New York Primary Open Thread

The NY primary is important for the first time in a long time
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The New York polls close at 9 pm Eastern, and as we anxiously await the results here’s one of those open threads for our contributors to comment on what the heck is happening. On the Republican side, this is almost certain to be a sweep for Donald Trump, erasing all the delegate gains Ted Cruz has made in recent weeks.

The Democratic side is a little more difficult to predict, but based on polls I think Hillary Clinton is going to come out the winner tonight and take another big step toward locking up the nomination.

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412 comments
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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 5:53:29pm

Bernie Sanders has already left New York and is heading back to Vermont. He knows he’s going down tonight.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2016 • 5:54:50pm

Let this be swift and painless.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 19, 2016 • 5:54:56pm
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Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 5:55:59pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Bernie Sanders has already left New York and is heading back to Vermont. He knows he’s going down tonight.

From your lips to God’s ears. But I thought he was in Pennsylvania tonight. Who says he’s heading back to Vermont?

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 5:56:36pm

Do we want Trump to clean up and further stymie the Anti-Trump effort?

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unproven innocence  Apr 19, 2016 • 5:58:35pm

If DT loses, will he demand a riot? If he wins, will he demand a recount? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 5:58:55pm

re: #4 Brian J.

They just said this on MSNBC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 5:59:16pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Bernie Sanders has already left New York and is heading back to Vermont. He knows he’s going down tonight.

I think he’s still talking at his rally in PA

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:00:00pm

ummmmm….

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:00:06pm

The autosave feature for LGF Pages is now all the way LIVE.

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Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:00:46pm

And CNN makes the call for Trump. They have things pretty close on the D side: looks like about 52-47 for Clinton.

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:01:40pm

re: #11 Brian J.

And CNN makes the call for Trump. They have things pretty close on the D side: looks like about 52-47 for Clinton.

Drudge (i know) headline:

NEW YORK EXIT POLLS:
CLINTON 54% SANDERS 46%
TRUMP 61% KASICH 24% CRUZ 15%

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:01:44pm

I’ve got 20 bucks on Trump getting 79 or fewer delegates, so here’s to him doing very well, but not so well as to kill the point spread.

RBS

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:05:03pm

Wow:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:08:18pm
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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:08:42pm

re: #14 b.d.

Wow:

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I wonder if this is going to be like Nevada where the exit polling places did not reflect the actual voting demographics.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:09:58pm
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Ming5000  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:10:22pm

re: #16 Belafon

I hope so because this is too close

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:10:47pm
What. The. Fuck?!?
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nines09  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:10:47pm

re: #6 unproven innocence

If DT loses, will he demand a riot? If he wins, will he demand a recount? Inquiring minds want to know.

DT will not go quietly. But you knew that. I cold see him inciting violence, and then as it either explodes or simmers to the point of violence, to come forward and play the peacemaker and blame everyone but his extremism on the injuries and I hope not deaths. Donald Trump plays well in some areas. He’s a voice. A person who understands. He’s with you. He holds up 8X10 color glossies of what is playing between their ears. Donald Trump is the pimp in the big car, talking large, saying what you ought to do, and has the people who should know better, because Trumps have fucked them for generations, excited. I think “strong man” comes to mind. Balls. Tough guy. Yeah. mercah. shit. uh huh. yep. you know. right. ‘cause. umm……

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:10:59pm

Since it looks like we’re going to have the whole Bernie Sandham Clinders business at least through the Oregon primary—and probably all the way through California at the beginning of June—I’d like to take the opportunity to establish some First Principles for both sides in the obviously vain hope that they’ll listen. OK, here goes:

1.) Not everything is a personal attack.

Throwing dollar bills at limos arriving at a fundraiser is not a personal attack, nor is it sexist in any way, unless you’ve been spending Pacman Jones-quality time in certain establishments. Hell, in one of his finest moments, Abbie Hoffman “made it rain” on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange and laughed as the suits below scrambled for every dollar bill. This was not sexist. It was a prank, and a fine one, too. Was the money-tossing distasteful? Well, maybe, but the implication that HRC is obliged to her big money donors is no more distasteful than suggesting that Bernie Sanders’ alleged allegiance to the NRA makes him indifferent to the mothers of the murdered children at Sandy Hook. Get over yourselves.

2.) If something is a personal attack, so what?

CNN is doing a clever little series about blood-thirsty presidential campaigns of the past. In 1824, for example, the Jackson folks accused John Quincy Adams of pimping for the Tsar. The Adams people accused Jackson-and his wife-of bigamy. When we get to that level of invective, Robby Mook and Tad Devine can give me a call. Until then, grow a thicker skin, the lot of you. A lot worse is coming in the fall.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:11:10pm

The AP has already called it for Trump, it seems. Only question is margin.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:11:54pm

re: #14 b.d.

Wow:

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As a native New Yorker I suspect the most common answer to exit poll takers initial questions were: GFYS

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Tigger2  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:11:57pm

re: #14 b.d.

Wow:

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Don’t know which to believe.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:11:59pm

Well, that was quick.

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gocart mozart  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:12:51pm
3.) Not everything is a dirty trick.

The fact that independent voters failed to meet a deadline for a Democratic primary and, therefore, probably won’t be able to vote in it, is not in any way “voter suppression.” That’s an insult to all those people out in the country whose votes really are being suppressed, as well as to the memory of all those people of the past whose votes were suppressed by virtue of their being murdered. Calm the fck down, please. And stay out of court.

4.) Please make actual arguments in which apples are compared to apples.

The answer to, “Why won’t you release the damn transcripts?” is not “Where are your tax returns?” That is ducking and dodging the question, which is, in case we’ve forgotten, “Why won’t you release the damn transcripts?” If it is because you made nicey-nice with some unpopular thieves, then own it and move on. If it is because almost 40 years of ratfcking has made you justifiably nervous, then the American voter needs to know that, too, before the American voter decides to bring that circus back to Washington.

5.) And, finally, your vote affects me and millions of other people.

Like baseball, an election is a collective statement made up of many individual actions. Therefore, if your binky gets knocked in the dirt, and you throw a tantrum and stay home, we all have to live with those consequences, including a lot of people who don’t share your privilege or your income. If you want to stay home, we can’t stop you. (They can in Australia, but never mind.) But please don’t brag about how you are too fine a person to vote. The blood of Viola Liuzzo and Medgar Evers cries out from the earth in opposition to your prideful vanity.

That’s it. Now go have an election.

esquire.com

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Joe Bacon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:13:19pm

Tweety Matthews quoting Ayn Rand…Time to switch the channel…

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:13:31pm

Oh there’s Steve Schmidt coming on to MSNBC, time to check out what CNN is yammering about

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:14:06pm

re: #24 Tigger2

Don’t know which to believe.

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Don’t believe either. Early results are real, but too limited to be useful, while exit polls are way less real, but less limited.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:14:35pm

NYT has Clinton 62.2, Sanders 37.8.

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Tigger2  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:14:52pm

Democratic Primary

First results: Clinton leads by 24 points, with 4% reporting.
CANDIDATES VOTE PCT.
Hillary Clinton 25,120 62.2%
Bernie Sanders 15,284 37.8
40,404 votes, 4% reporting (531 of 15,067 precincts)

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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:14:58pm

Latest update indicates Clinton 62%, Sanders 38%. How is this in any way considered “close”?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:15:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:15:34pm

re: #32 Archangelus

Latest update indicates Clinton 62%, Sanders 38%. How is this in any way considered “close”?

berniemath

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:16:02pm
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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:16:03pm

“Too close to call”…

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:16:26pm

re: #14 b.d.

Wow:

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CNN took a poll of its employees from New York.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:16:26pm

re: #32 Archangelus

Latest update indicates Clinton 62%, Sanders 38%. How is this in any way considered “close”?

Because it’s only 4% of the total votes reported and numbers can be in flux for a while?

If that’s where it sits at when the reported total is 95% we can wonder about how it was close.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:16:46pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:16:48pm

re: #32 Archangelus

Latest update indicates Clinton 62%, Sanders 38%. How is this in any way considered “close”?

Exit polls show a tighter race than initial precinct results.

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Ming5000  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:16:54pm

re: #32 Archangelus

Latest update indicates Clinton 62%, Sanders 38%. How is this in any way considered “close”?

I would call out anyone who called that close.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:17:44pm

Looks like Havana Ted is going to finish behind Kasich. That’s interesting.

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missliberties  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:18:15pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Bernie Sanders has already left New York and is heading back to Vermont. He knows he’s going down tonight.

Good.

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:18:21pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Looks like Havana Ted is going to finish behind Kasich. That’s interesting.

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Tigger2  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:18:31pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

Exit polls show a tighter race than initial precinct results.

I don’t trust exit polls.

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Ming5000  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:18:40pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Looks like Havana Ted is going to finish behind Kasich. That’s interesting.

The GOP mess dwarfs the Democratic struggle. Wow.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:18:43pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Looks like Havana Ted is going to finish behind Kasich. That’s interesting.

wait til Ted goes in for the county conventions and gets his delegates slated.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:19:17pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon

Tweety Matthews quoting Ayn Rand…Time to switch the channel…

And gibbering away about ” infrastructure” and how Donald Trump is such a great “builder” —- Gag….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:19:20pm

re: #45 Tigger2

I don’t trust exit polls.

Wise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:19:30pm

re: #33 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:21:06pm

re: #48 Jay C

And gibbering away about ” infrastructure” and how Donald Trump is such a great “builder” —- Gag….

Trumps real skill is not paying his builders.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:21:09pm
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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:21:31pm

Hmmmmmm

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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:21:46pm

re: #45 Tigger2

I don’t trust exit polls.

Last time i trusted exit polls was in 2000…

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:24:04pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:24:12pm

re: #53 b.d.

BUT BUT BUT….WILLIAMSBURG!!!

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:24:48pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

BUT BUT BUT….WILLIAMSBURG!!!

Need moar Spike Lee ads!! Stat!!

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:25:02pm

re: #33 klys (maker of Silmarils)

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:25:39pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

When people are all like “but what good is Twitter” the answer is this. This tweet right here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:26:12pm

re: #55 b.d.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:26:14pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

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Oh, shit! Better get this ring off….

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:27:30pm

re: #61 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, shit! Better get this ring off….

Didn’t your mom ever tell you not to take rings from strangers?

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:28:30pm

Kasich is winning Manhattan 44-43 with 40% in

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:28:31pm

re: #62 Belafon

Didn’t your mom ever tell you not to take rings from strangers?

I thought it was candy…

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Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:28:52pm

And the CBC projects a majority government for Manitoba’s Progressive Conservatives!

Oh, and in New York…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:28:53pm
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Tigger2  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:29:12pm
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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:29:26pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The exits must be Borked or the Bernieow? votes will all come in at once someh

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:29:29pm

re: #62 Belafon

Didn’t your mom ever tell you not to take rings from strangers?

That’s why we have Caller ID.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:29:41pm
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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:30:48pm

Damn, the exit polls were just to punk the BernieBros?

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BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:31:12pm

re: #28 b.d.

Oh there’s Steve Schmidt coming on to MSNBC, time to check out what CNN is yammering about

I lasted through about 30 seconds of Steve Kornacki bouncing around like a helium balloon, switched to CNN to watch Wolf bat his eyes for about 15 seconds, then turned it off, pulled up the NYT live results page and came back to join you fine folks.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:31:15pm

So how will Bernie spin this loss? He seems to be getting his clocked clean in a far from conservative state.

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Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:31:53pm

re: #73 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So how will Bernie spin this loss? He seems to be getting his clocked clean in a far from conservative state.

Ever see “Gangs of New York”? Confederate sentiment runs very high in New York!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:31:59pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:32:10pm

re: #73 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So how will Bernie spin this loss? He seems to be getting his clocked clean in a far from conservative state.

There’s ALWAYS an excuse.

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Unabogie  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:32:12pm

re: #73 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So how will Bernie spin this loss? He seems to be getting his clocked clean in a far from conservative state.

Momentum!!!

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Kragar  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:32:28pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:32:54pm

Good on Democratic voters in New York state. They saw that their primary was of great consequence and decided en masse to hopefully wrap up the whole nominating process. Bernie should drop out tonight. I’m not holding my breath.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:32:59pm

re: #73 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So how will Bernie spin this loss? He seems to be getting his clocked clean in a far from conservative state.

Most New Yorkers live in the southern half of the state.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:33:19pm

re: #33 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Amory Blaine  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:33:25pm

Kasich is really gumming it up for ol’ Ted.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:33:30pm

re: #73 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So how will Bernie spin this loss? He seems to be getting his clocked clean in a far from conservative state.

Maybe he’ll give Rubio’s speech about winning from third place.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:35:01pm

with 30% of vote in, Clinton has a measly 120,000 vote lead

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:35:10pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:35:11pm

re: #71 b.d.

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Damn, the exit polls were just to punk the BernieBros?

NYC is southern NY State. Those wins don’t matter.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:35:28pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Bernie Sanders has already left New York and is heading back to Vermont. He knows he’s going down tonight.

But The Cranky Old Goat Who Yells At Clouds Bernie and Those Goddamend Frat Bros I Thought I Left Behind at Cal State the Bernie supporters kept telling me Hillary Is The Anti Christ If Such A Thing Existed and Debbie Wasserman Schultz is The False Prophet that this thing was wrapped up and Hillary was gonna go down tonight for the count.

Not so much, eh?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:35:34pm

re: #82 Amory Blaine

Kasich is really gumming it up for ol’ Ted.

$5 says Trump is secretly paying him to stay in the race.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:36:20pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:36:41pm

hahahahaha

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:36:53pm

We’ll probably need to do welfare checks on David Sirota, Shaun King and Glenn Greenwald tonight. Apoplexy comes to mind.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:36:56pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

$5 says Trump is secretly paying him to stay in the race.

$10 bucks says it’s Reince Priebus.

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:38:04pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

$5 says Trump is secretly paying him to stay in the race.

brings him in as his VP pick, picks up the delegates he has, has a semi-decent chance of carrying Ohio, shit… it might actually make sense.

RBS

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:38:09pm

re: #92 Lidane

$10 bucks says it’s Reince Priebus.

Matching funds from DWS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:38:14pm
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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:38:30pm

re: #91 teleskiguy

We’ll probably need to do welfare checks on David Sirota, Shaun King and Glenn Greenwald tonight. Apoplexy comes to mind.

Can they wait until tomorrow?

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:38:43pm
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Tigger2  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:39:03pm

Democratic Primary

Clinton leads by 22 points, with 32% reporting.
CANDIDATES VOTE PCT.
Hillary Clinton 399,366 60.8%
Bernie Sanders 257,159 39.2
656,525 votes, 32% reporting (4,748 of 15,067 precincts)

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Kragar  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:39:18pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:39:21pm
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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:39:33pm

Donald is calling him Senator Cruz instead of Lyin’ Ted, he’s listening to his new handler.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:40:07pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:40:27pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

BUT BUT BUT….WILLIAMSBURG!!!

LOL when I think of Williamsburg I think of Satmar hasidim, totally Hillary all the way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:41:03pm
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Kragar  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:41:32pm
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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:41:34pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:41:51pm

re: #101 b.d.

Donald is calling him Senator Cruz instead of Lyin’ Ted, he’s listening to his new handler.

Handler has a tranq gun?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:42:16pm
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bratwurst  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:42:36pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Every Bernie surrogate has been on TV in the last week with the talking points “Bernie IS a registered Democrat!” and “Bernie DOES raise money for other Democrats” as if everyone is supposed to forget that until recently neither was true.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:42:49pm

He’s been on fire today.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:42:54pm

Berniestans right now:

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:43:08pm
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Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:43:18pm

CNN still shows Hillary with 60.5% of the vote with 41% in, but the upstate has been better for Sanders and is relatively slow to report.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:43:22pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Manhattan tells Trump ‘You’re FIRED!”.

Where is Trump’s party this evening? Google says NYC. Haha.

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:43:39pm

Yep

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:43:40pm

I have a cat sitting in my lap and purring.

Really that’s the important part of this evening.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:43:59pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Handledler has a tranq gun?

Shock collar.

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No Depression  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:44:09pm

re: #32 Archangelus

Latest update indicates Clinton 62%, Sanders 38%. How is this in any way considered “close”?

Because you’re not counting the millions of suppressed votes!

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Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:44:11pm

re: #116 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have a cat sitting in my lap and purring.

Really that’s the important part of this evening.

Indeed.

And CNN joins the crowd and calls New York for Secretary Clinton.

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BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:44:19pm

There was a guy at the dailybern who was all excited about his efforts in Westchester County—raising money to buy buttons and rallying the troops for canvassing, particularly in Chappaqua—thinking that would really stick it to Hillary.

Westchester results thus far (about 10% in) Hillary 65.4 to 34.6. Great allocation of time and effort, Berners.

Also, while I hate John Kasich, it would really piss Trump off to lose Manhattan to the Ohio usurper—right now, that’s the only place Trump isn’t ahead.

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:44:23pm

CNN calls it for HRC

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:44:48pm

re: #106 b.d.

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I was going to comment on that a bit earlier. It’s scary, it’s mutating to a form that to the un-informed may seem harmless, perhaps even desirable. Be interesting to see what will happen when Trump moves toward the center for the General Election. (And I would say that he’s beginning to take that mode now to some degree)

RBS

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:44:58pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:45:42pm

Bernie will claim victory because Hillary didn’t win by [insert Calvinball goalpost with attached jet engines here] number he pulled out of his ass.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:45:55pm

re: #57 b.d.

Someone was saying on TPV that the Williamsburg turnout was very light.

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:46:20pm

re: #122 Reality Based Steve

I was going to comment on that a bit earlier. It’s scary, it’s mutating to a form that to the un-informed may seem harmless, perhaps even desirable. Be interesting to see what will happen when Trump moves toward the center for the General Election. (And I would say that he’s beginning to take that mode now to some degree)

RBS

The Donald I saw tonight scares me the most.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:46:21pm

Sorry for the OT but this tweet reminded me of something that happened earlier today:

We were in the middle of a marathon 4 1/2 hour biz dev meeting today when one of the millennials on staff suddenly asked what Tim McVeigh’s motives had been for blowing up the Murrah building. I explained that in his mind, he was getting revenge for the Waco and Ruby Ridge standoffs. Her next questions - “What standoff in Waco? And what’s Ruby Ridge?”

I wanted to crawl into a hole and die. I couldn’t very well get into all that during a meeting, especially not as the lone non-Republican. I just said that they were armed standoffs with the feds that caused a lot of controversy and suggested she look them up on Google.

And now I feel old. Fuck.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:46:34pm

re: #120 BeachDem

Obnoxious as a lot of them have been, at least that guy is (theoretically) walking the walk and not just talking the talk.

I hope he realizes that this struggle is bigger than the personality cult of Bernie and is ready to do the same for November no matter who the Democratic candidate is.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:46:38pm

I wonder if Hillary’s 60-40 lead is going to hold up? I would think that the Downstate returns - where one would assume Bernie would do his best - would come in first, and the Upstate numbers ( of course, from a ” conservative” area, so therefore irrelevant) would be even better for Mrs Clinton , when counted

ETA: Or maybe not, as per #113

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Kragar  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:47:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:47:13pm

re: #124 Aunty Entity Dragon

Bernie will claim victory because Hillary didn’t win by [insert Calvinball goalpost with attached jet engines here] number he pulled out of his ass.

I’m sure of it. It’ll be “No one predicted us to do this well” which gets old by February.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:47:32pm

re: #124 Aunty Entity Dragon

Bernie will claim victory because Hillary didn’t win by [insert Calvinball goalpost with attached jet engines here] number he pulled out of his ass.

+1 for the Calvinball mention.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:47:45pm

re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Really this is me having a probably somewhat inconvenient attack of empathy and feeling bad for the guy, because I remember how horrible it was to watch the returns come in on Prop 8 in 2008.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:48:17pm

re: #113 Brian J.

+40 would be about half the delegates netted by Sanders Since March 22.

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worldknot  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:48:32pm

Fraud at the polls

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:48:41pm

re: #120 BeachDem

Great allocation of time and effort, Berners.

There ya go…

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BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:50:00pm

re: #99 Kragar

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GOP pundit Nicole Wallace claimed Trump has changed.

Nicolle Wallace gets on my next to last nerve; Steve Schmidt gets on my last one. What’s changed is that MSNBC now features horrible “pundits” like the two of them. Talk about failing upward.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:50:11pm

re: #106 b.d.

You can tell Trump’s new advisers are having an influence. Much more measured. More fact based. And a WAY shorter speech.

I’ll give him until 10:00 tomorrow morning before he starts to blow up on Twitter about losing NYC.

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:50:19pm

Just tell the Exit Poll guy that you voted for Bernie so you’ll seem cool.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:50:21pm

Rachel just said in so many words, Fuck You and your New York Values, Ted!

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Nyet  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:50:23pm

Once again Sanders loses what he cannot afford to lose. And now the percentages he must win elsewhere to survive become even less realistic.

Shut down your campaign, old man while you still can do it on a relatively high note. It’s all downHill from here.

Mindless Self Indulgence- Joke

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:50:31pm

re: #129 Jay C

I wonder if Hillary’s 60-40 lead is going to hold up? I would think that the Downstate returns - where one would assume Bernie would do his best - would come in first, and the Upstate numbers ( of course, from a ” conservative” area, so therefore irrelevant) would be even better for Mrs Clinton , when counted

So far the numbers from upstate NY have gone more for Bernie.

It may have to do to the demographics/mindset being similar to Vermont/New Hampshire.

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Kragar  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:50:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:51:36pm

re: #140 Dave In Austin

Rachel just said in so many words, Fuck You and your New York Values, Ted!

Good to see New Yorkers told Cruz to fuck off. I’m not a New Yorker but his attacks on a great city were disgusting.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:52:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:52:54pm

re: #142 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So far the numbers from upstate NY have gone more for Bernie.

It may have to do to the demographics/mindset being similar to Vermont/New Hampshire.

That’s my guess too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:54:22pm

I WANT ALL OF THIS IN MY MOUTH RIGHT NOW

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:54:23pm

Not looking good, RBS.

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:55:04pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

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BernieBros Tonight
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Kragar  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:55:19pm
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Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:55:26pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hahahahaha

With 81% of precincts reporting from Manhattan, there have been just 19,000 Republican votes. Democratic votes: 207,000.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:56:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:57:54pm
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Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:57:55pm

Wolf Blitzer is now modeling the rest of the GOP primaries. His scenario has Trump missing… by one. And Kasich STILL won’t get out of fourth place, he’ll still be nine behind Rubio.

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BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:58:10pm

re: #114 stpaulbear

Manhattan tells Trump ‘You’re FIRED!”.

Where is Trump’s party this evening? Google says NYC. Haha.

Hey—right now Ted Cruz has a 3 vote lead in Ulster County. Winning! (total votes counted thus far, 14)

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:58:11pm

re: #149 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yea, looks like I was a bit optimistic on the odds of Kaisch playing the spoiler to some degree. Unless the earth shifts severely on it’s axis during the night, I’m 20 bucks poorer come morning.

RBS

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Nyet  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:58:30pm

The Berd is done. Stick a fork in it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:58:59pm

re: #157 Reality Based Steve

Yea, looks like I was a bit optimistic on the odds of Kaisch playing the spoiler to some degree. Unless the earth shifts severely on it’s axis during the night, I’m 20 bucks poorer come morning.

RBS

Hey, at least you have gin!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:59:00pm

re: #158 Nyet

The Berd is done. Stick a fork in it.

It doesn’t get essier from here.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:59:27pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:59:31pm

re: #159 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hey, at least you have gin!

But WHY is the rum always gone?!

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Majacita  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:59:35pm

Now I have to get all my Bernie supporter friends to forgive Hillary for winning. It doesn’t help that most of my adult life I was an actual Republican. On the other hand my yellow dog Democrat mother-in-law has been a Hillary supporter for years. I will borrow some of her cred.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 6:59:58pm

re: #162 thedopefishlives

But WHY is the rum always gone?!

My rum’s not gone. Maybe you need to buy a bigger bottle.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:00:19pm

Bernie needs nothing less than a miracle to overcome this loss. This is why he didn’t even stick around in New York tonight.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:00:37pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:00:40pm

re: #164 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My rum’s not gone. Maybe you need to buy a bigger bottle.

Actually, rum I have on hand. It’s whiskey that has a pesky habit of disappearing from this house. I dunno why. Not a single clue. Nope. Can’t remember drinking a drop of it.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:01:36pm

At 50%, Clinton’s ahead by 19%. Delegates are currently 104-85 in her favor.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:02:07pm

CNN has updated their exit polls…
My math reads it as:
Clinton 55
Sanders 44

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MsJ  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:02:07pm
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Reality Based Steve  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:02:15pm

In the “Hope Springs Eternal” category….

Alan Rappeport9:55 PM
Just got a memo from Kasich’s chief strategist, John Weaver. He’s calling the results a big moment for the Ohio governor: “Gov. Kasich proved that he is best positioned against Donald Trump in the upcoming April 26 states.”

From the live feed at NYT.

RBS

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:02:30pm

re: #163 Majacita

Now I have to get all my Bernie supporter friends to forgive Hillary for winning. It doesn’t help that most of my adult life I was an actual Republican. On the other hand my yellow dog Democrat mother-in-law has been a Hillary supporter for years. I will borrow some of her cred.

It’s possible that the style of Bernie’s campaign has put a large number of young people out of reach of Dem GOTV.

Perhaps permanently.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:02:34pm

re: #167 thedopefishlives

actually, rum I have on hand. It’s whiskey that has a pesky habit of disappearing from this house. I dunno why. Not a single clue. Nope. Can’t remember drinking a drop of it.

Last week was great.

We did end up going to Senor Frog’s with my in-laws. They enjoyed it! Also the drinks were tasty. I would have had a few more except in-laws.

Now I am back to having to be good. Especially since the scale was not kind to me yesterday morning. Stupid scale.

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Nyet  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:02:42pm

HAHAHAHAHA.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:03:34pm
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BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:03:42pm

re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Obnoxious as a lot of them have been, at least that guy is (theoretically) walking the walk and not just talking the talk.

I hope he realizes that this struggle is bigger than the personality cult of Bernie and is ready to do the same for November no matter who the Democratic candidate is.

Oh, I know—it’s just that he was peacock proud to be canvassing in Chappaqua, thinking it was such a coup and that it would cut Hillary to the quick to have Berners in her backyard.

Speaking of Westchester, I get to spend 3 glorious weeks working there next month—just glad it’s after the primary, so I won’t have to listen to a bunch of noise and/or fight campaign traffic.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:03:47pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:03:58pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Last week was great.

We did end up going to Senor Frog’s with my in-laws. They enjoyed it! Also the drinks were tasty. I would have had a few more except in-laws.

Now I am back to having to be good. Especially since the scale was not kind to me yesterday morning. Stupid scale.

I knocked out a bottle of Woodford Reserve over the last month. Mrs. Fish was like, “Wait, I thought that was a sipping whiskey?! Y’know, you’d have a glass, like, once a month or something?” I responded, “No, I meant I wouldn’t use it for mixing. If I was only drinking it once a month, I’d buy something a hell of a lot more expensive and tastier.”

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:04:13pm

re: #172 Decatur Deb

It’s possible that the style of Bernie’s campaign has put a large number of young people out of reach of Dem GOTV.

Perhaps permanently.

Most of them will be fine.

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MsJ  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:04:22pm

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

I WANT ALL OF THIS IN MY MOUTH RIGHT NOW

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Making those! Yummo!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:04:38pm

re: #171 Reality Based Steve

In the “Hope Springs Eternal” category….

Alan Rappeport9:55 PM
Just got a memo from Kasich’s chief strategist, John Weaver. He’s calling the results a big moment for the Ohio governor: “Gov. Kasich proved that he is best positioned against Donald Trump in the upcoming April 26 states.”

From the live feed at NYT.

RBS

Weaver and Tad Devine have the same dealer.

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freetoken  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:04:45pm

CNN just gave one delegate to Kasich.

Tokenism at its best?

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:04:52pm

WTF Ted. He’s busy whining about Trump crushing him in NY by a greater margin than by which Cruz won over Trump in Texas.

The current tally shows 62% to Trump, 24 Kasich, 14% for Cruz.

For Clinton, she’s beating Bernie 59-41. 18 points. That’s at a time when Bernie needed to win by that kind of margin. It’s all downhill from here for Bernie. He’s losing big in polling in MD, CT, PA, CA, and there’s no path to the nomination for Bernie. It’s a foregone conclusion.

Same thing with Trump - he’s sealing the deal for his nomination, no matter how much right wing extremists caterwaul over Trump. He’s the candidate they deserve.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:05:47pm

re: #178 thedopefishlives

I knocked out a bottle of Woodford Reserve over the last month. Mrs. Fish was like, “Wait, I thought that was a sipping whiskey?! Y’know, you’d have a glass, like, once a month or something?” I responded, “No, I meant I wouldn’t use it for mixing. If I was only drinking it once a month, I’d buy something a hell of a lot more expensive and tastier.”

When you’re ready for that sort of stuff, I have a scotch store I could recommend…

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:06:01pm

re: #174 Nyet

HAHAHAHAHA.

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At least he got the frequent flyer miles.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:06:07pm

OT - So I was hanging around looking at animated gifs right before I came back here to see how the primaries were going, and I saw this (weird place to find it—are they using an evil looking blue bear shitting in the woods for that post or something?):

Because of course they did. //

Yeah, no, I didn’t even click. That kind of stuff is just as stupid at the crap they say about Muslims. And why wouldn’t it be? It all comes from the same hateful place.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:06:43pm

re: #184 klys (maker of Silmarils)

When you’re ready for that sort of stuff, I have a scotch store I could recommend…

Mrs. Fish has a place she wants to take me. Also, lesser-aged bottles of The Macallan and similar name-brand Scotch whiskeys can be had from my local liquor store. If I want something that’s got some age to it, I’ll have to go elsewhere, though.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:07:06pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:07:35pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Last week was great.

We did end up going to Senor Frog’s with my in-laws. They enjoyed it! Also the drinks were tasty. I would have had a few more except in-laws.

Now I am back to having to be good. Especially since the scale was not kind to me yesterday morning. Stupid scale.

probably water weight, happens to me when I drink a few beers. :(

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:08:00pm

re: #188 Lidane

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But Dem voters aren’t excited.//

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:08:04pm

re: #187 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish has a place she wants to take me. Also, lesser-aged bottles of The Macallan and similar name-brand Scotch whiskeys can be had from my local liquor store. If I want something that’s got some age to it, I’ll have to go elsewhere, though.

There’s a store up in SF that specializes in Scotch. I occasionally get mr. klys a small sample-size bottle of various things.

Oh, and there’s a website from the UK that is DANGEROUS. I haven’t let myself order anything yet. (They also do gin.)

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No Depression  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:08:12pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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STOP PANDERING TO PEOPLE WHO LIKE MUSIC, HILLARY!!1!!!1!

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MsJ  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:08:29pm

re: #172 Decatur Deb

It’s possible that the style of Bernie’s campaign has put a large number of young people out of reach of Dem GOTV.

Perhaps permanently.

Sitting out, perhaps (which they do anyway). Going GOP? Doubt it.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:08:40pm

For normal evening drinking, though, I’ve found that bourbons have a permanent place in my heart. Reasonably cheap, just the right amount of bite, and go well with a Coke if I feel like mixing.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:08:57pm

re: #179 Belafon

Most of them will be fine.

It’s hard enough to move that age group when they don’t think you’re a Wall Street whore.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:09:03pm

Bernie, losing Democratic vote by 200,000, has 50,000 more votes than entire Republican field

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:09:09pm

re: #152 Brian J.

With 81% of precincts reporting from Manhattan, there have been just 19,000 Republican votes. Democratic votes: 207,000.

Overall, Democratic turnout looks to be about three times that for the Republicans. Bernie Sanders, in losing badly, still seems to be getting more votes than ALL the GOP candidates combined.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:09:23pm

re: #182 freetoken

CNN just gave one delegate to Kasich.

Tokenism at its best?

Manhattan

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:10:20pm

re: #189 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

probably water weight, happens to me when I drink a few beers. :(

I’m hoping. Obnoxiously, mr. klys gained NOTHING.

I was down some this morning, and I figure I won’t take it seriously until next week, really. And in the meantime, I keep up my good eating and exercise. Between the pictures from vacation and pictures from just this past Christmas, I can see a pretty clear difference, so it’s not just all in my head.

I worked out every day on the ship (2.5 miles on the elliptical, a 5k, and two weight days), and we took the stairs everywhere. So at least I was good even on vacation. Except I did eat whatever and enjoyed myself.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:10:54pm

re: #191 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There’s a store up in SF that specializes in Scotch. I occasionally get mr. klys a small sample-size bottle of various things.

Oh, and there’s a website from the UK that is DANGEROUS. I haven’t let myself order anything yet. (They also do gin.)

Mrs. Fish said that an 18-year bottle of The Macallan was something on the order of $250. I’m sure I could do a lot more damage than that.

OH! While I was in North Carolina, we stopped at some place that advertised itself as one of two mixology bars in the United States. My boss ordered a custom-mixed Scotch whiskey frozen with liquid nitrogen. Holy hell.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:11:37pm

re: #199 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I gained 3 lbs over my last business trip, which I got home a week ago. I just now got back to where I was before that trip. Weight loss is hard.

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freetoken  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:11:37pm

re: #198 FormerDirtDart

Well, 538 currently shows Kasich with a possible 3 delegates. Finishing 2nd in 3 districts in which Drumpfskind didn’t get over the 50% mark.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:11:48pm

re: #143 Kragar

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Preparation Hillary - Cures the Bern
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:11:56pm

re: #199 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m sure it is, water weight is the bane of my existence right now. Try going low sodium for a few days and drink lots of water (as usual I am sure). I never trust the scale on Monday, by tuesday it tends to be better.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:12:04pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:12:26pm

re: #200 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish said that an 18-year bottle of The Macallan was something on the order of $250. I’m sure I could do a lot more damage than that.

OH! While I was in North Carolina, we stopped at some place that advertised itself as one of two mixology bars in the United States. My boss ordered a custom-mixed Scotch whiskey frozen with liquid nitrogen. Holy hell.

mr. klys and I went by Booker and Dax in NYC when we were there over Christmas, which also plays with liquid nitrogen.

That stuff is fun.

(We will ignore the part where we were recognized by one of the bartenders who had previously worked at one of our favorite places out here and had just moved to NYC.)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:12:39pm

re: #188 Lidane

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Now if only we’d do this during midterms. Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:13:06pm

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

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I heard a lot more of his ads when I was in New York than hers.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:13:26pm

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

Does that include the cost of ambushing the pope?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:14:00pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:14:40pm

This is a metaphor for Bernie Sanders’ campaign. The New York primary begins at about 3:10 into the video.

Avalanche @vail pass Colorado

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calochortus  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:15:15pm

It’s hard to know whether to be happy or horrified by Trump’s win. Gah.
A nice glass of syrah is helping here.

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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:15:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:15:32pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

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I’m shocked that Cruz got his ass handed to him in a state that he obviously despises. Fuck Cruz and his hatred of the city that welcomed so many of our ancestors to this country.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:15:32pm

re: #209 stpaulbear

Does that include the cost of ambushing the pope?

I don’t think it does. Pretty sure that only counts in State event and media spending.

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No Depression  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:15:40pm

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

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That money would’ve been better spent on unicorn feed.

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Nyet  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:17:11pm

NATE SILVER 10:15 PM
Clinton’s chances of becoming the next president are now 71.4 percent, according to Betfair, the highest she’s been at any point of the election cycle.

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Majacita  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:17:24pm

Just got off the phone with my 84 year old mother-in-law. She says she doesn’t mind that I’m a Hillary bandwagon supporter. She wrote her a congratulatory note (She’s a southern lady) and is now going to bed happy.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:17:40pm

Hillary cleaned Bernie’s clock in New York tonight. A 21% lead.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:18:08pm

re: #211 teleskiguy

This is a metaphor for Bernie Sanders’ campaign. The New York primary begins at about 3:10 into the video.

Cruising along, nice smooth ride — HOLY SHIT THERE’S A SNOW CLIFF

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:18:56pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

Hillary cleaned Bernie’s clock in New York tonight. A 21% lead.

Damn I was thinking that it would be more like 15.

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No Depression  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:19:07pm

re: #217 Nyet

NATE SILVER 10:15 PM
Clinton’s chances of becoming the next president are now 71.4 percent, according to Betfair, the highest she’s been at any point of the election cycle.

BernieBros and Republicans scream out in unison, “NO! THAT’S UNPOSSIBLE!!1!!!!!!!”

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:19:22pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

Hillary cleaned Bernie’s clock in New York tonight. A 21% lead.

yup. but I guess NY is now part of the deep south.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:20:01pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:20:02pm

Temporary off politics for some food pr0n. Tonight’s dinner was eggplant rolotini (?)* and meatballs in red sauce with cheese.

Eggplant and Meatballs in prep
With cheese!

Baked in the oven for over an hour to get everything toasty hot.

* - Eggplant Rolotini is from Wegmans and is essentially a slice of breaded eggplant wrapped around a ricotta cheese mix. The meatballs were homemade using lean beef with a little ground pork and ground lamb (mix of 80/20 beef and meatloaf mix). The red sauce was homemade as well. Topped with shredded mozzarella and romano.

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jaunte  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:20:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:20:20pm

re: #223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

yup. but I guess NY is now part of the deep south.

Yeah I can’t wait to hear how this doesn’t matter.

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:20:43pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:20:47pm

re: #201 thedopefishlives

re: #204 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

We dressed up one night for a fancy dinner on the ship, and I fit back into a dress I’d bought in college (and hadn’t fit into for quite some time).

I’d upload a photo but it refuses to rotate properly when uploaded no matter what I do. Ah well. Still progress to go, but I can at least not be horrified when I am in a picture now.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:20:59pm

61% reporting, Clinton’s ahead by 17.6% according to the NYT.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:21:28pm

re: #127 Lidane

Sorry for the OT but this tweet reminded me of something that happened earlier today:

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We were in the middle of a marathon 4 1/2 hour biz dev meeting today when one of the millennials on staff suddenly asked what Tim McVeigh’s motives had been for blowing up the Murrah building. I explained that in his mind, he was getting revenge for the Waco and Ruby Ridge standoffs. Her next questions - “What standoff in Waco? And what’s Ruby Ridge?”

I wanted to crawl into a hole and die. I couldn’t very well get into all that during a meeting, especially not as the lone non-Republican. I just said that they were armed standoffs with the feds that caused a lot of controversy and suggested she look them up on Google.

And now I feel old. Fuck.

It was revenge for when the Germans attacked Peal Harbor. Try that next time.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:21:34pm

re: #229 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We dressed up one night for a fancy dinner on the ship, and I fit back into a dress I’d bought in college (and hadn’t fit into for quite some time).

I’d upload a photo but it refuses to rotate properly when uploaded no matter what I do. Ah well. Still progress to go, but I can at least not be horrified when I am in a picture now.

Mrs. Fish wants to kill me because she’s 1/2 lb into a 10 lb weight loss goal, and I’ve already lost 5 lb of my 15 lb goal.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:21:35pm

re: #228 b.d.

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Honestly, Cruz is in Sanders like territory. In denial about the inevitable.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:21:39pm

Sanders has about 30K more votes than the GOP.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:22:06pm

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

Speaking of food pr0n, I just had chocolate babka for the first time today. Om nom nom.

I’m addicted. That stuff is ridiculously good. I probably could’ve eaten the entire loaf in one sitting, but there were others so I had to share.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:22:30pm

re: #234 Belafon

Sanders has about 30K more votes than the GOP.

I know New York’s got a lot more registered D’s than R’s but still hahaha Reince PR BS, people don’t like your party’s stupid candidates.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:22:35pm

re: #212 calochortus

It’s hard to know whether to be happy or horrified by Trump’s win. Gah.
A nice glass of syrah is helping here.

Here’s some perspective==>

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Nyet  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:22:56pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Yeah I can’t wait to hear how this doesn’t matter.

Well, NY was going to vote Democratic anyway, so it doesn’t matter!!!1

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:23:08pm

Cruz will be back to insulting New Yorkers within the hour.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:23:21pm

re: #229 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We dressed up one night for a fancy dinner on the ship, and I fit back into a dress I’d bought in college (and hadn’t fit into for quite some time).

I’d upload a photo but it refuses to rotate properly when uploaded no matter what I do. Ah well. Still progress to go, but I can at least not be horrified when I am in a picture now.

I actually threw out all of my old clothes this weekend, lots of 2X and 3X shirts (now a large) and lots of 40 and 42 inch pants (now down to a 36) I kept the 38’s since do bulk.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:23:36pm

re: #232 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish wants to kill me because she’s 1/2 lb into a 10 lb weight loss goal, and I’ve already lost 5 lb of my 15 lb goal.

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Archangelus  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:23:51pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Cruz will be back to insulting New Yorkers within the hour.

When did he ever stop?

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BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:24:19pm

re: #188 Lidane

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Republican total votes 352K — 44% counted. Dems 1.06 million — 57% counted.

And good old Nassau County among the missing.

Also, these results should (probably won’t) put to rest the “But Bernie had the biggest rallies in the history of the world in Brooklyn and the Bronx and Manhattan, so he will win.”

Currently
Brooklyn—Hillary 60/40
Bronx—Hillary 70/30
Manhattan—Hillary 66/34
(and just for good measure—Queens—Hillary 61/39)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:24:32pm

re: #238 Nyet

Well, NY was going to vote Democratic anyway, so it doesn’t matter!!!1

I expect grumbling about the closed primary thing. You know the thing they could have taken care of months ago but nah it’s easy to want to influence the nomination process of a party you want little part of and then bitch.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:24:33pm

re: #220 thedopefishlives

Cruising along, nice smooth ride — HOLY SHIT THERE’S A SNOW CLIFF

That’s called a crown, starting point for a classic hard slab avalanche. This was a big one too, the crown was over five feet tall. All that snow (five feet deep spread over a few football fields) gave way in a matter of seconds. The Rockies have had a serious deep persistent slab problem this winter, that is, a layer of very old snow (from November) that’s very faceted near the ground, like ball bearings. All it took was a guy on a snowmobile to break a certain bond in the snow and you get the large avalanche that you see. Notice the size of the snow chunks at the bottom, debris the size of small cars. Thankfully no one was hurt.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:24:42pm

re: #232 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish wants to kill me because she’s 1/2 lb into a 10 lb weight loss goal, and I’ve already lost 5 lb of my 15 lb goal.

women have it harder, water weight it the one thing that they tend to have more of than we do and as a body builder friend of mine told my wife “Never weigh yourself during that time of the month”.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:24:44pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:24:44pm

re: #240 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I actually threw out all of my old clothes this weekend, lots of 2X and 3X shirts (now a large) and lots of 40 and 42 inch pants (now down to a 36) I kept the 38’s since do bulk.

I went clothes shopping when my parents were here.

There’s a lot of stuff packed up to be donated once I’m a little more comfortable that I’m going to keep this sticking.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:24:45pm

re: #242 Archangelus

When did he ever stop?

True he didn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:25:20pm

re: #247 goddamnedfrank

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I really wish Obama could run again too.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:25:23pm

re: #223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

yup. but I guess NY is now part of the deep south.

I was told to hold here until relieved.

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calochortus  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:25:26pm

re: #232 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish wants to kill me because she’s 1/2 lb into a 10 lb weight loss goal, and I’ve already lost 5 lb of my 15 lb goal.

That’s OK, I want to kill you too. So does every other woman out there who has ever tried to lose wait with her husband or significant other.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:25:32pm

re: #152 Brian J.

With 81% of precincts reporting from Manhattan, there have been just 19,000 Republican votes. Democratic votes: 207,000.

NYC Republicans live in Connecticut, or maybe Westchester.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:25:39pm

re: #82 Amory Blaine

Kasich is really gumming it up for ol’ Ted.

From ‘who is John Kasich’ and ‘he doesn’t stand a chance’ to ‘fuckers still in it and messin’ with Ted’. Hehehee.

I hate the son of a gun but again…he somehow pulls shit off.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:25:41pm

re: #241 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:25:51pm

re: #235 Lidane

If you’re liking chocolate babka, get yourself the Trader Joe’s version. Absolutely delightful.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:26:10pm

re: #254 ObserverArt

From ‘who is John Kasich’ and ‘he doesn’t stand a chance’ to ‘fuckers still in it and messin’ with Ted’. Hehehee.

I hate the son of a gun but again…he somehow pulls shit off.

I have to confess, I did underestimate that asshole.

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calochortus  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:26:22pm

re: #237 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s some perspective==>

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I know, but it’s just so horrible to think there are people who think Trump would be even vaguely adequate as president.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:27:30pm

You knew Bernie lost by big margin when he shuffled off to PA early. He knew he was losing big.

And his adviser still thinks there’s a path for him? There’s no path to the nomination. And his supporters will get this lesson repeated with each upcoming state. They’re all poised to deliver the same kind of shellacking that NY delivered tonight.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:28:49pm

re: #93 Reality Based Steve

brings him in as his VP pick, picks up the delegates he has, has a semi-decent chance of carrying Ohio, shit… it might actually make sense.

RBS

John Kasich WILL NOT take the VP slot. And with Trump as lead. No way no how.

He still has time as Governor and he would never play second fiddle to anyone. Dude has all he needs and if he drops out of this, he’ll finish off his Ohio term and probably go back on the FOX/Conservative speaking gigs, etc.

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:28:50pm

re: #256 lawhawk

If you’re liking chocolate babka, get yourself the Trader Joe’s version. Absolutely delightful.

Good to know. I’ll hit TJ’s this weekend and pick some up.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:28:55pm

Maybe Sanders people will start claiming that the delegates should be based on land area:

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:28:56pm

re: #259 lawhawk

A path to a possible cabinet post yes. And a path to retirement yes. To the White House no.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:29:23pm

re: #259 lawhawk

You knew Bernie lost by big margin when he shuffled off to PA early. He knew he was losing big.

And his adviser still thinks there’s a path for him? There’s no path to the nomination. And his supporters will get this lesson repeated with each upcoming state. They’re all poised to deliver the same kind of shellacking that NY delivered tonight.

Pittsburgh and Philly are going to make Pennsylvania tough for him. Hillary did very well in PA last time. PA’s a good state for her. A good amount of elderly and African-American voters.

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calochortus  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:29:31pm

re: #262 Belafon

Maybe Sanders people will start claiming that the delegates should be based on land area:

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Then he’d have to switch to the GOP. They have that theory locked up.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:29:59pm

re: #265 calochortus

Then he’d have to switch to the GOP. They have that theory locked up.

Nah, they’re very open-minded. Open to considering all stupid GOP ideas.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:30:05pm

re: #265 calochortus

Then he’d have to switch to the GOP. They have that theory locked up.

I have seen that one.

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stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:32:06pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Cruz will be back to insulting New Yorkers within the hour.

So will Trump.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:32:45pm

re: #245 teleskiguy

Here’s the crown of an avalanche that killed five people three years ago tomorrow. Imagine all that snow giving way and going highway speeds down a huge steep slope in a matter of seconds.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:32:58pm

They’re not going to be able to use the those states aren’t going for us anyhow since PA, Maryland, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Delaware are all solid Democratic states too. It’s not about what state is more or less Democratic in a GE. It’s about diversity. With the exception of Michigan, Bernie hasn’t done well in diverse states. That to me is the biggest strike against him as an electable candidate.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:33:02pm

re: #268 stpaulbear

And New Yorkers will respond in kind.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:33:18pm

re: #268 stpaulbear

So will Trump.

Trump already insults New Yorkers simply by existing.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:34:08pm

The butthurt is starting to swell an will be full blown by morning…..

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BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:36:30pm

re: #260 ObserverArt

John Kasich WILL NOT take the VP slot. And with Trump as lead. No way no how.

He still has time as Governor and he would never play second fiddle to anyone. Dude has all he needs and if he drops out of this, he’ll finish off his Ohio term and probably go back on the FOX/Conservative speaking gigs, etc.

I agree (of course). The clash of their personalities would create a dumpster fire that could be seen from space. Everyone knows Trump is insufferable, but you and I know Kasich is just as big an egomaniac.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:37:09pm

re: #273 Dave In Austin

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:37:30pm

re: #137 BeachDem

Nicolle Wallace gets on my next to last nerve; Steve Schmidt gets on my last one. What’s changed is that MSNBC now features horrible “pundits” like the two of them. Talk about failing upward.

Yeah…and don’t forget Chuckles Todd. He and Wallace have cooked up a routine about how Hillary may win the candidacy but Bernie has won the party with his revolution. He has the power…can’t you just feel it.

But then Chuckles claimed that it is a window that Bernie must work positively. He can’t be calling her out and do what he has been doing and expect her to listen.

What The F’n hell kind of thinking is this?

And oh yeah…Congrats to Hillary. I hope you get as many delegates out of NY as you can.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:38:00pm

re: #247 goddamnedfrank

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THIS.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:38:01pm

re: #274 BeachDem

I agree (of course). The clash of their personalities would create a dumpster fire that could be seen from space. Everyone knows Trump is insufferable, but you and I know Kasich is just as big an egomaniac.

What I’m seeing and we got into this last night is that Kasich is just as a sexist prick as Trump is. I saw some other comments by him today that made me want to smack the little shit, he told LGBT people to get over discrimination. Maybe his fellow Evangelical assholes should get the fuck over that they live in a country that gay people have civil rights but nah Johnny saves his bullshit for those who are discriminated against.

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:38:21pm

Right now, the GOP race is all about whether Trump gets to 50% in various districts. If he falls short, Kasich is likely to pick up a delegate or two.

NY-21 is one of those districts.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:39:28pm

re: #275 lawhawk

I was looking at the EdShultz post on FB. My God they are butthurt…. Fraud, Stolen votes, you name it.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:39:39pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:39:44pm
Not this crap again
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:39:51pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:40:14pm

re: #282 Feline Fearless Leader

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Basement Cat does not feel the Bern.

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:40:30pm

The Green Papers projects it out as Clinton 137 Delegates and Sanders 104. I wonder if the Democratic Party is going to think about perhaps being a bit less ‘aggressively proportional’ in terms of allocation of delegates the next time around.

FWIW, I learned a new term today, “Tactical Casual”. Yes, it is such a thing. It’s like Business Casual, but with 5.11 pants and polo shirts.

RVS

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darthstar  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:40:38pm

Congrats to Hillary for a solid win in NY. She will be the nominee.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:40:49pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummmmm….

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??? What the hell?

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lawhawk  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:40:50pm
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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:41:34pm

hahaha

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MsJ  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:41:41pm

re: #286 darthstar

Congrats to Hillary for a solid win in NY. She will be the nominee.

Thank you.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:41:42pm

re: #280 Dave In Austin

I was looking at the EdShultz post on FB. My God they are butthurt…. Fraud, Stolen votes, you name it.

It’s fraud when they lose but triumphant democracy when they win a caucus with 50,000 votes. Not dismissing their caucus victories but pointing out how two faced some Bernie supporters are.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:41:57pm

re: #286 darthstar

Congrats to Hillary for a solid win in NY. She will be the nominee.

I appreciate your dogged support for Bernie without devolving into a Berniestan asshole. You’re a great sport, buddy!

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Great White Snark  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:42:14pm

Had this pic for two years. For some reason just could not get it where I wanted it without cheating it. Some reason it just hit me to take another swing at it. So anyways, Mountain Trail Musing from 2014 high above Los Angeles.

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BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:44:31pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

What I’m seeing and we got into this last night is that Kasich is just as a sexist prick as Trump is. I saw some other comments by him today that made me want to smack the little shit, he told LGBT people to get over discrimination. Maybe his fellow Evangelical assholes should get the fuck over that they live in a country that gay people have civil rights but nah Johnny saves his bullshit for those who are discriminated against.

From the people who know him best:

President Get-Over-It: John Kasich’s Leadership Strategy Illuminated

The false-front persona Kasich has been deploying since announcing his bid for the Presidency is nothing more than a political marketing product, and not a very believable one, but occasionally the mask slips.

OK, often the mask slips, and Kasich is returned to his arrogant, prickly, rude, off-putting jerk self. Not that anyone outside of Ohio would notice because, well, as the Republican primary has thus far demonstrated, nobody outside of Ohio gives a damn about John Kasich.

But one particular phrase has repeatedly popped out of Kasich’s mouth in these moments that perfectly encapsulates the Kasich gubernatorial experience: Get Over It.

plunderbund.com

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:45:20pm

re: #288 lawhawk

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Hate to tell the guy that wouldn’t have helped.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:45:37pm

re: #285 Reality Based Steve

The Green Papers projects it out as Clinton 137 Delegates and Sanders 104. I wonder if the Democratic Party is going to think about perhaps being a bit less ‘aggressively proportional’ in terms of allocation of delegates the next time around.

FWIW, I learned a new term today, “Tactical Casual”. Yes, it is such a thing. It’s like Business Casual, but with 5.11 pants and polo shirts.

RVS

You’re totally going to need one of these tactical pens to go with your outfit. Yes, there is such a thing. ;)

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:45:42pm

Good evening.

Trump losing Manhattan is priceless.

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darthstar  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:45:53pm

re: #292 teleskiguy

I appreciate your dogged support for Bernie without devolving into a Berniestan asshole. You’re a great sport, buddy!

I still like him and his policies better. I just don’t see the point in trashing Hillary. Trashing some of her supporters who are insufferable pricks online? Yeah, I’ll probably keep doing that for a bit, but only to teach them a lesson in sportsmanship.

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Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:45:59pm

At 80%, Clinton is up 15.2%.

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darthstar  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:46:21pm

re: #298 darthstar

I still like him and his policies better. I just don’t see the point in trashing Hillary. Trashing some of her supporters who are insufferable pricks online? Yeah, I’ll probably keep doing that for a bit, but only to teach them a lesson in sportsmanship.

But that has more to do with people being pricks than it does with Hillary.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:46:40pm

There will be talk of “holding one’s nose” to vote for Hillary.

I don’t really have reservations about it. I’m voting for her and I think she’ll make a good president. Now, if Democrats can get some more seats down ticket…

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:48:06pm

re: #184 klys (maker of Silmarils)

When you’re ready for that sort of stuff, I have a scotch store I could recommend…

Yum…scotch!

I could do well with some Glenfiddich 18 year old. Mmmmm…one small ice cube and a jigger and a half.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:48:35pm

re: #301 teleskiguy

Let’s not forget the state houses. A breakdown of governors:

Democratic (18) Republican (31) Independent (1)

Democrats have a lot of work to do.

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darthstar  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:48:53pm

re: #301 teleskiguy

There will be talk of “holding one’s nose” to vote for Hillary.

I don’t really have reservations about it. I’m voting for her and I think she’ll make a good president. Now, if Democrats can get some more seats down ticket…

Down ticket Dems need to fight for themselves. Hillary, Bernie, Obama…none of them can win their races for them. The sooner they realize it the better.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:49:14pm

re: #295 Belafon

cnn.com

Of the 126,000 Democratic voters taken off from the rolls in Brooklyn, Ryan said 12,000 had moved out of borough, while 44,000 more had been placed in an inactive file after mailings to their homes bounced back. An additional 70,000 were already inactive and, having failed to vote in two successive federal elections or respond to cancel notices, were removed

Yeah. They need to do their research.

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Jay C  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:50:01pm

Jeff Weaver is currently on MSNBC trying to spin NY as a near-irrelevance, going on and on about “all those states”. Bernie is going to win, and “sweep up” tons of delegates, etc. And: no surprise, harping on”Independents”, and “electability” .

Whistling past the graveyard, IMO …..

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:50:14pm

re: #304 darthstar

Down ticket Dems need to fight for themselves. Hillary, Bernie, Obama…none of them can win their races for them. The sooner they realize it the better.

They’ll need money to fight for themselves, and it’s clear that Hillary has been better than Bernie in fundraising for those down ticket races.

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ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:52:22pm

re: #194 thedopefishlives

For normal evening drinking, though, I’ve found that bourbons have a permanent place in my heart. Reasonably cheap, just the right amount of bite, and go well with a Coke if I feel like mixing.

My one friend buys differing brands of real ginger ale at Anderson’s here in Ohio. He mixes that with bourbons and they are nice and spicy, a touch sweet and accent the bourbon. Real fine. And he makes ‘em strong.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:52:35pm

That’s a lot of fossil fuels in and around the most populated areas.

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Mattand  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:53:23pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon

Tweety Matthews quoting Ayn Rand…Time to switch the channel…

FTFY

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:53:31pm

re: #302 ObserverArt

Yum…scotch!

I could do well with some Glenfiddich 18 year old. Mmmmm…one small ice cube and a jigger and a half.

I almost bought some Glenfiddich 12 when I was passing through Hong Kong’s duty free shops onto the mainland. Skipped it, because I didn’t want to lug the bottle another eight hours to my home. Now I regret my laziness.

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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:54:55pm

William Shakespeare has been dead for 400 years. Where does the time go?!?

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b.d.  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:55:20pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:55:43pm

Yeah, us liberals are all about that. Nice soundbyte brah!

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calochortus  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:56:25pm

OT, but I’m certainly a cheap drunk. One glass of wine (fairly high alcohol content, but it’s wine, for heaven’s sake, not spirits) and I certainly wouldn’t want to be driving. I’m kinda tired which doesn’t help, but really…

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Lidane  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:56:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:56:26pm

re: #312 teleskiguy

William Shakespeare has been dead for 400 years. Where does the time go?!?

Feels like just yesterday old Bill and I were taking bets on which bear would win the bear baiting match at the Globe. I’m still pissed that he didn’t listen to my suggestion to name Romeo and Juliet, Dick and Jane. That would have been a much better name.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:57:03pm

re: #313 b.d.

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Because the math doesn’t work. Unless you force the SDs to go against the will of the voters.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:57:16pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

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Yeah, us liberals are all about that. Nice soundbyte brah!

Sorry, Jesse. I’ve already been informed that I’m not allowed to self-identify as a liberal.

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freetoken  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:58:12pm

Kasich may end up with 4 delegates by the end of the night.

Is this what they mean by “participation award”?

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:58:34pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

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Yeah, us liberals are all about that. Nice soundbyte brah!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:58:40pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

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Yeah, us liberals are all about that. Nice soundbyte brah!

What a smug insufferable dick. Must be nice.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 7:59:21pm

re: #320 freetoken

Kasich may end up with 4 delegates by the end of the night.

Is this what they mean by “participation award”?

Kasich is the new Rubio. And goddamn this would be so much better if Rubio’s last name was Negro.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:00:03pm

re: #320 freetoken

Kasich may end up with 4 delegates by the end of the night.

Is this what they mean by “participation award”?

Nah, that means RBS wins $20.

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Great White Snark  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:00:14pm

re: #296 CuriousLurker

You’re totally going to need one of these tactical pens to go with your outfit. Yes, there is such a thing. ;)

Heh, I had missed that.

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Tigger2  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:00:23pm

Still holding a good lead.

Democratic Primary

Clinton has won New York.
CANDIDATES VOTE PCT. DELEGATES
Hillary Clinton
869,520 57.3%
104
Bernie Sanders 647,479 42.7
85
1,516,999 votes, 85% reporting (12,797 of 15,067 precincts)

327
Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:00:36pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

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Yeah, us liberals are all about that. Nice soundbyte brah!

Sigh.
1 Money is not always the root of all evil.
2 The problem with single payer is how the hell are you going to get it with this Congress and country as it is?
3 I want everyone who can vote to vote.

328
Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:00:41pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

329
Mattand  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:00:47pm

re: #274 BeachDem

I agree (of course). The clash of their personalities would create a dumpster fire that could be seen from space. Everyone knows Trump is insufferable, but you and I know Kasich is just as big an egomaniac.

You and Observer Art have been really great instructors as to what Kasich is really about. I knew nothing of the guy until he decided to join Krazy Klown Kar 2016. Both your commentaries have been insightful.

Given the state of perpetual dickishness my cuddly Governor Christie constantly swathes himself in, I kinda feel a camaraderie with you two, as only people whose states are run by rage-addled Republicans truly understand.

330
Nyet  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:02:27pm

re: #298 darthstar

OK then, hoping not to see stuff like

again then.

331
goddamnedfrank  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:02:57pm
332
Testy Toad T  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:03:11pm

I swear to god, I want to pour New York’s closed primary into a dog dish and literally rub some folks’ nose in it.

You were too good for the club, and then you wanted to tell the club how the club should be run, and then the club said “sorry, you could have been in the club, wouldn’t have cost you a dime, but you decided not” so we’re gonna pick our own rules for the club, and then you are sad.

You don’t even realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?

333
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:03:19pm

re: #329 Mattand

You and Observer Art have been really great instructors as to what Kasich is really about. I knew nothing of the guy until he decided to join Krazy Klown Kar 2016. Both your commentaries have been insightful.

Given the state of perpetual dickishness my cuddly Governor Christie constantly swathes himself in, I kinda feel a camaraderie with you two, as only people whose states are run by rage-addled Republicans truly understand.

I doubly feel for you guys because Kasich and Christie are touted as “moderates” and “reasonable Republicans” when we can see that they are neither moderate nor reasonable but in fact two dickheads. I mean it’s one thing if it’s a Republican who everyone knows is a right wing dick but we first had the narrative of Christie the moderate reasonable one and now Kasich has taken that mantle and even though Kasich is a sexist, homophobic old Gingrich following prick.

334
BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:04:01pm

re: #295 Belafon

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Hate to tell the guy that wouldn’t have helped.

And what makes him think that, even if his number is correct, they would have all been Bernie voters? Did the voter registration cards have unicorns on them?

335
Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:04:10pm

GOD DAMMIT.
Cat threw up.
Sigh..

336
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:04:35pm

re: #332 Testy Toad T

I swear to god, I want to pour New York’s closed primary into a dog dish and literally rub some folks’ nose in it.

You were too good for the club, and then you wanted to tell the club how the club should be run, and then the club said “sorry, you could have been in the club, wouldn’t have cost you a dime, but you decided not” so we’re gonna pick our own rules for the club, and then you are sad.

You don’t even realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?

Some of them are proving why the closed primary exists by threatening to write Bernie in or vote Stein. Funny, how I never see that childish threat from Clinton supporters when Sanders wins.

337
calochortus  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:06:02pm

re: #335 Not a Sparkly Vampire

GOD DAMMIT.
Cat threw up.
Sigh..

Condolences.

338
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:06:13pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Some of them are proving why the closed primary exists by threatening to write Bernie in or vote Stein. Funny, how I never see that childish threat from Clinton supporters when Sanders wins.

I’m sure there’s some idiots out there. I remember the PUMAs.

That being said, I think the same thing of any Clinton supporter pulling that kind of bullshit as I would a Sanders’ supporter.

339
Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:06:15pm

She totally did that on purpose.
Walked into my office, barfed, left.

340
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:06:18pm

I feel like telling all the “progressives” acting like children over Bernie’s loss tonight that they don’t deserve a country that fosters their values because they’d rather sell the rest of us down the river because they didn’t get their purity pony.

341
retired cynic  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:06:25pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

There are more of us with a**hole-ish R govs around, you know. We haven’t been there very long (Rauner), but he is working at making up for lost time.

342
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:06:37pm

re: #339 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Have you been away recently?

343
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:06:50pm

re: #338 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m sure there’s some idiots out there. I remember the PUMAs.

That being said, I think the same thing of any Clinton supporter pulling that kind of bullshit as I would a Sanders’ supporter.

No doubt. It sucks no matter who does it.

344
Great White Snark  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:07:02pm

re: #332 Testy Toad T

Posers and flouncers. Real Indys® don’t have that angst. Why care about the party you left for cause? Broke up but still obsessively watching, er stalking?

345
retired cynic  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:07:22pm

re: #339 Not a Sparkly Vampire

She totally did that on purpose.
Walked into my office, barfed, left.

Eats, shoots and leaves

346
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:07:25pm

re: #341 retired cynic

There are more of us with a**hole-ish R govs around, you know. We haven’t been there very long (Rauner), but he is working at making up for lost time.

Rauner got on my shit list when he cut services to autistic people on world autism day. And of course, his biggest fan here defended it.

347
MsJ  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:07:56pm

re: #315 calochortus

OT, but I’m certainly a cheap drunk. One glass of wine (fairly high alcohol content, but it’s wine, for heaven’s sake, not spirits) and I certainly wouldn’t want to be driving. I’m kinda tired which doesn’t help, but really…

I can drink four or five spirit drinks and be fine. One glass of red wine and I’m under the table, drunk off my ass.

I drink almost never but vodka (pretty much the only thing I ever drink) never does anything to me, wine, OTOH, blasts me into orbit.

348
darthstar  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:08:26pm

re: #330 Nyet

OK then, hoping not to see stuff like

[Embedded content]

then.

Oliver Willis was playing the “What if Hillary did that? Imagine the global outrage!” card - which is making her out to be a victim before the fact - or in this case INSTEAD of the fact. I have no patience for people who want to play games by implying she’s going to be a victim of sexism/ageism/anti-Clinton-ism when the story had nothing fucking to do with her.

So I called him on it.

349
BeachDem  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:08:38pm

re: #297 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Good evening.

Trump losing Manhattan is priceless.

ONLY Hillary can sing along with Ella that she (took) Manhattan, the Bronx and Staten Island too:

Ella Fitzgerald: Manhattan (1965)

350
BlueSpotinAL  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:08:42pm

re: #301 teleskiguy

There will be talk of “holding one’s nose” to vote for Hillary.

I don’t really have reservations about it. I’m voting for her and I think she’ll make a good president. Now, if Democrats can get some more seats down ticket…

I won’t be holding my nose, given the overpowering stench from the other side of the ballot.

351
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:08:52pm

That moment where we’re sitting in the office and the cat turns on the music with his butt.

And then the Star Wars theme starts blasting out of the speakers.

352
retired cynic  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:09:04pm

re: #346 HappyWarrior

He got on my shit list when he got elected. Quinn wasn’t the brightest star in the firmament, but at least he wasn’t actively trying to gut the state.

353
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:09:08pm

Oh and “progressives” who worship FDR and think he was the best thing ever to happen to progressivism and liberalism. The man worked with segregationists.Not merely segregationists but people thought lynching should be legal. So shut the hell up about having to work with pro-Wall Street Democrats. There’s worse things that being okay with Wall Street like you know homophobia. As much as I dislike a lot of things that go on in corporate America, corporate America does seem even if only for monetary motivations see that homophobia sucks.

354
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:09:45pm

re: #352 retired cynic

He got on my shit list when he got elected. Quinn wasn’t the brightest star in the firmament, but at least he wasn’t actively trying to gut the state.

Sucks that you guys elected him. Quinn seemed like a good guy.

355
MsJ  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:09:47pm

re: #321 No Country For Old Haters

356
teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:10:26pm
357
Testy Toad T  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:10:30pm

Mad props to folks like darthstar who supported the candidate they thought was better until they came to the rational, reasoned, thoughtful conclusion that there was no longer any purpose in backing them. We’ve all been there. I never got to cast that vote for Dean in the general, either.

And those Sanders backers who are rather less magnanimous and are mumbling and grumbling right now because they feel like they need to chase the word “Clinton” with soap, we’ll see you in a few months. No hard feelings.

358
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:11:33pm

re: #347 MsJ

I can drink four or five spirit drinks and be fine. One glass of red wine and I’m under the table, drunk off my ass.

I drink almost never but vodka (pretty much the only thing I ever drink) never does anything to me, wine, OTOH, blasts me into orbit.

Probably has to do with rate of intake. Do you sip the vodka slowly, but drink the wine in larger gulps?

359
retired cynic  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:11:41pm

re: #354 HappyWarrior

Sucks that you guys elected him. Quinn seemed like a good guy.

Frankly, he wasn’t great, but gee whiz golly wow, I could see Rauner coming as a disaster way off in the distance.

360
Testy Toad T  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:11:58pm

Boom goes the dynamite?

361
teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:13:29pm

re: #360 Testy Toad T

362
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:13:36pm

re: #359 retired cynic

Frankly, he wasn’t great, but gee whiz golly wow, I could see Rauner coming as a disaster way off in the distance.

Hopefully you guys find someone good next time.

363
Great White Snark  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:13:48pm

re: #357 Testy Toad T

Todays admonishment for Bernie fanatics. Be as mad as ya want for losing, but don’t up and act like angry republicans.

364
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:14:41pm

re: #360 Testy Toad T

Boom goes the dynamite?

[Embedded content]

And then what Tad? I mean I guess I expect him to say something like this but those states aren’t going to be good to Bernie at all. They may in fact be even worse in say MD which has quite a sizable African-American bloc.

365
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:15:02pm

re: #363 Great White Snark

Todays admonishment for Bernie fanatics. Be as mad as ya want for losing, but don’t up and act like angry republicans.

Exactly, perspective.

366
Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:15:40pm

re: #365 HappyWarrior

Exactly, perspective.

And a half cup of mango sorbet.

367
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:15:50pm

re: #363 Great White Snark

Todays admonishment for Bernie fanatics. Be as mad as ya want for losing, but don’t up and act like angry republicans.

But if you want to act like angry republicans, can we try mimicking the showing up to vote in midterms part?

368
Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:15:55pm

92% and Clinton went back up to 15% from 14.6%. They now have her winning Buffalo.

369
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:15:57pm

re: #366 Feline Fearless Leader

And a half cup of mango sorbet.

I could go for that right now.

370
teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:16:21pm

Not very many Republicans in Manhattan.

371
MsJ  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:16:26pm

re: #358 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Probably has to do with rate of intake. Do you sip the vodka slowly, but drink the wine in larger gulps?

Nope. I’m not a big drinker so I always sip unless it’s a chocolate martini. Then all bets are off.

372
Kragar  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:16:45pm
373
GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:17:35pm

re: #352 retired cynic

He got on my shit list when he got elected. Quinn wasn’t the brightest star in the firmament, but at least he wasn’t actively trying to gut the state.

Rauner got lucky though. The way he’s (not) running things is pathetic, but he can just blame it on everyone else.

I do think Mike Madigan needs to go, however.

374
Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:17:42pm

The only large city county she’s isn’t winning is the one containing Albany. She has Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, and all those around NYC.

375
Testy Toad T  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:17:53pm

re: #364 HappyWarrior

And then what Tad? I mean I guess I expect him to say something like this but those states aren’t going to be good to Bernie at all. They may in fact be even worse in say MD which has quite a sizable African-American bloc.

Were I Sanders’ campaign manager, if I were looking to shift back toward an issue-campaign (rather than a winning-campaign), with the intent to loop my candidate’s voters back behind the presumptive nominee, this is the sort of first step I’d take.

“We’ll play out the string and reassess” when you need more than anything to shake things up is the admission that you’re no longer seriously trying to contend.

376
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:18:03pm

re: #372 Kragar

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There are people I know who do that whenever a loss happens. If their candidate loses, it must be fraud. Exit polling is far from an exact science. You’d think these people would realize that by now and stop getting their hopes up but nope.

377
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:19:25pm

re: #360 Testy Toad T

Boom goes the dynamite?

[Embedded content]

Isn’t that a bit like Napoleon saying after Waterloo, “We’ll see how future battles go and then assess where we are.”?

378
Testy Toad T  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:20:11pm

And anybody who thinks Sanders’ campaign has some sort of obligation to fold up shop overnight is on bath salts. This is de rigueur. Don’t let your supporters instantly feel like they no longer matter.

379
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:20:29pm

Going for a walk to make step count for the day. Back later, Lizards. :)

380
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:20:38pm

re: #371 MsJ

Nope. I’m not a big drinker so I always sip unless it’s a chocolate martini. Then all bets are off.

Then I have no idea. ;-)

381
stpaulbear  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:21:11pm

re: #339 Not a Sparkly Vampire

She totally did that on purpose.
Walked into my office, barfed, left.

That was nice of her to do. At least she didn’t do it in a corner out of earshot.

There have been times when I hear my cat get ready to hurl and I try to put a newspaper or junk mail in front of her. She ends up running away and barfing in 3-4 places.

382
Great White Snark  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:21:11pm

Not at all sure that Klout has any relevance, but my Trump tweet picked up my score about a point and a half. 48.95

383
No Depression  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:21:17pm

re: #364 HappyWarrior

And then what Tad? I mean I guess I expect him to say something like this but those states aren’t going to be good to Bernie at all. They may in fact be even worse in say MD which has quite a sizable African-American bloc.

Maryland is coming up next week. I might have to take a break from Facebook…

384
ObserverArt  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:22:19pm

re: #329 Mattand

You and Observer Art have been really great instructors as to what Kasich is really about. I knew nothing of the guy until he decided to join Krazy Klown Kar 2016. Both your commentaries have been insightful.

Given the state of perpetual dickishness my cuddly Governor Christie constantly swathes himself in, I kinda feel a camaraderie with you two, as only people whose states are run by rage-addled Republicans truly understand.

Heh. Glad to help!

I don’t know if BeachDem was in Columbus at the time, but I and a business partner did some design work for a guy by the name of Jerry Hammond, First Black Columbus City Council President, who kicked around the idea of a run for mayor of Columbus. The Black women who worked as one of his campaign managers who we dealt with directly knew of Kasich and his early connections to Leslie Wexner (Limited, Victoria’s Secret, Bath & Bodyworks, Lane Bryant, etc., etc.) which led to some speculation about his early political ambitions. That was late 70s. Been following him ever since.

385
Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:22:39pm

re: #376 HappyWarrior

There are people I know who do that whenever a loss happens. If their candidate loses, it must be fraud. Exit polling is far from an exact science. You’d think these people would realize that by now and stop getting their hopes up but nope.

A lot of it is new active participant thinking. Politics is the closest thing some people have to an event of real consequence, and they get very emotionally invested. It can be tough to lose and accept that sometimes you lose.

386
GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:22:53pm

re: #377 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I thought Napoleon said “But my lips hurt real bad!”… Oh, wait. Wrong Napoleon.

387
teleskiguy  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:23:20pm

Already seeing a lot of BERNIE WUZ ROBBED SHILLARY RIGGED THE WHOLE THING excrement in my Facebook. Ignoring it for now, because these are my friends we’re talking about here. If they get more shrill and hyperbolic in the next week, blocking will take place.

388
Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:23:42pm

re: #377 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Isn’t that a bit like Napoleon saying after Waterloo, “We’ll see how future battles go and then assess where we are.”?

I already did this joke, but… “Weaver konnte nicht genügend Kräfte für einen Angriff massieren. Der Angriff Weavers ist nicht erfolgt.”

389
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:23:49pm

re: #383 No Depression

Maryland is coming up next week. I might have to take a break from Facebook…

I already feel like I need a break now. I’ve about had it with purer than thou progressives who think it’s all about them- bitch about a closed primary system and then show the reason why the closed primary system exists in the first place by talking about how they’ll write Bernie in or vote for Stein. Yeah, that’s the ticket guys and you wonder why the DNC doesn’t take you seriously. You could be adults and try to work to implement change within the Democratic Party but it’s easier to bitch about the DLC, centrists, and things that go bump in the night.

390
MsJ  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:24:14pm

re: #380 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Then I have no idea. ;-)

Damn. I’m jonesing for a chocolate martini now.

391
Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:24:23pm

re: #387 teleskiguy

Already seeing a lot of BERNIE WUZ ROBBED SHILLARY RIGGED THE WHOLE THING excrement in my Facebook. Ignoring it for now, because these are my friends we’re talking about here. If they get more shrill and hyperbolic in the next week, blocking will take place.

Monsanto!

392
Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:24:30pm

re: #378 Testy Toad T

And anybody who thinks Sanders’ campaign has some sort of obligation to fold up shop overnight is on bath salts. This is de rigueur. Don’t let your supporters instantly feel like they no longer matter.

Exactly.

393
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:24:34pm

re: #385 Belafon

A lot of it is new active participant thinking. Politics is the closest thing some people have to an event of real consequence, and they get very emotionally invested. It can be tough to lose and accept that sometimes you lose.

Yeah I know the feeling. I was really sad when Kerry lost in 2004. I don’t get emotional over victories and defeats anymore. I do get frustrated with how pig headed some people are though.

394
Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:25:27pm
And the dogwood continues to bloom

G’night folks! Stay scaly and don’t drink all the gin!

395
Brian J.  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:26:04pm

re: #391 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Monsanto!

“Your Monsanto pension check, Mr. Devine.”

“Oh, thank you very much… Everybody out at once!”

396
mr.fusion  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:26:22pm

Marco Rubio still has more delegates than John Kasich

397
Majacita  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:26:26pm

Thanks again for a great evening lurking and occasionally commenting. I come here when I get worried that I’m some sort of outlier. I’m a ex Republican living in a red state, but married to a Bernie Sanders like college professor. There’s an acceptance of diverse opinions here most of the time that I really appreciate. Good night.

398
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:26:28pm

re: #387 teleskiguy

Already seeing a lot of BERNIE WUZ ROBBED SHILLARY RIGGED THE WHOLE THING excrement in my Facebook. Ignoring it for now, because these are my friends we’re talking about here. If they get more shrill and hyperbolic in the next week, blocking will take place.

A lot of it is coming from friends of mine too. I mean damn it’s sad man because you know what? I know many of these people have their hearts in the right place. They want policies that will make us a better country and goddamnit I appreciate that but some of them I just want to smack for being ideologically self-centered.

399
GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:26:31pm

Bernie taking the day off in VT tomorrow to concentrate on Pennsylvania. Really. This is his plan.

400
Jenner7  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:26:40pm

re: #166 Lidane

Yup. Heard this kind of bullshit all night on CNN and MSNBC.

401
Testy Toad T  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:26:49pm

re: #385 Belafon

A lot of it is new active participant thinking. Politics is the closest thing some people have to an event of real consequence, and they get very emotionally invested. It can be tough to lose and accept that sometimes you lose.

Vented spleen is a healthy part of the party process. I honestly don’t think the GOP would be trumploding right now if supporters of Huckabee, Santorum, etc. hadn’t felt so taken for granted for the last thirty years.

They have a lot of problems with you people, and now you’re gonna hear about it!

402
Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:27:32pm
Monsanto

I love using that now.
It really riles up the CTs.

403
De Kolta Chair  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:30:52pm

I voted, for the first in my life, by absentee ballot in the NY primary this year. My wife and I are visiting her family in Baltimore ‘burbs, where her brother and sister voted early this morning. There are so many local, state, and of course national primaries in play in MD, that NY’s primary looked boring by comparison.

Btw, my neighborhood went for Clinton (77.4% or 284 votes) and Kasich (55.1% or 22 votes).

404
GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:31:03pm

For my fellow lizards with Bernie friends who are latching on to that 125,000 voters thing, this is the explanation, and you should clue them in.

littlegreenfootballs.com

405
Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:31:39pm

Bed time.
Good night.

406
Belafon  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:34:32pm

re: #404 GlutenFreeJesus

For my fellow lizards with Bernie friends who are latching on to that 125,000 voters thing, this is the explanation, and you should clue them in.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Thanks. Someone should copy the text to the next thread.

407
FormerDirtDart  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:34:33pm

re: #370 teleskiguy

Not very many Republicans in Manhattan.

[Embedded content]

Maybe if Trump’s family members had bothered to register as Republicans…

408
HappyWarrior  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:35:01pm

re: #403 De Kolta Chair

I voted, for the first in my life, by absentee ballot in the NY primary this year. My wife and I are visiting her family in Baltimore ‘burbs, where her brother and sister voted early this morning. There are so many local, state, primaries in play, that NY’s primary looked boring by comparison.

Btw, my neighborhood went for Clinton (77.4% or 284 votes) and Kasich (55.1% or 22 votes).

I wish our voters would show the same excitement for local races that the TP whackjobs do. I hate the bigoted bastards but they understand the value of local politics far better than the left does.

409
blueraven  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:41:39pm

re: #399 GlutenFreeJesus

Bernie taking the day off in VT tomorrow to concentrate on Pennsylvania. Really. This is his plan.

I think a day off might be good for Bernie. I cant imagine how grueling this has been for him, physically and emotionally. He needs to step back.

Meanwhile…

410
Jay C  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:44:57pm

re: #404 GlutenFreeJesus

For my fellow lizards with Bernie friends who are latching on to that 125,000 voters thing, this is the explanation, and you should clue them in.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Not to mention the fact that even if EVERY SINGLE ONE of those “120,000 missing voters” had voted for Bernie Sanders 100% - he still would have lost.

411
calochortus  Apr 19, 2016 • 8:51:25pm

I think I’ll call it a night. Hasta Mañana, Lizards.

412
zerosumgame0005  Apr 20, 2016 • 5:05:30am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

They just said this on MSNBC.

on another $6,000/hr private jet on his contributors dime?


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