Wednesday Night Acoustic Masterpiece: Jon Gomm, “Stupid Blues”

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Guitar Tab only available here: http://jongomm.com/guitar-tabs Transcribed by me, with detailed notes explaining every technique.

This is an instrumental tune called Stupid Blues, and it exists purely for the joy of playing.

This is the 4th release from the Live In The Acoustic Asylum series.

Video by Owen Plummer and Danielle Millea. Audio engineered/mixed by Ed Heaton and mastered by Hippocratic Mastering.
Guitar by Lowden. Strings by Newtone. Pickups by Fishman. Effects by Boss. Amps by Trace Acoustic. Tattoos by Noon. Face by my parents.

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278 comments
1
teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:29:25pm

Here’s a picture of me on Monday when I went backcountry skiing above Vail Pass. I’m on the left on the snowmobile.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:33:21pm
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:35:14pm

An Iraqi-manned M1A1 blows a Daesh (S)VBIED car away:

The nickname of that particular M1? The Beast.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:41:51pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

An Iraqi-manned M1A1 blows a Daesh (S)VBIED car away:.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:46:45pm

re: #4 De Kolta Chair

Hey, that’s a tank made in the ‘Murican Heartland blowing up a Terrorist Muslim driven Bomb Car, probably one made in Japan. If you won’t Fap to American Iron blowin’ up a Furrian Car, then that just means you’re a Libtard.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:51:41pm

Let’s do this thing!

;-P ;-)
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retired cynic  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:58:27pm

Speaking of guitars <grin>, Julian Lage was on Fresh Air today, and I really enjoyed that interview.

npr.org

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Gus  Apr 13, 2016 • 9:58:42pm

Thunder road.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:04:47pm

Hey Gus, go to Red Rocks for Umphrey’s McGee and Zappa Plays Zappa on 2 July. We’ll boogie!

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:06:26pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

An Iraqi-manned M1A1 blows a Daesh (S)VBIED car away:

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The nickname of that particular M1? The Beast.

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would post a response but I am tryihg to use a godd cursed ddelll lpatop andn cannot make the goddamn thing work. It randomly edits words, it takes 10 times as long to backspace and correct and you cannot scroll with out pekcing for mlinutes at a time. It is a worthless piece of shit.

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Lancelot Link  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:15:30pm

Here’s some more fancy guitar for you
Botswana Music Guitar - Ronnie -“Happy New Year”!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:18:14pm

So tonight official Sanders campaign surrogates have called Secretary Clinton a murderer and a whore.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:20:03pm

Mamba out.

Me too.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:27:24pm

Back with my phone now, which is also hard to use though much better than the Dell. Another attempt to scroll with the latter resulted in it changing the screen resolution and randomly opening another page.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:41:02pm

A couple of days ago I mentioned I had ordered a $30 50mm lens for my Nikon. It’s a Chinese brand (Vimica) and an AI lens (auto-indexing) so on my D3300 that means I focus and set the aperture manually, just like the old days.

Well, anyway, it arrived yesterday evening, and I took some photos with it. It had just rained, and the air is still foggy, so I focused on small stuff.

Droplets
Calendula
Violas
Rhododendrons
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retired cynic  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:42:16pm

re: #15 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Lovely!

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:43:35pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

On Monday when we were loading up the snowcat and sleds and shit on trailers one of my supervisors approached everybody (10 of us) and solicited money for fuel for the snowmachines. I gave a 10 spot. He gave the money to the trip organizer (the guy in green in Comment #1 in this thread) of this ski adventure and he turned it down. “Buy us beers at Mango’s [the closest bar from where we were at, 10 miles away] with that cash. ‘Bernie Sanders’ that cash, spread it around! Most of you guys are Bernie supporters, right?”

I walked up to the trip organizer and told him “I’m actually a Hillary supporter, but don’t tell anybody.” He laughed and vigorously shook my hand.

BTW, this is the machine six of the people in my party rode up in to go skiing on Monday (I took a snowmobile up).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:44:09pm

re: #16 retired cynic

Lovely!

Thanks!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:49:06pm

A lot of my students are bummed that Kobe’s retiring. I swear, Chinese NBA fans are just as rabid as the American ones.

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Jenner7  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:51:12pm

re: #19 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He had a great last game, 60 points. I respect him for staying with one team his whole career.

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Ubiq  Apr 13, 2016 • 10:52:16pm

The Bernie surrogate would like to stress that he didn’t meant to call Hillary a corporate Democratic whore, just Democratic congressmen in general.

You know, the superdelegates.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 13, 2016 • 11:01:44pm

re: #21 Ubiq

What does that make Senator Warren?

I know! If she doesn’t endorse Bernie, she’s the whore, right? Glad you cleared that up, Senator!
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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2016 • 11:17:01pm

re: #21 Ubiq

You know, the superdelegates.

Bernie Sanders *is* a superdelegate!

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William Lewis  Apr 13, 2016 • 11:17:44pm

re: #15 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

A couple of days ago I mentioned I had ordered a $30 50mm lens for my Nikon. It’s a Chinese brand (Vimica) and an AI lens (auto-indexing) so on my D3300 that means I focus and set the aperture manually, just like the old days.

Well, anyway, it arrived yesterday evening, and I took some photos with it. It had just rained, and the air is still foggy, so I focused on small stuff.

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Nice. I don’t suppose they make a cheap 25mm lens for Micro4/3? :)

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freetoken  Apr 13, 2016 • 11:52:56pm

MP3 Audio

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:10:08am

re: #17 teleskiguy

.

BTW, this is the machine six of the people in my party rode up in to go skiing on Monday (I took a snowmobile up).

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That looks exactly like the snowcat that took us up to the Mountaineer’s lodge. They hung a couple of towropes with a bunch of loops for handles off the back, and towed us a mile uphill like we were water skiing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:13:15am

re: #24 William Lewis

Nice. I don’t suppose they make a cheap 25mm lens for Micro4/3? :)

Seems they only do Nikon and Canon (D)SLR lenses. But I’ll check to be sure in a bit.

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:31:02am

re: #27 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Seems they only do Nikon and Canon (D)SLR lenses. But I’ll check to be sure in a bit.

No hurry. If they do make a cheap 25 for nikon though, I might have to mail you the money as I have an adapter for f mount lenses ;)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:39:22am

re: #28 William Lewis

No hurry. If they do make a cheap 25 for nikon though, I might have to mail you the money as I have an adapter for f mount lenses ;)

They have 50mm and 24mm AI lenses for Nikon mount. The 24mm f/2.8 sells for about $64 at current exchange rates. If you want it, you can PayPal me the money.

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:51:50am

re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They have 50mm and 24mm AI lenses for Nikon mount. The 24mm f/2.8 sells for about $64 at current exchange rates. If you want it, you can PayPal me the money.

Hmm, cheap enough for fun :) I’ll see if I can squeeze it from the 4/29 paycheck. Could you check the cost of shipping sometime when it is convenient for you?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:54:40am

re: #30 William Lewis

Hmm, cheap enough for fun :) I’ll see if I can squeeze it from the 4/29 paycheck. Could you check the cost of shipping sometime when it is convenient for you?

That’s the rub. It may double the price of the lens. You can try aliexpress.com — that’s the American version of taobao.com. They might have the lens and the shipping rates would be more reasonable.

Or, if you’re very very patient, you can wait till I am back in the USA during the summer, and I can post it from my daughter’s town.

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:19:08am

Glancing at the links I see lots of C mount lenses but none of the ones you’re looking at. I’ll probably go for patience down the road.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:49:47am

re: #32 William Lewis

Glancing at the links I see lots of C mount lenses but none of the ones you’re looking at. I’ll probably go for patience down the road.

OK

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Ming5000  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:12:45am

I liked the Jon Gomm piece. I am not familiar with the blues except through incidental exposure, like movies.
When do people listen to the blues?
The music does make me feel more introspective and mellow.
Ok, I just decided. Friday after work it is supposed to be around 60 degrees and sunny. I have a steak from the grill on my mind. The drink will be Manhattans.
I’ll set the Pandora to the blues and see how it goes.

My steak and a Manhattan on a good day
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:30:32am

Bernie Bros are killing it tonight.

It’s no wonder Sanders was so unprepared for the NYDN interview, the entire campaign from top to bottom runs on nothing but wishful thinking.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:35:05am

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

Bernie Bros are killing it tonight.

It’s no wonder Sanders was so unprepared for the NYDN interview, the entire campaign from top to bottom runs on nothing but wishful thinking.

Click your heels together three times and say, “There’s no one like Bernie. There’s no one like Bernie. There’s no one like Bernie.”

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:35:39am

re: #34 Ming5000

I liked the Jon Gomm piece. I am not familiar with the blues except through incidental exposure, like movies.
When do people listen to the blues?
The music does make me feel more introspective and mellow.
Ok, I just decided. Friday after work it is supposed to be around 60 degrees and sunny. I have a steak from the grill on my mind. The drink will be Manhattans.
I’ll set the Pandora to the blues and see how it goes.

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Oh, my.

Another universe may open for you. It’s not 100% certain, I do know people who aren’t moved by the blues. But I couldn’t stand to live without Robert Johnson, the Kings, Muddy Waters or any of a thousand others in my life.

Its a simple music, really, as simple as a heartbeat and as complex as a baby breathing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:36:59am

re: #36 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Click your heels together three times and say, “There’s no one like Bernie. There’s no one like Bernie. There’s no one like Bernie.”

In an ideal world, Bernie would be my candidate. But in the unpleasant, morally compromised real world we occupy, HRC remains the best choice among the candidate available.

Besides, in a truly ideal world, we would not need someone like Bernie

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:38:41am

re: #37 William Lewis

Oh, my.

Another universe may open for you. It’s not 100% certain, I do know people who aren’t moved by the blues. But I couldn’t stand to live without Robert Johnson, the Kings, Muddy Waters or any of a thousand others in my life.

Its a simple music, really, as simple as a heartbeat and as complex as a baby breathing.

Funny, even though I grew up around Chicago, I really did not develop an ear for the blues until I heard it processed through British bands like Cream, Ten Years After, Led Zeppelin or early Fleetwood Mac.

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Ming5000  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:40:30am

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

Bernie Bros are killing it tonight.

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It’s no wonder Sanders was so unprepared for the NYDN interview, the entire campaign from top to bottom runs on nothing but wishful thinking.

I believe his connection with people allowed the left’s message to be heard in a new way to people not willing to listen before.
If he had just stuck with his message he probably would have done even better in the primaries.
But now, he is going to be so forgotten after the primary is over. He squandered all of the good will he had achieved with his non-acolytes.

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Ming5000  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:42:42am

re: #37 William Lewis

Thanks for the recommendations. I’ll give it an earnest try!

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:57:05am

re: #41 Ming5000

Thanks for the recommendations. I’ll give it an earnest try!

Ah let me add then that the kings are three separate, unrelated, performers: Freddy King, Albert King and B. B. King.

Enjoy!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:58:49am

re: #42 William Lewis

Ah let me add then that the kings are three separate, unrelated, performers: Freddy King, Albert King and B. B. King.

Enjoy!

not to mention King Crimson, the Rhythm Kings, Elvis: The King and those of Leon

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:00:35am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Funny, even though I grew up around Chicago, I really did not develop an ear for the blues until I heard it processed through British bands like Cream, Led Zeppelin or early Fleetwood Mac.

I understand. For me it was seeing Stevie Ray Vaughan live the only time he played in Eau Claire. Made me want to understand where that pain and beauty came from.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:27:59am

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

Bernie Bros are killing it tonight.

50K in Washington Park. That’s how.

That’s how we made Jon Stewart president, and Colbert the VP.

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Alyosha  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:02:54am

I won’t express an opinion on the initiating ‘whore’ slur; one, because it’s not really my fight; and, two, because I’ve always been aware that the far-left’s terms are outdated by a few decades.
But:
I’m loving how the party faithful are embracing the Democratic Whore hashtag.
That’s resilience.
And for the sake of a campaign that at least pretends to give a fig about civility, Sanders needs to cut the shittier of his surrogates’ mics off for good.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:19:20am

GotNwes is trying to catch up with the Chuck Johnson nwes cycle.

WE DID IT! Our fearsome mind control powers have freed Corey Lewandowski!

Not that we’ve ever said this before — except for those two or three other times — GotNewsDotCom has influenced the course of human events by our sheer hatred and outrage that anyone would disagree with us.

Corey Lewandowski will be not be charged [EDITORS NOTE: Except he was.] — I mean, prosecuted in the battery case that Michelle Fields (who I hate with the heat of a thousand suns) used to inject herself in national affairs. Not that we would ever do that, ourselves — except for those other times.

For the moment, we will ignore the fact that our top notch sources in law enforcement failed us, because Politico got the scoop, but the state attorney for Palm Beach County will not prosecute Lewandowski. A press conference is scheduled for later today, during which State Attorney David Aronberg will tell the world GotNewsDotCom freed Lewandowski.

More at GotNwes.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:32:29am

Just a reminder that Michelle Fields is still a horrible garbage human being

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:33:56am

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

Just a reminder that Michelle Fields is still a horrible garbage human being

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She’s trying to make amends with the wingnut base.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:36:26am

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

Just a reminder that Michelle Fields is still a horrible garbage human being

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Yeah, I find it distinctly uncomfortable to defend her, but the attacks on her by Chuck, Dim Jim and others are beyond the pale. If she wants to sue anyone for defamation, she needs to go after them as well as Lewandowski.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:37:42am

A 28 year old wanting to eliminate social security. Wow. How brave and compelling.

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Alyosha  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:39:46am

re: #49 Dr. Matt

‘Why do they stay?’
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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:47:13am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:47:37am

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

@goddamnedfrank @H_from_HH @BlueNationRev 50K in Washington Park. That’s how.
— Cumberland Miner

Also got a bunch of people arrested at the Capitol, which was the most arrested forever.

/

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:47:50am

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

Just a reminder that Michelle Fields is still a horrible garbage human being

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Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.

- Dwight D. Eisenhower

For those wingnuts reading this who might simply be inclined to shout “RINO!!1”, let me remind you that Ronald Reagan quoted that Ike passage in 1980 in explaining to conservative activists why he would not try to eliminate Social Security.

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darthstar  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:50:21am

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

- Dwight D. Eisenhower

For those wingnuts reading this who might simply be inclined to shout “RINO!!1”, let me remind you that Ronald Reagan quoted that Ike passage in 1980 in explaining to conservative activists why he would not try to eliminate Social Security.

Do you know what St. Ronnie would be if he were alive today? A fuckin’ RINO!!1

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:51:04am

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

@goddamnedfrank @H_from_HH @BlueNationRev Not really. Think about it. His plan is to ask the people to ask them to support him. And we will.
— Cumberland Miner

How did no one ever think of this before?

/

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darthstar  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:51:16am

Tax raisin’ amnesty grantin’ rino.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:52:49am

re: #56 darthstar

Do you know what St. Ronnie would be if he were alive today? A fuckin’ RINO!!1

He would be bowing to Trump just like Chris Christie et al. are doing today.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:54:29am

New York Daily News:

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:58:56am

I think it’s kinda funny that Hillary is the “status quo” candidate, carrying on the policies of Obama. But when Obama was elected in 2008 he was the “Unicorn Farts” President:

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Dave In Austin  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:00:27am

re: #53 Dr. Matt

If I were fishing at the coast, I would feed the little raiders an entire bucket of bait…… But I’m not.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:02:28am

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

I think it’s kinda funny that Hillary is the “status quo” candidate, carrying on the policies of Obama. But when Obama was elected in 2008 he was the “Unicorn Farts” President:

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I remember that a lot of 2008 was about how things were going to get done, especially with respect to what would become the ACA.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:06:29am

re: #17 teleskiguy

On Monday when we were loading up the snowcat and sleds and shit on trailers one of my supervisors approached everybody (10 of us) and solicited money for fuel for the snowmachines. I gave a 10 spot. He gave the money to the trip organizer (the guy in green in Comment #1 in this thread) of this ski adventure and he turned it down. “Buy us beers at Mango’s [the closest bar from where we were at, 10 miles away] with that cash. ‘Bernie Sanders’ that cash, spread it around! Most of you guys are Bernie supporters, right?”

I walked up to the trip organizer and told him “I’m actually a Hillary supporter, but don’t tell anybody.” He laughed and vigorously shook my hand.

BTW, this is the machine six of the people in my party rode up in to go skiing on Monday (I took a snowmobile up).

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Maybe I’m missing something, but if you ride a snowmobile up to ski down, what happens to the snowmobile?

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:08:12am

re: #59 Dr. Matt

He would be bowing to Trump just like Chris Christie et al. are doing today.

I don’t agree, because its just impossible to say. Reagan had to fight very different political battles than the most recent crowd of presidential-wannabes and he didn’t have to deal with the Perpetual Political Rage Machine that is Twitter.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:13:56am

re: #64 stpaulbear

Maybe I’m missing something, but if you ride a snowmobile up to ski down, what happens to the snowmobile?

They pile them up, so that when it snows next year, the mountain’s a little bitt taller.

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darthstar  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:15:01am

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

I think it’s kinda funny that Hillary is the “status quo” candidate, carrying on the policies of Obama. But when Obama was elected in 2008 he was the “Unicorn Farts” President:

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Reaching for unicorn farts is how you make incremental progress. Reaching for health care for all brought us the ACA. Not perfect, but a fuck of a lot better than what we had before.

She did say she would ‘try to fight’ for an increase in the minimum wage. So I guess there’s that. Give federal employees $12 an hour and it’s a campaign promise kept at least as far as the WaPo fact checker is concerned.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:19:05am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Funny, even though I grew up around Chicago, I really did not develop an ear for the blues until I heard it processed through British bands like Cream, Ten Years After, Led Zeppelin or early Fleetwood Mac.

If you’re into Clapton, you might want to start with the ‘Born Under A Bad Sign’ album by Albert King so you can hear where Clapton got his licks verbatim.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:19:36am

re: #63 Belafon

I remember that a lot of 2008 was about how things were going to get done, especially with respect to what would become the ACA.

Indeed, that is rather the distinct difference between then and now, the focus on the nitty-gritty of making these ideas happen rather than simply falling back on talking points whenever questioned on the sausage-making.

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CleverToad  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:21:34am

I started out this week telling myself I was letting the primary get to my blood pressure a little too much. I was going to back off, and as a means of reminding myself that I was trying not to diss the relatively sane Sanders supporters on my Facebook feed, I would practice here by not updinging any Bernie-bashing comments.

T’hell with it.

Bernie has passed the point where any positive contributions he made to the Democratic primary process have been swamped by the damage he and his official surrogates are doing to the discourse and trying to do to the party itself. If by some hopefully far-fetched scenario, Bernie ended up as the nominee, I would vote for him. I would have to. But it would take industrial strength nose-plugs and I would be happily stumping for whichever Democrat could challenge him in 2020.

If he turns around right now and dumps Jeff Weaver and reins in his extremist surrogates, my view might alter a bit. But only a bit. I hope the Dems who have endorsed him can exert some influence before they are damaged themselves.

/rant over/ let the updingings recommence.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:22:10am

re: #67 darthstar

I believe the Daily News endorsement of her (and the critique of Sanders) did a good job of explaining how her plans, more realistic than Sanders’, are still designed to help people in the country: nydailynews.com.

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darthstar  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:23:41am

re: #67 darthstar

Here’s what I mean when I say status quo…

And that, frankly, is what the Democratic Party used to do, back in the era of the New Deal and the Great Society. It offered as its essential pitch to voters a compassionate and responsive government that sought to combat — or at least mitigate — the corrosive values of a capitalist theocracy.

What does the modern Democratic Party offer? The strategy put forward by Bill Clinton was called “triangulation.” And while it may have worked in an electoral sense, the de facto result was a strategy of appeasement that left Democrats pushing conservative policies: welfare reform, tax cuts, financial deregulation.

We’re going to be negotiating from the middle.

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Great White Snark  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:28:50am

re: #72 darthstar

The middle is where reality lives. Far right and far left are fantasy lands.

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darthstar  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:29:09am

re: #71 Belafon

I believe the Daily News endorsement of her (and the critique of Sanders) did a good job of explaining how her plans, more realistic than Sanders’, are still designed to help people in the country: nydailynews.com.

Sanders proposed investing $1Trillion in infrastructure. That’s a hard number.

This is a generalization:

As a first priority, she looks to boost growth so that businesses need more workers and thus must hike salaries to attract them. She would stimulate the economy with major investments in roads, bridges and other infrastructure, as well as in scientific and medical research in critical areas like neuroscience. One such plan would devote $2 billion annually to seeking techniques to prevent and treat Alzheimer’s disease.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:29:52am

re: #72 darthstar

Here’s what I mean when I say status quo…

We’re going to be negotiating from the middle.

So, you’re stuck in the 90s. Hint, it’s not 1992, Hillary’s not Bill, and - as we’ve seen comparing this election to 2008 - she can learn. The bills she sponsored and supported in the Senate were not the kind that Bill would have supported in the 90s.

Edit: I should say “some of the bills.”

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:31:51am

re: #72 darthstar

Here’s what I mean when I say status quo…

We’re going to be negotiating from the middle.

But the middle isn’t where it was even eight years ago. Back then, even “unicorn farts” Obama had to tread carefully when it came to social issues like gay marriage.

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darthstar  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:36:07am

re: #76 Targetpractice

But the middle isn’t where it was even eight years ago. Back then, even “unicorn farts” Obama had to tread carefully when it came to social issues like gay marriage.

We still need to move the middle to the left some more.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:38:03am

re: #76 Targetpractice

But the middle isn’t where it was even eight years ago. Back then, even “unicorn farts” Obama had to tread carefully when it came to social issues like gay marriage.

OBAMA WASN’T A TRUE PROGRESSIVE!! HE SOLD US OUT!!1!!1!

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:38:46am

re: #77 darthstar

We still need to move the middle to the left some more.

Unfortunately, in American politics, such is easier said than done. Progress generally has to be gradual, as forced progress that does not deliver immediate or beneficial results tends to result in a regressive backlash.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:38:53am

re: #76 Targetpractice

But the middle isn’t where it was even eight years ago. Back then, even “unicorn farts” Obama had to tread carefully when it came to social issues like gay marriage.

And the moment Bernie doesn’t deliver the unicorn farts, his supporters abandon him just like they did in 2010 when Obama didn’t buy them a pony.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:39:24am

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

Wishful thinking and unicorn farts. A powerful combination. Mass delusion, which will only feed some nonsensical conspiracy theory once the NY results come in and kill any “momentum” that Bernie claimed to have. That and the next bunch of states heavily favors Hillary per polling.

All that comes at a time when Bernie’s got to get 57% or more of every state from here on out to get the nomination. He’s losing by that kind of margin in most of the big ticket states: NY, CA, PA, CT, NJ. In other words, he’s needing a 28 point swing just to get close to the nomination. To say it isn’t happening is being charitable.

The most it means is that voting in NJ primaries might actually mean something for the first time in a long time. Woo.

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Alyosha  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:39:26am

Progressive politicians have a built-in disadvantage when it comes to character. We reward conviction politicians for sticking to their chosen ideology always and their fervour determines the turnout in their favour come election time.
A candidate who seems a bit like a windsock, taking favourable positions when it suits the public mood, can’t be all bad.
Good politicians evolve.
Demagogues appear where apathy and radicalism reign.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:39:43am

re: #80 Dr. Matt

And the moment Bernie doesn’t deliver the unicorn farts, his supporters abandon him just like they did in 2010 when Obama didn’t buy them a pony.

Ayep, the moment he has to compromise, to accept less than 100% of what he (and they) want, it’s over for him. He’ll be seen as having betrayed the cause and will be a pariah.

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darthstar  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:42:14am

re: #75 Belafon

So, you’re stuck in the 90s. Hint, it’s not 1992, Hillary’s not Bill, and - as we’ve seen comparing this election to 2008 - she can learn. The bills she sponsored and supported in the Senate were not the kind that Bill would have supported in the 90s.

No…not stuck in the 90s. And I don’t equate her with her husband. I just don’t see any specifics…’major investment’ can be $200 billion or $20 billion. There’s a big difference in that missing zero. You get billions by asking for trillions.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:48:20am

re: #83 Targetpractice

Ayep, the moment he has to compromise, to accept less than 100% of what he (and they) want, it’s over for him. He’ll be seen as having betrayed the cause and will be a pariah.

Or else he can act like the governor of Kentucky and just threaten to shut the whole MF thing down. I really think that this is what a lot of Bernie supporters are hoping for.

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Alyosha  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:58:17am

re: #83 Targetpractice

re: #85 stpaulbear

How many of the anarchists wanted a default during the Cruz shutdown just to see what happened? How does Sanders negotiate upping the debt ceiling to his supporters adamantly opposed to big banking as well as to Republicans who are just praying for the opportunity to nuke the economy on the watch of an avowed socialist?

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:58:59am

re: #85 stpaulbear

Or else he can act like the governor of Kentucky and just threaten to shut the whole MF thing down. I really think that this is what a lot of Bernie supporters are hoping for.

Of course they are. Much like the Tea Baggers, they think that there’s only two options: Get 100% of what you want or none of it, even if you have to burn the whole house down in the process.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:03:29am

re: #86 Alyosha

How many of the anarchists wanted a default during the Cruz shutdown just to see what happened? How does Sanders negotiate upping the debt ceiling to his supporters adamantly opposed to big banking as well as to Republicans who are just praying for the opportunity to nuke the economy on the watch of an avowed socialist?

Well, if he’s the sort of guy he claims to be on the campaign trail, he doesn’t. He straps in alongside the Cruz-ians and sees where the ride takes the nation. After all, he and they are of the opinion that the nation would have been better off if TARP hadn’t gone through, even though the most optimistic economists say we would have experienced a crash to put the Great Recession to shame.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:06:58am

re: #87 Targetpractice

Of course they are. Much like the Tea Baggers, they think that there’s only two options: Get 100% of what you want or none of it, even if you have to burn the whole house down in the process.

Yep, given that a lot of the Bernie supporters would rather see Cruz or Trump win rather than vote for Hillary, it’s already built in to their thinking that completely trashing the place is a more desirable and intellectually satisfying solution than continuing to make slow, steady progress against the rabid conservatism that is far too prevalent now in the US House and Senate and at state levels.

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Alyosha  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:08:37am

re: #88 Targetpractice

Well, if he’s the sort of guy he claims to be on the campaign trail, he doesn’t. He straps in alongside the Cruz-ians and sees where the ride takes the nation. After all, he and they are of the opinion that the nation would have been better off if TARP hadn’t gone through, even though the most optimistic economists say we would have experienced a crash to put the Great Recession to shame.

In that context, his ambition doesn’t seem so outlandish as it first appeared.

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MsJ  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:12:02am

re: #52 Alyosha

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Rre: #72 darthstar

Here’s what I mean when I say status quo…

We’re going to be negotiating from the middle.

You seem to conflate Bill with Hillary as if they’re the same person and time has stood still since he was POTUS. Sadly, you also seem to have been swayed by 30+ years of RWNJ talking points about how trustworthy she is. I can’t express how sad that makes me.

A woman doesn’t not change thoughts and concepts over time, just as a man doesn’t. Obama changed his thoughts in LGBT issues, for one, yet you think Hillary can’t.

Nothing ever “stuck” as for her trustworthiness. She’s had every possible thing the right can make up thrown at her, yet, nothing. There’s no There there.

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MsJ  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:14:05am

re: #74 darthstar

Out of curiosity, where will those funds come from? You think the GOP will allow it? Sanders can’t get dems behind him (he’s completely doing a Shock and Awe on the entire party) yet you think the GOP is somehow going to open their hearts and taxes to him?

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gwangung  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:20:30am

re: #84 darthstar

No…not stuck in the 90s. And I don’t equate her with her husband. I just don’t see any specifics…’major investment’ can be $200 billion or $20 billion. There’s a big difference in that missing zero. You get billions by asking for trillions.

Actually, I don’t think you do. That’s a mistaken view of how negotiations work. If you ask for the moon and don’t have a prayer of even coming close, the other side can just laugh at you and leave the table until you get closer to reality.

Yes, you start out by asking for the extreme end of what you want, but you have to bring a credible club to the table when you do that.

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Alyosha  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:22:00am

My preferred socialist pathfinders eschew revolution.
America is not perfect. No democracy is. To spoil it with revolution is to surrender the levers of power to those most unable to keep the peace.
You’d think those most consistently opposed to the Iraq war would know that the perils of that kind of ‘freedom’ outweigh the gains.
Vote Fabian. Vote Clinton.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:25:12am

re: #93 gwangung

Actually, I don’t think you do. That’s a mistaken view of how negotiations work. If you ask for the moon and don’t have a prayer of even coming close, the other side can just laugh at you and leave the table until you get closer to reality.

Yes, you start out by asking for the extreme end of what you want, but you have to bring a credible club to the table when you do that.

As we’ve seen time and again over the course of the last eight years, generally to the White House’s favor. Virtually every time the Tea Bagger caucus of the GOP has tried to start out with an extreme (ex: total repeal of the ACA), whether as a condition or as an end-goal, the White House has laughed and told them to get serious. And when they have tried to push the issue by threatening dire consequences for the nation, they could only sustain that position as long as public opinion was in their favor.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:27:36am

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

- Dwight D. Eisenhower

For those wingnuts reading this who might simply be inclined to shout “RINO!!1”, let me remind you that Ronald Reagan quoted that Ike passage in 1980 in explaining to conservative activists why he would not try to eliminate Social Security.

So, what the hell happened in the meantime to create jerks like Grover Norquist, and all the Republican Governors that are for all that ‘right to work’ BS???

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:27:39am

re: #23 teleskiguy

Bernie Sanders *is* a superdelegate!

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At least he’s on the list. But you know how it’ll go. Bernie is somehow different from all the others!

en.wikipedia.org

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Alyosha  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:30:22am

Sad. If only his surrogates were better educated. /

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:31:45am

re: #98 Alyosha

Sad. If only his surrogates were better educated. /

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Times like these only further magnify those times when he stays quiet or offers half-assed excuses for his surrogates.

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Lidane  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:33:12am
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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:33:25am

re: #98 Alyosha

Sad. If only his surrogates were better educated. /

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If only he’d said that a news cycle ago, a lot of Berniebots wouldn’t be looking like total jerks this morning.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:36:09am

“But what about those insensitive remarks Hillary and her surrogates made?!?!

WELL, SHE DID IT TOO!

These people.

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Alyosha  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:36:54am

re: #100 Lidane

The unaccountabilty? Sounds like a Trump standard.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:37:09am
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Alyosha  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:38:52am

re: #101 stpaulbear

If only he’d said that a news cycle ago, a lot of Berniebots wouldn’t be looking like total jerks this morning.

‘“Shills” would have done!’

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:38:55am

re: #77 darthstar

We still need to move the middle to the left some more.

How willing are you to elect a Republican?

Look at how close the elections have been lately. A little move to the left might mean a full Republican Government.

Then we’d have to start the whole process all over again.

Keep in mind what the New York Daily News and some others have done to Bernie in the last month. Can you imagine what the real conservative media would do to him if he was the Democrat in the election?

And his reactions to criticism so far would be mild to how I think he would act under the pressure of that media. Then he’d be painted as too extreme and cranky for America and nothing would get done.

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MsJ  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:39:07am

re: #97 GlutenFreeJesus

At least he’s on the list. But you know how it’ll go. Bernie is somehow different from all the others!

en.wikipedia.org

Was all his personal information released in that hit list spreadsheet of dem delegates?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:40:24am

re: #104 lawhawk

QuakeFeed woke me up early this morning.

Mawlaik, Burma 6.9

Ashkasham, Afghanistan 6.6

Ueki, Japan 6.2

I need to turn off notifications.

Tons of smaller (fracking) quakes in OK, KS, TN. Every day.

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Jenner7  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:41:59am

At a Bernie rally:

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MsJ  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:42:17am

re: #98 Alyosha

Sad. If only his surrogates were better educated. /

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I’m shuddering at the thought of who Bernie would pick for cabinet positions. He’s shown enormously bad judgement in almost every single surrogate and team member, he’s giving me Trump level inadequacy and inability to serve as POTUS.

Goddamn. He’s freaking scary to think of as POTUS.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:44:14am

re: #106 ObserverArt

How willing are you to elect a Republican?

Look at how close the elections have been lately. A little move to the left might mean a full Republican Government.

Then we’d have to start the whole process all over again.

Keep in mind what the New York Daily News and some others have done to Bernie in the last month. Can you imagine what the real conservative media would do to him if he was the Democrat in the election?

And his reactions to criticism so far would be mild to how I think he would act under the pressure of that media. Then he’d be painted as too extreme and cranky for America and nothing would get done.

The thing is, I personally think Clinton will move it to the left. She cares about women, minorities, and the poor (as seen by not only her talk but the things she’s worked on when Bill was president, as a senator, and as SoS). But she’ll move it to the left because she’s not trying to move it really far all at once. There is no single-point-of-failure in her approach.

Yes, I am an incrementalist. Story of my life.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:46:29am

LOLWHUT

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:46:32am

re: #106 ObserverArt

How willing are you to elect a Republican?

Look at how close the elections have been lately. A little move to the left might mean a full Republican Government.

Then we’d have to start the whole process all over again.

Keep in mind what the New York Daily News and some others have done to Bernie in the last month. Can you imagine what the real conservative media would do to him if he was the Democrat in the election?

And his reactions to criticism so far would be mild to how I think he would act under the pressure of that media. Then he’d be painted as too extreme and cranky for America and nothing would get done.

So far, I’ve seen Sanders respond to unfavorable press and tough questions by bullying interviewers into dropping the questions, marching out of interviews when they wouldn’t, and attacking the media when his behavior was made public. He does not compare well to a woman with decades of experience dealing with the press and who sat through 11 hours of hostile questioning without breaking a sweat.

It’s not hard to imagine his blowing up the first time he has a confrontation with the GOP Suicide Caucus and their capitalizing on it by portraying him as the “extremist” for refusing to negotiate with them at all.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:47:57am

re: #111 Belafon

Obama attempted a sea change with health care reform (ultimately dropping single payer in favor of the GOP’s individual mandate, which they in turn repudiated as somehow not being constitutional even though Heritage touted it as the way to go for personal responsibility), and Democrats ran away from it after it was passed (and lost the House in the process). Not getting out and voting during midterms is a thing with Democrats, and it’s enabled the GOP to pick up seats in Congress, state houses, and governors’ offices around the nation. The result has been corrosive and detrimental to civil rights, human rights, and equal rights across the board.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:48:02am

re: #111 Belafon

The thing is, I personally think Clinton will move it to the left. She cares about women, minorities, and the poor (as seen by not only her talk but the things she’s worked on as Bill’s wife, as a senator, and as SoS). But she’ll move it to the left because she’s not trying to move it really far all at once. There is no single-point-of-failure in her approach.

Yes, I am an incrementalist. Story of my life.

I was addressing Darth and his desire for a move to the left. I think it safe to say Darth and you see a little move to the left as differing amounts in that movement. I base that on the fact Darth is a Bernie supporter and you are more a Hillary supporter.

So…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:50:22am

re: #100 Lidane

Donald Trump to Pittsburgh Crowd: ‘How’s Joe Paterno? Are We Going to Bring That Back?’ t.co pic.twitter.com
— Mediaite

Trump trying to make Palin look erudite.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:54:24am

re: #114 lawhawk

Obama attempted a sea change with health care reform (ultimately dropping single payer in favor of the GOP’s individual mandate, which they in turn repudiated as somehow not being constitutional even though Heritage touted it as the way to go for personal responsibility), and Democrats ran away from it after it was passed (and lost the House in the process). Not getting out and voting during midterms is a thing with Democrats, and it’s enabled the GOP to pick up seats in Congress, state houses, and governors’ offices around the nation. The result has been corrosive and detrimental to civil rights, human rights, and equal rights across the board.

Funnily enough, I was just looking up Hillary’s healthcare proposals from ‘08, to see how far she had shifted in the eight years on the subject. And immediately ran into commentary from that election about how she was the only one with a proposal that would ensure universal coverage because it included a mandate, that Obama was actually being criticized for his “pie-in-the-sky” proposal that included no mandate. And that, contrary to the progressive myth that has been perpetuated for years since, he did not start off ever pushing single-payer, that his only concession to progressive politics was including the public option (which ol’ Joe “Our Senator From Aetna” Lieberman killed) on the insurance exchanges.

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Great White Snark  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:57:34am

$.02
Of course politics is rife with negotiations, and it pays to be a capable negotiator. But the horsetrading or a Pickers show analogy oversimplifies. HRC gets this as per her premature and face it too far left for the day medical proposal in Bills day. She proposed something way too far for the day and got not just nothing but negative political capitol for a while. Between that and the energy tax proposal which met a similar fate for similar reasons, no, asking too much is a highly flawed strategy.

The Tea Party hacks don’t get this as a matter of their ideology. Now that they own the GOP it’s the same.

Let’s not discount how much has been accomplished. A President ago we had Justice defending the D.O.M. act. Gay marriage is a matter of law. As always, some break the law loudly. This happened while the GOP held legislative sway. We have the ACA, imperfect, but well worthwhile, able to evolve further.

BTW anyone recall the sometimes too far left California legislature rebuffing a state law proposal for universal healthcare? 2007 Yeah, it was proposed by a Republican Governor. Of course many (all?) GOPers opposed him but they were a minority. Still are.

We missed Universal Healthcare in California by this much in 2007
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:02:32am
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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:04:56am

re: #116 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Trump trying to make Palin look erudite.

I have heard he is excusing that comment as “he was talking about the Paterno statue and when would they put that back in place?”

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:05:07am

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

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Come on, Frank, you know that the whole thing’s rigged, else Bernie would be millions of votes ahead of her and Trump and “the establishment” would be on its knees, begging for him to go easy on them.

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Ming5000  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:05:11am

re: #81 lawhawk

Good to have you back!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:06:53am

So I heard that Rosario was calling Hillary a Murderer last nite??

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Great White Snark  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:07:17am

I gotta get to some work, but new Page. The energy execs had hard data long ago, decades ago on the climate change they were incurring.
littlegreenfootballs.com

Sound familiar?

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:09:15am

re: #122 Ming5000

Well, vacation beckoned, and I couldn’t resist :)

Photos, of course, are integral to all my vacations, and here’s a small sampling.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:13:40am

re: #124 Great White Snark

I gotta get to some work, but new Page. The energy execs had hard data long ago, decades ago on the climate change they were incurring.
littlegreenfootballs.com

Sound familiar?

Yeah…too familiar.

To me climate discussion and concern goes all the way back to the very first Earth Day. What was that…1970?

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:17:36am
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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:19:45am

re: #124 Great White Snark

I gotta get to some work, but new Page. The energy execs had hard data long ago, decades ago on the climate change they were incurring.
littlegreenfootballs.com

Sound familiar?

I believe the new winger talking point is the oil companies are being persecuted for not believing in climate change.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:22:55am

So, today’s the day that Sanders and Clinton meet in a debate at the famed Brooklyn Navy Yards ahead of the NYS primaries. That’ll be fun to be sure.

At least the Democrats are still doing debates where policy is discussed as compared to the GOP, who are trying to outdo each other with hand size, who’s pushing the limits on xenophobia, misogyny, and outright racism/bigotry.

Meanwhile, looks like the Pope wont be meeting with Bernie after all (minor kerfuffle nothingburger, but hey, it’s news-y).

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:24:04am

re: #126 ObserverArt

Yeah…too familiar.

To me climate discussion and concern goes all the way back to the very first Earth Day. What was that…1970?

Goes back a lot farther than that. littlegreenfootballs.com
Global Warming and CO2: 1955

Sorry about the lack of a clickable link. Copy and paste is strictly a random process with the touchpad on this Dell hipster special I am trying to use.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:24:30am

re: #120 ObserverArt

I have heard he is excusing that comment as “he was talking about the Paterno statue and when would they put that back in place?”

I’d like to think so. He can’t possibly be this dense.

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Ming5000  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:26:13am

re: #129 lawhawk

Looks like the next GOP debate is not until Aug 6.

Probably a good thing….

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:28:46am

re: #129 lawhawk

So, today’s the day that Sanders and Clinton meet in a debate at the famed Brooklyn Navy Yards ahead of the NYS primaries. That’ll be fun to be sure.

At least the Democrats are still doing debates where policy is discussed as compared to the GOP, who are trying to outdo each other with hand size, who’s pushing the limits on xenophobia, misogyny, and outright racism/bigotry.

Meanwhile, looks like the Pope wont be meeting with Bernie after all (minor kerfuffle nothingburger, but hey, it’s news-y).

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Unfortunately, if the past debate and the events since it are any indication, it’ll be Sanders slinging shit and Clinton responding in a way that shows she’s covered in teflon. There’s no real way for him to challenge her on the issues without leaving himself wide-open for criticism of his own positions and his past record, so he’s going to just keep going after her character.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:29:25am

re: #132 Ming5000

Looks like the next GOP debate is not until Aug 6.

Probably a good thing….

Bet it doesn’t happen.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:30:37am

re: #133 Targetpractice

Unfortunately, if the past debate and the events since it are any indication, it’ll be Sanders slinging shit and Clinton responding in a way that shows she’s covered in teflon. There’s no real way for him to challenge her on the issues without leaving himself wide-open for criticism of his own positions and his past record, so he’s going to just keep going after her character.

Then it’ll be another useful debate. :)

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Ming5000  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:31:17am

re: #134 Big Beautiful Door

I bet you are right. The GOP has got to know it will be UGLY.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:33:54am

re: #136 Ming5000

I bet you are right. The GOP has got to know it will be UGLY.

Trump will shut it down. He doesn’t want his ratings draw to be used to give Cruz and Kasich a mass audience to promote themselves and attack him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:35:44am

Wait a minute; there can’t be a GOP debate August 6. That is after the primaries and even the convention! Is it May 6?

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KingKenrod  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:37:51am

There are no more debates. The Aug 6 date was last year.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:40:21am

I was hoping August 6th was the GOP convention, but that’s July 18th.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:42:32am

re: #140 Belafon

I was hoping August 6th was the GOP convention, but that’s July 18th.

July 18th seems early for a convention.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:42:41am

De Niro still promoting dangerous anti-vaccer nonsense. slate.com

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Ming5000  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:46:47am

Hey Everybody! My LGF account was hacked somehow.

I apologize if anyone received a stoopid posting by my account name “Ming5000”

{hides head under blanket. Sorry everyone}

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withak  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:47:00am

I know that we’ve established that Lyin’ Ted can’t have been the Zodiac Killer, but are we sure he’s not a lizard person from outer space?

Who buys that much soup?

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:49:38am

re: #145 withak

Andy Warhol. /point proven

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 14, 2016 • 8:51:03am

I actually managed to find the Dell help file but it is no help. Like Monopolosoft itself, they carefully craft all supposed help material to avoid any situation that a user might encounter in the real world.
It is theoretically possible to highlight text with the touchpad but it apparently requires special instruction that is only available at Hogwartzy places like Austin College or Hendrix in Arkansas. The idea is to hold your finger down on the magic pad and move it in the direction of the text you have some faint hope of copying. The problem is that you have to get the pressure right within, say, a microgram per square meter, and the finger impact speed to within a micron per fortnight.
On the other hand, the cursor will relocate itself on a whim, so you’re typing along only to have your new text appear in the middle of what you have already typed. It will also randomly open a new page and destroy your text completely. I am afraid to try anything else, lest it start spewing Coptic speaking cockroaches out the DVD port or something. I think it is possessed by the spirit of Timothy Leary, if not William Burroughs himself.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:02:53am

So….last weekend I found a kiosk that sells Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups. I took two packages with me to class, and one of my students saw one of the package and immediately asked, “Where did you get those?!” So I told her, but she lives quite far away. She asked me to pick up two packages for her. I gave her one package, and honestly, she had that thing torn open and all three pieces devoured in the blink of an eye.

Turned out her brother-in-law had once brought some back from a visit to the US and she got totally addicted to them, LOL. They don’t sell them here, unfortunately, aside from the aforementioned kiosk…..Czechs just really don’t do peanut butter.

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b.d.  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:10:21am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

Czechs just really don’t do peanut butter.

Barbarians

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:18:21am

re: #147 Shiplord Kirel

… I am afraid to try anything else, lest it start spewing Coptic speaking cockroaches out the DVD port or something. I think it is possessed by the spirit of Timothy Leary, if not William Burroughs himself.

I believe that Charles Stoss has already written those books.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:26:20am

re: #149 b.d.

Barbarians

I’ve only met a couple of Czechs who really liked peanut butter. One of them, good lord, she ate damn near an entire jar by herself. And now, this student of mine who absolutely loves the combination of chocolate and peanut butter.

In contrast, my ex hated even the smell of peanut butter. I’d brought home a jar one day and when I opened it, within less than a minute I hear her saying, “What’s the horrible stink?” from the living room. LOLOL

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:28:32am

Yet another big bill we are all forced to pay.

cnn.com

A repair bill of an estimated $23 million and months out of action. That’s the cost to U.S. taxpayers and the Navy after the four-year-old littoral combat ship USS Forth Worth tried to operate its propulsion system without enough oil in January.

But we can’t afford to invest in education!

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:32:55am

re: #152 GlutenFreeJesus

Yet another big bill we are all forced to pay.

cnn.com

If Sanders has contributed anything of value to the political discourse, it is pointing out how this nation is always penniless when it comes to things the promote the general welfare, but always have plenty of money for warfare. The LCS is just one of the projects that should have been given the axe years ago, but persists because somebody somewhere in the levers of power has a vested interest in seeing it continue. Hell, given his connections to the F-35 program, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Sanders has some interest in the LCS as well.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:35:46am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

I’ve only met a couple of Czechs who really liked peanut butter. One of them, good lord, she ate damn near an entire jar by herself. And now, this student of mine who absolutely loves the combination of chocolate and peanut butter.

In contrast, my ex hated even the smell of peanut butter. I’d brought home a jar one day and when I opened it, within less than a minute I hear her saying, “What’s the horrible stink?” from the living room. LOLOL

I used to be addicted to peanut butter. Loved it on toasted wheat…it would spread out so nice on warm bread. Yum!

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:35:46am
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retired cynic  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:37:33am

“Now, yes, I know I bring this stuff on myself. I know it. You don’t have to tell me.

“But, dammit, that’s what Twitter is for, poking at the internet with a pointy stick.

“And so I did.

“Dear, Christians. Poke. Poke.”

stonekettle.com

Jim Wright strikes again.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:39:24am

re: #155 lawhawk

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Wait a sec, I’ve been assured for weeks now that the DNC and the Clinton campaign conspired together to steal the vote in Arizona, as part of the grand plan to secure the nomination for her. Why would they now sue the state if their plan went off without a hitch?

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Archangelus  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:39:46am

My reaction:

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:40:04am

re: #156 retired cynic

I had had just finished reading his essay and was just about to post that link.

Brilliant job, as usual.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:40:26am

re: #154 ObserverArt

Toasted bread, peanut butter, and pickle slices. No. I’m not kidding. You can thank me later. :)))))

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:45:01am

re: #154 ObserverArt

I used to be addicted to peanut butter. Loved it on toasted wheat…it would spread out so nice on warm bread. Yum!

It’s sort of expensive here, so for me, it’s more of an occasional treat. They sell JIF as the big American brand, but there is a lower-cost brand, made in the USA, at Kaufland, which is where I usually go shopping. Both varieties, chunky and smooth, can be found at the big supermarkets in the major cities, but once you’re away from there, then it gets much harder to find. That student of mine lives in a town with a population of only about 2,220 and she told me she’s looked high and low in her town, and the only place she can find it is in Ostrava, and that’s a 23 mile drive for her in her rather unreliable hoopdee. So she asked me to pick stuff like that up for her, which is no problem for me. I see her once a week and deliver her groceries, LOL.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:45:47am

re: #155 lawhawk

Bernie. Where are you??

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Whack-A-Mole  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:49:45am

re: #158 Archangelus

Ehh, I wouldn’t mind the thought of Trump making a third party bid but, in this cycle, that would just encourage BernieBros to demand the same and that would hurt the Dem chances to retake as much of government as we can.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:50:44am

re: #100 Lidane

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And I had a bet that he was going to say this about Bob Prince…

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:50:52am

re: #162 GlutenFreeJesus

Bernie. Where are you??

Yeah, where is the Sanders campaign? Since it was their supporters who argued the loudest that the vote was “rigged,” shouldn’t they have been the ones leading the charge on this?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:52:02am

re: #158 Archangelus

One-third of GOP voters and nine-tenths of Democratic voters think Trump should run as independent if he loses nomination.

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2016 • 9:58:13am

Samantha Bee Finds It Easier To Buy A Gun Than Get An NRA Mascot Costume

Eddie Eagle | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS

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retired cynic  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:02:56am

Another link to something so mesmerizing, I watched all 15 minutes. Couldn’t look away!

Dance on the circle.

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:08:20am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

…..Czechs just really don’t do peanut butter.

What do the children eat, then? ///

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:09:26am

re: #149 b.d.

Barbarians

National peanut allergy./

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:10:36am

re: #154 ObserverArt

I used to be addicted to peanut butter. Loved it on toasted wheat…it would spread out so nice on warm bread. Yum!

My favorite is peanut butter on cinnamon raisin toast.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:13:57am

re: #165 Targetpractice

You’d think they’d be the ones pushing hardest on this issue. But then again. Minorities haven’t been his strongest bloc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:14:35am

My Amazon shopping spree stuff was just delivered.

Yay!

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:16:13am

re: #172 GlutenFreeJesus

You’d think they’d be the ones pushing hardest on this issue. But then again. Minorities haven’t been his strongest bloc.

The only other assumption I can make is that the Sanders campaign looked at the matter, concluded that it would only worsen his loss there, and decided to let the results stay as is rather than further his humiliation.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:17:32am

Captain America: Civil War is getting great reviews.
slate.com

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Joe Bacon  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:18:49am

re: #154 ObserverArt

I love peanut butter spread on matzoh!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:23:46am

re: #168 retired cynic

Another link to something so mesmerizing, I watched all 15 minutes. Couldn’t look away!

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Video

Beautiful.

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sagehen  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:25:29am

re: #56 darthstar

Do you know what St. Ronnie would be if he were alive today? A fuckin’ RINO!!1

Just because he gave amnesty to 3 million of the undocumented? And supported gun control? Because as governor of California he signed the most liberal abortion law in the country? He also made a big campaign issue out of balancing CA’s budget… conservatives forget that the way he did that was by letting 1/3 of the inmates out of the penitentiary…

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Teukka  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:25:41am

Things making waves this side of the pond:
European fascist and neo-nazi association gets vast EU-subsidy

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:27:11am

“Is there a favorite Bible verse or Bible story that has informed your thinking or your character through life, sir?” asked host Bob Lonsberry on WHAM 1180AM.
Trump responded, saying, “”Well, I think many. I mean, when we get into the Bible, I think many, so many. And some people, look, an eye for an eye, you can almost say that. That’s not a particularly nice thing. But you know, if you look at what’s happening to our country, I mean, when you see what’s going on with our country, how people are taking advantage of us, and how they scoff at us and laugh at us. And they laugh at our face, and they’re taking our jobs, they’re taking our money, they’re taking the health of our country. And we have to be firm and have to be very strong. And we can learn a lot from the Bible, that I can tell you.”

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

Well, that figures. Except that it never applies to him personally. An eye for an eye only applies to someone else. And I suspect he doesn’t even know what that means.

This is Sarah Palin word salad.

“They’re” taking “our” jobs.

Who’s this “they”? Donald, you opted to have your clothing line made overseas, rather than have it made domestically. Why? Because you valued your personal profits over all else. You refused to have them made here, despite that it would create jobs here in the US. Other companies do the same. Nothing you have proposed would address any of this, and you’re on the record having stated you’d like to see minimum wages eliminated because companies pay workers too much (before reversing yourself).

“They’re” laughing at our face.

Who’s this mythical “they”?

“They’re” taking our money?

What does that even mean? Assuming our debt?

We have to be strong.

How are we not currently strong? Do we not have the largest military budget that dwarfs everyone else - and we spend more per year than the next 10 countries combined, and that includes allies and rivals alike. We still have the ability to nuke any spot on the globe - and basically turn the planet into a cinder with our military capabilities. We also could turn any spot on the planet into dust with conventional forces (we have more aircraft carriers, more stealth aircraft, and more of pretty much every technological military gadget devised by mankind in the 20th/21st Century).

If you’re going to argue that the military acquisition system is broken, and we’re spending all those billions on stuff we shouldn’t, you wouldn’t get an argument from me - the F35 is a broken system, the LCS is another mess, and the lack of competition in areospace means getting more for less isn’t happening. There’s lack of competition among shipbuilders too, so costs escalate quickly. Add to that Congress who wants stuff built in their districts and you’ve got a system where any major military program gets parceled out to as many districts as possible so that shutting down a problematic military program is pretty much impossible.

But I digress.

Nothing that Trump stated is actually true. Except perhaps that he’s incomprehensible and doesn’t know what the bible says (and hopes people buy into the baffling bs).

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:28:00am

Oh fuck me

And some idiot then says this stupid shit==>

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:28:30am

re: #169 BlueSpotinAL

What do the children eat, then? ///

Soup, sauerkraut, sausages, dumplings and potatoes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:31:10am
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sagehen  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:31:26am

re: #96 ObserverArt

So, what the hell happened in the meantime to create jerks like Grover Norquist, and all the Republican Governors that are for all that ‘right to work’ BS???

The Civil Rights Act.

FHA subsidized mortgages isn’t just for white people anymore? Then let’s get government out of subsidizing mortgages.

Free college and well-financed K-12 isn’t just for white people anymore? Let’s stop funding education, let students and their parents pay for it themselves.

Unions aren’t just for white people anymore? Time to dismantle the unions.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:31:43am

re: #180 lawhawk

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

Well, that figures. Except that it never applies to him personally. An eye for an eye only applies to someone else. And I suspect he doesn’t even know what that means.

This is Sarah Palin word salad.

“They’re” taking “our” jobs.

Who’s this “they”? Donald, you opted to have your clothing line made overseas, rather than have it made domestically. Why? Because you valued your personal profits over all else. You refused to have them made here, despite that it would create jobs here in the US. Other companies do the same. Nothing you have proposed would address any of this, and you’re on the record having stated you’d like to see minimum wages eliminated because companies pay workers too much (before reversing yourself).

“They’re” laughing at our face.

Who’s this mythical “they”?

“They’re” taking our money?

What does that even mean? Assuming our debt?

We have to be strong.

How are we not currently strong? Do we not have the largest military budget that dwarfs everyone else - and we spend more per year than the next 10 countries combined, and that includes allies and rivals alike. We still have the ability to nuke any spot on the globe - and basically turn the planet into a cinder with our military capabilities. We also could turn any spot on the planet into dust with conventional forces (we have more aircraft carriers, more stealth aircraft, and more of pretty much every technological military gadget devised by mankind in the 20th/21st Century).

If you’re going to argue that the military acquisition system is broken, and we’re spending all those billions on stuff we shouldn’t, you wouldn’t get an argument from me - the F35 is a broken system, the LCS is another mess, and the lack of competition in areospace means getting more for less isn’t happening. There’s lack of competition among shipbuilders too, so costs escalate quickly. Add to that Congress who wants stuff built in their districts and you’ve got a system where any major military program gets parceled out to as many districts as possible so that shutting down a problematic military program is pretty much impossible.

But I digress.

Nothing that Trump stated is actually true. Except perhaps that he’s incomprehensible and doesn’t know what the bible says (and hopes people buy into the baffling bs).

I thought his favorite was Two Corinthians?

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:33:05am

Instagram

Head in the sky. Rail in his hand. @mattbanting and an optimistic lien grab in Western Australia a few hours ago. Photo: @jimmicane

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:33:27am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BRIDGEPORT - In a shot heard around the nation’s gun manufacturing, a Superior Court judge Thursday refused to toss out the lawsuit by the families of the Sandy Hook victims against the manufacturer of the gun used by Adam Lanza to kill the 26 school children and teachers in December 2012.

Judge Barbara Bellis ruled that the federal law protecting gun makers from lawsuits does not override the “legal sufficiency” of the claims by the Sandy Hook families that the gun used by lanza should never have been made available for sale to civilians.

The judge ruled the lawsuit will go on and all sides are to report to her courtroom on April 19 for a status conference.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:34:39am
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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:35:03am

What is it about Guatemala-Mexico border that Trump fans think we should replicate?

They think that there’s an actual fence, or wall there?

Memo: There isn’t. And if you’re seeing photos purporting to be that fence, odds are that they’re BS - either fencing along the US-Mexico border, or the Israeli fence with Palestinian territories or its borders with it’s Arab neighbors.

Most illegal crossings from Guatemala into Mexico are across river.

Mexico does do quite a bit of deportation of Guatemalans who enter illegally, but that’s not unlike the US, which deports quite a bunch of people who enter the US illegally across the Mexico-US border.

A fence wont stop that from happening, or eliminate the rationale for businesses that hire illegals.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:35:09am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want to upding that 100 times.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:36:43am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

Judge Barbara Bellis ruled that the federal law protecting gun makers from lawsuits does not override the “legal sufficiency” of the claims by the Sandy Hook families that the gun used by lanza should never have been made available for sale to civilians.

Whoa.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:37:32am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

I’ve only met a couple of Czechs who really liked peanut butter. One of them, good lord, she ate damn near an entire jar by herself. And now, this student of mine who absolutely loves the combination of chocolate and peanut butter.

In contrast, my ex hated even the smell of peanut butter. I’d brought home a jar one day and when I opened it, within less than a minute I hear her saying, “What’s the horrible stink?” from the living room. LOLOL

That’s me. My mother said I wasn’t American since I couldn’t stand peanut butter.

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:37:41am

Delete, I’m having computer issues.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:37:43am

re: #191 Dr. Matt

Whoa.

yep, heads will explode…

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:39:49am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep, heads will explode…

I was thinking the exact same thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:39:53am

Another article:

very short, here it is:

A Superior Court judge has denied a motion to dismiss a lawsuit accusing gunmakers and sellers of liability in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, saying the broad immunity granted to the firearms industry does not strip the court of jurisdiction to hear the claim.

While the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act generally insulates gun companies from liability, Judge Barbara Bellis said the law could be used to attack the legal sufficiency of the plaintiffs’ claims, but not to have the case thrown out at this early stage.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:40:05am

re: #191 Dr. Matt

Whoa.

“But I’ve got a right to a semi-automatic assault rifle with a high-capacity magazine! It says so in the Constitution, that I can have the very same weapons that the Army uses…to kill civilians…crap.”

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:42:28am

re: #197 Targetpractice

“But I’ve got a right to a semi-automatic assault rifle with a high-capacity magazine! It says so in the Constitution, that I can have the very same weapons that the Army uses…to kill civilians…crap.”

It’s for sport! It’s a hobby! I need it for protection!!1!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:44:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:44:43am

re: #198 stpaulbear

It’s for sport! It’s a hobby! I need it for protection!!1!

THOSE DEER ARE SNEAKY LITTLE SHITS, I TELL YA!!

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:46:01am

This ruling, by a low level judge, will last 10 seconds in the appeals out because of prior prescident. The firearm was legal to own and was legally sold, hence under current federal law the lawsuit can’t go forward. This is simply eyewash for the nightly news cycle.

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darthstar  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:46:27am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yay! More bad habits!

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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:49:50am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

Plaintiff’s have a bigshot law firm on their side. koskoff.com

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:54:52am

re: #201 William Lewis

This ruling, by a low level judge, will last 10 seconds in the appeals out because of prior prescident. The firearm was legal to own and was legally sold, hence under current federal law the lawsuit can’t go forward. This is simply eyewash for the nightly news cycle.

There’s nothing wrong with the parents of Sandy Hook victims getting more time on the nightly news and bringing attention to semi-automatic weapons being available to pretty much anybody. I wish them all the publicity in the world.

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Jenner7  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:55:18am
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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:57:12am

re: #205 Jenner7

“How much of it did you read?”

””

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:57:37am

So, Ted Cruz is an anarchist.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:58:02am

re: #205 Jenner7

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Well gee, that’s easy to say because Bernie has no foreign policy. Like his domestic policy, he just assumes that good thoughts and fairy dust will mean things work out in America’s favor.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:58:34am

“…Nelson disputed comments made by LULAC’s Wilkes that Presente only has one employee (Nelson said the number is fewer than 10). He chose not to address that Presente is funded and its board controlled by Citizens Engagement Lab.

“The pushback on it has been that it’s a Latino organization front group for a non-Latino organization going after Secretary Castro,” Wilkes said.”

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The Engineer Lobuno  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:58:46am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

Even worse, a theocratic anarchist.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:59:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:59:32am
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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 10:59:49am

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

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Archangelus  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:01:47am

A tried and tested method, any self-preserving creature would react accordingly…

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gwangung  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:03:30am

re: #209 jaunte

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This reminds me of people attacking Angry Black Lady as working on foreclosures (when it’s my understanding she was working on behalf of people owning the homes to modify the mortgage). Wonder if there’s any substance here….

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:04:58am

re: #215 gwangung

Now we know: to the purists, everyone else is a corporate whore.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:06:22am

re: #210 The Engineer Lobuno

Even worse, a theocratic anarchist.

With the voice of Ted Cruz!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:06:28am

re: #169 BlueSpotinAL

What do the children eat, then? ///

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Lidane  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:07:11am

*facepalm*

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:09:28am

re: #209 jaunte

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Brogressives have decided that Sanders is toast, now trying to force their will upon the Clinton campaign.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:11:23am

re: #219 Lidane

Lex Talionis; a much older precedent than bankruptcy protection.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:12:27am

re: #213 Kragar

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Or to jerk off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:14:59am
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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:15:16am

Seriously, progressives are doing themselves absolutely no favors with their behavior this election year. They’re going after the woman presidential candidate with misogynistic attacks and after the Latino politician who’s the leading pick as her VP by accusing him of selling out his fellow Latinos. All in support of an old white guy.

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Alephnaught  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:17:20am
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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:18:40am
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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:18:52am

Eye for an eye…

Today’s news identifies that the Russians pulled a Maverick and did a close-in flyby of a Navy ship.

How would Trump respond?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:21:46am

re: #224 Targetpractice

Seriously, progressives are doing themselves absolutely no favors with their behavior this election year. They’re going after the woman presidential candidate with misogynistic attacks and after the Latino politician who’s the leading pick as her VP by accusing him of selling out his fellow Latinos. All in support of an old white guy.

I think they’re mistaking him for Gandalf, or maybe Albus Dumbledore. In any case, the ‘cult of personality’ aspects are starting to piss me off. He’s not magical, and the absence of much substance around his signature issue, plus the absence of any foreign policy beyond ‘I voted against the Iraq War’ just leaves me unimpressed, and the fact that it DOESN’T leave many Progressives impressed actually makes my sympathize with those Republicans who aren’t crazy watching Trump run off with their party.

A little. Not much. Just a bit.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:23:37am

re: #189 lawhawk

Good grief—the stupid, it burns. Ignoring the atrocious spelling, IMO these were the top five stupidest ones, in order of appearance in the list:

2. “You can see the great wall of china from space. You can’t see anything in America from space. China is always beating us! : (“

Yeah, “BECAUSE CHINA!!11!” is always a good reason. *eyeroll*

5. “Should we build a wall? Because walls works!!! Ask Isreal [sic]… “

Yeah, that totally worked. Easy peasy, see? No more conflict there, just ask any Israeli!

7. “Build the wall to decrease the chance of terrorism.”

Right, a wall would’ve kept the 9/11 terrorists out. Oh wait… never mind. Name one illegal immigrant who has committed a terrorist attack on U.S. soil. I’ll wait—*tap, tap, tap…*

9. “If the Pope can be behind wall — so can we!”

“BECAUSE THE POPE!!11!” Yet more keen wingnut insight. *facepalm*

11. “It’ll keep drugs out.”

In what fantasy universe has that ever happened? O_o
Several people mentioned keeping drugs out, this was just the first idiot.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:23:51am

re: #227 lawhawk

Eye for an eye…

Today’s news identifies that the Russians pulled a Maverick and did a close-in flyby of a Navy ship.

How would Trump respond?

Real question is how @realdonaldtrump would address this kind of action. “Eye for an eye”? Escalate tensions?

Based on his “I HAD TO respond!” answers in the Twitter War with Cruz, yes. He sees failing to overreact as weakness.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:24:37am

Maybe, if they can piss off enough Latinos that they stay home, and piss off enough blacks that they stay home, they can argue that Sanders should have been nominated to appeal to the remaining white males.

*spit*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:24:57am

re: #230 Blind Frog Belly White

Based on his “I HAD TO respond!” answers in the Twitter War with Cruz, yes. He sees failing to overreact as weakness.

He said he likes punching back…

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CuriousLurker  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:25:36am

re: #227 lawhawk

BTW, I like the new look of your blog. It’s much easier to read and really puts the focus on the photos.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:27:45am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Based on his “I HAD TO respond!” answers in the Twitter War with Cruz, yes. He sees failing to overreact as weakness.

He said he likes punching back…

More than that, he sees it as an imperative. That’s why ‘an eye for an eye’ is his favorite line from the Bible. Of course he misses the point, which is that a just response is a MEASURED response, not a massive overreaction.

He is the kind of guy who can be goaded into stupid shit by any sufficiently manipulative world leader. And he expects it to work as well for him as it did in the GOP.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:28:46am

re: #229 CuriousLurker

And the whole Pope/wall kerfuffle reminds me that the Vatican is indeed surrounded by walls, but there’s huge gaping holes in said walls - where anyone from neighboring Italy can enter without much effort: St. Peter’s Square.

Image: File:St_Peter%27s_Square,_Vatican_City_-_April_2007.jpg

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:30:07am

re: #233 CuriousLurker

Thanks. I freshened it up a few months back, switching from a 3 column blue to a 2 column look. Still trying to get used to it though as I don’t post nearly as frequently as I used to do. I had the old design for so long…

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:30:36am

re: #235 lawhawk

And said walls were created when Rome was under attack by armies utilizing catapults and battering rams

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Jenner7  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:31:30am

Oh my god, Michelle Fields had the audacity to do her job and touched Mr. Trump, therefore it was her fault Corey assaulted her.

//

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:31:41am

re: #235 lawhawk

And the whole Pope/wall kerfuffle reminds me that the Vatican is indeed surrounded by walls, but there’s huge gaping holes in said walls - where anyone from neighboring Italy can enter without much effort: St. Peter’s Square.

Image: File:St_Peter%27s_Square,_Vatican_City_-_April_2007.jpg

The walls of the Vatican are holey.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:33:17am

re: #239 BlueSpotinAL

The walls of the Vatican are holey.

So they use Swiss Guards, because the walls are like Swiss Cheese?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:33:38am

Took him long enough.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:34:18am

re: #224 Targetpractice

Seriously, progressives are doing themselves absolutely no favors with their behavior this election year. They’re going after the woman presidential candidate with misogynistic attacks and after the Latino politician who’s the leading pick as her VP by accusing him of selling out his fellow Latinos. All in support of an old white guy.

All in support of an old white guy who has been a part of the Democratic Party for 12 minutes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:42:45am

So, I’m seeing from Bernie supporters on twitter insisting that Dr. Song isn’t one of his surrogates, he wasn’t there when the “whores” statement, and only learned about it this morning.

Sanders doesn’t have one single person monitoring twitter who could have mentioned it to him last night?

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Alephnaught  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:43:32am

(Doctor Who reference warning….)

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:46:11am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, I’m seeing from Bernie supporters on twitter insisting that Dr. Song isn’t one of his surrogates, he wasn’t there when the “whores” statement, and only learned about it this morning.

Sanders doesn’t have one single person monitoring twitter who could have mentioned it to him last night?

He was right fucking there when it happened. He thanked Song for introducing him.

After Song spoke, Bernie surrogate Rosario Dawson (whose over-the-top attacks have stirred controversy in recent weeks) suggested that Hillary is personally responsible for deaths that Bernie himself said Hillary is NOT accountable for.

Bernie then took the stage and thanked (yes, thanked) the speakers who introduced him for their “great introductions” — including Dr. Song and Dawson.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:48:45am

re: #245 goddamnedfrank

He knows, and he lets it happen for effect.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:48:54am
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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:49:09am

re: #245 goddamnedfrank

He was right fucking there when it happened. He thanked Song for introducing him.

Grasping at straws has become the favorite past-time of the Bernie Bros.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:50:03am

re: #225 Alephnaught

The American people are capable of anything. We just need to get government out of the way.t.co
— Ted Cruz

So we don’t need the government to ban dildos or abortions then?

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:51:52am

re: #249 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So we don’t need the government to ban dildos or abortions then?

Or porn. Especially porn. The Internet’s for porn after all.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:51:55am

The Sanders campaign is seeing the end coming:

“…the Sanders forces will seek concessions, in the party platform and in the form of reforms to the Democratic nominating process.

Ms. Sanders said the Sanders camp would seek to “make sure that the issues that we’re raising are addressed in the Democratic platform, and that Bernie gets the nomination.” If the latter doesn’t happen, one assumes they will continue pushing for the former.washingtonpost.com

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:56:03am

re: #64 stpaulbear

Maybe I’m missing something, but if you ride a snowmobile up to ski down, what happens to the snowmobile?

They use SASSM’s. Self-addressed, stamped snowmobiles. Post office takes care of everything!

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:57:33am
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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:58:31am

re: #251 jaunte

The Sanders campaign is seeing the end coming:

And really, what is he proposing that isn’t already part of the Clinton campaign or violently at odds with it? I honestly cannot think of anything.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:59:14am

re: #254 Targetpractice

Maybe the part about remaking the primary process?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 11:59:59am

re: #251 jaunte

Sanders isn’t a Democrat. He has no place dictating any rules. Neither does his wife.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:00:30pm
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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:01:10pm

re: #256 GlutenFreeJesus

It’s a coup!

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:03:18pm

re: #252 Jebediah, RBG

They use SASSM’s. Self-addressed, stamped snowmobiles. Post office takes care of everything!

I was wondering if those high-buck ski lodges might have valet snowmobile retrieval.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:03:45pm

re: #258 jaunte

“Coupé!”

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:06:00pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

And really, what is he proposing that isn’t already part of the Clinton campaign or violently at odds with it? I honestly cannot think of anything.

He’s proposing that Bernie become president.

re: #256 GlutenFreeJesus

Sanders isn’t a Democrat. He has no place dictating any rules. Neither does his wife.

I agree. Clinton and the democratic party would be justified in telling him to just go away.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:06:10pm

re: #260 GlutenFreeJesus

“Coupé!”

“De Monet! Say it… Mo - nay! Say it with me, Mo - nay!”

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allegro  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:06:15pm

re: #260 GlutenFreeJesus

“Coupé!”

Little Deuce!

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:06:48pm

re: #244 Alephnaught

(Doctor Who reference warning….)

I was trying to think of something like that. Good job.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:06:48pm

Unreal. They just keep lying.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:06:59pm

re: #256 GlutenFreeJesus

Sanders isn’t a Democrat. He has no place dictating any rules. Neither does his wife.

It does seem out of sync with his stated principles.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:08:05pm

re: #225 Alephnaught

The American people are capable of anything. We just need to get government out of the way.

Channeling Ronald Reagan: “Government isn’t the solution, it’s the problem!”

I read about how the USS Ronald Reagan was sent to offer disaster relief after Fukushima. If only Ronnie himself could have been there when the captain presented his credentials and stated “We’re from the US government and we’re here to help you!”

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:09:23pm

What kind of game is CNN playing here?

Nobody would mistake Bernie Sanders’ stump speech for a sermon. When making moral arguments about income inequality or climate change, he’s more likely to quote statistics than Scripture.

Though raised Jewish, Sanders says that he is “not particularly religious,” nor is he a member of any congregation or synagogue. “I am not actively involved in organized religion,” he has told reporters.

But at a CNN town hall in New Hampshire in February, Sanders seemed to contradict himself.

“It’s a guiding principle in my life, absolutely,” said the Vermont senator and Democratic presidential candidate.

“You know, everyone practices religion in a different way. To me, I would not be here tonight, I would not be running for president of the United States if I did not have very strong religious and spiritual feelings.”

So what gives? Is Bernie Sanders religious or not?

Many Americans answer that question with a shrug, according to a January poll conducted by the Pew Research Center. Nearly a third say Sanders is “somewhat” religious; nearly a third say he’s not, and more than a quarter say they don’t know.
It may seem impolite to question Sanders’ religious views. Who cares whether he spends his Saturdays at a shul or a socialist rally? Millions, meanwhile, have rallied behind his presidential campaign, cheering his jeremiads against consumerism and political corruption.

But if Sanders wants to win the Democratic nomination, he has to expand his base, which means luring churchgoing Christians away from Hillary Clinton. According to exit polls, Clinton has dominated Sanders among Americans who attend worship services weekly, leading to a “God gap” among the Democratic candidates.

Sanders seems to know this. He has toured black churches and addressed evangelicals at Liberty University in Virginia. This Friday, just days before the New York primary, Sanders will deliver a speech on building a “moral economy” at the Vatican, where he hopes to meet a personal hero, Pope Francis.

But speeches alone won’t attract religious voters to Sanders, said Marvin A. McMickle, director of the Black Church Studies program at Colgate Rochester Crozer Divinity School in New York.

What part of no religious test does CNN not care about.

And there’s nothing contradictory between being devoutly Jewish personally, and not going to shul or openly expressing your Jewish views by wearing a talit or pais or wearing a kippah. You can hold to Jewish precepts without being outwardly devout.

I can believe in the Jewish teaching of Justice, Only Justice Shall Thou Pursue, while not wearing a talit or kippah every day. These are not contradictory positions.

And if Bernie wants to expand his base, he’d have to do more than pander with a single issue - Wall Street. That’s his real problem. It’s got nothing to do with his religious outlook. It’s got everything to do with the issue he’s used to stay in the race.

Hillary’s done a better job connecting with more voters (hence more delegates, more popular vote, and oh yeah, superdelegates).

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:09:52pm

re: #198 stpaulbear

In the words of Jim Jefferies, “What sort of a place do you live where you have to walk around constantly ready to be attacked?”

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:11:41pm

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

So, Ted Cruz is an anarchist.

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What he means is, “We have to get democracy out of the way. Then I’ll be free to rule this place with an iron fist.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:12:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:17:46pm
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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:19:30pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that’s just hours after the GOP led Congress refused to provide additional funding to help the DC Metro bring its infrastructure into a state of good repair.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:19:51pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh dog. More bad press for Metro.

(I take a commuter bus, thankfully)

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:20:47pm

re: #227 lawhawk

That’s all we need. Bug Bunny in office.

Cross This Line

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:24:10pm

re: #252 Jebediah, RBG

They use SASSM’s. Self-addressed, stamped snowmobiles. Post office takes care of everything!

So that’s why I got a snowmobile in the mail last week.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:25:53pm

re: #276 Romantic Heretic

So that’s why I got a snowmobile in the mail last week.

Nah—Todd Palin sent you that.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:36:11pm

re: #259 stpaulbear

I was wondering if those high-buck ski lodges might have valet snowmobile retrieval.

Possible job for Tawd Palin after Caribou Barbie’s grifts have all run dry?


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