European Fascist Parties Ecstatic Over Brexit Vote

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European far right and neo-fascist parties are ecstatic about Britain’s vote to leave the European Union.

European far-right parties have praised the UK’s decision to abandon the EU, hoping their countries will follow suit and have their own referendum. Marie le Pen, leader of the National Front in France, has hailed the UK’s Brexit as a “Victory for Freedom!”

Le Pen, whose anti-immigrant party is considered the third force in French politics after receiving 29% of the nationwide vote during last year’s regional elections, added: “That which no-one dared to dream about a few months back is now a reality which is clear to everyone: yes, it’s possible to leave the EU,” reported the Guardian.

Elsewhere Dutch anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders sent his own congregations to Britain and Ukip leader Nigel Farage after Britain opted to leave the EU by 51.9% to 48.1%.

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Franklin  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:06:48am

OK, so couldn’t find an email for “Last Week Tonight” so sent the show a tweet. Think this would be a great segment.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:08:28am
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Romantic Heretic  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:12:02am

Looking at that picture I have my usual thought when I see authoritarian fuckwits gathered together.

“Nice of them to bunch up like that. Fire mission!”

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:12:17am

re: #2 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:12:53am

Fascism is emboldened by this sigh.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:13:11am
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ShaunP  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:13:18am

Ok, now I need to find a way to use “cocksplat” in conversation.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:13:24am

Needless to say, American wingnuts are also delighted with the Brexit vote. To them it means….something.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:13:29am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:13:47am

re: #8 Sir John Barron

Needless to say, American wingnuts are also delighted with the Brexit vote. To them it means….something.

i’m seeing that in my TL unfortunately.

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S'latch  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:13:55am

Maybe a dumb idea (not my first one) but can Scotland withdraw from the UK and join the EU instead? It would be cool!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:14:38am

re: #9 Dr. Matt

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They do have a point but the good news here is we have a much more diverse electorate than the UK does which won’t help a bigot like Trump out. Hispanics especially are eager to vote against him.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:14:39am

re: #9 Dr. Matt

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What a second…did Reason just admit that markets can fail?

Isn’t that considered unpossible in the Libertarian mindset?

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:14:53am

re: #11 S’latch

Maybe a dumb idea (not my first one) but can Scotland withdraw from the UK and join the EU instead? It would be cool!

This is widely expected to occur, and in relatively short order.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:14:59am

re: #10 HappyWarrior

i’m seeing that in my TL unfortunately.

Yeah not sure what Laura Ingraham and others are so delighted about.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:15:12am

re: #2 jaunte

I love that insult. The mental picture is amazing.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:15:15am

re: #11 S’latch

Maybe a dumb idea (not my first one) but can Scotland withdraw from the UK and join the EU instead? It would be cool!

Not a dumb idea at all. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised or think a bad thing for Northern Ireland to reunify with the Irish Republic over this either.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:15:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:15:41am

re: #13 Timothy Watson

What a second…did Reason just admit that markets can fail?

Isn’t that considered unpossible in the Libertarian mindset?

Man, I don’t know how I missed that. Good catch dude.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:15:50am

re: #15 Sir John Barron

Yeah not sure what Laura Ingraham and others are so delighted about.

I guess some people just want to watch the world burn.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:16:21am

re: #15 Sir John Barron

Yeah not sure what Laura Ingraham and others are so delighted about.

I saw that Baby Whiplash was too.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:16:33am

re: #17 HappyWarrior

I saw someone with an interesting idea.

What about Ireland, NI, and Scotland uniting into a single Celtic nation? That would eliminate the need for a separate application for Scotland.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:16:38am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

They do have a point but the good news here is we have a much more diverse electorate than the UK does which won’t help a bigot like Trump out. Hispanics especially are eager to vote against him.

Boris Johnson and the UKIP cronies, odious though their views are, are also not quite so buffoonish and fundamentally unserious as Donald Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:16:55am

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Man, I don’t know how I missed that. Good catch dude.

Something “betting markets are not real markets” something

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:17:11am

re: #11 S’latch

Maybe a dumb idea (not my first one) but can Scotland withdraw from the UK and join the EU instead? It would be cool!

That idea was already put up for a vote in 2014. Scotland voted to stay in the UK, but now there are people calling for a new referendum,

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:17:14am

re: #23 Testy Toad T

Boris Johnson and the UKIP cronies, odious though their views are, are also not quite so buffoonish and fundamentally unserious as Donald Trump.

That’s true too.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:17:31am

re: #8 Sir John Barron

Needless to say, American wingnuts are also delighted with the Brexit vote. To them it means….something.

1776!

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:17:34am

re: #15 Sir John Barron

Yeah not sure what Laura Ingraham and others are so delighted about.

1. US and UK liberals think brexit is terrible and damaging
2. ???
3. Fuck them, they’re unhappy so therefore it is good!

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uncah91  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:18:15am

re: #13 Timothy Watson

Eh. Betting markets had it at about 9 to 1.

Meaning if we grab a random assortment of 10 betting market predictions that were also at 9 to 1, then 1 of them should go the opposite way, if the betting markets are accurate.

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Franklin  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:18:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:18:20am

re: #28 Testy Toad T

1. US and UK liberals think brexit is terrible and damaging
2. ???
3. Fuck them, they’re unhappy so therefore it is good!

Obama thought it was a bad idea

therefore WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT!!!!

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:18:42am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:18:58am

re: #2 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:20:01am

re: #22 Ziggy_TARDIS

I saw someone with an interesting idea.

What about Ireland, NI, and Scotland uniting into a single Celtic nation? That would eliminate the need for a separate application for Scotland.

I don’t know.about that. It’s an interesting thought since lots of Irish have Scottish ancestors and vice versa. I mean by far the most famous Scot on earth is probably Sean Connery and he’s part Irish but it would be pretty ambitious. I think the best courser is for NI to join with the Irish Republic given that NI already has a land border with the Republic. Scotland clearly wanted to stay with the EU and the whole argument for staying part of the UK two Falls ago was the stability that the UK offered which is no longer the case.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:20:09am

re: #33 Dave In Austin

Trump insult generator overload is underway as the Brits, and especially the Scots go off on Trump in a bloody brilliant display.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:20:17am

re: #28 Testy Toad T

1. US and UK liberals think brexit is terrible and damaging
2. ???
3. Fuck them, they’re unhappy so therefore it is good!

You got it.

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S'latch  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:20:53am

I hope European far right and neo-fascist parties are still in the minority. But in the U.S., the Grand Old Far Right Neo-Fascist Party controls Congress and is nominating Donald Trump as a presidential candidate.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:21:02am

re: #30 Franklin

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Is the Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office also out of a job?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:21:46am

re: #38 Timothy Watson

Is the Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office also out of a job?

Maybe that’s the real reason why Trump is in Britain.

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Franklin  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:22:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:22:36am

From Newsmax:

US Media Hides Obama’s Role in Brexit Disaster

So it’s a disaster to the extent that it’s Obama’s fault or what?

And how did Obama have any direct or indirect influence on a referendum in the UK?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:22:41am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:23:43am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From Newsmax:

US Media Hides Obama’s Role in Brexit Disaster

So it’s a disaster to the extent that it’s Obama’s fault or what?

And how did Obama have any direct or indirect influence on a referendum in the UK?

It’s a disaster but also it’s awesome. That’s how we roll.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:24:11am

Enraged the hell out of the Berniesphere on Twitter this morning. Again.

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Franklin  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:24:20am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:24:20am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From Newsmax:

US Media Hides Obama’s Role in Brexit Disaster

So it’s a disaster to the extent that it’s Obama’s fault or what?

And how did Obama have any direct or indirect influence on a referendum in the UK?

It’s always Obama’s fault to these pig fuckers. Besides, I thought they were happy with Britain leaving hte EU. Shouldn’t they then be grateful that Obama did this? Oh wait, their entire ideology is blindly hating the black guy with the funny name for the nerve of beating their two white guys in a convincing manner twice and proving their racist stereotypes about black people just being lazy and wanting “free stuff” wrong.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:24:25am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From Newsmax:

US Media Hides Obama’s Role in Brexit Disaster

So it’s a disaster to the extent that it’s Obama’s fault or what?

And how did Obama have any direct or indirect influence on a referendum in the UK?

Wait - “Brexit Disaster”? I thought this was Morning In Great Britain?

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:24:42am

Dow down 500 points, major companies see their net worth slashed. Investors, including anyone with a 401k, see their savings slashed in a single day.

So what’s Trump rambling on about? Oh yeah, how he managed to maintain a golf course in Scotland. Oh, and he’s traveling without foreign advisers, because who needs ‘em?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:25:02am

re: #46 HappyWarrior

It’s always Obama’s fault to these pig fuckers. Besides, I thought they were happy with Britain leaving hte EU. Shouldn’t they then be grateful that Obama did this? Oh wait, their entire ideology is blindly hating the black guy with the funny name for the nerve of beating their two white guys in a convincing manner twice and proving their racist stereotypes about black people just being lazy and wanting “free stuff” wrong.

Wingnuts are deliriously happy about Brexit but in case things go terribly wrong they can blame Obama.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:25:22am

I’m old enough to remember when Bill Clinton’s overseas interventions were the tail wagging the dog, to distract from domestic dalliances. How dare we fuck around over there!

Now Obama is responsible for Bush destabilizing Iraq and then for not bombing Syria (which, by the way, is well within Europe’s geopolitical sphere in the first place) causing refugees to flood the EU which purportedly is forcing a bunch of them to the United Kingdom which hurts British fee-fees.

That’s one heck of a causal chain.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:26:07am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Enraged the hell out of the Berniesphere on Twitter this morning. Again.

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Bernie’s showing why he has no place in the WH with that statement. He totally ignores that there are industrial places in Scotland and Northern Ireland that voted to stay part of the EU that have declined due to globalization. He again ignores the role of nativism in people’s resentments against globalization and it’s getting fucking annoying. He should fucking no better.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:26:30am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:26:36am

re: #49 Sir John Barron

Wingnuts are deliriously happy about Brexit but in case things go terribly wrong they can blame Obama.

Getting both narratives ready just in case of course.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:26:41am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Enraged the hell out of the Berniesphere on Twitter this morning. Again.

Just another whiny baby sticking his fingers in his ears and pretending he can have a 1960 society and economy back if only he yells loudly enough about it.

They’re all the fucking same, except some are actively hostile to minorities and some merely don’t care.

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Lidane  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:27:22am

re: #8 Sir John Barron

Needless to say, American wingnuts are also delighted with the Brexit vote. To them it means….something.

“SOVEREIGNTY! ELEVENTY!” is what I’m seeing from the nutters today. They utterly fail to comprehend that countries do not exist in a vacuum. There are real effects to exiting the EU.

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Franklin  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:29:02am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:29:23am

re: #54 Testy Toad T

Just another whiny baby sticking his fingers in his ears and pretending he can have a 1960 society and economy back if only he yells loudly enough about it.

They’re all the fucking same, except some are actively hostile to minorities and some merely don’t care.

I’ve come to the sad conclusion that Bernie is among the latter. He has shown me little that the rise of xenophobia in response to frustrations about outsourcing is something that bothers him. He may not be a racist or bigot but he certainly lets his narrow vision of what the economy should be blind him to reality.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:29:24am

re: #55 Lidane

“SOVEREIGNTY! ELEVENTY!” is what I’m seeing from the nutters today. They utterly fail to comprehend that countries do not exist in a vacuum. There are real effects to exiting the EU.

When you think that a country’s financial policy can be closely approximated by that of a single nuclear family, then brexit probably looks like moving out of your parents’ basement, or some stupid shit like that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:30:15am

re: #55 Lidane

“SOVEREIGNTY! ELEVENTY!” is what I’m seeing from the nutters today. They utterly fail to comprehend that countries do not exist in a vacuum. There are real effects to exiting the EU.

They love the idea of an aggressive leader like Trump dominating all the other leaders. What they don’t see is that other countries can also choose aggressive leaders - in fact it make that more likely - and we’ve already seen how that works out, at a cost of over 150,000,000 lives in the last two World Wars.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:32:34am

By the way it’s the same when Bernie bemoans that white working class voters no longer support the Democratic Party anymore. He goes on and on about how the Democrats sold those people out but ignores that minority working class voters are still staunch Democrats. Honestly, as someone whose forefathers were white ethnic working class, I’m tired of Bernie romanticizing them like losing them in the Reagan years was a great tragedy for the Democraic Party. Were all of these people bigots? No, of course not but did bigotry play a role in why some of them left the Democratic Party for the Republicans, absolutely and i’m tired of hearing from a white guy from Vermont who knows very little about the reality of how American politics works beyond it being acting like he’ll solve everything.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:32:52am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I’ve come to the sad conclusion that Bernie is among the latter. He has shown me little that the rise of xenophobia in response to frustrations about outsourcing is something that bothers him. He may not be a racist or bigot but he certainly lets his narrow vision of what the economy should be blind him to reality.

Well, he intentionally and openly flouted the Obama Coalition, in favor of seeking working class whites, whose biggest complaint was having to share with the people who make up that coalition.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:34:41am

re: #61 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, he intentionally and openly flouted the Obama Coalition, in favor of seeking working class whites, whose biggest complaint was having to share with the people who make up that coalition.

That’s certainly true and that brings to me why I hate Bernie’s bitching about the white working class no longer voting Democratic in the numbers they once did. He is totally oblivious to how prejudice and yes as you say complaining about having to share prosperity and benefits with people of color.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:37:03am

re: #62 HappyWarrior

That’s certainly true and that brings to me why I hate Bernie’s bitching about the white working class no longer voting Democratic in the numbers they once did. He is totally oblivious to how prejudice and yes as you say complaining about having to share prosperity and benefits with people of color.

As I’ve said before - probably Ad Nauseam - When all you have is a hammer and sickle, every problem looks like Class Struggle.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:37:43am

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

As I’ve said before - probably Ad Nauseam - When all you have is a hammer and sickle, every problem looks like Class Struggle.

Yep, it’s why I’m a liberal and not a socialist.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:40:27am

Honestly I think Bernie and I hope I don’t sound like I’m knocking Vermont here but he chose to live in an overwhelmingly white state. He hasn’t lived in a state where Jesse Helms can create racial resentment in ads by suggesting that the job you were qualified went to an unqualified minority. and I know he’s lived in New York too but he hasn’t lived in New York in a very long time and hasn’t during his political career.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:41:51am

Ser Orange of Dumbassery:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:42:05am
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retired cynic  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:43:56am

I’m just jumping in for a minute, as I am swamped right now, but Charlie Pierce has a slightly different take: esquire.com

Sorry if this has already been posted.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:44:10am

I also expect RWNJ to say how great national referendums are and how come we can’t have a national referendum to repeal Obamacare but also that US is not a democracy but a republic so direct democracy like national referendums is dumb and unconstitutional, except when it would do things they want.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:44:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:44:29am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:44:57am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:45:41am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Would I be wrong having some Schadenfreude towards those dead English who thought the Irish were a bunch of idiots and didn’t have “providence” and that was why they were poor. I’ll admit here to Lizardom but I’ve been sympathetic towards the cause of Irish reunification for a long time and I hope they succeed. I became sympathetic towards the Scottish independence movement two years ago too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:48:28am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

Yep, it’s why I’m a liberal and not a socialist.

My take on it is that Liberalism is generally a pragmatic philosophy, and I include in that Democratic Socialism and most of Progressivism. Liberals don’t want BIG government, they want EFFECTIVE government that does things that improve life for all members of society. We’re not philosophically bound to Single Payer healthcare, for example, but we tend to see it as the most efficient way to meet the need. We don’t see Capitalism as evil per se, but rather as an effective economic system that requires constant vigilance and careful regulation to avoid its worst excesses.

Socialism/Communism of the ‘From Each/To Each’ sort, Libertarianism, Anarchism, and Conservatism as currently constituted are all Unicorn Fart philosophies that are detached from reality.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:48:34am

re: #8 Sir John Barron

Needless to say, American wingnuts are also delighted with the Brexit vote. To them it means….something.

I couldn’t resist looking at Dreher…not that he knows a fucking thing about the UK.

Of course he was

“hurr hurr the elites got it wrong the common man is sticking it to the know nothing elite media and liberal Christiane Amanpour had a meltdown on TV LOL LOL LOL”

What a fucking disaster.

I was ambivalent about the Scotland referendum in 2014 since there were good economic reason to stay in the UK.

That is finished. Scotland needs to get the hell out and forge her own way.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:48:50am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

I became sympathetic towards the Scottish independence movement two years ago too.

I became sympathetic towards Scottish independence about 15 hours ago when it became clear to me how bugfuck crazy is the average voter in greater England.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:49:15am

re: #52 Stanley Sea

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The forgot the banger.

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Ian G.  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:50:53am

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Par for the course for people who hate him for being both a Muslim and an atheist, a clueless affirmative action president, and the most brilliant sinister mind in history, etc. etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:51:01am

re: #76 Testy Toad T

I became sympathetic towards Scottish independence about 15 hours ago when it became clear to me how bugfuck crazy is the average voter in greater England.

To me, it was honestly listening to Jimmah and Ice. I don’t attempt to butt in on things I A) haven’t researched heavily and B) haven’t a clue but my thought was that so much of what the UK was done against the people who lived there will. I know that’s hypocritical for an American but at least our territories were allowed to vote to become states.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:51:13am

re: #76 Testy Toad T

I became sympathetic towards Scottish independence about 15 hours ago when it became clear to me how bugfuck crazy is the average voter in greater England.

There is something to that. Most of the Labor Party MP support comes from Scotland.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:52:14am

re: #80 Aunty Entity Dragon

There is something to that. Most of the Labor Party MP support comes from Scotland.

That is something I’ve noticed too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:53:11am

re: #78 Ian G.

Par for the course for people who hate him for being both a Muslim and an atheist, a clueless affirmative action president, and the most brilliant sinister mind in history, etc. etc.

He is everything and he is nothing. They include both narratives to cover their asses.

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Ian G.  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:53:57am

I have to wonder, could an act of English stupidity lead to Belfast Protestants deciding that their best future lies in union with the Republic of Ireland? We live in strange times.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:55:22am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:55:40am

re: #83 Ian G.

I have to wonder, could an act of English stupidity lead to Belfast Protestants deciding that their best future lies in union with the Republic of Ireland? We live in strange times.

I don’t know. It seems to me that a lot of the Protestant areas of NI voted to leave. However, there was some crossover obviously since NI does have more Protestants than Catholics but remain won in NI.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:55:48am

re: #75 Aunty Entity Dragon

I couldn’t resist looking at Dreher…not that he knows a fucking thing about the UK.

Of course he was

What a fucking disaster.

I was ambivalent about the Scotland referendum in 2014 since there were good economic reason to stay in the UK.

That is finished. Scotland needs to get the hell out and forge her own way.

Still waiting for Dreher to go Galt Eggs Benedict. No luck so far, apparently.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:57:07am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

He is everything and he is nothing. They include both narratives to cover their asses.

Modern Conservatism is all about the ability to simultaneously hold numerous mutually contradictory beliefs and call it consistency and adherence to principle, while denying objectively verifiable reality and accusing those who don’t of perpetrating hoaxes.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:57:39am

As an American Episcopalian I have a fondness and attachment to England although I’ve never been there. And I know at least one branch of my family came from there. So too bad to see the degree of nuttery.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:57:45am

PISS-COLORED COTTON CANDY FUCKNUCKLE SAYS WHAT

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:58:03am

Honestly though regarding the map of all the places that the Brits have colonized, it’s like that here with our warhawks who have constantly wanted us involved in certain regions and then act shocked when negative consequences i.e. oppressive dictatorship, etc arise and the people have to flee those regions. A lot of Hispanic-Americans here in the D.C Metro Area are from El Salvador and our foreign policy had a big role in the civil war that transpired there. We kind of owe it ot those people to welcome them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:58:17am

re: #76 Testy Toad T

I became sympathetic towards Scottish independence about 15 hours ago when it became clear to me how bugfuck crazy is the average voter in greater England.

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:58:25am

Heh

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:58:58am

re: #88 Sir John Barron

As an American Episcopalian I have a fondness and attachment to England although I’ve never been there. And I know at least one branch of my family came from there. So too bad to see the degree of nuttery.

I do know how you feel. I don’t have the biological ties you do but I do have two English cousins in law who reside with my cousins and their children in the UK.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:59:07am

re: #80 Aunty Entity Dragon

There is something to that. Most of the Labor Party MP support comes from Scotland.

Shouldn’t that be “came from Scotland”? IIRC (always a chancy proposition!) - the most of Scottish Nationalist support - especially during, and after their own “Leave” referendum - came from ex-Labour voters (the Tories up there having about as much influence as Republicans in California).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 11:59:23am

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

Heh

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Brilliant.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:00:11pm

re: #86 Sir John Barron

Still waiting for Dreher to go Galt Eggs Benedict. No luck so far, apparently.

Not as long as he can grift off of the home schoolers and End Times prep people with his upcoming book which explains the Dreher/Alasdair MacIntyre Method To Go Jesus Galt.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:00:20pm

re: #94 Jay C

Shouldn’t that be “came from Scotland”? IIRC (always a chancy proposition!) - the most of Scottish Nationalist support - especially during, and after their own “Leave” referendum - came from ex-Labour voters (the Tories up there having about as much influence as Republicans in California).

Yes, you’re right about that now that oyu mention it. And yeah I think Scotland had only a couple of Tories which quite honestly makes them even more rare than California Republicans.

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Tigger2  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:02:20pm

re: #89 The Vicious Babushka

PISS-COLORED COTTON CANDY FUCKNUCKLE SAYS WHAT

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:02:21pm

Nothing personal, but Britain should suffer and made an example of so that others see where such things lead.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:02:59pm

Back here in the States, major flooding throughout West Virginia. At least 14 dead, and that number is likely to rise. Quite a few communities are cut off and some areas are still in bad trouble with flooding after more than 10 inches of rain fell in places.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:03:00pm

re: #76 Testy Toad T

For me it was a full 180.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:03:23pm

AED though, what makes Scotland so adverse to the Tories and it appears conservatism in general? Not really familiar with Scottish history in the years since they became part of Great Britain and then the UK. I do have tiny ties to Scotland, second great grandmother was born there but her family was all Irish and she left when she was pretty young.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:05:51pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

AED though, what makes Scotland so adverse to the Tories and it appears conservatism in general? Not really familiar with Scottish history in the years since they became part of Great Britain and then the UK. I do have tiny ties to Scotland, second great grandmother was born there but her family was all Irish and she left when she was pretty young.

Completely anecdotally, in places where the weather is always trying to kill you, people band together more naturally. I think the Nordic welfare states are a good example, and the American deep south a nice counter.

FYIGM is an easier sell when striking out individually is something that won’t result in your being eaten by a bear.

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:06:22pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:06:22pm

it seems that Brexit on the morning after has been replaced with Buyer’s Bremorse

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:06:27pm

re: #100 lawhawk

Back here in the States, major flooding throughout West Virginia. At least 14 dead, and that number is likely to rise. Quite a few communities are cut off and some areas are still in bad trouble with flooding after more than 10 inches of rain fell in places.

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Yeah just got an email about that. Awful.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:06:48pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:07:24pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

I do know how you feel. I don’t have the biological ties you do but I do have two English cousins in law who reside with my cousins and their children in the UK.

Well I won’t exaggerate my biological ties. I believe my maternal great grandfather immigrated from there but I never knew him or even my maternal grandmother. Still, it is the mother country for me, especially for religious reasons.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:08:13pm

re: #103 Testy Toad T

Completely anecdotally, in places where the weather is always trying to kill you, people band together more naturally. I think the Nordic welfare states are a good example, and the American deep south a nice counter.

FYIGM is an easier sell when striking out individually is something that won’t result in your being eaten by a bear.

Which is kind of interesting given many American Southerners are of Scottish origin. It is interesting to see the role of weather in the shaping of ideology. I have heard that theory by the way in regards to the Nordic welfare states but also American states with large numbers of their descendants i.e. Minnesota, and Wisconsin.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:08:14pm

re: #104 Kragar

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will the hillary campaign release an ad showing the made in china and made in mexico labels on trump products?

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:09:44pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Enraged the hell out of the Berniesphere on Twitter this morning. Again.

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I can’t look at the tweet you linked to. Can someone embed the tweet from Sanders?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:09:56pm

Something for HW:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:09:57pm

re: #108 Sir John Barron

Well I won’t exaggerate my biological ties. I believe my maternal great grandfather immigrated from there but I never knew him or even my maternal grandmother. Still, it is the mother country for me, especially for religious reasons.

Hey I have a special attachment to Ireland even though the last person in my family emigrated from there 130+ years before my birth. I always have liked the English people even if I’m not fond of what their government has done over the years.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:10:33pm

re: #101 Nyet

For me it was a full 180.

My overarching principle here: the EU must be as strong as circumstances allow.
So I was against the Scottish independence because in my opinion it was counterproductive to this goal.
With the UK’s madness and probable exit the strongest position for the EU is in accepting the former constituent states, salvaging what can be salvaged.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:11:17pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something for HW:

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Not surprising but then again polls said that remain would win in this case. I don’t blame them though. Being in the UK is all they’ve known. It’s why while I was definitely sympathetic towards the Scottish nationalists, I understood why some people wanted to stay part of the UK.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:12:06pm

re: #114 Nyet

My overarching principle here: the EU must be as strong as circumstances allow.
So I was against the Scottish independence because in my opinion it was counterproductive to this goal.
With the UK’s madness and probable exit the strongest position for the EU is in accepting the former constituent states, salvaging what can be salvaged.

Your principle stayed the same but the situation on the ground reversed your opinion on this particular issue in other words.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:12:29pm

re: #100 lawhawk

Back here in the States, major flooding throughout West Virginia. At least 14 dead, and that number is likely to rise. Quite a few communities are cut off and some areas are still in bad trouble with flooding after more than 10 inches of rain fell in places.

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Somebody posted footage of a burning house being washed downstream. Total Apocalypto

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:12:30pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Exactly!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:13:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:14:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:14:27pm

re: #118 Nyet

Exactly!

And I’d be right in assuming you see a strong EU as a strong balance to Putin and his allies which is why Trump’s glee for Britain to leave the EU was stupid as hell.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:15:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:15:59pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

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If it was, the urban areas of Scotland would have joined with the leaves. In fact, Scotland has probably been more negatively impacted by the loss of work in industrial areas than England has. It’s dishonest as hell to claim this and ignore the hostility towards immigration that does exist. And it’s not just Muslims that these bigots go after, it’s pretty much anyone who’s not an English speaker.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:16:14pm

re: #114 Nyet

My overarching principle here: the EU must be as strong as circumstances allow.
So I was against the Scottish independence because in my opinion it was counterproductive to this goal.
With the UK’s madness and probable exit the strongest position for the EU is in accepting the former constituent states, salvaging what can be salvaged.

The problem with Scottish independence seemed to be the unresolved issues: currency, trade and travel status, etc. Those issues need to be addressed in a very concrete manner if Scotland is going to move ahead on this matter.

I do not know the figures, but I assume that Scotland as a region benefits from the EU more than the UK taken as a whole. And I also believe that the Scottish are much more prepared to see themselves as Europeans than a lot of English (and Welsh)

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:16:41pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

And I’d be right in assuming you see a strong EU as a strong balance to Putin and his allies which is why Trump’s glee for Britain to leave the EU was stupid as hell.

You know my basic positions well.
And Trump is an un-American Putin-admirer, so why would he care.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:17:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:18:03pm

re: #125 Nyet

You know my basic positions well.
And Trump is an un-American Putin-admirer, so why would he care.

Yep, Trump sees Putin as a peer. Republican position certainly come a long way from McCain who I admit I dislike a lot saying he saw KGB in his eyes to Trump wanting to be Pooty’s buddy bud.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:18:09pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Just think of all the great job prospects if Americans would only work for 33¢/hr!

and just think how cheaply factories could produce if we observed Bangladeshi environmental and worker safety standards!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:18:21pm
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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:18:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:19:03pm

re: #126 lawhawk

OFFS

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And Trump is apparently seriously considering for VP I hear. Goddamn she’s a clueless bigoted moron.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:19:26pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

AED though, what makes Scotland so adverse to the Tories and it appears conservatism in general? Not really familiar with Scottish history in the years since they became part of Great Britain and then the UK. I do have tiny ties to Scotland, second great grandmother was born there but her family was all Irish and she left when she was pretty young.

Not AED, but I’ll hazard a guess here:

1. “Tories” having (slowly but surely) become identified with “English” - on a regional-cultural-politics level, therefore toxic.
2. “Tories” having become identified with Thatcherist economic policies (basically “IGMFY” on a nation-wide level) which grates on Scottish communal sensibilities - i.e., “We’re all in this together and ought to look after one another” seen my many/most Scots as a simple declaration of basic principles: and dismissed by UK Conservatives as dangerous radical nonsense.
3. Pure economic self-interest: a (vigorous) reaction against Tory polices regarding natural resources (i.e. North Sea oil) which boils down to: “Scotland is part of the UK: therefore you [Scots] have no right to any more oil revenue that the majority [non-Scots] wish to give you”
4. Ancient historic attitudes about English/Scottish relations (i.e. “English” are real, civilized people, Scots are violent drunken kilted barbarians who need to be “put in their place”“)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:20:15pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

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And a damn good job you’re doing too, I mean that. When I heard even when you were still right leaning but loudly condemning Eurofascism, I gained a lot of respect even if at the time we had a lot of opposing positions but I feel anyone who saw Eurofascists as dangerous was someone that had the right idea.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:20:53pm

re: #132 Jay C

Not AED, but I’ll hazard a guess here:

1. “Tories” having (slowly but surely) become identified with “English” - on a regional-cultural-politics level, therefore toxic.
2. “Tories” having become identified with Thatcherist economic policies (basically “IGMFY” on a nation-wide level) which grates on Scottish communal sensibilities - i.e., “We’re all in this together and ought to look after one another” seen my many/most Scots as a simple declaration of basic principles: and dismissed by UK Conservatives as radical nonsense.
3. Pure economic self-interest: a (vigorous) reaction against Tory polices regarding natural resources (i.e. North Sea oil) which boils down to: “Scotland is part of the UK: therefore you [Scots] have no right to any more oil revenue that the majority [non-Scots] wish to give you”
4. Ancient historic attitudes about English/Scottish relations (i.e. “English” are real, civilized people, Scots are violent drunken kilted barbarians who need to be “put in their place”“)

Makes sense to me.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:21:14pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

And Trump is apparently seriously considering for VP I hear. Goddamn she’s a clueless bigoted moron.

If he wants to hang that caribou around his neck…

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Tigger2  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:21:59pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

And Trump is apparently seriously considering for VP I hear. Goddamn she’s a clueless bigoted moron.

Yeah she’s the Know Nothing From The North.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:22:20pm

re: #135 Nyet

If he wants to hang that caribou around his neck…

Yeah he’d be a complete idiot to choose someone that the American people already decided we dislike.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:22:42pm

re: #136 Tigger2

Yeah she’s the Know nothing from the north.

Hey she reads the magazines, you know the ones with the words and the pictures.

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:23:38pm
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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:23:48pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

And Trump is apparently seriously considering for VP I hear. Goddamn she’s a clueless bigoted moron.

You are shitting me.

Lends credence to the theory that he’d try to insulate himself from impeachment by picking a VP who is even more obviously unqualified.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:23:57pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Hey she reads the magazines, you know the ones with the words and the pictures.

All of them.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:24:35pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Hey she reads the magazines, you know the ones with the words and the pictures.

The best magazines.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:26:06pm

Still painful.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:26:44pm

re: #140 Testy Toad T

You are shitting me.

Lends credence to the theory that he’d try to insulate himself from impeachment by picking a VP who is even more obviously unqualified.

Nope, saw someone post something about it the other day on FB.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:28:00pm

re: #143 Nyet

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She couldn’t name one Supreme Court other than Roe v Wade as I recall too. When McCain chose her, I thought hey interesting choice but then Sarah opened her mouth and proved that not only is she a mean spirited bigot, she’s an ignorant mean spirited bigot. I guess mean spirited bigot and ignorant mean spirited bigot are kind of one and the same though?

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:28:02pm

re: #142 Timothy Watson

The best magazines.

The glossiest, classiest, thickest magazines, printed on the stiffest, most luxurious paper. People tell me, Donald, these magazines have so many stories we get tired of readin’ ‘em, believe me!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:29:29pm

She claimed that Couric question was a “gotcha.” I mean she could have given an answer like the National Review and that still would have been a better answer than the one she gave but she couldn’t even give that as answer. They did spot a Bricher newsletter on her desk though I believe in another interview though.

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ShaunP  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:30:55pm

Is she still using “lame-stream media” as if it’s the greatest zinger ever?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:32:15pm

re: #130 Kragar

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I want that bumpersticker.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:32:27pm

Does anyone have a link to the exact link on the bill? May need it sometime to push back against talking points bullshit. I’m talking about the gun bill btw.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:32:30pm

re: #149 ShaunP

Is she still using “lame-stream media” as if it’s the greatest zinger ever?

I’ve seen some berniebros using it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:32:46pm

re: #149 ShaunP

Is she still using “lame-stream media” as if it’s the greatest zinger ever?

Wouldn’t surprise me.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:33:14pm

re: #152 Nyet

I’ve seen some berniebros using it.

The Bernie Bro-Sarah Palin convergence. Lovely.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:33:38pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

She couldn’t name one Supreme Court other than Roe v Wade as I recall too. When McCain chose her, I thought hey interesting choice but then Sarah opened her mouth and proved that not only is she a mean spirited bigot, she’s an ignorant mean spirited bigot. I guess mean spirited bigot and ignorant mean spirited bigot are kind of one and the same though?

You know, it’s not even that she’s ignorant. It’s that she’s stupid. Ignorance, even willful ignorance can be addressed with information. Stupid can’t. Now I know that it’s not nice to call someone stupid, and generally I agree we shouldn’t shit on people for things that aren’t their fault. But this is someone whom a distressingly large fraction of the electorate thought would be a good person to run the most powerful nation in history, at a time when we faced one of the worst economic crises we’ve ever faced, and she’s not even smart enough to reliably add 2 and 2.

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ShaunP  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:34:01pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

The Bernie Bro-Sarah Palin convergence. Lovely.

First Brexit, now this…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:35:16pm

re: #155 Blind Frog Belly White

You know, it’s not even that she’s ignorant. It’s that she’s stupid. Ignorance, even willful ignorance can be addressed with information. Stupid can’t. Now I know that it’s not nice to call someone stupid, and generally I agree we shouldn’t shit on people for things that aren’t their fault. But this is someone whom a distressingly large fraction of the electorate thought would be a good person to run the most powerful nation in history, at a time when we faced one of the worst economic crises we’ve ever faced, and she’s not even smart enough to reliably add 2 and 2.

That is a good point. When I say I’m ignorant on a subject, it’s a subject I may not know a lot about but I am willing to educate myself on. Palin as you say is stupid and that would be fine if she weren’t chosen to be VP by McCain and pushed out by Trump as a surrogate.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:35:35pm

re: #156 ShaunP

First Brexit, now this…

To be fair, it’s just words but still.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:35:39pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

AED though, what makes Scotland so adverse to the Tories and it appears conservatism in general? Not really familiar with Scottish history in the years since they became part of Great Britain and then the UK. I do have tiny ties to Scotland, second great grandmother was born there but her family was all Irish and she left when she was pretty young.

Scotland was a country of small farmers, laborers, dockworkers and coal miners, not the sort of constituency the Tories appealed to. And the Tories certainly screwed Scotland over massively during the Thatcher era, for which they have never been forgiven.

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ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:36:03pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

She claimed that Couric question was a “gotcha.” I mean she could have given an answer like the National Review and that still would have been a better answer than the one she gave but she couldn’t even give that as answer. They did spot a Bricher newsletter on her desk though I believe in another interview though.

Every damn question is a gotcha to Palin. And seriously, to Trump too.

Trump could buy his way past being known as a dumb ass. I am thinking it is one of the reasons he is the way he is. He blusters his way past his limitations. It most likely drove him all his career knowing he didn’t know shit but he had the money to make more money to give the false impression he was some great businessman. To be a billionaire you have to be smart right?

Now in the light of the public eye there are questions about how much a billionaire he is or isn’t and it is becoming obvious he is not all that smart.

Palin. Princess Dumbass.

Trump. King of Dumbasses.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:37:02pm

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Scotland was a country of small farmers, laborers, dockworkers and coal miners, not the sort of constituency the Tories appealed to. And the Tories certainly screwed Scotland over massively during the Thatcher era, for which they have never been forgiven.

True but plenty of ours happily vote Republican and they likewise haev been screwed by conservative policy. I just wonder why the Scots and to their credit have not fallen for the politics of racial and immigrant resentment like English working class folks and indeed many American ones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:37:41pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

She couldn’t name one Supreme Court other than Roe v Wade as I recall too. When McCain chose her, I thought hey interesting choice but then Sarah opened her mouth and proved that not only is she a mean spirited bigot, she’s an ignorant mean spirited bigot. I guess mean spirited bigot and ignorant mean spirited bigot are kind of one and the same though?

She couldn’t even remember the Valdez SCOTUS opinion that had JUST HAPPENED and for which her administration submitted a brief.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:38:22pm

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Scotland was a country of small farmers, laborers, dockworkers and coal miners, not the sort of constituency the Tories appealed to. And the Tories certainly screwed Scotland over massively during the Thatcher era, for which they have never been forgiven.

Did they not like the poll tax?

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:39:04pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

True but plenty of ours happily vote Republican and they likewise haev been screwed by conservative policy.

Scotland never had the cotton gin.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:39:35pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

She couldn’t even remember the Valdez SCOTUS opinion that had JUST HAPPENED and for which her administration submitted a brief.

That’s pretty damn bad. Her whole presence reminds me of how when Nixon made a particularly bad USSC pick, a Republican Senator defended it because we have a lot of mediocre teachers, doctors, and lawyers so why not a mediocre USSC justice. I’ll never forgive or respect McCain again for the Palin pick. He did NOT have to pick her. The lie that it was either Lieberman or Palin is revisionist nonsense.

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ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:40:03pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

She couldn’t even remember the Valdez SCOTUS opinion that had JUST HAPPENED and for which someone in her administration submitted a brief.

Added two words.

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:40:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:40:21pm

re: #163 Timothy Watson

Did they not like the poll tax?

That was a Thatcher thing right? If so, I understand completely why there were some people who were actually giddy when she died.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:41:34pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

That was a Thatcher thing right? If so, I understand completely why there were some people who were actually giddy when she died.

Yeah, there was rioting in parts of Britain over it, wasn’t sure if there was any in Scotland off the top of my head.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:41:42pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

I just wonder why the Scots and to their credit have not fallen for the politics of racial and immigrant resentment like English working class folks and indeed many American ones.

Not, I’m sure that at least some of them have: but just to hazard a guess, it may be because the Scots, historically, have been the victims of said politics more often than they’ve been the beneficiaries?

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:41:46pm

re: #160 ObserverArt

Ser Orange of Dumbassery

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:42:06pm

If you’re on Twitter, this guy needs to be reported - his timeline is full of death threats.

@mark_mpa642

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:42:39pm

re: #169 Timothy Watson

Yeah, there was rioting in parts of Britain over it, wasn’t sure if there was any in Scotland off the top of my head.

I really do need to read more. I knew Thatcher was notorious for busting the coal miners unions, which hits very close to home to me given what my mom’s two grandfathers did for a living and knowing that the Tories who championed that shit never had to work as hard as those men did.

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ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:42:44pm

It is sort of fun though, watching Republican candidates going to the Brit Isles and making complete asses of themselves and limping home failed at trying to seem worldly and up on international politics.

Mitt Romney. Scott Walker. Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:43:08pm

re: #170 Jay C

Not, I’m sure that at least some of them have: but just to hazard a guess, it may be because the Scots, historically, have been the victims of said politics more often than they’ve been the beneficiaries?

That’s a good point. I’m getting it now more, thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:43:34pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

That was a Thatcher thing right? If so, I understand completely why there were some people who were actually giddy when she died.

You might find this interesting:
Margaret Thatcher’s legacy in Scotland, 25 years after her downfall

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:43:56pm

re: #163 Timothy Watson

Did they not like the poll tax?

Absofuckinglutely not

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:44:04pm

re: #174 ObserverArt

It is sort of fun though, watching Republican candidates going to the Brit Isles and making complete asses of themselves and limping home failed at trying to seem worldly and up on international politics.

Mitt Romney. Scott Walker. Trump.

Maybe they should check people’s party registration upon entry to the UK. Really seems ot be a habit for Republicans to make complete shits out of themselves visiting our greatest ally. Meanwhile never seems to be a problem for Democrats.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:44:16pm

re: #169 Timothy Watson

Yeah, there was rioting in parts of Britain over it, wasn’t sure if there was any in Scotland off the top of my head.

Thatcher Thatcher milk snatcher.

Morrissey - Margaret on the Guillotine

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:44:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:45:36pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

You might find this interesting:
Margaret Thatcher’s legacy in Scotland, 25 years after her downfall

Extremely so, thank you.

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Reality Based Steve  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:46:17pm

re: #48 lawhawk

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Dow down 500 points, major companies see their net worth slashed. Investors, including anyone with a 401k, see their savings slashed in a single day.

So what’s Trump rambling on about? Oh yeah, how he managed to maintain a golf course in Scotland. Oh, and he’s traveling without foreign advisers, because who needs ‘em?

He doesn’t need foreign advisers, they all speak English there. Duh.

RBS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:47:25pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

True but plenty of ours happily vote Republican and they likewise haev been screwed by conservative policy. I just wonder why the Scots and to their credit have not fallen for the politics of racial and immigrant resentment like English working class folks and indeed many American ones.

A large number of immigrants to Scotland are Polish and eastern European.
A not insignificant number of Poles have Scottish ancestry, dating back to the 1600s.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:47:45pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:48:10pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

She couldn’t name one Supreme Court other than Roe v Wade as I recall too. When McCain chose her, I thought hey interesting choice but then Sarah opened her mouth and proved that not only is she a mean spirited bigot, she’s an ignorant mean spirited bigot. I guess mean spirited bigot and ignorant mean spirited bigot are kind of one and the same though?

And right at the time the question was asked the Supreme Ct decision on Exxon Valdez came down. That was right in her back yard.

She’s always been & always will be an idiot.

(gah I’m behind!)

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:48:36pm

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

yeah but this will sure show those damn elites!!!1

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:48:59pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

A large number of immigrants to Scotland are Polish and eastern European.
A not insignificant number of Poles have Scottish ancestry, dating back to the 1600s.

Relating to a lot of the Catholics that fled the UK during the Civil War period right? Being more versed in Irish history, I am familiar with the Flight of the Wild Geese but less so in the Scots who also fled.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:49:13pm

re: #169 Timothy Watson

Yeah, there was rioting in parts of Britain over it, wasn’t sure if there was any in Scotland off the top of my head.

I recall that she was none too popular in the north, in places like Sheffield.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:49:15pm

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

Sounds just like the South here.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:49:18pm

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

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There is a long Anglo Saxon tradition of cutting of your nose to spite your face.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:49:58pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

She couldn’t even remember the Valdez SCOTUS opinion that had JUST HAPPENED and for which her administration submitted a brief.

Tsk, details.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:50:09pm

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

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That’s not unlike the Republican districts here who repeatedly vote for people who oppose federal relief. I hate to sound paternalistic but it really seems to me that so much of conservatism in this world involves less well people voting against their better interests.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:51:05pm

re: #86 Sir John Barron

Yeah, same here.

Scotland leaving is the Pragmatic choice now.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:51:07pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:51:21pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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Not The Onion?

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darthstar  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:51:24pm

So I’m listening to the Brexit news this morning, and a woman from France is talking to MSNBC and she lays down the following line, and the interviewer didn’t even catch it. She said, “Americans think of France and say, I love the food, I love the culture…but there’s a dark side to France and it’s just as ugly as the one in the UK and US.”

I looked at my mother in law, whom I was driving to the airport and said, “Did she just insult us?” “Yes,” she said, “I believe she did.” and we both laughed.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:51:43pm

re: #188 Barefoot Grin

I recall that she was none too popular in the north, in places like Sheffield.

I have heard that too. Not too popular among NI’s Catholics too. In my observations, a lot of the people who seem to venerate her are Americans who also worship Reagan. I mean no doubt Thatcher isn’t universally hated in Britain but she’s definitely more controversial there than she is here where she seems to be seen as Reagan’s buddy.

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ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:51:49pm

re: #185 Stanley Sea

And right at the time the question was asked the Supreme Ct decision on Exxon Valdez came down. That was right in her back yard.

She’s always been & always will be an idiot,

But what a bod, eh?

Gag! I know too many guys that were thinking with the small head regarding Palin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:51:52pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Relating to a lot of the Catholics that fled the UK during the Civil War period right? Being more versed in Irish history, I am familiar with the Flight of the Wild Geese but less so in the Scots who also fled.

Actually it was Scottish traders, as well as Highlanders/soldiers who were disenchanted with Cromwell and went to fight in Poland.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:52:11pm

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

Regions with the biggest votes for Leave are also the most economically dependent on the EU

Just like the USofA, red states are the ones most dependent on government transfer payments and benefits.

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:52:20pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:52:41pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Scotland is very welcoming to Muslims in fact.

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darthstar  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:53:32pm

re: #202 Ziggy_TARDIS

Scotland is very welcoming to Muslims in fact.

Come for the haggis…stay for the blistering cold winds.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:53:56pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

I have heard that too. Not too popular among NI’s Catholics too. In my observations, a lot of the people who seem to venerate her are Americans who also worship Reagan. I mean no doubt Thatcher isn’t universally hated in Britain but she’s definitely more controversial there than she is here where she seems to be seen as Reagan’s buddy.

An extremely polarizing figure who came into a pretty bad situation and made it a lot better for a lot of people. The rest of the people, not so much… but it’s not obvious even in hindsight that things could be fixed for the entire population.

As I understand the history from afar, anyway. I was in diapers at the time.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:54:01pm

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually is was Scottish traders, as well as Highlanders/soldiers who were disenchanted with Cromwell and went to fight in Poland.

Gotcha. Interesting stuff. That was the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth I want to say. Now I’m genuinely curious about what the Presov part of Slovakia that you and I both have family from was part of during that time period as well as modern Slovenia.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:54:29pm

re: #136 Tigger2

A Know Northing!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:54:38pm

re: #132 Jay C

To me, #4 seems to be reversed no.

Scotland also had the Clan/Tribe Culture, so there is also the thing of having to always be a part of something bigger too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:54:56pm

re: #204 Testy Toad T

An extremely polarizing figure who came into a pretty bad situation and made it a lot better for a lot of people. The rest of the people, not so much… but it’s not obvious even in hindsight that things could be fixed for the entire population.

As I understand the history from afar, anyway. I was in diapers at the time.

Right. I was only a few years old when she left.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:55:34pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Because they have had it at the hands of the English for Centuries.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:55:46pm

re: #207 Ziggy_TARDIS

To me, #4 seems to be reversed no.

Scotland also had the Clan/Tribe Culture, so there is also the thing of having to always be a part of something bigger too.

I think that’s part of why Irish-Americans felt so natural with organized labor on another note.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:56:03pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Gotcha. Interesting stuff. That was the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth I want to say. Now I’m genuinely curious about what the Presov part of Slovakia that you and I both have family from was part of during that time period as well as modern Slovenia.

according to wiki, also, there’s this little factoid:

“Bonnie Prince Charlie” was half Polish, being the son of James Stuart, the “Old Pretender”, and Clementina Sobieska, granddaughter of Jan Sobieski, King of Poland.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:56:48pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Relating to a lot of the Catholics that fled the UK during the Civil War period right? Being more versed in Irish history, I am familiar with the Flight of the Wild Geese but less so in the Scots who also fled.

The Covenant Period (and related Scottish Civil War) in Scotland during the English Civil War was real freaking weird. I still don’t have a good handle on it, but it supposedly started with a woman named Jenny Geddes chucking a folding stool at a cleric during church service over opposition to the Book of Prayer in use:

The first use of the prayer book was in St Giles’ on Sunday 23 July 1637, when James Hannay, Dean of Edinburgh, began to read the Collects, part of the prescribed service, and Jenny Geddes, a market-woman or street-seller, threw her stool straight at the Minister’s head. Some sources describe it as a “fald stool” or a “creepie-stool” meaning a folding stool as shown flying towards the Dean in the illustration, while others claim that it was a larger, three-legged cuttie-stool. As she hurled the stool she is reported to have yelled:

“De’il gie you colic, the wame o’ ye, fause thief; daur ye say Mass in my lug?” meaning “Devil cause you colic in your stomach, false thief: dare you say the Mass in my ear?”.

This was the start of a general tumult with much of the congregation shouting abuse and throwing Bibles, stools, sticks and stones. Prebble reports the phrase “Daur ye say Mass in my lug?” as being addressed to a gentleman in the congregation who murmured a dutiful response to the liturgy, getting thumped with a Bible for his pains, and describes Jenny as one of a number of “waiting-women” who were paid to arrive early and sit on their folding stools to hold a place for their patrons. The rioters were ejected by officers summoned by the Provost, but for the rest of the service hammered at the doors and threw stones at the windows.

More serious rioting in the streets (and in other cities) followed, and the Provost and magistrates were besieged in the City Chambers, to the extent that it became necessary to negotiate with the Edinburgh mob. At the suggestion of the Lord Advocate it appointed a committee known as the Tables to negotiate with the Privy Council. Characteristically, Charles turned down the Tables’ demands for withdrawal of the Anglican liturgy and more riots ensued with talk of civil war. This led to widespread signing of the National Covenant in February 1638, with its defiance of any attempt to introduce innovations like the Prayer Book that had not first been subject to the scrutiny of Parliament and the General Assembly of the Church. In November of the same year, the bishops and archbishops were formally expelled from the Church of Scotland, which was then established on a full Presbyterian basis. Charles reacted by launching the Bishops’ Wars, thus beginning the Wars of Three Kingdoms.

In the aftermath of the riots definitive evidence is hard to come by, and some doubt if Jenny Geddes started the fight or if she even existed, but she remains a part of Edinburgh tradition and has long had a memorial in St Giles. The sculpture which was added recently shows a three-legged cuttie-stool rather than a folding stool.

Much hilarity ensued, mostly involving copious bloodshed and the usual religious persecution.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:56:48pm

re: #209 Ziggy_TARDIS

Because they have had it at the hands of the English for Centuries.

Good point but what’s sad is some of those that went to Northern Ireland ended up being that way to the people there. Not saying all Scots obviously or that the Irish Catholics were choir boys.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:57:56pm

re: #212 Aunty Entity Dragon

The Covenant Period (and related Scottish Civil War) in Scotland during the English Civil War was real freaking weird. I still don’t have a good handle on it, but it supposedly started with a woman named Jenny Geddes chucking a folding stool at a cleric during church service over opposition to the Book of Prayer in use:

Much hilarity ensued, mostly involving copious bloodshed and the usual religious persecution.

Throwing a stool? Ha reminds me of the old article I found on my great grandfather getting into some serious trouble for apparently throwing a slate at a teacher.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:58:29pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I hate to sound paternalistic but it really seems to me that so much of conservatism in this world involves less well people voting against their better interests.

Because, almost universally, the “voting against” is pitched to that portion of the electorate who take it for granted, almost universally, that any negative aspects of their votes will be borne entirely by Underserving Others, and that any benefits thereby will accrue mainly to themselves. IOW, in its simplest terms,”HELP US, HURT THEM!!!

Values for “US” and “THEM” vary by location….

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:58:31pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

according to wiki, also, there’s this little factoid:

And IIRC, Charles I’s wife or mother was from Bohemia.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 12:58:55pm

re: #196 darthstar

It seems to be that, in many ways, the US and France are incredibly alike in terms of behaviour.

I wonder if that is some of the reason for the friction at times.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:00:00pm

I guess not being of British origin, I never really was aware of the hostility that the Scots felt in the UK and GB. As you all know, I’m pretty well read about the Irish history given that’s my background and know all about Daniel O’Connell, the Famine, and the Penal Laws but I am not nearly as familiar with the struggles the Scots had.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:01:06pm

re: #203 darthstar

Come for the haggis…stay for the blistering cold winds.

So an old fellow was explaining the weather to us in Fort WIlliam on the West coast: “If ye can see the summit of yon Ben Nevis, that means its aboot tae rain. If ye cannae see Ben Nevis, that means it’s rainin’ awready!”

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:01:43pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:01:50pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

Throwing a stool? Ha reminds me of the old article I found on my great grandfather getting into some serious trouble for apparently throwing a slate at a teacher.

Jenny’s infraction was a little more serious, considering she was accusing church officials of heresy and apostasy.

That was not something done lightly in the 17th century. It was the sort of thing that ended in body counts.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:01:52pm

UK, EU Divorce Negotiations Underway

eu to keep car, both houses, and scotland

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:02:07pm

re: #202 Ziggy_TARDIS

Scotland is very welcoming to Muslims in fact.

You know come to think of it whenever I read about the nativism in the UK, it’s always in the English cities more so than the Scottish ones. There’s not a Scottish eqiv of the EDL- English Defense League that I know of.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:02:25pm

re: #221 Aunty Entity Dragon

Jenny’s infraction was a little more serious, considering she was accusing church officials of heresy and apostasy.

That was not something done lightly in the 17th century. It was the sort of thing that ended in body counts.

Especially by a woman.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:02:36pm

re: #220 Kragar

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Bernie can fuck off and keep fucking off.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:02:52pm

re: #222 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

UK, EU Divorce Negotiations Underway

eu to keep car, both houses, and scotland

England gets to keep the cuisine and the weird Welsh placenames.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:03:15pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

according to wiki, also, there’s this little factoid:

“Bonnie Prince Charlie” was half Polish, being the son of James Stuart, the “Old Pretender”, and Clementina Sobieska, granddaughter of Jan Sobieski, King of Poland.

And the custom of wearing a clan tartan (one that had never existed in ancient Scotland), was introduced in the early 1800’s by two Scottish impostors, claiming to be bastard sons of Bonnie Prince Charlie, who foisted a forged book on ancient Gaelic clothing to a willing romantically inclined public.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:03:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:04:06pm

re: #220 Kragar

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I’d take this more seriously if he was working on the platform rather than a petty vendetta over closed primaries. FFS Bernie, she’s considering Elizabeth Warren as her running mate. Despite what you may want, she’s not going to do your tactics on Wall Street because frankly your tactics on Wall Street are foolish.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:04:44pm

Every stock I look at in my iPhone Stocks app is in the red.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:05:03pm

re: #220 Kragar

Every time he does this, I think back to 2008.

Every time he does this, I appreciate even more what Hillary did then.

Every time he does this, I am even more excited to vote for someone who has the class and the temperament to be graceful even in defeat, because shit is not always going to go America’s way.

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TK-421  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:05:18pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:05:18pm

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Bonnie Prince Charlie” was half Polish, being the son of James Stuart, the “Old Pretender”, and Clementina Sobieska, granddaughter of Jan Sobieski, King of Poland.

And the custom of wearing a clan tartan (one that had never existed in ancient Scotland), was introduced in the early 1800’s by two Scottish impostors, claiming to be bastard sons of Bonnie Prince Charlie, who foisted a forged book on ancient Gaelic clothing to a willing romantically inclined public.

I did know about the Tartans being relatively new but not about them being introduced by royal pretenders.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:06:00pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

Every stock I look at in my iPhone Stocks app is in the red.

The answer to today is to not look.

Seriously, not kidding. Shit is going to even out, but for the average person looking today is just going to make you feel worse.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:06:45pm

re: #231 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Every time he does this, I think back to 2008.

Every time he does this, I appreciate even more what Hillary did then.

Every time he does this, I am even more excited to vote for someone who has the class and the temperament to be graceful even in defeat, because shit is not always going to go America’s way.

Indeed this so much. I have to admit there was a lot that rubbed me the wrong way about Clinton in 2008 but after seeing how she went to bat for Obama and then served admirably as his Secretary of State, she definitely went up in my eyes even if I wasn’t at that time 100% on board with her being the candidate. 8 years later, total 180, I’m happy to be with her.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:06:47pm

re: #204 Testy Toad T

An extremely polarizing figure who came into a pretty bad situation and made it a lot better for a lot of people. The rest of the people, not so much… but it’s not obvious even in hindsight that things could be fixed for the entire population.

As I understand the history from afar, anyway. I was in diapers at the time.

Part of the reason Thatcher’s hated is that she went out of the way to blame poor people for being poor and the jobless for being jobless, while implementing policy that made it harder for them to be anything but poor and jobless.

She also governed during one of those flare-ups of British nationalism where you could get away with more if you attacked a brown person..though she herself stayed at arm’s distance, though her opinion on saving South Africa from the vengeful communist blacks was pretty clear…and she was an innovator in accusing gay people of being predatory dangers to society.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:07:01pm

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Bonnie Prince Charlie” was half Polish, being the son of James Stuart, the “Old Pretender”, and Clementina Sobieska, granddaughter of Jan Sobieski, King of Poland.

And the custom of wearing a clan tartan (one that had never existed in ancient Scotland), was introduced in the early 1800’s by two Scottish impostors, claiming to be bastard sons of Bonnie Prince Charlie, who foisted a forged book on ancient Gaelic clothing to a willing romantically inclined public.

Yep. Tartans were regional according to whatever dye you had on hand. Tartan overall had a Scottish identification (hence the possession of tartan cloth was banned after Culloden) but there were no official clan tartans until those two imposters made them up out of thin air.

Based on that, the designs were more or less adopted as official. Everybody sort of shrugged and said “Alright” and went with it.

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:07:43pm

On NPR this morning they were talking to some Europeans about who else might leave the EU. The German woman they had on said, ‘I don’t think you have to worry about a Gerxit.’ Everyone agreed that was a good thing, if only because the word is so bad.

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:08:13pm

re: #132 Jay C

Not AED, but I’ll hazard a guess here:

1. “Tories” having (slowly but surely) become identified with “English” - on a regional-cultural-politics level, therefore toxic.
2. “Tories” having become identified with Thatcherist economic policies (basically “IGMFY” on a nation-wide level) which grates on Scottish communal sensibilities - i.e., “We’re all in this together and ought to look after one another” seen my many/most Scots as a simple declaration of basic principles: and dismissed by UK Conservatives as dangerous radical nonsense.
3. Pure economic self-interest: a (vigorous) reaction against Tory polices regarding natural resources (i.e. North Sea oil) which boils down to: “Scotland is part of the UK: therefore you [Scots] have no right to any more oil revenue that the majority [non-Scots] wish to give you”
4. Ancient historic attitudes about English/Scottish relations (i.e. “English” are real, civilized people, Scots are violent drunken kilted barbarians who need to be “put in their place”“)

Add to that that Britain and the EU across the board has decided to implement extreme austerity measures in the last 4 or 5 years which hurt real people and benefited banks, etc. (simplistic but true) I think this was a big bite back to those conservative austerity initiatives.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:08:14pm

re: #236 The Ghost of a Flea

Part of the reason Thatcher’s hated is that she went out of the way to blame poor people for being poor and the jobless for being jobless, while implementing policy that made it harder for them to be anything but poor and jobless.

She also governed during one of those flare-ups of British nationalism where you could get away with more if you attacked a brown person..though she herself stayed at arm’s distance, though her opinion on saving South Africa from the vengeful communist blacks was pretty clear…and she was an innovator in accusing gay people of being predatory dangers to society.

Thanks, seems like I have good reasons for not being a fan. Really seems like a British Reagan though more aptly Ronnie is an American Thatcher as Thatcher got into office first.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:08:53pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

So, Obama’s fault then…. /

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:08:57pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I did know about the Tartans being relatively new but not about them being introduced by royal pretenders.

Plaid cloth is not new, since it was associated with Celts dating before Roman times. Actual official tartan patterns? Never existed before the two brothers made them up.

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:09:38pm

re: #140 Testy Toad T

You are shitting me.

Lends credence to the theory that he’d try to insulate himself from impeachment by picking a VP who is even more obviously unqualified.

I haven’t heard Palin as much (other than a throw away name) as much as Rick Scott, Christie and…I forget his name, another RW guy.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:10:28pm

re: #236 The Ghost of a Flea

Part of the reason Thatcher’s hated is that she went out of the way to blame poor people for being poor and the jobless for being jobless, while implementing policy that made it harder for them to be anything but poor and jobless.

She also governed during one of those flare-ups of British nationalism where you could get away with more if you attacked a brown person..though she herself stayed at arm’s distance, though her opinion on saving South Africa from the vengeful communist blacks was pretty clear…and she was an innovator in accusing gay people of being predatory dangers to society.

She was also one of the defenders of the Pinochet military dictatorship in Chile.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:10:38pm

re: #242 Aunty Entity Dragon

Plaid cloth is not new, since it was associated with Celts dating before Roman times. Actual official tartan patterns? Never existed before the two brothers made them up.

Right, that’s what I mean. The whole patterns and making them unique based on your clan. I think there’s something similiar with Aran Island sweaters in Ireland. I was looking for a good Aran Island sweater and they had one in one of my Irish surnames (Joyce) but I think that concept is new and the people of Aran just made do with what they had. Ended up getting a nice basic gray one at the Shannon Airport.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:11:09pm

From The Lives Of Shitheads, Part MMMXIVXC. The headline should be enough:

Rosario Dawson Is Ready to Get Arrested at the Democratic National Convention

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:11:14pm

re: #244 Aunty Entity Dragon

She was also one of the defenders of the Pinochet military dictatorship in Chile.

So much that she offered him asylum I believe.

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TK-421  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:12:02pm

‘Made a Mistake’: Watch British Pol Stunningly Admit the #Leave Promises Now Won’t Happen

ITV’s Susanna Reid cornered Farage directly on the morning show Good Morning Britain alongside her cohost Piers Morgan. “The 350 million pounds a week we send to the EU, which we will no longer send to the EU, can you guarantee that’s going to go to the NHS?” pressed Reid (the National Health Service is a public healthcare system in Britain, and the 350 pounds figure equates to about 481 million USD).

And now, on the precipice of world history having just raised the bright flag of victory, Farage began his backtrack. “No I can’t, and I never would have made that claim,” he responded. “One of the mistakes that the Leave campaign made…” he continued before being shut down by Reid.

“That was one of the Leave campaign adverts! That that money was going to go to NHS! That’s why people — many people — voted!” she said incredulously.

“They made a mistake in doing that,” admitted Farage. Although the idea that all of the 350 million pounds would be able to be redirected back into the NHS, the pro-Leave claim has its doubters.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:12:04pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:13:03pm

re: #242 Aunty Entity Dragon

Plaid cloth is not new, since it was associated with Celts dating before Roman times. Actual official tartan patterns? Never existed before the two brothers made them up.

mr. klys has a gorgeous kilt of a tartan designed to raise money to try and save the Scottish wildcat. Mmmmmmm, it’s so pretty. And swishy.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:13:31pm

re: #248 TK-421

‘Made a Mistake’: Watch British Pol Stunningly Admit the #Leave Promises Now Won’t Happen

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Given that Farrage admires Paul and son, it’s not a shock at all that he could caer less about the health care system.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:13:59pm

re: #242 Aunty Entity Dragon

Plaid cloth is not new, since it was associated with Celts dating before Roman times. Actual official tartan patterns? Never existed before the two brothers made them up.

I know this, but it didn’t stop me wearing a Douglas plaid shirt today, to show solidarity with my Scottish cousins, and because it’s what was clean and ironed.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:14:15pm

OT but I am hella proud of myself so I’m sharing anyway.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:14:24pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Thanks, seems like I have good reasons for not being a fan. Really seems like a British Reagan though more aptly Ronnie is an American Thatcher as Thatcher got into office first.

Funny thing is, the Tories that loved Thatcher hated Reagan as a soft-headed, overly-sentimental mess.

It was weird to be an American kid there. Lots of nastiness from adults, and then their kids repeated it. Didn’t help that the first friend I made was Kenyan, and thus down for double of whatever I got.

Got weirder when I developed an Oxford accent. Then I got to overhear stuff.

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:14:37pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:15:02pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I have background from all parts of the Isles, so I have some familiarity.

I have background from clans McCartney, McKay, Wallace, and the Stewart Family in my background, along with one from from the Orkneys (The Norse-Scot Orcadians), and possible links to Perthshire.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:15:48pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

And IIRC, Charles I’s wife or mother was from Bohemia.

Not really. Charles I’s mother was Anne of Denmark, whose descent was almost entirely Danish and German (except for a “Polish” great-great-grandmother), his wife was Henrietta Maria of France, who was mainly French and Italian by blood (except, again, for a “Bohemian” g-g-m).

But since 17th-Century royalty almost invariably had little-to-no “native” blood in them, it shouldn’t much count against her…

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ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:16:02pm

re: #243 MsJ

I haven’t heard Palin as much (other than a throw away name) as much as Rick Scott, Christie and…I forget his name, another RW guy.

Jeff Sessions?

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:16:51pm

re: #253 klys (maker of Silmarils)

OT but I am hella proud of myself so I’m sharing anyway.

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Good job!

I would trip in those. They look comfy, though.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:17:02pm

re: #254 The Ghost of a Flea

Funny thing is, the Tories that loved Thatcher hated Reagan as a soft-headed, overly-sentimental mess.

It was weird to be an American kid there. Lots of nastiness from adults, and then their kids repeated it. Didn’t help that the first friend I made was Kenyan, and thus down for double of whatever I got.

Got weirder when I developed an Oxford accent. Then I got to overhear stuff.

Yeah it seems to me that Thatcher didn’t think much of Reagan. Sucks that oyu had to go through the bigotry. Do you still have the Oxford accent today? It’s interesting to hear my two cousins who each have children that they’re raising in Britain since their accents are definitely British but perhaps not quite. I’ve definitely noticed that my cousins themselves have adapted small British accents and definitely use the slang and spelling. My one cousin was always a bit of an Anglophile anyhow.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:17:03pm

re: #242 Aunty Entity Dragon

Plaid cloth is not new, since it was associated with Celts dating before Roman times. Actual official tartan patterns? Never existed before the two brothers made them up.

I remember seeing a documentary wherein mummified bodies in northwestern China (along the silk roads) had reddish hair and wore plaids (probably from around the latter Han dynasty, or roughly the mid-late Roman empire era).

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:17:11pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:17:15pm

Oh look who’s gloating about Brexit, some random guy without a Twitter checkmark

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:18:12pm

re: #257 Jay C

Not really. Charles I’s mother was Anne of Denmark, whose descent was almost entirely Danish and German (except for a “Polish” great-great-grandmother), his wife was Henrietta Maria of France, who was mainly French and Italian by blood (except, again, for a “Bohemian” g-g-m).

But since 17th-Century royalty almost invariably had little-to-no “native” blood in them, it shouldn’t much count against her…

D’oh yeah that was stupid of me. I keep on forgetting that with monarchs. Wasn’t tehre someone who marreid an Anne of Bohemia though or maybe one of the Stuarts married a Bohemian monarch.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:18:33pm

re: #259 wrenchwench

Good job!

I would trip in those. They look comfy, though.

I’ve got a blister on the back of my heel from the heel cap, but I’m hoping that as I do more in them that area will callous up. I really like them overall - a lot better than the flip-flops I was running in. >.> Which are also a men’s size 9 (that’s what was comfiest when I tried stuff on) while these are a men’s size 5…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:18:49pm

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look who’s gloating about Brexit, some random guy without a Twitter checkmark

a random guy without a clue, too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:18:53pm

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look who’s gloating about Brexit, some random guy without a Twitter checkmark

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He’ll see who is laughing when he loses a lot of money.

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Reality Based Steve  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:19:51pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

D’oh yeah that was stupid of me. I keep on forgetting that with monarchs. Wasn’t tehre someone who marreid an Anne of Bohemia though or maybe one of the Stuarts married a Bohemian monarch.

Queen did a Bohemian Rhapsody, is that what you’re thinking of?

RBS

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:20:16pm

re: #265 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ve got a blister on the back of my heel from the heel cap, but I’m hoping that as I do more in them that area will callous up. I really like them overall - a lot better than the flip-flops I was running in. >.> Which are also a men’s size 9 (that’s what was comfiest when I tried stuff on) while these are a men’s size 5…

I win! My feet are bigger!

Wait a sec….

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TK-421  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:20:36pm

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

With a globally branded beer sign in the background.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:21:11pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

The German woman they had on said, ‘I don’t think you have to worry about a Gerxit.’ Everyone agreed that was a good thing, if only because the word is so bad.

Maybe they should go with their own formulation and call it the “Dausfahrt”???

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:21:12pm

re: #269 wrenchwench

I win! My feet are bigger!

Wait a sec….

As long as they don’t make *fwap..fwap..fwap* sounds when you walk, you’re fine.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:21:22pm

re: #261 Barefoot Grin

I remember seeing a documentary wherein mummified bodies in northwestern China (along the silk roads) had reddish hair and wore plaids (probably from around the latter Han dynasty, or roughly the mid-late Roman empire era).

I remember my co-worker from Taiwan telling me something simliar to that. That’s another thing most Americans don’t realize. China is NOT a single ethnicity country. It was pretty neat though, I met some of his friends one day when we did a basketball game on an off day and they were all like him from Taiwan but from different ethnic backgrounds within China since Taiwan as we know is full of people who fled the mainland following the rise of Mao. I really liked working with him. He taught me a lot about China. Super nice guy too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:21:32pm

re: #268 Reality Based Steve

Queen did a Bohemian Rhapsody, is that what you’re thinking of?

RBS

Get outta here.

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:21:55pm
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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:21:55pm

re: #271 Jay C

Maybe they should go with their own formulation and call it the “Dausfahrt”???

Simply Dexit.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:22:15pm
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Teukka  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:22:31pm

Instagram

UK shoots itself in the foot. #eureferendum #brexit #EU

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:23:08pm

re: #276 Nyet

Simply Dexit.

I like “Gerxit” - presumably pronounced “Jerks-It”.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:23:21pm

re: #277 Nyet

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You know, I think you can tell a lot by something by who supports or opposes it. Take the gun sit in, seeing that John Lewis was behind it comforted me. Seeing that a who’s who in Eurofascists loves the Euexit troubles me.

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:23:45pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:24:11pm

re: #279 Blind Frog Belly White

I like “Gerxit” - presumably pronounced “Jerks-It”.

That’s how it was on the radio this AM.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:24:33pm
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BeachDem  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:24:45pm

re: #231 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Every time he does this, I think back to 2008.

Every time he does this, I appreciate even more what Hillary did then.

Every time he does this, I am even more excited to vote for someone who has the class and the temperament to be graceful even in defeat, because shit is not always going to go America’s way.

And not to pimp my latest page (but to pimp my latest page), to Bernie, from Evita:

Forgive my intrusion but fine as those sentiments sound
Little has changed for us peasants down here on the ground
I hate to sound childish, ungrateful, I don’t like to moan
But do you now represent anyone’s cause but your own?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:25:39pm

re: #284 BeachDem

And not to pimp my latest page (but to pimp my latest page), to Bernie, from Evita:

Forgive my intrusion but fine as those sentiments sound
Little has changed for us peasants down here on the ground
I hate to sound childish, ungrateful, I don’t like to moan
But do you now represent anyone’s cause but your own?

It’s why I have to laugh when I see his supporters tout him as a revolutionary.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:25:44pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

You know, I think you can tell a lot by something by who supports or opposes it. Take the gun sit in, seeing that John Lewis was behind it comforted me. Seeing that a who’s who in Eurofascists loves the Euexit troubles me.

I’ve been resigned to Idiocracy becoming a documentary for some time now.

I was not prepared for The Wall to serve as a popular political instruction manual.

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:25:56pm

This one is for Mr Farage

XTC-Making Plans For Nigel #258.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:26:56pm

re: #252 Blind Frog Belly White

I know this, but it didn’t stop me wearing a Douglas plaid shirt today, to show solidarity with my Scottish cousins, and because it’s what was clean and ironed.

I’m a regent for Clan Douglas in NC :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:27:01pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

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Cripes, I remember my Scottish friend, a Post Doc I worked with at Cornell 35 years ago, talking about the National Front idiots back then.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:27:58pm

re: #267 HappyWarrior

You have to have a lot of money first.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:28:42pm

re: #261 Barefoot Grin

I remember seeing a documentary wherein mummified bodies in northwestern China (along the silk roads) had reddish hair and wore plaids (probably from around the latter Han dynasty, or roughly the mid-late Roman empire era).

I saw that same one.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:28:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:29:12pm

re: #288 Aunty Entity Dragon

I’m a regent for Clan Douglas in NC :)

I’ve got Rutherfords on one side, and Watsons on the other, so I get to pick between Douglas and Buchanan.

Not a hard choice. Buchanan has to be one of the ugliest plaids going. It’s actually a relief to know that was all made up.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:29:45pm

re: #289 Blind Frog Belly White

Cripes, I remember my Scottish friend, a Post Doc I worked with at Cornell 35 years ago, talking about the National Front idiots back then.

I like to read about far right and far left movements, call it a weird hobby, the NF ones astound me since there’s a lot Neo-Nazism in there. These are people who would have been alive during the Battle of Britain and definitely had parents that were taking part in the fight against Nazism. I need to read more about the BUF- British Union of Fascists. I’m honestly not familiar with what their brand of fascism was. I know all fascism has a lot of intersection but there’s a lot of subtle differences within fascist movements.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:30:22pm

re: #292 Stanley Sea

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“With your help, we can crater the Dollar, too!”

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:32:47pm

re: #292 Stanley Sea

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US OUT OF EU!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:33:22pm

re: #293 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve got Rutherfords on one side, and Watsons on the other, so I get to pick between Douglas and Buchanan.

Not a hard choice. Buchanan has to be one of the ugliest plaids going. It’s actually a relief to know that was all made up.

Buchanan? Hopefully you’re not related to Pat. I’ve got Joyces in mind, I told an Irish cab driver in Galway that I hope like hell I wasn’t related (this was before I knew how common the surname is in Galway/Mayo) to Lord Haw Haw and he pointed out the cemetery where he’s buried. Lord Haw Haw was a weird guy. An Irish Catholic who boasted about helping the Black and Tans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:34:45pm
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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:35:49pm

re: #262 Kragar

Serpentine!!! Serpentine!!!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:36:38pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Um….
Yeah.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:36:43pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because they paused on the coals to take selfies.

Sorry, not even mustering a nanoviolin here.

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:40:09pm

re: #258 ObserverArt

Jeff Sessions?

Yes, I think you’re correct. Must have permablocked the name in my mind.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:40:32pm

re: #262 Kragar

So assuming they were up against Feds, how does that work against tear gas, flashbangs and fully equipped SWAT teams?

You could ask any of a number of Number 3s in Al Qaeda. Pretty sure they had armed entourages.

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ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:40:57pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heh. I happened to be watching The Dan Patrick show on NBC Sports Network and they were talking about this story. They wanted to do reenactment but they couldn’t use real hot coals on their little wood flooring basketball court.

What to do? What to do?

So, they poured some hot sauce for Buffalo wings on the floor and had the one guy walk through it.

Yeah it was dumb fun. Tony Robbins probably wasn’t impressed though.

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Lidane  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:41:11pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:41:23pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

I completely lost it when my voice dropped. But I didn’t exactly get an recognizable American accent in return. There’s residual Briton in how I speak.

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:41:25pm

re: #267 HappyWarrior

He’ll see who is laughing when he loses a lot of money.

There’s an assumption he has anything to lose.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:41:48pm

re: #305 Lidane

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It sure is but that doesn’t stop Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:42:40pm

re: #301 Testy Toad T

Because they paused on the coals to take selfies.

Sorry, not even mustering a nanoviolin here.

All the facepalms.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:43:29pm

re: #261 Barefoot Grin

I remember seeing a documentary wherein mummified bodies in northwestern China (along the silk roads) had reddish hair and wore plaids (probably from around the latter Han dynasty, or roughly the mid-late Roman empire era).

Tocharians.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:43:30pm

re: #306 The Ghost of a Flea

I completely lost it when my voice dropped. But I didn’t exactly get an recognizable American accent in return. There’s residual Briton in how I speak.

Ah okay, interesting. Now that I think about it, I remember a classmate whose parents were American born but he spent a good part of his early childhood in Britain. Eventualy, I forgot that he had even lived in the UK. I imagine you probably use some British slang like my cousins do too. I also think about Frank McCourt, born in Brooklyn but lived in Limerick, Ireland until he was 19, and then spent the rest of his life in America.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:43:37pm

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

Says the tools standing in front of a banner for a Dutch beer company. I bet their clothes and glasses are made in Asia. Hair products too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:43:57pm

re: #307 MsJ

There’s an assumption he has anything to lose.

That’s true. I just assumed he was probably a trustfund brat.

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:44:05pm

re: #300 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Um….
Yeah.

Nope.

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:44:09pm

re: #306 The Ghost of a Flea

I completely lost it when my voice dropped. But I didn’t exactly get an recognizable American accent in return. There’s residual Briton in how I speak.

I have a very noticeable Scottish accent, but only when I’m drunk.

Which is odd considering I’m a white guy from California.

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Slap  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:44:13pm

I’m at work, so this’ll have to do!

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Lidane  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:44:26pm
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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:45:01pm
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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:45:42pm

re: #313 HappyWarrior

That’s true. I just assumed he was probably a trustfund brat.

If he is then he is even stupider than previously thought. In this case, the rich are going to lose a lot. Pensions are as well but the rich are going to be hit the hardest, imho.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:45:52pm

re: #318 Kragar

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Also the golden age of the American Mafia. But hey minorities knew their place!

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ObserverArt  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:45:59pm

re: #315 Kragar

I have a very noticeable Scottish accent, but only when I’m drunk.

Which is odd considering I’m a white guy from California.

Drinking Scotch? Or does any ol’ grain alcohol do the trick?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:46:30pm

re: #319 MsJ

If he is then he is even stupider than previously thought. In this case, the rich are going to lose a lot. Pensions are as well but the rich are going to be hit the hardest, imho.

That’s just an assumption by me so don’t pay it any matter.

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:47:39pm

re: #321 ObserverArt

Drinking Scotch? Or does any ol’ grain alcohol do the trick?

Usually kicks in after 4-5 beers.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:49:15pm

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Also the golden age of the American Mafia. But hey minorities knew their place!

Women stayed in high heels in the kitchen and the gays got gang raped in prison. Great times!

/////

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:49:25pm

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Also the golden age of the American Mafia. But hey minorities knew their place!

As did women.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 1:50:59pm
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:00:40pm

re: #311 HappyWarrior

Ah okay, interesting. Now that I think about it, I remember a classmate whose parents were American born but he spent a good part of his early childhood in Britain. Eventualy, I forgot that he had even lived in the UK. I imagine you probably use some British slang like my cousins do too. I also think about Frank McCourt, born in Brooklyn but lived in Limerick, Ireland until he was 19, and then spent the rest of his life in America.

In Toys, staring Robin Williams, Michael Gambon (who would play Dumbledore), resented his dad because while the character had been born in America, the family had spent so much time in England that he spoke with a British accent.

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:01:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:02:36pm
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Lidane  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:02:37pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:02:45pm
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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:05:58pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the stupid, it burns. Literally. *smh*

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Lidane  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:08:20pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:09:08pm

re: #335 Belafon

Republicans in the House voted for an amendment to keep the DoD from implementing a climate change plan, by a vote of 216-205.

More of that excellence on national security issues the Republicans claim to provide.

The GOP is an entire party of cocksplats.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:11:31pm
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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:12:17pm
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Teukka  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:12:28pm

re: #335 Belafon

Republicans in the House voted for an amendment to keep the DoD from implementing a climate change plan, by a vote of 216-205.

I wonder what damage it will do to the GOP when something happens where this exact decision completely hobbles the Pentagon….

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:13:38pm

re: #339 Kragar

After you pretend you know what you’re doing you run to the bar?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:15:55pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:16:33pm

re: #340 Teukka

I wonder what damage it will do to the GOP when something happens where this exact decision completely hobbles the Pentagon….

They will never admit it was their fault while Bill Kristol says Hillary is to blame. 45% of the country will believe him.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:17:21pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:17:40pm

re: #339 Kragar

Trump said “running the country is like running a golf course.”

First you lie to the owners about how much profit they’ll make with you as a partner. Then you lie to locals about all the tax-revenue and employment improvements you’ll add, like resort hotels, etc. Then you trap club members by making their deposits nonrefundable.

Then you leave everyone else holding the bag.

Yeah, just like running a country.

Maybe he meant to say “Running a Country Club is like running a golf course”.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:18:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:19:10pm

re: #344 Charles Johnson

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It’s always Obama’s fault, duh.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:19:23pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:20:11pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Firewalking is a familiar woo woo trick and Robbins has been running the scam for 35 years. There is nothing supernatural or transcendent about it at all. The trick is having the coals properly prepared, with the very low density ash material actually transferring very little heat despite being glowing hot. It is also necessary to step very quickly and not leave any particular area of skin in contract with the ash for more than a fraction of a second. This rules out pausing for selfies.

I’ve done this a couple of times just to show that the skeptical, scientific explanation is the correct one. It’s really all in the “coals.” If Robbins and the other scammers could walk across a glowing hot steel plate, I would be most impressed.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:21:08pm

re: #347 HappyWarrior

It’s always Obama’s fault, duh.

Because if Obama, by himself I guess, had intervened in Syria there would have been no war and no refugees or something. Makes perfect sense.

/

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:21:38pm

re: #344 Charles Johnson

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Sadly, a village lost their cheeto dust encrusted neocon chickhawk idiot and he is still wandering in the wingnut wilderness.

Won’t somebody help this poor man?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:21:50pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:22:07pm

re: #346 Charles Johnson

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:22:19pm

re: #344 Charles Johnson

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That would be the nonintervention where Obama was told repeatedly by the Right that he’d better not intervene? Or would it be the one where the GOP Congress refused to give him an AUMF while complaining he was doing nothing? Or would it be the one where the Right insisted Obama do something while insisting he do nothing?

Oh, wait. It’s all the same one.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:22:26pm

re: #348 Ziggy_TARDIS

In other words, the Brexit supporters were sold a pig in a poke.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:24:03pm

re: #349 Shiplord Kirel

Firewalking is a familiar woo woo trick and Robbins has been running the scam for 35 years. There is nothing supernatural or transcendent about it at all. The trick is having the coals properly prepared, with the very low density ash material actually transferring very little heat despite being glowing hot. It is also necessary to step very quickly and not leave any particular area of skin in contract with the ash for more than a fraction of a second. This rules out pausing for selfies.

I’ve done this a couple of times just to show that the skeptical, scientific explanation is the correct one. It’s really all in the “coals.” If Robbins and the other scammers could walk across a glowing hot steel plate, I would be most impressed.

Yeah, but I bet you didn’t do the control experiment where there are a lot more coals, all packed together, and all the ash blown off them!

////////

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:25:15pm

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

In other words, the Brexit supporters were sold a pig in a poke.

Obviously a population ripe for Nigerian Letters.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:25:50pm

re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White

That would be the nonintervention where Obama was told repeatedly by the Right that he’d better not intervene? Or would it be the one where the GOP Congress refused to give him an AUMF while complaining he was doing nothing? Or would it be the one where the Right insisted Obama do something while insisting he do nothing?

Oh, wait. It’s all the same one.

Obama was supposed to overthrow Assad and defeat the rebels Assad was fighting and accomplish both ends without using American boots on the ground or any American tax dollars.

//

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:26:56pm

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

In other words, the Brexit supporters were sold a pig in a poke Davy Crockett missile in their pension plans.

It’s small…it’s not a big deal. What’s the harm?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:27:16pm

re: #358 Sir John Barron

Obama was supposed to overthrow Assad and defeat the rebels Assad was fighting and accomplish both ends without using American boots on the ground or any American tax dollars.

//

I guess he was supposed to use the same bully pulpit that would have gotten us Single Payer, Immigration Reform and all the ice cream we can eat other Unicorn Farts?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:27:49pm

re: #357 Blind Frog Belly White

Or IRS phone calls from cellular numbers.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:29:05pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:31:31pm

re: #356 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but I bet you didn’t do the control experiment where there are a lot more coals, all packed together, and all the ash blown off them!

////////

True that. I didn’t disturb the fire spirits by stopping for a selfie either. Besides the hot steel plate, Robbins could convince me by introducing the rope walk over alligator pit and the skinny dip in shark filled pond to his events.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:32:00pm

re: #358 Sir John Barron

Obama was supposed to overthrow Assad and defeat the rebels Assad was fighting and accomplish both ends without using American boots on the ground or any American tax dollars.

//

Reagan would have done that and he would have done a witty joke too! //

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:32:24pm

re: #363 Shiplord Kirel

True that. I didn’t disturb the fire spirits by stopping for a selfie either. Besides the hot steel plate, Robbins could convince me by introducing the rope walk over alligator pit and the skinny dip in shark filled pond to his events.

Would the sharks have frikkin’ “Laser Beams”?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:32:48pm

re: #357 Blind Frog Belly White

Obviously a population ripe for Nigerian Letters.

“Dear Sir or Ma’am; I am a Nigerian expatriate who fears the worst now that a Brexit vote has taken place. I am well-off financially, but I need to conceal my assets in the event that expatriates such as myself are deported from the UK. Therefore, I’d like to suggest to you the following opportunity……”

Lather, rinse, repeat.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:32:51pm

re: #364 HappyWarrior

Reagan would have done that and he would have done a witty joke too! //

Just like he brought peace to Lebanon!
///

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:32:52pm

re: #348 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Yep they got hosed. Morons.

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:35:07pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

People are SO FUCKING STUPID!!!

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:36:13pm

re: #318 Kragar

Read the description of the book, and as soon as I saw the word ‘statism’ I rolled my eyes and closed the tab.

Anyone who uses that word has nothing useful to say to me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:36:50pm

Now he’s blaming Brexit on Hillary==>

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:40:39pm

re: #371 The Vicious Babushka

Now he’s blaming Brexit on Hillary==>

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I can’t figure out what he’s saying there. She ‘called it totally wrong’, because she said it was a bad idea? At least 48.3% of the UK Electorate, and 62% of the country that asshole’s texting from agree. So do all the Financial markets.

So, what - he’s saying we need someone who’s willing to do, or support doing stupid things that make no sense? THAT is “leadership”?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:40:41pm

re: #370 Romantic Heretic

Read the description of the book, and as soon as I saw the word ‘statism’ I rolled my eyes and closed the tab.

Anyone who uses that word has nothing useful to say to me.

Alon with: sheeple, SJW, molon labe, cuckservative, libtard, dhimmocrat et al.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:40:52pm

I can’t wait to call one of you a witless cocksplat.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:41:30pm

re: #374 SoundGuy 2016

I can’t wait to call one of you a witless cocksplat.

Can I get in the Witless Protection Program?

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darthstar  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:41:51pm
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darthstar  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:43:24pm

Oh…it’s an assault case - not just doping on the field.

He’s fucked.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:43:59pm

re: #371 The Vicious Babushka

Now he’s blaming Brexit on Hillary==>

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Goddamn he’s stupid.

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:44:01pm

re: #349 Shiplord Kirel

Firewalking is a familiar woo woo trick and Robbins has been running the scam for 35 years. There is nothing supernatural or transcendent about it at all. The trick is having the coals properly prepared, with the very low density ash material actually transferring very little heat despite being glowing hot. It is also necessary to step very quickly and not leave any particular area of skin in contract with the ash for more than a fraction of a second. This rules out pausing for selfies.

I’ve done this a couple of times just to show that the skeptical, scientific explanation is the correct one. It’s really all in the “coals.” If Robbins and the other scammers could walk across a glowing hot steel plate, I would be most impressed.

Mythbusters covered firewalking very well, proving exactly what you said; Adam, however, wound up burning his feet because of how he walked on them.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:44:44pm

re: #368 HappyWarrior

Yep they got hosed. Morons.

Common clay of the old West…

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:44:51pm

re: #358 Sir John Barron

Obama was supposed to overthrow Assad and defeat the rebels Assad was fighting and accomplish both ends without using American boots on the ground or any American tax dollars.

//

Bare-chested and bare-handed…

///

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:45:05pm

re: #372 Blind Frog Belly White

I can’t figure out what he’s saying there. She ‘called it totally wrong’, because she said it was a bad idea? At least 48.3% of the UK Electorate, and 62% of the country that asshole’s texting from agree. So do all the Financial markets.

So, what - he’s saying we need someone who’s willing to do, or support doing stupid things that make no sense? THAT is “leadership”?

Little things like nuance are always lost on Donald. He’s a moron who would probably be cleaning up shit for a living if he didn’t have a wealthy Daddy.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:46:14pm

re: #374 SoundGuy 2016

I can’t wait to call one of you a witless cocksplat.

Tony Robbins seminar participant.

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:46:25pm

re: #377 darthstar

Oh…it’s an assault case - not just doping on the field.

He’s fucked.

Johnny Football: Just another college QB stud that couldn’t hack it in the pros.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:46:44pm
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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:47:03pm

re: #375 Blind Frog Belly White

Can I get in the Witless Protection Cocksplat Program?

Get in line. There are 17m Brits and a US GOP Presidential Candidate who already have their Platinum Cocksplat cards.

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:47:14pm

re: #359 Aunty Entity Dragon

It’s small…it’s not a big deal. What’s the harm?

I heard that in John McClain’s voice. :-)

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:47:50pm
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darthstar  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:48:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:49:04pm

re: #388 Nyet

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He thought the leopards weren’t serious. Cut him some slack. //

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:52:12pm

WATCH: Protester hurls swastika golf balls at Trump during Scotland news conference

I didn’t know a Double Iron Cross Eagle into a Hazard was possible.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:55:21pm

re: #390 HappyWarrior

He thought the leopards weren’t serious. Cut him some slack. //

The leopard is definitely not screwing around on this one…

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:57:01pm

re: #349 Shiplord Kirel

Firewalking is a familiar woo woo trick and Robbins has been running the scam for 35 years. There is nothing supernatural or transcendent about it at all. The trick is having the coals properly prepared, with the very low density ash material actually transferring very little heat despite being glowing hot. It is also necessary to step very quickly and not leave any particular area of skin in contract with the ash for more than a fraction of a second. This rules out pausing for selfies.

I habitually conduct my charcoal grilling barefoot, because I am a moron. Once, after firing things up in the chimney, I lost a little dime-sized coal out the bottom of the chimney and proceeded to put my heel on it.

Turns out it takes a good three or four seconds before you start to feel it. I do not recommend duplicating this experiment [xkcd Image: the_difference.png]— a full-callous-thick blister takes a good long while to go away.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 24, 2016 • 2:59:25pm

With the Pound Stirling expected to crater even more this week, I guess it is as good a time as any to order game stuff from Perry Miniatures etc.

perry-miniatures.com

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:02:10pm

re: #393 Testy Toad T

I habitually conduct my charcoal grilling barefoot, because I am a moron. Once, after firing things up in the chimney, I lost a little dime-sized coal out the bottom of the chimney and proceeded to put my heel on it.

Turns out it takes a good three or four seconds before you start to feel it. I do not recommend duplicating this experiment [xkcd Image: the_difference.png]— a full-callous-thick blister takes a good long while to go away.

I recently had a potholder shift a bit while holding a baking sheet just removed from a 450° oven. Is it wrong that after I reflexively dropped it, while holding my thumb under cold running water, I was impressed that I had dropped the hot thing before my brain registered the heat? Kind of interesting, but I won’t be repeating it to see if it happens every time, thankyouverymuch.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:03:30pm

The far right accuses Obama of non-intervention in Syria while the far left accuses him of intervention in Syria. Hmm.

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Testy Toad T  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:04:04pm

re: #395 calochortus

I recently had a potholder shift a bit while holding a baking sheet just removed from a 450° oven. Is it wrong that after I reflexively dropped it, while holding my thumb under cold running water, I was impressed that I had dropped the hot thing before my brain registered the heat? Kind of interesting, but I won’t be repeating it to see if it happens every time, thankyouverymuch.

You actually did drop it before your brain registered the heat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_reflex
When a person touches a hot object and withdraws their hand from it without thinking about it, the heat stimulates temperature and danger receptors in the skin, triggering a sensory impulse that travels to the central nervous system. The sensory neuron then synapses with interneurons that connect to motor neurons.[2] Some of these send motor impulses to the flexors to allow withdrawal; some motor neurons send inhibitory impulses to the extensors so flexion is not inhibited - this is referred to as reciprocal innervation.[3]

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:05:13pm

re: #397 Testy Toad T

Precisely.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:05:26pm

re: #396 Nyet

The far right accuses Obama of non-intervention in Syria while the far left accuses him of intervention in Syria. Hmm.

Yep and here are stuck in the middle with them.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:05:42pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:05:44pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:08:31pm

Rude Pundit:

A Few Upsides of the Brexit Disaster

10. Good chance that, 28 days later, the country will be decimated by crazed zombies with a rage virus. So we get to see how that goes.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:08:49pm

re: #397 Testy Toad T

You actually did drop it before your brain registered the heat.

Pretty amazing how our bodies work, especially since it’s in a way that we’re totally unconscious of most of the time.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:09:17pm

re: #399 HappyWarrior

In the real world, the US has been trying to intervene, but is stymied by the fact that several allies are on different sides, and the 2 local allies have a tendency to undercut us.

Not that Russia is doing any better.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:09:42pm

re: #401 goddamnedfrank

How many people gonna donate to @realDonaldTrump’s campaign now that he’s championed the market destroying #Brexit Leave vote?

Sadly, probably a lot: the sort who could care a great deal less about “destroying markets” and will only fixate on Trump’s cheering on of jingoistic anti-immigrant sentiments, and his gloating about being “right”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:10:21pm

re: #405 Jay C

Sadly, probably a lot: the sort who could care a great deal less about “destroying markets” and will only fixate on Trump’s cheering on of jingoistic anti-immigrant sentiments, and his gloating about being “right”.

THEIR IS MOAR STUPIDS==>

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:12:57pm

re: #405 Jay C

Sadly, probably a lot: the sort who could care a great deal less about “destroying markets” and will only fixate on Trump’s cheering on of jingoistic anti-immigrant sentiments, and his gloating about being “right”.

So, the same ones who were going to vote for him before.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:14:35pm

re: #406 The Vicious Babushka

So I wonder how Jews in the UK are feeling about this, given the history there. VB, don’t you have family there—didn’t one of your daughters marry a British guy?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:18:01pm

re: #408 CuriousLurker

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:19:16pm

re: #397 Testy Toad T

You actually did drop it before your brain registered the heat.

The thing is, if you have experienced this before, you have about a second of knowing that it’s gonna hurt like a motherfucker any moment now….

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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:19:21pm

re: #409 The Vicious Babushka

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Ah, well that’s good news then.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:22:17pm

You maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!

#brexit

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:23:03pm

re: #2 jaunte

re: #396 Nyet

The far right accuses Obama of non-intervention in Syria while the far left accuses him of intervention in Syria. Hmm.

While carrying a 52% Approval rating. Only a homogay islamocommunist Kenyan could pull that off.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:23:26pm

re: #412 Nyet

You maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!

#brexit

You maniacs!

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:25:02pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:25:09pm

So basically he is saying he wants the Dollar to plummet
WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:26:53pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:27:12pm

Best comment on the Robbins fire-scam fiasco:

“Quick! Somebody call Benny Hinn to come heal them!”

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:27:41pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

They do have a point but the good news here is we have a much more diverse electorate than the UK does which won’t help a bigot like Trump out. Hispanics especially are eager to vote against him.

Ditto Black Americans. The last poll I saw showed only 4% having a favorable opinion about Trump.

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:27:54pm

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

So basically he is saying he wants the Dollar to plummet
WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE

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I hate to say it, but a little reading of various wingnuts and assorted conservatives indicates that they don’t care if they die horribly as long as they take the privileged classes with them. What they don’t seem to realize is that those privileged folks won’t be going down with them.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:28:20pm

re: #418 Shiplord Kirel

Best comment on the Robbins fire-scam fiasco:

“Quick! Somebody call Benny Hinn to come heal them!”

Well, bowl me over Magic Man!

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thedopefishlives  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:29:30pm

Evening Lizardim.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:29:46pm

re: #420 calochortus

I hate to say it, but a little reading of various wingnuts and assorted conservatives indicates that they don’t care if they die horribly as long as they take the privileged classes with them. What they don’t seem to realize is that those privileged folks won’t be going down with them.

Even worse, you have all the preppers who can’t wait for the Economic Apocalypse to happen SO THEY CAN BECOME THE WARLORDS WITH THEIR GUNZ!!!!!!!

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:31:22pm

re: #423 The Vicious Babushka

Even worse, you have all the preppers who can’t wait for the Economic Apocalypse to happen SO THEY CAN BECOME THE WARLORDS WITH THEIR GUNZ!!!!!!!

Strikes me as a very strange fantasy, one can only feel sorry for people with that sort of anger.
Well, feel sorry and have the authorities keep an eye on them.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:32:07pm

re: #395 calochortus

I recently had a potholder shift a bit while holding a baking sheet just removed from a 450° oven. Is it wrong that after I reflexively dropped it, while holding my thumb under cold running water, I was impressed that I had dropped the hot thing before my brain registered the heat? Kind of interesting, but I won’t be repeating it to see if it happens every time, thankyouverymuch.

Pro-tip: instead of holding the burned bit under cold running water… put butter on it. It absorbs more of the heat and protects your skin better, reducing the severity of the burn.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:33:14pm

re: #420 calochortus

Who do the wingnuts define as the “privileged classes”? I have a feeling that minorities and LGBTs are on that list.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:33:36pm

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

So basically he is saying he wants the Dollar to plummet
WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE

What has happened in the UK in the last 12 hours is exactly what will happen in November..vote TRUMP 2016

The dollar will crash, markets will plummet, White Supremacists will celebrate, and a shitload of stupid people will go on Google to look up what they just voted for.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:34:11pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:34:26pm

re: #427 Blind Frog Belly White

The dollar will crash, markets will plummet, White Supremacists will celebrate, and a shitload of stupid people will go on Google to look up what they just voted for.

There are some people who just can’t wait to have their theories about “fiat currency” proven right!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:34:37pm

re: #425 sagehen

Pro-tip: instead of holding the burned bit under cold running water… put butter on it. It absorbs more of the heat and protects your skin better, reducing the severity of the burn.

NO.

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:34:42pm

re: #425 sagehen

Pro-tip: instead of holding the burned bit under cold running water… put butter on it. It absorbs more of the heat and protects your skin better, reducing the severity of the burn.

I don’t think that’s true. Cold water for several minutes is the current recommended treatment.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:35:24pm

re: #426 Patricia Kayden

Who do the wingnuts define as the “privileged classes”? I have a feeling that minorities and LGBTs are on that list.

HURR HURR TEH LIBTARDS & TEH COLLEGH INTELLEKSHULS!!!!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:35:25pm

re: #425 sagehen

Pro-tip: instead of holding the burned bit under cold running water… put butter on it. It absorbs more of the heat and protects your skin better, reducing the severity of the burn.

Butter seals in the heat. You are pretty much basting your burn if you use butter.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:35:37pm

Well, goodnight, Lizards from here in Central Europe. Next week promises to be, ahem…interesting…..as the Brexit fallout continues apace.

I leave you with some timely advice from Samuel L. Jackson:

Jurassic Park - Hold Onto Your Butts

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:35:58pm

re: #426 Patricia Kayden

Who do the wingnuts define as the “privileged classes”? I have a feeling that minorities and LGBTs are on that list.

In this case, I think they mean rich people. Soros, etc. I’m not sure where minorities come into it.

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thedopefishlives  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:36:19pm

re: #434 Dr Lizardo

Well, goodnight, Lizards from here in Central Europe. Next week promises to be, ahem…interesting…..as the Brexit fallout continues apace.

I leave you with some timely advice from Samuel L. Jackson:

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I have to admit, I didn’t even realize this vote was going on. Then I woke up this morning to a whole slew of very confusing Facebook posts. Imagine my bewilderment.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:37:00pm

re: #430 The Vicious Babushka
re: #431 calochortus

Oops. My bad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:37:25pm

re: #435 calochortus

In this case, I think they mean rich people. Soros, etc. I’m not sure where minorities come into it.

HURR HURR ONLY TEH RICH LIBRULS!!!! RICH BILLIIONAIRES LIKE TRUMP WILL BE WINNING ALL TEH THINGS!!!!1!!!

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:37:52pm

re: #417 Nyet

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:38:54pm

re: #435 calochortus

In this case, I think they mean rich people. Soros, etc. I’m not sure where minorities come into it.

They’re privileged, too. “There’s no one as discriminated against as a Straight, White, Christian Man!” Hadn’t you heard?
//

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:39:05pm

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

So basically he is saying he wants the Dollar to plummet
WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE

[“@DarrenWaggener: @realDonaldTrump What has happened in the UK in the last 12 hours is exactly what will happen in November..vote TRUMP 2016]

He’s saying this is what will happen if we do vote for him. That’s how it reads to me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:39:32pm

re: #439 MsJ

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As I said last night, “Hold my warm beer. Watch this!”

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:39:59pm

re: #429 Barefoot Grin

There are some people who just can’t wait to have their theories about “fiat currency” proven right!

I tried to get my favorite wingnut relative to explain to me why gold has intrinsic value greater than, say, oats or coal that would make it a superior form of currency and he just couldn’t do it.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:40:35pm

re: #442 Blind Frog Belly White

As I said last night, “Hold my warm beer. Watch this!”

nurse:
/n./ The first person you see after “Hold my beer and watch this.”

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:41:14pm

re: #419 Patricia Kayden

Ditto Black Americans. The last poll I saw showed only 4% having a favorable opinion about Trump.

Which makes me wonder WTF is wrong with those 4% (or whatever percent for whatever demographic). Who could possibly vote for someone who has repeatedly shown how much he hates a given group/

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:41:45pm

re: #444 Teukka

nurse:
/n./ The first person you see after “Hold my beer and watch this.”

That or St.Peter.

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:41:53pm

re: #440 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re privileged, too. “There’s no one as discriminated against as a Straight, White, Christian Man!” Hadn’t you heard?
//

Nope, I’m a straight, white, atheist woman, so I don’t know anything about True Citizens.

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thedopefishlives  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:42:20pm

re: #445 MsJ

Which makes me wonder WTF is wrong with those 4% (or whatever percent for whatever demographic). Who could possibly vote for someone who has repeatedly shown how much he hates a given group/

Family loyalty, self-hating political views, peer pressure, to name a few reasons.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:42:43pm
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thedopefishlives  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:43:06pm

re: #446 Nyet

That or St.Peter.

You know it’s bad when you get to the Pearly Gates and the first words are, “My child, just what the fuck were you thinking?!”

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:43:50pm

re: #443 calochortus

I tried to get my favorite wingnut relative to explain to me why gold has intrinsic value greater than, say, oats or coal that would make it a superior form of currency and he just couldn’t do it.

Yeah, I have had a few students—devotees of F. A. Hayek—who have it all worked out. I’m no economist, but I do know that there are any number of instances where the US economy went into depression even tied to gold (JP Morgan had to bail us out once or twice, iirc).

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:44:49pm

re: #441 MsJ

He’s saying this is what will happen if we do vote for him. That’s how it reads to me.

The scary thing to me is there is a segment on the extremes that seem to *want* the stock market and our economy to crash. These are the same people who think we should have let the banks fail instead of bailing them out, damn the consequences. To them, currencies and stock markets crashing are a good thing. Needless to say, these people terrify me now because it’s like negotiating with a suicide bomber… how do you convince someone to save something they have no interest in protecting?

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:44:58pm

re: #446 Nyet

That or St.Peter.

Aye. Truth.

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:45:05pm

re: #425 sagehen

Pro-tip: instead of holding the burned bit under cold running water… put butter on it. It absorbs more of the heat and protects your skin better, reducing the severity of the burn.

Oh no. Butter is bad. Not just not good, but bad.

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:45:57pm

re: #451 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, I have had a few students—devotees of F. A. Hayek—who have it all worked out. I’m no economist, but I do know that there are any number of instances where the US economy went into depression even tied to gold (JP Morgan had to bail us out once or twice, iirc).

My brother was reading a book recently which suggested that the gold standard actually hobbled economies and fiat currency is a great innovation in economic history.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:47:26pm

There was one civilization (Easter Island maybe?) that used giant stones as their currency. Let’s just go back to that.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:47:36pm

Y’all know the page I did yesterday about the CAIR/UC Berkeley Islamophobia report? Brietbart is now hysterically claiming—based on assertions being made by the usual suspects—that it’s actually a “hit list” of people/groups CAIR is targeting for assassination. You can’t make this stuff up. ಠ_ಠ See: webcitation.org

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calochortus  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:48:53pm

re: #456 InfidelOfFreedom

There was one civilization (Easter Island maybe?) that used giant stones as their currency. Let’s just go back to that.

Yap

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:49:35pm

re: #455 calochortus

My brother was reading a book recently which suggested that the gold standard actually hobbled economies and fiat currency is a great innovation in economic history.

That’s been my argument. Hard currency standards tie the hands of governments to take creative measures in times of duress.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:50:13pm

From King of the Hill with some modifications:

Peggy: “Hank and I used to go to Mexico the United Kingdom every time they devalued the Peso Pound.”

Hank: “That’s got old pretty quick.”

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:52:20pm

re: #441 MsJ

He’s saying this is what will happen if we do vote for him. That’s how it reads to me.

There’s no question in my mind that a Trump victory in November would cause a US market crash. I have no idea what would happen elsewhere in the world, but electing a guy who brags that he’ll default on US debt won’t be looked on favorably by anyone sane.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:52:33pm

re: #457 CuriousLurker

Y’all know the page I did yesterday about the CAIR/UC Berkeley Islamophobia report? Brietbart is now hysterically claiming—based on claims being made by the usual suspects—that it’s actually a “hit list” of people/groups CAIR is targeting for assassination. You can’t make this stuff up. ಠ_ಠ See: webcitation.org

Every once in awhile I really wish we could round invite these folks up into FEMA camps.Galt’s Gulch.

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thedopefishlives  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:53:33pm

re: #462 Barefoot Grin

Every once in awhile I really wish we could round these folks up into FEMA camps.

Oh, now you’ve done it. Your saying it is now proof that They (tm) are planning on actually doing it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:54:01pm

re: #434 Dr Lizardo

With everything going dark there that’s a very apt video.

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:54:12pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:54:23pm

re: #452 InfidelOfFreedom

The scary thing to me is there is a segment on the extremes that seem to *want* the stock market and our economy to crash. These are the same people who think we should have let the banks fail instead of bailing them out, damn the consequences. To them, currencies and stock markets crashing are a good thing. Needless to say, these people terrify me now because it’s like negotiating with a suicide bomber… how do you convince someone to save something they have no interest in protecting?

A lot of folks don’t understand how interconnected finance is. They imagine that if “the banks” fail, it just means rich people lose their money…and that’s good because “the banks” and “the rich” are malevolent. What they miss is that everybody suffers…but the people with a little saved actually suffer way more than the wealthy, since their cash tends to be in one pot. The wealthy are typically diversified—playing every game at the casino—so crapping out might hurt, but not as much.

And then there’s the whole “the future belongs to me” fantasy of whatever stripe—if everything fails, then there’s a blank slate. I see lots of that around.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:54:36pm

re: #463 thedopefishlives

Oh, now you’ve done it. Your saying it is now proof that They (tm) are planning on actually doing it.

Yeah, I changed it.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:55:02pm

re: #458 calochortus

Yap

Ah yes, thanks for the link! I remember hearing about this on NPR’s Planet Money where they did a whole show on “What is Money?” It was fascinating, especially the part about the three econ students who brought Brazil out of their inflation crisis by just creating a new currency to gauge the traditional currency against. (I’ve listened to it 3 times but I still don’t think I fully understand how it actually worked.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:56:02pm

re: #465 gocart mozart

Probably want to keep the Old Navy and American Eagle though.

//

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:58:09pm

re: #439 MsJ

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 3:59:44pm

re: #465 gocart mozart

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She never ceases to amaze me with how stupid she is.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:00:34pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:00:54pm

re: #466 The Ghost of a Flea

A lot of folks don’t understand how interconnected finance is. They imagine that if “the banks” fail, it just means rich people lose their money…and that’s good because “the banks” and “the rich” are malevolent. What they miss is that everybody suffers…but the people with a little saved actually suffer way more than the wealthy, since their cash tends to be in one pot. The wealthy are typically diversified—playing every game at the casino—so crapping out might hurt, but not as much.

And then there’s the whole “the future belongs to me” fantasy of whatever stripe—if everything fails, then there’s a blank slate. I see lots of that around.

Yes, at the time of the 2008 crash I worked for a smallish law firm whose biggest client, unfortunately, was AIG. I’ll just say it was a pretty tense few days. And none of us, even the attorneys, were even close to being fat cats.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:02:07pm

re: #466 The Ghost of a Flea

A lot of folks don’t understand how interconnected finance is. They imagine that if “the banks” fail, it just means rich people lose their money…and that’s good because “the banks” and “the rich” are malevolent. What they miss is that everybody suffers…but the people with a little saved actually suffer way more than the wealthy, since their cash tends to be in one pot. The wealthy are typically diversified—playing every game at the casino—so crapping out might hurt, but not as much.

And then there’s the whole “the future belongs to me” fantasy of whatever stripe—if everything fails, then there’s a blank slate. I see lots of that around.

That’s the danger of populism right there. The more I see the more I distrust populism. I am and remain staunchly liberal but I have grown wary of populist movements that I see as relying on resentment to succeed. It’s not that I don’t have a problem with things like wealth disparity and lax regulations, it’s that I have an equal problem with us versus them politics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:02:31pm

re: #463 thedopefishlives

Oh, now you’ve done it. Your saying it is now proof that They (tm) are planning on actually doing it.

Nobody really believes us when we say it.
That’s what we are counting on….

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:02:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:03:27pm

re: #473 InfidelOfFreedom

Yes, at the time of the 2008 crash I worked for a smallish law firm whose biggest client, unfortunately, was AIG. I’ll just say it was a pretty tense few days. And none of us, even the attorneys, were even close to being fat cats.

As much as I think Wall Street needs to be regulated and have oversight, I really don’t like that element of the left that thinks every person that works there is a greedy bastard looking to screw the little guy. To me, it’s as unhelpful as the RWNJs that attack every government employee as “lazy” and “ineffectual.”

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:03:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:04:42pm

re: #471 HappyWarrior

She never ceases to amaze me with how stupid she is.

My guess is she saw that Fox chyron this morning “UK VOTES TO LEAVE UN” and just ran with it.

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:04:46pm

re: #479 gocart mozart

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:05:15pm

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

My guess is she saw that Fox chyron this morning “UK VOTES TO LEAVE UN” and just ran with it.

I think you’re 100% correct about that.

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:05:31pm

re: #425 sagehen

Pro-tip: instead of holding the burned bit under cold running water… put butter on it. It absorbs more of the heat and protects your skin better, reducing the severity of the burn.

Absolutely not!

NEVER, EVER put butter, lotions, salves, or creams on burns, unless one likes to have it painfully scraped or scrubbed off in the ER if the burn is bad enough; also, they can actually trap heat in the affected area and make it very uncomfortable (at the very least).

However, for me, the only caveat to this is using aloe vera lotion (which is usually water-based) on first-degree burns ONLY (such as mild sunburns), because it will wash off and has generally been proven effective.

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:06:10pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:07:00pm

re: #478 HappyWarrior

As much as I think Wall Street needs to be regulated and have oversight, I really don’t like that element of the left that thinks every person that works there is a greedy bastard looking to screw the little guy. To me, it’s as unhelpful as the RWNJs that attack every government employee as “lazy” and “ineffectual.”

It’s just another form of puritanism that loves to find and shame heretics. It’s amazing how many people on the Far Left regularly cite a publication called “Jacobin” and fail to see why some of us might be squeamish about their movement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:08:46pm

re: #483 TedStriker

Absolutely not!

NEVER, EVER put butter, lotions, salves, or creams on burns, unless one likes to have it painfully scraped or scrubbed off in the ER if the burn is bad enough; also, they can actually trap heat in the affected area and make it very uncomfortable (at the very least).

However, for me, the only caveat to this is using aloe vera lotion (which is usually water-based) on first-degree burns (such as mild sunburns), because it will wash off and has generally been proven effective.

And by trapping the heat, it forces the cooking process (sorry for that visual image, but that is what a burn is) to go into deeper tissues since the heat can’t escape.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:10:55pm

re: #462 Barefoot Grin

Every once in awhile I really wish we could round these folks up into FEMA camps.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:10:57pm

re: #484 wrenchwench

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Not one word about the scapegoating of immigrants. Figures that Stein doesn’t give a fuck about them.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:11:30pm

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

My guess is she saw that Fox chyron this morning “UK VOTES TO LEAVE UN” and just ran with it.

I bet she didn’t know about the EUexit until this morning.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:11:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:12:35pm

re: #484 wrenchwench

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Jill Stein obviously hasn’t got the first freaking clue about any of this.
The UK was already self-determining, otherwise there would not have been the damned vote in the first place.
And the EU didn’t force any austerity on the UK, the UK parliament gleefully did that to its own populace.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:13:22pm

Here’s another thing that Stein should notice. The biggest supporters of remain were members of the British Green Party. The Paleocon-Far Left convergence is happening on this I see here in the US at least.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:13:56pm

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jill Stein obviously hasn’t got the first freaking clue about any of this.
The UK was already self-determining, otherwise there would not have been the damned vote in the first place.
And the EU didn’t force any austerity on the UK, the UK parliament gleefully did that to its own populace.

Yep.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:14:11pm

re: #435 calochortus

In this case, I think they mean rich people. Soros, etc. I’m not sure where minorities come into it.

Conservatives going after oligarchs with torches and pitchforks isn’t a real threat. All the oligarchs have to do is offer up some scapegoats as an alternative and slither away. That how minorities come into it.

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:15:09pm

re: #488 HappyWarrior

Not one word about the scapegoating of immigrants. Figures that Stein doesn’t give a fuck about them.

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jill Stein obviously hasn’t got the first freaking clue about any of this.
The UK was already self-determining, otherwise there would not have been the damned vote in the first place.
And the EU didn’t force any austerity on the UK, the UK parliament gleefully did that to its own populace.

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jill Stein obviously hasn’t got the first freaking clue about any of this.
The UK was already self-determining, otherwise there would not have been the damned vote in the first place.
And the EU didn’t force any austerity on the UK, the UK parliament gleefully did that to its own populace.

I hope she’s enjoying that ride on the space shuttle.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:15:32pm

I don’t think every single man and woman who voted to leave the EU is a bigot but I don’t buy Stein and also Sanders claiming it was just people frustrated with globalization. That doesn’t explain why Liverpool and the Scottish cities voted to remain part of the EU. As I said, I really don’t think far left ypes like them even consider how immigrants get scapegoated by populist movements.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:16:42pm

re: #484 wrenchwench

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Any time I read “bankers” I instantly translate it into “Jews.” I might be overreacting, but I doubt it (based on the levels of antisemitism, racism, etc. I’ve seen coming from the right, not to mention some on the left).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:16:42pm

re: #494 EPR-radar

Conservatives going after oligarchs with torches and pitchforks isn’t a real threat. All the oligarchs have to do is offer up some scapegoats as an alternative and slither away. That how minorities come into it.

That’s how the Kochs are able to succeed. The Kochs don’t personally give a shit who fucks who but they get their support from people who do because it’s how they can get their policies that fuck everyone over.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:18:27pm

re: #497 CuriousLurker

Any time I read “bankers” I translate it into “Jews.” I might be overreacting, but I doubt it (based on the levels of antisemitism, racism, etc I’ve seen coming from the right).

Same here. I just see the same old canards, just with a fresher paint-job and refurbed.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:18:51pm

re: #497 CuriousLurker

Any time I read “bankers” I translate it into “Jews.” I might be overreacting, but I doubt it (based on the levels of antisemitism, racism, etc I’ve seen coming from the right).

You’re not. Saw that one of my friends whose also discovered that he’s an Islamaphobe posting conspriacy crap about how Obama and Markel following Rothchild’s bidding.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:19:15pm

re: #466 The Ghost of a Flea

A lot of folks don’t understand how interconnected finance is. They imagine that if “the banks” fail, it just means rich people lose their money…and that’s good because “the banks” and “the rich” are malevolent. What they miss is that everybody suffers…but the people with a little saved actually suffer way more than the wealthy, since their cash tends to be in one pot. The wealthy are typically diversified—playing every game at the casino—so crapping out might hurt, but not as much.

And then there’s the whole “the future belongs to me” fantasy of whatever stripe—if everything fails, then there’s a blank slate. I see lots of that around.

There’s no real point in going after individual bankers with torches and pitchforks, no matter how much some of them deserve this for causing the crash in 2008.

The important thing to do, IMO, is change the overall system to 1) be less vulnerable to the kinds of speculation and abuse that led up to the 2008 crash, and 2) be much less efficient at funneling income preferentially to the rich.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:20:17pm

I wrote my academic paper on pogroms mostly because in 2011 when I wrote it, I felt we were seeing the same patterns of Anti-Islam that we saw in Antisemitism in Pre-Hitler Europe in particular Russia. 5 years later, that view remains the same.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:20:22pm

re: #497 CuriousLurker

Any time I read “bankers” I translate it into “Jews.” I might be overreacting, but I doubt it (based on the levels of antisemitism, racism, etc I’ve seen coming from the right).

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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:22:52pm

re: #503 The Vicious Babushka

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:23:06pm

re: #496 HappyWarrior

I don’t think every single man and woman who voted to leave the EU is a bigot but I don’t buy Stein and also Sanders claiming it was just people frustrated with globalization. That doesn’t explain why Liverpool and the Scottish cities voted to remain part of the EU. As I said, I really don’t think far left ypes like them even consider how immigrants get scapegoated by populist movements.

It’s not just what you think, it’s how.

The “convergence” of extreme politics tends to happen when the individual or group is too vain or self-involved to see politics outside of their own frame. Before ideology even comes into it, they’re diagnosing the wrong problem, failing to see the gestalt.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:23:20pm

re: #487 CuriousLurker

It’s sick and it’s sad. (I don’t know how to do the private comment thing yet.)

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:25:03pm

There is video footage at the linked page “Sorry I was late with the golf balls you ordered, Mr Trump.” English comedian win.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:25:53pm

re: #507 Barefoot Grin

It’s sick and it’s sad. (I don’t know how to do the private comment thing yet.)

There’s a green circle with a big white question mark in it at the bottom of the commenting window. If you hover over it, it tells you how to do that and a few other things.

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Nyet  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:26:06pm

Stein is a typical nihileftist.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:28:11pm

re: #510 Nyet

Stein is a typical nihileftist.

She’s Exhibit A on why I’ll never support the Greens over the Dems.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:28:12pm

re: #484 wrenchwench

Jill Stein’s comment might be true in some alternate universe where politics deals only and exclusively with economic issues.

Here in the real world, the class struggle is obviously less relevant for getting votes than scapegoating based on bigotry.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:28:39pm

re: #507 Barefoot Grin

It’s sick and it’s sad. (I don’t know how to do the private comment thing yet.)

Click on the question mark in the green ball under the comment box at the bottom. I think it goes (square bracket)private(square bracket) - your comment text, then (square bracket)/private(square bracket).

Though, of course, you actually have to use square brackets….

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:29:32pm

Another loser Trump golf course.

Donald Trump’s Palos Verdes Golf Course Has Holes in It (EXCLUSIVE)

He announced that the project cost a staggering $264 million — making it, as he said many times, the most expensive golf course anywhere in the world.

“I do not think there is anything close,” he said.

….

But the reality of the course’s finances was a far cry from the bluster. Just two years after it opened, Trump’s representatives told the L.A. County Assessor that it was actually worth just $10 million.

variety.com

Everything this guy touches turns to shit, but with enough lawyers he can always sue his way out of it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:30:47pm

re: #514 Skip Intro

Another loser Trump golf course.

Donald Trump’s Palos Verdes Golf Course Has Holes in It (EXCLUSIVE)

variety.com

Everything this guy touches turns to shit, but with enough lawyers he can always sue his way out of it.

If any of us were as big failures as Donald, we wouldn’t be able to run for President and we sure wouldn’t be living the life of luxury he has.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:31:09pm

re: #505 CuriousLurker

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:32:11pm

re: #507 Barefoot Grin

It’s sick and it’s sad. (I don’t know how to do the private comment thing yet.)

click on the little padlock icon that’s right above the comment box.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:34:35pm

re: #514 Skip Intro

Some of the local color in the linked article is entertaining. Particularly the bit about the former owners of that golf course going into bankruptcy because the 18th hole collapsed into the ocean.

If that had happened under Trump’s watch, it would have been a perfect metaphor for his campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:34:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:36:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:36:10pm

re: #519 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good, I hope they succeed. They were told to stay in the UK because it was said to be the more safe and stable option and the vote yesterday changed that.

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:37:33pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:37:51pm

re: #497 CuriousLurker

Any time I read “bankers” I translate it into “Jews.” I might be overreacting, but I doubt it (based on the levels of antisemitism, racism, etc I’ve seen coming from the right).

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:38:27pm

re: #505 CuriousLurker

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:38:38pm

re: #509 CuriousLurker

There’s a green circle with a big white question mark in it at the bottom of the commenting window. If you hover over it, it tells you how to do that and a few other things.

I knew that Charles had provided helpful instructions, but I’m lazy and fear change.

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:39:05pm

When it comes to Trump, a Republican Treasury secretary says: Choose country over party

Call for DF. DF please pick up the white courtesy telephone.

Republicans stand at a crossroads. With Donald Trump as the presumptive presidential nominee, we are witnessing a populist hijacking of one of the United States’ great political parties. The GOP, in putting Trump at the top of the ticket, is endorsing a brand of populism rooted in ignorance, prejudice, fear and isolationism. This troubles me deeply as a Republican, but it troubles me even more as an American. Enough is enough. It’s time to put country before party and say it together: Never Trump.

……

Let’s start by talking about his business acumen. When Trump assures us he’ll do for the United States what he’s done for his businesses, that’s not a promise — it’s a threat. The tactics he has used in running his business wouldn’t work in running a truly successful company, let alone the most powerful nation on Earth.

washingtonpost.com

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:39:12pm

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jill Stein obviously hasn’t got the first freaking clue about any of this.
The UK was already self-determining, otherwise there would not have been the damned vote in the first place.
And the EU didn’t force any austerity on the UK, the UK parliament gleefully did that to its own populace.

What Jill Stein says is basically correct if we are talking about Greece staying in the EU or leaving it. However, confusing the UK with Greece is ridiculous.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:39:30pm

re: #525 Barefoot Grin

I knew that Charles had provided helpful instructions, but I’m lazy and fear change.

I didn’t notice the helpful question mark for ages.

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:40:26pm

re: #528 The Ghost of a Flea

I didn’t notice the helpful question mark for ages.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:41:09pm

re: #481 Skip Intro

Belle D @belledame222
@_TrumpLogic @TheRickWilson “Beautiful city, Brexit. It’s the capital of Brussels, which is a hellhole.”

Not sure where this Brussels sprouts, but Brexit is where you go to observe the walloons in their native habitat.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:41:53pm

re: #526 Skip Intro

When it comes to Trump, a Republican Treasury secretary says: Choose country over party

Call for DF. DF please pick up the white courtesy telephone.

washingtonpost.com

If not Paulson, he should listen to Brent Scowcroft.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:42:29pm

re: #527 EPR-radar

What Jill Stein says is basically correct if we are talking about Greece staying in the EU or leaving it. However, confusing the UK with Greece is ridiculous.

It’s what happens when you view every situation through the same economic prism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:42:54pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:43:49pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:43:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:44:08pm

re: #533 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Honestly, I’m shocked that he’s campaigning for other people for a change. I think most people are Berned out though. His statement today on the Euexit really showed a lot of tone deafness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:44:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:45:06pm

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So they want the benefits of the EU without having to be EU members? Yeah no guys. You should have read what you were getting by voting to leave.

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Lidane  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:45:31pm
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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:45:38pm

re: #466 The Ghost of a Flea

A lot of folks don’t understand how interconnected finance is. They imagine that if “the banks” fail, it just means rich people lose their money…and that’s good because “the banks” and “the rich” are malevolent. What they miss is that everybody suffers…but the people with a little saved actually suffer way more than the wealthy, since their cash tends to be in one pot. The wealthy are typically diversified—playing every game at the casino—so crapping out might hurt, but not as much.

And then there’s the whole “the future belongs to me” fantasy of whatever stripe—if everything fails, then there’s a blank slate. I see lots of that around.

Please explain retirement funds and pensions to berniacs. They don’t get it. At all.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:46:11pm

re: #487 CuriousLurker

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Just cutting jews out of all the old anti-semitic libels and pasting in muslims.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:46:26pm

Brexiters today:

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:47:41pm

re: #525 Barefoot Grin

I knew that Charles had provided helpful instructions, but I’m lazy and fear change.

re: #534 Barefoot Grin

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It’s not a lizard, it’s a HUMAN! OMG!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:48:12pm

re: #540 MsJ

Please explain retirement funds and pensions to berniacs. They don’t get it. At all.

To be fair, a hell of a lot of people in the US have no fucking clue when it comes to savings, personal finance, retirement, etc. This condition is not exclusive to berniacs.

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Lidane  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:48:17pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:48:20pm

re: #443 calochortus

I tried to get my favorite wingnut relative to explain to me why gold has intrinsic value greater than, say, oats or coal that would make it a superior form of currency and he just couldn’t do it.

Yep. When the shit hits the fan, food and water will be the trading commodity. Can’t eat or drink gold, silver, or whatever else.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:50:18pm

re: #523 The Ghost of a Flea

CTs usually seem so unnecessary. In the developed world, the prevailing macroeconomic model acts to further perfect plutocracy by using globalism to sweep away all obstacles to this program. This isn’t a secret.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:52:01pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:52:19pm

re: #545 Lidane

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How long before the wingnuts blame Obama?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:52:51pm

re: #549 Targetpractice

How long before the wingnuts blame Obama?

They already are while at the same time celebrating the Exit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:53:28pm

re: #548 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Man it’s so hard to choose a favorite. I really like fuckmuppet though.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:53:29pm

re: #548 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s art.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:53:30pm
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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:53:50pm

re: #548 Backwoods_Sleuth

“If it’s not Scottish, IT’S CRAP!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:54:21pm

re: #552 EPR-radar

That’s art.

Yep what Scotland may lack n great painters, they make up for in word wizardry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:54:48pm

re: #554 TedStriker

“If it’s not Scottish, IT”S CRAP!!!”

LOLOLOLOL!!!
That is exactly what MrBWS said when he finally got home today and I was getting him up to speed on what happened overnight.

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Lidane  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:54:50pm

re: #549 Targetpractice

How long before the wingnuts blame Obama?

Too late for that. They’ve been saying it’s Obama’s fault while praising Brexit since last night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:55:58pm

Now, that is serious…

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Timothy Watson  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:57:14pm

Can someone who is smarter than me explain why the CSS rule “page-break-inside: avoid” works properly in Internet Explorer and Firefox, but not in Chrome when every site says it should?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:57:21pm
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Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:57:26pm

Sarah Palin Excited Enough about Brexit to Name Her Next Child After It - Wonkette

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Heh. The spellcheck in my computer hits Palin as misspelt.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:57:37pm

re: #558 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now, that is serious…

Lincoln dealt with depression, mourning the loss of his son, and the greatest internal crisis this country ever faced and didn’t falter under pressure. Trump meanwhile can’t even run a profitable casino.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:58:01pm

re: #561 Anymouse

Sarah Palin Excited Enough about Brexit to Name Her Next Child After It - Wonkette

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Heh. The spellcheck in my computer hits Palin as misspelt.

B-Rex Palin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:59:22pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:59:50pm

If you are in the mood for pitch black humor, this twitter feed is brilliant. eat at arby’s

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nines09  Jun 24, 2016 • 4:59:56pm

re: #561 Anymouse

Sarah Palin Excited Enough about Brexit to Name Her Next Child After It - Wonkette

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Heh. The spellcheck in my computer hits Palin as misspelt.

Witless Cocksplat was taken, I presume.

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Lidane  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:01:06pm

Harry Potter actor. He was the Gryffindor Quidditch captain in the first two HP films:

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nines09  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:02:01pm

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:02:54pm

re: #567 Lidane

Harry Potter actor. He was the Gryffindor Quidditch captain in the first two HP films:

How kids grow up so fast…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:03:17pm

re: #567 Lidane

Harry Potter actor. He was the Gryffindor Quidditch captain in the first two HP films:

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Great use of the word fuck.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:03:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:05:24pm

re: #571 goddamnedfrank

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You said it yourself Donald, a vote for you is a vote to fuck the economy.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:07:47pm

re: #571 goddamnedfrank

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:08:34pm

re: #565 Big Beautiful Door

If you are in the mood for pitch black humor, this twitter feed is brilliant. eat at arby’s

That is astonishingly bleak.

E.g.,

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MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:13:31pm

re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s Moody’s. Please forgive me if I say fuck them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:15:06pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:18:02pm

re: #538 HappyWarrior

So they want the benefits of the EU without having to be EU members? Yeah no guys. You should have read what you were getting by voting to leave.

Same as the teabaggers. Same.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:18:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:18:43pm

re: #577 Stanley Sea

Same as the teabaggers. Same.

Yep.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:19:07pm

re: #539 Lidane

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trump: I will be the best depresser! You thought Hoover was bad, I will be better!

(heh you fucking rubes)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:19:16pm

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is there anything scummy he won’t do?

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:20:33pm

re: #581 HappyWarrior

Is there anything scummy he won’t do?

If he hasn’t done it it’s only because he hasn’t thought of it yet. And let’s give his adult kids some credit; they’re every bit as scummy as he is.

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BeachDem  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:21:30pm

re: #548 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ignorant fuckmuppet for the win!

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:22:56pm

re: #580 Stanley Sea

trump: I will be the best depresser! You thought Hoover was bad, I will be better!

(heh you fucking rubes)

Hoover was a somewhat decent and competent person who followed a stupid economic ideology.

Trump is an indecent and incompetent person who would follow a stupid and evil ideology when he wasn’t doing random, stupid and evil improvisations.

For the record, it is noted that most of the NeverTrumpers only have a problem with “random” above.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:23:47pm

re: #514 Skip Intro

Just two years after it opened, Trump’s representatives told the L.A. County Assessor that it was actually worth just $10 million.

If they put that in writing, sworn to under oath… there’s the just compensation number for the county to take it and turn it into a public park.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:23:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:23:59pm

re: #582 Skip Intro

If he hasn’t done it it’s only because he hasn’t thought of it yet. And let’s give his adult kids some credit; they’re every bit as scummy as he is.

Yeah the kids aren’t alright.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:24:12pm

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Life is hard. It’s harder when you’re stupid.”

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:24:34pm

re: #582 Skip Intro

If he hasn’t done it it’s only because he hasn’t thought of it yet. And let’s give his adult kids some credit; they’re every bit as scummy as he is.

I’ll have to commit “The Douche does not fall far from the Bag” in this context to long term memory.

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:25:32pm

re: #582 Skip Intro

If he hasn’t done it it’s only because he hasn’t thought of it yet. And let’s give his adult kids some credit; they’re every bit as scummy as he is.

Why wouldn’t they be? They’ve spent a lifetime at the knee of the master of scum.

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:25:54pm

re: #583 BeachDem

Ignorant fuckmuppet for the win!

What? Not incompressible jizztrumpet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:26:16pm

re: #588 Blind Frog Belly White

“Life is hard. It’s harder when you’re stupid.”

“You can’t fix stupid.”

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:26:58pm

re: #592 Backwoods_Sleuth

“You can’t fix stupid.”

“Here’s your sign!”

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:27:04pm

re: #590 TedStriker

Why wouldn’t they be? They’ve spent a lifetime at the knee of the master of scum.

They could have made their own way, but they all chose to stay with bad daddy.

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:27:06pm
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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:27:15pm

Fuckmuppet?

Britian went xeno and world markets crumbled but we came up with fuckmuppet and cocksplat.

Overall, I gotta say it’s been a good day.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:27:28pm

re: #586 Dave In Austin

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That was great.

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Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:29:09pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:29:40pm

re: #591 Skip Intro

What? Not incompressible jizztrumpet?

Poking around on the internet gave “spoon” as one of the insults used by a Scot for Trump.

Apparently it is applied to idiots too stupid to be trusted with dangerous objects like knives and forks.

Now I have an enjoyable image in my head of the entire House Republican caucus attempting to eat steak with spoons.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:31:09pm
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CuriousLurker  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:31:22pm

re: #559 Timothy Watson

Can someone who is smarter than me explain why the CSS rule “page-break-inside: avoid” works properly in Internet Explorer and Firefox, but not in Chrome when every site says it should?

Are you sure you have your syntax right? CSS-Tricks is one of the best resources for CSS stuff that I know of. See css-tricks.com.

Also searching for that issue brings up like 500K hits, so you’re not alone.

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EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:31:28pm

re: #591 Skip Intro

What? Not incompressible jizztrumpet?

If your incompressible jizztrumpet lasts for more than 4 hours, seek medical attention.

(someone had to do it)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:31:54pm

re: #599 EPR-radar

Poking around on the internet gave “spoon” as one of the insults used by a Scot for Trump.

Apparently it is applied to idiots too stupid to be trusted with dangerous objects like knives and forks.

Now I have an enjoyable image in my head of the entire House Republican caucus attempting to eat steak with spoons.

Mr BWS is now bemoaning that one of his favorite cartoon characters has been demoted to “stupid”.

Then he said…oh…wait…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:32:23pm

re: #600 Stanley Sea

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Awful.

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Skip Intro  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:32:34pm

British Lose Right to Claim That Americans Are Dumber

newyorker.com

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darthstar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:33:01pm
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Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:33:52pm

re: #600 Stanley Sea

And that is exactly what conservatives want here.

I am not a Muslim, but I fit into enough groups they hate (not dislike, but hate) that I would be really worried about a Trump win (or even a loss with a significant fraction of the vote)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:36:42pm

Wow, that IS dark!

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Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:36:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:36:58pm

re: #607 Anymouse

And that is exactly what conservatives want here.

I am not a Muslim, but I fit into enough groups they hate (not dislike, but hate) that I would be really worried about a Trump win (or even a loss with a significant fraction of the vote)

Conservatives will always need a scapegoat.it’s how their ideology thrives.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:37:17pm

re: #607 Anymouse

And that is exactly what conservatives want here.

I am not a Muslim, but I fit into enough groups they hate (not dislike, but hate) that I would be really worried about a Trump win (or even a loss with a significant fraction of the vote)

Add guns to the equation.

So many people have a lot of hate in them. It’s a very dangerous time.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:38:37pm

re: #611 Stanley Sea

Add guns to the equation.

So many people have a lot of hate in them. It’s a very dangerous time.

It’s part of why I’ve turned very anti-gun. A lot of hateful people out there who want to be able to have as many guns as they want. Scary stuff.

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Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:39:06pm

re: #611 Stanley Sea

Add guns to the equation.

So many people have a lot of hate in them. It’s a very dangerous time.

My standard answer to wingnuts: “Liberals don’t want to take your guns, we have our own.”

That said, I also have a car and money. When the GOPalooza hits Cleveland, I will be in Manitoba.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:39:20pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:40:12pm

re: #611 Stanley Sea

Add guns to the equation.

So many people have a lot of hate in them. It’s a very dangerous time.

I used to work with an English woman. She reckoned that if there were as many guns/person in Britain as there are here, it’d be a nonstop fucking bloodbath, because everyone hated everyone else so much.

THAT was a surprise.

616
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:40:12pm

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617
FormerDirtDart  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:40:34pm
618
EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:41:19pm

re: #616 Anymouse

Some of that stuff is severe enough to go behind spoiler tags.

619
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:41:20pm

re: #615 Blind Frog Belly White

I used to work with an English woman. She reckoned that if there were as many guns/person in Britain as there are here, it’d be a nonstop fucking bloodbath, because everyone hated everyone else so much.

THAT was a surprise.

So much for armedness and politeness.

620
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:42:03pm

re: #619 HappyWarrior

So much for armedness and politeness.

But there will be tea and crumpets afterward.

621
MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:42:53pm

re: #620 Backwoods_Sleuth

But there will be tea and crumpets afterward.

I love love love crumpets!

622
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:43:51pm

re: #620 Backwoods_Sleuth

But there will be tea and crumpets afterward.

If I know Mary as well as I think I do, she’ll invite us right in for tea and strumpets.

623
freetoken  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:43:58pm

The religious wingnuts in this country have to be suffering a kind of group schizophrenia, I can only surmise.

After continuing berating Drumpfskind, even in the past 48 hours, over at Son of Erick’s The Regurgitant, they run with their lead story:

What Brexit IS and IS NOT About

Which is basically praising Farage and his ilk in the UKIP.

624
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:44:18pm
625
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:44:28pm

re: #621 MsJ

I love love love crumpets!

I always thought crumpets were what we call “English muffins” but apparently there is a difference.

626
stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:44:31pm

re: #617 FormerDirtDart

So are the Brits going to celebrate June 23 from now on as their own Independence Day? I wonder what England will be like on the first anniversary?

627
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:45:25pm

re: #618 EPR-radar

Some of that stuff is severe enough to go behind spoiler tags.

Done.

628
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:45:26pm

They have different pancakes than we do too.

629
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:45:47pm

re: #625 The Vicious Babushka

I always thought crumpets were what we call “English muffins” but apparently there is a difference.

Indeed. Properly buttered, the crumpets will kill you YEARS sooner.

630
Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:47:41pm

re: #623 freetoken

The religious wingnuts in this country have to be suffering a kind of group schizophrenia, I can only surmise.

After continuing berating Drumpfskind, even in the past 48 hours, over at Son of Erick’s The Regurgitant, they run with their lead story:

What Brexit IS and IS NOT About

Which is basically praising Farage and his ilk in the UKIP.

The hardest thing for a racist to admit is that they’re racist.

631
freetoken  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:48:12pm

One reason, I’m convinced, that the religious wingnuts hate the EU so much, and why they are celebrating Brexit, is because of Hal Lindsay and the apocalyptic movement that was so popular in American fundamentalist circles from the 1970’s till only a few years ago.

The apocalypse crowd bought into the idea that the EU was the work of the devil, because in Revelations there is the whole thing with the beast with 12 horns, etc. Supposedly the EU was this beast.

Yes, this is what they believe(d).

632
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:48:19pm

re: #623 freetoken

The religious wingnuts in this country have to be suffering a kind of group schizophrenia, I can only surmise.

After continuing berating Drumpfskind, even in the past 48 hours, over at Son of Erick’s The Regurgitant, they run with their lead story:

What Brexit IS and IS NOT About

Which is basically praising Farage and his ilk in the UKIP.

Doesn’t the Regurgitant imply Erick Erickson just vomits stuff up?

633
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:48:28pm

re: #630 Stanley Sea

The hardest thing for a racist to admit is that they’re racist.

Yep I see that all the time.

634
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:48:36pm
635
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:48:38pm

re: #630 Stanley Sea

The hardest thing for a racist to admit is that they’re racist.

They’ve internalized that racism is bad, but not what racism is.

636
Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:48:44pm

re: #625 The Vicious Babushka

I always thought crumpets were what we call “English muffins” but apparently there is a difference.

I bought some crumpets. I can’t figure out what to put on em. (low cal, so no butter)

637
TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:49:28pm

re: #630 Stanley Sea

The hardest thing for a racist to admit is that they’re racist.

But they’ll always tell people “how it is” and “call a spade a spade”.

638
EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:49:35pm

re: #623 freetoken

The religious wingnuts in this country have to be suffering a kind of group schizophrenia, I can only surmise.

After continuing berating Drumpfskind, even in the past 48 hours, over at Son of Erick’s The Regurgitant, they run with their lead story:

What Brexit IS and IS NOT About

Which is basically praising Farage and his ilk in the UKIP.

There may be some good points in that screed. However, after seeing “beta-male limousine liberals” in the text, I can’t be bothered to look for anything good in this dungheap.

639
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:50:11pm

re: #635 Blind Frog Belly White

They’ve internalized that racism is bad, but not what racism is.

It’s honestly the same with how they are with fascism. They know fascism is bad but they don’t know what it acutally is.

640
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:50:21pm

More Scottish Trump insults:

Facebook Post

641
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:50:43pm

re: #636 Stanley Sea

I bought some crumpets. I can’t figure out what to put on em. (low cal, so no butter)

Don’t bother, then.
/////

642
Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:52:32pm

re: #633 HappyWarrior

Yep I see that all the time.

I saw someone (in a comment, fuck me I read them) call Lorretta Lynch a racist.

I was like, hmmmmmm wonder where that came from. Blackity black black.

I favorited GeneJockey’s comment from earlier, because it is so well said:

WE are the ones who defined them as a group for the purpose of marginalizing and excluding them, so if we don’t like them using that group identity as a source of power, tough shit.

643
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:52:46pm

re: #639 HappyWarrior

It’s honestly the same with how they are with fascism. They know fascism is bad but they don’t know what it acutally is.

This is why they can say, unironically, “N*gg*rs are the REAL racists!”, or that Hitler was a Fascist, Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarians are Fascists.

644
EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:54:16pm

re: #639 HappyWarrior

It’s honestly the same with how they are with fascism. They know fascism is bad but they don’t know what it acutally is.

Conservatives have a very clear working definition of fascism. Fascism is anything liberals propose that might interfere with conservatives’ entertainments.

The fact that this definition is 100% wrong is irrelevant.

645
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:54:41pm

re: #642 Stanley Sea

I saw someone (in a comment, fuck me I read them) call Lorretta Lynch a racist.

I was like, hmmmmmm wonder where that came from. Blackity black black.

I favorited GeneJockey’s comment from earlier, because it is so well said:

Yeah we hear Obama called a racist towards white people all the time without any merit. I’ve been seeing so many stupid memes on FB the past couple days from a very good friend of mine. I’m more sad than angry at this point.

646
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:55:44pm

re: #643 Blind Frog Belly White

This is why they can say, unironically, “N*gg*rs are the REAL racists!”, or that Hitler was a Fascist, Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarians are Fascists.

Yes, it’s also how they think they can attack African-Americans for being in the same party that started the KKK. They’re different than outright KKK/Neo-Nazi types, they know the Nazis, KKK, fascism, etc suck but tehy don’t that the right wing ideology is all those things.

647
EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:56:39pm

re: #640 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wouldn’t Trump view “incompressible jizztrumpet” as a compliment (assuming he can figure out what it means)?

648
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:56:54pm

re: #644 EPR-radar

Conservatives have a very clear working definition of fascism. Fascism is anything liberals propose that might interfere with conservatives’ entertainments.

The fact that this definition is 100% wrong is irrelevant.

Yep, my buddy was bitching about fascist feminists and I told him it was absurd to call that fascism. He offered up some complaining bs about how tehy shout down conservative speakers and I had to point out to him that conservatives shout down liberal speakers frequently and even have a past of banning them.

649
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:58:22pm

The worst racist is the racist who doesn’t know he’s being racist. He’ll post memes shaming BLM for not caring that black police officers are killed and totally ignore that BLM exists in the first place because black civillians killed by police’s crimes are seldom prosecuted.

650
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 5:58:46pm

re: #648 HappyWarrior

Yep, my buddy was bitching about fascist feminists and I told him it was absurd to call that fascism. He offered up some complaining bs about how tehy shout down conservative speakers and I had to point out to him that conservatives shout down liberal speakers frequently and even have a past of banning them.

Or shooting them (re: Gabrielle Giffords, Planned Parenthood, &c)

651
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:00:27pm

re: #647 EPR-radar

Wouldn’t Trump view “incompressible jizztrumpet” as a compliment (assuming he can figure out what it means)?

Probably, because it has “trump” in it.

652
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:00:29pm

re: #650 Anymouse

Or shooting them (re: Gabrielle Giffords, Planned Parenthood, &c)

Absolutely.

653
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:01:59pm

re: #652 HappyWarrior

Absolutely.

See also shouting matches at town hall meetings by Tea Party activists.

654
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:03:26pm

I tell you the worst is when they talk down to people though. Oh you don’t know everything there is about guns, so you’re a stupid libtard who can’t talk about sensible gun laws because you don’t know every last goddamned thing about guns. Oh, you’er black, don’t you know that the Democrats were once a racist party because ya know political reality of 150 years ago means everything but the fact that Lee Atwater and the Southern Strategy means nothing. Or the newly out of the closet Jim Hoft insisting that it was a conservative court that ruled in favor of same sex marriage even though the courts conservatives complained about the decision.

655
EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:04:05pm

re: #632 Anymouse

Doesn’t the Regurgitant imply Erick Erickson just vomits stuff up?

The actual name for Erick Erickson’s latest and greatest is The Resurgent.

I find it irresistible to change this to The Regurgitant at every opportunity.

656
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:04:16pm

re: #653 Anymouse

See also shouting matches at town hall meetings by Tea Party activists.

That’s a great example. I’m going to definitely point that out ot him the next time be hitches to me about Feminazis. I told him flat out i find that term unbelievably offensive considering as I’ve told you about my mom’s family’s experiences in WWII.

657
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:04:43pm

re: #655 EPR-radar

The actual name for Erick Erickson’s latest and greatest is The Resurgent.

I find it irresistible to change this to The Regurgitant at every opportunity.

Resurgent doesn’t sound much better… .

658
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:07:23pm

Oh and AM, another great example is how the O’Reillys and Hannitys treat their guests if they dare to disagree with them. That’s why I find the conservatives bitching about college kids hilarious when I think about it. Conservatives do the same exact if not on a greater scale.

659
No Country For Old Haters  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:08:40pm

re: #654 HappyWarrior

I tell you the worst is when they talk down to people though. Oh you don’t know everything there is about guns, so you’re a stupid libtard who can’t talk about sensible gun laws because you don’t know every last goddamned thing about guns. Oh, you’er black, don’t you know that the Democrats were once a racist party because ya know political reality of 150 years ago means everything but the fact that Lee Atwater and the Southern Strategy means nothing. Or the newly out of the closet Jim Hoft insisting that it was a conservative court that ruled in favor of same sex marriage even though the courts conservatives complained about the decision.

They have their subculture’s beliefs, and will say and believe anything it takes to maintain those beliefs. They’re lying to themselves as much at they’re lying to the rest of us.

Most people aren’t rational at all. They just rationalize and lie to themselves and others in order to feel like they’re good and smart people without being good and smart people.

660
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:09:36pm

re: #659 No Country For Old Haters

They have their subculture’s beliefs, and will say and believe anything it takes to maintain those beliefs. They’re lying to themselves as much at they’re lying to the rest of us.

Most people aren’t rational at all. They just rationalize and lie to themselves and others in order to feel like they’re good and smart people without being good and smart people.

That’s a good point.

661
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:09:49pm

re: #610 HappyWarrior

Conservatives will always need a scapegoat.it’s how their ideology thrives.

The link seems to be bad.

662
No Country For Old Haters  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:10:06pm

re: #655 EPR-radar

The actual name for Erick Erickson’s latest and greatest is The Resurgent.

I find it irresistible to change this to The Regurgitant at every opportunity.

You’re not the only one. Erickson set up an easy joke at his expense, and a lot of us can’t resist that.

663
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:10:50pm

re: #661 Anymouse

The link seems to be bad.

Wasn’t actually meant to be a link heh. I don’t know how that happened.

664
Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:11:18pm
665
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:11:21pm

re: #661 Anymouse

The link seems to be bad.

It’s not a link, just a missing space between sentences.

666
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:11:49pm

re: #663 HappyWarrior

Ya know I hate to be mean but I can’t take someone seriously who posts his political opinions in meme form. Mem

Wasn’t actually meant to be a link heh. I don’t know how that happened.

Charles’ magic will check for something that appears to be a link (has a .com or .org or, in this case, .it ending) and turn it into one just in case you forgot to do so.

667
EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:12:02pm

re: #656 HappyWarrior

That’s a great example. I’m going to definitely point that out ot him the next time be hitches to me about Feminazis. I told him flat out i find that term unbelievably offensive considering as I’ve told you about my mom’s family’s experiences in WWII.

Many right wing nut job talking points can be stopped cold by asking “what’s the body count?”

E.g.

RWNJ: These feminazis are awful. Just listen to the latest outrage Rush told us about…

sane person: How many people have these feminazis killed? Where are their concentration camps? Please let me know the world war that they started, history books seem to be deficient on this point. etc.

668
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:12:15pm

re: #663 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t actually meant to be a link heh. I don’t know how that happened.

you didn’t put a space after the period.

669
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:12:47pm

re: #663 HappyWarrior

Ya know I hate to be mean but I can’t take someone seriously who posts his political opinions in meme form. Mem

Wasn’t actually meant to be a link heh. I don’t know how that happened.

Hm. I saw blue linky-thingy, went to non-existent Website. Perhaps my irony detector needs ironing?

670
EPR-radar  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:12:48pm

re: #661 Anymouse

The link seems to be bad.

Looks like a syntax pun to me, never intended to be a link.

671
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:13:28pm

re: #665 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s not a link, just a missing space between sentences.

Yeah just a rant with my poor grammar heh. Anyhow, here’s something that’s been bothering me about political debate here in the age of Twitter and social media. So much of debate is reduced to meme form. It dumbs down ideas to reduce ideas to memes. I won’t proclaim to be a great intellectual but a lot of my ideology was shaped by reading, listening to people I respected, and then forming my own opinion.

672
No Country For Old Haters  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:13:31pm

re: #664 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

“Druggie” is really vague, but if he’s hooked on opiates or crack, he’s better off under supervision in prison.

673
Reality Based Steve  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:13:33pm

re: #659 No Country For Old Haters

They have their subculture’s beliefs, and will say and believe anything it takes to maintain those beliefs. They’re lying to themselves as much at they’re lying to the rest of us.

Most people aren’t rational at all. They just rationalize and lie to themselves and others in order to feel like they’re good and smart people without being good and smart people.

I’ve had to deal with the “(neo)Nazis / Aryan Brotherhood are actually liberals, because it’s the National Socialist Party, and Socialist are all libs.” argument.

I simply look at them, stroke my beard, and ask “So, the Nazis / AB are in favor of Mixed Race Marriage, Religious Tolerance and Immigration from non WASP countries, because they are all good liberal positions.”

Yea, I’m a dick sometimes

RBS

674
Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:13:42pm

re: #664 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Can you imagine how much the dad went through before he throws up his hands and gives up to the point where he wants his son jailed to get help?

And the $$$

675
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:13:54pm

re: #669 Anymouse

Hm. I saw blue linky-thingy, went to non-existent Website. Perhaps my irony detector needs ironing?

Yeah that happens sometimes.

676
HappyWarrior  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:16:08pm

re: #673 Reality Based Steve

I’ve had to deal with the “(neo)Nazis / Aryan Brotherhood are actually liberals, because it’s the National Socialist Party, and Socialist are all libs.” argument.

I simply look at them, stroke my beard, and ask “So, the Nazis / AB are in favor of Mixed Race Marriage, Religious Tolerance and Immigration from non WASP countries, because they are all good liberal positions.”

Yea, I’m a dick sometimes

RBS

That argument amuses me because at the same time they’re hating us for embracing multiculturalism and diversity.

677
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:17:26pm

re: #667 EPR-radar

Many right wing nut job talking points can be stopped cold by asking “what’s the body count?”

E.g.

RWNJ: These feminazis are awful. Just listen to the latest outrage Rush told us about…

sane person: How many people have these feminazis killed? Where are their concentration camps? Please let me know the world war that they started, history books seem to be deficient on this point. etc.

The Holocaust is a liberal lie! It didn’t happen!

678
No Country For Old Haters  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:20:55pm

re: #673 Reality Based Steve

I’ve had to deal with the “(neo)Nazis / Aryan Brotherhood are actually liberals, because it’s the National Socialist Party, and Socialist are all libs.” argument.

I simply look at them, stroke my beard, and ask “So, the Nazis / AB are in favor of Mixed Race Marriage, Religious Tolerance and Immigration from non WASP countries, because they are all good liberal positions.”

Yea, I’m a dick sometimes

RBS

That’s not being a dick. You’re doing good work making them think, even though thinking is uncomfortable for them. They probably dismiss you, but it might chip away at the brainwashing over time.

We need to deprogram the Conservatives or we’re going to lose the liberal democracy a lot of us take for granted.

679
TedStriker  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:30:14pm

re: #664 Stanley Sea

Johnny Burnout…

680
MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:32:11pm

re: #625 The Vicious Babushka

I always thought crumpets were what we call “English muffins” but apparently there is a difference.

Yes indeed. I dislike English muffins. But crumpets are da bomb!

681
Anymouse  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:34:25pm

re: #680 MsJ

Yes indeed. I dislike English muffins. But crumpets are da bomb!

I like English Muffins, I make my own with muffin rings.

682
MsJ  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:36:29pm

re: #636 Stanley Sea

I bought some crumpets. I can’t figure out what to put on em. (low cal, so no butter)

I personally like jam or Nutella. Hubby is diabetic so we have sugar free jams and jellies in the house.

Do fat free cream cheese and sliced berries.

Always toast them. They suck out of the box…kinda taste raw.

683
Ziggy_TARDIS  Jun 24, 2016 • 6:42:01pm

re: #640 Backwoods_Sleuth

Scotland can teach us so much! They should join us!

////

684
Ming5000  Jun 25, 2016 • 5:22:48am

re: #586 Dave In Austin

That Elizabeth Warren video is well worth the viewing.


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Inside the Middle East’s First Rape & Domestic Violence Crisis Program For the last year and a half, there’s been a new sight in the Kingdom of Bahrain. Lodged into stacks of newspapers, stuck to mirrors in restaurant bathrooms, and pinned to grocery store notice boards are small, blue-and-white fliers ...
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