Trump’s Post-Election Scam Revealed: “Trump TV”

A channel where white racist cavemen can really find their voice
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Vanity Fair’s Sarah Ellison reports that Donald Trump has already figured out what he’ll do after losing the presidential election: Is Donald Trump’s Endgame the Launch of Trump News?

Trump is indeed considering creating his own media business, built on the audience that has supported him thus far in his bid to become the next president of the United States. According to several people briefed on the discussions, the presumptive Republican nominee is examining the opportunity presented by the “audience” currently supporting him. He has also discussed the possibility of launching a “mini-media conglomerate” outside of his existing TV-production business, Trump Productions LLC. He has, according to one of these people, enlisted the consultation of his daughter Ivanka Trump and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who owns the The New York Observer. Trump’s rationale, according to this person, is that, “win or lose, we are onto something here. We’ve triggered a base of the population that hasn’t had a voice in a long time.” For his part, Kushner was heard at a New York dinner party saying that “the people here don’t understand what I’m seeing. You go to these arenas and people go crazy for him.” (Both Kushner and Ivanka Trump did not respond to a request for comment.)

Trump, this person close to the matter suggests, has become irked by his ability to create revenue for other media organizations without being able to take a cut himself. Such a situation “brings him to the conclusion that he has the business acumen and the ratings for his own network.” Trump has “gotten the bug,” according to this person. “So now he wants to figure out if he can monetize it.”

He’s denying it, but that means less than nothing. Maybe he could call it ARN - the Alt-Right Network, featuring commentary by leading lights of the conservative movement such as David Duke and Jim Hoft.

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664 comments
1
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:39:36am

He is now the brand with the highest recognition rate in all the world…he can do with it whatever he wants. Except tell the truth.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:41:13am

Maybe Rage Furby wants a job there, which explains why he dumped Cruz and went all in for Trump a few months ago.

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Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:42:20am

If he wins this will be our version of Russia Today, and the rest might get banned from WH grounds. Imagine that here in Trumps America™

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lockjawcanbefun  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:42:56am
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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:43:00am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is now the brand with the highest recognition rate in all the world…he can do with it whatever he wants. Except tell the truth.

Is he really? I’d have to think there’s still a handful of brands with better recognition - Coca-Cola, Levi’s, Disney - and definitely with better favorability ratings.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:43:04am

Publicity to plug another of his scam enterprises was my first explanation, though I proposed it was for a topless women’s jai alai league.

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:43:08am

Open Sewer News.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:43:35am
Trump, this person close to the matter suggests, has become irked by his ability to create revenue for other media organizations without being able to take a cut himself.

THIS^^^

It’s the classic “what’s in it for me????”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:44:17am

re: #5 KGxvi

Is he really? I’d have to think there’s still a handful of brands with better recognition - Coca-Cola, Levi’s, Disney - and definitely with better favorability ratings.

He is certainly right up there with all those brands…and for Trump, positive or negative is irrelevant, only recognition counts. He would rather be reviled than irrelevant.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:47:17am

This is the Rage Furby’s ex-girlfriend from Claremont McKenna College.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:47:45am

TWNN - Trump White Supremacist Network. When FoxNews or RT aren’t sufficiently racist or extremist for you, accept no substitutes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:48:14am

President Trump will not be amused…
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Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:48:56am

I’ll be a little scarce today because SoCal Edison is cutting power in my neighborhood to fix some failing infrastructure.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:49:39am

So, what are the odds that Donald Trump becomes the 21st century’s John Birch? It’s got to be somewhere around 5:2, right?

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:49:57am
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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:50:02am

I keep waiting to hear they found Chris Christie face down in a pool somewhere.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:50:36am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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President Trump will not be amused…
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Doesn’t Congress say this about once a decade… and then promptly cede more power to the president?

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Testy Toad T  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:50:56am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I’ll be a little scarce today because SoCal Edison is cutting power in my neighborhood to fix some failing infrastructure.

MAKE UTILITIES GREAT AGAIN

Wait, no, that sounds like some sort of actual investment in America’s infrastructure. Better to pander to more unemployed racist dockworkers!

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Teukka  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:50:56am

re: #16 nines09

I keep waiting to hear they found Chris Christie face down in a pool somewhere.

I fear some right-wing cat will plant its ass on the copier after the attempt at Jo Cox’ life. :(

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:51:06am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

This is the Rage Furby’s ex-girlfriend from Claremont McKenna College.

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She’s done a little better for herself than Chuck has, I’d say.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:51:18am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

President Trump will not be amused…
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So, Ryan promises actual votes on declarations of war, rather than covering his eyes and saying “I don’t want to be responsible”?

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Testy Toad T  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:53:49am

But seriously, I encourage The Donald to set up a television news network so toxically racist and right-wing that no business will air it in their public spaces. Fox will lose their purpose and their public mindshare, Trump is an old man anyway, and maybe we can all go back to laughing at the talking heads on ESPN.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:58:44am

Let’s see, Trump has already:

* started a branded steak company, which failed.
* started a branded water company, which failed.
* started a branded vodka line, which failed.
* opened branded casinos in Atlantic City, which failed.

So how well do we think Trump TV will do? The market is already saturated, unless he intends to attract only the knuckledragger, angry-all-the-time demographic.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 16, 2016 • 8:59:33am

re: #20 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

She’s done a little better for herself than Chuck has, I’d say.

That must really piss him off. The HAE (Hot Asian Ex) doing better than him, especially in journalism.

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:00:31am

re: #24 Timothy Watson

That must really piss him off. The HAE (Hot Asian Ex) doing better than him, especially in journalism.

Well, to be honest, he is not a very high bar to clear. In journalism, or life for that matter.

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iossarian  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:00:35am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I’ll be a little scarce today because SoCal Edison is cutting power in my neighborhood to fix some failing infrastructure.

Hamster pep-talk time. Keep those wheels turning boys!

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:00:51am

re: #23 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Let’s see, Trump has already:

* started a branded steak company, which failed.
* started a branded water company, which failed.
* started a branded vodka line, which failed.
* opened branded casinos in Atlantic City, which failed.

So how well do we think Trump TV will do? The market is already saturated, unless he intends to attract only the knuckledragger, angry-all-the-time demographic.

They already have Fox News, so yeah, it’s a plan destined for bankruptcy court (where his creditors get screwed, and he walks out without a scratch).

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Jayleia  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:02:41am

So, I’m now on driving restrictions due to seizures, (very rare, and controlled by medication…as long as I’m taking them, I missed one…and woke up in the hospital).

Now we’ve just added anti-depressants to the mix. These terrify me. “Supposed to treat depression, but they MAY make you suicidal”, umm…

And NOW, I’ve just concluded that my manager isn’t just wound a bit too tight, but is actually delusional, I mean that literally. And by “wound a bit too tight”, I mean, I was watching our new training video about “active shooters”, and taking notes.

In lighter news, you know how we jokingly refer to gun magazines as porn for gun nuts? I found one of those magazines on the men’s room floor…I carefully picked that up for disposal, just in case they actually used it as porn.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:02:51am

re: #27 lawhawk

They already have Fox News, so yeah, it’s a plan destined for bankruptcy court (where his creditors get screwed, and he walks out without a scratch).

I’m unconvinced the carefully manicured product of Faux News could withstand a long-term conflict with the unabashed Id of the Party.

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Jay C  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:06:04am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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President Trump will not be amused…
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Not sure what’s scaring Ryan the most: the prospect of a President Trump, or the prospect of a President (Hillary) Clinton?

But I guess since the GOP is usually anxious to return the US to a Nineteenth-Century economy, the must think we need a Nineteenth-Century political structure to go with it.

(And Paul Ryan can grow his beard back to be in style…)

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:10:13am

Damnit!!!! Left the concert too early. Had my 8 and 5yo girls in tow on a school night…

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:11:32am

The usual suspects at freeperland and other RWNJ cesspools have picked up the Jo Cox story. Their take, naturally, is that it represents the failure and therefore utter uselessness of gun control, since the UK’s rigid gun laws failed to prevent it.
Proportionality, like cause and effect, is a difficult concept for these people.
A shooting on a public street, with anyone as the victim, is an extraordinary and shocking event in the UK. It rates national news, and intensive coverage, regardless of the circumstances, or of the status of those involved.
In this country, it is so common that it makes the news only if the circumstances are so unusual, or the victim so prominent, that it stands out from the other two hundred or so shootings that took place the same day. In the US, a significant percentage of people my age (67) have witnessed a shooting at some point in their lives and there are actually millions who have survived gunshot wounds (100,000+, year after year). Only a handful of Britons the same age have done so.
(Fwiw, as I described here back in 2011, I was the victim in the only civilian shooting I have ever witnessed, and it was an accident. It hurt a hell of a lot though and could easily have been fatal. There was also the irony of spending a year being shot at in Vietnam, without a scratch, and then nearly buying it in my own front yard. It did not even make the local news)

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BlackPearl  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:11:36am

re: #28 Jayleia

Um, combining paragraphs 3 and 4, shouldn’t you be quietly talking to HR?

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:12:07am

Great idea Donald. The greatest. Go for it big guy.

I love unintended comedy shows.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:13:51am

Welp, the power just cut off. Guess they weren’t kidding.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:13:59am

Witness descriptions of this… :(

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:14:34am

Bedtime here. I’m fascinated by this children’s choir from Taiwan. They sing songs in their own language (Paiwan), so I can’t understand a word of it, but the arrangements and the singing are top notch. They will attend an international choral festival in Hungary in August. Hope they do well.

Here’s another performance. I’m still looking for a complete video of their inauguration performance — the one that got Beijing’s nose bent out of shape.

石板屋下的約會 - Puzangala 希望兒童合唱團

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:15:24am

re: #31 Franklin

Damnit!!!! Left the concert too early. Had my 8 and 5yo girls in tow on a school night…

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I did get to see this though….

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Shimshon  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:15:32am

Poor conservatives, they need a new safe space after Faux Noise became “too moderate!”

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Jay C  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:18:03am

BUMMER BUMMER BUMMER

Jo Cox MP just died as a result of her wounds

LINK HERE

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Jayleia  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:18:38am

re: #33 BlackPearl

Well, that all happened last night, and…I’m thinking the magazine wasn’t him, it could be, but I found it before our shift technically started, and it is a HUGE place with gazillions (approximately) of people in and out on a daily basis.

But yeah, the whole conversations that he hasn’t had with any of the people he said he had them with thing had more than one of us going O_O?!

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:19:09am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

This is the Rage Furby’s ex-girlfriend from Claremont McKenna College.

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She found success. Must kill him.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:19:14am

re: #40 Jay C

BUMMER BUMMER BUMMER

Jo Cox MP just died as a result of her wounds

LINK HERE

That’s really very sad.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:19:30am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel

And never mind that she was both shot and stabbed - as if the shooting wasn’t sufficient.

It’s indeed a rarity in the UK to hear about shootings of this kind.

In the US, the shooter would have had access to pretty much any gun to their heart’s desire, and Rep. Giffords was nearly assassinated and Congress didn’t so much as lift a finger to address the availability of guns, or to close any of the loopholes, or strength any of the laws that might have reduced the chances of a shooting like that. They didn’t eliminate the sale of high capacity magazines either.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:20:03am

re: #40 Jay C

BUMMER BUMMER BUMMER

Jo Cox MP just died as a result of her wounds

LINK HERE

^%$@$#%!! WTF is WRONG with people?? The whole world is going stark raving mad.

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:20:47am

re: #40 Jay C

fuck

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Teukka  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:21:23am

re: #45 CuriousLurker

^%$@$#%!! WTF is WRONG with people?? The whole world is going stark raving mad.

Cue shitstorm at brightfart beating their chests at one commie less. Or worse. *smh*

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:21:31am

re: #40 Jay C

BUMMER BUMMER BUMMER

Jo Cox MP just died as a result of her wounds

LINK HERE

This is hideously awful.

Not that he cares about issues in GB, but has Alex Jones chimed in yet with False Flag!

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CuriousLurker  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:21:34am

And people like this ******* aren’t helping:

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:22:38am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

This is the Rage Furby’s ex-girlfriend from Claremont McKenna College.

Seriously? Interesting.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:22:47am

re: #40 Jay C

BUMMER BUMMER BUMMER

Jo Cox MP just died as a result of her wounds

LINK HERE

It’s pretty goddamned fucked up that this upsets me as much or more than three or five Americans getting gunned down.

Are we all desensitized? We are. We are desensitized like fucking crazy.

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Jay C  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:22:56am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel

The usual suspects at freeperland and other RWNJ cesspools have picked up the Jo Cox story. Their take, naturally, is that it represents the failure and therefore utter uselessness of gun control, since the UK’s rigid gun laws failed to prevent it.

Right: and the US’s more “enlightened” attitude toward guns might prevent stuff like this?
Former Representative Gabrielle Giffords might beg to differ.

Giffords at least survived her attack, though: Mrs. Cox seems not to have been as lucky. RIP, and condolences to her family.

ETA: Weird Coincidence Dept.: Jo Cox and I share(d) a birthday - a few years apart, needless to say

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:23:21am

re: #43 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s really very sad.

Damn :(

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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:23:25am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I’ll be a little scarce today because SoCal Edison is cutting power in my neighborhood to fix some failing infrastructure.

Give me the passwords to the servers and such. I’ll hold down the fort in your absence.

:)

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Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:25:11am

Insert a little digital voice stutter

Mu, Me, Mex, Mexico Will Pay For The Wall!
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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:25:28am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

House Speaker Paul Ryan promises to reclaim powers ceded to the presidency. t.co
— The Associated Press

False. Can only do that if he can get House GOP to pass stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:25:51am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:26:28am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel

The usual suspects at freeperland and other RWNJ cesspools have picked up the Jo Cox story. Their take, naturally, is that it represents the failure and therefore utter uselessness of gun control, since the UK’s rigid gun laws failed to prevent it.

If it weren’t for the rigid laws in the UK, the gunman could have had an AR and killed hell of a lot more people.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:28:23am

Lots of eyewitness details from the BBC, if you have the stomach for it. That’s enough for me for the time being. Later, lizards.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:29:15am

re: #50 Sir John Barron

Seriously? Interesting.

There is a considerable backstory to their break-up, which Rage Furby posted on his college blog in 2011 or so. He named her, so you can probably google the whole thing if you’re curious.

Even hearing only his side of the whole thing, I can conclude she was right to dump his ass.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:29:31am

re: #23 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Don’t underestimate the power of women’s beauty pageant newscasters. The Fox News business model of bubbly parades of T&A probably just isn’t hot enough for Trump who will trot out actual international beauty pageant winners in an endless sea of conspiracy “breaking news” and upskirt shots. The viewers will tune in. Expect lots of ads for Hooters and Viagra.

And this passes for “news” channel these days.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:29:50am

re: #49 CuriousLurker

And people like this ******* aren’t helping:

Let me translate this into non-dogwhistle: “The only good gay is a dead gay, and a gay who has been killed by a Muslim is the very best kind of gay, because that gives us an excuse to come after all the Muslims!”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:33:01am

re: #61 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Don’t underestimate the power of women’s beauty pageant newscasters. The Fox News business model of bubbly parades of T&A probably just isn’t hot enough for Trump who will trot out actual international beauty pageant winners in an endless sea of conspiracy “breaking news” and upskirt shots. The viewers will tune in. Expect lots of ads for Hooters and Viagra.

And this passes for “news” channel these days.

There has already been topless news on cable, and some Eastern European channel had a female broadcaster who broadcast almost topless. He’ll have to do better.

Trump TV is doomed. Mark my words.

And now, I really need to hit the sack.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:33:07am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel

Oh, well I’m glad the RWNJ aren’t politicizing this tragedy at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:33:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:33:45am

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There has already been topless news on cable, and some Eastern European channel had a female broadcaster who broadcast almost topless. He’ll have to do better.

Trump TV is doomed. Mark my words.

And now, I really need to hit the sack.

Doesn’t matter, he will still benefit from it personally and that is all that counts.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:34:02am

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There has already been topless news on cable, and some Eastern European channel had a female broadcaster who broadcast almost topless. He’ll have to do better.

Trump TV is doomed. Mark my words.

And now, I really need to hit the sack.

Trump TV itself will be doomed - but the Donald will pick up lots of investor’s dollars for his personal accounts before it falls.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:34:30am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

UK MP Jo Cox has died. Many politicians are followers; she was a leader—on Syria, health, human rights. RIP, Jo.

and she would still be alive if she had only had a gun and known how to use it!

/

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Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:34:32am

I’m fine without electricity, really I am. Fine, I said. I’M FINE. Why do you ask?

(compulsively scratching arms, twitching…)

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Jay C  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:36:47am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Hopefully, you have backup batteries, all fully charged, right?

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:37:25am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

I’m fine without electricity, really I am. Fine, I said. I’M FINE. Why do you ask?

(compulsively scratching arms, twitching…)

Why is the microwave taking so long? “You don’t have power.” AAHHHGGGGG

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:39:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:40:07am

Richard Armitage, who held top national security positions in the administrations of former Presidents George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan, said he would vote for presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton over her likely Republican rival, Donald Trump.

“If Donald Trump is the nominee, I would vote for Hillary Clinton,” Armitage, who served as a deputy secretary of State under Bush and as an assistant secretary of Defense under Reagan, told Politico on Thursday.

“He doesn’t appear to be a Republican. He doesn’t appear to want to learn about the issues. So I’m going to vote for Mrs. Clinton.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:40:12am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just saw. How awful.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:40:13am

Led Zeppelin’s Jimmy Page takes the stand: I didn’t steal that ‘Stairway to Heaven’ guitar riff

The estate of Spirit’s late guitarist, Randy Wolfe, also known as Randy California, contends the famous descending-chord progression that softly begins the crescendo-building Stairway was lifted from Wolfe’s Taurus, which was released a few years earlier.

Led Zeppelin has settled several similar copyright disputes over hit songs, though Stairway to Heaven has generated hundreds of millions of dollars over the years and could provide a windfall if Wolfe’s estate prevails.

Page claimed he didn’t even know he owned Spirit’s self-titled first album until a son-in-law told him comparisons between the tunes were popping up online and he unearthed it in his collection of 10,000 records and CDs. He said he only knew Fresh Garbage from hearing it on the radio.

Here is the song in question (4,637,983 views):

Taurus- Spirit

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Teukka  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:41:41am

Aw fuck, the great news keeps a’comin today :(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:42:07am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:42:30am

re: #45 CuriousLurker

I know.

I just have to hold on to the goodness. My kid has been posting all kinds of anti-homophobic stuff and links to help for the victims in Orlando. He’s ranted about how stupid homophobia is (one of his local metal musician friends is an out gay kid, who called my son when he and his boyfriend split up after 2 years, and my kid just sat and listened and offered our home as an escape hatch), called out others for using the word “faggot” and has offered to be there for anyone hurting over this. I am proud as hell of him. Even though right now he’s annoying the shit out of me for being super lazy around the house. But he’s not alone, a LOT of his friends are pissed about this whole thing, and I’m seeing them call out the hatred.

This hatred does get passed along, generation to generation, but I think it dies a little more each round. I see other of my son’s peers being stupid right wingers, but they haven’t grown up and broken away from their parents yet either. All we can do is encourage the kids headed down the better road and support them as they work to clean up the mess they are inheriting.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:42:34am

re: #76 Teukka

Aw fuck, the great news keeps a’comin today :(

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Feelin’ pretty great about the decision to not have any kids, to be brutally honest.

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iossarian  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:43:00am

Jo Cox: Sounds like a crazy guy, though probably influenced at least in part by nationalist sentiment. Note that no-one of any importance in the UK will now call for everyone to be armed to the teeth all the time.

Sad all around.

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Teukka  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:43:03am

re: #72 Franklin

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I see yours and raise you one:

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:43:39am

re: #76 Teukka

Aw fuck, the great news keeps a’comin today :(

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it melts any more and the city from At The Mountains of Madness is bound to appear.

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unproven innocence  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:43:45am

Looks like Trump is serving up a heap of shit sandwiches to Fox News and Alex Jones. Having mixed feelings about this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:43:52am

re: #23 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Let’s see, Trump has already:

* started a branded steak company, which failed.
* started a branded water company, which failed.
* started a branded vodka line, which failed.
* opened branded casinos in Atlantic City, which failed.

So how well do we think Trump TV will do? The market is already saturated, unless he intends to attract only the knuckledragger, angry-all-the-time demographic.

This will be All Trump All The Time exceeding Kim Jong-Un levels of aggrandizement and deification.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:44:07am
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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:44:28am

Very sad to hear about Jo Cox.

I want to say more, but don’t know what to say other than humans can be so screwed up.

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:44:59am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:45:08am

re: #79 Testy Toad T

Feelin’ pretty great about the decision to not have any kids, to be brutally honest.

We’re trying to have kids and I fear what the future will look like for them. I wish my parents had felt the same way but, at least with my dad, it’s always been “why should I care, I’ll be dead”.

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Teukka  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:45:22am

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:45:35am

Disgusting plot gets disgustingly thicker…

L.A. Pride Weapons Suspect Charged With Molesting 12-Year-Old Girl

Prosecutors told the AP that it was a “logical conclusion” that 20-year-old James Wesley Howell traveled to California to escape the investigation into allegations he had sex with a 12-year-old girl on state forestry property in Indiana last month.

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:48:05am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

Oh there is a whole lot more. But that’s the money shot right there. Rock and Blues tunes share a lot of similarities. But Jimmy had a knack….Hey, didn’t I hear that somewhere before…..?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:50:31am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:50:38am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

For what it’s worth, I believe Page. That chord progression is VERY common. In fact, it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to call it a cliché.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:51:09am

re: #90 Great White Snark

Disgusting plot gets disgustingly thicker…

L.A. Pride Weapons Suspect Charged With Molesting 12-Year-Old Girl

I think he was hoping to commit suicide by cop and take as many gays as he could.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:52:30am

We’ll be finding out a lot more about the suspect in the Jo Cox shooting, in particular how he got his weapon. Witnesses describe it as an “old fashioned looking” or “hand-made looking” handgun. Since he fired two shots with it, a revolver rather than something more crude seems likely.
I hope to fuck he wasn’t an American, though that seems very unlikely given his reported use of nationalist slogans.

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retired cynic  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:53:27am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

I’m fine without electricity, really I am. Fine, I said. I’M FINE. Why do you ask?

(compulsively scratching arms, twitching…)

Louise Penny’s Inspector Gamache novels have a FINE definition: Fucked Up, Insecure, Neurotic and Egotistical. <grin>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:53:48am

re: #95 Shiplord Kirel

Reports are that she was shot three times.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:55:34am

re: #95 Shiplord Kirel

We’ll be finding out a lot more about the suspect in the Jo Cox shooting, in particular how he got his weapon. Witnesses describe it as an “old fashioned looking” or “hand-made looking” handgun. Since he fired two shots with it, a revolver rather than something more crude seems likely.
I hope to fuck he wasn’t an American, though that seems very unlikely given his reported use of nationalist slogans.

Collector’s item? WW2 souvenir perhaps?

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:58:19am

re: #94 Belafon

I think he was hoping to commit suicide by cop and take as many gays as he could.

I think he was just looking to go out in a blaze of presumed glory. From the sounds of it, he had plenty of issues. It will be interesting, since he wasn’t killed, to see what actually comes of all of this when/if it gets to trial.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 9:59:08am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

Led Zeppelin’s Jimmy Page takes the stand: I didn’t steal that ‘Stairway to Heaven’ guitar riff

Here is the song in question (4,637,983 views):

[Embedded content]

Video

Then this needs a lawsuit: stairway to gilligan’s

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:02:38am

The Guardian has already identified the suspect as Thomas Mair, a local handyman

Neighbours on the Fieldhead council estate said the suspect had lived here 40 years with a female relative, who died a number of years ago, leaving him alone.

Kathleen Cooke, 62, said she and her daughter, Emma John, 30, had seen Mair half an hour before the attack.

“I looked out of the window at about 12.30 and he walked past a carrying his bag, wearing a cap. He looked perfectly calm and normal,” said John. “He was a quiet person, kept himself to himself. We knew him around here from when he used to do our gardens,” said Cooke.

One woman, who gave her name just as Karen, said Mair did her mother’s garden regularly until a few years ago. He didn’t seem to have a job, she said.

Local teenagers said he was a quiet man unless they congregated on the wall behind his house, which he didn’t like. “He’d shout at us,” said a 17-year-old. “All this we are hearing now is totally at odds with the man we thought we knew,” said one neighbour. “We knew him as someone who helped out, who did volunteering.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:03:19am

re: #95 Shiplord Kirel

Loner, far-right nationalist, mental issues.
heavy.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:04:47am

Ted Cruz pontificating on the Senate floor right now using Orlando to bash Obama and Islam.

*spit*

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:05:57am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz pontificating on the Senate floor right now using Orlando to bash Obama and Islam.

*spit*

Cruz owes his entire career in the Senate to Obama hatred.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:06:06am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz pontificating on the Senate floor right now using Orlando to bash Obama and Islam.

*spit*

Because that is what this nation needs to reduce gun violence, balance the budget and fix our crumbling infrastructure…

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:06:44am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz pontificating on the Senate floor right now using Orlando to bash Obama and Islam.

*spit*

President Cruz? Thanks. No. He’s a shining example of the right wing. Vile, petty and mean. Useless. Toad.

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Teukka  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:06:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:09:17am

Cruz calling the gun violence filibuster yesterday a “political circus”.
Keeps repeating radical islamic terrorism and jihad.
Totally blaming Obama for Ft. Hood and insisting that Obama knew all about the attack ahead of time.
Waving the the Second Amendment around like the Bible…oh, wait…

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A Mom Anon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:09:34am

re: #107 Teukka

Yeah, um, oceans don’t protect you from exported/imported hate. Note our hate damaged evangelicals shipping their anti-gay hate to Uganda and other parts of Africa. If we’re gonna claim we’re an example to the world then we get to own the shitty stuff too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:10:35am

Cruz saying it’s been proven there is a connection between the White House and Islamic terrorists.

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retired cynic  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:11:05am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz saying it’s been proven there is a connection between the White House and Islamic terrorists.

Yes, he’s had them targeted.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:11:10am

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz calling the gun violence filibuster yesterday a “political circus”.
Keeps repeating radical islamic terrorism and jihad.
Totally blaming Obama for Ft. Hood and insisting that Obama knew all about the attack ahead of time.
Waving the the Second Amendment around like the Bible…oh, wait…

He’s a terrible person in an even more terrible party.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:12:14am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz saying it’s been proven there is a connection between the White House and Islamic terrorists.

Yeah fuck Ted Cruz. This is why the GOP trying to act like Trump is somehow not speaking for them is bullshit. This is the runner up of the GOP primary claiming that POTUS is an Islamic terrorist sympathizer, fuck him and his party.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:12:26am

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz calling the gun violence filibuster yesterday a “political circus”.

From the asshole who held a filibuster and shut down the government to prevent Americans from getting healthcare.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:12:36am

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well that’ll fix everything.

I propose legislation that you have to take a college level FUCKING CIVICS TEST before you can run for any office. And this shit of indirectly calling President Obama a traitor is just whipping more people into a hateful and violent frenzy. Blood is on his pasty white hands just as much as anyone else’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:12:50am

jeebus…Ted Cruz is completely unleashing his insanity.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:13:01am

re: #115 A Mom Anon

Well that’ll fix everything.

I propose legislation that you have to take a college level FUCKING CIVICS TEST before you can run for any office. And this shit of indirectly calling President Obama a traitor is just whipping more people into a hateful and violent frenzy. Blood is on his pasty white hands just as much as anyone else’s.

It’s Neo-McCarthyism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:13:41am

re: #114 Dr. Matt

From the asshole who held a filibuster reading Green Eggs and Ham and shut down the government to prevent Americans from getting healthcare.

I added a bit there…

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:14:05am

re: #23 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Let’s see, Trump has already:

* started a branded steak company, which failed.
* started a branded water company, which failed.
* started a branded vodka line, which failed.
* opened branded casinos in Atlantic City, which failed.

So how well do we think Trump TV will do? The market is already saturated, unless he intends to attract only the knuckledragger, angry-all-the-time demographic.

But companies failing doesn’t mean that he doesn’t profit from them.

washingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:15:04am

re: #91 nines09

Oh there is a whole lot more. But that’s the money shot right there. Rock and Blues tunes share a lot of similarities. But Jimmy had a knack….Hey, didn’t I hear that somewhere before…..?

Spirit played some gigs with Zep and I had always heard California and Page did some jamming together during those days. And since Page and Plant were good at nicking riffs and lines of many a song I’m would not be surprised if this wasn’t another instance.

But you know what makes me sad…I’ve been hearing crap around about “who the hell was Spirit…a bunch of bums” and the like.

I was and still am a huge Spirit fan. To me 12 Dreams of Doctor Sardonicus is still one of the great albums of my youth. They were very early adding jazz and world rhythms to rock music. Long live Spirit!

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:15:49am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

For what it’s worth, I believe Page. That chord progression is VERY common. In fact, it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to call it a cliché.

Now, or then?

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A Mom Anon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:17:27am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Bingo. And that doesn’t even cover it all honestly. I wouldn’t even throw a Hitler analogy into this. It’s more like the build up to the genocide in Rwanda. The “Othering” of neighbors and community members, we’ve already heard pundits refer to people as scum, thugs and cockroaches. Selling lies about gay people being pedophiles, immigrants being rapists and drug dealers, and there have been call for and praises of the deaths of those “Others”. It CAN happen here, it is happening, just not on the massive scale Rwanda experienced. Doesn’t make this shit any less dangerous.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:17:33am

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

Richard Armitage, who held top national security positions in the administrations of former Presidents George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan, said he would vote for presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton over her likely Republican rival, Donald Trump.
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

Damn. That’s edging into to Bolton territory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:17:39am

Cruz: “The question needed to be asked ‘why is the ball being dropped over and over again?’ ” And again directly blames Obama.

Cruz keeps ranting about attacking law-abiding citizens instead of terrorism.

Says ISIS needs to be defeated not by “pinprick response”, calls for overwhelming military action.

jeebus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:19:12am

oh, now Cruz is going after Syrian refugees…

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:19:14am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz: “The question needed to be asked ‘why is the ball being dropped over and over again?’ ” And again directly blames Obama.

Cruz keeps ranting about attacking law-abiding citizens instead of terrorism.

Says ISIS needs to be defeated not by “pinprick response”, calls for overwhelming military action.

jeebus.

The shooter was a law abiding citizen up until he opened fire.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:19:27am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz pontificating on the Senate floor right now using Orlando to bash Obama and Islam.

*spit*

So it was either a know nothing, egomaniac or a bigoted, grandstanding Senator as choices for Republican voters in 2016? Wonder what they’ll cough up in 2020.

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whitebeach  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:20:24am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is now the brand with the highest recognition rate in all the world…he can do with it whatever he wants. Except tell the truth.

Say, you know who else was once “the brand with the highest recognition rate in all the world”?

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plansbandc  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:20:25am

Before Obama, was there ever an incidence of someone calling the President a traitor on the Senate floor?

What a loathsome piece of shit.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:21:42am

re: #130 plansbandc

Before Obama, was there ever an incidence of someone calling the President a traitor on the Senate floor?

What a loathsome piece of shit.

Not since the Civil War.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:22:24am

re: #131 Aunty Entity Dragon

Not since the Civil War.

I prefer to call it the War of Y’all Fuckin’ Lost, Get Over It, but your mileage may vary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:22:28am

Cruz calling for a three-year moratorium on accepting refugees from any country where there are Islamic terrorists.

Now Cruz is cheerleading for the NRA.

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retired cynic  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:22:31am

re: #130 plansbandc

Before Obama, was there ever an incidence of someone calling the President a traitor on the Senate floor?

What a loathsome piece of shit.

I wouldn’t be surprised if someone didn’t do it to FDR. They got pretty nasty!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:22:46am

re: #121 Great White Snark

Embedded Image

Bill O’Reilly and Gretchen Carlson Both Called for Assault Weapons Bans, Ushering in the Apocalypse

Calling for a ban of assault weapons sales after 50 people were slaughtered doesn’t make O’Reilly or Carlson worthy of any praise. It just makes them human. Anyone with a brain should understand that there is no reason for anyone to own a semi-automatic weapon. Let’s see if Republican politicians come around to doing the right thing.

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blueraven  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:23:08am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

For what it’s worth, I believe Page. That chord progression is VERY common. In fact, it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to call it a cliché.

I believe All Along the Watchtower has a lot of the same chord progressions as the end of Stairway to Heaven. At least the way I play them!

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:23:21am
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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:23:23am

re: #23 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Let’s not forget that Palin created her own “news network” a couple of years ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:24:17am

Cruz screaming about keeping America safe, but keeps whining about terrorists and refugees.

Hey Cruz, 33,000 Americans dead last year. They weren’t killed by foreign terrorists.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:24:22am

re: #138 Frankie Five Angels

Let’s not forget that Palin created her own “news network” a couple of years ago.

And how’s that going?

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:24:45am

re: #132 Testy Toad T

I prefer to call it the War of Y’all Fuckin’ Lost, Get Over It, but your mileage may vary.

The War of Southern Treason

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:24:49am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz pontificating on the Senate floor right now using Orlando to bash Obama and Islam.

*spit*

He’s working hard to get that sweet VP position with Trump. Palin better step up her game.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:24:54am

re: #140 Sir John Barron

Ummmm, poorly.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:25:37am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz: “The question needed to be asked ‘why is the ball being dropped over and over again?’ ” And again directly blames Obama.

Cruz keeps ranting about attacking law-abiding citizens instead of terrorism.

Says ISIS needs to be defeated not by “pinprick response”, calls for overwhelming military action.

jeebus.

So, this is going to end with Cruz offering a AUMF against ISIS, right?

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A Mom Anon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:25:41am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

The NRA must have cut him a check this morning.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:26:00am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz calling for a three-year moratorium on accepting refugees from any country where there are Islamic terrorists.

Now Cruz is cheerleading for the NRA.

Could the USA be classified as a country with Islamic terrorists, given the San Berdo attacks, the Fort Hood shootings?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:26:23am

re: #144 KGxvi

So, this is going to end with Cruz offering a AUMF against ISIS, right?

Strange, I always thought of Cruz as a pin prick.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:26:44am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz: “The question needed to be asked ‘why is the ball being dropped over and over again?’ ” And again directly blames Obama.

Cruz keeps ranting about attacking law-abiding citizens instead of terrorism.

Says ISIS needs to be defeated not by “pinprick response”, calls for overwhelming military action.

jeebus.

If we had dropped more bombs on the country of ISIS the Orlando shooting would never have happened.

149
Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:27:39am

Whoa… littlegreenfootballs.com

“If Donald Trump is the nominee, I would vote for Hillary Clinton,” Armitage told POLITICO in a brief interview. “He doesn’t appear to be to be a Republican, he doesn’t appear to want to learn about issues. So I’m going to vote for Mrs. Clinton.”

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:27:50am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

Led Zeppelin’s Jimmy Page takes the stand: I didn’t steal that ‘Stairway to Heaven’ guitar riff

Here’s is the song in question (4,637,983 views):

Page claimed he didn’t even know he owned Spirit’s self-titled first album until a son-in-law told him comparisons between the tunes were popping up online and he unearthed it in his collection of 10,000 records and CDs. He said he only knew Fresh Garbage from hearing it on the radio.

Except for the fact that LZ toured with Spirit in 1968 - and the liner notes for the first Spirit album (written by Randy Wolfe) actually mention that Page had taken quite an interest in the song ‘Taurus.’

Love ya, Pagey, but cut the crap. Then cut the damn check.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:28:14am

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, now Cruz is going after Syrian refugees…

If all Syrian refugees had been blocked from the US, the New York-born, Orlando shooter would never have killed all those people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:28:42am

Cruz finally stopped yelling.
He must have gotten enough video for ad spots, fundraising, and invites elaborate more to Fox News.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:28:56am

re: #128 Patricia Kayden

Goebbels’ corpse.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:29:16am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz saying it’s been proven there is a connection between the White House and Islamic terrorists.

Shut up Ted. Your big day in the sun is over. Over. Go home…run along.

I wonder if he will get reelected? Any Texans have a feel for his current status?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:29:27am

re: #149 Great White Snark

Whoa… littlegreenfootballs.com

Hey I don’t have to learn about issues, you people have to learn about me!

156
Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:29:49am

Watch This Guy Vape the World’s Hottest Chili Pepper

Vaping Carolina Reaper with a triple surprise.

Start watching at about the 4m 11s mark.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:30:03am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz saying it’s been proven there is a connection between the White House and Islamic terrorists.

Seriously, we’re back to this?

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:30:16am

re: #37 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In some ways I think they look Polynesian in dress and song styling.

Good stuff though.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:30:23am

re: #146 Sir John Barron

Could the USA be classified as a country with Islamic terrorists, given the San Berdo attacks, the Fort Hood shootings?

Yes. Both in domestic-domestic and then exported terrorism.

Domestic-domestic: San Bernardino, Fort Hood, etc.
Exported? Awlaki. Adam Gahdan. Etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:30:45am

re: #157 Sir John Barron

Seriously, we’re back to this?

He’ll never stop with it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:30:46am

At what point is it fair to call the NRA a terrorist organization?

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:30:47am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

I’m fine without electricity, really I am. Fine, I said. I’M FINE. Why do you ask?

(compulsively scratching arms, twitching…)

It is completely amazing how much we rely on electricity and how little we think about it until we don’t have it.

I went through that a few years ago….the thought process of “if we ever have an incident where we lose power for an extended period of time, I will likely die.” I can hunt, but don’t like it. I know how to start a fire. But I live where it’s really cold. I do not know how to sustain my life if I was thrown back into the stone age.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:31:55am

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

Unindicted coconspirator? /

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Charles Johnson  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:32:18am

re: #136 blueraven

In fact, the Spirit song doesn’t match Stairway to Heaven in several ways.

The second chord in Stairway has a ninth interval on top - Spirit’s version doesn’t. And the end of the chord progression is completely different.

Zeppelin did lift ideas and music from some sources, but I don’t believe this is one of them.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:32:27am

Gun Shop Owner: AR-15’s Flying Off Shelves at $500 a Pop

Since the Orlando nightclub shooting on Sunday, gun sales have rapidly increased throughout the United States.

Adventure Outdoors Owner Jay Wallace told Fox Business Network’s Stuart Varney that sales of AR-15s and other firearms have “really kicked up” since Sunday

[…]

Wallace claimed that he has sold more than 15 AR-15’s per hour and may know the reasons as to why there is such a rise in sales.

“[People] are afraid that the government is going to take [guns] away and there are folks that are in fear because of the times that we are living in today and those are two big reasons,” he said.

More clueless and untrained idiots owning a firearm that have no business owning.

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Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:32:48am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

I’m fine without electricity, really I am. Fine, I said. I’M FINE. Why do you ask?

(compulsively scratching arms, twitching…)

Keep Calm Your Internet’s On - Funny AT&T TV Commercial

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:32:55am

re: #120 ObserverArt

Spirit played some gigs with Zep and I had always heard California and Page did some jamming together during those days. And since Page and Plant were good at nicking riffs and lines of many a song I’m would not be surprised if this wasn’t another instance.

But you know what makes me sad…I’ve been hearing crap around about “who the hell was Spirit…a bunch of bums” and the like.

I was and still am a huge Spirit fan. To me 12 Dreams of Doctor Sardonicus is still one of the great albums of my youth. They were very early adding jazz and world rhythms to rock music. Long live Spirit!

Spirit were prototypical rock stars - hell, Hendrix cited Randy as his favorite guitarist.

They were there before Zeppelin. And they were a hell of a band.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:33:28am

re: #162 MsJ

It is completely amazing how much we rely on electricity and how little we think about it until we don’t have it.

I went through that a few years ago….the thought process of “if we ever have an incident where we lose power for an extended period of time, I will likely die.” I can hunt, but don’t like it. I know how to start a fire. But I live where it’s really cold. I do not know how to sustain my life if I was thrown back into the stone age.

I joke that if society collapses, we’ll all be huddled around outlets with our gadgets hoping the electrical gods will send sustenance.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:33:48am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just not in the way he believes.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:34:00am

Magic 8 ball says, GOP chances in November looking hazy.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:34:00am

I think we’re going to need more twitterbots between now and November.

But on Wednesday, a few ardent Trump supporters were bested by one man from Kentucky, and his own Twitter bot, “@AssBott.” According to the Daily Beast, @AssBott is programmed to respond automatically every time Donald Trump tweets, and lately, its handlers have chosen to lead with the Clinton-coined “Delete Your Account.” Its replies are pre-programmed so they appear instantaneously, and often right under the original tweet.

On Tuesday, @AssBott responded to a Trump tweet about LGBT rights with its patented “Delete Your Account,” and attracted loads of Trump’s followers. Thanks to their tenacity and apparent inability to recognize a robot when they see one, the Trump followers argued with @AssBott “well into Tuesday night.”

Non-Trump tweeters end up getting random word salad responses that pull words from the tweeter’s prior posts (I think).

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:34:20am

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, now Cruz is going after Syrian refugees…

Is he running for VP?

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:35:07am

re: #159 lawhawk

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:36:30am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

Led Zeppelin’s Jimmy Page takes the stand: I didn’t steal that ‘Stairway to Heaven’ guitar riff

Here is the song in question (4,637,983 views):

[Embedded content]

Video

Well, it’s closer than that abomination of a decision between Marvin Gaye’s family and Pharrel’s Happy song (one he did for Robin Thicke, I think.

I can hear a similarity, but honestly, how many way can you put notes together? I don’t hear anything that sounds like a blatant rip off.

But what do I know?

** edited

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:37:05am

I find fights over who created what musical sound equivalent to choosing whether Newton or Leibniz invented calculus.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:37:40am

re: #175 Belafon

I find fights over who created what musical sound equivalent to choosing whether Newton or Liebniz invented calculus.

It’s all about the benjamins.

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:39:04am

Garrison Keillor weighs in on Trump: The Punk Who Would Be President

It is the most famous ducktail in America today, the hairdo of wayward youth of a bygone era, and it’s astonishing to imagine it under the spotlight in Cleveland, being cheered by Republican dignitaries. The class hood, the bully and braggart, the guy revving his pink Chevy to make the pipes rumble, presiding over the student council. This is the C-minus guy who sat behind you in history and poked you with his pencil and smirked when you asked him to stop. That smirk is now on every front page in America. It is not what anybody — left, right or center — looks for in a president. There’s no philosophy here, just an attitude.

He is a little old for a ducktail. By the age of 70, most ducks have moved on, but not Donald. He is apparently still fond of the sidewalls and the duck’s ass in back and he is proud as can be of his great feat, the first punk candidate to get this close to the White House. He says that the country is run by a bunch of clowns and that he is going to make things great again and beat up on the outsiders who are coming into our neighborhood. His followers don’t necessarily believe that — what they love about him is what kids loved about Johnny Rotten and Sid Vicious, the fact that he horrifies the powers that be and when you are pro-duck you are giving the finger to Congress, the press, clergy, lawyers, teachers, cake-eaters, big muckety-mucks, VIPs, all those people who think they’re better than you — you have the power to scare the pants off them, and that’s what this candidate does better than anybody else.

I’m thinking of starting to call Trump ‘Duck’s Ass’ after reading this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:41:44am

re: #174 MsJ

Well, it’s closer than that abomination of a decision between Marvin Gaye’s family and Pharrel’s Happy.

I can hear a similarity, but honestly, how many way can you put notes together? I don’t hear anything that sounds like a blatant rip off.

But what do I know?

It’s a win/win for the plaintiff’s estate: thousands of people are listening to a song that would have otherwise been a minor footnote in musical history.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:42:28am

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s all about the benjamins.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:42:33am

re: #136 blueraven

I believe All Along the Watchtower has a lot of the same chord progressions as the end of Stairway to Heaven. At least the way I play them!

Well, there you go! Randy California stole it from Dylan/Hendrix when he lived in Queens and jammed with Hendrix. Heh.

By the way Randy Wolfe became Randy California from Jimi Hendrix jamming with him while also having another friend named Randy. So one was Randy Texas and the other Randy California to keep the names straight.

Sadly California died saving his son from a rip tide in Hawaii. His son made it back to the beach…Randy did not. : (

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:42:35am

re: #168 Belafon

I joke that if society collapses, we’ll all be huddled around outlets with our gadgets hoping the electrical gods will send sustenance.

As long as the camps have wifi.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:44:51am

re: #136 blueraven

I believe All Along the Watchtower has a lot of the same chord progressions as the end of Stairway to Heaven. At least the way I play them!

Robert Plant and Jimmy Page were doing what stoners do: ripping bong hits and watching reruns of Gillgan’s Island, which is where they ripped off the song!!!

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stpaulbear  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:45:24am

So is Cruise’s ranting speech today a campaign speech (in his mind) in case Trump gets the boot?

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:45:28am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s a win/win for the plaintiff’s estate: thousands of people are listening to a song that would have otherwise been a minor footnote in musical history.

To me it wasn’t even close. Not even in the same country let alone ballpark.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:45:36am

re: #168 Belafon

I joke that if society collapses, we’ll all be huddled around outlets with our gadgets hoping the electrical gods will send sustenance.

No we’ll just stand around and record the whole thing on our phones.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:46:28am

re: #184 MsJ

I noticed some faint similarities but as Charles said, it’s a common chord porgression.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:47:01am

re: #167 makeitstop

Spirit were prototypical rock stars - hell, Hendrix cited Randy as his favorite guitarist.

They were there before Zeppelin. And they were a hell of a band.

California had some of the longest sustain notes going at the time. I always liked his slightly fuzz tone on them too.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:47:18am

re: #154 ObserverArt

Shut up Ted. Your big day in the sun is over. Over. Go home…run along.

I wonder if he will get reelected? Any Texans have a feel for his current status?

I’m a Texan and he’s beloved here. A sure lock
for reelection to the senate in 2018, BUT my feeling is that he has no interest in it because he simply can not get anything done there, and he’s clearly going to run for president in 2020.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:48:38am

re: #187 ObserverArt

California had some of the longest sustain notes going at the time. I always liked his slightly fuzz tone on them too.

And the Twelve Dreams of Dr Sardonicus was also one of the early rock concept albums.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:49:53am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:51:02am

re: #190 FormerDirtDart

We also don’t have a 2nd amendment. Makes things easier.

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:51:33am

re: #187 ObserverArt

California had some of the longest sustain notes going at the time. I always liked his slightly fuzz tone on them too.

While were speaking of, umm, appropriations - Randy’s guitar work in the song ‘Aren’t You Glad’ presages a lot of stuff that Robert Fripp used in King Crimson.

Aren’t You Glad - Spirit [California] - 1968

Pretty cool solo work in that song, too.

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:51:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:52:31am

re: #190 FormerDirtDart

Canada has 3x as many Muslims per capita as US but few mass killings. Got that Islamophobes?

The stat that I encountered was that in 2015 Muslims make up slightly less than 1% of the US population and were responsible for….slightly less than 1% of all mass shootings in the USA.

In other words, no better or worse than any other minority or majority group…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:54:16am

Threatening graffiti in a Humana bathroom referenced the recent mass shooting in Orlando and gay pride festivities in Louisville this weekend, according to law enforcement and company sources. In response, Humana has stepped up security, and federal and local authorities are investigating.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation and the company are tight-lipped about the nature of the threat. However, a Humana employee told Insider Louisville that “it was a threatening message that was rumored to contain a date and time as well as referencing the Orlando shooting.”

John E. Kuhn, U.S. attorney for the Western District of Kentucky, also told Wave 3 News that the graffiti referenced gay pride festivities this weekend.

sigh…

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:54:45am

Josh Marshall sums up the state of the Trump campaign in one sentence:

It would be like sitting in the stands watching a football game. But one team isn’t even taking the field because the quarterback is on the sidelines knifing his coaches and teammates.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:55:19am

re: #190 FormerDirtDart

Similar stats apply to Germany too - 2.9% of Germans are Muslim. US has 0.9% Muslims.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:56:57am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the Twelve Dreams of Dr Sardonicus was also one of the early rock concept albums.

There were two albums that I bought at the same time back when I was in high school. In a way they both have a bit of the same feel to them and both were California bands.

Spirit - Twelve Dreams of Dr Sardonicus

Iron Butterfly - Metamorphosis

I have CDs of both…and still play them. 1970. Man 1969 and 1970 had some powerful stuff.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:58:18am

re: #192 makeitstop

While were speaking of, umm, appropriations - Randy’s guitar work in the song ‘Aren’t You Glad’ presages a lot of stuff that Robert Fripp used in King Crimson.

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Pretty cool solo work in that song, too.

There you go. There is the sustain and tone!!!

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:59:00am
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jaunte  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:00:10am

“Bullets shot by assault weapons are designed to wobble upon entering the body to maximize damage. The bullet in this case obliterated the tibia and surrounding muscles before exit.”

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:04:50am

Sorry…I had to feed a jones! I needed to hear Butterfly’s Doug Ingle sing again. Loved his voice.

Iron Butterfly - Stone Believer

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:05:45am

re: #201 jaunte

Read that first paragraph. I cannot fathom Trump consoling anyone. Not without a smirk and a SUCK IT UP attitude.

I can’t see any of the GOP wannabe POTUS doing that, actually, since each one is heartless and cruel.

That thought makes me sicker than I have been.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:06:02am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:08:01am

re: #201 jaunte

Cue the death threats and bomb threats from the ammosexuals in 3….2….1….

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:08:30am

re: #204 Shiplord Kirel

It’s the number one story in the UK-based media.

Horrific.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:10:27am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:11:18am

re: #201 jaunte

“Bullets shot by assault weapons are designed to wobble upon entering the body to maximize damage. The bullet in this case obliterated the tibia and surrounding muscles before exit.”

For those whose workplace block twitter et al.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:14:43am

re: #207 jaunte

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Yep, predictably, the Britain First people have already started with the “oh, it wasn’t anything WE said…”
smh

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A Mom Anon  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:15:29am

Am I wrong in thinking that “Country First” really doesn’t make you a very good citizen or person at all? Shouldn’t your family,friendships and community come before? My thinking is that without those, the country really isn’t ,going to hold up well at all. What we’re seeing right now is a decay in communities all over the country. It’s been rare, until very recently, to even make new neighborhoods “walkable”, where there are sidewalks and gathering places close by so you can walk around and get to know your neighbors. In the past that was the norm and then it went out of fashion. Seeds of distrust and fear keep being sown by this “country first” stuff, it’s usually said out of a sense of “MY country first, what I think it is, MY definition, and that ONLY includes people just like me, everyone else isn’t part of the club”. Which makes you a shitty citizen and lousy ass neighbor.

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Lidane  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:18:42am

*facepalm*

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A Mom Anon  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:20:06am

re: #212 Lidane

OFFS, not this shit AGAIN. Howard, go back to judging talent shows and interviewing strippers, let the grown ups talk.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:21:02am

re: #177 makeitstop

I’m thinking of starting to call Trump ‘Duck’s Ass’ after reading this.

Donald Duck-ass.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:22:48am

re: #212 Lidane

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:23:13am

Trump Announces Contract With Chinese Firm To Outsource Presidential Thinking And Decision Making

fears allayed among gop legislators who worry that cheetoid entity would stray from core strengths of fear mongering and self congratulation

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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:25:21am

If only France, Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Yugoslavia, Greece, and Norway had guns, they could have stopped Hitler and prevented WWII.

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unproven innocence  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:25:52am

re: #212 Lidane

*facepalm*

Piling on. Trump calls Howard Stern Show

Donald Trump Calls In To The Howard Stern Show - August 25, 2015

“I like to do one thing at a time… I want to win, and then I’ll worry about it.”

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:27:02am

“Since the state went to court, 229 Syrian refugees have been resettled in Texas — 21 arrived in December and the rest arrived this year”

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:27:42am

re: #217 Dr. Matt

And the Soviets…. if only they had something to stop the Nazis.

Stern should stick to what he knows. T&A and crass nonsense. You know, the same things Trump does/knows.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:27:50am

re: #218 unproven innocence

Piling on. Trump calls Howard Stern Show

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“I like to do one thing at a time… I want to win, and then I’ll worry about it.”

“I don’t want to talk about South America right now. I’m running for President of the United States.” (Not exact quote, but close.) - Signed, another presidential candidate.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:28:03am
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jaunte  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:28:05am

Texas has received more than 6,600 refugees this year from a variety of countries.
texastribune.org

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:28:38am

re: #212 Lidane

*facepalm*

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Really…everyone on a plane should have a gun? That would go over like a lead balloon (and the plane would fall out of the sky just like one).

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:28:52am

re: #222 lawhawk

*sigh of relief*

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:29:28am

re: #216 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Trump Announces Contract With Chinese Firm To Outsource Presidential Thinking And Decision Making

fears allayed among gop legislators who worry that cheetoid entity would stray from core strengths of fear mongering and self congratulation

That has to be a pending Onion article.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:30:08am

re: #201 jaunte

“Bullets shot by assault weapons are designed to wobble upon entering the body to maximize damage. The bullet in this case obliterated the tibia and surrounding muscles before exit.”

Hurr hurr we need these bullets to kill people invading our homes!!!11

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:30:51am

re: #224 MsJ

Really…everyone on a plane should have a gun? That would go over like a lead balloon (and the plane would fall out of the sky just like one).

Blast-o from the past-o

Wingnut 9/11 fantasy
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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:32:07am

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

Did you see my private response to you downstairs?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:32:16am

re: #193 Franklin

What do you have to say to make Ted Cruz disappear?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:32:44am

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

Also, if guns were allowed on planes, the terrorists wouldn’t be using box cutters.

These people really don’t think these things out.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:32:49am

re: #230 Sir John Barron

What do you have to say to make Ted Cruz disappear?

Nothing. Canada refuses to take him back. :-)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:32:57am

re: #229 MsJ

Did you see my private response to you downstairs?

I missed it.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:33:10am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, if guns were allowed on planes, the terrorists wouldn’t be using box cutters.

These people really don’t think these things out.

Ever. About anything.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:33:47am

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

I want to fly on one of those planes with the 15 foot wide aisles.

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Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:34:27am

re: #222 lawhawk

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:34:40am

re: #230 Sir John Barron

What do you have to say to make Ted Cruz disappear?

Get Out the Vote
Get Out the Vote
Get Out the Vote

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:35:51am

re: #212 Lidane

*facepalm*

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Sexist pig says what?

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:36:47am

something something criminal negligence

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:37:32am

Milo Yiannopolous admits he hates himself:

While his campus talks have provoked a fair amount of attention among both students and popular media, Yiannopoulos is not a serious thinker who actually wants to engage in honest, rational debate about ideas. Nor is he a laudable champion of the First Amendment, as some people mistakenly believe. And, despite his assurances otherwise, his work reveals a chronic inability to play by the intellectual rules of basic epistemology. Even more, I’m not even convinced that he believes in some of what he says, such as when he told Dave Rubin that Trump is “one of the smartest people in the country, you know? He’s so clever.” (Given the fact that Trump literally talks at a fourth-grade level, this statement appears dubious.) After all, Yiannopoulos once admitted that his “natural disposition is a satirist and a comic. I like to entertain and to please people.” He then added, “I didn’t like me very much and so I created this comedy character. And now they’ve converged.” So, it’s not clear that Yiannopoulos even intends to be a serious thinker or social critic. He might be pulling off a less clever Andy Kauffman-like prank on both his dissenters and fans. Indeed, when The New York Times asked Yiannopoulos, “If you succeed at your goal and everyone is able to say whatever they want [although this is not what he wants, as established above], what happens next?” he answered, “I might have to become a social-justice warrior ‘cause I’ll be out of a job.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:38:52am

STUPIDEST ANTI-CHOICE MEME OF THE DAY==>
You might think an Omniscient Deity would implant himself into the uterus of a woman who would choose to carry the pregnancy to term.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:39:12am

re: #196 makeitstop

BTW, you are trending on twitter.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:40:23am
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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:41:19am

ah, I think this was discussed ad infinitum here.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:41:45am

re: #241 The Vicious Babushka

- Well, try one more time.

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:41:50am

re: #242 Stanley Sea

BTW, you are trending on twitter.

Que?

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:42:11am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

littlegreenfootballs.com

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:43:31am
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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:43:49am

re: #243 Stanley Sea

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:44:05am

re: #247 MsJ

littlegreenfootballs.com

Thanks, that was very inspirational.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:44:21am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

Thanks, that was very inspirational.

It was. I knew you’d like it.

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:44:35am

re: #246 makeitstop

Que?

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CleverToad  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:45:14am

Missed most of the righteous filibuster, but just called Michael Bennet’s office to add my name to the list of constituents who approved of his participation. Was really impressed by Sen. Murphy, and glad to see that much backup!

Now let’s see what comes of it…

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:45:26am

Watch the NRA/GOP congeal around this as a way to block this from passage.

Of course, it completely ignores the point.

Any one gun regulation or change by itself wont solve all gun crimes. It wont stop all mass shootings. It wont stop all suicides. It wont stop all drive-by shootings or all domestic violence shootings.

No single law could (short of repealing the 2A and confiscating all firearms, which will never happen).

So, each regulation can reduce the chances some future firearms incident occurs. Reduce the chances some gunman is able to buy a high capacity magazine enabling them to kill 15 people in a matter of seconds.

Reduce the chances that someone who is mentally ill is able to buy a guy that they use to commit suicide.

Reduce the chances that someone who is violent towards their domestic partner/family member has a firearm to use.

Reduce the chances that someone who is on a terror watch list or some iteration of a no-fly zone is able to obtain a gun.

Reduce the chances that someone is able to engage in straw purchases w/o a background check, and then carries out a homicide or commits suicide.

Each one by themselves is a tiny slice of all firearms incidents, but together, they can reduce firearms injuries and fatalities.

That’s what we need. The NRA/GOP refuses to do anything about any of it.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:45:39am

re: #246 makeitstop

Que?

#MakeItStop

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:46:36am

re: #252 Franklin

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LOL. I thought I said something interesting there for a sec.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:49:38am

shut the hell up ya old git:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:50:29am

Milo Yeahimadumbass

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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:51:34am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

McCAIN: Obama is ‘directly responsible’ for Orlando because he pulled troops from Iraq, bungled Syria
— Mike DeBonis (@mikedebonis) June 16, 2016

What part of, “Omar Mateen was born in Queens NY”, do wingnuts NOT understand?

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:52:00am

The responses to this are precious:

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:52:26am

re: #259 Dr. Matt

What part of, “Omar Mateen was born in Queens NY”, do wingnuts NOT understand?

All of it.

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jaunte  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:53:20am

re: #254 lawhawk

Any one gun regulation or change by itself wont solve all gun crimes. It wont stop all mass shootings. It wont stop all suicides. It wont stop all drive-by shootings or all domestic violence shootings.

Gun control is the only lawmaking effort that seems to require perfection of result from its opponents.

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:53:40am

re: #115 A Mom Anon

Well that’ll fix everything.

I propose legislation that you have to take a college level FUCKING CIVICS TEST before you can run for any office. And this shit of indirectly calling President Obama a traitor is just whipping more people into a hateful and violent frenzy. Blood is on his pasty white hands just as much as anyone else’s.

I’ve never been to college. I hold a public office (village trustee) as a Democrat in deeply red Nebraska. Wanna throw me out of office? (On the other hand, I understand civics and the Constitution.)

Nope, no education tests; goes back to the Jim Crow era where I went to segregated schools in K and 1st grades.

Expose the uneducated in political campaigns. Show a fool for who he is; that’s how it’s done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:53:50am

Another poll Donald won’t like:

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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:55:11am

Whoa:

Instagram

President Barack Obama arrives in Orlando, Florida with Sen. Marco Rubio to meet with families of Pulse shooting victims. (📸 by @lorenelliottphoto)

Instagram

President Obama walks alongside Gov. Rick Scott after arriving in Orlando, Florida to meet families of the Pulse shooting victims. (📸 by @lorenelliottphoto)

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Tigger2  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:56:15am

re: #260 lawhawk

The responses to this are precious:

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:56:19am

re: #260 lawhawk

The responses to this are precious:

Baghdad Bob?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:56:53am

re: #260 lawhawk

The responses to this are precious:

Everything is fine….

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withak  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:57:16am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

shut the hell up ya old git:

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Oh, come on.

Let’s set aside that the situation in that area of the globe was kickstarted by Reagan, with Bush II adding gasoline to the fire later on.

From reports I’ve read and heard, the shooter had literally zero connection to ISIS or any other terror group up until he decided to call the police and claim allegiance to them.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:57:41am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

shut the hell up ya old git:

Whut? WTFITS?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 11:58:00am

re: #260 lawhawk

What about Trump’s deposition today?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:00:19pm

re: #260 lawhawk

The responses to this are precious:

Reince: Hmmm, looks like someone is opening the side door, very windy. Feels great. I’m being invited to look outside….

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:00:46pm

re: #156 Dr. Matt

Watch This Guy Vape the World’s Hottest Chili Pepper

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Video

Start watching at about the 4m 11s mark.

Some dumbfuck responded “Another Liberal no doubt” in the comments. The guy in the video responded that he’s a Conservative to the core, and the dumbfuck learned nothing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:03:42pm

re: #265 Dr. Matt

Whoa:

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So, Rubio has an excuse to not be on the floor of the Senate today to vote on the opioid and gun bills.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:05:32pm

SMOTI’s busy retweeting prisonplanet tweets calling on MPs to resign because they’re standing in solidarity with Jo Cox, who was murdered because of her political beliefs.

His refrain: No political motive. Resign now.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:06:43pm

re: #260 lawhawk

The responses to this are precious:

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Or do take the party down with him. Whatever.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:07:07pm

Delete your account.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:08:22pm

re: #265 Dr. Matt

I would have had Marco go down the stairs first.

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retired cynic  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:08:30pm

re: #268 Sir John Barron

Everything is fine….

FINE!

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Franklin  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:09:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:10:37pm

This is a really creepy photo:

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retired cynic  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:11:37pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is a really creepy photo:

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GAH! POTUS has great strength of character not to just punch him in that mouth.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:12:51pm

re: #266 Tigger2

@Reince @realDonaldTrump You should really stop drinking on planes you make stupid tweets when you do.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) June 16, 2016

Reince is officially in denial and/or is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:13:29pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:14:59pm

Speaking of little Rubio:

Marco Rubio was dropping signs of a run well before Orlando

“I have only said like 10000 times I will be a private citizen in January.”

Precisely a month ago today, Sen. Marco Rubio wrote that on Twitter, one in a burst of sarcastic missives about speculation over his future.

On Wednesday, Rubio disclosed he’s reconsidering private citizenship. He may now run for a second term, citing the Orlando massacre and the urging of his friend, Carlos Lopez-Cantera.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:15:00pm

re: #283 Dr. Matt

Reince is officially in denial and/or is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

Reince Priebus right now.
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wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:16:52pm
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BeachDem  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:18:16pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is a really creepy photo:

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And Obama looks suitably disgusted at having to be that close to the odious Rick Scott.

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:19:12pm

re: #287 wrenchwench

They’ve attacked the President’s legitimacy for seven years. They’ve stopped up the work of Congress.

They’ve obstructed the Federal courts’ nominees and now the Supreme Court.

I’m not college educated (as was suggested above politicians should be to be elected) but my guess is:

Yes, they are trying to destroy the government from within.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:20:40pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rick Scott: dur durp derppity derp

Barack Obama: Bruh, seriously, just no.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:21:08pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:21:18pm

re: #283 Dr. Matt

Reince is officially in denial and/or is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

This is the best response to RNC PR BS.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:22:29pm

re: #291 lawhawk

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:22:57pm

re: #289 Anymouse

They’ve attacked the President’s legitimacy for seven years. They’ve stopped up the working of Congress.

They’ve obstructed the Federal courts’ nominees and now the Supreme Court.

I’m not college educated (as was suggested above politicians should be to be elected) but my guess is:

Yes, they are trying to destroy the government from within.

If you go look at the original, it just says you should have to take a college level civics test. It doesn’t say you have to finish college.

But, for me personally, I think the level of the job ought to require some level of education and experience that coincides with the job. For example, Justice of the Peace. I’ve seen 18 year olds get elected. I think you ought to prove you know what the job requires before you run for it.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:23:15pm

Satan & Garfunkel present:

Ghost - He Is (Lyric Video)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:23:35pm

Tim Scott and Lindsey Graham speaking about the anniversary of Charleston and congratulating themselves on how faith got South Carolina through it all, especially that there were no subsequent riots like in other places…

But not one word about guns or anything else…

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wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:24:18pm

re: #289 Anymouse

They’ve attacked the President’s legitimacy for seven years. They’ve stopped up the work of Congress.

They’ve obstructed the Federal courts’ nominees and now the Supreme Court.

I’m not college educated (as was suggested above politicians should be to be elected) but my guess is:

Yes, they are trying to destroy the government from within.

Mr. w, whose years of service in the Navy were very close to you father’s, IIRC, started college in his 60s. He got one class or two away from a BA and hasn’t been back. Many people learned much from him.

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:24:49pm

re: #294 Belafon

If you go look at the original, it just says you should have to take a college level civics test. It doesn’t say you have to finish college.

But, for me personally, I think the level of the job ought to require some level of education and experience that coincides with the job. For example, Justice of the Peace. I’ve seen 18 year olds get elected. I think you ought to prove you know what the job requires before you run for it.

Still opposed to tests for office, for the reason I gave above (Jim Crow laws).

I don’t care to see a bunch of conservatives writing and administering so-called “civic tests” like they did in the Sixties to deny African-Americans the right to vote or hold offices.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:25:48pm

Curt Schilling finds a new low and is tweeting gotnew links.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:27:19pm

re: #299 Dr. Matt

Curt Schilling finds a new low and is tweeting gotnew links.

Pretty soon he’ll be standing outside Twitter’s office building holding unintelligible signs, shouting profanities at passersby.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:27:44pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tim Scott and Lindsey Graham speaking about the anniversary of Charleston and congratulating themselves on how faith got South Carolina through it all, especially that there were no subsequent riots like in other places…

But not one word about guns or anything else…

OFFS

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:28:46pm

This mad Republican thinks she supports religious liberty, but it probably just means she supports discrimination against the people that wingnuts have been brainwashed to hate.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:28:58pm

Bet you the gun shop that now says they called authorities (no record of call yet)

lied their lying asses off.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:29:18pm

re: #285 Dr. Matt

Speaking of little Rubio:

Marco Rubio was dropping signs of a run well before Orlando

Weren’t there other GOP candidates already running?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:29:19pm
Would you like a nice espresso before being EXTERMINATED!

Dalek infiltrator spotted in Paris restaurant on Montmartre.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:30:55pm

re: #299 Dr. Matt

Curt Schilling finds a new low and is tweeting gotnew links.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:31:59pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:33:18pm

re: #305 Feline Fearless Leader

Dalek Relaxation Tape

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:33:37pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Gifts from God.”

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:35:26pm

All the GOPers vying for the top spot on the ticket when Trump flames out.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:37:41pm

re: #304 Sir John Barron

Weren’t there other GOP candidates already running?

According to wikipedia, among the declared Republican candidates are the Florida lieutenant governor and two members of Florida’s House of Representatives delegation. And a bunch of also rans… among them a sheriff, and we know what the wingnuts think of the importance of the sheriff. Polling has very high undecided results (the last one was at 49% undecided with Carlos Beruff leading at 17% - he’s one of the also rans, for what it’s worth).

On the Democratic side you’ve got Grayson, Murphy, and Pam Keith (former JAG Officer and daughter of a former ambassador).

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:39:20pm

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:39:27pm

re: #14 KGxvi

So, what are the odds that Donald Trump becomes the 21st century’s John Birch? It’s got to be somewhere around 5:2, right?

John Birch was a graduate of the University I attended some 20 years later, and it was generally accepted by the university Christianity Department, that Birch had been a very conservative evangelical.

As you may well know, Birch served as a missionary to China and was killed by communist forces. US missionaries acting as US government intelligence agents was common practice.

Since Birch never lived to see the formation of the John Birch Society, I’m sure Trump would rather skip that step incorporating the Don Trump Society.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:40:36pm

re: #312 Aunty Entity Dragon

Yep. The GOP owns this. And it’s gonna cost them.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:40:46pm

re: #313 BeenHereAwhile

fair points all, I often forget the story of the actual John Birch and tend to think of those who later acted in his name.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:40:49pm

re: #311 KGxvi

Ah, I see an August 30 primary election date. I bet the other GOPers are none too happy to have Rubio potentially back in the race.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:43:25pm

re: #311 KGxvi

Declined[edit]
Jeff Atwater, Chief Financial Officer of Florida[30]
Rick Baker, former Mayor of St. Petersburg[31][32]
Pam Bondi, Florida Attorney General[33]
Dan Bongino, radio host, former Secret Service agent, and nominee for the U.S. Senate from Maryland in 2012 and for MD-06 in 2014[23][34][35]

Good grief, Bongino thought of running in FL, too? As a Marylander, let me say that FL can have him, though.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:44:00pm

Cheeto Jesus. Pure win.

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electrotek  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:44:23pm

Today is D-Day in Dallas, still debating on attending with an Australian flag and dress up as a Cronulla rioter for the lulz

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:45:57pm

re: #298 Anymouse

Still opposed to tests for office, for the reason I gave above (Jim Crow laws).

I don’t care to see a bunch of conservatives writing and administering so-called “civic tests” like they did in the Sixties to deny African-Americans the right to vote or hold offices.

Full psychological workups, then.

No / at all.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:46:18pm

re: #316 Sir John Barron

Ah, I see an August 30 primary election date. I bet the other GOPers are none too happy to have Rubio potentially back in the race.

Rubio has until noon Eastern next Friday to file, so we’ll see if we have him to kick around come Monday the 27th

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:46:48pm

re: #318 Aunty Entity Dragon

Wilson’s still an ass who doesn’t like Trump because Trump is a “liberal”.

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BeachDem  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:47:41pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tim Scott and Lindsey Graham speaking about the anniversary of Charleston and congratulating themselves on how faith got South Carolina through it all, especially that there were no subsequent riots like in other places…

But not one word about guns or anything else…

And I would credit Charleston Mayor, Joe Riley, and the Mother Emanuel folks a whole lot more (as in totally) than Lindsey or Tim for anything positive that happened in the aftermath.

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:47:44pm

Conservative College-Level Civics Test Sample Questions:

1) The II Amendment was adopted for which purpose?

a. To overthrow a tyrannical government
b. To prevent home invasions with Sig Sauer or AR-15 rifles
c. To highlight the need for “well-maintained ” firearms
d. All of them Katie

2) Which amendment to the Constitution was considered by the Framers to be most important, trumping Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15?

a) First
b) Second
c) Third
d) Fourth

3) Write a three-hundred word essay on why the II Amendment is the bulwark against tyranny.

4) Is there a clause in the main body of the Constitution that says an African-American can be President?

a) Yes
b) No

5) Does the Constitution have direct language that permits abortion?

a) Yes
b) No

…

Nope, don’t want conservatives writing civics tests to run for office. I don’t want anyone doing it. I would rather expose fools running publicly (as Donald Trump is being exposed now).

If you can write a test and claim “necessity to hold office,” then the only things that matter is who writes them and who scores them.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:47:58pm

re: #322 Nyet

Wilson’s still an ass who doesn’t like Trump because Trump is a “liberal”.

Sure he is an ass. That was still funny as hell.

He is also right. Maybe a stopped clock thing, I know…but he is right.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:51:26pm

re: #270 Sir John Barron

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

shut the hell up ya old git:

Whut? WTFITS?

Desperation from a man that should have quit his position a long time ago. Respect for John McCain. I had some at one time. All gone now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:53:35pm

The backpedaling begins:

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:54:01pm

Super qualified for what? To gain office and then do what? We’re here from the govt and it’s a natural disaster so here’s a pair of bootstraps?

Seriously. What exactly qualified these folks to be president, when their ideology is to sit back and do nothing except let the corporate bigwigs profit at everyone else’s expense (which makes them virtually indistinguishable from the GOP).

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:55:19pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:55:44pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

The backpedaling begins:

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And without the fuckups under the last administration that had McCain’s enthusiastic support, fuckups he promised to continue if he became president himself, ISIL would not exist in the first place.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:55:58pm

re: #328 lawhawk

THE JOHNSON WAS SUPEREFFECTIVE!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:56:57pm

re: #330 Targetpractice

And without the fuckups under the last administration that had McCain’s enthusiastic support, fuckups he promised to continue if he became president himself, ISIL would not exist in the first place.

Hopefully the Arizona voters will retire McCain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:57:09pm

Saw a poll earlier today that showed Ann Kirkpatrick 47%/John McCain 41%.
He has problems…

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:57:14pm

6) Does the Constitution have direct language barring segregation of schools?

a) Yes
b) No

7) Does the II Amendment have language permitting minorities to buy firearms?

a) Yes
b) No

8) Does the I Amendment protect Muslims, atheists, liberals, the so-called LGBT or other undesirables from discrimination in the public sphere?

a) Yes
b) No

9) Is there language in the Constitution that says a judge cannot be removed from a trial because of his ethnic heritage?

a) Yes
b) NO

Nope. No civics tests. Done with this line of argument.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:58:08pm

Deb Fischer (R-NE) now speaking on the floor of the Senate stoking the terrorist flames regarding Orlando.

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 12:59:53pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

Deb Fischer (R-NE) now speaking on the floor of the Senate stoking the terrorist flames regarding Orlando.

My senator Deb Fischer is an opportunistic tool.

She wouldn’t know what LGBT meant if you smacked her upside the head with a rolled-up Rainbow Flag.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:00:01pm

re: #284 GlutenFreeJesus

Except Max Headroom had a brain and a heart.

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:00:30pm

re: #312 Aunty Entity Dragon

Well the stench overwhelmed at least one GOP hack.

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Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:00:56pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

Saw a poll earlier today that showed Ann Kirkpatrick 47%/John McCain 41%.
He has problems…

McCain’s scared shitless. For the first time in awhile, he’s actually having to fight for his seat from a position of weakness. Not only is his party’s nominee toxic, but he can’t even rely upon party faithfulness because said nominee took a massive shit on John’s biggest talking point of being a war hero to applause from the party base. Attacking a popular president in defense of that nominee isn’t going to do him a bit of good.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:01:16pm

re: #328 lawhawk

Heh

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:01:20pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

Deb Fischer (R-NE) now speaking on the floor of the Senate stoking the terrorist flames regarding Orlando.

The terror gator that killed her constituent proves that the problem isn’t guns.//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:01:21pm

The absolute hypocritical bullshit falling out of Fischer’s mouth right now…

*checks clock, decides it’s close enough, goes to kitchen to fix a drink…*

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:02:33pm

re: #289 Anymouse

In the words of Paul Krugman when explaining the modern Right’s mindset over a decade ago, “Government can’t do anything good because then people might not understand that government is bad, m’kay?”

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:03:39pm

I would like to see a Democrat get the floor and start another filibuster.

Every single time one of these wingnuts like my esteemed Senator Fischer goes off.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:04:28pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

Deb Fischer (R-NE) now speaking on the floor of the Senate stoking the terrorist flames regarding Orlando.

The Orlando shooter being one who pledged allegiance to AlQ, ISIL, Hezbollah, Friends of Hamas…..

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:05:06pm

re: #339 Targetpractice

McCain’s scared shitless. For the first time in awhile, he’s actually having to fight for his seat from a position of weakness. Not only is his party’s nominee toxic, but he can’t even rely upon party faithfulness because said nominee took a massive shit on John’s biggest talking point of being a war hero to applause from the party base. Attacking a popular president in defense of that nominee isn’t going to do him a bit of good.

I wonder how many voters in the Mountain and Pacific time zones vote later in the day or in the evening? There’s a very good chance that this election could be one of those one’s that gets called early, leading to Republicans in the Mountain and Pacific time zones not bothering to vote, while Democrats go to the polls to run up the score. That sort of thing hasn’t happened since Reagan, I’m guessing, but McCain has to be worried that if at 5 pm in Arizona the networks are reporting that Clinton has won Pennsylvania, Virginia, and North Carolina, that potential voters are going to go to dinner rather than the polls, right?

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:05:13pm

OK, any good horror flick released this year?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:05:27pm

re: #343 Romantic Heretic

In the words of Paul Krugman when explaining the modern Right’s mindset over a decade ago, “Government can’t do anything good because then people might not understand that government is bad, m’kay?”

The GOP only has one real policy objective, to redistribute wealth to billionaires. The government doing things costs money, money that could be sent to billionaires, so they don’t want government doing much of anything. The culture wars are necessary to get the rubes to vote for sending money to billionaires.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:07:08pm

re: #347 Nyet

OK, any good horror flick released this year?

The Fantastic Four reboot was pretty horrible …

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:07:24pm

re: #347 Nyet

OK, any good horror flick released this year?

I don’t go to them, but I heard The Conjuring 2 is good.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:07:48pm

re: #334 Anymouse

Where did all that nonsense come from? Did I miss a comment?

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plansbandc  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:08:03pm

Every time McCain says something shitastic, I am horrified that I nearly voted for him.

He was the last Republican I really considered voting for. I will never ever consider that again.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:08:36pm

re: #347 Nyet

Not this year but if you haven’t seen The Babadook yet, you should. I’m going to see The Conjuring 2 on Saturday. :D

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:09:03pm

re: #115 A Mom Anon

Well that’ll fix everything.

I propose legislation that you have to take a college level FUCKING CIVICS TEST before you can run for any office. And this shit of indirectly calling President Obama a traitor is just whipping more people into a hateful and violent frenzy. Blood is on his pasty white hands just as much as anyone else’s.

re: #351 MsJ

Where did all that nonsense come from? Did I miss a comment?

It started here. I responded why I don’t want conservatives writing civics tests to run for office.

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electrotek  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:09:16pm

McCain used to be commendable in 1999-2000. Remember those days?

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:09:30pm

The premise of They Look Like People shows promise.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:09:56pm

re: #355 electrotek

McCain used to be commendable in 1999-2000. Remember those days?

He could still maintain the illusion, yes.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:10:12pm

re: #328 lawhawk

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Super qualified for what? To gain office and then do what? We’re here from the govt and it’s a natural disaster so here’s a pair of bootstraps?

Seriously. What exactly qualified these folks to be president, when their ideology is to sit back and do nothing except let the corporate bigwigs profit at everyone else’s expense (which makes them virtually indistinguishable from the GOP).

I don’t know much about Johnson, but from what I have seen lately he appears to be a little goofy and light in the head. Weld comes off better.

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:10:32pm

re: #339 Targetpractice

McCain’s scared shitless. For the first time in awhile, he’s actually having to fight for his seat from a position of weakness. Not only is his party’s nominee toxic, but he can’t even rely upon party faithfulness because said nominee took a massive shit on John’s biggest talking point of being a war hero to applause from the party base. Attacking a popular president in defense of that nominee isn’t going to do him a bit of good.

Trump dumped on McCain. McCain then says Trump needs to apologise to the Vets. Not Johnny. Johnny big boy. Johnny can take it. Trump doesn’t apologize to anyone. Doubles down. Johnny endorses Trump. Johnny basically said, “Well…I tried. Vote Trump.” Johnny shown to be complete GOP hack and last shred of respect blows away like sand across a desert road….. Fuck Johnny. The end.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:10:51pm

re: #318 Aunty Entity Dragon

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Cheeto Jesus. Pure win.

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I storified it.
storify.com

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:10:54pm

re: #355 electrotek

McCain used to be commendable in 1999-2000. Remember those days?

I thought at the time that he was the best person running for the job. I didn’t have that same opinion by 2008.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:10:58pm

re: #357 Nyet

He could still maintain the illusion, yes.

Not after Palin. Nope. Never.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:11:23pm

re: #362 MsJ

Not after Palin. Nope. Never.

In 99-00.

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Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:11:24pm

As I watch the GOP go about their attempts to pin Orlando on the President or on Hillary, I find myself experiencing a bit of deja-vu. It’s like Benghazi all over again, this assurance by wingnuts that this will be the event that sinks Democrats, that Americans will be so disgusted by what happened that they’ll drop whatever reservations they have towards Republicans and willingly run into their arms. And that the way to facilitate this is to be as obnoxiously douchey as possible, going so far as to accuse the President of allowing the shooting to happen.

Just who the fuck do they think they’re fooling at this point? They’re not going to drive up the white vote by playing the same one-note song, but will drive down the minority vote further with their efforts to split it with Islamophobia.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:12:05pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

Saw a poll earlier today that showed Ann Kirkpatrick 47%/John McCain 41%.
He has problems…

He’s had problems for a long long time. One of the biggest was thawing out and unleashing Palin upon the world.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:13:40pm

re: #365 ObserverArt

He’s had problem for a long long time. One of the biggest was thawing out and unleashing Palin upon the world.

McCain, Kirk, Toomey.

Be still my heart!

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Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:14:12pm

re: #355 electrotek

McCain used to be commendable in 1999-2000. Remember those days?

That was largely due to sympathy after being ratfked into oblivion by Karl Rove. Sympathy he then totally shredded by being one of Bush’s biggest cheerleaders/defenders.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:14:34pm

re: #364 Targetpractice

As I watch the GOP go about their attempts to pin Orlando on the President or on Hillary, I find myself experiencing a bit of deja-vu. It’s like Benghazi all over again, this assurance by wingnuts that this will be the event that sinks Democrats, that Americans will be so disgusted by what happened that they’ll drop whatever reservations they have towards Republicans and willingly run into their arms. And that the way to facilitate this is to be as obnoxiously douchey as possible, going so far as to accuse the President of allowing the shooting to happen.

Just who the fuck do they think they’re fooling at this point? They’re not going to drive up the white vote by playing the same one-note song, but will drive down the minority vote further with their efforts to split it with Islamophobia.

Trump’s direct appeal to racism is failing badly. Not only is he viewed unfavorably by 88% of minorities in general, and 90% of Hispanics, even most whites have an unfavorable view of him.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:15:17pm

re: #346 KGxvi

I wonder how many voters in the Mountain and Pacific time zones vote later in the day or in the evening? There’s a very good chance that this election could be one of those one’s that gets called early, leading to Republicans in the Mountain and Pacific time zones not bothering to vote, while Democrats go to the polls to run up the score. That sort of thing hasn’t happened since Reagan, I’m guessing, but McCain has to be worried that if at 5 pm in Arizona the networks are reporting that Clinton has won Pennsylvania, Virginia, and North Carolina, that potential voters are going to go to dinner rather than the polls, right?

Don’t forget Ohio! We want to make sure we dump Trump earlier than our returns usually take. I’d love to see Ohio called early.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:15:55pm

re: #347 Nyet

OK, any good horror flick released this year?

Trump The Candidate.

Scary as all get-out!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:16:05pm

re: #364 Targetpractice

They’ll drive down the white vote too. Most white people aren’t racist assholes like their guy Trump.

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EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:16:33pm

The other day it occurred to me that ambiguity of the second amendment is most likely deliberate.

If the founders had wanted to establish a clear individual right to gun ownership, they could have drafted the second amendment accordingly, by dropping all reference to the militia.

Had the founders wanted to make it clear that the only right present was a right to be armed as needed for militia service, that could easily have been done as well.

Instead the US ended up with the ambiguous mess that we have. This was not incompetence. I think it was deliberate. In particular, the founders would not have accepted a clear individual right to gun ownership because it could be regarded as applying to slaves. Ambiguous militia blather was put in there as reassurance against that possible interpretation, since slaves would most certainly not be in the militia, and free blacks could be (and were) excluded as well.

This is all speculation, of course, but it is interesting to note that all variants of the second amendment that were considered during the drafting of the bill of rights have this 2-part structure: militia blather + a operative clause giving “the people” the right to keep and bear arms.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:16:37pm

Shelby just withdrew Feinstein’s amendment to the appropriations bill and McConnell entered other amendments. Reading of the amendments have been dispensed with so I have no idea what’s going on.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:16:39pm

re: #329 lawhawk

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The fucking bodies are not even in the ground.

I’m so disgusted.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:17:38pm

re: #367 Targetpractice

That was largely due to sympathy after being ratfked into oblivion by Karl Rove. Sympathy he then totally shredded by being one of Bush’s biggest cheerleaders/defenders.

Party over everything. Always. It is the GOP way.

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Kragar  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:19:10pm
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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:19:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:20:42pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shelby just withdrew Feinstein’s amendment to the appropriations bill and McConnell entered other amendments. Reading of the amendments have been dispensed with so I have no idea what’s going on.

Shelby entered a substitute amendment for Feinstein’s.
McConnell used procedural motions to dispense with debate on any of the new amendments.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:21:13pm

A mentally disturbed, conflicted, violent guy with access to all kinds of guns…who was a good guy until he wasn’t.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:21:26pm

re: #378 MsJ

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I’m very confident that Bernie will concede and endorse Hillary well before the convention. He will become a laughing stock otherwise.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:21:55pm

re: #381 Big Beautiful Door

I’m very confident that Bernie will concede and endorse Hillary well before the convention. He will become a laughing stock otherwise.

He is already a laughingstock.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:22:25pm

re: #381 Big Beautiful Door

There is this:

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:23:01pm

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

He is already a laughingstock.

The media still enjoy talking about the problems he causes Hillary. But if he doesn’t make a deal soon, even they will realize he has become irrelevant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:23:10pm

re: #381 Big Beautiful Door

I’m very confident that Bernie will concede and endorse Hillary well before the convention. He will become a laughing stock otherwise.

Bernie has already said that he will not concede, nor will he endorse Hillary, before the convention.

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Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:23:10pm

re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There is this:

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Perhaps the meeting the other night with the Clinton campaign was the negotiation of the terms of his surrender? Nah, that’s a bit too much to hope for.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:23:22pm

re: #381 Big Beautiful Door

He’s already reached laughingstock status. Even before his tweet about protecting everyone… While he never went to the senate to support the filibuster

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:23:29pm

re: #381 Big Beautiful Door

I’m very confident that Bernie will concede and endorse Hillary well before the convention. He will become a laughing stock otherwise.

Disagree with the first sentence. Agree with the second.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:23:50pm

re: #158 Romantic Heretic

In some ways I think they look Polynesian in dress and song styling.

Good stuff though.

The aboriginal languages of Taiwan are all Austronesian (Or Malayo-Polynesian, as they called them when I was alive). They’re the closest to the protolanguage, so Taiwan and the South China coast were probably the Malayo-Polynesian homeland.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:23:59pm

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bernie has already said that he will not concede, nor will he endorse Hillary, before the convention.

That is what they always say before they concede and endorse their opponent.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:24:09pm

re: #386 Targetpractice

Perhaps the meeting the other night with the Clinton campaign was the negotiation of the terms of his surrender? Nah, that’s a bit too much to hope for.

I can dream, but I’m guessing what B_S said will hold.

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:24:27pm

re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am hoping he will come out and say the primary season is over, we fought the good fight, but now is the time to unite under Mrs. Clinton to defeat the fascist threat posed by Mr. Trump.

I will not watch the video, but I am sure it will be distilled into bite-sized morsels I can wash down with rum.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:24:31pm

re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)

His track record is not very good at this point, so even if he concedes, I don’t expect it to be as gracious and effective as Hillary’s 2008 concession. It will be laden with “but’s” and “if’s” and weasel words.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:24:50pm

re: #381 Big Beautiful Door

I’m very confident that Bernie will concede and endorse Hillary well before the convention. He will become a laughing stock otherwise.

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

He is already a laughingstock.

I have fears he will give up the fight, but not endorse Hillary. He seems to be suffering from Maximum Butthurt levels. I hope I am wrong, but Bernie sends bad signals.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:24:55pm

re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There is this:

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I am going to withhold my judgement. I am 50/50 this is a concession. Maybe 70/30 against. But I am a jaded person sometimes.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:24:58pm

re: #347 Nyet

OK, any good horror flick released this year?

I heard from a young person that Conjuring 2 was scary as shit.

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Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:26:02pm

re: #393 Nyet

His track record is not very good at this point, so even if he concedes, I don’t expect it to be as gracious and effective as Hillary’s 2008 concession. It will be laden with “but’s” and “if’s” and weasel words.

Very much so. By this point, an enthusiastic endorsement of her would be totally insincere or at the very least interpreted as such. No, he’s going to find some way to make this race all about him and his loss to her not a repudiation of him, but rather an illegitimate result that allows him to go off being the real “winner.”

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:26:03pm

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bernie has already said that he will not concede, nor will he endorse Hillary, before the convention.

OTOH, he was told that he could not speak at the convention if he doesn’t concede. And since Bernie is all about Bernie (“But it’s all for Youuuuuuuu”), this may indeed be his concession.

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SirMixALot  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:26:34pm

re: #109 A Mom Anon

Yeah, um, oceans don’t protect you from exported/imported hate. Note our hate damaged evangelicals shipping their anti-gay hate to Uganda and other parts of Africa. If we’re gonna claim we’re an example to the world then we get to own the shitty stuff too.

No the Brits own their own BS. This is not imported hate. Fascists groups are homegrown in the UK. Have been for decades.

Right now the UK is in the middle of its own xenophobic/racist campaign to exit out of Europe. The vote is next week.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:26:46pm

re: #394 ObserverArt

I have fears he will give up the fight, but not endorse Hillary. He seems to be suffering from Maximum Butthurt levels. I hope I am wrong, but Bernie sends bad signals.

Its in his own best interest to endorse, so he will. Bernie knows how to play politics; he’s been in the game a long time.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:26:47pm

re: #396 Stanley Sea

I have “meh” vibes from the first film (I don’t really remember what it was about), but at least no negatives. So I might as well watch the 2nd part.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:28:04pm

And if we’re shown to be incorrect about Bernie, so much the better. I won’t be holding my breath though.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:28:10pm

re: #399 SirMixALot

No the Brits own their own BS. This is not imported hate. Fascists groups are homegrown in the UK. Have been for decades.

Right now the UK is in the middle of its own xenophobic/racist campaign to exit out of Europe. The vote is next week.

And polls show Brexit leading, though its too close to call.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:28:23pm

re: #396 Stanley Sea

I heard from a young person that Conjuring 2 was scary as shit.

The trailer looked good…..but when I was watching it, I caught on pretty quickly that the story’s based on the Enfield Poltergeist.

Click to Reveal

I don’t think it’s ever been proven, but I’m pretty sure the incident is a hoax.

I still might go and see it, even knowing what’s in the spoiler tag.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:28:45pm

re: #403 Big Beautiful Door

And polls show Brexit leading, though its too close to call.

It will be interesting to see what effect (if any) today’s news has on it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:29:21pm

I’ve dealt with far too many stubborn white mediocre oldfuckers in my life to be all that sanguine concerning Bernie Sanders capacity for grace.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:29:31pm

“John McCain” is trending on Twitter. This is not going well for him.

I am sure there are positive tweets in there, but nowhere near as many as those slamming the shit out of him.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:29:38pm

re: #395 MsJ

I am going to withhold my judgement. I am 50/50 this is a concession. Maybe 70/30 against. But I am a jaded person sometimes.

You don’t have to be jaded. He has not handle himself very well the last few months. So, it is perfectly normal to be concerned. Just look at how he turned off many on this site. And then there are the tweets of people calling him out. He really has made this much more difficult than need be in my opinion.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:30:20pm

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Robert Plant and Jimmy Page were doing what stoners do: ripping bong hits and watching reruns of Gillgan’s Island, which is where they ripped off the song!!!

Nah, the theme from Gilligan’s Island and Puff the Magic Dragon are the same—I can’t quite determine which came first….

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:30:23pm

re: #403 Big Beautiful Door

And polls show Brexit leading, though its too close to call.

Does anyone else find it ironic that the UK is going through Brexit but they were dead set against Scottish independence?

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Jay C  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:31:24pm

re: #346 KGxvi

I wonder how many voters in the Mountain and Pacific time zones vote later in the day or in the evening? There’s a very good chance that this election could be one of those one’s that gets called early, leading to Republicans in the Mountain and Pacific time zones not bothering to vote, while Democrats go to the polls to run up the score. That sort of thing hasn’t happened since Reagan, I’m guessing, but McCain has to be worried that if at 5 pm in Arizona the networks are reporting that Clinton has won Pennsylvania, Virginia, and North Carolina, that potential voters are going to go to dinner rather than the polls, right?

I have a feeling that the 2016 election is going to be “called” approximately one minute after the polls close in the Eastern Time zone.

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Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:31:25pm

re: #400 Big Beautiful Door

Its in his own best interest to endorse, so he will. Bernie knows how to play politics; he’s been in the game a long time.

As I’ve seen a Vermont native note, Bernie has a history of trying to bully others into doing what he wants, getting repudiated, and then quietly sitting down and falling in line. He’ll concede and endorse, if only to keep his seat, but the degree of both will still largely rely upon his own ego. And since his ego has ballooned under the constant drumbeat of how much “better” a candidate he is than Clinton, he won’t do concede or endorse gracefully. He’ll go out just the way he’s acted for weeks now: As a spoiled child who doesn’t feel he did anything wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:31:26pm
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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:31:51pm

re: #408 ObserverArt

You don’t have to be jaded. He has not handle himself very well the last few months. So, it is perfectly normal to be concerned. Just look at how he turned off many on this site. And then there are the tweets of people calling him out. He really has made this much more difficult than need be in my opinion.

What pains me (and others) the most is that so many (myself included) loved him. Until we got to know him.

That’s why I keep using #AllTalk or #AllTalkNoAction when tweeting about him.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:32:07pm

If UK exits, Scotland leaving it might turn out to have been a better decision. Bummer.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:32:44pm

re: #373 EPR-radar

The other day it occurred to me that ambiguity of the second amendment is most likely deliberate.

If the founders had wanted to establish a clear individual right to gun ownership, they could have drafted the second amendment accordingly, by dropping all reference to the militia.

Had the founders wanted to make it clear that the only right present was a right to be armed as needed for militia service, that could easily have been done as well.

Instead the US ended up with the ambiguous mess that we have. This was not incompetence. I think it was deliberate. In particular, the founders would not have accepted a clear individual right to gun ownership because it could be regarded as applying to slaves. Ambiguous militia blather was put in there as reassurance against that possible interpretation, since slaves would most certainly not be in the militia, and free blacks could be (and were) excluded as well.

This is all speculation, of course, but it is interesting to note that all variants of the second amendment that were considered during the drafting of the bill of rights have this 2-part structure: militia blather + a operative clause giving “the people” the right to keep and bear arms.

The Second Amendment, like the Constitution and the rest of the Bill of Rights was the result of debate and compromise. There were actually several versions proposed. Madison’s original version in the House read:

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person

After committee review a new House version read:

A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms

But after more debate the version sent to the Senate read:

A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.

The Senate struck the conscientious objector language and went with:

A well regulated militia, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

There were two more changes that got us to the version that was ratified. There were also issues of there being no standing army at the time of ratification and that fact that most of the framers had just fought a war of independence. Not to mention very different technologies available at the time.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:32:50pm

re: #156 Dr. Matt

So the Carolina Reaper has the World record for being the hottest pepper. Does this guy have the record for being the stupidest person? If not, he’s got my vote.

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mmmirele  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:34:02pm

re: #332 Big Beautiful Door

Hopefully the Arizona voters will retire McCain.

I called his Phoenix office (bummer on the phone number) to let someone know how wrong McCain was, and the voicemail is stuffed completely full. I expect the staff just came back from lunch and is now trying to wade through all the angry messages.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:34:25pm

re: #389 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The aboriginal languages of Taiwan are all Austronesian (Or Malayo-Polynesian, as they called them when I was alive).

So… what’s it like on the other side? How’s the internet speed?

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:34:43pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Too little, too late, Walnuts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:35:21pm
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Jay C  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:35:39pm

re: #415 Nyet

If UK exits, Scotland leaving it might turn out to have been a better decision. Bummer.

Reading a bunch of British opinion sites, it seems to be the CW that if “Britain” leaves the EU, it’s going to prod the Scots to push for independence even sooner/harder - so that they can apply to re-join the EU as a sovereign nation.

The Scots have long experience with being “junior partners” - the thrill wore off a few centuries ago…

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:35:56pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:36:15pm

re: #419 Jebediah, RBG

So… what’s it like on the other side? How’s the internet speed?

Depends on how good you were in life.

I hear in hell it’s dial-up speeds.

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Kragar  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:37:17pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:37:34pm

re: #407 MsJ

“John McCain” is trending on Twitter. This is not going well for him.

I am sure there are positive tweets in there, but nowhere near as many as those slamming the shit out of him.

Barack Obama is directly responsible for John McCain trending on Twitter.

/

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:39:14pm

re: #424 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And when your phone service gets cut off, you can only re-instate it by logging in to their website.

I guess I should start behaving.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:39:29pm

Apparently, Corey did not get the latest memo:

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:41:12pm

A manchild posts this:

Retweets this:

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:41:23pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What evs.

Guns War Guns War Guns War

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makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:41:43pm

Damn, McCain’s catching a whupping on his TL.

Not that he doesn’t deserve it.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:42:04pm

Huh?

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:42:38pm

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently, Corey did not get the latest memo:

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Yes, I know Corey is one of those idiots.

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Tigger2  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:43:42pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:44:00pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

So by McCain’s own revised logic, Republicans (including John McCain) are responsible for Orlando because of their policy positions regarding easy access to guns.

That works for me.

We may have reached the point where Republicans are inherently hypocrites on all issues other than tax cuts for the rich.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:44:15pm

re: #429 Nyet

A manchild posts this:

Retweets this:

The ALL CAPS are pretty impressive. I’m convinced.

//

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:44:38pm

re: #429 Nyet

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:45:50pm

re: #436 Sir John Barron

The ALL CAPS are pretty impressive. I’m convinced.

//

The all caps is how you know they’re super serial.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:45:56pm

re: #429 Nyet

@HillaryClinton @SenWarren 👈please pick this bitch as your running mate..#AmericaFirst pic.twitter.com
— RubberBlon

I wonder what Hillary could have done to win over this troubled heart.

//

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:46:11pm

Does anyone think McCain has any feel for how many people despise him for introducing Palin to the national scene?

I don’t. I think he is too arrogant to ever admit it.

It’s like he stepped into quicksand composed of animal dung, got out without cleaning it all off and then he walks around and everyone but him thinks he stinks. And being a hothead just makes it all worse. The heat brings out the smell again and again.

Like today. It was another one of those “here he comes again, phew” days.

Go away John. Damn you stink to high heaven.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:47:25pm

re: #437 No Country For Old Haters

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:47:26pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:50:38pm

re: #416 KGxvi

I was a bit flip when I summarized this history as “militia blather + a operative clause”, but it is true that the militia language in all variants is ambiguous as to whether or not it limits the scope of the right.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:51:21pm

re: #439 Sir John Barron

Is she even a teenager yet?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:51:28pm

re: #432 MsJ

Huh?

That where he bought the gun? I’d be horrified to be a gun store owner knowing I’d sold the gun that resulted in that massacre. But I guess some people are OK with it.

Besides Obama is really to blame. //

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:51:48pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:52:05pm

re: #444 GlutenFreeJesus

Is she even a teenager yet?

Oh, I don’t know. Just reading it here. Haven’t looked at profile.

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:52:07pm

re: #439 Sir John Barron

I wonder what Hillary could have done to win over this troubled heart.

//

I’ll bet she claims she is a loving Christian as well. /s

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:52:25pm

re: #433 No Country For Old Haters

Johnny is a fucking old fool. Go home. Go lay down. Go away. Just fade away…..

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:52:46pm

re: #445 Sir John Barron

That where he bought the gun? I’d be horrified to be a gun store owner knowing I’d sold the gun that resulted in that massacre. But I guess some people are OK with it.

Besides Obama is really to blame. //

But he says he saw him AFTER the shooting…where he was dead.

Conspiracy theorist?

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:53:36pm

re: #445 Sir John Barron

That where he bought the gun? I’d be horrified to be a gun store owner knowing I’d sold the gun that resulted in that massacre. But I guess some people are OK with it.

Besides Obama is really to blame. //

HEY. IT’S LEGAL. IF NOT HERE, WELL I’M OUT SOME MONEY. BUSINESS. JUST BUSINESS. ////////////TRIP AND FALL, GET BACK UP,//////////////

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:53:37pm

re: #447 Sir John Barron

As young as she looks, I’d have to card her for bubblegum.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:54:22pm

re: #450 MsJ

But he says he saw him AFTER the shooting…where he was dead.

Conspiracy theorist?

I think the store owner is saying he recognized the shooter after the killings. That is, once the shooter was ID’d the store owner recognized his picture as the person who had come into his store.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:54:26pm

Wow, CSPAN showing a bit of a Senate hearing earlier today about Organized Transnational Crime, and Bob Corker (R-TN) described Obama’s plan to address this five years ago as “ambitious and inspirational”.
The hearing is to get an update on how the plan is working and what more can be done.

Excuse me while I pick up my jaw from the floor.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:54:49pm

re: #453 Sir John Barron

I think the store owner is saying he recognized the shooter after the killings. That is, once the shooter was ID’d the store owner recognized his picture as the person who had come into his store.

Ah! I read it wrong then. Thanks.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:54:52pm

re: #450 MsJ

I’m thinking the wording is just bad… I take it as he recognized him as a customer in the past, after he was identified.

But yeah. The conspironuts will latch onto this.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:55:18pm

re: #347 Nyet

“The Witch” was pretty good, though you can’t go into it expecting a standard hack and slash horror movie. It’s subtitled “A New England Folktale” and that’s what it plays out like. Kind of slow burner but really well done.

“It Follows” was also very good but I think that came out last year. “What We Do In The Shadows” was an excellent little horror-comedy that hit last year as well. I really liked that one, lots of laughs.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:55:42pm

re: #454 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, CSPAN showing a bit of a Senate hearing earlier today about Organized Transnational Crime, and Bob Corker (R-TN) described Obama’s plan to address this five years ago as “ambitious and inspirational”.
The hearing to get an update on how the plan is working and what more can be done.

Excuse me while I pick up my jaw from the floor.

Ah, well, there goes Corker’s VP chances….

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:55:45pm

re: #457 Whack-A-Mole

How’s your little guy? Any pics yet?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:56:19pm

re: #457 Whack-A-Mole

If I could only understand what they were saying 95% of the time. They were talking so fast and mumbling so much.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:58:03pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:59:14pm

re: #461 MsJ

Will be interesting to see what he said to her. This could either implicate or exonerate her.

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:59:27pm

Off the topic:

Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI) has had enough of the growing movement to drug test poor people who need government assistance. So on Tuesday, she’s introducing a bill that she says will make things fairer.

Her “Top 1% Accountability Act” would require anyone claiming itemized tax deductions of over $150,000 in a given year to submit a clean drug test. If a filer doesn’t submit a clean test within three months of filing, he won’t be able to take advantage of tax deductions like the mortgage interest deduction or health insurance tax breaks. Instead he would have to make use of the standard deduction.

More at:
thinkprogress.org

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 1:59:49pm

re: #462 GlutenFreeJesus

Will be interesting to see what he said to her. This could either implicate or exonerate her.

Sounds like they are going to charge her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:00:15pm

“Elected leaders have a moral duty to work together to root out terrorism and keep Americans safe. But today, we saw John McCain cross a dangerous line in comments that undermine our Commander in Chief on national security issues — at the very moment the president was in Orlando to comfort victims’ families. It’s difficult to imagine the old John McCain being this reckless with something so serious. John McCain has changed after 33 years in Washington.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:00:38pm

re: #463 Anymouse

Let’s drug test all members of Congress too. Some of them appear to be on crack.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:00:41pm

re: #463 Anymouse

Off the topic:

More at:
thinkprogress.org

I always liked her.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:02:30pm

re: #464 MsJ

Been getting that vibe since yesterday. IMO, she had to know something… she went with him to get ammo. That alone doesn’t implicate her on anything, but given what we know so far about this guy, she had to know something was up.

I can see her playing the “I was afraid of him” defense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:02:36pm

re: #466 GlutenFreeJesus

Let’s drug test all members of Congress too. Some of them appear to be on crack.

Some of them are…well, we know of at least one (Trey Radel) who was charged and convicted.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:03:34pm

re: #463 Anymouse

Off the topic:

More at:
thinkprogress.org

Very divisive. Class warfare. Democrats divide America. Conservatives unite America. Oh, here is are bill to drug test the welfares, cut food stamps, spy on all Muslims.

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Nojay UK  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:04:06pm

re: #422 Jay C

Reading a bunch of British opinion sites, it seems to be the CW that if “Britain” leaves the EU, it’s going to prod the Scots to push for independence even sooner/harder - so that they can apply to re-join the EU as a sovereign nation.

I voted against Scottish independence a couple of years ago. If Britain votes to leave the EU and there is another independence vote for Scotland then I will vote for independence as I believe strongly in the idea of the EU. I would expect an independent Scottish government to immediately apply for membership in the EU and for that to be granted on an accelerated timescale.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:04:16pm

Well, goodnight, Lizards. And yes, I did see The Witch, and it was quite good. I enjoyed it.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:04:29pm

re: #389 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The aboriginal languages of Taiwan are all Austronesian (Or Malayo-Polynesian, as they called them when I was alive). They’re the closest to the protolanguage, so Taiwan and the South China coast were probably the Malayo-Polynesian homeland.

Thank you. I did not know that.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:06:31pm

re: #468 GlutenFreeJesus

Been getting that vibe since yesterday. IMO, she had to know something… she went with him to get ammo. That alone doesn’t implicate her on anything, but given what we know so far about this guy, she had to know something was up.

I can see her playing the “I was afraid of him” defense.

That’s her exact defense.

She went further and said she knew of his plans the day before (stick a fork in her, she’s done just for that statement) but didn’t think he’d go through with it.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:07:13pm

re: #472 Dr Lizardo

Well, goodnight, Lizards. And yes, I did see The Witch, and it was quite good. I enjoyed it.

Looks damn freaky. I’m holding off.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:09:33pm

re: #459 MsJ

He’s actually back with the ex-wife now (which does not make me happy in any way, shape, or form). But my son wanted the pup over there again since he was spending more time at his mom’s house than mine (and it was introduced into the family as ‘his’ so….).

So now I just have Enderman, my exceedingly large feline overlord:

He’s just huge, probably 16 or 17 lbs. I’ve had him on a diet for the last month or so which he hates. He wakes me up around 3AM every morning (about 3 hours early) because he thinks it’s time for me to feed him. When I won’t he acts like a little snot doing stuff like pushing the box fan out of the window, or trying to knock everything off the stand next to the bed.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:10:36pm

re: #476 Whack-A-Mole

Oh, just a growing boy…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:10:56pm

re: #476 Whack-A-Mole

There is a reason the cats are not allowed in the sleeping wing of the house at night.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:12:19pm

re: #476 Whack-A-Mole

Aw! I am so sorry!

Are you giving your kitteh green beans? When one of my kids has to go on a diet they get half a can of green beans with their food. Keeps them full and not crabby.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:13:30pm

re: #476 Whack-A-Mole

There should be a lot of a good Feline Overlord :P

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:14:03pm

re: #478 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There is a reason the cats are not allowed in the sleeping wing of the house at night.

If I tried that, he’d sit and whine all night. I’ve done it once or twice on nights when he was being particularly nettlesome and he whined the whole time making it just as hard to sleep.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:14:54pm

re: #411 Jay C

I have a feeling that the 2016 election is going to be “called” approximately one minute after the polls close in the Eastern Time zone.

Well, Washington and Oregon at least are all mail-in, so that won’t effect our 73/27 shellacking of tRump….

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:15:13pm

re: #481 Whack-A-Mole

If I tried that, he’d sit and whine all night. I’ve done it once or twice on nights when he was being particularly nettlesome and he whined the whole time making it just as hard to sleep.

That’s why they actually get shut out at a door about 15 feet from the door to our bedroom. In general, we can sleep through any whining at that distance. (There doesn’t tend to be a lot anymore, unless mr. klys forgot to refill the timed feeders. We’ve been doing this for years because otherwise Problem Child likes to eat our hair as we sleep.)

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:16:20pm

re: #483 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Problem Child likes to eat our hair as we sleep.)

I get the name now :D

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:16:22pm

re: #479 MsJ

Never heard of that. I think I’ll try it. He’s very picky about his food though. Turns his nose up at the quality stuff I bought when I first got him and really prefers Friskies (i.e. crap food). Won’t touch canned food the times I tried that either.

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retired cynic  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:17:50pm

re: #483 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s why they actually get shut out at a door about 15 feet from the door to our bedroom. In general, we can sleep through any whining at that distance. …

That plus a white-noise machine gets me through the whinging.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:18:11pm

re: #411 Jay C

I have a feeling that the 2016 election is going to be “called” approximately one minute after the polls close in the Eastern Time zone.

I still think they are going to replace Trump at the convention to make it a tighter race.

Trump doesn’t really want it, he’s not working for it, his negatives are so bad he is going to screw every GOPer running and I do not see the GOP allowing it. I just don’t.

The convention is going to be a shit show of epic proportions.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:19:04pm

re: #484 Nyet

I get the name now :D

He is …special. We both love him and feel a certain amount of responsibility because he’s one of those cats who a lot of people would probably not be able to deal with. He’s very confused and we suspect he was probably mistreated some when he was a kitten. (He was 2 when we adopted him.)

He can be a very sweet cat too, so it’s not all bad. But he is definitely our Problem Child.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:19:43pm

re: #487 MsJ

I still think they are going to replace Trump at the convention to make it a tighter race.

Trump doesn’t really want it, he’s not working for it, his negatives are so bad he is going to screw every GOPer running and I do not see the GOP allowing it. I just don’t.

The convention is going to be a shit show of epic proportions.

Except he won’t like being told he can’t have it. Just because he doesn’t want it doesn’t mean he won’t throw a fit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:20:24pm

re: #489 Belafon

Except he won’t like being told he can’t have it. Just because he doesn’t want it doesn’t mean he won’t throw a fit.

For a moment I thought we were still talking about the cats.

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Targetpractice  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:21:06pm

re: #487 MsJ

I still think they are going to replace Trump at the convention to make it a tighter race.

Trump doesn’t really want it, he’s not working for it, his negatives are so bad he is going to screw every GOPer running and I do not see the GOP allowing it. I just don’t.

The convention is going to be a shit show of epic proportions.

I think they’ll stick with him, much like they had to stick with Romney even as it became increasingly obvious that he was the walking embodiment of every accusation made about them being a party of, by, and for the rich. All the efforts to play up the dead cat bounce he got after the convention as putting him in contention, then the mutual masturbatory session when they declared he’d “won” the first debate with his Gish Gallop.

Trump is just pushing up that timeline, leaving them with four months of trying to insist that his shit don’t stick.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:21:42pm

re: #486 retired cynic

That plus a white-noise machine gets me through the whinging.

I play low classical music on my phone at night.

Tuxedo Cat gets locked out when she is being particularly nettlesome. Whether or not Chat Noir gets locked out depends on where he is when I shut the door since he just climbs onto the bed or into a laundry basket and snoozes until morning.

(Got a bunch of Chat Noir pictures the other day since we went into a museum in Montmartre which used to be a house some of the artists lived and painted in. They had plaques showing some of the locations of certain paintings such as a swing that is in a Renoir. There is also a vineyard up there as well still. They auction off the grapes every harvest for charity.)

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Anymouse  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:22:00pm

re: #487 MsJ

I still think they are going to replace Trump at the convention to make it a tighter race.

Trump doesn’t really want it, he’s not working for it, his negatives are so bad he is going to screw every GOPer running and I do not see the GOP allowing it. I just don’t.

The convention is going to be a shit show of epic proportions.

And if they do replace him the Trumpenhorde will revolt against the GOP.

Nope, their corner is painted, and the floor is wet. They’re stuck. That’s why almost no politician on the right is coming out against Trump. (I still have to credit my non-wingnut senator Ben Sasse for coming out against Trump in February and sticking to his guns. He even joined the Democratic filibuster yesterday.)

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:22:14pm

re: #485 Whack-A-Mole

Never heard of that. I think I’ll try it. He’s very picky about his food though. Turns his nose up at the quality stuff I bought when I first got him and really prefers Friskies (i.e. crap food). Won’t touch canned food the times I tried that either.

Canned carrots are good too. Some of mine like peas, others not. Berries (blue, straw, rasp) are ok, as well (for dogs, check for cats). Anything to help fill them up. No onions, garlic. Google people food for cats.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:24:09pm

re: #491 Targetpractice

I think they’ll stick with him, much like they had to stick with Romney even as it became increasingly obvious that he was the walking embodiment of every accusation made about them being a party of, by, and for the rich. All the efforts to play up the dead cat bounce he got after the convention as putting him in contention, then the mutual masturbatory session when they declared he’d “won” the first debate with his Gish Gallop.

Trump is just pushing up that timeline, leaving them with four months of trying to insist that his shit don’t stick.

Romney wasn’t crazy. Nor was Ryan. (assholes, yes, but not crazy) I think there is a big difference between trump and anyone else. Trump is dangerous. Sure, Palin was, too, but McCain was there and they figured they could control her. They know they cannot control trump.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:24:38pm

re: #487 MsJ

I still think they are going to replace Trump at the convention to make it a tighter race.

Trump doesn’t really want it, he’s not working for it, his negatives are so bad he is going to screw every GOPer running and I do not see the GOP allowing it. I just don’t.

The convention is going to be a shit show of epic proportions.

And if they do, they will have even more problems. First will be getting through the conflicts in the convention hall and the demonstrations that will occur outside.

Then their voters that wanted Trump will revolt this year and maybe the next couple of elections.

It will lead to a possible breakup of the party or a complete revamping of who is in the party. A lot of older ‘established’ Republicans will be gone.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:24:39pm

re: #494 MsJ

Canned carrots are good too. Some of mine like peas, others not. Berries (blue, straw, rasp) are ok, as well (for dogs, check for cats). Anything to help fill them up. No onions, garlic. Google people food for cats.

Rather, Google people food BAD for cats.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:25:10pm

re: #496 ObserverArt

And if they do, they will have even more problems. First will be getting through the conflicts in the convention hall and the demonstrations that will occur outside.

Then their voters that wanted Trump will revolt this year and maybe the next couple of elections.

It will lead to a possible breakup of the party or a complete revamping of who is in the party. A lot of older ‘established’ Republicans will be gone.

I may be completely wrong but that is my prediction and I am sticking to it.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:25:27pm

I don’t think the GOP would dare try to replace Trump at the convention. The establishment may masturbate to fantasies about doing it, but they know they’d be alienating and driving a significant percentage of their base away permanently (or at least for many years).

For the most part, they’ll eat the shit sandwich this cycle trying to keep a smile on their face while publicly calling it a delicious roast beef treat.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:26:17pm

re: #495 MsJ

Romney wasn’t crazy. Nor was Ryan. (assholes, yes, but not crazy) I think there is a big difference between trump and anyone else. Trump is dangerous. Sure, Palin was, too, but McCain was there and they figured they could control her. They know they cannot control trump.

I think they believe they’ll be able to control him. They think in terms of money and influence; Trump thinks in terms of ratings.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:26:24pm

re: #490 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For a moment I thought we were still talking about the cats.

Trump, the overgrown orange tabby that is also a problem child.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:27:17pm

re: #497 MsJ

I’ll try that. Because the diet I’ve got him on now (small portions morning and night, nothing in between) just isn’t pleasant for either of us.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:30:36pm

re: #485 Whack-A-Mole

Never heard of that. I think I’ll try it. He’s very picky about his food though. Turns his nose up at the quality stuff I bought when I first got him and really prefers Friskies (i.e. crap food). Won’t touch canned food the times I tried that either.

We’ve got the only two cats in the world who don’t like tuna or tuna-flavored cat food—but when we pour tuna juice out of the can on the dog’s food (which she loves), they’ll lick it off.

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unproven innocence  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:34:05pm

re: #462 GlutenFreeJesus

Will be interesting to see what he said to her. This could either implicate or exonerate her.

Even if the message looks damning, she would be unable to face her accuser in court, unfortunately.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:34:10pm

re: #502 Whack-A-Mole

I’ll try that. Because the diet I’ve got him on now (small portions morning and night, nothing in between) just isn’t pleasant for either of us.

Diets rarely are.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:35:50pm

re: #499 Whack-A-Mole

I don’t think the GOP would dare try to replace Trump at the convention. The establishment may masturbate to fantasies about doing it, but they know they’d be alienating and driving a significant percentage of their base away permanently (or at least for many years).

For the most part, they’ll eat the shit sandwich this cycle trying to keep a smile on their face while publicly calling it a delicious roast beef treat.

This is one of those critical short term/long term decisions the GOP has to make. Short term, standing behind Trump makes some kind of sense - it keeps their base (mostly) intact. But long term, it would be better for them to tell that 27% of their party to go fuck themselves off a cliff; so that they could moderate and actually, you know, win elections.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:36:59pm

re: #506 KGxvi

This is one of those critical short term/long term decisions the GOP has to make. Short term, standing behind Trump makes some kind of sense - it keeps their base (mostly) intact. But long term, it would be better for them to tell that 27% of their party to go fuck themselves off a cliff; so that they could moderate and actually, you know, win elections.

The problem with the long term is those same people might expect them to function, and as we all know, the GOP is incapable of governing.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:37:51pm

It’s kind of funny. My cat won’t chase balls or play with any toys (even catnip) that would keep him active and help with the diet until I got him one of these:

amazon.com

It worked great for the first few days - he’d jump and run all around it chasing the feather. Until he wised up and realized that chasing wasn’t required. He could just lay down in one spot and eventually the feather would come back to him. Now that’s all he does with it - lays there until the feather comes around, then rolls on top of it so the motorized arm can’t move it away.

He still will come running from the other side of the house when I turn it on though, so there is that I guess.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:40:07pm

re: #506 KGxvi

What in the last 10 years or so has given you any reason to think that the GOP has any long-term thinking skills at all?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:40:09pm

re: #487 MsJ

I still think they are going to replace Trump at the convention to make it a tighter race.

Trump doesn’t really want it, he’s not working for it, his negatives are so bad he is going to screw every GOPer running and I do not see the GOP allowing it. I just don’t.

The convention is going to be a shit show of epic proportions.

It’s really just picking among horrendously bad options for the GOP at this point.

Josh Marshall - who’s been almost gleeful in his Trump posts this week - points out that Trump is basically not even running. He’s done NONE of the things he needs to do to run a national campaign, most importantly, FUNDRAISE. Apparently he got a list of 20 names from the RNC, but gave up after 3. He’s made no effort to recruit a team, even. These things take time, which is why you do them as soon as you’re the Presumptive Nominee.

Meanwhile, instead of pivoting to a sane, sober persona that might win people over, he blew an entire week attacking Judge Curiel, then his response to Orlando has been SO tonedeaf, self-congratulatory and over-the-top islamophobic that even the GOP is attacking him.

Every day, another GOP elected official says he won’t vote for him. The ones who aren’t saying that, are just plain not talking to reporters about him.

Last night Michael Steele said basically Trump has to make every news cycle about himself. So, when the disappointing Jobs Report came out, or the not-great-for-Hillary IG Report, instead of using those to cast Hillary and Obama in a negative light, Trump turned the focus back onto himself, squandering the opportunity in exchange for a few minutes more attention to HIM.

I can’t see how he comes back from this. Each time Trump delivers a Not-So-Crazy speech, like the night of the California Primary, you hear some pundits saying, “Watch out Democrats! Trump’s speech should scare you!”, and then the very next day he’s gone berserk again. I think the last 6 weeks have increasingly solidified his public image as a deranged narcissist, and he can’t unshit that bed.

Now, what can the GOP do? His presence on the ballot will be a drag on every competitive race in America. He’ll lose, and he’ll take the Senate with him, and maybe the House. Leave him on the ticket and it spells disaster.

But he’s STILL popular with the TP/GOP base. He’s unquestionably won enough delegates to claim the nomination on the first ballot. Any attempt to deny him the nomination, short of a ‘Dead Girl/Live Boy’ scenario will be like lighting off a nuke in the convention. His base will EXPLODE in righteous indignation, and the GOP will fracture.

Which scenario is worse?

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:41:06pm

re: #508 Whack-A-Mole

It’s kind of funny. My cat won’t chase balls or play with any toys (even catnip) that would keep him active and help with the diet until I got him one of these:

amazon.com

It worked great for the first few days - he’d jump and run all around it chasing the feather. Until he wised up and realized that chasing wasn’t required. He could just lay down in one spot and eventually the feather would come back to him. Now that’s all he does with it - lays there until the feather comes around, then rolls on top of it so the motorized arm can’t move it away.

He still will come running from the other side of the house when I turn it on though, so there is that I guess.

I used to have a dog whose idea of participation was to sit down and when the other dogs were running around, every time they came near her, she’d bark at them. The breeder I got her from nicknamed her “meatloaf”. I didn’t know why…at the time.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:41:07pm

re: #508 Whack-A-Mole

It’s kind of funny. My cat won’t chase balls or play with any toys (even catnip) that would keep him active and help with the diet until I got him one of these:

amazon.com

It worked great for the first few days - he’d jump and run all around it chasing the feather. Until he wised up and realized that chasing wasn’t required. He could just lay down in one spot and eventually the feather would come back to him. Now that’s all he does with it - lays there until the feather comes around, then rolls on top of it so the motorized arm can’t move it away.

He still will come running from the other side of the house when I turn it on though, so there is that I guess.

We used to use those little-rubber-squid-on-a-string toys, but my Dixie (R.I.P.) would just grab the squid, bite through the string, and take it away.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:44:20pm

re: #509 Whack-A-Mole

What in the last 10 years or so has given you any reason to think that the GOP has any long-term thinking skills at all?

Other than being smart enough to focus on state legislature elections in 2010 so they could gerrymander the House (and state legislatures) in 2012, they haven’t done much. They have, for most of the 21st century, been playing defense - they’ve been mostly reacting, fighting the last war if you will.

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nines09  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:46:36pm

Off to me wee Irish Public House…..Close enough and wings and laughter. With my love. Take this with you, and hold nothing cold close to yer heart. You could catch yer death. Don’t forget to breathe.

The Rumjacks - Blows & Unkind Words (Official Video)

Blows & Unkind Words

Oh now come fellow traveller, bend an ear t’ward me,
Come cease all yer rabble & row,
All yer shrill empty laughter is slicin’ right through me,
And there’s feck all so funny no never, no how.
Ye’d as well tell the Devil his work is complete,
We’ll sing ‘share the love’ but we can’t share the streets,
It’s the kick in the arse it’s the kiss on the cheek,
It’s the blows & unkind words.

My conscience rings like a siller bell & I can waltz like a dervish my dear,
Two boots full o’ gravel through your blazin’ hell
With a shit-smeared grin from ear to ear.
Some hearts are like lightning in a bottle, and others like a moth in a can,
Some hearts are a Dead Sea apple, a poison to God & man,
I’m the sweetest bag o’ rats that you’ve ever seen,
I look like trouble & I walk like a king,
It’s my thing, why bawl when I can sing
Of all the blows & unkind words?

You get around gob draggin’ on the ground like lifes gone pissin’ in yer mince,
Were you bullied as a child? Abandoned to the wild?
And been blamin’ every fucker ever since?
We’re all born blind but we’re born with a spine,
So get up & stop hatin’ all the world,
Keep callin’ out to me ‘cos its growin’ hard to see
Through all the blows & unkind words.

Oh get back to yer corners ye filthy wee savages,
No terror hast though for the brave,
Wi’ yer four letter words all at three second intervals,
Two clicks away from a frosty old grave,
If ye’re spoilin’ tae rumble then piss off to war,
And for all o’ yer trouble get hee-feckin’-haw,
For we’re staunch, fit & proud and we’ll suffer no more,
O’ yer blows & unkind words.

Let the putrid little shites while away their lonely nights,
Sayin’ all they wouldn’t dare by light of day,
And if the church or the state can’t find a cure for all the hate,
Then I can’t find the need to vote or even pray.
Ding dang Daisy go ahead & call me crazy,
But this shootin’ match could all be over soon,
And the big fat dame with the foreign sounding name,
Is backstage firin’ up a tune.

Oh you’ve a penny, I’ve a pound, let’s get drunk & fuck around,
We’ll barricade the door against the world,
A kiss o’ life before you leave, ‘cos its growin’ hard to breathe,
Through all the blows & unkind words.

You’ve a penny, I’ve a pound, let’s get drunk & fuck around,
We’ll barricade the door against the world,
I can’t take another night watchin’ grown men fight,
To music made for teenage girls.

Sláinte all.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:46:38pm

re: #510 Blind Frog Belly White

The GOP confuses and confounds me. They believed the skewed polls. All of them, Rove included. They think they had a deep bench of candidates this go round. If they believe their own bullshit there is no, and I mean absolutely, positively NO way to save the party. So either they marginalize the loonies (as the Dems have for the most part - until Bernie and all his bullshit - but that is going to calm down shortly) or they become the Whigs 2. I do not see any other way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:47:09pm

Ben Sasse introduces resolution to recognize June 19 as Juneteenth, so there’s that one positive thing in the Senate today.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:49:59pm

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ben Sasse introduces resolution to recognize June 19 as Juneteenth, so there’s that one positive thing in the Senate today.

You’d think the Lawrence Massacre would have prejudiced Nebraska against any pro-Confederate party, wouldn’t you?

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:50:26pm

re: #513 KGxvi

Other than being smart enough to focus on state legislature elections in 2010 so they could gerrymander the House (and state legislatures) in 2012, they haven’t done much. They have, for most of the 21st century, been playing defense - they’ve been mostly reacting, fighting the last war if you will.

Here’s the thing with gerrymandering…if your side goes completely off the rails, as it looks like trump may do to the GOP, what good is gerrymandering. You still need voters…even in the deepest red pockets, there are a lot of sane republicans whom I do not think will vote Trump. So if you have, say 30% total GOP population, if every one of those vote trump, that may not be enough to get trump - OR any downstream tickets.

You have to have something worth voting for otherwise you lose it all.

And what side and what numbers that is for this election cycle…I have no idea. But I do not think it is good for them.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:50:57pm

re: #515 MsJ

I see a splintering in the coming years. The racists, religious extremists, libertarians, and establishment types I think all end up going their separate ways. They will probably still end up caucusing together but I think Trump is the deathblow, or at least the herald of the end of the GOP as a single, unified entity.

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Jay C  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:51:10pm

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ben Sasse introduces resolution to recognize June 19 as Juneteenth, so there’s that one positive thing in the Senate today.

Bet Ted Cruz kills it - as insulting to Texans (who had their property unjustly confiscated without proper compensation).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:51:54pm

re: #518 MsJ

Here’s the thing with gerrymandering…if your side goes completely off the rails, as it looks like trump may do to the GOP, what good is gerrymandering. You still need voters…even in the deepest red pockets, there are a lot of sane republicans whom I do not think will vote Trump. So if you have, say 30% total GOP population, if every one of those vote trump, that may not be enough to get trump - OR any downstream tickets.

You have to have something worth voting for otherwise you lose it all.

And what side and what numbers that is for this election cycle…I have no idea. But I do not think it is good for them.

I’ve read that the more efficient gerrymandering is, the more fragile it is—anybody up on that?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:52:30pm

There are definitely days where I look at segments of the Internet and go o.O and back away slowly.

Twitter today is experiencing one of those days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:52:48pm

re: #519 Whack-A-Mole

I see a splintering in the next coming years. The racists, religious extremists, libertarians, and establishment types I think all end up going their separate ways. They will probably still end up caucusing together but I think Trump is the deathblow, or at least the herald of the end of the GOP as a single, unified entity.

Well, no matter what else happens, the Base can’t complain that the GOP Establishment foisted another Moderate on them. Sure, SOME will say, “He’s not a REAL Conservative!”, but by god they chose him!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:53:30pm

re: #517 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Never mind—that was Kansas, duh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:53:58pm

re: #520 Jay C

Bet Ted Cruz kills it - as insulting to Texans (who had their property unjustly confiscated without proper compensation).

It was passed by unanimous consent.
Ted is probably already on his way to somewhere that is not DC.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:54:43pm

re: #519 Whack-A-Mole

I see a splintering in the coming years. The racists, religious extremists, libertarians, and establishment types I think all end up going their separate ways. They will probably still end up caucusing together but I think Trump is the deathblow, or at least the herald of the end of the GOP as a single, unified entity.

That’s pretty much what I said yesterday. The GOP has too many “bases” with competing ideologies. They’ve all been lied to over the years, few (other than neocons) get what they want, and now that the SoCons are getting their stuff, the others are feeling left out. Hence…trump. But, IMHO, there simply is no way to make happy all of their base. You cannot turn out a vulgarian whoremonger and expect the SoCons to want to vote for him. Smart fiscal cons think he’s more liberal than a liberal. Too many to make happy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:55:13pm

re: #522 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There are definitely days where I look at segments of the Internet and go o.O and back away slowly.

Twitter today is experiencing one of those days.

Here, have a smile:

(forget dogs and cats, now it’s raccoons and cats!!!)

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:55:43pm

re: #518 MsJ

Here’s the thing with gerrymandering…if your side goes completely off the rails, as it looks like trump may do to the GOP, what good is gerrymandering. You still need voters…even in the deepest red pockets, there are a lot of sane republicans whom I do not think will vote Trump. So if you have, say 30% total GOP population, if every one of those vote trump, that may not be enough to get trump - OR any downstream tickets.

You have to have something worth voting for otherwise you lose it all.

And what side and what numbers that is for this election cycle…I have no idea. But I do not think it is good for them.

I agree that Trump is such a terrible nominee that he’s likely to hurt their gerrymandering. If they’d have nominated a traditional candidate this year (Rubio, Cruz, Kaisch, Bush) they would have held the House and more likely than not the Senate, regardless of what happened at the presidential level. That’s the value of gerrymandering, it gives you a built in edge, but there are always potential nominees that are so bad that they lose that edge.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:55:46pm

re: #519 Whack-A-Mole

I see a splintering in the coming years. The racists, religious extremists, libertarians, and establishment types I think all end up going their separate ways. They will probably still end up caucusing together but I think Trump is the deathblow, or at least the herald of the end of the GOP as a single, unified entity.

Had to.

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plansbandc  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:57:52pm

I think the batshit R’s will form their own party, which will have zero national clout. I think the sane R’s will meld with the right of center Dems, and the hard left will become a separate party. The coalition of sane R’s and right of center Dems will pretty much dominate for awhile until the millennials get more organized in the hard left. So we will coalesce into the true two party system again. Eventually.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:58:26pm

Uh huh. Whatever you say. Sourcing? Nah. That’s for pussies.

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EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:59:05pm

re: #518 MsJ

Here’s the thing with gerrymandering…if your side goes completely off the rails, as it looks like trump may do to the GOP, what good is gerrymandering. You still need voters…even in the deepest red pockets, there are a lot of sane republicans whom I do not think will vote Trump. So if you have, say 30% total GOP population, if every one of those vote trump, that may not be enough to get trump - OR any downstream tickets.

You have to have something worth voting for otherwise you lose it all.

And what side and what numbers that is for this election cycle…I have no idea. But I do not think it is good for them.

If Republicans go completely off the rails, Republican gerrymanders can blow up in their face and cause their losses to be worse than they would have been without the gerrymander.

This is my dream scenario for the 2016 general election.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:59:10pm

re: #527 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here, have a smile:

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(forget dogs and cats, now it’s raccoons and cats!!!)

Ahhh…sweet nothings whispered tenderly into your sweeties’ ear.

Ouch!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 2:59:28pm

re: #529 GlutenFreeJesus

Had to.

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Ha! I don’t remember Firestorm or Checkmate, but I’ll keep my eye out for a woman with a big wall of hair and a face like a frying pan….

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Timothy Watson  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:00:33pm

re: #531 MsJ

Uh huh. Whatever you say. Sourcing? Nah. That’s for pussies.

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Ah, the good ol’ unreconstructed Confederates of Virginia.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:00:39pm

re: #528 KGxvi

I agree that Trump is such a terrible nominee that he’s likely to hurt their gerrymandering. If they’d have nominated a traditional candidate this year (Rubio, Cruz, Kaisch, Bush) they would have held the House and more likely than not the Senate, regardless of what happened at the presidential level. That’s the value of gerrymandering, it gives you a built in edge, but there are always potential nominees that are so bad that they lose that edge.

Precisely. Even crazy fundy theocrat Cruz would have done well by them.

Which is why I think Trump is gone. One way or another, I do not at all believe Trump is going to be the GOP nominee come Nov.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:01:28pm

Ok, off to dinner. Trying some salmon burgers. Not a huge fan of fish but going to give them a shot.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:01:48pm

re: #521 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve read that the more efficient gerrymandering is, the more fragile it is—anybody up on that?

I think it depends on how the gerrymandering is done. In California, prior to the nonpartisan commission we created last time around, the district were drawn in a way that no Congressional or state legislative seats switched parties in close to a decade. They were drawn in a way that gave Republicans just enough seats in the Assembly and Senate that the Democrats wouldn’t have a super majority. So, ultimately, it depends on how greedy the drawing party is. The Dems in California could have gotten greedy and tried to drawn the districts in a way that would have given them a super majority, but that would have meant making some of the districts a bit too competitive.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:02:08pm

re: #530 plansbandc

I think the batshit R’s will form their own party, which will have zero national clout. I think the sane R’s will meld with the right of center Dems, and the hard left will become a separate party. The coalition of sane R’s and right of center Dems will pretty much dominate for awhile until the millennials get more organized in the hard left. So we will coalesce into the true two party system again. Eventually.

I hope with all my might that is not going to happen because that’s how Canada got conservative (actually the PC-Progressive Conservative Party) Harper for more than 10 years.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:02:36pm

re: #536 MsJ

Precisely. Even crazy fundy theocrat Cruz would have done well by them.

Which is why I think Trump is gone. One way or another, I do not at all believe Trump is going to be the GOP nominee come Nov.

I think it depends on his VP choice. If they’re even marginally less toxic, tRump may suffer some kind of accident on the campaign trail….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:04:02pm

Li’l Whiplash: I’M NOT SAYING OBAMA WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ORLANDO ATTACK BUT OBAMA WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ORLANDO ATTACK

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:04:19pm

According to data from the Center of Responsive Politics, no member of Congress has received more direct and indirect support from the National Rifle Association than the $7.7 million that has gone to McCain over the course of his career. In 2008 alone, the NRA spent more than $7.2 million in an unsuccessful attempt to defeat Obama and elect McCain, who was the Republican candidate that cycle.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:04:49pm

re: #537 Whack-A-Mole

Ok, off to dinner. Trying some salmon burgers. Not a huge fan of fish but going to give them a shot.

(Pro tip: fry up some onions nice and black/brown and cook the patties in the grilled onions. When making the patties themselves, grate an onion into the patty mix. Add some dill, salt and pepper. You’ll be good to go.)

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plansbandc  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:05:38pm

re: #539 MsJ

I think it’s a distinct possibility. But it will eventually swing very lib. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:05:39pm

re: #541 The Vicious Babushka

I feel stupider for having read that one little quote that was highlighted. How the fuck does Ben think not saying “radical Islam” discourages people from reporting threats?

The authorities don’t want to sort through the bigoted made-up bullshit, I’m pretty sure.

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EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:05:40pm

re: #521 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve read that the more efficient gerrymandering is, the more fragile it is—anybody up on that?

That’s correct. The whole point of a gerrymander is to concentrate the votes of the opposition party into a small number of districts that end up being ultra-safe for that party, while making a margin that is “just large enough” for the ruling party in all other districts.

The more aggressively that game is played, the greater the risk for a catastrophic reversal.

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darthstar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:06:12pm

Frustrating day at work…plus I have some gun humper telling me I’m afraid on twitter.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:06:16pm

re: #537 Whack-A-Mole

Ok, off to dinner. Trying some salmon burgers. Not a huge fan of fish but going to give them a shot.

Salmon is just about the only fish I don’t like—tastes like cat food.

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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:07:39pm

re: #544 plansbandc

I think it’s a distinct possibility. But it will eventually swing very lib. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

I can only hope. There is still far too much right wing propaganda for me to give that serious consideration at this time. Fox, Rush, et al, would have to completely implode. Along with their wannabes CNN and MSNBC. I see things going in the opposite direction in terms of propaganda. And we’ll never have a hard left that can do anything with that kind of propaganda.

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darthstar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:09:15pm

re: #548 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Salmon is just about the only fish I don’t like—tastes like cat food.

If it reads “Fancy Feast” on the label that could explain it.

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EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:10:45pm

re: #545 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I feel stupider for having read that one little quote that was highlighted. How the fuck does Ben think not saying “radical Islam” discourages people from reporting threats?

The authorities don’t want to sort through the bigoted made-up bullshit, I’m pretty sure.

Shapiro really is being an idiot here. All RWNJ suggestions on this topic are useless, and the idea of “destroying” jihadism is incoherent nonsense on its face.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:10:54pm

re: #549 MsJ

I can only hope. There is still far too much right wing propaganda for me to give that serious consideration at this time. Fox, Rush, et al, would have to completely implode. Along with their wannabes CNN and MSNBC. I see things going in the opposite direction in terms of propaganda. And we’ll never have a hard left that can do anything with that kind of propaganda.

I think cable-news watchers are 99% either old farts who vote GOP anyway, or political junkies like us who are negligible in numbers. I wouldn’t let the propaganda bother me.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:10:56pm

re: #534 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Is it a big sack or were the people shrunk? lol

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:11:53pm

For what it’s worth, I think the only way the GOP gets rid of Trump is if he has some sort of medical issue. But short of him having a heart attack on stage (and I’m not wishing that on him), I can’t imagine he’d actually admit to a medical issue (unless he really does want out).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:11:56pm

re: #550 darthstar

If it reads “Fancy Feast” on the label that could explain it.

Oh god—don’t get me started on canned salmon. Gah!

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CuriousLurker  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:12:02pm

Super Wingnut!

U.S. Constitution? Check.
U.S. flag? Check (two of them).
Bald Eagle? Oh yeah, and then some.
Tree of liberty/blood of tyrants: Check.
St. Ronnie? Check (a bunch of them)
Founding Fathers? Check.
#RedNationRising? Check.

The only things missing are molon labe and #Wolverines!!

Note that he has 25.6K followers. A significant portion of America has clearly lost its ever loving mind. ಠ_ಠ

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Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:13:25pm

re: #548 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Salmon is just about the only fish I don’t like—tastes like cat food.

You sure grabbed the wrong can for a sandwich once.. ;-)

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darthstar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:13:47pm
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MsJ  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:13:54pm

I am going to read for a bit before Jeopardy comes on. BBL.

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ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:14:04pm

re: #548 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Salmon is just about the only fish I don’t like—tastes like cat food.

Uh huh…and how do we know that???

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EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:15:16pm

re: #556 CuriousLurker

Is this a mating display of the common American wingnuticus vulgaris?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:15:29pm

re: #557 Great White Snark

You sure grabbed the wrong can for a sandwich once.. ;-)

I did—it said “tuna” but apparently wasn’t. You could chew it forever, but it just kept getting bigger and bigger….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:18:09pm

re: #562 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I did—it said “tuna” but apparently wasn’t. You could chew it forever, but it just kept getting bigger and bigger….

I’ve heard that from hunters about Grizzly Bear meat. Black Bear, they say, is not bad, if a little greasy, but Grizzly is awful and doesn’t diminish as you chew it.

Think I’ll stick with herbivores, at least among the mammals.

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wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:19:49pm

re: #563 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve heard that from hunters about Grizzly Bear meat. Black Bear, they say, is not bad, if a little greasy, but Grizzly is awful and doesn’t diminish as you chew it.

Think I’ll stick with herbivores, at least among the mammals.

Mr. w likes to make vegetarian stew. All the meat is from vegetarians.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:20:14pm

re: #564 wrenchwench

Mr. w likes to make vegetarian stew. All the meat is from vegetarians.

LOL

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:21:08pm

My new office is larger than my old one, and has a window so there’s lots of light. And because it’s on the north side, there’s never TOO MUCH light. And I left all the crap I didn’t want to move in the old office, so I can get rid of it.

All in all, a big plus.

Except for one thing. The desk puts me with my back to the door. I think I need a rearview mirror, so people can’t sneak up on me…

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:21:45pm

Trader Joe’s mahi burgers are divine imo.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:21:52pm

re: #564 wrenchwench

Mr. w likes to make vegetarian stew. All the meat is from vegetarians.

Makes me think of this:

snorgtees.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:24:24pm

re: #563 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve heard that from hunters about Grizzly Bear meat. Black Bear, they say, is not bad, if a little greasy, but Grizzly is awful and doesn’t diminish as you chew it.

Think I’ll stick with herbivores, at least among the mammals.

I had what I believe was black bear meat while traveling in Japan. It was in a stew and I don’t recall it being particularly greasy but I can’t say I recall much about it at all, really.

Also tried horse that trip. Tasty enough, but I’m not going to go out of my way to eat it either.

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wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:25:12pm

re: #566 Blind Frog Belly White

My new office is larger than my old one, and has a window so there’s lots of light. And because it’s on the north side, there’s never TOO MUCH light. And I left all the crap I didn’t want to move in the old office, so I can get rid of it.

All in all, a big plus.

Except for one thing. The desk puts me with my back to the door. I think I need a rearview mirror, so people can’t sneak up on me…

When I’m walking, I don’t miss my helmet but I miss the mirror on it.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:26:01pm

McCain on the TV

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plansbandc  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:26:10pm

I had bear jerky. It wasn’t delightful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:26:27pm

heh

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darthstar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:26:29pm

re: #571 Stanley Sea

McCain on the TV

Unplug your TV - make him go acoustic.

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Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:28:05pm

re: #565 CuriousLurker
re: #564 wrenchwench

Mr. w likes to make vegetarian stew. All the meat is from vegetarians.

Can able.

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darthstar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:28:06pm

re: #573 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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I have the same greeting for all dogs like that. “Hello sweet boy! Aren’t you just a big ole bag of dogfood!” (usually the owners just nod in agreement)

For the tiny dogs I say “Well, aren’t you just 40lbs of mean in a 3lb bag.” (also gets nods of agreement)

I love dogs.

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wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:28:18pm

re: #573 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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We have a friend named Paul who has an antique/junk store. We call it P-bay. Also Paul’s Mall.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:28:23pm

re: #569 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I had what I believe was black bear meat while traveling in Japan. It was in a stew and I don’t recall it being particularly greasy but I can’t say I recall much about it at all, really.

Also tried horse that trip. Tasty enough, but I’m not going to go out of my way to eat it either.

At a previous employer, we had a collaboration with a Japanese company, which involved occasional visits to their facility by some of our folks. The local delicacy was Basashi - horse sashimi. It was not the high point of the trip.

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KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:28:57pm

That’s no moon:

A small asteroid has been found circling Earth as the two objects orbit the sun together.

Scientists say it looks like the asteroid — called 2016 HO3 — has been out there for about 50 years and isn’t going away anytime soon.

“Our calculations indicate 2016 HO3 has been a stable quasi-satellite of Earth for almost a century, and it will continue to follow this pattern as Earth’s companion for centuries to come,” said Paul Chodas, manager of NASA’s Center for Near-Earth Object Studies.

It’s going to need a better name than 2016 HO3…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:29:05pm

re: #573 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Yeah. As we say, “Rango commented on your post”.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:30:02pm

re: #578 Blind Frog Belly White

At a previous employer, we had a collaboration with a Japanese company, which involved occasional visits to their facility by some of our folks. The local delicacy was Basashi - horse sashimi. It was not the high point of the trip.

Would probably be preferable to the bee larva in teriyaki sauce that mr. klys once inflicted on his coworkers. (This is apparently a thing in some parts of Japan. For the record, mr. klys didn’t like it much either - which somewhat shocks me, as he rarely says he doesn’t like something.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:30:48pm

re: #570 wrenchwench

When I’m walking, I don’t miss my helmet but I miss the mirror on it.

I’m too cool to use a mirror on my helmet, but with all the fucking Teslas around here, I may need to rethink that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:30:54pm

re: #581 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The moral of this story is that if mr. klys offers you food, do not accept until you find out what it is.

If he refuses to say, decline.

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Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:31:25pm

re: #569 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also tried horse that trip. Tasty enough, but I’m not going to go out of my way to eat it either.

Onoz, you ate Black Beauty!//

I’d really like to taste horse steak…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:32:01pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:32:25pm

re: #584 Nyet

Onoz, you ate Black Beauty!//

I’d really like to taste horse steak…

It wasn’t a steak. Probably more in line with the sashimi, although it had been allowed to at least look at the grill.

It’s the red peeking out of the flower cup there.
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:32:50pm

re: #569 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I had what I believe was black bear meat while traveling in Japan. It was in a stew and I don’t recall it being particularly greasy but I can’t say I recall much about it at all, really.

Also tried horse that trip. Tasty enough, but I’m not going to go out of my way to eat it either.

When I was in grade school, they went through a period of feeding us what I later realized (during the 1970s beef panic) was horsemeat. Looks like beef, just bigger, coarser muscle fibers. Tastes like sweat.

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wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:33:17pm

re: #582 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m too cool to use a mirror on my helmet, but with all the fucking Teslas around here, I may need to rethink that.

Be cooler than the rest. Have the biggest fucking helmet mirror ever.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:33:40pm

re: #581 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Would probably be preferable to the bee larva in teriyaki sauce that mr. klys once inflicted on his coworkers. (This is apparently a thing in some parts of Japan. For the record, mr. klys didn’t like it much either - which somewhat shocks me, as he rarely says he doesn’t like something.)

Reminds me of the exchange from The Lion King:

Timon: Let’s go rustle up some grub!

Simba: Eeew! What is that?

Pumba (with full mouth): It’s a grub.

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Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:35:02pm

Heh, all this exotic food now I’m hungry and look at the menu where we are going… LOL
districtpubnoho.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:35:09pm

re: #585 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patty Duke Show Intro

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CuriousLurker  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:35:20pm

re: #569 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I had what I believe was black bear meat while traveling in Japan. It was in a stew and I don’t recall it being particularly greasy but I can’t say I recall much about it at all, really.

Also tried horse that trip. Tasty enough, but I’m not going to go out of my way to eat it either.

I’ll eat beef steak/roast/ground, chicken & turkey breast (the dark meat is too…slimy *gag*), and occasionally lamb. No gristle, fat, or that slimy gelatinous stuff (whatever it is). No other body parts and no other animals. I’ve tried goat & deer, but NO (too gamey). No ducks (never even tasted one), pheasants, doves, etc. Allergic to seafood. Won’t touch raw veggies (unless pickles count) and dislike most green veggies.

Very picky eater.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:35:31pm

re: #588 wrenchwench

Be cooler than the rest. Have the biggest fucking helmet mirror ever.

If you’re going to throw convention out the window, use both hands.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:35:43pm

re: #589 Blind Frog Belly White

Reminds me of the exchange from The Lion King:

Slimy, but satisfying!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:35:47pm

re: #590 Great White Snark

I’ve had alligator. It was kind of dry. Might be better with the pork to provide some juice.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:37:18pm

re: #592 CuriousLurker

My grandma does venison tips in a brown sauce that’s fantastic. Yum.

I eat a lot of chicken these days. I’m not a huge fan, but I like losing weight, so…

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stpaulbear  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:37:47pm

re: #550 darthstar

If it reads “Fancy Feast” on the label that could explain it.

Savory Salmon.

My vet sent me home with a can of FF Savory Salmon once when my cat was sick and wouldn’t eat anything. That was about 8 years ago and she has demanded her 1/3 can of Savory Salmon every night since. She gets her regular meal in the morning and evening (different varieties of Merrick’s canned food, of which she sometimes ‘disapproves’), and then at 8:00 she gets her little bowl of ‘ice cream’ - and she does scream if she doesn’t get it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:37:58pm

re: #590 Great White Snark

Heh, all this exotic food now I’m hungry and look at the menu where we are going… LOL
districtpubnoho.com

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“My friends tell me, ‘Here! Try WEASEL! Try SQUIRREL! It tastes just like chicken!’ If it tastes just like chicken, why don’t you give me some damn chicken!!” - Bobcat Goldthwaite

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:39:10pm

re: #596 Nyet

Why you really should (but really can’t) eat horsemeat

In CA, it is illegal to serve horsemeat, raise horses for human consumption, or buy/sell horsemeat. Per the state constitution.

This is what happens when a Japanese restaurant included it (quietly) on the menu opened up near one of the rather rich towns in Silicon Valley, where apparently the horse lovers were very offended.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:39:21pm

re: #574 darthstar

Unplug your TV - make him go acoustic.

CNN just showed him at a podium, I assume trying to do damage control.

They didn’t even switch over to him.

Poor Mac.

602
Timothy Watson  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:39:28pm

Album only song? Fuck you, iTunes.

603
EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:41:13pm

re: #599 Blind Frog Belly White

This can be viewed as a (trivial) example of the is-ought disconnect.

Just because humans can eat nearly anything does not mean there is any obligation to do so.

604
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:41:30pm

re: #600 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In CA, it is illegal to serve horsemeat, raise horses for human consumption, or buy/sell horsemeat. Per the state constitution.

This is what happens when a Japanese restaurant included it (quietly) on the menu opened up near one of the rather rich towns in Silicon Valley, where apparently the horse lovers were very offended.

Oh, yeah. Woodside, Portola Valley, Los Altos - lots and lots of rich people with horses.

605
KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:42:28pm

re: #592 CuriousLurker

I’ll eat beef steak/roast/ground, chicken & turkey breast (the dark meat is too…slimy *gag*), and occasionally lamb. No gristle, fat, or that slimy gelatinous stuff (whatever it is). No other body parts and no other animals. I’ve tried goat & deer, but NO (too gamey). No ducks (never even tasted one), pheasants, doves, etc. Allergic to seafood. Won’t touch raw veggies (unless pickles count) and dislike most green veggies.

Very picky eater.

Duck is basically a greasier version of chicken, if I remember correctly from the few times I’ve had it. I also like bison, similar to beef but a bit more lean. I’m the sort that will try most meats at least once. But I’m quite picky when it comes to veggies, though I’ve gotten better as I’ve found better ways of cooking them (meaning: not opening the can, pouring them into a bowl, and then microwaving them).

606
Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:42:51pm

re: #600 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Pig- and cow-lovers need not apply. ;)

607
EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:43:09pm

re: #604 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, yeah. Woodside, Portola Valley, Los Altos - lots and lots of rich people with horses.

That passed by initiative a while back, as I recall. Rich people with horses who worked the system. Good for them.

608
CuriousLurker  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:43:23pm

Okay, feline overlord is whining incessantly, so I’m outta here for now.

Later, lizards.

609
makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:43:53pm

re: #579 KGxvi

That’s no moon:

It’s going to need a better name than 2016 HO3…

Little Marco.

610
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:45:15pm

re: #605 KGxvi

Duck is basically a greasier version of chicken, if I remember correctly from the few times I’ve had it. I also like bison, similar to beef but a bit more lean. I’m the sort that will try most meats at least once. But I’m quite picky when it comes to veggies, though I’ve gotten better as I’ve found better ways of cooking them (meaning: not opening the can, pouring them into a bowl, and then microwaving them).

I do a lot of bison whenever I would be working with ground beef. It’s pricier, but healthier and we can afford it. I have a tasty enchilada casserole that I do with it that’s yummy.

611
cat-tikvah  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:46:54pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

That might include Canada. I want all Canadian-born immigrants immediately deported!

612
makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:47:30pm

re: #595 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ve had alligator. It was kind of dry. Might be better with the pork to provide some juice.

A Cajun joint by us serves what we call Gator McNuggets - deep-fried chunks o’gator. Pretty tasty, actually.

613
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:48:18pm

re: #612 makeitstop

A Cajun joint by us serves what we call Gator McNuggets - deep-fried chunks o’gator. Pretty tasty, actually.

I could see that working. I think mine was grilled, which is not going to help the meat stay juicy.

614
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:49:00pm

I think the most exotic thing I have ever eaten was elk liver. From an elk whose stuffed head was starting down from the wall at us.

615
KGxvi  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:50:39pm

re: #613 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I could see that working. I think mine was grilled, which is not going to help the meat stay juicy.

fried gator is the way to go if you’re going with gator.

Shark steaks are another one of my favorites.

616
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:51:02pm

re: #614 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think the most exotic thing I have ever eaten was elk liver. From an elk whose stuffed head was starting down from the wall at us.

“Good evening,” it lowed and sat back heavily on its haunches, “I am the main Dish of the Day. May I interest you in the parts of my body?”

617
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:51:20pm

re: #615 KGxvi

fried gator is the way to go if you’re going with gator.

Shark steaks are another one of my favorites.

I had a shark stir-fry once…

618
Great White Snark  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:52:17pm

Invitations enclosed

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619
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:54:16pm

Evening Lizardim.

620
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:55:09pm

re: #618 Great White Snark

MFhfJaf4OLraeksubCK3/arNEAqu6MwYMT+WL320mwQjieK2PoiunANn2wlHDg2pqQ21Z1TLCtNB+bmz93VrMfVygN+P+1M34v3ZUQHxgLqLxqXy8Z8TN+WZXe5MNBCAWCw9UvmbA/lffNnq4Uzs/vrhGHoEYBI9LEAoCp7cDfSsywfeg7b1OfxCyEt1QvCKumC6KRA1MUOgz4KuUZObDQ==

621
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:55:20pm

re: #614 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think the most exotic thing I have ever eaten was elk liver. From an elk whose stuffed head was starting down from the wall at us.

I’ve had elk, but I can’t abide liver. Yuck. My parents LOVED the stuff. Liver and onions, fried chicken livers. Bleah.

Kidneys, now - that’s good eating! Especially lamb kidneys. Dad used to stew them with mushrooms and sherry for special breakfasts. Mix the gravy with the yolk from a fried egg….

I’d end up practically polishing the plate with toast to get all the kidney goodness!

622
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:55:44pm

re: #613 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I could see that working. I think mine was grilled, which is not going to help the meat stay juicy.

I had the fried gator once at the state fair. It tasted like deep-fried rubber. I wasn’t impressed.

623
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:57:19pm

re: #622 thedopefishlives

I had the fried gator once at the state fair. It tasted like deep-fried rubber. I wasn’t impressed.

Well, THERE’S your PROBLEM!
///

After a number of disappointments, I’ve concluded the only thing worth eating at most fairs is Funnel Cake.

624
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:57:44pm

re: #622 thedopefishlives

I had the fried gator once at the state fair. It tasted like deep-fried rubber. I wasn’t impressed.

CA’s state fair has a faaaaaaaaaaaaaabulous wine garden.

Ahem.

625
blueraven  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:57:48pm

What could possibly go wrong?
Oh, Texas. Sigh.

626
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:58:18pm

re: #623 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, THERE’S your PROBLEM!
///

After a number of disappointments, I’ve concluded the only thing worth eating at most fairs is Funnel Cake.

The MN state fair has quite a lot of food that’s actually good. The problem is that it just has quite a lot of food, period, which is 1) problematic for dieting and 2) leaves room for a lot of not-so-good food, as well.

627
makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:58:21pm

re: #618 Great White Snark

Invitations enclosed

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Umm…could you move closer? Like to Nassau County or somewhere?

628
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:58:24pm

re: #623 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, THERE’S your PROBLEM!
///

After a number of disappointments, I’ve concluded the only thing worth eating at most fairs is Funnel Cake.

What if you don’t like funnel cake?

629
plansbandc  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:58:46pm

Gator isn’t bad. Buffalo isn’t too bad, but too much like beef. Not a fan of beef.

Frog legs are delish. Antelope and elk are quite good too.

But mostly I eat chicken and veggies. No refined carbs. Excellent for losing lots of weight.

630
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 3:59:00pm

re: #628 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What if you don’t like funnel cake?

My dad worked at a funnel cake stand at the county fair in the town where he grew up. He can’t stand the sight or smell of one of the things since.

631
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:00:24pm

re: #628 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What if you don’t like funnel cake?

BURN, HERETIC!!!

632
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:00:59pm

re: #625 blueraven

What could possibly go wrong?
Oh, Texas. Sigh.

This is just the sort of thing that will help keep Trump in the headlines and distract the dialogue from his utter lack of qualifications for the office of the Presidency.

633
wrenchwench  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:01:07pm

re: #631 Blind Frog Belly White

BURN, HERETIC!!!

Mmmmmm, burnt heretic.

634
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:01:23pm

re: #631 Blind Frog Belly White

BURN, HERETIC!!!

You can eat your funnel cake and mine if I get the wine garden.

(Get the souvenir wine glass and then they do double pours for your money. Best deal in the fair.)

635
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:01:44pm

re: #630 thedopefishlives

My dad worked at a funnel cake stand at the county fair in the town where he grew up. He can’t stand the sight or smell of one of the things since.

My Dad worked for a fruit processing company for 50 years. Still loves Apples. LOVES ‘em!

636
lockjawcanbefun  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:02:01pm

re: #625 blueraven

I know two guys who have been doing their bad-ass-ercise.

637
Dave In Austin  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:03:08pm

re: #558 darthstar

Man, it must suck to be afraid all the time….

638
makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:04:28pm

re: #635 Blind Frog Belly White

My Dad worked for a fruit processing company for 50 years. Still loves Apples. LOVES ‘em!

I worked at a spaghetti factory one summer when I was still in high school. After cleaning out the drying rooms a couple of times, it put me off spaghetti for probably ten years.

But I eventually came back, because spaghetti.

639
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:04:33pm

re: #637 Dave In Austin

Man, it must suck to be afraid all the time….

It does. It really does. I can tell you from personal experience, you’re basically a walking time bomb with high blood pressure and other potential heart problems. It’s not healthy and it’s deeply dissatisfying.

640
stpaulbear  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:04:44pm

re: #626 thedopefishlives

The MN state fair has quite a lot of food that’s actually good. The problem is that it just has quite a lot of food, period, which is 1) problematic for dieting and 2) leaves room for a lot of not-so-good food, as well.

You cannot take the word ‘diet’ with you onto the MN State Fairgrounds. My favorite is the Scottish Egg - a hardboiled egg wrapped in sausage and crumbs, deep fried and served with horseradish sauce. Also the food building cinammon rolls slathered in cream cheese frosting. SO many favorites at the MN State Fair.

The fair is for ‘recovering from’, not for dieting during.

641
451_Montag  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:05:01pm

If we’re doing food…

Worst to look at was half a sheep’s head in broth… tasted alright though.

Had Suri both live and deep fried. Giant palm grubs.

Really like Cuy, that’s Guinea Pig.

Tried Alligator and Turtle, bit meh.

Freakiest… Rat. Had that in the jungle once, quite nice.

Lived in Peru for a few years.

642
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:05:57pm

re: #640 stpaulbear

You cannot take the word ‘diet’ with you onto the MN State Fairgrounds. My favorite is the Scottish Egg - a hardboiled egg wrapped in sausage and crumbs, deep fried and served with horseradish sauce. Also the food building cinammon rolls slathered in cream cheese frosting. SO many favorites at the MN State Fair.

The fair is for ‘recovering from’, not for dieting during.

mr. klys gets his Scottish Egg fix at the Highland Games here in September.

Although we’re going to one this weekend, but I don’t know if the vendor who normally has them will be there. (I prefer the sausage rolls.)

643
EPR-radar  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:06:35pm

re: #625 blueraven

The Nazis had better uniforms for this kind of thing.

644
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:06:39pm

re: #640 stpaulbear

You cannot take the word ‘diet’ with you onto the MN State Fairgrounds. My favorite is the Scottish Egg - a hardboiled egg wrapped in sausage and crumbs, deep fried and served with horseradish sauce. Also the food building cinammon rolls slathered in cream cheese frosting. SO many favorites at the MN State Fair.

The fair is for ‘recovering from’, not for dieting during.

Yeah, I know. Last year was my first trip whilst dieting. I basically didn’t eat at all for the rest of the weekend, either before or after. It worked out pretty well. Me, I’m pretty simple; poutine, pork chop on a stick, deep fried cheese curds, and some kind of dessert.

645
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:07:33pm

re: #642 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys gets his Scottish Egg fix at the Highland Games here in September.

Although we’re going to one this weekend, but I don’t know if the vendor who normally has them will be there. (I prefer the sausage rolls.)

Mrs. Fish’s big indulgence is deep-fried pickles. There’s a specific vendor that used to be at the state fair that she always used to buy them from. She was crushed when they stopped showing up one year. Of course, now we have our own deep fryer, so she just has to find or invent a recipe for a batter that she likes.

646
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:08:35pm

re: #644 thedopefishlives

Maybe replace the poutine with a steak sandwich from the vendor over by the grandstands. Those things are so good. And of course, a bucket of cookies to bring home and snack on through the rest of the weekend.

647
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:09:55pm

Damn you people! You’re gonna drive me to the bowl of chocolate over by the Lab Manager’s office!

648
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:09:58pm

I did one of the local county fairs this weekend (wanted to see the needlework entries, which were fewer and disappointing this year - but I didn’t enter mine so I shouldn’t really talk - although part of that is because you have to have the damn things framed) and there are pretty much no food that demanded to be eaten.

Which was probably for the best.

649
Eventual Carrion  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:12:05pm

re: #466 GlutenFreeJesus

Let’s drug test all members of Congress too. Some of them appear to be on crack.

They are paid by government money, testing them would only be fair.

650
Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:12:05pm

For a foodie thread: It’s a test of skill and good humor to be asked to grill for a vegetarian.

651
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:13:01pm

re: #615 KGxvi

fried gator is the way to go if you’re going with gator.

Shark steaks are another one of my favorites.

40 years ago, a Fish ‘n’ Chips joint opened up in North City run by a commercial fisherman, the selling point being fresh local fish. Of course, because Puget Sound, 9/10 of what he caught were dogfish (or as Frank Zappa calls them, mud sharks).

Now, it’s illegal to sell dogfish because they live so long they accumulate too much mercury. (“Greyfish” was popular for fish and chips in Britain, where their mercury standards were higher). So the guy calls the state and asks: “I know I can’t sell dogfish, but what if I give it away?” …”I’ll get back to you.”

Callback the next day: “If you don’t charge for it, there’s nothing we can do.” So he offered free dogfish fish and chips for a week. It was pretty good—kind of coarse flakes. You have to soak it in vinegar overnight to get rid of the ammonia taste….

652
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:13:14pm

re: #650 Decatur Deb

For a foodie thread: It’s a test of skill and good humor to be asked to grill for a vegetarian.

I have never been able to get vegetables quite right. I have plenty of opportunity to do so, because Mrs. Fish continuously asks me to grill veggies as side dishes on barbecue nights, but I just can’t seem to get the timing right.

653
stpaulbear  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:13:44pm

re: #646 thedopefishlives

Maybe replace the poutine with a steak sandwich from the vendor over by the grandstands. Those things are so good. And of course, a bucket of cookies to bring home and snack on through the rest of the weekend.

Ugliest thing at the state fair is the batter-dipped deep fried Snickers or Milky Way bars. They look like a steaming turd pronto pup.

654
Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:15:16pm

re: #652 thedopefishlives

I have never been able to get vegetables quite right. I have plenty of opportunity to do so, because Mrs. Fish continuously asks me to grill veggies as side dishes on barbecue nights, but I just can’t seem to get the timing right.

Kid is getting grilled eggplant tonight. I’ve done good stuffed squash and peppers, but they stuff better with meat.

655
Nyet  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:15:26pm

re: #647 Blind Frog Belly White

Damn you people! You’re gonna drive me to the bowl of chocolate over by the Lab Manager’s office!

You know you want it.

656
ObserverArt  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:15:57pm

re: #597 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My grandma does venison tips in a brown sauce that’s fantastic. Yum.

I eat a lot of chicken these days. I’m not a huge fan, but I like losing weight, so…

The key to great chicken is sauces, marinades and coatings.

I love hot so I am all in on Buffalo sauces, Szechuan. Also Teriyaki that’s a little more pungent with ginger, garlic and onion powder and less sugar. I make all my own sauces except sometimes I will buy Buffalo sauce. Kroger has a good one that is a great value.

I like some balsamic vinegar with herbs and lemon based marinades. Also wine vinegar with soy and Worcestershire sauce with some lemon, ginger, onion and garlic powder.

Worcestershire, water and a little melted butter sprayed on chicken on the grill is yum! Worcestershire seems to really work it’s way into chicken. And it browns nicely.

I love Cajun spices, chili powder and cayenne powder mixed into a bit of flour and corn meal as a coating…adds some zip. I bake chicken tenders in this coating and then take them out, drizzle some Buffalo sauce on them and then put them under the broiler to finish off by crisping them up.

And now I am getting hungry.

Sounds like time for a salad…and I picked up some little boneless wings in Buffalo sauce at Kroger’s earlier. Quick dinner before going to friend’s for the Cleveland Cavs game. Let’s see if they can get it to 7 games.

Later!

657
makeitstop  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:17:46pm

re: #650 Decatur Deb

For a foodie thread: It’s a test of skill and good humor to be asked to grill for a vegetarian.

My wife is a vegetarian, and she’s discovered a bunch of stuff to grill. She takes beets and slices them and throws ‘em on the grill - calls them ‘beet cookies.’

She got me a meatball holder for the gill two Christmases ago, but she’s since discovered that she can fill it up with Brussels Sprouts and grill them, too.

658
thedopefishlives  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:17:53pm

re: #656 ObserverArt

Mrs. Fish is big on hot sauces and spices. I’ve gotten pretty good at throwing together spice combinations with the off-the-shelf mixes to create new flavors.

659
Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:19:53pm

re: #657 makeitstop

My wife is a vegetarian, and she’s discovered a bunch of stuff to grill. She takes beets and slices them and throws ‘em on the grill - calls them ‘beet cookies.’

She got me a meatball holder for the gill two Christmases ago, but she’s since discovered that she can fill it up with Brussels Sprouts and grill them, too.

Stay out of Alabama. Our town has a judged BBQ competition for elementary school agegroups.

660
Archangelus  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:21:04pm

re: #625 blueraven

What could possibly go wrong?
Oh, Texas. Sigh.

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Oh sure, that’ll end well - said no one ever…

661
Decatur Deb  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:22:51pm

Off to spread the coals. That big company that turns industrial waste into briquets has marketed a mesquite smoke product. Wife bought some, but I’m skeptical.

662
Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 16, 2016 • 4:55:07pm

re: #648 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I did one of the local county fairs this weekend (wanted to see the needlework entries, which were fewer and disappointing this year - but I didn’t enter mine so I shouldn’t really talk - although part of that is because you have to have the damn things framed) and there are pretty much no food that demanded to be eaten.

Which was probably for the best.

Speaking of needlework part of the museum for the Bayeux Tapestry explained the composition of the cloth, thread, dyes, how they got the different dye colors used (10 different ones), and also the four kinds of stitches used in making it.

663
Shimshon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:05:14pm

re: #265 Dr. Matt

Whoa:

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Are they… are they treating President Obama like an actual human being? Oh that will NOT play well with the GOP base.

Remember, Democrats and Obama are dividing America, says the party that refused to support Chris Christie merely for embracing Obama after the natural disaster.

664
Shimshon  Jun 16, 2016 • 10:06:38pm

re: #476 Whack-A-Mole

He’s actually back with the ex-wife now (which does not make me happy in any way, shape, or form). But my son wanted the pup over there again since he was spending more time at his mom’s house than mine (and it was introduced into the family as ‘his’ so….).

So now I just have Enderman, my exceedingly large feline overlord:

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He’s just huge, probably 16 or 17 lbs. I’ve had him on a diet for the last month or so which he hates. He wakes me up around 3AM every morning (about 3 hours early) because he thinks it’s time for me to feed him. When I won’t he acts like a little snot doing stuff like pushing the box fan out of the window, or trying to knock everything off the stand next to the bed.

It’s not the cats fault you so obviously do not understand the master/slave relationship. You do as your master says. He wants food at 3am. You give it to him. Know your role and be glad he hasn’t become too upset to find a new slave, yet.


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