Another Gem From NPR Music: Carrie Rodriguez: Tiny Desk Concert

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Seeing a new NPR Tiny Desk Concert at YouTube is always a treat, and this set by Carrie Rodriguez is yet another gem.

May 27, 2016 by FELIX CONTRERAS • Carrie Rodriguez has been many things: a classically trained violinist turned American fiddler, a duet partner to veteran songwriter Chip Taylor, a successful and popular solo artist in her own right. On occasion, those roles have allowed her Mexican-American roots to bubble to the surface — perhaps in a line sung in Spanish, or through a reference to a classic mariachi song.

On her new album Lola, Rodriguez’s bi-cultural life blossoms into a spectacular collection of stories and songs, several of which she included in this Tiny Desk concert with guitarist Luke Jacobs.

Lola is available now:
iTunes: itunes.apple.com
Amazon: amazon.com

Set List:
“I Dreamed I Was Lola Beltrán”
“Llano Estacado’”
“Noche De Ronda”

Credits:
Producers: Felix Contreras, Niki Walker; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Kara Frame; Production Assistant: Jackson Sinnenberg; Photo: Brandon Chew/NPR.

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1
No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 6:39:04pm

From downstairs:

MULTIPLE CHOICE

Bernie Sanders is:

A. Insane
B. Nihilistic
C. Stumping for Trump
D. All of the Above

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 6:41:14pm

Four-string acoustic guitar. Is it strung and tuned like a ukulele?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 27, 2016 • 6:42:17pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

Four-string acoustic guitar. Is it strung and tuned like a ukulele?

It’s for people with short fingers. ///

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 6:43:56pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

Four-string acoustic guitar. Is it strung and tuned like a ukulele?

That’s a tenor guitar, and yeah, tuned like a mandolin in fifths: C3 G3 D4 A4.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 6:45:07pm

And yes, the Llano Estacado is a lonely place. The escarpments on the east and west are pretty spectacular, the flat abruptly rises a few hundred feet to one of the continent’s largest tablelands. Above the escarpment is bulldozed flatness, tumbleweeds and desolation, for hundreds of miles in every direction.

When I think of Old Texas, driving through the Llano Estacado gives me a very good idea of the empty west.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 6:46:27pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

That’s a tenor guitar, and yeah, tuned like a mandolin in fifths: C3 G3 D4 A4.

Heh! I knew you’d know!

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Kragar  May 27, 2016 • 6:51:33pm
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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 6:52:12pm

As a person with a physical disability, these so-called “progressives” make me sick. If this is how people with disabilities and mental illnesses are going to be treated, I want nothing to do with their fucking “revolution”.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 6:53:22pm

re: #7 Kragar

Also because Barney Frank had to work with Sanders for many years and is NOT a fan.

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thedopefishlives  May 27, 2016 • 6:53:43pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Also because Barney Frank had to work with Sanders for many years and is NOT a fan.

Barney Frank isn’t feeling the Bern?

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 6:55:21pm

re: #10 thedopefishlives

Barney Frank isn’t feeling the Bern?

Why Progressives Shouldn’t Support Bernie Sanders

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jaunte  May 27, 2016 • 6:56:11pm

Carrie Rodriguez mentions the way Texans insist on pronouncing ‘lano’ estacado. I still remember coming to Houston from a few years in Venezuela and getting sternly corrected on San Felipe road being pronounced San Fill-a-pee.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2016 • 6:56:30pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Also because Barney Frank had to work with Sanders for many years and is NOT a fan.

It seems that virtually none of his colleagues want to have much to do with him or his “revolution.” Which leads Bros not to conclude that the man is an insufferable prick with delusions of grandeur, but rather that they’re all in the pockets of the banks and he’s one of the lone holdouts.

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Brian J.  May 27, 2016 • 6:56:57pm

re: #1 No Depression

From downstairs:

MULTIPLE CHOICE

Bernie Sanders is:

A. Insane
B. Nihilistic
C. Stumping for Trump
D. All of the Above

Also from downstairs: D, with a side order of “The Worse The Better!” dialectic, which is just a rephrase as A.

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 6:57:46pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Why Progressives Shouldn’t Support Bernie Sanders

Sanders really is a mirror image of Trump, a nasty old white man with thin skin.

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jaunte  May 27, 2016 • 7:02:33pm

Man lost in flood, still missing.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 7:03:44pm

re: #16 jaunte

C’mon, man.

TURN AROUND DON’T DROWN

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Unabogie  May 27, 2016 • 7:03:49pm

Shorter Bernie: OMG the nominee will be surrounded by people who support her and not me!

Unreal, Bernie. What a dick.

Image: sandersletter_160527.jpg

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Alyosha  May 27, 2016 • 7:04:28pm

Childhood confusingly augmented.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 27, 2016 • 7:04:46pm

Well this is a shame:

Vintage World War II-era airplane goes down in Hudson River

A P-47 Thunderbolt.

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Brian J.  May 27, 2016 • 7:05:47pm

re: #18 Unabogie

When I click on the link, I’m getting a popup telling me that it comes from a fake news site (msnbc dot co), even though the link is to msnbc dot com.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 7:06:15pm
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bratwurst  May 27, 2016 • 7:06:45pm

Hey, it turns out that the Libertarian party may not want to be represented by someone who only joined a few weeks ago.

Interesting.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2016 • 7:08:44pm
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Unabogie  May 27, 2016 • 7:10:59pm

re: #21 Brian J.

Weird. It’s on the front page right now:

msnbc.com

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 7:12:58pm

…so, wildflower photos? Wildflower photos.

wood violets
calypso orchid
penstemon
bitter root
dwarf bear grass
glacier lillies
uhh…something purple
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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2016 • 7:13:24pm

re: #23 bratwurst

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Hey, it turns out that the Libertarian party may not want to be represented by someone who only joined a few weeks ago.

Interesting.

In retrospect, that makes them smarter than the DNC.

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 7:15:51pm

LOL Shaun is so full of shit. He doesn’t know who Joan Walsh is. Right. Just like he just found out about Monica Lewinsky in 2016.

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Cheechako  May 27, 2016 • 7:17:10pm

Please refresh my memory. Did Bernie “officially” change his Vermont voter registry to Democrat? I don’t remember if he did or not.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 7:18:25pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 27, 2016 • 7:18:54pm

re: #28 No Depression

Shaun King is a first class eeejet. To not know who Joan Walsh is, especially for a so-called journalist? GMAFB.

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Great White Snark  May 27, 2016 • 7:21:03pm

re: #26 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Well done! Wife says mebbe rock roses in purple.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 7:21:13pm

re: #21 Brian J.

When I click on the link, I’m getting a popup telling me that it comes from a fake news site (msnbc dot co), even though the link is to msnbc dot com.

Regular expression bug, now fixed.

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 7:21:43pm

re: #31 Eric The Fruit Bat

Shaun King is a first class eeejet. To not know who Joan Walsh is, especially for a so-called journalist? GMAFB.

Sometimes I can’t tell if he’s a world class idiot or a world class bullshit artist. Maybe both!

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Unabogie  May 27, 2016 • 7:22:45pm
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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 7:22:46pm

re: #28 No Depression

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LOL Shaun is so full of shit. He doesn’t know who Joan Walsh is. Right. Just like he just found out about Monica Lewinsky in 2016.

Yep, he’s lying right out in front of everyone on Twitter.

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EmmaAnne  May 27, 2016 • 7:23:46pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Regular expression bug, now fixed.

I wish it were fake news though. Argh.

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goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2016 • 7:24:49pm
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thedopefishlives  May 27, 2016 • 7:26:03pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Regular expression bug, now fixed.

A bug in a regex? Say it ain’t so!

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 7:27:15pm

re: #39 thedopefishlives

A bug in a regex? Say it ain’t so!

Negative lookahead to the rescue.

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2016 • 7:27:44pm

Sped up video of the Falcon 9 first-stage landing during the THAICOM 8 mission
Wish they had this from launch to landing.

First-stage landing | Onboard camera

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2016 • 7:28:39pm

re: #20 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well this is a shame:

Vintage World War II-era airplane goes down in Hudson River

A P-47 Thunderbolt.

[Embedded content]

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 7:32:19pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 27, 2016 • 7:32:52pm

re: #1 No Depression

From downstairs:

MULTIPLE CHOICE

Bernie Sanders is:

A. Insane
B. Nihilistic
C. Stumping for Trump
D. All of the Above

It’s required by law that all online polls have a ‘Ron Paul’ option.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 7:33:43pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

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Kinda creepy to see these millennials hanging out in the whale ventricles with big grins on their faces.

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jaunte  May 27, 2016 • 7:34:50pm

Separated at hatching?

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 7:35:00pm

re: #44 Not a Sparkly Vampire

It’s required by law that all online polls have a ‘Ron Paul’ option.

Reminds me of this:

Giphy

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calochortus  May 27, 2016 • 7:35:22pm

re: #26 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

…so, wildflower photos? Wildflower photos.

[Embedded content]

Your something purple photo is probably “sky pilot” according to Mr. C., who knows about these things. Which variety depends on where the photo was taken.

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Unabogie  May 27, 2016 • 7:36:08pm

I really hate that Twitter has no edit feature.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 7:38:28pm

re: #49 Unabogie

I really hate that Twitter has no edit feature.

Tell me about it.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 7:42:54pm

re: #32 Great White Snark

Hmm, maybe. There are a lot of species, but none of the pictures I can find online look quite right, especially the foliage.

Here’s a clearer pic of it:

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 7:44:21pm

:(

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calochortus  May 27, 2016 • 7:45:49pm

re: #51 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Where was the picture taken? The Rockies?

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2016 • 7:45:52pm

re: #20 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well this is a shame:

Vintage World War II-era airplane goes down in Hudson River

A P-47 Thunderbolt.

Embedded Image

I’m hoping they can recover the plane. We can’t lose too much history.

Shaking my head at the lack of research. The P-47 is a single seat aircraft. If there is a survivor there’s no need to look for more. Unless it was tricked out with a passenger seat which in my opinion is kind of doubtful.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 7:49:23pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Kinda creepy to see these millennials hanging out in the whale ventricles with big grins on their faces.

Millennial based arterial blockage is one of the leading causes of premature whale mortality, but I think Pfizer’s got a pill in stage 2 clinical trials.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 7:50:28pm

re: #53 calochortus

The Cascades, in Washington.

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2016 • 7:50:51pm

re: #26 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Been playing Witcher 2. I got it and the first one for less than $5 Canadian on Steam.

So my first thought when I saw those pictures was, “Let’s pick those. I can probably make something useful out of them.”

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 7:52:16pm

And yeah, it definitely looks like some variety of sky pilot. Thanks.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 27, 2016 • 7:53:24pm

re: #58 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

And yeah, it definitely looks like some variety of sky pilot. Thanks.

ERIC BURDON & THE ANIMALS- “SKY PILOT” (LONG VERSION)

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calochortus  May 27, 2016 • 7:54:24pm

re: #56 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

The Cascades, in Washington.

How about polemonium pulcherrimum?

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2016 • 7:55:15pm

re: #42 FormerDirtDart

Damn. Not good.

Wonder why the first article said there was a survivor.

Oh yeah. Too soon to be accurate.

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2016 • 7:55:53pm

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

I’m hoping they can recover the plane. We can’t lose too much history.

Shaking my head at the lack of research. The P-47 is a single seat aircraft. If there is a survivor there’s no need to look for more. Unless it was tricked out with a passenger seat which in my opinion is kind of doubtful.

There was some confusion in reporting about a person recovered at the crash site.
It was a swimmer who may have attempted to provide assistance immediately following the crash.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 7:59:34pm

Baby out-ge-popping update: Daughter sent me a message on WhatsApp at 6:30 to say they’d agreed on a C-section. So, the granddaughter’s arrival should be happening soon.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 7:59:48pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2016 • 8:01:48pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 8:03:08pm

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Baby out-ge-popping update: Daughter sent me a message on WhatsApp at 6:30 to say they’d agreed on a C-section. So, the granddaughter’s arrival should be happening soon.

And I should have checked my WhatsApp before posting. Baby Camille was born at 7:15 ET. Mother and daughter doing fine, though way tired. 8 lbs 6 oz and 20.5” long.

I am bigly happy.

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calochortus  May 27, 2016 • 8:04:03pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And I should have checked my WhatsApp before posting. Baby Camille was born at 7:15 ET. Mother and daughter doing fine, though way tired. 8 lbs 6 oz and 20.5” long.

I am bigly happy.

Congrats, Grandpa. All the best to mother and daughter.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 8:04:27pm

re: #60 calochortus

Yeah, that looked like the best candidate I could find a picture of. It’s not exactly the same, but the differences can probably be chalked up to alpine dwarfing.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 8:04:32pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Congrats my friend! I’ll just call you “grandpa” from now on.

/

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thedopefishlives  May 27, 2016 • 8:05:06pm

Right! That’s a new router installed and configured. This completes the updates to the fish household’s networking.

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calochortus  May 27, 2016 • 8:05:28pm

re: #68 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Plants do vary somewhat, just because…

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2016 • 8:05:59pm

There’s a firefly in the house………

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 8:06:19pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And I should have checked my WhatsApp before posting. Baby Camille was born at 7:15 ET. Mother and daughter doing fine, though way tired. 8 lbs 6 oz and 20.5” long.

I am bigly happy.

So, does she have a twitter account yet?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 8:06:35pm
Here she is!
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 8:06:59pm

re: #73 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

So, does she have a twitter account yet?

She’s going to buy Twitter.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 8:11:11pm
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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 8:11:32pm

My life was so much better before I found out about Hammer and Sickle Twitter. Going online and seeing assholes all across the ideological spectrum makes it way too easy to fall into the trap of thinking that kind and decent people are few and far in between.

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Jenner7  May 27, 2016 • 8:13:09pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

And Obama chose her for SOS.

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Belafon  May 27, 2016 • 8:14:30pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

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And somehow, eight years later, Sanders learned nothing from the way she acted.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 8:15:16pm

re: #75 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

She’s going to buy Twitter.

That’s a bad investment. Chuck Johnson’s gonna put them out of business before too long, after all…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  May 27, 2016 • 8:15:30pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I was born at roughly the same weight.

Mom fainted shortly after giving birth.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 8:17:37pm

re: #77 No Depression

My life was so much better before I found out about Hammer and Sickle Twitter. Going online and seeing assholes all across the ideological spectrum makes it way too easy to fall into the trap of thinking that kind and decent people are few and far in between.

Online postings are hardly representative of actual people. I’ve had to explain this to people a few times lately. “Alt-right” and “hammer-and-sickle” Twitter seems louder and more obnoxious when you’re actually looking at it. But go out into crowds of humans, those same humans that are despicable and lecherous online do not display that attitude in meat space 99% of the time. Most - if not all - of the “alt-right” and “hammer-and-sickle” tweeters are anonymous. They’re fucking cowards who won’t actually say any of the vile shit they say online to another human being in person.

BTW, if any of you go to my Twitter, that is my *real name* that I attach to all my tweets.

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retired cynic  May 27, 2016 • 8:17:38pm

re: #81 Ziggy_TARDIS

I was born at roughly the same weight.

Mom fainted shortly after giving birth.

I was right at 8 lb. My brother was 9. Mom said she wasn’t going for 10.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2016 • 8:18:34pm

re: #42 FormerDirtDart

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Sucks :(

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thedopefishlives  May 27, 2016 • 8:19:25pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And I should have checked my WhatsApp before posting. Baby Camille was born at 7:15 ET. Mother and daughter doing fine, though way tired. 8 lbs 6 oz and 20.5” long.

I am bigly happy.

Major congratulations are in order!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 8:19:34pm

re: #81 Ziggy_TARDIS

I was born at roughly the same weight.

Mom fainted shortly after giving birth.

My daughter was huge! She’s not a big woman, so that belly was pretty impressive.
Normal labor was not going as planned, so the docs opted for a C-section — a bit easier for both mom and baby.

My daughter was also born C-section, because she was breech and a month early. I was born C-section because of my mother’s age (41). So, Camille is just keeping with family tradition.

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calochortus  May 27, 2016 • 8:19:44pm

re: #83 retired cynic

I was right at 8 lb. My brother was 9. Mom said she wasn’t going for 10.

A wise woman, your mother. My kids were 8 and 9 lbs. respectively, but I’m 5’10” and built on fairly generous lines, so it wasn’t outrageous (beyond the general level of fun in childbirth.)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 8:20:02pm

re: #80 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

That’s a bad investment. Chuck Johnson’s gonna put them out of business before too long, after all…

She can buy it for a song, then.

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Brian J.  May 27, 2016 • 8:20:02pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Regular expression bug, now fixed.

xkcd.com

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 8:20:49pm

re: #79 Belafon

And somehow, eight years later, Sanders learned nothing from the way she acted.

I doubt he was actually paying attention. Why should he care which neoliberal shill the so-called Democratic Party chooses? They were only going to elevate special interests like corporations and black people over the glorious proletarian uprising anyway. /

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retired cynic  May 27, 2016 • 8:21:20pm

re: #87 calochortus

A wise woman, your mother. My kids were 8 and 9 lbs. respectively, but I’m 5’10” and built on fairly generous lines, so it wasn’t outrageous (beyond the general level of fun in childbirth.)

Oh, poor mom was about 5 feet and around 100 pounds prior to me. I have her wedding ring, and it looks like a baby ring. She said you could set a table for two on her tum.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 8:21:42pm

re: #83 retired cynic

I was right at 8 lb. My brother was 9. Mom said she wasn’t going for 10.

I was 8 lbs. 2 oz. Mom had to spend a week in the hospital. She’s 5’ 7”.

My younger sister’s birth weight is very easy to remember. 7’11”

I was an eight pound baby born at 7,000 feet elevation. Unusual for sure, like me! I’m unusual.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 8:21:44pm
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CleverToad  May 27, 2016 • 8:22:49pm

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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Awwww!
Congratulations and best wishes, Granddad and new little darling!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 8:23:20pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

As you said, Lucy and Charlie Brown’s football trick.

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Brian J.  May 27, 2016 • 8:23:33pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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Reminds me of the story about the Marx Brothers’ A Night In Casablanca, except that the Marx Brothers actually knew what they were doing.

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goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2016 • 8:24:20pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

The debate fiasco is also funny to me because now that’s what people are talking about instead of the State Dept IG report on Hillary’s email server, which while basically a nothing-burger contained enough sound bites to dominate a weekend news cycle. Now it’s all about these two guys and their incompetent bullshit. Nice.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 8:25:22pm

Ooh. I think I just tossed some chum into shark-infested waters.

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Teukka  May 27, 2016 • 8:25:58pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

Ooh. I think I just tossed some chum into the shark-infested waters.

Or the sharks got the delusion you did. Same effect.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2016 • 8:25:59pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

I was 8 lbs. 2 oz. Mom had to spend a week in the hospital. She’s 5’ 7”.

My younger sister’s birth weight is very easy to remember. 7’11”

I was an eight pound baby born at 7,000 feet elevation. Unusual for sure, like me! I’m unusual.

I’m gonna assume you mean 7# 11 oz, or that would be a really, really tall baby. Or even a really, really tall adult.

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2016 • 8:26:00pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Congratulations.

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 8:26:27pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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Donald Trump doesn’t care if Bernie supporters think he’s a chicken, because he knows his slack-jawed supporters don’t care about it either.

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William of Orange  May 27, 2016 • 8:28:16pm

What is happening to my beloved lgf.com? All nice and we’ll but this blog was supposed th be a political blog, not a music magazine. Could you please tone down the music bits and focus on politics?

Thank you.

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2016 • 8:29:30pm

re: #77 No Depression

My life was so much better before I found out about Hammer and Sickle Twitter. Going online and seeing assholes all across the ideological spectrum makes it way too easy to fall into the trap of thinking that kind and decent people are few and far in between.

That’s why I’ve never used it. Plus I’m such a wordy bastard trying to keep things to 140 characters is nearly impossible.

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calochortus  May 27, 2016 • 8:29:53pm

I’m going to say good night. Hasta mañana Lizards.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 8:29:58pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

I guess Napoleon’s advice to “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake having a bad news cycle” is hard to follow when you are pathologically driven to grab for the spotlight at every opportunity.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 8:31:06pm

re: #103 William of Orange

What is happening to my beloved lgf.com? All nice and we’ll but this blog was supposed th be a political blog, not a music magazine. Could you please tone down the music bits and focus on politics?

Thank you.

Uh…

Here’s Stan Lee and Grumpy Cat. That’s all I got.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2016 • 8:31:37pm

re: #86 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My daughter was huge! She’s not a big woman, so that belly was pretty impressive.
Normal labor was not going as planned, so the docs opted for a C-section — a bit easier for both mom and baby.

My daughter was also born C-section, because she was breech and a month early. I was born C-section because of my mother’s age (41). So, Camille is just keeping with family tradition.

I love the name Camille. Congrats GPa.

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 8:32:17pm

re: #104 Romantic Heretic

That’s why I’ve never used it. Plus I’m such a wordy bastard trying to keep things to 140 characters is nearly impossible.

I mostly just follow people on it; I don’t ever tweet. I’m just a masochist who can’t help but look into the abyss.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 8:33:18pm
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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 8:37:15pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 8:37:32pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

I love the name Camille. Congrats GPa.

I do, too. Daughter majored in French and spent time in la belle pays, so she wanted a French name. Lynn is from her husband’s side of the family.

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jeffreyw  May 27, 2016 • 8:38:48pm
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retired cynic  May 27, 2016 • 8:39:36pm

re: #113 jeffreyw

Stark Drama!

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jaunte  May 27, 2016 • 8:41:34pm

re: #83 retired cynic

I was right at 8 lb. My brother was 9. Mom said she wasn’t going for 10.

I was a 10 pounder. My mother is going to be 90 next week, and she still punches me when she thinks about it.

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jeffreyw  May 27, 2016 • 8:43:01pm

re: #114 retired cynic

That’s Toby, and he can’t believe I just did that.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 8:44:40pm

This is me, pretty much done with Shaun King’s bullshit.

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allegro  May 27, 2016 • 8:49:30pm

re: #113 jeffreyw

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Stellaaaaa!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 27, 2016 • 8:50:43pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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Shocking! Kinda makes you wonder why Obama picked her for Secretary of State, doesn’t it? @ShaunKing

Oh, they’ve got that covered—it’s an article of faith that Obama offered her the SoS job to drop out. A felony and impeachable offense….

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retired cynic  May 27, 2016 • 8:51:34pm

re: #119 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I heard that one. Back in the day. BS.

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Majacita  May 27, 2016 • 8:53:47pm

I’m getting ready to head to bed and stopped by to make myself feel better about the election and people in general. I made the mistake of taking up reading DailyKos again. The Bernie people are leaving flounce diaries and the atmosphere is thick with venom. The flouncers seem to be advocating for this other blog that I will not name and it made me grateful I found LGF. You guys are mostly sane and any hatefulness is shut down fast. I think I’ll stay away from there until after California at least.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 8:55:43pm

re: #121 Majacita

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Brian J.  May 27, 2016 • 8:56:32pm

re: #119 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, they’ve got that covered—it’s an article of faith that Obama offered her the SoS job to drop out. A felony and impeachable offense….

I’m sure Hillary will be glad to offer Mr. Sanders a position appropriate to his talents and politics. Pyongyang needs a new ambassador.

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Lidane  May 27, 2016 • 9:00:07pm

re: #12 jaunte

Carrie Rodriguez mentions the way Texans insist on pronouncing ‘lano’ estacado. I still remember coming to Houston from a few years in Venezuela and getting sternly corrected on San Felipe road being pronounced San Fill-a-pee.

There’s an auto body shop here in Austin called Ellis & Salazar. The name Salazar is pronounced “Suh-LAY-zar”. It drives me nuts every time. There’s also a street named Manchaca that everyone in this town pronounces “Man-chack”. ARGH.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 27, 2016 • 9:00:40pm

re: #123 Brian J.

Oh, they’ve got that covered—it’s an article of faith that Obama offered her the SoS job to drop out. A felony and impeachable offense….

I’m sure Hillary will be glad to offer Mr. Sanders a position appropriate to his talents and politics. Pyongyang needs a new ambassador.

Reportedly tRump plans on naming his whole cabinet at the Convention. Ten or twelve felonies performed on network TV. There’s no way he’d ever be charged with anything, of course.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 9:01:25pm

re: #124 Lidane

There’s an auto body shop here in Austin called Ellis & Salazar. The name Salazar is pronounced “Suh-LAY-zar”. It drives me nuts every time. There’s also a street named Manchaca that everyone in this town pronounces “Man-chack”. ARGH.

Come to Kentucky, and visit Vur-SAYLZ..

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 9:02:27pm

re: #124 Lidane

There’s an auto body shop here in Austin called Ellis & Salazar. The name Salazar is pronounced “Suh-LAY-zar”. It drives me nuts every time. There’s also a street named Manchaca that everyone in this town pronounces “Man-chack”. ARGH.

There’s a town in the upper reaches of the Arkansas River in Colorado. Buena Vista. The locals pronounce it B-Yoo-Na Vista. Fuck, man.

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Teukka  May 27, 2016 • 9:02:40pm

Off topic, but food for thought:
ScienceNordic: Bullies best eradicated with strict policies

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Belafon  May 27, 2016 • 9:03:02pm

re: #124 Lidane

There’s an auto body shop here in Austin called Ellis & Salazar. The name Salazar is pronounced “Suh-LAY-zar”. It drives me nuts every time. There’s also a street named Manchaca that everyone in this town pronounces “Man-chack”. ARGH.

Up here in the DFW area, we have the town of Ne-VAY-duh. And don’t forget Pal-a-stEEn.

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retired cynic  May 27, 2016 • 9:03:17pm

re: #126 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Come to Kentucky, and visit Vur-SAYLZ..

We’ve VurSAYLZ, and MarSAYLZ, and KAYRO and BERlin and gosh knows how many more in Illinois.

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Lidane  May 27, 2016 • 9:06:20pm

re: #23 bratwurst

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Hey, it turns out that the Libertarian party may not want to be represented by someone who only joined a few weeks ago.

Interesting.

I had some Bernie bot tell me that the Green Party would be totally cool with Bernie coming into their national convention in August after being denied the Democratic nomination and becoming the Green nominee for POTUS.

Right. Because the Greens would be copacetic as a consolation prize for a major party candidate.

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retired cynic  May 27, 2016 • 9:06:22pm

re: #129 Belafon

Up here in the DFW area, we have the town of Ne-VAY-duh. And don’t forget Pal-a-stEEn.

Yep, Missouri has a NeVAYduh, too. We’re proud of our mispronunciations hereabouts in the midwest! And I think that toasts me for the night. Keep cool, lizards.

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Belafon  May 27, 2016 • 9:06:34pm

re: #128 Teukka

Off topic, but food for thought:
ScienceNordic: Bullies best eradicated with strict policies

One of the great things about working with a government contractor is that we are required annual training on ethics, workplace behavior, and how to treat other employees. This includes reminders about making sure decisions aren’t being made based on gender, race, or age.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  May 27, 2016 • 9:07:31pm

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I was never that precious. I think I just sort of appeared in kindergarten and I was about 3 feet tall.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 9:12:14pm

This picture…

I’m a sucker for pictures of pretty ladies from the past.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 9:14:34pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 9:15:54pm

re: #130 retired cynic

We’ve VurSAYLZ, and MarSAYLZ, and KAYRO and BERlin and gosh knows how many more in Illinois.

Illuh-NOISE?

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 9:19:38pm

Hey wheatdogg, @GotNwes follows several LGF folks, but not me! You mind padding my follow list with a follow? I RT GotNwes! Thanks. @teleskiguy

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 9:20:46pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

Hey wheatdogg, @GotNwes follows several LGF folks, but not me! You mind padding my follow list with a follow? I RT GotNwes! Thanks. @teleskiguy

Roger that. When I log into Twitter again, consider it done.

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bratwurst  May 27, 2016 • 9:26:44pm

re: #136 teleskiguy

I am horrified by the growing war over money between the Zappa children.

Unfortunately, it seems to largely come down to awful management of the estate by the late Gail Zappa…leaving 4 children to fight over pennies.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2016 • 9:29:03pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

This is me, pretty much done with Shaun King’s bullshit.

I’m actually kind of surprised he hasn’t blocked you yet.

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 9:29:18pm

I don’t know how strategically sound this is, but It might be time for the Clinton campaign to quietly drag some skeletons out of Bernie’s closet.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 9:29:28pm

re: #140 bratwurst

I am horrified by the growing war over money between the Zappa children.

Unfortunately, it seems to largely come down to awful management of the estate by the late Gail Zappa…leaving 4 children to fight over pennies.

I hear there will be a similar fight over BB King’s estate. BB got around, if you know what I mean.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 9:30:02pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m actually kind of surprised he hasn’t blocked you yet.

His name is not Charlene Johnson.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2016 • 9:30:48pm

re: #134 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I was never that precious. I think I just sort of appeared in kindergarten and I was about 3 feet tall.

With or without a beard?

/

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Belafon  May 27, 2016 • 9:31:07pm

re: #142 No Depression

I don’t know how strategically sound this is, but It might be time for the Clinton campaign to quietly drag some skeletons out of Bernie’s closet.

At this point, I think it’s better if she just concentrated on Trump. Would any of the skeletons convince any of Bernie’s supporters to change their view that his current actions won’t? I don’t think so. It’s better if she let him ruin his own reputation.

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2016 • 9:32:00pm

10) Pinky becomes President of the United States…

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 9:35:03pm

re: #140 bratwurst

And Dweezil continues to play Frank’s music live in concert.

I take Moon’s and Dweezil’s side in this feud. Ahmet and Diva are going about the whole thing all wrong. I do look forward to Alex Winter’s film, I donated a hundred dollars to that Kickistarter believing that the money would go to preserving the contents of Franks’s vault. We shall see. The whole thing is messy as all fuck. Whatever. I look forward to Dweezil playing his pops’ tunes at Red Rocks this summer. Dweezil is doing the yeoman’s work when it comes to spreading his pops’ music around. He should be getting more credit (and money) from the Zappa Family Trust for what he’s doing.

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 9:35:25pm

re: #146 Belafon

At this point, I think it’s better if she just concentrated on Trump. Would any of the skeletons convince any of his voters to change their view that his current actions won’t? I don’t think so. It’s better if she let him ruin his own reputation.

You’re probably right. I’m just really pissed right now. The DNC should just say no to Bernie and focus on Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2016 • 9:48:03pm

After first blowing off a promised meeting, then lying about the content and consensus of the followup meeting, the Sanders campaign is now going to war with AIDS activist Peter Staley, attacking him personally.

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bratwurst  May 27, 2016 • 9:48:07pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

And Dweezil continues to play Frank’s music live in concert.

I take Moon’s and Dweezil’s side in this feud. Ahmet and Diva are going about the whole thing all wrong. I do look forward to Alex Winter’s film, I donated a hundred dollars to that Kickistarter believing that the money would go to preserving the contents of Franks’s vault. We shall see. The whole thing is messy as all fuck. Whatever. I look forward to Dweezil playing his pops’ tunes at Red Rocks this summer. Dweezil is doing the yeoman’s work when it comes to spreading his pops’ music around. He should be getting more credit (and money) from the Zappa Family Trust for what he’s doing.

I am reading the feuding “open letters” here now, and I am just flabbergasted that it mostly comes down to the family trust collecting 100% of the merchandise sales for Dweezil’s tours. It’s sad that they would do this when Dweezil is working his ass off and organizing the massive expense of putting on these tours without the backing of the trust. What is even MORE sad is the fact that the trust is in such dire straits that it cannot go on without the proceeds from selling t-shirts 40-80 nights per year.

Bottom line: the lot of them managed to piss away whatever money Frank left behind, and Dweezil is pretty much the only child who has figured out a way to support himself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2016 • 9:55:12pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

Ugh. Bernie pisses me off more and more with each passing day. I really think he’s just a figurehead now. A puppet whose strings are being pulled by the people behind the scenes and are just using him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 27, 2016 • 9:58:14pm

Bill Maher is an Idiot, Episode eleventy million:

Maher asks Sanders for strategy to fight Trump: ‘Obviously Hillary Clinton doesn’t have it’

Jesus Fuck! That couldn’t have anything to do with the fact that she’s been having to fight him first.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2016 • 9:58:49pm

Bernie Sanders supporters who plan to vote for Trump.

nyti.ms

“A dark side of me wants to see what happens if Trump is in,” said Mr. Vizcarra, who works in information technology. “There is going to be some kind of change, and even if it’s like a Nazi-type change, people are so drama-filled. They want to see stuff like that happen. It’s like reality TV. You don’t want to just see everybody be happy with each other. You want to see someone fighting somebody.”

Jackie Becerra, 28, an executive assistant who lives in Lake Forest, also said she was leaning toward voting for Mr. Trump if Mr. Sanders was not the Democratic nominee. She said that she doubted Mr. Trump would keep his promise to build a wall along the border with Mexico, and that, even though his proposal to bar foreign Muslims from entering the United States made her “nervous,” she did not believe he could stop people from coming into the country based on their religion.

“Everyone is like: ‘Trump has these terrible social issues. He hates Muslims and he hates the L.G.B.T. community,’ ” she said. “But our world is big enough that he’s not actually going to implement any of those changes in a realistic way. But what he will do is potentially audit the federal government, and he will try to break up some of the banks and try to at least influence government that way. However, with Hillary, it will just be a complacent, run-of-the-middle-of-the-road presidency.”

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jaunte  May 27, 2016 • 10:00:34pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

‘…There is going to be some kind of change, and even if it’s like a Nazi-type change, people are so drama-filled. They want to see stuff like that happen.’

And they’ll be shocked when it happens to them.

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goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2016 • 10:02:24pm

I just love the part at the end “I’m right and everybody else is wrong. Clear about that?” Bernie has always been such an incredibly self-aggrandizing, arrogant cock-knocker.

This is another bit from that same 2014 National Journal article, where Bernie rejected the Obama coalition in order to focus on the white working-class.

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 10:03:47pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh. Bernie pisses me off more and more with each passing day. I really think he’s just a figurehead now. A puppet whose strings are being pulled by the people behind the scenes and are just using him.

No it’s all him. He’s showing his true colors.

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jaunte  May 27, 2016 • 10:07:23pm
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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2016 • 10:17:32pm

Heeeey. Trading in my 2014 Ford Focus for a 2016 hatchback.

Memorial day rebates/specials & all that. My dealership is great, all over the phone/text/email, delivering tomorrow to me house at 9.

Since I’m working from home now, I decided it was worth it to re-up my loan to have a car that will have old lady style mileage in the future.

Yay.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2016 • 10:18:23pm

re: #151 bratwurst

I’m sending this comment to Moon and Dweezil on Twitter. I hope you don’t mind!

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Kragar  May 27, 2016 • 10:29:27pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2016 • 10:30:50pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Bernie Sanders supporters who plan to vote for Trump.

nyti.ms

Jackie Becerra, 28, an executive assistant who lives in Lake Forest, also said she was leaning toward voting for Mr. Trump if Mr. Sanders was not the Democratic nominee. She said that she doubted Mr. Trump would keep his promise to build a wall along the border with Mexico, and that, even though his proposal to bar foreign Muslims from entering the United States made her “nervous,” she did not believe he could stop people from coming into the country based on their religion.

“Everyone is like: ‘Trump has these terrible social issues. He hates Muslims and he hates the L.G.B.T. community,’ ” she said. “But our world is big enough that he’s not actually going to implement any of those changes in a realistic way. But what he will do is potentially audit the federal government, and he will try to break up some of the banks and try to at least influence government that way. However, with Hillary, it will just be a complacent, run-of-the-middle-of-the-road presidency.”

Okay, two things here. First, we live in a society filled with low functioning idiots, psychopaths, and low functioning psychopathic idiots. To think that Trump isn’t going to be able to do all the horrible things he’s promised as a reason to vote for him is to turn a blind eye to the fact that he’s the kind of monstrous asshole who actually promised those things. It doesn’t matter if you think he’s not going to be able to pull off his ethnic and religious cleansing agenda because voting for him, or even not voting at all, means you condone those kinds of horrid promises.

Second, Trump has come out against breaking up the banks and instead wants to just repeal Dodd-Frank. It’s the exact opposite of Bernie’s agenda, Trump would put us back where we were under Bush, prime for another free market induced economic disaster with no regulatory oversight whatsoever. But his ignorant douchebag supporter in that article gets everything so twisted up in her retarded head that she ends up thinking Trump actually shares Sanders anti-banking policy goals.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  May 27, 2016 • 10:42:59pm

re: #153 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Maher is incredibly misogynisic.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2016 • 10:47:32pm

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

This is why change for change’s sake is really a white privilege thing. When you are willing to gamble every hard-won victory of women’s rights, black rights, lgbt rights, on “change”, because you figure you’ll be insulated from the downside.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 27, 2016 • 10:54:22pm

re: #163 Ziggy_TARDIS

Maher is incredibly misogynisic.

I don’t think the misogyny against President Clinton is going to play as well in Peoria as the racism against President Obama has.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 27, 2016 • 11:07:32pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

This picture…

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I’m a sucker for pictures of pretty ladies from the past.

Technically, all pictures (of pretty ladies or otherwise) are from the past.

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VegasGolfer  May 27, 2016 • 11:17:00pm

Real Time with Bill Maher: Dilbert Creator Scott Adams (HBO)
Scott Adams might be on to something. (not so sure about his election prediction)

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2016 • 11:22:18pm

re: #166 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Technically, all pictures (of pretty ladies or otherwise) are from the past.

Well, except for the one Marty McFly took back to 1955

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Alyosha  May 27, 2016 • 11:36:12pm

Finally watched ‘The Revenant’ though the power decided to go out less than a minute before the credits rolled.
Pretty darn good. Makes me hopeful for an similar adaptation of ‘Blood Meridian.’

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 27, 2016 • 11:36:13pm

re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, except for the one Marty McFly took back to 1955

This brings to mind the season finale of The Flash, which I’ll put in spoiler tags just in case.

So, the depressed Barry Allen decides to go back in time to save his mother, which he had avoided doing before so he wouldn’t fuck up the time line. As he saves mom, he sees his earlier visitation fade from view, since this Flash has wiped out the time line that contained that earlier visitation. But he doesn’t fade away, too. This implies what? He will become The Flash anyway? Zoom and Reverse Flash are dead, too?

The ending for the season left me a little pissed off, because it seems like the writers just want to reboot the story lines and start all over again. Just when I was getting used to everything, they go and change it all — again.

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goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2016 • 11:43:46pm

Got a live one.

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goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2016 • 11:44:47pm

P.S.

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No Depression  May 27, 2016 • 11:49:37pm

How Bernie Sanders Would Run Against Hillary Clinton

This article from February 2015 is quite ironic within the context of Sanders’ recent behavior. Look at this shit:

Sanders sees running against Clinton as an opportunity not to tear her apart politically, but to distinguish himself and force the party to have a serious policy discussion on issues as diverse as income inequality and foreign policy.

“This is a woman I respect, clearly a very intelligent person who I think is impressive on issues, by the way,” Sanders said. “I think we have a debate about how you rebuild a crumbling middle class, a debate about how you reverse climate change, a debate about the foreign policy … a debate about Wall Street, and that would be, I think, good for the American people, to be honest with you.”

Right. “Serious policy discussion” like how the Superdelegates are evil and corrupt just because they won’t support him. And he respects her so much that he tried to have a debate against the GOP nominee behind her back and makes ridiculous demands for the convention even though he fucking lost.

Sanders emphasized that, despite pointing out contrasts, he won’t run negative ads against Clinton. He didn’t during his mayoral races, Senate races, or House contests, he said. And he is not going to start now.

“It is not my style to trash people,” Sanders said.

LOL.All he’s done for the last few months is repeatedly trash anyone who doesn’t support him by tarring them with the “establishment” label, regardless of how reliable their support of progressive causes has been.

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goddamnedfrank  May 28, 2016 • 12:38:37am
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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 28, 2016 • 12:45:04am

re: #161 Kragar

A close read of the new report shows Hillary Clinton’s email scandal still isn’t a scandal

“It is difficult to get the media to understand something, when their ratings depend upon them not understanding it.”

-Abraham Lincoln

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 28, 2016 • 12:45:26am

So there’s no such thing as Reefer Madness, huh?

Stoned Man Calls Cops on Dog That ‘Shot’ Him in Butt

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 28, 2016 • 12:59:11am

So, next time one of you guys who engages with the Bernouts runs into one arguing about how anything Trump might do would either fail or get reversed in the glorious revolution, ask them this for me: what happens when President Trump sets back the fight on global warming by a decade or two? The clock’s ticking, every second we don’t act is a second gone forever. What’s Bernie going to do to fix that, invent a time machine?

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 1:11:34am

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

See a bit of Dunning-Kruger in it too. They have this internal narrative in which they’ve accumulated enough of an education in order to recognise and oppose the oligarchy.

That it exists is enough for them to eschew any solutions that require compromise and vigilance. That would not be in keeping with the Revolution, which has always been this guiding principle. It’s also an expectation that gets reinforced with each loss.

Without self-reflection, how else do you explain the rejection of the Revolution by people of colour? And there is a natural form of punishment for those who were reluctant to buy the high hopes Sanders sold. And that’s to vote Trump or sit out the election.

These people have no idea how compromised their humanity has become because they are too incompetent to recognise their own failing thought processes.

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Bubblehead II  May 28, 2016 • 2:45:52am

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And I should have checked my WhatsApp before posting. Baby Camille was born at 7:15 ET. Mother and daughter doing fine, though way tired. 8 lbs 6 oz and 20.5” long.

I am bigly happy.

First Grandchild? Congrats Grandpa. Now wait until it’s your first Great Grandchild.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 2:47:18am

re: #179 Bubblehead II

First Grandchild? Congrats Grandpa. Now wait until it’s your first Great Grandchild.

I may be in my mid-80s when that happens. I plan to be around for that.

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Ming5000  May 28, 2016 • 2:47:37am

re: #171 goddamnedfrank

Exactly! Good point!

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Ming5000  May 28, 2016 • 2:53:20am

re: #126 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Come to Kentucky, and visit Vur-SAYLZ..

Like this lady.
If you haven’t watched this documentary you might give it a try.
Had me squirming in my seat at times.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 28, 2016 • 2:54:29am

re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I may be in my mid-80s when that happens. I plan to be around for that.

You’ll be laboring in the sulfur mines to satisfy the hideous appetites of the conquering Slug-men of Zebulon VII, but you’ll be around. [/spoilers]

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 2:55:00am

The BernieBro Lizard digs deeper:

VelvetElvis

If we’re told to fuck off, we’ll fuck right on off. Our demands will be heard and respected.

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Ming5000  May 28, 2016 • 3:01:28am

re: #184 Nyet

So many things the BernieBros do and say parallel how the GOP functioned under Obama.

No compromise, demands, ultimatums, tantrums, outrage, hyperbole, butt hurt….

whew… That felt good. I feel cleansed :-)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 3:03:44am

re: #183 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

You’ll be laboring in the sulfur mines to satisfy the hideous appetites of the conquering Slug-men of Zebulon VII, but you’ll be around. [/spoilers]

Well, as long as no one decides to demolish the Earth to put in a bypass, I’ll be OK.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 3:05:03am

Of course he does.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 3:09:53am

Our demands will be heard and respected!

*stomps little feet*

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Dave In Austin  May 28, 2016 • 3:28:03am

re: #124 Lidane

There’s an auto body shop here in Austin called Ellis & Salazar. The name Salazar is pronounced “Suh-LAY-zar”. It drives me nuts every time. There’s also a street named Manchaca that everyone in this town pronounces “Man-chack”. ARGH.

I still can’t get use to it. They spell with a Texas drawl.

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Bubblehead II  May 28, 2016 • 3:51:06am

re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I may be in my mid-80s when that happens. I plan to be around for that.

If I make it that far (I plan on it as well) I’ll be into the Great Great stage of the game.

Time to call it a morning and finish getting ready for work. See y’all this afternoon after work. L8R

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Dave In Austin  May 28, 2016 • 4:15:42am
Create your own Donald Trump slogan with the LGF Trump Bumper Sticker Generator! http://lgf.bz/1sAlIOa
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Dave In Austin  May 28, 2016 • 4:28:38am

Good article…. And I agree wholeheartedly.
huffingtonpost.com

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 4:42:30am

Some Russian deputies want to prohibit this song.

Leningrad — Drinking spirits in Saint Pete

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 4:55:39am

re: #193 Nyet

It’s one way to deal with life under Putin, I suppose.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 4:58:04am

Been busy today. Has anyone posted about the clashes and arrests at the Trump rally in San Diego?
bbc.com

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 5:27:26am

At the end of the day, on the election day the grumpy old man will have to vote for Hillary Clinton. ROFL.

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jeffreyw  May 28, 2016 • 5:54:07am

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Good morning! To bell the cat, just get him drunk.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 28, 2016 • 5:57:32am

re: #115 jaunte

I was a 10 pounder. My mother is going to be 90 next week, and she still punches me when she thinks about it.

My brothers got larger, I am the oldest and 7 lb, my youngest brother was 12 lb. Natural delivery.

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SoundGuy 2016  May 28, 2016 • 6:09:40am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Barney Frank called it long ago.

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 6:14:32am
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PhillyPretzel  May 28, 2016 • 6:18:24am

re: #200 Alyosha

They have described that Trump person to a “T.” No pun intended.

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 6:20:22am

re: #201 PhillyPretzel

They have described that Trump person to a “T.” No pun intended.

You say ‘craven fop’ like it’s a bad thing.

Mornin’ gang…

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 6:21:47am
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Dr. Matt  May 28, 2016 • 6:25:33am

FFS

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 6:26:32am

re: #204 Dr. Matt

FFS

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It’s all noise.

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PhillyPretzel  May 28, 2016 • 6:28:00am

re: #204 Dr. Matt

re: #205 darthstar

I am at Wegman’s this morning and I just saw that on CNN. This is one of the craziest elections I have ever seen.

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 6:28:25am

re: #205 darthstar

It’s all noise.

And yes, Pat Buchanan is back on CNN…noise. Noise, noise, noise. I think the GOP strategy is to pollute the airways with noise so nobody has time to think before November.

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PhillyPretzel  May 28, 2016 • 6:30:19am

re: #208 Dr. Matt

The first one looks better.

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 6:32:50am

re: #206 PhillyPretzel

I am at Wegman’s this morning and I just saw that on CNN. This is one of the craziest elections I have ever seen.

I’m sure we can stop watching any time we want.

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PhillyPretzel  May 28, 2016 • 6:35:21am

re: #210 darthstar

This election reminds me of watching a slow-motion of an automobile accident. You have a good idea what is going to happen and you still have to watch it. ::: shudder :::

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 6:38:17am

Aaaand the countdown to the excoriation of Cummings as ‘Establishment’ begins…

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SoundGuy 2016  May 28, 2016 • 6:40:44am

re: #184 Nyet

The BernieBro Lizard digs deeper:

I’ve been trying to find that for 10 minutes, my search fu not working.

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 6:40:54am

A female Bond? I’d be okay with that, so long as she still liked her martinis shaken and bedded hot women…and gadgets. There have to be gadgets.

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lawhawk  May 28, 2016 • 6:41:25am

re: #207 darthstar

Oh, the poor oppressed old white guy demographic. The ones who have enjoyed all manner of rights, whether it’s been voting, access to jobs or services, and free from discrimination on the basis of color.

They’re now oppressed? Really? Because everyone else is now entitled to the same rights they take for granted, these people simply can’t abide by the equality and justice under the law, so they’re throwing roadblocks up left and right.

Birth control access, abortion rights - those go to reducing rights for women across the board, all in an effort to get them back home, rather than in the workplace.

Voter ID, racial profiling, discrimination - those go to keeping minorities from climbing up the social ladder and advancing economically and socially.

Opposition to SSM, transgender rights, bathroom bills - all to keep a minority in the closet (literally and figuratively), while harming them economically and socially.

That’s the modern GOP.
That’s the right wing media drumbeat.

And that’s what Democrats are fighting to stop.

So when someone says the parties are all alike - that’s just so much BS.

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PhillyPretzel  May 28, 2016 • 6:41:52am

re: #214 darthstar

lol. Maybe it will.

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lawhawk  May 28, 2016 • 6:42:59am

re: #214 darthstar

A female Bond? I’d be okay with that, so long as she still liked her martinis shaken and bedded hot women…and gadgets. There have to be gadgets.

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I’m good with Idris Elba or Anderson, or anyone else who takes up the role if the story makes sense. Casino Royale was a great reboot/update. Skyfall was fun and had tons of backstory. But if you don’t do either well, then you’re left with a mess.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 6:45:35am

re: #213 SoundGuy 2016

At Dkos.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 6:47:41am

Obama would be a great Bond. Just sayin’.

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PhillyPretzel  May 28, 2016 • 6:48:58am

re: #219 Nyet

If he wants do something like that, it would be very interesting.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 6:49:31am

re: #214 darthstar

A female Bond? I’d be okay with that, so long as she still liked her martinis shaken and bedded hot women…and gadgets. There have to be gadgets.

I’ve got no problems with a female Bond, but Gillian is American-born, though she lived in the UK while growing up. British purists might want a UK-born actress.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 6:51:02am

I want to see Gillian Anderson play Fox Mulder.

/

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SoundGuy 2016  May 28, 2016 • 6:51:38am

Obama was the first president to jump out of an exploding helicopter on a skateboard with nunchucks. So there’s that.

Elba or Anderson would be excellent Bonds.

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 6:52:16am

re: #215 lawhawk

The point isn’t that old bigots like Buchanan are oppressed. The fact that the media feels they should be given a fair platform to resurrect their bigotry in the public space and that it is worthy of debate is what’s shocking.

On my way home from work I was listening to Chris Hayes and he had Ann Coulter on with Joy Reid. I caught the conversation mid-stream, but basically Joy was going off on how we don’t need to return to using arcane terminology for ethnic groups like Asian Americans…and Ann came back with “they’re Mandarins!” - I was all, “holy fuck! Did she just say Mandarins?” Why does Chris Hayes feel the need to give that kind of bigotry a platform? Because there’s so much shit on the table with Trump that everything is fair game.

Honestly, if Americans paused for a second and attributed this crap to the GOP, the Democrats could win 435 of the house seats in November.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 6:53:51am

Guillermo should play Bond.

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 6:54:10am

re: #223 SoundGuy 2016

Obama was the first president to jump out of an exploding helicopter on a skateboard with nunchucks. So there’s that.

Elba or Anderson would be excellent Bonds.

Over a shark.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 6:54:27am

re: #224 darthstar

The point isn’t that old bigots like Buchanan are oppressed. The fact that the media feels they should be given a fair platform to resurrect their bigotry in the public space and that it is worthy of debate is what’s shocking.

On my way home from work I was listening to Chris Hayes and he had Ann Coulter on with Joy Reid. I caught the conversation mid-stream, but basically Joy was going off on how we don’t need to return to using arcane terminology for ethnic groups like Asian Americans…and Ann came back with “they’re Mandarins!” - I was all, “holy fuck! Did she just say Mandarins?” Why does Chris Hayes feel the need to give that kind of bigotry a platform? Because there’s so much shit on the table with Trump that everything is fair game.

Honestly, if Americans paused for a second and attributed this crap to the GOP, the Democrats could win 435 of the house seats in November.

Mandarins? Man not only is Coulter a bigoted ass, she’s stupid.

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 6:56:14am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Mandarins? Man not only is Coulter a bigoted ass, she’s stupid.

She’s looking for a financial ‘in’ for this cycle. She made a lot of money peddling hate in Obama’s first five years, but she’s dropped off lately and wants to get back on the money train.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 6:57:46am

re: #224 darthstar

The point isn’t that old bigots like Buchanan are oppressed. The fact that the media feels they should be given a fair platform to resurrect their bigotry in the public space and that it is worthy of debate is what’s shocking.

On my way home from work I was listening to Chris Hayes and he had Ann Coulter on with Joy Reid. I caught the conversation mid-stream, but basically Joy was going off on how we don’t need to return to using arcane terminology for ethnic groups like Asian Americans…and Ann came back with “they’re Mandarins!” - I was all, “holy fuck! Did she just say Mandarins?” Why does Chris Hayes feel the need to give that kind of bigotry a platform? Because there’s so much shit on the table with Trump that everything is fair game.

Honestly, if Americans paused for a second and attributed this crap to the GOP, the Democrats could win 435 of the house seats in November.

Coulter is an idiot. A Mandarin, at least in China, would have been a member of the ruling classes, a high government bureaucrat. You can’t use it to refer to all Asians, or even all Chinese.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 6:58:34am

re: #228 darthstar

She’s looking for a financial ‘in’ for this cycle. She made a lot of money peddling hate in Obama’s first five years, but she’s dropped off lately and wants to get back on the money train.

She’ll get into the sexism game if Clinton is elected I figure. Phyilis Schalfry isn’t going to last forever..

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 6:58:49am

re: #226 darthstar

Over a shark.

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Without jumping it. Which makes the feat double awesome.

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 7:01:25am

But you can’t join the gym if you test positive for football.

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SoundGuy 2016  May 28, 2016 • 7:02:51am

re: #231 Nyet

Without jumping it. Which makes the feat double awesome.

Wait.. are you saying Obama jumped over a shark but without jumping the shark?

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 7:06:50am

I’m not afraid of getting brain cancer because I keep my phone in my pants pocket right next to my…oh dear.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 28, 2016 • 7:09:00am

re: #234 darthstar

I’m not afraid of getting brain cancer because I keep my phone in my pants pocket right next to my…oh dear.

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Kids these days should be getting thumb cancer, then.

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 7:09:58am

re: #224 darthstar

The point isn’t that old bigots like Buchanan are oppressed. The fact that the media feels they should be given a fair platform to resurrect their bigotry in the public space and that it is worthy of debate is what’s shocking.

On my way home from work I was listening to Chris Hayes and he had Ann Coulter on with Joy Reid. I caught the conversation mid-stream, but basically Joy was going off on how we don’t need to return to using arcane terminology for ethnic groups like Asian Americans…and Ann came back with “they’re Mandarins!” - I was all, “holy fuck! Did she just say Mandarins?” Why does Chris Hayes feel the need to give that kind of bigotry a platform? Because there’s so much shit on the table with Trump that everything is fair game.

Honestly, if Americans paused for a second and attributed this crap to the GOP, the Democrats could win 435 of the house seats in November.

Ann Coulter has been on MSNBC more and more lately. I think it is being mandated by the new overlords.

I caught that bit you describe. Ann was being a complete ass about it all and she just wanted to piss people off. She was laughing like she was getting under Joy Reid’s skin even though she wasn’t. Joy just maintained being factual while Ann maintained being a smarmy ass.

Trump has given a lot of cover for people to come out and say whatever the fuck they want. The TV media is feeding on it like never before because it is all some kind of weird reality show…The TRUMP® show.

I’ve seen some pretty strange new characters acting like political pundits on MSNBC. Tells me there is nothing good coming from them and the rest other than political train wreck creating and viewing. FOX has set the standard and the rest are diving to see if they can get lower for higher ratings.

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darthstar  May 28, 2016 • 7:10:05am

Okay, time to take the boy to the beach, then it’s off to Santa Cruz with the missus and her mom as we’re meeting some friends to do a little surfing down there. Enjoy your day everyone.

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Skip Intro  May 28, 2016 • 7:11:24am

re: #224 darthstar

Obviously Comcast, NBC’s owner, thinks Coulter adds value to their advertisement delivery products.

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sagehen  May 28, 2016 • 7:11:49am

re: #224 darthstar

The point isn’t that old bigots like Buchanan are oppressed. The fact that the media feels they should be given a fair platform to resurrect their bigotry in the public space and that it is worthy of debate is what’s shocking.

On my way home from work I was listening to Chris Hayes and he had Ann Coulter on with Joy Reid. I caught the conversation mid-stream, but basically Joy was going off on how we don’t need to return to using arcane terminology for ethnic groups like Asian Americans…and Ann came back with “they’re Mandarins!” - I was all, “holy fuck! Did she just say Mandarins?” Why does Chris Hayes feel the need to give that kind of bigotry a platform? Because there’s so much shit on the table with Trump that everything is fair game.

Honestly, if Americans paused for a second and attributed this crap to the GOP, the Democrats could win 435 of the house seats in November.

In case anyone’s forgotten, it was Pat Buchanan as a young campaign staffer for Nixon, who came up with the Southern Strategy in the first place.

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that…but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

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SoundGuy 2016  May 28, 2016 • 7:12:14am

Whose says Bernie Bros can’t occasionally be funny?

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 28, 2016 • 7:13:25am

Good morning Lizards from a very warm western NY.

But not quite this warm out…

I wonder if that rock over there is cooler?
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Skip Intro  May 28, 2016 • 7:14:06am

re: #237 darthstar

Okay, time to take the boy to the beach, then it’s off to Santa Cruz with the missus and her mom as we’re meeting some friends to do a little surfing down there. Enjoy your day everyone.

Be careful and don’t swallow the seawater. Santa Cruz has the most polluted sea water of any beach in CA.

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Belafon  May 28, 2016 • 7:16:47am

re: #210 darthstar

I’m sure we can stop watching any time we want.

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It’s not “we” we’re worried about. It’s the people who look up from their dinners come September that we’re worried about.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 28, 2016 • 7:23:02am

re: #234 darthstar

One really needs to look at the study to figure out what did they really test: Hell, using Bluetooth headsets exposes you to 2.4 GHz right there, whereas if you were just using a normal headset on a low frequency band (say, like AT&T’s Band 17, Verizon’s Band 13 and T-Mobile’s Band 12, all in the LTE 700 Mhz spectrum) would that have changed the study outcome?

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allegro  May 28, 2016 • 7:25:06am

re: #219 Nyet

Obama would be a great Bond. Just sayin’.

Or Daily Show host.

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SoundGuy 2016  May 28, 2016 • 7:30:49am

More bullets dipped in pig’s blood idiocy.

Sorry, World. USA has
bad stupids.

The irony is that the redneck jihadis are tacitly admitting they believe in islam because they actually think muslims are going to go to hell… but they were going to hell anyway because they’re not christian…

Or they’re doing this all because they’re 12 year old children.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 7:32:21am

re: #246 SoundGuy 2016

Clinical idiots.

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 7:36:31am

Chutzpah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 7:37:03am
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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 7:39:52am

re: #1 No Depression

From downstairs:

MULTIPLE CHOICE

Bernie Sanders is:

A. Insane
B. Nihilistic
C. Stumping for Trump
D. All of the Above

E. Rand Paul

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Timothy Watson  May 28, 2016 • 7:42:17am

re: #246 SoundGuy 2016

More bullets dipped in pig’s blood idiocy.

Sorry, World. USA has
bad stupids.

The irony is that the redneck jihadis are tacitly admitting they believe in islam because they actually think muslims are going to go to hell… but they were going to hell anyway because they’re not christian…

Or they’re doing this all because they’re 12 year old children.

It’s nice to know that rednecks know nothing about gun maintenance, so even if they bother to “revolt” most of their firearms won’t work.

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 7:47:35am

re: #246 SoundGuy 2016

More bullets dipped in pig’s blood idiocy.

Sorry, World. USA has
bad stupids.

The irony is that the redneck jihadis are tacitly admitting they believe in islam because they actually think muslims are going to go to hell… but they were going to hell anyway because they’re not christian…

Or they’re doing this all because they’re 12 year old children.

They’re doing it as a way to show off how “Politically Incorrect” they are. Avante-Garde artists used to say that one of their objective was to “shock the bourgeoisie”. This pack also sees themselves as a “advance guard”* and one of their objectives is to “Shock the Social Justice Warriors”. What they don’t care enough to understand is that videos like theirs serve to swell the ranks of Daesh and Al-Qaeda more than their own. They fit Radical Islamist “WAR AGAINST ISLAM!!1” rhetoric perfectly.

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 7:50:24am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

*: Those nuts are the advance guard of the (fictional) 1116th Texas Pick-Up Truck Cavalry. Feel free to suggest nicknames, my own nomination is “The Brownsville Bigots”.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 28, 2016 • 7:56:54am

re: #239 sagehen

In case anyone’s forgotten, it was Pat Buchanan as a young campaign staffer for Nixon, who came up with the Southern Strategy in the first place.

It goes back a few years earlier than that. Goldwater won Dixie in ‘64 based on his opposition to the Civil Rights Act.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 7:59:15am
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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 7:59:34am

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

So DF, hopefully you haven’t been warming up to Trump?

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 8:00:55am

re: #248 Alyosha

Chutzpah.

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Oh really.

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:03:28am

re: #254 Big Beautiful Door

It goes back a few years earlier than that. Goldwater won Dixie in ‘64 based on his opposition to the Civil Rights Act.

More that Johnson lost the Deep South for having pushed the law through. Johnson still won Texas (his home state), Arkansas, Florida (the lower 40% of which was no longer really ‘southern’ by 1964), and the ‘Upper South’ former Confederate states of North Carolina, Virginia, and Tennessee. Most of the Deep South voters who pulled the lever for Barry Goldwater still didn’t really like the Republican Party in 1964.

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:05:44am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Olberman vs. Trump: May the loudest mouth win.

For those about to DERP, I salute you.

/(groan) 5 more months of this shit.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 28, 2016 • 8:06:51am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

More that Johnson lost the Deep South for having pushed the law through. Johnson still won Texas (his home state), Arkansas, Florida (the lower 40% of which was no longer really ‘southern’ by 1964), and the ‘Upper South’ former Confederate states of North Carolina, Virginia, and Tennessee. Most of the Deep South voters who pulled the lever for Barry Goldwater still didn’t really like the Republican Party in 1964.

True enough, it was just the initial step which caused the GOP to realize the electoral gold mine available to them by pursuing the Southern Strategy. Fifty years later, its still paying dividends except in Presidential elections.

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:07:04am

re: #256 Nyet

So DF, hopefully you haven’t been warming up to Trump?

No, but Hillary Clinton’s mendacity angered me a good deal this week. Not just the email thing, either.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 28, 2016 • 8:08:02am

re: #261 Dark_Falcon

No, but Hillary Clinton’s mendacity angered me a good deal this week. Not just the email thing, either.

Thinking about pulling the lever for Gary Johnson?

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 8:08:20am

re: #261 Dark_Falcon

No, but

I see.

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MsJ  May 28, 2016 • 8:08:44am

re: #261 Dark_Falcon

No, but Hillary Clinton’s mendacity angered me a good deal this week. Not just the email thing, either.

What are you referring to?

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:08:54am

re: #260 Big Beautiful Door

True enough, it was just the initial step which caused the GOP to realize the electoral gold mine available to them by pursuing the Southern Strategy. Fifty years later, its still paying dividends except in Presidential elections.

I understand, its just that the Southern Strategy was Nixon’s tactic and not Goldwater’s. It’s enough of a distinction to be worth noting, t’is all.

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:10:00am

re: #263 Nyet

I see.

You think that was a negating ‘but’? It wasn’t though. Not yet at least.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 8:12:51am

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

Not yet

OK.

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:13:35am

re: #264 MsJ

What are you referring to?

This and this.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 28, 2016 • 8:14:00am

re: #265 Dark_Falcon

I understand, its just that the Southern Strategy was Nixon’s tactic and not Goldwater’s. It’s enough of a distinction to be worth noting, t’is all.

I doubt that Goldwater didn’t take into consideration the opportunity presented to him to pick up traditionally Democratic southern states by opposing the Civil Rights Act, even if he was primarily motivated by principle rather than political calculation.

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sagehen  May 28, 2016 • 8:14:43am

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

You think that was a negating ‘but’? It wasn’t though. Not yet at least.

You do realize that none of us will be the least bit surprised when you turn into a Trump partisan. You’ll even have whole paragraphs worth of explanation why it’s the principled choice, the reasonable choice, the rational choice…

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Jenner7  May 28, 2016 • 8:15:06am

Good morning, Lizards.

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 8:16:44am

Romanticists…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 8:18:26am

good grief…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 8:19:59am

re: #271 Jenner7

Good morning, Lizards.

Trump will stop being a racist tyrant when he’s the nominee ✘

☐ when he annexes Austria and Czechoslovakia

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 8:21:03am

and his apologist fans just love this nonsense…

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 8:22:00am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

This and this.

You might want to read the Newsweek article linked earlier regarding all that email crap.

Here is the link again. Newsweek - Opinion - THE SCANDAL OVER CLINTON’S EMAILS STILL ISN’T A SCANDAL

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 8:22:20am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

and his apologist fans just love this nonsense…

Nice country you’ve got there. Be a shame if something should happen to it.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 28, 2016 • 8:22:30am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

and his apologist fans just love this nonsense…

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Is it any wonder world leaders are rattled? Trump wants to run the US defense department like a protection racket. “Nice little country you have there. Be a shame if something happened to it.”

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Big Beautiful Door  May 28, 2016 • 8:22:46am

re: #277 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Nice country you’ve got there. Be a shame if something should happen to it.

Beat me to it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 8:23:16am

re: #279 Big Beautiful Door

Beat me to it.

Great minds, and all that

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Timothy Watson  May 28, 2016 • 8:26:40am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

and his apologist fans just love this nonsense…

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Uh, what? And who are these 69 countries? Did he just pull that number directly out of his ass?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 8:28:03am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 8:28:34am

re: #281 Timothy Watson

Uh, what? And who are these 69 countries? Did he just pull that number directly out of his ass?

I’d assume it includes all the NATO members, as well as some in ASEAN and others, besides. But I’d betcha he wouldn’t be able to name but four or five of them.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 8:29:13am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nice, you can wrap up your military bases and go then. /

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 8:29:14am

re: #281 Timothy Watson

Uh, what? And who are these 69 countries? Did he just pull that number directly out of his ass?

It’s where he gets a lot of his facts.

There and places like Alex Jones, Breitbart and others.

Oh that’s right, they are all akin to pulling facts out of their asses.

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sagehen  May 28, 2016 • 8:30:23am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

and his apologist fans just love this nonsense…

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Has he published a price-list for the tribute he’ll demand?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 8:34:03am

re: #286 sagehen

Has he published a price-list for the tribute he’ll demand?

Not yet, but it’ll be classy. The best ever.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 28, 2016 • 8:34:34am

re: #286 sagehen

Has he published a price-list for the tribute he’ll demand?

Details, details. That will be the Vice-President’s job. President Trump’s job will be tweeting.

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Lidane  May 28, 2016 • 8:38:06am
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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:38:10am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The P-47 was built to stand up to a lot of punishment. In battle they routinely survived multiple hits from 20mm cannons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 8:38:30am

Alert for Peaky Blinders fans:

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stpaulbear  May 28, 2016 • 8:38:47am

re: #286 sagehen

Has he published a price-list for the tribute he’ll demand?

re: #288 Big Beautiful Door

Details, details. That will be the Vice-President’s job. President Trump’s job will be tweeting.

I wish this was still funny.

On the day that Hillary is elected, the whole world is going to cry in relief.

If she doesn’t get elected, we’re toast.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2016 • 8:39:49am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

and his apologist fans just love this nonsense…

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In other words he’s asking “Who will defend the bullies?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2016 • 8:42:03am

If Trump becomes President he oughta send Bernie a Thank You card.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 28, 2016 • 8:42:54am

re: #215 lawhawk

So when someone says the parties are all alike - that’s just so much BS.

When it comes to taking banks and multinationals to task for the damage they are doing our economy and society, then there is little daylight between the two. But there are also the social issues to consider. And the GOP is out to roll back all the gains we have come to take for granted in women’s, minority and LGBT rights, as well as continuing the ongoing decline in consumer protection and labor rights.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 8:43:51am

re: #270 sagehen

Like Little Marco Rubio did.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 28, 2016 • 8:44:39am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alert for Peaky Blinders fans:

Started watching the first season of PB’s and got rather drawn into it for the historical context, including young Winston Churchill as a character.

I really liked the soundtrack save for finding it often somewhat incongruous and not really befitting the era they were portraying

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:45:11am

re: #292 stpaulbear

I wish this was still funny.

On the day that Hillary is elected, the whole world is going to cry in relief.

If she doesn’t get elected, we’re toast.

America survived Woodrow Wilson, it can survive Donald Trump (or Hillary Clinton). Doesn’t mean it will, but it can.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 28, 2016 • 8:45:41am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

This and this.

Oh, bullshit. Like you actually care. It’s all just the letter after her name to you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 28, 2016 • 8:46:56am

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

America survived Woodrow Wilson, it can survive Donald Trump (or Hillary Clinton). Doesn’t mean it will, but it can.

I have a buddy who is a real Machiavellian political cynic. His attitude is simply that America is crumbling, so we might as well elect DT an hit bottom that much sooner so we can start to rebuild…

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Big Beautiful Door  May 28, 2016 • 8:47:12am

re: #292 stpaulbear

I wish this was still funny.

On the day that Hillary is elected, the whole world is going to cry in relief.

If she doesn’t get elected, we’re toast.

You are right. I feel like the Comedian in Watchmen watching the world go to Hell.

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 8:47:40am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg
‘Some people just want to see the….’

I suppose… the Joker just threatened Gotham.

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:48:17am

re: #299 Blind Frog Belly White

Your demeaning comment has been noted: -1.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 28, 2016 • 8:49:15am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I have a buddy who is a real Machiavellian political cynic. His attitude is simply that America is crumbling, so we might as well elect DT an hit bottom that much sooner so we can start to rebuild…

He’s wrong, America isn’t crumbling. But the planet might not survive President Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 8:49:34am

O_o

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 28, 2016 • 8:51:11am

re: #302 Alyosha

‘Some people just want to see the….’

Embedded Image

I suppose… the Joker just threatened Gotham.

“Why so serious, son?”

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 8:51:42am

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

America survived Woodrow Wilson, it can survive Donald Trump (or Hillary Clinton). Doesn’t mean it will, but it can.

Nice…you just managed to put Trump as an equal to Clinton. I figure that makes it easier to accept him since they are just the same and they are as capable of making a mess of this country as any bad politician.

Plus you have some new Marco shade to stand in now too.

It’s all working out!

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Stanley Sea  May 28, 2016 • 8:52:22am

re: #271 Jenner7

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Good morning, Lizards.

Dude called out the San Diego judge overseeing his university scam trial as a bad Mexican.

he is insane.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 28, 2016 • 8:52:41am

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

Your demeaning comment has been noted: -1.

Your downding was immediately nullified.

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stpaulbear  May 28, 2016 • 8:53:07am

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

Doesn’t mean it will, but it can.

It is completely moronic to be willing to take a chance like that.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 8:53:44am

Waiting for Lyin Ted’s groveling.

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No Depression  May 28, 2016 • 8:53:54am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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I wish I could say that’s the most offensive thing he’s done this week.

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BeachDem  May 28, 2016 • 8:53:57am

re: #228 darthstar

She’s looking for a financial ‘in’ for this cycle. She made a lot of money peddling hate in Obama’s first five years, but she’s dropped off lately and wants to get back on the money train.

And it’s MSNBC that seems to be breathing new life into her ghoulish shrieking. Sigh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 28, 2016 • 8:54:28am

re: #307 ObserverArt

Nice…you just managed to put Trump as an equal to Clinton. I figure that makes it easier to accept him since they are just the same and they are as capable of making a mess of this country as any bad politician.

Plus you have some new Marco shade to stand in now too.

It’s all working out!

Well, you know, Both Sides Do It.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 8:55:45am
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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 8:56:11am

re: #306 Blind Frog Belly White

“Why so serious, son?”

‘It’s not like Trump will be able to enact his horrific policies…’

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 8:56:21am

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

Your demeaning comment has been noted: -1.

Spare us the drama. It pales in the light of the facts in this election and how the GOP put an R in front of the name of a complete ass so people could excuse themselves for voting for what could be the worst political mistake the party, their supporters and others in this country may make.

A little use of the word bullshit is nothing. The party is actually full of the real thing.

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stpaulbear  May 28, 2016 • 8:56:50am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Shut. Him. Down. NOW.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 8:57:53am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s all downhill from here.

Mindless Self Indulgence “Joke”

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 8:58:28am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Bernie thinks he’s going to get black people in his corner by playing that drek. What a Maroon, what an ignoramus. If there’s a song that goes against the slogan “Black Lives Matter”, its a song wherein black man are killed for being gay.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 8:58:54am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

One is a master debater, the other is a loyal Dem.

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 9:02:08am

Oh goodie…I gots me a downding from Dark_Falcon. All for saying spare us the drama. Must be touching a nerve.

Now that is real drama…that means absolutely nothing to me. No. Thing.

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 9:03:16am

re: #321 Nyet

One is a master debater, the other is a loyal Dem.

One is a long-time outspoken progressive, whose rumpled appearance contrasts with his expansive knowledge of the banking sector, whose career was crowned by finance reform.
The other is Bernie Sanders.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 9:03:30am

Well, you lizards play nice with each other. Grandpa is going to take a nice long nap.

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BeachDem  May 28, 2016 • 9:05:00am

re: #287 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Not yet, but it’ll be classy. The best ever.

You’ll be back like before
I will fight the fight and win the war
For your love, for your praise
And I’ll love you till my dying days
When you’re gone, I’ll go mad
So don’t throw away this thing we had
Cuz when push comes to shove
I will kill your friends and family to remind you of my love

You’ll Be Back

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 9:06:41am

re: #322 ObserverArt

The downding was misplaced and swiftly withdrawn.

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 9:11:23am

Ruddy annoyed with that git, Sanders if it wasn’t obvious.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2016 • 9:11:50am

There goes Bernie making demands of a party he doesn’t actually belong to.

Sanders to DNC: Remove Clinton backers from platform committee

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 9:13:39am

I swear it must be something in the water out on SoCal campuses because this week gave us both of these bizarre stories:

Milo Yiannopoulos Literally Carried Into UCSB Event on a Throne While Blasting ‘America F*** Yeah!’

That one made me want to vomit, the other one made me laugh scornfully:

College Officials Bemoan How ‘Neo-Nazi’ Ben Shapiro’s Speech Left Students ‘Brutalized’

Lord love a duck!

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Stanley Sea  May 28, 2016 • 9:13:57am

re: #325 BeachDem

You’ll be back like before
I will fight the fight and win the war
For your love, for your praise
And I’ll love you till my dying days
When you’re gone, I’ll go mad
So don’t throw away this thing we had
Cuz when push comes to shove
I will kill your friends and family to remind you of my love

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Video

Love it.

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stpaulbear  May 28, 2016 • 9:16:48am
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Dr. Matt  May 28, 2016 • 9:17:01am

And he doesn’t have twitter or facebook to brag about being there…

*sad trombone*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 9:17:46am

re: #332 Dr. Matt

And he doesn’t have twitter or facebook to brag about being there…

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*sad trombone*

does he still have Instagram?

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stpaulbear  May 28, 2016 • 9:18:11am

I hate to think what stupid shit Donald Trump is going to say on Memorial Day.

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Dr. Matt  May 28, 2016 • 9:21:11am

re: #334 stpaulbear

I hate to think what stupid shit Donald Trump is going to say on Memorial Day.

He could take a dump on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and his approval rating among the far right would shoot up 6 points.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 28, 2016 • 9:21:17am

re: #316 Alyosha

‘It’s not like Trump will be able to enact his horrific policies…’

That’s McConnell’s new line, since his dream of a contested convention fell through.

But if Trump is elected, I expect the GOP will hold the Senate and the House, and we’ve seen how completely the Tea Party controls the House GOP Caucus. I suspect the Senate will fall in line, so that rather than forming any kind of obstacle to whatever a President Trump wants to do, Congress will simply grease the skids.

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wrenchwench  May 28, 2016 • 9:21:45am

re: #192 Dave In Austin

Good article…. And I agree wholeheartedly.
huffingtonpost.com

Thanks for posting that!

I have almost achieved ‘gray ponytail’ a year and a half after my visit to the Intensive Hair Unit. The front strands are weeks away from being caught in the hairtie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 9:22:24am

jeebus…

Bernie Sanders says it would be a “terrible idea” for Democrats to recruit Vice President Joe Biden to run for president if Hillary Clinton is forced out of the race.

“I think that would be a terrible, terrible idea,” Sanders said Friday in an interview with The Young Turks, a pro-Sanders online news show.

“That would say to the millions of people who have supported us, that have worked with us, that would say all of your energy, all of your votes, all of your beliefs are irrelevant. We’re going to bring in someone else,” Sanders said.

“I happen to like Joe a lot, but I think that would be a very, very serious blunder for the Democratic Party,” he added.

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Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2016 • 9:26:41am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…

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The Ego has landed…

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 9:28:52am

Dear Bernie Sanders.

We have already identified the very serious blunder the Democratic party made.

Thank you for your continued concern.

However at this time the party is cutting ties to your political consulting firm.

We wish you luck in the future. Enjoy your independent status.

An Established Democratic Party Supporter.

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jaunte  May 28, 2016 • 9:29:53am
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No Country For Old Haters  May 28, 2016 • 9:30:31am

re: #296 Nyet

Like Little Marco Rubio did.

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 9:31:50am

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

He may be a fascist (Kahanism is a form of fascism), but neo-Nazi he is not.

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Alyosha  May 28, 2016 • 9:33:35am

Jebus fuck, I’m going to bed.

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Stanley Sea  May 28, 2016 • 9:33:59am

Dark:

Saying that we can survive 4 years of trump same as we can survive 4 years of Hillary is based in bullshit.

trump is like nothing we’ve seen since Wallace, McCarthy & Fr. Coughlin. To just take a chance on him is flat out dangerous.

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No Depression  May 28, 2016 • 9:34:45am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…

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Fuck you too, Bernie.

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Skip Intro  May 28, 2016 • 9:35:22am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

and his apologist fans just love this nonsense…

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When Trump is pres, he’ll insist on confiscating all of their golf courses and renaming them all after HE, Trump.

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Snarknado!  May 28, 2016 • 9:38:06am

re: #337 wrenchwench

Thanks for posting that!

I have almost achieved ‘gray ponytail’ a year and a half after my visit to the Intensive Hair Unit. The front strands are weeks away from being caught in the hairtie.

I hear a lot of comments on my hair, but don’t recall any that were disapproving. I’m in the right age group, and my hair is very long (I can sit on the braid)… but it’s not gray yet, except on top. Maybe that makes it still okay?

(Get used to it, world — I have no plans to cut my hair, even if someday it’s white as snow.)

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No Country For Old Haters  May 28, 2016 • 9:38:56am

re: #345 Stanley Sea

Dark:

Saying that we can survive 4 years of trump same as we can survive 4 years of Hillary is based in bullshit.

trump is like nothing we’ve seen since Wallace, McCarthy & Fr. Coughlin. To just take a chance on him is flat out dangerous.

But he has an (R) after his name, so by default he starts as a much better candidate than any (D) to anyone who couldn’t resist Conservative propaganda. If Trump ate a baby on live TV, Republicans might vote for Clinton, but it’s more likely that they’d rationalize some way to consider baby-eating to be a conservative value that must be protected against the PC Liberals.

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Skip Intro  May 28, 2016 • 9:39:56am

re: #349 No Country For Old Haters

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 9:40:27am

re: #344 Alyosha

Shaun King is an idiot.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 28, 2016 • 9:40:31am

re: #349 No Country For Old Haters

But he has an (R) after his name, so by default he starts as a much better candidate than any (D) to anyone who couldn’t resist Conservative propaganda. If Trump ate a baby on live TV, Republicans might vote for Clinton, but it’s more likely that they’d rationalize some way to consider baby-eating to be a conservative value that must be protected against the PC Liberals.

He’d have to eat a pre-term fetus. You know the GOP doesn’t care about The Born.

wish I were //

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 9:41:05am

Moreover, Shaun King is a harmful idiot because he’s trying to tear down the de facto D nominee.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 28, 2016 • 9:41:39am

re: #351 Nyet

Shaun King is an idiot.

Amazing how quickly he burned through any good karma he had coming out of his work on BLM, isn’t it?

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Nyet  May 28, 2016 • 9:43:13am

re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White

And all his time was marred by scandals. Some of which might have had legs, if we listen to McKesson and Elzie. That is, he is in no position to tear down Hillary.

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No Country For Old Haters  May 28, 2016 • 9:44:47am

re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White

Amazing how quickly he burned through any good karma he had coming out of his work on BLM, isn’t it?

He came across as someone who wanted to make the world a better place, then he came off as a self-promoter, then he eventually made himself a complete clown, but without the funny.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2016 • 9:46:54am

re: #356 No Country For Old Haters

He came across as someone who wanted to make the world a better place, then he came off as a self-promoter, then he eventually made himself a complete clown, but without the funny.

So basically he’s now the progressive version of Glenn Beck?

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Eventual Carrion  May 28, 2016 • 9:46:57am

re: #59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Ha, that’s the song I was singing in my head when I read that too.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 28, 2016 • 9:51:04am

re: #357 Eclectic Cyborg

So basically he’s now the progressive version of Glenn Beck?

Yes-but without the cable network or internet presence (thank dog.)

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MsJ  May 28, 2016 • 9:51:33am

re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White

Amazing how quickly he burned through any good karma he had coming out of his work on BLM, isn’t it?

I think he did that when he made funny with the money with that outfit Deray was involved with. Deray isn’t an asshole. Shaun King is.

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2016 • 9:53:15am
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wrenchwench  May 28, 2016 • 9:54:36am

re: #348 Snarknado!

I hear a lot of comments on my hair, but don’t recall any that were disapproving. I’m in the right age group, and my hair is very long (I can sit on the braid)… but it’s not gray yet, except on top. Maybe that makes it still okay?

(Get used to it, world — I have no plans to cut my hair, even if someday it’s white as snow.)

Mine was more of a mix of brown and gray, until they cut the brown portions off. I should be happy that it’s more of a uniform color now, even when the color says ‘old’.

‘Sit on the braid’ is looooong! Mine was ‘untuck the braid after you tuck in the shirt’ length.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2016 • 9:55:30am

re: #359 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yes-but without the cable network or internet presence (thank dog.)

I wonder if he’ll start popping up on the Young Turks (hopefully not)

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Snarknado!  May 28, 2016 • 9:56:40am

re: #362 wrenchwench

Mine was more of a mix of brown and gray, until they cut the brown portions off. I should be happy that it’s more of a uniform color now, even when the color says ‘old’.

‘Sit on the braid’ is looooong! Mine was ‘untuck the braid after you tuck in the shirt’ length.

Maybe that’s it — they’re too awestruck to be disapproving. :)

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wrenchwench  May 28, 2016 • 9:59:27am

re: #364 Snarknado!

Maybe that’s it — they’re too awestruck to be disapproving. :)

Plus they figure you could use it on them like a rope, if so motivated. :)

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Belafon  May 28, 2016 • 9:59:46am

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

America survived Woodrow Wilson, it can survive Donald Trump (or Hillary Clinton). Doesn’t mean it will, but it can.

America survived Wilson in the same way a body survives meningitis. We were seriously damaged and are still trying to recover. Your statement is the ultimate in white male privilege.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 28, 2016 • 9:59:53am

re: #363 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if he’ll start popping up on the Young Turks (hopefully not)

Doubtful-after this run, he’ll probably be let go and will slither into insignificance.

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jaunte  May 28, 2016 • 10:02:30am
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Great White Snark  May 28, 2016 • 10:04:42am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 28, 2016 • 10:05:53am

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

America survived Woodrow Wilson, it can survive Donald Trump (or Hillary Clinton). Doesn’t mean it will, but it can.

Surviving Hillary (who is more predictable) is a lot more palatable than surviving Trump (who is not.)

Remember, the US doesn’t exist in a vacuum-what we do has serious global impacts.

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Stanley Sea  May 28, 2016 • 10:07:11am

Got a new car.

24 hour turnover. Delivered to my house.

My goodness! n :)

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makeitstop  May 28, 2016 • 10:08:25am

re: #371 Stanley Sea

Got a new car.

24 hour turnover. Delivered to my house.

My goodness! n :)

[throws virtual change into Stanley’s back seat]

Congrats and good luck! Enjoy the new car smell. :)

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Belafon  May 28, 2016 • 10:08:56am

re: #369 Great White Snark

In the same way that Trump is the logical outcome of Republican choices over the last 40 years, Trump is also the logical outcome of media choices over the last 40 years.

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wrenchwench  May 28, 2016 • 10:10:12am

I look forward to entertainment:

That’s Gary Johnson, a some-time Republican, currently a Libertarian hopeful.

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jaunte  May 28, 2016 • 10:12:29am
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jaunte  May 28, 2016 • 10:14:01am

Women wearing pants; the beginning of the end of Great America!!!

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Great White Snark  May 28, 2016 • 10:15:18am

I’d not confuse any faith in the institutional checks on power vis a vis Trump with voting decisions. AFAIK if he wins, watch the VP pick, cause the VP will run as an incumbent for the big office in 4 short years. Trump will be gone by his own inept hand.

re: #373 Belafon

In the same way that Trump is the logical outcome of Republican choices over the last 40 years, Trump is also the logical outcome of media choices over the last 40 years.

Quite so, and Trump stands on a foundation built on the largest cross party popular mistake of my life time. The “anything but Bush V Clinton” feeling that came out in the primary votes. The party membership voted in two candidates with the highest negatives in modern American history. The trifecta of fucking up 2016. I don’t think we voters escape blame entirely.

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No Depression  May 28, 2016 • 10:16:53am

re: #374 wrenchwench

I look forward to entertainment:

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That’s Gary Johnson, a some-time Republican, currently a Libertarian hopeful.

I’m ashamed to admit that I wasted my first presidential vote on that guy. I know better now.

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Romantic Heretic  May 28, 2016 • 10:17:04am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

Translated: Nice place ya got here. Shame if something happened to it.

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Romantic Heretic  May 28, 2016 • 10:18:27am

re: #277 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Nice country you’ve got there. Be a shame if something should happen to it.

Great minds think alike.

Fools seldom differ.

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Romantic Heretic  May 28, 2016 • 10:19:47am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good. I was afraid it would be wrecked beyond repair.

Is the pilot okay?

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makeitstop  May 28, 2016 • 10:20:43am

re: #381 Romantic Heretic

Good. I was afraid it would be wrecked beyond repair.

Is the pilot okay?

Sadly, the pilot did not survive.

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Snarknado!  May 28, 2016 • 10:21:35am

re: #377 Great White Snark

I have to say, I still think Hillary Clinton is a good choice for President, “high negatives” or no.

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wrenchwench  May 28, 2016 • 10:22:20am

re: #378 No Depression

I’m ashamed to admit that I wasted my first presidential vote on that guy. I know better now.

I blew one on Ralph Nader. Live and learn.

We are able to improve with time. :)

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Eventual Carrion  May 28, 2016 • 10:23:10am

re: #130 retired cynic

We’ve VurSAYLZ, and MarSAYLZ, and KAYRO and BERlin and gosh knows how many more in Illinois.

In PA we have Blue Ball and Intercourse. More people get them correct than remember to add the “h” to Pittsburgh.

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Romantic Heretic  May 28, 2016 • 10:24:13am

re: #301 Big Beautiful Door

You are right. I feel like the Comedian in Watchmen watching the world go to Hell.

What happened to the American Dream? It came true! You’re looking at it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 28, 2016 • 10:25:19am

re: #385 Eventual Carrion

In PA we have Blue Ball and Intercourse. More people get them correct than remember to add the “h” to Pittsburgh.

We also have a VurSAYLZ. It’s near Pissburgh, n’at.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 28, 2016 • 10:29:43am

What I learned on twitter today:

“Barney Frank has always been a conservative”

*blink*

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Great White Snark  May 28, 2016 • 10:31:19am

re: #383 Snarknado!

I have to say, I still think Hillary Clinton is a good choice for President, “high negatives” or no.

That may very well be so, but the point is parties and winning vs losing strategy and tactics. High negatives make it a tougher win. A closer run. That means the candidates goals are far more compromised to get the win. The mandate if existent at all is weak. Against a recalcitrant congress.

You know what would be worse than a clear win either way? A tenth of a point win by either in a couple big states. That is the most dangerous scenario for us in my inexpert view. Trump V Clinton in SCOTUS like Gore v Bush. Oh please no more really close ones!!!! That way lies massive street violence this time.

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No Depression  May 28, 2016 • 10:31:50am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

What I learned on twitter today:

“Barney Frank has always been a conservative”

*blink*

LOL he’s done more to rein in Wall Street than Sanders has ever had.

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Romantic Heretic  May 28, 2016 • 10:32:13am
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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 10:33:21am

re: #366 Belafon

Germany survived Hitler and Japan survived Hirohito as well. It only took Germany nearly fifty years to re-unify and a couple dozen to rebuild, and Japan is still under occupation, but yeah, I suppose we could survive Trump (assuming someone doesn’t pre-emptively turn our country into radioactive ash first).

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 10:35:32am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

What I learned on twitter today:

“Barney Frank has always been a conservative”

*blink*

Lol wut? Oh and they’re mad that Frank and Malloy have been stauch advocates of Clinton? Well shit so has West for Bernie. Bernie’s campaign really is doing its damndest through their own sense of self-righteous sense of self to discredit progressivism and I hope like hell they fail.

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 10:35:44am

re: #377 Great White Snark

I’d not confuse any faith in the institutional checks on power vis a vis Trump with voting decisions. AFAIK if he wins, watch the VP pick, cause the VP will run as an incumbent for the big office in 4 short years. Trump will be gone by his own inept hand.

Quite so, and Trump stands on a foundation built on the largest cross party popular mistake of my life time. The “anything but Bush V Clinton” feeling that came out in the primary votes. The party membership voted in two candidates with the highest negatives in modern American history. The trifecta of fucking up 2016. I don’t think we voters escape blame entirely.

We? You might want to add a big old “in my opinion” in there. Not everyone shares your concerns in the same way.

I won’t speak fro anyone else…but I don’t think she has any more negatives than the Bushes had or Reagan. It could be argued she has less. She does have more media coverage of all her issues than just about any politician ever had.

The Clintons invented political talk radio and FOX news. And they have been hammered by it ever since. And it just seems people have let that cloud their thinking ever since. And yet here she is. 25 years of being buried by bull and she wants to run for president.

Couldn’t that be considered admirable? Yes, if you want to see it that way.

Or, you can just go with the very well-worn shit that sticks. Make 25 years of Clinton hater methods legit.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 10:36:37am

re: #390 No Depression

LOL he’s done more to rein in Wall Street than Sanders has ever had.

Because Barney Frank was a legislator. Not to be confused with being the left’s Ron Paul which is what Bernie has been.

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Romantic Heretic  May 28, 2016 • 10:37:30am

re: #382 makeitstop

Sadly, the pilot did not survive.

Crap. :(

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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 10:37:49am

re: #394 ObserverArt

We? You might want to add a big old “in my opinion” in there. Not everyone shares your concerns in the same way.

The Clintons invented political talk radio and FOX news. And they have been hammered by it ever since. And it just seems people have let that cloud their thinking ever since. And yet here she is. 25 years of being buried by bull and she wants to run for president.

And here I thought it was Nixon’s idea for “GOP TV” and Reagan’s repudiation of the Fairness Doctrine. Who knew it was really the Clintons? Did they borrow Obama’s Time Machine?

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 10:40:03am

re: #397 Anymouse

And here I thought it was Nixon’s idea for “GOP TV” and Reagan’s repudiation of the Fairness Doctrine. Who knew it was really the Clintons? Did they borrow Obama’s Time Machine?

Artistic license! No time machine needed.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 10:41:09am

I am sorry but you cannot not name West to the platform committee and then complain about Barney fucking Frank.

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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 10:42:17am

washingtonpost.com

Richard Nixon’s and Roger Ailes’s plan to put the GOP on television.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 10:45:48am

re: #400 Anymouse

washingtonpost.com

Richard Nixon’s and Roger Ailes’s plan to put the GOP on television.

All roads lead back to Nixon.

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No Depression  May 28, 2016 • 10:50:20am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Because Barney Frank was a legislator. Not to be confused with being the left’s Ron Paul which is what Bernie has been.

I know right. Barney Frank sponsors and passes landmark legislation. Bernie Sanders tacks on amendments and renames post offices.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 10:51:58am

re: #402 No Depression

I know right. Barney Frank sponsors and passes landmark legislation. Bernie Sanders tacks on amendments and renames post offices.

I’m actually pretty amazed with how unremarkable Sanders’ actual legislating record really is.

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Great White Snark  May 28, 2016 • 10:53:36am

re: #394 ObserverArt

We? You might want to add a big old “in my opinion” in there. Not everyone shares your concerns in the same way.

I won’t speak fro anyone else…but I don’t think she has any more negatives than the Bushes had or Reagan. It could be argued she has less. She does have more media coverage of all her issues than just about any politician ever had.

The Clintons invented political talk radio and FOX news. And they have been hammered by it ever since. And it just seems people have let that cloud their thinking ever since. And yet here she is. 25 years of being buried by bull and she wants to run for president.

Couldn’t that be considered admirable? Yes, if you want to see it that way.

Or, you can just go with the very well-worn shit that sticks. Make 25 years of Clinton hater methods legit.

The high negatives are acknowledged by her own side of the aisle in terms of the political experts, far more experienced than you or I. Relatively high negatives are a fact. One that can be overcome but more factual than mere opinion. High negatives as measure by actual polls. Well at this point, actual primaries. Sanders should have, would have never been close.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 10:56:39am

Honestly, I’ve noticed a trend between the noted progressives like John Lewis, Barney Frank, Dolores Huerta, and Barbara Boxer that I’ve found out aren’t real progressives. None are heterosexual white males, the building block of Bernie’s coalition and people who actually know a thing or two about discrimination.

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No Depression  May 28, 2016 • 11:02:08am

re: #405 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I’ve noticed a trend between the noted progressives like John Lewis, Barney Frank, Dolores Huerta, and Barbara Boxer that I’ve found out aren’t real progressives. None are heterosexual white males, the building block of Bernie’s coalition and people who actually know a thing or two about discrimination.

That’s because they’re identitarians, not real progressives. Or at least that’s what Twitter Bolsheviks tell me.

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Charles Johnson  May 28, 2016 • 11:05:09am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

This and this.

So you got upset about Hillary Clinton based on a pro-gun NRA shill’s hit piece and another idiotic story about the email fake scandal. Maybe one day you’ll notice how these people are manipulating you.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 11:06:58am

re: #406 No Depression

That’s because they’re identitarians, not real progressives. Or at least that’s what Twitter Bolsheviks tell me.

Yeah I have heard that it’s selfish of these demos to put value their issues before THE REVOLUTION.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 11:10:43am

So Bernie’s saying Trump chickened out of the debate. You know what, I don’t like Trump but the fact of the matter is Trump played Bernie like a fucking fiddle here. He knew Bernie would bite at the possibility of debating him even though there’s no precedent whatsoever to match this.

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 11:12:01am

re: #407 Charles Johnson

So you got upset about Hillary Clinton based on a pro-gun NRA shill’s hit piece and another idiotic story about the email fake scandal. Maybe one day you’ll notice how these people are manipulating you.

It’s also pretty rich given that he’s said nothing about the fact that the reports on HRC’s email usage also condemned the previous two SoS’s but they were in Republican administrations. As for the guns, he’s shown time and time again that he’d rather parrot the NRA party line than actually look at the problem of gun violence seriously.

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Great White Snark  May 28, 2016 • 11:16:05am

re: #394 ObserverArt

I was a little slow with my Google.
To solve the problem, first recognize it.
Americans’ Distaste For Both Trump And Clinton Is Record-Breaking

Nate Silver-

Normally, when we talk about candidate likability, we use favorability ratings, which combine “strongly favorable,” “somewhat favorable,” “somewhat unfavorable” and “strongly unfavorable.” But that didn’t work so well in the Republican primary, where Trump was able to win despite a relatively low net favorability rating because his “strongly favorable” rating with Republican primary voters was among the highest in the field. So let’s look at Trump and Clinton’s “strongly1 favorable” and “strongly unfavorable” ratings among general election voters.2

These are people who don’t just like or dislike the candidates, they really like or dislike them.

No past candidate comes close to Clinton, and especially Trump, in terms of engendering strong dislike a little more than six months before the election.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 28, 2016 • 11:17:26am

re: #405 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I’ve noticed a trend between the noted progressives like John Lewis, Barney Frank, Dolores Huerta, and Barbara Boxer that I’ve found out aren’t real progressives. None are heterosexual white males, the building block of Bernie’s coalition and people who actually know a thing or two about discrimination.

Yeah, this whole “Real Progressive = Sanders Supporter” shit has gotten old, as has bitching about The Establishment. You know, The Establishment that got them the Affordable Care Act, that put the Justices on the Supreme Court who upheld Marriage Equality, the ones who have been fighting against every step of the Right to take away the hard-won victories of Progressivism?

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HappyWarrior  May 28, 2016 • 11:21:15am

re: #412 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, this whole “Real Progressive = Sanders Supporter” shit has gotten old, as has bitching about The Establishment. You know, The Establishment that got them the Affordable Care Act, that put the Justices on the Supreme Court who upheld Marriage Equality, the ones who have been fighting against every step of the Right to take away the hard-won victories of Progressivism?

Absolutely. I mean the establishment isn’t perfect but they do a lot of genuinely good things. Honestly, it’s funny as shit to me hearing about how a man who got into Congress before I entered Kindergarten is somehow an upstart. I will grant them, Bernie’s not establishment but it’s not because of some wonderful merits he has, it’s because the guy sucks at working with people and you know what, I don’t want someone who sucks at working with people to be my president.

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 11:21:50am

re: #404 Great White Snark

The high negatives are acknowledged by her own side of the aisle in terms of the political experts, far more experienced than you or I. Relatively high negatives are a fact. One that can be overcome but more factual than mere opinion. High negatives as measure by actual polls. Well at this point, actual primaries. Sanders should have, would have never been close.

But aren’t those political experts just acknowledging the constant anti-Clinton drumbeat produced much of it?

I never said her negatives weren’t a fact. I am asking though how much fact is behind the political negatives.

Back in 2012 many Democratic candidates ran away from all those negatives about Obama and didn’t want to be seen with him. I bet some political experts made those decisions too. In many cases it now has been said they should have stood by Obama instead of run away. How many facts for all that scare were there then…and now?

Accepted fact can be quite different from real facts. I think the accepted facts about Hillary are not always backed up be real facts. But the weight of the insinuations are heavy.

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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 11:27:53am

I’ve been a Sanders supporter, but am under no illusion that anyone could ever elect a perfect candidate (as none exists).

Come November, I would swim through a pool of acid after beating back crocodiles with a baseball bat to vote for Mrs. Clinton. Fortunately, Nebraska’s voting rules are a bit easier than that.

I have no desire to see the fascist talking yam within a hundred miles of DC. (Mrs. Clinton’s and Mr. Sander’s Senate voting records are largely the same; the claims of difference are mostly a distraction, and Mrs. Clinton on Iraq got the same bad information as every other Senator. In hindsight did Mr. Sanders make the right vote? Yup. At the time did he know it? Probably not. Did Mrs. Clinton make the wrong vote? Yup. So did a whole bunch of other senators who were misled by the administration and a drumbeat from the press. The result was a disaster but it is not the fault of Hillary Clinton: It is the fault of the guy in charge, Dick Cheney George W. Bush)

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ObserverArt  May 28, 2016 • 11:34:33am

re: #411 Great White Snark

I was a little slow with my Google.
To solve the problem, first recognize it.
Americans’ Distaste For Both Trump And Clinton Is Record-Breaking

Nate Silver-

I’ve read that. All I am saying is everyone is using the presumed and accepted narrative about Clinton. The fact you seem to want to skip over is those negatives are largely created and because of that people use the impression of Clinton instead of some basic and very evident character facts that can prove some of those negatives wrong.

We bitch about the media, but then let them control those negatives and positives. Maybe the experts and others can allow that to happen and they do, but it does not make the decision correct to base your vote on that narrative that created and made the shit stick.

I know I am not and I wish others would not let the media drive the decision. Look deeper. But 25 years of crud is really hard to overcome if no one does look deeper. There is what leads to our real issues. Our public is lazy and they can be easily manipulated as they go with what they have heard and never looked into for 25 years.

And that ends my part of this aspect of the debate. It would just become circular from here.

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William Lewis  May 28, 2016 • 12:31:49pm

re: #270 sagehen

You do realize that none of us will be the least bit surprised when you turn into a Trump partisan. You’ll even have whole paragraphs worth of explanation why it’s the principled choice, the reasonable choice, the rational choice…

Way late and a dollar short but if he does, I will be disappointed.

No matter if everything ever said about Hillary were true, she is still a better person and would be a better president on her worst day than Trump on his best.


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