FL State Attorney Won’t Prosecute Trump Aide Lewandowski, Chuck C. Johnson Takes Credit

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Surveillance video showed Trump aide Corey Lewandowski grabbing reporter Michelle Fields

Palm Beach County State Attorney David Aronberg has announced that his office will not be charging Donald Trump’s campaign manager Corey Lewandowski with battery against former Breitbart report Michelle Fields. His official statement says the prosecutor has not yet received the case from the Jupiter Police Department, and has not yet decided on the matter:

Some media outlets have reported that this office has brought charges against Corey Lewandowski, campaign manager for Donald Trump. These reports are false. Our office has taken no action against Mr. Lewandowski. The matter was investigated and charged by the Jupiter Police Department, not this office. We will await the file from the Jupiter Police Department and make a decision on how to proceed in this matter before Mr. Lewandowski’s May 4th arraignment.

Law enforcement charges on a probable cause standard. The State has to proceed on a legally higher standard of proof, which is beyond a reasonable doubt as well as whether there is a reasonable likelihood of a conviction. At this point, our office has not received the case.

Given Aronberg’s previous statements about this case, though, it seems clear a prosecution is unlikely:

Aronberg would not comment, but in a POLITICO interview last week, he pointed out that Jupiter police had a low “probable cause” standard to cite Lewandowski for battery. But the responsibility for moving forward with a full-blown prosecution rested with Aronberg’s office, which had to consider whether a crime occurred and whether they believed a jury of Floridians would prosecute.

“We have a higher standard to go forward with a prosecution,” he said.

Michelle Fields posted a couple of tweets about this last night; she’s clearly not pleased with this decision:

Meanwhile, guess who is claiming credit for the Palm Beach State Attorney’s decision? If you guessed “the thoroughly discredited white supremacist blogger banned for life from Twitter and currently suspended from Facebook, who tries to claim credit for almost every breaking news story,” you win!

Chuck C. Johnson (who is NOT ME) says he’s been “working behind the scenes” with Lewandowski’s lawyer, which apparently means he emailed copies of his absurdly vicious attacks on Michelle Fields, none of which would have played any part in the State Attorney’s decision, of course.

UPDATE at 4/14/16 12:26:21 pm by Charles Johnson

Lewandowski’s attorney is now trying to threaten Michelle Fields out of filing a civil liability suit.

UPDATE at 4/14/16 12:35:34 pm by Charles Johnson

Donald Trump called the prosecutor’s office personally to pressure them to drop the case.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:16:23pm

And according to every wingnut I know, the fact that there will be prosecution means no crime was ever committed and Lewandowski has been totally exonerated. The same people also regularly tell me that even if the FBI and/or DOJ choose not to charge Clinton with crimes in connection with “Emailgate,” she must still be guilty of something because she “lied.”

Thus IOKIYAR remains secure.

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Jenner7  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:17:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:21:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:22:49pm
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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:22:59pm

Chucky will take credit for the sun coming up in the morning and setting at night, even though it has nothing to do with nonstop raging furbyness.

He’s got nothing to do with any of this, but Chucky can’t help but attempt to insert himself into every national story, no matter what.

It’s a pattern with him, and he’s never going to stop (at least until he finds himself in prison as “the” story).

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:24:21pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

And according to every wingnut I know, the fact that there will be prosecution means no crime was ever committed and Lewandowski has been totally exonerated. The same people also regularly tell me that even if the FBI and/or DOJ choose not to charge Clinton with crimes in connection with “Emailgate,” she must still be guilty of something because she “lied.”

Thus IOKIYAR remains secure.

Makes perfect sense, if you don’t believe you’re just a sheeple.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:24:41pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rather sounds like the prosecutor decided that going forward with the case wasn’t worth the headache, so if he could extract an apology from Lewandowski that Fields said she’d be open to, then he could close the whole matter and move on.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:25:23pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

And according to every wingnut I know, the fact that there will be prosecution means no crime was ever committed and Lowendowski has been totally exonerated. The same people also regularly tell me that even if the FBI and/or DOJ choose not to charge Clinton with crimes in connection with “Emailgate,” she must still be guilty of something because she “lied.”

Thus IOKIYAR remains secure.

That really needs some kind of flow chart/decision tree, because as you know, any Democrat who is accused by anyone of anything but is not ever even charged is automatically guilty, and here you have an example of a Republican woman accusing a Republican man of a crime while the Republican man accuses her of lying.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:25:55pm

So, Trump’s team offered up a mealy mouth apology, Fields was the last to know (courtesy of leaks to other journalists first), and the prosecutor decided it wasn’t worth the effort of a prosecution when an apology would do.

This isn’t an exoneration of Lewandowski, and yet they decided to give him deference on par with law enforcement is troubling, especially with the kinds of violence we’ve seen at Trump events to date.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:29:02pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:32:23pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Umm, that last statement isn’t remotely close to an apology. The matter is not quite concluded.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:34:38pm

re: #9 lawhawk

So, Trump’s team offered up a mealy mouth apology, Fields was the last to know (courtesy of leaks to other journalists first), and the prosecutor decided it wasn’t worth the effort of a prosecution when an apology would do.

This isn’t an exoneration of Lewandowski, and yet they decided to give him deference on par with law enforcement is troubling, especially with the kinds of violence we’ve seen at Trump events to date.

It’s the sort of thing we’re used to with bullies, deferring punishment if they’ll give some half-assed act of contrition, then considering the matter closed because it would inconvenience us to do something to change the bully’s behavior. The bully does not see that he did anything wrong, but instead seems himself as the victim and will act on that to further his harassment of the bullied.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:39:27pm

Rage Furby still believes he won Hulk Hogan’s lawsuit against Gawker.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:42:13pm

Now that I think about it, what prompted the prosecutor to Fields if she would accept an apology from Lewandowski? Especially when the prosecutor’s office is making a point to say that it has not yet been handed the case? Did Trump and/or Lewandowski call the prosecutor and put forward the offer of an apology if it would make the whole matter “go away”?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:44:22pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

Now that I think about it, what prompted the prosecutor to Fields if she would accept an apology from Lewandowski? Especially when the prosecutor’s office is making a point to say that it has not yet been handed the case? Did Trump and/or Lewandowski call the prosecutor and put forward the offer of an apology if it would make the whole matter “go away”?

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:44:45pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:45:26pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, I noticed that. Amazing how “the right thing” seems to be dropping the whole matter with a half-assed apology and a wave of the hand absolution of the accused.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:48:05pm

re: #16 Kragar

Piker.

Everyone must have a sentry gun.

“Aliens” Sentry Guns Scenes

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:50:06pm

OFFS

Oh yeah, Kasich is the moderate one.

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Shimshon  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:50:30pm

Took the prosecutor this long to not press charges? Maybe he was operating on CP Time. “Career Prosecutor Time” of course.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:54:29pm

re: #18 lawhawk

Piker.
Everyone must have a sentry gun.

Video

WTH is that? A deleted scene?

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Jack Burton  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:55:33pm

re: #21 Dr. Matt

WTH is that? A deleted scene?

Yes it’s in the director’s cut.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:55:55pm

re: #21 Dr. Matt

WTH is that? A deleted scene?

Directors Cut and the novel. They had 4 sentry guns which they set up in the corridors leading to the command section before they welded the doors shut.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:56:26pm

What white male privilege?

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:57:05pm

re: #21 Dr. Matt

Yup. They were in some cuts of the movie, but removed for pacing.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:57:22pm

re: #22 Jack Burton

re: #23 Kragar

Directors Cut and the novel. They had 4 sentry guns which they set up in the corridors leading to the command section before they welded the doors shut.

My 2 cents. They should have packed more than 4. Could of made their lives a bit easier.

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Jack Burton  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:59:11pm

re: #26 Dr. Matt

My 2 cents. They should have packed more than 4. Could of made their lives a bit easier.

Those were all they could salvage from the wrecks of the APC and the lander.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:59:12pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

What white male privilege?

Emphasis on the “male,” because it’s hard as hell to see a male reporter being subjected to this, i.e. told that while his charge has merit because the accused is a liar, the matter is being dropped because the accused has offered an apology even though he maintains he did nothing wrong.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:59:39pm

re: #27 Jack Burton

Those were all they could salvage from the wrecks of the APC and the lander.

And even then they didn’t do more than slow the fuckers down.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 14, 2016 • 12:59:43pm

re: #19 lawhawk

OFFS

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Oh yeah, Kasich is the moderate one.

somebody has labelled his lectures “goy-splainin’”

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:01:31pm

re: #26 Dr. Matt

My 2 cents. They should have packed more than 4. Could of made their lives a bit easier.

My 2 cents. You’re sending in half a platoon on a troop ship capable of carrying hundreds to secure an industrial complex the size of city?

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:02:08pm

They could have gone with Battle of Brooklyn, which would have at least been historically accurate.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:02:16pm

re: #25 lawhawk

Yup. They were in some cuts of the movie, but removed for pacing.

It wasn’t shot very well. Didn’t see any aliens getting mowed down.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:02:37pm

re: #19 lawhawk

OFFS

Oh yeah, Kasich is the moderate one.

Kasich seems to have entered the “Eff it, I’ll just say anything, nothing matters anyway” stage of the campaign.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:03:13pm

re: #32 lawhawk

For the GOP version they could use Gangs of New York.

/

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:04:43pm

re: #34 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Kasich seems to have entered the “Eff it, I’ll just say anything, nothing matters anyway” stage of the campaign.

FWIW, Trump has been at this stage of the campaign since June 2015, with the difference that he’s still winning.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:04:51pm

re: #31 Kragar

My 2 cents. You’re sending in half a platoon on a troop ship capable of carrying hundreds to secure an industrial complex the size of city?

And they are wearing camouflage BDUs….in space.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:05:27pm

The fact that Lewandowski was given the same consideration as law enforcement seems fitting considering the whole handling of the case reads like a textbook example of a wrongful death case involving a minority victim. Prosecutor gets case where he’s either biased towards the accused or just doesn’t want the case, so he starts with the conclusion (accused is innocent) and then devotes his office to working towards that conclusion. He then comes out with a half-assed explanation about why, even though the evidence in the case is damning, he can’t go forward with it because the law won’t allow him. And the accused and/or his employer offers an insincere apology even while it maintains its innocence.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:07:00pm

re: #37 Dr. Matt

And they are wearing camouflage BDUs….in space.

Because Colonial Marines are ground-pounders, even though their means of conveyance is a starship. Just like modern-day Marines don’t go around wearing steel gray or navy blue uniforms even though their means of arriving at their destinations are ships and aircraft.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:08:48pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

Fleet does the flying, Mobile Infantry does the dying… /would you like to know more?

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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:09:10pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

Because Colonial Marines are ground-pounders, even though their means of conveyance is a starship. Just like modern-day Marines don’t go around wearing steel gray or navy blue uniforms even though their means of arriving at their destinations are ships and aircraft.

Again….they are wearing camouflage BDUs….in space.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:09:16pm

re: #31 Kragar

My 2 cents. You’re sending in half a platoon on a troop ship capable of carrying hundreds to secure an industrial complex the size of city?

“Hey, these Marines are tough hombres!”

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:09:50pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:10:34pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Also, here is file photo showing shattered eye socket….

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allegro  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:10:39pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

Emphasis on the “male,” because it’s hard as hell to see a male reporter being subjected to this, i.e. told that while his charge has merit because the accused is a liar, the matter is being dropped because the accused has offered an apology even though he maintains he did nothing wrong.

I don’t see a male reporter being handled in such a way in the first place. Tossing about smaller women is seen as no biggie.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:11:41pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

Because Colonial Marines are ground-pounders, even though their means of conveyance is a starship. Just like modern-day Marines don’t go around wearing steel gray or navy blue uniforms even though their means of arriving at their destinations are ships and aircraft.

And USMC aviators wear BDU camo helmets, to remind them, it is said, for whom they work.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:14:45pm

re: #41 Dr. Matt

Again….they are wearing camouflage BDUs….in space.

But they didn’t fight in space, they fought on a colony world. Admittedly one whose coloration was not primarily green, but still fighting on the ground. Plus from the sounds of it they were either just coming back from or on their way to a totally different planetside assignment when they were called up for the mission, so there probably wasn’t time to swap out or repaint equipment.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:15:04pm
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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:15:09pm

re: #44 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ayup. And he’s curiously demanding apologies from only women. Not like there weren’t guys who said she was assaulted.

Oh, and for the record, the prosecutor opted not to go forward because he figured an apology was sufficient would be sufficient, and the prosecutor decided to find a rationale to justify the contact - which would ordinarily be an assault/battery (charge depends on jurisdiction - in FL, it’s battery).

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Jack Burton  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:15:16pm

re: #31 Kragar

My 2 cents. You’re sending in half a platoon on a troop ship capable of carrying hundreds to secure an industrial complex the size of city?

They grossly underestimated the situation. They left the vast majority of their hardware on the Sulaco because they didn’t think they would need it. They were pretty sure that they were “rescuing colonists daughters from their virginity” after a “bug hunt” and not fighting a swarm of alien warrior drones.

They were also being led by an incompetent lieutenant and the corporate adviser with a shady hidden agenda.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:16:09pm

re: #50 Jack Burton

They grossly underestimated the situation. They left the vast majority of their hardware on the Sulaco because they didn’t think they would need it. They were pretty sure that they were “rescuing colonists daughters from their virginity” after a “bug hunt” and not fighting a swarm of alien warrior drones.

They were also being led by an incompetent lieutenant and the corporate adviser with a shady hidden agenda.

Mistakes were made.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:17:09pm

Been getting tweets like this all day.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:17:18pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

Mistakes were made.

It was a bad call.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:17:52pm

re: #49 lawhawk

Ayup. And he’s curiously demanding apologies from only women. Not like there weren’t guys who said she was assaulted.

Oh, and for the record, the prosecutor opted not to go forward because he figured an apology was sufficient would be sufficient, and the prosecutor decided to find a rationale to justify the contact - which would ordinarily be an assault/battery (charge depends on jurisdiction - in FL, it’s battery).

I really do wonder if that was a decision he reached himself or one that Trump pressured him into.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:19:04pm

re: #25 lawhawk

Yup. They were in some cuts of the movie, but removed for pacing.

I can see why -

“Oh, my God! The Sentry Guns shot all their rounds! And they just kept coming!”

“What about the OTHER Sentry Guns?”

“Oh, my God! The OTHER Sentry Guns shot all THEIR rounds! And they just kept coming!”

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:21:47pm

re: #55 Blind Frog Belly White

But that’s why we Americans here in 21st Century need even more guns. You can never have enough guns. This is proof. /

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:22:51pm

re: #56 lawhawk

But that’s why we Americans here in 21st Century need even more guns. You can never have enough guns. This is proof. /

But if you can never have enough, then no guns is as effective as infinite guns.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:23:58pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

ugh

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Decatur Deb  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:24:42pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Been getting tweets like this all day.

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Worthy of the hate-mail tipjar.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:26:06pm

Jesu Christy! My iPhone just started screaming at me! Friggin Amber Alerts!

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Jack Burton  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:27:44pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

Jesu Christy! My iPhone just started screaming at me! Friggin Amber Alerts!

You can turn those off on iPhones. I’m pretty sure one of the 9000 other ways they get those out will be seen by you. You don’t need the most annoying noise in the world to go along with it.

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Kryptik  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:28:04pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Some days, it feels like the well of hate and racism is truly bottomless and unceasing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:28:40pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Been getting tweets like this all day.

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Wow, they combined disgusting racism and disgusting misogyny in <140 characters. There’s someone the Twitterverse would be better off without. Probably true of the ACTUAL ‘Verse, as well.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:29:08pm

re: #23 Kragar

Directors Cut and the novel. They had 4 sentry guns which they set up in the corridors leading to the command section before they welded the doors shut.

You HAVE to get this book:
en.wikipedia.org

It was reissued in 2012, so hard copies are around. Outstanding writing and presentation of Colonial Marine weapons, tactics, TO&E etc. The author is a Brit who sometimes comments at progressive website Lawyers, Guns and Money.

PDF at Scribd here:Scribd Document

Amazon copies here: amazon.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:29:29pm

re: #62 Kryptik

Some days, it feels like the well of hate and racism is truly bottomless and unceasing.

The river of pink hateslime from “Ghostbusters II” is overflowing its banks.

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Jack Burton  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:31:06pm

re: #65 Blind Frog Belly White

The river of pink hateslime from “Ghostbusters II” is overflowing its banks.

Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every wingnut’s God given right.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:32:09pm

re: #66 Jack Burton

Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every wingnut’s God given right.

Rod Dreher? Is that you?

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:34:44pm

And even though the prosecutor acknowledged today that Lewandowski did grab Fields, you can be sure that wingnuts will go forward insisting that he never laid a hand on her and the pictures of the bruises on her arm are fakes.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:35:55pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:36:33pm

re: #32 lawhawk

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They could have gone with Battle of Brooklyn, which would have at least been historically accurate.

Two fucking HOURS of pre-debate BS??

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Jack Burton  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:37:10pm

re: #69 Kragar


I’ll say it again: Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every wingnut’s God given right.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:37:32pm

re: #70 stpaulbear

Two fucking HOURS of pre-debate BS??

Which will lead into debate B(ernie) S(anders).

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:39:25pm

re: #71 Jack Burton

I’ll say it again: Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every wingnut’s God given right.

Because transwomen getting beat and shanked in the men’s room is God’s way of saying they deserve what they get

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:39:54pm

Liang was convicted in the homicide of Akai Gurley in NYC. Gurley was using the stairwell when Liang opened fire. Gurley was in wrong place at wrong time - did no wrong.

Liang had hoped for mistrial over actions of one of the jurors. Judge was having none of that.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:41:42pm

re: #73 Aunty Entity Dragon

Because transwomen getting beat and shanked in the men’s room is God’s way of saying they deserve what they get

Never mind that who’s going to know what that person is doing in the bathroom? People use stalls for a good reason.

But the GOP is convinced that forcing people to use the bathroom based on the gender at birth will “solve” the problem.

It’s a solution to a non-problem, and is all about government so small it fits up in the personal space of people.

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Tigger2  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:42:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:44:07pm

So, that makes three Kentucky state parks now, I think.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:47:30pm
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majii  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:54:34pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

I’m black, and I don’t like rap and neither does my kid. How would these tools explain that, because they just know all blacks like rap? Idiots.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2016 • 1:58:34pm

re: #76 Tigger2

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I’ve been saying this for a long time. People usually throw in George Washington, but aside from not turning himself into a new King George, he really didn’t do anything that I know of. Lincoln and FDR are really the only two presidents in the same class.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:00:02pm

re: #80 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve been saying this for a long time. People usually throw in George Washington, but aside from not turning himself into a new King George, he really didn’t do anything that I know of. Lincoln and FDR are really the only two presidents in the same class.

Washington is known more for his achievements prior to being president than his achievements as president.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:03:19pm

re: #80 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve been saying this for a long time. People usually throw in George Washington, but aside from not turning himself into a new King George, he really didn’t do anything that I know of. Lincoln and FDR are really the only two presidents in the same class.

what washington didnt do made a huge impression at the time especially considering what napoleon did only a few years later and then for good measure his descendant did much later

george set the standard for all future democracies

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:08:15pm

re: #82 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what washington didnt do made a huge impression at the time especially considering what napoleon did only a few years later and then for good measure his descendant did much later

george set the standard for all future democracies

Oh, I don’t disagree—that was a huge contribution to democracy. As was his personal leadership against the Whiskey rebellion. Kinda proves there’s no Constitutional right to armed insurrection, like the wingnuts think….

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Testy Toad T  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:08:54pm

re: #80 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve been saying this for a long time. People usually throw in George Washington, but aside from not turning himself into a new King George, he really didn’t do anything that I know of. Lincoln and FDR are really the only two presidents in the same class.

Put down the Whisk(e)y Rebellion and established for three generations that the federal government was unquestionably the top dog. We could easily have gone through unending boom-bust Articles of Confederation cycles if the Constitution had not been definitively upheld.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:09:47pm

re: #43 lawhawk

“protective bubble”

OMG what a delicate fragile piece of glass!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:10:51pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

OMG what a delicate fragile piece of glass!

I’m picturing The Donald covered in bubble wrap now….

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:11:10pm

re: #50 Jack Burton

They were also being led by an incompetent lieutenant and the corporate adviser with a shady hidden agenda.

Two REMFs is what I called ‘em. Rear Echelon Mother Fuckers.

Although the Lieutenant redeemed himself by dying well in the end.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:11:55pm
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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:12:30pm
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Romantic Heretic  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:14:49pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, that makes three Kentucky state parks now, I think.

But taxes are low. Who need state parks anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:15:05pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:17:29pm

re: #87 Romantic Heretic

Two REMFs is what I called ‘em. Rear Echelon Mother Fuckers.

Although the Lieutenant redeemed himself by dying well in the end.

You always were an asshole, Gorman.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:20:15pm

re: #89 Kragar

Has she ever heard of the ‘Pinto’?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:22:15pm

RE: that Amber alert we all received

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:23:00pm

re: #19 lawhawk

OFFS

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Oh yeah, Kasich is the moderate one.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:23:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:23:37pm

They’re still at it.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:23:39pm

A Cruz fan chimes in:

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Nojay UK  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:24:08pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

I liked the comment the actress who played Vasquez made about the movie’s casting call. She knew it was a movie called “Aliens” and they were looking for a Latina actress to play the part, but that’s all she knew, so she dressed as a Los Angeles Hispanic girl thinking it was about “Illegal aliens”. It took several months of gym work to turn her into the USMC smartgunner we know and love.

Drake and Vasquez from Aliens

Poetry in motion.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:25:10pm

Reading something like this can just ruin your whole day. Imagine how it has ruined someone’s LIFE.

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Jack Burton  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:25:42pm

re: #99 Nojay UK

I liked the comment the actress who played Vasquez made about the movie’s casting call. She knew it was a movie called “Aliens” and they were looking for a Latina actress to play the part, but that’s all she knew, so she dressed as a Los Angeles Hispanic girl thinking it was about “Illegal aliens”. It took several months of gym work to turn her into the USMC smartgunner we know and love.

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Poetry in motion.

I believe that’s the reason they worked in the “she thought it said illegal aliens and signed up” joke in the locker room.

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Jenner7  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:27:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:28:57pm
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Testy Toad T  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:29:07pm

re: #102 Jenner7

Sanders’ campaign’s inability to keep their feet out of their mouths has got to be excellent GOTV for Clinton and/or motivation for her supporters (some of whom want to keep him in the race to keep her tacking to the left*) to actually vote for the candidate they want to see win the nomination.
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* raises hand
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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:31:39pm

re: #102 Jenner7

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And no matter how large a margin of victory, it will still be seen as portending the end of her campaign because he “did better than expected.”

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makeitstop  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:33:09pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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What’s up with the other two owls on skateboards?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:34:20pm
Trump repeated his claim that Lewandowski had not touched Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields. “I thought it was disgraceful,” Trump said, before asking Lewandowski if there were any updates on the case.
“They just dropped all the charges,” Lewandowski said.
“Oh, good,” Trump said. “Now tell my friends from, in some cases, Israel, how loyal was Mr. Trump to you?”
“More than I could possibly fathom,” Lewandowski said. “I am so grateful.”
“I’m proud of you, Corey,” Trump said, before turning back to the crowd to crack: “He wasn’t quite as effective for the past couple of months.”

Part of meeting today : Donald Trump Doesn’t Know What To Call the West Bank

Read more: forward.com

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:35:28pm

He called his Jewish real estate atty & bankruptcy attorney to attend.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:41:29pm

re: #106 makeitstop

It’s an owl playroom!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:44:06pm

re: #87 Romantic Heretic

Two REMFs is what I called ‘em. Rear Echelon Mother Fuckers.

Although the Lieutenant redeemed himself by dying well in the end.

Paul Reiser was the classic Ineffectual Middle-Management Suckup.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:44:58pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:48:45pm

re: #112 Kragar

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“despite”? Does CNN really think that this will hurt Lee in November? Hell, supporting it would be more likely to hurt him.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:49:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:53:33pm
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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2016 • 2:56:13pm

re: #96 Kragar

War Rig!!! WITNESS!!!!! /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:03:19pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:05:39pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He probably remembers that time Bill Clinton pardoned those crooks when New Square voted for Hillary for senator.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:07:33pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:10:21pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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His website!!!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:13:29pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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now the lubavitchers will all vote for bernie…

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:14:07pm

re: #114 Kragar

So, it isn’t actually how dumb the guy initially may or may not have thought she is, it’s how dumb she can convincingly act. This strikes a blow for justice how?

ETA: That’s not being a feminist hero, that’s acting like a really annoying twelve-year-old.

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makeitstop  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:16:15pm

re: #122 Jebediah, RBG

So, it isn’t actually how dumb the guy initially may or may not have thought she is, it’s how dumb she can convincingly act. This strikes a blow for justice how?

I just laughed at how quickly the guy jumped in to mansplain. He took the bait like a damn brook trout.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:20:21pm

re: #123 makeitstop

Yeah, that was pretty funny! But then I wondered if he is really that silly, or just playing along. I could believe either, since there is both a never-ending river of examples of condescending mansplaining as well as plenty of people who even more easily amused than I.
I guess I am just too old to understand the yoots of today, damn it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:22:05pm

re: #124 Jebediah, RBG

Yeah, that was pretty funny! But then I wondered if he is really that silly, or just playing along. I could believe either, since there is both a never-ending river of examples of condescending mansplaining as well as plenty of people who even more easily amused than I.
I guess I am just too old to understand the yoots of today, damn it.

Here, let me oldsplain it to you…..

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:25:58pm

re: #125 Blind Frog Belly White

Here, let me oldsplain it to you…..

Nice! Now I know I am going to be going around looking for opportunities to oldsplain stuff…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:26:34pm

re: #69 Kragar

The Little-Known Movers Behind North Carolina’s Anti-Gay Law: Ted Cruz’s Advisers

As he worked to rally evangelical voters a week before North Carolina’s March 15 primary, Ted Cruz gave a speech at a church in the Charlotte suburb of Kannapolis, where he was joined by a trio of prominent local social conservative supporters: Charlotte pastor and congressional candidate Mark Harris and the Benham brothers, the telegenic real estate entrepreneurs whose house-flipping show on HGTV was canceled in 2014 when their history of anti-gay activism came to light. At the event, Cruz thanked Harris for “calling the nation to revival,” and called David and Jason Benham “an extraordinary voice for the Christian faith.”

For years, Harris and the Benhams have been at the forefront of every battle to oppose gay rights in North Carolina. This past February, they were at it again, this time against a nondiscrimination ordinance proposed in Charlotte that, among other things, allowed transgender people to use public restrooms based on their gender identity and protected LGBT people from discrimination by public institutions. The advocacy of these top Cruz supporters against the Charlotte ordinance eventually led the North Carolina legislature to push through one of the most sweeping anti-LGBT measures in the country, a law that has caused a national outcry and caused many companies, including PayPal, to scrap plans to invest in the state. The law, the Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act, strikes down all existing and future LGBT nondiscrimination statutes in North Carolina and requires that transgender people use bathrooms based on their sex at birth.

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makeitstop  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:26:45pm

re: #126 Jebediah, RBG

Nice! Now I know I am going to be going around looking for opportunities to oldsplain stuff…

Be sure to wear an onion on your belt.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:28:29pm

re: #128 makeitstop

Can I get five bees for a quarter?

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:31:12pm

You know, earlier I wanted to say that the way this case felt was like that of a rape allegation, that the whole way it was handled felt like a prosecutor who was looking for some way to make it all go away by suggesting the victim just needed to forgive her rapist.

Well this:

“Anytime you see a woman claiming to be battered by a man, you should investigate, and that’s exactly what happened,” Pierson said on Fox Business Network, as quoted by The Hill. “Unfortunately, this was not the case, which actually hurts real cases of battery in this country, considering the magnitude and the scope of the publicity of this case.

Only reinforces that feeling. There really is nothing quite as disgusting as the suggestions made so far that not only did Fields bring on Lewandowski’s actions through her own, but also that this case is a hoax that hurts other women.

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makeitstop  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:33:48pm

Facebook quote from a friend who lives in Patchogue, the scene of Trump’s appearance today:

“My town is a Trumpsterfuck.”

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:40:34pm

re: #130 Targetpractice

Does it bother anyone that Ms. BulletNecklace, in that image, looks just too pale?

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:48:01pm

re: #130 Targetpractice

There really is nothing quite as disgusting as the suggestions made so far that not only did Fields bring on Lewandowski’s actions through her own, but also that this case is a hoax that hurts other women.

Right - a “hoax” despite it being on video, and despite the prosecutor’s concession that it did actually take place.
I’m really disappointed that this bully will suffer no repercussions at all for this. I’m not saying he should go to prison - but for fuck sake, there should at least be SOME cost, even if it is small, for battery.
And the avalanche of misogyny is as dismaying as it is predictable.

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makeitstop  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:50:17pm

re: #132 freetoken

Does it bother anyone that Ms. BulletNecklace, in that image, looks just too pale?

Looks like they went kinda crazy with the makeup.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:51:44pm

re: #133 Jebediah, RBG

Right - a “hoax” despite it being on video, and despite the prosecutor’s concession that it did actually take place.
I’m really disappointed that this bully will suffer no repercussions at all for this. I’m not saying he should go to prison - but for fuck sake, there should at least be SOME cost, even if it is small, for battery.
And the avalanche of misogyny is as dismaying as it is predictable.

Let’s hope that we get to watch him go down in flames with his candidate.

I want Donald’s (and the GOP’s) downfall to be more melodramatic and cringewworthy than The Poseidon Adventure.

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gocart mozart  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:55:05pm
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makeitstop  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:57:25pm

An interesting take on just why Trump went to Patchogue today, from a local paper: Trump Speaks in Patchogue: What’s His Motive?

Donald Trump comes to the East End to speak at a Republican fundraiser on Thursday, April 14. You might think he’d hold it in the Hamptons, where all the money is. But Trump doesn’t need the money, as he is quick to tell you. He is more after the hearts and minds of his people. He speaks at the Emporium in Patchogue, a classic Long Island village with many fine attributes, but one with a long and persistent undercurrent of bigotry.

Reaching out to his true base, maybe.

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EPR-radar  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:58:28pm

re: #135 stpaulbear

Let’s hope that we get to watch him go down in flames with his candidate.

I want Donald’s (and the GOP’s) downfall to be more melodramatic and cringewworthy than The Poseidon Adventure.

For the US to succeed, the GOP needs to fail in its attempts to hold and gain power.

It’s honestly that simple.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2016 • 3:59:21pm

Remember when bidness-types wouldn’t give up their Blackberries because they were just so, so secure?

Exclusive: Canadian Police Obtained BlackBerry’s Global Decryption Key

According to technical reports by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police that were filed in court, law enforcement intercepted and decrypted roughly one million PIN-to-PIN BlackBerry messages in connection with the probe. The report doesn’t disclose exactly where the key — effectively a piece of code that could break the encryption on virtually any BlackBerry message sent from one device to another — came from. But, as one police officer put it, it was a key that could unlock millions of doors.

Government lawyers spent almost two years fighting in a Montreal courtroom to keep this information out of the public record.

And while neither the RCMP nor BlackBerry confirmed that the cellphone manufacturer handed over the global encryption key, and both fought against a judge’s order to release more information about their working relationship, the Crown prosecutors admitted that the federal police service had access to the key.

And if the global key is still sitting on a server in the RCMP’s headquarters, the potential consequences could be significant. Although it wouldn’t offer police a backdoor into most of its government and business clients, who make up BlackBerry’s core constituency, it would mean that police enjoyed years of access to Canadians’ personal cellphones without the public being any the wiser.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:04:59pm

re: #126 Jebediah, RBG

Nice! Now I know I am going to be going around looking for opportunities to oldsplain stuff…

You have to start with “Why, when I was a boy…”

Assuming, of course, that you were.

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plansbandc  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:05:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:08:10pm

re: #141 plansbandc

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“We’ll need to see your Birth Certificate to determine what you were born as, Spoon or Fork.”

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:14:44pm

re: #136 gocart mozart

They look like such a fun loving couple.

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Lancelot Link  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:16:11pm

re: #136 gocart mozart

I really wish Craig Mazin’s movies weren’t quite so awful.

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:19:48pm

Fox News Poll: Trump widens lead in GOP race, Clinton-Sanders tightens

Donald Trump jumps to an 18-point lead over Ted Cruz this week with record high support for the Republican nomination.

Trump tops Cruz by 45-27 percent among GOP primary voters in a new Fox News national poll on the 2016 election. John Kasich comes in third with 25 percent.

…..

In contrast, the Democratic race tightened. Clinton is ahead by two points, edging Bernie Sanders by 48-46 percent. Last month, before Sanders won eight of the nine most recent contests, she had a 13-point advantage (55-42 percent).

The shift comes from women. Clinton’s support has declined 11 points among women, while support for Sanders is up by nine. Support among men mostly held steady — and it’s in Sanders’ favor: 57-37 percent.

foxnews.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:26:06pm

re: #145 Skip Intro

Fox News Poll: Trump widens lead in GOP race, Clinton-Sanders tightens

foxnews.com

Faux Noise poll—the GOP really want Bernie to be the nominee, don’t they?

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MsJ  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:32:23pm

re: #145 Skip Intro

The opposite of what was put out this morning.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:32:47pm

re: #145 Skip Intro

Fox News Poll: Trump widens lead in GOP race, Clinton-Sanders tightens

foxnews.com

Fox probably asked the respondents who their wife was going to vote for.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:36:06pm

re: #146 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Faux Noise poll—the GOP really want Bernie to be the nominee, don’t they?

I see Fox, or Rasmussen, or nowadays Gallup on a poll, I just assume they didn’t even ask anybody, they just pulled the numbers they want out of their asses.

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majii  Apr 14, 2016 • 4:41:45pm

re: #135 stpaulbear

I notice that Trump declined an invitation to this year’s Correspondent’s Dinner. I guess he couldn’t tolerate the president’s new jokes about him. It also had to burn Trump like acid when the president said that he wouldn’t be his successor.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:26:55pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

I was, but it was a while ago, back when things were done correctly.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 14, 2016 • 5:39:01pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

:’( That is the worst thing ever to read.

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TedStriker  Apr 14, 2016 • 6:43:08pm

re: #18 lawhawk

Piker.

Everyone must have a sentry gun.

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Video

re: #21 Dr. Matt

WTH is that? A deleted scene?

re: #22 Jack Burton

Yes it’s in the director’s cut.

re: #23 Kragar

Directors Cut and the novel. They had 4 sentry guns which they set up in the corridors leading to the command section before they welded the doors shut.

After the xenomorphs fuck up their first drop ship (and crew), but before they find out the colony’s reactor is a bomb in the making.

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TedStriker  Apr 14, 2016 • 7:41:04pm

re: #99 Nojay UK

I liked the comment the actress who played Vasquez made about the movie’s casting call. She knew it was a movie called “Aliens” and they were looking for a Latina actress to play the part, but that’s all she knew, so she dressed as a Los Angeles Hispanic girl thinking it was about “Illegal aliens”. It took several months of gym work to turn her into the USMC smartgunner we know and love.

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Poetry in motion.

Jenette Goldstein, who later played one of Murtaugh and Riggs’ team members who got offed by the South Africans in Lethal Weapon 2 (she got blown up on the diving board of her pool), then as John Connor’s foster mom in Terminator 2.


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