The Donald Trump “Vince Foster” Conspiracy Moment Is Upon Us at Last

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Anyone who pays attention to Donald Trump’s affinity for far right conspiracy theories knew this moment was coming sooner or later; and now it’s here, as Trump brings up one of the most insane right wing smears on the Clintons: that they orchestrated the murder of former White House aide Vincent Foster.

When asked in an interview last week about the Foster case, Trump dealt with it as he has with many edgy topics — raising doubts about the official version of events even as he says he does not plan to talk about it on the campaign trail.

He called theories of possible foul play “very serious” and the circumstances of Foster’s death “very fishy.”

“He had intimate knowledge of what was going on,” Trump said, speaking of Foster’s relationship with the Clintons at the time. “He knew everything that was going on and then all of a sudden he committed suicide.”

He added, “I don’t bring [Foster] up because I don’t know enough to really discuss it. I will say there are people who continue to bring it up because they think it was absolutely a murder. I don’t do that because I don’t think it’s fair.”

He’s not bringing Foster up, says Trump, as he brings Foster up. He’s pandering to the utterly degraded right wing base, of course, the paranoid people who made him the GOP nominee.

Everything old is new again in 2016.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 5:54:07pm

Well, this will bring any remaining #NeverTrumpers over to the really dark side

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bratwurst  May 23, 2016 • 5:54:27pm
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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 5:54:29pm
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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 5:54:53pm
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mr.fusion  May 23, 2016 • 5:55:07pm

This is just ridiculous.

Everyone knows Vince Foster is living safe and sound in Kenya with Lee Harvey Oswald

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 5:57:28pm
“I don’t bring [Foster] up because I don’t know enough to really discuss it. I will say there are people who continue to bring it up because they think it was absolutely a murder. I don’t do that because I don’t think it’s fair.”
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Pure, 100% Trump character assassination. Those unnamed people keep bringing this up, but he doesn’t because it’s not fair. See what a nice guy he is?

The guy is a master. I hope it gets it back 1000 fold.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 5:59:19pm

re: #5 mr.fusion

This is just ridiculous.

Everyone knows Vince Foster is living safe and sound in Kenya with Lee Harvey Oswald

I understand that every December they head over to South America for a nice Christmas visit with Hitler.

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Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 6:00:01pm

I’m not saying that Trump had anything to do with Jimmy Hoffa’s disappearance, but he did get into real estate development about the time Hoffa vanished. Not casting any blame, just asking the questions people have.

RBS

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lawhawk  May 23, 2016 • 6:00:20pm

I’ve gotta wonder if Trump’s been sipping on Flint water. Lead poisoning could explain much. Delusional/sociopathic behavior. Irrational behaviors. Odd speech patterns with disjointed speech/thoughts.

It fits.

But I’m just asking the questions. /

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 23, 2016 • 6:00:33pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I can’t say I blame her.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 6:01:12pm

Suicide is a leading cause of death in the United States. Period. The fact that Trump brings up a tragic victim of this malady as a cheap political point while not talking about what he plans to do about it as the President shows that he has absolutely no plans to make mental healthcare better for American citizens-and in doing so fails to Make America Great Again in the process. And the fact that our media failed to ask Trump how he would help Americans with improving getting access to mental health services is even more egregious than Trump’s cheap shot.

We’re better than this, goddammit.

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Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 6:01:14pm

re: #9 lawhawk

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I’ve gotta wonder if Trump’s been sipping on Flint water. Lead poisoning could explain much. Delusional/sociopathic behavior. Irrational behaviors. Odd speech patterns with disjointed speech/thoughts.

It fits.

But I’m just asking the questions. /

So could syphilis.

RBS

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FormerDirtDart  May 23, 2016 • 6:02:38pm
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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:03:02pm

re: #11 Eric The Fruit Bat

If we are then this ought to knock his poll numbers down and generate some hostility from the media.

What do you think the odds of that happening are?

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lawhawk  May 23, 2016 • 6:04:10pm

re: #11 Eric The Fruit Bat

Guarantee that his ratings soar among the right wingers.

All while everyone else goes WHA?!?!?

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:04:59pm

re: #13 FormerDirtDart

It’s not climate change that’s causing this. People are peeing too much.

I understand that he’s going to get the ocean to pay for the wall.

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 6:05:16pm

re: #13 FormerDirtDart

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I’m pretty sure bullshit is threatening his golf course, but in this case it’s not climate change.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 6:06:53pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

Slim to none. And Slim walked out the door.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:07:09pm

re: #15 lawhawk

Guarantee that his ratings soar among the right wingers.

All while everyone else goes WHA?!?!?

Trump is saying on a national stage every single lunatic idea ever posted on Free Republic. Of course they love him.

I’m sure Loretta Fuddy’s death is going to be appearing soon in the Trump trashmaster.

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FormerDirtDart  May 23, 2016 • 6:07:17pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:07:49pm

re: #2 bratwurst

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I hate being on the same page as David Frum.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:09:01pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I hate being on the same page as David Frum.

Frum won’t be there long.

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Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 6:09:04pm

And in things even more bizarre than Trump…

Amish teens clocked at 110 mph face alcohol charges

Five Amish teens face alcohol-related charges after their 2001 Dodge Caravan was clocked at 110 miles per hour.

The teens were spotted Friday night while driving southbound on US 31 in Fulton County.

As the Indiana State Police troopers caught up with the van, the teens allegedly started throwing alcohol containers out of the vehicle.

I’m not sure that I’d want to try 110 in my Grand Caravan, but I’m not a Drunk Amish Teen (which I’m calling ‘dibs’ on as a band name)

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:11:48pm

re: #22 Skip Intro

Frum won’t be there long.

True.

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Great White Snark  May 23, 2016 • 6:12:04pm

re: #23 Reality Based Steve

For a split second I was thinking that was one hell of a horse pulling that buggy

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:12:14pm

re: #23 Reality Based Steve

And in things even more bizarre than Trump…

Amish teens clocked at 110 mph face alcohol charges

I’m not sure that I’d want to try 110 in my Grand Caravan, but I’m not a Drunk Amish Teen (which I’m calling ‘dibs’ on as a band name)

I want to see Amish talk but drunk.

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TedStriker  May 23, 2016 • 6:12:38pm

re: #19 Skip Intro

Trump is saying on a national stage every single lunatic idea ever posted on Free Republic. Of course they love him.

I’m sure Loretta Fuddy’s death is going to be appearing soon in the Trump trashmaster.

You just know the conspiracy on Ron Brown is in the queue too.

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Kragar  May 23, 2016 • 6:12:40pm

Sean Hannity’s guests today:

Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones.

I expect they’ll be back again and again and again

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 6:13:03pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Didya Google it?

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Stanley Sea  May 23, 2016 • 6:13:25pm

re: #15 lawhawk

Guarantee that his ratings soar among the right wingers.

All while everyone else goes WHA?!?!?

The 27%

Others will roll their eyes & still vote GOP.

I do believe there are GOP that have as much visceral dislike of him as I do and they will leave the presidential box empty.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:13:32pm

re: #29 Eric The Fruit Bat

Didya Google it?

Nah, is there a video?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2016 • 6:14:12pm

I don’t know if it’s because I wasn’t really aware of the incident at the time, but everytime I see the name “Vince Foster” I think of the guy from the Sham-wow ads.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:14:16pm

re: #28 Kragar

Sean Hannity’s guests today:

Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones.

I expect they’ll be back again and again and again

Of course what Hannity won’t tell his viewers is that Donald Trump himself has been accused of rape by a former wife no less.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:15:37pm

re: #28 Kragar

Sean Hannity’s guests today:

Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones.

I expect they’ll be back again and again and again

You know, it’s almost like it’s Fox and Trump are conducting coordinated smears.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:16:16pm

re: #34 Skip Intro

You know, it’s almost like it’s Fox and Trump are conducting coordinated smears.

Is Fox the media arm of the RNC or is the RNC the political arm of Fox?

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:16:18pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

The 27%

Others will roll their eyes & still vote GOP.

I do believe there are GOP that have as much visceral dislike of him as I do and they will leave the presidential box empty.

I hate betting the country on that.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 6:16:36pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

Of course what Hannity won’t tell his viewers is that Donald Trump himself has been accused of rape by a former wife no less.

And I think that needs to start being surfaced on a more regular basis until ol’ Hair Fürher is forced to address it-even better still would be to find the legal docs….

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 6:16:48pm

If you go look at the wikipedia page for Dances with Wolves, Sirota is listed in there as criticizing the film for being another “white savior” movie. At a superficial level, I can kind of see that, but it’s not like Costner’s character actually saved them in the end; he helped them once, after they rescued him. He’s confusing the fact that most stories need a character the audience can relate to in order to get into the story and being the big hero.

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Kragar  May 23, 2016 • 6:17:56pm
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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 6:18:41pm

re: #39 Kragar

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I would suggest he remain in the Senate then.

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Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 6:19:20pm

re: #40 Belafon

I would suggest he remain in the Senate then.

It’s still early, but that may well be the post of the night.

RBS

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stpaulbear  May 23, 2016 • 6:20:04pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

I want to see Amish talk but drunk.

Many years ago I stayed at a B&B in far southern MN. I was the only one at the B&B so the owner met me for breakfast at a restaurant in town and then invited me to go on his seed sales route as he visited some Amish farmers. The first farm we visited was a bit sketchy. The farmer kept trying to talk the salesman into taking him up to a used farm equipment lot with his truck and trailer, and then he told a couple of dirty jokes cloaked in biblical language. It was kind of a hoot. The three farms we visited were totally different from each other. The second farm was very tidy and righteous, while the third farm was obviously too much work for the worn and depressed looking young owner.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 6:20:08pm
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Kragar  May 23, 2016 • 6:20:22pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 23, 2016 • 6:20:23pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

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He doesn’t have to. I don’t know enough about it, but a lot of people say that Trump has ties to the mob and that they may have been involved, but I don’t know.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:20:32pm

re: #39 Kragar

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Yeah Bernie that’s now how this works. You’ll get to vote in the Senate though.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 6:21:05pm

re: #23 Reality Based Steve

And in things even more bizarre than Trump…

Amish teens clocked at 110 mph face alcohol charges

I’m not sure that I’d want to try 110 in my Grand Caravan, but I’m not a Drunk Amish Teen (which I’m calling ‘dibs’ on as a band name)

I’m thinking how did they even get a 2001 Grand Caravan to go that fast? FCA would like to hear from them.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:21:15pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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Great pick Bernie.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 6:22:09pm

re: #28 Kragar

Sean Hannity’s guests today:

Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones.

I expect they’ll be back again and again and again

Pretty sure they are getting some sweet Trump bucks.

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TedStriker  May 23, 2016 • 6:22:12pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

I’m thinking how did they even get a 2001 Grand Caravan to go that fast? FCA would like to hear from them.

Downhill.

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 6:22:25pm

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

I’m thinking how did they even get a 2001 Grand Caravan to go that fast? FCA would like to hear from them.

Just about any car can go that fast. How long it takes to get there, on the other hand, is another story.

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 6:23:30pm

re: #51 thedopefishlives

Just about any car can go that fast. How long it takes to get there, on the other hand, is another story.

Given a straight enough road. I think our 2004 Grand Caravan was a six-cylinder. It didn’t take it any time at all to get to 80.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:23:50pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Their donor driven opponents? Plural?

So West will be a Trump man once Bern loses. Way to work with the party, Bern.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 6:24:17pm
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b_sharp  May 23, 2016 • 6:25:41pm

I finally watched Deadpool yesterday.

Everybody who watched the show should now know how to pronounce my provinces name and get the joke - “the place that rhymes with fun”.

Sorry for going off topic so fast, but y’all need a break.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:25:55pm

re: #42 stpaulbear

Many years ago I stayed at a B&B in far southern MN. I was the only one at the B&B so the owner met me for breakfast at a restaurant in town and then invited me to go on his seed sales route as he visited some Amish farmers. The first farm we visited was a bit sketchy. The farmer kept trying to talk the salesman into taking him up to a used farm equipment lot with his truck and trailer, and then he told a couple of dirty jokes cloaked in biblical language. It was kind of a hoot. The three farms we visited were totally different from each other. The second farm was very tidy and righteous, while the third farm was obviously too much work for the worn and depressed looking young owner.

I’ve never met anyone form Amish coutnry anyhow. I have read about a grace period the Amish teens kid when they’re able to have some fun and then decide if they want to stay in the culture or go out. I always wondered what they thought of Weird Al’s song. That was the first time I really heard of the Amish.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 6:26:46pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Someone get me an ice pack.
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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 6:27:15pm
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Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 6:27:39pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

Their donor driven opponents? Plural?

So West will be a Trump man once Bern loses. Way to work with the party, Bern.

I’ve said it before, I can not imagine the thought process that allows one to treat Sanders and Trump as fungible items. Yes, both are coming in as outsiders (not really true in Sanders case), both have a position of sticking it too their respective parties, both have wildly supportive fans that have crossed into cult of personality state.

But when you look at things like positions, past records, campaign policy statements they are as different as cheese and chalk. It doesn’t indicate political sophistication to say you could support both, it’s showing a very sophomoric level of understanding of reality.

RBS

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lawhawk  May 23, 2016 • 6:28:35pm

re: #44 Kragar

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 6:28:49pm

Why? What kind of special equipment do they need?

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Kragar  May 23, 2016 • 6:29:07pm
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KGxvi  May 23, 2016 • 6:30:32pm

re: #52 Belafon

Given a straight enough road. I think our 2004 Grand Caravan was a six-cylinder. It didn’t take it any time at all to get to 80.

In high school I drove an ‘89 Toyota pick up, V-6 I believe. I somehow managed to get it going 110 on the 55 freeway with the window down. That’s probably the second stupidest thing I’ve done behind the wheel.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 23, 2016 • 6:31:11pm

re: #62 Kragar

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Canada might want to pay for a wall to keep the Trumpetariat out.

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 6:31:39pm

re: #63 KGxvi

In high school I drove an ‘89 Toyota pick up, V-6 I believe. I somehow managed to get it going 110 on the 55 freeway with the window down. That’s probably the second stupidest thing I’ve done behind the wheel.

I’ve had my wife’s ‘97 Lincoln Town Car up to 110 before. It may be a big beast of a car, but that V-8 has plenty of power in reserve; there’s a reason why that basic frame and powertrain was used for the standard police cruiser for practically a whole generation.

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 6:31:45pm

re: #62 Kragar

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They would have to be able to positively identify an actual transgender person first to charge them. So far, the record seems pretty much zero.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:32:04pm

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

Why? What kind of special equipment do they need?

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Of course, no one will call him on this. No one will call him out on A) lying about the price and B) contradicting himself yet again. They should get a special bathroom just for Donald and lock him in it though.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:32:16pm

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

Why? What kind of special equipment do they need?

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He’s talking about all the lawsuits the states are going to lose.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 6:32:17pm

I don’t think I have ever gone over 90 in any vehicle I have owned, including the 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix. Now my sons tell me they used to drive that vehicle at night while I was asleep and they got it past 120.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2016 • 6:32:38pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

Canada might want to pay for a wall to keep the Trumpetariat out.

South Park did it:

Mr Garrison vs Canada

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:32:39pm

re: #66 Belafon

They would have to be able to positively identify an actual transgender person first to charge them. So far, the record seems pretty much zero.

They seriously think every trans-gendered person is a man in a dress.

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Kragar  May 23, 2016 • 6:32:52pm
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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 6:33:44pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t think I have ever gone over 90 in any vehicle I have owned, including the 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix. Now my sons tell me they used to drive that vehicle at night while I was asleep and they got it past 120.

My wife wound up my little econobox Chevy Malibu (inline-4, 6-speed automatic) to over 100 once, just to see if it could. It took her a while, but she found an open flat stretch of road and just held the pedal to the floor.

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Jenner7  May 23, 2016 • 6:34:21pm
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Snarknado!  May 23, 2016 • 6:34:21pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

I’ve never met anyone form Amish coutnry anyhow. I have read about a grace period the Amish teens kid when they’re able to have some fun and then decide if they want to stay in the culture or go out. I always wondered what they thought of Weird Al’s song. That was the first time I really heard of the Amish.

Called Rumspringa. (Also the name of a craft beer.)

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 6:34:22pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

They seriously think every trans-gendered person is a man in a dress.

That, and their criteria for identification seems to be:
1) short hair
2) …
3) profit.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 6:34:38pm

I’m going local with #DonTrumpConspiracy.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 6:34:42pm

Joe Hill’s new book “The Fireman” is freaking fantastic, by the way.

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FormerDirtDart  May 23, 2016 • 6:34:57pm

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

Why? What kind of special equipment do they need?

Trump: Transgender bathrooms “unbelievably expensive”

I’m no scientist, but I’m pretty sure every bathroom in America is equipped to accommodate transgendered users…

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:36:21pm

I like how this suddenly became a problem as if there weren’t transgendered people before.

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 6:37:15pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

I like how this suddenly became a problem as if there weren’t transgendered people before.

It’s how the right wing works. Find the biggest bogeyman they can invent, whip their constituents into a frenzy, reap the whirlwind, and then when the nontroversy starts to fade, move on to the next one. They go in cycles, too; eventually, we’ll come back to this debate.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2016 • 6:37:29pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

I’m no scientist, but I pretty sure every bathroom in America is equipped to accommodate transgendered users…

No, they have to put in those full body scanners like they have at airports now. And someone to check the scans, and then a supervisor in case there’s an appeal. Plus, they’re going to need toilets like on the space shuttle because nobody really knows how it works, if you know what I mean.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 6:37:51pm

My mom let me drive her Audi TT to Steamboat Springs some years ago. She’s in the passenger seat, mind you. There’s a stretch of highway that’s straight for about four or five miles, something you don’t see often in the mountains of Colorado. “Mom, can I see how fast she can go?” Mom solemnly nods. I got it up to a buck fifty. Mom didn’t seem nervous. That’s the fastest speed I’ve experienced in a motor vehicle.

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Barefoot Grin  May 23, 2016 • 6:40:08pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

My wife wound up my little econobox Chevy Malibu (inline-4, 6-speed automatic) to over 100 once, just to see if it could. It took her a while, but she found an open flat stretch of road and just held the pedal to the floor.

I inherited the Pontiac Catalina that my brother inherited from my grandmother when she died (and after he left to study theater in England). I got it to 100 on Illinois two-lane back roads late at night with no problem, but I was too scared to do much more. I also got my first car, a ‘71 Plymouth Valiant, in that speed neighborhood in the same neighborhood when I had a bit too much liquid courage. I’m lucky I’m alive. I shouldn’t have been driving, and the car’s brakes were “push three times to engage..somewhat.” The stars are beautiful out there on the prairie, though, if you live to see them.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:40:42pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

I like how this suddenly became a problem as if there weren’t transgendered people before.

Trump says they have to be separate bathrooms, presumably with delousers and cootie bug cleaners.

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b_sharp  May 23, 2016 • 6:41:03pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

My mom let me drive her Audi TT to Steamboat Springs some years ago. She’s in the passenger seat, mind you. There’s a stretch of highway that’s straight for about four or five miles, something you don’t see often in the mountains of Colorado. “Mom, can I see how fast she can go?” Mom solemnly nods. I got it up to a buck fifty. Mom didn’t seem nervous. That’s the fastest speed I’ve experienced in a motor vehicle.

140 in a ‘70 Camaro SS.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 6:42:06pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

Hell, the TT was probably snickering after that: ‘is that it?’…..

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 6:42:33pm

re: #39 Kragar

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And he’ll have one, along with the 99 other Senators.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 6:44:19pm

re: #87 Eric The Fruit Bat

Hell, the TT was probably snickering after that: ‘is that it?’…..

There was probably another few thousand RPMs on the tachometer before it red-lined, yes.

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Great White Snark  May 23, 2016 • 6:44:32pm

Sipping now…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 6:45:19pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

I’m no scientist, but I pretty sure every bathroom in America is equipped to accommodate transgendered users…

Well, I am, and they are.

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stpaulbear  May 23, 2016 • 6:46:12pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

My wife wound up my little econobox Chevy Malibu (inline-4, 6-speed automatic) to over 100 once, just to see if it could. It took her a while, but she found an open flat stretch of road and just held the pedal to the floor.

I had my fairly new 1976 Toyota Corolla wagon up to 90 mph on a two-lane highway out in the woods, which was pretty stupid because I was totally unfamiliar with the highway.

A couple years ago when I bought my Kymco 300cc scooter, I took it out on I-35e in the early evening and brought it up to 80mph until I realized it had stopped being fun at about 65mph.

My second best thing about the scooter is that it can go 80mph if needed. The best thing about it is that it cannot go 120mph.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:46:26pm

re: #81 thedopefishlives

It’s how the right wing works. Find the biggest bogeyman they can invent, whip their constituents into a frenzy, reap the whirlwind, and then when the nontroversy starts to fade, move on to the next one. They go in cycles, too; eventually, we’ll come back to this debate.

You know better than I do as a self described former wingnut. It’s actually pretty sad that they need these scares to get out the vote.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2016 • 6:47:16pm

re: #90 Great White Snark

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Sipping now…

Hah nice. Slainte.

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 6:47:48pm

re: #92 stpaulbear

I had my fairly new 1976 Toyota Corolla wagon up to 90 mph on a two-lane highway out in the woods, which was pretty stupid because I was totally unfamiliar with the highway.

A couple years ago when I bought my Kymco 300cc scooter, I took it out on I-35e in the early evening and brought it up to 80mph until I realized it had stopped being fun at about 65mph.

My second favorite thing about the scooter is that it can go 80mph if needed. The best thing about it is that it cannot go 120mph.

I had an ‘84 Volkswagen Rabbit with a tiny little naturally aspirated diesel engine. At 50 mpg, it was amazing to drive as a commuter car, but one time I drove it from here to the Chicago suburbs and back. I had my foot to the floor just to get it to 70, which was the speed limit on some of the roads I was driving.

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 6:49:21pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

You know better than I do as a self described former wingnut. It’s actually pretty sad that they need these scares to get out the vote.

Well, as I’ve mentioned before, it’s not just about getting out the vote. If the people are continuously frightened, they are easily controlled. There’s a reason hyper-patriotism, gun-fucking, and military fetishization are common themes among the wingnuts. They lean on those concepts to make themselves feel safe in a world that is truly terrifying to them.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  May 23, 2016 • 6:50:03pm

re: #23 Reality Based Steve

Rumspringa?

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 6:52:29pm

So I see Bernie has just issued his “nice little convention you’ve got here. Be a real shame if anything happened to it” threat.

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Stanley Sea  May 23, 2016 • 6:53:45pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Joe Hill’s new book “The Fireman” is freaking fantastic, by the way.

Thanks, I’m ready for a horror.

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Billy Batts  May 23, 2016 • 6:54:48pm

There was a rumor a while back that Jim Jones was really Donald Trump and he murdered all those people with the Kool Aid and stuff. I know it was such a long time ago and everything and I really, really didn’t want to bring it up, but still, ya know?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2016 • 6:55:43pm

Unconfirmed reports suggest Jimmy Hoffa made crack about Trumps hands not long before he disappeared…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2016 • 6:56:17pm

re: #98 Skip Intro

So I see Bernie has just issued his “nice little convention you’ve got here. Be a real shame if anything happened to it” threat.

If he got his way, the convention would look like those Asian legislature brawls.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 6:56:31pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 6:57:50pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

There was probably another few thousand RPMs on the tachometer before it red-lined, yes.

If you’d gone much faster, you’d probably have run into the electronic governor. That saves Audi on tires, since they can put in lower rated tires than the ungoverned car could reach.

My Challenger R/T has - so I’ve been told - a governor set at 145, because it’s sold with V-rated tires. I just put on a new set of Y-rated tires, so I could theoretically ask the dealer to take off the governor, but when am I gonna need 160 mph?

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 6:59:36pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

I would go that way only to avoid the mines of Moria.

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 7:00:01pm

re: #105 Belafon

I would go that way only to avoid the mines of Moria.

Fuck that, I’d take the mines.

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Barefoot Grin  May 23, 2016 • 7:01:04pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

If you’d gone much faster, you’d probably have run into the electronic governor. That saves Audi on tires, since they can put in lower rated tires than the ungoverned car could reach.

My Challenger R/T has - so I’ve been told - a governor set at 145, because it’s sold with V-rated tires. I just put on a new set of Y-rated tires, so I could theoretically ask the dealer to take off the governor, but when am I gonna need 160 mph?

When the metamucil block doesn’t work and you need to get to the next rest area before you’re “ridin’ dirty.”

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 7:02:09pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2016 • 7:02:36pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

If you’d gone much faster, you’d probably have run into the electronic governor. That saves Audi on tires, since they can put in lower rated tires than the ungoverned car could reach.

My Challenger R/T has - so I’ve been told - a governor set at 145, because it’s sold with V-rated tires. I just put on a new set of Y-rated tires, so I could theoretically ask the dealer to take off the governor, but when am I gonna need 160 mph?

After Trump gets elected?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 7:02:51pm

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

When the metamucil block doesn’t work and you need to get to the next rest area before you’re “ridin’ dirty.”

That’s what the bushes are for - “I’m shakin’ the bush, Boss! I’m shakin’ the bush!”

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CleverToad  May 23, 2016 • 7:04:15pm

re: #23 Reality Based Steve

And in things even more bizarre than Trump…

Amish teens clocked at 110 mph face alcohol charges

I’m not sure that I’d want to try 110 in my Grand Caravan, but I’m not a Drunk Amish Teen (which I’m calling ‘dibs’ on as a band name)

I used to have a Grand Caravan myself, and I’m in awe — and stern disapproval, of course — at the thought of anyone making 110, even with the bigger engine option.

That kid may have a career in racing when he gets his license back…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 7:05:23pm

re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg

After Trump gets elected?

Why do you think I got All Season tires?
///

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 7:05:47pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 7:08:57pm

Note who the cc: in the email is to……

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 7:09:31pm

re: #114 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Note who the cc: in the email is to……

Who is that? I don’t recognize the name.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 7:10:51pm

This made me LOL

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b_sharp  May 23, 2016 • 7:11:58pm

re: #112 Blind Frog Belly White

Why do you think I got All Season tires?
///

Up here you need All Weather tires.

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Barefoot Grin  May 23, 2016 • 7:12:12pm

re: #116 The Vicious Babushka

This made me LOL

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Needs son holding up trophy trunk.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 7:13:15pm
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stpaulbear  May 23, 2016 • 7:13:48pm

re: #116 The Vicious Babushka

This made me LOL

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It should show him with a cut-off elephant’s tail in his other hand. Fuck Trump’s sons.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 7:15:27pm

re: #118 Barefoot Grin

Needs son holding up trophy trunk.

He’s got the tail, easier to plant the flag that way.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 7:16:42pm

re: #115 thedopefishlives

Ken Ivory: A Utah government official and a rather colorful character.

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Barefoot Grin  May 23, 2016 • 7:17:40pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

He’s got the tail, easier to plant the flag that way.

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Funny how the mind works. I have seen that image dozens of times and it always registered as the trunk. I guess it doesn’t matter to a dead elephant, but I wanted it to be the cruelest image I could think of. Anyway, douchenozzle.

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2016 • 7:17:46pm

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

He’s got the tail, easier to plant the flag that way.

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True son. His hand barely goes around the skinny end of that tail.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 23, 2016 • 7:17:48pm

So I just saw this for the first time. And it’s amazing.

What’s in your hot dog: Mooscles

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whitebeach  May 23, 2016 • 7:18:09pm

Did 110 in a ‘56 Ford Vic once on a crappy road at night. Drinking some. As the old song said, brakes were good and the tires were fair. Three other kids in the car with me. When I think back on some of the shit I did as a teen, I don’t know how anybody gets through parenting teenagers except by completely forgetting the shit they themselves did as teens.

Scaredest I ever was in a car was driving a friend’s Vette on another crappy two-lane road, doing a casual 90 or so. Hit a sudden huge thunderstorm, completely blinded by it. Eased the brakes and tried to keep the wheel steady in what I thought was straight-ahead. When I finally figured I was stopped, I opened the door to look for the yellow line so I could pull off on the shoulder. One glance and I realized I was still doing about 60.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 7:19:59pm

re: #123 Barefoot Grin

Funny how the mind works. I have seen that image dozens of times and it always registered as the trunk. I guess it doesn’t matter to a dead elephant, but I wanted it to be the cruelest image I could think of. Anyway, douchenozzle.

The way he’s holding that knife, he could be an ISIS killer holding a human head.

Has that been Photoshopped already?

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2016 • 7:21:25pm

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

The way he’s holding that knife, he could be an ISIS killer holding a human head.

Has that been Photoshopped already?

Clean as his knife is, it’s probably used to lift the rind from brie.

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 7:21:39pm

re: #126 whitebeach

Worst experience I ever had in a car was when I was helping a family friend move while I was on spring break in college. I was driving his little truck, pulling a trailer; this truck had recently hit a deer, and the hood was held down with bungee cords. It was a windy day, and as I came around a corner on a 2-lane highway about half a mile from my destination, I saw the hood begin to wobble. Then it flew up and smacked against the windshield. I immediately turned to my left and guided the truck around the rest of the corner by watching the yellow line out my driver’s side window until I was clear of the guardrail to my right, at which point I pulled over. My dad, who was following, told me he was sure I was going to wreck it; I was like, gee, dad, thanks for the vote of confidence - you did teach me to drive, after all.

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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 7:25:21pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

I’ve never met anyone form Amish coutnry anyhow. I have read about a grace period the Amish teens kid when they’re able to have some fun and then decide if they want to stay in the culture or go out. I always wondered what they thought of Weird Al’s song. That was the first time I really heard of the Amish.

We had a farrier (horse-shoer) back in the 80s who was Amish. He drove a very nice truck, wore the conservative clothes, charged an arm and a leg, but was very good. His wife came with him one time, and it was very hot. I asked her into the kitchen for some iced tea and the fan, and she came in. Floor length gown, heavy shoes, bonnet. We were chatting, and she wanted to know how I liked my microwave, because she sure couldn’t live without hers. When I got the bill, I knew how they could afford it!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 7:26:33pm

SCIENCE!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 7:26:44pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

If you’d gone much faster, you’d probably have run into the electronic governor. That saves Audi on tires, since they can put in lower rated tires than the ungoverned car could reach.

My Challenger R/T has - so I’ve been told - a governor set at 145, because it’s sold with V-rated tires. I just put on a new set of Y-rated tires, so I could theoretically ask the dealer to take off the governor, but when am I gonna need 160 mph?

Some states have governors set at 1850. Replacing their tires probably wouldn’t change much.

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 7:27:01pm

re: #132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some states have governors set at 1850. Replacing their tires probably wouldn’t change much.

*WHACK!*

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 7:28:40pm

re: #130 retired cynic

We had a farrier (horse-shoer) back in the 80s who was Amish. He drove a very nice truck, wore the conservative clothes, charged an arm and a leg, but was very good. His wife came with him one time, and it was very hot. I asked her into the kitchen for some iced tea and the fan, and she came in. Floor length gown, heavy shoes, bonnet. We were chatting, and she wanted to know how I liked my microwave, because she sure couldn’t live without hers. When I got the bill, I knew how they could afford it!

They are probably Mennonite, who share Amish beliefs but don’t shun modern technology.

I once saw an Amish family standing on the corner in Crown Heights, Brooklyn (a Hasidic neighborhood). I suppose they were tourists.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 7:29:18pm

Bernie Sanders is a shit goblin.

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 7:29:49pm

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

They are probably Mennonite, who share Amish beliefs but don’t shun modern technology.

I once saw an Amish family standing on the corner in Crown Heights, Brooklyn (a Hasidic neighborhood). I suppose they were tourists.

I have relatives who are members of a Mennonite community. Mennonites and Amish are big back in fish country.

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FormerDirtDart  May 23, 2016 • 7:29:55pm

“…In a 20-page opinion, Barrett said the law was enacted to make it difficult for women to obtain an abortion, and said that Planned Parenthood had shown it could successfully win its legal action.

He wrote that Planned Parenthood would be “forced to end health care and education programs and terminate employees, depriving thousands of Ohioans of high-quality, affordable health care services and education programs.” …”

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No Depression  May 23, 2016 • 7:30:13pm

re: #39 Kragar

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Apparently this is just a reporter saying he *thinks* Sanders is going to ask for influence over Clinton’s choices for her Cabinet. Until I see the Sanders campaign make this demand itself, I’m going to treat this as speculation. Bernie’s crazy, but I have to think he isn’t this crazy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 7:30:16pm

My brother once took Mom’s 66 Ford station wagon up to 100, with me on board. He was probably about 23 or so, and I was about 11. I was impressed.

10 years later, with the same car nearly 12 years old, I was following a friend who was known for driving fast. I was keeping up with no problem, then I looked at the speedo - over 90 on a two-lane rural road. I backed off real quick.

Around here, on 280 I generally cruise around 80 mph, which makes me generally NOT the fastest person on the road. It’s not the Challenger. I drove the Outback it replaced just as fast. But I had to push it MUCH harder to do it! And I get up to speed a LOT quicker!

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2016 • 7:30:25pm

re: #130 retired cynic

We had a farrier (horse-shoer) back in the 80s who was Amish. He drove a very nice truck, wore the conservative clothes, charged an arm and a leg, but was very good. His wife came with him one time, and it was very hot. I asked her into the kitchen for some iced tea and the fan, and she came in. Floor length gown, heavy shoes, bonnet. We were chatting, and she wanted to know how I liked my microwave, because she sure couldn’t live without hers. When I got the bill, I knew how they could afford it!

The kids from our Catholic school hired out to help a local farmer bring in his potatoes. the other half of the crew was women I now recognize as Amish. We got to chat a lot, but couldn’t get a fix on their clothing. Then one of our kids broke the code: “Protestant nuns”.

Asked why they didn’t use electricity, one of them answered: “Too swift and too sharp.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 7:31:55pm

re: #132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some states have governors set at 1850. Replacing their tires probably wouldn’t change much.

That’s the ones you have to heat in a furnace till they’re hot, then hammer them into place and let them shrink to fit.

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 7:33:24pm

re: #139 Blind Frog Belly White

My brother once took Mom’s 66 Ford station wagon up to 100, with me on board. He was probably about 23 or so, and I was about 11. I was impressed.

10 years later, with the same car nearly 12 years old, I was following a friend who was known for driving fast I was keeping up with no problem, then I looked at the speedo - over 90 on a two-lane rural road. I backed off real quick.

Around here, on 280 I generally cruise around 80 mph, which makes me generally NOT the fastest person on the road. It’s not the Challenger. I drove the Outback it replaced just as fast. But I had to push it MUCH harder to do it! And I get up to speed a LOT quicker!

The speed limit on I-30 in Hunt County, TX is 75, which means most of us drive 80, and some do at least 10 more than that.

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Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 7:33:38pm

re: #136 thedopefishlives

I have relatives who are members of a Mennonite community. Mennonites and Amish are big back in fish country.

Just to the north of where I live (across the border in Kentucky) there is a Mennonite (I believe) community. Horse and buggys, but also farm tractors. They hitch a trailer with a small shed building on it to go to Walmart and such.

There are also 2 of them that I have seen at the quarry scuba diving. They tend to come later in the afternoon, get a couple of dives in, and then head off.

RBS

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 7:33:39pm

Just returned from a special meeting of my village board, called to replace a board member who moved away and resigned.

A number of candidates were presented, but under state law the chairwoman may only present one candidate.

That candidate was the fellow who lost the last election to me by four votes (he is about as far-right as I am far-left, and he owns the town gun shop).

There was some concern as he is an irascible cuss (part of the reason he lost the election in a conservative town to a democratic socialist and atheist). The village attorney pointed out to the person most concerned that his attention would be divided now (unlike when he last served on the board). I offered her the suggestion I could plunk my Sanders yard sign in his yard, which got a bunch of chuckles. (That would be illegal, plus he owns a whole lot of guns in that gun shop so I don’t think I want to be caught running around in his yard in the middle of the night.)

Our next regular meeting will fill the other vacant seat, and select a new chair (mayor) and chair pro-tem (vice-mayor). The Lions Club will also put forth a proposal for installing a memorial flag staff and marker in front of the village hall for a long-serving member who was also in the past the village board chairwoman. (Busy meeting coming up.)

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thedopefishlives  May 23, 2016 • 7:34:35pm

re: #143 Reality Based Steve

Just to the north of where I live (across the border in Kentucky) there is a Mennonite (I believe) community. Horse and buggys, but also farm tractors. They hitch a trailer with a small shed building on it to go to Walmart and such.

There are also 2 of them that I have seen at the quarry scuba diving. They tend to come later in the afternoon, get a couple of dives in, and then head off.

RBS

I’ve visited a few Amish communities. Also, at tractor auctions, there are a fairly large number of Mennonites there to admire the machinery. Dunno if any of them ever buy anything, but you can see them everywhere.

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Barefoot Grin  May 23, 2016 • 7:34:52pm

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

SCIENCE!

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See, I would have assumed 5,000 year-old colonic kit.

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 7:35:48pm

re: #146 Barefoot Grin

See, I would have assumed 5,000 year-old colonic kit.

You know, steampunk medicine would be quite interesting.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 7:36:14pm

re: #145 thedopefishlives

I’ve visited a few Amish communities. Also, at tractor auctions, there are a fairly large number of Mennonites there to admire the machinery. Dunno if any of them ever buy anything, but you can see them everywhere.

Some communities buy a machine as community property, and share the beast among the farms.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 7:36:48pm

re: #147 Belafon

You know, steampunk medicine would be quite interesting.

Gwyneth Paltrow has some insights about that, I hear.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 7:38:07pm

I’ll just drop this here, #1 REASON WHY DONALD TRUMP SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED WITHIN 1000 MILES OF THE WHITE HOUSE

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2016 • 7:39:17pm

re: #148 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some communities buy a machine as community property, and share the beast among the farms.

There is a similar anabaptist group mostly in Canada, the Hutterites. They have stricter community ownership/cooperative doctrines than most Amish, but without any of the technology restrictions. That means they are unstoppable as hardcore farmers.

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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 7:40:19pm

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

They are probably Mennonite, who share Amish beliefs but don’t shun modern technology.

I once saw an Amish family standing on the corner in Crown Heights, Brooklyn (a Hasidic neighborhood). I suppose they were tourists.

I sure don’t know, but they lived in a well known Amish community in central Illinois.

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calochortus  May 23, 2016 • 7:40:53pm

re: #143 Reality Based Steve

Just to the north of where I live (across the border in Kentucky) there is a Mennonite (I believe) community. Horse and buggys, but also farm tractors. They hitch a trailer with a small shed building on it to go to Walmart and such.

There are also 2 of them that I have seen at the quarry scuba diving. They tend to come later in the afternoon, get a couple of dives in, and then head off.

RBS

We lived in Lancaster County PA for several years-there are a lot of flavors of Mennonites, ranging from Old Order who drive buggies and are barely distinguishable from the Amish, to very liberal churches where the women don’t even wear “coverings” (the gauze caps of varying designs.) I believe Amish outside of Lancaster County vary in how conservative they are-I’ve heard of some quietly using electricity, which would never pass muster in Lancaster.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 7:42:43pm

Anabaptists (which include Amish) may seem peaceful and quaint, but back in the 1500’s they scared the everloving fuck out of Henry VIII.

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Barefoot Grin  May 23, 2016 • 7:43:16pm

re: #147 Belafon

You know, steampunk medicine would be quite interesting.

Right, and where are you going to get the beer to do that colonic?

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 7:43:54pm

re: #154 calochortus

Both where I grew up (central Michigan) and where I live now (the Nebraska Panhandle) have a number of Mennonites.

Across the line from us in Wyoming is Frontier School of the Bible (which teaches people how to interpret the Bible and not much else). It is in La Grange, Wyoming, and I think its purpose is for really conservative religious parents to put their grown children in a place they cannot escape.

(Maybe that is why everyone shuts their doors and looks askance at me when I am in La Grange - they know who the atheist liberal is that owns the Smart car.)

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2016 • 7:44:30pm

Anabaptists were persecuted not only for their religious beliefs, but also for their societal beliefs which Conservatives today would brand “Communist”

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 7:45:29pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 23, 2016 • 7:45:49pm

re: #153 retired cynic

I sure don’t know, but they lived in a well known Amish community in central Illinois.

Yes, south of my home in Champaign. Lots of Mennonites at the farmers’ market in Bloomington, IN when I lived there, and not a few Amish buggies when I took the Parke County route back to see my folks in Champaign.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 7:47:00pm

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

They are probably Mennonite, who share Amish beliefs but don’t shun modern technology.

I once saw an Amish family standing on the corner in Crown Heights, Brooklyn (a Hasidic neighborhood). I suppose they were tourists.

There’s kind of an unbroken continuum from Amish through Old Order Mennonites and “Black Bumper” Mennonites to folks indistinguishable, except in certain doctrinal matters, from you average corner Protestant church.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2016 • 7:47:43pm

NICE!

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2016 • 7:48:07pm

re: #160 Barefoot Grin

Yes, south of my home in Champaign. Lots of Mennonites at the farmers’ market in Bloomington, IN when I lived there, and not a few Amish buggies when I took the Parke County route back to see my folks in Champaign.

With the relatively small number of Amish, and the large number of Amish sightings, there is only one practical conclusion: they move about at night in very high-speed conveyances.

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Tigger2  May 23, 2016 • 7:48:32pm
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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 7:48:41pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

There was a Mennonite family near my childhood home that used to hide their television set in a closet when visitors came round their house.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 23, 2016 • 7:49:39pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

My mom let me drive her Audi TT to Steamboat Springs some years ago. She’s in the passenger seat, mind you. There’s a stretch of highway that’s straight for about four or five miles, something you don’t see often in the mountains of Colorado. “Mom, can I see how fast she can go?” Mom solemnly nods. I got it up to a buck fifty. Mom didn’t seem nervous. That’s the fastest speed I’ve experienced in a motor vehicle.

In the summertime when the weather is hot
You can stretch right up and touch the sky
When the weather’s fine
You got women, you got women on your mind
Have a drink, have a drive
Go out and see what you can find

If her daddy’s rich take her out for a meal
If her daddy’s poor just do what you feel
Speed along the lane
Do a ton or a ton an’ twenty-five
When the sun goes down
You can make it, make it good in a lay-by

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 7:50:31pm

Norm Ornstein, of the right-leaning AEI: Is this the worst Congress Ever?

In 2011, I wrote a piece for Foreign Policy magazine about the 112th Congress; the editors helpfully titled it “Worst. Congress. Ever.” It was a bit of hyperbole, but it may be no exaggeration to call the current, 114th Congress the worst ever—at least edging out the infamous 112th. The truly cringeworthy failures started when both the House and Senate refused to even acknowledge the president’s budget, an unprecedented step, and the House and Senate Budget Committees followed by refusing to hold the usual annual hearing when the president’s top economic advisor comes to the Hill to discuss the budget and the economy. It was a sign of disrespect that was simply shocking. (Although the shock value was exceeded days later after Justice Antonin Scalia’s death.)

There are very legitimate arguments about the appropriate role and scope of the federal government. But few except nihilists and the most extreme libertarians would argue that protecting public safety in the face of catastrophe or epidemic should be off the government’s books or sharply constrained in scope. And right now, there are three such examples: the horrible Flint water debacle, a man-made (mostly state government-made) disaster; the Zika crisis, a classic disease epidemic; and the opioid crisis. All are crying out for a sharp and focused response from the federal government. In Flint, the excruciatingly slow response at all levels has left city residents still without reliably safe water supplies, while children and others face health horrors like enduring brain damage. With Zika, as Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health testified, the potential for a major expansion of the virus, leading to health problems and many children born with microcephaly, along with incidents of Guillaume-Barre disease and other terrible maladies, is palpable. The opiod crisis has resulted in widespread debilitating addiction and many deaths from heroin and painkillers. Congress’s response last month? Go on recess without dealing with them.

On Zika, where the flimsy excuse is that the administration has failed to produce a detailed plan to deal with the virus (the reality is that both NIH and CDC have plans ready to roll,) the House Appropriations Committee has come up with a pathetic $600 million or so, far short of the $1.9 billion Fauci and other experts say is necessary. The same small-minded failure to find enough dollars plagues the response to the opioid crisis. In Flint, there has been next to nothing done. I expect that before the year is out, Congress will slap together something on Zika and opioids, and declare victory. Most likely, it will be too little, too late, and taxpayers will foot larger bills in subsequent years, while too many people will suffer, and too many will die.

The Freedom Caucus is wrongly named-they really are the Suicide Caucus. And each and every one of them should be voted out and be politically neutralized.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 7:52:05pm

re: #166 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That song was all over the radio when I was in junior high, or maybe high school. Very different from most of the music on the airwaves then.

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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 7:52:28pm

re: #160 Barefoot Grin

Yes, south of my home in Champaign. Lots of Mennonites at the farmers’ market in Bloomington, IN when I lived there, and not a few Amish buggies when I took the Parke County route back to see my folks in Champaign.

Yep, Arthur.

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calochortus  May 23, 2016 • 7:52:35pm

re: #157 Anymouse

I went to college in the CA Central Valley and we used to see Mennonites shopping in town occasionally (the men weren’t particularly distinctive, but the women’s dresses were all made to the same pattern out of tiny-floral-print fabric.) They are everywhere.
(Cue dramatic music…)

As for the Bible College, I guess sending your kids there pretty much guarantees they won’t meet and marry anyone who isn’t a student there.

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Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 7:52:43pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

With the relatively small number of Amish, and the large number of Amish sightings, there is only one practical conclusion: they move about at night in very high-speed conveyances.

Using secret high speed underground tunnels no doubt.

RBS

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 7:53:36pm

re: #171 Reality Based Steve

Using secret high speed underground tunnels no doubt.

RBS

Floo Powder [fixed spelling]

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Single-handed sailor  May 23, 2016 • 7:53:44pm

re: #151 Decatur Deb

There is a similar anabaptist group mostly in Canada, the Hutterites. They have stricter community ownership/cooperative doctrines than most Amish, but without any of the technology restrictions. That means they are unstoppable as hardcore farmers.

We used to go out to their farms in Manitoba to get permission to pick, for dinner, some of the best corn in the world.

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2016 • 7:54:38pm

re: #171 Reality Based Steve

Using secret high speed underground tunnels no doubt.

RBS

Sometimes they just pile into a minivan and floor it.

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FormerDirtDart  May 23, 2016 • 7:55:03pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

NICE!

[Embedded content]

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 7:55:07pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

With the relatively small number of Amish, and the large number of Amish sightings, there is only one practical conclusion: they move about at night in very high-speed conveyances.

They travel so slow that you keep passing them over and over without noticing.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2016 • 7:55:16pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

Has there ever been a bigger prick in national politics? Ever?

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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 7:55:59pm

re: #172 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Flue Powder

Floo Powder!

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 7:56:41pm

re: #170 calochortus

I went to college in the CA Central Valley and we used to see Mennonites shopping in town occasionally (the men weren’t particularly distinctive, but the women’s dresses were all made to the same pattern out of tiny-floral-print fabric.) They are everywhere.
(Cue dramatic music…)

As for the Bible College, I guess sending your kids there pretty much guarantees they won’t meet and marry anyone who isn’t a student there.

Oh, ya gotta look at their curriculum to see what they are really about. La Grange is roughly fifty miles from Scottsbluff (14,000), sixty miles from Cheyenne (50,000), and fifty miles from Bridgeport (1,100). Those are the closest towns outside La Grange (300).

frontierbible.org

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 7:57:30pm

re: #165 Anymouse

There was a Mennonite family near my childhood home that used to hide their television set in a closet when visitors came round their house.

There was a Mennonite family IN my childhood home - it was US!

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 7:58:18pm

re: #180 Blind Frog Belly White

There was a Mennonite family IN my childhood home - it was US!

Did you hide your TV in the closet? /s

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 7:59:33pm

re: #181 Anymouse

Did you hide your TV in the closet? /s

Nah. But we didn’t have color TV until the mid 1970s. Not anti-technology. Just cheap.

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2016 • 7:59:34pm

re: #177 Skip Intro

Has there ever been a bigger prick in national politics? Ever?

Ask the Creek and Cherokee.

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stpaulbear  May 23, 2016 • 8:01:03pm

I got pulled over in a state vehicle (with the agency’s logo on the side) for not slowing down to 45 in time. The trooper actually pulled a second car over first, then pulled me over, then went back to the first car while everyone gave me the stare of shame as they drove by. They were all so glad to see a state employee squirm.

The worst look I got was from an Amish guy in his horse-drawn buggy. He had plenty of time to give me the cold stare and give it to me again in his rear view mirror as he moved back onto the shoulder in front of me.

When the trooper finally came back, he gave me a warning rather than a ticket and I was very thankful but I was also wound up being late for my meeting.

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No Depression  May 23, 2016 • 8:02:08pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

NICE!

[Embedded content]

Noice.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 8:02:24pm

re: #182 Blind Frog Belly White

We didn’t have a TV at all until the mid-Seventies (no stations)

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calochortus  May 23, 2016 • 8:02:44pm

re: #179 Anymouse

Oh, ya gotta look at their curriculum to see what they are really about. La Grange is roughly fifty miles from Scottsbluff (14,000), sixty miles from Cheyenne (50,000), and fifty miles from Bridgeport (1,100). Those are the closest towns outside La Grange (300).

frontierbible.org

Alright then.

Frontier School of the Bible has never applied for regional accreditation as the school believes it would compromise its program and distinctives.

At least they aren’t trying to fool anyone.

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2016 • 8:03:21pm

‘Nite, All. Will have pretty spotty attendance this week. We’re experiencing a kindergartener infestation.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 8:05:43pm

re: #178 retired cynic

Floo Powder!

Right! I fixed it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 23, 2016 • 8:06:07pm

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

Anabaptists (which include Amish) may seem peaceful and quaint, but back in the 1500’s they scared the everloving fuck out of Henry VIII.

Quakers used to “go naked as a sign”, too.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 8:06:58pm

North Korea shuts down Donald Trump’s proposal to meet with its government.

GENEVA (Reuters) - U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s proposal to meet North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is a “kind of propaganda or advertisement” in his election race, a senior North Korean official said on Monday.

Trump, in a wide-ranging interview with Reuters in New York last week, said he is willing to talk to the North Korean leader to try to stop Pyongyang’s nuclear program, proposing a major shift in U.S. policy toward the isolated nation.

The Reuters article is culled from Huffington Post, and continues there: huffingtonpost.com

As crazy as they are, even North Korea is not crazy enough to let Mr. Trump into their country.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 8:07:33pm

A cat wandered into the yard, which wouldn’t normally be a problem except…Greyhounds. I alerted Mrs. FBW, who went out and tried to explain the situation. The problem is, she only scares people, so the cat was unimpressed.

I lashed up the Greyhounds and went out in the yard, where the cat actually APPROACHED them. Eventually the cat hopped up on the fence, and the dogs lost interest.

Since the cat was staying up out of danger, I let the dogs off leash. They were investigating the ground where the cat had been. Suddenly a bird flew up - a duck had been hiding in the ivy. Now Zeena and Rango are out going over the yard with a finetooth comb!

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 8:08:17pm

Who knew! A ski bum blog is interested in geography.

Facebook Post

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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 8:10:23pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

Who knew! A ski bum blog is interested in geography.

[Embedded content]

I LOVE maps!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2016 • 8:10:45pm

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

Anabaptists (which include Amish) may seem peaceful and quaint, but back in the 1500’s they scared the everloving fuck out of Henry VIII.

Yeah, “The priesthood of all believers” and “In the world but not OF the world” can be scary if you depend on religion for social control. If they don’t accept orthodoxy, or heirarchy, how can the state control the people?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 8:12:21pm

re: #190 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Quakers used to “go naked as a sign”, too.

Some Quakers were appalled at the extreme behavior of their members, and instituted “clearness committees” or “clearness meetings” to counsel errant members from their extremism. George Fox was well aware that a faith which taught everyone had a direct line to God would inevitably produce some Friends who were listening more to their own crazy thoughts that to God’s.

Compare that to the present-day phenomenon of independent Protestant churches led by pastors who claim they have all the answers direct from God.

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William Lewis  May 23, 2016 • 8:13:25pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

My mom let me drive her Audi TT to Steamboat Springs some years ago. She’s in the passenger seat, mind you. There’s a stretch of highway that’s straight for about four or five miles, something you don’t see often in the mountains of Colorado. “Mom, can I see how fast she can go?” Mom solemnly nods. I got it up to a buck fifty. Mom didn’t seem nervous. That’s the fastest speed I’ve experienced in a motor vehicle.

A little late to the party but I remember being home on leave and taking a friend record shopping in Minneapolis. All of a sudden he realizes we’re going to be late for his radio show. I look at him a say, “No, we’ll get there in time.” The only thing he said the rest of the trip was “Oh god” and variations thereof.

See, I had my mother’s 1976 Trans-Am. Gold. With the “big” engine and full bird image on the hood. Just about 100 miles from Downtown Minneapolis to Eau Claire WI and the speed limit was still 55… We got there in about 45 minutes or an average of 133 mph :D Pure American muscle car action. Only time i ever had a car I trusted enough to try that with. Had a cop seen me it would have been Smokey and the Bandit.

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jaunte  May 23, 2016 • 8:18:14pm

NICE

200
Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 8:21:24pm

re: #198 William Lewis

I got my Smart up to 95 mph on I-76 near Julesburg once driving between Denver and home, does that count as a muscle car? /s

(Normally we drive it under 45, due to the unpaved roads where we live.)

201
jaunte  May 23, 2016 • 8:22:15pm

Oh brother.

202
teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 8:22:16pm
203
Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2016 • 8:23:45pm

re: #201 jaunte

How brain dead does one have to be to think Trump is authentic?

(too much?)

204
jaunte  May 23, 2016 • 8:24:30pm

re: #203 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s an authentic narcissist, that he will tell you.

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Stanley Sea  May 23, 2016 • 8:24:34pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

NICE!

[Embedded content]

WaPo has been on his ass about this. He’s finally buckling down and donating the money he personally promised.

I think. He might change his mind tomorrow morning.

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Belafon  May 23, 2016 • 8:33:02pm
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stpaulbear  May 23, 2016 • 8:33:16pm

re: #199 jaunte

NICE

Nice!

208
Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 8:33:28pm

re: #205 Stanley Sea

WaPo has been on his ass about this. He’s finally buckling down and donating the money he personally promised.

I think. He might change his mind tomorrow morning.

Well, he is fluid and evolving on his positions you know.

RBS

209
stpaulbear  May 23, 2016 • 8:34:58pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

Nice!

210
Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 8:35:02pm

re: #208 Reality Based Steve

Well, he is fluid and evolving on his positions you know.

RBS

But evolution is a lie straight from the pit of hell, according to Ga. Rep. Paul Broun (R). Isn’t the GOP opposed to evolution?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2016 • 8:35:13pm
212
stpaulbear  May 23, 2016 • 8:35:50pm

Nice!

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Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 8:38:25pm

re: #210 Anymouse

But evolution is a lie straight from the pit of hell, according to Ga. Rep. Paul Broun (R). Isn’t the GOP opposed to evolution?

Yes. but Shutup!!!! ////

RBS

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 23, 2016 • 8:39:32pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

Who knew! A ski bum blog is interested in geography.

[Embedded content]

On the “Surnames by country” one, I’m puzzled that in Norway it’s “Hansen” spelled “en”, Danish-style.

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bratwurst  May 23, 2016 • 8:40:07pm

He is going to dislocate his shoulder patting himself on the back…

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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 8:41:12pm

re: #215 bratwurst

He is going to dislocate his shoulder patting himself on the back…

[Embedded content]

I’m sure he’s keeping the interest while he thinks about how to write the check.

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darthstar  May 23, 2016 • 8:41:23pm

Okay, this is funny…

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 8:41:28pm

re: #215 bratwurst

He is going to dislocate his shoulder patting himself on the back…

Dear Donald,

Show us the money.

Sincerely, a disabled vet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2016 • 8:41:35pm

re: #215 bratwurst

Notice how he doesn’t say “Given to Vets”, just “raised for.”

Where did all the money go Donald???

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BeachDem  May 23, 2016 • 8:44:51pm

re: #207 stpaulbear

Nice!

Every time TRUMP says, “Nice” all I can think of is Midnight the (creepy) cat and I want to shout, “Plunk your magic twanger, Froggie the Gremlin.”

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FormerDirtDart  May 23, 2016 • 8:47:16pm

re: #215 bratwurst

He is going to dislocate his shoulder patting himself on the back…

[Embedded content]

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darthstar  May 23, 2016 • 8:47:40pm

re: #220 BeachDem

Every time TRUMP says, “Nice” all I can think of is Midnight the (creepy) cat and I want to shout, “Plunk your magic twanger, Froggie the Gremlin.”

Plunk your magic twanger…can I use that?

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stpaulbear  May 23, 2016 • 8:48:06pm

re: #215 bratwurst

He is going to dislocate his shoulder patting himself on the back…

[Embedded content]

“Even the bad publicity is supposed to be GOOD publicity! You guys can’t do anything right! Fix it or get out of here!”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 23, 2016 • 8:48:14pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 8:49:53pm

re: #222 darthstar

The Ghoul and Froggy

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BeachDem  May 23, 2016 • 8:51:12pm

re: #222 darthstar

Plunk your magic twanger…can I use that?

Why sure—here’s a clip from the old Andy Devine Show (couldn’t find any good Midnight the Cat clips—but I think that’s what turned me against cats at an early age. I used to go hide in the kitchen cupboards when Midnight came on—totally freaked me out.)

Froggy the Gremlin

And yes, I am old.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 8:52:57pm

Green Party Senate candidate in Colorado (who was my county commissioner in the 90s) retweeted this here tweet of mine.

Fucker did this to sic his sycophant fans on me. One minute later this shows up in my mentions.

Fuckin’ dudebros, man. What a bunch of asses.

228
Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 8:53:39pm

Trump and Gingrich Totally Understand Women, Just Like Henry VIII (goes to Wonkette.)

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stpaulbear  May 23, 2016 • 9:01:45pm

re: #220 BeachDem

Every time TRUMP says, “Nice” all I can think of is Midnight the (creepy) cat and I want to shout, “Plunk your magic twanger, Froggie the Gremlin.”

Obviously, All I can think of is generic goods at Walgreen’s.

I also think of some dope I smoked after a band audition in the 70’s. I was tearing down and loading up my drums afterward, and one of the guys passed me a joint. I didn’t smoke a lot back then so when he asked how I liked it, I said ‘nice’. His face kind of squinched up, he looked at me sideways and said ‘nice? My cool factor kind of disintegrated as I packed up to go and was rapidly realizing that my shit was rapidly fucking up.

I was over in Minneapolis and realizing I was too stoned drive, so I found my way to the band house of the group that had just broken up and crashed for about 4 hours on their sofa. It was not a stellar day, and Dez Dickerson didn’t hire me into his band. ( i don’t blame him.)

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jaunte  May 23, 2016 • 9:01:48pm

re: #207 stpaulbear

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Nyet  May 23, 2016 • 11:38:14pm

re: #28 Kragar

Sean Hannity’s guests today:

Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones.

I expect they’ll be back again and again and again

One positive from all this negative stuff is that this may motivate someone responsible to sort out the Broaddrick story and see if there is ‘there’ there. Her story hasn’t been refuted so far, AFAIK. Ultimately it may prove unverifiable one way or another though.

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steve_davis  May 24, 2016 • 5:09:08am

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

If you’d gone much faster, you’d probably have run into the electronic governor. That saves Audi on tires, since they can put in lower rated tires than the ungoverned car could reach.

My Challenger R/T has - so I’ve been told - a governor set at 145, because it’s sold with V-rated tires. I just put on a new set of Y-rated tires, so I could theoretically ask the dealer to take off the governor, but when am I gonna need 160 mph?

you’ve clearly never been chased by cgi dinosaurs.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 24, 2016 • 1:49:10pm

re: #149 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s steamjunk.


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