Donald Trump Comes Out in Favor of Racial Profiling, of Course

Can internment camps be far behind?
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The only surprise here is that it took Trump this long to start advocating for racial profiling.

His whole campaign has been based on ruthlessly exploiting the worst bigoted and racist memes of the far right: torture, religious tests for citizenship, giant walls to keep out the dark-skinned hordes, etc. Supporting racial profiling is just one more piece of the horrible puzzle.

Republican Donald Trump said on Sunday the United States should consider more racial profiling, in response to a question about whether he supported greater law enforcement scrutiny of Muslim Americans after the Orlando mass shooting.

“I think profiling is something that we’re going to have to start thinking about as a country,” Trump told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

“You look at Israel and you look at others, and they do it and they do it successfully. And you know, I hate the concept of profiling, but we have to start using common sense,” he said when asked if he supported increased profiling of Muslims in America.

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Lidane  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:38:30pm

Trump’s minority outreach seems to be going well. //////

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:38:42pm

My surprise, etc.

This is the new, more Presidential Trump?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:39:32pm

So when do Republican leaders reverse their endorsements of this man who is not even hiding his racism?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:41:58pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

So when do Republican leaders reverse their endorsements of this man who is not even hiding his racism?

After they check the polling.

And check it again.

And again.

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Lidane  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:44:29pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

So when do Republican leaders reverse their endorsements of this man who is not even hiding his racism?

Never. They’re stuck with him.

Whether the GOP likes it or not, Trump won the primaries fair and square. They can’t strip the nomination from him at the RNC without starting an all out war in the party and creating chaos. At this point, they might as well concede the presidency and try to stop as much of the bleeding as they can in the down ballot races.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:48:37pm

re: #5 Lidane

They will never do that. As ‘conservatives’ they believe they are always correct and never, ever let things get out of control.

To admit they were mistaken and lost control would be admitting they have no right to the power they have and the power they seek.

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unproven innocence  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:49:53pm

I’m beginning to think it’s not going to matter how tall the Trump Wall will be, or how long, or where it gets built —so long as it’s relatively bullet-proof.

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KGxvi  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:52:21pm

re: #7 unproven innocence

I’m beginning to think it’s not going to matter how tall the Trump Wall will be, or how long, or where it gets built —so long as it’s relatively bullet-proof.

What Trump didn’t tell you was that the Wall wasn’t to keep Mexicans out, it was to keep Americans in

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gocart mozart  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:52:55pm

Is this stupid or really stupid?

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:54:00pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

That is so far beyond stupid that it’s circled back around to stupid again.

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majii  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:54:43pm

One has to have been consistently and persistently profiled in order to understand the psychological damage it does. Neither Trump nor many, if any, of his supporters understand how depressing, demeaning, and dehumanizing it is to be profiled and pre-classified as someone who is guilty of “some” crime at first sight. This is why it’s so easy for Trump and his supporters to advocate profiling others who don’t look like themselves or who may not practice the same religion they do. Profiling a particular group of persons in America is un-American and goes against everything Trump and his supporters would say they “love” about this nation. It also reveals their lies and hypocrisy. They don’t internalize and/or revere the principals and ideals upon which the nation was founded, and it’s about time that they admit it. Their mindset in relation to governing and society is more akin to that of fascists and fascism.

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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:55:33pm

re: #8 KGxvi

What Trump didn’t tell you was that the Wall wasn’t to keep Mexicans out, it was to keep Americans in

When Rev. Pat Robertson ran for the Republican primary, he suggested building a wall for that exact purpose.

I was prepared to leave the country if he’d been elected.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:55:54pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

Is this stupid or really stupid?

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It’s really, really stupid. I mean, Hillary has empowered Chelsea so that she doesn’t feel compelled to make a silly meme like that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:58:12pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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stpaulbear  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:59:20pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

Is this stupid or really stupid?

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Umm, Hillary is going to be the next president of the United States. I think she’s got this ‘empowered’ thing covered pretty well.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:59:23pm
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Timothy Watson  Jun 19, 2016 • 6:59:51pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Oh, that preemptively wins the STUPIDEST MEME OF THE WEEK award at least.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:00:01pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

??? Of course her Billionaire father has empowered her. I would expect no less. Stupid tweet.

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stpaulbear  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:01:25pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

Is this stupid or really stupid?

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I wonder if Ivanka even had any say in that ad.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:01:38pm

re: #11 majii

Rather like the asshat from Long Island claiming he was a white supremicist out of love of his family not out of hate…

I watch it often enough up here. Asians (like my adoptive son) & Native Americans are the more commonly profiled up here. But any African Americans are too. My priest has two brothers that they adopted from Liberia at barely the end of that nasty civil war (they didn’t really understand how bad it was) and I fear for those two 14 year old black men as they grow up even though they’re the sons of a white priest and the rest of the family is white - to the point they don’t get being black in many cultural contexts.

That doesn’t have to be a problem, I had a girlfriend in the army who came from an upper middle class background (dad was a MD) and she had more in common with me than with the guys from the inner city (we were both Ramones fans for example). Yet, I’m not sure how these guys will do without role models to help them navigate the nasty shoals of American racial ignorance.

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TedStriker  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:02:51pm

re: #12 Anymouse

When Rev. Pat Robertson ran for the Republican primary, he suggested building a wall for that exact purpose.

I was prepared to leave the country if he’d been elected.

Sounds like ol’ Pat cribbed the idea from Escape from L.A.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:04:21pm

re: #12 Anymouse

I was prepared to leave the country if he’d been elected.

I’ll never leave. But I may head out for the boonies with my copy of “The Partisan’s Companion - The Red Army’s Do-It-Yourself, Nazi-Bashing Guerrilla Warfare Manual” in hand…

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KGxvi  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:04:42pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

No, the Framers called Super Delegates “Electors” and we still have them

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:05:52pm

Does that mean we can profile him?

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:06:25pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Objection! Presumes a close race even existed! 3,000,000 Americans say otherwise.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:08:39pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:09:13pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

I wonder if Ivanka even had any say in that ad.

Well who else would she learn empowerment from? Ivana? Whose hair was ripped out of her scalp before she was raped?

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:09:14pm

re: #16 The Vicious Babushka

NO, THIS IS THE STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Responses to the 1st and second attack points:

1. The rifles allowed to walk during ‘Fast and Furious’ were semi-auto, not full-auto. There’s also the fact that Obama didn’t know about the scheme until it had already started to FAIL severely. The ATF offices involved should have seen a through cleaning, complete with firings, and Obama can be faulted for not doing that. But he wasn’t the one who let the guns ‘walk’.

2. Yes, Obama should have fought harder to keep a residual US force in Iraq. but that said, the person most responsible for the fall of Mosul was Nouri al-Maliki, who fucked up the Iraqi army in an attempt to make sure it would serve his interests first. The result was Mosul was garrisoned by incompetent officers and ill-supplied and ill-trained enlisted soldiers. This, far more than anything done by Barack Obama, caused the fall of Mosul.

Both of these attacks share the same flaw: They put Barack Obama in the center of screw-ups for which he was not primarily responsible.

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gocart mozart  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:10:05pm
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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:10:25pm

re: #23 William Lewis

I’ll never leave. But I may head out for the boonies with my copy of “The Partisan’s Companion - The Red Army’s Do-It-Yourself, Nazi-Bashing Guerrilla Warfare Manual” in hand…

My family fled Gdansk just before Hitler went to war with Poland. Fleeing fascists seems to be tradition in my family. /s

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:14:04pm

re: #31 Anymouse

My family fled Gdansk just before Hitler went to war with Poland. Fleeing fascists seems to be tradition in my family. /s

Some have to flee. Look that the Polish Army In The West fighting alongside the rest of the United Nations against the Fascists

But others have to stay and gum up the works as best as possible for as long as possible.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:14:40pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

“…If we are to live in a tolerant society where people are allowed to hold views about sex that deviate from the priestly councils at the media corporations and in academia and in politics — if we are to live in a society where people are allowed to be Christian — we have to deal with that. A good training for tolerance is to understand and accurately convey the views of those sexual revolution heretics who stubbornly keep following their ancient teachings no matter how much the forces of conformity bear down.”
thefederalist.com

This is such a bunch of DARVO victimhood bullshit.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:15:06pm

Just finished watching GoT

The battle scene was freaking nuts and showed real good work of how pikemen schiltrons worked in medieval times. Watching Ramsey get turned into Bolton Brand Puppy Chow was the best thing so far this season :)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:15:36pm

re: #6 Romantic Heretic

They will never do that. As ‘conservatives’ they believe they are always correct and never, ever let things get out of control.

To admit they were mistaken and lost control would be admitting they have no right to the power they have and the power they seek.

The sane ones know it. I give a lot of hope to the sane ones. We will see.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:16:57pm

Both Boys’ Girlfriends got me presents for Fathers’ Day. Neither Boy did.

What’s wrong with this picture?

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gocart mozart  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:16:57pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka
The original plan was to have the “superdelegates” decide everything.

The emergence of political parties and nationally coordinated election campaigns soon complicated matters in the elections of 1796 and 1800. In 1796, Federalist Party candidate John Adams won the presidential election; by finishing in second place, Democratic-Republican Party candidate Thomas Jefferson, the Federalists’ opponent, became the vice president. This resulted in the President and Vice President not being of the same political party.

In 1800, the Democratic-Republican Party again nominated Jefferson for president, and also nominated Aaron Burr for vice president. After the election, Jefferson and Burr both obtained a majority of electoral votes, but tied one another with 73 votes each. Since ballots did not distinguish between votes for president and votes for vice president, every ballot cast for Burr technically counted as a vote for him to become president, despite Jefferson clearly being his party’s first choice. Lacking a clear winner by constitutional standards, the election had to be decided by the House of Representatives pursuant to the Constitution’s contingency election provision.

Having already lost the presidential contest, Federalist Party representatives in the lame duck House session seized upon the opportunity to embarrass their opposition and attempted to elect Burr over Jefferson. The House deadlocked for 35 ballots as neither candidate received the necessary majority vote of the state delegations in the House (the votes of nine states were needed for an election). Jefferson achieved electoral victory on the 36th ballot, but only after Federalist Party leader Alexander Hamilton—who disfavored Burr’s personal character more than Jefferson’s policies—had made known his preference for Jefferson.

Responding to the problems from those elections, the Congress proposed the Twelfth Amendment in 1803—prescribing electors cast separate ballots for president and vice president—to replace the system outlined in Article II, Section 1, Clause 3. By June 1804, the states had ratified the amendment in time for the 1804 election

en.wikipedia.org

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:18:00pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

Is this stupid or really stupid?

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That’s all he’s got. His daughter. Who’s on his payroll.

It is rather sick.

Wow.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:18:07pm

re: #34 Aunty Entity Dragon

Really? They got that right? I don’t think I’ve ever seen that on film or TV. Might have to track down those sequences just for that even though I couldn’t care less about the show.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:18:40pm

Philadelphia: Cheri Honkala, the leader of the Poor People’s Economic Human Rights Campaign, announced that her group was organizing the world’s largest “fart-in” to be held on July 28 at the Wells Fargo Center during Hillary Clinton’s anticipated acceptance speech for the Democratic nomination.

“We will be holding a massive bean supper for Bernie Sanders delegates on American Street in my Kensington neighborhood on the afternoon of July 28,” she said. “We are setting up a Clintonville there, modeled on the Hoovervilles of the 1930s where the poor and unemployed built shanty towns. The Sanders delegates, their bellies full of beans, will be able to return to the Wells Fargo Center and greet the rhetorical flatulence of Hillary Clinton with the real thing.”

Honkala said she would issue an invitation to Sanders to join the bean supper, which she is calling Beans for Hillary. She has asked donors to send cans of beans to 1301-W Porter Street, Philadelphia, Pa., 19148.

“Any remaining beans will be served to the homeless, although we will, of course, be urging Sanders delegates to eat as much as possible,” Honkala said.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:18:59pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

That’s all he’s got. His daughter. Who’s on his payroll.

It is rather sick.

Wow.

Who he has admitted he wants to sleep with - presuming he hasn’t (ugh…).

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:19:32pm

re: #33 jaunte

This is such a bunch of DARVO victimhood bullshit.

It irritates the hell out of me. Even if it wasn’t so dishonest and deliberately deceptive, the idea of using a pseudo-scholarly interpretation of the Bible to determine what American laws should be is massively offensive.

This is just another reason why I don’t trust Glenn Kessler’s “fact-checking.” He’s clearly biased toward right wing sources.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:19:37pm

re: #31 Anymouse

My family fled Gdansk just before Hitler went to war with Poland. Fleeing fascists seems to be tradition in my family. /s

This is for you, then:

Gewehr 29/40 Mauser

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:19:48pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Bernie Bros have become so RWNJ.

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KGxvi  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:19:55pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

Both Boys’ Girlfriends got me presents for Fathers’ Day. Neither Boy did.

What’s wrong with this picture?

The girlfriends don’t know you well enough yet?

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:20:17pm

re: #16 The Vicious Babushka

NO, THIS IS THE STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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trump bot.

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gocart mozart  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:20:24pm

Norm Ornstein makes a funny.

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gocart mozart  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:22:47pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:23:37pm

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

Well who else would she learn empowerment from? Ivana? Whose hair was ripped out of her scalp before she was raped?

And got a face lift that made her unrecognizable. For donald.

These people are all of what’s wrong with society.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:25:11pm
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Great White Snark  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:25:27pm

Ethnic profile Con Man Donald. Angry White guy. Sociopaths personality. Egotistical. Defensive. Sounds like a potential mass shooter to me. Put him on the no fly list.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:26:23pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

Both Boys’ Girlfriends got me presents for Fathers’ Day. Neither Boy did.

What’s wrong with this picture?

The girls know manners. Your sons are following that age long tradition of let the women do it.

Talk to them. For real.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:27:33pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

The girls know manners. Your sons are following that age long tradition of let the women do it.

Talk to them. For real.

It’s not like the Boys got me presents for FD before they had girlfriends…

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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:28:07pm

re: #33 jaunte

This is such a bunch of DARVO victimhood bullshit.

Projection, always projection.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:29:51pm

re: #51 Great White Snark

Ethnic profile Con Man Donald. Angry White guy. Sociopaths personality. Egotistical. Defensive. Sounds like a potential mass shooter to me. Put him on the no fly list.

Not true, RWC. Only poor and middle-class people are sociopaths. Rich people are instead “driven to succeed”. Just ask their lawyers.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:31:48pm

To fellow Lizards who are fathers I hope all of you had a very happy Father’s Day. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:32:00pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Not true, RWC. Only poor and middle-class people are sociopaths. Rich people are instead “driven to succeed”. Just ask their lawyers.

Like the difference between “babbling on streetcorner crazy” and “a tad eccentric” is about $1Million.

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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:32:35pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

This is for you, then:

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I toured the Polish Post Office Museum in Gdansk (the original building is still there, and there is still a post office branch there). The weapons they used (basically rifles and grenades) are on display.

The postal workers fought off a division of the Wehrmacht, local Nazi formations, and even a frekin’ pocket battleship for the better part of a day.

Today the site has a memorial to the postal workers and others who stood their ground against overwhelming odds.

en.wikipedia.org
(history of the battle)

flickr.com
(our pictures of Germany and Poland, which include the Post Office today)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:32:43pm

re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s not like the Boys got me presents for FD before they had girlfriends…

I know. But now they get to receive the thanks. Because of ‘couple’ present.

If you have an opportunity, discuss this/my LGF conundrum with them.

Men often just slide. Dammit, my whole extended family is based on the women paying attention to the events. Always the women handling the shit.

Enough.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:33:23pm

HAHAHHAHAHAH….

Now I know what Luke Skywalker did between Rebellion missions… scope the SG player on the far right …

Heart - Crazy On You (live 1977)

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gocart mozart  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:34:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:35:40pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:35:47pm

re: #60 William Lewis

HAHAHHAHAHAH….

Now I know what Luke Skywalker did between Rebellion missions… scope the SG player on the far right …

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Video

I have no idea what you are talking about. But this video is GOLD

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:36:02pm

As a Doctor Who fan, I am getting really tired of the constant whining about Moffat. In my opinion, most of those who are complaining about Moffat and his “sexism” are the people who slept through half of the Intro to Feminism course during their freshman year of college.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:36:11pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

I know. But now they get to receive the thanks. Because of ‘couple’ present.

If you have an opportunity, discuss this/my LGF conundrum with them.

Men often just slide. Dammit, my whole extended family is based on the women paying attention to the events. Always the women handling the shit.

Enough.

The Boys were both honest about who the gifts were from, to their credit. And I made it clear on FB that the presents were from the GF’s, not the couples.

ETA: Because I think it’s important that the GF’s know that I know, that it was just them.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:37:50pm

re: #58 Anymouse

I toured the Polish Post Office Museum in Gdansk (the original building is still there, and there is still a post office branch there). The weapons they used (basically rifles and grenades) are on display.

The postal workers fought off a division of the Wehrmacht, local Nazi formations, and even a frekin’ pocket battleship for the better part of a day.

Today the site has a memorial to the postal workers and others who stood their ground against overwhelming odds.

en.wikipedia.org
(history of the battle)

flickr.com
(our pictures of Germany and Poland, which include the Post Office today)

Thank you for that. Only 1 minor quibble: Schleswig-Holstein was a pre-Dreadnought battleship, not a pocket battleship. She actually mounted two fewer 11-inch guns than did the pocket battleships.

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Joe Bacon  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:39:05pm
LORD HELP HIM OUT!
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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:40:57pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Correction noted. The ship still way outgunned the folk holding the harbour entrance and the post office.

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RinaX  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:41:11pm

I haven’t been all that into basketball since Jordan’s (first) retirement, but I found myself backing Cleveland in the finals this year, particularly when they got down 3-1 and fought back. Amazing, I didn’t think they could do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:42:27pm

Tonight in Lexington:

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:43:37pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

Ah, SG is the kind of guitar the Luke look alike is shredding. Good player, I hope he had a good long career in music.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:43:59pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:45:18pm

re: #69 RinaX

I haven’t been all that into basketball since Jordan’s (first) retirement, but I found myself backing Cleveland in the finals this year, particularly when they got down 3-1 and fought back. Amazing, I didn’t think they could do it.

Yeah! Way to go Cavs. Historic win for the city and one for the record books.

Great game too. Right down to the end.

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fern01  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:45:58pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

Responses to the 1st and second attack points:

2. Yes, Obama should have fought harder to keep a residual US force in Iraq. but that said,

President Obama was elected to get US forces out of Iraq, not to fight to keep them there

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:48:40pm

re: #68 Anymouse

The Poles did that alot in WWII.

It’s why I have no patience for the stupid Polish Jokes.

Along with the Battle of Wizna.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:49:10pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

If the Herald-Leader quoted Trump, it may be that the lies were so egregious that they lit both Trump’s pants and the newspaper on fire.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:52:09pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:52:23pm

re: #33 jaunte

This is such a bunch of DARVO victimhood bullshit.

This is Dreher’s entire schtick. The ghey sexy time mafia are persecuting his Bronze Age filosophee.

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lockjawcanbefun  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:53:26pm

re: #78 Aunty Entity Dragon

The Gay Mafia. They’ll make you an offer you can’t find FAB-U-LOUS!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:53:34pm
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TedStriker  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:54:35pm

re: #30 gocart mozart

Until Donald found out Cohn was dying of AIDS, then Donald airlocked Cohn’s ass.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:54:49pm

Cavs owner Dan Gilbert: “God loves Cleveland, Ohio.”

Wait until the RNC convention, and then we’ll see how much he/she/it loves Cleveland.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:54:56pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Thank you for that. Only 1 minor quibble: Schleswig-Holstein was a pre-Dreadnought battleship, not a pocket battleship. She actually mounted two fewer 11-inch guns than did the pocket battleships.

She had a shit-ton of close range 6.7 inch casemate guns to blast the harbor with. Anything less than a heavy cruise would be ill advised to tangle with her at the time, even if she was a pre-Dreadnought and badly outdated.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:55:08pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Arguably the Schleswig-Holstein was a real battleship (armor, powerplant, etc) unlike the Admiral Graf Spee (a Deutschland-class “Panzerschiff” armored ship aka heavy Cruiser) and, if well handled, could have handed Exeter, Ajax and Achilles their asses because much of the incoming fire that so damaged Spee would have bounced off. Her speed was inadequate for WWII but then given that she was a Pre-Dreadnaught, that’s not really a surprise. Still it’s one of my favorite “what ifs” in naval combat along with BB-64 crossing the T at the Battle of Surigao Strait.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:57:25pm

re: #84 William Lewis

Arguably the Schleswig-Holstein was a real battleship (armor, powerplant, etc) unlike the Admiral Graf Spee (a Deutschland-class “Panzerschiff” armored ship aka heavy Cruiser) and, if well handled, could have handed Exeter, Ajax and Achilles their asses because much of the incoming fire that so damaged Spee would have bounced off. Her speed was inadequate for WWII but then given that she was a Pre-Dreadnaught, that’s not really a surprise. Still it’s one of my favorite “what ifs” in naval combat along with BB-64 crossing the T at the Battle of Surigao Strait.

Her speed was okay for Baltic conditions. If used in a squadron with her surviving 2 sisters the way the Swedes used their coastal battleships, even modern warships would have had a real fight on their hands.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:57:31pm

Don’t light the lake on fire tonight, Cleveland.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 7:59:23pm

re: #86 Aunty Entity Dragon

Her speed was okay for Baltic conditions. If used in a squadron with her surviving 2 sisters the way the Swedes used their coastal battleships, even modern warships would have had a real fight on their hands.

Good point.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:00:26pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:03:08pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

Both Boys’ Girlfriends got me presents for Fathers’ Day. Neither Boy did.

What’s wrong with this picture?

I just posted this to my FB page/timeline/whatever:

I’m proud of my sons. Every year they take a bold and principled stand against the crass commercialism of Fathers Day by not even mentioning it. And my wife? “You’re not my father, and anyway it’s my birthday month.”

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:03:17pm

Westerplatte is the battle Schleswig-Holstein is best known for, but I think her most consequential role was about 100 years ago, at Jutland. She and her sisters engaged the British Battlecruiser Force at a key moment, saving the German BC from being annihilated.

Had the Deutschland-class not turned up when they did, Adm. Beatty might well have been able to complete the destruction of his German opposite numbers (though Hipper, on a destroyer at that moment, would have survived). And had the remaining 4 German BCs been lost, then Jutland would be remembered as a British triumph. But the Deutschlands, including Schleswig-Holstein, were there and were able to cover the withdrawal of Hipper’s mostly crippled BCs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:04:01pm

Gunfuckers who like to co-opt The Holocaust are just garbage people.

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ObserverArt  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:04:17pm

re: #89 The Vicious Babushka

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Stan’s twitter wallpaper is fun. Obama is a sleeper cell for Radical Islam.
Ooooooo…scared.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:04:57pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY (The hits keep on coming)

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Extrapolating to America today: I wonder who the Jews would be….

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:05:26pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:05:48pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Westerplatte is the battle Schleswig-Holstein is best known for, but I think her most consequential role was about 100 years ago, at Jutland. She and her sisters engaged the British Battlecruiser Force at a key moment, saving the German BC from being annihilated.

Had the Deutschland-class not turned up when they did, Adm. Beatty might well have been able to complete the destruction of his German opposite numbers (though Hipper, on a destroyer at that moment, would have survived). And had the remaining 4 German BCs been lost, then Jutland would be remembered as a British triumph. But the Deutschlands, including Schleswig-Holstein, were there and were able to cover the withdrawal of Hipper’s mostly crippled BCs.

I am constantly annoyed by British crowing over their “strategic victory” at Jutland. All they got was 3 of their own battlecruisers blown out of the water and a resumption of a stand-off with the High Seas Fleet.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:05:50pm

re: #89 The Vicious Babushka

your as Stupid as your response!

Classic.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:06:27pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Westerplatte is the battle Schleswig-Holstein is best known for, but I think her most consequential role was about 100 years ago, at Jutland. She and her sisters engaged the British Battlecruiser Force at a key moment, saving the German BC from being annihilated.

Had the Deutschland-class not turned up when they did, Adm. Beatty might well have been able to complete the destruction of his German opposite numbers (though Hipper, on a destroyer at that moment, would have survived). And had the remaining 4 German BCs been lost, then Jutland would be remembered as a British triumph. But the Deutschlands, including Schleswig-Holstein, were there and were able to cover the withdrawal of Hipper’s mostly crippled BCs.

Jutland was a British Triumph. The High Seas Fleet never sortied again. Yes, they screwed up when they used the BC’s as ersatz BB’s but those losses were not in vain because they kept the enemy bottled up.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:06:38pm

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:08:56pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY (The hits keep on coming)

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puke

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:09:01pm

re: #97 jaunte

Classic.

Inorite!

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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:09:30pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

Stan Smith is an idiot, and you can tell him I said so.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:09:41pm

re: #96 Aunty Entity Dragon

We apparently disagree :D

Making the Kaiser too scared to lose his ships was a real victory for men like Major Francis John William Harvey, VC of HMS Lion.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:09:49pm

re: #96 Aunty Entity Dragon

re: #98 William Lewis

Two opposite points of view, both from learned and sane people. Proof that disagreement does not have to lead to DERP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:09:54pm

re: #102 Anymouse

Stan Smith is an idiot, and you can tell him I said so.

I already blocked it.

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MsJ  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:10:32pm

re: #60 William Lewis

HAHAHHAHAHAH….

Now I know what Luke Skywalker did between Rebellion missions… scope the SG player on the far right …

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God I love that song. Takes me right back my yoot.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:11:22pm

re: #98 William Lewis

Jutland was a British Triumph. The High Seas Fleet never sortied again. Yes, they screwed up when they used the BC’s as ersatz BB’s but those losses were not in vain because they kept the enemy bottled up.

They didn’t really keep the High Seas Fleet from anything. The High Seas Fleet could have gone back to sea to engage anytime. Simply, the ground war was more important and everything was going to hinge on that rather then the Germans risking an all or nothing replay of Tsushima. You could just as well argue that Brits were wasting resources on a blockade while they damned near lost the whole affair in the German 1918 offensive (and without us….they would have assuredly lost).

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:12:16pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY (The hits keep on coming)

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Of course the SS also had light tanks, armored cars, and half-track APCs, plus artillery, mortars, flame-throwers, etc. But rifles alone could have stopped them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:12:52pm

Why do I think “Stan Smith” would have no problem confiscating guns from American Muslims and then rounding them up?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:13:50pm

re: #103 William Lewis

We apparently disagree :D

Making the Kaiser too scared to lose his ships was a real victory for men like Major Francis John William Harvey, VC of HMS Lion.

The Kaiser was putting everything into the ground war. That was were the war was going to be won or lost. Stalemate means you are wasting resources and the Brits almost lost their asses in 1918 while they were busy with their stalemate.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:15:29pm

re: #106 MsJ

God I love that song. Takes me right back my yoot.

Our yoot was amazing. I’m currently trolling Youtube for all the songs.

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Lidane  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:16:01pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:16:06pm

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

Two opposite points of view, both from learned and sane people. Proof that disagreement does not have to lead to DERP.

Huzzah for LGF and history nerds!

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:18:27pm

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

Why do I think “Stan Smith” would have no problem confiscating guns from American Muslims and then rounding them up?

Because he retweeted this drek:

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:19:15pm

re: #110 Aunty Entity Dragon

They knew they finally had that idiot Wilson buffaloed. Lots of bodies, lots of ammo & even more weapons. Not to mention “Cowboys” with M1911s & M1917s that scared the piss out of anything other than the Sturmtruppen. Makes all the difference in the world even if they lost the fight to have our troops simply fill in as replacements for them.

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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:19:28pm

Ugh! Needs hiding!

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Joe Bacon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:20:25pm

Milo blocked me! 😂😂😂😂😂

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Joe Bacon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:22:21pm
No caption needed…
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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:22:48pm

I’m upgrading to Windows 10 now. Wish me luck, and I’ll try to come back here when the upgrade is done.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:23:31pm

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

Two opposite points of view, both from learned and sane people. Proof that disagreement does not have to lead to DERP.

My former history dept mentor from Guilford College was over for dinner and movie at our house last night, and she surprised me for a moment when she told me I needed to be out teaching history (I was in the middle of showing her how a Minie’ rifle ball works differently from the older round flintlock rifle balls as we were talking at the table after dinner…complete with an actual Minie’ ball and comedic examples of trying to load the Revolutionary Type rifle.)

History nerds rule.

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Viscous Obama  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:23:49pm

The video ad keeps kicking me back to the back of top the page, it’s impossible to type long sentences on a Mac.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:24:17pm

re: #96 Aunty Entity Dragon

I am constantly annoyed by British crowing over their “strategic victory” at Jutland. All they got was 3 of their own battlecruisers blown out of the water and a resumption of a stand-off with the High Seas Fleet.

Just one last thought - a bottled up fleet can not play merchant raider against the convoys. The lack of any real response by the High Seas Fleet for 2 long years fed straight into the starvation of the German population. They never had the resources - Act one or Act two of the World War - to win against more than one relatively weak opponent.

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Jay C  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:25:42pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

I’m upgrading to Windows 10 now. Wish me luck, and I’ll try to come back here when the upgrade is done.

You’re doing this voluntarily? I got “upgraded” after logging off one day a couple of weeks ago, and my first call was to my PC tech - who was fortunately able to restore Win7 without too much trouble.
Her comment: wait at least a year til MS debug W10 - which requires a lot of faith that they even CAN…..

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calochortus  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:25:45pm

re: #90 Barefoot Grin

I just posted this to my FB page/timeline/whatever:

I’m proud of my sons. Every year they take a bold and principled stand against the crass commercialism of Fathers Day by not even mentioning it. And my wife? “You’re not my father, and anyway it’s my birthday month.”

We have never encouraged Mothers’/Fathers’ Day gifts around here. A hug or a phone call are all we need. :)

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:26:52pm

re: #75 Ziggy_TARDIS

The Poles did that alot in WWII.

It’s why I have no patience for the stupid Polish Jokes.

Along with the Battle of Wizna.

Understood.

I have no patience for French Surrender Monkey jokes. Why? As I said last night …

Class of 1914.
Class of 1915.
Class of 1916.

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Joe Bacon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:27:34pm

830 is coming up here in Los Angeles It’s still 89 outside. 95 in my kitchen and 86 in my main room. I set the air conditioner in my main room to 84. The compressor hasn’t stopped running for the past 12 hours…

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:27:38pm

Probably a girl like.

This song! I have always been a melody person.

The Outfield - All The Love In The World

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:28:56pm

re: #115 William Lewis

They knew they finally had that idiot Wilson buffaloed. Lots of bodies, lots of ammo & even more weapons. Not to mention “Cowboys” with M1911s & M1917s that scared the piss out of anything other than the Sturmtruppen. Makes all the difference in the world even if they lost the fight to have our troops simply fill in as replacements for them.

Wilson was a back stabbing, politicking little toady. I doubt many tears were shed in Whitehall when the IRA came to collect him on his doorstep in 1922.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:29:00pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

I’m upgrading to Windows 10 now. Wish me luck, and I’ll try to come back here when the upgrade is done.

It’s not as bad as some Windog upgrades but I’ll light a candle for you anyway … ///////

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:31:37pm

re: #122 William Lewis

Just one last thought - a bottled up fleet can not play merchant raider against the convoys. The lack of any real response by the High Seas Fleet for 2 long years fed straight into the starvation of the German population. They never had the resources - Act one or Act two of the World War - to win against more than one relatively weak opponent.

It can not go commerce raiding to be sure (although the Germans did rather a lot of that anyway), but a Fleet in Being still ties up enemy resources that could be better spent elsewhere while you spend rather less….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:33:27pm

THIS IS A IDIOT==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:33:57pm

Um, like not killed Osama Bin Laden?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:34:52pm

Twitter Block Chain is getting a workout tonight.

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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:35:55pm

Holy crap, that article over at Truthdig on the woman who wants to bring a flatulence protest to the Democratic Convention is filling rapidly with derp and moonbattery.

I can’t fight it off all by myself on Disqus.

truthdig.com

My comments are the sane ones (injuring shoulder patting self on back), with the same avatar I use here.

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Joe Bacon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:37:04pm

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS A IDIOT==>

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Amazing how all these Trumpettes can’t spell worth doodly-squat!

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Joe Bacon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:38:20pm

re: #134 Anymouse

Holy crap, that article over at Truthdig on the woman who wants to bring a flatulence protest to the Democratic Convention is filling rapidly with derp and moonbattery.

I can’t fight it off all by myself on Disqus.

truthdig.com

My comments are the sane ones (injuring shoulder patting self on back), with the same avatar I use here.

This dirty trick has Roger Stone’s fingerprints all over it!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:38:26pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

STOOOP!!

I repeat a post from a couple threads ago about Windows 10:

Does your computer work now?

If YES, what the fuck is wrong with you?

If NO, Windows 10 ain’t gonna fix it.

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calochortus  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:40:46pm

re: #126 Joe Bacon

830 is coming up here in Los Angeles It’s still 89 outside. 95 in my kitchen and 86 in my main room. I set the air conditioner in my main room to 84. The compressor hasn’t stopped running for the past 12 hours…

My condolences.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:40:48pm

re: #125 William Lewis

Yeah, France practically lost an entire generation of men. It is no wonder why they hard such a hard time fighting in WWII. France was exhausted.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:41:13pm

re: #125 William Lewis

Understood.

I have no patience for French Surrender Monkey jokes. Why? As I said last night …

Class of 1914.
Class of 1915.
Class of 1916.

All those armchair historians who blame appeasement for the high cost of the war ignore real history like you are referring to.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:41:28pm

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

He looks Serbian….

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:42:53pm

re: #137 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Depends on the version on your PC.

If Vista? God, yes, instantly.
If 7, maybe but be careful if things work alright.
If 8 or 8.1? Even F***ing faster than for Vista.

It’s no panacea, but it really is better than many of the craptacular versions they’ve put out over recent years.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:43:00pm

re: #139 Ziggy_TARDIS

The biggest problem the French had in 1940 was their leadership. Germany was outnumbered and outclassed in almost every category but the French leadership panicked.

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Lidane  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:43:29pm

Unfair, but still funny:

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:44:07pm

re: #142 William Lewis

My Vista works just fine, thank you very much.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:44:33pm

re: #143 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

France had been dealing with an infestation of Fascism themselves. Some of the leadership was sympathetic to the Fascists.

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Great White Snark  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:44:39pm

Well crap. A/C quit Friday, guy finally came by today, old unit is DOA new unit Wednesday… It is 97 in here. Thank goodness the PC is water cooled. But how to sleep? Can’t curl up in the fridge.

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MsJ  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:45:22pm

For whatever it’s worth, I’ve upgraded to Win10 twice, never had an issue and I love it. It’s as good, if not better, than Win7 - which I never thought I’d give up. Win 10 is great.

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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:45:44pm

re: #136 Joe Bacon

Well, I don’t know, based on who is doing it. I can’t see Roger Stone working with a poor people economic rights campaign.

It is just juvenile. It does nothing to help advance any of the ideas that she says she supports that Mr. Sanders advanced. It is a tantrum, which will do nothing to sway any politician other than convince them his supporters are lunatics.

And in reality, the overwhelming majority of his supporters are not lunatics. There are a couple loudmouths and a few rodent copulators, but people like this woman do nothing to advance the issues.

Back in the Sixties, people put their lives on the line in protest (Kent State, &c). Today it’s “I regret I only have one fart to give.”

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ObserverArt  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:45:47pm

re: #144 Lidane

Unfair, but still funny:

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Leave Kevin Love Alone!

He’s making a lot of money…

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:46:09pm

re: #145 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

My Vista works just fine, thank you very much.

You, literally (with full knowledge of the meaning of that word), are the only person who has ever told me that. I hope it continues to work well for you.

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Lidane  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:47:35pm

“Self-funding”, y’all:

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Lidane  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:48:25pm

re: #150 ObserverArt

Leave Kevin Love Alone!

He’s making a lot of money…

Plus he’s in my favorite series of commercials. Hah.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:49:16pm

re: #121 Viscous Obama

Unfortunately I can’t easily track down these ads because they’re not shown to everyone; they randomly appear on just one visitor’s page every once in a while. I’m reporting them whenever I can find a likely suspect, though. Sorry for the inconvenience; this is driving me nuts too, to be unable to easily block them.

I’m using reputable ad networks, too, but still some advertisers manage to sneak this garbage in.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:50:18pm

re: #151 William Lewis

I still use Works for just about everything. I can copy and paste Word processor and spreadsheets to Word and Excel, but almost everything important is in the database application, and I’m at a loss how to convert it to Access. I have an idea but I don’t know if it will work, and some of these databases have 160+ fields and 16K+ lines. (They’ve been accumulating since 1997.)

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:53:00pm

re: #143 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

The biggest problem the French had in 1940 was their leadership. Germany was outnumbered and outclassed in almost every category but the French leadership panicked.

Outnumbered…yes. Allies had better equipment…yes.

The Germans had an actual doctrine to use their stuff, however.

That is why you saw crappy little pzkwII tanks beating the shit out of French infantry formations who never bothered to put their excellent Char B tanks into independent units where they may have done real damage.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:53:42pm

re: #121 Viscous Obama

The video ad keeps kicking me back to the back of top the page, it’s impossible to type long sentences on a Mac.

I had that happen to me last week.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:54:06pm

MIL and her friend were watching Donald Trump stuff on tv earlier tonight. I hear him bitching about “We’re giving our country away” or some such and they’re nodding and saying how right he is. Does it ever occur to anybody to ask what the hell “We’re giving our country away” actually means? I think it’s completely meaningless.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:57:49pm

re: #155 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I still use Works for just about everything. I can copy and paste Word processor and spreadsheets to Word and Excel, but almost everything important is in the database application, and I’m at a loss how to convert it to Access. I have an idea but I don’t know if it will work, and some of these databpases have 160+ fields and 16K+ lines. (They’ve been accumulating since 1997.)

Oy!!!!

Stop. Do not pass go. You need, I say again - NEED - SQL Server and as a MS hater I don’t say that lightly. Access will crash hourly under that load. Find a SQL Server consultant and be prepared to open your wallet unless your data is meaningless.

Seriously. I know one good person who might give a better rate than some because of me but it still won’t be cheap. If you want to know more my nic is blue.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 8:59:24pm

re: #156 Aunty Entity Dragon

Outnumbered…yes. Allies had better equipment…yes.

The Germans had an actual doctrine to use their stuff, however.

That is why you saw crappy little pzkwII tanks beating the shit out of French infantry formations who never bothered to put their excellent Char B tanks into independent units where they may have done real damage.

Well. Depends. Look at Battle of Arras (1940) when they had to flip the 8.8 cm Flak guns down to stop the Matilda II’s of all things…

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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:01:18pm

re: #159 William Lewis

Oy!!!!

Stop. Do not pass go. You need, I say again - NEED - SQL Server and as a MS hater I don’t say that lightly. Access will crash hourly under that load. Find a SQL Server consultant and be prepared to open your wallet unless your data is meaningless.

Seriously. I know one good person who might give a better rate than some because of me but it still won’t be cheap. If you want to know more my nic is blue.

Oy here, too. I am forced to use Access Runtime for several software programs that don’t come any other way, and I hate it like poison ivy!

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Joe Bacon  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:01:54pm
Tomorrow’s NY Daily News Front Page
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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:02:22pm

I am being swamped on both sides now at Truthdig: from moonbat Sanders supporters (or rodent copulators) and Trump supporters.

If I drown in the derp, ship me to the coast and have me buried at sea.

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Kragar  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:05:15pm
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plansbandc  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:05:38pm

The ad that’s ruining my ability to browse this thread is a little red block ad for NBA store.com

Drags me down to the bottom of the page and won’t let me navigate away.

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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:05:47pm

re: #163 Anymouse

We salute you for the good fight.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:05:52pm

re: #159 William Lewis

You misunderestimate my stubbornness. I have four laptops that have never been used standing by to replace the ones that age out. I figure I should be able to make it to retirement age and then some before I run out of Vista platforms.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:08:06pm

re: #167 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I also have a tiny little Acer thing that’s sort of a desktop but it’s only about the size of a Big Mac and runs XP.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:11:37pm

re: #167 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

You misunderestimate my stubbornness. I have four laptops that have never been used standing by to replace the ones that age out. I figure I should be able to make it to retirement age and then some before I run out of Vista platforms.

Heh. Sounds like me as staying with Unix. I had a copy of Minix long before Mr. Torvalds was known for his kernel inspired by it and worked on production level versions (SCO, Sun, DG, DEC, etc) far before being forced to deal with the utter garbage from Redmond. I will never be in situation where I only can rely on MS. I will walk away from computers first and never, ever, look back.

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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:11:41pm

The derp is deep over at Truthdig:

The Federal Farmer • 23 minutes ago

If you know the game is rigged, why do you insist on playing it?
We all knew from the beginning that it would be Trump & Hillary in the [fake] running. And as we’ve seen with other elections, it doesn’t matter who the people vote for for president.

James • 17 minutes ago

The game was not rigged, no matter how anyone tries to spin it that way. And if you truly don’t think voting matters, hail your new fascist leader.

How would you “unrig” the primary process? Political parties are private clubs. Primaries are a recent invention; in the past, party leaders simply selected candidates themselves with no input from voters.

If you think there could be a better system, then work to change the system. Run for office. Become a delegate. Something. Because for darn sure the GOP will drag itself over hot coals to nominate a theocrat of a fascist at the drop of a hat.

The Democratic Primary is not rigged; Senator Sanders knew the rules when he threw his hat in the ring. The time for him to do it would have been right after President Obama was reëlected, to gain recognition and build a ground game. He did not do that, and though there was quite an effort from supporters (including me) to bring him to the fore, that effort failed.

That is how the system works. That said, Clinton is miles better than Trump (or if they depose him, worse, Cruz). I don’t want a fascist or a theocrat in power. I will work within my party to try and ensure that does not happen.

The Federal Farmer James • 11 minutes ago

You didn’t read the article. That’s what I was commenting on.
Yes, I think there could be freedom in this land, but working within your system isn’t the answer, that simply perpetuates it, which of course is the statist goal.

The only way to have freedom in America is to stop acting like a subject. Begging your masters for a little liberty has never worked.

James • 4 minutes ago

Are you suggesting armed revolution then? Because that’s what “not working within the system” entails. Worked well for the Confederacy, and for the Talibango in Nevada and Oregon.

I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution. That’s the system. Got a different one?

And yes, I read the article. And am commenting elsewhere how silly this whole exercise is.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:11:43pm

Heck, I won’t have to encrypt my shit. Eventually I’ll be the only one left with a working copy of Works and nobody else will even be able to open my files.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:12:27pm

re: #168 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I also have a tiny little Acer thing that’s sort of a desktop but it’s only about the size of a Big Mac and runs XP.

XP, for all it’s security flaws, is actually much more stable than Vista, IME.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:14:19pm

re: #160 William Lewis

Well. Depends. Look at Battle of Arras (1940) when they had to flip the 8.8 cm Flak guns down to stop the Matilda II’s of all things…

A half-hearted effort that was forced to run awa before nightfall to avoid being encircled. It was almost like the interminable years of WW 1 where the Allies attack…then the Germans put pressure on one flank and everybody runs away.

Also, the Matilda II was an outdated concept the moment it was even put into production.

An “Infantry Tank”???? Really? So damned slow that all it could do was stick around with infantry (9 miles an hour cross country!)and a gun that was next to useless within a year of the start of war. yeah…it did have armor.

Even with those problems, it still could have made a real difference if it had been allowed to function with other tanks instead of being distributed piece-meal to infantry outfits. A slow, under armed tank, no matter how good the armor is, will still die horribly if it is not supported.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:15:18pm

re: #170 Anymouse

The derp is deep over at Truthdig:

The Federal Farmer • 23 minutes ago

If you know the game is rigged, why do you insist on playing it?
We all knew from the beginning that it would be Trump & Hillary in the [fake] running. And as we’ve seen with other elections, it doesn’t matter who the people vote for for president.

James • 17 minutes ago

The game was not rigged, no matter how anyone tries to spin it that way. And if you truly don’t think voting matters, hail your new fascist leader.

How would you “unrig” the primary process? Political parties are private clubs. Primaries are a recent invention; in the past, party leaders simply selected candidates themselves with no input from voters.

If you think there could be a better system, then work to change the system. Run for office. Become a delegate. Something. Because for darn sure the GOP will drag itself over hot coals to nominate a theocrat of a fascist at the drop of a hat.

The Democratic Primary is not rigged; Senator Sanders knew the rules when he threw his hat in the ring. The time for him to do it would have been right after President Obama was reëlected, to gain recognition and build a ground game. He did not do that, and though there was quite an effort from supporters (including me) to bring him to the fore, that effort failed.

That is how the system works. That said, Clinton is miles better than Trump (or if they depose him, worse, Cruz). I don’t want a fascist or a theocrat in power. I will work within my party to try and ensure that does not happen.

The Federal Farmer James • 11 minutes ago

You didn’t read the article. That’s what I was commenting on.
Yes, I think there could be freedom in this land, but working within your system isn’t the answer, that simply perpetuates it, which of course is the statist goal.

The only way to have freedom in America is to stop acting like a subject. Begging your masters for a little liberty has never worked.

James • 4 minutes ago

Are you suggesting armed revolution then? Because that’s what “not working within the system” entails. Worked well for the Confederacy, and for the Talibango in Nevada and Oregon.

I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution. That’s the system. Got a different one?

And yes, I read the article. And am commenting elsewhere how silly this whole exercise is.

I made the same oath and was, happily, the token leftist in many units of this nation’s army. That little poltroon can kiss my fat white ass.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:15:57pm

re: #142 William Lewis

Depends on the version on your PC.

If Vista? God, yes, instantly.
If 7, maybe but be careful if things work alright.
If 8 or 8.1? Even F***ing faster than for Vista.

It’s no panacea, but it really is better than many of the craptacular versions they’ve put out over recent years.

My new laptop came with 8.1. I upgraded right away to 10, and I have few complaints.

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gwangung  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:16:50pm

re: #170 Anymouse

The derp is deep over at Truthdig:

The Federal Farmer • 23 minutes ago

If you know the game is rigged, why do you insist on playing it?
We all knew from the beginning that it would be Trump & Hillary in the [fake] running. And as we’ve seen with other elections, it doesn’t matter who the people vote for for president.

James • 17 minutes ago

The game was not rigged, no matter how anyone tries to spin it that way. And if you truly don’t think voting matters, hail your new fascist leader.

How would you “unrig” the primary process? Political parties are private clubs. Primaries are a recent invention; in the past, party leaders simply selected candidates themselves with no input from voters.

If you think there could be a better system, then work to change the system. Run for office. Become a delegate. Something. Because for darn sure the GOP will drag itself over hot coals to nominate a theocrat of a fascist at the drop of a hat.

The Democratic Primary is not rigged; Senator Sanders knew the rules when he threw his hat in the ring. The time for him to do it would have been right after President Obama was reëlected, to gain recognition and build a ground game. He did not do that, and though there was quite an effort from supporters (including me) to bring him to the fore, that effort failed.

That is how the system works. That said, Clinton is miles better than Trump (or if they depose him, worse, Cruz). I don’t want a fascist or a theocrat in power. I will work within my party to try and ensure that does not happen.

The Federal Farmer James • 11 minutes ago

You didn’t read the article. That’s what I was commenting on.
Yes, I think there could be freedom in this land, but working within your system isn’t the answer, that simply perpetuates it, which of course is the statist goal.

The only way to have freedom in America is to stop acting like a subject. Begging your masters for a little liberty has never worked.

James • 4 minutes ago

Are you suggesting armed revolution then? Because that’s what “not working within the system” entails. Worked well for the Confederacy, and for the Talibango in Nevada and Oregon.

I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution. That’s the system. Got a different one?

And yes, I read the article. And am commenting elsewhere how silly this whole exercise is.

These folks DO realize you have to apply ANY solution to both parties at the same time, right?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:17:38pm

re: #172 William Lewis

It also came with lots of free stuff. The fax was invaluable because I only had to print a fraction of what came in. Saved a shitload on ink and toner. Not only that, the .tif files were small (<20k) and easy to write on than if I printed them and scanned them. (500k at least)

BTW, the Vista machines still have phone jacks on them. My newer ones don’t, and I would have had to get a USB-fax cable and then download a fax program.

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Lidane  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:18:10pm

re: #170 Anymouse

If the game was rigged, Jeb! would’ve been the Republican nominee, since he was the guy with the name, the massive war chest, and the mile long list of establishment endorsements.

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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:19:56pm

re: #176 gwangung

No they don’t apparently.

More derp, from a Trump supporter:

Box • 12 minutes ago

Seriously, Hillary doesnt deserve the vote, she has done nothing to warrant it. Scandals have followed her for 40 years and she represents the corporate elite far more than Trump. Im not a Trump supporter but believe if anyone is maverick enough to break the rice bowls of the elite, its him. Remember that Trump only represents himself, he has no personal record of doing anything to help big business whereas the Clintons, both, have done nothing except bolster them both in the US and abroad. Truth is that this is the worst field of candidates ever in history and nobody who IS good even wants the job. Still, overall, its not a hard decision. It has to be Trump, whether i like it or dont like it.

James • a few seconds ago

Try again. What scandals besides the derp the Republican Party has spent millions of your tax dollars trying to spread?

And it’s Donald Trump that claims to be the billionaire, not Hillary Clinton. He does have a personal record of helping big business: His big business. How the heck do you bankrupt a casino? The man has gone bankrupt four times.

Trump is a fascist. My family fought and died fighting fascism. Others were killed unable to escape Poland from fascists. I will do everything in my power to prevent Trump’s perverted idea of our nation from coming to fruition: He is not even running against Hillary Clinton, he is running against the Constitution.

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MsJ  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:20:07pm

re: #177 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

It also came with lots of free stuff. The fax was invaluable because I only had to print a fraction of what came in. Saved a shitload on ink and toner. Not only that, the .tif files were small (<20k) and easy to write on than if I printed them and scanned them. (500k at least)

BTW, the Vista machines still have phone jacks on them. My newer ones don’t, and I would have had to get a USB-fax cable and then download a fax program.

Or get myfax.com. Runs through any browser. That’s my fax machine.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:20:37pm

re: #159 William Lewis

Oy!!!!

Stop. Do not pass go. You need, I say again - NEED - SQL Server and as a MS hater I don’t say that lightly. Access will crash hourly under that load. Find a SQL Server consultant and be prepared to open your wallet unless your data is meaningless.

Seriously. I know one good person who might give a better rate than some because of me but it still won’t be cheap. If you want to know more my nic is blue.

If Steve is comfortable with Linux, he could use MySQL, but probably would still have to pay someone to port the Works db file to MySQL.

I’m not sure anyone could pay me enough to it, even if I knew how.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:22:13pm

re: #165 plansbandc

The ad that’s ruining my ability to browse this thread is a little red block ad for NBA store.com

Drags me down to the bottom of the page and won’t let me navigate away.

OK, I turned off that ad again. That’s coming from Amazon CPM, and I’ve reported it to them.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:24:26pm

re: #179 Anymouse

Amen.

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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:25:55pm

re: #172 William Lewis

XP, for all it’s security flaws, is actually much more stable than Vista, IME.

I went from XP to 7.1, in Parallels on my Mac, and I’m sure not moving until I have to walk over hot coals. Things are bad enough now!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:28:14pm

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:28:53pm

re: #178 Lidane

If the game was rigged, Jeb! would’ve been the Republican nominee, since he was the guy with the name, the massive war chest, and the mile long list of establishment endorsements.

If the game was rigged, Hillary would have won in 2008.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:29:04pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

Charles, I am currently running an ad blocker on my desktop because when I don’t I get massive amounts of crashes. Does a Flash blocker help? I’d subscribe but I just don’t have the money to do so on my nearly minimum wage full time night shift job. I do leave ads up on my mobiles but this is where I do most of my browsing and I hate to leave you without the income but I need to be able to actually read the content too.

Thoughts?

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gwangung  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:30:43pm

re: #186 retired cynic

If the game was rigged, Hillary would have won in 2008.

Obama showed how to beat the favorite. A smart man could have followed him and done it.

Sanders is not a smart man (we can spend pages detailing his strategic and tactical blunders—-which, I must point out, are not political blunders).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:34:09pm

re: #186 retired cynic

If the game was rigged, Hillary would have won in 2008.

The noise I get from Bernie-bots in my social media is all about HRC accepting kickbacks from corporations, and suggesting the corps helped rig the primaries.

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gwangung  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:35:06pm

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The noise I get from Bernie-bots in my social media is all about HRC accepting kickbacks from corporations, and suggesting the corps helped rig the primaries.

If she did, she was way better than it than Sanders, whose graft for his daughter was all out in the open.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:35:42pm

re: #187 William Lewis

Charles, I am currently running an ad blocker on my desktop because when I don’t I get massive amounts of crashes. Does a Flash blocker help? I’d subscribe but I just don’t have the money to do so on my nearly minimum wage full time night shift job. I do leave ads up on my mobiles but this is where I do most of my browsing and I hate to leave you without the income but I need to be able to actually read the content too.

Thoughts?

Run a Flash blocker, for sure.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:36:39pm

re: #186 retired cynic

If the game was rigged, Hillary would have won in 2008.

Ohh… I just mic dropped that at my favorite site that is infested by berniebros.

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Anymouse  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:39:00pm

Well, I gotta go. My brain hurts from that Truthdig article.

The commentary over there seems to have stopped. (What a Dumpster fire.)

My head hurts. It needs copious amounts of booze.

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Scout  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:39:13pm

My apologies if this has been linked here before.

Submitted for your approval: What would happen if your dog called 911.

cheezburger.com

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:40:35pm

re: #193 Anymouse

Well, I gotta go. My brain hurts from that Truthdig article.

The commentary over there seems to have stopped. (What a Dumpster fire.)

My head hurts. It needs copious amounts of booze.

I got a bottle of nice rum from my father’s last trip to the caribbean if you want a mojito.

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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:41:13pm

re: #193 Anymouse

Well, I gotta go. My brain hurts from that Truthdig article.

The commentary over there seems to have stopped. (What a Dumpster fire.)

My head hurts. It needs copious amounts of booze.

I’m working on some Jack, just from reading it.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 9:42:31pm

re: #191 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Run a Flash blocker, for sure.

Ok, giving it a try.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:01:39pm

re: #129 William Lewis

It’s not as bad as some Windog upgrades but I’ll light a candle for you anyway … ///////

Well, I’m back. So far, so good.

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:07:17pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

I actually think Win10 is a good and fairly stable OS. I upgraded about two weeks ago on my desktop. I’m actually pleased, so far.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:09:51pm

re: #199 teleskiguy

I actually think Win10 is a good and fairly stable OS. I upgraded about two weeks ago on my desktop. I’m actually pleased, so far.

I’d say there are huge numbers of flaws. It’s just that even that number is far smaller than what we’re used to dealing with from Microshaft.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:10:39pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

Well, I’m back. So far, so good.

re: #199 teleskiguy

I actually think Win10 is a good and fairly stable OS. I upgraded about two weeks ago on my desktop. I’m actually pleased, so far.

Heathens!

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darthstar  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:12:15pm

re: #199 teleskiguy

I actually think Win10 is a good and fairly stable OS. I upgraded about two weeks ago on my desktop. I’m actually pleased, so far.

First thing I do with Windows boxes is install Ubuntu and give it about 60% of the hard drive (most of my work is stored on Google or Box or Bitbucket anyway). I then boot to Windows only when I need a Windows only app.

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:15:48pm

re: #199 teleskiguy

Upgrades and patches are uploaded about eight times a week, or whatever, and that’s done automatically. I don’t like it but I let Microsoft tweak with the OS (I never send error reports because fuck ‘em) and we’re over two weeks in and, well, things work.

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darthstar  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:21:06pm

So, I crawled under my house today and reconnected the cables I cut yesterday. Allowed me to watch the Warriors lose to the Cavs and make sportstalk regarding Basketball unbearable for the next two years.

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:21:48pm

It’s the first time I’ve retweeted myself. Apparently you can do than now.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:26:28pm

re: #199 teleskiguy

I actually think Win10 is a good and fairly stable OS. I upgraded about two weeks ago on my desktop. I’m actually pleased, so far.

It worked well for me at work, so it was time to upgrade.

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:28:51pm

Ah, my favorite Madonna track. Just ran into it again…

Madonna - What It Feels Like For A Girl

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:30:27pm

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

It worked well for me at work, so it was time to upgrade.

Seriously, I’ll hope it works well for you. If you become one of my few that I know it worked perfectly, so much the better. Good luck sir.

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KGxvi  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:32:08pm

re: #34 Aunty Entity Dragon

Just finished watching GoT

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The tracking shot on Jon Snow was simply fucking beautiful. It deserves an Emmy and an Oscar and all the other awards

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:33:42pm

It’s great seeing pics of people’s Dads with them at an early age, but for my Fathers’ Day pic, I wanted to share one of my Dad before he was a Dad. Here he is, about 23 years old, in 1941. This was taken a the CPS camp at Patapsco, MD. Dad was and is a Pacifist, and did CPS through WWII.

In a later assignment, he and the rest of CPS Camp 69, working at Cleveland State Mental Hospital, were appalled by the conditions and the treatment of the patients. When their complaints to their supervisors went unheeded, they went to the press, which led to the conditions being exposed, and subsequently fixed. And the folks in Camp 69 were dispersed among other CPS camps.

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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:38:27pm

My folks, at a time when they were truly happy: up at a fishing camp in northern Minnesota. Both had had lots of health problems, but were in a good time, and both of their kids were doing well. Love it. Love them.

Good Fishin’
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:46:47pm
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KGxvi  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:54:42pm

re: #212 goddamnedfrank

Pretty sure that’s a bumper sticker

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 19, 2016 • 10:57:38pm

re: #213 KGxvi

Pretty sure that’s a bumper sticker

It is now:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 19, 2016 • 11:50:09pm

re: #185 GlutenFreeJesus

Anerica? Sigh. You had one job to do. One.

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2016 • 11:50:27pm

I am not at all versed in the politics of the European Union. Still, I saw this and laughed a good lot.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 12:13:00am
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Nyet  Jun 20, 2016 • 1:40:32am

Embarrassing children.

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2016 • 1:44:26am

re: #218 Nyet

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 20, 2016 • 1:52:50am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 20, 2016 • 2:10:23am

re: #220 Ace-o-aces

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Chucky thinks he’s one of the “cool kids”?

Sorry, I have coffee coming out of my nose now.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2016 • 2:15:49am

re: #220 Ace-o-aces

twitter.com

Who could it be?? So confusing…

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Shimshon  Jun 20, 2016 • 2:27:15am

Chucky’s coke dealer is getting rich…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2016 • 3:14:48am

No comment needed……

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2016 • 3:33:07am

……

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2016 • 3:46:35am

Hmmm… Closer to a possible motive for the Jo Cox assassination?
Jo Cox was working on report on anti-Muslim attacks before her death

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freetoken  Jun 20, 2016 • 4:18:33am

It’s only 4AM and already there is a strong breeze from the mountains towards the desert… a very dry breeze.

When the sun comes up it’s going to real hot real fast.

What happened to June?

This El Niño was a bust, as far as precip. And now June is turning into August.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 4:21:50am

re: #227 freetoken

It’s only 4AM and already there is a strong breeze from the mountains towards the desert… a very dry breeze.

When the sun comes up it’s going to real hot real fast.

What happened to June?

This El Niño was a bust, as far as precip. And now June is turning into August.

Here where I am in China, we’ve got too much rain, and a neighboring town is mostly underwater now. If I could send you some precip, I would.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 4:46:36am

Donald attempts to “explain”:

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2016 • 4:48:20am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald attempts to “exgunplain”:

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FTFY.

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Joe Bacon  Jun 20, 2016 • 5:00:31am

re: #227 freetoken

It’s only 4AM and already there is a strong breeze from the mountains towards the desert… a very dry breeze.

When the sun comes up it’s going to real hot real fast.

What happened to June?

This El Niño was a bust, as far as precip. And now June is turning into August.

Just got up here in Los Angeles. Outside it’s only 74 right now. It’s finally 82 in my main room but 87 in the kitchen…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 20, 2016 • 5:04:04am

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS A IDIOT==>

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I’ll chip into his Gofundme campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 5:09:54am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2016 • 5:50:22am

re: #232 I Would Prefer Not To

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 5:51:31am

Trump hilariously tries to walk back his plan to fight terrorism by arming drunken clubgoers

Last week, Donald Trump achieved what many thought impossible: He made a proposal for giving more people guns that even the National Rifle Association found too extreme.

Giphy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 5:52:11am

Presser set for later today.

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jeffreyw  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:00:57am

Imgur
Good morning!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:07:55am

re: #220 Ace-o-aces

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:11:14am
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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:13:09am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a day ending in Y, which means the conspiracy nuts are out.

And Trump’s trying to walk back his nonsensical ravings about how only if more people in the club had guns, it would have been over sooner.

It’s not just Trump who said that. A whole segment of NRA/GOP nuts said it too. They believe that if you had widespread gun carry, you’d prevent all kinds of crime. We saw it with the nut who claimed a photo of three women carrying guns in Jerusalem was actually the streets of San Antonio (and last time I checked, Israel has: 1) strong gun control; 2) serious terrorism concerns; 3) on/off duty IDF are required to carry; 4) soldiers and LEOs with training trumps folks who just need to show ID if that can call themselves gun owners; 5) the 3 Israeli women were off duty police).

Then there’s the nuts who think that getting rid of AR-15 type weapons wont solve things, and instead offer up other weapons or bombs as a means of carrying out terrorism or mass shootings, as though it proves their point. What it does show is that there’s a whole lot of GOPers who are gun/violence fetishists who ignore the consequences of their actions. They also ignore the facts and reality on the ground.

The NRA is threatening politicians who vow to act on the maddening violence with “consequences”


Trump is the embodiment of that worldview, and he’s mirroring what his base support wants. Of course, that base support is also his ceiling, but only a few GOPers recognize that.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:21:18am

re: #186 retired cynic

If the game was rigged, Hillary would have won in 2008.

re: #192 William Lewis

Ohh… I just mic dropped that at my favorite site that is infested by berniebros.

(Putting on Turban and holding envelope to my forehead)

“The rules have been changed since then! Against us! The Pure and The Good!”

That’s what the Berniebros said in reply, isn’t it?

Myself I’ve just been sharing this picture with the Berniebros over at Facebook.

Two sides of the same coin.
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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:29:32am

All the racial minorities love me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:32:23am

Dana Gunz gunsplaining==>

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:32:30am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald attempts to “explain”:

Obviously.

/

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:35:55am

re: #170 Anymouse

Yes, I think there could be freedom in this land, but working within your system isn’t the answer, that simply perpetuates it, which of course is the statist goal.

Oh. OK.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:36:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:37:15am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Let the rending of garments begin…

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:40:33am

Gunsplainin’ - the act of explaining away yet another mass shooting as anything other than the absurdly easy availability of firearms of all kinds that allows pretty much anyone to get guns.

When you’re trying to claim that the Orlando massacre wasn’t perpetrated by the AR-15 and that there’s distinct differences between the AR-15 and the Sig Sauer version of the AR-15, you’re not exactly helping your cause.

When you’re arguing that someone should just use a tactical shotgun to kill a bunch of people since it’d be more lethal and cause more injuries in a mass shooting situation than a AR-15 type weapon, you’re not helping your cause.

When you’re arguing that we should all be packing heat wherever we go, even if it’s a bar or club or movie theater, you’re not exactly helping your cause.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:42:54am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:48:55am

This looks promising. Starring Anthony Hopkins, Ed Harris, Evan Rachel Wood, Thandie Newton and James Marsdale. Created by Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, with J.J. Abrams as executive producer.

Westworld.

Westworld: Teaser Trailer (HBO)

Premiers this fall on HBO.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:50:48am

Who does this kind of thing at this junction? He should have been gone after the assault of Fields, but Trump kept him on. Guess he decides it’s too quiet with his campaign, and they need to shake things up?

Bugnuts is bugnuts.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:52:38am

re: #251 lawhawk

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Who does this kind of thing at this junction? He should have been gone after the assault of Fields, but Trump kept him on. Guess he decides it’s too quiet with his campaign, and they need to shake things up?

Bugnuts is bugnuts.

I’m waiting to see if Rage Furby, who defended Lewandowski over Fields, will have anything to say about this.

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lizardofid  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:54:02am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

This looks promising. Starring Anthony Hopkins, Ed Harris, Evan Rachel Wood, Thandie Newton and James Marsdale. Created by Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, with J.J. Abrams as executive producer.

Westworld.

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Video

Premiers this fall on HBO.

It does look good. All it needs is a some Yul Brynner!

Youtube Video

//

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:54:06am

re: #249 FormerDirtDart

Donald Trump is cracking up t.co pic.twitter.com
— Ann Telnaes

Is?

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Lidane  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:54:11am

re: #251 lawhawk

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Who does this kind of thing at this junction? He should have been gone after the assault of Fields, but Trump kept him on. Guess he decides it’s too quiet with his campaign, and they need to shake things up?

Bugnuts is bugnuts.

This sounds like Manafort asserting his role behind the scenes and making it clear that it came down to him or Lewandowski, and that Trump had to make a choice.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:56:39am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

This looks promising. Starring Anthony Hopkins, Ed Harris, Evan Rachel Wood, Thandie Newton and James Marsdale. Created by Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, with J.J. Abrams as executive producer.

Westworld.

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Premiers this fall on HBO.

Yeah, looks interesting. Haven’t seen Evan Rachel Wood in a while.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:57:37am
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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:58:39am

re: #213 KGxvi

Pretty sure that’s a bumper sticker

It is now:

re: #255 Lidane

This sounds like Manafort asserting his role behind the scenes and making it clear that it came down to him or Lewandowski, and that Trump had to make a choice.

That would mark a victory for sanity, but now comes the question: Can Manafort get Trump to speak and tweet in a more disciplined manner? I say the odds of that are about 35-65 against.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:59:36am

re: #251 lawhawk

re: #252 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

re: #255 Lidane

re: #257 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 6:59:41am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

Also starring Jeffrey Wright. Big fan. Great cast. And it’s another remake/reimagining of a Yul Brynner film (Magnificient Seven coming out later this year, with Denzel and Chris Pine and Ethan Hawke, among others).

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:01:02am
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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:01:11am

re: #259 FormerDirtDart

Awkward? Hah! Trump doesn’t do anything but awkward these days.

Trump’s relationship with the RNC? Awkward.

Trump’s relationship with reality? Awkward.

That’s Trump’s relationship status - awkward

And yes… that’s bumper sticker worthy…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:02:19am

And Game of Thrones brought it last night.

Finally got rid of that awful Ramsey Bolton.

It almost seems as if they’re finally bringing things together into some kind of mega showdown, though we’ll have to wait for next season—of course. But by then they’ll come up with some other diversions to keep the series going aimlessly.

The whole Arya Stark-the-girl-with-no-name business seemed like it went on for ever, and all for pretty much nothing. But I’m still watching…

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:02:22am

re: #260 lawhawk

Also starring Jeffrey Wright. Big fan. Great cast. And it’s another remake/reimagining of a Yul Brynner film (Magnificient Seven coming out later this year, with Denzel and Chris Pine and Ethan Hawke, among others).

Its based on a Michael Crichton novel, whose concept he later reworked as Jurassic Park.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:03:18am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart

Asked if staff was notified of Corey decision, campaign source tells me it’s “bedlam in the Trump campaign. No one knows what is happening.”
— Ali Vitali

Oh, so a day ending in -day.

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Lidane  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:06:25am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

That would mark a victory for sanity, but now comes the question: Can Manafort get Trump to speak and tweet in a more disciplined manner? I say the odds of that are about 35-65 against.

You’re being generous. I’ve got it at 5% - 95% against.

Trump is going to be Trump. He’s outsourced his GOTV, data gathering and analysis, and campaign logistics to the RNC and that’s not their job. He’s also minimized every other typical role that a traditional campaign has. For fuck’s sake, he’s got maybe 30 people working for him on a presidential campaign TOTAL. No ground game, no teams in the different states, nada.

Message discipline on Twitter and forcing Cheeto Jesus to use a Teleprompter won’t be enough. Manafort is going to have to create the same kind of campaign infrastructure in the next few months that the Clinton camp has spent the last year building. He’s good, but he’s not a miracle worker.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:08:55am

I beg to differ.
Trump has grabbed hold of the news cycle, and it will be his all day.
And, that is all that matter to the Trump campaign…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:10:17am

re: #266 Lidane

You’re being generous. I’ve got it at 5% - 95% against.

Trump is going to be Trump. He’s outsourced his GOTV, data gathering and analysis, and campaign logistics to the RNC and that’s not their job. He’s also minimized every other typical role that a traditional campaign has. For fuck’s sake, he’s got maybe 30 people working for him on a presidential campaign TOTAL. No ground game, no teams in the different states, nada.

Message discipline on Twitter and forcing Cheeto Jesus to use a Teleprompter won’t be enough. Manafort is going to have to create the same kind of campaign infrastructure in the next few months that the Clinton camp has spent the last year building. He’s good, but he’s not a miracle worker.

Trump’s real campaign manager is Trump himself, who has no game plan or strategy other than to say shit and get the base worked up into a frenzy, and then say he never said that shit. He’s impulsive and undisciplined, and he’s providing us an explanation for his many business failures.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:11:27am

More “terrible, inaccurate, biased” reporting…
Damn those filthy journalist for using Trump’s own words…

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:13:13am

The vehicle model that reportedly crushed “Star Trek” actor Anton Yelchin on Saturday — killing him in a freak accident outside his Los Angeles home — was recalled just months ago after a problem with its park function caused dozens of injuries and hundreds of crashes…

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:13:57am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

No odds.

It’s clear that Trump can’t stay on message for more than a single speaking engagement. The moment he ends one, he’s off on a tangent.

He simply is incapable of staying on any message other than his nativist/xenophobic one, because that’s the message that resonates most clearly with GOP base (his supporters).

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:15:20am

re: #270 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, geeeze, what a story. Good actor, gone way too soon.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:16:34am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Its based on a Michael Crichton novel, whose concept he later reworked as Jurassic Park.

Chrichton also wrote and directed the 1973 original upon which this new HBO series is based. And Jurassic Park is certainly one of his best novels, though Spielberg made some changes for the cinematic adaptation (particularly the character of John Hammond, who in the novel comes across as basically a psychotic Walt Disney).

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:17:01am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:18:07am

re: #268 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trump’s real campaign manager is Trump himself, who has no game plan or strategy other than to say shit and get the base worked up into a frenzy, and then say he never said that shit. He’s impulsive and undisciplined, and he’s providing us an explanation for his many business failures.

This.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:19:02am

re: #275 Dr Lizardo

This.

And probably his previous marriages, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:23:00am

SCOTUS really cranking out decisions today.
Four already.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:25:31am

and this one is really, wow:

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:25:42am

Here’s a site combining two of my favorite things: Cats on Amps.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:27:55am

re: #278 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Trump-loving ex-cop recruits ‘lone wolf patriots’ to open fire on black protesters at GOP convention

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People of Cleveland: Stay inside! Do not attempt to go out during the GOP convention. Avoid standing near windows. If you do need to go out during the convention, avoid eye contact with anyone in your path.

Better yet, take a nice vacation somewhere.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:28:35am

re: #273 Dr Lizardo

Chrichton also wrote and directed the 1973 original upon which this new HBO series is based. And Jurassic Park is certainly one of his best novels, though Spielberg made some changes for the cinematic adaptation (particularly the character of John Hammond, who in the novel comes across as basically a psychotic Walt Disney).

And who got spared due to the movie rewrite, much like Ian Malcolm got retconned as surviving the events of the first novel when it came time to write The Lost World after the first film was wildly successful.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:30:06am

A spot check of the Rage Furby’s multiple accounts shows all are still operational, though quiet at this writing.

Nice going, @support.

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sagehen  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:30:21am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So is that RICO one about the Blackwater thing with their male employees raping American women employees?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:31:24am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

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and this one is really, wow:

I don’t understand what’s new about this one. They ruled over 30 years ago, thanks to M.A.D.D., that evidence obtained through illegal search and seizure was admissible. Maybe the cops would be given a slap on the wrist, but that wouldn’t help the victim any.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:31:27am

re: #278 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Trump-loving ex-cop recruits ‘lone wolf patriots’ to open fire on black protesters at GOP convention

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Video

Black Lives Matter has threatened riots? What planet does this nut live on? Their protests have at times attracted ‘riot tourists’, but I’ve never heard anyone who can be called a BLM leader advocate violence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:31:55am

re: #284 sagehen

So is that RICO one about the Blackwater thing with their males employees raping American women employees?

tobacco case: RJR Nabisco v. European Community.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:33:26am

re: #282 Targetpractice

And who got spared due to the movie rewrite, much like Ian Malcolm got retconned as surviving the events of the first novel when it came time to write The Lost World after the first film was wildly successful.

I suppose if Spielberg had done a totally faithful adaptation of the source novel, it would’ve been a bit too grim for most audiences. Crichton and David Koepp wrote the screenplay for the first Jurassic Park film and they did (IMHO) a damn good job.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:43:48am

re: #278 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Trump-loving ex-cop recruits ‘lone wolf patriots’ to open fire on black protesters at GOP convention

There will be blood. And there will be blame. On both sides.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:45:42am

re: #288 Dr Lizardo

I suppose if Spielberg had done a totally faithful adaptation of the source novel, it would’ve been a bit too grim for most audiences. Crichton and David Koepp wrote the screenplay for the first Jurassic Park film and they did (IMHO) a damn good job.

I recall that one of the park owner’s grandkids gets killed in the storm.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:46:59am

re: #288 Dr Lizardo

I suppose if Spielberg had done a totally faithful adaptation of the source novel, it would’ve been a bit too grim for most audiences. Crichton and David Koepp wrote the screenplay for the first Jurassic Park film and they did (IMHO) a damn good job.

I read The Andromeda Strain when it was out—so I’m familiar with movie adaptations of Crichton novels. Every one where I’ve read the book and seen the movie, the movie was an improvement. He was great at taking ideas that had been old hat in science fiction for decades and bringing them to the public’s (and moviemakers’) attention…writing them up, not so much.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:47:31am

Four months ago…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:55:22am

Bigots swarm an American Muslim writer after Daily Caller attacks her for innocuous tweet

Alawa’s most horrendous crime, in the minds of her attackers? She once tweeted that the 9/11 attacks permanently changed the world.


No, really. Here’s the tweet that triggered the onslaught of Internet harassment that’s made Alawa’s life a living hell:

You may notice that she did not say that 9/11 changed the world “for the better.” She said “for good,” a phrase that everyone with even a rudimentary grasp of English should know means “permanently.”


But somehow every right-wing Muslim-hater who saw the Daily Caller post that launched this wave of hate decided that she was praising the terrorist attacks on 9/11/2001 in that tweet. Adding to their indignation: the fact that Alawa had participated in the making of a recently issued Department of Homeland Security report on violent extremism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 7:57:21am

re: #293 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Bigots swarm an American Muslim writer after Daily Caller attacks her for innocuous tweet

That was an unfortunate choice of words…

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:00:12am
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Belafon  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:00:14am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was an unfortunate choice of words…

It’s probably what she could get to fit.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:00:44am

re: #293 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Bigots swarm an American Muslim writer after Daily Caller attacks her for innocuous tweet

The tweet was just a pretext for the bigots who swarmed her, their excuse for attacking a woman online, with the added bonus that she is Muslim. They just want to hurt someone, and they use ‘anti-terrorism’ as a cover for their depredations.

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Lidane  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:01:31am

re: #295 FormerDirtDart

For the baseball impaired, like me, here’s context for that tweet: 1962 Mets

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:01:33am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:01:38am

re: #295 FormerDirtDart

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:03:30am

re: #296 Belafon

It’s probably what she could get to fit.

which goes to show again that Twitter lacks the ability to discuss complex issues. It is great for talking points and memes, which is about the level of modern public & political discourse.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:04:57am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was an unfortunate choice of words…

“For good” means “forever”, “permanently”. I can’t torture it into remotely meaning anything else. She didn’t say “for the good”—and even if she’d meant that, she would more likely have said “for the better”. These are just pig-ignorant, lying assholes.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:05:33am

Daily Failer (Caller) reporter gets fisked by Snopes, and it is … brilliant:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:05:35am

re: #302 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“For good” means “forever”, “permanently”. I can’t torture it into remotely meaning anything else. She didn’t say “for the good”—and even if she’s meant that, she would more likely have said “for the better”. These are just pig-ignorant, lying assholes.

They are balls of rage with a hair trigger…

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:06:44am

Question: I keep seeing it pushed that Bernie is pushing the party left by being in the race. Considering how little he’s done in the Senate, coupled with Clinton’s accomplishments, it’s obviously anti-Clinton, but isn’t it also a bit sexist? No one seems to be really hammering him on his lack of accomplishments.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:06:48am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

which goes to show again that Twitter lacks the ability to conveyance necessary to discuss complex issues. It is great for talking points and memes, which is about the level of modern public & political discourse.

Fixed, but otherwise very good.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:09:16am

re: #298 Lidane

For the baseball impaired, like me, here’s context for that tweet: 1962 Mets

Arguable that it in no way resembles the 62 Mets (worst team in MLB history).

Better option? Lewandowski got traded off the 1986 Red Sox after the LCS if you’re going with baseball/Mets references. Outcome is Mets win w/unforced error after error. Lewandowski is the Buckner of the Trump campaign.

Because Trump’s campaign already showed it can win over the rest of the league (GOP).

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:09:24am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah, I thought “for the good” rather than “for good” or “for ever” when I first saw it. But before attacking someone for tweeting that, perhaps the Daily Caller could have checked her other writings to get some context and in either event, not launched an online attack on her.

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ipsos  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:09:25am

re: #182 Charles Johnson

OK, I turned off that ad again. That’s coming from Amazon CPM, and I’ve reported it to them.

That NBA one was causing me problems, too.

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KerFuFFler  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:10:20am

I just loved this quote from a Chait post:

Trump dominated the Republican primary because he mastered one weird trick. The trick was to constantly spout wild and offensive comments, frequently targeted at women or people of other races or nationalities, generating a constant stream of news coverage focused on Trump’s latest outrage.

One weird trick……heh.

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ozharas  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:10:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:10:33am

re: #308 Sir John Barron

Yeah, I thought “for the good” rather than “for good” or “for ever” when I first saw it. But before attacking someone for tweeting that, perhaps the Daily Caller could have checked her other writings to get some context and in either event, not launched an online attack on her.

Hair-trigger rage does not stop to research context and nuance…

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:11:00am

Halp! My microsoft office has crashed on my work computer. Win 7.

Should I download windows 10? will that repair it? ugh.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:13:28am

re: #298 Lidane

For the baseball impaired, like me, here’s context for that tweet: 1962 Mets

Really enjoyed the Mets broadcast crew of Kiner, Murphy and Nelson back in the day. They were all still broadcasting Mets games in the 1970’s when I became a baseball fan. Grew up in NJ so I got Philly and NY broadcasts. Philly had Harry Kalas, Andy Muser and Richie Ashburn which was a great broadcast team, too.

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KGxvi  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:14:40am

re: #271 lawhawk

No odds.

It’s clear that Trump can’t stay on message for more than a single speaking engagementsentence. The moment he endsstarts one, he’s off on a tangent.

He simply is incapable of staying on any message other than his nativist/xenophobic one, because that’s the message that resonates most clearly with GOP base (his supporters).

Fixed for accuracy. This election is going to be a slow motion shitshow. Seriously, if you’d have written something like this as fiction/parable/satire, it would have been rejected as too far out there. And yet…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:15:17am

re: #311 ozharas

Hope Corey can get those tire marks off from where the bus ran over and over him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:16:42am

re: #315 KGxvi

Fixed for accuracy. This election is going to be a slow motion shitshow. Seriously, if you’d have written something like this as fiction/parable/satire, it would have been rejected as too far out there. And yet…

Onion had it nailed years ago: After Obama Victory, Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage Early GOP Front-Runner For 2016

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:18:51am

re: #310 KerFuFFler

I just loved this quote from a Chait post:

Trump dominated the Republican primary because he mastered one weird trick. The trick was to constantly spout wild and offensive comments, frequently targeted at women or people of other races or nationalities, generating a constant stream of news coverage focused on Trump’s latest outrage.

One weird trick……heh.

Also note the rhetorical power for a candidate having one or two well thought out policy ideas catchphrases—Build the Wall!!! America Winning!!!1

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:21:04am

re: #318 Sir John Barron

Trump dominated the Republican primary because he mastered one weird trick. The trick was to constantly spout wild and offensive comments, frequently targeted at women or people of other races or nationalities, generating a constant stream of news coverage focused on Trump’s latest outrage.

And that stream of coverage distracted people from discussing his total lack of a record of public service and the fact that he is completely unqualified for the office he is seeking

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Snarknado!  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:23:21am

re: #313 Stanley Sea

Halp! My microsoft office has crashed on my work computer. Win 7.

Should I download windows 10? will that repair it? ugh.

Doubtful. If it’s truly dead, and the standard tricks (restart, reboot, hike!) don’t work, I’d try reinstalling office.

Surely other lizards know more than I do about this.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:25:01am

re: #318 Sir John Barron

Also note the rhetorical power for a candidate having one or two well thought out policy ideas catchphrases—Build the Wall!!! America Winning!!!1

FYI: Charlie Sheen doesn’t like Donald Trump, so using Sheen’s #winning meme with Trump is not entirely fair to Mr. Sheen.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:29:45am
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iossarian  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:33:33am

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary should run an ad which kicks off with a brief flashback to Mitt Romney’s “I like firing people”, with a creepy echo effect, and then just features Trump saying “you’re fired” over and over again, against a backdrop of shuttered factories and warehouses.

Fade to black with a simple message: “Republicans like firing people. Vote Democratic in November.”

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:36:05am

re: #323 iossarian

Hillary should run an ad which kicks off with a brief flashback to Mitt Romney’s “I like firing people”, with a creepy echo effect, and then just features Trump saying “you’re fired” over and over again, against a backdrop of shuttered factories and warehouses.

Fade to black with a simple message: “Republicans like firing people. Vote Democratic in November.”

Though to fair, both Romney and Trump were talking about managers who don’t measure up to their standards, not about firing ordinary workers.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:36:09am

It’s already 94 degrees in Las Vegas. It’s 8:33AM. Expected to get up to 111 in Vegas today.

It’s 97 in Phoenix. Expected to get up to 115.

I know, it’s a desert. It’s what you expect. But it’s a wee bit early for this kind of extreme heat. Doesn’t bode well for the rest of the summer.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:36:45am

GotNwes with an update from the Chuck Bolton v. Twitter Snow battle:

Chuck Johnson’s multiple accounts still active on Twitter after 2 days

Two days after Rage Furby Chuck Johnson thumbed his nose at Twitter by creating several sockpuppet accounts, all of them still appear to be active, despite Twitter rules against multiple accounts.

Johnson was banned from Twitter over Memorial Day 2015 weekend, and his immediate attempts to register new accounts were quickly thwarted. On Friday, he created another account, which was shot down by Twitter within hours. Making good his threat to create a new account each day, he opened a new one, which was suspended, too.

Then, on Sunday he created several accounts simultaneously and/or recruited loyal minions to allow him access to theirs. At last report, those accounts (six of which are pictured above) included @chuckcj0hnson, which appears to the prime account, @gingerharbinger, @chuckoverdawall, @cantcuckchuck, @Polyestersock, @chuckjohnson76 (which may belong to another user), and @jarleschonson. With the exception of @chuckjohnson76, all feature a mugshot of the Ginger Avenger, upright or otherwise.

More at GotNwes

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KerFuFFler  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:37:00am

re: #323 iossarian

Hillary should run an ad which kicks off with a brief flashback to Mitt Romney’s “I like firing people”, with a creepy echo effect, and then just features Trump saying “you’re fired” over and over again, against a backdrop of shuttered factories and warehouses.

Fade to black with a simple message: “Republicans like firing people. Vote Democratic in November.”

Love it!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:40:12am

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

Though to fair, both Romney and Trump were talking about managers who don’t measure up to their standards, not about firing ordinary workers.

They both like bankrupting companies. Ordinary workers get fired.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:41:05am

re: #326 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Then, on Sunday he created several accounts simultaneously and/or recruited loyal minions to allow him access to theirs. At last report, those accounts (six of which are pictured above) included @chuckcj0hnson, which appears to the prime account, @gingerharbinger, @chuckoverdawall, @cantcuckchuck, @Polyestersock, @chuckjohnson76 (which may belong to another user), and @jarleschonson. With the exception of @chuckjohnson76, all feature a mugshot of the Ginger Avenger, upright or otherwise.

Eventually he’s going to have every possible derivation of his name blocked and he’ll have to resort using @rainbowponywarrior

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:41:32am

re: #325 lawhawk

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It’s already 94 degrees in Las Vegas. It’s 8:33AM. Expected to get up to 111 in Vegas today.

It’s 97 in Phoenix. Expected to get up to 115.

I know, it’s a desert. It’s what you expect. But it’s a wee bit early for this kind of extreme heat. Doesn’t bode well for the rest of the summer.

And Phoenix has grown so much that the metro area does not cool off at night.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:41:47am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

They both like bankrupting companies. Ordinary workers get fired.

How do you figure they enjoy a company they own part of going bankrupt?

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iossarian  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:41:55am

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

Though to fair, both Romney and Trump were talking about managers who don’t measure up to their standards, not about firing ordinary workers.

Please.

You know as well as I do that “ordinary workers” don’t even register for the likes of Romney and Trump. They’re an irritating detail on a spreadsheet, standing between him and another car elevator.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:42:47am

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

How do you figure they enjoy a company they own part of going bankrupt?

It’s their favorite business model.

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iossarian  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:43:52am

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

How do you figure they enjoy a company they own part of going bankrupt?

It’s the Goldman Sachs model.

- Load up on debt (sold off to suckers) to…
- Take the company private
- Pay huge consulting fees to the management consultants and bankers
- Dump the fragments and leave the suckers holding the bag

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:45:35am

re: #334 iossarian

It’s the Goldman Sachs model.

- Load up on debt (sold off to suckers) to…
- Take the company private
- Pay huge consulting fees to the management consultants and bankers
- Dump the fragments and leave the suckers holding the bag

Bain model as well.
Romney bragged on that a lot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:45:45am

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

How do you figure they enjoy a company they own part of going bankrupt?

Because of the wonders of our corporatist, capitalist system, they can profit from those companies going bankrupt.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:46:02am

re: #334 iossarian

It’s the Goldman Sachs model.

- Load up on debt (sold off to suckers) to…
- Take the company private
- Pay huge consulting fees to the management consultants and bankers
- Dump the fragments and leave the suckers holding the bag

How did that kind of slash-and-burn operational plan come to be named after Goldman Sachs?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:46:08am

re: #303 lawhawk

Daily Failer (Caller) reporter gets fisked by Snopes, and it is … brilliant:

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That is a thing of beauty. The Caller writer in question is one of their associate editors, Peter Hasson.

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iossarian  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:46:37am

AKA asset stripping. Hugely popular under Thatcher and Reagan, so much so in the UK that it spawned a whole stand-up comedy line of jokes and sketches.

That was the 80s. Amazing that people still don’t get how it works and why people like Romney and Trump do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:46:46am

re: #337 Dark_Falcon

How did that kind of slash-and-burn operational plan come to be named after Goldman Sachs?

I assume because that is what their reputation as a profitable corporation is based on…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:47:44am

I’ve done my part for truth, justice and the American way. Time for bed. C U

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iossarian  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:49:36am

re: #337 Dark_Falcon

How did that kind of slash-and-burn operational plan come to be named after Goldman Sachs?

Do you pay any attention to anything happening in the world at all?

There’s a reason why GS makes a ton of money and it isn’t because they provide sober advice to sensible, responsible captains of industry, though they may do some of that as a loss leader.

Goldman Sachs sets up asymmetric deals, in which one party (A) knows a whole lot more about the value of the trade than the other (B). That’s why they can charge such high margins on their services, because party A is still getting a fucking great deal even after the bankers take their cut.

Party B is the sucker in the deal who gets left with some worthless financial instrument or devalued asset.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:50:52am

re: #342 iossarian

Goldman Sachs sets up asymmetric deals, in which one party (A) knows a whole lot more about the value of the trade than the other (B). That’s why they can charge such high margins on their services, because party A is still getting a fucking great deal even after the bankers take their cut.

Party B is the sucker in the deal who gets left with some worthless financial instrument or devalued asset.

Greece, for example…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:51:07am

Racist beachgoer takes kid’s football and goes on hammer rampage after teens confront him

He seems nice… Now if only he’d had an AR-15. Damn liberal Tax-achusetts!

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iossarian  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:51:08am

It’s like with poker. If you don’t know who the sucker at the table is, it’s you.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:52:08am

BBL

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:53:02am

re: #326 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

GotNwes with an update from the Chuck Bolton v. Twitter Snow battle:

More at GotNwes

That’s some great research enterprise Rage Furby has going on.

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iossarian  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:53:41am

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Greece, for example…

Closer to home, the various municipal bodies who got sold crappy hedges against fuel price increases in the 2000s.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:55:02am

If this Twitter gossip is right, then the push to dump Lewandowski came from someone even closer to Von ClownStick:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:55:15am

re: #329 Dr. Matt

Eventually he’s going to have every possible derivation of his name blocked and he’ll have to resort using @rainbowponywarrior

Is @floorpooper already taken?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:57:11am

Is there precedence for a website to file a cease and desist against a troll/user?

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:57:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:58:12am

re: #348 iossarian

Closer to home, the various municipal bodies who got sold crappy hedges against fuel price increases in the 2000s.

Greece is close to home: GS sold the default insurance to US investors, which means that if Greece is allowed to go down, they go with it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:58:23am

re: #349 CuriousLurker

If this Twitter gossip is right, then the push to dump Lewandowski came from someone even closer to Von ClownStick:

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A few others may not have liked him:

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:58:40am

re: #349 CuriousLurker

As @KristenhCNN reports that Corey was rumored to be targeting her husband t.co
— Tal Kopan

Corey was “targeting” Ivanka’s husband? Sounds pretty menacing.

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:59:06am

re: #349 CuriousLurker

If this Twitter gossip is right, then the push to dump Lewandowski came from someone even closer to Von ClownStick:

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Wow. I’m trying to think of an apt descriptor for that campaign right now - ‘disarray’ does not begin to cover it.

Also - how stupid does Lewandowski have to be to go after a Trump family member? That seems to be the one sure way to lose a gig with Trump.

(Unless he sees the writing on the wall and decided to [metaphorically] slit his own throat…)

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2016 • 8:59:15am

re: #352 lawhawk

Hearing Lewandowski was escorted out by Trump security this morning. His firing was result of coup by Trump children, campaign source said.
— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) June 20, 2016

Sounds like the Trump kids want to ensure there is no way in hell that their Cheetoed daddy will win.

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nines09  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:00:18am

Corey Lewandowski is out. There. Everything is better. Headline of the day should be “Corey Lewandowski out amid concerns.” Good one. Concerns. Ha. haha. hahahahhaaa. haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…

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CuriousLurker  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:00:49am

re: #354 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

A few others may not have liked him:

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LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:02:36am
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:02:38am

Will these children ever grow up?

“I came here from Worcester, Massachusetts, with a message,” said Christopher Horton, wearing a tight gray T-shirt with the campaign’s logo. “We have to demand that Bernie be given the nomination he has won fair and square in the polls.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:03:22am

re: #355 Sir John Barron

Corey was “targeting” Ivanka’s husband? Sounds pretty menacing.

Let me guess: anti-Semitic slurs?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:04:29am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart

Will these children ever grow up?

I joined a delegate strategy session on how Sanders can still win the nomination. It didn’t go great.

Reminds me of myself and the 1969 Chicago Cubs, we held on to hopes that they could still pull out the NL pennant even after the Mets had come from behind to blow them out of first place…(I was ten years old at the time)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:05:40am

re: #320 Snarknado!

Doubtful. If it’s truly dead, and the standard tricks (restart, reboot, hike!) don’t work, I’d try reinstalling office.

Surely other lizards know more than I do about this.

Thanks, I found a fix online - I had to clean or do something to the winsock. It worked whatever it was!!!

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:06:15am
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CuriousLurker  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:06:39am

re: #355 Sir John Barron

re: #356 makeitstop

Yeah, this is getting interesting now—in a slow down and rubberneck kind of way, heh. That whole “Trump train” meme? Reminds me of Blaine the Mono.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:07:20am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

1969

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:07:33am

So all that drama over whether or not to ditch Corey weeks ago, just to dump him because Ivanka said so.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:08:24am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart

“I came here from Worcester, Massachusetts, with a message,” said Christopher Horton, wearing a tight gray T-shirt with the campaign’s logo. “We have to demand that Bernie be given the nomination he has won fair and square in the polls.”

Polls > Votes. I see.

Goalposts. Moved.

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:09:31am

He hired Michelle Bachmann’s strategist? Brilliant.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:09:40am

re: #369 Sir John Barron

Polls > Votes. I see.

Goalposts. Moved.

Maybe he means “polls” as in “polling station” or voting polls as a place where one casts votes. Still stupid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:10:05am

re: #370 makeitstop

He hired Michelle Bachmann’s strategist? Brilliant.

Crazy Eyes, meet Crazy Hair…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:10:56am

re: #372 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Crazy Eyes, meet Crazy Hair…

That was Corey’s past campaign experience?

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:15:22am

re: #373 Sir John Barron

That was Corey’s past campaign experience?

No, this is a different guy, Keith Nahigian. He ran Crazy Eyes’ presidential campaign, and is apparently in charge of Trump’s ‘surrogate strategy,’ whatever the hell that is.

I wonder if Bullet Necklace Lady is going to get a pink slip?

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:16:26am

re: #369 Sir John Barron

Polls > Votes. I see.

Goalposts. Moved.

It ain’t the same fuckin’ ballpark, it ain’t the same league, it ain’t even the same fuckin’ sport.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:17:25am

re: #374 makeitstop

No, this is a different guy, Keith Nahigian. He ran Crazy Eyes’ presidential campaign, and is apparently in charge of Trump’s ‘surrogate strategy,’ whatever the hell that is.

I wonder if Bullet Necklace Lady is going to get a pink slip?

Oh, her, what a weird one that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:21:21am
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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:25:50am

re: #345 iossarian

It’s like with poker. If you don’t know who the sucker at the table is, it’s you.

In poker, one can judge by the sizes of the piles of chips. In politics, as in life, some of the biggest [IMHO] losers have lots and lots of chips.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:28:09am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, she did NOT like that ruling at all. Her dissent was really long. It started off with this (on the 11th page of the PDF provided below):

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, with whom JUSTICE GINSBURG joins as to Parts I, II, and III, dissenting.

The Court today holds that the discovery of a warrantfor an unpaid parking ticket will forgive a police officer’s violation of your Fourth Amendment rights. Do not be soothed by the opinion’s technical language: This case allows the police to stop you on the street, demand your identification, and check it for outstanding traffic warrants—even if you are doing nothing wrong. If the officer discovers a warrant for a fine you forgot to pay, courts will now excuse his illegal stop and will admit into evidence anything he happens to find by searching you after arresting you on the warrant. Because the Fourth Amendment should prohibit, not permit, such misconduct, I dissent. […]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:30:57am

re: #379 CuriousLurker

Yeah, she did NOT like that ruling at all. Her dissent was really long. It started off with this (on the 11th page of the PDF provided below):

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What makes this decision even more chilling is that SCOTUS upheld that it is OK for police to make a deliberately ILLEGAL traffic stop, and then start looking for any reason to search.

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:31:09am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oooh, Ta-Nehisi Coates got cited in a Supreme Court dissent! He should be so proud!

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:33:33am

re: #381 wrenchwench

Oooh, Ta-Nehisi Coates got cited in a Supreme Court dissent! He should be so proud!

It also makes me proud of Sotomayor.

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lizardofid  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:33:55am

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

How do you figure they enjoy a company they own part of going bankrupt?

It’s all in the way you keep the books.

no sarc

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:34:43am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

What makes this decision even more chilling is that SCOTUS upheld that it is OK for police to make a deliberately ILLEGAL traffic stop, and then start looking for any reason to search.

Yeah, but as I said before, it’s been that way for 30 years. What’s different about this decision?

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:36:14am
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CuriousLurker  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:38:03am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly. Kagan wrote the other dissent, and she agrees:

JUSTICE KAGAN, with whom JUSTICE GINSBURG joins,dissenting.

If a police officer stops a person on the street without reasonable suspicion, that seizure violates the FourthAmendment. And if the officer pats down the unlawfully detained individual and finds drugs in his pocket, the State may not use the contraband as evidence in a criminal prosecution. That much is beyond dispute. The question here is whether the prohibition on admitting evidence dissolves if the officer discovers, after making the stop but before finding the drugs, that the person has an outstanding arrest warrant. Because that added wrinkle makes no difference under the Constitution, I respectfully dissent.

This Court has established a simple framework for determining whether to exclude evidence obtained through a Fourth Amendment violation: Suppression is necessary when, but only when, its societal benefits outweigh its costs. See ante, at 4; Davis v. United States, 564 U. S. 229, 237 (2011). […]

Now imagine this decision under a president like Von ClownStick, who would undoubtedly appoint a J. Edgar Hoover type to run the FBI (and other federal agencies).

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:38:42am

re: #383 lizardofid

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

How do you figure they enjoy a company they own part of going bankrupt?

It’s all in the way you keep the books.

no sarc

Bankruptcy is a tool. All normal people enjoy wielding tools.

//

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lizardofid  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:41:07am

re: #387 wrenchwench

Bankruptcy is a tool. All normal people enjoy wielding tools.

//

……..and corporations are people too!

//

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:41:24am
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:42:42am
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Skip Intro  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:43:37am

re: #270 FormerDirtDart

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Actually they sent out recall notices last month. As of now, there is no fix other than to always engage the parking brake whenever you thing the trans is in Park.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:44:12am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart

Will these children ever grow up?

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They really should focus their efforts at the platform. It really is sad how many Sanders supporters cannot accept the fact that Bernie lost fair and square.

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:45:04am

re: #389 FormerDirtDart

Appears Lewandowski was fired w no severance, thus no non-disclosure.

That’s pretty surprising. I thought nobody got out of Trump’s organization (using that term very loosely right now) without signing an NDA.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:45:37am

I see that Trump fired Corey though. Heh that’s something. Maybe just maybe we’ll get the landslide that the GOP has been deserving for years.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:45:59am

re: #385 FormerDirtDart

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Started to read it, immediately started choking on bile. It’s the exact same brain dead viewpoint I read in the “Woe is me, my son is such a victim!” letter that Turner’s mom wrote to the judge to plead for a light sentence.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:47:39am

re: #389 FormerDirtDart

Appears Lewandowski was fired w no severance, thus no non-disclosure. And he was vetting VP’s. He may be an amazing OTR source.
- Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) June 20, 2016

The greatest business man in the history of the universe, and all parallel universes, fired a high ranking employee without a non-disclosure? Brilliant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:48:55am
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CuriousLurker  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:49:47am

re: #384 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, but as I said before, it’s been that way for 30 years. What’s different about this decision?

Kagan goes into detail beginning on page two of her dissent, starting with this:

This case thus requires the Court to determine whether excluding the fruits of Officer Douglas Fackrell’s unjustified stop of Edward Strieff would significantly deter police from committing similar constitutional violations in the future. And as the Court states, that inquiry turns on application of the “attenuation doctrine,” ante, at 5—our effort to “mark the point” at which the discovery of evidence “become[s] so attenuated” from the police misconduct that the deterrent benefit of exclusion drops below its cost. United States v. Leon, 468 U. S. 897, 911 (1984). […]

She goes on to discuss the three factors that have guided analysis until now:

• Temporal proximity
• How “purpose[ful]” or “flagran[t]” the police illegality is
• Intervening circumstances

It gets really detailed & complex, which makes it a bit hard to follow. Maybe lawhawk or one of our other lawyers can explain it in simplified terms.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:50:24am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

They really should focus their efforts at the platform. It really is sad how many Sanders supporters cannot accept the fact that Bernie lost fair and square.

To accept it would mean that they’re not the majority of the party, that they’re a (very vocal) minority that is slowly aging into irrelevance.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:50:41am

Laura Ingraham: Lewandowski’s Firing “A Good First Step” For Trump

This is the same twisted logic wingnuts used when they claimed Silly Sarah quitting her governorship was a brilliant plan.

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:50:44am

re: #389 FormerDirtDart

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That can’t be true. The Freepers were going on earlier this morning about how Corey had completed the stuff he needed to do and Trump was surely going to give him another job, or a nice severance package, or a pony or something because he is always generous to his employees.

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Lidane  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:51:34am

If this is remotely true, Trump is a dumbass:

Somehow I doubt there’s no NDA. It would be suicidal to run a presidential campaign with your staff not being under NDA.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:51:44am

re: #390 FormerDirtDart

I knew this was coming.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:52:08am

re: #401 calochortus

That can’t be true. The Freepers were going on earlier this morning about how Corey had completed the stuff he needed to do and Trump was surely going to give him another job, or a nice severance package, or a pony or something because he is always generous to his employees.

‘Early this morning’ is old news. New news is TRUMP IS SO GREAT WINNING CANS LIBERAL TRAITOR COREY!!!!!!.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:52:56am

re: #402 Lidane

Somehow I doubt there’s no NDA. It would be suicidal to run a presidential campaign with your staff not being under NDA.

We ARE talking about Donald Trump; so, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he did such a half-assed thing.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:53:01am

re: #400 Dr. Matt

Laura Ingraham: Lewandowski’s Firing “A Good First Step” For Trump

This is the same twisted logic wingnuts used when they claimed Silly Sarah quitting her governorship was a brilliant plan.

Everything is fine….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:53:19am

re: #395 Targetpractice

Started to read it, immediately started choking on bile. It’s the exact same brain dead viewpoint I read in the “Woe is me, my son is such a victim!” letter that Turner’s mom wrote to the judge to plead for a light sentence.

I actually read the whole thing and it is exactly the opposite of what you think:

I don’t want to teach my sons “not to rape,” I want to raise them in a way that the thought will never cross their minds

This essay was written by a young millennial who has no children and also not too careful about giving the wrong impression. You have to read pretty far into the article (which most people don’t have the attention span to do) before she gets to the actual point.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:54:36am

It’s only a matter of time before Lewandowski is labeled a “cuck” and a “RINO”.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:55:55am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

The greatest business man in the history of the universe, and all parallel universes, fired a high ranking employee without a non-disclosure? Brilliant.

He’s also a delegate from NH, so he’ll be at the convention. Aaaawkward!

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:55:59am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart

Will these children ever grow up?

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This:

“It’s really protesting this winner-take-all system that disenfranchises us on a deep level, not just at the ballot box,” Park said.

What winner-take-all system?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:57:04am

re: #410 Belafon

This:

What winner-take-all system?

Yeah someone hasn’t been paying attention.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:57:08am

re: #408 Dr. Matt

It’s only a matter of time before Lewandowski is labeled a “cuck” and a “RINO”.

Contact Winston Smith at the Ministry of Truth so that all past issues of Trump Today can be corrected.

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:58:33am

re: #404 Sir John Barron

‘Early this morning’ is old news. New news is TRUMP IS SO GREAT WINNING CANS LIBERAL TRAITOR COREY!!!!!!.

And, indeed, I just checked over there again and it’s all “Oh well, he lost the power struggle. Go Trump!” They seem to have short term memory issues (along with most Trump supporters.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:58:41am

re: #403 Dr Lizardo

I knew this was coming.

Rasmussen and Gallup are still in business, right? It’s been ongoing.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:59:34am

re: #402 Lidane

If this is remotely true, Trump is a dumbass:

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Somehow I doubt there’s no NDA. It would be suicidal to run a presidential campaign with your staff not being under NDA.

Everything Trump has done during this entire campaign season has made no sense except to his supporters who have come out in droves regardless of what Trump says.

Why would it be suicidal to his campaign? The bigotry, racism, and xenophobia didn’t kill his campaign, so why would he worry about what a former staffer might say - particularly one who had been protected by Trump even after the assault allegations and video came out showing him strongarming Fields?

Trump must figure there’s no downside here.

It also takes away attention from his NRA slapdown over his Orlando statement (I know, which one?) in which he claimed that if only more people at the club were armed, there might have been a different outcome. And by people, he meant club-goers. Not security.

The NRA might feign being taken aback by that, but the NRA/GOP seems to have no problem pushing that line. They think having people armed all over the place makes everyone safer, even though there’s scant evidence to back it up. And having a bunch of drunk people armed and trying to respond to an active shooter is a recipe for disaster. Even the NRA has some notion that this might not be the best response (even though they keep pushing for more and more places to carry and fewer and fewer restrictions on gun ownership.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:59:35am

re: #410 Belafon

This:

What winner-take-all system?

Bernie Kids: The winner take all system the GOP uses.

Us: Dem primaries were not WTA.

Bernie Kids: See, that what’s I’m saying. We needed WTA then Bernie won.

Us: Bangs head on wall.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:02:48am

re: #410 Belafon

This:

What winner-take-all system?

Bernie Kids: The ones Hillary won illegally.

Us: There were no WTA primaries on Dem side.

Bernie Kids: yes there were that’s why she won only reason.

Us: we picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:02:50am

re: #416 Sir John Barron

Bernie Kids: The winner take all system the GOP uses.

Us: Dem primaries were not WTA.

Bernie Kids: See, that what’s I’m saying. We needed WTA then Bernie won.

Us: Bangs head on wall.

They probably think caucuses only should be the solution. Under no currently existing rules does Bernie win. I think they like the Romney campaign in 2012 thought there was no way they’d lose because “no one they knew was voting for Clinton(or Obama in Romney’s case) so it comes a s a huge shock to them when Clinton actually wipes the floor with them.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:03:36am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

They probably think caucuses only should be the solution. Under no currently existing rules does Bernie win. I think they like the Romney campaign in 2012 thought there was no way they’d lose because “no one they knew was voting for Clinton(or Obama in Romney’s case) so it comes a s a huge shock to them when Clinton actually wipes the floor with them.

Primaries like NY should be open to include Independents and GOP and also closed caucuses in unrepresentative states are the awesome.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:04:10am

If the Dem primaries had been WTA, there wouldn’t even be talk about the superdelegates saving his ass because the deficit would be so large that they’d all have to flip for him.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:04:24am

re: #419 Sir John Barron

Primaries like NY should be open to include Independents and GOP and also closed caucuses in unrepresentative states are the awesome.

///

Ain’t Bernie math grand?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:05:46am

The most silly argument I see is “The polls favor Bernie against Trump”, okay fine but parties do NOT nominate people based on what abstract polls say. They’re just so fucking childish that the idea of Clinton winning never crossed their minds so ergo it’s fraud. They’re acting no different than those who insist that Obama stole 2008 and 2012.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:05:49am

re: #415 lawhawk

….The NRA might feign being taken aback by that, but the NRA/GOP seems to have no problem pushing that line. They think having people armed all over the place makes everyone safer, even though there’s scant evidence to back it up. And having a bunch of drunk people armed and trying to respond to an active shooter is a recipe for disaster. Even the NRA has some notion that this might not be the best response (even though they keep pushing for more and more places to carry and fewer and fewer restrictions on gun ownership.

There’s plenty of evidence the other way. I linked to this yesterday:

Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed

…Overall, Branas’s study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens. When the team looked at shootings in which victims had a chance to defend themselves, their odds of getting shot were even higher….

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:07:10am

I mean if the Democratic establishment was “rigging” it for Clinton, wouldn’t they have had the states change their rules in a way that favored Clinton i.e. stopping the caucuses(which had favored Obama over her in 2008). And for all Bernie’s complaints about closed primaries, there’s plenty of open state primaries in competitive electorally states no less that he lost big.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:07:30am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:14:00am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

I mean if the Democratic establishment was “rigging” it for Clinton, wouldn’t they have had the states change their rules in a way that favored Clinton i.e. stopping the caucuses(which had favored Obama over her in 2008). And for all Bernie’s complaints about closed primaries, there’s plenty of open state primaries in competitive electorally states no less that he lost big.

Sanders won closed primaries just as she won open primaries. The races that kept him afloat were the caucuses, as Nebraska and Washington demonstrated when they held primaries weeks later and she won both handedly.

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ChuckJager95  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:19:06am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:19:24am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

The most silly argument I see is “The polls favor Bernie against Trump”, okay fine but parties do NOT nominate people based on what abstract polls say. They’re just so fucking childish that the idea of Clinton winning never crossed their minds so ergo it’s fraud. They’re acting no different than those who insist that Obama stole 2008 and 2012.

That argument might have some relevancy if, say, Biden was doing better against Trump than Hillary. Still wouldn’t matter for determining the nomination aside from actual votes and delegates. But you could at least argue that having Biden would be better than HRC if his polls were so much better. But Bernie with the nomination would be in a position similar to that of Trump now—trying to run a general campaign after having spent more than a year catering to your base. And with Bernie, the GOP would hammer the whole Democratic Socialist thing. The polls would change rapidly and dramatically.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:21:16am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

I mean if the Democratic establishment was “rigging” it for Clinton, wouldn’t they have had the states change their rules in a way that favored Clinton i.e. stopping the caucuses(which had favored Obama over her in 2008). And for all Bernie’s complaints about closed primaries, there’s plenty of open state primaries in competitive electorally states no less that he lost big.

It’s also a pretty silly argument the more Trump’s polls collapse.

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Nyet  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:22:16am

re: #390 FormerDirtDart

You gotta love this implicit admission tho.

A full 50% of the poll’s respondents had a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared to 34% in reality, introducing more liberal bias.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:23:50am

re: #390 FormerDirtDart

Corrected Gravis is the poll I always go to for my Confirmed. FACT info.

///

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:24:26am

I was just visited by a couple I’ve known (off and on) for 20 years. They used to live in this town, we got some great books and maps at their yard sale when they moved to Arizona. Now they’re in New Mexico. They came to town because they’ve been smoked out of the fire watchtower they’ve lived in since March (their fourth or fifth tower job/residence).

She told me about a couple of nights ago, sleeping in the tower, when she heard a cat climbing up her guitar (twang, twang) onto the bed, and then she remembered, ‘That cat died years ago’, and confronted a wood rat. She was so calm telling the story, but she admitted to having screamed at the time.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:25:45am

re: #390 FormerDirtDart

In its biased form, the poll shows Trump only 2% behind Hillary Clinton in the head-to-head matchup, far below the ridiculously large Clinton leads of up to 12% that Bloomberg and other leftist media outlets have been oozing of late.

I know DimJim deserves SMOTI, but American Thinker sure provides some meaningful competition.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:26:18am
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CuriousLurker  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:28:42am

Whoaaaaaa:

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Franklin  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:29:37am

#434 and #435 unrelated I hope ;)

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:30:09am

re: #428 Sir John Barron

That argument might have some relevancy if, say, Biden was doing better against Trump than Hillary. Still wouldn’t matter for determining the nomination aside from actual votes and delegates. But you could at least argue that having Biden would be better than HRC if his polls were so much better. But Bernie with the nomination would be in a position similar to that of Trump now—trying to run a general campaign after having spent more than a year catering to your base. And with Bernie, the GOP would hammer the whole Democratic Socialist thing. The polls would change rapidly and dramatically.

What Bros don’t get is that Bernie’s numbers aren’t his floor, they’re his ceiling. If the situation were reversed and it was he who was headed to Philly as the nominee, the GOP would already be cranking out attack ads against him. 20 years of “HILLARY IS THE ANTI-CHRIST” has meant that attacking her as a “liar” or “crook” are falling flat. But Bernie’s a whole ‘nother story, there’s oodles of shit for the GOP to sling against him. Calling him a socialist would just be the proverbial tip of the iceberg.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:30:26am

re: #435 CuriousLurker

Whoaaaaaa:

[Embedded content]

Should’ve hung up their car in a tree. Learned that in girl scouts.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:30:46am

re: #427 ChuckJager95

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:31:38am

re: #438 InfidelOfFreedom

Should’ve hung up their car in a tree. Learned that in girl scouts.

I saw it in The Gods Must Be Crazy.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:32:41am

re: #437 Targetpractice

What Bros don’t get is that Bernie’s numbers aren’t his floor, they’re his ceiling. If the situation were reversed and it was he who was headed to Philly as the nominee, the GOP would already be cranking out attack ads against him. 20 years of “HILLARY IS THE ANTI-CHRIST” has meant that attacking her as a “liar” or “crook” are falling flat. But Bernie’s a whole ‘nother story, there’s oodles of shit for the GOP to sling against him. Calling him a socialist would just be the proverbial tip of the iceberg.

Yes, exactly.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:33:15am

re: #433 Sir John Barron

I know DimJim deserves SMOTI, but American Thinker sure provides some meaningful competition.

Bloomberg and other leftist media outlets

ROTFLMFAO!

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:35:10am

Forgot about this… so true.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:35:19am

re: #435 CuriousLurker

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:35:26am

re: #442 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Soon they’ll all be leftist.

Meanwhile real far left groups are laughing their asses off at what the RWNJs consider “far left”.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:35:48am

re: #435 CuriousLurker

Yogi thinks they should have bought North American

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:36:07am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clearly we’ve pissed off the bears so much they’ve decided to strike back.

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gwangung  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:37:30am

re: #437 Targetpractice

What Bros don’t get is that Bernie’s numbers aren’t his floor, they’re his ceiling. If the situation were reversed and it was he who was headed to Philly as the nominee, the GOP would already be cranking out attack ads against him. 20 years of “HILLARY IS THE ANTI-CHRIST” has meant that attacking her as a “liar” or “crook” are falling flat. But Bernie’s a whole ‘nother story, there’s oodles of shit for the GOP to sling against him. Calling him a socialist would just be the proverbial tip of the iceberg.

The Republicans could credibly accuse Sanders of being corrupt and unethical…and he has no answers for that. I doubt he could fend them off that easily.

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sagehen  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:37:31am

The Real News is Trump is Broke
talkingpointsmemo.com

To go back to cash on hand, Trump currently has $2.4 million and Clinton has just over $30 million. Remember, Trump is allegedly worth $10 billion, which at the risk of stating the obvious means he is worth ten thousand million dollars. Someone in that position might be hard pressed to quickly produce billions of dollars or even hundreds of million in actual cash. But we’re talking tens of millions or even just a few million dollars he needs right now.

snip

The only credible answer is that it is difficult or perhaps even impossible for him to produce these comparatively small sums. If that’s true, his claim to be worth billions of dollars must either be a pure sham and a fraud or some artful concoction of extreme leverage and accounting gimmickry, which makes it impossible to come up with actual cash. It’s true that he’s already loaned his campaign over $40 million, which at least suggests a substantial amount of liquid assets to draw on. But we’ve never really known where that money came from or whether it needs to be repaid to some other party.

Josh doesn’t mention what the rest of us have noticed; that the money he “loaned” his primary campaign was spent mostly on chartering his plane, renting Mar-a-Lago for events, buying hats from his own line or any other thing from “vendors” who are actually himself.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:37:31am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

Colbert was right! Can he revive the THREATDOWN on the Late Show?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:37:56am

re: #447 Eclectic Cyborg

Clearly we’ve pissed off the bears so much they’ve decided to strike back.

I, for one, welcome our new ursine overlords!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:39:25am

I suspect Donald is hiding hefty sums of money offshore somewhere.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:40:24am

Damn it…I went out to mow my lawn and as I brushed along my back fence a couple of the boards popped loose. So after finishing mowing I ran into the house to grab a hammer and some nails. I was pounding on some of the boards when all of a sudden I felt a sharp pain in my upper arm. I had my back to the fence and was pounding on a lower nail.

Ouch! Sure enough, a wasp got me. I saw him fly back to the fence and crawl between some boards where he must have a nest.

Sorry I disturbed you Mr. Wasp! Next time I will wait and do this at dusk when you should be not as active.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:40:25am

re: #448 gwangung

The Republicans could credibly accuse Sanders of being corrupt and unethical…and he has no answers for that. I doubt he could fend them off that easily.

The funniest thing I considered the other day is that, with all the love that Bros have lavished on Trump, running against him would quickly prove to be an absolute nightmare. I mean, how do they different Bernie and Trump when they’ve spent so much time arguing that one is acceptable to them if the other can’t be president?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:40:57am

re: #449 sagehen

The Real News is Trump is Broke
talkingpointsmemo.com

Josh doesn’t mention what the rest of us have noticed; that the money he “loaned” his primary campaign was spent mostly on chartering his plane, renting Mar-a-Lago for events, buying hats from his own line or any other thing from “vendors” who are actually himself.

He was running on free network advertising. And now his own party is unwilling to throw good money after bad…

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:42:39am
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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:43:02am

re: #455 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was running on free network advertising. And now his own party is unwilling to throw good money after bad…

At the time when he needs to be making good with the party to get their full support, he’s instead taking a big shit on their lawn and then strutting around like he just accomplished something amazing.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:44:04am
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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:45:16am

re: #449 sagehen

Cash poor. That’s his longstanding issue. For all the money he claims to have, it’s mostly sunk into real estate, which isn’t the most liquid of assets. He’s got licensing deals, where he’s able to slap his name on buildings and golf courses around the world without having to put up his own money.

It’s unlike Romney or other millionaires/billionaires who actually have liquid assets to work from (or are willing to part with them in any meaningful way).

Trump looks only for the way this benefits him - writedowns, loans, business losses, etc.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:45:20am

Lunch time!

Instagram

Happy first day of summer!!!!☀️☀️☀️ @justlayuh #feedyoursoull

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freetoken  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:45:30am

I think we just hit 100F… and it’s not even 11am yet…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:45:36am

‘God will finish the job’: Texas pastor prays for injured Orlando survivors to die

“These 50 sodomites are all perverts and pedophiles, and they are the scum of the earth, and the earth is a little bit better place now,” Romero said in the Sunday sermon. “And I’ll take it a step further, because I heard on the news today, that there are still several dozen of these queers in ICU and intensive care. And I will pray to God like I did this morning, I will do it tonight, I’ll pray that God will finish the job that that man started, and he will end their life, and by tomorrow morning they will all be burning in hell, just like the rest of them, so that they don’t get any more opportunity to go out and hurt little children.”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:45:56am
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Great White Snark  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:45:59am

re: #423 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I gotta read that. See how a factor of risk plays in. if you make cash deposits for your little store daily, you are more likely to get shot, as unarmed as the commuters around you.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:47:08am

re: #463 Charles Johnson

Iamfloorshitter is still available?

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:47:52am

re: #463 Charles Johnson

How many people want to poop on the floor?

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:48:06am

re: #462 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

‘God will finish the job’: Texas pastor prays for injured Orlando survivors to die

But remember, folks, only Muslims hate homosexuals so much that they’d want them dead.

//////

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Great White Snark  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:48:09am

re: #386 CuriousLurker

Exactly. Kagan wrote the other dissent, and she agrees:

Now imagine this decision under a president like Von ClownStick, who would undoubtedly appoint a J. Edgar Hoover type to run the FBI (and other federal agencies).

I’m with Kagan. Society should not diminish those restrictions that are a key check on Police powers. Must not, never ever end well. Thx for the heads up

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:49:06am

How odd.
Donald had a tweet early this morning (right before his Orlando tweet) bragging about how much money he raised in Texas and Arizona for the GOP.
It’s gone now.

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:52:13am

re: #460 Dr. Matt

Lunch time!

[Embedded content]

The burrito lady was just here. I said, ‘I’m leaning toward ‘no’, but whataya got?’ She rattled off about 50 things, and it was only two kinds, so I said, ‘The first one.’

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:53:57am

I wanted to check out Biden’s foreign policy speech via a link over at TPM. Looks like TPM’s got the same problem with video ads as Charles has with some here - zooming to a section of a page and not being able to navigate off. Gave up on the Biden speech.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:54:37am

Says guy who is now ex-adviser to Trump campaign.

Still wondering if that’s a step up or down for Lewandowski, let alone Trump.

Trump’s campaign is a mess, and you don’t go making these kinds of major changes unless there’s serious problems internally. There are, of course, major problems, not the least of which is that the candidate himself is highly unstable and can’t be controlled by anyone for any reason. He says and does stuff that makes no sense and rants without a filter or any relationship to reality or facts.

Lewandowski should have been done after the Fields incident. Trump kept him on until now. Why now?

Well, could be the Orlando gun comment mess. The NRA sitdown. Or that Trump’s kids, who couldn’t be bothered to register to vote, decided they wanted to take a more direct role in Trump’s campaign.

Everywhere you turn, the campaign is a mess - if you can even call it a campaign since they’re not working towards a national campaign with people in all states, or even battleground states, and they are operating with a skeleton staff, as compared to Hillary who has 100s of people working towards GOTV, which is everything in winning elections.

Trump and his team seem to think that they can BS their way to a win in November.

Or that they can pawn off the hard work of campaign nitty-gritty to the RNC, which isn’t in a position to do that kind of work.

All I can say is Faster Please.

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:55:50am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

How odd.
Donald had a tweet early this morning (right before his Orlando tweet) bragging about how much money he raised in Texas and Arizona for the GOP.
It’s gone now.

You thinking he’s gonna try to pocket the money? I’d put nothing past the guy, TBH.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:56:44am

re: #458 FormerDirtDart

Lewandowski now making it sound like they were all one big happy family and everyone loves each other and it was no big deal that he was fired. No one involved in this campaign appears even physically capable of being honest.

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KGxvi  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:56:45am

I just noticed something that I don’t think I’ve ever seen before. Trump’s press release referred to the “Donald J Trump Campaign for President” - I don’t recall ever seeing any other campaign use such branded language before. Or am I just misremembering?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:59:32am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

How odd.
Donald had a tweet early this morning (right before his Orlando tweet) bragging about how much money he raised in Texas and Arizona for the GOP.
It’s gone now.

Here’s the deleted tweet:

politwoops.sunlightfoundation.com

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:00:10am

re: #461 freetoken

I think we just hit 100F… and it’s not even 11am yet…

It says I’m at 113.

Just went outside to check, heh. I smell fire.

O_o

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lizardofid  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:00:10am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

How odd.
Donald had a tweet early this morning (right before his Orlando tweet) bragging about how much money he raised in Texas and Arizona for the GOP.
It’s gone now.

I think you’re on to something Sleuth. I followed Trump’s Dallas leg of his Texas trip. After flying in to Love field, he spent what seemed like maybe 30 to 45 minutes at a North Dallas hotel, for what was called a fund raiser, before heading down to his rally on the south side. There didn’t seem to be much to it. Maybe one of the other DFW area Lizards saw have a feeling about it.

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Great White Snark  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:00:20am

re: #464 Great White Snark

I gotta read that. See how a factor of risk plays in. if you make cash deposits for your little store daily, you are more likely to get shot, as unarmed as the commuters around you.

re: #423 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This is how people are led to a premature conclusion.

While it may be that the type of people who carry firearms are simply more likely to get shot, it may be that guns give a sense of empowerment that causes carriers to overreact in tense situations, or encourages them to visit neighbourhoods they probably shouldn’t, Branas speculates. Supporters of the Second Amendment shouldn’t worry that the right to bear arms is under threat, however. “We don’t have an answer as to whether guns are protective or perilous,” Branas says. “This study is a beginning.”

I self selected for being far more likely to get shot with my career. As a direct result , I’d like to carry on a work based as needed protocol. They have done nothing to assess risks other than the carry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:03:10am

re: #478 lizardofid

I think your on to something Sleuth. I followed Trump’s Dallas leg of his Texas trip. After flying in to Love field, he spent what seemed like maybe 30 to 45 minutes at a North Dallas hotel, for what was called a fund raiser, before heading down to his rally on the south side. There didn’t seem to be much to it. Maybe one of the other DFW area Lizards saw have a feeling about it.

It would appear, to a suspicious minded person such as myself, that Donald raised a pittance and somebody called him out about the big lie in the tweet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:07:34am

re: #460 Dr. Matt

Lunch time!

[Embedded content]

What’s that green shit in your grilled cheese sammich?
///

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Timothy Watson  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:08:11am

re: #481 Blind Frog Belly White

What’s that green shit in your grilled cheese sammich?
///

Looks like a vile weed to me.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:14:43am

re: #482 Timothy Watson

Broccoli…Vile Weed!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:25:48am

re: #483 GlutenFreeJesus

[Embedded content]

“Honey-mustard! Stat!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:38:46am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s the deleted tweet:

Embedded Image

politwoops.sunlightfoundation.com

Misspelled “was” as “wss”

He usually deletes typos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:39:50am

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

Misspelled “was” as “wss”

He usually deletes typos.

I know, but he didn’t tweet a corrected one this time.

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otoc  Jun 20, 2016 • 4:26:20pm

re: #155 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I still use Works for just about everything. I can copy and paste Word processor and spreadsheets to Word and Excel, but almost everything important is in the database application, and I’m at a loss how to convert it to Access. I have an idea but I don’t know if it will work, and some of these databases have 160+ fields and 16K+ lines. (They’ve been accumulating since 1997.)

I’ve a different opinion on your problem.

Here’s a MS link for converting Works to Excel.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Move-from-Microsoft-Works-to-Microsoft-Office-2010-73f356d2-90db-4672-ac10-6964b5910f61

At only 16K rows, you are well within Excel’s limitations of a million rows.

Once in Excel you can import it into Access, but I’d look at your table structure to see if those 160 fields can be split off into new work sheets before doing an import. Regardless, both Excel and Access can handle 160 fields.

Here’s how to import into Access, with the added feature of exporting queries back into Excel for reporting if you need it.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Exchange-copy-import-export-data-between-Excel-and-Access-a08efebc-da12-4e95-91e9-55c70ae42f4b

Perhaps Excel will be enough for your needs. If not, Access can certainly handle the small table you need to bring into it without needing to go into any of the SQL databases out there.

I’ve programmed Access apps that utilize tens of millions of rows in corporate environments, and the biggest problem is dealing with new versions of Office. Something I don’t get the impression is a deal breaker considering you are still utilizing Works.


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