NBC Reports at Least 60 Dead as Truck Drives Into Crowd in Nice, France

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Very bad news tonight from Nice in southern France: At least 60 Dead as Truck Plows Into Crowd in Southern France, Driver Killed.

A truck plowed into pedestrians during Bastille Day celebrations in the popular French seaside city of Nice, leaving at least 60 people dead, officials said.

Broadcaster i-Tele quoted the prosecutor’s office as saying the preliminary death toll was 60.

The president of the Nice region, Eric Ciotti, said on French radio 60 people were killed. Nice’s former mayor and a city official, Christian Estrosi said there appeared to be dozens of deaths. He later said there were 70 “victims.”

A spokesperson for France’s Interior Ministry said on Twitter: “The individual who was driving the truck was neutralized. Investigation will determine if he was acting alone.”

UPDATE at 7/14/16 5:00:14 pm by Charles Johnson

A statement from President Obama:

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Great White Snark  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:54:50pm

No guns. No explosion. Just a massive powerful improvised weapon. Cunning bastards. How do you prevent the use of such a common object?

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:55:41pm

re: #1 Great White Snark

No guns. No explosion. Just a massive powerful improvised weapon. Cunning bastards. How do you prevent the use of such a common object?

That was loaded with guns and grenades.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:56:07pm

DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:56:39pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:58:06pm

[This tweet has apparently been deleted.]

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:58:42pm

re: #1 Great White Snark

No guns. No explosion. Just a massive powerful improvised weapon. Cunning bastards. How do you prevent the use of such a common object?

There are now reports that he was firing a rifle out the window of the truck as well, and the truck was loaded with weapons and grenades.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 4:59:00pm

I’m re-posting this from the Dead Thread because I hate Fox “News‘“fucking guts SO MUCH.

And again I have to give a big FUCK YOU to Fox for immediately going to the least qualified person in the country to exploit this.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:00:22pm

re: #1 Great White Snark

No guns. No explosion. Just a massive powerful improvised weapon. Cunning bastards. How do you prevent the use of such a common object?

You can’t unless you have a police state. Guess what Trump is going to suggest.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:00:58pm

PM Hollande MUST resign after this. This is a COLOSSAL FAILURE! How the fuck should this fucking happen even in a “State of Emergency”?!

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:01:24pm

Freep mods have pulled a hoax story that the Eiffel Tower had been destroyed, so they apparently have some kind of limits. It had already drawn about 10 comments calling for the usual expulsions, roundups, and genocide.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:01:50pm

re: #9 electrotek

Did you forget the sarcasm tags?

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:02:02pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

You can’t unless you have a police state. Guess what Trump is going to suggest.

And right on schedule, courtesy of FR:

To: ObozoMustGo2012
I’m wondering if Pence will want to be VP if terrorism is going to spin out of control. Might be something to be said for staying in Indiana.

You make a good point. Assuming terrorism spins out of control AND the BLM-type protestors in the US become less controllable. A capable General as VP might be realistic.

As usual, I’ll trust Mr. Trump to make the best decision possible under the given circumstances.
37 posted on 7/14/2016, 4:44:26 PM by grania

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William of Orange  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:02:04pm

Here comes Mr. Pavlov again:

“Blame Obama!”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:02:22pm

re: #9 electrotek

He’s President.

Not really sure what could have been done to stop this honestly. The attack was committed with a normal shipping truck. You can’t do much about this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:02:30pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

There are now reports that he was firing a rifle out the window of the truck as well, and the truck was loaded with weapons and grenades.

If true, it doesn’t sound like this was what he was planning to do. Downstairs, someone suggested maybe the truck was an arms shipment - isn’t Nice a port city? - and the driver thought he was going to be stopped and improvised this horror.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:04:03pm

But no public statement from Hillary. Has she even said something but nobody id paying attention because they are too busy following the Orange Hairball

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:04:10pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

If he was smuggling guns, I doubt he’d have one in the cabin with him in case he was stopped.

But who knows. These assholes are insane.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:04:44pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

I think he had a Phase 1 and Phase 2.

He never got to Phase 2.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:04:56pm

re: #14 Ziggy_TARDIS

He’s President.

Not really sure what could have been done to stop this honestly. The attack was committed with a normal shipping truck. You can’t do much about this.

Oh right, my bad. Just got caught up in the heat of the moment.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:05:05pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:05:14pm

re: #16 The Vicious Babushka

But no public statement from Hillary. Has she even said something but nobody id paying attention because they are too busy following the Orange Hairball

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Would not surprise me if Trump calls for the deportation of all foreign muslims “until we figure this thing out.”

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:05:43pm

re: #11 GlutenFreeJesus

Did you forget the sarcasm tags?

Good point.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:06:28pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

If true, it doesn’t sound like this was what he was planning to do. Downstairs, someone suggested maybe the truck was an arms shipment - isn’t Nice a port city? - and the driver thought he was going to be stopped and improvised this horror.

I think that is the most logical scenario if the reports of a truckload of weapons hold up.

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:06:30pm

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

Shapiro is a 1st Class *sshat. No one’s twisting his arm and making him read, or listen to, anything the president says on any subject. The b*tch just wants to b*tch. If the president walked up to him and handed him $1,000,000, he’d still b*tch about it. That’s just who/what he is—-a lying, constantly biased complainer and whiner, and it’s a sad thing for me to witness in someone who is supposed to be a rational adult.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:06:47pm

re: #9 electrotek

PM Hollande MUST resign after this. This is a COLOSSAL FAILURE! How the fuck should this fucking happen even in a “State of Emergency”?!

This is asinine.

French officials should only resign/be forced out of office if it turns out that there was dereliction of duty on their part.

It is simply impossible to prevent terrorist attacks like this with 100.00000% certainty, and it’s important to avoid over-reacting to the attacks that succeed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:06:55pm

re: #21 Big Beautiful Door

Would not surprise me if Trump calls for the deportation of all foreign muslims “until we figure this thing out.”

He will include the “first generation” but he will kindly and compassionately allow the “second generation” to stay.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:07:42pm

re: #22 electrotek

I know it’s easy to get caught up in the moment.

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:07:57pm

re: #16 The Vicious Babushka

But no public statement from Hillary. Has she even said something but nobody id paying attention because they are too busy following the Orange Hairball

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Freepers are all over that too. Presumably not making a statement before the facts are in is a sign of support for terrorism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:08:06pm

re: #16 The Vicious Babushka

But no public statement from Hillary. Has she even said something but nobody id paying attention because they are too busy following the Orange Hairball

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Maybe she’s waiting for confirmation or details of what happened.
Unlike Donald who just spouts off nonsense the very second he hears of a tragic incident.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:08:39pm

re: #17 GlutenFreeJesus

If he was smuggling guns, I doubt he’d have one in the cabin with him in case he was stopped.

But who knows. These assholes are insane.

Yeah, but if he were planning to drive into a crowd, what’s the point of filling a truck with guns? For that purpose, other things that weigh more and cost less would be better.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:09:11pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

He will include the “first generation” but he will kindly and compassionately allow the “second generation” to stay.

I could totally imagine him arguing that all muslims who immigrated to the US are “enemy combatants” and therefore their American-born children aren’t US citizens and should be deported as well.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:09:13pm
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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:09:31pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

This is asinine.

French officials should only resign/be forced out of office if it turns out that there was dereliction of duty on their part.

It is simply impossible to prevent terrorist attacks like this with 100.00000% certainty, and it’s important to avoid over-reacting to the attacks that succeed.

You’re absolutely correct. I’m afraid this will cause a lot more hatred towards refugees, even though not a single terrorist attack in the country was caused by them, but by 2nd and 3rd generation French Muslims.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:09:54pm

We need a president who goes off half-cocked! Not somebody who waits till any facts are known!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:10:00pm

HURR HURR OBAMA DIDN’T SAY TEH MAGIC WORDS RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRISM!!!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:10:46pm

re: #34 Blind Frog Belly White

We need a president who goes off half-cocked! Not somebody who waits till any facts are known!

we need a president who is ready to exploit any tragedy to profile himself and grandstand!!!

/

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:10:51pm

re: #17 GlutenFreeJesus

If he was smuggling guns, I doubt he’d have one in the cabin with him in case he was stopped.

But who knows. These assholes are insane.

He would know he was screwed anyway if the cops stopped him, kind of like Blue Tarp after the Malheur siege. He might also have had the gun to fend off other criminals who might possibly try to hijack the shipment. A whole truckload of grenades and the like would be worth beaucoup euros on the regional market.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:11:04pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:11:07pm

re: #12 calochortus

This is the kind of idiocy we’re dealing with on a massive scale now.

As usual, I’ll trust Mr. Trump to make the best decision possible under the given circumstances.

Right, moron, because he’s had decades of experience dealing with this type of thing.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:11:11pm

This is awful. I’ve been to Nice many times on tour with various artists; it’s the site of many jazz festivals. And I recognize that beachside area - I’ve been in restaurants along that strand. Terrible to see this.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:11:11pm

re: #24 majii

Shapiro is a 1st Class *sshat. No one’s twisting his arm and making him read, or listen to, anything the president says on any subject. The b*tch just wants to b*tch. If the president walked up to him and handed him $1,000,000, he’d still b*tch about it. That’s just who/what he is—-a lying, constantly biased complainer and whiner, and it’s a sad thing for me to witness in someone who is supposed to be a rational adult.

I’d like to see Shapiro cross-examined on the subject of just how returning to a Crusader mentality is supposed to be helpful in any way whatsoever.

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:11:28pm

re: #28 calochortus

Of course Freepers are all over HRC not issuing a statement at this point. It will never enter their minds that some people like to investigate matters and do a bit of research before issuing statements. They like Trump’s approach——something happens, he takes to Twitter and runs to Fox to spew stupid nonsense based on what he “thinks” or feels in his “gut.” Never mind that the things he says makes them more stupid, but they like it, they really like it. They don’t deal well with measured, fact-based commentary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:12:19pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:13:18pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart

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Just speculating, but the Dump Trump movement? I heard Mike Lee has the votes to get the minority report to unbind the delegates on the first ballot to the convention floor.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:13:49pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

This is awful. I’ve been to Nice many times on tour with various artists; it’s the site of many jazz festivals. And I recognize that beachside area - I’ve been in restaurants along that strand. Terrible to see this.

A sign in a photo posted here indicated a jazz festival. The building-sized sign was in English.

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:13:58pm

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

Yes, because if this president says the word “radical Islam,” all terrorists would cease to exist. This is what we get from Mr. Sh*t For Brains.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:14:32pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

Agreed. Maybe he expected a standoff or something. 48 hour rule I guess. This sucks.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:14:51pm
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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:15:01pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart

This has to be a lie. Reince Priebus has said more than once that things are going well for the GOP in regard to Trump, party unity, the convention, and everything else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:15:16pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

Agreed. Maybe he expected a standoff or something. 48 hour rule I guess. This sucks.

Or, you know, maybe he liked guns?

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:15:45pm

re: #44 Big Beautiful Door

Just speculating, but the Dump Trump movement? I heard Mike Lee has the votes to get the minority report to unbind the delegates on the first ballot to the convention floor.

I’ve been following the GOP rule committee story over at RedState, and from that it looks like unbinding the delegates isn’t going to happen.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:15:54pm
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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:15:55pm

re: #49 majii

This has to be a lie. Reince Priebus has said more than once that things are going well for the GOP in regard to Trump, party unity, the convention, and everything else.

Hahahahahahahaha-gasp-hahahahahahaha..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:16:09pm

Joe Walsh is having a frothing at the mouth twitter meltdown right now.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:16:23pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

This is awful. I’ve been to Nice many times on tour with various artists; it’s the site of many jazz festivals. And I recognize that beachside area - I’ve been in restaurants along that strand. Terrible to see this.

I had the same feeling about the San Bernardino attack. I had been in that building before. I believe I had actually helped move the county stuff in the building when it was completed when I was doing summer work with Lion Van Lines.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:16:24pm

How is it that we manage to avoid something as catastrophic as this on our 4th of July celebrations yet the French intelligence can’t foil this?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:17:27pm

re: #49 majii

This has to be a lie. Reince Priebus has said more than once that things are going well for the GOP in regard to Trump, party unity, the convention, and everything else.

Trump would tell the RNC to quit sweating it and stiff their contractors just like he always does.

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gwangung  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:17:27pm

re: #31 Big Beautiful Door

I could totally imagine him arguing that all muslims who immigrated to the US are “enemy combatants” and therefore their American-born children aren’t US citizens and should be deported as well.

That was said about Japanese Americans in World War II.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:17:32pm
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Scottishdragon  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:17:46pm

re: #56 electrotek

How is it that we manage to avoid something as catastrophic as this on our 4th of July celebrations yet the French intelligence can’t foil this?

We sure as hell don’t manage to avoid all of them, do we?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:17:54pm

Remember “freedom fries” and “surrender monkeys” when they didn’t support our Iraq experiment? Suddenly now they care about the French. Yeah. Bullshit.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:18:19pm

re: #51 EPR-radar

I’ve been following the GOP rule committee story over at RedState, and from that it looks like unbinding the delegates isn’t going to happen.

Details? What have they reported?

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:18:27pm

re: #60 Aunty Entity Dragon

We sure as hell don’t manage to avoid all of them, do we?

True, but we somehow manage to avoid them on national holidays.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:18:54pm

re: #62 Big Beautiful Door

Details? What have they reported?

The rules committee is still debating it right now.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:19:14pm

re: #56 electrotek

re: #60 Aunty Entity Dragon

The same way we missed the Pulse Nightclub Attack. This does seem to be a lone wolf inspired by DAESH.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:19:28pm

re: #63 electrotek

True, but we somehow manage to avoid them on national holidays.

That is by accident. Our luck won’t last.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:19:34pm

re: #63 electrotek

Also, luck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:19:37pm
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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:20:04pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

The rules committee is still debating it right now.

After they had to meet behind closed doors for 4 hours because of a “printing error.” Must have been one heck of a typo.

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:20:58pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m now wondering whether that was the reason Walsh made the offensive tweets about Dallas a few days weeks ago. Maybe he was angling for an invite to the GOP convention. If so, he has reason to be pissed for not getting an invitation. I think Old Deadbeat Walsh wants another shot at a seat in Congress.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:21:01pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Funny. The President has wanted an AUMF for years but Republicans won’t do it.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:21:02pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart

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Wow! A bunch of GOP whores running to their Pimp…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:21:08pm

re: #56 electrotek

How is it that we manage to avoid something as catastrophic as this on our 4th of July celebrations yet the French intelligence can’t foil this?

There is a large, radicalized muslim community in Europe. In the US, muslims are well assimilated into society, and of course we are a lot farther away from Middle Eastern terrorism hotbeds.

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Great White Snark  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:21:15pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:21:28pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought Trump didn’t favor using our military for NATO countries’ advantage-or will he send France a bill after we magically beat ISIS?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:21:46pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:22:16pm

re: #69 calochortus

The typo is the uncouth one changed his mind again.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:22:58pm

re: #62 Big Beautiful Door

Details? What have they reported?

It’s complicated and difficult to summarize. I think the votes weren’t there to unbind, and there was some attempted deal-making between Ken Cuccinelli (apparently a leader of one anti-Trump faction) and Preibus where Cuccinelli offered to drop the rules challenge in exchange for changes to the 2020 rules such as implementing closed primaries in early voting states. Apparently this deal fell through (!), so it remains a mess.

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:23:10pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

I guess he doesn’t know that the president’s request has been sitting in Congress for over a year. Congress-members talk a good game about terrorism, but they’re scared sh*tless to take a vote on fighting ISIS.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:23:10pm

Trump fellates himself with joy that his “Reichstag Fire” moment has arrived

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:23:13pm

re: #77 PhillyPretzel

The typo is the uncouth one changed his mind again.

They could have just used pencil so it could be changed on the fly.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:24:02pm

re: #73 Big Beautiful Door

Of course, from the other side, many European Societies have been un-accepting of these people, which has hampered integration.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:24:05pm

re: #44 Big Beautiful Door

Just speculating, but the Dump Trump movement? I heard Mike Lee has the votes to get the minority report to unbind the delegates on the first ballot to the convention floor.

Not a chance in hell of that happening now. The Trumpsters would burn Cleveland to the ground if they tried that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:25:15pm

re: #82 Ziggy_TARDIS

Of course, from the other side, many European Societies have been un-accepting of these people, which has hampered integration.

Exactly, the US, thanks in great part to our birthright citizenship the Right so dislikes, does a much better job of assimilation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:25:36pm

He’s blaring his “plan” all over Fox News. So much for national security…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:25:38pm

re: #80 The Vicious Babushka

Trump fellates himself with joy that his “Reichstag Fire” moment has arrived

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If we are in a World War scenario, when do we get the World War tax rates?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:26:05pm

re: #83 Skip Intro

Not a chance in hell of that happening now. The Trumpsters would burn Cleveland to the ground if they tried that.

I hope you are wrong. Trump is demonstrating exactly why the GOP should deny him the nomination.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:26:45pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

He’s blaring his “plan” all over Fox News. So much for national security…

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Wow. World War! Fox “News” boner material.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:27:04pm

re: #80 The Vicious Babushka

“World war” my ass. Fifty years of terrorist atrocities worldwide likely has a civilian body count less than that of any normal major action in WWI or WWII.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:27:57pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:28:17pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

I hope you are wrong. Trump is demonstrating exactly why the GOP should deny him the nomination.

It’s gone way to far for that. They and the media sat back and let this cancer grow and metastasize. It’s going to kill them, but it damn well may kill the rest of us too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:28:32pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

He’s blaring his “plan” all over Fox News. So much for national security…

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Here you have it. Elect Trump, and US ground forces are going to be fighting a new Middle Eastern war in Iraq and Syria.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:28:42pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb

If we are in a World War scenario, when do we get the World War tax rates?

Widespread conscription and partial nationalization of key industries is also conspicuously absent.

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:28:44pm

OK, time to take a break from this insanity.
BBL

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meteor  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:29:00pm

I just want to get a stuffed bear and crawl under the covers forever.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:29:15pm

re: #90 The Vicious Babushka

Sounds like ground zero for Trump’s World War is going to be the US.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:29:21pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:29:53pm

re: #92 Big Beautiful Door

Here you have it. Elect trump, and US ground forces are going to be fighting a new Middle Eastern war in Iraq and Syria.

Optimist. Trump would have us fighting a monumentally stupid Crusade from Morocco to Indonesia.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:30:51pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb

If we are in a World War scenario, when do we get the World War tax rates?

Eliminate Social Security. Eliminate Medicare. Sell off the National Parks. Shut down the VA.

There’s plenty of money for war out there if you think like a Republican.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:30:59pm

re: #98 EPR-radar

Optimist. Trump would have us fighting a monumentally stupid Crusade from Morocco to Indonesia.

And try to free Radovan Karadzic and Anders Breivik from prison with US military might.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:31:21pm

re: #89 EPR-radar

Even the highest counts of Casualties from the War on Terror puts the death Toll at 1.26 million.

This sounds big, but the Napoleonic Wars claimed a minimum of 3.5 million. The crusades were likely deadlier.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:33:48pm

re: #101 Ziggy_TARDIS

Even the highest counts of Casualties from the War on Terror puts the death Toll at 1.26 million.

This sounds big, but the Napoleonic Wars claimed a minimum of 3.5 million. The crusades were likely deadlier.

The death toll from terrorist attacks is much less than the death toll from the “War on Terror”.

Killing at a 1000 to one ratio or worse is working ever so well. Let’s do a lot more of it. /////

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:34:29pm

re: #83 Skip Intro

Not a chance in hell of that happening now. The Trumpsters would burn Cleveland to the ground if they tried that.

Too true. Armed Trumpetarians will be holding the convention hostage, especially if the reports of slipshod security preparations are true.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:36:27pm

re: #99 Skip Intro

Eliminate Social Security. Eliminate Medicare. Sell off the National Parks. Shut down the VA.

There’s plenty of money for war out there if you think like a Republican.

There are hard limits to that kind of thing, mainly set by the unwillingness of people to fight for oligarchs that are their mortal enemies.

The Republicans are stupid and greedy enough to make themselves and the US a case study on this point.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:36:47pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:37:23pm

re: #102 EPR-radar

Another good point. Most of these has been have been done by responses to attack.

I would be curious to see the death Toll from Saudi and its promotion of Wahhabism and similar ideologies.

I did see someone point out that Wahhabism, Deobandi, and similar modes of Islamic “thought” are technically reformist movements, and that what the Muslim World needs is a Classical revival hearkening back to the Islamic Golden Age. The Reformation must fail.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:38:37pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

He’s from a blood red state. Rules can be bent if you’re one of the elite.

Didn’t some goober named Paul in KY do just that?

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:39:01pm

re: #106 Ziggy_TARDIS

Another good point. Most of these has been have been done by responses to attack.

I would be curious to see the death Toll from Saudi and its promotion of Wahhabism and similar ideologies.

I did see someone point out that Wahhabism, Deobandi, and similar modes of Islamic “thought” are technically reformist movements, and that what the Muslim World needs is a Classical revival hearkening back to the Islamic Golden Age. The Reformation must fail.

That’s exactly what I’ve been pointing out to these HURR HURR ISLAM MUST REFORM types that reformation doesn’t ALWAYS have a positive connotation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:39:29pm

Trump bashes Obama’s statement on Nice because he didn’t say the Magic Words==>

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:41:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:41:25pm
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BeachDem  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:42:05pm

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

Trump bashes Obama’s statement on Nice because he didn’t say the Magic Words==>

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O’Reilly is “efforting” to get Hillary on? EFFORTING?

Sorry I can’t read the rest of their swill after seeing that.

Pedants are us.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:42:06pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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Maybe Trump is rethinking his choice to have someone as a running mate who would make him impeachment-proof. At the rate he’s going now, anyone to the left of David Duke need not apply.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:44:11pm

Trump says it’s “inappropriate” to comment, after shooting off his mouth for the past hour==>

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:44:11pm

re: #108 electrotek

Yeah. The Ottomans almost destroyed the Sauds, and they did a good job surpressing them during their remaining existence (From the end of the Ottoman-Saudi War to the dissolution).

Then the British fucked it up, and we continued and are continuing to fuck it up.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:44:18pm

re: #113 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Maybe Trump is rethinking his choice to have someone as a running mate who would make him impeachment-proof. At the rate he’s going now, anyone to the left of David Duke need not apply.

Dick Cheney is available.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:44:57pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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That’s rich given the fact that Trump was thanking people for the “props” after Orlando.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:45:09pm

re: #116 I Would Prefer Not To

And Palin is too far.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:45:32pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

There should be a special place in hell for these “You’re an awful person because you call out someone else for being awful” idiots.

It’s the epitome of shallow vapid non-thought.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:45:41pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

This is awful. I’ve been to Nice many times on tour with various artists; it’s the site of many jazz festivals. And I recognize that beachside area - I’ve been in restaurants along that strand. Terrible to see this.

My Mom met my Dad very close to there.

She called me to describe the area as she remembered it. :(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:45:52pm

Looks like Track Palin went to jail yesterday.

Could be the real reason Sarah won’t be at the convention.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:46:25pm

GOP Cleveland organizers beg Adelson for $6 million

The GOP admits two dozen companies have pulled out because of Trump.

Can’t they just get it from their Pres candidate? That’s just chump change to him.

politico.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:46:55pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like Track Palin went to jail yesterday.

Could be the real reason Sarah won’t be at the convention.

That would make sense.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:47:12pm

re: #48 Joe Bacon

So, the Obama, EU/NATO strategy that is squeezing IS and forcing them back out of Iraq and putting a crimp on their revenues and territory held, is working. It’s forcing the terror group to lash out and try and take pressure off their prime territory.

Benny just doesn’t get it. He never did. But if he can reason to blame Obama, he’ll do it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:47:28pm

re: #119 EPR-radar

There should be a special place in hell for these “You’re an awful person because you call out someone else for being awful” idiots.

It’s the epitome of shallow vapid non-thought.

Concern trolls are the worst.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:47:41pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like Track Palin went to jail yesterday.

Could be the real reason Sarah won’t be at the convention.

Link needs more info to search.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:48:15pm

re: #124 lawhawk

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So, the Obama, EU/NATO strategy that is squeezing IS and forcing them back out of Iraq and putting a crimp on their revenues and territory held, is working. It’s forcing the terror group to lash out and try and take pressure off their prime territory.

Benny just doesn’t get it. He never did. But if he can reason to blame Obama, he’ll do it.

They want any excuse to bash Obama’s FP as “weak.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:49:24pm

re: #126 Skip Intro

Link needs more info to search.

If you enter Track Palin’s name, you will see he was remanded into custody yesterday.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:49:29pm

You know, it’s only a matter of time before someone pulls a Baruch Goldstein and goes into a mosque to massacre worshipers as an act of revenge.

I am dreading it day by day.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:50:37pm

*sad trombone*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:50:37pm

re: #126 Skip Intro

Link needs more info to search.

Case number 3PA-16-00145CR

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:50:43pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:50:43pm

re: #124 lawhawk

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So, the Obama, EU/NATO strategy that is squeezing IS and forcing them back out of Iraq and putting a crimp on their revenues and territory held, is working. It’s forcing the terror group to lash out and try and take pressure off their prime territory.

Benny just doesn’t get it. He never did. But if he can reason to blame Obama, he’ll do it.

And French naval aviation is a big part of it. A USN task force has been under French command.

(Last paragraphs.)

en.wikipedia.org

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:53:00pm
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MsJ  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:53:39pm

re: #130 teleskiguy

*sad trombone*

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What is it? I can’t get to it from my phone. Same with that Trick Palin jail link. Just takes me to a main page.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:54:17pm

re: #124 lawhawk

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So, the Obama, EU/NATO strategy that is squeezing IS and forcing them back out of Iraq and putting a crimp on their revenues and territory held, is working. It’s forcing the terror group to lash out and try and take pressure off their prime territory.

Benny just doesn’t get it. He never did. But if he can reason to blame Obama, he’ll do it.

I have to give Krauthammer credit for being honest enough to admit that, at least. The rest of the conservative universe is pushing the exact opposite meme, that Obama’s “weakness” is letting ISIS run amok.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:54:30pm

re: #135 MsJ

What is it? I can’t get to it from my phone. Same with that Trick Palin jail link. Just takes me to a main page.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:55:06pm

re: #132 lawhawk

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If Hillary voters are “vagina voters” what on earth does make Trump voters, baby dick voters? I mean she was by far the most qualified candidate from either party to run this time.

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plansbandc  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:55:44pm

re: #132 lawhawk

Vagina voters. Holy shit.

How can any woman vote for an R ever?

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:55:55pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart

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Heh. Proof. I had heard things were tough up in Cleveland cost wise.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:56:07pm

re: #134 electrotek

The Guardian:

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What a lot of anti-Muslim assholes don’t get is that ISIS has killed plenty of Muslims too but they idiotically think all Muslims are the same.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:56:07pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

I have to give Krauthammer credit for being honest enough to admit that, at least. The rest of the conservative universe is pushing the exact opposite meme, that Obama’s “weakness” is letting ISIS run amok.

Even though he does say stupid shit from time to time, he’s actually a decent conservative compared to the other kooks.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:56:55pm

Hillary is on O’Reilly.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:57:09pm

re: #139 plansbandc

Vagina voters. Holy shit.

This is an early start on the horrifying level of misogyny to be expected from Republicans this election.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:57:23pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

That’s what caught my attention, that he frankly admits that the Obama strategy as it has evolved has been very successful in reducing IS power.

Max Abrahms has echoed that sentiment, and still puts al Nursa ahead of IS on the threat matrix. I tend to concur.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:57:30pm

re: #143 Frankie Five Angels

I hope she doesn’t let him up.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:57:38pm

re: #128 Big Beautiful Door

If you enter Track Palin’s name, you will see he was remanded into custody yesterday.

Good catch.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:58:33pm

re: #42 majii

Of course Freepers are all over HRC not issuing a statement at this point. It will never enter their minds that some people like to investigate matters and do a bit of research before issuing statements. They like Trump’s approach——something happens, he takes to Twitter and runs to Fox to spew stupid nonsense based on what he “thinks” or feels in his “gut.” Never mind that the things he says makes them more stupid, but they like it, they really like it. They don’t deal well with measured, fact-based commentary.

What does it matter? The usual gang of asshats will bitch about whatever she says.

Plus, after Bengahzi and the initial labeling of what happened, you can damn be sure she is going to want to know what happened down to the nth detail.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:58:34pm

No wonder Trump U didn’t scare off GOPers or force Trump from the race.

A bunch of other GOP politicians were up to their eyeballs in the same kinds of scam schools.

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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:58:35pm

So Trump is “winning” the Twitter me-first war on consoling the ppl of Nice (aka going off half cocked).

I guaran-fucking-tee that Sec Clinton has been on the phone with leadership and dignitaries of France non stop since this broke.

Twitter is for memes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:59:36pm

I got a note from my mother, who is actively against Trump (this is much more than I normally hear from her on politics stuff). Apparently my parents are still getting Republican/Trump fliers for my grandfather.

My grandfather died 6 years ago on the 4th.

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Franklin  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:59:48pm

re: #150 Franklin

Then again, what do you expect from the Thoughts and Prayers party.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 14, 2016 • 5:59:51pm

re: #146 jaunte

I hope she doesn’t let him up.

It was very respectful. I’ll give them both credit.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:00:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:00:05pm

Caught the tail end of Obama’s forum. Very powerful stuff. I’m going to miss this President so much in January. By far the best one of my lifetime.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:01:01pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

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They want us to be hostile to all Muslims so they can have fertile recruiting grounds. It’s so fucking simple but because conservative pundits and candidates are idiots.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:01:06pm

re: #145 lawhawk

That’s what caught my attention, that he frankly admits that the Obama strategy as it has evolved has been very successful in reducing IS power.

Max Abrahms has echoed that sentiment, and still puts al Nursa ahead of IS on the threat matrix. I tend to concur.

It’s ridiculous that this is even a partisan issue in the first place. Anti-terrorism really has only one absolute requirement: total honesty in evaluating what works, what doesn’t work, and an ability to learn lessons as needed.

How the hell can this be a partisan dispute?

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:01:42pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:02:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:02:17pm

re: #158 lawhawk

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I’m glad. I’ve never been a big Tebow fan but he always seemed like a decent guy at least.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:04:28pm

In Arkansas:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:04:58pm

re: #107 Skip Intro

He’s from a blood red state. Rules can be bent if you’re one of the elite.

Didn’t some goober named Paul in KY do just that?

While we’re at it, how is that anal wart Ryan still in the House after losing as VP?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:05:23pm
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:05:45pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Touchdown Jesus wasn’t amused?

The whole RNC convention is a shitshot, and that they’re still playing games with the speakers, who’s attending, and all the rest is something straight out of reality show casting.

What Trump seems to ignore is that politics, especially US domestic politics, and foreign policy generally, is about rationality and predictability.

We want leaders who are predictable. That when they say something they mean it - that their positions are consistent. Trump is the antithesis of consistency. He’s inconsistent and prone to saying/doing anything that comes to mind, even if it contradicts what he said mere moments before.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:05:51pm

re: #162 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

While we’re at it, how is that anal wart Ryan still in the House after losing as VP?

To be fair, Kerry stayed in the Senate after Bush beat him. It’s not uncommon.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:07:35pm

re: #162 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Anal Wart Ryan” might be even better than zombie-eyed granny-starver. +1.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:07:56pm

Hillary calling in to Anderson Cooper on CNN

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:10:18pm

re: #164 lawhawk

There is one thing about a Trump presidency that can be predicted with 100% certainty.

It would be a clusterfuck of completely unprecedented magnitude.

The exact details of the multiple simultaneous disasters he would cause are, of course, completely uncertain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:10:45pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

There is one thing about a Trump presidency that can be predicted with 100% certainty.

It would be a clusterfuck of completely unprecedented magnitude.

The exact details of the multiple simultaneous disasters he would cause are, of course, completely uncertain.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:12:57pm

re: #163 FormerDirtDart

Good. They needed to open up a slot for Barron Trump anyway.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:14:07pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

But Fox “News” would have his back all the way.

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MsJ  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:14:29pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump lost Jon Lovett? Wow.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:14:41pm

re: #149 lawhawk

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No wonder Trump U didn’t scare off GOPers or force Trump from the race.

A bunch of other GOP politicians were up to their eyeballs in the same kinds of scam schools.

Liberty University and the like. Cranking out ‘degrees’ to ideologues who populate congregations and ‘think tanks’ all over the country.

The top of the class gets the Wingnut Welfare, and the book deals and TV appearances.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:15:29pm
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:17:44pm

OFFS:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:19:36pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:22:29pm

re: #165 HappyWarrior

To be fair, Kerry stayed in the Senate after Bush beat him. It’s not uncommon.

A senator is different. He’d been reelected on 2002, wasn’t up again till 2008. Ryan had to have run for both Congressman and VP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:23:08pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:23:52pm

re: #134 electrotek

That’s not surprising. Nice has a higher than average number of immigrants and Muslims, if I am not mistaken.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:24:08pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:26:59pm

re: #177 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

A senator is different. He’d been reelected on 2002, wasn’t up again till 2008. Ryan had to have run for both Congressman and VP.

Oh true. Good point.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:27:49pm

Trump will delay his VP announcement tomorrow in NYC out of respect…

At 09:45AM tomorrow the 13th stage of the Tour de France is scheduled to start in Bourg-Saint-Andéol, a 180 odd mile drive from Nice. No announcement has been made suggesting it will be postponed or delayed…

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:28:37pm

re: #179 Jebediah, RBG

Thanks, I got it.

I guess saying Cleveland is just too far way sounds better than my kid just went to jail.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:28:45pm

Bucket of Salt, but…

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:30:06pm

re: #183 FormerDirtDart

He’s postponing it out of respect for Trump. He can’t stand it if anything takes the spotlight off of him.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:30:29pm

Yep, it looks like Track Palin has been remanded to jail on his domestic violence case.

courtrecords.alaska.gov

Case # 3PA-16-00145CR

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:30:34pm

re: #184 Skip Intro

Yup!

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:32:05pm

re: #183 FormerDirtDart

Trump will delay his VP announcement tomorrow in NYC out of respect…

At 09:45AM tomorrow the 13th stage of the Tour de France is scheduled to start in Bourg-Saint-Andéol, a 180 odd mile drive from Nice. No announcement has been made suggesting it will be postpones or delayed…

One is being done to respect/honor that life goes on, even in the face of bloody terrorism, the other is an excuse to put off a decision that has to be made. To be sure, the French take the TdF very seriously. They’ll increase security, and they’ll be vigilant, and they’ll carry on.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:32:32pm

re: #183 FormerDirtDart

Trump will delay his VP announcement tomorrow in NYC out of respect…

At 09:45AM tomorrow the 13th stage of the Tour de France is scheduled to start in Bourg-Saint-Andéol, a 180 odd mile drive from Nice. No announcement has been made suggesting it will be postpones or delayed…

Like Keith O. said, he’s an amateur.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:34:16pm

re: #190 Stanley Sea

Like Keith O. said, he’s an amateur.

Like McCain suspending his campaign.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:35:08pm

re: #185 Ziggy_TARDIS

It should be noted, DAESH has gotten an unusually high number of volunteers from Tunisia.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:38:18pm

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Tigger2  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:38:43pm

re: #107 Skip Intro

He’s from a blood red state. Rules can be bent if you’re one of the elite.

Didn’t some goober named Paul in KY do just that?

A lot of people in Indiana are sick of Pence and that includes many GOPs from the State Legislature.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:40:10pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:41:50pm

This should help keep tempers in check next week as well as being another nail in the coffin of “Globull Warming”.

Massive Heat Wave Expected to Hit Much of the U.S. Next Week

The unusually hot temperatures come amidst an extended warm period that has most climate scientists expecting that 2016 will be the hottest year on record. The climate phenomenon El Niño and long-term global warming have both contributed to this year’s temperature spike, climate scientists say.

time.com

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:43:26pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:45:22pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

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We’ve decided that height above the geoid is what counts, but I think the peak of Kilimanjaro is as far as you can get from the center of the Earth, so that should be an accomplishment….

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:45:29pm

Heh, and SarahPac #’s just came out.

Bad week. EDIT: OLD STORY

It’s supposed to be released soon. Not sure why this tweet now……?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:48:41pm

Here is a typical unhinged wingnut Tweet==>

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:49:06pm

Holy shit, the BBC World News translator is awful.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:49:35pm

Here’s the recent SarahPac report. Sorry, trigger fingers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:50:15pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:50:26pm

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:50:46pm

All the chairborne rangers and armchair advocates still seem to think they know what’s best. Bust out the bombers and attack someone. Somewhere.

Can you identify who/what/where/how? We’re not even done counting the bodies, and some think bombers should be already at it.

Yet, when it comes to putting arms on the ground, sending troops into country X, they wont go for any of it.

The Congress sits in recess for a long vacation as the House returns home to politick to get to keep their jobs. They’re doing less work than prior Congressional efforts, and that’s saying something. Speaker Ryan refuses to act on an AUMF. The GOP wont.

Even with all those constraints, the President’s policies have seen that IS losing ground by the day, and that Iraq and Syria are taking back territory from the terrorist groups.

But the ankle biters will complain that action is being taken, or that words were uttered. Like malicious Malkin. And all the rest…

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:51:00pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:53:04pm

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Here is a typical unhinged wingnut Tweet==>

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Oh I see. Obama’s to blame for Nice but Bush deserves no blame at all for 9/11. Choke on a gun, wingnut asshole.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:53:31pm

re: #205 lawhawk

newsweek.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:53:40pm

re: #204 gocart mozart

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Ben is on the wrong side of history and I caught some of Obama’s townhall. He acted like a leader, something that Ben doesn’t know the first thing about.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:54:24pm

Boom. Someone grab me a mic drop, because this is epic:

When Momma Bush says how any woman can vote for Trump, you know it’s on like Donkey Kong. She knows that Trump is a disgraceful POS and is awful for women, but so too is the rest of the party. She’s trying to lance a boil, when it’s really an invasive cancer that started even before her husband was VP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:57:14pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:57:51pm

re: #210 lawhawk

Guess who Trump attacks next.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 6:59:58pm

re: #212 Skip Intro

That’s a fight that Trump cannot win. But he thinks he could.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:00:23pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:01:24pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:02:10pm

every terrorist attack brings fascism here closer

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:02:42pm

I saw someone on Twitter say this after Orlando, but I liked it, we should be calling these nimrods Deviant Muslims.

The logic I saw in the tweet used an analogy comparing Islam to a recipe. For example, someone normal would follow a recipe saying it that normally, someone would follow the recipe, and put just 2 Tablespoons of Sugar in. A radical might put in four. However, a deviant would substitute Rat Poison for Sugar. Which is what the equivalent of what these nuts do, ignoring traditional and moderate trains of thought, in favour of twisting things.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:02:52pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:02:59pm

re: #214 gocart mozart

Geez…
Now I feel a bit dickish…
I was about to post “Don Lemon taking over anchoring CNN’s coverage.. Think I’ll take my dogs out to piss”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:03:56pm

re: #215 gocart mozart

2h
Joe Walsh @WalshFreedom
What happens when cowardly leaders don’t take the threat of Islam seriously? 73 dead bodies in Nice. What’ll it take to get serious?

im sorry asshole bombing the living shit out of isis on the ground in iraq isnt what you had in mind?

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:04:06pm

GOPers readying to suspend the 4A against Muslims. Violating the 1A.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:04:10pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:04:24pm

re: #213 lawhawk

That’s a fight that Trump cannot win. But he thinks he could.

And I hope he’s stupid enough to start it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:05:56pm

re: #210 lawhawk

Boom. Someone grab me a mic drop, because this is epic:

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When Momma Bush says how any woman can vote for Trump, you know it’s on like Donkey Kong. She knows that Trump is a disgraceful POS and is awful for women, but so too is the rest of the party. She’s trying to lance a boil, when it’s really an invasive cancer that started even before her husband was VP.

That could be huge with a certain demographic. Not the fanatical Trumporrhoids, but nice “respectable” GOP voters in states like Ohio and Missouri, maybe even Indiana….

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:06:19pm

Browsing though the Alaska court records I see that the whole Palin family keeps the courts busy. No wonder Sarah thinks she can play a judge on tv.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:06:36pm

re: #214 gocart mozart

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because complaining about racism is just boring and annoying

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:07:57pm

anything a president you know who will do is only likely to result in more terrorism

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:07:59pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:08:28pm

re: #217 Ziggy_TARDIS

Do we know the killer was a Muslim and involved with ISIS? I’d like to know before Trump/O’Reilly decide to start WWIII.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:09:09pm

re: #225 Skip Intro

Browsing though the Alaska court records I see that the whole Palin family keeps the courts busy. No wonder Sarah thinks she can play a judge on tv.

OK, I might watch “”Palin’s Court”
I’m amused easily by rambling drunks

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:09:28pm
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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:10:04pm

re: #229 Skip Intro

Do we know the killer was a Muslim and involved with ISIS? I’d like to know before Trump/O’Reilly decide to start WWIII.

I still haven’t forgot the mass crow the wingnuts had to consume when the Norway terrorist attacks were revealed to be the work of an anti-Muslim fascist who cited prominent American right-wingers in his manifesto.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:10:14pm

Yeah it’s Obama’s fault keep on telling yourself that Joey if it makes you sleep better at night. By the way, how are the kids that you don’t give a shit about?

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:10:26pm

re: #221 lawhawk

The best thing that could happen to this country would be for Fox “News” to be swallowed up by a massive sink hole. Too bad they’re in New York instead of Florida.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:10:51pm

It’s really pathetic watching conservatives pissing their pants every time there is a terrorist attack. Because that’s exactly what we need. ///

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kirkspencer  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:11:01pm

re: #224 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That could be huge with a certain demographic. Not the fanatical Trumporrhoids, but nice “respectable” GOP voters in states like Ohio and Missouri, maybe even Indiana….

I suspect it’ll be huge with GOP women.

It’s too early to give any of the polls serious weight, but I’ve found it interesting to watch the crosstab trends. Women have traditionally tilted Democratic, but if the current trends continue it’s going to be outright leaning.

And when 51 to 52% of the voting population shifts even 3 to 5% more to one side or another, it matters.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:11:05pm

re: #231 Joe Bacon

“Overloading Depends.” Me like. Upding!

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:11:15pm

re: #213 lawhawk

That’s a fight that Trump cannot win. But he thinks he could.

That story’s from back in February. He didn’t go after her at all, that I can remember.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:11:36pm

re: #230 FormerDirtDart

OK, I might watch “”Palin’s Court”
I’m amused easily by rambling drunks

She’ll never fill Foster Brooks’ shoes.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:13:47pm

Later Lizards. Tough end of a day.

I fear where this is all taking the world. It’s like the two trains heading at each other to hit head on and no one can stop it.

Once again…a lot of those yelling to take up arms won’t be the ones taking up arms.

Bummed.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:14:56pm

re: #126 Skip Intro

It seems like he took a plea deal yesterday which includes some jail time. Anyone have a link to a news account.

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Great White Snark  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:16:01pm

Oh my god. I gotta turn away. This pic did me in for the night.
Grown man cries

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MsJ  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:16:15pm

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Here is a typical unhinged wingnut Tweet==>

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I did not know I voted for Obama for president of France. Huh. The things wingnuts teach me.

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b_sharp  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:16:18pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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Nerd!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:17:27pm

re: #157 EPR-radar

It’s ridiculous that this is even a partisan issue in the first place. Anti-terrorism really has only one absolute requirement: total honesty in evaluating what works, what doesn’t work, and an ability to learn lessons as needed.

How the hell can this be a partisan dispute?

Because total honesty violates GOP principles.

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Great White Snark  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:17:48pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:19:50pm

re: #216 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

every terrorist attack brings fascism here closer

Which is kind of the whole point.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:19:50pm

re: #241 gocart mozart

It seems like he took a plea deal yesterday which includes some jail time. Anyone have a link to a news account.

I can’t find anything.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:23:49pm

Evening Lizardim from the cloudy, rainy wild north country - perfectly appropriate, given the news. Fuck the world, fuck this bullshit, fuck everything; I’m just going to be heads-down under the hood of my wife’s big brown Continental for the next, oh, 30 years. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:25:46pm

re: #177 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

A senator is different. He’d been reelected on 2002, wasn’t up again till 2008. Ryan had to have run for both Congressman and VP.

Obviously it was legal in Wisconsin for him to be on the ballot for two different offices. Its not in Kentucky or Indiana.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:25:50pm

re: #249 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim from the cloudy, rainy wild north country - perfectly appropriate, given the news. Fuck the world, fuck this bullshit, fuck everything; I’m just going to be heads-down under the hood of my wife’s big brown Continental for the next, oh, 30 years. How go things among the lizardfolk?

The cupboard was bare. I’m getting Thai takeout. Treating myself.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:26:10pm

I apologize to the nation that this piece of shit is the Lt Gov of the state I live in.

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MsJ  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:26:36pm

re: #224 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That could be huge with a certain demographic. Not the fanatical Trumporrhoids, but nice “respectable” GOP voters in states like Ohio and Missouri, maybe even Indiana….

Could also be seen as retribution for trumps dis of her favorite son.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:27:29pm

I just don’t understand why Trump supporters are so thirsty for his version of the world - that’s it’s out of control, that no one is to be trusted, that only one man can solve the problem.

It’s as if they’ve completely given up on seeing any good in the world and they see the world as too far gone to be able to appreciate anything. I’m not getting it.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:29:06pm

Why doesn’t Trump say he is going to build a wall around ISIS and make them pay for it?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:29:42pm

re: #249 thedopefishlives

I have a Brussels sprouts mustard slaw marinating. Still need to remake the bed since I did laundry today. Talking with a friend about his wedding plans. Still have to make the rest of dinner too, but that’s waiting on mr. klys leaving the office.

Have to pack for a weekend at the state fair.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:29:51pm

re: #252 Frankie Five Angels

I apologize to the nation that this piece of shit is the Lt Gov of the state I live in.

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I hope Obama quietly and respectfully gutted him like a trout.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:29:56pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:30:18pm
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MsJ  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:30:24pm
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Scout  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:30:55pm

How much of all this stems directly from the U.S. invasion of Iraq?

I can’t help but wonder if the people who led that war — and the regular people who cheered it on — ever feel even a little remorse?

Many of us knew it was a mistake and marched against it. We were called “unpatriotic,” “idiotarians,” “traitors” and worse.

I just feel so sick at heart right now I can’t even think straight.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:31:10pm

re: #218 electrotek

I nominate “trumping the chicken” as the new euphemism for jerking off. Do I hear a second?

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:31:44pm

re: #261 Scout

How much of all this stems directly from the U.S. invasion of Iraq?

I can’t help but wonder if the people who led that war — and the regular people who cheered it on — ever feel even a little remorse?

Many of us knew it was a mistake and marched against it. We were called “unpatriotic,” “idotarians,” “traitors” and worse.

I just feel so sick at heart right now I can’t even think straight.

And the countries who opposed it, such as France, are the ones paying a dear price for it.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:32:37pm

re: #254 makeitstop

No, you get it exactly.

He’s Change They Want to Believe In. He’s gonna stop those Mexicans, and murder all those Mooslims, and bomb bomb bomb bomb and make American explosions again. Like WW2 except against brown bad guys. And all while talking straight and not getting away with crimes!!11.

He’s romanticism for right-wingers. I work with a guy who loves to think he’s making a rational choice because Trump THINKS THE RIGHT WAY but really it’s an emotional thing, through and through. Trump is big daddy who will make bad things stop.

If you guessed my co-worker is a white guy in his late fifties who’s voted straight-ticked Republican his whole life, give yourself a cookie…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:33:59pm

re: #199 Stanley Sea

Heh, and SarahPac #’s just came out.

Bad week. EDIT: OLD STORY

It’s supposed to be released soon. Not sure why this tweet now……?

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This is my surprised face.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:34:55pm

re: #258 Jenner7

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I’m old enough to remember that after 9/11 that a Republican President urged against blaming all Muslims for acts of terrorism.

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Archangelus  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:35:35pm

re: #262 gocart mozart

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I nominate “trumping the chicken” as the new euphemism for jerking off. Do I hear a second?

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:35:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:36:31pm

re: #252 Frankie Five Angels

I apologize to the nation that this piece of shit is the Lt Gov of the state I live in.

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Fuck Dan Patrick. I’m sick of these assholes accusing everyone who doesn’t think that the police should be able to shoot unarmed people as being anti cops. It is people like YOU, Dan who enable bad cops by excusing criminal behavior.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:36:59pm

re: #258 Jenner7

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thedopefishlives  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:37:18pm

re: #256 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have a Brussels sprouts mustard slaw marinating. Still need to remake the bed since I did laundry today. Talking with a friend about his wedding plans. Still have to make the rest of dinner too, but that’s waiting on mr. klys leaving the office.

Have to pack for a weekend at the state fair.

Since I got back from fish country on Tuesday night, I have been working feverishly on that old brown Lincoln. I finished up the last major tasks earlier tonight; all it needs now is a new fuel hose and clamps, and a new battery (or to borrow one from Mrs. Fish’s daily driver… shhh…) It’s been a great way to get my mind off of all the bullshit that seems to occupy our worldspace right now. That, and catching Pokemon at work. I’m pretty sure one of our senior partners is the one that keeps hitting our nearest PokeStop with a lure module…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:37:25pm

re: #266 HappyWarrior

I’m old enough to remember that after 9/11 that a Republican President urged against blaming all Muslims for acts of terrorism.

And used exactly the kind of language to describe the enemy as Obama uses, and nobody thought he was a secret Muslim.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:37:26pm

re: #258 Jenner7

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:38:27pm

re: #270 FormerDirtDart

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WELL OBVIOuSLY THEY DIDN’t MEET IT FOR MUSLIMS. It’s so pathetic. Wingnuts love to tell you that they have a wonderful understanding of the Constitution and us libtards are too stupid to know but they repeatedly suggest shit like this that blatantly violates it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:38:56pm

re: #272 Blind Frog Belly White

And used exactly the kind of language to describe the enemy as Obama uses, and nobody thought he was a secret Muslim.

Exactly but he wasn’t a black guy with the middle name Hussein and he was a Republican so it was different.

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retired cynic  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:39:21pm

re: #265 Big Beautiful Door

This is my surprised face.

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Love the embroidery on the jacket!

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thedopefishlives  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:40:20pm

One of my wingnut church friends was surprised when I told him that the reason Islamic terrorists blow up other Muslims is because they believe all other Muslims but themselves are wrong. He seemed to subscribe to the whole, “Kill ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out” mentality. There isn’t much hope for that one, but hey, one has to try sometimes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:41:34pm

re: #271 thedopefishlives

Since I got back from fish country on Tuesday night, I have been working feverishly on that old brown Lincoln. I finished up the last major tasks earlier tonight; all it needs now is a new fuel hose and clamps, and a new battery (or to borrow one from Mrs. Fish’s daily driver… shhh…) It’s been a great way to get my mind off of all the bullshit that seems to occupy our worldspace right now. That, and catching Pokemon at work. I’m pretty sure one of our senior partners is the one that keeps hitting our nearest PokeStop with a lure module…

I went to the park today to get in my step count (since Thursday is a weights day, which I turned into pilates, because stretching felt good and seriously that can still kick my ass). That was productive (caught two new ones) and then I had my afternoon free to write.

I picked up a clip-on LED light with rechargable battery (that runs off a USB adapter) and another battery pack (shhh) on Amazon Prime Day so I’m hoping to take my cross stitch with me on the train ride this weekend and make some progress. Also, my phone should not die while at the fairgrounds and I’m hoping for some new variety. And a few stops.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:41:45pm

re: #277 thedopefishlives

One of my wingnut church friends was surprised when I told him that the reason Islamic terrorists blow up other Muslims is because they believe all other Muslims but themselves are wrong. He seemed to subscribe to the whole, “Kill ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out” mentality. There isn’t much hope for that one, but hey, one has to try sometimes.

People like that not only don’t know the difference between Shia and Sunni, they don’t care to know the difference. They don’t care that in the 1990’s the Taliban was killing Shia Muslims and their Republican Party was silent about it. The Human Rights liberals that they despise were condemning the Taliban long before any American Republicans were.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:41:52pm

Found linked at the bottom of an article about next week’s heat wave:

First Openly Gay Republican on GOP Platform Committee: ‘Why Am I Even Here?’

It’s as pitiful as you would expect. Poor, sheltered young woman. Educational failure in this country isn’t just about not knowing facts, it’s about not being able to see and think clearly.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:41:53pm

re: #277 thedopefishlives

One of my wingnut church friends was surprised when I told him that the reason Islamic terrorists blow up other Muslims is because they believe all other Muslims but themselves are wrong. He seemed to subscribe to the whole, “Kill ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out” mentality. There isn’t much hope for that one, but hey, one has to try sometimes.

Dialogue will often yield more benefits than anything else.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:42:40pm
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A Cranky One  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:42:50pm

Having been fed a non-stop diet of fear for years, many Republicans long for a daddy figure to protect them from all the bad people. To check their closet for scary monsters before bed. To tell them they are special and better than all those “others”.

Babies. Sad!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:42:59pm

re: #254 makeitstop

I just don’t understand why Trump supporters are so thirsty for his version of the world - that’s it’s out of control, that no one is to be trusted, that only one man can solve the problem.

It’s as if they’ve completely given up on seeing any good in the world and they see the world as too far gone to be able to appreciate anything. I’m not getting it.

It is basic to the fundamentalist mindset that human beings are depraved; they don’t see anything good in this world, only in the next.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:43:38pm

I’m sorry, I take @Stonekettle’s stance in that there are no accidents involving guns, just negligence.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:44:12pm

re: #258 Jenner7

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Trump spokesperson basically says what I was expecting from Trump: mass deportation of muslims.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:44:45pm

Newt’s gunnin’ hard for that VP slot.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:46:05pm

re: #261 Scout

How much of all this stems directly from the U.S. invasion of Iraq?

I can’t help but wonder if the people who led that war — and the regular people who cheered it on — ever feel even a little remorse?

Many of us knew it was a mistake and marched against it. We were called “unpatriotic,” “idiotarians,” “traitors” and worse.

I just feel so sick at heart right now I can’t even think straight.

I apologize for swallowing Bush’s lies.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:46:11pm

politico.com

Obama basically tells little Danny to shut the fuck up.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:46:33pm

re: #272 Blind Frog Belly White

And used exactly the kind of language to describe the enemy as Obama uses, and nobody thought he was a secret Muslim.

He also let dozens of rich Saudi relatives of Bin Laden leave the U.S. in the week after 9/11. I’m not saying those individuals were guilty of anything, but imagine if Obama did something like that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:47:19pm

re: #287 Jenner7

Newt’s gunnin’ hard for that VP slot.

And tRump’s going to decide he needs his “expertise” on the ticket because of this new World War that just started. Mike Pence left hanging. You heard it here first.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:48:12pm


Washington Post
Trump supporters sue California city for after-rally attacks
Washington Post - ‎3 hours ago‎
SAN FRANCISCO - Fourteen California Donald Trump supporters filed a civil rights lawsuit Thursday, saying that San Jose’s police failed to protect them from violent protesters after a campaign rally last month.

but are you in favor of raises for policemen, preservation of pensions, and civil service unions?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:48:34pm

A moment of levity

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MsJ  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:48:47pm

re: #280 Pawn of the Oppressor

Found linked at the bottom of an article about next week’s heat wave:

First Openly Gay Republican on GOP Platform Committee: ‘Why Am I Even Here?’

It’s as pitiful as you would expect. Poor, sheltered young woman. Educational failure in this country isn’t just about not knowing facts, it’s about not being able to see and think clearly.

What. A. Dunce. Seriously, this is a stupid, ignorant woman.

How’s that small government thing working out for you, your uterus and your bedroom?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:49:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:49:53pm

re: #280 Pawn of the Oppressor

Found linked at the bottom of an article about next week’s heat wave:

First Openly Gay Republican on GOP Platform Committee: ‘Why Am I Even Here?’

It’s as pitiful as you would expect. Poor, sheltered young woman. Educational failure in this country isn’t just about not knowing facts, it’s about not being able to see and think clearly.

I just do not get people like her at all. Okay, it’s one thing to have disagreements with your party. It’s another thing when your party is filled with people who think you’re a sexual deviant who abuses children. She seems upset that many in the LGBT community view the Republican Party in a negative light. Why, yes, why shouldn’t they?

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dangerman  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:50:17pm

re: #285 teleskiguy

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I’m sorry, I take @Stonekettle’s stance in that there are no accidents involving guns, just negligence.

control your weapon at all times. Or jail fines and lose your 2a privileges. No second chances.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:50:24pm

Holy shit.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:50:41pm
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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:50:41pm

re: #296 HappyWarrior

I just do not get people like her at all. Okay, it’s one thing to have disagreements with your party. It’s another thing when your party is filled with people who think you’re a sexual deviant who abuses children. She seems upset that many in the LGBT community view the Republican Party in a negative light. Why, yes, why shouldn’t they?

Then they’ll retort by saying, “But at least they’re not throwing me off a roof for being gay!”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:51:06pm

re: #242 Great White Snark

:’(

I hope the frothing asshole who did this enjoys Hell.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:51:48pm

re: #300 electrotek

Then they’ll retort by saying, “But at least they’re not throwing me off a roof for being gay!”

Which is fucking stupid.

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dangerman  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:52:10pm

re: #292 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸


Washington Post
Trump supporters sue California city for after-rally attacks
Washington Post - ‎3 hours ago‎
SAN FRANCISCO - Fourteen California Donald Trump supporters filed a civil rights lawsuit Thursday, saying that San Jose’s police failed to protect them from violent protesters after a campaign rally last month.

but are you in favor of raises for policemen, preservation of pensions, and civil service unions?

I thought we weren’t supposed to count on police evre being there in time..

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:52:17pm

re: #268 electrotek

I am wondering why France is being singled out so much for attacks.

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:52:19pm

re: #295 Ace-o-aces

I think it requires a duck feather, a tank of water, and a balancing beam.

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:52:31pm
307
Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:52:32pm
308
Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:53:22pm

re: #298 Charles Johnson

Fox News is just pure evil now.

309
teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:53:51pm

re: #297 dangerman

control your weapon at all times. Or jail fines and lose your 2a privileges. No second chances.

You know it. Here’s @Stonekettle’s solutions, highly recommended reading for everybody here.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:55:15pm
311
De Kolta Chair  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:55:17pm

Donald Trump responds:

The time for Freedom Fries has long passed. Now is the time for Mein Kampf Ketchup and Triumph of the Will Waffles!

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:55:46pm

re: #305 Skip Intro

I think it requires a duck feather, a tank of water, and a balancing beam.

I’m sure some wing-nut idiot will be like, “make them eat a ham sandwich.” Because Islamaphobes seem to think Muslims are some kind of pork-Vampires.

313
Frankie Five Angels  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:56:22pm

re: #308 Skip Intro

Fox News is just pure evil now.

Now?

314
De Kolta Chair  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:59:32pm

re: #308 Skip Intro

Fox News is just pure evil now.

Evil is as evil does since 1996.

Only 1996 is hard to believe. Seems like many Roger Ailes heart attack breakfasts longer than that.

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Tigger2  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:00:55pm

re: #258 Jenner7

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:01:02pm

re: #295 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Paid informants who get bonuses based on the number of muslims who are deported due to their reports./

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:01:54pm

re: #315 Tigger2

[Embedded content]

Test this Fox: Ma ma ma ma my sharia!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:02:15pm

re: #298 Charles Johnson

Holy shit.

[Embedded content]

I called it earlier tonight. Mass deportation of Muslims was the next logical step for Trump.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:03:02pm

re: #257 makeitstop

I hope Obama quietly and respectfully gutted him like a trout.

He did: quietly and respectfully as always.

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:03:08pm

re: #292 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“but are you in favor of raises for policemen, preservation of pensions, and civil service unions?”

They worship the badge, not the person wearing it, and they probably think they don’t need pensions and unions are evil. I feel this way because I’m a retired schoolteacher in GA who has heard right-wingers talk about how they want their kids to be well-educated, would never choose to teach school, and blame teachers’ unions when their craptastic RW-led state General Assembly here gut the education budget and liee about it. It’s always someone/thing else’s fault that our kids’ academic achievement isn’t what it could be. Never mind that public employees in GA can’t bargain collectively because it’s in the state constitution. They just know we’re union members, unions are to be hated, don’t care that the RW lawmakers they voted into office give the money that should be spent on education and pensions to corporations that never create the number of jobs their CEOs promise to provide.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:03:39pm

re: #295 Ace-o-aces

I’m sure they’ll be bringing back the auto-de-fé.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:16:11pm

re: #282 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:17:17pm

re: #289 Frankie Five Angels

politico.com

Obama basically tells little Danny to shut the fuck up.

So pitiful. Blaming Obama for words. WORDS.

Clueless, weak GOP leaders. Clueless weak GOP voters.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:18:19pm

re: #44 Big Beautiful Door

Just speculating, but the Dump Trump movement? I heard Mike Lee has the votes to get the minority report to unbind the delegates on the first ballot to the convention floor.

Strophe

325
BeenHereAwhile  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:20:39pm

re: #51 EPR-radar

I’ve been following the GOP rule committee story over at RedState, and from that it looks like unbinding the delegates isn’t going to happen.

Antistrophe

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:30:07pm

re: #254 makeitstop

I just don’t understand why Trump supporters are so thirsty for his version of the world - that’s it’s out of control, that no one is to be trusted, that only one man can solve the problem.

It’s as if they’ve completely given up on seeing any good in the world and they see the world as too far gone to be able to appreciate anything. I’m not getting it.

People who live in the right-wing bubble already live in that world. Their media has been pumping them full of fear and disinformation, so they’re glad to see someone come along who will respond to their imagined threats.

The world looks a lot different if you’ve let the Republicans manipulate your worldview.

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vgranucci  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:46:29pm

re: #132 lawhawk

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Vagina Voters???!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:09:30pm

re: #311 De Kolta Chair

Donald Trump responds:

Arbeit macht fries

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unproven innocence  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:44:33am

re: #262 gocart mozart

I nominate “trumping the chicken” as the new euphemism for jerking off. Do I hear a second?

Not here. My dad served in the Us Navy in WW2. Over the next few decades, he refused to eat chicken. I think my mom never understood why.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:53:34am

re: #262 gocart mozart

I nominate “trumping the chicken” as the new euphemism for jerking off. Do I hear a second?

Yanking it while loudly bragging about the awesomeness of one’s junk.

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Ojoe  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:43:56am

It is time to physically fight these animals in an all-out war.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:03:53am

re: #331 Ojoe

It is time to physically fight these animals in an all-out war.

So when are you signing up? Or did you mean it’s time to send someone else to do it for you? Are we gonna declare war on France, or…? //

Drop a turd in a dead thread and then run away—perfect example of RWNJ “bravery.”

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:27:00pm

re: #331 Ojoe

It is time to physically fight these animals in an all-out war.

Fuck off, animal.


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