Lives Matter Not

Gun violence and the toll on cops, minorities, and society
Opinion • Views: 52,287

What else is left to say on a day like this? Plenty. Cops were murdered just as surely as black men were murdered by cops. You can protest and demand justice in both without being cynical or hypocritical.

Justice. Only justice shall thou pursue.

Cops do dangerous work, and they fall in the line of duty every year. It also happens that far fewer have died in the line of duty in recent years than during the 1970s-1990s. Less crime has something to do with it, as does tactics and training. Events in Texas were the deadliest day for law enforcement since 9/11. Who, what, and why are still unknown here, but it wont stop people from speculating as to why.

Cops also engage in racial profiling and some take those behaviors to extremes that lead to excessive force and deadly force use against suspects, or just folks pulled over for a broken taillight - or no particular reason at all, and are gunned down. That’s a gross miscarriage of justice that requires a holistic approach to fixing because it means not only better training for cops, but rolling back profiling, addressing the way cops investigate themselves, how prosecutors wink and nod in favor of law enforcement, and how even juries are reluctant to return verdicts against cops. The deck is stacked against justice when a black person is killed by a cop for no reason - even when there’s video of the incident.

The Founders would weep over the state of the nation. The cultural/political failures to address gun violence would shock them to the core, as would the fallout from the 2A, which was written for a completely different era to address completely different failings of governments at the time.

They would weep over the cultural rot of the GOP and their know-nothing anti-science rheotric that leads the GOP down a dark path.

I think they’d be horrified at the NRA, and their inability to see the extremism that they instill.

I think they’d scratch their heads over the open carry nonsense, especially since Americans are generally less likely to be victims of crime than ever, and that your chances of being shot go up the more you are in contact with guns (self-inflicted, accidental, domestic violence, etc).

The events of the past 48 hours should shock the conscience, but it won’t change a damn thing. That’s the most infuriating thing of all.

Cops were killed in Dallas and have been killed elsewhere, and it didn’t spur changes in the gun laws.

Rep. Gabby Giffords was nearly assassinated. No change.

Columbine. VA Tech. Binghamton. Arby’s. Sandy Hook. Everywhere you look, mass shootings, spree killings, serial killings, and the random everyday gun violence isn’t sufficient to force change. The GOP/NRA feels it too soon to act, but when is the right time to act? For the GOP/NRA, it is never. They let the butcher’s bill grow through their obstructionism/absolutist positions.

Reagan was nearly assassinated, and for a brief moment, gun laws were changed, but the pushback has been even stronger - with the NRA moving to an absolutist position.

It is past time to act, and the proposed changes to gun laws individually won’t prevent this incident or that incident, but it could reduce future shootings. As a whole, the gun laws need to be strengthened, and the AWB should be restored, because there are just some kinds of guns that don’t belong in hands of civilians. They serve no purpose other than to kill people.

Other nations have banned guns and imposed strict gun control and don’t have nearly the per capita firearms violence we have here in the US. I’m talking about OECD countries - peer nations. I’m talking Japan. I’m talking Australia. I’m talking Germany and France and Israel.

It doesn’t prevent all mass shootings or terrorism, but none of those countries has the level of gun violence on a daily basis as we have here.

That gun violence has a cost - in law enforcement, in criminal justice/incarceration, and in health care costs. That’s a societal burden that is unsustainable.

And it’s heartbreaking for anyone directly touched by the gun violence.

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97 comments

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:35:15am

Thanks to Lawhawk who wrote it and whoever promoted it from pages. Already shared it out and it needs to be shared more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:36:57am

And, of course, there’s always at least one downdinging asshat…

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Kragar  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:39:26am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

And, of course, there’s always at least one downdinging asshat…

Assholes everywhere.

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Nyet  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:40:20am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

And, of course, there’s always at least one downdinging asshat…

He’s already been on notice…

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Dr. Matt  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:40:30am

This needs to be said more often:

“People respond in accordance to how you relate to them. If you approach them on the basis of violence, that’s how they’ll react. But if you say, ‘We want peace, we want stability,’ we can then do a lot of things that will contribute towards the progress of our society.”
—Nelson Mandela

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iossarian  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:41:16am

re: #5 Dr. Matt

America. Where people want peace, stability, and lots and lots of guns.

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Tigger2  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:41:43am

re: #4 Nyet

He’s already been on notice…

I have never seen a comment from that person.

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Franklin  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:41:52am
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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:41:59am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

And, of course, there’s always at least one downdinging asshat…

Oh, look. Here’s his or her most recent comment.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:42:08am

humans

what is the matter with us?

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Jayleia  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:42:28am

re: #7 Tigger2

You’ve missed nothing of note.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:42:57am

Thanks for the promotion. Since I wrote it, there’s been some new information about the shooter, including his name and some bits about his background.

It frankly doesn’t change anything I wrote.

The violence against the cops was uncalled for and should shock the conscience just as surely as any time a cop kills someone in their custody - particularly when they’re unarmed or when they’re attempting to comply with police or when they’ve done nothing wrong except driving while black.

You can protest to improve policing all while respecting the work that the police do. After all, the police are the ones who rush into dangerous situations to keep others safe. But police also have to be held to a higher standard and they have to rid themselves of the bad apples who give others a bad name.

In NYC, we know that there’s a small percentage of cops who perpetrate the great number of excessive force complaints. Most NYPD officers aren’t ever implicated, but some are implicated over and over and over again. It’s these cops that have to be removed from the force, retrained, or otherwise constrained to desk duty because they put others in harms’ way.

And if NYPD has this issue, you can be sure that every other department has similar issues. Some are more open about the problems and what they’re doing about it than others, but it’s all there.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:44:25am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

And, of course, there’s always at least one downdinging asshat…

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Tigger2  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:44:39am

re: #9 wrenchwench

Oh, look. Here’s his or her most recent comment.

No wonder, they must have been hidden by downdings.

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Franklin  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:46:11am

re: #9 wrenchwench

Oh, look. Here’s his or her most recent comment.

Wow, reg’d since Dec 2012 and 50% of downdings are on just that one post.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:47:47am

re: #15 Franklin

Wow, reg’d since Dec 2012 and 50% of downdings are on just that one post.

Feelings are running high lately, among those who have them.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:47:49am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:50:12am

Bravo!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:51:47am
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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:52:28am

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

Jr. managed to get himself registered to vote in November? /

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:52:33am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

newt is cucking

face it, nobody can be trump’s vice president

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:52:55am

The dead did not die in vain. Smith & Wesson stock is way up today!/////

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piratedan  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:53:21am

re: #21 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

he’ll outsource the VP to Bangladesh and refuse to pay them, everyone wins!

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:53:35am

re: #21 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Ivanka’s stock is looking up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:53:50am

EXCELLENT PIECE LAWHAWK! Belongs in a magazine somewhere, seriously.

I will be writing a similar page as soon as I have time.

We as a society NEED to have this conversation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:54:17am

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

My surprise, etc, etc.

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:54:50am

Posted this on the dead thread (as per my usual), but believe it’s worth a repeat.

But, for today, anyway, I am going to make the unremarkable point that none of these people, not the two victims of police violence nor the five victims of Thursday night, need to be dead right now. Their deaths served no purpose. Ennobling them in public grief doesn’t make those deaths any less unnecessary. There is too much useless death in this country, too much pointless martyrdom. That is the lesson of this awful week. That is the only lesson worth listening to in the days ahead.


esquire.com

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:57:06am

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

Make him say something funny, Jr.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:57:13am

And right on queue, the asshole releases.

Facebook Post

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:57:15am
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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:58:14am

re: #20 lawhawk

Jr. managed to get himself registered to vote in November? /

That was my first thought—which of the Trump kids couldn’t vote—Ivanka and who? (Because you had to vote in the primary to be a delegate—also, at least here, you had to attend the county and state conventions, which I doubt any of the Trump children did.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2016 • 11:59:07am

re: #29 Dave In Austin

And then they wonder how shit starts like this in the first place.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:01:06pm
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Testy Toad T  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:01:19pm

re: #29 Dave In Austin

And right on queue, the asshole releases.

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Gunfuckers have been beating off to dreams of race war for decades.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:02:08pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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He’s the “poor kids work as janitors in their schools” guy, right?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:02:50pm

re: #35 withak

Yep. He’s also so the many other shitty things guy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:02:59pm

re: #20 lawhawk

Jr. managed to get himself registered to vote in November? /

Ivanka and Eric didn’t register in time, but Donald Jr. did.

I am so sick of this family. They want to be like the Kennedys, but just with all the money and none of the public service.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:03:49pm

Teh Rage Furby is still obsessing over Gawker:

Open Letter To Gawker’s Nick Denton: It’s Time To Hear From Your Victims
Dozens, maybe hundreds, of people like Jardin have been victimized by Gawker’s bullying style of journalism. I don’t presume that they all share the same POV about Gawker and its troubles but I’d really like to hear what they have to say. Wouldn’t you?

This is why I recently offered to drop all of my lawsuits against Gawker and its staff if Nick Denton agrees to publish a 1000 words from at least 10 Gawker’s victims about Gawker on gawker.com.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:04:28pm

re: #29 Dave In Austin

And right on queue, the asshole releases.

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Freepers pick up the ball:
White House Petition: Formally recognize Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization.

….and run with it:

The White House (now Mosque) is a terrorist organization.

Obama runs a terrorist organization, and
Americans demanded that the GOP recognize that,
or admit they too are terrorists.

In response the GOP funded ObamaTRADE and Iran nukes.

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Nyet  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:04:53pm

re: #37 The Vicious Babushka

Ivanka and Eric didn’t register in time, but Donald Jr. did.

I am so sick of this family. They want to be like the Kennedys, but just with all the money and none of the public service.

They look like a bunch of “aristocratic” inbreds from a horror B-movie.

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Franklin  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:05:29pm
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Tigger2  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:07:48pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:08:18pm

The New York Daily News reports that Trump on Friday morning called up the New York Police Department and asked if he could speak to officers at a 3 p.m. roll call at the NYPD Midtown North Precinct.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton, however, quickly nixed the idea.

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No Depression  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:09:54pm

re: #41 Franklin

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The Rolling Stones - You Can’t Always Get What You Want (lyrics)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:10:39pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart

In person? Couldn’t he just call in to the roll call?

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:10:44pm

Remember this guy from last year who shot up the Dallas Police headquarters (Daily Kos link)? Included in the picture is the armored van he used. Remind people of this white guy when they start talking about blacks hating police.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:10:48pm

re: #40 Nyet

They look like a bunch of “aristocratic” inbreds from a horror B-movie.

Twilight Zone 1964:

The Masks P2

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:11:19pm

re: #3 Kragar

Assholes everywhere.

And they have firearms.

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Kragar  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:11:41pm
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Timothy Watson  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:11:43pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart

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Bratton knows an asshole when he sees one, after all, he had to put with Giuliani for a couple years.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:13:35pm

re: #10 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

humans

what is the matter with us?

Stone Age instincts.

Iron Age culture.

Industrial Age weaponry.

Wait until nanotech and biotech get going. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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iossarian  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:13:39pm

Paul Ryan’s bullshit is basically like me saying I want to get a ripped six-pack and the way I’m going to get there is by eating all this ice cream and sitting on the couch.

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Franklin  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:13:41pm

Dear Black Boy

Great article by Martellus Bennett (NFL Tight End)

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:14:19pm

Deleted b/c source was a fake site. Missed the co after the .com. Should have tipped things off..

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:15:19pm

re: #49 Kragar

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I don’t believe that. Gun violence fuels gun sales, fueling donations to the NRA and the GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:15:38pm

re: #49 Kragar

Me to Ryan: Prove it or shut up!

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Franklin  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:15:39pm

re: #54 lawhawk

OFFS….

El Chapo escaped AGAIN.

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sorry for repost :) we could use some levity

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:16:27pm

re: #51 Romantic Heretic

Stone Age instincts.

Iron Age culture.

Industrial Age weaponry.

Wait until nanotech and biotech get going. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

You know the STTNG episode where Riker gets caught checking out the world where the race was about to develop warp technology? I would be like the woman who wanted to get off the planet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:16:37pm

re: #54 lawhawk

OFFS….

El Chapo escaped AGAIN.

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Mexican corruption FTW!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:17:54pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:18:18pm

I’m under no illusions that America has ever been totally harmonious. If anything we’re founded on a lot of violence and inhumanity to others and each other.

But what is happening now, can in part at least, be directly related back to a lack of community. We’ve become enamoured with this idea of the rough and tumble “self made” individual who made it on their own with no help. We live in communities where people live right next door to one another and don’t know the first thing about each other, let alone names. Many communities don’t even have sidewalks to make them walkable and more hospitable to neighborly conversations and walks and such. We’re standing idly by in many cases while our public commons (schools, parks, jails, utilities and other resources) are being sold off to the highest bidder under the guise of “saving taxpayer dollars”. Then these things go to shit and we find communities unable to provide even the most basic of services and government and lazy public sector workers being the scapegoats.

So many of us, myself included, live in places where we simply are not welcomed or in so many words told we do not belong because we are “different” or “weird”. And my family’s experience (we are white in mostly white suburbia) is mild compared to many. And so we see many sad, lonely, angry and fearful people doing things to knock back the pain of not belonging or even being outright hated as an Other just for BEING. Suicide rates are up, the numbers of people on anti-depressants, opiates and other drugs are at their highest since those drugs were made available, people seem overall miserable in a nation that sells itself as The Best Place to Live Ever. Why are we so angry, fearful and sad when we have so much?

I think it’s because there is a vested interest in keeping us afraid, fearful of each other and angry to the point of helpless. Look at guns and who owns them. The number of households with guns has declined, but the number of homes who have more than half a dozen weapons has skyrocketed. Every mass shooting brings a run to the local gun stores and gun shows while people spend their life savings on weapons they will never use for anything more than glorified cosplay.

I don’t know how to fight this anymore. I used to think being kind and friendly to people would help. But it really doesn’t. I’ve outed myself recently as a liberal. A liberal who opened up her home and fed a couple of dozen people and showed them love and a good time, even as they talked shit about minorities and people like me who believe in basic democratic principles. And not a one of them have thanked me for my hospitality or returned my calls this week. Because they are full of fear and arrogance that their way is the only way. My biggest hope is that none of their children get a hold of any of their stockpiled weapons and hurt themselves or someone else. I really hope I never hear that news.

I have watched this happen since the weeks after 9/11. Watched as the GA GOP stoked the fires of fear and hate to set neighbor against neighbor, family member against family member. All under the guise of God and Country. Liberals are a poison they said, they deserve to be hunted down and shot, thin the herd. But I’m the asshole here? Really? The compared Max Cleland to Osama Bin Laden and made panic and fear into a commodity to win elections.

I will NEVER forgive them for that. Why should I? They aren’t sorry they did it, in fact they’re proud of it and keep raising the stakes.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:18:26pm

re: #54 lawhawk

Clearly, “El Chapo” must mean “Harry Houdini”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:18:54pm

re: #58 Belafon

In the ST universe humanity went through a third world war that killed 600 million and destroyed most major governments before we finally got our shit together.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:19:40pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:20:07pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

And a loser I bet.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:21:52pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

It was John Barron, not Mr. Trump, who reached out to NYPD.

/

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:22:18pm

I got this from work:

President Barak Obama has ordered flags lowered through sunset on July 12 as decreed in his proclamation:

” As a mark of respect for the victims of the attack on police officers perpetrated on Thursday, July 7, 2016, in Dallas, Texas, by the authority vested in me as President of the United States by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby order that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff at the White House and upon all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions until sunset, July 12, 2016. I also direct that the flag shall be flown at half-staff for the same length of time at all United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations.”

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:22:58pm

re: #37 The Vicious Babushka

Ivanka and Eric didn’t register in time, but Donald Jr. did.

I am so sick of this family. They want to be like the Kennedys, but just with all the money and none of the public service.

Ah—here’s how he and Rudy got to be delegates:

Trump campaign reps lobbied city GOP bigwigs on Donald Jr.’s behalf. Trump’s other adult kids in the city, Eric and Ivanka, did not register as Republicans in time to be eligible.

Rudy Giuliani is also Cleveland-bound as a possible Manhattan delegate. The ex-mayor pitched himself to Malpass for the role, party sources said.

“I could see it being Donald Jr.,” said Manhattan GOP Chair Adele Malpass, who met county leaders Friday to pick delegates. “I think he could get the microphone and say, ‘From the great Empire State, I’m proud to announce all 95 delegates are going for Donald Trump.’ ”

nypost.com

All I can say is UGH.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:23:18pm
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b.d.  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:25:05pm

re: #54 lawhawk

OFFS….

El Chapo escaped AGAIN.

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That El Chapo story is from a fake site.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:25:27pm

re: #67 Belafon

We’re having to lower that flag way too fucking much lately…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:26:08pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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That denial is oddly specific. Seems like it’s hinging on the term “roll call.” Guessing they requested an opportunity to speak, the roll call was the first opportunity suggested by someone in the department, and then Bratton killed the deal.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:26:28pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

That’ll win him the NYC vote alright…

NYPD Commissioner Bratton v. Trump in telling truth? Bratton every time. No contest. There’s no reason he’d lie about that.

Trump on the other hand has every reason to lie he didn’t reach out to demand access to pontificate with a sea of Blue backdrop.

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:26:48pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart

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Good for Bratton for standing up to the yam.

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Robert O.  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:28:54pm

The NRA has been awfully quiet today. According to their logic, AR-15s, assault rifles, sniper rifles are all there to be used against tyrannical government. Bingo! Everything that has happened in the last 72 hours fit that narrative. Several black people just saw that a tyrannical government was killing their people in cold blood. They did exactly what the NRA said the Founding Fathers have intended. Will the NRA now hand out medals to the shooters?

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:31:39pm

re: #75 Robert O.

As I said in the previous thread, this shooting had everything the NRA said was needed to keep everyone safe - good guys with guns, victims with guns, open carry, non-gun-free zone - and people died. What are they going to argue next?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:31:47pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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Calling Bratton a liar.

smart move, Donald…

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:32:14pm

The GOP is thoroughly debased. If they can’t find a way to blame President Obama for this, they’ll surely attempt to blame Hillary for it.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:33:46pm

Alrighty, I’m going to go out into the heat and try to see if I can work on my garden a little, it’s a mess from a couple of storms this week. I’m turning up some Motorhead, Maiden, maybe some Tesla and Mr Big, and let the music seep into my head awhile.

Be excellent to one another, we have to stick together.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:34:54pm

re: #78 lawhawk

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The GOP is thoroughly debased. If they can’t find a way to blame President Obama for this, they’ll surely attempt to blame Hillary for it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:35:11pm
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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:36:20pm

Ugh. I need to do something other than despairing over the latest atrocities happening now.

Can we get a music thread soon? I keep meaning to upload some Umphreys since I have a recording of their debut of Higgins about 10 years or so ago, and I could use an excuse to focus on something else tonight.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:36:22pm

re: #78 lawhawk

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Interesting Times  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:36:42pm

re: #70 b.d.

That El Chapo story is from a fake site.

abcnews. com . co is one of the fake sites banned from LGF (I forget the exact details, but Charles created a script to look for fake news URLs and pop up a warning box if people tried to post links)

Unfortunately, there’s no way to prevent them in embedded tweets : /

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Tigger2  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:37:16pm

re: #79 A Mom Anon

Alrighty, I’m going to go out into the heat and try to see if I can work on my garden a little, it’s a mess from a couple of storms this week. I’m turning up some Motorhead, Maiden, maybe some Tesla and Mr Big, and let the music seep into my head awhile.

Be excellent to one another, we have to stick together.

I’m going to call and order a salad and then go out and brave the heat long enough to sign the CC receipt when it gets here. :))

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:40:38pm

re: #67 Belafon

I got this from work:

Why don’t we just leave them at half staff until we go a whole week without someone murdering at least 4 people with a gun? Or we could use shorter flagpoles to save time and effort.

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stpaulbear  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:42:09pm

re: #82 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Ugh. I need to do something other than despairing over the latest atrocities happening now.

Can we get a music thread soon? I keep meaning to upload some Umphreys since I have a recording of their debut of Higgins about 10 years or so ago, and I could use an excuse to focus on something else tonight.

I’ll throw this song in. This is the last song on The Houston Kid album, Crowell’s song cycle about growing up in Houston TX. I’ve had it spinning in the CD player of my car for weeks. One of my very favorite albums.

Rodney Crowell - I Know Love Is All I Need

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Kragar  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:42:58pm
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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:43:09pm

re: #86 Skip Intro

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:44:03pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:46:43pm

re: #87 stpaulbear

I’ll throw this song in. This is the last song on The Houston Kid album, Crowell’s song cycle about growing up in Houston TX. I’ve had it spinning in the CD player of my car for weeks. One of my very favorite albums.

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Video

Here’s Mr. w’s favorite cut:

Topsy Turvy

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:48:47pm

re: #90 The Vicious Babushka

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:50:09pm

That moment when you realize the tyranny the 2A supposedly exists to resist could be the police you claim to support.

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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:55:02pm

re: #38 Dr. Matt

Teh Rage Furby is still obsessing over Gawker:

Whut?

Isn’t Rage’s style also bullying?

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:58:40pm

re: #94 ObserverArt

Whut?

Isn’t Rage’s style also bullying?

Rwnj bullies always pretend to be heroes. They’re fantasy-prone idiots, who will never understand what they are. Their oversized egos depend on self-deception. The alternative is a complete mental breakdown from worldview collapse.

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stpaulbear  Jul 8, 2016 • 12:59:47pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Here’s Mr. w’s favorite cut:

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It’s so funny that that song comes right before the one I posted on the record. They’re such opposites. The song I heard on the radio that got me to buy the album was ‘Rock Of My Soul’ so that’s still my favorite. ‘Highway 17’ is a pretty amazing story.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2016 • 1:10:03pm

re: #78 lawhawk

I want to hear mroop’s explanation of this turn of events.

oh…wait….

:D


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