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electrotek  May 23, 2016 • 8:55:44pm

Oh man

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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 8:56:54pm

re: #1 electrotek

Oh man

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What the?

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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 9:00:44pm

re: #2 retired cynic

Makes you wonder what he was doing when he was a Muslim?

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 9:03:41pm

I broke the comment string so I will repost the last comment here.

Trump and Gingrich Totally Understand Women, Just Like Henry VIII (goes to Wonkette)

According to an article published Monday in the National Review, the two are beautiful “kindred spirits” due to both their ability to harness white male anger and their many divorces. Which, in case you were unsure, is totally a plus, because it shows they “understand women.” Unlike Hillary Clinton, who knows absolutely nothing about how much women enjoy it when their husband presents them with divorce papers when they are in the hospital recovering from uterine cancer so he can go marry another lady.

“I think Newt is lobbying to be the vice president, and I think their people are paying a lot of attention to him,” says Ed Rollins, a Republican operative and former Gingrich staffer now working for a super PAC supporting Trump’s candidacy. “It’d be a ticket with six former wives, kind of like a Henry VIII thing,” Rollins says. “They certainly understand women.”

The Wonkette article includes a link to the National Review article.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 23, 2016 • 9:05:12pm

Playoff sportspuck, man. >.>

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 23, 2016 • 9:08:11pm

re: #4 Anymouse

I broke the comment string so I will repost the last comment here.

Trump and Gingrich Totally Understand Women, Just Like Henry VIII (goes to Wonkette)

The Wonkette article includes a link to the National Review article.

You gotta admit, this pic is a thing of beauty:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 23, 2016 • 9:10:34pm
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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 9:13:03pm

A comment over at Wonkette:

“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and behead my wife and wouldn’t lose any voters, ok? It’s, like, incredible.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 23, 2016 • 9:13:20pm

re: #7 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Sorry, that should have been:

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 9:13:21pm
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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 9:15:11pm

I love this track!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2016 • 9:15:17pm

re: #6 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He’s Donald Trump the Eighth he is,
Donald Trump the Eight he is, he is,
He’s Donald Trump the Eight he is,
Donald Trump the Eighth he is!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2016 • 9:17:46pm

re: #5 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Playoff sportspuck, man. >.>

I’ll be thrilled if the Sharks make the Cup final. They deserve it.

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Reality Based Steve  May 23, 2016 • 9:20:51pm

Good night one and all. I’m off to find a warm rock and maybe a tasty grub to nosh on.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 9:23:31pm

Sam Bee is HAWT!!!

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retired cynic  May 23, 2016 • 9:26:35pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

All she missed was to dilate one pupil.

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BeachDem  May 23, 2016 • 9:33:27pm

re: #7 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Did somebody mention Newt and chickens? Ohhh, you said CHICKS. (never mind)

Who are you calling arrogant?
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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 9:36:47pm

Been getting sporadic messages from Bernfucks that also support local senate candidate @ArnMenconi. These people are delusional.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 9:40:08pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

I supported Senator Sanders in our state caucuses.

That said, I am neither delusional nor an idiot. It seems very likely that Senator Sanders cannot win (barring a meteor strike on the Clinton campaign). It is my intent to crawl over broken glass and three hundred miles of lava if necessary to vote for Secretary Clinton in the General Election.

(In this very red state however, we have mail voting in the rural areas such as mine. Just as easy to vote as in say Oregon. It is almost as if voter impersonation fraud is not a thing in areas where Republicans are in the majority, something they only pull out when they think they might lose.)

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 9:43:49pm

re: #19 Anymouse

It sounds like you don’t want to vote for Hillary Clinton.

I didn’t want to vote for Hillary Clinton. But the Democratic Party has spoken. And now, looking at the options, I will gladly cast my vote for Hillary with a smile, without all the broken glass shit.

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2016 • 9:44:11pm
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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 9:46:03pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

It sounds like you don’t want to vote for Hillary Clinton.

I didn’t want to vote for Hillary Clinton. But the Democratic Party has spoken. And looking at the options, I will gladly cast my vote for Hillary with a smile, without all the broken glass shit.

It is not that I don’t want to vote for Hillary Clinton; I am sure she will make a fine president. It is not that I dislike Mrs. Clinton at all. I preferred some of Senator Sanders policy positions and his position on veterans affairs.

It is not a choice of choosing between “the lesser of two evils” as is often said about American politics. It is about choosing pragmatism (Clinton) over evil (Trump or Cruz).

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FormerDirtDart  May 23, 2016 • 9:49:07pm

re: #16 retired cynic

All she missed was to dilate one pupil.

OK, that made me chuckle.
I was remembering a parrot my team had while we were in Honduras. It always had one iris dilated and one constricted. And, they would change together, constantly. The bird also screamed at everyone if they walked within it’s field of vision. And, it tried to bite everyone.
So, of course we named it Psycho…

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 9:51:09pm

I unfollowed and unfriended my former county commissioner tonight because he’s an insufferable Bernfuck who sics his followers on me when I say something critical of him.

That’s the attitude Bernfucks have these days. They can’t achieve electoral victories so they resort to intimidation of *people who are on their goddamned side*. It’s beyond ridiculous at this point.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 9:55:27pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

I unfollowed and unfriended my former county commissioner tonight because he’s an insufferable Bernfuck who sics his followers on me when I say something critical of him.

That’s the attitude Bernfucks have these days. They can’t achieve electoral victories so they resort to intimidation of *people who are on their goddamned side*. It’s beyond ridiculous at this point.

Well, as far as I know I am the only Sanders supporter in my town, but I don’t go around beating up people about who they support. (I have suggested to more than one Trump supporter they reconsider their support for him. More than one in town dropped their support for Mr. Trump over the crazy, and all the Trump yard signs have disappeared.)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 23, 2016 • 10:03:19pm

BoingBoing: Ladies and Gentlemen, The Wasington Post

Words Fail.

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2016 • 10:06:50pm

re: #22 Anymouse

It is not that I don’t want to vote for Hillary Clinton; I am sure she will make a fine president. It is not that I dislike Mrs. Clinton at all. I preferred some of Senator Sanders policy positions and his position on veterans affairs.

It is not a choice of choosing between “the lesser of two evils” as is often said about American politics. It is about choosing pragmatism (Clinton) over evil (Trump or Cruz).

I appreciate your position and believe most of Senator Sanders supporters are like you, attracted to his ideas but not jaded or hateful towards Sec. Clinton. I’ve described the things that have turned me off about Sanders and the way he’s conducted his campaign lately but many of those things are probably endemic to hard fought campaigns in general.

I will however note that Sanders used the phrase you describe, “the lesser of two evils” this weekend to describe Clinton vs Trump. I really don’t think that kind of rhetoric is helpful at all. Combined with other things like calling her unqualified, and lying about her calling him that in order to do it, I have to admit I’m deeply worried about his post primary intentions.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 10:08:58pm

re: #26 Eric The Fruit Bat

I wrote a response to the libertarian wingnut that wrote the WaPo piece to an on-line discussion group of which I am a member. I was not terribly charitable.

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Ace-o-aces  May 23, 2016 • 10:09:02pm

Hey, he should write a book about that….oh wait

Dead Zone (Movie) - The Missiles Are Flying

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 10:12:47pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

That phrase “lesser of two evils” needs to die in a fire. There is only evil and not evil.

*And Mrs. Clinton is not evil.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 10:13:06pm

The Ultra-Spirituality guru, J P Sears, has been mentioned on the BBC, regarding his video on insufferably smug vegans.

bbc.com

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2016 • 10:28:25pm

As I’ve said before it was when Bernie called Hillary unqualified that pushed me over into volunteering for her campaign. As a 42 year old straight divorced white guy I’m not exactly in the target demographic for HFA volunteers either, it’s mostly older ladies and minorities. The guys I’ve seen at training or events that are my age or younger have been minorities, or gay, or gay minorities, or were dragged there by their wives. One black gentleman in the group we formed at training, probably seven to ten years older than me, described this as “the most important election of my lifetime.” We have an immigrant woman from Gabon in that group, her thick accent makes phone banking difficult but she’s doing it, she’s absolutely terrified of Trump and the kind of hell he’ll unleash.

Just so we’re clear I’m a pretty severe introvert too, I hate calling up strangers on the phone or driving around ringing doorbells doing GOTV canvassing. It’s obviously not impossible for me because I am doing it, and it’s not that different from the data gathering I did for my Master’s Degree thesis. But honestly, I hate it, that’s how badly Sanders pissed me off, he’s got me out there doing shit I straight up fucking loathe to try and fix the damage I think he’s inflicted. Every time I dial a number or get out of the car to talk to some total random person I’ve never met before I have to psych myself up. But the good news, if anybody else is on the fence about volunteering too, is that the campaign is so targeted with quality data that the positive responses far outnumber the bad ones, and the bad ones aren’t that bad either.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 10:30:48pm

Reprinting my post to another forum in opposition to the Washington Post op-ed:

washingtonpost.com

With an article that contains the phrase “before you call me an elitist” (such phrases usually indicate that is exactly what you are—similar to “I’m not a racist but”), the senior editor of The Federalist (a proto-fascist right wing Website for conservatives and libertarians I will not link here) suggests civics tests to prove you are sufficiently informed to vote. (Not a current events test which would be more useful: For example, why are Kansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin currently libertarian economic Dumpster fires?)

I’m glad to see the alleged liberal media is allowing fascist libertarians a platform to culture-jam their views. As the Washington Post is now owned by another libertarian (Jeff Bezos, the owner of Amazon), it is not much of a surprise. Both of them are Ayn Rand acolytes (libertarianism works much as a religion does, with dogmas that must be accepted as true uncritically, &c, see again Kansas et alia).

Also arguing this is in no way similar to Jim Crow voting laws (arguing black is white; it is precisely the same thing, considering continuing unequal education in the USA, and Jim Crow states used alleged civics tests), David Harsanyi argues “never have people with so little knowledge made decisions for the rest of us” (no elitism there). His goal is to weed out “irresponsible voters.” That was the exact stated goal of the Jim Crow South, in which I had the pleasure of attending a segregated elementary school when I lived in Maryland.

Mr. Harsanyi of course cannot conceive of the idea that states would use such a test to prevent the wrong people from voting (such as someone with a foreign name like Harsanyi; this is why the government struck down poll taxes and civics tests for voting—see IX and XXIV Amendments and the Civil Rights Act of 1964).

He offers four sample questions for such a questionnaire (note how none of them actually would give you informed voters):

“If both the President and the Vice President can no longer serve, who becomes President?” (Doesn’t matter in determining my city council or my own representative or senator, and the Speaker of the House is elected by the majority party and voters have no say in the Speaker’s ascension to President anyway).

“There were 13 original states. Name three.” (This has nothing to do with voting, and is a history question, not a civics question. How does knowing Vermont was originally a republic and not one of the Thirteen Colonies affect my ability to select my state governor? How about name three states formed from the Louisiana Purchase, or the Treaty of Hildalgo Guadalupe, since both treaties arguably had massive transformative effects on the nation’s history as well. How about naming the states involved in the Toledo Strip War? [Answer: Only one, Ohio. Michigan, the other belligerent in that border war, was a territory at the time. How about who lost that war? Michigan lost the Toledo Strip and Wisconsin Territory was forced to give the entire Upper Peninsula to Michigan Territory as compensation, though Wisconsin was not involved. All that over a cartography error when the Northwest Ordinance was created. The end of the Toledo Strip War was settled in the 1970’s when the Supreme Court finally settled the water boundary between Michigan and Ohio in Lake Erie, giving a slew of islands to Ohio by canting the water boundary in a different direction from the land boundary.)

“What is one right or freedom from the First Amendment?” (Free speech without interference from the government, including the right to spout wingnut fascist libertarianism.)

“What is freedom of religion?” (How does this determine my ability to vote?) An answer could easily be construed in a subjective way. For example, a majority of Americans hold that atheism is not protected by the I Amendment (the Supreme Court differs). Who reviews the test? Put in a fundamentalist and lots of people would fail this question (Catholics, Muslims, atheists, maybe even Methodists).

Numerous conservative and libertarian wingnuts claim that Islam is a political system and not a religious one (and claim Christianity is the reverse when in fact both religions hold political views); political beliefs are protected by the same amendment even if that claim was true. Many states have laws prohibiting atheists from holding office [currently unenforceable but the Supreme Court could rule differently]. Corporations can now impose religious views on employees despite being areligious themselves. Good way to weed out people of the wrong religion from voting (read Muslims and atheists in every conservative state, Catholics in Utah and Dixie, &c).

His whole article (linked above) is an elitist (though I am sure he would disagree with my poor high school educated assessment) argument to re-impose Jim Crow laws in the name of ensuring “uneducated voters” do not vote. Yup, that’s why I served a seventeen year career in the military, to restrict voting rights… .

So what do you think? Should there be a civics test to vote (many Americans cannot pass the test to become a naturalised citizen), and if so, who writes and scores it?

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William Lewis  May 23, 2016 • 10:42:33pm

re: #33 Anymouse

Bravo!

It is said that every vet wrote a undated check to the government for up to and including their life. Many get it cashed for the full, many others pay a smaller price and are “only” injured in the course of their duties. Still others are fortunate enough to never have to pay on that check in exchange for the President’s Dollar. None of them wrote that check in the expectation of voiding any part of the Constitution.

I did 16 years to preserve and expand freedom in our nation and our world. Funk those right wing anarchists and their masturbatory fantasies.

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Targetpractice  May 23, 2016 • 10:43:50pm

re: #30 Anymouse

That phrase “lesser of two evils” needs to die in a fire. There is only evil and not evil.

*And Mrs. Clinton is not evil.

“Lesser of two evils” the mating cry of ideologues who try to deny that that’s what they are. Progressives are supposed to be open to change, it’s what “progress” means, yet the #BernieorBust crowd are every bit as close-minded as the Tea Partiers are. It doesn’t matter that there’s a wide gulf between Clinton and Trump, to an ideologue anybody who’s not 100% in lockstep with them is “as bad” as somebody 100% opposed to them.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 10:49:21pm

re: #34 William Lewis

Agreed.

I have used that quote on occasion.

re: #35 Targetpractice

“Lesser of two evils” the mating cry of ideologues who try to deny that that’s what they are. Progressives are supposed to be open to change, it’s what “progress” means, yet the #BernieorBust crowd are every bit as close-minded as the Tea Partiers are. It doesn’t matter that there’s a wide gulf between Clinton and Trump, to an ideologue anybody who’s not 100% in lockstep with them is “as bad” as somebody 100% opposed to them.

It is my hope (I am not on Twitter or Facebook) that the Bernie or Bust crowd are a very loud minority. Though my county went for Sanders in the state caucus, no one here has any intent of going for “bust.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 10:51:40pm

re: #33 Anymouse

The Federalist dudes probably argue that only property owners should have the right to vote, since that was the original intent of the Founding Fathers. Jonah Goldberg or some other conservative yakker proposed this in a column a few years back.

A civics test, on paper, seems like a great idea. But the same people who propose it also favor gutting public education. So the test would really be a kind of insurance that only “properly educated” voters could vote — that is, the elite, who would presumably have been educated in private academies, unlike the underclasses, who would be forced to attend underfunded public schools.

So, in practice, a civics test would just be another way to prevent the wrong kind of people from voting.

On other hand, requiring everyone to take the US citizenship exam given to immigrants would be highly instructive. I’d bet more than half the people who were born in the USA could not pass that test.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 23, 2016 • 10:55:19pm

re: #37 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Federalist dudes probably argue that only property owners should have the right to vote, since that was the original intent of the Founding Fathers. Jonah Goldberg or some other conservative yakker proposed this in a column a few years back.

A civics test, on paper, seems like a great idea. But the same people who propose it also favor gutting public education. So the test would really be a kind of insurance that only “properly educated” voters could vote — that is, the elite, who would presumably have been educated in private academies, unlike the underclasses, who would be forced to attend underfunded public schools.

So, in practice, a civics test would just be another way to prevent the wrong kind of people from voting.

On other hand, requiring everyone to take the US citizenship exam given to immigrants would be highly instructive. I’d bet more than half the people who were born in the USA could not pass that test.

They always used to say about 1/4 of the respondents in every survey couldn’t tell you who the current President was. Maybe for good or ill, Obama’s Presidency has fixed that.

Thanks, Obama!

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2016 • 10:58:08pm
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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 10:58:33pm

Public schools are theft of money at the point of a gun!!!one!!11uno1!!1eleventy!!

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2016 • 10:59:13pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Edited. Reload. Second tweet was wrong one.

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Targetpractice  May 23, 2016 • 11:04:41pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

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Let me tell you about my mother…

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Kragar  May 23, 2016 • 11:08:16pm

re: #29 Ace-o-aces

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 11:09:32pm

re: #40 Anymouse

Public schools are theft of money at the point of a gun!!!one!!11uno1!!1eleventy!!

Yeah. Libertarians and right wing nutjobs sound that alarm over and over again. “Why should I be penalized financially to pay for education when I don’t have kids myself?”

Likewise, they complain about public libraries, public road taxes, parks — anything that the government maintains for the commonweal. They’re also the first to blame the government when things go wrong.

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Lidane  May 23, 2016 • 11:15:01pm

This should go over well:

At the center of the bill is a $2,500 tax credit that any citizen could use to purchase health insurance. The plan would repeal ObamaCare’s mandates for individuals to have coverage and for employers to provide it, as well as the reform law’s requirements for what an insurance plan must cover.

But much of ObamaCare would remain, including its safeguards against insurers discriminating based on pre-existing conditions. The law’s tax increases would also be kept.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 11:15:11pm

re: #44 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My wife used to make that argument. (She was at one time a Libertarian Party campaign finance manager for a candidate from Colorado running for the House. She has no children.)

She has softened her position on financing education. (She went to university when she was sixteen, earning two degrees, then went for the “pull up the ladder behind me” position.)

She is no longer a Libertarian. (She even became our village public library director, something she would have opposed a couple decades ago.) Strangely, she never read anything by Rand (she noted Shrugged had her bored by about page three).

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 11:29:36pm

re: #33 Anymouse

Unfortunately, I’ve been reading David Harsanyi’s stuff since I was a teenager. His shit column got published in the Rocky Mountain News once a week when that paper was around. That guy is one of the most horrible cynics I’ve ever read. Even when things are going his way ideologically he finds way to snark and make it sound like the *end of the Republic is near*.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 11:32:26pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

Unfortunately, I’ve been reading David Harsanyi’s stuff since I was a teenager. His shit column got published in the Rocky Mountain News once a week when that paper was around. That guy is one of the most horrible cynics I’ve ever read. Even when things are going his way ideologically he finds way to snark and make it sound like the *end of the Republic is near*.

My wife claims to be the Head Cynic.

She has a blog in which she catalogues absurd ways the world will be destroyed (such as decaf coffee trees - yes they’re a thing and the gene is dominant - will overrun the regular coffee trees and humanity will fall asleep).

Cynics for a Better Tomorrow

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2016 • 11:33:03pm

re: #45 Lidane

“The plan would repeal ObamaCare’s mandates for individuals to have coverage and for employers to provide it, as well as the reform law’s requirements for what an insurance plan must cover.

But much of ObamaCare would remain, including its safeguards against insurers discriminating based on pre-existing conditions. The law’s tax increases would also be kept.”

Who cares if pre-existing conditions are covered in theory of there’s no mandate for what insurance plans must cover? The last thing buyers want is to go back to shopping for plans to see if they cover basic shit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 11:35:12pm

re: #46 Anymouse

My wife used to make that argument. (She was at one time a Libertarian Party campaign finance manager for a candidate from Colorado running for the House. She has no children.)

She has softened her position on financing education. (She went to university when she was sixteen, earning two degrees, then went for the “pull up the ladder behind me” position.)

She is no longer a Libertarian. (She even became our village public library director, something she would have opposed a couple decades ago.) Strangely, she never read anything by Rand (she noted Shrugged had her bored by about page three).

Libertarianism is another form of idealism masquerading as a political and economic theory. It completely ignores the baser sides of human emotions, such as greed and egotism, which tank any attempts to have a completely libertarian society. Life could be gravy for the people at the top, but it would be hell for everyone below that rank. Libertarians convince themselves they’d be at the top, of course.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 11:35:24pm

re: #37 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

requiring everyone to take the US citizenship exam given to immigrants would be highly instructive. I’d bet more than half the people who were born in the USA could not pass that test.

There’s a truth if I ever read one.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 23, 2016 • 11:36:21pm

OK, time to teachify. BBL

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 11:39:44pm

vXtd7y6P/nTr0H+VEfZsexEfM2QP/dAlJwox2e2YeuZK3hSJH6AgeNME0Gn4uOrOpZ8jrGUB55F6C03T8k1QYQjvGyMZtoTNW2GHwA9zSZ9JQQ9OwsG9g1x+NR7N5QREOeYFFeGRS+/WC0MZqE1PoiOzjQJtXqp/99FXoV8LrBeW86WjEWhcMx4g5w6Zb4wSXaPe/y4c1l2SXe3s0Hi5KTgH8tu3k8DCgVVceR/0Sv9+uYUV/gj8QxNQPA1kyam0Nu2/vzjTW1Dhe/9olHt76ETKOA2Wd8/hajG4uHRwy8dJdcjY6Z/v4zRBMeopoQdeiHcA2V2tjp5jo0UbSA8h+S1f+0wJ2Ux/5W8Wei6Fq0bnH8rTJPNoc5IksnaKsIqoppYDQ3DfjYsAd0L6JusRM6kPtwJuNcbEllszMw8y6Z8S6nGCh5nmctKtbU+Gci58AlUkcKof4fMofZi0JN5sr5itAh1r3U2QwAbLiGvpp0A=

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 11:42:18pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

Thanks. I will have to throw a Tubman or two in Charles’s direction.

Heck, if a liberal atheist erotic Romance editor can get elected in an uber-conservative village, anyone here ought to do all right.

(Campaign sign idea: Vote for me: I edit sexytimes.)

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2016 • 11:46:42pm

re: #54 Anymouse

I changed the private setting so everybody can see my comment, not just you and me.

It’s still private, but, y’know, Charles gives us *options*.

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Anymouse  May 23, 2016 • 11:48:58pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

I changed the private setting so everybody can see my comment, not just you and me.

It’s still private, but, y’know, Charles gives us *options*.

I’ve edited a few options. (NSFW)

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2016 • 12:31:25am

re: #45 Lidane

This should go over well:

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So they remove the individual mandate, encouraging younger and healthier folks to “opt out” of the system and leaving insurance companies to choke on the older and sicker people who can’t afford to just drop their insurance.

And then they offer a tax credit to breaks down to $208/month, which is plenty if you’re young and healthy but if you’re older and unhealthy will be a pittance.

Seems to be just like all the ACA “alternatives” that the GOP offers up, geared totally towards people who can afford to do without at the expense of those who can’t. I’m surprised they didn’t work HSAs in there somewhere.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2016 • 12:54:02am
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teleskiguy  May 24, 2016 • 1:20:52am

Flickr

Apollo 11 Hasselblad image from film magazine 40/S - EVA

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Kragar  May 24, 2016 • 1:28:18am

40k Time

Hive Worlds

A Hive World is the most populous type of Imperial planet, of which there are approximately 32,380 currently catalogued by the Administratum in the Imperium of Man. The populations of these planets are so great that the people live in huge urban arcologies called hive cities, truly immense, self-contained, many-layered structures that reach high into the sky, each housing billions of individuals. Hive Worlds often provide much-needed industrial labour, their manufactoria producing mountains of war materiel and other goods to meet the Imperial tithe’s demands. Most Hive Worlds started out as relatively hospitable places to live but have become severely polluted, the areas outside the hives reduced to ash wastes or radioactive desert by the never-ceasing industry of the great cities. Equally dangerous can be the hives themselves. The crime-ridden, poverty-stricken areas, almost always found in the most polluted and decrepit lower levels of the under-hive, are home to violent gangs, criminals and assorted scum as well as mutants and heretical cults who hide there from the authorities. It has been said that the sacrifice of over a million Imperial soldiers is worth “one day’s Hive World production” in weapons and armour.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 1:34:18am

re: #50 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Libertarianism is another form of idealism masquerading as a political and economic theory. It completely ignores the baser sides of human emotions, such as greed and egotism, which tank any attempts to have a completely libertarian society. Life could be gravy for the people at the top, but it would be hell for everyone below that rank. Libertarians convince themselves they’d be at the top, of course.

If we reproduced by hatching out fully formed adults who could be implanted with a Basic Education chip and sent off to fulfill their potential in a competitive social setting, then Libertarianism and Randism would be entirely viable alternatives.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2016 • 1:38:27am

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Apollo 14 Hasselblad image from film magazine 64/LL - EVA-2

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2016 • 1:41:16am

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Apollo 11 Hasselblad image from film magazine 44/V - LM inspection, rendezvous

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 1:44:19am

re: #57 Targetpractice

Seems to be just like all the ACA “alternatives” that the GOP offers up, geared totally towards people who can afford to do without at the expense of those who can’t. I’m surprised they didn’t work HSAs in there somewhere.

It’s not “Obamacare”, and that is its main selling point…

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Timothy Watson  May 24, 2016 • 1:47:52am

re: #57 Targetpractice

So they remove the individual mandate, encouraging younger and healthier folks to “opt out” of the system and leaving insurance companies to choke on the older and sicker people who can’t afford to just drop their insurance.

And then they offer a tax credit to breaks down to $208/month, which is plenty if you’re young and healthy but if you’re older and unhealthy will be a pittance.

Seems to be just like all the ACA “alternatives” that the GOP offers up, geared totally towards people who can afford to do without at the expense of those who can’t. I’m surprised they didn’t work HSAs in there somewhere.

And a $2,500 tax credit in the future doesn’t do anything to help you pay for the insurance today, and would be of limit effect to lower-income people (who might pay less than $2,500 in federal income taxes anyway) unless they make refundable.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2016 • 1:49:11am
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teleskiguy  May 24, 2016 • 2:06:18am

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Apollo 17 Hasselblad image from film magazine 142/M - EVA-3

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BlackPearl  May 24, 2016 • 2:42:44am

re: #57 Targetpractice

So they remove the individual mandate, encouraging younger and healthier folks to “opt out” of the system and leaving insurance companies to choke on the older and sicker people who can’t afford to just drop their insurance.

And then they offer a tax credit to breaks down to $208/month, which is plenty if you’re young and healthy but if you’re older and unhealthy will be a pittance.

Seems to be just like all the ACA “alternatives” that the GOP offers up, geared totally towards people who can afford to do without at the expense of those who can’t. I’m surprised they didn’t work HSAs in there somewhere.

Oh, but if you eliminate the requirements on what insurance has to cover, then no insurance company will cover expensive conditions. What might that include? forbes.com

Cancer, stroke, heart attack, premature baby…

Because, let’s be clear, if this were law, there would be no possible way for insurance companies to stay in business covering these.

1) If you cover the above conditions, you must charge high insurance rates to cover them.
2) Insurance companies that do not cover them will be able to charge lower rates.
3) Customers of the cheaper, non-covering insurance companies will be able to switch to the more-expensive, covering companies (roughly*) as soon as they are diagnosed with a condition.
4) Covering companies will not be able to deny them based on the condition.
5) Covering companies will have to raise their rates even further, because they are selecting for new customers who have not paid in, but who are very expensive.
6) Covering companies will very soon become non-covering companies, or go bankrupt. Pick one.

*depending on the switching rules. Get your cancer diagnosed in November in time for open enrollment, kids!

Why do Republicans hate insurance companies, and capitalism?

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 3:13:12am

Burgers do not cost $US 170 in Venezuela.

According to expatistan.com a Big Mac-type meal is a steal at around $37.
The estimate is from April.
Checkmate filthy western media.

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lockjawcanbefun  May 24, 2016 • 3:15:45am

News you really don’t want to wake up to:

The Tragically Hip - Bobcaygeon

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2016 • 3:22:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 4:12:20am

re: #69 Alyosha

Burgers do not cost $US 170 in Venezuela.

According to expatistan.com a Big Mac-type meal is a steal at around $37.
The estimate is from April.
Checkmate filthy western media.

Socialism = $ 170 for a Big Mac. That is now entrenched in the minds of Fox News viewers…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 24, 2016 • 4:18:03am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Socialism = $ 170 for a Big Mac. That is now entrenched in the minds of Fox News viewers…

Prices for American fast food in China are almost the same (in dollars) as similar items in the USA, FWIW.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 4:20:36am

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Prices for American fast food in China are almost the same (in dollars) as similar items in the USA, FWIW.

The Big Mac Index was invented by the Economist as an indicator of the difference between exchange rate and actual value of various currencies.

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 4:25:03am

No one eats Big Macs in a country that has a toilet paper shortage anyway.

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 4:42:17am

Sam Bee sounds a bit over the Bernomenon.

Feel The Turn | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS

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dangerman  May 24, 2016 • 4:51:13am

re: #44 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Likewise, they complain about public libraries, public road taxes, parks — anything that the government maintains for the commonweal….

and whatever they don’t personally use or feel they get the benefit of.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 4:52:02am

re: #77 dangerman

and whatever they don’t personally use or feel they get the benefit of.

You mean like their parents’ basements?

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Barefoot Grin  May 24, 2016 • 4:57:44am

I looked at Daily Kos today for the first time in years (I have work to do that I’m putting off doing). Interesting piece by Kos called “11 reasons Bernie lost fair and square.” The comments contain a fair amount of head-in-the-sand push back, but also a fair amount of “I’m Berned Out” and “Bernie lost me.”

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The Engineer Lobuno  May 24, 2016 • 5:08:34am

re: #30 Anymouse

That phrase “lesser of two evils” needs to die in a fire. There is only evil and not evil.

*And Mrs. Clinton is not evil.

The phrase still has its place in the lexicon. I mean, if you’re given the option between anchovies and pineapple pizza, obviously you go for the lesser of two evils.

// Just kidding. :P

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JDRhoades  May 24, 2016 • 5:10:08am

re: #25 Anymouse

Well, as far as I know I am the only Sanders supporter in my town, but I don’t go around beating up people about who they support.

It’s okay if you’re a Clintonista!

They just hate all that Bernfuck name-calling.

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JDRhoades  May 24, 2016 • 5:23:31am

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

I will however note that Sanders used the phrase you describe, “the lesser of two evils” this weekend to describe Clinton vs Trump.

The article you cite contains this quote:

“ABC host George Stephanopoulos asked Sanders if he would describe Trump and Clinton as “the lesser of two evils.” Sanders said that it was the voters’ line.
“Well, if you look - No, I wouldn’t describe it, but that’s what the American people are saying,” Sanders replied. “If you look at the favorability ratings of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, both of them have very, very high unfavorables.”

And you know, he’s right. Clinton DOES have unusually high unfavorables. And there are a LOT of people tacitly saying that “well, I’m not crazy about Clinton, but she’s better than Trump.” I hear it every day. Hell, the major line her supporters are taking right now is, “well, if you don’t support Hillary, you get Trump.”

I have been a Sanders supporter from the beginning, but I’ve defended Clinton against some of the stupider attacks on her, like the claim she ordered the military to stand down in Benghazi and the “damn e-mails”. I’ve actually been doing that for years. You can look it up.

I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I’ll be voting for my second choice in the general election, although some of her supporters don’t make that easy.

But if people claim things about what Sanders said that simply are not true, I’m going to push back against them as well.

If this be “Bernfuckery,” then let us make the most of it.

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Patricia Kayden  May 24, 2016 • 5:46:47am

re: #33 Anymouse

I assume it would be straight up unconstitutional for any state to pass laws restricting voting to those who take a test. Just goes to show how dumb people like Harsanyi are. They better stick to easier voter suppression tools like voter ID laws.

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Patricia Kayden  May 24, 2016 • 5:49:18am

So I guess when Conservatives whine, they get what they want. Shame on Facebook for taking those silly “bias” claims seriously.

telegraph.co.uk

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 5:50:02am

2024- ‘You know, Cenk marched with Bernie.’

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 5:53:47am

re: #84 Patricia Kayden

So I guess when Conservatives whine, they get what they want. Shame on Facebook for taking those silly “bias” claims seriously.

telegraph.co.uk

It was over the “trending topics” I see. Damn of all the petty shit to whine about.

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 5:55:45am

re: #85 Alyosha

Also: how do you have kids after being interned in one of Shillary’s secret castration camps?

// (fuck it, I’m a leper)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 5:56:56am

re: #84 Patricia Kayden

So I guess when Conservatives whine, they get what they want. Shame on Facebook for taking those silly “bias” claims seriously.

telegraph.co.uk

They already need to start piling up excuses when their candidate loses the election and “liberal media bias” plays well among those whose news sources, like Fox or EIB, are totally Fair and Balanced.

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 5:58:37am

re: #84 Patricia Kayden

One of our right-wing gammy wankers caught a whiff of that steaming pile of shit.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 6:00:19am

re: #89 Alyosha

One of our right-wing gammy wankers caught a whiff of that steaming pile of shit.

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From my impression, the trending stories link to leading publications I.e the NYT or WaPo, I mean datum conservatives are some whiny children.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 6:04:53am

Ah, Javert…

Javert’s Suicide - Philip Quast

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 24, 2016 • 6:05:39am

re: #60 Kragar

have you seen the new Total War Warhammer game coming out? They’re going back to their high fantasy roots with a medieval turn based RTS.

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 6:10:39am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

From my impression, the trending stories link to leading publications I.e the NYT or WaPo, I mean datum conservatives are some whiny children.

Whilst pretending to be the adult in the room that knows better than you.

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jeffreyw  May 24, 2016 • 6:11:11am

Imgur
Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 6:11:20am

re: #93 Alyosha

Whilst pretending to be the adult in the room that knows better than you.

Right.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 6:12:08am

Every few weeks there’s been a news story like this. The latest one differs only in scope; it includes more schools and even crosses national boundaries.

Someone is calling in bomb threats to schools across the nation, requiring massive police/law enforcement response to clear schools of possible threats.

The calls were reported in California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Utah, Vermont, Washington and Wisconsin.

Ken Trump, a national school security expert and president of a school security consulting firm, said Monday’s nationwide bomb hoaxes have the hallmarks of swatting.

Swatting, according to Trump, are “highly disruptive” hoax threats that are intended to trigger massive police response. Trump said they are often described as robotic, computer-generated voices that call in threats to schools or police departments.

A single swatting case can impact multiple states, jurisdictions and even travel across international borders, Trump said.

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makeitstop  May 24, 2016 • 6:14:12am

re: #96 lawhawk

Every few weeks there’s been a news story like this. The latest one differs only in scope; it includes more schools and even crosses national boundaries.

Someone is calling in bomb threats to schools across the nation, requiring massive police/law enforcement response to clear schools of possible threats.

My niece in PA had one called in to her daughter’s school yesterday. Her son goes to the same school, so it was a doubly nervous time.

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Barefoot Grin  May 24, 2016 • 6:14:34am

re: #96 lawhawk

Every few weeks there’s been a news story like this. The latest one differs only in scope; it includes more schools and even crosses national boundaries.

Someone is calling in bomb threats to schools across the nation, requiring massive police/law enforcement response to clear schools of possible threats.

Yep, several schools across the state evacuated yesterday. Assholes.

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Dave In Austin  May 24, 2016 • 6:15:01am
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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 6:15:12am

re: #89 Alyosha

One of our right-wing gammy wankers caught a whiff of that steaming pile of shit.

Upding for “gammy wankers”.

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 6:15:47am

re: #96 lawhawk

very troubling

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 6:16:14am

I don’t do Facebook. I’m a bit of a recluse and the semi-anonymity I enjoy here is as much social media as I desire.
That said, as I understand it, the uproar has less to do with FB censorship than outright endorsement (like promoted Tweets).
But, from what I’ve heard, there is no shortage of individual acts of heroic dumbshittery in the service of the conservative/reactionary cause on FB.
BFD.

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Timothy Watson  May 24, 2016 • 6:16:59am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

From my impression, the trending stories link to leading publications I.e the NYT or WaPo, I mean datum conservatives are some whiny children.

I really tempted to act like Leonard’s mother on The Big Bang Theory sometimes:

Buck Up Sissy Pants

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 6:17:21am

re: #85 Alyosha

2024- ‘You know, Cenk marched with Bernie.’

He also got arrested that one time at the Capitol.

/

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 6:18:41am

The friends you keep. Trump has made an extraordinary effort to pander to the white supremacists, racists, and bigot brigade, and they’re his strongest supporters - courtesy of his nonstop rhetoric on getting rid of the “Other”. Building walls, banning Muslim entry to the US, etc. All of that is something the bigot brigade seeks because it helps preserve their “supremacy” - they hate fact that the rights and protections they take for granted are being extended to everyone else.

We see it with attacks against the BLM movement. We see it with the GOP assault on women’s rights. We see it with the GOP attacks on LBGT rights and advances in the past few years.

This is a worldview of middle aged mostly white guys who are seeing their “privilege” receding as the nation becomes ever more like the Melting Pot; where cultures and social groups mix and are supposed to get the same kind of protections and rights under the law.

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Dave In Austin  May 24, 2016 • 6:19:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 6:20:03am

re: #102 Alyosha

I don’t do Facebook. I’m a bit of a recluse and the semi-anonymity I enjoy here is as much social media as I desire.
That said, as I understand it, the uproar has less to do with FB censorship than outright endorsement (like promoted Tweets).
But, from what I’ve heard, there is no shortage of individual acts of heroic dumbshittery in the service of the conservative/reactionary cause on FB.
BFD.

One is not required to bare one’s soul to FB, I have it scrubbed of most all personal information about me, I use it to keep in touch with people I have met in Real Life and wish to remain in Real Life contact with.

Given that, I have dropped people who go too overboard with politics on FB.

And the non-story is right along the lines of the ones that came out in 2012 about the IRS “targeting” conservative organizations. It confirms a bias and serves as a convenient excuse for the upcoming GOP losses in the general elections.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 6:20:56am

And yesterday we learned that the NFL sought to undermine the CTE/concussion research it agreed to fund.

This is yet another reason I can no longer watch the sport.

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Timothy Watson  May 24, 2016 • 6:24:15am

re: #108 lawhawk

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And yesterday we learned that the NFL sought to undermine the CTE/concussion research it agreed to fund.

This is yet another reason I can no longer watch the sport.

Put the Players Association is more concerned about whether Tom Brady will have to serve his penalty for cheating.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 6:25:03am

re: #102 Alyosha

I don’t do Facebook. I’m a bit of a recluse and the semi-anonymity I enjoy here is as much social media as I desire.
That said, as I understand it, the uproar has less to do with FB censorship than outright endorsement (like promoted Tweets).
But, from what I’ve heard, there is no shortage of individual acts of heroic dumbshittery in the service of the conservative/reactionary cause on FB.
BFD.

I’ve been on FB since close to its inception since I started college in 2005. This is just so silly. I don’t know anyone who uses the trending need to get news and I’m sorry cons but the NYT is a reputable and reliable source, you may not like it but a lot more people read it than the right wing screeds that pass for news.

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 6:25:30am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s not my soul I’m afraid of accidentally laying bare ;)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 6:27:14am

re: #111 Alyosha

It’s not my soul I’m afraid of accidentally laying bare ;)

I don’t post anything on there unless I am okay with the entire world knowing about it. If the world is that interested in what I had for lunch or who I ate it with, then they are welcome to take the time to find out…

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 6:28:19am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

I’ve been on FB since close to its inception since I started college in 2005. This is just so silly. I don’t know anyone who uses the trending need to get news and I’m sorry cons but the NYT is a reputable and source, you may not like it but a lot more people read it than the right wing screeds that pass for news.

I’m a NYTs loiterer.
I stick around for a few articles a month then they ask me to pay admission or leave.

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Barefoot Grin  May 24, 2016 • 6:28:43am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

One is not required to bare one’s soul to FB, I have it scrubbed of most all personal information about me, I use it to keep in touch with people I have met in Real Life and wish to remain in Real Life contact with.

Given that, I have dropped people who go too overboard with politics on FB.

And the non-story is right along the lines of the ones that came out in 2012 about the IRS “targeting” conservative organizations. It confirms a bias and serves as a convenient excuse for the upcoming GOP losses in the general elections.

This describes my FB life, too. And speaking of the old IRS story, I saw Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan talking to Chris Cuomo on CNN this morning still humping Benghazi (even though he’s on a committee that found no wrong-doing) and the IRS “scandal.” I guess it continues to give milk.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 6:36:46am

re: #85 Alyosha

2024- ‘You know, Cenk marched with Bernie.’

And they’ll be like: “Doctor, I don’t think his meds are working that well.”

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 6:45:48am

Maybe we should also be asking why Donald Trump’s top adviser, Paul Manafort, has ties to the Pakistani ISI. And ties to the Russian government.

Manafort’s work in the 1990s as a registered lobbyist for the Kashmiri American Council was only one part of a wide-ranging portfolio that, over several decades, included a gallery of controversial foreign clients ranging from Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos and Zaire’s brutal dictator Mobutu Sese Seko to an Angolan rebel leader accused by human rights groups of torture. His role as an adviser to Ukraine’s then prime minister, Viktor Yanukovych, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, prompted concerns within the Bush White House that he was undermining U.S. foreign policy. It was considered so politically toxic in 2008 that presidential candidate John McCain nixed plans for Manafort to manage the Republican National Convention — a move that caused a rupture between Manafort and his then business partner, Rick Davis, who at the time was McCain’s campaign manager.

Trump has a thing for people who are into strongmen. That’s how he sees himself. We see it in his mannerisms and statements. We see it in who he’s surrounded himself with.

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 6:46:28am

re: #115 Belafon

And they’ll be like: “Doctor, I don’t think his meds are working that well.”

We’ll know he’s on the path to wellness when he finally acknowledges the Armenian genocide.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 6:47:12am

re: #117 Alyosha

We’ll know he’s on the path to wellness when he finally acknowledges the Armenian genocide.

I keep on forgetting he’s a denier of that. Yikes.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 6:50:03am

re: #33 Anymouse

So what do you think? Should there be a civics test to vote (many Americans cannot pass the test to become a naturalised citizen), and if so, who writes and scores it?

The answer is no, because such tests are intentionally used to exclude voters, and voting is a right (just like, *ahem* wingnuts rant about gun owning)

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 6:55:09am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

What happens when President Sanders once again stops short of declaring the slaughter of the Armenians ‘genocide’ due to geopolitical constraints?
If Erdogan continues on his merry way autocratically co-opting his brand of nationalist Islamism, it might be the decade to loose that arrow.
One of the things I want to see, out of sheer curiosity, is how Saudi feels dealing with a female POTUS given their current tensions with President Obama.

Edited.

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Joe Bacon  May 24, 2016 • 6:56:41am

re: #108 lawhawk

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And yesterday we learned that the NFL sought to undermine the CTE/concussion research it agreed to fund.

This is yet another reason I can no longer watch the sport.

I went to Pitt with Tony Dorsett. Remember how he loved to crack jokes. Now breaks my heart seeing him struggle…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 6:57:59am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

The answer is no, because such tests are intentionally used to exclude voters, and voting is a right (just like, *ahem* wingnuts rant about gun owning)

It does mean that civics should be taught a lot more in school. I cannot recall any sort of instruction on how, for example, political parties conduct their primary selection process.

I have tried to explain to people that is is more of a marketing survey than an election, the parties put candidates out to get a feel for how the public will react to them.

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Skip Intro  May 24, 2016 • 6:59:44am

re: #15 teleskiguy

Sam Bee is HAWT!!!

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As they said on Veep the other night, she looks like a southern housewife who burned her husband’s dinner.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 7:00:40am

re: #33 Anymouse

I actually learned about the Toledo Strip war in 5th grade (growing up in Michigan—HAH!). We also went on a class field trip to a library in Windsor, Ontario to learn the Canadian version of the US invasion of Canada during the War of 1812.

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FormerDirtDart  May 24, 2016 • 7:00:41am

No one knows the economy better than me, no one, no one knows the economy better…Trust me…

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Romantic Heretic  May 24, 2016 • 7:02:07am

As you know we’ve lost a lot of great musicians recently. My reaction has been “Damn. that sucks.”

We’re losing another. This one has me in tears.

Shit.

The Tragically Hip - Bobcaygeon

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 7:18:38am

I’ve put a lot of thought into a test for participating in voting. And there is no way to truly prevent it from being corrupted unless it were administered by incorruptable robots who would have no interest in the outcome. I’ve also contemplated having you vote weighed by your score on the test. But it would also be hard to create a proper test. How much history and how much about current events? What do you do about different interpretations of those events?

Ultimately, if you’re going to have a Democracy, even a Democratic Republic, everyone has to be able to vote. Otherwise, you need to have a different system that everyone agrees on: Service guarantees citizenship!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 7:20:10am

Before voters are required to take any kind of civics tests, I think candidates for office should take (and pass) them first.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 7:20:34am

re: #126 FormerDirtDart

Trump’s Bad Prediction: High Gas Prices “Like You’ve Never Seen” If Obama’s Re-Elected

He knows that the President has little direct influence on gas prices, but he also knows that his supporters believe otherwise…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 7:22:53am

re: #128 Belafon

Ultimately, if you’re going to have a Democracy, even a Democratic Republic, everyone has to be able to vote. Otherwise, you need to have a different system that everyone agrees on: Service guarantees citizenship!

I do not support a Starship Troopers-style approach to restricting the franchise, but I like the notion of asking people to demonstrate that they are willing to put the the common good before their self interest before they are allowed to actively participate.

Cannot think of a practical, fair or effective way to put that into practice, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 7:23:56am

It’s like an evil Tommy Flannagan is running for president…

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 7:25:44am

No tests to vote. We’ve been down that road before. It leads to no good. None.

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Alyosha  May 24, 2016 • 7:30:28am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

Before voters are required to take any kind of civics tests, I think candidates for office should take (and pass) them first.

Yes. Even if it’s only a trial period of one full election cycle.

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Barefoot Grin  May 24, 2016 • 7:32:06am

re: #127 Romantic Heretic

As you know we’ve lost a lot of great musicians recently. My reaction has been “Damn. that sucks.”

We’re losing another. This one has me in tears.

Shit.

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Video

I knew the name The Tragically Hip but until now had never heard a song. That was beautiful. I’m so sorry for his family, the band, and all who love the band.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 7:36:28am

There’s still questions about how much was raised, and how much Trump specifically donated. It’s far less than the $6 million he claims was raised for veterans groups, and it’s not clear that he donated $1 million as he had also claimed.

There’s discrepancies as to how much has been disbursed to veterans groups too.

Go figure. Trump inflates his value, worth, donations when it suits him, and cuts the amount when he actually has to pay (taxes, donations, etc.).

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 7:40:08am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I do not support a Starship Troopers-style approach to restricting the franchise, but I like the notion of asking people to demonstrate that they are willing to put the the common good before their self interest before they are allowed to actively participate.

Cannot think of a practical, fair or effective way to put that into practice, though.

I probably wouldn’t vote for that one as a change, it was just the first one that popped into my head and I knew a bunch of people would recognize it.

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 7:43:01am

re: #136 lawhawk

There’s still questions about how much was raised, and how much Trump specifically donated. It’s far less than the $6 million he claims was raised for veterans groups, and it’s not clear that he donated $1 million as he had also claimed.

There’s discrepancies as to how much has been disbursed to veterans groups too.

Go figure. Trump inflates his value, worth, donations when it suits him, and cuts the amount when he actually has to pay (taxes, donations, etc.).

LEAVE DONALD TRUMP ALONE!!!!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 7:45:27am

re: #137 Belafon

I probably wouldn’t vote for that one as a change, it was just the first one that popped into my head and I knew a bunch of people would recognize it.

Starship Troopers is not a political manifesto (although some take it as such), it is a story of how civilization collapses in the aftermath of WWIII and order is restored by a handful of veterans and former POWs, who declare that in future only those who have performed military (or some other form of potentially life-threatening) service may actively participate in politics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 7:48:43am
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Testy Toad T  May 24, 2016 • 7:50:57am
“I was disturbed, but not surprised that Secretary Clinton has backed out of the debate,” Sanders said at the Santa Monica, California, rally, according to The Hill. “I think it’s a little bit insulting to the people of California — our largest state — that she is not prepared to have a discussion with me about how she will help the Californians address the major crises that we face.”

I’ll grant you climate change I suppose, but fuck off, Bernie. America is doing pretty okay. I’m sorry you feel like you have to Make It Great Again.

How did this guy ever manage to sound aspirational?

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 7:52:36am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Starship Troopers is not a political manifesto (although some take it as such), it is a story of how civilization collapses in the aftermath of WWIII and order is restored by a handful of veterans and former POWs, who declare that in future only those who have performed military (or some other form of potentially life-threatening) service may actively participate in politics.

My favorite part of the story is when the teacher asks why their system of government has been successful, and the answer is that it hasn’t failed yet. That’s it. No “our government is the greatest ever” idolatry. I like that piece of realism from a fiction book.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 7:54:57am

The majority of those who are uninsured live in a handful of states that refused to expand Medicaid. Those states are headed up by Texas and Florida, but are geographically tied to the South or Midwest.

You can thank the GOP for that. That’s millions of people who would otherwise have coverage but for GOP refusal to provide access to health insurance via the ACA.

So, when I say that the GOP doesn’t care about public health, this is exactly what I’m talking about.

It’s not just dragging feet on Zika funding, or robbing the Ebola research funding to cover Zika funding, or attacking birth control funding, or abortion access nationally. It’s the steadfast refusal to follow expert advice on medical issues and instead pandering to right wing know-nothings.

The consequences of these actions?

A body count.

With Zika likely to spread in the US as mosquito season starts, the risks to anyone seeking to have children goes up exponentially. The GOP delays in funding mosquito prevention programs and research have serious real-world consequences.

The body count.

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Tigger2  May 24, 2016 • 7:55:07am

These kids do an awesome cover on Metallica’s Enter Sandman.

Enter Sandman - METALLICA Cover - The Warning

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 7:55:26am

re: #82 JDRhoades

The article you cite contains this quote:

And you know, he’s right. Clinton DOES have unusually high unfavorables. And there are a LOT of people tacitly saying that “well, I’m not crazy about Clinton, but she’s better than Trump.” I hear it every day. Hell, the major line her supporters are taking right now is, “well, if you don’t support Hillary, you get Trump.”

I have been a Sanders supporter from the beginning, but I’ve defended Clinton against some of the stupider attacks on her, like the claim she ordered the military to stand down in Benghazi and the “damn e-mails”. I’ve actually been doing that for years. You can look it up.

I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I’ll be voting for my second choice in the general election, although some of her supporters don’t make that easy.

But if people claim things about what Sanders said that simply are not true, I’m going to push back against them as well.

If this be “Bernfuckery,” then let us make the most of it.

Sometimes we hear what we want to hear and we take what we hear the way we want to take it.

Take for example you saying the Clinton supporters don’t make it easy for you to vote for your second choice. Is it the Clinton supporters or the fact that you are already saying you are resigned to having to vote for her?

You are making excuses because you are not getting what you want. That shows by you saying “Hell, the major line her supporters are taking right now is, ‘well, if you don’t support Hillary, you get Trump.’ “

Why is that a major line when it is simply the truth? And is it major because you make it so?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 7:56:19am

re: #142 Belafon

My favorite part of the story is when the teacher asks why their system of government has been successful, and the answer is that it hasn’t failed yet. That’s it. No “our government is the greatest ever” idolatry. I like that piece of realism from a fiction book.

…and he points out that it grew out of a specific, catastrophic situation (the collapse of public order in the aftermath of a debilitating world war), not as the result of some ideology or policy.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 7:58:03am

No Erick, it means the sore losers don’t get a do-over.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 7:58:09am

re: #143 lawhawk

With Zika likely to spread in the US as mosquito season starts, the risks to anyone seeking to have children goes up exponentially. The GOP delays in funding mosquito prevention programs and research have serious real-world consequences.

Zika policy is going to be a disaster, because arguments for the medical justification for contraception will be too much for the fundamentalists’ tender ears to listen to.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 8:00:06am

re: #127 Romantic Heretic

Me too. The Hip are my favourite band. I’ve seen them live more than any other. As grace would have it, I am going back to Canada for my brothers wedding this summer.

Maybe I can get lucky and catch them on that final tour.

So many musicians. Just…fuck 2016.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 8:03:02am

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

No Erick, it means the sore losers don’t get a do-over.

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If Erick wants to have a personal display to the CSA in his frontyard, that’s his choice ot be a pathetic asshole but governments should by no means be maintaining memorials and statues for treason. Seriously, I just do not get these people. The CSA was a “country” that declared war against the United States of America. They killed more Americans than ISIS and yes even the Nazis did due to their selfish desire to maintain slavery. They don’t deserve to be memorized with my taxdollars.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 24, 2016 • 8:03:45am

good morning fellow lizards. Counting down the hours until I head back to NY to visit the fam and the old homestead for the last time (well the last time visiting the homestead anyway).

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 8:03:49am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 8:03:55am

I wonder how Erick would feel if there were proposed statues and memorials to violent leftist groups that sought to overturn the US government. I’m sure he’d be just peachy with that. //

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BlueSpotinAL  May 24, 2016 • 8:04:00am

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

No Erick, it means the sore losers don’t get a do-over.

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Lidane  May 24, 2016 • 8:04:21am

“There are certain tragic dimensions which we all lament,” Mr. Starr said in a panel discussion on the presidency at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia.

“That having been said, the idea of this redemptive process afterwards, we have certainly seen that powerfully” in Mr. Clinton’s post-presidency, he continued, adding, “President Carter set a very high standard, which President Clinton clearly continues to follow.”

He called Mr. Clinton “the most gifted politician of the baby boomer generation.”

“His genuine empathy for human beings is absolutely clear,” Mr. Starr said. “It is powerful, it is palpable and the folks of Arkansas really understood that about him — that he genuinely cared. The ‘I feel your pain’ is absolutely genuine.”

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 8:04:26am

re: #114 Barefoot Grin

This describes my FB life, too. And speaking of the old IRS story, I saw Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan talking to Chris Cuomo on CNN this morning still humping Benghazi (even though he’s on a committee that found no wrong-doing) and the IRS “scandal.” I guess it continues to give milk.

Same milk coming from all the Clinton baggage that makes her have high unfavorables!

I swear people just go about life based on how many times something is repeated. I guess finding out for yourself and making a decision based on what you find and how it affects you doesn’t work for them. They need the stamp of someone else’s approval.

It is no wonder why people are miserable and unfulfilled…they’ve been forced to live life based on what they’ve heard.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 8:04:57am

re: #152 lawhawk

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As a Southerner, granted a Southerner with Northern roots, I will never get why the CSA is romanticized so much. It’s beyond stupid to me.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 8:06:56am

I just don’t know how you can raise a CSA flag and at the same time not only claim to love the United States of America but also question the patriotism of others. The CSA attacked the US. It started the war. The Civil War killed more Americans than any other war. Honestly, we wouldn’t have this stupid Lost Cause shit if Davis and Lee and the other CSA head honchos had spent lengthy time in jail and they should have.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 8:11:12am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 8:12:02am

re: #159 The Vicious Babushka

There’s the Hitler scowl again!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 8:12:10am

He lies and calls the media “dishonest” for not reporting his lies as facts.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 8:12:11am
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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 8:12:56am

re: #162 lawhawk

Duh. Monarchies normally don’t allow voting for the leader.

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makeitstop  May 24, 2016 • 8:12:58am

re: #159 The Vicious Babushka

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What an asshole.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 8:13:22am

re: #155 Lidane

I lost a few teeth from my jaw hitting the floor so hard.

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 8:13:58am

re: #133 lawhawk

No tests to vote. We’ve been down that road before. It leads to no good. None.

Maybe a test to see if someone wants to make everyone take a test.

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Testy Toad T  May 24, 2016 • 8:14:26am

re: #162 lawhawk

That’s why the person who got more votes is the winner, and you, who lost, are a loser.

Go away, whiny loser.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 8:14:43am

re: #162 lawhawk

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This just in, Bernie, you trail Clinton in VOTES so you’re right, it’s not a monarchy, that’s why you’re not being nominated.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 8:15:00am

Okay, I am convinced Bernie is getting talking points from Rush Limbaugh now.

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retired cynic  May 24, 2016 • 8:15:34am

Wonderful show on NPR On Point with Gloria Steinem on violence against women and how it indicates a society that is aggressive and unstable and warlike. Really making me make new links in my mind. This is about her show ‘Woman’.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 8:16:39am
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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 8:16:42am

re: #138 Sir John Barron

LEAVE DONALD TRUMP ALONE!!!!!!!!

I will just as soon as he is gone from consideration as a President. How nice it would be to not even have to acknowledge his existence at all…just like it was prior to June of last year.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 8:18:18am

You’d think that after the DNC allowed him to pick five people including that fanatic West to the platform committee that Bernie would be happy but nope he’s showing why socialists get a bad name in this country and being an all around whiny asshole.

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Teukka  May 24, 2016 • 8:18:46am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s like an evil Tommy Flannagan is running for president…

When I say that people with the power to make decisions know full well that climate change is real and what its effects will be but still pander denial, they don’t believe me.
And I’ve said that for some time now…
What is it going to take for people to wake up and smell the coffee?
*SMFH*

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 8:20:27am

re: #159 The Vicious Babushka

Hear that Vets? You should be grateful for the non existent money I gave you, because I didn’t have to do it.

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 8:22:13am

re: #144 Tigger2

These kids do an awesome cover on Metallica’s Enter Sandman.

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They are pretty good. The drummer and bass player are very good for their ages. Give them a couple years and we may be hearing from them on a national level.

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 8:22:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 8:23:35am

So I haven’t seen much news lately…are we completely obstructed as far as the SCOTUS vacancy goes?

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 8:25:20am

re: #177 Jenner7

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Damn it Oliver, you had me!

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Snarknado!  May 24, 2016 • 8:26:26am

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

So I haven’t seen much news lately…are we completely obstructed as far as the SCOTUS vacancy goes?

Unfortunately, yes… 15 Republicans have met with the nominee, but there’s no sign that any hearings will be held (the Repubs are still saying that the next President should do the nominating).

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Teukka  May 24, 2016 • 8:26:44am
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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2016 • 8:27:08am

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

So I haven’t seen much news lately…are we completely obstructed as far as the SCOTUS vacancy goes?

Heard rumors that there were some senate Republicans willing to budge but it’s up to McConnell in the end and I see no sign of it. It really is pathetic. I mean if we get a moer liberal judge because of it, okay but that’s not fair to Judge Garland who hasn’t even gotten so much as a hearing due to the GOP’s petty bullshit.

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No Depression  May 24, 2016 • 8:37:42am

re: #162 lawhawk

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Bernie has to be the whiniest motherfucker to ever run for President.

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Le Lapin Tueur  May 24, 2016 • 8:41:50am

re: #183 No Depression

More so than tRump?

That’s a hard one…

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 8:42:32am

re: #183 No Depression

Still think Trump tops him. Trump complains about even the slightest bit of criticism, let alone quoting his own statements when it shows him in a bad light.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 8:43:37am
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No Depression  May 24, 2016 • 8:45:10am

re: #185 lawhawk

Still think Trump tops him. Trump complains about even the slightest bit of criticism, let alone quoting his own statements when it shows him in a bad light.

Yeah, you’re right. I forgot about Trump for just a moment when I typed that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 8:47:02am

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

Well he got his wish but did he make much money from the housing bust?

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 8:48:00am

re: #183 No Depression

Bernie has to be the whiniest motherfucker to ever run for President.

He sure is getting a run for that honor from TRUMP®!

I guess we are seeing The Time of the Whine™.

Representative government. We do have a whiny populace.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 8:48:36am

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

Well he got his wish but did he make much money from the housing bust?

He says he did, but then again, what comes out of the Trumphole™ is subject to scrutiny…

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Ming5000  May 24, 2016 • 8:50:01am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Trumphole

Language!! ~Trumphole… yuck

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b_sharp  May 24, 2016 • 8:52:19am

re: #135 Barefoot Grin

I knew the name The Tragically Hip but until now had never heard a song. That was beautiful. I’m so sorry for his family, the band, and all who love the band.

Gord is an amazing lyricist. The Hip have been one of my favs for decades.

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Timothy Watson  May 24, 2016 • 8:52:52am

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

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Wait, wasn’t he launching Trump Mortgage around the same time?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 8:55:04am

re: #193 Timothy Watson

Wait, wasn’t he launching Trump Mortgage around the same time?

Yes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 8:55:19am

Another of my favourite Hip songs is Long Time Running. It’s got a great bluesy feel going on…

The Tragically Hip - Long Time Running

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 24, 2016 • 8:59:37am

Looks like Russia lost some attack helicopters they are using in Syria. I honestly can’t say I’m upset about this.

bbc.com

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FormerDirtDart  May 24, 2016 • 9:02:04am

What could possibly go wrong?
They probably should have included a truck or two in their scale model testing…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 9:03:38am

re: #197 FormerDirtDart

What could possibly go wrong?
They probably should have included a truck or two in their scale model testing…

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Don’t forget the people who would freak out and swerve around under that thing. Also seems like it would be kind of a bitch to get around tight turns.

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darthstar  May 24, 2016 • 9:03:51am

Mornin’ everyone…it’s looo-oooooo-oooooove!

Image: tumblr_o3jng52dEV1qmob6ro1_500.gif

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 9:04:50am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, I see its on rails. That might make it easier to deal with the turns. I still stand by my point on the unpredictability of motorists though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 9:06:59am

Roger Stone: Trump Paid Kathleen Willey So She Could Trash Clintons

The media is highlighting a new web video from Donald Trump’s presidential campaign that features former White House aide Kathleen Willey accusing Bill Clinton of sexually assaulting her in the 1990s. In video obtained by Media Matters — published here for the first time — close Trump ally Roger Stone says Trump himself gave money to Willey so she would be able to attack the Clintons during Hillary Clinton’s current presidential run. The Office of the Independent Counsel reviewed Willey’s allegations but declined to press charges after determining that Willey repeatedly shifted her story, lied to the FBI, and urged a friend to falsely support her story. She subsequently suggested that the Clintons had murdered her husband in the same way they supposedly murdered former White House aide Vince Foster.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 9:07:41am

If Baby Whiplash and Milo Yeahimadumbass are boyfriends, why can’t Captain America have a boyfriend?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 9:08:51am

I am just going to go on record as saying with the right casting a female James Bond could be awesome.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 9:09:41am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

If Baby Whiplash and Milo Yeahimadumbass are boyfriends, why can’t Captain America have a boyfriend?

Beyond the “Captain America is a fictional character” issues, it’s pretty much been determined that he’s heterosexual but also married to his job.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 9:09:50am

re: #203 Eclectic Cyborg

I am just going to go on record as saying with the right casting a female James Bond could be awesome.

It was already awesome when they cast a female M.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 9:11:05am

re: #204 Belafon

Beyond the “Captain America is a fictional character” issues, it’s pretty much been determined that he’s heterosexual but also married to his job.

Unless we’re talking about the newer, non-Steve Rogers Captain America, comics. At that point, whatever.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 9:11:38am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

It was already awesome when they cast a female M.

Agreed. Judi Dench did a great job.

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darthstar  May 24, 2016 • 9:12:23am

And people like Simon Malloy don’t help.

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Teukka  May 24, 2016 • 9:12:47am

AAaaaaaand I’m just gonna leave this here, k?

Internet Comment Etiquette: “Conspiracy Theories”

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 9:13:11am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Roger Stone: Trump Paid Kathleen Willey So She Could Trash Clintons

Trump sure does surround himself with some slimy characters. Roger Stone prides himself on being a slime merchant.

Sure would be nice if the media did a little digging and reporting on those characters…might give a little insight into the type of people Trump would have in his government. A cabinet of slime.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 9:13:54am

re: #208 darthstar

Example of Clinton’s attack on Trump?

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BeachDem  May 24, 2016 • 9:14:02am

re: #141 Testy Toad T

I’ll grant you climate change I suppose, but fuck off, Bernie. America is doing pretty okay. I’m sorry you feel like you have to Make It Great Again.

How did this guy ever manage to sound aspirational?

I don’t get it either. I’ve seen him speak 3 different times, and I always found him shouty and depressing. He’s long on pointing out what’s wrong, but short on details about how to make it right.

And now he’s turned into nothing more than a crank. So I echo your fuck off, Bernie sentiments.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 9:15:23am

re: #211 Belafon

Example of Clinton’s attack on Trump?

She uses Trump’s own words to attack him. Unfair!

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Timothy Watson  May 24, 2016 • 9:16:52am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

If Baby Whiplash and Milo Yeahimadumbass are boyfriends, why can’t Captain America have a boyfriend?

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Christ Almighty, fans (gay and straight) have been doing homosexual shipping for decades. Has he heard any of the jokes about Kirk/Spock?

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 9:17:58am

re: #213 The Vicious Babushka

She uses Trump’s own words to attack him. Unfair!

I don’t expect Clinton’s attacks on him to become really hard until after Labor Day, when most of the electorate starts paying attention, but I’m curious what Darth is talking about.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 9:19:42am

re: #214 Timothy Watson

Christ Almighty, fans (gay and straight) have been doing homosexual shipping for decades. Has he heard any of the jokes about Kirk/Spock?

Do you ever watch “Steven Universe” on Cartoon Network? If not, you should. If so, Peridot’s shipping the characters from one episode of a TV show is a hilarious mocking of shipping.

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FormerDirtDart  May 24, 2016 • 9:19:42am

re: #200 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, I see its on rails. That might make it easier to deal with the turns. I still stand by my point on the unpredictability of motorists though.

And, not to mention the ever-present cyclists, of both the “bi” and “motor” variety

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 9:22:00am

re: #214 Timothy Watson

Christ Almighty, fans (gay and straight) have been doing homosexual shipping for decades. Has he heard any of the jokes about Kirk/Spock?

*cough* Batman and Robin *cough*

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 9:23:20am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 9:25:33am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

This is why I try to avoid flying as much as possible these days.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 9:28:16am

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

This is why I try to avoid flying as much as possible these days.

Right now we are experiencing the heaviest travel days of the year, not the weeks of Thanksgiving & Christmas which are actually light travel days.

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jeffreyw  May 24, 2016 • 9:28:55am

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Mmm… getting on towards lunch time here.

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Want half?

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 9:29:09am

Flying in three weeks. Ugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 9:30:08am

oh, the irony…

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 9:33:31am

re: #211 Belafon

Example of Clinton’s attack on Trump?

re: #213 The Vicious Babushka

She uses Trump’s own words to attack him. Unfair!

I think Darth is not liking the personal stuff and would much sooner it be policy/strategy related, etc.

Problem is most of what the attacks against Hillary have been is personal and is packed in all that baggage.

Bernie has been free of it for the most part because the GOP has not needed to attack him. If they ever did, it too would get personal. It is what they do.

All the negativity just builds and builds to where that becomes the unfavorables and people accept it as such and use it to turn down consideration of Clinton.

It all feeds on itself unquestioned and it wears people down. It does exactly what it is intended to do.

It is one reason Bernie is liked. His being an independent and from a small state out of the major party warfare and mud slinging.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2016 • 9:33:48am
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Joe Bacon  May 24, 2016 • 9:33:53am

re: #222 jeffreyw

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Want half?

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 9:39:39am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, the irony…

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Wow. I had heard some of that Baylor allegations while in the car yesterday and listening to ESPN radio. I had no idea that Kenneth Starr was involved.

Is there anyone from the GOP side of the Clinton impeachment that hasn’t turned out to be a massive hypocrite?

I’ve also heard the Baylor mess tied into police and sheriffs being involved in the cover up.

Texas and football…Texas and politics. What a state of priorities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 9:40:56am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Don’t forget the people who would freak out and swerve around under that thing. Also seems like it would be kind of a bitch to get around tight turns.

It would obviously only run on certain limited routes in crowded inner city areas where truck traffic is restricted

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 9:41:38am
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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 9:42:29am

For what Bernie? For two net delegates?!?!

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Dr. Matt  May 24, 2016 • 9:42:37am

re: #230 Jenner7

BREAKING: Bernie Sanders’ campaign says it has requested a recanvass in Kentucky presidential primary. pic.twitter.com
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) May 24, 2016

He’s officially an insufferable asshole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 9:42:49am

re: #213 The Vicious Babushka

She uses Trump’s own words to attack him. Unfair!

Even worse, she uses them in context!

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 9:43:28am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

If Baby Whiplash and Milo Yeahimadumbass are boyfriends, why can’t Captain America have a boyfriend?

Baby Whiplash upset about fictional characters. Yes, this is some career he has worked out for himself.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 9:44:03am

re: #222 jeffreyw

Want half?

No, I want it all…

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b.d.  May 24, 2016 • 9:47:25am

re: #230 Jenner7

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Hope the recount comes in Clinton’s favor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 9:47:43am

re: #230 Jenner7

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 24, 2016 • 9:47:46am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

ah shit, and I am flying out of there tomorrow. Thankfully it’s at 0 dark 30 so crowds shouldn’t be too bad and it’s domestic.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 9:48:28am

re: #225 ObserverArt

I would still like to see the attack from Clinton Darth is talking about.

All of Trumps attacks will be personal. That’s pretty much all they were during the Republican primaries. You don’t want to stoop to his level, but I would also expect Clinton to push back on accusations made against her. But, like I said, I don’t expect her to really attack him until September. Why waste it now?

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 9:49:10am

re: #238 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’m traveling early morning too, so it shouldn’t be that bad. Going home though, I leave at night. Hope we avoid the big lines.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 9:49:52am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

No, I want it all…

And you want it now right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 9:49:56am
American Eagle Flight 5931 at Los Angeles International Airport. The plane was quarantined after arriving from Houston.

rawstory.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 9:50:34am

re: #239 Belafon

I would still like to see the attack from Clinton Darth is talking about.

All of Trumps attacks will be personal. That’s pretty much all they were during the Republican primaries. You don’t want to stoop to his level, but I would also expect Clinton to push back on accusations made against her. But, like I said, I don’t expect her to really attack him until September. Why waste it now?

Trump has no legislative or policy making record to attack, his campaign is all about his personality, his associations and his promises. What else is there to discuss?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 9:52:12am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Well he does have a shitty as hell business record to attack.

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Great White Snark  May 24, 2016 • 9:52:14am

Gee why might CBS 2 do this investigation this year rather than a year or two ago?

CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year

Tidbits

“What it does is every single vote that’s cast by a dead voter actually cancels out a vote of a lawful voter cause if they voted for one candidate and you voted let’s say for another, your vote got canceled out,” she said.

As Goldstein reports, it was all supposed to change after the hanging chads incident in Florida in the 2000 presidential election. Congress passed the Help America Vote Act in 2002, which mandated sweeping reforms, including a statewide voter registration system that would eliminate ineligible voters.

But California is the only state that’s still not compliant with the act. Secretary of State Alex Padilla hopes to have it compliant later this year.

Hundreds of votes. Out of a voter base built on 25 or 30 million in population?

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 9:53:01am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Trump has no legislative or policy making record to attack, his campaign is all about his personality, his associations and his promises. What else is there to discuss?

I suspect her real attacks will come in two parts: his actual business dealings, including his bankruptcies and his ties to various groups; and his statements and what kind of president that would make him. I also expect his campaign manager’s associations with foreign governments to become a campaign issue.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 9:53:19am

re: #244 Eclectic Cyborg

Well he does have a shitty as hell business record to attack.

Which is personal…

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darthstar  May 24, 2016 • 9:53:53am

re: #211 Belafon

Example of Clinton’s attack on Trump?

Oh, for fuck’s sake, really? She’s dropping to his level on a daily basis. “Dangerous Donald” , “How could anybody lose money running a casino?”

How about a campaign based on ideas? Beating the crap out of Trump is easy, great for applause lines, and exactly what he wants.

This race shouldn’t even be close. She should be dismissive of Trump if she addresses him at all. When the media ask her about him she should challenge them and say, “How can you take his ideas seriously?” and leave it at that. Minimize him.

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 9:54:36am

re: #248 darthstar

Are you fucking serious?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 9:54:39am

re: #245 Great White Snark

“What it does is every single vote that’s cast by a dead voter actually cancels out a vote of a lawful voter cause if they voted for one candidate and you voted let’s say for another, your vote got canceled out,” she said.

that canceling out vote thing also happens with live voters.
The woman makes a very strange argument.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 9:55:17am

re: #248 darthstar

This race shouldn’t even be close. She should be dismissive of Trump if she addresses him at all. When the media ask her about him she should challenge them and say, “How can you take his ideas seriously?” and leave it at that. Minimize him.

Or say “Let’s discuss his record of public service….end of discussion.”

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BeachDem  May 24, 2016 • 9:55:20am

re: #240 Jenner7

I’m traveling early morning too, so it shouldn’t be that bad. Going home though, I leave at night. Hope we avoid the big lines.

Flew out of LaGuardia yesterday, midday. It was five minutes from initial TSA check to scanner (I know, because I had the yellow card they pass along to gauge the length of the wait.) My co-workers who left NY last week were freaking out about having to wait hours in the security line. Got through with no problems.

I know every airport is different, but thought I’d provide some positive vibe for your travel!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 9:55:54am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

that canceling out vote thing also happens with live voters.
The woman makes a very strange argument.

It is a matter of RW dogma that all dead voters are Democrats…

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 9:56:40am

re: #252 BeachDem

Thank you!

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Bass Reeves  May 24, 2016 • 9:58:19am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He’s running as an outsider and a non-political entity. Why should not having a record of public service hurt him?

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 9:58:35am

re: #248 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake, really? She’s dropping to his level on a daily basis. “Dangerous Donald” , “How could anybody lose money running a casino?”

How about a campaign based on ideas? Beating the crap out of Trump is easy, great for applause lines, and exactly what he wants.

This race shouldn’t even be close. She should be dismissive of Trump if she addresses him at all. When the media ask her about him she should challenge them and say, “How can you take his ideas seriously?” and leave it at that. Minimize him.

It wouldn’t work. The news stations take him seriously because 1) he’s a celebrity and 2) he’s the Republican. He could behead his wife on 5th avenue and the press would just compare him to Henry VIII.

Ignoring an accusation is not seen as blowing it off, it’s seen as you not wanting to talk about it.

And I think his inability to make a profit at a casino is a very legitimate issue if he’s going to run for president because it’s his business record that he’s running on.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 9:58:35am

re: #232 Dr. Matt

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BeachDem  May 24, 2016 • 10:00:03am

re: #245 Great White Snark

Gee why might CBS 2 do this investigation this year rather than a year or two ago?

CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year

Tidbits

Hundreds of votes. Out of a voter base built on 25 or 30 million in population?

My rep here in south by dog carolina was all up in arms about ZOMBIE VOTERS11TY awhile back. Turned out to be the nothingburger we all knew it would.

“We must have certainty in South Carolina that zombies aren’t voting.”

southernstudies.org

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 10:00:26am

Instagram

Is Hillary really protecting women?

Yeah, she’s really stooping to Donald’s level.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 10:01:47am

re: #259 Jenner7

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Yeah, she’s really stooping to Donald’s level.

Yeah, I really don’t want someone as president who is hoping the country will fail. And hoping to profit off of that failure is even worse.

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 10:02:06am

Bernie supporters believing Donald’s hype.

Man.

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gwangung  May 24, 2016 • 10:02:08am

re: #248 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake, really? She’s dropping to his level on a daily basis. “Dangerous Donald” , “How could anybody lose money running a casino?”

How about a campaign based on ideas? Beating the crap out of Trump is easy, great for applause lines, and exactly what he wants.

This race shouldn’t even be close. She should be dismissive of Trump if she addresses him at all. When the media ask her about him she should challenge them and say, “How can you take his ideas seriously?” and leave it at that. Minimize him.

Um, are you serious?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 10:05:03am

re: #255 Bass Reeves

He’s running as an outsider and a non-political entity. Why should not having a record of public service hurt him?

Ask President Obama about that one. I understand that people are fed up with politics as usual and with politicians, and bringing in an untainted outsider is an intriguing concept.

But he is a totally clueless outsider who has no idea of what separation of powers means or how legislative and political processes are at least meant to work.

That is why he can make promises and threats that he cannot possible follow up on, and that is grounds to seriously take him to task.

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Lidane  May 24, 2016 • 10:05:29am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

Baylor firing Ken Starr is like using a Band-Aid on a gaping head wound. It’s meaningless. He’s basically falling on his sword so the football program won’t suffer.

Both Baylor’s head coach and athletic director have been caught in the crossfire of the rape scandal on campus, but Starr is the one being let go? Pffft. Just another example of the university caring more about the money from football than the culture on the campus.

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Great White Snark  May 24, 2016 • 10:07:15am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well with live voters that’s an appropriate part of the system. With the dead not so much. This hardly matters until we get a result recount close or worse a result so close as to fall well within the error margin in the system. Makes it a coin flip. But hundreds statewide? That almost impossibly close.

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 10:08:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 10:09:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 10:11:49am
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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 10:13:53am

re: #239 Belafon

I would still like to see the attack from Clinton Darth is talking about.

All of Trumps attacks will be personal. That’s pretty much all they were during the Republican primaries. You don’t want to stoop to his level, but I would also expect Clinton to push back on accusations made against her. But, like I said, I don’t expect her to really attack him until September. Why waste it now?

I think it falls somewhere on the “she brings this all on herself” type of thinking. It is part of the ill-defined baggage.

I really do believe some of the people that say this stuff about Clinton have no freaking idea why they feel the way they do other than they are sick of hearing it and/or they believe it without any support as to why.

Clinton=bad. Don’t ask why. It just is because!

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blueraven  May 24, 2016 • 10:15:10am

re: #248 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake, really? She’s dropping to his level on a daily basis. “Dangerous Donald” , “How could anybody lose money running a casino?”

How about a campaign based on ideas? Beating the crap out of Trump is easy, great for applause lines, and exactly what he wants.

This race shouldn’t even be close. She should be dismissive of Trump if she addresses him at all. When the media ask her about him she should challenge them and say, “How can you take his ideas seriously?” and leave it at that. Minimize him.

LOL…that worked out great for Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, et al.
Yes, Hillary should just relax and enjoy!

/

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 10:16:48am

re: #269 ObserverArt

I think it falls somewhere on the “she brings this all on herself” type of thinking. It is part of the ill-defined baggage.

I really do believe some of the people that say this stuff about Clinton have no freaking idea why they feel the way they do other than they are sick of hearing it and/or they believe it without any support as to why.

Clinton=bad. Don’t ask why. It just is because!

We had 8 years of George Bush history as governor, his tales of a drunken youth, we knew about his father, and yet Bush didn’t get this when he ran for president. There are times when this “baggage” really does seem to cross into the “there’s something different about Hillary” territory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 10:17:05am

it’s official now:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 10:17:14am

re: #270 blueraven

LOL…that worked out great for Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, et al.
Yes, Hillary should just relax and enjoy!

/

It worked well in a GOP primary. Hillary is appealing to people who do not respond to that level of viciousness, bigotry and ignorance.

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BeachDem  May 24, 2016 • 10:17:18am

re: #254 Jenner7

Thank you!

One more travel tip—too late for your “outbound” but could be of value later on. Fedex will now ship suitcases. I shipped my 42 pound case home fedex ground for less than it would have cost to check it. No hauling it through the airport at either end—delivered to my home just now. Easy peasy!

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makeitstop  May 24, 2016 • 10:19:02am

re: #248 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake, really? She’s dropping to his level on a daily basis. “Dangerous Donald” , “How could anybody lose money running a casino?”

How about a campaign based on ideas? Beating the crap out of Trump is easy, great for applause lines, and exactly what he wants.

This race shouldn’t even be close. She should be dismissive of Trump if she addresses him at all. When the media ask her about him she should challenge them and say, “How can you take his ideas seriously?” and leave it at that. Minimize him.

Expecting the media to do its job?

Yeah, that ain’t gonna work.

Edit: Stupid apostrophe.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 10:19:29am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It worked well in a GOP primary. Hillary is appealing to people who do not respond to that level of viciousness, bigotry and ignorance.

And you can’t just make up accusations against Trump, but the lesson from Swiftboating is that accusations against you won’t go away just because they’re false, because most of the electorate isn’t going to do research.

Edit: and neither will the media.

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Testy Toad T  May 24, 2016 • 10:21:12am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder what conspiracy Senator Sanders blames when he accidentally shrinks his silk boxers in the dryer on hot-cycle.

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 10:21:53am

re: #248 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake, really? She’s dropping to his level on a daily basis. “Dangerous Donald” , “How could anybody lose money running a casino?”

How about a campaign based on ideas? Beating the crap out of Trump is easy, great for applause lines, and exactly what he wants.

This race shouldn’t even be close. She should be dismissive of Trump if she addresses him at all. When the media ask her about him she should challenge them and say, “How can you take his ideas seriously?” and leave it at that. Minimize him.

Remind me to never hire you as a campaign manager.

And I guess you are forgetting some of the stuff Bernie has said and done. Or excusing it.

Going on what you are saying the race between Clinton and Sanders shouldn’t have been that close.

Yet, what are all the Sanders supporters saying about Clinton? The very same stuff you are now criticizing.

You are an enigma.

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blueraven  May 24, 2016 • 10:22:22am

Wonder how much that recount will cost the people of Kentucky?

It will make no difference in the end. Bernie doesn’t give a shit.
I could understand it, if there was even a small chance of changing the outcome.

I hope Hillary ends up with an even bigger margin.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 24, 2016 • 10:22:28am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet you’re real glad Kentucky has the money to waste on this, which is clearly going to be the difference maker. Right?

//this should be unnecessary

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 10:23:33am

re: #279 blueraven

Wonder how much that recount will cost the people of Kentucky?

It will make no difference in the end. Bernie doesn’t give a shit.
I could understand it, if there was even a small chance of changing the outcome.

I hope Hillary ends up with an even bigger margin.

I’m not entirely sure, you’ll have to ask someone from KY, but I think someone said the other day the campaign would have to pay for it.

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Lidane  May 24, 2016 • 10:23:43am

re: #270 blueraven

LOL…that worked out great for Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, et al.
Yes, Hillary should just relax and enjoy!

/

Seriously. SEVENTEEN different campaigns failed to do the most basic oppo research on Trump. They never attacked him directly. They treated him like a bored celebrity that would drop out before the primaries and they never gave him any pushback. They let him slide for months basically unopposed.

It wasn’t until after the votes started that the rest of the GOP stood up and took notice. The Dems can’t afford to be that way. We’ll end up with President Trump if they do.

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allegro  May 24, 2016 • 10:24:15am

We saw pretty clearly the results of ‘rise above it’ campaign style in 2004. Kerry ignored the swift boat bullshit in service to this same argument. Hillary will not be making this same mistake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 10:24:55am

re: #281 Belafon

I’m not entirely sure, you’ll have to ask someone from KY, but I think someone said the other day the campaign would have to pay for it.

Campaign would have to pay for a recount, but doesn’t pay for a recanvass.

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No Depression  May 24, 2016 • 10:25:28am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s official now:

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I think Sanders knows fully well this won’t change anything. He’s just doing this to undermine the legitimacy of the results so his supporters will cry foul. He wants to spite everyone who doesn’t support him, and would probably be delighted if Trump beat Clinton in the general. If he can’t have the White House, then neither can Clinton.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 10:26:39am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

Campaign would have to pay for a recount, but doesn’t pay for a recanvass.

OK. Thanks.

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blueraven  May 24, 2016 • 10:27:37am

re: #281 Belafon

I’m not entirely sure, you’ll have to ask someone from KY, but I think someone said the other day the campaign would have to pay for it.

My understanding is if less than 1% difference, it is automatic if candidate requests, and will be on state’s dime. But I am not entirely sure either. Probably different for each state.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 10:28:36am

re: #285 No Depression

I think Sanders knows fully well this won’t change anything. He’s just doing this to undermine the legitimacy of the results so his supporters will cry foul. He wants to spite everyone who doesn’t support him, and would probably be delighted if Trump beat Clinton in the general. If he can’t have the White House, then neither can Clinton.

Hey Darth, when your candidate is taking an action that EVERYONE knows isn’t going to change the dynamic of the race one bit, this is what he makes his candidacy look like.

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 10:30:03am

re: #285 No Depression

I think Sanders knows fully well this won’t change anything. He’s just doing this to undermine the legitimacy of the results so his supporters will cry foul. He wants to spite everyone who doesn’t support him, and would probably be delighted if Trump beat Clinton in the general. If he can’t have the White House, then neither can Clinton.

Bernie is doing exactly what his supporters do not like. Except it is Bernie doing it.

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Tigger2  May 24, 2016 • 10:32:06am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s official now:

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goddamnedfrank  May 24, 2016 • 10:32:17am

re: #248 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake, really? She’s dropping to his level on a daily basis. “Dangerous Donald” , “How could anybody lose money running a casino?”

How about a campaign based on ideas? Beating the crap out of Trump is easy, great for applause lines, and exactly what he wants.

This race shouldn’t even be close. She should be dismissive of Trump if she addresses him at all. When the media ask her about him she should challenge them and say, “How can you take his ideas seriously?” and leave it at that. Minimize him.

If this wasn’t ridiculous advice before, and it was, it became so when your preferred candidate, who let’s be honest has no path to victory, decided to bring Clinton down with him. Now that he’s told his legions of cult follower fanatics that she’s “unqualified,” that she’s at best “the lesser of two evils,” that she’s stealing the election form him in a “rigged system,” she absolutely has no choice but to engage Trump. Now that Bernie is putting destructive tools like Zogby and West on the platform committed, who’ve called Trump an authentic human being in contrast to her she definitely has to combat that backstabbing from erstwhile liberal allies.

The thing is though at the end of the day you’re doing fine, which makes your nihilistic who-gives-a-shit callous disregard for the risks being incurred on behalf of other people especially hard to accept without pushback. The fact that you don’t take Trump seriously and don’t think others should speaks volumes about your comfortable position in life and how easy it is for you to remain calm while others are explicitly threatened with ethnic and religious cleansing. Not taking his fascism seriously is how the Republicans ended up with him as their nominee.

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 10:32:25am

Being charitable, this might just be contributing to the narrative at the end where he says “We fought for every win we could, but Clinton ran an amazing campaign and she will be an amazing president.” We’ll see. Would Darth buy it?

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Lidane  May 24, 2016 • 10:32:36am

Beyond parody:

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Teukka  May 24, 2016 • 10:33:33am

re: #293 Lidane

Beyond parody:

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File under: “We’re not making this shit up, really…”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 10:36:01am

Pretty sure the Sanders campaign is hoping a recanvass will reveal shenanigans in Pike County (brief card reader malfunction on election night) and, to a lesser extent, Fayette County (voting machine problems).

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Timothy Watson  May 24, 2016 • 10:36:04am

re: #293 Lidane

Beyond parody:

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Christ Almighty, these people think it’s Death Wish out there, when we have the lowest violent crime rates in decades.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 10:37:01am

re: #293 Lidane

Beyond parody:

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This is why the assumption Hillary is a lock to win the Presidency is a bad one.

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Testy Toad T  May 24, 2016 • 10:37:35am

re: #296 Timothy Watson

Christ Almighty, these people think it’s Death Wish out there, when we have the lowest violent crime rates in decades.

It is literally an article of faith among GOP voters and dead-ender Sanders supporters that the country has gone to hell in a handbasket. They did use reasoning to come to this conclusion, so good luck using reasoning to get them to come to a different one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 10:37:43am

re: #296 Timothy Watson

Christ Almighty, these people think it’s Death Wish out there, when we have the lowest violent crime rates in decades.

The REAL rates are MUCH HIGHER!! Why do you listen to the government?

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wrenchwench  May 24, 2016 • 10:38:35am

re: #293 Lidane

Beyond parody:

[NRA Video Puts the ‘Ayatollahs of Iran’ On Notice: ‘You Haven’t Met America’]

He hasn’t met the part of America he stole those shoulder patches from.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2016 • 10:39:08am

I bet a lot of the RWNJ pundits/bloggers/radio show guys secretly want Hillary to win so they can keep the rage machine rolling for the next 8 years.

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Timothy Watson  May 24, 2016 • 10:41:13am

re: #298 Testy Toad T

It is literally an article of faith among GOP voters and dead-ender Sanders supporters that the country has gone to hell in a handbasket. They did use reasoning to come to this conclusion, so good luck using reasoning to get them to come to a different one.

Say what you will about Reagan (and I can say a lot), but from what I’ve been told and read (I was born in 1987), didn’t he run as an optimistic candidate?

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 10:41:14am

re: #301 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet a lot of the RWNJ pundits and radio show guys secretly want Hillary to win so they can keep the rage machine rolling for the next 8 years.

They managed to survive GWB.

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Stanley Sea  May 24, 2016 • 10:44:56am

re: #274 BeachDem

One more travel tip—too late for your “outbound” but could be of value later on. Fedex will now ship suitcases. I shipped my 42 pound case home fedex ground for less than it would have cost to check it. No hauling it through the airport at either end—delivered to my home just now. Easy peasy!

And it’s just dirty laundry. Brilliant idea.

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goddamnedfrank  May 24, 2016 • 10:45:16am

Please, if Bernie wanted any chance of her accepting another debate he wouldn’t have set it up on Fox News. She owes him nothing, she’s won, but he’s going to continue doing whatever he can to damage her general election chances. This is just a toddler throwing a tantrum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 10:47:17am

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

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Please, if Bernie wanted any chance of her accepting another debate he wouldn’t have set it up on Fox News. She owes him nothing, she’s won, but he’s going to continue doing whatever he can to damage her general election chances. This is just a toddler throwing a tantrum.

And it’s not like Bernie would say anything we haven’t already heard from him many times already.

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 10:47:25am

Ahhh. Well then.

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Timothy Watson  May 24, 2016 • 10:47:36am

Is our esteemed host playing with the fonts and the CSS or is it just my browser acting weird?

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 10:47:45am

re: #293 Lidane

Beyond parody:

LOL

That should discourage the Ayatollas from coming over to take our oil…wait what?

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 10:48:33am

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

Please, if Bernie wanted any chance of her accepting another debate he wouldn’t have set it up on Fox News. She owes him nothing, she’s won, but he’s going to continue doing whatever he can to damage her general election chances. This is just a toddler throwing a tantrum.

there have been like 9 million debates already.

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 10:48:35am
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No Depression  May 24, 2016 • 10:50:09am

re: #311 Jenner7

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It’s the Circle of Derp! Ain’t it beautiful.

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Kragar  May 24, 2016 • 10:50:17am
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Joe Bacon  May 24, 2016 • 10:51:22am

re: #293 Lidane

Beyond parody:

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Why would they want to meet anyone with a severe case of penis envy?

A psychologist will tell you that it’s called “compensation”…
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goddamnedfrank  May 24, 2016 • 10:51:23am
“I was disturbed, but not surprised, that Secretary Clinton has backed out of the debate,” Sanders said at a rally in Santa Monica, Calif., ahead of the delegate-rich June 7 primary.

LOL Sanders just flat out lying again, you have to have accepted something before you can “back out of” it.

“I think it’s a little bit insulting to the people of California — our largest state — that she is not prepared to have a discussion with me about how she will help the Californians address the major crises that we face,” he continued.

Whatever you say jerkoff. The last three polls here have her up 10, 18 and 19 points.

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Skip Intro  May 24, 2016 • 10:53:35am

And Then the Lord Said, ‘Let There Be Light, You’re Gonna Love It’

There’s nothing funnier than the Evangelical preachers backing Trump.

The incredible momentum behind The Great Accommodation, the process by which “principled” conservatives prostrate themselves in abject fealty to a vulgar talking yam, already has produced some wonderful low comedy. Senator Huckleberry J. Butchmeup has been pretty damn funny, attempting to stay relevant in a party gone mad by tying his conscience in a bowline.

But nobody has been more of a laff riot than have been the political preachers who have conformed their holy mission so as to encompass the master chef of the Two Corinthians Pizzeria of Staten Island and Florida. Bloomberg News dropped by to talk to one of the head Pharisees.

At one recent meeting with Trump, evangelical leaders noted how he often flashes a signature hand gesture, with a thumb out and a finger point to the sky, as he enters and exits rallies. “You see athletes do it all the time and it’s their chance to point to the sky, to thank God for their success,” said Pastor Mark Burns, CEO of a Christian television network based in South Carolina. “Trump does this all of the time, too. He’s giving reverence to the man upstairs.”

Pro Tip: if your pastor refers to God as “The Man Upstairs,” he probably learned his theology at the Toby Keith College of Divinity. I’m surprised Pastor Burns’ sermons don’t come with an All U Can Eat catfish special.

esquire.com

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wrenchwench  May 24, 2016 • 10:54:05am

OMG! It’s like a self-flipping calendar from CL!

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BlueSpotinAL  May 24, 2016 • 10:54:08am
Abe Lincoln was not quite correct
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darthstar  May 24, 2016 • 10:55:01am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Or say “Let’s discuss his record of public service….end of discussion.”

I don’t know why everyone’s so sensitive about this. Yes, when Hillary calls him Dangerous Donald she’s dropping to his level and playing his game. She’s a former Secretary of State…did she talk like that to Bibi or Merkel? Of course she didn’t.

I know, campaigns make people say things they probably shouldn’t in retrospect, but Jesus Christ on a Triscuit, her campaign is letting the media drive her in a direction that keeps this race close. She’s better than that. Or should be.

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Joe Bacon  May 24, 2016 • 10:56:00am

re: #316 Skip Intro

And Then the Lord Said, ‘Let There Be Light, You’re Gonna Love It’

esquire.com

The real “God” that these Pulpit Pimps worship is Ayn Rand!

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Belafon  May 24, 2016 • 10:56:33am

re: #316 Skip Intro

And Then the Lord Said, ‘Let There Be Light, You’re Gonna Love It’

esquire.com

When Trump snags the bible out of Robert’s hands and says “That pledge is important, I’ll be sure to follow it,” they’ll smile, totally missing history.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 10:57:35am

re: #319 darthstar

LOL!

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Jenner7  May 24, 2016 • 10:58:18am

re: #319 darthstar

Yes, when Hillary calls him Dangerous Donald she’s dropping to his level and playing his game.

Yep. Because calling him dangerous is the same as him calling her a murderer or abuser of women.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 24, 2016 • 10:58:40am

re: #319 darthstar

Is that why Bernie called her unqualified, then? The media drove his campaign in a direction it shouldn’t have gone?

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Testy Toad T  May 24, 2016 • 10:58:56am

re: #319 darthstar

I know, campaigns make people say things they probably shouldn’t in retrospect, but Jesus Christ on a Triscuit, her campaign is letting the media drive her in a direction that keeps this race close. She’s better than that. Or should be.

You sound concerned.

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wrenchwench  May 24, 2016 • 10:58:59am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL!

Thanks. I couldn’t put my response into words. Turns out I didn’t need words.

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goddamnedfrank  May 24, 2016 • 11:00:32am

re: #319 darthstar

I don’t know why everyone’s so sensitive about this. Yes, when Hillary calls him Dangerous Donald she’s dropping to his level and playing his game. She’s a former Secretary of State…did she talk like that to Bibi or Merkel? Of course she didn’t.

I know, campaigns make people say things they probably shouldn’t in retrospect, but Jesus Christ on a Triscuit, her campaign is letting the media drive her in a direction that keeps this race close. She’s better than that. Or should be.

You really focused hard on the Dangerous Donald thing, something that hasn’t been said in like three weeks. The signal to noise ratio of your posts lately sucks. Her taking Donald on is not what’s made the race close, it’s Sanders reckless disregard for the health and basic safety of the minorities who rejected him that has tightened up the numbers. He’s the one who’s continued to feed the media the horserace narrative and spectacle that drives ratings. His campaign was wholly responsible for the near riot shit show in Nevada, and his campaign is continuing to destructively tear the Democratic Party apart precisely when it should be coming together.

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Dr. Matt  May 24, 2016 • 11:01:22am

re: #319 darthstar

I don’t know why everyone’s so sensitive about this. Yes, when Hillary calls him Dangerous Donald she’s dropping to his level and playing his game. She’s a former Secretary of State…did she talk like that to Bibi or Merkel? Of course she didn’t.

I know, campaigns make people say things they probably shouldn’t in retrospect, but Jesus Christ on a Triscuit, her campaign is letting the media drive her in a direction that keeps this race close. She’s better than that. Or should be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 11:02:06am

heh

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Franklin  May 24, 2016 • 11:03:25am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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DIVEST IN MOUSE EARS!!!

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lawhawk  May 24, 2016 • 11:03:50am

re: #319 darthstar

I don’t know why everyone’s so sensitive about this. Yes, when Hillary calls him Dangerous Donald she’s dropping to his level and playing his game. She’s a former Secretary of State…did she talk like that to Bibi or Merkel? Of course she didn’t.

I know, campaigns make people say things they probably shouldn’t in retrospect, but Jesus Christ on a Triscuit, her campaign is letting the media drive her in a direction that keeps this race close. She’s better than that. Or should be.

The media is driving the polling - fixating on the handful of polls 6 months out showing a narrow lead for Trump inside the MOE and also with crosstabs showing that they’ve pushed to get Trump a lead. They want a horse race since it sells. Trump gets tons of free media exposure - exceeding every other candidate who was in the race, including Hillary and Bernie - combined.

Six months out - heck - six weeks out - there were individual polls showing McCain or Romney ahead against Obama. How’d that work out for Presidents McCain and Romney. Oh wait. They didn’t. Because they were never that close. Outlier polls are just that - outliers. And six months out while one of the primaries is still in the balance while the other candidate is consolidating his position in the GOP isn’t going to last long. Hillary will regain the lead come July and through the summer.

Despite all that media exposure, Trump isn’t held to account for his vile positions that woudl have otherwise killed any other candidate (the misogyny, the hate, bigotry, etc.) None of his fellow GOPers attacked him on any of those issues while they were in the race because they needed his supporters if they wanted the nomination themselves.

Hillary doesn’t need those same voters, and she’s not going to sit back and take smear after smear from the likes of the Trump train.

If you don’t respond to these attacks, you’re labeled a pushover or worse.

But your argument to ignore them is essentially the same one that the other GOPers took, and look where that got them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 11:03:52am

good freaking grief…

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 11:04:45am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

Not a parody?

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Testy Toad T  May 24, 2016 • 11:05:09am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

Well why didn’t you just say so!

Your Policy Wonk of the Party of Big Ideas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 11:05:15am

re: #333 Sir John Barron

Not a parody?

blue checkmark….

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nines09  May 24, 2016 • 11:05:34am

re: #293 Lidane

I believe that is Charlie Daniels. Poor Charlie. Got high in the morning, drunk in the afternoon. Should not dive head first into the shallow end. Repeatedly.

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Timothy Watson  May 24, 2016 • 11:05:38am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

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Thankfully, DARPA has designed a smart weapon that tracks down and kills just the mosquitoes with Zika.

Tony Stark and Bruce Banner developed the prototype.

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 11:06:41am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

WHY WONT OBAMA DO SOMETHING??????

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nines09  May 24, 2016 • 11:06:49am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

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THAT’S WHY WE HAVE ALL THESE GUNS!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 11:07:42am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

Will our “retweeting” Speaker Ryan’s mosquito tweet be enough to kill the Zika mosquitos?

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Franklin  May 24, 2016 • 11:07:43am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

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Mosquitos don’t kill people, zika does. Or is it, Zika doesn’t kill people, Mosquito’s do.

Now I’m confused.

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 11:08:20am

re: #339 nines09

THAT’S WHY WE HAVE ALL THESE GUNS!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!

New NRA ad—the Zika mosquitos don’t know the real America.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 24, 2016 • 11:09:03am

re: #316 Skip Intro

And Then the Lord Said, ‘Let There Be Light, You’re Gonna Love It’

Pro Tip: if your pastor refers to God as “The Man Upstairs,” he probably learned his theology at the Toby Keith College of Divinity. I’m surprised Pastor Burns’ sermons don’t come with an All U Can Eat catfish special.

Toby Keith impressed me, My ex had a CD of his, White Trash With Money.

On the cover, he dedicates it to his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, while the album ends with a song called “Running Block”, which is about picking up women and having drunken sex with them in motel rooms…

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whitebeach  May 24, 2016 • 11:09:20am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

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A yuuuge wall is the answer. And deport the ones that are already here.

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 11:12:08am

re: #344 whitebeach

A yuuuge wall is the answer. And deport the ones that are already here.

only the ones here illegally.

//

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Franklin  May 24, 2016 • 11:12:08am

re: #331 lawhawk

The media is driving the polling - fixating on the handful of *NATIONAL* polls 6 months out showing a narrow lead for Trump inside the MOE and also with crosstabs showing that they’ve pushed to get Trump a lead. They want a horse race since it sells. …

Tiny nitpick. Can’t find the article I was reading before, but Sec. Clinton is still polling way ahead of Trump in state polls that matter. And that, is all that matters.

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Sir John Barron  May 24, 2016 • 11:12:41am

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Toby Keith impressed me, My ex had a CD of his, White Trash With Money.

On the cover, he dedicates it to his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, while the album ends with a song called “Running Block”, which is about picking up women and having drunken sex with them in motel rooms…

Yes a very consistent message.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 11:17:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 11:20:14am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 11:20:33am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it’s not like Bernie would say anything we haven’t already heard from him many times already.

He probably thinks the FOX moderators would be very hard on Clinton and make her look bad. You know those establishment liberal media types just softballed her.

He is being a complete ass about it all. He has shown me his true colors. He wants to make his own establishment…us versus them.

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BeachDem  May 24, 2016 • 11:25:08am

re: #319 darthstar

I don’t know why everyone’s so sensitive about this. Yes, when Hillary calls him Dangerous Donald she’s dropping to his level and playing his game. She’s a former Secretary of State…did she talk like that to Bibi or Merkel? Of course she didn’t.

I know, campaigns make people say things they probably shouldn’t in retrospect, but Jesus Christ on a Triscuit, her campaign is letting the media drive her in a direction that keeps this race close. She’s better than that. Or should be.

Bibi and Merkel, whatever one might think of them, are heads of state. Trump has no such pedigree. He is a bullshitting reality tv host. It is not dropping to any level to call him what he is.

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 11:25:51am

re: #307 Jenner7

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Ahhh. Well then.

Rachel Maddow reported last night he was down to 6 million left in his campaign piggy bank. Makes me wonder where his supporters started to no longer support him. Maybe they began to see his run as over a month back or so. If that is the case, is anyone sending him money now just feeding the ego and it would be a waste?

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2016 • 11:37:06am

re: #324 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is that why Bernie called her unqualified, then? The media drove his campaign in a direction it shouldn’t have gone?

Bernie Good.

Hillary Bad.

It is just that simple. This is why a Bernie supporter finds it so hard to have to listen to Hillary established types making it oh so difficult to have to vote for her over Trump. There just is no good in any of it without Bernie!

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FormerDirtDart  May 24, 2016 • 11:54:38am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

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darthstar  May 24, 2016 • 11:59:25am

re: #324 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is that why Bernie called her unqualified, then? The media drove his campaign in a direction it shouldn’t have gone?

Bernie has nothing to do with how Hillary engages with Donald.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 12:03:03pm
wut?
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 24, 2016 • 12:06:13pm

re: #355 darthstar

No, but he does have responsibility for what he says - and he did say that. What happened to his positive, issues-driven campaign?

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darthstar  May 24, 2016 • 12:11:53pm

re: #357 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No, but he does have responsibility for what he says - and he did say that. What happened to his positive, issues-driven campaign?

He’s lost the primary - yeah, he’s hanging on to the end. And he leveled some criticism at her. That’s not going to hurt her. She knows that (hell, she ignores him 99% of the time unless she’s asked about him). Joe Biden knows that and has said so. Nancy Pelosi knows it and has said as much. Ed Rendell said the same this morning in an interview, but followed with his “I’m a superdelegate and I want him to quit anyway” line. The media knows it too because they don’t even pay attention to him anymore except to say he’s still in the race.

But let’s not let anyone say she’s less than inevitable for November or the whole house of cards will come down.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 24, 2016 • 12:13:43pm

re: #358 darthstar

I’m reading an awful lot of excuses here and absolutely no answer to the question and yet you accuse most of us here of being overly sensitive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2016 • 12:31:10pm

Bernie is saying that Hillary is insulting the voters in California by “backing out of the debate”. (The part in quotes is a direct quote of his.)

You can’t “back out” of something you never agreed to participate in.

Bernie is grandstanding and lying. He doesn’t have enough money left, so he’s looking for any free publicity he can get at this point (including the stupid and completely useless recanvass in Kentucky).

Hillary is indeed ignoring all this nonsense. But suggesting that calling Trump “Dangerous Donald” is lowering herself to Trump’s level, and somehow diminishes her, is such a weak and bogus charge…I just can’t…

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darthstar  May 24, 2016 • 1:53:36pm

re: #359 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m reading an awful lot of excuses here and absolutely no answer to the question and yet you accuse most of us here of being overly sensitive.

It’s politics. People say mean things about each other. Christ, he ran the most soft-gloved campaign for months and kept eating away at her lead…it was surrogates who said the stupid shit - “Corporate whore” wasn’t Bernie, and he disavowed it immediately…didn’t stop hundreds of her supporters from adopting it and applying those words to Bernie.

Seriously, what do you want me to say? Bernie should prostrate himself and rend his clothes in guilt?

And I’m sorry for accusing you of being oversensitive. That was wrong of me.

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darthstar  May 24, 2016 • 1:54:55pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

His accepting the debate was a dumb idea. There’s no way in hell she’ll expose herself in a debate at this stage. Too much risk. I dont’ blame her.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 24, 2016 • 1:59:16pm

re: #361 darthstar

I’d like a clear answer about how you feel about Bernie’s statement that Hillary is unqualified to be President. That wasn’t stupid shit from surrogates, that was from Bernie. (And really, I didn’t mention anything the surrogates did at all. Just what Bernie has said.)

That’s all. Nice and simple.

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darthstar  May 24, 2016 • 2:01:44pm

re: #363 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’d like a clear answer about how you feel about Bernie’s statement that Hillary is unqualified to be President. That wasn’t stupid shit from surrogates, that was from Bernie. (And really, I didn’t mention anything the surrogates did at all. Just what Bernie has said.)

That’s all. Nice and simple.

He retracted that statement. Said he misspoke. I believe him. Is she qualified? Of course she is. Will Trump repeat Bernie’s words until November? Of course he will. Is it a game changer? No. It’s not even as damaging as her imaginary email issues or Benghazi.


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