House of Waters - “Sense”

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Here’s a band unlike anything you’ve seen before, a trio featuring hammered dulcimer as lead instrument. But these guys are all fantastic players.

House of Waters plays “Sense” off of their newest record - Revolution. Available now on iTunes.

Max ZT - Hammered Dulcimer
Moto Fukushima - Six String Bass
Luke Notary - Percussion

www.houseofwaters.com

Management:
Guy Eckstine
Iconique Music Group
info@iconiquemusicgroup.com

For bookings, contact:
The Agency Group
Laura Dunaway
lauradunaway@theagencygroup.com

Production by Cinealpha Video Engineering

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1
Lidane  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:26:02pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:27:31pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:28:22pm

Repost.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:28:53pm
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Belafon  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:29:14pm

My dad was in Vietnam, so you don’t bring up Ali around my mother.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:31:17pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:35:55pm

I can’t even begin to imagine what’s going on at the wingnut sites with the news of Ali’s death.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:36:19pm

I love it! It suits my mood perfectly tonight.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:37:14pm

Too sad. I met the man, all too briefly, in 2006. He made a rare public appearance at the Muhammad Ali Center, which is not far from where I used to teach. The PE teacher and I took a group of freshmen to the Center, and I asked if we could have a photo with the Champ. We got it. I can’t reprint it here, for reasons of privacy, etc., but it really did happen. It’s been a treasured possession ever since.

Ali didn’t/couldn’t talk much, because of the Parkinson’s. When we left, I said, “Thanks, Champ!” And he smiled back.

RIP, Champ.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:37:21pm

re: #8 retired cynic

I love it! It suits my mood perfectly tonight.

Boy, that didn’t work in sequence. I meant the music, certainly not the loss of Ali.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:39:19pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:41:02pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

I read once that Bruce Lee adapted Ali’s footwork for his martial arts style.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:44:44pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:46:52pm

The greatest sports photograph ever taken. Ali knocks out Cleveland Williams at the Astrodome in 1966. Photo: Neil Leifer.

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Great White Snark  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:47:07pm

re: #12 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I read once that Bruce Lee adapted Ali’s footwork for his martial arts style.

The very heart of JKD was to adapt the best of the best into your own personal style by way of physicality and aptitude. So much went into what he had on top of being some kind of athletic prodigy.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:47:16pm

re: #13 Ace-o-aces

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zing

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:48:01pm

re: #13 Ace-o-aces

I wonder if anyone ever explained it to him.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:48:52pm

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:49:38pm

Never seen anything like it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:50:22pm

re: #15 Great White Snark

The very heart of JKD was to adapt the best of the best into your own personal style by way of physicality and aptitude. So much went into what he had on top of being some kind of athletic prodigy.

Yeah, Lee had a kind of superpower in that regard. His “one-inch punch” that knocked a guy to the ground was pretty impressive.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:53:06pm

re: #13 Ace-o-aces

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Exactly. He needs to be called out on that. RIP, Mr. Ali. You were a legend and will be missed.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:53:25pm

re: #19 Ace-o-aces

Actually it’s 10/10. I didn’t realize what #GOAT stood for.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:56:10pm

A funny comment at Daily Kos:

I checked, I have condiments in my fridge that have been there longer then Sanders has been a democrat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2016 • 9:59:10pm

re: #7 Billy Batts

I can’t even begin to imagine what’s going on at the wingnut sites with the news of Ali’s death.

You don’t want to see the comments over at Breitbart. You really don’t.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:00:13pm

Get this straight, pissed-off white Berners in the comments: if you say out loud with your mouth that you are okay with the normalization of racism, then you are racist as fuck. You don’t have to “know what his policy is” if you acknowledge that Donald Trump is mainstreaming racism because you know they will be racist, but if you’re a rich white lady with a purse dog, you don’t have to care.

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Great White Snark  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:00:36pm

re: #20 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He could do that like almost nobody else. The brilliance of it was how well it worked for anyone that practiced it right. Anyway got to get an early start tomorrow. So gonna just leave a little something from last weeks hummingbirds.

Pollen Nation
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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:00:59pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

You don’t want to see the comments over at Breitbart. You really don’t.

I wish I could be surprised but I’m not. An African-American, Muslim, and an outspoken one at that. Ali really was one of a kind. He literally is the first man I think of and I think most people think of when they hear the word boxer and he was one of a kind.

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Jenner7  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:06:58pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:08:36pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

You don’t want to see the comments over at Breitbart. You really don’t.

Congratulations to everyone who had “Breitbart Commentors” in the “who will be the first to say something racist/Islamaphobic about Ali” pool.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:09:24pm

It just isn’t a deal breaker

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nines09  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:10:03pm

Goodnight all. Mike Ness will moan the lullabye. Sax will bring you to tears and the base line will walk out on you.

Mike Ness-“No Man’s Friend” from “Cheating at Solitaire”

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:12:57pm

aaah lol

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:14:23pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:17:09pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

I wish I could be surprised but I’m not. An African-American, Muslim, and an outspoken one at that. Ali really was one of a kind. He literally is the first man I think of and I think most people think of when they hear the word boxer and he was one of a kind.

I once came across a sidewalk vendor in China selling coffee mugs and tea cups. I’ve had an Ali coffee mug now for 7 years. Cost me 50 cents.

Bought in China, for 50 cents. Still priceless
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:17:59pm
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blueraven  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:27:37pm

RIP my old friend. Loved his spirit!

I listened to the “Cassius Clay” vs Floyd Patterson match on the radio when I was just a wee lass with my favorite uncle. Just me and him. It was a bonding moment and one that led me to a love for boxing and especially Muhammad Ali.

Went to watch the Thrilla in Manila on Closed Circuit tv in New Orleans 1975. Joe Frazier was badass. Much respect. But Ali won. It was something!

Finally saw him live when he won the championship for the third time against Leon Spinks at the Superdome in NOLA, 1978.

He was indeed, The Greatest!

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Lidane  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:29:49pm

The comments are about what you’d expect.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:40:05pm

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electrotek  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:44:41pm

Instagram

Two of my favs, dearly beloved by all, we are gathered here today, now together in #heaven #floatlikeabutterfly #stinglikeabee May Allah bless him on his ascendancy to Jannah truly #thegreatest #ali #muhammadali #cassiusclay #goat RIP brother you always be #thegreatestofalltime #malcolmx #prince #thrillainmanila #proudmuslimamerican #boxing #rip #legend #hero #civilrightshero #Islam #africanamerican #vietnamwar #ripchamp #ripmuhammadali #ripali #restinpeace #louisville #kentucky #unicef

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:48:05pm

One fine damn Kentuckian. Possibly the most influential one ever, or close to it.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:49:46pm

My two cents. A tweet of mine is a minute mote of dust compared to the sense of loss us good people have had in 2016.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:53:48pm

Shitstorm of biblical dimensions on the RWNJ sites. Some freepers are actually praising Ali and expressing real condolences but they are no match for the haters, in either numbers or ferocity.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:55:41pm

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel

That’s why I don’t get out of the boat. I don’t want that hate taking up any more space in my brain cells. There are few enough of them as it is. I’ll leave that to you braver souls, and hope I don’t know anyone like that.

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mroop  Jun 3, 2016 • 10:57:43pm

I finally know what a dulcimer is, very nice. It sounds like the bass player is also playing lead, tasty and melodic!

In honor of Ali, here is Celia Cruz and the Fania All Stars playing Quimbara at the Rumble In The Jungle - Zaire 1974. Salsa!

Celia Cruz & The Fania All Stars - Quimbara - Zaire, Africa 1974

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electrotek  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:01:20pm

In honor of the Greatest that has ever lived, I present you an old Faithless video honoring him

Faithless - Muhammad Ali

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:04:06pm

I keep forgetting about the private tags, so I’m going to post that photo I mentioned. Turns out it was from 2007. You can probably figure out which is me in the photo.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:05:38pm

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel

Shitstorm of biblical dimensions on the RWNJ sites. Some freepers are actually praising Ali and expressing real condolences but they are no match for the haters, in either numbers or ferocity.

What the frick?!? You own one of these of somethin’?

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:05:50pm

re: #33 Stanley Sea

aaah lol

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“Going up on the ropes is a beautiful thing.”

Muhammad Ali

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electrotek  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:10:14pm

I hate this asshole so much.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:10:42pm

re: #45 mroop

I finally know what a dulcimer is, very nice. It sounds like the bass player is also playing lead, tasty and melodic!

In honor of Ali, here is Celia Cruz and the Fania All Stars playing Quimbara at the Rumble In The Jungle - Zaire 1974. Salsa!

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Azúcar!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:13:57pm

Speaking at a Democratic National Committee fundraiser in Miami on Friday, President Barack Obama expressed his support for his party’s embattled chairwoman — Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

“She’s had my back, I want to make sure we have her back,” he said.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:18:40pm

re: #50 electrotek

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I hate this asshole so much.

So Jasser is suggesting Ali became a Muslim so he could dodge military service? Or something like that?

Fuck him

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:26:33pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:39:00pm

I think the 103F temp today killed all the crane flies. Normally I have a few around my monitor if the door is open a crack. The door has been open 4 feet wide since it started cooling off after sunset, no bugs, not even a moth or a leafhopper now that I think about it.

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ramex  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:47:20pm

The song came up at karaoke tonight. In an innocent way, it reeked of Trump’s Vagina’Nam comments on Howard Stern. He is a hideous pig man. His belief that every vagina is a landline is about to become very true. Votes blowing up in his dumb-ass face.

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Altermite  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:47:48pm

re: #55 Single-handed sailor

They’re too smart to go out in that kinda weather,

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 3, 2016 • 11:55:00pm

re: #57 Altermite

They’re too smart to go out in that kinda weather,

Probably chillin’ with tiny beers and chips somewhere.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:21:15am

re: #56 ramex

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The song came up at karaoke tonight. In an innocent way, it reeked of Trump’s Vagina’Nam comments on Howard Stern. He is a hideous pig man. His belief that every vagina is a landline is about to become very true. Votes blowing up in his dumb-ass face.

I’m gonna guess you meant ‘landMine’.

Unless you meant ‘landline’ because women all talk to each other…
/////

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:24:39am

I was looking at Fox News on the web, they have many articles about Muhammad Ali’s passing. Not one of the articles allows comments. It’s almost like they are afraid to show off the overt racism of their readers.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:49:30am

But the real target of Ali’s roundhouse was Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

The statement never mentions Trump by name — but its headline is “Presidential Candidates Proposing to Ban Muslim Immigration to the United States.”

…

Ali’s punch came just three days after Trump said on Twitter that he couldn’t recall any great American Muslim athletes — even though he’s met Ali several times.

I am a Muslim and there is nothing Islamic about killing innocent people in Paris, San Bernardino, or anywhere else in the world. True Muslims know that the ruthless violence of so called Islamic Jihadists goes against the very tenets of our religion.

We as Muslims have to stand up to those who use Islam to advance their own personal agenda. They have alienated many from learning about Islam. True Muslims know or should know that it goes against our religion to try and force Islam on anybody.

Speaking as someone who has never been accused of political correctness, I believe that our political leaders should use their position to bring understanding about the religion of Islam and clarify that these misguided murderers have perverted people’s views on what Islam really is.

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Ming5000  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:12:14am

My morning read now includes catching up with the last few LGF threads. So many good comments and links.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:37:56am

Huh?

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:48:33am

re: #50 electrotek

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I hate this asshole so much.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:14:26am

I was at Ft. Knox when Ali was fighting his most important fight:

“An officer warned him he was committing a felony punishable by five years in prison and a fine of $10,000. Once more, Ali refused to budge when his name was called. As a result, on that same day, the New York State Athletic Commission suspended his boxing license and the World Boxing Association stripped him of his title.”

If he had entered the Army, he would have been offered a sweet Morale/Welfare gig touring bases. Instead, he paid a price. He showed no deficit of courage.

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Alyosha  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:46:03am
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Alyosha  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:57:48am

I can’t recall who posted the link to the article comparing Zachary Taylor’s bid for President on behalf of the largely-horrified Whigs and how it subsequently sank the party itself and Trump’s complicated relationship with the GOP. The thrust was mostly concerned with establishing parallels between his outsider lifestyle and Trump’s.
One thing that caught my attention was its allusion to Taylor’s disdain for military finery while on campaign, saying he favoured a straw hat.

A. Straw. Hat.

Hmmm..

(Edited)

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weave  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:59:04am

The Hill: Sanders: We are not going to defeat Trump by throwing eggs

What he NEEDS to say is

“We are not going to defeat Trump by voting for Jill Stein”

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Alyosha  Jun 4, 2016 • 3:22:38am
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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 3:56:37am

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

That sucks, although it’s a loyalty thing so also understandable.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 4:02:02am

re: #70 Nyet

That sucks, although it’s a loyalty thing so also understandable.

There’s no way she was going to be replaced before the election, she’s leaving after the election, it was a cost-free way of reassuring the party faithful of stability going into the real campaign season.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 4:02:54am

re: #71 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

True.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 4, 2016 • 4:13:04am

re: #71 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There’s no way she was going to be replaced before the election, she’s leaving after the election, it was a cost-free way of reassuring the party faithful of stability going into the real campaign season.

Yeah I’m no fan of Debbie’s but people should remember that Party Chair is a dogshit, thankless job even when things are going perfectly. She has issues, but Sanders attacks on her Barney Frank and Dan Malloy were deeply counterproductive. He should be focusing on what parts of the policies he ran on he can place into official DNC planks. Instead he’s flailing about like an asshole, making enemies pointlessly and yelling demands about idiotic primary rules changes that can’t help him now and will never happen because they’re strategically and logically retarded.

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VegasGolfer  Jun 4, 2016 • 4:18:35am



Ali on why he wasn’t going to fight in Vietnam.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 4:20:39am

Crafty Orangutan Builds His Own Hammock

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 4:23:41am

Cat massage.

facebook.com

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 4:44:14am

Me, today.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:01:41am

re: #64 Ace-o-aces

@YasirQadhi sorry, but no way!Yes he was a great inspirational athlete; and yes, prayers with him! But he exploited Islam to dodge service

He converted to Islam in 1964 and the draft started in 1969. He must have used his Muslim spidey sense to predict the future.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:02:59am

re: #78 Dr. Matt

He converted to Islam in 1964 and the draft started in 1969. He must have used his Muslim spidey sense to predict the future.

He had access to the same time machine that Obama later inherited.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:07:43am

re: #78 Dr. Matt

He converted to Islam in 1964 and the draft started in 1969. He must have used his Muslim spidey sense to predict the future.

Also, I don’t remember that “Muslim” draft deferment—and believe me, before my number came up 315, I read all of them.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:09:37am
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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:11:32am

NOI is fucked up in more ways than I knew:

finalcall.com

CHICAGO - Hundreds filled the International Ballroom at the Chicago Hilton February 22 to participate in the Nation of Islam’s Hubbard Dianetics Auditor’s Graduation for the third consecutive year.
On May 8, 2010 Minister Farrakhan first introduced Dianetics to the Nation of Islam’s laborers across country. Ever since that date, members of the Nation have done everything possible to show their appreciation, followed his guidance and now it appears as if they are poised to take it to an even higher level.

“The unfolding story of the Nation of Islam and Dianetics is bold,” said Shane Woodruff, vice-president of the Church of Scientology’s Celebrity Centre International. “It is determined and it is absolutely committed to restoring freedom and wiping hell from the face of this planet.”
[…]
Currently, the Nation of Islam has 1,055 Certified Auditors. Among those are 526 auditors who have received their Gold Seal permanent certification, demonstrating consistent proficiency and results. Those achieving that level received gold lapel pin.

Basically the worst of both worlds.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:11:33am
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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:14:11am

re: #82 Nyet

NOI is fucked up in more ways than I knew:

finalcall.com

Basically the worst of both worlds.

Still sleepy…read that as Diabetiics. But jesus…NOI is going Tom Cruise? That’s going to create some weirdos.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:17:12am

Merkel, Hollande, Iron Maiden.

facebook.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:21:10am

re: #82 Nyet

NOI is fucked up in more ways than I knew:

finalcall.com

Basically the worst of both worlds.

It’s like crossing the particle streams in Ghostbusters.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:22:58am

Francis is going to do some house cleaning, it seems.

washingtonpost.com

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:23:31am

re: #86 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What amounts to neo-Nazis crossed with a totalitarian cult. I shudder at the thought of what the child of this unholy union might be.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:24:18am

re: #86 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s like crossing the particle streams in Ghostbusters.

It’s like crossing streams with the guy at the next urinal. It just shouldn’t be done.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:25:06am

re: #87 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Tribunal, schmibunal. How about a zero-tolerance policy?

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:26:06am

Tim Minchin - Pope Song

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:26:58am

re: #88 Nyet

What amounts to neo-Nazis crossed with a totalitarian cult. I shudder at the thought of what the child of this unholy union might be.

I know you read Orac’s blog, so I’m sure you’re aware that NOI + Scientology are heavily into the antivax movement, at least in California. That’ll do for starters.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:27:34am

re: #90 Nyet

Tribunal, schmibunal. How about a zero-tolerance policy?

Maybe bishops have a union we don’t know about.

re: #88 Nyet

What amounts to neo-Nazis crossed with a totalitarian cult. I shudder at the thought of what the child of this unholy union might be.

Damien?

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:28:41am

re: #92 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I know you read Orac’s blog, so I’m sure you’re aware that NOI + Scientology are heavily into the antivax movement, at least in California. That’ll do for starters.

I’ve corresponded with David once upon a time on Holocaust-related matters and have the greatest respect for him, though I haven’t read his blog for quite a few years now…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:29:41am

re: #94 Nyet

I’ve corresponded with David once upon a time on Holocaust-related matters and have the greatest respect for him, though I haven’t read his blog in quite a few years now…

Sorry…maybe I have you mixed up with someone else.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:31:55am

re: #95 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, I do post links to his older stuff (like him ripping Vox Day a new one, and yes, on anti-vaxxers) once per year or so ;)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:32:51am

Speaking of Damien and things evil, I’ve started watching Lucifer. It’s OK. A police procedural mixed with the supernatural. I’ve seen three episodes so far that have been OK, nothing great but not shitty either.

Somehow I’d expect God to be a little more adamant about Lucifer returning to his post. Maybe he’s too busy playing interstellar golf with the other deities to really care.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:34:32am

re: #97 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The series focuses on Lucifer Morningstar

I hope the series is better than that name choice.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:39:37am

re: #98 Nyet

I hope the series is better than that name choice.

It’s the name from the Vertigo comics character, on which the show is based. Also, it’s what “lucifer” means in Latin.

Gaiman wanted to use “Trump” as a surname, but the licensing fees were too high. He got a better deal from the Devil.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:41:51am

re: #99 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s the name from the Vertigo comics character, on which the show is based. Also, it’s what “lucifer” means in Latin.

Gaiman wanted to use “Trump” as a surname, but the licensing fees were too high. He got a better deal from the Devil.

Well, “Lucifer” is another name for the Morning Star, but it means “light bearer”.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:42:28am

re: #99 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Also, it’s what “lucifer” means in Latin.

Which makes it worse ;)

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:43:24am

re: #100 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, “Lucifer” is another name for the Morning Star, but it means “light bearer”.

Depends on what “means” means. Both words mean “Venus”, so in one way “Lucifer” does mean “morning star”.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:43:34am

I’m waiting for this with bated breath:

WATCH: Alex Jones shares an ominous warning with America: Obama will ‘activate the Beyoncés’

RWW News: Manning & Jones: Obama Stoking Race War In Order To Stay In Power

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:43:35am

Come Home (Cardinal Pell) - Tim Minchin

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:51:34am

re: #102 Nyet

Depends on what “means” means. Both words mean “Venus”, so in one way “Lucifer” does mean “morning star”.

In any event, it seems the term was a mistranslation from the Hebrew, as it probably referred to Venus (the planet) and not to a fallen angel. But then the Christians got a hold of the idea that Lucifer was Satan, and Bible literalists are now convinced God/Jesus has an adversary who commands a veritable army of demons who take over people’s bodies and make them watch porn, and stuff.

The TV show depicts Lucifer as supernaturally strong physically, but his only “spooky” power is to stare into people’s eyes and make them tell him what their deepest desires are. For some reason, his police detective friend is immune. Also, he has a remarkable ability to move around quickly, unseen, but the show never shows how he does it.

He has allowed one bad guy see his true face (red, of course) and a couple of others his glowing yellow eyes. Tom Ellis does a good job in giving the human character the “Charles Manson” look, though.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:51:38am

From the House of Brogressive Sociopathy:

We are treated as spoilt children incapable of making rational decisions.

Because you fucking are.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:52:40am

re: #103 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m waiting for this with bated breath:

WATCH: Alex Jones shares an ominous warning with America: Obama will ‘activate the Beyoncés’

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I hope they can ship my Beyoncé to China. That would be so cool. //

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:54:17am

re: #105 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Satan in the Bible is not based on this Isaiah passage, so those who treat the Bible as history pretty much have to believe in the Devil and his minions. In fact Satan is much more prominent in the NT than in the OT (where he is more of a trickster who can talk to God as almost an equal).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 5:58:31am

re: #108 Nyet

Satan in the Bible is not based on this Isaiah passage, so those who treat the Bible as history pretty much have to believe in the Devil and his minions. In fact Satan is much more prominent in the NT than in the OT (where he is more of a trickster who can talk to God as almost an equal).

OT Satan is Loki, NT Satan is Ahriman.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 6:00:18am

Of course the more liberal Christians have to ignore or explain away all those inconvenient stories of Jesus casting out demons and such.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 6:01:09am

re: #108 Nyet

Satan in the Bible is not based on this Isaiah passage, so those who treat the Bible as history pretty much have to believe in the Devil and his minions. In fact Satan is much more prominent in the NT than in the OT (where he is more of a trickster who can talk to God as almost an equal).

As in the Book of Job. IIRC my religious history classes, the concept of the Devil/adversary came from neighboring cultures, and by the Christian era, the Devil acquired some aspects of the Greek Hades/Roman Pluto. Somewhere along the way, he grew wings, horns and a tail, and goats’ legs (referring to Pan or satyrs, I reckon), and his charming permanent lobster red skintone.

And that’s just the Christian depiction.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 6:21:09am

Just learned about a fraudulent witness at Spielberg’s USC Shoah Foundation. We were gathering testimonies about Majdanek and came upon one Alexander Contract who claimed to have been a son of a rabbi from Kiev who first became Khrushchev’s aide, then an NKVD agent (he uses the term “KGB”, even though it’s only a later term) and Stalin’s bodyguard (all without ever becoming a Party member, imagine that) and to have defected to the West in 1948 or so. For many hours he tells about his talks with Stalin, Beria etc., about his alleged stay in Majdanek and so on. He also wrote a book about his “experiences”. Unfortunately for him no such defecting bodyguard is known, and like many fraudulent witnesses he just had to have been “everywhere”, so he talks about the Katyn massacre, how he was present there, how it was done on Khrushchev’s orders (instead of on Stalin’s), how Stalin didn’t know about it and was mad at Khrushchev later (of course this is pure fantasy, since the Poles were murdered on Stalin’s direct orders). Blech.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 6:47:07am
Librarian dog
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jeffreyw  Jun 4, 2016 • 6:47:45am

Imgur
Good morning!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 6:54:47am

re: #112 Nyet

Sounds like someone trying to get attention.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:00:36am

re: #115 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Funnily enough, the usual suspects did not latch onto implausibility of his testimony but rather have used it to illustrate their usual “see, USSR was ruled by the Jews” thesis.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:02:05am

This is cool.

Flat lens promises possible revolution in optics
bbc.com

A flat lens made of paint whitener [TiO2]on a sliver of glass could revolutionise optics, according to its US inventors.

Just 2mm across and finer than a human hair, the tiny device can magnify nanoscale objects and gives a sharper focus than top-end microscope lenses.

It is the latest example of the power of metamaterials, whose novel properties emerge from their structure.

Shapes on the surface of this lens are smaller than the wavelength of light involved: a thousandth of a millimetre.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:04:29am

re: #117 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Soon you’ll be able to see each pore on your face with x100 magnification when the photo is made. Yay, progress!//

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:05:23am

re: #5 Belafon

My dad was in Vietnam, so you don’t bring up Ali around my mother.

She should blame the idiots who sent him to Vietnam.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:10:34am

re: #30 Stanley Sea

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It just isn’t a deal breaker

I wanted to object, but unfortunately the reality is that the majority of my fellow white voters will probably vote for Trump. It would be wonderful if he gets less than half of the white vote; maybe Gary Johnson can draw enough votes to make that happen.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:12:21am

I know I shouldn’t have, but I went to the breitbart site. There were a few respectful comments on Ali (maybe not regulars?), so to test the racism levels I also looked at the comments in the article on Nikki Haley’s criticism of Trump’d divisive rhetoric. Wowza.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:16:11am

re: #53 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So Jasser is suggesting Ali became a Muslim so he could dodge military service? Or something like that?

Fuck him

I have a lot more respect for Ali than rich fucks like Trump who used their privilege to avoid military service.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:19:25am

re: #117 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This is cool.

Flat lens promises possible revolution in optics
bbc.com

You could bring back refracting telescopes with that. They hit a wall at 40” because any larger lens would be so heavy in the middle it would be distorted by gravity.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:24:47am

re: #119 Big Beautiful Door

She should blame the idiots who sent him to Vietnam.

Let’s see: Johnson, Jane Fonda, Ali, and my dad’s mom. Don’t worry, she doesn’t like any of them.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:34:22am

Nyet?

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:35:19am

re: #125 darthstar

Nyet?

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Never mind…that’s Bulgaria not Russia…

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:35:21am

I was talking to my dad. Men were drafted prior to 1969/1970. The draft used since WW2 was to draft men in the order from oldest to youngest to fill empty slots. Dad said he knew that because the serial numbers of those who volunteered started with RA, and those who were drafted started with US. He volunteered at age 17 so that he could choose what he wanted to do, rather than being assigned to infantry. We went and verified the draft system after he said that. The lottery in 1969 was put in place by Nixon who wanted to further increase troop levels.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:36:08am

re: #125 darthstar

If there is a joke in that tweet, I must have missed it.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:36:37am

re: #126 darthstar

Never mind…that’s Bulgaria not Russia…

Well yes, I can still read it though. Not sure what’s it about.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:37:30am

re: #128 Nyet

If there is a joke in that tweet, I must have missed it.

I don’t think there’s a joke I think he is genuinely asking what it says.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:38:22am

Liberal Redneck - The Truth About Trump

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:38:32am

re: #126 darthstar

Never mind…that’s Bulgaria not Russia…

You can always spot Bulgarian because they use the Cyrillic hard sign ъ for the “Schwa” sound like in България. “Presidency of the Republic of Bulgaria”.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:38:58am

The lead of the Mediæval Bæbes also plays hammered dulcimer (as she did when she was the lead of Miranda Sex Garden).

Meantime, I am waiting on the call from Dulcimer Players’ Local #239 for me to head up an Irish folk band… .

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:42:10am

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think there’s a joke I think he is genuinely asking what it says.

This. Then I realized I fucked up.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:43:04am

A big reason for my mom’s dislike of people like Ali is that my dad developed epilepsy while he was there. We have recently, due to people returning from Iraq/Afghanistan, that the epilepsy is due to PTSD, but that is not something they even acknowledged back then. He had about one seizure a month for about the first 14 years of my life. No it’s not Ali’s fault that he got it, but he got out of going.

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Snarknado!  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:45:00am

re: #134 darthstar

This. Then I realized I fucked up.

Anyway, it means “President of the Republic of Bulgaria.”

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:46:30am

re: #136 Snarknado!

Anyway, it means “President of the Republic of Bulgaria.”

Saw that too. Not sure why I follow Samuel L Jackson…probably because he’s often just a goofy-ass dude.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:46:44am

Rage Furby be raging.

“Free Speech”? YOU LIARS! An OPEN LETTER TO $TWTR’s Co-CEOs @Jack & @DeRay

Why Is Mexico Fomenting Riots in America With The Help of The Media? #SanJose
He’s using Mike Cernovich as a source on that one.

PROOF: @MegynKelly Caught Lying About Judge Gonzalo Curiel’s La Raza Membership to Bash @RealDonaldTrump

In that one, he refers to his spies at Fox News.

Our spies in Fox News tell us that Kelly really has it in for Donald Trump and that she has been privately and publicly scheming to “take him down.”

She didn’t get that when we exposed the Michelle Fields hoax but she’s still trying again. She preferred calling this website “discredited.”

The reports I get out of Fox News suggest someone who is interested and desperate to leave Fox News and maybe jump ship to Good Morning America.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:46:51am

re: #135 Belafon

A big reason for my mom’s dislike of people like Ali is that my dad developed epilepsy while he was there. We have recently, due to people returning from Iraq/Afghanistan, that the epilepsy is due to PTSD, but that is not something they even acknowledged back then. He had about one seizure a month for about the first 14 years of my life. No it’s not Ali’s fault that he got it, but he got out of going.

Neither the VA nor the Navy has figured out where my own epilepsy came from. (It does not appear in my family.)

My mother is not a big fan of Ali (as my father was killed in Vietnam, and she thinks boxing is barbaric).

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Snarknado!  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:48:01am

re: #135 Belafon

A big reason for my mom’s dislike of people like Ali is that my dad developed epilepsy while he was there. We have recently, due to people returning from Iraq/Afghanistan, that the epilepsy is due to PTSD, but that is not something they even acknowledged back then. He had about one seizure a month for about the first 14 years of my life. No it’s not Ali’s fault that he got it, but he got out of going.

People “got out of going” all sorts of ways, e.g. going to Canada, leaning on influential relatives, or something like Ted Nugent’s solution. Instead of evading, Ali openly refused the draft and suffered the consequences.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:49:59am

Dis gon’ be good!

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:51:12am

re: #139 Anymouse

Neither the VA nor the Navy has figured out where my own epilepsy came from. (It does not appear in my family.)

My mother is not a big fan of Ali (as my father was killed in Vietnam, and she thinks boxing is barbaric).

We heard about a solder returning from Iraq or Afghanistan who had developed epilepsy with no prior family history, and they (I don’t remember who they are) determined it was PTSD. We don’t have a history of it in my family either, and my dad developed it while he was in Vietnam. When they started becoming less regular, we would have to start watching him after some kind of stressful event, which was usually when his mother would visit.

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Alyosha  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:52:29am

re: #116 Nyet

Funnily enough, the usual suspects did not latch onto implausibility of his testimony but rather have used it to illustrate their usual “see, USSR was ruled by the Jews” thesis.

Before the Manchurian Candidate, there was the Joseph Syndrome.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:57:41am

re: #138 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Discredited? GotNews? Wouldn’t that imply they were once taken seriously?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:59:17am

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

Dis gon’ be good!

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I want Attorney General Funbags, too!

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 7:59:43am

re: #142 Belafon

We heard about a solder returning from Iraq or Afghanistan who had developed epilepsy with no prior family history, and they (I don’t remember who they are) determined it was PTSD. We don’t have a history of it in my family either, and my dad developed it while he was in Vietnam. When they started becoming less regular, we would have to start watching him after some kind of stressful event, which was usually when his mother would visit.

I was not in combat. I was in the Naval task forces assigned to the Bosnia and Beirut operations, and was stationed in Spain working exceptionally long hours with no days off for six months during the Persian Gulf War, but those don’t really qualify as combat.

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ObserverArt  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:00:06am

re: #78 Dr. Matt

He converted to Islam in 1964 and the draft started in 1969. He must have used his Muslim spidey sense to predict the future.

Am I missing something?

My one brother was drafted into the Army in 1965.

So, what is this 1969 thing about???

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:00:44am

re: #147 ObserverArt

Am I missing something?

My one brother was drafted into the Army in 1965.

So, what is this 1969 thing about???

The lottery system.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:02:23am

re: #146 Anymouse

I was not in combat. I was in the Naval task forces assigned to the Bosnia and Beirut operations, and was stationed in Spain working exceptionally long hours with no days off for six months during the Persian Gulf War, but those don’t really qualify as combat.

When they do large deployments for CERT, some of the people they include are counselors who are there to help with possible PTSD.

Edit: My point being that more than just combat can contribute to PTSD.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:03:36am

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

Dis gon’ be good!

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Aaawwwwwww Yissssss!

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:03:37am

Nice tweetset from Josh Marshall just now

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:03:47am

re: #146 Anymouse

I was not in combat. I was in the Naval task forces assigned to the Bosnia and Beirut operations, and was stationed in Spain working exceptionally long hours with no days off for six months during the Persian Gulf War, but those don’t really qualify as combat.

We do, however, appreciate your service.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:04:17am

re: #147 ObserverArt

Am I missing something?

My one brother was drafted into the Army in 1965.

So, what is this 1969 thing about???

I describe what my dad told me in #127 about the draft existing before 1969. But there’s a focus on the draft lottery that occurred in 1969.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:07:42am

re: #152 Big Beautiful Door

We do, however, appreciate your service.

Thanks for the opportunity.

Now my service consists of elected liberal on a village board in a town full of conservatives. (One might argue that is combat.)

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:08:38am

re: #154 Anymouse

Thanks for the opportunity.

Now my service consists of elected liberal on a village board in a town full of conservatives. (One might argue that is combat.)

No need to argue that here, Sir!

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ObserverArt  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:18:05am

re: #148 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The lottery system.

I figured that might be the case. Dr. Matt’s comment made it seem like the entire draft started in 1969. Just wanted to make sure that was clear.

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jaunte  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:19:33am
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Romantic Heretic  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:20:31am

re: #1 Lidane

I can never see Muhammad Ali without hearing George Carlin.

Of course he’s got a strange calling: beating people up.

The government didn’t see it that way though. The government wanted him to kill people.

So he said, “Nah. That’s where I draw the line. I’ll beat ‘em up but I don’t wanna kill ‘em.

So the government, in a spiteful move, said “If you’re not gonna kill ‘em we won’t let you beat them up.”

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:21:27am

re: #157 jaunte

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:23:46am

re: #157 jaunte

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Donald Trump does not think about what he said six months before, he just whips out tweets as they come into his head.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:24:24am

re: #32 TK-421

Lightning Storm & VERY Rare “Red Sprites” Surrounded By Starry Skies

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Video

No wonder people used to think gods were battling in the skies.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:27:30am

re: #55 Single-handed sailor

Been watching the SyFy series The Magicians.

Moths kinda freak me out now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:33:32am

re: #110 Nyet

Of course the more liberal Christians have to ignore or explain away all those inconvenient stories of Jesus casting out demons and such.

They’re comfortable with the ambiguity of the Bible simultaneously being the divinely inspired Word of God; written years later by people who didn’t witness the events described and pushing a particular viewpoint; and edited centuries later by other people pushing other viewpoints - a mix of creation myth, allegory, history, propaganda, and Truth.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:35:47am

It’s late, and GotNwes’ night shift is not willing to work overtime. The dayshift will handle the other Rage Furby nonsense tomorrow.

‘Freeze peach’? YOU LIARS! An OPEN LETTER TO $TWTR’s Co-CEOs @Jack & @DeRay

[In which Award Winning JournalistTM and quasi-professional whiner Chuck C. Johnson whines some more about being banned from Twitter for an entire year now.]

Dear Jack and DeRay,

You guys suck!

I write this letter to you two because I sure can’t tweet you anymore, not since I said I wanted to take you out, DeRay, a whole fucking year ago! You guys said at ReCode that you supported free speech. Hahaha! As if. What ever happened to my free speech on Twitter. Gone! Just because I made a threat to take out someone I didn’t like, and was suspended several times before for other infractions of the TOC doesn’t mean I should be banned forever.

How are people going to find out about fake rapes, the non-criminal non-records of black guys shot dead by cops, and the addresses and phone numbers of carriers of dangerous diseases, without me being on Twitter? How are they going to know I hate Muslims, and want to burn Korans, and think Michelle Fields and Megyn Kelly are liars, and blacks and Mexicans are stupider that whites and Asians?

Naturally, he links to both his blog and the legally suspect WeSearchr site.

Somehow, I doubt Jack Dorsey or DeRay McKesson give a flying Frisbee about Chuck’s obsession about Tiwtter.

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KerFuFFler  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:36:46am

A shout-out to Dr Lizardo:

Hope you are safe and dry given all the flooding in Prague——-that is where you live, right?

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:42:18am

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Donald Trump does not think about what he said six months before, he just whips out tweets as they come into his head.

I’m afraid one of these days he’s going to whip out something other than tweets.

Cuz, ya know, Manhood!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:44:08am

re: #166 Romantic Heretic

I’m afraid one of these days he’s going to whip out something other than tweets.

Cuz, ya know, Manhood!

LBJ allegedly whipped out his, y’know, johnson, for the press corps. So, there’s precedent.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:44:59am

re: #166 Romantic Heretic

I’m afraid one of these days he’s going to whip out something other than tweets.

Cuz, ya know, Manhood!

The thing is that with d**k size contests, it always ends the same way.
Someone totally unexpected comes up and whips out the largest one, making the others cry.

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Great White Snark  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:47:05am
Create your own Donald Trump slogan with the LGF Trump Bumper Sticker Generator! http://lgf.bz/1sAlIOa

This is from Vistaprint, I imagine better deals could be found for real stickers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:51:10am

WRT the draft, there was a peacetime draft starting in 1940 - my Dad got drafted then, and was able to get Conscientious Objector status and work in CPS. He’d nearly finished his service when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor on 7 Dec 1941. After that, he was in until November 1945.

In 1967, my older brother graduated from college, and became available. This was during Viet Nam, of course, and since we were Mennonites by then, he was also able to get CO status, and followed in the family tradition of working in a State Mental Hospital.

My other brother would have been eligible to be drafted in 1968, but he has asthma and bad eyesight, so he was not declared fit for service.

If you recall, in Animal House, which is set in 1962, when Dean Wormer informs the Deltas they’ve all been expelled, he adds, “And l’m sure you’ll be happy to know that l have notified your local draft boards and told them that you are now all eligible for military service.”

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:51:40am

re: #166 Romantic Heretic

I’m afraid one of these days he’s going to whip out something other than tweets.

Cuz, ya know, Manhood!

Only if there’s a notable 3rd party candidate.

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ObserverArt  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:52:07am

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Donald Trump does not think about what he said six months before, he just whips out tweets as they come into his head.

And yet…there he is. And now getting his orange butt kissed by the GOP. Well some of them anyway.

Want to send a signal Dark? You know what to do.

Or maybe you can watch the party you so love crash and burn. It’s getting there when people in the party want to run an independent to go against the party.

Seems to me that is one tiny step from admitting the party is dead.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:52:36am

I wonder how many other MSM outlets are going to engage on this.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:54:57am

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

I wonder how many other MSM outlets are going to engage on this.

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And for some reason, Mike Tyson supports him. Tyson is a Muslim too. Uh Kareem Abdul Jabbar too. People flip out about “creeping Shariah” but the fact of the matter is Muslims have always been in this country. Anyhow, Ali retired before my time but he was such a charismatic presence. He knew that fighting was physical but it was also psychological.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 8:56:36am

re: #172 ObserverArt

There is no signal i can send that would mean much of anything.

And the glee you take in Republicans’ troubles is noted. I hope the discomfiture I feel right now is delivered unto you in equal measure.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:00:30am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

There is no signal i can send that would mean much of anything.

And the glee you take in Republicans’ troubles is noted. I hope the discomfiture I feel right now is delivered unto you in equal measure.

To be honest DF, I think the glee many of us are seeing with the Republicans is the years of pandering to bigotry catching up to them. I know you don’t want to hear this but Trump didn’t come out of nowhere to become the GOP nominee, he had help from senior GOP officials including many men and women you respect. It’s sad to see a party be-clown itself like the Republican Party has but frankly I don’t have any sympathy for your party leaders who are horrified by what Trump says and does. Paul Ryan claims he found the attacks on Judge Curiel out of left field? Really, the guy who called Mexican-Americans rapists attacking a judge’s ethnicity was an out of left field comment by Trump for the Speaker?

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:00:45am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:01:45am

My faith in basic human decency has been dented. I peeked at Chuck’s WeSearchr site, and some of the projects have gained more than $10,000 in donations so far.

Next up: crowdfunding the inevitable legal defense team
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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:02:01am

re: #177 FormerDirtDart

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Along with the vaxxers and religious right, the sovereign citizens have to be up there for most insidious movements.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:04:33am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Guess who the top two contributors for the Nick Denton one are?

A fool and his money …
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:06:26am

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

Addendum: As luck would have it, I was born in November of 1957, so I’m the only Smith man in at least 4 generations who never had to register for the draft.

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ObserverArt  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:06:47am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

There is no signal i can send that would mean much of anything.

And the glee you take in Republicans’ troubles is noted. I hope the discomfiture I feel right now is delivered unto you in equal measure.

That does it. That comment was totally uncalled for.

Forget you Dark.

Don’t do anything then.

My entire comment was not posted in glee. It is the truth. I’ve commented a lot of time about having a healthy two party system.

And I already know the Democrats have their own issues. I’ve been voting since 1972! Yes, for Nixon. So, that alone should put paid to your take.

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:06:48am

re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

On that pic Pax looks like a serial killer.

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ObserverArt  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:08:49am

Later!

I’ve had it for a bit.

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TedStriker  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:11:09am

re: #182 ObserverArt

That does it. That comment was totally uncalled for.

Forget you Dark.

Don’t do anything then.

My entire comment was not posted in glee. It is the truth. I’ve commented a lot of time about having a healthy two party system.

And I already know the Democrats have their own issues. I’ve been voting since 1972! Yes, for Nixon. So, that alone should put paid to your take.

Just scroll him over and save your sanity, because Dark will never, ever change.

For him, as long as he slavishly follows his old man’s political lead, it’s Party Uber Alles.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:11:15am

re: #183 Nyet

On that pic Pax looks like a serial killer.

the larger cartoon that Alouette posted is even scarier

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:14:41am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

There is no signal i can send that would mean much of anything.

And the glee you take in Republicans’ troubles is noted. I hope the discomfiture I feel right now is delivered unto you in equal measure.

The discomfiture you feel right now is because you tied yourself to a PARTY, rather than a philosophy.

I’ll admit proudly that I’m a Democrat, because the Democratic Party best represents my values and my philosophy. But I’ve voted for Republicans and independents when I felt they were better candidates, and if the Democratic Party changed radically so that it no longer represented my values I would drop them like yesterday’s garbage.

It shouldn’t be about teams, Dark. It should be about what you want for yourself and your country. The GOP, as far as I can tell, no longer represents your values. It happens sometimes. They have not been loyal to you, so why should you shed a tear for them?

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nines09  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:15:11am

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KerFuFFler  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:18:41am
Cafe in Paris

That’s the spirit!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:19:14am

re: #189 KerFuFFler

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That’s the spirit!

There’s always time for wine.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:19:47am

re: #189 KerFuFFler

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That’s the spirit!

C’est la vie!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:20:07am

re: #187 Blind Frog Belly White

The discomfiture you feel right now is because you tied yourself to a PARTY, rather than a philosophy.

I’ll admit proudly that I’m a Democrat, because the Democratic Party best represents my values and my philosophy. But I’ve voted for Republicans and independents when I felt they were better candidates, and if the Democratic Party changed radically so that it no longer represented my values I would drop them like yesterday’s garbage.

It shouldn’t be about teams, Dark. It should be about what you want for yourself and your country. The GOP, as far as I can tell, no longer represents your values. It happens sometimes. They have not been loyal to you, so why should you shed a tear for them?

This is very well said.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:21:26am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

There is no signal i can send that would mean much of anything.

And the glee you take in Republicans’ troubles is noted. I hope the discomfiture I feel right now is delivered unto you in equal measure.

It’s not glee. It’s utter disbelief at watching someone basically running full steam into the a bullet train traveling at full speed in the opposite direction.
What the GOP is doing right now will not end well. It’s not because I’m not republican. It’s because I come from a country which frickin’ paid through frickin’ nose (and we still got off easy) for siding with the same type of ideology the GOP is letting fester at its core.
Many of my generation were taught to recognize that shit from miles away…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:21:41am

Midnight cometh, and I goeth to bed. Later!

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blueraven  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:23:08am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

I was at Ft. Knox when Ali was fighting his most important fight:

“An officer warned him he was committing a felony punishable by five years in prison and a fine of $10,000. Once more, Ali refused to budge when his name was called. As a result, on that same day, the New York State Athletic Commission suspended his boxing license and the World Boxing Association stripped him of his title.”

If he had entered the Army, he would have been offered a sweet Morale/Welfare gig touring bases. Instead, he paid a price. He showed no deficit of courage.

This.

And it was at the height of his boxing career, the peak of his physical ability. He paid an enormous price to stand on his convictions.
When he was finally allowed to box again, he was a very different fighter. Still great, but the change required him to take more punches.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:23:59am

re: #187 Blind Frog Belly White

The discomfiture you feel right now is because you tied yourself to a PARTY, rather than a philosophy.

I’ll admit proudly that I’m a Democrat, because the Democratic Party best represents my values and my philosophy. But I’ve voted for Republicans and independents when I felt they were better candidates, and if the Democratic Party changed radically so that it no longer represented my values I would drop them like yesterday’s garbage.

It shouldn’t be about teams, Dark. It should be about what you want for yourself and your country. The GOP, as far as I can tell, no longer represents your values. It happens sometimes. They have not been loyal to you, so why should you shed a tear for them?

I too have voted for Republicans (and one Libertarian) when I thought they were the better candidates, and I have been voting since 1980.

I am not tied to the Democratic Party like an anchor; if the Democrats went off the rails, then I would be out in a flash.

But at the moment to me, with Mr. Trump as the presumptuous nominee, and all the GOP luminaries lining up behind him, it is beginning to look like the GOP is becoming a hate group.

Going forward, unless they change, I will no longer vote for any Republican candidate. To me at this point, a vote for any Republican at any level is a vote to support a hate group.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:25:39am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:26:05am

It really pisses me off that CCJ has access to a seemingly endless supply of money.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:27:05am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

It really pisses me off that CCJ has access to a seemingly endless supply of money.

Sometimes it makes me very curious, I wonder where all that money comes from?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:27:31am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

It really pisses me off that CCJ has access to a seemingly endless supply of money.

He’s tapped into wingnut welfare.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:27:38am

I’ve voted for Republicans too (I know hard to believe) but anyhow what I see with the Republican Party is that for years their leaders have enabled bigotry in some way. I’m sorry DF but I’ll never forget or forgive the Bush administration and re-election team for using homophobia to help his re-election chances in 2004. I’m glad to see that just 12 years after that, I live in a country where same sex marriage is legal and LGBT people are accepted and not treated as horrible people or even downright demons like the religious right which you seem to acknowledge is a poison in our political system would like. And I’m sorry but I just want to smack Ryan when he claims that the Trump attacks on Curiel’s ethnic background were out of left field. He knows that Trump attacks Mexicans and Mexican-Americans. I don’t take glee in the Republican Party’s possible demise. I honestly think it’s sad that the Republican Party has gone from offering such giants as Lincoln, TR, and Eisenhower to their present state which came down to a pissing match between Trump and Ted Cruz. The GOP IMO screwed the pooch decades ago when they decided they wanted to be the party that pandered to people’s racial resentments rather than be the party that was founded explicty to oppose the expansion of slavery and the spirit of racial egalitarianism that came with that. And that journey didn’t start when Turmp announced he was running as a Republican this year. I want the Republican honchos who have enabled the kind of electorate that nominates Trump in the first place that they should feel responsibility for him.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:28:42am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

It really pisses me off that CCJ has access to a seemingly endless supply of money.

There’s a lot of people like that unfortunately.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:29:19am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

WeSearchr: The new home for prosecution futures.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:29:26am

re: #200 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He’s tapped into wingnut welfare.

Who says the pledges his on his bs site are real?

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:30:31am

re: #200 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He’s tapped into wingnut welfare.

I dunno. Every once in a while, I hear these nasty rumors of foreign interests helping them.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:31:00am

re: #157 jaunte

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Joy Reid tweeted this image early this morning, right before announcing she’d be honoring Ali during her show - then had the good thought to go back and delete the tweet.

We know Trump’s a bigot, a liar, and a piece of shit of a human being. Ali’s death shouldn’t be about Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:32:25am

re: #200 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He’s tapped into wingnut welfare.

Either that or his wife is bankrolling him.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:32:46am

re: #187 Blind Frog Belly White

The discomfiture you feel right now is because you tied yourself to a PARTY, rather than a philosophy.

I’ll admit proudly that I’m a Democrat, because the Democratic Party best represents my values and my philosophy. But I’ve voted for Republicans and independents when I felt they were better candidates, and if the Democratic Party changed radically so that it no longer represented my values I would drop them like yesterday’s garbage.

It shouldn’t be about teams, Dark. It should be about what you want for yourself and your country. The GOP, as far as I can tell, no longer represents your values. It happens sometimes. They have not been loyal to you, so why should you shed a tear for them?

For me, its about the team because without the team I’m nobody. I often find social interaction with those I do not know awkward and I have relatively few friends, so I have to stay loyal to what I’ve got. If the ship sinks, I’m going down with it. Because I’m not likely to find another crew willing to take me on.

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:33:17am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

I was at Ft. Knox when Ali was fighting his most important fight:

“An officer warned him he was committing a felony punishable by five years in prison and a fine of $10,000. Once more, Ali refused to budge when his name was called. As a result, on that same day, the New York State Athletic Commission suspended his boxing license and the World Boxing Association stripped him of his title.”

If he had entered the Army, he would have been offered a sweet Morale/Welfare gig touring bases. Instead, he paid a price. He showed no deficit of courage.

This is one of the biggies in the extended series of ‘How I Remember Ali’. Thanks for witnessing.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:37:32am

I don’t think the whole smart-watch thing is all that impressive, given the fact that you still need to have your phone with you. When they embed a phone in a watch, and make it water proof to 30 feet, then maybe…but for now, people will either have to shell out the $300 for an iWatch from Apple or get an android compatible one for about twenty bucks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:38:14am

I’m sure most of you have seen it but for anyone who hasn’t you owe it to yourself to check out “When we were Kings”

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:38:55am

re: #210 darthstar

I don’t think the whole smart-watch thing is all that impressive, given the fact that you still need to have your phone with you. When they embed a phone in a watch, and make it water proof to 30 feet, then maybe…but for now, people will either have to shell out the $300 for an iWatch from Apple or get an android compatible one for about twenty bucks.

Or sign up for 12 or 24 months with a operator with the appropriate deal. That’s how I gots my Samsung A3 :)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:40:31am

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m sure most of you have seen it but for anyone who hasn’t you owe it to yourself to check out “When we were Kings”

I have. That was a terrific documentary.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:41:47am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

For me, its about the team because without the team I’m nobody. I often find social interaction with those I do not know awkward and I have relatively few friends, so I have to stay loyal to what I’ve got. If the ship sinks, I’m going down with it. Because I’m not likely to find another crew willing to take me on.

So what do you do when the team openly embraces evil? You keep supporting it? You stay loyal no matter what? We fought a four-year war against fascism, I’ll be darned if I will vote for a party in our country that openly supports a fascist for President.

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retired cynic  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:41:49am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

For me, its about the team because without the team I’m nobody. I often find social interaction with those I do not know awkward and I have relatively few friends, so I have to stay loyal to what I’ve got. If the ship sinks, I’m going down with it. Because I’m not likely to find another crew willing to take me on.

But that’s not true. You are someone, with the freedom to know your own mind and heart.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:41:53am
“…A new indictment filed Friday in Brooklyn says Martin Shkreli and his former attorney Evan Greebel schemed to defrauded potential investors of his former drug company Retrophin Inc., based in San Diego. They say the two allocated company stock to seven employees to conceal Shkreli’s ownership of it…”

And

“…Shkreli’s attorney said the new criminal allegations won’t change the “flawed theory” of the case. Greebel’s lawyer had no comment…”

Can’t help but think the prosecutors are hoping to flip Greebel

Man, that image of Shkreli really produces an urge within me to bury my fist elbow deep in his face…
I’m going to pet my dogs and mellow out

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Black d20  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:42:28am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

Real talk: that is the most awful and heartbreaking thing I’ve ever heard anyone say about themselves, Dark.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:44:31am

re: #212 Teukka

Or sign up for 12 or 24 months with a operator with the appropriate deal. That’s how I gots my Samsung A3 :)

A3? I had an S3 then moved to my current S4 mini (which I like)…did they go back to the start of the alphabet?

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Bear  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:44:53am

My “smart” watch cost about $10.00. It tells me the time!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:45:31am

The problem is, the photo of the family is not from a pro-Trump event or gathering. The picture is actually from a news story about a black family reunion in 2015.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:45:45am

re: #99 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s the name from the Vertigo comics character, on which the show is based. Also, it’s what “lucifer” means in Latin.

Gaiman wanted to use “Trump” as a surname, but the licensing fees were too high. He got a better deal from the Devil.

And the devil stands behind his deals

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:46:03am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

For me, its about the team because without the team I’m nobody. I often find social interaction with those I do not know awkward and I have relatively few friends, so I have to stay loyal to what I’ve got. If the ship sinks, I’m going down with it. Because I’m not likely to find another crew willing to take me on.

What about Team America?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:46:13am

Here should be the first prize award for the best Donald Trump bumper sticker:

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:46:27am

re: #218 darthstar

A3? I had an S3 then moved to my current S4 mini (which I like)…did they go back to the start of the alphabet?

Okay…later release - KitKat vs JellyBean.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:48:04am

re: #217 Black d20

Real talk: that is the most awful and heartbreaking thing I’ve ever heard anyone say about themselves, Dark.

I don’t have a whole lot of friends (at least locally). Atheist, liberal, socialistic-leaning, in an overwhelmingly conservative and religious town.

I still won’t vote for evil. (I am still amazed I was appointed and reëlected to my village board - the chair, a Republican, supported me for reëlection because as he said “I was the least controversial candidate.” That got me over the line by four votes—elected to a job that doesn’t pay, requires a lot of my time, gets me yelled at a lot by my neighbours because the village board did this or didn’t do that… .)

Monday is the realignment of the board after a resignation (a person moved out of the village). I am now the second-most senior person on the board - traditionally, I should be put in as vice-mayor. We’ll see if that actually happens.

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Mattand  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:48:46am

re: #210 darthstar

I don’t think the whole smart-watch thing is all that impressive, given the fact that you still need to have your phone with you. When they embed a phone in a watch, and make it water proof to 30 feet, then maybe…but for now, people will either have to shell out the $300 for an iWatch from Apple or get an android compatible one for about twenty bucks.

Funny you should post this. I can get a really good price on an Apple Watch right now, and I’m on the verge of pulling the trigger. My big thing is that I lost my Fitbit, which will cost $100 to replace. Since I wear a watch and use an iPhone, it seems a good fit for me.

The only reason I’m holding off is because Apple’s developer confab is next week, and it’s possible to they might drop some Watch 2.0 news there.

I figure even if they announce the latest and greatest, I could come really close to making back my purchase price on the old watch on eBay.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:49:04am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Derp.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:49:08am

re: #218 darthstar

The main flagship series goes in order S4, S5, S6 etc. some of the other models bounce around the alphabet. There are As, Gs, Ns and even Js.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:49:18am

re: #219 Bear

My “smart” watch cost about $10.00. It tells me the time!!

My watch is stupid. Doesn’t even speak English (Damn Swiss)…but I’ve had it for over 16 years and it has goes as well with a tux as it does with jeans…change the battery every 2 or 3 years, get it pressure tested, and I’m good to go.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:49:31am

re: #222 sagehen

What about Team America?

They were just the puppets of two guys from Colorado.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:51:45am

re: #228 Eclectic Cyborg

The main flagship series goes in order S4, S5, S6 etc. some of the other models bounce around the alphabet. There are As, Gs, Ns and even Js.

Ooh…Js…6 ounces? Screw that brick. I’ll stay with my 3oz S4 mini.

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Black d20  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:53:32am

re: #225 Anymouse

Yeah, it’s just… I don’t care about your leanings. Well, I do if they’re actually outright evil or intentionally/unintentionally malicious, but for the most part I can live and let live. But you have to take a stand for what’s right by humanity and your country sometimes, and Dark letting his desire to belong to something effectively make him Fellow Traveler-ish (since he’s not really OF the party, as it’s mostly supporting Trump, and to his credit he refuses to).

I wish he could just stand on his own beliefs without yoking himself to a party that caters to bigotry, fear, and pessimism. He’s not getting all that much back in return for sticking to the GOP, unless his love for firearms really is that one thing that keeps him warm at night.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:55:15am

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

They were just the puppets of two guys from Colorado.

There are lots of teams and clubs out there…Don’t despair.

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:55:45am

re: #221 Eventual Carrion

And the devil stands behind his deals

Good to see you!

How are you feeling?

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:55:57am

re: #232 Black d20

Yeah, it’s just… I don’t care about your leanings. Well, I do if they’re actually outright evil or intentionally/unintentionally malicious, but for the most part I can live and let live. But you have to take a stand for what’s right by humanity and your country sometimes, and Dark letting his desire to belong to something effectively make him Fellow Traveler-ish (since he’s not really OF the party, as it’s mostly supporting Trump, and to his credit he refuses to).

I wish he could just stand on his own beliefs without yoking himself to a party that caters to bigotry, fear, and pessimism. He’s not getting all that much back in return for sticking to the GOP, unless his love for firearms really is that one thing that keeps him warm at night.

I own a firearm as well (a shotgun). Pro-tip to some conservatives: Liberals don’t want your guns, we have our own.

My wife the former Libertarian Party campaign treasurer noted that what we should really be doing is a Marxist redistribution of guns (from those who have many to those who have none). That would explode a lot more heads than a call for stricter background checks.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:57:03am

re: #233 darthstar

There are lots of teams and clubs out there…Don’t despair.

That I’m not doing, things are going too well at work right now for me to do that.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:57:08am

re: #218 darthstar

A3? I had an S3 then moved to my current S4 mini (which I like)…did they go back to the start of the alphabet?

I dunno if it’s specific for the European market, but it’s a good phone :3

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bratwurst  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:58:07am

I am sure Ali and his family would like to see him remembered as a subject for clickbait:

Death is a difficult thing for everyone, and there are likely as many ways to deal with it as there are people in the world. Having said that, the way our modern world and media are handling celebrity passings at this point is leaving me very cold indeed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:58:08am

re: #221 Eventual Carrion

And the devil stands behind his deals

Yay! You’re back!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:58:24am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

For me, its about the team because without the team I’m nobody. I often find social interaction with those I do not know awkward and I have relatively few friends, so I have to stay loyal to what I’ve got. If the ship sinks, I’m going down with it. Because I’m not likely to find another crew willing to take me on.

Honestly if I were you, I’d ask myself what it is about the GOP that inspires such loyalty. And honestly, I think you’re way too hard on yourself. I understand what it’s like being socially awkward and have few close friends being on the autistic spectrum myself especially when the friends you make on the spectrum are often because of things like common interests. However, even with that I do have a couple of friends, a couple of really good ones at that I disagree with politics a lot on. DF, you’d still be you without the Republican Party. Don’t let them define your identity as an individual.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 9:59:26am

Okay….Harry Reid has about six months left in office and he’ll be damned if he’ll pull any more punches.

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:00:46am

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

That I’m not doing, things are going too well at work right now for me to do that.

Glad to hear the job is going well. Something more rewarding than the wingnut conference seat thing I hope.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:01:02am

re: #238 bratwurst

I am sure Ali and his family would like to see him remembered as a subject for clickbait:

Death is a difficult thing for everyone, and there are likely as many ways to deal with it as there are people in the world. Having said that, the way our modern world and media are handling celebrity passings at this point is leaving me very cold indeed.

Fortunately, I am so unimportant no one would bother with me as clickbait (or gator bait).

So unimportant, in fact, that no one I know except my wife remembered my birthday a couple days ago (even my mother). Didn’t bother me.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:01:34am

re: #241 darthstar

Okay….Harry Reid has about six months left in office and he’ll be damned if he’ll pull any more punches.

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Well he is a former boxer.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:02:21am

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

That I’m not doing, things are going too well at work right now for me to do that.

What sort of work do you do? Genuinely interested.

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Mattand  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:03:40am

re: #232 Black d20

I wish he could just stand on his own beliefs without yoking himself to a party that caters to bigotry, fear, and pessimism. He’s not getting all that much back in return for sticking to the GOP, unless his love for firearms really is that one thing that keeps him warm at night.

Basically this.

This is the thing I find the most distressing. The GOP, in roughly 64 years, has gone from Ike to Trump. And even Ike doesn’t get a complete pass, because he predicted McCain/Palin by 50-odd years by making Nixon his running mate.

But I digress. There’s been a stunning de-evolution of what Republicans view as fit to run the free world. Their current chosen candidate is openly and unapologetically being as bigoted as possible to try become President. This is not opinion or speculation. This is being played out on live video every freaking day.

To say that you’re going to down with the team, despite the fact that the team is openly condoning racist behavior in its leader, is distressing beyond belief.

You don’t have to join the Democratic Party if you don’t want to. But at what point do you look at the GOP as it stands now and go “Enough is enough”? At what point does the naked bigotry become too much?

Because I gotta be honest, after Trump’s latest tantrums over the last 24 hours, and Paul Ryan’s “Yeah, but whaddya gonna do?” shrugfest, I have to really wonder about a person’s moral compass if you don’t reject this stuff and still support the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:06:29am

re: #243 Anymouse

Fortunately, I am so unimportant no one would bother with me as clickbait (or gator bait).

So unimportant, in fact, that no one I know except my wife remembered my birthday a couple days ago (even my mother). Didn’t bother me.

Heh. I and MrBWS both forgot our wedding anniversary was last week.
Remembered it last night and we just shook our heads and laughed.
Have done exactly the same thing almost every year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:08:47am

Cincinnati TV station tweet gets snarky…

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:09:21am

One thing Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, and I have in common. We’ve used prisms for a short time to correct double-vision from a head-bonk.

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thedopefishlives  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:18:22am

Afternoon Lizardim.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:18:49am

re: #249 wrenchwench

One thing Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, and I have in common. We’ve used prisms for a short time to correct double-vision from a head-bonk.

Are you angling to be the head of Mrs. Clinton’s new Department of Ophthalmology?

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blueraven  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:23:10am

True. A beautiful piece.

…Ali became arguably the most famous person on the planet, known as a supreme athlete, an uncanny blend of power, improvisation, and velocity; a master of rhyming prediction and derision; an exemplar and symbol of racial pride; a fighter, a draft resister, an acolyte, a preacher, a separatist, an integrationist, a comedian, an actor, a dancer, a butterfly, a bee, a figure of immense courage.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:24:38am

re: #252 blueraven

True. A beautiful piece.

Interesting, Mr. Goldberg’s name has that “echo” that alt-right Neo-Nazis created to identify Jews or organisations that support them. Google pulled that Chrome app yesterday that puts the thee parentheses around those names.

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:25:16am

re: #251 Anymouse

Are you angling to be the head of Mrs. Clinton’s new Department of Ophthalmology?

I could be her bike mechanic, but I’ve never seen her on one. That’s not fulfilling Obama’s legacy very well.

Funny you should use the word ‘angling’. I’m wearing my Shimano hat and t-shirt. Besides fine bicycle equipment, the other stuff they make is for fishing. The hat can go either way (and I’ve had people ask me whether I fish when I’m wearing it) but the t-shirt has a bike wrench on it.

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withak  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:25:32am

re: #253 Anymouse

Interesting, Mr. Goldberg’s name has that “echo” that alt-right Neo-Nazis created to identify Jews or organisations that support them. Google pulled that Chrome app yesterday that puts the thee parentheses around those names.

People have been doing it on purpose for a couple days now.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:25:39am

re: #242 darthstar

Glad to hear the job is going well. Something more rewarding than the wingnut conference seat thing I hope.

re: #245 Anymouse

What sort of work do you do? Genuinely interested.

I’m an insurance agent now, mostly selling auto and home insurance. I’m actually better doing this than I was at non-defense B2B sales.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:27:53am

re: #166 Romantic Heretic

I’m afraid one of these days he’s going to whip out something other than tweets.

Cuz, ya know, Manhood!

That is going to be a particular point of emphasis by Manafort before the first debate: “OK Donald, during the debate, whatever you do, don’t whip it out! Everyone already knows you are well hung and Hillary isn’t.”

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darthstar  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:28:11am

re: #256 Dark_Falcon

I’m an insurance agent now, mostly selling auto and home insurance. I’m actually better doing this than I was at non-defense B2B sales.

Cool. I love my insurance agent. He calls me every year to lower my rates by looking for better deals. I was paying $353 a month about four years ago for auto on our cars…now down to $199.

Build good relationships, flag every sale for follow up on renewal, and you’ll be cruising.

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thedopefishlives  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:28:28am

re: #253 Anymouse

Interesting, Mr. Goldberg’s name has that “echo” that alt-right Neo-Nazis created to identify Jews or organisations that support them. Google pulled that Chrome app yesterday that puts the thee parentheses around those names.

They did what now? Dafuq is wrong with these people?

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451_Montag  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:29:01am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Honestly if I were you, I’d ask myself what it is about the GOP that inspires such loyalty. And honestly, I think you’re way too hard on yourself. I understand what it’s like being socially awkward and have few close friends being on the autistic spectrum myself especially when the friends you make on the spectrum are often because of things like common interests. However, even with that I do have a couple of friends, a couple of really good ones at that I disagree with politics a lot on. DF, you’d still be you without the Republican Party. Don’t let them define your identity as an individual.

I think supporting the GOP is simply they give you permission to think dark thoughts. If you ever leave the team then you would have to examine your beliefs in the cold light of day. Think of the generally nice guy who is just a bit of a bigot. Not an out and out racist but job, but the guy who looks at a person of color and feels a bit icky. No reason for it just a bit uncomfortable. The GOP gives that justification. If lots of people are a bit racist then the problem isnt internalised, but it is OK, other people feel it, it’s not just an individual but there must be so strong in it. Apply to anything or anyone who is an other. Group confirmation.

To leave the “team” you have to look t yourself.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:29:20am

re: #256 Dark_Falcon

I’m an insurance agent now, mostly selling auto and home insurance. I’m actually better doing this than I was at non-defense B2B sales.

Insurance agents used to be considered respectable work (to be fair, I consider it respectable work now). I don’t know why insurance agents got such a bad rap.

As I recall, in “Father Knows Best,” the lead is an insurance agent.

Me, I have no problems with my insurance agent. (They just obtained for me the Canadian Auto Liability cards I need for my upcoming trip.) They are constantly on the lookout for us when a benefit or premium reduction comes along for home or auto insurance. I would recommend my insurance agent to anyone looking for insurance here.

I suspect it is like most jobs: A couple of bad actors can give a whole industry or service a bad name.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:32:14am

re: #255 withak

People have been doing it on purpose for a couple days now.

It’s Goldberg saying “Yes, I’m a Jew and proud of it!”. It does the important job of telling bigots off.

The truly hysterical thing is that these Neo-Nazi assholes designed an app that highlights Donald Trump’s son-in-law even while they roar their support for The Donald.

If Trump wins they’re going to be disappointed and thwarted as much as if he loses, because he’s not going to side with a bunch of internet haters over his grandkids.

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withak  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:33:26am

re: #261 Anymouse

Insurance agents used to be considered respectable work (to be fair, I consider it respectable work now). I don’t know why insurance agents got such a bad rap.

As I recall, in “Father Knows Best,” the lead is an insurance agent.

Me, I have no problems with my insurance agent. (They just obtained for me the Canadian Auto Liability cards I need for my upcoming trip.) They are constantly on the lookout for us when a benefit or premium reduction comes along for home or auto insurance. I would recommend my insurance agent to anyone looking for insurance here.

I suspect it is like most jobs: A couple of bad actors can give a whole industry or service a bad name.

I don’t have an actual agent (I have USAA) and I get annoyed with the amount of junk mail I get from various local agents trying to get me to sign up with them.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:34:08am

re: #261 Anymouse

Insurance agents used to be considered respectable work (to be fair, I consider it respectable work now). I don’t know why insurance agents got such a bad rap.

As I recall, in “Father Knows Best,” the lead is an insurance agent.

Me, I have no problems with my insurance agent. (They just obtained for me the Canadian Auto Liability cards I need for my upcoming trip.) They are constantly on the lookout for us when a benefit or premium reduction comes along for home or auto insurance. I would recommend my insurance agent to anyone looking for insurance here.

I suspect it is like most jobs: A couple of bad actors can give a whole industry or service a bad name.

It’s Ned Ryerson’s fault.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:34:23am

re: #261 Anymouse

Insurance agents used to be considered respectable work (to be fair, I consider it respectable work now). I don’t know why insurance agents got such a bad rap.

As I recall, in “Father Knows Best,” the lead is an insurance agent.

Me, I have no problems with my insurance agent. (They just obtained for me the Canadian Auto Liability cards I need for my upcoming trip.) They are constantly on the lookout for us when a benefit or premium reduction comes along for home or auto insurance. I would recommend my insurance agent to anyone looking for insurance here.

I suspect it is like most jobs: A couple of bad actors can give a whole industry or service a bad name.

That’s what it is: A few bad firms or dishonest agents make a whole industry look bad. As for me, I aim to be the solution for my customers and I work to ensure I’m not part of the problem.

Gotta roll, BBL.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:34:53am

re: #259 thedopefishlives

They did what now? Dafuq is wrong with these people?

thinkprogress.org (report on Google pulling the app from its store)

mic.com (the original article which exposed the app)

The app is called the “coincidence detector.”

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retired cynic  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:37:02am

re: #258 darthstar

Cool. I love my insurance agent. He calls me every year to lower my rates by looking for better deals. I was paying $353 a month about four years ago for auto on our cars…now down to $199.

Build good relationships, flag every sale for follow up on renewal, and you’ll be cruising.

My beloved grandfather was an insurance agent. I remember riding around with him in the summer vacations as a kid as he covered the small towns in his area.

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thedopefishlives  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:37:05am

re: #266 Anymouse

thinkprogress.org (report on Google pulling the app from its store)

mic.com (the original article which exposed the app)

The app is called the “coincidence detector.”

Crikey. These people are so vile.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:41:37am

mic.com previously reported on the app. The original use of ((())) for us oldz was a virtual hug (I used that all the way back in 1980 on my Commodore 64-run BBS).

The origins of the symbol ((())) can be traced to a hardcore, right-wing podcast called The Daily Shoah in 2014. It’s known as an “echo” in the anti-Semitic corners of the alt-right — a new, young, amorphous conservative movement that comprises trolls fluent in internet culture, free speech activists warring against political correctness and earnest white nationalists. Some use the symbol to mock Jews; others seek to expose supposed Jewish collusion in controlling media or politics. All use it to put a target on their heads.

To the public, the symbol is not easily searchable on most sites and social networks; search engines strip punctuation from results. This means that trolls committed to uncovering, labeling and harassing Jewish users can do so in relative obscurity: No one can search those threats to find who’s sending them.

Of course, when a person or organisation is identified in that way, then the hate mail screeds come pouring in.

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:42:13am

re: #268 thedopefishlives

Crikey. These people are so vile.

Yeah, funny, isn’t it, that a certain current political campaign seems to have drawn a raft of neo-Nazis and general antisemites out of the woodwork, and onto the Internet?

Wonder if that’s just a “coincidence”, too….?

(((Jay C)))

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:47:08am

re: #270 Jay C

Yeah, funny, isn’t it, that a certain current political campaign seems to have drawn a raft of neo-Nazis and general antisemites out of the woodwork, and onto the Internet?

Wonder if that’s just a “coincidence”, too….?

(((Jay C)))

The “coincidence” they are highlighting (an actual coincidence detector is a device in neurobiology) is the alleged number of Jews in the media to supposed skewing of news articles. (Thus, the idea is to show “Jewish control of the media,” a long-standing crank right-wing conspiracy theory.)

Since the list is (was) populated by users, in addition to allegedly Jewish names, allegedly Jewish leaning organisations could be put on it (for example, Forbes Magazine was on the list). Presumably, a former member of LGF that hates the site now for some reason could have put LGF on the list, then any time it appeared on a Website or a Tweet it would appear as (((Little Green Footballs))) or (((LGF))).

The idea is to highlight the name to target it for hate mail.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:50:00am

re: #261 Anymouse

Insurance agents used to be considered respectable work (to be fair, I consider it respectable work now). I don’t know why insurance agents got such a bad rap.

As I recall, in “Father Knows Best,” the lead is an insurance agent.

Me, I have no problems with my insurance agent. (They just obtained for me the Canadian Auto Liability cards I need for my upcoming trip.) They are constantly on the lookout for us when a benefit or premium reduction comes along for home or auto insurance. I would recommend my insurance agent to anyone looking for insurance here.

I suspect it is like most jobs: A couple of bad actors can give a whole industry or service a bad name.

Yeah, but then so’s the lead in Double Indemnity…
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:51:11am

Former NSA head Michael Hayden: “We kill people based on metadata.”

Former NSA boss: “We kill people based on metadata”

Let that one sink in, folks-especially if we get a President Trump.

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:52:08am

re: #271 Anymouse

Presumably, a former member of LGF that hates the site now for some reason could have put LGF on the list, then any time it appeared on a Website or a Tweet it would appear as (((Little Green Footballs))) or (((LGF))).

The idea is to highlight the name to target it for hate mail.

I’d really be surprised if someone hasn’t tried to do that already. And even more surprised if Charles hadn’t caught and blammed them long since….

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:53:39am

re: #274 Jay C

I’d really be surprised if someone hasn’t tried to do that already. And even more surprised if Charles hadn’t caught and blammed them long since….

That might explain where Mr. Johnson gets so much of his neo-Nazi Twitter hate mail from.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:55:10am

Dark, WRT teams and all, and your assessment that you need to stick with that team because nobody else would have you, might I humbly point out that, although various of us periodically give you a hard time and hold your feet to the fire, you continue to be welcomed here in this virtual community. We may be imaginary, but we accept you as a friend.

In fact it’s very like family - mine, anyhow. We give each other shit, but we worry when we don’t hear from someone, and we celebrate the good times and empathize with the bad ones.

Not a complete substitute for friends and family IRL, but it does say you can be accepted as other than a member of a particular team.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 4, 2016 • 10:59:17am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:03:39am
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allegro  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:06:27am

re: #276 Blind Frog Belly White

Dark, WRT teams and all, and your assessment that you need to stick with that team because nobody else would have you, might I humbly point out that, although various of us periodically give you a hard time and hold your feet to the fire, you continue to be welcomed here in this virtual community. We may be imaginary, but we accept you as a friend.

In fact it’s very like family - mine, anyhow. We give each other shit, but we worry when we don’t hear from someone, and we celebrate the good times and empathize with the bad ones.

Not a complete substitute for friends and family IRL, but it does say you can be accepted as other than a member of a particular team.

I gotta wonder how tenuous those family and friend bonds are that depend on who one votes for.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:18:40am

re: #271 Anymouse

The “coincidence” they are highlighting (an actual coincidence detector is a device in neurobiology) is the alleged number of Jews in the media to supposed skewing of news articles. (Thus, the idea is to show “Jewish control of the media,” a long-standing crank right-wing conspiracy theory.)

Since the list is (was) populated by users, in addition to allegedly Jewish names, allegedly Jewish leaning organisations could be put on it (for example, Forbes Magazine was on the list). Presumably, a former member of LGF that hates the site now for some reason could have put LGF on the list, then any time it appeared on a Website or a Tweet it would appear as (((Little Green Footballs))) or (((LGF))).

The idea is to highlight the name to target it for hate mail.

See also: Antisemitic canards

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:18:52am
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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:21:30am
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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:22:31am

re: #278 Charles Johnson

And your public denouncement of that sort of rhetoric (said denouncement appearing on Huffington Post) is why I am here now and was not in the past.

On the other hand, taking me on board may not have been the best choice for you. /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:23:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:24:50am
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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:25:35am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

They should sue Mr. Trump for defamation or infringement of their property.

As many suits as Mr. Trump has gone through, he should be used to it by now.

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:26:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:27:41am

re: #286 Anymouse

They should sue Mr. Trump for defamation or infringement of their property.

As many suits as Mr. Trump has gone through, he should be used to it by now.

The TV station (WCPO) should as well, since that’s where the image originated.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:28:52am

re: #280 Teukka

See also: Antisemitic canards

What made this app even worse is that the idea was it created a textual dogwhistle.

A seemingly neutral Tweet or Facebook post about Michael Bloomberg for example, would have the parentheses put around Mr. Bloomberg’s last name.

The non-bigot, thinking the article or post was interesting, would forward the post to his or her friends, using non-bigots to spread bigotry on their behalf (something like a force multiplier).

That would alert people in that person’s list of friends who might not be out as a neo-Nazi or whatnot to the targeted name without exposing the person as a bigot.

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Kragar  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:33:06am

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton moved Friday to muzzle a former state regulator who says he was ordered in 2010 to drop a fraud investigation into Trump University for political reasons.

Paxton’s office issued a cease and desist letter to former Deputy Chief of Consumer Protection John Owens after he made public copies of a 14-page internal summary of the state’s case against Donald Trump for scamming millions from students of his now-defunct real estate seminar.

Owens, now retired, said his team had built a solid case against the now-presumptive Republican presidential nominee, but was told to drop it after Trump’s company agreed to cease operations in Texas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:35:09am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

The TV station (WCPO) should as well, since that’s where the image originated.

oh, lookie:
Trump tweets doctored photo ripped off WCPO.com

The photographer, Joseph Fuqua, says he knows the family personally. He says the suggestion that they endorse Trump is off base.

“I know they don’t,” Fuqua told WCPO Saturday.

Fuqua said he got a tweet telling him that his photo had been doctored and “seen by millions.”

“I ought to send him a bill,” Fuqua said, referring to Trump.

“Look, I know how campaigns work and I don’t imagine Donald Trump did it personally. It was some intern. But if a billionaire is going to use my photo, he should pay for it.”

tweet from the photographer when he heard about the Trump tweet:

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:36:43am

re: #290 Kragar

Yup. Then AG (now governor) Abbot got a mysterious campaign donation from Mr. Trump shortly afterward (just like Pam Bondi in Florida). Of note, it was the only campaign donation Mr. Trump ever made to a Texas politician.

My brother-in-law lives in Texas; he notes this morning that a whole bunch of folk around him are livid at what’s going on.

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Tigger2  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:38:20am

re: #290 Kragar

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Something for the DOJ to look into.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:38:57am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

There is no signal i can send that would mean much of anything.

And the glee you take in Republicans’ troubles is noted. I hope the discomfiture I feel right now is delivered unto you in equal measure.

It’s hard day in day out watching you deplore the things Republicans have chosen to exploit to win, yet also celebrate those victories, yet also pretend that the heinous, fear-mongering that got the “win” hasn’t colored the party. Now the exact thing people on this board—especially Charles himself—have been warning has happened: the insane populism, paranoia, and mountebankry has completely overrun even the basic checks on self-preservation the party had. This was a preventable tragedy, it did not “happen” like a meteor fall: a whole succession of decisions were made to reach this point. And most of those decisions involved venality, cowardice, and compromises that should have been unacceptable. The state of play is the direct product of what has come before.

But this is about how you—and I mean YOU—spend you time going back and forth between loathing the wingnuts and talking about how you have to win by stroking wingnuts. So what’s the principle involved, Dark? What THE THING that justifies all of this? Because you don’t care about freedom or limited government—you drop in to authoritarian justification at speed, and seem to be cool with the actuality of what the people you vote for do with civil liberties. Or even taxation, since I don’t see you pay any attention to all the back-end regressive taxes that inevitably come along to fill in for income tax cut.

You—YOU personally—like to assert what you do has honor and character, but where are those traits when it matters? You run from arguments. When you “get tired” you insult the rest of us using wingnut ideas and phrases that you supposedly deplore. And more than anything else, you fall back on the idea that the rest of us cannot be correct because we are axiomatically less intelligent and/or less moral. Yes, you do. You turn around and get nasty about how we’re socialists (and thus Wrong!), and about how we’re silly and don’t know what we’re talking about. Frankly, how are the rest of us supposed to engage with your romanticism that is only nominally political?

Yes, I said romanticism. You operate within an eidolon of “conservatism” that has vague edges, blurry details, and no longer corresponds to the object upon which the concept was derived. You interact with board largely in emotional, expressive terms but simultaneously demand to be treated as a manifestation of a “serious” reasoned movement. The articles you cite rely on appeal to authority and heady doses of condescension…that you seem to understand as forms of validity. You support candidates while unaware of their actual positions or prior actions…or, as notably happened in the case of Ted Cruz, tried to deflect accounting the man’s actual record and stances as a matter of unresolve-able difference of opinion.

I—and I’m guessing a bunch of other people here—do not know how to interact with someone who wants to insist that his statements have veracity on the basis of nothing, and who leaps to dismissal when contradicted. I especially don’t know how to deal with someone who does all that, but more than once has broken down and conceded that their strong assertions that they are Right-as-in-Conservative and Right-as—in-Correct is about loneliness, family issues, and feeling connected to other people. It is very frustrating have someone at once in the conversation but uninterested in what is said, because they are preoccupied with their feelings, which they will not differentiate from their thoughts.

But we’re not always going to respond well, because we’re dealing with the long-term consequences of angry, rigid “Team GOP” activity…a great deal of which impacts us personally, because we fall into one of the “them” categories in those meaty, satisfying absolutist us-versus-them scenarios that are the rhetorical currency of the party. We’re gay, and non-Christian, and Muslim, and trans, and slightly peeved about taxation models with very consistent biases, and like not being called traitors if we’re skeptical about war policy and war-as-policy. Which make you a localized conundrum, in that you want us to be “okay” with you, specifically, in spite of the ramifications of your politics for us…but also turn around and render us part of “them” whenever we prod your assumptions. So we’re supposed to judge your intentions, but not how the policies and individuals you support materially don’t reflect your intentions, but also how you refuse to concede that gulf…and also not your intentions when you get stroppy and you sound like the people that actually plan unfortunate shit for us “liberals.”

For me, its about the team because without the team I’m nobody. I often find social interaction with those I do not know awkward and I have relatively few friends, so I have to stay loyal to what I’ve got. If the ship sinks, I’m going down with it. Because I’m not likely to find another crew willing to take me on.

Here’s the thing, Dark. Everything I said above I think is accurate, by I’m not saying it because I hate you or even entirely dislike you or I want you to go away. You definitely piss me off, but…you piss me off because you let me down. Most people don’t get to let me down because I have no expectations they’ll be good. You shows signs of being compassionate, but then stray off into almost ritualized demonstrations of being smug or being thoughtless. It’s hard to watch, because you’ve got issues that you’re projecting onto politics. You don’t come across as thinking deeply, you come across as have deep feelings that are only vaguely connected to the things you say you believe.

You throw your feelings at us, but scoff at our feelings, our thoughts, and our citations-provided actual concerns about real acts of legislation. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio being excellent examples of this trend of “I feel, you don’t get to oppose my feelings with feelings, thoughts, or data.” I am sorry you are unhappy at times, but the pattern on this board is getting repetitive.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:40:54am

re: #289 Anymouse

What made this app even worse is that the idea was it created a textual dogwhistle.

A seemingly neutral Tweet or Facebook post about Michael Bloomberg for example, would have the parentheses put around Mr. Bloomberg’s last name.

The non-bigot, thinking the article or post was interesting, would forward the post to his or her friends, using non-bigots to spread bigotry on their behalf (something like a force multiplier).

That would alert people in that person’s list of friends who might not be out as a neo-Nazi or whatnot to the targeted name without exposing the person as a bigot.

Also for force multiplication of my post, look at the canards and change the ethnicity of the bogeyman to something else… And who spreads the latter canards…
*whistles innocently*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:46:18am

So, I get these “followers” every so often, but this one takes the cake.
Why would I pay $59 for 10,000 Twimmer followers?

Reported as spam and blocked.

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Kragar  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:46:58am
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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:47:04am

re: #294 The Ghost of a Flea

You operate within an eidolon of “conservatism”

I had to look up “eidolon” (I don’t have to look up the definitions of words very often, due to my low intelligence and morals).

Ah dun lern’d sumptin’ new here! Now I will have to work “eidolon” into every conversation I can think of for a couple weeks.

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electrotek  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:47:56am

Faithless - Muhammad Ali

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:49:12am
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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:53:56am

re: #295 Teukka

Also for force multiplication of my post, look at the canards and change the ethnicity of the bogeyman to something else… And who spreads the latter canards…
*whistles innocently*

What I’m hinting at is that it is not for nothing we are seeing a rise in white supremacy shit in connection with Trump.
The canards the right wing are using about “libs” etc are often nothing but rebadged antisemitic canards with a spackle and paint job.
It’s not that big an ideological step between believing in the rebadge and then move to the original one.
Also, because of the high control methods the right wing has been using and the resulting general increased controllability of their base, it’s not that difficult for more extreme right-wing ideologies such as white supremacy to sneak in.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:56:38am

re: #300 wrenchwench

The Union Pacific guy didn’t know what a Class 1 Train Inspection is?

It is a brake inspection defined in law.

Here is the law.
law.cornell.edu

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:57:59am
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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 11:59:53am

re: #301 Teukka

Also, because of the high control methods the right wing has been using and the resulting general increased controllability of their base, it’s not that difficult for more extreme right-wing ideologies such as white supremacy to sneak in.

I wasn’t aware they ever left the right wing.

Lee Atwater’s infamous 1981 quote:

You start out in 1954 by saying, “n*****, n*****, n*****.” By 1968 you can’t say “n*****”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites…. “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “n*****, n*****.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:03:03pm

re: #304 Anymouse

I wasn’t aware they ever left the right wing.

Lee Atwater’s infamous 1981 quote:

The Atwater bit is why I can’t let the GOP establishment off the hook.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:03:29pm

re: #304 Anymouse

I wasn’t aware they ever left the right wing.

Lee Atwater’s infamous 1981 quote:

Bingo.

Next step, identify the bogeymen shifted to, more than the classic “lib”, “soshulist” or “commie”.

I meant right-wing as more generic, not the fringe.

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lizardofid  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:05:05pm

re: #281 wrenchwench

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Great photo, I wonder if that might be Teofilo Stevenson over Fidel’s left shoulder? Some great boxing talent is a small space right there.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:05:32pm

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

For me, its about the team because without the team I’m nobody. I often find social interaction with those I do not know awkward and I have relatively few friends, so I have to stay loyal to what I’ve got. If the ship sinks, I’m going down with it. Because I’m not likely to find another crew willing to take me on.

And yet we haven’t banned you. We’re not even asking you to become Light Falcon. We think your party is tearing itself apart and the only way you’re going to save it is to not help it in its current form. Trump is not only wrong for the country, his supporters need to know that he’swrong for the party. And the way to do that is to not vote for him. Supporting him is like handing a druggy a bag of cocaine.

We’re more liberal than not, but we haven’t driven people off for being Republican. And you have been living here for a while.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:12:35pm

re: #300 wrenchwench

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yep. I saw this yesterday:

Not good at all.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:13:02pm

I think the Democrats need a strong conservative voice in opposition to it, if for no other reason than to keep the left honest. (I would like to see the left be more left, but one step at a time.)

The GOP in disarray with a talking fascist yam at the head of its party is not good for conservatives, the GOP, or the country.

While I do not hold much in common with my senator Ben Sasse, I am encouraged by his continued opposition to Mr. Trump despite the whithering fire he is getting on his Facebook page, Twitter account, and in local newspaper letters over his decision that he cannot support the presumptuous nominee.

Mr. Sasse shows a strength of character that people like Representative Paul Ryan have not—Mr. Sasse is putting country before party, even if it costs him his job (though Mr. Sasse just got elected in 2014).

Mr. Sasse could be looking to the future, where he sees the wreckage from this election to build a stronger and more inclusive GOP (and possibly around himself, but hey, if he survives without bending his principles, he likely deserves it).

I took pen to paper to tell Mr. Sasse that exact thing, that though we do not agree on policy I support his character and principles in this.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:14:32pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:16:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:24:04pm

*sigh*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:25:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:26:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:26:37pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*sigh*

I’m sick of him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:26:53pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*sigh*

Sanders has to maintain the pretense that he could win at least through Tuesday if he wants to win California, which he clearly does.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:27:09pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah but the polls Nate, the polls. Never mind actual votes, the polls are where it’s all at.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:27:13pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is such an ass… If HRC keeps pace with what happened this last week, the Bern will be nothing but a fucking gadfly by convention time.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:28:07pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*sigh*

Bernie is a much bigger asshole than I initially imagined.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:28:37pm

Anyhow I saw this on Giordano’s Twitter feed but apparently the guy running against DWS is attacking her from the right on the Iran agreement……….

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:29:16pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nate is correct. Bernie should try to learn how to lose gracefully. I doubt he will.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:30:26pm

Ohio will pay Planned Parenthood nearly $50,000 as part of a high-profile settlement after its top legal official accused the group of illegally dumping fetal remains in landfills.

Planned Parenthood filed the lawsuit last December over the explosive charges from Attorney General Mike DeWine, who said fetal remains from Ohio clinics were being “steam-cooked and taken to a Kentucky landfill.”

The settlement of $45,447 in legal bills, first reported by the Dayton Daily News, ends a long-running legal battle between Ohio state officials and Planned Parenthood, which included a temporary restraining order against the attorney general.

The women’s health group claimed that Ohio had tweaked a state rule requiring fetuses to be disposed of in a “humane manner” — without defining the term — in an attempt to target abortion clinics.

Some of that GOP “fiscal responsibility” coming home to roost…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:31:51pm

re: #322 PhillyPretzel

Nate is correct. Bernie should try to learn how to lose gracefully. I doubt he will.

I am still fairly confident that at some point between now and the convention Bernie will concede.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:31:53pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Some of that GOP “fiscal responsibility” coming home to roost…

A nice reminder why Kasich was just as bad as Trump, Rubio, and Cruz.

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Snarknado!  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:33:03pm

re: #298 Anymouse

I had to look up “eidolon” (I don’t have to look up the definitions of words very often, due to my low intelligence and morals).

Ah dun lern’d sumptin’ new here! Now I will have to work “eidolon” into every conversation I can think of for a couple weeks.

Your village doesn’t think you’re weird enough already?

:)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:33:03pm

re: #324 Big Beautiful Door

I am still fairly confident that at some point between now and the convention Bernie will concede.

I hope you’re right and that this is just desperation to rally the troops. He really is acting like a brat. Instead of taking some pride in doing well for a self described Democratic socialist, he’s acting like a bitter old man who can’t accept the fact that he lost fairly.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:34:59pm

re: #119 Big Beautiful Door

She should blame the idiots who sent him to Vietnam.

Agreed. I went to Nam three times and have never wavered in my love for Ali. He was right, after all, and was a naive Ohio River small town boy.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:36:18pm

re: #234 wrenchwench

Good to see you!

How are you feeling?

Good. Things went as well as could be expected. I hope to be out of here and back home on Monday. Just a couple more tubes and IV’s to get removed and I will be good to go.

Thx.

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(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:37:29pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

And the Bernie enthusiasts around here since why I don’t support him.

Bernie had good ideas, but has an awkward start. Sure, some of his plans were off, but every politician needs a pie in the sky goal. Then unflattering things started happening. And sure, even the Big Dog himself can have an off day, but Bernie’s have been constant. And the last month he’s gotten worse.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:37:36pm

I have to mow my lawn later today (if it doesn’t rain again); at that time I will be taking my Sanders sign down and not putting it back up.

Though Mrs. Clinton noted Mr. Sanders can run his campaign any way he likes, the contest is over. (I would note that in a marathon for example, the rest of the runners don’t quit when it becomes obvious one person is going to win.)

What I would like to see Mr. Sanders do is uphold his promise to support Mrs. Clinton if she became the nominee. Many of Mr. Sanders’s ideas, though they would need policy work, are in fact workable and desirable.

He cannot do that if he leaves the race in anger. He ran, he put forth his ideas with a campaign financed in a novel way that got some real attention, but he did not win the majority of the votes in either primaries or caucuses.

(My Sanders sign did do one positive thing: Since I know every person in my town, it sparked conversations about the things he stands for versus the other candidates that are or were running. It gave me the opportunity to talk about ideas that are generally accepted uncritically and why or why not they might be good or bad.)

If Mr. Sanders chooses to run to the last vote as he has promised, I have no problem with that. But when that last vote is counted, it is the will of the voters that should matter, and that will lies solidly with Mrs. Clinton.

I wonder how many of the Sanders supporters are not actually Democrats though (or even voted before), since in several states it seemed they had no clue how the nominating process in the party works. Mr. Sanders was aware of the superdelegate system when he threw his hat in the ring (and I’ll bet the Republicans wished they had such a system now).

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:38:16pm
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(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:38:29pm

re: #324 Big Beautiful Door

I am still fairly confident that at some point between now and the convention Bernie will concede.

Which Convention? 2020, or 2016. :P

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:40:26pm

re: #332 goddamnedfrank

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Okay so Bernie wants the SDs to go against the will of the voters? Yeah fuck you Bernie. F-u-c-k you. Bernie just can’t accept that a woman with strong backing from minority voters beat him. You’re not in Vermont anymore buddy where you can just get white voters.

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Jenner7  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:40:47pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, in other words, Bernie is lying to his supporters.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:40:48pm

GHAAAA!!!11!!!

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:40:58pm

re: #326 Snarknado!

Your village doesn’t think you’re weird enough already?

:)

You can never be weird enough. Liberal, hair to my waist, erotic Romance novel editor, travel out of the country (I kid you not, when we got back from Poland last year there were people that said they were afraid for our safety because they were convinced Daesh was going to overrun it), drive a car that will fit in the back of everyone’s trucks here… .

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Snarknado!  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:43:27pm

re: #337 Anymouse

You can never be weird enough. Liberal, hair to my waist, erotic Romance novel editor, travel out of the country (I kid you not, when we got back from Poland last year there were people that said they were afraid for our safety because they were convinced Daesh was going to overrun it), drive a car that will fit in the back of everyone’s trucks here… .

They were convinced Daesh is going to overrun Poland… now THAT’s weird.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:44:38pm

Ummm, No.

Obama:

I don’t know how she does it because she’s everywhere all the time, non stop, and she’s a mom and a wife, and has been just an incredible supporter of my agenda. She’s taken tough votes when they’re the right thing to do, and she is somebody who I have counted on consistently.’

‘She’s had my back. I want to make sure we have her back - Debbie Wasserman Schultz.’

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Stanley Sea  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:47:02pm

Worth the read. This is a #nevertrump person who bases it on morality.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:48:15pm

re: #338 Snarknado!

They were convinced Daesh is going to overrun Poland… now THAT’s weird.

The gun shop owner first said that to my wife at a town party only two days after we got back. She was floored that someone would believe that (I don’t think even Alex Jones has floated that idea). Several other people who later asked us about our trip to Canada, Germany, and Poland also chimed in with that idea. (I was a bit more concerned while I was in Poland that Russia might do something, since they were building up their military forces in Kaliningrad, thirty miles from where we were staying.)

We assured them Poland is quite safe. (I think the problem is more most of the people here have never travelled very far, and the world consists of the USA and everywhere else. Thus, Daesh can overrun Poland because they are both in the everywhere else part.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:50:02pm

re: #341 Anymouse

The gun shop owner first said that to my wife at a town party only two days after we got back. She was floored that someone would believe that (I don’t think even Alex Jones has floated that idea). Several other people who later asked us about our trip to Canada, Germany, and Poland also chimed in with that idea. (I was a bit more concerned while I was in Poland that Russia might do something, since they were building up their military forces in Kaliningrad, thirty miles from where we were staying.)

We assured them Poland is quite safe. (I think the problem is more most of the people here have never travelled very far, and the world consists of the USA and everywhere else. Thus, Daesh can overrun Poland because they are both in the everywhere else part.)

I think Daesh wanted Poland because of the pierogis.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:50:25pm

re: #340 Stanley Sea

Worth the read. This is a #nevertrump person who bases it on morality.

I can see him becoming a Libertarian.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:52:12pm

re: #342 HappyWarrior

I think Daesh wanted Poland because of the pierogis.

Tabouli perogi?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:52:50pm

re: #340 Stanley Sea

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Worth the read. This is a #nevertrump person who bases it on morality.

Props.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:53:35pm

re: #344 Anymouse

Tabouli perogi?

Why not? I’ve done that before. My grandmother cringed since it went against tradition but pierogis are awesomely versatile.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 4, 2016 • 12:59:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:02:25pm

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah but it’s Bernie doing it Frank so it’s different somehow. The way the Clinton campaign acted in 2008 annoyed me and eight years later perhaps ironically Clinton’s campaign looks like Obama’s did in 2008 and Sanders looks like Clinton’s did in 08 though Clinton to her credit ended up being a great surrogate for Obama once he got nominated. I wish I could share that optimism about Bernie but he has a poor record campaign on behalf of people who aren’t him.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:06:17pm

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, but in 2008 reality glitched, as evidenced by the all-poweful Clinton Establishment machine blipping out of this plane of existence temporarily rather than stealing the nomination with its insider-of-all-insider supervenality.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:06:33pm

re: #346 HappyWarrior

Why not? I’ve done that before. My grandmother cringed since it went against tradition but pierogis are awesomely versatile.

My wife made Canada goose pierogi a few days ago. (During hunting season, the former mayor shot a couple and brought them by our house.)

We were staying in a hotel only a few meters from a restaurant that specialised in pierogi (it had a menu with sixteen pages of pierogi). I had everything from kielbasa to wild boar to strawberry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:07:17pm

re: #341 Anymouse

(I think the problem is more most of the people here have never travelled very far, and the world consists of the USA and everywhere else Thus, Daesh can overrun Poland because they are both in the everywhere else part.)

Lots of people have never travelled further than 100 miles from where they were born, so even parts of the USA are “foreign”.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:07:51pm

re: #350 Anymouse

My wife made Canada goose pierogi a few days ago. (During hunting season, the former mayor shot a couple and brought them by our house.)

We were staying in a hotel only a few meters from a restaurant that specialised in pierogi (it had a menu with sixteen pages of pierogi). I had everything from kielbasa to wild boar to strawberry.

That sounds interesting heh. I’ve had them with salsa, hummus. I do like to cook them with kielbasa. I’m lucky. My great aunt and my cousins make a bunch for us every holiday season and we’re in good hands with home made pierogis for months.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:08:12pm

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lots of people have never travelled further than 100 miles from where they were born, so even parts of the USA are “foreign”.

Texas? Why that’s a whole ‘nother country!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:09:29pm

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lots of people have never travelled further than 100 miles from where they were born, so even parts of the USA are “foreign”.

I always think about that when researching my immigrant ancestors. It makes their journey all the more remarkable. I don’t know if you were here last night BWS when I brought it up but I finally found the censuses of my second great grandmother’s family in Scotland. Her parents were Irish but they lived in Scotland before they emigrated. Far from uncommon. I do wonder why they went to Scotland instead of directly to the US like her husband’s family presumably did.

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Snarknado!  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:12:29pm

re: #353 Anymouse

Texas? Why that’s a whole ‘nother country!

Well, yes.

(I say that as someone who has travelled pretty widely.)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:13:15pm

It’s now time for all concerned citizens to do the good and proper thing and to help put the GOP out of business once and for all, by any and all legal means necessary.

Sorry, Susan WebberYves Smith, but your nice little Politico rant didn’t change the political calculus one bit-and it showed an inherent threat to cast allegiance with a man who has more in common with your own readership (i.e., high net wealth) but don’t have the political clout-but ironically, Trump DOES have it-and he and his followers must be stopped.

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:19:50pm

re: #329 Eventual Carrion

Good. Things went as well as could be expected. I hope to be out of here and back home on Monday. Just a couple more tubes and IV’s to get removed and I will be good to go.

Thx.

Great!

I wish you a fast and enjoyable recovery!

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:24:36pm

HappyWarrior wrote (for some reason when I hit quote the Website responded with duplicate comment):

That sounds interesting heh. I’ve had them with salsa, hummus. I do like to cook them with kielbasa. I’m lucky. My great aunt and my cousins make a bunch for us every holiday season and we’re in good hands with home made pierogis for months.

One of the geese he brought by had two bands (one on each leg, both placed in Saskatchewan). He called in to Nebraska Game and Parks Division to report the bands (and sent them a photograph as evidence the bird had two different bands on them).

The state said they would enquire from Saskatchewan (out of curiosity) to find out why they banded one goose on each leg. As of yet, the state has not called him back to tell him why (perhaps Saskatchewan doesn’t know).

My wife posited that perhaps whoever was doing the banding was being paid for piecework so the quicker he could band geese the quicker he got out of the marshes in northern Saskatchewan.

They make good pierogi, though.

(She once told him she’d never had goose. The mayor was like “really? I’ll fix that.” The next morning at dawn we hear “blam blam blam” down by the river and fifteen minutes later he was at our door holding two dead Canada geese.)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:33:08pm
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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:33:21pm

re: #281 wrenchwench

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Not one of Ali’s better moments, clowning around with a Marxist dictator.

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:35:10pm

re: #360 Dark_Falcon

Not one of Ali’s better moments, clowning around with a Marxist dictator.

Demonstrates Ali’s status in the world, not his politics.

Are Marxists not to be clowned with?

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:38:35pm

re: #359 Stanley Sea

I read the article and agree. The odd thing was when I was reading it a little window opened up and it said something about that Trump person wanting to “waterboard” HRC. That is very odd/disturbing. Does this site usually have this type of “pop-up?”

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Stanley Sea  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:41:07pm

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Stanley Sea  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:42:16pm

re: #362 PhillyPretzel

I read the article and agree. The odd thing was when I was reading it a little window opened up and it said something about that Trump person wanting to “waterboard” HRC. That is very odd/disturbing Does this site usually have this type of “pop-up?”

Business Insider? No idea. I didn’t get a pop up.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:43:32pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

I did. It came in on the right side at the bottom.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:45:26pm

re: #359 Stanley Sea

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“Obama continued:

I just came from a meeting today in the Situation Room in which I got people who we know have been on ISIL Web sites, living here in the United States, U.S. citizens, and we’re allowed to put them on the no-fly list when it comes to airlines, but because of the National Rifle Association, I cannot prohibit those people from buying a gun.

This is somebody who is a known ISIL sympathizer. And if he wants to walk in to a gun store or a gun show right now and buy as much — as many weapons and ammo as he can, nothing’s prohibiting him from doing that, even though the FBI knows who that person is.

“

The answer to that is

“No, you can’t block him from buying a gun because he has committed no crime. Blocking someone from exercising a Constitutional Right because he was put on a watchlist whose criteria must be kept secret is, in my judgement, unconstitutional. It’s not a power the government should have because of the serious risk of it being misused.

And even if you wouldn’t misuse such power, Mr. President, I cannot assume your successor will be as restrained in his or her actions.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:47:40pm
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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:47:53pm

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

I think I might precede that reply with a sarcastic “Nice Strawman”.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:48:18pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sunfish.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:48:29pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:49:02pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

I do enjoy your collection of side-eye images. You have some nice ones.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:49:16pm

re: #368 Dark_Falcon

I think I might precede that reply with a sarcastic “Nice Strawman”.

What is your suggestion in how to stop a potential terrorist?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:49:38pm

re: #371 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I do enjoy your collection of side-eye images. You have some nice ones.

They do get a workout here from time to time.

:D

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:49:40pm

re: #372 Stanley Sea

What is your suggestion in how to stop a potential terrorist?

Pretty sure the answer here is going to be a “good guy with a gun.”

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Nyet  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:49:42pm

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

See, you think the Constitution is a suicide pact.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 4, 2016 • 1:50:47pm

Obama=can’t keep us safe, can’t keep us safe.

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Mattand  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:00:57pm

Only in conservative America can someone celebrate the Constitution by freely acknowledging that a person with known terrorist affiliations is allowed to buy as many guns as they want.

Fucking insane.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:01:37pm

re: #372 Stanley Sea

What is your suggestion in how to stop a potential terrorist?

Hope he steps over the line before attacking or that there’s enough firepower to take him down when he attacks. If not, then we bury the dead, and attack the network the network that radicalized him and try to do better next time.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:01:54pm

re: #377 Mattand

Only in conservative America can someone celebrate the Constitution by freely acknowledging that a person with known terrorist affiliations is allowed to buy as many guns as they want.

Fucking insane.

But can’t vote unless they cough up a whole lot of ID.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:02:23pm

re: #378 Dark_Falcon

Yep, there’s the good guy with a gun line. Just as expected.

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BeachDem  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:06:15pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Some of that GOP “fiscal responsibility” coming home to roost…

And supposedly DeWine wants to run for governor once Kasich finishes fucking up the state. Big Sigh. (DeWine is even worse than Kasich and has been for years.)

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:09:44pm

re: #379 Anymouse

But can’t vote unless they cough up a whole lot of ID.

They shouldn’t be able to buy a gun without ID, either.

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BeachDem  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:10:09pm

re: #331 Anymouse

Though Mrs. Clinton noted Mr. Sanders can run his campaign any way he likes, the contest is over. (I would note that in a marathon for example, the rest of the runners don’t quit when it becomes obvious one person is going to win.)

Going with your marathon example—no, the rest of the runners don’t quit, but they don’t throw down tack strips in front of the winner or try to kneecap him/her either.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:11:48pm

re: #380 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yep, there’s the good guy with a gun line. Just as expected.

And accept loss of life and “try to do better.”

Jim Wright over at Stonekettle Station noted a discussion on why there will be no reduction of gun violence, and that nothing can be done for over ten thousand suicides with firearms, many in domestic violence situations, &c.

Basically he notes that even when you get a person who is a guns for everyone sort of person to think about those issues and propose solutions, they then come out against their own solutions. There is no solution acceptable, because the solutions they propose are either illegal, or they are paranoid about their own solutions.

For example, taking the NRA premise that the mentally ill should not have firearms. Okay? How do you get from that position to ensuring mentally ill people should not have firearms? Well, there must be some way to assess people (and mandatory assessments would be illegal). Those assessments would then need to be made available to firearms dealers (and those releases of medical information would be illegal). And if someone is making lists of the mentally ill, why then just anyone could be put on the lists (thus the paranoia angle).

The fact remains is that the death rate from firearms is not going to change because liberals want it to change. It is because conservatives are opposed to their own solutions.

stonekettle.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:28:06pm

re: #384 Anymouse

The real core problem is that the pesky preamble on The Second Amendment is for all practical purposes inoperable-which makes me wonder why the Second Amendment is even enforceable in today’s world-“A well regulated militia….”?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:31:31pm

The fact of the matter is Re: guns, gun ownership has not gone down, it has in fact increased under Obama’s presidency. Honestly, I don’t think it’s helpful to the discussion that the NRA is spending outright lies about what this president intends to in regards to guns. You can ask NRA members themselves what they think should be done and most of them support background checks. I was talking to a friend who very much sees Obama as the enemy when it comes to guns and I asked him point blank well whoa do you think hf background checks and things lke that? He says he supports them and I asked him why the gun lobby whose organizations’ members when polled say tehy support measures like this freak their shit whenever Obama talks guns. He couldn’t give me an answer. I’m sorry but so much of the gun lobby is full of utter bullshit when it comes to gun politics. They want their members scared and armed because that gets them more money and more money is what hte bottom line is. The NRA and GOA don’t care about the average gun owner, they care about the firearms industry making lots of money off your fears.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:33:11pm

re: #385 Eric The Fruit Bat

The real core problem is that the pesky preamble on The Second Amendment is for all practical purposes inoperable-which makes me wonder why the Second Amendment is even enforceable in today’s world-“A well regulated militia….”?

But the militia clause of the II Amendment is workable today. What the NRA never quotes is the militia clause of Article I Section 8 of the main body of the Constitution, which defines the government’s role in the militia.

To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

The NRA doesn’t want its members to read that. The Constitution runs counter to their narrative. The militia is armed and organised by Congress, not gun shops.

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EPR-radar  Jun 4, 2016 • 2:38:20pm

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

There is no signal i can send that would mean much of anything.

And the glee you take in Republicans’ troubles is noted. I hope the discomfiture I feel right now is delivered unto you in equal measure.

What’s the point of this turd? The present day woes of the Republican party stem entirely from its decades long policy of dealing with political issues by wallowing in a cesspit and adding to it.

This mess is entirely on team (R).

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Altermite  Jun 4, 2016 • 3:49:11pm

re: #377 Mattand

Nonsense. The underlying issue is whether it is constitutional to deprive people of rights without due process. Whether that is the right to firearms (Right wing issue) or travel (original issue), or any other, it’s a serious concern. There are left wing groups bothered by it too.

aclu.org

aclu.org

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palomino  Jun 4, 2016 • 3:53:46pm

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

For me, its about the team because without the team I’m nobody. I often find social interaction with those I do not know awkward and I have relatively few friends, so I have to stay loyal to what I’ve got. If the ship sinks, I’m going down with it. Because I’m not likely to find another crew willing to take me on.

I was gonna say something mean about you being tribal and childish for wishing others to experience the discomfort that non-Trump Republicans currently feel.

But I won’t go any farther because your comment is so sad. And it’s not accurate. There is plenty of help for people with social phobias and anxiety disorders, especially in a big city like Chicago. Your well-being doesn’t really have to be tied to the GOP. That’s just a story you’ve told yourself.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 4, 2016 • 6:50:00pm

re: #385 Eric The Fruit Bat

I believe the second amendment absolutely does not refer to individual ownership if weapons. “The people” is a collective noun. The framers were not dummys. If they meant it as an individual right, they could easily have said so. E.g. “No person’s right shall be infringed” or some such.

And of course, that whole pesky “militia” clause and what “militia” meant then versus what it has come to mean.


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