Monday Night Jam: Trio Subtonic: “El Temblor”

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:08:12pm

#trumpsopoor is trending.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:10:29pm

re: #1 Stanley Sea

#trumpsopoor is trending.

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blueraven  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:15:42pm

Biden on PBS right now with Charlie Rose. Talking Trump and foreign policy.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:20:45pm

re: #1 Stanley Sea

#trumpsopoor is trending.

So he’s running his campaign like he runs his businesses?

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Great White Snark  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:21:35pm

re: #1 Stanley Sea

#trumpsopoor is trending.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:23:14pm

Just walked out & checked the full moon. Beautiful.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:24:47pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Hello Dark_Falcon! Can I interest you in voting for Hillary Clinton on 8 November?

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:25:27pm

I’m thinking that the disintegration of the R’s as a Party is too early to expect. The fact is, they have the control of enough State legislatures that they will direct redistricting on the State and local level for the US Congress and State Reps and Senators in 2020, perhaps beyond. And that means that the US House will be very slow to change.

Gerrymandering has legs. Texas is a 55-58% R voting state, but the State legislature is almost 70% R, and the US House even more lopsided. Even if the State goes to Hillary this cycle (Hah!) because Independents, Dems, disgusted suburban R’s, and a huge surge of black and brown voters (who finally go to the polls) vote against The Beast from Mar-a-Lago, the local State and US Reps, despite being ninnies, feebs, and mouth breathers, will still be re-elected.

On the State level, the R’s have had a better ground game since the mid-90’s nationwide. At the US HoR level, they’ll be OK. So I wouldn’t write off the R’s just yet.

Dammit.

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Brian J.  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:26:54pm

Please, let us have a new Era of Good Feelings!

So thoroughly had Monroe reduced party politics that he essentially ran unopposed in the 1820 presidential election. The Federalists ran no candidate to oppose him, running only a vice-presidential candidate, Richard Stockton. Monroe and his vice president Daniel D. Tompkins would have won reelection unanimously through the electoral college, had there not been a handful of faithless electors; one presidential elector cast his vote for John Quincy Adams, while a handful of electors (mostly former Federalists) cast votes for a number of Federalist candidates for Vice President. It would be the last presidential election in which a candidate would run essentially unopposed.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:27:10pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

Hello Dark_Falcon! Can I interest you in voting for Hillary Clinton on 8 November?

No.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:27:25pm

re: #8 austin_blue

They’ll almost certainly keep a 40 seat stranglehold on the Senate.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:27:52pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

Party First!!

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Brian J.  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:28:08pm

re: #11 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

They’ll almost certainly keep a 40 seat stranglehold on the Senate.

I doubt that it’d be hard to convince the Democrats to eliminate the filibuster if they have otherwise unified control of the government.

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:28:51pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

No.

Only thing for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing and all that.

Do you think fascism should be opposed, or are you going to sit this one out?

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:30:40pm
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Great White Snark  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:31:49pm

re: #14 Anymouse

Only thing for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing and all that.

Do you think fascism should be opposed, or are you going to sit this one out?

Just a thought. Working exclusively against Con Man Donald is a better thing than actually sitting all this out. Working for HRC need not be required right?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:33:01pm

DF, you can’t make the argument anymore that the GOP is the party of conservatism. So much of its agenda is reactionary, even radical. You simply can’t be a radical conservative.

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Great White Snark  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:33:56pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

Brown from the Azusa fire here. Kinda uglyish.

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:37:26pm

re: #16 Great White Snark

Just a thought. Working exclusively against Con Man Donald is a better thing than actually sitting all this out. Working for HRC need not be required right?

Well, unless the Libertarian Party somehow surges to overtake the GOP, we’re pretty much left with a two-party system, as we have been for the overwhelming majority of our history.

I am not sure how you can work against Mr. Trump without voting against him. And until such time as a new credible third-party arises, there is really only one other choice.

So yeah, if you “sit this one out” you are one of those doing nothing and allowing evil to triumph.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:37:35pm

re: #17 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I would make the argument that HRC is the conservative choice for President. Electing any Republican would lead to drastic changes to the country.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:38:34pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:42:57pm

re: #20 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

What do you think of Hillary being a center-right politician? I’d say she’s more center-left.

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Great White Snark  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:45:22pm

re: #19 Anymouse

So persuading (or busting ass trying to persuade) some number of people to not vote for Trump absent a inextricably linked promise to vote for HRC has no value in defeating Trump? I would posit you make the perfect an enemy of the good there.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:45:57pm
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blueraven  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:48:11pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

What do you think of Hillary being a center-right politician? I’d say she’s more center-left.

I think SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN is using conservative with a small “c”.
Yes, she is center left but the conservative choice for not disrupting everything right now. I think she is, like Obama, an incrementalist.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:48:12pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

I agree. My thinking about her is that the country would stumble along the path we’ve been taking for 16 of the last 24 years. It isn’t always ideal, but having some whackjobs come along and yank the steering wheel isn’t necessarily a conservative outcome.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:49:55pm

I’m a model, you know what I mean …

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:50:22pm

re: #20 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I would make the argument that HRC is the conservative choice for President. Electing any Republican would lead to drastic changes to the country.

I think the Burn and his bros will move the D’s platform to the left. Regardless of what you think of him, he made some palpable hits on Hillary’s positions, and rightly so. Elizabeth Warren, or someone of the same pragmatic Progressive bent, may be the future of the Party. In the meantime, HRC is the only transitional option, given that the House will will still be controlled by the fuckwits.

I guess I’d ask DF if he could actually hold his nose long and hard enough to pull the lever for the clown-penis sociopath rather than the comparatively statesman-like Libertarian candidate.

He seems nice.

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:50:34pm

re: #23 Great White Snark

So persuading (or busting ass trying to persuade) some number of people to not vote for Trump absent a inextricably linked promise to vote for HRC has no value in defeating Trump? I would posit you make the perfect an enemy of the good there.

I am a city councilmember (well, in a city of 128). Ethically, I don’t believe as a government representative I should encourage people not to vote. Too many people, both military and civilians throughout the nation’s history were injured or died trying to ensure the right to vote was protected and expanded to all.

As the only Democratic elected politician in my county, I can certainly endorse Hillary Clinton. (I doubt Mrs. Clinton would give a hoot about me endorsing her, but still.)

So I will hold forth on what I believe if asked (I think Mr. Trump is acting like a fascist), and why I believe that, but I will not encourage people to not mail in their ballots.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:53:14pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:54:37pm

re: #21 jaunte

Yep.

Been waiting for this to turn up.

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:56:05pm

re: #30 jaunte

That’s just mad, man.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:56:09pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:56:40pm

re: #26 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Hillary as President will be a good thing. The *woman* part of her having that much power will reverberate for generations to come. I’m sure of this. I heard Christopher Hitchens talk about women in power on a YouTube video and I read his treatise “God Is Not Great” and the most important things I can fathom in that YouTube *and* his book is that the whole of humans will live better lives if women are empowered.

EMPOWER WOMEN!!!

That’s my favorite concept.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:56:47pm

Fox’s Dana Perino: “This Is Actually A Good Pivot ” For Trump Campaign.
mediamatters.org

Keeping Up Appearances!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:56:54pm

Just as a bit of historical “what-if”, but what if HRC had held off Barack Obama in 2008? Could you imagine how powerful his campaign would have been now with an extra eight years as a leader in the Senate under his belt?

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:57:28pm

The Weekly Standard’s Steve Hayes: Trump Campaign Wants To Show It’s “About To Get Serious” And Firing Lewandowski Is “The Reset.”

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Lidane  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:58:18pm

re: #20 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I would make the argument that HRC is the conservative choice for President. Electing any Republican would lead to drastic changes to the country.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2016 • 9:58:34pm

HotAi r.com Senior Editor [AllahPundit] : Trump Fired Lewandowski To Signal Intention To Embrace “More Scripted, Disciplined Approach To Campaigning.”
mediamatters.org

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:00:05pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

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I want to move to a tiny house.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:00:48pm

re: #38 Lidane

People always be rippin me off.

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:01:03pm

re: #36 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Just as a bit of historical “what-if”, but what if HRC had held off Barack Obama in 2008? Could you imagine how powerful his campaign would have been now with an extra eight years as a leader in the Senate under his belt?

I suspect that after eight years of obstruction of Mrs. Clinton, they would still obstruct Mr. Obama. The party has been hijacked by its most extreme members, and until they do something about that, we get stuff like obstructing Supreme Court nominees.

They have been working for decades to break the government. They’ve succeeded with the Legislature, they are still trying to hold Mr. Obama to one term, and they are gumming up the Federal court nomination process in a way never done before.

I don’t think it would matter which order Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton went. They are not interested in either; they are interested in delegitimising government itself. They want a libertarian utopia like Somalia.

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Lidane  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:01:48pm

Heh.

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blueraven  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:01:58pm

re: #30 jaunte

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:02:19pm

re: #39 jaunte

HotAi r.com Senior Editor [AllahPundit] : Trump Fired Lewandowski To Signal Intention To Embrace “More Scripted, Disciplined Approach To Campaigning.”
mediamatters.org

But he demonstrably can not read from a TelePrompTer—so I don’t know how that’s going to work out.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:02:56pm

When in reality it looks like Lewandowski made the stupid mistake of going after Ivanka Trump’s husband and thus earning the wrath of someone who Donald Trump values more highly than Lewandowski.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:03:48pm

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Emperor’s clothes will always lead the hot fashion trend.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:04:43pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

What, did you think you would just take a powder and walk back in with a change of subject?

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:05:43pm

re: #37 jaunte

The Weekly Standard’s Steve Hayes: Trump Campaign Wants To Show It’s “About To Get Serious” And Firing Lewandowski Is “The Reset.”

Phhht. He has no money! No money, no ability to set the narrative. HRC and her PACs have just dropped a $22.3 million ad buy in seven battleground states….in June. Trump’s response?

<crickets>

He has no money, people. Dead in the fucking water. See those white lines in the water screaming toward your boat? Those are torpedoes. That’s not a good thing.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:06:01pm

It’s amazing to see people still pretending Trump has a master plan.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:06:13pm

re: #42 Anymouse

It never mattered whether Obama or Clinton was Prez in 2009. Either way, they would have blocked everything, and they’ll keep blocking everything for the next four/eight years.

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:06:16pm

On President Obama serving one term in the Senate:

The GOP has a president that did the same thing (Abraham Lincoln).

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:06:17pm

re: #37 jaunte

The Weekly Standard’s Steve Hayes: Trump Campaign Wants To Show It’s “About To Get Serious” And Firing Lewandowski Is “The Reset.”

haha, then the financial report was released. He’s fucked. At least for the next news cycle.

& I think this may be the time where all publicity is not good publicity.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:08:02pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

I want to move to a tiny house.

Yes, with an R-factor in the hundreds, concrete bunker style but classy.

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:08:08pm

Wife: The dryer stopped, are you going to fold clothes?

(Yes, ma’am.) Be right back… .

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:08:34pm

re: #42 Anymouse

I suspect that after eight years of obstruction of Mrs. Clinton, they would still obstruct Mr. Obama. The party has been hijacked by its most extreme members, and until they do something about that, we get stuff like obstructing Supreme Court nominees.

They have been working for decades to break the government. They’ve succeeded with the Legislature, they are still trying to hold Mr. Obama to one term, and they are gumming up the Federal court nomination process in a way never done before.

I don’t think it would matter which order Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton went. They are not interested in either; they are interested in delegitimising government itself. They want a libertarian utopia like Somalia.

After eight years of Hillary Clinton, it would be the Republicans’ “turn” now. Electing a blah man has driven the GOPers so insane that for better or worse, it’s no longer business as usual. We’d never be looking at hopefully 16 years of a Democratic White House if it had been the other way around.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:10:47pm

re: #48 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

What, did you think you would just take a powder and walk back in with a change of subject?

Yes, since I’m not willing to engage the previous subject.

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Nyet  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:11:14pm

Rukmini Callimachi has an insightful analysis of Mateen’s ISIS call and what it means about his radicalization.

Starting with

there are 58 tweets in the series.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:12:36pm

re: #52 Anymouse

On President Obama serving one term in the Senate:

The GOP has a president that did the same thing (Abraham Lincoln).

Lincoln served one term in the House. And some years before he ran for President. But John C. Frémont had no qualifications at all….

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:12:50pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

Yes, since I’m not willing to engage the previous subject.

Aw, c’mon, take a look at my #28. It’s a fair question.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:14:54pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:15:53pm

re: #59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Lincoln served one term in the House. And some years before he ran for President. But John C. Frémont had no qualifications at all….

And yes, I’m on a starting-sentences-with-ands-and-buts rampage! Don’t mess with me!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:18:24pm

listening to trump supporters, i get the distinct impression theyre voting for him out of the same impulse that makes 9 year old boys tie firecrackers on cat’s tails

theyre bored and they want to see if something interesting will happen if you do something dangerous

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:19:20pm

re: #60 austin_blue

Aw, c’mon, take a look at my #28. It’s a fair question.

Saying I’m not voting for Hillary Clinton does not mean I would vote for Trump. I’m likely just going to not cast a vote for president.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:21:42pm

re: #54 goddamnedfrank

Yes, with an R-factor in the hundreds, concrete bunker style but classy.

That’s how suburban houses are built in South India. Concrete with few windows. It’s very strange if you’re not used to it.

An interesting part of building science is that only recently have people really started talking about how there shouldn’t be a standard material profile for the manifold. A temperate-style house—built for both heating and cooling as needed by season—is just a pain to maintain in a place that’s tropical.

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Nyet  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:22:56pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

Saying I’m not voting for Hillary Clinton does not mean I would vote for Trump. I’m likely just going to not cast a vote for president.

So you’re like Switzerland in WWII. No kudos.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:23:48pm

re: #59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Lincoln served one term in the House. And some years before he ran for President. But John C. Frémont had no qualifications at all….

fremont was an adventurer with a keen sense of self promotion. iirc his greatest political asset was marrying the daughter of the prominent senator thomas hart benton

he “liberated” california but rather prematurely and the president made him give it back

all in all, however, a much nicer person than the trump thing

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:24:14pm

Oh damn, up too late again. Night all.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:24:16pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

Saying I’m not voting for Hillary Clinton does not mean I would vote for Trump. I’m likely just going to not cast a vote for president.

Not actively opposing Trump is the same thing as condoning his promised racial persecution and ethnic cleansing. That’s true of the Busters and it’s true of everybody who refuses to support the only person who’ll be standing in Donald’s way.

I know, it’s unfair, because stuff and things, principles or whatever. I don’t care. You either take an active stand against the kind of racial hatred Trump represents or you’re guilting of turning a blind eye to it, and turning a blind eye to racism perpetuates it.

Anyway you don’t need to respond because I don’t have any illusions that you’re really paying attention or persuadable, just talking past you as usual.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:24:54pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:26:17pm

re: #66 Nyet

So you’re like Switzerland in WWII. No kudos.

I’ll just be applying the same logic I apply to anyone in that position: no vote, no complaining.

It’s gonna be great.

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:26:48pm

re: #62 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And yes, I’m on a starting-sentences-with-ands-and-buts rampage! Don’t mess with me!

Book editor here: The Chicago Manual of Style, Edition XV (the official style guide of my publisher) notes the following on starting sentences with conjunctions:

Paragraph 5.191: There is a widespread belief—one with no historical or grammatical foundation—that it is an error to begin a sentence with a conjunction such as and, but, or, &c. In fact, a substantial percentage (often as many as ten percent) of the sentences in first-rate writing begin with a conjunction. It has been so for centuries, and even the most conservative grammarians have followed this practice.

Charles Allen Lloyd’s 1938 words fairly sum up the situation as it stands even today.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:26:55pm

re: #66 Nyet

So you’re like Switzerland in WWII. No kudos.

it seems if trump is nominated an entire chunk of the old republican party will be neutral, or, better, neutered

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:29:13pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Book editor here: The Chicago Manual of Style, Edition XV (the official style guide of my publisher) notes the following on starting sentences with conjunctions:

Paragraph 5.191: There is a widespread belief—one with no historical or grammatical foundation—that it is an error to begin a sentence with a conjunction such as and, but, or, &c. In fact, a substantial percentage (often as many as ten percent) of the sentences in first-rate writing begin with a conjunction. It has been so for centuries, and even the most conservative grammarians have followed this practice.

Charles Allen Lloyd’s 1938 words fairly sum up the situation as it stands even today.

I had a teacher long ago who insisted we could not begin a sentence with “and,” “but” or “because.” I’ve ignored her advice ever since.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:31:15pm

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I had a teacher long ago who insisted we could not begin a sentence with “and,” “but” or “because.” I’ve ignored her advice ever since.

The only rule I learned in school that I still actually follow is the one against one-sentence paragraphs.

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:31:42pm

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I had a teacher long ago who insisted we could not begin a sentence with “and,” “but” or “because.” I’ve ignored her advice ever since.

The same applies to ending sentences with prepositions. The famous quote attributed to Winston Churchill applies:

That is a rule up with which I will not put.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:32:17pm

re: #75 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The only rule I learned in school that I still actually follow is the one against one-sentence paragraphs.

Dialogue violates that all the time.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:32:55pm

re: #72 Anymouse

Book editor here: The Chicago Manual of Style, Edition XV (the official style guide of my publisher) notes the following on starting sentences with conjunctions:

Paragraph 5.191: There is a widespread belief—one with no historical or grammatical foundation—that it is an error to begin a sentence with a conjunction such as and, but, or, &c. In fact, a substantial percentage (often as many as ten percent) of the sentences in first-rate writing begin with a conjunction. It has been so for centuries, and even the most conservative grammarians have followed this practice.

Charles Allen Lloyd’s 1938 words fairly sum up the situation as it stands even today.

But Professor Irwin Corey’s “Nevertheless…” was stretching things a bit.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:33:14pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:33:56pm

re: #70 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So I grew up in a state where fireworks were NOT ALLOWED thank you very much and I still get wigged out when I see them for sale precisely because of reasons like this.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:34:55pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

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We’ve got thunder and lightning going on now, for whatever that’s worth.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:36:23pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

I do not agree with that, and even if I did it would not sway me. I despise Hillary Clinton and I have for decades.

I’m willing to accept whatever that makes me.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:36:33pm

re: #80 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So I grew up in a state where fireworks were NOT ALLOWED thank you very much and I still get wigged out when I see them for sale precisely because of reasons like this.

They’re only sold here in outdoor displays in the middle of parking lots. I can’t imagine them being inside a store. SMDH.

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:37:20pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

Saying I’m not voting for Hillary Clinton does not mean I would vote for Trump. I’m likely just going to not cast a vote for president.

There ya go. That’s an entirely sane position. Good for you.

You do know that she grew up in Park Ridge in a hardcore Goldwater Republican family, though, don’t you? Amazing how a bright light going off in a person’s head can lead to enlightenment, eh?

Has she made mistakes, errors in judgement? Hell, yes. But she has the best interest of the majority of the American people in mind based on her policy positions. And that includes you, DF. The R’s don’t really give a fuck about folks like you. They just give you lip service.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:38:03pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

I do not agree with that, and even if I did it would not sway me. I despise Hillary Clinton and I have for decades.

I’m willing to accept whatever that makes me.

It makes you someone who is willing to condone explicitly promised ethnic and religious cleansing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:38:51pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

I do not agree with that, and even if I did it would not sway me. I despise Hillary Clinton and I have for decades.

I’m willing to accept whatever that makes me.

Why, though? You realize all the right-wing vomit that’s been poured out at her (and Bill) for over 30 years are absolute lies, right?

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:40:35pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

I do not agree with that, and even if I did it would not sway me. I despise Hillary Clinton and I have for decades.

I’m willing to accept whatever that makes me.

Someone you dislike (for reasons unstated) versus a fascist. Sounds like a magic balance fairy argument to me. They are not the same, and I do not have to like a candidate to vote for a competent candidate.

If you don’t like fascist as the descriptor for Donald Trump, how about narcissist? Incompetent? Arrogant? Clueless? Those are also good reasons to vote against him rather than invoke the magic balance fairy argument they are both the same.

They are not. To abdicate voting against evil is to tacitly endorse it.

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blueraven  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:43:32pm

Meh, I am willing to accept DF or any hard core republican who will not vote for Trump but cant vote for Hillary.

It would be like asking me to vote for a Bush against some crazy ass Dem nominee. I doubt I could do that. The best I could do is not vote for the crazy Dem.

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Dark_Falcon  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:44:36pm

I’m not going to explain my antipathy for Mrs. Clinton because:

1. Its late and I need to get to bed.

and

2. All any such explanation will get me is yelled at and downdinged.

And so I bid you all Good Night.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:45:44pm
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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:46:00pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

I’m not going to explain my antipathy for Mrs. Clinton because:

1. Its late and I need to get to bed.

and

2. All any such explanation will get me is yelled at and downdinged.

And so I bid you all Good Night.

Well, I have never downdinged you. I also need to go to bed (trip to Cheyenne in the morning).

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:50:22pm

re: #88 blueraven

Meh, I am willing to accept DF or any hard core republican who will not vote for Trump but cant vote for Hillary.

It would be like asking me to vote for a Bush against some crazy ass Dem nominee. I doubt I could do that. The best I could do is not vote for the crazy Dem.

If by some inexplicable turn of fate the choice was between Bush and a hypothetical Democrat running on an explicitly racist platform of ethnic and religious cleansing I’d vote for Bush without blinking.

Because I’m not the kind of drone minded asshole that condones promised harm to racial minorities.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:51:21pm

re: #88 blueraven

Meh, I am willing to accept DF or any hard core republican who will not vote for Trump but cant vote for Hillary.

It would be like asking me to vote for a Bush against some crazy ass Dem nominee. I doubt I could do that. The best I could do is not vote for the crazy Dem.

If I could vote for Fritz Mondale, I can vote for anybody who’s not a Republican. I’m a single-issue voter now. “Not Republican” is my only requirement. Sucks, but here we are. They fucking ran fucking Ronald fucking Reagan, the D-list movie actor. For President! Trump is no worse than that.

And before somebody says he was Governor of California—so what? He shouldn’t have been within 100 miles of that job either. He was qualified for literally no elective office whatsoever. Just like Trump.

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blueraven  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:53:21pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

If by some inexplicable turn of fate the choice was between Bush and a hypothetical Democrat running on an explicitly racist platform of ethnic and religious cleansing I’d vote for Bush without blinking.

Because I’m not the kind of drone minded asshole that condones promised harm to racial minorities.

Well, admittedly in my scenario the crazed Democrat would not be a racist.

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:56:00pm

re: #87 Anymouse

Someone you dislike (for reasons unstated) versus a fascist. Sounds like a magic balance fairy argument to me. They are not the same, and I do not have to like a candidate to vote for a competent candidate.

If you don’t like fascist as the descriptor for Donald Trump, how about narcissist? Incompetent? Arrogant? Clueless? Those are also good reasons to vote against him rather than invoke the magic balance fairy argument they are both the same.

They are not. To abdicate voting against evil is to tacitly endorse it.

I’d give DF a pass on this. He has stated that he would prefer to sit the election out. That’s fair. If R’s and Independents leaning R do the same thing, it’ll be a blowout. I’d be happy with that.

I’d obviously be happier if R’s and R-leaning Independents would extrapolate from the available data to realize that local R candidates for State Legislatures, the US HoR, and the US Senate are also part of the Party that has embraced the sociopath from Mar-a-Lago and dumped the entire cohort of racist/teabagging fuckwits.

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teleskiguy  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:56:51pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

I’m not going to explain my antipathy for Mrs. Clinton because:

1. Its late and I need to get to bed.

and

2. All any such explanation will get me is yelled at and downdinged.

And so I bid you all Good Night.

Be honest! Use the nasty words you use when you think of Hillary Clinton and her supporters! It’s good from yours and our point of view, so we know what’s up. Let the hate bleed!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:56:56pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

I still think the idea that Trump is something distinct from the rest of the GOP is getting overplayed. His policy isn’t that far from the sixteen he beat; it’s his tone that’s troubling so many people.

I’m not going to cheer people who resist Trump in favor of Trump with better
composition skills and a pedigree, like Jonah Goldberg. I’m not going to cheer people who resist Trump because he’s not wearing the exact right kind of rhetorical fetishwear, like Kevin Williamson. I’m not going to cheer the people who resist Trump because he doesn’t tell other rich conservatives they’re smart and they smell good, like Mitt Romney. I’m not going to cheer people who resist Trump because he sells a different brand of snake oil, like Ted Cruz or Glenn Beck. I’m not going to cheer people who want a domesticated Trump for a stage show involved Fae Wray, like Mitch McConnell.

Because all of the above are still maneuvering to harness Trump…and, more importantly, harness the people who have so much anger and so little respect for democracy. And eventually they will get their Trump+ product manufactured and rolled out, and it will turn out exactly as good as those sharks the scientist Samuel L Jackson genetically engineered to be smarter and meaner.

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blueraven  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:57:05pm

Anyway, all these hypotheticals are making me sleepy.
Sweet dreams y’all.

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Anymouse  Jun 20, 2016 • 10:57:48pm

Wonkette weighs in on the sovereign citizen billboards that have popped up all over England, and did some of their own research.

wonkette.com

Quoting a solicitor there:

He adds: “It is nothing about law, and it is not harmless. Taking this daftness seriously can be legally dangerous. If people try to use such things to avoid their legal obligations they can end up with county court judgments or even criminal convictions. You may as well walk into court with a t-shirt saying ‘I am an idiot’.”

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BeachDem  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:10:49pm

re: #44 blueraven

Company Name: DRAPER STERLING LLC
File Number: 5896565
Filing State: Delaware (DE)
Filing Status: Unknown
Filing Date: December 2, 2015
Company Age: 6 Months
Registered Agent:
United States Corporation Agents, Inc.
300 Delaware Ave Ste 210-A
Wilmington, DE 19801

Interesting that the address in Londonderry, NH is a single-family residence. Wonder what that connection is. I know Lewindowsky (sp?) is from NH. Not his name listed as the resident though.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:12:14pm

re: #99 Anymouse

Wonkette weighs in on the sovereign citizen billboards that have popped up all over England, and did some of their own research.

wonkette.com

Quoting a solicitor there:

Sov cits don’t know they’re idiots. They truly believe all the stuff they’ve read about “common law” and local sheriffs being the highest law of the land — the US version. Considering the damage the Bundy bunch did at Malheur, it’s easy to diagnose idiocy as the cause of their behavior.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:13:27pm

re: #100 BeachDem

Interesting that the address in Londonderry, NH is a single-family residence. Wonder what that connection is. I know Lewindowsky (sp?) is from NH. Not his name listed as the resident though.

Apparently the Draper Sterling location is about a half-mile from Lewandowski’s abode.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:16:23pm

Gave up searching for a particular comment I could have sworn I read, once upon a time.

Moral of the story is, if a comment is something you ever think you might want to come back to, favorite it. Even if the use of the word favorite makes you feel weird.

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:21:32pm

Night all! Nice discussion tonight. Can I respectfully suggest that we not pile on to board members whose views are not consistent with the general concensus? If the comments are beyond the pale, that’s one thing, but respectful disagreement is a different thing.

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BeachDem  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:21:47pm

re: #93 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If I could vote for Fritz Mondale, I can vote for anybody who’s not a Republican. I’m a single-issue voter now. “Not Republican” is my only requirement. Sucks, but here we are. They fucking ran fucking Ronald fucking Reagan, the D-list movie actor. For President! Trump is no worse than that.

And before somebody says he was Governor of California—so what? He shouldn’t have been within 100 miles of that job either. He was qualified for literally no elective office whatsoever. Just like Trump.

And I always like to throw in James Garner’s quote about here:

“Ronald Reagan wasn’t qualified to be governor, let alone president. I was a vice president of the Screen Actors Guild when he was its president. My duties consisted of attending meetings and voting. The only thing I remember is that Ronnie never had an original thought and that we had to tell him what to say. That’s no way to run a union, let along a state or a country.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:23:36pm

re: #104 austin_blue

Okay, but there are members here who would be actively harmed by a Republican presidency/majority, and constantly being told that we should respect a viewpoint that’s okay with that gets a little old.

Just saying.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:25:38pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

2. All any such explanation will get me is yelled at and downdinged.

This happens because [1] you don’t argue, you repeat shit without thinking (see: your attempt to use Bork awhile back, which is a classic of the “don’t fucking read, just say this” form); [2] you fall back on standard wingnut insults when you feel uncomfortable; [3] you do that thing of imagining that your feelings and personal relationships lend stuff veracity, but nobody else’s feelings and personal relationships lend stuff veracity.

Oh, and [4] you want to both mock the base and use their support as a mandate, but not be called out on that contradiction, while [5] indulging in your own wingnut beliefs that you imagine are somehow superior because they come from the 90s.

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BeachDem  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:25:44pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

I still think the idea that Trump is something distinct from the rest of the GOP is getting overplayed. His policy isn’t that far from the sixteen he beat; it’s his tone that’s troubling so many people.

And as one Republican strategist pointed out:

“Trump’s stomach-churning behavior would be manageable if his poll numbers were holding up.”

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BeachDem  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:29:13pm

re: #102 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Apparently the Draper Sterling location is about a half-mile from Lewandowski’s abode.

Things that make you go hmmmmm

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:33:48pm

re: #106 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Okay, but there are members here who would be actively harmed by a Republican presidency/majority, and constantly being told that we should respect a viewpoint that’s okay with that gets a little old.

Just saying.

Oh, I agree! But advocacy doesn’t need to be toxic. That’s what the other side does, as is epitomized by the Trump style of politics. We should be better than that. Facts, facts, and more facts are useful weapons.

Granted, many folks are not interested in facts, and deny they are actually correct, but this is a fact-based community and you don’t have to be a dick to reinforce them. Just repeat them. Facts are facts. Eventually, the mouth breathers and fuckwits get that their arguments are hopeless and go away.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:41:07pm

re: #110 austin_blue

I’ve seen one too many BBL to think there’s any interest in facts, sorry.

If the behavior came from anyone else, a lot of people would have much less tolerance. Instead, we get lots of lectures towards those who have lost patience about how we should have more, never mind that some of those folks (again) would be harmed by the party he advocates for (rather mindlessly and sans any facts).

Again, your mileage can (and apparently does) vary. But I’m not going to lecture people who have reached out in good faith only to be ignored time and time again. Community is a two way street. I see very little assumption of good faith in the opposite direction, especially when it comes to treating the other side like human beings impacted by actions.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:43:02pm

re: #101 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sov cits don’t know they’re idiots. They truly believe all the stuff they’ve read about “common law” and local sheriffs being the highest law of the land — the US version. Considering the damage the Bundy bunch did at Malheur, it’s easy to diagnose idiocy as the cause of their behavior.

There was an episode of Newsradio where a kid was on trial for selling Jimmy James a bunch of fake memorabilia. One item was the skull of George “Goober” Lindsey. Lindsey takes the stand: “Mr. Lindsey, is this your skull?” Extends his hand: “May I?” “Of course.” Feels it all over with an intent expression, hands it back: “No.”

The judge raises the gavel: “I find the defendant…” The defense attorney says: “Tubalcain.” “…Not Guilty!” That’s how that’s supposed to work, I think.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:47:59pm

re: #111 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ve seen one too many BBL to think there’s any interest in facts, sorry.

If the behavior came from anyone else, a lot of people would have much less tolerance. Instead, we get lots of lectures towards those who have lost patience about how we should have more, never mind that some of those folks (again) would be harmed by the party he advocates for (rather mindlessly and sans any facts).

Again, your mileage can (and apparently does) vary. But I’m not going to lecture people who have reached out in good faith only to be ignored time and time again. Community is a two way street. I see very little assumption of good faith in the opposite direction, especially when it comes to treating the other side like human beings impacted by actions.

Indeed. One may have an honest disagreement with those who will disagree honestly. But it’s not clear DF even believes his own beliefs. He despises Hillary, because that’s what he’s supposed to do if he wants to remain a member of the only club he thinks will have him.

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Stephen T.  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:49:14pm

re: #80 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So I grew up in a state where fireworks were NOT ALLOWED thank you very much and I still get wigged out when I see them for sale precisely because of reasons like this.

I grew up in a state where fireworks were NOT ALLOWED, too. Because fireworks were cause of the fire that destroyed the largest city in the state. Yet, fireworks have been made legal here again. I’m expecting there to be destructive fires here as well.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 20, 2016 • 11:49:44pm

Anyway this was the best typo (assuming it was a typo) of the day by far.

And I should do my own version of be back later and call it a night, assuming I can wind down after crashing for a solid 8 hours of sleep last night. (Haha, that’s actually a lot …sob…)

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2016 • 12:03:02am

re: #107 The Ghost of a Flea

Booze Me up and Get Me High (Live)

Thank you, for your unpossible shit! You are truly a ghost of a flea.

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Danack  Jun 21, 2016 • 12:37:32am

Everyone’s focusing on the “Trump has no money” part - but his campaign is also apparently $40 million in debt, allegedly mostly to Donald Trump himself.

What type of rich person is going to donate to Trump, when it’s pretty clear that the next $40 million raised is just going to go to Trump’s pockets?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 12:59:38am

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

No.

The please tell us why Trump would be the better candidate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:02:55am

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

Saying I’m not voting for Hillary Clinton does not mean I would vote for Trump. I’m likely just going to not cast a vote for president.

You know,. in 2000 I could not bring myself to vote for Al Gore, so I swallowed my vomit and voted for Bush (something I regretted the moment I did so) but I felt that I had to vote for someone just to be able to discuss politics and not feel like a hypocrite.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:25:05am

re: #117 Danack

Everyone’s focusing on the “Trump has no money” part - but his campaign is also apparently $40 million in debt, allegedly mostly to Donald Trump himself.

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What type of rich person is going to donate to Trump, when it’s pretty clear that the next $40 million raised is just going to go to Trump’s pockets?

In other words, the true motives behind his campaign are just coming out: self-promotion and self-enrichment.

This is starting to look like a real-life version of “The Producers”…

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:30:25am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In other words, the true motives behind his campaign are just coming out: self-promotion and self-enrichment.

This is starting to look like a real-life version of “The Producers”…

Seems like an expensive way to do it if he can’t get anyone to donate to pay back the money he has lent the campaign.

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Anymouse  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:32:39am

Looking Under the GOP’s Hood | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS

Samantha Bee explains why the GOP cannot distance itself from Donald Trump (6:11)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:36:16am

re: #121 Timothy Watson

Seems like an expensive way to do it if he can’t get anyone to donate to pay back the money he has lent the campaign.

It has still produced a lot of advertising for the Trump brand, it is now right up there with Coca-Cola, Microsoft and Levis as one of the most recognizable national and international brands.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:37:34am

Good morning Lizards. 75 F at 4am here in Philadelphia.

Pretty early for me to be up, but I am doing prep for a medical procedure later this morning and have to drink another quart of vile polyethylene glycol solution in the next hour. Lovely stuff. (Enter appropriate political analogy here)

Feline Overlords are confused by early AM activity. They’re used to sleeping at this time and thus not demanding food or attention, just wondering what mischief the staff is up to.

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Anymouse  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:37:35am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It has still produced a lot of advertising for the Trump brand, it is now right up there with Coca-Cola, Microsoft and Levis as one of the most recognizable national and international brands.

All recognition is not good.

For a lot of people, the Trump brand is now one to avoid like the plague.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:38:50am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It has still produced a lot of advertising for the Trump brand, it is now right up there with Coca-Cola, Microsoft and Levis as one of the most recognizable national and international brands.

At $40,000,000 from his person.

If he had spent that much on a PR company it would at least be deductible as a business expense.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:39:44am

Note: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:42:56am

re: #126 Timothy Watson

At $40,000,000 from his person.

If he had spent that much on a PR company it would at least be deductible as a business expense.

That’s assuming he doesn’t manage to wring $40M+ out of the GOP in campaign funding after the convention.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:44:05am

re: #128 Feline Fearless Leader

That’s assuming he doesn’t manage to wring $40M+ out of the GOP in campaign funding after the convention.

And they won’t have a problem with him using that money to repay loans to himself instead of GOTV and ads?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:45:30am

re: #125 Anymouse

All recognition is not good.

For a lot of people, the Trump brand is now one to avoid like the plague.

Should he use it to market anything but a reality TV show, then it is full of negative connotations, but I believe that he sees his future as a media presence.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:46:07am

re: #129 Timothy Watson

And they won’t have a problem with him using that money to repay loans to himself instead of GOTV and ads?

They might have a problem with it - but I bet they give him the money anyways.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 1:51:27am
A D.C. man has been charged with murdering his ex-girlfriend after she told police she feared for her life.

The day after 40-year-old Stephanie Goodloe filed her third police report this month against her ex-boyfriend, police found her shot to death in her bed early Saturday morning.

Goodloe first went to file a police report against Donald Hairston, 49, on June 4 after he banged on the windows and doors of her home on Kentucky Avenue in Southeast, D.C. and she came out to find her car tires slashed, court documents show.

wtop.com

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 21, 2016 • 2:33:06am

re: #38 Lidane

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I note that the author of that piece didn’t mention that all the candidates running for GOP Presidential nominee are just as racist, anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic and unhinged as Trump. Trump doesn’t try, indeed can’t, hide that fact.

The others had many years of dissembling when the cameras are on them. So they’re better at hiding their evil.

But the only differences between them and Trump are like the differences between rattlesnakes and copperheads. That is mostly aesthetic although one is noisier that the other. If either bites you, you’re screwed.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 21, 2016 • 2:35:37am

re: #49 austin_blue

Phhht. He has no money! No money, no ability to set the narrative. HRC and her PACs have just dropped a $22.3 million ad buy in seven battleground states….in June.

I read on Facebook that one of Trump’s followers regards that as a positive. It shows, “Trump is a businessman and we need a businessman to save America.” I’m quoting verbatim.

o_O

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 21, 2016 • 2:39:04am

re: #70 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oi! Run, you idiots!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 2:41:43am

re: #133 Romantic Heretic

I note that the author of that piece didn’t mention that all the candidates running for GOP Presidential nominee are just as racist, anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic and unhinged as Trump. Trump doesn’t try, indeed can’t, hide that fact.

Most the others had at least some record of public service to refer to…Trump has only bluster and empty promises of what he thinks voters want to hear from him.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 21, 2016 • 2:56:47am

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel

Note: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949.

Happy Birthday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 2:58:21am

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel

Note: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949.

I removed my own birth date from Facebook because I do not wish to be reminded of it, but since you put it out there, Happy Birthday and all that…

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 21, 2016 • 2:59:07am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well, considering their idea of ‘public service’ is ‘There shouldn’t be such a thing as public’ I guess that’s true.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2016 • 3:01:44am

re: #49 austin_blue

Phhht. He has no money! No money, no ability to set the narrative. HRC and her PACs have just dropped a $22.3 million ad buy in seven battleground states….in June. Trump’s response?

<crickets>

He has no money, people. Dead in the fucking water. See those white lines in the water screaming toward your boat? Those are torpedoes. That’s not a good thing.

One thing I wasn’t aware of until just now is that there’s a huge difference between the efficiency of candidate spending and PAC spending. Candidates can buy ads at a much lower “preferred” rate whereas PAC have to pay the same going market rate that any business has to pay to promote their brand.

This will not help make up the astronomical gap between Clinton’s $42 million cash on hand and Trump’s $1.2 million cash on hand. Candidates pay the lowest unit price for advertising, while parties and outside groups pay the expensive going rate. This means that candidate money goes much, much further — as Romney, who leaned too hard on super PACs in 2012, learned the hard way.

I had never heard about this difference in ad rates before so I looked into it. It really only applies 45 days before a primary or 60 days before a general election, and technically only to Federal candidates but stations tend to give local candidates the same deal. Still, it means that should Clinton continue to out fundraise Trump, and unlike his campaign much of her fundraising apparatus already exists as sunk costs, she’ll have a massive advantage over him in ad buying power starting the second week of September.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2016 • 3:09:42am

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

Forgot to mention that another reason Clinton’s cash on hand number matters so much is that she can go back to many of those same donors for up to another $2700 each in the general election, because everything she has saved as of now is Primary money that rolls over. Once the general election officially starts every donor’s individual contribution limit resets because as far as the FEC is concerned it becomes an entirely new campaign.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 3:10:57am

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

Interesting read, wasn’t aware of the laws and regulations relating to that.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2016 • 3:14:07am

22 days ago.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 3:15:24am

re: #142 Timothy Watson

Interesting read, wasn’t aware of the laws and regulations relating to that.

This has been an interesting campaign to the extent that a lot of the primary rules and election funding rules have come to the foreground of people’s attention.

I have no problem with closed primaries, I think that one should decide on one’s affiliation well in advance of the campaign to reduce ratfucking. And remember, registering for a particular party does not imply any degree of support or membership, just a decision to participate in that party’s primary.

As for delegate selection, that is up to the individual parties. These are not election campaigns in the sense that we conduct them in November, rather they are more like a marketing survey to see which candidate has the most popular support. But there are other factors that go into selecting a candidate.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2016 • 4:00:16am

Here is Chuck’s latest sock account.

Damn the rules! A CCJ account for everyone!
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:16:06am

re: #34 teleskiguy

Hillary as President will be a good thing. The *woman* part of her having that much power will reverberate for generations to come. I’m sure of this. I heard Christopher Hitchens talk about women in power on a YouTube video and I read his treatise “God Is Not Great” and the most important things I can fathom in that YouTube *and* his book is that the whole of humans will live better lives if women are empowered.

EMPOWER WOMEN!!!

That’s my favorite concept.

Not sure if I agree with that. While it will be historic for a woman to be President and I love that, we already know that there have been some awful women leaders, i.e., Margaret Thatcher. It’s good that Clinton will be a left-leaning, sensible President and I am proud of her for accomplishing so much in the face of rightwing hostility.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:17:01am

Good dog, MSNBC talking heads must have said “pivot” at least 20 times over the last 5 minutes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:20:11am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

Good dog, MSNBC talking heads must have said “pivot” at least 20 times over the last 5 minutes.

and were probably chided by their bosses for not using it often enough…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:24:50am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

Good dog, MSNBC talking heads must have said “pivot” at least 20 times over the last 5 minutes.

Won’t make any difference in the long run. Trump will be Trump.

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LastYearsMan  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:25:19am

It’s like this incredible logic trap the GOP has set for itself. They have a moronic con artist for a (probable) nominee. But they can’t just give him the boot and move on to candidate No. 2 — Cruz is just as bad. And Kaisich or Paul Ryan may seem nicer, but their policies are pretty insane, too, and just giving the nomination to either of them would explode the party. Fascinating stuff.

And yet… And yet the GOP still owns so many state legislatures. Wtf is wrong with your country? I mean, I’ve seen some stupid local politics around the world, but the GOP is getting to Venezuela-level stupid.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:27:35am

re: #145 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

How many does he have out there now. Has @Suport shut any of them down or have they given up?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:29:16am

re: #150 LastYearsMan

It also works because they have gerrymandered the vote enough to guarantee them a majority of seats in places where they do not necessarily command a majority of votes.

And yes, there are places in America where people are poorly educated, poorly informed, bigoted and just plain stupid and proud of it.

America has a long history of anti-intellectualism, probably stemming from our cultural and intellectual inferiority complex regarding Europe. And although I admire individualists and out-of-the-box thinkers, it is like with music: you have to master a few chops before you can go all free-jazz and still sound like anything other than cacophony

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:33:59am

re: #151 Dave In Austin

How many does he have out there now. Has @Suport shut any of them down or have they given up?

I know a couple have been blocked already.

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:35:46am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:37:37am

re: #151 Dave In Austin

How many does he have out there now. Has @Suport shut any of them down or have they given up?

Counting the minions who have renamed their accounts, I think the total is up to 8 now, and when I checked about an hour ago, they were all still available to view, though nothing had been tweeted for several hours.

I’m not sure what his game plan is here. It just seems like he’s thumbing his nose at Twitter, while he directs people to gotnews and wesearchr.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:38:02am

re: #153 Dr. Matt

I know a couple have been blocked already.

Which ones? I know the ones he created on Friday and Saturday were shot down within a couple of hours. The slew he created Sunday are still there.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:42:26am

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

One thing I wasn’t aware of until just now is that there’s a huge difference between the efficiency of candidate spending and PAC spending. Candidates can buy ads at a much lower “preferred” rate whereas PAC have to pay the same going market rate that any business has to pay to promote their brand.

I had never heard about this difference in ad rates before so I looked into it. It really only applies 45 days before a primary or 60 days before a general election, and technically only to Federal candidates but stations tend to give local candidates the same deal. Still, it means that should Clinton continue to out fundraise Trump, and unlike his campaign much of her fundraising apparatus already exists as sunk costs, she’ll have a massive advantage over him in ad buying power starting the second week of September.

There’s another advantage she has, in that she can lock in ad buys earlier, which gives her campaign a better choice of inventory—better times and programming choices.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:43:09am

re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Which ones? I know the ones he created on Friday and Saturday were shot down within a couple of hours. The slew he created Sunday are still there.

Freethechuck and chuckcuckslayer

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:44:15am

Heh, trash for cash, that’s good.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:46:56am

SMH

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:48:56am

re: #158 Dr. Matt

Freethechuck and chuckcuckslayer

Those must have been his trial runs. The first one (which I missed) was apparently barn burner. The second was less bombastic. And this recent crop are just plain boring. They retweet stuff Chuck likes, or retweet stuff from the other socks, and all bring up gotnews and wesearchr. IOW, not only is he breaking the rules against multiple accounts with similar content and intent, but he’s using them as free advertising for his websites/businesses.

And so far @support has done nothing, and it’s already day 3. Might as well throw out the TOS, because the rules mean nothing now.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:51:43am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:52:08am

re: #117 Danack

Everyone’s focusing on the “Trump has no money” part - but his campaign is also apparently $40 million in debt, allegedly mostly to Donald Trump himself.

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What type of rich person is going to donate to Trump, when it’s pretty clear that the next $40 million raised is just going to go to Trump’s pockets?

Donald Trump loaned “rounds of golf” to the campaign but expects to be paid back in cash.

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2016 • 5:52:46am

I’m ready for my mother in law to move into her new condo…Leafy, her cat, has decided to upgrade himself to the master bedroom. That doesn’t go over so well with Conan and Craig…or Banjo. (He’s a bit of a dick of a cat)

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:02:42am

re: #161 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

@support has done nothing, and it’s already day 3. Might as well throw out the TOS, because the rules mean nothing now.

Those accounts have minuscule followings. Perhaps they’re just too small for @support to be concerned.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:04:21am
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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:05:03am

re: #160 Dr. Matt

4 way race? Who else are they polling with Trump and Clinton? Gary Johnson and Jill Stein? Because each of them will get ~1.

As it is, the pollsters are ratfucking the Clinton campaign by still running polls with Sanders in head-to-head with Trump. If they’re doing that, why not add Rubio and Cruz back into the mix, considering that both of them have the same chance at the nomination (near zero). Sanders has less of a chance at winning the nomination than Rubio or Cruz, whose chances are improving slightly given that the Trump campaign is essentially out of money.

His latest FEC filing shows next to no money on hand, and he’s got all of 30 staffers on the payroll. Yeah, some might argue that this shows the strength of his campaign that he did so on such a lean payroll, but that’s not how elections are won. You need GOTV, and Trump’s showing he’s nothing but a vaporware candidate who has convinced his supporters but no one else. The more people realize this, the more they’ll come around to Clinton.

Trump’s so poor (now a #TrumpSoPoor hashtag), he couldn’t pass the credit rating to get a place in his own buildings.

He’s so poor that he’s asking for yet another bailout.
He’s run his campaign like he ran his casinos. Right into the ground.

Now imagine if he had fired Lewandowski months ago for the Fields incident. That might have been a turnaround moment. Instead, he’s flailing about and no money on hand.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:07:22am

Oh my,

I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:08:50am

Trump’s campaign is going to suck the life out of down ticket races - he’s clamoring for a bailout from big money donors at a time when those donors would need to help other races. Trump’s toxic enough that candidates aren’t going to fundraise with and by him. That reduces their takes as well - and makes it more difficult.

All in all, a good thing. It improves the chances the Democrats retake the Senate. Still don’t think it turns into a wave with retaking the House, but there’s a bigger deficit to make up there.

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jeffreyw  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:08:57am

Imgur
Good morning!

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:10:22am

re: #165 Ace-o-aces

Those accounts have minuscule followings. Perhaps they’re just too small for @support to be concerned.

At some point, Twitter remembers that it’s just one red-headed asshole and can’t be bothered. If he doxes someone on Twitter (which he’ll probably do in a few weeks at most) he’ll get banned again. Until then, the only way I’ll hear about him is through LGF.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:16:48am

re: #162 I Would Prefer Not To

Sad.

The Trump Campaign Raised Less Money in May Than the Veronica Mars Movie Kickstarter

And that movie was worth every penny! (I admit it, I’m a Marshmallow.)

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plansbandc  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:21:51am

Trump son on GMA just a minute ago talking about how self-serving Hillary is.

FFS

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:23:19am
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BadgerB  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:24:15am

re: #167 lawhawk

He’s run his campaign like he ran his casinos. Right into the ground.

He runs his campaign like he ran his casinos, debts onto the books, cash-flow into his pocket. Its a business model that goes back at least as far as the old railroad barons. No matter how the business does, he ends up with all the money.

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:30:45am

I’ll mock his tiny hands but I won’t mock the poor to insult Trump

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:32:44am

Spoiler: He’s white.

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Joe Bacon  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:33:00am

Riding the bus to work. On comes a lady in a wheelchair plastered with Trump stickers shooting her mouth off about putting illegals in thier place…

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ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:38:13am

Morning!

So, around 6:00 am it sounded like Columbus was in the Battle of Britain or something. Low flying airplanes over my area of the city flying around and around. What the hell was going on…this!

Iframe

Yesterday I get stung by a freaking wasp…today buzzed by gypsy moth eradication planes. Bugs…bugging us.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:40:41am

I. CAN’T. STOP. LAUGHING.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:41:15am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

I. CAN’T. STOP. LAUGHING.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:43:17am

re: #165 Ace-o-aces

Those accounts have minuscule followings. Perhaps they’re just too small for @support to be concerned.

A fair point. His few hundred followers are spread out among several nearly identical accounts. He’s won a battle, but not the war.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:45:56am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

Me neither. And no, I don’t have an Elantra. lol

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:49:08am

Meanwhile, Reince is busy feeding the fishes.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:55:17am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 6:56:02am

TBogg passes on some great #TrumpSoPoor Tweets:

e.g.:

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:03:29am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:04:16am
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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:04:28am

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:07:06am

Castle Doctrine in action in Kentucky.

No doubt that this will be one of those incidents used to justify a private citizen’s use of deadly force.
Because it was easier to confront the thieves outside than calling the police.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:09:37am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:11:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:12:22am

Bet his speech will be at Trump Tower so he can charge more rent to the campaign.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:16:08am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I removed my own birth date from Facebook because I do not wish to be reminded of it, but since you put it out there, Happy Birthday and all that…

I refuse to put my birthday on Facebook. I send my sisters birthday cards so that it shows that I actually remember their birthdays rather than stumbling onto the reminder on Facebook. My 62nd is this Saturday. I’m going to spend it doing laundry and maybe going to the Twin City Pride festival. My first response to birthdays is to duck and cover.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:17:42am

Estimates Differ On When Trump Will Be Denounced As A ‘Liberal’

conservapedia preparing by yet again rewriting hitler article

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:21:01am

re: #195 stpaulbear

I refuse to put my birthday on Facebook. I send my sisters birthday cards so that it shows that I actually remember their birthdays rather than stumbling onto the reminder on Facebook. My 62nd is this Saturday. I’m going to spend it doing laundry and maybe going to the Twin City Pride festival. My first response to birthdays is to duck and cover.

My 64th is on Friday. Nobody ever remembers my birthday, except my mom and my financial adviser.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:21:12am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald Trump will be making a speech “regarding the election” tomorrow at 11amET in NYC, according to the campaign

everybody has been too mean to me so im gonna pull outta the race??

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:22:07am

re: #177 darthstar

Spoiler: He’s white.

He is assuming most won’t get past headline…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:22:22am

re: #198 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

everybody has been too mean to me so im gonna pull outta the race??

YOU KNOW WHO SHOULD HAVE PULLED OUT?

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:22:43am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

My 64th is on Friday. Nobody ever remembers my birthday, except my mom and my financial adviser.

Happy pre-birthday!

Have to say it now otherwise I will forget. :-)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:23:12am

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

Castle Doctrine in action in Kentucky.

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No doubt that this will be one of those incidents used to justify a private citizen’s use of deadly force.
Because it was easier to confront the thieves outside than calling the police.

Shoot first, ask questions later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:24:17am

LOLOLOLOL!

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:25:23am

re: #198 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

everybody has been too mean to me so im gonna pull outta the race??

I hope not. Someone needs to start whispering in his ear that the RNC is trying to take the nomination away from him, and that he’d be considered a wimp if he let it happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:25:56am

I am sure that a lot of people look at DT and simply think “He’s a frigging billionaire. Why does he need my money to get what he wants?”

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:27:33am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that a lot of people look at DT and simply think “He’s a frigging billionaire. Why does he need my money to get what he wants?”

I am sure a lot more will send him money.

There’s one born every minute.

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:27:58am

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

He must mean the first one, HE, PERSONALLY, has sent on behalf of the campaign. The campaign has sent out fundraising emails. They just sent one 3 days ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:29:11am

re: #207 Franklin

He must mean the first one, HE, PERSONALLY, has sent on behalf of the campaign. The campaign has sent out fundraising emails. They just sent one 3 days ago.

That’s what the email says.

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:29:13am

Is this the first matching funds technique ever used in an American election?

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:30:10am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s what the email says.

Definitely. But my guess is that isn’t how it means it to look. He wants the rubes to think “ZOMG TRUMP HAS MADE IT THIS FAR WITHOUT CAMPAIGNING FOR MONEYZ!!!”.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:32:05am

re: #209 Franklin

Is this the first matching funds technique ever used in an American election?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:32:22am

re: #209 Franklin

Is this the first matching funds technique ever used in an American election?

First I’ve ever heard of a candidate doing it.

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:33:47am

I wonder if GoFundMe will reject his fundraiser.

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:33:50am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s what the email says.

Or I’m reading into it too much and picking it apart because he is a clown that wears Cheetos™ Flavored Foundation.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:34:18am

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

Castle Doctrine in action in Kentucky.

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No doubt that this will be one of those incidents used to justify a private citizen’s use of deadly force.
Because it was easier to confront the thieves outside than calling the police.

This is the only way “defending yourself” with all these guns people insist on accumulating for that purpose can possibly work. You need to shoot first. Shoot at every noise, shoot at every shadow. Shoot early and often. If you wait for someone to actually attack you, they will always have the drop on you. Always.

Keeping the safety off isn’t good enough. Keeping your finger on the trigger isn’t good enough. 360º vision isn’t good enough. Instantaneous reflexes aren’t good enough. They’ll always know what they’re about to do before you see them do it. Always. You need to shoot anybody or anything that makes you the least bit apprehensive. And shoot to kill!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:35:46am

A Kentucky man burst into a mosque during worship services and began shouting about Jesus.

Luke Michael Roberts, of Elsmere, was charged with theft, impersonating an officer, criminal trespassing and disturbing a lawful meeting after police said he entered the Islamic Center of Greater Cincinnati and disrupted prayer services, reported WCPO-TV.

Police said Monday the 37-year-old Roberts entered the mosque in West Chester Township, Ohio, about 11:25 p.m. June 14 — two days after a deadly shooting in Orlando — and shouted “Jesus is lord” while Muslims prayed.

sigh…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:37:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:38:49am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

A Kentucky man burst into a mosque during worship services and began shouting about Jesus.

because we have been taught that the “clash of cultures” is Christianity vs Islam

rather than fundamentalist theocracy vs secular democracy

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:39:14am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe he was shouting “Jesus is Lorde.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:39:54am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone has raised the Mexican flag on the border of Trump’s wildly unpopular golf course near Aberdeen

Now even SCOTLAND has a problem with illegals from Mexico!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:40:09am

re: #219 Belafon

Maybe he was shouting “Jesus is Lorde.”

and Taylor

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:42:25am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sigh…

Dude looks more like an ISIS kingpin than an American cop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:42:37am

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A utility company and environmental groups have reached an agreement that will close California’s last nuclear power plant, ending the state’s nuclear power era.

The state’s largest utility, Pacific Gas & Electric Co., and the groups said Tuesday that the Diablo Canyon plant will close by 2025. The accord would resolve disputes about the plant that helped fuel the anti-nuclear movement nationally.

The 30-year-old plant supplies 9 percent of California’s annual power. The agreement will replace it with solar power and other forms of renewable energy.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:43:12am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

Man pretending to be a cop barges into Muslim prayer service and screams ‘Jesus is lord’ t.co pic.twitter.com
— Raw Story (@RawStory) June 21, 2016

If a Muslim did this during a Christian service, he would have been labeled a terrorist and “uber radical Islamic extremist”

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:44:04am

re: #219 Belafon

That’s Royal!

Lorde - Royals (US Version)

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:44:43am

re: #184 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

‘Money is not a problem’: Trump’s former ‘Bedazzler’ spokesperson goes Baghdad Bob on CNN

With the revelation of Trump’s miserable campaign finances, he has proven once-and-for-all that HE IS a fiscal conservative.

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:44:49am

re: #224 Dr. Matt

If a Muslim did this during a Christian service, he would have been labeled a terrorist and “uber radical Islamic extremist”

He would have been shot, unfortunately.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:45:17am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

My 64th is on Friday. Nobody ever remembers my birthday, except my mom and my financial adviser.

My insurance man always sends a birthday greeting.

My mom passed away from leukemia 13 years ago on my older sister’s 50th birthday (July 7). About a week after the funeral I was back at work and called home to check my phone messages. I’d forgotten that one of the messages on the tape was my mom calling to wish me a happy birthday. I had to go out into the stairwell for about 20 minutes…

One of my younger sisters died one day before her 50th birthday. After her death, when my birthday was approaching, I found myself thinking to myself ‘please don’t get into any situations that would result in death on your birthday. Death on birthdays doesn’t need to be a family tradition’.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:45:17am

re: #227 Franklin

He would have been shot, unfortunately.

Very likely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:46:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:46:25am

re: #227 Franklin

He would have been shot, unfortunately.

And SYG would have applied, because all that it needed is to demonstrate that one felt threatened. And a Jihadi in a church would have fit the bill entirely…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:47:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:50:08am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Remember, Islamist terrorists kill more Muslims than they do Americans…so if you are a true Islamophobe, you should be supporting Jihad!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:50:29am

He’ll start by reading a prepared speech (written by Ivanka or Jared) off a teleprompter but then go off on his own and start rambling incoherent bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:51:15am

re: #198 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

everybody has been too mean to me so im gonna pull outta the race??

Apparently not:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:52:30am

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

I will be making a big speech tomorrow to discuss the failed policies and bad judgment of Crooked Hillary Clinton.

Something Hillary cannot do: give a speak discussing his policies and history of public service. She can only address his bad judgement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:52:46am

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

He’ll start by reading a prepared speech (written by Ivanka or Jared) off a teleprompter but then go off on his own and start rambling incoherent bullshit.

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I love it when he uses the teleprompter because he starts debating with what’s written there, goes on to another topic, and then always loses track of where he left off.

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Jay C  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:54:55am

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

He’ll start by reading a prepared speech (written by Ivanka or Jared) off a teleprompter but then go off on his own and start rambling incoherent bullshit.

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So I wonder what Hillary and/or her campaign is going to do to bigfoot Trump’s stupid screed?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:55:26am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

I will be making a big speech tomorrow to discuss the failed policies and bad judgment of Crooked Hillary Clinton.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2016

Hopefully he’s wearing a MAGA hat because nothing is more presidential than saying “Crooked Hillary Clinton” while wearing a China-made trucker hat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:56:04am

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — A Republican candidate for Congress in Florida has launched a contest on his Facebook campaign page to give away a semi-automatic rifle on Independence Day.

Greg Evers said Monday that he is giving away an AR-15, because terrorist incidents are on the rise. The announcement comes barely a week after a shooting at a gay nightclub killed 49 people in Orlando, which is about five hours drive from the Florida Panhandle congressional district Evers seeks to represent.

snip

Evers is one of five candidates running in the Aug. 30 Republican primary for the seat being vacated by Rep. Jeff Miller. Evers’ chief rival is state Rep. Matt Gaetz, who has also received an A-plus grade from the NRA.

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Donkey With No Name  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:57:48am

re: #225 lawhawk

I always wish it were Foil instead:

“Weird Al” Yankovic - Foil

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:58:05am

Good morning.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:59:36am

re: #239 Dr. Matt

The hats are made in Newark NJ. Which shows that he could actually have had his clothing line made in the US. He just chose not to do so since it would reduce his profits.

He couldn’t do that with his campaign swag since that’d be real bad.

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withak  Jun 21, 2016 • 7:59:54am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently not:

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Wow, he spelled “judgment” correctly. Interns must have learned how to use spellcheck.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:00:51am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love it when he uses the teleprompter because he starts debating with what’s written there, goes on to another topic, and then always loses track of where he left off.

I love it when Trump announces that he’ll be delivering a serious address but can’t stop himself from adding the juvenile “Crooked Hillary’ to the announcement. He is incapable of being an adult.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:01:00am

re: #226 Dr. Matt

Stolded that.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:01:04am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently not:

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ha

i like the way he explains it in Dick and Jane level syntax

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:02:54am
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jeffreyw  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:03:02am

re: #242 Feline Fearless Leader

Back atcha!

Imgur

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ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:03:54am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

First I’ve ever heard of a candidate doing it.

Next you know he will offer Trump savings stamps with every donation. After the election you will be able to turn them in for Trump goods like Trump Wine, Trump Steaks, Trump Golf course fees, discounts on overnight stays in Trump properties, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:05:00am

re: #250 ObserverArt

Next you know he will offer Trump savings stamps with every donation. After the election you will be able to turn them in for Trump goods like Trump Wine, Trump Steaks, Trump Golf course fees, discounts on overnight stays in Trump properties, etc.

Shipping and handling fees apply, however…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:06:03am

Heh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:08:09am

This harridan just will not go away.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:10:40am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:11:45am
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Skip Intro  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:15:33am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, there goes our already built desalinization plant. I guess with Trump “opening the waters” we don’t need it any more.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:15:38am

Everybody poops.

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ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:19:03am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shipping and handling fees apply, however…

Of course!

$20 to mail out one page of savings stamps and a booklet to keep them in. They are great stamps. The Greatest saving stamps.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:20:12am

re: #258 ObserverArt

Of course!

$20 to mail out one page of savings stamps and a booklet to keep them in. They are great stamps. The Greatest saving stamps.

So many stamps, you’ll be sick of stamps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:22:57am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:25:20am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Was it yesterday that there was a story that he promised staff to call 25 donors and thank them and managed to make through 5 calls before quitting?

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Skip Intro  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:25:56am

re: #261 Timothy Watson

I think he made it to three. It’s hard to dial when your fingers are so small.

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sagehen  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:29:19am

re: #261 Timothy Watson

Was it yesterday that there was a story that he promised staff to call 25 donors and thank them and managed to make through 5 calls before quitting?

He made 3 calls, after promising he’d do 20.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:30:54am

re: #257 The Vicious Babushka

I loved that show Meet the Sloths. It was fascinating, especially for someone like me who knew next to nothing about them.

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:37:33am
Apple has opened registration in the U.S. and a number of other countries (links below) for its annual Apple Summer Camp, where kids aged 8 to 12 can attend a company retail store and learn how to create interactive books and movies using Apple products and software, ranging from iBooks Author on Mac to iMovie on iPad.

This year’s free workshops are called “Stories in Motion with iMovie” and “Interactive Storytelling with iBooks.” A third workshop will be offered in the United States, Canada, and United Kingdom called “Coding Games and Programming Robots,” in which kids will learn visual block-based coding for games, apply logic skills and problem solving, learn to program their own robots, and more.

forums.macrumors.com

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sagehen  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:39:24am

Is it free?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:40:06am
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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:42:00am

re: #266 sagehen

Is it free?

It is

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:42:44am

re: #266 sagehen

Is it free?

I just updated the post to reflect this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:44:57am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:45:08am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It might be good to hear this, but he lives in a world dominated by backdoor/under-the-table dealing. His normal is our felony, so I don’t want to be blindsided by the public disclosure.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:45:21am

re: #258 ObserverArt

Of course!

$20 to mail out one page of savings stamps and a booklet to keep them in. They are great stamps. The Greatest saving stamps.

For me, right now, these are the greatest stamps (along with the new planet ones).

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:45:44am

The three individuals, two men in their 50s and a woman in her 30s who may be from Pennsylvania, were stopped on the New Jersey side of the tunnel around 8 a.m., authorities said. A search of their vehicle revealed the weapons cache.
The guns seized included long-range weapons as well as handguns. A camouflage helmet with what appeared to be night goggles was also recovered.
The Joint Terrorism Task Force is assisting in the investigation, a source familiar with the investigation tells NBC 4 New York.

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Skip Intro  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:45:49am
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Skip Intro  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:46:55am

re: #273 lawhawk

Obviously they’re just a well regulated militia. No story here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:47:21am

oh good grief

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:49:08am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:49:28am

re: #273 lawhawk

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You could drive all that stuff legally through any tunnel in Alabama, if we had any tunnels.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:52:24am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s almost like they are begging to be shot at. Why is the restriction on guns in DC in effect?

I’d almost give them a Please Proceed, but a lot of people will be put in danger. Which is how they like it.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:53:10am

re: #272 stpaulbear

For me, right now, these are the greatest stamps (along with the new planet ones).

I haven’t seen those!! I just went to the post office & all they had that were cute were the cherry blossom DC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:53:33am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BTW, that’s my congresscriter on the left in the photo.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:53:46am

re: #273 lawhawk

…when police stopped them for driving with a cracked windshield, authorities tell NBC 4 New York.

It was probably the force of their own hate and paranoia that cracked the windshield.

Is it common for people to get pulled over for that or were the cop’s interest piqued by something else and used the windshield as an excuse? Glad they were stopped.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:53:51am

re: #279 MsJ

It’s almost like they are begging to be shot at. Why is the restriction on guns in DC in effect?

I’d almost give them a Please Proceed, but a lot of people will be put in danger. Which is how they like it.

Can D.C. secede from the union? Talk about taxation without representation!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:54:29am

re: #279 MsJ

It’s almost like they are begging to be shot at. Why is the restriction on guns in DC in effect?

I’d almost give them a Please Proceed, but a lot of people will be put in danger. Which is how they like it.

The United States Capitol shooting incident of 1954 was an attack on March 1, 1954, by four Puerto Rican nationalists; they shot 30 rounds from semi-automatic pistols from the Ladies’ Gallery (a balcony for visitors) of the House of Representatives chamber in the United States Capitol. They wanted to highlight their desire for Puerto Rican independence from US rule.

en.wikipedia.org

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Skip Intro  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:54:36am
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Great White Snark  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:55:34am

… Post misfire

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:56:00am

re: #284 Decatur Deb

The United States Capitol shooting incident of 1954 was an attack on March 1, 1954, by four Puerto Rican nationalists; they shot 30 rounds from semi-automatic pistols from the Ladies’ Gallery (a balcony for visitors) of the House of Representatives chamber in the United States Capitol. They wanted to highlight their desire for Puerto Rican independence from US rule.

en.wikipedia.org

Exactly. It’s like they want to release the Kracken.

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Great White Snark  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:56:04am
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Teukka  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:56:49am

re: #282 stpaulbear

It was probably the force of their own hate and paranoia that cracked the windshield.

Is it common for people to get pulled over for that or were the cop’s interest piqued by something else and used the windshield as an excuse? Glad they were stopped.

People who are fanatical terrorists tend to care very little about law. Also, there is a significant overlap between organized crime and terrorism.

I personally see terrorism as a form of organized crime.

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:57:31am

re: #282 stpaulbear

It was probably the force of their own hate and paranoia that cracked the windshield.

Is it common for people to get pulled over for that or were the cop’s interest piqued by something else and used the windshield as an excuse? Glad they were stopped.

If it can obstruct your view, then yes, they can pull you over. It similar to being pulled over for a headlight being out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:58:11am

re: #287 MsJ

Exactly. It’s like they want to release the Kracken.

Armed rioting in the streets of Washington, DC, is something they can spin to support their narrative…

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:58:18am

re: #282 stpaulbear

It’s the initial report about the arrest. Sure that the details will come out down the road.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:58:36am

re: #282 stpaulbear

Is it common for people to get pulled over for that or were the cop’s interest piqued by something else and used the windshield as an excuse? Glad they were stopped.

Oh yes, pretextual stops are common and completely legal as long as there is some kind of probable cause to justify the stop.

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Ming5000  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:58:36am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

For some reason that picture gives me the sads.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 8:59:38am

re: #274 Skip Intro

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$115K in fake Twitter accounts, because what other online activity has anyone seen?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:00:23am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:00:23am

re: #294 Ming5000

An emu runs to escape an approaching wildfire as it burns near Potrero, California

For some reason that picture gives me the sads.

Are you an emo feeling some sense of sympathy and identification?

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:00:38am

re: #280 Stanley Sea

I haven’t seen those!! I just went to the post office & all they had that were cute were the cherry blossom DC.

I bought Paul Newman stamps last time I was at the post office. I just hate to use them to actually mail letters.

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:00:42am

re: #294 Ming5000

For some reason that picture gives me the sads.

When I saw it, I thought “Run, Emu! Run!” just wanting it to escape.

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Skip Intro  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:01:22am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

$115K in fake Twitter accounts, because what other online activity has anyone seen?

$35k to Draper Sterling LLC for advertising. He’s not even trying to hide the con any more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:01:31am

re: #294 Ming5000

For some reason that picture gives me the sads.

me, too.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:01:50am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

BTW, that’s my congresscriter on the left in the photo.

My sympathies.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:01:59am

re: #299 William Lewis

When I saw it, I thought “Run, Emu! Run!” just wanting it to escape.

A fleeing sloth would be sadder.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:03:19am

re: #272 stpaulbear

For me, right now, these are the greatest stamps (along with the new planet ones).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:04:40am

re: #298 BeachDem

I bought Paul Newman stamps last time I was at the post office. I just hate to use them to actually mail letters.

don’t they belong on your salad?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:06:05am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:06:52am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:06:57am

Trump Children Announce They Have Father Under Control Now

i know it sounds like a joke but andrea mitchell just said it on tee vee

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:07:32am

pAtqbv6Omg/Skw202CvqMgHooa6Tm5Yw10CrmvgkuLGjmYFfnRf+QzbzKdw950vTq6++OBuS0RSbIzGjH2xm0COABHUrUwF927x3invX48dNoqfWFTskL7i85VMJ5d+rRDCRKDkPAA+BWbjai3XrBu8Qy5llJ7OAIvsfPy2dZLA=

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:07:34am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:08:21am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

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That’s “down the river”, you moron. I hate when people not only talk in clichés, but can’t even get them right! Grr.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:08:39am

re: #307 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Trump’s running mate, folks:

Maine’s Tea Party Gov. has another tantrum — and this time he might eliminate food stamps for good

Wrong link.

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Skip Intro  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:08:49am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

In another video, Trump called himself a “tremendous believer” and reiterated his pledge to make department stores like Macy’s post signs saying “Merry Christmas.”

rightwingwatch.org

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:08:56am

re: #304 Timothy Watson

Pluto has it’s own new stamp. The homely little non-planet that becomes famous!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:09:13am

re: #311 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s “down the river”, you moron. I hate when people not only talk in clichés, but can’t even get them right! Grr.

He knows how to take the bull by the horns of a dilemma

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:09:47am

re: #307 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Trump’s running mate, folks:

Maine’s Tea Party Gov. has another tantrum — and this time he might eliminate food stamps for good

Link is to a different story.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:10:12am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

don’t they belong on your salad?

Salad, pizza, chips and salsa—and perhaps my pillow. What’s not to like?

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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:10:35am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

First I’ve ever heard of a candidate doing it.

I get calls from Dem organziations. They match and even double-and triple-match all the time.

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ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:10:45am

re: #294 Ming5000

For some reason that picture gives me the sads.

Me too. I feel for the people of California and all the animals that get displaced by the fires. The image just brings it all to light.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:10:54am

re: #312 MsJ

Wrong link.

Oops. Fixed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:11:54am

bwahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!

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ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:12:58am

re: #296 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Video

She is at Fort Hayes Career Center. It’s an old Army base/recruit processing center that was turned into an arts and special careers school.

And as I type Hillary is explaining it…

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:13:11am

re: #313 Skip Intro

rightwingwatch.org

In another video, Trump called himself a “tremendous believer” and reiterated his pledge to make department stores like Macy’s post signs saying “Merry Christmas.”

Does this guy have a single fucking clue what the powers of the President entail? (Rhetorical question.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:13:13am

re: #319 ObserverArt

Me too. I feel for the people of California and all the animals that get displaced by the fires. The image just brings it all to light.

And the poor emu’s what…10,000 miles from home?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:15:03am

SMOTI is completely ignoring the campaign cash issue==>

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:15:04am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!

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And…it’s half a mile from Corey Lewandowski’s house.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:15:05am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!

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And Trump has the nerve to call Hillary “crooked”.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:15:47am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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snip

I hope the new owner realizes that, being an AR-15, will need to be cleaned after spending the twenty minutes out of doors required to take that picture.

Otherwise there will be an accident.

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ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:16:48am

re: #317 BeachDem

Salad, pizza, chips and salsa—and perhaps my pillow. What’s not to like?

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From me as an auto racing fan PLN was a great driver and race team owner. Newman Haas Racing had many an Indycar championship with Mario and Michael Andretti. And he always stood on the good side of the Openwheel (Indy car) Wars of the late 20th Century.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:17:51am

re: #322 ObserverArt

She is at Fort Hayes Career Center. It’s an old Army base/recruit processing center that was turned into an arts and special careers school.

And as I type Hillary is explaining it…

Why are you typing instead of being there??

(Fort Hayes is very cool. Several of my friends’ kids went there for the theater program.)

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:18:08am

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

So seriously- @HillaryClinton, who never created a job in her life, is going to trash billionaire @RealDonaldTrump on job creation? Really?
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) June 21, 2016

Hiring people to work at his countless failed companies is now considered “job creation”.

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:18:55am

NY Officials now saying the three arrested were “gun enthusiasts” and not terror related.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:18:58am

re: #331 Dr. Matt

Hiring people to work at his countless failed companies and then not paying them is now considered “job creation”.

ftfy

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:19:39am

re: #323 BeachDem

Does this guy have a single fucking clue what the powers of the President entail? (Rhetorical question.)

His brownshirts will take care of any businesses that are out of line.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:19:55am

Hill is stalking about Trump’s economic plans now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:19:58am

re: #326 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And…it’s half a mile from Corey Lewandowski’s house.

I can’t believe that they used an actual street address instead of a business maildrop, like everyone else does.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:20:53am

“He shouldn’t have his [tiny little] hands on the economy”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:21:17am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:21:23am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t believe that they used an actual street address instead of a business maildrop, like everyone else does.

Gotta elect the GOP—they’re the grownups in the room….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:21:53am
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Stanley Sea  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:22:13am

re: #300 Skip Intro

$35k to Draper Sterling LLC for advertising. He’s not even trying to hide the con any more.

Here’s an in depth story about Draper Sterling. It’s a freaking scam.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:22:23am

re: #338 The Vicious Babushka

“If you’re running for president, you should say what you want to do, how you’re going to pay for it, and how you’ll get it done.” —Hillary

He already said that Mexico is going to pay for the wall and that China is going to write down our national debt…

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:23:11am

re: #307 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He’s pissed that the feds didn’t approve his waiver to start a pilot project to ban food stamps for certain food and food products - candy and other junk food like potato chips from being paid for with food stamps.

wcsh6.com

So, because the feds didn’t give him approval, he’s looking to end the state’s participation in food stamps altogether.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:24:07am

re: #329 ObserverArt

From me as an auto racing fan PLN was a great driver and race team owner. Newman Haas Racing had many an Indycar championship with Mario and Michael Andretti. And he always stood on the good side of the Openwheel (Indy car) Wars of the late 20th Century.

He pretty much stood on the good side of everything imo (and looked damn good doing it.) He and Joanne were really generous to Kenyon College too. I remember when they founded/supported the theater there back in the day, and they continued with support and scholarships all along.

I truly adored Paul Newman.

Edit to fix brain fart—Joanne, not Diane.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:24:08am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t believe that they used an actual street address instead of a business maildrop, like everyone else does.

Mail drops cost money. Trump et al are too cheap.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:24:46am

re: #338 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, BERNIE!

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:25:01am

re: #341 Stanley Sea

Here’s an in depth story about Draper Sterling. It’s a freaking scam.

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Either way, they’re going to be getting a cease and desist from AMC in a couple days.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:25:16am

re: #327 Dr. Matt

And Trump has the nerve to call Hillary “crooked”.

Repeat it enough times and you get your supporters to believe. The GOP has been peddling that line since before Whitewater, and it’s stuck. He’s just using it as a trigger word.

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:29:04am

[…]

From her garden on Kastelorizo, Eleni can now see the EU border agency ship searching for new migrants and reminisces about what happened in 1945.

“My parents told me that I was tied with a rope and lowered on to a raft. But as they were letting me down, my father saw that it was full and ordered me back. As soon as I was brought up, a woman jumped on the dinghy. It capsized and all the children drowned.”

[…]

Other Greek refugees had fled the Nazi occupation to Syria. They were mainly from the island of Chios, a few kilometres off the Turkey coast.

“The Germans were here and we were hungry. I was three back then,” remembers Marianthi Andreadi. “So we left for Turkey illegally and from there we took the train to Al Nayrab camp in Aleppo (Syria).”

[…]

While Greece’s returned refugees feel a bond with the new wave of displaced people, age makes it difficult for them to meet.

But they hear new stories from Greek TV and Marianthi Andreadi believes that despite her country’s financial problems “we’re doing what we can”.

From their balconies, the former evacuees watched Syrian refugees coming off packed fishing boats. “It’s like a mirror to the past,” says Maria Chroni. “The hardest thing is having to witness the arrival of children.”

Eleni points out that the Greek evacuees made it back home and life returned to normal. She is not sure if the same will happen to the Greece’s new refugees any time soon.

The poor meet the poor, coming and going.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:29:55am

re: #273 lawhawk

I’m sure they had nothing evil planned. After all the extra long magazine for one of the pistols is labelled ” ‘Merica”. How could people who are so obviously among the faithful be up to no good?

/to infinity

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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:30:04am

Sec. Clinton is excoriating Trump right now.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:32:02am

re: #351 Romantic Heretic

The FBI was initially part of investigation, but more recent reporting indicates that it’s being investigated as a local matter. IOW, reading between the lines, they find no links to terrorism at the present time.

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Nyet  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:33:34am

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel

Happy birthday, SK!

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:36:04am

re: #341 Stanley Sea

Here’s an in depth story about Draper Sterling. It’s a freaking scam.

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Corey is about to meet the wheels of that bus.

Late last night, however, Republican operative Matt Mackowiak tweeted that the Trump campaign was doing a “forensic audit” of ousted campaign manager Corey Lewandowski’s spending.

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ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:36:47am

re: #330 BeachDem

Why are you typing instead of being there??

(Fort Hayes is very cool. Several of my friends’ kids went there for the theater program.)

I may be typing, but I am also working on a job, graphics for a food truck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:37:09am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:37:09am

HE SO MAD BRO

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:37:38am

Hey teleskiguy, got some 411 on the ticketmaster voucher mess:

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:39:05am
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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:39:13am

re: #356 ObserverArt

I may be typing, but I am also working on a job, graphics for a food truck.

OK—you’re forgiven ;)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:40:08am

HE SO MAD

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:40:50am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Trump sons creep me out—and remind me so much of the Romney sons. Ewww.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:41:57am

re: #363 BeachDem

The Trump sons creep me out—and remind me so much of the Romney sons. Ewww.

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They have Resting Douche Face

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:42:01am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

NEW: Sources tell me “The family is fully in charge” in wake of Lewandowski firing. Inside @realDonaldTrump campaign
— Kelly O’Donnell (@KellyO) June 21, 2016

Brilliant move! Hand it over to a family of entitled spoiled children who don’t know the first thing about running a political campaign! Bravo.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:42:04am

re: #362 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:42:33am

re: #362 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:42:50am

re: #365 Dr. Matt

Brilliant move! Hand it over to a family of entitled spoiled children who don’t know the first thing about running a political campaign! Bravo.

And they don’t vote, either!

369
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:43:26am

LOL

370
Belafon  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:43:47am

re: #365 Dr. Matt

Brilliant move! Hand it over to a family of entitled spoiled children who don’t know the first thing about running a political campaign! Bravo.

Wait until Trump talks about how his children are serving their country.

371
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:43:48am

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A veteran Pennsylvania congressman was convicted Tuesday in a racketeering case that largely centered on various efforts to repay an illegal $1 million campaign loan.

U.S. Rep. Chaka Fattah was found guilty of all counts against him, including racketeering, fraud and money laundering. His lawyers had argued that the schemes were engineered without Fattah’s knowledge by two political consultants who pleaded guilty in the case.

The 59-year-old Democrat had been in Congress since 1995 and served on the powerful House Appropriations Committee. But he lost the April primary and his bid for another term.

Prosecutors said Fattah routed federal grant money and nonprofit funds through his consultants to pay back the illegal loan.

372
Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:44:09am

re: #362 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary Clinton surged the trade deficit with China 40% as
Secretary of State, costing Americans millions of jobs.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2016

How exactly did she do this as the Secretary of State? When will our librul media actually challeng these idiotic rants?

373
Testy Toad T  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:45:03am

I hope somebody has been spending this cycle curating a list of the greatest Trump euphemisms. Wonkette’s “appleheaded vagina mouth troll baby” might be my new favorite.

374
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:45:42am

THE BUTTHURTS FLOWS

375
wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:46:10am

I don’t know what I was saving this for. This person has the greatest selection of nature photos.

376
Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:46:25am

Hillary:

Donald Trump has written a lot of books about business. They all seem to end at chapter 11.

LOL!!!!!!!

377
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:46:29am
378
lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:47:47am

re: #372 Dr. Matt

Of course Sec. State. has nothing to do with the trade imbalance, but being the head of a company that chose to have their clothing line overseas in places like China does have something to do with that trade imbalance.

By offshoring jobs to China, the US has to import those products (paying for them, creating the imbalance, all while Trump reaps the profits of having his stuff made overseas). That’s lost American manufacturing jobs in the clothing industry. Jobs that Americans would do… but for Trump not giving them a chance.

379
MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:48:12am

re: #363 BeachDem

I think Trump’s kids are creepier. The whole slicked back hair, holding up an elephant’s tail. They are gross. Romney’s kids are just spoiled rich kids. Trump’s kids are spoiled rich assholes.

380
stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:48:37am

re: #362 The Vicious Babushka

re: #369 The Vicious Babushka

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

This is what Trumps actual campaign looks like. Sad.

381
MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:49:11am

re: #365 Dr. Matt

Brilliant move! Hand it over to a family of entitled spoiled children who don’t know the first thing about running a political campaign! Bravo.

They don’t even know how to register to vote. They couldn’t even vote for their own father.

Hey, I am all for this. Put them in charge. Brilliant.

382
sagehen  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:49:47am

re: #284 Decatur Deb

The United States Capitol shooting incident of 1954 was an attack on March 1, 1954, by four Puerto Rican nationalists; they shot 30 rounds from semi-automatic pistols from the Ladies’ Gallery (a balcony for visitors) of the House of Representatives chamber in the United States Capitol. They wanted to highlight their desire for Puerto Rican independence from US rule.

en.wikipedia.org

They were FALN, the same group that tried to assassinate Harry Truman (his bodyguard died shielding him).

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:49:53am

re: #379 MsJ

I think Trump’s kids are creepier. The whole slicked back hair, holding up an elephant’s tail. They are gross. Romney’s kids are just spoiled rich kids. Trump’s kids are spoiled rich assholes.

The Stepford Family

384
Double Dumbass  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:50:29am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

They have Resting Douche Face

Their entitlement pustules just ooze.

385
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:51:23am

re: #353 lawhawk

The FBI was initially part of investigation, but more recent reporting indicates that it’s being investigated as a local matter. IOW, reading between the lines, they find no links to terrorism at the present time.

Two senior law enforcement officials say the three suspects are so-called “gun enthusiasts” and have no nexus to terror. There is no known threat.

Drugs were in the vehicle along with the guns, according to one law enforcement official. One of the suspects allegedly told authorities the trio was en route to Queens to try to save a friend who is on heroin and being held against her will. Police are looking for the possible woman in Queens.

386
Testy Toad T  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:51:58am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He knows how to take the bull by the horns of a dilemma

If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

387
Sir John Barron  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:52:02am

re: #362 The Vicious Babushka

HE SO MAD

SURGED!!!!!!

388
wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:52:34am
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Belafon  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:52:44am

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

THE BUTTHURTS FLOWS

Actually, it’s the sending jobs overseas that’s doing it. At least the immigrants are spending money here.

390
Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:53:21am

re: #379 MsJ

I think Trump’s kids are creepier. The whole slicked back hair, holding up an elephant’s tail. They are gross. Romney’s kids are just spoiled rich kids. Trump’s kids are spoiled rich assholes.

I agree. Trump’s boy look like sleazy used car salesman….no offense to used car salesman

Do they get some sort of group discount for having the same haircut?

391
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:53:50am

How much of Donald Trumps YOOGE ANTI CROOKED HILLARY speech will be full of turds from this latest “tell all” gossip book?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:54:11am
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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:54:55am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Gun enthusiasts who were on their way to rescue a friend. It’s so Scooby-Do innocent, you just gotta hope they succeed.

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:55:02am

Oldies but goodies work. Especially when your foil is someone straight out of central casting for egotistical megalomaniac who thinks he deserves to be president on nothing but sheer hubris.

395
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:55:18am

I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I
I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:55:27am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s taking it to Donald where it hurts…his Twitter TL.

Oh, this election.

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Ming5000  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:55:54am

re: #379 MsJ

I think Trump’s kids are creepier. The whole slicked back hair, holding up an elephant’s tail. They are gross. Romney’s kids are just spoiled rich kids. Trump’s kids are spoiled rich assholes.

Where are they keeping Tiffany?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:56:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:56:33am
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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:56:41am

re: #397 Ming5000

Where are they keeping Tiffany?

On their fingers, pockets, lamps, key chains, money clips, etc?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:56:53am

re: #397 Ming5000

Where are they keeping Tiffany?

They’re waiting until her “you knows” grow out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:57:40am
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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:57:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:58:31am

re: #394 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Oldies but goodies work. Especially when your foil is someone straight out of central casting for egotistical megalomaniac who thinks he deserves to be president on nothing but sheer hubris.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 9:59:14am
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Franklin  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:00:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:01:17am

heh

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:02:41am

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

Trump has written a lot of books about business—but they all seem to end at Chapter 11.

me and my homies playing at the local bar here in Frankfurt

Chapter 11

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:02:46am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

[Embedded content]

It should surprise no one that the British really know how to do a Tea Party.

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Teukka  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:03:21am

re: #409 wrenchwench

It should surprise no one that the British really know how to do a proper Tea Party.

FTFY.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:04:43am

re: #398 The Vicious Babushka

Pivot

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ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:04:44am

re: #388 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Makes me think of a cheer…

10 cents
20 cents
30 cents on the dollar
Vote for Trump
And you’ll have
Plenty reason to holler!

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:04:45am

re: #379 MsJ

I think Trump’s kids are creepier. The whole slicked back hair, holding up an elephant’s tail. They are gross. Romney’s kids are just spoiled rich kids. Trump’s kids are spoiled rich assholes.

Well, when you put it that way…but I still think it’s a tossup—with the one Romney who wanted to punch out Obama and the one who made birther jokes and—that’s all I can think of right now—I have blocked the Romneys from most of my memory, thank dog.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:05:11am

re: #380 stpaulbear

This is what Trumps actual campaign looks like. Sad.

So, is the euphemism “internet advertising” on his balance sheets another way to funnel cash into his own pocket? I iz innernetz advertizing when I iz twitting

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:06:28am

lol, there will be much more than just one Mexican flag greeting Donald when he visits Scotland this weekend.

He told Press Association Scotland: “I am currently flying a Mexican flag along with my usual saltire just for solidarity along with those worldwide who Trump has decried, insulted and threatened over the years, and will continue to decry, insult and threaten.

“The intention is to keep the flag up until after the New York clown has returned home from his visit.”

And local residents couldn’t agree more.

Grant Farquharson commented: “Brilliant, sombreros off to you”, and Rohan Beyts added: “I now wish I had got one for myself to fly at the lighthouse.”

The Trump fanfare might even be taken to the next level after Joe Brown contributed: “I have access to a P.A. Have you considered the possibility of playing some fantastic Mexican music?”

416
Testy Toad T  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:07:48am

re: #413 BeachDem

Well, when you put it that way…but I still think it’s a tossup—with the one Romney who wanted to punch out Obama and the one who made birther jokes and—that’s all I can think of right now—I have blocked the Romneys from most of my memory, thank dog.

Don’t forget to hose off your thank-dog after it poops itself in fear on the roof of the car. Ha ha very funny!

417
Eventual Carrion  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:08:36am

re: #219 Belafon

Randy is Lorde

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:08:58am
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Kragar  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:10:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:12:05am

Republican National Committee Chief Strategist Sean Spicer asserted on Monday that “everything is fine” with Donald Trump’s presidential campaign was even though it reportedly has only $1.3 million in the bank.

“I think when you look at the entirety of where our party is at and where our efforts are at combined with the party and the campaign, it’s the Republicans that are far ahead,” Spicer argued to CNN’s Kate Bolduan. “I appreciate everyone’s concern over the state of our party, we’re doing just great.”

“He’s got $1.3 million in the bank,” CNN co-host John Berman noted. “There are county commissioners that have that much in the bank right now in a campaign. Are you saying that’s a good place to be?”

“That’s a false narrative,” Spicer shot back. “Donald Trump has largely financed his entire campaign by writing checks, he can continue to do that. If Trump wants to get the number at $100 million, he’ll write a check and pump it up.”

“It’s false to say that he has $1.3 million,” he continued. “If he wanted to get that number up in 2 seconds, he just strokes a check and it’s up.”

“Has Trump told you he’s going to write those checks?” Bolduan asked.

“He has the option!” Spicer insisted.

“The option doesn’t matter if he’s not going to use it,” Berman observed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:14:14am
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:14:37am

re: #390 Dr. Matt

They have that really weird rich-prep boy smile that was mocked on South Park too.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:15:21am

Judd Legum is a beast.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:16:26am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Maybe the Reiners are helping write Hillary’s stuff:

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:17:33am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

Considering the threats they are now making to Muslims, they need to arrested, and thrown into jail for life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:18:55am
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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:19:21am

re: #390 Dr. Matt

I agree. Trump’s boy look like sleazy used car salesman….no offense to used car salesman

Do they get some sort of group discount for having the same haircut?

Ivanka is pretty, but those boys both have ‘punch-me’ faces.

I’d bet a lot of money that they’re both insufferable little punks. I can smell the entitlement through the photos.

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Kragar  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:19:26am

Donnie is trying to talk economics today. SAD!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:20:52am

parody account is funny

430
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:21:56am

WHAT IN THE UTTER FUCK

431
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:22:32am

The above tweet is a projection of what Donald actually wants to do if he becomes POTUS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:22:54am

Donald’s kids are doing a tremendous job keeping him under control today:

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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:23:37am

re: #430 The Vicious Babushka

WHAT IN THE UTTER FUCK

[Embedded content]

Now he’s just bleating whatever crosses his mind.

She really seems to have gotten into his head with that speech.

His unfavorables may reach triple digits before this is over.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:23:59am
435
Kragar  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:24:40am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

436
A Mom Anon  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:24:55am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is fucking AWESOME. LOL.

437
Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:26:09am

Righties are going ape-shit over the latest anti-Clinton bullshit book. Bill and Hillary haven’t been in the WH for nearly 16 years and yet none of these stories have come to light. It really is an amazing coincidence for another right-wing tool to publish yet another anti-Clinton bullshit book 20 weeks before the election.

438
Stanley Sea  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:26:41am

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Their hubris in naming the Co. Draper Sterling is their fall.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:26:58am

re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lewandowski admits Trump’s Pershing story is a myth but says it doesn’t matter - good times

Because when you are the keepers of a Higher Truth, you are not bound by mundane facts

440
Belafon  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:27:46am

re: #435 Kragar

He’s probably also hoping to distract the media from analyzing his campaign finances.

441
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:28:18am

re: #440 Belafon

He’s probably also hoping to distract the media from analyzing his campaign finances.

442
BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:28:33am

re: #437 Dr. Matt

Righties are going ape-shit over the latest anti-Clinton bullshit book. Bill and Hillary haven’t been in the WH for nearly 16 years and yet none of these stories have come to light. It really is an amazing coincidence for another right-wing tool to publish yet another anti-Clinton bullshit book 20 weeks before the election.

The author of a new tell-all book about Hillary Clinton could never have seen any of what he claims — he was too low-ranking — say several high-level members of Secret Service presidential details, including the president of the Association of Former Agents of the United States Secret Service.

politico.com

Not that it will matter to the morons who hang their hats on that kind of crap.

443
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:28:42am

sounds like fun…

444
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:29:42am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

sounds like fun…

SVR T-STORM WARNING for Lewis Co. in KY, Scioto and Adams Co.’s in OH until 2:00PM EDT. Hazards include 60mph winds and quarter size hail.

Why the upset? It’s not even full-size hail…

445
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:30:13am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

sounds like fun…

[Embedded content]

The hail is now half-dollar size…hoping it stays north of me.
YOW!

446
Le Lapin Tueur  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:31:05am

re: #430 The Vicious Babushka

Is that heading towards actionable language?

447
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:31:29am

re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth

The hail is now half-dollar size…hoping it stays north of me.
YOW!

Under Trump, it will be down to dime-size

448
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:31:40am

LOL Trump is getting hammered in the replies to his “personal Hedge Fund” Tweet. Not even the usual nazibots to support him.

449
Teukka  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:31:48am

re: #446 Le Lapin Tueur

Is that heading towards actionable language?

I would say so. But how long to the actual line is another question.

450
Great White Snark  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:33:37am

re: #426 Backwoods_Sleuth

451
Kragar  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:34:06am
452
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:35:26am
453
jaunte  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:35:53am

Trump’s gonna be SO GREAT with religious.

454
ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:37:27am

re: #430 The Vicious Babushka

WHAT IN THE UTTER FUCK

[Embedded content]

Can’t you just feel the changes in Trump’s campaign now that Lewandowski is out?!

Who knows, maybe Lewandowski was actually keeping The Don in check. Now that he has his ‘yes-family’ in charge he may go full-on ape man.

455
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:37:29am

re: #453 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Trump’s gonna be SO GREAT with religious.

Everything we ever needed to know about Methodists we learned from Blazing Saddles.

/////////////////////////

456
Kragar  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:39:05am
457
BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:41:31am
458
ObserverArt  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:41:44am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

sounds like fun…

[Embedded content]

I can tell a cold front is coming into the area. The skies are brighter and clearer than the last few days, the wind is up and the temp is dropping.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:42:30am

re: #454 ObserverArt

Can’t you just feel the changes in Trump’s campaign now that Lewandowski is out?!

Who knows, maybe Lewandowski was actually keeping The Don in check. Now that he has his ‘yes-family’ in charge he may go full-on ape man.

Incoming Ape Man!

460
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:43:49am

re: #458 ObserverArt

I can tell a cold front is coming into the area. The skies are brighter and clearer than the last few days, the wind is up and the temp is dropping.

The radar down my way is just nutz right now.

461
mmmirele  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:46:27am

re: #228 stpaulbear

My dad died on my birthday two years ago. Since I was his first child and born on Father’s Day, it seemed entirely appropriate because we were very close, but still rather depressing. Yes, I still miss him terribly.

462
Nyet  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:49:11am

re: #76 Anymouse

The same applies to ending sentences with prepositions. The famous quote attributed to Winston Churchill applies:

The quote is nonsense though since “up” in “put up” is not a preposition but merely an inseparable part of a phrasal verb.

463
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:50:04am
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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:52:54am

re: #463 The Vicious Babushka

littlegreenfootballs.com

The author of a new tell-all book about Hillary Clinton could never have seen any of what he claims — he was too low-ranking — say several high-level members of Secret Service presidential details, including the president of the Association of Former Agents of the United States Secret Service.

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Lidane  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:53:17am

Mental health break:

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allegro  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:53:32am

re: #463 The Vicious Babushka

Besides the fact that the SS has already discredited this guy, aren’t there pretty strict ND rules for agents?

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:53:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:54:54am

re: #463 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

“Operationally, one who has the working knowledge of how things are done there would realize that certain of those statements do not coincide with the operational plan,” said Jan Gilhooly, AFAUSSS president and a 29-year Secret Service veteran.

The group’s statement, which POLITICO obtained in advance of its release, very carefully calls Byrne a liar.

“One must question the veracity and content of any book which implies that its author played such an integral part of so many [claimed] incidents. Any critique of management by one who has never managed personnel or programs resounds hollow. Additionally, why would an employee wait in excess of ten years after terminating his employment with the Service to make his allegations public?” it reads.

The closest contact that Byrne could have had, according to Gilhooly and others, is seeing the president or the first lady pass in the hallway — far from the intimate access he would have needed to catch Bill Clinton in the act or see Hillary Clinton fly into the cursing rages he now writes have convinced him that she doesn’t have the “integrity and temperament” to be president.

“There could be a circumstance where a uniformed officer might be in the proximity. It’s not as if it never happens,” Gilhooly said. “It is possible, but not on a continuum.”

The former supervisor of the presidential protective division said that at best Byrne is working from office rumors that he’s cinematically written himself into. People spend decades on presidential details and don’t rack up the number of amazing scenes Byrne claims to have witnessed in just a few years as a uniformed officer.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:55:52am
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plansbandc  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:56:12am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m thinking something really nice like and endless loop of The Mexican Hat Dance and La Cucaracha.

Ironic stereotype music for the fascist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:58:21am

Donald’s closed door meeting earlier today with the evangelicals:

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Nyet  Jun 21, 2016 • 10:59:05am

Hehe.

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MsJ  Jun 21, 2016 • 11:03:41am

re: #465 Lidane

Mental health break:

[Embedded content]

I immediately thought You’re So Vain.

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Kragar  Jun 21, 2016 • 11:06:47am

re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth

475
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2016 • 11:30:40am

yep, the Backwoods is included in that mess.

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TedStriker  Jun 21, 2016 • 12:58:29pm

re: #467 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Completely inconspicuous!

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2016 • 3:51:34pm

re: #408 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nice!
Handsome buncha fellas, but I where were you hiding the waffle light?


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