Federal Judge: Confederate Emblem on Mississippi Flag Is “Anti-American”

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African-American attorney Carlos Moore has filed a federal lawsuit in Mississippi seeking to have the state flag declared unconstitutional, because it includes a Confederate battle emblem (shown above). Yesterday the judge in the case said the Confederate flag is “anti-American,” a fact that’s hard to deny since it’s a symbol of a pro-slavery rebellion that seceded from and declared war against the United States. If that isn’t anti-American, what is?

Reeves didn’t say when he will rule on the arguments he heard Tuesday, but he noted they took place on the anniversary of the first shots of the Civil War being fired in 1861 at Fort Sumter, South Carolina.

“We’re still arguing about a flag in 2016 and arguing about a flag that is anti-American,” Reeves said. He said the Confederate battle flag was one symbol of those who fought to secede from the United States.

The judge also said the battle emblem is a symbol of the Confederacy, “which is anathema to anybody who lives within the 21st century.”

It doesn’t take a psychic to predict that this will drive the right wing media nuts (a short drive).

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Dr. Matt  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:15:36pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:15:54pm

I think I’m the only lizard from MS. This will be interesting.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:20:00pm

It’s an interesting case, but if you can sue because your state embarrasses you, Florida is in a lot of trouble.

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thecommodore  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:20:49pm

THE SOUTH SECEDED BECAUSE OF HIGH TARIFFS BLACKS FOUGHT FOR THE CONFEDERACY THE 10TH AMENDMENT ALLOWS SECESSION THE CONFEDERACY WAS THE FIRST TEA PARTY MOVEMENT!!!!1!1!!11!!

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Gretchen Tiger  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:21:26pm

It’s the battle flag of Federalism —dagnammit!!!

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:21:56pm

I suspect this will get thrown out with the judge saying “As much as we’d like to push these to the dustbin of history, a court cannot make this change.”

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Dr. Matt  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:23:51pm

There wuldn’t been no war of northern aggression if them thar uppity blacks just didn’t complane so much about there employment situation!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:28:36pm

Oh well, the judge’s statement should be enough to make the usual cast of characters call for a Secession Convention or something.

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weave  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:29:08pm

Oh this is rich….

Redstate: Drudge Report Continues To Shill For Donald Trump And Suffers A Beclowning

Seems Redstate is just now noticing that Drudge likes to distort and selectively post headlines that fit his own personal agenda.

It was obvious even before Ted Cruz remarked on it the the Drudge Report had tossed aside any pretensions of being serious

As if that assclown was ever serious.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:29:15pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

I think I’m the only lizard from MS. This will be interesting.

My dad is from there, I graduated high school there, I have many relatives there. And yes, this will get interesting.

US Constitution, Article III, section 3:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

So by constitutional definition the flag is a treason flag.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:30:30pm

re: #9 weave

Oh this is rich….

Redstate: Drudge Report Continues To Shill For Donald Trump And Suffers A Beclowning

Seems Redstate is just now noticing that Drudge likes to distort and selectively post headlines that fit his own personal agenda.

As if that assclown was ever serious.

Some more hot wingnut on wingnut action

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:31:41pm

I’m really at a loss as to why nobody seems to care that the Georgia state flag:

Is the actual Stars and Bars!:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:40:32pm
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Franklin  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:40:44pm

OMG, this is, something alright. I felt bad for laughing but there are some good parts.

Brothers Convince Little Sister of Zombie Apocalypse

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:40:51pm

re: #12 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m really at a loss as to why nobody seems to care that the Georgia state flag:
Is the actual Stars and Bars!:

Ignorance, mostly, I presume. I didn’t know that until just now.

Is it reasonable that people would find the flag under which war was levied to be somewhat more offensive than the ur-national symbol? That doesn’t seem unreasonable.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:41:13pm

Someone needs to call Putin’s bluff one of these days.

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Jack Burton  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:41:34pm

re: #12 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Because the average person/low information voter thinks the “Confederate Flag” is the battle flag and has no idea WTF that other one is.

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Jack Burton  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:42:33pm

re: #16 Ziggy_TARDIS

What form would that take that won’t result in me playing Fallout for real shortly after?

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KGxvi  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:42:53pm

re: #15 Testy Toad T

Ignorance, mostly, I presume. I didn’t know that until just now.

Is it reasonable that people would find the flag under which war was levied to be somewhat more offensive than the ur-national symbol? That doesn’t seem unreasonable.

If I’m remembering my Civil War history correctly, the confederates tried to fight under the Stars and Bars, but in an era where troops still used flags to recognize positions, the Stars and Bars were too close to Old Glory to be easily identified. Thus the adoption of the Southern Cross as the battle flag.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:46:25pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Glenn Beck claims that Ted Cruz “chewed out” his staff for allowing him to appear at Kevin Swanson’s anti-gay rally:

Why? Isn’t Cruz down with the anti-gay?

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:46:33pm

re: #16 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Someone needs to call Putin’s bluff one of these days.

Totes. A shooting war sounds like a great idea.

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KGxvi  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:48:10pm

So, I was having a somewhat brief political conversation with my dad yesterday. He’s moved into the “I don’t believe any of those liars, they’re all full of crap” camp of politics. When I mentioned that economists evaluating Trump’s policies basically said that it’d lead to a trade war with Mexico and China his response was “I don’t think it’d be that bad, I think they depend on us a lot more than we depend on them.” I wasn’t really sure how to explain that it’d be much worse for us, but I found it interesting that he’s basically reached the “fuck em all” level of politics.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:48:57pm

re: #19 KGxvi

If I’m remembering my Civil War history correctly, the confederates tried to fight under the Stars and Bars, but in an era where troops still used flags to recognize positions, the Stars and Bars were too close to Old Glory to be easily identified. Thus the adoption of the Southern Cross as the battle flag.

The Navy stuck with the Stars and Bars because the Beauregard flag couldn’t be inverted to signal distress.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:49:35pm

NATO and Eastern Bloc forces have been buzzing each other and trading paint longer than my parents have been alive. You know what? Everything has kind of gone okay and we generally haven’t had to lose lives over it.


But internet revenge porn gonna internet revenge porn.
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KGxvi  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:50:02pm

re: #20 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Why? Isn’t Cruz down with the anti-gay?

Cruz is the son of a preacher man, so maybe he’s really just a grifter and not a true believer? And all the swarminess is just part of the grift?

Nah, sorry, can’t believe that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:50:54pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:51:21pm

re: #18 Jack Burton

Next time they buzz us, they get shot down.

Turkey did that to Russia earlier, and suffered very few consequences. Or, let the CIA go back the tricks and things they did in the Cold War.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:51:46pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

OFFS

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:52:14pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bernie didn’t expect some kind of Spanish Inquisition.

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:54:25pm

re: #22 KGxvi

IIRC, because of NAFTA, we export more to Mexico than we import from them. Economically, a trade war would hurt US businesses more.

China and the US are part of the WTO. Anything we do to China would get challenged there, and if the US refused to cooperate, both China and other countries could retaliate.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:55:33pm

In what wrongheaded bafflingly simplistic sky-is-green worldview does opening fire on a foreign nation’s military assets result in de-escalation of tensions?

Automatic warmongering downding is automatic. Might as well vote for Cruz while you’re at it.

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freetoken  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:55:56pm

re: #6 Belafon

I suspect this will get thrown out with the judge saying “As much as we’d like to push these to the dustbin of history, a court cannot make this change.”

More likely, that flags are a speech issue, and while MS cannot actually cause sedition against the US, they have the free speech right to have a banner that is anti-American.

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freetoken  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:56:49pm

Example: You can go out and buy a US flag and burn it. That is your right.

You cannot, however, go around setting fire to property of the US>

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Jack Burton  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:57:47pm

re: #27 Ziggy_TARDIS

Next time they buzz us, they get shot down.

Turkey did that to Russia earlier, and suffered very few consequences. Or, let the CIA go back the tricks and things they did in the Cold War.

This is so wrong it’s not even wrong. Russia isn’t Gabon or some shit.

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:58:02pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:58:06pm

About time. People have lied about the enemy Confederate flag for 150 years, all in the name of “national reconciliation,” but that doesn’t change the truth. This was also the reason the rest of the country stood idly by while Jim Crow was enacted and Reconstruction dismantled. The truth wasn’t the only casualty.

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KGxvi  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:59:26pm

re: #30 Belafon

IIRC, because of NAFTA, we export more to Mexico than we import from them. Economically, a trade war would hurt US businesses more.

According to the Census Bureau we have a trade deficit of about $50-60b per year with Mexico. That’s much less than what we run with China.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 1:59:40pm

re: #31 Testy Toad T

How would you deal with Russian Aggression then?

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:01:14pm

re: #27 Ziggy_TARDIS

Next time they buzz us, they get shot down.

Turkey did that to Russia earlier, and suffered very few consequences. Or, let the CIA go back the tricks and things they did in the Cold War.

Russians buzzing us is no threat. Its all posturing and we could blow them out of the sky before the pilots could even see our ships. There is no reason for us to take this seriously.

Turkey actually could be threatened by Russian forces, so its an entirely different set of rules.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:02:15pm

re: #38 Ziggy_TARDIS

How would you deal with Russian Aggression then?

By being a goddamned adult and not killing people because my fee-fees were hurt.

Increasingly frequent painting of Russian military assets with illuminators is probably the time-honored tradition by which we didn’t kick off World War III any dozens of times in the last half-century.

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:02:38pm

re: #37 KGxvi

According to the Census Bureau we have a trade deficit of about $50-60b per year with Mexico. That’s much less than what we run with China.

Thanks.

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KGxvi  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:04:53pm

re: #41 Belafon

No problem, if you’re interested, here’s the link with all the countries.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:06:54pm

I’m going to peace out rather than dignify with my further participation a conversation about whether we should fire the first rounds in a hot shooting war with Russia.

Ludicrous. SMDH.

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Great White Snark  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:07:48pm

re: #27 Ziggy_TARDIS

Next time they buzz us, they get shot down.

Turkey did that to Russia earlier, and suffered very few consequences. Or, let the CIA go back the tricks and things they did in the Cold War.

We have a due process for these incidents. Lets do that first before we start killing over pride.
state.gov

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:07:58pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:08:56pm

re: #27 Ziggy_TARDIS

Next time they buzz us, they get shot down.

Turkey did that to Russia earlier, and suffered very few consequences. Or, let the CIA go back the tricks and things they did in the Cold War.

NO. This is a standard practice and has going on since the beginning of the Cold War, possibly earlier. They aren’t going to Pearl Harbor us with a dumb bomb released at eyeball range. We have people who are trained for decades to deal with these situations. They are right on the ships too, in the captain’s chair on the bridge.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:09:48pm

Some people…

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KingKenrod  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:11:58pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

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That’s a good follow. @paprbckparadise

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KGxvi  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:12:24pm

re: #30 Belafon

Clicking through to look at some of the numbers, it looks like China and Mexico are the biggest destinations for our exports, so starting trade wars with them would be less than good. The other thing is that we run trade deficits with a lot of countries, mostly because we are the largest economy in the world (meaning we tend to have the most disposable wealth) so we buy lots of stuff from lots of people who are more than willing to sell to us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:12:28pm

Bevin has been vetoing legislation all damned day.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:12:59pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:14:57pm

re: #44 Great White Snark

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel

Ok. I have cooled down a little bit. I saw other news about artillery strikes around Mariupol from the Russians, and I got very angry about that. That calmed me down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:15:24pm
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Kragar  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:16:53pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:18:37pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

Translation from Bevin-ese to Human:

We need to get Tax Money somewhere.

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:18:59pm

re: #48 KingKenrod

That’s a good follow. @paprbckparadise

Oooh, it is!

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KGxvi  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:19:25pm

re: #54 Kragar

He must not have gotten the memo about which way to move the goalposts

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:19:42pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:20:50pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was just in NC this week. Too bad I didn’t get to vent any frustrations on any local dumbshits while I was there. My company probably would’ve bailed me out of jail for performing a public service.

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jaunte  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:22:05pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:22:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:25:20pm
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mr.fusion  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:25:49pm

re: #14 Franklin

OMG, this is, something alright. I felt bad for laughing but there are some good parts.

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my favorite part was when she just basically says eff the family dog

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:26:57pm
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mr.fusion  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:27:39pm

re: #9 weave

Oh this is rich….

Redstate: Drudge Report Continues To Shill For Donald Trump And Suffers A Beclowning

Seems Redstate is just now noticing that Drudge likes to distort and selectively post headlines that fit his own personal agenda.

As if that assclown was ever serious.

It’s amazing to see wingnuts screaming that Drudge and Breitbart are garbage sources of news

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KGxvi  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:28:40pm

re: #65 mr.fusion

It’s amazing to see wingnuts screaming that Drudge and Breitbart are garbage sources of news

the wingularity has moved so far to the right that Drudge and Breitbart are now part of the MSM

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:29:11pm

The way these people and businesses are acting towards North Carolina and Mississippi (and other states) are why the world is way more complex than Sanders and the Republicans are making it out to be. There are lots of things we need to fix about the relationship between business and society, but I’m glad they’re putting pressure on these states that want to return us to the 50s.

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jaunte  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:29:24pm

Marsha Blackburn’s Bebbe Parts Circus is back in town.
washingtonpost.com

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:33:27pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:36:55pm

re: #68 jaunte

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Marsha Blackburn’s Bebbe Parts Circus is back in town.
washingtonpost.com

From there:

Republicans highlighted several documents they obtained through their investigation, including an April 2014 email between undisclosed parties discussing a researcher’s need for a “first trimester human embryo, preferably around 8 weeks, and up to 10 weeks gestation.”

Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) suggested the email was evidence “there effectively is an amazon.com for human parts, including entire babies.”

An email between undisclosed people is evidence! I’ll bet Daleiden wishes he had known….

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:37:40pm
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jaunte  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:38:20pm

Related to the embryonic cell research story:

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:42:32pm

re: #72 jaunte

Related to the embryonic cell research story:

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From your prior link:

“If you want to understand the Zika virus, the most efficient place to start is with the fetal tissue that is infected,” he said. “I think you have to go to the source if you want to understand what’s going wrong.”

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danarchy  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:42:41pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ok, my question is has anyone ever fallen for this? Seriously, like the FBI has nothing better to do than collect student loan debt? And a money order? Cause that is always the way the government does business.

Not to mention most student loans are deferred until after you are done being a student.

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jaunte  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:43:42pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

Obviously a bought and paid for shill for Big Part.

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ObserverArt  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:45:30pm

Wait. Hasn’t Bernie said he was sick of people thinking he is some podunk Senator and he wanted it known he can handle anything the big state Senators come under?

So, a big city newspaper holds a question and answer session and his wife says it was an inquisition.

Hello Mr and Mrs Sanders. You are not in Kansas anymore.

Saying you can’t handle some questions does not look good and does make you seem that you’ve been in a protected mode for a long time. Who knows, maybe no one ever asked him any questions in Vermont before. It comes off like a small town mayor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:46:30pm

re: #74 danarchy

Ok, my question is has anyone ever fallen for this? Seriously, like the FBI has nothing better to do than collect student loan debt? And a money order? Cause that is always the way the government does business.

Not to mention most student loans are deferred until after you are done being a student.

There will never be a lack of stupid people.

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:48:01pm

re: #74 danarchy

Ok, my question is has anyone ever fallen for this? Seriously, like the FBI has nothing better to do than collect student loan debt? And a money order? Cause that is always the way the government does business.

Not to mention most student loans are deferred until after you are done being a student.

Did you see the story the other day about Burger King workers breaking windows because of a called in gas leak: nydailynews.com. There are plenty of people that fall for calls from people who are supposedly authority figures.

I would hope that they’re frantically calling their parents or the school when they get this call.

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freetoken  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:49:39pm

The past couple of years I keep bringing up this topic, and the likes of Marsha Blackburn probably are sent into loops over this, but the world is marching on:

Human cloning with Chinese characteristics

Chinese genetic scientists must not be put off sensitive research by ethical concerns, the team behind a controversial study on modified human embryos said Wednesday as debate erupted over the paper.

Researchers from Guangzhou Medical University said they used a gene-editing technique known as CRISPR to artificially induce a mutation in human cells and make them resistant to HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

Their paper, which appeared last week in the Journal of Assisted Reproduction and Genetics, is only the world’s second published account of gene editing in human embryos.

Critics said the study—intended as a proof-of-principle exercise—was unnecessary and lacked medical justification, and strongly cautioned against the broader ethical implications of the slippery slope of human genome modification.

[…]

Personally, I have no problem with genetic modification of human genomes. The only qualms I have would be if researchers are trying to implant zygotes into wombs without knowing all the possible outcomes, and not being able to guarantee any born child from such a procedure has any more risk of developing abnormally than found in the general population of births.

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freetoken  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:50:51pm
The chief executive of Boyalife Group, the Chinese firm behind it, told AFP his company had technology advanced enough to replicate humans. The head of its South Korean partner has been quoted as saying it preferred mainland locations to avoid bioethics laws elsewhere that would ban the use of human eggs.

So there you have it.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:57:38pm

re: #49 KGxvi

I’ve gotta hand it to you for being able to look at all those numbers in spreadsheets. Anything but the simplest spreadsheets immediately make my eyes glaze over.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2016 • 2:59:33pm

It couldn’t be that all this talk of “Religious Liberty” is so much crap:

Federal judge rules that Nebraska prisoner may not practice Pastafarianism in jail

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:00:25pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:01:27pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

Surprising absolutely no one.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:01:44pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My shocked face, let me show you it….

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:02:18pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

Oooh, it is!

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Okay, now you’re making me miss all the little sidewalk stands in NYC where you could buy old paperbacks (and magazines, VHS tapes, vinyl records, etc.) Many of the paperbacks were like $0.25 each or 5 for $1.00.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:05:16pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Seriously, though…he destroyed two iPhones and didn’t destroy this one. What kind of an idiot would think there was anything significant on it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:05:42pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:08:04pm

Well, that was a nightmare and a half. Spent most of the last 16 hours trying to clean up my system after a malware attack. Seems I did something I haven’t done in years by clicking on the wrong link and then downloading an unsecured file. Had to use three different programs to clean up the entire mess…and I still feel like something got missed.

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:08:20pm

I have returned…

Took a well deserved vacation down to Music City - Nashville, and hit Mammoth Caves and Great Smokey Mountain National Parks. Caught some live music, enjoyed honky tonk row, and got skunked with the weather for a bit. We also saw the Hermitage, and visited James Polk’s family home (his homes were knocked down more than 100 years ago, even though his will called for it to be protected).

Got to see quite a bit of wildlife too - black bears with cubs, deer, wild turkeys, Jack Daniels, and the street scene downtown in Nashville.

And apparently the TN legislature has some wild ones working there too. Apparently one of the GOPers is way too hands on and engages in harassment. He’s been banned from state grounds except when on official state business at the legislature while the investigation continues. Sounds like a real charmer.

We also passed through some Civil War sites, including at Franklin, and there were some folks who were proudly showing their confederate colors. Umm, they do realize they’re celebrating not only the losing side, but the side that specifically stated their terms for insurrection was due to protecting the institution of slavery.

What we found particularly interesting is that Jackson put down insurrectionists during his term in office. He also owned slaves, so it’s an interesting juxtaposition. Add to that the fact that Jackson’s children later fought for the confederacy even though their father ended up believing that the Union must be preserved. How quick things change in a span of 30 years.

That has tremendous relevance to the current situation with the GOP. It doesn’t take much to watch a party go completely off the rails. And the GOP truly has gone off the rails.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:13:08pm
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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:16:33pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

Well, that was a nightmare and a half. Spent most of the last 16 hours trying to clean up my system after a malware attack. Seems I did something I haven’t done in years by clicking on the wrong link and then downloading an unsecured file. Had to use three different programs to clean up the entire mess…and I still feel like something got missed.

I feel your pain. I just spent most of the afternoon combing through a WordPress site looking for rogue files that I somehow missed when our web hosting reseller account got hacked about a month ago and a bunch of sites we host got infected with files used in phishing attacks. I’m so sick of deleting things, fielding clients complaints, and changing cPanel & FTP passwords. *SIGH*

I have no idea if I overlooked anything else.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:19:03pm

re: #90 lawhawk

I have returned…

Welcome back. Someone was asking about you the other day (don’t remember who).

P.S. Photos or none of it happened. //

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:20:49pm

re: #93 CuriousLurker

It’ll be a day or two and I’ll post ‘em at the old blog.

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:20:49pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

I feel your pain. I just spent most of the afternoon combing through a WordPress site looking for rogue files that I somehow missed when our web hosting reseller account got hacked about a month ago and a bunch of sites we host got infected with files used in phishing attacks. I’m so sick of deleting things, fielding clients complaints, and changing cPanel & FTP passwords. *SIGH*

I have no idea if I overlooked anything else.

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That’s always the headache about adware/spyware/malware attacks, that even if you spend hours or days cleaning everything up, you’re left with the feeling that you missed something in some nook or cranny you had no way of knowing about or checking.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:21:26pm

re: #94 lawhawk

It’ll be a day or two and I’ll post ‘em at the old blog.

Be sure to let us know as I’d love to see them.

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jaunte  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:21:32pm

Looking like a big grinning cowboy doofus still legal, tho.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:24:57pm

re: #97 jaunte

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Looking like a big grinning cowboy doofus still legal, tho.

WTF is a J…

The Chronicle reported last month, however, that in reality, Miller had not been invited to the state and appeared to have planned the trip around an appointment to receive “The Jesus Shot,” an injection that is billed as able to take away all pain for life.

Oh, well that makes perfect sense. Why are they persecuting Christians again??

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:28:48pm

re: #98 CuriousLurker

Well this article is filled with reassuring info: Q&A: What Is a ‘Jesus Shot’ and What’s It Supposed to Do?

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thedopefishlives  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:29:06pm

re: #99 CuriousLurker

Well this article is filled with reassuring info: Q&A: What Is a ‘Jesus Shot’ and What’s It Supposed to Do?

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Dafuq is that shit.

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jaunte  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:35:29pm

re: #99 CuriousLurker

Dr. Feelgood, Bible Belt Division.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:39:26pm

USTIN, TX (KTRK) —
One person is dead in a HazMat situation near the University of Texas campus in Austin, according to a UT spokesperson.

Austin firefighters responded to a hazardous materials call at a housing complex near the campus and found a victim, a man believed to be in his 20s, dead at the scene. There’s no immediate confirmation if the victim is a UT student.

At least five other victims were injured in connection with the incident at 21 Pearl Apartments in West Campus near 21st and Pearl streets.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:44:44pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

That’s always the headache about adware/spyware/malware attacks, that even if you spend hours or days cleaning everything up, you’re left with the feeling that you missed something in some nook or cranny you had no way of knowing about or checking.

I always love the helpful emails like:

Client: Item X isn’t working on my website/email. I keep getting an error. Do you know what the problem could be?

CL: Um, no, I don’t. *headdesk* Could you please be more specific?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:49:15pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh fuck.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:51:03pm

re: #20 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Why? Isn’t Cruz down with the anti-gay?

He recognizes that wanting to go all nazi death camp on gays is just a tad too anti-gay. Even Caitlynn might abandon him at that point./

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Nojay UK  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:54:02pm

This is big news on the energy front.

bbc.co.uk

Peabody Energy, one of the biggest coal producers in the world has just filed for Chapter 11 protection in the US.

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:54:47pm

re: #103 CuriousLurker

I always love the helpful emails like:

Client: Item X isn’t working on my website/email. I keep getting an error. Do you know what the problem could be?

CL: Um, no, I don’t. *headdesk* Could you please be more specific?

It’s part of the reason I dropped my consideration of going into IT a few years ago. Though I’ve been dubbed the unofficial IT guy at work because I’m one of only two people on the full-time staff that has more than a passing familiarity with how a computer works.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 13, 2016 • 3:56:46pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bevin has been vetoing legislation all damned day.

He also knows the General Assembly can’t override any of his vetos, because they have burned up the entire session wrangling over the budget. BTW, if they don’t have a budget deal in place by tomorrow morning, a lot of Kentucky state government will shut down July 1st for potentially the rest of the year, because Bevin has stated he will not call a special session.

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:02:19pm

re: #106 Nojay UK

This is big news on the energy front.

bbc.co.uk

Peabody Energy, one of the biggest coal producers in the world has just filed for Chapter 11 protection in the US.

John Prine : Paradise (2010)

This was the first thing I thought of when I heard the news this morning.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:03:46pm

re: #108 Big Beautiful Door

He also knows the General Assembly can’t override any of his vetos, because they have burned up the entire session wrangling over the budget. BTW, if they don’t have a budget deal in place by tomorrow morning, a lot of Kentucky state government will shut down July 1st for potentially the rest of the year, because Bevin has stated he will not call a special session.

Is there anything in the state constitution that can be used to remove him for dereliction of duty? Letting the state crash and burn for 6 months would seem to be ample reason.

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Jenner7  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:04:55pm

I’m pretty sure she’s making this up…

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:07:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:07:55pm

re: #108 Big Beautiful Door

So fuck Obama for going golfing and taking a family vacation but a special session is just too much for me?

Nope, no double standard here…

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:08:07pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck that shit.

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:10:47pm

re: #114 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Fuck that shit.

I could post a spider that could take care it it….

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:11:35pm

re: #110 stpaulbear

Is there anything in the state constitution that can be used to remove him for dereliction of duty? Letting the state crash and burn for 6 months would seem to be ample reason.

I don’t know, but only the Governor is authorized to call a special session, and he will say it was the General Assembly that let the state crash and burn by failing to pass a budget. I’m guessing that when August rolls around and all the kids are still hanging around the house because the state universities are closed, Bevin might start feeling a little heat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:12:14pm

re: #108 Big Beautiful Door

He also knows the General Assembly can’t override any of his vetos, because they have burned up the entire session wrangling over the budget. BTW, if they don’t have a budget deal in place by tomorrow morning, a lot of Kentucky state government will shut down July 1st for potentially the rest of the year, because Bevin has stated he will not call a special session.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:12:38pm

re: #112 CuriousLurker

WTF? Since when is calling for genocide “satire”?

It’s the old Limbaugh defense.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:14:32pm

re: #112 CuriousLurker

has stoked racial tensions in Anne Arundel County, Md., after his essay circulated on social media extolling the virtues of “corralling said Negroes back to the Sahara desert, and using a high-ordnance nuclear missile to wipe the cesspool of filth some call a ‘race’ from the earth.”

So…not only a racist, but he apparently also failed geography.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:14:39pm

re: #116 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t know, but only the Governor is authorized to call a special session, and he will say it was the General Assembly that let the state crash and burn by failing to pass a budget. I’m guessing that when August rolls around and all the kids are still hanging around the house because the state universities are closed, Bevin might start feeling a little heat.

Hopefully the heat will start in the summer when people start visiting trashed out state parks. It takes a lot of work to keep them running and presentable. If no one is there to watch the parks, they’ll get vandalized to shit in no time. It happened in MN during a two-week shutdown.

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BeachDem  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:17:16pm

re: #70 wrenchwench

From there:

An email between undisclosed people is evidence! I’ll bet Daleiden wishes he had known….

Marsha Blackburn and Diane Black appear to share a brain. Unfortunately, neither seems to remember whose turn it is to use it, so it lies dormant. And it is the brain marked Abby Normal.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:18:18pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I see that Bevin made sure that the Executive Branch Ethics Committee won’t be able to afford an investigator. How convenient.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:19:32pm

re: #120 stpaulbear

Hopefully the heat will start in the summer when people start visiting trashed out state parks. It takes a lot of work to keep them running and presentable. If no one is there to watch the parks, they’ll get vandalized to shit in no time. It happened in MN during a two-week shutdown.

There was recently a fire at Jenny Wiley State Park; they can’t afford to repair the damage.

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ObserverArt  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:20:02pm

What the hell is going on with our media?

Did it take Donald Trump and Bernie sanders for EVERYONE to suddenly question the entire primary election process?

All I have seen today is all the media questioning the whole process. It is like all of a sudden the process stinks. This has been the process for how long now? Sure, some aspects have changed (the rules) but it is the parties that are making those changes.

Why all of a sudden is everything in question? Again…because of Trump and Sanders?

Both have really had nothing to do with the parties they are running under…but suddenly they have the power to call into question everything. And the media is helping them.

I just do not get this.

If you think it is all of a sudden a screwed up way to elect candidates, where were you all the last how many elections delegates chosen by the states has been the process?

And I am not saying it is a perfect process or a screwed up process. All I am saying is this IS the process.

And where is the media to question so much other political stuff that needs questioned? They usually tuck their tails and let politicians run rampant. Now they call everything in question.

And yes, I know…it is to drive ratings. It is about to drive this country crazy.

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Jack Burton  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:20:03pm

My changing opinion of Bernie Sanders since last summer:

Most of 2015: Maybe he’ll help pull the Overton Window back to the left and out of Far Wingnutistan.

Late 2015: I like much of what he’s saying. Things have gotten so bad that we need a little bit of Socialism sprinkled in there to save our system from collapse and/or revolution, like a New-New Deal. GOP and the Glibertarians have been yammering about trickle down for decades and it’s never worked as claimed. Far too many people have been bullshited into believing it too.

Going into Primary season: Hmmm. He doesn’t have any real plan to get anything done just a “how to pay for it plan” that seems way too optimistic and still is going to fuck everyone over a little. Also, how do you figure out the costs of something when you have no implementation details? His followers are fucking loonies too. Like Paulians.

Now: I wouldn’t vote for the guy for dog catcher. All my fears about where this could go have come true and worse. His supporters actually want the world to burn, so he can have his revolution, the very revolution we need to avoid by fixing some of the issues he’s brought up. He’s a bitter old asshole who’s using the DNC for all the advantages he can get but refuses to take on any of the responsibilities or disadvantages that come with it. He doesn’t truly understand the issues he claims to be an expert about. His presidency would be as giant of a mess as Trump’s would be.

He’s the left’s Donald Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:21:05pm

re: #112 CuriousLurker

#WTF? Since when is calling for genocide “satire”?

You have to read it in a snotty Anglo-Irish accent.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:21:27pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good catch; Bevin has given them the opportunity to override.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:22:33pm

re: #123 Big Beautiful Door

There was recently a fire at Jenny Wiley State Park; they can’t afford to repair the damage.

And Greenbo Lakes’ lodge and conference facilities are also closed due to fire damage.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:22:38pm

re: #123 Big Beautiful Door

There was recently a fire at Jenny Wiley State Park; they can’t afford to repair the damage.

Ridiculous. We never missed the mountain music festival when I was a student at UofL/UK.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:23:28pm

re: #119 Timothy Watson

So…not only a racist, but he apparently also failed geography.

LOL, indeed. I was kinda scratching my head over that part, “The Sahara, srsly?”

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:28:02pm
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b_sharp  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:28:43pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

I feel your pain. I just spent most of the afternoon combing through a WordPress site looking for rogue files that I somehow missed when our web hosting reseller account got hacked about a month ago and a bunch of sites we host got infected with files used in phishing attacks. I’m so sick of deleting things, fielding clients complaints, and changing cPanel & FTP passwords. *SIGH*

I have no idea if I overlooked anything else.

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Welcome to my life.

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:31:16pm

re: #112 CuriousLurker

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My firstthought was of Jonathan Swift, and reading the article, that was what the assignment was based on. Supposedly, the original story was to shock people into doing something about the famine at the time. We’ll have to see what the student was thinking, but I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to think that a high school student thought that a ridiculous proposal would get people thinking about race after reading “A Modest Proposal.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:31:49pm

re: #131 wrenchwench

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First three are Iowa, NH and SC.

Strange definition of “South”…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:32:36pm

I wonder how reactions would have been different if it were the boy’s swim team who hired a stripper. The girls (ninth graders) are going to be punished.


US schoolgirls face punishment after hiring male stripper

I think they should get a prize for having the nerve to do it.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:32:57pm

re: #131 wrenchwench

Someone really needs to ask Sanders what he means when he says the South “distorts” the process.

It mostly means that he never ever gets out of his lily-white state.

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:34:03pm

This is why I never considered anyone but Hillary for my vote:

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:37:07pm

Yeah, that makes me a ‘single issue voter’. But look at this single issue. It encompasses individual sovereignty, self-determination, economics, health, a pro-science attitude, and everything.

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:37:12pm

re: #125 Jack Burton

My changing opinion of Bernie Sanders since last summer:

Most of 2015: Maybe he’ll help pull the Overton Window back to the left and out of Far Wingnutistan.

Late 2015: I like much of what he’s saying. Things have gotten so bad that we need a little bit of Socialism sprinkled in there to save our system from collapse and/or revolution, like a New-New Deal. GOP and the Glibertarians have been yammering about trickle down for decades and it’s never worked as claimed. Far too many people have been bullshited into believing it too.

Going into Primary season: Hmmm. He doesn’t have any real plan to get anything done just a “how to pay for it plan” that seems way too optimistic and still is going to fuck everyone over a little. Also, how do you figure out the costs of something when you have no implementation details? His followers are fucking loonies too. Like Paulians.

Now: I wouldn’t vote for the guy for dog catcher. All my fears about where this could go have come true and worse. His supporters actually want the world to burn, so he can have his revolution, the very revolution we need to avoid by fixing some of the issues he’s brought up. He’s a bitter old asshole who’s using the DNC for all the advantages he can get but refuses to take on any of the responsibilities or disadvantages that come with it. He doesn’t truly understand the issues he claims to be an expert about. His presidency would be as giant of a mess as Trump’s would be.

He’s the left’s Donald Trump.

I largely followed the same thought process, though I started to notice a stench right around January, just before Iowa. Up to that time, I’d had a favorable opinion of him, thought he was a bit overly optimistic about his proposals, and that his more rabid fans were the exception rather than the rule to his support base. Then the hacking incident happened and his handling of it sent up red flags. Followed by his decision to overturn months of “the emails aren’t important” to suddenly decide they were a “serious issue” just before New Hampshire clued me in that he was allowing his good fortunes to sway his campaign. The final straw really became the “You can’t be progressive and a moderate” statement that signaled to me and a lot of others that he was going to drop his focus on the issues and make the primaries a purity test. From that point forward, my opinion of him only soured further to the point now that I’d like to see him face a real challenge in 2018 from the DNC for his Senate seat.

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:38:32pm

re: #131 wrenchwench

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There’s something about those states that make them different from Utah, another state that Democrats won’t win. Something.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:39:10pm

re: #135 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I wonder how reactions would have been different if it were the boy’s swim team who hired a stripped. The girls (ninth graders) are going to be punished.


US schoolgirls face punishment after hiring male stripper

I think they should get a prize for having the nerve to do it.

“No genitalia were Cruzed in the making of this controversy.”

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MsJ  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:39:51pm

Bernie has, apparently, figured out he needs (specific) dems. Here’s one of today’s emails.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:43:15pm

My Amazon recommendations include a book that’s not coming out until September written by Mike Love about his life in the Beach Boys.

I think I could spend the rest of my life not waiting to read a book by Mike Love.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:44:43pm

re: #142 MsJ

In solidarity, Comrades!

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:45:04pm

Oh, HELL NO. I hope that octopus that escaped stays far, far away from South Korea. Video at the link, so DO NOT click if you’ve just eaten or are getting ready to do so.

Korean live octopus dish, sannajki, is a hit on Instagram

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:47:54pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

Oh, HELL NO. I hope that octopus that escaped stays far, far away from South Korea. Video at the link, so DO NOT click if you’ve just eaten or are getting ready to do so.

Korean live octopus dish, sannajki, is a hit on Instagram

Two of my kids played “American Family” in a Korean Broadcasting System educational series. Their reward included dinner with the head of KBS. They did me proud, but have not forgiven me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:49:30pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:50:55pm

re: #142 MsJ

Looking them up, I have three of their sites.

Pramila Jayapal. Her site has nothing on positions. In fact, the site doesn’t have much at all. About herself, even. I will admit I would have reluctance for voting for her if I lived in the area for other resons which I will not disclose.

Lucy Flores has a history as good Democrat in Nevada, but no campaign page, just FB page, which has not been updated since January.

Zephyr Teachout is much the same as Flores, but she does have a campaign page which she explains her position on some issues, but nothing on international politics or many other topics. Just Anti-Money in Politics, Small Business, Schools, and Water & Renewable Energy. No Immigration either, and nothing on even the most basic level of Gun Control.

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:54:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:55:31pm

oh dear…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:56:48pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

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Jack Burton  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:56:49pm

re: #148 Ziggy_TARDIS

Is the reason he hasn’t supported any down-ballot candidates yet because it took him this long to find a whopping three, *THREE*, crazy pseudo-democrats like him?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:57:18pm

re: #149 wrenchwench

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Boxed wine is what happens when you can’t take your 20-litre jerobamo to the cooperativa and fill it from the pump for 80 lire/litre.

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gocart mozart  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:58:14pm
April 7-8. 2016 — Was the father of presidential hopeful Cruz involved in the JFK assassination?

Previous questions have surfaced about the 1960s activities of Rafael Cruz, Sr., the father of GOP presidential hopeful Rafael Cruz, Jr. (Ted Cruz). Based on the presence of the elder Cruz, an anti-Castro activist, in Dallas and New Orleans before the November 22, 1963, assassination of President John F. Kennedy, there is a strong reason to believe that Cruz was associated with Central Intelligence Agency’s anti-Castro operations.

waynemadsenreport.com
nomoremister.blogspot.com

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 4:59:51pm

re: #133 Belafon

My firstthought was of Jonathan Swift, and reading the article, that was what the assignment was based on. Supposedly, the original story was to shock people into doing something about the famine at the time. We’ll have to see what the student was thinking, but I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to think that a high school student thought that a ridiculous proposal would get people thinking about race after reading “A Modest Proposal.”

Yes, I read the entire article before I posted about it. I’ve read about A Modest Proposal, but I’ve never read the essay itself. That said, Swift was born in Ireland and was a 60+ year old man already known for his satire when he wrote it. This student was a 17-year-old white kid in Maryland whose

…essay circulated on social media extolling the virtues of “corralling said Negroes back to the Sahara desert, and using a high-ordnance nuclear missile to wipe the cesspool of filth some call a ‘race’ from the earth.” […]

Seems like comparing apples & oranges to me. Even if the kid had good intentions (which I’m having trouble buying), then at best the teacher did a piss poor job of explaining Swift to the class and setting guidelines for the “mimicking.”

I guess I need to make a point of reading the original essay this weekend.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:00:23pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:00:59pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sigh

Fuck me, he really is the far-left’s Donald Trump.

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wrenchwench  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:01:03pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

First three are Iowa, NH and SC.

Strange definition of “South”…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:02:04pm

re: #152 Jack Burton

Not sure. I will say 2 of them are in their respective state’s legislature, and the 3rd has campaign experience. But all of them seem to have a problem with being single track minded, and none of them seem to be taking the campaigning seriously, if their sites are anything to go by.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:02:33pm

re: #158 wrenchwench

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:03:50pm
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Dr. Matt  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:04:41pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sigh

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:05:26pm

Who the fuck is Tim Robbins?

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ObserverArt  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:06:24pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sigh

It is official. Bernie is the Democrat’s Trump. Just like many here have said recently…some in this thread.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:06:33pm

re: #163 Testy Toad T

Who the fuck is Tim Robbins?

Susan Sarandon’s ex.

Shawshank’s Andy Dufresne.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:06:36pm

re: #163 Testy Toad T

Who the fuck is Tim Robbins?

Susan Sarandon’s husband

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:06:49pm

re: #163 Testy Toad T

Possibly this guy?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:06:54pm

re: #162 Dr. Matt

“Tim Robbins “I protested the Vietnam war in this park” // As a 12 year old?

Could be. Kid1 was at a (carefully-vetted) anti-war rally at 18 mos or so.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:07:24pm

re: #164 ObserverArt

It is official. Bernie is the Democrat’s Trump. Just like many here have said recently…some in this thread.

Disagree. He is more accurately the Democrats’ LUAPNOR.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:07:41pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh joy! He shares something in common too.

Robbins supported Ralph Nader’s 2000 presidential campaign and appeared on stage in character as Bob Roberts during the “Nader Rocks the Garden” rally at Madison Square Garden.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:08:40pm

re: #162 Dr. Matt

Even twelve year olds knew the war was bad. They heard it from The Monkees.

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ObserverArt  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:08:50pm

re: #169 Testy Toad T

Disagree. He is more accurately the Democrats’ RONPAUL.

Well, that too. But his supporters are acting like Trump supporters and neither of them stop them from tearing shit up.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:11:33pm

One of the defining characteristics of Sanders is that his policies are broadly aligned with the Democratic Party’s, even though he very carefully pretends to be something exciting and new, and he appears to have a substantial and surprising degree of cross-ticket appeal. His appeals for economic justice seem to resonate with a non-trivial number of voters who would self-identify as independent or even republican, and he seems to do characteristically well with young folks who don’t necessarily recognize how hard the party has fought to win the victories that it has. It’s LUAPNOR to a T.

Trump is a doubled-down appeal to an extremely narrow cut of the GOP base, is stunningly, historically unpopular with indies and Democrats, and is really all over the map in terms of putative positions. He really has no parallel in modern American politics, and when one attempts to shoehorn one, it’s really just an exercise in pulling the wool over your eyes.

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zerosumgame0005  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:14:06pm

re: #4 thecommodore

THE SOUTH SECEDED BECAUSE OF HIGH TARIFFS BLACKS FOUGHT FOR THE CONFEDERACY THE 10TH AMENDMENT ALLOWS SECESSION THE CONFEDERACY WAS THE FIRST TEA PARTY MOVEMENT!!!!1!1!!11!!

bullshit, the “South” didn’t like the idea of blacks not working for free

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:14:07pm

In today’s news about digging yourself deeper.

Speaking on behalf of the Porcellian Club, officer Charles M. Storey protests the idea of admitting women by pointing out that their inclusion could only lead to more sexual assault.

“Given our policies, we are mystified as to why the current administration feels that forcing our club to accept female members would reduce the incidence of sexual assault on campus,” Storey wrote this week in an email to the Harvard Crimson. “Forcing single gender organizations to accept members of the opposite sex could potentially increase, not decrease the potential for sexual misconduct.”

O_O

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:18:47pm

How old is Charles M. Storey, 96?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:23:48pm

re: #176 stpaulbear

Well, considering that this is probably going to get bigger, I think I can find out…

Found he was in the class of 82. So, if he went for a bachelor’s and took 4 years, he graduated at the age of 22-23. And that was 34 years ago. So, he would be 56-57 years old, if I were to guess, though possibly a bit older.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:27:48pm

which got these tweeted responses:

sigh…

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:30:45pm

re: #177 Ziggy_TARDIS

No doubt he worshiped Reagan.

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CriticalDragon1177  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:31:06pm

Charles Johnson,

As much as I might want them to remove the Confederate Flag from the Mississippi state flag, I’m not sure on what grounds, they’ll be able to force the state to do so. Is being un-American good enough, if you want to argue that it is unconstitutional somehow? I’m not sure how that would work and as offensive as it is, you can’t argue the symbol in and off itself oppresses anyone.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:33:04pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sigh…

Outreach!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:33:51pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:35:22pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:39:39pm

re: #180 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

As much as I might want them to remove the Confederate Flag from the Mississippi state flag, I’m not sure on what grounds, they’ll be able to force the state to do so. Is being un-American good enough, if you want to argue that it is unconstitutional somehow? I’m not sure how that would work and as offensive as it is, you can’t argue the symbol in and off itself oppresses anyone.

The case of Mississippi v “Hey, Everybody Thinks You’re Assholes”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:41:03pm

No charges for Corey Kewandowski.

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:44:20pm

re: #182 Stanley Sea

And you just ruined it for them! Bless you.

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:44:44pm

re: #185 GlutenFreeJesus

No charges for Corey Kewandowski.

Being associated with Trump is punishment enough.

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gocart mozart  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:49:22pm
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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:51:59pm

re: #155 CuriousLurker

Yes, I read the entire article before I posted about it. I’ve read about A Modest Proposal, but I’ve never read the essay itself. That said, Swift was born in Ireland and was a 60+ year old man already known for his satire when he wrote it. This student was a 17-year-old white kid in Maryland whose

Seems like comparing apples & oranges to me. Even if the kid had good intentions (which I’m having trouble buying), then at best the teacher did a piss poor job of explaining Swift to the class and setting guidelines for the “mimicking.”

I guess I need to make a point of reading the original essay this weekend.

Mostly because I remember high school, I’m going to lay most of it on the teacher.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:52:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:56:05pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:57:11pm

Heh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 5:58:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:01:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:02:14pm
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:02:42pm

“None of the Above” seems like a more logical choice to me…

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:02:56pm

re: #190 Dr. Matt

Bernie’s honest about how he feels. I like that. I think Obama’s a great president…but he hasn’t been a perfect president. There’s nothing wrong with that. Wait until Mrs. Status Quo takes office. She’ll make Obama look like the Dali fucking Lama.

And the Scandinavia thing isn’t about race (for the fucking knuckle-dragger Hill supporters who like to pretend Bernie is some kind of closet Klansman) - they have socialized medicine and free college education.

That said, vote blue even if it’s not the Jew.

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Lancelot Link  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:03:37pm

re: #163 Testy Toad T

Yeah, like I’m going to take political advice from this guy.
Exquisite Acting - Tim Robbins - Howard the Duck

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:03:58pm

re: #196 FormerDirtDart

They only said Kasich is the only choice for the GOP. That doesn’t mean they think he’d be ok for the country. ;)

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:05:03pm

re: #197 darthstar

Bernie’s honest about how he feels. I like that. I think Obama’s a great president…but he hasn’t been a perfect president. There’s nothing wrong with that. Wait until Mrs. Status Quo takes office. She’ll make Obama look like the Dali fucking Lama.

And the Scandinavia thing isn’t about race (for the fucking knuckle-dragger Hill supporters who like to pretend Bernie is some kind of closet Klansman) - they have socialized medicine and free college education.

That said, vote blue even if it’s not the Jew.

I’ll take “Mrs. Status Quo” over “Unicorn fart Man”.

Yeah, that title set me off.

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:07:00pm

re: #197 darthstar

Bernie’s honest about how he feels. I like that. I think Obama’s a great president…but he hasn’t been a perfect president. There’s nothing wrong with that. Wait until Mrs. Status Quo takes office. She’ll make Obama look like the Dali fucking Lama.

And the Scandinavia thing isn’t about race (for the fucking knuckle-dragger Hill supporters who like to pretend Bernie is some kind of closet Klansman) - they have socialized medicine and free college education.

That said, vote blue even if it’s not the Jew.

I don’t. If he were honest, he’d have run in the primaries against Obama in 2012. He spent months saying “Let’s you and him fight” to anyone who’d listen.

I think we’re at the point where the dog whistles have been frequent enough from the Vermonter and his allies that the presumption of innocence no longer holds.

Bernie’s trying to be Trump, but he seems to be landing in the GamerGate/ Sad Puppy neighborhood: any contact with any other politician or entity is corrupting, a few bumper stickers hold the secret to life, and all them non-white, non-male, or non-young people are the scum of the Earth.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:07:40pm

re: #180 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

As much as I might want them to remove the Confederate Flag from the Mississippi state flag, I’m not sure on what grounds, they’ll be able to force the state to do so. Is being un-American good enough, if you want to argue that it is unconstitutional somehow? I’m not sure how that would work and as offensive as it is, you can’t argue the symbol in and off itself oppresses anyone.

It’s not merely “Un-American” it is a symbol of ACTIVE TREASON against the United States.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:07:55pm
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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:08:15pm

re: #197 darthstar

Bernie’s honest about how he feels. I like that.

This sounds oddly familiar.

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:08:25pm

re: #197 darthstar

Bernie’s honest about how he feels. I like that. I think Obama’s a great president…but he hasn’t been a perfect president. There’s nothing wrong with that. Wait until Mrs. Status Quo takes office. She’ll make Obama look like the Dali fucking Lama.

And the Scandinavia thing isn’t about race (for the fucking knuckle-dragger Hill supporters who like to pretend Bernie is some kind of closet Klansman) - they have socialized medicine and free college education.

That said, vote blue even if it’s not the Jew.

Just noticed this: Obama’s great, but the status quo would be awful?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:08:40pm

re: #197 darthstar

Won’t be a problem. Bernie won’t get the nomination.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:09:26pm

“His plans are crazy and he could never actually accomplish any of this, but I sure like how he talks!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:09:56pm

LOL Baby Whiplash and SMOTI are having a slapfight on Twitter

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:10:57pm
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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:12:57pm

re: #200 Belafon

I’ll take “Mrs. Status Quo” over “Unicorn fart Man”.

Yeah, that title set me off.

No worries…but she will be a status quo president. That’s just an observation, not a criticism. I hope to hell to be proven wrong.

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:13:26pm

re: #210 darthstar

No worries…but she will be a status quo president. That’s just an observation, not a criticism. I hope to hell to be proven wrong.

And your problem with sustaining the “great” status quo is…

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:14:41pm

re: #198 Lancelot Link

Yeah, like I’m going to take political advice from this guy.
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That’s a low low blow. He was great in Shawshank Redemption. Not agreeing with his politics though. He sounds delusional.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:14:51pm
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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:15:34pm

re: #206 GlutenFreeJesus

Won’t be a problem. Bernie won’t get the nomination.

I know. That saddens me a little. But at least he made the primaries interesting and forced her to acknowledge the minimum wage needs to go up (though she stops short at $12). Think how fucked she’d be if Hillary ran unopposed like the DNC wanted. She’d walk into the general with a year’s worth of focus on her. The Zika virus would be more popular after that kind of attention.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:16:20pm
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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:17:29pm

re: #214 darthstar

I know. That saddens me a little. But at least he made the primaries interesting and forced her to acknowledge the minimum wage needs to go up (though she stops short at $12). Think how fucked she’d be if Hillary ran unopposed like the DNC wanted. She’d walk into the general with a year’s worth of focus on her. The Zika virus would be more popular after that kind of attention.

Having somebody run against Clinton and rant and rave about “corporate Democratic whores” is making Hillary more popular? There would have been more focus on the Democratic race if it had been functionally unopposed?

Could you expand on this line of thinking? I truly don’t understand what you’re getting at.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:17:37pm

re: #201 Brian J.

Bernie’s trying to be Trump, but he seems to be landing in the GamerGate/ Sad Puppy neighborhood: any contact with any other politician or entity is corrupting, a few bumper stickers hold the secret to life, and all them non-white, non-male, or non-young people are the scum of the Earth.

If Thom Hartmann speaks for them, “non-abled” people are undesirable, too.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:18:18pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

You could charge a couple hundred phones off that spinning.

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:18:39pm

re: #214 darthstar

I know. That saddens me a little. But at least he made the primaries interesting and forced her to acknowledge the minimum wage needs to go up (though she stops short at $12). Think how fucked she’d be if Hillary ran unopposed like the DNC wanted. She’d walk into the general with a year’s worth of focus on her. The Zika virus would be more popular after that kind of attention.

And how exactly has the Sandbaggers’ constant accusations of ill-defined corruption helped her? How has that been better than “a year’s worth of focus”?

Sanders and his supporters have been worse than useless to the Democratic Party. $250 million in an attempt to alienate millenials from the political process, which may or may not succeed. Well done, idjits!

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:18:45pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

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I guess you’re gonna live inside their heads forever. Benedict Arnold!!11!

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:19:02pm

Here is your Amazeballs Science Accomplishment for the evening==>

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:20:33pm
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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:20:52pm

re: #216 Testy Toad T

Having somebody run against Clinton and rant and rave about “corporate Democratic whores” is making Hillary more popular? There would have been more focus on the Democratic race if it had been functionally unopposed?

Could you expand on this line of thinking? I truly don’t understand what you’re getting at.

Bernie didn’t call her a whore. Jesus fucking christ. Some other speaker did use the phrase, but applying that quote to Bernie is just dishonest. She’s not going to lose the election over it, and it gives the twittersphere two days of herd outrage (well deserved, granted), but don’t say that it came from Bernie.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:20:53pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:21:19pm

re: #210 darthstar

No worries…but she will be a status quo president. That’s just an observation, not a criticism. I hope to hell to be proven wrong.

If ‘status quo’ means not tearing the country limb from limb, I’ll wake up every morning of her presidency thanking my lucky stars that she won. I don’t want a president who tries (and fails) to fart unicorns.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:21:23pm

re: #223 darthstar

Bernie didn’t call her a whore. Jesus fucking christ. Some other speaker did use the phrase, but applying that quote to Bernie is just dishonest. She’s not going to lose the election over it, and it gives the twittersphere two days of herd outrage (well deserved, granted), but don’t say that it came from Bernie.

LAUGHING OUT FUCKING LOUD AT THE IRONY

Although I’ll note you didn’t answer the question.

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:22:57pm

re: #223 darthstar

Bernie didn’t call her a whore. Jesus fucking christ. Some other speaker did use the phrase, but applying that quote to Bernie is just dishonest. She’s not going to lose the election over it, and it gives the twittersphere two days of herd outrage (well deserved, granted), but don’t say that it came from Bernie.

When you’re a Presidential candidate, no one appears on a stage at your rally without your explicit approval and your implied support of everything he or she says. (If anyone does appear on said stage without approval, it’s a sign of massive and disqualifying incompetence.)

This came straight from Bernie. He certainly didn’t disavow it.

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:24:19pm

re: #219 Brian J.

Yeah…that’s money the DNC could have used. Again, the primary isn’t the end of the world. Just look at the GOP. One of those assholes will be given 200 electoral votes out the gate and will be treated as a viable alternative to Hillary by the media as soon as he’s got the nomination.

The general is all about reinventing the candidate so there’s a close race. This election will be decided by states like VA, OH, PA, FL, CO, NM, WI, IA, and maybe AZ. Everything else is either Red or Blue.

Feigning outrage over a primary challenge that gave Hillary some practice responding to criticism she’ll face in the general is senseless.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:25:24pm

re: #227 Brian J.

This came straight from Bernie. He certainly didn’t disavow it.

Sanders, by all appearances, is completely incompetent at hiring subordinates. That’s kind of an important task for a president. I’ll say it, if Hillary won’t: he’s completely unqualified for the position.

This is better than Trump and Cruz’s state of being negatively qualified, but they’ve been digging a trench under the limbo pole.

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SteelPH  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:26:10pm

I drawed a thing.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:26:38pm

re: #228 darthstar

Feigning outrage over a primary challenge that gave Hillary some practice responding to criticism she’ll face in the general is senseless.

Eleven hours sitting in a congressional hearing notwithstanding.

This idea that Hillary Clinton, favorite target-harpy of the right for an entire generation, only learned to face criticism because St. Bernie ran to her left is a bizarre fantasy.

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:27:50pm

re: #228 darthstar

Yeah…that’s money the DNC could have used. Again, the primary isn’t the end of the world. Just look at the GOP. One of those assholes will be given 200 electoral votes out the gate and will be treated as a viable alternative to Hillary by the media as soon as he’s got the nomination.

The general is all about reinventing the candidate so there’s a close race. This election will be decided by states like VA, OH, PA, FL, CO, NM, WI, IA, and maybe AZ. Everything else is either Red or Blue.

Feigning outrage over a primary challenge that gave Hillary some practice responding to criticism she’ll face in the general is senseless.

The primary was a wasted opportunity, and Sanders contributed nothing. Primary conflicts are played by different rules than those in the general election, which is why Hillary hasn’t been able to respond to Sanders’ insanity the way she could against the Republicans whose lines Sanders echoes.

Hillary will win despite Sanders’ efforts, not because of them. At least when Crump or Truz call her a whore, no one will be under the illusion that the name calling comes from an ally.

That’s why Sanders’ supporters were so horrified by the poll that came out of Georgia today. No one needs you in this party. If you wanna walk away from the impure, then walk… but no one’s gonna chase after you.

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:31:05pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

It’s not merely “Un-American” it is a symbol of ACTIVE TREASON against the United States.

Confederate flags are the flags of insurrectionists and secessionists. This is the side that lost the war. There are folks who glorify the South as though it was something worth cheering or fighting for. They were fighting to preserve the institution of slavery.

Full Stop.

All this nonsense about heritage and history is ahistorical revisionism, because it absolutely ignores that the reason the Southern states seceded from the Union was because of slavery. The South didn’t want to give up its ownership rights over other people - black people (and they often used religious grounds to justify slavery, just as these same self-righteous folks would claim discrimination against minorities, especially LGBT).

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:32:15pm

re: #231 Testy Toad T

Eleven hours sitting in a congressional hearing notwithstanding.

This idea that Hillary Clinton, favorite target-harpy of the right for an entire generation, only learned to face criticism because St. Bernie ran to her left is a bizarre fantasy.

I admired her after that eleven hour hearing. I thought she did great. But that was just a one day witch hunt (that failed miserably). The presidential campaign is a three month slur-fest these days. She’ll do fine, I know. She’s used to this shit. But she would be fighting image without having a few months of talking ideas if she didn’t have a primary challenge. I don’t see why that’s so difficult to understand.

Trump will turn this into a contest of personalities. That’s what the GOP is banking on now. Having a real debate over Democratic priorities before the shit show starts only does her well and makes her a stronger candidate.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:33:30pm

re: #231 Testy Toad T

Eleven hours sitting in a congressional hearing notwithstanding.

This idea that Hillary Clinton, favorite target-harpy of the right for an entire generation, only learned to face criticism because St. Bernie ran to her left is a bizarre fantasy.

Yep, Hillary’s been dealing with heavy bullshit for the last 20 years and she’s come through it all with a remarkable sense of cool. Not as cool as no-fucks-to-give Obama, but I bet she cuts loose with some doozies after her sixth year in office.

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ObserverArt  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:33:50pm

re: #232 Brian J.

The primary was a wasted opportunity, and Sanders contributed nothing. Primary conflicts are played by different rules than those in the general election, which is why Hillary hasn’t been able to respond to Sanders’ insanity the way she could against the Republicans whose lines Sanders echoes.

Hillary will win despite Sanders’ efforts, not because of them. At least when Crump or Truz call her a whore, no one will be under the illusion that the name calling comes from an ally.

That’s why Sanders’ supporters were so horrified by the poll that came out of Georgia today. No one needs you in this party. If you wanna walk away from the impure, then walk… but no one’s gonna chase after you.

What Georgia poll horrified Sanders supporters?

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:33:50pm

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

Here is your Amazeballs Science Accomplishment for the evening==>

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Wait, Dr. Ali Rezai? That’s an Iranian name.

Rezai was born in Iran and came to the United States when he was 10. He grew up in Los Angeles and went to college at UCLA. But even when he was in high school he knew he wanted to be a doctor.

He said he was, like many future doctors, fascinated by science — “really fascinated by all science. But in my second year of medical school, I became really interested in neurology and the complex nature of the brain.” […]

cnn.com

Unpossible, don’t believe it—he’s a deep-cover jihadi—all that stuff he accomplished is just Taqiyya!!11!

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:33:54pm

re: #232 Brian J.

That’s why Sanders’ supporters were so horrified by the poll that came out of Georgia today. No one needs you in this party. If you wanna walk away from the impure, then walk… but no one’s gonna chase after you.

I think that’s a little far. I think Sanders is legitimately better on some issues than Hillary Clinton. I do think she’s a little more cozy with the investment banking scene than I’d prefer. I do wish she’d been a little more skeptical of the Exciting Iraq Adventure. These are legitimate criticisms.

But man, it sure is telling how often I see “what concessions could presumptive-nominee Clinton make to bring Sanders supporters on board” and how little I see the converse. The implicit understanding that Clinton supporters would, to a man, line up by default behind a guy who hijacked the party… it’s something that ought to be said aloud more often. Sanders’ labored, understated hints toward unification behind the eventual victor offend me on a very deep and fundamental level, and I would be lying if I said personal disgust was far behind.

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Jenner7  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:34:00pm

Bernie needs to come out and say he doesn’t agree with Paul’s statement.

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:34:04pm

Straying away from politics - pretty photos (as promised).

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:34:09pm

re: #232 Brian J.

That’s why Sanders’ supporters were so horrified by the poll that came out of Georgia today. No one needs you in this party. If you wanna walk away from the impure, then walk… but no one’s gonna chase after you.

This is the kind of shit Hillary supporters pulled in 08. We don’t need anyone. They came around and supported Obama. And I know some people who are banking on the above as a ready-made excuse in the off-chance she loses.

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:34:40pm

re: #234 darthstar

Trump will turn this into a contest of personalities. That’s what the GOP is banking on now. Having a real debate over Democratic priorities before the shit show starts only does her well and makes her a stronger candidate.

Sanders has no apparent priorities beyond damaging the Democratic Party. He certainly never thought out any details for his great big ideas. How exactly does that help anyone except Crump or Truz? Fortunately, he’s failed.

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:34:42pm

Alright…got some ribs to care for.

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gocart mozart  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:34:49pm
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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:34:58pm

re: #234 darthstar

But she would be fighting image without having a few months of talking ideas if she didn’t have a primary challenge. I don’t see why that’s so difficult to understand.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but because you made it up out of whole cloth.

Did Obama have any trouble dispatching Romney four years ago because he didn’t face a primary challenge? How about Bill Clinton against Dole?

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:37:50pm

re: #236 ObserverArt

What Georgia poll horrified Sander supporters?

This one. Hillary by thirteen. Granted, it’s from a Democratic polling firm, but still it shows that Hillary can easily afford a Naderite insurrection.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:38:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:38:21pm
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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:39:44pm

re: #247 Stanley Sea

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Which is why, for the most part, I ignore most of the primary crap.

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Jenner7  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:39:57pm

Bernie has THE worst surrogates. They are doing him a huge disservice and he isn’t helping by keeping them on the trail.

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BeachDem  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:41:02pm

re: #234 darthstar

I admired her after that eleven hour hearing. I thought she did great. But that was just a one day witch hunt (that failed miserably).

This line made me laugh.

The witch hunt went on for a lot longer than those eleven hours—more like 2 years and five committees.

It’s a hunting mission for a lynch mob actually, I think that’s what’s going on. There have been four major reports, we spent a year and a half on a report. We held hearings, thousands of pages were reviewed, the staff spent hours and weeks on it.”

Dianne Feinstein, Democrat from California, chair Senate Intelligence Committee

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:41:49pm

re: #246 Brian J.

This one. Hillary by thirteen. Granted, it’s from a Democratic polling firm, but still it shows that Hillary can easily afford a Naderite insurrection.

That article makes an interesting point: Imagine having Bill Clinton, Barack, and Michelle helping you GOTV.

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gocart mozart  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:42:15pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:42:52pm

If you think being an un-American redneck is hard, try giving up smoking for a month

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:43:01pm

re: #252 Belafon

That article makes an interesting point: Imagine having Bill Clinton, Barack, and Michelle helping you GOTV.

Exactly. (And don’t forget Biden!) And the Republicans will counter with whom? W? Rubio? Kasich? Cheney? GHW Bush in his wheelchair?

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:43:38pm

Oops, meant to add this to my last comment

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:46:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:46:50pm
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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:46:58pm

I am not saying that it is sexist to think that a strong primary challenger has helped Hillary Clinton re-hone her skills and prepare for the general. I am also not saying that Sanders, or any specific supporter of his, has said those things as a sexist dog-whistle. Let me be clear about that.

But it should not come as a surprise if many Clinton supporters (particularly but not exclusively women) might hear these sorts of claims, claims that I don’t remember having been made about any male candidate, and interpret them in a sexist light. The Sanders campaign’s apparent inability to recognize or understand these second-order effects* is kind of damning, particularly in light of the fact that he would be running the first nakedly socialist serious campaign for the first time in generations. He needs to be demonstrating fabulous message discipline right now, and it’s just not there at all. Not in the least.

* see also too: why won’t black people recognize that Sanders is better for them, are we just not educating them well enough about his policies?!

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Brian J.  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:48:52pm

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

Here is your Amazeballs Science Accomplishment for the evening==>

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I happened to think of this old Super Bowl ad from 2000 (the voices have been dropped out). A lot of people objected to it as being too manipulative and indirectly related to the sponsor’s business. And now it just might happen, even if Mr. Reeve won’t see it.

Christopher Reeve Superbowl commercial

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:50:37pm

re: #259 Testy Toad T

The simple fact is that sexism and racism are deeply ingrained in American society, and that’s why politicians exploit these ugly prejudices. Because it helps them get elected.

There are a lot of bad people out there, with bad thoughts in their heads.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:51:32pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

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Poor dear

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ObserverArt  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:52:49pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

The simple fact is that sexism and racism are deeply ingrained in American society, and that’s why politicians exploit these ugly prejudices. Because it helps them get elected.

There are a lot of bad people out there, with bad thoughts in their heads.

Yep. And we have candidates and media giving them attention and outlets.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:54:45pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

The simple fact is that sexism and racism are deeply ingrained in American society, and that’s why politicians exploit these ugly prejudices. Because it helps them get elected.

There are a lot of bad people out there, with bad thoughts in their heads.

Yes, definitely.

But what I’m trying to get at is that messaging in American politics is not a level playing field. It’s a putting green at best, with subtle hills and valleys, ebbs and flows. If you’re claiming you’re preparing to run a very unusual campaign, you need to show me you can read that green like a champ, or you need to have a hell of a caddy.

And then poor Bernie goes and hires this boorish dipshit Jeff Weaver.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:54:47pm

More on that hazmat incident near University of Texas in Austin earlier today:
One dead, 11 injured in gas leak near UT

One person was dead and 11 others were injured Wednesday afternoon after a poisonous gas leaked at high-rise apartments near the University of the Texas campus.

Authorities said the name of the dead man, who was in his 20s, was being withheld pending notification of next of kin. Attempts to resuscitate him at the scene were unsuccessful, fire officials said.

Austin Fire Department Batallion Chief Palmer Buck said fire units were called to the 21 Pearl Apartments in the West Campus neighborhood about 3:20 p.m. after residents reported finding a man unconscious and a strong odor permeating parts of the 136-unit building.

Officials said the odor appeared to be hydrogen sulfide, a chemical that can release fatal fumes.

snip

Buck said a warning sign was found outside the dead man’s apartment that read: “Stay out. H2S” - the chemical symbol for hydrogen sulfide.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:56:00pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

More on that hazmat incident near University of Texas in Austin earlier today:
One dead, 11 injured in gas leak near UT

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So very sloppy suicide that poisoned his neighbors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:56:28pm

re: #266 No Country For Old Haters

So very sloppy suicide that poisoned his neighbors.

Appears to be.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:58:23pm
The Trump campaign is getting serious
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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:58:28pm

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Appears to be.

So young to die. Depression sucks almost as much as cancer. They both kill.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 6:58:47pm

Some of you might find this survey from November of interest as it covers American attitudes towards Jews & Israel as well as Muslims & Islam (the odd part being that people seem to have a largely favorable opinion of Muslim people (67% favorable, 31% unfavorable) while holding a largely unfavorable view of the religion of Islam (37% favorable, 61% unfavorable).

How does that work? Is it like, “Oh, we like you guys just fine, but we’d like you even better if you stopped that whole ‘Islam is our religion’ thing.” O_o

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:02:27pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

More on that hazmat incident near University of Texas in Austin earlier today:
One dead, 11 injured in gas leak near UT

snip

I wonder why the hell the injured people did not get the hell out from the stench of rotten eggs. Those apartments may not be livable for a while.

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Bear  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:05:29pm

Lawhawk
Thanks for the pictures.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:06:21pm

re: #271 BlueSpotinAL

I wonder why the hell the injured people did not get the hell out from the stench of rotten eggs. Those apartments may not be livable for a while.

It would have been very mild at first, gradually building up, and would be much worse in the hall than in other apartments. They probably were mostly poisoned as they evacuated.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:07:56pm

re: #271 BlueSpotinAL

I wonder why the hell the injured people did not get the hell out from the stench of rotten eggs. Those apartments may not be livable for a while.

IIRC, hydrogen sulfide has a strong odor, but a heavy concentration anesthetizes the sense of smell rather quickly—thus it’s rated as having “poor warning characteristics”.

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:09:20pm

re: #274 Decatur Deb

IIRC, hydrogen sulfide has a strong odor, but a heavy concentration anesthetizes the sense of smell rather quickly—thus it’s rated as having “poor warning characteristics”.

I was about to post the same thing. Fortunately I checked the new posts before I did.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:10:53pm

re: #270 CuriousLurker

BTW, I found that survey via this article about mosque growth in the U.S. You guys are SO screwed—creeping Sharia is creeping. // Mwahahaha…

Emphasis added:

WASHINGTON (Sinclair Broadcast Group) — The religious landscape in the United States is changing.

Islam is now among the fastest growing religions in America and it has led to a construction boom of mosques.

Mosques are not as ubiquitous as Starbucks or Mcdonald’s but they are now sewn into America’s landscape.

Religion expert Dan Cox says surveys show few Americans, three out of ten have met a person of the muslim faith.

“That represents something new and I think for some people, represents a threat,” he said.

Construction of mosques is soaring, especially in America’s suburbs. Tghe [sic] number has more than doubled since 2000, up from about 1200 houses of Islamic worship to an estimated 2600 today. […]

Annnnd that’s it for me for tonight. My brain is toast.

Later, lizards.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:10:58pm

re: #274 Decatur Deb

IIRC, hydrogen sulfide has a strong odor, but a heavy concentration anesthetizes the sense of smell rather quickly—thus it’s rated as having “poor warning characteristics”.

re: #275 calochortus

I was about to post the same thing. Fortunately I checked the new posts before I did.

LGF comments, in contrast, apparently have excellent warning characteristics.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:12:08pm

re: #273 No Country For Old Haters

It’s also well known that H2S beyond a certain concentration numbs your olfactory senses very quickly. It’s quite a steep gradient between “rotten eggs smell” and death.

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:12:53pm

re: #243 darthstar

Alright…got some ribs to care for.

Okay…ribs basted, spuds in the oven…okay…who was talking out their ass again? Oh yeah…that would be me.

I know almost everyone disagrees with me. And I wish I could get over my distrust of Hillary, but it’s there and it’s visceral. I know she’ll probably be fine as POTUS. I just can’t get over the gut feeling I have whenever I listen to her that she’s bullshitting me.

I’ll get over it. And I don’t go around trashing Hillary online because there are enough assholes doing that. I prefer to keep believing Bernie will somehow pull off a miracle and everyone will come around and see that he’s who we need as president. But I’ve always been a bit of a Pollyanna.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:13:32pm

De Kolta Chair’s Book of the Month Club picks:

And Bonus Song of the Month: Merle Haggard covering Red Simpson’s “Bill Woods from Bakersfield,” in tribute to a damn fine git-box player

Merle Haggard - Bill Woods From Bakersfield

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:13:35pm

re: #276 CuriousLurker

BTW, I found that survey via this article about mosque growth in the U.S. You guys are SO screwed—creeping Sharia is creeping. // Mwahahaha…

Emphasis added:

Annnnd that’s it for me for tonight. My brain is toast.

Later, lizards.

Yeah, someone posted a scary statistic about the number of mosques in Calif. on a conservative site. I had to point out that something like 550 mosques kind of pales in comparison to the 22,000+ churches…

Nonetheless, I am relying on knowing you to save me from some kind of horrible fate.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:14:11pm

re: #273 No Country For Old Haters

It would have been very mild at first, gradually building up, and would be much worse in the hall than in other apartments. They probably were mostly poisoned as they evacuated.

Would he have placed the H2S in the apt, or is it the gas from the oven?

/zero chemistry knowledge

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:14:14pm

re: #277 Testy Toad T

LGF comments, in contrast, apparently have excellent warning characteristics.

If we are alert enough to read the signs. Or the posts.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:14:47pm

Chuck C. Johnson is now taking credit for the Florida state’s attorney’s decision not to prosecute Corey Lewandowski for assaulting Michelle Fields.

Because of course he is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:15:23pm

re: #282 Stanley Sea

Would he have placed the H2S in the apt, or is it the gas from the oven?

/zero chemistry knowledge

He had a warning sign on his door.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:16:42pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

He had a warning sign on his door.

But where did the poison gas come from?

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Archangelus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:16:43pm

re: #253 gocart mozart

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Bleh, ‘Ted Cruz’ and ‘genitals’ should not be together in any sentence, in any language…

…OK, perhaps if it involves the word ‘kicked” as well…

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CriticalDragon1177  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:17:03pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

It’s not merely “Un-American” it is a symbol of ACTIVE TREASON against the United States.

True, excellent point. The Southerners who support flying the flag through will just claim that its a part of their heritage and that banning the Confederate flag is a violation of their free speech.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:17:46pm
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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:18:56pm

re: #282 Stanley Sea

Would he have placed the H2S in the apt, or is it the gas from the oven?

/zero chemistry knowledge

He would have generated it in the apartment. The rotten egg smell from natural gas is mercaptan which is put in there to warn you of gas leaks since natural gas is odorless.

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Archangelus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:19:13pm

I’ve always maintained that if the confederacy and its so-called ideals of hate and slavery are part of someone’s heritage, then their heritage isn’t worth preserving….

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Jenner7  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:19:42pm

Yup.

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:20:23pm

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

BTW, the guy, Paul Song, has apologized.

americablog.com

But even Aravosis gives Bernie credit for the quote in his headline. This is the kind of shit that doesn’t help anyone - not even Hillary.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:20:41pm

re: #286 Stanley Sea

But where did the poison gas come from?

Hydrogen sulfide is most commonly obtained by its separation from sour gas, which is natural gas with high content of H
2S. It can also be produced by reacting hydrogen gas with molten elemental sulfur at about 450 °C. Hydrocarbons can replace hydrogen in this process.[12]

Sulfate-reducing (resp. sulfur-reducing) bacteria generate usable energy under low-oxygen conditions by using sulfates (resp. elemental sulfur) to oxidize organic compounds or hydrogen; this produces hydrogen sulfide as a waste product.

The standard lab preparation is to react ferrous sulfide (FeS) with a strong acid in a Kipp generator:

FeS + 2 HCl → FeCl2 + H2S
A less well-known and more convenient alternative is to react aluminium sulfide with water:[13]

6 H2O + Al2S3 → 3 H2S + 2 Al(OH)3
This gas is also produced by heating sulfur with solid organic compounds and by reducing sulfurated organic compounds with hydrogen.

Hydrogen sulfide production can be costly because of the dangers involved in production.

Water heaters can aid the conversion of sulfate in water to hydrogen sulfide gas. This is due to providing a warm environment sustainable for sulfur bacteria and maintaining the reaction which interacts between sulfate in the water and the water heater anode, which is usually made from magnesium metal.[14]

en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:20:46pm

re: #286 Stanley Sea

But where did the poison gas come from?

According to Reuters:

Austin firefighters responded to a hazardous materials call from an apartment at the complex and found a man believed to be in his 20s dead at the scene, said Austin Fire Department Lieutenant Kevin Haas.

Haas said the initial investigation determined that the release of the chemical was deemed “an intentional act,” and was being investigated as a suicide.

It was unclear where the gas came from, although Haas said the victim likely released it from a container brought into the apartment.

reuters.com

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:21:27pm

re: #290 calochortus

He would have generated it in the apartment. The rotten egg smell from natural gas is mercaptan which is put in there to warn you of gas leaks since natural gas is odorless.

And you can produce hydrogen sulfide by mixing various easily available household chemicals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:22:03pm

re: #293 darthstar

BTW, the guy, Paul Song, has apologized.

americablog.com

But even Aravosis gives Bernie credit for the quote in his headline. This is the kind of shit that doesn’t help anyone - not even Hillary.

Yes, I posted a couple of Dr. Song’s apology tweets earlier in this thread.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:22:28pm

re: #291 Archangelus

I’ve always maintained that if the confederacy and its so-called ideals are part of someone’s heritage, then their heritage isn’t worth preserving….

If it were all about your heritage, you’d think I’d at least occasionally see pickups with rear window decals of the battle standard of the Army of Northern Virginia, or the Army of Arkansas, or the Army of Tennessee. Since, y’know, it was all about states’ rights, and putting state before nation, as Mr. Lee so graciously explained.

And yet… huh. Ain’t no such thang. How curious.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:22:28pm

re: #290 calochortus

He would have generated it in the apartment. The rotten egg smell from natural gas is mercaptan which is put in there to warn you of gas leaks since natural gas is odorless.

Ah, so he basically turned on the gas at full blast.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:22:37pm

re: #284 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson is now taking credit for the Florida state’s attorney’s decision not to prosecute Corey Lewandowski for assaulting Michelle Fields.

Because of course he is.

Natch, but will Chucky Cheesey take credit for Florida going underwater? //

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CriticalDragon1177  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:22:40pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

re: #248 Charles Johnson

Charles how is it that you keep coming across all these racist nitwits? Too bad they don’t sell bigoted loser repellent.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:23:23pm

re: #291 Archangelus

I’ve always maintained that if the confederacy and its so-called ideals of hate and slavery are part of someone’s heritage, then their heritage isn’t worth preserving….

Embedded Image

That is so being ironed on to a t-shirt first thing in the morning. Thanks!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:24:00pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to Reuters:

reuters.com

OK, getting more clear here. He brought it in, it wasn’t just his gas stove turned up to max.

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:24:18pm

re: #299 Stanley Sea

No he probably mixed chemicals to create the H2S

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:25:33pm

Joe Paterno’s trending.

lol

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Archangelus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:25:48pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:26:25pm

re: #304 calochortus

No he probably mixed chemicals to create the H2S

Or got it from a lab in a lecture bottle, if he had access.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:26:33pm

re: #304 calochortus

No he probably mixed chemicals to create the H2S

A less well-known and more convenient alternative is to react aluminium sulfide with water

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:27:27pm

re: #308 No Country For Old Haters

I’ll be sure to remember that. Except that I don’t want to poison myself or others.

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Archangelus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:27:57pm

re: #302 De Kolta Chair

That is so being ironed on to a t-shirt first thing in the morning. Thanks!

You’re most welcome! :)

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:28:27pm

re: #309 calochortus

I’ll be sure to remember that. Except that I don’t want to poison myself or others.

Then you’ll want to stay away from sour oil wells and septic tanks.

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Kilroy01  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:28:51pm

re: #163 Testy Toad T

Who the fuck is Tim Robbins?

Way late but I think this explains:
Team America - Corporations

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Testy Toad T  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:28:58pm

re: #309 calochortus

I’ll be sure to remember that. Except that I don’t want to poison myself or others.

re: #311 Decatur Deb

Then you’ll want to stay away from sour oil wells and septic tanks.

and #tcot

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:29:19pm

I just made the mistake of looking out the front window and seeing both of my cats crossing the street. Freaked me the fuck out. I went out and stood crossing guard since calling them in is senseless.

Here they are enjoying a home office day with me today…happiest three hours of my day, having them sleep beside me while I worked. Even left the TV off so I wouldn’t disturb them.

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:30:28pm

re: #308 No Country For Old Haters

Upon reflection, I think my husband and friends used that to exact revenge on a crooked game at a fair when they were teenagers. They sprinkled some aluminum sulfate in front of the booth (outdoors, obviously) and in a humid climate it started to produce a little H2S, so the guy did what anyone would, tried to wash it down…
Apparently it wasn’t good for his business.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:30:29pm

re: #281 calochortus

Yeah, someone posted a scary statistic about the number of mosques in Calif. on a conservative site. I had to point out that something like 550 mosques kind of pales in comparison to the 22,000+ churches…

Nonetheless, I am relying on knowing you to save me from some kind of horrible fate.

Yeah, you’re still pretty safe as according to the article the ratio of mosques:Muslims still can’t beat churches:Christians (1:1,562 vs 1:524). Don’t worry though, I’ll save ya if things get really dicey. ;-)

Over & out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:30:40pm

re: #314 darthstar

Just remember, cats have been known to leave dead mice in yer boots…

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:31:04pm

re: #311 Decatur Deb

Then you’ll want to stay away from sour oil wells and septic tanks.

re: #313 Testy Toad T

and #tcot

I already do all that.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:31:12pm

So today I splurged & got 2 Egyptian bath towels for 75.00 via Amazon/LGF. They had better be luxe.

I got a large Amazon gift card for Christmas & I’m slowly deciding what special treats to spend it on. I’ll report back.

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:31:45pm

re: #314 darthstar

The whiter one is Conan (aka Coco) and the other is Craig - who also goes by Shark Gable…he likes to lay on his back and get belly rubs - and he gets that shark mouth look.

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:31:56pm

re: #316 CuriousLurker

Yeah, you’re still pretty safe as according to the article the ratio of mosques:Muslims still can’t beat churches:Christians (1:1,562 vs 1:524). Don’t worry though, I’ll save ya if things get really dicey. ;-)

Over & out.

Knew I could depend on you.

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:32:29pm

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just remember, cats have been known to leave dead mice in yer boots…

My last tuxedo woke me up and dropped a live one on my chest one night. That was exciting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:33:20pm

re: #319 Stanley Sea

So today I splurged & got 2 Egyptian bath towels for 75.00 via Amazon/LGF. They had better be luxe.

I got some of those. They are great!
Hint for washing them: don’t use fabric softener or dyer sheets. Instead put about a half cup of vinegar in the fabric softener dispenser in your washer.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:34:09pm

re: #320 darthstar

The whiter one is Conan (aka Coco) and the other is Craig - who also goes by Shark Gable…he likes to lay on his back and get belly rubs - and he gets that shark mouth look.

I thought one of em had a twitter bird mark on the head. At least it looked like it in a photo you posted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:34:31pm

re: #322 darthstar

My last tuxedo woke me up and dropped a live one on my chest one night. That was exciting.

I found the latest “present” as I was putting on my boot on Monday morning…

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:34:36pm

re: #312 Kilroy01

Way late but I think this explains:
[Embedded content]

Video

Peter Jennings… that name brings back memories of… I believe it was called “television journalism.”

And Jennings worked under Roone “The Hack AntiChrist” Arledge. Peter must’ve had balls the size of Toronto’s CN Tower.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:34:47pm

Ted Cruz is so motherfucking loathsome.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:35:28pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got some of those. They are great!
Hint for washing them: don’t use fabric softener or dyer sheets. Instead put about a half cup of vinegar in the fabric softener dispenser in your washer.

TY!!

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:35:55pm

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

I found the latest “present” as I was putting on my boot on Monday morning…

I packed you lunch. Don’t waste it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:36:41pm

re: #328 Stanley Sea

TY!!

You’re welcome.
For some reason, fabric softeners build up on towels and eventually they loose their awesome towel drying powers.

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Archangelus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:39:05pm

...

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:39:33pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’re welcome.
For some reason, fabric softeners build up on towels and eventually they loose their awesome towel drying powers.

I don’t use fabric softener anyway. I do have vinegar though.

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darthstar  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:40:01pm

Okay…Craig came back inside…so now I’m only half panicked. Conan, if he ate recently, probably won’t be back until morning. Beautiful little fucker.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:42:07pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got some of those. They are great!
Hint for washing them: don’t use fabric softener or dyer sheets. Instead put about a half cup of vinegar in the fabric softener dispenser in your washer.

Wool dryer balls!!

(I’d post a link but I’d need to delete my AmazonSmile cookies to get rid of my info)

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ObserverArt  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:42:46pm

re: #270 CuriousLurker

Some of you might find this survey from November of interest as it covers American attitudes towards Jews & Israel as well as Muslims & Islam (the odd part being that people seem to have a largely favorable opinion of Muslim people (67% favorable, 31% unfavorable) while holding a largely unfavorable view of the religion of Islam (37% favorable, 61% unfavorable).

How does that work? Is it like, “Oh, we like you guys just fine, but we’d like you even better if you stopped that whole ‘Islam is our religion’ thing.” O_o

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It works because of the “Christian Nation” filter so many Americans see things through. They can see people, they have a hard time understanding a religion. Add in the way politicians and media have played on the religion and you can see how it works in their heads.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:42:59pm

...

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:43:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:43:45pm

gonna find a leaf and get some sleep with the furkids.
niterz, lizardz!

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Joe Bacon  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:44:06pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

[Embedded content]

I beg to differ.
My premiums went DOWN!
My copays went DOWN!
I can access MORE services.
I now have a discount when I need new glasses.
My lab tests now cost ZERO!
My diabetic test strips, lances and meters cost ZERO!
My IVs needed to fight RA copay is DOWN to $10.
If I’m unable to cook, I can now access a meal service.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT FOR FIGHTING FOR THIS AND…

FUCK THE REPUBLICANS WHO WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY!!!!!!!

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:47:09pm

re: #339 Joe Bacon

I beg to differ.
My premiums went DOWN!
My copays went DOWN!
I can access MORE services.
I now have a discount when I need new glasses.
My lab tests now cost ZERO!
My diabetic test strips, lances and meters cost ZERO!
My IVs needed to fight RA copay is DOWN to $10.
If I’m unable to cook, I can now access a meal service.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT FOR FIGHTING FOR THIS AND…

FUCK THE REPUBLICANS WHO WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY!!!!!!!

(ahem. fuck the fake democrats who want to take it away too. It was a Bernie guy who said that)

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:47:38pm

re: #327 teleskiguy

Ted Cruz is so motherfucking loathsome.

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That would explain the bad run of family PR photos.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:49:12pm

re: #337 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Funny joke, but can Trump rockabilly 1/1,000,000th as much as the great Wayne Cochran? ;-)

Wayne Cochran - Liza Jane - Rockabilly 45

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:49:13pm

Looks like Twitter is having some issues with embedded tweets tonight.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:49:59pm

re: #340 stpaulbear

(ahem. fuck the fake democrats who want to take it away too)

If that FAKE DEMOCRAT takes my health care away he’s gonna feel the BURN IN A CERTAIN SPOT!

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:50:04pm

re: #331 Archangelus

“Dear alien abductors from outer space - any chance you could pick up THIS particular specimen? We won’t mind, honest!”

The aliens would say that we just THOUGHT Ted Cruz was from Canada, they really unloaded him onto our planet.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:50:05pm

I just lost connection to twitter.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:50:18pm

re: #341 Decatur Deb

That would explain the bad run of family PR photos.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:50:35pm

I think Twitter is down.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:50:44pm

re: #343 Charles Johnson

Looks like Twitter is having some issues with embedded tweets tonight.

Embedded tweets are nothing but whores!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:51:13pm

re: #251 BeachDem

This line made me laugh.

The witch hunt went on for a lot longer than those eleven hours—more like 2 years and five committees.

I also can’t help but notice that the Republicans and their Super PACs haven’t run a single ad against Sanders. They’re deliberately holding their fire and absolutely salivating at the prospect of running against him.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:51:15pm

re: #348 teleskiguy

I think Twitter is down.

Yep. Twitter is down.

My head is on fire!
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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:51:16pm

re: #348 teleskiguy

I think Twitter is down.

The ghost of Joe Paterno

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Joe Bacon  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:52:11pm

re: #347 teleskiguy

Embedded Image

That grin on his face reminds me of Pee Wee doing the dingle dangle in the Porn Theater….

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:52:20pm

THE FAIL WHALE WILL NOT BE DENIED

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:52:24pm

re: #351 teleskiguy

Yep. Twitter is down.

Image: My head is on fire!

Can you imagine the melt down if it was down for say, 12 hours?

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:52:40pm

re: #352 Stanley Sea

The ghost of Joe Paterno

I would embed some relevant tweets, but, y’know, Twitter’s hamsters are on strike right now.

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Maddies Mom  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:54:47pm

re: #314 darthstar

I just made the mistake of looking out the front window and seeing both of my cats crossing the street. Freaked me the fuck out. I went out and stood crossing guard since calling them in is senseless.

Here they are enjoying a home office day with me today…happiest three hours of my day, having them sleep beside me while I worked. Even left the TV off so I wouldn’t disturb them.

[Embedded content]

Are their names Yin & Yang?

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:55:53pm

re: #339 Joe Bacon

Umm, yeah. My insurance costs do go up each year, but now it is by a little bit, not 10% or so. And you know what, I’m happy that people with preexisting conditions won’t be bankrupted by not being able to get insurance.

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ObserverArt  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:57:00pm

re: #279 darthstar

Okay…ribs basted, spuds in the oven…okay…who was talking out their ass again? Oh yeah…that would be me.

I know almost everyone disagrees with me. And I wish I could get over my distrust of Hillary, but it’s there and it’s visceral. I know she’ll probably be fine as POTUS. I just can’t get over the gut feeling I have whenever I listen to her that she’s bullshitting me.

I’ll get over it. And I don’t go around trashing Hillary online because there are enough assholes doing that. I prefer to keep believing Bernie will somehow pull off a miracle and everyone will come around and see that he’s who we need as president. But I’ve always been a bit of a Pollyanna.

Admit it. You are a bit of an old surfer hippie. Nothing wrong with that. I have a little in my background…except for the surf. More artist hippie-ish in outlook.

I agree Bernie helped with the economics awareness. I like that, but I have learned in the last few months while the concepts might be there, I doubt he could pull any of it off. He just is too ideal with little practical answer for this time in our country. That would be a leap too big for too many politicians and the RWNJs.

I also think you have been victimized by Hillary’s packed bags. It is easy to get sick of hearing it, but don’t let that get in the way because so much of it has been blown way out of proportion.

Remember…a whole RWNJ Hate Industry was formed and matured by Bill and Hillary. Their might not even be a Fox, Rush, Glenn, etc. if not for The Clintons.

That which makes you stronger…is how I look at it. That is why I called her a honey badger. She don’t give a shit.

And she has wanted this from the beginning. Her whole career has been a preparation. I think that helps a lot for the crap a “first woman president” will get should she become elected. It’s time.

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scottslemmons  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:57:05pm

re: #348 teleskiguy

I think Twitter is down.

THE VENGEANCE OF THE GINGER POOPER

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:59:16pm

re: #360 scottslemmons

THE VENGEANCE OF THE GINGER POOPER

Click to Reveal
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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:59:22pm

re: #358 calochortus

Umm, yeah. My insurance costs do go up each year, but now it is by a little bit, not 10% or so. And you know what, I’m happy that people with preexisting conditions won’t be bankrupted by not being able to get insurance.

In that vein, my company has been paying for my Kaiser. We just switched to Humana & I have my Kaiser till 4/30. I have been going in for every preventative test known to woman the last 2 weeks. Because Kaiser is such a one stop shop place I’ll have all my current records & tests ready to transfer to a new doc & if there’s anything pre-existing, it won’t matter.

That’s a big fucking deal.

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Archangelus  Apr 13, 2016 • 7:59:55pm

re: #355 Stanley Sea

Can you imagine the melt down if it was down for say, 12 hours?

I can just about imagine the Lesser Johnson’s deranged detached gloating (and claiming of responsibility)…

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:02:24pm

HAS IT BEEN 20 MINUTES

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Archangelus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:02:48pm

re: #361 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

I clicked ‘reveal’. WHY OH WHY did I click reveal?! /kinda

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:04:33pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

HAS IT BEEN 20 MINUTES

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:06:54pm

re: #354 Charles Johnson

THE FAIL WHALE WILL NOT BE DENIED

Jack Ziegler
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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:14:49pm

re: #365 Archangelus

I clicked ‘reveal’. WHY OH WHY did I click reveal?! /kinda

Embedded Image

Whatever you do, don’t click on the image, it’ll *gasp* zoom in!

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:17:03pm

It’s times like these that I realize that I look at twitter dot com freaking constantly.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:20:08pm
When last seen, Chuck C. Johnson was stalking Roger Corman. Just saying.
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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:24:09pm

re: #369 teleskiguy

It’s times like these that I realize that I look at twitter dot com freaking constantly.

This is bad. People are for real tripping.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:25:06pm

wait, it’s working on my phone.

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:26:54pm
374
Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:27:52pm

Help.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:28:09pm

re: #371 Stanley Sea

How do you know? They can’t be tweeting about it! ;)

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:29:23pm

re: #374 Gus

Help.

I just cleared my history & logged back into twitter.

Something happened with Chrome having it on a loop being down.

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:29:53pm

Evening folks. Twitter’s down and I’m having social media withdrawal symptoms so I thought I’d swing by after probably at least two years.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:30:04pm

It got Gus back for a sec.

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:30:11pm

re: #377 Gus

Evening folks. Twitter’s down and I’m having social media withdrawal symptoms so I thought I’d swing by after probably at least two years.

Nice to see you.

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:30:28pm

re: #378 Stanley Sea

It got Gus back for a sec.

Is it. Yeah, was trying that. Getting annoying waiting for it to come back up.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:30:29pm

re: #377 Gus

Evening folks. Twitter’s down and I’m having social media withdrawal symptoms so I thought I’d swing by after probably at least two years.

did you see my post above? It will fix it I think. I’m back up.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:30:39pm

re: #371 Stanley Sea

This is God’s way of telling you that you should play more solitaire.

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mmmirele  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:31:18pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I lived next door to what became that apartment complex from 1981-1987ish. It was and is a co-op house.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:31:19pm

re: #374 Gus

Help.

Heh! Twitter goes down, and look who the cat drags in.

Hi Gus!

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Tigger2  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:31:21pm

re: #377 Gus

Evening folks. Twitter’s down and I’m having social media withdrawal symptoms so I thought I’d swing by after probably at least two years.

I’m on twitter now

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:31:37pm

re: #381 Stanley Sea

did you see my post above? It will fix it I think. I’m back up.

Tried that. Gets me to the front page again but won’t log in.

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:31:42pm

Firefox on Linux. I’m having no trouble accessing Twitter.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:31:46pm

‘Night all. And not to knock Pierre Salinger, but he does look a bit like Ted Cruz on this 1964 cover of Time magazine, and is that George Romney dancing a jig on the upper right corner? ////

Henry Luce was a total asshole.
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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:32:44pm

re: #386 Gus

Tried that. Gets me to the front page again but won’t log in.

Twitter sends me a text code to my phone that I had to enter. 234234

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:32:55pm

Could use a break from Twitter wars. :D

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:33:47pm

Something is technically wrong

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:34:42pm
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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:34:45pm

OK, back up. I’ll stick around here for a bit anyway. Was meaning to swing by anyway.

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:35:23pm

Wait. Still acting weird.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:35:30pm

re: #393 Gus

cool.

We miss you, but don’t you worry, we watch you on the twit.

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Tigger2  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:35:44pm

re: #393 Gus

OK, back up. I’ll stick around here for a bit anyway. Was meaning to swing by anyway.

Glad you did.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:36:13pm

OT: Gareth Thomas, the protagonist Roj Blake from Blake’s 7, dies, age 71.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:36:51pm

Twitter is working on Firefox and on my iPhone, not on Chrome. It’s going to be okay!

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Tigger2  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:37:41pm

re: #398 teleskiguy

Twitter is working on Firefox and on my iPhone, not on Chrome. It’s going to be okay!

Embedded Image

I’m using chrome and it working for me. Then again I’m not using my phone.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:37:56pm

You have to get rid of Chrome history & re-log in.

I had a problem with another website on chrome until I did that. It’s like the error loop that will not be forgotten.

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:38:03pm

TWITTER IS STILL DOWN FOR ME. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND WE MUST CHANGE IT. :D

402
Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:38:10pm

re: #399 Tigger2

I’m using chrome and it working for me.

Me too, back up on Chrome.

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:40:17pm

On and off here. Oh well. Illustrates the habitual nature of using Twitter. Like a drug.

404
Archangelus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:40:26pm

re: #368 teleskiguy

Whatever you do, don’t click on the image, it’ll *gasp* zoom in!

Your warning comes too late… far too late… *sobs hysterically*

405
De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:41:16pm

Whew, I thought I’d hallucinated this…

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calochortus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:41:35pm

Since I don’t Twit, the outage doesn’t affect me. However, I think I’ll call it a night.
Hasta mañana, Lizards.

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:41:47pm

In other Twitter news, Tim Robbins blocked me.

408
Archangelus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:42:36pm

re: #407 Gus

In other Twitter news, Tim Robbins blocked me.

I’d consider that a sign of a job well done…

409
BeachDem  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:42:57pm

re: #350 goddamnedfrank

I also can’t help but notice that the Republicans and their Super PACs haven’t run a single ad against Sanders. They’re deliberately holding their fire and absolutely salivating at the prospect of running against him.

I thought I heard that they were running PRO Sanders spots—hoping to get him as their opponent.

410
teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:43:03pm

re: #400 Stanley Sea

You have to get rid of Chrome history & re-log in.

I tried that, nothing. Working just fine in Firefox, however.

411
Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:43:59pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:44:40pm

re: #298 Testy Toad T

If it were all about your heritage, you’d think I’d at least occasionally see pickups with rear window decals of the battle standard of the Army of Northern Virginia, or the Army of Arkansas, or the Army of Tennessee. Since, y’know, it was all about states’ rights, and putting state before nation, as Mr. Lee so graciously explained.

And yet… huh. Ain’t no such thang. How curious.

An Internet acquaintance of mine put this up today. It’s making the share rounds among the Ars people.

Let’s talk about “Confederate Heritage” for a minute.

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:44:43pm
414
teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:44:44pm

Well, so much for that! It’s not working in Firefox.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:45:41pm

re: #410 teleskiguy

I tried that, nothing. Working just fine in Firefox, however.

hmmmmm

416
Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:46:07pm

This has been a really crazy primary.

417
Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:47:01pm
418
Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:47:06pm
419
Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:47:40pm
420
Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:48:10pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:49:33pm

Yeah, shit is super-intermittent on Twitter.

422
goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:52:01pm
423
Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:52:47pm

Gus? …. is that… you? Are my eyes deceiving me?

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:53:07pm

re: #423 Charles Johnson

Gus? …. is that… you? Are my eyes deceiving me?

Nah, it’s me. :D

425
Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:54:10pm
426
teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:55:04pm

re: #422 goddamnedfrank

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:55:33pm

Instagram

Jacob Leggette, 9, of Baltimore, Md., looks in amazement as President Barack Obama blows a bubble while visiting his science exhibit during the sixth and final, annual White House Science Fair at The White House on April 13, 2016 in Washington, D.C. The president celebrates with student competitors and winners from a broad range of science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) competitions. The event was the largest White House Science Fair to date, with more than 130 students from more than 30 states, as well as student alumni from each of the prior five White House Science Fairs. (Photo by @cariotir/The Washington Post)

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:57:02pm

Instagram

looking sad in your elephant disguise is great way to get delicatessens from the humans #maymo #maymoindisguise

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:57:05pm

re: #12 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m really at a loss as to why nobody seems to care that the Georgia state flag:

[Embedded content]

Because most people don’t identify the actual Stars and Bars as the Confederate Flag. To most people, the flag principally used by the Army of Northern Virginia is the Confederate Flag. That the Confederate Navy did not use that flag (because it could not be inverted to signal distress) is a bit of arcane trivia to the vast majority of Americans.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 13, 2016 • 8:59:10pm

For those interested, as of the 11:00 news the Kentucky General Assembly was reportedly close to a budget deal, but they may be at it until 3:00 a.m. If they don’t get a deal done by sunrise tomorrow, they won’t have time to print a budget to pass on the last day of the session, Friday. Since Governor Bevin has stated that he will not call a special session, this could potentially result in a shutdown of much of state government starting July 1 and lasting until the G.A. can pass a budget sometime next year.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:02:26pm

Flickr

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:02:30pm

Man, that was something. People were starting to go crazy. Hell, even Gus showed back up to share some of his great photoshops.

Like Stanley Sea said, what if Twitter were down for something like 12 hours?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:04:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:05:13pm
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Alyosha  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:05:16pm

Finally catch up with goings-on and now I gotta get back to work.
*pouts*

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:11:03pm

This shit will straight up haunt your dreams. Click at your own risk. NSFW.

Click to Reveal
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Great White Snark  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:13:46pm

re: #401 Gus

TWITTER IS STILL DOWN FOR ME. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND WE MUST CHANGE IT. :D

It’s just an artifact of the blue checkmark

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:13:55pm

First off Paterno shielded a child rapist.
Second he’s been dead for four years.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:14:43pm

re: #438 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

First off Paterno shielded a child rapist.
Second he’s been dead for four years.

BRING BACK ZOMBIE JOE!

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retired cynic  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:49:14pm

re: #430 Big Beautiful Door

For those interested, as of the 11:00 news the Kentucky General Assembly was reportedly close to a budget deal, but they may be at it until 3:00 a.m. If they don’t get a deal done by sunrise tomorrow, they won’t have time to print a budget to pass on the last day of the session, Friday. Since Governor Bevin has stated that he will not call a special session, this could potentially result in a shutdown of much of state government starting July 1 and lasting until the G.A. can pass a budget sometime next year.

You can join us in Illinois. GAH!!!

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:29:58pm

re: #228 darthstar

Yeah…that’s money the DNC could have used. Again, the primary isn’t the end of the world. Just look at the GOP. One of those assholes will be given 200 electoral votes out the gate and will be treated as a viable alternative to Hillary by the media as soon as he’s got the nomination.

The general is all about reinventing the candidate so there’s a close race. This election will be decided by states like VA, OH, PA, FL, CO, NM, WI, IA, and maybe AZ. Everything else is either Red or Blue.

Feigning outrage over a primary challenge that gave Hillary some practice responding to criticism she’ll face in the general is senseless.

Because if there’s one thing Hillary hasn’t had much practice at, it’s responding to criticism…

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darthstar  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:48:34am

re: #359 ObserverArt

Just don’t say ‘old surfer hippie’ like it’s a bad thing. :)

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:15:39am

re: #442 darthstar

Just don’t say ‘old surfer hippie’ like it’s a bad thing. :)

Never a bad thing!

Plus I like surf music…

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John Vreeland  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:43:36am

re: #12 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m really at a loss as to why nobody seems to care that the Georgia state flag:

Embedded Image

Is the actual Stars and Bars!:

Embedded Image

It is not celebrated as such, at least not as part of a revisionist history, nor has it been wielded as a symbol of racial oppression in the way others have. It’s kind of a neutral declaration that they were in the Confederacy and for good or ill that’s history. Perhaps it could be considered a badge of shame.
Ultimately, what a flag means is in the eye of the beholder.


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