Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:
The Trump Suicide Vest: Active Shooter at Joint Base Andrews; Trey Gowdy’s Benghazi Report; Conspiracy Theorists Turn Against Gowdy; Trump May Have Solicited Money from Foreign Leaders; Jihadists For Trump; Hillary Leading in Key Swing States; Gun Store Raffling Off an AR15; Alex Jones is Worried About Trump and Goblins; and more.
Sometimes I come across the most random shit https://t.co/b7fvh8UUtD
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 1, 2016
I still enjoy watching the Canadian Parliament shout, “FOUR MORE YEARS” at President Obama after his speech.
re: #3 Stanley Sea
Kit update.
She just sits here & watches me.
She’s part of the worldwide Feline Overlord Cat-net. Check for implants.
Vice-President Joe Biden says Senator Sanders will endorse Secretary Clinton:
(Audio interview with Joe Biden, along with a text article)
“Oh, I’ve talked to Bernie, Bernie’s going to endorse her, this is going to work out,” Biden said in an interview with Rachel Martin, host of NPR’s Weekend Edition. “The Democrats are coalescing even before this occurs.”
Asked about it on MSNBC, Mr. Sanders he wasn’t quite ready yet, saying the two campaigns are still talking about college and health care issues. He repeated his pledge to do everything possible to defeat Donald Trump.
Uh, Senator, one of those things you could do is throw your support behind Mrs. Clinton, like Senator Warren did.
In the meantime, Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine) says she is open to endorsing Mrs. Clinton.
re: #3 Stanley Sea
Kit update.
She just sits here & watches me.
She’s just weighing the pluses and minuses of killing you. On the one hand, you provide weeks’ of sustenance…on the other, you both live in a giant cage and what if nobody comes to provide the next round of meals? Then there’s the cat-box…that thing doesn’t clean itself…
Trump: How many people even know what “xenophobe” means? https://t.co/9EUihH2Cg2 pic.twitter.com/5aYEffMtWN
— POLITICO Europe (@POLITICOEurope) June 30, 2016
Test: RT if you know what “xenophobe” means https://t.co/eF51jBr68F
— Andrew Stroehlein (@astroehlein) June 30, 2016
re: #7 darthstar
She’s just weighing the pluses and minuses of killing you. On the one hand, you provide weeks’ of sustenance…on the other, you both live in a giant cage and what if nobody comes to provide the next round of meals? Then there’s the cat-box…that thing doesn’t clean itself…
My cat does that (he is nearly one-quarter of my weight). You can almost see the gears whirling in his head: On the one hand, I could take him while he is sleeping. On the other hand, will I find another sucker to open the cat food bag after I do it.
re: #8 Kragar
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Loves to insult the American people’s intelligence by implying they’re as stupid as he is.
re: #6 Anymouse
And then Bernie said Bullshit on Chris Hays show this evening. We just need to get through the primary and let this settle out. When it comes to BS, I have to hear it out of his mouth directly or else it’s BS.
re: #7 darthstar
She’s just weighing the pluses and minuses of killing you. On the one hand, you provide weeks’ of sustenance…on the other, you both live in a giant cage and what if nobody comes to provide the next round of meals? Then there’s the cat-box…that thing doesn’t clean itself…
She acts like she is starving every morning at 5. She needs my ass.
@astroehlein
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) July 1, 2016
Does it mean you are afraid of warrior princesses?
re: #6 Anymouse
Vice-President Joe Biden says Senator Sanders will endorse Secretary Clinton:
(Audio interview with Joe Biden, along with a text article)
Asked about it on MSNBC, Mr. Sanders he wasn’t quite ready yet, saying the two campaigns are still talking about college and health care issues. He repeated his pledge to do everything possible to defeat Donald Trump.
Uh, Senator, one of those things you could do is throw your support behind Mrs. Clinton, like Senator Warren did.
In the meantime, Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine) says she is open to endorsing Mrs. Clinton.
I don’t understand what his deal is. He needs to support her now. He’s had plenty of time. California was nearly a month ago already. It would be really be pretty sad if Collins endorsed her before he did. I can’t understand for the life of me what Bernie’s motives are. He’s being petty and it’s definitely not going to win him any good will.
re: #11 Dave In Austin
And then Bernie said Bullshit on Chris Hays show this evening. We just need to get through the primary and let this settle out. When it comes to BS, I have to hear it out of his mouth directly or else it’s BS.
It could be here that Joe Biden is trying to lay an off-ramp for Senator Sanders here (while at the same time trying to paint him into a corner if he doesn’t take it). Mr. Biden is a very sharp politician.
There are certain things a Trump Veep must be willing to do to fit in with the boss. pic.twitter.com/04G5WWT8yd
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) July 1, 2016
re: #8 Kragar
I do recall Trump saying that he loves the uneducated. Maybe he’s referring to the the poorly/uneducated when he said this. In a way, I think he’s right if he’s talking about most of his supporters. I actually know right-wingers here in GA who wouldn’t know the meaning of the word, and who would look at you cockeyed if you used the word in a conversation with them.
Barack can u handle this?
Justin can u handle this?
Enrique can u handle this?
I don’t think they can handle this! pic.twitter.com/aNIlt0f6F7— Lucy Flawless (@everythingsjake) June 29, 2016
If you don’t get the reference, click here. :)
re: #17 majii
I do recall Trump saying that he loves the uneducated. Maybe he’s referring to the the poorly/uneducated when he said this. In a way, I think he’s right if he’s talking about most of his supporters. I actually know right-wingers here in GA who wouldn’t know the meaning of the word, and who would look at you cockeyed if you used the word in a conversation with them.
Would it be crazy of me to suggest that the Republican Party opposes more spending on higher education because they know more educated voters tend to avoid their party.
How on Earth did the military find those targets without Obama saying the words radical Islam? https://t.co/gEM5VBGUVx
— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) June 30, 2016
After Huffington Post took Mr. Trump out of their entertainment section when it became apparent the GOP voters really were going to select him as their candidate, they went with an under-banner on all their articles that the regular media would never do. (Other outlets gotta have a horse race, so they cannot call out Mr. Trump’s actual positions.)
Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
re: #17 majii
Related:
Jeet Heer:
There’s another factor at work here: The anti-intellectualism that has been a mainstay of the conservative movement for decades also makes its members easy marks. After all, if you are taught to believe that the reigning scientific consensuses on evolution and climate change are lies, then you will lack the elementary logical skills that will set your alarm bells ringing when you hear a flim-flam artist like Trump. The Republican “war on science” is also a war on the intellectual habits needed to detect lies.
newrepublic.com
If you’re in the USA, this movie should be showing up on your Netflix in about 15 minutes. https://t.co/mBCMkOJnBO
— Batman 66 Labels (@BatLabels) July 1, 2016
Phil Plait:
“…When we erode away at people’s ability to reason their way through a situation, then unreason will rule. And not just about scientific topics, but any topics. We see nonsense passed off as fact all the time by politicians, including attacks by Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, on the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, claims by Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, that there’s been a pause in global warming, the GOP attacks on Planned Parenthood, and more. People will still believe what these politicians say, long, long after the claims have been shown to be completely false.”
slate.com
BTW the DHS Secretary schooled Cruz today because Senator Booger was whining about the RI label yet again.
re: #20 HappyWarrior
I know that here in GA many of them want their kids to do better in life than they’ve done while at the same time standing in the way of them attaining a good education. They want them to go to college but oppose most efforts teachers make to challenge students. These tools raised such a ruckus that they persuaded the GOP majority in the state legislature to oppose Common Core and to pass a law that prohibits students’ test scores in GA from being compared to those of students in other states. They defeated CC by saying that President Obama created it which he didn’t. I don’t think some of them are aware that the things they say about their kids’ education, and the things they do in regard it, are out of alignment.
re: #24 jaunte
Back in February, a writer at Huffington Post UK noted that Donald Trump was making war on democracy itself.
In March, a writer at the main site noted he was making war on the I Amendment.
In the alternative reality at Breitbart, of course it is President Obama making war on democracy.
Lawsuit Rolling Stones v. Trump coming in 5, 4, 3, …
#ThrowbackThursday #Trump2016https://t.co/gFtspBViXe
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2016
re: #30 majii
I know that here in GA many of them want their kids to do better in life than they’ve done while at the same time standing in the way of them attaining a good education. They want them to go to college but oppose most efforts teachers make to challenge students. These tools raised such a ruckus that they persuaded the GOP majority in the state legislature to oppose Common Core and to pass a law that prohibits students’ test scores in GA from being compared to those of students in other states. They defeated CC by saying that President Obama created it which he didn’t. I don’t think some of them are aware that the things they say about their kids’ education, and the things they do in regard it, are out of alignment.
Well I was thinking more about the leadership than the rank and file. I think the rank and file for all their flaws want a lot of what we want but they have a very ignorant view on the role of government.
re: #32 gocart mozart
Lawsuit Rolling Stones v. Trump coming in 5, 4, 3, …
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That’s the song I want to hear when it becomes official he won’t be President and he’s cost the GOP a majority in Congrses.
re: #28 HappyWarrior
Cruz’s hearing was pure political theater intended to let right-wingers know that he’s willing to “go after” this president and bend him to his will. That’s all this little hearing was and HS Sec. Johnson let him know that he was not willing to play a role in his little play. Cruz could have called the WH and asked the president why he refuses to say “Islamic terrorists,” or he could have scheduled an appointment to talk with the president about it, but he chose to waste thousands of dollars of our tax money to put on a sham of a hearing. I never want to ever hear him expound again on how much he believes a government should be run in a fiscally responsible manner because he doesn’t practice what he preaches.
Tonight in dumb gun memes though. Using Brazil’s strict gun laws as “proof” that strict gun laws won’t work in the US while totally ignoring the strict gun laws in countries more like ours that don’t have the gun crime rate we do.
re: #32 gocart mozart
#ThrowbackThursday https://t.co/spviObvlBi @realDonaldTrump
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 1, 2016
re: #35 majii
Cruz’s hearing was pure political theater intended to let right-wingers know that he’s willing to “go after” this president and bend him to his will. That’s all this little hearing was and HS Sec. Johnson let him know that he was not willing to play a role in his little play. Cruz could have called the WH and asked the president why he refuses to say “Islamic terrorists,” or he could have scheduled an appointment to talk with the president about it, but he chose to waste thousands of dollars of our tax money to put on a sham of a hearing. I never want to ever hear him expound again on how much he believes a government should be run in a fiscally responsible manner because he doesn’t practice what he preaches.
I’m hoping that the Dems give him a tough opponent in 2018. Cruz is nothing but a reincarnated McCarthy without the excuse of alcoholism. And you’re right, he loses any claim of fiscal responsibility at all but then again frankly that’s how most Republicans are.
re: #32 gocart mozart
I’ve been watching presidential campaigns for more than 40 years, and I’ve never seen a presidential candidate’s wife wear a dress like the one Melania is wearing in this clip. Never. All of them, Democratic and Republican spouses, dressed in a manner fitting for a future presidential spouse.
re: #33 HappyWarrior
Although GOP leaders here don’t mention it, they send their kids to the best private schools, if they can afford it, but they vote for bills that weaken public schools and funnel more dollars into their rich buddies’ pockets. It just so happens that many of their rich buddies own companies, or own stock, in educational testing companies.
re: #41 majii
Although GOP leaders here don’t mention it, they send their kids to the best private schools, if they can afford it, but they vote for bills that weaken public schools and funnel more dollars into their rich buddies’ pockets. It just so happens that many of their rich buddies own companies, or own stock, in educational testing companies.
Right. It’s typical fuck you, I got mine politics that has become their party’s trademark.
re: #41 majii
Although GOP leaders here don’t mention it, they send their kids to the best private schools, if they can afford it, but they vote for bills that weaken public schools and funnel more dollars into their rich buddies’ pockets. It just so happens that many of their rich buddies own companies, or own stock, in educational testing companies.
I like your comments all the time, but you are really hitting my sweet spot tonight!
Study finds cats seem to have a rudimentary grasp of the laws of physics:
arstechnica.com
(With cat pictures)
re: #32 gocart mozart
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He thinks that video is so brilliant.
re: #44 Anymouse
And yet physics still finds cats to be a mystery.
re: #43 retired cynic
[Taking a bow, and saying, “Thank yew,” “Thank yew, very much.” “I tries.”] LOL.
re: #45 Stanley Sea
I read that Huckabee had to shell out $25,000 for using “Eye of the Tiger” when he went to Kentucky to kiss up to Kim Davis. Dude was whining about it. He tried to avoid paying it by calling the event a religious event, but he got caught when his campaign paperwork referred to the event as a “political event.” Ooops!
Today’s safe gun owner:
Oklahoma gun range owner insists that he safely fired his 105 mm howitzer that hit a home three miles away.
The shell hit a tree branch, bounced off the ground, then crashed through two walls and damaged a ceiling in the house. Two people were in the house and fortunately weren’t injured.
The gun range owner says the weapon was fired safely by professionals at a downward projection.
“It was not on a level plane, but on a downward trend, pointed downhill in the bottom of a valley,” said Mike Friend, Owner of Fast Machine Gun Shoot. “For that thing to rise and go far northwest of the range, it’s just unheard of.”
Both he and the homeowner describe it as an absurd occurrence.
“It’s a freak accident because as far as the safety end of everything, we drill every one of our shooters before it ever begins,” Friend said. “We have 30-45 minute drill.”
“It was definitely a freakish accident that happened,” Kelley [the homeowner] said.
The weapon owner has agreed to pay for all damages to the Kelley home.
Kelley says he is not against guns, but does think there should be a limit on the size and use of such weapons.
Not an accident. Negligence. Kewl! The II Amendment shall not be infringed, even for my artillery piece!
re: #49 Anymouse
Today’s safe gun owner:
Oklahoma gun range owner insists that he safely fired his 105 mm howitzer that hit a home three miles away.
The shell hit a tree branch, bounced off the ground, then crashed through two walls and damaged a ceiling in the house. Two people were in the house and fortunately weren’t injured.
Not an accident. Negligence. Kewl! The II Amendment shall not be infringed, even for my artillery piece!
Sick of these assholes.
re: #49 Anymouse
This incident reminds me of the one in which a chief of police shot his friend while hunting a few months ago. The c of p retired recently after it was revealed that he lied when he said his friend shot himself.
re: #50 HappyWarrior
“Sick of these assholes.”
You are not alone in feeling this way about these individuals.
re: #50 HappyWarrior
Not only that, apparently the fellow is claiming he fired the shell in the opposite direction, hence his claim of freak accident.
Big of him to offer to pay the damages to the family’s house.
Apparently there is going to be no control of just about any gun unless individuals start suing the crap out of people who shoot at them and try to get pretty much everything they own.
If someone hit my house with a howitzer, I’d be finding the best ambulance-chasing lawyer I could find.
re: #52 majii
“Sick of these assholes.”
You are not alone in feeling this way about these individuals.
They care more about their guns than they do people.
re: #53 Anymouse
Not only that, apparently the fellow is claiming he fired the shell in the opposite direction, hence his claim of freak accident.
Big of him to offer to pay the damages to the family’s house.
Apparently there is going to be no control of just about any gun unless individuals start suing the crap out of people who shoot at them and try to get pretty much everything they own.
If someone hit my house with a howitzer, I’d be finding the best ambulance-chasing lawyer I could find.
I hope they ruin his ass.
re: #53 Anymouse
I’m pretty sure that he s getting all sorts of calls right now.
LOL! This will change everything! Alert the media! pic.twitter.com/hbZgW6iJAs
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 1, 2016
re: #57 Charles Johnson
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Obama will have no third term now, this is ground breaking.
re: #57 Charles Johnson
That answers the question of a weekend post about that video!
re: #58 HappyWarrior
Obama will have no third term now, this is ground breaking.
This is good news for John McCain
re: #60 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
This is good news for John McCain
Nope. Still stuck with foisting Sarah Palin off on a unsuspecting electorate.
Federal judge blocks new Florida abortion law. https://t.co/FpJS37S8TR
— The Associated Press (@AP) July 1, 2016
APNewsBreak: Union to strike against Trump Taj Mahal casino. https://t.co/ItB0SqHWPL
— The Associated Press (@AP) July 1, 2016
Obama can just kiss that re-election goodbye now. Good work, @wesearchr! You saved America!
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 1, 2016
re: #51 majii
This incident reminds me of the one in which a chief of police shot his friend while hunting a few months ago. The c of p retired recently after it was revealed that he lied when he said his friend shot himself.
That would be the Portland, Ore. chief of police.
It was reported on in different ways:
(claim of trial by media)
(reporting just the facts of the case)
The investigating office is the Harney County Sheriff’s office (Sheriff Dave Ward, who had to put up with the Talibanjo at Mahleur Wildlife Refuge - he must be getting tired of gun nuts).
re: #62 FormerDirtDart
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I am glad to see there’s backlash from the judiciary to these laws.
Trump sparring with George Miller over insufficiently Indian-looking tribes circa 1993 is something else… https://t.co/GvbcI397VS
— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) July 1, 2016
re: #66 HappyWarrior
I am glad to see there’s backlash from the judiciary to these laws.
What’s odd is that the judge didn’t block the laws admitting privileges requirement
re: #66 HappyWarrior
I am glad to see there’s backlash from the judiciary to these laws.
Well, the courts now have the Supreme Court ruling striking down Texas’s HB-2 to rely on.
However, in that case, Dan Patrick has already said in the next legislative session in Texas they will try to resurrect the law and get around the Supreme Court’s rationale for striking it down.
The forced-birth crowd will never stop, as long as that issue gets them votes. They will only stop when they are forced to face an electorate that will universally punish politicians at the polls who drag abortion up as an issue. I don’t see that happening soon.
My own state is surrounded by states on all sides (except Colorado) that have enacted all sorts of ridiculous abortion laws (including but not exclusively TRAP laws). We do seem to have a bit of a saner breed of conservative Republicans here, for the most part.
re: #70 Anymouse
Well, the courts now have the Supreme Court ruling striking down Texas’s HB-2 to rely on.
However, in that case, Dan Patrick has already said in the next legislative session in Texas they will try to resurrect the law and get around the Supreme Court’s rationale for striking it down.
The forced-birth crowd will never stop, as long as that issue gets them votes. They will only stop when they are forced to face an electorate that will universally punish politicians at the polls who drag abortion up as an issue. I don’t see that happening soon.
My own state is surrounded by states on all sides (except Colorado) that have enacted all sorts of ridiculous abortion laws (including but not exclusively TRAP laws). We do seem to have a bit of a saner breed of conservative Republicans here, for the most part.
True, teh Supreme Court ruling the other day made it a lot easier to throw these out.
re: #58 HappyWarrior
Correct, but it won’t stop the Rage Furby. The guy is like a starving dog trying to get full on a bone with tiny pieces of meat on it. He’s determined there’s a full meal for him on that bone. Steve Benen at the Maddow Blog had a post today that mentioned some right-wingers are targeting Gowdy because they expected him to “connect the dots” in a way that would find HRC guilty of the deaths of our four State Dept. personnel at Benghazi. SB reported that after Gowdy released the report, a group of GOPers met to vent, and they did not hold back about how disappointed they are that Gowdy found nothing to use against HRC. After I read his post, I started thinking about how sad Gowdy looked in the presser, and how he snapped at the reporter who mentioned that the “Hillary Lied, People Died” bumper-sticker was a lie and told the journalist to “read the report.” Dude already knew he’d let the GOP rank and file down. I’m keeping an eye on Gowdy to see if any right-wing special interest group decides to primary him. If he’d had the smallest bit of commonsense, he would have refused to conduct the investigation and would have pointed out that seven other reports had reached the same conclusions. He couldn’t do this because he wanted to play the role of vicious attack dog and instead of looking strong, he looked thoroughly whipped by facts yesterday. He’s appeared on crime shows on TV from the time he was a prosecutor in SC, but he forgot that the things he got away with there, he can’t duplicate them at a national level. Of course, I have always, and still think, he’s a lying, black-hearted, self-serving, government teat-sucking, fake Christian shyster and con man extraordinaire. There’s no doubt in my mind that Rage Furby has many of the same qualities that Gowdy has.
re: #64 Charles Johnson
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How can they publish shit they don’t own the copyright to? It doesn’t matter if their draft is legit or fake, it’s ostensibly going to mostly contain copyrighted passages. Obama’s publishers won’t even have to sue them to take it down, just file DMCA notices with their internet providers.
So dumb.
re: #73 goddamnedfrank
How can they publish shit they don’t own the copyright to? It doesn’t matter if their draft is legit or fake, it’s ostensibly going to mostly contain copyrighted passages. Obama’s publishers won’t even have to sue them to take it down, just file DMCA notices with their internet providers.
So dumb.
I tweeted Random House to alert them of WeSearchr’s intent. Crown was the hardcover imprint, but it’s a division of Random House, and the copyright holder is Obama.
re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Don’t you know that Rage Furby thinks laws are for other people? He exhibits the same disregard for the rule of law that I’ve seen Trump and others on the right demonstrate. RF do whatever he wants to do until a court tells him he can’t do it.
re: #75 majii
Don’t you know that Rage Furby thinks laws are for other people? He exhibits the same disregard for the rule of law that I’ve seen Trump and others on the right demonstrate. RF do whatever he wants to do until a court tells him he can’t do it.
I’m sure their plan is to parlay a takedown / lawsuit into “proof” that they had the real deal, and that the inferences they drew from it were legit. It’s all part of continuing the grift.
re: #75 majii
Don’t you know that Rage Furby thinks laws are for other people? He exhibits the same disregard for the rule of law that I’ve seen Trump and others on the right demonstrate. RF do whatever he wants to do until a court tells him he can’t do it.
He shares that disregard for the law with James O’Keefe and David Daleiden. All three think they can circumvent the legal system because they’re working for a higher purpose, or something.
NOW: @Space_Station crew undocks Russian cargo ship for short test flight. Watch on NASA TV: https://t.co/KX5g7zfYQe pic.twitter.com/d62nIF9YT6
— NASA (@NASA) July 1, 2016
re: #64 Charles Johnson
LOL! I checked out wesearchr for the first time in response to this. I laughed hard. Really hard. My favorite bit is the oddly named “Wildcard” page. If you are overwhelmed by the number of “bounties” (there are 28 by my count), you can just donate directly. Ain’t that downright friendly! My folk only go to 20, in sofar as numberin goes.
Also the graphic on that page is priceless. Not in the “it can’t be measured by wealth” way, more of the “by definition ‘price’ implies a value more than 0” kind of way.
Sorry nutbag, you ride a horse into NYC, block traffic, the ASPCA is going to come calling…
80-year-old cowboy who tied up traffic on a New York bridge abused his 2 horses, police say. https://t.co/kqP5pv3rpWhttps://t.co/oFh1caOxWv
— ABC News (@ABC) July 1, 2016
re: #57 Charles Johnson
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Suckers paid Chuck to do something he was going to do anyway.
re: #79 Jason Munro
LOL! I checked out wesearchr for the first time in response to this. I laughed hard. Really hard. My favorite bit is the oddly named “Wildcard” page. If you are overwhelmed by the number of “bounties” (there are 28 by my count), you can just donate directly. Ain’t that downright friendly! My folk only go to 20, in sofar as numberin goes.
Also the graphic on that page is priceless. Not in the “it can’t be measured by wealth” way, more of the “by definition ‘price’ implies a value more than 0” kind of way.
The whole premise is daft, and the execution of it more than a little shady. These people are entrusting their credit card information with these two dudes, and assuming the donations are actually being used as they say they are.
There are no refunds, BTW. If a particular project is not funded by the deadline, donations to that project get put into the general pool.
Also, despite what Chuck has stated in interviews and on his blog, WeSearchr is not promising to shield anyone from the law. If the cops or the sheriff come a-knocking, WeSearchr will give up names to protect their own skins.
Of course I am a humble guy. I’m THE BEST humble lord you’ll ever meet. You should see how modest my glorious kingdom is. Top notch.
— CheetoJesus (@iamcheetojesus) June 30, 2016
So this guy is crashing here now. Says he’s good for the rent, but I harbor my suspicions. #dog #boxer pic.twitter.com/GdAG9cWsG6
— mattand (@mattand) June 28, 2016
Dust bunny hipster goatee #boxer #dog #hipster pic.twitter.com/NG18llwVmW
— mattand (@mattand) July 1, 2016
Not since the opening of Al Capone’s vault… @Green_Footballs
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 1, 2016
re: #82 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The whole premise is daft, and the execution of it more than a little shady. These people are entrusting their credit card information with these two dudes, and assuming the donations are actually being used as they say they are.
There are no refunds, BTW. If a particular project is not funded by the deadline, donations to that project get put into the general pool.
Also, despite what Chuck has stated in interviews and on his blog, WeSearchr is not promising to shield anyone from the law. If the cops or the sheriff come a-knocking, WeSearchr will give up names to protect their own skins.
I had a general idea of the grift from reading LGF, but thanks for the succinct summary. It’s ludicrous. It’s basically just a list of people and organizations Chuck wants to exact his imaginary revenge plans on. I think I will copy this clever business model. My first bounty will be “Find out who the kids walking on my lawn are, so we can end this injustice!”. I think the minimum will be 10K.
re: #88 Jason Munro
I had a general idea of the grift from reading LGF, but thanks for the succinct summary. It’s ludicrous. It’s basically just a list of people and organizations Chuck wants to exact his imaginary revenge plans on. I think I will copy this clever business model. My first bounty will be “Find out who the kids walking on my lawn are, so we can end this injustice!”. I think the minimum will be 10K.
The funniest one was a project to obtain Game of Thrones season 6 spoilers, as if anyone involved in the production of GoT would be willing to reveal any plot points. And now the whole issue is moot.
re: #86 majii
Being super cute has its rewards.
LOL, he’s been here 4 days and he’s already working it to great advantage.
re: #90 Mattand
You work with what you have and I suspect he knows how cute he is and works that angle to the max. I have a chihuahua mix who is a rescue, and he tries to boss me around. I keep telling him that he needs to get a job. He’s not listening because he’s too busy thinking of new ways he can use his cuteness to get the things he wants. For some reason, the air conditioner on my Toyota stopped blowing cold air last week, and I took it to the dealership to be repaired. I told Winston [my dog] that I’d take him for a a ride when I returned home with the car today, and darn it, he was waiting for that ride. I had to take him because wasn’t going to let me forget I’d promised it to him.
re: #89 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The funniest one was a project to obtain Game of Thrones season 6 spoilers, as if anyone involved in the production of GoT would be willing to reveal any plot points. And now the whole issue is moot.
I missed that! (I read enough on row 1 that I simply counted after that). Reality, satire, match! To wit, I can come up with WAY more than 28 bounties worth at least 10K. Off the top of my head, here are a few:
“Someone is stealing my lunch in the break-room. Lets make refrigeration great again!”
“Anything that might be currently popular! You know you want to know that thing!”
“Person X at company Y is bad, find out the bad thing they did”
“Why can’t redheads just wash that grey right out their hair? Expose the conspiracy!”
…
The UK is ready to be the 51st state…
Does anyone else feel like everyone’s just moved on from an MP being murdered on the street by a Nazi terrorist?
— Bilal Zafar (@Zafarcakes) June 25, 2016
A year later, and still fighting
Federal judge blocks Miss. law limiting gay marriage moments before it was to take effect. https://t.co/yBUIifJZ3o pic.twitter.com/RcPwEVXvzN
— ABC News (@ABC) July 1, 2016
re: #92 Jason Munro
I missed that! (I read enough on row 1 that I simply counted after that). Reality, satire, match! To wit, I can come up with WAY more than 28 bounties worth at least 10K. Off the top of my head, here are a few:
“Someone is stealing my lunch in the break-room. Lets make refrigeration great again!”
“Anything that might be currently popular! You know you want to know that thing!”
“Person X at company Y is bad, find out the bad thing they did”
“Why can’t redheads just wash that grey right out their hair? Expose the conspiracy!”
…
“Do 4 out of 5 dentists really recommend chewing gum for patients who chew gum? Let’s find out!”
Really, if Chuck were serious about killing the floor shitting rumors forever (maybe) he’d propose a bounty for that. But I think he knows how that would turn out, given how unliked he was at college.
re: #95 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
“Someone has my Eggo. L’eggo!”
re: #94 FormerDirtDart
If they spend tax money on pointless lawsuits, they don’t have to spend it on things like education, infrastructure, or social services.
Looking at all the things conservatives have challenged the courts with, I really believe that’s the issue (see also forty years of abortion cases).
re: #94 FormerDirtDart
I think the republicans who are focused on what happens in others’ sex lives are some of the nosiest people in the world. They’re some strange persons. I spend zero time wondering what goes on in others’ bedrooms in the privacy of their homes, and even if they tried to tell me about it, I wouldn’t listen because that kind of stuff doesn’t interest me. I’m too busy taking care of my own business to stick my nose in others’ business. I’m hoping that one day before I leave this world, I’ll gain some insight into why they tend to focus on others’ sex lives so much, and why they think that although women can give birth to kids and raise them to be successful adults, we still need them to enact laws to govern what we can/cannot do with our bodies. If a GOP politician were my son/daughter and was obsessed with passing laws related to who can have sex with whom, I’d probably seriously consider disinheriting him/her. Some Americans’ lives would be much better if they learned one lesson—-to mind their own d*mn business.
Seems apropos.
— Persian Rose (@PersianRose1) July 1, 2016
Well, off to give my last final exam of the term. BBL
re: #100 goddamnedfrank
Seems apropos.
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Marine veteran sentenced to twenty-two months in prison (he has served ten during the investigation and trial, so twelve more) for plotting with others to attack the military.
Court records showed a controversial military training exercise in Texas and other southwestern states may have been fueling their violent ideas.
The exercise is called Jade Helm, a two-month long special operations training exercise with members of U.S. Army Special Operations Command and service members from the military’s four branches, according to the U.S. Army.
At his sentencing hearing Thursday, Litteral’s attorney painted his client as a honorable servant. Litteral is a Marine who received a Bronze Star after leading two machine gun groups during the first Gulf War. However, he now suffers from post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) as a result of his time in the military, his attorney said.
Litteral’s attorney J.P. Davis successfully argued his client qualified for a lesser sentence because he served the military. Judge Whitney, a military man himself, said the military experience worked both ways.
“You truly are an American hero,” Whitney said. “But just because you’re an American hero doesn’t mean you’re excused from the laws of the land.”
Let’s see: The military I served in did not include in its definition of “hero” the word “traitor.” My military oath did not, either. There is more at the link above, including video.
re: #3 Stanley Sea
Kit update.
She just sits here & watches me.
Aw, she cute. But she’s plotting to murder you.
Seen somewhere. They think the election and the Presidency is a joke.
i bet the ladies love him and men want to be him.
Gaa, that shirt is awful. (Even without Trump.)
While it doesn’t violate the US Flag Code (it is not made from an actual flag), it certainly violates taste.
re: #106 Ming5000
What happened to Trump’s big gut? He has one in every pic I’ve seen of him. Whoever did the artwork made him look fitter than he actually appears to me in real life.
The shirt does seem to contain his lower belly meat pretty well.
That shirt has to be a joke. Notice Trump has a wrestling belt? Looks like it.
re: #111 SoundGuy 2016
That shirt has to be a joke. Notice Trump has a wrestling belt? Looks like it.
It is strange how so much of the right-o-sphere seems to be a joke. In old movies they had conservative politicians and school principals who were tight asses and caricatures of total assholes (asswholes).
Now reality is hard to distinguish from a joke.
re: #106 Ming5000
Seen somewhere. They think the election and the Presidency is a joke.
No, they don’t. They’re deadly serious about their thoughts and intentions. They truly believe deep down in their hearts that MURKA is this special place chosen by God that also blows the ever living shit out of bad guys and evil in general.
In the flood of Drumpfskind revelations, I overlooked this one:
DONALD TRUMP REPORTEDLY EAVESDROPPED ON PRIVATE PHONE CONVERSATIONS AT MAR-A-LAGO
Did anyone hear anything more about the chair incident last nite?
re: #117 Dave In Austin
Did anyone hear anything more about the chair incident last nite?
I’ve been watching all day and, no.
re: #118 freetoken
Free, Cheetodust supposedly pitched a chair off a balcony at Maralago in a fit of anger last nite.
re: #120 Dave In Austin
Oh… my…
When I googled “chair incident” that didn’t come up, though in past 24 hours some inmate in OK threw a chair at a guard… and in New Bedford some teacher was cleared in a chair throwing incident… and there are others.
Maybe chair throwing is becoming an “in” thing?
re: #121 freetoken
Or the nut is starting to crack……
Mississippi representative states he is sorry for telling a woman seeking to navigate the Medicaid system to obtain Type 1 diabetes medication and supplies essentially to “get off her taker ass and use your own money.” The child’s supplies run to about $2,500 a month.
According to Wonkette, his last two bills both died in committee. One was to protect Confederate memorabilia, the other a proclamation to praise a winner of “American Idol.”
re: #126 Dave In Austin
The article notes his Facebook page has disappeared. I wonder why that is.
He “serves” (if that is the right word) on the Insurance committee and the Health and Human Services committee.
I guess this is another example of compassionate conservatism.
Cause he’s a coward.
Wife and I have been looking at vac and retirement option on the Gulf Coast. Miss. is awesome. These crackers drive me crazy. Texas is bad enough.
re: #128 Dave In Austin
Cause he’s a coward.
Wife and I have been looking at vac and retirement option on the Gulf Coast. Miss. is awesome. These crackers drive me crazy. Texas is bad enough.
How about western Nebraska. Maybe even my village. You could vote for me! We have lots of conservatives here, and sandhills (no ocean, sorry), but no wingnuts trying to insert government into your bedroom or other such nonsense.
re: #129 Anymouse
Been there. Used to drive a semi in my younger days. I fish. As much as I can. The gulf offers everything I love. Big redfish and specs. Largemouth bass inland. Pine trees, coastal oaks, palms, white sand and blue salt water…….
re: #130 Dave In Austin
Been there. Used to drive a semi in my younger days. I fish. As much as I can. The gulf offers everything I love. Big redfish and specs. Largemouth bass inland. Pine trees, coastal oaks, palms, white sand and blue salt water…….
I was in the Navy. I got as far away from the ocean as I could, and having been stationed in Dixie for most of my career, I wanted out of there, too.
Next week I’ll be even further from Dixie … I’ll be in Canada, on Hudson Bay waiting out the derpfest that will be the GOP Convention (my wife planned our trip to be out of the country for that).
These conventions are going to be like nothing since the 60’s. I can only hope no one gets hurt.
re: #134 Dave In Austin
These conventions are going to be like nothing since the 60’s. I can only hope no one gets hurt.
Well, that would be a reason so many GOP luminaries are staying away from the convention (even the state governor of Ohio): They are important people and can’t be hurt.
As for everyone else, well, compassionate conservatism.
As far as the Democratic convention, I don’t really see that as much of a problem. Folk might be loud, but are unlikely to be armed.
Your awful news of the day (it is still early, so this might be eclipsed):
A good Samaritan could not save a Las Vegas woman screaming for help as her gun-wielding estranged husband chased her from their home to two drug store parking lots in a chaotic murder-suicide that left a family of five dead, authorities said Thursday.
The man gunned down his wife outside a business and killed their children, ages 9 to 15, at their apartment before shooting himself at the residence, police said. Homicide detectives are investigating what drove him to kill his family.
“It’s really hard to understand how this could happen, how somebody could do that to children,” police Lt. Dan McGrath said.
re: #136 Timothy Watson
And despite all the deflection, the prevaricating, the hand-wringing, the one common feature in all of these is guns.
Rep. Steve King went off on a tear yesterday repeating Donald Trump’s (and for a long time the NRA’s) talking point that if all the people in the Orlando nightclub had been armed, the mass murder there would not have taken place. If it were not a gun-free zone it would not have taken place.
Presumably if this whole family had been armed this would not have taken place, either.
It is amazing that the House, Senate, and NRA headquarters are all gun-free zones and they have not been the victims of mass murders and violence. It is almost as if they want us to live in some sort of Somalia-like society while they have the benefits of armed security and police.
As for this mass murder in Las Vegas, just more grist to spin up conservative fears they need even more guns with fewer regulations.
One gun loophole that doesn’t get mentioned:
When Veronica Lewis walked into a Vermont Target Sports last week and asked to shoot a gun, she wasn’t required to pass a background check. If she had been, the check would have turned up the native New Yorker’s lengthy criminal rap sheet and a state order that explicitly prohibits her from possessing firearms. But she wasn’t, and after finishing a gun safety course, Lewis opened fire on instructor Darryl Montague, critically wounding him, before making off with the .22-caliber handgun.thetrace.org , July 2015.
The quintessential GOP nightmare: an armed transgender person standing at the stall next to you in the nightclub restroom
Heh, there’s something you rarely hear. CHP is chasing a U-Haul van at 105 MPH….
re: #138 Single-handed sailor
Heh, there’s something you rarely hear. CHP is chasing a U-Haul van at 105 MPH….
They don’t want to simply move … they want to move first.
re: #138 Single-handed sailor
Heh, there’s something you rarely hear. CHP is chasing a U-Haul van at 105 MPH….
I’m impressed a U-Haul van can even go 105. I thought they all had speed governors to prevent that kind of silliness.
re: #140 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I’m impressed a U-Haul van can even go 105. I thought they all had speed governors to prevent that kind of silliness.
Actually, if you look up CHP U-haul pursuit, you will find a number of different articles. It would seem that U-Haul drivers in California have been trying to outrun the Highway Patrol for some time.
laist.com
fox5sandiego.com
articles.latimes.com
losangeles.cbslocal.com
Apparently, U-Haul racing against CHP is a sporting event in California.
I’ve really struggled with how to write about the results of two polls on race released this week. So, let me just toss out the two findings that have induced this paralysis.According to the Reuters-Ipsos poll, “Supporters of U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump are more likely to describe African Americans as ‘criminal,’ ‘unintelligent,’ ‘lazy’ and ‘violent’ than voters who backed some Republican rivals in the primaries or who support Democratic contender Hillary Clinton.”
According to the Pew Research Center’s survey on race, “About six-in-ten (59%) white Republicans say too much attention is paid to race and racial issues these days, while only 21% of Democrats agree.”
That folks harbor anti-black views is nothing new. An Associated Press poll from 2012 showed that negative views of African Americans jumped from 48 percent in 2008 to 51 percent in 2012. And that number jumped to 56 percent when implicit racial attitudes were factored in. But the Reuters-Ipsos poll still shocks the conscience.
What is it about @uhaul trucks?!
— CHP Southern Div. (@CHPsouthern) 25 April 2013
re: #8 Kragar
Trump: How many people even know what “xenophobe” means?
DT banks on the fact that his followers are too media ADD to ever question or follow up on his claims, so he can safely say whatever comes to mind without consequences.
Illinois finally passes a budget:
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Illinois lawmakers broke a historic year-long budget impasse on Thursday, approving legislation to complete the current fiscal year, fund fiscal 2017 through December, and ensure schools will open in the fall.
A political stalemate between Republican Governor Bruce Rauner and Democrats who control the legislature had left Illinois as the only U.S. state without a full budget for fiscal 2016, which ends at midnight.
The budget mess in Illinois was so bad the state lottery commission ran out of money to pay out the prizes in the Lotto. (My mother informed me of that charming little issue; lotto retailers and the state lottery commission were restricted on the size of prizes they could redeem.)
Happy birthday, Olivia de Havilland!
Screen legend Olivia de Havilland celebrates her 100th birthday on July 1
riday marks quite the milestone for Olivia de Havilland. The famed “Gone with the Wind” star — and the last living member of its sprawling cast — will turn 100 years old.
De Havilland was born July 1, 1916 in Tokyo to British parents. The family moved to California three years later, and she made her screen debut in 1935 in Max Reinhardt’s production of “A Midsummer Night’s Dream.” Four years later, she would appear as Melanie Hamilton Wilkes alongside Vivien Leigh, Clark Gable and Hattie McDaniel in “Gone with the Wind.” Her other notable screen roles included “The Adventures of Robin Hood,” “Hold Back the Dawn,” “The Heiress,” “The Snake Pit” and “To Each his Own.”
De Havilland and sister Joan Fontaine are the only pair of siblings to have won Academy Awards in a lead acting category. A fierce rivalry between de Havilland and Fontaine led to a decades-long estrangement.
De Havilland retired from acting in 1988.
Years ago, when I moved from Oregon to Laramie Wyoming, I used the biggest U-Haul truck available. In western Wyoming there are several areas where there are multi-mile downhill runs. That truck would not go over 55 MPH even in neutral. I was also towing a pick-up and even that extra weight would not boost the speed.
Virginia wingnut is the sad:
State Sen. Bryce Reeves, R—Spotsylvania County, is out to prove that Gov. Terry McAuliffe was acting on a request from Hillary Clinton’s campaign when he restored voting rights to more than 200,000 former felons.
But the senator’s Freedom of Information Act request June 17 for any communication on the topic between the two camps turned up no smoking gun.
McAuliffe, a Democrat, is close friends with the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.
Carlos Hopkins, counsel to the governor, responded to Reeves last Wednesday, writing that there are no records indicating that Clinton officials requested the restoration of rights.
Today is also a much more somber anniversary, the worst day in the history of the British Army.
First Day on the Somme, aka Battle of Albert.
After a massive 5 day artillery bombardment, 13 British divisions, nearly 200,000 men, launched a massive headlong assault on German positions on a front of just 14 miles straddling the River Somme. French forces launched supporting attacks on the south. Results were ghastly, nearly unbelievable to modern eyes; 57,470 British casualties in a single day, of whom 19,240 were killed. The Germans were forced back in many areas, but their line held and overall gains were insignificant. Several truces were called during the battle to recover the wounded, and the effort to recover the dead continues to the present day, with a few bones found and identified by DNA testing every month.
re: #149 Shiplord Kirel
Today is also a much more somber anniversary, the worst day in the history of the British Army.
Even after the American Civil War taught generals that sending out shoulder-to-shoulder lines of infantry was sheer murder against (muzzle loading) rifled muskets, they tried the same tactics against machine guns and bolt-action rifles…
The onion in History: 600,000 KILLED IN FOUR-INCH ADVANCE ON WESTERN FRONT
re: #131 Anymouse
I was in the Navy. I got as far away from the ocean as I could, and having been stationed in Dixie for most of my career, I wanted out of there, too.
Bayou La Batre (Forrest Gump’s base). It’s recovered largely from Katrina, but has lost the opportunity to become a bullshit yuppie development.
re: #120 Dave In Austin
Free, Cheetodust supposedly pitched a chair off a balcony at Maralago in a fit of anger last nite.
Are we sure Bobby Knight isn’t visiting?
re: #149 Shiplord Kirel
Today is also a much more somber anniversary, the worst day in the history of the British Army.
How JRR Tolkien Found Mordor on the Western Front
IN the summer of 1916, a young Oxford academic embarked for France as a second lieutenant in the British Expeditionary Force. The Great War, as World War I was known, was only half-done, but already its industrial carnage had no parallel in European history.
re: #149 Shiplord Kirel
Today is also a much more somber anniversary, the worst day in the history of the British Army.
First Day on the Somme, aka Battle of Albert.
After a massive 5 day artillery bombardment, 13 British divisions, nearly 200,000 men, launched a massive headlong assault on German positions on a front of just 14 miles straddling the River Somme. French forces launched supporting attacks on the south. Results were ghastly, nearly unbelievable to modern eyes; 57,470 British casualties in a single day, of whom 19,240 were killed. The Germans were forced back in many areas, but their line held and overall gains were insignificant. Several truces were called during the battle to recover the wounded, and the effort to recover the dead continues to the present day, with a few bones found and identified by DNA testing every month.
No fan of George Will, but he had an interesting write-up about the battle this week:
washingtonpost.com
I remember watching The First World War and reading the book it was based on, and they talked about how unreliable the British artillery was and how bad their tactics and strategy were.
Translation: Nobody wants to be publicly associated with this clown.
JUST IN: Trump: GOP asked me to speak every night at convention https://t.co/I75rx8d9Nm pic.twitter.com/nyi9n0GzQO
— The Hill (@thehill) July 1, 2016
re: #149 Shiplord Kirel
Today is also a much more somber anniversary, the worst day in the history of the British Army.
First Day on the Somme, aka Battle of Albert.
Always makes me think of this.
Lt. J.R.R. Tolkien’s service revolver as it currently sits in the Imperial War Museum.
re: #80 FormerDirtDart
Sorry nutbag, you ride a horse into NYC, block traffic, the ASPCA is going to come calling…
Save a horse, ride a cowboy!
Giggity
Ah, Charles, did you know about this article in the Boston Globe last year?
I have always suspected that Malik [Obama] fanned the flames of birthers on purpose, out of jealousy.
Finally, I’ve got proof. A few months ago, Malik gave an interview over Skype to Joel Gilbert, the maker of a 2012 Obama-bashing Swift Boat-style film. Malik complained that the president turned his back on his family, and failed to cough up $20,000 for Aunt Zeituni’s funeral — the opposite of what he’d said in the past.
“He’s not an honest man,” Malik said.
Then it got even crazier: Malik speculated that Obama’s real father is actually a communist named Frank Marshall Davis, indulging the wild theory that Gilbert had put forth in his “documentary” Dreams of My Real Father.
As goddamnedfrank pointed out yesterday (or the day before?), Joel Gilbert was the original registered owner of gotnewsdotcom, and he later sold it to the Rage Furby, who is convinced that Davis is Barack Obama’s real dad. Furthermore, RF claims he bought the first draft of Obama’s book from Malik Obama.
The Globe article suggests Malik could really have sold the draft — he has previously sold letters from Barack for $15,000 — to make some quick cash. It also suggests all those annotations Chuck is wondering about could be Malik’s comments.
Alternatively, someone has played Chuck and his so-called private eye for suckers and sold them a draft that Malik Obama never saw or owned.
Good morning Lizards. I see Republicans are freaking out over Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton “meeting”.
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s supposed to be a glorious weekend here, with nice temps and sunny skies. We just have to get through today, with the chance of strong/severe t-storms.
It’s almost an allegory for the current political situation. We’ve got to get thru the shitstorm that is the election season, and there’ll be hope for a better day on the other side. The difference is that we can affect the outcomes here.
We have to get out the vote. We have to do our part - we have to vote in all elections (and make sure that we’re registered to vote and have all our paperwork necessary per state laws that have made it harder to vote across the nation thanks to voter ID measures).
On top of yesterday’s Trump inanities, we get word that Trump’s apparently vetting both Newt and Christie for the VP slot, and a few others are in the mix, including Mike Pence. A few observers are saying that Trump should pick Cruz or Rubio to balance the ticket, but what kind of balance is that? This is the most extreme GOP we’ve ever witnessed.
This is a party that abhors facts and logic.
Trump won the primaries because he appealed to the bigot brigade that forms the base of the party - a group that revels in ignorant fear (and which the GOP dutifully feeds them on a daily base).
That’s why the GOP fixates on stuff like “Obama refuses to use words Radical Islam to fight IS” as though it makes any difference when Obama authorizes DoD raids on IS strongholds (like the attack that apparently killed 250 IS in Iraq this week).
But it’s not like Cruz or Rubio are any better. They differ on style, not substance. Cruz was willing to engage in war crimes with carpet bombing to fight IS (Trump said nuke’ em). Never mind that we’d be hitting countries we’re friendly with like Jordan or Turkey or enable fallout on allies like Israel (and the list of countries susceptible to fallout from a nuke exchange in the ME is basically all of them).
Economic policy isn’t any better.
Trump’s tax plan would add $10T + to the debt. Only way around that is to slash the federal budget by an equal amount (out of a $4T budget) or make fanciful assumptions about growth. The reality is that this would massively add to debt and slash the safety net - the precise situation of burden shifting that the GOP wants: shift burdens from rich to everyone else, while rich get even richer.
Newt and Christie are both economic misfits - Newt still owes millions for his failed 2012 run, and Christie’s state budget is a mess, and faces the need to hike taxes or watch the state’s transportation infrastructure fund collapse. But even with NJ, Christie is looking to shift burdens away from the rich - the GOP wanted an estate tax repeal to offset the gas tax, while state Democrats are pushing for a sales tax reduction.
All of this shows the illiteracy of the so called GOP fiscal responsibility.
And don’t get me started with the social policies, which are anti-women, xenophobic, and nativist/nationalistic, which has meant the bigot brigade’s loudest champions are coming forward: the KKK.
This is what the GOP has come to represent.
re: #164 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
They were chatting about their grand children, jeeze!
re: #164 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Good morning Lizards. I see Republicans are freaking out over Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton “meeting”.
ZOMG COLLUSION! LYNCH MUST RECUSE! RIGGED SYSTEM! ELEVENTY!
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re: #162 Emptor scriptor Remorse
Save a horse, ride a cowboy!
Giggity
I saw someone with “G1GG1TY” as their license plate today, and I think it was a New York plate too, which is a really weird coincidence.
re: #165 lawhawk
I would break something laughing if Christie ended up the VP. He’d bring nothing of value to the ticket, especially since he couldn’t pay people in New Jersey to vote for him, much less any other state.
My guess is that he’ll end up the VP anyway. Trump is going to want a Yes Man who picks up his dry cleaning. That perfectly describes Christie.
Have a workout routine, extreme streaking.
He’s not just crazy - he’s crazy hot.
The 21-year-old man who pranced around naked on the red staircase in Times Square before plunging to the ground has been identified as an international runway fashion model based in New York City.
Krit McClean of Manhattan bared it all and shouted out “Donald Trump, where are you?!” during the hour-plus bizarre display that stopped morning rush-hour traffic and drew hundreds of bystanders just before 8 a.m.
re: #169 Lidane
I would break something laughing if Christie ended up the VP. He’d bring nothing of value to the ticket, especially since he couldn’t pay people in New Jersey to vote for him, much less any other state.
My guess is that he’ll end up the VP anyway. Trump is going to want a Yes Man who picks up his dry cleaning. That perfectly describes Christie.
Trump-Christie would have no hope of carrying NY, NJ or PA. So, undoubtedly Trump will pick him. It’s how this campaign rolls.
Speaking of The Outlaw Jersey Whale:
.@GovChristie orders all state-funded infrastructure projects to halt work https://t.co/huF8OjENZF | AP pic.twitter.com/yt7LXrOgNg
— POLITICO (@politico) July 1, 2016
I’m sure this will endear Christie to the few people in New Jersey who don’t actively hate him already.
Trump, Tebow, Komen, private inurement, devalued memorabilia—story has everything. By top charity cop @Fahrenthold https://t.co/jpgInuiWNY
— Laura Helmuth (@laurahelmuth) July 1, 2016
*facepalm*
re: #173 Lidane
I love “Outlaw Jersey Whale.” It is perfect.
re: #173 Lidane
Speaking of The Outlaw Jersey Whale:
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I’m sure this will endear Christie to the few people in New Jersey who don’t actively hate him already.
Yeah that’s smart in a state notorious for its traffic.
re: #173 Lidane
Speaking of The Outlaw Jersey Whale:
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I’m sure this will endear Christie to the few people in New Jersey who don’t actively hate him already.
Lies.
Trump’s going to win New York, New Jersey, and California, don’t ya know?
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re: #175 PhillyPretzel
I love “Outlaw Jersey Whale.” It is perfect.
I can’t take credit for that. It’s been around a while:
Chris Christie is the outlaw Jersey Whale pic.twitter.com/UkzgPE6QxT
— Michael Rogers (@Ezmike13) January 12, 2015
re: #173 Lidane
This has been delayed for a couple of years. The bill is now due.
So, there’s a couple of plans on the table:
GOP: eliminate estate tax in exchange for the gas tax hike
Dems: cut sales tax rate by 1 point in exchange for gas tax hike.
Both are awful for different reasons.
The GOP plan is the burden shifting BS the GOP is known for. The Democrats plan is worse, but in a different way since it’d cut the state revenues by more than a billion dollars, meaning budget cuts would be needed in future years. And we’d still have issues with the roads, mass transit, education, and everything else.
This is what happens when you don’t plan for the future and you finance away your present to get “low taxes”. Someone else will end up footing the bill, and it will get ugly in a hurry.
SMOTI is claiming Obama’s Central American juveniles are decapitating and stoning people.
re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
SMOTI is claiming Obama’s Central American juveniles are decapitating and stoning people.
Is he crossing his memes? I thought it was teh Muslims who stoned people.
re: #181 Timothy Watson
Is he crossing his memes? I thought it was teh Muslims who stoned people.
Same thing. I mean, they’re all brown right?
*facepalm*
David Barton tells Christian voters that they much accept the fact that Donald Trump is “God’s guy” in this election https://t.co/HOn2qkJLZl
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) June 30, 2016
re: #184 Lidane
David Barton tells Christian voters that they much accept the fact that Donald Trump is “God’s guy” in this election
Two out of three Corinthians agree!!!
re: #111 SoundGuy 2016
That shirt has to be a joke. Notice Trump has a wrestling belt? Looks like it.
Why not, his whole campaign has been WWE talkdown BS.
re: #184 Lidane
*facepalm*
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I thought God’s guys were half of the other 12 candidates. God’s omnipotence seems to be slipping.
re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Central American Gangs Committing Horrific Crimes in USA…
— DRUDGE REPORT (@DRUDGE_REPORT) July 1, 2016
The gangs that have been here for a long while. That includes groups like MS-13. Violent gangs, whose initiations in to their criminal enterprise include all manner of violence - armed robberies, homicides, etc.
It must be an election year, because these seem to come in cycles.
re: #188 lawhawk
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The gangs that have been here for a long while. That includes groups like MS-13. Violent gangs, whose initiations in to their criminal enterprise include all manner of violence - armed robberies, homicides, etc.
It must be an election year, because these seem to come in cycles.
We need two walls, one to keep the potential gang members out, another to keep our own domestic gang members in…
re: #188 lawhawk
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The gangs that have been here for a long while. That includes groups like MS-13. Violent gangs, whose initiations in to their criminal enterprise include all manner of violence - armed robberies, homicides, etc.
It must be an election year, because these seem to come in cycles.
It’s only important to SMOTI and Drudge if they can blame it on Obama or the Democrats. Criminal gangs have existed for centuries in the Americas.
re: #190 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
It’s only important to SMOTI and Drudge if they can blame it on Obama or the Democrats. Criminal gangs have existed for centuries in the Americas.
Some are armed with assault weapons, others with spread sheets…
re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Certainly more similarities than differences.
Find the 5 differences. pic.twitter.com/b1QAx6cPPv
— Rodrigo Huertas (@orchards24) July 1, 2016
Including both being born in NY and eligible to be President of the United States. Scary, huh?
re: #193 Franklin
Certainly more similarities than differences.
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Including both being born in NY and eligible to be President of the United States. Scary, huh?
BJ would have to come here and live for 14 years to become eligible
But they are both cases of people who started something they have no idea how to finish
Finally, an honest candidate for PM “The crime issss life, the ssssentence is death!” pic.twitter.com/DGDgYZXy3D
— Killer Kitsch (@killer_kitsch) July 1, 2016
re: #183 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
He’s pulling it from this news report in VA. wjla.com
Jesus, MS-13 has been in Virginia since the early 2000s:
On July 13, 2003, Brenda Paz, a 17-year-old former MS-13 member turned informant was found stabbed on the banks of the Shenandoah River in Virginia. Paz was killed for informing the FBI about Mara Salvatrucha’s criminal activities. Two of her former friends were later convicted of the murder.[23]
re: #196 Timothy Watson
Jesus, MS-13 has been in Virginia since the early 2000s:
Easily. But it’s all Obama’s fault. Just ask the guy whose site is stuck in the late 90’s.
re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
BJ would have to come here and live for 14 years to become eligible
But they are both cases of people who started something they have no idea how to finish
Dangit, you are correct. I thought he had lived here for longer. Looks like just 3 years.
re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
BJ would have to come here and live for 14 years to become eligible
But they are both cases of people who started something they have no idea how to finish
But then again, I am probably reading it incorrectly and you have to have been a resident the previous consecutive 14 years
1,000 workers at the Trump Taj Majal went on strike this morning after it failed to reach deal w/union negotiators. https://t.co/Y7V3nyiUPt
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) July 1, 2016
re: #200 Franklin
Trump licensed the name to the casino. He’s no longer involved there. It’s owned by Carl Icahn and operated by Tropicana.
All the earlier bankruptcies essentially ended his casino business involvement in any fashion other than in licensing deals.
re: #196 Timothy Watson
Jesus, MS-13 has been in Virginia since the early 2000s:
Leave it SMOTI to misconstrue the facts to suit his preferred narrative.
Latest GOP nothingburger:
AG Lynch met up with former President Clinton at an airport. GOP thinks this was to get the AG to not consider any charges for Hillary.
Only problem is that the AG has already said that she’d rely on the recommendation of the investigating officials.
Lynch to Accept Whatever Recommendations FBI Makes in Clinton Email Inquiry, Official Says, via @nytimes https://t.co/Y3579c15Ju
— Joe Scarborough (@JoeNBC) July 1, 2016
So, where’s the kerfuffle? Where’s the controversy? Oh wait, it’s a smokescreen to make people forget that Trump’s bugnut insanities from just the past 24 hours.
re: #199 Franklin
But then again, I am probably reading it incorrectly and you have to have been a resident the previous consecutive 14 years
I believe you have to have spent at least seven years of your adult life as well
You gotta love it. At least two state AGs have been accused of taking “campaign donations” in exchange for dropping investigations into Trump U, but the wingnuts think nothing of it.
Yet Bill Clinton meets with and has a chat with a woman he’s known for over a decade and it’s scandalous because that woman is Loretta Lynch and being seen with Bill is so improper that she must recuse herself from the case that…doesn’t yet exist.
re: #206 Targetpractice
You gotta love it. At least two state AGs have been accused of taking “campaign donations” in exchange for dropping investigations into Trump U, but the wingnuts think nothing of it.
Yet Bill Clinton meets with and has a chat with a woman he’s known for over a decade and it’s scandalous because that woman is Loretta Lynch and being seen with Bill is so improper that she must recuse herself from the case that…doesn’t yet exist.
Yep nothing but silence about Bondi and Abbott but this is scandalous.
re: #202 lawhawk
Trump licensed the name to the casino. He’s no longer involved there. It’s owned by Carl Icahn and operated by Tropicana.
All the earlier bankruptcies essentially ended his casino business involvement in any fashion other than in licensing deals.
Ahh, good to know. Thanks.
re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
BJ would have to come here and live for 14 years to become eligible
But they are both cases of people who started something they have no idea how to finish
Boris also voluntarily renounced his US citizenship when he was Mayor of London.
Breakfast is served!
Talk about an amazing combo: French toast + warm peaches + fried duck egg + maple bourbon sauce. #HowIsummer via @saltnpepperhere #foodandwine
re: #204 lawhawk
Latest GOP nothingburger:
AG Lynch met up with former President Clinton at an airport. GOP thinks this was to get the AG to not consider any charges for Hillary.
Only problem is that the AG has already said that she’d rely on the recommendation of the investigating officials.
So, where’s the kerfuffle? Where’s the controversy? Oh wait, it’s a smokescreen to make people forget that Trump’s bugnut insanities from just the past 24 hours.
The Fix is In!!!!111
Mornin’ everyone…Happy four day weekend.
I actually got up at 5am as I had a thought about what to do with all of the different Jenkins jobs I now have to report on. Sure, I can get Jenkins to email me an overview report that has the pass/fail/skip numbers for the tests. I still need to get them from the email into a table and send them out to stakeholders in a pretty format. And with 15 jobs and growing, that’s a lot of copy/pasty.
So I thought, wait, this is a simple table? I’ll bet I can parse that fucker in a second with Jmeter, then I just need to loop through all 15 (soon to be 16) jobs on Jenkins and pull the results into a flat file.
So that’s what I did. One line of Jmeter script (/${sProject}/ws/target/etc../overview.html), four regular expressions (passed number, skipped number, failed number and passrate) and a beanshell post processor to slap those little fuckers into a CSV format with the name of the project in the first column. I even added a datestamp to the output filename so I can just run this thing every morning and attach the csv file to an email.
That’s how to start a holiday weekend - now I can actually relax because I’ve eliminated an hour’s worth of work every morning.
re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
SMOTI is claiming Obama’s Central American juveniles are decapitating and stoning people.
Is SMOTI being Stupid on the Internet again?
re: #204 lawhawk
Latest GOP nothingburger:
AG Lynch met up with former President Clinton at an airport. GOP thinks this was to get the AG to not consider any charges for Hillary.
Only problem is that the AG has already said that she’d rely on the recommendation of the investigating officials.
So, where’s the kerfuffle? Where’s the controversy? Oh wait, it’s a smokescreen to make people forget that Trump’s bugnut insanities from just the past 24 hours.
It also creates a lot of hand wringing on our side.
re: #214 Sir John Barron
Is SMOTI being Stupid on the Internet again?
Yep obsessing about Obummer and MS13 appaerntly.
re: #204 lawhawk
Latest GOP nothingburger:
AG Lynch met up with former President Clinton at an airport. GOP thinks this was to get the AG to not consider any charges for Hillary.
Only problem is that the AG has already said that she’d rely on the recommendation of the investigating officials.
So, where’s the kerfuffle? Where’s the controversy? Oh wait, it’s a smokescreen to make people forget that Trump’s bugnut insanities from just the past 24 hours.
Fake Meet Outrage. A “secret” meeting between Bill and AG Lynch that everyone knows about it. As Hillary might say, “sigh”.
Apparently the wingnuts think that this was all some nefarious scheme on Bill’s part, that he purposefully orchestrated this meet-up with Lynch in order to get her caught up in the appearance of impropriety and have no choice but to recuse herself. But if this is all some nefarious scheme, then what’s the endgame? If Lynch recuses herself, who does the case go to and how would that be beneficial to the Clintons?
Reading John Lewis’s book last night and got to the part where the SNCC (in conjunction with other groups) participated in Mississippi Freedom Summer and among other things, helped Mississippians form the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party.
It’s purpose was to be a non-exclusionary rival to the regular party organization and contend for inclusion as delegates at the 1964 Democratic Convention in NJ.
I could not help but think as I read, that a #BernieOrBust person reading this would think that that was what they were trying to do in 2016.
re: #220 Dr. Matt
That looks like the HQ of Draper Sterling LLC!
Donald Trump is the inevitable result of decades of GOP denial of reality. https://t.co/AWjK7jzbXy
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 1, 2016
Wow. Two aides told @nytimes Trump wasn’t even aware convention had to be held in Cleveland https://t.co/3lz85qG8dF pic.twitter.com/bj5znyNrFJ
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) July 1, 2016
Trump wants Palin to play a role because she endorsed him over Cruz; Melania may also speak https://t.co/3lz85qG8dF pic.twitter.com/3KjqJllC06
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) July 1, 2016
re: #211 Dr. Matt
Never ate a duck egg. Now wondering how different that is from chicken eggs.
Alt-right clowns have nothing better to do:
@shineing but you’re surely okay with your kind calling women whores who shoot your ugly ass down
— Danial دانیال (@danja84) July 1, 2016
re: #226 Great White Snark
Never ate a duck egg. Now wondering how different that is from chicken eggs.
I had a duck egg omelet not too long ago. Much more “creamier” than a chicken egg. Good stuff.
re: #222 Franklin
Reading John Lewis’s book last night and got to the part where the SNCC (in conjunction with other groups) participated in Mississippi Freedom Summer and among other things, helped Mississippians form the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party.
It’s purpose was to be a non-exclusionary rival to the regular party organization and contend for inclusion as delegates at the 1964 Democratic Convention in NJ.
I could not help but think as I read, that a #BernieOrBust person reading this would think that that was what they were trying to do in 2016.
That’s a good bet.
re: #227 Targetpractice
I don’t have nearly enough popcorn.
Trump’s plan is to kill us off via popcorn overdose.
re: #224 lawhawk
Donald Trump is the inevitable result of decades of GOP denial of reality.
They are the keepers of a Higher Truth, one that is not bound by the constricts of mundane facts.
@shineing I wasn’t aware the destruction of civilizations in the Americas were done by Ottoman Spaniards now
— Danial دانیال (@danja84) July 1, 2016
More salting of the earth:
Ashamed to be an American? Towns crack down on American pride | Via @toddstarnes | https://t.co/L4aPWtQmxI
— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 1, 2016
Nowhere in this article do they actually cite the ordinance. And the town denies that anyone actually did anything:
In Lexington, South Carolina Marine veteran Bob Michaelis was told to remove a patriotic display from his mattress company.
Mr. Michaelis lined the front of his store with American flags - to honor our troops.
“We got 10 flags up,” he told television station WIS. “I thought maybe it was about time we return the patriotism in America. There’s not enough of it. It seems to be lost.”
But instead of congratulating Bob’s patriotism, the town fathers dispatched the law. He was informed that the flags violated an ordinance.
“The town of Lexington says they got to come down because there’s an ordinance in place,” he said.
The town administrator told WIS they did not issue Bob a citation nor did they tell him to take down the flags.
There’s enough red flags here to suggest that it never happened.
Which is precisely the kind of thing that the GOP supports - get everyone angry and upset over nothing.
re: #233 electrotek
Ottomans get a really bad rap they don’t deserve from Europeans.
re: #236 Ziggy_TARDIS
Ottomans get a really bad rap they don’t deserve from Europeans.
Sometimes, they’re just the piece of furniture a person needs.
ROFL:
Aides: Trump Didn’t Even Realize Republican Convention Had to Be in Cleveland https://t.co/PwLMxcfHBv pic.twitter.com/POhakNyee0
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) July 1, 2016
I’m so glad I just got a new popcorn maker. I’m going to enjoy the RNC.
re: #236 Ziggy_TARDIS
Ottomans get a really bad rap they don’t deserve from Europeans.
I’m not really a fan of the Ottomans due to their behavior during the Treaty of Sevres so good riddance that Ataturk kicked them all out.
And, Trump still doesn’t understand how treaties and laws work…
Trump in 1993, testifying in front of Native American affairs committee: “They don’t look Indian” #inners https://t.co/A8xl9D5rgf
— All In w/Chris Hayes (@allinwithchris) July 1, 2016
re: #235 lawhawk
More salting of the earth:
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Nowhere in this article do they actually cite the ordinance. And the town denies that anyone actually did anything:
There’s enough red flags here to suggest that it never happened.
Which is precisely the kind of thing that the GOP supports - get everyone angry and upset over nothing.
It’s a county that overwhelmingly favored Romney over Obama but Fox will use it to claim liberals and Democrats are out to take down people’s flags. I agree with you though, there’s definitely a lot of bs at play here and there usually is in all these right wing fautxrage stories that they push every summer to get the American people think the government is criminalizing visible displays of patriotism.
re: #243 HappyWarrior
It’s a county that overwhelmingly favored Romney over Obama but Fox will use it to claim liberals and Democrats are out to take down people’s flags. I agree with you though, there’s definitely a lot of bs at play here and there usually is in all these right wing fautxrage stories that they push every summer to get the American people think the government is criminalizing visible displays of patriotism.
And why aren’t the lamestream liberal media reporting this blatant assault on our freedoms and culture?
re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And why aren’t the lamestream liberal media reporting this blatant assault on our freedoms and culture?
Yep. Works like a charm everytime.
re: #239 electrotek
I hope you are meaning the whole giving the country away.
I despise Abdulhamid II and the Young Turks, but throughout its history, and even after the Young Turks, I can find a lot of good things about the Ottomans.
So a little tech note- Can’t add any text above the Instagram embed code for an intro without breaking that function.
re: #246 Ziggy_TARDIS
I hope you are meaning the whole giving the country away.
I despise Abdulhamid II and the Young Turks, but throughout its history, and even after the Young Turks, I can find a lot of good things about the Ottomans.
I think about them every time I put my feet up to rest on a soft, backless stool.
re: #238 Lidane
Pass the popcornThis is gonna be great. It’ll get huge ratings as everyone watches Trump and what insanities he’ll say next.
Reminds me of the quip from Howard Stern’s Private Parts:
Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
Pig Vomit: How can that be?
Researcher: Answer most commonly given? “I want to see what he’ll say next.”
Pig Vomit: Okay, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
Pig Vomit: But… if they hate him, why do they listen?
Researcher: Most common answer? “I want to see what he’ll say next.”
Trump has taken Stern’s schtick and applied it to politics.
The dangerous thing is that Trump ever got to this place without any knowledge or understanding of the role of the president, his powers, and what it takes to be president.
Empty slogans might vanquish his opponents in a primary, but you’re running to be the most powerful person on the planet. You need to show you have the character and judgment to run. Trump has none. He has no redeeming characters, and his judgment sucks. His first instinct is to spout slurs, engage in bigotry, and to act as an authoritarian. His second is to double down on the first.
I’ll put it this way what troubles me what’s become of our electorate. Barring a complete about face by the GOP base, Trump will do better electorally than Alf Landon, Barry Goldwater, George McGovern, and Walter Mondale. All men who dedicated their lives to public service in some way rather than some dickhead carnival barker who exposed the deep seated bigotry that exists inside the GOP base.
re: #236 Ziggy_TARDIS
Ottomans get a really bad rap they don’t deserve from Europeans.
They’re the same people who idealize the 1683 Battle of Vienna where the Austrians defeated the Ottoman Empire, but don’t seem to realize that France was allied with the Ottoman Empire at the same time.
Not sure if true. But, no surprise if true.
Not allowed at RNC Convention:
— igorvolsky (@igorvolsky) July 1, 2016
Coke cans
glass bottles
tennis balls
BB guns
paintball guns
water guns
Allowed at RNC convention:
Guns
re: #252 SoundGuy 2016
Not sure if true. But, no surprise if true.
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I think the venue prohibits guns.
re: #252 SoundGuy 2016
Not true.
FYI: https://t.co/K8OABqpPVH @igorvolsky
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 1, 2016
Loretta Lynch will be commenting on the “meeting” in a few minutes.
I know some here have been lambasted for suggesting this was a dumb move. But I have to agree. Regardless of the situation and substance of the conversation…this was a terrible unforced error.
What is the hell were they both thinking? Knowing the political climate, it was really stupid.
My granddad has a hat for each university his grandchildren attended and today I got to give him mine #AAMU pic.twitter.com/6FTZJnywMB
— Jordan (@CptReckless) July 1, 2016
re: #255 blueraven
Loretta Lynch will be commenting on the “meeting” in a few minutes.
I know some here have been lambasted for suggesting this was a dumb move. But I have to agree. Regardless of the situation and substance of the conversation…this was a terrible unforced error.
What is the hell were they both thinking? Knowing the political climate, it was really stupid.
I agree. Completely foreseeable. And not just a problem regarding wingnuts; people like me who moved from Bernie to Hillary had a problem with the Clintons to begin with over just this kind of tin-ear understanding of political currents.
re: #254 lawhawk
They’re saying SS ‘won’t allow guns in SS controlled areas.’ As if only part of the floor and back area is SS controlled, but the main floor isn’t.
I’d figure the entire facility is a SS controlled area. But what do I know.
More likely the facility itself would not allow guns but the RNC whackos would so it’s sorta moot .
This was in the comments on @HillaryClinton’s note in The Toast. It deserves to be shared. pic.twitter.com/mhFIoARgaR
— Kara Calavera (@KaraCalavera) July 1, 2016
re: #257 Barefoot Grin
I agree. Completely foreseeable. And not just a problem regarding wingnuts; people like me who moved from Bernie to Hillary had a problem with the Clintons to begin with over just this kind of tin-ear understanding of political currents.
I have been on the Hillary team from the beginning, so I have no political bias against the Clintons. But FFS, these are smart people. Clinton is a political animal. It was an awful move.
So, you’re buying into the idea that this is an unforced error for a normal investigation that is hyped by Republicans (none of the other SoS’s have been charged with anything) as the newest biggest thing ever. It’s not the Clinton’s that are having the unforced error here.
I’ve never been so excited for a GOP convention. I might actually record it!
re: #262 SoundGuy 2016
I’ve never been so excited for a GOP convention. I might actually record it!
No word on the keynote yet right?
re: #262 SoundGuy 2016
I’ve never been so excited for a GOP convention. I might actually record it!
Trump should hire Great White’s pyrotechnics guy to put on a yuuuuge fireworks display for his entrance at the #RNC hatefest.
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) July 1, 2016
re: #259 Franklin
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Too often I see Clinton accused left and right as not being a genuinely caring person. This is a nice story.
re: #261 Belafon
So, you’re buying into the idea that this is an unforced error for a normal investigation that is hyped by Republicans (none of the other SoS’s have been charged with anything) as the newest biggest thing ever. It’s not the Clinton’s that are having the unforced error here.
So is it not all over every news channel? Do you think it is helpful to Hillary? I am not “buying into” anything. This meeting was an unforced error. Period.
I signed the change.org petition for guns at the RNC. Because we have to take the country back from the lieburals!
My first foray into ratfucking.
re: #264 Dr. Matt
That’s just wrong. No matter how batcrap insane they are, that’s not what anyone should wish for.
This will happen to my dog sooner or later….
look at this goofy pup tho just happy to finish the trail mix@jamesreb pic.twitter.com/o8G4MrQfs6
— darth™ (@darth) July 1, 2016
re: #261 Belafon
So, you’re buying into the idea that this is an unforced error for a normal investigation that is hyped by Republicans (none of the other SoS’s have been charged with anything) as the newest biggest thing ever. It’s not the Clinton’s that are having the unforced error here.
Yes, I am. I know HRC is no Dukakis, but I heard the factoid that he was up 17 points at this point in the campaign. Those who love and support her should not be complacent. Look at what one photo of Dukakis in a tank did.
re: #259 Franklin
Sigh…
Note: I don’t recommend reading the comments on most articles if you want to maintain faith in humanity. A nice one is a rarity.
— Kara Calavera (@KaraCalavera) July 1, 2016
re: #266 blueraven
So is it not all over every news channel? Do you think it is helpful to Hillary? I am not “buying into” anything. This meeting was an unforced error. Period.
Because of everyone buying into the 30 years of Republican smears.
At some point, you say, “enough.”
Sanders rebuts Biden on Clinton endorsement: ‘We are not there at this moment’
Grampa Sanders is slowing becoming the Sarah Palin of the Left.
re: #272 gwangung
Because of everyone buying into the 30 years of Republican smears.
At some point, you say, “enough.”
Sometimes reality bites! But there ya go.
re: #274 Dr. Matt
Sanders rebuts Biden on Clinton endorsement: ‘We are not there at this moment’
Grampa Sanders is slowing becoming the Sarah Palin of the Left.
When is he ever going to be there? He’s had plenty of time. He really wants to continue to push the false narrative that he’s the only politician that cares about the average American doesn’t he?
re: #276 HappyWarrior
When is he ever going to be there? He’s had plenty of time. He really wants to continue to push the false narrative that he’s the only politician that cares about the average American doesn’t he?
Somehow “winning” second place means you actually won and get to make the rules now. I have lost all respect for him. He’s Joe Lieberman to me at this point.
This interview with Jonathan Capehart will not help.
Maybe the 4th of July holiday will take it out of the news. Sigh.
re: #278 Dr. Matt
Somehow “winning” second place means you actually won and get to make the rules now. I have lost all respect for him. He’s Joe Lieberman to me at this point.
I have too. At this point, I could care less about what happens to his career. He gets primaried, loses his influence in the Senate, I no longer care. He’s chosen to be a petty little brat because he can’t accept that Clinton beat him fair and square. It’s such a waste because some of his ideas are genuinely good even if too idealistic.
re: #272 gwangung
Furthermore, it strikes me that this is part of the media acting as MBF. Trump’s bribery of two state governments need to be balanced by SOMETHING vaguely scandalous on the Clinton side so we can dismiss both.
Is there a point in all this where we stop being afraid of our own shadows? Where we don’t spontaneously erupt into paroxysms of shock and dismay because the Clintons were “caught” acting like normal human beings and the wingnut press decides that there’s some nefarious undercurrent to it? This is the way we pull defeat from the jaws of victory, by second-guessing our candidate and giving the wingnuts the cover they need to tell the voters that what was done was “the worst thing EVAH!”.
Which do you think helps us more in the long run: Telling voters that this is a nothingburger and there’s no reason to read into it more than what’s visible on the surface? Or running around with our hair on fire about how Bill is engaging in behavior that looks “wrong” and could very well be “wrong”?
re: #269 Franklin
This will happen to my dog sooner or later….
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I had to put a cone of shame on my big dog after he had surgery a couple years ago. He was an expert on knocking the thing off. He would stand next to the steps on our front porch, look down, and hit the side of the cone with his paw and regularly managed to unhook it somehow.
re: #281 gwangung
Furthermore, it strikes me that this is part of the media acting as MBF. Trump’s bribery of two state governments need to be balanced by SOMETHING vaguely scandalous on the Clinton side so we can dismiss both.
Well the media’s not paying attention to the bribery of state officials or to the solicitation of foreign contributions. So even the MBF isn’t really balanced.
re: #282 Targetpractice
The Clintons can do nothing right, and there’s an indictment lurking behind every corner and relationship.
Trump, however, can apparently avoid investigations and potential civil and criminal liabilities by donating to the AGs investigating him, and no one sees corruption or prosecutions there?
This didn’t happen in just one location, but in two states - Texas and Florida. The AGs in both states received donations from Trump, and miraculously, investigations into his scam school ended shortly thereafter.
You can’t explain that (unless you mean quid pro quo and corruption of government officials).
re: #274 Dr. Matt
Sanders rebuts Biden on Clinton endorsement: ‘We are not there at this moment’
Grampa Sanders is slowing becoming the Sarah Palin of the Left.
Bernie’s endorsement means nothing at this point. If it ever did.
re: #286 Sir John Barron
Bernie’s endorsement means nothing at this point. If it ever did.
He’s still grifting his supporters too. Glad that while my brothers nominally supported him, they didn’t contribute either. He doesn’t deserve it.
I want someone to ask Bernie or Weaver this: “If the situations were reversed and you or Senator Sanders were the candidate had clinched enough delegates and Secretary Clinton was over two weeks past the last primary without conceding, would you not have a problem with such an individual’s behavior and rhetoric. Of course, knowing how Bernie is, he’d probably curse up a storm and complain about the media but it’s a legitimate question to ask. Sanders is NOT going to be the Democratic nominee. He just isn’t. It doesn’t matter what H.A. Goodman says but he’s just not. Meanwhile Bernie in fact did endorse Obama when it became clear he had enough of delegates over Hillary. I don’t know, maybe Bernie has problems with women, apparently he acted like a real dick to Madeline Kunin
re: #287 HappyWarrior
He’s still grifting his supporters too. Glad that while my brothers nominally supported him, they didn’t contribute either. He doesn’t deserve it.
I haven’t contributed this cycle. Too many debts to pay off. I gave the full amount to Obama in 08. Probably won’t do that for a while. Giving some to local candidates. I probably should throw a few bucks at the DCCC and the DSCC.
re: #256 Franklin
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That’s a lot of grandchildren, but VB has twice as many (most of them are too young for college, so her hat collection will have to wait).
Here’s a hell of a concept: Instead of jumping every time the wingnuts insist they smell smoke, how about we wait until we actually see flames? If the wingnuts want to insist that there is something improper to Bill and Loretta having a conversation, how’s about we wait until there’s actually proof that he was meeting with her to discuss the investigation and possibly even looking for evidence that he trying to sway her before we condemn him?
re: #270 Barefoot Grin
Yes, I am. I know HRC is no Dukakis, but I heard the factoid that he was up 17 points at this point in the campaign. Those who love and support her should not be complacent. Look at what one photo of Dukakis in a tank did.
I think Willie Horton had a bigger effect than the tank, personally.
re: #288 HappyWarrior
Hell, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in the 2008 Democratic Primary and she didn’t hold the party and DNC platform hostage! Bernie is a petulant little man-child.
re: #289 Sir John Barron
I haven’t contributed this cycle. Too many debts to pay off. I gave the full amount to Obama in 08. Probably won’t do that for a while. Giving some to local candidates. I probably should throw a few bucks at the DCCC and the DSCC.
Local is good. I’m really hoping we can give Comstock a race here but I’m not 100% optimistic.
re: #282 Targetpractice
Is there a point in all this where we stop being afraid of our own shadows? Where we don’t spontaneously erupt into paroxysms of shock and dismay because the Clintons were “caught” acting like normal human beings and the wingnut press decides that there’s some nefarious undercurrent to it? This is the way we pull defeat from the jaws of victory, by second-guessing our candidate and giving the wingnuts the cover they need to tell the voters that what was done was “the worst thing EVAH!”.
Which do you think helps us more in the long run: Telling voters that this is a nothingburger and there’s no reason to read into it more than what’s visible on the surface? Or running around with our hair on fire about how Bill is engaging in behavior that looks “wrong” and could very well be “wrong”?
OK. Let’s flip this around.
Hypothetical:
Laura Bush is running for president. Current president and AG are republicans.
Laura is under investigation (nevermind whether it is bogus or not)
George Bush has private 30 minute chance meeting with republican AG.
No, we wouldn’t jump all over that. Not at all. //
My hair is not on fire. But I will not bury my head in the sand and pretend this is a good thing. Good grief. There is no way this is not a problem. Will it pass? I am sure it will. But damage will be done.
re: #293 Dr. Matt
Hell, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in the 2008 Democratic Primary and she didn’t hold the party and DNC platform hostage! Bernie is a petulant little man-child.
She ended up being a great surrogate for him. If Bernie can be a fraction of the surrogate, Clinton was for Obama, it will be a minor miracle.
re: #220 Dr. Matt
So the Trump Organization is going into building single family homes now.
re: #295 blueraven
OK. Let’s flip this around.
Hypothetical:
Laura Bush is running for president. Current president and AG are republicans.
Laura is under investigation (nevermind whether it is bogus or not)
George Bush has private 30 minute chance meeting with republican AG.No, we wouldn’t jump all over that. Not at all. //
My hair is not on fire. But I will not bury my head in the sand and pretend this is a good thing. Good grief. There is no way this is not a problem. Will it pass? I am sure it will. But damage will be done.
There’s a lot less damage if, when the wingnuts start screaming up a storm, we don’t nod our heads sagely and say “They have a point.”
re: #295 blueraven
OK. Let’s flip this around.
Hypothetical:
Laura Bush is running for president. Current president and AG are republicans.
Laura is under investigation (nevermind whether it is bogus or not)
George Bush has private 30 minute chance meeting with republican AG.No, we wouldn’t jump all over that. Not at all. //
My hair is not on fire. But I will not bury my head in the sand and pretend this is a good thing. Good grief. There is no way this is not a problem. Will it pass? I am sure it will. But damage will be done.
Remember all the investigations into whether Cheney’s change of address was enough to get around the constitutional requirement that the President and VP needed to be from different states? Remember the fuss Democrats threw, and how they shut down government until the matter was resolved?
This Clinton-Lynch airport meeting hoopla is silly. What are they supposed to do? Ignore each other?
Anybody who has traveled knows that at airports you can simply walk onto other planes and visit with people. Sheesh. I do it all the time.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 1, 2016
re: #291 Targetpractice
Here’s a hell of a concept: Instead of jumping every time the wingnuts insist they smell smoke, how about we wait until we actually see flames? If the wingnuts want to insist that there is something improper to Bill and Loretta having a conversation, how’s about we wait until there’s actually proof that he was meeting with her to discuss the investigation and possibly even looking for evidence that he trying to sway her before we condemn him?
It doesn’t matter. It was improper. This is common sense.
They are both lawyers and should understand the legal concept of avoiding the appearance of impropriety.
re: #225 FormerDirtDart
Why did they tell him? It would have hilarious to have him waiting for the coronation in Trump Tower, then wondering where everybody was.
re: #291 Targetpractice
Or… just tell the wingnuts to fuck off with all their manufactured bullshit. That’s my preferred method.
re: #299 Belafon
Remember all the investigations into whether Cheney’s change of address was enough to get around the constitutional requirement that the President and VP needed to be from different states? Remember the fuss Democrats threw, and how they shut down government until the matter was resolved?
WTF? This is in no way equivalent.
At least give me something similar if you are going to argue my point.
re: #289 Sir John Barron
I will probably give $5 to Clinton.
Then volunteer for her. I think we can make Texas competitive, at the very least, bleed off money that could be used elsewhere.
re: #292 Belafon
I think Willie Horton had a bigger effect than the tank, personally.
Maybe. I wish I could be as optimistic as you all seem to be about the “optics”. If my complaints here are really “hair on fire” and helping to stoke the issue I should shut up and will. FWIW, I know Bill was not engaged in any wrongdoing and this is innocent. That was never my concern.
re: #225 FormerDirtDart
Trump wants Palin to play a role because she endorsed him over Cruz; Melania may also speak t.co pic.twitter.com
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) July 1, 2016
It’s going to be a who’s who of extremists and wingnuts since most mainstream GOPers are avoiding the RNC like the zika virus. Expect Bat Shit Crazy Bachmann, Weiner-Savage, Malkin, Gohmert! and a host of many others of the insane.
re: #307 Dr. Matt
It’s going to be a who’s who of extremists and wingnuts since most mainstream GOPers are avoiding the RNC like the zika virus. Expect Bat Shit Crazy Bachmann, Weiner-Savage, Malkin, Gohmert! and a host of many others of the insane.
Melania and Clint should have a squint-off.
I understand what’s being said. It is a bad optic. That said, it is telling that the media has said little to nothing about Trump-re: #307 Dr. Matt
It’s going to be a who’s who of extremists and wingnuts since most mainstream GOPers are avoiding the RNC like the zika virus. Expect Bat Shit Crazy Bachmann, Weiner-Savage, Malkin, Gohmert! and a host of many others of the insane.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Coulter there.
re: #298 Targetpractice
There’s a lot less damage if, when the wingnuts start screaming up a storm, we don’t nod our heads sagely and say “They have a point.”
And how far out in the weeds/up the chain of command do we carry this? I mean, the President is the AG’s direct supervisor. Do we now say neither Hillary nor Bill can meet with Obama, because Obama is the AG’s boss, who is the FBI Director’s boss, and on and on and on? How about Biden? Can Bill and Hillary meet with him? Because he might then talk to Obama, who is the AG’s boss, etc.
There’s an appearance of impropriety ONLY IF you buy into the wingnut narrative that it’s a criminal investigation, which is built on the assumption of illegal activity. Like I said yesterday, the response from every Democrat should have been, “What the fuck are you talking about? Get out of here with that noise!”, but instead we bought into the narrative and clucked our tongues and clutched our pearls.
Sometimes I think we DESERVE to lose.
re: #307 Dr. Matt
It’s going to be a who’s who of extremists and wingnuts since most mainstream GOPers are avoiding the RNC like the zika virus. Expect Bat Shit Crazy Bachmann, Weiner-Savage, Malkin, Gohmert! and a host of many others of the insane.
Jerry Falwell Jr., James Dobson, mad maybe even Bryan Fisher. Needs a fourth “religious leader” though. Who should it be?
re: #301 blueraven
It doesn’t matter. It was improper. This is common sense.
They are both lawyers and should understand the legal concept of avoiding the appearance of impropriety.
I would think lawyers would also understand that the appearance of impropriety is enhanced by taking action that only makes sense if one engaged in an improper act. Recusing herself will not magically erase the conversation, it will instead fuel speculation that the two were engaged in discussion of the case and how Mrs. Clinton might avoid indictment and/or a felony conviction.
re: #311 Skip Intro
Jerry Falwell Jr., James Dobson, mad maybe even Bryan Fisher. Needs a fourth “religious leader” though. Who should it be?
Robert Jeffres seems to be a huge backer of Trumps. Saw him quoted in the WaPo today.
re: #311 Skip Intro
Jerry Falwell Jr., James Dobson, mad maybe even Bryan Fisher. Needs a fourth “religious leader” though. Who should it be?
Thulsa Doom
More evidence that Trump doesn’t have two dimes to rub together.
Donald Trump used money donated for charity to buy himself a Tim Tebow-signed football helmet
re: #316 Skip Intro
More evidence that Trump doesn’t have two dimes to rub together.
Donald Trump used money donated for charity to buy himself a Tim Tebow-signed football helmet
Maybe, but you don’t get rich by spending your own money.
re: #314 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Hey CNN. FIRE THAT ASSHOLE NOW!
I posted about someone else leaving the campaign last nite.
It is a dumpster fire.
Kevin Kellems resigns as Trump’s Dir of Surrogates after TWO WEEKS on job. He writes: “While brief, it has been an interesting experience..”
— Edward Mejia Davis (@TeddyDavisCNN) July 1, 2016
re: #301 blueraven
It doesn’t matter. It was improper. This is common sense.
They are both lawyers and should understand the legal concept of avoiding the appearance of impropriety.
I’m pretty sure that the response of the GOP leadership to our “We must avoid the appearance of impropriety!” nonsense is to laugh up their sleeves at us and high five, because we have swalowed their narrative, and we’re now all on their page, that HRC is under criminal investigation and whether or not she’s indicted is an open question.
Happy Friday everyone…be nice to each other. Stay on your own plane.
re: #295 blueraven
OK. Let’s flip this around.
Hypothetical:
Laura Bush is running for president. Current president and AG are republicans.
Laura is under investigation (nevermind whether it is bogus or not)
George Bush has private 30 minute chance meeting with republican AG.No, we wouldn’t jump all over that. Not at all. //
My hair is not on fire. But I will not bury my head in the sand and pretend this is a good thing. Good grief. There is no way this is not a problem. Will it pass? I am sure it will. But damage will be done.
Yeah, let’s flip it around. Powell is running for president, and is being investigated. His wife meets the AG in the airport. The Republicans would go “They’re in a fucking airport. What are they supposed to do?” and Democrats will go “This is a normal investigation, let’s wait until it’s over to see if there’s a problem.” Tell me you think that anything other than that would happen?
re: #319 Stanley Sea
I posted about someone else leaving the campaign last nite.
It is a dumpster fire.
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Probably won’t put that one on his resume.
re: #319 Stanley Sea
it has been an interesting experience..”
Sounds like what you tell your buddy after you had a beer and before you spend an hour bitching about your latest job.
re: #321 darthstar
Happy Friday everyone…be nice to each other. Stay on your own plane.
How’d he get back? Did he have to swim?
re: #319 Stanley Sea
I posted about someone else leaving the campaign last nite.
It is a dumpster fire.
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“Wait a minute. You mean I have to pay you for the job?”
re: #312 Targetpractice
I would think lawyers would also understand that the appearance of impropriety is enhanced by taking action that only makes sense if one engaged in an improper act. Recusing herself will not magically erase the conversation, it will instead fuel speculation that the two were engaged in discussion of the case and how Mrs. Clinton might avoid indictment and/or a felony conviction.
I never said she should recuse herself. All I said is this was a self inflicted wound that should not have happened.
And if we cant even admit that, I just don’t get it.
re: #320 Blind Frog Belly White
I’m pretty sure that the response of the GOP leadership to our “We must avoid the appearance of impropriety!” nonsense is to laugh up their sleeves at us and high five, because we have swalowed their narrative, and we’re now all on their page, that HRC is under criminal investigation and whether or not she’s indicted is an open question.
Hell, it’s worse than that, the “appearance of impropriety” argument not only accepts that this is a criminal investigation, it accepts the insistence that an indictment is inevitable and Lynch will be prosecuting Hillary. And so Lynch must treat the Clintons as defendants in a federal trial and distance herself from them to prevent any questions of her impartiality. Would it have been better had she greeted Bill not as a friend, but instead as “Mr. Clinton” and told him that she could not speak with him while his wife was under investigation?
President Trump’s Federal Employees Wouldn’t Be Able To Stay At Most Trump Hotels
The properties are missing from a federal list of hotels approved for fire safety.
“Youze mean that after all the money I saved on steel by using mob concrete you expect me to spend on fire safety? Fuck youze!”
re: #328 blueraven
I never said she should recuse herself. All I said is this was a self inflicted wound that should not have happened.
And if we cant even admit that, I just don’t get it.
How is it a self-inflicted wound unless we accept that there is no question of whether Hillary will be indicted and Lynch charged with trying her in federal court?
re: #329 Targetpractice
Hell, it’s worse than that, the “appearance of impropriety” argument not only accepts that this is a criminal investigation, it accepts the insistence that an indictment is inevitable and Lynch will be prosecuting Hillary. And so Lynch must treat the Clintons as defendants in a federal trial and distance herself from them to prevent any questions of her impartiality. Would it have been better had she greeted Bill not as a friend, but instead as “Mr. Clinton” and told him that she could not speak with him while his wife was under investigation?
That is total bullshit.
re: #322 Belafon
Yeah, let’s flip it around. Powell is running for president, and is being investigated. His wife meets the AG in the airport. The Republicans would go “They’re in a fucking airport. What are they supposed to do?” and Democrats will go “This is a normal investigation, let’s wait until it’s over to see if there’s a problem.” Tell me you think that anything other than that would happen?
We got Congress and the Senate back in the 2006 elections. Did we launch into a series of investigations and special committees over 9/11? The failure to catch ObL at Tora Bora? The intelligence failure that led to Iraq? The President’s warrantless wiretapping program? Any of that?
No, we didn’t. No matter what the Magical Balance Fairy may say, both parties AREN’T the same.
re: #328 blueraven
I never said she should recuse herself. All I said is this was a self inflicted wound that should not have happened.
And if we cant even admit that, I just don’t get it.
There is literally nothing any Democrat can do that will not supply grist for the Republican propaganda mill. Enough is enough. We’ve been freezing like deer in the headlights since the Atwater campaign of 1988. How’s that been working out for us?
And while we argue about Clinton/Lynch, Trump is getting off the hook for bribery.
re: #335 gwangung
And while we argue about Clinton/Lynch, Trump is getting off the hook for bribery.
exactly. That is my point.
re: #335 gwangung
Trump’s crimes are so obvious and numerous that the media doesn’t want to have anything to do with them. It might get in the way of the all important horse race scenario that they set up for each election.
re: #332 blueraven
That is total bullshit.
No, sorry, it’s not. There’s only impropriety if there’s something to be improper about.
re: #328 blueraven
I never said she should recuse herself. All I said is this was a self inflicted wound that should not have happened.
And if we cant even admit that, I just don’t get it.
The self inflicted wound I see in this situation is the apparent dithering in the DOJ on whether or not Lynch should recuse herself from the investigation.
As I recall, this investigation is not a criminal investigation. If so, DOJ really shouldn’t have even mentioned recusal.
re: #329 Targetpractice
Hell, it’s worse than that, the “appearance of impropriety” argument not only accepts that this is a criminal investigation, it accepts the insistence that an indictment is inevitable and Lynch will be prosecuting Hillary. And so Lynch must treat the Clintons as defendants in a federal trial and distance herself from them to prevent any questions of her impartiality. Would it have been better had she greeted Bill not as a friend, but instead as “Mr. Clinton” and told him that she could not speak with him while his wife was under investigation?
That would be the exact “heads I win, tails you lose” scenario of the Republican script.
re: #339 EPR-radar
The self inflicted wound I see in this situation is the apparent dithering in the DOJ on whether or not Lynch should recuse herself from the investigation.
As I recall, this investigation is not a criminal investigation. If so, DOJ really shouldn’t have even mentioned recusal.
It isn’t a criminal investigation. Buying into that is the sure sign someone is scared of their shadow.
A couple thoughts. I keep seeing so many people complain about the free coverage Trump is getting, but look what it’s doing to him in the polls. Without all the free media coverage, millions wouldn’t know half the stuff that’s going on.
Second, if you can’t bring yourself to face the fact that Clinton meeting Lynch was a bad idea, you really gotta take a hard look at the way you’re looking at events. (BTW, I don’t think they’re both lawyers - I think Bill lost his license to practice law.)
re: #218 Targetpractice
Apparently the wingnuts think that this was all some nefarious scheme on Bill’s part, that he purposefully orchestrated this meet-up with Lynch in order to get her caught up in the appearance of impropriety and have no choice but to recuse herself. But if this is all some nefarious scheme, then what’s the endgame? If Lynch recuses herself, who does the case go to and how would that be beneficial to the Clintons?
Nefarious indeed!
re: #331 Targetpractice
How is it a self-inflicted wound unless we accept that there is no question of whether Hillary will be indicted and Lynch charged with trying her in federal court?
Never mind. You’re right Every thing is hunky-dory.
Trump is being skewered today all over the news for all his bullshit.
I am trying to argue this was a political fuck up and y’all are questioning my loyalty.
Thanks.
Charles Pierce’s take on the Bill Clinton Syndrone:
Call it Bill Clinton Syndrome. Describe the symptoms, please, Arizona ABC 15.
The private meeting took place on the west side of Sky Harbor International Airport on board a parked private plane. Former President Clinton was visiting the Phoenix area and arrived to Sky Harbor Monday evening to depart. Sources tell ABC15 Clinton was notified Lynch would be arriving at the airport soon and waited for her arrival. Lynch was arriving in Phoenix for a planned visit as part of her national tour to promote community policing. ABC15 asked Lynch about the meeting during her news conference at the Phoenix Police Department. “I did see President Clinton at the Phoenix airport as he was leaving and spoke to myself and my husband on the plane,” said Lynch. The private meeting comes as Lynch’s office is in charge of the ongoing investigation and potential charges involving Clinton’s email server.
My god, is it even necessary to describe how stupid and reckless this is? For the second presidential campaign in a row, Hillary Rodham Clinton is afflicted with a husband who can’t make a political move any more without breaking the china across the room.
And, not for nothing, but AG Lynch should have had armed agents stop him halfway up the jet-stairs. Only this week, Congressman Trey Gowdy had confessed to the nation that his two-year, $7 million snipe hunt had produced no snipes. And now, it’s all hands on deck again for the latest weeknight special at the Mena Airport. The Hill explains.
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the Senate majority whip who has previously pushed for a special counsel to investigate Hillary Clinton’s emails, tweeted that Lynch “must avoid even the appearance of conflict.” The controversy is creating a new headache for Clinton’s presidential campaign, which has for months been dogged by questions about the FBI’s investigation into her private server. That review, focused on the handling of classified information, is said to be in its final stages.
esquire.com
Go home, Bill. Stay there.
re: #344 blueraven
Never mind. You’re right Every thing is hunky-dory.
Trump is being skewered today all over the news for all his bullshit.I am trying to argue this was a political fuck up and y’all are questioning my loyalty.
Thanks.
I get that all the time. Criticism shall not be tolerated if it’s against Hillary.
This discussion has been had continuously since at least January…
And, for some damn reason it still has to be repeated at least daily…
@DavidCornDC yes, my gf believes this. Her words: “one is not worse than the other” she is single woman age 40 w/MBA for demographic info
— l thompson bushnell (@elle_tb15) July 1, 2016
Tell that to immigrants who’ll be rounded up, to women who lose repo rights, to low-income who lose assistance…. https://t.co/3sIwPrftn8
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) July 1, 2016
re: #342 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
A couple thoughts. I keep seeing so many people complain about the free coverage Trump is getting, but look what it’s doing to him in the polls. Without all the free media coverage, millions wouldn’t know half the stuff that’s going on.
Second, if you can’t bring yourself to face the fact that Clinton meeting Lynch was a bad idea, you really gotta take a hard look at the way you’re looking at events. (BTW, I don’t think they’re both lawyers - I think Bill lost his license to practice law.)
I did. And what I realized is that our pearl clutching is, as I said, buying into their narrative.
Tell me - if the situation were reversed, would Republicans be lining up to ‘tisk,tisk’ on Cable News? Or would they be aggressively pushing back? They would be unified in saying, “Nothing to see here. Move along”.
Accepting the idea that there’s an impropriety here that must be avoided is the camel’s nose. Pretty soon, the whole damn thing is in the tent.
Soldiers of the Somme arrive at New Broadcasting House. #Somme100 #wearehere pic.twitter.com/Z3eQaoPOsb
— BBC (@BBC) July 1, 2016
Have you seen this poignant #Somme100 tribute? #weareherehttps://t.co/3arYVzSpaA pic.twitter.com/Rkj8ZG8zZd
— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) July 1, 2016
A tribute to soldiers who fought in the Somme a hundred years ago.#wearehere #london #somme100 pic.twitter.com/3wnItUWY0O
— BBC London Newsroom (@BBCLondonNews) July 1, 2016
re: #346 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I get that all the time. Criticism shall not be tolerated if it’s against Hillary.
Don’t help me please. Hillary didn’t do anything.
re: #344 blueraven
Never mind. You’re right Every thing is hunky-dory.
Trump is being skewered today all over the news for all his bullshit.I am trying to argue this wast a political fuck up and y’all are questioning my loyalty.
Thanks.
OFFS, get down off that cross, you’re embarrassing yourself. Your loyalty is not being questioned and I’ve no time for people with martyr complexes. If all we’re going to do for the next five months is argue over how the Clintons have screwed the pooch this week because the wingnuts say so, then we might as well start preparing for President Trump. Should we go back and admit the Bros were right, Bill showing up at a polling place during the Massachusetts primary was “rigging the vote” and there should be a do-over?
Gunfire heard in diplomatic area of Bangladeshi capital, Dhaka, local media report https://t.co/9Med47g8cd
— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) July 1, 2016
re: #349 FormerDirtDart
You’re from north of the wall?
“It’s called Canada”
Wildlings, white walkers and hockey, So jealous
“NO, IT’S.. “
Ever seen a giant?— Seymour Obi (@ThaJawn) July 1, 2016
re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White
If the situation were reversed, the result would be the same with the opposing players playing the opposing roles. I can’t believe there is any doubt about that. The fact that the meeting took place at all is playing into their narrative. It was a stupid thing for both of them to do. Bill should have just said hello and moved on. Lynch should have said Hi, Bill”, and pretended to use her phone or something. THEY FUCKED UP. Deal with it.
re: #344 blueraven
Your opponents seem to be missing that it doesn’t matter in the slightest whether there was actual impropriety here or not. The media reaction could have been predicted before the event, therefore the event itself was a political rookie mistake. Stomping one’s feet and saying that we should “take a stand” etc. misses the point entirely.
re: #355 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
If the situation were reversed, the result would be the same with the opposing players playing the opposing roles. I can’t believe there is any doubt about that. The fact that the meeting took place at all is playing into their narrative. It was a stupid thing for both of them to do. Bill should have just said hello and moved on. Lynch should have said Hi, Bill”, and pretended to use her phone or something. THEY FUCKED UP. Deal with it.
How many Republicans would be going “Yeah, the optics were bad”?
re: #351 blueraven
I know, I mean generically, as in Hillary’s side, or cause, or some better way to phrase it.
Hard to think of a single game-changing (for the better) VP pick for Trump, but if he picks Newt, Trump is Andy Kaufmann for sure.
— (((Jewy))) (@60th_Street) July 1, 2016
re: #352 Targetpractice
OFFS, get down off that cross, you’re embarrassing yourself. Your loyalty is not being questioned and I’ve no time for people with martyr complexes. If all we’re going to do for the next five months is argue over how the Clintons have screwed the pooch this week because the wingnuts say so, then we might as well start preparing for President Trump. Should we go back and admit the Bros were right, Bill showing up at a polling place during the Massachusetts primary was “rigging the vote” and there should be a do-over?
Now that is embarrassing!
And please, don’t try to psychoanalyze me. You suck at it.
re: #357 Belafon
You mean if the political parties were reversed? I think some would conced the optics were bad. I think the same thing is going on now. Some Dems concede that the optics were bad. Most insist there was no impropriety, and the same exact thing would have happened in the reverse.
re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth
I was born in Northern Manhattan,
Lived as far north as Northern Vermont (local store was half in Canada),
Live in Northern Florida…
re: #356 Nyet
Your opponents seem to be missing that it doesn’t matter in the slightest whether there was actual impropriety here or not. The media reaction could have been predicted before the event, therefore the event itself was a political rookie mistake. Stomping one’s feet and saying that we should “take a stand” etc. misses the point entirely.
Actually, I don’t think so. This state of events has been the work of five decades of the right wing working the refs. The fact that this is an accepted part of the debate is entirely the point.
re: #353 FormerDirtDart
Why does the red thing behind the “Breaking News” banner look like a beer can?
re: #363 gwangung
Actually, I don’t think so. This state of events has been the work of five decades of the right wing working the refs. The fact that this is an accepted part of the debate is entirely the point.
Paraphrasing, “I don’t have any other media for you”.
re: #361 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
You mean if the political parties were reversed? I think some would conced the optics were bad. I think the same thing is going on now. Some Dems concede that the optics were bad. Most insist there was no impropriety, and the same exact thing would have happened in the reverse.
My memory is short, so help me here, but, as someone pointed out above, when Cheney went hunting with Scalia, how many Republicans were wringing their hands over the optics?
@chescaleigh you need this gif pic.twitter.com/4dgdH5OZgd
— Homokage Zexu (@PrinceZexu) July 1, 2016
re: #356 Nyet
Your opponents seem to be missing that it doesn’t matter in the slightest whether there was actual impropriety here or not. The media reaction could have been predicted before the event, therefore the event itself was a political rookie mistake. Stomping one’s feet and saying that we should “take a stand” etc. misses the point entirely.
Thank you.
The same way the Westboro Baptist Church puts the “B” in Baptist? Nitwit.
Palin: “Islam put the “I” in ISIS. pic.twitter.com/s5siTd5pcU
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) July 1, 2016
re: #356 Nyet
Your opponents seem to be missing that it doesn’t matter in the slightest whether there was actual impropriety here or not. The media reaction could have been predicted before the event, therefore the event itself was a political rookie mistake. Stomping one’s feet and saying that we should “take a stand” etc. misses the point entirely.
The media spent the 90s insisting that there was something to every conspiracy theory that the Republicans slung against the wall, from “Filegate” to “Travelgate” all the way back to Mena Airport. I always prefer Pierce’s name for it, “The Great Penis Hunt.” I should think by now we should be used to assuming the media will always spin the actions of a Clinton in the worst possible way and deal with that, rather than assuming there’s something to the media’s reaction.
re: #339 EPR-radar
All FBI investigations are necessarily criminal by their nature. But there’s never been any evidence that Clinton engaged in criminal acts. The email controversy isn’t a controversy given that there was no prohibition against the email setup she had at the time (it’s changed since). Likewise, the classified emails weren’t classified as such at the time, so the information wasn’t classified. NARA rules have been poorly enforced for years, and deleted emails are a problem for more than a decade - Powell and Rice emails are missing/deleted too. But those are technical violations of holding on to documents for posterity, not because it was criminal to not do so. There was no mishandling of classified info as the GOP purports as well, since the emails themselves were classified only afterwards.
So, what are we looking at? Nothingburgers. The GOP needs there to be a controversy, because that’s all that stands between a total blowout and possibly retaining Congress.
Then we get a meeting between AG Lynch and President Bill Clinton. These two have known each other for how long? They’re not supposed to talk at all? Really?
Law firms have “Chinese Wall” type setups so to avoid impropriety, and ABA Model Rules have guidance on what to do to avoid improprierty and wrongdoing - ethical and moral considerations where you might have a conflict of interest.
As it is, as far as I can tell, Lynch was going to leave the decision of whether there’s anything chargeable to others. The decision wasn’t going to be hers (the nexus of the so-called conflict of interest).
So there isn’t a conflict of interest. She is out of that loop.
And that makes the entire situation… a nothingburger.
re: #371 Targetpractice
The media spent the 90s insisting that there was something to every conspiracy theory that the Republicans slung against the wall, from “Filegate” to “Travelgate” all the way back to Mena Airport. I always prefer Pierce’s name for it, “The Great Penis Hunt.” I should think by now we should be used to assuming the media will always spin the actions of a Clinton in the worst possible way and deal with that, rather than assuming there’s something to the media’s reaction.
Yes!
re: #363 gwangung
Actually, I don’t think so. This state of events has been the work of five decades of the right wing working the refs. The fact that this is an accepted part of the debate is entirely the point.
What refs? There are no rules here. Thy’re fighting over the news cycle. They had a chance to keep things like the Benghazi report, Trumps charity fraud front and center and they threw up on themselves instead. Ask yourself, what good reason did Bill have to do something so shithead stupid as meet with the AG privately on an airplane? Lynch may not be the savviest politician, but Bill knows better.
re: #364 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Why does the red thing behind the “Breaking News” banner look like a beer can?
Because of the color, it always makes me think of a Coke can
And, it strikes me that the pop top is the GIUK gap
I checked. Still have no fucks to give about the optics.
Hillary will make her own decision about how to handle things with Bill, like any capable adult. She doesn’t need me telling her how to run her campaign. I’m fairly certain she’s probably better at running a campaign than I am.
If your mileage varies, that’s fine but please don’t be offended that I can’t find the emotional energy to get worked up over this.
Anyway, off to do something productive like run five miles. Ugh.
re: #373 blueraven
Yes!
That was a refutation of the idea that the Clintons should live like a couple of monks, not an endorsement of it.
I think you guys probably are more closer to agreeing than you don’t. The point I think BR is trying to make here isn’t that it was unethical of Lynch to meet Clinton but it gives fuel to the idea that there is something unethical at play here. I dunno. I think this honestly pales in comp to the shit Trump does on a daily basis but the media has shown it’s not concerned wit ha factual or accurate narrative.
re: #366 Belafon
My memory is short, so help me here, but, as someone pointed out above, when Cheney went hunting with Scalia, how many
RepublicansSane People were wringing their hands over the optics?
None. They were hoping that Cheney shot Scalia. Or vice versa.
re: #372 lawhawk
The tl;dr version of the prior comment:
GOP BS begets GOP BS. Don’t fall for GOP BS. Stay calm and fight on.
re: #355 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
If the situation were reversed, the result would be the same with the opposing players playing the opposing roles. I can’t believe there is any doubt about that. The fact that the meeting took place at all is playing into their narrative. It was a stupid thing for both of them to do. Bill should have just said hello and moved on. Lynch should have said Hi, Bill”, and pretended to use her phone or something. THEY FUCKED UP. Deal with it.
Horseshit. I don’t know how old you are, so I can’t ask whether you remember the 1990s. Even before Bill took the oath, the Vast right Wing Conspiracy got to work. Bullshit scandal after bullshit scandal, most of the penny-ante, none of them with any substance. Congressional investigations of every damn thing. Every time, Republicans unified in their outrage, Democrats wanting to appear fair, clutching our pearls, feeding their narrative.
It was like that the entire Clinton Presidency.
In 2001, Bush took over. Did a Vast Left Wing Conspiracy go to work?
No.
In 2006, we won back the House and Senate. Did we launch a series of Congressional investigations and committees, when we had things like 9/11, the Iraq WMD intelligence failure, warrantless wiretapping, and the collapse of the fucking economy to investigate? ACTUAL shit, not whether the Clintons were too friendly with real estate developers 15 years before.
No, we did not.
So, don’t give me that shit that we’d do the same as the Right, because we’ve demonstrated time and again that we DON’T.
re: #366 Belafon
Don’t remember all of it myself, but the important thing is the Dems sure worked it. Whether any Republicans wrung their hands in public or in private, I don’t remember. However, calling the meeting bad optics is only a way of downplaying it. I don’t have a problem with that. My beef is with the fact that the meeting actually took place. You can protest that the Republican reaction is bullshit until the cows come home, but that doesn’t make it bullshit. It was a dumb think to do.
re: #377 Targetpractice
That was a refutation of the idea that the Clintons should live like a couple of monks, not an endorsement of it.
Not boarding a private plane for a 30 minute conversation with the AG is hardly living like a monk. Stop being so dramatic.
re: #371 Targetpractice
The media spent the 90s insisting that there was something to every conspiracy theory that the Republicans slung against the wall, from “Filegate” to “Travelgate” all the way back to Mena Airport. I always prefer Pierce’s name for it, “The Great Penis Hunt.” I should think by now we should be used to assuming the media will always spin the actions of a Clinton in the worst possible way and deal with that, rather than assuming there’s something to the media’s reaction.
That Clinton’s coverage has been overwhelmingly negative is now a demonstrable fact, there has been a recent study about that. That said, there’s avoidable harm and there’s unavoidable harm. E.g. whatever position Clinton takes on, say, TPP, she will be criticized, that’s unavoidable. Bill not talking to Lynch? Easy to avoid, unnecessary.
As to the issue of “wringing of the hands”. I agree that the visible Dem “talking heads” and pols should either shut up or fully defend Bill on this rather than providing MBF fodder. This is good politics.
Whether “small people” can acknowledge this as a political mistake on an internet forum is another matter.
re: #374 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
What refs? There are no rules here. Thy’re fighting over the news cycle. They had a chance to keep things like the Benghazi report, Trumps charity fraud front and center and they threw up on themselves instead. Ask yourself, what good reason did Bill have to do something so shithead stupid as meet with the AG privately on an airplane? Lynch may not be the savviest politician, but Bill knows better.
The news cycle IS the refs.
Minneapolis students wounded after drunken gunman opens fire while screaming ‘f*ck Muslims’ https://t.co/bKs91BKWQ4 pic.twitter.com/L31m2OpLOE
— Raw Story (@RawStory) July 1, 2016
re: #372 lawhawk
Oh, OK, just tell the FBI to shut it all down. Thank you for your help.
re: #387 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Oh, OK, just tell the FBI to shut it all down. Thank you for your help.
*rolls eyes*
“Nothing would go over my head….”
re: #377 Targetpractice
That was a refutation of the idea that the Clintons should live like a couple of monks, not an endorsement of it.
They are being held to a set of standards oddly absent in any discussion of Donald Trump. His excuse for many of his past statements is truly “I was not a politician or a candidate back then!”
re: #385 Blind Frog Belly White
The news cycle IS the refs.
Do you know what refs do? They enforce the rules to keep the game fair. Anybody look like they’re doing that in the media?
this is the gop nominee linking to the dumbest man on the internet https://t.co/mJfQxyP8wK
— John Whitehouse (@existentialfish) July 1, 2016
These crimes won’t be happening if I’m elected POTUS. Killer should have never been here. #AmericaFirst https://t.co/XDGKaj0ico
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2016
re: #389 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That excuse doesn’t seem to be working, does it? I can’t remember the last time I saw something positive about Trump, although I don’t follow Fox News. Is all that free coverage helping his poll numbers? Aren’t all kinds of stories coming out about his bogus charities, his fraudulent universities, his withheld tax returns, his racism, his misogyny, his shady business deals, his crooked campaign finances, or is the whole media world still aligned only against Clinton?
She was vetted…
.@SarahPalinUSA: “Splodey heads keep ‘splodin” https://t.co/RX3O84DasA
— POLITICO (@politico) July 1, 2016
LOL>So Apparently Trumps campaign gave his foreigner fundraising list to Trump SuperPACs & now they’re using it too https://t.co/kZTxuBvtiT
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 1, 2016
So Tim Watts is my new best friend in the Australian federal parliament. MP Tim Watts. Needless to say, we’re pals now because he’s getting bombarded by the Trump campaign asking for money to fight ‘Crooked Hillary’.
snip
They weren’t actually just from Trump. One was from the Trump campaign. The other was from a pro-Trump Super Pac called Crippled America PAC.
Now, normally (i.e., completely separate from anything to do with Trump) it would be entirely unremarkable that someone was getting fundraising emails both from a campaign and also Super PACs supporting the campaign. They’re likely both buying lists from the same vendor or even different vendors of likely Trump voters.
But remember, Tim is a foreign citizen and part of the government in another country. We’ve already speculated about the various ways all these foreign legislators could have ended up on Trump’s list. The more we’ve looked into it, it seems increasingly implausible that he got this list from a list vendor. Not impossible just not likely at all. It now seems more probable that the Trump Organization simply had these emails in some business related database and decided to dump them into the email hopper for the fundraising blitz or just found some site that had a zip file of foreign government officials and used that. As I’ve said, all of these possibilities are outlandish and ridiculous. But we know for a fact that he has and continues to spam members of Parliament in the UK, Australia, Canada, Denmark, Finland and Iceland and possibly others. So one of these completely preposterous set of facts has to be true.
And here’s where we get to coordination, which is a big no no.
re: #390 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Do you know what refs do? They enforce the rules to keep the game fair. Anybody look like they’re doing that in the media?
Years ago, they did. They actually fact-checked.
Then the Right started accusing them of “Liberal Bias”, and they bent over backwards to avoid the appearance of bias, and increasingly became mere stenographers.
Then cable news got going, and it became solely about getting viewers and clicks, and fact checking and actual unbiased reporting just don’t sell.
The refs have already been worked, but the Right knows that they need to keep beating the drum of bias, to prevent any vestige of ACTUAL fairness from creeping back in.
Can you imagine the constant sighs and pregnant pauses coming from the GOP VP search committee meetings?
re: #393 FormerDirtDart
She was vetted…
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Vetted by the same guy Trump hired to vet his VP candidates…
re: #374 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
What refs? There are no rules here..
Then stop acting like there are. Fight the framing…especially the one you’re holding.
re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth
Vetted by the same guy Trump hired to vet his VP candidates…
Why not go for political expediency and just name Palin as the VP candidate?
re: #383 blueraven
Not boarding a private plane for a 30 minute conversation with the AG is hardly living like a monk. Stop being so dramatic.
The bolded is why we’re even debating this, Lynch’s job title and the assumption that she cannot be divorced from such and act like a normal person. That she never stops being the AG, everything that happens in her life must be viewed through that prism, and thus any dealings she has with a friend must be treated as if there is some nefarious undercurrent to it.
re: #397 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Can you imagine the constant sighs and pregnant pauses coming from the GOP VP search committee meetings?
“We need someone with gravitas, someone who can reassure voters that the adults are in charge, someone with unimpeachable credibility with the American people, a history of public service. And that person will have to be honored to work with Mr. Trump.”
“HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!”
“Okay. Failing that, who do we have?”
re: #396 Blind Frog Belly White
You must remember salad days of journalism that I don’t. People have always been crucified by the press. Fact checkers are still out there, but most people aren’t interested in the facts.
re: #357 Belafon
How many Republicans would be going “Yeah, the optics were bad”?
Remember the U.S. Attorneys scandal? Bush and Gonzales fired 9 U.S. Atty’s because after 2 years of investigation they couldn’t find any voter fraud cases to prosecute. Gonzales staff was a bunch of Liberty U grads who had to resign, Gonzales “did not recall” more than 95 times in his one day of congressional testimony (this is probably the reason he couldn’t find a job at a law firm after leaving the AG’s office, he ended up teaching Poli Sci part-time at a community college)…
Meanwhile, not a single Republican thought “the optics” of the firings were bad. They called the investigation a witch hunt, the politics of personal destruction, a distraction from important business the Congress should be doing instead…
re: #404 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
You must remember salad days of journalism that I don’t. People have always been crucified by the press. Fact checkers are still out there, but most people aren’t interested in the facts.
Well, I am 58 years old, so I remember Walter Cronkite, the Huntley Brinkley Report, and a time when News divisions weren’t expected to be big money makers, but rather were seen as a public service.
re: #400 gwangung
Then stop acting like there are. Fight the framing…especially the one you’re holding.
I’m not the one who was saying there were refs. In fact, you quoted me saying there are no refs, so did you say I was acting like there are refs. Incoherence is the word you should be looking up right about now.
re: #391 lawhawk
Not expecting an answer.
@realDonaldTrump what about this guy?https://t.co/R0aFqUGLTt
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) July 1, 2016
re: #407 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I’m not the one who was saying there were refs. In fact, you quoted me saying there are no refs, so did you say I was acting like there are refs. Incoherence is the word you should be looking up right about now.
It’s like you never heard the phrase ‘Working the refs’.
re: #405 sagehen
Sounds a lot like this. Everything’s a witch hunt. In the meantime, everybody bemoaned the fact that the media didn’t inform us that there was no evidence of voter fraud while citing media reports showing that there was no voter fraud.
re: #409 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s like you never heard the phrase ‘Working the refs’.
Of course I’ve heard that phrase. My argument is that there are no refs to work! I’m not the one who thought there were refs to work.
re: #402 Targetpractice
The bolded is why we’re even debating this, Lynch’s job title and the assumption that she cannot be divorced from such and act like a normal person. That she never stops being the AG, everything that happens in her life must be viewed through that prism, and thus any dealings she has with a friend must be treated as if there is some nefarious undercurrent to it.
And once again, I am not questioning the substance of the meeting, just the wisdom of it.
We are not talking about just anybody. We are talking about Bill Clinton, former POTUS and husband of the Democratic party nominee. Please, are you trying really hard to be obtuse or does it come naturally?
Ah. Just another day at LGF.
Music to my ears, … eyes.
Thank you for your support! We will MAKE AMERICA SAFE AND GREAT AGAIN! #ImWithYou #AmericaFirst pic.twitter.com/ravfFT5UBE
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2016
“And here we see a few of @realDonaldTrump’s younger supporters” @TeamTrump
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 1, 2016
re: #413 Double Dumbass
When did you change your screenname? I often kicked around the idea of stealing your identity and calling myself C-note or something. (261 HZ, middle C)
re: #411 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Of course I’ve heard that phrase. My argument is that there are no refs to work! I’m not the one who thought there were refs to work.
You seem to be taking the term ‘refs’ far too literally.
What I’m saying is that the closest thing we have to referees in politics is the Press. That’s why the First Amendment is there. We on the Left have allowed the Right to cow the Press into its current role of stenographer, and we did it by trying to appear “fair” when there was any hint of a shadow of a suggestion of impropriety from our side.
And I’m saying it’s time we stop playing their game, or perhaps START playing their game. Push back when shit like this nothingburger comes up. Start demanding the Press do their fucking job, instead of giving up and declaring there are no refs.
From Balloon Juice:
“Headlines if he didn’t pop in to see Lynch:
“Clinton snubs AG Lynch. HRC indictment imminent.”“
Neo Nazis are orgasming over Trump
#Neonazi Gary Lauck is jubilant over attending Trump rally in Albuquerque, NM last month. #Trump #whitesupremacy pic.twitter.com/GtG9NogZmZ
— Marilyn Mayo (@MarilynMayo7) July 1, 2016
re: #412 blueraven
And once again, I am not questioning the substance of the meeting, just the wisdom of it.
We are not talking about just anybody. We are talking about Bill Clinton, former POTUS and husband of the Democratic party nominee. Please, are you trying really hard to be obtuse or does it come naturally?
You’re right, how silly of me, I cannot fathom how horrific it is that Bill Clinton cannot act like somebody other than Bill Clinton. That he should instead be acting as a lawyer, acting as if his wife is facing indictment and any interactions he has with any member of the DOJ could affect the impartiality of Hillary’s trial. So he should just sit at home and let the whole matter blow over, because the media will not find a negative way to spin such behavior.
NEWS: @HillaryClinton raised nearly $70m in June for @HFA, @TheDemocrats and state parties
— Josh Schwerin (@JoshSchwerin) July 1, 2016
re: #416 Blind Frog Belly White
When there’s dirt to be found, they’ll dig. You act like there’s no negative coverage of what the Republicans do, but I see it all the time. Again, I refer you to the loooong list of Trump stories coming out, the constant coverage of the GOP in dissarray, coverage of the Democratic sit-in, coverage of GOP gun restriction blocking, and so on. Heck, even coverage of Clinton’s 11 hour commission hearing was beneficial to her.
Dim Jim must be spooging his panties right about now.
These crimes won’t be happening if I’m elected POTUS. Killer should have never been here. #AmericaFirst https://t.co/XDGKaj0ico
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2016
re: #419 Targetpractice
That’s just childish. I didn’t see anybody say anything of the sort. You know what Bill Clinton should have done? Said “Hi, Loretta” and kept going.
re: #420 Kragar
But I bet the lower groups ONLY got $20M. We should probably start an investigation. //
re: #381 Blind Frog Belly White
Horseshit. I don’t know how old you are, so I can’t ask whether you remember the 1990s. Even before Bill took the oath, the Vast right Wing Conspiracy got to work. Bullshit scandal after bullshit scandal, most of the penny-ante, none of them with any substance. Congressional investigations of every damn thing. Every time, Republicans unified in their outrage, Democrats wanting to appear fair, clutching our pearls, feeding their narrative.
It was like that the entire Clinton Presidency.
In 2001, Bush took over. Did a Vast Left Wing Conspiracy go to work?
No.
In 2006, we won back the House and Senate. Did we launch a series of Congressional investigations and committees, when we had things like 9/11, the Iraq WMD intelligence failure, warrantless wiretapping, and the collapse of the fucking economy to investigate? ACTUAL shit, not whether the Clintons were too friendly with real estate developers 15 years before.
No, we did not.
So, don’t give me that shit that we’d do the same as the Right, because we’ve demonstrated time and again that we DON’T.
This x100. I do remember the 90s, it was exactly like this, and by the time of Clinton’s impeachment I thought he was completely justified in lying to Congress about the blow jobs because the questions never should have been asked in the first place.
It should also be noted that when the Democrats get the spine and energy to actually go after Republicans, there are numerous real issues to work with, as opposed to partisan nothing burgers.
re: #424 Belafon
Bernie must be horrified.
How’s about this: We wait for there to be negative fallout before we react to the possibility that there will be negative fallout? Because the more noise we make about the latter, the more likely we make the former. If there’s no moaning and pearl clutching, then the dog barks but the caravan moves on. I’ve lost track of the number of stories about nothingburgers that had more to say about “even Democrats” than the actual nothingburger that’s supposed to be catching our attention.
re: #418 The Vicious Babushka
Neo Nazis are orgasming over Trump
Would it be too tacky to run a Trump ad with Nazi and KKK flags behind him?
An Attack in Bangladesh’s Capital https://t.co/huQTJEpNVC
— Blogs of War (@BlogsofWar) July 1, 2016
International area
re: #421 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
When there’s dirt to be found, they’ll dig. You act like there’s no negative coverage of what the Republicans do, but I see it all the time. Again, I refer you to the loooong list of Trump stories coming out, the constant coverage of the GOP in dissarray, coverage of the Democratic sit-in, coverage of GOP gun restriction blocking, and so on. Heck, even coverage of Clinton’s 11 hour commission hearing was beneficial to her.
Dude, Donald Trump’s campaign is spamming foreign politicians with requests for donations. This is not only illegal, it’s a sign of a truly magnificent level of incompetence. This should be big news.
But what do we see instead? The current Attorney General met with a former President while they happened to be in the same airport.
You’ve been marinating in this stuff so long you’ve come to believe that it’s fair, or reasonable, or balanced. I’m here to tell you it ain’t.
re: #423 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
That’s just childish. I didn’t see anybody say anything of the sort. You know what Bill Clinton should have done? Said “Hi, Loretta” and kept going.
Which only invites the question of why Bill Clinton would avoid his friend. “What’s he got to hide!?” would then be the rallying cry of the wingnuts.
Yes but did he already sign a lifetime non-diss contract?
Trump’s new digital strategist leaves campaign days after he was hired https://t.co/ojA1UHgn28 pic.twitter.com/gM6UEJyQ6C
— The Hill (@thehill) July 1, 2016
re: #425 EPR-radar
Disagree. There was never any justification to lie to Congress.
Also, the only way the Dems took back the House in 2006 was with a coalition of conservative Democratics (Blue Dogs). They could not have mounted the investigations because their own coalition would have fallen apart. It ultimately did anyway in 2010 during the great Democratic voter sleep in.
I saw Trump’s ad yesterday where he accuses the Clinton’s of spending other people’s money and then he begs for donations. Has anyone anywhere ran an ad begging for campaign donations? The ones I normally see either talk about the candidate, talk about the opponent, or talk about how awesome some stance will be. I’ve never seen them end with “give us money.”
Word on the street is that Milo is organizing a gay pride parade in Stockholm’s mostly Muslim neighborhoods next month
re: #387 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Way to completely miss the point. There isn’t a conflict of interest in the meeting, and the FBI can investigate to its heart’s content. Either the FBI finds something or they don’t. The decision to go ahead and prosecute rests with someone other than the principals at that meeting.
Now, the GOP wants to exploit the fact that they met. My response to that is BFD. There’s nothing to that meeting.
If we’re going to play by this GOP standard, then every time there’s an investigation in any federal department, the AG can’t talk to the president because they might act in some fashion to thwart the investigation? Or is it because we’re talking specifically about Hillary, whose actions are scrutinized more than anyone else in American political history except perhaps her husband.
Meanwhile, Trump’s tally of potential and actual criminal acts climbs, given his using charitable funds to buy personal items (sports memorabilia), lying on tax returns or engaging in tax evasion (which we can’t know for sure since he hasn’t released them while they’re under audit), soliciting donations from foreigners (including members of foreign governments), etc.
Each one of these would have destroyed any other political campaign on their own, and yet they just fade into the background with Trump.
It’s nuts.
re: #347 FormerDirtDart
MBAs are not smart people.
re: #434 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Disagree. There was never any justification to lie to Congress.
Also, the only way the Dems took back the House in 2006 was with a coalition of conservative Democratics (Blue Dogs). They could not have mounted the investigations because their own coalition would have fallen apart. It ultimately did anyway in 2010 during the great Democratic voter sleep in.
In much the same way that “moderate” Republicans like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins et al reined in the GOP.
Oh, wait. That didn’t happen.
re: #431 Blind Frog Belly White
If the Trump international donor thing isn’t big news, than why do we know so much about it?
re: #441 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
If the Trump international donor thing isn’t big news, than why do we know so much about it?
Because we read TPM.
re: #415 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
When did you change your screenname? I often kicked around the idea of stealing your identity and calling myself C-note or something. (261 HZ, middle C)
That’s my twitter name.
re: #437 lawhawk
“Meanwhile, Trump’s tally of potential and actual criminal acts climbs, given his using charitable funds to buy personal items (sports memorabilia), lying on tax returns or engaging in tax evasion (which we can’t know for sure since he hasn’t released them while they’re under audit), soliciting donations from foreigners (including members of foreign governments), etc.
Each one of these would have destroyed any other political campaign on their own, and yet they just fade into the background with Trump.”
They HAVE destroyed his campaign. Look at his poll numbers, look at his fundraising, look at the GOP try to come up with a way to kick him off the ticket.
I must be in New Mexico. It’s overcast and sprinkling and everyone keeps saying what a nice day it is. A guy from Arizona just asked me where to take a mountain bike ride.
re: #439 Blind Frog Belly White
In much the same way that “moderate” Republicans like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins et al reined in the GOP.
Oh, wait. That didn’t happen.
When the Democrats got control of Congress in 2006, one of their first acts was officially taking impeachment of GW Bush off the table.
Had Republicans taken over Congress 6 years into the administration of an unpopular Democratic president who had led the US into a war, their first official act would be filing articles of impeachment.
The two parties really are very different.
re: #442 Blind Frog Belly White
I listen to the big three on patient’s tvs in the hospital, so I keep hearing about the foreign fundraising scandal, although I don’t really get to turn around and watch. I don’t think I ever went on TPM.
re: #441 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
If the Trump international donor thing isn’t big news, than why do we know so much about it?
Here’s the front page of CNN.com’s politics section. Note the lead story, right there up front.
Now tell me how long it takes you to find the story on Trump’s campaign illegally soliciting donations from foreigners.
Real life keeps interfering with my virtual life.
re: #441 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
If the Trump international donor thing isn’t big news, than why do we know so much about it?
It is big news.
Thought experiment:
Two candidates send out solicitations to members of foreign governments and citizens in foreign countries seeking donations for their political campaigns.
Media response for candidate A is a shrug and adds to the background noise.
Media response for candidate B is circling sharks and demands that the candidate ends their campaign for clearly improper actions while calling for criminal investigations resulting in indictments and imprisonment.
Which candidate do you think is A and which is B.
A is Trump - where all his actions simply get dumped off as bumbling and incompetence (not exactly characteristics you want in a president and his staff).
B is Clinton.
This is the double standard we continue seeing with this campaign.
Take the Trump U donations resulting in investigations ending in FL and TX. Had it been Clinton, we’d be talking major corruption charges. With Trump?
Unknown number of people trapped at restaurant during attack in Bangladesh, police say. https://t.co/iZMaTuqZcp pic.twitter.com/8wdq4Cxn7d
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) July 1, 2016
@docrocktex26 Conservatives argue “Hillary is just another term of Obama! Do you really want that?” https://t.co/CJ8qq8c8iZ
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 1, 2016
re: #452 lawhawk
Jamaat-i-Islami fuckers won’t quit.
You don’t see this every day:
Tornado watch in effect until 10pm. Passing storms likely. Some could be severe https://t.co/zonDhsIGXq pic.twitter.com/wU08T5qRE3
— NY1 Weather (@NY1weather) July 1, 2016
Most of the NYC metro area is under a tornado watch thru 10PM tonight - extending from NYC into Northern NJ up into the Hudson Valley.
You ever consider that perhaps the reason the media keeps treating nothingburgers about the Clintons as a “BFD” is because we keep acting as if they’re a “BFD”?
re: #454 Ziggy_TARDIS
No doubt Trump knows who they are. /
re: #447 EPR-radar
I refer you to my post about the coalition the Dems formed to get the majority in the first place. In 2007, when the Congress was sworn in, impeachment was a moot point. W was a lame duck president and even if you found specific instances of crime by the President (which is not a lead pipe cinch) by the time you did all of that you would be swearing in President Cheney. So, I’m not surprised that impeachment was off the table.
re: #392 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
That excuse doesn’t seem to be working, does it? I can’t remember the last time I saw something positive about Trump, although I don’t follow Fox News. Is all that free coverage helping his poll numbers? Aren’t all kinds of stories coming out about his bogus charities, his fraudulent universities, his withheld tax returns, his racism, his misogyny, his shady business deals, his crooked campaign finances, or is the whole media world still aligned only against Clinton?
The broadcast media have discovered that Trump is ratings gold whether they are fawning over him or trashing him (by simply quoting him in context).
re: #457 lawhawk
They have been throwing a hissy fit since the government started prosecuting those responsible for the Genocide 45 years ago.
Wish they would ask Kississger to come over for questioning.
“In Iowa, one [GOP] insider called Trump’s organization ‘MIA.’ Another said it was ‘as small as his hands.’” pic.twitter.com/Xihb7y4ZlS
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) July 1, 2016
re: #455 lawhawk
You don’t see this every day:
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Most of the NYC metro area is under a tornado watch thru 10PM tonight - extending from NYC into Northern NJ up into the Hudson Valley.
Global weirding…
re: #455 lawhawk
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Most of the NYC metro area is under a tornado watch thru 10PM tonight - extending from NYC into Northern NJ up into the Hudson Valley.
Also, info shared in forums I frequent which NYites and NJites frequent. Thanx.
re: #449 Blind Frog Belly White
First of all, my argument is that the foreign donor story was big news because it was on the news outlets. News stories run their course, and so will this one. I have argued that it was a mistake for Bill Clinton to meet with Lynch. This is one big reason why. I have consistently said he should have just said Hi and moved on. In a way you’re making my argument for me.
This is what happens when you refuse to admit your team made a mistake. You wind up blaming somebody else, whether it’s the media or the GOP. When you refuse to admit a mistake, it will happen again. And your nothingburger will knock somebody else’s real story off the top of the page.
Speaking of nothingburgers, what is the actual harm (or punishment) for the Trump campaign to solicit foreign donations? What’s going to happen? The FEC isn’t going to keep him off the ballot. Sure, there is a lot of indignance and recoil, but what are the actual consequences? Little or none.
Exec Order on drone strikes also directs that US acknowledge responsibility for civilian casualties & offer condolences & compensation.
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) July 1, 2016
re: #458 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I refer you to my post about the coalition the Dems formed to get the majority in the first place. In 2007, when the Congress was sworn in, impeachment was a moot point. W was a lame duck president and even if you found specific instances of crime by the President (which is not a lead pipe cinch) by the time you did all of that you would be swearing in President Cheney. So, I’m not surprised that impeachment was off the table.
This isn’t really arguing against the point I made. Yes, the Democrats had sensible reasons to not impeach GW Bush (especially since there would have been no conviction in the Senate). However, Republicans in that same position would have impeached. They already did vs. Clinton and for less reason than starting an unpopular war.
This tidbit of news about the Cleveland Convention is just hilarious:
Bresler noted that firearms will be allowed in the “event zone” because of Ohio’s status as an open carry state, even though other more mundane items will be banned — from water guns to tape to sleeping bags.
Read more: politico.com
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“If your gun is loaded with water you cannot bring it into the event zone; only guns with bullets are allowed in the event zone!”
My trip to Sweden has been confirmed. Story going up in a moment. I am leading a gay pride march through one of Stockholm’s Muslim ghettos.
— Milo ✘ (@Nero) June 27, 2016
re: #459 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Haven’t seen much fawning. That seems to be happening at the viewers’ end.
Trump delegates:
White supremacists https://t.co/EUkXgPBfi1
Militia supporters https://t.co/jQ1pHtTByQ
Bringing guns https://t.co/u1A0bwvnMB— Mark Follman (@markfollman) July 1, 2016
re: #453 Kragar
Maybe we should be looking at becoming the 14th thru 69th Providence and/or Territory of Canada?
Instead of the other way-round…
re: #469 electrotek
Does MIlo have a point?
re: #467 EPR-radar
If you remember the Republicans only hurt themselves with the Clinton impeachment fiasco.
re: #474 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
If you remember the Republicans only hurt themselves with the Clinton impeachment fiasco.
Christ, I even remember at one point hearing Rush Limbaugh say it was time to back down and call off the dogs…if that ain’t warning enough.
re: #466 Franklin
I’m just going to say it.
Looking back at the span on human history, only 116 dead over a span of 6 years in collateral damage during a war is pretty fucking amazing.
re: #470 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Haven’t seen much fawning. That seems to be happening at the viewers’ end.
I recall last summer when CNN was fully on board.
Trump announces that his rallies are exciting while people are falling asleep at BUsh rallies.
15 minutes later CNN interviews a woman who fell asleep at a Jeb Bush rally.
Like he was handing them a script.
But the mood has soured since it is clear that Trump is not the least bit grateful for all the free advertising.
Mike Tyson Responds to @realDonaldTrump’s Convention Claim https://t.co/Rb4pYEKrxR
— Franklin (@franklinftw) July 1, 2016
re: #467 EPR-radar
Also, starting an unpopular war isn’t grounds for impeachment. Breaking the law is. In all these years I haven’t heard anybody come up with an actual impeachable offense by George W Bush. He chose his words very carefully. Surrogates misrepresented intelligence.
@JenniferJJacobs We should build a wall, and a canal. New Panamax capable canal, S.D. to Browsnvile. Build the wall from the canal spoil /s/
— FormerDirtDart (@FormerDirtDart) July 1, 2016
@danja84 @hasanthehun u can’t understand how scourge of Islamism in Muslim world is a bigger threat than attacks in Norway? #regressive
— Lionel the Lion (@Daregok) July 1, 2016
re: #480 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Also, starting an unpopular war isn’t grounds for impeachment. Breaking the law is. In all these years I haven’t heard anybody come up with an actual impeachable offense by George W Bush. He chose his words very carefully. Surrogates misrepresented intelligence.
Whatever you are arguing; the fact remains the republicans are always out for a witch hunt. They did it with Bill Clinton: Whitewater, Monica…a lot of bullshit. Now with Hillary over Benghazi and emails. Give me a break. There is no MBF here.
Toxic algae bloom crisis hits Florida, drives away tourists https://t.co/hYF66z8Cwt
— Tampa Bay Times (@TB_Times) July 1, 2016
Gov. Rick Scott has declared a state of emergency and blamed the federal government. Senators Bill Nelson and Marco Rubio have stopped by for photo ops and expressions of concern. And national TV and radio news crews are broadcasting to the country a clear warning: Stay away from Florida right now.
This economic and environmental disaster was cooked up in the stew pot that is Lake Okeechobee, where state officials have not required pollution limits to be met since the limits were created in 2001, according to Mark Perry, executive director of the Florida Oceanographic Society.
Disabled woman beaten bloody by TSA agents after becoming confused and afraid at security checkpoint
A disabled woman was beaten bloody by federal agents during an airport security screening while on her way to undergo treatment for a brain tumor.
Hannah Cohen set off the metal detector at a security checkpoint at the Memphis International Airport, and she was led away for additional screening, reported WREG-TV.
“They wanted to do further scanning, (but) she was reluctant — she didn’t understand what they were about to do,” said her mother, Shirley Cohen.
Cohen said she tried to tell agents with the Transportation Security Administration that her 19-year-old daughter is partially deaf, blind in one eye, paralyzed and easily confused — but she said police kept her away from the security agents.
The confused and terrified young woman tried to run away, her mother said, and agents violently took her to the ground.
“She’s trying to get away from them, but in the next instant, one of them had her down on the ground and hit her head on the floor,” Cohen said. “There was blood everywhere.”
re: #464 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
First of all, my argument is that the foreign donor story was big news because it was on the news outlets. News stories run their course, and so will this one. I have argued that it was a mistake for Bill Clinton to meet with Lynch. This is one big reason why. I have consistently said he should have just said Hi and moved on. In a way you’re making my argument for me.
This is what happens when you refuse to admit your team made a mistake. You wind up blaming somebody else, whether it’s the media or the GOP. When you refuse to admit a mistake, it will happen again. And your nothingburger will knock somebody else’s real story off the top of the page.
Speaking of nothingburgers, what is the actual harm (or punishment) for the Trump campaign to solicit foreign donations? What’s going to happen? The FEC isn’t going to keep him off the ballot. Sure, there is a lot of indignance and recoil, but what are the actual consequences? Little or none.
Here’s the thing - objectively, as Lawhawk has pointed out, the Clinton/Lynch meeting is a nothingburger. The history of the Clintons is a series of nothingburgers lovingly crafted by the Right Wing outrage cottage industry into SCANDALS!!!!!! The Left, not wanting to be seen as excusing corruption, went along with the need to ‘investigate’ all these things. Almost without exception, these were piddling little things, not only not scandals because they were bullshit, but not even scandals IF THEY WERE TRUE!
On the Right, you have huge failures of actual governance. 9/11 coming on the heels of the Bush Administration ignoring all the advice from Clinton’s FP folks that the problem was non-state actors like AQ, not states like Iraq; going to war over WMDs that didn’t exist; the President authorizing warrantless wiretapping and asserting the authority to do so without any other branch’s oversight; the near-collapse of the global banking system leading to the loss of 800,000 jobs a month for SIX MONTHS.
Whether the Dems, especially the Clintons, do anything, or nothing, the Right will cry ‘SCANDAL!!’ This ‘scandal’ is literally nothing, but it’s all over the news, top story everywhere. Meanwhile, the Trump Campaign illegally soliciting money from foreign politicians, and in fact CONTINUING to do so for days, gets a brief mention.
The Right doesn’t acknowledge even actual scandals, and it sure works for them. We jump at shadows of hints of suggestions of something maybe appearing to be inappropriate. How’s that working for us?
re: #483 blueraven
I don’t think I ever denied that there was a witchhunt. What I am questioning is the complicity of the media. Like it or not there is plenty of mistrust for Hillary Clinton. The email thing just fits right in there like a puzzle piece. It was a totally unforced error on her part when she set the system up (unnecessarily) that would inevitably bite her in the ass years later. So she gets no sympathy from me. If there is anybody to blame for distractions like this it isn’t the media, it is Hillary Clinton. I know nobody wants to accept that she could make a mistake, but there it is.
re: #458 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I refer you to my post about the coalition the Dems formed to get the majority in the first place. In 2007, when the Congress was sworn in, impeachment was a moot point. W was a lame duck president and even if you found specific instances of crime by the President (which is not a lead pipe cinch) by the time you did all of that you would be swearing in President Cheney. So, I’m not surprised that impeachment was off the table.
It might surprise you to know that Bill Clinton was a lame duck when Congress impeached him. Indeed, the timing of the impeachment of Bush would have almost exactly matched the impeachment of Clinton.
It wasn’t TIMING. It was that we don’t do that shit.
re: #464 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
First of all, my argument is that the foreign donor story was big news because it was on the news outlets. News stories run their course, and so will this one. I have argued that it was a mistake for Bill Clinton to meet with Lynch. This is one big reason why. I have consistently said he should have just said Hi and moved on. In a way you’re making my argument for me.
This is what happens when you refuse to admit your team made a mistake. You wind up blaming somebody else, whether it’s the media or the GOP. When you refuse to admit a mistake, it will happen again. And your nothingburger will knock somebody else’s real story off the top of the page.
Speaking of nothingburgers, what is the actual harm (or punishment) for the Trump campaign to solicit foreign donations? What’s going to happen? The FEC isn’t going to keep him off the ballot. Sure, there is a lot of indignance and recoil, but what are the actual consequences? Little or none.
So from here on out, openly soliciting presidential campaign donations from foreign politicians will be nothingburgers?
Good to know…
re: #485 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Disabled woman beaten bloody by TSA agents after becoming confused and afraid at security checkpoint
Why do I get the feeling that she was singled out for not being blonde and blue-eyed?
re: #489 Backwoods_Sleuth
So from here on out, openly soliciting presidential campaign donations from foreign politicians will be nothingburgers?
Good to know…
This is why we can’t have nice things.
re: #488 Blind Frog Belly White
Don’t quote me and then cherry pick only one point. There were multiple reasons not to seek impeachment of George W. Bush. The difference in the time frames is that in the 90s the republicans had a relatively easy to use case with the Lewinsky testimony. Didn’t take long to investigate. In 2007, the Dems would have been starting from scratch. You probably wouldn’t have articles before 2008. Judging by the way history has been written since then, even that would probably be optimistic.
Nobody is accusing me of land speed records but I’ll take my 14 minute mile, given that before Monday I’d never run five miles straight before. :D
Burned a lot more calories too.
re: #489 Backwoods_Sleuth
Come on, it’s politics. In th epublic, it’s the crime of the century. Legaslly, I really don’t think there are serious consequences. Sort of like the email. It’s a political thing, the actual legal consequences are trivial.
It literally doesn’t get anymore “aww, bless your heart” than this pic.twitter.com/tY5ZFk4j2n
— Mikey Neumann (@mikeyface) July 1, 2016
@HeerJeet Trump Gingrich sounds almost too much like a law firm in Dickens that repossesses peg legs from homeless veterans to be hoped for
— Ashton Kittredge (@AshtonKittredge) July 1, 2016
re: #490 Teukka
Why do I get the feeling that she was singled out for not being blonde and blue-eyed?
I have to wonder also if her father would have gotten more attention than her mother did.
re: #494 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Come on, it’s politics. In th epublic, it’s the crime of the century. Legaslly, I really don’t think there are serious consequences. Sort of like the email. It’s a political thing, the actual legal consequences are trivial.
ummmm….you are so wrong.
re: #413 Double Dumbass
Ah. Just another day at LGF.
Music to my ears, … eyes.
*Sees username, knows it’s b_sharp*
Been in meetings for the last 3 hours….has the FBI released their findings regarding Hillary’s emails?
This was odd: Trump points to a guy in the audience who apparently mentioned Turkey/is from there. “Are you friend or foe?”
— Ali Vitali (@alivitali) July 1, 2016
If this country is about anything, it’s about religious freedom and religious tolerance. We’re not going to accept Trump’s bigotry.
— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) July 1, 2016
You want religious people to have to serve same-sex weddings. https://t.co/qQH8r6yYzK
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) July 1, 2016
Actually, Li’l Whiplash, unequivocally yes, if they work at a restaurant or a catering company that is public facing, because, you know, equal access and all that constitutional stuff.
re: #494 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Come on, it’s politics. In th epublic, it’s the crime of the century. Legaslly, I really don’t think there are serious consequences. Sort of like the email. It’s a political thing, the actual legal consequences are trivial.
It is breaking the law to solicit foreign money.
re: #502 Kragar
[This was odd: Trump points to a guy in the audience who apparently mentioned Turkey/is from there. “Are you friend or foe?”]
Trump was probably asking in regard to the country more than the individual.
re: #492 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Don’t quote me and then cherry pick only one point. There were multiple reasons not to seek impeachment of George W. Bush. The difference in the time frames is that in the 90s the republicans had a relatively easy to use case with the Lewinsky testimony. Didn’t take long to investigate. In 2007, the Dems would have been starting from scratch. You probably wouldn’t have articles before 2008. Judging by the way history has been written since then, even that would probably be optimistic.
Here’s an important difference you seem to be ignoring - the Lewinsky lie was a perjury trap set up by irrelevant questioning during a deposition in a frivolous lawsuit that was dismissed in summary judgement, which was only ever filed because of the VRWC writing articles trying to discredit Clinton, leading to Paula Jones feeling like her virtue was called into question. Her legal bills were paid by Right Wing organizations, who found her lawyers for her. Those lawyers were working, not on HER behalf, but for the people paying for a scandal. The entire Right Wing, from pundits to ‘think tanks’ to the halls of Congress worked together to try and find ANYTHING to take Clinton down, from before his inauguration. Read “Blinded By The Right”, if you think I’m exaggerating.
The thing is, that’s not something we do. We didn’t impeach Bush, even though there were much better grounds, because that’s not something we do.
re: #504 blueraven
It is breaking the law to solicit foreign money.
Both sides, etc., etc.
This is why I won’t actually contribute to the noise about the meeting. Maybe it’s not what I would have done, but it’s done. Shrug and move on. The time and energy spent debating whether or not it was a good idea is better spent, IMO, by pointing out the flaws of the opponent.
Armchair quarterbacking should be saved for Monday morning.
re: #502 Kragar
Fuck that rat-wearing spunktrumpet.
re: #503 The Vicious Babushka
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Actually, Li’l Whiplash, unequivocally yes, if they work at a restaurant or a catering company that is public facing, because, you know, equal access and all that constitutional stuff.
God he’s an idiot.
re: #485 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Disabled woman beaten bloody by TSA agents after becoming confused and afraid at security checkpoint
Horrible picture at the link.
TSA was a poorly thought-out, knee-jerk response to 9-11. Odd how Republicans clamored for this wholesale federal take-over of what had been a local, even private, responsibility.
#WATCH: Taj Mahal casino workers in Atlantic City strike as crowds flock to the shore for busy July 4th weekend. https://t.co/fFYaHvaYrI
— Jan Carabeo (@JanCarabeoCBS3) July 1, 2016
Workers on strike at Trump’s hotel in Atlantic City. https://t.co/9PWxPSuUi2
— WI AFL-CIO (@wisaflcio) July 1, 2016
Strikers at Trump Taj Mahal chanting, “Shame. Shame. Shame on Icahn!” @Carl_C_Icahn owns the Taj. pic.twitter.com/Kj5WKjkQy2
— Amy S. Rosenberg (@amysrosenberg) July 1, 2016
Taj statement : employees “seem hell bent on trying to close this property.” pic.twitter.com/X8LMxPeSB8
— Amy S. Rosenberg (@amysrosenberg) July 1, 2016
re: #503 The Vicious Babushka
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Actually, Li’l Whiplash, unequivocally yes, if they work at a restaurant or a catering company that is public facing, because, you know, equal access and all that constitutional stuff.
How do you suppose he’d respond if a baker said, “No, I’m sorry. We won’t sell you a wedding cake because we’re Christians and our religion doesn’t let us serve Jews”?
I imagine he’d be pretty upset. Probably sue them. And he’d be right to do so.
re: #513 Blind Frog Belly White
How do you suppose he’d respond if a baker said, “No, I’m sorry. We won’t sell you a wedding cake because we’re Christians and our religion doesn’t let us serve Jews”?
I imagine he’d be pretty upset. Probably sue them. And he’d be right to do so.
Its homophobia rather than religion anyway. Ever hear of a baker refusing to bake a wedding cake for a divorced person’s second marriage, even though Jesus expressly stated that its adultery?
re: #513 Blind Frog Belly White
How do you suppose he’d respond if a baker said, “No, I’m sorry. We won’t sell you a wedding cake because we’re Christians and our religion doesn’t let us serve Jews”?
I imagine he’d be pretty upset. Probably sue them. And he’d be right to do so.
Exactly. Oh and Kim Davis herself too- “Sorry we refuse to give marriage certificates to divorcees whose marriages were ended because of their adultery.” It’s typical “Liberty for me but not for thee.” There’s no such thing as a “Christian baker” or “Christian florist” but rather a baker or florist who happens to be Christian. You’re offering secular goods for the wedding that happens to be legal in your country. Don’t want to have to do business with gay people? Don’t have a service that provides goods for married couples. Simple as that.
We need to take America back to the days when the nicest thing you could bring to a party was a Jello mold with mayonnaise and olives on top
— McDonald’s Retriever (@jesseltaylor) July 1, 2016
re: #508 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Armchair quarterbacking should be saved for Monday morning.
Nooooo! Monday is a holiday!
/
re: #507 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
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re: #514 Big Beautiful Door
Its homophobia rather than religion anyway. Ever hear of a baker refusing to bake a wedding cake for a divorced person’s second marriage, even though Jesus expressly stated that its adultery?
No, you never do. It’s definitely homophobia. It’s always been about homophobia. Ben’s such a useful idiot for the Christian Right.
re: #163 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Alternatively, someone has played Chuck and his so-called private eye for suckers and sold them a draft that Malik Obama never saw or owned.
That’s what I originally thought when someone mentioned that he paid 15 large for it.
re: #511 Shiplord Kirel
Horrible picture at the link.
TSA was a poorly thought-out, knee-jerk response to 9-11. Odd how Republicans clamored for this wholesale federal take-over of what had been a local, even private, responsibility.
TSA was an attempt to replace highly decentralized and uneven security at airports and tried to standardize training, methods, and screening.
It hasn’t gone according to plan because it costs money to do those things properly, and from day 1 it’s been an uphill battle to train people properly so that you have enough people to do the tasks at hand, and everyone hates the myriad rules in place (shoes, liquids, etc.)
What makes it worse is that airlines aren’t helping matters by charging for checked baggage, forcing people to go with carryons that need to be screened while passengers are being processed thru the checkpoints. That’s additional delays. Airlines wont give up the baggage fees, but there should be a rationalization of fees - higher fees for carry on, and lower fee for checked. Get more people to check luggage, and you can then focus on people, since the bags are screened separately. Lines and scrutiny then is based on bags being brought on board, and you don’t have any many people trying to cram as much in the cabin.
Rare Chinese vase used as door-stop in Birmingham home auctioned for £650,000 https://t.co/p4zqXr2v3v pic.twitter.com/JU9s19Ef13
— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) July 1, 2016
Watching someone sell his soul is depressing. https://t.co/GOeXmhRKhd
— John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) July 1, 2016
And utterly predictable. Newt so badly wants to be VP, he’s willing to say/do anything. That means even getting Trump his meals for him, replacing Reek Christie as head Gimp.
re: #523 lawhawk
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John’s first mistake is assuming Newt had a soul to sell in the first place. He’s always been a hack.
re: #523 lawhawk
Newt a few days ago.
The irony is uber-ironic…
Gingrich: “There’s this feeling around the world that the establishment’s corrupt, the establishment has failed.” pic.twitter.com/l07JuqwNUs
— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 29, 2016
re: #526 Backwoods_Sleuth
Newt a few days ago.
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Expect Newt to dye his hair blonde and start wearing orange make-up soon.
re: #508 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Both sides, etc., etc.
This is why I won’t actually contribute to the noise about the meeting. Maybe it’s not what I would have done, but it’s done. Shrug and move on. The time and energy spent debating whether or not it was a good idea is better spent, IMO, by pointing out the flaws of the opponent.
Armchair quarterbacking should be saved for Monday morning.
My depth of feeling on this comes from watching it all my life. It has developed over that time, and if you look at Americans’ views about the various institutions of society, you see us going from largely trusting the President, the Congress, the Courts, and the Press to cynical distrust of everything.
We on the left have collaborated in this, by allowing nothingburgers to be inflated into SCANDALS!!!!!. We jump at shadows. Look at poor Shirley Sherrod - fired by the Department of Agriculture over a video edited to convey the exact opposite of the truth.
I’m sick and tired of it. It’s time we stop dancing to their tune, because all our good intentions only seem to help them.
Seeing Gov Pence’s name yesterday as a possibility for Trump’s VP is pretty damned scary because THAT is someone most of the GOP can support.
re: #527 wrenchwench
eh, right. Sorry. It’s even on my calendar.
We’re celebrating how much America wants to be just like us.
I’ve noticed Americans apologizing more lately.
re: #514 Big Beautiful Door
Its homophobia rather than religion anyway. Ever hear of a baker refusing to bake a wedding cake for a divorced person’s second marriage, even though Jesus expressly stated that its adultery?
Oh, of course. Nothing in the Bible requires anyone to be a dick. It’s just an excuse.
re: #523 lawhawk
And utterly predictable. Newt so badly wants to be VP, he’s willing to say/do anything. That means even getting Trump his meals for him, replacing Reek Christie as head Gimp.
I had the image of the Heath Ledger Joker breaking the pool stick apart and telling the guys that he can only take one of them.
re: #520 Eric The Fruit Bat
That’s what I originally thought when someone mentioned that he paid 15 large for it.
A fool and their money is soon parted. And there’s not much of a bigger fool that UpChuck.
re: #531 Double Dumbass
We’re celebrating how much America wants to be just like us.
I’ve noticed Americans apologizing more lately.
Sorry, won’t happen again.
Trump: “Turkey should be fighting ISIS. I hope to see Turkey go out and fight ISIS.” (already part of anti-ISIS coalition.)
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) July 1, 2016
re: #531 Double Dumbass
We’re celebrating how much America wants to be just like us.
I’ve noticed Americans apologizing more lately.
OBAMA APOLOGY TOUR!!11!!ELEVENTY!!!11
re: #533 Belafon
I had the image of the Heath Ledger Joker breaking the pool stick apart and telling the guys that he can only take one of them.
“We’re gonna have…tryouts.”
heh
“All the sunflower seeds are going to the top 1%!” pic.twitter.com/ATVhX90g4h
— Philip Lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) July 1, 2016
re: #529 Blind Frog Belly White
My depth of feeling on this comes from watching it all my life. It has developed over that time, and if you look at Americans’ views about the various institutions of society, you see us going from largely trusting the President, the Congress, the Courts, and the Press to cynical distrust of everything.
We on the left have collaborated in this, by allowing nothingburgers to be inflated into SCANDALS!!!!!. We jump at shadows. Look at poor Shirley Sherrod - fired by the Department of Agriculture over a video edited to convey the exact opposite of the truth.
I’m sick and tired of it. It’s time we stop dancing to their tune, because all our good intentions only seem to help them.
This is how I see it as well. Another good example of this was the Wisconsin recall vote, where there was apparently a significant block of voters who didn’t like Scott Walker, but also didn’t think recalling him was a good idea. That’s total nonsense.
hmmmmm. https://t.co/khqwXhdvLV
— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) July 1, 2016
I agree with Democrats Kerry and Baucus that we should pass the US-Colombia Free Trade Act. Their oped: bit.ly
— Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) April 4, 2011
Newt needs to start scrubbing his twitter TL….
STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Why does asshole no-talent Branco think “Liberals” don’t celebrate Independence Day? Did Baby Whiplash aka Asscrack The Insignificant tell him?
This 4th of July have a safe and Happy Independence Day #FourthOfJulyWeekend #RedNationRising #ccot #PJNET #tcot pic.twitter.com/JI0qec3Opi
— ✨ Lexi ✨ (@MisLexi1) July 1, 2016
re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth
But how do they know who to shoot if they don’t say “Radical Islamic Terrorists”? @ZeddRebel
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 1, 2016
A tornado watch has been issued for parts of CT, MA, NJ, NY, PA, VT until 10 PM EDT pic.twitter.com/EVzywzEXe0
— NWS Tornado (@NWStornado) July 1, 2016
Quite the milling throng…
.@realDonaldTrump says it’s always packed house for him.. not this time. pic.twitter.com/bTHUQv9F51
— Shaun Boyd (@CBS4Shaun) July 1, 2016
Donald Trump could do a lot to defeat ISIS. For instance, he could lose in a huge landslide. #WCS16
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) July 1, 2016
re: #547 Kragar
Quite the milling throng…
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If you look closely you’ll see Corey Lewandowski holding a boombox over his head #WCS16 pic.twitter.com/EViPx0q9Se
— The Baxter Bean (@TheBaxterBean) July 1, 2016
Here’s an interesting thought experiment. Imagine the coverage the main stream media would provide to a Democratic POTUS candidate as oafish as Trump that somehow stumbles and bumbles his way to being the presumptive nominee.
re: #550 EPR-radar
Here’s an interesting thought experiment. Imagine the coverage the main stream media would provide to a Democratic POTUS candidate as oafish as Trump that somehow stumbles and bumbles his way to being the presumptive nominee.
Well, William Jennings Bryan—but we didn’t have television in those days….
re: #517 wrenchwench
Nooooo! Monday is a holiday!
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I’ll be up in the mountains, slowly inching my way back downhill.
Gov. Maggie Hassan just made it illegal for the NH govt to discriminate against trans people https://t.co/caJGChIAaR
— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) July 1, 2016
re: #550 EPR-radar
Here’s an interesting thought experiment. Imagine the coverage the main stream media would provide to a Democratic POTUS candidate as oafish as Trump that somehow stumbles and bumbles his way to being the presumptive nominee.
It would be brutal; unless, like Bernie, the candidate was running against Clinton.
For the first time in U.S. history, a bike share rider has been killed. In Chicago. Hit by a truck. https://t.co/VcKevF1ECq
— Peter Flax (@Pflax1) July 1, 2016
re: #269 Franklin
This will happen to my dog sooner or later….
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He’s lucky he didn’t suffocate.
re: #552 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I’ll be up in the mountains, slowly inching my way back downhill.
No armchair, no quarterbacking. Sound good. Breathe deep, stay surefooted.
re: #326 sagehen
How’d he get back? Did he have to swim?
He jumps, he swims. It’s only about 100 feet out to the end of that little rock island when the tide is in. I call it his diving board.
re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m not saying Trump’s hands are small but he can only greet someone with a high three @DonCheadle @RealDLHughley
— Paul Lander (@paul_lander) July 1, 2016
re: #552 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I’ll be up in the mountains, slowly inching my way back downhill.
You could have Mr. Klys belay you as you come down the trail. That would make people look twice. ;)
Trump started his Denver speech with an ode to teleprompters, something he called to ban a year ago: pic.twitter.com/WSv6yCSKUR
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) July 1, 2016
re: #523 lawhawk
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And utterly predictable. Newt so badly wants to be VP, he’s willing to say/do anything. That means even getting Trump his meals for him, replacing Reek Christie as head Gimp.
Wait—when exactly did Newt have a soul?
Speaking of rightwing lies, this inflammatory, terrorist inciting bullshit is back:
WHILE NOBODY WAS PAYING ATTENTION, KERRY SIGNS U.N. GUN BAN TREATY
It is gospel among RWNJs that the as-yet unratified treaty requires a national register of guns and gun owners. It does no such thing. It requires a register of importers and exporters. The RWNJ propagandists who push the lie know that most of their audience will never look at the referenced Article 5 to see what it really says.
Snopes: U.N. Arms Trade Treaty
A U.N. small arms treaty signed by the U.S. provides a ‘legal way around the 2nd Amendment’?
FALSE
The linked freeper string is a prime example of the dangerous, foaming at the mouth gullibility of the ammosexual hordes. I think the Bundy uprising disposed of the occasional objection I got here that these people are not sincere enough to act on their lunatic beliefs. Most of them, admittedly, are just posturing blowhards, but in a population of millions, there would still potentially be thousands to take action if they are pushed over the edge.
I think we might see it in Cleveland.
re: #506 Blind Frog Belly White
Here’s an important difference you seem to be ignoring - the Lewinsky lie was a perjury trap set up by irrelevant questioning during a deposition in a frivolous lawsuit that was dismissed in summary judgement, which was only ever filed because of the VRWC writing articles trying to discredit Clinton, leading to Paula Jones feeling like her virtue was called into question. Her legal bills were paid by Right Wing organizations, who found her lawyers for her. Those lawyers were working, not on HER behalf, but for the people paying for a scandal. The entire Right Wing, from pundits to ‘think tanks’ to the halls of Congress worked together to try and find ANYTHING to take Clinton down, from before his inauguration. Read “Blinded By The Right”, if you think I’m exaggerating.
The thing is, that’s not something we do. We didn’t impeach Bush, even though there were much better grounds, because that’s not something we do.
I’ll try to hang around a bit, but what exactly would we impeach George W. Bush for? You can’t just say because of the war, you need a specific high crime or misdemeanor to impeach. For Clinton they used that flimsy perjury charge. You just can’t walk in and say “impeach the bastard!” You need something specific.
re: #531 Double Dumbass
We’re celebrating how much America wants to be just like us.
I’ve noticed Americans apologizing more lately.
Unlike you folks up north we have so more to be apologizing for of late.
re: #526 Backwoods_Sleuth
Newt a few days ago.
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Note the identifying (grifters-are-us) chyron.
re: #563 Shiplord Kirel
Speaking of rightwing lies, this inflammatory, terrorist inciting bullshit is back:
WHILE NOBODY WAS PAYING ATTENTION, KERRY SIGNS U.N. GUN BAN TREATYIt is gospel among RWNJs that the as-yet unratified treaty requires a national register of guns and gun owners. It does no such thing. It requires a register of importers and exporters. The RWNJ propagandists who push the lie know that most of their audience will never look at the referenced Article 5 to see what it really says.
Snopes: U.N. Arms Trade TreatyThe linked freeper string is a prime example of the dangerous, foaming at the mouth gullibility of the ammosexual hordes. I think the Bundy uprising disposed of the occasional objection I got here that these people are not sincere enough to act on their lunatic beliefs. Most of them, admittedly, are just posturing blowhards, but in a population of millions, there would still potentially be thousands to take action if they are pushed over the edge.
I think we might see it in Cleveland.
Thank dog it was Kerry and not his predecessor.
re: #560 calochortus
You could have Mr. Klys belay you as you come down the trail. That would make people look twice. ;)
His responsibility is to walk about 6 feet in front of me, blocking my view of the remainder of the downhill so I can concentrate only on the section I am putting my feet on.
That’s what sort of helped the last time.
The hiking poles are packed, and I’ve analyzed the elevation profile about 6 ways from Sunday, so hopefully I can keep the anxiety down and enjoy this. Bringing the good camera, so I should have some spectacular photos for folks from the High Sierras - we’re probably going to do a day hike into the Kings Canyon wilderness on Sunday.
re: #563 Shiplord Kirel
Eegad! One audacious freeper has dared to challenge the hysterical gun treaty post:
It’s a stupid blog post stolen from a 2013 Fox News story:
re: #568 klys (maker of Silmarils)
His responsibility is to walk about 6 feet in front of me, blocking my view of the remainder of the downhill so I can concentrate only on the section I am putting my feet on.
That’s what sort of helped the last time.
The hiking poles are packed, and I’ve analyzed the elevation profile about 6 ways from Sunday, so hopefully I can keep the anxiety down and enjoy this. Bringing the good camera, so I should have some spectacular photos for folks from the High Sierras - we’re probably going to do a day hike into the Kings Canyon wilderness on Sunday.
Have a great time.
I am very prone to motion sickness and have become somewhat phobic about it. A sense of control is key in managing it, so I think your foreknowledge of the trail and an understanding husband will go a long way in helping you. As will keeping your eyes on the trail.
re: #571 calochortus
Have a great time.
I am very prone to motion sickness and have become somewhat phobic about it. A sense of control is key in managing it, so I think your foreknowledge of the trail and an understanding husband will go a long way in helping you. As will keeping your eyes on the trail.
Since we’re walking in the same way we’re coming out, I’ll have a pretty good idea of what I’m in for on Monday starting Saturday. But he at least understands and so doesn’t get irritated when the pace slows a lot as we head downhill.
I’m probably one of the few people who prefers to hike uphill and hates the downhill sections.
Salmon day today. Only brined for 2 hours. Everyone here was hungry. I remembered halfway through the first filet to take a pic. That one was just brined, with no extra seasoning. The bottom one had a sweet/spicy rub applied lightly straight on the Pit Barrel Cooker. It was all gone in minutes between 4 of us.
BBC: EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit
This is a huge deal: according to the article, the negotiations for trade with the EU can only happen AFTER the UK leaves the EU-it can’t happen in parallel:
The European Union’s top trade official says the UK cannot begin negotiating terms for doing business with the bloc until after it has left.
“First you exit then you negotiate,” Cecilia Malmstrom told BBC Newsnight.
After Brexit, the UK would become a “third country” in EU terms, she said - meaning trade would be carried out based on World Trade Organisation rules until a new deal was complete.
A recent trade deal with Canada took seven years to negotiate.
The Canadian agreement will also require ratification by all EU countries, adding another one to two years before it takes effect.
WTO rules restrict the circumstances in which countries discriminate in favour of each other in trade. Otherwise, they must apply to each other the tariffs they apply against the rest of the world.
Ms Malmstrom, the EU Trade Commissioner, underlined that detailed talks to shape the UK’s new trading relationship with the EU should not start until after the process of leaving politically, under an Article 50 process lasting up to two years.
“There are actually two negotiations. First you exit, and then you negotiate the new relationship, whatever that is,” she said.
It’s no wonder everyone is running scared to take the PM lead-once Article 50 is invoked, the UK will still have to abide by the EU rules, but at the end of the two year window (barring extension, but I doubt the rest of the EU will be willing to grant that) it’s an automatic exit and the UK will be forced to abide by the rules of the WTO.
re: #572 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Mr. w was a mountain climber in his youth.
I’m probably one of the few people who prefers to hike uphill and hates the downhill sections.
There are LOTS of you.
A question for all the more tech savvy Lizards (which means virtually everyone…)
I don’t understand how password managers are particularly secure. If it’s easy for me to use all my passwords, doesn’t that mean it would be easy to steal the lot of them? Or if they are stored in the computer, if the computer is stolen, don’t my passwords go with it?
I’m ready to quit fussing around with lists of IDs and passwords, but I don’t see how this would all work. Things are often all nice and secure until suddenly they aren’t.
re: #564 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I’ll try to hang around a bit, but what exactly would we impeach George W. Bush for? You can’t just say because of the war, you need a specific high crime or misdemeanor to impeach. For Clinton they used that flimsy perjury charge. You just can’t walk in and say “impeach the bastard!” You need something specific.
But, you see, the Republicans had been wanting to impeach Clinton from the day he took office. Calls for his impeachment - from sitting Congressmen - started within his first year in office. The GOP Congress ran investigation after investigation after investigation, looking for ANYTHING to impeach him for.
By contrast, when the Dems took over Congress in 2007, they didn’t even pursue investigations into any of the things I’ve pointed to.
Consider - there have been NINE investigations into Benghazi. There was ONE into 9/11, and it was nothing like the partisan shit-show that the Benghazi investigations were.
Why? Because that’s not something we do.
If Trump selects Gingrich as VP, it’ll prove the adage that Gingrich is the type of man dumb people consider intelligent.
— Nick Mamatas (@NMamatas) July 1, 2016
re: #577 Blind Frog Belly White
But, you see, the Republicans had been wanting to impeach Clinton from the day he took office. Calls for his impeachment - from sitting Congressmen - started within his first year in office. The GOP Congress ran investigation after investigation after investigation, looking for ANYTHING to impeach him for.
By contrast, when the Dems took over Congress in 2007, they didn’t even pursue investigations into any of the things I’ve pointed to.
Consider - there have been NINE investigations into Benghazi. There was ONE into 9/11, and it was nothing like the partisan shit-show that the Benghazi investigations were.
Why? Because that’s not something we do.
I’m well aware of the GOP desire to remove Clinton. My question is not about impeaching him. You argue that impeaching is just something we don’t do, as if there were a choice of whether or not to impeach. My question therefore is what articles of impeachment did the Democratic House decline to pursue in 2007? I argue that there were none because nobody could then (or now) point to a specific act by President Bush that would have made impeachment a possibility.
Edited to add: The dems had to form a coalition that included conservatives in order to take back the House. I think that not pursuing a bunch of investigations was probably the price of that coalition.
Who remembers when Fox News reported about Trump’s son-in-law’s father serving in prison for illegal campaign donations, tax evasion and witness tampering? Me neither.
Hillary sought secret EU info as son-in-law’s doomed hedge fund gambled on Greece https://t.co/FlqSz2piWx pic.twitter.com/TBbv9e8CKB
— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 1, 2016
re: #572 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I’m probably one of the few people who prefers to hike uphill and hates the downhill sections.
I’m with you on that.
re: #548 Backwoods_Sleuth
Why Some Jihadists Consider Donald Trump To Be The Perfect Enemy @TPM https://t.co/sqCBxAQS19
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) July 1, 2016
re: #572 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It takes more energy, but going uphill is easier than going down. What is the old blessing: May the ground rise up to meet you.
re: #579 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I’m well aware of the GOP desire to remove Clinton. My question is not about impeaching him. You argue that impeaching is just something we don’t do, as if there were a choice of whether or not to impeach. My question therefore is what articles of impeachment did the Democratic House decline to pursue in 2007? I argue that there were none because nobody could then (or now) point to a specific act by President Bush that would have made impeachment a possibility.
Your question indicates you’re really just not getting it, at all.
The GOP were angling for impeachment from the time Clinton took office. Similarly for Obama. The Democrats, by contrast, did no such thing to Bush.
Whether or not one could imagine a reasonable case for impeachment is not relevant to the point. The Democrats DIDN’T EVEN GO LOOKING FOR ONE, whereas the Republicans ALWAYS TRY TO FIND ONE.
Is that a little clearer? Because I don’t think I’m making an obscure point, so your failure to grasp it is surprising.
Was this this on a teleprompter? Because it’s his typical rambling, repetitive, make shit up on the fly.
A remarkable bit from today, in which Trump discusses battling ISIS, Patton, NATO, elections and waterboarding: pic.twitter.com/oT3SEwODSp
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) July 1, 2016
re: #577 Blind Frog Belly White
what exactly would we impeach George W. Bush for?
1, Approving torture (waterboarding, forcible sodomy) which violates the 6th am, the Geneva convention and is also a war crime.
2. Manufacturing evidence in order to start a war under false pretenses.
3. Politicizing the Justice Department to go after enemies and go soft on allies and firing US Attorneys who refused to comply.
re: #574 Eric The Fruit Bat
BBC: EU Trade Commissioner: No trade talks until full Brexit
This is a huge deal: according to the article, the negotiations for trade with the EU can only happen AFTER the UK leaves the EU-it can’t happen in parallel:
Boy, they screwed themselves Royally (so to speak), didn’t they. That may be the cover Commons need to never invoke Article 50.
re: #564 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I’ll try to hang around a bit, but what exactly would we impeach George W. Bush for? You can’t just say because of the war, you need a specific high crime or misdemeanor to impeach. For Clinton they used that flimsy perjury charge. You just can’t walk in and say “impeach the bastard!” You need something specific.
We tried WWII war criminals for waterboarding; how about that?
re: #584 Blind Frog Belly White
I grasp your argument just fine. I made the argument that there would be no impeachment based on three premises. First, time was short and W would be out of office before the process went to completion. Second, the coalition that included conservative democrats wouldn’t (couldn’t) go ahead with it (along with investigations), and finally that there were no specific grounds for impeachment. That third one I think is distinctly at odds with your opinion that impeachment is something Democrats are above. I don’t believe that for a second. (However I do believe they would at least have some threshold, unlike the Republicans). I still can’t get an answer from those who think President Bush could /should have been impeached about what exactly he did that was the impeachable offense. Even if you believe the noble Democrats eschewed impeachment, that implies that there was a charge that made the president impeachable.
re: #576 calochortus
A question for all the more tech savvy Lizards (which means virtually everyone…)
I don’t understand how password managers are particularly secure. If it’s easy for me to use all my passwords, doesn’t that mean it would be easy to steal the lot of them? Or if they are stored in the computer, if the computer is stolen, don’t my passwords go with it?
I’m ready to quit fussing around with lists of IDs and passwords, but I don’t see how this would all work. Things are often all nice and secure until suddenly they aren’t.
They’re encrypted & protected by a password.
CNN reporting that the intel group SITE says ISIS has claimed responsibility for today’s attack in Bangladesh in a Diplo zone, not far from the US Embassy. Many hostages, it just looks awful.
Here are 4 signs you might be demonically possessed — according to a Catholic psychiatrist https://t.co/nTnYye77v4 pic.twitter.com/jAMpsEIz8O
— Artzthings (@Artzthings) July 1, 2016
re: #590 Double Dumbass
They’re encrypted & protected by a password.
Right, but just one password, and then someone who hacks into the password manager has all your passwords, right? Or are you saying that the encryption is that much better than anything else I’m using that it is safe?
re: #544 The Vicious Babushka
Fuck that piece of shit for questioning my patriotism. Infuriating.
re: #585 The Vicious Babushka
What an ass.
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No, Donald, they are not allowed to chop off heads, not the same way you want to allow waterboarding.
Every head-chopper we can identify and locate gets a Hellfire missile up his ass, or a JDAM on his head. Of course freepers and other delusional RWNJs don’t seem to know that but it is considerably worse than anything anti-torture advocates have suggested for rogue CIA officers who torture suspects.
And the rockets’ red glare.
Splodey heads keep ‘splodin.https://t.co/fuYaQXEvR5 pic.twitter.com/eB23Qvhtdr— Charles P. Pierce (@ESQPolitics) July 1, 2016
re: #589 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I grasp your argument just fine. I made the argument that there would be no impeachment based on three premises. First, time was short and W would be out of office before the process went to completion. Second, the coalition that included conservative democrats wouldn’t (couldn’t) go ahead with it (along with investigations), and finally that there were no specific grounds for impeachment. That third one I think is distinctly at odds with your opinion that impeachment is something Democrats are above. I don’t believe that for a second. (However I do believe they would at least have some threshold, unlike the Republicans). I still can’t get an answer from those who think President Bush could /should have been impeached about what exactly he did that was the impeachable offense. Even if you believe the noble Democrats eschewed impeachment, that implies that there was a charge that made the president impeachable.
My argument:
Republicans wanted to impeach Clinton, and later Obama, from the moment of their election, so they worked tirelessly to find any breath of scandal, no matter how small, to demand investigation into it, to appoint Special Prosecutors, and Congressional Committees again and again and again in hopes of finding something.
The Democrats, given the same opportunity, did none of that, because that’s not what we do.
Your response:
What exact charges would the Democrats have filed?
You see how your counter is irrelevant to my argument?
re: #586 gocart mozart
1, Approving torture (waterboarding, forcible sodomy) which violates the 6th am, the Geneva convention and is also a war crime.
2. Manufacturing evidence in order to start a war under false pretenses.
3. Politicizing the Justice Department to go after enemies and go soft on allies and firing US Attorneys who refused to comply.
OK, now we’re getting somewhere.
1. Possible. Would be problematic to find smoking gun. I think that was the best bet for impeachment, but I think that would have taken a long time to get the smoking gun, or the oval office tape, or whatever would have been needed.
2. Not necessarily a crime. You would have to link Powell’s, Rice’s Cheney’s lies to his orders. I think you would have a hard time, and their statement would be cuched as interpretations of ambiguous data.
Politicizing the Justice department is not a crime. The President has a legal right to fire US attorneys.
re: #595 Shiplord Kirel
I can picture Trump whining “It’s not fair!!!” and jumping up and down
re: #594 plansbandc
Damn straight.
@MisLexi1
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) July 1, 2016
Offend a conservative, denounce Hitler.
re: #433 The Vicious Babushka
Yes but did he already sign a lifetime non-diss contract?
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#NativeMomsTaughtMe pic.twitter.com/9mJ8dMOtd4
— dawn karima (@dawnkarima) July 1, 2016
re: #593 calochortus
Right, but just one password, and then someone who hacks into the password manager has all your passwords, right? Or are you saying that the encryption is that much better than anything else I’m using that it is safe?
A password manager allows you to create difficult to crack passwords without having to remember dozens of them.
The password “password” is incredibly easy to crack because it’s a dictionary word making a dictionary attack easy. The password “u7&Tth5$$eDDDer#33(89J” is much more difficult to crack, but it’s almost impossible to remember.
A manager allows you to use passwords similar to the latter password without having to remember it. You only have to remember one password. If you make that password a phrase in combination with numbers and special chars rather than a word it will be difficult to crack and easier to remember.
Edit: I use Cree words & phrases because they aren’t commonly in dictionaries.
re: #595 Shiplord Kirel
What an ass.
No, Donald, they are not allowed to chop off heads, not the same way you want to allow waterboarding.
Every head-chopper we can identify and locate gets a Hellfire missile up his ass, or a JDAM on his head. Of course freepers and other delusional RWNJs don’t seem to know that but it is considerably worse than anything anti-torture advocates have suggested for rogue CIA officers who torture suspects.
He doesn’t know WTF he is talking about anyway. We have been crushing ISIS.
Coalition keeps up the pressure in Anbar, one strike destroying 23 ISIS vehicles near Ramadi. https://t.co/1kReGcHMZF
— Zeddonymous (@ZeddRebel) July 1, 2016
BREAKING: Iraq says air strikes destroy 260 Islamic State group vehicles fleeing #Fallujah - @i24NEWS_EN
— Conflict News (@Conflicts) June 30, 2016
But if you have a few people willing to die, or blow themselves up while committing relatively small scale, soft target attacks…they are hard to stop. You cant waterboard the dead you fucking orange clown stick.
re: #433 The Vicious Babushka
Yes but did he already sign a lifetime non-diss contract?
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I think Non-Disclosure Agreements are already pretty problematic legally, but let that slide for a moment. The tRump campaign is the first I’m hearing of “Non-Disparagement” contracts. Have these been tested in court? Or is it just something Cheeto Jesus made up on the fly?
re: #605 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I think Non-Disclosure Agreements are already pretty problematic legally, but let that slide for a moment. The tRump campaign is the first I’m hearing of “Non-Disparagement” contracts. Have these been tested in court? Or is it just something Cheeto Jesus made up on the fly?
Ah, but you see the Trump approach to legal questions isn’t about winning the case on the merits. It’s about beating the opposition into submission with money and time and wearing them down till they give up.
re: #603 Double Dumbass
Got it. My passwords vary in complexity depending on whether I care if anyone gets into my account or not (Bank: complex. Very complex. Sewing chat group: Simple.) So I have several complex passwords I have to look up. Every. Single. Time. It’s annoying.
re: #607 calochortus
Got it. My passwords vary in complexity depending on whether I care if anyone gets into my account or not (Bank: complex. Very complex. Sewing chat group: Simple.) So I have several complex passwords I have to look up. Every. Single. Time. It’s annoying.
Write them on Post-Its and stick them to your monitor.////
re: #577 Blind Frog Belly White
LOL! And the GOP has been demanding Obama’s impeachment since 2009, and are already planning to impeach Hillz.
re: #607 calochortus
Got it. My passwords vary in complexity depending on whether I care if anyone gets into my account or not (Bank: complex. Very complex. Sewing chat group: Simple.) So I have several complex passwords I have to look up. Every. Single. Time. It’s annoying.
A manager allows you to cut and paste passwords, although most only keep the password available for a few seconds.
re: #609 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOL! And the GOP has been demanding Obama’s impeachment since 2009, and are already planning to impeach Hillz.
We joke about impeachment proceedings starting before the election, but they seem to be determined to start before the convention.
re: #608 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Write them on Post-Its and stick them to your monitor.////
Or I could put a file right on my desktop with my log in names and passwords. Think of the convenience!
re: #607 calochortus
Got it. My passwords vary in complexity depending on whether I care if anyone gets into my account or not (Bank: complex. Very complex. Sewing chat group: Simple.) So I have several complex passwords I have to look up. Every. Single. Time. It’s annoying.
Best explanation of useful passwords…
I use a sentence. Normal words that I can easily remember and are impossible to crack.
re: #523 lawhawk
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And utterly predictable. Newt so badly wants to be VP, he’s willing to say/do anything. That means even getting Trump his meals for him, replacing Reek Christie as head Gimp.
Gingrich is doing a Producers here. He’s already sold his soul hundreds of times.
Behind the screen because it’s a snake eating a lizard. Not gory, though.
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re: #613 William Lewis
Best explanation of useful passwords…
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Good info. I wonder if I can get Mr. C. to sit down with me and redo our passwords so they make some kind of sense to both of us? Won’t that make for a romantic evening?
re: #603 Double Dumbass
I use a series of passwords in case one gets burned. The way I handle them is they’re buried in a college paper and they aren’t even intact passwords they are clues to which password goes to which, and it’s all heavily abbreviated so it isn’t obvious to somebody else which clue goes to what. For example a loan for a ford would show up as htfdp10B8. That has the account (Henry T. Ford) a clue to the user id (which email address or something else i would associate with dp) and a clue to which password I’m using and if the first letter is cap or not) and in general I’ll use the same character if necessary. But like I said these are buried in a 30 page paper.
Indictment Links Chipotle Executive to New York Drug Ring
Chipotle Mexican Grill was dealt another blow on Thursday after the executive leading many of its efforts to recover from a food safety scandal was charged with drug possession and accused him of having a connection to a cocaine delivery service in New York.
re: #611 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
We joke about impeachment proceedings starting before the election, but they seem to be determined to start before the convention.
This is what I’ve been trying to say. And it’s all part of how they think. The more cynical of them want impeachment as a ‘Do-over’ when they lose an election. The Rank and Vile JUST KNOW that Clinton/Obama are criminals, it’s just a question of finding the evidence.
It’s all of a piece with believing Fox News, denying Climate Change and Evolution, and insisting that ‘The Clintons got to Trey Gowdy’. They’re convinced they know the truth, and demand that THAT TRUTH be uncovered.
It’s the difference between how the Democrats handled 9/11, and how Republicans handled Benghazi. When the 9/11 Commissions report found no intentional wrongdoing, we didn’t demand another investigation, or claim ‘the fix was in’. Republicans? They accuse each successive investigation of corruption for failing to uncover The Truth that they JUST KNOW is there SOMEWHERE!!!
re: #615 wrenchwench
Behind the screen because it’s a snake eating a lizard. Not gory, though.
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Bye Geck.
Li’l Whiplash is getting ready for WAR AGAINST TEH GHEY!!!!!!
https://t.co/jOjrKEwaGw Forced To Include Same-Sex Searches https://t.co/qtpInBaa46 pic.twitter.com/DlaWXpWpne
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) July 1, 2016
Here is a picture of the Tel Aviv Gay Pride March to Tweet at him:
re: #611 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
We joke about impeachment proceedings starting before the election, but they seem to be determined to start before the convention.
even the bernouts are doing it.
re: #621 Stanley Sea
I was watching a cormorant trying to eat a fish once and I realized how lucky we are to have hands. The bird was trying to get the fish lined up head first and it must have taken ten minutes of head bobbing to get it without losing the fish. Then it had to swallow the fish and I was imagining what it would be like for a person to swallow an eye roast.
re: #622 The Vicious Babushka
Li’l Whiplash is getting ready for WAR AGAINST TEH GHEY!!!!!!
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Here is a picture of the Tel Aviv Gay Pride March to Tweet at him:
He’s such a homophobic little moron with a victim complex to match his hatefulness.
re: #622 The Vicious Babushka
Li’l Whiplash is getting ready for WAR AGAINST TEH GHEY!!!!!!
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Here is a picture of the Tel Aviv Gay Pride March to Tweet at him:
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Nuh uh! Hebrew signs—that proves it’s San Antonio!
I just wonder how Ben would feel if the laws he wants used to protect and sanctify homophobia were used about Antisemitism. Yeah something tells me he wouldn’t like it but I guess it’s okay when it’s gays being discriminated against in the little man’s mind.
re: #627 HappyWarrior
I just wonder how Ben would feel if the laws he wants used to protect and sanctify homophobia were used about Antisemitism. Yeah something tells me he wouldn’t like it but I guess it’s okay when it’s gays being discriminated against in the little man’s mind.
Well, you know, homosexuality is a choice but religion is congenital.
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re: #628 Blind Frog Belly White
Well, you know, homosexuality is a choice but religion is congenital.
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So, my Kindle Fire had a software upgrade a couple or so weeks ago that includes something called OnDeck.
As an Amazon Prime member, I have access to free videos but my alleged high speed internet connection from Windstream is barely better than old timey dialup speed (and many times even worse), so the free Prime videos are useless to me due to massive buffering.
OnDeck is pretty cool though because the random movies/TV shows (I don’t get to choose them) are automatically downloaded to my Fire.
I just checked and Mockingjay Part 1 is sitting there waiting for me, along with the first season of Downton Abbey.
WOOT!
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Damn, where do I get my hardcore bernieorbust fix now?
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Almost every mistake you could possible make has been made before.
Don’t take this as a challenge.#tipsfornewdocs— Mark Reid, MD (@medicalaxioms) July 1, 2016
re: #632 wrenchwench
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“See? That’s how unoriginal I am! Even my mistakes are unoriginal!”
re: #631 Nyet
Damn, where do I get my hardcore bernieorbust fix now?
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404 The revolution you are looking for cannot be found.
Ahhhh, that’s better.
HRC TO BE “INTERVIEWED” BY FBI ON SATURDAY. AG Lynch promises to abide by FBI indictments. GAME OVER Hillary Bots. BERNIE SANDERS WINS SOON!
— H. A. Goodman (@HAGOODMANAUTHOR) July 1, 2016
re: #636 Nyet
Ahhhh, that’s better.
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Showing again his great understanding of how the law works. The FBI won’t be indicating her, you dolt.
re: #637 HappyWarrior
Has anyone put him on suicide watch? Because after nothing happens with the FBI…
re: #638 Nyet
…it will be yet another cover-up.
re: #638 Nyet
Has anyone put him on suicide watch? Because after nothing happens with the FBI…
Saw a sweater earlier that look like it could pass for a strafe jacket.
FT: It’s history for #WAL.
Wales are in their first major tournament semi.#WAL 3-1 #BEL https://t.co/eZItEeScOL pic.twitter.com/XroANzG20v— BBC Sport (@BBCSport) July 1, 2016
BFD for Wales. In the quarterfinal they just won, when they took the lead was the first time since 1958. First time ever headed to the semis.
And a lot of Wales fans are really pissed that they are stuck in Folkestone because the Chunnel is closed down due to last night’s train breakdown.
re: #638 Nyet
Has anyone put him on suicide watch? Because after nothing happens with the FBI…
“NEVER GIVE UP!!!11!!!”
re: #642 Backwoods_Sleuth
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BFD for Wales. In the quarterfinal they just won, when they took the lead was the first time since 1958. First time ever headed to the semis.
And a lot of Wales fans are really pissed that they are stuck in Folkestone because the Chunnel is closed down due to last night’s train breakdown.
My one cousin is thrilled no doubt.
Maybe H.A. can ask the Supreme Court to try Clinton.
re: #220 Dr. Matt
Most Poorly Designed House in America?
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This error essentially makes the home worthless, real estate agent and co-host of Million Dollar Listing, Josh Flagg told Inside Edition. “I would tear it down,” he explained. “No one would ever build a home that way. It makes no sense.”
Instead of taking the windows out of the side and the door off the front and swapping them out (putting in a door on the side and the windows up front).
Yeah, tear it down. ///////
Idiot builders and idiots who bitch about idiot builders.
3-1! Most excellent fun. That’s almost as good as watching the Foxes win the Premier League this year.
re: #226 Great White Snark
Never ate a duck egg. Now wondering how different that is from chicken eggs.
Stronger. More like what eggs used to taste like before someone decided that feeding the hens a vegetarian diet was a good idea. Protein makes the eggs taste. Now eggs are nothing like what they were when I was a kid. They are almost tasteless.
Trump might think this is an attacking airplane. pic.twitter.com/4tqS1PbMhO
— Kat 4 Obama (@Kat4Obama) July 1, 2016
re: #638 Nyet
Has anyone put him on suicide watch? Because after nothing happens with the FBI…
I think he’ll be one of Palin’s ‘splodey heads that are ‘splodin’.
re: #646 HappyWarrior
Maybe H.A. can ask the Supreme Court to try Clinton.
He’ll petition that Scalia personally arrest her.
re: #622 The Vicious Babushka
Li’l Whiplash is getting ready for WAR AGAINST TEH GHEY!!!!!!
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I’m guessing dailywire is a wingnut sewer site, as Ben Shapiro has a byline on it, (said judgement confirmed by glancing at the comments - yeeecccch!), but even they ought to be able to spot the big flaw in Baby Whiplash’s “argument”: why does he conflate “Christian” and/or “religious” with “manic gay-bashing homophobe”? Has it never occurred to him* that there might be any - several, in fact - Christian denominations who are either neutral or gay-friendly on sexual-orientation matters (and whose adherents just might want to checkout Christian Mingle for dates)? Or has Ben just decided that he’s now a magisterial authority in religious doctrine, as well as politics…?
*probably not
re: #650 MsJ
Stronger. More like what eggs used to taste like before someone decided that feeding the hens a vegetarian diet was a good idea. Protein makes the eggs taste. Now eggs are nothing like what they were when I was a kid. They are almost tasteless.
You’ve noticed that too? The yolks are barely yellow any more, also…they were orange when I was a kid.
re: #654 Jay C
I’m guessing dailywire is a wingnut sewer site, as Ben Shapiro has a byline on it, (said judgement confirmed by glancing at the comments - yeeecccch!), but even they ought to be able to spot the big flaw in Baby Whiplash’s “argument”: why does he conflate “Christian” and/or “religious” with “manic gay-bashing homophobe”? Has it never occurred to him* that there might be any - several, in fact - Christian denominations who are either neutral or gay-friendly on sexual-orientation matters (and whose adherents just might want to checkout Christian Mingle for dates)? Or has Ben just decided that he’s now a magisterial authority in religious doctrine, as well as politics…?
*probably not
Almost relevant:
Pope Benedict Claims There Was Once A ‘Gay Lobby’ At The Vatican
In an upcoming memoir about his pontificate, Benedict revealed that he broke up a ‘gay lobby’ that had tried to wield power at the Vatican.
re: #655 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
You’ve noticed that too? The yolks are barely yellow any more, also…they were orange when I was a kid.
Love that eggs we use are from free range hens co-owned by me and my neighbor. (I purchased the two dozen chicks 2 years ago, he keeps the hens at his place.)
Store bought eggs are so weak by comparison. You can see the difference not just in the yolks but in the whites as well.
re: #650 MsJ
Stronger. More like what eggs used to taste like before someone decided that feeding the hens a vegetarian diet was a good idea. Protein makes the eggs taste. Now eggs are nothing like what they were when I was a kid. They are almost tasteless.
Cracks me up when people tell me their free-range hens are vegetarian.
re: #658 wrenchwench
Cracks me up when people tell me their free-range hens are vegetarian.
Definitely a biology question, but could a bird that large be a vegetarian without human intervention?
I should have started to read this thread before my Friday before the 4th of July Margaritas
re: #659 Belafon
Definitely a biology question, but could a bird that large be a vegetarian without human intervention?
Yes. Many larger mammals are vegetarian.
But chickens are omnivores.
re: #658 wrenchwench
Cracks me up when people tell me their free-range hens are vegetarian.
They are so totally NOT vegan!
I’ve seen them jump into the creek going after crawdads.
And bugs are their favorite things, unless there is fried chicken on offer…
For those who missed it earlier, this may be the most touching tribute I have ever heard of. This morning, with little prior publicity, thousands of mostly young volunteers dressed up in World War I uniforms and fanned out to memorial sites, train stations, and other public spaces all over the United Kingdom. #WeAreHere: WWI ‘soldiers’ appear across UK in ‘moving and powerful’ Somme tribute
Volunteers dressed as World War I soldiers appeared at transport hubs across the UK on Friday morning as part of Battle of the Somme commemorations, marking the centenary of the 141-day campaign that began this day in 1916.
The ‘soldiers’ silently handed cards to passers by, each bearing the name of a soldier who died at the Somme on 1st July 1916.
Update: Now paged
re: #659 Belafon
Definitely a biology question, but could a bird that large be a vegetarian without human intervention?
Possibly. But only if the bugs are kept away.
One of my favorite things to watch with the wee chicks is when one manages to catch a moth or something similar and starts running around with it and the rest of the pack starts chasing to try and snatch it away.
re: #648 MsJ
Instead of taking the windows out of the side and the door off the front and swapping them out (putting in a door on the side and the windows up front).
Yeah, tear it down. ///////
Idiot builders and idiots who bitch about idiot builders.
Or, y’know, maybe just dig up the wrong driveway and lay down a new one.
@ionacrv @RichieRichBor @winkelle @MrFriendlyHappy @mandyclements2 @MichelleBurley1 YAY!! Oh..poo to the Raven😂❤️ pic.twitter.com/ayEzzS5GFk
— Heidi (@HeidiStea) June 30, 2016
re: #661 Blind Frog Belly White
Yes. Many larger mammals are vegetarian.
But chickens are omnivores.
Birds aren’t mammals, though.
re: #660 Ming5000
I should have started to read this thread before my Friday before the 4th of July Margaritas
Reminds me of this from earlier:
I love Mexican food when I’m eating Margaritas. pic.twitter.com/foBj9KjI9T
— RUTH BUZZI (@Ruth_A_Buzzi) July 1, 2016
re: #663 Shiplord Kirel
The ‘soldiers’ silently handed cards to passers by, each bearing the name of a soldier who died at the Somme on 1st July 1916.
Must have been a hell of printing job: there were something like 20,000 men killed on the Somme. On that one day.
re: #643 austin_blue
I really want Iceland to pull off the weirdest thing in history.
re: #655 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
You’ve noticed that too? The yolks are barely yellow any more, also…they were orange when I was a kid.
We buy our eggs from a guy at Mr Blue’s workplace. He and his wife raise free range chickens. The eggs are brown…no white ones. The yolks are a deep rich yellow/orange and they vary in size. Some are huge. Double yolks are not that uncommon.
So good.
re: #668 Belafon
Birds aren’t mammals, though.
No, but they have similar energy and protein requirements for the same size.
re: #668 Belafon
Birds aren’t mammals, though.
And for that matter, a friend related the story of a deer finding a nest of baby birds and eating them right up. Nature doesn’t tend to stick to hard-and-fast categories.
re: #675 Blind Frog Belly White
And for that matter, a friend related the story of a deer finding a nest of baby birds and eating them right up. Nature doesn’t tend to stick to hard-and-fast categories.
:(
re: #675 Blind Frog Belly White
And for that matter, a friend related the story of a deer finding a nest of baby birds and eating them right up. Nature doesn’t tend to stick to hard-and-fast categories.
Except when times are hard, they fast.
re: #330 Skip Intro
President Trump’s Federal Employees Wouldn’t Be Able To Stay At Most Trump Hotels
“Youze mean that after all the money I saved on steel by using mob concrete you expect me to spend on fire safety? Fuck youze!”
Of course he will raise the per diem…and the cost of government that they hate so much.
re: #678 Stanley Sea
First thing that came to mind.
Yeah. Nature as it really is makes a far less kid-friendly cartoon….
re: #345 Skip Intro
Charles Pierce’s take on the Bill Clinton Syndrone:
esquire.com
Go home, Bill. Stay there.
I disagree. Why on earth are we ceding to this bullshit?
Fucking dems needs to find that damn spine they borrowed from someone last week.
re: #648 MsJ
Instead of taking the windows out of the side and the door off the front and swapping them out (putting in a door on the side and the windows up front).
Yeah, tear it down. ///////
Idiot builders and idiots who bitch about idiot builders.
Just build a driveway to the garage. Duh.
re: #654 Jay C
I’m guessing dailywire is a wingnut sewer site, as Ben Shapiro has a byline on it, (said judgement confirmed by glancing at the comments - yeeecccch!), but even they ought to be able to spot the big flaw in Baby Whiplash’s “argument”: why does he conflate “Christian” and/or “religious” with “manic gay-bashing homophobe”? Has it never occurred to him* that there might be any - several, in fact - Christian denominations who are either neutral or gay-friendly on sexual-orientation matters (and whose adherents just might want to checkout Christian Mingle for dates)? Or has Ben just decided that he’s now a magisterial authority in religious doctrine, as well as politics…?
*probably not
He’s gone from deciding Who Is A Real Jew to Who Is A Real Christian.
re: #684 The Vicious Babushka
He’s gone from deciding Who Is A Real Jew to Who Is A Real Christian.
Pretty sure he’ll also tell you who’s a Real Muslim. I’ve had any number of wingnuts tell me that any REAL Muslims would be all for killing all the ‘infidels’.
re: #671 Backwoods_Sleuth
Quite right.
Chickens are dinosaurs.
T-Rexes even…
As Alton Brown so deftly demonstrated in the Good Eats episode, ”Fry Hard 2: The Chicken”.
re: #670 Jay C
Must have been a hell of printing job: there were something like 20,000 men killed on the Somme. On that one day.
“You know what let’s do? Let’s bombard a small area of the Front Lines for a week before we attack. No way the Germans will concentrate their troops there to counter it!”
re: #576 calochortus
A question for all the more tech savvy Lizards (which means virtually everyone…)
I don’t understand how password managers are particularly secure. If it’s easy for me to use all my passwords, doesn’t that mean it would be easy to steal the lot of them? Or if they are stored in the computer, if the computer is stolen, don’t my passwords go with it?
I’m ready to quit fussing around with lists of IDs and passwords, but I don’t see how this would all work. Things are often all nice and secure until suddenly they aren’t.
These are good questions!
I don’t use a password manager, but I get the idea.
Using a password manager allows you to use really long, hard to crack, unique passwords for every site/service. So even if that service is hacked, and the attacker gets your hashed password, it becomes very unlikely they can crack it, because it’s so long and random.
A password hash is a one-way “encryption” that is hard to guess if you don’t know the original password. The simpler the original password, the easier it is to guess the hash. Reputable sites hash passwords, but some not as well as others. This helps protect you against weak password hashing.
With a manager, your passwords are stored locally and encrypted via a master password, that only you should know. Could someone steal your local copy and crack it to get all your passwords? Yep. But, it’s more likely a service you use will be hacked,. and the shorter, easier to crack password will be revealed. If you use that password at another service, the attack can cascade.
If you do use a password manager, my advice is to not allow it to put anything on a server, or as they say these days “the cloud”. Keep the data local to your machine.
Hope that helped!
re: #680 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah. Nature as it really is makes a far less kid-friendly cartoon….
Ticks n shit.
re: #665 Backwoods_Sleuth
One of my favorite things to watch with the wee chicks is when one manages to catch a moth or something similar and starts running around with it and the rest of the pack starts chasing to try and snatch it away.
Bugs hell. Watch what happens if a flock of them finds an injured mouse.
re: #690 Feline Fearless Leader
Bugs hell. Watch what happens if a flock of them finds an injured mouse.
It’s not for the soft-hearted.
Total Walking Dead scenario.
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