WaPo-ABC News Poll: Support for Trump Collapses

It’s still early, but the latest polls are looking bad for the Trumpenstein
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Here’s an encouraging sign from the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll: Donald Trump’s poll numbers are taking a serious nose dive.

Support for Donald Trump has plunged as he has alienated fellow Republicans and large majorities of voters overall in the course of a month of self-inflicted controversies, propelling Democrat Hillary Clinton to a double-digit lead nationally in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

The survey finds sweeping unease with the presumptive Republican nominee’s candidacy — from his incendiary rhetoric and values to his handling of both terrorism and his own business — foreshadowing that the November election could be a referendum on Trump more than anything else.

Roughly two in three Americans say they think Trump is unqualified to lead the nation; are anxious about the idea of him as president; believe his comments about women, minorities and Muslims show an unfair bias; and see his attacks on a federal judge because of his Mexican American heritage as racist.

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Ming5000  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:47:02am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:48:46am

I don’t see how it gets better for him.

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Jay C  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:48:57am

Any idea as to why there was such a distinct shift in the polling numbers in mid-May? The Trump and Clinton numbers seemed fairly consistent until then

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:50:09am

re: #3 Jay C

Any idea as to why there was such a distinct shift in the polling numbers in mid-May? The Trump and Clinton numbers seemed fairly consistent until then

Perhaps it was how Trump responded to Orlando and some people went “Holy shit, this assgoblin may actually be President?”

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:50:43am

Can’t wait for the Cleveland Clowncar Convention. I’ll have a giant bag of popcorn and park my ass on LGF the whole time.

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Ming5000  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:50:43am

re: #3 Jay C

Any idea as to why there was such a distinct shift in the polling numbers in mid-May? The Trump and Clinton numbers seemed fairly consistent until then

Trump clinched the GOP nomination at the end of May. Maybe that is why

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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:51:24am

Librul MSM in unison: But, but, but, the Orlando shooting is going to help Trump in the polls!

Librul MSM in unison: But, but, but, Brexit is going to help Trump in the polls!

Librul MSM in unison: But, but, but, _______ [insert next event] is going to help Trump in the polls!

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:51:30am

re: #5 SoundGuy 2016

Save me a seat. I will bring the drinks.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:51:50am

re: #3 Jay C

Any idea as to why there was such a distinct shift in the polling numbers in mid-May? The Trump and Clinton numbers seemed fairly consistent until then

I think that was when he became the presumptive nominee, a few people looked up and said, “I guess he’s our man.” And then he opened his mouth and they said “Not only no, but hell no.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:52:02am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:52:06am

re: #3 Jay C

Any idea as to why there was such a distinct shift in the polling numbers in mid-May? The Trump and Clinton numbers seemed fairly consistent until then

May was when Trump made his insane statements about ordering the military to torture prisoners, and also when he began his racist attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel.

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Ming5000  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:52:12am

re: #5 SoundGuy 2016

Can’t wait for the Cleveland Clowncar Convention. I’ll have a giant bag of popcorn and park my ass on LGF the whole time.

I am not thinking the convention will be a violent debacle as I once was. Now I am more with you, it will be stoopid crazy. Please just let Trump remain the nominee.

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Great White Snark  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:52:57am

How ironic would it be if we look back next year and observe Brexit was the end? And related WTF with all the violence over there? Aghast here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:53:40am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

May was when Trump made his insane statements about ordering the military to torture prisoners, and also when he began his racist attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel.

Good points about Curiel and ordering the torture.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:54:31am

In a weird sort of way I’m worried Trump will tank so hard and fast the GOP will be able to muster up a candidate to replace him that will have a reasonable shot to win… or at least make it close.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:54:58am

re: #12 Ming5000

I am not thinking the convention will be a violent debacles as I once was. Now I am more with you, it will be stoopid crazy. Please just let Trump remain the nominee.

Here’s the catch- GOP nominates Trump and they’re stuck with him. GOP doesn’t nomiante him and their base is furious and refuses to help them. It’s a Catch-22 and the GOP deserves every bit of it after years of pandering to and embracing bigotry. Now if only this can bankrupt Rush Limbaugh and he’s as poor as the welfare recipients he’s spent years belittling.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:55:00am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:55:20am

re: #15 SoundGuy 2016

In a weird sort of way I’m worried Trump will tank so hard and fast the GOP will be able to muster up a candidate to replace him that will have a reasonable shot to win… or at least make it close.

The GOP base still likes Trump but I understand what you’re saying.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:56:02am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Greta’s such a sorry excuse for a journalist. Only a hack would see someone above 50% in late June and someone below 40% and conclude the poll was bad news for the former.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:56:57am

It’s customary to say “it’s early” this far out, but this campaign is different. I don’t think the general public has ever been so thoroughly familiar with both candidates before the campaign really starts. All they’re going to see from here on is Hillary looking more and more Presidential and tRump going from meltdown to meltdown as things start getting worse for him.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:57:41am

re: #20 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s customary to say “it’s early” this far out, but this campaign is different. I don’t think the general public has ever been so thoroughly familiar with both candidates before the campaign really starts. All they’re going to see from here on is Hillary looking more and more Presidential and tRump going from meltdown to meltdown as things start getting worse for him.

Yeah that is what makes this election pretty unique.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:58:16am

I want to see some polls conducted entirely after the Brexit vote. His performance in Scotland was simply horrifying, nothing but glib indifference to the harm done to many people’s life savings and glee that it might be good for him personally in terms of making Turnberry golf vacations more attractable / affordable.

A market correction like this and a terrorist attack like the nightclub shooting in Orlando should nominally play into his perceived strengths with voters, but his handling of these events has been so crass and unpresidential that I’ll be surprised if he actually gets a bump from the Leave vote. Instead he may well crater further.

I’m actually a little bit worried at this point that he’s crashing too early and that the Dump Trump movement may succeed, replacing him with someone who is just as despicable but better at hiding it.

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KerFuFFler  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:59:26am

I just hope results like this don’t make democratic voters complacent; the down ticket races will be hugely important if we want Hillary to be able to get anything done!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 11:59:41am

An American Airlines plane has been evacuated at Heathrow Airport following reports that the cabin filled with black smoke.

Flight AA 731 had been due to fly to Charlotte, USA, when it had to be evacuated around 12.30pm this afternoon at terminal 3.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:00:04pm

Ha ha, ha ha, ha… er… huh.

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KGxvi  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:00:18pm

39%? That’s McGovern/Mondale/Goldwater territory. Also, makes me wonder if we’re about to see a national test of the crazification factor.

Edited to add Goldwater.

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MsJ  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:00:23pm

re: #15 SoundGuy 2016

In a weird sort of way I’m worried Trump will tank so hard and fast the GOP will be able to muster up a candidate to replace him that will have a reasonable shot to win… or at least make it close.

That’s what I’ve been saying for weeks now. It’s too damn soon. This should wait until after Cleveland. I do not believe trump will be the GOP nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:00:54pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

I want to see some polls conducted entirely after the Brexit vote. His performance in Scotland was simply horrifying, nothing but glib indifference to the harm done to many people’s life savings and glee that it might be good for him personally in terms of making Turnberry golf vacations more attractable / affordable.

A market correction, like the terrorist attack in Orlando, should nominally play into his perceived strengths with voters, but his handling of these events has been so crass and unpresidential that I’ll be surprised if he actually gets a bump from the Leave vote. Instead he may well crater further.

I’m actually a little bit worried at this point that he’s crashing too early and that the Dump Trump movement may succeed, replacing him with someone who is just as despicable but better at hiding it.

It’s a legitimate concern but I think the party leadership will resist doing it. They know that even though most of the country finds Trump detestable, he remains popular with their base and their base already doesn’t think too much of them. They know that if they were to pull something like that, they’d get a lot of people to turn on their party and it would make Trump look even more sympathetic to their nutso base. I dunno. This is such a strange election.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:01:41pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

I’m actually a little bit worried at this point that he’s crashing too early and that the Dump Trump movement may succeed, replacing him with someone who is just as despicable but better at hiding it.

That. Right there.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:01:56pm

If only there had been a gun in the home…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:02:46pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:02:55pm

re: #30 Frankie Five Angels

If only there had been a gun in the home…

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If only a good guy with a gun was there. This shit just makes me angry. But yeah the Democrats are just terrible for wanting gun control so people like this woman can’t have access to weapons.

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calochortus  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:05:21pm

re: #27 MsJ

That’s what I’ve been saying for weeks now. It’s too damn soon. This should wait until after Cleveland. I do not believe trump will be the GOP nominee.

But who would replace him? If there had been a popular, unifying candidate anywhere in sight during the primaries, Trump wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:06:02pm

re: #33 calochortus

But who would replace him? If there had been a popular, unifying candidate anywhere in sight during the primaries, Trump wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee.

A very good point.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:06:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:07:32pm

re: #35 Teukka

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Wouldn’t be surprised if they help fund a lot of the “pro family” organizations too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:07:35pm

re: #3 Jay C

Any idea as to why there was such a distinct shift in the polling numbers in mid-May? The Trump and Clinton numbers seemed fairly consistent until then

I think there are a number of factors all playing into it.

First, people outside the party bases are paying attention, since the Primaries ended.

Second, because Primaries ended, people expected Trump to start acting more like a President. I think EVERYONE was figuring he’d switch to a different mode for the General, and so many people gave him a lot of leeway for his behavior in the Primary.

Third, Trump University, in all its facets, both the revelation that he was just a con man bilking regular folks AND a thinskinned racist who could not control the urge to attack the judge in an openly racist way. Oh, and the revelation that he doesn’t pay contractors and workers.

Fourth, HRC’s excellent speech using all his own words against him, delivered in a calm, measured, non-shouty way, making the case that he’s not tempermentally fit for the office. This helped solidify the impression Trump himself was making, while making her look better.

Fifth, Orlando and his self-congratulatory response. Confirmed him as a narcissist who cared more about being seen as having been right than about 49 dead Americans. Add to that the Scotland visit and his response to Brexit.

Sixth, the campaign financing thing, which refuted the idea that he’s some kind of genius manager.

Seventh, because of all the above, Republicans are starting to openly declare against him.

I think Americans had an image of him as a showman, maybe a bit of a buffoon, but thought MAYBE there’s really a smart person under that weird hairdo, so they were giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he’d reveal that smart person. Instead, he revealed that he really is just a showman and a buffoon, but also a thin skinned racist, proudly and wilfully ignorant, a vindictive and preening narcissist. And it was all Trump who did it.

I DO think the media started dealing with him a bit more critically, but mostly Trump himself confirmed everyone’s worst fears about him. And that image just keeps getting more and more solid.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:08:44pm

re: #33 calochortus

But who would replace him? If there had been a popular, unifying candidate anywhere in sight during the primaries, Trump wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee.

They haven’t thought that far ahead. I’m sure they’ll just try and find the least offensive guy… which will offend the hardcore TP’s and Trumpenstaffel. It will still be a shitstorm.

But a small move in the direction of closing the Clinton gap.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:08:47pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t be surprised if they help fund a lot of the “pro family” organizations too.

And the anti-LGBTQ groups.
Some people over there have this pipe dream of a conservative world revolution…

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:08:56pm

The Republicans cannot replace Trump in this day and age. People will know as it happens, and the shitstorm would be fierce. Plus, Trump isn’t going to take being told he’s not the nominee with any sort of grace. He and his followers will turn on Republicans.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:09:06pm

It was their father’s 45th birthday, too.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:09:15pm

re: #27 MsJ

That’s what I’ve been saying for weeks now. It’s too damn soon. This should wait until after Cleveland. I do not believe trump will be the GOP nominee.

This is a concern.
It’s also terrible option for the GOP. Trump’s supporters would revolt.

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Great White Snark  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:09:23pm

Sorry the following gets a little GOP insular can not avoid the party for this-

What Trump is missing in endorsements is telling. Ex Presidents? VP’s? Senators? Ex Sec States? Ex Sec Def? First Ladies?Major GOP governors? I did not say Congress because there we do start to see support. And it’s not really just missing endorsements. Very big names coming out against him. Can anyone win without all that? Laura Bush… Loudest silence in the game right now. Any GOP women (besides Sarah P) like say perhaps Condi Rice? Who is the most popular A list person from politics or popular culture you can think of that is enthusiastically out there stumping for him?

Pretty quiet out there.

Now ask the same question about HRC. Presidents? At least two. VP? At least two. Celebrities, A list? A list Senators? All too numerous to name here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:09:37pm

re: #39 Teukka

And the anti-LGBTQ groups.
Some people over there have this pipe dream of a conservative world revolution…

Yeah, wouldn’t surprise me either.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:09:54pm

re: #40 Belafon

The Republicans cannot replace Trump in this day and age. People will know as it happens, and the shitstorm would be fierce. Plus, Trump isn’t going to take being told he’s not the nominee with any sort of grace. He and his followers will turn on Republicans.

Ayup. There is a non-ignorable possibility the GOP is facing a Kobiyashi Maru scenario here.

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MsJ  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:10:35pm

re: #33 calochortus

But who would replace him? If there had been a popular, unifying candidate anywhere in sight during the primaries, Trump wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee.

That I have no idea. But the powers the be simply are not going to allow full tankage of downstream candidates. They’re just not.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:10:46pm

I think Trump not getting the nomination is the best thing that could happen to Trump. Think of the millions of books he will sell of his “struggle to save America.”

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:11:03pm

re: #45 Teukka

Ayup. There is a non-ignorable possibility the GOP is facing a Kobiyashi Maru scenario here.

And they ain’t got no Kirks.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:11:17pm

re: #43 Great White Snark

Sorry the following gets a little GOP insular can not avoid the party for this-

What Trump is missing in endorsements is telling. Ex Presidents? VP’s? Senators? Ex Sec States? Ex Sec Def? First Ladies?Major GOP governors? I did not say Congress because there we do start to see support. And it’s not really just missing endorsements. Very big names coming out against him. Can anyone win without all that? Laura Bush… Loudest silence in the game right now. Any GOP women (besides Sarah P) like say perhaps Condi Rice? Who is the most popular A list person from politics or popular culture you can think of that is enthusiastically out there stumping for him?

Pretty quiet out there.

Now ask the same question about HRC. Presidents? At least two. VP? At least two. Celebrities, A list? A list Senators? All too numerous to name here.

Sad thing is there are some people who see that as a plus for him and it furthers their delusional belief that “outsiders” like him are good things.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:11:46pm

Wouldn’t the irony level be through the roof it Clinton found evidence of Putin helping push the Trump campaign. Could Republicans handle the communist sympathizer , the real Manchurian candidate in their party?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:13:01pm

re: #50 Belafon

Wouldn’t the irony level be through the roof it Clinton found evidence of Putin helping push the Trump campaign. Could Republicans handle the communist sympathizer , the real Manchurian candidate in their party?

That might be too much but you know after they embraced Qaddafi after Obama’s administration decided it was time for him to go, I don’t think they’ll care. They hate liberals more than they love our country at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:14:42pm

What we’re learning though is around the world there are a lot of people who never really wanted Civil Rights. They prove why the federal government needed to get involved in the first place. I have no doubt if the government had just let the “South alone” during hte Civil Rights years, we’d still have Jim Crow today.

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KGxvi  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:15:01pm

re: #33 calochortus

But who would replace him? If there had been a popular, unifying candidate anywhere in sight during the primaries, Trump wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee.

It would have to be someone who didn’t run. Romney would be the obvious choice, and obviously terrible choice. Other than that, I’ve no real idea, because every other choice they have is terrible. Brownback? LePage? Scott?

In a sane world, someone like Jon Huntsman would have a chance to be the GOP nominee - but he actually supports same sex marriage now and had the audacity to accept an ambassadorship in the Obama Administration.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:16:27pm

in 1980 june was the month when reagan started to outpoll carter

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calochortus  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:16:36pm

re: #38 SoundGuy 2016

They haven’t thought that far ahead. I’m sure they’ll just try and find the least offensive guy… which will offend the hardcore TP’s and Trumpenstaffel. It will still be a shitstorm.

But a small move in the direction of closing the Clinton gap.

I don’t see how the GOP manages to turn their flaming dumpster around with any of the available, known candidates, and an unknown is likely to be a disaster-they would only have 10 or 11 weeks to introduce this person and convince folks to vote for him.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:17:43pm

When Trump said that women should be punished for getting abortions is when I knew the election was over for him. If he thinks Hillary won’t have that video on a loop for the next four months, he’s dumber than I thought.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:17:48pm

re: #53 KGxvi

It would have to be someone who didn’t run. Romney would be the obvious choice, and obviously terrible choice. Other than that, I’ve no real idea, because every other choice they have is terrible. Brownback? LePage? Scott?

In a sane world, someone like Jon Huntsman would have a chance to be the GOP nominee - but he actually supports same sex marriage now and had the audacity to accept an ambassadorship in the Obama Administration.

I think that’s exactly why it won’t happen. The base never liked Romney that much. He had to wrestle with Santorum to get the nomination a few years ago and Santorum was a virtual non factor this primary season. LePage and Scott are both staunch Trump supporters too. Brownback is heavily unpopular in his own state. I can’t imagine how he’d be seen nationally. But yeah in a sane world, a guy like Huntsman would be a good example if he had has his own problems.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:17:50pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:19:14pm

re: #33 calochortus

But who would replace him? If there had been a popular, unifying candidate anywhere in sight during the primaries, Trump wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee.

i say they’ll put in kasich

and half the party will howl in rage and vow never to vote for the stinkin rino

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:19:39pm

Think about it. Clinton is at 51% a month before the convention when people really start to pay attention.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:19:39pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:20:09pm

The biggest issue is voting participation… as it always is. There’s a real chance that women and minorities will come out in full force. Low turnout will mean angry white voters will be over represented.

The real danger is assuming that Hillary will crush Trump and not showing up to vote.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:20:40pm

re: #33 calochortus

But who would replace him? If there had been a popular, unifying candidate anywhere in sight during the primaries, Trump wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee.

Kasich is the obvious choice in terms of polling. The problem from the GOP establishment’s point of view is that if they rob Trump of the nomination and go with Kasich they’ll be owning any ensuing loss lock stock and barrel. The prospect of alienated so many Trump supporters doesn’t recommend that path either, since all of the prior polling assumed Kasich as the legitimate primary winner. Strategically it may be better to just stick with Trump and be able to tell the base afterwards “Okay we tried it your way and got shellacked, we’re done catering to your racism (at least openly.)” Problem with that is that the GOP base will blame Trump’s loss on lack of support from GOP leadership.

On the other hand continuing to run Trump will probably damage to Party so badly with minorities that it never recovers nationally. Honestly it’s already there, the damage is basically done.

Basically what I’m saying is that they’re fucked no matter what, and even if they manage through some miracle to win in November they’re still fucked.

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KGxvi  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:21:52pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

What we’re learning though is around the world there are a lot of people who never really wanted Civil Rights. They prove why the federal government needed to get involved in the first place. I have no doubt if the government had just let the “South alone” during hte Civil Rights years, we’d still have Jim Crow today.

Maybe, maybe not. Brown v Board was decided in 1954. The lower court proceedings in Loving v Virginia started in 1958 (shortly after the Lovings were married in DC). It would have been a much slower process, but I think it is entirely possible that the courts would have dismantled Jim Crow.

(I’m not saying that it would have been a better outcome, but I do believe, as King said, that the arc of the moral universe bends towards justice)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:22:18pm

re: #62 SoundGuy 2016

The biggest issue is voting participation… as it always is. There’s a real chance that women and minorities will come out in full force. Low turnout will mean angry white voters will be over represented.

The real danger is assuming that Hillary will crush Trump and not showing up to vote.

Fortunately there are other elections too. I agree complacency is a potential problem but I think a lot of key groups will be eager to vote for Clinton and against Trump.

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calochortus  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:22:24pm

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

Kasich is the obvious choice in terms of polling. The problem from the GOP establishment’s point of view is that if they rob Trump of the nomination and go with Kasich they’ll be owning any ensuing loss lock stock and barrel. The prospect of alienated so many Trump supporters doesn’t recommend that path either, since all of the prior polling assumed Kasich as the legitimate primary winner. Strategically it may be better to just stick with Trump and be able to tell the base afterwards “Okay we tried it your way and got shellacked, we’re done catering to your racism (at least openly.)” Problem with that is that the GOP base will blame Trump’s loss on lack of support from GOP leadership.

On the other hand continuing to run Trump will probably damage to Party so badly with minorities that it never recovers nationally. Honestly it’s already there, the damage is basically done.

Basically what I’m saying is that they’re fucked no matter what, and even if they manage through some miracle to win in November they’re still fucked.

And, really, I’m OK with that.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:22:27pm

re: #62 SoundGuy 2016

You are absolutely correct.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:23:06pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:23:08pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

It’s a legitimate concern but I think the party leadership will resist doing it. They know that even though most of the country finds Trump detestable, he remains popular with their base and their base already doesn’t think too much of them. They know that if they were to pull something like that, they’d get a lot of people to turn on their party and it would make Trump look even more sympathetic to their nutso base. I dunno. This is such a strange election.

Any congress critter that is a Republican and comes out in favor of a dump Trump movement at the convention stands a good chance of dumping their own chances at a reelection this cycle and in 2018.

The base is pissed…no two ways about it. They do not like ‘establishment’ politicians anymore. So a Republican would be stupid to stand in the way of Trump running this election. Only those that are very very safe in their positions or are ready to retire will say anything negative about Trump.

This is why McConnell is going into his shell. He knows he is teetering. They all are. Paul Ryan…are you paying attention?

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KGxvi  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:23:11pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I think that’s exactly why it won’t happen. The base never liked Romney that much. He had to wrestle with Santorum to get the nomination a few years ago and Santorum was a virtual non factor this primary season. LePage and Scott are both staunch Trump supporters too. Brownback is heavily unpopular in his own state. I can’t imagine how he’d be seen nationally. But yeah in a sane world, a guy like Huntsman would be a good example if he had has his own problems.

I liked Huntsman in 2012, even though I thought he was wrong on abortion and gay marriage (a position he’s since changed). But the state of the GOP today just doesn’t allow for someone like him to have a chance.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:23:58pm

Trump is so toxic, I think 15-20% of women that are registered Republican will vote for Clinton. He has no idea how bad he fucked up with the abortion comments.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:23:59pm

re: #64 KGxvi

Maybe, maybe not. Brown v Board was decided in 1954. The lower court proceedings in Loving v Virginia started in 1958 (shortly after the Lovings were married in DC). It would have been a much slower process, but I think it is entirely possible that the courts would have dismantled Jim Crow.

(I’m not saying that it would have been a better outcome, but I do believe, as King said, that the arc of the moral universe bends towards justice)

I mean if there had been no federal involvement on both the legislative as well as the judicial side which you brought up which is what the conservatives of the era wanted. They thought the federal courts, presidents, and legislatures had no right to tell the South how to do things.

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MsJ  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:24:39pm

re: #42 Not a Sparkly Vampire

This is a concern.
It’s also terrible option for the GOP. Trump’s supporters would revolt.

Trump supporters are the basiest base voters. But there are several bases. Some RW Xians are trying to reform him but the religious right base ain’t buying it in too many places. I doubt the neocon base sees him as a realistic choice bluster or not. Fiscal cons look at his promise of default and run screaming into the night.

So, yes some will revolt. As many as are BernorBusters.

He’s not going to be their nominee. Who will, no idea. But it’s not going to be Trump.

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KGxvi  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:24:40pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

What in the utter fucking fuck?

Reading that tweet may have just killed more brain cells than all the drinking I did in undergrad and law school (and in my first four years of practice).

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:24:49pm

“we have a candidate who doesnt need to figure out what’s going on in order to know what to do”

- paul manafort

well that’s reassuring

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:25:01pm

re: #71 Frankie Five Angels

I am one of those women who will vote for Hillary. I have stated that for several months.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:25:17pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Christ.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:25:19pm

re: #64 KGxvi

Maybe, maybe not. Brown v Board was decided in 1954. The lower court proceedings in Loving v Virginia started in 1958 (shortly after the Lovings were married in DC). It would have been a much slower process, but I think it is entirely possible that the courts would have dismantled Jim Crow.

(I’m not saying that it would have been a better outcome, but I do believe, as King said, that the arc of the moral universe bends towards justice)

What if Eisenhower had not used National Guard troops to enforce desegregation? What if he had instead said “The states can take care of it”?

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No Country For Old Haters  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:25:44pm

I’ve Storified some tweets related to the outbreak of racism since the unfortunate referendum to make them easier to share.

storify.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:25:49pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She does realize he’s running to be President of all America right and that includes liberal women. Goddamn, Palin hasn’t changed at all. Still mean, still stupid. I can’t imagine how it would go if a Clinton surrogate said “Hillary’s not anti man, she’s anti-conservative male.” but hey conservatives tell me more about how liberals are divisive and conservatives are unifers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:26:15pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:26:25pm
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Teukka  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:26:57pm

re: #79 No Country For Old Haters

I’ve Storified some tweets related to the outbreak of racism since the unfortunate referendum to make them easier to share.

storify.com

Also,
thisiswhatyouhavedone.uk

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:27:09pm

re: #78 Belafon

What if Eisenhower had not used National Guard troops to enforce desegregation? What if he had instead said “The states can take care of it”?

That’s my point, yes. I’m saying if the feds have never gotten involved in Civil Rights, there’s a very good chance we could have segregated schools here still.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:27:54pm

Is it too early to start drinking?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:27:54pm

re: #75 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“we have a candidate who doesnt need to figure out what’s going on in order to know what to do”

- paul manafort

well that’s reassuring

Also someone who brags he doesn’t listen to advisers.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:29:03pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is it too early to start drinking?

Men that had foreign accents often times too.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:29:23pm

LOL

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:29:51pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s never too early.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:29:53pm

re: #75 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“we have a candidate who doesnt need to figure out what’s going on in order to know what to do”

- paul manafort

well that’s reassuring

So I guess we don’t need to shut down immigration till we “figure out what’s going on” either?

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KGxvi  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:29:58pm

re: #78 Belafon

What if Eisenhower had not used National Guard troops to enforce desegregation? What if he had instead said “The states can take care of it”?

In that case, things would have gotten worse, not better. It’s a hypothetical akin to “Chief Justice Marshall has rendered his opinion, now let him enforce it.” I was speaking more of Congressional action rather than the executive enforcing court orders. Had Eisenhower not enforced Brown, I’m not sure the Union could have survived.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:30:01pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Also someone who brags he doesn’t listen to advisers.

trump has already been elected president of his own brain

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:30:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:30:28pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

LOL

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Yeah nevermind the fact that every part of Scotland voted to remain part of the EU, the fact that England did means Scotland didn’t. Derp.

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Jay C  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:30:29pm

re: #3 Jay C

Thanks to Charles and the other Lizards for the responses, though what I was looking for was some sort of explanation why Trump’s poll suddenly went UP: Combover Caligula’s downticks are, IMO, pretty self-explanatory….

re: #33 calochortus

But who would replace him? If there had been a popular, unifying candidate anywhere in sight during the primaries, Trump wouldn’t be the presumptive nominee.

True. And also, I think the Republicans will have screwed themselves royally in any event. Even assuming (and IMO, this scenario deserves a ride of its own in Fantasyland) the RNC could get it together to “replace” Trump at the Convention with - Jeez, who? Ryan? Cruz? Joni “Hog-gelder” Ernst? - the Party’s brand will have been severely damaged for this election cycle at least. Dump Trump, and you have a YUUUUGE segment of the base YUUUUGELY pissed off (? write-in Trump? Third-party?), nominate Trump, and you piss off more large segments of the electorate. And accomplish the astonishing political feat of making the Democrats look like the best-organized political party in the country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:30:52pm

re: #30 Frankie Five Angels

If only there had been a gun in the home…

Uncle Duke’s response in Doonesbury to claims that most domestic gun violence is among family members: “If your wife were shooting at you, wouldn’t you want to be in a position to return fire?”

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:30:55pm

Alien abductions have been decreasing.

Know we know why.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:31:03pm

James Dobson: “Donald Trump has accepted Jesus as his lord…”
Trump: “Why not? Half my hotel work staff has that name.”
*ducks*

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:31:09pm

re: #75 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“we have a candidate who doesnt need to figure out what’s going on in order to know what to do”

- paul manafort

well that’s reassuring

This is the very definition of being able to polish a turd.

Spit-shined as a matter of fact.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:31:53pm

What in the utter fuck

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MsJ  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:32:06pm

re: #75 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“we have a candidate who doesnt need to figure out what’s going on in order to know what to do”

- paul manafort

well that’s reassuring

Oh you little people who need reassurance. Trump laughs in your face.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:32:56pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:32:58pm

re: #95 Jay C

Thanks to Charles and the other Lizards for the responses, though what I was looking for was some sort of explanation why Trump’s poll suddenly went UP: Combover Caligula’s downticks are, IMO, pretty self-explanatory….

True. And also, I think the Republicans will have screwed themselves royally in any event. Even assuming (and IMO, this scenario deserves a ride of its own in Fantasyland) the RNC could get it together to “replace” Trump at the Convention with - Jeez, who? Ryan? Cruz? Joni “Hog-gelder” Ernst? - the Party’s brand will have been severely damaged for this election cycle at least. Dump Trump, and you have a YUUUUGE segment of the base YUUUUGELY pissed off (? write-in Trump? Third-party?), nominate Trump, and you piss off more large segments of the electorate. And accomplish the astonishing political feat of making the Democrats look like the best-organized political party in the country.

Ernst/Fallin. Double “Woman Card™”.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:33:00pm
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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:35:52pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

Madness. Utter madness.

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stpaulbear  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:35:54pm

re: #46 MsJ

That I have no idea. But the powers the be simply are not going to allow full tankage of downstream candidates. They’re just not.

They’d almost have to propose a coalition rather than a candidate. I’m worried about Trump tanking too soon too but there’s no way that any given replacement gets over 30%.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:36:00pm

oh dear:

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:36:04pm
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Teukka  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:36:39pm

re: #105 SoundGuy 2016

Madness. Utter madness.

Encouraged Utter Madness.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:36:42pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear:

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Thanks again McCain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:37:24pm
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Jay C  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:38:22pm

re: #97 SoundGuy 2016

Alien abductions have been decreasing.

Know we know why.

They’ve been dropping off, not picking up?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:38:36pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Their party will eventually flop because it in no is close to resembling what our country is.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:38:40pm

Help I’ve Fallen And I Can’t Get Up

manafort insists that trump campaign will get going soon

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Frankie Five Angels  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:38:49pm

The Bard of Wasilla urged the USA to get out of the UN. God will never forgive you for foistering this idiot upon us, John.

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:40:22pm

Well one thing to be said about Palin. She sure has a big mouth…Yoooooooouuge!

I hope it doesn’t end up really costing her and her family.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:40:29pm

re: #115 Frankie Five Angels

The Bard of Wasilla urged the USA to get out of the UN. God will never forgive you for foistering this idiot upon us, John.

I mean if he had started to distance himself from her hateful bullshit, maybe he’d have a chance but he continues to praise her and act like it was a wise choice. And I don’t care if it would cost him his seat. McCain gave this woman a bully pulpit and she has proven to be one of the most hateful presences in politics and McCain continues to act like there’s nothing wrong with her. Forget that she’s stupid, Palin is a hateful individual.

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:42:24pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kyle Alagood @rkylealagood
Rebuilding the #Republican party after @realDonaldTrump at #Politicon. Panel so white. No minorities welcome.
3:35 PM - 26 Jun 2016
Retweets likes

Are they really breaking down the Trump defeat already???

Wow, what an election.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:44:47pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

Are they really breaking down the Trump defeat already???

Wow, what an election.

I don’t think so. I think they’re just talking about rebranding in general but yeah it’s not a good sign if they’re talking about it that early. You know, the thing is it’s not going to get get better for them. More of the few sane people that remain in the party will leave and it will continue to remain an echo chamber. I mean I bet it shocked you to see Kasich toutted as a moderate. In 2020, I’m sure we’ll see someone like Cruz treated the same way.

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blueraven  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:44:57pm

Finally MSNBC picked up on Sacramento protests. Ugly!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:45:20pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

Are they really breaking down the Trump defeat already???

Wow, what an election.

Don’t worry, tRump will be President-in-Exile on all the Sunday shows for the next eight years at least.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:45:50pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

I don’t think so. I think they’re just talking about rebranding in general but yeah it’s not a good sign if they’re talking about it that early. You know, the thing is it’s not going to get get better for them. More of the few sane people that remain in the party will leave and it will continue to remain an echo chamber. I mean I bet it shocked you to see Kasich toutted as a moderate. In 2020, I’m sure we’ll see someone like Cruz treated the same way.

They have to decide between alienating Trump supporters by blocking his nomination and losing a lot of downticket races as a result of nominating him.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:47:48pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is it too early to start drinking GOTV?

Nope.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:48:23pm

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have to decide between alienating Trump supporters by blocking his nomination and losing a lot of downticket races as a result of nominating him.

You really think the base that would be angered by tRump being bypassed would still show up to vote GOP in all the down-ticket races? I think they’re screwed either way, but worse if they Dump Trump™.

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Kryptik  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:50:27pm

What the hell is going on in the Sacramento tweets? Who’s attacking who?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:51:06pm

re: #124 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You really think the base that would be angered by tRump being bypassed would still show up to vote GOP in all the down-ticket races? I think they’re screwed either way, but worse if they Dump Trump.

Basically, it’s like having to decide whether you want to be beaten with with clubs made of maple, or clubs made of oak.

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calochortus  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:52:15pm

re: #125 Kryptik

What the hell is going on in the Sacramento tweets? Who’s attacking who?

It is apparently unclear which group is doing the stabbing, but I’ve read reports blaming it on each side. Probably all will become clear by the evening news…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:52:48pm

re: #125 Kryptik

What the hell is going on in the Sacramento tweets? Who’s attacking who?

A Nazi group was rallying at the capitol building.
Counter protesters were waiting for them.

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MsJ  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:54:41pm

re: #120 blueraven

Finally MSNBC picked up on Sacramento protests. Ugly!

So what happened…? The city gave American nazis a permit, so police have to protect them. Counter prospers said Fuck That. And…violence. Is that it?

Skokie 2016?

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blueraven  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:54:45pm

re: #125 Kryptik

What the hell is going on in the Sacramento tweets? Who’s attacking who?

I dont know about the stabbings, but the counter protesters (anti-nazi) were attacking anyone who had a nazi shirt, sign, flag etc….

The counter protesters have faces covered with black bandannas…possible anarchists?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:55:00pm

re: #125 Kryptik

What the hell is going on in the Sacramento tweets? Who’s attacking who?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:56:05pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:56:58pm
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jeffreyw  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:57:40pm
“Of course, they will respect the popular vote. They would dare not ignore it!” is the cry.

People saying this have a good point, but they should also remember a ship which never did get called Boaty McBoatface.

via

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nines09  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:57:44pm

Show me the morgue shot of Donald Trump’s career, on a slab under refrigeration,, with a tag on the big toe. Along with the entire down ticket of the Cargo Cult. Ok. Just Witless Ballsack Cocksplat The First and Last. Then I dance.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:57:49pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:58:47pm

re: #124 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You really think the base that would be angered by tRump being bypassed would still show up to vote GOP in all the down-ticket races? I think they’re screwed either way, but worse if the Dump Trump.

They’d show up to vote against anyone that stood in The Donald’s™ way of becoming their candidate. There would be no hesitation.

That is what every Republican now faces. They either get voted out by their own or lose because their own didn’t vote.

The last month and a half has been one Trump mess after another and the base is still all in on Making America Great Again. Perfect example of not paying attention to anything considered establishment GOP.

Guys like McConnell know it. That’s why they softball any question about Trump being worthy, how he is doing, etc.

He’s got the whole damn Republican Party bent over and ready to be screwed. Not a damn thing anyone can do. Trump has taken the ‘grand’ out of the GOP!

Very funny and sad…all those great leaders and they can’t lead their party out of the darkness. Not a one of them deserve their political careers after this.

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Nyet  Jun 26, 2016 • 12:59:58pm

re: #136 SoundGuy 2016

You’re just in an experimentation phase, it will change.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:00:51pm

I’m convinced we need better history education.

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KingKenrod  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:00:52pm

re: #130 blueraven

I dont know about the stabbings, but the counter protesters (anti-nazi) were attacking anyone who had a nazi shirt, sign, flag etc….

The counter protesters have faces covered with black bandannas…possible anarchists?

I see black flags, and black/red flags like in logos for this group:

facebook.com

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:00:52pm

Jesus, that melee was savage. Someone, dazed, trying to stand up gets smashed in the head and crumples.

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gwangung  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:01:58pm

re: #138 Nyet

You’re just in an experimentation phase, it will change.

Not so sure about that….

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:02:07pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

I’m convinced we need better history education.

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blueraven  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:02:08pm

14 Sacred Words - A Declaration Of War [Lyric Video].

Fuck

14 Sacred Words - A Declaration Of War [Lyric Video]

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:03:17pm

re: #138 Nyet

You’re just in an experimentation phase, it will change.

I’m Shanghai Curious.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:03:37pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m actually more confused reading through that.

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Alephnaught  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:03:40pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

I want to see some polls conducted entirely after the Brexit vote. His performance in Scotland was simply horrifying, nothing but glib indifference to the harm done to many people’s life savings and glee that it might be good for him personally in terms of making Turnberry golf vacations more attractable / affordable.

There’s been three I know of, all support Independence. More details at Scot Goes Pop!.

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Nyet  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:05:00pm

re: #145 SoundGuy 2016

I’m Shanghai Curious.

Bambou Gainsbourg - Shanghai - Made In China ‘89

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:05:14pm

re: #143 ObserverArt

No doubt but I specified history because I think that will go a long way to creating less Neo-Nazis and Confederates.

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calochortus  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:05:31pm

Must go get some stuff done…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:08:00pm
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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:08:15pm

re: #148 Nyet

I’ve never felt a stronger urge to walk around in a satin robe and wooden sandals.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:08:22pm

re: #144 blueraven

Why do they always have to do the “voice of doom” singing style. It’s very off-putting. //

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:10:50pm

OFFS

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KingKenrod  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:11:12pm

This looks like a counter-protester who was stabbed.

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blueraven  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:12:09pm

re: #153 Barefoot Grin

Why do they always have to do the “voice of doom” singing style. It’s very off-putting. //

There is that, and the racist, anti-semitic rage…
Good grief these people are evil.

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Double Dumbass  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:12:19pm

re: #3 Jay C

Any idea as to why there was such a distinct shift in the polling numbers in mid-May? The Trump and Clinton numbers seemed fairly consistent until then

#BernieOrBust people realized Sanders wasn’t going to win so when polled they chose Trump over Hillary.

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KingKenrod  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:12:35pm

This guy’s twitter has lots of details. Looks like some Nazis are having a bad day.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:12:55pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And it’s only going to get worse.

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Alephnaught  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:13:41pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Yeah nevermind the fact that every part of Scotland voted to remain part of the EU, the fact that England did means Scotland didn’t. Derp.

… or that Scotland appears to be currently working on the “separate nations” thing.

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Double Dumbass  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:14:16pm

re: #7 Dr. Matt

Librul MSM in unison: But, but, but, the Orlando shooting is going to help Trump in the polls!

Librul MSM in unison: But, but, but, Brexit is going to help Trump in the polls!

Librul MSM in unison: But, but, but, _______ [insert next event] is going to help Trump in the polls!

Seems to me the MSM is trying really hard to emulate Faux News and are moving right, so calling them liberal isn’t accurate.

Unless of course you were being sarcastic.

Edit: Damn, you said May, my brain said March.
I hate getting old.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:15:28pm

Trump Campaign Calls Sacramento Stabbings “Disgusting”

waiting to find out if disgusting example of leftist violence or disgusting provocation of peaceful white power advocates

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:15:37pm

re: #161 b_sharp

Seems to me the MSM is trying really hard to emulate Faux News and are moving right, so calling them liberal isn’t accurate.

Unless of course you were being sarcastic.

“librul” is the sarcastic spelling.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:16:00pm

re: #161 b_sharp

Seems to me the MSM is trying really hard to emulate Faux News and are moving right, so calling them liberal isn’t accurate.

Unless of course you were being sarcastic.

“Liberal Media” is always sarcastic—because there’s no such thing.

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Double Dumbass  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:18:38pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

“librul” is the sarcastic spelling.

Geez.
My ability to focus is really compromised lately. I’m getting way too much wrong on a daily basis.

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blueraven  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:19:05pm

re: #155 KingKenrod

This looks like a counter-protester who was stabbed.

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ItsGoingDown dot org

itsgoingdown.org

On Sunday, June 26th, the Traditionalist Worker Party, the Golden State Skinheads, various white supremacist gangs, and Neo-Nazi groups across California and the US are holding an “Anti-Anti-Fascist” rally on the steps of the state capitol in Sacramento. They are rallying to specifically target anti-fascists who oppose them, and anyone that would stand up to racism and white supremacy

In response, organizations, faith based groups, networks of friends, labor unions, and anyone opposed to fascism, racism, and white supremacy is being called to shut down the rally and arrive at the capitol at 9 AM sharp. This is the biggest open and public white power rally on the West Coast in four years, since the Golden State Skinheads held a similar event only to be driven off the grounds by several hundred counter-demonstrators. Now in 2016, we must come together again at a time when the need to counter fascism and white supremacy has never been greater.

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BeachDem  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:19:19pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

It’s a legitimate concern but I think the party leadership will resist doing it. They know that even though most of the country finds Trump detestable, he remains popular with their base and their base already doesn’t think too much of them. They know that if they were to pull something like that, they’d get a lot of people to turn on their party and it would make Trump look even more sympathetic to their nutso base. I dunno. This is such a strange election.

And Reince will have to walk back many, many comments like:

and

and

and, well you get the idea…

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nines09  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:20:09pm

re: #158 KingKenrod

This guy’s twitter has lots of details. Looks like some Nazis are having a bad day.

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Dear Emily.
I have Nazis. How do I get rid of them?
Signed;
Perplexed.

Dear Perplexed;
Cinder blocks. Broken into pieces. Tossed and thrown. Belt level and above. From height if possible. Repeat as necessary.
Emily

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:21:03pm

re: #165 b_sharp

Geez.
My ability to focus is really compromised lately. I’m getting way too much wrong on a daily basis.

It’s a whole new language evolving out there in cyperspace.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:22:39pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:23:19pm

re: #168 nines09

Dear Emily.
I have Nazis. How do I get rid of them?
Signed;
Perplexed.

Dear Perplexed;
Cinder blocks. Broken into pieces. Tossed and thrown. Belt level and above. From height if possible. Repeat as necessary.
Emily

Woody Allen on how to handle Nazis

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SoundGuy 2016  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:29:00pm

Remember, Dems started the KKK right?

Well I went to Matthew Heimbach’s twitter page and checked his followers. Would you be surprised to know how many of his followers are Trump supporters?

twitter.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:30:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:31:35pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But EUexit is against elites. //

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:33:42pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The ad at the bottom of the page is already for a cricket bat!

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:38:21pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The MP from Twatford.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2016 • 1:39:21pm

re: #176 Barefoot Grin

The MP from Twatford.

Asshole on Thymes.

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majii  Jun 26, 2016 • 6:26:21pm

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

This lying *ss knows the GOP has no love for LGBTQ Americans. Just look at their behavior and their legislative record—- it’s all anti-LGBTQ. Even after the 49 deaths in Orlando, GOP pols in Congress and in some states were still working on anti-LGBTQ legislation. Richard Grenell can’t tell the truth because then he’d have to examine all of the animus the GOP has toward our LGBTQ citizens. It’s never-ending, and he knows it. The GOP deliberately cooked up the mess about transgendered persons using the public restroom they identify with. Until a few months ago, none of them had one word to say about this, but after McCrory and his buddies in the NC legislature passed HB2 as a punitive measure against Charlotte’s pro-gay ordinance, everyone in the GOP was suddenly “worried” about transgendered persons using public restrooms. If Grenell wants to talk about a political party “using” our LGBTQ citizens, he can start with HB2.

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cat-tikvah  Jun 26, 2016 • 8:15:05pm

re: #62 SoundGuy 2016

Yes, absolutely. I take nothing for granted in this election. Getting out the vote will be critical.


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