Must-See Video: An Exploration of the Nature of Bullshit

A greater enemy of the truth than lies
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Harry Frankfurt is an American philosopher and author of the New York Times Best Seller “On Bullshit”. Although first conceived as an essay over 30 years ago, his theory on bullshit is more relevant than ever before.

BULLSHIT! aims to further our understanding of what bullshit is, why there’s so much of it, and how it can be a greater enemy to the truth than lies.

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jaunte  May 28, 2016 • 8:50:25pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2016 • 9:00:20pm

I feel the rise of Trump will necessitate a sequel…

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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 9:00:43pm

Shorter version of Mr. Frank’s clip: Bullshit is bullshit.

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jaunte  May 28, 2016 • 9:03:27pm

Some fresh bullshit:

A federal judge has ordered the release of internal Trump University documents in an ongoing lawsuit against the company, including “playbooks” that advised sales personnel how to market high-priced courses on getting rich through real estate.

The Friday ruling, in which Judge Gonzalo Curiel cited heightened public interest in presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, was issued in response to a request by The Washington Post. The ruling was a setback for Trump, whose attorneys argued that the documents contained trade secrets.washingtonpost.com

Some truth from Judge Curiel:

Trump’s “assertion that the information retains any commercial value is speculative given the lack of any support for the statement that Trump University ‘may’ resume operations.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2016 • 9:04:08pm

re: #4 jaunte

Shorter Judge Curiel: Fuck you, Donald.

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William Lewis  May 28, 2016 • 9:16:07pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

I feel the rise of Trump will necessitate a sequel…

Hell, the rise of Trump makes me wish for a Frodo Bagins. Someone small, simple, honest & good. Someone who is strong enough to not need the brass ring Trump has spent his life chasing.

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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 9:18:36pm

re: #6 William Lewis

Hell, the rise of Trump makes me wish for a Frodo Bagins. Someone small, simple, honest & good. Someone who is strong enough to not need the brass ring Trump has spent his life chasing.

So who wants to throw Donald into Mount Doom?

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retired cynic  May 28, 2016 • 9:19:43pm

re: #7 Anymouse

So who wants to throw Donald into Mount Doom?

Here come the Eagles!

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De Kolta Chair  May 28, 2016 • 9:21:21pm

To be honest, I thought the first half was empty pompousness. Hopefully, the second half will involve man-eating alien sharks. In 3-D.

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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 9:21:51pm

re: #8 retired cynic

Here come the Eagles!

So who will be Donald’s Nazgul for his cabinet picks?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2016 • 9:23:07pm

re: #8 retired cynic

Here come the Eagles!

Fly you fools!

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De Kolta Chair  May 28, 2016 • 9:24:26pm
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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 9:24:52pm

re: #8 retired cynic

Here come the Eagles!

Something to do in their spare time while football season is on its summer break? /s

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William Lewis  May 28, 2016 • 9:27:15pm

re: #7 Anymouse

So who wants to throw Donald into Mount Doom?

Someone with a strong enough clamp for their nose?

But it would not be anyone we know, for none of the great powers succeeded in LOTR. Only the weak and powerless. Kinda like that carpenter from Roman Palestine…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 28, 2016 • 9:31:10pm

re: #6 William Lewis

Hell, the rise of Trump makes me wish for a Frodo Bagins. Someone small, simple, honest & good. Someone who is strong enough to not need the brass ring Trump has spent his life chasing.

Tyrion Lannister

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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 9:32:45pm

re: #15 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Tyrion Lannister

Malia Obama?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2016 • 9:37:51pm
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teleskiguy  May 28, 2016 • 9:40:32pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 28, 2016 • 9:43:14pm

re: #10 Anymouse

So who will be Donald’s Nazgul for his cabinet picks?

You can count on Bolton for State, Inhofe for Energy, Cheney for Defense,….

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2016 • 9:47:27pm
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retired cynic  May 28, 2016 • 9:48:56pm

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You can count on Bolton for State, Inhofe for Energy, Cheney for Defense,….

Any one of those would do it for me!

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bratwurst  May 28, 2016 • 9:50:46pm

Speaking of bullshit…this Bill Maher panel with Wayne Allyn Root and Scott “Dilbert” Adams preceded by Bernie produces more hot air and blows more fecal matter around than a Dyson Airblade hand dryer.

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teleskiguy  May 28, 2016 • 9:54:22pm

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Anymouse  May 28, 2016 • 9:58:19pm

re: #22 bratwurst

Speaking of bullshit…this Bill Maher panel with Wayne Allyn Root and Scott “Dilbert” Adams preceded by Bernie produces more hot air and blows more fecal matter around than a Dyson Airblade hand dryer.

Are they competing with Tropical Storm Bonnie in South Carolina?

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Joe Bacon  May 28, 2016 • 10:08:56pm

re: #22 bratwurst

Speaking of bullshit…this Bill Maher panel with Wayne Allyn Root and Scott “Dilbert” Adams preceded by Bernie produces more hot air and blows more fecal matter around than a Dyson Airblade hand dryer.

That lineup reminds me of the old game show “It Pays To Be Ignorant”…

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Great White Snark  May 28, 2016 • 10:27:54pm

View from inside the Trump campaign in the end days //

Martin Kdér - Radek Sladkovský - Škoda 130 LR (+ crash)

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Teukka  May 28, 2016 • 10:30:38pm

I wish… That the book was made into a feature-length docu or a series of such.

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Dave In Austin  May 28, 2016 • 11:27:10pm

I go on nite shift and the site goes dead..

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teleskiguy  May 28, 2016 • 11:30:57pm
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Kragar  May 28, 2016 • 11:32:45pm

re: #28 Dave In Austin

Maybe you should hit the bar…

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Dave In Austin  May 28, 2016 • 11:36:51pm

re: #30 Kragar

Maybe you should hit the bar…

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Quit drinking some 25 yrs ago…. But yeah.

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Kragar  May 28, 2016 • 11:38:17pm
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Kragar  May 28, 2016 • 11:39:23pm

re: #31 Dave In Austin

You would also need to wait roughly 300 years and for a nuclear apocalypse to occur before it opens.

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Dave In Austin  May 28, 2016 • 11:45:10pm

re: #33 Kragar

Or as few as 2 when the Golden Yam gets a wild hair for Royal fireworks.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  May 28, 2016 • 11:45:27pm

re: #8 retired cynic

Here come the Eagles!

I hate the fucking eagles, man.

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Alyosha  May 29, 2016 • 12:23:54am

Dumbfuck is dumbfuck.

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Kragar  May 29, 2016 • 12:24:22am
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teleskiguy  May 29, 2016 • 12:32:00am

re: #38 Kragar

I got about 30 seconds into that motherfucker. Too much!

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Alyosha  May 29, 2016 • 12:34:39am
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teleskiguy  May 29, 2016 • 12:38:36am

BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM

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dell*nix  May 29, 2016 • 12:45:39am

re: #38 Kragar

I read it as sky craper. LOL

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teleskiguy  May 29, 2016 • 1:03:36am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 29, 2016 • 1:09:43am

mr. klys has a tented-style ergonomic keyboard.

He keeps collapsing it as he plays Overwatch.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 29, 2016 • 1:14:06am

re: #43 teleskiguy

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My favorite—for the local reference.

The Mud Shark (Live At Fillmore East / 1971)

ETA: Although what he calls a mud shark we call a dogfish.

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teleskiguy  May 29, 2016 • 1:18:46am

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Mudshark Interview

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 29, 2016 • 1:26:45am

re: #46 teleskiguy

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Video

Well, dogfish are such a plague in Puget Sound that you’re required to gaff them before throwing them back. I guess leaving them in the bathtub would be just as good.

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teleskiguy  May 29, 2016 • 1:34:19am
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teleskiguy  May 29, 2016 • 1:40:44am

20 years ago Slayer put out a cover album called “Undisputed Attitude.”

Bunch of loud motherfucking shit! I loved it. My favorite tune:

Abolish Government/Superficial Love

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 2:14:35am

re: #37 Alyosha

Ah, our old pal Adam Vladimirovich.

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Alyosha  May 29, 2016 • 3:23:00am

re: #50 Nyet

Ah, our old pal Adam Vladimirovich.

I haven’t the foggiest idea of who he is.

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 3:48:48am

Gotta love brocialists.

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Alyosha  May 29, 2016 • 3:53:56am

re: #52 Nyet

Oop, just realised what you meant. Sunday night brain fizzle.

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 3:55:18am

salon.com

The article begins OK, but what’s this mushy-headed nonsense?

Let me be clear. I don’t want modern Republicans to govern and I think they bear significant responsibility for the situation we find ourselves in. But our democracy, our republic, needs them. In the long run, all Americans are better when we have at least two parties with reasonably clear and broadly reasonable public policies that allow us to hold our elected officials to account.

The last sentence contradicts the third one. While I agree that a functioning democracy needs somewhat of a countervector on the economic side of things, the Republicans with their crazy nihilism and protofascist leanings are not it. Ergo your republic does not need them.

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 4:03:17am

Bernie went from “not me, us” to “me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me”

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Alyosha  May 29, 2016 • 4:23:38am
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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 5:21:57am

Labour support among British Jews collapses to 8.5 per cent

Jewish Labour Movement hits out over reinstatement of activist after anti-Semitism row

Ms Walker, the vice-chair of South Thanet Labour party in Kent and a senior official in the pro-Jeremy Corbyn campaign group Momentum, was initially suspended earlier in May after a conversation on Facebook.

Ms Walker had asked: “What debt do we owe the Jews?”

When a fellow user replied “the Holocaust”, Ms Walker - who claims to be part-Jewish - said: “I hope you feel the same towards the African holocaust? My ancestors were involved in both.

“Many more Africans were killed in the African holocaust and their oppression continues today on a global scale in a way it doesn’t for Jews.

“And many Jews (my ancestors too) were the chief financiers of the sugar and slave trade.”

A Labour spokeswoman said yesterday: “Following the outcome of an investigation, Jacqueline Walker is no longer suspended and remains a member of the Labour party.”

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Fineday  May 29, 2016 • 5:29:49am

re: #56 Alyosha

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I agree 100 % with my Swedish neighbor. The government in Denmark is horribly right-wing, and they are trying to demolish the welfare society it took us generations to build in a few short years. I am no fan of Bernie either, but most of my fellow Danes love him. Moreover, they have yet to grasp that he has de facto lost to Hillary. They keep putting up posts on FB praying for him to become the Democratic candidate. Whenever I meekly try to point out that there is virtually no chance of that, I am met with a barrage of angry post deriding both me and Hillary, whom most of them see as the devil incarnate. I have been told countless times that there is no difference between Hillary and Trump, and when I stubbornly defend her and point out the long list of differences between Trump and her, very few pay attention. It is so good to log on to LGF, which has become my sanctuary and a constant source for valuable and valid info on everything political in the US. Thanks guys!

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jeffreyw  May 29, 2016 • 6:06:33am

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Good Morning!

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 6:27:13am

re: #39 teleskiguy

I got about 30 seconds into that motherfucker. Too much!

I”ll wait for the book.

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 6:38:54am
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Dr. Matt  May 29, 2016 • 6:41:53am

re: #61 Nyet

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She seems nice:

According to Pulaski County, Arkansas police records, she’s accused of aggravated robbery, kidnapping, first degree battery, hindering prosecution, and tampering with physical evidence.

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Buyers Remorse  May 29, 2016 • 6:42:38am

re: #61 Nyet

Is she from Tennessee? Because she is the only ten I see.

I wonder if it hurt?

When she fell from heaven.

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Buyers Remorse  May 29, 2016 • 6:45:43am

Since teleskiguy was a gentleman and introduced some Slayer this very fine morning, I shall post some old skool Anthrax!

Anthrax - Attack Of The Killer B’s (Full Album) [1991]

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Dr. Matt  May 29, 2016 • 6:46:34am

Not The Onion:

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 6:47:09am

re: #62 Dr. Matt

She seems nice:

Oh, that’s a real mugshot? I thought it was a promo pic for some TV show.

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Dr. Matt  May 29, 2016 • 6:49:04am

re: #66 darthstar

Oh, that’s a real mugshot? I thought it was a promo pic for some TV show.

In Trump’s America, that mugshot will lead to a TV show gig.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 6:49:08am

re: #65 Dr. Matt

Not The Onion:

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Nobody cares about her damn emails. Besides, the new email server she put in her house for after she becomes president runs Microsoft Exchange. Totes hack-proof.

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 6:50:29am

re: #63 Buyers Remorse

*groan*

;)

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The Vicious Babushka  May 29, 2016 • 6:51:00am

re: #7 Anymouse

So who wants to throw Donald into Mount Doom?

THE WITCH KING OF MAR-A-LAGO: No man can defeat me!

EOWYN OF CHAPPAQUA: I am no man!

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 6:51:31am

re: #62 Dr. Matt

Those are old charges, she already got suspended 5 for them.

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Buyers Remorse  May 29, 2016 • 6:53:32am

re: #71 Nyet

I wonder if she is getting the Casey Anthony discount, wink wink, nudge nudge.

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Dr. Matt  May 29, 2016 • 6:54:21am

re: #71 Nyet

Those are old charges, she already got suspended 5 for them.

In desperation, Bernie Cultists are bringing up every Clinton skeleton. In other words, they are acting like Republicans.

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Buyers Remorse  May 29, 2016 • 6:55:40am

re: #73 Dr. Matt

and she works for Clinton!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Huma Danger would not approve

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 6:59:07am

re: #73 Dr. Matt

In desperation, Bernie Cultists are bringing up every Clinton skeleton. In other words, they are acting like Republicans.

He’s a Trump supporter. Slams Hillary a lot, but also slams Bernie…retweeting Greg Abbot of all people. Typical Texas Republican.

In a couple of weeks, the primaries will be history and the desire to blame Bernie for Hillary’s history will be replaced by the desire to blame Trump.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 6:59:52am

And again, the emails thing is only effective with people who already hate Hillary. Ignore it. It’ll go away.

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Dr. Matt  May 29, 2016 • 7:02:15am

And more irrational hate from a Bernie Cultist/Republican:

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b_sharp  May 29, 2016 • 7:02:44am

I need a new (non-windows) tablet. Any suggestions?

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Dr. Matt  May 29, 2016 • 7:04:00am

After HRC becomes the next POTUS, Shaun King can take Cornel West’s job as the token democrat-hating “democrat” on Fox News.

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 7:05:01am

re: #77 Dr. Matt

And more irrational hate from a Bernie Cultist/Republican:

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Devastating! *yaaaaawn*

G’morning y’all. See the bugs were out crawling about last night.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 7:06:24am

re: #65 Dr. Matt

Not The Onion:

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Considering that her husband only did two emails as President, that seems like a lot of crap to me.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 7:07:40am

re: #78 b_sharp

I need a new (non-windows) tablet. Any suggestions?

Get the best.

ubuntu.com

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 7:12:43am

We apparently had some more sea lions move in with the mackerel and other bait fish that entered the harbor. I can hear them barking from my bedroom window.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 7:14:05am

Little Marco makes nice with the Donald.

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retired cynic  May 29, 2016 • 7:14:21am

re: #83 darthstar

We apparently had some more sea lions move in with the mackerel and other bait fish that entered the harbor. I can hear them barking from my bedroom window.

Oh, my. I’m hearing tree frogs, and spent some time last night collecting the trespassing lightning bugs and getting them out. Sea lions sound terribly exotic!

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Dr. Matt  May 29, 2016 • 7:19:35am

re: #84 darthstar

Little Marco makes nice with the Donald.

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It’s just a matter of time before Jeb and Cruz bow down to Herr Trump.

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Bass Reeves  May 29, 2016 • 7:20:29am

re: #75 darthstar

Nobody is blaming Bernie for Hillary’s ‘history’. We’re blaming Bernie (and his followers) for attacking Hillary using right wing propaganda bullshit.

For fuck’s sake, stop it.That’s not a campaign of ideas, that’s a campaign of bullshit. We already knew Donald was running one, but what we didn’t expect was Bernie to pivot from seemingly good ideas, to bullshit.

If you are arguing against Hillary right now based on emails, or speeches, or Vince Foster, or Monica Lewinsky, or *BILL*, or anything beyond what in her current policy platform that you don’t like that you think Bernie/Trump/Stein/Johnson does better, FOH.

I did not vote for Bernie in the primary because (and only because) I don’t believe structural racism can be solved through economic means, and I don’t think Bernie can actually solve the economic problems he claims to be able to (based on his interviews). I also think he has less foreign policy knowledge than I do.

I’m voting for Hillary because I agree more with her platform on racial justice, gun violence, America’s role abroad, and the LGBT community more than anyone else running at the moment.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 7:21:46am

re: #85 retired cynic

Oh, my. I’m hearing tree frogs, and spent some time last night collecting the trespassing lightning bugs and getting them out. Sea lions sound terribly exotic!

I like them…but they do crap up a storm on the docks.

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Dr. Matt  May 29, 2016 • 7:25:22am

re: #87 Bass Reeves

Bernie has spent the last 6 months attacking the Democratic party, the DNC, and using republican tactics against Hillary. His supporters have called me a Shillary supporter, an idiot, clueless, a drone, etc. But, guess what, even today and in 6 months I would still vote for Bernie if he’s the nominee. Yet, Bernie cultists act just like their cult leader; “it’s my way or no way”. Fucking entitled assholes.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 7:28:08am

re: #87 Bass Reeves

Nobody is blaming Bernie for Hillary’s ‘history’. We’re blaming Bernie (and his followers) for attacking Hillary using right wing propaganda bullshit.

For fuck’s sake, stop it.That’s not a campaign of ideas, that’s a campaign of bullshit. We already knew Donald was running one, but what we didn’t expect was Bernie to pivot from seemingly good ideas, to bullshit.

I’m not arguing against Hillary, and I haven’t posted a single anti-Hillary tweet here since I can’t remember when. Her history is just that…hers. She’s got decades of shit that Republicans will dredge up and yes, I know it’s mostly bullshit.

But blaming Bernie bros for everything anti-Hillary on the Internet is just as annoying as the anti-Hillary crap itself.

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 7:28:53am

re: #85 retired cynic

Oh, my. I’m hearing tree frogs, and spent some time last night collecting the trespassing lightning bugs and getting them out. Sea lions sound terribly exotic!

The problem is that sea lions are often followed by killer whales and great white sharks.

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Dr. Matt  May 29, 2016 • 7:29:40am
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Bass Reeves  May 29, 2016 • 7:31:03am

re: #90 darthstar

I’m not arguing against Hillary, and I haven’t posted a single anti-Hillary tweet here since I can’t remember when. Her history is just that…hers. She’s got decades of shit that Republicans will dredgedreamt up and yes, I know it’s mostly all bullshit.

But blaming Bernie bros for everythingembracing all of the anti-Hillary on the Internet is just as annoying as the anti-Hillary crap itself.

Mostly fixed it for you.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 29, 2016 • 7:31:11am

Heh

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 7:31:51am

My nephew came over last night - just graduate from Univ of Arizona. He’s a Republican. Wanted Rubio. Thinks Trump is destroying the party. Is voting for Hillary because she’s a neo-liberal and represents his values. My brother, his dad, is apoplectic about that apparently. After eight years of irrational anti-Obama hate he’s transferred it right over to Hillary. Visiting my family is going to get even less frequent for me in the next four years I suppose.

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Mattand  May 29, 2016 • 7:32:24am

re: #32 Kragar

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I guess I should be happy there are conservatives out there who are on speaking terms with reality. I just read that kind of stuff, though, and these are the thoughts that immediealty jump to mind:

1) Glad to see you’re properly horrified about Trump, but who was your pick? Cruz? Jindal? Carson? Seventeen Republicancs basically spouting the same brand of crazy isn’t a diversity of viewpoints; it’s a sign that the drinking water is infected.

2) Suffered through two terms of Clinton. Yeah, a booming economy is the bane of conservatives everywhere. Christ, people get a grip.

3) Again, this is another one who’s been religiously voting GOP for probably two decades, supporting the party as they’ve gotten crazier and crazier. And now he’s shocked—SHOCKED—the end result is Trump.

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retired cynic  May 29, 2016 • 7:36:48am

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that sea lions are often followed by killer whales and great white sharks.

Not in my backyard! <G>

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stpaulbear  May 29, 2016 • 7:37:05am

re: #90 darthstar

She’s got decades of shit that Republicans will dredge up and yes, I know it’s mostly bullshit.

That still sounds like you’re blaming Hillary for the bullshit that republicans keep trying to throw at her. “She’s got decades of shit…” You can’t have it both ways. She’s not guilty or responsible for all of the lies and crap that republicans have unsuccessfully tried to pin on her and Bill over the last couple decades.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 7:38:39am

re: #94 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Sounds like a great strategy: wait until you nab the majority of the delegates, and declare the race over. More effective than waiting for the Lone Ranger to suddenly appear in town, with a few hundred missing delegates he just happened to find somewhere.

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retired cynic  May 29, 2016 • 7:39:25am

Updated post for Memorial Day from Stonekettle. I can’t believe he is moving to Florida. He needs that big Alaska country as a background in my mind.

stonekettle.com

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 7:40:04am

re: #87 Bass Reeves

And here’s where I don’t agree: Hillary Clinton’s flip-flops and dishonestly and entirely not bullshit. They speak to her character and if she can be believed when she advances ideas. As an example:

The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act: Facts and policy

Hillary Clinton has castigated Bernie Sanders for voting for a federal statute that she says provides “absolute immunity” to firearms manufacturers. According to Westlaw’s news database, she made the claim on May 15 (reported in the Guardian on May 16); shortly before the April 5 Wisconsin primary (reported in the Guardian on March 29); at the March 6 debate in Flint, Mich.; on “Face the Nation” on Jan. 10; and at the ABC debate in New Hampshire on Dec. 19, 2015.

Her claims must be a surprise to the handgun manufacturer Taurus, which has agreed to pay up to $30 million (plus $9 million in attorneys’ fees) to settle a class action involving allegedly defective Taurus handguns. The class action Carter v. Forjas Taurus, S.A. alleges that some Taurus models fire when they are accidentally dropped. The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida has scheduled a July 18 hearing on the proposed class action final settlement; in the proposal, Taurus does not admit the plaintiffs’ factual claims. Further information about the case, including the firearms models and the various procedures for class members, is available here.

As a Yale Law School graduate who served in the Senate and who voted against the proposed statute, Clinton would presumably know the statute’s content. It is difficult to understand why she continues to make inaccurate claims about “absolute immunity.” In this post, I will describe what the statute actually does and the concerns that led to its enactment.

In fact, it’s easy to understand why Hillary Clinton keeps saying the PLCAA grants ‘absolute immunity’: She doesn’t care what the truth is, she only cares about getting in s attack that is hard to refute. Her main concern is advancing the fortunes of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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Belafon  May 29, 2016 • 7:43:10am

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

And here’s where I don’t agree: Hillary Clinton’s flip-flops and dishonestly and entirely not bullshit. They speak to her character and if she can be believed when she advances ideas. As an example:

In fact, it’s easy to understand why Hillary Clinton keeps saying the PLCAA grants ‘absolute immunity’: She doesn’t care what the truth is, she only cares about getting in s attack that is hard to refute. Her main concern is advancing the fortunes of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Don’t mix the two. No manufacturer has absolute immunity from defects. She’s talking about immunity from lawsuits for doing things like selling assault weapons to people who use them.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 7:43:12am

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that sea lions are often followed by killer whales and great white sharks.

Most of our great whites live over around the Farralon Islands about 17 miles away. That’s their nursing ground. Super sharky waters. We do get the occasional siting near the shore and the juveniles will come into SF bay every now and then chasing schools of salmon. We did get one Orca in the harbor here in HMB last year…a kayaker caught it going by him as he was paddling near the harbor entrance. I’m more excited about the Hump Back Whales. They came last year around this time and stayed close for almost a month(there was a huge squid run)…made traffic suck from all the looky-loos along the roadside, but they really were quite something to watch.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 7:44:09am

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

And here’s where I don’t agree: Hillary Clinton’s flip-flops and dishonestly and entirely not bullshit. They speak to her character and if she can be believed when she advances ideas. As an example:

In fact, it’s easy to understand why Hillary Clinton keeps saying the PLCAA grants ‘absolute immunity’: She doesn’t care what the truth is, she only cares about getting in s attack that is hard to refute. Her main concern is advancing the fortunes of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

I think she wants to be president. Most politicians who aim for higher office tend to be ambitious, as a rule.

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KerFuFFler  May 29, 2016 • 7:45:25am

I have been reading in depth about Trump University’s operations in NY. His involvement in such a scam reveals his dishonest and vicious willingness to defraud “the little guy”——- people with few financial resources and desperate enough to fall for their sales pitch.

But I suspect that the most embarrassing aspect of all this for Trump is that he himself seems like he was duped by whoever came up with the whole program and convinced him to put his name on it. On page 18 of the pdf it comes out that Trump only got about 5 million out of this 40 million dollar fraud. But with his name on everything, and with his reputation for deep pockets, he is the primary target of this lawsuit. A paltry 5 million (for him…) can’t be worth this much of a headache.

I imagine the actual architects of this scam laughed themselves silly as they worked on their initial pitch to the Donald. Something like, “Of course he’ll go for it. It will flatter his ego to have a ‘University’ named after him. And all our promotional materials will make him out to be some sort of real estate genius!” *snort*

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 7:46:53am

re: #98 stpaulbear

That still sounds like you’re blaming Hillary for the bullshit that republicans keep trying to throw at her. “She’s got decades of shit…” You can’t have it both ways. She’s not guilty or responsible for all of the lies and crap that republicans have unsuccessfully tried to pin on her and Bill over the last couple decades.

A while back a friend sent me an email with a video link. His comment with it was that if EVEN HALF of the stuff in the video about Hillary was true then we should be CONCERNED!

The video started out with Travelgate and proceeded to Vince Foster. Stopped watching it right there and responded to my friend “Seriously? You’re buying any of this obvious bullshit?” He responded back, “no, no, no, I know its mostly crap BUT what if some of it is true? Doesn’t that CONCERN you?”

So here’s an otherwise intelligent guy who acknowledges that this is a hit piece unfounded in reality yet he still buys in. Depressing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 7:47:05am

Regarding questions from last night’s thread about why I called ratfuckery on the Sanders loan letter, Victoria Toensing has been a huge promoter of Benghazi lies, and a frequent guest on Fox to push them.

Sorry I didn’t respond last night. I fell into a book and had to fight my way through to the last page. Thank goodness I finished before 12:30. I have been known to stay up all night doing that, and I’mm getting too old for that!

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Bass Reeves  May 29, 2016 • 7:47:53am

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

I meant to bring this up when you posted it last, but your opinion piece ignores that she is talking about manufacturers not being liable when crimes are committed, not when they create a demonstrably defective product. The context of course being Sandy Hook. Your piece’s author being a 2A nutjob.

Or if you are being pedantic again, pedant away.

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PhillyPretzel  May 29, 2016 • 7:48:27am

re: #107 Blind Frog Belly White

I understand getting lost in a book. I have 2 on order from amazon.

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 7:50:16am

re: #102 Belafon

Don’t mix the two. No manufacturer has absolute immunity from defects. She’s talking about immunity from lawsuits for doing things like selling assault weapons to people who use them.

Still isn’t absolute, as a seller can be sued for an unlawful sale. But a gun seller should be protected from being sued because some to whom he sold a pistol went on a rampage with it 18 months later after a series of life crises. The seller had no way to know that his customer was going to go off the deep end and should not be punished for it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 7:50:42am

re: #105 KerFuFFler

His ego would prevent him from admitting he was suckered into anything, even if the evidence is printed out plain as day. Trump probably envies people like Richard Branson or Oprah Winfrey, who have carved out substantial business empires with effective branding, and has tried to do the same with Trump™. Thing is, he lets his ego outweigh good business sense, so most of his efforts at branding have been colossal failures. Notably, Trump Wine is run by his son, who may even know something about the wine business.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 7:53:02am

re: #104 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I think she wants to be president. Most politicians who aim for higher office tend to be ambitious, as a rule.

I always was amused when they called Obama arrogant and narcissistic. Why yes you do have to bit of both to want to have a job that only 43 different people have had in the course of a 220+ year old country that has had literally millions of residents over the years. I just don’t see Clinton’s ambitions as unique. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if she were a man. Honestly, I think she’s very much earned her party’s nomination. Not too many people serve as senator and secretary of state. She’s certainly more qualified for the job than Trump who even fi he weren’t a terrible businessman would be unqualified.

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Bass Reeves  May 29, 2016 • 7:53:12am

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

Interesting…you don’t say. Nothing like background checks, mental health evaluations, or prosecuting the gun sellers who are *known* to sell to criminals?

I mean, gawsh…there is just NOTHING this country could do to stop gun crimes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 7:53:28am

re: #109 PhillyPretzel

I understand getting lost in a book. I have 2 on order from amazon.

The instant delivery on Kindle makes it dangerous.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 7:54:31am

re: #113 Bass Reeves

Interesting…you don’t say. Nothing like background checks, mental health evaluations, or prosecuting the gun sellers who are *known* to sell to criminals?

I mean, gawsh…there is just NOTHING this country could do to stop gun crimes.

Easier to blame lack of prayer and secularism for shootings rather than confront the fact that guns are absurdly easy to get in this country.

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 7:56:17am

re: #108 Bass Reeves

I meant to bring this up when you posted it last, but your opinion piece ignores that she is talking about manufacturers not being liable when crimes are committed, not when they create a demonstrably defective product. The context of course being Sandy Hook. Your piece’s author being a 2A nutjob.

Or if you are being pedantic again, pedant away.

The thing about Sandy Hook is that the rifle used to commit the murders was not sold to Adam Lanza, it was sold to his mother Nancy. A background check was properly run at time of purchase, but it did not stop the sale because Nancy had never broken the law. The check did not include her younger son and even if it had it would not have prevented the sale because Adam Lanza had never been found ‘mentally defective’.

Moreover, Nancy Lanza did not give her son access to her gun safe. Instead Adam Lanza spied on his mother to learn the combination and then used the rifle to kill her. There was nothing visible to anyone in the firearms or gun storage industries that would have given them any reason to suspect that rifle was going to end up in the hands of some as evil as Adam Lanza.

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 7:57:37am

re: #106 allegro

I was reading Snopes this morning on the “Clinton Body Count” conspiracy page. It’s a good reminder of the bullshit that Republicans have been soaking themselves in since the ‘90’s.

Here’s just one example of the ongoing anti-Clinton rumor industry:

In 1988 Larry Nichols, then a marketing director for the Arkansas Development Finance Authority, was fired from his job for making hundreds of calls to the Nicaraguan contras from his office. In 1990 he filed a lawsuit against Clinton claiming the then-Governor of Arkansas and others made him the scapegoat in a misappropriation-of-funds charge that cost him his job. In that suit he also tossed in claims of extramarital affairs, naming five women Clinton was supposed to have chased across the sheets. Nichols withdrew his lawsuit in 1992 and issued a round of apologies to everyone involved. He admitted what he’d said had been an attempt to destroy the Governor by innuendo.

Nichols has since changed his tune yet again, and has returned to making allegations against Clinton, always being careful to stop just short of asserting Clinton is involved in various murders and other crimes Nichols points to as “suspicious.”

Since his dismissal from the AFDA, Nichols has made a career of peddling anti-Clinton books and tapes to the lunatic fringe. Take anything claimed about or by this man with a huge grain of salt.
snopes.com

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 7:58:00am

re: #113 Bass Reeves

Neither the article nor I said anything like that. Moreover, all of those measures could be implemented while leaving the PLCAA entirely alone.

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b_sharp  May 29, 2016 • 7:59:18am

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

The instant delivery on Kindle makes it dangerous.

It’s horrible.

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 7:59:18am

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

The thing about Sandy Hook is that the rifle used to commit the murders was not sold to Adam Lanza, it was sold to his mother Nancy. A background check was properly run at time of purchase, but it did not stop the sale because Nancy had never broken the law. The check did not include her younger son and even if it had it would not have prevented the sale because Adam Lanza had never been found ‘mentally defective’.

Moreover, Nancy Lanza did not give her son access to her gun safe. Instead Adam Lanza spied on his mother to learn the combination and then used the rifle to kill her. There was nothing visible to anyone in the firearms or gun storage industries that would have given them any reason to suspect that rifle was going to end up in the hands of some as evil as Adam Lanza.

You are entirely ignoring the fact of military weapons being aggressively marketed to civilians who have no justification for owning them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 7:59:36am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

I always was amused when they called Obama arrogant and narcissistic. Why yes you do have to bit of both to want to have a job that only 43 different people have had in the course of a 220+ year old country that has had literally millions of residents over the years. I just don’t see Clinton’s ambitions as unique. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if she were a man. Honestly, I think she’s very much earned her party’s nomination. Not too many people serve as senator and secretary of state. She’s certainly more qualified for the job than Trump who even fi he weren’t a terrible businessman would be unqualified.

Exactly. People who would run for the highest office in the land have to be pretty damned self-assured and ambitious to even consider the job. Of course, HRC wants to further her career. She ran for president once before, and she wants to do it again, and this time she might even win. Expecting her to be a meek schoolmarm is just not realistic. It’s condescending and sexist.

And Trump IS a shitty businessman. He’s long on self-promotion and short on results, like those Get Rich My Special Way™ people who have made most of their fortunes selling their Get Rich My Special Way™ books, videos and training courses. As rich guys go, Trump is third-tier or lower.

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stpaulbear  May 29, 2016 • 8:00:47am

re: #106 allegro

A while back a friend sent me an email with a video link. His comment with it was that if EVEN HALF of the stuff in the video about Hillary was true then we should be CONCERNED!

The video started out with Travelgate and proceeded to Vince Foster. Stopped watching it right there and responded to my friend “Seriously? You’re buying any of this obvious bullshit?” He responded back, “no, no, no, I know its mostly crap BUT what if some of it is true? Doesn’t that CONCERN you?”

So here’s an otherwise intelligent guy who acknowledges that this is a hit piece unfounded in reality yet he still buys in. Depressing.

Yes, exactly. And the ones who do buy all that crap (like my sister) are the ones raving that Hillary should be in prison.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:00:51am

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

The instant delivery on Kindle makes it dangerous.

I avoid that problem by putting books on my wish list. Even so, I’ve still got four books on my Kindle that I still need to read.

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Bass Reeves  May 29, 2016 • 8:01:46am

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

Yep, so in my background check I would go ‘Do you live in proximity to a person with a history of mental illness?’ And then when they go ‘yep’, I say, ‘Please purchase a safe with a bio-metric lock to prevent that person having access.’

And I wouldn’t even have been thinking about that person going on a rampage and killing a bunch of kids, I would have been thinking about helping prevent the mentally ill person from committing suicide.

Also, Nancy Lanza took her son shooting with her often, didn’t she?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 8:02:44am

re: #120 allegro

You are entirely ignoring the fact of military weapons being aggressively marketed to civilians who have no justification for owning them.

He’ll counter that they’re not military weapons, because they don’t do fully automatic.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:04:03am

re: #124 Bass Reeves

Yep, so in my background check I would go ‘Do you live in proximity to a person with a history of mental illness?’ And then when they go ‘yep’, I say, ‘Please purchase a safe with a bio-metric lock to prevent that person having access.’

And I wouldn’t even have been thinking about that person going on a rampage and killing a bunch of kids, I would have been thinking about helping prevent the mentally ill person from committing suicide.

Also, Nancy Lanza took her son shooting with her often, didn’t she?

She did. You bring up another point though about shootings. There’s lots of cases of self-inflicted deaths to shooting that get forgotten since the media focuses more on homicides than it does suicides.

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retired cynic  May 29, 2016 • 8:06:24am

I’ve been reading the ‘TL:DR’ post from RightWingWatch about CTs Trump pushes. Combining reading many of his tweets over years, and remembering his statement in his book where you tell a lie three times to get people to believe it, makes me nauseous. Good heavens, Hitler was subtle compared to this &*I(#$%. I cannot think of a name bad enough.

rightwingwatch.org

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 8:06:33am

re: #120 allegro

You are entirely ignoring the fact of military weapons being aggressively marketed to civilians who have no justification for owning them.

The government must show why it is justified in banning something. Citizens do not need to justify to the government why they wish to own someone.

And if any bans are to be promulgated, that is the task of Congress. And after Sandy Hook Diane Feinstein introduced such a ban in the Senate and the a majority of the Senate voted that ban down.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:06:50am

The problem with guns is I hear all the time about responsible gun owners this and responsible gun owners yet there’s not a day where I’m not reading a bout the little kid playing with mommy or daddy’s gun and it goes off and he kills himself or his friend or his sibling. If people want to own guns, fine but they need to be regulated and people need to be proven they can be responsible with them. Honestly, I really don’t like the idea of military weapons being at homes. If you want to go to a range or target shooting area and be provided with them, that’s okay but being at home especially with children or people with mental illness?

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plansbandc  May 29, 2016 • 8:06:52am

It amazes me when I talk to someone about a certain candidate’s racism and they don’t bat an eye over it. Apparently, I know more racists than I realized.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:07:31am

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

The government must show why it is justified in banning something. Citizens do not need to justify to the government why they wish to own someone.

And if any bans are to be promulgated, that is the task of Congress. And after Sandy Hook Diane Feinstein introduced such a ban in the Senate and the a majority of the Senate voted that ban down.

Didn’t stop your party from supporting the banning of sex toys.

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Bass Reeves  May 29, 2016 • 8:08:43am

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I’d have to point out that guns is the only situation where Republicans are interested in that logic.

And I know you didn’t mean ‘someone’, but it made me snicker, sorry.

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Jay C  May 29, 2016 • 8:08:48am

re: #124 Bass Reeves

Yep, so in my background check I would go ‘Do you live in proximity to a person with a history of mental illness?’ And then when they go ‘yep’, I say, ‘Please purchase a safe with a bio-metric lock to prevent that person having access.’

And I wouldn’t even have been thinking about that person going on a rampage and killing a bunch of kids, I would have been thinking about helping prevent the mentally ill person from committing suicide.

Also, Nancy Lanza took her son shooting with her often, didn’t she?

And sad to say, is it likely that Nancy Lanza would have answered that question in the positive? Even if she believed it?? - which seems to have been unlikely. AFAICR, Ma Lanza was something of a gun nut: her attitude (as best as it can be reconstructed at this point, which is to say, not very well) was more like:
“Well, Adam can be a little moody sometimes, but he likes guns, so that’s OK…”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:08:54am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

She did. You bring up another point though about shootings. There’s lots of cases of self-inflicted deaths to shooting that get forgotten since the media focuses more on homicides than it does suicides.

One of my friends did herself in a number of years ago with her late father’s handgun. No warning signs at all.

Gun nuts claim that “librulz” are afraid of guns. Considering that guns can inflict considerable harm when used improperly, a healthy respect for their dangers seems wise, not cowardly.

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 8:09:47am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

GAZE

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 8:10:23am

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

The government must show why it is justified in banning something. Citizens do not need to justify to the government why they wish to own someone.

And if any bans are to be promulgated, that is the task of Congress. And after Sandy Hook Diane Feinstein introduced such a ban in the Senate and the a majority of the Senate voted that ban down.

30,000 some gun deaths a year seems like a pretty solid reason for gun control measures. Of course your buddies in the Senate voted against it. That’s why we’re working to elect sane leaders who are willing to address the issue.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:10:28am

re: #134 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

One of my friends did herself in a number of years ago with her late father’s handgun. No warning signs at all.

Gun nuts claim that “librulz” are afraid of guns. Considering that guns can inflict considerable harm when used improperly, a healthy respect for their dangers seems wise, not cowardly.

I’ve talked about it here before but my grand uncle did about fifteen years ago. But you’re right, they love to talk about how we’re afraid of them, that we’re pussies, or that their guns make us cry but it’s the fact that they have no regard for other people that pisses me off.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:11:44am

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

The government must show why it is justified in banning something. Citizens do not need to justify to the government why they wish to own someone.

And if any bans are to be promulgated, that is the task of Congress. And after Sandy Hook Diane Feinstein introduced such a ban in the Senate and the a majority of the Senate voted that ban down.

Unless Adam Lanza’s mother, who is now dead, was a member of Seal Team Six, there was no practical reason for her to purchase an assault rifle. My guess, and we’ll never know because the fucker killed her, is that she bought it for her son because he wanted it and mothers do stupid shit for their kids because they love them.

I grew up with guns. I have guns (I keep them at my parent’s house because I have no need for them and dad has a nice big gun safe). I’m not anti gun. I am anti assault rifle. They’re useless for hunting, and they’re useless for protection. They’re useful only for ASSAULT hence their name. They’re tactical killing tools.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:12:07am

re: #127 retired cynic

I’ve been reading the ‘TL:DR’ post from RightWingWatch about CTs Trump pushes. Combining reading many of his tweets over years, and remembering his statement in his book where you tell a lie three times to get people to believe it, makes me nauseous. Good heavens, Hitler was subtle compared to this &*I(#$%. I cannot think of a name bad enough.

rightwingwatch.org

Trump could be one of those paranoids who latches on to every CT because they fit his perception of the world. Everybody is out to get him. That’s not the kind of personality that belongs in the White House, as history has proved.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:12:24am

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

GAZE

Well you did say the government had to demonstrate the danger of an object before banning it. Tell me what inherent dangers of sex toys have Southern Republicans found? I think it’s awfully adorable that your party is far more concerned about what people do to pleasure themselves than giving potentially deadly weapon that can kill tons of people in an instant.

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 8:12:26am

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Citizens do not need to justify to the government why they wish to own someone.

Freuduan slip?

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stpaulbear  May 29, 2016 • 8:13:34am

re: #134 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

One of my friends did herself in a number of years ago with her late father’s handgun. No warning signs at all.

Gun nuts claim that “librulz” are afraid of guns. Considering that guns can inflict considerable harm when used improperly, a healthy respect for their dangers seems wise, not cowardly.

They inflict considerable harm when used properly too. That’s their only reason for existence. Harm or threat of harm.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:13:42am

re: #138 darthstar

Unless Adam Lanza’s mother, who is now dead, was a member of Seal Team Six, there was no practical reason for her to purchase an assault rifle. My guess, and we’ll never know because the fucker killed her, is that she bought it for her son because he wanted it and mothers do stupid shit for their kids because they love them.

I grew up with guns. I have guns (I keep them at my parent’s house because I have no need for them and dad has a nice big gun safe). I’m not anti gun. I am anti assault rifle. They’re useless for hunting, and they’re useless for protection. They’re useful only for ASSAULT hence their name. They’re tactical killing tools.

They were invented to kill large amounts of people very quickly. Great if you’re in combat but honestly no practical civilian use at all.

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 8:13:55am

re: #136 allegro

At the time the Democrats had the majority and several Democrats voted against Feinstein’s amendment. There’s not a Senate majority to be had for another “Assault Weapons” Ban. It will not happen because majorities in most of the states do not want it.

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FormerDirtDart  May 29, 2016 • 8:14:47am

To tense up in here for a Sunday morning

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:15:00am

re: #142 stpaulbear

They inflict considerable harm when used properly too. That’s their only reason for existence. Harm or threat of harm.

I should have worded that differently to mean unintentional harm. The whole purpose of a firearm is to damage something or someone.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:15:19am

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

GAZE

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:16:30am

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

To tense up in here for a Sunday morning

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My previous cat, Bflat, loved corn on the cob.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:16:46am

re: #147 darthstar

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Be careful, that thing may give someone an erection. That’s much more dangerous than killing kids.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:17:33am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Well you did say the government had to demonstrate the danger of an object before banning it. Tell me what inherent dangers of sex toys have Southern Republicans found? I think it’s awfully adorable that your party is far more concerned about what people do to pleasure themselves than giving potentially deadly weapon that can kill tons of people in an instant.

You forgot legislating bathroom usage. A tiny transgender minority is inordinately much more threatening than freely available assault weapons, after all.

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 8:17:56am

The Time Ted Cruz Defended a Ban on Dildos
motherjones.com

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PhillyPretzel  May 29, 2016 • 8:18:01am

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

Some cats love veggies. That cat is one of them.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:18:39am

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

At the time the Democrats had the majority and several Democrats voted against Feinstein’s amendment. There’s not a Senate majority to be had for another “Assault Weapons” Ban. It will not happen because majorities in most of the states do not want it.

Minorities in key states don’t want it, and that’s all it takes to prevent legislation.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:19:01am

re: #152 PhillyPretzel

Some cats love veggies. That cat is one of them.

I had a cat who loved canteloupe. I caught her on the dining table one time lapping up the juices in a canteloupe rind.

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Jay C  May 29, 2016 • 8:19:03am

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

To tense up in here for a Sunday morning

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Yep. One of Mrs. Jay’s former cats was a big corn-on-the-cob fan: he’d jump up on her lap and start nibbling from whatever other end from where she was eating (behavior quickly discouraged). When having corn, we’d usually throw Jonathan a section: we’d typically find the bare cob left out on the floor next morning….

First time I’ve ever seen a cat video of it, though: nice to know Jonathan wasn’t the only one.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:19:53am

re: #151 jaunte

He looks like he’s showing the Senate how big that sucker was.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:20:00am

re: #150 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You forgot legislating bathroom usage. A tiny transgender minority is inordinately much more threatening than freely available assault weapons, after all.

That’s true as well and not to mention the Utah Governor recently declared the state in emergency due to pornography………….Really, I may have sounded like I was being a smart ass but I want to know how a party can tell me with a straight face that we can’t prohibit military like weapons from the hands of civilians but we can tell people what they can do to pleasure themselves and their sexual partners.

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retired cynic  May 29, 2016 • 8:20:31am

re: #139 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trump could be one of those paranoids who latches on to every CT because they fit his perception of the world. Everybody is out to get him. That’s not the kind of personality that belongs in the White House, as history has proved.

If he is, he is sicker than I think. I just think he is a total lying self-promoter, pushing his brand, and having his name attached to any flag he can keep aloft for a moment. One falls, he just moves to the next.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:22:35am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

That’s true as well and not to mention the Utah Governor recently declared the state in emergency due to pornography………….Really, I may have sounded like I was being a smart ass but I want to know how a party can tell me with a straight face that we can’t prohibit military like weapons from the hands of civilians but we can tell people what they can do to pleasure themselves and their sexual partners.

Americans have very weird attitudes about violence and sex. TV shows with people being killed in all kinds of ways can appear on network primetime, but one brief glimpse of Janet Jackson’s boob sent half of middle America into a tailspin.

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stpaulbear  May 29, 2016 • 8:22:35am

re: #152 PhillyPretzel

Some cats love veggies. That cat is one of them.

One of my cats was bugging me to share a veggie pizza so I gave her a little piece of green pepper because I thought that would put her off, but she LOVED it and wanted MOAR!

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:24:01am

re: #159 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Americans have very weird attitudes about violence and sex. TV shows with people being killed in all kinds of ways can appear on network primetime, but one brief glimpse of Janet Jackson’s boob sent half of middle America into a tailspin.

Reminds me of a childhood friend and the movie Braveheart, he was allowed to see the very brutal drawing and quartering sequence but the scenes with Mel Gibson and Catherine McCormack naked were a no no.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:24:21am

re: #158 retired cynic

If he is, he is sicker than I think. I just think he is a total lying self-promoter, pushing his brand, and having his name attached to any flag he can keep aloft for a moment. One falls, he just moves to the next.

He reminds me of those get rich quick real estate hucksters who convince marks that any idiot can become a billionaire investing in property.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:24:35am
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retired cynic  May 29, 2016 • 8:25:02am

re: #162 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He reminds me of those get rich quick real estate hucksters who convince marks that any idiot can become a billionaire investing in property.

That’s because he is!

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:25:55am

re: #151 jaunte

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The Time Ted Cruz Defended a Ban on Dildos
motherjones.com

msnbc.com
Ken Cuccinelli was really into defending archaic sexual statues too. No wonder why he endorsed Cruz.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:26:44am

I haven’t seen the video but I did see the rage at Bernie’s anti-gay status. Like most other things that float by as twitter frenzy rage-gasms, I ignored it…glad I did now.

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Great White Snark  May 29, 2016 • 8:26:48am

re: #153 darthstar

Minorities in key states don’t want it, and that’s all it takes to prevent legislation.

I can see some minorities that want them very much. Ethnic minorities in fear of deportation goon squads and white supremacist militias under Trump coming. Seems Mr Trump has the highest probability in a century or more of making the formerly least credible argument against the Second Amendment perfectly credible.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:26:59am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Reminds me of a childhood friend and the movie Braveheart, he was allowed to see the very brutal drawing and quartering sequence but the scenes with Mel Gibson and Catherine McCormack naked were a no no.

I believe it. Movie ratings in America allow some pretty graphic violence even in PG13 flicks, but any front nudity, however brief, dishes out an R rating.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:27:26am

re: #164 retired cynic

That’s because he is!

An idiot? Yup.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:28:20am

re: #167 Great White Snark

I can see some minorities that want them very much. Ethnic minorities in fear of deportation goon squads and white supremacist militias under Trump coming. Seems Mr Trump has the highest probability in a century or more of making the formerly least credible argument against the Second Amendment perfectly credible.

I knew I should have been specific. I meant vocal minorities - not ethnic minorities. A handful of gun-humper teabag congressmen to be specific.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:28:57am

re: #168 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I believe it. Movie ratings in America allow some pretty graphic violence even in PG13 flicks, but any front nudity, however brief, dishes out an R rating.

Yeah, that’s right. I don’t get that at all but as you said, we do have some weird puritanical hang ups about sex.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:29:26am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 29, 2016 • 8:32:37am

re: #127 retired cynic

I’ve been reading the ‘TL:DR’ post from RightWingWatch about CTs Trump pushes. Combining reading many of his tweets over years, and remembering his statement in his book where you tell a lie three times to get people to believe it, makes me nauseous. Good heavens, Hitler was subtle compared to this &*I(#$%. I cannot think of a name bad enough.

rightwingwatch.org

“Tell a lie 3 times” meme is fake.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:32:38am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:33:22am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Yeah, that’s right. I don’t get that at all but as you said, we do have some weird puritanical hang ups about sex.

As bad as the USA is, China’s attitudes about sex on TV and movies is back in the 1950s. The censors cut out any nudity at all — such as Kate Winslet posing for Leo DiCaprio in the 3D release of Titanic — and last year told a domestic TV production that their period costumes were showing too much cleavage. Meanwhile, the Chinese public routinely skirts the censorship by downloading movies, TV shows and porn from the Internet.

Kinda like Utah.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:33:51am

re: #173 The Vicious Babushka

“Tell a lie 3 times” meme is fake.

But I read at least three times that he DID write that in his book.

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Great White Snark  May 29, 2016 • 8:34:34am

re: #170 darthstar

I knew I should have been specific. I meant vocal minorities - not ethnic minorities. A handful of gun-humper teabag congressmen to be specific.

My point is that circumstances are changing. Changing to where actually defending ones own or a neighbors right to stay here pending due process or to attend a Mosque or prayer room will be necessary. Not just writing blog posts and canvassing. Actually defend those people and those acts.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:34:41am

re: #175 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

As bad as the USA is, China’s attitudes about sex on TV and movies is back in the 1950s. The censors cut out any nudity at all — such as Kate Winslet posing for Leo DiCaprio in the 3D release of Titanic — and last year told a domestic TV production that their period costumes were showing too much cleavage. Meanwhile, the Chinese public routinely skirts the censorship by downloading movies, TV shows and porn from the Internet.

Kinda like Utah.

They fuck like bunnies in Utah.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:34:42am

re: #175 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

As bad as the USA is, China’s attitudes about sex on TV and movies is back in the 1950s. The censors cut out any nudity at all — such as Kate Winslet posing for Leo DiCaprio in the 3D release of Titanic — and last year told a domestic TV production that their period costumes were showing too much cleavage. Meanwhile, the Chinese public routinely skirts the censorship by downloading movies, TV shows and porn from the Internet.

Kinda like Utah.

I think it would come as a surprise to many American social conservatives that their prudishness about sex is similar to Communists. It’s not just China as you know, the Soviet Union under Stalin especially was far from socially liberal.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 29, 2016 • 8:35:08am

re: #176 darthstar

But I read at least three times that he DID write that in his book.

Here is the actual quote:

The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular.

I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:35:25am

re: #174 darthstar

My canteloupe cat once filched an entire roasted chicken off the dining table while we briefly had our backs turned to serve the veggies.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 8:38:18am

re: #177 Great White Snark

My point is that circumstances are changing. Changing to where actually defending ones own or a neighbors right to stay here pending due process or to attend a Mosque or prayer room will be necessary. Not just writing blog posts and canvassing. Actually defend those people and those acts.

If I was in a position where I needed to defend myself in the open air with a firearm, I’d want my .44-40 - Yeah, it’s a bit of a cowboy gun, but it holds 11 rounds, shoots straight, and the lever action means I’m not going to accidentally blow my neighbor’s kid’s face off getting it ready to clean.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:38:54am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I think it would come as a surprise to many American social conservatives that their prudishness about sex is similar to Communists. It’s not just China as you know, the Soviet Union under Stalin especially was far from socially liberal.

The censors in Beijing are still stuck in the 1950s.

There was a funny photo shared on social media here a few days ago showing a very embarrassed trucker picking up a box load of dildos that had fallen out of his truck. He really looked mortified as he was stooping down to pick up the scattered items from the road.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:39:38am

re: #183 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The censors in Beijing are still stuck in the 1950s.

There was a funny photo shared on social media here a few days ago showing a very embarrassed trucker picking up a box load of dildos that had fallen out of his truck. He really looked mortified as he was stooping down to pick up the scattered items from the road.

Heh that’s pretty funny.

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Jay C  May 29, 2016 • 8:40:23am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I think it would come as a surprise to many American social conservatives that their prudishness about sex is similar to Communists.

I think it would come as a surprise to American “conservatives” that a whole raft of their social/political attitudes are similar to Communism. Except for the atheism part, of course: I think if Marx and Lenin had claimed that Communism was inspired directly by God, it would probably have done considerably better…..

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The Vicious Babushka  May 29, 2016 • 8:42:06am

Here is MOAR DROOLING TRUMPLER FANFIC from the guy who took $500 from Pax & Chuckie to draw them a purty pikchur

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:42:12am

re: #185 Jay C

I think it would come as a surprise to American “conservatives” that a whole raft of their social/political attitudes are similar to Communism. Except for the atheism part, of course: I think if Marx and Lenin had claimed that Communism was inspired directly by God, it would probably have done considerably better…..

I do agree with that accessment.

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 8:42:33am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

Scam artist sez what?

The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular.
I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.

- Trump said that the so-called university “had an A rating from the Better Business Bureau.” Actually, it once had an “A+” rating, according to a Better Business Bureau spokeswoman. But its most recent rating was a “D-.”

- Trump claimed that “many of” the university’s instructors were “handpicked” by him. That’s not true. In a 2012 deposition, a top executive for Trump University said that “none of our instructors” was picked by Trump himself.

- Trump said that “98 percent of the people that took the courses … thought they were terrific.” That’s misleading. A class-action lawsuit against Trump alleges that the surveys were not anonymous and were filled out during or immediately after sessions when participants were still expecting to receive future benefits from the program.
factcheck.org

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:42:45am

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

Here is MOAR DROOLING TRUMPLER FANFIC from the guy who took $500 from Pax & Chuckie to draw them a purty pikchur

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From the man who complains about the ethnic background of his judge. Yeah a real adult, that is.

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Great White Snark  May 29, 2016 • 8:42:46am

re: #182 darthstar

If I was in a position where I needed to defend myself in the open air with a firearm, I’d want my .44-40 - Yeah, it’s a bit of a cowboy gun, but it holds 11 rounds, shoots straight, and the lever action means I’m not going to accidentally blow my neighbor’s kid’s face off getting it ready to clean.

You are not going to accidentally shoot anyone regardless of the brand or type in your hand. Just like you won’t back up over anyone in the car ‘cause you look first.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 29, 2016 • 8:43:25am

OK, I’d really like to stay, but I have morning classes that I kinda need to be awake for in another 8½ hours. So, good night all!

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Great White Snark  May 29, 2016 • 8:45:56am

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 29, 2016 • 8:46:20am

re: #151 jaunte

[Embedded content]

The Time Ted Cruz Defended a Ban on Dildos
motherjones.com

He wanted to ban himself?
/Guess I can’t blame him.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 8:46:58am

re: #193 Not a Sparkly Vampire

He wanted to ban himself?
/Guess I can’t blame him.

Dildos Varek not butt plugs.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 8:48:58am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

Here is the actual quote:

And that right there is the key to Trump. And it relates to something I read long ago about con artists - that the easiest people to con are the ones who think they deserve something for nothing. Sure, you can con honest people out of a buck or two by pretending to be destitute, but if you want to completely clean somebody out, you want to find the guy who thinks he deserves, for example, a huge finder’s fee for helping the widow of some African cabinet minister smuggle millions out of Nigeria.

Or in Trump’s case, that electing an ignorant bully President will get America all the fantastic things we deserve for being so exceptional.

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FormerDirtDart  May 29, 2016 • 8:49:05am

Lot of damp BBQ’s in South Carolina this weekend…

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stpaulbear  May 29, 2016 • 8:49:41am

re: #182 darthstar

If I was in a position where I needed to defend myself in the open air with a firearm…

American fantasies.

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 8:52:47am

The MRAP in the foreground is a Navistar Intl. Maxxpro, the most produced MRAP to date. I must say these look better in a war zone than on the streets of Ferguson, MO.

And to those Trumpkins reading this who would respond that Ferguson is/was a “War Zone”, I cordially invite you to take a long walk off a short pier.

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Great White Snark  May 29, 2016 • 8:53:31am

re: #197 stpaulbear

Right you were not here for the King riots when the police abandoned the neighborhoods and retail corridors for 3 days. The two relevant fantasies are that it can never happen and that today is the day

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 8:55:21am

re: #197 stpaulbear

American fantasies.

Darth’s got a decent idea, actually. He’s got a reliable weapon envisioned with a hard-hitting round. 44-40 will stop someone high on drugs or jihad, and stopping power is crucial for a self-defense firearm.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 8:58:42am

re: #200 Dark_Falcon

Darth’s got a decent idea, actually. He’s got a reliable weapon envisioned with a hard-hitting round. 44-40 will stop someone high on drugs or jihad, and stopping power is crucial for a self-defense firearm.

Great. So, the Urban Horde of Those People, or the MOOOZLIMZ!!! Another glimpse into the Republican mind.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 9:00:10am

Sometimes it’s braver not to be afraid. Full disclosure, I grew up not too far from the Pentagon. I had to duck during Muhammad and Malvo’s sniping rampage.

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 9:00:51am

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

Great. So, the Urban Horde of Those People, or the MOOOZLIMZ!!! Another glimpse into the Republican mind.

White people can get high on meth or PCP too, you know.

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Great White Snark  May 29, 2016 • 9:01:38am

Welp when “someone” Can be misrepresented as Urban Horde, it’s time to get to the kitchen and prepare something sweet and savory.

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Jay C  May 29, 2016 • 9:02:26am

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

And that right there is the key to Trump. And it relates to something I read long ago about con artists - that the easiest people to con are the ones who think they deserve something for nothing. Sure, you can con honest people out of a buck or two by pretending to be destitute, but if you want to completely clean somebody out, you want to find the guy who thinks he deserves, for example, a huge finder’s fee for helping the widow of some African cabinet minister smuggle millions out of Nigeria.

Or in Trump’s case, that electing an ignorant bully President will get America all the fantastic things we deserve for being so exceptional.

And The Donald’s experience in the ca$ino business (more so than real-estate development) is the perfect background for this sort of grifter approach. Gambling is the epitome of the get-something-for-nothing-with-a-little-luck mentality: big profits can always be made (The House Always Wins!) by relieving large hordes of hapless schmucks and shleppers of their money by treating them like kings and queens in expensive surroundings. Of course, they’ll still be the same schmucks and shleppers (just poorer) when they leave: but it seems to be human nature simply to chalk up said losing to “bad luck”, and only remember the affluence-by-association part.

Come to think of it, that’s Trump’s political approach in a nutshell…!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 29, 2016 • 9:03:20am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Sometimes it’s braver not to be afraid. Full disclosure, I grew up not too far from the Pentagon. I had to duck during Muhammad and Malvo’s sniping rampage.

One of those who were killed was just up Sudley Road near 66.
Just a 5 minute drive from my house.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 9:04:17am

I am not saying that fear is a bad thing but when you spend your entire life in fear and seeing people as a potential enemy, it’s a dangerous way to live. It’s how that professor gets kicked off the plane for doing mathematical equations. It’s how people get killed when they knock on someone’s door asking for help. And yes it’s how Treyvon Martin got killed. If George Zimmerman hadn’t profiled Treyvon, Treyvon would be alive today and Zimmerman would be just another bozo.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 29, 2016 • 9:04:53am

re: #86 Dr. Matt

It’s just a matter of time before Jeb and Cruz bow down to Herr Trump.

I expect Jeb will emulate W and stay silent on the state of Republican politics.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 9:05:07am

re: #206 Not a Sparkly Vampire

One of those who were killed was just up Sudley Road near 66.
Just a 5 minute drive from my house.

Damn not far at all. The closest one to me was the one in Falls Church I think.

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Jenner7  May 29, 2016 • 9:05:21am

I posted this fivethirtyeight.com on FB and got this from my sister:

Nate silver silks out to the Washington post, who has contributed to Hillary’s campaign. Nice try, but all lies as usual.

I just can’t. She’s lost it. I want this primary to be over.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 9:06:59am

re: #210 Jenner7

I posted this fivethirtyeight.com on FB and got this from my sister:

I just can’t. She’s lost it. I want this primary to be over.

One of the Bernie diehards I know is posting crap from Russia Today. I can’t wait for it to be over too. Still stunned that the Sanders campaign attempted to prohibit Barney fucking Frank from being on the platform committee but thought Cornel West was just fine.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 29, 2016 • 9:10:03am

I remember when the gas stations started putting up tarps around the pumps.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 9:11:32am

re: #204 Great White Snark

Welp when “someone” Can be misrepresented as Urban Horde, it’s time to get to the kitchen and prepare something sweet and savory.

MISinterpreted? I don’t think so. This is who most self-defense fantasies are about. It’s the very heart and soul of the NRA’s appeal - crime, committed by The Urban Horde Of Those People, or Terror, committed by the MOOZLIMZ!!!!

And because of that, lots and lots of easily frightened white folks whose actual risk is miniscule go out and buy guns to save them from stuff that was never going to touch them in the first place. Then they leave the guns where they can get to them, because “You Never Need A Gun Till You REALLY, REALLY Need One!”.

And of course, a small fraction of them are found by kids who then shoot themselves, or another kid, or a parent. We are now in greater danger of being accidentally shot by toddlers than of being shot by The Urban Horde, or the MOOZLIMZ!!!, because we had to arm ourselves to fend off The Urban Horde and the MOOZLIMZ!!! And all because we think in those terms.

Maybe we should think more along the lines of “Which gun can my 3 year old most effectively kill himself with?”

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 9:14:27am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

One of the Bernie diehards I know is posting crap from Russia Today. I can’t wait for it to be over too. Still stunned that the Sanders campaign attempted to prohibit Barney fucking Frank from being on the platform committee but thought Cornel West was just fine.

Pro-Tip for political activists: If your strategy for tearing down your opponent involves spearing Russian propaganda, then YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG!

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PhillyPretzel  May 29, 2016 • 9:14:34am

OT Just posted a page on those RFID cards and how to protect them. A homemade blocker of aluminum foil and duct tape works better than most of the commercially made blockers. littlegreenfootballs.com

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 9:14:54am

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

Pro-Tip for political activists: If your strategy for tearing down your opponent involves spearing Russian propaganda, then YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG!

Well Da.

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Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2016 • 9:17:00am

re: #213 Blind Frog Belly White

Simple answer to small children getting a-hold of guns: Gun safes. If someone wants to own a gun, they should store it in such a way as children cannot access it. This is not hard to do, and one can buy small safes that allow very fast access to a handgun but still keep it safe from children.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 29, 2016 • 9:18:35am

Pat Buchanan says Donald Trump is the “Great White Hope”
“Great Orange Dope” is more like it

Sample from that article:

In the popular culture of the ’40s and ’50s, white men were role models. They were the detectives and cops who ran down gangsters and the heroes who won World War II on the battlefields of Europe and in the islands of the Pacific.

They were doctors, journalists, lawyers, architects and clergy. White males were our skilled workers and craftsmen — carpenters, painters, plumbers, bricklayers, machinists, mechanics.

They were the Founding Fathers, Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Hamilton, and the statesmen, Webster, Clay and Calhoun.

Lincoln and every president had been a white male. Middle-class white males were the great inventors: Eli Whitney and Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell and the Wright Brothers.

They were the great capitalists: Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller, Henry Ford and J. P. Morgan. All the great captains of America’s wars were white males: Andrew Jackson and Sam Houston, Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee, U.S. Grant and John J. Pershing, Douglas MacArthur and George Patton.

What has changed in our culture? Everything.

The world has been turned upside-down for white children.

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b_sharp  May 29, 2016 • 9:18:54am

re: #210 Jenner7

I posted this fivethirtyeight.com on FB and got this from my sister:

I just can’t. She’s lost it. I want this primary to be over.

Do these donor purity ideologues not consider that candidates get donations from people & organizations that have conflicting desires? If candidates are so easily influenced by donors they must go through hell trying to decide which donor’s desires to honour.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 29, 2016 • 9:19:25am

More people are killed by gun owners irresponsibly leaving their guns out then are saved in self defense situations.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 9:22:13am

re: #220 Not a Sparkly Vampire

More people are killed by gun owners irresponsibly leaving their guns out then are saved in self defense situations.

And a lot of those people are kids.

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 9:22:15am

re: #87 Bass Reeves

Thank you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 9:25:01am

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

Simple answer to small children getting a-hold of guns: Gun safes. If someone wants to own a gun, they should store it in such a way as children cannot access it. This is not hard to do, and one can buy small safes that allow very fast access to a handgun but still keep it safe from children.

Simpler answer - fewer guns.

You seem to have skipped over the part where people talk themselves into thinking that ANY delay in having their gun in hand, loaded, and with a round in the chamber = death.

A friend I’d met on the internet invited me to come hunt with him in Montana. He and his wife EACH had a loaded handgun on their nightstand. Behind the bedroom door was a loaded 12 ga. which required only working the slide to chamber a round. I have no idea what it was in Bozeman MT he was expecting to have to defend himself from, but by god he was prepared!

Suffice to say, I made damn sure I didn’t drink anything after 8 PM, and fully emptied my bladder before bed, because I wasn’t going to get up in the middle of the night for love or money.

I don’t think I could stand to live like that, believing I had to take such precautions to avoid being raped or murdered in the middle of the night.

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sagehen  May 29, 2016 • 9:28:35am

re: #219 b_sharp

Do these donor purity ideologues not consider that candidates get donations from people & organizations that have conflicting desires? If candidates are so easily influenced by donors they must go through hell trying to decide which donor’s desires to honour.

Jesse Unruh on lobbyists:

“If you can’t eat their food, drink their booze, screw their women, take their money and then vote against them you’ve got no business being up here.”

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dangerman  May 29, 2016 • 9:30:36am

re: #213 Blind Frog Belly White

non-pro tip:

if a three year old - or actually, anyone, even a dog, can get to your weapon before you, it’s not performing its role as personal protection.

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Mattand  May 29, 2016 • 9:33:20am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

Pat Buchanan says Donald Trump is the “Great White Hope”
“Great Orange Dope” is more like it

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Sample from that article:

Still stuns me that Rachel Maddow is on speaking terms with this asshole.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 9:35:52am

re: #225 dangerman

non-pro tip:

if a three year old - or actually, anyone, even a dog, can get to your weapon before you, it’s not performing its role as personal protection.

Right. What if I’m in the living room, and somebody sneaks in the bedroom window? He’ll get my gun! I have to take it with me to the living room when I watch TV.

But what about when I have to pee? The gun will be in the living room, and I’ll be like Sonny was afraid Michael would be - coming out of the bathroom with nothing but my dick in my hands! I better take it with me!

But what do I do if I have to take a dump? My pants will be around my ankles! It’ll be hard to reach my holster! I have to have my gun in my hand!!!
///

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Mattand  May 29, 2016 • 9:37:35am

re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White

I think this paranoid mindset is a huge part of the problem with gun ownership. For every person who actually legitimately defends themselves with a gun from a criminal, there’s 10,000 more who will never, ever come close to being in that situation.

This desire to have your own rolling, challenge-the-local-National-Guard arsenal is a real sickness in the country.

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dangerman  May 29, 2016 • 9:38:29am

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

simplest answer: control your weapons at all times. face swift and severe consequences when you don’t.

this will sift out the irresponsible “others” in no time at all leaving nothing but responsible owners.

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 9:38:48am

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

GAZE

HW is one of the nicest people here, but whatever.

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 9:40:03am

re: #230 Nyet

HW is one of the nicest people here, but whatever.

He also made a very good and direct point on the topic.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 9:40:08am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

Holy shit!

Mind you, right there, Pat unintentionally makes an incredibly compelling case for Black History Month, greater minority participation in popular culture, and electing somebody who isn’t a white guy President.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 29, 2016 • 9:44:06am

GUNS FOR EVERYONE!
SEX TOYS FOR NO ONE!
-GOP

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 9:45:30am

re: #233 Not a Sparkly Vampire

GUNS FOR EVERYONE!
SEX TOYS FOR NO ONE!
-GOP

See, I prefer Kang’s compromise, guns for some, sex toys for others, and free american flags for everyone.

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 9:46:30am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 29, 2016 • 9:48:34am

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY.
Israel is a Socialist country, so they must hate Jews, amirite?

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 9:49:45am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY.
Israel is a Socialist country, so they must hate Jews, amirite?

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Oh to recall the good old days when conservatives hated socialists because tehy thought they were all Jews.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 9:52:04am

re: #231 allegro

He also made a very good and direct point on the topic.

I am still waiting for an answer too. DF, if your argument is that the government can’t ban assault weapons because they can’t demostrate the danger which frankly I think is a load of shit and secondly you do know that the gun lobby fights research on guns by the CDC. And finally, they have in fact supported bans on sex toys as well as pornography for over 18 year olds. I continue to be of the mind that most elected Republicans value guns more so than they do humanity and nothing has changed my mind.

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SoundGuy 2016  May 29, 2016 • 9:58:00am

I’m pro sex toys. Especially for the GOP. They need them.

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dangerman  May 29, 2016 • 10:02:41am

re: #239 SoundGuy 2016

for teaching aids or mollification?

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Lidane  May 29, 2016 • 10:04:23am
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PhillyPretzel  May 29, 2016 • 10:05:34am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Socialists who made the collective work and in a lot of cases still working. en.wikipedia.org

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sagehen  May 29, 2016 • 10:05:49am

re: #240 dangerman

for teaching aids or mollification?

Yes.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 10:05:54am

re: #83 darthstar

We apparently had some more sea lions move in with the mackerel and other bait fish that entered the harbor. I can hear them barking from my bedroom window.

Just got back from giving Banjo a splash. Throw a pod of dolphins into the mix. About 50-60 yards from shore…too far out to get a good pic with my phone…but got to see some nice jumps. Would have made a nice backdrop to one of the dozens of Banjo pics I pollute facebook with on a regular basis.

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stpaulbear  May 29, 2016 • 10:06:09am

Great. I just got an email from my wingnut sister warning me that I may not want to go to Gay Pride this year because “Ramadan starts the day after, and I am worried that they may target gays on GPD”. She then goes on to talk about how she’s welcomed Jesus Christ into her life and how she’d like me to do the same.

I’m at a loss as to how to respond. She got the message on how much I hated the vindictive crap she was posting on FB when I unfriended her, but now she sounds extra-committed to my salvation.

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PhillyPretzel  May 29, 2016 • 10:07:10am

re: #245 stpaulbear

I would not respond.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:07:23am

re: #242 PhillyPretzel

Socialists who made the collective work and in a lot of cases still working. en.wikipedia.org

But socialists are lazy. //

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:07:50am

re: #245 stpaulbear

Great. I just got an email from my wingnut sister warning me that I may not want to go to Gay Pride this year because “Ramadan starts the day after, and I am worried that they may target gays on GPD”. She then goes on to talk about how she’s welcomed Jesus Christ into her life and how she’d like me to do the same.

I’m at a loss as to how to respond. She got the message on how much I hated the vindictive crap she was posting on FB when I unfriended her, but now she sounds extra-committed to my salvation.

I wouldn’t even bother responding. I’m sorry she’s like this though. You don’t deserve that shit from anyone especially a sibling.

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calochortus  May 29, 2016 • 10:07:51am

re: #245 stpaulbear

Great. I just got an email from my wingnut sister warning me that I may not want to go to Gay Pride this year because “Ramadan starts the day after, and I am worried that they may target gays on GPD”. She then goes on to talk about how she’s welcomed Jesus Christ into her life and how she’d like me to do the same.

I’m at a loss as to how to respond. She got the message on how much I hated the vindictive crap she was posting on FB when I unfriended her, but now she sounds extra-committed to my salvation.

“Thank you for your concern.”
Optional: “I’ll send you a couple pics from the Pride Parade.”

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SoundGuy 2016  May 29, 2016 • 10:08:37am

re: #240 dangerman

for teaching aids or mollification?

Yes and hell yes.

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SoundGuy 2016  May 29, 2016 • 10:11:46am

re: #249 calochortus

“Thank you for your concern.”
Optional: “I’ll send you a couple pics from the Pride Parade.”

Send her a gift: covenantspice.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 10:13:47am

So, My wingnut cousin posts a link from Fox News for Memorial Day. The blurb is this:

Celebrate patriotism, bravery, service to our country and our fellow man - everything that makes America great.

I thought, “But every country, including Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia has these, at least that’s the perception. So if that’s ‘everything that makes America great’, how are we any better than they are? Surely those are simply in service to whatever it is that makes America great?”

But maybe I’m overthinking.

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makeitstop  May 29, 2016 • 10:14:01am

Hello, Lizards! Hope everyone is having a good holiday weekend thus far.

So…this guitar has turned up on Craig’s List out of Brooklyn. But not just any guitar - a 1965 Gibson SG Junior, which has long been my dream guitar. The downside is that the guitar, earlier on in its life, was in a house that caught fire. As a result, the guitar did not burn, but the original lacquer finish has blistered and bubbled, mostly on the neck.

I’m waiting for the guy to get back to me. He’s looking for an American Strat in trade. Since you gotta give to get, I’ve offered up a 2001 American Series Strat and a little cash if need be.

Cross your fingers on this one. If this deal goes through, I might be done dealing guitars altogether.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 10:16:00am

re: #245 stpaulbear

Great. I just got an email from my wingnut sister warning me that I may not want to go to Gay Pride this year because “Ramadan starts the day after, and I am worried that they may target gays on GPD”. She then goes on to talk about how she’s welcomed Jesus Christ into her life and how she’d like me to do the same.

I’m at a loss as to how to respond. She got the message on how much I hated the vindictive crap she was posting on FB when I unfriended her, but now she sounds extra-committed to my salvation.

Zeal of the newly converted. One of the most irritating things in the world. I had a sister who wen through a ‘Born Again’ phase. I basically ignored it as much as I could.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 10:16:15am

re: #200 Dark_Falcon

Darth’s got a decent idea, actually. He’s got a reliable weapon envisioned with a hard-hitting round. 44-40 will stop someone high on drugs or jihad, and stopping power is crucial for a self-defense firearm.

Jesus…you’re not helping. For fuck’s sake, I’m a pacifist. If someone’s high on drugs I’m certainly not going to want to harsh their mellow. I take it you’ve never smoked a joint before as well as handled a gun.

re: #197 stpaulbear

American fantasies.

Yeah…pretty much.

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SoundGuy 2016  May 29, 2016 • 10:17:38am

Patriotism is entirely American. It never existed before America.

If you’re patriotic and not American you hate America and are probably a socialist/communist/percussionist.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 10:18:29am

re: #255 darthstar

Jesus…you’re not helping. For fuck’s sake, I’m a pacifist. If someone’s high on drugs I’m certainly not going to want to harsh their mellow. I take it you’ve never smoked a joint before as well as handled a gun.

“Dude! We’ve got some brownies!”

‘Get back, you dirty hippie! I’m armed, and I’m not afraid to shoot!’

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 10:19:39am

re: #257 Blind Frog Belly White

“Dude! We’ve got some brownies!”

‘Get back, you dirty hippie! I’m armed, and I’m not afraid to shoot!’

You know what else will stop someone high on drugs? A rhetorical question.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 10:21:28am

re: #258 darthstar

You know what else will stop someone high on drugs? A rhetorical question.

Or leave a couple cans of Pringles around. Those things work like the banana-in-a-box monkey trap for stoners.

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Tigger2  May 29, 2016 • 10:21:37am

Lets Hope.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:22:40am

re: #260 Tigger2

Lets Hope.

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Good. McCain deserves to be retired for becoming a pathetic right wing hack since Obama beat him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 29, 2016 • 10:23:56am
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 29, 2016 • 10:23:57am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Good. McCain deserves to be retired for becoming a pathetic right wing hack since Obama beat him.

Though, to be fair, he became a right wing hack in order to be given a chance for Obama to beat him.

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Tigger2  May 29, 2016 • 10:24:09am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Good. McCain deserves to be retired for becoming a pathetic right wing hack since Obama beat him.

Yeah, even as a Dem I used to respect him, that is gone now.

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 10:24:49am
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No Depression  May 29, 2016 • 10:25:09am

Woah Chuck Todd called Sanders out on his bullshit:

NBC Host To Sanders: Your Take On Superdelegates Is A Bit ‘Hypocritical’

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:25:16am

re: #264 Tigger2

Yeah, even as a Dem I used to respect him, that is gone now.

Me too. It’s honestly sad what he’s become.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:25:44am

re: #265 jaunte

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Trump’s bigoted jackals would probably boo her for being Latina.

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 10:26:32am

re: #265 jaunte

What’s the event?

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:26:43am

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

Though, to be fair, he became a right wing hack in order to be given a chance for Obama to beat him.

True that.

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Tigger2  May 29, 2016 • 10:26:47am

re: #262 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Liquor store gets smashed as man in stolen front-end loader leads cops on chase

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Video

I love super high speed chases. /////

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 10:27:55am

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

Though, to be fair, he became a right wing hack in order to be given a chance for Obama to beat him.

He didn’t sell out. He just embraced his true nature. I’m done defending him by saying he was manipulated into becoming a bigot. That doesn’t happen. Not to adults.

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Skip Intro  May 29, 2016 • 10:28:20am

re: #265 jaunte

While she was fighting the VC, Trump was waging a desperate battle against the VD. I can tell you that what she went through was nothing compared to this, I can tell you.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 29, 2016 • 10:28:26am

re: #266 No Depression

Woah Chuck Todd called Sanders out on his bullshit:

NBC Host To Sanders: Your Take On Superdelegates Is A Bit ‘Hypocritical’

There was some story posted here the other day about Jake Tapper, and I asked myself: “Self, when did he shave off his face mullet?” Honestly, I didn’t realize until that moment that Jake Tapper and Chuck Todd were two different people.

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 10:29:15am

re: #273 Skip Intro

“The clap don’t surf.”

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 10:29:52am

Too obscure for a Trump sticker?

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 10:30:17am

Charles is funny when he’s done with people.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 29, 2016 • 10:31:09am

re: #277 darthstar

Charles is funny when he’s done with people.

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“A mission to assassinate civilization”?
The fuck does that even mean.

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SoundGuy 2016  May 29, 2016 • 10:31:25am

No difference between wingnuts and Bernie cultists:

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Skip Intro  May 29, 2016 • 10:31:45am

re: #272 darthstar

He didn’t sell out. He just embraced his true nature. I’m done defending him by saying he was manipulated into becoming a bigot. That doesn’t happen. Not to adults.

McCain’s lived a charmed life. A rotten student becomes a rotten pilot becomes a corrupt politician, and to top it all off he chooses the most incompetent person in history to be his VP.

It’s time to go away, John.

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SoundGuy 2016  May 29, 2016 • 10:32:20am

re: #278 Not a Sparkly Vampire

“A mission to assassinate civilization”?
The fuck does that even mean.

It means, like, stuff. Evil stuff man.

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PhillyPretzel  May 29, 2016 • 10:32:35am

re: #278 Not a Sparkly Vampire

It just sounds nasty. It is the only way they know how to express themselves.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:32:55am

re: #272 darthstar

He didn’t sell out. He just embraced his true nature. I’m done defending him by saying he was manipulated into becoming a bigot. That doesn’t happen. Not to adults.

I always thought when we saw that defense of him and the other ‘moderates’ that it makes them look even worse.

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darthstar  May 29, 2016 • 10:33:12am

re: #278 Not a Sparkly Vampire

“A mission to assassinate civilization”?
The fuck does that even mean.

Still trying to work that one out myself. Sounds exciting though.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:34:59am

Civilization Assassins is my surf rock band.

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No Depression  May 29, 2016 • 10:35:13am

re: #279 SoundGuy 2016

No difference between wingnuts and Bernie cultists:

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They do have a lot in common: delusional, intellectually dishonest, humorless, sanctimonious, impervious to counter-evidence, susceptible to conspiratorial thinking, etc.

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Tigger2  May 29, 2016 • 10:36:19am
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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2016 • 10:36:29am

You can now tweet Trump bumper stickers you create, directly from the Generator page.

I replaced the lame official Tweet button with a custom button that will log you into Twitter (if you’re not already) and automatically tweet your bumper sticker image.

There’s also now a “Download” button to let you easily save the image to your browser’s download directory with one click.

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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2016 • 10:37:05am
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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:37:16am

re: #287 Tigger2

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But Clinton hates veterans. Veterans are only props to Herr Drumpf.

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 10:38:11am

re: #279 SoundGuy 2016

Wingnut news sources were very excited about that story, but Rodham apparently isn’t making anything out of the pvc pipe stuck in the ground in Haiti:

“…Viard stressed that Rodham was not involved in the effort to win the permit from the Haitian government, which was granted months before Rodham joined the board.

He said Rodham was compensated with stock options that will not vest unless the project is a success. He said Rodham has not landed any investors, adding, “It sounds like people were not interested in Haiti.”

Rodham confirmed that he has received stock options in VCS and that they have not yet vested, saying, “Never seen ‘em.”

washingtonpost.com

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 10:40:56am

Anyone want to talk about good guys with guns?

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Unabogie  May 29, 2016 • 10:41:43am

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 10:43:31am

Active/random shooter in the Memorial area of West Houston, one of the wealthiest (and whitest) neighborhoods in the city.

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Stanley Sea  May 29, 2016 • 10:44:30am

Thanks to Jaunte for retweeting

re: #294 jaunte

Active/random shooter in the Memorial area of West Houston, one of the wealthiest (and whitest) neighborhoods in the city.

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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 10:44:31am
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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 10:45:33am

2 dead said to include shooter.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  May 29, 2016 • 10:47:21am

Rant

Ok, what’s with Berniebros not getting that if you remove the super delegates right freaking now, that Bernie STILL LOSES?

/Rant

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PhillyPretzel  May 29, 2016 • 10:48:33am

re: #298 Not a Sparkly Vampire

They are not too good at math. /

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originalben  May 29, 2016 • 10:48:34am

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Citizens do not need to justify to the government why they wish to own someone.

Dr. Freud to exam room one, STAT. Chronic Conservative Cognitive Dissonance truth slip.

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PhillyPretzel  May 29, 2016 • 10:49:35am

I got to go and catch the bus back to Philly. I will be back later. :)

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Tigger2  May 29, 2016 • 10:50:24am
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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2016 • 10:50:59am
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jaunte  May 29, 2016 • 10:51:37am

One suspect is dead and another is wounded in an active shooter scene in West Houston still in progress. A resident was also found dead inside a vehicle.
chron.com

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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2016 • 10:51:49am
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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:52:26am

re: #303 Charles Johnson

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No kidding.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:53:24am

re: #305 Charles Johnson

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It’s sad to see veterans support a guy who thinks his dating experiences are comparable to combat.

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:54:07am

re: #298 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Rant

Ok, what’s with Berniebros not getting that if you remove the super delegates right freaking now, that Bernie STILL LOSES?

/Rant

He’s also lost plenty of open primary states too.

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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2016 • 10:54:19am
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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 10:55:08am

re: #309 Charles Johnson

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They love assholes but hate bitches.

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thedopefishlives  May 29, 2016 • 10:57:03am

Afternoon Lizardim. Beautiful day in the wild north country, as I watch the 500 back home in fish country. Live streaming is a wonderful thing. How go things among the lizardfolk on this gorgeous Sunday afternoon?

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Great White Snark  May 29, 2016 • 10:57:16am
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Great White Snark  May 29, 2016 • 11:01:52am

re: #311 thedopefishlives

Afternoon Lizardim. Beautiful day in the wild north country, as I watch the 500 back home in fish country. Live streaming is a wonderful thing. How go things among the lizardfolk on this gorgeous Sunday afternoon?

Hey! Win 10 went into my Toshiba laptop smooth as glass. Also watching Indy. *snerk* How could I not?

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thedopefishlives  May 29, 2016 • 11:03:33am

re: #313 Great White Snark

Hey! Win 10 went into my Toshiba laptop smooth as glass. Also watching Indy. *snerk* How could I not?

Mrs. Fish got involuntarily upgraded to Windows 10 last weekend. She still hates it.

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dangerman  May 29, 2016 • 11:06:38am

re: #298 Not a Sparkly Vampire

two person race
odd number of total pledged delegates
at the end one of those two persons will have more

this barely qualifies as math

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b_sharp  May 29, 2016 • 11:07:20am

re: #314 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish got involuntarily upgraded to Windows 10 last weekend. She still hates it.

She can un-upgrade for 30 days.

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Romantic Heretic  May 29, 2016 • 11:09:00am

re: #252 Blind Frog Belly White

Warning: Picture at first link is graphic. The second is very sad.

Maybe send him this link.

Or this one.

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thedopefishlives  May 29, 2016 • 11:09:28am

re: #316 b_sharp

She can un-upgrade for 30 days.

She’s adjusting. I told her that it’s essentially inevitable. It kinda sucks that Microsoft can unilaterally own her computer like that, but that’s what you get for renting software from a proprietary company.

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Alephnaught  May 29, 2016 • 11:09:58am

re: #309 Charles Johnson

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Didn’t John Cole of Balloon Juice theorise a few years ago that the Republican party had essentially become the party of assholes, and for assholes? (And yes, he specifically use the word “assholes”.

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calochortus  May 29, 2016 • 11:10:19am

re: #305 Charles Johnson

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Need a bumper sticker…

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dangerman  May 29, 2016 • 11:10:55am

re: #314 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish got involuntarily upgraded to Windows 10 last weekend. She still hates it.

both mom and MIL got warningless upgraded last week. Backed out mom’s. MIL’s stuck.
Insidious

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thedopefishlives  May 29, 2016 • 11:11:45am

re: #321 dangerman

both mom and MIL got warningless upgraded last week. Backed out mom’s. MIL’s stuck.
Insidious

Father-in-law got hit two weeks ago. He had an error occur and it automatically rolled back. He’ll wind up getting assimilated sooner or later, though. Resistance is futile.

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calochortus  May 29, 2016 • 11:13:17am

re: #303 Charles Johnson

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I’m smart enough to understand climate science, I’m just not trained in that area, nor do I have any research experience with it, so I listen to those who are experts.

Perhaps Johnson isn’t smart enough to be in public office?

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Great White Snark  May 29, 2016 • 11:14:22am

re: #314 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish got involuntarily upgraded to Windows 10 last weekend. She still hates it.

Our unkind “thanks” from Microsoft for setting updates to automatic to keep their operating system secure on our machines. Our how we pay for stuff machines. Grrr

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Stanley Sea  May 29, 2016 • 11:14:36am

Have a great weekend everyone!

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Romantic Heretic  May 29, 2016 • 11:15:16am

re: #277 darthstar

Ironic that a barbarian would worry about something like civilization.

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b_sharp  May 29, 2016 • 11:19:50am

re: #321 dangerman

both mom and MIL got warningless upgraded last week. Backed out mom’s. MIL’s stuck.
Insidious

howtogeek.com

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Nyet  May 29, 2016 • 11:20:35am

A Russian parody on patriotism (or what passes for it these days). Too bad there are no subs.

Leningrad — I’m a true patriot

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Jay C  May 29, 2016 • 11:21:26am

re: #289 Charles Johnson

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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

Charles’ that is - not what Travis suggested (that may take a little more time).

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calochortus  May 29, 2016 • 11:25:51am

By the way, do I understand correctly that the Libertarians have chosen their candidate before the primaries are over? Did they get an early bird discount on the convention hall or something?

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Charles Johnson  May 29, 2016 • 11:26:09am
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Barefoot Grin  May 29, 2016 • 11:37:58am

re: #253 makeitstop

Hello, Lizards! Hope everyone is having a good holiday weekend thus far.

So…this guitar has turned up on Craig’s List out of Brooklyn. But not just any guitar - a 1965 Gibson SG Junior, which has long been my dream guitar. The downside is that the guitar, earlier on in its life, was in a house that caught fire. As a result, the guitar did not burn, but the original lacquer finish has blistered and bubbled, mostly on the neck.

I’m waiting for the guy to get back to me. He’s looking for an American Strat in trade. Since you gotta give to get, I’ve offered up a 2001 American Series Strat and a little cash if need be.

Cross your fingers on this one. If this deal goes through, I might be done dealing guitars altogether.

I had one nearly that vintage when I was first learning guitar in about 1978. My parents bought it from a guy at church. I then traded it for a non-reverse Firebird because MORE P-90s! What a dumbass. I wish I had that SG Jr.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2016 • 11:47:05am

good grief

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HappyWarrior  May 29, 2016 • 11:50:49am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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Is Trump proud of the men that died instead of him so he could chase tail?

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 11:53:56am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

Is Trump proud of the men that died instead of him so he could chase tail?

I just wonder since he is neither vet nor dead who’s this ‘we’ shit?

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stpaulbear  May 29, 2016 • 11:55:34am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

I wouldn’t even bother responding. I’m sorry she’s like this though. You don’t deserve that shit from anyone especially a sibling.

I had to respond. I let her know that I wasn’t afraid of attacks at Pride. I also told her that I don’t buy into her apocalyptic version of Christianity but I believed in the Golden Rule. I said this stuff as politely as possible but pointed out that if she still felt I was damned, then that was her belief, not mine. I hope she doesn’t try to push this at family gatherings (which are usually pretty small).

Her original message mentions a guy named Robert Breaker as her current hero. I Googled him and I’m going to assume he’s pure creationist wingnut poison. I couldn’t find any links that I was willing to click on. Anyone know about him?

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calochortus  May 29, 2016 • 11:56:43am

re: #335 allegro

I just wonder since he is neither vet nor dead who’s this ‘we’ shit?

‘Muricans!!!!!

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thedopefishlives  May 29, 2016 • 12:04:06pm

re: #337 calochortus

‘Muricans!!!!!

I’m sure that’s what he meant, given how he’s all AMERICA FUCK YEAH!

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SoundGuy 2016  May 29, 2016 • 12:06:25pm

Time to refresh your Mad Bernie Math Skillz:

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 12:06:29pm

re: #338 thedopefishlives

I’m sure that’s what he meant, given how he’s all AMERICA FUCK YEAH!

I musta missed that. All I’ve heard from him is TRUMP FUCK YEAH!

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thedopefishlives  May 29, 2016 • 12:07:59pm

re: #340 allegro

I musta missed that. All I’ve heard from him is TRUMP FUCK YEAH!

While true, on the face of it, he’s supposedly proposing to “Make America great again,” so he’s at least trying to give the impression of hyper-patriotism.

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allegro  May 29, 2016 • 12:09:40pm

re: #341 thedopefishlives

While true, on the face of it, he’s supposedly proposing to “Make America great again,” so he’s at least trying to give the impression of hyper-patriotism.

More like Mighty Mouse here to save the daaaaaay! Cuz America sucks. Sez so right on his hat.

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makeitstop  May 29, 2016 • 12:10:41pm

re: #332 Barefoot Grin

I had one nearly that vintage when I was first learning guitar in about 1978. My parents bought it from a guy at church. I then traded it for a non-reverse Firebird because MORE P-90s! What a dumbass. I wish I had that SG Jr.

I’ve always wanted one, even going so far as to convert a ‘71 SG II (inferior Norlin model) to a single P-90. It comes close sonically, but there’s still just something about the way they look…

This one’s even got that Vibrola that everyone takes off. Which I’ll probably do when I get it and I’ll just end up using the wrap bridge.

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blueraven  May 29, 2016 • 12:18:42pm
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Dave In Austin  May 29, 2016 • 12:21:24pm
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Dave In Austin  May 29, 2016 • 12:23:59pm

Charles, when I attempt to do a direct Tweet out of my image library I’m getting a Error 401 message. Using Chrome off my Mac.

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blueraven  May 29, 2016 • 12:31:29pm

Oh Lord, please stop this insanity.

Donald Trump asserted that more than half a million people attempted to attend his speech to the Rolling Thunder bikers DC Sunday.

“We have the biggest rallies by far, far bigger than Bernie Sanders,’” he told a crowd in front of the Lincoln Memorial on the National Mall. “Far bigger. I mean, look at today. They say you have 600,000 people here trying to get in.”

“That’s not gonna happen,” he added. “But they say you have 600,000 people.”

A crowd count wasn’t immediately available, but the space in front of the Lincoln Memorial was far from filled up.

Trump said he expected his speech would be reminiscent of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., referring to King’s 1963 “I Have A Dream” speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, but that crowd restrictions kept it from being as big.

“I thought this would be like Dr. Martin Luther King where people were lined up from here all the way to the Washington Monument,” he said. “But unfortunately they aren’t allowed to come in.”

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Tigger2  May 29, 2016 • 12:32:15pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 29, 2016 • 12:32:55pm

During the 2000s The Motley Fool gang shorted Trump’s stock and did quite well riding it down before they closed their position.

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Dave In Austin  May 29, 2016 • 12:34:22pm
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Teukka  May 29, 2016 • 12:36:32pm

Charles, yer RSS feed seems invalid, w3c’s validator produces the following complaints and my secondary feed reader nopes it.
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2016 • 12:36:50pm

re: #311 thedopefishlives

Afternoon Lizardim. Beautiful day in the wild north country, as I watch the 500 back home in fish country. Live streaming is a wonderful thing. How go things among the lizardfolk on this gorgeous Sunday afternoon?

Helping my brother stack wood this morning. Thunderstorm just rolled through so we’re drinking beer and playing cards. Took a hike yesterday over in the Finger Lakes. Hot and muggy, but having fun. Real vacation begins on Wednesday.

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thedopefishlives  May 29, 2016 • 12:40:57pm

re: #352 Feline Fearless Leader

Helping my brother stack wood this morning. Thunderstorm just rolled through so we’re drinking beer and playing cards. Took a hike yesterday over in the Finger Lakes. Hot and muggy, but having fun. Real vacation begins on Wednesday.

In another week and a half, I am going up north to visit my folks, who are renting a cabin starting next weekend for their annual fishing vacation. I am SO looking forward to that.

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Barefoot Grin  May 29, 2016 • 12:48:46pm

re: #343 makeitstop

I’ve always wanted one, even going so far as to convert a ‘71 SG II (inferior Norlin model) to a single P-90. It comes close sonically, but there’s still just something about the way they look…

This one’s even got that Vibrola that everyone takes off. Which I’ll probably do when I get it and I’ll just end up using the wrap bridge.

I ended up taking the tremolo bar off of the Firebird. One pull and the whole thing was out of tune.


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