Monday Night Jam: Banda Magda, “El Pescador”

The fisherman speaks with the moon
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From the DVD “Yerakina” released September 23rd, 2014 on GroundUP Music.

Buy It Here - bandamagdamusic.bandcamp.com

Written by José Barros

Produced by Magda Giannikou, Michael League & Fab Dupont

Magda Giannikou: voice & accordion
Ignacio Hernandez: nylon-string guitar
Mika Mimura: vibraphone
Jordan Perlson: drum set
Marcelo Woloski: percussion
Keita Ogawa: percussion
James Shipp: percussion
Haggai Cohen-Milo: upright bass
Michael League: baritone guitar
Mike Maher: flugelhorn
Matt Holman: flugelhorn
Matt McLaughlin: french horn
Bill Laurance: piano

String Section

primi: Maria Im, Emily Ondracek
secondi: Eylem Basaldi, Allyson Clark
viole: Lev Ljova Zhurbin, Dana Lyn
celli: Maria Jeffers, Colin Stokes

Background Vocals: Marcelo Woloski, Michael League, Bob Lanzetti, Justin Stanton

Special Guests: Gregorio Uribe, Juan Andrés Ospina, Nicolas Ospina on vocals

String and Horn arrangements by Magda Giannikou

English Translation

The current is rising
With a hammock and a fishing net
A canoe made of bahareque
Arrives at the beach

The fisherman… speaks with the moon
The fisherman… speaks with the sea
The fisherman…has no riches
He only has his fishing net

The moon happily awaits
With its magic splendor
The brave arrival
Of the content fisherman

The fisherman… speaks with the moon
The fisherman… speaks with the sea
The fisherman…has no riches
He only has his fishing net

The fishermen return
With their catch to sell
To the port of their sweethearts
Where they keep their love

And this cumbia that is called
“the happy fisherman”
I composed it in the morning
On a sunny morning

The fisherman… speaks with the moon
The fisherman… speaks with the sea
The fisherman…has no riches
He only has his fishing net

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231 comments
1
Lidane  Apr 11, 2016 • 8:50:14pm
2
Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 8:56:38pm

Flickr

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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 8:57:14pm

Flickr

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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 8:59:40pm

Flickr

5
worldknot  Apr 11, 2016 • 8:59:41pm

Someone I actually like posted this:

Is it next Tuesday yet?

6
retired cynic  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:08:18pm

re: #5 worldknot

OMG!

7
retired cynic  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:08:37pm

I do like this song, ‘tho! It’s beautiful!

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:21:52pm

re: #5 worldknot

Someone I actually like posted this:

Embedded Image

Is it next Tuesday yet?

Can you tell them I said they suck?

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retired cynic  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:23:11pm

re: #8 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

Can you tell them I said they suck?

I think you could all of us to that statement. That is one word that just makes me want to vomit.

10
jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:23:16pm

re: #5 worldknot

We haven’t even begun climbing the foothills of Misogyny Peak.

11
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:34:43pm

re: #10 jaunte

We haven’t even begun climbing the foothills of Misogyny Peak.

Yeah, that’s a winning strategy. Trump is what? 30/70 with women already? Let’s make it worse!

12
jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:38:10pm

re: #11 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’re not going to be able to resist. It’s going to be the ugliest campaign in history.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:49:24pm

re: #12 jaunte

They’re not going to be able to resist. It’s going to be the ugliest campaign in history.

Golly, I wish you were going to be wrong.

14
worldknot  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:51:03pm

What really sucks is we need my friend’s vote.

15
Jenner7  Apr 11, 2016 • 9:58:00pm

Ha!

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Kragar  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:01:57pm

1st Squad of Skitarii are done

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:03:51pm

I hear a lot of Bernie Bros saying Superdelegates should vote according to how their State votes. I just ran an Excel breakdown of this scenario and at this point if that were the case Clinton would still have a 126 lead in superdelegates, resulting in a 342 delegate lead overall. In other word even in fantasy land Sanders would be losing decisively.

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Jenner7  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:06:38pm

Posters on U. Campus vandalized with anti-Islam messages

SALT LAKE CITY — University of Utah police are investigating a possible hate crime after an act of on-campus vandalism. They’re looking for the person who defaced seven posters inside Orson Spencer Hall.

“It’s disheartening is what it is,” said U. spokeswoman Maria O’Mara. “It’s incredibly disappointing.”

On Friday, someone defaced seven posters advertising a lecture put on by the Hinckley Institute of Politics, O’Mara said.

“We had a visiting professor from Duke University who was here to speak about Islamophobia,” she said.

The event was meant to promote peace between America and Islamic nations, but the words scrawled over the top of the posters only promoted hate. The vandal wrote “Islam means death to the west” on several of the posters, and expletives on others.

ksl.com

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retired cynic  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:09:40pm

re: #18 Jenner7

On-campus, too. Disgusting.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:12:24pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

I hear a lot of Bernie Bros saying Superdelegates should vote according to how their State votes. I just ran an Excel breakdown of this scenario and at this point if that were the case Clinton would still have a 126 lead in superdelegates, resulting in a 342 delegate lead overall. In other word even in fantasy land Sanders would be losing decisively.

Thing is, superdelegates aren’t distributed proportionately to population or Democratic primary votes, so there’s no argument to be made that it would be more “representative” that way. It’s not a principled position, it’s grasping at straws.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:14:29pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

But what about district level?

I’m in MA-6th, Seth Moulton’s district. He’s committed to Hillary and he’s taking a lot of heat from voters in my town and surroundings.

I don’t know how the 6th did, but most towns on the North Shore went for Bernie. I suspect it wouldn’t make a difference, but I’ve heard the implicit talking point that congressional superdelegates should vote per their district’s results.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:14:42pm

Reminiscing with college buddies over Facebook just now. One of them found this blog about AP teletype machines. The black one at top was like the one we had in the college newspaper chattering away all day.

garyaleonard.blogspot.ae

If it went DING DING DING DING, something big was happening.

Eventually, the wire services switched to inkjet printers that buzzed. And now it’s as quiet as electrons moving through wires.

23
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:16:30pm

re: #22 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Newspaper people used to denigrate radio and TV coverage as “rip and read,” because the announcers would just recite the wire reports.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:17:11pm

re: #22 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ten dings on the teletype meant WWIII, judging from the many stories of radio stations reacting to false alerts in the 1970’s.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:19:05pm

re: #20 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

Thing is, superdelegates aren’t distributed proportionately to population or Democratic primary votes, so there’s no argument to be made that it would be more “representative” that way. It’s not a principled position, it’s grasping at straws.

And now his campaign is saying that Hillary has to get a majority of the total number of delegates without counting superdelegates at all or they’ll contest the convention. The duplicity on display is simply amazing. They’re all too happy to use the existence of superdelegates and add their number to the pledged delegates to get to a higher threshold, but then turn around and say the superdelegates don’t count at all when it comes to meeting that threshold.

Team Sanders now demanding Hillary win 59% of pledged delegates

Bernie Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, suggested this past week that Sanders will contest the Democratic nomination at the convention in July even if Hillary wins the nomination before that date.

Talking to CNN, Weaver suggested that if Hillary doesn’t win the nomination with pledged delegates alone — the delegates you win in the state primaries and caucuses — Sanders will effectively declare a civil war at the Democrat convention this summer.

When asked about this plan to disrupt the Democratic convention, Sanders refused to repudiate the idea.

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retired cynic  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:21:58pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

He is dancing on my last thread of goodwill.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:31:46pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

And now his campaign is saying that Hillary has to get a majority of the total number of delegates without counting superdelegates at all or they’ll contest the convention.

Uh, how? What mechanism allows him to contest this?

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:34:22pm

re: #27 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

And if the delegates-without-superdelegates count doesn’t favor him, he will go back to beating on the supers. Metaphorically. One hopes.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:38:37pm

re: #27 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

Uh, how? What mechanism allows him to contest this?

It’s simple, they simply never acknowledging defeat or suspend the campaign. Then they direct their delegates and supporters to raise as much hell as possible during the count at the national convention in July. Meantime their supporters still harass and stalk the superdelegates, urging them to undo the primary results, trying to convince everyone that Hillary will be indicted any minute, etc. In other words they still go down in the end, but they go down screaming.

The implicit threat is that in doing this they’ll be tacitly encouraging their supporters not to support Clinton in November.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:44:41pm

Something good out of North Carolina:

White House Science Fair 2016 to Feature Rocket Contest Team

themarsgeneration.org

Team Rock-it is from Durham, and they are high school seniors. They may also know something about DragonballZ.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:47:35pm

re: #22 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Reminiscing with college buddies over Facebook just now. One of them found this blog about AP teletype machines. The black one at top was like the one we had in the college newspaper chattering away all day.

garyaleonard.blogspot.ae

If it went DING DING DING DING, something big was happening.

Eventually, the wire services switched to inkjet dot-matrix printers that buzzed. And now it’s as quiet as electrons moving through wires.

Edited to correct memory lapse.

32
William Lewis  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:57:14pm

re: #30 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Something good out of North Carolina:

White House Science Fair 2016 to Feature Rocket Contest Team

themarsgeneration.org

Team Rock-it is from Durham, and they are high school seniors. They may also know something about DragonballZ.

And here I thought Team Rocket was always chasing Ash and Pikachu…

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:14:38pm

re: #32 William Lewis

“To protect the world from devastation…”

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William Lewis  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:24:08pm

re: #33 Sherlock Hound

“To protect the world from devastation…”

Heh.

My boy recently earned his DS in the facility that he’s in. First thing he fired up was Pokémon.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:24:08pm

OT: I’m watching the pilot ep. of The Critic right now, and there have been two trump jokes in the first nine minutes, both of which are still relevant.

This first aired in January, 1994.

It’s Amazing how long Trump has been a punch line.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:42:08pm

re: #5 worldknot

Ah! A rebus. Don’t see these much anymore, even though the gop chair,Prince Rebus, is named for them.

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Alyosha  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:14:41am
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Single-handed sailor  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:23:28am

re: #37 Alyosha

Canadians, eh?

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Timothy Watson  Apr 12, 2016 • 1:54:47am

Just got Dragon Age: Inquisition the other day, and I think I need someone to tell me to “leave the Hinterlands”.

(OCD is such a pain in the ass!)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 12, 2016 • 1:56:20am

re: #39 Timothy Watson

OCD is such a pain in the ass!

CDO is worse. (That’s like OCD, but in alphabetical order)

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Ming5000  Apr 12, 2016 • 2:06:22am

I wish the term “superdelegate” was not used. It would be better to say “Democratic Party officials”. Superdelegates are simply state party chairs, Democratic senators and representatives, governors, the President, etc. They get to decide who they support.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 12, 2016 • 2:16:33am

re: #41 Ming5000

I wish the term “superdelegate” was not used. It would be better to say “Democratic Party officials”. Superdelegates are simply state party chairs, Democratic senators and representatives, governors, the President, etc. They get to decide who they support.

Why, aren’t those guys just super?

I notice a lot of BS and DT supporters growing upset because they have been participating in a system they obviously do not understand, and are upset because they are disappointed by what they have come to find out about it.

This is basically what all of us go through when we hit puberty and find out that the world and the society we have been participating in is unfair and rigged against our interests.

I remember the major reforms the parties undertook in the 60’s and 70’s to move the candidate selection process out of the smoke filled rooms and into the public sphere.

But it is up to the parties to decide just how democratic and transparent they make their nominating process.

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Alyosha  Apr 12, 2016 • 2:29:02am

re: #41 Ming5000

I wish the term “superdelegate” was not used. It would be better to say “Democratic Party officials”. Superdelegates are simply state party chairs, Democratic senators and representatives, governors, the President, etc. They get to decide who they support.

If Clinton really wanted to needle Sanders she’d call them ‘superfluouses’.

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Ming5000  Apr 12, 2016 • 2:35:35am

re: #43 Alyosha

If Clinton really wanted to needle Sanders she’d call them ‘superfluouses’.

EEcks… my brain. it is too early here for this. Is this what you based ‘superflouses’ on?

French
Alternative forms
flouze
Etymology
From Algerian Arabic, Moroccan Arabic فلوس ‎(fluus, “money”).

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Alyosha  Apr 12, 2016 • 2:35:46am
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Alyosha  Apr 12, 2016 • 2:39:10am

re: #44 Ming5000

EEcks… my brain. it is too early here for this. Is this what you based ‘superflouses’ on?

French
Alternative forms
flouze
Etymology
From Algerian Arabic, Moroccan Arabic فلوس ‎(fluus, “money”).

Haha no, just on the fact that her superdelegates are not needed, superfluous.
I don’t think she needs to invite any attention to the fact that the party bosses are obviously bought ///

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Ming5000  Apr 12, 2016 • 2:41:10am

re: #46 Alyosha

haha… oh.. Sorry, I couldn’t track your accent. My mistake. :-)

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Alyosha  Apr 12, 2016 • 2:48:38am

re: #47 Ming5000

I’m mostly American while I’m here.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Apr 12, 2016 • 3:28:15am

Didn’t see this downstairs, but it looks like there are some new developments in that state securities fraud indictment that Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is under.

The Feds decided to join the fun and hit him with a federal indictment.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton Charged With Civil Securities Fraud

If convicted, he can expect up to 99 years in Club Fed.

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Ming5000  Apr 12, 2016 • 4:03:29am

re: #49 Bill and Opus for 2016!

That is going to sting

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Ming5000  Apr 12, 2016 • 4:11:29am

Read the HRC interview at the NY Daily News. Wow. She has a mastery of the subject matter unlike all the other candidates.

And she is wearing my favorite smock thing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 12, 2016 • 4:15:12am

Twitter users, have any of you come across Andie Pauly? She sounds like a female Chuck C. Johnson and she’s made the BBC news.

bbc.co.uk

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 12, 2016 • 4:18:10am

re: #51 Ming5000

Read the HRC interview at the NY Daily News. Wow. She has a mastery of the subject matter unlike all the other candidates.

And she is wearing my favorite smock thing.

There is no other candidate who has the experience and knowledge that HRC has. None. Maybe Sanders has held office longer, but that’s not the same as having experience in matters necessary to be a president.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 12, 2016 • 4:22:21am

re: #51 Ming5000

Read the HRC interview at the NY Daily News. Wow. She has a mastery of the subject matter unlike all the other candidates.

And she is wearing my favorite smock thing.

There is no question of that. Still, I would have preferred someone other than HRC just because of the baggage she brings along and the massive misogyny she will provoke. And we can count on the GOP initiating impeachment hearings the moment she is nominated…

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Ming5000  Apr 12, 2016 • 4:28:36am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We should not be intimidated by the right wing. No matter who or what issue is presented to the right wing they will tear it apart. It won’t matter whether it is HRC or Bernie or anyone. The dial on the right wing noise machine will be on 11 for everyone.

Also, HRC’s closet has been searched for skeletons more than anybody’s.

Just re-watched The Hudsucker Proxy:

~Fight on, fight on, dear old Muncie/Fight on, hoist the gold and blue/You’ll be tattered, torn, and hurtin’/Once the Munce is done with you/Go… Eagles!~

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 12, 2016 • 4:30:22am

re: #55 Ming5000

We should not be intimidated by the right wing. No matter who or what issue is presented to the right wing they will tear it apart. It won’t matter whether it is HRC or Bernie or anyone. The dial on the right wing noise machine will be on 11 for everyone.

Also, HRC’s closet has been searched for skeletons more than anybody’s.

Just re-watched The Hudsucker Proxy:

Not intimidation, just disgust at what is coming at us. I will nonetheless support HRC in the election because I think she is the best candidate among those running.

But I have a feeling that things will get so ugly that I will have to give up my favorite pastime of following politics and take up something less repulsive like picking maggots out of rotting corpses…

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 4:48:40am

Oh great, so now a Hillary supporter is sending me Ted Cruz birther shit.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 12, 2016 • 5:13:08am

re: #51 Ming5000

Read the HRC interview at the NY Daily News. Wow. She has a mastery of the subject matter unlike all the other candidates.

And she is wearing my favorite smock thing.

Not surprised. Secretary Clinton is brilliant, even if flawed. Rooting for her.

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2016 • 5:30:05am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is no question of that. Still, I would have preferred someone other than HRC just because of the baggage she brings along and the massive misogyny she will provoke. And we can count on the GOP initiating impeachment hearings the moment she is nominated…

Uhm…

Baggage of being attacked by tighty-righties for decades? And misogyny because, what, that’s her fault?

Sigh.

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dharmamark  Apr 12, 2016 • 5:31:48am

re: #58 Patricia Kayden

Looks like a Star Fleet dress uniform.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 5:43:38am

Hillary has a hard time finding flattering outfits because she is short and (dare I say it) kind of chubby, like a typical 60something grandma.

If she becomes POTUS I am getting a Hillary wig.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 5:50:01am

re: #52 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Twitter users, have any of you come across Andie Pauly? She sounds like a female Chuck C. Johnson and she’s made the BBC news.

bbc.co.uk

I’ve known of her for quite some time. She is a horrible person and I can’t believe twitter hasn’t banned her.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:21:30am

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary has a hard time finding flattering outfits because she is short and (dare I say it) kind of chubby, like a typical 60something grandma.

If she becomes POTUS I am getting a Hillary wig.

I think she should just have suits custom made for her. Maybe a tan one as well.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:29:34am

re: #63 Belafon

Also, she should make sure her chair is at the right height to put her feet up on the president’s desk.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:31:33am

re: #64 Belafon

Also, she should make sure her chair is at the right height to put her feet up on the president’s desk.

Yeah, but no one will be able to troll the right wing like Obama. He has that one down pat.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:33:40am

Hello.

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Great White Snark  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:35:56am

re: #66 Not a Sparkly Vampire

What’s up?

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:38:23am

re: #16 Kragar

Have you seen the new Warhammer game coming out? Total War: Warhammer

Because of this I am seriously thinking of installing a Windows partition on my Mac.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:44:32am

re: #39 Timothy Watson

I bought Half Life 2 a couple of weeks ago. Partly because it is a classic and I didn’t realize it was available for the Mac. Partly because it was cheap.

Stopped playing already. There were a couple of things that were impressive and interesting but mostly it was: try to solve complex puzzles while things are trying to kill you. Also far too much: walk down this narrow passage while things try to kill you.

It got dull very fast.

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:48:42am

re: #67 Great White Snark

What’s up?

Wassup girlfriend

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:49:31am

re: #67 Great White Snark

What’s up?

Rain and lots of sirens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:53:41am

bwahahahaaa

GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump could foresee giving Sen. Marco Rubio a position in his administration, and also mentioned the Florida senator, Scott Walker and John Kasich when asked about his potential running mate.
“There are people I have in mind in terms of vice president. I just haven’t told anybody names,” Trump told USA Today columnist Kirsten Powers for a story published Monday afternoon.

“I do like Marco. I do like Kasich. … I like Walker actually in a lot of ways. I hit him very hard, … but I’ve always liked him. There are people I like, but I don’t think they like me because I have hit them hard,” Trump said.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:55:44am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa

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“I do like Marco. I do like Kasich. … I like Walker actually in a lot of ways. I hit him very hard, … but I’ve always liked him. There are people I like, but I don’t think they like me because I have hit them hard,” Trump said.

Can Trump ever speak without repeating himself? Can he speak without saying every sentence twice? Does he have to repeat everything?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:59:22am

re: #58 Patricia Kayden

Not surprised. Secretary Clinton is brilliant, even if flawed. Rooting for her.

Yeah, I think HRC is really sharp. And practical.

The downside, to the extent that I see one, is I can’t really say what I think her core beliefs are. I mean obviously she’s generally liberal on most domestic policy issues, a little hawkish on FP, both of which are fine. But she supported the Iraq War and now says that was a mistake. But why was it a mistake? Faulty information? Excessive zeal to remake the world in the aftermath of 9/11? Bad post-war planning?

Sometimes she seems a little too eager to be what she thinks people want her to be. But that’s just an impression of mine.

I wouldn’t have minded supporting my home-state gov, O’Malley, if he’d stayed in the race. But I’ll likely vote for HRC in the MD primary (25th I think).

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Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:59:29am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

When your target audience is really stupid you have to repeat yourself to make sure they get it. On the other hand it could just be that Trump himself is really stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 6:59:34am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

Can Trump ever speak without repeating himself? Can he speak without saying every sentence twice? Does he have to repeat everything?

No, he can’t.
Even when he denies that he does it, he has to repeat the denial at least three times in row.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:00:31am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, he can’t.
Even when he denies that he does it, he has to repeat the denial at least three times in row.

It’s some kind of con artist patter. He talks like a con man. Because he is a con man.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:02:54am

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve known of her for quite some time. She is a horrible person and I can’t believe twitter hasn’t banned her.

Just the samples of her tweets at the BBC website curled my toenails. How is it people on the extreme right wing turn out to be such hateful pieces of shit?

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:05:45am

re: #68 Romantic Heretic

Because of this I am seriously thinking of installing a Windows partition on my Mac.

Noooooooo,,,,,,,,,

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:07:22am

re: #79 Le Lapin Tueur

Noooooooo,,,,,,,,,

[Embedded content]

Remove update KB3035583 and that goes away.
:P

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:07:43am

re: #74 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

From what she’s done over the years, she cares deeply about those less fortunate. In the 70s, she did work uncovering continued racism in the south (impersonating a mom to find white only academies being set up). While Bill was president, she fought for health care. In the Senate, she created SNAP.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:08:09am

re: #59 MsJ

Uhm…

Baggage of being attacked by tighty-righties for decades? And misogyny because, what, that’s her fault?

Sigh.

It’s not really a question of fault, it’s a question of pragmatism. I don’t necessarily agree with the argument presented, but the fact that her negatives aree the result of events in which she is the victim doesn’t really prevent them from being negatives, does it?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:11:32am

re: #82 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

It’s not really a question of fault, it’s a question of pragmatism. I don’t necessarily agree with the argument presented, but the fact that her negatives aree the result of events in which she is the victim doesn’t really prevent them from being negatives, does it?

They’re really only negatives if you believe the RW bullshit that caused said negatives.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:18:32am

re: #83 Not a Sparkly Vampire

They’re really only negatives if you believe the RW bullshit that caused said negatives.

Because the truth always wins out? Please. You don’t have to get people to really believe any of it is true, you just have to repeat it often and long enough that a sufficient number of people form negative associations. The fact that it is neither fair not right does not mean that it can’t be effective.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:20:37am

re: #84 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

Because the truth always wins out? Please. You don’t have to get people to really believe any of it is true, you just have to repeat it often and long enough that a sufficient number of people form negative associations. The fact that it is neither fair not right does not mean that it can’t be effective.

That said you can’t let that bullshit dictate what candidates we run.

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Weaselone  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:25:10am

re: #82 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

It’s not really a question of fault, it’s a question of pragmatism. I don’t necessarily agree with the argument presented, but the fact that her negatives aree the result of events in which she is the victim doesn’t really prevent them from being negatives, does it?

I’m not sure where you are getting pragmatism from. Regardless of who is the nominee the Republicans will open up on them with the full arsenal of BS and quickly drive up their negatives and reduce their positives to a bedrock level of support. Someone like Obama can hold the line at around fifty percent, but almost anyone else is probably going to end up in the same place as Clinton prior to the election. Fortunately, I expect her to rebound a bit once the nominations are secured in both parties and she gets compared with whatever slithers out of the Republican convention.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:25:42am

re: #85 Not a Sparkly Vampire

That said you can’t let that bullshit dictate what candidates we run.

I quite agree. If you reward them for doing it, they’ll know it works. No reason not to keep doing it at that point, right?

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:26:55am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is no question of that. Still, I would have preferred someone other than HRC just because of the baggage she brings along and the massive misogyny she will provoke. And we can count on the GOP initiating impeachment hearings the moment she is nominated…

In regards to the massive misogyny she will bring, I say, and I’ve said it before: BRING IT ON! It’s about fucking time this country dealt with it, or at least made it visible. Not only will this white male support her because of it, it will make me support her more.

What other people attach to a person should never cloud your view of her or prevent supporting their ambitions. I want those who have benefited from attacking a woman for being a woman, or a black man for being a black man, to suffer. If I have to suffer a bit in order to deal with them coming to terms with the consequences of their actions, I’ll deal with it.

To be a bit more concrete, we could have had that attitude with Obama (think of the baggage a black man brings to office). And, if we’d managed to find a white guy to run for office as a Democrat, we could have gotten a few more bills passed. But then we wouldn’t have had Obama in office, and the presidency and the country has benefited greatly. I also don’t think gay marriage wouldn’t have changed as quickly.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:30:34am

re: #86 Weaselone

I’m not sure where you are getting pragmatism from. Regardless of who is the nominee the Republicans will open up on them with the full arsenal of BS and quickly drive up their negatives and reduce their positives to a bedrock level of support.

I understand entirely, I was just objecting to the idea that arguing otherwise means you think it’s Clinton’s fault or something. The pragmatism is in understanding that how a negative came to be doesn’t really matter. If it’s there, it’s there, and your plans have to take it into account.

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Jenner7  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:36:57am

re: #79 Le Lapin Tueur

Can I steal that? That’s hilarious.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:42:14am

re: #60 dharmamark

Looks like a Star Fleet dress uniform.

It’s a Mao jacket.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:47:04am

welp, guessing that takes care of Donald considering Kasich for VP…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:48:05am
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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:49:56am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

I will buy into a Revolution when people like Bevin (and Abbott) stop winning midterm elections.

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makeitstop  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:52:40am

re: #22 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Reminiscing with college buddies over Facebook just now. One of them found this blog about AP teletype machines. The black one at top was like the one we had in the college newspaper chattering away all day.

garyaleonard.blogspot.ae

If it went DING DING DING DING, something big was happening.

Eventually, the wire services switched to inkjet printers that buzzed. And now it’s as quiet as electrons moving through wires.

We had one of those in the production room at my college radio station. Every Morning, our news editor would come in and scoop up the printout that had come in overnight and put together the morning newscasts. The good old days.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2016 • 7:54:12am

re: #94 Belafon

I will buy into a Revolution when people like Bevin (and Abbott) stop winning midterm elections.

In a nutshell…….. I’m keeping that and holding it close.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:06:42am

Went to put on my bog boots to go out to the barn.
Found that the cats left a present left inside one.

dead mouse…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:07:03am

re: #94 Belafon

I will buy into a Revolution when people like Bevin (and Abbott) stop winning midterm elections.

That’s why we have to kill the banks.

//

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:07:33am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Went to put on my bog boots to go out to the barn.
Found that the cats left a present left inside one.

dead mouse…

That’s a token of love.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:09:24am

Well, here’s some cheery news: stalkers can track you down online by using an image of your face.

bbc.com

Just one more reason why no one should have a public Facebook, or any other social media, account.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:09:50am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:11:17am

So, if we do break up the banks, what is that going to do to my retirement investments, savings accounts, checking, etc.? Haven’t heard that answered yet.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:13:27am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Went to put on my bog boots to go out to the barn.
Found that the cats left a present left inside one.

dead mouse…

Adds flavor..

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:14:42am

Low information voters indeed….

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Great White Snark  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:15:26am

re: #102 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

So, if we do break up the banks, what is that going to do to my retirement investments, savings accounts, checking, etc.? Haven’t heard that answered yet.

The presumed outcome is the smaller banks each simply do the same stuff buy answer to local bosses.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:15:38am

re: #102 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

So, if we do break up the banks, what is that going to do to my retirement investments, savings accounts, checking, etc.? Haven’t heard that answered yet.

If you have an investment account (like stocks, etc.), it would probably end up in a different office than the checking, savings and loan accounts. That’s the way it was back in the day before the feds loosened bank regulations to allow banks to compete with investment firms. Really, it’s not going to affect you unless you have accounts in one of the too big to fail banks. Regional banks, like USBank or 5/3 Bank, will just keep doing what they do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:15:53am

re: #102 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

OT, but did you see this yesterday?
kentucky.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:16:39am

re: #104 Dr. Matt

Nutural? Sounds like an MLM brand name.

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:17:56am

re: #82 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

It’s not really a question of fault, it’s a question of pragmatism. I don’t necessarily agree with the argument presented, but the fact that her negatives aree the result of events in which she is the victim doesn’t really prevent them from being negatives, does it?

I see that as nothing but rewarding bad right wing behavior. And it is a win for the right.

This is going to happen to every single democrat at every stage. If you watch Fox, literally (and I mean Literally in the way it was once defined, as fact) every single democrat is referenced to as being “The Most Liberal [fill in the blank] Ever” election after election. Everytime I would see that, I would immediately think that all RWNJ’s have ADD because is it really that difficult to remember the last election with whomever was running being The Most Liberal Ever?

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Ming5000  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:21:01am

re: #109 MsJ

I literally cannot watch Fox. I just cannot last more than maybe a minute before I get so frustrated/angry.
So, thanks to those who do watch and provide research to the rest of us!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:23:31am

I apologize for the DKos link, but it’s a good story:

Actions have consequences.

Posted by Daily Kos on Tuesday, April 12, 2016

After Portland Mayor Charlie Hales announced he refuses to travel to Mississippi next month to commission the USS Portland over the state’s anti-gay laws, the Navy has announced the commissioning will take place in Portland

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:25:18am

re: #111 Dr. Matt

I apologize for the DKos link, but it’s a good story:

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Maine or Oregon?

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:27:02am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

Maine or Oregon?

Oregon

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:27:40am

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

OT, but did you see this yesterday?
kentucky.com

I met with the schools attorney yesterday. Been just a crazy week. I know the truth, and as this article states, the school Presidents says what actually occurred, and how it has been portrayed are not the same. I am severely limited in what I could say, until all pending litigation is settled. I’ve had to mute and unfollow some people through social media, just to make sure nothing gets to people who don’t need to hear it. The hope is that things are settled soon. But the school is a place that I believe in, even though it is not perfect; it is still a good place to be. I’ve got to be in on another meeting later this week, and hopefully will get to a place to share some more on the issue.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:28:08am

re: #111 Dr. Matt

I apologize for the DKos link, but it’s a good story:

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Comment:

But who’s going to pay for this???

I will help foot the bill, gladly…

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:28:20am

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

If you have an investment account (like stocks, etc.), it would probably end up in a different office than the checking, savings and loan accounts. That’s the way it was back in the day before the feds loosened bank regulations to allow banks to compete with investment firms. Really, it’s not going to affect you unless you have accounts in one of the too big to fail banks. Regional banks, like USBank or 5/3 Bank, will just keep doing what they do.

FWIW, 5/3 is the worst freaking bank I have ever dealt with. After my credit card number was stolen they sucked to deal with. I closed out my business account with 5/3 and moved everything over to Chase (where my personal accounts are and who take fraud and all that shit quite seriously). 5/3 is such small potatoes they couldn’t manage dealing with a small time fraud. God help anyone who has any real money there.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:29:35am

re: #105 Great White Snark

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yep it all makes sense. Just the harping on that issue by Sen. Sanders seems so much “Ready, Fire, Aim” to me.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:29:50am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Went to put on my bog boots to go out to the barn.
Found that the cats left a present left inside one.

dead mouse…

Heh, mine has been stalking a mouse for about a week now, so I guess I’m gonna get a present sooner or later (it better not be left in my shoe). I couldn’t figure out why she kept suddenly snapping to attention in the middle of the night, then running to the other room. Over the weekend I was in the kitchen and saw a dark spot go shooting along the baseboard, then I realized why she’d been acting that way.

I think the damned thing has actually been in my bedroom because last night & the night before she was totally in assassin mode over something behind the bedside table that I could neither see nor hear.

Stupid mouse is suicidal. If Layla was still here it would be dead by now. She was really good at catching mice. Between her & the younger one they never had a chance, especially since they both knew the word “mouse”—say it and they’d come tearing into the room on high alert.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:30:46am

re: #115 Dave In Austin

Comment:

I will help foot the bill, gladly…

Ditto. Hell, I’ll dig out my old dungarees and work for free during the cruise to OR.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:31:29am

re: #116 MsJ

FWIW, 5/3 is the worst freaking bank I have ever dealt with. After my credit card number was stolen they sucked to deal with. I closed out my business account with 5/3 and moved everything over to Chase (where my personal accounts are and who take fraud and all that shit quite seriously). 5/3 is such small potatoes they couldn’t manage dealing with a small time fraud. God help anyone who has any real money there.

My ex had troubles with 5/3rds Bank too. I was with a credit union and until I moved to China, loved them. But the CU closed my account due to “inactivity”. The only warnings they had sent were to my snail mail address in the USA. They considered email too much of a security risk.

Anyway, I use an online bank now — well, two — and that’s just fine.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:33:05am

re: #115 Dave In Austin

Comment:

I will help foot the bill, gladly…

Progress isn’t always free, or it would have been done already.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:33:33am

re: #90 Jenner7

Can I steal that? That’s hilarious.

Of course. Enjoy.

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sagehen  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:33:43am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But it is up to the parties to decide just how democratic and transparent they make their nominating process.

They’re both totally transparent. None of these rules are new, none of them are secret.

(that’s how Obama won 2008 — apparently he was the first candidate to take small state caucuses seriously, he organized *everywhere*, that’s how he ran up the huge delegate margins to beat someone who’d concentrated on big-state primaries).

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Ubiq  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:40:30am

Today in ‘For fuck’s sake news”, the Young Turks organized a protest that has drawn a whopping 3000 people, and my Facebook feed is full of people wondering why this protest that is smaller than the attendance of a AAA baseball game isn’t getting more media coverage. Um, even though it is on both CNN and NBC.

Oh, and there are mass arrests! According to Reddit, that’s because TYT purposefully didn’t fill out the proper permits, and arranged the event with the police with the goal of having the most arrests ever at the capital building. Which they succeeded at doing, and has predictably resulted in in my facebook feed being full of people going “Why were they arrested? Isn’t this America?”

In related news, I’m pretty much done with The Young Turks and anyone who holds them in any sort of regard.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:41:27am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY (#EQUALPAYDAY)==>

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:41:37am

re: #124 Ubiq

Today in ‘For fuck’s sake news”, the Young Turks organized a protest that has drawn a whopping 3000 people, and my Facebook feed is full of people wondering why this protest that is smaller than the attendance of a AAA baseball game isn’t getting more media coverage. Um, even though it is on both CNN and NBC.

Oh, and there are mass arrests! According to Reddit, that’s because TYT purposefully didn’t fill out the proper permits, and arranged the event with the police with the goal of having the most arrests ever at the capital building. Which they succeeded at doing, and has predictably resulted in in my facebook feed being full of people going “Why were they arrested? Isn’t this America?”

In related news, I’m pretty much done with The Young Turks and anyone who holds them in any sort of regard.

Yeah, they were pretty happy with all the arrests. That proved….something.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:42:10am

That meme begs the question, “Why don’t men with children want to stay home with them?”

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Great White Snark  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:43:48am

re: #118 CuriousLurker

Heh, mine has been stalking a mouse for about a week now, so I guess I’m gonna get a present sooner or later (it better not be left in my shoe). I couldn’t figure out why she kept suddenly snapping to attention in the middle of the night, then running to the other room. Over the weekend I was in the kitchen and saw a dark spot go shooting along the baseboard, then I realized why she’d been acting that way.

I think the damned thing has actually been in my bedroom because last night & the night before she was totally in assassin mode over something behind the bedside table that I could neither see nor hear.

Stupid mouse is suicidal. If Layla was still here it would be dead by now. She was really good at catching mice. Between her & the younger one they never had a chance, especially since they both knew the word “mouse”—say it and they’d come tearing into the room on high alert.

Assassin Mode, hahaha

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:43:56am

re: #124 Ubiq

What are they protesting?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:43:57am

The Clinton Presidential Library today released 464 pages of documents related to Donald Trump and the Trump Organization following a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.

Donald Trump Featured in New Batch of Bill Clinton Documents

The trove of documents includes Trump’s invitations to White House events, a photo of Bill Clinton and Trump at Trump Towers in New York, and an autographed copy of Trump’s book “The Art of the Deal.”

Also included among the documents are emails and “briefing materials for press events that include media questions” about when Trump was considering a presidential run in 2000.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:44:46am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

Most mothers don’t wish to work equally outside the home.

The Koch-bot generator goofed this one up.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:44:51am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY (#EQUALPAYDAY)==>

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So the opinions of only moms and dads count?

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Ubiq  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:45:40am

re: #129 Dr. Matt

They were protesting the corrupting influence of money in politics, but in actuality it was by most reports a de facto Bernie rally.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:46:56am

LOL!!

Facebook Video

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:47:47am

re: #133 Ubiq

They were protesting the corrupting influence of money in politics, but in actuality it was by most reports a de facto Bernie rally.

Cenk is the living example of a dudebro. Next week they are going to protest in front of the White House because they haven’t got the pony Obama promised them.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:48:14am

re: #133 Ubiq

They were protesting the corrupting influence of money in politics, but in actuality it was by most reports a de facto Bernie rally.

The substance of the protest kind of got lost in the “HEY LOOK AT ALL OUR ARRESTS” and “WHY ISNT CNN MEDIA COVERING THIS?”

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:48:42am

re: #134 Dave In Austin

LOL!!

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:49:06am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY (#EQUALPAYDAY)==>

I bet men without children are tired of making the same money as dads as well. On my grumpier days, I get tired of being treated the same as someone who doesn’t go home and work on his software engineering skills the way I do.

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sagehen  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:52:57am

re: #102 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

So, if we do break up the banks, what is that going to do to my retirement investments, savings accounts, checking, etc.? Haven’t heard that answered yet.

Your retirement investments will be at an investment bank that does investment banking. Your savings and checking accounts will be at a bank that does traditional banking, and your money is insured by the FDIC. If the investment bank makes risky choices that destroy their business, they won’t drag the regular bank down with them and force FDIC to cover their losses.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:53:01am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

What does that mean? Oh, yeah. Nothing. Sheesh. Talk about stupid limiters.

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Jenner7  Apr 12, 2016 • 8:56:00am

re: #124 Ubiq

Yep. My sister posted something about it on FB. I said, “What are they protesting? What legislation do they want passed? What legislators are they going to pressure??”

Just getting arrested won’t change anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:02:58am

re: #135 Dr. Matt

Cenk is the living example of a dudebro. Next week they are going to protest in front of the White House because they haven’t got the pony Obama promised them.

I’m still shaking my head about how he pissed off an airline so much about how his flight was delayed and they wouldn’t let him on the plane when it was ready to board.
What a victim…

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Lidane  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:03:38am

Heh.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:04:37am

re: #141 Jenner7

Yep. My sister posted something about it on FB. I said, “What are they protesting? What legislation do they want passed? What legislators are they going to pressure??”

Just getting arrested won’t change anything.

WE WANT AN END TO ALL MONEY IN POLITICS AND DEMOCRACY!!!!!

/

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:04:41am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY (#EQUALPAYDAY)==>

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:06:03am

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary has a hard time finding flattering outfits because she is short and (dare I say it) kind of chubby, like a typical 60something grandma.

If she becomes POTUS I am getting a Hillary wig.

It’s kind of strange, because in person she does not look nearly as, shall I say, thick as she appears on TV and in pictures. I think part of it is because she tends to choose boxy jacket styles.

Note—not that it matters one iota—at least her head is not thick, like certain (all) of the GOP candidates.

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:08:03am
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retired cynic  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:11:44am

re: #146 BeachDem

It’s kind of strange, because in person she does not look nearly as, shall I say, thick as she appears on TV and in pictures. I think part of it is because she tends to choose boxy jacket styles.

Note—not that it matters one iota—at least her head is not thick, like certain (all) of the GOP candidates.

Cameras add weight. Which is why I won’t have any photos taken! I’m fat enough without it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:15:57am

And here is Baby Whiplash complaining that Hillary is an “Anti-White Racist”==>
Then he cries when he gets anti-Semitic tweets from his target audience

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:20:30am

re: #148 retired cynic

Cameras add weight. Which is why I won’t have any photos taken! I’m fat enough without it.

They also add age—the person I see when I look in the mirror bears little resemblance to the old hag that appears in photographs.

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:31:41am

I thought the guys around here were different [I haven’t met any women agents].

[…]More than 20 elected officials, education groups and community leaders in El Paso and southern New Mexico are supporting the move by some members of Local 1929 to reject the union’s national endorsement of Trump and take a neutral stance in the presidential election. The issue will be raised at Local 1929’s regularly scheduled membership meeting on Tuesday.

[…]

“Very often decisions are made about the U.S.-Mexico border in Washington that don’t reflect the values and experience of the people who actually live here,” [Beto] O’Rourke said. “I just want to make sure that the outstanding agents in El Paso, many of them originally from this binational community, have a chance to make their voices heard on issues that they know better than anyone else.”

[…]

Susie Byrd, a member of the El Paso Independent School District board and a former member of the El Paso City Council, said she was approached by Border Patrol agents concerned about the Trump endorsement.

She helped organize support for the agents, who wanted to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation.

“They are not asking for a particular endorsement,” Byrd said. “They just feel this particular endorsement is very harmful to their work here in El Paso.

“The fact that Trump has denigrated immigrants and essentially made them the enemy and called them rapists and called them murderers really gets in the way of a law enforcement relationship with that group,” Byrd said.

[…]

Those two people whose quotes I pulled wrote a book together:

Dealing Death and Drugs: The Big Business of Dope in the U.S. and Mexico

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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:39:47am

re: #145 MsJ

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And as Sleuth mentioned, people without kids (moi) don’t count.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:40:33am

But, but, but, but Bernie flies coach! He’s one of us!!!!

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:43:07am

re: #152 Stanley Sea

And as Sleuth mentioned, people without kids (moi) don’t count.

Me, too. But heck, we’re women so we don’t really matter anyway.

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451_Montag  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:44:56am

re: #153 Dr. Matt

But, but, but, but Bernie flies coach! He’s one of us!!!!

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But he’s not a multi-millionaire!!!!11!! So is all ok,. And the houses aren’t big. So obviously Hillary is evil.

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Great White Snark  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:45:21am

re: #153 Dr. Matt

Did he take a vow of poverty we missed? Go ahead stack him up with the other Senators that might have said some things about inequality.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:46:19am

re: #153 Dr. Matt

But, but, but, but Bernie flies coach! He’s one of us!!!!

You’re not doing it right. It’s: Oh. Well. How much money the person has doesn’t matter anyway. Why can’t you just talk about the issues.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:50:05am

re: #153 Dr. Matt

But, but, but, but Bernie flies coach! He’s one of us!!!!

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Wait, what? But I saw a wingnut meme that says his net worth is $110,000 and he never had a full time job until he was 40 years old!

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Great White Snark  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:50:37am

The salient thing worse this time around is that the stupidities espoused by the candidates are far exceeded by the fans.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:51:56am

re: #153 Dr. Matt

But, but, but, but Bernie flies coach! He’s one of us!!!!

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After holding a 6 figure a year job for about 20 or so years, they better be worth a million- or else I’d have even bigger problems with them.

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Jenner7  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:52:16am

I have no clue what I’m talking about. I guess those meetings with LBJ were to talk about their favorite Mexican joint.

//

As Oliver points out:

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451_Montag  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:55:42am

re: #156 Great White Snark

Did he take a vow of poverty we missed? Go ahead stack him up with the other Senators that might have said some things about inequality.

I’m not sure anyone begrudges his success and comfort. The fact is he is better off than most, good for him.

It is simply the hypocrisy of his positions. Owning 3 houses is not a bad thing. Being a millionaire isn’t a bad thing. The problem lies with him castigating others for the same thing. The problem is the image he portrays as a slightly scruufy old socialist firebrand.

I agree that income is not even and should be spread out a bit. All boats should rise, but you must see that there is a disconnect between the image and the rhetoric. This is what is turning off natural Bernie supporters such as myself.

The question is on his wages should he be a millionaire with 3 houses, or has his income been supplemented? Does he not spend as much on living costs due to his position?

By all means let him be a firebrand, but when he seems to have feet of clay, perhaps he can tone down the beatings he lays on others when he gains the same benefits.

To me saying there is nothing wrong because he is less rich than others in his position misses the entire truth of Bernie’s campaign, rings hollow.

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2016 • 9:58:34am

BEES!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:03:17am

re: #156 Great White Snark

Did he take a vow of poverty we missed? Go ahead stack him up with the other Senators that might have said some things about inequality.

Who implied that he said he took a “vow of poverty”? I have no problem with anyone being wealthy. I always thought it was stupid when rwnjs lost their shit because Al Gore was wealthy. But, Bernie sheeple dudebros buy up his unrealistic socialist utopia bullshit while he lives as a millionaire with 3 homes. It’s easy to be a socialist when you’re a millionaire.

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Kragar  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:06:55am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:08:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:10:40am

So, to overcome the trauma of finding a dead mouse in my boot this morning, I just went on a small shopping spree at Amazon.
Got some water colors, Pentel pens, blank stationery, sealing wax and sealing stamps, and other artsy stuffs.
And, just so I could say I got something practical: some replacement vacuum cleaner bags.

Small Amazon commission winging its way to LGF HQ.

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:14:07am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, to overcome the trauma of finding a dead mouse in my boot this morning, I just went on a small shopping spree at Amazon.

[…]

Small Amazon commission winging its way to LGF HQ.

Couldn’t blame Charles if he starts placing the mice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:26:17am
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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:28:27am

re: #165 Kragar

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My friend’s six year old granddaughter said just the other day that she is shocked that there haven’t been any “girl” presidents and she thinks it’s about time for a girl to win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:31:40am

Deutsche Bank (XETRA: dbkgn.de / NYSE: DB) announced today that it will freeze plans to create 250 new jobs at its Cary, North Carolina, location.

The Bank’s decision is due to state-wide legislation enacted in North Carolina on March 23 that invalidated existing protections of the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender fellow citizens in some municipalities and prevents municipalities from adopting such protections in the future.

John Cryan, Co-Chief Executive Officer of Deutsche Bank, said: “We take our commitment to building inclusive work environments seriously. We’re proud of our operations and employees in Cary and regret that as a result of this legislation we are unwilling to include North Carolina in our US expansion plans for now. We very much hope that we can re-visit our plans to grow this location in the near future.”

Deutsche Bank currently employs approximately 900 people at its software application development center in Cary and is committed to sustaining that existing presence.

Deutsche Bank is where I have my retirement investments.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:31:53am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, to overcome the trauma of finding a dead mouse in my boot this morning, I just went on a small shopping spree at Amazon.
Got some water colors, Pentel pens, blank stationery, sealing wax and sealing stamps, and other artsy stuffs.
And, just so I could say I got something practical: some replacement vacuum cleaner bags.

Small Amazon commission winging its way to LGF HQ.

totally reasonable.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:34:47am

re: #172 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

totally reasonable.

You know what’s worse than a dead mouse in your boot.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:35:20am

re: #173 Decatur Deb

You know what’s worse than a dead mouse in your boot.

Live one?

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:40:58am

“…The ethos of the prosperity gospel is the key to Trump’s power to persuade people that his victories can be theirs — that the greatness of Trump is the means of making America great again. All that is ugly within it, the violence and the hate, is part of an expression of the sense of lack Trumpism both feeds and assuages. It is sorrow, a mourning of the chance that never was or won’t be. The left responds with redemption, the promise of justice; Trump sells revenge, “hitting back 10 times as hard.” But that’s just the drama, the conflict before the resolution, the sales pitch for which Trumpism is the solution: greatness, the truths all prosperity-gospel preachers embody for those who believe.

Trump knows his followers want what he has, and that what Trump has, that for which the plane and the gold and all the “green,” too, are merely symbols, is freedom from want. Trump does not want; Trump is. “Is Trump strong?” Trump asks rhetorically. Those constrained by ordinary manners hear in the question evidence of insecurity. His admirers hear rejoicing. Why not take pleasure in power? It feels good to be strong. It is, for the believers, those whom Trump calls “my people,” a blessing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:48:22am

jeebus

“With Bernie Sanders’ durability exciting progressives at their potential to shape the Democratic race, a coalition of groups — many of them backers of the Vermont senator — are launching a preemptive strike against Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro, aimed at disqualifying him from consideration to be Hillary Clinton’s running mate,” read the lead of the story.

“Tuesday morning, the group will be emailing petitions to several million people attacking Castro on the relatively obscure issue of his handling of mortgage sales and launching a website with an unsubtle address: dontsellourhomestowallstreet.org.

“They’re just as open with their political aims: to publicly discredit Castro as a progressive, latching onto the mortgage issue to seed enough suspicion to keep him off Clinton’s short list.”

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:51:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:52:18am
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Jenner7  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:52:23am

Facebook Post

*expletives*

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:53:14am

OK, not all the New Mexico BP agents are different:

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:53:28am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

Yeah, that’s the way to get Bernie as VP.

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Jenner7  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:54:49am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

Should read “progressive”.

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MsJ  Apr 12, 2016 • 10:58:14am

re: #181 Belafon

Yeah, that’s the way to get Bernie as VP.

I don’t even want Bernie as an animal control officer let alone in a cabinet position or as Veep.

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Great White Snark  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:07:17am

Digital drone gets image of LGF’s internet location.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:08:45am

Just a vid of Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden flying Ed Force One.

Iron Maiden - Ed Force One take off from Fortaleza

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Kragar  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:09:43am

re: #185 Dr Lizardo

Why has Bruce not been knighted yet?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:10:30am

re: #186 Kragar

Why has Bruce not been knighted yet?

That’s a damned good question, actually.

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Kragar  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:18:05am

re: #187 Dr Lizardo

Setting aside his music career, just look at what he’s done as a pilot. He flew into Lebanon during the Israeli-Hezballah fighting to evacuate civilians. He flew into Egypt to fly stranded Brits out when a different Brit airlines collapsed. I know on several occasions, he volunteered to be the pilot to bring home British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Give the guy a knighthood already

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danarchy  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:20:50am

re: #162 451_Montag

The question is on his wages should he be a millionaire with 3 houses, or has his income been supplemented? Does he not spend as much on living costs due to his position?

It isn’t just his salary though, his wife was the president of a college for the better part of a decade and although I don’t know what her salary was, even the president of a small college doesn’t get paid peanuts.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:22:03am

re: #188 Kragar

Setting aside his music career, just look at what he’s done as a pilot. He flew into Lebanon during the Israeli-Hezballah fighting to evacuate civilians. He flew into Egypt to fly stranded Brits out when a different Brit airlines went collapsed. I know on several occasions, he volunteered to be the pilot to bring home British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Give the guy a knighthood already

I know; I’m genuinely surprised he hasn’t been knighted. Even one of my students (she loathes heavy metal music in general) said she’s sincerely impressed by Dickinson and what he’s done in his life.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:22:08am

re: #189 danarchy

It isn’t just his salary though, his wife was the president of a college for the better part of a decade and although I don’t know what her salary was, even the president of a small college doesn’t get paid peanuts.

If he can remember how many houses he’s got, that’s OK by me….

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danarchy  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:22:19am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, to overcome the trauma of finding a dead mouse in my boot this morning, I just went on a small shopping spree at Amazon.
Got some water colors, Pentel pens, blank stationery, sealing wax and sealing stamps, and other artsy stuffs.
And, just so I could say I got something practical: some replacement vacuum cleaner bags.

Small Amazon commission winging its way to LGF HQ.

I would have expected a new pair of boots ;)

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Great White Snark  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:24:10am

Hey CL, after your mouse story earlier you are gonna love this

You be Tom, I’ll be Jerry! Incredible cartoon moment when a cunning mouse taunts a prowling cat before escaping unscathed

Read more: dailymail.co.uk
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:28:57am

re: #188 Kragar

Setting aside his music career, just look at what he’s done as a pilot. He flew into Lebanon during the Israeli-Hezballah fighting to evacuate civilians. He flew into Egypt to fly stranded Brits out when a different Brit airlines went collapsed. I know on several occasions, he volunteered to be the pilot to bring home British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Give the guy a knighthood already

had no idea. good to know.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:35:08am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, he can’t.
Even when he denies that he does it, he has to repeat the denial at least three times in row.

Then a cock crows?

Saint Peter he ain’t.

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Kragar  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:38:53am
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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:42:22am

re: #180 wrenchwench

OK, not all the New Mexico BP agents are different:

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Now imagine what Trump’s gestapo would be like if BP agents are acting like this now.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:43:15am

‘Bizarre’ Group of Distant Black Holes are Mysteriously Aligned

So, quantum fluctuations in density seeded the development of galaxies in the early universe—but it looks like their spins are correlated, too. Here’s a quantum effect it takes a radio telescope to see.

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Kragar  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:43:51am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:45:03am

Flickr

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Kragar  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:45:21am

re: #198 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Easy enough to explain.

Those are obviously the prisons of the Ogdru Jahad.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:46:24am

re: #198 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

‘Bizarre’ Group of Distant Black Holes are Mysteriously Aligned

Embedded Image

So, quantum fluctuations in density seeded the development of galaxies in the early universe—but it looks like their spins are correlated, too. Here’s a quantum effect it takes a radio telescope to see.

Mega-macro entanglement

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:48:21am

re: #196 Kragar

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Damn if Gary Johnson doesn’t make a lot more sense than Republicans do. Still couldn’t vote for eviscerating the social safety net though.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:48:57am

re: #199 Kragar

Somewhere Bryan Fischer is crying.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:49:00am

And Baby Whiplash’s STUPIDEST SEXIST MANSPLAIN WHY TEH WIMMENS DONTS DESERVES TEH EQUAL PAYS==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:49:43am

re: #199 Kragar

[Embedded content]

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:53:02am

re: #196 Kragar

Libertarian White House hopeful: Hillary and Trump represent just 30 percent of the electorate

Buddy? You represent only yourself.

Otherwise you’re just a statist like Hillary and Trump. //

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Kragar  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:55:06am
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Stanley Sea  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:56:56am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

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SAVE THE MOUSEY

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 11:58:43am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:00:06pm

re: #201 Kragar

Anung un Rama

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BeachDem  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:00:15pm

re: #189 danarchy

It isn’t just his salary though, his wife was the president of a college for the better part of a decade and although I don’t know what her salary was, even the president of a small college doesn’t get paid peanuts.

In 2004, Sanders was named President of Burlington College…Sanders’s salary as President was $160,000, with a contract for the position through 2013; on departure she received the title of President Emeritus and a $200,000 severance.

en.wikipedia.org

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Kragar  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:01:13pm

re: #211 The Ghost of the Spaghetti Weevil

and upon his brow is set a crown of flame.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:02:14pm

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

Wasn’t there a study that showed that women a few years out of college, still single and childless, were making less money than their male counterparts in the same jobs?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:02:36pm

re: #213 Kragar

and upon his brow is set a crown of flame.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:03:03pm

re: #199 Kragar

[Embedded content]

The damage control begins.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:03:04pm

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Unless I’m mistaken, the folks who calculate gender gap already adjust for time taken out of the workforce. So, no.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:04:48pm

re: #214 Belafon

Wasn’t there a study that showed that women a few years out of college, still single and childless, were making less money than their male counterparts in the same jobs?

LOOK AT THE CHART, LIBTARD!

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:05:56pm

re: #214 Belafon

Wasn’t there a study that showed that women a few years out of college, still single and childless, were making less money than their male counterparts in the same jobs?

I found this study==>

Wingnuts are harping on some random factoid that single women out of college, in certain limited markets, make more than men in the same field. They don’t provide a link, and I don’t feel like going through Baby Whiplash’s timeline to find it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:06:11pm

re: #216 Big Beautiful Door

The damage control begins.

Was he ASLEEP when all those businesses were telling Georgia that they’d take their business elsewhere? Or did he just thing doing it all in a day would fool people?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:11:15pm

WHITE GIRL BLACKMANSPLAINS==>

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:11:28pm

re: #220 Blind Frog Belly White

Was he ASLEEP when all those businesses were telling Georgia that they’d take their business elsewhere? Or did he just thing doing it all in a day would fool people?

He was too busy on X-Hamster.

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Kragar  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:13:38pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:17:38pm

re: #203 Big Beautiful Door

Damn if Gary Johnson doesn’t make a lot more sense than Republicans do. Still couldn’t vote for eviscerating the social safety net though.

Gary Johnson was and might as well still be a Republican. He is not to be trusted.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:29:11pm

re: #224 wrenchwench

Gary Johnson was and might as well still be a Republican. He is not to be trusted.

True enough, though a lot of what he said about immigration and drug policy in the link is spot on.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:30:47pm

Mississippi baker shames anti-gay governor after baking his inaugural cake

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 12, 2016 • 12:34:08pm

re: #225 Big Beautiful Door

True enough, though a lot of what he said about immigration and drug policy in the link is spot on.

I suspect if the GOP fragments, the PoG (Party of God) and the alt-right racists will stay together, while the Libertarian shitweasels who want to actually win office instead of jerking off with the “Libertarian Party” will become Democrats. We’ve got to watch out for that.

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Jack Burton  Apr 12, 2016 • 1:00:12pm

re: #225 Big Beautiful Door

True enough, though a lot of what he said about immigration and drug policy in the link is spot on.

Those are the Big-L Libertarians that are in the party and get 0.0002% of the vote. If they ever want to get anywhere, they have to join the GOP and adopt one or more of it’s more asinine policy positions. Generally harping about personhood for zygotes and/or non-personhood for swarthy barbarians.

Regardless, he might be OK or right on about the drug war or immigration, but I’m sure the rest of his positions are divorced from reality.

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Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday's Child)  Apr 12, 2016 • 1:00:51pm

re: #211 The Ghost of the Spaghetti Weevil

Anung un Rama

Death for you! Rasputin is master!

(*klong klong klog*)

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TedStriker  Apr 12, 2016 • 1:18:15pm

re: #162 451_Montag

I’m not sure anyone begrudges his success and comfort. The fact is he is better off than most, good for him.

It is simply the hypocrisy of his positions. Owning 3 houses is not a bad thing. Being a millionaire isn’t a bad thing. The problem lies with him castigating others for the same thing. The problem is the image he portrays as a slightly scruufy old socialist firebrand.

I agree that income is not even and should be spread out a bit. All boats should rise, but you must see that there is a disconnect between the image and the rhetoric. This is what is turning off natural Bernie supporters such as myself.

The question is on his wages should he be a millionaire with 3 houses, or has his income been supplemented? Does he not spend as much on living costs due to his position?

By all means let him be a firebrand, but when he seems to have feet of clay, perhaps he can tone down the beatings he lays on others when he gains the same benefits.

To me saying there is nothing wrong because he is less rich than others in his position misses the entire truth of Bernie’s campaign, rings hollow.

re: #164 Dr. Matt

Who implied that he said he took a “vow of poverty”? I have no problem with anyone being wealthy. I always thought it was stupid when rwnjs lost their shit because Al Gore was wealthy. But, Bernie sheeple dudebros buy up his unrealistic socialist utopia bullshit while he lives as a millionaire with 3 homes. It’s easy to be a socialist when you’re a millionaire.

Hear, hear…It is really damn easy to be an idealist socialist when you have plenty of “fuck you” money.

Also, another bone of contention that I have with Bernie is how his campaign has buffed up his 60s civil rights bonafides, yet, in over 30 years in Congress, I’ve haven’t heard of him doing jack shit.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 12, 2016 • 1:19:28pm

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

I actually wouldn’t mind doing that. I love being around kids, and it would be quite happy taking care of children. :)


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