Announcing: The Random Donald Trump Tweet Machine

Humor • Views: 49,206

Donald Trump has been a member of Twitter since 2009, and he tweets a lot. So I thought it might be amusing to create a little program that uses Twitter’s API to display a Donald Trump tweet chosen at random from his voluminous history of craziness.

This was inspired by @BuzzFeedAndrew, who tweeted earlier today:

So without further ado, Andrew, I give you the Random Donald Trump Tweet Machine. These are all real tweets, composed by the Republican Party’s nominee for president of the United States. Read ‘em and weep.

Jump to bottom

713 comments
1
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:04:32pm

Oh my. Those are real tweets! I thought it would just randomly put a bunch of words together to make imaginary Trump tweets.

Shit. I’m with Andrew. I could click the shit out this!

2
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:07:53pm

I believe i hear Twitter is keeping their Tweets for reference for the National Archives. In 40 years, we’ll look at these and remember the time that a lunatic got his party’s nomination for President.

3
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:08:32pm
4
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:09:25pm
5
withak  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:09:54pm

Is it sad that the first thing I thought of was, “I wonder how Charles implemented this?”

6
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:10:27pm
7
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:11:01pm
8
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:12:02pm
9
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:12:47pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

HAhaha I never knew about that one. Way to go Edison.

10
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:13:10pm

This is fucking brilliant!

11
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:14:01pm

I’M DYING!!!

12
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:14:42pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

I’M DYING!!!

[Embedded content]

IIRC they cut him that summer and Pat Robertson said the Broncos would be cursed for letting the good Christian go.

13
withak  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:16:26pm
14
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:17:05pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

IIRC they cut him that summer and Pat Robertson said the Broncos would be cursed for letting the good Christian go.

Super Bowl 50 Champs! And Peyton went out on top, like Elway did.

I don’t give a rats ass about that stuff, but dems da facts!

15
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:18:08pm

We keep re-tweeting his old shit he’s gonna get PISSED.

16
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:18:21pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

Super Bowl 50 Champs! And Peyton went out on top, like Elway did.

I don’t give a rats ass about that stuff, but dems da facts!

Facts, Trump, and Pat Robertson have never gotten along too well.

17
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:18:50pm

Yeah, sure.

18
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:20:13pm
19
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:20:29pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

Yeah, sure.

[Embedded content]

That’s perfect since I just found this one.

20
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:21:17pm

I AM YUGELY SUCCESSFUL! I HAD HARDLY ANY HELP!!!

21
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:21:30pm

Now this one may cost him.

22
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:22:18pm
23
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:24:08pm
24
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:24:16pm

I wan’t all the 2009’s.

25
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:24:42pm
26
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:25:49pm

So insightful NOT

27
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:28:10pm
28
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:28:14pm

He’s taking time off from the campaign trail next month to open this abomination.

29
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:29:16pm

One last one. Looking at Trump’s ugly face makes me sick.

30
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:29:42pm
31
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:29:44pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

He’s taking time off from the campaign trail next month to open this abomination.

My cousin’s in laws live in Scotland and the Scots fucking hate him.

32
withak  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:30:44pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

[Embedded content]

I missed this gem. Wow.

“When I said she got ‘penised,’ that’s not vulgar. She just got beat up. That’s what it means!”

33
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:31:37pm

re: #32 withak

I missed this gem. Wow.

“When I said she got ‘penised,’ that’s not vulgar. She just got beat up. That’s what it means!”

Yeah I had forgotten about it too. Seriously, this is a cool find. It shows how Trump basically says all sorts of stupid shit.

34
VegasGolfer  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:32:13pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

My cousin’s in laws live in Scotland and the Scots fucking hate him.

And ill be in ireland next week, if there are protests where im at, i’ll join in.

35
KGxvi  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:32:36pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

*In app purchases required (charges may exceed $35,000)

36
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:32:50pm

You’re monitoring all your calls in Trump Tower you fucking jackass.

OMG, this thing Charles made is pretty amazing!

37
Belafon  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:33:21pm

re: #5 withak

Is it sad that the first thing I thought of was, “I wonder how Charles implemented this?”

At one of the local fairs, I was talking to the guy selling woodcarvings, in his case designs carved into long pieces of wood, which were covered in varnish. I asked him how he did them, and he said a CNC router. At that point, we spent ten minutes talking about the type of CNC, how he got his designs, and if he did any g-code programming for them.

38
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:34:26pm
39
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:34:54pm

re: #34 VegasGolfer

And ill be in ireland next week, if there are protests where im at, i’ll join in.

Oh? What county will you be in? I’ve been in Dublin, Galway, Clare, Limerick and Kerry. Lovely country. Some of the most genuinely nicest people I’ve met were in Ireland. I want to make another trip now that I know where my family was from too.

40
KGxvi  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:34:56pm

More proof of his poor taste?

41
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:35:12pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Nice find Ski.

42
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:35:37pm

re: #40 KGxvi

[Embedded content]

More proof of his poor taste?

He loves Creed too probably.

43
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:36:55pm

re: #40 KGxvi

[Embedded content]

More proof of his poor taste?

LOLLLLLLLLL

44
majii  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:37:59pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

And, they handed him his *ss when he tried to claim that offshore solar powered wind generators would ruin the “view” on his golf course. After I read that the Scottish government told him to go pound sand, I was so happy. This is what he had to say after being rejected, and of course, it’s a lie.

“As dictated by Alex Salmond, a man whose obsession with obsolete wind technology will destroy the magnificence and beauty of Scotland. Likewise, tourism, Scotland’s biggest industry, will be ruined. We will spend whatever monies are necessary to see to it that these huge and unsightly industrial wind turbines are never constructed. All over the world they are being abandoned, but in Scotland they are being built. We will put our future plans in Aberdeen on hold, as will many others, until this ridiculous proposal is defeated. Likewise, we will be bringing a lawsuit within the allocated period of time to stop what will definitely be the destruction of Aberdeen and Scotland itself.”
treehugger.com

Dude is a real drama king.

45
FormerDirtDart  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:39:13pm

re: #40 KGxvi

[Embedded content]

More proof of his poor taste?

So, we know Trump is an admirer of “greeting card art”

46
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:39:23pm

re: #44 majii

And, they handed him his *ss when he tried to claim that offshore solar powered win generators would ruin the “view” on his golf course. After I read that the Scottish government told him to go pound sand, I was so happy. This is what he had to say after being rejected, and of course, it’s a lie.

“As dictated by Alex Salmond, a man whose obsession with obsolete wind technology will destroy the magnificence and beauty of Scotland. Likewise, tourism, Scotland’s biggest industry, will be ruined. We will spend whatever monies are necessary to see to it that these huge and unsightly industrial wind turbines are never constructed. All over the world they are being abandoned, but in Scotland they are being built. We will put our future plans in Aberdeen on hold, as will many others, until this ridiculous proposal is defeated. Likewise, we will be bringing a lawsuit within the allocated period of time to stop what will definitely be the destruction of Aberdeen and Scotland itself.”
treehugger.com

Dude is a real drama king.

Yeah it was the crap about his stupid golf course that he was bitching about.

47
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:42:56pm

Jesus fucking christ!

48
KGxvi  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:43:35pm

SCREWING CREDITORS WHO ENTERED INTO CONTRACTA IN GOOD FAITH IS JUST GOOD BUSINESS

49
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:44:14pm

LOOK HOW GOOD I LOOK!

50
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:44:31pm

Prob been tweeted recently, but worth the re-tweet every week

51
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:45:36pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Prob been tweeted recently, but worth the re-tweet every week

[Embedded content]

Definitely. It shows how insincere his attacks on Clinton are.

52
KGxvi  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:45:43pm

This should be the masthead at The Corner on NRO

53
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:51:25pm

This guy is sooo full of himself!

54
No Depression  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:52:23pm

Trump’s ghost writer has a pretty good vocabulary!

55
Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:53:01pm
56
Tigger2  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:53:37pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Now this one may cost him.

[Embedded content]

I had to retweet that one. lol

57
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:54:05pm

Climate change denier.

58
VegasGolfer  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:54:13pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Oh? What county will you be in? I’ve been in Dublin, Galway, Clare, Limerick and Kerry. Lovely country. Some of the most genuinely nicest people I’ve met were in Ireland. I want to make another trip now that I know where my family was from too.

re: #39 HappyWarrior
Gonna be in and about Clare and Galway. Its gonna be fun because the friends im going with, thats where they’re from. I’m looking forward to hanging out with the locals and getting some great pictures.

59
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:55:56pm

re: #58 VegasGolfer

Gonna be in and about Clare and Galway. Its gonna be fun because the friends im going with, thats where they’re from. I’m looking forward to hanging out with the locals and getting some great pictures.

I studied in Galway in college. Awesome place. Also visited Clare since that’s where the Cliffs of Moher are. I also have some roots in the Galway/Mayo area as my great grandmother was a Joyce. Have a great time. If you’re in Galway city, I highly recommend the King’s Head Pub but there’s so many great pubs in that city.

60
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:56:37pm

Huh?!?

61
VegasGolfer  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:57:16pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I studied in Galway in college. Awesome place. Also visited Clare since that’s where the Cliffs of Moher are. I also have some roots in the Galway/Mayo area as my great grandmother was a Joyce. Have a great time. If you’re in Galway city, I highly recommend the King’s Head Pub but there’s so many great pubs in that city.

Thanks. Will put that one on my list.

62
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 8:57:33pm

Charles. Seriously. This is pretty amazing.

63
No Depression  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:00:28pm

So this is what Trump was up to on Christmas Eve:

64
KGxvi  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:00:32pm

Anyone remember what this was about?

65
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:04:15pm

re: #63 No Depression

So this is what Trump was up to on Christmas Eve:

[Embedded content]

Dude, he doesn’t even have a kitchen on his floor. Everyone eats away from him.

His Christmas Eve’s must be extremely strained for whoever is the current Mother of his children.

66
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:05:26pm

OY! He has said he wants to kill *family members* of ISIS. He wanted to make the Germanwings pilot’s friends pay for his sins.

67
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:07:38pm
68
Frankie Five Angels  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:08:07pm

2013.

69
goddamnedfrank  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:11:18pm
70
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:11:52pm

Of course he has to refer to himself in the third person. teleskiguy notices this shit.

71
Frankie Five Angels  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:12:59pm

Dow highest in history today.

72
Kragar  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:15:40pm

Got some new reading material:

73
No Depression  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:17:23pm

Oh look, another failed Trump endorsement:

74
Frankie Five Angels  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:17:38pm
75
KGxvi  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:18:57pm

re: #74 Frankie Five Angels

The best part of that tweet from Trump is that Hagel probably would have been on Romney’s short list for DefSec

76
GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:19:10pm

Uh.

77
goddamnedfrank  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:19:27pm

Seen this play out over and over again.

78
KGxvi  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:21:25pm

Diplomacy skills achievement unlocked:

79
gwangung  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:24:48pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Seen this play out over and over again.

[Embedded content]

Usually from white people who don’t know the long history of the Clintons and the black community (and who I’m not entirely sure have any non-white friends….)

80
KGxvi  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:26:11pm

Pat isn’t ahead of his time, he’s far, far behind it

81
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:26:32pm
82
Kragar  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:28:26pm
83
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:32:40pm

David Futrelle paying the LGF Trump Bumpersticker Generator forward:

Hillary’s Big Win: A Politics Open Thread and Meme Contest or Something

84
FormerDirtDart  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:34:39pm

I suspect Calvin has been reading the works of Ayn Rand…

85
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:34:57pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Seen this play out over and over again.

[Embedded content]

Telling people they got duped. What a great way to convince them to vote for you! Or you could try treating them like people like Clinton did and see how that works out.*
*Pretty good

86
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:36:33pm

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Hey man, don’t you get the feeling that LGF will be an effective sword against a Donald Trump presidency? It’s shit like this. It’s says in Kragar’s Twitter bio “My default setting when dealing with RWNJs is mockery”

Well, fuck yeah!

A challenge to myself and to other readers here is to keep a gol’darn sense of humor during the general election.

I think we’ll be all right.

87
No Depression  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:36:36pm

Trump tweet about DeflateGate. Takes a good cheater to know one:

88
MsJ  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:37:09pm

re: #82 Kragar

The GOP is going to dump Trump at the convention. He’s not on their website… He’s gone. Mark my words.

89
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:38:29pm

liar

90
TK-421  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:41:30pm

Beloit billionaire posts string of zeros on state returns

Beloit billionaire Diane Hendricks, the richest woman in Wisconsin and a vice chair of the Trump Victory fundraising committee, didn’t pay a dime in state income tax from 2012 through 2014, records obtained by the Journal Sentinel show.

Hendricks, 69, has a net worth of nearly $5 billion, according to an estimate by Forbes Magazine, which this month named her “America’s Richest Self-Made Woman” — edging out Oprah Winfrey, who the magazine said had a net worth of $3.1 billion. Judy Faulkner, founder and CEO at Epic Systems Corp., a Verona health care software company, came in third with an estimated net worth of $2.4 billion.

Hendricks, co-founder and owner of ABC Supply Co. — the nation’s largest supplier of roofing — also owed no state taxes in 2010, meaning she paid no Wisconsin income taxes in four out of five years. The company, which she founded with her husband, Ken, in 1982, posts annual sales of about $6 billion. Ken Hendricks died in 2007.

91
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:41:41pm

Bailey’s article is really well written and I think it really gets at things I’ve observed over the past near eight years with a lot of progressives regarding Obama. It also seems that Bernie lost big among African-American voters 18-29. That’s something that I honestly wasn’t aware of and I imagine Clinton beat him with Hispanics and Asians among the same group though perhaps by not as big margins.

92
FormerDirtDart  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:41:43pm

Oh my, that’s gonna sting in the morning…

Click to Reveal

He ain’t talking about Bernie


93
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:42:23pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

Oh my, that’s gonna sting in the morning…

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]

Well there goes your bunny, Jeff.

94
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:44:14pm

Many Sanders supporters believed his push to regulate Wall Street and solve economic inequality would resonate with minority voters. It didn’t because minority voters know that liberal policies alone won’t reverse decades of racial inequalities. They have been loyal members of liberal unions where white Democrats received plush jobs, even if they were no more qualified than their black colleagues. They’ve seen the same thing in liberal Hollywood and the supposedly liberal world of the media, whose top ranks remain mostly white

Read more: politico.com
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

95
retired cynic  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:44:24pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

Oh my, that’s gonna sting in the morning…

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]

He was talking on NPR today. Yep!

96
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:45:27pm

Lizards, when you’re clicking on that RandoTrumpTweet button like a rat tapping on the food pellet thingy like some classic Pavlov experiment, do take note of the time stamp. Early tweets by The Donald™ - especially ones before he announced his candidacy - are probably pretty good to reproduce here or retweet.

97
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:46:31pm

From Dr. Matt downstairs, I see Rage Furby has posted a “bounty” in WeSearchr to see if Judge Curiel’s parents were undocumented immigrants. Anyone who spends money ($410 of $10,000 raised so far) would be wasting their money. Here’s why.

Immigration back when the elder Curiels were alive was very different from today. If someone entered the USA for work, as Salvador Curiel did, they could formally request to stay as permanent residents. This was called “having first papers,” meaning they intended to become naturalized citizens in the future. AFAIK, there were no time restrictions on when they could happen.

Secondly, Rage Furby himself has found (using familysearch.org, it seems) records of several border crossings by Salvador and then later Salvador and Francisca after their marriage in Mexico. These would be legal border crossings, being recorded and all, and I would presume border control agents would have checked to be sure everything was on the up-and-up. IOW, they were likely not undocumented aliens.

Next, the senior Curiel began as a farm worker and laborer, but eventually got work in a steel mill in Indiana. He would have had a Social Security number (and probably union membership). They owned a home, too, and were hardly living in fear of being deported. (Again, attitudes about “illegal immigrants” were different back then. The RW was more worried about Commies than Mexicans.]

Immigration laws then gave spouses of legal residents residency as well. So, if Salvador had “first papers,” his wife would have been granted the same status. She apparently waited until 1969 to become a naturalized citizen, five years after her husband’s death.

And in any event, their children were born in Indiana, making all of them natural born citizens.

Basically, there is no story here. Rage Furby is using this fear-mongering to drive traffic to his woeful blog, and to grift money from idiots using WeSearchr. Under the terms of WeSearchr’s payment scheme, WeSearchr (Chuck and Pax) gets 15% of whatever a campaign pulls in. So, they could potentially make $1,500 from this bounty, if enough idiots contribute to it.

98
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:47:49pm

Oh fuck yeah. Rick Scott is on the motherfucking short list.

99
FormerDirtDart  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:48:07pm

Side note: I’ve read the book Black Sunday , it wasn’t about terrorists, it was about a lone nut with a bunch of guns, Think Charles Whitman at the Super Bowl

100
TK-421  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:48:08pm
101
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:52:07pm

re: #97 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

From Dr. Matt downstairs, I see Rage Furby has posted a “bounty” in WeSearchr to see if Judge Curiel’s parents were undocumented immigrants. Anyone who spends money ($410 of $10,000 raised so far) would be wasting their money. Here’s why.

Immigration back when the elder Curiels were alive was very different from today. If someone entered the USA for work, as Salvador Curiel did, they could formally request to stay as permanent residents. This was called “having first papers,” meaning they intended to become naturalized citizens in the future. AFAIK, there were no time restrictions on when they could happen.

Secondly, Rage Furby himself has found (using familysearch.org, it seems) records of several border crossings by Salvador and then later Salvador and Francisca after their marriage in Mexico. These would be legal border crossings, being recorded and all, and I would presume border control agents would have checked to be sure everything was on the up-and-up. IOW, they were likely not undocumented aliens.

Next, the senior Curiel began as a farm worker and laborer, but eventually got work in a steel mill in Indiana. He would have had a Social Security number (and probably union membership). They owned a home, too, and were hardly living in fear of being deported. (Again, attitudes about “illegal immigrants” were different back then. The RW was more worried about Commies than Mexicans.]

Immigration laws then gave spouses of legal residents residency as well. So, if Salvador had “first papers,” his wife would have been granted the same status. She apparently waited until 1969 to become a naturalized citizen, five years after her husband’s death.

And in any event, their children were born in Indiana, making all of them natural born citizens.

Basically, there is no story here. Rage Furby is using this fear-mongering to drive traffic to his woeful blog, and to grift money from idiots using WeSearchr. Under the terms of WeSearchr’s payment scheme, WeSearchr (Chuck and Pax) gets 15% of whatever a campaign pulls in. So, they could potentially make $1,500 from this bounty, if enough idiots contribute to it.

You know another thing is that this whole concept of illegal versus legal immigrant is pretty new. It’s all because he’s Mexican-American. If his name were Greg Curry and he was from the Indianapolis suburbs, Rage Furby wouldn’t give a shit. The way Judge Curiel’s family is being dragged through the mud for the sin of being Mexican-American and judging a case involving Trump is let me be blunt here Nazi. It’s something that the Nazis would have done to a Jewish judge. And shame on all the Republicans that have continued to support Trump and especially the ones that make excuses for him.

102
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:53:36pm

re: #100 TK-421

[Embedded content]

That explains his austere lifestyle. //

103
FormerDirtDart  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:54:30pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Side note: I’ve read the book Black Sunday , it wasn’t about terrorists, it was about a lone nut with a bunch of guns, Think Charles Whitman at the Super Bowl

And, if I remember correctly, they shot the movie originally in line with the book. Then added the whole “terrorists with exploding Goodyear blimp filled with deadly darts” post production.

104
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:54:38pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Side note: I’ve read the book Black Sunday , it wasn’t about terrorists, it was about a lone nut with a bunch of guns, Think Charles Whitman at the Super Bowl

I like Newt acting like he’s not an elite. Motherfucker, you were once third in line to the presidency. You are an elite and so is your pal Trump. You’re just too ignorant to be an elite that has power over executive decisions.

105
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:55:16pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

Oh fuck yeah. Rick Scott is on the motherfucking short list.

[Embedded content]

Scott, Christie, LePage, I wouldn’t be shocked if the VP is one of those.

106
darthstar  Jun 8, 2016 • 9:58:17pm
107
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:00:36pm
108
FormerDirtDart  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:01:58pm

re: #106 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Heh, as I scrolled and saw the image, before seeing the text, I thought “that’s a damn Wile E. Coyote boulder there…”

109
Teukka  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:02:59pm

re: #106 darthstar

[Embedded content]

ROFLcopter

110
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:03:11pm

re: #106 darthstar

I’m still laughing. And that sound from Looney Tunes of a boulder slamming on the road will play in my head for hours yet.

111
gwangung  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:04:04pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Many Sanders supporters believed his push to regulate Wall Street and solve economic inequality would resonate with minority voters. It didn’t because minority voters know that liberal policies alone won’t reverse decades of racial inequalities. They have been loyal members of liberal unions where white Democrats received plush jobs, even if they were no more qualified than their black colleagues. They’ve seen the same thing in liberal Hollywood and the supposedly liberal world of the media, whose top ranks remain mostly white

Read more: politico.com
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Yeah, that Politico article has a lot of good stuff in it. But I think it reiterates a lot of the same points a very good Kos diary made about the appeal of Clinton to black voters that was written back in February. Not much has changed, though I think the internal viewpoints of minority communities as a whole needs to be emphasized more—-there’s been some improvement in the black community which they KNOW they’ll get from a Clinton as they knew they got from the Obama community. I just don’t think a lot of Sanders supporters appreciate that that black voters, particularly older ones, have long memories of white politicians promising the moon and then turning around giving it all to the white constituents. The Clintons “duped” the black community by actually delivering solid economic gains for a larger segment of the black community than lost out through welfare reform. That’s more than they got from other politicians.

112
Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:05:51pm

re: #90 TK-421

Beloit billionaire posts string of zeros on state returns

Amazing. They are the fucking scum taking FREE STUFF

113
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:07:22pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Once someone entered the USA through normal border channels, they were given an immigration number and from then on were presumed to have entered legally. If they applied for “first papers,” it was equivalent to permanent residency. I’m assuming my mom’s parents had those. So, they could apply for Social Security, but of course could not vote.

There was not this frenzy we seem to have now about “illegal immigrants.” There were quotas in effect for certain groups (Chinese, for example), but there were no quotas, AFAIK, for Mexicans. And it seems relatively easy to enter the States, if you could state you were entering for work and had a contact already living in the USA.

Chuck is either stupid or is deliberately ignoring the implications of documentation of the Curiels’ lawful border crossings. If their names were on a border entry slip, they would be presumed to be legal visitors/residents/citizens.

114
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:09:15pm

re: #111 gwangung

Yeah, that Politico article has a lot of good stuff in it. But I think it reiterates a lot of the same points a very good Kos diary made about the appeal of Clinton to black voters that was written back in February. Not much has changed, though I think the internal viewpoints of minority communities as a whole needs to be emphasized more—-there’s been some improvement in the black community which they KNOW they’ll get from a Clinton as they knew they got from the Obama community. I just don’t think a lot of Sanders supporters appreciate that that black voters, particularly older ones, have long memories of white politicians promising the moon and then turning around giving it all to the white constituents. The Clintons “duped” the black community by actually delivering solid economic gains for a larger segment of the black community than lost out through welfare reform. That’s more than they got from other politicians.

Bigger audience with this but yes very true points about how older African-American voters especially have long memories. I really think Clinton came off to me anyhow more genuinely interested in their concerns. I don’t think Bernie is a bigot but I also think he doesn’t see that not everything is in economic terms. I brought up the example of the wealthy black tennis player being hasseled by police, income inequality can’t explain that nor it can how the African-Americans I know here in wealthy NoVa are much more likely to encounter harassment by police than white people like myself. Clinton had great surrogates too. A man like John Lewis is going to get a lot more people listening than Cornel West for example.

115
BeachDem  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:11:32pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Bailey’s article is really well written and I think it really gets at things I’ve observed over the past near eight years with a lot of progressives regarding Obama. It also seems that Bernie lost big among African-American voters 18-29. That’s something that I honestly wasn’t aware of and I imagine Clinton beat him with Hispanics and Asians among the same group though perhaps by not as big margins.

Isaac is a good writer (and a nice guy.) Occasionally goes off the rails a bit, but is usually really perceptive. Has a really interesting family story.
myrtlebeachonline.com

And his wife is also a dynamo.
freedomreaders.org

116
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:12:33pm

This is worse than a rabbit hole. It’s almost like reading Mein Kampf.

117
majii  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:12:45pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

“A man like John Lewis is going to get a lot more people listening than Cornel West for example.”

I’d say this is correct because we know that John Lewis paid his dues fighting for the civil rights of all Americans, and it almost cost him his life while Cornel West is a whole lot of talk but not much action. I hope he starts some sh*t at the Democratic National Convention and gets smacked down by Barney Frank. It would be a sight to behold.

118
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:12:52pm

re: #113 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Exactly. Once someone entered the USA through normal border channels, they were given an immigration number and from then on were presumed to have entered legally. If they applied for “first papers,” it was equivalent to permanent residency. I’m assuming my mom’s parents had those. So, they could apply for Social Security, but of course could not vote.

There was not this frenzy we seem to have now about “illegal immigrants.” There were quotas in effect for certain groups (Chinese, for example), but there were no quotas, AFAIK, for Mexicans. And it seems relatively easy to enter the States, if you could state you were entering for work and had a contact already living in the USA.

Chuck is either stupid or is deliberately ignoring the implications of documentation of the Curiels’ lawful border crossings. If their names were on a border entry slip, they would be presumed to be legal visitors/residents/citizens.

Right. My second great grandfather got naturalized pretty quickly after arriving. Six years I believe. And you’re right about the quotas. Who knows if the quotas on Eastern European immigrants had been signed just five years earlier, I may not be here right now as my last immigrant ancestor, my Slovakian born great grandmother came in 1921. It really is disgraceful that all this is going on. It’s not only morally wrong but the attacks on Judge Curiel’s character are awful too. Someone should ask Trump dead right that if Hispanic-Americans love him so much, why is he so afraid of a Mexican-American being the judge in his case.

119
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:15:02pm

MOTHERFUCK! I tap the button again and I get this:

I grew up and currently live about 35 miles away from Aspen, as the bird flies. By road I’m 65 miles away.

120
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:15:36pm

Mediocre tweets from a mediocre twit.

121
Dave In Austin  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:17:20pm

Bristol Palin got married to her baby daddy MOH winner Dakota Meyer.

Now she’s Bristol Meyer…….!??!

122
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:17:33pm

re: #115 BeachDem

Isaac is a good writer (and a nice guy.) Occasionally goes off the rails a bit, but is usually really perceptive. Has a really interesting family story.
myrtlebeachonline.com

And his wife is also a dynamo.
freedomreaders.org

Quite a couple and man that article about his brother. I can’t imagine. I think so many white progressives especially younger ones and I’m talking about my generation (hey Pete Townsend) and demo here but I think while we were excited about Obama, our high expectations led us to so much disappointment. I don’t think many of these white progressive Berners are racist or bigoted people but I do think they do suffer from privilege. And that’s the privilege of being able to get disillusioned more easily. Whereas African-American voters see the party has become a party that has fully embraced Civil Rights for African-Americans in the past 40 some odd years, a lot of white progressives bemoan the party’s move away from more leftist style economics.

123
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:20:27pm

re: #117 majii

“A man like John Lewis is going to get a lot more people listening than Cornel West for example.”

I’d say this is correct because we know that John Lewis paid his dues fighting for the civil rights of all Americans, and it almost cost him his life while Cornel West is a whole lot of talk but not much action. I hope he starts some sh*t at the Democratic National Convention and gets smacked down by Barney Frank. It would be a sight to behold.

He really did. John Lewis and a lot of the other older progressives that have backed Clinton are men and women who are staunchly liberal but they’re willing to take the victories they can get. I’m different from many my age that I have that bent rather than the idealistic one. Take ACA for example, I do wish it was more extensive but I am also glad that because of ACA that pre-existing conditions can no longer be used to deny people.

124
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:21:10pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Right. My second great grandfather got naturalized pretty quickly after arriving. Six years I believe. And you’re right about the quotas. Who knows if the quotas on Eastern European immigrants had been signed just five years earlier, I may not be here right now as my last immigrant ancestor, my Slovakian born great grandmother came in 1921. It really is disgraceful that all this is going on. It’s not only morally wrong but the attacks on Judge Curiel’s character are awful too. Someone should ask Trump dead right that if Hispanic-Americans love him so much, why is he so afraid of a Mexican-American being the judge in his case.

It’s a nontroversy, like voter fraud and transgender predators in school restrooms. There is no substance to Rage Furby’s accusations at all. Remember, he’s convinced Obama is gay and that his real father was not a Kenyan named Obama. Now he’ got it firmly lodged in his pea-brain that Judge Curiel is an “anchor baby,” so he’s looking for evidence to support that claim, while ignoring all evidence that disproves it.

125
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:21:26pm

The privilege of easy disillusionment. I like that. Not too toot my horn too loud but I think that phrase describes this situation pretty well.

126
William Lewis  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:22:07pm

re: #121 Dave In Austin

Bristol Palin got married to her baby daddy MOH winner Dakota Meyer.

Now she’s Bristol Meyer…….!??!

He has my sincere pity.

Has the pool started for the divorce date yet? I’ll take six months…

127
BeachDem  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:23:35pm

re: #117 majii

“A man like John Lewis is going to get a lot more people listening than Cornel West for example.”

I’d say this is correct because we know that John Lewis paid his dues fighting for the civil rights of all Americans, and it almost cost him his life while Cornel West is a whole lot of talk but not much action. I hope he starts some sh*t at the Democratic National Convention and gets smacked down by Barney Frank. It would be a sight to behold.

Or Elijah Cummings—I’d REALLY like to see him slap down “Brother Cornel.” (And Cummings is chair of the platform committee and he doesn’t take shit from anyone!)

128
MsJ  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:23:45pm

re: #126 William Lewis

He has my sincere pity.

Has the pool started for the divorce date yet? I’ll take six months…

I’ll go nine. About two months after Squibb or Trash Palin is born.

129
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:24:07pm

re: #124 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s a nontroversy, like voter fraud and transgender predators in school restrooms. There is no substance to Rage Furby’s accusations at all. Remember, he’s convinced Obama is gay and that his real father was not a Kenyan named Obama. Now he’ got it firmly lodged in his pea-brain that Judge Curiel is an “anchor baby,” so he’s looking for evidence to support that claim, while ignoring all evidence that disproves it.

Yep. He just convinces himself that something is true because he believe in. Nasty little worm. I really hate the term “anchor baby”. I really do. Children of immigrants like Judge Curiel end up being very loyal Americans. I’ve talked about my great aunts and uncles before on my mother’s side. All of them did their part in WWII. And it continues today. There were immigrant first respondents at Ground Zero. The first American serviceman to die in Iraq was in fact a man who was an illegal immigrant. My sister in law’s sister recently got her MA from a very prestigious university.

130
Dave In Austin  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:25:28pm

re: #128 MsJ

I’ll go nine. About two months after Squibb or Trash Palin is born.

My money is on the obvious “Oscar”.

131
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:31:27pm

West seems to be one of those “media scholars”, i.e. guys who are only thought of as scholars or scientists because of their ever-present media image. He doesn’t seem to have authored any serious work in philosophy lately.

Here’s a good expose of his mediocrity:

newrepublic.com

In the academia the rule is “publish or perish”. Apparently you can neither publish, nor perish, just appear on TV enough.

132
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:34:56pm

Jumping Fucking Shitballs I cannot click that RandoTrumpTweet button anymore.

Bottom Line: Trump started running for President *on Twitter* after Obama roasted him at the White House Correspondence Dinner. The guy is insecure as all hell.

133
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:38:37pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Yep. He just convinces himself that something is true because he believe in. Nasty little worm. I really hate the term “anchor baby”. I really do. Children of immigrants like Judge Curiel end up being very loyal Americans. I’ve talked about my great aunts and uncles before on my mother’s side. All of them did their part in WWII. And it continues today. There were immigrant first respondents at Ground Zero. The first American serviceman to die in Iraq was in fact a man who was an illegal immigrant. My sister in law’s sister recently got her MA from a very prestigious university.

In a very real sense, any first generation American was an “anchor baby,” if their parents were immigrants. The convoluted process of getting a green card and your citizenship did not exist prior to 1965. You came in, then some time later in court stated your intention to become a citizen (first papers). After 3-5 years residency, you applied for citizenship (second papers) and finally got your naturalization certificate. Compared to today’s over complicated system, it was a breeze (if you were not Asian or a black African).

archives.gov

134
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:40:17pm

re: #133 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In a very real sense, any first generation American was an “anchor baby,” if their parents were immigrants. The convoluted process of getting a green card and your citizenship did not exist prior to 1965. You came in, then some time later in court stated your intention to become a citizen (first papers). After 3-5 years residency, you applied for citizenship (second papers) and finally got your naturalization certificate. Compared to today’s over complicated system, it was a breeze (if you were not Asian or a black African).

Yeah my family naturalized pretty quickly. Honestly, people who like to yammer about how their grandparents did this and that have no idea how much easier it was for them to be naturalized.

135
William Lewis  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:42:57pm

re: #131 Nyet

Interesting essay. I especially liked the bits on his essentially conservative response to nihilism and his dalliance with celebrity. Thanks for the link.

136
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:44:24pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

Yeah my family naturalized pretty quickly. Honestly, people who like to yammer about how their grandparents did this and that have no idea how much easier it was for them to be naturalized.

My mom’s dad entered the USA in 1896, and was naturalized by the 1940 census, if not earlier. Her mom died young, and probably never got her citizenship.

America’s borders were very porous until very recently. It doesn’t seem to have hurt us none.

137
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:46:21pm

re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My mom’s dad entered the USA in 1896, and was naturalized by the 1940 census, if not earlier. Her mom died young, and probably never got her citizenship.

America’s borders were very porous until very recently. It doesn’t seem to have hurt us none.

I really think it’s because where the immigrants are coming from has changed. And conservatives scoff at the idea of white privilege.

138
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:49:04pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

I really think it’s because where the immigrants are coming from has changed. And conservatives scoff at the idea of white privilege.

Yeah, somehow we only got into an immigration crisis once some people noticed we were letting in Muslims and black people, and teh Messicans.

139
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:49:23pm

Pathetic little man who has yet to say anything bad about the Russian dictator.

140
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:51:02pm

re: #138 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah, somehow we only got into an immigration crisis once some people noticed we were letting in Muslims and black people, and teh Messicans.

It’s similar with many government programs too. That’s part of why the New Deal Coalition collapsed. I mean I’ve caught my own father who is fairly progressive minded being upset about immigrants not speaking English but I have to remind him that I have a copy of his second great grandmother’s obituary where she’s described as being in the US for 50 some years and only being a Gaelic speaker.

141
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:51:31pm

re: #139 Nyet

Pathetic little man who has yet to say anything bad about the Russian dictator.

[Embedded content]

Yep.

142
FormerDirtDart  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:54:36pm

True Patriot…

143
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 10:57:58pm

Another pathetic manbaby has retweeted this:

Guess his name?

144
gwangung  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:00:41pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

He really did. John Lewis and a lot of the other older progressives that have backed Clinton are men and women who are staunchly liberal but they’re willing to take the victories they can get. I’m different from many my age that I have that bent rather than the idealistic one. Take ACA for example, I do wish it was more extensive but I am also glad that because of ACA that pre-existing conditions can no longer be used to deny people.

Which made it especially offensive (and I think that’s too weak of a term) when some progressives called Lewis corrupt, particularly for taking money from corporations.

Basically, they were calling for unilateral disarmament on the behalf of blacks in a system that’s hostile to them.

145
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:00:53pm

Found on my FB feed just now:

smdh

146
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:00:53pm

re: #143 Nyet

Another pathetic manbaby has retweeted this:

[Embedded content]

Guess his name?

I’d guess Shaun or H.A since Cenk actually to his credit was saying that attention needed to be focused on beating Trump now.

147
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:02:10pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

King of course. But it was an easy question.

148
gwangung  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:02:15pm

Ack messed this up…

re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

America’s borders were very porous until very recently.

Not for Asians before 1964.

149
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:02:30pm

re: #145 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Found on my FB feed just now:

Embedded Image

smdh

Because Obama’s daughter is the only person graduating from that high school.

150
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:02:41pm

re: #147 Nyet

King of course. But it was an easy question.

It was, yes.

151
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:04:00pm

re: #148 gwangung

Well, not for Asian folks before 1964.

True that. You want to hear something messed up I read about the history of the KKK? The KKK apparently had a good amount of Swedish and other non-Catholic immigrants in their ranks too. Same thing with the know-nothings actually too.

152
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:04:52pm

re: #144 gwangung

Which made it especially offensive (and I think that’s too weak of a term) when some progressives called Lewis corrupt, particularly for taking money from corporations.

Basically, they were calling for unilateral disarmament on the behalf of blacks in a system that’s hostile to them.

It really is messed up.

153
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:05:34pm

re: #148 gwangung

Ack messed this up…

Not for Asians before 1964.

Yes, I know

154
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:07:30pm

>_<

155
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:08:18pm

re: #154 Nyet

>_<

[Embedded content]

These people are idiots.

156
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:09:39pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

I don’t even consider them to be idiots “on our side” anymore. It’s some other, far side…

157
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:10:53pm

re: #156 Nyet

I don’t even consider them to be idiots “on our side” anymore. It’s some other, far side…

Would I be guilty of hyperbole if I said they were on our side like Mao and Stalin were? I won’t go no true lefty but these people definitely don’t live in mainstream liberal thought.

158
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:11:02pm

The leftists from Yuggoth and some such stuff.

159
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:11:46pm

What’s Yuggoth?

160
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:12:00pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Would I be guilty of hyperbole if I said they were on our side like Mao and Stalin were? I won’t go no true lefty but these people definitely don’t live in mainstream liberal thought.

Oh, they’re lefties alright. Liberals though?

Then again, they probably hate the “liberal” label anyway.

161
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:12:45pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

A Lovecraft reference.

en.wikipedia.org

162
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:13:14pm

re: #160 Nyet

Or, they’re lefties alright. Liberals though?

Then again, they probably hate the “liberal” label anyway.

Yeah I should have said left wing thought.

163
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:14:28pm

re: #161 Nyet

A Lovecraft reference.

en.wikipedia.org

Ah okay. I remember these types from the 2004 election. Kerry wasn’t left wing enough for them either and they insisted like many on the right do that the Democrats lost because they weren’t left enough. My friends and I at the time coined the term Lefty Freepers for them.

164
majii  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:14:30pm

re: #142 FormerDirtDart
I think this guy was also one of J.T. Ready’s buddies. In 2012, Ready killed his girlfriend, her daughter and granddaughter, the daughter’s fiance, and himself. He did this even though he identified himself as a member of the “master race.” I was very happy to hear that Chris Simcox was convicted for molesting a child because I remember him strutting around a few years back, dressed in camo, organizing a militia, pretending to be an official border patrol agent, running off at the mouth, and hanging out with the likes of Joe Arpaio. At the time, he was pretending that he was all law and order. Little did I know at the time that he was an adult molesting little kids. He has an adult daughter who now lives in California, and according to Phoenix New Times, she told prosecutors that he had molested her when she was a child, and that she wanted to testify in his trial. Something about him that outraged me was that his request was granted to question the girls on the witness stand that he had allegedly molested. An article I read today stated that he had an attorney who “guided” his questioning of the girls. Those girls must have been terrified being questioned by the guy they say molested them. I hope he’s given the longest sentence available for the crime.

165
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:15:51pm

re: #143 Nyet

Another pathetic manbaby has retweeted this:

[Embedded content]

Guess his name?

Rhymes with ALABASTER!

166
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:18:27pm

re: #165 teleskiguy

aM i DOING THIS RIGHT?

167
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:21:15pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

I didn’t get the reference, sorry :)

168
goddamnedfrank  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:24:17pm
169
majii  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:24:52pm

re: #154 Nyet

I’ve not heard one bit of outrage from the berners or the right about Paula Broadwell having @ 300 pieces of classified records on her home computer. Not one word, but they’re stuck on HRC using a private email account while being SoS. I think Broadwell having classified info on her home computer is more serious than HRC having a private email account while she was working at the State Dept. Broadwell had a security clearance that gave her some access to classified info and she was prohibited from taking it off of the premises where it was located, but she did it anyway.

170
teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:27:30pm

re: #167 Nyet

I didn’t get the reference, sorry :)

171
Dave In Austin  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:35:35pm

re: #158 Nyet

The leftists from Yuggoth and some such stuff.

They are all disaffected Paulian Libertarins.

172
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:38:07pm

re: #171 Dave In Austin

They are all disaffected Paulian Libertarins.

Maybe a minority of them.
The core seem to have always been hardcore far-left.

173
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:43:18pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Many Sanders supporters believed his push to regulate Wall Street and solve economic inequality would resonate with minority voters. It didn’t because minority voters know that liberal policies alone won’t reverse decades of racial inequalities. They have been loyal members of liberal unions where white Democrats received plush jobs, even if they were no more qualified than their black colleagues. They’ve seen the same thing in liberal Hollywood and the supposedly liberal world of the media, whose top ranks remain mostly white

Read more: politico.com
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

That’s an excellent article, but man! You’ll want to stay out of the comments.

174
Dave In Austin  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:45:26pm

Regardless, the writing is on the wall. They can get with the program or go vote for the GP. HRC is going to win this thing. Trump won’t be able to keep it together till Nov

175
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:51:06pm

They’re using Palin’s vocabulary.

176
Nyet  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:52:58pm

Bus, this is Liz. Liz, this is Bus.

177
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:54:52pm

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

All because she supports him. Not real principle.

178
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:55:18pm

re: #176 Nyet

Bus, this is Liz. Liz, this is Bus.

[Embedded content]

Knew that would happen. Warren doesn’t deserve that shit.

179
HappyWarrior  Jun 8, 2016 • 11:58:30pm

Gabbard as a Hawaii legislator had a very anti gay record too. Now to her credit, she’s come around but it’s laughable for Bernie to think she should be party chair. I’m no DWS fan but she’s better than Gabbard who Bernie only wants because she supports him over Clinton.

180
goddamnedfrank  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:04:15am
181
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:06:42am

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

WTF

182
teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:12:51am

re: #175 Nyet

They’re using Palin’s vocabulary.

Sarah’s. Not Michael’s.

For fuck’s sake.

183
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:14:01am

I do get a kick of this idea that because FDR won a brokered convention so can Bernie. For one, Bernie is no FDR, for two his advisers aren’t FDR’s Brain Trust, for three primaries weren’t a big deal in those days and candidates were often nominated after several ballots, for four so the DNC that party apparatus they hate is going to just hand the nomination to Bernie after Clinton won fair and square? There’s a lot of I think contempt for the democratic process among these people. Bernie lost. Be disappointed but do not subvert the will of the voters because you’re a sore loser.

184
goddamnedfrank  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:15:55am
185
teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:20:08am

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

e0UoVAp3T05P5Tzva1m7sx1LBfn4qd5nJIsx2Vel9KQo99n/yrTBS5C7UUbiWwKnEzePJmd4hgpE+XPe8i8IGZim75Fnjxqe9WCnLEbZ/UgiiF+OyADIfs1PIEQ4WyO8/4g6UlymmJA11S8d7BQAfnu/JSbnwBFRoyy6d1Ohj5Q3nEHG7wExzFU3gdGjt+F/9ZSQrMNF+VnE/+y+uC3haRK9yvuE1T5KtgfJuYQk4w1v9rVbmRmRjB2r13+tKkhOOnDs6UaH34j0WTlGFkRHWufs+vFkh8mUPwfBx87XDuaRInPkJKPVPQ==

186
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:21:17am

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

That’s boring establishment stuff man. Real revolutionaries use slogans. It’s so sad and arrogant that they think they speak for the people even though the people spoke and chose Clinton.

187
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:26:44am

One last thing before I crash but the BBs of FDR’s day hated FDR for not destroying capitalism and putting socialism in its place. FDR like so many successful liberals was idealistic but also a pragmatist too. You need both to be a successful liberal whether you’re in politics or not.

188
teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:38:54am

PLAGUED BY SCANDALS!

189
Dave In Austin  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:41:02am

Plagued by sandals. Those are hard shoes to fill.

190
Dave In Austin  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:42:05am

And night shift sucks…..

191
Sherlock Hound  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:44:02am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Brass tacks: If you really get into their heads, in their hearts, people like these don’t truly believe in democracy. They really don’t. They’ll tell you about “the masses” and how they need to be “led”.

For several years, we’ve been hearing about demographics and our increasing majority-minority characteristics. We say, rightly, that the demographics are a firewall against the GOP.

But Berniebros, who are in my age range (50’s) seem to think that the white males will still be in charge, even as there is no good reason to give them preferences in other fields of work.

Hillary was inevitable, and so is her coalition.
So it doesn’t include white males.

Too damned bad. This white male isn’t too broken up over it.

192
goddamnedfrank  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:44:19am

oh.my.god! The Bernie “Sand Wars” thing is even worse than I could’ve possibly imagined. So far I’ve just gotten through the beginning of Episode 1 where this line of dialog occurs in Donald (Jabba) the Trump’s lair: “Don’t worry Slave Elizabeth Warren, I’ve come to get you out of here.”

It gets SO much worse from there. Apparently Warren likes being chained up in a sexy outfit.

WARNING: YOU CAN’T UNSEE THIS.

Bernie Sand Wars: Episode I - RETURN OF THE BERNIE

193
teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:52:43am

OF COURSE. The information is sent through only the best possible avenues, believe me. The best people get the best information in the quickest way. It’s amazing, really.

194
teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:59:06am

AAAARRRGH!!!

The Donald™ is absolutely right in this here tweet!

195
teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2016 • 1:03:05am

I’m done with the TrumpTweetMachine for now, I think.

It’s funny. But more than anything it’s FUCKING SCARY!

196
goddamnedfrank  Jun 9, 2016 • 1:08:07am

re: #185 teleskiguy

RYTFaMxjnvbuK4xfguJ36LH39b7dUSdW2o9zwSVg+zdhPSwry29UP6nZUWGhgs0kKixLazGUCziN+hUjEdfEpvIVVhVZf4hsBWRBBrUYI90Ht/saJx3Kmao1Pz6X6LfFkCot6n4VnjKGFKxKsUs5ITjCzDwja42EBXb2FijSkSY3OhvLxzl0dKWj3SdsYy4+Yb7CHxmAZ6gkUNYcVM4iqJS/pOhwZODohgVDpcfVluLuyyJxlkFshScg5NA993ZtSPDs6mhh17i0rz/H+gCKa6wcv4KXURhgI6rMvu8hJgrcBwYjwMR2mJDcrsdQUa1DXWahmO8OmsHQ6zZQVPfv4KR5FHhS1vKT2vL7nAiuKffmOHEDSac9ndByE2ZwAb2YJZ652y6VN+wZSVdX8poR7W7nxn5MffCEutHoYQyAYAYQjqOp7cO8l26tffjWxq42eWrTleIIcSTu+jby707V8Q==

197
goddamnedfrank  Jun 9, 2016 • 1:11:07am

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

vHZQoZw2j9sxI8dWKlBJQ0ustSG5eHNBWE6Di9K8Tpl6KK7gk5qK0aNL2U50OlEQtBXivfZJ1TcsPgF0OR9z90CljxthLD94o3WWaFnhtIZegHh3KKCxmXQk6kQ5K/i+QRy1v/FDe0Dt4bHytaoBiruHre9sGrOzTUBeaC7aqgqKAMi+J6qUTgs6BR9Czla/g/aV0KxbcSLyNvEWM3jZd5+ATavlhDFBHrwbQJirRto=

198
goddamnedfrank  Jun 9, 2016 • 1:18:54am
199
Eventual Carrion  Jun 9, 2016 • 1:27:56am

re: #48 KGxvi

[Embedded content]

SCREWING CREDITORS WHO ENTERED INTO CONTRACTA IN GOOD FAITH IS JUST GOOD BUSINESS

But the little people need Tort reform to keep them from being able to do such things.

200
Ming5000  Jun 9, 2016 • 1:54:51am

re: #88 MsJ

The GOP is going to dump Trump at the convention. He’s not on their website… He’s gone. Mark my words.

It is amazing to click on gop. com. It is true, no Trump. If you search Trump you get mostly HRC hits.

Although, I clicked on democrats. org and there is no HRC or Sanders to speak of. The site is so blah. It has that feel of a trap because so much of the site is focused on making you donate, or buy stuff, or give an email address. Dang.

201
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 2:02:02am

Bernie is going there.

berniesanders.com

SANTA MONICA, Calif. - To chants of “Bernie or Bust,” U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders told a roaring crowd

202
Ming5000  Jun 9, 2016 • 2:12:38am

re: #201 Nyet
Hubris is never pretty.

203
Alyosha  Jun 9, 2016 • 2:45:27am
204
Alyosha  Jun 9, 2016 • 2:55:19am

re: #202 Ming5000

One of the reasons I always walk away from even the most satisfying political discussion in the real world (because, no doubt, I’ve held forth on some matter passionately) with an acute sensation of embarrassment, even shame, is because I always examine what I had said later and agonised over whether I might be wrong.

I tell myself that it’s a good feeling to have, for obvious reasons. It’s hard to explain to others, though.
Ironically, a lack of confidence after the fact tends to undermine one’s argument.
Ignorance has a built-in advantage.

205
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 3:40:28am

So, the Rage Furby has concluded that Judge Curiel’s dad was not a US citizen, because his death certificate says he was a citizen of Mexico at the time of his death. The New York Times reported otherwise, so naturally Rage Furby is spinning all kinds of CTs about Carlos Slim and the NYT trying to obfuscate the Truth, etc. etc.

But notice he is not saying the elder Curiel was an illegal immigrant now. I think he’s moved the goalposts.

As I mentioned above, the elder Curiels were probably living here under their “first papers” (intention to become a citizen) and likely they had no special incentive to become naturalized citizens and went about their lives as permanent residents. Additionally, there’s also the possibility that the death record is in error, and Salvador was a US citizen at the time of his death. Anyone who has done genealogical research knows how clerical errors creep into official records, waiting to confound future generations.

Anyway, Rage Furby has presumably established what he believes to be the Truth, and now will repeat his conclusions on circumstantial evidence forever more.

And get a load of the email he says he sent the NYT reporter:

Hi Alan,
You wrote that Judge Curiel’s father died as a U.S. citizen.
In fact, the death records for Salvador Curiel from the Indiana records.
How did this happen? Did you not check it?

Protip: When sending an important email to busy people, make sure the email makes sense.

206
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 3:42:23am

re: #205 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Anyway, Rage Furby has presumably established what he believes to be the Truth, and now will repeat his conclusions on circumstantial evidence forever more.

The point is that Curiel, like any child of immigrants, is not a true and trustworthy AMERICAN!!!

/

207
Archangelus  Jun 9, 2016 • 3:42:40am
208
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 3:48:33am

And as we predicted, Rage Furby is taking credit for Renee Elmers’ defeat in NC.

FLAWLESS VICTORY: GotNews. com REPORTING DEFEATED RENEE ELLMERS!!!! #iVoted

Most reputable accounts say Ellmers lost because she wasn’t anti-abortion enough, and lost to someone even more right wing than she is. Chuck says he proved Ellmers and Kevin McCarthy were having an affair, but no reputable news outlet has reported it.

He’s full of it.

209
Archangelus  Jun 9, 2016 • 3:54:46am

Another “friends with the Clintons” Trump tweet his followers probably wouldn’t like…

210
Timothy Watson  Jun 9, 2016 • 3:56:01am
211
Timothy Watson  Jun 9, 2016 • 3:59:03am
212
451_Montag  Jun 9, 2016 • 4:15:28am
213
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 4:18:02am

Found this gem, thanks Charles!

214
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 4:26:29am

LOL

215
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 4:29:01am

DIPLOMACY!!! FOREIGN POLICY!!!!

216
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 4:29:42am

Sorry to spam, this thing is great. We should create a best-of page.

217
Timothy Watson  Jun 9, 2016 • 4:36:49am

re: #215 Franklin

DIPLOMACY!!! FOREIGN POLICY!!!!

[Embedded content]

STAND UP TO CHYNA BY SCREWING OVER OUR ALLIES!1!!

218
Dave In Austin  Jun 9, 2016 • 4:42:39am

re: #216 Franklin

Just make sure you put them back into
Circulation…..

219
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 4:54:43am

re: #216 Franklin

applied to Occidental as a foreign student—think about it!

“Applied as a foreign student” makes zero sense. This statement doesn’t exist in real life. I matriculated at three different universities and taught at two more. The phrase “applied as a foreign student” does not exist. Attendance rolls, transcripts, or student ids do not differentiate between foreign students and native-born students. The entire premise is so ridiculous and only proves that the rwnjs spreading the nonsense never set foot on a college campus.

220
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 4:56:13am
221
(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:05:06am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

“Applied as a foreign student” makes zero sense. This statement doesn’t exist in real life. I matriculated at three different universities and taught at two more. The phrase “applied as a foreign student” does not exist. Attendance rolls, transcripts, or student ids do not differentiate between foreign students and native-born students. The entire premise is so ridiculous and only proves that the rwnjs spreading the nonsense never set foot on a college campus.

From an admission point of view, it’s idiotic to apply as a foreign student if you don’t have to. You’re vetted more closely, registration fees tend to be higher, and some aids are limited to local students. And, as you mention, you don’t get an asterisk indicating you applied as a foreign student.

222
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:07:00am

re: #221 (((The Engineer Lobuno)))

From an admission point of view, it’s idiotic to apply as a foreign student if you don’t have to. You’re vetted more closely, registration fees tend to be higher, and some aids are limited to local students. And, as you mention, you don’t get an asterisk indicating you applied as a foreign student.

That’s not the point: OBAMA IS A FOREIGNER. It is a matter of RWNJ faith that we owe him no allegiance as he is a usurper.

223
Alephnaught  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:11:16am

re: #78 KGxvi

Diplomacy skills achievement unlocked:

”.@AlexSalmond of Scotland may be the dumbest leader of the free world. I can’t imagine that anyone wants him in office.”

Well, apart from the voters of Scotland, presumably. He still remains the only First Minister to fight an election and get an overall majority of seats in Scotland’s proportional representation electoral system, which is deliberately weighted against majorities, and towards coalition politics.

224
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:12:58am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That’s not the point: OBAMA IS A FOREIGNER. It is a matter of RWNJ faith that we owe him no allegiance as he is a usurper.

A usurper who was elected to the office twice, and whose term ends in several more months. What a lame tyrant! Sad!

225
Alephnaught  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:13:29am

re: #216 Franklin

He seems to do this a lot in 2012.

226
(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:13:40am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That’s not the point: OBAMA IS A FOREIGNER. It is a matter of RWNJ faith that we owe him no allegiance as he is a usurper.

Ah, right. The articule of faith which Obama made a joke about his birth video, and had to explain the joke to Fox News.

Oh well, back to square one. :P

227
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:20:28am

re: #225 Alephnaught

He seems to do this a lot in 2012.

[Embedded content]

Just like the Rage Furby, Trump has an “inside guy”.

228
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:21:41am

re: #226 (((The Engineer Lobuno)))

Ah, right. The articule of faith which Obama made a joke about his birth video, and had to explain the joke to Fox News.

Oh well, back to square one. :P

In researching my Chuck Johnson stories, I visited Free Republic, where some idiots take it as an article of faith that birthright citizenship does not exist. IOW, a child of a foreign-born parent or parents cannot be a US citizen, because reasons.

OTOH, some of the freepers were noting that Johnson has proved absolutely nothing about Judge Curiel’s parents’ citizenship status, as naturalization records are haphazard, rarely are centralized, and are seldom online.

229
Patricia Kayden  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:24:40am

re: #205 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So what if Curiel’s dad wasn’t a U.S. citizen? Curiel was born in the U.S. and is an American. I don’t understand Rage Furby’s point.

230
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:24:49am

GotNwes had to retract its statement that Rage Furby obtained those death certificates illegally, because they are available online at genealogy websites.

Chuck Johnson used genealogy websites to find records of federal judge’s parents

Genealogy websites assume that people researching these records have good intentions. This is not always the case.

231
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:25:22am

Awful

Over the weekend of June 4, a GoFundMe page titled ‘Save Sarah’ was set up for the teen by her cousin Joey Jordan, an actor who plays Winn Schott on the show ‘Supergirl’—and states that her parents “believe that homosexuality is a sin and abnormal”, and that Sarah was sent away against her will to the facility for troubled teens to ‘pray away the gay.

The realization of Sarah’s sexuality drew her parents’ attention when it was time to go to prom, and Sarah elected to take her girlfriend.

Jordan states that “instead of preparing for college and competing in the state debate tournament, she’ll be doing forced labor every day and enduring Bible-based ‘therapy’ for her ‘disease

232
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:27:30am

re: #229 Patricia Kayden

So what if Curiel’s dad wasn’t a U.S. citizen? Curiel was born in the U.S. and is an American. I don’t understand Rage Furby’s point.

Well, it seems he’s moved the goalposts and is not chasing the illegal alien angle now. He’s just trying to find something to discredit the judge, because he’s become a loyal Trump fanboy ever since it became clear his real love, Ted Cruz, was a loser.

He has no point.

233
Patricia Kayden  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:27:47am

re: #231 Dr. Matt

When she becomes President, Secretary Clinton should work towards making “gay therapy” businesses obsolete. They should be illegal given all the damage they have done to the LGBT community.

234
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:28:45am

re: #231 Dr. Matt

Awful

[Embedded content]

Here is that GoFundMe page. I was going to page this story, but then got a nasty cold.
gofundme.com

235
dharmamark  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:29:47am

re: #231 Dr. Matt

That’s horrifying.

236
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:30:48am

re: #235 dharmamark

That’s horrifying.

The GoFundMe campaign is about halfway to its $100K goal.

237
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:35:48am

Oh, brother, Rage Furby is trying really hard to whip up anti-Mexican feelings. He’s claiming that Mexico is inciting violence at Trump rallies, and has a post today with this breathless headline: WOW! Trump Supporter Threatened With Knife By Savage At #SanJose Rally

Reading further, the victim says:

However, as we walked passed someone, I felt my head grabbed and my hat robbed me as he grabbed it from the top of my head. I chased after him, and he ended up falling to the ground not too far away. Both me and my dad caught up to him and were trying to reach for the hat. However, the end result was of me getting sucker punched by the man. I fell to the ground and hit the other side of my head against the street. The man ended up towering over me after a knife dropped out of his pocket.

“A knife dropped out of his pocket” is not quite the same thing as “threatened with a knife.”

Also, Chuck is now using the word “savages” to refer to anti-Trump protesters, presumably because he believes they are all operatives for the Mexican government.

smdh

238
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:42:33am

Interesting perspective of that awful comb over:

239
No Depression  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:44:42am

Hahaha:

240
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:45:16am

A lizard named Charles!

241
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:51:28am

re: #238 Dr. Matt

Interesting perspective of that awful comb over:

Embedded Image

Embedded Image

A double combover, no less. Left to right, back to front.

242
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 5:53:22am

re: #231 Dr. Matt

Awful

Texas teen sent to ‘pray away the gay’ Christian camp by parents

It is awful and unfortunate that she has to endure this kind of shit from her family until she turns 18. But we must certainly abolish any form of court-mandated “anti-gay therapy”

243
darthstar  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:06:06am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

A lizard named Charles!

[Embedded content]

What do you feed him?

Whatever the fuck he wants.

244
Dark_Falcon  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:07:38am

re: #237 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The use of ‘savages’ is telling. Someone who uses that word has abandoned any pretense of respectability and has gone Full Stormfront.

245
(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:08:27am

re: #231 Dr. Matt

Awful

[Embedded content]

It reminds me of this Cracked article: 5 Realities Of The Rehab Camp My Parents Paid To Kidnap Me.

I keep hammering it, but cracked.com does better journalism than most news media outlets.

246
Archangelus  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:10:18am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

A lizard named Charles!

[Embedded content]

I do believe we’ve just found LGF’s new mascot!

247
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:11:52am

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

The use of ‘savages’ is telling. Someone who uses that word has abandoned any pretense of respectability and has gone Full Stormfront.

Mos def. Chuck is now part of the alt right, white supremacist front, because he has no one else to associate himself with. He’s burned all his bridges to everyone else.

248
dangerman  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:23:02am

re: #225 Alephnaught

He seems to do this a lot in 2012.

[Embedded content]

why a confidential source?
wouldn’t such a thing be massive public information?

249
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:23:24am

heh

I do believe Jeff Sessions is on the short list.

251
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:26:06am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

Did folks here see this?

Bristol Palin marries Dakota Meyer in surprise ceremony one year after calling off wedding just days before their nuptials

Yeah, Bristol Meyer. ;-)

252
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:27:43am

re: #251 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Kid’s name Squib? /

254
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:28:38am

re: #252 lawhawk

Kid’s name Squib? /

HA! Don’t give them any ideas.

255
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:28:39am

re: #252 lawhawk

Kid’s name Squib? /

Oscar, or maybe Russ.

256
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:28:45am

re: #252 lawhawk

Kid’s name Squib? /

Oscar

257
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:29:23am

Lansky

258
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:30:40am

Ohmy

259
Alephnaught  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:32:40am

re: #248 dangerman

why a confidential source?
wouldn’t such a thing be massive public information?

I know. He seems to be in a bit of a conspiracy mood in 2012. Here’s another tweet from the same year.

260
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:32:46am

re: #239 No Depression

Obama is not a leader, he’s just a campaigner!
— Donald J. Trump

Gosh, that’s just devastating.

261
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:32:48am

“The president is not Sen. Sanders’ boss. We’ve got to get this straight here,” said Nina Turner, a former Ohio state senator who’s been traveling the country on behalf of the campaign. “There’s respect that’s for the commander in chief … but Sen. Sanders is duly elected, and he’ll make his own decisions.”

Ahhh, I was wondering what Nina had said last night that had everyone screaming at their TVs.

262
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:33:28am

I’m seriously impressed at Charles’ coding to get a random Tweet generator running showing Trump’s tweets from his archives.

There’s some good ones in there.

Trump claims to be the most fiscally responsible of all, but his tax plan would add more than $1T every year for 10 years following enactment. That’s not just my word, but the Tax Foundation’s analysis, and they’re pretty damned good at what they do. He’d add $10 Trillion (with a T) to the debt, all to fund his massive tax cuts for the rich.

Everyone else would be left holding the bag.

Guess he’s not so worried about China buying up that debt though, since he’s doing it for personal gain. Or he simply forgot that he thinks China buying the debt is a problem. Or doesn’t care. Or ignores that the big chunk of debt added during Obama’s first term was to spend our way out of the Great Recession and the continuing drag resulting from the Bush tax cuts, some of which were made permanent.

While Obama did make some of those cuts permanent, what Obama did, and what Trump proposes are two different things entirely. Trump’s scale of tax cuts for the rich is absolutely breathtaking.

Oh, and for the comparison between both parties being alike: Clinton’s tax plan would cut the debt by about $200 billion over 10 years. Add 10T to debt, or cut it by $200 billion. Yeah, both parties are just alike.

263
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:34:10am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sanders supporters warn Obama: Don’t try to stop Bernie t.co | Getty pic.twitter.com
— POLITICO

A statement so derpy it defies my attempts to ridicule it.

264
dangerman  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:36:38am

re: #255 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oscar, or maybe Russ.

Supervixens!

265
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:36:48am
266
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:37:36am

re: #265 lawhawk

Donald Trump isn’t “destroying” the Republican Party. He’s REVEALING it.

revealing it to be a party incapable of winning a presidential election

267
Dark_Falcon  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:37:45am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ahhh, I was wondering what Nina had said last night that had everyone screaming at their TVs.

Proper response: “Lady, Obama doesn’t have to. Your guy just lost!”

268
dangerman  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:38:15am

re: #259 Alephnaught

I know. He seems to be in a bit of a conspiracy mood in 2012. Here’s another tweet from the same year.

[Embedded content]

I believe @BarackObama is manipulating the jobless numbers

well if by “manipulating the jobless numbers” you mean improving the economy so less people aren’t working, then hindsight says yes.

270
darthstar  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:39:59am

So Monday was the first day of our annual U-Pick vegetable thing. Mostly lettuces, kale, chard and other early vegetables. But also strawberries and rhubarb…so I got to throw one of these together last night.

I’m just going to say it. I like pie. And I know where the phrase ‘easy as pie’ comes from…

271
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:40:15am

re: #262 lawhawk

China holds $1.27T in US debt instruments: T bills and T bonds. en.wikipedia.org

That’s a fraction of the total US debt, if you include entitlement programs.

272
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:41:51am

re: #271 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You apparently did more fact checking than Trump did. Figures. /we’ve trained you well… :)

273
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:43:45am

SMOTI shows his chops as SMOTI

274
Joe Bacon  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:47:56am

re: #121 Dave In Austin

Bristol Palin got married to her baby daddy MOH winner Dakota Meyer.

Now she’s Bristol Meyer…….!??!

Did he get her pregnant again?

275
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:48:06am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ahhh, I was wondering what Nina had said last night that had everyone screaming at their TVs.

Nina Turner is fucking obnoxious. I listened to her rant last night on MSNBC and she makes it sound like the country and Democratic party owes Bernie something….because he came in second place. Talk about being entitled. Sheesh.

276
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:49:39am

I AM SO FABULOUS WITH THE MEXICANS!!!11! I EVEN SELECTED A MEXICAN MISS UNIVERSE!!!!!

277
Dark_Falcon  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:50:13am

re: #274 Joe Bacon

Did he get her pregnant again?

As far as I am aware, no.

278
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:50:21am

re: #272 lawhawk

You apparently did more fact checking than Trump did. Figures. /we’ve trained you well… :)

I work on the assumption that Trump lies/makes shit up.

279
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:51:44am

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

As far as I am aware, no.

We’ll need to remember the wedding date and compare to the birthdate of the next Bristol brat.

280
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:52:26am

heh

281
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:53:18am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

One last thing before I crash but the BBs of FDR’s day hated FDR for not destroying capitalism and putting socialism in its place. FDR like so many successful liberals was idealistic but also a pragmatist too. You need both to be a successful liberal whether you’re in politics or not.

Liberals are not anti-capitalist. Strongly regulated capitalism, yes, but we accept the need for business and industry in society. There are other political philosophies to go to if you don’t like business.

282
jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:54:02am

Imgur
Good morning!

283
dangerman  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:55:57am

Seen on Dkos this morning

Another Mr Brown mbayrob Jun 09 * 12:56:23 AM
From the Matching Tie and Handkerchief album, the record with “3 sides!” Inspired stuff.

LGF discussed the record with 3 sides yesterday
what’re the odds?

284
Dark_Falcon  Jun 9, 2016 • 6:59:04am

I wouldn’t normally post a Allahpundit tweet here, but this one is a worthy exception:

285
Dark_Falcon  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:00:59am

re: #282 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Bluegill, the State Fish of Illinois. Fully edible, nowadays even if fished out of the Chicago River.

286
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:03:20am
287
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:07:00am

If this is anything like the last one, Trump’s going to feel that sting as he gets his hat handed to him again. Hillary’s going to keep doing this all the way through to November. Trump’s response is nothing but a bunch of stuttering incompetence. And insults. Lots of insults.

To cover up that he has nothing else.

288
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:07:02am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The president is not Sen. Sanders’ boss. We’ve got to get this straight here,” said Nina Turner, a former Ohio state senator who’s been traveling the country on behalf of the campaign. “There’s respect that’s for the commander in chief … but Sen. Sanders is duly elected, and he’ll make his own decisions.”

Did Nina’s parents ever explain the difference between being able to do something because you can and doing the right thing? I could drink bleach, but there’s a whole lot of reasons not to.

And duly elected don’t mean squat in this situation.

289
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:07:53am

how is it now?

290
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:08:55am

Immigration is the key to growing the economy, and reducing the debt. Who knew…

291
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:09:55am

Puerto Rico v Sanchez Valle
Double jeopardy bars Puerto Rico and the United States from successively prosecuting a single person for the same conduct under equivalent criminal laws.
Opinion by Kagan with Ginsberg concurring.
Dissent by Breyer joined by Sotomayor.

292
Shiplord Kirel  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:11:00am

re: #215 Franklin

DIPLOMACY!!! FOREIGN POLICY!!!!

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
When is South Korea going to start paying us for the massive amounts of money we are spending to protect them from the North?
6:02 PM - 6 Apr 2013

5,099 dead in support of OUR war effort in Vietnam might be considered a good down payment. South Korea in the Vietnam War
Fuck Trump.

293
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:11:11am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Puerto Rico v Sanchez Valle
Double jeopardy bars Puerto Rico and the United States from successively prosecuting a single person for the same conduct under equivalent criminal laws.
Opinion by Kagan with Ginsberg concurring.
Dissent by Breyer joined by Sotomayor.

wow

294
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:11:55am

Watch it again:

LIVE Stream: Hillary Clinton California Primary FULL Victory Speech (6-7-16) Brooklyn, New York

our next POTUS.

295
Dark_Falcon  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:12:07am

re: #287 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

If this is anything like the last one, Trump’s going to feel that sting as he gets his hat handed to him again. Hillary’s going to keep doing this all the way through to November. Trump’s response is nothing but a bunch of stuttering incompetence. And insults. Lots of insults.

To cover up that he has nothing else.

It won’t be. Foreign policy is a stronger suit for Mrs. Clinton than economics. On economics she’ll be constrained by the need to mollify the left-wing of the Democratic Party and that need will open up avenues of attack that Republicans will use. Those counterattacks may not be expressly in support of Trump, but the effect will be much the same as if they were.

296
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:12:16am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

Puerto Rico v Sanchez Valle
Double jeopardy bars Puerto Rico and the United States from successively prosecuting a single person for the same conduct under equivalent criminal laws.
Opinion by Kagan with Ginsberg concurring.
Dissent by Breyer joined by Sotomayor.

I will admit I don’t know much about the legal consequences of territories.

297
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:12:37am

re: #287 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

If this is anything like the last one, Trump’s going to feel that sting as he gets his hat handed to him again. Hillary’s going to keep doing this all the way through to November. Trump’s response is nothing but a bunch of stuttering incompetence. And insults. Lots of insults.

To cover up that he has nothing else.

A rhetorical combover…

298
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:13:17am

re: #287 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

If this is anything like the last one, Trump’s going to feel that sting as he gets his hat handed to him again. Hillary’s going to keep doing this all the way through to November. Trump’s response is nothing but a bunch of stuttering incompetence. And insults. Lots of insults.

To cover up that he has nothing else.

The Trump campaign has announced that he will deliver a “major anti-Hillary speech” sometime next week. It will probably consist of lame debunked conspiracy theories and the usual juvenile name calling.

299
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:13:37am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

It won’t be. Foreign policy is a stronger suit for Mrs. Clinton than economics. On economics she’ll be constrained by the need to mollify the left-wing of the Democratic Party and that need will open up avenues of attack that Republicans will use. Those counterattacks may not be expressly in support of Trump, but the effect will be much the same as if they were.

She’s also had a lot of experience with domestic concerns as well. Universal healthcare and SNAP are two off of the top of my head.

300
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:13:39am

FFS, I’m starting to see RWNJs claim Hillary is lying again because: Hillary Clinton is not the first female presidential nominee — not even close

As usual, reality doesn’t agree with nutjobs:

“Thanks to you, we’ve reached a milestone - the first time in our nation’s history that a woman will be a major party’s nominee for president of the United States.”
~Hillary Clinton, June 7, 2016

301
Dark_Falcon  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:14:03am

re: #293 Birth Control Works

wow

Wow is right, given that Justice Kagan got the entire right wing of the court to line up behind her. Well, the late Justice Scalia said she was smart…

302
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:14:17am

OK this one made me LOL

303
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:14:36am

re: #287 lawhawk

If this is anything like the last one, Trump’s going to feel that sting as he gets his hat handed to him again. Hillary’s going to keep doing this all the way through to November. Trump’s response is nothing but a bunch of stuttering incompetence. And insults. Lots of insults.

To cover up that he has nothing else.

And the great thing is, after her foreign policy speech, the press will be there to find out what she’ll say next.

304
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:14:43am

re: #200 Ming5000

The difference is Clinton cinched the nod a couple of days ago. Trump did a while ago.

Let’s see what the dems do in the next few days. Maybe none of them put up nominees until the conventions. If that’s the case, I withdraw my Mark My Words comment.

305
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:15:21am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

OK this one made me LOL

The new Pope is a humble man, very much like me, which probably explains why I like him so much!

This is one that he certainly meant ironically…

306
Dark_Falcon  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:15:55am

re: #299 Belafon

She’s also had a lot of experience with domestic concerns as well. Universal healthcare and SNAP are two off of the top of my head.

Past support for welfare programs are an avenue of counter-attack. But I don’t want to get into that too deeply since I’m leaving soon. I don’t want to leave having ticked folks here off.

307
No Depression  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:16:11am

re: #284 Dark_Falcon

I wouldn’t normally post a Allahpundit tweet here, but this one is a worthy exception:

[Embedded content]

These people aren’t progressives—they’re evil. If they decide to lob Molotov cocktails and they blow up in their faces, I wouldn’t shed a single tear for them.

308
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:17:17am

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

Past support for welfare programs are an avenue of counter-attack. But I don’t want to get into that too deeply since I’m leaving soon. I don’t want to leave having ticked folks here off.

She has a legislative and policy-making record that simply cannot be compared to Trump’s….because he doesn’t have one!!!

309
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:17:24am

Williams v Pennsylvania

Opinion by Kennedy. Holding: Chief Justice Castille’s denial of the recusal motion and his subsequent participation violated the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision is vacated and remanded.

Dissent by Roberts, joined by Alito. Thomas also dissenting.

310
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:21:46am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

Hardly. She’s going to destroy him on taxes, which is the essential Trump position. Everything else flows from taxes. If you think otherwise, you’re deluding yourself.

Fiscal responsibility starts with a tax plan that actually makes sense. Trump adds trillions in debt to give tax cuts to the rich. Only way to avoid the debt is to massively cut services, including the safety net programs, defense budgets, and Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid.

Clinton’s tax plan raises taxes on those who can most afford them, and begins the process of reducing debt.

She’ll also talk about expanding various services and minimum wage hikes, but in the context of reducing burdens on government (instead of government paying for food stamps, Walmart can afford to pay their workers living wages). Shift the burden of wages back on to employers.

On and on, but in the end, it comes back to economic growth and that tax cuts for the rich will not help anyone but the rich get richer.

And I expect her to talk about how corporations and CEOs complaining about high corporate taxes will whine, but 20% of those big corporations aren’t paying fed corp taxes anyways.

311
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:23:47am
Definition of welfare in English:

welfare
Pronunciation: /ˈwelˌfer/
NOUN

1The health, happiness, and fortunes of a person or group:
they don’t give a damn about the welfare of their families
More example sentences Synonyms

1.1Statutory procedure or social effort designed to promote the basic physical and material well-being of people in need:
the protection of rights to education, housing, and welfare
More example sentences

1.2chiefly North American Financial support given to people in need.
Example sentences Synonyms

It’s interesting that there is a specific definition for North America.

We forget that we are not the standard for the rest of the world.

312
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:25:37am

re: #310 lawhawk

Corporations and Wingnuts will say that they give so much back in charitable donations. Conveniently ignoring the fact that they are deciding who benefits from their “welfare dollars.”

It is another form of separate but not equal.

IMHO

313
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:26:45am

re: #312 Birth Control Works

Corporations and Wingnuts will say that they give so much back in charitable donations. Conveniently ignoring the fact that they are deciding who benefits from their “welfare dollars.”

It is another form of separate but not equal.

IMHO

Because anything corporate is de facto better than anything government

314
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:27:01am

re: #311 Birth Control Works

It also reveals much about people who deliberately choose to use the word “welfare” as a pejorative.

315
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:27:01am

re: #300 Dr. Matt

FFS, I’m starting to see RWNJs claim Hillary is lying again because: Hillary Clinton is not the first female presidential nominee — not even close

As usual, reality doesn’t agree with nutjobs:

Well, for all intents and purposes —she is.

Thus is rhetoric.

316
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:28:08am

re: #273 The Vicious Babushka

If that’s the case, the GOP has been in a world of hurt for minorities for a very, very long time.

317
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:28:15am

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because anything corporate is de facto better than anything government

you forgot your sarc tag :)

318
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:28:46am

well, this doesn’t look good:

319
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:29:16am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, this doesn’t look good:

[Embedded content]

Indy?

320
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:29:25am

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

Health care is a welfare program?

That’s an…interesting…perspective you have there, D_F.

321
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:29:44am

re: #319 Birth Control Works

Indy?

Cincinnati

322
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:30:00am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cincinnati

ah

323
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:30:43am

re: #320 Romantic Heretic

Health care is a welfare program?

That’s an…interesting…perspective you have there, D_F.

From the extreme Right-Wing perspective, it is.

Economically, it is an expense, not an asset.

324
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:30:45am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

It also reveals much about people who deliberately choose to use the word “welfare” as a pejorative.

And there’s also that little bit in the Constitution that mandates that Congress provide for the “General Welfare.” The GOP seems to have completely ignored that bit when they talk about being strict constructionist/constitutional literalists. Can’t imagine why…

325
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:31:21am

re: #322 Birth Control Works

ah

Brent Spence is an aging bridge in need of replacement.
It’s also the main north-south interstate bridge in the Greater Cincinnati.

326
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:31:55am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Puerto Rico v Sanchez Valle
Double jeopardy bars Puerto Rico and the United States from successively prosecuting a single person for the same conduct under equivalent criminal laws.
Opinion by Kagan with Ginsberg concurring.
Dissent by Breyer joined by Sotomayor.

It should. Why would you want double jeopardy to be nullified? I am curious as hell why the dissent.

327
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:31:59am

re: #312 Birth Control Works

Corporations and Wingnuts will say that they give so much back in charitable donations. Conveniently ignoring the fact that they are deciding who benefits from their “welfare dollars.”

It is another form of separate but not equal.

IMHO

Plus much of their charity goes to things like building with the donator’s name on it at their alma mater and that for of thing.

Which does do much for hungry, sick people who can’t afford to ameliorate either.

328
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:32:52am

re: #327 Romantic Heretic

Plus much of their charity goes to things like building with the donator’s name on it at their alma mater and that for of thing.

Which does do much for hungry, sick people who can’t afford to ameliorate either.

NASCAR and stadiums … .

329
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:33:06am

re: #326 MsJ

It should. Why would you want double jeopardy to be nullified? I am curious as hell why the dissent.

My guess would be the issue of sovereignty. I haven’t read the opinion yet, however.

330
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:33:07am

re: #320 Romantic Heretic

Health care is a welfare program?

That’s an…interesting…perspective you have there, D_F.

In the positive sense: caring for the health and welfare of the populace.

It is also a redistribution system, which a lot of people oppose, but so is the current system. Health costs of people who cannot afford insurance are passed on to those who can.

331
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:33:25am

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

Past support for welfare programs are an avenue of counter-attack. But I don’t want to get into that too deeply since I’m leaving soon. I don’t want to leave having ticked folks here off.

So be it.

She has to take this tack and take it hard. Rebuild the social safety net. Same goes for marriage equality, sensible gun reforms, immigration reform, voting rights. She has to promote them in a way that speaks to the undecideds.

Fuck the RWNJ’s, they will attack her for saying water is wet.

332
ObserverArt  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:33:27am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ahhh, I was wondering what Nina had said last night that had everyone screaming at their TVs.

You know…I once thought Nina Turner was an okay Ohio politician. I voted for her for the Secretary of State office when she ran after all.

I was wrong. She really went over the top with the Bernie stuff. I hope she chills out and reviews some of her words and actions. She will need to realize she really hurt any future efforts.

333
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:33:29am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

It won’t be. Foreign policy is a stronger suit for Mrs. Clinton than economics. On economics she’ll be constrained by the need to mollify the left-wing of the Democratic Party and that need will open up avenues of attack that Republicans will use. Those counterattacks may not be expressly in support of Trump, but the effect will be much the same as if they were.

Interestingly, the economy has historically done better under democrats. You assume Clinton is stronger on FP. What facts do you have to back that up? Sure, she was SOS, but I have seen nothing that indicates she is not equally strong on economics.

334
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:34:12am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But you know D_F meant that as a pejorative. Since welfare makes people lazy and stupid and all that.

335
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:34:27am

re: #326 MsJ

It should. Why would you want double jeopardy to be nullified? I am curious as hell why the dissent.

I think it has more to do with Puerto Rico’s sovereignty. Either we should make them a state or cut them loose. no?

336
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:35:19am

re: #334 Romantic Heretic

But you know D_F meant that as a pejorative. Since welfare makes people lazy and stupid and all that.

In the old days, you just went to the doctor with a chicken. And at least three of your seven children died before their sixth birthday…

337
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:35:26am

LITTLE GOATS!!!!

338
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:35:26am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brent Spence is an aging bridge in need of replacement.
It’s also the main north-south interstate bridge in the Greater Cincinnati.

Economically speaking, the infrastructure is a big deal. If goods cannot be reliably brought to market because of failing roads and bridges —it will all fall apart, not just the bridges.

339
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:35:32am

re: #315 Birth Control Works

Well, for all intents and purposes —she is.

Thus is rhetoric.

This is coming from the same crowd that sys she is not the nominee since the delegates won’t vote until July. English language, rhetoric, commons sense fly over their heads.

340
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:37:18am

re: #300 Dr. Matt

Yes, there’s been others, including Shirley Chisholm, Jill Stein, Margaret Chase Smith and the wackaloon Lenora Funari, but Clinton got more votes in CA (1.9 million) during the 2016 primaries than all of the prior women not named Hillary Clinton who ran for president got, combined.

She’s gotten more votes in a primary season than anyone not named Barack Obama. More than Trump. More than Romney in 2012. More than McCain in 2008.

341
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:38:15am

re: #339 Franklin

This is coming from the same crowd that sys she is not the nominee since the delegates won’t vote until July. English language, rhetoric, commons sense fly over their heads.

thus is politics ..

rhetoric, politics, all branches of philosophy… .

humans*&^!

342
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:38:27am

re: #338 Birth Control Works

Economically speaking, the infrastructure is a big deal. If goods cannot be reliably brought to market because of failing roads and bridges —it will all fall apart, not just the bridges.

People forget that the Free Market cannot function without a solid infrastructure: both a physical infrastructure and a legal/regulatory infrastructure.

And we cannot trust the people who produce the goods to own or regulate the infrastructure if we want the market to function to everyone’s benefit.

343
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:38:30am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

Back massage.

344
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:39:39am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As Adam Smith pointed out in Wealth of Nations.

345
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:40:40am

re: #338 Birth Control Works

Economically speaking, the infrastructure is a big deal. If goods cannot be reliably brought to market because of failing roads and bridges —it will all fall apart, not just the bridges.

China understands this very well. They’ve spent billions on highways and high speed rail, which require bridges and tunnels. Within a few years, you’ll able to take high speed rail from Beijing to Urumqi in Xinjiang, and it will take maybe a day total. Now, a train ride from Chengdu in Sichuan to Urumqi can take three days.

They’re adding new airports, too, but unfortunately China’s airspace is controlled by the PLA. There are too few civilian air corridors to handle even the present air passenger traffic. Adding airports will not improve matters at all.

346
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:40:56am

re: #326 MsJ

Because technically speaking, Puerto Rico is “independent” of the US in various respects. It is not a state. Its status is the reason why this is even a question in the first place.

If PR were a state, then we wouldn’t even be having this suit in the first place. But PR is treated as a commonwealth, so the question rose when the local prosecutors filed suit on an issue that was also being handled in US federal court.

347
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:41:02am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People forget that the Free Market cannot function without a solid infrastructure: both a physical infrastructure and a legal/regulatory infrastructure.

And we cannot trust the people who produce the goods to own or regulate the infrastructure if we want the market to function to everyone’s benefit.

I don’t think those in power have forgotten. They are bogged down in arguments (dick fights) over who get’s the contracts. Is it going to be a government project or will it be given to private industry.

We all know how well that is turned out for the prison system. We also know the astounding success of the WPA.

Infrastructure is a government function.

348
Lidane  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:41:16am

So the latest Bernie Bro conspiracy is that BERNIE WUZ ROBBED!!1!!11! in California and that he actually won in a landslide, but Hillary was crowned the winner because 2/3 of his votes will never be counted.

The source for this fuckwittery is some site called Justice Gazette which looks fake to me, but it’s hard to tell anymore.

349
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:42:14am

re: #348 Lidane

So the latest Bernie Bro conspiracy is that BERNIE WUZ ROBBED!!1!!11! in California and that he actually won in a landslide because 2/3 of his votes will never be counted.

The source for this fuckwittery is some site called Justice Gazette which looks fake to me, but it’s hard to tell anymore.

Embedded Image

Bernie people need to give it up. Hillary is the only candidate that is remotely Presidential.

350
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:43:28am

re: #344 Romantic Heretic

As Adam Smith pointed out in Wealth of Nations.

All the Free Marketers get out of that work is the Invisible Handjob.

351
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:44:08am

re: #346 lawhawk

Because technically speaking, Puerto Rico is “independent” of the US in various respects. It is not a state. Its status is the reason why this is even a question in the first place.

If PR were a state, then we wouldn’t even be having this suit in the first place. But PR is treated as a commonwealth, so the question rose when the local prosecutors filed suit on an issue that was also being handled in US federal court.

And, technically speaking, Puerto Rico is in a catch-22 situation. Separate, but not separate is inherently unequal.

352
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:45:31am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

LITTLE GOATS!!!!

[Embedded content]

too damn cute!

353
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:46:40am

re: #335 Birth Control Works

I think it has more to do with Puerto Rico’s sovereignty. Either we should make them a state or cut them loose. no?

I know little about that so it would be wrong for me to have an opinion. I would say leave it to them to decide.

As for double jeopardy, I agree if one is acting on an issue (court case), the other should not. That’s two bites at the apple and that doesn’t seem right to me.

354
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:47:38am

I’m not a fan of the concept of US territories. IT reminds me too much of India, Indonesia and the Congo.

We are not supposed to be in that game.

I understand it’s not that black and white —

sigh!

355
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:49:16am

re: #353 MsJ

I know little about that so it would be wrong for me to have an opinion. I would say leave it to them to decide.

As for double jeopardy, I agree if one is acting on an issue (court case), the other should not. That’s two bites at the apple and that doesn’t seem right to me.

THat only works if PR is a separate entity. One can be tried for the same crime in the US and in -let’s say, France.

Two bites out of the same apple within the same jurisdiction —is double jeopardy.

356
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:49:49am

re: #310 lawhawk

20% of big companies pay no taxes

General Electric has the biggest legal department of any corporation in the world.

They also pay zero or negative taxes.

Basically, it is more profitable for them to hire another lawyer than to hire another engineer, staff or production line worker

357
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:50:02am

Watching the RFK segment from Lawrence O’Donnell the other night:

RFK’s final victory speech:

msnbc.com

359
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:50:58am

Pam Bondi hit with ethics, Bar complaints over Trump’s $25,000 donation

TALLAHASSEE — Attorney General Pam Bondi’s political troubles deepened Wednesday when she was slapped with three complaints accusing her of unethical conduct for soliciting campaign donations from Donald Trump while her office was reviewing consumer complaints against Trump University.

The complaints were filed with the Florida Commission on Ethics, Florida Elections Commission and Florida Bar by J. Whitfield Larrabee, a Boston lawyer who said he acted after reading news accounts of Bondi having solicited a $25,000 donation from the Donald J. Trump Foundation in September 2013.

360
ObserverArt  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:52:43am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brent Spence is an aging bridge in need of replacement.
It’s also the main north-south interstate bridge in the Greater Cincinnati.

Nope, nothing wrong with the nations infrastructure. That bridge only grows more busy every year and still nothing is being done for the future. If they have some big issues and need to shut that bridge down it is going to kill travel in the area and a lot of business. I think it carries close to 200,000 vehicles a day. Yeah…no big need there!

Planning? What’s that?

361
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:52:44am

The reason it’s such a big deal that Clinton received the nomination is that “major party candidate” is a euphemism for “more than a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected.” Yes, Jill has been nominated, but she has as much of a chance of becoming president as my wife did winning the nomination of the party I created just to nominate her.

362
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:52:47am

The question that the Bernie bros/RWNJ convergence can’t answer. Because to do so would be to admit that there’s nothing there. Nothing to charge. No crimes committed, let alone alleged. Only wishful thinking masquerading as strategy.

363
makeitstop  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:53:53am

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pam Bondi hit with ethics, Bar complaints over Trump’s $25,000 donation

Here’s hoping Bondi is sweating bullets right now.

364
(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:54:48am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Puerto Rico v Sanchez Valle
Double jeopardy bars Puerto Rico and the United States from successively prosecuting a single person for the same conduct under equivalent criminal laws.
Opinion by Kagan with Ginsberg concurring.
Dissent by Breyer joined by Sotomayor.

Oh boy. That’s going to play non-stop for the next few days.

365
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:55:06am

re: #356 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

20% of big companies pay no taxes

General Electric has the biggest legal department of any corporation in the world.

They also pay zero or negative taxes.

Basically, it is more profitable for them to hire another lawyer than to hire another engineer, staff or production line worker

For a couple of years during the downturn, GE made more money in tax planning moves than they did making tangible goods (like generators, engines, etc.). They’re very good at it too.

366
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:56:13am

re: #357 Franklin

Watching the RFK segment from Lawrence O’Donnell the other night:

RFK’s final victory speech:

msnbc.com

chills just ran thru my body.

Imagine the complete and utter anxiety the Secret Service is coping with right now.

We know the threats they have dealt with Obama. We know the hate towards the black man in this country.

Most people don’t begin to even recognize the hatred towards women.

367
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:56:21am

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pam Bondi hit with ethics, Bar complaints over Trump’s $25,000 donation

Good. Now go after all the others who did the same thing. Dem or GOPer…doesn’t matter. This influence peddling has to stop.

368
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:57:34am

re: #357 Franklin

Watching the RFK segment from Lawrence O’Donnell the other night:

RFK’s final victory speech:

msnbc.com

Christ…had to stop watching it. At work and the waterworks are starting.

My 8yo loves hearing about JFK. She knows that he, along with MLK and RFK were killed for their beliefs but I think even this is too heavy for her to watch.

369
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 7:58:21am

re: #355 Birth Control Works

THat only works if PR is a separate entity. One can be tried for the same crime in the US and in -let’s say, France.

Two bites out of the same apple within the same jurisdiction —is double jeopardy.

Right, but that’s what the suit settled, isn’t it? Can’t do it (it’s “double jeopardy”).

370
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:00:00am

re: #365 lawhawk

For a couple of years during the downturn, GE made more money in tax planning moves than they did making tangible goods (like generators, engines, etc.). They’re very good at it too.

Thus is the genius of Trump. (blech)

371
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:00:52am

re: #369 MsJ

Right, but that’s what the suit settled, isn’t it? Can’t do it (it’s “double jeopardy”).

That is my understanding.

What is the status of Puerto Rico and it’s people?

372
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:01:27am

re: #368 Franklin

Christ…had to stop watching it. At work and the waterworks are starting.

My 8yo loves hearing about JFK. She knows that he, along with MLK and RFK were killed for their beliefs but I think even this is too heavy for her to watch.

It’s too heavy for me (at 51) to watch.

373
ObserverArt  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:02:32am

re: #352 Birth Control Works

too damn cute!

I never knew goats were so entertaining until I started to hang out around here. Wrench has had a lot to do with all that…as have others.

I think the first video I remember was a group of goats that had some rolled up metal out in a field and they were jumping on it and using it a spring launching ramp and bouncing up and down and having a blast.

They do seem to be momma nature’s animal gymnasts.

I have a better understanding of how they can climb the sides of hills and mountains human need all kinds of equipment to accomplish.

374
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:02:53am

re: #371 Birth Control Works

That is my understanding.

What is the status of Puerto Rico and it’s people?

Same as it was?

Not ideal, especially with the debt issue hanging over them…and us. I agree that we need to shit or get off the pot. But I also think they should be driving what they want, not us.

375
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:03:27am

re: #372 Birth Control Works

It’s too heavy for me (at 51) to watch.

I finally got it together, then @lawrence starts to choke up…damn it!

I may have to show her Ted Kennedy’s eulogy, it was beautiful. She just went on a field trip to the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the U.S. Senate so he’s her new fave Kennedy for the time being.

376
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:04:01am

re: #373 ObserverArt

My fav goat video is this one where they’re “talking” back to the guy.

A Group Of Sheep Respond In Unison When A Man Speaks Their…

377
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:05:27am

What’s needed now in American politics is consternation, confusion, dissension, disorder, chaos — and crisis, with possible resolution — and a Trump presidency is the best chance for this true progress. This is a politics of arson. I’d rather see the empire burn to the ground under Trump, opening up at least the possibility of radical change, than cruise on autopilot under Clinton.

snip

At this point I like to think of the two presumptive big-party candidates as floozies flouncing on the stage. The one is painted, sweetened with perfumes, dressed in finery, and denies her involvement in the unseemly business. The other is at least an honest syphilitic, track-marked degenerate whose record on television and in his business dealings make plain his fealty to Mammon.

Both are monsters. But only one has a curriculum vitae as an agent of the state.

good freaking grief…

378
calochortus  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:06:28am

re: #374 MsJ

Same as it was?

Not ideal, especially with the debt issue hanging over them…and us. I agree that we need to shit or get off the pot. But I also think they should be driving what they want, not us.

Trouble with that is they are divided about what they want-there isn’t a majority for statehood, independence or status quo.

379
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:07:06am

re: #378 calochortus

Trouble with that is they are divided about what they want-there isn’t a majority for statehood, independence or status quo.

Then status quo it is.

380
BeachDem  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:07:41am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And as we predicted, Rage Furby is taking credit for Renee Elmers’ defeat in NC.

FLAWLESS VICTORY: GotNews. com REPORTING DEFEATED RENEE ELLMERS!!!! #iVoted

Most reputable accounts say Ellmers lost because she wasn’t anti-abortion enough, and lost to someone even more right wing than she is. Chuck says he proved Ellmers and Kevin McCarthy were having an affair, but no reputable news outlet has reported it.

He’s full of it.

Wait, so if nobody reported it, how did that BREAKING NEWS have anything to do with her losing? Oh, wait again, it’s Rage Furby logic.

381
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:08:37am

re: #336 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the old days, you just went to the doctor with a chicken. And at least three of your seven children died before their sixth birthday…

Anyone, well, everyone:

I strongly suggest watching or reading: Call the Midwife.

It depicts life in the East End of London after WWII and at the beginning of their National Health care System. The Memoir of midwife, Jenny Worth. It continues thru the 60’s.

for a bit of history: before the Pill, the midwives assisted in average 95 births a month. after the Pill — 5.

Tell me we don’t need comprehensive sex ed and cost-free birth control … . go ahead.

382
ObserverArt  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:10:17am

re: #368 Franklin

Christ…had to stop watching it. At work and the waterworks are starting.

My 8yo loves hearing about JFK. She knows that he, along with MLK and RFK were killed for their beliefs but I think even this is too heavy for her to watch.

I was in 8th grade about to graduate to our Catholic High School. The nuns absolutely loved the Kennedy’s of course. I’m pretty sure we were in the last week of school and I do believe it was the evening of the last day. What should have been a light and fun last day of school was anything but.

I can’t watch any of the video of that…it still brings back all the shock and hurt.

383
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:10:33am

re: #376 MsJ

My fav goat video is this one where they’re “talking” back to the guy.

[Embedded content]

I have a German Shepherd Mix that does the same thing!

384
calochortus  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:11:29am

re: #379 MsJ

Then status quo it is.

Yup. Personally, I think we ought to make PR a state and be done with it, but I defer to the residents’ wishes. I just wish they could come to a consensus.

385
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:11:37am

re: #380 BeachDem

Wait, so if nobody reported it, how did that BREAKING NEWS have anything to do with her losing? Oh, wait again, it’s Rage Furby logic.

He does this every time one of the subjects of his innuendo-laden, fact-challenged reports fails: Brian Williams, Menendez in NJ, Kevin McCarthy, and now Renee Ellmers. The fact that there be other mitigating factors completely eludes him.

386
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:11:39am

re: #383 Birth Control Works

I have a German Shepherd Mix that does the same thing!

My first Irish setter used to sing Happy Birthday.

Animals. They are better than a good number of people. :-)

387
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:12:28am

re: #386 MsJ

My first Irish setter used to sing Happy Birthday.

Animals. They are better than a good number of people. :-)

They are people.

de facto

388
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:13:20am

re: #387 Birth Control Works

They are people.

de facto

I always say that my kids are just a little harrier than other people’s kids.

389
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:13:21am

re: #382 ObserverArt

I was in 8th grade about to graduate to our Catholic High School. The nuns absolutely loved the Kennedy’s off course. I’m pretty sure we were in the last week of school and I do believe it was the evening of the last day. What should have been a light and fun last day of school was anything but.

I can’t watch any of the video of that…it still brings back all the shock and hurt.

I don’t blame you.

390
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:14:53am
391
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:17:00am

And that’s still no excuse for assault. Nope. Still a criminal act in egging this woman.

392
ObserverArt  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:18:07am

Heh…gotta love how easy it is to find a YouTube. Typed in “goats jumping on” and the drop down list showed all kinds of things they jump on and there it is “metal”

And thus…

FUNNY GOATS BALANCING ON A FLEXIBLE METAL RIBBON LOL (EPIC PARTY) TINY TIM REMIX SONG

And it’s time for me to get some truck graphics sized…later!

393
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:18:23am

re: #390 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

When asked if he thought Sanders would endorse Hillary Clinton or when he thought Sanders would drop out, Obama was quick to pivot the conversation to the seriousness of the presidency and took an apparent jab at Trump.

“The main role I’m going to be playing in this process is to remind the American people that this is a serious job,” he said. “This is not reality TV.”

394
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:19:43am
395
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:20:28am

re: #381 Birth Control Works

Tell me we don’t need comprehensive sex ed and cost-free birth control … . go ahead.

Because it encourages women to be immoral sluts be freeing them from the consequences of their sinful behavior.

/

396
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:20:45am

Have you seen this: trumplies.com (ht Daily Kos)? From the Washington Post:

Correct the Record, a super PAC supporting Hillary Clinton, is launching a “Trump Lies” campaign on Thursday that catalogs the business mogul’s lies and inaccuracies, dating from the start of his real estate career in the 1970s to his current campaign for president.

Thursday’s launch includes an interactive website, trumplies.com, which contains a searchable database of Trump’s misstatements, as well as a 40-minute video highlighting his struggles with the truth since announcing his candidacy a year ago.

The video, set to the entirety of Mozart’s Symphony No. 41, includes every Trump statement that has been awarded Four Pinocchios by The Washington Post’s Fact Checker. The group will update its lies database as the campaign unfolds and plans to continue adding multimedia features and other new material, such as weekly roundups of falsehoods, between now and Election Day.

397
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:21:15am
398
(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:22:24am

re: #378 calochortus

Trouble with that is they are divided about what they want-there isn’t a majority for statehood, independence or status quo.

The pro-statehood has been gaining steam, but that might have hit a wall in the last few years with the PNP party shenanigans.

399
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:23:07am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

i’m dying at this picture. the level of disrespect from the cat to lie down on your pizza is unfathomable

do not expect any normal cat to be able to resist a cardboard box with a built-in warmer

400
calochortus  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:23:52am

re: #395 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because it encourages women to be immoral sluts be freeing them from the consequences of their sinful behavior.

/

And women are the gatekeepers of morality. If women don’t use their moral influence, society crumbles. We can’t give women any real power to do this, but a good woman’s moral force keeps the men around her in line. If they sin, it is her fault for not being good enough. (Actual Victorian philosophy so I don’t know if I should put a sarc tag on it or not.)

401
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:24:08am

re: #388 MsJ

I always say that my kids are just a little harrier than other people’s kids.

Stewardship is a theological belief that humans are responsible for the world, and should take care of it. Many religions and denominations have various degrees of support for environmental stewardship. It can have political implications, such as in Christian Democracy.

Many moderate and progressive Catholics, Protestants and evangelicals see environmentalism as a consequence of stewardship. In Jewish and Christian traditions, stewardship refers to the way time, talents, material possessions, or wealth are used or given for the service of God.

Some pagan or secular views include a Gaia philosophy which accepts the Earth as a holy being or goddess.

The Jewish holiday of Tu Bishvat, or “the Birthday of the Trees,” is also known as Jewish Arbor Day. Some want to expand it to a more global environmental focus.[1]

A biblical world view of stewardship can be consciously defined as: “Utilizing and managing all resources God provides for the glory of God and the betterment of His creation.”[2] The central essence of biblical world view stewardship is managing everything God brings into the believer’s life in a manner that honors God and impacts eternity.

Stewardship begins and ends with the understanding of God’s ownership of all:

“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” (Revelation 22:13)
“The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it.” (Psalm 24:1)
“To the Lord your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, the earth and everything in it.” (Deuteronomy 10:14)
“The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants.” (Leviticus 25:23)
“Who has a claim against me that I must pay? Everything under heaven belongs to me.” (Job 41:11)

and:

steward
noun [C] UK /ˈstjuː.əd/ US /ˈstuː.ɚd/

> a person whose job it is to organize a particular event, or to provide services to particular people, or to take care of a particular place:
Stewards will be inspecting the race track at 9.00.
If you need help at any time during the conference, one of the stewards will be pleased to help you.
> female stewardess, a person who serves passengers on a ship or aircraft
> UK a person who organizes the supply and serving of food at a club:
He’s the steward of the City of Wakefield’s Working Men’s Club.

I’ve always likened the concept to parenthood.

Not ownership or governship.

a priviledge not a right.

402
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:25:10am

Meeting time. Cheers! BBL

403
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:27:15am

re: #400 calochortus

And women are the gatekeepers of morality. If women don’t use their moral influence, society crumbles. We can’t give women any real power to do this, but a good woman’s moral force keeps the men around her in line. If they sin, it is her fault for not being good enough. (Actual Victorian philosophy so I don’t know if I should put a sarc tag on it or not.)

Sorry, BULLSHIT

ALL ADULTS are the gatekeepers of morality.

It is unfair to all genders to put such a responsibility on one gender.

It is our responsibility to become ADULTS in this world and contribute as best we can as we can. Any belief system that allows one gender to fail at any facet of adulthood is inherently unfair to that gender.

404
calochortus  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:29:15am

re: #403 Birth Control Works

Sorry, BULLSHIT

ALL ADULTS are the gatekeepers of morality.

It is unfair to all genders to put such a responsibility on one gender.

It is our responsibility to become ADULTS in this world and contribute as best we can as we can. Any belief system that allows one gender to fail at any facet of adulthood is inherently unfair to that gender.

Absolutely. Perhaps I didn’t make it clear that this is an archaic and totally stupid construct that can be added on to the ‘sluts’ argument. But it was a real one. Just not my actual opinion.

405
No Depression  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:30:25am

Happy Warrior might like this:

406
withak  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:31:28am

re: #405 No Depression

Happy Warrior might like this:

[Embedded content]

I love the Vikings’ current coach, but one of the worst decisions management ever made was letting Tomlin get away.

407
Birth Control Works  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:31:31am

Well, I have a date with little people.

I get hugs!!!!!

bbl

408
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:32:19am

re: #400 calochortus

And women are the gatekeepers of morality. If women don’t use their moral influence, society crumbles. We can’t give women any real power to do this, but a good woman’s moral force keeps the men around her in line. If they sin, it is her fault for not being good enough. (Actual Victorian philosophy so I don’t know if I should put a sarc tag on it or not.)

Men know that women can use their sexual charms to totally dominate them, the only thing that keeps women in line (and men on top) is the fear of the consequences…

409
calochortus  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:33:20am

I’ve got to get going too. We got back from our trip last night and today will be full of exciting things like laundry, grocery shopping, and general catching up on things here.

410
Alephnaught  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:33:51am

My goodness, another Trump conspiracy tweet from 2012 about Barack Obama!

The link is a TwitLonger link. The full text is:

Obama wants Americans to keep buying crude from OPEC who is ripping us off instead of our ally Canada through the Keystone pipeline.@BarackObama

411
KerFuFFler  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:35:26am

A partial quote from a great post by SEK (a sane Sanders supporter) at Lawyers, Guns and Money:

In short, we need to remember that the majority of what we’ve gained in the past seven years under an Obama administration has had far more to do with the composition of the Supreme Court than who occupied the White House.

I’m not saying you have to like it. I’m not saying you have to approve of anything….

I’m just saying that if you let your personal disappointment pave the way for a Trump-nominated Supreme Court in which the gains in civil rights for the LGBTQ community are curtailed, in which Obamacare is scaled back, in which already restricted voting rights for minorities are further limited, in which abortion becomes a back-alley procedure again — if you let your personal heartache hurt all those people, can you really call yourself a liberal?

This is a serious question, and it ain’t about any particular candidates. It’s just something to think about before you start bawking/balking about who you’re voting for. This isn’t capitulation — it’s the future of civil rights for actual American human beings who are not you, as well as for the very definition of this country as a nation of immigrants.

I just read a comment from some wanker who’s planning on voting for Stein because Hillary lets Monsanto poison his food. He says he’s a liberal and has always supported people’s issues that don’t improve his own lot, but this time around he is adamant that he has to vote against Hillary to protect himself. He actually said this issue affects him “3 times a day!” Right, it is sooo hard to find labels that read “GMO free”, so everyone else’s rights don’t enter into the equation for him. (Like his life would be so much easier if he could avoid “contains GMO’s” labels rather than choosing “GMO free” ones.)

This is just so stupid——-Jill Stein won’t win and the wanker will have to continue reading labels carefully. But at least he will have punished Hillary and taken a stand….

412
allegro  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:37:19am

re: #404 calochortus

Absolutely. Perhaps I didn’t make it clear that this is an archaic and totally stupid construct that can be added on to the ‘sluts’ argument. But it was a real one.

I would only argue with the idea that the attitude is archaic. It is still in force. When we hear of the horrid moral failings of the US it’s inevitably illustrated by women debasing ourselves by getting laid, drinking, dressing provocatively, etc. Men are conspicuously absent from responsibility. Just like the issue of rape.

413
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:38:32am

re: #405 No Depression

Happy Warrior might like this:

[Embedded content]

Woot. And Rooney was a big Obama guy.

414
BeachDem  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:39:09am

re: #385 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He does this every time one of the subjects of his innuendo-laden, fact-challenged reports fails: Brian Williams, Menendez in NJ, Kevin McCarthy, and now Renee Ellmers. The fact that there be other mitigating factors completely eludes him.

But usually he claims credit for something that was actually reported as an event (even if, as in the case of Menendez, the actual reporting is totally different from whatever tree he’s been barking up.)

This one is more of a tree didn’t fall in the forest, but everyone who’s anyone heard the crash from miles away.

Can’t wait till when Obama completes his second term and retires, Rage Furby claims that his undercover reporting “drove him from office.”

415
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:40:32am

re: #410 Alephnaught

Obama wants Americans to keep buying crude from OPEC who is ripping us off instead of our ally Canada through the Keystone pipeline.@BarackObama

This statement alone proves he is completely clueless and has no business running for the presidency.

416
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:41:35am

re: #357 Franklin

Watching the RFK segment from Lawrence O’Donnell the other night:

RFK’s final victory speech:

msnbc.com

Thanks

417
BeachDem  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:41:45am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I loved the Veep episode where bands were sending preemptive notes to Jonah telling him to not even think about using their music.

418
nines09  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:43:08am

re: #411 KerFuFFler

I just read a comment from some wanker who’s planning on voting for Stein because Hillary lets Monsanto poison his food. He says he’s a liberal and has always supported people’s issues that don’t improve his own lot, but this time around he is adamant that he has to vote against Hillary to protect himself. He actually said this issue affects him “3 times a day!” Right, it is sooo hard to find labels that read “GMO free”, so everyone else’s rights don’t enter into the equation for him. (Like his life would be so much easier if he could avoid “contains GMO’s” labels rather than choosing “GMO free” ones.)

This is just so stupid——-Jill Stein won’t win and the wanker will have to continue reading labels carefully. But at least he will have punished Hillary and taken a stand…

As insane as the Tea Party. It’s what I call the “What about me?” mindset. Not good enough. You. Not him. Didn’t go far enough. You. Not him. And you let him down. You. Not him. Purity Tests For All!

419
BeachDem  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:43:54am

re: #396 Belafon

Have you seen this: trumplies.com (ht Daily Kos)? From the Washington Post:

But, but David Brock! (Berners hate him with the heat of a thousand suns.)

420
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:44:01am

re: #411 KerFuFFler

I just read a comment from some wanker who’s planning on voting for Stein because Hillary lets Monsanto poison his food.

OFFS

421
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:44:10am
422
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:45:03am

LOL

423
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:45:20am

re: #420 Sir John Barron

That’s a more derpy voting rational than anything a typical conservative would come up with.

424
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:46:09am

re: #414 BeachDem

But usually he claims credit for something that was actually reported as an event (even if, as in the case of Menendez, the actual reporting is totally different from whatever tree he’s been barking up.)

This one is more of a tree didn’t fall in the forest, but everyone who’s anyone heard the crash from miles away.

Can’t wait till when Obama completes his second term and retires, Rage Furby claims that his undercover reporting “drove him from office.”

The Ellmers-McCarthy affair did get some coverage in non-Rage Furby outlets a few years ago, but it was in the political equivalents of TMZ and Buzzfeed. He quoted some “sources” who said the the two were an item, though each one is married to someone else. Chuck is fixated on exposing “frauds,” especially people carrying on extramarital affairs (one wonders why), and he wants all Republicans to be as pure as newly fallen snow.

Chuck is much like Trump, constantly telling people how great he is, how smart he is. But when you look at each man’s accomplishments, there’s not much there.

425
Ming5000  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:47:31am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“unfathomable” should be used more often. haha

426
Shiplord Kirel  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:49:17am

re: #411 KerFuFFler

A partial quote from a great post by SEK (a sane Sanders supporter) at Lawyers, Guns and Money:

I just read a comment from some wanker who’s planning on voting for Stein because Hillary lets Monsanto poison his food. He says he’s a liberal and has always supported people’s issues that don’t improve his own lot, but this time around he is adamant that he has to vote against Hillary to protect himself. He actually said this issue affects him “3 times a day!” Right, it is sooo hard to find labels that read “GMO free”, so everyone else’s rights don’t enter into the equation for him. (Like his life would be so much easier if he could avoid “contains GMO’s” labels rather than choosing “GMO free” ones.)

This is just so stupid——-Jill Stein won’t win and the wanker will have to continue reading labels carefully. But at least he will have punished Hillary and taken a stand….

Probably makes the checker at Whole Foods enter prices manually because he doesn’t want laser beams touching his food.

428
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:52:43am

God, not the anti-GMO loons.

429
Shiplord Kirel  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:52:44am

Rage Furby has discovered something that fundamentalist preachers have known for generations: Stupid people have enough money to make the grift worthwhile. Of course, even the average fundy-quack is much better at it than Chuck is.

430
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:54:55am

So, the Kochs are meeting up with Donnie. Not clear which side will kiss… the ring.

Well, let’s not start sucking each other’s dicks quite yet.

431
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:54:56am

re: #429 Shiplord Kirel

Rage Furby has discovered something that fundamentalist preachers have known for generations: Stupid people have enough money to make the grift worthwhile. Of course, even the average fundy-quack is much better at it than Chuck is.

It’s just a matter of time before this whole WeSearchr thing implodes. Either he and Pax will have a falling out, or one of their targets will take them to court, or the dupes who contributed money (which is non-refundable) will sue to get their cash back.

Or all three.

432
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:55:18am

re: #422 Dr. Matt

DonaldTrump is missing from the front page of the Republican National Committee website.

That sums up the attitude of the party leadership. They have decided on a course of action to make the best of a bad situation.

433
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:56:18am
434
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:57:33am

re: #433 lawhawk

BREAKING—9th Cir. says there’s no 2A right for the general public to carry concealed firearms in public

Unless you can explain what open/concealed carry has to do with any “well regulated militia”…

435
Alephnaught  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:57:34am

Ha ha, here’s one Trump tweet to bring up next time he makes a typo or grammatical error or a word salad.

436
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:57:53am

re: #433 lawhawk

Wow! The RW outrage is only moments away.

437
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:58:57am

re: #433 lawhawk

Sooooo, they are saying that everyone should open carry???/

438
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 8:59:53am

re: #436 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Wow! The RW outrage is only moments away.

HILLARY WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH 2A!!!!!!111

439
GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:00:02am

re: #437 Dr. Matt

That’s how it’ll be “construed”.

440
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:00:17am

re: #435 Alephnaught

Ha ha, here’s one Trump tweet to bring up next time he makes a typo or grammatical error or a word salad.

[Embedded content]

Ha! I got this one:

Billioanire

441
Shiplord Kirel  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:01:17am

re: #433 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

That explains the rising drone I hear from the direction of the Metroplex. It will no doubt rise to a mighty roar as more gun humpers hear about this and their heads explode.

442
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:01:22am

re: #434 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless you can explain what open/concealed carry has to do with any “well regulated militia”…

Well, it’s Obama’s gun grab! See. It’s happening.

443
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:02:37am

re: #440 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ha! I got this one:

[Embedded content]

Billioanire

ballonaire

444
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:03:08am

Considering the state of his finances now, he didn’t follow his own advice.

445
Shiplord Kirel  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:05:53am

Sheesh!
NC woman pours vodka in boy’s eyes at hotel pool, kicks officer in groin, police say

A North Carolina woman was arrested on a charge of child abuse after police say she poured vodka on the eyes and head of a 7-year-old boy who had splashed water on her at a hotel pool.

Clearwater police say Roseanna Marie Kiser, 23, was intoxicated and was drinking from a bottle of vodka in the pool area at the Sheraton Sand Key Hotel at 1160 Gulf Blvd. in Clearwater Beach. Several young children were swimming and playing in the pool.

Kiser became angry at a 7-year-old boy because he splashed water near her. She opened her bottle of vodka and poured some of it onto the boy’s eyes and face. She then grabbed the boy around the chest and pushed him further away from her into the pool, according to an arrest affidavit.

Kiser kicked a police officer in the groin with her heel when he was arresting her, according to the affidavit.


Looks like she’s had some vodka in her eyes, too. Since she crotch-kicked a cop and is still alive, you probably knew without looking that she is white.
446
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:05:57am
447
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:06:07am

re: #444 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Considering the state of his finances now, he didn’t follow his own advice.

[Embedded content]

The Buffet thing right?

448
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:06:44am

I share my apartment with a gecko, one who wandered in from outside one day and now hides out most of the day. But every once in a while I catch of glimpse of him out of the corner of my eye. Someday I’ll snap a photo of the critter to share here.

He just came out from behind the TV.

449
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:07:04am

re: #445 Shiplord Kirel

Sheesh!NC woman pours vodka in boy’s eyes at hotel pool, kicks officer in groin, police say

Embedded Image

Looks like she’s had some vodka in her eyes, too. Since she crotch-kicked a cop and is still alive, you probably knew without looking that she is white.

Florida man meet North Carolina woman, we think you’d be perfect for each other.

450
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:08:06am

re: #445 Shiplord Kirel

She looks pretty hammered.

451
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:09:09am

re: #449 HappyWarrior

Florida man meet North Carolina woman, we think you’d be perfect for each other.

you beat me to that line…

452
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:11:57am

Image: FP_WYMAN_CHOCCHIP_AP_001.jpg

453
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:13:48am

re: #452 Nyet

Image: FP_WYMAN_CHOCCHIP_AP_001.jpg

Which First Lady bakes the best cookies? Film at 11.

455
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:15:25am

From 2014:

456
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:15:37am

re: #452 Nyet

Image: FP_WYMAN_CHOCCHIP_AP_001.jpg

Oh the days of yore, 1992.

457
Ming5000  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:16:06am

re: #448 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I share my apartment with a gecko, one who wandered in from outside one day and now hides out most of the day. But every once in a while I catch of glimpse of him out of the corner of my eye. Someday I’ll snap a photo of the critter to share here.

He just came out from behind the TV.

Uh huh….

458
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:17:22am

re: #457 Ming5000

Uh huh….

Embedded Image

Hey! I don’t talk to it!

Well, not anymore, after he criticized my cooking skills.

459
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:18:38am

Retweeted by Rosario Dawson:

460
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:20:07am

Lee Camp, the shithead on Putin’s payroll, seems to be a rising star among the DoucheBros of all sexes.

His face sure fits the role.

Image: 2AfhwTwC.jpg

461
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:20:22am

A lesson in “actions have consequences”

Rapey Brock Turner’s Lady Defender So Sad No One Wants To Listen To Her Band Now

Back when I was a young’un, most of our ladybands were pretty unhappy about rape. At least the ones I listened to, anyway. In fact, after Mia Zapata of The Gits (still the best ever) was raped and murdered on a Seattle street, many of those bands and artists bound together to start Home Alive, an organization that offers self-defense classes for women.

But maybe the kids today are different? Or at least one of them is, anyway! Yeah, probably just the one. Because when Leslie Rasmussen of the band “Good English” found out that her good childhood buddy Brock Turner raped a woman in an alley, she responded by defending him! In a letter of support she urged the judge to not fall prey to “political correctness” and to understand that Brock was “not a monster,” but was simply just too drunk to know he wasn’t sposed to rape anybody.

Here is a live video of the trio:

Good English Live At Blind Bobs

462
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:20:57am

I think one of the things Bernie should have squashed early on was the “Bernie or Bust” idea. While he might think he’s the better candidate, it should have been about his ideas, not him. I just don’t know if he saw the distinction, or just didn’t realize the damage making him the message would cause.

463
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:22:44am

High school valedictorian in Texas gives graduation speech, and tells everyone she’s an undocumented immigrant. She gets a standing ovation.

crooksandliars.com

464
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:22:52am

re: #462 Belafon

Squashed? He’s proud of it.

littlegreenfootballs.com

465
makeitstop  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:23:59am

re: #461 Dr. Matt

A lesson in “actions have consequences”

Rapey Brock Turner’s Lady Defender So Sad No One Wants To Listen To Her Band Now

Here is a live video of the trio:

[Embedded content]

They’re kinda…not that good.

I guess someone likes them, though.

466
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:24:45am

re: #463 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

High school valedictorian in Texas gives graduation speech, and tells everyone she’s an undocumented immigrant. She gets a standing ovation.

crooksandliars.com

And the comment threads at FreeRepublic and Breitbart go nuts, Internet shuts down.

467
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:25:19am

re: #453 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Which First Lady bakes the best cookies? Film at 11.

Hillary Clinton on “baking cookies”

468
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:25:30am

re: #459 Nyet

Retweeted by Rosario Dawson:

[Embedded content]

Stein and McKinney weren’t the first either. And I’m sorry it is a big deal when a major party nominates a woman. And secondly, she has won. I’m sure Rosario considered Obama the nominee this time eight years ago. Just because you don’t like who the nominee is going ot be doesn’t get to change the facts. And as for the kleptocracy, prove that Hillary is going to keep the rich rich and the poor poor. Really prove it.

469
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:26:22am

re: #455 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

From 2014:

Tweets like this are what will make American Greater again.

470
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:27:10am

re: #468 HappyWarrior

There’s a good diary on the DKos wreck list:

Once and for all: Hillary Clinton is NOT corrupted by Wall Street

471
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:28:19am

re: #463 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

High school valedictorian in Texas gives graduation speech, and tells everyone she’s an undocumented immigrant. She gets a standing ovation.

crooksandliars.com

I saw that. She’s probably going to get a lot of threats because of this. People need to stop viewing undocumented immigrants like dangerous criminals. She’s going to do very well for herself in college. A 4.5 GPA? Are you kidding me? I never knew anyone with a GPA that high.

472
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:28:52am

re: #469 Sir John Barron

Tweets like this are what will make American Greater again.

How does frumpy & little read chancellor Andrea Merkel keep her job? She is totally irrelevant!

[Not a real quote]

473
Ming5000  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:30:22am

474
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:30:53am

re: #470 Nyet

There’s a good diary on the DKos wreck list:

Once and for all: Hillary Clinton is NOT corrupted by Wall Street

Good diary.

475
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:31:17am

re: #471 HappyWarrior

I saw that. She’s probably going to get a lot of threats because of this. People need to stop viewing undocumented immigrants like dangerous criminals. She’s going to do very well for herself in college. A 4.5 GPA? Are you kidding me? I never knew anyone with a GPA that high.

I reckon her school boosts credits for honors and AP classes. Mine did. IIRC, marks for AP classes were multiplied by 1.3.

Yeah, she’s going to Yale. Smart and brave young lady.

476
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:31:18am

re: #471 HappyWarrior

I saw that. She’s probably going to get a lot of threats because of this. People need to stop viewing undocumented immigrants like dangerous criminals. She’s going to do very well for herself in college. A 4.5 GPA? Are you kidding me? I never knew anyone with a GPA that high.

I think the new measure for high schools, at least here in Texas, is to make a 90 a 4.0. Now, because of honor classes, the top kids at my son’s high school can have GPAs above 5.

477
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:33:19am

re: #475 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I reckon her school boosts credits for honors and AP classes. Mine did. IIRC, marks for AP classes were multiplied by 1.3.

Yeah, she’s going to Yale. Smart and brave young lady.

Oh I know. I knew people with GPAs over 4 but I never knew anyone with a 4.5, that’s impressive. She’s going to do very well for herself.

478
withak  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:33:42am

re: #476 Belafon

I think the new measure for high schools, at least here in Texas, is to make a 90 a 4.0. Now, because of honor classes, the top kids at my son’s high school can have GPAs above 5.

Pfft, that’s nothin’. My high school GPA was 10.8.

479
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:33:56am

re: #476 Belafon

I think the new measure for high schools, at least here in Texas, is to make a 90 a 4.0. Now, because of honor classes, the top kids at my son’s high school can have GPAs above 5.

That does make sense. Obviously still nothing to sneeze at as I’m sure you agree.

480
Ming5000  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:37:38am

Looks Like Bernie is in the White House right now. WP

The senator from Vermont came to the White House around 11 a.m. for a meeting with Obama and had an early afternoon get-together planned on Capitol Hill with Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), who has sought to play the role of peace broker at the end of a contentious nominating contest between Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

I hope the results are good. This thing can turn so right so fast if Bernie is amenable.

481
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:37:48am

re: #479 HappyWarrior

That does make sense. Obviously still nothing to sneeze at as I’m sure you agree.

Definitely not. I just have a kid in high school, and his GPA is 4.2something, and we’re trying to figure out how it’s at that level. And both of theirs are because they work hard. We were just trying to figure out how some of his not exactly stellar grades (lousy Spanish teacher this year) are allowing him to be above 4.

482
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:39:13am

re: #480 Ming5000

Big baby has to be placated with sweets or it will throw a tantrum.

483
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:39:39am

re: #466 Sir John Barron

And the comment threads at FreeRepublic and Breitbart go nuts, Internet shuts down.

I read a few comments at Zombie Breitbart. They are vile…..as expected.

484
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:40:41am

re: #483 Dr. Matt

I read a few comments at Zombie Breitbart. They are vile…..as expected.

You could have an article about a racial minority winning the Congressional Medal of Honor and it would turn into a racist derp storm at Breitbart. Breitbart pretty much is Stofrmfront these days.

485
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:41:36am

re: #480 Ming5000

Looks Like Bernie is in the White House right now. WP

I hope the results are good. This thing can turn so right so fast if Bernie is amenable.

Bernie has the opportunity to be a hero and cement his legacy. Let us hope that he doesn’t put himself ahead of the Party and Country.

486
Ming5000  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:41:52am

re: #482 Nyet

Big baby has to be placated with sweets or it will throw a tantrum.

Yes, it seems his ego is in charge. He has a lot to be proud of. He can garner a lot of gain from what he has done and continue on a positive note. The downside, if he is really going to Bern it down, is pretty severe for him and his legacy.

487
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:42:29am

re: #486 Ming5000

Yes, it seems his ego is in charge. He has a lot to be proud of. He can garner a lot of gain from what he has done and continue on a positive note. The downside, if he is really going to Bern it down, is pretty severe for him and his legacy.

And possibly for the country. And the world.

488
gocart mozart  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:43:32am
489
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:45:07am
A dear friend, a man who I’ve known and loved for many decades, put up a post today on Facebook in which he wished, quite sincerely, that Hillary Clinton would meet a gruesome and violent death. He provided details.

dailykos.com

I could say that he should get everything he wishes on her, but I won’t.

490
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:45:22am

re: #471 HappyWarrior

I saw that. She’s probably going to get a lot of threats because of this. People need to stop viewing undocumented immigrants like dangerous criminals. She’s going to do very well for herself in college. A 4.5 GPA? Are you kidding me? I never knew anyone with a GPA that high.

Another girl admitted she was undocumented on Twitter, and got a lot of shit for it, because she’s got a full ride to UT-Austin and some soreheads don’t think illeagles should pay in-state tuition or even go to a state uni.
vocativ.com

491
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:45:27am

Hopefully the meeting goes well. Bernie needs to realize that he’s not going to be the nominee and he shouldn’t except VP or honestly a cabinet post.

492
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:46:25am

The rub is that even if Obama and Reid convince him to wind things down, Bernie really can’t until DC is over. If he walked out today and said it’s time to start the general election, he’d lose all influence over the “Bernie or Bust” people. So, we stuck in this mode until Tuesday.

493
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:47:45am
The latest Rasmussen Reports weekly White House Watch survey shows Clinton taking a four-point lead over Trump - 42% to 38% - among Likely U.S. Voters.

And we know how much those polls are worth.

494
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:48:00am

re: #490 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Another girl admitted she was undocumented on Twitter, and got a lot of shit for it, because she’s got a full ride to UT-Austin and some soreheads don’t think illeagles should pay in-state tuition or even go to a state uni.
vocativ.com

What drives me nuts is when they call these people criminals. We discussed this last night but I think many White non Hispanics have no idea how easy immigration and naturalization was for most of our ancestors. Not talking about discrimination because certainly those groups did face that too but as far as naturalization goes. Oh and my German born great grandfather was on the War Rationing Board in WWII, meanwhile wingnuts think Arab-Americans are unpatriotic but I doubt there were many questions if any at all about Great Grandpa.

495
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:48:25am

re: #493 Nyet

And we know how much those polls are worth.

Ramussen IIRC is pretty Republican friendly.

496
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:48:32am

re: #360 ObserverArt

Nope, nothing wrong with the nations infrastructure. That bridge only grows more busy every year and still nothing is being done for the future. If they have some big issues and need to shut that bridge down it is going to kill travel in the area and a lot of business. I think it carries close to 200,000 vehicles a day. Yeah…no big need there!

Planning? What’s that?

I’d like all elected people to play a few rounds of Civ or SimCity at hard levels before they sit down to start working.

497
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:49:17am

AP has a photo.

I think Bernie might be smiling, but it’s hard to tell.

498
gocart mozart  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:49:29am
499
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:49:32am

re: #494 HappyWarrior

Whatever one calls the parents, the kids’ decisions were obviously made for them, so the label wouldn’t apply in any case.

500
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:50:06am

re: #492 Belafon

The rub is that even if Obama and Reid convince him to wind things down, Bernie really can’t until DC is over. If he walked out today and said it’s time to start the general election, he’d lose all influence over the “Bernie or Bust” people. So, we stuck in this mode until Tuesday.

I’m fine with Bernie waiting until Tuesday but after D.C’s results come in. He needs to drop it and tell his supporters that we need to focus on beating Trump right now. If he doesn’t do this, I’m all for the Democratic leadership doing all it can do to end his political career. He wants to play hardball, he should get hardball. I don’t want it to come to this but Bernie needs to get the emssage.

501
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:51:00am

re: #474 HappyWarrior

Good diary.

I like this part….politics and policy making is not easy and is always messy.

Hillary voted for a version of the bankruptcy bill after working with Congress to include amendments directly addressing Elizabeth Warren’s concerns about the bill — specifically those regarding women and children. The bill then went to the Republican-controlled House, which removed the amendments protecting women and children. When the bill was sent back to the Senate, Democrats [including Hillary] filibustered the bill. Later, a finalized version of the bill passed without Hillary’s support.

502
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:51:07am

re: #498 gocart mozart

What does the picture show?

503
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:52:16am

re: #502 Belafon

What does the picture show?

504
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:52:36am

re: #499 Nyet

Whatever one calls the parents, the kids’ decisions were obviously made for them, so the label wouldn’t apply in any case.

Exactly, I have sympathy for the parents too especially those who left countries like El Salvador who were in a Civil War that the United States was involved in.

505
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:52:54am

re: #500 HappyWarrior

I’m fine with Bernie waiting until Tuesday but after D.C’s results come in. He needs to drop it and tell his supporters that we need to focus on beating Trump right now. If he doesn’t do this, I’m all for the Democratic leadership doing all it can do to end his political career. He wants to play hardball, he should get hardball. I don’t want it to come to this but Bernie needs to get the emssage.

Agree.

I should also state that he could have ended his campaign Tuesday night and still had influence. I just don’t think he knows how to stop.

506
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:53:25am

re: #503 Franklin

Embedded Image

Susan B. Anthony’s headstone with an I voted sticker and a newspaper headline of Clinton’s achievement.

507
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:54:23am

re: #505 Belafon

Agree.

I should also state that he could have ended his campaign Tuesday night and still had influence. I just don’t think he knows how to stop.

Right, hopefully Obama will talk some sense into him. He needs to be told that he’s lost fair and square.

508
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:55:05am

re: #373 ObserverArt

They do seem to be momma nature’s animal gymnasts.

They are indeed.

509
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:55:54am

Very interesting read. In short, the Trump campaign to GOTV at the state level is pretty much non-existent.

Trump’s ground game? Let the state parties get out the vote, but don’t talk to ‘em or fund ‘em

Meanwhile, RNC officials still aren’t even sure where the campaign has already deployed staffers. Trump’s field organization is a patchwork of aides, some paid, some retained on a volunteer basis and many left over from the Republican primaries. While he has campaign chiefs in Florida — and solidly blue states like Washington and New York — in crucial battlegrounds including Ohio and Colorado, Trump doesn’t have so much as a state director.

And what’s happening in places like Michigan, one of some 15 states The Donald has promised to flip? Here’s the scoop from Michigan Republican Party communications director, Sarah Anderson.

“I think we will hear from them, but this campaign is just different than what’s been typical,” Anderson said. “I don’t think we’re surprised to not hear from them at this point. I think they’re just not there yet.”

510
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:57:32am

re: #506 HappyWarrior

Susan B. Anthony’s headstone with an I voted sticker and a newspaper headline of Clinton’s achievement.

Oops sorry! Thought maybe just the tweet was blocked. If the image I posted was blocked as well, then I apologize. Thanks Happy Warrior!

511
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:57:35am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

As someone who shared that article over at my Facebook feed stated, “That could be a speech from Heath Ledger’s Joker.”

Some people just want to see the world burn.

512
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:57:54am

I’ll be picking blueberries and black raspberries this weekend.
Found a ripe one of each today (and ate them both…mmmm..tasty!)
Green beans, tomatoes, squash and tomatillos all have flowers.

Looking like it’s going to be a good growing season.

Still need to check on the shiitake mushroom log stacks up in the woods but, since the stacks are new, I don’t really expect to see the first mushroom crop until end of summer.

513
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:58:10am

Larissa Martinez: “They told me I couldn’t, and so I did.”

Damn fine speech.

514
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:58:43am

re: #509 Dr. Matt

Trump doesn’t have any money to devote to GOTV, but he’s going to plunk chips down to try and turn NY red. Yeah, you read that right. In a state with massive Democratic party demographic advantages (2-1 registration, large minority populations, more liberal base), Trump’s going to chase after votes when he’s neck and neck in states historically safe for Republican candidates.

I say good. Let him throw money away and screwing his party’s GOTV. This is what happens when the GOP elects the natural outcome of their know-nothing anti-reality positions.

515
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:59:14am

re: #513 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Larissa Martinez: “They told me I couldn’t, and so I did.”

Damn fine speech.

Send her back, potential rapist and drug dealer. And should she go to law school and become a judge, she would be incapable of ruling against any Republican.

/

516
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:59:42am
“I spoke with Secretary Clinton yesterday and look forward to meeting with her in coming days to work together to beat Trump.”

OK, we’ll see.

517
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:59:43am

‘Tis 1 am here, so I will bid you all adieu now.

518
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:59:44am

re: #512 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll be picking blueberries and black raspberries this weekend.
Found a ripe one of each today (and ate them both…mmmm..tasty!)
Green beans, tomatoes, squash and tomatillos all have flowers.

Looking like it’s going to be a good growing season.

Still need to check on the shiitake mushroom log stacks up in the woods but, since the stacks are new, I don’t really expect to see the first mushroom crop until end of summer.

Blueberries have become my favorite fruit to eat. They’re so good for you and they’re versattile.

519
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 9:59:50am

re: #403 Birth Control Works

Sorry, BULLSHIT

ALL ADULTS are the gatekeepers of morality.

It is unfair to all genders to put such a responsibility on one gender.

It is our responsibility to become ADULTS in this world and contribute as best we can as we can. Any belief system that allows one gender to fail at any facet of adulthood is inherently unfair to that gender.

Maybe then we wouldn’t have entitled assholes (and yes, I am speaking to you mr Stamford swimming asshole) raping women - and getting away with it.

520
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:00:23am

re: #516 Nyet

OK, we’ll see.

Okay, that’s a good start.

521
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:01:08am

re: #515 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Send her back, potential rapist and drug dealer. And should she go to law school and become a judge, she would be incapable of ruling against any Republican.

/

Seriously, i wonder what she’ll end up doing after graduation from Yale. Something terrific, I bet.

522
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:01:24am

re: #518 HappyWarrior

Blueberries have become my favorite fruit to eat. They’re so good for you and they’re versattile.

We have 50 blueberry bushes and, this year, they are so loaded with fruit they are bending over to the ground.

523
Stanley Sea  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:02:22am

Oh Bernie.

524
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:02:31am

re: #510 Franklin

Oops sorry! Thought maybe just the tweet was blocked. If the image I posted was blocked as well, then I apologize. Thanks Happy Warrior!

Thanks for the image. Twitter is blocked at work, and so I cannot see embedded images.

525
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:02:46am

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

We have 50 blueberry bushes and, this year, they are so loaded with fruit they are bending over to the ground.

We had a cherry tree like that. I could lie on the ground beneath it, reach up and bend the branches down to my mouth…

526
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:03:24am

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

We have 50 blueberry bushes and, this year, they are so loaded with fruit they are bending over to the ground.

Plenty of Blueberry cobbler for you!

527
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:03:27am

re: #430 Nyet

So, the Kochs are meeting up with Donnie. Not clear which side will kiss… the ring.

[Embedded content]

Since the Kochs can buy and sell Donald 100x over, I think we know who…but it would be a thing of beauty to behold. Oh, to be a fly on the wall!

528
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:04:30am

re: #501 Franklin

I like this part….politics and policy making is not easy and is always messy.

Ugh, that bankruptcy bill. I’d be hardpressed to think of another example that so better illustrated the utter contempt the teabag party has for poor people.

529
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:05:01am

re: #519 MsJ

Maybe then we wouldn’t have entitled assholes (and yes, I am speaking to you mr Stamford swimming asshole) raping women - and getting away with it.

I wrote a dramatic monologue this spring from a female rape victim’s perspective for Creative Writing Class. We had to write from the opposite sex’s perspective. I decided to do a rape victim because I’m tired of people especially other men making light of rape.

530
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:05:12am

re: #526 HappyWarrior

Plenty of Blueberry cobbler for you!

and pie, muffins, pancakes, jam…

531
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:05:30am
532
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:05:33am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

and pie, muffins, pancakes, jam…

Yep.

533
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:06:39am

re: #531 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Jill Stein will commence in attacking Bernie in 3…2…1. Anyhow good for Bernie. I mean that.

534
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:08:17am

If Bernie is actually disarming, good. For unity’s sake I will even tone down the rhetoric ;)

535
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:08:38am
536
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:10:11am

re: #446 lawhawk

Let me show you my shocked face!

Oh wait. I’m not surprised in the least.

537
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:10:29am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

Their obsession with Target bathrooms is fucking creepy.

538
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:11:27am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Yeah this is an adult response to a private entity choosing to allow transgendered people to use the bathroom. Really get the fuck over it, you transphobic losers.

539
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:11:42am

re: #537 Dr. Matt

Their obsession with Target bathrooms is fucking creepy.

They always take derp to a new level.

540
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:11:53am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s not facing criticism, that’s dealing with terrorism.

541
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:12:17am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

Media: a small, almost bomb like thing did some damage but no biggie at a Target which is getting lots of criticism for letting men in little girls bathrooms.

/

542
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:12:56am

“The tree of liberty must occasionally be watered with the blood of women in order to prevent trans women from peeing.”

543
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:13:57am

Caption:

Hail Hydra. Hail Hydra. /

544
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:15:51am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

In CHICAGO? Wow.

545
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:17:59am
546
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:18:08am

I think Bernie gets it. I really do. I think he does and I understand have a desire to have his issues heard at the convention and I really think the choices that the DNC made for the platform commtitee like Cummings, Frank, and Malloy were good oens.

547
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:18:31am

re: #545 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

SAD!

548
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:19:07am

Whoa boy. I got someone quoting H.A fucking Goodman in my timeline.

549
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:20:03am

re: #509 Dr. Matt

Very interesting read. In short, the Trump campaign to GOTV at the state level is pretty much non-existent.

Trump’s ground game? Let the state parties get out the vote, but don’t talk to ‘em or fund ‘em

And what’s happening in places like Michigan, one of some 15 states The Donald has promised to flip? Here’s the scoop from Michigan Republican Party communications director, Sarah Anderson.

550
withak  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:20:31am

re: #544 MsJ

In CHICAGO? Wow.

Yeah, that makes me feel sorta unsafe (or afraid for my wife and daughter) in Minnesota Target locations…

551
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:22:58am

Which Progressive Website Editor Is Secretly Supporting Donald Trump?

Today The Daily Beast published an article titled “Anarchists for Donald Trump—Let the Empire Burn” in which the freelance journalist Christopher Ketcham explains the logic of certain progressive voters, including himself, who intend to vote for the presumptive Republican nominee in November. A sampling:

What’s needed now in American politics is consternation, confusion, dissension, disorder, chaos — and crisis, with possible resolution — and a Trump presidency is the best chance for this true progress. This is a politics of arson. I’d rather see the empire burn to the ground under Trump, opening up at least the possibility of radical change, than cruise on autopilot under Clinton.

I’m willing to bet it rhymes with Zalon.

552
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:26:51am

re: #551 Dr. Matt

Which Progressive Website Editor Is Secretly Supporting Donald Trump?

I’m willing to bet it rhymes with Zalon.

You don’t get true or any kind of progress with those things they describe. You may get a lot of regression though and some terrible judges appointed to the Supreme Court but hey let’s have a pity party because we can’t accept that our candidate lost fair and square so we feel we have to destroy the village in order to save it. I’ve had enough of the far left’s arrogant attitude. This is exactly why you’ve never succeeded in American politics because you’d rather enable an actual fascist than support someone who you have some disagreements with. No different than the idiotic German Communists who attacked the German Social Democrats as the German Social Fascists and helped enable Hitler’s rise.

553
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:27:02am

re: #551 Dr. Matt

Which Progressive Website Editor Is Secretly Supporting Donald Trump?

I’m willing to bet it rhymes with Zalon.

yeah that would be fun. we may not know what that would involve. Some people might lose their jobs, their health care, maybe even die. who knows. but it would sure be exciting. and maybe eventually we would get on the path to real change that I prefer.

//

554
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:27:15am

re: #551 Dr. Matt

Which Progressive Website Editor Is Secretly Supporting Donald Trump?

I’m willing to bet it rhymes with Zalon.

If people just want chaos, give me their address, and I’ll burn down their house.

555
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:28:40am

It must be nice to dream of revolution from your desk at Salon while the rest of us have family and friends or even ourselves would be negatively impacted by a Trump presidency but hey the status quo sucks, bring on the possible revolution that we don’t even know will succeed.

556
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:30:53am

re: #552 HappyWarrior

Only rich White guys (and Susan Sarandon) could want chaos and anarchy whose wealth will keep them insular from the dangerous decisions/polices of a Trump presidency. Principled assholes like this gave us dubyah and GOP majorities, because they stayed at home as a “protest” against the establishment. Fuck these assholes.

557
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:30:55am

re: #543 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Caption:

Hail Hydra. Hail Hydra. /

Needz moar ‘Kick Me’ sign.
//

558
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:31:57am

re: #551 Dr. Matt

This is a politics of arson. I’d rather see the empire burn to the ground under Trump

quoting Katniss Everdeen, if the world burns, you’re going to burn with it.

559
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:32:21am

re: #556 Dr. Matt

Only rich White guys (and Susan Sarandon) could want chaos and anarchy whose wealth will keep them insular from the dangerous decisions/polices of a Trump presidency. Principled assholes like this gave us dubyah and GOP majorities, because they stayed at home as a “protest” against the establishment. Fuck these assholes.

It just infuriates me. They have no regard for anyone else but hey at least they got their principles. Principles mean so much when we have a right wing majority on the Supreme Court when we could have had a sensible majority.

560
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:33:26am

Revolutions should be as rare as possible. They shouldn’t be temper tantrums thrown by people who don’t like reality. I’ll say it again. Leftist Bernie or Busters suffer from the privilege of easy disillusionment.

561
gwangung  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:34:24am

re: #553 Sir John Barron

yeah that would be fun. we may not know what that would involve. Some people might lose their jobs, their health care, maybe even die. who knows. but it would sure be exciting. and maybe eventually we would get on the path to real change that I prefer.

//

And it’ll take A LOT MORE EFFORT to regain that lost ground.

562
Kragar  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:35:47am

I understand not all people are Downfall parody fans, but this is funny.

Hitler finds out Bernie Sanders lost the election

“Anyone who has not retweeted HA Goodman articles, leave now.”

“My Furher, Clinton is up in votes as well.”
“LIES! You are a fucking shill and paid by Correct The Record!”

563
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:38:05am

You have the privilege of easy disillusionment when you can complain about Obama not pushing for universal health care and ignoring your fellow Americans who thanks to ACA cannot be denied coverage. You have the privilege of easy disillusionment when you complain about Obama’s FP ignoring that the US’s reputation among our allies has improved after the Bush years. You have that when you complain about the Democratic Party taking money from Wall Street and ignore that many people on Wall Street are genuinely decent people trying to make a living. Yeah I’ll defend people on WS, some of them are crooks sure but some of them are people just making a living. I’ve hated the Republican attacks on federal workers and I’ll defend people on WS who are doing their jobs and not breaking the law. It’s the privilege of easy disillusionment that allows Obama to be accused by Susan Sarandon of selling the left out when you’ve never have had to deal with an opposition party that has wanted you to fail from the start.

564
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:38:49am

re: #562 Kragar

I understand not all people are Downfall parody fans, but this is funny.

[Embedded content]

Video

“Anyone who has not retweeted HA Goodman articles, leave now.”

“My Furher, Clinton is up in votes as well.”
“LIES! You are a fucking shill and paid by Correct The Record!”

I think the issue was having Bernie as Hitler in these.

565
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:39:11am
566
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:40:07am
567
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:42:59am

re: #549 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump NY Chair told CNN Trump will win NY by “conventional GOTV efforts and blanketing the upstate region with signs & bumper stickers.”

Oh, please, please, please make this happen in all 50 states.

568
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:43:29am

re: #562 Kragar

Yeah that was pretty good. the cats are giving me the eye here at home from my laughing.

569
withak  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:44:46am

re: #564 HappyWarrior

I think the issue was having Bernie as Hitler in these.

Not in this one; just a big Bernie fan.

570
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:46:14am

re: #569 withak

Not in this one; just a big Bernie fan.

Oh I knoww, I should have clarified that I found it funny. I find most of these funny. To rant though, that was an incredible movie. Apparently Ganz prepped for the role by listening to one of the few audio tapes of Hitler talking in a regular voice.

571
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:47:43am

re: #560 HappyWarrior

Revolutions should be as rare as possible. They shouldn’t be temper tantrums thrown by people who don’t like reality. I’ll say it again. Leftist Bernie or Busters suffer from the privilege of easy disillusionment.

Too many damn people glorify revolution. It’s words to them…a concept. It’s not hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dead family members. It’s so far removed from reality that they make it noble in their minds.

Ok, asshole…you first. You get shot through the stomach a few times…then decide if you still want revolution. You’re still alive to determine just how glorious it all is and whether you still think it’s a good thing.

572
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:48:12am

re: #549 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I just visited the upstate region when I went to visit my folks. It already is blanketed with signs and bumper stickers (even selling knock off Trump 16 shirts in souvenir shops) but if that’s their plan it’s gonna fail and i will lol.

573
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:48:13am

re: #570 HappyWarrior

Oh I knoww, I should have clarified that I found it funny. I find most of these funny. To rant though, that was an incredible movie. Apparently Ganz prepped for the role by listening to one of the few audio tapes of Hitler talking in a regular voice.

Ganz is terrific in this and other movies as well.

574
Jenner7  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:48:18am
575
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:48:18am

My new favoritest gif:

576
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:48:53am

re: #567 MsJ

Oh, please, please, please make this happen in all 50 states.

I don’t imagine that Trump is actually popular at all in NYC. I also don’t imagine he knows that.

577
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:48:55am

re: #574 Jenner7

OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE OF ALL OUTRAGES!!!!!!

578
gwangung  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:50:08am

re: #575 Backwoods_Sleuth

My new favoritest gif:

[Embedded content]

If that’s all she has to do, I’d get behind that enthusiastically.

579
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:50:18am

re: #571 MsJ

Too many damn people glorify revolution. It’s words to them…a concept. It’s not hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dead family members. It’s so far removed from reality that they make it noble in their minds.

Ok, asshole…you first. You get shot through the stomach a few times…then decide if you still want revolution. You’re still alive to determine just how glorious it all is and whether you still think it’s a good thing.

There is a reason why most stable Democratic countries have had few revolutions. I remember a brother of a friend as early as 2000 saying it would be neat if there was another Civil War based on ideology and I just wanted to smack the kid. No concept at all on how terrible the Civil War was for this country. The revolutionaries are the same in how inconsiderate they are. It’s all about ideological purism to them.

580
Le Lapin Tueur  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:50:44am

re: #566 Backwoods_Sleuth

Eli Johnson
A bunch of men who should LITERALLY be grateful that they are fucking within their own species always have the most to say about the attractiveness of women.

Says it all

581
Archangelus  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:50:55am

Courtesy of The Oatmeal:

“Remember being a kid on the Fourth of July, when your parents bought fireworks from that shady roadside shack?
Remember that night when you lit them off, and one of them fell over?
Remember it spewing sparks and flames in random directions?
Remember watching it flounder and spin chaotically on the ground?
Rembmer not being sure whether to point and laugh or run for your life… due to the very real possibility that this firework might horribly burn you, your family or set fire to all the trees?
That firework is Donald Trump. “

The Oatmeal - Fireworks

582
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:51:08am

re: #574 Jenner7

The system is rigged!!!!

583
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:51:15am

re: #562 Kragar

Not a fan, but this one was good.

584
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:51:17am

re: #573 Sir John Barron

Ganz is terrific in this and other movies as well.

I saw him in Boys From Brazil where in that he’s a professor who explains to Laurence Olivier the science behind cloning. I haven’t seen him in anything else though. He reminds me of Anthony Hopkins who it turns out also played Hitler.

585
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:51:20am

re: #565 lawhawk

Wow. That video of that schmuck arguing Obama is racist. Just fucking wow.

586
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:52:01am

re: #574 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Good.

587
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:52:27am

re: #566 Backwoods_Sleuth

Christie “weighs in on attractiveness” …

Laughed myself into a massive coughing fit.

588
Lidane  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:53:16am
589
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:53:18am

re: #574 Jenner7

OK then, I’ll shut up about Bernie.
Eyes on the prize.

Bernieorbusters though? Fair game.

590
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:53:35am

re: #587 MsJ

Christie “weighs in on attractiveness” …

Laughed myself into a massive coughing fit.

Now you know how I feel when Mr. Universe, Rush Limbaugh gives his opinions on the beauty of women.

591
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:54:20am

re: #588 Lidane

[Embedded content]

They want to escape him but it’s going to be difficult. The leadership may hate his bigoted crap if only for selfish reasons but the base doesn’t mind it at all. Try to take the nomination from him and those people aren’t going to be happy.

592
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:55:03am

re: #589 Nyet

OK then, I’ll shut up about Bernie.
Eyes on the prize.

Bernieorbusters though? Fair game.

I’m good with Bernie now. Bernie or Busters on the other hand can kiss the hairest part of my ass with their refusal to accept the democratic process and outright lies.

593
Kragar  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:55:19am
594
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:55:20am
595
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:55:50am

re: #576 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t imagine that Trump is actually popular at all in NYC. I also don’t imagine he knows that.

If that tweet above about not a single person waving at Trump is true, my heart is soaring. My biggest desire is that his name becomes so toxic that no business will ever want anything to do with him (other than the Stormfront crowds - but that ain’t gonna keep him in his supposed billionaire bracket). I know people have short memories so all I am asking for is 5 years. That should do the trick.

(PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE)

596
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:56:17am

re: #594 Nyet

TURN THE MACHINES BACK ON!!!!!!

597
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:56:38am

re: #592 HappyWarrior

Won’t say I’m good with him, I’ll just try not to say outloud what I think. Being pragmatic here.

598
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:56:49am

re: #594 Nyet

If I could get on twitter, he would get a dozen tweets of “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA” from me.

599
InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:56:52am

re: #594 Nyet

Dude needs to lay off the brown acid. He’s doing permanent damage.

600
I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:57:05am

re: #576 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t imagine that Trump is actually popular at all in NYC. I also don’t imagine he knows that.

Herpes is unpopular in NYC, but not as much as Trump.

601
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:57:07am
602
Big Beautiful Door  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:57:53am

re: #564 HappyWarrior

I think the issue was having Bernie as Hitler in these.

There was one a few years ago skewering Charles over Glen Beck boiling a frog. I’m not sure what he thought of it, but I thought it was funny as hell. Sometimes its good to laugh at yourself.

603
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:58:04am

re: #593 Kragar

Shaun King is desperately searching for the original creation timestamp on that video…

604
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:58:17am

People who say they want a revolution, on either the Right or the Left, just assume that it will only impact them positively, that everyone who matters will join in and they’ll sweep to victory and everyone will get their pony. And they don’t expect anything worse than inconvenience while it’s ongoing.

Take the ‘Article 5 Convention’ folks. They all think that 1) the Convention will only deal with THEIR issues, in THEIR preferred way, and 2) that it WON’T change anything else, like, say, the 2nd Amendment. Essentially, they want a Convention of the States to do things like get rid of Nancy Pelosi for them, but not take their guns or codify things like Marriage Equality. And for a lot of them, it’s basically about enshrining white supremacy while whites can still dominate.

On the Left, the folks who say they want revolution just don’t have the persistence that it takes to get actual shit done, so they want it served to them on a platter. They piss on incremental progress and are willing to risk it and all that it means to tens of millions of Americans, in hopes of getting the whole ball of wax all at once.

605
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:58:25am

re: #593 Kragar

We will win.

606
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:58:39am

re: #597 Nyet

Won’t say I’m good with him, I’ll just try not to say outloud what I think. Being pragmatic here.

Yeah maybe good isn’t the best word here. In any case, yes pragmatism.

607
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:58:39am

re: #571 MsJ

Too many damn people glorify revolution. It’s words to them…a concept. It’s not hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dead family members. It’s so far removed from reality that they make it noble in their minds.

Ok, asshole…you first. You get shot through the stomach a few times…then decide if you still want revolution. You’re still alive to determine just how glorious it all is and whether you still think it’s a good thing.

I think they’re confusing the light revolution that could possibly occur if we could implement all of the solutions Bernie proposes all at once with the violence it would take to undo the damage a Trump presidency would cause for the next 20+ years.

608
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 10:59:40am

re: #594 Nyet

#StruggleContinues t.co No, Bernie Sanders Shouldn’t Concede. He Can Still Win, Despite What Media Says.
— H. A. Goodman (@HAGOODMANAUTHOR) June 9, 2016

Sorry. This trumps anything the PUMAs ever did. She has now crossed into completely fucking delusional territory.

609
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:01:19am

re: #602 Big Beautiful Door

There was one a few years ago skewering Charles over Glen Beck boiling a frog. I’m not sure what he thought of it, but I thought it was funny as hell. Sometimes its good to laugh at yourself.

It’s very good to laugh at yourself, something I think Charles can do though is lost on Beck. Some of my favorite Simpsons parodies are when they’ve poked fun at the left. I was watching the episode where Sideshow Bob runs for mayor and the Limbaugh character parody said that Ted Kennedy lacked integrity and Carl was annoyed by that. Plus the character of Mayor Quimby himself is a parody of the Kennedy men and I always enjoy it. I liked Manbearpig on South Park too and Team America and apparently a lot of the left leaning celebs spoofed in that movie did too notably Clooney, Baldwin, and Damon.

610
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:01:27am

re: #594 Nyet

He’s posting the same nonsense 10 times to Sunday. Guy is seriously unhinged. Mental.

611
InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:01:30am

re: #604 Blind Frog Belly White

Susan Sarandon seems to think “The Revolution” will be like a movie and someone will hand her an Oscar at the end.

612
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:01:58am

re: #594 Nyet

[Embedded content]

What’s H.A going to say when Bernie in fact does concede?

613
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:02:04am

Bernie Sanders can win despite what Bernie Sanders says! Stop lying, Bernie, you’re the winner!

614
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:02:17am

re: #610 lawhawk

He’s posting the same nonsense 10 times to Sunday. Guy is seriously unhinged. Mental.

He seriously thinks you can wish an indictment.

615
Nyet  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:02:20am

re: #612 HappyWarrior

See #613.

616
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:03:00am

re: #593 Kragar

That was awesome.

I am going to cry when he leaves office. I have never been prouder of an American president as I am with Obama.

617
Kragar  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:03:57am

re: #612 HappyWarrior

What’s H.A going to say when Bernie in fact does concede?

“BUT SHE IS GOING TO BE INDICTED!”

618
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:04:24am

When you wish upon an indictment
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires
Will come to you
If your heart is in your dream
No request is too extreme
When you wish upon an indictment
As dreamers do
Fate is kind
THE REVOLUTION brings to those to love
The sweet fulfillment of
Their secret longing
Like a bolt out of the blue
Fate steps in and sees you through
When you wish upon an indictment
Your dreams come true

619
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:04:35am

re: #617 Kragar

“BUT SHE IS GOING TO BE INDICTED!”

SOON!!!!!!!

620
Kragar  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:04:39am
621
Big Beautiful Door  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:05:12am

re: #609 HappyWarrior

It’s very good to laugh at yourself, something I think Charles can do though is lost on Beck. Some of my favorite Simpsons parodies are when they’ve poked fun at the left. I was watching the episode where Sideshow Bob runs for mayor and the Limbaugh character parody said that Ted Kennedy lacked integrity and Carl was annoyed by that. Plus the character of Mayor Quimby himself is a parody of the Kennedy men and I always enjoy it. I liked Manbearpig on South Park too and Team America and apparently a lot of the left leaning celebs spoofed in that movie did too notably Clooney, Baldwin, and Damon.

Team America is awesome.

622
Alephnaught  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:05:17am

Hang on, isn’t one of the Trump University cases officially known as “Schneiderman v. Trump Entrepreneur Initiative LLC, 400965-2012”?

Why, yes it is.

Trump “bilked people out of millions of dollars,” Schneiderman said on ABC’s
“Good Morning America” — one of several television interviews Thursday in response to Trump’s recent defense of the school. “We’re going to make sure he pays it back.”
The state’s top legal official said in an earlier TV appearance that Trump had offered to settle with the state over Trump University. Instead, Schneiderman filed a lawsuit in 2013.

Hmm, wonder how well that turned out?

623
InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:05:28am

re: #612 HappyWarrior

What’s H.A going to say when Bernie in fact does concede?

Probably something like… “SELLOUT ESTABLISHMENT! ARGLE BARGLE RABBLE RABBLE”

624
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:07:02am

re: #608 Dr. Matt

Sorry. This trumps anything the PUMAs ever did. She has now crossed into completely fucking delusional territory.

I thought it was a “he”. No matter, s/he crossed that line days ago if not longer.

625
No Depression  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:07:32am

re: #593 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I’m not gonna lie, I started to tear up watching that. Obama is a class act, and he will be sorely missed. But I’m excited to cast my ballot for Hillary Clinton in November to build on the progress he’s made. We face a lot of serious problems in this country, but I think things are looking up.

626
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:07:59am

re: #620 Kragar

I see. Obama’s been behind this the whole time, suppressing the vote, etc.

///

627
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:08:00am

re: #612 HappyWarrior

What’s H.A going to say when Bernie in fact does concede?

I don’t know, but I think there may be a syringe and straight-jacket involved.

628
makeitstop  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:08:11am

re: #608 Dr. Matt

Sorry. This trumps anything the PUMAs ever did. She has now crossed into completely fucking delusional territory.

H.A. is a he.

But, yeah. Delusional.

629
Jenner7  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:08:21am
630
Le Lapin Tueur  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:10:08am

re: #629 Jenner7

I do believe this will be the start of a very large, very hot burn.

631
Kragar  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:10:42am
632
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:10:46am

re: #621 Big Beautiful Door

Team America is awesome.

It is. I remember some of the ultra lefties I knew back then hating it because it made fun of the left but it also poked fun at the right too. i

633
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:11:03am

re: #631 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Huffing the same paint as Shaun and H.A I guess.

634
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:11:07am

re: #630 Le Lapin Tueur

I do believe this will be the start of a very large, very hot burn.

It’s going to be beautiful! The best and biggest burn. You’ve never seen a burn this big. It will be YOOOOOOGE!

635
Kragar  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:11:10am
636
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:11:10am

Oh, is this gonna be great. Trump’s clearly reading the wrong map (Blue as Red and Red as Red). Thinks he can win states that have solidly gone Democratic for years on end. This is his strategy?

No wonder some politically savvy GOPers are apoplectic. They know a blowout when they see one.

637
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:12:36am

re: #635 Kragar

I like the bit in that graphic that says it all - Bernie needs 855 out of 714 remaining delegates.

In other words, it was impossible for him to ever win.

638
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:13:09am

re: #636 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Oh, is this gonna be great. Trump’s clearly reading the wrong map (Blue as Red and Red as Red). Thinks he can win states that have solidly gone Democratic for years on end. This is his strategy?

No wonder some politically savvy GOPers are apoplectic. They know a blowout when they see one.

Maybe he is colorblind.

639
Kragar  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:13:36am

re: #636 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Oh, is this gonna be great. Trump’s clearly reading the wrong map (Blue as Red and Red as Red). Thinks he can win states that have solidly gone Democratic for years on end. This is his strategy?

No wonder some politically savvy GOPers are apoplectic. They know a blowout when they see one.

“CA IS IN PLAY!”

In what fantasy universe does this happen?

640
Big Beautiful Door  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:13:48am

re: #562 Kragar

I understand not all people are Downfall parody fans, but this is funny.

[Embedded content]

Larger

“Anyone who has not retweeted HA Goodman articles, leave now.”

“My Furher, Clinton is up in votes as well.”
“LIES! You are a fucking shill and paid by Correct The Record!”

How can you not be a Downfall parody fan? That was hilarious!

641
No Depression  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:13:51am

re: #636 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Oh, is this gonna be great. Trump’s clearly reading the wrong map (Blue as Red and Red as Red). Thinks he can win states that have solidly gone Democratic for years on end. This is his strategy?

No wonder some politically savvy GOPers are apoplectic. They know a blowout when they see one.

642
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:14:13am

re: #635 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I’d love to find out what Shaun thought in June of 2008. See, this is what kills me about the Bernie Buster types complaining about the SDs. We know damn well that if Bernie were the one ahead in acutal pledged delegates, tehy’d be urging Clinton to drop out, ehll they already do urge Clinton to drop out now while she’s ahead in delegates. Shaun doesn’t care about the fact that a vast majority of Democrats favor Clinton. He wants his pony at all cost and he doesn’t care if he shits on the votes of other people to get it. He’s acting like a totalitarian.

643
Kragar  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:15:03am
644
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:15:52am

re: #637 lawhawk

I like the bit in that graphic that says it all - Bernie needs 855 out of 714 remaining delegates.

In other words, it was impossible for him to ever win.

I totally missed that. LMAO! Thanks!

645
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:15:55am

re: #637 lawhawk

I like the bit in that graphic that says it all - Bernie needs 855 out of 714 remaining delegates.

In other words, it was impossible for him to ever win.

But the Superdelegates will be swayed by polling of a candidate that has never had opps research thrown his way. Someone here made the observation the other day that Bernie’s polls right now close to his ceiling. Teh Republicans haven’t gone after Bernie yet and make no mistake they would. They’d make this a third Red Scare and liken Bernie to Stalin and Mao. Would it be correct? No, but would they? Absolutely.

646
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:16:13am

re: #639 Kragar

“CA IS IN PLAY!”

In what fantasy universe does this happen?

CAnada!

647
Le Lapin Tueur  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:16:31am

re: #636 lawhawk

MD in play. Seriously, is the man totally insane? There is no way that we will go for Trump. Western MD is the only area that he may win, and sorry, it is an insignificant voting block. Montgomery, Anne Arundel, Prince Georges, and Howard counties are the population centers and they are hard democratic areas.

648
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:17:47am

re: #431 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

WeSearchr is the new home for prosecution futures.

649
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:17:59am

re: #647 Le Lapin Tueur

MD in play. Seriously, is the man totally insane? There is no way that we will go for Trump. Western MD is the only area that he may win, and sorry, it is an insignificant voting block. Montgomery, Anne Arundel, Prince Georges, and Howard counties are the population centers and they are hard democratic areas.

Wouldn’t the Eastern Shore go his way too? My cousin lives in OCMD. A lot of her neighbors she says are pretty right wing. But yeah there’s no way in hell he wins Maryland.

650
Big Beautiful Door  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:18:02am

re: #645 HappyWarrior

But the Superdelegates will be swayed by polling of a candidate that has never had opps research thrown his way. Someone here made the observation the other day that Bernie’s polls right now close to his ceiling. Teh Republicans haven’t gone after Bernie yet and make no mistake they would. They’d make this a third Red Scare and liken Bernie to Stalin and Mao. Would it be correct? No, but would they? Absolutely.

Its a GOP fantasy to get to run against a real live self-professed socialist. Socialism is not popular in the US.

651
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:18:49am

re: #645 HappyWarrior

But the Superdelegates will be swayed by polling of a candidate that has never had opps research thrown his way. Someone here made the observation the other day that Bernie’s polls right now close to his ceiling. Teh Republicans haven’t gone after Bernie yet and make no mistake they would. They’d make this a third Red Scare and liken Bernie to Stalin and Mao. Would it be correct? No, but would they? Absolutely.

No, the supers will be swayed into picking a guy who has never actually led in the delegate count or popular vote at any time during the race. The whole question of momentum is nonsense, since even his 7 state run of wins didn’t close the gap any closer than it had been during Super Tuesday in March. Yeah, that’s what they’re left trying to argue.

And momentum lasted until NY, where Hillary thrashed him. And Hillary repeated that with the PR win, double digit NJ and CA wins, and will win DC for good measure.

652
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:19:35am

re: #650 Big Beautiful Door

Its a GOP fantasy to get to run against a real live self-professed socialist. Socialism is not popular in the US.

Not just a socialist but a socialist who has shown he’s not into pragmatism and compromising. Honestly, I look at it this way, if I as a staunch liberal have my worries about ohw Bernie will be able to implement a lot of his programs and honestly have some questions about their effectiveness how the hell is that supposed to play with more moderate voters?

653
Le Lapin Tueur  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:19:54am

re: #649 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t the Eastern Shore go his way too? My cousin lives in OCMD. A lot of her neighbors she says are pretty right wing. But yeah there’s no way in hell he wins Maryland.

Yeah, probably. But, again an insignificant population. OC has something like 15k voters. Trump will (probably) get the Purdue voting block.

654
No Depression  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:20:08am

re: #649 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t the Eastern Shore go his way too? My cousin lives in OCMD. A lot of her neighbors she says are pretty right wing. But yeah there’s no way in hell he wins Maryland.

It would definitely go Trump’s way. Our asshole Congressman Andy Harris is part of the Freedumb Caucus.

655
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:20:48am

re: #651 lawhawk

No, the supers will be swayed into picking a guy who has never actually led in the delegate count or popular vote at any time during the race. The whole question of momentum is nonsense, since even his 7 state run of wins didn’t close the gap any closer than it had been during Super Tuesday in March. Yeah, that’s what they’re left trying to argue.

And momentum lasted until NY, where Hillary thrashed him. And Hillary repeated that with the PR win, double digit NJ and CA wins, and will win DC for good measure.

He got very lucky in early March. A lot of very undiverse states with caucuses. It’s honestly been a catch up game for him ever since he lost South Carolina. His entire campaign sicne that day has been a series of one step forward, two steps back.

656
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:22:02am

re: #654 No Depression

It would definitely go Trump’s way. Our asshole Congressman Andy Harris is part of the Freedumb Caucus.

A shame really. I think that part of Maryland is beautiful. But yeah no way Trump wins Maryland. Bush was a lot more competent and likable than Turmp and still got 43%.

657
Jenner7  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:23:15am
658
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:23:30am
659
Lidane  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:23:36am
660
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:24:21am

re: #653 Le Lapin Tueur

Yeah, probably. But, again an insignificant population. OC has something like 15k voters. Trump will (probably) get the Purdue voting block.

Oh no doubt. I am not disagreeing with your accessment, it’s just when you said only Western Maryland would go Trump’s way that I thought you were ignoring the Eastern Shore which I think will go his way too. Maryland’s going for Clinton. Went big for Clinton.

661
Kragar  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:24:50am
662
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:25:04am

Oh, and the sitting president who just endorsed Hillary Clinton?

Turns out he’s a pretty popular guy these days.

That compares with the GOP, whose favorability ratings are only slightly higher than a dumpster fire (and that dumpster fire is Trump).

If you don’t think having a popular sitting president out there helping you win elections on your behalf, you’re not paying attention.

All the talk of Trump having closed on polling will disappear the moment the next post-Obama endorsement poll comes out.

That’ll sell papers of course, and there’s a lot that can happen between now and November.

So it’s no time to be complacent. GOTV is everything. Especially for down-ballot tickets.

663
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:25:15am
664
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:26:38am

re: #659 Lidane

[Embedded content]

A reminder that we’re not only go to miss Obama but also this gent. I can’t imagine Biden’s counterparts Palin or Ryan doing this at all. Joe Biden is one of the most genuinely decent people in politics. It still breaks my heart that he won’t be President because I think he would be a great one. It’s not that I dislike Clinton, it’s just that Joe Biden to me more than anyone exemplifies so much of what my philosophy is all about.

665
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:27:00am

re: #659 Lidane

[Embedded content]

I know kids who get grounded longer than that just for getting bad grades.

666
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:27:15am

re: #629 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

This is so great!
667
Romantic Heretic  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:27:31am

re: #571 MsJ

Too many damn people glorify revolution. It’s words to them…a concept. It’s not hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dead family members. It’s so far removed from reality that they make it noble in their minds.

Ok, asshole…you first. You get shot through the stomach a few times…then decide if you still want revolution. You’re still alive to determine just how glorious it all is and whether you still think it’s a good thing.

I think Americans like to think of revolution as a positive thing because the American Revolution was such a big success.

But America got lucky that time and there’s no guarantee they’ll be that lucky twice.

668
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:27:59am

re: #665 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I know kids who get grounded longer than that just for getting bad grades.

That’s not a slap on the wrist. That’s a tap on the wrist. Unbelievable. This is a joke but ehy those feminazis should just shut up.

669
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:28:32am

re: #667 Romantic Heretic

I think Americans like to think of revolution as a positive thing because the American Revolution was such a big success.

But America got lucky that time and there’s no guarantee they’ll be that lucky twice.

We got very lucky with that one. We also got very lucky with the election of 1800.

670
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:29:28am

re: #631 Kragar

[Embedded content]

But The Hispanics LOVE him! They’re going out and registering in huge numbers! That can only be good for him, right?
////

671
Stanley Sea  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:30:24am

re: #665 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I know kids who get grounded longer than that just for getting bad grades.

They released today that he lied to the judge & judge didn’t care.

Usually that’s a big no-no. But Stanford. But athlete.

672
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:30:26am

re: #659 Lidane

Joe Biden ladies and gentlemen:

I do not know your name—but thanks to you, I know that heroes ride bicycles.

673
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:30:31am
674
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:30:36am

BWAHAHAA!

675
makeitstop  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:30:46am

re: #661 Kragar

[Embedded content]

What’s the term I’m thinking of…. monomania, is it?

676
Lidane  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:31:25am

I’m pretty sure the Republican party would rather have another four years of Obama instead of nominating this idiot.

677
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:32:52am
678
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:33:12am

re: #674 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA!

[Embedded content]

Countdown until Trump is on Twitter crying that if Momma Trump were still here, she’d show that bully Hillary. I think she may actually make him have a breakdown.

679
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:33:51am

Not to be a douche, but we (everyone, not YOU we) need to lighten up on Trump until the convention. We *WANT* him as their candidate.

I fear that he has shot his load and they are going to make him go.

680
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:33:59am

re: #678 HappyWarrior

Countdown until Trump is on Twitter crying that if Momma Trump were still here, she’d show that bully Hillary. I think she may actually make him have a breakdown.

not seeing a downside to that.

:D

681
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:34:46am

re: #679 MsJ

Not to be a douche, but we (everyone, not YOU we) need to lighten up on Trump until the convention. We *WANT* him as their candidate.

I fear that he has shot his load and they are going to make him go.

If they make him go, then it will really get crazy for them.

682
lawhawk  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:34:48am
683
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:35:08am

re: #679 MsJ

Not to be a douche, but we (everyone, not YOU we) need to lighten up on Trump until the convention. We *WANT* him as their candidate.

I fear that he has shot his load and they are going to make him go.

That’s true but I think they won’t be able to stop it. The insiders may loathe Trump but the people of the base want him. There was a poll released and most Republicans do not see his attacks on the judge as racist.

684
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:35:49am

re: #680 Backwoods_Sleuth

not seeing a downside to that.

:D

Not at all just as long as he doesn’t take it out on innocent people but if he has a meltdown and goes ballistic on Roger Stone, Corey, and friends, find by me.

685
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:36:37am

re: #681 Backwoods_Sleuth

If they make him go, then it will really get crazy for them.

YEah, that’s what I am thinking. They’re sort of stuck here. The best they can do is distance themselves from him.

686
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:37:07am

re: #661 Kragar

[Embedded content]

This is like it used to be when the Giants were mathematically eliminated from the Playoffs, around the end of May, but people still went to the games.

687
Sir John Barron  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:37:10am

re: #671 Stanley Sea

They released today that he lied to the judge & judge didn’t care.

Usually that’s a big no-no. But Stanford. But athlete.

C’mon, man. This good kid has a future…

//

688
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:37:34am

Was already shared above, but the closing is moving:

689
Belafon  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:37:36am

re: #679 MsJ

Not to be a douche, but we (everyone, not YOU we) need to lighten up on Trump until the convention. We *WANT* him as their candidate.

I fear that he has shot his load and they are going to make him go.

They can’t make him leave. The Republican party convention would be the scene in Kingsman after the cell phone chips are activated.

690
Big Beautiful Door  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:37:47am

re: #667 Romantic Heretic

I think Americans like to think of revolution as a positive thing because the American Revolution was such a big success.

But America got lucky that time and there’s no guarantee they’ll be that lucky twice.

The second American Revolution (The Civil War) wasn’t so great.

691
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:38:39am

re: #681 Backwoods_Sleuth

If they make him go, then it will really get crazy for them.

They’d be officially writing off the White House and probably the Senate, and clinging to the desperate hope of retaining the House by the skin of their teeth.

692
Alephnaught  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:39:15am

re: #622 Alephnaught

Just noticed one of the replies to that tweet:

The whole resulting Tweet thread is a joy to behold.

693
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:39:33am

re: #691 Blind Frog Belly White

They’d be officially writing off the White House and probably the Senate, and clinging to the desperate hope of retaining the House by the skin of their teeth.

I think that’s what it will be and then they’ll rebrand once again they promise!

694
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:40:39am

re: #692 Alephnaught

Just boycotted one of the replies to that tweet:

[Embedded content]

The whole resulting Tweet thread is a joy to behold.

He really is the most thin skinned presidential candidate I’ve ever seen. Classic bully.

695
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:41:30am

the story behind that orange seagull I posted earlier today:

696
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:42:20am

LOL, the “Delete your account” has 25K retweets and 23K likes in 15 minutes.

697
Archangelus  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:43:14am
698
Big Beautiful Door  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:43:22am

If Trump can limit himself to racist attacks on groups and quit with the racist attacks on the judge or other individuals, the nomination is his. They won’t mind virulent misogynistic attacks on Clinton.

699
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:43:31am

I think she just rolls her eyes at Trump and thinks about how fucked up the Republican PArty electorate is to nominate such a big baby.

700
Franklin  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:43:49am
701
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:44:37am
702
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:44:43am

re: #698 Big Beautiful Door

If Trump can limit himself to racist attacks on groups and quit with the racist attacks on the judge or other individuals, the nomination is his. They won’t mind virulent misogynistic attacks on Clinton.

They certainly didn’t mind him mocking the reporter’s disability. It’s all about how it makes them look. Nate did a study of the NEver Trumps. A lot of them are in districts with more Hispanics. A lot of them are sweating like hell the idea of being tied with this guy and having Hispanic voters vote them out.

703
HappyWarrior  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:45:09am

re: #701 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

The tie will be indicted!

704
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:46:06am

re: #698 Big Beautiful Door

If Trump can limit himself to racist attacks on groups and quit with the racist attacks on the judge or other individuals, the nomination is his. They won’t mind virulent misogynistic attacks on Clinton.

I think the nomination is his regardless.

705
Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:51:27am

re: #674 The Vicious Babushka

Delete your account. t.co
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) June 9, 2016

BOOM! She sank his battleship!

706
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:52:11am

re: #695 Backwoods_Sleuth

the story behind that orange seagull I posted earlier today:

[Embedded content]

Still doesn’t explain Trump, but if HE fell in a vat of curry, there’d be a line around the GOP to throw him an anchor.

707
MsJ  Jun 9, 2016 • 11:52:23am

re: #696 Franklin

LOL, the “Delete your account” has 25K retweets and 23K likes in 15 minutes.

Trump has no idea who he is dealing with.

708
retired cynic  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:20:58pm

re: #368 Franklin

Christ…had to stop watching it. At work and the waterworks are starting.

My 8yo loves hearing about JFK. She knows that he, along with MLK and RFK were killed for their beliefs but I think even this is too heavy for her to watch.

I know this is way late to post, but RFK was my man, and I cried just thinking about watching it. Can’t.

709
Tigger2  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:22:18pm

re: #677 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

711
EPR-radar  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:50:47pm

re: #636 lawhawk

Not only is CA a safe blue state, it also has some of the most expensive media markets in the nation. If Trump put significant resources into CA, I’d view it as a sign that he really is playing to lose.

Nobody can be that stupid.

712
EPR-radar  Jun 9, 2016 • 12:55:44pm

re: #659 Lidane

One legal reform that might be worth considering in view of the Brock Turner rape case is to add a new category of statutory rape —- sex with someone who is too incapacitated to consent.

713
Jebediah, RBG  Jun 9, 2016 • 2:12:46pm

re: #478 withak

Pfft, that’s nothin’. My high school GPA was 10.8.

You’re supposed to divide by the number of classes…


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
Cheechako
2 days ago
Views: 89 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 258 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1