Friday Night Short Comedy: Let’s Not Panic

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An apocalyptic short comedy about love and neuroses, written and directed by Heather Jack

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2015 Tribeca Film Festival World Premiere
2015 Mill Valley Film Festival Official Selection
2015 Tacoma Film Festival Official Selection
2015 Heartland Film Festival Official Selection
2015 Napa Valley Film Festival Official Selection
2015 Underexposed Film Festival Director’s Choice
2016 Santa Barbara International Film Festival Official Selection
2016 Los Angeles Comedy Festival Official Selection

Cast: Lyle Friedman, John Anderson, Doug Moe, Griffin Newman, Shacottha Fields, Alexis Pereira
Producers: Mary Rohlich, Jacob Robinson, Devin Landin
Editor: Sara Shaw
Cinematographer: Mike Simpson
Co-Producer: Lacy Wittman
Production Designer: Maki Takenouchi
Costume Designer: Olga Mill
Composer: Ryder McNair
Casting Director: Seth White

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467 comments

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freetoken  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:47:18pm

All over social media the Drumpfskindanhangers are doing their best to prove that it’s not Drumpfskind who is the racist, but rather his detractors who are the real racists.

I wonder how successful this will be.

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A Cranky One  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:49:14pm

re: #1 freetoken

All over social media the Drumpfskindanhangers are doing their best to prove that it’s not Drumpfskind who is the racist, but rather his detractors who are the real racists.

I wonder how successful this will be.

DARVO has been a Republican staple for years. You can fool some of the people all the time.

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Teukka  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:51:45pm

re: #2 A Cranky One

DARVO has been a Republican staple for years. You can fool some of the people all the time.

Until your reach that very unpredictable juncture when it suddenly ceases to work.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:52:34pm
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freetoken  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:53:42pm

America, 2016:

Jimmy Carter visits planned Ark Encounter theme park in Kentucky

Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter on Friday visited Ark Encounter, an upcoming Williamston, Kentucky theme park inspired by the Biblical story of Noah and the flood.

[…]

Carter was reportedly invited to Ark Encounter by LeRoy Troyer, president of the construction company behind the Ark.

“They’re good friends,” said Answers in Genesis spokeswoman Melany Ethridge.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:54:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:55:24pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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That’s very cute. It almost is like a satirical headline because you know the comments aer full of racist and sexist derp towards women and minorities.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:56:07pm

re: #5 freetoken

America, 2016:

Jimmy Carter visits planned Ark Encounter theme park in Kentucky

Eh, Jimmy Carter has been an Evangelical Christian longer than I’ve been alive. There’s things I hold against him, but this isn’t going to be one of them.

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A Cranky One  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:56:52pm

re: #3 Teukka

Until your reach that very unpredictable juncture when it suddenly ceases to work.

Hasn’t failed Faux news yet. ;)

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Teukka  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:58:23pm

re: #9 A Cranky One

Hasn’t failed Faux news yet. ;)

That’s the point. It fails without its perpetrators ever see it coming, it even surprises concerned bystanders, the breaking point is that unexpected. :)

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:59:31pm

No, I don’t like the president of Turkey very much, thank you.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 10, 2016 • 8:59:46pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:01:14pm

Clint Eastwood Involved in Bar Fight in Hagerstown, Maryland

I wondered if he was arguing with an empty chair again, but this one wasn’t really empty.

The Younger Boy figured he was arguing with an empty chair, and broke another chair over its head.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:03:01pm

re: #13 Blind Frog Belly White

Clint Eastwood Involved in Bar Fight in Hagerstown, Maryland

I wondered if he was arguing with an empty chair again, but this one wasn’t really empty.

Mrs. FBW figured he was arguing with an empty chair, and broke another chair over its head.

Wonder why he’d be in Hagerstown. Not really a touristy spot or really an area that gets a lot of filming. I honestly felt bad for Clint ranting at that chair. I really hope he’s not backing Trump. He beclowned himself but from what I know about him, he’s not a bigot.

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A Cranky One  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:05:41pm

re: #10 Teukka

That’s the point. It fails without its perpetrators ever see it coming, it even surprises concerned bystanders, the breaking point is that unexpected. :)

I’d love to think so. Too cynical though.

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stpaulbear  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:11:04pm

re: #10 Teukka

That’s the point. It fails without its perpetrators ever see it coming, it even surprises concerned bystanders, the breaking point is that unexpected. :)

With that Breitbart headline that Charles posted, you know those guys see it coming, but it’s not like their business is about dispensing truth. They know where their money is coming from.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:15:23pm
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Kragar  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:16:47pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:17:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:19:18pm

re: #18 Kragar

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Easy answer, because Ryan has poor character and judgment, Meg. Oh and that Sarah Palin who you think was more experienced than Obama and Biden thinks the world of him too. Wait that may have been Fiorina that said that nonsense.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:20:28pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Easy answer, because Ryan has poor character and judgment, Meg. Oh and that Sarah Palin who you think was more experienced than Obama and Biden thinks the world of him too. Wait that may have been Fiorina that said that nonsense.

Tomato, potato.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:21:46pm

re: #21 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Tomato, potato.

I always did confuse them since they sought California’s governor and senate seat respectfully and both were CEOs and part of McCain’s economics advisery team IIRC. I don’t think Whitman is an big a failure at business as Fiorina is though.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:21:52pm

re: #17 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, Cameron did do that.

Not that there is any good political leader in the UK right now.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:22:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:25:10pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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If I didn’t know Mitt Romney was such a shitheel in his own right, he’d look downright statesmanlike there.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:27:18pm

If only there had been more guns present…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:27:51pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart

If only there had been more guns present…

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Always have a gun on stage. Sigh. Man that sucks.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:28:20pm

re: #18 Kragar

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Oh to be a fly on the wall at that retreat.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:33:10pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart

If only there had been more guns present…

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But good on Christina’s brother for tackling the slimeball. The shooter then proceeded to shoot himself, proving his cowardice.

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Kragar  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:36:58pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:37:06pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

But good on Christina’s brother for tackling the slimeball. The shooter then proceeded to shoot himself, proving his cowardice.

Yeah, too bad he had to shoot somebody else first instead of just offing himself at home.

Is it legal to carry at a concert in FL?

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:40:45pm

re: #31 stpaulbear

Yeah, too bad he had to shoot somebody else first instead of just offing himself at home.

Is it legal to carry at a concert in FL?

If the venue permits it, but even then you need a permit (CCW). Very few crapweasels like this one have a CCW.

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Lidane  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:41:46pm

re: #18 Kragar

Meg Whitman was a major fundraiser for Christie in the primaries. When he endorsed Trump, she went on an absolute tear. She was furious. It’s why Christie had to then get Trump to help him pay off his campaign debts. Whitman basically told Christie to DIAF.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:43:44pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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I don’t care who you are—that’s funny right there!

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:43:57pm

re: #31 stpaulbear

Yeah, too bad he had to shoot somebody else first instead of just offing himself at home.

Is it legal to carry at a concert in FL?

I don’t think so.

There’s a poll in the SD Union Tribune right now: Does the 2nd Amendment cover conceal carry? Yes is winning.

The UT is pretty much a RW fishwrap, since Papa Doug Manchester bought it. Seriously that guy uses the name Papa.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:44:14pm

re: #33 Lidane

Meg Whitman was a major fundraiser for Christie in the primaries. When he endorsed Trump, she went on an absolute tear. She was furious. It’s why Christie had to then get Trump to help him pay off his campaign debts. Whitman basically told Christie to DIAF.

No, she wanted Christie to take a long walk off a short pier. If he died in a fire, his fat would burn hot enough to add an extra alarm to said fire.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 9:50:29pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

I don’t think so.

There’s a poll in the SD Union Tribune right now: Does the 2nd Amendment cover conceal carry? Yes is winning.

The UT is pretty much a RW fishwrap, since Papa Doug Manchester bought it. Seriously that guy uses the name Papa.

A trumpster

papadougmanchester.com

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:00:23pm

Holy shit

According to interviews with the victim, elected officials, and sources close to OPD, in addition to documents obtained by the Express, at least fourteen Oakland Police officers, three Richmond Police officers, and four Alameda County Sheriff’s deputies had sex with the girl who goes by the name Celeste Guap. (The Express is not publishing Guap’s real name because she was a sexually exploited minor when the abuse began.)

Three Oakland police officers committed statutory rape of Guap when she was under-age. She says all of the law-enforcement agents who had sex with Guap knew she worked as a sex worker.

According to text messages between police officers and the victim, at least three OPD officers leaked her confidential information about undercover prostitution stings. One Oakland cop obtained police reports and criminal histories and shared them with the victim, which is against department policy. Guap also said she slept with cops as a form of protection.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:05:16pm

re: #31 stpaulbear

Is it legal to carry at a concert in FL?

That depends. Is Florida still an absurd caricature of a state?

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:10:42pm

For all of you living not living in a Southern State:

“I try not to judge people by the actions of their state government.”

From newyorker.com.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:11:24pm

OK, Meg is really mad at Chris…

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:14:36pm

LA live police chase

nbclosangeles.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:19:23pm

re: #41 FormerDirtDart

From the article:

According to Jim and Joanne, a couple from Southern California who declined to provide their last names, Whitman isn’t the only donor here considering Clinton. The summit attendees took an informal poll at lunch, with the room splitting evenly among Trump and Clinton supporters, they said.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:23:11pm

re: #43 klys (maker of Silmarils)

From the article:

Whoa if true!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:23:40pm

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:24:54pm

Casablanca gambling? I’m shocked!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:28:22pm

re: #46 Nyet

I’m sure it’s a very carefully controlled scientific poll too.

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:30:32pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:31:47pm

re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Whoa if true!

I suspect their reason is something like “Clinton for four year, then find a better candidate. Better than four years of Trump and possibly losing any chance for the next 20 years”

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:33:10pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

I suspect their reason is something like “Clinton for four year, then find a better candidate. Better than four years of Trump and possibly losing any chance for the next 20 years”

Or maybe, just maybe some of them have a few moral fibers.

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:33:52pm

“These guys are a lot smarter than I am, and if they’re endorsing [Trump], that’s kind of reassuring to me,” said Scott Keller, a donor from Utah who was at the summit and has decided to back Trump.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:34:59pm

re: #51 Nyet

There are days where it sucks to have ethics that prevent one from feeling comfortable parting a fool and his money.

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Kragar  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:35:17pm

re: #46 Nyet

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:35:46pm

re: #51 Nyet

“These guys are a lot smarter than I am, and if they’re endorsing [Trump], that’s kind of reassuring to me,”

—Curly Howard

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:37:31pm

re: #42 Stanley Sea

LA live police chase

nbclosangeles.com

Looks like they stopped and let a woman out, then continued on their way

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:37:40pm

Of course, Cenk is not pure enough.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:40:26pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

Looks like they stopped and let a woman out, then continued on their way

Coldwater Canyon.

Check @busblog he’s hilarious during these chases.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:42:01pm
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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:42:32pm

There’s a strong push for Warren as VP.

I don’t know. Warren seems to fit right in in what experience and temperament are concerned. But you can’t fully ignore the identity politics. Namely, a Hispanic VP (of whatever gender) would seal the deal. Two white candidates, maybe not.

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:46:39pm

Avoid the area within the 300 km radius. The BernieBro stench will be unbearable.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:48:46pm

When he entered CW Canyon

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:49:23pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

Coldwater Canyon.

Check @busblog he’s hilarious during these chases.

I did like the woman that bailed’s “I’m invisible” walk away from the car.

I actually tried that once in my youth, after bailing from a wreck at the end of a car chase through Astoria Queens.

No, it didn’t work

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:51:00pm

re: #59 Nyet

There’s a strong push for Warren as VP.

I don’t know. Warren seems to fit right in in what experience and temperament are concerned. But you can’t fully ignore the identity politics. Namely, a Hispanic VP (of whatever gender) would seal the deal. Two white candidates, maybe not.

I think 85-90% of voters will have no trouble voting for a woman for President nowadays. Two women, though? It shouldn’t make a difference, but I think it would. Enough people were willing to vote for a black candidate in ‘08—but just suppose Obama had chosen a black running mate? It sucks that you have to think about things like this, but you do.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:53:53pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

When he entered CW Canyon

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:54:28pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart

And I was just re-tweeted.

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:55:48pm

I’m glad it hurts this BernieBoy’s feefees.

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 10:56:39pm

re: #63 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think 85-90% of voters will have no trouble voting for a woman for President nowadays. Two women, though? It shouldn’t make a difference, but I think it would. Enough people were willing to vote for a black candidate in ‘08—but just suppose Obama had chosen a black running mate? It sucks that you have to think about things like this, but you do.

“How many women are too many on the Supreme Court?” - Ten - Notorious RBG

I can’t speak for other voters, but I have no problem voting for two well-qualified women. That would be me though, growing up the only male in my family. (I was the oldest at age fourteen.)

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:00:41pm

I have no clue who this young lady is, but this depresses the shit out of me.
I guess I have a heart…

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:02:29pm

And you’re say this vessel could have survived “The Great Flood”?

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:02:44pm

Oh, and Trump got the coveted endorsement of Roseanne Barr.

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:03:20pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart

And you’re say this vessel could have survived “The Great Flood”?

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The original could! /

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:04:23pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart

And you’re say this vessel could have survived “The Great Flood”?

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lol the hay

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:04:49pm

As for the issue of Identity Politics (right-wing dogwhistle for Liberals are Pandering to Those People):

Well, with a two-woman ticket, the majority of voters are women.

Plus, don’t the right wing noise makers already identify Senator Warren as a minority with a racist dogwhistle (Pocahontas)? /s

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:07:15pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

lol the hay

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:07:36pm

re: #73 Anymouse

I frankly doubt that the two-women thing would play a negative role. Two whites could.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:09:15pm

re: #70 Nyet

Oh, and Trump got the coveted endorsement of Roseanne Barr.

But not John Goodman’s, I’m morally certain.

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majii  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:09:17pm

re: #74 FormerDirtDart

I can’t believe someone spent money to build that thing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:10:37pm

re: #77 majii

I can’t believe someone spent money to build that thing.

Apparently not ENOUGH money.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:10:46pm

re: #60 Nyet

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Avoid the area within the 300 km radius. The BernieBro stench will be unbearable.

I can’t: I live in the Chicago area.

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Kragar  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:11:34pm

re: #70 Nyet

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:12:26pm

re: #60 Nyet

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:12:44pm

re: #77 majii

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

Apparently the Norwegian patrol vessel was moored
Image: AP_Norway_Ship_Crash_MEM_160610_4x3_992.jpg

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:13:18pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:13:53pm

re: #77 majii

I can’t believe someone spent money to build that thing.

When you could spend it on something like this:

SeaTrials of the Trireme Olympias

If anybody’s got a lot of money—we really don’t know how Hellenistic “fivers” and “seveners” and so forth were constructed. (Not to mention Ptolemy’s “forty”.)

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:16:12pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

I can’t: I live in the Chicago area.

a little dab of Vicks VapoRub under each nostril. Worked in Silence of the Lambs

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Kragar  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:16:52pm
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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:18:31pm

#82: Former Dirt Dart

Apparently the Norwegian patrol vessel was moored

Obviously the superior shipwright technology of Norway would have defeated the Ark in battle.

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:19:36pm

re: #86 Kragar

* Clintons

:P

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:20:21pm

re: #80 Kragar

Yeah Donald. Do your followers remember this?

CBS - 1990-07-26 - report on Roseanne Barr

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Kragar  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:20:55pm

re: #88 Nyet

Feh

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:23:33pm

That’s not a hotdog costume, it’s a single finger, a middle finder, standing erect, wrapped in a doughy coat of righteousness…

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:23:52pm

re: #89 GlutenFreeJesus

Yeah Donald. Do your followers remember this?

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As I recall, the wingnuts went off the rails over that performance, too.

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:23:57pm

re: #90 Kragar

Apo’strophe’s matte’r!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:25:02pm

re: #93 Nyet

Apo’strophe’s matte’r!

They prefer the term “metacommas” these days.

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ElaineBenis  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:25:39pm

I know that it’s too early, polls in June don’t matter, anything can happen, dems will fuck up etc etc etc but damn, wouldn’t this be sweet if it holds:

Poll shows Clinton leading in Kansas; broad dissatisfaction with Legislature

Oh how I would love to see Brownback’s many policy failures turn Kansas(!) blue. Karma, bitches.

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:27:17pm

re: #95 ElaineBenis

I know that it’s too early, polls in June don’t matter, anything can happen, dems will fuck up etc etc etc but damn, wouldn’t this be sweet if it holds:

Poll shows Clinton leading in Kansas; broad dissatisfaction with Legislature

Oh how I would love to see Brownback’s many policy failures turn Kansas(!) blue. Karma, bitches.

Maybe refugees will quit streaming north over the border into Nebraska.

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:32:56pm

Localised thunderstorms just popped up and knocked my DSL modem off-line.

Usually when that happens I have to fight with CenturyLink for four or five days to look into it, because they really don’t care about one customer a hundred miles out in the middle of nowhere.

Tonight it was back on-line in sixty seconds. (Maybe I got lucky, or maybe they got tired of giving me thirty days free service when it is out for more than 24 hours, which I always demand and get.)

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:34:22pm

OK, it must be time for bed, since the internet is wackier than my dreams…

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:36:12pm

Image: pox11f-4-web.jpg

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:36:29pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

OK, it must be time for bed, since the internet is wackier than my dreams…

I could totally see that where I live (followed by said cowboy curb-stomping the thief with his spur-equipped boots)

Then when done, taking off his cowboy hat and dusting off his pants with it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:38:30pm

re: #100 Anymouse

I could totally see that where I live (followed by said cowboy curb-stomping the thief with his spur-equipped boots)

Then when done, taking off his cowboy hat and dusting off his pants with it.

In the old days, a horse thief would have been strung up then and there. Bike pincher got off easy.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:38:50pm

I’m up way past my bedtime, allowing me to witness first hand my kit’s nighttime freak out. She’s kinda pissed I’m watching.

I snooze & miss a lot of her activity but I see the dishevelment every morning.

Pretty entertaining.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:39:35pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

OK, it must be time for bed, since the internet is wackier than my dreams…

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1 question, where’s the bike?

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:42:55pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

Another place where wingnuts (I don’t want the government telling me to do) and moonbats (it isn’t natural like real chickenpox) converge.

In 2012, I had a group of 4-H girls come Christmas carolling at my house. Turns out one of them had the mumps (it hadn’t exploded yet, but she was contagious).

I had the mumps when I was a child, but it turns out mumps does not always give lifelong immunity. In adults, the disease is very dangerous (fever of 105) and potentially fatal. Your bits (or ovaries if female) swell up to the size of oranges and hurt about as much as you can imagine.

Do you know how hard it is to sleep or sit when your bits are swollen up like oranges, and how many bags of frozen peas you put on them to relieve the pain?

I searched the Internet not knowing what I had but knowing it was likely contagious. When I came across the likely diagnosis (adult mumps), I called the Veterans Administration and asked them what to do. “Don’t come into the hospital! We’ll send a nurse out to care for you.”

My wife got a booster shot for mumps. I suffered for three weeks, five days with a fever over 103.

Yeah, vaccinate your kids. I don’t care about your special snowflake feelings, your kid almost killed me.

4-H does not come round my house in their annual Christmas carol sessions any more (grumpy atheist lives there or something)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:45:06pm

re: #104 Anymouse

It’s a sad comment on America when you’re safer from communicable diseases in so-called Third World countries than in the USA.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:47:11pm

Didn’t grab who’s retweet this was. I unfortunately follow a lot of Bernie Bros. Good people from the old days. I’m not going to do a purge, because someone said - they are heartbroken. I’ll wait & thin it out later.

But FYI

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:49:38pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

Didn’t grab who’s retweet this was. I unfortunately follow a lot of Bernie Bros. Good people from the old days. I’m not going to do a purge, because someone said - they are heartbroken. I’ll wait & thin it out later.

But FYI

I got an E-mail from the Democratic Party offering to pay for my airfare and a hotel room to attend the convention. (As far as I could tell it was real and not a scam.)

I will be in Canada, so I cannot go, and I am not sure I would want to go to a national party convention anyway (unless I am being nominated for President - like that would happen to a village trustee in a town of 128).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:54:55pm

re: #107 Anymouse

I got an E-mail from the Democratic Party offering to pay for my airfare and a hotel room to attend the convention. (As far as I could tell it was real and not a scam.)

I will be in Canada, so I cannot go, and I am not sure I would want to go to a national party convention anyway (unless I am being nominated for President - like that would happen to a village trustee in a town of 128).

Well, you’re about as qualified as Sarah Palin. I remember at the time, I thought to myself: “So she’s the executive of a political unit with the population of Tacoma. I don’t know who the mayor of Tacoma is, and I live in Seattle!” (Well, south—about 1/3 of the way there.)

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:55:10pm

Wonkette, with its usual aplomb in the comments section that is always NSFW, weighs in on Dr. Ben Carson’s statement to the press that Donald Trump is not a racist just because he makes racist statements. Dr. Carson notes that Donald Trump just says the first thing that pops into his head (an admirable trait in a President).

wonkette.com

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Anymouse  Jun 10, 2016 • 11:58:49pm

re: #108 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, you’re about as qualified as Sarah Palin. I remember at the time, I thought to myself: “So she’s the executive of a political unit with the population of Tacoma. I don’t know who the mayor of Tacoma is, and I live in Seattle!” (Well, south—about 1/3 of the way there.)

And like Sarah Palin, I can grift off the Canadian medical care system as she noted her family did on FOX News Channel.

(Really. I am having real trouble getting the necessary quantity of my epilepsy meds from the VA for my trip, because they are a controlled substance a couple states have illegally diverted into death penalty usage and Lundbeck restricts how many can be given out at a time in a death penalty state. I pointed out to the VA after two months of arguing with them that I will go to Canada anyway and run out in my first week. I have already contacted a lawyer about this who says there might be an issue with the VA opposing my ADA rights and my Right to Travel as found in numerous Supreme Court cases. I would really rather not have to sue the VA, but dayumn you would think they thought I was trying to steal their personal stash of Phenobarbital or something.)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:04:19am

Finally nighty time. Hope no earthquake wakes my ass up.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:04:20am

re: #110 Anymouse

And like Sarah Palin, I can grift off the Canadian medical care system as she noted her family did on FOX News Channel.

(Really. I am having real trouble getting the necessary quantity of my epilepsy meds from the VA for my trip, because they are a controlled substance a couple states have illegally diverted into death penalty usage and Lundbeck restricts how many can be given out at a time in a death penalty state. I pointed out to the VA after two months of arguing with them that I will go to Canada anyway and run out in my first week. I have already contacted a lawyer about this who says there might be an issue with the VA opposing my ADA rights and my Right to Travel as found in numerous Supreme Court cases. I would really rather not have to sue the VA, but dayumn you would think they thought I was trying to steal their personal stash of Phenobarbital or something.)

Look, I hate the death penalty as much as anybody, but that’s just stupid. Are people going to embargo Washington for rope, California for mothballs?

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majii  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:05:33am

re: #109 Anymouse

Carson is a sell-out. He has sold his soul to gain favor with those whom he admires. He claims to be a Christian but has no problem lying, deliberately offending others to advance his personal agenda, or with pretending that he doesn’t notice things like Trump’s racist attack on Judge Curiel. It didn’t take him long to say that blacks live on a “Democrat Plantation” because most of us vote for Dem politicians. It seemed to never have occurred to him that he was insulting a group of which he is a member. I guess he found it too difficult to develop a plan he could use to attempt to attract more minorities to the GOP, so he took the easy way out and began parroting the lies of others in his party. Some who have known him for decades have said recently that he has surprised them by the things he has said. I don’t think much of persons who choose to be dishonest and unethical to advance themselves or to find favor with a certain group.

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electrotek  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:07:57am

re: #68 FormerDirtDart

I have no clue who this young lady is, but this depresses the shit out of me.
I guess I have a heart…

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She died sadly.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:13:33am

re: #114 electrotek

She died sadly.

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That’s really sad. She was so young, and probably was starting a promising career. The man who shot her killed himself at the scene, so it be days (if ever) before we know why this happened.

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Anymouse  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:18:11am

re: #112 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Look, I hate the death penalty as much as anybody, but that’s just stupid. Are people going to embargo Washington for rope, California for mothballs?

Lundbeck Pharmaceutical is a Danish firm, and manufactures barbital-based medications. As such, Lundbeck is subject to European Union laws, which prohibit shipping goods such as drugs in support of the death penalty to any nation or US state that uses drugs in that manner. While Nebraska repealed the death penalty, there are about eight people on death row here whose sentences were not commuted to life in prison.

This was not a problem until Oklahoma and Virginia illegally diverted the drug to the death penalty after the American manufacturer of sodium thiopental quit making the drug because they did not want to be known as “Dr. Death.” (Free markets, how do they work? Not the way wingnuts think.)

Several states have since been caught up in illegal schemes to import sodium thiopental, including my state governor (being investigated now after UPS in India tipped off the DEA about an illegal shipment of the drug from India). With the inability to get the drug, Oklahoma and Virginia turned illegally to Phenobaribital.

One of the unsung first acts of President Obama’s administration was to get the EU to continue shipping the drug for those of us with epilepsy and certain other conditions that need it. The EU originally banned the sale of the drug nationwide. The EU put heavy restrictions on Lundbeck but Phenobarbital is still available.

If I lived in a civilised state that did not have the death penalty this would not be an issue.

The whole reason for the death penalty by lethal injection in the first place was to make it “humane” to appeal better to liberals (conservative pandering). They did not understand that liberals did not object to the method, they object to the death penalty in its entire.

I believe if a conservative state wishes to impose the ultimate violation of a person with state power, then the jury that sentences someone to die must witness their verdict carried out in person. I also believe it is a fundamental violation of the Constitution to exclude people from jury duty that are opposed to the death penalty.

(However, the conservatives in my state could give a hoot about what I think, and I get hung up on in senatorial or representative conference calls to constituents the moment I identify as a Democrat anyway.)

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:19:59am
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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:24:38am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:35:22am

Via:

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:37:21am

I can’t stop laughing at this:

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Anymouse  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:39:47am

Well, I am off to bed. Sweet dreams of a liberal victory raining down across the land in November, sweeping all the derp before it and into suitable recycling bins … the idea that Kansas might even be in play (yeah, I am aware of the accuracy of polling this far out) will drive some nice dreams tonight.

First Kansas, then Nebraska. (We did give one electoral vote to President Obama in 2012; could another district flip this time, and give Mrs. Clinton four of our five? Stay tuned for “Election Follies,” coming to a network near you in November.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:42:00am

re: #120 SoundGuy 2016

Bad lip reading: That’s {cough cough} great stuff!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:44:00am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:51:21am

Well, we had the escaped llamas…now Toronto is being terrorized by escaped capybaras.

Huge ‘Bonnie and Clyde’ Rodents Loose in Toronto

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:54:33am
His speech was a series of disconnected talking points; you could have cut up the sentences and rearranged them at random, and it wouldn’t have been any more or less coherent.

Michelle Goldberg at Slate

Despite the fear of what it could do to the free world, a Trump presidential campaign will be wonderful to watch. The carnage is going to be surreal if it already isn’t.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 1:01:50am

From the chronicles of brogressive sociopathy:

Fri, 06/10/2016 - 6:47pm — Shahryar

I know what I’ll say when I fill in my November ballot
As I’m coloring in the circle for Jill Stein I’ll be saying “$#%& you, Hillary!”

I might also be saying “and may God have mercy on my soul” because it could give us Trump but you know what? #$^ Hillary!

up
35 users have voted.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 1:07:41am

“Hold my beer and watch me vote for Stein.”

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2016 • 1:54:34am
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Alyosha  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:03:48am

re: #113 majii

I keep forgetting about Ben Carson. Remember that week he seemed to break out in the polls as the anti-Trump?
He’s definitely and odd and interesting tragic character.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:22:18am

Rage Furby claims his sources close to Martin Shkreli say the bloodsucker wants to buy Gawker Media.

Why am I not surprised that Shkreli and Chuck have mutual acquaintances?

Not sure if Shkreli wants to get in a bidding war with Ziff Davis, though.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:23:07am

re: #129 Alyosha

I keep forgetting about Ben Carson. Remember that week he seemed to break out in the polls as the anti-Trump?
He’s definitely and odd and interesting tragic character.

Kind of sad clown figure.

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Scout  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:24:06am

re: #120 SoundGuy 2016

I can’t stop laughing at this:

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Is there any way to download that so I can share it with some friends? Thanks in advance.

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Alyosha  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:33:14am

re: #131 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Kind of sad clown figure.

I know he lacks the introspection to see himself that way, but the character he projects is bizarre.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:37:10am

re: #133 Alyosha

I know he lacks the introspection to see himself that way, but the character he projects is bizarre.

I’ve wondered whether he’s suffering from some kind of psychological or medical problem requiring medication. Carson is preternaturally somnolent and prone to really off-the-wall remarks that make no real sense.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:39:15am

re: #126 Nyet

From the chronicles of brogressive sociopathy:

Shorter every Bernie Bro: “Voting is all about how the experience makes me feel. Me, me, me!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:42:40am

re: #135 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Shorter every Bernie Bro: “Voting is all about how the experience makes me feel. Me, me, me!

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Alyosha  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:43:29am

re: #134 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve wondered whether he’s suffering from some kind of psychological or medical problem requiring medication. Carson is preternaturally somnolent and prone to really off-the-wall remarks that make no real sense.

It’s strange to me that he’s not described in the media as ‘eccentric’. Fits perfectly.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:48:14am

Morning….
I’ve heard the term “Surgical Savant” kicked around. For someone so gifted in the medical arts, he sure seems ignorant to the most basic science.
I don’t get it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 2:52:24am

re: #137 Alyosha

It’s strange to me that he’s not described in the media as ‘eccentric’. Fits perfectly.

He doesn’t wear a boot on his head, or talk to an invisible bunny next to him, I guess.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:01:46am

re: #139 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He doesn’t wear a boot on his head, or talk to an invisible bunny next to him, I guess.

I think you have to be white to be “eccentric”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:02:51am

re: #140 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think you have to be white to be “eccentric”.

Part of white privilege, as it were.

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:05:47am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:21:03am

Charles, I need to correct your headline for the previous post about Gawker. Technically, Gawker is not suing Chuckie-poo and the other defendants, but is seeking injunctive relief from their various complaints against Gawker Media, et alia. IOW, Gawker is not seeing damages from them, but is exercising its right under bankruptcy law to have their actions postponed. It’s misleading to call it a lawsuit.

Given that Chucklehead never served Gawker after he filed his complaint in Fresno Superior Court, Gawker is probably just being prepared on the off chance that Chuck pulls his head from his ass and takes his lawsuit seriously.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:22:09am

My impulse is to laud the rare conservative who still loudly opposes Trump.

Then I remember that opposing Trump is as basic as wiping your butt or washing your hands.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:28:05am

re: #144 Nyet

My impulse is to laud the rare conservative who still loudly opposes Trump.

Then I remember that opposing Trump is as basic as wiping your butt or washing your hands.

The soft bigotry of low expectations…

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:29:36am

And it’s not like they are graceful in their opposition.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:32:17am

tbh I find it to be one of the stupider emojis.

Image: 1f64c-1f3fd.png

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Ming5000  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:49:09am

re: #106 Stanley Sea

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Didn’t grab who’s retweet this was. I unfortunately follow a lot of Bernie Bros. Good people from the old days. I’m not going to do a purge, because someone said - they are heartbroken. I’ll wait & thin it out later.

But FYI

I can understand the “heartbroken” part. My cousin was an avid HRC supporter in the 2008 battle, and when Obama ultimately won the nomination my cousin was truly devastated. I did not follow politics closely at the time and was an open Obama supporter so did not pick up on her pain at the time. One thing though, I never picked up a whiff of negativity toward Obama from her. I am troubled about how Bernie allowed the hate to percolate in his fans. I will always look at Bernie with coolness no matter what he does. He is deeply flawed and needs to seek help.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:49:22am

re: #147 Nyet

tbh I find it to be one of the stupider emojis.

Image: 1f64c-1f3fd.png

Two hands fighting over the last three Cheetos?

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 3:50:46am

Clinton Coat-astrophe
Outrage over an expensive Armani jacket worn by Hillary Clinton was peppered with inaccurate details.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 4:20:16am

And now Greta Christina is seriously warning people not to use the word “dumb” in the comments. Because it’s terribly ableist and stuff. Respect: ↓. Fuck these wannabe cultural commissars.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 4:27:08am

re: #151 Nyet

And now Greta Christina is seriously warning people not to use the word “dumb” in the comments. Because it’s terribly ableist and stuff. Respect: ↓. Fuck these wannabe cultural commissars.

The word “derp” is a no-no, too because it’s short for “herp-a-derp”, which is supposedly mocking mentally-challenged people. And the suffix -tard is right out, of course.

I can kind of understand the last one, but it doesn’t look like I’m going to stop saying “Teatard” and so on anytime soon….

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 4:29:28am

re: #152 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I don’t use “tard” myself and cringe when others use it. But “dumb” is not a medical condition…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2016 • 4:42:26am

re: #151 Nyet

Where’s this at?

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 4:44:43am

re: #154 Dave In Austin

the-orbit. net/greta/2016/05/24/some-things-will-get-comment-trashed

Also, please don’t use the word “dumb” in my blog or my social media. Here’s an explanation from Ania Bula about why.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 4:44:46am

re: #153 Nyet

I don’t use “tard” myself and cringe when others use it. But “dumb” is not a medical condition…

There are numerous venues where you can’t use the words “stupid” or “crazy” because it creates “splash damage” for people who actually do have diagnosable mental conditions. I’m sorry, I’m not a doctor, but I’m willing to bet that neither of those words appear in any official medical diagnosis. Neither do “idiot”, “imbecile”, or “moron”—any more, though they were once official psychological terms. IMO, they’re so lost in the mists of time that they’re just general vocabulary now.

“Mentally retarded” is a little different. Where I grew up, when I was in grade school, like 55 years ago, the term was already so radioactive that it was unusable. Euphemism creep had created it to replace “slow”, but by 1960 at least, it had been replaced by “special”. I hear people say “Well, isn’t that special?” all the time with no pushback, and that’s more recent than “retarded”. I understand that in some parts of the country, “mentally retarded” has been in actual use much more recently, however. I don’t use the full term as an insult.

I live in a country that’s being destroyed by stupid and crazy people, and the words stupid and crazy are really necessary to point that out.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 4:49:03am

re: #156 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Agreed. Those became general-purpose insults.

And while being stupid doesn’t make one a bad person, being stupid is a bad condition (unlike, say, being gay) - something strenuously denied by the purer-than-though crowd.

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Teukka  Jun 11, 2016 • 4:50:20am

re: #157 Nyet

Agreed. Those became general-purpose insults.

And while being stupid doesn’t make one a bad person, being stupid is a bad condition (unlike, say, being gay) - something strenuously denied by the purer-than-though crowd.

You could also go with an invented expression, e.g.
Retrobulbarly evacuated.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:12:02am

re: #151 Nyet

And now Greta Christina is seriously warning people not to use the word “dumb” in the comments. Because it’s terribly ableist and stuff. Respect: ↓. Fuck these wannabe cultural commissars.

“Ableist” — meaning people who are more capable at something denigrating people who aren’t? That makes a certain kind of sense in specific situations, such as me (a teacher) insulting a student who can’t solve a physics problem that takes me 2 minutes to solve. It doesn’t make sense in a broader sense, such as when scientists point out that denying climate change is both stupid and dangerous.

I’m reminded of that scene in Sleeper with the dancers confined with elastic bands so they can’t be too good.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:14:34am

re: #159 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Careful, your using the s-word shows you’re an ableist and basically no better than a racist.

/

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:19:04am

re: #127 Nyet

“Hold my beer and watch me vote for Stein.”

usually followed seconds later by “call an ambulance” and video proof /darwin

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Lidane  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:26:57am

Reince will be hitting the booze earlier than usual today:

“What I’m thinking about doing for the convention is rather [than] these politicians, you know — they’re gonna get up and speak and speak and speak,” Trump said at a rally in Richmond, Va., Friday. “You remember last time with [Mitt] Romney, all these politicians got up and they kept speaking and they didn’t mention Romney’s name. They spoke— one guy spoke for like 45 minutes. He never mentioned Romney’s name. He said, ‘Oh good luck by the way with the election,’ at the end, walked off.

“Well we’re going to do it a little differently, if it’s OK.”

“I’m thinking of getting some of the great sports people that I know that like me a lot and that I like,” Trump continued. “And not even sports — we may call it the winners’ evening.”

True fact: the bolded bit is a reference to Chris Christie’s failed keynote speech.

The convention is going to be a shitshow.

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Alephnaught  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:27:27am

Good day from Glasgow. I noticed Charles posted the following image by Dadu Shin on the thread downstairs:

Instagram

#Drumpf for the NYT

… Which to me looks like the cover for a album by The Aphex Twin:

Cover for “Richard D James Album” by The Aphex Twin

Hence this musical break:

(432Hz) Aphex Twin - Fingerbib - (Richard D. James Album)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:28:14am

re: #160 Nyet

Careful, your using the s-word shows you’re an ableist and basically no better than a racist.

/

Sometimes people are so overly sensitive about language that they parody themselves. I can understand why they do it, but they presume that every disabled person is going to damaged psychologically by certain words. Sure, “dumb” used to mean “mute,” but now most people understand it to mean “stupid.” Does that mean I can’t say, “What a dumb idea that was!” around a mute person? Or even at all?

“Ableism” suggests that someone with better skills or talent or knowledge cannot criticize or correct someone with weaker skills, etc. I can see why ad hominem attacks would be banned from comments, but making a blanket injunction against fairly common words goes way too far, in my view.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:30:15am

Matt Taibbi: The Democratic establishment ignores Bernie Sanders’ success at its peril

I suppose the Democratic Party should give Bernie his trophy:

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:30:45am

re: #164 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s a stupid plan

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:31:44am

re: #165 Dr. Matt

Matt Taibbi: The Democratic establishment ignores Bernie Sanders’ success at its peril

I suppose the Democratic Party should give Bernie his trophy:

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HILLARY CAME IN NEXT TO LAST!
BERNIE WON!

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:32:26am

re: #1 freetoken

All over social media the Drumpfskindanhangers are doing their best to prove that it’s not Drumpfskind who is the racist, but rather his detractors who are the real racists.

I wonder how successful this will be.

Woke up this morning to the #BigotBrigade doing what they do best. Supporting Trump and excusing/ignoring decades of discrimination, bigotry, and outright racism by Trump.

Starting with the housing discrimination suits he lost back in the day, to his current slurs and statements against Mexican-Americans, Mexicans generally, Muslims, and minorities (religious minorities in particular given his talk about being for Christian Americans), the Trump bigotry is nonstop and goes way beyond any one incident.

It’s who Trump is.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:36:53am

And it’s not that we are ignoring Bernie’s success. We are ignoring those who’d never vote for a Dem to begin with.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:40:24am

Is he using a shoelace as a belt? Am I missing out on a trend?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:42:55am

re: #171 Dr. Matt

Is he using a shoelace as a belt? Am I missing out a trend?

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Evidently so;
hypebeast.com

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:45:01am

re: #171 Dr. Matt

From the earlier photo I thought it was Justin Trudeau.//

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:46:10am

re: #172 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Evidently so;
hypebeast.com

HA!

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:47:23am

re: #173 Nyet

Ashton Kutcher?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:47:47am

re: #173 Nyet

From the earlier photo I thought it was Justin Trudeau.//

Looks more like Ashton Kutcher as Michael Kelso in That 70s Show.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:49:00am

I just had a Bernie Bro tell me that Hillary was trying to overthrow the will of the people in 2008 by asking for support from superdelegates….in 2008, when she won the popular vote. SMH I’m started to think some of theses BBs really are teabaggers.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:51:07am

Curses! 25 seconds.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:51:43am

re: #92 Anymouse

But now. Like Alex Jones. It’s all good!

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:53:51am

Sad!

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:54:45am

re: #180 Dr. Matt

And that’s RCP.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:56:37am

re: #180 Dr. Matt

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Sad!

Low energy. Loser!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:56:48am

re: #180 Dr. Matt

re: #181 Nyet

UNSKEW THE POLLS!!!

You know it’s coming.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 11, 2016 • 5:57:22am

OMG these “Latinos for Trump” on MSNBC right now are morons.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:00:02am

re: #184 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

OMG these “Latinos for Trump” on MSNBC right now are morons.

The politically correct term is “the common clay of the new West”.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:01:39am

re: #185 Nyet

The politically correct term is “the common clay of the new West”.

Nope. they’re just fucking morons. They just said that they can look past the rhetoric and the racism and xenophobia. I mean really? Apparently they think they are exempt since they’re of cuban descent.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:02:28am

I’m watching crowds line-up at the Tampa Convention Center for the Trump hatefest today. The entire demographic is old and white.

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:02:35am

re: #180 Dr. Matt

Reuters is running Hillary ahead 46-35. There’s a lot of undecideds out there, but the trend is looking ominous for Trump.

National polling this far out is inaccurate, and once the convention bounces are over and accounted for, we can get into the nitty gritty of likely voter polls in battleground states, which is where the real action is. National polls are nice for trends and talking points, but winning the WH isn’t by national poll, but winning the EC, and that means winning each state as a standalone.

If Trump is showing behind in those battleground states, then it’s going to be bad for him. If he’s showing behind in traditionally GOP states like KS or UT or TX, it’s going to be real bad for Trump. If those polls show him down double digits in the battlegrounds and behind in KS, UT, or TX, it’s going to be a landslide.

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:03:18am

re: #185 Nyet

The politically correct term is “the common clay of the new West”.

You know…. morons. /Waco Kid

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Timothy Watson  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:05:08am

re: #187 Dr. Matt

I’m watching crowds line-up at the Tampa Convention Center for the Trump hatefest today. The entire demographic is old and white.

I am amazed that all the white folk were willing to brave Richmond to go to his event last night.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:07:05am

re: #187 Dr. Matt

I’m watching crowds line-up at the Tampa Convention Center for the Trump hatefest today. The entire demographic is old and white.

what, his african-american didn’t show up? /

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jeffreyw  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:09:09am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:09:12am

hahahaha

Facebook Video

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:10:10am

re: #187 Dr. Matt

I’m watching crowds line-up at the Tampa Convention Center for the Trump hatefest today. The entire demographic is old and white.

Hmm…
Summertime, air conditioning, should be done in time for the early bird special…
yeah, that demographic seems about right

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:10:27am

re: #193 Dr. Matt

nope

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:11:12am

Well, this is really special. I know about moon-landing deniers, but this is…OK, I don’t know what this is….

Space X Busted Faking Space - The Final Nail In The Coffin

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:12:33am

re: #193 Dr. Matt

“You can still be a massive prick despite what’s in your pants.”

LOLOLOL

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:13:05am

re: #196 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There’s a conspiracy theory for everything. Including what I just typed.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:14:13am

Back later.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:14:14am

re: #198 lawhawk

There’s a conspiracy theory for everything. Including what I just typed.

My favorite is this 2ish+ hour CT on youtube about how nuclear weapons aren’t real.

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jeffreyw  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:14:45am

re: #198 lawhawk

Aha! Another one of those everythingists!

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:16:06am

re: #200 Not a Sparkly Vampire

My favorite is this 2ish+ hour CT on youtube about how nuclear weapons aren’t real.

Sry, you’ve been duped. Youtube doesn’t exist.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:16:42am

re: #202 Nyet

Sry, you’ve been duped. Youtube doesn’t exist.

I beg to differ because Monsanto.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:18:35am

re: #196 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, this is really special. I know about moon-landing deniers, but this is…OK, I don’t know what this is….

[Embedded content]

I know you owe me two minutes and ten seconds of my damn life back…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:20:50am

Most importantly, burning jet fuel can’t melt steel.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:27:55am
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darthstar  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:29:06am

I think I posted that yesterday, but I love the Dead so there it is again. The Wall of Sound, circa 1974.

Mornin’ everyone.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:30:36am

re: #204 FormerDirtDart

I know you owe me two minutes and ten seconds of my damn life back…

I refuse to watch it, or I will lose IQ points.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:31:08am

re: #204 FormerDirtDart

I know you owe me two minutes and ten seconds of my damn life back…

Sorry—here, have some cute:

Top 10 Cats and Dogs best friends

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:32:45am

re: #63 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think 85-90% of voters will have no trouble voting for a woman for President nowadays. Two women, though? It shouldn’t make a difference, but I think it would. Enough people were willing to vote for a black candidate in ‘08—but just suppose Obama had chosen a black running mate? It sucks that you have to think about things like this, but you do.

I, unfortunately, agree.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:35:41am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I refuse to watch it, or I will lose IQ points.

I can’t help but think the world those conspiracy types live in must be a terrible place…

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:38:14am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

Most importantly, burning jet fuel can’t melt steel.

“Blasters can’t melt ice, Hoth was an inside job!”
/A twitch streamer I watch

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:43:57am

re: #106 Stanley Sea

Expected attendance against homelessness 500. Fuck you BernieBros. You couldn’t be bothered?

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:47:11am

I knew this story was going to bring forth racist spews:

Sometimes I hate being right.

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:49:29am

re: #110 Anymouse

And like Sarah Palin, I can grift off the Canadian medical care system as she noted her family did on FOX News Channel.

(Really. I am having real trouble getting the necessary quantity of my epilepsy meds from the VA for my trip, because they are a controlled substance a couple states have illegally diverted into death penalty usage and Lundbeck restricts how many can be given out at a time in a death penalty state. I pointed out to the VA after two months of arguing with them that I will go to Canada anyway and run out in my first week. I have already contacted a lawyer about this who says there might be an issue with the VA opposing my ADA rights and my Right to Travel as found in numerous Supreme Court cases. I would really rather not have to sue the VA, but dayumn you would think they thought I was trying to steal their personal stash of Phenobarbital or something.)

Bring your records with you to Canada. Pay $25 to see a doc up there and get a script. Go to a Canadian pharmacy to get the meds. It’ll cost a fraction even with a doc visit.

I was in Canada years ago and forgot my allergy meds. Cost in the USA without including a visit to the doc? $165. Cost in Canada? $50 which included the doc visit.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:54:41am
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darthstar  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:55:47am
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:56:05am
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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:56:42am

re: #138 Dave In Austin

Morning….
I’ve heard the term “Surgical Savant” kicked around. For someone so gifted in the medical arts, he sure seems ignorant to the most basic science.
I don’t get it.

Fachidiot is a better phrase. The Germans nailed it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:58:17am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart

JUST IN: Trump insists Don King has endorsed him, despite King’s denial

A slight misconstrual: Don King’s HAIR has endorsed Trump’s hairdo

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 6:59:03am

re: #138 Dave In Austin

Morning….
I’ve heard the term “Surgical Savant” kicked around. For someone so gifted in the medical arts, he sure seems ignorant to the most basic science.
I don’t get it.

That is an example of a school system that teaches you how to do a specific job but fails to teach you how to think.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:01:23am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A slight misconstrual: Don King’s HAIR has endorsed Trump’s hairdo

That seems plausible, as both Don’s share the same hair wrangler…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:02:52am

re: #222 FormerDirtDart

That seems plausible, as both Don’s share the same hair wrangler…

They share the same subspecies…

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:10:15am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:13:36am

re: #213 MsJ

Expected attendance against homelessness 500. Fuck you BernieBros. You couldn’t be bothered?

“Race to Zero” is only expecting 200. My, how times have changed. Maybe we could get the guys Not a Sparkly Vampire talked about who think nuclear weapons aren’t real to counterdemonstrate,

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:15:36am

Heh, neat.
Image: eTiQAVC.jpg

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:15:48am

re: #59 Nyet

There’s a strong push for Warren as VP.

I don’t know. Warren seems to fit right in in what experience and temperament are concerned. But you can’t fully ignore the identity politics. Namely, a Hispanic VP (of whatever gender) would seal the deal. Two white candidates, maybe not.

Plus it could cost the Democrats control of the Senate.

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lockjawcanbefun  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:17:29am
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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:17:33am

re: #226 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Heh, neat.
Image: eTiQAVC.jpg

Is that all stock parts?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:18:21am

re: #67 Anymouse

“How many women are too many on the Supreme Court?” - Ten - Notorious RBG

I can’t speak for other voters, but I have no problem voting for two well-qualified women. That would be me though, growing up the only male in my family. (I was the oldest at age fourteen.)

After feeling anxious in 2008 about whether whites would vote for an African-American, I’m not going to worry that they might not vote for an all-woman ticket.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:21:29am

re: #230 Big Beautiful Door

After feeling anxious in 2008 about whether whites would vote for an African-American, I’m not going to worry that they might not vote for an all-woman ticket.

Warren does not want it. Find someone else to round out the ticket.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:22:58am

re: #63 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think 85-90% of voters will have no trouble voting for a woman for President nowadays. Two women, though? It shouldn’t make a difference, but I think it would. Enough people were willing to vote for a black candidate in ‘08—but just suppose Obama had chosen a black running mate? It sucks that you have to think about things like this, but you do.

whoda thunk that two candidates of the same gender would be an issue?

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:26:36am

re: #227 Big Beautiful Door

Plus it could cost the Democrats control of the Senate.

The Senate is there for the taking this year. Just tie every Republican to Trump. Only the reddest state candidates will survive.

Same goes for the House.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:29:29am

re: #233 darthstar

The Senate is there for the taking this year. Just tie every Republican to Trump. Only the reddest state candidates will survive.

Same goes for the House.

That will leave Hillary two years to get things done before the next mid-terms return the House and Senate to the GOP…

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:29:30am
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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:31:06am

re: #233 darthstar

The Senate is there for the taking this year. Just tie every Republican to Trump. Only the reddest state candidates will survive.

Same goes for the House.

And lets make something clear. Endorsing Trump becomes career suicide. Failing to endorse Trump is also unacceptable. Only full throated denunciations will be acceptable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:31:38am

re: #236 Great White Snark

And lets make something clear. Endorsing Trump becomes career suicide. Failing to endorse Trump is also unacceptable. Only full throated denunciations will be acceptable.

Nothing short of quitting the GOP

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:33:33am

So what do we think? Once Trump goes down in November, will he be able to milk out a career as President-in-Exile on all the Sunday shows, like Grandpa Walnuts has for the last 8 years? Does anybody but me think that was his plan to begin with?

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:33:59am
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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:35:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:35:19am

re: #238 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So what do we think? Once Trump goes down in November, will he be able to milk out a career as President-in-Exile on all the Sunday shows, like Grandpa Walnuts has for the last 8 years? Does anybody but me think that was his plan to begin with?

He is an established American Brand name with 99.98% recognition. He can do with that pretty much whatever he wants to.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:35:40am

re: #95 ElaineBenis

I know that it’s too early, polls in June don’t matter, anything can happen, dems will fuck up etc etc etc but damn, wouldn’t this be sweet if it holds:

Poll shows Clinton leading in Kansas; broad dissatisfaction with Legislature

Oh how I would love to see Brownback’s many policy failures turn Kansas(!) blue. Karma, bitches.

The mere fact that Clinton is competative in red states is a very bad sign for Trump.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:36:12am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That will leave Hillary two years to get things done before the next mid-terms return the House and Senate to the GOP…

Depends on if she gets things done or not. I think we could have held the House & Senate in 2010 if Democrats had campaigned on Obamacare instead of letting the Republicans hang it over their necks like an albatross.

Run a positive campaign in 2018 and survive. Try to keep the GOP at bay and get slaughtered again.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:36:15am

re: #233 darthstar

The Senate is there for the taking this year. Just tie every Republican to Trump. Only the reddest state candidates will survive.

Same goes for the House.

I sure hope you are right.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:37:22am

re: #243 darthstar

Depends on if she gets things done or not. I think we could have held the House & Senate in 2010 if Democrats had campaigned on Obamacare instead of letting the Republicans hang it over their necks like an albatross.

To many Democrats were unsure of it…fools.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:37:23am

re: #244 Big Beautiful Door

I sure hope you are right.

Well, we have to see how the candidates behave…and who gets chosen by DWS and the DNC as being worthy of support in a tight race.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:37:35am

re: #229 Targetpractice

Is that all stock parts?

As far as I can tell, yep.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:39:13am

re: #238 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So what do we think? Once Trump goes down in November, will he be able to milk out a career as President-in-Exile on all the Sunday shows, like Grandpa Walnuts has for the last 8 years? Does anybody but me think that was his plan to begin with?

I can’t see Trump as a Sunday News Show kind of guy; he has so little interest in actual policy. I frankly have to admit that I have no idea what Trump is thinking.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:39:21am

re: #247 Not a Sparkly Vampire

As far as I can tell, yep.

I thought it was a cartoon graphic.

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:40:17am

re: #232 dangerman

whoda thunk that two candidates of the same gender would be an issue?

There are far too many people who think a woman’s place is in the kitchen or birthin’ babies. I’d like to reduce any chance of a Trump win. And I am a raging feminazi. Ask Rush. (Joking aside, I am a feminist and while I’d wholeheartedly vote a two woman ticket, many wouldn’t. That’s the sad reality.)

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:41:08am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:41:48am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That will leave Hillary two years to get things done before the next mid-terms return the House and Senate to the GOP…

That is what I’m hoping for. If the Democrats gain control of Congress, they badly need to either ditch or substantially revise the filibuster so they can actually get something done, because you know the GOP will filibuster everything.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:45:52am

There’s probably a good 10% of the population who just will not vote for a black guy. The GOP’s calculations all have that baked in. I don’t think they quite realize that the next Democratic candidate is not going to be a black guy. Now there might be 10% who just will not vote for a woman, too—but they’re not necessarily the same people. In particular, they’re not as geographically concentrated in the South. There could be some red states in play because of that.

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Anymouse  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:48:21am

re: #215 MsJ

Bring your records with you to Canada. Pay $25 to see a doc up there and get a script. Go to a Canadian pharmacy to get the meds. It’ll cost a fraction even with a doc visit.

I was in Canada years ago and forgot my allergy meds. Cost in the USA without including a visit to the doc? $165. Cost in Canada? $50 which included the doc visit.

Thanks. When I have travelled in the past, I carry a VA printout in my passport of my medications. That would probably be useful in Manitoba or Ontario if I need to get my meds there.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:50:34am

re: #252 Big Beautiful Door

That is what I’m hoping for. If the Democrats gain control of Congress, they badly need to either ditch or substantially revise the filibuster so they can actually get something done, because you know the GOP will filibuster everything.

Imagine if the American people saw the government actually getting something done through two congresses. They haven’t seen that since the Johnson administration. They might like it, and keep the same party in power. It’s so crazy it just might work!

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Jay C  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:50:58am

re: #248 Big Beautiful Door

I can’t see Trump as a Sunday News Show kind of guy; he has so little interest in actual policy. I frankly have to admit that I have no idea what Trump is thinking.

Of course he has little/no/negative interest in “policy” per se: Trump’s interest in appearing on news/interview shows would probably have the same priorities as his Presidential campaign: i.e., promoting The Trump Brand - and making money off the rubes marks chumps fans concerned citizens who will probably still see him as some sort of Great Leader.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:51:20am

re: #250 MsJ

There are far too many people who think a woman’s place is in the kitchen or birthin’ babies. I’d like to reduce any chance of a Trump win. And I am a raging feminazi. Ask Rush. (Joking aside, I am a feminist and while I’d wholeheartedly vote a two woman ticket, many wouldn’t. That’s the sad reality.)

agree completely. that’s why in neutral terms it’s absurd. it’s not “of the same gender”. it’s two (gasp) women!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:52:16am

re: #253 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There’s probably a good 10% of the population who just will not vote for a black guy. The GOP’s calculations all have that baked in. I don’t think they quite realize that the next Democratic candidate is not going to be a black guy. Now there might be 10% who just will not vote for a woman, too—but they’re not necessarily the same people. In particular, they’re not as geographically concentrated in the South. There could be some red states in play because of that.

Some red states have elected women as governors. Electing a woman president is not much a leap from there.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:53:09am

Slowly, but exceedingly fine—

Michael Hubbard, Alabama House Speaker, Is Convicted on 12 Felony Ethics Charges

nytimes.com

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:54:34am

re: #253 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There’s probably a good 10% of the population who just will not vote for a black guy. The GOP’s calculations all have that baked in. I don’t think they quite realize that the next Democratic candidate is not going to be a black guy. Now there might be 10% who just will not vote for a woman, too—but they’re not necessarily the same people. In particular, they’re not as geographically concentrated in the South. There could be some red states in play because of that.

and most everyone’s probably met at least one woman so it’s not quite as alien a concept ////super duper /s tags here

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:55:27am

re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus

Embedded Image

Top 5 right there.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:58:05am

Here’s a better view of the Ark that hit the Norwegian Coast Guard cutter. I’m sure it could ride out a worldwide flood….

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:58:34am

re: #236 Great White Snark

And lets make something clear. Endorsing Trump becomes career suicide. Failing to endorse Trump is also unacceptable. Only full throated denunciations will be acceptable.

Sorry, they can’t denounce, their throats are full.

*ducks*

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:58:57am

re: #255 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Imagine if the American people saw the government actually getting something done through two congresses. They haven’t seen that since the Johnson administration. They might like it, and keep the same party in power. It’s so crazy it just might work!

not to be too contrarian…a good chunk of “the American People” don’t want to see that particular stuff actually getting done.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 7:59:28am

re: #262 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here’s a better view of the Ark that hit the Norwegian Coast Guard cutter. I’m sure it could ride out a worldwide flood….

Embedded Image

I don’t think they claimed their model could.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:00:05am

re: #264 dangerman

not to be too contrarian…a good chunk of “the American People” don’t want to see that particular stuff actually getting done.

They can secede again…maybe we finish Reconstruction this time.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:00:13am

re: #259 Decatur Deb

Slowly, but exceedingly fine—

Michael Hubbard, Alabama House Speaker, Is Convicted on 12 Felony Ethics Charges

nytimes.com

you did say it was bloodsport down there…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:05:17am

From “related stories” on that Guardian page. Jerry Seinfeld was a piker with his “Show About Nothing”:

Norway introduces the latest Nordic television hit: live-streamed sea

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:06:40am

re: #264 dangerman

not to be too contrarian…a good chunk of “the American People” don’t want to see that particular stuff actually getting done.

They think they don’t. It would be nice if thy could experience real liberal policies in action and not by the fearmongering right wing yappers.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:07:58am

re: #268 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From “related stories” on that Guardian page. Jerry Seinfeld was a piker with his “Show About Nothing”:

Norway introduces the latest Nordic television hit: live-streamed sea

Embedded Image

And people snicker at the WPIX-TV “Yule log” at Christmastime.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:09:03am

re: #262 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here’s a better view of the Ark that hit the Norwegian Coast Guard cutter. I’m sure it could ride out a worldwide flood….

Embedded Image

It looks like they built a wooden superstructure on top of a barge. I’ll bet it’s not very maneuverable.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:10:53am

re: #269 MsJ

They think they don’t. It would be nice if thy could experience real liberal policies in action and not by the fearmongering right wing yappers.

i’m all for trying

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:10:55am

re: #262 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That one is not connected to the US theme park is it? How fun would it be to secretly plant that thing way up a mountain and wait for the “discovery”?

Interesting that a vessel under tow does not have the right of way over a modern powered ship of steel, GPS stabilizers, thousands of horsepower and all. On a kinda funny observation, with a world wide flood what could the thing possibly run into? Someone elses ark?

As long at it’s a literary/historical exhibition without evangelical/creationist lessons or science denial involved, it’s kinda neat to see an ancient description made real. I say this in the same spirit of the guys that study and want to accurately reproduce a working Antikythera. That device, way ahead of its time was an astronomic calculator. Now recently they got more of the inscriptions figured out and it may have also been thought to be a way of predicting the future by way of predicting eclipses and such.
The Antikythera Mechanism Research Project

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:15:42am

re: #262 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here’s a better view of the Ark that hit the Norwegian Coast Guard cutter. I’m sure it could ride out a worldwide flood….

[Embedded content]

Obviously it needs more tires as dock bumpers.
And placed much higher…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:16:35am

re: #273 Great White Snark

That one is not connected to the US theme park is it? How fun would it be to secretly plant that thing way up a mountain and wait for the “discovery”?

Interesting that a vessel under tow does not have the right of way over a modern powered ship of steel, GPS stabilizers, thousands of horsepower and all. On a kinda funny observation, with a world wide flood what could the thing possibly run into? Someone elses ark?

As long at it’s a literary/historical exhibition without evangelical/creationist lessons or science denial involved, it’s kinda neat to see an ancient description made real. I say this in the same spirit of the guys that study and want to accurately reproduce a working Antikythera. That device, way ahead of its time was an astronomic calculator. Now recently they got more of the inscriptions figured out and it may have also been thought to be a way of predicting the future by way of predicting eclipses and such.
The Antikythera Mechanism Research Project

The Coast Guard vessel was actually anchored, I think.

Hell yeah, on the Antikythera Machine. I’ve been a buff on that for a long time—that and ancient ships, as I said in my #84.

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:17:18am

re: #268 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From “related stories” on that Guardian page. Jerry Seinfeld was a piker with his “Show About Nothing”:

Norway introduces the latest Nordic television hit: live-streamed sea

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which is still more action than an old BBC show, “Badger Watch”.

They’d set up cameras near the watering hole, broadcast live…

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vgranucci  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:18:20am

re: #41 FormerDirtDart

OK, Meg is really mad at Chris…

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Welcome to the Dark Side, Meg

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:19:12am

re: #269 MsJ

They think they don’t. It would be nice if thy could experience real liberal policies in action and not by the fearmongering right wing yappers.

They don’t, trust me. Most people are not enthusiastic about giving a government that has for the most part shown itself to be stupid and clueless more power.

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:22:43am

re: #278 Dark_Falcon

They don’t, trust me. Most people are not enthusiastic about giving a government that has for the most part shown itself to be stupid and clueless more power.

You’re part of the brainwashed right. Sorry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:23:25am
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vgranucci  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:24:14am

re: #59 Nyet

There’s a strong push for Warren as VP.

I don’t know. Warren seems to fit right in in what experience and temperament are concerned. But you can’t fully ignore the identity politics. Namely, a Hispanic VP (of whatever gender) would seal the deal. Two white candidates, maybe not.

Plus 2 candidates from the Northeast. Clinton will pick someone from the West or Southwest.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:28:00am

re: #278 Dark_Falcon

They don’t, trust me. Most people are not enthusiastic about giving a government that has for the most part shown itself to be stupid and clueless more power.

“more” or “less” power is a meaningless argument. it’s measured against nothing.

it’s about appropriate, allowed, necessary…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:32:06am

re: #263 Nyet

Sorry, they can’t denounce, their throats are full.

*ducks*

What, did Obama shove Obamacare down them?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:34:19am

re: #271 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It looks like they built a wooden superstructure on top of a barge. I’ll bet it’s not very maneuverable.

Nonsense! It’s every bit as maneuverable as any large, shallow-draft, keel-less vessel!
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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:35:02am

re: #282 dangerman

“more” or “less” power is a meaningless argument. it’s measured against nothing.

it’s about appropriate, allowed, necessary…

Functioning checks and balances.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:39:50am

re: #285 Great White Snark

Functioning checks and balances.

Which in many cases we don’t really have right now. And while Obama’s helped make that problem worse, the real fault in the matter lies with Congress allowing federal agencies to have too much of its authority and elevating pose-striking over meaningful oversight.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:39:56am

538 says that polling shows that Trump is doing no better than Romney did with whites. Trump has to do at least seven percentage points better with whites than Romney did to win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:41:46am

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

Which in many cases we don’t really have right now. And while Obama’s helped make that problem worse, the real fault in the matter lies with Congress allowing federal agencies to have too much of its authority and elevating pose-striking over meaningful oversight.

LOLOLOLOL!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:42:43am
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SteelPH  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:43:54am

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

Which in many cases we don’t really have right now. And while Obama’s helped make that problem worse, the real fault in the matter lies with Congress allowing federal agencies to have too much of its authority and elevating pose-striking over meaningful oversight.

[Citation Needed]

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:43:55am

Baffling billboards bother Brits

bbc.com

It seems someone with Sovereign Citizen-type inclinations has bankrolled a slew of “Legal Name Fraud” billboards all across the UK.

A Facebook page dedicated to posting photos of the billboards includes dozens more. Another website has more than 120 images of “legal name fraud” posters.

But no-one seems to know what message these adverts are actually attempting to get across.

A further web search took me to a site called legalnamefraud.com, which outlines a theory that when your birth was registered, a legal entity - your legal name - was created. But the legal entity “Jane Smith” is distinct from the actual physical person Jane Smith, the website says.

When your parents registered your birth on the certificate, it insists, they unknowingly gave the Crown Corporation ownership of your name. “Simply thus, all legal names are owned by the Crown, and therefore using a legal name without their written permission is fraud.”

Further research brought him in contact with a Canadian who goes variously by the names of Kate of Gaia, Katherine, Kate Renee Thompson, Keith William Thomson, JANE DOE-755, Dohm Teewatt and D-ohm T-wat, who told him to push off and google it.

The ad agency and the billboard owners were also not helpful in providing the identity of the person or entity paying for the ad campaign.

Weirdos everywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:44:27am

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

Which in many cases we don’t really have right now. And while Obama’s helped make that problem worse, the real fault in the matter lies with Congress allowing federal agencies to have too much of its authority and elevating pose-striking over meaningful oversight.

I fail to see how Obama made the problem worse. Your party’s Congressional literally had a meeting the day he became President where they brainstormed ways to make him ineffective and McConnell infamously said that the goal was to make him a one termer. As for his legislation, ACA was in fact the Republican response to Clinton’s health care plan in the mid 90’s. So yeah Obama did make things worse by having the audacity to beat McCain. Your party’s entire response to Obama has been one giant temper tantrum. Another thing, they complain about the executive orders even though the man has been very conservative when ti comes to issuing them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:45:40am

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

Nonsense! It’s every bit as maneuverable as any large, shallow-draft, keel-less vessel!
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That may be why Noah spent 40 days and 40 nights at sea. The earth wasn’t covered with water. It just seemed that way.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:46:35am

Tyson being MBF’y again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:47:33am

re: #278 Dark_Falcon

They don’t, trust me. Most people are not enthusiastic about giving a government that has for the most part shown itself to be stupid and clueless more power.

I think, Dark, what people want is EFFECTIVE government. This is one issue people had with Obamacare - not necessarily that the government is taking over 1/6 of the economy!!, but rather that they government would take over 1/6 of the economy and then fuck it up.

Conservatives tend to think Liberals think the opposite of whatever Conservative say are Conservative principles. So, if Conservatives think they like small government, they believe Liberals like big government.

But Liberalism is actually a pragmatic, results-based philosophy. We don’t want BIG government. We want EFFECTIVE government.

Look at healthcare. We as a society already decided Healthcare is a right, when Reagan signed TEFRA, so it’s up to society to come up with a way to provide that. It’s clear that the Free Market won’t provide universal healthcare. So it’s up to society to come up with something that will. we’re willing to try something, and adjust it as necessary to make it as efficient as possible, to serve the largest number in the best way.

Conservatives, OTOH, oppose it, not on the basis of real world results, but because of an unfounded belief that the Free Market will provide. But the Free Market WASN’T providing, was it?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:47:44am

re: #287 Big Beautiful Door

538 says that polling shows that Trump is doing no better than Romney did with whites. Trump has to do at least seven percentage points better with whites than Romney did to win.

And no worse with Latinos, women, etc.

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nines09  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:48:26am

...

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:48:34am

re: #290 SteelPH

[Citation Needed]

And not from NRO.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:49:00am

re: #290 SteelPH

[Citation Needed]

Obama attempted de-facto Illegal immigrant amnesty, for starters. Obamacare being written too broadly and allowing executive agencies to change the rules when they become inconvenient is a second.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:49:40am

Sorry, what if there really is nothing good about the opposing candidate?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:49:49am

re: #295 Blind Frog Belly White

I think, Dark, what people want is EFFECTIVE government. This is one issue people had with Obamacare - not necessarily that the government is taking over 1/6 of the economy!!, but rather that they government would take over 1/6 of the economy and then fuck it up.

Conservatives tend to think Liberals think the opposite of whatever Conservative say are Conservative principles. So, if Conservatives think they like small government, they believe Liberals like big government.

But Liberalism is actually a pragmatic, results-based philosophy. We don’t want BIG government. We want EFFECTIVE government.

Look at healthcare. We as a society already decided Healthcare is a right, when Reagan signed TEFRA, so it’s up to society to come up with a way to provide that. It’s clear that the Free Market won’t provide universal healthcare. So it’s up to society to come up with something that will. we’re willing to try something, and adjust it as necessary to make it as efficient as possible, to serve the largest number in the best way.

Conservatives, OTOH, oppose it, not on the basis of real world results, but because of an unfounded belief that the Free Market will provide. But the Free Market WASN’T providing, was it?

I have but one regret that I can only upding this once.

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:50:59am

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

Um, sorry but proposals like getting rid of the EPA/OSHA/etc. rather than addressing the flaws loses me. Too many wanting to fix blame and not the problem. Same guys that get pissed at me for wanting universal b/g for gun purchases. When I was a NRA certified instructor, they wanted universal registration. Right now the NRA approach to gun control is making it harder to promote the sporting uses, build or run a shooting range, and making it more necessary for me to get a CCW for work. Between them and the boil a frog slowly handgun ban in California I understand I can’t trust any one sides leadership.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:51:42am

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

Obama attempted de-facto Illegal immigrant amnesty, for starters. Obamacare being written too broadly and allowing executive agencies to change the rules when they become inconvenient is a second.

Dubya was famous for his signing statements where he made clear in advance which parts of a law he was not about to enforce.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:52:00am

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

Obama attempted de-facto Illegal immigrant amnesty, for starters. Obamacare being written too broadly and allowing executive agencies to change the rules when they become inconvenient is a second.

Both of which have apparently ruined the nation. //

Under Obama’s administration, there have been thousands of deportations of undocumented immigrants. And the ACA was passed by Congress and signed by Obama, so maybe Congress shares some of the blame for the new health care system’s faults.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:54:01am

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

Obama attempted de-facto Illegal immigrant amnesty, for starters. Obamacare being written too broadly and allowing executive agencies to change the rules when they become inconvenient is a second.

BZZZZTTT!!! WRONG!!!!

No, Obama adjusted the preferences for prosecuting deportations, to focus on criminals, and to deprioritize deporting long-term residents who were leading productive lives. You know, like the Republicans wanted to do until the Black Guy In The White House wanted it.

It’s not amnesty, because it can go away with the stroke of a pen.

And Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any President in 50 years.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:54:13am

Opera has spontaneously upgraded itself and informed me it will now handle all ad-blocking chores, thank yew very much.

Eerie.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:54:27am

For after the election:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:55:06am

re: #307 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

For after the election:

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Let us devoutly hope.

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Black d20  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:55:31am

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

You’re doing a masterful job of unconvincing me that you’re with the GOP for lack of your own identity and place to belong. That almost sounds like you buy into the nonsense instead of actually thinking about it in depth.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:57:46am
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sagehen  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:57:51am

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

Obama attempted de-facto Illegal immigrant amnesty, for starters. Obamacare being written too broadly and allowing executive agencies to change the rules when they become inconvenient is a second.

BULLSHIT.

If anybody really wanted the government to deport everybody who’s legally deportable, they’d give INS twenty times the budget and personnel. But with the resources they’ve got, it’s only physically possible to deport about 2% of those eligible. It’s ENTIRELY within the executive’s responsibility (obligation even) to set priorities as to which 2% to spend their time on.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:58:56am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart

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But Trump’s dovish compared to Clinton!

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:59:09am

re: #307 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

For after the election:

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My nightmare is a really close result again. *shudder*
It won’t be Chads hanging…

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:59:28am

re: #302 Great White Snark

Um, sorry but proposals like getting rid of the EPA/OSHA/etc. rather than addressing the flaws loses me. Too many wanting to fix blame and not the problem. Same guys that get pissed at me for wanting universal b/g for gun purchases. When I was a NRA certified instructor, they wanted universal registration. Right now the NRA approach to gun control is making it harder to promote the sporting uses, build or run a shooting range, and making it more necessary for me to get a CCW for work. Between them and the boil a frog slowly handgun ban in California I understand I can’t trust any one sides leadership.

I think the NRA acts as it does because it feels (with good reason) that adopting a best-we-can-get strategy for some parts of the country leaves them vulnerable to a salami-slicing strategem.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2016 • 8:59:53am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart

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But remember, Hillary is the “warmonger” because she once voted for the Iraq War.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:00:43am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

I think the NRA acts as it does because it feels (with good reason) that adopting a best-we-can-get strategy for some parts of the country leaves them vulnerable to a salami-slicing strategem.

We’re not get to get your guns, I’m sorry that disappoints you. We are however for more gun safety. The NRA uses fear, intimidation, lies, and racism to achieve its ends on guns.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:00:54am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:01:05am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

I think the NRA acts as it does because it feels (with good reason) that adopting a best-we-can-get strategy for some parts of the country leaves them vulnerable to a salami-slicing strategem.

Curse you! Now I want a salami sandwich.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:03:15am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart

I think he’s seeing what he wants to see. Asking someone if it China’s military actions are liable to lead to future military confrontations with the US is not the same as advocating going to war with China.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:03:19am

The NRA acts as it does because they’re fucking nuts and have not been treated like they’re fucking nuts, so they get even nuttier.

They are deranged.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:03:28am

Honestly regarding immigration, I wouldn’t be opposed to an amnesty on it, I don’t think productive people should have to live in fear of INS showing up to their door one day and deporting them. I mean it’s very easy to see “Well just emigrate legally like my grandparents did”, it’s a lot harder to emigrate legally now than it was in the past. And quite frankly a lot of our foreign policy is what creates the conditions in some countries that force people to emigrate in the first place.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:04:28am

The problem I have with Conservatism is not the idea that government should be limited. Certainly, there should be limits, especially as regards the privacy of individuals, adventurism abroad, etc.

But what I never see from Conservatives is an acknowledgement that the Free Market really WON’T provide the society we all pretty much want, with equality of opportunity for all, no exploitation of any person or group by more powerful persons or groups, a healthy, vibrant economy.

The Free Market, again and again, concentrates wealth and power in the hands of a few at the expense of the rest. It encourages exploitation of workers under the guise of ‘competition’. It encourages speculation instead of productive investment. Again and again this happens, and each time, Free Marketeers point fingers elsewhere, like End Of The World Cultists who keep being wrong about the date of the Apocalypse.

JUST ONCE, I’d like a Conservative to say, “Yes, I realize that all this is true about the Free Market, but I believe that Freedom is the most important thing and that poverty, inequality, pollution, and exploitation are acceptable sacrifices to make for that freedom.” THAT, at least, would be honest.

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:04:30am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

I think the NRA acts as it does because it feels (with good reason) that adopting a best-we-can-get strategy for some parts of the country leaves them vulnerable to a salami-slicing strategem.

Their “strategy” cost them the most populous state. They and the GOP (national) gave up on us Californians in the face of some defeats. Took their money and ran from all us right leaning gun and business owning people. Left us with far less to assert a check and balance. And look what that got us. Guaranteed amount pensions, gun proposals Jerry Brown refused to sign, school systems like LAUSD.

Sorry Dark, your guys screwed me when I was on their side, then they got worse.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:04:41am

re: #317 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Media joins forces and asks court to unseal Trump’s video depositions in university fraud case

Like I said the other day, if the judge goes for this, expect Trump to end his supposed ban on talking about the case anymore.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:04:47am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

I think the NRA acts as it does because it feels (with good reason) that adopting a best-we-can-get strategy for some parts of the country leaves them vulnerable to a salami-slicing strategem.

“swiftly and severely punish the irresponsible”
it’s an easy position to take

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:05:38am

i/ZqolPPIjaeCLYMT5iTh3eE37x/QTu0Ap0J4PPydq4J/MuHQx69xiFyzMMCaarPl8lmGNfoX+I=

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makeitstop  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:05:53am

re: #324 Targetpractice

Like I said the other day, if the judge goes for this, expect Trump to end his supposed ban on talking about the case anymore.

I thought he mentioned the case in his screed last night?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:07:15am

re: #318 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Curse you! Now I want a salami sandwich.

Then have I got a place for YOU to visit!

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:07:24am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Like how Katie Couric promoted ‘gun safety’ via a documentary featuring a Breitbart/O’Keefe-style deceptive edit?

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:07:41am

re: #327 makeitstop

I thought he mentioned the case in his screed last night?

He might have, I admit I’ve been out of the loop the last few days. Work’s entering the busy season and I haven’t had time to get my head above water for more than a few minutes a day.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:08:04am

re: #328 Blind Frog Belly White

“Parts”? Does not sound quite appetizing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:08:19am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:08:50am

re: #331 Nyet

“Parts”? Does not sound quite appetizing.

And yet, the food is fucking fantastic!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:09:14am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:09:57am

re: #326 Nyet

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His heart’s not in it.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:11:10am

re: #331 Nyet

“Parts”? Does not sound quite appetizing.

The focus group preferred it to ‘segments.’

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:11:13am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“I have always supported opposed the war in Iraq!”

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:11:22am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

Honestly regarding immigration, I wouldn’t be opposed to an amnesty on it, I don’t think productive people should have to live in fear of INS showing up to their door one day and deporting them. I mean it’s very easy to see “Well just emigrate legally like my grandparents did”, it’s a lot harder to emigrate legally now than it was in the past. And quite frankly a lot of our foreign policy is what creates the conditions in some countries that force people to emigrate in the first place.

And we’re talking about DREAMers, kids brought here as babies/toddlers who oft times don’t even speak their native language. It would be like sending someone to live on Jupiter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:11:37am
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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:11:44am

re: #335 Blind Frog Belly White

Her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:12:24am
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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:12:59am

re: #336 jaunte

The focus group preferred it to ‘segments.’

I’ve always been particular to niblets.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:13:08am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good, Donald! Now go to Texas and do the same for Abbott!

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:13:44am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I love them so much, maybe I’ll pay them.”

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:15:18am

re: #130 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Rage Furby claims his sources close to Martin Shkreli say the bloodsucker wants to buy Gawker Media.

Why am I not surprised that Shkreli and Chuck have mutual acquaintances?

Not sure if Shkreli wants to get in a bidding war with Ziff Davis, though.

Shkreli would buy Gawker and charge a $2700 monthly subscription.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:15:41am

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

Like how Katie Couric promoted ‘gun safety’ via a documentary featuring a Breitbart/O’Keefe-style deceptive edit?

Gee, Breitbart/O’Keefe tactics, tell me DF, which party actually used a video about those to pass their legislation. And no, I wasn’t talking about that, I was talking about how the NRA/GOA refuse to support any sensible legislation on guns including things like universal background checks that if you polled their members, they say they support but because Wayne LaPierre and friends care more about opposing anything Democrats do than stop gun tragedies, we don’t get that. We’ll never be able to stop all gun violence but your approach sure as hell ensures we won’t be able to reduce them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:16:22am

*blink*

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:16:44am

re: #338 MsJ

And we’re talking about DREAMers, kids brought here as babies/toddlers who oft times don’t even speak their native language. It would be like sending someone to live on Jupiter.

Exactly.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:17:38am

re: #323 Great White Snark

Their “strategy” cost them the most populous state. They and the GOP (national) gave up on us Californians in the face of some defeats. Took their money and ran from all us right leaning gun and business owning people. Left us with far less to assert a check and balance. And look what that got us. Guaranteed amount pensions, gun proposals Jerry Brown refused to sign, school systems like LAUSD.

Sorry Dark, your guys screwed me when I was on their side, then they got worse.

No argument there, but if makes you feel any better I often feel in the same boat regarding the national GOP. Many Republicans in other states often would rather rail against Illinois than try to change the minds of people who live here. It’s less “convert the natives.” now and more “Purge the Heathen!!1”.

The national NRA, by contrast, is more active here and actually may get sound suppressors legalized in Illinois for hunting and target shooting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:17:54am

hahahahahaaaa

no, Donald, they will not.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:18:12am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

I think the NRA acts as it does because it feels (with good reason) that adopting a best-we-can-get strategy for some parts of the country leaves them vulnerable to a salami-slicing strategem.

wanna make this issue go away? and so many others like it?

- control your weapon at all times, including use, handling, storage, and transfers (temporary or permanent)

- lead the clarion call for strict mandatory punishment for anyone/EVERYONE who doesn’t

it is that simple. the numbers would go down and so would the need to otherwise legislate good practices/behavior

then anyone could probably own however many of whatever they wanted without restrictions, or regulation

gun control legislation at all levels tries to regulate behavior because responsible owners won’t advocate regulating the “others” - the demonstrably irresponsible

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nines09  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:18:31am

Donald Trump is an outsider. He’ll bring true leadership. He’s for the little guy. Yes. And I’m a leaf. Watch me float. How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos and Still made Millions. nytimes.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:18:46am

re: #340 Nyet

Her.

OOPS! Thought you meant Reince and just misspelled.

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:18:49am

re: #322 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s a modern abuse of conservatism. Maybe not just modern, some have always been extreme. Nobody wants to acknowledge the kind that is fine with unions as an option for employees and collective bargaining but would oppose foolish terms in pensions and obligatory membership. The kind willing to uphold regulatory power over banks, utilities and essential providers.

Of course the details of how all that might happen matter a very great deal. Voluminous is an inadequate term. But the Dems don’t want to see that as it’s an electoral challenger stronger than the current GOP.

Dark, The current GOP wants nothing to do with that kind of rino approach. Circumstances are the best kind of conservatism is the most unwelcome right this minute. The kind of confident happy straight conservative with family values in their behavior, LGBT friends or associates, a gun for the range, and a union to work with at the office.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:19:03am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

LIVE: #Trump inTampa “I don’t hold anything against people, I have it against our leaders” bit.ly

“leaders” ain’t “people”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:19:47am

Just pathetic now:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:20:47am

Ironically DF, I think you’ve been “cursed” being in a state where the GOP isn’t totally balls off the walls insane. I’ve gone from having people like John Warner, Tom Davis, and yes even Jim Gilmore as prominent Virginia Republicans to people like Ken Cuccinnelli, F.W Jackson, and Dick Black.

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nines09  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:20:58am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

It worked all his life. Why not now? He’s beyond pathetic. He’s ill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:21:02am

good grief, he’s just like Palin in that he can never let go of a grudge.

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nines09  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:21:57am

Have a great weekend all. I’m going to focus on music and fun. Gone.

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:22:25am

re: #263 Nyet

Sorry, they can’t denounce, their throats are full.

*ducks*

Spilled some coffee that time…

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Black d20  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:22:29am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

Exactly.

For me the irony of it all is having that stance and then coming around to Latino voters as if nothing had ever happened. (Sure, we don’t want THOSE of your kind, but we want YOURVOTES.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:22:55am

re: #322 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem I have with Conservatism is not the idea that government should be limited. Certainly, there should be limits, especially as regards the privacy of individuals, adventurism abroad, etc.

They just take the Jeffersonian proposition that “The best government is the one that governs least” to its (il)logical conclusion that “The ideal government is one that can be drowned in a bathtub”.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:24:05am

re: #363 Black d20

For me the irony of it all is having that stance and then coming around to Latino voters as if nothing had ever happened. (Sure, we don’t want THOSE of your kind, but we want YOURVOTES.)

No doubt. They won’t forget thankfully and nor should they.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:24:40am

*thunk*

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:26:49am

re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White

37oc8m3CoZQ4Cqr3Bmxx+QDYa/4omr6ozYyf4LdJVpRzj7/x01BAaQ==

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:28:56am

good grief…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:31:17am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief…

Are we sure that Trump isn’t just two dwarfs standing on top of each other? His comebacks are not only juvenile, they’re not even clever.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:31:32am

Why???

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:31:52am

Yes, its reasonable to say that someone named Juan Hernandez isn’t being wise in voting for Donald Trump. But for protesters to break his nose in making their point was both stupid and wrong:

My friend and I joined a crowd of Trump supporters who had all left the convention center around the same time. The garage where we had parked our car was right next to the building, but police were directing everyone around the block to another garage entrance instead. The farther we walked, the fewer Trump fans were with us — people began peeling off to go to restaurants or bars in the area, or to other garages nearby.

And suddenly, there were protesters everywhere. Some were holding Mexican flags, or burning American ones. They were yelling “F— Trump!” at us and cornering us. Some of them started grabbing Trump supporters — they were going up and slugging people, sucker-punching people, just picking random people out. As much as we wanted to help, because our fellow Republicans were getting hit, I knew any moment that could be me. So my friend and I just kept walking — sometimes, we’d be running. We saw police standing nearby, but they didn’t do anything. That scared me, because I thought, “Okay, if I’m next, there’s going to be no cops.”

About a block from the garage entrance, we turned down the street and found a line of protesters standing in our way. To get back to our car, we’d have to go through them. My friend and I were wearing “Make America Great Again” Trump hats. We were targets, and I was terrified. I could feel it coming — they would look at me and start walking up to me.

Before we could make it into the garage, four or five men surrounded me, and another four surrounded my friend. They just started swinging. We swung back as best as we could. My main thing was I didn’t want to fall; I didn’t want to be knocked down. I’m not a big guy, but I can defend myself as best I can if it’s one on one — but not when they have so much anger against us.

One of the blows caught my nose, and blood just started pouring out. That kind of stunned them, and they backed off a quick second. My adrenaline kicked in; I felt punches on my head, and I felt the punch that hit my nose, but I was in survival mode by then, and I didn’t realize until later how much it hurt. I called my friend, “Okay, let’s go!”

We ran into the parking garage, and we thought we were safe, but there were another few dozen protesters there, too. We got in our car and headed toward the exit. Some protesters jumped on the cars in front of us, but we eventually made it out. My friend drove me to the emergency room because my nose was pouring blood. I had a broken nose, and because I was covered with scratches, I had to get a tetanus shot, too. It took a lot out of me, much more than I realized at first; my headaches and soreness didn’t start to go away until a week later.

Granted that Juan should have been smart and thrown his hat away to avoid drawing hostile attention, the protesters who attacked him were clearly in the wrong. One way Trump might actually win is because violent protests caused his supporters to literally wave the bloody shirt.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:32:45am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

Are we sure that Trump isn’t just two dwarfs standing on top of each other? His comebacks are not only juvenile, they’re not even clever.

the fallacy of the clever dwarf?

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:33:09am

2012:
Is Elizabeth Warren Native American or What?

The Democratic Senate candidate can’t back up family lore that she is part Indian — but neither is there any evidence that she benefited professionally from these stories.

[Laurence Tribe]: “Elizabeth Warren’s heritage had absolutely no role in the decision to recruit her to Harvard Law School,” he told the Crimson. “Our decision was entirely based on her extraordinary expertise and legendary teaching ability. This whole dispute is fabricated out of whole cloth and has no connection to reality.”

And that’s the second arena where an absence of evidence should have some weight. If there’s no easily located evidence that Warren has Native American ancestry, there’s also no evidence Warren used her family story to boost herself into a Harvard job.

A huge tell — beyond the flat denials of two of the men who brought her to the school — is that Warren’s ancestry was not touted in 1995 in the Harvard Crimson as the Law School’s first Native American hire, despite the ethnic studies movement’s gathering force on the college’s campus at the time and continued controversy over the lack of diversity at the law school (as highlighted at a protest involving Prof. Derrick Bell and law school student Barack Obama in 1991). The Crimson article on Warren was titled simply, “Woman Tenured at Law School.”

theatlantic.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:33:14am

re: #372 dangerman

the fallacy of the clever dwarf?

I was going to say two kids but Trump’s been around too long for that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:34:58am

re: #370 Nyet

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Why???

Susan, you supported John Edwards for President. Look at number three. Oh and Bernie was fine with PAC money for his re-election campaign that probably did come from Wall Street.
opensecrets.org

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Timothy Watson  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:35:17am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart

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If you’re going to push poll people, maybe you shouldn’t use sneer quotes around the name of something you support?

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Black d20  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:35:27am

re: #371 Dark_Falcon

I have to ask because I’m starting to have some doubts: why did you even post this?

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:35:34am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

I was going to say two kids but Trump’s been around too long for that.

they coulda done like Lassie, swapping out for new dogs…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:35:52am

re: #355 Great White Snark

That’s a modern abuse of conservatism. Maybe not just modern, some have always been extreme. Nobody wants to acknowledge the kind that is fine with unions as an option for employees and collective bargaining but would oppose foolish terms in pensions and obligatory membership. The kind willing to uphold regulatory power over banks, utilities and essential providers.

Of course the details of how all that might happen matter a very great deal. Voluminous is an inadequate term. But the Dems don’t want to see that as it’s an electoral challenger stronger than the current GOP.

Dark, The current GOP wants nothing to do with that kind of rino approach. Circumstances are the best kind of conservatism is the most unwelcome right this minute. The kind of confident happy straight conservative with family values in their behavior, LGBT friends or associates, a gun for the range, and a union to work with at the office.

It’s not a question of ‘extreme’, because what you have just described as Conservatism would be called Liberalism by most self-styled Conservatives. What you’re describing is Centrism. It used to function as a governor on the wildest experimentation of Liberalism (see John Rogers’ “I Miss Republicans” essay).

I’d also like to take issue with your opposition to mandatory union membership. What you’re proposing is the same as a corporation signing an exclusive contract for another business to be the sole supplier of a particular item, and then also sourcing that item from another business.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:36:50am

re: #373 jaunte

2012:
Is Elizabeth Warren Native American or What?

The Democratic Senate candidate can’t back up family lore that she is part Indian — but neither is there any evidence that she benefited professionally from these stories.

theatlantic.com

I think Warren may have made a small gaffe in believing family lore was true. She’s not the first white person from Oklahoma to believe that they have Cherokee ancestors.

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danarchy  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:37:24am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

I was going to say two kids but Trump’s been around too long for that.

Maybe it is like the band Menudo…when one of the kids gets too old they get rotated out.

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Jenner7  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:37:48am

Trump says Hillary wants to take your guns. Trump asks the crowd: Who has guns in this place? Crowd erupts. What would you say if someone said they want to take your gun from you?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:37:54am

re: #381 danarchy

Maybe it is like the band Menudo…when one of the kids gets too old they get rotated out.

By George, I think you got it!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:38:31am

re: #382 Jenner7

Trump says Hillary wants to take your guns. Trump asks the crowd: Who has guns in this place? Crowd erupts. What would you say if someone said they want to take your gun from you?

He’s so full of shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:38:38am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:39:01am

re: #378 dangerman

they coulda done like Lassie, swapping out for new dogs…

True. Kids must be talented though because the whiny voice has stayed the same over the past 30 some years.

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Franklin  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:39:06am

One of my City Councilors at the Pride Parade today:

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:39:13am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

The “Pocahontas” taunts are just the latest extreme wishing for the magical balance fairy.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:39:14am

re: #381 danarchy

Maybe it is like the band Menudo…when one of the kids gets too old they get rotated out.

eggzacto

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stpaulbear  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:39:55am

Cool. An albino squirrel just ran up the tree in my back yard. I haven’t seen it before and they’re pretty rare around here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:40:32am

re: #388 jaunte

The “Pocahontas” taunts are just the latest extreme wishing for the magical balance fairy.

Pocohontas, Indian war chants, etc. I think she made an innocent mistake but as a genealogist myself, I know how easy it is to fall for family legends.

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:40:42am

re: #326 Nyet
re: #367 Nyet

She walked away without a harsh word here. Yes she is very very conservative. And lends a helping hand to friends without hesitation. She is a friend whose politics are far from my own, but still a kind person.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:40:44am
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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:41:03am

“Our nominee tells so many lies fact checkers can barely keep up, but Warren believed in and repeated her family lore.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:41:08am

re: #377 Black d20

I have to ask because I’m starting to have some doubts: why did you even post this?

False equivalence. “Yes, Trump, who is about to has gotten the votes of millions of Republicans by appealing to racism and promising to preserve and extend white privilege is bad. But these few individuals also did something bad, so both sides do it.”

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:41:46am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

Pocohontas, Indian war chants, etc. I think she made an innocent mistake but as a genealogist myself, I know how easy it is to fall for family legends.

like those ancestry.com commercials. i though i was this, now i think i’m that. gotta immediately change all our family traditions!

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:41:54am

re: #392 Great White Snark

All the more sad.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:42:27am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

@realDonaldTrump just hugged an American flag at his rally in Tampa

Did he dry-hump it a little?

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:42:44am

re: #377 Black d20

I have to ask because I’m starting to have some doubts: why did you even post this?

Because that sort of thing is intolerable, whomever does it. Political violence does immense damage if allowed to occur. And if Trump wins because people were scared into voting for him by violent protests them he’s likely to try to launch some kind of crackdown, which will be very ugly.

Thus those inclined to attack Trump supporters thus should refrain from doing so, for their own good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:43:02am
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Jenner7  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:43:25am

“Who’s 100% certain about anything?” A real thing Trump just said.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:43:56am

re: #373 jaunte

2012:
Is Elizabeth Warren Native American or What?

The Democratic Senate candidate can’t back up family lore that she is part Indian — but neither is there any evidence that she benefited professionally from these stories.

theatlantic.com

This will be the decisive issue of 2016!!!

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:44:36am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Pocaghazi

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:44:57am

re: #401 Jenner7

“Who’s 100% certain about anything?” A real thing Trump just said.

To Wingnuts? The ones who are 100% certain about EVERYTHING?

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:45:00am

re: #355 Great White Snark

Nobody wants to acknowledge the kind that is fine with unions as an option for employees and collective bargaining but would oppose foolish terms in pensions and obligatory membership.

Define ‘foolish’.

If ‘foolish’ is the same as ‘exists’, which is what conservatives generally mean, then the first part of that sentence is mutually exclusive with the second part.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:45:12am

Whatever happened to Fozzie?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:45:34am

re: #396 dangerman

like those ancestry.com commercials. i though i was this, now i think i’m that. gotta immediately change all our family traditions!

Right, I remember reading my Nana’s journal that she wrote in her later years recalling her childhood. She recalled the great aunt that raised her and her sisters after their mother died as being Irish but the aunt was actually American born and bred. I have concluded that she probably had a bit of an Irish brogue though with parents (at least a mother) who spoke Irish as their only language. Warren believed in a family legend. It happens. The longer your family’s been in this country, the more you’ll have this. The irony is Turmp had this happen himself. He insisted that he was Swedish and not German for example.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:45:53am

re: #401 Jenner7

“Who’s 100% certain about anything?” A real thing Trump just said.

I’m sure about gravity and love.

And pizza. I am certain about pizza.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:46:09am

Good afternoon Lizards! Since it’s lunch on the east coast…

We recommend the BBQ goat ribs today

(No pictures downloaded yet from today’s wanderings - Utah and Omaha Beach plus a few D-Day/Normandy museums. Going to go see some famous sewing project tomorrow.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:46:53am

re: #399 Dark_Falcon

Because that sort of thing is intolerable, whomever does it. Political violence does immense damage if allowed to occur. And if Trump wins because people were scared into voting for him by violent protests them he’s likely to try to launch some kind of crackdown, which will be very ugly.

Thus those inclined to attack Trump supporters thus should refrain from doing so, for their own good.

I have no desire to attack Trump supporters but there has been actually egging on of violence by the candidate himself. No, the man didn’t deserve to be attacked at all. There’s no place at all for that but if people vote for Trump because they think he’s going to keep us safe from that sort of thing, they’re fucking idiots.

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makeitstop  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:48:41am

re: #371 Dark_Falcon

Yes, its reasonable to say that someone named Juan Hernandez isn’t being wise in voting for Donald Trump. But for protesters to break his nose in making their point was both stupid and wrong:

Granted that Juan should have been smart and thrown his hat away to avoid drawing hostile attention, the protesters who attacked him were clearly in the wrong. One way Trump might actually win is because violent protests caused his supporters to literally wave the bloody shirt.

It sounds like that guy is as prone to exaggeration as his hero.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:48:55am
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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:49:18am

re: #403 jaunte

Pocaghazi

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:49:33am

Donald Trump on protester: ‘I’d like to punch him in the face’
cnn.com

Yes. People, especially Presidential candidates, should avoid advocating political violence.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:49:36am

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Join my fellow lemmings in our march over the cliff!”

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:50:09am

“In the old days,” Trump added, protesters would be “carried out on stretchers.”
“We’re not allowed to push back anymore,” Trump said.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:50:42am

re: #414 jaunte

Donald Trump on protester: ‘I’d like to punch him in the face’
cnn.com

Yes. People, especially Presidential candidates, should avoid advocating political violence.

Yes, they should.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:50:53am

re: #414 jaunte

Donald Trump on protester: ‘I’d like to punch him in the face’
cnn.com

Yes. People, especially Presidential candidates, should avoid advocating political violence.

Trump would probably pay someone else to punch the guy in teh face and then brag about doing it himself. Trump loves to do a bunch of tough guy talk but he’s actually nothing but a sheltered coward who really thinks the late 1960’s dating scene is anywhere close to what men went through in Southeast Asia.

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Jenner7  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:51:27am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:51:53am

re: #416 jaunte

“In the old days,” Trump added, protesters would be “carried out on stretchers.”
“We’re not allowed to push back anymore,” Trump said.

Oh the good old days, yes, the good old days where being a rich white guy like Donald meant you could do pretty much anything and not have to worry about many consequences.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:53:15am

re: #419 Jenner7

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That says alot about you then, Mitt, you’re responsible for Trump in your own way. You wanted his endorsement, remember? You also liked getting Ted Nugent’s support too. I am glad Mitt condemns Trump by the way but his whole who me attitude and ignoring his own part in Trump’s rise pisses me off.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:53:28am

re: #419 Jenner7

And people wonder why 95%+ African Americans support the Democratic Party, or at the very least reject the Republican Party.

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:53:54am

re: #397 Nyet

I just happen to think that those who walk away kindly, don’t stir up trouble here in any way at all should not get beat up here, and not outed even in Private. I’m biased we are friends if some states apart.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:54:12am

re: #422 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

And people wonder why 95%+ African Americans support the Democratic Party, or at the very least reject the Republican Party.

Come on, it’s the free stuff. // And being stuck on the Dem plantation.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:54:25am

re: #416 jaunte

“In the old days,” Trump added, protesters would be “carried out on stretchers.”
“We’re not allowed to push back anymore,” Trump said.

This is why I worry more about Trump losing than Trump winning.

I don’t believe he will be elected because there are not, currently, enough crazies and fear addicts to elect him.

I do worry that when he loses that his supporters will realize they cannot win an election any more. So they’ll fall back on ‘2nd Amendment solutions’.

Remember, America went through a long campaign of terrorism once before, and the terrorists won.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:54:34am

re: #403 jaunte

Pocaghazi

OK, I’m done. Sorry about that but anything related to “BENGHAZI!!!11” makes me want to post stuff that’s actually from Libya.

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:56:05am

re: #405 Romantic Heretic

Define ‘foolish’.

If ‘foolish’ is the same as ‘exists’, which is what conservatives generally mean, then the first part of that sentence is mutually exclusive with the second part.

I never said that. Foolish is exemplified by fixed amount pensions. That’s why I call for chack and balance, not imbalances like some seek.
Or this. latimes.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:58:54am

re: #425 Romantic Heretic

This is why I worry more about Trump losing than Trump winning.

I don’t believe he will be elected because there are not, currently, enough crazies and fear addicts to elect him.

I do worry that when he loses that his supporters will realize they cannot win an election any more. So they’ll fall back on ‘2nd Amendment solutions’.

Remember, America went through a long campaign of terrorism once before, and the terrorists won.

It is a legitimate worry.

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Bass Reeves  Jun 11, 2016 • 9:59:26am

re: #426 Dark_Falcon

Why?

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:00:10am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

Trump would probably pay someone else to punch the guy in teh face and then brag about doing it himself. Trump loves to do a bunch of tough guy talk but he’s actually nothing but a sheltered coward who really thinks the late 1960’s dating scene is anywhere close to what men went through in Southeast Asia.

Trump is too old to fight. But I’d pay to go a few rounds with that ersatz bodyguard of his in a legit ring. 12 ounce gloves.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:00:36am

re: #423 Great White Snark

No one has been outed.

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Great White Snark  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:03:33am

re: #431 Nyet

You put the Nic with the name, though in a private box. It may not have been the first time, lots of years and posts gone by. The old rule was that’s rude to do. Old meaning before the private box. Just my imo, the private box did not change the rule. Just IMO.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:04:26am

re: #416 jaunte

“In the old days,” Trump added, protesters would be “carried out on stretchers.”
“We’re not allowed to push back anymore,” Trump said.

“Push back” and “beat senseless” are two different concepts.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:05:20am

re: #432 Great White Snark

You put the Nic with the name, though in a private box. It may not have been the first time, lots of years and posts gone by. The old rule was that’s rude to do. Old meaning before the private box. Just my imo, the private box did not change the rule. Just IMO.

Oh what pure bullshit. Where do you think I found the account in the first place? That’s right, in the LGF profile.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:05:31am

re: #433 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s the beauty of the Trump word cloud; you can get anything you want out of it.

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danarchy  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:05:37am

re: #405 Romantic Heretic

Define ‘foolish’.

If ‘foolish’ is the same as ‘exists’, which is what conservatives generally mean, then the first part of that sentence is mutually exclusive with the second part.

Foolish was the MBTA pension system in Massachusetts that said after 23 years of service you could retire and start collecting a pension of 80% of your highest salary immediately for the rest of your life. A system that saw folks who started as toll takers at the age of 18 retiring at 43 starting to collect a pension while they proceeded to move to another government agency so they could “double dip” and get a second state pension. Luckily some of this was corrected with recent legislation, but that shit was going on for generations before it was finally mitigated.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:07:17am

re: #429 Bass Reeves

Why?

It’s a running gag in this case, coupled with my having seen some good stuff from Libya I wanted to post here. It started out and mostly remains a way to whack at someone screaming about Benghazi as if what happened there on 09/11/12 was the entirety of the story. It’s my way of saying: There’s fighting left to do, keep your head in the game.

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stpaulbear  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:10:10am

re: #429 Bass Reeves

Why?

Because he needs to change the subject.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:11:38am
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Stanley Sea  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:12:55am

e65iRYZ4EymW6UX/wXT2nJetrbgMoyj0SZnoscFX2sLJgH7SoJyc1NSb83e+7r1egdtnqCJy/TO/oCbbFvEYp2R/U6yi3xpnAbCoZ+caZwR69xPnNGmAdVkcXw5Qc1aBm2cD683W5Odu7YSd8k/+9avr+Rp0TQPhaZJF2jOLMZQ=

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:18:18am

re: #440 Stanley Sea

oD2olV3teGlkDtgWf089EUxg/dvJubkWLOGw/cc5PWHQQp0/z7Oyp3g2bPcADD9F9q2Bb/IGkRU=

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:22:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:24:17am

in Tampa this morning:

Really, what has Donald done with his hair? The color has definitely changed.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:27:58am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

in Tampa this morning:

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Really, what has Donald done with his hair? The color has definitely changed.

I’d put money on him using L’oreal in his airplane sink.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:28:09am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

in Tampa this morning:

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Really, what has Donald done with his hair? The color has definitely changed.

Jesus, that’s as creepy as when he smooches Ivanka.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:28:27am
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SteelPH  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:28:33am

re: #444 Stanley Sea

Nah, he just found a new critter to rest on his dome.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:29:41am

re: #446 jaunte

Off to the chopping block. And Bernie is next. That’s how revolutions often are…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:30:18am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:30:26am

re: #196 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Looking at this guy’s Youtube channel is truly….breathtaking.

He’s crazy.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:32:24am

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

Must be all those ‘foreign’ colors.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:33:23am

re: #446 jaunte

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“Citizens, we have reason to fear that the Revolution, like Saturn, will successively devour all its children, and finally produce despotism, with the calamities that accompany it.”

- Pierre Vergniaud

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:34:23am

re: #215 MsJ

Can you e-mail me information on that?

My wife, when she comes to Canada, has to have her meds mailed here. It would be a lot simpler if I could just walk to my pharmacy for them.

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palomino  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:37:18am

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

Like how Katie Couric promoted ‘gun safety’ via a documentary featuring a Breitbart/O’Keefe-style deceptive edit?

So you think gun safety is a joke?

Have you ever thought that maybe you fit the profile? You’re an angry young white male, an admitted loner with poor social skills, and you have rigid right wing political views. And of course you’re a gun monomaniac, truly obsessed with little killing machines.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:39:19am
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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:39:48am

re: #444 Stanley Sea

I’d put money on him using L’oreal in his airplane sink.

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Trying to get closer to the actual color, which is white.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:40:14am

re: #454 palomino

Mind you, to a great extent, ‘white loner with poor social skills’ probably describes a lot of us.

Also, IIRC Dark doesn’t own a gun. Like a lot of us on the spectrum, he’s more obsessed with KNOWLEDGE ABOUT something like guns than actually owning/handling/shooting.

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jeffreyw  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:48:46am
… adopting a best-we-can-get strategy for some parts of the country leaves them vulnerable to a salami-slicing strategem.

Dammit, they already got to me with their alternating slice strategem:

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:50:50am

re: #453 Romantic Heretic

Can you e-mail me information on that?

My wife, when she comes to Canada, has to have her meds mailed here. It would be a lot simpler if I could just walk to my pharmacy for them.

There’s no special or secret “thing”;

1. make an appointment with any doctor (or walk in clinic, but beware, based on where you are the hours may be limited and it’ll be busy!). Call ahead if possible for an appointment at a doctors office. They’re usually booked out a couple of weeks.

2. tell them the issue (you have X and your doc at home prescribes Y - might be helpful to get the Canadian med name as my $165 a bottle Veramyst is not called that in Canada, I had to look it up),

3. Get script and go to any pharmacy.

You won’t get free healthcare but doc appointments are cheap (it was $25 when I was working in Saskatuwan [sic] and I had to go to the ER once in Ontario and the whole thing cost $250.00) and medicine itself is cheaper. Canada controls costs at the government level.

You don’t have to be Canadian to use their healthcare, you just have to pay for it. But it’s nothing like in the US where a visit to the ER can set you back ten grand.

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2016 • 10:56:23am

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palomino  Jun 11, 2016 • 11:03:08am

re: #457 Blind Frog Belly White

Mind you, to a great extent, ‘white loner with poor social skills’ probably describes a lot of us.

Also, IIRC Dark doesn’t own a gun. Like a lot of us on the spectrum, he’s more obsessed with KNOWLEDGE ABOUT something like guns than actually owning/handling/shooting.

I’m glad to hear that. We’re all probably a little safer as long as that’s true.

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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2016 • 11:08:24am
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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2016 • 11:10:06am
Bicycle Gang

· This is the first entry tagged: Bicycle Gang.

I look forward to the second one.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 11:16:51am

re: #371 Dark_Falcon

Yes, its reasonable to say that someone named Juan Hernandez isn’t being wise in voting for Donald Trump. But for protesters to break his nose in making their point was both stupid and wrong:

Granted that Juan should have been smart and thrown his hat away to avoid drawing hostile attention, the protesters who attacked him were clearly in the wrong. One way Trump might actually win is because violent protests caused his supporters to literally wave the bloody shirt.

This story is so obviously fake, I can’t believe anyone would swallow it. “Burning American flags”—yeah, right! And they just have to get that term “sucker-punched” in there. I don’t know why they think it makes them sound good, but people in real life don’t use that term. Just total agitprop, and stupid agitprop at that.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 11, 2016 • 11:31:12am

re: #459 MsJ

Thank you.

It looks like we’ll have to keep having her meds mailed. They won’t be covered by Medicaid.

I know what you mean about cheaper up here. A couple of years ago we had to go to emergency. We were sure it would cost what you said. Instead it was a tenth of that price.

Big relief.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 11, 2016 • 11:41:18am

re: #450 Eric The Fruit Bat

Looking at this guy’s Youtube channel is truly….breathtaking.

He’s crazy.

ABLEIST!!

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2016 • 12:35:23pm

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

Obama attempted de-facto Illegal immigrant amnesty, for starters. Obamacare being written too broadly and allowing executive agencies to change the rules when they become inconvenient is a second.

Oh Dark….

The GOP has made it explicitly known that they don’t want to fix the faults you describe. They want to burn Obamacare down to the grounds and piss on all those who gained or were now entitled to health insurance through Obamacare.

The GOP is the party of delay, deny, and destroy the ACA. They had no interest in fixing any of the limitations or problems with it. They want to cut its funding off, hoping to starve the program, even though insured rates are now at their highest levels ever and the percentage of uninsureds is at its lowest levels ever.

It would be even lower if GOP states engaged in the Medicare expansion allowed under the ACA, but the GOP fought that too - pushing the Supreme Court to that conclusion. The Court ruled the ACA legal, but that the feds couldn’t force the states into the expansion.

Currently, the GOP is fighting the ACA on the fringes - from attacking the birth control rules to claiming religious freedom to discriminate and limit access to health care coverage people are paying for through their premiums.

That’s the GOP you’re defending.

And that’s only on the ACA side.

Don’t get me started with the immigration policies that the GOP has put forth. Because that’s an even bigger shit show, starting with the presumed nominee’s deport’em’all BS. Trump effectively wants a police state to deport the illegals.

That’s the diametrically opposite position from small government, which is what the GOP claims to be.


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