Why Is Donald Trump Jr. Following White Supremacists on Twitter?

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If you follow politics on Twitter you’ll eventually run into the “alt-right” cavemen — a group of antisemites, neo-Nazis and white supremacists who make no attempt at all to hide what they’re about. “Alt-right” is just the latest term they’re using; in the past they’ve called themselves “race realists,” “racialists,” “nationalists” and a host of other lofty-sounding names, but the hatred always remains the same.

Today, Buzzfeed’s Rosie Gray noticed that Donald Trump Jr., who has been taking a large role in his father’s campaign, had “liked” a tweet by one of the worst and most active of these “alt-right” freaks on Twitter:

So I got curious and took a look at the list of people Trump Jr. is following on Twitter — and there was @Ricky_Vaughn99 (probably a fake name, of course). A screenshot:

Some recent tweets by this guy who’s being followed by the son of the Republican Party’s nominee for president of the US:

His Twitter timeline is absolutely full of this kind of hateful garbage; there’s no way Trump Jr. could possibly have missed it. Yet he chose to follow this guy.

And that’s not all. In the screenshot above you can see that Trump Jr. is also following @Bidenshairplugs, who uses a picture of Joe Biden with a Hitler mustache for his avatar. This guy may be even worse than @Ricky_Vaughn99.

It’s pretty clear that Donald Trump isn’t the only one with an affinity for white supremacists and neo-Nazi types. It runs in the family.

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366 comments

1
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:36:12pm

Shit off the old Blockhead.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:36:55pm

Racist morons.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:37:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:38:03pm

RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM!!!!
DRINK!!!!

I should stop watching this stupid rant…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:38:37pm

Donald quoting Bernie.

Thanks ya old stupid git.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:39:49pm

Repeating “bad judgement” like a crazy old fart.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:40:50pm

“America, America, America first.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:40:51pm

Donald calls Obama a carnival act.

Donald says we need a president who will take care of the African-American community and give the Hispanics jobs…

O_o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:41:30pm

Air Force One is really old and sucks up so much fuel…

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:42:14pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh my god, what a clown. lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:42:18pm

YAY! Thank you Mother Nature for messing with the satellite feed!

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:42:52pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Air Force One is really old and sucks up so much fuel…

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:42:56pm

Disturbing. You know this shit-for-brains loser brags about Donny Jr. following him at his local Klan meetings… I wonder if this is what the Donald had in mind for his “voter outreach training”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:44:55pm

Satellite is back in time for me to hear Donald say that our military is crap.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:45:04pm

I made a Daily Kos diary for Caramel. I had trouble deciding if I wanted to do it here or there, but I hadn’t really seen a lot of pet diaries here. Here it is: dailykos.com.

Thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:45:33pm

Bragging about how much he raised for veterans.

Still lying about it.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:45:51pm

But Trump’s little hands are off-limits.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:46:13pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Air Force One is really old and sucks up so much fuel…

Plus, it doesn’t have gold toilets OR stripper poles. SO UNCLASSY!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:46:23pm
probably a fake name, by the way

If you haven’t seen Major League, you wouldn’t get the reference. Ricky Vaughn is the bad-boy pitcher played by Charlie Sheen, and the avatar is him with his Indians cap replaced with a MAGA hat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:47:21pm

bragging about how his hair is real because of wind and rain.

And again, Mother Nature saves me as the satellite disappears again…

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:48:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:48:24pm

re: #18 InfidelOfFreedom

Plus, it doesn’t have gold toilets OR stripper poles. SO UNCLASSY!

or mostly nekkid eastern european women auditioning for the position of Mrs Trump….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:49:00pm

This quote is very familiar==>

Where have I seen it before? Oh right==>

Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:49:17pm

re: #17 jaunte

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But Trump’s little hands are off-limits.

I don’t even like re-tweeting that stuff cuz it makes me so sad to even contemplate people that shitty. *sigh*

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:50:24pm

re: #15 Belafon

I made a Daily Kos diary for Caramel. I had trouble deciding if I wanted to do it here or there, but I hadn’t really seen a lot of pet diaries here. Here it is: dailykos.com.

Thanks.

I keep failing to catch up or I would have extended my sympathies several threads ago. Believe me, I know what it’s like. It will take a while for only the good memories to remain, but it will happen. You have to do what’s right, and you’d feel even worse if you’d put it off too long. Trust me on that, too. Best wishes and I’m glad Caramel had such a good best friend.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:51:00pm

re: #2 jaunte

Karoli @Karoli
Call and response: “who’s going to pay for the wall?”

“MEXICO”
7:35 PM - 5 Jul 2016
2 2 Retweets 2 2 likes

Racist morons.

I note how much the new and improved, more disciplined Trump campaign is doing tonight.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:51:56pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:52:24pm

re: #15 Belafon

I made a Daily Kos diary for Caramel. I had trouble deciding if I wanted to do it here or there, but I hadn’t really seen a lot of pet diaries here. Here it is: dailykos.com.

Thanks.

Love the photos.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:53:19pm

re: #27 jaunte

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What the actual fuck is he talking about?

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b.d.  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:53:27pm

re: #15 Belafon

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:53:48pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

Love the photos.

It was hard to get a good photo of her whole body. When she saw you pointing a camera at her, she would walk up to you. So we have a lot of shots where it looks like she has a big head and a tiny body.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:54:12pm
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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:54:13pm

re: #29 InfidelOfFreedom

Bragging that he’s so newsworthy he can phone in his tv appearances.

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Skip Intro  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:54:21pm

“Boardroom advisor to the Apprentice”.

Another sterling accomplishment you did all by yourself. It being daddy’s show had nothing to do with it, just like being EVP of daddy’s company.

Really pulled yourself up by your bootstraps, didn’t you junior?

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Skip Intro  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:55:35pm

re: #29 InfidelOfFreedom

What the actual fuck is he talking about?

Himself, like always. It’s about Trump, that’s all that matters.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:55:54pm

re: #33 jaunte

Bragging that he’s so newsworthy he can phone in his tv appearances.

Ahh. So I guess this is where the media realize they’re being played for fools and force him to play by the normal rules of a presidential campaign, right??

I can dream.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:56:20pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:56:29pm

But the guy who made fun of Trump’s hands was escorted out.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:56:49pm
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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:57:48pm

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

This quote is very familiar==>

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Where have I seen it before? Oh right==>

Heavy Metal 1981 - “Captain Sterns meets Hanover Fist” scene

RBS

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:57:57pm
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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:58:37pm

re: #15 Belafon

I made a Daily Kos diary for Caramel. I had trouble deciding if I wanted to do it here or there, but I hadn’t really seen a lot of pet diaries here. Here it is: dailykos.com.

Thanks.

I wasn’t around for most of last week and missed the sad news.

So sorry, Belafon. That was a lovely tribute. Caramel was pretty smart to have picked you for her human. Good girl, Caramel.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:59:08pm

Now taking credit for being the first one saying the system is rigged.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:00:58pm

re: #41 jaunte

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Trump praising Saddam Hussein for killing terrorists and noting that Hussein “didn’t read them the rights.”

Oh, that’s lovely. Remember when liberals were Saddam-loving traitors?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:01:26pm

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

This quote is very familiar==>

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Where have I seen it before? Oh right==>

Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

Is that Ivanka???

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:02:46pm

“We’re going to replace it with something that costs less….”

Okay, tell me what it is.

::crickets::

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:04:17pm

Isn’t it interesting how much he praises hackers, dictators, terrorist organizations, etc, etc….

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:05:34pm

re: #34 Skip Intro

“Boardroom advisor to the Apprentice”.

Another sterling accomplishment you did all by yourself. It being daddy’s show had nothing to do with it, just like being EVP of daddy’s company.

Really pulled yourself up by your bootstraps, didn’t you junior?

I have a bad feeling we are going to have to put up with the Trump boys for a long time. They have been unleashed and fed the wingnut grift diet. Look the hell out future.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:05:43pm

Trump says we should have used geniuses to find the missing emails..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:06:12pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:07:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:07:27pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:07:35pm

re: #43 Jenner7

Now taking credit for being the first one saying the system is rigged.

“I wrote all the great cliches!”

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:08:48pm

Reminder. Rallies don’t reach everyone, Trump. You have no clue how to run a campaign.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:09:02pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:09:25pm

re: #54 Jenner7

Reminder. Rallies don’t reach everyone, Trump. You have no clue how to run a campaign.

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Shhh don’t tell him! Maybe he won’t figure it out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:10:12pm

re: #54 Jenner7

Reminder. Rallies don’t reach everyone, Trump. You have no clue how to run a campaign.

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If it’s not a poll that favors him, it doesn’t count.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:10:15pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The voices in his head would never lie to him.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:10:46pm

Now Trump says Hillary bribed Lynch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:10:59pm
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b.d.  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:11:01pm

Back to cattle futures.

Wow, they really got nothing.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:11:05pm

“IT’S A BRIBE!”

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:11:25pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alex Sayf Cummings @akbarjenkins
I love how Trump qualifies all his statements with “I heard this, it’s probably maybe definitely true” #TrumpRaleigh
8:06 PM - 5 Jul 2016
Retweets 2 2 likes

Even though he is a pretty large man…he can still wiggle with the best of them.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:11:53pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:12:00pm

re: #59 Jenner7

Now Trump says Hillary bribed Lynch.

Bill was the bag man.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:12:30pm

re: #62 Jenner7

“IT’S A BRIBE!”

Bill bribed her with baby pictures!

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:13:32pm

re: #64 Jenner7

It is now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:13:44pm

re: #66 InfidelOfFreedom

Bill bribed her with baby pictures!

Depends on how many grandchildren pictures there are.

Doh!

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:14:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:14:56pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And what of the poor whites that keep on voting for the Republicans?

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:16:27pm

He’s extra yelly tonight. More unhinged than usual.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:16:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:16:59pm

re: #71 Jenner7

He’s extra yelly tonight. More unhinged than usual.

He’s a lunatic.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:17:24pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

And what of the poor whites that keep on voting for the Republicans?

Oil for the machine. It grinds to a halt without them.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:18:02pm

No wonder he wants to wait until *after* the election to work on those libel/slander laws, ‘cause he sure is loving their high standard right now.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:18:07pm

Where’s McCrory? Where’s Burr?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:18:26pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:18:48pm

re: #76 Joe Bacon

Where’s McCrory? Where’s Burr?

They had to wash their hair tonight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:19:34pm

LOL, just saw a tweet claiming that hackers have hacked the Trump feed.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:20:12pm

“I have a plan to cut taxes…”

Okay, what is it?

::crickets::

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:20:52pm

YUUUGE crowd outside…

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:21:29pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve never liked a Republican running for office, but I’ve never seen one who made me actively uncomfortable.

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majii  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:23:06pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let them keep believing that. They don’t know me, and they don’t know that I can buy just about anything I want, but I don’t because my needs and wants at this stage in my life aren’t that great.

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451_Montag  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:23:31pm

There is really something wrong with this spunk-puppet. It sounds like a non-english speaker used Google translate on a Sarah Palin speech

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:23:36pm

re: #82 InfidelOfFreedom

I’ve never liked a Republican running for office, but I’ve never seen one who made me actively uncomfortable.

I don’t know. I’m having flashbacks to my “holy shit, people are actively supporting this moron?!” moments of GWB’s first campaign.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:23:45pm

Yelling again….about Bill being paid by foreign people while Hillary was SOS.

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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:23:58pm

I just got a flash flood warning for my ‘area’. Odd because the smart phone is pretty new and I don’t have wifi set up in my house yet. I’m not sure why I got it. I haven’t signed up for any weather programs that weren’t already on the phone.

Twin Cities is getting pounded by severe storms this evening. I drove home from South Minneapolis about 6:30 and lots of branches were down. I had to detour about a mile from my home because a tree was over the road. I was glad to see no tree damage in my neighborhood when I got home. I don’t really have to worry about flash flooding because my house sits on a hill and all routes away from my house lead into the Mississippi River valley. Storms still suck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:24:25pm
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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:25:45pm

“I used to be establishment until I ran..”

Wut?

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:25:48pm

re: #15 Belafon

I made a Daily Kos diary for Caramel. I had trouble deciding if I wanted to do it here or there, but I hadn’t really seen a lot of pet diaries here. Here it is: dailykos.com.

Thanks.

Tipped and recced. I am Village Vet over there (with the same Gold Star Family Pin avatar I use here).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:26:29pm
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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:26:41pm

Not really. He’s practically screaming the accusations.

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TedStriker  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:26:47pm

re: #40 Reality Based Steve

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RBS

Heh…made me pull the movie up on my media server, just to watch that segment.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:27:20pm

re: #87 stpaulbear

There’s an emergency alerting system on new smartphones. It’s independent of any weather programs and it’s geographically-based, for things like Amber Alerts.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:27:23pm

re: #92 Jenner7

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Not really. He’s practically screaming the accusations.

The bar the guy set is pretty low: Most convincing case he’s made yet.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:27:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:28:26pm
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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:28:52pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:29:00pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Other than the non-indictment, best news I’ve heard all day. Then again his supporters may just be itching to go break shit in the parking lot.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:29:32pm

re: #94 Sherlock Hound

There’s an emergency alerting system on new smartphones. It’s independent of any weather programs and it’s geographically-based, for things like Amber Alerts.

That being said, you can certainly tweak which warnings, etc. it goes off for. Be thankful your first introduction/reminder to configure it came at a reasonable hour and not, oh, 3am.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:29:33pm

Welp it looks like “Ricky Vaughn” has an even more horrible, disgusting, racist, homophobic Twitter account in case his main one gets banned @Ricky_Vaughn88

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:29:56pm

re: #98 jaunte

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Yes, he’s truly done a full 360º.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:29:57pm
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sagehen  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:30:49pm

re: #87 stpaulbear

I just got a flash flood warning for my ‘area’. Odd because the smart phone is pretty new and I don’t have wifi set up in my house yet. I’m not sure why I got it. I haven’t signed up for any weather programs that weren’t already on the phone.

Sounds like the “Reverse 911” California does for fire evacuations.

You don’t have to sign up for it. If your phone is geographically in the zone, they’ll make sure you the warnings get to your number.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:30:56pm

re: #102 InfidelOfFreedom

More of a spinning lurch than a pivot.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:31:18pm

re: #96 Jenner7

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A “monkey” that’s done much better than your white trash ass.

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:31:41pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:33:02pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

A “monkey” that’s done much better than your white trash ass.

Plus, monkeys have been shown to have a moral code and will punish other monkeys who violate it. Can’t say the same for Trumpites.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:33:34pm

re: #107 Kragar

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Suck it Nugent.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:33:53pm

re: #108 InfidelOfFreedom

Plus, monkeys have been shown to have a moral code and will punish other monkeys who violate it. Can’t say the same for Trumpites.

They also show signs of intelligence.

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majii  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:34:45pm

re: #96 Jenner7

A few days ago, a guy on the Raw Story site claimed he is an Obama supporter and went on to say that he doesn’t understand why some of us Black Americans still get upset over being compared to monkeys, chimpanzees, and other animals. My simple response to him was because it never stops, there’s always going to be someone who makes that comparison, and that he’s needs to experience what it’s like to understand. I have always found it very strange that some who always claim to believe that God made us in his own image seem to believe that some of the humans he created are animals. If this is what they actually believe, they do not believe that God created man in his own image, but then, I’m viewing this matter from a logical POV when they’re not.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:35:13pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“They love me so much I was making them sick with my greatness. Some people are not used to such greatness. I have seen this. Many times. I make them so proud to be Americans they don’t know what to do. So, they get faint and have to leave. I’ve seen it. You are seeing it now. I’m that great. So much winning, it makes heads spin.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:36:52pm

re: #112 ObserverArt

“They love me so much I was making them sick with my greatness. Some people are not used to such greatness. I have seen this. Many times. I make them so proud to be Americans they don’t know what to do. So, they get faint and have to leave. I’ve seen it. You are seeing it now. I’m that great. So much winning, it makes heads spin.”

I think Hitler had more humility than this narcissistic piece of shit.

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majii  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:37:06pm

re: #107 Kragar

I’m wondering what the entertainment line-up will be at the GOP. The name Ted Nugent comes to mind. LOL.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:37:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:38:01pm

re: #114 majii

I’m wondering what the entertainment line-up will be at the GOP. The name Ted Nugent comes to mind. LOL.

Nugent, Meat Loaf, Kid Rock, Hank Williams, Jr, all your least favorite rockers will be there!

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:39:36pm

re: #112 ObserverArt

“They love me so much I was making them sick with my greatness. Some people are not used to such greatness. I have seen this. Many times. I make them so proud to be Americans they don’t know what to do. So, they get faint and have to leave. I’ve seen it. You are seeing it now. I’m that great. So much winning, it makes heads spin.”

Yea this made my head spin and now I think I’m gonna hurl.

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TedStriker  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:39:45pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Nugent, Meat Loaf, Kid Rock, Hank Williams, Jr, all your least favorite rockers will be there!

Maybe not Meat Loaf…IIRC, he had some sort of health issue right after a show within the past couple of weeks, so he may still be recovering.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:40:42pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Nugent, Meat Loaf, Kid Rock, Hank Williams, Jr, all your least favorite rockers will be there!

Heh…don’t know why, but seeing that list gives me a theme name for the 2016 Republican National Convention.

“Profiles in Derpage”

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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:40:44pm

re: #94 Sherlock Hound

There’s an emergency alerting system on new smartphones. It’s independent of any weather programs and it’s geographically-based, for things like Amber Alerts.

Thanks. Good to know. This is the first warning I’ve received and it freaked me out because I didn’t know where it was coming from.

Some pretty amazing thunder and lightning moving through St. Paul right now. I should be getting pounded with rain in a few minutes. Hopefully the high winds are over.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:40:44pm

re: #119 TedStriker

Maybe not Meat Loaf…IIRC, he had some sort of health issue right after a show within the past couple of weeks, so he may still be recovering.

To be fair to him, he’s not a bigot like Nugent and Hank Williams, Jr are too. Didn’t know he had health problems. His music doesn’t do it for me but got nothing against him even fi he is a bit clueless politically.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:41:56pm

re: #112 ObserverArt

“They love me so much I was making them sick with my greatness. Some people are not used to such greatness. I have seen this. Many times. I make them so proud to be Americans they don’t know what to do. So, they get faint and have to leave. I’ve seen it. You are seeing it now. I’m that great. So much winning, it makes heads spin.”

Did he actually say that or are you just being snarky?

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:42:19pm

re: #115 freetoken

America, 2016:

Court says KKK’s free speech rights violated, can adopt Georgia highway based on legal technicality

Well, I can’t think of one redeeming quality of the Klan (maybe cleaning up a highway in Georgia might be it). That said, as long as the Klan is not specifically an illegal organisation, they have the same free speech rights as everyone else, which would include putting their name on a highway clean-up sign.

That said, states have rules about how often groups must do those clean-ups, and if they don’t do them, that would be grounds for complaints to have the sign removed.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:42:32pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Did he actually say that or are you just being snarky?

Snark. I love mocking the son of a gun. Sorry.

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:42:44pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Did he actually say that or are you just being snarky?

It really is impossible to tell, isn’t it?

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:43:20pm

re: #125 ObserverArt

Snark. I love mocking the son of a gun. Sorry.

Damn you should have warned me but we are talking about the guy who did say we would get tired of winning with him.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:43:46pm

re: #126 Reality Based Steve

It really is impossible to tell, isn’t it?

RBS

He’s just sooo easy!

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:44:06pm

re: #124 Anymouse

Well, I can’t think of one redeeming quality of the Klan (maybe cleaning up a highway in Georgia might be it). That said, as long as the Klan is not specifically an illegal organisation, they have the same free speech rights as everyone else, which would include putting their name on a highway clean-up sign.

That said, states have rules about how often groups must do those clean-ups, and if they don’t do them, that would be grounds for complaints to have the sign removed.

as much as I hate littering, I think if I drove that section of highway, all the accumulated cups, cans, wrappers and newspapers that litter my van would accidentally fly out the window.

RBS

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A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:44:28pm

Posted this to a dead thread, so trying again.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:44:44pm

Long night of thunderstorms it looks like, according to radar:
wunderground.com

I live at the crosshair in the upper right of the radar picture.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:45:02pm
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:45:07pm

SMOTI to the Trump train rescue:

Because if there’s anyone who will spew/believe this crap, it’s Hoft.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:46:19pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Showing yet again he doesn’t understand jackshit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:46:56pm

re: #133 lawhawk

SMOTI to the Trump train rescue:

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Because if there’s anyone who will spew/believe this crap, it’s Hoft.

Ryan’s a fucking coward anyhow. Waited a long time to denounce Trump for this.

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Skip Intro  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:47:59pm

re: #133 lawhawk

The competition to be Trump’s Goebbels is fierce, and I’m just talking about the cable networks.

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:48:34pm

re: #54 Jenner7

Reminder. Rallies don’t reach everyone, Trump. You have no clue how to run a campaign.

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I guess we lucked out living in the (taken-for-granted) NYC media market: most of our airwaves have been mercifully free of political ads: looks like its the folks in the Boston market (presumably NH) and Iowa who’ve been the luckiest. I can’t recall seeing but a tiny handful of (if any) political pitches all season. So far.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:48:36pm

Charlotte/Dallas NC, area lizards, heads up:

GASTON COUNTY—A Shelby Navy veteran needs some help finding his service dog.

David Dowell says he suffers from PTSD after two tours in Iraq and work in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

Dowell says he went to his first fireworks show in years in Dallas, Monday, but his dog Milka got spooked and ran away.

Dowell says it’s very difficult to operate without his dog.

“Having a service dog gives you your life back. And it gives you your life back without the medication, without the heavy narcotics and all the different thing the VA gives you. She is my best medicine,” he said.

If you’ve seen Milka (pictured above) Dallas police would like you to give them a call at[no phone numbers allowed].

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:49:05pm

Saddam Hussein is trending.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:49:52pm

re: #139 Stanley Sea

Saddam Hussein is trending.

Did Trump praise him?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:50:37pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Did Trump praise him?

Yup

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:50:42pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Did Trump praise him?

yep

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:50:42pm

This song is still in my head. Last song Umphrey’s McGee played at their two-night run at Red Rocks. The drummer sang the lead vocals.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:51:19pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

Yup

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep

I can’t even be shocked anymore.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:51:27pm

To Belafon…

This is something that someone sent to me after we had to part ways with our dog Cody three years ago. I hope it gives you the same solace it gave me.

“Dogs’ lives are short, too short, but you know that going in. You know the pain is coming, you’re going to lose a dog, and there’s going to be great anguish, so you live fully in the moment with her, never fail to share her joy or delight in her innocence, because you can’t support the illusion that a dog can be your lifelong companion. There’s such beauty in the hard honesty of that, in accepting and giving love while always aware that it comes with an unbearable price. Maybe loving dogs is a way we do penance for all the other illusions we allow ourselves and the mistakes we make because of those illusions.”

- Dean Koontz, from The Darkest Evening of the Year

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Skip Intro  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:51:47pm

Missouri GOP governor candidate sells ‘ISIS hunting permits’

nbc4i.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:51:54pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Did Trump praise him?

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:51:54pm

re: #124 Anymouse

Well, I can’t think of one redeeming quality of the Klan (maybe cleaning up a highway in Georgia might be it). That said, as long as the Klan is not specifically an illegal organisation, they have the same free speech rights as everyone else, which would include putting their name on a highway clean-up sign.

That said, states have rules about how often groups must do those clean-ups, and if they don’t do them, that would be grounds for complaints to have the sign removed.

I have a feeling that for a “Highway Adopted by Georgia KKK” sign, getting it removed is not going to be a problem - I’m sure there will be numerous citizen volunteers ready to help “decorate” the KKK’s sign….

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Thanos  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:52:00pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Did Trump praise him?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:52:22pm
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:52:38pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Did Trump praise him?

How’d you guess? He did. He praised genocidal dictator who killed hundreds of thousands and was convicted of war crimes.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:52:43pm

Time for my village board meeting … back later

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:53:11pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sweet Christ.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:53:45pm

re: #151 lawhawk

How’d you guess? He did. He praised genocidal dictator who killed hundreds of thousands and was convicted of war crimes.

Well Trump’s never met an authoritarian regime he hasn’t liked.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:54:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:54:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:54:52pm

re: #149 Thanos

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He’s such a fucking asshole. Really, it just sucks that so much of our country is going to vote GOP anyhow because I don’t see anyway he can lose all 50 states like he deserves to.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:55:16pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Says someone supporting Trump.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:55:19pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Osama Bin Laden wasn’t read his rights either. And guess who was involved with that operation as Secretary of State?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:55:23pm

re: #146 Skip Intro

Lord Grantham’s dog is dead. Isis was knocked off in the fifth season of Downton Abbey.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:55:55pm
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:55:57pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:56:25pm

Chris Hays is interviewing Rick Wilson on the dumpster fire

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:56:47pm

re: #162 lawhawk

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Will we see the glue being put on Sean before he proceeds to kiss DJTII’s ass.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:58:03pm

Is Paul Manafort still with the Trump campaign, or is he lying in a New York alley somewhere stone cold drunk and pissing himself?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:59:06pm

baby!

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Skip Intro  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:00:13pm

re: #160 PhillyPretzel

Lord Grantham’s dog is dead. Isis was knocked off in the fifth season of Downton Abbey.

Figures. Typical Republican, selling something totally worthless.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:00:35pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

baby!

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Nice one. Congrats to him and his family.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:05:50pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is beautiful. Congrats to them. :)

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:08:14pm

re: #165 ObserverArt

Is Paul Manafort still with the Trump campaign, or is he lying in a New York alley somewhere stone cold drunk and pissing himself?

Manafort’s an amoral mercenary who sold himself to killers long ago. Trump is nothing by comparison to his other clients.

“…Many of the world’s dictators eventually became his clients. “Name a dictator and Black, Manafort will name the account,” Levine wrote. (Levine’s piece, published in Spy, featured a sidebar ranking the ethical behavior of Washington lobbyists: It found Black, Manafort the worst of the bunch.) The client list included Philippine strongman Ferdinand Marcos (with a $900,000 yearly contract) and the despots of the Dominican Republic, Nigeria, Kenya, Equatorial Guinea, and Somalia. When the Center for Public Integrity detailed the firm’s work, it titled the report “The Torturers’ Lobby.”slate.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:09:00pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:09:27pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

Charlotte/Dallas NC, area lizards, heads up:

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um… I’d think a supposed “PTSD service dog” who gets spooked and runs away during fireworks… maybe wasn’t trained properly?

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:09:53pm
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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:10:30pm

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:11:53pm

re: #174 Belafon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:12:08pm

re: #174 Belafon

{{{more gentle hugs}}}

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:12:47pm

Ole Sheriff Joe is at it again

Arpaio says affixing the flag to the uniforms is about honoring the nation’s heritage.

I beg to differ

From 4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:13:59pm

re: #151 lawhawk

How’d you guess? He did. He praised genocidal dictator who killed hundreds of thousands and was convicted of war crimes.

I seem to remember Sadaam also killed his sons-in-law, for being insufficiently loyal and supportive.

Perhaps this is why Jared tweeted out that statement.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:14:56pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:15:10pm

re: #170 jaunte

Manafort’s an amoral mercenary who sold himself to killers long ago. Trump is nothing by comparison to his other clients.

Yeah. And even scum like him can’t compete with the Donald. Manafort was hired to clear coat the Trump campaign and make it appear legit with a nice gloss on it. He can’t control Trump, no one can. I’d love to hear some of the meetings around that bunch. That is if they even meet. They could run the campaign by phone. Or mail!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:15:18pm

Trump has exposed the inner fascist authoritarian mindset of the American right. In a way, I’m grateful for that but in another way, I’m horrified.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:15:28pm

re: #174 Belafon

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:16:45pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:17:06pm

re: #173 Jenner7

Thanks for proving that Republican foreign policy is catastrophic.

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danarchy  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:19:31pm

re: #172 sagehen

um… I’d think a supposed “PTSD service dog” who gets spooked and runs away during fireworks… maybe wasn’t trained properly?

I am guessing it was more of a therapy dog than a service dog. The terms get mashed together a lot, but are definitely different and subject to different levels of training and assessment.

On another note, I took my dog with me to a fireworks show on the fourth when she was only 6 months old…horrible idea, I think she was traumatized. The weekend of the fourth is really tough on her every year now. Maybe it would have been anyhow, but I still feel bad. Oddly enough, she isn’t too bothered by thunder storms.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:20:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:20:30pm
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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:21:11pm

re: #185 danarchy

Caramel didn’t like thunder or fireworks. Rex, our other dog, doesn’t care.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:21:26pm

Moonie Times lies, derps, freepers go apeshit:
Matt Damon calls for U.S. to ban guns ‘in one fell swoop’

Hollywood actor Matt Damon used a press conference in Australia over the Fourth of July weekend to discuss his desire for a massive confiscation of U.S. guns. “You guys did it here in one fell swoop [in 1996] and I wish that could happen in my country, but it’s such a personal issue for people that we cannot talk about it sensibly,” Mr. Damon said during a promotional engagement in Sydney for the movie “Jason Bourne.” The action star went on to say people get too “emotional” when it comes to “not selling AK47s to people on terror watchlists.”

Problem: Australia has not enacted a general ban on guns, let alone staged a “massive confiscation.” They did ban semi-automatic firearms, and bought (not “confiscated”) the ones that were out there. Freepers of course are either unaware of, or do not care about, the facts:

The obligatory shot at the Hildabeast:

“Now that Hilary will not be indicted, this is actually one step closer to reality”

.

Let’s hear it for the Constitution, but starting with Amendment 2:

“How about we ban Hollywood movies in one fell swoop?”

A real charmer:

“Ah, that’s it. This picture [of Damon] clearly shows evidence of Down’s Syndrome.
He really is a drooling half-wit.
Good thing dubbing was invented. Wonder what his real voice sounds like.”

Obviously freepers would loathe Cambridge, England and Mass both. They are whole towns full of smart people:

“What does anyone expect? The little snot is from Cambridge.”

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:21:27pm

HIllary was getting too much attention.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:23:26pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hillary’s opps research doesn’t even have to research Trump. They just put on the TV. Good living if you got that job.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:23:51pm

re: #190 jaunte

HIllary was getting too much attention.

Probably just as simple & narcissistic as that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:24:54pm

re: #189 Shiplord Kirel

Moonie Times lies, derps, freepers go apeshit:
Matt Damon calls for U.S. to ban guns ‘in one fell swoop’

Problem: Australia has not enacted a general ban on guns, let alone staged a “massive confiscation.” They did ban semi-automatic firearms, and bought (not “confiscated”) the ones that were out there. Freepers of course are either unaware of, or do not care about, the facts:

The obligatory shot at the Hildabeast:

.

Let’s hear it for the Constitution, but starting with Amendment 2:

A real charmer:

Obviously freepers would loathe Cambridge, England and Mass both. They are whole towns full of smart people:

I can’t really argue with what Damon is saying. People are TOO emotional on the issue and it’s alot of the people who are TOO damn emotional who use every time a Democratic official talks critically about gun violence as an excuse to buy more guns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:25:17pm
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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:25:28pm

re: #189 Shiplord Kirel

Matt’s opinion counts no more or less than Wayne LaPierre’s. Let’s split the difference.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:26:07pm

Nice!

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:26:30pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Schwartzzz?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:26:48pm

re: #195 Belafon

Matt’s opinion counts no more or less than Wayne LaPierre’s. Let’s split the difference.

Indeed.

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nicdanger  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:26:48pm

re: #15 Belafon

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:26:58pm

Ah, twitter, I see.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:27:25pm

I’m not saying I agree with gun confiscation but I sure as hell do think there’s a lot of unhealthy attitudes about guns in this coutnry.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:28:20pm

Reminding myself to ALWAYS get screenshots of tweets from racists. Because they often delete them when exposed.

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:28:48pm
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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:29:01pm

R delegates are revolting…

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danarchy  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:31:09pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

Nice!

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reminds me of this story I heard on the radio this weekend.

kare11.com

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:31:55pm
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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:32:21pm

re: #204 jaunte

You said it. They stink on ice.

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:32:29pm
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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:33:47pm

Feeling victimized by all the political correctness at the Trump rally:

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:33:56pm

re: #195 Belafon

Matt’s opinion counts no more or less than Wayne LaPierre’s. Let’s split the difference.

The difference is that people typically tell the truth about LaPierre’s opinions. Anyone who suggests any kind of gun control, otoh, is automatically calling for forcible confiscation of everything more powerful than a short slingshot.
My take on Damon’s remarks is that he would favor an Australian style buy-out on semi-auto guns.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:34:28pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Hillary’s opps research doesn’t even have to research Trump. They just put on the TV. Good living if you got that job.

The problem is keeping up with what goes on the TV

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BeachDem  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:34:28pm

re: #204 jaunte

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R delegates are revolting…

They certainly are.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:35:10pm

re: #205 danarchy

reminds me of this story I heard on the radio this weekend.

kare11.com

That was great!

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:35:17pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

Reminding myself to ALWAYS get screenshots of tweets from racists. Because they often delete them when exposed.

Odd behavior when most of them bitch about political correctness and first amendment rights. When called for their crap they go and pull it themselves. A little bit of their own politically correct censorship I guess.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:35:44pm

re: #211 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

The problem is keeping up with what goes on the TV

And reducing it to 30 or 60 second segments.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:37:06pm

re: #206 jaunte

Jared Yates Sexton @JYSexton
Supporters chanting “Ho ho Hillary Clinton is a ho”
8:57 PM - 5 Jul 2016
15 15 Retweets 11 11 likes

Sure to help the female vote.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:37:07pm

Cleveland is going to be such a shit show…

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:38:07pm

Here is the complaint

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:38:20pm

Short list becoming desperate list.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:38:44pm

re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg

I can believe it. Live from Cleveland it is the Donald show …/////

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:39:38pm
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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:43:34pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:45:28pm

re: #212 BeachDem

This convention can’t start soon enough

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:49:25pm

re: #211 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

The problem is keeping up with what goes on the TV

True, information overkill.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:49:59pm

re: #222 Jenner7

Toluse Olorunnipa @ToluseO
Paul Ryan says Jason Chaffetz will be calling FBI Director Comey to the Hill for hearings about Hillary Clinton’s emails
9:32 PM - 5 Jul 2016
46 46 Retweets 31 31 likes

I bet it never comes to pass. This is Republican saber rattling.

They would be eating their own and it would also open them up for many questions about how emails were handled under a previous administration.

But then again, they seem to have a target on their toes and a gun at the ready.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:50:09pm

Like most dictators, Saddam Hussein tortured and killed “terrorists”—any leftist or moderate group that talked about human freedoms, plus any minority…like the Kurds and the Iraqi Jews…that could be used as scapegoat for the plunder system inherent to their governance—while only landing on violent extremists when their violence couldn’t be appropriated for or directed against enemies of the state.

I don’t think this is lost on the audience, that they’re enthusiastic because there’s a gap in their imagination. I think it embodies what they want: a state that’s free to suppress and disappear, so long as it doesn’t target “real Americans.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:50:18pm

re: #222 Jenner7

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Christ.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:50:41pm

re: #222 Jenner7

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For months: “Comey’s a great guy, unimpeachable, totally trustworthy!”

Today: “THAT FUCKER SOLD US OUT! KEELHAUL HIM!”

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:50:54pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

That’s the funniest response I’ve seen. Bravo!

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:51:21pm

re: #222 Jenner7

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:53:52pm
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bratwurst  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:55:13pm

Are we really surprised that Trump admires Saddam Hussein? The way he and others on the right speak so wistfully of the dear departed Muammar Gaddafi, we had to know it was just a matter of time…especially since they are no longer required to pretend to like W. or his war.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:56:33pm

So the House GOP is going to haul Comey before them to grill him on why he did not give them the promised indictment, after months of assuring anybody who’d listen about how he doesn’t play politics and his decision would be based upon the evidence. This is how you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, tossing aside a very bad report to scream that you didn’t get the pony you wanted.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:56:38pm

re: #232 bratwurst

Are we really surprised that Trump admires Saddam Hussein? The way he and others on the right speak so wistfully of the dear departed Muammar Gaddafi, we had to know it was just a matter of time…especially since they are no longer required to pretend to like W. or his war.

Yeah I wasn’t surprised at all. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if by the end of the campaign he speaks well of Stalin.

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:56:56pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

Nice!

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I remember several years ago doing the BRAT (Bike Ride Around Tennessee) and out layover day was at Reelfoot Lake State Park. It’s a raptor rehab center, and the chief ranger there gave us a great presentation. Talked about the work they do, then brought out some of the birds. The first was a little screech owl, everybody went “ohh and Ahhh”, then a barn owl, and he looked a little more serious. Then a red tailed hawk, and he was pretty impressive.

Finally he brought out a bald eagle that they have had for 10 years, and all of us just moved back on our benches as far as we could. That thing looked at you like he was figuring out the angle and time it would take to get there.

The ranger explained that if the bird has a clean break on the wing bones, they have a very good chance of being released back into the wild. A break in the ‘shoulder’ joint usually meant they would spend the rest of their lives in the center, they never healed quite right.

RBS

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:58:46pm

re: #233 Targetpractice

So the House GOP is going to haul Comey before them to grill him on why he did not give them the promised indictment, after months of assuring anybody who’d listen about how he doesn’t play politics and his decision would be based upon the evidence. This is how you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, tossing aside a very bad report to scream that you didn’t get the pony you wanted.

Like I said earlier today. There MUST be an investigation and hearings to determine what was deficient in the previous investigation and hearings. Only then will we find the truth.

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:59:12pm

SURE STALIN KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BUT HE KEPT RADICAL ISLAM DOWN.
*Crowd applauds*

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:00:15pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Yeah I wasn’t surprised at all. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if by the end of the campaign he speaks well of Stalin.

Say what you like about Stalin, and he was a bad man, a very bad man, but show me one democrat that could move the entire industrial base of a city during a war. He did it, because he wasn’t afraid of what people would think of him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:01:06pm

Some of these conservatves man…

They know more about abortion than doctors.
more about the law than Judges, more about war than the Military and apparently more about investigations than the FBI.

What the fuck is it with these people?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:01:53pm

re: #239 Eclectic Cyborg

Some of these conservatves man…

They know more about abortion than doctors.
more about the law than Judges, more about war than the Military and apparently more about investigations than the FBI.

What the fuck is it with these people?

No kidding.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:02:36pm

“The FBI will have the final say!”

“The FBI said there’s nothing criminal there.”

“THE FBI INVESTIGATION WAS RIGGED! WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!”

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:04:36pm

re: #239 Eclectic Cyborg

Some of these conservatves man…

They know more about abortion than doctors.
more about the law than Judges, more about war than the Military and apparently more about investigations than the FBI.

What the fuck is it with these people?

Their media has been telling them that they’re smarter than educated people for many years, so now they don’t know to stay silent when they have nothing to contribute.

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:05:27pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:06:16pm

re: #218 gocart mozart

Everyone should read that complaint, sworn affidavit by the victim and by the woman who procured underaged girls for Epstein. If any of that is true, both Trump and Epstein are monsters (We already know about Epstein) but damn. This is a time bomb that will destroy Trump if the media will ever cover it.*

* The only other possibility is that it is all lies in which case it is clear cut defamation and the other woman is confessing under oath to procuring underage rape victims for billionaires at great risk for her safety and no obvious benefit (she is not a plaintiff but a co-conspirator with perhaps a guilty conscious.)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:08:32pm

“Mr. Trump, the new president of the Philippines has called on vigilante groups, er, “citizens,” to kill all drug dealers whenever and wherever they are found; would you support a similar program in the USA?”

“President Duterte is a bold thinker and people say he may be on to something so we’re going to be looking into it….”

eta: newsweek.com

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bratwurst  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:10:41pm

Ugh:

Please see my recent page to learn why 200 retired Israeli military, police and intelligence leaders (including every living former director of Shin Bet) think this is a disastrous idea.

I know it is hard to believe that they know more about Israel than the GOP, but check it out anyway. /

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:11:22pm

re: #244 gocart mozart

Everyone should read that complaint, sworn affidavit by the victim and by the woman who procured underaged girls for Epstein. If any of that is true, both Trump and Epstein are monsters (We already know about Epstein) but damn. This is a time bomb that will destroy Trump if the media will ever cover it.*

* The only other possibility is that it is all lies in which case it is clear cut defamation and the other woman is confessing under oath to procuring underage rape victims for billionaires at great risk for her safety and no obvious benefit (she is not a plaintiff but a co-conspirator with perhaps a guilty conscious.)

Bill Clinton is also said to have been a guest of Mr. Epstein on “Underage Sex Slave Island”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:13:05pm
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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:14:17pm

re: #246 bratwurst

Ugh:

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Please see my recent page to learn why 200 retired Israeli military, police and intelligence leaders (including every living former director of Shin Bet) think this is a disastrous idea.

I know it is hard to believe that they know more about Israel than the GOP, but check it out anyway. /

They are all just too fragile. ///

RBS

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:14:54pm

re: #246 bratwurst

Ugh:

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Please see my recent page to learn why 200 retired Israeli military, police and intelligence leaders (including every living former director of Shin Bet) think this is a disastrous idea.

I know it is hard to believe that they know more about Israel than the GOP, but check it out anyway. /

The party that spent years making excuses for apartheid is doing so again. My surprise, etc.

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TedStriker  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:14:59pm

re: #238 Reality Based Steve

Say what you like about Stalin, and he was a bad man, a very bad man, but show me one democrat that could move the entire industrial base of a city during a war. He did it, because he wasn’t afraid of what people would think of him.

Not just a city, almost all of the USSR’s mission-critical industrial base.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:15:55pm

re: #250 Targetpractice

The party that spent years making excuses for apartheid is doing so again. My surprise, etc.

They had to for anti-communist reasons. //

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:16:14pm

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

Bill Clinton is also said to have been a guest of Mr. Epstein on “Underage Sex Slave Island”

But there is no evidence of that.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:24:42pm
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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:25:20pm

Pound Sterling is down to $1.28, and 129JPY.

With the Tory leadership resigning, the Labour leader under attack and blindly holding onto fantasies, and now the UKIP leadership in turmoil… this is what secessionist fever hath wrought.

And more.

This is what isolationists, whether in the UK or in the US or anywhere, has to face: increases in population require closer cooperation across boundaries in order for specialization to occur to produce the goods and services needed.

Ultimately the fear of the other, xenophobia, is bad for the economic engines needed in our growing planetary population.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:26:20pm

re: #204 jaunte

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R delegates are revolting…

They certainly are!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:26:50pm

re: #256 Big Beautiful Door

They certainly are!

They stink on ice!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:29:06pm

re: #255 freetoken

$1.28!?!?!

This is really bad. What is the lowest, excluding the 10-20 years after WWII, that the Pound has gotten vis-a-vis the Dollar?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:30:17pm

re: #235 Reality Based Steve

At my sister’s job out here, she helped with the raptors (since they had a few - like those - that were part of the education center). Her primary bird was an owl - larger than a screech owl, but I can’t remember the exact type. The screech owl was just a little ball of fluff.

At the very end of the year, each intern got to hold the golden eagle on the glove in the mews. She thankfully had the cast come off two days before, so we looked a little bit the other way on the weight restrictions on lifting and wrapping and she held the eagle for a minute because when else are you going to get to do that?

Hell of a bird.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:31:19pm

re: #255 freetoken

And now add two more UK real estate funds that have closed withdraws in addition to Standard Life:

Reacting to a rush by investors to redeem their money, M&G Investments and Aviva Investors followed Standard Life Investments in suspending trading in commercial-property funds that together total 9.1 billion pounds ($11.9 billion dollars). Industry analysts have warned that London office values could fall by as much as 20 percent within three years of the U.K. leaving the EU.

‘Fire Sale’ Risk

A risk for the economy is that the property funds are forced to sell assets at “fire sale rates,” hitting the commercial sector, said Robin Henry, a partner in the London law firm Collyer Bristow.

Aviva bemoaned a “lack of immediate liquidity,” while M&G noted redemptions “have risen markedly because of high levels of uncertainty.” Regulators discussed the Brexit fallout with asset managers on Tuesday in previously scheduled meetings.

During the last financial crisis, real estate funds were forced to suspend operations after withdrawals surged, contributing to a property-market slump that saw values drop more than 40 percent from their peak in the U.K.

London property prices were batshit insane to begin with; so this could be the bubble bursting/market correcting.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:31:56pm

So fucking tired of Sanders supporters continuing to credulously swallow and regurgitate dishonest dumb-fuckery. Because of problems within the secure system Clinton was asking for nonsecure information be stripped out and sent to her so she could create the talking points she needed. She was in no way asking that classified information be mislabeled so that it could be sent to her in violation of the rules.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:32:32pm

re: #258 Ziggy_TARDIS

Pretty damn low
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danarchy  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:32:50pm

re: #258 Ziggy_TARDIS

$1.28!?!?!

This is really bad. What is the lowest, excluding the 10-20 years after WWII, that the Pound has gotten vis-a-vis the Dollar?

in February 1985 it dropped to $1.05

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:33:27pm

Does Vox have a soul?

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:34:33pm

re: #262 Eric The Fruit Bat

The tail end of that graph is a bit short it appears of the most recent changes.

Here’s a 12 year chart:

finance.yahoo.com

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:34:36pm

re: #262 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s tap-dancing very close now to falling below the early 80’s record.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:34:38pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

In this case, Wikileaks couldn’t bring their “A” game and got horrified. Better luck next time, Julian.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:34:48pm

re: #258 Ziggy_TARDIS

In the early 80’s, the pound actually sunk down to $1.06 against the dollar. Wow, that Monetarism of Milton Friedman sure worked wonders…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:35:02pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Yeah I wasn’t surprised at all. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if by the end of the campaign he speaks well of Stalin.

A great leader, and a winner, just like me!/

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:35:40pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

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So fucking tired of Sanders supporters continuing to credulously swallow and regurgitate dishonest dumb-fuckery. Because of problems within the secure system Clinton was asking for nonsecure information be stripped out and sent to her so she could create the talking points she needed. She was in no way asking that classified information be mislabeled so that it could be sent to her in violation of the rules.

Uh oh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:39:38pm

re: #268 Joe Bacon

In the early 80’s, the pound actually sunk down to $1.06 against the dollar. Wow, that Monetarism of Milton Friedman sure worked wonders…

The “Greatness” of Maggie Thatcher.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:42:21pm

re: #245 Barefoot Grin

“Mr. Trump, the new president of the Philippines has called on vigilante groups, er, “citizens,” to kill all drug dealers whenever and wherever they are found; would you support a similar program in the USA?”

“President Duterte is a bold thinker and people say he may be on to something so we’re going to be looking into it….”

eta: newsweek.com

You scared the shit out of me. I thought that was a real quote.

How fucked up is that.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:44:18pm

re: #272 MsJ

You scared the shit out of me. I thought that was a real quote.

How fucked up is that.

Poe’s Law has gotten an extreme workout in the last year.

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:45:07pm

NYT declares:

F.B.I. Findings Damage Many of Hillary Clinton’s Claims

[…]

Mr. Comey’s announcement was, arguably, the worst possible good news Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign could have hoped for: no criminal charges, but a pointed refutation of statements like one she flatly made last August. “I did not send classified material,” she said then.

“Even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know, or should know, that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it,” Mr. Comey said, suggesting that Mrs. Clinton and her aides were “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”

[…]

Well, ok, but that a government official may have information that should be classified but is not formally so is not uncommon.

And in fact, it is probably so common that many Congressmen and staffers could fall under this damnation.

As well as many officials in the State department, or even the Defense.

Once I had a former aide to the CNI tell me that they were cautious about what to tell Congress because of what could get out.

Fundamentally, while the issue is real, it is also ubiquitous.

This is what the NYT headline and writer seems to miss - Hillary Clinton is like so many other government officials - at times careless about information control.

In my world, this is about the least damning of faults of a politician. Because ultimately the entire culture of classification is itself counter-productive to an open society, and we probably have kept far too much way too classified.

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:45:16pm

re: #272 MsJ

You scared the shit out of me. I thought that was a real quote.

How fucked up is that.

Like I posted upthread. It’s gotten so you really can’t tell the parody from the actual product. Trump is the living, breathing embodiment of Poe’s Law.

RBS

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:46:05pm

re: #265 freetoken

The real problems for the EU right now is (1) Italy’s banks desperately need to do something about their NPL’s-at least one bank is ready to collapse and the others are on life support; (2) SIFI Deutsche Bank’s market capitalization is $18 billion-seriously. By comparison, LinkedIn’s market cap is $26 billion (of course, Microsoft will in all likelihood pull a Nokia and wind up writing a good chunk of that off once it swallows it and then figures out what it’s going to do with it….)

Strange times we’re living in…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:49:09pm

re: #272 MsJ

You scared the shit out of me. I thought that was a real quote.

How fucked up is that.

For a brief moment I was wondering if I had heard him say it somewhere. Anyway, he will.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:52:23pm
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Lidane  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:53:15pm

*facepalm*

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:55:21pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:56:12pm
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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:56:59pm

Over at Free Repugnant, they are their usual nuanced selves about this.

Lock ‘n Load time is rapidly approaching. I used to dread it, didn’t want this fight to happen. Prayed it wouldn’t.
Now?

Bring it on. It’s about f***ing time.
~~~~~~~~

And they were SO confident that the FBI would move to have her charged.

RBS

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:57:03pm
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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:57:28pm

re: #279 Lidane

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:57:40pm

re: #278 jaunte

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Crooked.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:57:53pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Yeah I wasn’t surprised at all. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if by the end of the campaign he speaks well of Stalin.

Hey, he could get things done, great things, better than you would believe. When some of his airplane flunkies fell behind on deliveries, he sent them a letter:

You have let down our country and our Red Army. You have the nerve not to manufacture IL-2s until now. Our Red Army now needs IL-2 aircraft like the air it breathes, like the bread it eats. Shenkman produces one IL-2 a day and Tretyakov builds one or two MiG-3s daily. It is a mockery of our country and the Red Army. I ask you not to try the government’s patience, and demand that you manufacture more ILs. This is my final warning.

With him, it wasn’t “you’re fired,” it was “your firing squad.” Production went up, way up. It was HUGE.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:58:16pm
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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:58:18pm

re: #280 gocart mozart

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“These guys could fuck up a baked potato” - David Mamet (via @JamesWolcott )

They would both wrap it in foil AND put it in the microwave.

RBS

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:58:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:58:41pm

re: #279 Lidane

*facepalm*

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Not very smart are they.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:01:48pm
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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:03:23pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:03:59pm
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majii  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:04:01pm

re: #288 Reality Based Steve

“They would both wrap it in foil AND put it in the microwave.”

After destroying the microwave, they’d call the manufacturer and argue with, lie to, and threaten, the rep, if they didn’t receive a refund or a replacement microwave. These guys are too predictable.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:04:05pm

Oh crap, just realized I haven’t bought my “Mega Millions” ticket for tonight

If my damn number win more than $2 tonight I’m gonna be really annoyed

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:04:47pm

Well gang, I’m off to read for a bit, then to bed. Working on the “Incarnations of Inmortality” series, hadn’t read it in years, still find it enjoyable.

Be good, or at least be kind.

RBS

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:07:52pm

re: #292 Kragar

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“Donald, we need you to keep your yap shut for a few days so we can make major headway with this email business.”

“Sure thing. Oh, by the way, I loved how Saddam did things!”

“*sigh*”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:08:29pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:08:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:09:30pm

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

Saddam has changed!

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Video

Aww memories.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:09:44pm

CNN has totally gone off its rocker:

Meanwhile, right now I’m watching CNN and the anchor is asking Jeff Toobin if it’s possible Trump is right and that Hillary Clinton did bribe Lynch and get Comey to recommend against prosecution.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:10:02pm

re: #299 FormerDirtDart

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Who have thousands of dead bodies on their hands but who’s counting? //

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:10:15pm

WHEW!!
Not a single number…

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:11:13pm

The GOP’s nominee is praising dictators, is open to supporting apartheid, and has an attention span shorter than a gnat’s lifespan. In other words, they have finally found their heir to St. Ron’s legacy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:12:35pm

re: #304 Targetpractice

The GOP’s nominee is praising dictators, is open to supporting apartheid, and has an attention span shorter than a gnat’s lifespan. In other words, they have finally found their heir to St. Ron’s legacy.

Ouch but true.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:14:34pm

re: #304 Targetpractice

The GOP’s nominee is praising dictators, is open to supporting apartheid, and has an attention span shorter than a gnat’s lifespan. In other words, they have finally found their heir to St. Ron’s legacy.

But Hillary used the wrong salad fork, so both sides.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:14:54pm

Some super-pac needs to release an ad featuring Trump’s statement and images of gassed Kurds

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:15:17pm

I was reading the Huffpo piece on the Trump sexual assault allegations earlier today and I get the impression that the big media outlets are afraid to touch the case because, as the piece says, earlier complaints have been dropped. I guess nobody wants to be the next Rolling Stone.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:17:03pm

re: #301 Eric The Fruit Bat

CNN has totally gone off its rocker:

CNN is going full Fox News.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:17:08pm

When the GOP conducts the “autopsy” on this election, they’re gonna have to classify it as “suicide.”

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:17:14pm

Back from marathon village board meeting. On next month’s agenda: select a new vice-mayor (they will probably pick me because I will be in Canada and won’t be able to protest, unless I call in to the board meeting).

Gotta go back to the top of the tread and read all the stuff I missed. BRB.

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:18:00pm

re: #309 Big Beautiful Door

CNN is going full Fox News.

Because in America there is a market for trash, but not so much for hard news.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:18:07pm

I’m not going to praise Hussein, but while he was in power Iran had a legitimate rival in the Middle East.

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majii  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:18:52pm

re: #307 FormerDirtDart

The MSM can’t talk about Trump’s love for, and praise of, vicious dictators because it’s journalists and pundits are way too busy holding HRC’s trial, acting as prosecutors, and working on finding her guilty of something, anything. Truth always comes in second compared to MSM’s desire for ratings.

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:20:15pm

re: #313 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m not going to praise Hussein, but while he was in power Iran had a legitimate rival in the Middle East.

Well, the first question is, why does Iran need a “legitimate rival”?

Second question is - what about KSA? Pakistan? Turkey and the Caucus states? Afghanistan? Kazakhstan?

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:20:21pm

re: #313 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m not going to praise Hussein, but while he was in power Iran had a legitimate rival in the Middle East.

I once classified Saddam as a “load-bearing dictator” and I stand by that. So much of the problems we face today in the Middle East are because we recklessly knocked him out of power without a concrete plan to deal with the fallout. Then we doubled down on our error by running everybody with even a modicum of understanding of how politics worked in Iraq out of power, so that the only ones left were either inept, corrupt, or both.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:20:48pm

re: #313 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

And in his later years, he was a pioneer of the underground tiny house concept.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:21:57pm

re: #317 jaunte

And in his later years, he was a pioneer of the underground tiny house concept.

Hobbit slum.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:22:13pm

Looks like we have another cop murder on video.

Double safe because you have to click the link in the tweet

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:23:14pm

re: #316 Targetpractice

I once classified Saddam as a “load-bearing dictator” and I stand by that. So much of the problems we face today in the Middle East are because we recklessly knocked him out of power without a concrete plan to deal with the fallout. Then we doubled down on our error by running everybody with even a modicum of understanding of how politics worked in Iraq out of power, so that the only ones left were either inept, corrupt, or both.

And we did it as carelessly as a toddler knocking down a castle made of wooden bricks, assuming it would be just like liberating Paris. What idiocy, what arrogance.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:23:33pm

re: #319 Stanley Sea

Looks like we have another cop murder on video.

Double safe because you have to click the link in the tweet

[Embedded content]

State Rep. C. Denise Marcelle, who was briefed by the police chief, said that the officers were wearing body cameras but the cameras fell off during the struggle and did not capture the shooting.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:25:32pm

re: #321 Stanley Sea

How convenient.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:25:50pm

re: #316 Targetpractice

Carelessness with emails? Yeah sure.

Carelessness with a full-scale invasion and war against a country we were told had WMD and ties to terrorists but didn’t? Oh. Let’s talk about the emails some more.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:13pm

Now seeing Bernie fans outright retweeting right wing attacks on Hillary Clinton from Trump fans. The moronic convergence is complete.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:25pm

re: #315 freetoken

I argued against deposing Hussein for a couple reasons. In no particular order:
Hussein kept Iraq in one piece. He was the only thing between Iraq and another failed state like Afghanistan.
Iran and Iraq sort of served as checks and balances against each other. As much as we dislike the Saudis’ support of terrorism, we needed stability in any form in that area for a lot of reasons.
Invading Iraq would be a distraction from the real threats to our national security like Pakistan. Pakistan already HAD nuclear weapons and an unstable government.
In 1991 the same crew who that Desert Storm had to stop where it did because we couldn’t afford to depose Hussein then threw away their own counsel and urged for regime change.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:27pm

re: #319 Stanley Sea

Ugh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:29:24pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:30:15pm

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

I feel like an absolutely horrible person for laughing at that.

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:30:30pm

The classics never get old, they just need occasional updates.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:30:42pm

The hijackers of the Achille Lauro singled out Klinghoffer for murder, apparently because he was a sheriff.
en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:31:00pm

re: #328 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I feel like an absolutely horrible person for laughing at that.

It’s because you read it in his voice.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:31:49pm

re: #329 gocart mozart

The classics never get old, they just need occasional updates.

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Every death is a presumed Clinton homicide, until proven otherwise.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:32:07pm

re: #330 jaunte

[Embedded content]

The hijackers of the Achille Lauro singled out Klinghoffer for murder, apparently because he was a sheriff.
en.wikipedia.org

He was “tough” on terrorism when it threatened HIS power but happy to use it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:32:11pm

re: #331 HappyWarrior

It’s because you read it in his voice.

I’m doing really well at not actually listening to Trump ever, so instead I read it in my mental version of his voice.

But while I didn’t know anyone, I knew people who did lose loved ones, so I really feel like an awful human being right now. >.>

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:32:39pm

re: #332 Big Beautiful Door

Every death is a presumed Clinton homicide, until proven otherwise.

Oh man, they killed Elie Wiesel, now he won’t be a sheriff in the Trump campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:33:24pm

re: #334 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m doing really well at not actually listening to Trump ever, so instead I read it in my mental version of his voice.

But while I didn’t know anyone, I knew people who did lose loved ones, so I really feel like an awful human being right now. >.>

I just want to know what peak Trump is. He’s praised Qaddafi and now Hussein.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:34:35pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:35:06pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:36:02pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

I just want to know what peak Trump is. He’s praised Qaddafi and now Hussein.

Contemplating peak Trump? That way leads to madness.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:37:00pm

re: #337 jaunte

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They showed that in House of Saddam. Terrifying. You could really see how Saddam took his cues from Stalin in that.

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Lidane  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:37:17pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:37:34pm

Some levity.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:38:19pm

I’m old enough to remember when Republicans insisted that, as bad a fuck-up as Iraq was, Saddam was a guy who needed killing because of all the nasty things that he’d done to his fellow Iraqis. After all, the people of Iraq weren’t supposed to greet us as liberators for dealing with Saddam’s WMDs…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:40:06pm

re: #343 Targetpractice

I’m old enough to remember when Republicans insisted that, as bad a fuck-up as Iraq was, Saddam was a guy who needed killing because of all the nasty things that he’d done to his fellow Iraqis. After all, the people of Iraq weren’t supposed to greet us as liberators for dealing with Saddam’s WMDs…

I’m old enough to remember Democrats being called Saddam sympathizers because they thought the war was a bad idea. My have times changed.

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Lidane  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:40:24pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:40:28pm

“Saddam was a monster! He fed men into paper shredders! Tortured a soccer team! Operated rape rooms! Gassed the Kurds!”

“Yeah, but he also dealt with the terrorists.”

“DAMNIT, DONALD, SHUT UP!”

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TedStriker  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:41:17pm

re: #321 Stanley Sea

Looks like we have another cop murder on video.

Double safe because you have to click the link in the tweet

[Embedded content]

State Rep. C. Denise Marcelle, who was briefed by the police chief, said that the officers were wearing body cameras but the cameras fell off during the struggle and did not capture the shooting.

Uh-huh.

Some cops/PDs really do think they’re ten feet tall, bulletproof and above the law that they’re supposed to enforce, enough to be peddling the same BS and lies every time something like this goes down; unfortunately, they’re mostly been proven right.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:41:52pm

re: #345 Lidane

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Boehner laughing at him over a Scotch.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:44:47pm

Rinsed hears about Donald’s praising of Saddam:

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(((˗ˏˋChankobun ˎˊ˗)))  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:46:17pm
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(((˗ˏˋChankobun ˎˊ˗)))  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:50:40pm

re: #230 Kragar

Aw dammit you beat me to it. Like, I got beaten to an actual, better-than-mine chicken-fucking joke about the same thing.

That’ll teach me to be off playing games when there’s jokes about flightless bird carnality to be made.

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KingKenrod  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:51:53pm

re: #345 Lidane

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Dave In Austin  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:52:18pm

Fukin’A

Facebook Post

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Joe Bacon  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:52:34pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:55:02pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

I just want to know what peak Trump is. He’s praised Qaddafi and now Hussein.

Peak trump is a death at his rally.

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Lidane  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:58:02pm

re: #349 Targetpractice

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:59:45pm

re: #174 Belafon

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re: #214 ObserverArt

Odd behavior when most of them bitch about political correctness and first amendment rights. When called for their crap they go and pull it themselves. A little bit of their own politically correct censorship I guess.

Calls of “PC” is right-wing projection. They self-censor when they find that they have stated some abhorrent position, then claim “liberals just want politically correct speech.”

re: #241 Targetpractice

“The FBI will have the final say!”

“The FBI said there’s nothing criminal there.”

“THE FBI INVESTIGATION WAS RIGGED! WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS!”

The GOP has pandered so long to conspiracy theorists and such they are now victims of their own propaganda.

re: #282 Reality Based Steve

Over at Free Repugnant, they are their usual nuanced selves about this.

Lock ‘n Load time is rapidly approaching. I used to dread it, didn’t want this fight to happen. Prayed it wouldn’t.
Now?

Bring it on. It’s about f***ing time.
~~~~~~~~

And they were SO confident that the FBI would move to have her charged.

RBS

Conservatives again forgetting liberals own guns too, not that we care to use them for things such as objecting to an electoral result.

I made arrangements at tonight’s village board meeting with our village gun shop owner (now on the village board) to keep my shotgun in his shop while I am gone to Canada. (I don’t want to leave it in a house which will be empty for five weeks. I don’t expect a break-in, but if I were to have one my shotgun is not something I would want stolen.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:59:57pm

re: #354 Joe Bacon

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So Reince, how does it feel having a nominee that loves Saddam Hussein?

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:01:45pm

re: #282 Reality Based Steve

Over at Free Repugnant, they are their usual nuanced selves about this.

Lock ‘n Load time is rapidly approaching. I used to dread it, didn’t want this fight to happen. Prayed it wouldn’t.
Now?

Bring it on. It’s about f***ing time.
~~~~~~~~

And they were SO confident that the FBI would move to have her charged.

RBS

It’s very strange how eager they are to start shooting at police.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:03:25pm

re: #359 jaunte

It’s very strange how eager they are to start shooting at police.

They’re going to get the shock of their lives if they decide to go Full Finicum on the police…

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Joe Bacon  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:06:28pm

Here we go again…idiots shooting off fireworks…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:07:41pm

re: #355 Stanley Sea

Peak trump is a death at his rally.

One dose of nightmare fuel incoming.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:08:24pm

re: #362 goddamnedfrank

One dose of nightmare fuel incoming.

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Rats.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:07:03pm

re: #325 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I argued against deposing Hussein for a couple reasons. In no particular order:
Hussein kept Iraq in one piece. He was the only thing between Iraq and another failed state like Afghanistan.
Iran and Iraq sort of served as checks and balances against each other. As much as we dislike the Saudis’ support of terrorism, we needed stability in any form in that area for a lot of reasons.
Invading Iraq would be a distraction from the real threats to our national security like Pakistan. Pakistan already HAD nuclear weapons and an unstable government.
In 1991 the same crew who that Desert Storm had to stop where it did because we couldn’t afford to depose Hussein then threw away their own counsel and urged for regime change.

If you ever wonder why we’re not more widely loved an respected, think about the mindset embodied in this post. I’m not blaming you, because it’s something I’ve said myself, and I certainly understand it.

But think about it - we, meaning the US and the UK and other Western Powers, set up this chess board. We drew the borders, we put different people in power over millions and millions of people because it served OUR interest.

We put the Shah in place in Iran, and maintained him in power over the increasing objections of his people and supported him in brutal repression, or at least turned a blind eye to it, because it served our interest.

Then when the people finally rose up, we were shocked to find they didn’t like us.

So what did we do? We supported Saddam in his war against Iran, again turning a blind eye to gas attacks on the Iranians, because it served our interest.

Then he overstepped by invading Kuwait. Oops.

We painted him as the Next Hitler, gathered a coalition, and kicked his ass back out of Kuwait, but then we stopped. We didn’t overthrow him or help any of the folks we’d urged to rebel to overthrow him either, because that wouldn’t have been in our interest.

So he killed a bunch of them, and we didn’t stop him, because it served our interest.

Then we got the idea we could overthrow him and a Western-style pluralistic democracy would take root there, and that would be in our interest. So we invaded and kicked over the ant hill. And we let the Shiites dominate the government, angering the Sunnis, because it served our interest.

I know it’s a long lifetime too late, but maybe we shouldn’t be so eager to make decisions for tens of millions of people, because we think it’s in our interest?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:12:48pm

re: #362 goddamnedfrank

One dose of nightmare fuel incoming.

#PeakTrump will occur when he’s finally revealed to be a shit-ton of spiders operating cooperatively inside a skin suit.

So you’re saying Trump is Mr. Oogie Boogie?

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sagehen  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:34:32am

re: #364 Blind Frog Belly White

I know it’s a long lifetime too late, but maybe we shouldn’t be so eager to make decisions for tens of millions of people, because we think it’s in our interest?

Or at the very least, when we’re trying to gauge what’s “in our interest”, we should look beyond a six-month horizon.


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