Latest News From Orlando: Shooter Called 911, Pledged Allegiance to ISIS

A massive atrocity at a gay nightclub
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Terrible news from Florida today: Orlando Nightclub Shooter Called 911 to Pledge Allegiance to ISIS.

The gunman who opened fire at a gay Florida nightclub early Sunday, shooting over 100 people, had called 911 moments before to pledge allegiance to the leader of ISIS, law enforcement sources told NBC News.

But as investigators try to determine if extremism motivated Omar Mateen, 29, to attack the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, his family believes he was pushed over the edge by pure hate against the LGBT community.

Various law enforcement officials have identified the shooter as Mateen, who was born in New York and lived in Port St. Lucie on Florida’s eastern shores.

The attack, which claimed at least 50 lives, is considered the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history. While authorities are still investigating what motivated the gunman, the shooting is being considered an act of terrorism.

Mateen, who was carrying a handgun and AR-15-type rifle, died after a SWAT team stormed the club, police said. The shooter, who worked in security, according to the family, had active security officer and firearms licenses, records show.

Because of his name and heritage, there were immediate questions about Mateen’s possible ties to Islamic fundamentalism — but his father said it may have been a recent incident involving two men showing each other affection that set the gunman off.

“We were in Downtown Miami, Bayside, people were playing music. And he saw two men kissing each other in front of his wife and kid and he got very angry,” Mir Seddique, told NBC News on Sunday. “They were kissing each other and touching each other and he said, ‘Look at that. In front of my son they are doing that.’ And then we were in the men’s bathroom and men were kissing each other.”

“We are saying we are apologizing for the whole incident,” Seddique said. “We weren’t aware of any action he is taking. We are in shock like the whole country.”

Seddique added, “This had nothing to do with religion.”

NBC News

UPDATE at 6/12/16 10:46:54 am by Charles Johnson

Donald Trump wastes no time trying to capitalize politically on this horrible atrocity, of course.

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54 comments
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Jenner7  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:45:24am

CNN saying the arrest in Santa Monica is unrelated to shooting in Orlando.

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Black d20  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:46:06am

Yay. Now for a brief moment, everyone who normally hates gays will pretend to be their friends (while waiting for this to blow over before going back to hating them) and we can reset the timer until the next shooting happens that will provoke all of the hand-wringing and none of the actual action.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:46:51am

re: #2 Black d20

Yay. Now for a brief moment, everyone who normally hates gays will pretend to be their friends (while waiting for this to blow over before going back to hating them) and we can reset the timer until the next shooting happens that will provoke all of the hand-wringing and none of the actual action.

See, Rubio, Marco and Huckabee, Mike.

4
Jenner7  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:46:57am
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lockjawcanbefun  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:48:14am

re: #4 Jenner7

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:48:31am

Oh look, one of Chuccubus’ buddies:

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:50:46am

re: #4 Jenner7

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They both wrote tweets. //

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:52:03am

re: #6 SoundGuy 2016

Oh look, one of Chuccubus’ buddies:

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unproven innocence  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:52:22am
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Belafon  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:52:54am

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

I didn’t use a picture, but I replied by mentioning him.

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Nyet  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:53:54am

This once again underscores that whatever an ex-spouse can tell about a perp’s religious state of mind is unlikely to be terribly relevant. People get radicalized (and, more rarely, vice versa).

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Kryptik  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:54:45am

Is it a stretch for me to worry about violent backlash against “Muslims” (as in, actual Muslims plus the unfortunate souls who simply ‘look Muslim’) in the aftermath of this?

I just….god help me, this whole thing is already terrible. But the reverberations are going to be ugly as shit all over.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:55:31am

re: #10 Belafon

I didn’t use a picture, but I replied by mentioning him.

I didn’t reply to Forney, I just picked a good reply to embed and then I blocked his bigoted ass along with someone who replied to the reply with shit about “blacks in Chicago”.

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:55:45am

re: #12 Kryptik

Is it a stretch for me to worry about violent backlash against “Muslims” (as in, actual Muslims plus the unfortunate souls who simply ‘look Muslim’) in the aftermath of this?

I just….god help me, this whole thing is already terrible. But the reverberations are going to be ugly as shit all over.

Somewhat. But I also think “they were gay, not us” will mitigate that some.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:55:55am
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What a fucking moronic bigoted piece of shit.

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electrotek  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:56:30am
Is it a stretch for me to worry about violent backlash against “Muslims” (as in, actual Muslims plus the unfortunate souls who simply ‘look Muslim’) in the aftermath of this?

I just….god help me, this whole thing is already terrible. But the reverberations are going to be ugly as shit all over.

Don’t forget gay Muslims too.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:57:44am

re: #12 Kryptik

Is it a stretch for me to worry about violent backlash against “Muslims” (as in, actual Muslims plus the unfortunate souls who simply ‘look Muslim’) in the aftermath of this?

I just….god help me, this whole thing is already terrible. But the reverberations are going to be ugly as shit all over.

It’s unlikely, but not to be dismissed out of hand. Frankly though, I’m more worried about follow-on anti-gay attacks.

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:58:23am

re: #1 Jenner7

CNN saying the arrest in Santa Monica is unrelated to shooting in Orlando.

That just means that there were two shitbags that simultaneously thought that it would be a good idea to kill as many LBGT people as possible. Thanks, conservatives!!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:59:01am

re: #12 Kryptik

No, it isn’t.

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Teukka  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:59:15am

A thought. Could the call to 911 pledging allegiance to the Daeshbags just be an attempt to shift attention from his domestic violence history?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 10:59:53am

re: #18 stpaulbear

That just means that there were two shitbags that simultaneously thought that it would be a good idea to kill as many LBGT people as possible. Thanks, conservatives!!

When conservative candidates attend conferences and nod politely as anti-gay ministers say that gay people should be punished for being gay, there is some responsbility there. When anti-gay Christian churches fund anti-gay movements in Africa and around the world, there’s definitely responsibility to be had.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:00:03am

re: #11 Nyet

This once again underscores that whatever an ex-spouse can tell about a perp’s religious state of mind is unlikely to be terribly relevant. People get radicalized (and, more rarely, vice versa).

From what I understand, it’s far more common that those radicalized were not very religious. Many were petty crooks, drug users, and marginalized. Then somehow they got a laser-like focus on a mission when some latent part of their religious upbringing led them to a jihadi site or radical imam.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:00:39am

re: #9 unproven innocence

Just found the story on Rolling Stone, and came here.
At Least 50 Dead in Orlando Nightclub Shooting
Gunman opens fire on popular gay club in deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history

Though its inaccurate. The deadliest mass shooting in US history was 153 years ago.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:00:52am

re: #20 Teukka

A thought. Could the call to 911 pledging allegiance to the Daeshbags just be an attempt to shift attention from his domestic violence history?

I wouldn’t rule anything out. Fuck this guy though so much though. Motherfucker was uncomfortable with two men kissing so he kills a bunch of people? Shit a lot of things make me uncomfortable too but I don’t go on murderous rampages.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:01:24am

re: #23 Big Beautiful Door

Though its inaccurate. The deadliest mass shooting in US history was 153 years ago.

? What would you be referring to? Sincerely curious.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:01:50am

re: #12 Kryptik

Is it a stretch for me to worry about violent backlash against “Muslims” (as in, actual Muslims plus the unfortunate souls who simply ‘look Muslim’) in the aftermath of this?

I just….god help me, this whole thing is already terrible. But the reverberations are going to be ugly as shit all over.

There will likely be attacks on Muslims, and also random brown people the haters think are Muslim.

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electrotek  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:02:05am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

I wouldn’t rule anything out. Fuck this guy though so much though. Motherfucker was uncomfortable with two men kissing so he kills a bunch of people? Shit a lot of things make me uncomfortable too but I don’t go on murderous rampages.

How much longer before a right-wing nutbag goes on a rampage and slaughters Muslim worshipers at a mosque Hebron-style because “Muslims make him uncomfortable”?

Just like how I feared an attack on a nightclub would occur, I also fear the same with it happening to a mosque.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:02:12am

re: #25 HappyWarrior

? What would you be referring to? Sincerely curious.

Battle of Gettysburg.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:02:37am

re: #25 HappyWarrior

American Civil War, I think, possibly Battle of Gettysburg specifically.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:02:49am

re: #27 electrotek

How much longer before a right-wing nutbag goes on a rampage and slaughters Muslim worshipers at a mosque Hebron-style because “Muslims make him uncomfortable”?

Just like how I feared an attack on a nightclub would occur, I also fear the same with it happening to a mosque.

I don’t know and it doesn’t help matters at all that Trump is out there doing his shit and there being very little condemnation.

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meteor  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:02:54am

Mother of mercy. Ay, ay, ay.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:03:18am

re: #28 Big Beautiful Door

Battle of Gettysburg.

Aha. Though I thought Antietam actually was bloodier though Gettysburg was 3 days and not one.

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Nyet  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:03:57am

re: #22 Barefoot Grin

From what I understand, it’s far more common that those radicalized were not very religious. Many were petty crooks, drug users, and marginalized. Then somehow they got a laser-like focus on a mission when some latent part of their religious upbringing led them to a jihadi site or radical imam.

Exactly. So all those tweets claiming he wasn’t religious were just white noise.

34
HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:04:08am

Still need to say it but while people may kill people with guns, a gun makes it a lot easier. He wouldn’t have been able to do this with just a knife.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:04:10am

re: #20 Teukka

A thought. Could the call to 911 pledging allegiance to the Daeshbags just be an attempt to shift attention from his domestic violence history?

No. He doesn’t seem to have expected to survive, so he wouldn’t care about his history of attacking his wife. Claiming to be loyal to Daesh was his way of making his act of terror a transformation from being a loser to being a ‘martyr’.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:04:34am

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Aha. Though I thought Antietam actually was bloodier though Gettysburg was 3 days and not one.

True, if you limit your time frame to one day.

37
jaunte  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:04:43am

Sand Creek:
en.wikipedia.org

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:05:03am

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

Yep. That’s what I get out of it. His family doesn’t look too hot either.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:05:32am

re: #36 Big Beautiful Door

True, if you limit your time frame to one day.

In any case. 50 people dead by the hand of one man. Damn.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:05:42am

re: #28 Big Beautiful Door

Battle of Gettysburg.

That doesn’t work, given how many casualties there were caused by artillery.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:06:15am

re: #37 jaunte

Sand Creek:
en.wikipedia.org

Sand Creek would qualify.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:06:32am

re: #37 jaunte

Sand Creek:
en.wikipedia.org

That’s what I was thinking too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:06:40am

re: #37 jaunte

Sand Creek:
en.wikipedia.org

One of those things they don’t teach about US history, so white people grow up completely clueless about how awfully racist America has been.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:07:03am

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

That doesn’t work, given how many casualties there were caused by artillery.

That’s just a big gun.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:08:01am

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

That doesn’t work, given how many casualties there were caused by artillery.

A cannon is a gun. You shoot things with them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:08:23am

re: #44 Big Beautiful Door

re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White

Great minds.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:11:12am

re: #44 Big Beautiful Door

That’s just a big gun.

I do not agree, nor do I agree with calling an actual battle a “mass shooting”. Gettysburg was warfare, and that is different from a criminal or terrorist massacre.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:11:37am

re: #43 Big Beautiful Door

One of those things they don’t teach about US history, so white people grow up completely clueless about how awfully racist America has been.

Because too many whites think teaching things like this and other events are just PC designed to make white people feel guilty about being white rather than what they are that our nation while great has had its share of ugliness. They don’t teach the Tulsa Race Riots either which were quite honestly on par with the Russian pogroms.

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Great White Snark  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:12:22am

re: #4 Jenner7

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:13:26am

re: #49 Great White Snark

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I’d ask Susan Sarandon but she’s probably too busy boiling Elizabeth Warren’s bunny.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:13:48am

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

I do not agree, nor do I agree with calling an actual battle a “mass shooting”. Gettysburg was warfare, and that is different from a criminal or terrorist massacre.

That is true. However “mass shooting” certainly describes what happens in battles. Today could be accurately described as the largest non-combat related shooting in US history.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:15:08am

re: #37 jaunte

Sand Creek:
en.wikipedia.org

And Wounded Knee (150-300, depending on who did the counting).

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:25:46am

re: #20 Teukka

A thought. Could the call to 911 pledging allegiance to the Daeshbags just be an attempt to shift attention from his domestic violence history?

I’m looking at it as a final ‘fuck you’ before the shooting started.

Dude sounded like a rageaholic. If he knew this was going to be his final act, he probably figured he’d toss in a connection to terrorism just as a ‘Fuck you, everybody.’

I’m not buying that he suddenly found Allah just before opening fire on a club full of gays.

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Teukka  Jun 12, 2016 • 11:29:33am

re: #53 makeitstop

I’m looking at it as a final ‘fuck you’ before the shooting started.

Dude sounded like a rageaholic. If he knew this was going to be his final act, he probably figured he’d toss in a connection to terrorism just as a ‘Fuck you, everybody.’

I’m not buying that he suddenly found Allah just before opening fire on a club full of gays.

Yeah, that’s the vibe I’m getting too.


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