Tuesday Night Afro-Caribbean Tiny Desk Jam: Los Hacheros

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June 30, 2016 by FELIX CONTRERAS • Sometimes it’s necessary to get back to basics. In the case of Los Hacheros, that means returning to the deep groove of Afro-Caribbean music that provides the source material for modern salsa and all of its permutations.

As you’ll see in this video, the band’s dedication to authenticity is masterfully executed with a serious dose of sabor. In fact, the band was so swinging, it was impossible to sit on the sidelines and pass up my own chance to jump in during “Bambulaye” and perform with the band myself. So clear out the furniture and turn up the sound on this video to create your own dance party.

Bambulaye is available now:
iTunes: itunes.apple.com
Amazon: amazon.com

Set List:
“Baila Con Los Hacheros”
“Papote’s Guajira”
“Bambulaye”

Credits:
Producers: Felix Contreras, Niki Walker; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Kara Frame, Colin Marshall; Production Assistant: Jackson Sinnenberg; Photo: NPR.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:14:32pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:19:48pm

So who will play Trump in the biopic?

Half /

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:20:28pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:22:06pm

One of the wingnuts I know had spent the last few weeks referring to the email investigation as the “FBI primary.” Well, it looks like Hillary once again beat her opponents so badly that all they can do is whine about how the vote was “rigged” and treat it as not counting.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:24:47pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:26:36pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:26:59pm

re: #4 Targetpractice

One of the wingnuts I know had spent the last few weeks referring to the email investigation as the “FBI primary.” Well, it looks like Hillary once again beat her opponents so badly that all they can do is whine about how the vote was “rigged” and treat it as not counting.

trump referred to it the same. When referencing Bernie.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:30:29pm

Speaking of Bernie, he’s been awfully quiet since Comey’s speech this morning. And he didn’t rise to the bait during Obama’s stump speech. Somebody might want to check in on him.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:31:12pm

huffingtonpost.com

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc) says he will not say where he stands on the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal until after the election. The issue is a contentious one in Wisconsin.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:32:36pm
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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:32:40pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:33:35pm

have fun

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:35:37pm

re: #11 Kragar

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He’s a fucking side show. What next?

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:36:55pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

have fun

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The Galt Party, namely you precious little snowflakes disappear into the wilderness and rid us of your stupidity.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:37:38pm

This is one of my first follows on twitter.

He posts some great art. Once & a blue moon something political.

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KGxvi  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:38:19pm

re: #9 Anymouse

huffingtonpost.com

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc) says he will not say where he stands on the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal until after the election. The issue is a contentious one in Wisconsin.

Tell me Senator, where do you stand on this important issue?

I’ll tell you in December.

But Senator, the election is in November.

Exactly, and I have to go.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:39:46pm

Urbana, Ill. police arrest a man for burning the flag on Independence Day:

huffingtonpost.com

They allegedly arrested him “for his safety” after he allegedly received death threats. He was charged under a 27-year-old flag burning ordinance long ago declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. (The police noted they had never arrested anyone under that ordinance.)

The prosecutor declined to issue charges, citing the Supreme Court.

Wingnuts in the comments section are going crazy, with variations of “veterans fought for that flag” &c &c &c.

Yeah, I’m a veteran. You know what I care about? Everyone’s speech rights, even when I don’t agree with the speech.

More conservative PC speech concerns.

The government arresting someone for speech is what the I Amendment is about, not private individuals opinions. Conservatives continue to have a problem with that.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:40:53pm
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William Lewis  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:41:16pm

re: #16 KGxvi

It means his bosses from Kansas have already told him to vote for it but not say anything since Feingold will use it against them.

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majii  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:43:09pm

re: #9 Anymouse

He’s withholding that information because he thinks it might hurt him in November. He’s definitely not an example of a profile in courage. He has so little to show for the six years he’s spent in Congress that one of his first campaign ads was focused on how he’s “just a businessman.” The campaign ad was shot in a factory even though Johnson knows that he hasn’t been managing a factory for the last six years.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:43:19pm

re: #19 William Lewis

It means his bosses from Kansas have already told him to vote for it but not say anything since Feingold will use it against them.

But Johnson, a businessman, has backed previous U.S. trade deals and believes that free trade “lifts all boats” and would create jobs.

(from the article)

Uh, Senator Johnson? Not if half of them are tied to the dock; then a rising tide simply sinks those.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:43:40pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:44:05pm

I’d feel better about this election if I didn’t feel like we’re constantly drowning in enabled right-wing memes gleefully accepted as gospel truth by nearly all sides, along with a media hellbent on slobbering over Trump’s hairpiece enough to essentially be all the advertising he needs.

It doesn’t matter if Trump loses at this point since it feels like the right-wing is so wholly resurgent that they might make up losing the president by winning goddamn near everything else on top of wholly owning the discourse and narrative to the exclusion of everything else.

EDIT: Adding on top of that, the whole mess of this election cycle leaves me convinced and terrified that the “millenial” generation may just in fact be even more racist and bigoted than previous ones, both in actual believes and willingness to openly act on said beliefs.

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:45:39pm
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majii  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:45:46pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

I suggest they name their new party “Pity Party, Inc.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:46:27pm

re: #20 majii

He’s withholding that information because he thinks it might hurt him in November. He’s definitely not an example of a profile in courage. He has so little to show for the six years he’s spent in Congress that one of his first campaign ads was focused on how he’s “just a businessman.” The campaign ad was shot in a factory even though Johnson knows that he hasn’t been managing a factory for the last six years.

He’s an idiot. He’s just a quieter idiot. Maybe he’s learned to keep his pie hole shut because he seems to show everyone how stupid he is whenever he opens it.

That this ultra maroon ousted Feingold is an abomination.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:47:58pm

re: #22 MsJ

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I KNEW you all would come through.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:48:49pm

Now that the Egypt Air cockpit voice recorder has been recovered, news reports state that the aircrew fought to put out the fires in the avionics bay and lavatory. In other words, not terrorism.

Someone going to tell Donald Trump that, since he declared right away it was “radical Islamic terrorism?” (tm) Okay media, do your jobs. (who am I kidding, they need a horse race: Edward R Murrow is long dead.)

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:52:53pm

That video of police shooting Alton Sterling is just fucking awful.

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:57:31pm
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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:58:44pm

re: #30 Kragar

::gasp::

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:03:43pm

re: #30 Kragar

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Raised a lot of money, but was it all in $27 dollar increments? Because, as we know, that’s the only ethical means of raising campaign funds.

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majii  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:04:52pm

re: #29 Jenner7

“That video of police shooting Alton Sterling is just fucking awful.”

It certainly is awful, but I don’t see either of the officers being charged in his death. What the video shows me, along with many others I’ve viewed of cops killing our citizens for no reason, is that many of them are poorly trained. The accepted mindset seems to be instead of trying to arrest a citizen without killing him/her, shoot first, claim you feared for your life, and the police union and department officials will make sure any attempt to charge you with breaking the law goes away. Iirc, it took two Swedish officers visiting NYC to show American cops how to detain an alleged suspect without using a service weapon. This is how I know many of our LEOs are poorly trained. I would think that a cop shooting a citizen [except when his/her life was in imminent danger] would be an automatic dismissal from the department, but it’s not. Nowadays, it’s sometimes a chance to get rich via gofundme or promoted to a higher rank, and this is a d*mn disgrce. I have a soft-heart for many of our LEOs because they do a very important job, but some of them have no business working in law enforcement.

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plansbandc  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:09:40pm

It’s tragic how well Fox’s propaganda has worked. Every R friend I have thinks every lie Fox has spewed about Hillary is the gospel truth.

No argument, no engagement, no reason. Just mocking the libtards.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:10:13pm

re: #30 Kragar

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July 30 is I think his next formal reveal.

shitshow.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:12:06pm

re: #33 majii

“That video of police shooting Alton Sterling is just fucking awful.”

It certainly is awful, but I don’t see either of the officers being charged in his death. What the video shows me, along with many others I’ve viewed of cops killing our citizens for no reason, is that many of them are poorly trained. The accepted mindset seems to be instead of trying to arrest a citizen without killing him/her, shoot first, claim you feared for your life, and the police union and department officials will make sure any attempt to charge you with breaking the law goes away. Iirc, it took two Swedish officers visiting NYC to show American cops how to detain an alleged suspect without using a service weapon. This is how I know many of our LEOs are poorly trained. I would think that a cop shooting a citizen [except when his/her life was in imminent danger] would be an automatic dismissal from the department, but it’s not. Nowadays, it’s sometimes a chance to get rich via gofundme or promoted to a higher rank, and this is a d*mn disgrce. I have a soft-heart for many of our LEOs because they do a very important job, but some of them have no business working in law enforcement.

And, it’s open carry in LA.

‘cept for a black man selling CD’s.

dog, I’m so sick.

Between trump & death of innocents by authority……

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:14:42pm
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:17:01pm

To what jaunte posted in last thread.

Saddam Hussein’s Very Public Purge

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:17:20pm

Trump’s friend and fellow draft-dodger, faux redneck Phil Robertson, is back in the news with some opinion about history:
‘Duck Dynasty’ star Phil Robertson offers his best proof of the existence of Jesus

At the Western Conservative Summit, an annual gathering of the country’s right-wing voices, the reality star did his best to offer a completely logical proof of the existence of Jesus.

“If your calendar is dated of all the human beings who have ever walked on the Earth, and your calendar is dedicated and predicated to just one of ‘em, evidently something rather large went down,” he told the Colorado crowd.

Our calendar is also tied to Roman gods like Janus and Mars, but the 70-year-old didn’t seem too interested in that fact.

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whitebeach  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:21:10pm

re: #29 Jenner7

That video of police shooting Alton Sterling is just fucking awful.

Baton Rouge cops are, in my experience, several steps above, say, Shreveport cops, and several flights of stairs above New Orleans cops, but they are still crappy Louisiana cops. One example from fifteen or so years ago: Black guy, ordinary working fellow, driving through from Houston on his way to Alabama or somewhere. Houston to Baton Rouge is a long drive and he needed to take a leak. It was around midnight and he pulled around behind a closed convenience store and walked behind a dumpster to do his thing. Two cops pulled up and shot him dead. They claimed he was resisting arrest. What were they supposedly arresting him for, there behind a dumpster in the middle of the night with not another soul around? Public urination. Probably he was tired and said something, you know, a little “uppity.” Neither cop was charged with anything.

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Shimshon  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:21:29pm

re: #17 Anymouse

Urbana, Ill. police arrest a man for burning the flag on Independence Day:

huffingtonpost.com

They allegedly arrested him “for his safety” after he allegedly received death threats. He was charged under a 27-year-old flag burning ordinance long ago declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. (The police noted they had never arrested anyone under that ordinance.)

The prosecutor declined to issue charges, citing the Supreme Court.

Wingnuts in the comments section are going crazy, with variations of “veterans fought for that flag” &c &c &c.

Yeah, I’m a veteran. You know what I care about? Everyone’s speech rights, even when I don’t agree with the speech.

More conservative PC speech concerns.

The government arresting someone for speech is what the I Amendment is about, not private individuals opinions. Conservatives continue to have a problem with that.

Ignoring the reality that veterans haven’t fought a threat to America since WWII… veterans “fought for his right to burn the flag” because free speech is free speech. Unless those so-called veterans thought they were fighting for a right wing dictatorship (wouldn’t surprise me seeing the type of crazy that comes from the military these days. Tehran Tom Cotton, Torturer Alan West, etc)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:26:35pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel

Trump’s friend and fellow draft-dodger, faux redneck Phil Robertson, is back in the news with some opinion about history:
‘Duck Dynasty’ star Phil Robertson offers his best proof of the existence of Jesus

That argument makes no damned sense. The Gregorian calendar, which was adapted from the pagan Julian calendar, is based on the apparent motions of the Sun (as in Helios/Apollo/Sol Invictus). Among its tweaks of the Julian calendar was setting the year 1 as the presumed birth of Jesus (who was apparently born 4 years earlier)and calling it and all future years Anno Domini (AD). More important changes made sure that the equinoxes and solstices fell more or less on the same days every year.

Not everyone took to the new calendar right away , it being Catholic and all. England didn’t adopt it until the mid-1700s, and Russia took even longer.

Hardly a powerful argument for the existence of Jesus.

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Shimshon  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:28:24pm

re: #29 Jenner7

That video of police shooting Alton Sterling is just fucking awful.

if only all this crying about the rule of law from the right applied to police assaulting and killing civilians with no consequences. You can tell how little the conservatives and libertarians really care about the topics they hide behind, freedom, life, liberty, and others, when they throw them out if they are not politically expedient to the new outrage of the week.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:30:15pm

re: #41 Shimshon

Ignoring the reality that veterans haven’t fought a threat to America since WWII… veterans “fought for his right to burn the flag” because free speech is free speech. Unless those so-called veterans thought they were fighting for a right wing dictatorship (wouldn’t surprise me seeing the type of crazy that comes from the military these days. Tehran Tom Cotton, Torturer Alan West, etc)

The overwhelming majority of the military accepts the idea the military is subservient to the civilian government and civil laws governing it.

Alan West was ousted from the military. Cotton was in the military for four years. (I was in for more than four times his time in the Army.) Cotton spent half his time in the Army performing ceremonial duties.

As for other combat since WW2, it is generally accepted when we have a mutual defence treaty with another country we will fight in that country (S. Korea, Kuwait, &c). I suppose we could just ignore our treaties (that’s what Mr. Trump wants to do).

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:31:38pm

Some wingnut all-star on Twitter chimed in with one of my wholly benign tweets:

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:32:27pm

I would do anything for love.
But I won’t do that.

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Cheechako  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:32:37pm

Damn…preparing for tomorrow’s colonoscopy is…well…really shitty!

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:33:19pm

The Berniacs for Trump were really out yesterday. Unbelievable. Cassandra still raging.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:33:19pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:33:39pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel

Which is why the year starts on Jesus’s birthday.
/

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:38:45pm

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:40:11pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

Just checked. Nothing. But I can imagine the fuming.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:45:26pm

re: #52 Nyet

LOL, forgive. & keep me posted.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:46:53pm

re: #54 Stanley Sea

Will do ;)

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:48:53pm

An Open Letter to Jared Kushner From One of Your Jewish Employees

(Jared Kushner is Donald Trump’s son-in-law, who owns the New York Observer)

Dana Schwartz is an entertainment writer for the Observer. He is calling on Mr. Kushner to condemn Donald Trump’s anti-Semitic re-tweet from a white supremacist about Hillary Clinton.

I responded to the meme, calling out its blatant anti-Semitic imagery because people can play ignorant, blame the corrupt liberal media for trying to “get” Trump, but it takes only a basic knowledge of world history or an understanding of how symbols work to see a wall of cash, a Star of David, and the accusation of corruption and not see the subtext.

But deny or play dumb as you might, when I tweeted out my response, my worst fears were realized: his message, whether purposeful or inadvertent, was met with cheers by those to whom that star’s message was certainly clear. Mr. Trump’s tweet was seen as a winking promise to this nation’s worst and most hateful individuals.

Here are just a tiny sample size of the responses I received:

(it goes into a slideshow on the Website of some of the responses Mr. Schwartz received - they are vile, and of course Twitter will do nothing about it because they are libertarian douchecanoes)

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Shimshon  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:49:37pm

re: #44 Anymouse

The overwhelming majority of the military accepts the idea the military is subservient to the civilian government and civil laws governing it.

Alan West was ousted from the military. Cotton was in the military for four years. (I was in for more than four times his time in the Army.) Cotton spent half his time in the Army performing ceremonial duties.

As for other combat since WW2, it is generally accepted when we have a mutual defence treaty with another country we will fight in that country (S. Korea, Kuwait, &c). I suppose we could just ignore our treaties (that’s what Mr. Trump wants to do).

If there was true justice Alan West would be in jail. The Air Force was caught preaching evangelical Christianity to their new recruits especially at the Academy. There is a large percentage that believes in right wing ideology. The freedoms they claim to love are freedoms for right wing white Christian males.

Helping Korea or Vietnam with their local conflicts has nothing to do with “protecting America and our freedoms” since none of those countries had any desire to ever attack America.

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:50:46pm
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:51:05pm

A long letter from a very progressive Berniac contemplating voting for Trump. Yep, that’s what makes these sociopaths tick.

A Sanders Supporter Leans Toward Supporting Trump

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:54:14pm

Here in California, one person did get 5 numbers tonight:

calottery.com

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:55:50pm

Rosario Dawson is in full on cult fanatic mode.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:55:59pm

I’m so glad I saw Daredevil before I knew what a shithead Dawson is. Didn’t spoil the experience.

She’s also retweeting Trumpets now.

I hope they will phase her out during the next season.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:56:23pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Heh.

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:56:52pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:56:57pm

re: #59 Nyet

A long letter from a very progressive Berniac contemplating voting for Trump. Yep, that’s what makes these sociopaths tick.

A Sanders Supporter Leans Toward Supporting Trump

RON PAUL remnants.

Or just totally fucked in the head.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:57:34pm

re: #65 Stanley Sea

Paulites are hardly progressive.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:00:35pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Rosario Dawson is in full on cult fanatic mode.

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“They’re gonna indict Hillary any day now and then Bernie will be the nominee!”

FBI: “There will be no indictment.”

“THE WHOLE SYSTEM’S RIGGED!!!”

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:00:38pm

re: #57 Shimshon

If there was true justice Alan West would be in jail. The Air Force was caught preaching evangelical Christianity to their new recruits especially at the Academy. There is a large percentage that believes in right wing ideology. The freedoms they claim to love are freedoms for right wing white Christian males.

Helping Korea or Vietnam with their local conflicts has nothing to do with “protecting America and our freedoms” since none of those countries had any desire to ever attack America.

Vietnam is questionable, though we did have a mutual-defence treaty with them. South Korea invoked Article V of the UN treaty in defence of a member state, to which the UN (of which we are still a member) responded.

That still goes back to my question, do we ignore the treaties we signed?

Alan West was convicted at an Article 32 hearing, fined, and allowed to retire. He’d been charged with authorising a simulated execution of an Iraqi prisoner.

His conviction was in line with the UCMJ. One solution would be to fix the UCMJ.

I would note the overwhelming majority of military veterans in Congress are Democrats.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:06:09pm

re: #59 Nyet

I like how most of’em say (direct quote):

At least it could shake things up and make both parties have to change the way they do business.

Because that’s the point of holding elections. To shake things up and fix political parties.

Dr. Evil - Riiiight [HD]

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:08:14pm

Your freaky for the day:

Japan’s Adult VR Festival Proves (Venue) Size Matters, Canceled Due to Overcrowding

[…]

Perhaps the festival’s magnum opus, however, was an inflatable doll that, somewhat alarmingly, was missing full arms, legs and, oh yes, a head. You can see footage of it from Naughty Gaming below, along with a number of other exhibits at the event. Is this the future of VR porn or something out of a really bad horror movie? We’ll let you decide.

VR Porn Demonstration - Adult VR Fest 01 Japan

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:10:04pm

“millennials” - check
“neoliberalism” - check

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:11:23pm

re: #38 Nyet

To what jaunte posted in last thread.

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You know, it wouldn’t surprise me if Donald Trump, as president, would perform a similar purge…

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:14:28pm

re: #46 Nyet

BTW, this is the guy who wrote this for Salon:

A liberal case for Donald Trump: The lesser of two evils is not at all clear in 2016

Better titled “A liberal nutcase for Donald Trump”.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:15:11pm

re: #71 Nyet

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“millennials” - check
“neoliberalism” - check

As a millenial, I love to know that my favorable opinion of socialism means I should be on the same wavelength as the goobers who think that means we’re all getting “free” healthcare and “free” college any day now.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:18:09pm

re: #71 Nyet

My son is a millenial. He is voting for Hillary Clinton in Florida, right where we need Hillary Clinton votes.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:19:03pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

As a millenial, I love to know that my favorable opinion of socialism means I should be on the same wavelength as the goobers who think that means we’re all getting “free” healthcare and “free” college any day now.

We’re *FREE* man!!!

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:19:05pm

re: #58 freetoken

Buy your tickets!

No Mega Millions winner Tuesday; jackpot increases to $508M

Reminds me of a joke:
A Texas fundamentalist finds himself in dire financial straits. He has heard that people win millions of dollars playing the lottery. He knows the odds are very bad, but decides that he can win with the aid of the Almighty. He has also heard some prosperity gospel and knows that he must share the loot with the Lord if he is to have any chance of winning.

He prays, “Heavenly Father, if You allow me to win the lottery, I promise that I will finally begin paying tithes and will contribute 10% of my winnings to Your work.”
The lottery comes and goes and our friend does not win.

He decides that more is required of him. He prays again, “Heavenly Father, if You allow me to win the lottery, I promise that I will go beyond the tithes and will contribute 25% of my winnings to Your work.” Again, the lottery comes and goes and he does not win.

His creditors are closing in by now and he is getting desperate. He raises his offer to 50% in his next prayer. Again, he is disappointed.

In anguish, he runs to the top of a nearby hill, tearing his hair and screaming. “Lord! Lord! What must I do? WHAT MUST I DO?

At that point, a mighty voice speaks from the heavens: “First, my son, you must buy a ticket………”

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:19:11pm

I do know that these words mean things, but when I see a usual agglomeration of “oligarchy”, “neoliberalism”, “interventionism”, “globalism” and other buzzwords, I’m reminded of the Soviet newspapers’ writing style.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:20:09pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:20:22pm

This is what I get for not checking whether there’s a new thread. I spent 10 minute crafting a post, and deposited it at the bottom of a dead thread.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:20:22pm

re: #77 Shiplord Kirel

Well, I will have to buy a MegaMillions ticket then. Since I will be in Canada for a couple weeks, when I win, the press will be scouring the landscape for the Cinderella winner from my tiny village. /s

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:21:40pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

This is what I get for not checking whether there’s a new thread. I spent 10 minute crafting a post, and deposited it at the bottom of a dead thread.

It will be found in a million years, prepared like we do the trilobites and put into the Museum of Unnatural History.

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:21:49pm

re: #78 Nyet

I do know that these words mean things, but when I see a usual agglomeration of “oligarchy”, “neoliberalism”, “interventionism”, “globalism” and other buzzwords, I’m reminded of the Soviet newspapers’ writing style.

Yeah, the buzzword density is very familiar to Soviet era propaganda…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:25:05pm

Okay, I’ll re-craft my windy post for this thread…

If you ever wonder why we’re not more widely loved and respected, think about the mindset embodied in the posts discussing keeping Saddam in power as a balance against Iran. I’m not blaming anyone, because it’s something I’ve said myself, and I certainly understand it, and I’m not even sure what I’d suggest we do differently.

But think about it - we, meaning the US and the UK and other Western Powers, set up this chess board. We drew the borders, we put different people in power over millions and millions of people because it served OUR interest.

We put the Shah in place in Iran, and maintained him in power over the increasing objections of his people and supported him in brutal repression, or at least turned a blind eye to it, because it served our interest.

Then when the people finally rose up, we were shocked to find they didn’t like us.

So what did we do? We supported Saddam in his war against Iran, again turning a blind eye to gas attacks on the Iranians, because it served our interest.

Then he overstepped by invading Kuwait. Oops.

We painted him as the Next Hitler, gathered a coalition, and kicked his ass back out of Kuwait, but then we stopped. We didn’t overthrow him or help any of the folks we’d urged to rebel to overthrow him either, because that wouldn’t have been in our interest.

So he killed a bunch of them, and we didn’t stop him, because it served our interest.

Then we got the idea we could overthrow him and a Western-style pluralistic democracy would take root there, and that would be in our interest. So we invaded and kicked over the ant hill. And we let the Shiites dominate the government, angering the Sunnis, because it served our interest.

I know it’s a long lifetime too late, but maybe we shouldn’t be so eager to make decisions for tens of millions of people, because we think it’s in our interest?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:33:18pm

re: #83 Teukka

Yeah, the buzzword density is very familiar to Soviet era propaganda…

Just needs a couple ‘freedom-loving peoples’ and ‘capitalist imperialist running dogs and their craven lackeys’.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:34:55pm

@BEAYAHUS doesn’t exist anymore.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:35:22pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, all nations act in their own interest.

Installing the Shah: Republican administration.

Supporting Iraq against Iran: Republican administration.

Not invading Iraq during the Kuwait liberation? Republican administration. (To be fair, the United Nations supported the action under Article V of the UN Treaty - mutual defence of a member state, and President GHW Bush specifically outlined the goal was to eject Iraq from Kuwait, not conquer Iraq. His military buildup was also drawn out over months to show Saddam Hussein that he could not win; Hussein did not take the opportunity to withdraw.)

Invasion of Iraq: Republican administration. President GW Bush specifically argued he was not interested in “nation building,” (that is, ensuring what comes after a war can support itself, like we did with Germany and Japan), disbanded the Army and police (the organisations that could have maintained order), then signed a treaty demanding our withdrawal from Iraq.

Seeing a pattern here?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:36:20pm

re: #68 Anymouse

Vietnam is questionable, though we did have a mutual-defence treaty with them. South Korea invoked Article V of the UN treaty in defence of a member state, to which the UN (of which we are still a member) responded.

That still goes back to my question, do we ignore the treaties we signed?

An important footnote to that UN vote was that China was still represented by Chiang Kai Shek’s Nationalist government in Taiwan and the USSR boycotted the Security Council meeting in protest over a refusal to unseat and replace them with a mainland Communist Chinese delegation. That was I believe the last time any permanent member of the Security Council ever pulled such an obviously stupid stunt.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:37:03pm

re: #83 Teukka

Yeah, the buzzword density is very familiar to Soviet era propaganda…

Also anti-Semitic dogwhistle words: globalism, in particular.

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:37:46pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

Just needs a couple ‘freedom-loving peoples’ and ‘capitalist imperialist running dogs and their craven lackeys’.

Don’t forget the Bourgeoisie pigs…

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:38:07pm

re: #71 Nyet

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:38:47pm

re: #89 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Also anti-Semitic dogwhistle words: globalism, in particular.

Anti-semitism in the right-wing has always been just below the surface…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:42:10pm

re: #92 Teukka

Anti-semitism in the right-wing has always been just below the surface…

Trump has managed to bring it above the surface.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:42:13pm

re: #91 Kragar

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The millenials are big on socialism…but they’re also big on non-conformity, which is why they couldn’t be bothered to register with the party whose nomination their candidate was running for or bothered to actually vote. They seemed to think that rallies and tweets were the items by which parties decide their nominees.

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:42:49pm

re: #93 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trump has managed to bring it above the surface.

Aye.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:44:57pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:53:16pm

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

That incident is what I always point out to morons who think the US should get out of the UN. The veto power that comes with a permanent seat on the Security Council is virtually priceless. On a sheer power basis it is probably the most effective weapon system in our strategic geopolitical toolkit, in part because unlike nuclear bombs we can actually use the shit out of it.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:53:52pm

Why Hillary Clinton will Not Rot In Jail for Aggravated Emailing - Wonkette

With their usual snark and NSFW comments that aren’t allowed there.

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Targetpractice  Jul 5, 2016 • 11:57:00pm

It’s impossible to tell the wingnuts apart from the dudebros at this point, especially where the email business is involved. I think that’s because both sides understood that an indictment was their only way to win. That without an indictment Hillary will be president and there’s nothing they can do to stop her.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:03:26am

re: #99 Targetpractice

It’s impossible to tell the wingnuts apart from the dudebros at this point, especially where the email business is involved. I think that’s because both sides understood that an indictment was their only way to win. That without an indictment Hillary will be president and there’s nothing they can do to stop her.

Well, a minority of Sanders supporters are the ones who will not vote for Mrs. Clinton; the overwhelming majority of Sanders supporters will.

On the wingnut side, they all were banking on that E-mail thing, because they all are victims of their own propaganda.

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teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:03:40am

re: #99 Targetpractice

HAGOODMAN:

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Kragar  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:08:02am

Dead man walking.

A guy that big, trying to operate in tactical gear, on field rations? How much intense cardio does he do?

He’s a goner.

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teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:12:38am

re: #47 Cheechako

Damn…preparing for tomorrow’s colonoscopy is…well…really shitty!

It’s not shitty. It’s watery and runny.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:17:44am

re: #103 teleskiguy

It’s not shitty. It’s watery and runny.

TMI.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:18:26am

re: #100 Anymouse

Well, a minority of Sanders supporters are the ones who will not vote for Mrs. Clinton; the overwhelming majority of Sanders supporters will.

On the wingnut side, they all were banking on that E-mail thing, because they all are victims of their own propaganda.

And that’s what I’ve tried to tell the Bros for months, that they’re not half the party that’s going to walk if Bernie isn’t nominated. But no, they’ve assured me for months that the party will split over Bernie and the “progressives” go off to form their own party, with blackjack and hookers.

And the wingnuts have pretty much been invested in an indictment for over a year, absolutely convinced that after decades of trial and error, this time they had Hillary right where they wanted her. But to prepare for the inevitable failure to indict, they started spreading the script that Lynch had let Hillary “get away with murder” while assuring themselves that Comey would deliver the recommendation they wanted.

So the schadenfreude is doubled and I’m loving every minute of it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:19:07am

i have a notion that, whereas i think we’re all waiting for this craziness to be resolves by an election, it maybe that after the election will be when things really get crazy

consider all the phases that the french revolution went through

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teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:22:55am

re: #104 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

TMI.

No such thing at LGF, within reason. I guess that means there is a parameter - just enough and *too much.*

Where’s the line?!?

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TK-421  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:23:09am

RWNJ logic: “Don’t you dare burn that flag you dirty commie, love it or leave it!!”

“Take up arms patriots, and overthrow the american dictator!!”

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:25:39am

re: #105 Targetpractice

I haven’t run into any Bernie Bros, because I don’t hang out on social media sites besides this one, Daily Kos, and Wonkette. (Well, a few others not related to politics, but not Facebook and Twitter.)

For those apparently loud Bros on Twitter and Facebook, they are a distinct minority of Sanders’s supporters. Moreover, Senator Sanders himself said he would vote for Secretary Clinton.

This seems to me much like the PUMA arguments from 2008 against President Obama from Mrs. Clinton’s over-exuberant (auto-correct wants to put in “over-the-counter” but I foiled it) supporters then.

It would seem to me the case to make against them would be to ignore them unless they go off on some egregious untruthful rant (then slap it down with facts). The majority will get over it; those who don’t likely would not have voted for Hillary Clinton or any Democrat in the first place. (Saying this as a former Sanders supporter now “in the tank” for Hillary Clinton because I got my Sorosbux and ten Obamaphones from my neoliberal masters.)

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:27:05am

re: #102 Kragar

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:27:26am

Of course, another gut punch to the wingnuts is that Comey didn say (and the official report likely doesn’t say) that there’s any evidence that Hillary deleted official emails from her server pertaining to Benghazi. That was their last, big hope for the smoking gun, that she’d deleted emails that would show she was laughing with dark glee as Stevens died. Or had responded to a security request by telling him to go piss up a rope. You can tell Trey was absolutely aghast last week that all that effort spent getting ahold of the server and yet nothing on it that would finally vindicate the GOP’s obsession with this nontroversy.

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:27:49am

re: #92 Teukka

Anti-semitism in the right-wing has always been just below the surface…

Yeah, but I was talking about the left-wing jargon…

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:29:18am

re: #96 teleskiguy

Well, literally. Put him there and leave him there. Because the wave of hate Trump has helped to stoke goes beyond political games.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:29:36am

I find it hard to believe any of the BoBs who threatened to vote for Trump could possibly still support him after Trump’s endorsement of Saddam Hussein. Any that still do are just ratfuckers.

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:32:27am

re: #114 Single-handed sailor

I find it hard to believe any of the BoBs who threatened to vote for Trump could possibly still support him after Trump’s endorsement of Saddam Hussein. Any that still do are just ratfuckers.

Ratfuckers are saboteurs from another party. These guys are not ratfuckers. They’re true blue red progressives.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:34:12am

re: #114 Single-handed sailor

I find it hard to believe any of the BoBs who threatened to vote for Trump could possibly still support him after Trump’s endorsement of Saddam Hussein. Any that still do are just ratfuckers.

Well there has been some anecdotal evidence of rodent copulation disguised as Sanders supporters for some time. It wouldn’t be hard to do and pretty much costs nothing on Facebook and Twitter. (Note the number of trolling or offensive tweets that get posted here from so-called “eggs.” Wonkette deals on a regular basis with Disqus accounts that are created the same day as trolling comments appear, then when the troll gets humiliated by them the account disappears.)

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:35:28am

Case in point, a prominent progressive activist Cassandra Fairbanks:

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:41:56am

re: #117 Nyet

Case in point, a prominent progressive activist Cassandra Fairbanks

Never heard of her.

Here is some interesting derp on her:
illuminati.wikia.com

Not really concerned what she thinks.

Cassandra Fairbanks, who goes by the Twitter handle of @CassandraRules, is an Occultist and CIA informant who is outwardly a human rights activist. Her sole purpose is to inflame race bases by pandering to those opposed to police and create division that is concurrent with Illuminati ‘Divide on Conquer’ agenda.

Fairbanks will only retweet or promote sentiments that echo police brutality and violence, inflaming protesters to riot. Her attractiveness and sexuality are used to gain the largest number of followers possible. She is also a part of the Operation Ferguson CIA movement.

(continues at the Illuminati Wiki)

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:43:28am

re: #118 Anymouse

Never heard of her.

You also said you’ve never heard of Elie Wiesel, so it’s neither here, nor there…

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:44:20am

re: #117 Nyet

Case in point, a prominent progressive activist Cassandra Fairbanks:

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Since I spend almost no time on twitter or following these things, why is this person a “prominent progressive”?

Naively checking her twitter stream I see her retweeting Fox links, Scott Walker tweets, etc. It strikes me as odd that someone who is a “prominent progressive” would really be into that.

Human behavior can be quite odd. The thrill of conflict (in this case, electronic tagging in the twitter-verse), the need for attention, etc., can override some facile political positioning.

Motivations are very hard to understand in many cases. The person you link may just be in this to have her name on twitter passed around, or to get a picture passed around. Never underestimate the power of vanity, a conclusion I’ve settled on in dealing with people.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:45:15am

There’s nothing “progressive” in being willing to support the most regressive candidate in ages because he said some things you agree with about NAFTA or TPP. If you think that Trump is a valid alternative to Bernie, then you’re out of your fucking gourd.

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:45:51am

Just like with most progressives voting for Trump, Cassandra’s reason #1 is foreign policy. She spells out the non-interventionist aka “I don’t care who gets murdered, none of my business” ideology very clearly.

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:47:18am

re: #120 freetoken

Naively checking her twitter stream I see her retweeting Fox links, Scott Walker tweets, etc. It strikes me as odd that someone who is a “prominent progressive” would really be into that.

Well, she’s been like that since yesterday. You’ve missed the whole show.

But those paying attention to blacklivesmatter movement know her.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:47:35am

re: #119 Nyet

You also said you’ve never heard of Elie Wiesel, so it’s neither here, nor there…

That’s true. I did say that, and it is my shame I had not heard of Mr. Wiesel. I have now placed his book “Night” on order through the village library on interlibrary loan so I can get to know him better than what I have read.

Seven billion people on the planet, I can’t know everyone, even the important ones like Mr. Wiesel. I don’t want to know Ms. Fairbanks.

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:49:20am

re: #124 Anymouse

It is understandable that you don’t want to know her, but since you’ve been appealing to your personal experiences re: Bernie supporters, you should also understand that there are different progressives with different motivations outside of your bubble.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:49:41am

re: #122 Nyet

Just like with most progressives voting for Trump, Cassandra’s reason #1 is foreign policy. She spells out the non-interventionist aka “I don’t care who gets murdered, none of my business” ideology very clearly.

If that was her real concern, she could get the non-interventionist policy by voting for Governor Gary Johnson, not the fascist talking yam, or the racist Russian oligarch lover Dr. Jill Stein.

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:51:41am

re: #126 Anymouse

If that was her real concern, she could get the non-interventionist policy by voting for Governor Gary Johnson, not the fascist talking yam, or the racist Russian oligarch lover Dr. Jill Stein.

She wants to defeat Hillary. Voting for Stein or Johnson only does half of the job, if that’s the actual goal.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:52:28am

re: #125 Nyet

It is understandable that you don’t want to know her, but since you’ve been appealing to your personal experiences re: Bernie supporters, you should also understand that there are different progressives with different motivations outside of your bubble.

My bubble is my little town, where everyone is a Republican except for me.

The very few Democrats here (my county went for Mr. Sanders in the state caucus) are all in for Hillary Clinton.

I have very little ability to project my opinions, and not much in the way of education to support them beyond my immediate surroundings. Folk like Mr. Johnson here at LGF, Jim Wright at Stonekettle Station, and others are much better positioned and educated to do that. (I can support those efforts though.)

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:52:43am

re: #123 Nyet

On June 26th she retweeted:

This twitter-er really strikes me like so many that are addicted to social media - this is a vanity project for them to get as much attention as possible, with no real added substance.

All those untamed youth on snapchat posting images of their genitalia are probably making better use of the electrons that make up the internet.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:54:00am

re: #127 Nyet

She wants to defeat Hillary. Voting for Stein or Johnson only does half of the job, if that’s the actual goal.

Then her issue is more than non-interventionalism. In other words, her YouTube video is a fraud, as she seems to be with all the right-wing talking points on her Twitter channel.

I can’t say if she is a rodent copulator, but she seems to be hitting the right talking points.

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:54:17am

re: #129 freetoken

On June 26th she retweeted:

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This twitter-er really strikes me like so many that are addicted to social media - this is a vanity project for them to get as much attention as possible, with no real added substance.

All those untamed youth on snapchat posting images of their genitalia are probably making better use of the electrons that make up the internet.

You should check her past journalism history. It’s not hard. She’s not confined to twitter.

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:57:22am

re: #130 Anymouse

Then her issue is more than non-interventionalism. In other words, her YouTube video is a fraud, as she seems to be with all the right-wing talking points on her Twitter channel.

Logic fail. She hates Clinton because of her alleged hawkishness and sees Trump as a lesser evil.

I can’t say if she is a rodent copulator

If you can’t even come to a conclusion about a real life person with verifiable history of progressive activism in favor of your baseless CT about “rodent copulators”, then there’s not much to be said. Denial is not the river in Egypt.

Anyhoo, I got to do something else now.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 12:58:08am

GotNwes bulletin:

LOL! GotNewsDotCom exposes 1997 Clinton ‘cover-up’ of pet cat’s sex

Washington insiders are reeling in shock and dismay today, after Award Winning JournalistTM Chuck C. Johnson blew the doors off another Clinton scandal — an effort to conceal the gender identity of their pet cat, Socks.

Quoting a clearly ironic news report from 1997, the clueless Johnson mocked the Clintons’ supposed attempt to classify Socks’ gender as he tried to draw a parallel to Hillary Clinton’s email escapades.

More at GotNwes

His “proof”: a clearly ironic news report from 1997 from the Modesto Bee containing this paragraph.

The moratorium on the release of information about the president’s daughter was so extensive that a question about whether Chelsea’s cat, Socks, was male or female, was rejected by Hillary Clinton’s press office as involving personal and therefore classified information.

Socks was a celebrity back then, and his gender was well known. The paragraph quoted was obviously meant as a joke, which Chuck didn’t get.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:01:00am

Since it’s topical, here’s one of my favorite quotes:

“We must not see any person as an abstraction.
Instead, we must see in every person a universe with its own secrets,
with its own treasures, with its own sources of anguish,
and with some measure of triumph.”

- Elie Wiesel from The Nazi Doctors and the Nuremberg Code

I think it bears relevance here, in that trying to police an abstract term like progressive and who does or doesn’t conform to our definitions thereof isn’t actually all that useful or instructive. The truth is that every person is a universe unto themselves, and will often hold many opinions regardless of how internally inconsistent those positions may seem under another person’s external examination.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:06:31am

re: #132 Nyet

Logic fail. She hates Clinton because of her alleged hawkishness and sees Trump as a lesser evil.

If you can’t even come to a conclusion about a real life person with verifiable history of progressive activism in favor of your baseless CT about “rodent copulators”, then there’s not much to be said. Denial is not the river in Egypt.

Anyhoo, I got to do something else now.

I never had a reason to look into her, so no logic fail. I never heard of her.

Well, we can toss out the speculation if you like. I don’t accept the supposed logical fallacy of “no true progressive” that was thrown out at me after I called out another such person.

Any person who thinks that Donald Trump is somehow less of a “warmonger” than Hillary Clinton after all he has said is either a) not a progressive b) deluded c) a rodent copulator.

Looking at her Twitter feed, she ain’t one. Had my wife the Libertarian look at it. She agrees. (I presume a Libertarian can spot a progressive from five miles away.)

It is fair of me to say the King of Saudi Arabia is “no true Christian” and based on what I have found about this woman it is equally fair to say she is no progressive.

Non-interventionalism is not a progressive trait, it is an isolationist trait (usually associated with conservatives).

As for her real life history and verifiable information, it is the person who makes the assertion that has to provide the evidence. Telling me the equivalent of “Google it” is not evidence.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:11:40am

re: #12 Stanley Sea

have fun

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Just call yourselves Republican because your foolishness will lead to a Trump presidency.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:13:28am

re: #131 Nyet

You should check her past journalism history. It’s not hard. She’s not confined to twitter.

Surprisingly little comes up when googling “Linda Bumpass” - only 956 results, and many of them may not be for the person about which you write.

Her Facebook page is very sparse, at least the publicly viewable portion.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:18:03am

Cassandra Fairbanks: Not notable enough for Wikipedia.

Nearly sixty-nine thousand tweets, as Twitter is a famous news outlet she joined only in late 2012.

No discernible history other than writing for the Free Thought Project, and leading an anti-bullying campaign for a particular man harassed on 4Chan.

This does not qualify in my mind as “prominent progressive activist,” but your mileage may vary. Perhaps in my “bubble” it is not possible for all the nation’s prominent progressive activists to fit in.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:25:37am

re: #135 Anymouse

Well, we can toss out the speculation if you like. I don’t accept the supposed logical fallacy of “no true progressive” that was thrown out at me after I called out another such person.

Any person who thinks that Donald Trump is somehow less of a “warmonger” than Hillary Clinton after all he has said is either a) not a progressive b) deluded c) a rodent copulator.

Only the bolded part (b) is solidly arguable given the known facts. I’m sorry but literally none of the rest is falsifiable. In other words it’s not even wrong. In most cases unless you have a solid trail of statements exactly opposite to their current espoused positions, or have evolved telepathy and can read their thoughts, you will never establish another person’s actual mindset. You can always suspect but you won’t know.

Delusion on the other hand you can argue logically given each candidates’ statements and records, Trump’s positions on torture, plundering oil, etc.

Looking at her Twitter feed, she ain’t one. Had my wife the Libertarian look at it. She agrees. (I presume a Libertarian can spot a progressive from five miles away.)

I have no idea why you would presume such a thing. People like Fairbanks, Sarandon, etc have long established records of liberal progressive activism. It’s just that they’re also prone to motivated reasoning, and since their motivation is to hate Hillary Clinton with every fiber of their being their reasoning correspondingly bends to accommodate and legitimize that hate. They hate her so much that it affects their perceptive filters, which results in them dismissing or ignoring the things Trump has said in order to maintain the belief that Clinton is worse, because for them it’s basically a matter of religious dogma that nothing could possibly be worse than her.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:29:06am

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

Only the bolded part (b) is solidly arguable given the known facts. I’m sorry but literally none of the rest is falsifiable. In other words it’s not even wrong. In most cases unless you have a solid trail of statements exactly opposite to their current espoused positions, or have evolved telepathy and can read their thoughts, you will never establish their actual mindset. You can always suspect but you won’t know.

Delusion on the other hand you can argue logically given each candidates’ statements and records, Trump’s positions on torture, plundering oil, etc.

I have no idea why you would presume such a thing. People like Fairbanks, Sarandon, etc have long established records of liberal progressive activism. It’s just that they’re also prone to motivated reasoning, and since their motivation is to hate Hillary Clinton with every fiber of their being so their reasoning correspondingly bends to accommodate and legitimize that hate. They hate her so much that it affects their perceptive filters, which results in them dismissing or ignoring the things Trump has said in order to maintain the belief that Clinton is worse, because for them it’s basically a matter of religious dogma that nothing could possibly be worse than her.

Again, I never heard of Ms. Fairbanks before today. That is anecdotal of course, as I noted every progressive won’t fit in my “bubble.” Susan Sarandon does have a long history of arguing for progressive causes, unlike anything I found for Ms. Fairbanks. The best I can find is her Twitter channel, and there ain’t much in the way of progressive activism there.

I did ask for examples (sort of, by pointing out telling me to “Google it” is not evidence). Are there examples of progressive activism you can point me to that this woman half my age has made her mark in the world so famously I should know her, or it merely an assertion she is a “progressive activist?”

I would also argue that throwing aside reason (in this case, accepting thirty years of conservaderp against Mrs. Clinton as true) is not the mark of a progressive. If she goes long enough, Ms. Fairbanks might be as bold as to deny climate change and evolution as a true progressive would.

As for falsifiability, you are right, the claim of potential rodent copulation is non-falsifiable. It is one of those things that can only be proved if there is overwhelming evidence or the person admits it. I assert she appears to be doing it. I have no evidence other than her posts on Twitter. (For example, when Ted Cruz’s camp claimed Ben Carson had dropped out of the race in Iowa, or his billboard in Utah slut-shaming Donald Trump’s wife, resulting in Donald Trump’s meme comparing his wife to Heidi Cruz.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:45:30am

re: #17 Anymouse

More conservative PC speech concerns.

The government arresting someone for speech is what the I Amendment is about, not private individuals opinions. Conservatives continue to have a problem with that.

Remember how we used to arrest people for blasphemy?

What has happened to religious freedom in this country when we can no longer chastise blasphemers???

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:46:53am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember how we used to arrest people for blasphemy?

What has happened to religious freedom in this country when we can no longer chastise blasphemers???

Given the opportunity (Kevin Swanson, for example), I am sure if they got power I would have a first-hand experience with that, on the receiving end.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:50:29am
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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 1:51:20am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 2:16:07am

This is so beyond sad at this point.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 2:28:25am

re: #28 Anymouse

Now that the Egypt Air cockpit voice recorder has been recovered, news reports state that the aircrew fought to put out the fires in the avionics bay and lavatory. In other words, not terrorism.

Someone going to tell Donald Trump that, since he declared right away it was “radical Islamic terrorism?” (tm) Okay media, do your jobs. (who am I kidding, they need a horse race: Edward R Murrow is long dead.)

He knew that it was a win-win for him, even if it came out later that it was not terrorism, it would not hurt him, since he knows that his supporters (and a great deal of the rest of the viewing public) are so media ADD that they do not notice anything outside the 24 hour news cycle.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 2:34:16am

re: #89 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Also anti-Semitic dogwhistle words: globalism, in particular.

They need to work in “cosmopolitan”.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 2:37:49am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They need to work in “cosmopolitan”.

I don’t care to see Mr. Sanders in that magazine’s centrefold.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 2:53:11am

China isn’t in the TPP. This is just an example of the problem within our political dialog, so much of it is fundamentally rooted in ignorance.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 2:59:43am

It would appear that on the Disqus threads over at Deadbart, the realisation is finally sinking in that Hillary Clinton is going to be the president, and the butthurt level has broken out of the top of the scale.

They were really counting on the nonsense the right wing was spreading about the FBI enquiry about Mrs. Clinton’s server.

(Again tonight at my village board meeting before it started I poked my Republican county attorney and the other board members, asking if they were going to investigate my own private E-mail server since I use it for official village, county, and state business.)

The realisation over at Breitbart is they now know their presumptive nominee has to debate Hillary Clinton on television live, with no Twitter, no call-in TV interviews, &c, and he is toast.

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:01:53am

re: #112 Nyet

Yeah, but I was talking about the left-wing jargon…

It has it share of anti-semitism too, sadly :(

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:02:59am

re: #150 Anymouse

It would appear that on the Disqus threads over at Deadbart, the realisation is finally sinking in that Hillary Clinton is going to be the president, and the butthurt level has broken out of the top of the scale.

They were really counting on the nonsense the right wing was spreading about the FBI enquiry about Mrs. Clinton’s server.

(Again tonight at my village board meeting before it started I poked my Republican county attorney and the other board members, asking if they were going to investigate my own private E-mail server since I use it for official village, county, and state business.)

It was their last hope of making their own steaming turd appear less unappealing

now the only horserace left is to show HRC with an enormous lead, and making a big news item out of whenever Trump creeps up by a few tenths of a percentage point…

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:03:56am

It would seem the GOP would have better luck going all Birther on Hillary Clinton’s birth certificate; it would seem the name “Clinton” appears nowhere on the form. They might have luck convincing some of the more dim amongst their party that is an issue that needs $7M worth of House and Senate investigations. /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:05:44am

re: #151 Teukka

It has it share of anti-semitism too, sadly :(

Funny, one can be anti-Israel without being anti-Semitic, and some people love to root for a perceived underdog (Palestinians) against an “oppressor state”, which they see in Israel.

on the other hand, we have people who believe Jews are all going to hell but love Israel because they need it to fulfill their Biblical End Times prophecies

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Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:07:10am

I go to sleep early last night and I wake up and wonder what Trump and his supporter have been smoking.

Anyone remember the good ol’ days when Saddam Hussein was allegedly running terrorist training camps in Iraq? Good times, good times. I guess I shouldn’t expect the lamestream media to actually point that out to Trump’s mouth breathing supporters.

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

So what did we do? We supported Saddam in his war against Iran, again turning a blind eye to gas attacks on the Iranians, because it served our interest.

It’s worse than that: We didn’t just turn a blind eye. We used satellite imagery to tell them when and where to deploy the gas for maximum effectiveness.

And the worst part?

When Saddam used the poison gas, which we had given him, to commit an act of genocide against Kurds in Halabja, despite knowing that he was responsible the day of the attack, the United States launched a disinformation campaign trying to pin the blame on Iran. The Reagan administration also pressured our allies not to adopt any sanctions against Iraq either.

All told, the United States aided and abetted genocide, and like most of the crimes during the Reagan administration, no one was punished for it.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:09:16am

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

I oppose The TPP (trans pacific partnership). It would allow foreign nations such as China to oppose and ignore our laws.

Uh, what? China has to follow our laws now?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:12:34am

re: #156 Timothy Watson

Uh, what? China has to follow our laws now?

TPP allows nations who trade with us to ignore our laws, something they would generally have to do in order to operate on US territory or the US market.

The idea of normalizing and formalizing international trade, patent and intellectual property protection regulations is a sound one, but TPP is highly tweaked in favor of the producers and not the consumers.

And even Adam Smith could tell us that is not how the Free market is supposed to function.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:17:02am

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

LOL, what race? He lost, it’s over.

Crap, for some reason that line made me think of this old rap song:

Kurupt- It’s Over

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Alephnaught  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:21:05am

The Chilcott report into the Iraq war is being rolled out now. Live coverage here.

theguardian.com

So far it’s “No shit, Sherlock”, but it is significant to have an official government report say it.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:22:36am

re: #150 Anymouse

It would appear that on the Disqus threads over at Deadbart, the realisation is finally sinking in that Hillary Clinton is going to be the president, and the butthurt level has broken out of the top of the scale.

They were really counting on the nonsense the right wing was spreading about the FBI enquiry about Mrs. Clinton’s server.

(Again tonight at my village board meeting before it started I poked my Republican county attorney and the other board members, asking if they were going to investigate my own private E-mail server since I use it for official village, county, and state business.)

The realisation over at Breitbart is they now know their presumptive nominee has to debate Hillary Clinton on television live, with no Twitter, no call-in TV interviews, &c, and he is toast.

Meanwhile, over at RedState, the war between their hatred of Hillary and their hatred of Trump has led them to suggesting that he would have done the same to hide his own emails. It’s one of those times that you just have to throw back your head and laugh.

Yesterday will be the day that this election was lost for the GOP. They needed an indictment so badly that they have no way to respond to the lack of one but seething anger. Dragging Comey before the House to lay out why their lies do not translate into indictments is not going to help them in any way. They’d need all of the next four months to even begin to make up the ground they lost yesterday, and they’re not going to get all that with a loose cannon going off every other hour.

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:27:10am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Funny, one can be anti-Israel without being anti-Semitic, and some people love to root for a perceived underdog (Palestinians) against an “oppressor state”, which they see in Israel.

on the other hand, we have people who believe Jews are all going to hell but love Israel because they need it to fulfill their Biblical End Times prophecies

And it gets even more complex when one really looks into the issue and don’t just take the talking heads words for granted. Like, on one hand the current Israeli handling of the Palestinians is oppressive, yes. However, if one looks at international law, the response is around the upper end of what is allowable under international law in response (sometimes at the line, sometimes over it) to actions taken by the Palestinians (which, despite some here not liking to hear it, is in violation of the laws of war).

Both sides could take better measures, for example the Israelis have a margin to tone down their responses to Palestinian actions, and the Palestinians could do more in terms of attacking legitimate targets and in the cases where the actions are unsanctioned, unmistakably distance themselves from them. Of course, the best solution would be if both sides would get a freaking grip. I have this semi-kidding joke about the Israeli-Palestinian situation which goes as such (and yes, it’s harsh):

*places call to nuclear powers*
*gathers Palestinian and Israeli negotiation teams*
*get them into a room*
“Okay guys, here’s the deal: You have a significant portion of the worlds nuclear arsenals targeted at you. You have 72 hours to come up with a viable peace. kthxbai.”
*slams door, locks it*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:31:30am

re: #161 Teukka

And it gets even more complex when one really looks into the issue and don’t just take the talking heads words for granted. Like, on one hand the current Israeli handling of the Palestinians is oppressive, yes.

And Israeli hard-liners know that they can count on unquestioning US support so it makes them even harder. And Palestinian extremists know they can count on widespread international sympathy for their people…so we are contributing to making things worse.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:34:53am

re: #160 Targetpractice

I suspect they are going to drag that well into the next presidency.

In the meantime, it appears that in their quest to marginalise the LGBT community, they are busy attaching anti-LGBT provisions to every bill that needs to pass, as well as the Orwellian-named First Amendment Defense Act.

huffingtonpost.com

They are trying to ban transgender people from using the bathrooms matching their identity in Federal buildings, trying to overturn liberal states’ laws regarding equal treatment under the law for the LGBT, trying to overturn President Obama’s executive order on Federal contractors.

Why are conservatives so concerned about other people’s private parts? It’s gotten to the point I think they are perverts. As the intrepid owner of this site used to be a conservative, perhaps Mr. Johnson can give me some insight to this issue with conservatism I never understood except as perversion.

The bill would also affect single mothers or anybody in a sexual relationship outside of wedlock. For example, a school that receives federal dollars could fire a teacher if he or she is suspected of having premarital sex.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:36:37am

re: #159 Alephnaught

He just finished.

Damning… but I don’t know how or if much of it will filter into American news cycle, unless Drumpfskind brings it to the table.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:39:55am
Chilcot says without evidence of major new Iraqi violations, most UN security council members were not convinced peaceful alternatives to war had been exhausted.

He says Blair and Bush blamed France for obstructing action. They said France was undermining the UN security council’s authority.

Chilcot says his inquiry concluded it was America and Britain who were undermining the authority of the UN security council, because they pushed for military action when peaceful alternatives had not been exhausted.

BUT FREEDOM FRIES!!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:41:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:42:06am

re: #163 Anymouse

Why are conservatives so concerned about other people’s private parts? It’s gotten to the point I think they are perverts. As the intrepid owner of this site used to be a conservative, perhaps Mr. Johnson can give me some insight to this issue with conservatism I never understood except as perversion.

America needs to sit down and have an extended discussion about about the nature of sexuality, gender and morality.

It is an article of faith to fundamentalists that anything to do with genitals is inherently sexual and anything sexual is inherently or at least potentially immoral. And it is an article of faith that anything outside the “traditional” categories of male/female gender relationships is an abomination unto the Lord.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:42:41am

Since the winds are blowing more for isolationism these days, I do wonder if the Chilicot report will become a rallying point for those who want the US to pull back from our commitments.

A nontrivial portion of Drumpfskind’s foreign policy, which I suppose I shouldn’t honor with the word “policy”, is about the US withdrawing from our post-WWII commitments in NATO and in the Pacific.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:43:21am

re: #168 freetoken

Since the winds are blowing more for isolationism these days, I do wonder if the Chilicot report will become a rallying point for those who want the US to pull back from our commitments.

A nontrivial portion of Drumpfskind’s foreign policy, which I suppose I shouldn’t honor with the word “policy”, is about the US withdrawing from our post-WWII commitments in NATO and in the Pacific.

I believe he wants to “make them pay for it”.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:46:15am

What does the Chilcot report say?

Sir John Chilcot delivered a devastating critique of Tony Blair’s decision to go to war in Iraq in 2003, concluding that Britain chose to join the US invasion before “peaceful options for disarmament” had been exhausted. His report, which amounts to arguably the most scathing official verdict given on any modern British prime minister, concludes:

Tony Blair exaggerated the case for war in Iraq

There was no imminent threat from Saddam Hussein

The strategy of containment could have been adopted and continued for some time

Despite explicit warnings, the consequences of the invasion were underestimated

The government failed to achieve its stated objectives

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:47:30am

re: #118 Anymouse

Never heard of her.

Here is some interesting derp on her:
illuminati.wikia.com

Not really concerned what she thinks.

(continues at the Illuminati Wiki)

Just clicked and browsed a bit around that wiki… It’s at times as these I curse the Soviet state for abusing the mental disease label to dispose of critics, it makes the bar of how “out there” a political or religious ideology or belief has to be to be recognized as moved into psychiatry’s domain that much harder to reach.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:49:49am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America needs to sit down and have an extended discussion about about the nature of sexuality, gender and morality.

It is an article of faith to fundamentalists that anything to do with genitals is inherently sexual and anything sexual is inherently or at least potentially immoral. And it is an article of faith that anything outside the “traditional” categories of male/female gender relationships is an abomination unto the Lord.

In the meantime there is this wonderful Sunday School teacher that gets parole:

Georgia Mom’s Naked Teen Twister Party Ends with a Guilty Plea and Probation

Six years probation for having sex with two teens and allowing a naked Twister party at her house where she allowed booze and weed. (Her AA sponsor turned her in.) Her record will be sealed if she completes the probation without any further crimes.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:50:51am

The report website:

iraqinquiry.org.uk

Executive summary:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:51:35am

re: #172 Anymouse

In the meantime there is this wonderful Sunday School teacher that gets parole:

Georgia Mom’s Naked Teen Twister Party Ends with a Guilty Plea and Probation

Six years probation for having sex with two teens and allowing a naked Twister party at her house where she allowed booze and weed. (Her AA sponsor turned her in.)

Booze, weed and naked Twister sounds great, but please, consenting adults only…

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:52:33am

re: #171 Teukka

Just clicked and browsed a bit around that wiki… It’s at times as these I curse the Soviet state for abusing the mental disease label to dispose of critics, it makes the bar of how “out there” a political or religious ideology or belief has to be to be recognized as moved into psychiatry’s domain that much harder to reach.

We do it too, with gun murders (as long as the murderer is white, he’s classed as “mentally ill.”)

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 3:54:38am

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Booze, weed and naked Twister sounds great, but please, consenting adults only…

According to the article, she went on an exhibitionist display for the teenagers, and claims she woke up to the sixteen year old having sex with her.

But she is a good Christian, so she is forgiven, and she is a nice white lady Sunday School teacher in Dixie, so no jail.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:00:08am

re: #176 Anymouse

According to the article, she went on an exhibitionist display for the teenagers, and claims she woke up to the sixteen year old having sex with her.

But she is a good Christian, so she is forgiven, and she is a nice white lady Sunday School teacher in Dixie, so no jail.

I often advance the theory that Bible Belt Christians advocate such strict moral rules because they need them: without such a corset, they would spend all their time whoring, drinking, fighting, boozing and gambling.

Other people are able to keep themselves in check without fear of Eternal Hellfire.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:01:31am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I often advance the theory that Bible Belt Christians advocate such strict moral rules because they need them: without such a corset, they would spend all their time whoring, drinking, fighting, boozing and gambling.

Other people are able to keep themselves in check without fear of Eternal Hellfire.

Phil Robertson has pretty much said that he would be out raping and murdering without Christianity.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:02:44am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I often advance the theory that Bible Belt Christians advocate such strict moral rules because they need them: without such a corset, they would spend all their time whoring, drinking, fighting, boozing and gambling.

Other people are able to keep themselves in check without fear of Eternal Hellfire.

I sometimes hold forth in the Yahoo Answers Religion section.

When someone comes up with some nonsense about the Bible being necessary to impart some sort of moral code to failing humans, I point out then that if the Bible is all that keeps the believer from murdering or raping, then by all means don’t give up your religion.

As many, many Protestant and Catholic child abuse stories show, the Bible is an epic failure in that regard.

Had this been a thirty-five year old man, or a member of any minority group, I wonder if Georgia would be so understanding (no I don’t).

In a statement released to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, her lawyer said she is “extremely remorseful” for her actions and is pursuing “professional and pastoral counseling.”

No such special hook for atheists, Muslims, Hindus, &c. But its the Christians that are persecuted.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:08:05am

The since-Murdoch war-mongering WSJ (and note here: American capitalists are not always warmongers, but in the Murdoch empire war is good business) declares:

U.K.’s Long-Awaited Chilcot Report into Iraq War Criticizes Legal Basis for Invasion

Which is a really half-assed headline, given how damning the report is.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:10:55am

One of the first comments at that WSJ article:

James Evans 14 minutes ago
OK, so Blair had not exhausted every possible remaining way to prostrate himself, his country and western civilization in the face of radical islam and politically correct progressives.

That took 6000 pages to say? You progressives really are something.

What can one say about the self-intentionally clueless?

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:12:03am

Alternet notes its been a long time since a sitting president campaigned for his party’s nominee:

alternet.org

They note the last endorsement came from Dwight Eisenhower for then Vice-President Richard Nixon in 1960.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:12:42am

re: #181 freetoken

One of the first comments at that WSJ article:

What can one say about the self-intentionally clueless?

That they are self-intentionally clueless to their face?

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:14:51am

re: #183 Anymouse

After many years of interacting with creationists, I concluded that people will just believe what they want to until faced with a situation in which their beliefs no longer work.

And that goes for everybody, all of us.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:19:17am

re: #181 freetoken

One of the first comments at that WSJ article:

What can one say about the self-intentionally clueless?

The same morons who will vote for a guy who yesterday was praising Saddam for killing terrorists are the ones who think Saddam was a “radical Islamist.”

Yegods.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:24:26am

gaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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Tigger2  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:24:33am
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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:25:27am

re: #184 freetoken

After many years of interacting with creationists, I concluded that people will just believe what they want to until faced with a situation in which their beliefs no longer work.

And that goes for everybody, all of us.

Creationists, however, are not simply content with maintaining their own beliefs; if that were the only issue I would feel sorry for them, but that would be the extent of my concern.

They are dead-set on installing their beliefs in education, in governance, and opposing the rights of others who do not believe as they because they believe their religion tells them to do that.

As long as they do that, I feel I must oppose it in whatever way I can. To sit by and do nothing is to let evil (or in this case evil masked as religious belief) triumph.

The struggle against holding back ignorance from pushing us into a new Dark Age will never end.

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Anymouse  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:29:18am

Sheridan, Indiana Independence Day parade has a float showing President Obama in a toilet and festooned with Donald Trump regalia:

addictinginfo.org

indystar.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:31:36am

Cat just pulled down the TV and broke it.

The day is off to a roaring start…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:34:57am

Free for all on Morning Joke this morning. I could turn to Fox and the only difference would be the set layout.

So. Much. Butthurt.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:35:55am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cat just pulled down the TV and broke it.

The day is off to a roaring start…

Must not have liked what was on TV. :-P

Sorry for your loss.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:36:46am

re: #188 Anymouse

I’m not advocating for non-action.

What I am saying is that we have to let people move on their own time-table, because we really can’t do it for them.

That goes for all sorts of life-situations, I’ve also finally concluded after all these years.

People have to learn from their own lives. What we can do is encourage people towards those decision points, instead of trying to protect them from pain.

Well… ok… maybe I wouldn’t make a great therapist… but my attitude these days is to not try to keep people from “hitting bottom”. That includes the existential crises the creationists are so desperately seeking to avoid.

Now, whether that approach can be mapped to a larger unit - a whole nation - I don’t know. But I suspect that the rise of isolationism in this country is driven in part, but not completely, by the very long Iraq war and the apparently never ending Afghanistan engagement. But there is more. Perhaps national fatigue at the entire nations-management business we’ve been in since WWII (and of course it started before that, especially in Central America and the Caribbean.) Anyway, the US has to “hit bottom” - that is, be really burnt by international engagement - before we’re going to give up our warring ways. And on the flip side of that, isolationists will have to experience the economic decline from their choices to stop working with the world, before they will exhaust their angst over opening up borders to the “other”.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:38:37am

Minimal damage at Daryl’s house

PAWLING - An early morning fire Monday at Daryl’s House caused minimal damage to the Dutchess County restaurant and club, according to Pat Ryan, marketing director and promoter.

The electrical fire began about 4 a.m., Ryan said, and was caused by the Daryl’s House sign in the front of the building, which is just north of Putnam County. The fire was extinguished by the Pawling Fire Department by 5 a.m. Ryan said.

The restaurant and music venue is owned by musician Daryl Hall, of Hall & Oates. Hall is also a former resident of Millbrook and Millerton.

No word on his other brother Daryl.

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Tigger2  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:40:40am

re: #191 Dave In Austin

Free for all on Morning Joke this morning. I could turn to Fox and the only difference would be the set layout.

So. Much. Butthurt.

I’ll have to watch the clips from the show later and laugh at them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:42:50am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cat just pulled down the TV and broke it.

The day is off to a roaring start…

my sympathies. washing machine is on the Fritz…with a load stuck in it and I have to leave for work…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:43:26am

So, we’ve had some rain here lately.

bbc.com

Anhui province is downriver from Hunan province, where I live (on high ground, thankfully). The Yangtze River and its tributaries are all over flood stage now, and the forecast is for more rain over the next several days.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:48:25am

re: #16 KGxvi

Tell me Senator, where do you stand on this important issue?

I’ll tell you in December.

But Senator, the election is in November.

Exactly, and I have to go.

What a whore Ron Johnson is….

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:53:01am

Are we headed to a post-civilization civilization?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:53:11am

re: #197 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, we’ve had some rain here lately.

bbc.com

Anhui province is downriver from Hunan province, where I live (on high ground, thankfully). The Yangtze River and its tributaries are all over flood stage now, and the forecast is for more rain over the next several days.

this is my village at the end of May: oberheimbach.de

go down to the red text “mehr bilder” (more photos) and see what happened down on the creek when a tree trunk blocked a bridge.

the last photo “Haus Jost” shows my current residence, that is not the creek out front, that is the main street.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:56:50am

I’ve also concluded that Yahoo will label as “news” anything that can get clicks, even the silliest of nonsense.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 6, 2016 • 4:58:42am

re: #34 plansbandc

It’s tragic how well Fox’s propaganda has worked. Every R friend I have thinks every lie Fox has spewed about Hillary is the gospel truth.

No argument, no engagement, no reason. Just mocking the libtards.

It’s not just Fox Propaganda. Add in Hate Radio, Right wing newspapers and Religious Right Pulpit Pimp Preachers and Priests who reenforce the GOP talking points 24/7!

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Dave In Austin  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:03:58am

re: #202 Joe Bacon

It’s not just Fox Propaganda. Add in Hate Radio, Right wing newspapers and Religious Right Pulpit Pimp Preachers and Priests who reenforce the GOP talking points 24/7!

MSNBC brought on Rudy this morning to speak to Comey’s credibility… {{Mute}}

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:04:08am
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freetoken  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:05:58am

Philip Bump takes on the craziness of Drumpfskind’s conspiratorial mindset:

Donald Trump’s conspiracy theory-fueled campaign — and the voters who embrace it

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Joe Bacon  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:17:58am

re: #189 Anymouse

Sheridan, Indiana Independence Day parade has a float showing President Obama in a toilet and festooned with Donald Trump regalia:

addictinginfo.org

indystar.com

Not surprising since Indiana was a state run by the Klan during the 1920’s and it’s influence is still deep in that place…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:18:39am

Donald will be in Sharonville, Ohio, for a rally this evening.

With Newt tagging along.

Guessing my cat knew that when she broke the TV…

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Joe Bacon  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:19:21am

re: #203 Dave In Austin

MSNBC brought on Rudy this morning to speak to Comey’s credibility… {{Mute}}

Something tells me that not even Mr. 911 can save Comey from being grilled by such a partisan asshole as Chaffetz!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:20:45am

re: #206 Joe Bacon

Not surprising since Indiana was a state run by the Klan during the 1920’s and it’s influence is still deep in that place…

Bloomington, Indiana is home of Indiana State University, a little island of liberalism surrounded by what is basically the northern border of the Deep South.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:21:06am

Donald Trump Jr. has now quietly unfollowed those white supremacists.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:25:55am

oh god Morning Joke has the vapors over the email thing.

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Tigger2  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:27:47am

re: #211 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

oh god Morning Joke has the vapors over the email thing.

Yep was a lot of crying going on, just watched the clips on MSNBC.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:28:23am

And gonna have to turn off MSNBC until 6, They plan to have Alberto Gonzales on. Someone not qualified to opine on the weather.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:31:19am

re: #213 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And gonna have to turn off MSNBC until 6, They plan to have Alberto Gonzales on. Someone not qualified to opine on the weather.

Alberto Gonzales, the guy whose official testimony on the firing of US Attorneys contained the phrase “I cannot recall” 70 times?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:39:02am

re: #206 Joe Bacon

Not surprising since Indiana was a state run by the Klan during the 1920’s and it’s influence is still deep in that place…

I’ve lived and worked in a few places for about 15 years in and between Lafayette and Bloomington. In some ways I’m not surprised at all. What you said is true; and it’s also true that much of rural Indiana contained “sundown” communities where it was dangerous to be black. But I did want to feature this from the Indy Star because I knew plenty of really good people, too:

County Commissioners Steve Dillinger and Mark Heirbrandt called the golf cart imagery racist and embarrassing.

“Everyone is entitled to their own opinions,” Heirbrandt said, “but in this particular case, I was very disappointed to see this happen.”

Dillinger said you have to respect the presidency, even if you disagree with the president.

“There is just a common decency of dealing with people and being an American,” Dillinger said. “I would never say anything about the president’s race, because I don’t think it has any place in government, politics or life.”

Dillinger said he missed the parade and attended a reunion of the Roberts Settlement, a pioneer homestead founded by free blacks east of Sheridan in 1835. About 150 descendants attended the reunion, which is held every July 4, Dillinger said.

“That really made me proud to live in Hamilton County,” Dillinger said. “Now that this has happened (at the parade), I am not so proud.”

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:39:17am

re: #214 Targetpractice

yeah, no shit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:39:22am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

this is my village at the end of May: oberheimbach.de

go down to the red text “mehr bilder” (more photos) and see what happened down on the creek when a tree trunk blocked a bridge.

the last photo “Haus Jost” shows my current residence, that is not the creek out front, that is the main street.

Rivers make handy places for settlements, but they have their disadvantages.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:40:57am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bloomington, Indiana is home of Indiana State University, a little island of liberalism surrounded by what is basically the northern border of the Deep South.

No sir. Bloomington is the home of Indiana University. ISU is in Terre Haute. Better not make that mistake is you ever come to Indiana. ;-)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:41:05am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bloomington, Indiana is home of Indiana State University, a little island of liberalism surrounded by what is basically the northern border of the Deep South.

Indiana University. ISU is in Terre Haute. Everything else you wrote is correct.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:41:45am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:42:05am

re: #218 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

No sir. Bloomington is the home of Indiana University. ISU is in Terre Haute. Better not make that mistake is you ever come to Indiana. ;-)

Beat me to it. I’m looking forward to going back to B’ton in August for the first time in 4 or 5 years.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:44:10am

re: #221 Barefoot Grin

Beat me to it. I’m looking forward to going back to B’ton in August for the first time in 4 or 5 years.

Been there a couple of times. My son went to Purdue, my niece to IU and my son-in-law, who is from Indy, graduated from Ross-Hulman.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:44:39am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I should have invested in Depends. The GOP leadership must be shitting their pants right now.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:45:35am

re: #210 Charles Johnson

Donald Trump Jr. has now quietly unfollowed those white supremacists.

He should be asked why he was following them in the first place.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:45:52am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve lost track of the number times I’ve been accused of making light of the “sacrifice” that thousands of Americans made in Iraq for questioning the necessity of the war or suggesting things might have been better in the Middle East if Saddam had simply been contained. But Trump says it and you can be sure his supporters will rewrite their memories before day’s end to suggest they were always in favor of leaving him in power.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:47:55am

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Been there a couple of times. My son went to Purdue, my niece to IU and my son-in-law, who is from Indy, graduated from Ross-Hulman.

I taught in high schools around Lafayette/West Lafayette for a few years before going to grad school in B’ton. I used to do a lot of cycling around each area then. I really have great affection for both places and the countryside—so different—around each place. Rose-Hulman is a fantastic school.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:51:56am

‘Saddam used a little gas.’

Full stop. Again.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:52:55am

Yeah, this looks like a terrible idea…

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Tigger2  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:53:10am

re: #219 Barefoot Grin

Indiana University. ISU is in Terre Haute. Everything else you wrote is correct.

Yep where I went to collage and still live in the town.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:53:28am

re: #226 Barefoot Grin

I taught in high schools around Lafayette/West Lafayette for a few years before going to grad school in B’ton. I used to do a lot of cycling around each area then. I really have great affection for both places and the countryside—so different—around each place. Rose-Hulman is a fantastic school.

Indy is a nice city, though I’ve not spent a lot of time there. Broad Ripple is an interesting, trendy kind of area.

R-H is a fine school. Enabled my SiL to get a well paying job with a big ag firm, so he can take good care of my daughter and their new baby.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:54:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:55:45am

O_o

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:57:32am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

That’s the talking point du jour: “He said Saddam was a bad guy, so he wasn’t praising him!”

You know, other than the part where he praised Saddam for the way he handled terrorists…in the fictional universe that exists within the confines of his tiny skull.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:57:59am

Speaking of flood stories, here’s one that happened just a couple of hours from where I am. Citizens managed to rescue a soldier caught in heavy currents in the river. He’d been floating for 2 km.

shanghaiist.com

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 5:59:08am

re: #28 Anymouse

Now that the Egypt Air cockpit voice recorder has been recovered, news reports state that the aircrew fought to put out the fires in the avionics bay and lavatory. In other words, not terrorism.

Someone going to tell Donald Trump that, since he declared right away it was “radical Islamic terrorism?” (tm) Okay media, do your jobs. (who am I kidding, they need a horse race: Edward R Murrow is long dead.)

Terrorism still can’t be ruled out because it is possible that the fire was started due to sabotage or explosive device that didn’t necessarily cause a hull breach and loss of air pressure in the cabin.

But it is a greater likelihood of a malfunction in the avionics/electronics. One suspect source: Li Ion batteries (the same issue that grounded the 787 fleet for months as Boeing redesigned those components).

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:04:52am

re: #235 lawhawk

Terrorism still can’t be ruled out because it is possible that the fire was started due to sabotage or explosive device that didn’t necessarily cause a hull breach and loss of air pressure in the cabin.

But it is a greater likelihood of a malfunction in the avionics/electronics. One suspect source: Li Ion batteries (the same issue that grounded the 787 fleet for months as Boeing redesigned those components).

Another suspect is someone smoking in the lavatory. It wouldn’t be the first time a fire breaks out that way (there is a reason why there is a smoke sensor both in the lavatory and its garbage disposal on some models). Basically, J. Random Loser decides to have a smoke in the lavatory, trips fire alarm or suspicion, gets knock on lavatory door, and disposes of the cigarette in the trash. Yes, it always happens that way, even tho the safer (however more difficult in terms of evidence disposal) is to throw it in the toilet.

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jeffreyw  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:05:42am

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Good morning!

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:05:56am

Oh goodie, Trump’s going to give tryouts for the VP slot to people more qualified than he is to be president:

Next up? Newt. He who still owes his vendors millions from his failed 2012 campaign and whose economic policies are still as destructive and damaging today as they were when he proposed them years ago. I’m sure his family values will go over well with the family values crowd too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:07:02am

re: #238 lawhawk

Oh goodie, Trump’s going to give tryouts for the VP slot to people more qualified than he is to be president:

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Next up? Newt. He who still owes his vendors millions from his failed 2012 campaign and whose economic policies are still as destructive and damaging today as they were when he proposed them years ago. I’m sure his family values will go over well with the family values crowd too.

Newt’s going to be with Donald tonight in Ohio.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:07:58am

So I checked in on FR to see the wingnut response to Herr Trump’s remarks. And imagine my total lack of surprise when I find that, after years of savaging anyone who dared to question the necessity of removing Saddam from power, suddenly Freepers want everybody to believe that they didn’t think removing Saddam from power was a good idea. Though some clever ones are trying to play both sides by saying that Saddam was “better” against the terrorists that the President is today.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:11:42am

re: #240 Targetpractice

I was for getting rid of Saddam before I was against getting rid of them? /Donald Trump and FR

Seriously, that’s what the GOP is now running with?

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:15:39am

re: #241 lawhawk

I was for getting rid of Saddam before I was against getting rid of them? /Donald Trump and FR

Seriously, that’s what the GOP is now running with?

You know how it is, they think that anything we’ve been telling them for years is pearls of wisdom if emitted from one end or the other of Herr Trump. The people who spent years insisting Saddam was connected to the 9/11 hijackers and was a state sponsor of terrorism…now want us to believe that they always believed he was better about dealing with terrorism than (say) Saudi Arabia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:16:35am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:20:53am

re: #240 Targetpractice

So I checked in on FR to see the wingnut response to Herr Trump’s remarks. And imagine my total lack of surprise when I find that, after years of savaging anyone who dared to question the necessity of removing Saddam from power, suddenly Freepers want everybody to believe that they didn’t think removing Saddam from power was a good idea. Though some clever ones are trying to play both sides by saying that Saddam was “better” against the terrorists that the President is today.

We have always been at war with Eurasia Eastasia.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:21:42am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

My pet wingnuts are all into the “Saddam was an islamic terrorist and ISIS is his fault, so it was good we got him out of there, BUT we really shouldn’t have taken him out of Iraq because Trump Reasons”. I do not know how they eat without sticking a fork in an eye. Or just spontaneously combust from the contradictions every 3 or 4 seconds.

I want to move so bad. I swear I walk outside sometimes and I can just feel the stupid lurking everywhere.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:22:15am

/s/

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:22:28am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fox News host Steve Doocy defending Trump’s honor this morning: “I don’t think anybody died at Trump University.”
— Angelo Carusone

LOLwhat?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:22:38am

That Trump person has flip-flopped on every issue so many times that he has tied himself in a pretzel. He is for this one and then later he against them. Oy Vey this election is driving me nuts.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:24:12am

re: #245 A Mom Anon

My pet wingnuts are all into the “Saddam was an islamic terrorist and ISIS is his fault, so it was good we got him out of there, BUT we really shouldn’t have taken him out of Iraq because Trump Reasons”. I do not know how they eat without sticking a fork in an eye. Or just spontaneously combust from the contradictions every 3 or 4 seconds.

I want to move so bad. I swear I walk outside sometimes and I can just feel the stupid lurking everywhere.

So why did loser Obama take out Saddam and mess up Iraq and create ISIS?

///

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:25:54am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Well, he may have fleeced people out of their savings, but at least he didn’t kill anyone doing it, so there’s that.” — Doocy

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:27:25am

The GOP wont do anything but attack Clinton, because it’s all they have. It’s not like they can run affirmative ads for Trump, because he’s got absolutely nothing to tout. His resume is vaporware. He inherited his real estate business and most everything he worked on outside his real estate business failed (bankruptcies, closed, shut down, etc.).

He’s awesome at licensing the Trump name, and being a professional blowhard, but he doesn’t have anything else to run on.

IOW, he’s the perfect GOP candidate since he reflects the core GOP belief system of fact-free since 1973 (it rhymes, so go ahead and quibble on the year).

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:28:56am

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:33:09am

re: #252 Belafon

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:36:16am

re: #251 lawhawk

Brutal GOP video outlines the FBI’s takedown of Hillary Clinton’s email excuses t.co pic.twitter.com
— BI Politics

I thought Comey was in on the conspiracy to exonerate Clinton?

/

More seriously, has HRC addressed the discrepancy between her saying **no** classified emails were sent or received from her private server and the FBI statement saying that at least some classified emails that were so classified at the time were sent? It’s possible the emails in question were not specifically labeled classified—the FBI report suggests that HRC should have known they were.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:36:17am

re: #252 Belafon

When you lose anyone in your family it is hard. The fact that you and your dog were together for so many years makes it even more difficult. Take comfort in all of the good years you had.

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:36:57am

re: #253 lawhawk

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:38:26am

re: #255 PhillyPretzel

When you lose anyone in your family it is hard. The fact that you and your dog were together for so many years makes it even more difficult. Take comfort in all of the good years you had.

Thanks. I’m trying to get through the morning at work, and it’s not easy.

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Tigger2  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:38:37am

re: #246 FormerDirtDart

/s/

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:42:32am

re: #258 Tigger2

Most of the rest of the world has higher vaccination rates than here in the US. Autism is not linked to vaccinations no matter how much Jenny bloviates and cites to the disgraced and fact free Andrew Wakefield. There’s just so much dumbassery packed in those 140 character she posted.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:45:01am

re: #254 Sir John Barron

The NYT editorial says:

Mr. Comey’s remarks also contradicted Mrs. Clinton’s repeated assertion that she didn’t send or receive material that was “marked classified” at the time. She did.

He went on to say, “None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these emails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff.”

snip

As Mrs. Clinton said in the past, and her campaign reiterated on Tuesday, her decision to use private email was a mistake. She remains, far and away, the most experienced and knowledgeable candidate for the presidency, particularly when compared with Mr. Trump. But she has done damage to her reputation by failing to conform to the established security policies of the department she ran and by giving evasive or misleading answers about her actions and motivations. If there was ever a time that Mrs. Clinton needed to demonstrate that she understands the forthrightness demanded of those who hold the nation’s highest office, this is that moment.

Politically, this strikes me as the most problematic issue arising from the investigation. OTOH, it seems hard to believe HRC would categorically deny that classified emails were sent over the server, knowing that an investigation might yield the opposite conclusion. At a minimum, there is likely a disagreement. Or HRC could say she did not believe she had, but that she accepts the FBI reports conclusions and apologizes.

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:45:29am

re: #257 Belafon

Thanks. I’m trying to get through the morning at work, and it’s not easy.

And I’m sorry I’m airing it out here, and I know it’s just me begging for sympathy.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:47:42am

Cue RWNJ outrageous outrage in 3…2…1…

It’ll be the same BS they spewed when Idris Elba was picked to play Heimdahl in Thor movies.

Things I didn’t know about Idris - he owns the record for the flying mile in the UK.

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:48:03am

re: #260 Sir John Barron

As someone who has to deal with that kind of thing, it can be hard. Put two things together that individually aren’t a problem, and together they are. Especially if you are as close to the edge as someone at State would be.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:48:58am

re: #12 Stanley Sea

I would vote for “Old man yelling at clouds’ party…

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Skip Intro  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:50:59am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

Odd. Nothing Trump said about Saddam or his mob chanting “hang the bitch” made it into the liberal papers I read today. It’s as though they’re covering a completely different Trump.

Hillary, on the other hand, is getting roasted today.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:51:41am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

So. Bernie Madoff is innocent?!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:52:13am

re: #261 Belafon

And I’m sorry I’m airing it out here, and I know it’s just me begging for sympathy.

I spent many nights on the phone talking to my sister when she had to let go of her suffering Lab, Riley. I didn’t mind because—sister—but also because I’ve felt that pain and the bond between dog and dog’s person can run so deep. I’m working on my wife to let us get a dog, but she is avoiding it because she doesn’t want to feel that pain, she says.

My condolences, and thanks for sharing the DK link yesterday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:54:07am

re: #261 Belafon

And I’m sorry I’m airing it out here, and I know it’s just me begging for sympathy.

Nope, that’s what we’re here for.

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Skip Intro  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:56:04am

re: #238 lawhawk

Family values never apply to Republicans. They’re above reproach just for being Republicans.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:56:33am

re: #259 lawhawk

Most of the rest of the world has higher vaccination rates than here in the US. Autism is not linked to vaccinations no matter how much Jenny bloviates and cites to the disgraced and fact free Andrew Wakefield. There’s just so much dumbassery packed in those 140 character she posted.

There’s a vaccine shortage in China, so some parents are taking their kids to Hong Kong and Macau to get their vaccinations. I suspect living in a country with 1.3 billion people makes one acutely aware of the dangers of epidemic disease.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:57:30am

re: #260 Sir John Barron

From the NYT front page:

At least 110 emails sent through her server contained information that was classified at the time it was sent, he said, meaning it should never have been sent or received on an unclassified computer network — not hers, not even the State Department’s official state.gov system.

snip

“This is very much a moving target,” he said, referring to Mr. Comey’s remark that 2,000 emails were “up-classified” to make them confidential. “That may have contributed to the reluctance to pursue criminal charges.”

Other factors might have been the frequency and the recipients. The 110 emails represented only a small fraction of the roughly 60,000 emails that passed through Mrs. Clinton’s servers. Even with the 2,000 that the State Department upgraded as part of their public release, they account for fewer than 7 percent of those sent and received. Also, as one law enforcement official noted, the recipients of the most sensitive emails included aides or diplomats who have clearances to receive classified information — as opposed to a journalist, as was the case with the former director of the C.I.A., David H. Petraeus.

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Jay C  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:58:25am

re: #181 freetoken

One of the first comments at that WSJ article:

What can one say about the self-intentionally clueless?

Mr. Evans comes across as someone staring at a plain white wall, and loudly insisting that it’s black - while slapping himself in the face with a black paintbrush all the while.
IOW, a typical modern “conservative”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:58:31am

re: #265 Skip Intro

Odd. Nothing Trump said about Saddam or his mob chanting “hang the bitch” made it into the liberal papers I read today. It’s as though they’re covering a completely different Trump.

Hillary, on the other hand, is getting roasted today.

Nice, Christian people at Trump rally just concerned about too much government.

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 6:59:17am

re: #256 Belafon

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Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:00:02am

re: #271 Sir John Barron

From the NYT front page:

snip

How is Clinton responsible for what other people send in e-mails to her?

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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:01:19am

re: #274 nines09

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CuriousLurker  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:02:05am

re: #261 Belafon

And I’m sorry I’m airing it out here, and I know it’s just me begging for sympathy.

Don’t apologize for being human. I’m sure it’s tough on the wife & kids too. {{{Belafon}}}

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:02:20am

re: #46 Nyet

Upding for “Bat Out of Hell II” reference.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:03:41am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nope, that’s what we’re here for.

One of my felines is nearing the end. She isn’t suffering, just not eating as much or getting around as well. Frustrating thing is trying to manage the medication. The doctor thinks Abbie may have small cell lymphoma, so she prescribed a cancer drug for that. But I think it’s dampening her appetite, so I am inclined to discontinue it. The vet did prescribe an appetite stimulate for me to pick up tonight. I am in addition giving her heart medication.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:04:40am

re: #275 Timothy Watson

How is Clinton responsible for what other people send in e-mails to her?

I don’t know. We’re the classified ones all ones she received only?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:05:02am

So, just got off the phone with MrBWS….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:05:09am

re: #275 Timothy Watson

How is Clinton responsible for what other people send in e-mails to her?

Hopefully HRC will address this.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:05:15am
Authorities are looking into an incident caught on video that appears to show a high-ranking Navy official pointing a gun at people during a confrontation in a northern Virginia neighborhood.

In video obtained by CBS News, a man who appears to be Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Navy Karnig Ohannessian stands on a sidewalk in front of a two-story suburban home, arguing with a group of young men, telling them to leave and pointing a gun at them. Meanwhile, a woman tries to calm him, telling him to get in the house and at one point, pushing his arm down and away from the men.

Fairfax County Police spokeswoman Officer Megan Hawkins said by telephone that officers responded to reports of disorderly conduct and a man brandishing a gun on June 11 in a Burke neighborhood, but the alleged victims left by the time they arrived. Two days later, she says a person made a report at a station and an officer went to the same block to arrest a man, but the magistrate’s office declined a warrant. Hawkins declined to identify the man since the warrant was declined.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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makeitstop  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:05:31am

Bobblehead. As good a description of Trump as any, I guess.

Also, not anatomically correct - unless they used the younger Trump as a model.

And the hands are way too big.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:06:48am

re: #276 Belafon

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:08:11am

re: #284 makeitstop

Bobblehead. As good a description of Trump as any, I guess.

Also, not anatomically correct - unless they used the younger Trump as a model.

And the hands are way too big.

Also, its mouth is closed. Not true-to-life. Weak.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:08:29am

re: #252 Belafon

{{No updings}}} . My time is coming soon

He’s 11 now and is having trouble with his legs. My sweet Brutus…

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bratwurst  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:10:30am

The day is young, but I doubt you will read a more delusional tweet than this:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:10:34am

Says the guy with white tanning-booth goggle eyes

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:11:03am

re: #271 Sir John Barron

Also, as one law enforcement official noted, the recipients of the most sensitive emails included aides or diplomats who have clearances to receive classified information — as opposed to a journalist, as was the case with the former director of the C.I.A., David H. Petraeus.

This seems like an important consideration. It’s not like HRC was sending classified info out to just anyone. The GOP and media want to make it seem like that. The main issue is the security of the network. A secondary issue would be the need to maintain the email record.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:11:58am

re: #288 bratwurst

The day is young, but I doubt you will read a more delusional tweet than this:

The day is indeed young, but that email is rocketing up the charts of the most derpy of all time.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:12:59am

re: #288 bratwurst

The day is young, but I doubt you will read a more delusional tweet than this:

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Every conqueror in history has believed that his actions were in the best interests of the conquered.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:13:05am

re: #289 The Vicious Babushka

Says the guy with white tanning-booth goggle eyes

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Didn’t a lot of spectators bail out early from that speech? The standing O must have been from the remaining audience who were glad he finally finished talking.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:13:28am

re: #289 The Vicious Babushka

Sleepy eyes Chuck Todd, a man with so little touch for politics, is at it again.He could not have watched my standing ovation speech in N.C.
— Donald J. Trump

This guy…weeks away from the GOP party nom and he’s still tweeting out self-congratulatory derp about his crowd sizes and ovations and how great he is.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:14:07am

re: #294 Sir John Barron

This guy…weeks away from the GOP party nom and he’s still tweeting out self-congratulatory derp about his crowd sizes and ovations and how great he is.

He has the best words.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:14:13am

re: #294 Sir John Barron

This guy…weeks away from the GOP party nom and he’s still tweeting out self-congratulatory derp about his crowd sizes and ovations and how great he is.

It will be even worse after the convention.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:14:34am
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Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:14:38am

re: #294 Sir John Barron

This guy…weeks away from the GOP party nom and he’s still tweeting out self-congratulatory derp about his crowd sizes and ovations and how great he is.

His power is measured in ratings.

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Ming5000  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:16:59am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

A bad start unless you have had your eye on a new UHDTV. Our simple HD TV is still working fine, but, oh, I have been craving the UHDTV.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:18:13am

Um probably not, Trump voters are more likely to answer phone polls.

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bratwurst  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:18:53am

In other news, a well-known dimwit turns out not be a man of his word:

Walker’s Trump endorsement marks a double-reversal for Walker, First, he had walked back his support from Trump until the mogul “renounced” his attack on the “Mexican” judge in his trump University fraud case . Trump has never done so.

Second, Walker had called for delegates to be freed to vote their conscience at the Cleveland convention. Never mind about that, too.

Walker will now have an important speaking slot at the convention where he can launch his 2020 campaign. There are probably some dumbasses among Trump supporters who are suspicious of the Donald’s education. They will, of course, have no such problem with Walker.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:19:14am

Hell, this past Monday we celebrated 240 years since we made our intent clear to throw out the English for thinking that silencing dissenters, shutting down printing presses, and seizing arms was in our bests interests because it was in the Crown’s best interests.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:20:46am

re: #252 Belafon

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You encouraged me to take my dog out for a longer walk this morning. Dogs don’t live very long. They deserve everything we give them and more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:21:09am

re: #299 Ming5000

A bad start unless you have had your eye on a new UHDTV. Our simple HD TV is still working fine, but, oh, I have been craving the UHDTV.

Been window shopping online and might go for one of the TVs that have Roku (they don’t cost much more), otherwise it’ll just be another simple HDTV.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:23:30am
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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:26:25am

re: #22 MsJ

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:26:39am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So who’s ready for at least 6 years of investigating the investigation and investigating the investigation of the investigation and etc.?

Anything to continue the nearly 3 decades long smear campaign against Hillary Clinton.

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:27:06am

re: #301 bratwurst

In other news, a well-known dimwit turns out not be a man of his word:

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Walker will now have an important speaking slot at the convention where he can launch his 2020 campaign. There are probably some dumbasses among Trump supporters who are suspicious of the Donald’s education. They will, of course, have no such problem with Walker.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and lube.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:29:01am

re: #307 Kryptik

So who’s ready for at least 6 years of investigating the investigation and investigating the investigation of the investigation and etc.?

Anything to continue the nearly 3 decades long smear campaign against Hillary Clinton.

The investigation did not produce the results we desired. We will now investigate the investigation to see if that will produce the results we desired. Repeat as needed.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:29:08am

re: #301 bratwurst

In other news, a well-known dimwit turns out not be a man of his word:

Walker will now have an important speaking slot at the convention where he can launch his 2020 campaign. There are probably some dumbasses among Trump supporters who are suspicious of the Donald’s education. They will, of course, have no such problem with Walker.

Now Walker should be made to tag along with DT on the campaign trail to properly demonstrate his obeisance.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:29:13am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Check slickdeals.net. Good tv deals are posted there often.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:29:46am

re: #309 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The investigation did not produce the results we desired. We will now investigate the investigation to see if that will produce the results we desired. Repeat as needed.

They seem to have forgotten Benghazi at least. That was last week’s outrage.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:30:51am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not that the House GOP wants to politicize the investigation any further, mind you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:33:18am

re: #312 Sir John Barron

They seem to have forgotten Benghazi at least. That was last week’s outrage.

It will eventually come back to Benghazi…

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:35:17am

re: #313 Sir John Barron

Not that the House GOP wants to politicize the investigation any further, mind you.

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And if it’s politicized, it’s always the Dems’ and CLinton’s fault, because they hate the security of America so damn much. Historic, unprecedented corruption off the scale!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:38:58am

Obama speaking right now about US troops in Afghanistan.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:40:10am

re: #309 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Have to investigate the investigator responsible for the 8th investigation too.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:41:12am
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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:43:00am

Well, that was a nice round of politically-drive Facebook defriending.

When did we allow internet brogressives to establish beyond a shadow of a doubt that protectionist trade and economic isolationism were a core liberal tenets?

I’m not personally learned enough to argue for or against TPP on its specific merits. Frankly, I suspect neither are most of you. Do not attack supporters of the treaty merely because it is a trade treaty. You look fucking stupid, and I do not want you on my side.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:44:41am

The months old trope that Trump repeats ad nauseum, which the media covered, but the rest of the GOP shrugged off because they needed the GOP core voters as badly as Trump did.

Now, there’s no competition for Trump voters. The GOP owns everything Trump says, so the media attention is focusing on everything Trump said previously, which corresponds to his current babbling/baffling BS.

The GOP owns the Trump mess. They built that.

Own it GOP. You created the suck.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:47:30am

The FBI reputation crumbles when the GOP belief system isn’t corroborated by endless investigations:

This continues to show the pattern of GOP operational politics: if a decision doesn’t come down in favor of the GOP, undermine the very institution issuing decision. We’ve seen this with the courts (abortion, SSM, civil rights), and we’re seeing it with law enforcement too - though in differing degrees. When cops kill unarmed black people, the LEOs are infallible, but when they issue decisions finding no reasonable prosecutor would indict Clinton, then there’s something wrong with the process.

On and on it goes….

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:48:10am

re: #319 Testy Toad T

Facebook. Where the ill informed go to get really ill informed.
#1= Say…If you wish to talk to me, please do so. Stop with the trash links.
#2=No? Unfollow. Clear your timeline.
#3= WTF. Unfriend. Block and have a nice life.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:48:36am

re: #317 GlutenFreeJesus

Have to investigate the investigator responsible for the 8th investigation too.

The investigators of the party hired to investigate the Clintons after the other people had been sacked, wish it to be known that they have just been sacked.

The investigation has been completed in an entirely different style at great expense and at the last minute. Executive Producer JOHN GOLDSTONE & “RALPH” The Wonder Llama Producer MARK FORSTATER Assisted By EARL J. LLAMA MIKE Q. LLAMA III SY LLAMA MERLE Z. LLAMA IX Directed By 40 SPECIALLY TRAINED ECUADORIAN MOUNTAIN LLAMAS 6 VENEZUELAN RED LLAMAS 142 MEXICAN WHOOPING LLAMAS 14 NORTH CHILEAN GUANACOS (CLOSELY RELATED TO THE LLAMA) REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON 76000 BATTERY LLAMAS FROM “LLAMA-FRESH” FARMS LTD. NEAR PARAGUAY and TERRY GILLIAM & TERRY JONES

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:50:41am

re: #321 lawhawk

The FBI reputation crumbles when the GOP belief system isn’t corroborated by endless investigations:

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This continues to show the pattern of GOP operational politics: if a decision doesn’t come down in favor of the GOP, undermine the very institution issuing decision. We’ve seen this with the courts (abortion, SSM, civil rights), and we’re seeing it with law enforcement too - though in differing degrees. When cops kill unarmed black people, the LEOs are infallible, but when they issue decisions finding no reasonable prosecutor would indict Clinton, then there’s something wrong with the process.

On and on it goes….

They try to undermine those making the calls, but instead look petty for attacking people they previously lavished love and praise upon. They’re attacking the integrity of the FBI while trying to insist that it is the FBI that has damaged its integrity. How? By not giving them the pony they wanted so badly.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:53:29am

re: #321 lawhawk

The FBI reputation crumbles when the GOP belief system isn’t corroborated by endless investigations:

This continues to show the pattern of GOP operational politics: if a decision doesn’t come down in favor of the GOP, undermine the very institution issuing decision. We’ve seen this with the courts (abortion, SSM, civil rights), and we’re seeing it with law enforcement too - though in differing degrees. When cops kill unarmed black people, the LEOs are infallible, but when they issue decisions finding no reasonable prosecutor would indict Clinton, then there’s something wrong with the process.

On and on it goes….

Instapundit.

Nuff said.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:54:12am

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:56:17am

re: #321 lawhawk

The FBI reputation crumbles when the GOP belief system isn’t corroborated by endless investigations:

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This continues to show the pattern of GOP operational politics: if a decision doesn’t come down in favor of the GOP, undermine the very institution issuing decision. We’ve seen this with the courts (abortion, SSM, civil rights), and we’re seeing it with law enforcement too - though in differing degrees. When cops kill unarmed black people, the LEOs are infallible, but when they issue decisions finding no reasonable prosecutor would indict Clinton, then there’s something wrong with the process.

On and on it goes….

And the worst part is they get away with it and continue to get away with it regardless of any pushback they face because the right-wing owns the entire goddamn discourse from top to bottom. That’s how Black LIves Matter groups get turned into ‘hate groups worse than the KKK’, police get turned into a protected class because of ‘rampant violence and threats against the police for being police’ and the further explosive acceptance of minority groups as somehow being inherently and incurably criminal while members of the ‘default’ group get dismissed as ‘lone wolves’, ‘exceptions to the rule’ and, even worse, ‘liberal agitators’.

NOthing changes, and even worse, trying to fight it simply seems to result in them winning the conversation even further because they own the volume and get to determine whether you get treated as the Great Satan or not for the temerity of questioning them.

Yes, I know I’m being defeatest. But dammit, I need to vent with friendly ears somewhere or else I’m going to simply bottle it up in further silent despondence because it literally feels like trying to change minds anywhere on this shit results in folks running unreachably toward the right simply out of spite for anything left-wing.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:56:44am

re: #325 Sir John Barron

There was a time when I was chasing hits/hat tips from him. No more. That ship sailed years ago - 2008/2009 to be precise.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:57:31am

If only our own right wing politicians would follow this example:

dispute erupted over statements by newly elected legislator Wolfgang Gedeon, who suggested the Holocaust was given too much attention.

He also suggested Holocaust denial - illegal in Germany - was legitimate.

He quit after 13 opponents, including AfD’s national co-leader, resigned.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:58:32am

re: #323 Testy Toad T

A moose once bit my sister.

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MsJ  Jul 6, 2016 • 7:58:47am

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Rosario Dawson is in full on cult fanatic mode.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:00:08am

re: #122 Nyet

Oh look, a Basic Becky.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:00:59am

So, I’m back home. Here’s some photos I took while I was in Prague. Enjoy.

drlizardo.imgur.com

Not the best photos, mind you, but not bad for a Samsung phone camera.

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EmmaAnne  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:05:56am

re: #282 Sir John Barron

Hopefully HRC will address this.

I hope she doesn’t. She should treat it as over and done and thank the FBI for their hard work. Mistakes were made; now what can do to improve things in the future?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:08:06am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:08:32am

re: #334 EmmaAnne

I hope she doesn’t. She should treat it as over and done and thank the FBI for their hard work. Mistakes were made; now what can do to improve things in the future?

Not a single soul will be convinced of anything one way or the other. You think she’s Hitler or you think she is an old lady with an IT blind spot. There’s no middle ground anymore. Let’s move on.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:10:29am

re: #333 Dr Lizardo

I edited the link.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:14:10am
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Bubblehead II  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:15:46am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

I edited the link.

DrLizardo’s images are not publicly available.

Don’t have a Imjur account

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:21:22am

re: #340 Bubblehead II

DrLizardo’s images are not publicly available.

Don’t have a Imjur account

OK……….try it now.

drlizardo.imgur.com

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Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:24:46am

re: #331 MsJ

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Let me get this straight. NRO writes an article about Hillary and Rosario Dawson links to it in a tweet complete with hash tag soup about the system being rigged. Circle of derp, something something.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:26:26am

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

OK……….try it now.

drlizardo.imgur.com

Metallica concert?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:26:46am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:27:36am

re: #343 Bubblehead II

Metallica concert?

Iron Maiden.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:31:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:36:53am
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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:37:01am

re: #289 The Vicious Babushka

Says the guy with white tanning-booth goggle eyes

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Is he running for president or to take Howie Kurtz’s job? Sad.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:37:25am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

My eyes always autocorrect that to Steve Douchey.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:39:30am

re: #339 lawhawk

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Am I the only one whose mind immediately went to Jabba the Hutt when thinking about Roger Ailes as sexual predator?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:41:15am

re: #349 Testy Toad T

My eyes always autocorrect that to Steve Douchey.

And my inside joke with myself is “I gotta drop a doocy.”

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:41:52am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald will be in Sharonville, Ohio, for a rally this evening.

With Newt tagging along.

Guessing my cat knew that when she broke the TV…

He really seems to be working that Southwestern part of Ohio. I wonder how much he will work central Ohio (Columbus) and Northeastern Ohio (Cleveland-Akron-Youngstown)? I get the feeling he is staying away from areas he knows might not be all that ready to buy his BS. We shall see as the show goes on.

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Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:42:57am

I’m ready to gasp, Donald. Where are these fundraising numbers???

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:43:24am

at the end of the article, Bernie throws a lifeline to HA and Shaun and the rest of the berners:

Sanders also weighed in at a press conference on the FBI’s decision not to recommend charges against Clinton for sending classified information over her private servers as secretary of State.

“I think you’ve heard me say from Day One that there is a process in terms of the investigation regarding Secretary Clinton and the emails,” Sanders said. “Yesterday was an important part of that process. Now we wait to hear from the Justice Department.”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:43:35am

New Polls Show Trump Still Winning By -5 Points

in other trump news, extraction of foot from mouth project projected to be underway soon

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:44:20am

re: #211 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

oh god Morning Joke has the vapors over the email thing.

I usually catch the first 20 minutes, but this morning I didn’t turn to it until about 15 minutes in and at that point everyone was talking at once with Joe screaming over them. I decided I didn’t need that this morning so I changed the channel.

Gonna look up the segments a bit later for a laugh.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:44:22am

re: #353 Jenner7

I’m ready to gasp, Donald. Where are these fundraising numbers???

The self-funding campaign that relies on donors giving millions? Or the self-funding campaign that relies on other family businesses so that he can write them off as tax deductions or expenses? Yeah, that campaign….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:46:56am

re: #352 ObserverArt

Hope they brought lots of water with them, because they’re going to need it while they wait today.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:48:25am

re: #337 lawhawk

CPSC has ordered recall of 500,000 hoverboards over fire risks.

And the DEA is looking at that DeLorean.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:49:14am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

at the end of the article, Bernie throws a lifeline to HA and Shaun and the rest of the berners:

But he’s still getting rewarded for his obstinacy, so why would he change?

nbcnews.com

Hillary’s feeding the flames of the Berners when she concedes policy points to him. Sanders should have been met with the same word as any other willful toddler: NO. You get nothing until you clean your plate and endorse your nominee.

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:49:38am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

Newt’s going to be with Donald tonight in Ohio.

Damn…and I am all out of bug spray.

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Mattand  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:49:53am

re: #339 lawhawk

Wow. Gretchen Carlson files sexual harassment suit against Fox News chief Roger Ailes.

Makes one wonder what kind of bombshells Megyn Kelly is holding on to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:51:12am
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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:53:13am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

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at the end of the article, Bernie throws a lifeline to HA and Shaun and the rest of the berners:

OFFS, Bernie, give it a rest. She’s not going to be indicted and you’re not going to be the nominee. Now stop pouting, endorse her already, and then disappear back to Burlington until 2018.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:55:00am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

When you’ve lost Gretchen Carlson….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:56:24am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gretchen Carlson being fired from Fox for not having sex with Roger Ailes clears up the mystery of Hannity’s continued employment
— TBogg

Well what the hell good is it to be the boss and not be able to force the on-air talent to sleep with you?

////

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Ming5000  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:57:56am

re: #334 EmmaAnne

Agree. Let’s move on.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 8:59:25am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

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at the end of the article, Bernie throws a lifeline to HA and Shaun and the rest of the berners:

As he should be. He continues to refuse to drop out. I am so glad that he’s not going to be the nominee. He would be a poor nominee and an even poorer president IMO.

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Ming5000  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:02:13am

re: #339 lawhawk

Whoa! I know our own hand wringing over HRC’s emails is so dramatic and interesting, but I do enjoy the Right’s internecine warfare.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:02:15am

the stupid just keeps coming…

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:02:26am

re: #296 The Vicious Babushka

It will be even worse after the convention.

That convention has all the possibilities of being one real messed up black hole in both media and politics. I’m thinking it will be hard to be worse after it, but I admit I never thought we’d be where we are right now. Trumpism doesn’t seem to have a floor.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:02:42am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Can’t say I’m surprised. Doocy comes off as a sexist asshole. I can’t imagine what he’s like to work with.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:03:29am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

the stupid just keeps coming…

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Ryan again showing why the GOP establishment sucks just as much as Trump.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:04:32am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

the stupid just keeps coming…

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White House response: “Blow it out your ass, Ryan.”

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:04:42am
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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:04:43am

re: #373 HappyWarrior

Ryan again showing why the GOP establishment sucks just as much as Trump.

He’s also showing why Trump or someone like him was inevitable- his mouth is writing checks on an account that’s already deeply overdrawn. He literally cannot keep the promises he’s making and implying under our current system of government.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:04:47am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:04:52am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

Steve Doocy? No way…..

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:05:44am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

the stupid just keeps coming…

Yeah, we’ll get right on that…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:05:55am

re: #360 Brian J.

She should do it Willy Wonka style:

You Get Nothing!

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:06:32am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

Considering that any reasonable examination of Trump advisors might warn against security briefings for Paul Manafort among others, be careful what you wish for Ryan. And one has to wonder what kind of things would be uncovered in a security audit of Congressional emails among ranking members in both parties.

I’d bet there’d be some serious violations of email rules. Especially among the longtime members who have had security clearances.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:06:33am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Can’t say I’m surprised. Doocy comes off as a sexist asshole. I can’t imagine what he’s like to work with.

He just oozes ugliness.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:07:21am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Again doesn’t surprise me that the attitude towards women comes from the top. Ailes is an old creep who employs creepy old men and eye candy.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:07:35am

re: #381 lawhawk

Considering that any reasonable examination of Trump advisors might warn against security briefings for Paul Manafort among others, be careful what you wish for Ryan. And one has to wonder what kind of things would be uncovered in a security audit of Congressional emails among ranking members in both parties.

I’d bet there’d be some serious violations of email rules. Especially among the longtime members who have had security clearances.

This is a can of worms that the GOP would be wise not to open. But they’re not wise, so they’ll crack it open and then be shocked when it blows up in their faces.

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:07:44am

re: #318 lawhawk

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Speaking of blowing.

Paul Ryan sucks.

I am now wondering how long he is going to last as Speaker. I get the feeling he is not going to be enough of whatever to satisfy the pack of wolves he works for and he doesn’t have the “bite” of Boehner to put people in their place. I think he will just grow frustrated with it all and pack it in.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:07:44am

re: #382 Sir John Barron

He just oozes ugliness.

To be fair most of the people at that network do.

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Mattand  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:08:03am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

the stupid just keeps coming…

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Can you imagine the amount of sheer willpower it takes to demand that a POTUS candidate who is a former senator and Secretary of State be denied classified info; yet be at peace with a malignant, narcissistic, inexperienced moron receiving that same intel?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:08:41am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t these people have jobs?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:09:05am

re: #384 Targetpractice

Like a cartoon where Paul Ryan and Reince Preibus are Coyotes to HRC’s Roadrunner.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:09:21am

re: #388 GlutenFreeJesus

Don’t these people have jobs?

apparently not.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:09:55am

re: #387 Mattand

It’s not about willpower, its about money.

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:10:01am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

apparently not.

A lot of them are probably retired, to the relief of their former employers. That looks like an awfully unimpressive crowd, by the way.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:10:04am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:10:30am

re: #388 GlutenFreeJesus

Don’t these people have jobs?

ALL TEH MECKSICAN ILLEAGLES TUK THERE JERBS!!!!1!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:14:14am

re: #393 Sir John Barron

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Video

Since I’ve seen the GF trilogy many times now, I like watching the minor characters like Senator Geary. The line “We’part of the same hypocrisy” is really good. Great acting by Pacino and Spraldin in that scene.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:14:44am

See, a smart Speaker might have used Comey’s speech to go after the State Dept, since Republicans generally hate State if it’s not actively bent to their will. But no, instead they’re going to stage a public pissing match over security clearance, opening them up to very public questions about Trump and his suitability for the same clearance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:16:51am

and MORE stupids:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:18:19am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

and MORE stupids:

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Sure it was.

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nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:18:29am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

But we all know the bit*h was asking for it. Dressing like that. All that makeup. Sitting that way. Nice to know the pile of shit you always suspected Fox to be…………..IS A MUCH BIGGER PILE OF SHIT!

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Bubblehead II  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:25:02am
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Mattand  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:26:49am

re: #399 nines09

But we all know the bit*h was asking for it. Dressing like that. All that makeup. Sitting that way. Nice to know the pile of shit you always suspected Fox to be…………..IS A MUCH BIGGER PILE OF SHIT!

Josh Marshall has a quickie editorial over at TPM that makes a really important point: in the Fox News bubble, sexual harassment just isn’t a thing. It’s a made up fantasy pushed by angry feminists, essentially.

To have one of their A-list female employees file a suit like this is huge.* I really fear for Carlson and the death threats she’s about to receive from the Fox faithful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:28:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:29:21am

re: #401 Mattand

Josh Marshall has a quickie editorial over at TPM that makes a really important point: in the Fox News bubble, sexual harassment just isn’t a thing. It’s a made up fantasy pushed by angry feminists, essentially.

To have one of their A-list female employees file a suit like this is huge.* I really fear for Carlson and the death threats she’s about to receive from the Fox faithful.

Yeah I agree with Josh there. It really isn’t surprising to me to see that the attitudes they project about women show up in how they treat actual women. Anyhow, I hope Carlson exposes Ailes and Coocy for the assholes they are. O’Reilly is another FNC guy who loves sexual harassment.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:32:07am
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bratwurst  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:32:07am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

and MORE stupids:

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Was the “employee” who posted that tweet named John Barron or John Miller by chance? /

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Bubblehead II  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:32:23am

Just slammed Christi for following tRump around and holding his coat instead of doing his job.

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plansbandc  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:33:13am
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Bubblehead II  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:33:50am

Now slamming tRump for his business failures in front of the abandoned tRump casino plaza.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:33:53am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:34:41am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

and MORE stupids:

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New to twitter.

Did he hire my 85 year old Aunt?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:35:11am
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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:35:57am

Jeez, the humidity is going to be bad today in Ohio. I just checked local weather and it is 83° with humidity making it feel like it is 91°. Lovely.

Now I know why Sleuth was saying the people in Sharonville waiting in line for Trump will need water.

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bratwurst  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:36:29am

It took several minutes for the minimizing of sexual harassment to begin:

What war on women?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:37:04am

re: #412 ObserverArt

Jeez, the humidity is going to be bad today in Ohio. I just checked local weather and it is 83° with humidity making it feel like it is 91°. Lovely.

Now I know why Sleuth was saying the people in Sharonville waiting in line for Trump will need water.

They should be getting hit by thunderstorms pretty soon.
So that’s a positive…

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Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:37:43am

re: #413 bratwurst

It took several minutes for the minimizing of sexual harassment to begin:

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What war on women?

Podhoretz has argued previously that we should have ethnically cleansed the male Sunni population in Iraq if we wanted a lasting peace.

Anything else is pretty much small potatoes after that.

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Jay C  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:38:19am

re: #385 ObserverArt

Speaking of blowing.

Paul Ryan sucks.

I am now wondering how long he is going to last as Speaker. I get the feeling he is not going to be enough of whatever to satisfy the pack of wolves he works for and he doesn’t have the “bite” of Boehner to put people in their place. I think he will just grow frustrated with it all and pack it in.

I agree: I’ve been wondering, regardless of what happens with the Presidency and the Senate, if the House Republicans in the 115th Congress aren’t going to [at least try to] stage some sort of internal coup to replace Ryan with a “true conservative” Speaker - i.e., a firebreathing Teabagger true-believer - who will make it his Mission to make absolutely sure that the House Of Representatives is even more ideologically radical, more obstructionist, more unproductive and more hostile to a (presumed) Clinton Administration than any of their predecessors were to President Obama. Paul Ryan is, of course, Teh Suck, and a second-rate Speaker at best, BUT… Speaker Steve King, anyone?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:38:41am

I wonder, what an all female 24 hour news network would be like?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:38:50am

re: #412 ObserverArt

Jeez, the humidity is going to be bad today in Ohio. I just checked local weather and it is 83° with humidity making it feel like it is 91°. Lovely.

Now I know why Sleuth was saying the people in Sharonville waiting in line for Trump will need water.

and brains.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:39:54am

re: #403 HappyWarrior

Yeah I agree with Josh there. It really isn’t surprising to me to see that the attitudes they project about women show up in how they treat actual women. Anyhow, I hope Carlson exposes Ailes and Coocy for the assholes they are. O’Reilly is another FNC guy who loves sexual harassment.

In case there was ever any doubt about how Fox News does its hiring… I used to date a guy who was a local reporter in Tennessee. One of his fellow reporters had also modeled and knew a lot of other women who did modeling for Maxim and other magazines. She told him one day that one of her friends had met Roger Ailes at a party. Ailes hired her on the spot for Fox News. This woman had 0 experience in journalism/news anchoring, but did that matter? HELL NO. She could employ her vast journalistic experience holding up signs at wrestling matches and posing in Maxim.

The ex decided shortly after that maybe TV news wasn’t all he thought it would be.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:40:39am

Alberto Gonzalez willing to overlook Trump’s racism to get more anti-LGBT Supreme Court justices

Just a reminder, the H.A. Goodman’s and Shaun King’s of the world side with Gonzalez simply because Bernie lost.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:42:29am

Every contractor knows exactly that guy trump.

Never pays after work is completed.

I can’t imagine the blindness of them voting for that fuck.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:43:03am

Can we call him HABADMAN now?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:43:42am

re: #422 Eclectic Cyborg

Can we call him HABADMAN now?

I prefer HAHAHA —> Goodman

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:44:18am

re: #423 Dr. Matt

I prefer HAHAHA —> Goodman

HAHA GOODONE

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:44:55am
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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:45:30am

re: #420 Dr. Matt

Alberto Gonzalez willing to overlook Trump’s racism to get more anti-LGBT Supreme Court justices

Just a reminder, the H.A. Goodman’s and Shaun King’s of the world side with Gonzalez simply because Bernie lost.

Politics makes for strange bedfellows.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:45:46am

re: #419 InfidelOfFreedom

In case there was ever any doubt about how Fox News does its hiring… I used to date a guy who was a local reporter in Tennessee. One of his fellow reporters had also modeled and knew a lot of other women who did modeling for Maxim and other magazines. She told him one day that one of her friends had met Roger Ailes at a party. Ailes hired her on the spot for Fox News. This woman had 0 experience in journalism/news anchoring, but did that matter? HELL NO. She could employ her vast journalistic experience holding up signs at wrestling matches and posing in Maxim.

The ex decided shortly after that maybe TV news wasn’t all he thought it would be.

That doesn’t surprise me at all. Ailes wants eye candy who sound like Rush Limbaugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:46:11am

LOL!

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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:46:52am

re: #416 Jay C

I agree: I’ve been wondering, regardless of what happens with the Presidency and the Senate, if the House Republicans in the 115th Congress aren’t going to [a least try to] stage some sort of internal coup to replace Ryan with a “true conservative” Speaker - i.e., a firebreathing Teabagger true-believer - who will make it his Mission to make absolutely sure that the House Of Representatives is even more ideologically radical, more obstructionist, more unproductive and more hostile to a (presumed) Clinton Administration than any of their predecessors were to President Obama. Paul Ryan is, of course, Teh Suck, and a second-rate Speaker at best, BUT… Speaker Steve King, anyone?

Back when Boehner was getting out we kicked around some “speaker” ideas and I came up with this Photoshop image. You never know…Louie might be the man!

Gohmert House Speakers - Model 2015 System
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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:47:54am

re: #418 I Would Prefer Not To

and brains.

Sorry. They are in short supply these days.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:49:43am
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b_sharp  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:50:57am

re: #418 I Would Prefer Not To

and brains.

Zombies?

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Bubblehead II  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:51:42am
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ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:51:47am

Thanks for the comment on approaching storms Sleuth. Looks like a line headed toward Columbus too. Moar humidity. Yay!

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:51:55am

re: #427 HappyWarrior

That doesn’t surprise me at all. Ailes wants eye candy who sound like Rush Limbaugh.

Yes, and to be clear, I don’t blame the woman for taking the job. Most people probably would take a job at a huge news org like Fox. But Ailes (like Trump) thinks women are decorative status symbols and it’s best for them if the woman is dependent on a guy like Ailes for their career. I doubt that Gretchen is the only one who experienced this treatment, she may just be the most “respectable” victim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:51:58am
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gocart mozart  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:52:11am

re: #413 bratwurst

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:52:54am

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump fought to prevent competition to his casinos, all while he ended up with … 3 in AC: Castle, Taj Majal, and Plaza. All three have gone bankrupt in the past or face uncertain futures.

He didn’t want any competition to his casino enterprises, which is why he fought to keep the Ramapough Indians from being recognized for casino purposes (which would have enabled them to build a casino closer to NYC than AC or even Foxwoods/Mohegan Sun or Catskills). He fought against Catskill casinos for the same reason. He didn’t want to see competition.

All the while, he did everything possible to maximize his profits while screwing everyone else. He did that in bankruptcy multiple times with the casino operations. And he screws vendors regularly, even when they do the job contemplated per contracts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:53:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:53:41am
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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:53:56am
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sagehen  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:54:42am

re: #435 InfidelOfFreedom

Yes, and to be clear, I don’t blame the woman for taking the job. Most people probably would take a job at a huge news org like Fox. But Ailes (like Trump) thinks women are decorative status symbols and it’s best for them if the woman is dependent on a guy like Ailes for their career. I doubt that Gretchen is the only one who experienced this treatment, she may just be the most “respectable” victim.

Is it worth asking all the other on-air female talent whether they’ve slept with Ailes?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:54:50am

YUUUGE lines…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:55:14am

re: #441 lawhawk

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Zucker comes through again.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:56:05am

re: #439 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yup. Many small contractors who know exactly about the big asshole company who doesn’t pay the final bill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:56:37am

hahahahaaaaaa “BIG NEWS!!!!!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:57:39am

Trumporrhoids claiming that contractors didn’t get paid because they did “lousy work”

If that’s the case then make them do the job over, don’t let it stand.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 9:59:16am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:01:01am

BTW hourly workers still have to be paid even if they do “lousy work” and paid again to do the job over, but the contractor has to take the hit.

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Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:01:03am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I want to start a GoFundMe or a moveon.org Petition to get Keith Olbmermann off MobyPicture.

There really is no reason to use anything but the built in twitter picture host/functionality.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:01:52am

re: #442 sagehen

Is it worth asking all the other on-air female talent whether they’ve slept with Ailes?

I’d rather ask how many have been propositioned by him. Don’t need to know the outcome, but I like to think most women have better ways to spend their time.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:03:54am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

BTW hourly workers still have to be paid even if they do “lousy work” and paid again to do the job over, but the contractor has to take the hit.

How could his contractors do lousy work? He hires the best people! Believe him!

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Skip Intro  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:05:09am

re: #452 InfidelOfFreedom

How could his contractors do lousy work? He hires the best people! Believe him!

‘Tis a puzzle, that one.

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sagehen  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:05:20am

re: #451 InfidelOfFreedom

I’d rather ask how many have been propositioned by him. Don’t need to know the outcome, but I like to think most women have better ways to spend their time.

I’d also want to ask all the women who used to work at Fox but don’t anymore.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:05:36am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

Convention speaker schedule to be released tomorrow. Let today be devoted to Crooked Hillary and the rigged system under which we live.
— Donald J. Trump

What does this even mean, in the Trumpian sense? Sounds like’s borrowing Bernie rhetoric. If the system is indeed “rigged” hasn’t Trump pretty much benefited from that?

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:06:13am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

BTW hourly workers still have to be paid even if they do “lousy work” and paid again to do the job over, but the contractor has to take the hit.

Trump used lawsuits and withholding payment to extract favorable terms even from law firms that he contracted with to sue/defend against suits. Even when these businesses did a good job, he’d withhold payments to try and force better terms.

Everyone in the construction business knew what he did - but they needed work, so they put up with his shenanigans. But not every business could afford to fight back, because more than a few went out of business…

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:06:36am

re: #12 Stanley Sea

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:06:59am

re: #455 Sir John Barron

What does this even mean, in the Trumpian sense? Sounds like’s borrowing Bernie rhetoric. If the system is indeed “rigged” hasn’t Trump pretty much benefited from that?

Trump is trying to lure the berners.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:07:01am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

YUUUGE lines…

Lawn chairs.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:07:21am

So, if Trump wants to talk about the rigged system, he ought to do more to fix the system that enabled him to welsh on his obligations under contracts his businesses signed all because he felt like not paying what was due.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:07:30am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, what a diverse crowd!

/

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:08:54am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:09:22am

re: #433 Bubblehead II

Bankrupties are great. Saddam Hussein was great—killed lots of terrorists! George W Bush blew it on 911.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:09:39am
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:10:31am

re: #454 sagehen

I’d also want to ask all the women who used to work at Fox but don’t anymore.

Yes that would be very interesting. That gets me wondering if Ailes also shares Trump’s affinity for non-disclosure agreements.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:10:31am

Guys, Gretchen Carlson files lawsuit against Fox right when Hillary exposed on email scandal! Steals attention!!! Wake up sheeple!!!!1111

/

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Teukka  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:11:45am

re: #466 Sir John Barron

Guys, Gretchen Carlson files lawsuit against Fox right when Hillary exposed on email scandal! Steals attention!!! Wake up sheeple!!!!1111

/

Every now and then, I get this urge to create an elaborate persona and other infrastructure to pass myself off as Illuminati…

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:11:53am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

BTW hourly workers still have to be paid even if they do “lousy work” and paid again to do the job over, but the contractor has to take the hit.

One big unpaid bill & your company is toast.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:13:13am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

Friend of mine was an electrical contractor for around 20 years. Finally quit when he got fed up with people constantly trying to get out of paying him (or outright refusing to) despite the written contracts they had signed and agreed to. Of course he could (and did in some cases) go after them in court but spending money and time on lawyers and court dates means less time available to actually do his job.

Now he has a salaried position and, while he misses some of the freedoms of his contractor job, he appreciates being paid promptly every two weeks.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:14:19am

So, Cruz is in negotiations to land a speaking spot at the GOP convention. So much for the ill-will against Trump for the nonsensical claims about Cruz’s family and Oswald.

The party of extremists is extreme, and due in no small part to cognitive dissonance.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:15:04am

re: #468 Stanley Sea

One big unpaid bill & your company is toast.

And then maybe the supplier for your company’s materials doesn’t get paid, and their employees are hurt… It’s the economic multiplier effect in reverse.

472
Belafon  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:15:18am

re: #470 lawhawk

So, Cruz is in negotiations to land a speaking spot at the GOP convention. So much for the ill-will against Trump for the nonsensical claims about Cruz’s family and Oswald.

The party of extremists is extreme, and due in no small part to cognitive dissonance.

They’re all lining up for their 2020 job interview.

473
Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:18:18am

re: #470 lawhawk

So, Cruz is in negotiations to land a speaking spot at the GOP convention. So much for the ill-will against Trump for the nonsensical claims about Cruz’s family and Oswald.

The party of extremists is extreme, and due in no small part to cognitive dissonance.

Trump’s got em all begging. Degrading.

474
lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:18:20am

re: #472 Belafon

Starting to wonder if Trump will be rebuffed by all the so-called VP contenders, leaving him with no one but Palin and Newt to choose from, and he picks Palin…

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Brian J.  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:18:34am

re: #472 Belafon

They’re all lining up for their 2020 job interview.

Or in Cruz’ case, 2018. Texas is looking a bit close, the Democrats may finally be something of a threat, and Cruz is gonna need resources to hold off a 2018 campaign from a Democrat (A Castro brother? Sylvester Turner? Not Wendy Davis, please).

476
Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:19:26am
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:20:11am

re: #476 Jenner7

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“You can’t quit, I haven’t fired you yet!”

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:20:18am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

Friend of mine was an electrical contractor for around 20 years. Finally quit when he got fed up with people constantly trying to get out of paying him (or outright refusing to) despite the written contracts they had signed and agreed to. Of course he could (and did in some cases) go after them in court but spending money and time on lawyers and court dates means less time available to actually do his job.

Now he has a salaried position and, while he misses some of the freedoms of his contractor job, he appreciates being paid promptly every two weeks.

OK, here’s my contractor not paying story of the day.

Some company’s hold a 10% retention for a month after you complete the job & bill them.

I’m calling this company in Portland, where’s my 10% retention? Total scam: oh, we faxed the final paperwork to you. (FAX? WTF. Also the fax # she listed isn’t even ours- we have some web fax that I never even see) Oh OK, I’ll email it to you. But you must return the signed release IN BLUE INK & BY SNAIL MAIL.

I don’t even have a business envelope, so I put it in one of my thank-you card’s small envelopes with a fucking Janis Joplin stamp.

They do this just to delay payment. And they suck.

479
sagehen  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:21:12am

re: #465 InfidelOfFreedom

Yes that would be very interesting. That gets me wondering if Ailes also shares Trump’s affinity for non-disclosure agreements.

There’s been longtime rumors about why Paula Zahn and Elizabeth Hasselbeck left their employ rather suddenly.

480
lizardofid  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:25:58am

re: #478 Stanley Sea

OK, here’s my contractor not paying story of the day.

Some company’s hold a 10% retention for a month after you complete the job & bill them.

I’m calling this company in Portland, where’s my 10% retention? Total scam: oh, we faxed the final paperwork to you. (FAX? WTF. Also the fax # she listed isn’t even ours- we have some web fax that I never even see) Oh OK, I’ll email it to you. But you must return the signed release IN BLUE INK & BY SNAIL MAIL.

I don’t even have a business envelope, so I put it in one of my thank-you card’s small envelopes with a fucking Janis Joplin stamp.

They do this just to delay payment. And they suck.

I feel ya. I have found that type of behavior tends to be slightly inflationary on future work/goods. ; )

481
Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:26:47am

re: #480 lizardofid

I feel ya. I have found that type of behavior tends to be slightly inflationary on future work/goods. ; )

No shit.

I call it the PITA fee.

482
lizardofid  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:29:24am

re: #481 Stanley Sea

No shit.

I call it the PITA fee.

The true invisible hand.

(Apologies to Mr. Smith)

483
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:30:52am
484
Bubblehead II  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:34:08am

Donald Trump’s Atlantic City gamble | The Briefing

Donald Trump’s Atlantic City gamble | The Briefing

485
ObserverArt  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:35:16am

Gotta get busy with a logo design…but I wanted to make a point about discussing Trump. We all know he is full of shit and we all know that many times he says stuff that is easy to prove wrong or in short time will be proven wrong. And that matters to us because we (LGF) have our heads on straight.

But it is sometimes completely worthless to wonder why the people that are attracted to Trump don’t see Trump in the same way as we do. Why? Because they do not want to see the truth. They want to see Trump in how they make him out to be. They want a guy that is going to ‘kick some ass’ and the truth isn’t needed for that. A big bellowing mouth is perfect.

They want a guy that is not politically correct because they are not politically correct. They want to be cavemen and liberals prevent that. Liberals make them think and face themselves and they sure aren’t going to look inside when the whole world is the problem…it isn’t them.

This whole campaign is a complete suspension of reality. It really is FOX News’ work over the last 20 plus years. They have managed to make facts irrelevant to everything. It has even invaded the progressive side of things with Bernie and his fans.

I don’t know about you, but I am real scared of a world where the truth is no longer needed or really accepted. I don’t even know if the Aldous Huxleys and George Orwells of this world thought it would really come to this. They wrote to warn. I don’t think they would accept they were writing totally to predict. But predict they just may have.

So toss out facts, reason, logic and all other knowns. We need some other tools to discuss this mess. Reality has no place in these discussions other than to recognize reality has no place.

My head hurts. Later!

486
SoundGuy 2016  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:36:02am

I own a contracting business and exactly two people have screwed me. One was for less than $400 years ago. She just bought a property in a development I have exclusivity with the builder/developers.

That $400 lost will be worth it to decline her.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:36:05am
488
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:37:52am

He believes in putting on his oxygen mask first, strapping on his parachute and jumping out while everyone else on the plane goes down screaming.

Great analogy, Trumporrhoids!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:38:06am

re: #484 Bubblehead II

Donald Trump’s Atlantic City gamble | The Briefing

[Embedded content]

Video

The 2nd one on his taxes = brutal.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:41:00am

re: #488 The Vicious Babushka

Trump spokeswoman on CNN answering HRC charge of selfishness: “Mr. Trump believes in putting your oxygen mask on 1st before helping others.”
— John Harwood

Should go over well with the RWNJ base.

491
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:42:59am

jeebus…

freaking sore loser needs to go home.

492
BlueSpotinAL  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:43:01am

re: #310 Sir John Barron

Now Walker should be made to tag along with DT on the campaign trail to properly demonstrate his obeisance.

“Scooter, go get me some donuts! There is always some missing when I send Big Boy out for them.”

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:43:16am

What’s even worse, the client was a psychologist. The fallacy she used on me arguing over the invoice sort of took me aback. I held firm and didn’t accept an invoice 50% of what it was worth.

But still, you’d think a psychologist wouldn’t be dropping BS on you like that.

494
Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:44:29am

Gasp?

495
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:44:55am
496
lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:45:38am

A boil on a taint on pond scum? Really? That’s what the world gets because your self-absorbed dumbassery needs an outlet (and to piss on everyone who doesn’t think like you)?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:46:31am

re: #494 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Gasp?

Hillz brought in $68.5 million in June.

Donald is a LOSER!!!!!!!!

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:46:33am

re: #496 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

A boil on a taint on pond scum? Really? That’s what the world gets because your self-absorbed dumbassery needs an outlet (and to piss on everyone who doesn’t think like you)?

I like how he implicitly interprets his existence as a form of punishment for the rest of us.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:47:54am

re: #494 Jenner7

Putting that into perspective, that’s less than half what Mitt took in for same period in 2012.

Money translates into ground game and ad buys, and this only shows he’s not able to do either as effectively as in 2012.

But it also shows that some in the GOP are more than willing to throw money at Trump. And watch it burn (was left unsaid).

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Timothy Watson  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:48:06am

re: #494 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Gasp?

Does that include the loans he allegedly forgave?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:48:23am
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Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:48:45am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought it was pretty clever. The bill would allow for companies to use QR codes for GMO labeling. He put his response to that bill in a QR code. It links to here.

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lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:50:29am

Trump as Immortan Joe? /

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:51:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:51:40am
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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:52:14am

How much of that campaign donation influx goes to Trump and his family?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:52:27am

re: #504 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

My surprise, etc.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:53:26am

re: #496 lawhawk

Dear Left: when you spend years writing off alternative views as “harassment” and “trolling,” you get me, Trump and the alt right. THANK YOU
— Milo Yiannopoulos ひ✘ (@Nero)

Is there an English version of this Tweet?

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Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:54:25am

re: #508 Sir John Barron

Is there an English version of this Tweet?

No, just his native language: asshole

510
Lidane  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:55:00am

Just in case you know anyone who was saying they were voting for Gary Johnson:

I’m already seeing my “libertarian” friends saying they’re going to vote Trump after all because of this. You know, because they’re principled. ////////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:55:17am

I’m guessing HA has no friends or family who care to intervene…

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Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:56:37am

re: #511 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m guessing HA has no friends or family who care to intervene…

[Embedded content]

I can’t wait for the movie to come out.

HA GOODMAN: Screaming into the Void

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:57:11am

re: #499 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Putting that into perspective, that’s less than half what Mitt took in for same period in 2012.

Money translates into ground game and ad buys, and this only shows he’s not able to do either as effectively as in 2012.

But it also shows that some in the GOP are more than willing to throw money at Trump. And watch it burn (was left unsaid).

Also, he was WAY behind in cash on hand going into the month by a huge margin, so he started way back to begin with.

RBS

514
Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:57:12am

re: #511 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m guessing HA has no friends or family who care to intervene…

Well, Bernie is still here. He’s still on planet earth. Can’t dispute that.

Still able to win? Win what?

And Clinton emails….yesterday’s news already being buried by HRC speech in AC, Gretchen Carlson, police shooting in Louisiana.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:58:36am

re: #503 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Trump as Immortan Joe? /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:58:47am

doubling down…

517
Lidane  Jul 6, 2016 • 10:59:06am

re: #514 Sir John Barron

And Clinton emails….yesterday’s news already being buried by HRC speech in AC, Gretchen Carlson.

Also by Trump praising Saddam Hussein.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:00:27am

re: #510 Lidane

Just in case you know anyone who was saying they were voting for Gary Johnson:

[Embedded content]

I’m already seeing my “libertarian” friends saying they’re going to vote Trump after all because of this. You know, because they’re principled. ////////

Kudos to Johnson, because this was a golden opportunity for him to blast Clinton and argue neither her or Trump can be trusted with the presidency. Its like he’s not willing to sell his soul for the Oval Office.

519
lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:01:16am

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paladino, who previously ran for NYS Governor and lost, is a thorn in the side of Buffalo area politics. Bugnuts doesn’t begin to describe the guy.

520
Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:01:44am

re: #519 lawhawk

Paladino, who previously ran for NYS Governor and lost, is a thorn in the side of Buffalo area politics. Bugnuts doesn’t begin to describe the guy.

Oh, so he’s perfect as Trump’s VP.

/

521
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:01:58am
522
InfidelOfFreedom  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:02:18am

Note to potential “Mexicans for Trump”… I’d ask to be paid in advance.

523
Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:02:50am

re: #518 Big Beautiful Door

Kudos to Johnson, because this was a golden opportunity for him to blast Clinton and argue neither her or Trump can be trusted with the presidency. Its like he’s not willing to sell his soul for the Oval Office.

Or more skeptically, he recognizes that it wouldn’t really help.

Might be principled, might just be grounded in reality.

524
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:03:01am

re: #261 Belafon

Don’t apologize - there are a lot of sympathetic ears here.

525
Reality Based Steve  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:03:26am

re: #522 InfidelOfFreedom

Note to potential “Mexicans for Trump”… I’d ask to be paid in advance.

[Embedded content]

And you have the wear the sombrero and have a big thick mustache or you don’t get the full amount.

RBS

526
Dr Lizardo  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:04:52am

re: #521 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From the Wonkette article……

According to the suit, Ailes told Carlson all her problems at Fox wouldn’t exist if only she would make sex to him, which, we must emphasize, involves making human contact with Roger Ailes’s naked body and genital accoutrements. When Carlson brought her problems to Ailes’s attention, here is what he reportedly said:
Read more at wonkette.com

LOLOL I love the writing at Wonkette.

527
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:05:05am

re: #519 lawhawk

re: #520 Sir John Barron

Jackie O’Bannon?

528
Lidane  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:05:54am

*facepalm*

529
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:06:02am

re: #525 Reality Based Steve

And you have the wear the sombrero and have a big thick mustache or you don’t get the full amount.

RBS

“Full amount”? He’s gonna make you pay for it!

530
Franklin  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:08:01am

re: #528 Lidane

*facepalm*

Embedded Image

Dig up stupid!

“How are we gonna get out of here?” - Otto
“We’ll dig our way out!” - Homer Simpson
“No, no, dig up, stupid.” - Chief Wiggum

531
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:08:47am

Joni says Donald should choose Pence.

532
Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:09:46am

re: #531 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Joni says Donald should choose Pence.

Wow, I thought it would be Joni.

533
Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:09:48am

re: #531 Backwoods_Sleuth

Joni says Donald should choose Pence.

Oh noes, no Joni!!!1

534
danarchy  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:10:09am

re: #502 Franklin

I thought it was pretty clever. The bill would allow for companies to use QR codes for GMO labeling. He put his response to that bill in a QR code. It links to here.

I thought it was pretty clever as well. I also think the idea of labeling GMO stuff at all is stupid so I have no problem with it being in QR code. Without GM in about 25 years we would literally be unable to feed the worlds population. Also the only difference between GM and hybridization is basically speed and we have been using hybridization techniques since we first became agricultural societies.

535
Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:10:12am

please be newt
please be newt
please be newt

536
Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:10:59am

re: #531 Backwoods_Sleuth

Convention is less than 2 weeks away too. Hahaha.

537
Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:11:17am

re: #531 Backwoods_Sleuth

Joni says Donald should choose Pence.

And from what I recall, Pence is not exactly the sharpest pencil in the box.

538
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:11:34am
539
Big Beautiful Door  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:11:44am

re: #532 Stanley Sea

Wow, I thought it would be Joni.

That would be pandering; only a white man is qualified to be Trump’s VP./

540
Reality Based Steve  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:11:48am

re: #531 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Joni says Donald should choose Pence.

I’ll bet my entire upcoming Mega-Millions winnings that it will be The Newt.

RBS

541
Sir John Barron  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:12:05am

re: #538 The Vicious Babushka

No, that’s not how this works.

542
HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:12:29am

re: #528 Lidane

*facepalm*

[Embedded content]

Embedded Image

Nope he wasn’t Katrina, nice try though.

543
Jenner7  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:12:52am

What if he picked his daughter? Can he even do that?

544
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:13:10am

re: #276 Belafon

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Testy Toad T  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:13:46am

re: #540 Reality Based Steve

I’ll bet my entire upcoming Mega-Millions winnings that it will be The Newt.

RBS

He’s a big dumb blowhard, but he’s a little smaller than Trump, a little quieter, a little less openly racist. He reinforces just how bigly Donald is, how he has all of the best words, how he’s winnar.

It almost has to be Gingrich. It reinforces Trump’s image and brand, which is the sine qua non of everything Trump does. It really can’t be anybody else except maybe Christie, who similarly ticks boxes.

546
HappyWarrior  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:13:52am

re: #543 Jenner7

What if he picked his daughter? Can he even do that?

He could technically yes.

547
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:14:10am

*FACEPALM*

548
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:14:13am
549
nines09  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:14:20am

re: #538 The Vicious Babushka

Paging Trump Klone……Trump Klone…….Pickup on line…..3…..

550
lizardofid  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:15:55am

re: #543 Jenner7

What if he picked his daughter? Can he even do that?

Is she 35 yo?

551
Big Beautiful Door  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:16:27am

re: #526 Dr Lizardo

From the Wonkette article……

LOLOL I love the writing at Wonkette.

Roger, Roger, its easy to find gorgeous women on the internet who will pretend to find you smokin hot for an hour if you pay them enough, and totally won’t puke their guts out until after you’re gone. Or maybe Melania could set you up with a relative desperate to get out of Slovakia.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:16:37am

re: #543 Jenner7

What if he picked his daughter? Can he even do that?

The only requirement is that the Pres or veep candidate be 35—by Inauguration day, not now—and a “natural-born” citizen. So yeah, he could do it. Unqualified? Pfft! Who’s more unqualified than him? (Or Reagan.)

553
lawhawk  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:16:38am

re: #535 Testy Toad T

please be newt
please be newt
please be newt

You just invoked the Betelgeuse rule. So it was said. So shall it be done! *clap* *clap*

554
Big Beautiful Door  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:17:04am

re: #543 Jenner7

What if he picked his daughter? Can he even do that?

Not if they are both residents of New York.

555
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:20:27am

re: #554 Big Beautiful Door

Not if they are both residents of New York.

That just prevents them from receiving New York’s Electoral votes—which they weren’t going to get anyway.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:22:19am

re: #547 The Vicious Babushka

*FACEPALM*

[Embedded content]

He still doesn’t comment on the horrid images in her piece.

Because he can’t.

dayum.

557
Le Lapin Tueur  Jul 6, 2016 • 11:28:31am

re: #502 Franklin

I thought it was pretty clever. The bill would allow for companies to use QR codes for GMO labeling. He put his response to that bill in a QR code. It links to here.

“The American people have a right to know what they’re eating,” Sanders said during a press conference on Capitol Hill. “That is why states like Vermont, Maine, Connecticut and Alaska have adopted laws to label goods containing GMOs and why many other states are interested and on the path to do that.”

The problem with adopting a labeling standard such as this is that such a law would be inherently biased against foods that have been genetically modified using modern gene splicing techniques. And, it would also be read as a warning label.

There is no food that has not been genetically manipulated from the most basic grain to those exotic fruits such as limes.

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Nyet  Jul 6, 2016 • 2:11:04pm

re: #137 freetoken

Surprisingly little comes up when googling “Linda Bumpass” - only 956 results, and many of them may not be for the person about which you write.

Her Facebook page is very sparse, at least the publicly viewable portion.

Of course we were not discussing Linda Bumpass in the first place, but whatever.


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The Shaolin Afronauts - Winds Across Gayanamede (Live at Adelaide Festival Centre) Recorded 21 January 2012 at Adelaide Festival Centre, Adelaide, Australia. Winds Across Gayanamede is taken from the second album from The Shaolin Afronauts; Quest Under Capricorn. The album drops 16 July on vinyl, CD and digital download via Freestyle ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210404Did you spend all week thinking about solar power and pumps? We didn't either.A week of flawless electrics and hydraulics.The first few days we went out to check on it like hourly.Now we don't even think about itThe proof of ...
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Springsteen - “Prove It All Night” Live at Cleveland Agora, 1978This is so perfect.
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Foster the People - Lamb’s Wool (Official Music Video) Official animated music video for Foster The People's single 'Lamb's Wool' off of their most recent EP 'In The Darkest Of Nights, Let The Birds Sing'. Listen to 'Lamb's Wool' here: stem.ffm.to Listen to 'Lamb's Wool (with Poolside)' here: ...
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Talk Talk - It’s My Life (Live at Montreux 1986) Live at Montreux 1986 is a concert video release by the British synth pop band Talk Talk of a concert at 1986 Montreux Jazz Festival in Switzerland. The show was part of a tour that started in April 1986 ...
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KALEO - Skinny [OFFICIAL LYRIC VIDEO] Music and Lyrics by JJ Julius SonNew song “Skinny" available now: kaleo.lnk.toFrom the upcoming album Surface Sounds out 4/23: kaleo.lnk.to What makes you feel good?What makes you angry inside? Why don’t you love me?You want to fuck me or ...
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Hania Rani - Live From Studio S2 Listen to 'Live from Studio S2': hania-rani.lnk.to The full live set video was premiered on the evening before the annual Piano Day worldwide celebrations (March 29th). The motivation to make the recording of the live performances which became the ...
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