Were Philadelphia Voting Machines Rigged to Prevent Voting for Bernie Sanders? Nope.

Fake report of voter suppression broadcast by NY Daily News writer
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What a Philadelphia voting machine looks like when it’s turned on

New York Daily News writer Shaun King has turned his Twitter account into a non-stop over the top advocacy platform for Bernie Sanders, and a couple of days ago he tweeted the following video, with the description: “Philly voters saying polls won’t let them vote for Bernie.”

Well, I had seen pictures of these types of voting machines before and knew right away that the machine shown in that video was simply not turned on — because there are little red lights next to the names of the candidates when the machine is powered up. The picture at the top of this article is a screen capture from this video, showing how these machines look when operational.

I wasn’t the only person to realize this, of course; lots of folks have experience with these machines, and many people replied to King to let him know the machine was turned off. Including yours truly:

However, Shaun King simply ignored all these comments and to this date has not retracted or corrected that tweet; he just left it there, implying there was a conspiracy to commit voter fraud for Hillary Clinton’s benefit.

And now the Philadelphia version of the Metro daily paper has a story about this, confirming that yes, the machine was turned off; and not only that, the Sanders supporter who posted the video tweeted by Shaun King — with the comment, “Voter suppression in my own fcking neighborhood” —knew this when he posted his video to Instagram.

Voter machine rejecting Bernie was actually just not turned on.

“Here it is folks. Voter supression in my own f——— neighborhood,” Brooks Bell wrote when he posted the video on Instagram. “Hundreds of people at my location today were told that they couldn’t vote for Bernie.”

However, the machine in the video was not turned on, said City Commissioner Al Schmidt.

“It is a video of someone trying to vote on a machine that isn’t on,” Schmidt said. “If you look at the video, to the left of where the candidates names are, there should be a red light on, indicating that the voter can select one of those candidates. … We looked at it. It’s immediately apparent that the voting machine was off.”

Bell confirmed that, in fact, the voting machine just needed to be reset, and he was able to vote for Sanders later on. But he said problems like this may have obstructed other voters.

“We have computers in our pockets. We’re voting on these rinky-dink machines that have to work two times a year. … They shouldn’t be fraudulent, they shouldn’t be faulty,” he said. “I don’t want to feed into some crazy conspiracy theory about voter suppression, but what I experienced, I just don’t   understand. … There has to be a way to make this an easier process.”

That’s right, folks — he deliberately misled people into thinking the machine had been rigged even though he knew it just needed to be reset, and then Shaun King amplified this claim to his 244,000 Twitter followers, who retweeted it more than 4,300 times. And he still hasn’t corrected it even though he now knows the truth.

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220 comments
1
Chez Ko Pe  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:40:02am
“I don’t want to feed into some crazy conspiracy theory about voter suppression, but

WOMP WOMMMMP

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:41:00am

Another reason that Twitter is really only useful for finding out what people had for lunch and who was eating it with them…

3
Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:41:21am

I will be glad when this is over and we can focus on beating the GOP.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:41:31am

Conspiracy Theories are boring.

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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:42:50am

This only makes sense in a world where you enter the polling location and there are separate machines for Clinton and Sanders.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:43:15am

And IIRC, the Metro story initially came out that very same day (I know because I posted a link to it that night).

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:43:24am

I just checked and the guy who posted that video went back and edited the description to add this:

Demand that your machines be reset until you see a red light for Bernie.

This line was not there yesterday.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:43:31am

Turned off machines are not letting people vote for Bernie.

Outrage factor 11ty.

Go away BernieBros.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:45:01am

They don’t give a crap that you wouldn’t be allowed to vote for Clinton though…

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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:45:06am

AND…..he would have realized the machine was off if he tried casting a down ballot vote and had the same result. But, he’s feeling the Bern so….

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:45:43am

re: #8 b.d.

Turned off machines are not letting people vote for Bernie.

Outrage factor 11ty.

Go away BernieBros.

They aren’t letting voters vote for Clinton neither. Guess that hadn’t occurred to them.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:46:13am

Now far be it from me to question Mr. King’s mental acuity, but if I were rigging an election with electronic voting machines, I would not present the user with an obvious signal that their Bernvote had not been counted. I would display that everything had worked correctly, then just throw their vote away.

But I guess that’s just me.

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:46:16am

re: #9 b.d.

They don’t give a crap that you wouldn’t be allowed to vote for Clinton though…

42 seconds!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:47:07am

We use the same (or similar) machines at my polling place here in the backwoods.
During the primary, there is a switch in the back that has to be flipped (or something) depending on if the voter is R or D, and then another button (or something) to activate the machine.

I knew the original video was bullshit the moment I saw it.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:47:21am

re: #11 allegro

They aren’t letting voters vote for Clinton neither. Guess that hadn’t occurred to them.

WHAT KIND OF NEOCON MONSTER WOULD VOTE FOR HILLARY!?!?

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:49:30am

Even the Duke brothers knew to turn the machines back on. /

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:49:35am
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:49:59am

I, for one, will certainly be glad to see Hillary Clinton replace the hesitant Obama, since she will waste little time in finally getting the FEMA camps up and running. Keep in mind that this plan apparently originated during Bill’s term, only to be sidelined by their successors. As a logistical matter, I am wondering if we should have separate compounds for Bern-outs and wingnuts or just let them slug it out for extra bread scraps and gruel rations.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:50:03am

My favorite thing about conspiracy theories is that believers usually do not engage in any sort of thought experiment about how they would structure the conspiracy if they were in charge of carrying it out, and then compare the thing they believe with the system they’d design.

I dunno, maybe this just pidgeonholes me as a weird engineer.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:51:09am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

We use the same (or similar) machines at my polling place here in the backwoods.
During the primary, there is a switch in the back that has to be flipped (or something) depending on if the voter is R or D, and then another button (or something) to activate the machine.

I knew the original video was bullshit the moment I saw it.

Same here in near east side of Columbus.

Glad to see Charles going after Shaun King a bit. As I said last night he needs to be knocked down a peg or two. Getting a bit too full of himself. Not retracting is a good indicator of that. He is young. He can still learn and maybe it will do him some good.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:52:02am

re: #19 Testy Toad T

My favorite thing about conspiracy theories is that believers usually do not engage in any sort of thought experiment about how they would structure the conspiracy if they were in charge of carrying it out, and then comparing the thing they believe with the system they’d design.

I dunno, maybe this just pidgeonholes me as a weird engineer.

That’s always been my favorite part of CTs too. Take Brooklyn being “rigged” against Bernie. Clinton beat Bernie in Brooklyn by a bigger margin than she did statewide. I swear, is it so hard to admit that you’ve been beat?

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:52:35am

It is sad that “did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in” is a non-snarky question to BernieBros.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:52:56am

I got an angry Tweet this morning from a Bernie Bro HURR HURR I USED TO FOLLOW ALL UR TWEETS BUT NOW U R A HILLBOT!!! WHAT HAPPENED 2 U!!!1??

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:53:36am

re: #19 Testy Toad T

I dunno, maybe this just pidgeonholes me as a weird engineer.

Is there some redundancy in there?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:54:33am

I hear the Bernie supporters in my FB feed complain about how terrible the Clinton supporters are to them but most of the Clinton supporters I have seen seem more interested in listening than the Bernie ones do. I’ve stayed out of it. I go out of my way to do most of my talking about politics here because you guys are probably the most reasonable bunch on the internet when it comes to politics.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:55:33am

re: #25 HappyWarrior

I hear the Bernie supporters in my FB feed complain about how terrible the Clinton supporters are to them but most of the Clinton supporters I have seen seem more interested in listening than the Bernie ones do. I’ve stayed out of it. I go out of my way to do most of my talking about politics here because you guys are probably the most reasonable bunch on the internet when it comes to politics.

Yes, on Facebook with friends and relatives I mostly just post kids photos and cute animal videos.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:55:58am

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

I, for one, will certainly be glad to see Hillary Clinton replace the hesitant Obama, since she will waste little time in finally getting the FEMA camps up and running. Keep in mind that this plan apparently originated during Bill’s term, only to be sidelined by their successors. As a logistical matter, I am wondering if we should have separate compounds for Bern-outs and wingnuts or just let them slug it out for extra bread scraps and gruel rations.

Is that you in your avie? Cute kid!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:58:41am

Have you guys seen the latest though? They’re saying “Well FDR won a contested convention.” So okay, you’ve been railing against delegates and the national party committee for months and you want them to discount the fact that Clinton has beaten Bernie in popular votes, you want them to discount that Clinton by far has beaten Bernie among Democrats, why so you can Bernie nominated against the will of the people of his party. I don’t care that Bernie polls better in a general election. The Republicans haven’t used any attacks on him at all so frankly it’s irrelevant to me much like Kasich bragging that he beats Clinton in GE polls. Bernie time and time has had the chance to beat Clinton in the Democratic primaries and he’s not winning. Oh he wins some. This isn’t a total wipe out but Clinton is definitely winning and I’m sorry that reality chaps Bernie’s supporters asses that much. Hell as said downstairs, I think even Bernie knows he’s not long since he’s started laying campaign workers off. If you want to continue to donating to a campaign clearly in its death throes by all means but I think you’re making a mistake.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:59:21am

re: #26 Big Beautiful Door

Yes, on Facebook with friends and relatives I mostly just post kids photos and cute animal videos.

Yeah stuff like that. People who make their FB feed 100% politics all the time bug me and I say that about people who I agree with more often than too.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:01:02pm

re: #8 b.d.

Turned off machines are not letting people vote for Bernie.

Outrage factor 11ty.

Go away BernieBros.

Well, I’m turned off.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:01:04pm

I’ll put it bluntly but Bernie’s campaigning wasn’t that impressive. I think so many Sanders supporters fell in love with his legislative record and his platform that they overlooked that the guy doesn’t have presidential candidate gravitas.

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:01:56pm

re: #24 wrenchwench

Is there some redundancy in there?

He’s an engineer, that’s what they do!
/

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Jack Burton  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:02:07pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

Yeah stuff like that. People who make their FB feed 100% politics all the time bug me and I say that about people who I agree with more often than too.

To me talking politics on Facebook is like talking Politics at a party or bar. Don’t do it, and if you do, don’t get bent when I unfollow or unfriend you. There’s a reason that politics and religion weren’t discussed in social settings.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:02:27pm
We have computers in our pockets. We’re voting on these rinky-dink machines that have to work two times a year. … They shouldn’t be fraudulent, they shouldn’t be faulty,” he said. “I don’t want to feed into some crazy conspiracy theory about voter suppression, but what I experienced, I just don’t understand. … There has to be a way to make this an easier process.”

Yes, because I (we) have never, ever, never once had to reboot my (our) iPhone or BB, computer, iPad, xbox, or just about any other device that requires alternating current to function.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:02:43pm

They shot the guy in the panda suit.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:03:02pm

bbl

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Chez Ko Pe  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:04:28pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Not even that. The most vociferous Bernie Babies don’t seem to have a clue about his record; they just know he’s Anybody But Clinton. Some of them think he’s been a Democrat all his life.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:05:31pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Have you guys seen the latest though? They’re saying “Well FDR won a contested convention.”

Ah, so you only need to draw a comparison between your Saint Bernie and, oh, the most productive and powerful progressive politician this country has ever known.

I’m glad y’all’re keeping things in perspective.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:06:01pm

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST WINGNUT BULLSHIT YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY==>
DUMB DUMB MILLENNIAL LITTLE GIRL EXPLAINS WHY TRUMP IS BETTER FOR TEH WIMMENS THEN HILLERYS!!!!!!

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:06:05pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

They shot the guy in the panda suit.

Did they shoot the black part or the white part?

(Off color…I know…but damn lately…)

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Jack Burton  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:06:21pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

I’ll put it bluntly but Bernie’s campaigning wasn’t that impressive. I think so many Sanders supporters fell in love with his legislative record and his platform that they overlooked that the guy doesn’t have presidential candidate gravitas.

Based on interviews he’s given, he also apparently isn’t remotely an expert on the one issue he talks about exclusively. He’s a one trick pony and that trick has the Dunning-Kruger Effect going on with him. That was the “You’ve failed me for the last time” moment for me.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:06:35pm

re: #37 Chez Ko Pe

Not even that. The most vociferous Bernie Babies don’t seem to have a clue about his record; they just know he’s Anybody But Clinton. Some of them think he’s been a Democrat all his life.

That wouldn’t surprise me. Really, he’s not a good candidate. Just because he’s right on a lot of issues doesn’t mean he ought to be in charge of the country. There’s lots of people that I know that make a good amount of sense but it doesn’t make them presidential material. The same is true with Bernie except he has reached higehr office.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:07:22pm

re: #17 Kragar

“A lot can happen between now and November”
Alien Invasion
Zombie Outbreak
The Hellgate Opening
Spontaneous Combustion plague

It would not take anything that far-fetched…

a serious terror attack, especially one that is traced to (or blamed on) Muslim immigrants would set off a wave of hatred, revenge and indignation that could sweep Trump into office.

Especially if such an attack or some other serious natural and/or man-made catastrophe made it necessary for the government to declare martial law and call out troops to restore order and maintain vital services.
We could wind up see hordes of Bundyite militiamen, convinced this was all just cover for a Government coup, out occupying government facilities and shooting at everything they didn’t like the look of.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:07:30pm

re: #39 The Vicious Babushka

5 words in and she’s already lying

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:07:32pm

re: #38 Testy Toad T

Ah, so you only need to draw a comparison between your Saint Bernie and, oh, the most productive and powerful progressive politician this country has ever known.

I’m glad y’all’re keeping things in perspective.

Yeah apples and porterhouse steak. I mean damn. There was just so much wrong with that when I saw it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:07:57pm

re: #19 Testy Toad T

My favorite thing about conspiracy theories is that believers usually do not engage in any sort of thought experiment about how they would structure the conspiracy if they were in charge of carrying it out, and then compare the thing they believe with the system they’d design.

I dunno, maybe this just pidgeonholes me as a weird engineer.

No, it pigeonholes you as someone capable of logical and rational thought.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:08:11pm

re: #39 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST WINGNUT BULLSHIT YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY==>
DUMB DUMB MILLENNIAL LITTLE GIRL EXPLAINS WHY TRUMP IS BETTER FOR TEH WIMMENS THEN HILLERYS!!!!!!

[Embedded content]

I swear every right wing woman hack looks the same.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:08:17pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

They shot the guy in the panda suit.

re: #40 ObserverArt

Did they shoot the black part or the white part?

(Off color…I know…but damn lately…)

They wouldn’t have shot him if he was a real panda.

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS RUN AMOK!

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:08:21pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Have you guys seen the latest though? They’re saying “Well FDR won a contested convention.” So okay, you’ve been railing against delegates and the national party committee for months and you want them to discount the fact that Clinton has beaten Bernie in popular votes, you want them to discount that Clinton by far has beaten Bernie among Democrats, why so you can Bernie nominated against the will of the people of his party. I don’t care that Bernie polls better in a general election. The Republicans haven’t used any attacks on him at all so frankly it’s irrelevant to me much like Kasich bragging that he beats Clinton in GE polls. Bernie time and time has had the chance to beat Clinton in the Democratic primaries and he’s not winning. Oh he wins some. This isn’t a total wipe out but Clinton is definitely winning and I’m sorry that reality chaps Bernie’s supporters asses that much. Hell as said downstairs, I think even Bernie knows he’s not long since he’s started laying campaign workers off. If you want to continue to donating to a campaign clearly in its death throes by all means but I think you’re making a mistake.

Anyone saying that is delusional. Clinton will have a majority of delegates on the first ballot so there will be no contested convention.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:09:03pm

re: #44 Kragar

5 words in and she’s already lying

I saw the picture and the “news” logo where she was spewing and decided against listening at all.

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petesh  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:09:05pm

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Another reason that Twitter is really only useful for finding out what people had for lunch and who was eating it with them…

Nobody eats MY lunch. Except maybe the dog.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:09:16pm

re: #39 The Vicious Babushka

I heard some on NPR this morning: one was young, the other in her 60s. ‘You can’t tell me to vote for a woman! I have free will! And I just don’t trust her.’

They couldn’t say why, just said that over and over. The young one said maybe she’d vote Trump, the older one said she would just not vote in the Presidential Race.

Two people without noses.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:09:17pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I swear every right wing woman hack looks the same.

SAVE TEH WHITE BLONDE THIN WOMENS FROM WHITE GENOCIDE!!!!! MAKE SURE THEY DON’T HAVE BLACK BOYFRIENDS!!!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:09:43pm

re: #49 Big Beautiful Door

Anyone saying that is delusional. Clinton will have a majority of delegates on the first ballot so there will be no contested convention.

Right.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:10:13pm

re: #52 retired cynic

I heard some on NPR this morning: one was young, the other in her 60s. ‘You can’t tell me to vote for a woman! I have free will! And I just don’t trust her.’

They couldn’t say why, just said that over and over. The young one said maybe she’d vote Trump, the older one said she would just not vote in the Presidential Race.

Two people without noses.

If it’s NPR they must be Bernie fans.

It’s getting harder and harder to tell the Berners from the Trumpsters.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:10:31pm

re: #52 retired cynic

I heard some on NPR this morning: one was young, the other in her 60s. ‘You can’t tell me to vote for a woman! I have free will! And I just don’t trust her.’

They couldn’t say why, just said that over and over. The young one said maybe she’d vote Trump, the older one said she would just not vote in the Presidential Race.

Two people without noses.

Vote for the guy who sees women as objects. Way to go.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:10:47pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

Yeah stuff like that. People who make their FB feed 100% politics all the time bug me and I say that about people who I agree with more often than too.

I have unfriended a few people over excessive FB political postings. There are political sites for tha. I do post something of a political nature on FB occasionally, usually with minimal or no comment, and do not get drawn into lengthy discussions.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:11:56pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

They grow them in vat farms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:12:54pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I swear every right wing woman hack looks the same.

She shore has a pretty mouth

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:13:09pm

re: #50 b.d.

I was going off of “Hey Hillary Clinton, I think”

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:13:37pm

re: #44 Kragar

5 words in and she’s already lying

Impressive resume until you actually read it:

Liz Wheeler is a 26 year old, young conservative hailing from the heart of the Midwest. During college, Liz served on the Board of Zoning Appeals for her hometown in Ohio (and was the youngest person in the city’s history to hold that position). At the same time, Liz co-authored a book with 13 other young Americans about being a millennial generation conservative. The book, titled, “Young, Conservative, and Why it’s Smart to be like Us” reached #2 on Amazon’s Kindle bestseller list in the “civics” category.

Liz has spoken to conservative groups and at GOP events about the role of government in our society and how to win the youth vote, and has been interviewed on several radio shows nationwide. In the past, Liz worked with military veterans seeking employment after their service. Liz also ran her own independent consulting business focused on digital advertising and social marketing. Liz is a graduate of Penn State University, with a bachelor’s degree in Political Science and a minor in Homeland Security.

oann.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:13:45pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:14:04pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

Vote for the guy who sees women as objects. Way to go.

I have determined that one reason there seem to be so many people with weird beliefs is just because there are so many people. Brains are like ecosystems for memes, and in a country with 300 million people almost any meme, no matter how bizarre, will find one or more brains to host it. And the internet has made it oh so easy for irrational memes to find new brains to infect.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:14:24pm

re: #39 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST WINGNUT BULLSHIT YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY==>
DUMB DUMB MILLENNIAL LITTLE GIRL EXPLAINS WHY TRUMP IS BETTER FOR TEH WIMMENS THEN HILLERYS!!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Hmmmm. OANN. Looked it up…part of Herring Networks. Further look to Wiki…and this.

One America News Network (abbreviated as OANN, commonly referred to as One America News (abbreviated as OAN)) is an American conservative cable news television channel that is owned by Oprah Winfrey. The network is headquartered in San Diego, California, and operates a news bureau in Washington, D.C.[1]

Oprah??? Whut?

Oh well…maybe she liked Obama because…and doesn’t like Hillary because…

Later, Gotta run out to the bank, etc.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:14:57pm

I’ve ended my vacation from freep monitoring and gone back to daily checks.

Today’s line at the Fever Swamp is that Biden’s visit to Iraq is part of a Soros/Obama effort to groom the VP to replace Clinton on the Democrat ticket when (not if) the latter is indicted.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:15:07pm

Re: Baltimore incident ongoing:

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Kilroy01  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:16:02pm

re: #66 lawhawk

Fetus? Did I hear that right?

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:16:10pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

I’ve ended my vacation from freep monitoring and gone back to daily checks.

Today’s line at the Fever Swamp is that Biden’s visit to Iraq is part of a Soros/Obama effort to groom the VP to replace Clinton on the Democrat ticket when (not if) the latter is indicted.

Always handy to find out what isn’t going to happen.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:16:39pm

em>re: #61 b.d.

Impressive resume until you actually read it:

oann.com

The sad thing is she’s probably actually a pretty intelligent young woman but she knows that’s the kind of shit that people who watch FNC love to see and hear. I mean take Megyn Kelly. Megyn’s isn’t a dumb woman. She’s a lawyer but she plays the role of right wing hack because the old farts who watch FNC get their stiffies up seeing a woman they fancy sound like Rush Limbaugh. It’s a form of political pornography for them to hear a woman speak against her interests like that and for a bunch of bigoted fat old men.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:17:29pm

re: #60 Kragar

I was going off of “Hey Hillary Clinton, I think”

Why does being a conservative make you look, at a minimum, 10 years older that you actually are?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:17:51pm

re: #64 ObserverArt

Hmmmm. OANN. Looked it up…part of Herring Networks. Further look to Wiki…and this.

Oprah??? Whut?

Oh well…maybe she liked Obama because…and doesn’t like Hillary because…

Later, Gotta run out to the bank, etc.

I seriously think someone edited that wiki page to say that. Oprah’s name isn’t even a link.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:19:19pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Ha. See you can see she’s confidence because she doesn’t feel the need to bluster like Donald does.

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Chez Ko Pe  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:19:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:20:00pm

re: #70 b.d.

Why does being a conservative make you look, at a minimum, 10 years older that you actually are?

[Embedded content]

Jesus Christ what a fucking idiot.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:20:04pm

New shoe drops on hoop crazy North Carolina. No more NCAA Tournament games!

slate.com

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:20:18pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:20:55pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

I seriously think someone edited that wiki page to say that. Oprah’s name isn’t even a link.

Could be…I just use Wiki for quickness. “Conservative” was the operative word.

Okay…out da door…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:20:58pm

re: #63 Big Beautiful Door

I have determined that one reason there seem to be so many people with weird beliefs is just because there are so many people. Brains are like ecosystems for memes, and in a country with 300 million people almost any meme, no matter how bizarre, will find one or more brains to host it. And the internet has made it oh so easy for irrational memes to find new brains to infect.

Educational standards are on the decline, and among the first things that got left by the wayside were teaching the scientific method, a critical and multi-source approach to information and general information on civics and history.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:21:06pm

re: #76 Kragar

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Man of the people right there.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:21:15pm

re: #76 Kragar

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Shocka!

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:21:18pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Jesus Christ what a fucking idiot.

Give her a break, she works for a “news” outfit that doesn’t pay her enough to buy sleeves.

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:21:26pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

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She can’t wait to go up against that loudmouth.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:21:43pm

re: #75 Big Beautiful Door

New shoe drops on hoop crazy North Carolina. No more NCAA Tournament games!

slate.com

You done fucked up McGrory.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:22:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:22:59pm

I just liked how she pretty much said no. Clinton’s put up with a lot of shit in her days. An egotistical billionaire with little self esteem is chump change for her.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:23:32pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:23:36pm

re: #27 ObserverArt

Is that you in your avie? Cute kid!

It is, and thank you.
On the back, it says “Thanksgiving ‘49” in my grandmother’s handwriting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:23:36pm

re: #75 Big Beautiful Door

New shoe drops on hoop crazy North Carolina. No more NCAA Tournament games!

slate.com

Basketball vs Fulfilling God’s Divine Will through legislation.

Wonder which one will prevail in the end?

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:23:52pm

re: #73 Chez Ko Pe

DEVELOPING: Man dressed in onesie enters Baltimore TV station; Car found on fire outside station

Oh Jesus Christ no, not a onesie!

WGAL sister station WBAL-TV 11 News is reporting that a man dressed in a onesie with a surgical mask and sunglasses covering his face entered the TV station’s front entrance.

The man tried to give employees a flash drive, saying something about what’s going on in the news and saying that he needs his video shown.

A security officer thought the situation was suspicious

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:23:58pm

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Educational standards are on the decline, and among the first things that got left by the wayside were teaching the scientific method, a critical and multi-source approach to information and general information on civics and history.

This realization I had made me conclude that every belief, regardless of how appealing it is, should be subjected to fact checking before whole heartedly accepting it. I also realized some arguments cannot be resolved because they are mostly subjective in nature.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:24:23pm

re: #75 Big Beautiful Door

New shoe drops on hoop crazy North Carolina. No more NCAA Tournament games!

slate.com

That’s it. That’ll do it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:26:03pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:26:16pm

re: #90 Big Beautiful Door

This realization I had made me conclude that every belief, regardless of how appealing it is, should be subjected to fact checking before whole heartedly accepting it. I also realized some arguments cannot be resolved because they are mostly subjective in nature.

The prime example here is Biblical Literalism. To believe in that, one must reject science, history and even logic, as parts of the Bible contradict other ones. But that will not deter people from trying to base their lives and their views of law and society on a selectively literal interpretation of Scripture.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:26:25pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

That’s it. That’ll do it.

Be hilarious if NASCAR threatened to go away too.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:27:17pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:27:34pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Be hilarious if NASCAR threatened to go away too.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

That’s a funny one!

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:28:04pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

That’s it. That’ll do it.

Yep.

And that ruling applies to any state with laws that discriminate, so Mississippi and Alabama are out, too.

They’re gonna lose a lot of money. Too bad, so sad.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:29:26pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

He still has traumatic memories of having to make small talk over dinner. You weren’t there. //

He is the ultimate pig. Every day shows a new example.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:29:31pm

re: #97 makeitstop

Yep.

And that ruling applies to any state with laws that discriminate, so Mississippi and Alabama are out, too.

They’re gonna lose a lot of money. Too bad, so sad.

Throw the schools in these states out of the NCAA now.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:30:09pm

re: #97 makeitstop

Yep.

And that ruling applies to any state with laws that discriminate, so Mississippi and Alabama are out, too.

They’re gonna lose a lot of money. Too bad, so sad.

Next: the SEC

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:30:25pm

re: #99 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Throw the schools in these states out of the NCAA now.

Don’t punish student athletes for the sins of the patriarchs…

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:30:48pm

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Educational standards are on the decline, and among the first things that got left by the wayside were teaching the scientific method, a critical and multi-source approach to information and general information on civics and history.

My parents don’t know the scientific method, and really wouldn’t understand the difference between hypothesis and theory. I don’t think education standards are declining (I see what my kids are learning and once again wish I could have learned some of that stuff). The internet allows more people to get together and share ideas, no matter how bad, and allows people that wouldn’t otherwise have been heard to be picked up on even the news (think Chuck Johnson).

What we’re seeing is the consequence of people not being skeptical of things they read or here (here being the internet), especially things that confirm their viewpoint of the world.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:31:17pm

re: #99 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Throw the schools in these states out of the NCAA now.

Really? As liberal as the UNC campus is, you’re going to screw over the students there?

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:31:43pm

The Baltimore onesie guy has apparently been shot by police
foxbaltimore.com

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:32:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:32:29pm

re: #96 Timothy Watson

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

That’s a funny one!

Hey you never know heh.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:33:06pm

re: #105 Kragar

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It’s so funny to see the GOP not learn a damn thing. Reicne can start by rebranding himself from the unemployment line.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:33:37pm

re: #103 Timothy Watson

Really? As liberal as the UNC campus is, you’re going to screw over the students there?

Have to agree.

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:34:12pm

The more hilariously awful, tone-deaf things that Trump says that will get him creamed in the general election, the easier it is to believe that he’s somehow trying to lose. You couldn’t write a more perfect foil for Hillary Clinton. It’s just bizarre.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:34:13pm

re: #97 makeitstop

Yep.

And that ruling applies to any state with laws that discriminate, so Mississippi and Alabama are out, too.

They’re gonna lose a lot of money. Too bad, so sad.

From the article:

The NCAA already prohibits states that fly the Confederate battle flag from hosting “neutral-site championships” (that is to say, tournament championships), and it does not allow schools that use “abusive or offensive” Native American imagery or mascots to host.

I’m curious if Mississippi is out already due to its flag.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:34:29pm

re: #95 Kragar

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Yeah they’re fucking dumb.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:34:48pm

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s not like they’re seeing any money from their endeavors (and yes, I know they had settled a lawsuit enabling some of them to collect proceeds from the use of their likenesses in video games).

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:35:19pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:35:43pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:35:48pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

It’s so funny to see the GOP not learn a damn thing. Reicne can start by rebranding himself from the unemployment line.

Their problem is the electorate they have makes being misogynistic, racist and xenophobic a winning combination in GOP primaries, so GOP politicians will go there, regardless of what the RNC wants.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:35:58pm

re: #110 Belafon

From the article:

I’m curious if Mississippi is out already due to its flag.

Yes

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:36:28pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

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Stick to basketball Bobby.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:36:32pm

re: #113 Kragar

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“Nutbag Cruz supporter” seems redundant.

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:36:46pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

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Maybe instead of just having a surrogate yelling at chairs, Trump can invite Bobby on stage to throw them instead.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:36:54pm

re: #115 Big Beautiful Door

Their problem is the electorate they have makes being misogynistic, racist and xenophobic a winning combination in GOP primaries, so GOP politicians will go there, regardless of what the RNC wants.

Right. It’s a chicken/egg sort of thing really.

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:37:09pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Stick to basketball Bobby.

Don’t you mean ringball?

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:37:34pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

And Sarandon says she can’t support Clinton because of her “war record”

Fucking moron.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:38:42pm

re: #119 withak

Maybe instead of just having a surrogate yelling at chairs, Trump can invite Bobby on stage to throw them instead.

I’m honestly surprised it was Palin, who I know played basketball in HS that mocked the Cruz basketball ring comment and not Knight. And man how fitting is it that Knight, the ultimate angry white man is a Trump guy? Knight’s one of the best basketball coaches ever but give me Dean Smith or John Wooden over him any day.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:39:09pm

re: #109 withak

The more hilariously awful, tone-deaf things that Trump says that will get him creamed in the general election, the easier it is to believe that he’s somehow trying to lose. You couldn’t write a more perfect foil for Hillary Clinton. It’s just bizarre.

We will see if the mentor to oligarchs and dictators, Paul Manafort, can have the same success remaking Trump as he had with Jonas Savimbi and Victor Yanukovych.
slate.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:39:59pm

re: #103 Timothy Watson

Really? As liberal as the UNC campus is, you’re going to screw over the students there?

I guess my absolute, total lack of interest in sportsball of any kind just numbs me to that…sorry.

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Chez Ko Pe  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:40:03pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

Back then, it took “guts” for General MacArthur to stand up against all the mouth-foamers who wanted to eradicate the entirety of Japan. “Nuking them” was the (ahem) politically correct option.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:40:24pm

re: #103 Timothy Watson

Really? As liberal as the UNC campus is, you’re going to screw over the students there?

I don’t see what good it would do to remove the schools from the NCAA. Barring tournaments from being hosted in the states, on the other hand, seems like the right move and one that will add to the pressure in a reasonable manner.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:41:16pm

re: #118 Barefoot Grin

“Nutbag Cruz supporter” seems redundant.

So is “hot water heater”—but it doesn’t look like I’m going to stop saying it anytime soon.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:42:07pm

re: #127 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t see what good it would do to remove the schools from the NCAA. Barring tournaments from being hosted in the states, on the other hand, seems like the right move and one that will add to the pressure in a reasonable manner.

The former is also something of a nuclear option that would have major financial repercussions to institutions outside of these states, and it would not be easily undone.

Neutral-site events and tournaments can and are formed and unformed pretty casually.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:44:34pm

re: #129 Testy Toad T

The former is also something of a nuclear option that would have major financial repercussions to institutions outside of these states, and it would not be easily undone.

Neutral-site events and tournaments can and are formed and unformed pretty casually.

Exactly. And for someplace as basketball-crazy as NC, losing tournament games - which they’re currently scheduled to have in 2017 and 2018 - is a big deal. People will notice that.

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:45:36pm

re: #122 Kragar

And Sarandon says she can’t support Clinton because of her “war record”

Fucking moron.

She used several such examples in her Colbert appearance. Like fracking is the worst ever thing for the environment. I’m not a fan of fracking at all though natural gas is a much cleaner fuel than coal which is why Hillary was encouraging it as a transition fuel as SoS. She also said MONSANTO and that she didn’t want RoundUp in her cereal. Um, not how that works. Like so many Berners she refuses to see past the talking points to the bigger, more complete picture.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:47:12pm
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Jack Burton  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:48:43pm

re: #131 allegro

Moonbats, like wingnuts, have always been reality-challenged, and she is definitely a textbook example of a moonbat.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:50:27pm

re: #132 Kragar

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He’ll be lucky if he matches how Romney did with African-Americans.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:51:31pm
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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:51:43pm

re: #132 Kragar

I think they misunderstood. Trump has a friend named African American, and he’s pretty sure he’s got that vote locked up.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:53:18pm

re: #132 Kragar

He must have hired that polling firm that ended up being wrong by 96 points.

Gravis polled for former state Del. Mike Smigiel, who was challenging Rep. Andy Harris in the GOP primary in Maryland’s conservative 1st Congressional District. Smigiel’s poll gave him an impossible 58-29 lead on Harris. Harris won 78-11.

That’s a 96 point difference. You really have to work at being that wrong. That’s exactly the kind of folks Trump wants on his team.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:53:35pm

re: #135 Kragar

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We can debate goatees all day long but I think that we can all agree that guys who have no chin shouldn’t have a goatee either.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:57:21pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

He’ll be lucky if he matches how Romney did with African-Americans.

Actually, I suspect he might do slightly better with Obama off the ticket. African-American turnout might be a bit lower as well. OTOH, Trump would be lucky to get half of Romney’s Hispanic vote.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:57:42pm

Sometimes I miss ya Johnny:

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:59:50pm

re: #138 b.d.

We can debate goatees all day long but I think that we can all agree that guys who have no chin shouldn’t have a goatee either.

And all that money and he still shops at the Goodwill….

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:01:07pm

re: #141 Barefoot Grin

And all that money and he still shops at the Goodwill….

He is a hot mess.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:01:33pm

Cruz continued: “When John Boehner calls me Lucifer, he is directing it at you. What Boehner is angry at is me standing with the American people.”

i applaud cruz and the rest of the gop for the brilliant work they are doing this year to fatally dismember the republican party

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:01:52pm

re: #132 Kragar

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I dunno, it could be he’s seen McCain all over TV the last 8 years and longs for a similar career as “disgruntled sore loser”. If he is playing this to lose, they should add his face to Mount Rushmore.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:02:06pm

D’oh!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:03:22pm
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Testy Toad T  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:04:23pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

Look, Almost Half The Country Agrees With Me!: The Bernie Sanders Story

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:04:38pm
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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:05:10pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

So not quite half. 48% of millennials isn’t going to get anything passed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:05:25pm

re: #19 Testy Toad T

My favorite thing about conspiracy theories is that believers usually do not engage in any sort of thought experiment about how they would structure the conspiracy if they were in charge of carrying it out, and then compare the thing they believe with the system they’d design.

I dunno, maybe this just pidgeonholes me as a weird engineer.

Also, treated like any other hypothesis, conspiracy theories make predictions which are useful (turn out to be true) or not (turn out NOT to be true). Conspiracy theorists never test those predictions, nor do they even acknowledge the predictions their ‘theory’ makes.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:07:43pm

re: #148 Kragar

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I can only imagine what Donald would think of Glenn Greenwald; “Boy, can you believe the ego on this guy?”

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:08:43pm

re: #149 Belafon

So not quite half. 48% of millennials isn’t going to get anything passed.

Especially if their voting machines are rigged!

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Timothy Watson  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:10:47pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

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Christ, Bernie really isn’t very smart, is he?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:12:44pm

Boom! I knew this was coming.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:13:31pm

Speaking of conspiracy theories, a Bern-out I know has finally said it outright:

I think I’m siding with that 57% of Americans who think the process is pre-decided from beginning to end—so why? I’m not voting in the local elections and unless Bernie is a write-in, I won’t vote in November. First time in 40 years I haven’t voted. Totally disgusted.

I have always suspected that the real purpose of conspiracy theories is to take people out of the process by making it seem like a pointless charade. This may be why the Putin minions put so much effort into spreading them.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:14:29pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel

57% of Americans who think the process is pre-decided from beginning to end

ed: lol

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:16:07pm

re: #154 goddamnedfrank

Boom! I knew this was coming.

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Don’t read the replies.

(Or do, if you want to read some anti-Semitic bullshit.)

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Testy Toad T  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:16:13pm

If THE PROCESS were all a charade and Clintonistas controlled every lever of power, uh, what’s that black dude doing sitting in the Oval Office?

How do these people walk and chew gum at the same time?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:17:09pm

re: #138 b.d.

We can debate goatees all day long but I think that we can all agree that guys who have no chin shouldn’t have a goatee either.

Or if they do, it needs to be longer and bushier, so nobody notices the absence of chin behind it.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:17:20pm

re: #156 Testy Toad T

ed: lol

If the 57% voted, they’d probably make a rather huge difference in the election.

If it were rigged, Citizens United would have been unnecessary.

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Jack Burton  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:18:17pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel

Every time I hear someone make an asinine statement like: “Voting doesn’t change anything”, or “If voting changed anything, they wouldn’t allow it.” I just want to smack them like that damn Batman meme. I’m tired of these nihilistic Alex Jones-Lite MFers.

I hear this at least 2-3 or more times a week during any election cycle.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:19:44pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:21:06pm
57% of Americans who think the process is pre-decided from beginning to end

Right, even after all those primaries other people won, Jeb Bush STILL has the most delegates!

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:21:17pm

re: #161 Jack Burton

Every time I hear someone make an asinine statement like: “Voting doesn’t change anything”, or “If voting changed anything, they wouldn’t allow it.” I just want to smack them like that damn Batman meme. I’m tired of these nihilistic Alex Jones-Lite MFers.

I hear this at least 2-3 or more times a week during any election cycle.

Worse, this is a person who was a major party nominee for the state legislature just 8 years ago.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:21:27pm

re: #154 goddamnedfrank

Boom! I knew this was coming.

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The responses to that are uniformly ugly. Trump supporters are not Israel supporters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:21:53pm

re: #132 Kragar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:22:12pm
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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:24:45pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

NY, the Quebec of the South.

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Chez Ko Pe  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:24:55pm

re: #158 Testy Toad T

How do these people walk and chew gum at the same time?

Very carefully and with many pauses to consider the next step. (In other words, not at all like they do anything else.)

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:26:21pm
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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:26:54pm

re: #168 Franklin

That’s Brooklyn. The rest of the state is Ontario. Especially the bit from Westchester north and west.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:27:01pm

re: #132 Kragar

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Trump says Blacks have a 59% unemployment rate. HE SAID IT TWICE.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:27:27pm

re: #170 Kragar

Naw, they’ll use that list as a checkoff for support..

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:27:30pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

…is it so hard to admit that you’ve been beat?

For many people, yes.. It is a given amongst such folks that ‘losers’ are much lesser people than ‘winners’. That both Sanders and Trump supporters display the same behaviour demonstrates how similar they are at the core of their personalities.

So to ‘lose’ is an attack on an individual who holds this belief. ‘Losing’ undermines their identity.

As long as elections are about ‘winning’ as opposed to picking representation this behaviour will continue.

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jaunte  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:27:47pm

Daily Stormer Trump fans attacking Julia Ioffe on twitter:

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Chez Ko Pe  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:29:38pm

re: #175 jaunte

Ugh. Wow. It’s moments like this that I quietly wish I could be fascist, just for a day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:29:56pm

Jane, still not helping…

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jaunte  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:31:06pm

re: #176 Chez Ko Pe

The rest of her timeline is full of even nastier examples. This is the kind of thing Trump has unleashed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:31:26pm

Jebus

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:31:58pm

re: #175 jaunte

Daily Stormer Trump fans attacking Julia Ioffe on twitter:

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Alright, that’s enough Twitter for one day.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:32:08pm

OBAMA IS TURNING THE PEOPLES HOUSE INTO A FORTRESS.
HE NEVER PLANS TO LEAVE.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:32:23pm

re: #39 The Vicious Babushka

She looks like the type who would jump off a high building and have to ask for directions on the way down.

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jaunte  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:33:01pm

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter realllly needs to pay for a cleanup crew.

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:34:08pm

re: #183 jaunte

Twitter realllly needs to pay for a cleanup crew.

They need to enforce the standards they already have, or if for some reason that kind of bullshit is somehow still allowed by them, come up with new ones that do…

Oh who am I kidding, they won’t care.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:34:11pm

re: #183 jaunte

Twitter realllly needs to pay for a cleanup crew.

I looked at her Timeline, I just can’t even.

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jaunte  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:34:39pm

re: #185 The Vicious Babushka

It’s insane.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:37:44pm
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Testy Toad T  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:38:24pm

What nice people.

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sagehen  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:38:34pm

re: #149 Belafon

So not quite half. 48% of millennials isn’t going to get anything passed.

So is 48% “almost half” or “not even half”?

I suppose it depends if I’m using my enthusiasm voice or my dismissive voice…

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:39:06pm

O.M.F.G. I have no other words for this horror.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:40:41pm

“…Ronnie Lee Neeley, 64, is accused of shooting a 16-year-old in the hip after he and a group of teens covered the yard of a nearby home with toilet paper. Neeley faces charges of menacing, discharging a weapon into an occupied vehicle and second degree assault…”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:41:05pm

re: #188 Testy Toad T

What nice people.

And yet the very same people will tell you “the ovens” are a myth.

<retch>

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Jack Burton  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:43:56pm

re: #192 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And yet the very same people will tell you “the ovens” are a myth.

<retch>

Even the non-antisemitic conspiracy kooks seem to have no problem at all holding completely contradictory beliefs (with only the fact that they are asinine or insane in common), and often state them side by side, in the same discussion. Sometimes in the same sentence.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:44:46pm
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TedStriker  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:47:10pm

re: #64 ObserverArt

Hmmmm. OANN. Looked it up…part of Herring Networks. Further look to Wiki…and this.

Oprah??? Whut?

Oh well…maybe she liked Obama because…and doesn’t like Hillary because…

Later, Gotta run out to the bank, etc.

Uhh, no…I sense either an error (OWN is Oprah’s network) or a purposeful smear (given Oprah’s history of supporting liberal causes, I don’t see her being involved with a conservative media outlet).

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:49:12pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

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Who is America fighting against that requires nuclear weapons?

Oh, yeah. Islam!

Hmmm. That might be a useful idea for a story. Far in the future characters are discussing the destruction of Mecca and that event’s effects on history. It will, of, course, be a dystopian future.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:51:58pm

good grief

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:52:15pm

A Berner just sent me this meme. They are so blocked now.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:53:07pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

“Could you please make it for the day after the convention? That would be great.”

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:56:31pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

[Embedded content]

A candidate can’t fill out a candidate disclosure report because he is too busy being a candidate?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:57:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:59:31pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

[Embedded content]

The campaign is amateur hour.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:02:16pm

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

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I hate fucking Nazis.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:05:07pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

This would be the disclosure they’ve already stated they were ready to release as soon as HRC releases the speech transcripts that she is under no obligation to release?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:09:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:11:08pm

re: #204 Kragar

This would be the disclosure they’ve already stated they were ready to release as soon as HRC releases the speech transcripts that she is under no obligation to release?

No, I think was the tax returns.
The financial disclosure thing is absolutely required.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:12:26pm
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TedStriker  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:17:18pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

The @BernieSanders campaign asks for 45-day extension in filing Sanders’ latest personal financial disclosure pic.twitter.com

— Dave Levinthal (@davelevinthal) April 28, 2016

re: #199 Belafon

“Could you please make it for the day after the convention? That would be great.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:17:24pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

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Ted Cruz supported.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:18:50pm
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TedStriker  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:20:56pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

It’s VERY disturbing to see PBS legitimizing violence-encouraging extremists like Troy Newman.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 28, 2016

Minds so open, they’re leaking out of their skulls.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:23:26pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Was Robert Lewis Dear unavailable?

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:24:54pm

The automated twitter account removes every reference to “God” and replaces it with the phrase “your d*ck.”

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:28:23pm

re: #213 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:32:00pm

re: #213 Kragar

[Embedded content]

That’s hilarious.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:34:00pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ‎@Green_Footballs

It’s VERY disturbing to see PBS legitimizing violence-encouraging extremists like Troy Newman.

5:15 PM - 28 Apr 2016

Is this what happened when their budget was cut by the Republicans? It almost seems they have had to go with the model that brings in the most rabid viewers that can be counted on which would be trying to capture some of the same folks that make up the FOX type viewers.

One thing though…if we think that CNN, MSNBC and PBS are all trying for that crowd more than before, will they begin to split up those numbers and water down those numbers overall?

It really seems our old media is playing “me too” and that will screw them all over.

I see it like what is going on with sports broadcasting. ESPN was the FOX News-like leader of sports broadcasting for so long. Now that they are getting competition from NBC Sports Network, FOX Sports, College Conference entities like the Big 10 Network and The SEC Network it is all getting chopped up and ESPN is cutting, cutting and cutting budget, staff, etc.

Maybe we really are seeing it all going down as the ‘net pushes against it all more and more. This may just be the death throes and there is going to be some real bad attempts for the old media to stay alive.

It is all getting messy.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:35:00pm

Baltimore panda bomber…

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b_sharp  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:38:11pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Is PBS under new management?

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:45:09pm

re: #218 b_sharp

Is PBS under new management?

Not that I am aware, but they used to rely on a big chunk of money from the Government since it was considered ‘public’ broadcasting. For a long time they became the whipping boys of the conservatives who saw them as an un-Godly, liberal cesspool rotting the brains of America. Those groups called for them to cut their funding and that has caused them to look for more and more funding from their own endeavors.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:54:56pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Someone really got bored and created this.


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