Texas Republicans Adopt Astonishingly Extreme Party Platform

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This not a Sovereign Citizen manifesto issued by some drunken crackpot in a rundown compound on the fringes of Lubbock, it is the official platform of the largest and most powerful political organization in the state:

The main theme of the Texas Republican platform this year is nullification and destruction of everything they oppose, including women’s rights, ethnic diversity, comprehensive sex education, LGBT rights, the separation of church and state, voting rights, and the federal government.

Right off the bat, Texas Republicans began their platform document with a preamble pledging their belief in God and and went on to list adherence to “the laws of nature” as a principle – even though the Constitution makes no such references. But it only got worse from there. Texas Republicans openly called for nullifying federal laws and ignoring the rulings of federal courts:

Federally mandated legislation, which infringes upon the 10th Amendment rights of Texas, should be ignored, opposed, refused, and nullified. Regulation of Commerce in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution has exceeded the original intent. All attempts by the federal judiciary to rule in areas not expressly enumerated by the Untied States Constitution should be likewise nullified. Any federal enforcement activities that do occur in Texas should be conducted under the authority of the county sheriff.

They openly called for eliminating several critical federal agencies which handle labor unions, healthcare, tax revenue collection, and illegal drugs and firearms:

We oppose the appointment of unelected bureaucrats and we support defunding and abolishing the departments or agencies of the Internal Revenue Service, Education, Energy, Housing and Urban Development, Commerce, Health and Human Services, Labor, and Interior (specifically, the Bureau of Land Management), Transportation Security Administration, Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and National Labor Relations Board.

It only gets nuttier as it delves into social issues. The GOP naturally supports creationism and opposes sex education in public schools, condemns homosexuality in Biblical terms, and calls for an absolute ban on abortion. They also call climate change a hoax, demand “English only,” and top it all by calling for the repeal of the Voting Rights Act.

This amazing document can be viewed in full here.

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1
Decatur Deb  May 18, 2016 • 8:15:19am

It’s time to pull the nukes and armored units out of Texas for a while.

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nines09  May 18, 2016 • 9:15:21am

Have they sent an envoy to the Taliban yet?

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Romantic Heretic  May 18, 2016 • 9:49:11am

I’m thinking that if they want out so badly they should be allowed to. Perhaps a couple of decades as a 3rd world nation might make them appreciate living in a civilized country.

Or not.

4
Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2016 • 10:03:37am

I expect next year after Hillary is elected President they may very well pass that secession proposal.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 18, 2016 • 10:10:09am

re: #3 Romantic Heretic

I’m thinking that if they want out so badly they should be allowed to. Perhaps a couple of decades as a 3rd world nation might make them appreciate living in a civilized country.

Or not.

“3rd world”.. No. But in reality, it seems the closest approximation of Texas’ political model (and to a large extent, the entire hard right in the USA) seems to be modern Russia under Putin.

The notion of a nationalist autocracy led by a (white) strongman is entirely appealing to much of this population. Texas’ take on it would be a radical Christian theocracy based mostly on late-20th Century interpretations of Rapture/End Times myth along with selected and edited portions of Old Testament law that adhere to their predetermined ideology promoting big business Uber alles. It never occurs to Texas that much of their wealth and station comes from massive Federal Spending due to all those military bases and weapons manufacturing located within the Texas border. What Texas would plan to do with suddenly empty military bases the size of Fort Hood I can only guess. But you can be sure it would not be to the benefit of the poorest of Texans.

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Lidane  May 18, 2016 • 1:56:54pm

re: #4 Big Beautiful Door

I expect next year after Hillary is elected President they may very well pass that secession proposal.

If Texas ever secedes, I’ll be begging relatives in Mexico or in other states to take me in.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2016 • 1:19:54pm

Everything about the Republican Party is extreme these days.

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stpaulbear  May 19, 2016 • 1:21:00pm

And weren’t they only one or two votes away from including secession in that plank too?

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 1:22:16pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2016 • 1:22:18pm

Both parties are the same!

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sffilk  May 19, 2016 • 1:22:42pm

I’m guessing an unwritten part of the platform is anti-Jewish, anti-Hindu, etc., and anti-everyone-who’s not-their-brand-of-Christian?

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 1:22:47pm

It is becoming increasing obvious that the GOP must be utterly destroyed.

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Belafon  May 19, 2016 • 1:23:53pm

Either Clinton wins or it’ll be 1913 again. Whose going to stop Trump from banning minorities from federal jobs? A Republican majority? HAHAHAHA

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2016 • 1:27:05pm
All attempts by the federal judiciary to rule in areas not expressly enumerated by the Untied States Constitution

Holy shit, they actually do say UNTIED STATES (Page 4, Principle 14).

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Tigger2  May 19, 2016 • 1:29:14pm

So basically Texas is against a lot of the things that made America great.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 1:29:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 1:29:54pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Holy shit, they actually do say UNTIED STATES (Page 4, Principle 14).

It’s spelled that way in the Texas textbooks…

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Belafon  May 19, 2016 • 1:30:15pm

These guys know their only hope is rigging the system. They can’t win otherwise.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 1:30:44pm
This not a Sovereign Citizen manifesto issued by some drunken crackpot in a rundown compound on the fringes of Lubbock, it is the official platform of the largest and most powerful political organization in the state

This case is both/and, instead of either/or.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 1:30:51pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Holy shit, they actually do say UNTIED STATES (Page 4, Principle 14).

I used to have some fake money issued by “The Untied States of Aremica”.

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KGxvi  May 19, 2016 • 1:31:38pm

re: #5 Rocky-in-Connecticut

“3rd world”.. No. But in reality, it seems the closest approximation of Texas’ political model (and to a large extent, the entire hard right in the USA) seems to be modern Russia under Putin.

The notion of a nationalist autocracy led by a (white) strongman is entirely appealing to much of this population. Texas’ take on it would be a radical Christian theocracy based mostly on late-20th Century interpretations of Rapture/End Times myth along with selected and edited portions of Old Testament law that adhere to their predetermined ideology promoting big business Uber alles. It never occurs to Texas that much of their wealth and station comes from massive Federal Spending due to all those military bases and weapons manufacturing located within the Texas border. What Texas would plan to do with suddenly empty military bases the size of Fort Hood I can only guess. But you can be sure it would not be to the benefit of the poorest of Texans.

The Mighty Army of Texas is going to need some place to stage their invasions of Mexico and/or Louisiana (not the state, but the territory acquired in the Purchase, because obvi).

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mmmirele  May 19, 2016 • 1:32:51pm

I have a high school diploma, and a BA and a JD from Texas universities. It’s news like this that makes me either want to ship them back out of embarrassment, or have a bonfire on my patio using the documents as kindling, again, out of embarrassment.

Not that Arizona is a *whole* lot better, but it’s not that whack.

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KGxvi  May 19, 2016 • 1:32:52pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Holy shit, they actually do say UNTIED STATES (Page 4, Principle 14).

I’d suggest it’s a subtle nod to either the Articles of Confederacy or the Confederate States, but they don’t seem to do subtle.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 1:34:29pm

Bernie Sanders has no plausible path to secure the Democratic nomination: To earn a majority of pledged delegates, he’d need to win 68 percent of those left outstanding, even though he’s only won less than 46 percent of available delegates to date. But instead of acknowledging this reality, Sanders’ campaign is now taking a scorched-earth approach toward its opponents—even if that means helping Donald Trump win the White House.

An alarming new report from the New York Times details Sanders’ destructive ramp-up, explaining that the senator is now hoping to “inflict[…] a heavy blow on Hillary Clinton” and is “willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton” so that he might “arrive at the Philadelphia convention with maximum political power.”

And the Sanders campaign is quite insistent that it doesn’t care whether its attempt to seize this supposed fount of power jeopardizes Democrats’ chances at holding the White House, as long as it keeps Sanders’ non-existent hopes alive:

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 19, 2016 • 1:34:44pm

Here’s the winner of the “Create a Trump Bumper Sticker Contest.”

This is going to destroy Trump.

I’ll be waiting by the mail for my prize.

I’d like to thank all the little people.

Fork
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 19, 2016 • 1:35:23pm

re: #3 Romantic Heretic

I’m thinking that if they want out so badly they should be allowed to. Perhaps a couple of weeks decades as a 3rd world nation might make them appreciate living in a civilized country.

Or not.

Fixed

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 1:35:46pm
Any federal enforcement activities that do occur in Texas should be conducted under the authority of the county sheriff.

Posse comitatus is a hell of a drug

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Bubblehead II  May 19, 2016 • 1:37:03pm

Liberal Redneck’ ridicules anti-trans Target protester: ‘Crazier than Michele Bachmann on bath salts’

“Nobody’s trying to take your rights,” he said in a video released on Thursday. “We’re just trying to keep you from doing that to other people. I know you’re a white person in America, so I can see why you’d think this, but telling other people how to live is not a right you have.”

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 1:39:08pm

re: #28 Bubblehead II

‘Liberal Redneck’ ridicules anti-trans Target protester: ‘Crazier than Michele Bachmann on bath salts’

“Nobody’s trying to take your rights,” he said in a video released on Thursday. “We’re just trying to keep you from doing that to other people. I know you’re a white person in America, so I can see why you’d think this, but telling other people how to live is not a right you have.”

YT link?

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 1:40:39pm
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Testy Toad T  May 19, 2016 • 1:41:09pm

* supports elimination of the Department of Energy
* probably thinks Obama has made us weaker because we aren’t building a shit-ton of nukes

hmmmm.

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Tigger2  May 19, 2016 • 1:43:03pm

I’ll probable catch some flak over this comment I made at DK, It a comment I made in this diary.

“All the bullshit attacks on Bernie smack of fear and desperation”

“It’s not Fear or Desperation, it’s Disgust at the way that Sanders is running his campaign and the fact that he’s just been a Dem for 2 secs and he’s telling us life long Dem’s what to think and who to vote for and if we don’t agree with him then we are just Establishment whores. well piss on that, I used to like Bernie but I don’t anymore.”

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 1:44:00pm

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

I’ve had it up to here with these purity idiots that don’t seem to get the basic reality of US politics, which is this:

The civic duty of each and every rational, non-hateful citizen in the US is to vote (D) in every contested general election race in which a Republican is running.

Anything that interferes with this mission, like the Sanders’ campaign ongoing fostering of delusions among Sanders supporters, is totally unacceptable. Sanders could stay in the race without doing that crap, but that isn’t what is happening. So to hell with him.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 1:44:04pm
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Bubblehead II  May 19, 2016 • 1:47:02pm

re: #29 Decatur Deb

YT link?

Raw Story. Post has been corrected to include the link. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 1:47:07pm
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darthstar  May 19, 2016 • 1:47:55pm
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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 1:48:14pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

If I thought like a Sanders supporter, I’d probably start floating the conspiracy theory that a big check from Wall Street to Bernie Sanders cleared right around the time Sanders started destroying his own credibility.

What better way for the oligarchy to insulate itself from criticism than to stage-manage a Quixotic anti-Wall street charge that will kill the issue for decades to come?

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Teukka  May 19, 2016 • 1:50:28pm

re: #37 darthstar

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Moar! :) :)

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 1:51:12pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2016 • 1:53:35pm

re: #37 darthstar

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darthstar  May 19, 2016 • 1:54:06pm

Waze was fucking with my Uber driver today.

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 1:55:02pm

re: #38 EPR-radar

If I thought like a Sanders supporter, I’d probably start floating the conspiracy theory that a big check from Wall Street to Bernie Sanders cleared right around the time Sanders started destroying his own credibility.

What better way for the oligarchy to insulate itself from criticism than to stage-manage a Quixotic anti-Wall street charge that will kill the issue for decades to come?


“We don’t fear the opposition, we direct the opposition.”

—some dystopic drama

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 1:55:27pm

re: #37 darthstar

Oh, this is so good. So good.

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 1:55:53pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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b.d.  May 19, 2016 • 1:56:10pm

re: #37 darthstar

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Genius

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Belafon  May 19, 2016 • 1:56:13pm

re: #43 Decatur Deb


“We don’t fear the opposition, we direct the opposition.”

—some dystopic drama

That would be the good subplot in the Episodes 1-3, where Senator Palpatine is working both sides.

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Teukka  May 19, 2016 • 1:56:57pm

re: #37 darthstar

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 1:57:08pm

re: #32 Tigger2

I’ll probable catch some flack over this comment I made at DK, It a comment I made in this diary.

“All the bullshit attacks on Bernie smack of fear and desperation”

“It’s not Fear or Desperation, it’s Disgust at the way he’s running his campaign and the fact that he’s just been a Dem for 2 secs and he’s telling us life long Dem’s what to think and who to vote for and if we don’t agree with him then we are just Establishment whores. well piss on that, I used to like Bernie but I don’t anymore.”

That’s what has really pissed me off about all of this. Sanders made a big mistake by only having one issue, even though it is a very important issue. To make matters that much worse, he bungled the handling of that one issue badly (pretty much as badly as in the ‘you had one job’ meme).

Running vs. the oligarchy by smearing Clinton and many Democrats as ‘establishment whores’ is useless crap. What’s wrong with focusing on the substantive issues? E.g., here’s what Clinton has promised about confronting the oligarchy and how she will get this done, and here’s what I’m promising and how it will get done.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 1:57:39pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 1:58:22pm

O’Keege foiled again by O’Keefe.

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 1:59:09pm
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b.d.  May 19, 2016 • 1:59:11pm

re: #37 darthstar

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[okeefe] SOROS IS TRYING TO TAKE US DOWN!![/okeefe]

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 19, 2016 • 1:59:31pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

O’Keege foiled again by O’Keefe.

One of them has half of what it takes to be an Idiot/Savant.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 2:00:06pm

re: #37 darthstar

I’m sure that Mr. O’Keefe generally believes in white supremacy, and likely sees himself as a case in point.

‘nuff said.

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b.d.  May 19, 2016 • 2:00:29pm

Project Veridumb

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KGxvi  May 19, 2016 • 2:00:37pm

re: #47 Belafon

That would be the good subplot in the Episodes 1-3, where Senator Palpatine is working both sides.

Subplot? That was the overarching plot of the prequel trilogy.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 2:01:09pm
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ObserverArt  May 19, 2016 • 2:01:21pm

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

And yet some want to tell us we are over reacting…it’s just politics.

Fuck that.

I hope Sanders loses California and New Jersey big time. I hope the people in those states are becoming as frustrated by his antics as the DNC is at this point. Well, most of the people anyway. A few still have some blinders on. I guess they became blinded by all the berning flames.

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 2:01:47pm
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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 2:01:50pm

re: #57 KGxvi

Subplot? That was the overarching plot of the prequel trilogy.

Saw it recently, perhaps in something like “V”.

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 2:03:15pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

Current projections said Clinton was on track to end this in NJ.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 2:03:26pm

re: #57 KGxvi

Subplot? That was the overarching plot of the prequel trilogy.

My memory of that is poor. Thankfully. Years of diligent effort has eventually compensated for a lack of the substance abuse that is ordinarily needed to blot out memories.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 2:04:28pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

And yet some want to tell us we are over reacting…it’s just politics.

Fuck that.

I hope Sanders loses California and New Jersey big time. I hope the people in those states are becoming as frustrated by his antics as the DNC is at this point. Well, most of the people anyway. A few still have some blinders on. I guess they became blinded by all the berning flames.

It’s only one vote, but I will make a special point of voting for Clinton in the CA primary this cycle. Normally the CA primary is a waste of time that I skip.

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KGxvi  May 19, 2016 • 2:04:49pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Saw it recently, perhaps in something like “V”.

It’s actually a pretty standard plot device when dealing with political intrigue stories regardless of genre. One could argue that it is used in A Song of Fire and Ice to a certain extent

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 2:06:33pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

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Thanks for the flip phone excuse!

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Belafon  May 19, 2016 • 2:07:19pm

re: #57 KGxvi

Subplot? That was the overarching plot of the prequel trilogy.

You’re right. I used the wrong word.

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 2:10:52pm

re: #67 Belafon

You’re right. I used the wrong word.

It was a fairly explicit dialogue quote, wherever it was.

(Only saw the first 3 SW episodes, and that was still 50 fucking Ewoks too many.)

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 2:11:38pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

Thanks for the flip phone excuse!

Go team flip phone!

The regional organizer was at last night’s phone bank and got upset when she dropped her iPhone and cracked the screen. I was all “You should go Lo-Tek like me.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 2:11:52pm

re: #68 Decatur Deb

It was a fairly explicit dialogue quote, wherever it was.

(Only saw the first 3 SW episodes, and that was still 50 fucking Ewoks too many.)

Huh. I don’t remember the Ewok orgy.

/ducks

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 2:11:56pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

Thanks for the flip phone excuse!

My excuse is it cost $25 and $5 a month, and I’ll bet there are at least 5 out of the last 12 months I haven’t used it at all.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 2:13:26pm

“This adorable long-haired dachshund named Arvo wanted to go to sleep, but it needed its teddy bear to cuddle with. It seemed like the bear was too big to fit in the dog’s kennel, but because of Arvo’s unwavering determination, the bear managed to be stuffed inside.”

Dog Stuffs Teddy Bear Into Kennel

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 2:13:31pm

re: #70 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Huh. I don’t remember the Ewok orgy.

/ducks

Mostly behind all that foliage, sneaky little vermin.

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 2:14:59pm
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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 2:15:13pm

re: #72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“This adorable long-haired dachshund named Arvo wanted to go to sleep, but it needed its teddy bear to cuddle with. It seemed like the bear was too big to fit in the dog’s kennel, but because of Arvo’s unwavering determination, the bear managed to be stuffed inside.”

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Video

The opposite of a birth.

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Belafon  May 19, 2016 • 2:15:53pm

re: #68 Decatur Deb

It was a fairly explicit dialogue quote, wherever it was.

(Only saw the first 3 SW episodes, and that was still 50 fucking Ewoks too many.)

It’s getting late in the afternoon. My brain’s trying to go on standby. I think I used subplot because I don’t remember it turning up until the second and third episodes, and there were other things going on as well.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 2:16:13pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Mostly behind all that foliage, sneaky little vermin.

The Ewoks look a little too much like the gopher in Caddyshack for my personal taste….

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 2:16:31pm

re: #71 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My excuse is it cost $25 and $5 a month, and I’ll bet there are at least 5 out of the last 12 months I haven’t used it at all.

Yep!

I totally understand having a smart phone if you need it for your job, but for me the benefits don’t yet outweigh the cost. Also I just really prefer sitting down with my laptop to do internet shit, and I’m already pretty much carrying that around everywhere anyway.

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 2:17:58pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 2:23:01pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2016 • 2:25:48pm

re: #79 Kragar

I’m telling you. The Dem convention is going to get violent.

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mmmirele  May 19, 2016 • 2:26:54pm

re: #60 Kragar

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I hope Hillary’s people are lining up people like her and the architect for commercials this fall.

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 2:29:57pm

BOOM!

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2016 • 2:30:33pm

re: #79 Kragar

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Grrrrrrrr…

(More overreaction from me!)

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 2:31:34pm

re: #81 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m telling you. The Dem convention is going to get violent.

The black blocs have been MIA for a while.

occupy.com

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stpaulbear  May 19, 2016 • 2:31:59pm

re: #81 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m telling you. The Dem convention is going to get violent.

If more stories like that NYT piece keep coming out, along with losing CA and NJ, Bernie’s not going to have a pot to piss in by the time the convention comes around. That recent Hillary interview showed she’s sick of it and not going to pretend there’s any doubt about her being the nominee.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 2:32:07pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2016 • 2:32:16pm

re: #56 b.d.

It has to rhyme. Project Veridumbass!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 2:32:53pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

Yep!

I totally understand having a smart phone if you need it for your job, but for me the benefits don’t yet outweigh the cost. Also I just really prefer sitting down with my laptop to do internet shit, and I’m already pretty much carrying that around everywhere anyway.

There are people it absolutely doesn’t make sense for.

I use mine a lot, but not for Internet shit. There’s a reason for a physical keyboard, people.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 2:34:39pm

[…]

An issue arose after the party said Sandia Pueblo would not allow reporters to cover the event. But tribe said that was never the case.

“This was simply a matter of media requests to attend this weekend’s convention needing to be processed by my office and the Tribal Council, pursuant to protocol,” Gov. Isaac Lujan said in a statement quoted by the local media. “All media requests have now been approved.”

[…]

There was also this:

New Mexico Republicans are having a hard time putting their state convention together.

Going into Saturday’s state convention, here’s what has already happened. Last week came the announcement that members of the media would have to pay a $100 fee to cover the convention. Putting on the event is expensive, and state GOP leaders said that the $100 would help cover costs for the Quadrennial Convention, where the party chooses delegates to the Republican National Convention. Party leaders reversed that decision in just a few hours. Reporters no longer will be required to fork over $100 (interestingly, the fee for media was more expensive than for delegates or guests, $85 and $50, respectively).

[…]

This battle is likely to get bloody. Perhaps the GOP didn’t want the media — and by extension the public — to see the infighting. Whatever the motivation, the $100 fee is gone. The tribal no-press rule has been lifted.

Come Saturday, members of the media will be at the state GOP convention to witness the rumble, reporting back to readers just who will prevail in the struggle for control of New Mexico Republican Party. Stay tuned.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 19, 2016 • 2:36:33pm

re: #83 Kragar

Man, I just love that not-so-subtle insinuation that Trump is a millionaire, not a billionaire.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2016 • 2:36:45pm

re: #72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“This adorable long-haired dachshund named Arvo wanted to go to sleep, but it needed its teddy bear to cuddle with. It seemed like the bear was too big to fit in the dog’s kennel, but because of Arvo’s unwavering determination, the bear managed to be stuffed inside.”

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Video

My cat went to the neighbours to borrow a tiger plush toy :)

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2016 • 2:37:42pm

re: #86 stpaulbear

He hasn’t had a leg to stand on since NY and look at what happened in NV. When it’s convention time, i.e. last ditch effort, the hardcore Berners that show up will start some shit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 2:39:20pm

re: #91 Jebediah, RBG

Man, I just love that not-so-subtle insinuation that Trump is a millionaire, not a billionaire.

She needed to be sure Trump would understand it.

/

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Belafon  May 19, 2016 • 2:41:21pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

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Shouldn’t cats be carrying around blond haired boy dolls?

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2016 • 2:44:43pm

re: #95 Belafon

Shouldn’t cats be carrying around blond haired boy dolls?

I was assuming either Hobbes was being rescued from his servitude with the human child, or he was being catnapped…

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 2:45:03pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

The mighty huntress captures breakfast and brings it back to her lair.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 2:45:55pm

re: #96 FormerDirtDart

I was assuming either Hobbes was being rescued from his servitude with the human child, or he was being catnapped…

I’ve seen that one before—it’s just hilarious!

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 2:46:15pm
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Jenner7  May 19, 2016 • 2:48:04pm
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ObserverArt  May 19, 2016 • 2:48:32pm

re: #99 Kragar

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There has got to be a line some of these Republicans are going to cross to where it pisses of even the most dense of their idiot base.

Tell me there is. They are just getting totally out of hand and crapping on everyone.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 2:48:57pm

re: #99 Kragar

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So the only part of the Progressive Era reforms the Republicans haven’t destroyed yet is the direct election of Senators? That’s next I suppose.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  May 19, 2016 • 2:50:32pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 2:51:48pm

Maybe I missed this yesterday. If so, sorry. I laughed.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 2:51:55pm
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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 2:52:14pm

re: #101 ObserverArt

There has got to be a line some of these Republicans are going to cross to where it pisses of even the most dense of their idiot base.

Tell me there is. They are just getting totally out of hand and crapping on everyone.

If this is going to happen, it won’t be any time soon. The next step in the degeneration of the Republican party is upon us this cycle, in the form of Trumpism.

The GOP is now simply the party of “haters gonna hate”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 2:52:35pm
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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 2:53:23pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

And from Frank Luntz, a high-ranking GOP mouth of Sauron.

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Kragar  May 19, 2016 • 2:53:56pm

re: #100 Jenner7

GOP: “We demand the Federal government and let states and local government pass laws based on their beliefs.”

Small town: “Good, because our town wants to ban fracking, pass LGBT protections and raise the minimum wage.”

GOP: “No.”

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 2:54:48pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

The opposite of a birth.

How a murderer struggles to get rid of a body.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 2:56:42pm

re: #109 Kragar

GOP: “We demand the Federal government and let states and local government pass laws based on their beliefs.”

Small town: “Good, because our town wants to ban fracking, pass LGBT protections and raise the minimum wage.”

GOP: “No.”

More GOP hypocrisy. They only do that on days ending in ‘y’.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 2:56:42pm
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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 2:56:48pm

Albuquerque, Santa Fe, and Vado? That would be like Los Angeles, San Fransisco, and Hemet, except Hemet is an actual town with 20 times the population of Vado. Vado is where you run out of gas on the way to the El Paso airport. Maybe they have that scheduled.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 3:01:03pm
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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 3:01:25pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

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Totally valid.*

*in Alabama

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scottslemmons  May 19, 2016 • 3:01:36pm

re: #99 Kragar

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I have never, ever, ever understood the passion for fucking with sick leave. It makes absolutely negative sense. You run the risk of exposing employees, customers, and even management to illness. The only reason for Republicans to oppose sick leave is if you’re just some kind of twitching sadist who OH WAIT, NOW I UNDERSTAND

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 3:02:10pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 3:03:00pm

re: #113 wrenchwench

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Albuquerque, Santa Fe, and Vado? That would be like Los Angeles, San Fransisco, and Hemet, except Hemet is an actual town with 20 times the population of Vado. Vado is where you run out of gas on the way to the El Paso airport. Maybe they have that scheduled.

Is there some weird religious cult there? Like the Dutch Reformed Footloose town of Lynden WA that he avoided Seattle, Tacoma, or Everett for?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2016 • 3:03:26pm

re: #91 Jebediah, RBG

Man, I just love that not-so-subtle insinuation that Trump is a millionaire, not a billionaire.

THAT IS SO UNFAIR!!!11 I WILL SUE!!!1!!

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 3:03:37pm
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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2016 • 3:03:38pm
Return to Arkham with the remastered ‘Batman’ games

Batman fans, rejoice! Soon, you’ll be making another sojourn back into the Batman: Arkham video game franchise with the upcoming Batman: Return to Arkham remaster collection, releasing July 29th for $49.99.

Following leak after leak and silence from Warner Bros., a trailer finally dropped today showing off the graphical enhancements both games in the collection have undergone. Both Batman: Arkham Aslyum and Batman: Arkham City, as well as all of the DLC content previously released for both, is included with the package.

Both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One owners can get in on the fun, but curiously there’s no PC version announced as of yet. The ports for both consoles are being handled by Virtuos, the studio that worked on both Final Fantasy X and Heavy Rain’s remastered editions, and the games will feature improved graphics, models, lighting, effects and additional augments.

engadget.com

If they get around to releasing a PC version:

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Nyet  May 19, 2016 • 3:03:42pm

This day in the chronicles of sociopathy:
vox.com

But his post was still immediately met with a torrent of opposition, suggesting the depth of some Sanders fans’ opposition to his overall message: that they should get behind Clinton against Trump in November.

“No to fighting for Hillary. She’s never fought for me, so she has no right to expect me to fight for her,” wrote one reader in a Facebook comment that received more than 1,700 likes. “If Bernie doesn’t get the nomination, I’ll be writing him in anyway come November.”

Added another: “I think if Clinton supporters force her nomination they deserve a Trump Presidency!”

And a third: “No. Hillary is a monster, and the souls of the millions dead in Iraq, Libya, and Honduras because of us require us to say so loudly.”

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Brian J.  May 19, 2016 • 3:03:57pm

re: #100 Jenner7

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As has no doubt been pointed out elsewhere, there are nine contests remaining (PR, VI, NJ, NM, ND, SD, MT, CA, DC). Which state or territory is Bernie trying to wish into the cornfield?

By the way, Hillary received about 3,722,000 votes from those nine contests in 2008. If she matches that total this time, she’d have a grand total of 16,920,000 votes for the primary season. If she can win big in CA and/or NJ, she can still set a new primary season record, breaking her own mark of 17,857,501 from 2008.

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petesh  May 19, 2016 • 3:04:18pm

re: #64 EPR-radar

It’s only one vote, but I will make a special point of voting for Clinton in the CA primary this cycle. Normally the CA primary is a waste of time that I skip.

Me too. I really wanted to support Bernie, but I backed away for various reasons (at first connected with BLM; and Cornell West being his ambassador to, let’s say, a small minority of a large minority; and Dolores Huerta, who was disrespected by Bernie’s supporters) … and then there was his ignorance on large areas of policy … and his arrogance … and, especially over the last month, his acting like a complete asshole. This is not someone I want to see as President.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 19, 2016 • 3:04:18pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

That would be many people’s favorite discovery phase ever.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 3:04:22pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A ‘narrative’ would be from English class. This is from math class, the one they skipped.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2016 • 3:05:49pm

re: #116 scottslemmons

I have never, ever, ever understood the passion for fucking with sick leave. It makes absolutely negative sense. You run the risk of exposing employees, customers, and even management to illness. The only reason for Republicans to oppose sick leave is if you’re just some kind of twitching sadist who OH WAIT, NOW I UNDERSTAND

WHO DOESN’T LOVE SNOTBURGERS!!!

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2016 • 3:05:51pm

D.C. Police arrested a security guard yesterday at a Giant Grocery store after she assaulted a woman. Ebony Belcher, a transgender woman, told NBC4 that the incident occurred when she was trying to use the women’s restroom at the store at H and 3rd Streets NE.
“She opened the door and came in and started calling me derogatory names,” Belcher said to NBC, who called the police to file a report. She also said guard also told her, “You guys cannot keep coming in here and using our women’s restroom. They did not pass the law yet,” Belcher continued.

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Brian J.  May 19, 2016 • 3:07:25pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

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Charles, I think that ratio there is referring to the number of primary polls they did- that is, out of 15 FNC primary polls, six were of Democrats and nine were of Republicans. Mind you, their R+1 general election sample is bonkers.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 3:07:42pm

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

WHO DOESN’T LOVE SNOTBURGERS!!!

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The first person to get a snot burger should be a Republican governor. Bon Appetite.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 3:08:54pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

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Thanks Republicans.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 3:13:24pm

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

Perhaps dedicated Republicans are getting so divorced from reality that they no longer accept the germ theory of disease.

After all, it would be so much more ideologically satisfactory for GOPers to return to an earlier view where disease is merely the visible manifestation of God’s disfavor.

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KingKenrod  May 19, 2016 • 3:16:58pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

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Under-sampled independent voters - only 16% in the poll. The actual value is 42% according to Gallup.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 3:17:19pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 19, 2016 • 3:20:23pm

re: #37 darthstar

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 3:20:41pm
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jaunte  May 19, 2016 • 3:20:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 3:24:50pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

A ‘narrative’ would be from English class. This is from math class, the one they skipped.

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BlueGrl21  May 19, 2016 • 3:26:13pm

Our Republicans publish their Unabomber Manifesto every year under the mistaken impression that the rest of us give a shit.

It gets picked up nationally because yep, it’s ridiculous and yep, they deserve to be laughed at.

The fact that the same platform they publish EVERY YEAR is an un-Constitutional fever dream is part of the specialness of our homegrown loonies. They genuinely have no clue.

So, the big cities ignore them and are run by Dems and the rest of the state has to watch the Federal courts slap state government around over and over. And we all drink a lot of beer.

Do not ever elect a Texas Republican to national office again, under any circumstances. We can contain them here.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 3:26:45pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I got my minor In paid Clinton operative.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2016 • 3:26:54pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

A ‘narrative’ would be from English class. This is from math class, the one they skipped.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 3:28:28pm

re: #141 Timothy Watson

Ironic, given that it’s the woman in the race who understands the numbers - and has proved so before.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 3:31:21pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 3:31:39pm

re: #135 Eric The Fruit Bat

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I love that image! First one I ever uploaded here. Cracks me up every time.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 19, 2016 • 3:33:05pm

re: #139 BlueGrl21

Do not ever elect a Texas Republican to national office again, under any circumstances. We can contain them here.

Very much appreciated, thank you!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 3:35:16pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

A ‘narrative’ would be from English class. This is from math class, the one they skipped.

“Math”, Hell. It’s first-grade arithmetic. I thought the GOPers were stupid….

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Nyet  May 19, 2016 • 3:37:04pm

re: #146 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Math”, Hell. It’s first-grade arithmetic. I thought the GOPers were stupid….

He is not even stupid, he knows very well what the math is at this point. But he has to say something. Desperation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 3:37:52pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 3:38:00pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 3:39:01pm

; z

Problem Child wanted to join the comments.

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Nyet  May 19, 2016 • 3:40:18pm

re: #149 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The best.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 19, 2016 • 3:40:21pm

re: #144 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And so very apropos to that eeejet.

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Nyet  May 19, 2016 • 3:40:28pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 3:40:33pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heh snap.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 3:40:55pm

re: #147 Nyet

He is not even stupid, he knows very well what the math is at this point. But he has to say something. Desperation.

The same person responsible for Bernie’s math must have decided to make a stop in Vado, NM.

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ipsos  May 19, 2016 • 3:43:49pm

Too harsh?

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Bubblehead II  May 19, 2016 • 3:44:26pm

CNN clickbait.

With party divided, Clinton doesn’t rule out Sanders as VP pick

Washington (CNN) Hillary Clinton didn’t rule out Wednesday picking her Democratic presidential primary challenger, Bernie Sanders, from serving as her vice president.

“I won’t get into that,” she told CNN’s Chris Cuomo in an exclusive interview, when asked if giving Sanders a spot on the ticket would help bring the party together.

She also declined to answer if Sanders was in consideration for the No. 2 slot.

Bernie isn’t going to be the nominee and he sure as hell isn’t going to be the veep pick. Especially if he follows through on threats to fuck over the Democratic “establishment” for not selecting him.

I’ll be honest here. I voted McCain/Palin in 08. I held my nose, but I did vote for them. But after Obama won, I also said I would supported him as he was after all, OUR President. Then the republican party imploded and went into meltdown mode and I realized just how badly fucked up they were, and unlike a certain Lizard, knew there was no way I could ever support them again, so I voted for Obama in 2012.

Now it’s 2016 and I was given two choices. Hillary or Bernie. It didn’t take to much research to see that Bernie was a one trick pony who didn’t stand an ice cubes chance in hell of getting the nomination so I caucused (open) for Hilary here in Idaho.

She lost, given this IS Idaho, it was more or less expected.

But the plain and simple fact is that Hilary has way more experience and depth than Bernie and was from the start the only logical choice and I suspect that the only reason Bernie even changed affiliation and ran as a Democrat was to pull the Democrats further left to see some of his ideas brought to light.

Then his ego got away from him and the rest, as they say, is history.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 3:44:55pm
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KGxvi  May 19, 2016 • 3:47:20pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

That PPP poll I posted this morning, McCain was struggling in the primary and the general election. But if he really said that, I just going to go ahead and say he’s going to lose one of those two elections.

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BlueGrl21  May 19, 2016 • 3:47:52pm

re: #145 Jebediah, RBG

Very much appreciated, thank you!

No problem, man. :)

Texas Dems take one for the team as much as possible. We’ll take 50 if needed. Just help us keep ‘em within our borders, people.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 3:48:15pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

I liked McCain in 2000.

What I saw in 2008 was just sad.

I’m not sure how to describe this one.

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KGxvi  May 19, 2016 • 3:49:11pm

re: #161 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I liked McCain in 2000.

What I saw in 2008 was just sad.

I’m not sure how to describe this one.

Seconded on every point.

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 3:49:18pm

re: #160 BlueGrl21

No problem, man. :)

Texas Dems take one for the team as much as possible. We’ll take 50 if needed. Just help us keep ‘em within our borders, people.

If we build a wall, will you pay for it? The Mexicans might be good for a chunk.

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Great White Snark  May 19, 2016 • 3:49:40pm

re: #161 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I liked McCain in 2000.

What I saw in 2008 was just sad.

I’m not sure how to describe this one.

Overdue for retirement. Ya gotta know when to say when.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 3:50:03pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

If we build a wall, will you pay for it? The Mexicans might be good for a chunk.

I’m not sure if I’m laughing because that’s actually funny or because I had a drink to celebrate east coast 5pm.

But I’m laughing a lot more than I should be at that.

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majii  May 19, 2016 • 3:50:15pm

This is the kind of thing that a political party does when it has completely run out of ideas for governing effectively and responsibly on behalf of all citizens, which is another way of saying that the GOP/TP of Texas is only willing to offer its citizens a huge nothing-burger while claiming to offer them everything under the sun, especially freedumb. This reminds me of Ryan’s response to the president’s latest tweak to insure that workers are adequately compensated for their labor. He claims to be in favor of increasing workers’ wages while doing everything within his power to insure that they don’t see even a one cent increase in their paychecks. Back in the day, this was known as “talking out of both sides of one’s mouth at the same time.” It’s known today as selling BS.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 3:50:28pm

re: #164 Great White Snark

Overdue for retirement. Ya gotta know when to say when.

He’s even got enough to retire on! No excuse.

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 3:51:16pm

re: #155 wrenchwench

The same person responsible for Bernie’s math must have decided to make a stop in Vado, NM.

Do they have, like, killer tacos or something?

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darthstar  May 19, 2016 • 3:51:18pm

re: #156 ipsos

Too harsh?

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Not if you actually believe Bernie is a racist, misogynist, homophobic billionaire.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 3:52:06pm

re: #168 Decatur Deb

Do they have, like, killer tacos or something?

Now I want to go into town and get the burrito bowl with chorizo and avocado and black beans mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm so good.

Instead dinner tonight is beef and barley soup.

:(

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darthstar  May 19, 2016 • 3:52:14pm

re: #169 darthstar

Not if you actually believe Bernie is a racist, misogynist, homophobic billionaire.

But his words seem to defy that label:

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 3:53:27pm

re: #171 darthstar

But his words seem to defy that label:

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I would agree with you on that. Too bad the same generosity can;t be afforded Clinton’s way eh?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 3:54:19pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is just sad. But then again McCain went from working with Kennedy on immigration to build the dang fence. McCain is showing he’ll do anything for political survival at this point.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 3:55:26pm

re: #161 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I liked McCain in 2000.

What I saw in 2008 was just sad.

I’m not sure how to describe this one.

He really was a shell of his former self in 2008. He was contradicting a lot of what made him have legitimate crossover appeal in 2000.

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darthstar  May 19, 2016 • 3:55:34pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

I would agree with you on that. Too bad the same generosity can;t be afforded Clinton’s way eh?

This one wasn’t about Clinton. But yes, she doesn’t sound like a racist, misogynist, homophobic billionaire either.

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BlueGrl21  May 19, 2016 • 3:56:04pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

If we build a wall, will you pay for it? The Mexicans might be good for a chunk.

Now, I’m not willing to be locked in here with them and my relatives without a break sometimes. We’re going to have to plan this out!

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darthstar  May 19, 2016 • 3:56:09pm

See? I can say nice shit about Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 3:57:29pm

re: #175 darthstar

This one wasn’t about Clinton. But yes, she doesn’t sound like a racist, misogynist, homophobic billionaire either.

No, I’m talking about the people who basically say Clinton is a Republican. I have problems with Bernie but I don’t think he’s a Republican even though he’s too chicken to call out the NRA.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 3:57:49pm

re: #168 Decatur Deb

Do they have, like, killer tacos or something?

Hispanic or Latino of any race were 95.00% of the population.

They must. No restaurants, though, so you’d need an invitation.

vado new mexico

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 19, 2016 • 4:01:55pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Don’t forget that he was also part of the Keating Five.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 19, 2016 • 4:03:55pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:03:57pm

re: #180 Eric The Fruit Bat

Don’t forget that he was also part of the Keating Five.

That’s true as well. I don’t think McCain was what a lot of people thought he was in 2000. The guy after all did oppose a MLK birthday holiday in the 80’s. There’s not a second that passes by that I don’t feel grateful we voted Obama in over McCain. Even without Palin, McCain would have been a trainwreck.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 4:04:14pm

re: #177 darthstar

See? I can say nice shit about Hillary.

We have faith in you Darth.

Bernie is coming to Vista CA this Sunday. My friends are going, but I’m not. I’ll let you know their report.

They are taking their teenagers, so that good. Glad the kids care.

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darthstar  May 19, 2016 • 4:04:58pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

No, I’m talking about the people who basically say Clinton is a Republican. I have problems with Bernie but I don’t think he’s a Republican even though he’s too chicken to call out the NRA.

He’s supported the assault weapons ban. Gets a D- from the NRA - no, it’s not an F, but it’s not exactly high praise either.

Do I agree with him on everything? No. He supports drone strikes. I don’t. Obama and Clinton support them too. I still don’t. I take issue with some guy sitting in Nevada remotely blowing up buildings that may or may not have innocent people in them on the other side of the planet. People talk about jobs they could never do? That’s one for me. Are drone strikes better when a Democratic president orders them? I think we worry too much about labels in this country.

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Brian J.  May 19, 2016 • 4:07:30pm

re: #183 Stanley Sea

We have faith in you Darth.

Bernie is coming to Vista CA this Sunday. My friends are going, but I’m not. I’ll let you know their report.

They are taking their teenagers, so that good. Glad the kids care.

I’m afraid I can’t agree. Filling your kids with hopes that you know are going to be smashed doesn’t help anything. Nor does voting for demagogues like Bernie Trump or Donald Sanders, who’ve been around the lawmaking process for decades but never figured out how it works.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2016 • 4:08:28pm

re: #3 Romantic Heretic

I’m thinking that if they want out so badly they should be allowed to. Perhaps a couple of decades as a 3rd world nation might make them appreciate living in a civilized country.

Or not.

If they want a wall on their Southern border, perhaps we should give them walls on all their other borders, too.

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nines09  May 19, 2016 • 4:08:46pm
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Skip Intro  May 19, 2016 • 4:08:53pm

re: #171 darthstar

But his words seem to defy that label:

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Kind of like every other nation on earth. It’s a human thing.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 4:12:03pm

re: #185 Brian J.

I’m afraid I can’t agree. Filling your kids with hopes that you know are going to be smashed doesn’t help anything. Nor does voting for demagogues like Bernie Trump or Donald Sanders, who’ve been around the lawmaking process for decades but never figured out how it works.

Nah, totally disagree. Bernie is not trump.

trump is trump.

Teenagers wanting to go to a political rally on a Sunday? I think that is a great thing. But I do admit I don’t feel the same about teenagers going to a trump rally. Because that guy is a demagogue. Zero, absolutely zero redeeming qualities.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2016 • 4:13:13pm

Status: Pleasantly Surprised
Lo and behold, but what do I find in my mailbox after walking the dogs?
My brand spanking new Duval County Florida Voter Identification Card.

I had completed the online change of registration process a few days after completing my move, but was left with the feeling I was going to need to make the journey down to one of the county offices to complete the process in person.
Took a couple weeks longer than advertised, but completed none the less. And, without having to supply them with a file cabinet of documents…

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2016 • 4:13:57pm
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gocart mozart  May 19, 2016 • 4:14:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 4:15:19pm

donald knows things…

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Bass Reeves  May 19, 2016 • 4:15:45pm

re: #184 darthstar

He’s supported the assault weapons ban. Gets a D- from the NRA - no, it’s not an F, but it’s not exactly high praise either.

Do I agree with him on everything? No. He supports drone strikes. I don’t. Obama and Clinton support them too. I still don’t. I take issue with some guy sitting in Nevada remotely blowing up buildings that may or may not have innocent people in them on the other side of the planet. People talk about jobs they could never do? That’s one for me. Are drone strikes better when a Democratic president orders them? I think we worry too much about labels in this country.

On this issue, I would respectfully submit that you may not know enough about what goes into the process for drone strikes. It is far, far more deliberate than a guy sitting in Nevada. Airstrikes are NOT, in fact, more precise when the person in control is getting shot at. And the targeting process is actually the same whether or not we are putting people physically near the target or not. So…yeah.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:16:11pm

re: #184 darthstar

He’s supported the assault weapons ban. Gets a D- from the NRA - no, it’s not an F, but it’s not exactly high praise either.

Do I agree with him on everything? No. He supports drone strikes. I don’t. Obama and Clinton support them too. I still don’t. I take issue with some guy sitting in Nevada remotely blowing up buildings that may or may not have innocent people in them on the other side of the planet. People talk about jobs they could never do? That’s one for me. Are drone strikes better when a Democratic president orders them? I think we worry too much about labels in this country.

I’m just saying that he has holes in his record that get ignored that would not if any other candidate had them. He loves to talk about corporate responsibility (a topic I should emphasize I agree strongly with him on) but he’s quiet about it when it comes to guns. I just think it’s insincere. I’m not suggesting that you have to agree with Clinton on anything and hell you do seem to get the big picture here that Clinton is miles ahead of Trump so I don’t really have a problem with you. What I do have a problem is with his campaign acting like it is the only arbiter of progressivism when Bernie himself has some holes on that front and his record on guns, immigration (Ask Luis Guitterez, probably the most influential member in Congress about how Bernie is on that issue), and the environmental issue that many called one of the worst acts of environmental racism. He’s a politician and I’m tired of his supporters acting like he does only good thigns which flat out is a lie.

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Targetpractice  May 19, 2016 • 4:16:52pm

re: #191 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:17:13pm

re: #191 FormerDirtDart

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Yeah I’m seeing that pushed on Facebook.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 19, 2016 • 4:17:19pm
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darthstar  May 19, 2016 • 4:17:29pm

re: #185 Brian J.

I’m afraid I can’t agree. Filling your kids with hopes that you know are going to be smashed doesn’t help anything. Nor does voting for demagogues like Bernie Trump or Donald Sanders, who’ve been around the lawmaking process for decades but never figured out how it works.

Some people get emotionally invested in their candidate and feel like the world is coming to an end if they lose or if anyone says anything less than complimentary about them. I did that with Gore in 2000. So I understand where you’re coming from.

I don’t think it’s so much filling kids with hopes as it is promising to fight for their futures as best you can. Nobody expected a $15 national minimum wage or free tuition at state colleges by the end of Bernie’s term - but it would have been nice having him work toward those goals - I suspect a lot of Americans would have worked with him on that.

Hell, I don’t expect a $12 minimum wage from Hillary - Obama’s still fighting for $10.10 and not getting it. But I do expect her to at least give us the impression she’s fighting for $12. Because if she doesn’t a whole lot of people will be disappointed, and let’s face it, she could use a little positive energy behind her.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 4:18:26pm

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Testy Toad T  May 19, 2016 • 4:18:57pm

re: #124 petesh

and Cornell West being his ambassador to, let’s say, a small minority of a large minority;

I try not to judge people based on appearances, but having a guy like Cornell West be one of your prominent spokespeople ought to set off a few sirens.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 4:19:22pm

re: #194 Bass Reeves

On this issue, I would respectfully submit that you may not know enough about what goes into the process for drone strikes. It is far, far more deliberate than a guy sitting in Nevada. Airstrikes are NOT, in fact, more precise when the person in control is getting shot at. And the targeting process is actually the same whether or not we are putting people physically near the target or not. So…yeah.

Carpet bombing a city to take out a guy who may or may not be there is much more manly. Drones are for wimps.

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 4:19:49pm

re: #191 FormerDirtDart

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Rassmussen does for the GOP what a glamour photographer does for your aunt.

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Targetpractice  May 19, 2016 • 4:20:52pm

re: #203 Decatur Deb

Rassmussen does for the GOP what a glamour photographer does for your aunt.

What’s hilarious is that wingnuts will look at that poll and still think it’s “skewed.”

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BlueGrl21  May 19, 2016 • 4:21:09pm

re: #186 Blind Frog Belly White

If they want a wall on their Southern border, perhaps we should give them walls on all their other borders, too.

Now, now, plenty of us are Texas Yellow Dog Dems of many generations (5 for me). We fight the good fight and this is going to be a purple state pretty damn soon.

And the Republican-controlled Texas Lege just refused to even consider a bill to secede that some backwoods legislative troll from Buttcrack, Texas proposed. Not even they are that stupid.

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ipsos  May 19, 2016 • 4:21:23pm

OK, my earlier annoyed effort was indeed too harsh. And then the second-grader got hold of the laptop and started playing with the generator…

(It was marginally better than “WORSE THAN EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA,” at least.)

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 4:22:19pm

re: #205 BlueGrl21

Now, now, plenty of us are Texas Yellow Dog Dems of many generations (5 for me). We fight the good fight and this is going to be a purple state pretty damn soon.

And the Republican-controlled Texas Lege just refused to even consider a bill to secede that some backwoods legislative troll from Buttcrack, Texas proposed. Not even they are that stupid.

OK, Two drawbridges, then.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2016 • 4:22:54pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

Every media pundit just had a full-body orgasm. The horse race is on!

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re: #197 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m seeing that pushed on Facebook.

re: #203 Decatur Deb

Rassmussen does for the GOP what a glamour photographer does for your aunt.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 4:22:59pm

re: #194 Bass Reeves

On this issue, I would respectfully submit that you may not know enough about what goes into the process for drone strikes. It is far, far more deliberate than a guy sitting in Nevada. Airstrikes are NOT, in fact, more precise when the person in control is getting shot at. And the targeting process is actually the same whether or not we are putting people physically near the target or not. So…yeah.

Plus, I thought some of the guys were in New Mexico, not all in Nevada.

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The Great Eye  May 19, 2016 • 4:23:19pm

re: #202 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Carpet bombing a city to take out a guy who may or may not be there is much more manly. Drones are for wimps.

I’ve never really gotten the anger over drone strikes. The US is in the business of ‘killing bad guys’ and if the President gets actionable intelligence about a bad guy being in a location, generally speaking his options are using a bomber or a drone to hit the target. It’s just another club in the golf bag and outlawing drones just means more bombers or if they got enough time/assets in the area, sending in a special forces unit. The end result is always going to be an attack launched on the area to kill the bad guy, the only question is how many Americans get attacked as a result.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2016 • 4:23:22pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Before even thinking about the friends or relatives and offering up thoughts and prayers, he’s thinking it’s terrorism and we haven’t even found any wreckage or evidence to support or deny the claim that it was terrorism.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 4:25:04pm

re: #210 The Great Eye

Most of the people who are mad about this don’t want us doing anything. Period.

We should only respond if directly attacked by another army, near as I can tell.

You see a lot with people who also want to deny that the economy is now a global thing and that manufacturing jobs probably aren’t coming back in vast quantities, and just pretend that if we wall ourselves off from the rest of the world we’ll be able to build that utopia.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2016 • 4:25:12pm

re: #103 Grunthos the Flatulent

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Bubblehead II  May 19, 2016 • 4:26:27pm

BTW Charles, the tweet function on the generator isn’t working (at least for me).

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Testy Toad T  May 19, 2016 • 4:26:34pm

re: #210 The Great Eye

I’ve never really gotten the anger over drone strikes. The US is in the business of ‘killing bad guys’ and if the President gets actionable intelligence about a bad guy being in a location, generally speaking his options are using a bomber or a drone to hit the target.

I think there’s one rational argument in the anti-UCAV quiver: that policymakers are prone to get overeager about intervention when there’s zero US skin in the game. That is, there are military actions that are net-negative but might seem net-positive to a politician who is used to the calculus involving US deaths.

I think the primary argument is the irrational one, that robots are scary and something something impersonal.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 4:27:37pm

re: #211 lawhawk

Before even thinking about the friends or relatives and offering up thoughts and prayers, he’s thinking it’s terrorism and we haven’t even found any wreckage or evidence to support or deny the claim that it was terrorism.

That sudden left turn suggests a catastrophic failure of the left engine to me. Either that or evasive action from an approaching missile. Could be anything at this point.

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Testy Toad T  May 19, 2016 • 4:28:14pm

re: #211 lawhawk

Before even thinking about the friends or relatives and offering up thoughts and prayers, he’s thinking it’s terrorism and we haven’t even found any wreckage or evidence to support or deny the claim that it was terrorism.

There you go with your fact-based worldview again.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:28:37pm

Well regarding drones. And I understand the distaste for them since there have been civilian causalities. Bombing and ground operations would result in those too. It’s a difficult issue. Honestly, one thing we should be doing is working to build goodwill globally to lessen the appeal of groups like ISIS, Al Queda, and others to the young people of the Islamic world.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:30:47pm

Al Franken on Jeopardy tonight, cool.

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majii  May 19, 2016 • 4:31:18pm

re: #201 Testy Toad T

It does. Sanders seemed to think that if he trotted Cornel West out to speak on his behalf, we blacks would line up behind him. Trump did the same thing with those two black female YouTubers. I don’t know, or care, who they hell they are. I don’t depend on other so-called reps to determine for whom I’ll vote. Dragging Cornel out backfired on Sanders. Why? Because, in general, among the many blacks I know, we don’t think much of Cornel West and tend to view him as someone who talks a good game but doesn’t put his money where his mouth is. He’s made millions, but how much of it has he taken and invested in job training programs, healthcare, education, etc. to help improve the lives of less fortunate Americans? Plus, I think he’s petty and carries long-term grudges. He’s still angry because he wasn’t a special guest at the president’s first inauguration and didn’t get a ringside seat on the dais. I didn’t see sh*t he’d done to help Obama win, and I read about his campaign every, single, day. I heard no mention of Cornel West stumping for the president, raising money for him, or showing up at campaign events. He needs to realize that just because he’s a legend in his own mind doesn’t mean he’s the same in the minds of others. Hell, if he and I were walking on the same side of a street, I’d cross to the other side to avoid all contact with his pompous ass. Straight up. I read that he and Tavis Smiley joined up with Walmart a few years back but very little came from the association other than more money going into their bank accounts. West is a very poor choice for a rep/campaign surrogate for a candidate who claims to “hate” Wall Street because West has been taking advantage of his Wall Street ties for a long time.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 4:32:11pm
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Testy Toad T  May 19, 2016 • 4:33:06pm

re: #220 majii

West is a very poor choice for a rep/campaign surrogate for a candidate

He’s an excellent choice for a surrogate for a factional candidate who seems to value shouting about problems over compromising to find solutions.

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calochortus  May 19, 2016 • 4:33:31pm

re: #155 wrenchwench

The same person responsible for Bernie’s math must have decided to make a stop in Vado, NM.

Maybe El Paso was too close to the border for him?

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 4:35:12pm

re: #223 calochortus

Maybe El Paso was too close to the border for him?

He’s gotta be flying out of El Paso. The only other reason to go that way is if you’re headed for Juarez.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2016 • 4:36:15pm

re: #222 Testy Toad T

He’s an excellent choice for a surrogate for a factional candidate who seems to value shouting about problems over compromising to find solutions.

I’ve had to stop myself posting anything about Sanders and his supporters on FB, because I’ve completely had it with them, but I don’t want needlessly antagonize any of his supporters who aren’t complete assholes.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2016 • 4:36:51pm

re: #211 lawhawk

Before even thinking about the friends or relatives and offering up thoughts and prayers, he’s thinking it’s terrorism and we haven’t even found any wreckage or evidence to support or deny the claim that it was terrorism.

Trump doesn’t think anything. He knows that his opinion is so important that the world is just begging for him to use his psychic powers to tell us what really happened.

If it turns out that Trump was wrong, nobody will remember and nobody will care, certainly not the media.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 4:37:27pm

re: #210 The Great Eye

I’ve never really gotten the anger over drone strikes. The US is in the business of ‘killing bad guys’ and if the President gets actionable intelligence about a bad guy being in a location, generally speaking his options are using a bomber or a drone to hit the target. It’s just another club in the golf bag and outlawing drones just means more bombers or if they got enough time/assets in the area, sending in a special forces unit. The end result is always going to be an attack launched on the area to kill the bad guy, the only question is how many Americans get attacked as a result.

This business of the US ‘killing bad guys’ is inherently messy.

Kim Jong Un is one of the baddest bad guys on the planet. However, he is in no danger from a US strike, and not just because North Korea has a few nukes. That establishes that we are talking only about targets of opportunity, where the US can rub them out if they are operating in parts of the world where the US can act with relative impunity.

There’s no way to avoid the conclusion that this is essentially “might makes right”, and I can’t imagine policies and procedures that would really limit it to appropriate cases if the rot starts coming from the top (e.g., POTUS Trump).

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 4:37:43pm

re: #221 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

How does this kind of ignorance not hurt your head?

New Jersey city defends Sikh official after Trump-loving Twitter troll calls him a ‘terrorist’

trumpeffect

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Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2016 • 4:38:02pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

That’s because the GOP conundrum was starting to kick in.

1. If a candidate has GOP appeal that candidate will lose any possible crossover votes.

2. If a candidate has crossover appeal that candidate will lose the GOP votes.

Can’t square that circle.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:38:52pm

re: #229 Romantic Heretic

That’s because the GOP conundrum was starting to kick in.

1. If a candidate has GOP appeal that candidate will lose any possible crossover votes.

2. If a candidate has crossover appeal that candidate will lose the GOP votes.

Can’t square that circle.

For sure.

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2016 • 4:38:55pm

re: #224 wrenchwench

He’s gotta be flying out of El Paso. The only other reason to go that way is if you’re headed for Juarez.

Maybe he’s lost.

“When you’re lost in the rain in Juarez and it’s Easter time too
When your gravity fails you and negativity don’t pull you through
Don’t you put on any airs when you’re lost on Rue Morgue Avenue
They got some hungry creatures there, they’ll surely make a mess out of you”

Nina Simone Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 4:39:13pm

re: #226 Skip Intro

Trump doesn’t think anything. He knows that his opinion is so important that the world is just begging for him to use his psychic powers to tell us what really happened.

If it turns out that Trump was wrong, nobody will remember and nobody will care, certainly not the media.

Trump wants the downed airplane to be terrorism because that will help his fear-based campaign of demagoguery.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 4:39:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 4:39:20pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 19, 2016 • 4:40:26pm

New York Times staffer tweets out op-ed critical of Trump, faces anti-Semitic avalanche

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 4:41:17pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2016 • 4:41:23pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

Maybe he’s lost.

“When you’re lost in the rain in Juarez and it’s Easter time too
When your gravity fails you and negativity don’t pull you through
Don’t you put on any airs when you’re lost on Rue Morgue Avenue
They got some hungry creatures there, they’ll surely make a mess out of you”

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Video

Where’s your tip jar?!?

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2016 • 4:42:40pm

re: #232 EPR-radar

Trump wants the downed airplane to be terrorism because that will help his fear-based campaign of demagoguery.

That’s not just how he runs his campaign, it’s from the only page in the GOP playbook.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2016 • 4:42:45pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

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But wouldn’t that thwart the Will O’ Th’ People?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:43:13pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

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And if my name was Michael, it would be Michael. Shaun needs to get that Bernie is losing in the popular vote. There is literally no reason for those superdelegates to give their votes to Bernie. I just love the complaining about the SDs and then wishing and hoping that the superdelegates ignore the wishes of the voters and give the nomination to Bernie on a platter.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 4:43:15pm

re: #235 Eric The Fruit Bat

New York Times staffer tweets out op-ed critical of Trump, faces anti-Semitic avalanche

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fuck. I reported him.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 4:43:36pm

re: #239 Blind Frog Belly White

But wouldn’t that thwart the Will O’ Th’ People?

Doesn’t matter, Hillary’s campaign is missing in positive energy.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:43:44pm

re: #239 Blind Frog Belly White

But wouldn’t that thwart the Will O’ Th’ People?

Well we know anything supporting Bernie is for the people and anything supporting Clinton is for the oligarchical machine!

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2016 • 4:44:16pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

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That is one of the stupidest things I’ve read today, and I’ve already seen most of Trump’s comments.

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Testy Toad T  May 19, 2016 • 4:44:18pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

Of all of the various supporters/boosters/etc, Shaun King is the one whose existence I find the most confusing. Like… he can’t possibly believe all the shit he says, can he?

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Brian J.  May 19, 2016 • 4:44:28pm

re: #199 darthstar

I don’t think it’s so much filling kids with hopes as it is promising to fight for their futures as best you can. Nobody expected a $15 national minimum wage or free tuition at state colleges by the end of Bernie’s term - but it would have been nice having him work toward those goals - I suspect a lot of Americans would have worked with him on that.

Hell, I don’t expect a $12 minimum wage from Hillary - Obama’s still fighting for $10.10 and not getting it. But I do expect her to at least give us the impression she’s fighting for $12. Because if she doesn’t a whole lot of people will be disappointed, and let’s face it, she could use a little positive energy behind her.

Except that is what Bernie claimed he could do, with no ideas as to how he’d get the states to sign on to his health care and college nationalization programs- the same states who’ve fought tooth and nail to KEEP FROM TAKING FREE MONEY because Obama offered it- or how to elect a Congress that might pass it, since he’s despised on the Hill and has made no effort to support candidates who might agree with him.

And once you’ve called her corrupt (without any more evidence than poor, hapless Draco Malfoy, I mean Trey Gowdy of the Benghazi Committee), then why on Earth should she work with you since you’ve made it clear that you’ll never trust her and that she should not trust you?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2016 • 4:44:37pm

Interesting. Most of the dKos posts in my FB feed are various versions of telling Bernie and the Berniebots to STFU.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 4:44:45pm

re: #220 majii

It does. Sanders seemed to think that if he trotted Cornel West out to speak on his behalf, we blacks would line up behind him. Trump did the same thing with those two black female YouTubers. I don’t know, or care, who they hell they are. I don’t depend on other so-called reps to determine for whom I’ll vote. Dragging Cornel out backfired on Sanders. Why? Because, in general, among the many blacks I know, we don’t think much of Cornel West and tend to view him as someone who talks a good game but doesn’t put his money where his mouth is. He’s made millions, but how much of it has he taken and invested in job training programs, healthcare, education, etc. to help any improve the lives of less fortunate Americans? Plus, I think he’s petty and carries long-term grudges. He’s still angry because he wasn’t a special guest at the president’s first inauguration and didn’t get a ringside seat on the dais. I didn’t see sh*t he’d done to help Obama win, and I read about his campaign every, single, day. I heard no mention of Cornel West stumping for the president, raising money for him, or showing up at campaign events. He needs to realize that just because he’s a legend in his own mind doesn’t mean he’s the same in the minds of others. Hell, if he and I were walking on the same side of a street, I’d cross to the other side to avoid all contact with his pompous ass. Straight up. I read that he and Tavis Smiley joined up with Walmart a few years back but very little came from the association other than more money going into their bank accounts. West is a very poor choice for a rep/campaign surrogate for a candidate who claims to “hate” Wall Street because West has been taking advantage of his Wall Street ties for a long time.

Sanders should have dumped West eleven months ago when he said this insane bullshit. The fact that Bernie continued to use him as a surrogate after that just showed that West wasn’t on the team as part of an honest outreach effort to black voters. He was there to form a kind of faux patina of black support for Sanders that would assuage any white Berners who might otherwise have been uncomfortable by his mostly homogenous base.

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Bass Reeves  May 19, 2016 • 4:44:55pm

re: #227 EPR-radar

I think if they were places we truly thought we could operate with impunity, we’d put boots on the ground, because we wouldn’t even have to declare it a combat zone. We use drones primarily in places too risky to get to, or where the political will of the area prevents us from establishing a sustainable footprint.

I do see US foreign policy as a large game of whackamole, where moles pop up in proportion to how hard we smacked the last one down, because they are all interconnected under the board. But the idea that drones are used in a fundamentally different way than other means of force is flawed. If we think we shouldn’t use drones, we think we shouldn’t use force. Which is an absolutely valid argument, but it is not the argument that the anti-drone faction is usually making. It’s odd, sometimes it seems like the best way of conducting combat is putting troops in harms way, but that argument usually doesn’t come from the troops.

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calochortus  May 19, 2016 • 4:45:34pm

I, for one, will be voting for the corrupt machine of the oligarchs. And I’ll be doing it next week since we’ll be away on election day. So there.

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Lancelot Link  May 19, 2016 • 4:46:30pm

re: #223 calochortus

Maybe El Paso was too close to the border for him?

A little too close to Sierra Blanca, perhaps

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 4:46:52pm
253
FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2016 • 4:47:03pm
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Bubblehead II  May 19, 2016 • 4:47:41pm

re: #227 EPR-radar

This business of the US ‘killing bad guys’ is inherently messy.

Kim Jong Un is one of the baddest bad guys on the planet. However, he is in no danger from a US strike, and not just because North Korea has a few nukes. That establishes that we are talking only about targets of opportunity, where the US can rub them out if they are operating in parts of the world where the US can act with relative impunity.

There’s no way to avoid the conclusion that this is essentially “might makes right”, and I can’t imagine policies and procedures that would really limit it to appropriate cases if the rot starts coming from the top (e.g., POTUS Trump).

He is also a head of state. We found out during the Kennedy administration that trying to take out heads of states (Castro) is counter productive. On the other hand, taking out the leadership of terrorist organizations is seen as a good thing by most countries.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 19, 2016 • 4:49:43pm

re: #241 Stanley Sea

For all the good it will do you-that loathsome scum has been posting that same shit for years.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 4:49:49pm

re: #248 goddamnedfrank

Link didn’t wok

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Jenner7  May 19, 2016 • 4:50:01pm

Hopefully Bernie can learn the lessons Hillary did after she lost.

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Brian J.  May 19, 2016 • 4:50:40pm

re: #248 goddamnedfrank

Sanders should have dumped West eleven months ago when he said this insane bullshit. The fact that Bernie continued to use him as a surrogate after that just showed that West wasn’t on the team as part of an honest outreach effort to black voters. He was there to form a kind of faux patina of black support for Sanders that would assuage any white Berners who might otherwise have been uncomfortable by his mostly homogenous base.

There just wasn’t anyone else, other than Keith Ellison, who’s not exactly a household name. He did OK in Illinois among nonwhite voters with some quick yah-boo against Rahm Emanuel, bot other than that, who’ve been his spokespeople? Shaun King? Susan Sarandon? Killer Mike and T.I.? These are signs of a bare cupboard, from which the nails have been removed to be sold as scrap metal.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 4:51:09pm

re: #250 calochortus

I, for one, will be voting for the corrupt machine of the oligarchs. And I’ll be doing it next week since we’ll be away on election day. So there.

My neighborhood has not received our ballots. I’ve checked with everyone I know.

WTF.

I’m going to call tomorrow if it isn’t there.

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calochortus  May 19, 2016 • 4:52:20pm

re: #259 Stanley Sea

We’re just going to go in to our early voting center (or whatever they call it.)

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:52:44pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

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That is reassuring. Honestly, I really think most people will see the picture when it becomes apparent holy shit Trump could be President.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:54:37pm

re: #258 Brian J.

There just wasn’t anyone else, other than Keith Ellison, who’s not exactly a household name. He did OK in Illinois among nonwhite voters with some quick yah-boo against Rahm Emanuel, bot other than that, who’ve been his spokespeople? Shaun King? Susan Sarandon? Killer Mike and T.I.? These are signs of a bare cupboard, from which the nails have been removed to be sold as scrap metal.

It really did amaze me how he had such little support from his colleagues. I mean I get that many lined up behind Clinton early but for someone in Congress as long as he has, it really amazed me how little Congressional support he had.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2016 • 4:54:47pm

re: #217 Testy Toad T

There you go with your fact-based worldview again.

I hate when I revert to logic and reasoning. /

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 4:55:50pm
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calochortus  May 19, 2016 • 4:56:56pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

It really did amaze me how he had such little support from his colleagues. I mean I get that many lined up behind Clinton early but for someone in Congress as long as he has, it really amazed me how little Congressional support he had.

Politics is a team sport, and he’s an independent in every way.

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Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2016 • 4:57:57pm

re: #215 Testy Toad T

My objection to drone strikes has to do with my objection to the whole ‘War on Terror’.

‘Declaring war’ on Al Qaeda or Daesh or whatever the terror organization du jour is gives those groups a cachet they do not deserve. It raises them to the status of nations when all they are is criminal organizations. Even Daesh, which does control some land, is basically a group of bandits that get away with the shit they do because the nations in the area are too weak to deal with them.

They should be dealt with by law enforcement methods. As Tom Clancy’s book A Clear and Present Danger pointed out using military against criminals is likely to spiral out of control.

Anyway, as Jerry Pournelle pointed out in his story The Mercenary, “The best a soldier can do is buy time.” The threat of terrorism is going to require psychological, political and cultural solutions. Military solutions won’t ever, in my opinion, solve it.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 4:59:11pm

re: #265 calochortus

Politics is a team sport, and he’s an independent in every way.

I know, it doesn’t surprise me now but at the time, it really did.

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Testy Toad T  May 19, 2016 • 5:00:10pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

It really did amaze me how he had such little support from his colleagues. I mean I get that many lined up behind Clinton early but for someone in Congress as long as he has, it really amazed me how little Congressional support he had.

It did, until it didn’t at all.

In order to feel like it’s worth it to jump through the additional hoops to be a third-party member of Congress, never mind a Senator, you must reaaaaaally not play well with others.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 5:01:05pm

re: #256 Stanley Sea

Link didn’t wok

Fixed. I had to use a link shortener because Charles’ profanity filter didn’t like the n-word in the URL title.

I can’t blame it. Let that serve as fair warning regarding what Cornel West said about Obama.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 5:01:41pm
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Testy Toad T  May 19, 2016 • 5:01:49pm

re: #266 Romantic Heretic

Anyway, as Jerry Pournelle pointed out in his story The Mercenary, “The best a soldier can do is buy time.” The threat of terrorism is going to require psychological, political and cultural solutions. Military solutions won’t ever, in my opinion, solve it.

I mean, I guess you have the option of killing them all, literally all. I suppose this could technically be termed a solution, although it’s not one you’ll ever find me supporting.

Soldiers kill things and stand on ground. These are important and often even worthy tasks, but they are the bluntest imaginable instrument.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 5:02:19pm

re: #268 Testy Toad T

It did, until it didn’t at all.

In order to feel like it’s worth it to jump through the additional hoops to be a third-party member of Congress, never mind a Senator, you must reaaaaaally not play well with others.

Oh in hindsight, it’s not a surprise at all.

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Targetpractice  May 19, 2016 • 5:02:36pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

But how can that be? I’ve been assured repeatedly that half of all Democrats are Bernie supporters, are going to leave the party if Hillary is nominated, and they’ll all go to Stein or write in his name in November. Just how can it possibly be that millions of them are gonna vote for Hillary anyway?!

//////

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 5:04:34pm

re: #269 goddamnedfrank

Fixed. I had to use a link shortener because Charles’ profanity filter didn’t like the n-word in the URL title.

I can’t blame it. Let that serve as fair warning regarding what Cornel West said about Obama.

Cornel has done so much casting that light on white supremacy. Seriously I can’t think of one thing. & I’m not going to go look.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2016 • 5:05:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 5:05:31pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

And then there are people like me, Independents and Republicans in a closed primary state who WILL vote for Hillary in November.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 5:06:07pm

re: #259 Stanley Sea

My neighborhood has not received our ballots. I’ve checked with everyone I know.

WTF.

I’m going to call tomorrow if it isn’t there.

That’s messed up. Mine came last week, mailed back the next day and is listed as “voted ballot processed” on the Ventura County Recorder’s website.

Also just so everyone knows I’ve heard from postal workers that you’re technically supposed to put two stamps on mail in ballots to guarantee delivery. I only put one on mine and it got there just fine and from what I gather they’ll almost always deliver them that way but just to be sure use two stamps.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 5:09:17pm

re: #259 Stanley Sea

My neighborhood has not received our ballots. I’ve checked with everyone I know.

WTF.

I’m going to call tomorrow if it isn’t there.

Assuming you’re in San Diego County you should be able to track the status of your mail in ballot here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2016 • 5:12:00pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2016 • 5:12:02pm

Here’s the latest Hillary Super-PAC attack

What A Con-Man

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 5:13:20pm

re: #214 Bubblehead II

Embedded Image

BTW Charles, the tweet function on the generator isn’t working (at least for me).

If you mean it isn’t tweeting the image, yeah — the standard Twitter button can’t do that, unfortunately.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 5:13:50pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Boom.

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InfidelOfFreedom  May 19, 2016 • 5:14:14pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

And then there are people like me, Independents and Republicans in a closed primary state who WILL vote for Hillary in November.

Just saw an old friend yesterday who typically identifies Independent and leans right, voted for Romney… His words about the election, “Holy shit! This country cannot be stupid enough to vote for Trump right? GIVE ME HILLARY!”

I’m not surprised since he’s a smart guy, but it was good to hear.

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jaunte  May 19, 2016 • 5:14:22pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

So the idiot campaign thinks “temporary Muslim ban” is hugely more voter-friendly than “Muslim ban.”

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 5:15:01pm

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s the latest Hillary Super-PAC attack

[Embedded content]

Video

Good.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 5:15:35pm

re: #284 jaunte

So the idiot campaign thinks “temporary Muslim ban” is hugely more voter-friendly than “Muslim ban.”

I’m for a Trump ban. Well not really since there may be some sane Trumps out there.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 5:16:28pm
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calochortus  May 19, 2016 • 5:16:41pm

Must go start making dinner.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 5:18:25pm

re: #283 InfidelOfFreedom

Just saw an old friend yesterday who typically identifies Independent and leans right, voted for Romney… His words about the election, “Holy shit! This country cannot be stupid enough to vote for Trump right? GIVE ME HILLARY!”

I’m not surprised since he’s a smart guy, but it was good to hear.

Maybe the Berniebots can tar Hillary as “really a Republican” successfully enough to make a lot of middle-of-the-road Republicans comfortable voting for her….

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 5:20:11pm

re: #278 goddamnedfrank

Assuming you’re in San Diego County you should be able to track the status of your mail in ballot here.

I checked yesterday. It shows I have a ballot issued, but doesn’t say when ballot was mailed/expected. I need to go check the mail again today (or text my neighbor to see if he got his)

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 5:20:28pm

re: #289 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Maybe the Berniebots can tar Hillary as “really a Republican” successfully enough to make a lot of middle-of-the-road Republicans comfortable voting for her….

They’re so funny. They love to claim that Bernie has more crossover appeal than her and then flip when Clinton tries to get some of the few sane Republicans left.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 19, 2016 • 5:21:04pm

(wonder how long it’ll take before he steals this….)

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jaunte  May 19, 2016 • 5:21:42pm

LOSERS!

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 5:22:31pm

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s the latest Hillary Super-PAC attack

[Embedded content]

Video

Yee haw!!!

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Jack Burton  May 19, 2016 • 5:22:45pm

Well I just mail voted for the corrupt oligarchical establishment wall street banker new world order Hilluminati stooge. Sorry Bernie, it’s not me, it’s you.

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Nyet  May 19, 2016 • 5:23:16pm

re: #292 Eric The Fruit Bat

I love how Biden still has a chance.

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InfidelOfFreedom  May 19, 2016 • 5:24:18pm

re: #289 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Maybe the Berniebots can tar Hillary as “really a Republican” successfully enough to make a lot of middle-of-the-road Republicans comfortable voting for her….

Indeed! In my friend’s case, I never understood his political affiliation anyway… He’s Hispanic, gay, non-religious, and (recently) union. Kind of a head-scratcher, but I’m happy to welcome him to the light!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 19, 2016 • 5:24:19pm

re: #296 Nyet

Off by 1….

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 5:25:02pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 5:26:16pm

re: #296 Nyet

I love how Biden still has a chance.

I love how a guy who wasn’t even running against Trump is ahead of everybody who did.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2016 • 5:26:32pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I love Hillary’s social media guy.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 5:26:46pm
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jaunte  May 19, 2016 • 5:27:11pm

Not eating Oreos, but still making his clothing in CHYYNA

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 19, 2016 • 5:27:13pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

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nines09  May 19, 2016 • 5:28:36pm
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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 5:28:43pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 5:29:14pm

re: #301 Timothy Watson

I love Hillary’s social media guy.

Yeah, Trump is a successful Twitter troll, I’ll give you that, but when the real campaign starts he isn’t going to know what hit him.

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IngisKahn  May 19, 2016 • 5:30:06pm

I was watching CNN the other night; they said Hillary should hire comedians to write for her to counter Trump. I turned off CNN.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 5:31:20pm

re: #304 Eric The Fruit Bat

[Embedded content]

Yeah, what did Nabisco do wrong? I missed that. (Other than selling chewy crackers—I’m a Sunshine guy.)

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InfidelOfFreedom  May 19, 2016 • 5:31:58pm

re: #309 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, what did Nabisco do wrong? I missed that. (Other than selling chewy crackers—I’m a Sunshine guy.)

Moving a plant to Mexico.

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jaunte  May 19, 2016 • 5:32:05pm

re: #309 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Moving some production to Mexico;
usatoday.com

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2016 • 5:32:19pm

Trump quoting Sanders again saying Hillary is unqualified. Bernie really is reckless as all hell. When he just flat out lied in order to set up that horribly damaging bullshit is the exact moment I decided to volunteer.

Since then I’ve attended phone banks, first calling, canvassing and now doing data support on the back end, that have contacted thousands of voters here in California.

Don’t get mad, get even. If you’re sick of the bullshit do something about it.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  May 19, 2016 • 5:32:30pm

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

WHO DOESN’T LOVE SNOTBURGERS!!!

[Embedded content]

Rowan Atkinson as pizzaman

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stpaulbear  May 19, 2016 • 5:32:31pm

re: #301 Timothy Watson

I love Hillary’s social media guy.

Her ads use comical music when attacking Trump. It turns him into a clown rather than setting a serious, solemn tone. That works really well.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 5:32:47pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

he can’t help himself.

The odds just went up he’s going to use the term cankles.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 5:33:52pm

re: #310 InfidelOfFreedom

Moving a plant to Mexico.

re: #311 jaunte

Moving some production to Mexico;
usatoday.com

Thanx.

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Belafon  May 19, 2016 • 5:37:05pm

re: #310 InfidelOfFreedom

Moving a plant to Mexico.

re: #311 jaunte

Moving some production to Mexico;
usatoday.com

If I understand correctly, they’re moving production of some of the products they sell in Mexico to Mexico.

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Bubblehead II  May 19, 2016 • 5:38:54pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

If you mean it isn’t tweeting the image, yeah — the standard Twitter button can’t do that, unfortunately.

Well, that is ls life. Might want to get rid of the tweet button then.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 5:39:22pm
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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 5:41:56pm
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stpaulbear  May 19, 2016 • 5:45:37pm

re: #319 Stanley Sea

She’s lucky they let her run.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 5:46:43pm

Our Stupid Clinton/Sanders Battle Is Gonna Lose Us the War with Trump

This is the first week that the Rude Pundit thought that there is a chance that Trump could win. No one thought a fucking buffoon like George W. Bush had a chance against the sitting vice-president during a time of economic stability and relative peace. And while, yes, Bush didn’t actually “win,” it shouldn’t have even been close, even with Ralph Nader in the mix. The goal of the Trump campaign is going to be to so dishearten and disgust Democratic voters that they stay home. So we’re gonna get a toxic gas, a poison, poured into us through our various screens, a nonstop scream of hatred and vindictiveness that’ll make us beg for the kinder, gentler sodomizings of Karl Rove. Trump is a man without ethics, morals, conscience, or values. He exists for only himself. Anything else can be smashed like so many friezes on the side of an old building.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 5:56:14pm
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Belafon  May 19, 2016 • 5:56:16pm

re: #322 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Reading your entry with #320 makes me once again think Democrats need to do less worrying and more figuring out what we need to do to win big.

325
gocart mozart  May 19, 2016 • 5:58:26pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

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Billy Batts  May 19, 2016 • 5:59:25pm

re: #208 FormerDirtDart

How’d this work out?

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jaunte  May 19, 2016 • 6:00:42pm

Poor people care, but we know Trump thinks they’re losers.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 6:01:17pm

re: #324 Belafon

Reading your entry with #320 makes me once again think Democrats need to do less worrying and more figuring out what we need to do to win big.

Part of the problem is that it is simply not possible for the Republicans to lose as badly as they did in 1964.

The difference between the two parties is much greater now than it was then, so even a dead rat (or Donald Trump) running as the Republican nominee has a floor of at least 100 electoral votes.

329
Belafon  May 19, 2016 • 6:04:03pm

re: #328 EPR-radar

Part of the problem is that it is simply not possible for the Republicans to lose as badly as they did in 1964.

The difference between the two parties is much greater now than it was then, so even a dead rat (or Donald Trump) running as the Republican nominee has a floor of at least 100 electoral votes.

I’m not really talking about electoral votes. I’m thinking more about Senate and House races to go along with the presidency.

330
Billy Batts  May 19, 2016 • 6:05:12pm

re: #328 EPR-radar

Part of the problem is that it is simply not possible for the Republicans to lose as badly as they did in 1964.

The difference between the two parties is much greater now than it was then, so even a dead rat (or Donald Trump) running as the Republican nominee has a floor of at least 100 electoral votes.

I would say more than that. I think the floor is more like 160.

331
b.d.  May 19, 2016 • 6:05:44pm

Evening Lizards

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 6:06:35pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 6:07:40pm

re: #332 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Yeah he’s not a patronizing asshole.

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Bubblehead II  May 19, 2016 • 6:08:33pm

Night Lizards.

I Leave you with this.

Celtic Woman - Tír na nÓg ft. Oonag

Sleep well.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2016 • 6:18:07pm

Update: neighbor said ballot came today.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2016 • 6:18:57pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2016 • 6:19:34pm

re: #336 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Oh for fuck sake, if they’re turning on Reich.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2016 • 6:20:31pm
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EPR-radar  May 19, 2016 • 6:20:53pm

re: #329 Belafon

I’m not really talking about electoral votes. I’m thinking more about Senate and House races to go along with the presidency.

The Senate is in reach. Breaking the House gerrymanders would be glorious, but is a long shot.

If Trump as the nominee does cause the House gerrymandering to blow up in the GOP’s face, GOP losses there could be epic. However, challenging GOP control of the House requires the kind of fortitude that is in very short supply at DNC headquarters.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2016 • 6:24:03pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 6:28:07pm

re: #339 EPR-radar

The Senate is in reach. Breaking the House gerrymanders would be glorious, but is a long shot.

If Trump as the nominee does cause the House gerrymandering to blow up in the GOP’s face, GOP losses there could be epic. However, challenging GOP control of the House requires the kind of fortitude that is in very short supply at DNC headquarters.

What we really need is a 2006-style Democratic avalanche in a census year—looks like 2040 is the next possibility for that now….

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 19, 2016 • 6:29:31pm

UNTIED STATES OF AMERCIA!
/Hello

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2016 • 6:37:41pm

re: #342 Not a Sparkly Vampire

UNTIED STATES OF AMERCIA!
/Hello

Had to:

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Great White Snark  May 19, 2016 • 6:43:45pm

Just came home to discover someone got in and left a back door open. Not a busted door but unlocked knob and deadbolt. Back door was swinging just a bit as I came in. Yikes. Nothing missing except my calm.

But damn long time since I went gun in hand with real worry about a stranger in my home. Called the police, put the handgun up away, just waiting for them to show up and take a report. Darn apartment living I suppose one of the fired maintenance guys kept some keys dammit.

But how do I get my locks changed tonight?

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Jebediah, RBG  May 19, 2016 • 6:45:32pm

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

Because he’s such a god-damn Adonis, right?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 7:14:25pm

re: #344 Great White Snark

You have my sympathy.

This is why we have a monitored alarm system.

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majii  May 19, 2016 • 7:22:44pm

re: #344 Great White Snark

I’m just glad to hear you’re OK. In some cities, there are 24 hour locksmiths available. Hope you can find one so you can sleep in peace tonight.

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Great White Snark  May 19, 2016 • 7:31:02pm

re: #346 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thanks much. Actually I think I’m very blessed/lucky to have no damage, no loss or confrontation. Nice talk with the responding officers. As far as things going badly, I got off very easy. WHEW

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 7:32:40pm

re: #348 Great White Snark

Thanks much. Actually I think I’m very blessed/lucky to have no damage, no loss or confrontation. Nice talk with the responding officers. As far as things going badly, I got off very easy. WHEW

It’s a horrible, shitty feeling. I know.

For me the monitoring is worth the peace of mind.

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Great White Snark  May 19, 2016 • 7:41:13pm

re: #349 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Totally agree. I’m about to force the issue with management. Whats a few $$?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2016 • 7:42:15pm

re: #350 Great White Snark

Also, and this may be less of an issue if you’re in an apartment (we’re a single family house), the monitoring includes fire. Which means a chance they could get the kitties out if we’re not home.

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Great White Snark  May 19, 2016 • 7:47:46pm

re: #351 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also, and this may be less of an issue if you’re in an apartment (we’re a single family house), the monitoring includes fire. Which means a chance they could get the kitties out if we’re not home.

Excellent point.

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Joe Bacon  May 19, 2016 • 8:14:40pm

re: #9 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Got to update that…

Much more accurate…
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2016 • 8:39:07pm

re: #336 FormerDirtDart

Like I said. DNC convention will get violent.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2016 • 8:46:43pm

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka


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