Corey Lewandowski Says He Won’t Apologize to Michelle Fields, Won’t Acknowledge Touching Her

He feels like he’s untouchable
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Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski

He got away with assaulting Michelle Fields and now he’s once again denying he even touched her: Corey Lewandowski says he won’t apologize to Michelle Fields.

“Do you now acknowledge that you did touch Ms. Fields and that she is not delusional?” Wallace asked.

“Well, no,” Lewandowski said. “What I acknowledge is the sum total of my relationship with Ms. Fields was caught on that videotape. She’s an individual I had never met before, had never spoken to before.”

The campaign manager insisted that the exchange was neither violent, nor “memorable.”

“The whole incident lasted less than three seconds and was me moving from one location to another location,” he told Wallace. “I would have remembered if I had tried to violently throw someone to the ground or if there were an incident that would have been memorable. And there wasn’t.”

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thedopefishlives  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:40:52pm

This is what you get when you have mercy on a bully. They smile and pretend to be gracious, then as soon as they’re not under the gun anymore, they go right back to their loathsome habits.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:41:38pm

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson apparently almost died this week.

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Great White Snark  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:43:22pm

Just think, the future White House Chief Of Staff.
*somebody wake me up from this nightmare*

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Kragar  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:46:31pm

Remember that Trump only hires the best people he can find.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:47:22pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson apparently almost died this week.

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I thought it was a bit quiet in his little corner of the Interwebs. Erick, son of Erick, we almost missed you. Almost.

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:47:29pm

re: #4 Kragar

Remember that Trump only hires the best people he can find.

Winners!!

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:48:17pm

re: #5 thedopefishlives

I thought it was a bit quiet in his little corner of the Interwebs. Erick, son of Erick, we almost missed you. Almost.

Invectives!!

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Shimshon  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:48:54pm

The right wing authoritarian strategy of keep digging and denying until the end has worked out for them for decades so why should they stop now?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:49:39pm

Erickson is complaining about the hatred in his Twitter timeline too - and he’s also been targeted for going off the reservation and criticizing Donald Trump.

The right wing eats its own, if they start to think for themselves. Always.

I saw this coming. It’s why I publicly renounced the right years ago.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:49:46pm
At this point I have to wonder if Michelle Fields will learn a hard lesson about how valueless women are in the right wing movement.

Fox News hires a lot of women, so the misogyny is the fault of only a few bad apples.

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Great White Snark  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:50:00pm

How does this not violate the deal for no charges?!

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:50:17pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson apparently almost died this week.

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He seems pretty young for a pulmonary embolism.

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William Lewis  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:51:52pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson apparently almost died this week.

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One could almost hope he’d get the hint from those mentions, but he won’t..

Kyrie eleison…

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jaunte  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:53:26pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:54:07pm

re: #11 Great White Snark

How does this not violate the deal for no charges?!

I was thinking the same thing, but then I thought ‘Florida Prosecutors’. I’m sure they’ve washed their hands of this and don’t care any more, if they ever did.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 17, 2016 • 6:56:45pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Erickson is complaining about the hatred in his Twitter timeline too - and he’s also been targeted for going off the reservation and criticizing Donald Trump.

The right wing eats its own, if they start to think for themselves. Always.

I saw this coming. It’s why I publicly renounced the right years ago.

Right-wingers are terrified of independent thought. Controlling the information flow is how they maintain their power. They use public shaming as their tool for enforcing groupthink. Once you stop being afraid of what your friends and family think of you, they don’t control you anymore.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:00:28pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson apparently almost died this week.

Hopefully, he didn’t have tubes uncomfortably thrust down his throat and/or nose. Thrust forcefully.

Speaking of which, thanks President Obama and the Democratic Party for keeping my hospital costs so low over the past few years. Otherwise, I would be in debt for tens of thousands of dollars.

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MsJ  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:02:29pm

re: #13 William Lewis

One could almost hope he’d get the hint from those mentions, but he won’t..

Kyrie eleison…

Or take it that god’s telling him he’s doing it all wrong.

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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:03:04pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson apparently almost died this week.

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The Obama big med death panel gave him the thumbs up.

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MsJ  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:04:23pm

Has anyone else noticed the insane number of big earthquakes in the last week? My app usually has a bunch between 2 and 4.5. But the number between 4.5 and 7+ are crazy. A couple dozen if not more.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:08:48pm

re: #20 MsJ

Has anyone else noticed the insane number of big earthquakes in the last week? My app usually has a bunch between 2 and 4.5. But the number between 4.5 and 7+ are crazy. A couple dozen if not more.

The wacky thing is it happens every day, some days more forcefully than others.

Plate tectonics
Give me a break
You ain’t nothin’
But an earthquake

Worst The Runaways song ever. ;-)

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b.d.  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:10:34pm

re: #19 stpaulbear

The Obama big med death panel gave him the thumbs up.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:10:42pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:12:04pm

re: #22 b.d.

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I knew it!!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:16:18pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:17:45pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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Yes, they could, but it would probably involve exposing themselves in public.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:25:15pm

The latest issue of the Bernie Sanders newsletter has a pretty hard hitting piece about Hillary.

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MsJ  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:27:47pm

re: #21 De Kolta Chair

The wacky thing is it happens every day, some days more forcefully than others.

Plate tectonics
Give me a break
You ain’t nothin’
But an earthquake

Worst The Runaways song ever. ;-)

Not at these numbers with this frequency spread across like five continents. (I was in an earthquake and it FREAKED. ME. OUT. I follow them now kinda regularly on my app. Fourteen in the last few days as what the USGS classifies as Significant.)

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thedopefishlives  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:28:24pm

Kind of on the topic of my first post in this thread, but - I’ve heard of a couple of people recently who committed suicide due to abusive bullying. That’s exactly what this Lewandowski incident strikes me as - perhaps some on the misogynistic side, but it’s bullying and physical intimidation. I was a nerd growing up in school, so I can well empathize with those who suffer physically and mentally/emotionally at the hands of those who seek control. People think it’s no big deal, everyone deals with it, just brush it off and ignore it, but it’s not that easy and many people don’t realize just how close to the edge some of us come while suffering through it. It inflicts a form of PTSD that is most insidious because nobody will take it seriously as a problem that needs addressing. And if you do take your own life, everyone is left baffled as to why. Routine physical and mental abuse is not okay, and it isn’t to be brushed off as irrelevant or “just something everyone deals with”.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:34:22pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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This right after his surrogate called Hillary a whore, then tried to cover for it by lying and saying he was calling democratic party congresspeople whores.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:39:05pm
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BroncD  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:45:20pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Of course they wouldn’t donate to other Dems. They hate Democrats.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:46:08pm

re: #29 thedopefishlives

Did you read the Monica Lewinsky interview in the Guardian?

Talks about shaming. Also mentions the girl who was publicly shamed after joking at Arlington National Cemetery.

Very good interview.

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gwangung  Apr 17, 2016 • 7:52:07pm

re: #32 BroncD

Of course they wouldn’t donate to other Dems. They hate Democrats.

They have a paltry line up of preferred candidate. Many of them are in safe, deep blue districts.

That is not going to get the job done.

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Kragar  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:06:37pm
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:08:31pm

re: #13 William Lewis

One could almost hope he’d get the hint from those mentions, but he won’t..

Kyrie eleison…

Mr. Mister - Kyrie

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:08:37pm

Bernie supporter justifies his sickening misogyny by saying the Vatican is misogynistic, but it doesn’t even occur to him that this might play into Sorondo’s demeaning treatment of Archer.

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:11:21pm

re: #35 Kragar

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I like the guy who totally misses the point:

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Belafon  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:16:30pm

Of course I would love to not have to do fundraising to get the best candidates. But that’s not how it currently works. To beat the current system, Democrats will have to win. It sometimes reminds me of part of the description of The Stainless Steel Rat for President: “He’s vowed to restore truth, justice, and democracy to the world of Paraiso-Aqui, if he has to lie, cheat, and steal to do it!”

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:22:21pm

re: #39 Belafon

Of course I would love to not have to do fundraising to get the best candidates. But that’s not how it currently works. To beat the current system, Democrats will have to win. It sometimes reminds me of part of the description of The Stainless Steel Rat for President: “He’s vowed to restore truth, justice, and democracy to the world of Paraiso-Aqui, if he has to lie, cheat, and steal to do it!”

There’s no way out of that part of the system. Raising political stature enough to win most state-wide races requires large amounts of money. Especially in states with major media markets.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:23:54pm

re: #28 MsJ

Not at these numbers with this frequency spread across like five continents. (I was in an earthquake and it FREAKED. ME. OUT. I follow them now kinda regularly on my app. Fourteen in the last few days as what the USGS classifies as Significant.)

I lived in San Francisco in the eighties (we left a few months before the big one) and got so used to earthquakes that my friends still joke about how blase I was about them. “A quake? Oh please, I’m getting my beauty sleep. Zzzzz.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:28:17pm

re: #38 Belafon

I like the guy who totally misses the point:

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CuriousLurker  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:29:51pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson apparently almost died this week.

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re: #23 Charles Johnson

Yet he felt well enough to RT the bit of nastiness below yesterday, therefore I find myself unable to scrape together any sympathy for him. I have no sympathy for terrorists either, but I sure as hell don’t celebrate news like that (if it’s even true) by calling it a “feel-good story.”

They’re always touting their Christianity too (like “drop trou” Loesch). You’d think that if they truly believed in an omniscient, all-powerful God they’d reflect a bit on their actions and proceed with more caution.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:30:48pm

re: #39 Belafon

Good point about money in politics, and I’ve long dreamed of a Stainless Steel Rat movie done right.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:32:08pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

Misogynistic misogynist is misogyning

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CuriousLurker  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:39:04pm

Anyhoo… wingnuts, basta!

G’nite, lizards.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:41:56pm

Lewandowski reminds of that guy who’s a douchebag jock in High School and then you go to the Reunion 10, 15 years later and he’s STILL the exact same douchebag jock.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:43:34pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Could you possibly look any more misogynistic?

Sure they could. By showing up at a Trump rally.

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:46:07pm

Ugh. I’m not proud of some of the things I said here last night. Ski season is coming to a close, and that makes me sad/angry.

I don’t apologize for what I said, but I know I’m better than that. Should have followed the Iron Fist rule!

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:46:37pm

re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg

Lewandowski reminds of that guy who’s a douchebag jock in High School and then you go to the Reunion 10, 15 years later and he’s STILL the exact same douchebag jock.

Even worse, he’s now the chief factorum for an even bigger jerk.

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:49:21pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:49:46pm

Here’s The Who going nuts with “Barbara Ann,” which I discovered to my shocked amazement a couple of minutes ago wasn’t a Beach Boys/Brian Wilson original but was written by Fred Fassert and first recorded by The Regents. Anyway, check out Keith and the gang on this take. It’s dyn-o-mite!

The Who - Barbara Ann.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:50:27pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Ugh. I’m not proud of some of the things I said here last night. Ski season is coming to a close, and that makes me sad/angry.

I don’t apologize for what I said, but I know I’m better than that. Should have followed the Iron Fist rule!

I doubt you’ll much want sympathy from me, but you’ve got it. I know what its like to have emotions get the better of a man. It can happen to most people, the trick is knowing that it happened and admitting it. Which you just did.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:55:17pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:56:02pm

Hey Dark_Falcon

And I actually do apologize for some of the things I said to you. I was a nasty son of a bitch.

I still want to shoot guns with you, though!

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:56:48pm

And yes, I was drunk. And high. And cranky.

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Unabogie  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:56:49pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson apparently almost died this week.

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Apparently, I have no capacity for good will.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:59:15pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Hey Dark_Falcon

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And I actually do apologize for some of the things I said to you. I was a nasty son of a bitch.

I still want to shoot guns with you, though!

Apology accepted. Going shooting won’t be something I can do for a while. After paying my taxes money is gonna be tight the rest of this month.

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 8:59:49pm

OMG

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:00:48pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

Apology accepted. Going shooting won’t be something I can do for a while. After paying my taxes money is gonna be tight the rest of this month.

Yeah, that and I’m in Colorado and you’re in Chicago. Makes it kind of hard to go shooting on the weekend.

:)

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:02:12pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Hey Dark_Falcon

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And I actually do apologize for some of the things I said to you. I was a nasty son of a bitch.

I still want to shoot guns with you, though!

Bette Midler - Friends

No sarcasm meant, only mild lunacy.

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:03:54pm

I’m somewhere in this mess.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:05:13pm
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:07:21pm

So if Hillary beats Sanders soundly in the Empire Primary on Tuesday, do folks think that will finally put Sanders away? Or will she need to wait till the Keystone State votes next week to do that?

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:09:40pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

So if Hillary beats Sanders soundly in the Empire Primary on Tuesday, do folks think that will finally put Sanders away? Or will she need to wait till the Keystone State votes next week to do that?

The way Bernie and his surrogates have been acting, I’m think they’re going to go all the way to California like the petulant little children they are.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:10:42pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

The way Bernie and his surrogates have been acting, I’m think they’re going to go all the way to California like the petulant little children they are.

^^^

What he said.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:13:46pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

I’m somewhere in this mess.

Like duh, your sultry Ingrid Bergmanesque eyebrows set you apart. Anyone with an electron microscope can see that. ;-)

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gwangung  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:13:56pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

The way Bernie and his surrogates have been acting, I’m think they’re going to go all the way to California like the petulant little children they are.

There are ways to go all the way to the end, WITHOUT sounding like petulant children.

Not sure how many Sanders supporters are going to do that, though….

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:14:42pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

The way Bernie and his surrogates have been acting, I’m think they’re going to go all the way to California like the petulant little children they are.

Even then he may not concede. He’s addicted to all the attention he’s receiving, and his campaign’s official stance now is that a popular vote & pledged delegate majority don’t matter.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:17:20pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

The way Bernie and his surrogates have been acting, I’m think they’re going to go all the way to California like the petulant little children they are.

Though that would be tough, given that sanders has to make a good showing this Tuesday and next to be able to compete in California. The Golden State is the most expensive state to compete in, bar none. Three major media markets, and at least two others of notable size make reaching California voters very costly. It’s also a big state so transportation costs are an issue as well.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:18:07pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

Though that would be tough, given that sanders has to make a good showing this Tuesday and next to be able to compete in California. The Golden State is the most expensive state to compete in, bar none. Three major media markets, and at least two others of notable size make reaching California voters very costly. It’s also a big state so transportation costs are an issue as well.

He has money to Bern.

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Unabogie  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:23:32pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

Even then he may not concede. He’s addicted to all the attention he’s receiving, and his campaign’s official stance now is that a popular vote & pledged delegate majority don’t matter.

I’m not a Bernfeeler, buy no one is a mind reader and we don’t know what’s in Bernie’s head.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:25:16pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Perhaps, there was $430,000 that could have been used for transporting Bernie and his family and staff. This is why we don’t spend all our money in one place, say, in Rome…

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:28:14pm

This some rowdy shit. I skied Crested Butte a lot in college, I’ve actually skied one or two of these lines in this ridiculous video.

Back at the Butte

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:30:50pm

This article sums up my feelings exactly. It’s fairly long but incredibly well written and reads quickly. I highly recommend it:

On Becoming Anti-Bernie

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When I saw that the estimates were based on the assumption that the U.S. economy would have an average growth at a 5% rate over his term, that was it for me. And the reason is this: when Jeb! announced he was running for President, he declared that his plan would result in a 4% economic growth rate — and the other GOP presidential contenders quickly followed suit. The Republican candidates’ claims that they “would” do this had been derided on all the same left-leaning blog sites I was now looking at to help assess Sanders. The 4% assertion had been dismissed as “magical thinking” — or in more straightforward terms, “pulled out of Bush’s ass.” There was no precedent for a sustained growth rate that high; commentators pointed out that Reagan had achieved 4% twice in eight years, and Bill Clinton, five times, but 4% growth four years running? Never happened — and that was in better economic environments. Sanders’ 5% number was even more magical than Jeb!’s. And so the entire basis of Sanders’ promises for (promises I wanted to believe) was a historically unprecedented assumption. You can’t base a radical re-imagination of the U.S. economy and the imposition of the largest tax increases in U.S. history on made-up numbers. Sanders was able to find a single economist to weigh in positively on his plan, but that analysis was ripped to shreds by most others, who showed that Sanders’ plan doesn’t add up on its own terms (estimates are something like a $1-2 trillion shortfall even at the 5% growth assumption). So I concluded that the backbone of Sanders’ plan is founded on, functionally, a lie.

That led me to more research. I concluded that the fact that Sanders only got three bills through Congress (two of which were for naming post offices) wasn’t the only meaningful measure, so I looked at the legislation he introduced during his senate career. It turns out that, every year, year after year, he introduced the same legislation to make a point, and no one else ever seems to have signed on to it. To me, this looked like showmanship rather than governance — an exercise designed to highlight his own support for a very progressive agenda. The hard work is to draft a bill that your co-legislators can get behind, in the political climate that exists and in the place where you work. I concluded that Sanders was less interested in actually accomplishing anything than he was in staging protests where he could claim some kind of moral high ground, not interested in getting in the weeds and doing anything to actually achieve his goals within the Congress he worked in. This research put Sanders’ supposedly pristine progressive agenda in perspective: it is very easy to maintain that agenda if you never make the hard choices necessary to get things done. Classic protester — yet handily collecting his $200,000 pay check and his lifetime of benefits while doing little to enact actual progressive policies to improve people’s lives.

I did more research than the above, but the two overarching themes I just described (magical thinking and ideological purity over practicality) seem tied together in terms of what Sanders has to offer the country with respect to governance. Further, those themes reveal a person who, while he has deep convictions about the ills of income inequality (which I wholeheartedly share), seems to be constitutionally incapable or unwilling to undertake the difficult task of actually coming up with workable, meaningful legislation and therefore who, in his own way, actually lacks character. What I started to see, and which seems to be on view more and more as this campaign goes on, is a person and a campaign that is intellectually and actually dishonest, hypocritical and sanctimonious, sexist, unprepared, lazy, cultish, and dangerous — and he has a poor temperament to boot.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:33:50pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

This some rowdy shit. I skied Crested Butte a lot in college, I’ve actually skied one or two of these lines in this ridiculous video.

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Video

Dude, that last one is INSANE. I would kill myself trying to do that. Wow.

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Kragar  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:34:34pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:35:02pm
2017: Sarah Jane Smith found President Trump’s first cabinet meeting to be a bit disconcerting to say the least.
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:55:18pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:57:43pm

Sweet dreams, gators, and remember, Sue Storm is probably bugging your phone.

“Jolly” Jack Kirby
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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 9:58:18pm

Ski patrol explodes some avalanche bombs on the last day of spinning lifts. I’m about 10 feet behind the camera, somewhere.

Facebook Video

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:14:14pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Yeah I’m another one looking at that last 30 seconds like @@ WTF THATS A CLIFF DONT GO OFF THAT YOU CRAZY PERSON Oohhhhhhh he totally went off it OMG how does that even work :O

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BeachDem  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:17:21pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Think how much cash they would have thrown if the 1800 who signed up on facebook had shown up, instead of the 100 who actually did. (The whole thing was idiotic from start to finish.)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:18:11pm

Dilma’s in trouble down in Brazil.

Brazil’s lower house has voted to start impeachment proceedings against President Dilma Rousseff over charges of manipulating government accounts.

The “yes” camp comfortably won the required two-thirds majority, after a lengthy session in the capital.

The motion will now be sent to the upper house, the Senate, which is expected to suspend Ms Rousseff while it carries out a formal trial.

She denies the charges, and accuses her opponents of mounting a “coup”.

Brazil’s governing Workers’ Party said “the fight continues now in the Senate”, which is expected to consider the case in May.

bbc.com

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BeachDem  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:18:43pm

re: #34 gwangung

They have a paltry line up of preferred candidate. Many of them are in safe, deep blue districts.

That is not going to get the job done.

And of the three that Bernie’s touting, two are primarying other Dems who, I guess, aren’t pure enough for the REVOLUTION.

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gwangung  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:22:18pm

re: #77 Kragar

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Aren’t there ways to get small improvements through Congress that don’t look very big, but have large impacts down the line? Wasn’t Obama a master at this? And wouldn’t Hilary make at least a good apprentice at this?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:24:10pm

Sanders campaign officially trying to downplay importance of NY.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:26:17pm

It seems I am more well read in Spanish literature than some Spaniards.

Only 2 in 10 have read Don Quijote in its entirety. I’ve read it in English and Spanish at least three times each. [In college, because I had to, but whatever.]
bbc.com

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:31:05pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:41:45pm

This one’s for Sergey. Have you seen it?

bbc.com

People are trying to identify an old duffer wiping away tears during a Victory Day parade. He’s the sole surviving member of his WWII unit, it seems, but no one bothered to get his name.

Amusingly, people in different countries seeing the photo claimed the man as a fellow countryman.

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Shimshon  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:43:53pm

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

The Presidential vote isn’t a popularity contest, a real poll needs to go state by state and see who can win the most electoral college votes.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:45:44pm

So wait, I log off cuz I’m sleepy and then get a second wind and log back on and find that everyone is making Monty Python jokes? This is what goes on past 1 am Eastern Time? Shame and scandal!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz//////////////

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 10:48:32pm

re: #91 Shimshon

The Presidential vote isn’t a popularity contest, a real poll needs to go state by state and see who can win the most electoral college votes.

Electoral college votes don’t matter in primary polling. The poll in that tweet is of New York, and including Independents in a poll of a closed primary State gives the impression that the race there is much tighter than it actually is.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 17, 2016 • 11:13:28pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 11:20:15pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

The person who runs the “Saint Gore” Twitter account reminds me of this guy.

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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 11:26:44pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 17, 2016 • 11:31:01pm

It snowed a fuckton in a short amount of time just west of Denver.

Four Feet of Snow Time Lapse in Evergreen Colorado - April 2016

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 17, 2016 • 11:34:14pm

re: #72 Unabogie

I’m not a Bernfeeler…

I should hope not. If nothing else, I think Jane would object.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:01:49am

Facebook Post

I’m looking at that picture all like

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:17:28am

Seriously, if you have a Twitter account you’ll love this.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:36:44am

I’m still atoning for my ugly personal attacks I flung about with reckless abandon last night.

I’m better than that.

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Cheechako  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:38:43am

re: #101 teleskiguy

I’m still atoning for my ugly personal attacks I flung about with reckless abandon last night.

I’m better than that.

Hey…everythings cool!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:44:45am

Lions in Namibia seem to attack livestock on white-supremacist ranches more than on ranches where there are better relationships between owners and workers. Does this mean lions hate racists?

Maybe, but there’s more to the story.

What we discovered was there were farms where the managers were both racist and violent towards their workers, which demotivated employees to perform well at their jobs. Racist managers also tended not to see the benefits of training their staff in more effective livestock husbandry, meaning employees were not skilled in protecting their cows and sheep from predators.

Workers sometimes stole livestock to sell on for profit and told the farmer that a predator had come in the night

Many of the workers were also very poorly educated and some didn’t even know how to count properly. The farmer was asking the workers to go out and move a 250-herd of cattle from one field to another and check that none had been left behind, but you cannot expect them to do that if they can’t count to 100. This meant the livestock that were left behind were more likely to be eaten by predators.

bbc.com

Moral: Treat your workers like fellow human beings, and they’ll do a good job. Treat them like shit, and you get what you deserve.

Simba says so.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:48:52am

re: #102 Cheechako

Hey…everythings cool!

I know.

Thing is, it’s not my first time being an unmitigated asshole here. It’s good to take stock in things and make a concerted effort to clean up my mess. After all, I’ve been told by other Lizards that I’m a valuable Lizard and it’d be a shame if Stinky Beaumont had to whack me with his ban hammer, unlikely as it is.

Truth be told, it’s been an emotional roller coaster for me the last few weeks. Lots of amazing highs and lots of depressing lows. It’s funny, I go through this every year, right before my birthday and right when the ski areas close. Like clockwork. No excuse for what I said, but it explains some things.

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Cheechako  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:52:11am

re: #104 teleskiguy

It’s easy for us to tell when you’re in a good mood….plenty of Humpty McGoo videos.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:52:48am

re: #104 teleskiguy

I know.

Thing is, it’s not my first time being an unmitigated asshole here. It’s good to take stock in things and make a concerted effort to clean up my mess. After all, I’ve been told by other Lizards that I’m a valuable Lizard and it’d be a shame if Stinky Beaumont had to whack me with his ban hammer, unlikely as it is.

Truth be told, it’s been an emotional roller coaster for me the last few weeks. Lots of amazing highs and lots of depressing lows. It’s funny, I go through this every year, right before my birthday and right when the ski areas close. Like clockwork. No excuse for what I said, but it explains some things.

Chill out, bro. We’re all bozos on this bus.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:53:59am

re: #105 Cheechako

It’s easy for us to tell when you’re in a good mood….plenty of Humpty McGoo videos.

They’re called Uncle’s McGeefford! Get it right or pay the price!

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Cheechako  Apr 18, 2016 • 12:56:15am

re: #107 teleskiguy

They’re called Uncle’s McGeefford! Get it right or pay the price!

I’m a certified old fart….GET OFF MY LAWN!

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:00:07am

re: #108 Cheechako

I’m a certified old fart….GET OFF MY LAWN!

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:00:38am

Fun fact. It’s 2 a.m. I still have my snow pants on.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:02:21am

re: #84 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Dilma’s in trouble down in Brazil.

bbc.com

Oh no, not Brazillary!
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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:02:37am

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Chill out, bro. We’re all bozos on this bus.

A sixty-something (?) English teacher in China told me to “chill out, bro” on the Internet.

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Cheechako  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:03:54am

re: #109 teleskiguy

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That looks like me….shooting at an empty chair….on my lawn.

It’s midnight here so time to call it a day.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:08:35am

re: #112 teleskiguy

A sixty-something (?) English teacher in China told me to “chill out, bro” on the Internet.

Embedded Image

Exactly 60 (+ 3 months), whippersnapper.

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:47:27am
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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:52:26am

Bow Tie Daddy
Don’t You Blow Your Top
Everything’s Under Control
Bow Tie Daddy
Don’t You Blow Your Top
‘Cause You Think You’re Getting Too Old
Don’t Try And Do No Thinkin’
Just Go On With Your Drinkin’
And Have Your Fun You Old Son Of A Gun
And Drive Home In Your Lincoln

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:52:28am

This tweet is the end of an incredibly insightful thread. Storified version here.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:53:48am
The Pentagon misled Congress with inaccurate and vague information about sexual assault cases that portrayed civilian law enforcement officials as less willing than military commanders to punish sex offenders, an Associated Press investigation found.

Local district attorneys and police forces failed to act against U.S. service members who were subsequently prosecuted in military courts for sex crimes, according to internal government records that summarized the outcomes of dozens of cases. But in a number of cases, the steps taken by civilian authorities were described incorrectly or omitted. Other case descriptions were too imprecise to be verified.

There also is nothing in the records that supports the primary reason the Pentagon told Congress about the cases in the first place: To show top military brass as hard-nosed crime fighters who insisted on taking the cases to trial.

wtop.com

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:06:38am
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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:28:49am

re: #49 teleskiguy

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:38:37am

re: #57 Unabogie

Ok, I had to wonder if Eric fucked goats and found where I think you got the theme of your comment. Eric is vile:
Erickson calls Souter a “goat fucking child molester.” On his Twitter account, Erickson responded to Souter’s retirement from the Supreme Court by stating, “The nation loses the only goat fucking child molester ever to serve on the Supreme Court.”

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sagehen  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:42:51am

re: #10 Belafon

Fox News hires a lot of women, so the misogyny is the fault of only a few bad apples. her own fault for not being pretty enough

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FTFY

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teleskiguy  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:48:52am

re: #120 Ming5000

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:06:30am

re: #119 Ace-o-aces

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Does Cruz’s repellant skin-crawling nature count as “empirical evidence”?

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sagehen  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:09:37am

Nah, that’s a subjective judgment.

“empirical” evidence is quantifiable. it can be charted on a graph. “oh yuck” and a shudder cannot be expressed numerically.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:16:32am

re: #124 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

Does Cruz’s repellant skin-crawling nature count as “empirical evidence”?

Or unfavorable numbers comparable to Trump?

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SirMixALot  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:28:31am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Erickson is complaining about the hatred in his Twitter timeline too - and he’s also been targeted for going off the reservation and criticizing Donald Trump.

The right wing eats its own, if they start to think for themselves. Always.

I saw this coming. It’s why I publicly renounced the right years ago.

I’m starting to see the Left eating its own with the behavior of the Sander’s supporters harassing super-delegates, threatening to primary Democrats and throwing dollar bills at Hillary’s motorcade like she was a stripper. The Sanders campaign has created the left wing version of the Tea Party or as Joy Reid has called them The Green Tea Party.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:45:45am

“Untouchable” will be the ethical basis for a Trump administration.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:51:26am

re: #125 sagehen

Nah, that’s a subjective judgment.

“empirical” evidence is quantifiable. it can be charted on a graph. “oh yuck” and a shudder cannot be expressed numerically.

But 100,000 “oh yucks” can, for which Nate Silver is eternally grateful.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:53:18am

re: #127 SirMixALot

I’m starting to see the Left eating its own with the behavior of the Sander’s supporters harassing super-delegates, threatening to primary Democrats and throwing dollar bills at Hillary’s motorcade like she was a stripper. The Sanders campaign has created the left wing version of the Tea Party or as Joy Reid has called them The Green Tea Party.

“The Green Tea Party” does have a nice ring to it.

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Archangelus  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:31:51am

re: #130 Eventual Carrion

“The Green Tea Party” does have a nice ring to it.

True, though “The White Tea Party” would be more fitting (though the current, right wing Tea Party would pitch a fit over the claim that it’s their thing)…

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Archangelus  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:34:05am

Accidental double-post after browser crash/restore.

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:37:38am

So Monica is in the news again, sigh.

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Scout  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:37:55am

The right-wing tea party has done severe damage to the United States through strong organizational efforts — managing to elect many of their own to public office.

I have a hard time seeing the Sanders’ folks working that hard for the long haul necessary.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:46:18am

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

So if Hillary beats Sanders soundly in the Empire Primary on Tuesday, do folks think that will finally put Sanders away? Or will she need to wait till the Keystone State votes next week to do that?

Not a question of if. Or even when, but by how much. All the polls are showing Hillary up by at least 10 points, and they’ve been trending wider, not narrowing the gap (latest post debate poll show Hillary up 15). Problem for Bernie is that he can’t just win narrow. He needs blowout wins by at least 15 points from here on out, and his problem is that he’s losing all the major upcoming states by that margin.

He’s got to get 30 point turnarounds, and it just isn’t going to happen. Less than 24 hours before NY goes to the poll and he’s going to not only lose ground to Hillary, but Hillary’s going to get oh so close to 2,383 after supers are included. And once the supers see that she’s in that position (which she’s frankly been since Super Tuesday), they’re going to seal the deal no matter how much Bernie fans whine - and in particular people like Shaun King will complain bitterly about how the system oppresses or is stacked in Hillary’s favor, even though it’s been designed this way since after 1968 and Hillary’s doing to Bernie what Obama did to Hillary 8 years ago.

Basic math.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:47:36am

re: #135 lawhawk

An addendum - except 8 years ago, Hillary had a short lived lead in delegates, but Obama ended up taking it on delegates.

Bernie has never been ahead in total votes, delegates, or super delegates. And of those three, it’s only the latter 2 that ultimately count - 2,383.

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Archangelus  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:49:46am

re: #136 lawhawk

An addendum - except 8 years ago, Hillary had a short lived lead in delegates, but Obama ended up taking it on delegates.

Bernie has never been ahead in total votes, delegates, or super delegates. And of those three, it’s only the latter 2 that ultimately count - 2,383.

Bingo (was just about to post the same point). Bernie’s never been in the position he’s needed to pull a victory since the whole campaign started.

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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:52:20am

Good morning Lizards,

It’s only one more day until New York becomes an insignificant southern state.

Hope all have a good week.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:53:01am

re: #133 Kent Dorfman

So Monica is in the news again, sigh.

Nothing compared to the influence she’ll wield in Chelsea’s 2032 campaign.

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Scout  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:02:10am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Nothing compared to the influence she’ll wield in Chelsea’s 2032 campaign.

Just to torque off one of my Republican friends, I sent him this text a few months ago:

Here’s the plan:
2016 Hillary - Michelle
2024 Michelle - Chelsea
2032 Chelsea - Malia
Etc. etc. etc.

(P.S. No, I didn’t bother to do the math to see if the daughters would be 35 by then.)

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Archangelus  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:02:18am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Nothing compared to the influence she’ll wield in Chelsea’s 2032 campaign.

Is it wrong that I look at that line and fantasize of how any references to the GOP made at that point in time will be exclusively in the past tense?

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Archangelus  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:04:35am

re: #140 Scout

Your dates are fundamentally wrong!!! Where’s Al Gore III’s time in office?! //

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:06:57am

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

This article sums up my feelings exactly. It’s fairly long but incredibly well written and reads quickly. I highly recommend it:

Does anyone know if there is a place where you can see the bills submitted and sponsored by each member of Congress? Like, what legislation was submitted by Sanders? It would be really nice if it included how far each bill made it through the process.

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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:15:07am

re: #143 Belafon

Does anyone know if there is a place where you can see the bills submitted and sponsored by each member of Congress? Like, what legislation was submitted by Sanders? It would be really nice if it included how far each bill made it through the process.

govtrack.us

Try that?

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:16:24am

re: #144 b.d.

govtrack.us

Try that?

Thanks, I will later.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:18:07am

Sweet jeebus, that’s a lot of rain. That’s hurricane/tropic rainfall quantities:

Stay safe Texas!

On another note, I can’t wait for Ted Cruz, the US Senator from Texas, to demand immediate federal assistance and relief, without any preconditions, offsets, or other acts, to compensate Texans for the damaged done due to these storms, which is in direct contrast to how he and other GOPers have denied, delayed, and pushed for offsets to aid to Northeastern states after Sandy (or Zadroga aid, etc).

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:21:21am

re: #146 lawhawk

Sweet jeebus, that’s a lot of rain. That’s hurricane/tropic rainfall quantities:

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Stay safe Texas!

On another note, I can’t wait for Ted Cruz, the US Senator from Texas, to demand immediate federal assistance and relief, without any preconditions, offsets, or other acts, to compensate Texans for the damaged done due to these storms, which is in direct contrast to how he and other GOPers have denied, delayed, and pushed for offsets to aid to Northeastern states after Sandy (or Zadroga aid, etc).

We got 3 in” outside of Austin through this event. Getting ready to come down again. Luckily there has been no real flooding here in this area. LaGrange, which is between here and Houston got about 10” last nite.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:22:35am

re: #147 Dave In Austin

We got 3 in” outside of Austin through this event. Getting ready to come down again. Luckily there has been no real flooding here in this area. LaGrange, which is between here and Houston got about 10” last nite.

It’s gonna come down
in that Texas town

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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:22:43am

re: #146 lawhawk

Sweet jeebus, that’s a lot of rain. That’s hurricane/tropic rainfall quantities:

[Embedded content]

Stay safe Texas!

On another note, I can’t wait for Ted Cruz, the US Senator from Texas, to demand immediate federal assistance and relief, without any preconditions, offsets, or other acts, to compensate Texans for the damaged done due to these storms, which is in direct contrast to how he and other GOPers have denied, delayed, and pushed for offsets to aid to Northeastern states after Sandy (or Zadroga aid, etc).

Holy smokes, looks like Houston got the flooding rain that was supposed to hit us, and missed, in DFW.

Ted will demand assistance, his house is in Houston.

Ron Paul’s district was on the Texas coast and every time they got clobbered by a storm he never asked for aide but one of his buds would always chime up and ask in his stead.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:23:20am

re: #141 Archangelus

Is it wrong that I look at that line and fantasize of how any references to the GOP made at that point in time will be exclusively in the past tense?

It’ll be Chelsea (Democrat) v perennial favorite Sanders (Post-Socialist).

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:26:20am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Erick Erickson apparently almost died this week.

Well, I wish him the best.

But he dishes out a fair amount of invective himself, so I don’t think he should be surprised.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:28:42am

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

Very interesting YouGov poll shows Clinton leading Sanders by 10%, INCLUDING independent voters in a closed primary. pic.twitter.com
— Alex Katz

Well, maybe they can change the closed primary rule before tomorrow so I’s can vote in the Dem primary and determine the Dem nominee.*

*an actual argument being put forward by people on the Intertubes.

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MsJ  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:34:41am

re: #57 Unabogie

Apparently, I have no capacity for good will.

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Moreso than me. At least you wished him a get well soon. Me? Not so much.

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:47:54am

He’s willing and ready to beat up the Democratic Party.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:53:21am

re: #154 Jenner7

I think that tune might change after tomorrow’s blowout in NY. Reality is a harsh mistress, and while he thinks that he’s got a chance, his odds significantly go down losing to Hillary tomorrow.

All that talk of momentum will go up in flames as NY overwhelms whatever “momentum” Bernie had winning a bunch of states with far fewer delegates at stake than NY.

And Bernie’s about to run into a buzzsaw of states that favor Hillary by at least NY margins, which only adds to Hillary’s tally (and inevitability of the nomination, which frankly has been the case since Super Tuesday).

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:55:54am

re: #154 Jenner7

He’s willing and ready to beat up the Democratic Party.

IIRC, Clinton was claiming the same thing at this point. Yes, she was a lot closer, but it’s what candidates do. It’s just like Rubio claiming victory for coming in third place.

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:55:59am

From the article:

I think it’s great for the party, and I’ll tell you why. The only way the Democrats are going to win, is if there is a large voter turnout. We are helping create that large voter turnout….young people and working people are now participating.

Except, he’s not getting large voter turnout.

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:00:09am

Morning!

After a full week and weekend of media concern over both parties’ primary processes I am wondering if the concern will last past the primary season and we see some demanding for reform of the process. Or, will it all be forgotten as just nothing but media hyperventilation?

I have a feeling it will just be forgotten. And then they can use it again in the next election if needed. Then they can say…”we never learned anything from 2016!”

When in fact they never learned anything from 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2012.

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:08:17am

re: #157 Jenner7

From the article:

Except, he’s not getting large voter turnout.

They see those big rally crowds Bernie turns out, like the last two in New York and that is sold as huge turnouts.

I guess he was said to turn out 28,000 yesterday in Prospect Park. And he had another big one last week.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:16:31am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:21:39am

re: #142 Archangelus

Your dates are fundamentally wrong!!! Where’s Al Gore III’s time in office?! //

He runs for President in 2028 but loses to George P. Bush.

/Nothing but a good time.

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withak  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:26:33am

re: #146 lawhawk

Sweet jeebus, that’s a lot of rain. That’s hurricane/tropic rainfall quantities:

[Embedded content]

Stay safe Texas!

On another note, I can’t wait for Ted Cruz, the US Senator from Texas, to demand immediate federal assistance and relief, without any preconditions, offsets, or other acts, to compensate Texans for the damaged done due to these storms, which is in direct contrast to how he and other GOPers have denied, delayed, and pushed for offsets to aid to Northeastern states after Sandy (or Zadroga aid, etc).

Apparently, my dad is staying home and working from there; that means it must be pretty bad…

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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:29:05am

re: #157 Jenner7

From the article:

Except, he’s not getting large voter turnout.

In Washington state Bernie had 15,000 turn out to see him speak one night at Safeco Field and got a hair over 19,000 caucus votes total for the entire state.

Large speech crowds do not equal large voter turnout.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:30:39am

This is what Rummy’s worried about - that he’s not going to live to see a flat tax. Like so many of the rest of the GOP, they’re in economic fantasy land, where the consequences of these tax policies is massive deficits and shifting the burdens from the rich on to everyone else - those least able to afford the burdens.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:31:06am

re: #163 b.d.

In Washington state Bernie had 15,000 turn out to see him speak one night at Safeco Field and got a hair over 19,000 caucus votes total for the entire state.

Large speech crowds do not equal large voter turnout.

Highlighted for truth.

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Alyosha  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:38:25am

re: #164 lawhawk

How’d that go?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:47:17am
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withak  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:50:31am

re: #166 Alyosha

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How’d that go?

Is… is that for real?

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Alyosha  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:52:39am

re: #168 withak
Apparently.
theatlantic.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:53:31am

Did Tweetdeck change the way they do mute? It used to be you would mute a user and your screen took like 5 minutes to refresh. Now you “mute” somebody, there is no refresh, and their Tweets are still staring you in the eye so you have to block them in order to not see them.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:01:09am

Developing:

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MsJ  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:02:10am

re: #157 Jenner7

From the article:

Except, he’s not getting large voter turnout.

And those who are so enamored with Bernie are the peeps who rarely show up to vote at all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:02:41am
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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:14:24am

If confirmed as a terror bombing, it would be the first one in since 2012 (and before that the last bombing was 2006).

It comes hours after Israel revealed that they discovered a Hamas infiltration tunnel about a week ago and have been studying it to discern how to uncover/stop other tunnels.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:14:25am

re: #55 teleskiguy

Hey Dark_Falcon

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And I actually do apologize for some of the things I said to you. I was a nasty son of a bitch.

I still want to shoot guns with you, though!

Gentlemanly of you to apologize. Class act dude. If you or Dark ever find yourselves near my zip code I’ll arrange a VIP tour and session on my dime at the range I help run from the BOD. With a dinner from our LGF cookbook thrown in.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:14:29am
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Teukka  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:19:48am

That story of the firefighter in trouble for a breastfeeding photo got me into the mood of making meme pics again… May be NSFW in certain places:

KtC9CCkn27+b1+r+GwzXFe/mW9yLLbn8/osj8PKDXe1yaKzzALGj1FlsRPlH5vTwUD818Br4DKyLYsvs9wSJsKtBD1BMSo4WU0d/AhPyJBzivgck7LrzFazYIwLPgPNXXlgNjGrgt1WJzOeIptl0AG0Vn00NkbE3iBORpD+sPghP41juo2NfPjIr8PgWW4KTg9huc7Ci7S0lk3c6rTEMwP1JGRnxUtyobASkb2u6r1J2u+/6jPElZawKsr3elMXIhyzkJV7SkRAidPWSSFFvKRG95yGW3W0M4NdimOkF9oxjkgUTivJSqEM6Q72JhUZoFrU783pgPvXfZ9JHrEenBqkednbnwdrkHla9bvelm2zLPx/U3bTp2JwwmlPExuelcH+NgWm1p+sTmJ5VHlzgFg==


Back Story: usatoday.com

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:22:15am

re: #162 withak

Apparently, my dad is staying home and working from there; that means it must be pretty bad…

Oh it’s bad. Real bad. 60% of the city’s bayous have blown their banks and are flooding homes. Still raining.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:32:57am

re: #178 allegro

I used to sort of track the Texas lakes back in 2014, and then there was that large dose of rain in 2015, thankfully. I wonder if this recent rain will get the lakes to 100%.

Medina Lake 2014
Medina Lake May 2015

The trend
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FormerDirtDart  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:33:50am

Monday morning…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:37:41am

re: #180 FormerDirtDart

Monday morning…

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Warning from Space! This is one of the most impressively demented Japanese Sci-Fi flicks from Public Access Theater.

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:38:01am

Annnd, of course, my local radio host is playing Clooney’s “it’s obscene” comment and not the rest of what he said.

It should be noted that Bernie is spending way more money than Hillary. If it’s so obscene, Bernie, why are you spending it in states you’re losing big time?

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Teukka  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:40:10am

re: #177 Teukka
Erm. Got photographers name wrong. Corrected.
Image gallery image now contains correct name.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:45:29am

re: #181 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Warning from Space! This is one of the most impressively demented Japanese Sci-Fi flicks from Public Access Theater.

What better way to utilize my Amazon Prime trial membership

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Lidane  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:45:41am

re: #147 Dave In Austin

We got 3 in” outside of Austin through this event. Getting ready to come down again. Luckily there has been no real flooding here in this area. LaGrange, which is between here and Houston got about 10” last nite.

LaGrange got more than that. They got almost 14” of rain in the last two days:

kxan.com

It’s insane. I don’t envy them at all. A friend of mine in Rockdale got almost 6” of rain. Houston is underwater. So far here in Austin it’s not awful, but I’m not holding my breath. We’ll get hit harder at some point.

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:47:44am

re: #146 lawhawk

Sweet jeebus, that’s a lot of rain. That’s hurricane/tropic rainfall quantities:

So this is what happens when the atmosphere gets warm enough to hold just a leetle more moisture. One area in the northwest has gotten 20” of rain overnight. The bayous are rising out of their banks and closing I-10 in places. Houston is basically shut down. Schools are closed, the mayor is on tv telling everyone to stay home. I wonder what the lost productivity cost will be.

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:49:48am

The rain is predicted to continue through Wednesday.

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:51:05am
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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:53:36am

‘Morning, Lizards,

I was away from the ‘puter for nearly the whole weekend (save for a Facebook Ad placement fiasco that I’d rather not talk about), and the lovely wife and I headed out to Brooklyn Botanical Gardens to view things in bloom.

And it’s absolutely gorgeous here in LI today. I’m seriously considering cashing in one of those ‘play hooky’ chips in the glass case on the wall.

How’s by you?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:57:05am
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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:58:11am

re: #191 The Vicious Babushka

Did they level it?

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withak  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:00:12am

re: #190 Alephnaught

Not The Onion:

“Boaty McBoatface may not be name of new polar research vessel”

People who decide that Internet polls should decide meaningful things should be forced to deal with the consequences.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:00:56am

re: #193 withak

I don’t think it is such a bad name.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:01:14am

re: #172 MsJ

And those who are so enamored with Bernie are the peeps who rarely show up to vote at all.

As are many of these Trump enthusiasts. I know of at least 5 that talk up Trump at the local bar I go to, and I know they have lived, and still do, within precinct 1 for voting. The very same precinct that I was judge of elections for for 4 years. In the 4 years I served I can say I never saw them vote once. There’s another one I do know that votes only voted in presidential elections, so he might show for Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:02:28am

re: #192 Ming5000

Did they level it?

I need to level my phone :)

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withak  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:02:30am

re: #194 Ming5000

I don’t think it is such a bad name.

Oh, I love it. I think it’s hilarious, and will actually be a PR boost if they keep it.

But you don’t get to “let the Internet decide” and then pull that away when things go silly or offensive.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:04:49am

Really I thought they don’t want no DIRTY FEDERAL HANDOUT MONEYS!!!!

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sagehen  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:05:55am

So did anybody watch “Confirmation” this weekend?

Kerry Washington was good as Anita Hill, Wendell Pierce was good as Clarence Thomas, Ginny Thomas came off as a pinch-faced little weasel, none of the Senators looked good.

My favorite part was when the Senators didn’t seem to be taking the charges seriously, so a dozen Congresswoman forced their way into the (private) Senate dining room and went table to table making a big huge fuss. Pat Shroeder, Barbara Boxer and Eleanor Holmes Norton in particular came off well…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:08:09am

re: #197 withak

Oh, I love it. I think it’s hilarious, and will actually be a PR boost if they keep it.

But you don’t get to “let the Internet decide” and then pull that away when things go silly or offensive.

From this story:

UK asks for boat name, Internet overwhelmingly responds: Boaty McBoatface

Now, in the grand scheme of Internet shenanigans, “Boaty McBoatface” is not really that bad. In this writer’s opinion, it’s actually pretty great. After all, this is the same Internet that responded to a promotion to name a new flavor of Mountain Dew with “Hitler did nothing wrong” and “Fapple.”

So it could be worse….

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:11:58am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Really I thought they don’t want no DIRTY FEDERAL HANDOUT MONEYS!!!!

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You could probably get these idiots to pass and ratify a Constitutional Amendment that no state could get back more than they paid in in Federal taxes…The only red state that’s above water is Texas, and just barely.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:12:25am

re: #197 withak

Oh, I love it. I think it’s hilarious, and will actually be a PR boost if they keep it.

But you don’t get to “let the Internet decide” and then pull that away when things go silly or offensive.

Note to anyone thinking about letting the internet choose for you. Be sure to make it a multiple choice type test only.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:12:32am

So if the delegate stuff is corrupt, rigged, whatever buzzword Trump/Sanders come up with and they win the nominations, would they still be rigged, meaning they aren’t worthy of the position?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:13:16am

re: #203 GlutenFreeJesus

So if the delegate stuff is corrupt, rigged, whatever buzzword Trump/Sanders come up with and they win the nominations, would they still be rigged, meaning they aren’t worthy of the position?

You funny….

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:14:40am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Navy punishes MS by moving ship christening. What if Obama withholds a whole passel of funds to punish the entire state?
— Bryan Fischer

Passel? Why is Bryan Fischer using such high-fallutin words like passel? Sounds mighty French.

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Lidane  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:16:14am
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Stanley Sea  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:19:53am

re: #199 sagehen

So did anybody watch “Confirmation” this weekend?

Kerry Washington was good as Anita Hill, Wendell Pierce was good as Clarence Thomas, Ginny Thomas came off as a pinch-faced little weasel, none of the Senators looked good.

My favorite part was when the Senators didn’t seem to be taking the charges seriously, so a dozen Congresswoman forced their way into the (private) Senate dining room and went table to table making a big huge fuss. Pat Shroeder, Barbara Boxer and Eleanor Holmes Norton in particular came off well…

I don’t have HBO so I didn’t watch. I did follow along on twitter - many interesting comments from people who remember the hearings well.

Anita Hill was brave squared.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:22:58am

*facepalm* Did they all go to LAUSD?

Are you a free-spirited Californian who wanted to stick it to the brah by saying, “Nah, thanks brah,” to political parties and registering as an independent? You might have been one of the tens of thousands of state voters who accidentally registered for the American Independent Party (AIP)—an ultra conservative fringe party that supports, among other things, “Our Great Pro-Life Constitution.”

An L.A. Times investigation found that three in four registered AIP members didn’t actually intend to register for the party, including a number of left-leaning celebrities like Demi Moore, Kaley Cuoco, and Emma Stone.

“The views of this party do not accurately reflect my personal beliefs and I am not affiliated with any political party,” said Cuoco. “As such, I am taking the necessary steps to immediately remove my name as a member of this voting party.”

“Demi Moore is not, nor has ever been, a member of the American Independent Party,” said one of Moore’s reps. Stone also confirmed to the Times that the actress plans to re-register before the June election.

theslot.jezebel.com

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:23:08am

re: #207 Stanley Sea

I don’t have HBO so I didn’t watch. I did follow along on twitter - many interesting comments from people who remember the hearings well.

Anita Hill was brave squared.

Anita is one of my heroes. What she did directly improved the lives of working women by making sexual harassment a thing.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:26:40am

re: #208 Great White Snark

*facepalm* Did they all go to LAUSD?

theslot.jezebel.com

I remember when I first registered to vote it was here in California and was going to register as an independent, saw the AIP and was like “ok that must be for the independents” fortunately someone explained to me what AIP was. I of course just decided to register as a democrat.

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Lidane  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:27:25am

So it’s Tax Day and all the RWNJs are in full-on Hate The IRS mode. I can’t even count how many of the GOP dipshits elected in this state that are suddenly in favor of a flat tax with no deductions at all or in favor of a national sales tax because that’s “fair”.

Goddamn there are a lot of economic illiterates on the right.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:32:35am

re: #211 Lidane

So it’s Tax Day and all the RWNJs are in full-on Hate The IRS mode. I can’t even count how many of the GOP dipshits elected in this state that are suddenly in favor of a flat tax with no deductions at all or in favor of a national sales tax because that’s “fair”.

Goddamn there are a lot of economic illiterates on the right.

Another reason I can’t be a RWNJ. What’s so terribly complicated about the existing system, especially if you have one income source? I always get money back anyway.

And what exactly does getting rid of the IRS accomplish? There would still need to be some department of government to determine that a taxpayer was reporting all their income, etc.

Morans.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:36:26am

re: #212 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Another reason I can’t be a RWNJ. What’s so terribly complicated about the existing system, especially if you have one income source? I always get money back anyway.

And what exactly does getting rid of the IRS accomplish? There would still need to be some department of government to determine that a taxpayer was reporting all their income, etc.

Morans.

I’ve never found individual taxation that complicated, particularly if you’re taking the standard deduction, even before I took accounting classes.

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Archangelus  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:36:48am

re: #190 Alephnaught

Not The Onion:

“Boaty McBoatface may not be name of new polar research vessel”

Can’t say that’s surprising - they’ll probably end up going for the 3rd popular name (RRS Henry Worsley), though they’ll doubtlessly get considerable grief over not going with what was chosen to the first place. Would have preferred the RRS Attenborough myself, but it only came in fifth.

That stated, the RRS It’s Bloody Cold Here HAS to be a thing eventually…

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:37:34am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:39:09am

Hurr, hurr, we needs a flat tax, no deductions, flat, fair tax!! Freedom!11

Flat tax passes…

Uh, where does I deduct my mortgage interest, real estate taxes and church tithe? Damn IRS!!!!!1

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:40:00am

re: #212 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Another reason I can’t be a RWNJ. What’s so terribly complicated about the existing system, especially if you have one income source? I always get money back anyway.

And what exactly does getting rid of the IRS accomplish? There would still need to be some department of government to determine that a taxpayer was reporting all their income, etc.

Morans.

Getting rid of the IRS means that whites are no longer paying for blacks so suddenly all whites are going to return to being not poor.

//

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:41:35am

re: #213 Timothy Watson

I’ve never found individual taxation that complicated, particularly if you’re taking the standard deduction, even before I took accounting classes.

Yeah for the typical wage-earner, there’s not much involved, even for itemizing deductions.

I basically have it all set up in Excel so that when I get my forms I just plug the numbers in.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:41:49am

re: #212 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Another reason I can’t be a RWNJ. What’s so terribly complicated about the existing system, especially if you have one income source? I always get money back anyway.

And what exactly does getting rid of the IRS accomplish? There would still need to be some department of government to determine that a taxpayer was reporting all their income, etc.

Morans.

Tax prep software makes computing the taxes even easier, and that same software can even port all the W2 and other various forms into the software, so that it takes all of an hour or two to do. It would take longer, obviously if you have more complex issues, or you haven’t been collecting and keeping your tax related documents all along during the tax year.

What would make filing even easier? Adopting a system where the IRS, which already has most of the information you’re entering on your own 1040, sends you an already completed form, which you check off or modify based on other specific circumstances, like death in family, birth of children, other income not identified in the sources, local taxes, etc. But that kind of system would be opposed by tax prep companies that need to make people feel like they’ve got to file with them, or with tax prep software that charges people to file electronically, which also constitutes an undue burden on the poor, who may have to shell out money for the software which should be free, or they file by paper, which delays their returns or allows the insertion of math/transcription errors.

The GOP answer to all this is #GOPMath, which is to say, complete BS. Cut funding to the IRS, making their job of administering and enforcing the tax code even more difficult, and making them do even more with less. IT demands are even greater than ever before for the IRS, but the GOP keeps cutting the budget to the IRS.

Their “solution” for sales tax doesn’t reduce complexity of the tax code, and actually makes it even more difficult - since there are states that don’t have sales tax, and the sales tax is highly regressive. There’s also the question of what forms the tax base.

And don’t get me started with Cruz’s notion of a VAT, which is even more complex, and Puerto Rico is grappling with that possibility, though there’s a delay in VAT implementation, and it is just as complex as the system that they GOP is trying to replace.

A VAT would be onerous on businesses, to an even greater extent than at present, especially at implementation.

Ultimately, the GOP plan is to shift the burdens from the rich on to everyone else.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:41:56am

re: #212 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And what exactly does getting rid of the IRS accomplish? There would still need to be some department of government to determine that a taxpayer was reporting all their income, etc.

Morans.

Isn’t the elimination of the IRS a goal of these people? Why does the goobernmint need the monies? They can pays for everyting wit user feez.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:43:04am

re: #219 lawhawk

Yeah a VAT or sales tax would be a lot more complicated, especially for businesses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:43:26am

Really, Bernie?

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:44:23am

re: #219 lawhawk

…… But that kind of system would be is opposed by tax prep companies that need to make people feel like they’ve got to file with them, or with tax prep software …..

Fixed. There is much active lobbying by the tax prep industry, already.

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:44:41am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really, Bernie?

Then stop running. Republicans are going to drop bombs on you.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:45:11am

re: #219 lawhawk

I don’t even use the private tax prep software, I just do it through the IRS’s site using it’s own tool. The State of Maryland has a similar set up.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:46:17am

re: #224 Belafon

Then stop running. Republicans are going to drop bombs on you.

Yeah, he ain’t seen nothing yet. Dude, you identify as a Democratic Socialist. What do you think the GOP is going to do about that in a general campaign?

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:47:49am

re: #225 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yup. There are any number of efile methods, and most of them are fairly painless to use.

Of course, the GOP thinks this is the worst.

They seem to think that withholding tax is a crime too - as in we should get hit with a regular tax bill so we know exactly how much we’re spending on taxes.

They make much of the fact that if you’re getting a big refund back, you’ve given the government an interest-free loan, but they ignore the benefits of this to the nation as a whole.

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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:49:00am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really, Bernie?

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Poor Bernie,

Maybe he can hack into a Clinton database or claim an endorsement he didn’t get to make himself feel better?

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:49:03am

I’m watching storm chaser Kelley Williams on TVN. I10 has water rushing across the freeway.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:49:48am

I am sure that the vagaries of quarterly payments across the board could be mitigated, but it would still be a PITA for the Fed bookkeepers.

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:50:09am

The latest from my BernieBro sister:

The larger part of Bernie support are not democrats, so why should they support one? I get why the won’t vote for her. They believe, and I believe, both parties are corrupt and are only in it for the rich. They no longer support us, the bulk of Americans.

I don’t get it. She’s a smart woman. But this absolutely made no sense and was factually incorrect. Obama and Dems are only in it for the rich by passing and signing the ACA, which insures millions more including the poor, minorities, and immigrants. //

mobile.nytimes.com

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:52:42am

re: #231 Jenner7

They also raised taxes on the upper bracket (not as much as we’d all like, but “Congress you have” yada yada), which would have affected people like…Democrats in Congress and the President.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:53:06am

re: #231 Jenner7

The latest from my BernieBro sister:

I don’t get it. She’s a smart woman. But this absolutely made no sense and was factually incorrect. Obama and Dems are only in it for the rich by passing and signing the ACA, which insures millions more including the poor, minorities, and immigrants. //

mobile.nytimes.com

If most Bernie’s supporters aren’t Democrats, why is he running in the Dem primary?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:58:47am

re: #233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

To do damage.

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:58:51am

re: #233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Because of money, which just proves Bernie is full of shit. If he really wanted to do this without “obscene” amounts of money, he would have run as an Independent. They should be throwing those dollar bills at him.

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:59:03am

re: #231 Jenner7

The latest from my BernieBro sister:

I don’t get it. She’s a smart woman. But this absolutely made no sense and was factually incorrect. Obama and Dems are only in it for the rich by passing and signing the ACA, which insures millions more including the poor, minorities, and immigrants. //

mobile.nytimes.com

The ACA also puts a whole lot of money into the coffers of private for-profit insurance companies. I’m not a big fan of that either. However it is a start and much good has come from it. I personally benefit from it and much appreciate the Dem party for getting us this far.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 18, 2016 • 9:59:47am

re: #212 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Another reason I can’t be a RWNJ. What’s so terribly complicated about the existing system, especially if you have one income source? I always get money back anyway.

And what exactly does getting rid of the IRS accomplish? There would still need to be some department of government to determine that a taxpayer was reporting all their income, etc.

Morans.

I think they just want to “uncomplicate” it for themselves. As in they have so many things they have to do to hide income from being taxed or writing off this or that to again reduce their taxes that they want a simple flat tax so all they have to pay is the same low amount they currently have to pay accountants to figure out for them rather than what they SHOULD be paying.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:09:01am

re: #229 Single-handed sailor

I’m watching storm chaser Kelley Williams on TVN. I10 has water rushing across the freeway.

I just saw a guy swim out of his sinking car to the reporter on the bank. Crazy.

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Lidane  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:09:11am

The LaGrange area keeps getting hammered:

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Lidane  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:12:22am

More traffic advisories:

If any Lizard has to go in those directions, be safe!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:14:57am

“It’s very important to put some showbiz into a convention, otherwise people are going to fall asleep,” Trump said in a 45-minute interview here last week in his Trump Tower office. “We don’t have the people who know how to put showbiz into a convention.”

i dunno how much “showbiz” mr trump can afford to buy, but i know some new yorkers who can tell him where to put it

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:14:59am

re: #238 Stanley Sea

I just saw a guy swim out of his sinking car to the reporter on the bank. Crazy.

That’s been happening all over the city. I’m sitting right on the edge of an overtopped bayou. Aaaand it’s still raining. Even if we could get out of the park we wouldn’t be able to get back in. We’re already networking, as in post hurricane, to make sure our neighbors have what they need for a couple of days. We will pool resources as needed.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:16:15am

re: #242 allegro

That’s been happening all over the city. I’m sitting right on the edge of an overtopped bayou. Aaaand it’s still raining. Even if we could get out of the park we wouldn’t be able to get back in. We’re already networking, as in post hurricane, to make sure our neighbors have what they need for a couple of days. We will pool resources as needed.

Hang tight.

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:17:40am

re: #243 Stanley Sea

Hang tight.

Glub.

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kirkspencer  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:20:29am

I can’t speak for the rest of the city (also Houston) but I called in this morning and stayed home. Oh, I tried. I waded through the parking lot to my car because I could see most of the lot was still drained. I turned my normal way, went a block, and saw the car in the middle of a pond with its flashers going. Turned around for alternate one, got a couple of blocks, different car same issue. Alternate 2 (and last possible route) the difference was that the water had risen high enough to hide the flashers so I don’t know if they were going or not.

My concern - for myself and everyone else on hourly - is what happens to paychecks and ‘not-at-work’ decisions if we get multiple days of this as is looking to happen.

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sagehen  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:21:31am

re: #203 GlutenFreeJesus

So if the delegate stuff is corrupt, rigged, whatever buzzword Trump/Sanders come up with and they win the nominations, would they still be rigged, meaning they aren’t worthy of the position?

The way delegates are chosen isn’t new. It’s never been secret.

Trump claims he’s been thinking about a presidential run for decades. He’s had plenty of time to look into it, find out the procedures, and plan accordingly. Doesn’t he claim he’s a great manager/administrator?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:21:45am

re: #244 allegro

Glub.

It Could Be Worse

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:29:57am

re: #246 sagehen

That’s the thing. For both the GOP and DNC, the rules have been well known. Don’t like them? Then don’t run as one of them.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:30:50am

I’m ba-ack.

The world does not appear to have ended in my absence. Always good. The break from politics was excellent. Disney’s cruise ship has a quite decent medical facility. Taking antibiotics every 6 hours sucks. It especially sucks if it’s not for you but for the other half, so you get all the waking up with none of the benefit.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:35:40am

Heh…. but anyone with a functioning neuron would have pointed that out years ago:

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:36:08am

re: #227 lawhawk

Yup. There are any number of efile methods, and most of them are fairly painless to use.

Of course, the GOP thinks this is the worst.

They seem to think that withholding tax is a crime too - as in we should get hit with a regular tax bill so we know exactly how much we’re spending on taxes.

They make much of the fact that if you’re getting a big refund back, you’ve given the government an interest-free loan, but they ignore the benefits of this to the nation as a whole.

I think many of them believe that we should not be a “nation as a whole” to begin with.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:37:07am

re: #229 Single-handed sailor

I’m watching storm chaser Kelley Williams on TVN. I10 has water rushing across the freeway.

When I lived there, I had seen underpasses of I-10 that were basically lakes.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:38:07am
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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:38:31am

re: #190 Alephnaught

Not The Onion:

“Boaty McBoatface may not be name of new polar research vessel”

I love all the people lamenting that the failure to follow an internet poll is democracy’s death-knell.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:40:19am

re: #254 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

I love all the people lamenting that the failure to follow an internet poll is democracy’s death-knell.

I’m sure the Bernie Bros think the Presidential election should be an online poll.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:42:44am

re: #229 Single-handed sailor

I’m watching storm chaser Kelley Williams on TVN. I10 has water rushing across the freeway.

The guy doesn’t want to get out of the truck.

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Kragar  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:48:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:48:51am

^^THIS^^

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:50:31am

re: #254 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

I love all the people lamenting that the failure to follow an internet poll is democracy’s death-knell.

Little overlap with Bernie bros?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:52:20am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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^^THIS^^

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:53:38am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s an easy way to fix that, you know…

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Kragar  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:54:27am
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BeachDem  Apr 18, 2016 • 10:57:32am

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:00:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:01:20am
Sanders’ relationship with the Democratic Party has become an issue in the race. At the Democratic debate Thursday night in Brooklyn, the moderators noted that Sanders has not raised any money for the Democratic Party this year, while Clinton has. Sanders responded that in the past he has raised millions of dollars for his colleagues in the Senate.

But in his campaign for the presidency, he’s actively fundraising for the WFP. Sanders supporters received an email on Thursday asking them to donate $3, to be split between Sanders, Zephyr Teachout, a progressive Democratic congressional candidate in upstate New York whom Sanders has endorsed, and the WFP. The email came from “Bernie Sanders for Working Families Party.”

motherjones.com

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:06:08am

Sigh. Always disappointing to learn that someone you once respected is in reality a blowhard and asshole.

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:07:55am

re: #264 Jenner7

“Hey DemoRATs, why aren’t you reading exactly what Clinton said she’d do with the money? You are? Then why aren’t you making a fuss? Because you agreed to it? Who does that?”

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Stanley Sea  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:09:19am

re: #266 allegro

Sigh. Always disappointing to learn that someone you once respected is in reality a blowhard and asshole.

Rex Ryan?

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:11:32am

re: #268 Stanley Sea

Rex Ryan?

Bernie.

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:12:35am

I’d have to go dig, which I can’t do at work, but I believe Obama had a similar fund raising arrangement for down-ticket candidates in 2008.

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:12:59am

re: #240 Lidane

I just drove over that road yesterday afternoon.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:13:21am
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:13:41am

re: #260 Stanley Sea

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Not the same thing. Armadillos are mammals and do not make a habit of trying to eat people as alligators sometimes do.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:14:50am

re: #266 allegro

Sigh. Always disappointing to learn that someone you once respected is in reality a blowhard and asshole.

Really sucks when it’s your mom.

/no joke, I have other adjectives I’m keeping in storage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:17:27am
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:18:48am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

motherjones.com

The Democrats relationship to the Working Families Party is complicated. The WFP is sometimes an ally via ‘fusion’ endorsements (which New York state allows) but some Dems often feel it pulls them too far to the left or advocates unwise policies.

I invite Lawhawk to expand upon this or correct me if I am wrong.

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:18:55am

re: #274 wrenchwench

Really sucks when it’s your mom.

/no joke, I have other adjectives I’m keeping in storage.

Ouch. In my case, a brother. But you totally win this round of Life Can Suck.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:19:05am
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Nojay UK  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:20:29am

re: #193 withak

People who decide that Internet polls should decide meaningful things should be forced to deal with the consequences.

Glasgow hosted the 2014 Commonwealth Games. They had a mascot, meant to represent the best and finest of Glasgow’s proud heritage and history. The organisers held a naming competition for the mascot. “Stabbity McFuckface” was running strongly for the win until it was disqualified for some reason despite its obvious Glaswegian-ness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:21:38am

re: #279 Nojay UK

OK, that made me laugh.
(Been to Glasgow and have several friends there…)

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:22:03am

re: #277 allegro

Ouch. In my case, a brother. But you totally win this round of Life Can Suck.

I could throw in 2 out of three brothers, 3 of 3 sisters, and one each sister- and brother-in-law. I have one sister-in-law who almost makes up for the rest.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:23:19am

re: #281 wrenchwench

I could throw in 2 out of three brothers, 3 of 3 sisters, and one each sister- and brother-in-law. I have one sister-in-law who almost makes up for the rest.

We managed to not talk politics the entire trip and it was wonderful.

And I only heard one Donald Trump joke. (It was pretty good though. At one of the shows.)

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:23:34am

re: #277 allegro

Ouch. In my case, a brother. But you totally win this round of Life Can Suck.

I reiterate how glad I am that my father’s preference for the Chicago Tribune and his dislike of TV news has kept him free from Fox News infection.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:26:08am

re: #282 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We managed to not talk politics the entire trip and it was wonderful.

And I only heard one Donald Trump joke. (It was pretty good though. At one of the shows.)

In my case, it isn’t over politics. My family has some sickos in it. They reserve their hate for those they are related to (in-law being close enough).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:26:29am

re: #279 Nojay UK

Glasgow hosted the 2014 Commonwealth Games. They had a mascot, meant to represent the best and finest of Glasgow’s proud heritage and history. The organisers held a naming competition for the mascot. “Stabbity McFuckface” was running strongly for the win until it was disqualified for some reason despite its obvious Glaswegian-ness.

Maybe if they transcribed it phonetically it wouldn’t be so bad? I remember in one of James Herriott’s books when he was in the RAF, he had somebody ask him: “Whit part o’ Gleska ye frae?”

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:26:54am

re: #276 Dark_Falcon

The Democrats relationship to the Working Families Party is complicated. The WFP is sometimes an ally via ‘fusion’ endorsements (which New York state allows) but some Dems often feel it pulls them too far to the left or advocates unwise policies.

I invite Lawhawk to expand upon this or correct me if I am wrong.

It is indeed complicated. In NY, where I am most familiar with the WFP and the political situation, the WFP is often linked with the Democrat party, but there have been crossover candidates from the GOP who have sought and gotten the WFP endorsement. Candidates for statewide positions, and mayor of NYC will often seek (and get) the nomination from minor parties that aren’t running their own candidates, but rather find the major party candidate fitting their goal/objectives.

For instance, Andrew Cuomo ran with WFP support both times, but there was dissatisfaction with how Cuomo moved to the right in his reelection in 2014, so the party may be looking in other directions.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:30:10am

re: #286 lawhawk

As a state note, back in the mid-1990’s the Working Families Party did have branches in Chicago and Milwaukee but those folded soon after Illinois and Wisconsin barred cross-party ‘fusion’ endorsements following a 1997 Supreme Court decision that ruled the national Constitution was silent on the matter of such endorsements.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:31:36am

re: #284 wrenchwench

In my case, it isn’t over politics. My family has some sickos in it. They reserve their hate for those they are related to (in-law being close enough).

Families can be hard. I’m sorry yours is in that category.

(I like my in-laws, I just need them in small doses. But since they live across the country, small doses doesn’t work well in terms of efficiency.)

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:34:58am

Thank the Lord, only 30 more hours of berning before we can put this nonsense to bed.

Can’t come soon enough.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:36:03am

re: #288 klys (maker of Silmarils)

BTW, welcome back!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:37:31am

re: #290 wrenchwench

BTW, welcome back!

Thank you! I did miss everyone. And the Internet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:37:51am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:38:53am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

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? I’ve been out of the loop. A corporate whore really? Swear this campaign is run by amateurs.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:45:34am

re: #281 wrenchwench

I could throw in 2 out of three brothers, 3 of 3 sisters, and one each sister- and brother-in-law. I have one sister-in-law who almost makes up for the rest.

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BeachDem  Apr 18, 2016 • 11:49:59am

re: #279 Nojay UK

Glasgow hosted the 2014 Commonwealth Games. They had a mascot, meant to represent the best and finest of Glasgow’s proud heritage and history. The organisers held a naming competition for the mascot. “Stabbity McFuckface” was running strongly for the win until it was disqualified for some reason despite its obvious Glaswegian-ness.

Then there’s the New Zealand flag competition (the best section is at about 1:45)

John Oliver - New Zealand’s New Flag Designs


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