Monday Night Jam: Bill Laurance, “Swag Times”

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Here’s a little excellent music with which to relax after another trying day. (I don’t know about yours, but my day was definitely trying, thanks to Facebook. Don’t ask.)

From the DVD “Flint” released May 6, 2014 on GroundUP Music

Written by Bill Laurance
Produced and arranged by Michael League & Bill Laurance

ALBUM PERSONNEL
Bill Laurance - acoustic piano, Fender Rhodes, vocoder, keyboards, shaker, congas, ride cymbal, propane tank, hand claps
Michael League - electric bass, double bass, Moog bass, 12-string acoustic guitar, electric guitar, hand claps
Robert “Sput” Searight - drum set, timpani, marching snare & bass drums, shekere, cowbells, vibraslap, woodblocks, shaker, hand claps
Maria Im - violin
Zach Brock - violin (solos)
Curtis Stewart - violin
Henry Flory - violin
Lev Zhurbin - viola
Eylem Basaldi - viola
Maria Jeffers - cello
J.Y. Lee - cello
Mike “Maz” Maher - trumpet & flugelhorn
Matt McLaughlin - French horn
Chris Bullock - tenor saxophone, clarinet, bass clarinet, & flute
Brian Donohoe - alto saxophone, clarinet, bass clarinet, & flute
Scott Flynn - trombone
Magda Giannikou - propane tank, glockenspiel, & xylophone
Emilia Canas Mendes & Andy LaViolette - hand claps

Engineered by Rudyard Lee Cullers at the Carriage House in Stamford, CT.
Mixed by Nic Hard at Limebeat Studios in New York, NY.
Mastered by Scott Hull at Masterdisk NYC in New York, NY.
Filmed by Andy LaViolette.

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703 comments
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freetoken  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:35:38pm

A lot of stuff out there:

New dwarf planet beyond Neptune

cfht.hawaii.edu

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Reality Based Steve  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:36:30pm

I’m outta here, got some studying to do. Here’s a pic of a toad I took on one of my bicycle expeditions. He was the fattest little toad I’ve ever seen.

Be good, and please don’t catch them all.

RBS

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jaunte  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:39:13pm

re: #1 freetoken

700 year orbit, and it’s always winter.

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jaunte  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:40:31pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:43:38pm

re: #4 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“The Moon? Why yes, I am from there.”

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:46:38pm

Still listening to music videos, but then I remember when there was music on MTV…

Garbage - Even Though Our Love Is Doomed (Official Lyric Video)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:47:23pm

re: #2 Reality Based Steve

I’m outta here, got some studying to do. Here’s a pic of a toad I took on one of my bicycle expeditions. He was the fattest little toad I’ve ever seen.

Embedded Image

Be good, and please don’t catch them all.

RBS

It’s hard to believe he harassed Gretchen Carlson, but toads gotta toad.

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gocart mozart  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:50:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:51:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:52:34pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:52:52pm
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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:55:58pm

OMFG, can I please get the woman shredding that strat to give me lessons? Please?

(Still Garbage but plus a little far under known band called “Screaming Females” (en.wikipedia.org) doing a cover of Patti Smith’s most well known work. SF is a great little band, criminally unknown and the lead guitarist is exquisite. I’d do much for a real chance for her to teach me…)

Garbage & Screaming Females - Because The Night (Official Video)

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gocart mozart  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:56:27pm
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bratwurst  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:58:18pm

Yes, You Can Catch Pokémon at Auschwitz

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:58:20pm

An email from an admirer in Milwaukee, through our contact form:

First visit to your site you nag on EVERY PUCKING PAGE with “We noticed
you’re using an ad blocker, and while we understand why you don’t
want to be bothered by ads (nobody likes ads!),”

BITE ME. EAT MY DUNG. SLRUP JUICY-JUICE OUTTA MY BUNG HOLE.

Welcome to my block list! You jut vanished from the internet on your own
site and EVERY REFERRER!

pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered.

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gocart mozart  Jul 11, 2016 • 6:59:23pm
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jaunte  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:00:58pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Cheapskate’s probably stealing his neighbor’s wifi signal.

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gocart mozart  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:05:18pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:08:03pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:08:30pm

So. When getting down to the end of the spray on sunscreen, don’t make assumptions about how well it’s working.

Ha. Ha.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:09:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:09:48pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:11:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:14:28pm
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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:18:54pm

Can someone explain Pinterest to me? I go to a pinned recipe which leads me to an article that leads me back to Pinterest. No recipe anywhere.

This has happened literally every time I tried to get a recipe.

I do not get Pinterest. It’s not just not fun, it’s frustrating as hell.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:21:14pm
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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:21:27pm

re: #26 MsJ

Can someone explain Pinterest to me? I go to a pinned recipe which leads me to an article that leads me back to Pinterest. No recipe anywhere.

This has happened literally every time I tried to get a recipe.

I do not get Pinterest. It’s not just not fun, it’s frustrating as hell.

Been there, done that, hate that.

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A Cranky One  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:21:41pm

re: #26 MsJ

Look for something marked “visit” or “save” and that will take you there, according to Mrs Cranky

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:22:49pm

re: #28 William Lewis

Been there, done that, hate that.

So I’m not doing something wrong? It’s like this on purpose?

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calochortus  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:22:51pm

re: #26 MsJ

Can someone explain Pinterest to me? I go to a pinned recipe which leads me to an article that leads me back to Pinterest. No recipe anywhere.

This has happened literally every time I tried to get a recipe.

I do not get Pinterest. It’s not just not fun, it’s frustrating as hell.

Sorry, I don’t get Pinterest either. I try to avoid it when doing Google image searches because it is so useless, but some people must like it-the images are everywhere.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:23:30pm

This deserves the MLK Clippy==>

Looked at its profile. Automatic Block Function Triggered

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:23:49pm

re: #26 MsJ

Can someone explain Pinterest to me? I go to a pinned recipe which leads me to an article that leads me back to Pinterest. No recipe anywhere.

This has happened literally every time I tried to get a recipe.

I do not get Pinterest. It’s not just not fun, it’s frustrating as hell.

You have to go outside and hunt the recipe down and “capture” it. I may be wrong, but that’s my understanding of how things work these days.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:24:37pm

re: #26 MsJ

Can someone explain Pinterest to me? I go to a pinned recipe which leads me to an article that leads me back to Pinterest. No recipe anywhere.

This has happened literally every time I tried to get a recipe.

I do not get Pinterest. It’s not just not fun, it’s frustrating as hell.

I am blocked from even looking at Pinterest because I do not have an account.

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:24:51pm

re: #30 MsJ

So I’m not doing something wrong? It’s like this on purpose?

As far as I can tell, it’s not on you, no. I’ve never traced a pinterest photo to something useable.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:25:07pm

I don’t understand why so many people on Twitter insist on including me in arguments I’m obviously not interested or participating in.

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makeitstop  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:25:25pm

So, this Pokemon Go thing is kinda going sideways in some places…

Highlighting a dark side to its popularity, the game was used by four teens in Missouri to lure nearly a dozen victims into armed robberies, police and media reports said.

Police warned players to be vigilant when using smartphones and other mobile devices to search for characters in the game.

“When you’re involved in a game and not paying attention to what’s going on around you, your situational awareness can go down,” Greensboro, North Carolina police officer Ben Wingfield told local television.

…

Shayla Wiggins, 19, was searching for a water-based Pokemon character near Riverton, Wyoming when she discovered a body near a bridge, where a man is thought to have drowned in shallow water, according to media reports.

“I probably would have never went down there if it weren’t for this game,” Wiggins told CNN.

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:25:28pm

re: #29 A Cranky One

Look for something marked “visit” or “save” and that will take you there, according to Mrs Cranky

Save didn’t work. There’s no Visit. I’m sending Pinterest to spam. Fuck em.

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:25:39pm

re: #29 A Cranky One

Look for something marked “visit” or “save” and that will take you there, according to Mrs Cranky

But thank you!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:25:54pm

re: #26 MsJ

Can someone explain Pinterest to me? I go to a pinned recipe which leads me to an article that leads me back to Pinterest. No recipe anywhere.

This has happened literally every time I tried to get a recipe.

I do not get Pinterest. It’s not just not fun, it’s frustrating as hell.

Can you post a link to one of the pins where you’re seeing this behavior? I can look and see if it’s the pin or if there’s something else going on.

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:27:24pm

re: #33 Barefoot Grin

You have to go outside and hunt the recipe down and “capture” it. I may be wrong, but that’s my understanding of how things work these days.

Nope. Not gonna do it.

What an utterly useless app.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:27:37pm

re: #37 makeitstop

“Satirical” news sites appear to be capitalizing on the game’s sudden popularity to drive page views.

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:27:59pm

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

I am blocked from even looking at Pinterest because I do not have an account.

I assure you that you are missing nothing.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:28:03pm

re: #11 gocart mozart

Actually, Tony Schwartz wrote it.

He didn’t even write his book? So Trump is basically everything they accused Obama of being?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:28:04pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

I don’t understand why so many people on Twitter insist on including me in arguments I’m obviously not interested or participating in.

They are too lazy to untag people who aren’t participating in the conversation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:28:44pm

re: #44 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

He didn’t even write his book? So Trump is basically everything they accused Obama of being?

Trump is like an IMAX in Outer Space

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A Cranky One  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:29:37pm

re: #39 MsJ

But thank you!!

I understand your frustration. She uses it a lot and sometimes sends me stuff, with the same result. ;-)

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:29:44pm

re: #40 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Can you post a link to one of the pins where you’re seeing this behavior? I can look and see if it’s the pin or if there’s something else going on.

I was trying to get the recipe to freezer burritos.

pinterest.com

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jaunte  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:31:30pm

Potential GOP ticket is scary.

Click to Reveal
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gocart mozart  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:31:51pm

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:31:58pm

re: #48 MsJ

I was trying to get the recipe to freezer burritos.

pinterest.com

So unhelpfully, the first pin that they sent was an article listing 7 pins that the article writer thought looked interesting. Which is why when you clicked on the recipe, it brought you back to Pinterest - but a separate pin. Click on THAT pin gives the link to the site with the recipe. I hate it when people do that shit. If you’re going to put together a list, just go the extra mile and include the original link. Argh.

Here’s the recipe, if you’re still interested in it.

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Jay C  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:33:18pm

re: #49 jaunte

this may be the closest to racial diversity the GOP will get on a presidential ticket

“Racial diversity”? You mean, one human, one alien??

The big problem here is telling which one is which!

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gocart mozart  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:33:42pm

re: #44 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

So Trump is basically everything they accused Obama of being?

Trump was born in Kenya. His mom was an orangutan.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:33:52pm

re: #48 MsJ

handletheheat.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:34:06pm
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makeitstop  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:34:48pm

re: #42 withak

“Satirical” news sites appear to be capitalizing on the game’s sudden popularity to drive page views.

Huh. They got me.

Got the Houston Chronicle, too.

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jaunte  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:34:51pm

re: #53 gocart mozart

His mom was an orangutan.

Nah, hands are much too small.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:35:49pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:36:01pm
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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:36:07pm

re: #51 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Had you not included the recipe I wouldn’t have hunted it down. That’s way too much research to find a bloody recipe!

Thank you very much!

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“LALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!”  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:37:21pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

An email from an admirer in Milwaukee, through our contact form:

yeah, man… Wisconsin wing nuts just may be the worst. Good luck.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:37:34pm

Just got the rub on my brisket. Wrapped in foil and overnight in the fridge; ready for a long smoke early tomorrow morning.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:37:41pm

re: #60 MsJ

Had you not included the recipe I wouldn’t have hunted it down. That’s way too much research to find a bloody recipe!

Thank you very much!

I use Pinterest for a subset of things that are actually well served by being able to see all the visual images in front of me and where a link to the actual page is less relevant. (Collecting decorating ideas, floor plans I like, etc.)

I find food can be hit or miss, depending on how stupid the people pinning it were. >.>

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:38:40pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

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Ah, sweet jesus, that is beautiful. That’s just what I needed…

Thank you.

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:39:47pm

re: #51 klys (maker of Silmarils)

re: #54 Stanley Sea

That’s a nice recipe! Thanks!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:39:55pm
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Belafon  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:40:38pm

re: #37 makeitstop

So, this Pokemon Go thing is kinda going sideways in some places…

Strangely, I’m mildly annoyed by these stories, and I don’t play the game (I’m reading a math book). Nothing listed is even remotely unique to the game, and the scale of it is tiny.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:42:29pm
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danarchy  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:42:32pm

re: #67 Belafon

Strangely, I’m mildly annoyed by these stories, and I don’t play the game (I’m reading a math book). Nothing listed is even remotely unique to the game, and the scale of it is tiny.

It is basically just a pokemon skin over the ingress map isn’t it?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:43:03pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

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Shit, wrong tweet, reload.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:43:14pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

I don’t understand why so many people on Twitter insist on including me in arguments I’m obviously not interested or participating in.

I read through the chain. They guy says that the Democratic platform is evil because since Democrats recognize climate change, and you can get thrown in jail for lying to investors enough that it does real damage, this implies that you can get thrown in jail for opposing responding to climate change.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:43:39pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

Shit, wrong tweet, reload.

But I rather wonder what Pokemon HAHAGOODMAN would be.

Snorlax? Ditto? Mr. Mime?

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:44:18pm

re: #72 klys (maker of Silmarils)

But I rather wonder what Pokemon HAHAGOODMAN would be.

Snorlax? Ditto? Mr. Mime?

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:44:49pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

That’s not even white privilege.

That’s just this little twit spanking his monkey and hoping people notice.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:45:15pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:46:26pm
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makeitstop  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:48:35pm

re: #67 Belafon

Strangely, I’m mildly annoyed by these stories, and I don’t play the game (I’m reading a math book). Nothing listed is even remotely unique to the game, and the scale of it is tiny.

I don’t play, either. But as Withak pointed out earlier, most of the stories are fake.

As completely uninterested in Pokemon as I am, I’ll nominate them for Hype Job of the Year *. It’s literally everywhere.

* (maybe second place behind Trump)

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:50:59pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:51:37pm

OMG. I. Can’t. Stop. Watching. This.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:53:27pm

re: #77 makeitstop

I don’t play, either. But as Withak pointed out earlier, most of the stories are fake.

As completely uninterested in Pokemon as I am, I’ll nominate them for Hype Job of the Year *. It’s literally everywhere.

* (maybe second place behind Trump)

I noticed that after I wrote the comment.

As for P-Go, I’m not playing it because I’m not interested. I’m incredibly interested in why it’s taken off so well, and how it’s been so popular across all the different groups (there are lots of people here that are playing it). I think it’s kind of neat that so many people are hooked on it. It’s not like some people’s need to own guns, for instance.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:53:34pm

re: #77 makeitstop

I don’t play, either. But as Withak pointed out earlier, most of the stories are fake.

As completely uninterested in Pokemon as I am, I’ll nominate them for Hype Job of the Year *. It’s literally everywhere.

* (maybe second place behind Trump)

It’s a fun game, but I bet the hype will die down in a few weeks.

It has gotten people off their butts and walking around, including yours truly. If people are going to stare at their phones anyway, they might as well get some exercise.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:54:43pm

re: #75 GlutenFreeJesus

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So delusional! Wowzers.

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:57:06pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:57:44pm
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 11, 2016 • 7:58:29pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Wow, Tucker Carlson is in rough shape nowadays.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:01:11pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Donald Trump’s hand (right) compared to a normal person’s thumb.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:01:49pm

re: #74 William Lewis

That’s not even white privilege.

That’s just this little twit spanking his monkey and hoping people notice.

It’s born of white privilege in that Goodman knows he and people who look like him won’t be the one’s who predominately suffer under Trump. I’m also convinced that his position and the position of many Busters isn’t just about hating Hillary but is also about punishing the minority voting blocks who voted for her over Sanders.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:04:05pm

re: #37 makeitstop

So, this Pokemon Go thing is kinda going sideways in some places…

Hell, they were playing it at the gym today! Fine with me because it freed up a lot of the machines!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:05:51pm

re: #88 Joe Bacon

Hell, they were playing it at the gym today! Fine with me because it freed up a lot of the machines!

Now, that would piss me off.

Mostly because the GPS reception at the Y is so terrible, it won’t work there…

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Joe Bacon  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:06:50pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:08:14pm

re: #37 makeitstop

Not hearing about this stuff in other countries. Doesn’t mean it isn’t happening but it just makes me think how screwed up we are.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:09:12pm

Facebook Video

amazing press conference with a black doctor who cared for Dallas police.

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freetoken  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:09:33pm

Anglican churches and democracy mix:

Anglican Church of Canada Votes Against Same-Sex Unions

[…]

In order for the resolution to pass, it required two-thirds support from each of three orders — the lay, clergy and bishops.

The bishops voted 68.42 percent in favor of the resolution, and the lay delegates voted 72.22 percent in favor. However, the clergy voted 66.23 percent, just missing the percentage needed.

[…]

No rounding up, no uncounted-mail ballots… no hanging chads… to make up that .44% needed.

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No Depression  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:10:46pm

re: #85 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Wow, Tucker Carlson is in rough shape nowadays.

Wow, he looks a lot like Bo Dietl. Are they related?

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:11:24pm

re: #91 GlutenFreeJesus

re: #42 A wild WITHAK appeared!

“Satirical” news sites appear to be capitalizing on the game’s sudden popularity to drive page views.

Not saying none of the “Pokemon Go Caused a Bad Thing” stories are true, but apply large amounts of salt.

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:14:17pm

Going to bed soon, one more video…

Is this really a 65 year old man? No, don’t answer that …

A.V. Undercover: Rick Springfield covers Fleetwood Mac

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:16:20pm

re: #93 freetoken

That is my polity. We take it seriously and, yes, I imagine that the folks on the right side of history will work to make sure that .44 is on the correct side next time.

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TedStriker  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:18:36pm

re: #96 William Lewis

Going to bed soon, one more video…

Is this really a 65 year old man? No, don’t answer that …

[Embedded content]

Video

Damn, Springfield was shredding that!

He looks and sounds really, really good for 65.

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stpaulbear  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:24:12pm

re: #96 William Lewis

Going to bed soon, one more video…

Is this really a 65 year old man? No, don’t answer that …

[Embedded content]

Video

Is that the Rick Springfield of ‘Jesse’s Girl’?? and General Hospital??

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:24:38pm

re: #99 stpaulbear

Is that the Rick Springfield of ‘Jesse’s Girl’?? and General Hospital??

Clearly he is a vampire and/or time lord

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:24:39pm

re: #96 William Lewis

Going to bed soon, one more video…

Is this really a 65 year old man? No, don’t answer that …

[Embedded content]

I was reading an old Rolling Stone the other day with Stevie Nicks on the cover. She’s 66 and looks maybe 40. Maybe. Springfield looks like he’s in his 30s.

Man…how to make me feel old. They’re 10 years my senior and both look fantastic. Me…not so much.

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VegasGolfer  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:33:21pm

re: #101 MsJ

Have you seen “Sound City”? It has old video of Fleetwood Mac and Stevie. She was a beauty back then. Its really a cool movie to watch.

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:38:06pm

Not sure what’s worse…

Being exhausted and having to stay awake when you want to sleep.

Or

Being exhausted and not being able to fall asleep when you can.

Yesterday was the first, tonights the latter. Both suck.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:38:15pm

re: #101 MsJ

I was reading an old Rolling Stone the other day with Stevie Nicks on the cover. She’s 66 and looks maybe 40. Maybe. Springfield looks like he’s in his 30s.

Man…how to make me feel old. They’re 10 years my senior and both look fantastic. Me…not so much.

Don’t know about Rick, but Stevie was about a line or two away from losing her nasal cavity. I’m so glad to see that they both survived! The Lindsay (sp?) Buckingham/Stevie Nicks version of Fleetwood Mac was a guilty pleasure of mine when I was all hardcore. Now I love them openly. Rick Springfield, too.

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:38:25pm

re: #102 VegasGolfer

Have you seen “Sound City”? It has old video of Fleetwood Mac and Stevie. She was a beauty back then. Its really a cool movie to watch.

I haven’t. I’ll look for it. I always loved Fleetwod Mac.

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kirkspencer  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:38:52pm

re: #99 stpaulbear

Is that the Rick Springfield of ‘Jesse’s Girl’?? and General Hospital??

Definitely not Bruce.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:40:26pm

re: #102 VegasGolfer

Have you seen “Sound City”? It has old video of Fleetwood Mac and Stevie. She was a beauty back then. Its really a cool movie to watch.

That’s the Dave Grohl-backed doc, right? I hope it’s on Netflix. I was meaning to see that.

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:41:37pm

re: #101 MsJ

Shirley Manson of the Garbage videos I posted earlier tonight is 50.

I’m a 52 year old fat white fart. Why can’t I meet someone as utterly beautiful as she is? ///////// Sigh. Yes, I know why. Please don’t rub it in. At least I had the utter joy of seeing her in the tour opening from “Bleed Like Me” in Madison. Hella concert and I’ve crushed hard ever since.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:47:27pm

re: #108 William Lewis

Shirley Manson of the Garbage videos I posted earlier tonight is 50.

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I’m a 52 year old fat white fart. Why can’t I meet someone as utterly beautiful as she is? ///////// Sigh. Yes, I know why. Please don’t rub it in. At least I had the utter joy of seeing her in the tour opening from “Bleed Like Me” in Madison. Hella concert and I’ve crushed hard ever since.

Seriously? From one fat white fart to another, I would have guessed 35. I only know a couple of songs, but what a great voice!

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“LALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!”  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:48:46pm

re: #99 stpaulbear

And Californication.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:49:29pm

re: #91 GlutenFreeJesus

Not hearing about this stuff in other countries. Doesn’t mean it isn’t happening but it just makes me think how screwed up we are.

It’s not been released officially worldwide yet. (Folks playing in Europe and Japan have loaded the apk from the US store.)

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:49:49pm

re: #108 William Lewis

The most successful female alpine skier of all time has a home a half hour from me. And she’s single.

Million Miles

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Kragar  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:50:20pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:52:11pm

Hell, I’m 37 and I crush hard on Shirley. She soundtracked my youth (Garbage is great background for a toxic relationship with a very beautiful but damaged girl - it was so 90’s!), she played a T-1000 on television, she’s beautiful, smart, wicked chill, has an amazing voice, and is just plain fucking cool. I loved watching her hang out on Craig Ferguson’s show. I know if I ever met her I’d stammer and crumble like an idiot from shock and awe. :heart:

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:55:20pm
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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:55:58pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

We all have our dreams. They keep us alive on the darkest nights. :)

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 8:59:04pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

PS, go for it. At least your skills on the wood slats are in the same ball park as hers. That gives you a leg up over me fantasizing about a world class musician when I barely know my cowboy chords ;)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:01:09pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:01:17pm

re: #115 FormerDirtDart

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I have written some great books, really great books, let me tell you…..

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VegasGolfer  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:01:32pm

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

Yeah.

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:03:04pm

@deray is a natural leader, IMHO. Anybody who says this man has hate in his heart is badly mistaken.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:03:45pm

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

I have written some great books, really great books, let me tell you…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:13:01pm

Seen earlier on FB…

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:21:20pm

Still here still watching videos… :D

U2 Bruce and Patti Smith Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 25th Anniversary shows

I’m pretty damned predictable, aren’t I?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:23:27pm

re: #118 klys (makerre: #118 klys (maker of Silmarils)

OMG!

And here’s a downloadable version.

gifgarage.blogspot.com

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:24:04pm

I just watched Carter’s “Malaise Speech” in its entirety, and it’s a damn shame what the right has done to that good man. There’s nothing in that speech that was wrong.

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Black d20  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:25:26pm

re: #37 makeitstop

The inevitable when you have an AR/geocache-y game like this, unfort. :/

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:26:01pm

And the pricing out of the working class continues unabated where I live.

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

Gordon Gekko was wrong. Greed is bad.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:29:04pm

Carter’s approval rating jumped eleven points after that speech.

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:30:47pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:31:58pm

re: #126 Frankie Five Angels

I just watched Carter’s “Malaise Speech” in its entirety, and it’s a damn shame what the right has done to that good man. There’s nothing in that speech that was wrong.

I went to bed 20 or 30 minutes ago. Couldn’t sleep. Now I see your post and am strangely comforted. I was a teenager at the time, but Carter was the only politician who spoke the part of Christianity I believed at the time. It was surreal to see him attacked by the supposedly more Godly right. Of course, I now understand that religion was only part of the mix. And I only go to church when I visit my parents, and I am cynical. But if you want to break your cynicism, I’d wager listening to President Carter is a good way to do it. He was and is a good man.

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VegasGolfer  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:37:27pm

I shook Jimmy Carter’s hand when he was campaigning in East LA. As a young kid at the time it was one of the coolest things that happened to me so far in my young life.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:37:33pm
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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:38:55pm

re: #129 Frankie Five Angels

Carter’s approval rating jumped eleven points after that speech.

The “silent majority” actually knows the truth despite the right wing lies.

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blueraven  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:42:48pm

re: #126 Frankie Five Angels

I just watched Carter’s “Malaise Speech” in its entirety, and it’s a damn shame what the right has done to that good man. There’s nothing in that speech that was wrong.

Carter was a good man and President, but TBH, Ted Kennedy and the “liberal wing” of the day didn’t help too much. A party split like that never works out. Maybe Reagan would have won anyway, but we will never know.

Thank goodness Bernie is finally going to endorse Hillary. Some damage will be done but I don’t think it will be significant.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:45:16pm

This made me giggle some (except one that made me pause a sec.)

http://boingboing.net/2016/07/11/godmakesanimals.html

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:46:38pm

re: #135 blueraven

Carter was a good man and President, but TBH, Ted Kennedy and the “liberal wing” of the day didn’t help too much. A party split like that never works out. Maybe Reagan would have won anyway, but we will never know.

Thank goodness Bernie is finally going to endorse Hillary. Some damage will be done but I don’t think it will be significant.

I’ll believe that when I see it. It’s been promised before. At this point I’m expecting some weaksauce passive-aggressive bullshit instead.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:47:58pm

re: #135 blueraven

Carter was a good man and President, but TBH, Ted Kennedy and the “liberal wing” of the day didn’t help too much. A party split like that never works out. Maybe Reagan would have won anyway, but we will never know.

Thank goodness Bernie is finally going to endorse Hillary. Some damage will be done but I don’t think it will be significant.

Reagan would’ve won anyway. The Iranian hostage crisis and the fucked up Operation Eagle Claw debacle ruined any chance Carter had at a second term. Ted Kennedy’s primary challenge was just a pickle in the shit sandwich.

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blueraven  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:48:01pm

Yikes!!

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:51:16pm

I’m posting this because it is *exactly* 140 characters.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:56:13pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

Reagan would’ve won anyway. The Iranian hostage crisis and the fucked up Operation Eagle Claw debacle ruined any chance he had. Ted Kennedy’s primary challenge was just a pickle in the shit sandwich.

Imagine if the mission to kill Bin Laden had not only failed due to a debatable abort decision but that in the resulting exfiltration eight special forces operators had been killed in an accidental two aircraft collision. Romney probably would’ve won in 2012 had that happened.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 11, 2016 • 9:59:41pm

re: #108 William Lewis

Shirley Manson of the Garbage videos I posted earlier tonight is 50.

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I’m a 52 year old fat white fart. Why can’t I meet someone as utterly beautiful as she is? ///////// Sigh. Yes, I know why. Please don’t rub it in. At least I had the utter joy of seeing her in the tour opening from “Bleed Like Me” in Madison. Hella concert and I’ve crushed hard ever since.

Oh when I see pictures of Shirley, brings back memories of Bartcop. He really had a crush on her and he loved playing her tunes on his podcasts.

RIP Bart!

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 10:01:10pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

I’ll disagree for one reason - our situation is soooooo much more ratfucked these days. There are too many on both left and right who will not vote outside of their little stanchions range. Now, the robot may well have won, but it would not have been a slam dunk for the same reason that that stupid cheetos faced bastard may win this year. Fox. As long as the single biggest enemy of freedom and democracy (Rupert the Ratfucker) is free and pissing on the world, there will remain the danger that stupid people will win due to his propaganda, hate and lies.

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blueraven  Jul 11, 2016 • 10:09:34pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

Imagine if the mission to kill Bin Laden had not only failed due to a debatable abort decision but that in the resulting exfiltration eight special forces operators had been killed in an accidental two aircraft collision. Romney probably would’ve won in 2012 had that happened.

The economy was a big part of it, but yeah the hostage crisis and events surrounding it buried Carter.

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The Great Eye  Jul 11, 2016 • 10:11:04pm

re: #142 Joe Bacon

Oh when I see pictures of Shirley, brings back memories of Bartcop. He really had a crush on her and he loved playing her tunes on his podcasts.

RIP Bart!

Oh Bartcop, he was a dream come true for me, a liberal and a huge Shirley Manson fan? Sign me up! I dealt a poker tournament for him in Vegas one year and gave him as many pointers as I could on tournament poker in general.

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2016 • 10:17:50pm

re: #144 blueraven

The economy was a big part of it, but yeah the hostage crisis and events surrounding it buried Carter.

One or the other? He’d have been able to beat the actor. Both together? The nation got fucked hard and often instead.

Had the hostage mission succeeded, I’d have probably not joined the Army. That may seem counterintuitive but I really was a peacenik in High School. I made the papers for my speeches standing on the steps of the federal courthouse and telling our congressman that he’d been lied to by the CIA. He even admitted that me and my friend were right - Reagan had lied to him a new Republican congressman. He was never a yes man after that and remains the last honorable Republican I voted for.

But instead the helicopters ate each other in the desert and I signed up as a tanker in the 1st Armored Division in Germany because I expected to die in WWIII before his re-election.

I give thanks that I was wrong the second time as well…

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 11, 2016 • 10:45:44pm

Just got back from the Home Run Derby.

61 home runs in PetCo! He was just pounding those dingers into center field like it was nothing!

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Anymouse  Jul 11, 2016 • 10:47:55pm

We’re in The Pas, Manitoba now. We arrived a few days before our train to Churchill, so we will spend extra time exploring the area.

Several people here have asked us what the hell we are doing so far north and driving to do it. I pointed out it was to get away from the crazy bastards in our country during the GOP convention.

At an Esso station here, after having gone two days without seeing any American-registered cars, we were there with two other vehicles from Nebraska. It appears all the liberals came here. /s We had a good chat; it turns out they are here to get away from the GOP convention too.

Taken about one hundred miles south of The Pas, on Manitoba Provincial Highway 10, our car pointed northbound:

Passing the 53rd Parallel north.
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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:03:22pm

re: #148 Anymouse

That looks like a highway in eastern Wyoming.

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Anymouse  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:06:20pm

More pictures, because I like taking pictures of landscape around the hotels and motels where we stay.

The first is in Bengough, a town only a couple miles from the Montana line. The town has fallen on hard times because the United States closed the border crossing. To get there now is a drive many miles out of the way from the Plentywood, Montana crossing.

We stayed the night there, and the photo is of our view out the front window.

The second is Canora (a town in north central Saskatchewan).

Canola is a popular crop in Saskatchewan, which is otherwise famous for wheat. I joked with a couple locals in Canora that the farmers were showing provincial pride (because flowering canola is of the same colours as the flag of Saskatchewan).

Bengough, Saskatchewan grain elevator outside our motel room
Canola and a grain elevator in Canora, Saskatchewan, outside our motel room
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Anymouse  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:08:10pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

That looks like a highway in eastern Wyoming.

Too many trees for eastern Wyoming. I have counted the trees in eastern Wyoming near my home, I think there are three. (::

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:12:58pm

The economy was almost entirely out of Carter’s control. Inflation was awful, but it was pretty much uniform - prices went up, but so did wages. But one thing went up more than anything else - oil, and with it gas. And then there wasn’t enough of it. We were lining up to pay exorbitant prices.

We suddenly found ourselves at the mercy of Arabs with no way to make them relent. And then another Middle Eastern country took over our embassy and took our people hostage, and we couldn’t do anything about THAT either. Then the rescue operation failed spectacularly and embarrassingly, and we felt REALLY impotent.

And we were also, honestly, at the point where the 1970’s version of Liberalism had gotten annoying. 55 mph speed limits, slower, less powerful, uglier cars; wearing sweaters indoors.

Honestly, it’s the same kind of feeling that’s going around now. But Obama is a much better President than Carter, Hillary is a better candidate than Carter, and Trump is a far worse candidate than Reagan.

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:14:52pm

re: #151 Anymouse

Too many trees for eastern Wyoming. I have counted the trees in eastern Wyoming near my home, I think there are three. (::

There are trees like that between Lusk and Newcastle. I seen ‘em!

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Anymouse  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:18:25pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

And as I recall, the GOP held a sit-in in the US House to complain about high gas prices (in other words, to promote oil companies). The Democratic response? Not so much. Annoyed, but that’s about it.

Now with the Democratic sit-in over gun violence, the GOP wants to trot Rep. John Lewis and everyone else who participated into some sort of House ethics hearing.

GOP: Oil - no issue
Dems: Right-to-life (that is, not be shot), censure.

No, the parties are not the same.

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Anymouse  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:19:12pm

re: #153 teleskiguy

There are trees like that between Lusk and Newcastle. I seen ‘em!

I drive from La Grange to Cheyenne. Lots of sandhills, tumbleweeds, cattle, and Mennonites.

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Nyet  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:46:05pm

re: #150 Anymouse

Bengoughzi!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:46:57pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

For you my friend:

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:49:33pm

Fontana man arrested after pet Chihuahua overdoses on meth

Summary: Dog recovering at critter clinic, owner jailed in lieu of 50K bond.

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Nyet  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:53:09pm

re: #158 Shiplord Kirel

Fontana man arrested after pet Chihuahua overdoses on meth

Summary: Dog recovering at critter clinic, owner jailed in lieu of 50K bond.

Little Jack should really stick to weed.

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Nyet  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:55:12pm

Well, gee, and West is the Milli Vanilli of scholarship.

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Nyet  Jul 11, 2016 • 11:56:28pm

OK, it’s been a long time coming - Goodman is a slow fellow overall - but this is becoming entertaining again.

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Anymouse  Jul 12, 2016 • 12:14:37am

Breaking (sort of): Federal judge rules in favour of a Virginia delegate to the GOP convention that sued over Virginia’s law binding delegates to the candidate they were elected to represent.

A federal judge blocked enforcement Monday of a Virginia law binding delegates to support the primary winner at the nominating convention.

It was a victory for Carroll “Beau” Correll, a delegate to the Republican national convention who argued that the law violated his First Amendment rights to vote for his preferred candidate. Correll supported Ted Cruz in the primary, while Donald Trump received the most votes in the state.

Correll said in an interview that the Trump campaign got “morbidly humiliated” by the outcome of the case.

“They put all their chips on the table and they lost all of them — if I were them I’d go hide in a closet in Trump Tower,” he said.

More continues at:
nbcnews.com

I am glad I am out of the blast radius of the GOP convention. This just threw a real monkey wrench into Mr. Trump’s campaign (and possibly into Senator Cruz and Dr. Carson, since in theory they could pull for Mr. Trump). Moreover, numerous Trump supporters have said they will bring guns to Cleveland.

Surely nothing can go wrong with this decision.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2016 • 12:14:50am
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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 12:15:11am

re: #37 makeitstop

So, this Pokemon Go thing is kinda going sideways in some places…

My daughter has people tromping around in her front yard and driveway looking for one.

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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 12:34:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 1:11:44am

re: #12 William Lewis

OMFG, can I please get the woman shredding that strat to give me lessons? Please?

(Still Garbage but plus a little far under known band called “Screaming Females” (en.wikipedia.org) doing a cover of Patti Smith’s most well known work. SF is a great little band, criminally unknown and the lead guitarist is exquisite. I’d do much for a real chance for her to teach me…)

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“Because the Night” was written by Bruce Springsteen

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 1:20:21am

re: #128 teleskiguy

Gordon Gekko was wrong. Greed is bad.

Greed is neither good nor bad, it is a force of nature. So are wind and water. Which are great when they are contained and channelized to power a turbine or irrigate a field, but unregulated, they can wipe out whole cities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 1:22:38am

re: #143 William Lewis

I’ll disagree for one reason - our situation is soooooo much more ratfucked these days. There are too many on both left and right who will not vote outside of their little stanchions range.

These people are just the loudest and, I suspect, the most inconsistent when it comes to comparing their words to their actions. There will always be people who look on participating in politics as nothing but a form of public temper tantrum.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 12, 2016 • 1:27:36am

re: #155 Anymouse

I drive from La Grange to Cheyenne. Lots of sandhills, tumbleweeds, cattle, and Mennonites Methodists.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 2:06:17am

re: #160 Nyet

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Well, gee, and West is the Milli Vanilli of scholarship.

As a cracker, I gotta to ask, what percentage of the African-American community gives a crap what Cornel West thinks about a person or political position?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 2:14:45am

re: #170 Timothy Watson

As a cracker, I gotta to ask, what percentage of the African-American community gives a crap what Cornel West thinks about a person or political position?

Does not matter, he has a media profile and he can be guaranteed to get his name in the news.

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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 2:30:52am

This just came across my FB page, some people think this is a good idea, I disagree, I think those people hitting them should be arrested for attempted murder. But I’m not sure if all of those hit and runs were at BLM rallies.

Facebook Video

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freetoken  Jul 12, 2016 • 2:31:07am

New video posted by UC:

A Conversations with Davis Gerrold Writer of Star Trek: The Trouble with Tribbles - Teletalk

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 2:35:30am

China claims to a large portion of the South China Sea are invalid, a UN court rules.

washingtonpost.com

My local social media are sure to be swamped with angry nationalists’ outrage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 2:35:54am

re: #172 Tigger2

This just came across my FB page, some people think this is a good idea, I disagree, I think those people hitting them should be arrested for attempted murder.

In Germany it is legal to nudge someone out of the way with your vehicle if they are blocking an automotive right of way, but not to knock them down or injure them. The film, however, shows assault with a deadly weapon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 2:36:46am

re: #174 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

China claims to a large portion of the South China Sea are invalid, a UN court rules.

washingtonpost.com

My local social media are sure to be swamped with angry nationalists’ outrage.

American nationalists hate the UN, so they should also be opposed to this ruling…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 3:07:45am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

American nationalists hate the UN, so they should also be opposed to this ruling…

Haha. Maybe.

Personally speaking, I’m not surprised at the ruling. China’s claims to the South China Sea were based on some pretty flimsy evidence, and its aggressive expansion into the area without first negotiating access with neighboring countries strongly suggested it was operating under a kind of Chinese “Monroe Doctrine.” That kind of expansionism doesn’t play well nowadays.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2016 • 3:11:37am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 3:13:06am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

American nationalists hate the UN, so they should also be opposed to this ruling…

Well, as it turns out, the USA never ratified the UN law of the sea, UNCLOS, and has ignored previous rulings itself.

The United States has never ratified UNCLOS, and rejected a 1980 verdict at the International Court of Justice ordering it to pay reparations to Nicaragua for mining its harbors, he noted.

washingtonpost.com

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dangerman  Jul 12, 2016 • 3:55:13am

the other day I argued with someone who may no longer be with us.

he made the statement “We are sliding backwards and it’s because the economy continues to get worse as does income inequality.” the same day a very good jobs report came out

today i repeat what i said then: the economy does not continue to get worse.

Stock Market Hits Record High

Buoyed by a strong jobs report for June, the U.S. stock market reached a record high on Monday, with Dow jumping 251 points, and the the S&P 500 closing above 2,137. The previous high was set in May of 2015.

In presidential politics, the economy matters—a lot. More than it really should, given that its ups and downs are largely beyond human control. In any case, there have been concerns for over a year that the U.S. was headed for a downturn, based on (a) China’s economic upheaval, then (b) sluggish oil prices, then (c) the Brexit. Now, a recession does not appear to be imminent, and the economy looks like it will be strong for the rest of 2016. If so, that is very good news for Hillary Clinton, indeed. (Z)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 4:03:51am

re: #180 dangerman

the other day I argued with someone who may no longer be with us.

he made the statement “We are sliding backwards and it’s because the economy continues to get worse as does income inequality.” the same day a very good jobs report came out

today i repeat what i said then: the economy does not continue to get worse.

Stock Market Hits Record High

Buoyed by a strong jobs report for June, the U.S. stock market reached a record high on Monday, with Dow jumping 251 points, and the the S&P 500 closing above 2,137. The previous high was set in May of 2015.

In presidential politics, the economy matters—a lot. More than it really should, given that its ups and downs are largely beyond human control. In any case, there have been concerns for over a year that the U.S. was headed for a downturn, based on (a) China’s economic upheaval, then (b) sluggish oil prices, then (c) the Brexit. Now, a recession does not appear to be imminent, and the economy looks like it will be strong for the rest of 2016. If so, that is very good news for Hillary Clinton, indeed. (Z)

Despite clear evidence to the contrary, RWNJs will repeat the refrain that the economy is in the tanks, and that only The Donald can make America Great Again!!

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dangerman  Jul 12, 2016 • 4:12:32am

the democratic party platform committee recently finished its platform draft. some of the discussions were heated, some not.

a few of the major topics:
minimum wage
equal pay, housing
clean energy jobs, research
fixing the financial system
trade (tpp)
racial justice, wealth gap, criminal justice, lgbt rights
voting rights, campaign finance
climate change and the environment
affordable education
universal health care
marijuana
and more

in their platform committee meetings, the republicans are currently arguing over:

gay rights (ssm, adoption)
“defining” marriage (again, still)
“saluting” North Carolina’s bathroom bill
abortion (again, still)

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 4:19:19am

6 days until the RNC and I still have not stockpiled nearly enough popcorn.

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2016 • 4:21:08am

BREAKING NEWS
Deadly train crash in S. Italy. Trains collide head-on. Death toll is 10 and counting.

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Ming5000  Jul 12, 2016 • 4:35:08am

re: #148 Anymouse

We’re in The Pas, Manitoba now. We arrived a few days before our train to Churchill, so we will spend extra time exploring the area.

Taken about one hundred miles south of The Pas, on Manitoba Provincial Highway 10, our car pointed northbound:

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Still going to continue north?
The 53rd Parallel has taken you to the point north where the Aleutian Islands are. wiki

Attu (Aleut: Atan[1]) is the westernmost and largest island in the Near Islands group of the Aleutian Islands of Alaska

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Ming5000  Jul 12, 2016 • 4:49:22am

This news item keeps popping into my mind. Talk about a close call.
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Town of Hubbard — It began as a small town’s worst nightmare, when three Dodge County teens left their homes on their bikes Sunday afternoon, only to be reported missing Sunday night.

It is one of those cases where you want to punish and hug them at the same time.
Dang boys.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2016 • 4:54:35am

re: #133 Charles Johnson

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Worthy of the hate-mail tipjar.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 4:56:09am

re: #185 Ming5000

Still going to continue north?
The 53rd Parallel has taken you to the point north where the Aleutian Islands are. wiki

farthest north I have ever been was Jväskäla, Finland, 62’ N.

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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 4:59:22am

The GOP is just reaching out to everyone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:02:28am

re: #181 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Stock Market Hits Record High

Donald Trump can make money even from a falling market…they are just doing this to spit him!!!

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:05:06am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

farthest north I have ever been was Jväskäla, Jyväskylä, Finland, 62’ N.

FTFY :)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:06:41am

So, it seems this just happened:

A federal judge blocked enforcement Monday of a Virginia law binding delegates to support the primary winner at the nominating convention.

It was a victory for Carroll “Beau” Correll, a delegate to the Republican national convention who argued that the law violated his First Amendment rights to vote for his preferred candidate. Correll supported Ted Cruz in the primary, while Donald Trump received the most votes in the state.

Correll said in an interview that the Trump campaign got “morbidly humiliated” by the outcome of the case.

“They put all their chips on the table and they lost all of them — if I were them I’d go hide in a closet in Trump Tower,” he said.

nbcnews.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:06:56am

re: #191 Teukka

FTFY :)

got my umlauts in the wrong places…

and don’t even ask me the names of any of the places I visited in Hungary except Budapest and Lake Balaton…

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:13:29am

re: #133 Charles Johnson

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WTF does that even mean?

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:14:55am

re: #192 Dr Lizardo

So, it seems this just happened:

nbcnews.com

The only thing funnier than the GOP being forced to embrace Trump is getting the convention…and his losing the first ballot. Because the moment that happens, all bets are off.

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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:17:28am

re: #195 Targetpractice

The only thing funnier than the GOP being forced to embrace Trump is getting the convention…and his losing the first ballot. Because the moment that happens, all bets are off.

I’m not sure there wont be actual fights on the floor.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:18:17am

re: #151 Anymouse

Too many trees for eastern Wyoming. I have counted the trees in eastern Wyoming near my home, I think there are three. (::

My favorite sight in southeastern Ontario, on the Windsor-Toronto corridor, is the Chatham Wind Forest. Massive wind turbines as far as the eye can see.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:19:53am

re: #196 Tigger2

I’m not sure there wont be actual fights on the floor.

If Trump loses the first ballot, the bloodletting will begin, metaphorically as well as literally. After months of being forced to kiss his ass, the GOP finding it can put somebody more to their tastes on the throne is gonna cause an immediate uproar. I predict that if he does indeed lose the first ballot, and especially if he loses the nomination, he will try to take the party to court.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:20:12am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

farthest north I have ever been was Jväskäla, Finland, 62’ N.

I got you beat by about 2° — Reykjavik at 64.1°N

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:21:01am

re: #195 Targetpractice

The only thing funnier than the GOP being forced to embrace Trump is getting the convention…and his losing the first ballot. Because the moment that happens, all bets are off.

It ends up looking a lot like this:

And now, I’ve got two men — two men with a gut full of fear. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, dying time’s here!
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Dave In Austin  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:21:54am

Morning all……

Facebook

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:22:21am

re: #199 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I got you beat by about 2° — Reykjavik at 64.1°N

Then next vacation I have to go to Oulu…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:24:09am

re: #198 Targetpractice

If Trump loses the first ballot, the bloodletting will begin, metaphorically as well as literally. After months of being forced to kiss his ass, the GOP finding it can put somebody more to their tastes on the throne is gonna cause an immediate uproar. I predict that if he does indeed lose the first ballot, and especially if he loses the nomination, he will try to take the party to court.

Because like the Berniebros, a lot of GOP voters do not understand that primaries are not binding, democratic or representative elections. And unlike most Berniebros, these fellows do not hesitate to express their rage and sense of betrayal through violent acts.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:26:41am

Some photos (nothing gory) from the train accident in Italy.

Holy shit.

Imgur

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:28:11am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Then next vacation I have to go to Oulu…

World cities by latitude.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:28:57am

re: #204 Dr Lizardo

Some photos (nothing gory) from the train accident in Italy.

Holy shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:31:24am

re: #204 Dr Lizardo

Let’s try that again.

I hate to say it, but it’d be nothing short of a miracle if it was in fact only ten dead.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:32:24am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

World cities by latitude.

Well, if I want to balance my trip to Reykjavik with a southern latitude, it seems my only choices are on Antarctica..

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:32:33am

Don’t expect to grab any of these apartments for cheap anytime soon.

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dangerman  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:35:13am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

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head on! two trains. one track.

with so much technology how does no one see this happening long in advance?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:36:22am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t expect to grab any of these apartments for cheap anytime soon.

I could not even afford a studio apartment in NYC, much less one of those luxury homes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:43:22am

Some pearl clutching about how Hillary is being so “mean” and “unfair” to poor widdle Donnie

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ninja cat  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:44:39am

re: #199 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I had to change planes in Iceland last month. I was really bummed they held my connecting plane - for 90 minutes - as I wanted to miss my flight and stay the night.

Landing at KEF
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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:47:35am

So, white guy kills two deputies and the lamestream media isn’t talking about the lack of respect for police in the white community.

Odd how that works, isn’t it?

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:50:49am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

Some pearl clutching about how Hillary is being so “mean” and “unfair” to poor widdle Donnie

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I would have thought The Hill would have realized their mistake after Bernie got his ass handed to him at the polls that the whole “outside who’s gonna do awesome against the insider!” bit wasn’t a winning prediction. And that Herr Trump won not because he’s so awesome, but because the anti-Trump vote could not coalesce around a single candidate.

The same pundits who thought Romney would win because the economy would defeat Obama are now the ones who think populist fervor will propel Trump to the White House.

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Lancelot Link  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:55:52am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

Written by someone from The Young Turks, no less.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 5:59:58am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

Some pearl clutching about how Hillary is being so “mean” and “unfair” to poor widdle Donnie

You mean by quoting him in context without any attempts to relativize or justify what he said?

You mean comparing his statements on a particular subject on a given day to those on the topic on a different day or to a different audience?

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:00:31am

Were I the GOP, I’d be rather pissed that the FBI’s report came so close to the RNC. The dumpster fire that the convention is guaranteed to be will suck all the air out of the political realm for at least a week, compromising any potential gains from it. The polls will temporarily reflect voter dissatisfaction, then bounce back when they get a good look at the alternative on full display. And if there’s a floor fight, even if Trump comes out the victor, the stories of “GOP in Turmoil” will only further hurt the party.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:04:30am

re: #218 Targetpractice

Were I the GOP, I’d be rather pissed that the FBI’s report came so close to the RNC. The dumpster fire that the convention is guaranteed to be will suck all the air out of the political realm for at least a week, compromising any potential gains from it. The polls will temporarily reflect voter dissatisfaction, then bounce back when they get a good look at the alternative on full display. And if there’s a floor fight, even if Trump comes out the victor, the stories of “GOP in Turmoil” will only further hurt the party.

If there’s a real floor fight - and I mean actual, physical violence - during the GOP convention, well…….the GOP’s gonna have serious problems on their hands come November. Think of the 1968 Chicago Democratic convention. The chaos from that event certainly helped Nixon.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:05:24am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

This cartoon caught my fancy, mostly because it’s true:

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jeffreyw  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:05:28am

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Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:05:33am

re: #218 Targetpractice

And if there’s a floor fight, even if Trump comes out the victor, the stories of “GOP in Turmoil” will only further hurt the party.

The GOP has been in turmoil, they have been able to keep a lid on it so far, but the convention is going to blow that lid right off…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:07:11am

Seems like only yesterday the courthouse shooting was being labeled yet another BLM anti-cop episode…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:09:40am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart

Seems like only yesterday the courthouse shooting was being labeled yet another BLM anti-cop episode…

Never too soon to speculate…

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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:11:54am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Never too soon to speculate…

Unless it speculating about lax Gun laws then it’s always to soon.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:13:39am

re: #214 Timothy Watson

So, white guy kills two deputies and the lamestream media isn’t talking about the lack of respect for police in the white community.

Odd how that works, isn’t it?

I was wondering about that, but you know, we already knew he was a bad apple because he had already been arrested. No true white man would have done that. //

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:14:01am

Over at the hotel, we get the USA Today as one of the two papers we offer to guests. Top of the front page? Trump’s bark being worse than his bite, with the 4,055 lawsuits he’s had either brought against him or by him compared to the threats he’s made. Other top story? GOP trying to find its identity in the “era of Trump” and the struggle happening right before the convention.

Republican nominees going back to at least St. Ron made sure that, by the time the convention rolled around, two things had been accomplished: the party was united behind the nominee and the party was on the same page with regards to beliefs. Yet here we are, less than a week before the convention, and the party is divided into at least two camps and is trying to decide just how draconian it will be in its party platform.

Not that any of this will stop pundits from spending the time between now and Saturday telling themselves that “all is well” and expecting to tune in to Cleveland to see the GOP giving Donald a big collective bear hug.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:15:56am

The anti-science know-nothing do-nothing GOP is busy cobbling together their cognitive dissonant platform, and it’s an argle bargle of derp.

They declare that porn is a public health crisis, but gun violence is a 2A expression.

The GOP wants to roll back no-fault divorces, even as Trump had 3 marriages (and Trump’s considering Newt who had multiple divorces as well).

Everywhere you look, you see a platform that is deeply disturbing and anti-rational.

And Trump’s busy pulling every bigoted/racist/nativist slogan from American political history - whether it’s America First or Law and Order President.

The GOP wants people to feel they’re constantly in fear, that crime is out of control, the economy is in shambles and that all this is the result of Democrats. Reality is substantially different. Crime rates are at or near historical lows, violence against cops is likewise at all time lows (per capita and absolute terms).

Likewise, the economy is chugging along and that’s no thanks to the GOP, which has blocked major jobs bills, sought to roll back safety net programs, and there’s been some efforts to consider SNAP unconstitutional (and include that sentiment in the GOP platform, even though every dollar in SNAP actually grows economy $1.75, and is one of the most efficient programs that protects those least able to help themselves, and has economic benefits far beyond merely buying groceries).

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:17:07am

re: #183 Targetpractice

6 days until the RNC and I still have not stockpiled nearly enough popcorn.

It’s Amazon Prime Day. Popcorn, clutching pearls and fainting couches are sure to sell out fast.

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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:19:17am
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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:19:43am

re: #228 lawhawk

The anti-science know-nothing do-nothing GOP is busy cobbling together their cognitive dissonant platform, and it’s an argle bargle of derp.

They declare that porn is a public health crisis, but gun violence is a 2A expression.

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The GOP wants to roll back no-fault divorces, even as Trump had 3 marriages (and Trump’s considering Newt who had multiple divorces as well).

Everywhere you look, you see a platform that is deeply disturbing and anti-rational.

And Trump’s busy pulling every bigoted/racist/nativist slogan from American political history - whether it’s America First or Law and Order President.

The GOP wants people to feel they’re constantly in fear, that crime is out of control, the economy is in shambles and that all this is the result of Democrats. Reality is substantially different. Crime rates are at or near historical lows, violence against cops is likewise at all time lows (per capita and absolute terms).

Likewise, the economy is chugging along and that’s no thanks to the GOP, which has blocked major jobs bills, sought to roll back safety net programs, and there’s been some efforts to consider SNAP unconstitutional (and include that sentiment in the GOP platform, even though every dollar in SNAP actually grows economy $1.75, and is one of the most efficient programs that protects those least able to help themselves, and has economic benefits far beyond merely buying groceries).

The GOP party platform is about the best example you can find that Darwin was wrong.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:24:05am

The thread’s dead, Jim.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:24:22am

No matter the country, it’s damn near impossible to fire a civil service employee
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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:24:27am

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:24:59am

re: #231 Targetpractice

The GOP party platform is about the best example you can find that Darwin was wrong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:26:43am

re: #228 lawhawk

The anti-science know-nothing do-nothing GOP is busy cobbling together their cognitive dissonant platform, and it’s an argle bargle of derp.

They declare that porn is a public health crisis, but gun violence is a 2A expression.

As Ted Cruz can tell you, genital self-stimulation is not a God-given right, but gunfucking is…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:30:08am

re: #213 ninja cat

I had to change planes in Iceland last month. I was really bummed they held my connecting plane - for 90 minutes - as I wanted to miss my flight and stay the night.

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I was there when I was in high school, back when the cheapest way to Europe was on Icelandic Airlines, which stopped in Iceland on the way to Luxembourg. It was long a time ago, but I can remember how beautiful Reykjavik was with all the houses with red and orange roofs. An eye-opener for a New York boy.

It was a European tour with my high school chorus. We performed at Keflavik AFB and visited places in Reykjavik for about three days, then continued on to Lux. That was my first international trip, at age 15.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:31:33am
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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:32:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:33:27am

re: #239 Tigger2

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Am I imagining, or is this platform being intentionally written to embarrass Trump by containing a lot of language that he used to oppose and/or things he will never be able to implement without damaging himself greatly?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:34:01am

re: #214 Timothy Watson

So, white guy kills two deputies and the lamestream media isn’t talking about the lack of respect for police in the white community.

Odd how that works, isn’t it?

I checked my “mainstream” media sources just now after waking up expecting to see an update. Nothing on any front pages. I actually had to search for “Michigan court shooting” to find any sort of update.

And there’s nothing about “white community”.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:34:22am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Am I imagining, or is this platform being written to embarrass Trump by containing a lot of language that he used to oppose?

Maybe. Ken Cuccinelli, who had supported Cruz, was pushing for as many social-cons as possible on the platform committee.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:35:30am

re: #241 GlutenFreeJesus

I checked my “mainstream” media sources just now after waking up expecting to see an update. Nothing on any front pages. I actually had to search for “Michigan court shooting” to find any sort of update.

And there’s nothing about “white community”.

There was a story buried on the front page of the Richmond Times-Dispatch, but I had to Google the guy’s name to find a photo since there was none in the story.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:35:52am

re: #241 GlutenFreeJesus

I checked my “mainstream” media sources just now after waking up expecting to see an update. Nothing on any front pages. I actually had to search for “Michigan court shooting” to find any sort of update.

And there’s nothing about “white community”.

WNBA team wore Black Lives Matter shirts last night…off duty cops doing guard duty at stadium walked off in protest. Expect ramped pearl clutching at Fox News.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:36:37am

re: #242 Timothy Watson

Maybe. Ken Cuccinelli, who had supported Cruz, was pushing for as many social-cons as possible on the platform committee.

Cuccinelli—the curse that keeps on giving.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:37:12am

re: #244 Sir John Barron

WNBA team wore Black Lives Matter shirts last night…off duty cops doing guard duty at stadium walked off in protest. Expect ramped pearl clutching at Fox News.

Hopefully that means they were fired for cause and they’ll have to go somewhere else for extra money.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:37:31am

Giphy

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:38:33am

re: #247 FormerDirtDart

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Mike Huckabee: Deep thinking or just constipated?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:39:53am

re: #247 FormerDirtDart

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:40:07am

re: #248 Timothy Watson

Mike Huckabee: Deep thinking or just constipated?

Impacted Duggar

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:40:44am

I read through the Vox article about the different ways to respond when someone says “All lives matter” and I think the best response may be to say “prove it,” and then tell the person that BLM members also highlight when a white person is killed by a cop.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:41:02am

re: #213 ninja cat

I had to change planes in Iceland last month. I was really bummed they held my connecting plane - for 90 minutes - as I wanted to miss my flight and stay the night.

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When a friend of mine had a “missed connection” in Bali and had to wait 3 days for the next flight… I believed her because she had no reason to lie to me, but I wasn’t at all surprised that her employer was not convinced.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:42:26am

re: #246 Timothy Watson

Hopefully that means they were fired for cause and they’ll have to go somewhere else for extra money.

Besides the names of the two African American victims from last week, the shirt also had the Dallas PD emblem in recognition of the tragedy there. But that wasn’t enough to overcome the butthurt.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:43:41am

re: #247 FormerDirtDart

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Evidence #23728 that retirement is not helpful for some minds.

See also: Palin, Sarah; Schilling, Curt.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:43:54am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does not matter, he has a media profile and he can be guaranteed to get his name in the news.

Not re: #170 Timothy Watson

As a cracker, I gotta to ask, what percentage of the African-American community gives a crap what Cornel West thinks about a person or political position?

My guess. 1 President Obama = 1,000 Cornel Wests*

*your milage may vary.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:45:00am

re: #251 Belafon

I read through the Vox article about the different ways to respond when someone says “All lives matter” and I think the best response may be to say “prove it,” and then tell the person that BLM members also highlight when a white person is killed by a cop.

I guess they don’t remember the case in Louisiana where the two black cops killed the unarmed white kid and injured his unarmed white dad. They were charged within three days with murder.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:49:27am

Important context out of Baton Rouge. The racism runs deep and long, and those accusing it of brutality include other law enforcement who saw first hand just how the police behaved in the wake of Hurricane Katrina:

As I stated when I believed that the FPD should be disbanded and reformed into a new professional law enforcement department, Baton Rouge needs a similar action.

There is a stunning number of police departments around the nation that behave this way, but they don’t make headlines unless or until someone is killed at the hands of cops under dubious circumstances.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:49:42am

re: #227 Targetpractice

Not that any of this will stop pundits from spending the time between now and Saturday telling themselves that “all is well” and expecting to tune in to Cleveland to see the GOP giving Donald a big collective bear hug.

On MSNBC last night, in a panel discussion connection to Nicole Wallace’s Jeb interview… they all had the vapors over the fact that at this RNC, the “will not attend” includes:

Both living Republican ex-presidents
The two most recent Republican nominees
The Republican governor of the state where the convention will be

(nobody bothered to mention that living Republican ex-Presidents didn’t attend the 2012 and 2008 conventions either; that would have mean acknowledging that the party, united though it was, was also embarrassed to claim them).

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:51:28am

re: #247 FormerDirtDart

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When I think of Huck, I think of the quip from the late Christopher Hitchens about Jerry Falwell:

“If you gave Falwell an enema, he could be buried in a matchbox.”

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:51:30am

Trump: I’m the law and order candidate.

To co-opt a phrase from any number of movies/songs, Bitch please….

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:52:30am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

Let’s try that again.

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I hate to say it, but it’d be nothing short of a miracle if it was in fact only ten dead.

Looks like closer to 20 at this point O.O

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:53:32am

re: #238 lawhawk

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“untied states” … heh.

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Skip Intro  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:53:35am

re: #260 lawhawk

Trump: I’m the law and order candidate.

To co-opt a phrase from any number of movies/songs, Bitch please….

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That’s not true. Trump is the Sue And Fuck You candidate.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:56:02am

re: #49 jaunte

Potential GOP ticket is scary.

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I can’t decide if Von ClownStick + Newt would work or not. I don’t know if Von ClownStick’s ego could handle Newt’s mouth. OTOH, they could be like the serial killer killer team of Henry Lucas & Ottis Toole. Two sociopaths for the price of one. What a bargain, huh? Yay!—make America great again!

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:56:07am

The GOP and Bros alike want to paint Hillary as the “candidate of yesterday” while they’re prepared to accept a guy who is running to bring back a country that never existed on a platform that reads like the worst pages of the last three decades. Endless wars, the rolling back of decades of social progress, and economic destruction to rival the Great Depression.

BRING ON THE METEOR!

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Skip Intro  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:56:19am

Anyone found anything worth buying at the Amazon Prime sale yet?

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:56:37am

re: #238 lawhawk

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Is “untied states” the tweeter’s typo, or is that actually in the amendment?

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:57:23am

re: #227 Targetpractice

Over at the hotel, we get the USA Today as one of the two papers we offer to guests. Top of the front page? Trump’s bark being worse than his bite, with the 4,055 lawsuits he’s had either brought against him or by him compared to the threats he’s made. Other top story? GOP trying to find its identity in the “era of Trump” and the struggle happening right before the convention.

Republican nominees going back to at least St. Ron made sure that, by the time the convention rolled around, two things had been accomplished: the party was united behind the nominee and the party was on the same page with regards to beliefs. Yet here we are, less than a week before the convention, and the party is divided into at least two camps and is trying to decide just how draconian it will be in its party platform.

Not that any of this will stop pundits from spending the time between now and Saturday telling themselves that “all is well” and expecting to tune in to Cleveland to see the GOP giving Donald a big collective bear hug.

Didn’t Republicans used to hate lawyers?

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Skip Intro  Jul 12, 2016 • 6:58:27am

re: #268 MsJ

Not after John Roberts helped little Bush win Florida.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:00:01am

re: #265 Targetpractice

By your command:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:00:15am

OMFG

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CuriousLurker  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:00:53am

In case anyone hasn’t seen this (it was from the same night as the shootings in Dallas, after Hughes was released by police). The guy with him is his brother, who was one of the organizers of the BLM protest there:

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:02:05am

re: #267 sagehen

I don’t know. It’s a Kobach amendment, so anything is possible.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:02:09am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:04:54am

re: #266 Skip Intro

Anyone found anything worth buying at the Amazon Prime sale yet?

Looks like they’re just dumping stock like they did last year.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:05:14am

re: #274 lawhawk

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The GOP’s breaking out in a cold sweat, because this time around they might not be able to steal enough states to make a difference.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:05:28am

re: #260 lawhawk

“That’s because of all the guns!!!”

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:06:51am

re: #276 Targetpractice

The GOP’s breaking out in a cold sweat, because this time around they might not be able to steal enough states to make a difference.

they have fully galvanized their base at the cost of alienating a majority of women and an overwhelming share of minorities.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:07:21am

So it seems Sam Clovis, Trump’s national co-chair, was rude and bullying toward MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:08:09am

re: #251 Belafon

I read through the Vox article about the different ways to respond when someone says “All lives matter” and I think the best response may be to say “prove it,” and then tell the person that BLM members also highlight when a white person is killed by a cop.

One of the things that came to mind after reading that is ‘if ‘All Live Matter’, or if ‘Black Lives Matter’ was meant to have an unspoken ‘only’ there in some way…why the hell do people have to shout it out in the first place? The whole point is that they’re saying it because they feel told they don’t matter.

Which then loops back around to the one reddit post they linked, about using a dodge to dismiss the complaint wholesale and the cycle starts anew.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:08:25am

GOP strategy to get rid of Trump. Make their platform so batshit insane that even he will run away.

Problem is? Trump is bad at the reading. Very bad. Very very bad. Ok? The worst.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:11:17am

So apparently during yesterday’s GOP platform discussion, they wanted to walk back the Title IX regarding campus rape:

TIME political reporter Zeke Miller was tweeting the drafting of the Republican platform, and there were a number of issues that caught my eye (and my gag reflex), but this one was a real doozy:

The Republicans have an issue with the Obama administration using Title IX, the federal law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sex in any federally funded education program or activity, to address the massive problem of sexual assault on college campuses, which disproportionately affects women and is obviously deleterious to their studies.

They’re so angry about the Obama administration trying to help female survivors of campus sexual assault that they felt obliged to debate inserting opposition into their national platform.

But I can’t find anything on what happened, what they discussed and what the resulting vote was.

Anyone?

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:12:50am

re: #266 Skip Intro

Anyone found anything worth buying at the Amazon Prime sale yet?

I bought a second Amazon Echo. It was $50 + $10 off when ordered through an Amazon Echo.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:13:28am

re: #266 Skip Intro

Anyone found anything worth buying at the Amazon Prime sale yet?

Kindle Fire 10” reduced by $80 (was $230 now $150).

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:14:02am

re: #283 Franklin

I bought a second Amazon Echo. It was $50 + $10 off when ordered through an Amazon Echo.

MY Echo died. The mic doesn’t work, so we can’t talk to Alexa. No idea why or how to fix.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:14:10am

re: #275 Timothy Watson

Looks like they’re just dumping stock like they did last year.

I don’t even bother. I hate how they do the Available Now and Available Later which requires I go back over and over.

Too much work for someone who doesn’t really need anything. I might manage an impulse buy but not if I have to check back again and again.

Do you guys follow Amazon religiously to see what’s being offered throughout the day?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:17:44am

re: #286 MsJ

I don’t even bother. I hate how they do the Available Now and Available Later which requires I go back over and over.

Too much work for someone who doesn’t really need anything. I might manage an impulse buy but not if I have to check back again and again.

Do you guys follow Amazon religiously to see what’s being offered throughout the day?

Yeah, I just checked the Blu-Rays on sale and there’s nothing I don’t already have. I am a couple seasons behind on a couple shows, but nothing worth buying, even on impulse.

I was talking to someone about the sale last year and we were both saying that it seemed they were just dumping inventory that they hadn’t been able to sell.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:18:25am

re: #285 I Would Prefer Not To

I’d contact Amazon. Even if it’s past the warranty period.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:19:53am

re: #288 GlutenFreeJesus

I’d contact Amazon. Even if it’s past the warranty period.

Thanks. May do

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:25:53am

Makes too much sense. Must be a catch somewhere.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:26:18am

“Serious” conservatives have been telling themselves for weeks that once the bloodbath of the primaries was over, the party would sit down, get its shit together, and not only force Trump to moderate his message but adopt a party platform that charted a centrist course to the White House.

Instead, Trump has only remained a petulant ass while the party is hard at work crafting a platform that looks like it’s only meant to appeal to the most primal and backward elements of its base. This is not a party that is looking to win people over by meeting them halfway, it’s a party that’s raging against the dying of the light.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:27:05am

re: #290 Franklin

The catch is that Ryan has to do the right thing.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:27:27am

re: #290 Franklin

Makes too much sense. Must be a catch somewhere.

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Haven’t we found ourselves here again and again, first under John of Orange and now Ryan, the Senate offering a completely sane and bipartisan bill that gets rejected out of hand for a totally partisan Hosue bill that will go nowhere because the President has made clear he’ll veto it without pause?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:28:29am

re: #283 Franklin

I bought a second Amazon Echo. It was $50 + $10 off when ordered through an Amazon Echo.

what’s the sound quality like for audiobooks and music?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:28:58am

re: #292 GlutenFreeJesus

The catch is that Ryan has to do the right thing.

It’s always something….

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:30:08am

re: #294 Sir John Barron

what’s the sound quality like for audiobooks and music?

It’s as good as my JBL Charge 2, which is the best bluetooth speaker I’ve owned (i’ve owned a bunch). Excellent for audio books, music at the highest volumes can get distorted. Overall impressed with the sound quality for the price.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:31:00am

re: #291 Targetpractice

“Serious” conservatives have been telling themselves for weeks that once the bloodbath of the primaries was over, the party would sit down, get its shit together, and not only force Trump to moderate his message but adopt a party platform that charted a centrist course to the White House.

Instead, Trump has only remained a petulant ass while the party is hard at work crafting a platform that looks like it’s only meant to appeal to the most primal and backward elements of its base. This is not a party that is looking to win people over by meeting them halfway, it’s a party that’s raging against the dying of the light.

Every time the party comes out with something that sounds reasonable, Warren needs to get on a microphone and criticize Trump. Keep him wound up.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:32:26am

Whoah boy….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:33:15am

re: #296 Franklin

It’s as good as my JBL Charge 2, which is the best bluetooth speaker I’ve owned (i’ve owned a bunch). Excellent for audio books, music at the highest volumes can get distorted. Overall impressed with the sound quality for the price.

Thanks, just ordered. Worth a shot.

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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:33:44am
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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:35:10am

re: #293 Targetpractice

The House GOP will not do the right thing, even if it means GOP controlled states suffer - and Zika is emblematic of the entire moral/ethical rot of the GOP. First, they tried passing a version with unrelated riders that would have cut funding to Planned Parenthood even though reproductive health/birth control is central to preventing Zika being transmitted between sexual partners and to a developing embryo/fetus.

Next, they offered up funding only by slashing Ebola research. Because you know Ebola will never come back…

Then, the GOP decided that they’d slash the President’s request in half.

Each time, the GOP reveals their complete and utter disregard for the general welfare of the people they claim to represent. They refuse to govern. They only want to dismantle government and slash its funding and the funding for the safety net, because they put tax cuts as the highest priority of everything that the GOP can possibly do. Even if it puts the nation in jeopardy for a public health crisis.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:35:17am

re: #298 Franklin

Whoah boy….

What’s in the picture? I can’t see it from work.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:38:14am

re: #302 Belafon

What’s in the picture? I can’t see it from work.

“Today CNN analyst Harry Houck went on live TV and said black people are “prone to criminality.” They pay this guy. This is CNN?”

With a picture of a three person (and moderator) panel.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:38:28am

re: #302 Belafon

What’s in the picture? I can’t see it from work.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:38:52am

re: #302 Belafon

What’s in the picture? I can’t see it from work.

It’s the Dilbert guy, saying something derpy about Hillary Clinton, the Dallas police shootings, and race war. SMOTI level material.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:39:55am

Welp, Cruz just sealed his fate as a RINO.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:40:06am

Turns out there were ‘words’ between The Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office and The Chief Mouser to the Foreign Secretary Office:

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:40:15am

re: #303 MsJ

“Today CNN analyst Harry Houck went on live TV and said black people are “prone to criminality.” They pay this guy. This is CNN?”

With a picture of a three person (and moderator) panel.

Oops, wrong one. The Dilbert guy…

If you didn’t believe me that I endorsed Clinton for my safety, perhaps the recent shooting of police officers changed your mind. That’s the sort of tragedy you expect to happen when Team Clinton frames the national debate as a race war.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:45:03am

I generally like Dilbert, though I haven’t been keeping up with it much recently. This is sort of like when I found out my favorite actor, Gary Oldman, is a right wing nut job. In both cases, its like “Really?” Like finding out Orson Scott Card is an opponent of gay marriage.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:49:00am

What happened with Dana Gunz?

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Joe Bacon  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:51:01am

re: #298 Franklin

Whoah boy….

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Scott Adams has always been a hard core libertarian. I’m not surprised at all with the bullshit he utters.

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Jay C  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:52:38am

re: #290 Franklin

re: #293 Targetpractice

Yep. To get all acronymical about it, it’s SOP for the GOP these days. Take a specific Senate bill (no matter how important the underlying issue), amend it all to hell with various right-wing fetishes, then send it either back to the Senate for lengthy committee “consultations”, or on to the President’s desk for veto, so they can then squawk “Obama/Democrats killed this [underlying issue] bill!!”, and never mind the extraneous crap.

You would think that funding efforts to combat the spread of a potentially deadly disease might prod House Republicans to lay this shit aside for once, but apparently Party Over Country is still their unofficial motto. I hope Hillary Clinton and the Democrats make this practice a major point in their convention/campaign rhetoric: proving yet again, that nothing useful (even vital public-health measures) is ever going to be accomplished as long as today’s Republican Party has any political power.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:53:12am

re: #310 Stanley Sea

What happened with Dana Gunz?

Someone threatened her on Twitter, then called her home to repeat those threats.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:53:24am

Here are the series of photos of Ieshia Evans before and after she is arrested. I hadn’t seen these yet. Great images.

Instagram

A woman was standing calmly, her long dress the only thing moving in the breeze, as two police officers in full riot gear confronted her in the middle of a roadway to arrest her. “She had no facial expression at all. She just stood there,” said photographer Jonathan Bachman, 31, who was on assignment in the Louisiana state capital Baton Rouge to cover the Black Lives Matter protests over last week’s fatal police shooting of Alton Sterling, 37, in the city. “I knew it was a good frame and it was something that would tell a story,” Bachman said about the moment he captured the image of Ieshia Evans, a nurse from Pennsylvania, before she was arrested. A Sheriff’s Office jail log showed a 35-year-old woman with that name was booked on a charge of simple obstruction of a highway and had been released from custody. #IeshiaEvans #ReutersPhotos #BatonRouge #BlackLivesMatter

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:55:05am

re: #313 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Someone threatened her on Twitter, then called her home to repeat those threats.

The first one was beyond stupid, and the second needs to get that person arrested.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:55:33am

Amazon Prime Day offering The World At War staring at 3 pm Eastern.

I have this BBC series on WWII. Most excellent.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:56:02am

re: #314 Dr. Matt

Has anyone come up with the Google street view link where she is?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:56:25am

re: #315 Belafon

The first one was beyond stupid, and the second needs to get that person arrested.

She called the feds, I believe.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:57:05am

re: #108 William Lewis

Shirley Manson of the Garbage videos I posted earlier tonight is 50.

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I’m a 52 year old fat white fart. Why can’t I meet someone as utterly beautiful as she is? ///////// Sigh. Yes, I know why. Please don’t rub it in. At least I had the utter joy of seeing her in the tour opening from “Bleed Like Me” in Madison. Hella concert and I’ve crushed hard ever since.

I saw this post last night, but I don’t log in through my Kindle and just lurk before bed. But I gotta share my Shirley story.

My wife and I went to see Garbage at the Kings Theater in Brooklyn last year. We had dinner in a Caribbean joint around the corner and were having a smoke before getting on the ticket line. I saw two women walking toward us, and one of them had on what was obviously a very large wig with a cowboy hat. As they walked by, I caught the glance of the woman in the wig, and she smiled at me and there was no mistaking who it was.

Shirley Manson.

I waved, she waved back and kept on down the sidewalk to the stage entrance of the theater.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 7:59:29am

re: #108 William Lewis

Shirley Manson of the Garbage videos I posted earlier tonight is 50.

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I’m a 52 year old fat white fart. Why can’t I meet someone as utterly beautiful as she is? ///////// Sigh. Yes, I know why. Please don’t rub it in. At least I had the utter joy of seeing her in the tour opening from “Bleed Like Me” in Madison. Hella concert and I’ve crushed hard ever since.

Love me some Shirley Manson and Garbage.

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:04:07am

re: #257 lawhawk

Important context out of Baton Rouge. The racism runs deep and long, and those accusing it of brutality include other law enforcement who saw first hand just how the police behaved in the wake of Hurricane Katrina:

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As I stated when I believed that the FPD should be disbanded and reformed into a new professional law enforcement department, Baton Rouge needs a similar action.

There is a stunning number of police departments around the nation that behave this way, but they don’t make headlines unless or until someone is killed at the hands of cops under dubious circumstances.

I have a weekly video conference on Tuesdays. One of the participants is an Army vet who is also a deacon in Baton Rouge. This is our first meeting since all this shit went down.

He’s a nice guy, but there’s some tell-tale signs of a conservative in denial (a rather unprompted, forceful mention that he wouldn’t do anything for a Muslim org; some serious “We need to hear the whole story” when talking about Catholic child abuse).

I really try to avoid talking about controversial stuff to keep the peace, but it’s getting more tiresome by the day to keep my mouth shut (the Bernie-or-bust supporter who is an alt med proponent has been tough to deal with). If the subject of the Baton Rouge police comes up, I have a feeling the group may have an ex-member as of tonight.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:05:05am

re: #12 William Lewis

OMFG, can I please get the woman shredding that strat to give me lessons? Please?

(Still Garbage but plus a little far under known band called “Screaming Females” (en.wikipedia.org) doing a cover of Patti Smith’s most well known work. SF is a great little band, criminally unknown and the lead guitarist is exquisite. I’d do much for a real chance for her to teach me…)

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I had never heard the Garbage cover before (just the 10,000 Maniacs one), it’s on my iTunes playlist now.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:08:19am

re: #321 Dr. Matt

Even my husband started the nonsense of “well, more white people get killed by cops each year than blacks do”. Sigh. His idiot wingnut friends and Facebook, making America stupid, one post at a time. My response was “PER CAPITA HONEY”. More white people means more white criminals, more white victims of crime, we know the drill. Second response was “SO? How about the cops not killing people unless they’re actually under threat of death themselves?”

We’ve been married almost 23 years, did he really think I’d let that shit slide? He’s also annoyed about the BLM protests in Atlanta blocking traffic. I asked him how this effected his commute. It doesn’t. He leaves at 5:30 am and heads home at 4 pm. They aren’t blocking rush hour traffic because , surprise! most of the people there are actually working people too. “But what does this accomplish, it’s so stupid!”. Um, were the Civil Rights marches of the 1960s stupid too? He got quiet, not because he agrees with me I’m sure, but to shut me up. I am over his asshole friends and their racist shit too. I’m disappointed in my husband right now, it seems like most of his friends are just wingnut assholes and he defends them.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:09:11am

re: #323 Timothy Watson

I had never heard the Garbage cover before (just the 10,000 Maniacs one), it’s on my iTunes playlist now.

what song does Garbage cover from Patti Smith?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:10:08am

re: #325 Sir John Barron

what song does Garbage cover from Patti Smith?

I believe the reference is to “Because the Night” (which was written by Bruce Springsteen)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:10:22am

re: #325 Sir John Barron

what song does Garbage cover from Patti Smith?

Never mind. Because The Night.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:12:35am
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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:15:22am
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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:16:51am

A month after Orlando, the GOP strips out LGBT from the section of the platform relating to IS victims.

Hey Log Cabin Republicans, are you even paying attention to how your party views you as anything but citizens entitled to equal rights and protections? They diminish your standing, and yet you continue defending their indefensible actions. This is a party that doesn’t care about you, your rights, or anything other than preserving their power over others.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:16:51am

Here is the link to the rally, Jeanne Shaheen speaking:

nbcnews.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:17:03am

re: #328 lawhawk

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UNPOSSIBLE!!!CHICAGO IS THE MURDER CAPITOL OF THE WHOLE WORLD!!! IT’S WORSE THAN SOMALIA!!!!!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:18:01am
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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:20:48am

My 8yo and 5yo girls (white) who go to an extremely diverse school are now aware that they and their black and brown girl and boy friends can be anything they want, including POTUS. What a time to be alive :)

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:21:33am

Senator Sanders and Secretary Clinton taking the stage now:

nbcnews.com

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:21:57am

re: #331 Franklin

Here is the link to the rally, Jeanne Shaheen speaking:

nbcnews.com

I’ve got it running in the background as well. I’m fully expecting Sanders to half-ass his endorsement. I’m sure some of the crowd are going to be dicks as well.

Starting now…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:22:29am

re: #336 Mattand

I’ve got it running in the background as well. I’m fully expecting Sanders to half-ass his endorsement. I’m sure some of the crowd are going to be dicks as well.

Starting now…

they have been dicks for some time…

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:22:32am

re: #330 lawhawk

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A month after Orlando, the GOP strips out LGBT from the section of the platform relating to IS victims.

Hey Log Cabin Republicans, are you even paying attention to how your party views you as anything but citizens entitled to equal rights and protections? They diminish your standing, and yet you continue defending their indefensible actions. This is a party that doesn’t care about you, your rights, or anything other than preserving their power over others.

Remember the old chestnut the GOP was spreading around last year, “If you all care so much about gay rights, why won’t Obama nuke ISIS?”

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:23:02am

One thing struck me while listening to Shaheen’s speech: this is probably the first time in weeks, if at all, where Sanders has appeared at a rally in support of a downticket race.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:23:32am

That moment where you debunk yet another “FEMA CAMPS THEY’RE TAKING OUR GUNS OMG” post and all the responses are “I don’t care if it’s true or not, I’m taking precautions and preparing myself because I don’t live in a world of flowers and unicorns! Maybe it’s being spread around as a warning”.

I quit. Fuck these idiots. And these are people in their 20s, raised by wingnut parents my age (50 something). Good job, spend all the money for your kids’ future on guns and a safe room. I’m done.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:23:42am

re: #339 Mattand

And it’s happening only because Clinton is there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:23:51am

re: #330 lawhawk

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A month after Orlando, the GOP strips out LGBT from the section of the platform relating to IS victims.

Hey Log Cabin Republicans, are you even paying attention to how your party views you as anything but citizens entitled to equal rights and protections? They diminish your standing, and yet you continue defending their indefensible actions. This is a party that doesn’t care about you, your rights, or anything other than preserving their power over others.

They are reminding us that they believe that the only good gay is a dead gay, although a gay who has been killed by ISIS is probably the best kind of dead gay…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:24:07am

re: #335 Franklin

Senator Sanders and Secretary Clinton taking the stage now:

nbcnews.com

This is obviously all a false flag operation.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:25:33am

Bernie still blabbing about himself, his supporters, his small donations, revolution, etc.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:25:44am

re: #340 A Mom Anon

“I don’t live in a world of flowers and unicorns”

I know you’re paraphrasing, but these kinds of people should also realize that Pinhead and the other creatures from Hellraiser are not real either.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:26:33am

Cue the fainting couch for Goodman and other Busters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:26:44am

re: #345 Belafon

“I don’t live in a world of flowers and unicorns”

I know you’re paraphrasing, but these kinds of people should also realize that Pinhead and the other creatures from Hellraiser are not real either.

They would rather live in a world that is 6,000 years old and not growing warmer…

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:27:01am

re: #344 Sir John Barron

Bernie still blabbing about himself, his supporters, his small donations, revolution, etc.

I sat through a meeting yesterday where I was the only one not making jokes about Clinton being a liar or being coated in Teflon. I’ll take whatever support Bernie gives.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:28:03am

There it is

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:28:36am

Scattered boos when Bernie congratulates Clinton.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:28:43am

re: #349 Franklin

There it is

Cue the outrage….

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:29:12am

re: #349 Franklin

There it is

And now we find out how Bernie wasn’t a truuuuuuueeeeeeeeeee progressive.

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:29:16am

re: #344 Sir John Barron

Bernie still blabbing about himself, his supporters, his small donations, revolution, etc.

Eh, I can’t fault him for a victory lap. For all his assholery, he did accomplish a lot.

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:29:34am

re: #350 Franklin

Scattered boos when Bernie congratulates Clinton.

Thought there would be more.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:29:45am

Bernie just said the “E” word!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:29:48am

re: #353 Mattand

Eh, I can’t fault him for a victory lap. For all his assholery, he did accomplish a lot.

and he had to give his supporters something.

He’s now on to talking up HRC….

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:29:48am

re: #333 Stanley Sea

ha ha!

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:30:03am

re: #348 Belafon

I sat through a meeting yesterday where I was the only one not making jokes about Clinton being a liar or being coated in Teflon. I’ll take whatever support Bernie gives.

Sounds familiar, I have to make a conscious effort not to roll my eyes at the tired ass memes I hear everyday at work.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:30:23am

re: #354 Mattand

Thought there would be more.

they’re home at their computers.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:30:54am

re: #346 lawhawk

Too little, too late.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:31:21am

I want to see Bernie say something along the line of: “If you supported me in the primary but are now saying you’ll vote Trump you were never my supporter”

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:31:33am

re: #340 A Mom Anon

That moment where you debunk yet another “FEMA CAMPS THEY’RE TAKING OUR GUNS OMG” post and all the responses are “I don’t care if it’s true or not, I’m taking precautions and preparing myself because I don’t live in a world of flowers and unicorns! Maybe it’s being spread around as a warning”.

I quit. Fuck these idiots. And these are people in their 20s, raised by wingnut parents my age (50 something). Good job, spend all the money for your kids’ future on guns and a safe room. I’m done.

You’ve just described 90% of my voluminous cousins and their kids. Hang in there. You’re not alone.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:32:21am

almost forgot how well Bernie can speak…

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:33:05am

Praising President Obama for his handing of the financial crisis.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:33:34am

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 8:13am — CitizenOfEarthCitizenOfEarth’s picture
I’m hoping this is a tepid endorsement with caveats.
And by endorsing, it will give Bernie full legitimacy to criticize Hellery when she starts caving on issues like TPP.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:33:50am

Somewhere in America, birds scatter in panic as a titanic “FUCK!!!!!!” is uttered from Jill Stein.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:34:15am

re: #361 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I want to see Bernie say something along the line of: “If you supported me in the primary but are now saying you’ll vote Trump you were never my supporter”

He kinda was saying that when I turned it on. Pretty much saying it doesn’t matter who is running, the GOP needs defeated.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:34:28am

re: #365 Nyet

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 8:15am — Shirley
If Bernie is going to endorse her, he owes his millions
of supporters to not do so standing alongside Hillary where we have to see her. She repulses me. I can’t stand to watch or listen to her.

He should be by himself and talk to his supporters and tell us why he chose to not keep his word and take his campaign to the convention.

If he does drop out today, one theory I have is people have convinced him that all the marches in Philly will be too dangerous, and if he drops out, less people will participate.

Shirley you’re joking.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:34:33am

re: #366 Targetpractice

Somewhere in America, birds scatter in panic as a titanic “FUCK!!!!!!” is uttered from Jill Stein.

the louder the shouting, the more superficial the outrage

politics is not just about public temper tantrums

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:36:20am
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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:36:22am

Welcome to the posse Senator Sanders.

Donald Trump and down-ticket R’s are so very fucked.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:36:51am

re: #368 Nyet

I bet the tantrum these people throw when their favorite restaurant is too busy to seat them is a spectacle to behold. It probably involves cops.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:36:55am

re: #368 Nyet

If Bernie is going to endorse her, he owes his millions
of supporters to not do so standing alongside Hillary where we have to see her. She repulses me. I can’t stand to watch or listen to her.

Oh, hi, Republican.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:37:09am

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:37:26am

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

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It was a double! The real Bernie is in Gitmo!

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:39:41am

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 9:17am — Ajaradom
CitizenofEarth, thanks for linking the live stream.
But, I just can’t watch it. It’s too heartbreaking and I’m sorry but I’m very mad at Bernie. He has betrayed me and millions of people who trusted him. I’m crying right now. Goddamit, I’ve been fooled again Sad

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:39:46am

re: #375 Nyet

It was a double! The real Bernie is in Gitmo!

Lies, Killery took him out.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:39:51am

This is a great speech. Started with the thanks to his supporters and smoothly pivoted to Hillary surrogate. Well done so far.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:39:59am

re: #376 Nyet

tears

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:40:57am

re: #377 Timothy Watson

Lies, Killery took him out.

Holographic Bernie was speaking.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:40:58am

All I know is if he gives a shout out to BLM, the internet will break. He’s on a roll.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:41:04am

re: #378 Franklin

This is a great speech. Started with the thanks to his supporters and smoothly pivoted to Hillary surrogate. Well done so far.

Bernie is a lot of things, but I have to believe he has little desire to see a President Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:41:12am

TEH BUTTHURTZ SO MUCH BUTTHURTZ

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Thanos  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:41:24am

Full transcript of speech here:

bostonglobe.com

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:41:33am

We knew it was coming, the day the Bros woke up and found out that Bernie Sanders is a politician.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:42:05am

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

TEH BUTTHURTZ SO MUCH BUTTHURTZ

Had Bernie released his tax returns, they would have had an aneurism.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:42:41am

re: #385 Targetpractice

We knew it was coming, the day the Bros woke up and found out that Bernie Sanders is a politician.

and that he’s a breathing person, is a sentient being

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:43:01am

re: #379 Sir John Barron

tears

I prefer to alternate between the sweet wingnut and sweet moonbat tears of unfathomable sadness.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:43:20am

re: #376 Nyet

Bernie: The revolution was about more than just me.
Ajaradom: Duh, it was about me.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:43:59am

re: #385 Targetpractice

We knew it was coming, the day the Bros woke up and found out that Bernie Sanders is a politician.

A large base of the Bernie bro movement was just an anti-Hillary movement.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:44:12am

Talking about income inequality now. Can’t wait for the dead-enders to point out that Hillary is rich. FDR was from one of the richest families in America when he passed the New Deal

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nines09  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:45:52am

re: #390 Sir John Barron

A large base of the Bernie bro movement was just an anti-Hillary movement.

Now we get to see how many Bernie supporters are really anti Trump. Shoe, meet other foot.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:46:12am

Trump now picking fights with the Notorious RBG. Good luck with that.

Oh, and if he and the rest of the GOP thinks that she’d have to recuse herself if the election or other issues involving Trump came before the Court, think again. Not when Scalia and Thomas have been cozy with persons/groups who had business before the court and never recused themselves either.

One more reminder: no one should claim that RBG has to recuse herself with Trump, not when Alito opened his mouth at the SOTU; if he didn’t recuse himself on any action involving the President, then there’s no way RBG has to do so.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:46:41am

re: #392 nines09

Now we get to see how many Bernie supporters are really anti Trump. Shoe, meet other foot.

The polls show that most are reasonable people who are already with her.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:46:59am

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:23am — WaveyDavey
Here comes Bernie.
My eyes are already getting watery. I’m getting the Kleenex handy.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:47:27am

re: #395 Nyet

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:25am — OLinda
Oh shit
It’s a concession speech.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:48:13am

re: #393 lawhawk

Trump now picking fights with the Notorious RBG. Good luck with that.

Oh, and if he and the rest of the GOP thinks that she’d have to recuse herself if the election or other issues involving Trump came before the Court, think again. Not when Scalia and Thomas have been cozy with persons/groups who had business before the court and never recused themselves either.

Will he attack her on ethnic grounds, as he did Judge Curiel? Someone on his staff better monitor his tweeting access.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:48:20am

re: #396 Nyet

LOL, WTF did they think it was going to be?

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:48:35am
Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:28am — Eagles92
Still not an endorsement!!!!!
up

God, it’s great to read this post factum.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:49:23am
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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:49:25am

re: #399 Nyet

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:29am — Eagles92
SHIT. UGH.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:50:16am

re: #396 Nyet

Oh, for fuck’s sake! What did they think was gonna happen? HRC and Bernie have a joint campaign appearance at which he declares his undying hatred of her?

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:50:28am

re: #400 Franklin

Seems about right for the ~25% dead-ender segment (those who haven’t yet joined Hillary).

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:51:07am
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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:51:39am

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:32am — WaveyDavey
I have the urge to punch that smug look off her face right now.
Lucky for her I have excellent urge control.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:51:55am

re: #398 Franklin

LOL, WTF did they think it was going to be?

A duel at 10 paces for the nomination.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:52:10am

re: #405 Nyet

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:46am — Shirley
Eff that.
I couldn’t watch her, I couldn’t listen. I’m just reading here.

Bernie lied to us. He’s not taking his campaign to the convention. I am so angry now I could….

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:52:43am

God, I really didn’t think Sanders had it in him to not burn down the Wells Fargo Center in two weeks.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:52:46am

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:31am — Bisbonian
Well Bernie,
I will do everything in MY power to make sure she doesn’t win the Presidency.

And the yard signs and bumper stickers are coming down.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:53:38am

Sanders speech concluded. Sec Clinton up

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:53:42am
Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:35am — Alphalop
I will happily take the smack in the face thanks…
Hell, even the kick in the balls for that matter.

What I will not do though is EVER give Clinton my vote.

I would rather masturbate with a cheese grater….

I sure hope he does as soon as possible.

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nines09  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:54:17am

re: #393 lawhawk

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Trump now picking fights with the Notorious RBG. Good luck with that.

Oh, and if he and the rest of the GOP thinks that she’d have to recuse herself if the election or other issues involving Trump came before the Court, think again. Not when Scalia and Thomas have been cozy with persons/groups who had business before the court and never recused themselves either.

His hero Putin could do that. Trump is just jealous. Thin skinned punk. Trash with (other peoples) cash.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:54:32am

re: #398 Franklin

LOL, WTF did they think it was going to be?

a pony

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:54:40am

The Latest: Trump: Sanders is now part of “rigged” system
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on Campaign 2016 ahead of the Republican and Democratic presidential
12 mins ago

Trump’s rigged system… where he can benefit from inheriting a fortune, avoid losing fortune to multiple bankruptcies, and run for the president on a platform of vaporware and recycled nativist/bigoted campaign slogans.

And where Trump’s signature “policy” is a tax policy that rigs the system even further with massive tax cuts for the rich, and burden shifting on to everyone else.

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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:54:41am

re: #314 Dr. Matt

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gwangung  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:55:07am

re: #391 Franklin

Talking about income inequality now. Can’t wait for the dead-enders to point out that Hillary is rich. FDR was from one of the richest families in America when he passed the New Deal

Bernie himself is top 2%; he could have paid for that jet to the Vatican himself (though it’d probably hurt a bit).

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:56:00am

re: #413 Sir John Barron

They wanted Bernie pooping out rainbows on stage.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:56:55am

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:35am — WIProgressive
So the Establishment took brother Bernie today.
We grieve for our fallen brother but WE FIGHT ON RIGHT?

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:57:12am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:57:45am

re: #413 Sir John Barron

a pony

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:58:08am

Trump’s again viewing things that didn’t happen - or conflating protests and demonstrations with actual riots.

Riots actually occurred in two cities - Ferguson and Baltimore in the wake of the murder of two black men at the hands of cops. The harsh policing by those departments was a factor in the riots occurring. They militarized and initiated actions that would lead to more violence instead of deescalating tensions.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:58:42am

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:36am — Mimosa33
HELL NO
I will never, ever vote for her. Never.

Love you, Bernie. You won this primary, not her.

RIP American democracy. This was the final nail.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:58:54am

re: #418 Nyet

Fight. I don’t think the word means what they think it does.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:59:06am

re: #345 Belafon

No, that wasn’t paraphasing, she actually said that.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:59:26am

re: #421 lawhawk

Trump’s again viewing things that didn’t happen - or conflating protests and demonstrations with actual riots.

Riots actually occurred in two cities - Ferguson and Baltimore in the wake of the murder of two black men at the hands of cops. The harsh policing by those departments was a factor in the riots occurring. They militarized and initiated actions that would lead to more violence instead of deescalating tensions.

In what cities?

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plansbandc  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:59:26am

re: #330 lawhawk

It’s not just not caring. It’s open loathing.

427
Jenner7  Jul 12, 2016 • 8:59:39am

Haha.

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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:00:23am

re: #321 Dr. Matt

Unhinged thug is a menace to society!

Photographer nearly gets ran over by redneck

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:00:28am

re: #424 A Mom Anon

No, that wasn’t paraphasing, she actually said that.

Well, then, she needs to know that the world isn’t as bad as she thinks it is, but it can become worse because of what she’s doing.

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blueraven  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:00:45am
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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:01:14am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:01:28am

re: #425 Sir John Barron

In what cities?

Every city. Just like there are gangs in every city. I read it somewhere.

/

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:01:44am

re: #425 Sir John Barron

In what cities?

The usual: Gotham City; Metropolis; Atlantis; Zootopia; the capital of Freedonia.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:03:02am

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:47am — Eagles92
He’s still fighting for us.
I wish he were doing it outside the establishment, outside the party.

But this is the path he committed to. I can’t blame him for that. I’m listening to his words, and his priorities have not changed. He has our back, and I still have his.

#StillSanders
#NeverHillary

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Mattand  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:03:03am

re: #430 blueraven

I forget: what’s H.A. Goodman’s claim to fame, other than being a self-hating Democrat? Is he a talking head for something?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:03:25am

re: #422 Nyet

That’s just sad. Te man himself conceded defeat. Bernie’s diehards are a bunch of selfish children.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:04:53am

re: #436 HappyWarrior

Buncha Greens.

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:56am — Bisbonian
The good news is that we are no longer
held hostage to “what secret plan does Bernie have up his sleeve.” That’s over. We’re free to charge forward with Plan B. Which for me is back to the Green Party. If you haven’t already, this might be a good day to switch. If we can get the Green Party up around 20% this time, that will be one strong message…and maybe a prelude to better things down the road. No more Dems.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:05:14am

That’s called, politics.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:05:42am

re: #437 Nyet

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:57am — Shirley
That’s it, I’m done.
Bernie lied to me when he told me he was going to take his campaign to the convention.

I’m still automatically donating to his campaign through ActBlue. That ends today.

I was going to wait to mail in the papers to change my party registration from Democrat to something else. Nope, I won’t wait. That will go in the mail today.

Maybe at some point I’ll get over this and come back to fight another day, but I doubt it. Why? Because it just doesn’t mean anything anymore. I’ve been sold out so many times, I realize if I don’t expect anything, I won’t lose anything.

I’m done, I’m done, I’m done.

Shame on you, Bernie, for not keeping your word. As a matter of fact you said you wouldn’t run as an Independent or Green Party. Why didn’t you break your word here instead of now in this way and not going to the convention as a candidate?

And if we had to watch you break your word, why in the hell stand next to her.

Yes, I”m angry.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:05:43am

re: #415 gocart mozart

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She is one cool chic.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:06:56am

re: #439 Nyet

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:58am — MarkfromQueens
The self-congratulatory “most progressive platform” is a farce.
And that’s basically what he’s saying has moved him toward endorsing her.

“Hillary Clinton will make an outstanding president…”

I feel like I’ve taken acid.

I gotta do something else, for the rest of the day, week. All hope now pinned on the delegates walking out of the convention? Not feeling very hopeful at this moment. Lots to re-evaluate.

Devastating.

It’s all a fucking game, huh?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:06:56am

re: #434 Nyet

Outside the party? Let’s think about that for a second and realize how stupid that is. Being part of the Democratic Party means Bernie gets a chance to possibly chair committees and sub committees relating to issues he finds important. If you really truly want Bernie Sanders to fight for you, you don’t tell him that his best place is outside the party.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:07:43am

re: #437 Nyet

Buncha Greens.

Ah that irrelevant party with its nominee that hearts Putin and apologizes for nativism under the guise of economic frustration.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:08:09am

Hillary emphasizes her opposition to TPP. Good.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:08:59am

re: #443 HappyWarrior

Unlike with some others, I have doubt that Jill Stein is in it because of her true beliefs. I suspect there might be more there.

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Jenner7  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:09:46am

Thank you, Bernie. You did good.

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blueraven  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:09:58am

re: #435 Mattand

I forget: what’s H.A. Goodman’s claim to fame, other than being a self-hating Democrat? Is he a talking head for something?

Nothing that I know of. He contributes to HuffPo and Salon. I don’t know of anything else other than being a Sanders supporter and rabid hater of Hillary.

I don’t even know if he is really a Democrat. He has certainly praised Republicans like Rand Paul.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:10:02am

Great speech by Bernie. I knew he’d come through, because endorsing Hillary after she practically let him write the party platform was the only move that made sense, regardless of what the nihilist berniebros think.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:10:10am

re: #445 Nyet

Unlike with some others, I have doubt that Jill Stein is in it because of her true beliefs. I suspect there might be more there.

I dunno honestly. Can’t stand Stein in any case.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:10:36am

re: #429 Belafon

You can’t reach any of these people because they are being spoonfed fear and loathing. Yeah, I’m the asshole for suggesting that maybe voting for people who openly say they hate the government might be why things keep breaking. I’m living in world of flowers and unicorns. OK little girl, and I’m the negative one? I literally have no friends here anymore. And you can’t not discuss politics and issues with them because they refuse to let it go and do other things.

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plansbandc  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:11:29am

Oh look. It’s another idiotic teapublican meme:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:11:36am

Good for Bernie though. I’m glad he’s come around.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:13:01am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

I doubt I’ll ever like him again…

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:13:11am

re: #436 HappyWarrior

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:13:30am

re: #451 plansbandc

Oh look. It’s another idiotic teapublican meme:

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They’re sad he left it WHITE?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:13:52am

I really hate health insurance. I have a plan under Obamacare (with Fidelis care) and can’t find a doctor that will take it. Online every doctor is NOT accepting new patients. I called Fidelis care and they said I had to call the office because sometimes they do accept patients even when the web site says they don’t. I hate calling. Been0 n hold with the Dr office near my house for 11 minutes. Please tell me again how we have the best healthcare in the #$#$#$#@$ world. I can’t tell you how close I am to cancelling the insurance and saying fuck it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:13:56am

re: #451 plansbandc

Oh look. It’s another idiotic teapublican meme:

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Incredibly dumb. Wingnuts are so hung up on stupid optics. Wonder how many times Reagan or the Bushes even acknowledged officers dying in the line of duty all the while they supported policies that weakened their ability to collectively bargain and their pay.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:13:59am

re: #448 Big Beautiful Door

Great speech by Bernie. I knew he’d come through, because endorsing Hillary after she practically let him write the party platform was the only move that made sense, regardless of what the nihilist berniebros think.

This guy was referring to:

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:14:21am

re: #451 plansbandc

Oh look. It’s another idiotic teapublican meme:

Embedded Image

Already been debunked by Snopes
snopes.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:14:26am

re: #453 Nyet

I doubt I’ll ever like him again…

Yeah I hear ya. I’m just glad it’s finally over and he’s not going to throw a tantrum in Philly.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:15:50am

re: #460 HappyWarrior

Yeah, that is good. A divided party would probably lose even to Trump.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:15:56am

re: #451 plansbandc

Oh look. It’s another idiotic teapublican meme:

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Remind me what the “5 dead policeman” color scheme is?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:15:56am

re: #459 Timothy Watson

Already been debunked by Snopes
snopes.com

I saw one the other day- a misquote of a Democratic official defeated for re-election in 1994. Really sad to see your friends embrace wingnut bullshit. That’s why I don’t argue in memes. Memes dumb down arguments.

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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:16:11am

re: #393 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:16:33am

re: #461 Nyet

Yeah, that is good. A divided party would probably lose even to Trump.

Yep. Anyhow, I don’t want him on the ticket and I doubt he will be.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:17:28am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:17:41am

re: #464 gocart mozart

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Can you imagine if Obama said that about any of the right wing justices? Great job Reincey. This is a huge nominee you got here that is incredibly thin skinned. Maybe you can retake first grade with him.

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plansbandc  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:18:15am

re: #459 Timothy Watson

Yeah. I know it’s bs, but forget trying to explain how it’s bs to the “snopes is a liberal conspiracy” crowd.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:18:30am

re: #466 Nyet

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:18:45am

re: #466 Nyet

Forced by reality if he wanted anything he championed to get accomplished.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:19:27am

re: #466 Nyet

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Calls him honorable but suggests he’s got so little integrity that he would endorse someone against his will. Makes sense, H.A. Tell me how are you a “journalist” again?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:20:11am

re: #470 Belafon

Forced by reality if he wanted anything he championed to get accomplished.

Which is how politics works. They just don’t get it.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:20:14am

What happened today:

ooh that Hippie is starting to Kick In

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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:20:22am

re: #451 plansbandc

The Whitehouse was lit up white in memory of the 5 white cops who were killed. What the fuck else do they want?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:20:22am

re: #466 Nyet

H. A. Goodman is an insufferable asshole.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:20:26am

re: #471 HappyWarrior

Calls him honorable but suggests he’s got so little integrity that he would endorse someone against his will. Makes sense, H.A. Tell me how are you a “journalist” again?

He had no choice! Do you know how many Clinton enemies have “mysteriously” died!!!1!!!1!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:20:28am

re: #451 plansbandc

Oh look. It’s another idiotic teapublican meme:

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I do believe Obama ordered flags flown at half-mast.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:21:18am

re: #477 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do believe Obama ordered flags flown at half-mast.

Yep.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:21:38am

re: #475 Dr. Matt

H. A. Goodman is an insufferable asshole.

There’s a picture of him a dictionary next to “asshole”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:22:35am

re: #478 HappyWarrior

Yep.

not good enough! we want a patriotic light show!!!

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:23:15am

OK, it’s official. Let’s move forward.

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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:23:18am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:23:41am

re: #477 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do believe Obama ordered flags flown at half-mast.

Also, the Prince claim is fake.

Which, to be perfectly clear, means that the best direct comparison of using the lighting scheme to commemorate deaths of individuals—the central premise of the “meme”—was faked.

11 Goebbels per second.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:24:20am

re: #481 Franklin

OK, it’s official. Let’s move forward.

Indeed. From now on Bernie is not relevant any longer even to attack him.
On to Trump.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:24:25am

re: #456 I Would Prefer Not To

I really hate health insurance. I have a plan under Obamacare (with Fidelis care) and can’t find a doctor that will take it. Online every doctor is NOT accepting new patients. I called Fidelis care and they said I had to call the office because sometimes they do accept patients even when the web site says they don’t. I hate calling. Been0 n hold with the Dr office near my house for 11 minutes. Please tell me again how we have the best healthcare in the #$#$#$#@$ world. I can’t tell you how close I am to cancelling the insurance and saying fuck it.

After 12 minutes on hold a got an appointment for a physical. First one in about 5 years (maybe longer). Liking Obamacare a little more, but out healthcare system sucks.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:24:55am

I think wingnuts just feed on outrage which is why they fall for easily debunked memes so easily. I mean you can only have so many talking heads telling you that Obama/Clinton/Liberals/Democrats are out to ruin your country so many times.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:25:02am

re: #479 Nyet

There’s a picture of him a dictionary next to “asshole”.

Sadly, an actual asshole has an important physiological function.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:25:28am

re: #484 Nyet

Indeed. From now on Bernie is not relevant any longer even to attack him.
On to Trump.

Trump and his VP to be and any Republican that supports him.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:25:55am

re: #487 Dr. Matt

Sadly, an actual asshole has an important physiological function.

Don’t insult the noble Anus by comparing it to Ha Ha Goodone./

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:26:32am

re: #489 Nyet

Don’t insult the noble Anus by comparing it to Ha Ha Goodone./

One craps out shit and bodily waste, the other is your anus.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:27:03am

re: #248 Timothy Watson

Mike Huckabee: Deep thinking or just constipated?

Can’t be too constipated because he is such a huge asshole he would never be able to keep it in. That’s why he is always saying this crap. It just leaks out of his stupid mouth.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:27:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:27:33am

I recall my brother going on about how Obama lit up the White House for a dead drug addict. I reminded him about Elvis being a special guest in the Nixon White House…

But again, if you get your information from Internet memes and postings on Twitter and Facebook, then you are guaranteeing that they will continue to provide you what they believe you want to hear and see.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:27:34am

You know, people maybe should have read the portent of “tired bird trapped inside stadium lands on Bernie’s podium” more cautiously.

If I recall correctly, slapdash interpretation of vague augury did for Xerxes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:27:49am

re: #487 Dr. Matt

Sadly, an actual asshole has an important physiological function.

Yes, he would be more like a boil.

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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:28:07am

We go now live for Ha Ha Goodman’s reaction to Bernie’s endorsement of Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:28:55am

re: #493 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall my brother going on about how Obama lit up the White House for a dead drug addict. I reminded him about Elvis being a special guest in the Nixon White House…

But again, if you get your information from Internet memes and postings on Twitter and Facebook, then you are guaranteeing that they will continue to provide you what they believe you want to hear and see.

As I said, outrage junkies.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:29:08am

re: #474 gocart mozart

The Whitehouse was lit up white in memory of the 5 white cops who were killed. What the fuck else do they want?

The President ordered flags be lowered to half staff. That’s the nation’s highest honor to someone who has passed.

White is the basic lighting scheme for the White House.

The White House lighting was not adjusted for Prince, nor was it adjusted for the killed officers. It wasn’t changed for the deaths of individuals at the hands of police either.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:29:22am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:29:28am

There is still that meme going around that Obama lowered the flags for Whitney Houston when in fact it was actually CHRIS CHRISTIE who lowered the flags for her in NJ.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:30:15am

re: #496 gocart mozart

We go now live for Ha Ha Goodman’s reaction to Bernie’s endorsement of Hillary.

Packin’ up his unicorn shit, and going home

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:30:45am

re: #494 The Ghost of a Flea

You know, people maybe should have read the portent of “tired bird trapped inside stadium lands on Bernie’s podium” more cautiously.

If I recall correctly, slapdash interpretation of vague augury did for Xerxes.

*shrug*
Maybe haruspicy would’ve delivered a better result.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:31:13am

Know how to tell the GOP lost on the email scandal?

Fox turned away from the AG Lynch hearings… there’s nothing there to latch on to, and the network can’t sustain outrage over a chance encounter. Even the GOP is going through the motions here in their perpetual outrage machine.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:31:17am
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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:31:56am
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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:32:24am

re: #504 Franklin

Before you ask, Mr. Trump, Mengele is also dead.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:32:35am

re: #503 lawhawk

Know how to tell the GOP lost on the email scandal?

Fox turned away from the AG Lynch hearings… there’s nothing there to latch on to, and the network can’t sustain outrage over a chance encounter. Even the GOP is going through the motions here in their perpetual outrage machine.

FNC is waiting for Clinton to choose her running mate so they can tell the rubes about how Clinton-????? are the most diabolical evil ever. I

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Great White Snark  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:32:48am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:33:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:34:04am

re: #506 Nyet

Before you ask, Mr. Trump, Mengele is also dead.

As is Saddam Hussein…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:34:13am

re: #366 Targetpractice

Somewhere in America, birds scatter in panic as a titanic “FUCK!!!!!!” is uttered from Jill Stein.

Homer Shouts a Bad Word

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:34:38am

re: #510 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As is Saddam Hussein…

And you friend Kgqhaddhafiy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:34:44am

re: #509 FormerDirtDart

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Interesting guy.
en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:35:16am

re: #510 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As is Saddam Hussein…

Francisco Franco, still very dead. And Pinochet too. We know you hoped they would help you with the Hispanic outreach.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:35:48am

re: #514 HappyWarrior

Francisco Franco, still very dead. And Pinochet too. We know you hoped they would help you with the Hispanic outreach.

Noriega?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:36:36am

re: #515 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Noriega?

Debs ran for President from prison, why not?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:38:01am

re: #494 The Ghost of a Flea

You know, people maybe should have read the portent of “tired bird trapped inside stadium lands on Bernie’s podium” more cautiously.

If I recall correctly, slapdash interpretation of vague augury did for Xerxes.

And just for the sake of clarity, I’m not mocking Bernie Sanders. I might find him frustrating at times, but I respect him.

I am mocking the fuck—nay, all the fucks—out of the overly-dramatic, sentimental people who got caught up in mythologizing the dude.

Turning actual people into easily-digestable tropes that are effectively all projection, no description, doesn’t suddenly become a good thing is the conjured image is “positive” and the person re-cast is “good.” It’s setting them up for failure because they cannot be the abstractly pure eidolon in a hyle world.

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No Depression  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:38:54am

re: #509 FormerDirtDart

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So Hillary’s thinking of going all in on foreign policy for the general election. Might not be a bad idea though, as Hillary is way better on that issue than Trump. If she chooses Stavridis, her detractors on the left will likely point to it as an example of her alleged hawkishness, but c’vest la vie.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:39:34am

re: #502 Nyet

*shrug*
Maybe haruspicy would’ve delivered a better result.

Plus: snacks.

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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:40:07am

facebook.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:40:44am

re: #502 Nyet

*shrug*
Maybe haruspicy would’ve delivered a better result.

soothsaying with a side of prestidigitation

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:41:04am

re: #520 gocart mozart

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Now that Bernie’s on board, I look forward to his attacks on Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:42:17am

re: #522 HappyWarrior

Now that Bernie’s on board, I look forward to his attacks on Trump.

we need to attacks: we just need his own words presented, in context, but without people making excuses or relativizing them…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:42:28am

re: #505 lawhawk

You built that motherfuckers!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:42:39am

re: #500 The Vicious Babushka

There is still that meme going around that Obama lowered the flags for Whitney Houston when in fact it was actually CHRIS CHRISTIE who lowered the flags for her in NJ.

Ever look at the whole pattern of wingnut memes and realize that they want to live in a shit world, because the only way they can be virtuous is if everyone else is basically some kind of malevolent goblin?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:43:05am

re: #518 No Depression

So Hillary’s thinking of going all in on foreign policy for the general election. Might not be a bad idea though, as Hillary is way better on that issue than Trump. If she chooses Stavridis, her detractors on the left will likely point to it as an example of her alleged hawkishness, but c’vest la vie.

I think it’s not a bad idea honestly. Definitely unconventional but Trump’s FP is so dangerous and a big contrast between the two is not only good for the country to see but the world. The Admiral to his credit seems to have an interesting background. He seems very sympathetic to the plight of refugees given his own grandfather’s experiences.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:43:29am

re: #523 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we need to attacks: we just need his own words presented, in context, but without people making excuses or relativizing them…

True, the best weapon against Trump is Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:44:12am

re: #525 The Ghost of a Flea

Ever look at the whole pattern of wingnut memes and realize that they want to live in a shit world, because the only way they can be virtuous is if everyone else is basically some kind of malevolent goblin?

It’s a deeply cynical world they live in where only good guys with guns can stop bad guys with guns. Where military force is the only thing that can stop Islamic terrorism.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:44:40am
Stavridis On Putin: Meet Strength with Strength

I already like him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:45:40am

Hey Trump! Putin and Kim Jong Un are still around.

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Skip Intro  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:45:40am

re: #520 gocart mozart

Hey Donnie, how’s that speaker list going?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:46:14am

re: #529 Nyet

I already like him.

This was noteworthy as well- PEr wiki
“As Dean of The Fletcher School, Stavridis has initiated a strategic planning process, invited several high level speakers to the campus, and is focusing thematically on the Arctic, the role of women in international relations, synthetic biology and its impact on foreign affairs, cyber, and the role of online media and social networks in public diplomacy.[21]”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:47:26am

I think at the very least this guy is someone that will be playing a role in a Clinton administration. Definitely doss not seem to be your typical military officer type. Now of course, he’s not used to being a politician.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:47:31am

re: #532 HappyWarrior

This was noteworthy as well- PEr wiki
“As Dean of The Fletcher School, Stavridis has initiated a strategic planning process, invited several high level speakers to the campus, and is focusing thematically on the Arctic, the role of women in international relations, synthetic biology and its impact on foreign affairs, cyber, and the role of online media and social networks in public diplomacy.[21]”

Sounds like a great candidate for SecDef.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:47:35am

re: #531 Skip Intro

Probably fast approaching the Adam Baldwin portion.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:48:24am

re: #532 HappyWarrior

Super brainy. Like.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:48:49am

re: #534 Belafon

Sounds like a great candidate for SecDef.

That’s what I was thinking as well. They could be vetting him for VP in a way because they know they may want him for that possibly as well.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:49:54am

re: #536 Nyet

Super brainy. Like.

Yep. Seems like a smart cat. This is one reason why I came to favor Clinton over Sanders. I trust Clinton’s ability to assemble a team of capable men and women for the Executive Branch.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:50:02am

I see that two of the most insufferable Berniacs at DKos during the primaries have donated their first $27 to Hillary.

All is good.

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Brian J.  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:50:50am

re: #522 HappyWarrior

Now that Bernie’s on board, I look forward to his attacks on Trump.

Keep looking. Next favor he does for anyone but himself will be the first. At least the shit sandwich has been eaten.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:50:54am

re: #534 Belafon

Sounds like a great candidate for SecDef.

Expressive resume/CV, but I don’t think he brings much to a ticket that already has Clinton at the top.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:53:31am

re: #541 Timothy Watson

Expressive resume/CV, but I don’t think he brings much to a ticket that already has Clinton at the top.

Clinton interestingly can do the opposite of what Obama did with Biden. Now that said, I hope she doesn’t be like McCain and choose someone simply to appease a fanatical part of the base but fortunately Clinton and her team are much more politically astute than McCain and his guys were. I’m really eager to see who she chooses.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:54:16am

re: #542 HappyWarrior

Plus she doesn’t need gimmicks to win this, unlike McCain…

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:54:42am

re: #428 gocart mozart

Unhinged thug is a menace to society!

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Video

This is American exceptionalism.

I see so much of this bullying bullshit. People are short fused and over what? But hey, he has a big truck to go with his big mouth and his big belly.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:55:09am

re: #543 Nyet

Plus she doesn’t need gimmicks to win this, unlike McCain…

Right. There’s that too.

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Jenner7  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:56:45am

Oh my god, the ending.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:56:52am

re: #544 ObserverArt

This is American exceptionalism.

I see so much of this bullying bullshit. People are short fused and over what? But hey, he has a big truck to go with his big mouth and his big belly.

Probably yet another self proclaimed responsible individual that owns a gun. Jesus these people scare me.

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Tigger2  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:57:54am

re: #466 Nyet

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:58:17am

re: #544 ObserverArt

This is American exceptionalism.

I see so much of this bullying bullshit. People are short fused and over what? But hey, he has a big truck to go with his big mouth and his big belly.

I do not get what the disagreement was about. Were they blocking the entrance to his driveway or does he claim that the road itself was his driveway?

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:58:43am

re: #541 Timothy Watson

Expressive resume/CV, but I don’t think he brings much to a ticket that already has Clinton at the top.

VPs don’t really add much, but they can take away.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:58:53am

re: #549 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not get what the disagreement was about. Were they blocking the entrance to his driveway or does he claim that the road itself was his driveway?

Seemed to me to be claiming the road itself was his driveway.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:59:35am

re: #550 Belafon

VPs don’t really add much, but they can take away.

Ala Palin. Kind of threw that “Country First” motto in the trash when he chose someone who was a stupid partisan hack.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 9:59:47am

re: #551 HappyWarrior

Seemed to me to be claiming the road itself was his driveway.

that is what I do not get.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:00:09am

re: #546 Jenner7

See, this is why not everything is forgiven and forgotten.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:00:41am

re: #554 Nyet

See, this is why not everything is forgiven and forgotten.

Yeah that was extremely stupid of him to say that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:00:44am

re: #546 Jenner7

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Oh my god, the ending.

Trump is eminently qualified: just look at his legislative and policy-making record and his years of public service…

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:02:19am

1. Scalia, deceased
2. Ginsberg, 83
3. Kennedy, 79
4. Breyer, 77

Sadly, this doesn’t matter to assholes like HAHA Goodman.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:03:15am

re: #557 Dr. Matt

1. Scalia, deceased
2. Ginsberg, 83
3. Kennedy, 79
4. Breyer, 77

Sadly, this doesn’t matter to assholes like HAHA Goodman.

Of course not.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:04:24am

So, the Tax Foundation did a study of the GOP proposed tax reform package:

Those are the highlights, but here’s teh bottom line. It would add $2.4 trillion in debt (over 10 year period). GOP wants everyone to use dynamic scoring, but even there, it’d add $191 billion to debt.

It’s a tax redistribution plan, and the assumptions are such that major budget cuts would be necessary to avoid the debt suggested by the plan.

It’s less batcrap insane than Trump’s tax plan. Trump’s plan would add more than $10 trillion to debt, or a couple trillion using dynamic scoring.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:04:41am

HE SO MAD BRO

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:05:16am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:05:31am

So, did Bernie actually endorse Hillary or was it more of a “Well guys. She’s going to be the nominee. There’s no way I can win. So.. Yeah.” kinda thing?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:05:36am

re: #559 lawhawk

So, the Tax Foundation did a study of the GOP proposed tax reform package:

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Those are the highlights, but here’s teh bottom line. It would add $2.4 trillion in debt (over 10 year period). GOP wants everyone to use dynamic scoring, but even there, it’d add $191 billion to debt.

It’s a tax redistribution plan, and the assumptions are such that major budget cuts would be necessary to avoid the debt suggested by the plan.

It’s less batcrap insane than Trump’s tax plan. Trump’s plan would add more than $10 trillion to debt, or a couple trillion using dynamic scoring.

The GOP again shows that they’re the total opposite of the fiscally responsible party tehy claim to be. Ironically the more fiscal responsible Republicans are ones that are hated by today’s GOP or seen as RINOs.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:06:18am

re: #533 HappyWarrior

I think at the very least this guy is someone that will be playing a role in a Clinton administration. Definitely doss not seem to be your typical military officer type. Now of course, he’s not used to being a politician.

I should think anyone being promoted to admiral in the Navy is already a pretty good politician.

He does seem to be a free thinker and not just about the military…about everything. Gonna have to study more about him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:06:24am

re: #560 The Vicious Babushka

HE SO MAD BRO

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Something funny about the man who bribed an Attorney General investigaiting him crying about “special interests” You’re good Donald but people aren’t that stupid.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:06:48am

re: #546 Jenner7

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Oh my god, the ending.

Wow, that sucked. Uday and Kusay must be editing the campaign ads now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:06:52am

re: #541 Timothy Watson

Expressive resume/CV, but I don’t think he brings much to a ticket that already has Clinton at the top.

It might be a move to reassure men with a man with military experience. If Clinton can reduce Trump’s margin with men to single digits, she could win in a landslide, and maybe bring the House with her.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:07:07am

re: #564 ObserverArt

I should think anyone being promoted to admiral in the Navy is already a pretty good politician.

He does seem to be a free thinker and not just about the military…about everything. Gonna have to study more about him.

True good point. I do like that he has an interesting array of thoughts on matters not just military related.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:07:12am

re: #539 Nyet

I see that two of the most insufferable Berniacs at DKos during the primaries have donated their first $27 to Hillary.

All is good.

H A Goodman would too…if he had it.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:07:28am

re: #562 GlutenFreeJesus

So, did Bernie actually endorse Hillary or was it more of a “Well guys. She’s going to be the nominee. There’s no way I can win. So.. Yeah.” kinda thing?

Full-throated, I think this is called.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:07:35am

re: #567 Big Beautiful Door

It might be a move to reassure men with a man with military experience. If Clinton can reduce Trump’s margin with men to single digits, she could win in a landslide, and maybe bring the House with her.

God if she could do that. That would be awesome.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:08:08am

Just got spam from Trump campaign for a chance to win a trip to the RNC. Now that’s some weapon’s grade irony considering that I just tweeted that a bunch of his former rivals in the GOP primaries wont attend, and none of the former GOP presidents (GHWB, GWB) will be in attendance.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:08:28am

re: #557 Dr. Matt

1. Scalia, deceased
2. Ginsberg, 83
3. Kennedy, 79
4. Breyer, 77

Sadly, this doesn’t matter to assholes like HAHA Goodman.

Goodman doesn’t actually want to accomplish anything. He just wants to have his principles be pure.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:08:33am

re: #570 Nyet

Good. Hoping he gets out to campaign for her ASAP!

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:09:01am

re: #549 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not get what the disagreement was about. Were they blocking the entrance to his driveway or does he claim that the road itself was his driveway?

I certainly didn’t see a drive way. So, he most likely is a land owner in the area and thinks it is all his. Bundy syndrome.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:09:06am

re: #574 GlutenFreeJesus

Good. Hoping he gets out to campaign for her ASAP!

I will grudgingly admit that it was a great endorsement speech.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:09:15am

re: #562 GlutenFreeJesus

So, did Bernie actually endorse Hillary or was it more of a “Well guys. She’s going to be the nominee. There’s no way I can win. So.. Yeah.” kinda thing?

He actually endorsed her. Gave a great speech.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:13:34am

Daily Caller/Drudge definitely doing their best to take attention off the GOP shit show.

The headlies (yeah, that’s really what they are - started to fix the typo, and it just works) show what agenda is at work.

Democrats knew that Bernie would eventually endorse Clinton, even if it took him weeks to get to this point. GOP shitshow remains shitty, as former rivals wont appear, former presidents wont appear, and no one seems to want to be Trump’s VP, even though Trump’s policies are totally in line with GOP doctrine. It’s his style that rubs GOP insiders - that and his threadbare political operations and know-nothing approach that is breathtaking in its scope.

So who exactly was betrayed? Bernie supporters who weren’t Democrats? Because Democrats aren’t betrayed when the Democrats will line up behind the candidate.

The same isn’t being said of the GOP. The GOP convention is just days away and there’s no mistaking the stench of saltpeter and brimstone.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:14:31am

re: #562 GlutenFreeJesus

So, did Bernie actually endorse Hillary or was it more of a “Well guys. She’s going to be the nominee. There’s no way I can win. So.. Yeah.” kinda thing?

Here’s the prepared remarks: berniesanders.com

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Jenner7  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:16:00am

And he’s already going after Trump. Goood. Good.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:16:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:16:19am

re: #578 lawhawk

Daily Caller/Drudge definitely doing their best to take attention off the GOP shit show.

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The headlies (yeah, that’s really what they are - started to fix the typo, and it just works) show what agenda is at work.

Democrats knew that Bernie would eventually endorse Clinton, even if it took him weeks to get to this point. GOP shitshow remains shitty, as former rivals wont appear, former presidents wont appear, and no one seems to want to be Trump’s VP, even though Trump’s policies are totally in line with GOP doctrine. It’s his style that rubs GOP insiders - that and his threadbare political operations and know-nothing approach that is breathtaking in its scope.

So who exactly was betrayed? Bernie supporters who weren’t Democrats? Because Democrats aren’t betrayed when the Democrats will line up behind the candidate.

The same isn’t being said of the GOP. The GOP convention is just days away and there’s no mistaking the stench of saltpeter and brimstone.

Drudge is desperate as usual I see.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:16:20am

re: #578 lawhawk

That’s what their paycheck relies on. I would expect nothing less (which is saying something, considering how low they go) from any of these so called “news” sites. It’s who they are and what they do.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:16:55am

re: #580 Jenner7

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And he’s already going after Trump. Goood. Good.

Good egg the bastard on.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:17:09am
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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:17:42am

Nothing from Dawson and King so far.

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lizardofid  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:18:04am

Hello all

Air Force One and Air Force Two are wheels down at Love Field.

Wow, quite a sight, wish it was more pleasant circumstances.

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blueraven  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:19:07am

LOL

Literally, the newspaper he works for.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:19:17am

re: #585 Franklin

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Awesome honor for a great man.

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:19:27am
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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:19:29am

The crazy people tasked with putting together the GOP platform. Tax cheats/deadbeats, religious theocrats, and authoritarians.

thedailybeast.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:20:26am

re: #588 blueraven

LOL

Literally, the newspaper he works for.

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Scalia repeatedly did shit like that and the RWNJs loved him for it. And Trump’s brought a lot of it on himself by attacking people like Judge Curiel. So no, I don’t think she crossed a line at all.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:20:34am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:21:15am

re: #591 lawhawk

The crazy people tasked with putting together the GOP platform. Tax cheats/deadbeats, religious theocrats, and authoritarians.

thedailybeast.com

Lovely bunch of people to be around I’m sure. ///

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:21:23am

re: #593 Franklin

TBH, not the best comparison, considering the fate of the Death Stars…

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:21:24am

re: #504 Franklin

In such a scenario, that is Mussolini as VP, I wonder how long it would take for either of those hair-brained narcissists to try murdering one another.

On camera.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:23:16am

Ha ha, good one.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:24:08am

RELATED:

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:24:32am

I am hoping this Dallas memorial service comes off without any crazy business. And I hope all people…ALL the people…act properly for just one day to honor the victims and their families. And hopefully the police also are respectful of the President, we don’t need politics at a memorial service. You can get back to that tomorrow.

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:25:17am
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:25:21am

re: #517 The Ghost of a Flea

Hyle? Does a quick web search.

Ooo. I learned a new word.

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blueraven  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:25:48am

re: #540 Brian J.

Keep looking. Next favor he does for anyone but himself will be the first. At least the shit sandwich has been eaten.

Time to get over it and move forward. You cant expect Bernie’s folks to get on board if we don’t.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:26:00am

re: #600 Kragar

LOL.

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nines09  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:26:09am

re: #600 Kragar

I’ve tried. I can’t get THAT high.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:26:55am

re: #530 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey Trump! Putin and Kim Jong Un are still around.

Another case of signing his own death warrant.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:27:03am

I think I’m done with Facebook. Just got called a stupid bitch. So, I changed my profile pic to a unicorn with a rainbow and deleted my community service posts (I had started a series about how to feel less helpless about bad things by doing good, yeah, no one gives a fuck). No one I know cares about a single fucking soul but themselves. I’m sad, but also angry. No one will miss me there anyway. I’ll keep the page open so I can see pics of the grandkids, but I’m done. I feel a ton worse every time I look at my fucking newsfeed and I realize more than ever that I don’t belong in GA anymore. I’d be better off spending my online time here and figuring out how to move the fuck out of here. Because if I wait on The Husband to do it I’ll be dead from old age.

I’m pissed off, but really fucking sad too. I really do not have friends who care about anything but their guns and taking shit from poor people. I went through the list, there are 3 people on it who aren’t right wing douchebags and none of them live near me. Fuck it.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:27:20am

I think he confused voting with onanism.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:27:40am

Hold the fuck on, there is a progressive *majority* in the Dem party? That’s news to me.

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lizardofid  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:27:57am

re: #599 ObserverArt

I am hoping this Dallas memorial service comes off without any crazy business. And I hope all people…ALL the people…act properly for just one day to honor the victims and their families. And hopefully the police also are respectful of the President, we don’t need politics at a memorial service. You can get back to that tomorrow.

I agree, and really believe it will be respectful. But I have been disappointed before.

Coverage if interested.

fox4news.com

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:28:07am

Teh Daily Caller: People Are Furious That Bernie Sanders Just Endorsed Hillary Clinton

People are furious that Bernie Sanders just endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Speaking to a crowd in New Hampshire Tuesday, the senator from Vermont thanked the 13 million people who voted for him during the primaries, but noted he didn’t secure enough delegates to win the nomination.

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“It is not enough to win the nomination,” Sanders told the crowd. “Hillary Clinton goes into the convention with a lot more delegates. Secretary Clinton has won the Democratic nominating process. And I congratulate her.”
“She will be the Democratic nominee for president. I intend to do everything I can to make sure she is the next president of the United States.”

His supporters were not pleased.

LOL! This passes as actual journalism!?

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:28:18am

re: #603 Nyet

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:28:32am

re: #607 Nyet

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I think he confused voting with onanism.

He dislikes Hillary even more now? Really seems to me that someone needs a diaper.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:29:03am

re: #600 Kragar

LMAO! That’s some funny stuff there.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:29:19am

re: #600 Kragar

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Yeah go ahead with Jill Stein who won’t even be on the ballot in all 50 states and couldn’t even get elected to high office in Massachusetts.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:29:22am

I wonder if Goodman will ever get past himself to get a feel for how many people see him as a complete fool and are laughing at him?

I also wonder if he realizes now that Bernie is working for Hillary HA Goodman may well now lose some of his gigs as a spokesman and critic?

In other words…your time is up! Goodbye.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:29:33am

re: #541 Timothy Watson

Used to have boards on his shoulders. That will help pull people from the GOP who often have excessive respect for the military.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:29:42am

re: #610 Dr. Matt

Teh Daily Caller: People Are Furious That Bernie Sanders Just Endorsed Hillary Clinton

LOL! This passes as actual journalism!?

You answered your own question. It’s Daily Caller and its headlies.

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:29:55am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:30:31am

re: #618 Kragar

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People who if Bernie was the nominee would be comparing him to Stalin, Mao, Hitler, etc too.

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Franklin  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:30:42am

re: #606 A Mom Anon

Sorry :(

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:31:08am

Wait NRO already did compare Bernie to Chavez and as much as my opinion on Bernie has changed, I still found that disgusting and pathetic given NRO’s own dictator love.

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Lidane  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:31:18am
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bratwurst  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:31:53am

ENOUGH ALREADY!

Holocaust Museum to visitors: Please stop catching Pokémon here

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:32:15am

re: #622 Lidane

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I still think Gohmert is Champ Kind +20 years and a name change but with Brick Tamland’s intelligence.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:32:51am

re: #606 A Mom Anon

{{{A Mom Anon}}}

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:33:15am

re: #623 bratwurst

ENOUGH ALREADY!

Holocaust Museum to visitors: Please stop catching Pokémon here

I don’t blame them.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:33:19am

re: #621 HappyWarrior

They’re OK with dictators as long as they’re right-wing.
I’d think people with a conscience would hate dictators regardless of their political orientation, but there you have it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:33:52am

re: #606 A Mom Anon

I think I’m done with Facebook. Just got called a stupid bitch. So, I changed my profile pic to a unicorn with a rainbow and deleted my community service posts (I had started a series about how to feel less helpless about bad things by doing good, yeah, no one gives a fuck). No one I know cares about a single fucking soul but themselves. I’m sad, but also angry. No one will miss me there anyway. I’ll keep the page open so I can see pics of the grandkids, but I’m done. I feel a ton worse every time I look at my fucking newsfeed and I realize more than ever that I don’t belong in GA anymore. I’d be better off spending my online time here and figuring out how to move the fuck out of here. Because if I wait on The Husband to do it I’ll be dead from old age.

I’m pissed off, but really fucking sad too. I really do not have friends who care about anything but their guns and taking shit from poor people. I went through the list, there are 3 people on it who aren’t right wing douchebags and none of them live near me. Fuck it.

Hang in there. I know how you feel a little. One of my good friends has gone completely balls to the walls right wing and it’s been depressing me honestly.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:33:58am

re: #623 bratwurst

waitwooot

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:34:35am

re: #627 Nyet

They’re OK with dictators as long as they’re right-wing.
I’d think people with a conscience would hate dictators regardless of their political orientation, but there you have it.

Well, you’re assuming the bigoted shit goblins that write NRO have consciences, that’s your mistake heh.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:36:37am

“I voted so hard for you” Bernie!!!

That is a completely new take on voting…never heard that one before.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:37:12am

re: #631 ObserverArt

“I voted so hard for you” Bernie!!!

That is a completely new take on voting…never heard that one before.

Vote Hard is the sequel to John C. Reilly’s Walk Hard.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:37:58am

re: #623 bratwurst

ENOUGH ALREADY!

Holocaust Museum to visitors: Please stop catching Pokémon here

WTF is wrong with ppl that they need to be TOLD not to do that shit in such a place? Are people really growing up these days without any sense of propriety?

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Lidane  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:39:30am

The GOP won’t even acknowledge that LGBT people have been killed by ISIS. They went with generic language about ISIS being a threat to the entire world instead. Ridiculous.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:39:39am

re: #631 ObserverArt

“I voted so hard for you” Bernie!!!

That is a completely new take on voting…never heard that one before.

You would NOT have wanted to enter the voting booth after he completed his “voting.”

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:40:22am
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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:40:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:41:04am

re: #562 GlutenFreeJesus

So, did Bernie actually endorse Hillary or was it more of a “Well guys. She’s going to be the nominee. There’s no way I can win. So.. Yeah.” kinda thing?

We cannot expect him to be overly enthusiastic about it, can we?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:41:45am

re: #615 ObserverArt

I wonder if Goodman will ever get past himself to get a feel for how many people see him as a complete fool and are laughing at him?

I also wonder if he realizes now that Bernie is working for Hillary HA Goodman may well now lose some of his gigs as a spokesman and critic?

In other words…your time is up! Goodbye.

Goodman, Shapiro, Rage Furby, all people who need to find gainful employment.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:42:14am

l. re: #637 Kragar

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I have a friend who lives in MA who explained that the part of Mass that Stein did run for office is one of the most liberal parts of the state. That she couldn’t get elected there said a lot to me.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:42:38am

re: #633 CuriousLurker

The same kind of people who need to be told not to play the game at Auschwitz or cemeteries, or outside police departments by laying in wait in bushes (especially after Dallas), or other areas that could prove hazardous to the player.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:42:48am
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Teukka  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:42:56am

re: #623 bratwurst

ENOUGH ALREADY!

Holocaust Museum to visitors: Please stop catching Pokémon here

Now, what would be a tounge-in-cheek way to respond to that… Is there something guaranteed to be lethal to Pokémons?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:43:14am

re: #636 Kragar

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That’s not how it works idiot. Go ahead, support Jill Stein who is a Putin apologist who doesn’t seem to mind racism towards immigrants as long as the people doing so are “economically frustrated.”

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:43:16am

re: #499 Dr. Matt

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Would you all think me terribly shallow if I mention that I really like Hill’s new haircut?

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:43:46am

Has anyone done a wellness check on Shaun King (I’m blocked so can’t tell whether he’s derping at more than the usual pace).

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:43:49am
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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:44:04am

re: #633 CuriousLurker

WTF is wrong with ppl that they need to be TOLD not to do that shit in such a place? Are people really growing up these days without any sense of propriety?

I have to ask…where would they learn?

(Not a dig at you CL…a dig at our parenting and education system. Add in how many people act in public that should know better and there is more to teach bad behavior than there is good. At last that how it seems to me…but then I was run through the Catholic school system that placed a lot of emphasis on behaving and respect.)

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:45:22am

re: #646 lawhawk

Has anyone done a wellness check on Shaun King (I’m blocked so can’t tell whether he’s derping at more than the usual pace).

Yeah, he didn’t write anything.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:45:40am

re: #647 Kragar

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Hey Dim Jim Hoft, about that “conservative” majority that legalized SSM. By the way, Heritage you bigots were complaining after Loving and guess what marriage wasn’t ruined then either. And your organization is filled with divorcees and adulterers so stop the fucking scapegoating of gay people already because they have the same rights you do you neanderthal bigots.

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Lidane  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:47:14am

*facepalm*

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:48:04am

re: #633 CuriousLurker

WTF is wrong with ppl that they need to be TOLD not to do that shit in such a place? Are people really growing up these days without any sense of propriety?

re: #648 ObserverArt

I have to ask…where would they learn?

(Not a dig at you CL…a dig at our parenting and education system. Add in how many people act in public that should know better and there is more to teach bad behavior than there is good. At last that how it seems to me…but then I was run through the Catholic school system that placed a lot of emphasis on behaving and respect.)

Just my $.02, but with the homicidal hatred being pumped up against various “out” groups in society, people become desensitized…
genocidewatch.net

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:48:50am

re: #643 Teukka

Now, what would be a tounge-in-cheek way to respond to that… Is there something guaranteed to be lethal to Pokémons?

Niantic could pretty easily make certain areas dead zones for the game. For solemn places like that, I think they should.

But that won’t stop uncouth morons from trying, which is the real problem.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:49:12am

re: #651 Lidane

converting serial monogamists and wife-cheaters to become faithful partners?

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:51:29am

re: #587 lizardofid

I was just reminded of an incident. I think it was around 2002 (definitely after 9/11) and I was working at a store about 1/2 block away from Love Field on Mockingbird Lane. Bush was in town at a fundraising luncheon and AF2 was at Love Field. Images on my computer screen started “twitching” (the best way I can describe it), like there was some sort of static interference or something. Seconds later, there was a huge *BOOM* and what sounded like something landing on the roof of the store. All the employees ran outside to check and while we were talking with neighbors about the noise, AF2 took off within a couple minutes of the loud noise. We turned on the TV in the store and Bush was on the news, with a banner that said “Live from ________” (whatever hotel he was speaking at). We all knew it wasn’t live because we had just watched AF2 take off. There was never any news about the boom we all heard, and no news stories about the president leaving in a big hurry right after it. Maybe the two weren’t related but it sure seemed so to us at the time.

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:51:35am

OK another longyish berniebro comment, but I’ll be phasing this thing out so I’ll put it under spoiler.

Click to Reveal

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:26pm — dkmich
Well this has certainly changed my opinion of Bernie.
Who and what is he loyal to? Which promises are more important than others? There are things that piss me off. 1. All of the people who couldn’t afford to send him money and did anyway.
2. All of the disappointed and disillusioned young people that trusted him and saw him as a role model. 3. If the issues were important enough for him to challenge her, then they are still important enough for him to fight for them to the bitter end - especially since she stole our election, is corrupt and a liar, is absolutely not what the country needs, and everyone hates her and Trump.

I am disappointed that he quit. We needed a revolutionary. Someone who would rather die on their feet than live on their knees. Apparently he isn’t it.

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:51:36am

re: #651 Lidane

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:51:40am

re: #653 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Niantic could pretty easily make certain areas dead zones for the game. For solemn places like that, I think they should.

But that won’t stop uncouth morons from trying, which is the real problem.

I am waiting on some idiot to try jumping the White House fence to try to get a Mew or something.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:52:21am

Two secret names…. right.

Those are the two people who come out for the special challenge in the final round. Oh wait, you mean this isn’t some scripted reality tv show?

But as far who it might be? Ivanka comes to mind. The other could be Melania for all we know.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:52:42am

re: #607 Nyet

“I voted so hard for you”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOL

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:53:27am

re: #659 lawhawk

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Two secret names…. right.

Those are the two people who come out for the special challenge in the final round. Oh wait, you mean this isn’t some scripted reality tv show?

But as far who it might be? Ivanka comes to mind. The other could be Melania for all we know.

John Barron and John Miller

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:54:36am

re: #645 sagehen

Would you all think me terribly shallow if I mention that I really like Hill’s new haircut?

I didn’t even notice. Good call though. Nice style. Looks good on her.

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:55:56am

re: #653 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Niantic could pretty easily make certain areas dead zones for the game. For solemn places like that, I think they should.

But that won’t stop uncouth morons from trying, which is the real problem.

Well, I can come to think of two other things, but they are not NSFW, nor NSFS (Not safe for sanity):

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:57:48am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:58:41am
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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:58:47am

Hail Santa (A Year Zero Parody)

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lizardofid  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:58:49am

re: #655 Flying Squirrel Girl

I was just reminded of an incident. I think it was around 2002 (definitely after 9/11) and I was working at a store about 1/2 block away from Love Field on Mockingbird Lane. Bush was in town at a fundraising luncheon and AF2 was at Love Field. Images on my computer screen started “twitching” (the best way I can describe it), like there was some sort of static interference or something. Seconds later, there was a huge *BOOM* and what sounded like something landing on the roof of the store. All the employees ran outside to check and while we were talking with neighbors about the noise, AF2 took off within a couple minutes of the loud noise. We turned on the TV in the store and Bush was on the news, with a banner that said “Live from ________” (whatever hotel he was speaking at). We all knew it wasn’t live because we had just watched AF2 take off. There was never any news about the boom we all heard, and no news stories about the president leaving in a big hurry right after it. Maybe the two weren’t related but it sure seemed so to us at the time.

That is odd for sure. It would be interesting to know the whole story.

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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:59:08am

re: #653 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Niantic could pretty easily make certain areas dead zones for the game. For solemn places like that, I think they should.

But that won’t stop uncouth morons from trying, which is the real problem.

Was listening to LeBatard this morning and they had Ron McGill from Zoo Miami on (regular segment on the show) and he mentioned that they’ve had incidents where visitors at the zoo are wandering into restricted areas chasing Pokemon. It’s all fun and games until somebody gets mauled by a grizzly bear.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:59:24am

re: #651 Lidane

*facepalm*

[Embedded content]

“Conversion therapy” is so harmful that even the infamously homophobic Southern Baptist Convention has denounced it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 10:59:26am

re: #659 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Two secret names…. right.

Those are the two people who come out for the special challenge in the final round. Oh wait, you mean this isn’t some scripted reality tv show?

But as far who it might be? Ivanka comes to mind. The other could be Melania for all we know.

He is media savvy enough to know that this will keep things focused on him.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:00:35am

re: #572 lawhawk

Just got spam from Trump campaign for a chance to win a trip to the RNC. Now that’s some weapon’s grade irony considering that I just tweeted that a bunch of his former rivals in the GOP primaries wont attend, and none of the former GOP presidents (GHWB, GWB) will be in attendance.

Recent nominees (Romney, McCain) also won’t be there, nor will the Republican governor of the State where it’s taking place (Kasich).

Jeff Flake’s excuse is a pretty good one (“I have to mow my lawn”); but I hereby pledge $100 donation to the first Republican who announces they can’t go because they’ll be at Comic-Con.

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Lidane  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:00:59am
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Jenner7  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:01:31am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:01:46am

re: #659 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Two secret names…. right.

Those are the two people who come out for the special challenge in the final round. Oh wait, you mean this isn’t some scripted reality tv show?

But as far who it might be? Ivanka comes to mind. The other could be Melania for all we know.

I’m guessing Omarosa.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:01:51am

re: #655 Flying Squirrel Girl

If POTUS were on board, it would be AF1, not AF2. If the top ranking official on board were the VP, it would be AF2.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:03:28am
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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:04:05am

re: #671 sagehen

Recent nominees (Romney, McCain) also won’t be there, nor will the Republican governor of the State where it’s taking place (Kasich).

Jeff Flake’s excuse is a pretty good one (“I have to mow my lawn”); but I hereby pledge $100 donation to the first Republican who announces they can’t go because they’ll be at Comic-Con.

A preview of the Republican convention:

(that’s a multi-layered joke)
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:04:22am

re: #676 lawhawk

Two speaker who will not be present at the GOP convention…

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:05:06am

re: #659 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Two secret names…. right.

Those are the two people who come out for the special challenge in the final round. Oh wait, you mean this isn’t some scripted reality tv show?

But as far who it might be? Ivanka comes to mind. The other could be Melania for all we know.

Jared Kushner.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:06:05am

re: #665 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

Always have a pole in your car. Smart advice.

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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:06:57am

re: #659 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Two secret names…. right.

Those are the two people who come out for the special challenge in the final round. Oh wait, you mean this isn’t some scripted reality tv show?

But as far who it might be? Ivanka comes to mind. The other could be Melania for all we know.

Two secret names, meaning: two people who will not be properly vetted? Yeah, what could possibly go wrong given Trump’s decades-long track record?

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:07:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:07:12am

re: #680 Stanley Sea

Always have a pole in your car. Smart advice.

never know when you will get stuck on a bridge or stranded by water

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:07:55am

Missed this NYr cover. Very cute!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:07:59am

re: #675 lawhawk

If POTUS were on board, it would be AF1, not AF2. If the top ranking official on board were the VP, it would be AF2.

When Trump is POTUS, he’ll go all Elvis like and name the official POTUS jet the “Melania Trump”.

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Kragar  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:08:29am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:09:21am

re: #676 lawhawk

Good of W to be there.

Tough thread for Obama to walk here given the blame wingnuts assign him for all cop killings but especially these ones.

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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:10:28am

re: #686 Kragar

MERKKA! FUKC YEAH!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:10:40am

Needs more bacon, but still looks awesome:

Instagram

W🍔W‼️ photo credit: @holadeya

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:11:11am

re: #689 Dr. Matt

drool

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:11:41am

re: #682 Nyet

bought and paid for by 1% on Wall Street. Death to the bankers.

/

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Lidane  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:11:44am

re: #686 Kragar

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:14:05am

re: #686 Kragar

‘My ancestors owned your ass’: Angry Texas couple yells black teen ‘does not belong in America’

This is what a Trump America will look like on a daily and hourly basis. But, yeah, go ahead and vote for Jill Stein or write-in Bernie…..

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Alephnaught  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:14:58am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t expect to grab any of these apartments for cheap anytime soon.

[Embedded content]

From the article- someone of quoted as saying:

“The global misperception was that the demand would be endless”

It’s been less than a decade since that opinion was last proved wrong on a global scale. These investors must have the memory of a goldfish.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:16:27am

re: #655 Flying Squirrel Girl

There was never any news about the boom we all heard, and no news stories about the president leaving in a big hurry right after it. Maybe the two weren’t related but it sure seemed so to us at the time.

Sonic boom from a military fly-by?

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:18:34am

I think we should set up a Fundamental Christian conversion therapy program.

Let’s see if we can turn some of the fundies’ back into human beings with actual Christian tendencies like compassion love and goodwill.

Right now the fundies are causing a lot of undue hurt on people that just want to live their lives. They are a bad example for this country and its future.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:20:41am

re: #623 bratwurst

From the article:

“It’s not like we came here to play,” said Angie, a 37-year-old member of Dustin’s group who also declined to share her last name for privacy reasons, “But gotta catch ‘em all.”

———-

Sigh…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:24:16am

re: #686 Kragar

My ancestors owned your ass!

And my ancestors defeated you in a war!

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:25:25am

re: #698 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And my ancestors defeated you in a war!

My ancestors went Biblical on yours… /

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 12, 2016 • 11:56:15am

re: #675 lawhawk

Never thought about that!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2016 • 12:01:44pm

re: #606 A Mom Anon

You can be my friend on Facebook. Even though eastern Kentucky isn’t close to you, I have good friends on FB (from all over the world) you may like a lot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2016 • 12:04:46pm

re: #640 HappyWarrior

l.

I have a friend who lives in MA who explained that the part of Mass that Stein did run for office is one of the most liberal parts of the state. That she couldn’t get elected there said a lot to me.

But we were all informed by the extreme berners a long time ago that liberals are not progressives….

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2016 • 1:52:07pm

re: #651 Lidane

*facepalm*

Family Research Council Prez Tony Perkins Pushes for GOP to Embrace ‘Conversion Therapy’ bit.ly

The GOP should convert into a Shriners drill team.

Moolah Shriners Circus Parade


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