Sanders Says He Hasn’t Read Classified Pages of 9/11 Report Because He Doesn’t Want to Lie

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I’ve set this video to start at the section I found surprisingly, weirdly naïve — as Senator Sanders says he hasn’t read the classified 28 pages of the 9/11 Report for the following reason:

The difficulty is, you see, then if you read them you’re gonna ask me a question, you’re gonna say “you read ‘em, what’s in ‘em?” And now I can tell you honestly I have not read them.

What I find weird: a president has to be able to keep classified material secret — obviously. It’s a fact of international politics that presidents can’t simply reveal secret information because they want to be honest; it’s such a basic part of the job that I find it very odd to hear someone running for president who apparently doesn’t get this.

That’s not the entire interview, of course, but it was one more of many WTF moments in this election season.

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372 comments
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freetoken  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:48:19pm

Image: deaf_dumb_blind.jpg

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Lidane  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:48:59pm
The difficulty is, you see, then if you read them you’re gonna ask me a question, you’re gonna say “you read ‘em, what’s in ‘em?” And now I can tell you honestly I have not read them.
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Kragar  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:50:43pm

Or he could do his job, read the fucking reports, and then say “I can’t tell you because its not authorized” and still not lie about it.

I’m fucking tired of Bernie’s bullshit.

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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:50:59pm

Well, I say there are some things we don’t want to know. Important things. -
Ned Flanders

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piratedan  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:52:49pm

I guess that’s a bit better than covering his eyes with his hands and saying “I can’t see you”…..

At this point, it’s painfully obvious that Sanders does speak to a lot of people who have embraced the idea that someone new needs to be in charge and that we should change the way that the government works. In large part, I agree with that. My problem is, I don’t think Sanders and his dream weavers have any idea on how to get there from here. Nor are they willing to do the hard work to establish the foundation to get us there.

Seems to follow the meme pattern of:

1) have a great idea
2) ?????
3) New economically fair government!!!!!!!!!!!

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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:52:50pm

It’s not like Bernie can’t keep a secret……he won’t tell us how he’ll get legislation passed, he won’t tell us what’s in his tax returns, he won’t tell us if he’s a democrat…….etc., etc.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:54:57pm

Yeah I’m going to roll my eyes at this big time. You’re seeking a job where you’re going to have access to confidential information. Bernie continues to make me question his leadership skills and abilities with dumb remarks like that.

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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:55:34pm

When your base consists of a lot of 9/11 Truthers, it’s best to dodge that question.

//

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:56:50pm
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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 1:59:27pm

Willful ignorance is an acceptable defense in BernieLand now?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:00:19pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

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Give them back to Denmark and see how they like that. We were only administering them for the duration of WWI because the Danes were blockaded in, but we somehow forgot to give them back.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:00:32pm

Frankly if this guy is the progressives’ best hope then they have only themselves to blame for why they’re not taken seriously because that’s just a terrible answer by any presidential candidate to give to a question like that.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:00:35pm

It’s telling that he conflates honoring a confidentiality agreement with dishonesty. I wouldn’t tell him a fucking thing after hearing that, a grown ass man needs to know the difference between lying and saying they can’t answer a question due to legitimate legal constraints.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:00:56pm

“Yes, I’ve read the 28 pages. No. I can’t tell you anything.”

Not that fucking difficult, Bernie.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:01:24pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

It’s telling that he conflates honoring a confidentiality agreement with dishonesty. I wouldn’t tell him a fucking thing after hearing that, a grown ass man needs to know the difference between lying and saying they can’t answer a question due to legitimate legal constraints.

Exactly.

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:02:19pm

Putin: Where are all of your spies in Russia?
Sanders: I cannot tell a lie…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:09:44pm
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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:10:36pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

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GOPers sure do like to toss women about.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:11:15pm

Fingers in the ears, eyes closed. La-la-la I can’t hear you La-la-la.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:11:50pm
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Lidane  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:14:18pm

Sorry for the OT, but this is huge:

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nines09  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:14:23pm

I Know Nothing

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:16:46pm

I posted it on the last thread just as it was dying …

Wonkette weighed in on the Virgin Islands kerfluffle this morning, including who shoved who, who pulled a gun, who called the cops, who slammed who against a wall, &c.

wonkette.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:18:27pm

re: #21 Lidane

Sorry for the OT, but this is huge:

[Embedded content]

Google Books have been so gunshy that they’ve withdrawn any number of pre-1923 books (unambiguously public-domain) because somebody issued reprints of them. Thank heavens for the Internet Archive. (Google Book’s scans look like they were done by drunken bonobos anyway.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:19:48pm
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piratedan  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:24:50pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

if only they had used the more correct term of “Corporate Sex Worker” instead…. ///////

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:28:21pm

re: #26 piratedan

if only they had used the more correct term of “Corporate Sex Worker” instead…. ///////

Is that like Big Pharma, except for sex workers?

How can we survive a monopoly corporate takeover of sex workers? The service might be as bad as a cable company /snark

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nines09  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:29:12pm

re: #26 piratedan

if only they had used the more correct term of “Corporate Sex Worker” instead…. ///////

Or “Knows how to walk the aisles.”

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:30:17pm

And this folks, is why the foreign policy choices in November will be Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, or utter disaster. Both Trump and Sanders are incompetent when it comes to matters in other nations.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:31:57pm

re: #27 Anymouse

Is that like Big Pharma, except for sex workers?

How can we survive a monopoly corporate takeover of sex workers? The service might be as bad as a cable company /snark

But on the other hand, Obamacare would make sure they got tested for STDs regularly.

/snicker

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:32:15pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

Ted “Carpet Bomb” Cruz?
hahahahaaaaa

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Amory Blaine  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:32:54pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

I appreciate the viewpoint, but the statement is worse than a foreign policy gaffe. He could use that “excuse” for anything. Poor judgement.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:33:00pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

And this folks, is why the foreign policy choices in November will be Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, or utter disaster.

FTFY. Cruz is almost as bad as Trump’s rhetoric, without the possibility that he doesn’t mean any of it.

See: ‘precision carpet bombing’, ‘we’re gonna see if sand can glow’, etc.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:33:41pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted “Carpet Bomb” Cruz?
hahahahaaaaa

Ted “Making the sand glow isn’t a nuclear reference” Cruz.

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blueraven  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:34:20pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

And this folks, is why the foreign policy choices in November will be Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, or utter disaster. Both Trump and Sanders are incompetent when it comes to matters in other nations.

Oh yes, carpet bombing is a great strategy. Also, religious tests.
Get real. Cruz is a disaster.

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kirkspencer  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:34:46pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

And this folks, is why the foreign policy choices in November will be Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, or utter disaster. Both Trump and Sanders are incompetent when it comes to matters in other nations.

… I’m kind of having trouble differentiating Cruz’s foreign policy declarations from Trump’s.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:35:13pm

re: #34 thedopefishlives

He was referencing those snap and glow sticks. He likes to cut them open and make the sand glow in his zen garden is all. Geez.

/

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:35:57pm

re: #35 blueraven

Well, with endorsements from folk like Kevin Swanson (who wants to kill atheists or at least deny us rights) and Troy Newman (the Operation Rescue terrorist leader), I think that by itself disqualifies Cruz, regardless of any other position he holds.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:36:03pm

re: #36 kirkspencer

… I’m kind of having trouble differentiating Cruz’s foreign policy declarations from Trump’s.

It’s easy! You know that Cruz means his, whereas Trump is simply playing to the rubes.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:37:47pm

re: #37 Amory Blaine

He was referencing those snap and glow sticks. He likes to cut them open and making the sand glow in his zen garden is all. Geez.

/

And then, when he clarified that he meant carpet bombing, he somehow thinks that’s less terrible than threatening to nuke ‘em all.

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blueraven  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:42:21pm

Hey, dont give the Bernie Sander’s campaign any ideas yo.
//

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:42:30pm

re: #24 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m pretty sure most of the scanned books at IA are from Google Books.

PS: fuck most copyrights.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:43:04pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

And this folks, is why the foreign policy choices in November will be Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, or utter disaster. Both Trump and Sanders are incompetent when it comes to matters in other nations.

That is, Hillary or utter disaster.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:44:28pm
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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:45:29pm

OK, Bernie may not be an utter disaster, but the potential is there. Why risk?

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thedopefishlives  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:45:31pm

re: #42 Nyet

I’m pretty sure most of the scanned books at IA are from Google Books.

PS: fuck most copyrights.

Software developers the world over agree with you. I understand the need to make money off of one’s hard work, but as a developer, just ripping off my code isn’t going to gain a whole lot of value. Let ‘em take it - if they can comprehend it.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:46:08pm

re: #33 Blind Frog Belly White

FTFY. Cruz is almost as bad as Trump’s rhetoric, without the possibility that he doesn’t mean any of it.

See: ‘precision carpet bombing’, ‘we’re gonna see if sand can glow’, etc.

He had to throw some things out to avoid being eclipsed by Trump. Much of the party base wants the USAF to stop worrying about civilian casualties, at least in Syria, and focus primarily on killing Daesh fighters off in job lots.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:47:36pm

re: #46 thedopefishlives

I understand the need for limited copyright, but the system as it is now is insane.

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lockjawcanbefun  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:47:47pm

Buffalo should be fun tonight.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:48:38pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

He had to throw some things out to avoid being eclipsed by Trump. Much of the party base wants the USAF to stop worrying about civilian casualties, at least in Syria, and focus primarily on killing Daesh fighters off in job lots.

‘Some things’ like random killing and genocide? To keep up with Trump? WTF?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:50:19pm

re: #42 Nyet

I’m pretty sure most of the scanned books at IA are from Google Books.

PS: fuck most copyrights.

Not true at all. Google spams the list with their scans—I have my search box set to leave them out. Most scans of university libraries were done by Microsoft and are very professional compared with the job Google did.

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blueraven  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:53:04pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

He had to throw some things out to avoid being eclipsed by Trump. Much of the party base wants the USAF to stop worrying about civilian casualties, at least in Syria, and focus primarily on killing Daesh fighters off in job lots.

“Much of the party base” are ignorant assholes. Why pander to that? Or does Cruz really believe killing civilians is OK morally, or strategically?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:53:40pm

re: #48 Nyet

I understand the need for limited copyright, but the system as it is now is insane.

“Death plus 70 years” has turned me into a complete scofflaw. And it will keep being extended—because of Disney. Let’s just pass a constitutional amendment that Mickey Mouse will never enter public domain and maybe they’d withdraw their lobbyists.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:53:42pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

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Dang! You would think Caribbean living would make folks chill out. Guess not — if you’re Republican.

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kirkspencer  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:53:45pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

He had to throw some things out to avoid being eclipsed by Trump. Much of the party base wants the USAF to stop worrying about civilian casualties, at least in Syria, and focus primarily on killing Daesh fighters off in job lots.

So what you’re saying is that the GOP’s majority is Trump’s to lose.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:54:32pm

re: #48 Nyet

We should start by eliminating copyright for n-years-after-author’s-death. We shouldn’t be obliged to support their estate with a boon or a patrimony.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 2:59:31pm

re: #51 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Not true at all. Google spams the list with their scans—I have my search box set to leave them out. Most scans of university libraries were done by Microsoft and are very professional compared with the job Google did.

Search results:

Google Books: 1,175,190
Microsoft: 411,584

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:00:06pm

re: #56 Sherlock Hound

We should start by eliminating copyright for n-years-after-author’s-death. We shouldn’t be obliged to support their estate with a boon or a patrimony.

Good start.

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:02:54pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

Much of the party base wants the USAF to stop worrying about civilian casualties

‘Much of the party base’ is also not subject to little things like the UMCJ or Geneva Conventions, either.

But I doubt Cruz is even aware of that. Or if he is, he apparently doesn’t give a fuck.

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unproven innocence  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:03:07pm

re: #56 Sherlock Hound

We should start by eliminating copyright for n-years-after-author’s-death. We shouldn’t be obliged to support their estate with a boon or a patrimony.

However, setting that n to zero would likely invite abuses of another kind.
And I do not wish to elaborate.

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kirkspencer  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:03:13pm

re: #53 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Death plus 70 years” has turned me into a complete scofflaw. And it will keep being extended—because of Disney. Let’s just pass a constitutional amendment that Mickey Mouse will never enter public domain and maybe they’d withdraw their lobbyists.

I agree with the nominal principle. Artists do art, writers write and painters paint regardless, but if they can gain and even thrive by letting them have the right to money earned from sales of their work that’s a good thing. My disagreement is that the artist’s heirs and THEIR heirs have that right to benefit. Death plus 20 years is arguably still too much, but I would be willing to accept it under the “widow and children” claim - Barely.

But death plus 70 makes me want to argue for 20 years period.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:03:16pm

re: #53 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Death plus 70 years” has turned me into a complete scofflaw. And it will keep being extended—because of Disney. Let’s just pass a constitutional amendment that Mickey Mouse will never enter public domain and maybe they’d withdraw their lobbyists.

I’d rather just establish a separate category for characters and properties of major commercial value. Require some type of hearing to get the designation and then the relevant company has to pay a tax for its privilege of owning its copyright indefinitely.

And yes, I just proposed a new tax. Grover Norquist thinks I’m a bad boy.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:06:13pm

Death unless widow(er) and small children. Otherwise death + 10.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:07:18pm

And that for fiction. For scholarly works publication date + 10.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:08:51pm

Those +10 lobbyists cost a lot of gold.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:09:01pm

re: #44 Dr. Matt

You talk about the collateral damage from these laws. It’s not just LGBT people affected but what about the local people who work at the arenas where these shows take place? What about the servers, taxi drivers and security guards who rely on events like these for their livelihood?

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:10:03pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

And yes, I just proposed a new tax. Grover Norquist thinks I’m a bad boy.

DFINO!!!!1

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:11:13pm

re: #57 Nyet

Search results:

Google Books: 1,175,190
Microsoft: 411,584

Like I said, Google spams the list with their crap. Put “-description:(user tpb)” in the search field and you’ll eliminate most of them. The figure there for Microsoft is way low. They scanned every major university library in the world. The University of Toronto and the California Digital Library alone add up to more than that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:11:38pm

re: #56 Sherlock Hound

We should start by eliminating copyright for n-years-after-author’s-death. We shouldn’t be obliged to support their estate with a boon or a patrimony.

You can blame the Disney Corporation for a lot of the clusterfuck that is copyright laws.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:13:14pm

I’ve long thought that a Sanders presidency would prioritize purity over governing, but I never thought he would so directly make the case for me.

I also had previously figured he was at least doing okay as a US Senator. I’m increasingly skeptical even that is true.

Pretty funny this is happening on the eve of the NY primary, though. I can only wonder how New Yorkers feel about intellectual uncuriosity on this topic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:15:33pm

Having a bit of an archeological dig/treasure hunt here.
My farm here in the backwoods came with an empty schoolbus, which we filled with boxes of stuff from my move from Illinois 26 years ago.
We’re emptying it this week so we can get rid of the bus.
So much stuff…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:16:27pm

re: #61 kirkspencer

I agree with the nominal principle. Artists do art, writers write and painters paint regardless, but if they can gain and even thrive by letting them have the right to money earned from sales of their work that’s a good thing. My disagreement is that the artist’s heirs and THEIR heirs have that right to benefit. Death plus 20 years is arguably still too much, but I would be willing to accept it under the “widow and children” claim - Barely.

But death plus 70 makes me want to argue for 20 years period.

The system between 1923 and 1963 wasn’t broken and didn’t need fixing. Copyright for 17 years, renewable for 25 years on filing the proper paperwork. (and if you live another 25 years, you could keep renewing indefinitely) Don’t renew? No more copyright.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:17:23pm

re: #68 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ll take your word for it.

Google Books is enormously useful as a searching database tho. Microsoft only scans out of copyright books, which is still good, but…

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Amory Blaine  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:17:33pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t open the boxes, that way you don’t know what’s in them.
~Bernie Sanders.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:20:31pm

re: #73 Nyet

I’ll take your word for it.

Google Books is enormously useful as a searching database tho. Microsoft only scans out of copyright books, which is still good, but…

If only Google could grasp the concept of multi-volume sets. IA is a little better on that, but not much.

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:21:30pm

re: #38 Anymouse

Well, with endorsements from folk like Kevin Swanson (who wants to kill atheists or at least deny us rights) and Troy Newman (the Operation Rescue terrorist leader), I think that by itself disqualifies Cruz, regardless of any other position he holds.

But he was sorry that his campaign people had him at Swanson’s political event.

I’m sure everyone buys that, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:21:41pm

JOURNALISM!!11!!

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:22:43pm

re: #75 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

HathiTrust is better on that count.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:22:45pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

please refresh…it posted before I was finished…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:23:44pm

Bernie doesn’t want to read the 28 pages because if he did, he’d have to declare war on Saudi Arabia.

Only half /.

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plansbandc  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:24:05pm

It sucks that fans will miss shows due to boycotts. It sucks for the service people who were depending on the various shows for their income.

People who create these laws don’t respond to shame or criticism. The only thing they might respond to, and ultimately change the law for, is $$$$$.

Collateral dollar damage is an unfortunate part of these boycotts.

I would also say, as a person in the LGBT community, elect better representatives. Get the damn vote out. There are many reasons bigots are in power. Don’t be one of those reasons by being complacent about voting.

I think it’s up to each entertainer to determine how they wish to respond or not respond to the new Jim Crow laws. Duran Duran’s response was lovely, as was Joel McHale’s. Neither one canceled their performance.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:25:23pm

DailyKos is still DailyBurp 24/7.

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:26:38pm

re: #60 unproven innocence

However, setting that n to zero would likely invite abuses of another kind.
And I do not wish to elaborate.

Copyrights should be no reason more than 25 years.

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unproven innocence  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:26:58pm

re: #80 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Bernie doesn’t want to read the 28 pages because if he did, he’d have to declare war on Saudi Arabia.

Only half /.

Maybe he appreciates that line by Franklin about keeping secrets.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:28:08pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:29:08pm

re: #78 Nyet

HathiTrust is better on that count.

Thanks for that—I had never heard of them.

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:29:34pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

‘Some things’ like random killing and genocide? To keep up with Trump? WTF?

And Dark, like others in The Party think Cruz is better than Trump. Uh huh, sure.

The things you have to do to be the GOP nominee, and the things you have to look past to accept him as your candidate.

But, Hillary bad. Can’t vote for her, she is not in The Party.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:30:31pm

re: #86 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They basically have everything GB has, but in a slightly different format.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:31:51pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

And Dark, like others in The Party think Cruz is better than Trump. Uh huh, sure.

The things you have to do to be the GOP nominee, and the things you have to look past to accept him as your candidate.

But, Hillary bad. Can’t vote for her, she is not in The Party.

I’d vote for her to keep Trump out of the White House. But Cruz is (in my judgement) a sane person, and I can overlook his DERPs in order to have someone who generally favors the same policies as I do.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:31:52pm

Flickr

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Tigger2  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:34:28pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

I’d vote for her to keep Trump out of the White House. But Cruz is (in my judgement) a sane person, and I can overlook his DERPs in order to have someone who generally favors the same policies as I do.

Cruz is a major religious fanatic I don’t call them sane.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:36:07pm

re: #70 Testy Toad T

I found your cousin:

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:36:33pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

It looks like a sickly tongue.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:38:15pm

re: #93 Testy Toad T

It looks like a sickly tongue.

With eyes!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:40:10pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

With eyes!

Wait a minute—tongues aren’t supposed to have eyes?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:40:34pm

Flickr

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:40:51pm

re: #91 Tigger2

Cruz is a major religious fanatic I don’t call them sane.

Cruz’ policies include being anti-LGBT and anti-reproductive rights so I say no thanks.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:41:23pm

А у нас в Рязани — грибы с глазами. Их едят, они глядят.

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unproven innocence  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:42:15pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

I’d vote for her to keep Trump out of the White House. But Cruz is (in my judgement) a sane person, and I can overlook his DERPs in order to have someone who generally favors the same policies as I do.

Your sane person not very long ago embraced the idea of having 100 more in the Senate just like Jesse Helms.

Ted Cruz: We Need A Hundred More Racists In Congress (maybe skip to 5:00)

And I seriously suspect Cruz is not so good at math. /

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:42:23pm

re: #93 Testy Toad T

It looks like a sickly tongue.

Its body absorbs rain when it can to survive dry weather. In South Africa in the dry season it sometimes does not rain for over a month on end.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:43:16pm

re: #68 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I edited this for correctness—it’s “description:(user tpb)”. Google manages to hide themselves as creator and that’s buried in the description. There’s a new thing “BBupload” too.

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Jay C  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:43:21pm

re: #98 Nyet

А у нас в Рязани — грибы с глазами. Их едят, они глядят.

Yeah, man: whatever you say…..

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:43:32pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

I’d vote for her to keep Trump out of the White House. But Cruz is (in my judgement) a sane person, and I can overlook his DERPs in order to have someone who generally favors the same policies as I do.

I question your judgement.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:44:20pm

re: #95 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wait a minute—tongues aren’t supposed to have eyes?

I do like to see what I’m eating…

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Stanley Sea  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:45:46pm

Damn it.

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kirkspencer  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:46:01pm

re: #72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The system between 1923 and 1963 wasn’t broken and didn’t need fixing. Copyright for 17 years, renewable for 25 years on filing the proper paperwork. (and if you live another 25 years, you could keep renewing indefinitely) Don’t renew? No more copyright.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. It was broken. See, the phrase was copyright “WITH NOTICE” for 17 years. Publish without notice or with the notice improperly done (placement, phrasing, etc) and it was now a work of public domain. Oh, and it was one renewal that (again) if properly done and fees paid, extended the duration to 95 years after date of publication.

Copyright also had to be changed because technology. Oh, not computers (at first) but radio and television. The existing rules had no clear basis for covering a live broadcast that turned out to be recorded. Who owned it, the broadcaster, the performers, or the recorders?

In addition there was the fun state-and-federal copyright system. If your work was copyrighted in New York but not nationally, how did you deal with the copies made and sold in California? (unfair question as they had a reciprocity agreement, but not all states had them.)

Changes were needed. The thing is some reasonable things got changed and some, well, Disney.

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lockjawcanbefun  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:46:25pm
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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:46:45pm

Pale Man

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Amory Blaine  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:47:13pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

Flashing lights by the depth marker looks like it would help.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:48:19pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

I’d vote for her to keep Trump out of the White House. But Cruz is (in my judgement) a sane person, and I can overlook his DERPs in order to have someone who generally favors the same policies as I do.

So you’re saying you favor 7 Mountains Dominionism. Got it…..

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Stanley Sea  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:49:39pm

re: #109 Amory Blaine

Flashing lights by the depth marker looks like it would help.

Emergency management needs to get harsher & say DAY OFF for everyone. Tough shit.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:50:25pm

re: #110 Dave In Austin

So you’re saying you favor 7 Mountains Dominionism. Got it…..

I don’t favor ‘mountains’ anything right now. Oh, my aching leg! The gout’s bad today.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:50:39pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:52:12pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Is it possible to set those so that when I’m flipping through the collection, if I miss the arrow and get taken to Flickr, it can be in a new tab instead of taking me away from LGF? (Happens often in the Spy when everything shifts down and I click at the wrong time and place.)

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:52:32pm

re: #81 plansbandc

I think it’s up to each entertainer to determine how they wish to respond or not respond to the new Jim Crow laws. Duran Duran’s response was lovely, as was Joel McHale’s. Neither one canceled their performance.

Cyndi Lauper as well. She’s doing her show, but she (and her manager and agent) are donating their take. Cyndi’s a good egg.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:52:34pm

re: #111 Stanley Sea

Emergency management needs to get harsher & say DAY OFF for everyone. Tough shit.

This is Texas, remember: The businesses give orders to the government, not the other way around. Demanding that businesses pay employees for a day the employees did not work is Communism, you know.

/I actually agree with you.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:53:24pm

Sorry, folks, but I have to go put my foot up. BBIAB

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:54:47pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

He had to throw some things out to avoid being eclipsed by Trump. Much of the party base wants the USAF to stop worrying about civilian casualties, at least in Syria, and focus primarily on killing Daesh fighters off in job lots.

So, you’re going to claim he’s not as bad as he makes himself sound? I’m sorry, but what’s your evidence for that? AFAIK, the one thing you can say about Cruz is that he doesn’t bluff, but rather goes right ahead and does the stupid crazy shit regardless.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:56:41pm

Woodsongs 731: Tommy Emmanuel

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Danack  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:58:05pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

But Cruz is (in my judgement) a sane person,

Who will threaten to nuke people if he thinks it will benefit him.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:58:23pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

Is it possible to set those so that when I’m flipping through the collection, if I miss the arrow and get taken to Flickr, it can be in a new tab instead of taking me away from LGF? (Happens often in the Spy when everything shifts down and I click at the wrong time and place.)

Unfortunately no - that’s an iframe that’s coming from Flickr and I have no control over the target of the link.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:58:46pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

I’d vote for her to keep Trump out of the White House. But Cruz is (in my judgement) a sane person, and I can overlook his DERPs in order to have someone who generally favors the same policies as I do.

That says more about you than you might like.

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Black d20  Apr 18, 2016 • 3:59:25pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

Oh god, I heard all about that debacle. Why can’t they just hide Japanese actors with a good handle of English? We’ve got a lot of them ready for these kind of roles! Ugh.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:01:28pm

re: #110 Dave In Austin

So you’re saying you favor 7 Mountains Dominionism. Got it…..

Technically, Dark is just engaged in an exceedingly long rationalization process in which Ted Cruz surrounding himself with nutters that are known—and abhorred—quantities in these precincts, talking like those nutters, and doing stuff like shutting down the government over PP funding are stunts to appease the rubes, before he shifts and becomes a “serious” fiscal conservative (who wants a flat tax).

In other words, the entire career of Ted Cruz, politican, has been a long con so he can get the brass ring and transform into a “serious” conservative that David Brooks would accept public displays of affection from, not just grope in a dark room.

So instead of being 100% infuriating, it’s like 60% infuriating, 40% sad. Though those numbers fluctuate when you notice that Dark like to despise the Trumpa-lumpas as horrible little proles, but also appease them so the party can “win.” Which is kind of like railing about how the side piece is a whore, even as you maintain them in an apartment, with a monthly stipend, and routinely make vigorous love to them as your wife sits at home drinking gin and pretending to be resigned to it all as her melancholy and self-doubt fuse into a tumor with a horrible orange comb-over.

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Bass Reeves  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:03:04pm

re: #124 The Ghost of a Flea

I…am not sure if I like what’s going on in your headspace, but I’ll drink to it.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:03:53pm

re: #123 Black d20

Oh god, I heard all about that debacle. Why can’t they just hide Japanese actors with a good handle of English? We’ve got a lot of them ready for these kind of roles! Ugh.

I don’t have a problem with Scarlette Johannson in the role. She is a close physical match as it is…considering that Major Kusanagi was deliberately made to look quasi Caucasian as well as Japanese in the original anime.

The New Republic ha a good essay on this today.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:07:08pm

re: #125 Bass Reeves

I…am not sure if I like what’s going on in your headspace, but I’ll drink to it.

I’m currently experiencing 15% snarky annoyance; 10% infinite resignation; 8% the kind dread that leads to vulgar, but bleak, humor; and 66% desire to listen to Funkadelic’s “Maggot Brain” while trying to infuse vodka.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:08:35pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately no - that’s an iframe that’s coming from Flickr and I have no control over the target of the link.

OK, I’ll quit doing it in the Spy (or get really good at it).

Minor design thing: On the Featured and Recent Page lists, I don’t always ‘read’ the photos as being with the page below, I sometimes misread it as being with the one above it. Maybe if there were a bit more space between the items in the list, or put the author’s nic under the title instead of between the photo and the title?

Or it could be just me, of course.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:08:51pm

re: #27 Anymouse

Is that like Big Pharma, except for sex workers?

How can we survive a monopoly corporate takeover of sex workers? The service might be as bad as a cable company /snark

Yeah, they’d just fuck ya … oh wait.

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Nyet  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:09:24pm

kittyhongry

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:12:38pm

A vote for Cruz is also a vote for his Father….. Let that sink in a bit.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:14:02pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

I’d rather just establish a separate category for characters and properties of major commercial value. Require some type of hearing to get the designation and then the relevant company has to pay a tax for its privilege of owning its copyright indefinitely.

And yes, I just proposed a new tax. Grover Norquist thinks I’m a bad boy.

No. Just no.

Time was, copyright was life of author plus 20. Then life of author plus 50. Then 70. was a definite period of time. Then you could apply to extend. Then the periods were extended. And again. And again. On and on it goes, and it’s no longer about the original author, but the corporate entity that owns said copyrights in what amounts to perpetuity.

Now, we’ve got a situation where Disney is all but controlling copyright law to ensure that their character never enters the public domain, which is the opposite intention of IP, which is to generate improvements and public use after a limited period of exclusive rights of use to exploit the potential of the works.

At the same time, I’m just spitballing but think patents need to be adjusted to reflect the state of the art with respect to pharamceuticals and the time between studying the compound and when they can be approved for human use. Perhaps a rule that provides exclusive use through the approval process plus 5 years, so that the company can recoup the costs, but then the public benefits from generics (though even there, the companies have realized that compounding drugs can extend their exclusivity further at little additional cost).

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:15:04pm

re: #128 wrenchwench

OK, I’ll quit doing it in the Spy (or get really good at it).

Minor design thing: On the Featured and Recent Page lists, I don’t always ‘read’ the photos as being with the page below, I sometimes misread it as being with the one above it. Maybe if there were a bit more space between the items in the list, or put the author’s nic under the title instead of between the photo and the title?

Or it could be just me, of course.

That’s a good idea - done!

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:16:23pm

This dude needs to lay off my party. I’ve gone from liking Bernie, to being annoyed, to flat out thinking he is an asshole with no integrity.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:17:08pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

That’s a good idea - done!

Thanks! That helps!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:17:46pm

One of those rare funny bits from SNL…

God is a Boob Man - SNL

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:17:56pm

re: #131 Dave In Austin

A vote for Cruz is also a vote for his Father….. Let that sink in a bit.

I disagree. Ted Cruz is a grown man and can tell his father ‘No’ if what his father proposes is illegal on unconstitutional.

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:18:30pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

The Pool Boy was my favorite.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:20:17pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. Ted Cruz is a grown man and can tell his father ‘No’ if what his father proposes is illegal on unconstitutional.

Could but wouldn’t, but yes.

Ted Cruz has given us ample evidence of his own personal noxiousness. It’s neither fair nor, honestly, necessary to try to stain him with the sins of his ancestry.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:20:19pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. Ted Cruz is a grown man and can tell his father ‘No’ if what his father proposes is illegal on unconstitutional.

He hasn’t. He’s sought to do some of the same things Trump has with respect to Muslims. His views on church and state are antithetical to the 1A. His support of RFRAs is to enable bigotry and discrimination on grounds of “religious freedom”.

But Cruz’s positions aren’t much different than those of the rest of the GOP.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:20:51pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

The problem isn’t that Cruz’ dad would be the boss of him and make him do stuff he doesn’t want to. The problem is how much Cruz agrees with that 1000% wackaloon.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:21:28pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. Ted Cruz is a grown man and can tell his father ‘No’ if what his father proposes is illegal on unconstitutional.

Go put your foot up before I put mine down.

/not sure what that means, but I had to say it.

/Sorry you’re feeling bad, but your comments make me feel bad.

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Jenner7  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:22:24pm

I’m really hoping this is all talk by the Bernie campaign and he’ll eventually concede. But I’m hearing talk (admittedly on twitter) of him making an Independent bid and I fear that my party will take a hit.

BBL. Dinner time.

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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:23:06pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. Ted Cruz is a grown man and can tell his father ‘No’ if what his father proposes is illegal on unconstitutional.

0_o

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:23:08pm

Let’s see if the F-35 can do this before spending a trillion dollars on it:

F-15 lands with one wing

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:24:19pm
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Reality Based Steve  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:24:57pm

I’m not a religious person, but I’ve always admired how on this forum all of us, regardless of our religious views and beliefs or lack of same seem to co-exist in pretty damn good harmony.

That being said, all I can do is SMH at the latest nonsense out of the Cruz organization…

Ted Cruz’s national security adviser Frank Gaffney, a notorious anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist, has been urging members of Congress to refuse to meet with participants in today’s National Muslim Advocates Day, where Muslim-Americans around the country went to the U.S. Capitol to meet with their elected representatives and their staff.

<SNIP>
And at least one official followed Gaffney’s advice and refused to meet the group: Sen. Ted Cruz.

According to a statement released today by the U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations, which organized the event, Cruz’s staff snubbed a group of Texas Muslim delegates.

While Cruz’s presidential campaign has made defending religious liberty from government attacks a central theme, that message does not appear to include Muslims.

- See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Along with his dodging and weaving when asked exactly how he would protect the rights of a Gay Republican who is concerned that the “Religious Freedom” acts could easily be used to actively discriminate against him, and I really think that the statement “When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross” (not a direct quote from Sinclair Lewis, but sort of combining the essence of a couple of his other quotes) is becoming more an more true.

If you’re not White (or if not, at least know your place), Straight and Christian (their version) then the GOP as little, if any, use for you.

I’ve been both very busy and a bit under the weather the last week, (bad combination), but I’m looking forward to the New York Primary results thread(s) tomorrow
RBS

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:26:22pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:29:36pm

re: #139 Testy Toad T

Has Cruz done anything to (credibly) distance himself from the “kill-the-gays” pastor that he appeared with?

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:31:07pm

re: #150 Jebediah, RBG

Has Cruz done anything to (credibly) distance himself from the “kill-the-gays” pastor that he appeared with?

Not that I know of. Cruz is a disgusting POS.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:31:26pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Hey Glenn, how about rooting for America for a change?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:32:09pm

re: #150 Jebediah, RBG

Has Cruz done anything to (credibly) distance himself from the “kill-the-gays” pastor that he appeared with?

Mope and the reason is he agrees.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:32:34pm

Cruz is just Trump with actual religious fervor.

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DarknSilentNight  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:33:40pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Would that be “mopery with intent to creep”?

(Sorry. Couldn’t resist.)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:34:08pm

re: #155 DarknSilentNight

Would that be “mopery with intent to creep”?

(Sorry. Couldn’t resist.)

Haha sorry I’m on a phone.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:34:26pm

Ever got a feather with your chicken?

Facebook Video

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:34:54pm
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:35:42pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Cruz is just Trump with actual religious fervor.

I don’t agree, but neither one of us is going to convince the other. So lets just drop the topic.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:35:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:36:42pm

Kasich is a bastard too per his latest comment that you shouldn’t go where there’s alcohol if you don’t want to be raped. Not only is that insulting to women, it insults men too by saying we’re too damn drunk and stupid to know better.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:38:03pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

I don’t agree, but neither one of us is going to convince the other. So lets just drop the topic.

Fair enough. I think you’ve convinced yourself Cruz is a okay since he’s become the establishment golden boy since Rubio dropped out and it became apparent Kasich isn’t getting near the nomination.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:38:07pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

I don’t agree, but neither one of us is going to convince the other. So lets just drop the topic.

It’s not a matter of “agreement” or “convincing.”

You are arguing with the documented career, statements, policies, campaign stances and general ethos of Ted Cruz.

Your argument is “these things must be said to attract Trump voters, and are not sincere.”

The rest of us are just pointing that out.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:39:16pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Cruz is just Trump with actual religious fervor.

Eh. Cruz is bugfuck nuts, but he’s decently smart and certainly has a clue how to wield the levers of political power to advance his deeply-held and consistent goals. If I were to pick one word to describe Trump it would be “oafish” or “buffoon”, and that’s not a quality that Cruz shares at all in my estimation.

They’re both terrible, terrible candidates who would be terrible, terrible presidents, but this is a highly multidimensional discussion. They’re terrible for very different reasons.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:39:25pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

He snapped when questioned over fact that he’s won exactly one race. He needs to win 140+ percent of the remaining delegates to get nomination. In other words, it’s impossible. As it is, Cruz is nearly in the same boat.

Kasich is just as extreme as the rest of the has-been GOP field, but he’s the “moderate” compared to Trump and Cruz, which is like comparing which Koch brother is the best at screwing the environment.

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:40:39pm

re: #143 Jenner7

I’m really hoping this is all talk by the Bernie campaign and he’ll eventually concede. But I’m hearing talk (admittedly on twitter) of him making an Independent bid and I fear that my party will take a hit.

BBL. Dinner time.

If he tries an independent run now after all that has been learned about him all I can say is good luck.

We already can guess what the Republicans will do to him.

And if he has ever been concerned about the Clinton Machine…he would surly find out how that works too. After what he has done in his run against Hillary, they would go after him with all guns blazing.

He would also lose the democrats that stuck with him and would turn away if he goes independent.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:40:39pm

re: #164 Testy Toad T

Eh. Cruz is bugfuck nuts, but he’s decently smart and certainly has a clue how to wield the levers of political power to advance his deeply-held and consistent goals. If I were to pick one word to describe Trump it would be “oafish” or “buffoon”, and that’s not a quality that Cruz shares at all in my estimation.

They’re both terrible, terrible candidates who would be terrible, terrible presidents, but this is a highly multidimensional discussion. They’re terrible for very different reasons.

True,

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:41:28pm

re: #165 lawhawk

He snapped when questioned over fact that he’s won exactly one race. He needs to win 140+ percent of the remaining delegates to get nomination. In other words, it’s impossible. As it is, Cruz is nearly in the same boat.

Kasich is just as extreme as the rest of the has-been GOP field, but he’s the “moderate” compared to Trump and Cruz, which is like comparing which Koch brother is the best at screwing the environment.

Yep. They all suck big time.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:41:47pm

re: #164 Testy Toad T

I’m not so sure Cruz is that aware of how to wield power, not when he has consistently been on the wrong end of trying to shut down government to repeal Obamacare, knowing full well Obama would never go along with that BS.

Cruz decided to crater the US economy in furtherance of his jihad against Obamacare.

Billions of dollars in economic losses later, and he’s the alternative to Trump? What exactly has Cruz done successfully as a politician?

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:42:42pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Kasich is a bastard too per his latest comment that you shouldn’t go where there’s alcohol if you don’t want to be raped. Not only is that insulting to women, it insults men too by saying we’re too damn drunk and stupid to know better.

I read what he said and he seemed to be referring more to college parties which feature excessive drinking.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:44:16pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

I read what he said and he seemed to be referring more to college parties which feature excessive drinking.

Still fucked up. He had nothing to say about the men who force themselves on women and only condescending crap for the women. That’s not right and as j got at, it’s sexist towards us men who do know better no matter how drunk we get to respect the word no.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:44:25pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

I read what he said and he seemed to be referring more to college parties which feature excessive drinking.

It’s insulting to all women, whether they are in college or not.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:44:32pm

re: #169 lawhawk

I’m not so sure Cruz is that aware of how to wield power, not when he has consistently been on the wrong end of trying to shut down government to repeal Obamacare, knowing full well Obama would never go along with that BS.

Cruz decided to crater the US economy in furtherance of his jihad against Obamacare.

Billions of dollars in economic losses later, and he’s the alternative to Trump? What exactly has Cruz done successfully as a politician?

I actually think Kasich would be the most disastrous President, then Cruz, then Trump—just based on competence in carrying out their equally repugnant ideologies.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:44:35pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

I know being on a phone makes it tough to avoid typos, but I have to say you have a knack for entertaining typos. I wish I had been keeping a list of your typos that I thought deserve to be words - there are quite a few!
You made one in the last thread that might actually be useful in either nonpologies or very general, vague apologies: “I apologize if I meant any offense. “
If it isn’t clear, I am not poking fun in the slightest. Your typos really do have a higher-than-average grooviness quotient.

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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:44:46pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

College age women are just asking for it if they go to parties. They should know that.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:45:24pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

I read what he said and he seemed to be referring more to college parties which feature excessive drinking.

And he put the onus on the women attending these parties. Nothing about the men who are drinking to excess, and then don’t care about what the woman wants.

It’s no different than if he said that the women dressed provocatively and deserved it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:45:32pm

my eyes are rolling sooo much now…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:45:47pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

It’s insulting to all women, whether they are in college or not.

It is. No excuse for what he said at all. The only people to blame for rape are rapists. We don’t engage in shaming robbery or burglary victims the way we do rape victims.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:46:17pm

re: #173 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Kasich is the most competent politically to get an agenda enacted, which could make him more dangerous than the others. He’s less extreme ideologically only by matter of degree.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:46:17pm

re: #175 stpaulbear

College age women are just asking for it if they go to parties. They should know that.

No, that’s not what he getting at. It wasn’t meant as an insult so much as a warning that some environments are inherently risky for women and one of them is when there are a great many drunken young men around.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:46:32pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Kasich is a bastard too per his latest comment that you shouldn’t go where there’s alcohol if you don’t want to be raped. Not only is that insulting to women, it insults men too by saying we’re too damn drunk and stupid to know better.

For all the talk of their deep bench last summer, it’s kind of amazing how the GOP is full of people that are basically just crappy politicians. Their base is too unhinged to keep officials honest day-to-day, and so when they crawl out from under their rock they cannot withstand the light of day.

Kasich’s comment is a perfect example. It’s not wrong per se: I am sure a woman who does not go to parties featuring alcohol is less likely to be raped. But you could equally say that I would face less risk of slipping and suffering a head injury in the shower if I bathed wearing a football helmet.

It’s a useless answer to a stupid question. Someone who knew how to predict their comments would play out, especially snippets of them stripped of whatever context in which one tried to coddle them, would never say such a foolish thing.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:47:03pm

re: #174 Jebediah, RBG

I know being on a phone makes it tough to avoid typos, but I have to say you have a knack for entertaining typos. I wish I had been keeping a list of your typos that I thought deserve to be words - there are quite a few!
You made one in the last thread that might actually be useful in either nonpologies or very general, vague apologies: “I apologize if I meant any offense. “
If it isn’t clear, I am not poking fun in the slightest. Your typos really do have a higher-than-average grooviness quotient.

Not offended at all. I have some good ones even when I’m on my PC.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:47:09pm

re: #169 lawhawk

Billions of dollars in economic losses later, and he’s the alternative to Trump? What exactly has Cruz done successfully as a politician?

Answer: billions of dollars in economic losses later, and he’s the alternative to Trump.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:47:14pm

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

No, that’s not what he getting at. It wasn’t meant as an insult so much as a warning that some environments are inherently risky for women and one of them is when there are a great many drunken young men around.

Stop digging.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:47:27pm

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

No, that’s not what he getting at. It wasn’t meant as an insult so much as a warning that some environments are inherently risky for women and one of them is when there are a great many drunken young men around.

You really just don’t see the insult, do you?

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:47:29pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:47:42pm

Cruz is sane? Wow. I thought I’ve heard it all.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:47:47pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

It is. No excuse for what he said at all. The only people to blame for rape are rapists. We don’t engage in shaming robbery or burglary victims the way we do rape victims.

He actually said that as clarification. To say that a given action is risky is not to say that the person undertaking said action deserves to have the peril the risk entails befall them.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:48:40pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

You really just don’t see the insult, do you?

I see what people think the insult is. i just don’t think its an insult.

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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:48:42pm

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

No, that’s not what he getting at. It wasn’t meant as an insult so much as a warning that some environments are inherently risky for women and one of them is when there are a great many drunken young men around.

..who are feeling all rapey. Women should know that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:49:44pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

I see what people think the insult is. i just don’t think its an insult.

just. wow.

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wrenchwench  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:49:58pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

I see what people think the insult is. i just don’t think its an insult.

Fuck you.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:50:06pm

re: #188 Dark_Falcon

He actually said that as clarification. To say that a given action is risky is not to say that the person undertaking said action deserves to have the peril the risk entails befall them.

Lots of situations are risky but as I said, we as a society blame and question the decisions of rape victims more than any crime victim. Why is that acceptable?

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:51:02pm

re: #190 stpaulbear

..who are feeling all rapey. Women should know that.

Not all or even most. But drunk men are far more prone to doing stupid and evil things.

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:51:14pm

re: #150 Jebediah, RBG

Has Cruz done anything to (credibly) distance himself from the “kill-the-gays” pastor that he appeared with?

Yeah, he tried to drive his campaign bus over his staff by saying it was them that got him involved with Swanson so he “chewed them out.”

But everyone knows he knew who Swanson was years before he attended Swanson’s event.

But hey, stuff like this can be easily overlooked as long as he has an R in front of his name, seen as sane and he is the last person standing in the way of having to gag down TRUMP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:51:42pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

Not all or even most. But drunk men are far more prone to doing stupid and evil things.

But it’s the woman’s fault…

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plansbandc  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:52:05pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is the mainstream Republican view. I’ve heard it again and again. And it is utter bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:52:06pm

He shouldn’t have accumulated all that money and goods. It’s his fault those burglars robbed him. See how stupid that sounds and those are attacks on people’s property and not their bodies.

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Tigger2  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:52:58pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

Don’t you ever get tired of making excuses about what people in your party say or do. The GOP doesn’t represent the majority of America anymore they really need to think things through and do some major soul searching as a party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:55:30pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:55:34pm

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

It wasn’t meant as an insult

If that is true, that just means he is cluelessly misogynistic. If a female college student has to avoid college parties to stay safe, there is a major problem with male college students that needs to be addressed - and not by admonishing the women.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:55:49pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Lots of situations are risky but as I said, we as a society blame and question the decisions of rape victims more than any crime victim. Why is that acceptable?

It shouldn’t be. But if you want to reduce rape, then teaching young women to avoid dangerous situations is a needed part of doing that. It’s not fair, but its The Way It Is. Some men can get drunk and take advantage of vulnerable females, while a very small minority of men are simply predatory and will use venues such as drunken parties to find vulnerable women to victimize.

Teaching young men not to rape is an incomplete solution because a small number of them won’t take the lesson. Thus there need to be other methods deployed to protect women from that small number of men,

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:56:42pm

re: #201 Jebediah, RBG

If that is true, that just means he is cluelessly misogynistic.

Honestly, I think this is probably the case. Clueless old insulated white dude is the most parsimonious interpretation, and even when we’re talking about GOP politicians I am a believer in Hanlon’s Razor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:57:05pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:57:11pm

re: #169 lawhawk

I’m not so sure Cruz is that aware of how to wield power, not when he has consistently been on the wrong end of trying to shut down government to repeal Obamacare, knowing full well Obama would never go along with that BS.

Cruz decided to crater the US economy in furtherance of his jihad against Obamacare.

Billions of dollars in economic losses later, and he’s the alternative to Trump? What exactly has Cruz done successfully as a politician?

Use the very stuff you have listed in this comment to win the cred of The Tea Party and Right Wing Nut Jobs. They see that as their boy doing good standing up against Obama and the Dems.

All of that is easily forgiven. Dark can explain that to us.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:58:09pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

HELL, NO! The only person responsible for a rape is the rapist. But women stand a much lesser chance of being victimized if they take precautions.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:58:17pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

It shouldn’t be. But if you want to reduce rape, then teaching young women to avoid dangerous situations is a needed part of doing that. It’s not fair, but its The Way It Is. Some men can get drunk and take advantage of vulnerable females, while a very small minority of men are simply predatory and will use venues such as drunken parties to find vulnerable women to victimize.

Teaching young men not to rape is an incomplete solution because a small number of them won’t take the lesson. Thus there need to be other methods deployed to protect women from that small number of men,

What you do is teach men to respect women and I’m sad to say but doesn’t seem to be something your party values.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:59:29pm

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

HELL, NO! The only person responsible for a rape is the rapist. But women stand a much lesser chance of being victimized if they take precautions.

“precautions”…

good freaking grief.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:59:32pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

What you do is teach men to respect women and I’m sad to say but doesn’t seem to be something your party values.

Again, the problem is that some small number of men will refuse to learn the lesson or will ignore it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 4:59:40pm

re: #201 Jebediah, RBG

If that is true, that just means he is cluelessly misogynistic. If a female college student has to avoid college parties to stay safe, there is a major problem with male college students that needs to be addressed - and not by admonishing the women.

Absolutely and as I said it’s sexist to men too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:00:09pm

re: #209 Dark_Falcon

Again, the problem is that some small number of men will refuse to learn the lesson or will ignore it.

If you honestly believe it’s a “small number of men”, you do not grasp the immensity of the problem.

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majii  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:00:36pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

“But it’s the woman’s fault…”

This seems to also be the case when it comes to abortion. None of these right-wing pols ever seem to think that, in some cases, some males demand women get abortions because they don’t want to be fathers. I also notice that none of them ever mention punishing the sperm donors for any reason. When Kasich told the female college student to stay away from parties where alcohol is served, I wondered why he didn’t tell the guys that being inebriated is not a justification for rape. As a female, it was clear to me that he thinks women are responsible for insuring that some dude doesn’t rape them. If he thought about the male’s role, he didn’t address it. At. All.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:01:01pm

re: #209 Dark_Falcon

Again, the problem is that some small number of men will refuse to learn the lesson or will ignore it.

So slut shaming by Papa Kasich is the answer? Women drink dude. A woman should be able to attend a party with alcohol present without fear she’ll be assaulted and I think you and Kasich know this.

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SteelPH  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:01:22pm
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fern01  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:01:24pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

..
Teaching young men not to rape is an incomplete solution because a small number of them won’t take the lesson. Thus there need to be other methods deployed to protect women from that small number of men,

So because some men cannot learn a lesson ALL young women should never attend parties, never go out alone at night or as I was told 50 years ago - never wear red in the spring. These activities are known to excite young men.

Why not simply lock them up unless they are out in the company of their male keeper. Now who follows this type of treatment of women?

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:02:01pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

“precautions”…

good freaking grief.

Why do I get the strong feeling that precautions = gun?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:02:15pm

WHAT WERE YOU WEARING??!!???

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:03:05pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHAT WERE YOU WEARING??!!???

An onion on my belt, as was the style at the time.

Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em. “Gimme five bees for a quarter,” you’d say. Now where were we… oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn’t have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:03:12pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHAT WERE YOU WEARING??!!???

You were dressed in a way that was attractive? Whore.//

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:03:17pm

re: #216 allegro

I prefer a fully loaded handbag. That can really do some damage. :)

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:03:42pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

But it’s the woman’s fault…

It’s an easy fix. Women need to buy moar guns!

Shoot the guys that want to take advantage…that is the American way is it not?

(/)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:04:03pm

There’s also the subject of male rape too.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:04:50pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

“precautions”…

good freaking grief.

Precautions.

And a big gun ( but that is assumed by the GOP).

Reality is that alcohol plays a significant role in campus sex assaults, and the ones who drink to excess are the ones who need education/reeducation - between cutting out the binge drinking and assaulting women because they feel it is their right/obligation to do.

But alcohol destroys lives of domestic partners, families, all across the nation, and telling women that they’re responsible for the situation ignores that it is the men who drink to excess that they are the problem.

Kasich knows his audience though, so he gets a pass. And on and on the sex assault blame the victim BS continues.

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:05:23pm

re: #220 PhillyPretzel

I prefer a fully loaded handbag. That can really do some damage. :)

Oh yes, the black hole of loose change and lip gloss. Sucker can be as effective as a sock with a brick in it. ;)

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:05:59pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

It shouldn’t be. But if you want to reduce rape, then teaching young women to avoid dangerous situations is a needed part of doing that. It’s not fair, but its The Way It Is. Some men can get drunk and take advantage of vulnerable females, while a very small minority of men are simply predatory and will use venues such as drunken parties to find vulnerable women to victimize.

Teaching young men not to rape is an incomplete solution because a small number of them won’t take the lesson. Thus there need to be other methods deployed to protect women from that small number of men,

Do we need to take up a collection for you?

I’m thinking you are going to need a new shovel.

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ObserverArt  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:08:11pm

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

HELL, NO! The only person responsible for a rape is the rapist. But women stand a much lesser chance of being victimized if they take precautions.

Yeah, it’s just like having to stay in your house if you are worried about getting shot by a gun nut.

We can’t control our behavior so just give up being in public. No problem.

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:08:17pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

“precautions”…

good freaking grief.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:08:58pm

re: #95 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wait a minute—tongues aren’t supposed to have eyes?

Mine grows hair sometimes, but never eyes.

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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:09:21pm

re: #220 PhillyPretzel

I prefer a fully loaded handbag. That can really do some damage. :)

Cross body bags are just too hard to swing.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:09:36pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:10:07pm

Just start kicking men in the balls and then go for the temple kill shot with the elbow, and when Campus Security arrives tell them you were in fear for your life.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:10:14pm

re: #227 makeitstop

I usually like cats but that one is …
I better not say it. Someone’s feelings might get hurt.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:10:44pm

re: #229 stpaulbear

The Mrs. swears by Harveys’ seat belt bags. They’ve got significant weight to them, last forever, and look awesome.

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:12:05pm

re: #232 PhillyPretzel

I usually like cats but that one is …
I better not say it. Someone’s feelings might get hurt.

That’s my cat, Trixie.

Contrary to her looks, she’s the sweetest cat on the planet.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:13:08pm

re: #216 allegro

Why do I get the strong feeling that precautions = gun?

Actually, not in most cases. Stranger rapes aren’t very common, and most women who raped are attacked by someone they have at least met and spent a short time with. That’s not a scenario where a gun is going to be useful.

There’s also the issue that alcohol doesn’t mix well with firearms.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:13:36pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:13:59pm

re: #234 makeitstop

That is usually the case. There was a calico in my neighborhood. She was a patchwork of colors. She was one of the sweetest cats on the street.

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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:14:03pm

re: #233 lawhawk

The Mrs. swears by Harveys’ seat belt bags. They’ve got significant weight to them, last forever, and look awesome.

Well now I know what’s going to show up in my Amazon recommendations for the next three months. Those are pretty amazing.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:14:31pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

Lolcat says, Give me that baby. Give me that baby you warthog from hell!

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:15:08pm

re: #238 stpaulbear

Yeah, they are. :)

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:16:44pm

re: #238 stpaulbear

Well now I know what’s going to show up in my Amazon recommendations for the next three months. Those are pretty amazing.

3 months if you’re lucky, I’m still getting the occasional mannequin head showing up in mine. (checking around for C_L)

RBS

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:17:39pm

re: #239 lawhawk

Lolcat says, Give me that baby. Give me that baby you warthog from hell!

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:17:51pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

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Clearly an outdoor cat, that one. Looks very sleek and athletic.

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:18:36pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

I so enjoy mansplaining. Really. Carry on.

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makeitstop  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:19:06pm

re: #237 PhillyPretzel

That is usually the case. There was a calico in my neighborhood. She was a patchwork of colors. She was one of the sweetest cats on the street.

My wife found Trixie under my truck at a gig nine years ago and was a little quicker than Trixie and grabbed her. Despite her being with us for nearly a decade, we still call her the baby.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:19:27pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:20:12pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:20:33pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG She was very good. RIP Ms Roberts.

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:21:33pm

re: #247 The Ghost of a Flea

Embedded Image

What is that called… I know it’s not a quahog (that’s a clam), but isn’t it something like that?

RBS

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:22:20pm

re: #249 Reality Based Steve

What is that called… I know it’s not a quahog (that’s a clam), but isn’t it something like that?

RBS

Wombat, isn’t it?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:22:44pm

re: #249 Reality Based Steve

Wombat.

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:23:34pm

re: #250 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wombat, isn’t it?

re: #251 The Ghost of a Flea

Wombat.

Thanks… I was thinking it was something else.

RBS

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:24:30pm

re: #252 Reality Based Steve

I’ll bet you were thinking of a quokka.

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:26:57pm

re: #253 The Ghost of a Flea

I’ll bet you were thinking of a quokka.

Yes!!!! Thank you.

RBS

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:28:02pm

re: #244 allegro

I so enjoy mansplaining. Really. Carry on.

I got nothing else.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:28:15pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. Ted Cruz is a grown man and can tell his father ‘No’ if what his father proposes is illegal on unconstitutional.

Show us where Teddy chastised his Dad after his father said that the President “should go back to Kenya”.

He didn’t. Daddy Cruz groomed his Teddy to bring on Armageddon so JC and his Sonshine Band will turn on the Holy Hoover Vacuum cleaner and rapture the true believers…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:29:32pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:29:36pm

re: #241 Reality Based Steve

3 months if you’re lucky, I’m still getting the occasional mannequin head showing up in mine. (checking around for C_L)

RBS

I clicked on a link to some gaudy jewelry that someone posted here. I’m still getting it for that. Worst mistake was I accidentally clicked on some gun holster accessory because I didn’t realize what it was. The floodgates opened and I had to reject every single recommendation to get that shit off the page. Then I looked at a tote bag made by a militia supply store and I had to do it all over again.I wish they would allow you to just delete entire categories with one click.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:30:26pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

How about 6-12? Oy Vey this person is bad. :(

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kirkspencer  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:31:04pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

It shouldn’t be. But if you want to reduce rape, then teaching young women to avoid dangerous situations is a needed part of doing that. It’s not fair, but its The Way It Is. Some men can get drunk and take advantage of vulnerable females, while a very small minority of men are simply predatory and will use venues such as drunken parties to find vulnerable women to victimize.

Teaching young men not to rape is an incomplete solution because a small number of them won’t take the lesson. Thus there need to be other methods deployed to protect women from that small number of men,

Bear with me, this digression is relevant.

Do you know how terrorism works? It’s a political mind game played with violent means. A few actors, significantly smaller in number than those they wish to move, decide certain behavior is required or prohibited. And to encourage that behavior they make examples of those who ‘misbehave’. They kill, maim, and a host of other behaviors all intended to, well, terrorize their targets and persuade them to follow the rules of the minority.

There is no single defense or refutation of terrorism. Part of it is to seek out and neutralize the terrorists. Education and incarceration are preferable as Death, though appearing easy, carries ugly problems of breeding more (you killed my father prepare to die). However, another extremely important - and difficult - tactic is to refuse to give in. Refuse to change your behaviors to match what the terrorists want.

You’re smart. You know where I’m going with this. But I’m closing the circle anyway.

Avoiding situations where the terrorist rapist /might/ strike gives them what they want. Fuck them. And fuck the men who let it happen - who collude with the rapists through their inaction. A woman should be able to enter a bar, get a drink or two, and leave and have a reasonable expectation of going home as unmolested as the men doing the same thing at that bar. Or party.

Please quit blindly protecting them by helping them get what they want.

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gocart mozart  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:31:32pm

“I’m going to be so great on the 2nd am that you’ll have blood coming out of your wherever!” -Trump

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:32:01pm

With all the discussion about camera lenses lately, somebody needs to bid on this:

The First Telephoto Lens Used On the Moon Is Up for Auction

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:32:42pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

I got nothing else.

Perhaps you might if you tried actually listening to what the women here are telling you (and the enlightened men here as well).

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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:33:30pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

HAHAHAHAHA!! ::wheeze:: HAHAHAHA!!

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:35:54pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember it so clearly, the 1000s of Muslims cheering on the street on 6-12, 7-11, or whatever. You know what I mean /Trump

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:35:56pm

Transgender bathroom bill fails in Tennessee legislature

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A transgender bathroom bill in the Tennessee legislature failed Monday after the House sponsor said she was withdrawing the legislation while waiting to see how legal challenges play out in other states that have passed similar measures.

The bill’s demise follows intense lobbying from both supporters and opponents of the measure and questions about potential economic fallout if it were to become law.

Rep. Susan Lynn, the Mount Juliet Republican who sponsored the bill in the House, said she needed to tweak the legislation before bringing it back up again next year. From the AP

I would love to say that it failed because the rational and reasonable people in the TN Legislature realized that this bill was wrong, hateful, and unnecessary. I’d also love to have a magic unicorn that shit bitcoins. Both are equally likely.

Truth is they knew that they were going to be hit with multiple suits the moment it was implemented (and I have my doubts if Gov. Haslim would have signed it anyhow).

There was also a lot of pressure from the business community that helped kill it off.

I’d love to say “Good Job Tennessee”, but doing right because you figure you’ll get sued and want to get a stronger bill isn’t something that’s praiseworthy.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:37:13pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #264 stpaulbear

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:37:41pm

re: #265 lawhawk

I remember it so clearly, the 1000s of Muslims cheering on the street on 6-12, 7-11, or whatever. You know what I mean /Trump

I clearly recall two or three Muslim looking types getting Coke Slurpees at 7-11. PROOF!!!!!

RBS

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gocart mozart  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:38:10pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:38:48pm

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

HELL, NO! The only person responsible for a rape is the rapist. But women stand a much lesser chance of being victimized if they take precautions.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:40:24pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:40:32pm

#tcot “rape prevention” memes are just excuse to post gun porno.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:40:45pm

re: #244 allegro

I so enjoy mansplaining. Really. Carry on.

Well, actually……
//////////////////////

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:40:55pm
Go ahead, you hairless apes….
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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:41:22pm

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

What could possibly go wrong??

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:42:22pm

re: #275 stpaulbear

What could possibly go wrong??

IIRC, a woman shot and killed herself while “adjusting” her bra holster.

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allegro  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:42:42pm

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

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And many new women’s prisons will be needed for all the murderous lying bitches.

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lawhawk  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:44:11pm

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

Honest Trailers – “Boobs”

Gun porn. Boobs. Yeah, they go hand in hand.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:44:50pm

This thread would have been a great place for my ‘Straight Men’ post from the other day. But I’m too lazy to dig it out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:45:59pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:46:19pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

IIRC, a woman shot and killed herself while “adjusting” her bra holster.

And of course, at the moment of her death, she became retroactively and for her entire life No True Scotsman NOT a Responsible Gun Owner.

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:46:38pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not much of a team player?

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:46:58pm

I’ve been trying to keep an open mind in the Hillary/Bernie matter. But the scales are really tipping for me with Bernie’s latest hijinks.

Bernie’s message is essentially a good one, and MUCH needed in American politics; he’s absolutely right that big money and vested interests have far too much control over the process. But in so many ways, he’s utterly unrealistic and naïve about how to change this. He’s a utopian absolutist, and that’s a type of person who loses elections in the US.

There isn’t going to be a “revolution.” Right wing groups are trying to help Bernie get nominated because they know the majority of Americans aren’t going to join his “revolution,” and they absolutely dread the idea of competing against Hillary Clinton because she’s smart, tough, and knows EXACTLY how they operate.

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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:47:29pm

re: #278 lawhawk

The ads on this site are going to be (more) awful for a while.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:47:41pm

THIS IS ALL A GIRL NEEDS TO KEEP FROM BEING RAPED ON CAMPUS!!!1!!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:48:32pm

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS ALL A GIRL NEEDS TO KEEP FROM BEING RAPED ON CAMPUS!!!1!!

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These people are fucking dumb.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:48:58pm

re: #283 Charles Johnson

I’ve really been trying to keep an open mind in the Hillary/Bernie matter. But the scales are really tipping for me with Bernie’s latest hijinks.

Bernie’s message is essentially a good one, and MUCH needed in American politics; he’s absolutely right that big money and vested interests have far too much control over the process. But in so many ways, he’s utterly unrealistic and naïve about how to change this. He’s a utopian absolutist, and that’s a type of person who loses elections in the US.

There isn’t going to be a “revolution.” Right wing groups are trying to help Bernie get nominated because they know the majority of Americans aren’t going to join his “revolution,” and they absolutely dread the idea of competing against Hillary Clinton because she’s smart, tough, and knows EXACTLY how they operate.

Yes, this.

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:49:35pm

re: #283 Charles Johnson

He’s a utopian absolutist, and that’s a type of person who loses elections in the US.

I don’t understand how he got to be his age without learning this. Maybe because he was isolated in a well-protected position in Vermont.

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worldknot  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:49:52pm

How can a campaign be so idealistic and so cynical at the same time?

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BeachDem  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:50:11pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

Not all or even most. But drunk men are far more prone to doing stupid and evil things.

Then why didn’t Johnny boy say “I would advise young men to avoid getting drunk at frat parties. Oh—and also, I would advise them to not rape people.”

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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:50:28pm

re: #283 Charles Johnson

..He’s a utopian absolutist..

I thought he’d just lived in a closet for the last 30 years.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:50:39pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You could quote this to the RWNJs, and they’d just come back with “57 states”.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:52:51pm

re: #288 jaunte

I don’t understand how he got to be his age without learning this. Maybe because he was isolated in a well-protected position in Vermont.

I think that’s it unfortunately. He’s never had to had to deal with a diverse constituency with various interests at play. It’s very easy to call your opponent a sell out when you represent one of the most white and liberal parts of the country.

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BeachDem  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:52:58pm

re: #197 plansbandc

This is the mainstream Republican view. I’ve heard it again and again. And it is utter bullshit.

And for the umpteenth million time (because it really never gets old)

The GOP Rape Advisory Chart (now with a special 2016 Candidate Edition!)
goprapeadvisorychart.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:53:17pm

re: #290 BeachDem

Then why didn’t Johnny boy say “I would advise young men to avoid getting drunk at frat parties. Oh—and also, I would advise them to not rape people.”

Exactly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:54:26pm

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Exactly.

Well, you know - boys will be boys!

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:55:26pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Throw Slurpees at him. But save one 44oz Coke Slurpee for me.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:55:33pm

One of the reasons my wife joined me in the defensive shooting sports was she has had arthritis since she was a toddler. Can’t run, can’t fight. But guess what neither of us can tolerate… That primate chest thumping gun porn propaganda. Dammit this is a serious matter. Adolescent adrenaline and prideful strutting has no place in the defensive ways.

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jaunte  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:55:53pm

Bernie fan in my twitter timeline retweeting LewRockwell dot com.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:56:23pm

re: #299 jaunte

Bernie fan in my twitter timeline retweeting LewRockwell dot com.

O_o

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:56:32pm

⸨ I M A G E ⸩

This handbag is the one when fully loaded can do some damage. Please see comment #220.

&^%$$ Darn it didn’t work. It was a picture of my Coach Bag, Madison Satchel Large in Putty color.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:56:46pm

re: #299 jaunte

Bernie fan in my twitter timeline retweeting LewRockwell dot com.

Gross.

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majii  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:57:41pm

re: #266 Reality Based Steve

When the loss of funding under Title IX was mentioned, one of the GOP/TP lawmakers replied that “he wasn’t worried about Title IX,” which just goes to show that some of them are more focused on fighting social wars than on following the law. I can imagine that if this bill were law, these true believers, along with Haslam, would be blaming everyone else except themselves. Sorta like what McCrory is doing.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:58:27pm

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

#tcot “rape prevention” memes are just excuse to post gun porno.

It’s also built on the assumption that rape is a violent confrontation with a stranger or near-stranger, and that the rapist is not exploiting familiarity and intimacy to initiate rape and/or pettifog about whether consent was given.

But then again, that might not be an error. The parsing of what is “really” rape by various stripes of groups—many being socially conservative in a way that is squeamish about all sex, such that “rape” is not a stand-apart category within the set “all sex is bad,” unless there’s also violence—involves a lot of exclusions and carve-outs, and those conditionals all hinge on raped persons being a certain kind of victim, and behaving during the rape in a manner that makes them a True Scotsman victim.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:58:30pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

Actually, not in most cases. Stranger rapes aren’t very common, and most women who raped are attacked by someone they have at least met and spent a short time with. That’s not a scenario where a gun is going to be useful.

There’s also the issue that alcohol doesn’t mix well with firearms.

I believe in armed self defense, but I already made clear that guns weren’t a primary answer in this matter.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 5:59:41pm

Autosave function for LGF Pages launching soon. Now in final testing. This has become a really cool feature with more uses than I originally envisioned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:00:02pm

oops, duplicate

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:01:41pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

We all make mistakes. We are humans.

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Lidane  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:02:31pm

ROFL:

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451_Montag  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:02:47pm

I’m sort of going through the 7 stages of Bernie

Intrigued
Interested
Excited
Perturbed
Concerned
Annoyed
Angry

Feel myself tipping over to angry. For a while I thought it was just the Berniacs, I felt they were like over exuberant puppies finding their political feet and just being a bit silly.

The problem for me now is 1. The Berniacs are actually vandals enjoying the bit of slash and burn and 2. Bernie is more than just allowing it to happen, I’m beginning to feel this is his true personality.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:03:36pm

OT: You know that armed anti-Muslim protest at the Georgia State Capitol that was supposed to happen this morning? It did and it was a big #FAIL. Hidden behind a private tag because I don’t want to give the idiots more publicity. Emphasis is mine:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:03:59pm

re: #308 PhillyPretzel

We all make mistakes. We are humans.

Or so we assume.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:04:15pm

re: #305 Dark_Falcon

I believe in armed self defense, but I already made clear that guns weren’t a primary answer in this matter.

I wish you wouldn’t support a party that doesn’t seem to agree with you on this very important issue, but the sentiment earns an upding anyway.

Eventual baby steps for the folks you support, maybe.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:04:24pm

Right wingers are circulating this fucked up video today from the “Family Policy Institute of Washington,” one of those insanely bigoted right wing organizations with “Family” in their name. They’re trying to make college students look stupid, and the ultimate point is that we have to keep those damned LGBT freaks OUT OF OUR BATHROOMS PEOPLE.

Groups like this are why I ran away screaming from the right wing. They’re hateful, obsessed and sneaky.

College Kids Say the Darndest Things: On Identity

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:04:44pm

re: #312 Blind Frog Belly White

Or so we assume.

Or at least pass among them.

RBS

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:04:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:05:45pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

Right wingers are circulating this fucked up video today from the “Family Policy Institute of Washington,” one of those insanely bigoted right wing organizations with “Family” in their name. They’re trying to make college students look stupid, and the ultimate point is that we have to keep those damned LGBT freaks OUT OF OUR BATHROOMS PEOPLE.

Groups like this are why I ran away screaming from the right wing. They’re hateful and obsessed.

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Those family groups are the worst.

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bratwurst  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:06:09pm

I, for one, am thrilled that conservatives continue to insist upon opining idiotically on the subject of rape. The GOP might well have an unassailable advantage in the United States Senate by now without this continuing mental malfunction.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:06:13pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

I see Rod Dreher went for this assholish video in a big way, and so did Hot Air.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:06:29pm

re: #306 Charles Johnson

Autosave function for LGF Pages launching soon. Now in final testing. This has become a really cool feature with more uses than I originally envisioned.

The whole Pages thing is head and shoulders above every political/opinion blog out there period. Hands down.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:06:34pm

re: #315 Reality Based Steve

Or at least pass among them.

RBS

‘Egger, yer skin is hangin off yer bones.”

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:07:17pm

re: #310 451_Montag

I’m sort of going through the 7 stages of Bernie

Intrigued
Interested
Excited
Perturbed
Concerned
Annoyed
Angry

Feel myself tipping over to angry. For a while I thought it was just the Berniacs, I felt they were like over exuberant puppies finding their political feet and just being a bit silly.

The problem for me now is 1. The Berniacs are actually vandals enjoying the bit of slash and burn and 2. Bernie is more than just allowing it to happen, I’m beginning to feel this is his true personality.

I suggest removing “concerned” and placing either “Resigned” or “Dismissive” as the last stage. Sane people who have had a fondness for Sanders are going to have to get over their anger and move on. That means either dismissing Sanders as a fool or becoming resigned to his foolishness and kicking him to the curb as a result.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:07:49pm

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

They’d have to kill me b4 I’d let them rape me.

Really? So women “let” men rape them. I… *smh*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:08:01pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:09:31pm
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majii  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:11:36pm

re: #311 CuriousLurker

I’m proud of the citizens of my state for helping Stachowiak and Jones make complete asses of themselves by not showing up for their anti-Muslim rally. The worst thing that could have happened would have been for them to have had a large crowd of like-minded persons attend their event. They were deprived of this opportunity and are now the targets of ridicule because most of the rally attendees were members of the press. Maybe now Jones will go back to FL, and Stachowiak will fade into the sunset, never to be seen or heard from again.

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BeachDem  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:11:38pm

re: #316 goddamnedfrank

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Next thing you know, all you California kids who were going to go to a Trump rally will have to protest a Sanders rally instead.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:12:39pm
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CuriousLurker  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:13:34pm

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Photos or it didn’t happen, asshole.

I don’t believe for a second that you were down there helping clear the rubble with your well manicured, stubby-fingered little hands.

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451_Montag  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:14:29pm

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

I suggest removing “concerned” and placing either “Resigned” or “Dismissive” as the last stage. Sane people who have had a fondness for Sanders are going to have to get over their anger and move on. That means either dismissing Sanders as a fool or becoming resigned to his foolishness and kicking him to the curb as a result.

But isn’t that the point when messianic figures, which I believe is Bernie’s followers view of him, are shown to be fallible?

I’m sort of getting the idea that people who initially felt he was a force for positive change (like me) but have moved on are like ex-smokers (like me) who just know they can never go back and never want to light up again and don’t want anyone to do it round them.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:14:31pm

I confess I find this voice and this song an utterly compelling combination. Flawless.

Iframe

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CuriousLurker  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:14:54pm

re: #326 majii

I didn’t realize you were from Georgia. You should be proud of them, they did good.

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451_Montag  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:16:15pm

re: #329 CuriousLurker

Photos or it didn’t happen, asshole.

I don’t believe for a second that you were down there helping clear the rubble with your well manicured, stubby-fingered little hands.

But his tiny little manchild fingers would have been great at getting into tiny places?

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Amory Blaine  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:16:16pm

Yay, taxes done. Thanks Uncle Sam, for the couple extra days to sit on my ass.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:16:20pm

re: #326 majii

Shunning the haters is the kindest response.

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stpaulbear  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:16:54pm

re: #326 majii

Could they have been ticketed for littering? That would have been sweet.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:20:25pm

re: #334 Amory Blaine

I did mine in February. I handed the whole mess to my accountant. He filled out my forms and then e-filed them. I got my money in March and now I have to pay my accountant.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:21:13pm

re: #311 CuriousLurker

Oops. I just realized I forgot to add the link to the article. Fixed now.

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majii  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:24:49pm

re: #336 stpaulbear

The strong response from capitol police and the Atlanta PD was balm to my soul. That they warned Stachowiak beforehand that they’d be watching him closely let him know beforehand that they were not OK with his fear-mongering for attention and attempt to rile others up for no reason other than to make himself look more important than he actually is.

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Ming5000  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:24:59pm

re: #130 Nyet

Was this filmed in the aftermath of the earthquake?

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:25:27pm

re: #337 PhillyPretzel

I did mine in February. I handed the whole mess to my accountant. He filled out my forms and then e-filed them. I got my money in March and now I have to pay my accountant.

It took me a long time to get a W2 I needed from last year, and I only finished over the weekend. If I’m to be honest, though, some of this was because I knew I was going to end up owing the IRS some money. Thankfully, they now do direct debit, which is much easier than sending a check. And if you use Turbotax and eFile its cheaper, too.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:26:07pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Cruz is just Trump with actual religious fervor.

Cruz is just Nixon without the moral backbone

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:26:25pm

I finally got to read this series of tweets about Sanders attempt at winning via whites (posted by someone here this morning). I agree with the final sentiments:

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:27:15pm

re: #339 majii

The strong response from capitol police and the Atlanta PD was balm to my soul. That they warned Stachowiak beforehand that they’d be watching him closely let him know beforehand that they were not OK with his fear-mongering for attention and attempt to rile others up for no reason other than to make himself look more important than he actually is.

Part of good policing is keeping an eye on known malefactors and making sure they know that they’re being watched. Crooks and assholes don’t break the law if they know they’re going to be caught.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:27:25pm

re: #329 CuriousLurker

Photos or it didn’t happen, asshole.

I don’t believe for a second that you were down there helping clear the rubble with your well manicured, stubby-fingered little hands.

He’s reading from a script. FROM A FUCKING PIECE OF PAPER not even a teleprompter. How utterly lame is that?

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:29:48pm

Charles,

I know you provided an awesome fix for this issue, but the fix seems to have disappeared. If you click on this #311, and then show the private part of the comment in the popup, it extends off the bottom of the screen. You have made it center, but that doesn’t seem to be working.

Edit: Though, I just noticed that the original post is longer than my screen so maybe there was no fix.

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gocart mozart  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:30:00pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:31:19pm

Good evening fellow Lizards. Here’s to hoping Hillary crushes Bernie tomorrow given the bullshit he’s pulling about fundraising for down ticket races.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:32:46pm

re: #347 gocart mozart

Backwoods_Sleuth beat you to it with her #324.

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gocart mozart  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:33:21pm

.

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:33:28pm

re: #311 CuriousLurker

And all you need to know about the group is that they had to do this armed. Bunch of cowards.

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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:36:29pm

The biggest test for Bernie approaches quickly. If he puts his mission or his message first, he will see that moment when he should start to play his delegates and popularity for policy leverage with HRC. If he bought into his own followers bullshit, he will hold out too long. Watch and learn what lies at the heart of Senator and POTUS candidate Bernie Sanders.

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majii  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:40:01pm

re: #351 Belafon

Well, they had to find some courage somewhere since none of them would dare say anything derogatory about Muslims to their face, one-on-one. We tell little kids to use their words quite often as a means of resolving a conflict without resorting to the use of violence, but this is something I don’t think these guys have ever learned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:41:53pm
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Great White Snark  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:42:10pm

re: #353 majii

If you think you need a gun to make your point you are most certainly Full Of Shit.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:42:13pm

re: #345 The Vicious Babushka

He’s reading from a script. FROM A FUCKING PIECE OF PAPER not even a teleprompter. How utterly lame is that?

Yeah, I noticed that. He wasn’t convincing at all. People who were there don’t need fucking NOTES to remember what it was like—it was burned into their memories forever. Also, when people recall something that awful & traumatic they tend to get that thousand yard stare when mentally reliving it. He didn’t, he just kept reading.

Trump is a lying scumbag and I despise him even more than before (something I didn’t think possible) for using 9/11 like that. If he’d been there, there would’ve been reports, photos, film footage, something—the egotistical prick would’ve made sure of that.

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Jayleia  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:44:52pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

So, to avoid Trump getting elected, he has to agree with the worst of Trump’s idiocy. Rather than being a good person and saying “Guys, this is wrong”.

Fuck him, fuck you for not only making excuses for it, but making stupid excuses for it, and thinking we’re stupid enough to fall for such half-ass excuses.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:45:45pm

re: #351 Belafon

And all you need to know about the group is that they had to do this armed. Bunch of cowards.

The firearms are intended to let them feel that they are ‘Brave Crusaders fighting the Muslim Hoards’, when they’re really just hate-filled assholes. An equal number of Daesh’s better-quality jihadis would mop the floor with these undisciplined yahoos.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:46:08pm

re: #356 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I noticed that. He wasn’t convincing at all. People who were there don’t need fucking NOTES to remember what it was like. When people recall something that awful & traumatic they tend to get that thousand yard stare when mentally reliving it.

Trump is a lying scumbag and I despise him even more than before (something I didn’t think possible) for using 9/11 like that. If he’d been there, there would’ve been reports, photos, film footage, something—the egotistical prick would’ve made sure of that.

I remember reading somewhere that he did go down to Ground Zero to demand police protection for his building uptown.

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majii  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:46:18pm

re: #355 Great White Snark

“If you think you need a gun to make your point you are most certainly Full Of Shit.”

Exactly, but those who walk around with guns and rifles call it winning. SMDH.

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EPR-radar  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:47:18pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

I like the implications of having only two categories here: “people” and “Republican men”.

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b.d.  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:47:21pm

re: #352 Great White Snark

The biggest test for Bernie approaches quickly. If he puts his mission or his message first, he will see that moment when he should start to play his delegates and popularity for policy leverage with HRC. If he bought into his own followers bullshit, he will hold out too long. Watch and learn what lies at the heart of Senator and POTUS candidate Bernie Sanders.

I am ready for this Bernie fervor to be over. I can’t tell you how infuriating it is seeing the same exact people who were duped by that obvious POS John Edwards falling for it again and lecturing me on the perceived character flaws of HRC.

If Bernie has any non-sycophantic friends I hope they sit him down for a talk.

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Viscous Obama  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:47:37pm

Ruh roh:

Sanders to Sierra Blanca: “Drop Dead!”

Before the rally Sanders invited the three West Texans to meet with him privately, and the Texans ea- gerly agreed. The meeting was no longer than Sanders’ attention span — when it comes to Sierra Blanca. “He didn’t listen,” Curry said. “He had his mind made up.” Afterward, Bernie was giving his pro forma campaign speech, never mentioning nuclear power or nuclear waste. Sierra Blanca activist Bill Addington, who’d ar-rived just that morning to join the march, along with his neighbor Marfa Mendez, had had enough, and he yelled from the crowd, “What about my home, Bernie? What about Sierra Blanca?” Several others joined in. “What about Sierra Blanca, Bernie?” Sanders left the stage, which surprised no one in the small Texas delegation. Ear-lier, he had told them, “My position is un-changed, and you’re not gonna like it.” When they asked if he would visit the site in Sierra Blanca, he said, “AbsolUtely not. I’m gonna be running for re-election in the state of Vermont.”

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CuriousLurker  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:48:25pm

re: #359 The Vicious Babushka

I remember reading somewhere that he did go down to Ground Zero to demand police protection for his building uptown.

THAT I believe.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:48:37pm

re: #355 Great White Snark

If you think you need a gun to make your point you are most certainly Full Of Shit.

This. Guns aren’t props, and owning one means nothing if you don’t know how to use it effectively.

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Belafon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:49:43pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

The firearms are intended to let them feel that they are ‘Brave Crusaders fighting the Muslim Hoards’, when they’re really just hate-filled assholes. An equal number of Daesh’s better-quality jihadis would mop the floor with these undisciplined yahoos.

And this group has more in common with Daesh than the group they claim to be protecting.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 18, 2016 • 6:59:20pm

James Stachowiak wants to see himself as a Winged Hussar charging the forces of the Ottoman Empire during the lifting of the 2nd Siege of Vienna in 1683, when in fact he is just a Don Quixote, tilting at a windmill.

Note: The Winged Hussar reference was made to the jerk’s name, which is of Polish origins. Such cavalry really did play a vital role in lifting that siege, but in recent years some jerks of Polish extraction have used the image of the Winged Hussars charging the Ottomans as a allegory for a perceived need for Christians to “fight the spread of Islam.”

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Anymouse  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:02:11pm

re: #337 PhillyPretzel

My accountant did our taxes a couple weeks ago (my wife). (::

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sagehen  Apr 18, 2016 • 7:25:38pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

He had to throw some things out to avoid being eclipsed by Trump. Much of the party base wants the USAF to stop worrying about civilian casualties, at least in Syria, and focus primarily on killing Daesh fighters off in job lots.

This is a recurring theme with you, isn’t it? Every someone on your team proposes something insane, or cruel, or criminal, you excuse it with “but he had to because the election, he wants to keep his job, he doesn’t really mean it…”

Theocracy, bigotry, science denial, war crimes, it’s all “but he had to say that, he wouldn’t really vote that way…”

You defend it, you excuse it, you support it, you vote for it, “because god forbid a Democrat should ever be elected.”

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palomino  Apr 18, 2016 • 8:19:50pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

I read what he said and he seemed to be referring more to college parties which feature excessive drinking.

Congrats on repeating both the Islamist and 1950’s American view of rape. Men just can’t control themselves because alcohol and boobies. It’s all the fault of those hussies we INVITED to the party.

You’re a half century behind the times, both a prude and a self-righteous moralist. Stop talking about race and sex…you’re so behind on both topics as to be both obsolete and embarrassing.

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dell*nix  Apr 19, 2016 • 12:13:53am

Dedicated with great sincerity to the GOP.

Go Away Godboy

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 19, 2016 • 1:29:32am

re: #209 Dark_Falcon

Again, the problem is that some small number of men will refuse to learn the lesson or will ignore it.

No it isn’t. There will always be a small number of evil people who will victimize others if given the opportunity. The problem is the much larger number of men who help them get away with it by minimising it, excusing it, etc. These are the people that need to be educated.


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