They’ll Be Dancing the Benghazi Boogaloo at Opening Night of the RNC

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It’s going to be the most bizarre Republican convention ever — and yet, in a way the most predictable: Speakers at Donald Trump’s Convention: An Astronaut, a Quarterback, but No Sarah Palin.

Featuring an entire night devoted to the Republican Party’s endlessly absurd obsession with… BENGHAZI!

CLEVELAND — A night highlighting the tragedy in Benghazi, Libya. An appearance by onetime football star Tim Tebow. A presentation detailing former President Bill Clinton’s sexual misconduct.

Donald J. Trump, the presumptive nominee, has been promising a different kind of Republican National Convention, and plans obtained by The New York Times show that he is eager to put his showbiz stamp on the party’s gathering, even as he struggles to attract A-list talent.

[…]

Night 1: A Benghazi focus, followed by border patrol agents and Mr. Shaw, whose son was killed by an undocumented immigrant. Senator Cotton, Mr. Giuliani, Melania Trump, Ms. Ernst and others.

Night 2: A focus on the economy: Mr. White, president of the U.F.C.; Asa Hutchinson, the governor of Arkansas; Michael Mukasey, the former United States attorney general; Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, a vice-presidential possibility; Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader; Tiffany Trump; Donald Trump Jr. and Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

Night 3: Ms. Bondi; Ms. Collins; Newt Gingrich, a former House speaker; Senator Ted Cruz of Texas; Eric Trump; Ms. Gulbis; and the nominee for vice president.

Night 4: Mr. Tebow; Representative Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee; Gov. Mary Fallin of Oklahoma; Reince Priebus, the Republican National Committee chairman; Gov. Rick Scott of Florida; Mr. Thiel; Mr. Barrack; Ivanka Trump; Donald J. Trump.

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1
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:21:21pm

Wow, they’re actually bringing Tiffany out.

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bratwurst  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:21:34pm

How are they going to have Benghazi night without Romney smirking over 4 dead Americans?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:21:42pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:22:53pm

Rage Furby has posted the first draft of Obama’s Dreams from My Father online.

Waiting to see how long it takes for a C&D letter to arrive in his mailbox for copyright infringement.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:25:09pm

I wonder how this farce is playing overseas? Can they even believe it? Would a country that even claims to be civilized actually allow mutually antagonistic armed mobs to essentially surround the most important public event on the calendar?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:25:49pm

OT but needed

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TedStriker  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:27:12pm
Night 4: Mr. Tebow; Representative Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee; Gov. Mary Fallin of Oklahoma; Reince Priebus, the Republican National Committee chairman; Gov. Rick Scott of Florida; Mr. Thiel; Mr. Barrack; Ivanka Trump; Donald J. Trump

Oh, god, they’ve penciled in one of my state’s wingnut reps.

*looks at entire roster and hurls*

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:27:29pm

So, Sarah or no Sarah?

And poor Melania. Slotted to close on Bengazi night. Or open?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:27:53pm

As already said. More Benghazi investigations than there was for 9/11 and indeed even more Benghazi investigations than people who died that day. I bet Stevens’ family and the other families are tired of seeing their loved ones reduced to victims of a cheap political attack by a party who doesn’t give a shit about what happened to them but only seeks to exploit their deaths for political purposes. It’s yet another vile chapter in the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:28:40pm

re: #7 TedStriker

Oh, god, they’ve penciled in one of my state’s wingnut reps.

*looks at entire roster and hurls*

Ah the genius who bragged about the minimum wage was “only” 2.10 when she was working it and didn’t consider a little thing called inflation. Nice one GOP.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:29:30pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

I wonder how this farce is playing overseas? Can they even believe it? Would a country that even claims to be civilized actually allow mutually antagonistic armed mobs to essentially surround the most important public event on the calendar?

They aren’t even going to close the bars and liquor stores either.

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insert_funny  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:36:26pm

This is great. It’s going to be wonderful seeing the Republicans tout how out of touch they are, live and in prime time.

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TedStriker  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:36:49pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Ah the genius who bragged about the minimum wage was “only” 2.10 when she was working it and didn’t consider a little thing called inflation. Nice one GOP.

I think that I found something, besides the talk about her being a potential Trump VP pick that was thrown around at CPAC this year, that helps explain why Rep. Blackburn’s getting some prime-time facetime at the convention:

WASHINGTON — A Tennessee congresswoman is asking the FBI and other federal agencies to open a “public corruption” investigation into the activities of the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

Republican Rep. Marsha Blackburn is circulating a letter among House members saying media reports raise significant questions about the foundation’s practices and their intersection with American foreign policy.

USA Today: Rep. Marsha Blackburn seeks probe of Clinton Foundation

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Kilroy01  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:37:09pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

I wonder how this farce is playing overseas? Can they even believe it? Would a country that even claims to be civilized actually allow mutually antagonistic armed mobs to essentially surround the most important public event on the calendar?

As long as they all wear their brown shirts it should be fine.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:38:10pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

I wonder how this farce is playing overseas? Can they even believe it? Would a country that even claims to be civilized actually allow mutually antagonistic armed mobs to essentially surround the most important public event on the calendar?

That’s a damn good question. Perhaps our “civilized” nature has regressed. I hope not.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:38:13pm

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BeachDem  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:47:54pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

OT but needed

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:50:41pm

re: #17 BeachDem

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:54:52pm

Chuck is now claiming his “police sources” in MN tell him the tax stamps on Lavish Reynolds’ Newports match the ones that were stolen from a convenience store, so that means Philando Castile was the robber!!11ty!!

So how would the store owner know which cigs had which tax stamps? That makes no sense to me..

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:58:19pm

re: #19 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

how do we even know his (kinda retro) racist assumption of newports is even real?

Edit, oh she was smoking at the first presser.

He’s sooo racist I can’t even anymore.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2016 • 9:59:40pm

re: #19 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What. The. Fuck?!?
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:00:25pm

So who’s the astronaut? The only possibilities in that list are “Ms. Collins” and “Ms. Gulbis”. The only “Ms. Gulbis” I can find is a Latvian tennis player, and I hope it’s not Eileen Collins….

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:02:30pm

re: #22 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s Eileen Collins

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:02:49pm

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:03:30pm

re: #19 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Chuck is now claiming his “police sources” in MN tell him the tax stamps on Lavish Reynolds’ Newports match the ones that were stolen from a convenience store, so that means Philando Castile was the robber!!11ty!!

So how would the store owner know which cigs had which tax stamps? That makes no sense to me..

Can you imagine what a hellpit the inside of that kid’s head must be? Imagine futzing around all day on cop forums, hung over, working together “proof” that (black guy X) is just another n-r so you can… triumphantly… post on the internet..? I guess? While your wife pays the bills? Hooray.

Imagine being perpetually 14 years old, but with all the bills of adulthood, and everybody who’s ever met you hopes you die in a car accident for the good of the world as a whole. He must have to keep busy, because the alternative would be death by Old Crow with nobody finding his body for two weeks.

If he wasn’t a doxing shitcock, with a workable resume that he could turn into Good instead of Evil, I’d almost feel a little bad for him. Almost.

As it stands, I hope magic is real and he wakes up on Election Day as a single black woman mother in rural Alabama.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:04:35pm

re: #23 Ziggy_TARDIS

It’s Eileen Collins

Shit!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:05:53pm

Love that cartoon up top, anyway.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:06:10pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:07:26pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

TY

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:08:26pm

Gulbis is I believe Natalie, a golfer who was on the celeb apprentice. Funnily enough, she used to date Ben Roethlisberger who Trump wanted to speak.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:09:27pm

re: #13 TedStriker

I think that I found something, besides the talk about her being a potential Trump VP pick that was thrown around at CPAC this year, that helps explain why Rep. Blackburn’s getting some prime-time facetime at the convention:

USA Today: Rep. Marsha Blackburn seeks probe of Clinton Foundation

That makes sense.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:10:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:15:21pm

Anyhow I’m interested in seeing who the Dems get. Should be an impressive bunch.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:15:37pm

I might actually like this version better than the original.

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blueraven  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:16:04pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:16:27pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

Anyhow I’m interested in seeing who the Dems get. Should be an impressive bunch.

What’s funny/sad is the GOP is very impressed by this line up.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:17:09pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

I wonder how this farce is playing overseas? Can they even believe it? Would a country that even claims to be civilized actually allow mutually antagonistic armed mobs to essentially surround the most important public event on the calendar?

Oh, I’m getting e-mails from my friends in Europe who are just in awe of the blob on insanity the Republican Party has become. A pal from England e-mailed that by the end of next week, Britain won’t be the butt of jokes anymore thanks to Trump and the “Insane Arseholes” running the Republican Party…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:19:24pm

re: #37 Joe Bacon

Oh, I’m getting e-mails from my friends in Europe who are just in awe of the blob on insanity the Republican Party has become. A pal from England e-mailed that by the end of next week, Britain won’t be the butt of jokes anymore thanks to Trump and the “Insane Arseholes” running the Republican Party…

My cousin in the UK says if we elect Trump or it’s even close it will ruin a lot of our credibility in the works.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:19:51pm

re: #19 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Chuck is now claiming his “police sources” in MN tell him the tax stamps on Lavish Reynolds’ Newports match the ones that were stolen from a convenience store, so that means Philando Castile was the robber!!11ty!!

So how would the store owner know which cigs had which tax stamps? That makes no sense to me..

I got a feeling that those “police sources” are in Ginger Snapped’s head…

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majii  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:20:40pm

re: #25 Pawn of the Oppressor

“As it stands, I hope magic is real and he wakes up on Election Day as a single black woman mother in rural Alabama [ in 1940.]

He’d leap out of bed, look at his skin and go nuts trying to convince others that he’s really a white man. This idea would make a very good episode of the Twilight Zone, and I think if Rod Serling were still around, he’d probably write the screenplay and produce it. In reading his bio, I discovered that he hated racism and discrimination and wanted to include episodes in his his series about racism and discrimination, but the network bigwigs thought it was “not appropriate.”

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KGxvi  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:22:06pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

So, Sarah or no Sarah?

And poor Melania. Slotted to close on Bengazi night. Or open?

What’s everyone talking about, “no Sarah Palin”? She’s right there, to close out night three:

Night 3: Ms. Bondi; Ms. Collins; Newt Gingrich, a former House speaker; Senator Ted Cruz of Texas; Eric Trump; Ms. Gulbis; and the nominee for vice president.

Alas, I do not believe the gods love us so much.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:23:03pm

re: #40 majii

“As it stands, I hope magic is real and he wakes up on Election Day as a single black woman mother in rural Alabama [ in 1940.] He’d leap out of bed, look at his skin and go nuts trying to convince others that he’s really a white man. This idea would make a very good episode of the Twilight Zone, and I think if Rod Serling were still around, he’d probably write the screenplay and produce it. In reading his bio, I discovered that he hated racism and discrimination and wanted to include episodes in his his series about racism and discrimination, but the network bigwigs thought it was “not appropriate.”

That would be brilliant.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:23:25pm

re: #20 Stanley Sea

how do we even know his (kinda retro) racist assumption of newports is even real?

Edit, oh she was smoking at the first presser.

He’s sooo racist I can’t even anymore.

There’s a photo of her clutching a pack on the Internet. He’s also tried posting video on YT of her supposedly smoking weed in the car while her daughter is in it, but YT has taken those down and now Rage Furby is all butthurt about it.

Really, he just trying to pile on every stereotypic behavior of African-Americans he can find to poison the image of Castile and Reynolds within the RWNJ universe.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:23:31pm

For what it’s worth, here’s what a Minnesota Cigarette Tax Stamp looks like. When I lived in Pennsylvania, cigarette tax stamps were put on packs when they got to wholesalers. If Minnesota works the same way, there’s no way in hell Ginger Snapped’s allegation can be proven!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:23:34pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

What’s funny/sad is the GOP is very impressed by this line up.

I bet.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:24:59pm

re: #43 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There’s a photo of her clutching a pack on the Internet. He’s also tried posting video on YT of her supposedly smoking weed in the car while her daughter is in it, but YT has taken those down and now Rage Furby is all butthurt about it.

Really, he just trying to pile on every stereotypic behavior of African-Americans he can find to poison the image of Castile and Reynolds within the RWNJ universe.

Karma is going to get him. It’s only a matter of time but Karma will bite Ginger Snapped in the ass and he’s gonna wind up pushing a cart in Skid Row.

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PeterWolf  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:25:15pm

Perhaps I am just naive but, I can’t figure out what qualifications the Trump family members have that makes them credible speakers at such an event. Still, I suppose someone has to keep the rest of the world laughing.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:25:15pm

re: #37 Joe Bacon

Oh, I’m getting e-mails from my friends in Europe who are just in awe of the blob on insanity the Republican Party has become. A pal from England e-mailed that by the end of next week, Britain won’t be the butt of jokes anymore thanks to Trump and the “Insane Arseholes” running the Republican Party…

Read Josh Marshall’s @joshtpm timeline right now for his view on the breakdown of the UK. Not positive review. I really no idea, but Boris?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:25:58pm

re: #43 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There’s a photo of her clutching a pack on the Internet. He’s also tried posting video on YT of her supposedly smoking weed in the car while her daughter is in it, but YT has taken those down and now Rage Furby is all butthurt about it.

Really, he just trying to pile on every stereotypic behavior of African-Americans he can find to poison the image of Castile and Reynolds within the RWNJ universe.

Even if all that is true, it doesn’t justify what happened. So sick of this bullshit that if people commit crimes, they deserve anything bad that happens to them. Dylann Roof got taken to Burger along after he killed black church goers in cold blood.

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majii  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:26:21pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

I don’t think it’s funny or sad, not when I think of how proud they were of Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair in 2012. Now, that was weird.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:27:21pm

Rage Furby’s influence, so to speak, can be seen if you google “cigarette tax stamp philando castile.” Scores of results pop up, all parroting his GotNewsDotCom article. So, he’s managed to get this lie out established as RWNJ canon.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:28:08pm

re: #50 majii

I don’t think it’s funny or sad, not when I think of how proud they were of Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair in 2012. Now, that was weird.

They thought it was a game changer. I felt sorry for Eastwood. He made a fool out of himself.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:28:31pm

re: #40 majii

“As it stands, I hope magic is real and he wakes up on Election Day as a single black woman mother in rural Alabama [ in 1940.] He’d leap out of bed, look at his skin and go nuts trying to convince others that he’s really a white man. This idea would make a very good episode of the Twilight Zone, and I think if Rod Serling were still around, he’d probably write the screenplay and produce it. In reading his bio, I discovered that he hated racism and discrimination and wanted to include episodes in his his series about racism and discrimination, but the network bigwigs thought it was “not appropriate.”

Yasssssssssssss

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KGxvi  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:28:56pm

re: #47 PeterWolf

Perhaps I am just naive but, I can’t figure out what qualifications the Trump family members have that makes them credible speakers at such an event. Still, I suppose someone has to keep the rest of the world laughing.

My guess is that Invanka will give the speech introducing Donald as the nominee. That is probably slightly different than normal, usually it goes to someone in office. The spouse of the nominee typically gives a speech though, so it makes sense that Melinna is speaking.

As for the other Trumps, either blatant nepotism (the Trump brand way) or scraping the bottom of the barrel because nobody else was willing to speak.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:29:29pm

re: #43 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There’s a photo of her clutching a pack on the Internet. He’s also tried posting video on YT of her supposedly smoking weed in the car while her daughter is in it, but YT has taken those down and now Rage Furby is all butthurt about it.

Really, he just trying to pile on every stereotypic behavior of African-Americans he can find to poison the image of Castile and Reynolds within the RWNJ universe.

He’s a comical racist. But any racist is a danger.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:30:15pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

Read Josh Marshall’s @joshtpm timeline right now for his view on the breakdown of the UK. Not positive review. I really no idea, but Boris?

I have to hand it to Theresa May. She’s making ol’ BJ eat his words since she put him on the front line.

He won’t last till Christmas as Foreign Secretary. He’s a f’n laughingstock!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:30:46pm

re: #47 PeterWolf

Perhaps I am just naive but, I can’t figure out what qualifications the Trump family members have that makes them credible speakers at such an event. Still, I suppose someone has to keep the rest of the world laughing.

TRUMP is TRUMP and the offspring are TRUMP so they count.

Seriously, this is a fucking branding show.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:30:52pm

Rod Serling was very much anti McCarthy. Brilliant tv mind who died too young.

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majii  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:31:18pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

I didn’t feel bad for Clint Eastwood because I’d always suspected he was a mean, old *sshole. Talking to that chair proved how spiteful and deranged he can be when it comes to politics. I put James Woods in the same category as CE. They’re both mean, old *ssholes who think their sh*t doesn’t stink.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:32:18pm

re: #51 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Rage Furby’s influence, so to speak, can be seen if you google “cigarette tax stamp philando castile.” Scores of results pop up, all parroting his GotNewsDotCom article. So, he’s managed to get this lie out established as RWNJ canon.

Circular racism. I wonder if this is on the agenda with POTUS & the committee.

Ya’ll, it’s so deep.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:33:01pm

re: #44 Joe Bacon

For what it’s worth, here’s what a Minnesota Cigarette Tax Stamp looks like. When I lived in Pennsylvania, cigarette tax stamps were put on packs when they got to wholesalers. If Minnesota works the same way, there’s no way in hell Ginger Snapped’s allegation can be proven!

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Thanks for finding that. If the MN stamp had a barcode or QR code, and if the retailer scanned every single one for inventory/tax purposes, I could imagine tracking would be possible. I don’t see either in that photo.

But, even if Reynolds’ pack of Newports had a tax stamp matching ones that were stolen, it’s still very circumstantial evidence and probably not admissible in court. Not that Rage Furby cares about due process for black people. He only cries “due process” when some white college boy get charged with sexual assault or rape.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:35:42pm

re: #59 majii

I didn’t feel bad for Clint Eastwood because I’d always suspected he was a mean, old *sshole. Talking to that chair proved how spiteful and deranged he can be when it comes to politics. I put James Woods in the same category as CE. They’re both mean, old *ssholes who think their sh*t doesn’t stink.

Eastwood for some reason in some ways always reminded me of my mom’s dad. I can see what you mean. In any case, it still amuses me that his rant was supposed to this big surprise that would ruin Obama and it was just a bitter old man yelling at an invisible Obama which quite frankly sums up the GOP.

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KGxvi  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:38:01pm

re: #59 majii

I didn’t feel bad for Clint Eastwood because I’d always suspected he was a mean, old *sshole. Talking to that chair proved how spiteful and deranged he can be when it comes to politics. I put James Woods in the same category as CE. They’re both mean, old *ssholes who think their sh*t doesn’t stink.

Eastwood has actually had a somewhat interesting life in politics. He was elected mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea (a very small town in California) and has served on the State Park and Recreation Commission. He’s actually been an advocate for gun control since the 70s, is pro-choice and pro-marriage - basically he was a libertarian that tended to vote Republican but also supported Democrats.

I’ve still no idea what befell him that led to that speech in 2012.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:38:16pm

re: #61 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks for finding that. If the MN stamp had a barcode or QR code, and if the retailer scanned every single one for inventory/tax purposes, I could imagine tracking would be possible. I don’t see either in that photo.

But, even if Reynolds’ pack of Newports had a tax stamp matching ones that were stolen, it’s still very circumstantial evidence and probably not admissible in court. Not that Rage Furby cares about due process for black people. He only cries “due process” when some white college boy get charged with sexual assault or rape.

Stolen cigarettes doesn’t justify killing someone in any case. The way Rage Furby thinks is twisted and evil and something out of a totalitarian hellhole.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:39:58pm

re: #63 KGxvi

Eastwood has actually had a somewhat interesting life in politics. He was elected mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea (a very small town in California) and has served on the State Park and Recreation Commission. He’s actually been an advocate for gun control since the 70s, is pro-choice and pro-marriage - basically he was a libertarian that tended to vote Republican but also supported Democrats.

I’ve still no idea what befell him that led to that speech in 2012.

See that’s why I was surprised he strongly backed Romney. I knew about that. As I said, I have a small soft spot for him since he reminds me of my one grandpa who had a similar personality but who wouldn’t be caught dead at the RNC.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:40:46pm

Looking at MN regulations, it seems the wholesales and subjobbers have to keep inventory of tax stamps, not the retailer. If I’m understanding the law correctly, the retailer is not responsible for inventory of tax stamps. So, how would the police know which Newports were stolen and which were sold?

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:42:35pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, how would the police know which Newports were stolen and which were sold?

They don’t. And this is another case of UpChuck being a racist piece of shit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:44:11pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

They don’t. And this is another case of UpChuck being a racist piece of shit.

Yup, pretty much. And at this point, he’s done the damage he wants. Trying to convince his followers he’s full of shit is pointless.

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KGxvi  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:44:30pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

See that’s why I was surprised he strongly backed Romney. I knew about that. As I said, I have a small soft spot for him since he reminds me of my one grandpa who had a similar personality but who wouldn’t be caught dead at the RNC.

He did admit later that he’d have preferred a do-over on the improved speech:

“My only message was [that] I wanted people to take the idolizing factor out of every contestant out there. Just look at the work, look at the background, and then make a judgment on that. I was just trying to say that, and did it in kind of a roundabout way which took a lot more time, I suppose, than they would have liked.”

Again, I don’t know why he didn’t like Obama or why he endorsed Romney. And that reasoning seems rather strange for a speech in 2012 - it’d be slightly understandable in 2008, but in 2012 with Obama already in office, it just seems… off.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:45:02pm

Let’s lut it this way. People like RF think that the guy in Oregon was executed by the police even though he charged armed at the police while anything a black person has ever done bad in their life justifies deadly force. He’s a racist little shit and to expand on the idea of him waking up a 1940 single black mother in Georgia, I’d extend that to antebellum Georgia as a woman slave forced against her will to sleep with her master. He had no perspective at all and has never met a smear that he hasn’t liked.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:47:26pm

re: #69 KGxvi

He did admit later that he’d have preferred a do-over on the improved speech:

Again, I don’t know why he didn’t like Obama or why he endorsed Romney. And that reasoning seems rather strange for a speech in 2012 - it’d be slightly understandable in 2008, but in 2012 with Obama already in office, it just seems… off.

As I said he embarrassed himself. It was bizarre. I still like his movies though. Glad he appears to be staying away from Trump.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:50:27pm

So they are going to spend the first night focusing on Bill Clinton and his (known) marital infidelities?

And they expect this to take away votes from Hillary?

I realize the only hope the Drumpfskind machine has is to stir up the wingnut base into a froth to try and get them to the voting booth, but something tells me that a whole lot of women in this country will be driven more to sympathy for Hillary by this GOP showcase of hate.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:50:36pm

I just can’t get over that Trump is an actual nominee. I mean a candidate was insane enough but they’re actually gonna nominate this ass clown.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:52:10pm

re: #72 freetoken

So they are going to spend the first night focusing on Bill Clinton and his (known) marital infidelities?

And they expect this to take away votes from Hillary?

I realize the only hope the Drumpfskind machine has is to stir up the wingnut base into a froth to try and get them to the voting booth, but something tells me that a whole lot of women in this country will be driven more to sympathy for Hillary by this GOP showcase of hate.

Women ultimately will be why Trump won’t be president. The GOP has no idea how obnoxious he is to most women even conservative leaning ones.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:52:43pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

The day that McCain nominated Palin should have been the sign that the wheels are coming off the Grand Old Party.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:53:04pm

I looked at the comments. Don’t look at the comments.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:58:02pm

re: #63 KGxvi

Eastwood has actually had a somewhat interesting life in politics. He was elected mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea (a very small town in California) and has served on the State Park and Recreation Commission. He’s actually been an advocate for gun control since the 70s, is pro-choice and pro-marriage - basically he was a libertarian that tended to vote Republican but also supported Democrats.

I’ve still no idea what befell him that led to that speech in 2012.

Carmel by the Sea. I’ve helped with some construction work there. Small town, yeah. Average net worth 800 million or something.

Sooooo wealthy. Such an enclave.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:59:02pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Looking at MN regulations, it seems the wholesales and subjobbers have to keep inventory of tax stamps, not the retailer. If I’m understanding the law correctly, the retailer is not responsible for inventory of tax stamps. So, how would the police know which Newports were stolen and which were sold?

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It’s a fucking racist attack. No need to debunk.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 10:59:25pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

But I appreciate your doggedness.

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majii  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:00:38pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I just read an article at Addicting info which shows that Catholics are also rejecting Trump’s BS. According to the latest Pew Poll, HRC has a 17 point advantage over Trump with Catholic voters. When someone in his campaign tells him about this poll, I expect him to say, “The Catholics, they love me, they just love me.”
addictinginfo.org

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:00:42pm

re: #72 freetoken

So they are going to spend the first night focusing on Bill Clinton and his (known) marital infidelities?

And they expect this to take away votes from Hillary?

I realize the only hope the Drumpfskind machine has is to stir up the wingnut base into a froth to try and get them to the voting booth, but something tells me that a whole lot of women in this country will be driven more to sympathy for Hillary by this GOP showcase of hate.

Especially when 3rd wife closes the ceremonies.

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:01:54pm

Devil’s Love Song

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:06:25pm

re: #72 freetoken

So they are going to spend the first night focusing on Bill Clinton and his (known) marital infidelities?

And they expect this to take away votes from Hillary?

I realize the only hope the Drumpfskind machine has is to stir up the wingnut base into a froth to try and get them to the voting booth, but something tells me that a whole lot of women in this country will be driven more to sympathy for Hillary by this GOP showcase of hate.

They got them into a froth about gay marriage in 2004 and got them to the voting booth. That’s why a dead heat turned into a Bush victory. They’re always in a froth now and they always vote. That well is dry.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:06:28pm

re: #79 Stanley Sea

But I appreciate your doggedness.

Thanks. I’ve sent emails to the MN Dept. of Revenue to clarify tax stamp inventory keeping. We’ll see if I get a response tomorrow.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:11:53pm

The Cat Chronicals.

She loves paper. For a treat I give her a sheet of paper towel. She tears it up in like :49

Is this bad?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:17:02pm

From a GOP person tweet:

Dems reject him b/c he’s a dangerous sociopath.
GOP should reject him b/c he’s not actually conservative.

Really. This is what we are up against.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:18:57pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

The Cat Chronicals.

She loves paper. For a treat I give her a sheet of paper towel. She tears it up in like :49

Is this bad?

I had a dog as a teeanger who loved tearing up paper. If you left any piece of paper on the floor, he’d find it and rip it to shreds. I guess he liked the sound of it. My dad was an electronics repairman. The dog would also chew resistors that happened to land on the floor.

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freetoken  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:20:08pm

So Dana White of UFC is going to speak for Drumpfskind?

Not surprised, really. UFC was a very small company that the casino-owning Fertitta brothers bought for a couple of million dollars. White is a minority owner.

They just sold the majority of UFC to a coalition of media companies for $4 billion.

White will pocket between 200 and 400 million dollars and apparently will retain a small ownership share.

Casinos and blood-sport - just the thing that Drumpfskind would like.

Unlike Drumpfskind, the Fertittas are successful in the casino business. Supposedly they want to buy an NFL team, but the NFL doesn’t like gambling moguls so it may never come to pass.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:21:11pm

re: #87 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I had a dog as a teeanger who loved tearing up paper. If you left any piece of paper on the floor, he’d find it and rip it to shreds. I guess he liked the sound of it. My dad was an electronics repairman. The dog would also chew resistors that happened to land on the floor.

She leaves it in a perfect pile for me to scoop up. No paper found in the hated poop scoop.

Prob OK

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:22:13pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

Kitteh is active. Kitteh is very specific about the material that is destroyed, because Kitteh does whatever the fuck it wants.

I had a Kitteh that slept on my head every night. I was a teenager. It was weirdly beautiful … in hindsight. At the time it was annoying as fuck. His name was Spike and he was my cat until I moved to Steamboat in 2002. My parents took Spike and he died about a year later and my parents took care of the rest.

He was a grey hair. And his biggest medical problem was when his tail got slammed in the front door when my dad was trying to keep him out. I saw the whole thing (I was 11 or so) and saw a little mound of fur and flesh settle after my dad had slammed the door. Spike got out, but he got hurt! I started crying.

We found Spike moments later, just wandering and sniffing the blue spruce in our yard.

He went to the vet immediately and he got about two inches of his tail amputated. So he had this weird tail, all through middle and high school.

I’ll get another cat one of these days. Even though I wasn’t there, Spike’s passing (2003 or so) was devastating.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:23:37pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

She leaves it in a perfect pile for me to scoop up. No paper found in the hated poop scoop.

Prob OK

Sounds like you’ve got a handle on it. If it becomes a game where Mommy gives her paper to chew up, maybe she won’t do it indiscriminately. It’s worth a try.

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:25:26pm

Jeez. Night 2 has got his 22-year old Barbie doll daughter Tiffany (w/ Marla Maples)

townandcountrymag.com

speaking. Of course, it is on:

A focus on the economy: Mr. White, president of the U.F.C.; Asa Hutchinson, the governor of Arkansas; Michael Mukasey, the former United States attorney general; Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, a vice-presidential possibility; Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader; Tiffany Trump; Donald Trump Jr. and Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

Take a look at that heavyweight lineup speaking on the future of America’s fiscal policy, tax policies, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and pension structure. I am SO amped!!

Jesus weeps and I’m projectile vomiting out my back porch. This has to be a joke, doesn’t it?

Doesn’t it?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:32:36pm

From Anne Laurie at Balloon Juice:

Hayden was confirmed 74-18 by the Senate. All of the dissenting senators were Republicans, including Senators Mark Kirk, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and Tom Cotton. And though she was unanimously endorsed by the G.O.P-controlled Senate Rules Committee, an anonymous Republican senator blocked the vote to confirm Hayden’s appointment for more than five weeks…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:49:35pm

Reading the comments at Chuckie’s GotNewsDotCom Facebook page is somewhat entertaining. About 90% attack him for making shit up and being a racist. Oddly, such comments never appear at the GNDC blog.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 13, 2016 • 11:50:09pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:00:36am

One of the more self-conflicted groups in American politics realizes:

Log Cabin Republicans: GOP Party Platform the ‘Most Anti-LGBT’ in Party’s History

“There’s no way to sugar-coat this: I’m mad as h*** — and I know you are, too,” Gregory T. Angelo, president of the Log Cabin Republicans, wrote in a fundraising email sent Tuesday evening. “Moments ago, the Republican Party passed the most anti-LGBT Platform in the Party’s 162-year history,”

This has been a slow epiphany coming.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:00:56am

Your Disagreement with Ruth Bader Ginsburg Is Duly Noted; Now Go Fuck Yourselves

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austin_blue  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:04:38am

Re: my #92, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat per Wiki. That deserves an extra big bag of popcorn for his speech.

Which will have absolutely nothing to do with the economy.

On economy night.

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:16:29am

Low Sierra snow seen as piece of alarming climate picture

A fifth year of disappointing snow in the Sierra is part of a much larger predicament of record-low snow across the Northern Hemisphere, a setback that scientists identified Wednesday as another reminder of the alarming pace of human-caused global warming.

A panel of climate experts organized by SEARCH, or the Study of Environmental Arctic Change, met in Washington, D.C., to draw attention to the historic melt-off of snow and ice during the first six months of 2016 — and the resulting problems.

“We lost the snow earlier than anytime on record, and it wasn’t just in one part of the snow-covered universe,” said Dave Robinson, New Jersey state climatologist at Rutgers University, noting that as much as 30 percent of the land in the Northern Hemisphere is typically white. “This is the lowest spring snow extent on record.”

[…]

Just don’t tell the GOP platform committee.

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:23:50am

America Canada 2016:

Bible school challenges children to believe

[…]

“The curriculum we’re doing deals a lot with defending biblically and scientifically the Christian doctrines of creation - the fall and the flood over evolutionary thought.”

Theories of creationism and evolution have recently become hot topics in the news, with Bill Nye the Science Guy recently slamming a new, 155-metre long Noah’s Ark attraction in Kentucky, saying he believes it is a danger to science education.

The week-long camp, however, hopes to counteract messages like Nye’s, using science to prove the theory of creation to children.

[…]

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austin_blue  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:34:11am

re: #99 freetoken

Low Sierra snow seen as piece of alarming climate picture

Just don’t tell the GOP platform committee.

Who could possibly have seen this coming?

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Nyet  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:43:00am

re: #4 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Once it’s out there, it’s out there. I took a look at it and those Os seem to be some kind of editorial markings, probably not an abbreviation of “Obama”. Or of they are, maybe it’s Malik Obama’s initial, if he was proofing the text.

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austin_blue  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:45:29am

re: #100 freetoken

America Canada 2016:

Bible school challenges children to believe

“The curriculum we’re doing deals a lot with defending biblically and scientifically the Christian doctrines of creation

Just stop right there. See that “and” you’ve got in there? That is where you are well and truly fucked. You can have one, or the other. There is no “and”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:46:27am

re: #102 Nyet

Once it’s out there, it’s out there. I took a look at it and those Os seem to be some kind of editorial markings, probably not an abbreviation of “Obama”. Or of they are, maybe it’s Malik Obama’s initial, if he was proofing the text.

It’s not like anyone who has written a book would not ask someone to proofread it or offer comments. Chuck is an idiot if he believes those comments are meningful in any way. He has written two books and surely he must have received galley proofs before printing, and gotten editorial feedback, unless his particular publisher didn’t bother with such details.

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Nyet  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:54:08am

re: #104 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I don’t know how he got the draft but one plausible way is, his people convinced Malik Obama to sell it for a couple hundred bucks. He got more than 7500$ out of it. It’s simply in his financial interest to lie about the value of this pile of paper or to heavily imply something untoward.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:56:22am

re: #105 Nyet

I don’t know how he got the draft but one plausible way is, his people convinced Malik Obama to sell it for a couple hundred bucks. He got more than 7500$ out of it. It’s simply in his financial interest to lie about the value of this pile of paper or to heavily imply something untoward.

I’d be curious to know how Malik sold it for, if he is indeed the source. Another question is why would Malik even have a copy, since I understood the two half-brothers don’t get along especially well.

We will never know, I’m sure.

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Nyet  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:58:39am

Maybe from another relative. I think lying about Malik would be very stupid as it’s very verifiable. Though we’re talking about Chucky here.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 1:05:02am

re: #107 Nyet

Maybe from another relative. I think lying about Malik would be very stupid as it’s very verifiable. Though we’re talking about Chucky here.

He said something about paying the “private eye” who obtained the ms, so I imagine the PI added a substantial markup in price.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 1:14:37am

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 1:33:58am

So cooking up some homemade steamed cheeseburgers earlier when some grease caught me. Got some pretty good blisters on my hand and chest right now. Stings like a son of a bitch.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2016 • 1:39:47am

Looks like another day of pearl clutching by the lamestream Beltway media regarding RBG’s outrageous belief that you should point out one of the two major political parties is about to nominate a fascist.

(Of course, the real reason they’re going after her is because she accurately described the media’s relationship with Trump: “The press seems to be very gentle with him on that [Trump’s refusal to release his tax returns].”)

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Ming5000  Jul 14, 2016 • 2:08:04am

re: #110 Kragar

So cooking up some homemade steamed cheeseburgers earlier when some grease caught me. Got some pretty good blisters on my hand and chest right now. Stings like a son of a bitch.

This is one of those cases where updinging seems wrong. So wrong.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2016 • 2:09:18am

Hahahahahahaha, Ralph Northam is beating Ed Gillespie in fundraising so far for the 2017 Gubernatioral election here in Virginia:

Democratic Lt. Gov. Ralph S. Northam leads Republican Ed Gillespie in early fundraising for Virginia’s 2017 gubernatorial race, but both campaigns say they’re raising money at a faster clip than their predecessors.

Both campaigns announced Wednesday that they have more than $1 million on hand halfway through 2016, with Northam’s $1.44 million beating Gillespie’s $1.05 million. At the same point in 2012, Democrat Terry McAuliffe had $1.04 million. Republican Ken Cuccinelli had $627,337.

Northam, the presumptive Democratic nominee for governor, reported raising $1.03 million in 2016 as of June 30 between his Stronger Together PAC and campaign committee. Gillespie, a former Republican National Committee chairman who ran a surprisingly strong race in 2014 against U.S. Sen. Mark R. Warner, D-Va., raised roughly $852,000 in that same period.

richmond.com

Gillespie also has a convention fight as there are two other Republican candidates while Northam is the only Democratic one.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 14, 2016 • 2:14:18am

Peak DARVO levels have been reached:

Today House Science Committee Chairman Lamar Smith sent congressional subpoenas to several attorneys general and nonprofit organizations—including the Union of Concerned Scientists—demanding access to correspondence among these groups and between these groups and the attorneys general offices.

[…]

Recent investigations by InsideClimate News and the LA Times, along with advocacy groups, have revealed documents showing that ExxonMobil scientists knew about climate change and its global risks by the late 1970s and possibly even the 1960s. The company appears to have been at the cutting edge of climate research, and yet chose to wage a decades-long disinformation campaign rather than warn the public and its own investors of climate change risks. Several state attorneys general (AGs) have launched investigations into whether or not these actions constitute fraud.

[…]

The chairman and other members of Congress keep claiming that they are protecting the right to “fund and conduct scientific research free from intimidation and threats of prosecution.” But as we continue to point out, our concerns are not with the conduct of research—but rather with how fossil fuel companies have misrepresented and cast doubt upon such research, and in doing so, may have misled their investors and the public.

By attempting to interfere in these investigations, the chairman is directly undermining efforts to hold accountable those who intentionally misrepresent or suppress scientific information. His actions are contrary to the very principles he claims to hold dear.

blog.ucsusa.org

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2016 • 2:55:41am

For those who have not kept up with the leadership chaos in the UK, the BBC has a brief overview of the new ministers:

Theresa May’s cabinet: Who’s in and who’s out?

May is putting as the overseer of the Brexit-thing (is there a better term?) one of the anti-EU Brexiters, David Davis.

Davis seems to be a bit out into fantasy land, in my opinion:

Britain’s new ‘Brexit minister’ has already made up his mind about the EU

Here is his own claims from a couple of days ago:

David Davis: Trade deals. Tax cuts. And taking time before triggering Article 50. A Brexit economic strategy for Britain

[…]

So within two years, before the negotiation with the EU is likely to be complete, and therefore before anything material has changed, we can negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU. Trade deals with the US and China alone will give us a trade area almost twice the size of the EU, and of course we will also be seeking deals with Hong Kong, Canada, Australia, India, Japan, the UAE, Indonesia - and many others.

[…]

So how will this look if we get it right? We will have a more dynamic economy, trading throughout the world. Our businesses will have greater global opportunities, and will be more competitive. There will be lower prices in the shops, once we are outside the Common External Tariff. There will be higher wages for the poorest. An immigration system that allows us to control numbers. Control of our laws, so our lives are not hampered by needless and restrictive regulations.

[…]

What Davis is asserting is that by increasing free trade deals with the world’s most populous countries, all of whom have labor costs far below that in the UK, will bring higher wages to the UK.

Really?

Here in the US the angst that drives some of the anti-trade-deal politics (which has occurred both in Drumpfskind-land and in some Democratic circles) is that wages in the US have, allegedly, been suppressed because we now import so much from low-labor-cost countries.

Whether or not that is a reason for the US not to go ahead with this or that trade deal is debatable, but there is no doubt that the very reason imports are cheaper than domestic goods is that the cost of labor in countries like India and China is so much lower than in the US.

Yet here we now have the Brexit minister claiming that free trade deals with these very same nations will somehow raise wages in the UK.

Most of the comments on Davis’ missive are supportive of him, but one did point out (what seems easily evident, at least to me) that the UK exports services, not widgets. Yet Davis seems to think the UK can make more cars more cheaply and apparently for export.

What??

When was the last time the UK had any significant impact on global market for automobiles?

Davis’ plan is as loony as a Drumpfskind “policy” speech. All sorts of claims, without any evidence or data to support them. All fantasies.

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Alephnaught  Jul 14, 2016 • 2:56:33am

Meanwhile, in Westminster- New PM Theresa May is doing a cabinet re-shuffle. Well, that’s what it’s called, it’s more like a “Morning of the Long Knives”:

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2016 • 3:14:48am

And now… we have this:

Alexander McQueen’s DNA Is Being Used For Fashion Line Called ‘Pure Humans’

Alexander McQueen may be coming back to the markets, six years after the designer’s tragic death. A student from McQueen’s alma mater Central Saint Martins has reportedly planned to use the designer’s DNA to produce a line of leather accessories, in an attempt to bind together biotechnology and luxury.

Tina Gorjanc, a graduate from the institution’s MA Material Futures course, released a fashion line called “Pure Humans,” promising to be the “intersection of luxury and biology.” The collection pulls the DNA from the labels of McQueen’s first collection — named “Jack the Ripper Stalks His Victims”— that contained his hair. The genetic material is extracted and processed with cell culture, eventually turning it into skin tissue that can be treated in the same way as leather.

[…]

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2016 • 3:22:22am

Careno Cuban Boys - Siboney

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2016 • 3:24:26am

re: #117 freetoken

And now… we have this:

Alexander McQueen’s DNA Is Being Used For Fashion Line Called ‘Pure Humans’

Comes with a supply of lotion.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2016 • 3:28:03am

Brain bleach:

Alison Balsom | Sound The Trumpet | Eternal Source of Light Divine

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:02:23am

Happy Bastille Day!!

A Medley of four songs from Marat/Sade sung by Judy Collins

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:10:19am

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Happy Bastille Day!!

Is there not a story that one of the prisoners released from the Bastille was an ancestor of Bill Clinton?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:19:35am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Is there not a story that one of the prisoners released from the Bastille was an ancestor of Bill Clinton?

The Marquis de Sade?

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:20:18am

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Some background on the painting The Death of Marat that for whatever reason I find so fascinating, kind of like the cover art on Queen’s Album News of the World.

Family Guy Killer Queen Stewie

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:20:43am

Walking the dog—back after the revolution.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:22:03am

re: #124 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Some background on the painting The Death of Marat that for whatever reason I find so fascinating, kind of like the cover art on Queen’s Album News of the World.

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I know a few people in real life who were terribly disturbed by that album cover…

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:33:12am

Is the fad over yet?

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:40:08am

Cops spotted playing Pokémon Go on the job

A group of Queens cops took community policing to a new embarrassing level Wednesday when they were caught on video playing Pokemon Go while on the job - at least the second time officers were witnessed playing the game.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:43:47am

re: #6 Stanley Sea

OT but needed

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I need that. Looking at Nate Silver’s projections at 538.com, one of his models has Trump at a one in three chance of winning. One. in. Three. I have a cold, dark pit in my stomach thinking about it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:44:56am

re: #129 Big Beautiful Door

I need that. Looking at Nate Silver’s projections at 538.com, one of his models has Trump at a one in three chance of winning. One. in. Three. I have a cold, dark pit in my stomach thinking about it.

There are a number of things that could happen between now and then that would swing the election in his favor…most of them catastrophic in nature…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:52:49am

Meanwhile, here in the Czech Republic:

In what looks like one of the biggest deals of the year, two originally Czech computer antivirus security companies have announced they are getting together with the likelihood of putting Prague and the Czech Republic permanently on the map as the home of one of the world’s leaders in the sector.

The announcement late last week that Prague based Avast - known for its free home computer antivirus security offer - is going to buy out its biggest rival, AVG, took many by surprise. But the two originally Czech based start-ups from just over two decades ago have apparently been eyeing each other up and taking part in some preliminary courting for some time.

According to Vince Steckler, the American CEO of Avast, when asked if the HQ would still be here in the Czech Republic:

“Absolutely, we are a Czech company, we are a Czech tax payer, our tax home is the Czech Republic also.”

radio.cz

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:55:35am

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

Absolutely, we are a Czech company, we are a Czech tax payer, our tax home is the Czech Republic also.”

Boy you guys are shitty capitalists, move your headquarters to the Cayman Islands!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:59:02am

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Boy you guys are shitty capitalists, move your headquarters to the Cayman Islands!!!

/

LOLOL

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jeffreyw  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:17:21am

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Good morning! Vacancy!

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:27:34am

So, Wonkette come through and distills the essence of the RNC’s turdfest to …. turds.

Dead Breitbart’s fabulous Trumpkin poster child for lady hating, Milo Yiannopoulos, will be using Cleveland to gather a cadre of D-List Bond villains to remind the world that they’re here, they’re queer, and they have enough white power to get rid of all the spooky Muslims. If you thought Milo’s college tour was a shit-show, gurl, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:29:09am

re: #40 majii

“As it stands, I hope magic is real and he wakes up on Election Day as a single black woman mother in rural Alabama [ in 1940.]

He’d leap out of bed, look at his skin and go nuts trying to convince others that he’s really a white man. This idea would make a very good episode of the Twilight Zone, and I think if Rod Serling were still around, he’d probably write the screenplay and produce it. In reading his bio, I discovered that he hated racism and discrimination and wanted to include episodes in his his series about racism and discrimination, but the network bigwigs thought it was “not appropriate.”

They had that as part of the movie in which several people tragically died in a helicopter accident during filming.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:29:25am

re: #40 majii

“As it stands, I hope magic is real and he wakes up on Election Day as a single black woman mother in rural Alabama [ in 1940.]

He’d leap out of bed, look at his skin and go nuts trying to convince others that he’s really a white man. This idea would make a very good episode of the Twilight Zone, and I think if Rod Serling were still around, he’d probably write the screenplay and produce it. In reading his bio, I discovered that he hated racism and discrimination and wanted to include episodes in his his series about racism and discrimination, but the network bigwigs thought it was “not appropriate.”

Wasn’t there a movie like that? I can’t remember the name of it or the names of the actors who were in it.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:30:36am

re: #4 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Rage Furby has posted the first draft of Obama’s Dreams from My Father online.

Waiting to see how long it takes for a C&D letter to arrive in his mailbox for copyright infringement.

I did some digging this morning and came across Harlan Ellison’s various lawsuits against people who posted his copyrighted works on the net without his permission. He did that in one major case and got the internet provider to take it down. I’ve seen Ellison in person, he is definitely a guy who you do NOT want to screw over. He’s well versed in the art of “Tongue Fu” and he will put you in a mandolin and slice you to pieces.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:35:30am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. So, Trump’s RNC has revealed the list of speakers, and it’s predictably a shit show of C list stars and has beens, along with a few surprises.

Who knew that a $25,000 donation can not only get an investigation into Trump’s scam school dropped, but can lead to a speaking spot for Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi.

For all those legal eagles who are saying Hillary should be indicted for Benghazi or other acts, they’re suspiciously silent over the quid pro quo that is apparent in how Bondi launched the investigation and then folded it up after receiving a donation from Trump in short order.

Ted Tebow will be there? I’m sure Touchdown Jesus will be proud as the GOP continues assaulting the safety net that protects the poor.

There hasn’t been this much hypocrisy and hype in the same room since the last GOP convention. But since this is Trump’s gig, it’s gold plated hype and hypocrisy.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:36:28am

A glance at the ol’ Screw York Times and I see that they’re in full 2000 mode once again as they call Hillary a wounded candidate and gloat that Trump is now even with her in the polls…

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:37:18am

re: #140 Joe Bacon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:37:49am

re: #140 Joe Bacon

A glance at the ol’ Screw York Times and I see that they’re in full 2000 mode once again as they call Hillary a wounded candidate and gloat that Trump is now even with her in the polls…

Yes, there are polls that would show the two neck and neck.

And there are is a museum in Kentucky that shows that the world is 6,000 years old.

You just gotta believe.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:39:26am

re: #96 freetoken

One of the more self-conflicted groups in American politics realizes:

Log Cabin Republicans: GOP Party Platform the ‘Most Anti-LGBT’ in Party’s History

This has been a slow epiphany coming.

Note that he’s not giving up on the GOP; he’s fundraising! So not much of an epiphany.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:40:00am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:40:36am

re: #99 freetoken

Low Sierra snow seen as piece of alarming climate picture

Just don’t tell the GOP platform committee.

Converting to a clean energy source, such as coal, will solve the problem./

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:41:25am

re: #145 Big Beautiful Door

Converting to a clean energy source, such as coal, will solve the problem./

and don’t forget that nuclear power is CO2-free!!!

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:43:51am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:45:52am

re: #144 lawhawk

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I saw nothing but “Biondi” until last week. Which is the typo?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:53:55am

This is reassuring. New Marist polls have Trump winning zero percent of the African-American vote in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Zero percent. Sad!

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:56:41am

re: #148 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Bondi.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:58:11am

re: #149 Big Beautiful Door

This is reassuring. New Marist polls have Trump winning zero percent of the African-American vote in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Zero percent. Sad!

With a MOE of +/- 3 or so, Trump could owe pollsters people.

When asked how Trump will do in the general election, some suggested Trump might get 5%. I think it’s closer to 8. As in total number of black people voting for him being eight.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:01:08am

re: #151 lawhawk

With a MOE of +/- 3 or so, Trump could owe pollsters people.

When asked how Trump will do in the general election, some suggested Trump might get 5%. I think it’s closer to 8. As in total number of black people voting for him being eight.

There are some very conservative religious African-Americans who will probably vote Trump just because of abortion. The big question for Clinton is will black voters turn out to vote at close to the historically high numbers they achieved in 2012.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:01:39am

Wingnut Superlawyer Larry Klayman Sues All The Black People, For Being Scary And Mean

Have you been in an accident? On the job or in your car? Was that accident caused by black people mentioning that racism still exists? Well then, you may just want to hop on Larry Klayman’s class action lawsuit against black people who mention that racism still exists, and maybe a judge will give you a million dollars for all your pain and suffering.


America’s worst lawyer has filed a lawsuit against President Barack Obama, Louis Farrakhan, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton and Black Lives Matter for supposedly starting a race war, causing the murder of five Dallas cops, and endangering the life of Larry Klayman.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:01:59am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

Wasn’t there a movie like that? I can’t remember the name of it or the names of the actors who were in it.

Watermelon Man.

Black comedian Godfrey Cambridge was the main character. Directed by Melvin Van Peebles.

Here is a wiki link to Watermelon Man

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:06:33am

re: #153 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wingnut Superlawyer Larry Klayman Sues All The Black People, For Being Scary And Mean

Why hasn’t that asshole been disbarred?

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:10:16am

re: #155 Joe Bacon

Because he’s skipping trial and going straight to FEMA camp Jade Helm?

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No Depression  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:13:39am

It’s extremely fitting that Tebow will be a speaker for the RNC. Like Trump, he’s a mediocre white man who gets way more media attention than he deserves.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:14:23am

re: #155 Joe Bacon

Why hasn’t that asshole been disbarred?

As a lawyer, I can tell you that you usually won’t get disbarred merely for filing frivolous suits. Other than getting convicted of a felony, the two biggest reasons for disbarment are first, stealing clients’ money, and second, neglecting clients’ cases causing dismissals and default judgments.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:14:52am

Rick Wiles: Satan Using Pokémon Go To Spawn ‘Demonic Powers’ And Murder Christians

“The enemy, Satan, is targeting churches with virtual, digital, cyber-demons,” Wiles said, before adding: “I believe this thing is a magnet for demonic powers.”

Wiles went on to claim that “Pokémon masters” may soon start “telling people to kill people in those buildings” in order to catch more Pokémon, comparing the use of the App to Philando Castile’s girlfriend use of Facebook Live to live stream the aftermath of Castile’s shooting by a police officer, which he said might have been staged.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:17:54am
Night 3: Ms. Bondi; Ms. Collins; Newt Gingrich, a former House speaker; Senator Ted Cruz of Texas; Eric Trump; Ms. Gulbis; and the nominee for vice president.

Sorry to see Natalie Gulbis signing on to this sshitshow.

Also:

Night 2: A focus on the economy: Mr. White, president of the U.F.C.; Asa Hutchinson, the governor of Arkansas; Michael Mukasey, the former United States attorney general; Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, a vice-presidential possibility; Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader; Tiffany Trump; Donald Trump Jr. and Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

Maybe UFC’s White is up for Secretary of the Treasury in a Trump Admin.
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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:18:35am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:19:40am

re: #159 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Rick Wiles: Satan Using Pokémon Go To Spawn ‘Demonic Powers’ And Murder Christians

Wiles must be a real hit with the kids.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:21:55am
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Great White Snark  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:27:53am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

See that’s why I was surprised he strongly backed Romney. I knew about that. As I said, I have a small soft spot for him since he reminds me of my one grandpa who had a similar personality but who wouldn’t be caught dead at the RNC.

Not just Eastwood, we are all more complicated than we speak to or appear. And feelings change over the decades in a long life. Especially a successful one of genuine influence. Not that we should dismiss his worst moments, and he has a deserved irascible reputation on set. Sometimes in politics we make a bunch of assumptions about a person from just a few spoken words.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:30:45am

re: #163 lawhawk

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I imagine that same prick responds to people calling him out for naked racism by claiming ‘FREEZE PEACH! DON’T CENSOR ME!’. You know, despite just how blatant and abusive said racism is to where Twitter should be regulating it if they weren’t fucking terrible about that.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:30:48am

The guy who entered the plea deal was a former head of the Port Authority who got an airline to create a route to his favorite vacation spot while the airlines access to the Port Authority controlled airports was under discussion, and once he was no longer at the Port Authority, they dropped the route ASAP.

The former Port Authority chairman and Gov. Christie ally who resigned amid an investigation into the George Washington Bridge lane-closing scandal is expected to plead guilty in a separate investigation involving an airline route out of Newark Airport, sources familiar with the investigation told NBC 4 New York.

David Samson will plead guilty to a single conspiracy-related count in the federal investigation and won’t be cooperating with the government, the sources said.

Samson’s activities have been part of an ongoing investigation by federal prosecutors in New Jersey, including his votes on United Airlines projects at Newark Airport.
Those votes happened at the same time United was restarting flights from Newark to Columbia, South Carolina, near where Samson has a vacation home.

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mmmirele  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:31:59am

Back in 1995, when I lived in Utah, we had Congresswoman Enid Greene Waldholtz, whose scamming husband*, Joe, basically purchased her seat in Congress by ripping off Enid’s parents to the tune of $4 million. The highlight of Greene’s single term in office was a four-hour rambling press conference, broadcast live on local TV, which pretty much sealed her fate as a member of Congress.

Well, Enid got a divorce, remarried and is now Enid Greene Mickelsen. And she’s the chair of the RNC’s Rules Committee this year.

motherjones.com

*Greene tried to run for Congress as a single woman but did not get anywhere. I know it was believed in the circles I ran in that her marrriage to Waldholtz was something of a convenience so she could get that coveted congressional seat because single people simply weren’t trusted to be proper adults in Utah, even if you were 30+ years old. Of course, nobody blamed her for dumping the scammer Joe Waldholtz. He’s out of prison, but no idea where he is now.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:32:04am

re: #165 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Handy-dandy reminder:

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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:33:25am

re: #168 lawhawk

Handy-dandy reminder:

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Hell, for some folk it’s this:

Is govt the party limiting speech/press or establishing religion? If yes, see 2A. If no, see 2A.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:40:48am

re: #40 majii

“As it stands, I hope magic is real and he wakes up on Election Day as a single black woman mother in rural Alabama [ in 1940.]

He’d leap out of bed, look at his skin and go nuts trying to convince others that he’s really a white man. This idea would make a very good episode of the Twilight Zone, and I think if Rod Serling were still around, he’d probably write the screenplay and produce it. In reading his bio, I discovered that he hated racism and discrimination and wanted to include episodes in his his series about racism and discrimination, but the network bigwigs thought it was “not appropriate.”

Remember Dick Gregory’s movie ‘Watermelon Man?’ That was pretty much the premise - racist wakes up one morning as black man.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:40:59am

I’ve said several times that Texas Walmarts resemble a zombie apocalypse. Perhaps this young employee took it literally.

Off-Duty Firefighter And 1 Other Person Stabbed At Walmart In Princeton (Texas)

An off-duty McKinney firefighter and one other person were attacked at the Walmart in Princeton, allegedly by an employee who soon became a former employee.

Both victims were taken via CareFlite to the hospital.

Sources tell CBS11’s J.D. Miles, the Walmart employee, Nicolas Martinez, 20, allegedly slit the firefighter’s throat from behind with about 200-300 shoppers inside the busy store.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:41:19am

re: #159 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Rick Wiles: Satan Using Pokémon Go To Spawn ‘Demonic Powers’ And Murder Christians

Rick Wiles is just a few degrees removed from Alex Jones on the craziness scale. I’m sure he railed against the sins of the Internet back when it was new, but now he uses it. If he has kids, they probably play it when he’s not looking. Same with his congregants.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:42:32am

re: #169 Franklin

Hell, for some folk it’s this:

Is govt the party limiting speech/press or establishing religion? If yes, see 2A. If no, see 2A.

Honestly, these days? It seems more like ‘If X, then 2A. If Y, then 2A’.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:44:23am

re: #173 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Honestly, these days? It seems more like ‘If X, then 2A. If Y, then 2A’.

Just a reminder, in Cleveland next week protestors may only carry real guns that fire real bullets. No bb guns or water pistols allowed.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:48:51am

When you’ve got Fox and MSNBC and CNN all spending hours touting Trump, what do you think’ll happen. Trump can spend minimally on advertising since he’s getting billions in free airtime.

Every single appearance gets presidential treatment, even though he spouts nothingburgers and nonsense. Every utterance gets treated as though it was carved on Mt. Sinai.

And yet, the media remains uncritical and avoids identifying that Trump is spectacularly unqualified to be president, is surrounded by racists and bigots, to say nothing of yes men who will affirm everything he spouts off, regardless of how divorced from reality it is.

So of course, the media will play MBF with Trump, claiming such nonsense about how both Trump and Hillary don’t have a plan to reduce the nation’s debt. That’s as far from reality as Trump is, considering that Trump’s tax plan would add $10 trillion over 10 years (or $1 trillion a year - on a $4T annual fed budget) to the national debt, while Clinton’s plan would reduce the debt by about $191 billion over 10 years.

This is what Clinton has to battle - a media that is throwing in with the need for a horse race, that is dissecting every single Clinton utterance as though the next one will spell her indictment (and treating all the GOP investigations as serious matters, instead of the witch hunts that she’s endured for a generation), while giving Trump’s legal woes scant attention.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:53:07am

re: #159 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Rick Wiles: Satan Using Pokémon Go To Spawn ‘Demonic Powers’ And Murder Christians

Sure that’s a normal response. Totally ignores that Pokemon has been around for years. Wiles must be fun at parties. What a miserable old dick.

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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:53:38am
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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:57:22am

From the party of personal responsibility:

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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:58:51am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:58:59am

re: #178 Franklin

From the party of personal responsibility:

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That’s the right wing way. Tell other people to take “personal responsibility” but when you fuck up, blame others.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:00:52am

re: #179 Franklin

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He’s right and this was especially true in the deep South.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:01:40am

re: #170 makeitstop

Remember Dick Gregory’s movie ‘Watermelon Man?’ That was pretty much the premise - racist wakes up one morning as black man.

See my #154 above. I have a link to a wiki page on Watermelon Man.

I don’t think Gregory had anything to do with the movie. It was written by Herman Raucher and Godfrey Cambridge, the Black comedian was the main character.

Edit to add: The wiki page said the author got the idea from Franz Kafka’s Metamorphosis

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:03:24am

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel

I’ve said several times that Texas Walmarts resemble a zombie apocalypse. Perhaps this young employee took it literally.

Off-Duty Firefighter And 1 Other Person Stabbed At Walmart In Princeton (Texas)

Texas Walmart employees are regularly exposed to toxic gasses from the FEMA tunnels, built to support the Jade Helm operations

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:04:19am

I’m a little disappointed that Barron Trump was unable to fit an appearance at the convention into his busy schedule. I was looking forward to hearing what someone near Trump’s mental age had to say about the campaign.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:06:31am

The Dow Jones just hit another all-time record high, but at Day 2 of the RNC hatefest they are going to try to convince people that America is dying.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:08:02am

re: #174 Big Beautiful Door

Just a reminder, in Cleveland next week protestors may only carry real guns that fire real bullets. No bb guns or water pistols allowed.

GIs were specifically forbidden to have toy, replica, or otherwise non-functional firearms in Vietnam as well. They probably thought some sleepy-eyed type would grab his Mattel Marauder instead of a real M-16 during an infiltrator alert, with decidedly embarrassing results. Given the haste with which people responded to these alerts, it might have been possible, even though the actual bullet-spitter is about 5 times as heavy.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:09:06am

Oh please say this at the convention…pretty please.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:10:17am

Polling freakout reminder. Right before the DNC, polling averages had Romney and Obama tied. The convention was Sept 4-6, 2012.

What happened? Obama won by 3.9 points, even though polling had him ahead by about a point.

Clinton has been ahead consistently, but the media has to treat outlier polls as though this signals the shift to Trump ahead. It’s good for eyeballs, but ignores the reality that Trump polls awfully with minorities and women. Those are the groups that will help decide the outcome.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:10:19am

re: #187 Jenner7

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Oh please say this at the convention…pretty please.

Oh God that guy.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:10:41am

re: #187 Jenner7

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Oh please say this at the convention…pretty please.

…..along with the Fremen of Dune.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:10:44am

re: #187 Jenner7

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Oh please say this at the convention…pretty please.

At the rate of sheer wingnutiness that’s piling up for the GOP convention, it’s gonna end up coming across to most Americans as a Nuremberg rally.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:11:21am

re: #188 lawhawk

Polling freakout reminder. Right before the DNC, polling averages had Romney and Obama tied. The convention was Sept 4-6, 2012.

What happened? Obama won by 3.9 points, even though polling had him ahead by about a point.

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Clinton has been ahead consistently, but the media has to treat outlier polls as though this signals the shift to Trump ahead. It’s good for eyeballs, but ignores the reality that Trump polls awfully with minorities and women. Those are the groups that will help decide the outcome.

Exactly. I understand why people worry but I think Trump has alienated with so many key demographics that he’s going to have a rough time at it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:12:32am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

At the rate of sheer wingnutiness that’s piling up for the GOP convention, it’s gonna end up coming across to most Americans as a Nuremberg rally.

Given what I’ve read about the GOP platform this year, absolutely. Saw a good point made though, their platform considers pornography a public health issue yet they’re nominating a guy who has appeared on the cover of Playboy and a guy whose wife has posed nude.

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(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:12:37am

re: #155 Joe Bacon

Why hasn’t that asshole been disbarred?

It took ages to get Jack Thompson disbarred, so I’m not surprised about this.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:13:06am

I’m not worried. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:13:56am

re: #170 makeitstop

Remember Dick Gregory’s movie ‘Watermelon Man?’ That was pretty much the premise - racist wakes up one morning as black man.

There was also an episode of M*A*S*H where a bigot was yelling about racial purity and blood transfusions. They painted the guy with something while under anesthesia, so that he woke up from surgery much darker-skinned than he was before.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:14:10am

re: #190 Shiplord Kirel

and the munchkins of Oz.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:14:26am

I’d like to think his poll numbers go down after convention. Because he’s a clown and the convention will be a hot mess.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:14:28am

re: #188 lawhawk

Polling freakout reminder. Right before the DNC, polling averages had Romney and Obama tied. The convention was Sept 4-6, 2012.

What happened? Obama won by 3.9 points, even though polling had him ahead by about a point.

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Clinton has been ahead consistently, but the media has to treat outlier polls as though this signals the shift to Trump ahead. It’s good for eyeballs, but ignores the reality that Trump polls awfully with minorities and women. Those are the groups that will help decide the outcome.

My issue isn’t going to be with the national results, as I’m fairly confident that Hillary will win barring some terrible disaster.

My worry is the repeated attempts at further delegitimizing the results and using that as coattails for further sorts of right wing bat shittery both on the congressional level and on the state level to the point it almost negates any sort of gain from Hillary taking the presidency. Half the country already seems to be teetering on the edge of declaring the Democratic Party and non-conservative minorities as one step away from treason. Imagine how deep and how long the freakout is going to be with the current atmosphere after the elction?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:16:08am

I am disappointed :(

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:17:14am

re: #159 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Rick Wiles: Satan Using Pokémon Go To Spawn ‘Demonic Powers’ And Murder Christians

Pokemons are all the hot topic of conversation. Talking about them will gain attention. Attention will get you donations. That is all these pricks are about

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:17:39am

re: #154 ObserverArt

Watermelon Man.

Black comedian Godfrey Cambridge was the main character. Directed by Melvin Van Peebles.

Here is a wiki link to Watermelon Man

I had the movie right, but the wrong actor.

I actually saw that movie in a theater when I was a kid. It was funny, but kinda depressing at the same time.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:17:59am

Here’s Why Quinnipiac’s Polls Showing Trump Leading Clinton Are Totally Wrong

To understand why Quinnipiac’s polls are always more favorable to Trump, it is important to look at the assumptions that Quinnipiac makes about the composition of the 2016 electorate. Each Quinnipiac University poll assumes that white voter turnout will go up, African-American turnout will stay the same, and Hispanic turnout will drop.

[…]

If Quinnipiac’s white voter turnout was adjusted to actual voter turnout levels, Clinton would lead by 3 points in Pennsylvania, 5 points in Ohio, and be tied in Florida.

However, the oversampling of white voters is only half of the problem. Quinnipiac’s polling also underrepresents minorities.

Quinnipiac University is polling an electorate that is extremely favorable to Donald Trump. Any Republican is going to win a presidential election if white turnout increases and minority turnout drops. The reality of turnout statistics is that the opposite has been happening. White turnout has been decreasing while non-white turnout is growing rapidly.

Quinnipiac is projecting an electorate that is nothing like who are likely to vote in November.

Translation: Quinnipiac is trying to create a media shitshow by “rigging their polls for the best possible Trump outcome”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:19:22am

re: #168 lawhawk

Our educational system is clearly failing to educate people on the meaning of the 1st Amendment.

Frank Zappa on civics

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:20:17am

re: #203 Dr. Matt

Here’s Why Quinnipiac’s Polls Showing Trump Leading Clinton Are Totally Wrong

Translation: Quinnipiac is trying to create a media shitshow by “rigging their polls for the best possible Trump outcome”.

I knew there was something with those polls. And I don’t see anyway the Hispanic vote drops. Hispanics A) tend to like Clinton and B) tend to hate Trump.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:21:51am

re: #46 Joe Bacon

Karma is going to get him. It’s only a matter of time but Karma will bite Ginger Snapped in the ass and he’s gonna wind up pushing a cart in Skid Row.

I believe he’ll do a ‘suicide by cop’ as that will fit his grandiose personality. “Top of the world, Ma!”

I hope no one else gets hurt when he snaps.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:23:24am

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

I am disappointed :(

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Note that Scalia and Thomas were never forced or even expected to apologize or recuse themselves for either attending fundraising functions for explicit GOP causes, or being married to a lobbyist and fundraiser, respectively. But Ginsberg said a bad thing, that means she’s clearly biased and has a massive conflict of interest.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:24:07am

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Happy Bastille Day!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:24:55am

re: #207 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Note that Scalia and Thomas were never forced or even expected to apologize or recuse themselves for either attending fundraising functions for explicit GOP causes, or being married to a lobbyist and fundraiser, respectively. But Ginsberg said a bad thing, that means she’s clearly biased and has a massive conflict of interest.

Exactly. That said, I’m glad she did apologize because it shows she unlike Trump and the GOP can admit when she feels she’s been wrong.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:25:00am

re: #203 Dr. Matt

538 shows Q-pac with a R bias of about 1 point. Their assumptions about the demographics seems to be reinforcing that here in the various polling.

If their model is truly that far off, then they’ll be in for some serious reevaluation after the election for being as far off as the critics are suggesting.

Polling is more art than actual statistics, particularly when it comes to forecasting demographics needed to make the polling accurate. If you take a poll and try to forecast who’s going to turnout incorrectly, then your polling results will be off - by a considerable margin.

There’s no reason to think that white voter turnout will go up, African-American turnout will stay the same, and Hispanic turnout will drop. Considering Trump’s positions, there’s no reason Hispanic turnout should drop; their communities will be hardest hit by Trump/GOP policies re: immigration. African Americans might not turnout in the numbers as under Obama, but it should be comparable, again because Trump/GOP policies can hit them hardest re: civil/equal rights-protections. White turnout hasn’t been up.

Moreover, whites as a demographic have been declining as overall share of electorate.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:25:56am

So, media bitching about her comments being political and just now some reporter on CNN just asked, “what’s the political fall out going to be?”

Sigh…

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:26:44am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Exactly. That said, I’m glad she did apologize because it shows she unlike Trump and the GOP can admit when she feels she’s been wrong.

It’s nice she apologized, but in this atmosphere all it’s doing is ‘proving’ that she was or is super-mega-biased and send people running to show how that one comment tarnished her career for all eternity.

re: #211 Jenner7

….case in point.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:27:58am

re: #187 Jenner7

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Oh please say this at the convention…pretty please.

It’s the fucking Red Scare all over again. “He’s advocating for equality? He must be a terrorist sympathizer!!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:28:15am

re: #212 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

It’s nice she apologized, but in this atmosphere all it’s doing is ‘proving’ that she was or is super-mega-biased and send people running to show how that one comment tarnished her career for all eternity.

True that. I’m sick of our media’s attempts to MBF everything. Have they forgotten that Trump actually went after a judge simply because of his ethnic background. As far as I’m concerned, Trump deserved everything said about him and more.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:28:44am

re: #213 Targetpractice

It’s the fucking Red Scare all over again. “He’s advocating for equality? He must be a terrorist sympathizer!!”

Ah the WFB model!

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:29:18am

re: #210 lawhawk

538 shows Q-pac with a R bias of about 1 point. Their assumptions about the demographics seems to be reinforcing that here in the various polling.

If their model is truly that far off, then they’ll be in for some serious reevaluation after the election for being as far off as the critics are suggesting.

Polling is more art than actual statistics, particularly when it comes to forecasting demographics needed to make the polling accurate. If you take a poll and try to forecast who’s going to turnout incorrectly, then your polling results will be off - by a considerable margin.

There’s no reason to think that white voter turnout will go up, African-American turnout will stay the same, and Hispanic turnout will drop. Considering Trump’s positions, there’s no reason Hispanic turnout should drop; their communities will be hardest hit by Trump/GOP policies re: immigration. African Americans might not turnout in the numbers as under Obama, but it should be comparable, again because Trump/GOP policies can hit them hardest re: civil/equal rights-protections. White turnout hasn’t been up.

Moreover, whites as a demographic have been declining as overall share of electorate.

Qpac’s coming out with polls pre-“unskewed.” If you wanted better proof that the media is trying to sell a narrative, I don’t think you could find it. But I expect that, as we get closer to November, they’ll begin slowly adjusting the numbers so that when the votes finally come in, they can maintain their “accuracy.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:30:27am
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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:30:35am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

True that. I’m sick of our media’s attempts to MBF everything. Have they forgotten that Trump actually went after a judge simply because of his ethnic background. As far as I’m concerned, Trump deserved everything said about him and more.

Meanwhile all I get to hear is how much the media is in the tank for Hillary and how oppressive and evilly liberal it is.

The right wing alternate reality is encroaching hard on the real world with drastic consequences, and it’s only going to get worse after November it looks like.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:31:17am

One RNC speaker, Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke, said he thinks Black Lives Matter is about to team up w ISIS

Because a certain subset of Americans believes that Latinos, blacks and Muslims all pose an existential threat to our Way of Life

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:32:43am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

I knew there was something with those polls. And I don’t see anyway the Hispanic vote drops. Hispanics A) tend to like Clinton and B) tend to hate Trump.

Hispanic voter registration has also surged this year….and it’s NOT because they like Trump. I think we’ll see the largest number of Hispanics voting this year.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:33:06am

re: #217 The Vicious Babushka

I look at that map, and I’ll see is that there’s pretty much no way Trump can win the Electoral College.

And that’s that. Presumably, Trump being Trump, he’ll sue someone because the Electoral College is PROOF THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!! or some such bullshit.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:33:11am

re: #186 Shiplord Kirel

GIs were specifically forbidden to have toy, replica, or otherwise non-functional firearms in Vietnam as well. They probably thought some sleepy-eyed type would grab his Mattel Marauder instead of a real M-16 during an infiltrator alert, with decidedly embarrassing results. Given the haste with which people responded to these alerts, it might have been possible, even though the actual bullet-spitter is about 5 times as heavy.

It would be a shame if a protestor accidentally picked up a watergun and merely soaked his opponents in Cleveland next week instead of slaughtering them./

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:33:40am

Right wing nuts, who think nothing of claiming anyone who doesn’t support their views are terrorists.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:33:55am

re: #220 Dr. Matt

Hispanic voter registration has also surged this year….and it’s NOT because they like Trump. I think we’ll see the largest number of Hispanics voting this year.

The GOP is going to regret shitting on Hispanics big time. It was sad enough for them when Obama beat Romney among Cuban-Americans but it’s going to be even worse than that this year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:34:08am

re: #220 Dr. Matt

Hispanic voter registration has also surged this year….and it’s NOT because they like Trump. I think we’ll see the largest number of Hispanics voting this year.

I recall 2008, when I saw news videos of those long lines of voters, it was clear that most of them were not out for McCain/Palin

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:35:08am

re: #188 lawhawk

Polling freakout reminder. Right before the DNC, polling averages had Romney and Obama tied. The convention was Sept 4-6, 2012.

What happened? Obama won by 3.9 points, even though polling had him ahead by about a point.

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Clinton has been ahead consistently, but the media has to treat outlier polls as though this signals the shift to Trump ahead. It’s good for eyeballs, but ignores the reality that Trump polls awfully with minorities and women. Those are the groups that will help decide the outcome.

I agree. The difference, of course, is that Romney wasn’t a fascist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:35:46am

re: #223 lawhawk

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Right wing nuts, who think nothing of claiming anyone who doesn’t support their views are terrorists.

So Jim about the gays needing to go back to their “home in the GOP”, how does it feel knowing that your own party thinks you need reparative therapy because of whom you’re attracted to?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:36:27am

re: #223 lawhawk

Wow! Obama Meets with Black Lives Matter Wednesday - Will Meet With Alton Sterling’s Son Thursday t.co via @gatewaypundit
— Jim Hoft

WOW! Was Jim dropped on his head as a child?

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:36:29am

Heh, even Jonah Goldberg knows these polls are BS:

That’s a combo platter of Rassmussen and TheHill, which touts everything as though it’s the end-all.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:37:17am

re: #229 lawhawk

Heh, even Jonah Goldberg knows these polls are BS:

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That’s a combo platter of Rassmussen and TheHill, which touts everything as though it’s the end-all.

If Jonah knows it’s bs, that tells you a lot. That dude is a dyed in the wool hack.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:37:26am

re: #223 lawhawk

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Right wing nuts, who think nothing of claiming anyone who doesn’t support their views are terrorists.

Seeing just how many people salivate at the idea of running a car through a protest and demanding acquittal for anyone who does so (since, you know, it’ll be obvious self defense since all those protesters are violent criminal thugs), I’ve pretty much just resigned myself that this kind of thinking isn’t going to ever be punished, but rather exalted and praised to high upon top.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:38:14am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:38:15am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One RNC speaker, Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke, said he thinks Black Lives Matter is about to team up w ISIS

Because a certain subset of Americans believes that Latinos, blacks and Muslims all pose an existential threat to our Way of Life

Clarke is black, but yes.

Conservative media trying to turn Black Lives Matter into New Black Radical Panther Party.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:38:22am

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:39:51am

I’m actually very, very surprised that Sarah Palin is not on the RNC list of speakers.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:39:57am

re: #234 Sir John Barron

Clarke is black, but yes.

Conservative media trying to turn Black Lives Matter into New Black Radical Panther Party.

It’s upsetting how much they seem to be succeeding in that goal, at least perception-wise.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:39:58am

re: #234 Sir John Barron

Clarke is black, but yes.

Conservative media trying to turn Black Lives Matter into New Black Radical Panther Party.

They’ve been wanting to do that from the start. And then you have “respected conservative” publications like the NRO calling DeRay a “millenial race baiter.” Yeah because NRO would never racebait. It never employed actual honest to God white nationalists to write for their shitty magazine but DeRay suggesting that unarmed black people who get killed by the cops are somehow entitled to justice is just racebaiting.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:40:23am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Exactly. That said, I’m glad she did apologize because it shows she unlike Trump and the GOP can admit when she feels she’s been wrong.

I would rather she had not made the remarks to begin with. But an apology serves no purpose other than to reward those who bitched about it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:40:30am

re: #237 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

It’s upsetting how much they seem to be succeeding in that goal, at least perception-wise.

I know. One of my friends posts anti-BLM bs.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:40:37am

Good ad and she’s right. I’ve told this story here before, but my son came up to me one day and said he thought Trump was all wrong and he didn’t agree with him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:40:47am

re: #203 Dr. Matt

Here’s Why Quinnipiac’s Polls Showing Trump Leading Clinton Are Totally Wrong

Translation: Quinnipiac is trying to create a media shitshow by “rigging their polls for the best possible Trump outcome”.

I respect your take, but Nate Silver, who is no rightwing apologist, has Quinnipiac ranked as a highly reputable pollster. The important things to keep in mind is that its only July, and its only one poll. Things will come more into focus after both parties’ conventions in August.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:40:50am

re: #239 Sir John Barron

I would rather she had not made the remarks to begin with. But an apology serves no purpose other than to reward those who bitched about it.

Fair point.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:41:50am

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe…

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:42:54am

re: #237 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

It’s upsetting how much they seem to be succeeding in that goal, at least perception-wise.

How much of a political joke is she at this point - even the joke of a Trump campaign thinks she’s a joke. Sad.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:43:16am

re: #217 The Vicious Babushka

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If that map held through to Election Day, Hillary would win 332-206, or a “landslide” in Republican parlance. To have any chance of swinging that board, Trump would need to win all of the swing states. Even if he managed to win PA and FL, he’d need to flip at least two blue states to put him over 270.

This is why I’m not sweating the polls right now.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:43:25am

The reason why I’m optimistic is I just can’t see Trump winning any states that McCain and Romney could not win and what’s more is I even see him losing some states both won. I also think people know how they feel about Trump and Clinton by and large.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:45:13am

re: #245 makeitstop

How much of a political joke is she at this point - even the joke of a Trump campaign thinks she’s a joke. Sad.

Eh?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:45:45am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

Fair point.

Liberals need to master the art of the non-apology.

“I’m sorry if anyone was offended….”

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:46:38am

re: #242 Big Beautiful Door

The two are not separate and distinct. If Q-pac is using a statistical model that is flawed, their outcomes will be off. That’s what I stated above. But even 538 identifies Q-pac with a 1 point bias towards the GOP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:47:15am

re: #246 Targetpractice

This is why I’m not sweating the polls right now.

News networks need to make it into a horse race, right now the only option is to show Hillary with a commanding lead and make a big news item out of it every time Trump inches up a few tents of a percentage point…

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:47:22am

re: #249 Sir John Barron

Liberals need to master the art of the non-apology.

“I’m sorry if anyone was offended….”

Ideally, we wouldn’t need to thread the line of non-pology, but face it, the current reality we face punishes honesty and humility. Better to project your failings onto your opponent than to admit them and try to engender trust via respectability.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:47:47am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:48:04am

re: #221 Dr Lizardo

I look at that map, and I’ll see is that there’s pretty much no way Trump can win the Electoral College.

And that’s that. Presumably, Trump being Trump, he’ll sue someone because the Electoral College is PROOF THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!! or some such bullshit.

I look at it and see several ways Trump can win. Its not likely, but its possible, and that’s bad enough.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:48:16am

re: #242 Big Beautiful Door

I respect your take, but Nate Silver, who is no rightwing apologist, has Quinnipiac ranked as a highly reputable pollster. The important things to keep in mind is that its only July, and its only one poll. Things will come more into focus after both parties’ conventions in August.

I don’t think anyone is questing Quinnipiac as a polling institute. But, that doesn’t change the fact that, as noted by politicususa.com, that they are making assumptions that White voter turnout will go up, African-American turnout will stay the same, and Hispanic turnout will drop. This is something he never directly addressed in his analysis: fivethirtyeight.com

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:48:34am

re: #244 Dr. Matt

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe…

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Very, very nice! I’d take any one of them.

BTW - Fender has a new site up for a line of guitars under the rubric the ‘Mod Shop.’ Basically off-the-shelf parts that you can custom order for a lot more money than an off the rack guitar.

I wrote about it on my blog. It’s clever in a kind of dishonest way.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:50:51am

I think the debates will show a lot of people who for some reason are undecided what a buffoon Trump really is.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:51:05am

re: #248 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Eh?

Sorry, I seem to have responded to the wrong post. Need moar coffee.

I was referring to Palin not getting a slot at the convention. Hell, even the shunned Trump daughter is speaking. Sister Sarah must be spitting nails right now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:53:53am

re: #250 lawhawk

The two are not separate and distinct. If Q-pac is using a statistical model that is flawed, their outcomes will be off. That’s what I stated above. But even 538 identifies Q-pac with a 1 point bias towards the GOP.

True, but in his statistical models Silver takes every polling organizations biases into account, which is why its disconcerting that his models give Trump a one in three chance of winning.

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gwangung  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:55:40am

re: #242 Big Beautiful Door

I respect your take, but Nate Silver, who is no rightwing apologist, has Quinnipiac ranked as a highly reputable pollster. The important things to keep in mind is that its only July, and its only one poll. Things will come more into focus after both parties’ conventions in August.

Quninnipiac may be reputable, but if their model is bad, it’s bad. Looking at the methodology, it is indeed apparent they’re making some very questionable assumptions about likely voters (for example, assuming black voting will be down, when African American women are among the most loyal of all voting blocs for the past several decades).

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:55:45am

re: #202 makeitstop

I had the movie right, but the wrong actor.

I actually saw that movie in a theater when I was a kid. It was funny, but kinda depressing at the same time.

I remember being creeped out seeing Godfrey Cambridge in whiteface in the beginning of the movie. Then I relaxed when he was actually himself as a Black man. Which in a way made the movie more powerful.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:58:30am

re: #260 gwangung

Quninnipiac may be reputable, but if their model is bad, it’s bad. Looking at the methodology, it is indeed apparent they’re making some very questionable assumptions about likely voters (for example, assuming black voting will be down, when African American women are among the most loyal of all voting blocs for the past several decades).

Its not an unreasonable assumption that African-American turnout will drop a bit from the all-time high in 2012 when Barack Obama was on the ballot. Now I believe that Trump is uniquely polarizing, and that he will spur a very high turnout, but Democrats have to make that happen; they can’t assume it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:03:07am

re: #261 ObserverArt

I remember being creeped out seeing Godfrey Cambridge in whiteface in the beginning of the movie. Then I relaxed when he was actually himself as a Black man. Which in a way made the movie more powerful.

Godfrey Cambridge was a hell of a good actor who left us far too soon (died at 43). He starred in Cotton Comes To Harlem, one of my fave films.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:10:54am

re: #262 Big Beautiful Door

Its not an unreasonable assumption that African-American turnout will drop a bit from the all-time high in 2012 when Barack Obama was on the ballot. Now I believe that Trump is uniquely polarizing, and that he will spur a very high turnout, but Democrats have to make that happen; they can’t assume it.

I think one of the big gripes that is it assumes the Hispanic vote will be down when there’s little to suggest that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:11:14am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:12:34am

Nothing is gained by this. Absolutely nothing…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:14:08am

re: #267 FormerDirtDart

Nothing is gained by this. Absolutely nothing…

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Agreed.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:15:19am

re: #267 FormerDirtDart

Nothing is gained by this. Absolutely nothing…

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And it’s likely one asshat ruining it for everyone and prompting the same ‘hunting season on cops!!’ freakout.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:17:04am

re: #269 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

And it’s likely one asshat ruining it for everyone and prompting the same ‘hunting season on cops!!’ freakout.

It could’ve been anybody, including a rightwinger.

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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:17:36am

re: #270 Big Beautiful Door

It could’ve been anybody, including a rightwinger.

Even odds for Left v Right minded folk to have done this.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:18:33am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just the man to appoint Foreign Secretary when the UK is about to enter into its most critical negotiations since WWII./

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:19:47am

re: #272 Big Beautiful Door

Just the man to appoint Foreign Secretary when the UK is about to enter into its most critical negotiations since WWII./

Yeah pretty bizarre. Maybe he was appointed to ensure he would have to help fix the mess he helped create. But even assuming that generous reading, kind of risky.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:20:14am

re: #270 Big Beautiful Door

re: #271 Franklin

It might not even matter who did this. Who do you think is going to get the heat for it in return?

Two hints: 1) They’re probably not going to be Republicans, and 2) They’re probably not going to be white.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:20:29am

re: #261 ObserverArt

I remember being creeped out seeing Godfrey Cambridge in whiteface in the beginning of the movie. Then I relaxed when he was actually himself as a Black man. Which in a way made the movie more powerful.

Yeah, that was weird. The only exposure I’d ever had to Cambridge was seeing him on the Ed Sullivan Show. The whiteface thing was, indeed, a little shocking.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:21:39am

re: #267 FormerDirtDart

Cops freak out over vandalism of a police memorial and are on-edge. Blacks are on edge every time they see a cop, because even if they’ve done nothing wrong, they could end up dead - a statistic like any number of examples.

No one in the black community is immune to the racism inherent in the law enforcement system, not US Senators, not famous music producers who are driving brand new cars, nor the guy on the street just trying to get by.

Even if you do everything right and are successful by any measure, you’re going to get hassled by cops because you look like you fit the wrong demographic, you look like a suspect in a crime, or otherwise fit the bill to fill a quota or are needed to help raise revenues for the local jurisdiction.

Think I’m being overly critical here? Every single one of those kinds of acts has occurred and will continue occurring until there’s concrete action across a wide range of social/political/legal avenues.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:21:58am

Well, my Kindle Fire and Echo should arrive today. Can’t wait for my new toys.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:22:47am

re: #274 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Why should anyone take any heat for this? It’s defacement of a statue. Were White people harassed when Black churches went up in flames a few Summers ago?

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:23:25am

re: #276 lawhawk

Nor that really famous black physicist: dailykos.com.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:23:46am

re: #276 lawhawk

Cops freak out over vandalism of a police memorial and are on-edge. Blacks are on edge every time they see a cop, because even if they’ve done nothing wrong, they could end up dead - a statistic like any number of examples.

No one in the black community is immune to the racism inherent in the law enforcement system, not US Senators, not famous music producers who are driving brand new cars, nor the guy on the street just trying to get by.

Even if you do everything right and are successful by any measure, you’re going to get hassled by cops because you look like you fit the wrong demographic, you look like a suspect in a crime, or otherwise fit the bill to fill a quota or are needed to help raise revenues for the local jurisdiction.

Think I’m being overly critical here? Every single one of those kinds of acts has occurred and will continue occurring until there’s concrete action across a wide range of social/political/legal avenues.

And then outside observers will do their best to blameshift onto you for not doing everything the cop asked of you, and even if you did, your attitude will have been to blame for escalating, etc. etc. etc. It’ll be your fault even no matter what you do, because when it comes to cops, it’s always the minority’s fault, and who the fuck are you to claim racism when some minorities are cops too.

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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:24:45am
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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:25:10am

Today in Stupidity (if it was posted earlier, I apologise.)
Florida mosque removed as polling place.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:25:21am

re: #278 Patricia Kayden

Why should anyone take any heat for this? It’s defacement of a statue. Were White people harassed when Black churches went up in flames a few Summers ago?

No one should take the heat for it except the specific vandal.

But if you’re not expecting a whole host of people to use this as proof of sweeping anti-cop sentiment and/or ammunition against protest groups like BLM, you haven’t been paying attention to the country enough the last few years or so.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:25:52am

re: #278 Patricia Kayden

Why should anyone take any heat for this? It’s defacement of a statue. Were White people harassed when Black churches went up in flames a few Summers ago?

In a normal world, no reason any group or person other than the perpetrator.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:26:11am

re: #281 Franklin

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What does she know? She’s just a woman. //

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:27:35am

re: #223 lawhawk

So when Charles Beau Menefee’s first appearance on Fox or CNN be? Who will offer him the most money to be a commentator?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:29:02am

re: #267 FormerDirtDart

Nothing is gained by this. Absolutely nothing…

Police department ‘on edge’ after memorial is vandalized with red paint

That red paint is on your hands, Obama!!!

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:29:29am

Heh. Great use of Stephen Curry’s daughter, Riley:

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:29:39am

re: #273 Sir John Barron

Yeah pretty bizarre. Maybe he was appointed to ensure he would have to help fix the mess he helped create. But even assuming that generous reading, kind of risky.

Perhaps May has a strategy. Since Johnson promised puppies and rainbows if Brexit passed, let him be the one to fail to deliver.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:29:41am

re: #274 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

It might not even matter who did this. Who do you think is going to get the heat for it in return?

Two hints: 1) They’re probably not going to be Republicans, and 2) They’re probably not going to be white.

we have no fucking idea…but it would be highly unpatriotic not to pin it on BLM

/

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:30:23am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

I expect that Trump will invite them both to NY tomorrow, consult with his “board advisors” - his kids - and fire one of them.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:31:15am

re: #283 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

Back in the 50s and 60s, there were people screaming that Dr. King was a Communist Agitator. It’s not surprising when Conservatives denigrate Black Activists. That’s to be expected and I’m sure BLM activists understand that they will always have detractors.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:33:21am

re: #203 Dr. Matt

Yeah, Quinnipiac sold out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:33:34am

re: #292 Patricia Kayden

Back in the 50s and 60s, there were people screaming that Dr. King was a Communist Agitator. It’s not surprising when Conservatives denigrate Black Activists. That’s to be expected and I’m sure BLM activists understand that they will always have detractors.

red paint on a statue is not the same as blood on an unarmed suspect

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:35:26am

WHEN GIANT SPIDERS ATTACK!!

Weather camera spider scares Global BC meteorologist Kristi Gordon

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:36:17am

Kindly old Ma McConnell is going to be in Cleveland next week.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:37:09am

re: #296 Skip Intro

Kindly old Ma McConnell is going to be in Cleveland next week.

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That’s actually quite well done.

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nines09  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:37:55am

Hey. Another list of people who will not be speaking at the GOP Flaming Dumpster- O-Rama. An Open Letter From Technology Sector Leaders On Donald Trump’s Candidacy For President

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:38:31am

re: #250 lawhawk

538 is using past elections to judge reputation.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:39:15am

re: #295 Dr Lizardo

WHEN GIANT SPIDERS ATTACK!!

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I for one welcome our new arachnid overlords.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:41:39am

re: #300 Targetpractice

I for one welcome our new arachnid overlords.

I’m not sure I can handle the flies in the ice cream.

“Keep Summer safe.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:42:08am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we have no fucking idea…but it would be highly unpatriotic not to pin it on BLM

/

This is the sort of thing that drives me nuts, the group responsibility thing. Sen. Tim Scott of SC gave a speech on the floor of the Senate yesterday about what he’s gone through, stopped repeatedly because his car is too nice so cops think he stole it, or asked for his Senate ID despite wearing his Senate pin. It’s the sort of thing that you might think would give even racism deniers pause.

You’d think that, but you’d be wrong. Here’s a comment on FB, from a TPM post about the speech:

Tim, you’re profiled, not targeted, by Police because our race commits the majority of the crimes. You weren’t arrested, beat up or shot because you were polite. Now stfu and get back to work!

And the thing is, I’m pretty sure the commenter would say he’s not racist and thinks what he posted is simply the reasonable point of view.

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:42:19am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:43:34am

re: #300 Targetpractice

I for one welcome our new arachnid overlords.

For some reason, my mind flashed on to Kingdom Of The Spiders, a fairly silly film, one of those “nature takes her revenge on mankind” flicks that were briefly popular in the 1970’s. The ending of that film

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where the whole town is encased in a massive spider web

for some odd reason still kinda gives me the creeps. I have nothing against spiders, but I really hate it when I walk into a web.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:45:25am

New page:
Anticipating Possible Medical Need, Heart to Heart Mobilizing for RNC

This highly regarded and experienced disaster relief organization is sending one its mobile medical units to Cleveland specifically because of the threat of violence.

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nines09  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:46:03am

re: #296 Skip Intro

Kindly old Ma McConnell is going to be in Cleveland next week.

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Here’s the text of the speech; “Arf! Arf! Arf arf! Grrrrrrrrrr…….Grrrrrrrrrrr…ARF! ARF ARF ARF!!!! GrrrrrrARF!!!!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:47:07am

re: #275 makeitstop

Yeah, that was weird. The only exposure I’d ever had to Cambridge was seeing him on the Ed Sullivan Show. The whiteface thing was, indeed, a little shocking.

I think the Wayans brothers wore it better (“White Chicks”)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:47:25am

re: #302 Blind Frog Belly White

This is the sort of thing that drives me nuts, the group responsibility thing. Sen. Tim Scott of SC gave a speech on the floor of the Senate yesterday about what he’s gone through, stopped repeatedly because his car is too nice so cops think he stole it, or asked for his Senate ID despite wearing his Senate pin. It’s the sort of thing that you might think would give even racism deniers pause.

You’d think that, but you’d be wrong. Here’s a comment on FB, from a TPM post about the speech:

And the thing is, I’m pretty sure the commenter would say he’s not racist and thinks what he posted is simply the reasonable point of view.

It doesn’t matter who says it unfortunately. Fact of the matter is white right wingers especially suffer an inability to empathize with people who aren’t like them. And that’s part of why their ideology is so rotten. When you don’t think “What if that had been me” ever, you tend not to care about other people.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:47:47am

re: #302 Blind Frog Belly White

This is the sort of thing that drives me nuts, the group responsibility thing. Sen. Tim Scott of SC gave a speech on the floor of the Senate yesterday about what he’s gone through, stopped repeatedly because his car is too nice so cops think he stole it, or asked for his Senate ID despite wearing his Senate pin. It’s the sort of thing that you might think would give even racism deniers pause.

You’d think that, but you’d be wrong. Here’s a comment on FB, from a TPM post about the speech:

And the thing is, I’m pretty sure the commenter would say he’s not racist and thinks what he posted is simply the reasonable point of view.

The thing the commenter misses: if something DID happen to Mr. Scott, how many would rush to claim that it was his fault and he was not sufficiently polite or calm enough?

And notice this is never pushed on the ‘default’ population. Because, as I’ve said before, they get to be individuals, they get to be only ‘bad apples’, the exceptions that prove the rule. If you’re not of the default class, anything anyone does will immediately be applied wholesale to their group and if you’re not a perfect angel (and even if you are) it’ll be your fault, it’ll be always your fault, because you’re just like all of ‘them’. “They’ are all the same, and if one of ‘them’ is not the same, ‘they’re’ just one of the ‘good ones’.

That’s what this whole thing means. It means having the worst immediately thought of you no matter what you do and have your every moment scrutinized so it can be applied in blanket generalization to your entire group, and even if you’re a good person, you’re really not a good person because you’re part of ‘that’ group, so fuck you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:47:57am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

For some reason, my mind flashed on to Kingdom Of The Spiders, a fairly silly film, one of those “nature takes her revenge on mankind” flicks that were briefly popular in the 1970’s. The ending of that film

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for some odd reason still kinda gives me the creeps. I have nothing against spiders, but I really hate it when I walk into a web.

Don’t come to NorCal during Orb Weaver season, then. It will freak you right the fuck out. BIG webs so strong they don’t stick to you when you leap back in alarm at walking into them, with big spiders in the center!

That time of the year, I walk through the part of our yard that has trees waving a stick in front of me. You can even feel it through the stick when it hits one.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:49:04am

I’ve been reading lately about the early Great Society years, particularly the 1964-1965 period when so much signature legislation was passed (The Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Medicare/Medicaid, Federal aid to education). Truly a remarkable passage in our nation’s history. Can’t imagine the amount of couch-fainting and pearl clutching that went on then. It must have been staggering to behold.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:49:55am

re: #310 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t come to NorCal during Orb Weaver season, then. It will freak you right the fuck out. BIG webs so strong they don’t stick to you when you leap back in alarm at walking into them, with big spiders in the center!

That time of the year, I walk through the part of our yard that has trees waving a stick in front of me. You can even feel it through the stick when it hits one.

Wow. That’s actually impressive.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:50:41am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

I’ve been reading lately about the early Great Society years, particularly the 1964-1965 period when so much signature legislation was passed (The Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Medicare/Medicaid, Federal aid to education). Truly a remarkable passage in our nation’s history. Can’t imagine the amount of couch-fainting and pearl clutching that went on then. It must have been staggering to behold.

It only would have been able to be passed with a president with the skills that LBJ had. I love Kennedy but there’s no way he would have gotten that legislation through.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:51:17am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

For some reason, my mind flashed on to Kingdom Of The Spiders, a fairly silly film, one of those “nature takes her revenge on mankind” flicks that were briefly popular in the 1970’s. The ending of that film

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for some odd reason still kinda gives me the creeps. I have nothing against spiders, but I really hate it when I walk into a web.

For those of us old enough to have seen that movie, we will always remember the end. I also remember a TV movie, I believe it was just called “Sss” (I forget how many s’s), about an island resort where a madman gave people injections that turned them into snakes. I still remember the guy pulling his skin off when he was shaving and turning in to a cobra.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:52:58am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

I’ve been reading lately about the early Great Society years, particularly the 1964-1965 period when so much signature legislation was passed (The Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Medicare/Medicaid, Federal aid to education). Truly a remarkable passage in our nation’s history. Can’t imagine the amount of couch-fainting and pearl clutching that went on then. It must have been staggering to behold.

It caused a mass migration of whites from the Democratic to the Republican party.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:53:08am

On another note, I’m tired of the OMG BLACKS COMMIT VIOLENCE AGAINST OTHER BLACKS. Uh yeah and so do other whites but you never see commentators going “Why doesn’t anyone condemn this in the white community.”White people committing crimes against other whites is just crime. Black people committing crimes against other black people is something that the President and every last Civil Rights Activist needs to condemn in the strongest terms. We have a long way to go on Civil Rights because qutie frankly there’s large parts of this country never accepted it in the first place and they had white Presidents like Nixon and Reagan re-enforcing their prejudices rather than challenging them to confront their prejudices.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:53:29am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

It only would have been able to be passed with a president with the skills that LBJ had. I love Kennedy but there’s no way he would have gotten that legislation through.

Yeah he pulled some neat tricks. I forget the specifics exactly, but when Medicare was passed and there were rumors the AMA would leads its doctors to not participate, LBJ had the leaders in the WH and brought the media in and said something to the effect of how he (LBJ) was sure the doctors would not thwart the bill, etc. Basically shamed them into not causing problems.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:54:44am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:54:47am

re: #315 Belafon

It caused a mass migration of whites from the Democratic to the Republican party.

Well yes it did. And the butthurt continues today. But those acts have held up. Although the GOP is chipping away at the VRA.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:54:55am

re: #314 Belafon

For those of us old enough to have seen that movie, we will always remember the end. I also remember a TV movie, I believe it was just called “Sss” (I forget how many s’s), about an island resort where a madman gave people injections that turned them into snakes. I still remember the guy pulling his skin off when he was shaving and turning in to a cobra.

I’ve seen Sssssss - Dirk Benedict was in that one, in his pre-“Battlestar Galactica” days (the original 1970’s TV series). Heh. That brings back some memories.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:55:12am

re: #315 Belafon

It caused a mass migration of whites from the Democratic to the Republican party.

We’ve talked about it before but until the Great Society, very few working class whites had a problem with government playing a role in improving people’s lots. It wasn’t until the 60’s when LBJ had the “nerve” to decide that the promise of the New Deal extended to people of all racial backgrounds that they started to turn against it and why the GOP successfully was able to adapt “anti big government” positions. Yes, there was always a part of the right that always did oppose the New Deal and its promise but they were a minority even within Republicans.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:55:37am

re: #318 The Vicious Babushka

Oh dear how mean she is, how can she do this, our Liberal Media will ask.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:55:57am

re: #317 Sir John Barron

Yeah he pulled some neat tricks. I forget the specifics exactly, but when Medicare was passed and there were rumors the AMA would leads its doctors to not participate, LBJ had the leaders in the WH and brought the media in and said something to the effect of how he (LBJ) was sure the doctors would not thwart the bill, etc. Basically shamed them into not causing problems.

He was brilliant. For all his faults in Vietnam and as a person, I do like LBJ.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:56:52am

I don’t remember seeing anything here about a Black Cleveland Browns football player posting a very over-the-top Instagram with a really nasty image on it that not only pissed off the Cleveland and other police departments, but got him in deep with the team too.

Not too bright an idea. And then you have to apologize which no one is going to hear or accept in this current environment.

Here is a bit of a story about it. It explains the image enough so you don’y have to see it.

Cleveland.com - Browns’ Isaiah Crowell to apologize for post of police officer getting throat slashed

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Browns running back Isaiah Crowell plans to apologize Monday for posting a drawing of a police officer having his throat slashed on Instagram, a league source told cleveland.com.

The person slashing the officer’s throat is wearing a black jacket and hood with is face covered. He’s wearing black gloves, has an ankh pendent around his neck and an American flag backpack on. Blood is spurting out of the officer’s neck and mouth, which is covered by the murderer’s hand.

Crowell’s caption read, “They give police all types of weapons and they continually choose to kill us….#Weak.”

- - CUT - -

People on both sides of this policing issues need to chill out. The more everyone gets out of control with their statements, posts and such the more the anger builds.

And the fact it was a Cleveland player with the convention hitting the city in a few days just invites more heat on the city.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:57:43am

The fact of the matter is the modern conservative movement owes its success to whites angry that LBJ expanded the role of government to help people of all racial backgrounds. And that’s where Bernie Sanders lost me when he lamented the departure of the white working class away from the Democratic Party. If these people think that African-Americans aren’t entitled to the same benefits and promise of better government that I am then I don’t want them in my party.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:58:25am

GOP family values. Tennessee edition. This is the guy that the state legislature basically banned from the building except on official state business because he repeatedly engaged in misconduct:

He’s also alleged to have had an affair with another legislator (a fellow GOPer) who later resigned.

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No Depression  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:59:05am

re: #318 The Vicious Babushka

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Love the snark.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:02:25am

Freepers spoiling for a fight as they respond to the news that New Black Panthers will carry guns at Cleveland protests.
New Black Panther Party to Attend Pre-RNC Rallies Carrying Firearms
(I seldom put freeper comments behind the private screen, but this is seriously off the rails even for them.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:03:41am

re: #328 Shiplord Kirel

Freepers spoiling for a fight as they respond to the news that New Black Panthers will carry guns at Cleveland protests.
New Black Panther Party to Attend Pre-RNC Rallies Carrying Firearms
(I seldom put freeper comments behind the private screen, but this is seriously off the rails even for them.)

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They want lax firearms laws, they got lax firearms laws.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:06:06am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

The fact of the matter is the modern conservative movement owes its success to whites angry that LBJ expanded the role of government to help people of all racial backgrounds. And that’s where Bernie Sanders lost me when he lamented the departure of the white working class away from the Democratic Party. If these people think that African-Americans aren’t entitled to the same benefits and promise of better government that I am then I don’t want them in my party.

Yeah I actually don’t mind Bernie or anyone else wanting to highlight the conditions faced by the working class of either race. The conditions faced by most people in Appalachia for example comes to mind. Their conditions weren’t too prosperous to begin with but the benefits of the modern economy have largely passed them by. So I welcome any effort to direct the public’s attention that way. But Bernie’s policy agenda seemed pretty limited to me, all the ranting about the 1% and Wall Street, and he didn’t appear to have much interest in, or experience, with the party’s racial minorities and other policy issues.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:06:48am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

They want lax firearms laws, they got lax firearms laws.

That’s different.
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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:07:14am

re: #328 Shiplord Kirel

Freepers spoiling for a fight as they respond to the news that New Black Panthers will carry guns at Cleveland protests.
New Black Panther Party to Attend Pre-RNC Rallies Carrying Firearms
(I seldom put freeper comments behind the private screen, but this is seriously off the rails even for them.)

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If you can’t handle blacks having the same gun rights as you, then you don’t care about gun rights, only white rights.

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:07:32am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:07:54am

re: #324 ObserverArt

Hmmm, someone else who should probably delete his account.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:08:05am

re: #330 Sir John Barron

Yeah I actually don’t mind Bernie or anyone else wanting to highlight the conditions faced by the working class of either race. The conditions faced by most people in Appalachia for example comes to mind. Their conditions weren’t too prosperous to begin with but the benefits of the modern economy have largely passed them by. So I welcome any effort to direct the public’s attention that way. But Bernie’s policy agenda seemed pretty limited to me, all the ranting about the 1% and Wall Street, and he didn’t appear to have much interest in, or experience, with the party’s racial minorities and other policy issues.

Correct. He just seemed indifferent to a lot of the racism that exists. I don’t think he’s a bigoted person but I do think he’s so focused on economic matters and railing against Wall Street and the 1% that he ignored that.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:08:13am

re: #324 ObserverArt

I don’t remember seeing anything here about a Black Cleveland Browns football player posting a very over-the-top Instagram with a really nasty image on it that not only pissed off the Cleveland and other police departments, but got him in deep with the team too.

Not too bright an idea. And then you have to apologize which no one is going to hear or accept in this current environment.

Here is a bit of a story about it. It explains the image enough so you don’y have to see it.

Cleveland.com - Browns’ Isaiah Crowell to apologize for post of police officer getting throat slashed

People on both sides of this policing issues need to chill out. The more everyone gets out of control with their statements, posts and such the more the anger builds.

And the fact it was a Cleveland player with the convention hitting the city in a few days just invites more heat on the city.

Hopefully, it won’t drown out the largely positive message sent out by Bron, Melo, CP3 and DWade at the ESPYs last night. Those were exceptional speeches.

But I have little faith that the NBA players’ message will get more play than this stupid Instagram post.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:08:31am

re: #333 Lidane

There it is. Surprisingly boring.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:08:39am

re: #333 Lidane

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No surprise there if it’s true.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:11:27am

re: #333 Lidane

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Congrats, Pence. You’re a better suckup than Christie or Newtie.

Now the plane’s over there, go home.

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BeachDem  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:14:47am

re: #93 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From Anne Laurie at Balloon Juice:

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Note in particular the nay vote from Tim Scott—(R-Scottville.)

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:14:58am

Are there sun spots hitting the earth today???

I’m having all kinds of issues with electronics today.

Started earlier in my kitchen. I was making a sandwich and the little radio I listen to ESPN on went bonkers. The local FM station must have had a glitch…it just went to no sound and then started playing ESPN theme music over and over.

I’m working on a logo design that has been kicking my ass…and then my computer locked up when I was trying to do a save and I didn’t know if I’d lose the file I was working on. Shut down, came back up and luckily the files wasn’t corrupted.

Just turned the TV on and the cable box is only displaying a few channels. So, I am resetting that now too.

Electronics…so convenient they tell me.

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plansbandc  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:17:05am

Pence, eh? Further proof that the fascist yam is a HUGE friend to the gays.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:17:23am

Mike Pence, whose polling in Indiana is so crappy that Indiana residents are breathing a sigh of relief that Trump is taking him off their hands.

New Jersey residents are pissed that Trump couldn’t have gotten Reek, aka Gov. Christie off our hands.

Pence signed into law one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country. In fact, he backed such an extreme anti-abortion law that some GOPers balked at backing it (and a federal judge has already ruled that ND’s version of the same law was unconstitutional).

He is no moderate. In fact, he’s a pro-birth fanatic who could care less about women or children who are actually born.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:18:36am

re: #343 lawhawk

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Mike Pence, whose polling in Indiana is so crappy that Indiana residents are breathing a sigh of relief that Trump is taking him off their hands.

New Jersey residents are pissed that Trump couldn’t have gotten Reek, aka Gov. Christie off our hands.

Pence signed into law one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country. In fact, he backed such an extreme anti-abortion law that some GOPers balked at backing it (and a federal judge has already ruled that ND’s version of the same law was unconstitutional).

He is no moderate. In fact, he’s a pro-birth fanatic who could care less about women or children who are actually born.

Very anti-gay too.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:19:05am

re: #334 Sir John Barron

Hmmm, someone else who should probably delete his account.

He may have deleted his football career. All the issues the Cleveland Browns have had I have a feeling the new coach (Hue Jackson) isn’t the kind of guy that is going to stand for much stupid behavior. He took the job of coaching a questionable team and I think he intends to change the whole atmosphere.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:20:46am

And if you haven’t seen the NBA players’ speeches from the opening of the ESPYs last night, they are well worth your time.

Carmelo Anthony, Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade & LeBron James opening ESPYS Awards 2016

I’m so proud of Carmelo Anthony for starting this ball rolling and calling on his fellow players to step up.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:21:47am

re: #343 lawhawk

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Mike Pence, whose polling in Indiana is so crappy that Indiana residents are breathing a sigh of relief that Trump is taking him off their hands.

New Jersey residents are pissed that Trump couldn’t have gotten Reek, aka Gov. Christie off our hands.

Pence signed into law one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country. In fact, he backed such an extreme anti-abortion law that some GOPers balked at backing it (and a federal judge has already ruled that ND’s version of the same law was unconstitutional).

He is no moderate. In fact, he’s a pro-birth fanatic who could care less about women or children who are actually born.

I have some friends over in Indy…they hate Pence with a passion. They hate Trump too…so I can just imagine how this ticket is going to go over with all of them.

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Snarknado!  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:22:22am

re: #277 Sir John Barron

Well, my Kindle Fire and Echo should arrive today. Can’t wait for my new toys.

And my new camera.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:25:39am

en.wikipedia.org

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Ming5000  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:26:16am

re: #341 ObserverArt

Can you smell burnt popcorn?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:26:32am

In 2000, Pence stated “Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexual’s [sic][42] as a ‘discreet [sic] and insular minority’ entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and ethnic minorities.” He called for “an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organisations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus” and instead advocated that resources be directed towards conversion therapy programs.[43][44][45]

Pence has said that homosexuals should not serve in the military, saying “Homosexuality is incompatible with military service because the presence of homosexuals in the ranks weakens unit cohesion” and in 2010 stated that repealing Don’t ask, don’t tell would “have an impact on unit cohesion”.[46] Pence opposed the 2009 Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act, saying that Obama wanted to “advance a radical social agenda”[47] and said that pastors “could be charged or be subject to intimidation for simply expressing a Biblical worldview on the issue of homosexual behavior.”[48]

Pence opposes both same-sex marriage and civil unions.[49] He has referred to Harvard sociologist Pitirim Sorokin’s findings that throughout history, societal collapse was brought about by the deterioration of marriage and family.[50] He has advocated a constitutional same-sex marriage ban, but did not champion such a proposed ban for his first year as governor.[51]

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Alephnaught  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:26:58am

At the moment, BBC4 are continuing their repeats of Top of the Pops. We’re into early 1982 now, a recent show featuring John Peel introducing amongst other things, Kraftwerk at No. 1 with “The Model”, having introduced various acts such as OMD, that have been clearly influenced by them. One such group is Soft Cell, and tonight, we get treated to the “Non-Stop Exotic Video Show” version of the promo for their magnificent fourth single.

Someone at the UK’s biggest newspaper must be watching the repeats as well. The headline on today’s front page of The Sun is “May Hello, Dave Goodbye”.

Soft Cell - Say Hello, Wave Goodbye 1982

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:26:58am

TechDirt: Pammycakes has a very contused understanding of the CDA:

As for her lawyers at the American Freedom Law Center (AFLC) they’re just as confused in a blog post about the lawsuit:

Section 230 provides immunity from lawsuits to Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, thereby permitting these social media giants to engage in government-sanctioned censorship and discriminatory business practices free from legal challenge.
It’s not government sanctioned censorship. And the immunity it provides is just that these platforms don’t lose their own protections against liability on the content they leave up just because they choose to take down some other content. Section 230 infers no special benefits to platforms to take down content. It just says that taking down content won’t lose them other protections — protections, I should remind you — that help promote and protect free expression online.

While there have been some questionable CDA 230 rulings lately, this one is an easy one. It should be laughed out of court pretty quickly on the basis of “did you even read the law you’re suing over?”

Techdirt posts obligatory xkcd cartoon as a reference.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:27:36am

re: #343 lawhawk

Mike Pence, whose polling in Indiana is so crappy that Indiana residents are breathing a sigh of relief that Trump is taking him off their hands.

New Jersey residents are pissed that Trump couldn’t have gotten Reek, aka Gov. Christie off our hands.

Pence signed into law one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country. In fact, he backed such an extreme anti-abortion law that some GOPers balked at backing it (and a federal judge has already ruled that ND’s version of the same law was unconstitutional).

He is no moderate. In fact, he’s a pro-birth fanatic who could care less about women or children who are actually born.

New Ad from Clinton in Indiana:

In this time of great struggle, I need to ask those of you in Indiana for one more sacrifice: Do not vote for Donald Trump just to get Mike Pence out of Indiana. The one thing that would be worse than Pike Pence in Indiana is Trump and Pence in charge in Washington, DC. I will find a way, as president, to help you, but we will all be in trouble if Trump wins.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:28:18am

Just saw this ad on CNN

Add it to the Hillary ad with the kids & wow. trump is really an easy target.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:29:36am

re: #355 Stanley Sea

Just saw this ad on CNN

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Add it to the Hillary ad with the kids & wow. trump is really an easy target.

I hope I see that one.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:29:55am

re: #353 Eric The Fruit Bat

government-sanctioned censorship and discriminatory business practices free from legal challenge

Derp

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:30:01am
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Nyet  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:31:14am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s like as if the Brits decided, if we’re gonna turn out country into a dumpster fire, let’s do it quick quick quick.

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:31:52am
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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:32:13am

re: #333 Lidane

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Just got an alert from the New York Times confirming Trump/Pence.

I’m heartbroken, so wanted Newt!

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:32:25am

Heh! Bet Trump’s trying to see how audiences react before dropping the name tomorrow.

Because there’s always a possibility of a Trump-twist, which will be that he goes in a different direction.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:33:41am

re: #350 Ming5000

Can you smell burnt popcorn?

No…just some steam coming off me!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:33:57am

Gonna be funny hearing Pence who got elected to Congress in 1994 and was there for well over a decade rail against Washington.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:34:03am

Only one of Trump’s wives are speaking at the RNC?

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Tigger2  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:35:46am
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:36:23am

Meanwhile, the knives are coming out for @Reince over at the RNC?

This craptacular shitshow just keeps getting better and better. Pop pop pop… popcorn!

Pass the popcorn
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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:37:49am

re: #355 Stanley Sea

Just saw this ad on CNN

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Add it to the Hillary ad with the kids & wow. trump is really an easy target.

That is an excellent ad. They should spend $2 mil on it. It’s that good.

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nines09  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:38:19am

re: #365 I Would Prefer Not To

Only one of Trump’s wives are speaking at the RNC?

And if Newt is the choice for Vice Cinderblock, only one of Newts wives will speak. This one. Bzzzzzz…..Oil Change…….Bzzzzzzz…oil Change…..ZZZZZZ

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:38:20am

re: #367 lawhawk

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This craptacular shitshow just keeps getting better and better. Pop pop pop… popcorn!

Image: Pass the popcorn

Morton Blackwell? I see that the Purple Heart band-aid stunt in no way hurt Blackwell’s RNC leadership status but remember the Republicans love the troops and the Democrats hate them. Nevermind people like Blackwell who mock Purple Heart recipients.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:40:53am

I think Pence (or Newt) will help Trump win in November exactly as much as Ryan helped Romney.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:41:13am
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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:41:24am

The real Republican shitshow right now is this: RNC still frantically trying to stamp out anti-Trump forces at convention:

Twenty-eight. That’s the number Dump Trump forces on the Convention Rules Committee need to send a vote on “unbinding” delegates for a vote of conscience to the convention floor. The fireworks begin Thursday, when the 112-member Rules Committee gavels in. We’ve noted that the RNC is committing more resources to quash the anti-Trump effort than it has working the election in four key swing states. But Politico brings us a reminder of just how much the RNC and Trump are scrambling to keep the vote off the floor.

About a dozen of RNC Chairman Reince Priebus’s most loyal allies who hold seats on the 112-member Rules Committee are working to extinguish the anti-Trump efforts. The existence of the whip team, which includes prominent party figures like Henry Barbour, a party official from Mississippi who is the nephew of former RNC Chairman Haley Barbour, was confirmed by three sources who’ve been briefed on it.

The efforts are extensive enough that the whip team has drafted a map, obtained by POLITICO, of the committee’s seating arrangements that marks where each of the pro-Trump members are sitting and demarcates lines around which committee members each whip is responsible to lobby.

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Nyet  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:42:04am

I don’t see what Newt can possibly add to Trump’s campaign.
Except for solidifying the wingnut base. Which alone is a sign of a crisis.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:42:40am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

I hope I see that one.

This one?

Role Models | Hillary Clinton

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:43:39am

Pence is bugnuts, which means he’s the perfect Trump fit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:44:01am

re: #375 Bubblehead II

This one?

Role Models | Hillary Clinton

No that one called “Standards”, I have a GOP Congresswoman. I meant it’s one I hope to see on TV. Role Models is also good though.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:45:31am

re: #376 lawhawk

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Pence is bugnuts, which means he’s the perfect Trump fit.

What a gem.

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Tigger2  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:45:38am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:46:52am

re: #379 Tigger2

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What Republicans will never get is Latino voters actually take the concept of family seriously and not as a political slogan. I’ve seen it with my own eyes with my niece’s family and their friends.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:47:25am

re: #282 calochortus

(Trying to come up with a sentence that communicates all the emotions I feel about this.)

Got it!

That’s really fucked up.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:49:09am

Pence shouldn’t effect Clinton’s choice. I honestly have no clue who she’ll go with. I was feeling Julian Castro for a long time but I don’t know. I don’t see it being Kaine since I think Clinton really wants to solidify her ties with the liberal parts of the base which we’ve seen with the platform. I like Kaine more than most but I concede that I can see why some aren’t excited by him.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:49:45am

re: #376 lawhawk

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Pence is bugnuts, which means he’s the perfect Trump fit.

Once the oppo team starts in on Pence, the Trump ticket may become even more toxic.

Not that Christie or Gingrich would have fared any better.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:50:25am

Pence to me seems to be a branch to that part of the GOP has never trusted Trump because they feel he’s not right wing enough on certain thigns.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:50:57am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My new go to line now is “prove it”. Not with some stupid crap you saw on the internet, but real proof. I’ll try not to age too much while I wait….

I pissed off one of The Husband’s idiot friends one afternoon right about this time last summer. He was helping replace our AC system that had crashed and was going on and on about ISIS having training camps in GA. This is a guy who comes from a family of cops (he mysteriously did not become one, not sure why) and who not only has an arsenal of weapons, he also can build them. He said he knew the location and everything (turns out that location is a freaking Boy Scout campground). So I said, “OK dude, I’ll go get my camo stuff and let’s go get in your truck and GET THEM!! Come on, we’d never get in trouble, hell, we’d probably get a medal from the Governor or something!” My husband shot me “the look”, lol. And his buddy, called me a smart ass and blew it off. But I mean, come ON, if you’re going to go there, then lets’ go there. Prove your shit or STFU and let the grown ups talk.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:52:02am

re: #359 Nyet

It’s like if the Brits decided, if we’re gonna turn out country into a dumpster fire, let’s do it quick quick quick.

Almost like the Berners that wanted to vote for Trump if they didn’t get Bernie. They wanted the pain of Trump fucking everything up so everyone suffers and then glorious revolutionary change will come from the suffering.

I’m not really into aversion therapy politics.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:52:15am

re: #384 HappyWarrior

Pence to me seems to be a branch to that part of the GOP has never trusted Trump because they feel he’s not right wing enough on certain thigns.

I see Pence as the bald-faced effort to pair Trump with an “experienced” Republican in an effort to give people the false impression that there will be some measure of control over his actions.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:52:39am

re: #383 makeitstop

With that trio, Christie was probably the least objectionable, which is like comparing TB to malaria to Zika. All could kill you, but each has their own insidious methods of doing so.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:53:15am

I was going to wait till tomorrow to publish this, but what the hell it’s almost 1 am here, so it is tomorrow.

Tax stamps on cigarette pack pin armed robbery on dead man, imagines Chuck C. Johnson

Citing unnamed “police sources,” Award Winning JournalistTM and smear merchant Chuck C. Johnson claims tax stamps on a pack of Newport cigarettes “prove” Philando Castile held up a convenience store, so it was perfectly all right for a cop to shoot him dead.

Johnson also has land in the Everglades for sale, cheap!

Here’s how this high IQ-score brain works.

* A tall African-American man held up a convenience store on July 2. He took some cartons of cigarettes.
* Philando Castile is a tall African-American man. (They all look alike.) Also, he has a handgun permit. Or maybe he doesn’t. But he does. Whatever.
* Castile’s lady friend, Lavisha Reynolds, smokes Newports. Also weed. And she bought firecrackers for her 4-year-old girl. She could have been the getaway driver.
* Through some magic only imaginary police officers know, it is possible to track a specific tax stamp to a specific store and furthermore determine whether the carton was stolen or paid for.
* Case closed.

See below for an excerpt from Johnson’s fever dream.

More analysis at gotnwes.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:53:24am

re: #387 Targetpractice

I see Pence as the bald-faced effort to pair Trump with an “experienced” Republican in an effort to give people the false impression that there will be some measure of control over his actions.

There’s that too. Pence definitely doesn’t have questions about his professional qualifications for the job.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:54:41am

re: #389 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I was going to wait till tomorrow to publish this, but what the hell it’s almost 1 am here, so it is tomorrow.

More analysis at gotnwes.com

I said it last night even if the armed robbery is true. It does NOT justify killing him. We take in murderers all the time without a scratch on them. CCJ will do anything ot justify violence against black people. He’s sick.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:54:59am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:55:17am

re: #385 A Mom Anon

My new go to line now is “prove it”. Not with some stupid crap you saw on the internet, but real proof. I’ll try not to age too much while I wait….

I pissed off one of The Husband’s idiot friends one afternoon right about this time last summer. He was helping replace our AC system that had crashed and was going on and on about ISIS having training camps in GA. This is a guy who comes from a family of cops (he mysteriously did not become one, not sure why) and who not only has an arsenal of weapons, he also can build them. He said he knew the location and everything (turns out that location is a freaking Boy Scout campground). So I said, “OK dude, I’ll go get my camo stuff and let’s go get in your truck and GET THEM!! Come on, we’d never get in trouble, hell, we’d probably get a medal from the Governor or something!” My husband shot me “the look”, lol. And his buddy, called me a smart ass and blew it off. But I mean, come ON, if you’re going to go there, then lets’ go there. Prove your shit or STFU and let the grown ups talk.

I’ve heard that ISIS has kudzu camo, so be careful out there!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:55:20am

re: #388 lawhawk

With that trio, Christie was probably the least objectionable, which is like comparing TB to malaria to Zika. All could kill you, but each has their own insidious methods of doing so.

Do I want to kicked in the nuts, punched in the nose, or shot in the gut, that’s pretty much what any of Trump’s VP picks would be.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:56:40am

re: #377 HappyWarrior

No that one called “Standards”, I have a GOP Congresswoman. I meant it’s one I hope to see on TV. Role Models is also good though.

Can’t seem to find it on her You Tube page. Maybe someone with some better Google-Fu will post it.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:56:44am

re: #367 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:57:10am

re: #395 Bubblehead II

Can’t seem to find it on her You Tube page. Maybe someone with some better Google-Fu will post it.

It was the one that SS posted the story on.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:57:15am

re: #389 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Tax stamps could conceivably link a pack of cigarettes to a retail outlet, but there’s no way the cop would have known it.

The cop pulled him over because he looked like a suspect - basically any black man over age 13 and under 65. He was the “type.” Any claims about theft or otherwise is just trying to retcon events and blame the victim in his own murder.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:57:37am

I’m curious what sort of mental editing the Log Cabin Republicans will need to overlook that Trump has put one of the more anti-gay Republican governors on his ticket.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:57:40am

re: #396 Stanley Sea

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Orange asshole plays in elephant shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:58:06am

re: #399 Targetpractice

I’m curious what sort of mental editing the Log Cabin Republicans will need to overlook that Trump has put one of the more anti-gay Republican governors on his ticket.

No kidding. They’ll find a way I’m sure though.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:58:08am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

They want lax firearms laws, they got lax firearms laws.

When the GOP gets the power they want; that is Presidency, Congress, Senate and Supreme Court; their first act will be to pass this into legislation.

“Federal law only applies to people who are white, male, evangelical Christians. Suck it, libtards.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:58:12am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

I said it last night even if the armed robbery is true. It does NOT justify killing him. We take in murderers all the time without a scratch on them. CCJ will do anything ot justify violence against black people. He’s sick.

It’s all lies and innuendos. He doubt he has any reliable police sources in Minnesota, because there is no way to connect Reynolds’ cigarettes to a robbery. Johnson is just making shit up, or blindly trusting his so called sources because they tell him what he wants to hear.

Fucker

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:58:20am

re: #399 Targetpractice

I’m curious what sort of mental editing the Log Cabin Republicans will need to overlook that Trump has put one of the more anti-gay Republican governors on his ticket.

“Yes, another outrageous and offensive decision by our party, but they’re still better than the Democrats who like us, so let’s give them another chance.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:59:19am

re: #393 Barefoot Grin

I’ve heard that ISIS has kudzu camo, so be careful out there!

The camo wraps around the enemy, immobilizing him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:59:46am

re: #404 Sir John Barron

“Yes, another outrageous and offensive decision by our party, but they’re still better than the Democrats who like us, so let’s give them another chance.”

Let’s keep on supporting the party that has its candidates speak with people who want us dead, at least they don’ want to raise our taxes. I’m sorry, I know it’s not my place as a straight man but what a bunch of self hating assholes the LCRs are.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:00:06am

re: #403 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s all lies and innuendos. He doubt he has any reliable police sources in Minnesota, because there is no way to connect Reynolds’ cigarettes to a robbery. Johnson is just making shit up, or blindly trusting his so called sources because they tell him what he wants to hear.

Fucker

He pulls so much shit out of his ass.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:00:47am

OK, I’ve done my part for truth, justice and the American way. Now it’s time for bed.

Later on!

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:00:57am

re: #404 Sir John Barron

“Yes, another outrageous and offensive decision by our party, but they’re still better than the Democrats who like us, so let’s give them another chance.”

“Well, I hate that they think I’m a sin against their angry deity and that if I pray to him that I’ll be cured of what I am, but I do like that their tax proposal.”

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:01:40am

Pence is so into destroying Planned Parenthood, he risked a HIV outbreak - and got one:

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:02:21am

I really expect, and hope, that the RNC convention will turn out to be a big nothingburger, with much mirth to be had from Trumpist buffoonery and some screaming and shouting in the streets, but no real violence. Even so, there is a real risk of major violence, with dozens or even hundreds of casualties, if things spin completely out of control. One factor that occurred to me is that Kasich is in charge of the Ohio National Guard and State Police. Could he precipitate a disaster by allowing politics to influence a deployment decision? There is little indication of any serious preparation by the state, and there has been a spate of other departments pulling out of commitments to provide support to Cleveland. One might think that no politician is that crazy, but Kasich is a mean, vindictive son of a bitch even by GOP standards, so it might not be impossible.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:02:46am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

Kaine is way too boring but if he’s chosen, I guess that wouldn’t be a bad thing. I thought Perez was in the running along with Castro.

re: #398 lawhawk

So every time the cops pull over a Black suspect, according to Rightwing logic, it’s okay for the cops to kill that suspect regardless of the circumstances? Keep in mind that this man was in a car with his girlfriend and his 4 year old child. In no way was he a threat to that cop. I doubt a criminal would tell the cop that he had a gun if he meant to engage in violence.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:03:56am

re: #393 Barefoot Grin

Hahahaha. I’ll keep that in mind. Snort. These Fucking People. It’s so sad honestly. They all work hard, most of them have some adorable kids, but lordy the DerpHurrDurrrrrr that comes out of their mouths.

It’s like the young lady I corrected the other day. She’s a talented artist, but she had to leave art school because she can no longer afford it. So she tends bar at an upscale restaurant. I’ve known her since she was a baby, even babysat for her when she was little. She posted this whole long thing about FEMA camps and gun grabs and a bunch of other nonsense left behind in an ICE agent’s suicide note. It literally took me two minutes to debunk it. And she still, even after it was pointed out that the source was a neo nazi racist named Hal Turner, said, well, what’s in there is provable so even if it’s a lie, it’s the truth. And when I asked for proof, she sent me to Info Wars. And her other friends piled on me and told me I lived in a fantasy world. Yeah, um, No. Just NO. I had to leave that conversation and I adjusted Facebook to unfollow every wingnut I know now. My newsfeed is so much nicer. I am out of patience. Prove your shit or move the fuck over.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:04:04am

re: #412 Patricia Kayden

Kaine is way too boring but if he’s chosen, I guess that wouldn’t be a bad thing. I thought Perez was in the running along with Castro.

So every time the cops pull over a Black suspect, according to Rightwing logic, it’s okay for the cops to kill that suspect regardless of the circumstances? Keep in mind that this man was in a car his girlfriend and his 4 year old child. In no way was he a threat to that cop. I doubt a criminal would tell the cop that he had a gun if he meant to engage in violence.

Both are. Anyhow, I can vouch positively for Kaine. I think my first choice is Castro though. I also like Cory Booker but I feel conflicted on that since I’d hate to see Christie appoint a replacement.

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BeachDem  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:04:36am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

I said it last night even if the armed robbery is true. It does NOT justify killing him. We take in murderers all the time without a scratch on them. CCJ will do anything ot justify violence against black people. He’s sick.

See, I don’t even like going down that road of “even if it’s true.” That just adds fuel to the rightwing fever fire.

Extraordinary (read: batshit idiotic) claims require extraordinary evidence, and Rage Furby and his Klan have provided none, so the default supposition should be NOT TRUE. Ymmv.

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:04:46am

RE: the Trump/Pence ticket

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:04:58am

re: #409 Targetpractice

“Well, I hate that they think I’m a sin against their angry deity and that if I pray to him that I’ll be cured of what I am, but I do like that their tax proposal.”

“Yes they hate us, but they really love Freedom”

/

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:06:11am

re: #413 A Mom Anon

Hahahaha. I’ll keep that in mind. Snort. These Fucking People. It’s so sad honestly. They all work hard, most of them have some adorable kids, but lordy the DerpHurrDurrrrrr that comes out of their mouths.

It’s like the young lady I corrected the other day. She’s a talented artist, but she had to leave art school because she can no longer afford it. So she tends bar at an upscale restaurant. I’ve known her since she was a baby, even babysat for her when she was little. She posted this whole long thing about FEMA camps and gun grabs and a bunch of other nonsense left behind in an ICE agent’s suicide note. It literally took me two minutes to debunk it. And she still, even after it was pointed out that the source was a neo nazi racist named Hal Turner, said, well, what’s in there is provable so even if it’s a lie, it’s the truth. And when I asked for proof, she sent me to Info Wars. And her other friends piled on me and told me I lived in a fantasy world. Yeah, um, No. Just NO. I had to leave that conversation and I adjusted Facebook to unfollow every wingnut I know now. My newsfeed is so much nicer. I am out of patience. Prove your shit or move the fuck over.

I told you yesterday but I’ve been feeling like shit since my very best friend has decided after 29 years of not being politically minded at all that he’s a wingnut. He’s done prett well for himself despite little post secondary education and I honestly love him like a brother but he’s posted so much hateful and dishonest shit. Memes man, they dumb down everything and he thinks he’s being clever because he’s found memes posted by right wing jackasses like Crowder, Shapiro, and others.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:06:40am

re: #415 BeachDem

See, I don’t even like going down that road of “even if it’s true.” That just adds fuel to the rightwing fever fire.

Extraordinary (read: batshit idiotic) claims require extraordinary evidence, and Rage Furby and his Klan have provided none, so the default supposition should be NOT TRUE. Ymmv.

That’s very true. It’s crap in any case. Fuck Rage Furby..

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:06:54am

re: #389 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I was going to wait till tomorrow to publish this, but what the hell it’s almost 1 am here, so it is tomorrow.

More analysis at gotnwes.com

Glad I could lend a hand!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:07:15am

re: #395 Bubblehead II

Can’t seem to find it on her You Tube page. Maybe someone with some better Google-Fu will post it.

Comment 355

It’s from the DCCC

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Great White Snark  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:08:07am

There is no truth to the rumor that this is video footage of Lewandowski getting fired and then hired at CNN.

Human Slingshot - BASE Catapult | 0-200kph in 1 second

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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:10:49am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

This is what happens when you remove Civics classes from schools and don’t teach critical thinking. I might be in the last generation who had that in school, I graduated in 1978. I have younger siblings and they didn’t get those things in school, so I’m guessing the cuts started in around 1980 or so.

This is where Facebook has really done some damage IMO. It’s allowed for a lot of outright lies and destructive bullshit to be passed on as true and people simply, can’t, won’t or don’t know how to find out if shit is true or not.

My Dad always told me to just keep asking “and then what?” until you get to the bottom of things. How hard is that?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:11:20am

re: #422 Great White Snark

There is no truth to the rumor that this is video footage of Lewandowski getting fired and then hired at CNN.

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Video

crazy

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:12:49am

Graphic

Bodycam footage


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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:13:43am

re: #423 A Mom Anon

Socratic dialog is a wonderful thing.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:14:11am

re: #416 Lidane

RE: the Trump/Pence ticket

Remember that week when Cruz announced Carly Fiorina as his running mate, and they were a ticket for like three days before he quit?

Man, that was grate…..

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Bubblehead II  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:14:22am

re: #421 Stanley Sea

Comment 355

It’s from the DCCC

Thanks. Should tweet that to my congress critters and ask them why they endorsed tRump.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:14:57am

re: #425 FormerDirtDart

Graphic

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Amazing how the white guy managed to get several warnings before the cops shot him for acting like he was about to pull a weapon.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:15:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:15:32am

re: #423 A Mom Anon

This is what happens when you remove Civics classes from schools and don’t teach critical thinking. I might be in the last generation who had that in school, I graduated in 1978. I have younger siblings and they didn’t get those things in school, so I’m guessing the cuts started in around 1980 or so.

This is where Facebook has really done some damage IMO. It’s allowed for a lot of outright lies and destructive bullshit to be passed on as true and people simply, can’t, won’t or don’t know how to find out if shit is true or not.

My Dad always told me to just keep asking “and then what?” until you get to the bottom of things. How hard is that?

If it wasn’t Facebook, it would have been any otehr social media outlet IMO. Facebook has its uses but I’ll be damned if there’s too many of these political pages that exist simply for re-enforcement of biases rather than discussion. My favorite teachers and professors always challenged my thoughts. My parents especially my Dad did too. I can handle disagreement but he’s lost me big time when he tells me he’s anti big government and for individual rights but embraces crap like what North Carolina has done with transgendered people and the bathroom. He doesn’t see the contradiction. It’s sad honestly. As I said, he’s like a brother to me. It’s been killing me the past month.

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:18:22am
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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:18:37am

re: #426 Romantic Heretic

Yep. My dad is a wingnut, so is my mom. But the one thing they really did right with me, the first kid, was make sure I valued my education and took it seriously. I didn’t have a lot of kid books, most of the stuff I read was beyond my grade level. And it was drilled into my head never to just believe something, ever. Ask questions, even if it means it pisses people off (including them). So that “and then what?” or just “and?” helped stimulate intellectual curiosity.

It’s hard to find people who do that anymore. And they act like you have germs when you do it to them.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:19:11am

Sweet merciful jeebus:

Alaska is just too far away to attend the RNC in support of Trump.

That’s…. a new one.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:19:45am

re: #434 lawhawk

Sweet merciful jeebus:

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Alaska is just too far away to attend the RNC in support of Trump.

That’s…. a new one.

How often is she actually even in Alaska these days anyhow?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:19:59am

re: #425 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, I’m sure furby is researching that kid’s background.

It’s in his back yard.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:20:27am

re: #429 Targetpractice

Amazing how the white guy managed to get several warnings before the cops shot him for acting like he was about to pull a weapon.

I find it a little concerning the officer driving had his gun drawn, pointing over the steering wheel, through the windshield, before the vehicle even pulled over.
Now, I get that the truck driver did not appear to be responding to the siren behind him.
It just seems the officer was predisposed to the use of lethal force

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:21:37am

re: #433 A Mom Anon

Yep. My dad is a wingnut, so is my mom. But the one thing they really did right with me, the first kid, was make sure I valued my education and took it seriously. I didn’t have a lot of kid books, most of the stuff I read was beyond my grade level. And it was drilled into my head never to just believe something, ever. Ask questions, even if it means it pisses people off (including them). So that “and then what?” or just “and?” helped stimulate intellectual curiosity.

It’s hard to find people who do that anymore. And they act like you have germs when you do it to them.

What my Dad and his Dad did when he was a kid was to always try to get me and him to understand both sides of an issue. I mean I am strong minded in my views but I do try to understand the conservative point of view and it’s because I’ve understood that I find so much wrong with the conservative world view as it presently stands. I do NOT know how you can present your world view as anti big government and for individual rights when you want the government to not only enable the Kim Davises of the world but give them special protection.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:21:56am

re: #434 lawhawk

Sweet merciful jeebus:

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Alaska is just too far away to attend the RNC in support of Trump.

That’s…. a new one.

Ten bucks says they’re lying.

And maybe $10,000 says guarantees Palin won’t refute it. :)

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:22:21am

re: #434 lawhawk

Sweet merciful jeebus:

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Alaska is just too far away to attend the RNC in support of Trump.

That’s…. a new one.

It’s a pain in the ass to travel with a hangover, especially if you’re crossing time zones.

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:22:36am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:23:54am

re: #434 lawhawk

Sweet merciful jeebus:

Alaska is just too far away to attend the RNC in support of Trump.

That’s…. a new one.

I thought Sarah moved to Arizona a few years ago? Or maybe she has homes in both places.

Or maybe Sarah was too unhinged even for Trump.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:24:02am

re: #437 FormerDirtDart

I find it a little concerning the officer driving had his gun drawn, pointing over the steering wheel, through the windshield, before the vehicle even pulled over.
Now, I get that the truck driver did not appear to be responding to the siren behind him.
It just seems the officer was predisposed to the use of lethal force

I was looking at this more through the mindset of the treatment of Tamir Rice, who was shot while the police car was still in motion and the officer hadn’t even finished issuing his one and only warning. By contrast, even though the officer appeared predisposed to lethal force, he gave Noble ample opportunity to walk away alive.

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Danack  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:24:45am

Via daringfireball.com:

AN OPEN LETTER FROM TECHNOLOGY SECTOR LEADERS ON DONALD TRUMP’S CANDIDACY FOR PRESIDENT
Huge list of signatories:

We believe in an inclusive country that fosters opportunity, creativity and a level playing field. Donald Trump does not. He campaigns on anger, bigotry, fear of new ideas and new people, and a fundamental belief that America is weak and in decline. We have listened to Donald Trump over the past year and we have concluded: Trump would be a disaster for innovation. His vision stands against the open exchange of ideas, free movement of people, and productive engagement with the outside world that is critical to our economy  —  and that provide the foundation for innovation and growth.

Meanwhile, Facebook board member Peter Thiel will be speaking at the Republican National Convention, supporting Trump.

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:24:49am
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ipsos  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:25:39am

Pence is the new Quayle?

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:26:00am

Cops pull out of working the Republican National Convention, accusations fly

The other departments, Cincinatti and Greensboro NC, specifically cite a lack of preparation in Cleveland as the reason for their withdrawal. Cleveland officials naturally deny it, but at least one guy on the spot says it’s so:

Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association President Steve Loomis has been sounding the alarm for months about the city’s lack of preparedness for the potential of pro and anti-Donald Trump protesters clashing, according to Fox News.
“The city of Cleveland has been absolutely irresponsible for preparation of this convention,” he said Friday.

Hard to tell how bad it really is, but with thousands of armed crazies coming to town, and the most violent convention since 1968 (if not worse) as a real possibility; these guys really need to get their ducks in a row.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:27:28am

re: #446 ipsos

Pence is the new Quayle?

Not sure who I’d compare him to. Quayle is inevitable because of the Indiana connection of course.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:28:07am

re: #413 A Mom Anon

Hahahaha. I’ll keep that in mind. Snort. These Fucking People. It’s so sad honestly. They all work hard, most of them have some adorable kids, but lordy the DerpHurrDurrrrrr that comes out of their mouths.

It’s like the young lady I corrected the other day. She’s a talented artist, but she had to leave art school because she can no longer afford it. So she tends bar at an upscale restaurant. I’ve known her since she was a baby, even babysat for her when she was little. She posted this whole long thing about FEMA camps and gun grabs and a bunch of other nonsense left behind in an ICE agent’s suicide note. It literally took me two minutes to debunk it. And she still, even after it was pointed out that the source was a neo nazi racist named Hal Turner, said, well, what’s in there is provable so even if it’s a lie, it’s the truth. And when I asked for proof, she sent me to Info Wars. And her other friends piled on me and told me I lived in a fantasy world. Yeah, um, No. Just NO. I had to leave that conversation and I adjusted Facebook to unfollow every wingnut I know now. My newsfeed is so much nicer. I am out of patience. Prove your shit or move the fuck over.

This is why there really is no arguing with some people, and it’s harder if you otherwise have decent relationships with them. You just never know when the crazy is going pop out.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:29:17am

re: #449 Barefoot Grin

This is why there really is no arguing with some people, and it’s harder if you otherwise have decent relationships with them. You just never know when the crazy is going pop out.

Facebook is even more difficult with that since you have to deal with their dipshit friends. I keep my Facebook as apolitical as possible.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:30:41am

re: #440 Lidane

It’s a pain in the ass to travel with a hangover, especially if you’re crossing time zones.

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Might need to post bail for her son?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:30:49am

Meanwhile on FB, some people surprise you in a good way so there’s that.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:30:52am

re: #443 Targetpractice

I was looking at this more through the mindset of the treatment of Tamir Rice, who was shot while the police car was still in motion and the officer hadn’t even finished issuing his one and only warning. By contrast, even though the officer appeared predisposed to lethal force, he gave Noble ample opportunity to walk away alive.

I try to view events separately, since they are in no way similar.
No matter how heinous find the officer’s actions in the shooting of Tamir Rice, they were responding to calls of a youth with a gun.
These officers saw a truck driving seemingly to a reckless degree, called in the plates and got one old ticket linked to it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:31:26am

the real danger of trump is not so much walls, deportations, and emboldened nazis

it’s that trump will sign everything ryan sends to his desk

goodbye social security, goodbye medicare, goodbye minimum wage

we will end up living the nightmare of a giant ayn rand experiment

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:32:26am

re: #454 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the real danger of trump is not so much walls, deportations, and emboldened nazis

it’s that trump will sign everything ryan sends to his desk

goodbye social security, goodbye medicare, goodbye minimum wage

we will end up living the nightmare of a giant ayn rand experiment

It’s both. I really worry about the status of my sister in law’s sister’s husband should Trump get elected and get his way on immigration.

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:32:35am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:32:55am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

Facebook is even more difficult with that since you have to deal with their dipshit friends. I keep my Facebook as apolitical as possible.

I was really proud of how apolitical my FB was, then a cousin started posting pro-Hillary stuff nonstop. Of course I support HRC, but I don’t need 10 posts an hour cluttering things. I only have two GOP friends; they are the “hold the nose and vote Trump” types, but I don’t engage over politics with anyone.

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Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:33:45am

re: #453 FormerDirtDart

I try to view events separately, since they are in no way similar.
No matter how heinous find the officer’s actions in the shooting of Tamir Rice, they were responding to calls of a youth with a gun.
These officers saw a truck driving seemingly to a reckless degree, called in the plates and got one old ticket linked to it.

I tend to view things as part of an overall narrative, in this case the national discussion over racial bias in policing. I do this in part because the wingnuts I regularly lock horns with are presently trying to present Noble’s case as “proof” that black people are prone to violence and strife, because white people have not gone apeshit over Noble’s death.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:34:53am

re: #442 Sir John Barron

Or maybe Sarah was too unhinged even for Trump.

I’d find it pretty funny, after the cavalcade of fuckups the Trump campaign has been so far, if they’d think for a moment that having Palin speak at the convention would be what would hurt the campaign.

Like I asked earlier - just how big of a pathetic joke has she become?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:35:28am

re: #457 Barefoot Grin

I was really proud of how apolitical my FB was, then a cousin started posting pro-Hillary stuff nonstop. Of course I support HRC, but I don’t need 10 posts an hour cluttering things. I only have two GOP friends; they are the “hold the nose and vote Trump” types, but I don’t engage over politics with anyone.

Yeah I get annoyed by people I agree with too. They make their fee d all politics, all the time. I mean it’s their Facebook so they’re free to do what they want but I choose to post music links, photos of my niece, etc.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:35:56am

re: #434 lawhawk

Sweet merciful jeebus:

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Alaska is just too far away to attend the RNC in support of Trump.

That’s…. a new one.

It was the private jet v. commercial debate.

She lost.

Hahahaha

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:36:07am

re: #459 makeitstop

I’d find it pretty funny, after the cavalcade of fuckups the Trump campaign has been so far, if they’d think for a moment that having Palin speak at the convention would be what would hurt the campaign.

Like I asked earlier - just how big of a pathetic joke has she become?

Has any failed former major party VP slipped so low? Maybe John Breckendridge who ended up being a CSA general.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:36:38am

re: #455 HappyWarrior

It’s both. I really worry about the status of my sister in law’s sister’s husband should Trump get elected and get his way on immigration.

You won’t even have to be an immigrant to get the backwash. You just have to “look like an illegal” or “look like a Muslim” and bam, you’re one for all intents and purposes and you need to get the fuck out of OUR country or else. Won’t matter if you’re 3rd generation, speak flawless and locally accented English, and eat more hamburgers and hot dogs than anyone, you’re not an American, you don’t look like an American, and you need to get the fuck back to where you along, you dirty invading cockroach.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:36:48am

re: #153 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:36:51am

re: #458 Targetpractice

I tend to view things as part of an overall narrative, in this case the national discussion over racial bias in policing. I do this in part because the wingnuts I regularly lock horns with are presently trying to present Noble’s case as “proof” that black people are prone to violence and strife, because white people have not gone apeshit over Noble’s death.

Which one was Noble?

I know, so many, can’t keep track.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:37:41am

I also like genealogical stuff so on another note I definitely know that my paternal grandfather’s maternal grandfather definitely served with my paternal grandmother’s paternal grandfather’s first cousin in the Civil War now. Same company and everything about 60 years or so before their descendants would have met.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:37:42am

re: #434 lawhawk

Sweet merciful jeebus:

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Alaska is just too far away to attend the RNC in support of Trump.

That’s…. a new one.

Another idea - official news about to break that the woman her son beat up is pregnant with another grandchild.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:38:23am

re: #462 HappyWarrior

Has any failed former major party VP slipped so low? Maybe John Breckendridge who ended up being a CSA general.

It’s not quite the same, but John Edwards has had quite a fall from grace.

Of course he’s mostly kept out of sight the past 5-6 years.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:38:28am

re: #463 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

You won’t even have to be an immigrant to get the backwash. You just have to “look like an illegal” or “look like a Muslim” and bam, you’re one for all intents and purposes and you need to get the fuck out of OUR country or else. Won’t matter if you’re 3rd generation, speak flawless and locally accented English, and eat more hamburgers and hot dogs than anyone, you’re not an American, you don’t look like an American, and you need to get the fuck back to where you along, you dirty invading cockroach.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:39:05am

re: #468 Sir John Barron

It’s not quite the same, but John Edwards has had quite a fall from grace.

Of course he’s mostly kept out of sight the past 5-6 years.

Very true. I’m glad that the Dems don’t take him seriously like many Republicans appear to take Palin. I had honestly forgotten about Edwards.

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Great White Snark  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:39:15am

Donald Trump Heads Into The Convention With Barely Any Campaign At All

Okay so where in the polls am I to think he would be if he had a “good” strong force up and running in all 50 states?

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:39:18am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:40:00am

re: #472 Kragar

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Don’t want to get their suits we,t.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:41:42am

re: #473 HappyWarrior

Don’t want to get their suits we,t.

If they want wetwork, they want the real deal. That’s how you prove how manly you are.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:43:35am

Damn people.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:45:51am

re: #464 gocart mozart

Klayman is acting on behalf of Jews?

Not me. Nope. You don’t get to make that nonsensical claim and file this monstrosity of legal derp by saying that you’re attacking the sitting President of the US and a protest group because it’s somehow offensive to Jews.

You know what’s offensive? That you ignore that justice demands action to stop law enforcement from extrajudicial killings. That’s murdering suspects and others these offices come into contact with in layman terms.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:49:48am

re: #455 HappyWarrior

It’s both. I really worry about the status of my sister in law’s sister’s husband should Trump get elected and get his way on immigration.

mass deportation would be a clusterfuck of unimaginable proportions. i dont think in the end it can be done, even partway

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:50:22am

re: #477 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

mass deportation would be a clusterfuck of unimaginable proportions. i dont think in the end it can be done, even partway

I do think you’re right. I don’t want to find out in any case.

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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:50:36am
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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:51:55am

re: #476 lawhawk

Read the last paragraph: he’s asking for 1.5 trillion but since it is to be divided up on behalf of all white people, not just Jews, it will only amount to a few bucks per person so don’t sweat it.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:53:14am

re: #477 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

mass deportation would be a clusterfuck of unimaginable proportions. i dont think in the end it can be done, even partway

re: #478 HappyWarrior

I do think you’re right. I don’t want to find out in any case.

The constant spectre of it would have enough of a chilling effect, and they wouldn’t necessarily need to go full bore if they can get enough state level bullshit to make life hell for anyone sufficiently American-looking enough.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:54:34am
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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:54:58am

re: #457 Barefoot Grin

I was very upbeat and put up cool stuff I found and so on. But lordy, these people were just relentless with their bullshit. I still don’t put anything overtly political on my page, but I made a choice this week to not even bother with these people anymore. They never call me to chat or see how I’m doing, rarely invite us out to do things, so really, the “friendship” is superficial at best. I unfollowed all of them Tuesday night and don’t regret it at all. I’m done with one sided relationships. I’ve sent gifts and cards to people on birthdays, baby showers, holidays, never so much as a thank you or an acknowledgement they recieved it. I’ve had them to our home for pool parties, no reciprocation with dinner invites or what have you. Sick of it, they only call when they want The Husband to fix something at their house. And expect him to do it for free. No More. I’ll let my doggie be my best friend and live with that choice.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:55:30am

re: #482 lawhawk

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Brilliant.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:56:01am

re: #482 lawhawk

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heh

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:56:42am

Shitstorm in Lubbock
Breitbart’s version:
Texas Tech Black Student Group: Blue and White Lives DON’T Matter

Students from the Texas Tech University Black Students Association (@TTUBSA) reportedly tweeted a hate-filled message on the day before five Dallas-area police officers were ambushed by a lone gunman. The tweet was quickly taken down following strong community reactions.

Freepers, of course, have picked up the story, complete with calls for lynching.

Black Students Association (via Tech Democrats):

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:57:21am

re: #326 lawhawk

GOP family values. Tennessee edition. This is the guy that the state legislature basically banned from the building except on official state business because he repeatedly engaged in misconduct:

He’s also alleged to have had an affair with another legislator (a fellow GOPer) who later resigned.

all driven by passion for his country

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:57:24am

Dealing with whining about BLM protesters getting upset with the press. Yeah because the press never distorts what people say and do. I’m so sick of this shit. You’d be fucking angry too if the police repeatedly assumed you were up to no good simply because of your race and killed people. But nah go on deny that racial privilege is a thing if it makes oyu sleep better at night.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:58:26am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:59:26am

re: #489 Dr. Matt

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Ha!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:59:40am

re: #477 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

If we can deport 11+ million men, women, and children, we can confiscate guns in the hands of those where they don’t belong.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:01:13am

Hey Li’l Whiplash, didn’t they tell you at Harvard Law that SCOTUS appointments are for life, that you can’t just scream YOU’RE FIRED!!!! at all the Justices and replace them with your friends.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:01:37am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:01:41am

re: #491 GlutenFreeJesus

If we can deport 11+ million men, women, and children, we can confiscate guns in the hands of those where they don’t belong.

Though it gets complicated if some of those people have some of the guns.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:02:58am

re: #492 The Vicious Babushka

Hey Li’l Whiplash, didn’t they tell you at Harvard Law that SCOTUS appointments are for life, that you can’t just scream YOU’RE FIRED!!!! at all the Justices and replace them with your friends.

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He’s such a whiny little brat. I hope his parents are proud of him because I sure as hell wouldn’t be.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:03:00am

“Boring” “Nothingburger”: Conservatives Pan Pence As Trump’s Running Mate

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:03:35am

re: #493 jaunte

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Not surprised.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:03:56am

“Bring them in, but no assistance.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:04:33am

re: #496 Dr. Matt

“Boring” “Nothingburger”: Conservatives Pan Pence As Trump’s Running Mate

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Pence isn’t right wing enough for them? Really?

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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:05:24am

re: #496 Dr. Matt

Trump’s FIRST mistake? Ahahahahahahahaha! Oh my, that’s funny. Also, Ann Who? Didn’t she stop being relevant, wait, was she ever?

501
jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:05:30am

re: #499 HappyWarrior

It seems like extremism is an addiction that can’t be sated.

502
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:06:11am

re: #500 A Mom Anon

Trump’s FIRST mistake? Ahahahahahahahaha! Oh my, that’s funny. Also, Ann Who? Didn’t she stop being relevant, wait, was she ever?

She unfortunately was relevant since the right wingers in the media were happy to give her credibility even though she has offered nothing constructive to any discussion ever.

503
Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:06:20am

re: #499 HappyWarrior

Pence isn’t right wing enough for them? Really?

They want a Gohmert!/Palin/Coulter/Limbaugh hybrid, i.e., a batshit crazy, flame-throwing, loony bird wingnut.

504
retired cynic  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:06:28am

re: #385 A Mom Anon

My new go to line now is “prove it”. Not with some stupid crap you saw on the internet, but real proof. I’ll try not to age too much while I wait….

I pissed off one of The Husband’s idiot friends one afternoon right about this time last summer. He was helping replace our AC system that had crashed and was going on and on about ISIS having training camps in GA. This is a guy who comes from a family of cops (he mysteriously did not become one, not sure why) and who not only has an arsenal of weapons, he also can build them. He said he knew the location and everything (turns out that location is a freaking Boy Scout campground). So I said, “OK dude, I’ll go get my camo stuff and let’s go get in your truck and GET THEM!! Come on, we’d never get in trouble, hell, we’d probably get a medal from the Governor or something!” My husband shot me “the look”, lol. And his buddy, called me a smart ass and blew it off. But I mean, come ON, if you’re going to go there, then lets’ go there. Prove your shit or STFU and let the grown ups talk.

I know someone with a ‘friend’ in Texas who says the same thing. Says he knows where they are, has taken photos from an overlook, and so on. I told my friend, prove it, also. Never had an answer.

505
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:06:57am

re: #501 jaunte

It seems like extremism is an addiction that can’t be sated.

I have no doubt that if you gave them Reagan circa 1976 delivered from a time machine they wouldn’t be happy. Nothing’s “conservative” enough for these fascist wankers.

506
BlueSpotinAL  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:07:44am

Here is why many evangelicals will vote for a Trump/Pence ticket:

507
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:07:47am

re: #503 Dr. Matt

They want a Gohmert!/Palin/Coulter/Limbaugh hybrid, i.e., a batshit crazy, flame-throwing, loony bird wingnut.

Which is pretty much what Pence’s record is except those rare times he’s gone off the conservation ledge.

508
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:08:14am

re: #506 BlueSpotinAL

Here is why many evangelicals will vote for a Trump/Pence ticket:

Embedded Image

You’re right. Pence is going to get a lot of Evangelicals who didn’t trust Trump before on board with him.

509
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:09:52am

This article is chilling. Just imagine this monster as POTUS, it is far worse than any of Hillary Clinton’s fictitious “crimes”

510
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:11:03am

re: #509 The Vicious Babushka

This article is chilling. Just imagine this monster as POTUS, it is far worse than any of Hillary Clinton’s fictitious “crimes”

[Embedded content]

“Anybody who attacks him, it’s like buyer beware,” said Louise Sunshine, who has known Trump since the 1970s and worked closely with him as he set about reshaping Manhattan’s skyline. “Donald is very thin-skinned,” she said. “He takes everything personally.Everything.”
What a terrific quality for a world leader.

511
Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:11:34am

Pence brings nothing to the Trump campaign. More proof that Trump doesn’t want this job. He’s con. And yet the right-wing idiots still worship everything Trump says and does.

512
BeenHereAwhile  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:12:23am

re: #463 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

You won’t even have to be an immigrant to get the backwash. You just have to “look like an illegal” or “look like a Muslim” and bam, you’re one for all intents and purposes and you need to get the fuck out of OUR country or else. Won’t matter if you’re 3rd generation, speak flawless and locally accented English, and eat more hamburgers and hot dogs than anyone, you’re not an American, you don’t look like an American, and you need to get the fuck back to where you along, you dirty invading cockroach.

Sephardic jew, maronite or coptic christian.

513
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:12:55am

Is it possible that Trump will announce a VP tomorrow and then do YOU’RE FIRED at the Convention and choose another VP, and then maybe do YOU’RE FIRED again before the election?

514
Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:13:11am

Pence does not feel like a choice that Trump made, but more like a choice made for Trump. Like a condition of any agreement Trump made for the party’s support as their nominee. “We’ll give you money and backing, but you’ve gotta accept whoever we pick to be your VP.”

515
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:13:32am

re: #513 The Vicious Babushka

Is it possible that Trump will announce a VP tomorrow and then do YOU’RE FIRED at the Convention and choose another VP, and then maybe do YOU’RE FIRED again before the election?

If anyone would replace his VP pick, it would be Trump.

516
Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:13:45am

re: #332 Belafon

If you can’t handle blacks having the same gun rights as you, then you don’t care about gun rights, only white rights.

Negroes were never supposed to have the same rights as white people. See the Dred Scott SC decision for details.

517
lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:13:45am

Demon sheep can’t be reached for comment.

518
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:14:02am

re: #514 Targetpractice

Pence does not feel like a choice that Trump made, but more like a choice made for Trump. Like a condition of any agreement Trump made for the party’s support as their nominee. “We’ll give you money and backing, but you’ve gotta accept whoever we pick to be your VP.”

That’s what it reads to me too.

519
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:15:03am

re: #517 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Demon sheep can’t be reached for comment.

I hate that Hillary is presidential. //

520
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:16:33am

I know we’d lose him in the Senate but what about Sherrod Brown for Clinton’s VP?

521
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:17:14am

Butthurt Berniebros, who are now JillPills, make the idiotic claim that Hillary is a “warmonger.”

522
Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:17:36am

re: #454 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the real danger of trump is not so much walls, deportations, and emboldened nazis

it’s that trump will sign everything ryan sends to his desk

goodbye social security, goodbye medicare, goodbye minimum wage

we will end up living the nightmare of a giant ayn rand experiment

Which will fail as Objectivism is to political science what phlogiston is to chemistry.

523
Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:17:48am

re: #517 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Demon sheep can’t be reached for comment.

That really is a perfect sign of how fucked our pundit class is, that they’re trying to argue that a candidate hitting all the notes actually looks bad compared to a guy who can’t even figure out which end of the trumpet he’s supposed to blow in.

524
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:18:00am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

Butthurt Berniebros, who are now JillPills, make the idiotic claim that Hillary is a “warmonger.”

[Embedded content]

Fuck her.

525
Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:18:20am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

Butthurt Berniebros, who are now JillPills, make the idiotic claim that Hillary is a “warmonger.”

[Embedded content]

Jill who?

526
Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:18:38am

re: #512 BeenHereAwhile

Sephardic jew, maronite or coptic christian.

There was a thing about Coptic Christians in the US getting mistaken for Muslims and attacked a few years ago, wasn’t there?

527
jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:19:50am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

Butthurt Berniebros, who are now JillPills, make the idiotic claim that Hillary is a “warmonger.”

[Embedded content]

Has Stein even been elected to a city council position, or is she still at the homeowner’s association level?

528
Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:20:12am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

Butthurt Berniebros, who are now JillPills, make the idiotic claim that Hillary is a “warmonger.”

She’s practically Hitler and Imperial Japan and Mussolini rolled into one. So let’s vote for Jill so that that wild, erratic Trump can be elected, and he’ll surely make wise decisions about the use of American military force around the globe, particularly in the event of another 9/11.

//

529
Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:20:32am

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the bar is set so low for Trump will be judged as having “won” the first debate for not taking a dump on the stage.

530
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:20:52am

A vote Stein is basically admitting that I don’t care about the structure of the Supreme Court because I got my purity ring.

531
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:20:53am

STUPIDEST WINGNUT PHOTOSHOP OF THE DAY==>

The original photo is from here

532
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:21:17am

re: #529 Targetpractice

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the bar is set so low for Trump will be judged as having “won” the first debate for not taking a dump on the stage.

“Sure, Trump called her a bitch but you know what he didn’t do.”

533
EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:21:54am

re: #399 Targetpractice

I’m curious what sort of mental editing the Log Cabin Republicans will need to overlook that Trump has put one of the more anti-gay Republican governors on his ticket.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

534
Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:22:34am

re: #514 Targetpractice

Pence does not feel like a choice that Trump made, but more like a choice made for Trump. Like a condition of any agreement Trump made for the party’s support as their nominee. “We’ll give you money and backing, but you’ve gotta accept whoever we pick to be your VP.”

This is a very good point.

Trump may also feel that Christie and Newt are a bit too colorful.

535
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:22:57am

Debunked last year by Snopes.

536
A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:22:59am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, I’m sure Shillary is drawing up plans in her secret volcano lair with Dr. Evil to bomb the shit out of Texas or something. These people. And when their stupid shit doesn’t come true no one ever calls them on it.

It’s like those apocalyptic Second Coming preachers who know the exact date of the end of the world and then when it doesn’t happen, not only do they not lose followers, no one calls them on their crap when they set a new date for The Rapture.

537
Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:23:07am

re: #416 Lidane

RE: the Trump/Pence ticket

[Embedded content]

So Trump is going with a James Bond villain.

Good job, Trump kids.

538
Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:23:21am

You can vote for Jill Stein or you can slam your dick in a desk drawer. Both will cause you the same level of pain and have about as much bearing on the future of this nation.

539
Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:23:37am

re: #531 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST WINGNUT PHOTOSHOP OF THE DAY==>

The original photo is from here

Let me guess—is this the Deray “selfie” with Obama that gave James Woods the heebeejeebees yesterday?

Can’t see Twitter image from work.

540
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:24:04am

re: #531 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST WINGNUT PHOTOSHOP OF THE DAY==>

[Embedded content]

The original photo is from here

So whose ass does Hannity have his head up more, Newt’s or Donald’s?

541
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:24:36am

re: #539 Sir John Barron

Let me guess—is this the Deray “selfie” with Obama that gave James Woods the heebeejeebees yesterday?

Can’t see Twitter image from work.

Nope, “Obama” in Black Pamther regala posing with a gun.

542
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:24:38am

re: #540 HappyWarrior

So whose ass does Hannity have his head up more, Newt’s or Donald’s?

Donald’s.

543
Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:25:00am

re: #527 jaunte

Has Stein even been elected to a city council position, or is she still at the homeowner’s association level?

City councils and HOA’s are too corrupt I’m sure for Jill’s purity.

544
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:25:21am

re: #537 Skip Intro

So Trump is going with a James Bond villain.

Good job, Trump kids.

Embedded Image

Tannen-Grant!

545
Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:25:44am

re: #514 Targetpractice

Pence does not feel like a choice that Trump made, but more like a choice made for Trump. Like a condition of any agreement Trump made for the party’s support as their nominee. “We’ll give you money and backing, but you’ve gotta accept whoever we pick to be your VP.”

Exactly… If/when Trump gets into trouble with an impeachable offense, Pubes will have their establishment Conservative in place.

546
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:27:19am

re: #545 Dave In Austin

Exactly… If/when Trump gets into trouble with an impeachable offense, gets bored with the responsibilities of office and quits Pubes will have their establishment Conservative in place.

More likely.

547
MsJ  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:28:27am

re: #163 lawhawk

548
Targetpractice  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:28:53am

Vote Stein for Prez: Thousands of pretentious assholes can’t be wrong!

549
Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:29:04am

From Harper’s, April 16th, 1904:

but Papa says it wont hurt us, it’s absolutely safe, and an accidental discharge is impossible.

FACT: U.S. President William McKinley and Presidential Candidate Robert F. Kennedy were killed by assassins using Iver Johnson Revolvers

I have no idea what they mean by “impossible.” This is a hammerless double action revolver, if you pull the trigger and there are bullets in it, it will fire.

550
lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:30:20am

The VP slot is no gimme or giveaway. This is the person who could be president, and they deserve all manner of scrutiny. Pence is the prototypical GOP extremist, but has exhibited a few instances where pragmatism, which means the media/GOP will play up those bits to the exclusion of all else to show his bonafides.

His stance on public health and women’s issues should be a warning to anyone, and his actions have undermined the Indiana economy. That’s what he’d bring to the ticket - misogyny and economic illiteracy masquerading as religious freedom.

551
jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:30:51am

re: #549 Shiplord Kirel

The little one on the right has already been shot.

552
lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:31:27am

re: #547 MsJ

Well, I’m glad you find his grabastic melange of bullshit to your liking, but not in my feed. And he brought his friends too (who have also been blocked).

553
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:31:31am

re: #551 jaunte

The little one on the right has already been shot.

Well, I’m pretty sure she is dead now.

554
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:32:56am

re: #550 lawhawk

The VP slot is no gimme or giveaway. This is the person who could be president, and they deserve all manner of scrutiny. Pence is the prototypical GOP extremist, but has exhibited a few instances where pragmatism, which means the media/GOP will play up those bits to the exclusion of all else to show his bonafides.

His stance on public health and women’s issues should be a warning to anyone, and his actions have undermined the Indiana economy. That’s what he’d bring to the ticket - misogyny and economic illiteracy masquerading as religious freedom.

His views about gay people show that the GOP has no desire to view gay people as citizens deserving of rights.

555
makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:33:08am

re: #514 Targetpractice

Pence does not feel like a choice that Trump made, but more like a choice made for Trump. Like a condition of any agreement Trump made for the party’s support as their nominee. “We’ll give you money and backing, but you’ve gotta accept whoever we pick to be your VP.”

Josh Marshall makes the point that Trump has seemed totally uninterested in any aspect of the campaign, outside of campaign rallies and the resultant adulation he gets from them.

He was completely uninvolved with the party platform, leaving that in the hands of the repulsive Kris Kobach. I’ll assume he’s had nothing to do with the VP pick.

556
HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:33:47am

re: #555 makeitstop

Josh Marshall makes the point that Trump has seemed totally uninterested in any aspect of the campaign, outside of campaign rallies and the resultant adulation he gets from them.

He was completely uninvolved with the party platform, leaving that in the hands of the repulsive Kris Kobach. I’ll assume he’s had nothing to do with the VP pick.

Sounds right to me.

557
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:34:35am

re: #555 makeitstop

Josh Marshall makes the point that Trump has seemed totally uninterested in any aspect of the campaign, outside of campaign rallies and the resultant adulation he gets from them.

He was completely uninvolved with the party platform, leaving that in the hands of the repulsive Kris Kobach. I’ll assume he’s had nothing to do with the VP pick.

As I said already, he probably thinks he can FIRE! that VP and choose whoever he wants, again and again.

558
ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:36:02am

re: #447 Shiplord Kirel

Cops pull out of working the Republican National Convention, accusations fly

The other departments, Cincinatti and Greensboro NC, specifically cite a lack of preparation in Cleveland as the reason for their withdrawal. Cleveland officials naturally deny it, but at least one guy on the spot says it’s so:

Hard to tell how bad it really is, but with thousands of armed crazies coming to town, and the most violent convention since 1968 (if not worse) as a real possibility; these guys really need to get their ducks in a row.

I heard the GOP money for the whole convention has been rather short. Like millions short. Cleveland may be taking the cheap route because they are a not a rich enough city to put this kind of show on costs be damned.

Of course that could all blow up and cause some big problems for the city. It really does appear this whole thing ran off the rails once Trump started to the candidate no one wanted. Donations and advertising has not been what they expected.

559
BeenHereAwhile  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:36:07am

re: #526 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

There was a thing about Coptic Christians in the US getting mistaken for Muslims and attacked a few years ago, wasn’t there?

Just had some clients (thought by some associates to be Muslim).

Turned out to be Sephardic jews.

560
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:36:15am

re: #474 Kryptik: Just Done With It.

If they want wetwork, they want the real deal. That’s how you prove how manly you are.

They couldn’t pay Victoria (Helen Mirren) enough.

561
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:38:10am

re: #456 Kragar

That’s reminiscent of when GM bought EDS back in the 1980s, right around the time the AIDS crises was in full bloom-the joke was: “Q: Why did California get AIDS and Detroit got EDS? A: California had first pick.”

562
Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:38:24am

re: #546 Blind Frog Belly White

That too

563
gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:38:28am

re: #531 The Vicious Babushka

564
A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:39:50am

re: #555 makeitstop

Donald doesn’t strike me as someone who “works” at all. That’s for his minions, “the little people”. He’s like Molly Ivins used to describe W: Born on 3rd base and thought he hit a triple. That’s why he has no ground game, spent no money on ads and the like. Sure the media has clung to him like a bad stench, but even if they hadn’t I doubt he’d do any more than he’s done now. He doesn’t know how to run a business, he just knows how to sign papers and yell orders at people. He goes to parties and on vacations and has people wait on him. He does not know the first thing about hard work. Nor does he understand the basic infrastructure and attention to detail that it takes to accomplish anything. He would have dropped out of this race months ago if Our Stupid Media hadn’t paid attention to him. He’s what you end up with when you never tell a toddler no, only with money.

565
lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:39:58am

re: #560 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s important to enjoy life while you still can:

Red 2 TRAILER 1 (2013) - Bruce Willis, Helen Mirren Movie HD

566
Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:40:47am

re: #549 Shiplord Kirel

Looks like she’s already killed her doll.

567
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:41:42am

re: #561 Eric The Fruit Bat

That’s reminiscent of when GM bought EDS back in the 1980s, right around the time the AIDS crises was in full bloom-the joke was: “Q: Why did California get AIDS and Detroit got EDS? A: California had first pick.”

I worked for EDS back when GM bought them. The entire GM IT department was transferred to EDS, losing all their seniority and benefits. They were so pissed there was talk about joining the UAW.

If that happened, IT jobs would have been moved overseas much sooner than the ‘00’s.

568
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:42:01am

re: #565 lawhawk

It’s important to enjoy life while you still can:

[Embedded content]

I just loved her character in those movies.

569
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:44:08am

re: #565 lawhawk

Red2:
Sarah: “Where did you get the bodies?”
Victoria: “From my freezer, dear.”

570
Frankie Five Angels  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:44:33am

Rasmussen has Trump +7.

571
Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:45:36am

So Pence isn’t crazy enough for Coulter? Here he is standing next to the queen of crazy.

572
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:17:06pm

re: #549 Shiplord Kirel

From Harper’s, April 16th, 1904:

Embedded Image

I have no idea what they mean by “impossible.” This is a hammerless double action revolver, if you pull the trigger and there are bullets in it, it will fire.

Same argument as Glocks, that it won’t fire unless you pull the trigger.

573
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:19:40pm

re: #568 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just loved her character in those movies.

“I love the way your toes curl up, just before you pull the trigger!”

574
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 12:23:54pm

re: #573 Blind Frog Belly White

“I love the way your toes curl up, just before you pull the trigger!”

Frank Moses: Sarah, this is Victoria. Best wet work asset in the business and a true artist with an an RPN.

Sarah Ross: Oh, wow. Um, what’s that?

Victoria: [smiling] I kill people, dear.

575
Eventual Carrion  Jul 14, 2016 • 1:49:35pm

re: #447 Shiplord Kirel

Cops pull out of working the Republican National Convention, accusations fly

The other departments, Cincinatti and Greensboro NC, specifically cite a lack of preparation in Cleveland as the reason for their withdrawal. Cleveland officials naturally deny it, but at least one guy on the spot says it’s so:

Hard to tell how bad it really is, but with thousands of armed crazies coming to town, and the most violent convention since 1968 (if not worse) as a real possibility; these guys really need to get their ducks in a row.

Their Donald ducks?


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