Monday Evening Awesome: eighth blackbird’s Tiny Desk Concert

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Classical music isn’t dead, and it doesn’t even smell funny. It smells great when it’s played by eighth blackbird.

May 2, 2016 by TOM HUIZENGA • The Chicago new-music ensemble eighth blackbird is on a roll. Just after winning its fourth Grammy in February, the group received a MacArthur Award for Creative and Effective Institutions; the prize came with a $400,000 grant. Hand Eye — eighth blackbird’s second album in seven months — just came out, and this season the group marks its 20th anniversary. The celebration includes an extensive tour, with world premieres of music by Bryce Dessner and David T. Little, as well as a gig as a “living installation” at Chicago’s Museum of Contemporary Art, where eighth blackbird has commandeered the third-floor galleries as a space to rehearse and perform.

It’s an understatement to note that there’s far less space behind Bob Boilen’s desk. But after a few discussions about placement, the sextet squeezed in while making sure everyone could see each other — one of the keys to navigating rhythmically challenging pieces by David Lang, Bryce Dessner and Robert Honstein.

Right out of the gate, we meet the group’s newest member, flutist Nathalie Joachim, who opens the first of two short pieces, “Wave The Sea,” with a scurrying theme of nervous energy. The music is by Bryce Dessner, perhaps best known for his work in The National but increasingly in demand as a classical composer. It’s Dessner’s take on the folk tradition of grisly story-songs collected in his larger suite, Murder Ballades.

“Pulse,” from Robert Honstein’s three-movement Conduit, seems to hover in midair. Throbbing notes from Matthew Duvall’s vibraphone, Yvonne Lam’s violin, Lisa Kaplan’s piano and Michael J. Maccaferri’s clarinet fold in one by one, as if in a round. Joachim’s flute floats above while Nicholas Photinos’ cello secures the bottom end, fleshing out a mesmerizing wash of sound.

David Lang’s “learn to fly,” also from a larger work, pumps up the energy with a motorik beat, fueled by Kaplan’s syncopation. The interlocking parts race on until Lam finally breaks out of the pattern, soaring in a sweepingly romantic solo.

For those who persist in predicting the death of classical music, eighth blackbird once again demonstrates that it remains vibrantly alive.

The group’s new album, Hand Eye, is available now:
iTunes: itunes.apple.com
Amazon: amazon.com

Set List:
Bryce Dessner: “Wave The Sea,” “Brushy Fork”
Robert Honstein: “Pulse”
David Lang: “learn to fly”

Credits:
Producers: Tom Huizenga, Niki Walker; Audio Engineers: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Kara Frame, Colin Marshall; Production Assistant: Jackson Sinnenberg; Photo: Brandon Chew/NPR.

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bratwurst  May 2, 2016 • 6:03:27pm
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Testy Toad T  May 2, 2016 • 6:05:50pm

(I post long screeds at the worst damn times… copypasta’d from downstairs)

I know it’s awfully early to write the postscript on this general election, but the real striking thing to me has been the appetite for economic protectionism on both sides of the aisle. One-percenty-ness and robber barons have been part of the mainstream political discourse in various terms basically forever, but I grew up thinking of ranting about NAFTA and the like as a real fringe LUAPNOR sort of detail, too nuanced to encapsulate in a soundbite and too complicated to be a sensible battle cry.

Now I have Berniebros yelling TPP TPP TPP in my ear, and Trump’s over here on the other side promising tons and tons of high-wage manufacturing jobs, the former a message I’d consider more traditionally Republican and the latter straight out of the playbook of a union boss. Isolationism hadn’t been politically mainstream since the Depression.

How much of this is a longer-term result of the same demographics losing in economic recoveries over and over and over? How much of Sanders’ rhetoric has actually been rendered mainstream by Trump first broaching similar subjects?

I don’t think think this line of discourse is going away any time soon, and yet it looks like an obviously hopeless path, a complete loser non-starter. Nobody is going to build cheap plastic widgets in your podunk town, because nobody is going to un-invent nearly-free computer-routed modular containerized shipping.

It does look like it is a leading indicator of the manifestation of our broader socioeconomic need to decouple comfortable life from full-time employment, as workers become so destructively productive per-worker that there’s no need for most of them.

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 6:07:42pm

re: #2 Testy Toad T

(And my reply)

Not learning history, doomed to repeat it, something like that.

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Charles Johnson  May 2, 2016 • 6:08:09pm
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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:10:11pm

re: #2 Testy Toad T

(I post long screeds at the worst damn times… copypasta’d from downstairs)

I know it’s awfully early to write the postscript on this general election, but the real striking thing to me has been the appetite for economic protectionism on both sides of the aisle. One-percenty-ness and robber barons have been part of the mainstream political discourse in various terms basically forever, but I grew up thinking of ranting about NAFTA and the like as a real fringe LUAPNOR sort of detail, too nuanced to encapsulate in a soundbite and too complicated to be a sensible battle cry.

Now I have Berniebros yelling TPP TPP TPP in my ear, and Trump’s over here on the other side promising tons and tons of high-wage manufacturing jobs, the former a message I’d consider more traditionally Republican and the latter straight out of the playbook of a union boss. Isolationism hadn’t been politically mainstream since the Depression.

How much of this is a longer-term result of the same demographics losing in economic recoveries over and over and over? How much of Sanders’ rhetoric has actually been rendered mainstream by Trump first broaching similar subjects?

I don’t think think this line of discourse is going away any time soon, and yet it looks like an obviously hopeless path, a complete loser non-starter. Nobody is going to build cheap plastic widgets in your podunk town, because nobody is going to un-invent nearly-free computer-routed modular containerized shipping.

It does look like it is a leading indicator of the manifestation of our broader socioeconomic need to decouple comfortable life from full-time employment, as workers become so destructively productive per-worker that there’s no need for most of them.

And as I said below, hence the need for a universal basic income, to redistribute the enormous wealth being generated by technological innovation from capital to labor.

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Testy Toad T  May 2, 2016 • 6:10:46pm

re: #3 Belafon

(And my reply)

Not learning history, doomed to repeat it, something like that.

I’m actually not sure there is a history here, other than a recent (last 20-30 years) history of the lowest-educated, least-skilled workers feeling the weakest recoveries.

That’s part of why it’s scary. We’ve got no built-in societal mechanism to deal with the fundamental concept of post-scarcity labor.

If Bernie wanted me to really feel it, that’s the revolution he’d have tried to stir up.

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Testy Toad T  May 2, 2016 • 6:13:39pm

re: #5 Big Beautiful Door

And as I said below, hence the need for a universal basic income, to redistribute the enormous wealth being generated by technological innovation from capital to labor.

Definitely, but we’ve really baked in the idea that workers are incentivized to perform by giving them money. I think some folks would still be out there wanting to change the world no matter what effect it had on their station in life, but how much would we have to pay plumbers? Is there a living wage consistent with healthy, safe, comfortable life that allows the kinda crappy jobs to survive at any cost? How hard will the workers who show up actually work? I know I wouldn’t be all that excited to show up at 0730 if my mortgage weren’t riding on it, even though I mostly like my job.

Anyone who says they’re completely confident of the ramifications of the answers to these questions, or probably even the answers themselves, is lying.

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 6:13:44pm

re: #6 Testy Toad T

I’m actually not sure there is a history here, other than a recent (last 20-30 years) history of the lowest-educated, least-skilled workers feeling the weakest recoveries.

That’s part of why it’s scary. We’ve got no built-in societal mechanism to deal with the fundamental concept of post-scarcity labor.

If Bernie wanted me to really feel it, that’s the revolution he’d have tried to stir up.

I was responding in part about the idea of trade protections coming back into fashion. We have a history on how bad they were, and also, how bad the economic ideas that gave rise to them were.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2016 • 6:15:10pm

re: #2 Testy Toad T

Now I have Berniebros yelling TPP TPP TPP in my ear, and Trump’s over here on the other side promising tons and tons of high-wage manufacturing jobs, the former a message I’d consider more traditionally Republican and the latter straight out of the playbook of a union boss. Isolationism hadn’t been politically mainstream since the Depression.

*Ahem*

Trump is promising tons and tons of manufacturing jobs but he’s not promising high wages. He thinks workers should take a pay cut “in order to stay competitive”

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Charles Johnson  May 2, 2016 • 6:15:14pm

OK. I forced myself to read Andrew Sullivan’s tl;dr essay for New York Magazine.

Not impressed. Oh, OK, slightly impressed at the effort it took to put together this extremely verbose apology for elite rule of popular opinion. But I think he’s hyper-ventilating to a ridiculous degree by suggesting Trump is going to mean the end of America.

If he’s actually elected — which I SERIOUSLY doubt will happen — he’s going to find himself up against an entire governmental system that will refuse to do his fascist bidding, from the Defense Department on down.

Electing Trump may be an extinction event, all right — for the Fox News-indoctrinated debased right wing. Not for America.

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Testy Toad T  May 2, 2016 • 6:16:53pm

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

*Ahem*

Trump is promising tons and tons of manufacturing jobs but he’s not promising high wages. He thinks workers should take a pay cut “in order to stay competitive”

Well, it’s pretty clear at this point that the message Trump’s audience receives bears only a passing resemblance to what Trump actually says with his word blocks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2016 • 6:18:28pm

So, there’s a GOP Senate debate on Kentucky public TV tonight and only one guy showed up.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:19:08pm

re: #7 Testy Toad T

Definitely, but we’ve really baked in the idea that workers are incentivized to perform by giving them money. I think some folks would still be out there wanting to change the world no matter what effect it had on their station in life, but how much would we have to pay plumbers? Is there a living wage consistent with healthy, safe, comfortable life that allows the kinda crappy jobs to survive at any cost? How hard will the workers who show up actually work? I know I wouldn’t be all that excited to show up at 0730 if my mortgage weren’t riding on it, even though I mostly like my job.

Anyone who says they’re completely confident of the ramifications of the answers to these questions, or probably even the answers themselves, is lying.

I think if you set the UBI at just around the poverty line, say $1,000 a month, very few people would be satisfied to just live off of that. And if they are, I doubt they contribute much to the economy anyway. A long term experiment is going to be conducted in Kenya by giving thousands of villagers a basic income for 10-15 years, so we’ll see how that goes.

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Kragar  May 2, 2016 • 6:19:37pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 2, 2016 • 6:19:52pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

f he’s actually elected — which I SERIOUSLY doubt will happen — he’s going to find himself up against an entire governmental system that will refuse to do his fascist bidding, from the Defense Department on down.

The real question becomes how much damage does a Trump win do to downticket races to the House and the Senate?

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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:22:05pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, there’s a GOP Senate debate on Kentucky public TV tonight and only one guy showed up.

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I wish refusing to debate would actually hurt Paul’s chances, but I doubt it will.

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Testy Toad T  May 2, 2016 • 6:23:08pm

re: #13 Big Beautiful Door

I think if you set the UBI at just around the poverty line, say $1,000 a month, very few people would be satisfied to just live off of that. And if they are, I doubt they contribute much to the economy anyway. A long term experiment is going to be conducted in Kenya by giving thousands of villagers a basic income for 10-15 years, so we’ll see how that goes.

Okay, sure, but if we’re living in a world where we only need six out of ten people to work…

I dunno, it sounds like it would spawn a dog-eat-dog world of wretched working conditions that would be definitely better for those in abject poverty but still a loser for a big chunk of the lower-middle class.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 2, 2016 • 6:24:21pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Don’t forget that Sully was a rabid supporter of “The Bell Curve”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2016 • 6:24:28pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2016 • 6:25:36pm

re: #16 Big Beautiful Door

I wish refusing to debate would actually hurt Paul’s chances, but I doubt it will.

But will it hurt tRump’s chances in the GE?

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William Lewis  May 2, 2016 • 6:25:51pm

re: #13 Big Beautiful Door

I always preferred a version where one filed a tax forms. If you and/or family end up under the poverty line (however that is defined but considerably higher than currently) you get cut a “refund” check for the difference. Once a year, no strings on how it’s used, just an injection of income. Some will use it wisely, some won’t and most will be a “bit of both”.

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Charles Johnson  May 2, 2016 • 6:26:08pm

re: #18 Eric The Fruit Bat

Don’t forget that Sully was a rabid supporter of “The Bell Curve”.

Oh believe me, I haven’t forgotten that.

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 6:28:20pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, there’s a GOP Senate debate on Kentucky public TV tonight and only one guy showed up.

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Is RP already ending his term? I’m dying faster than I thought.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:29:29pm

re: #17 Testy Toad T

Okay, sure, but if we’re living in a world where we only need six out of ten people to work…

I dunno, it sounds like it would spawn a dog-eat-dog world of wretched working conditions that would be definitely better for those in abject poverty but still a loser for a big chunk of the lower-middle class.

I am optimistic that there are lots of creative and service jobs out there which the robots aren’t going to take anytime soon. And as technological innovation continues to increase wealth more, the UBI can be increased to reflect that. More people could work part-time, retire early, take extended parental leave, sabbaticals, etc. Getting wealthier shouldn’t be a problem if we handle it correctly.

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goddamnedfrank  May 2, 2016 • 6:30:09pm
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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:30:58pm

re: #20 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

But will it hurt tRump’s chances in the GE?

I think his chances are slim to none already. He needs debates to demonstrate his successful pivot to “presidential,” if he can pull it off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2016 • 6:31:13pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

Is RP already ending his term? I’m dying faster than I thought.

That’s why we had the stupid GOP presidential caucus that Rand bought because Kentucky’s constitution says a person’s name can only appear in one place on a ballot.
Rand couldn’t run for president and senate on the same primary ballot.

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 6:31:42pm

re: #17 Testy Toad T

Okay, sure, but if we’re living in a world where we only need six out of ten people to work…

I dunno, it sounds like it would spawn a dog-eat-dog world of wretched working conditions that would be definitely better for those in abject poverty but still a loser for a big chunk of the lower-middle class.

Ease into it by setting union or governmental penalties on the 40-hr week. (Oddly, my first full-time job in 1962 was a 37.5 hr week. ILGWU shop.)

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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:32:39pm

re: #21 William Lewis

I always preferred a version where one filed a tax forms. If you and/or family end up under the poverty line (however that is defined but considerably higher than currently) you get cut a “refund” check for the difference. Once a year, no strings on how it’s used, just an injection of income. Some will use it wisely, some won’t and most will be a “bit of both”.

But that discourages work if working results in a dollar for dollar cut in benefits. Plus it incurs a stigma and encourages rightwing politicians to seek to cut it if its not universal.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2016 • 6:33:00pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2016 • 6:33:51pm

EET MOAR CHEEZ!!!!!!

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 6:36:09pm

re: #29 Big Beautiful Door

But that discourages work if working results in a dollar for dollar cut in benefits. Plus it incurs a stigma and encourages rightwing politicians to seek to cut it if its not universal.

I think part of the point is that automation really does discourage work, and not without reason. If robots could plant and pick food and build houses, is there a reason we should have to pay for them (at least until the robots are sentient and deserve the rights others do)? How would you?

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nines09  May 2, 2016 • 6:39:31pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

You will need proper ID, two verifiable references a note from “mother” and an absolute ignorance of anything remotely approaching fuckery. Just the words “I’ve always liked him” get you the keys to the inner city. Like the GOP would actually grow a soul. or conscience, or anything resembling humanity. Yeah. That line to kiss the ass of the anointed one will be long. And King Pimp will drink it in. Deeply. Slowly. And now you shall have your Cowboy. Yes you shall.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:40:56pm

re: #32 Belafon

I think part of the point is that automation really does discourage work, and not without reason. If robots could plant and pick food and build houses, is there a reason we should have to pay for them (at least until the robots are sentient and deserve the rights others do)? How would you?

If we get to the point that robots can do all the work, then we have essentially achieved a post-capitalist world in which everyone is free to pursue the activities they find to be most fulfilling. Humans need social interaction with other humans, and we will do that through scientific, cultural, athletic, erotic and artistic pursuits.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 2, 2016 • 6:40:58pm

re: #32 Belafon

Best to ask Number 5.

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Romantic Heretic  May 2, 2016 • 6:43:15pm

re: #2 Testy Toad T

Our economics are founded on scarcity. Making scarce things more available and delivering them to more people.

The problem is: What happens when scarcity is no longer a thing to worry about? Especially in a society like ours where work is as much a holy ritual as a practical necessity.

When things are not scarce, and few people are working, our economics doesn’t function well at all.

In such a scenario, where millions of people no longer have access to work or products, it’s not at all surprising that demagogues will have plenty of opportunity to stir up shit.

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 6:44:01pm

re: #34 Big Beautiful Door

If we get to the point that robots can do all the work, then we have essentially achieved a post-capitalist world in which everyone is free to pursue the activities they find to be most fulfilling. Humans need social interaction with other humans, and we will do that through scientific, cultural, athletic, erotic and artistic pursuits.

I think we have to plan for it now, which we as a country won’t. We’re way too tied to the idea that our worth is determined by our income which we use how much we work as a crude approximation. If we can’t break those associations, the living conditions for the lower 60% of the country are just going to get worse and worse.

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 6:44:43pm

re: #34 Big Beautiful Door

If we get to the point that robots can do all the work, then we have essentially achieved a post-capitalist world in which everyone is free to pursue the activities they find to be most fulfilling. Humans need social interaction with other humans, and we will do that through scientific, cultural, athletic, erotic and artistic pursuits.

Except that one of the favorite leisure time pursuits is uncontrolled fucking, which brings in a Malthusian problem that has to be addressed along the way.

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2016 • 6:48:35pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Romantic Heretic  May 2, 2016 • 6:49:43pm

re: #6 Testy Toad T

I’d have to say The Industrial Revolution provides a some idea of the direction today’s technological changes will have on society. That revolution destroyed millions of jobs, and lives.

Craftsmen became obsolete and huge amounts of wealth transferred from the middle class and poor to the wealthy. For over a century social turmoil roiled the West. In Russia the new system called capitalism made itself so unpopular there was a revolution. In others, such as Germany, Italy and France it brought dictators to power.

When people get cut from power and wealth they try to take it back, or hand it to people that appear to be concerned with them but aren’t.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:51:23pm

re: #37 Belafon

I think we have to plan for it now, which we as a country won’t. We’re way too tied to the idea that our worth is determined by our income which we use how much we work as a crude approximation. If we can’t break those associations, the living conditions for the lower 60% of the country are just going to get worse and worse.

There is a floor as to how bad it can get, however, regardless of what the libertarians think. Conditions have already reached the point to make Trump the GOP nominee and Sanders a viable Democratic challenger, and many states are raising their minimum wages since Washington won’t. Eventually we will have to adopt significantly more redistributive policies such as a universal basic income or there will be a revolution. I think the demographic changes in the US which is making the younger generation significantly more liberal will result in the adoption of such policies in the near future.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2016 • 6:53:11pm

re: #34 Big Beautiful Door

If we get to the point that robots can do all the work, then we have essentially achieved a post-capitalist world in which everyone is free to pursue the activities they find to be most fulfilling. Humans need social interaction with other humans, and we will do that through scientific, cultural, athletic, erotic and artistic pursuits.

Robots will have to be programmed and maintained, unless they are so advanced that they can program themselves and will never wear out or need replacement parts.

Everyone is NOT FREE to pursue the activities they find most fulfilling because our society values human beings by the amount of money they make. If work is obsolete what will you do with all the surplus “non productive humans”? Assuming you are not a genocidal maniac.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:53:22pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Except that one of the favorite leisure time pursuits is uncontrolled fucking, which brings in a Malthusian problem that has to be addressed along the way.

Effective long term birth control. pregnancy rates among minority teenagers have dropped 50% in recent years.

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Great White Snark  May 2, 2016 • 6:54:10pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

If he’s actually elected — which I SERIOUSLY doubt will happen — he’s going to find himself up against an entire governmental system that will refuse to do his fascist bidding, from the Defense Department on down.

I agree, but would have a lot more faith in that if I had not already thought Trump would have come to some end already about three different times. Just the fact of being that wrong so far tells me to have no faith in that assumption now through November. At one time we both thought Bush would be the guy at the convention. Then a couple massive missteps by Trump himself.

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 6:54:57pm

re: #41 Big Beautiful Door

There is a floor as to how bad it can get, however, regardless of what the libertarians think. Conditions have already reached the point to make Trump the GOP nominee and Sanders a viable Democratic challenger, and many states are raising their minimum wages since Washington won’t. Eventually we will have to adopt significantly more redistributive policies such as a universal basic income or there will be a revolution. I think the demographic changes in the US which is making the younger generation significantly more liberal will result in the adoption of such policies in the near future.

As long as cheap shipping makes production truly global, the solutions will also have to be global. The UN International Labor Organization, though pretty toothless, is one model. Turns out that the Wobblies were probably right, just a 100 years too early.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:55:46pm

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

Robots will have to be programmed and maintained, unless they are so advanced that they can program themselves and will never wear out or need replacement parts.

Everyone is NOT FREE to pursue the activities they find most fulfilling because our society values human beings by the amount of money they make. If work is obsolete what will you do with all the surplus “non productive humans”? Assuming you are not a genocidal maniac.

Societal values will have to change. In a world where robots do all the work, money should be obsolete, and everyone will belong to the leisure class.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 2, 2016 • 6:57:25pm

Fun discussion, but I have an appointment with the Beast (Damien).

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 6:58:26pm

re: #43 Big Beautiful Door

Effective long term birth control. pregnancy rates among minority teenagers have dropped 50% in recent years.

Tell that to the Cruzes, father and son. All the parts for the future will have to be transformed in a coordinated, culture-wide rebuild, or they will just fall to shit. That’s probably the safe bet.

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Charles Johnson  May 2, 2016 • 6:59:10pm
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William Lewis  May 2, 2016 • 6:59:13pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

See Beta Colony in The Vorkosigan books by Lois McMasters Bujold: at puberty or thereabouts, a child gets a contraceptive implant and their ear(s) pierced to indicate adulthood in that respect. Then after the big assed party is free to make their own mistakes (with help from licensed sex councilors/prostitutes). Of course this would require a level of sanity about sexuality that is utterly unavailable in the US. But then the best SF books always do…

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2016 • 6:59:19pm

re: #46 Big Beautiful Door

Societal values will have to change. In a world where robots do all the work, money should be obsolete, and everyone will belong to the leisure class.

Z0MFG! Are you saying everybody should be EQUAL!!!! What are you some kind of COMMUNIST!!!!!!

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 6:59:46pm

re: #46 Big Beautiful Door

Societal values will have to change. In a world where robots do all the work, money should be obsolete, and everyone will belong to the leisure class.

Most people will belong to the Unnecessary Class. Want to see how that turns out?

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 7:00:32pm

re: #50 William Lewis

See Beta Colony in The Vorkosigan books by Lois McMasters Bujold: at puberty or thereabouts, a child gets a contraceptive implant and their ear(s) pierced to indicate adulthood in that respect. Then after the big assed party is free to make their own mistakes (with help from licensed sex councilors/prostitutes). Of course this would require a level of sanity about sexuality that is utterly unavailable in the US. But then the best SF books always do…

Yeah, but can they go to the bathroom of their choosing?

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 7:00:34pm

re: #46 Big Beautiful Door

Societal values will have to change. In a world where robots do all the work, money should be obsolete, and everyone will belong to the leisure class.

I know there are stories about the wars in Star Trek, but I always think that the invention of the replicator would have been a bomb in society. Imagine a world going from people having to earn money to where everything could be generated. There would be a lot of powered interests that would have opposed it.

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William Lewis  May 2, 2016 • 7:00:45pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

Most people will belong to the Unnecessary Class. Want to see how that turns out?

The word for that is proletariat…

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William Lewis  May 2, 2016 • 7:01:49pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Ask the genetically engineered hermaphrodites… O_o

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CleverToad  May 2, 2016 • 7:02:01pm

re: #24 Big Beautiful Door

I am optimistic that there are lots of creative and service jobs out there which the robots aren’t going to take anytime soon. And as technological innovation continues to increase wealth more, the UBI can be increased to reflect that. More people could work part-time, retire early, take extended parental leave, sabbaticals, etc. Getting wealthier shouldn’t be a problem if we handle it correctly.

One of the interesting points in the discussion is what effect the UBI would have on small towns. With a low cost of living, they become attractive. Without the intense pressure of finding a job just to eat, there are kids who would stay or older people who might choose to move back. Technology already gives people more flexibility to do interesting work from remote locations. Distributed manufacturing enabled by 3-D printing will allow more people to work in small-factory jobs. Would be a good thing for struggling communities to have a population with reliable income to support grocery stores and gas stations, schools and infrastructure.

I would love to see the universal base income happen. Don’t know if I’ll live that long, mind you, but I think it’s a wiser move than some of the alternatives.

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 7:02:05pm

re: #55 William Lewis

The word for that is proletariat…

The proletariat will just have to take its lumpen.

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 7:02:46pm

The Rockwall bathroom story is on every news channel here in the DFW area. We’ll have to see if that’s the kind of attention the mayor was hoping for. I’m kind of hoping a few businesses that are talking about moving here change their minds.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2016 • 7:04:31pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

The proletariat will just have to take its lumpen.

The Trumpenproletariat?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 7:04:54pm

re: #46 Big Beautiful Door

Societal values will have to change. In a world where robots do all the work, money should be obsolete, and everyone will belong to the leisure class.

For that to work, everyone would need a decent education, either in intellectual pursuits or in creative pursuits. As it is now, too many people around the world would have no earthly idea what to do with all that free time. Idle minds and all that.

Considering the USA has a significant minority dedicated to abolishing or crippling public education, I doubt we’d reach such an educational level any time soon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 2, 2016 • 7:05:57pm

re: #61 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Homeskewling!

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 7:08:52pm

re: #61 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

For that to work, everyone would need a decent education, either in intellectual pursuits or in creative pursuits. As it is now, too many people around the world would have no earthly idea what to do with all that free time. Idle minds and all that.

Considering the USA has a significant minority dedicated to abolishing or crippling public education, I doubt we’d reach such an educational level any time soon.

Before we can even reform education, we will need a reformed consensus. Right now Americans cannot find a working definition of societal good. The November election will perhaps show if that is improving, but a 49-48 ‘win’ is a loss.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 2, 2016 • 7:15:26pm

Remember a few days ago I posted a link about how some yahoos from an invite-only auto club got pinched doing over 100 mph in the Twin Cities on I-394?

Seems they got a new angle to play….

Lawyer: Threatening white powder sent to exotic car drivers accused of speeding on I-394

Threats in the form of a suspicious powder have been received by several of the drivers accused of using a west metro interstate for a racetrack recently in exotic sports cars at more than 100 miles per hour, a defense attorney said Monday.

“Several of the individuals have received anonymous packets in the mail containing white powder,” said Marsh Halberg, who is representing at least four of the 12 defendants charged with reckless driving in connection with the high-speed cruise on April 23 along westbound Interstate 394 and continuing after the route changes to Hwy. 12.

“There is a genuine concern for the safety of the individuals at this time,” Halberg said, adding there have been no ill-effects from the contents of the packets.

Halberg said the packets have been turned over to the FBI, which “has been very responsive” as it investigates the items. An FBI spokesman declined to confirm or deny that it’s looking into the matter, a standard response unless the agency is seeking public assistance in an investigation.

There’s been no determination yet on the makeup of the white powder, Halberg said, adding that “I don’t want to speculate on why someone would send the envelopes.”

Perhaps maybe because they’re douchecanoes?

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 7:18:16pm

Have to see what the city council does, but the local Fox station, which comes on at nine so we see them first, said most of the people at the meeting were against the ordinance. A lot of them identified as Republicans, with some of them business people.

There was also an outside protest.

Three hours of hearing from people, the council is getting around to talking about the proposal.

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Charles Johnson  May 2, 2016 • 7:22:27pm

Flickr

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 7:22:32pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Before we can even reform education, we will need a reformed consensus. Right now Americans cannot find a working definition of societal good. The November election will perhaps show if that is improving, but a 49-48 ‘win’ is a loss.

The USA is one of the few countries with a decentralized education system. So, while all students in, say, Malaysia, cover the same material no matter where they live, in the USA, students in rural Kansas may have a very different curriculum than students in suburban St. Louis. Common Core is supposed to address that, without in fact imposing a nationally mandated curriculum, but even CC gets right wingers’ underpants all twisted up. They even get upset with AP courses, which only reach a small fraction of students, because the AP curricula are national in character — imposed by the College Board which owns the AP trademark and can do whatever it likes to preserve the integrity of the program.

Homeschooling takes the decentralization even further. Many states are reluctant to require homeschoolers to follow the state curricula, because Gawd. So, those kids can get a half-assed education if their parents are using Gawd-approved curricula like Abeka.

It’s a forlorn hope that Americans could agree on a uniform curriculum for all students to follow.

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Charles Johnson  May 2, 2016 • 7:23:58pm

Flickr

… is not like the others.
Electron Tubes (valves for my British friends) and power transistor for the Macro Mondays group. HMM.

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Lancelot Link  May 2, 2016 • 7:24:21pm

re: #64 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s doubtful that those people are unfamiliar with certain “white powders”.

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nines09  May 2, 2016 • 7:25:42pm

re: #40 Romantic Heretic

If you just dismiss Trump as who he is, you miss the allure. That is because most here are looking for truth, not what they wish it to be. The same as it ever was is happening. Jobs are lost, industry changes, the rich get rich and the poor get poorer. For Joe Sixpack, it sucks. Big. But most Joes think a mouth like Trump will act on their behalf. 30 years of “Clinton sucks” on AM hate waves, and the rise of Fox and the assorted echos, gives you the picture now in front of you. I grew up in Philly and watched entire neighborhoods walk around shell shocked. Closed. Done. And you with 4 kids, a row house mortgage and no car. You walked or took the trolley, El or bus to and from that paycheck. Gone. Take that and multiply it times over a million. The jobs went from north to south, to Mexico to China, and now to never. Gone. Trump says all that shit. Bring it back. Make it great. Yes. We hear it for what it is. It rings with some. You cannot dismiss it out of hand. For a lot of places, it’s North Philly 1969. Saying all that, I despise Trump with heat of a million suns. That motherfucker has screwed more people than some towns have living in them. The GOP built that stage this jackal stands on, cannot bring themselves to denounce him, cannot offer up anything better than an utter sleaze bag named Ted Cruz, who not only is entirely inedible, he names Carly Fiorina as his sleazebag sidekick. Nice work. Beautiful. Now if the down ticket of this epic clusterfuck either maintains or gains seats, it’s all on the Democrats. For if ever there was a rat ticket, this is IT. So the left, the Bernies, the Liberals, the Progressives better look and look hard. A purity test right now is one more bullet in a chamber of Russian roulette.
EIGHT years of Obama. I hope the future is as bright.
Rant off. I had about 10 years invested in this comment. The words buried me. Not complete. My tongue fails me. Good night.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2016 • 7:27:28pm

Even if you’re not following the #MetGala at least look at @johndrops timeline

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William Lewis  May 2, 2016 • 7:30:20pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

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Love the JJ tubes in my amp.
Love the transistors in my computers.

Appropriate tech :)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 7:34:39pm

re: #70 nines09

Trump offers a significant segment of voters The Easy Answer to everything. They don’t want (or can’t understand) long explanations or nuanced debates about how we got to be where we are today. They want it to end, and Golden Trump will make it happen, just by uttering the words from his mouth. Bomb ISIS. Fuck China. Build a wall. Expel the foreigners. Build cars in America. Make America great again!

The last thing we need now is some other segment of voters getting all butthurt because their Chosen One, Bernie, loses the nomination to a more centrist candidate. In a contest with Trump, Bernie would likely lose. Hillary would likely win. Not voting or spitefully voting for Trump or Stein is selfish and incredibly stupid.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2016 • 7:36:27pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ‎@Green_Footballs

They’re going to quietly pretend they never said #NeverTrump. And they’ll get away with it, too. @HeerJeet

8:50 PM - 2 May 2016

“Some Republican somewhere/sometime: “There was never a stop Trump attempt called #NeverTrump. That is all fiction from the fertile minds of the liberal, New-York-valued media. It is obvious they cooked this whole thing up in order to make Mr. Trump look like a lesser candidate. It is obvious they are scared that Hillary is not capable of taking on America’s Favorite Business Man Reality Show Presidential Candidate. As she should be.

And the entire Republican party will support Mr. Trump as we always support our candidates. We cannot have this country elect Hillary Clinton!”

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2016 • 7:42:56pm

I really don’t see Erik son of Erik or Guns Dana changing their minds & supporting Trump.

If they do, I will suspect blackmail or a million dollar deposit in the Caymans.

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Testy Toad T  May 2, 2016 • 7:45:47pm

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trump offers a significant segment of voters The Easy Answer to everything. They don’t want (or can’t understand) long explanations or nuanced debates about how we got to be where we are today. They want it to end, and Golden Trump will make it happen, just by uttering the words from his mouth. Bomb ISIS. Fuck China. Build a wall. Expel the foreigners. Build cars in America. Make America great again!

Return to Normalcy (one of my favorite moronic phrases from HS civics)

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 7:46:35pm

re: #76 Testy Toad T

Return to Normalcy (one of my favorite moronic phrases from HS civics)

Your civics class misspelled “white supremacy”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 7:47:02pm

Oh hai! Rage Furby is on one of his Social Justice warrior rants again, claiming Intel’s share price declined because it supports SJW causes, or something.

And he’s got some video purporting to be anti-Trump protestors burning an American flag in Burlingame, CA. Anyone in CA know anything about it?

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 7:48:38pm

re: #77 Belafon

Your civics class misspelled “white supremacy”.

They also adopted a neologism coined by a minor (GOP?) president. Until Calvin Coolidge or someone, the going term was “normality”.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2016 • 7:50:10pm

re: #78 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh hai! Rage Furby is on one of his Social Justice warrior rants again, claiming Intel’s share price declined because it supports SJW causes, or something.

And he’s got some video purporting to be anti-Trump protestors burning an American flag in Burlingame, CA. Anyone in CA know anything about it?

Yeah, they did at their protest. It was all over the twitter with the typical OMG

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 7:52:26pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

Yeah, they did at their protest. It was all over the twitter with the typical OMG

So their message was “Come join us as we hate on Trump and America.” That’ll help.

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 7:54:02pm

Yay, Rockwall! The proposal the mayor put forth restricting bathrooms was denied, and the mayor was the only one who supported it.

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 7:54:47pm

re: #82 Belafon

Yay, Rockwall! The proposal the mayor put forth restricting bathrooms was denied, and the mayor was the only one who supported it.

Springsteen’s still not coming.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2016 • 7:57:08pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

They also adopted a neologism coined by a minor (GOP?) president. Until Calvin Coolidge or someone, the term was “normality”.

It was Warren Harding. Harding had his issues; cronyism, womanizing, massive corruption, drunkenness (during Prohibition), but he did support a federal anti-lynching statute that was filibustered to death by Southern senators. He was probably the strongest civil rights president between the two Roosevelts, in fact, possibly the strongest between Grant and FDR.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 7:57:32pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

Yeah, they did at their protest. It was all over the twitter with the typical OMG

Yeah. I’m seeing that now. Rage Furby is saying he’s obtained “exclusive footage” that someone already had posted to YouTube. Someone needs to school him on what exclusive means.

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 8:00:40pm

re: #83 Decatur Deb

Springsteen’s still not coming.

The county of Rockwall is so small, I’m pretty sure a typical concert venue for him wouldn’t fit.

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Decatur Deb  May 2, 2016 • 8:01:49pm

re: #86 Belafon

The county of Rockwall is so small, I’m pretty sure a typical concert venue for him wouldn’t fit.

Bob Dylan once played our Civic Center, and we’ve never figured out why.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2016 • 8:04:26pm

re: #85 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah. I’m seeing that now. Rage Furby is saying he’s obtained “exclusive footage” that someone already had posted to YouTube. Someone needs to school him on what exclusive means.

One of the people who did it was a girl arrested previously during a protest in either Oakland or Sacto, I’m sure he’s named her etc.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 8:12:56pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

One of the people who did it was a girl arrested previously during a protest in either Oakland or Sacto, I’m sure he’s named her etc.

He hasn’t so far. Basically, he just repubbed some guy named Mike Carroll. who posted it on YouTube. Some Muslim girl (well, girl in red headscarf) tells the media to fuck off. Was she the one arrested?

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jaunte  May 2, 2016 • 8:17:42pm

re: #75 Stanley Sea

I really don’t see Erik son of Erik or Guns Dana changing their minds & supporting Trump.

If they do, I will suspect blackmail or a million dollar deposit in the Caymans.

I can see them supporting Trump and giving themselves the excuse that stopping Hillary is the ‘principled’ move.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 8:20:07pm

On a more positive note, here’s an LA Times article about Prince helping African-American youth learn how to code.

latimes.com

Prince supports #YesWeCode

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jaunte  May 2, 2016 • 8:21:30pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 2, 2016 • 8:23:59pm

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

November can’t come soon enough.

Goodnight fellow scaly ones!

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Joe Bacon  May 2, 2016 • 8:24:44pm

re: #18 Eric The Fruit Bat

Don’t forget that Sully was a rabid supporter of “The Bell Curve”.

Yes and that Tacky Tory Twit led the charge against Hillary’s health care proposal. There was no lie that he wouldn’t print in the New Republic to kill that proposal. Meanwhile I think of the thousands who died thanks to asshole like Sully…

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 8:28:46pm

Well, looky here. One Bernard Sanders from North Montpelier, VT was anti-public school once upon a time.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2016 • 8:30:40pm

re: #89 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He hasn’t so far. Basically, he just repubbed some guy named Mike Carroll. who posted it on YouTube. Some Muslim girl (well, girl in red headscarf) tells the media to fuck off. Was she the one arrested?

I don’t remember. It was someone who was arrested & charged with lynching. That was the story then, the old time term for the charge. Not sure what the actual crime was.

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Charles Johnson  May 2, 2016 • 8:41:47pm

Instagram

A woman with a U.S. flag welcomes the U.S. Carnival cruise ship Adonia in Havana bay, Cuba on May 2, 2016. The Adonia is the first vessel to sail from Miami, Fla. to Cuba in half a century, marking a new milestone in the rapprochement between Washington and Havana.

Read more on time.com.

Photograph by @reuters.

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Charles Johnson  May 2, 2016 • 8:42:44pm

Flickr

Another photo of Porthcawl Lighthouse taking a battering.

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 8:49:24pm

re: #95 teleskiguy

Well, looky here. One Bernard Sanders from North Montpelier, VT was anti-public school once upon a time.

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That’s a great thing to save when people talk about Clinton being a “Goldwater Republican.”

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 8:50:14pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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Can anyone think of a Republican that would have pursued normalization with Cuba?

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 8:57:12pm

Just watched a report on the Rockwall ordinance that failed, and they state that our Lt. Governor, Dan Patrick, is thinking about putting up a state bill next session, which would be next year. That will be interesting to watch. The state religion of Texas is business. Business Republicans vs religious Republicans. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out. I actually don’t think it will pass, and I don’t think it will even make it far enough for businesses to have to get involved.

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goddamnedfrank  May 2, 2016 • 9:19:07pm
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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 9:21:46pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

Some National Review flunky found that tweet today. And Trump deleted it this evening. And The Donald™ is a principled deal maker who shoots straight from the hip.

And I fucking hate skiing.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 9:23:39pm

Ah, but the tweet still exists!

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 9:25:04pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

@jimgeraghty is the National Review flunky that “found” this tweet from 2012.

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Belafon  May 2, 2016 • 9:26:04pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

Some National Review flunky found that tweet today. And Trump deleted it this evening. And The Donald™ is a principled deal maker who shoots straight from the hip.

And I fucking hate skiing.

He shoots straight from the hip in the same way that high school kid here in Dallas shot himself in the leg while in class.

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Dark_Falcon  May 2, 2016 • 9:27:39pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

@jimgeraghty is the National Review flunky that “found” this tweet from 2012.

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Jim Geraghty is one of the writers at NR. Not a marquee name but well above a flunky.

/The more you know…

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 9:31:03pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

He’s a flunky who propagates bad ideas who writes for a shit publication whose editorial board is going to do a complete 180 from their stupid Never Trump issue and come out with a Vote Trump Or Hillary Will Kill Us All issue probably this time next month.

Fuck National Review.

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Dark_Falcon  May 2, 2016 • 9:32:03pm

Oh, teleskiguy, one thing I did want to mention in response to your saying you’d use Sports Authority closings to buy another pair of skis, even though you don’t need them:

There’s nothing wrong with being a collector. Some people collect stamps, others cars, still others books. You happen to like collecting skis.

Just my 2 cents.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  May 2, 2016 • 9:33:49pm

re: #18 Eric The Fruit Bat

re: #22 Charles Johnson

re: #94 Joe Bacon

That tacky Tory Twit was also a supporter of President Obama from almost the moment he announced his campaign. He renounced the right long before Charles did.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 9:38:10pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Ah, I said somewhere that I have five pairs of functioning skis. I have a garage where one whole wall is skis. If I had to guess, there’s over 20 pairs out there, from slalom World Cup race stock to the first twin tip skis (dating to late 90s), K2s, Dynastars, Rossignols, Scotts, Armadas, to name a few companies. It’ll take a few more years (10? 20?), but I’ll have enough skis to make a nice fence someday.

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blueraven  May 2, 2016 • 9:40:58pm

re: #110 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

That tacky Tory Twit was also a supporter of President Obama from almost the moment he announced his campaign. He renounced the right long before Charles did.

Sully has always had a penchant for hyperventilating. I think he is a good writer, but I don’t think he “gets” America.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 9:44:53pm

I wish I hadn’t got rid of all my straight skis. My Olins, Volkls, and Wolfs. My all-mountain ski that I used when I was a teenager when I wasn’t racing was a 207 Wolf Makwai ski with Marker MRR 18 din bindings. I sold them (and an old pair of Dynastar 180 slalom skis) so I could buy the Salomon 1080, the worlds first twin-tip ski. I remember when I bought them, I thought I had made a mistake. They were so short (191 cm, which is *long* these days).

I still have those 1080s, and it’s always funny to see the looks on the young’uns faces when I show them those skis. “Yes, they’ve been making twin tip skis for almost 20 years…”

Here, have a skiing picture.

Flickr

via Instagram www.instagram.com/p/_Ht6STh28Y/

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whitebeach  May 2, 2016 • 9:52:09pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

I love almost all of the images you’ve put up, but this one clanks. I hate overfiltering, especially orange overfiltering. This thing pretends to be at sunset or (possibly) sunrise, but even a cursory glance at the shadows and lighting, particularly on the clouds, shows that it was shot probably late morning or early afternoon. In short, it’s not what it purports to be.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 9:52:20pm

wheatdogg keeps up the thankless work of making UpChuck look like an utter fool with gotnwes.com.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 10:00:33pm

re: #115 teleskiguy

wheatdogg keeps up the thankless work of making UpChuck look like an utter fool with gotnwes.com.

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Honestly, I see trouble ahead for him if anyone follows his lame-brained advice and loses money.

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VaughnIAM  May 2, 2016 • 10:08:01pm

re: #18 Eric The Fruit Bat

That post Sullivan did on ” The Bell Curve ” is the last time I read anything of his.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 10:12:13pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

It’s hard to express how earth-shaking this event is, especially for Cubans. Cruise lines and travel agencies will be making bank, as well.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 10:12:31pm

re: #117 VaughnIAM

That post Sullivan did on ” The Bell Curve ” is the last time I read anything of his.

Second post ever at LGF.

Hey d’ere!

Sullivan is a good writer, I’ll give him that. But his overt Tory schtick in the United States definitely rubs me the wrong way. And him calling Black Lives Matter a “neo-Marxist” movement is fucking disgusting.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2016 • 10:12:47pm

Saw this on Facebook. It will break your heart, as it broke mine. I know people there. Should say I knew: many have died. As always, don’t read the comments.

Facebook Video

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Sherlock Hound  May 2, 2016 • 10:13:08pm

re: #114 whitebeach

I’d assume it’s intended to depict a sunset, but from the implied sun angle (blocked by the pier), I place it at 2 or 3 PM, 4 PM the very latest. It does not get orangey (at my northern latitude) until an hour before sunset (and until one hour after sunrise).

I’ve never been south, but I understand the twilights are even shorter there.

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Teukka  May 2, 2016 • 10:13:22pm

re: #120 retired cynic

Saw this on Facebook. It will break your heart, as it broke mine. I know people there. Should say I knew: many have died. As always, don’t read the comments.

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Rightwing hatefest?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 10:18:49pm

re: #121 Sherlock Hound

I’d assume it’s intended to depict a sunset, but from the implied sun angle (blocked by the pier), I place it at 2 or 3 PM, 4 PM the very latest. It does not get orangey (at my northern latitude) until an hour before sunset (and until one hour after sunrise).

I’ve never been south, but I understand the twilights are even shorter there.

Like 15 minutes at most. I was surprised at how quick night came in Malaysia. You blink, and it’s dark outside.

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Kragar  May 2, 2016 • 10:19:47pm
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retired cynic  May 2, 2016 • 10:25:27pm

re: #122 Teukka

Rightwing hatefest?

Yes, basically. World wide discussion. Send ‘em to other Middle Eastern and north African countries; keep ‘em out of Europe and for sure out of here. Sigh.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 10:27:49pm

Radiohead has erased most/if not all of its online social media posts across all platforms. This is the only post on their Instagram, posted about a half hour ago.

Instagram

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 10:37:25pm

This is what it looked like 25 miles from my twenty in 1970. This was 10 years before Beaver Creek ski area opened for business (which is in the upper right of this photo), 12 years before I was born.

Facebook Post

It don’t look like that more, I’ll tell you that.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 10:43:47pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

This is a rather profound picture for me to look at. I’ve spent most of my life in this valley. An aerial photo from 1970? Fuckin’ aye.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 10:50:40pm

wrenchwench, this is for you

bbc.com

This rider only had a few bumps and bruises, and the driver that hit him was way nicer than yours.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 11:01:58pm

The BBC joins a delegation of Nobel prize winners and the crown prince of Liechtenstein on a tour of North Korea. One stop is a children’s hospital in Pyongyang, where they find healthy-looking kids on exercise equipment and people in white lab coats pretending to be doctors.

One of our Nobel laureates, Aaron Ciechanover from Israel, is a medical doctor. He wants to ask the doctors here about childhood cancer treatment. The white-robed staff look confused. Prince Albert of Lichtenstein is starting to have his suspicions.

“I don’t think these are real doctors,” he tells the interpreter. “Can we find some real doctors for the Nobel laureates to talk to?”

bbc.com

This is a common North Korean sham. The only people whom foreigners can meet are specially selected and carefully trained Party members, under tightly controlled circumstances.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 11:07:09pm

re: #110 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

That tacky Tory Twit was also a supporter of President Obama from almost the moment he announced his campaign. He renounced the right long before Charles did.

I’m not sure the timeline. Both Charles and Andrew had their breaks with the right around 2008 or so. It’s like debating who released the first double LP album in 1966, Frank Zappa or Bob Dylan? We’ll probably never really know for sure, too many details.

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whitebeach  May 2, 2016 • 11:13:30pm

re: #121 Sherlock Hound

I’d assume it’s intended to depict a sunset, but from the implied sun angle (blocked by the pier), I place it at 2 or 3 PM, 4 PM the very latest. It does not get orangey (at my northern latitude) until an hour before sunset (and until one hour after sunrise).

I’ve never been south, but I understand the twilights are even shorter there.

Good points on color temperature, but “implied sun angle” is perhaps the key phrase. I don’t think the sun is blocked by the structure. That’s simply the illusion created by the graduated filtration, obviously lighter at the center of the image. But the highlights and shadows seem to me to tell the real story. If the sun were really hidden by the bridge or pier or whatever, the clouds would be illuminated from below, and the shadows of the pier pilings would be long. Instead, the clouds seem obviously to be lighted from above (and maybe to the right), while the piling shadows are short.

Sorry to go on about such a trivial thing, but this kind of photoforensics has always fascinated me. Maybe some of the several other photographically expert lizards can weigh in on it.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2016 • 11:24:35pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

Radiohead has erased most/if not all of its online social media posts across all platforms. This is the only post on their Instagram, posted about a half hour ago.

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I read about that this morning. Those guys are weird. My guess is when the new album drops they’ll come back with a brand new site.

In other news… can’t sleep, working on lyrics for a new song. It’s pretty wordy, so I’m doing searches consisting of ‘rhymes with ____.’ I found this one pretty amusing.

Nothing is the new Orange.
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 11:30:19pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

The vacuum tube in the middle is an amplifier, 12AT7, used in guitar amps. The designations on the other two are not so clear. The left one may be a 12AX7, another amplifier used in guitar amp.

Century-old tech still being used today.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 2, 2016 • 11:32:18pm

And now it’s time for class.

Everyone, open your books to page 57!

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2016 • 11:57:33pm

Blast from the past! Tweeted by me seven six months ago.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 3:01:11am

Way overdue, in my opinion.

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Teukka  May 3, 2016 • 3:13:47am

Extreme Heat Will Make Parts Of The Middle East And Africa Uninhabitable By 2050

New research shows that temperatures are set to skyrocket in parts of the Middle East and Africa, making human habitation next to impossible. In a region that’s home to 500 million people, that could trigger a climate-exodus of epic proportions.

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Timothy Watson  May 3, 2016 • 3:15:30am

If you fell for this, you’ve a freakin’ moron and no one should have to apologize to you:
inquisitr.com

(Game of Thrones spoilers at link)

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 3:20:38am

re: #138 Teukka

Selfie Taking 101: When posing with a pistol, do not confuse the button on your camera phone with the trigger on your gun

That’s happened a bunch of times now. Hold phone in one hand, gun in dominant hand. Brain tells finger to press button. Guess which finger responds?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 3:23:26am

re: #133 makeitstop

I read about that this morning. Those guys are weird. My guess is when the new album drops they’ll come back with a brand new site.

In other news… can’t sleep, working on lyrics for a new song. It’s pretty wordy, so I’m doing searches consisting of ‘rhymes with ____.’ I found this one pretty amusing.

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Frothing
(like Santorum)

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Ming5000  May 3, 2016 • 3:25:48am

re: #124 Kragar

From the link:

The infamous Koch brothers are focusing their attention on the House and Senate while Sen. Sanders’ campaign is becoming more like a cult of personality. He has done little to support the Democrat Party and his continuing in this campaign will offer not an iota of support to candidates trying to overturn the Republican control of the House and Senate.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 3:27:32am

re: #133 makeitstop

I read about that this morning. Those guys are weird. My guess is when the new album drops they’ll come back with a brand new site.

In other news… can’t sleep, working on lyrics for a new song. It’s pretty wordy, so I’m doing searches consisting of ‘rhymes with ____.’ I found this one pretty amusing.

[Embedded content]

Great….thanks for the Billy Preston earworm.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 3:28:07am

Billy Preston - Nothing From Nothing (1974)

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Ming5000  May 3, 2016 • 3:28:45am

re: #130 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This is a common North Korean sham. The only people whom foreigners can meet are specially selected and carefully trained Party members, under tightly controlled circumstances.

Sorry, but what did they expect? Probably one of them will be arrested and sentenced to 15 years hard labor for stealing an ash tray or something.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 3:31:33am
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Ming5000  May 3, 2016 • 3:44:25am

It is 2016 people!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 4:38:05am
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Franklin  May 3, 2016 • 4:49:30am

I am just now watching the Larry Wilmore roast at the WHCD. I can’t stop laughing. Wow this is good!

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Kent Dorfman  May 3, 2016 • 4:49:53am

The historic Manhattan cathedral that was gutted in a massive fire was one of four Christian Orthodox churches to go up in flames on Orthodox Easter Sunday — sparking fears of a coordinated attack on the religion.

nypost.com

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2016 • 4:54:38am

The butthurt, spurned lover still stalking his ex…

Facebook Post

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Dave In Austin  May 3, 2016 • 4:59:42am

re: #152 Dr. Matt

The butthurt, spurned lover still stalking his ex…

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And drinking heavily……

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Kent Dorfman  May 3, 2016 • 4:59:50am

Solar plane lands in Arizona, very impressive! I don’t know why, but I found this quote funny:

“I’m heating up water for coffee,” Borschberg told his ground crew. “A nice Nescafe.”

More here

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Kent Dorfman  May 3, 2016 • 5:02:00am

re: #154 Kent Dorfman

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Alyosha  May 3, 2016 • 5:26:53am

Definitely going to use this.

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Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2016 • 5:36:54am

re: #151 Kent Dorfman

The historic Manhattan cathedral that was gutted in a massive fire was one of four Christian Orthodox churches to go up in flames on Orthodox Easter Sunday — sparking fears of a coordinated attack on the religion.

nypost.com

Its also possible that the developer who the cathedral was fighting with heard about the fires at those other Orthodox churches and decided to have some goons advance his cause via arson.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2016 • 5:45:24am

oVFCO3zHxkVs0WRbD4mCCXUsebsS3MZOPbfeDye8k24nOWqvzZJhVz6sgAkWnzcuklsh9EN7zMCNmpIas46SaBgiVYqlzq2HDoAcLBcj/WW3diy3YJ6HBio2x2+eLFX74u29abgSfmWvKet9H99jL79emHPeZ0schZAWAidqM70W9b+Esr8IRvsuISqXo6WQstwKQzh7oYblDHiQtvAk0sDrU83Gs1bCW1HRIF7Hu020gi0Rnl4+bw==

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Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2016 • 5:46:58am

re: #158 Dr. Matt

No money in the budget for that this month, I’m afraid.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2016 • 5:52:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 5:55:39am

BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!

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Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2016 • 5:57:32am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve heard about this piece of BS before. Its pure conspiracist hogwash.

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Timothy Watson  May 3, 2016 • 5:59:11am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!

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The moonbat/sovereign citizen convergence zone?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 5:59:37am

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

I’ve heard about this piece of BS before. Its pure conspiracist hogwash.

I know…the Wiki page for NESARA is hilarious.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:15:54am

re: #148 Ming5000

It is 2016 people!

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Endorsed by Jesus’ penis.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:20:21am

If only he could remember what the number was…they’d have all that info…minus some text messages.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:21:58am

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

I’ve heard about this piece of BS before. Its pure conspiracist hogwash.

Hey DF! Ready to make America great again?

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 6:23:22am

Interesting new font. Anyway, what are the odds that Cruz suspends his campaign tomorrow, or instead keeps dutifully slogging onward to defeat? I’m starting the odds at 50-50.

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Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2016 • 6:23:23am

re: #167 darthstar

GAZE

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:26:41am

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

GAZE

Chin up, man! You think I’m thrilled with my candidate? But when it’s a choice between someone you can’t stomach and someone you don’t trust you go with the person you don’t trust because you’re an idiot if you trust politicians anyway. We’ll be fine with a President Clinton…we survived George Bush for eight years.

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Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2016 • 6:27:05am

If Daesh wants to run supplies in to their forces in Benghazi they’re gonna need a bigger boat:

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:28:26am

re: #168 Big Beautiful Door

Interesting new font. Anyway, what are the odds that Cruz suspends his campaign tomorrow, or instead keeps dutifully slogging onward to defeat? I’m starting the odds at 50-50.

He’ll stay in until the convention because he’s got a hard on for doing whatever is worst for his party it would seem…and he’s a fucking zealot.. Fucking zealots don’t quit. They need to be rejected.

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Timothy Watson  May 3, 2016 • 6:31:15am

re: #172 darthstar

He’ll stay in until the convention because he’s got a hard on for doing whatever is worst for his party it would seem…and he’s a fucking zealot.. Fucking zealots don’t quit. They need to be rejected.

He’s on a mission from God, you don’t expect him to quit do you?

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:35:03am

re: #173 Timothy Watson

He’s on a mission from God, you don’t expect him to quit do you?

Oh,, hell no. And now there’s this! Jesus, these people are all fucked in the head.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:36:47am
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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:39:03am

One of these days Trump will say something some people consider inappropriate and it will hurt him in the polls.

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Decatur Deb  May 3, 2016 • 6:40:09am

re: #170 darthstar

(snip)…we survived George Bush for eight years.

Still waiting to hear from the toxicology lab on that.

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Timothy Watson  May 3, 2016 • 6:40:14am

re: #176 darthstar

One of these days Trump will say something some people consider inappropriate and it will hurt him in the polls.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Funny one.

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Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2016 • 6:41:09am

re: #175 darthstar

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It’s a classic ‘late hit’, timed so that Cruz can’t effectively refute it before voters head to the poles.

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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 6:41:25am

Good morning Lizards.

How did that bold move of Cruz work out?

Sixty percent have no opinion on Fiorina’s addition to Cruz’s ticket or think it has “no impact” in a Morning Consult survey released early Tuesday.

Twenty two percent say they are “less likely” to vote for Cruz because of the former Hewlett-Packard CEO.
Only 18 percent, meanwhile, say Fiorina makes them “more likely” to cast ballots for the Texas senator.

thehill.com

Who da thunk?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 6:42:05am

re: #168 Big Beautiful Door

Interesting new font. Anyway, what are the odds that Cruz suspends his campaign tomorrow, or instead keeps dutifully slogging onward to defeat? I’m starting the odds at 50-50.

yeah I think Cruz stays in the race beyond Indiana. At least for a few days. I don’t think we’ll see a Rubio-style suspension speech right after the polls close.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 6:43:28am

re: #172 darthstar

He’ll stay in until the convention because he’s got a hard on for doing whatever is worst for his party it would seem…and he’s a fucking zealot.. Fucking zealots don’t quit. They need to be rejected.

I think Cruz is more cynical and ambitious than that. He will be a good soldier and endorse Trump soon, keeping his eye on winning the nomination in 2020.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:44:34am

re: #179 Dark_Falcon

It’s a classic ‘late hit’, timed so that Cruz can’t effectively refute it before voters head to the poles.

Refute it? It’s so far out of bounds responding to it will be even more embarrassing than reading about it. This is Trump saying, “I know I have Indiana, and the nomination, in the bag, so here’s a final rat-fucking before I go.”

Pure, unadulterated, asshole remark. Even I’m offended and I fucking hate Cruz.

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darthstar  May 3, 2016 • 6:45:42am

re: #182 Big Beautiful Door

I think Cruz is more cynical and ambitious than that. He will be a good soldier and endorse Trump soon, keeping his eye on winning the nomination in 2020.

“I’d like to just say that I’ve always considered Donald a friend and I probably shouldn’t have confided in him that my dad conspired to kill JFK…”

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 6:45:44am

re: #176 darthstar

One of these days Trump will say something some people consider inappropriate and it will hurt him in the polls.

Bwahahaaha!

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 6:45:52am
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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 6:46:14am

re: #176 darthstar

One of these days Trump will say something some people consider inappropriate and it will hurt him in the polls.

The only thing he could say that would hurt him in the polls is if he said something mean about old, fat, white guys.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 6:49:07am

Trump somehow links Cruz to the JFK assassination? Really? The GOP is going to go with a guy more comfortable peddling conspiracy theories than being reality based?

Figures. The GOP has spent years denying reality - whether it’s that Obama hasn’t destroyed capitalism or the country or health care or the energy industry, so they’ve decided that conspiracy mongering assholes are preferable to guys who don’t openly flog conspiracies (or are the target of said conspiracies).

The GOP prefers siding with conspiracy mongers than their marks.

I wonder how that’ll translate to the general election, where Hillary has been the focus of nonstop conspiracy mongering for 20+ years. Think she’ll handle this a whole lot better than anyone else.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 6:49:14am

re: #174 darthstar

Oh,, hell no. And now there’s this! Jesus, these people are all fucked in the head.

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This does complicate Cruz endorsing Trump. Cruz will do it anyway, for party unity.

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jeffreyw  May 3, 2016 • 6:49:59am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  May 3, 2016 • 6:50:41am

re: #189 Big Beautiful Door

This does complicate Cruz endorsing Trump. Cruz will do it anyway, for party unity.

On the other hand, it assures Cruz re-election to the Senate from Texas.

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sagehen  May 3, 2016 • 6:50:59am

re: #131 teleskiguy

I’m not sure the timeline. Both Charles and Andrew had their breaks with the right around 2008 or so. It’s like debating who released the first double LP album in 1966, Frank Zappa or Bob Dylan? We’ll probably never really know for sure, too many details.

It’s easy to know for sure.

For Sully, Sarah Palin was the breaking point. Remember his obsession about “Trig’s real mother”?

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Timothy Watson  May 3, 2016 • 6:51:30am

re: #188 lawhawk

Trump somehow links Cruz to the JFK assassination? Really? The GOP is going to go with a guy more comfortable peddling conspiracy theories than being reality based?

Figures. The GOP has spent years denying reality - whether it’s that Obama hasn’t destroyed capitalism or the country or health care or the energy industry, so they’ve decided that conspiracy mongering assholes are preferable to guys who don’t openly flog conspiracies (or are the target of said conspiracies).

The GOP prefers siding with conspiracy mongers than their marks.

I wonder how that’ll translate to the general election, where Hillary has been the focus of nonstop conspiracy mongering for 20+ years. Think she’ll handle this a whole lot better than anyone else.

Conspiracy theories and the GOP are nothing new. War on Christmas, Vince Foster, anything involving Obama, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 6:52:59am

There was a discussion about work & labor earlier.

Remember: there is labor as a commodity to be bought and sold and there is the concept of work and employment as a social and moral benefit.

Where is the “dignity of labor” if a worker’s wages are not enough to feed, clothe and educate a family towards a better life?

Instead, we have workers put on the same level as staples, toner or copier paper, something to be economized and rationalized and disposed of once used.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 6:54:44am

Snopes had something about the Cruz/Oswald/JFK thing last month.
snopes.com

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Belafon  May 3, 2016 • 6:56:06am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Instead, we have workers put on the same level as staples, toner or copier paper, something to be economized and rationalized and disposed of once used.

In other words, capitalism. Which is why workers should never be considered part of capitalism. The price of their labor should be part of it, but not the existence and right to live of people.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 3, 2016 • 6:56:29am

re: #186 lawhawk

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 6:56:45am

re: #152 Dr. Matt

The butthurt, spurned lover still stalking his ex…

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Rage Furby is seriously near-sighted. His glasses do the same warping that mine do.

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2016 • 7:00:49am

re: #183 darthstar

Refute it? It’s so far out of bounds responding to it will be even more embarrassing than reading about it. This is Trump saying, “I know I have Indiana, and the nomination, in the bag, so here’s a final rat-fucking before I go.”

Pure, unadulterated, asshole remark. Even I’m offended and I fucking hate Cruz.

I agree, but this is also the time when MSNBC and CNN could show some moral character and not simply….

I’m sorry. I’ve forgotten the age we live in.

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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 7:01:29am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Snopes had something about the Cruz/Oswald/JFK thing last month.
snopes.com

That’s proof enough for me.

Guilty!
//

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 7:02:31am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a discussion about work & labor earlier.

Remember: there is labor as a commodity to be bought and sold and there is the concept of work and employment as a social and moral benefit.

Where is the “dignity of labor” if a worker’s wages are not enough to feed, clothe and educate a family towards a better life?

Instead, we have workers put on the same level as staples, toner or copier paper, something to be economized and rationalized and disposed of once used.

Another reason to support a universal basic income. We need to make it possible, as growing wealth and automation renders labor less central to our lives, to enable people to have rewarding, fulfilling lives.

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sagehen  May 3, 2016 • 7:03:17am

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Its also possible that the developer who the cathedral was fighting with heard about the fires at those other Orthodox churches and decided to have some goons advance his cause via arson.

They all happened at the same time.

But I suppose it’s possible the NY developer paid to have the ones in Serbia, Australia and Russia all torched at the same time to misdirect that the NY one was the motive.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 7:04:21am

re: #200 b.d.

That’s proof enough for me.

Guilty!
//

The photos raise questions, which need answers. When did Rafael Cruz find out Oswald was going to assassinate the President, and how involved in the conspiracy was he?//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 7:04:54am
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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 7:06:35am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Pauls offer tantalizing glimmers of rationality between the bouts of insanity.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 7:06:49am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lol

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2016 • 7:07:15am

re: #188 lawhawk

Trump’s pal who owns the National Enquirer ran a story a couple of weeks ago with a pic of Oswald and a guy they claimed was Cruz’s dad.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 7:07:50am

re: #202 sagehen

It is sad, especially for those members of the congregation to watch their church go up in flames, but fires happen in churches all the time. Often, it’s the result of unattended candles, but sometimes it’s electrical in nature.

Not surprising there’s a spate of fires around holiday periods - it’s when more people are in the building. So far, there’s no indication from the FDNY that arson played a role, though they will investigate to determine the source.

People will try to link disparate bits of information together (how conspiracies start), even though there’s no actual evidence.

I see it as no different than starting a conspiracy claiming that the fire at St. John the Divine in December 2001 was part of the war on Christianity, even though it was due to electrical problems in a church gift shop. Proximity to 9/11 and the Flight 587 crash would lend to link, but reality suggests otherwise.

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Franklin  May 3, 2016 • 7:08:41am

re: #207 Skip Intro

Trump’s pal who owns the National Enquirer ran a story a couple of weeks ago with a pic of Oswald and a guy they claimed was Cruz’s dad.

Reagan had Nancy’s astrologist for guidance, The Donald will have the Natn’l Enquirer.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 7:09:12am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Decatur Deb  May 3, 2016 • 7:10:03am

re: #208 lawhawk

It is sad, especially for those members of the congregation to watch their church go up in flames, but fires happen in churches all the time. Often, it’s the result of unattended candles, but sometimes it’s electrical in nature.

Not surprising there’s a spate of fires around holiday periods - it’s when more people are in the building. So far, there’s no indication from the FDNY that arson played a role, though they will investigate to determine the source.

People will try to link disparate bits of information together (how conspiracies start), even though there’s no actual evidence.

I see it as no different than starting a conspiracy claiming that the fire at St. John the Divine in December 2001 was part of the war on Christianity, even though it was due to electrical problems in a church gift shop. Proximity to 9/11 and the Flight 587 crash would lend to link, but reality suggests otherwise.

NYPD arson investigators have a top-tier reputation. When our PX burned in Italy, the Army contracted with them to do the investigation.

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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 7:12:23am

re: #203 Big Beautiful Door

The photos raise questions, which need answers. When did Rafael Cruz find out Oswald was going to assassinate the President, and how involved in the conspiracy was he?//

His denials of not being involved at all and mistaken identity are quite worrisome.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 7:13:25am

re: #203 Big Beautiful Door

The photos raise questions, which need answers. When did Rafael Cruz find out Oswald was going to assassinate the President, and how involved in the conspiracy was he?//

Americans died and we need answers!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2016 • 7:15:00am

re: #202 sagehen

They all happened at the same time.

But I suppose it’s possible the NY developer paid to have the ones in Serbia, Australia and Russia all torched at the same time to misdirect that the NY one was the motive.

They were all full of lighted candles in an environment soaked with oil. What could go wrong?

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2016 • 7:15:21am

re: #175 darthstar

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I just heard it replayed on CNN & his surrogate, Scottie Nell Hughes (the bad yellow dress one) just basically said Cruz started it.

Trump is crazy.

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Decatur Deb  May 3, 2016 • 7:16:19am

re: #215 Stanley Sea

snip…
Trump is crazy.

Let’s let Free Republic decide.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 7:18:12am

re: #215 Stanley Sea

I just heard it replayed on CNN & his surrogate, Scottie Nell Hughes (the bad yellow dress one) just basically said Cruz started it.

Trump is crazy.

Which is why he will be the GOP nominee.

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2016 • 7:19:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 7:20:53am

re: #217 Big Beautiful Door

Which is why he will be the GOP nominee.

The party of crazy.

The party of stupid.

The party of bigotry.

The party of Xenophobia.

The party of American exceptionalism

Which other candidate fits the bill more perfectly?

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2016 • 7:20:59am

I immediately got a barrage of tweets from white supremacists after that.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 7:21:46am

Indonesian fishermen find an inflatable sex doll adrift at sea, mistake it for an angel, and bring it home to care for it, including dressing it, complete with hijab.

bbc.com

Authorities took it away.

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Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2016 • 7:24:07am

re: #220 Charles Johnson

I immediately got a barrage of tweets from white supremacists after that.

The Nazi FLaK is always heaviest over the target.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2016 • 7:25:16am

re: #172 darthstar

He’ll stay in until the convention because he’s got a hard on for doing whatever is worst for his party it would seem…and he’s a fucking zealot.. Fucking zealots don’t quit. They need to be rejected.

Coming to grips with Bernie are you?

(runs and hides…)

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 7:25:31am

re: #220 Charles Johnson

Sadly, not surprising. Twitter block on semi-auto?

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 7:26:00am

Heh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 7:28:15am

re: #225 lawhawk

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Heh.

double heh:

Facebook Post

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 7:28:25am

re: #223 ObserverArt

Coming to grips with Bernie are you?

(runs and hides…)

Now, now. BS has shown that there is a sizable chunk of America that rejects the 1% economy and wants to enact reforms that make our system work for everyone’s benefit, not just investors.

That is an admirable accomplishment, almost enough to make me overlook the most annoying aspects of his campaign.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 7:29:22am

re: #225 lawhawk

Heh.

I won’t be IGNORED!!!!!11

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Belafon  May 3, 2016 • 7:29:51am

My favorite protest sign from the attempt here in Rockwall to regulate who goes into which bathroom: Don’t North Carolina my Texas.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 7:30:17am

re: #225 lawhawk

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Heh.

Trump will give him a 2:00 a.m. Speaking slot at the Convention.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 7:30:58am

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

double heh:
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I think he will fit in perfectly.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2016 • 7:34:42am

Yeah, I’d watch that…

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2016 • 7:34:50am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Now, now. BS has shown that there is a sizable chunk of America that rejects the 1% economy and wants to enact reforms that make our system work for everyone’s benefit, not just investors.

That is an admirable accomplishment, almost enough to make me overlook the most annoying aspects of his campaign.

Awwww…Imma just poking Darth. He left a hanging change up…middle of the plate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 7:35:17am

Detroit residents face a growing crisis over basic services nearly three years after the city’s record-setting bankruptcy. Detroit is expected to turn off water service to thousands of households Tuesday, and for a second straight day, nearly all public schools could be shut by teachers calling in sick in a wage dispute. Dean Reynolds reports from Detroit.

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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 7:36:37am

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

double heh:
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Didn’t Chuck used to claim that he wasn’t a republican?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 7:37:57am

Bubba is near my neighborhood this morning.

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Jenner7  May 3, 2016 • 7:38:06am

Morning, Lizards.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 7:40:07am

re: #232 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, I’d watch that…

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Rather than campaigning, future nominees will spend three months together in a Big Brother house, with the Presidency determined by viewers calling, texting or clicking in their votes on their cell phone apps.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 3, 2016 • 7:41:25am

Concealed carry gun-wielder intervenes in domestic dispute and shot dead in Texas

As the number of states allowing people to carry guns has increased, reports of injuries and deaths have also risen.

Just last week, a churchgoer in Pennsylvania — in possession of a concealed carry permit and a some sort of badge to prove it — intervened in an already settled spat between congregation members over reserved church seating. The man, Mark Storms, approached Robert Braxton, showed him a gun on his belt and a gold badge, then asked him to leave, reported the Associated Press. Braxton threw a punch, then Storms fired two shots, killing the man.

Storms was charged with voluntary manslaughter, the AP reported.

Last fall, a Detroit woman with a concealed carry permit fired at a fleeing shoplifter outside a Home Depot. She was later sentenced to 18 months of probation and stripped of her concealed gun permit. She told a TV station that she “will never help anybody again.”

Around that same time, a customer at a Southside Chicago bodega fired at a robbery suspect wearing a mask and brandishing what looked like a real gun. It wasn’t, but the shots fired by the customer, a concealed carry permit holder, killed the robbery suspect. Soon after, police announced that charges against the customer were unlikely.

On Monday, a new Tennessee law was passed allowing full-time employees at the state’s public colleges and universities to carry handguns on campus.

Since 2007, the number of Americans holding concealed carry permits has nearly tripled, rising from 4.6 million to 12.8 million in 2015.

Naturally, the real good stuff is always buried near the bottom….

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Franklin  May 3, 2016 • 7:41:57am

re: #232 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, I’d watch that…

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Nah, they already remade the Odd Couple with Chandler from Friends.

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Decatur Deb  May 3, 2016 • 7:43:41am

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Indonesian fishermen find an inflatable sex doll adrift at sea, mistake it for an angel, and bring it home to care for it, including dressing it, complete with hijab.

bbc.com

Authorities took it away.

Lot of heartbreak in that story.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2016 • 7:50:31am

Trump: Military leaders shouldn’t talk to the press

If he becomes commander in chief, Donald Trump won’t let military generals speak to “the dishonest press,” out of fear they’ll spill national security secrets.

“A general should not be on television,” the Republican front-runner told a crowd of supporters during a rally at Carmel, Indiana, on Monday. “I don’t want our generals on television. I will prohibit them.

“I don’t want them saying things like ‘our nation has never been so ill-prepared.’ Even though it’s true, I don’t want the enemy knowing that.”

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Belafon  May 3, 2016 • 7:52:57am

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

“I don’t want them saying things like ‘our nation has never been so ill-prepared.’ Even though it’s true, I don’t want the enemy knowing that.”

I like the subtle swipe: “Even though it’s true.” I’m assuming Trump will keep himself from talking to the press as well.

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Timothy Watson  May 3, 2016 • 7:55:03am

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

“I don’t want them saying things like ‘our nation has never been so ill-prepared.’ Even though it’s true, I don’t want the enemy knowing that.”

Uh…hasn’t his whole campaign been doing exactly that?

Christ, the GOP and conservatism is the personification of projection.

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Jay C  May 3, 2016 • 7:58:21am

re: #237 Jenner7

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Morning, Lizards.

Isn’t it still a bit too early for “Hillary’s running mate” speculation??

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 8:01:48am

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

If he becomes commander in chief, Donald Trump won’t let military generals speak to “the dishonest press,” out of fear they’ll spill national security secrets.

This should work out well.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 8:04:26am
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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2016 • 8:05:32am

re: #245 Jay C

Isn’t it still a bit too early for “Hillary’s running mate” speculation??

You mean in the morning?

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 8:15:29am
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ObserverArt  May 3, 2016 • 8:15:55am

Trump will make his government completely off-limits to the public and he will place gag orders on everyone in it.

Transparency? I don’t think so.

This guy is a power monger. It is no wonder why he likes Putin so damn much he wants to emulate him.

He would be the worst thing that could happen to this country, and people that should know better will march right into the voting booth and push the button for Trump because they are party people.

This is how bad things in history happen. Right in front of everyone…knowingly.

Warning America - DANGER - proceed with extreme caution around Donald Trump.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 8:20:06am

re: #250 ObserverArt

Trump will make his government completely off-limits to the public and he will place gag orders on everyone in it.

Transparency? I don’t think so.

This guy is a power monger. It is no wonder why he likes Putin so damn much he wants to emulate him.

He would be the worst thing that could happen to this country, and people that should know better will march right into the voting booth and push the button for Trump because they are party people.

This is how bad things in history happen. Right in front of everyone…knowingly.

Warning America - DANGER - proceed with extreme caution around Donald Trump.

Were very mad at Obama for illegal executive orders and all kinds of corruption, and not turning over emails and documents to congress and, why yes of course were voting for Trump!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 8:26:15am

re: #251 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Were very mad at Obama for illegal executive orders and all kinds of corruption, and not turning over emails and documents to congress and, why yes of course were voting for Trump!

Obama is a tyrant. That’s why we want Trump!

Also, he’s white.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 8:30:08am

For Radiohead fans, a new song has dropped:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 8:30:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 8:33:06am
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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 8:37:42am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

American Exceptionalism. We are exceptional at killing fellow Americans with firearms and doing nothing to reduce firearms deaths by reasonable means.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 8:38:55am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The ghost of Carrie Nation weeps.

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Belafon  May 3, 2016 • 8:39:53am

re: #256 lawhawk

American Exceptionalism. We are exceptional at killing fellow Americans with firearms and doing nothing to reduce firearms deaths by reasonable means.

Maybe we should call it American Acceptionalism.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 3, 2016 • 8:43:23am

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

Trump: Military leaders shouldn’t talk to the press

Imagine if Obama had such a policy.

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Eventual Carrion  May 3, 2016 • 8:45:18am

re: #148 Ming5000

It is 2016 people!

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Solomon/Jeroboam 2016

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Belafon  May 3, 2016 • 8:46:24am

re: #259 GlutenFreeJesus

Imagine if Obama had such a policy.

That’s pretty much existing policy. When I was in the Navy, I was told that if any reporter wanted to talk to me as a sailor, I was to refuse to talk. Note that you really don’t hear much from any military person outside of press people.

This was just an excuse for Trump to declare that we’re poorly prepared. The strongest military in the world.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 8:47:00am

Christian Cruz fan:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 8:47:06am

re: #259 GlutenFreeJesus

Imagine if Obama had such a policy.

It would be the most un-American, tyrannical thing ever.

/

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 3, 2016 • 8:47:37am

re: #258 Belafon

Maybe we should call it American Acceptionalism.

Accept agrees!

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Der Flohgeisteffekt  May 3, 2016 • 8:47:53am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

Whine Cellar, he means.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 8:48:07am

re: #264 GlutenFreeJesus

Accept agrees!

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Balls to the Wall

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Franklin  May 3, 2016 • 8:49:54am

re: #266 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Balls to the Wall

The wall just got 10’ higher!

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Nyet  May 3, 2016 • 8:50:07am

re: #75 Stanley Sea

I really don’t see Erik son of Erik or Guns Dana changing their minds & supporting Trump.

If they do, I will suspect blackmail or a million dollar deposit in the Caymans.

No way Beck supports Trump too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 8:51:10am

re: #253 lawhawk

For Radiohead fans, a new song has dropped:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 3, 2016 • 8:53:06am

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Roosh V: Governments pushing education for women are depriving me of a good wife

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 8:53:13am

Don should be in jail, not walking the streets of WV.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 8:53:45am

Guy comes forward to claim he is Bitcoin’s creator, and offers proof that convinces key Bitcoin leaders.

Most of the Bitcoin universe doesn’t believe him.

bbc.com

It’s like Life of Brian, but in reverse.

“I am your Lord! Watch me make this tree wither and die!”
“No you’re not. It just needs watering.”
“Watch me bring this dead cat back to life!”
“It was resting.”
“Oh, forget it! You people are hopeless.”

Beam of light pierces the sky, and up he goes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 8:54:47am

re: #272 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Guy comes forward to claim he is Bitcoin’s creator, and offers proof that convinces key Bitcoin leaders.

Most of the Bitcoin universe doesn’t believe him.

Because Bitcoin is based on mistrust of bankers and financial institutions…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 8:55:53am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because Bitcoin is based on mistrust of bankers and financial institutions…

Some of those same people probably doubt we landed on the Moon.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2016 • 8:57:51am

re: #176 darthstar

One of these days Trump will say something some people consider inappropriate and it will hurt him in the polls.

Did you forget the sarc tags? :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 8:57:52am

re: #274 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some of those same people probably doubt we landed on the Moon.

I am shocked to learn that you fell for that NASA scam in the first place…

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The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2016 • 8:58:26am

Shakespeare understood how to do Twitter

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 9:00:52am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am shocked to learn that you fell for that NASA scam in the first place…

Sshh. I was paid money by NASA to teach that stuff to my science students. They pay way better than Soros and the Worldwide Zionist Organization.

Still waiting for my climate change check, though. Something to do with glacial melt rates.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 9:03:13am

re: #278 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sshh. I was paid money by NASA to teach that stuff to my science students. They pay way better than Soros and the Worldwide Zionist Organization.

Still waiting for my climate change check, though. Something to do with glacial melt rates.

I get paid in hockey sticks.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2016 • 9:04:10am

Glenn Beck is having another pity party and has started a fast to save the country. He’s spreading the word with the Twitter hastag #Tuesdayfast. I thought I would help out.

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withak  May 3, 2016 • 9:07:03am

re: #253 lawhawk

For Radiohead fans, a new song has dropped:

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Whoa.

It actually sounds like music.

Radiohead going back to their roots!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 9:09:10am
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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 9:09:28am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Glenn Beck is having another pity party and has started a fast to save the country. He’s spreading the word with the Twitter hastag #Tuesdayfast. I thought I would help out.

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Is that a Trump Steak?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 9:13:43am

The PLA now has a recruitment video, with a rap soundtrack. Somewhat of a step up from the “Little Apple” navy recruitment video.

tv.81.cn

bbc.com

Kill Kill Kill!

China has an all-volunteer military. They’re trying to lure youngsters into the service. Two of my freshmen last year (one male, one female) passed the physical tests last spring, and signed up.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 3, 2016 • 9:14:28am

re: #237 Jenner7

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Morning, Lizards.

That is awesome.
XD

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 9:14:37am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have just been told my two hour delta flight “will not have lavatory service.” How does that even happen?

They need the extra room for the standing passengers.

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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 9:17:42am

Lee Harvey Oswald is trending on Twitter.

This is the dumbest primary season ever.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 9:18:51am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Foreign visitors to the USA complain about the crappy service on American airlines. Case in point. No lav service means Delta doesn’t need to pay someone to pump out the tanks and clean the facilities at the destination.

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withak  May 3, 2016 • 9:18:59am

re: #287 b.d.

Lee Harvey Oswald is trending on Twitter.

This is the dumbest primary season ever.

It’s only going to get worse.

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No Depression  May 3, 2016 • 9:19:08am

re: #253 lawhawk

For Radiohead fans, a new song has dropped:

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Looks like the Bernie Bros have a new anthem now. /

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 9:19:08am

re: #287 b.d.

Lee Harvey Oswald is trending on Twitter.

This is the dumbest primary season ever.

so far…

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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 9:19:44am

re: #289 withak

It’s only going to get worse.

Wait until they find out Hillary’s dad killed Archduke Ferdinand.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 9:19:47am

re: #286 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just be thankful that they’re not asking for passengers to get out and push. /

Seriously though, Delta’s probably balancing short-haul flight delay/cancel versus telling people to hold it for 2 hours. Shitty.

On a recent flight by a Delta code share (one of their local short haulers), they switched planes and delayed us 2+ hours to replace brakes. Flight was only about 60% full, so that inconvenienced the fewest number of ppl. But it screwed up our itinerary for the 1st day of our trip since we were hoping to have time to do sightsee that first day.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 3, 2016 • 9:20:21am

OK. After midnight here. Later on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 9:22:54am

re: #292 b.d.

Wait until they find out Hillary’s dad killed Arch Duke Ferdinand.

Arch Duke Ferdinand of Hazard?

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2016 • 9:25:22am

re: #287 b.d.

Lee Harvey Oswald is trending on Twitter.

This is the dumbest primary season ever.

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Tigger2  May 3, 2016 • 9:25:40am

I live in Vigo Co in Indiana the local news said the turn out to vote in the primary is very high.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 9:25:50am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

The tweets in response to that are kinda funny. A few are wondering whether Beck has finally lost it. Um, he lost it a long time ago. He broke with reality long ago. He’s been pandering with conspiracy BS for years now. But I doubt anyone cares that he’s going to engage in a fast. Especially when he’s still getting rich off the rubes.

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sagehen  May 3, 2016 • 9:25:55am

re: #293 lawhawk

Just be thankful that they’re not asking for passengers to get out and push. /

Seriously though, Delta’s probably balancing short-haul flight delay/cancel versus telling people to hold it for 2 hours. Shitty.

I see what you did there.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2016 • 9:26:28am

Should we really be surprised that Trump and his cultists are buying into the Rafael Cruz-JFK Conspiracy…..Trump is the asshole that mainstreamed the birfer conspiracy.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2016 • 9:31:06am

re: #299 lawhawk

The tweets in response to that are kinda funny. A few are wondering whether Beck has finally lost it. Um, he lost it a long time ago. He broke with reality long ago. He’s been pandering with conspiracy BS for years now. But I doubt anyone cares that he’s going to engage in a fast. Especially when he’s still getting rich off the rubes.

He made his fortune grifting on a message of hate of division. He rode and profited from the Teabagger Party wave and, like everyone else, will be going down with the sinking ship.

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withak  May 3, 2016 • 9:32:00am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

He made his fortune grifting on a message of hate of division. He rode and profited from the Teabagger Party wave and, like everyone else, will be going down with the sinking ship.

Beck is just Alex Jones with a different haircut.

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Eventual Carrion  May 3, 2016 • 9:32:50am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bubba is near my neighborhood this morning.

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Clinton at MoreHead college kinda makes me giggle

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 9:33:27am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

He made his fortune grifting on a message of hate of division. He rode and profited from the Teabagger Party wave and, like everyone else, will be going down with the sinking ship.

He started out as a morning radio shock jock. He has retained his key approach of saying and doing outrageous things to get peoples’ attention, just to a different audience.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 9:34:03am

re: #304 Eventual Carrion

Clinton at MoreHead college kinda makes me giggle

would be even better if it were in Santa Monica, CA…

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withak  May 3, 2016 • 9:34:31am

A preview of tonight’s Meeting of the Pups (hidden behind private tags for dramatic effect):

eQ3pKr4o6BIcXExjQ3WI3BOL27h0gmsWmYJ2dcXnJxmuhwCo09UeIzZ3HVQW6vOnc5FyENAEixnX1ZCTansUMEFqBV1Z+lpiRRcWR5ujIcDcvAo1wItlsr3FUwVlh6NN+VHxmFjCqIUpYwmU1+A1coELr0kJ0427Q5dcQ47kf32zz6dKb3ST3XqN6zi6GeBLl2reN3b7Q7XYEtjoWMchYSeo6LAE2urq26mT8Wn5PsCMk07GpV2jiegdTFB7ksLbO2axUsQbn6BBlsDf+0v+7lBd5WPXTpw6AnQUYn6XLlJadztFDcULxPXHZSNDl/zMPum/bVizLI5HmPuXUK0llmBMH05MChNLbnGncxEe+DXY509rAZ9rrF0BE0ba+uI2BbPikATGNGN9XoLrPtEIwjVYAXghJ+zYVDhgmahHosTr8KexMQoj1w==

She’ll be coming to live with us if she gets along well with our beagle during tonight’s visit, which is all but a foregone conclusion.

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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 9:38:05am

re: #307 withak

A preview of tonight’s Meeting of the Pups (hidden behind private tags for dramatic effect):

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She’ll be coming to live with us if she gets along well with our beagle during tonight’s visit, which is all but a foregone conclusion.

awwww. I hope you told the beagle to act right.

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Jenner7  May 3, 2016 • 9:39:24am

Reporter for MSNBC saying some Democrats say Hillary needs to win Indiana and California, not because she really needs those states, but because of optics.

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Le Lapin Tueur  May 3, 2016 • 9:41:01am

re: #309 Jenner7

….optics.

This word must die. A terrible, painful death. With lots of agony.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2016 • 9:41:07am

blre: #290 No Depression

Looks like the Bernie Bros have a new anthem now. /

I saw a reaction from a BBro, that kind of implied that. I didn’t want to go there.

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Belafon  May 3, 2016 • 9:42:15am

re: #309 Jenner7

Reporter for MSNBC saying some Democrats say Hillary needs to win Indiana and California, not because she really needs those states, but because of optics.

I suspect that reporter (or the Democrats if they are real) really means that Clinton needs to stop having a vagina.

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Nyet  May 3, 2016 • 9:42:48am

re: #310 Le Lapin Tueur

This word must die. A terrible, painful death. With lots of agony.

No, it should be used strictly for physics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 9:43:15am

re: #313 Nyet

No, it should be used strictly for physics.

Germans love to overuse it.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 9:48:25am

re: #310 Le Lapin Tueur

This word must die. A terrible, painful death. With lots of agony.

I’d need to keep an eye on that.

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Le Lapin Tueur  May 3, 2016 • 9:50:38am

re: #313 Nyet

Ok. Context is everything.

re: #315 lawhawk

Arrrrrgggggg

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 3, 2016 • 9:51:49am

re: #287 b.d.

Lee Harvey Oswald is trending on Twitter.

This is the dumbest primary season ever.

It really is.
That’s the wackiest thing I think Trump has said…

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Nyet  May 3, 2016 • 9:52:49am

re: #315 lawhawk

I’d need to keep an eye on that.

Don’t touch the eye, you Andalusian dog!

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 9:53:46am
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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2016 • 9:58:17am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Glenn Beck is having another pity party and has started a fast to save the country. He’s spreading the word with the Twitter hastag #Tuesdayfast. I thought I would help out.

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LOL!! I bet he’s gorging himself while calling for his followers to fast to “save the country”. There is no way he’s stupid enough to believe that going without food for 24 hours will do anything for Cruz’ chances of winning the Indiana primary.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2016 • 10:04:42am

re: #287 b.d.

Lee Harvey Oswald is trending on Twitter.

This is the dumbest primary season ever.

Fascinating

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:05:47am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another welfare dependent who wants free stuff.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2016 • 10:07:09am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:07:19am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Glenn Beck is having another pity party and has started a fast to save the country. He’s spreading the word with the Twitter hastag #Tuesdayfast. I thought I would help out.

Remember when there was that protest in DC last month and a bunch of people got arrested? Beck’s fast should work out about as well as that.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 3, 2016 • 10:07:32am

re: #307 withak

I love when pups sleep with a smile!

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Testy Toad T  May 3, 2016 • 10:08:11am

re: #323 FormerDirtDart

The man isn’t wrong…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 10:09:07am
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No Country For Old Haters  May 3, 2016 • 10:09:07am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Glenn Beck is having another pity party and has started a fast to save the country. He’s spreading the word with the Twitter hastag #Tuesdayfast. I thought I would help out.

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2016 • 10:11:45am

re: #323 FormerDirtDart

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But Trump does?

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2016 • 10:12:10am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:12:17am

re: #326 Testy Toad T

The man isn’t wrong…

The Trump campaign has made Cruz say crazy things, like: “We are not a nation of hate and insults. We don’t solve things with anger. We are not a nation of bullies.”

Yeah, the same Cruz who shut down the government in an effort to take healthcare away from people. The same Cruz who brags about how much hell he raises in DC against The Establishment. The same Cruz who campaigns against SSM and for “bathroom bills”, the same Cruz who complains about “New York Values”, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 10:12:22am

in Cincinnati:

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2016 • 10:12:27am

re: #328 No Country For Old Haters

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From the Kenyan Muslim Communist in the White House, of course.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:13:44am

re: #333 Patricia Kayden

From the Kenyan Muslim Communist in the White House, of course.

Beck should fast until January, 2017. I bet it would work then.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 10:14:56am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:15:49am

re: #335 lawhawk

The plot thickens….

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2016 • 10:17:08am

re: #336 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The plot thickens….

So does the idiocy.

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Timothy Watson  May 3, 2016 • 10:19:23am

re: #335 lawhawk

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CONNECT THE DOTS SHEEPLE!!11!

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2016 • 10:19:25am

re: #335 lawhawk

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A quiet little restaurant called The Grassy Knoll….

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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 10:19:27am

re: #335 lawhawk

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Were you lying then or are you lying now?

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Tigger2  May 3, 2016 • 10:20:41am

re: #336 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The plot thickens….

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2016 • 10:20:57am

For only $25 at the Cruz store this can be yours.

343
b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 10:21:01am

re: #339 Barefoot Grin

A quiet little restaurant called The Grassy Knoll….

What are the odds that the 2nd gunman is also the father of the Zodiac killer?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:21:14am

re: #337 Patricia Kayden

So does the idiocy.

The conspiracy revealed:

Mr. Rate: That’s how a conspiracy works. Them boys on the Grassy Knoll they were dead within three hours, buried in the damned desert, unmarked graves out past Terlingua.

Nick Memphis: You know this for a fact?

Mr. Rate: Still got the shovel…

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Timothy Watson  May 3, 2016 • 10:23:32am

re: #341 Tigger2

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Don’t give Trump any ideas.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:23:48am

re: #344 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The conspiracy revealed:

Shooter (4/8) Movie CLIP - Mister Rate’s Advice (2007) HD

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:24:18am

re: #342 Skip Intro

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For only $25 at the Cruz store this can be yours.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

348
Tigger2  May 3, 2016 • 10:26:03am
349
b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 10:26:18am

It should be easy enough for Daddy Cruz to produce his paystub or the eaterie to provide the timecard from that fateful day.

Ball’s in your court Camp Cruz.

//

350
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:29:11am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

When can we expect an article from The Federalist about how airlines should take out lavs from their planes to reduce costs and be more competitive and to stop pampering their riders so much?

//

351
The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2016 • 10:33:17am

re: #350 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

When can we expect an article from The Federalist about how airlines should take out lavs from their planes to reduce costs and be more competitive and to stop pampering their riders so much?

//

The article will also explain that people who fly in economy class are “moochers” and “lazy losers” who just want to hitch on a ride for “free stuff” from the hard-working, tax-paying, first class passengers.

352
makeitstop  May 3, 2016 • 10:37:26am

re: #253 lawhawk

For Radiohead fans, a new song has dropped:

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Pretty disturbing, in a kind of cute way.

I can’t wait for the new album. I’m expecting it to be even more political than ‘Hail to the Thief.’

353
b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 10:39:21am

How come no one remembers Ted Cruz’s dad watching the motorcade as it went by?!?!

//

354
Kragar  May 3, 2016 • 10:42:25am
355
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 3, 2016 • 10:42:32am

Gov. Rick Scott Offers California Businesses Cheap-Ass Florida Workers At Bargain Basement Prices

356
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 10:44:08am
357
makeitstop  May 3, 2016 • 10:45:32am

re: #342 Skip Intro

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For only $25 at the Cruz store this can be yours.

They’re charging money for that?? That’s fucking awful!

358
Charles Johnson  May 3, 2016 • 10:46:19am
359
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:46:49am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t he supposed to be in jail?

360
lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 10:46:59am

re: #354 Kragar

So looking forward to seeing her indicted and perp-walked for her involvement in the Bundy militia takeover of Malheur and the standoff at the NV ranch. She’s an enabler and condoned armed standoff with lawful enforcement of federal law on federal land.

Some people think they’re above the law. She’s no better than the Bundy nuts already in jail for their criminal takeover of Malheur or armed insurrection at the Bundy ranch.

361
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 3, 2016 • 10:47:25am

re: #354 Kragar

Damn Black Lives Matter activists hate cops…oh wait

362
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 10:47:25am

re: #311 Stanley Sea

bl

I saw a reaction from a BBro, that kind of implied that. I didn’t want to go there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 10:47:52am

re: #359 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Isn’t he supposed to be in jail?

yep…

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lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 10:49:58am

More Trump conspiracy/troofer BS:

365
Kragar  May 3, 2016 • 10:50:35am
366
Charles Johnson  May 3, 2016 • 10:51:09am
367
No Depression  May 3, 2016 • 10:51:57am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn they’re predictable.

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makeitstop  May 3, 2016 • 10:52:12am

re: #354 Kragar

NV Lawmaker: Okay To Aim Guns At Cops If They Aim At You First

AKA ‘How to commit suicide by cop in one easy lesson’

Jesus, she’s stupid.

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withak  May 3, 2016 • 10:52:46am

re: #367 No Depression

Damn they’re predictable.

At this point, I have to estimate that 90% of the political trash-talking on Twitter is ratfucking or similar.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 3, 2016 • 10:53:21am

re: #369 withak

At this point, I have to estimate that 90% of the political trash-talking on Twitter is ratfucking or similar.

twitter and politics. go together like rats and fucking

371
lawhawk  May 3, 2016 • 10:54:04am

re: #366 Charles Johnson

Shouldn’t he be spending more time trying to get a job than spending time out in SFO stalking Twitter in the hopes of getting his account restored? Seems to have some seriously misplaced priorities. Target fixation.

Definitely not healthy.

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Alephnaught  May 3, 2016 • 10:57:20am

re: #295 lawhawk

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Are you sure “Take Me Out” wouldn’t be a more appropriate track from Franz Ferdinand?

Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out (2004)

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2016 • 11:05:19am

re: #366 Charles Johnson

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Self-evaluation?

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b.d.  May 3, 2016 • 11:07:54am

Senator John McCain’s son;

Good job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2016 • 11:10:13am

re: #374 b.d.

Senator John McCain’s son;

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Good job.

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Nyet  May 3, 2016 • 11:11:48am

re: #374 b.d.

To them it proves something something about McCain.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2016 • 11:17:03am

re: #376 Nyet

To them it proves something something about McCain.

Don’t they believe they proved that way back in 2000, during the South Carolina primary period?

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2016 • 11:22:22am

Flickr

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 3, 2016 • 11:24:26am

re: #288 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Was that on a mainline or commuter aircraft? Any flight number below 3000 is mainline, above that it’s on a commuter craft (but Delta owns most of them anyaway, so…)

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2016 • 11:33:42am

Flickr

Fifty Point in Grmsby Ontario from this past January.

Prints & Downloads available from my SmugMug website.
SmugMug | Facebook

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sagehen  May 3, 2016 • 12:33:29pm

re: #343 b.d.

What are the odds that the 2nd gunman is also the father of the Zodiac killer?

I thought the 2nd shooter was Woody Harrelson’s dad…

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