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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:55:01pm

He’s not the only asshole on Fox tonight.

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Great White Snark  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:56:57pm

We should… test every GOP pol and if they no longer believe in our constitution, they should be deported.

Just try it Newt. Send your goons.

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Stephen T.  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:56:58pm

Are we going to start mass surveillance of those who believe in the Christian version of Sharia? ‘Cause there are a few state governors I’d like to report.

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:57:13pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:57:26pm

So how do we “test” them?

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:57:37pm

Fox is wall to wall assholes 24/7. Horrible people, horrible network.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:57:48pm

Oh look, conservatives shitting their pants. Cowards.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:58:04pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:58:13pm
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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:58:19pm

And this is the same guy that said this last week:

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SteelPH  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:58:41pm

Uh huh. What about Muslims that are natural-born citizens? Where exactly do you deport them to, Mr. Gingrich?

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:59:07pm

Newt will be the VP pick now.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 7:59:31pm

Repost from downstairs

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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:01:53pm

Every time I hear one of these idiots say something like this, I want them to define sharia beyond “Islamic law”, like I want specific examples and then I want to know how it is different than the religious actions of others

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:01:58pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

He may be referring to the sane comments.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:02:19pm

re: #12 Frankie Five Angels

Newt will be the VP pick now.

No…
But, you can look forward to a Trump Universe with Boris Johnson as the UK Foreign Secretary, and Newt Gingrich as the US Secretary of State…

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Tigger2  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:02:29pm

Brought up from downstairs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:02:30pm

Just a reminder that we had an event where a man drove a truck through a bunch of bikers, killing 5, but nobody called for mass deportations of methed up rednecks.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:03:50pm

re: #4 Kragar

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He’s field testing the issue for Trump. I called it first earlier tonight that this would be where Trump would go; its the next logical progression.

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Frenchy  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:04:01pm

re: #11 SteelPH

Beat me to it. “Test” them how, and deport them to where fuckstick?

I’m just beyond words at this point.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:04:15pm

re: #4 Kragar

Bill Kristol has been getting slowly more sane in this age of The Donald™. That scares me. This is the same guy that made up that Project For A New American Century think tank that wanted to use our military for absolute hegemony in the world for multiple generations. And now he thinks Newt was beyond the pale on Fox News tonight?

What in the ever loving fuck, man?

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:04:59pm
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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:05:43pm

Didn’t Trump call for some kind of surveillance during a rope line question??

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:05:56pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:06:42pm

re: #11 SteelPH

Uh huh. What about Muslims that are natural-born citizens? Where exactly do you deport them to, Mr. Gingrich?

If their parents were muslim immigrants, then they were enemy combatants in hostile occupation of US soil, which means their children born here aren’t citizens and can be deported./

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:10:23pm

Facebook Post

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:11:33pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:12:14pm

And these assholes have the nerve to say they’re for small government and individual rights. Fuck Gingrich and the entire GOP.

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:12:15pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:12:19pm

Calista’s vaginal secretions must be infecting Newt with her strychnine and botox-it’s finally reached dangerous levels of craziness.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:12:41pm
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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:12:55pm

Can someone tweet at this prick in French about how National Front scum praised Breivik ?

And here’s the source

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:14:40pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:14:54pm

Hat tip to Kragar

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Tigger2  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:15:20pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:15:25pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:16:06pm

re: #30 Eric The Fruit Bat

Eww. Knowing you, though, I guess this is par for the course?

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:16:57pm

re: #5 Frankie Five Angels

We ask them because those like Newt just know for a fact that a real Muslim terrorist who wants to enter the U.S. would never lie about it. They won’t even admit that many in their own party who call themselves Christians aren’t actually Christians but pay lipservice to Christianity to win elections. I’m sick of persons like him offering simple answers to complex questions/issues. It gets on my nerves that they seem to think I’m so ignorant as to believe the mess they foul our airwaves with. Frankly, I’m more worried about right-wing terrorism/extremism here than I am about terrorist acts being committed by American Muslims or by Muslims from foreign nations, but Newt and his buddies will never admit that right-wing terrorism is a problem in America.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:19:04pm

re: #36 Tigger2

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:19:14pm

Have we gone completely insane? Is it a full moon or something?

Damn.

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:20:54pm

re: #10 electrotek

No way I’m believing any comment Newt makes about Black Americans is sincere. I’m black, and I’m from GA, so I have spent decades listening to him and until now, not once has he showed the least bit of understanding of what life in America is like for us. I think the only reason he made the recent statements is because he’s trying to help Trump increase his support among blacks. It’s not working, and it’s not going to work because we know racists and bigots when we see and hear them. Newt is a self-serving b*tch and he’s always been a self-serving b*tch.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:21:19pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:21:27pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

If it wasn’t for cheap shots, I wouldn’t have any. <snort>

She just ooozes evil with that face-that’s probably why he married her.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:22:21pm

re: #41 Jenner7

snopes.com

Specifically, the image was taken from coverage of a 2009 visit to Pakistan by Secretary of State Clinton, during which she donned a head covering while visiting the shrine of the Sufi saint Shah Abdul Latif Kazmi and the Badshahi Mosque.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:22:29pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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By “test” I assume he means have secret police pay informants to provide testimony to justify deporting muslims.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:23:05pm

re: #41 Jenner7

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MsJ  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:24:43pm

re: #37 Kragar

He seems nice. And by nice I mean a raging asshole.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:25:07pm

How many times are we going to have to show Bush bowing to (yes, I know it’s because the other guy was short) and kissing other foreign leaders over the next eight years?

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:25:16pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:25:20pm

re: #41 Jenner7

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:25:20pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:25:25pm

Note that Newt is calling to deport, not dangerous terrorists, but people based on their religion (Islam) and their political beliefs (support for sharia law). Doubly unconstitutional!

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:26:38pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:27:46pm
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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:28:45pm
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retired cynic  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:29:04pm

re: #41 Jenner7

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Have we gone completely insane? Is it a full moon or something?

Damn.

OMFG! I got off the boat….

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:29:45pm

Newt also said he’d make researching terrorist groups illegal.

Anybody who goes on a website favoring ISIS, or Al Qaeda, or other terrorist groups, that should be a felony, and they should go to jail.

Imagine being a journalist or academic researching terrorism and being afraid to do your job for fear of being arrested and charged with a felony. The chilling effect would actually hamper counter terrorism efforts as private citizens would face potential charges when calling in tips to the FBI, exposed to self incrimination when asked how they came by information openly available on the internet.

Jesus, what an idiot.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:31:00pm

re: #56 Kragar

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:33:42pm
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Tigger2  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:33:48pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:34:03pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:34:56pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:36:14pm
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Great White Snark  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:36:44pm

Before the advent of Trump the Candidate I would laughingly dismiss any suggestion the 2nd Amendment would ever be in play in my lifetime as a bulwark against governmental oppression. By governmental oppression I do not mean the EPA, taxes or OSHA.

What I mean by oppression is the threat of deportation for being Muslim. An Iranian friend was interred after 9/11 because the government had been remiss in handling his naturalization paperwork and process. They fucked up and he went to INS jail. For days. that is the second most powerful memory I have from the aftermath of 9/11. My government interred a good man because they screwed up.

Elect Hilary so I can keep laughing at the prospect. Because if we elect Trump and he tries what he says, it’s not laughter that will resound.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:37:10pm

re: #40 Belafon

Or Lican.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:37:30pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:38:11pm
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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:38:31pm

re: #66 GlutenFreeJesus

Or Lican.

Werewolves are cool.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:39:11pm

re: #69 Belafon

But hairy and drooly.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:40:25pm

re: #65 Great White Snark

Before the advent of trump the Candidate I would laughingly dismiss any suggestion the 2nd Amendment would ever be in play in my lifetime as a bulwark against governmental oppression. By governmental oppression I do not mean the EPA, taxes or OSHA.

What I mean by oppression is the threat of deportation for being Muslim. An Iranian friend was interred after 9/11 because the government had been remiss in handling his naturalization paperwork and process. They fucked up and he went to INS jail. For days. that is the second most powerful memory I have from the aftermath of 9/11. My government interred a good man because they screwed up.

Elect Hilary so I can keep laughing at the prospect. Because if we elect Trump and he tries what he says, it’s not laughter that will resound.

The 2nd amendment won’t help here either. What will help is making sure were standing with any person they try to deport, not allowing them to be taken without putting up a struggle.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:41:16pm
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Belafon  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:43:26pm

re: #72 gocart mozart

The president really isn’t. And what they want to do goes beyond “banning.” Banning is not deporting people who might be associated because of some incidental thing.

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CleverToad  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:45:06pm

OT because I’m trying to get my mind off things so I can try to sleep. Saw this a couple days ago on Facebook. Another cool first for our current Prez:

iflscience.com

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:47:38pm
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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:48:23pm

re: #67 gocart mozart

Say your peace?

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:49:49pm

Following up my fellow Coloradan CleverToad’s lead, something lighthearted yet also scary as fuck.

Facebook Post

Foundation gave way at the top terminal and a lot of the chairs fell to the ground. The top terminal in this case was not the drive station, it was the return station. The drive station was at the bottom of the lift.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:50:06pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:50:59pm

She’s a nice lady, Noor. :D

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:51:14pm

re: #75 Kragar

Um the Party of Robert Byrd and the KKK was….. spoiler…. the Democratic Party.

I’m still surprised by adults (presumably) trying to make this argument.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:53:15pm

re: #80 jaunte

I’m still surprised by adults (presumably) trying to make this argument.

Dude’s been dead for six years. And yeah, he, uh, evolved in adulthood. Maybe that’s why they keep bringing the Robert Byrd trope up, it aligns perfectly with their hostile views toward evolution.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:54:28pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

Or the fact they remain permanently stuck at the age of 16 mentally.

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Tigger2  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:55:47pm
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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:56:41pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:57:37pm

re: #84 Jenner7

I think we need some sort of military reform to our officer corps. How did this imbecile become a General?

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:58:04pm
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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:58:24pm

re: #80 jaunte

They make this argument , I think, for two reasons. First, they think time/history is static, and second, they can’t explain how the GOP morphed from a party that once believed in progress to one that currently wants to return to the past. They’re avoiding acknowledging the reason that the GOP “flipped” in the 1960s was primarily due to the passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. To acknowledge this would be to admit the reason for the change was based in racism. They expend an enormous amount of time denying the racism that has found a comfortable home in the party.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:58:52pm
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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 8:59:53pm

re: #87 majii

You’re right. And we won’t make much progress as a country until they drop the pretense.

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:01:38pm

Struck a nerve I guess

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William Lewis  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:03:51pm

re: #65 Great White Snark

Be sure to buy a copy of “The Partisan’s Companion: The Red Army’s Do-it-yourself, Nazi-bashing Guerrilla Warfare Manual”. It’s a reprint in English of the 1942 edition.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:04:18pm

re: #79 Ziggy_TARDIS

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She’s a nice lady, Noor. :D

Was Newt trying to pick her up?

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:05:36pm

re: #82 Ziggy_TARDIS

Interesting point. People I knew from primary school is a nice anecdotal study. All the hard core conservatives from childhood in my Facebook regard their days in high school as the greatest days of their lives. It’s so weird.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:05:41pm

re: #93 Joe Bacon

He is that sort of creep, isn’t he?

Definitely no though.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:06:56pm

Mick Jagger’s 29 year old gf is pregnant.

my dog

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:07:20pm
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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:07:45pm
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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:08:30pm

re: #91 Kragar

I think we’ll witness more right-wingers freakouts before the elections in November because what they’ve sown is bearing fruit, and they never, ever thought their seeds would “grow” a Trump, or that he’d become the face of the GOP. Brooks, Podhertz, Ben Shapiro, McConnell, Flynn, and others who led the party into the electoral abyss are all looking for someone else to blame besides themselves, but deep within their souls, they know they’re responsible. The mirror they’re looking for is in their own homes and offices.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:08:31pm

re: #91 Kragar

You’re just some fucking guy! Why are his panties tied in a knot? I mean, you’re just some fucking guy! That goes to comic and video game conventions!

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:09:30pm

re: #41 Jenner7

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Have we gone completely insane? Is it a full moon or something?

Damn.

I am somewhat stunned that a woman covering her head in a house of worship is considered odd. Are these people very young, or did they never go into a Catholic church?

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:09:47pm
What else would you expect a Republican to do?
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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:10:45pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

Podhoretz just wasted his “mirror you call a soul” line on Twitter instead of saving it for a book. Sad.

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:10:46pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

Kragar brings hard truths to their attention. He’s an anomaly in their world. They avoid truths about themselves like a roach avoids Raid.

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:12:34pm

re: #101 calochortus
Women in some black evangelical churches also cover their heads. I had some students who something covering their heads to school everyday.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:12:38pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

I actually had that with Tom Nichols a few weeks ago.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:12:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:13:02pm

re: #91 Kragar

Struck a nerve I guess

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Podhoretz wants to turn up his nose at the Trump crowd, but still refuses to see what he did to help bring them into existence. He’s basically a classic right wing asshole who’ll never really change.

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gocart mozart  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:13:03pm

re: #91 Kragar

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:14:13pm

re: #93 Joe Bacon

I should note that I know Noor is a nice lady because…

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:14:33pm

Speaking of bad craziness, it turns out that some Bernie supporters may have lost it and gone full moonbat. Even after Bernie himself realized he was no longer viable and gave up, some people still think a Bernie presidency post in 2017 is a real possibility.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:15:23pm

So any details about the scumbag driver?

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:15:50pm

I aint even playing around with this bullshit argument

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:16:21pm

Hmmm, I wonder if a bunch of Religious Right Republicans will crash Milo’s party next week? And will the party crashers open carry as well?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:17:23pm

re: #111 CriticalDragon1177

Speaking of bad craziness, it turns out that some Bernie supporters may have lost it and gone full moonbat. Even after Bernie himself realized he was no longer viable and gave up, some people still think a Bernie presidency post in 2017 is a real possibility.

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Ha I saw that since I actually know Pitt from my DU days. A lot of pushback but a lot of agreement too unfortunately.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:17:43pm

re: #114 Joe Bacon

Hmmm, I wonder if a bunch of Religious Right Republicans will crash Milo’s party next week? And will the party crashers open carry as well?

Is that a gun or are they just happy to see Milo!

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:18:10pm

re: #111 CriticalDragon1177

Oh Old Elm Tree is really being “rational” now.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:18:20pm

re: #113 Kragar

I aint even playing around with this bullshit argument

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Not to mention the American religious right does fund Christian groups outside the US that do kill gays.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:18:36pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Is that a gun or are they just happy to see Milo!

Something tells me it’s gonna be…TOO HARD TO TELL

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:18:54pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Not to mention the American religious right does fund Christian groups outside the US that do kill gays.

And yet that’s met with crickets by many.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:19:32pm

re: #120 electrotek

And yet that’s met with crickets by many.

Of course, remember these are the people who think that Antisemitism is something that is only done by the the left and Muslims.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:20:27pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

Of course, remember these are the people who think that Antisemitism is something that is only done by the the left and Muslims.

Even when you present them evidence of anti-Semitism practiced by the right.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:20:32pm

re: #117 CriticalDragon1177

Oh Old Elm Tree is really being “rational” now.

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Conspiracy theories are never good.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:20:50pm

re: #122 electrotek

Even when you present them evidence of anti-Semitism practiced by the right.

Of course.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:21:24pm

Old Prison Elm Planet Tree

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:22:42pm

It’s interesting watching my Facebook. I got some old friends who I really think would fit in great here at LGF since they’re reasonably minded folks who don’t take themselves too seriously. Others OTOH who meanwhile are so ideologically inflexible that they don’t care.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:23:12pm

re: #125 jaunte

Old Prison Elm Planet Tree

The same ones who propagated 9/11 conspiracy theories during Bush’s presidency years, oddly enough.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:23:46pm

NEW POLL FOR THE HORSE RACE FUCKS!!! YAY!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:24:01pm

re: #127 electrotek

The same ones who propagated 9/11 conspiracy theories during Bush’s presidency years, oddly enough.

No surprise there. It’s those types that honestly for a time embarrassed me being on the left but then I realized that they had their own problems.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:24:34pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

NEW POLL FOR THE HORSE RACE FUCKS!!! YAY!!!

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Woot.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:24:37pm

re: #111 CriticalDragon1177

re: #117 CriticalDragon1177

Now I’m a bully apparently since I’m just telling them the way it is? Seriously people grow up, or we could have Trump as our next president, or would you prefer him over Hillary?



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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:25:05pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

No surprise there. It’s those types that honestly for a time embarrassed me being on the left but then I realized that they had their own problems.

You remember the ProtestWarrior clowns from way back when?

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:25:17pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Conspiracy theories are never good.

You can say that again, especially when they start to approach Alex Jones level crazy.

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:25:42pm

re: #105 majii

Women in some black evangelical churches also cover their heads. I had some students who something covering their heads to school everyday.

Yeah, and Mennonites (usually) and Amish, some Jewish women. It’s Biblical after all.

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:26:58pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:27:07pm

The Brussels sprouts mustard slaw was a success.

I know you were all anxiously waiting for that update.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:27:09pm

re: #131 CriticalDragon1177

Now I’m a bully apparently since I’m just telling them the way it is? Seriously people grow up, or we could have Trump as our next president, or would you prefer him over Hillary?

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Bernie as you said gave up himself. I already know how and I’d add rightfully furious they’d be if Clinton ahd lost the nomination and was attempting to hijack. They have a bent of authoritanism in how they approach things. It doesn’t matter that a majority of Democrats preferred Clinton over Bernie, the only thing that matters is they want Bernie and they don’t care about the majority of Democrats who think otherwise. No one in their circle supported Clinton so ergo no one did.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:27:40pm

re: #134 calochortus

Yeah, and Mennonites (usually) and Amish, some Jewish women. It’s Biblical after all.

Slavic women love the babushka.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:28:09pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

I really wish we could find the crosstabs for more polls.

Right now, I throw Quinnipiac and Rasmussen out. Quinnipiac for awfully inaccurate demogarphics, and Rasmussen for just being sleazy.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:28:10pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Woot.

Clinton ahead of Trump by eight points in Colorado? I’ll take it. It should be in the double digits. Maybe that’ll go down in November. After all, polls are mostly bullshit.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:29:07pm

re: #134 calochortus

Yeah, and Mennonites (usually) and Amish, some Jewish women. It’s Biblical after all.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:29:28pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

Clinton ahead of Trump by eight points in Colorado? I’ll take it. It should be in the double digits. Maybe that’ll go down in November. After all, polls are mostly bullshit.

I think Colorado will be a good state for Clinton despite her caucus loss there in the primaries.

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Lancelot Link  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:30:46pm

It’s worth pointing out that the second deadliest terrorist attack ever on American soil was committed by a white, Christian, heterosexual, Republican American citizen.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:31:03pm
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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:31:11pm

re: #111 CriticalDragon1177

re: #117 CriticalDragon1177

re: #131 CriticalDragon1177

Okay, be like that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:31:45pm

re: #144 electrotek

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Fascist fuck needs to fuck off.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:32:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:32:56pm

re: #145 CriticalDragon1177

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Goddamn you’re dealing with a lunatic. I hate this part of the left, I really do and I hope they fail. It’s not even true ideological disagreement for me with them on some issues, it’s the fact that one of us operates under the constraints of political reality and the other wants an oompa loompa now.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:33:16pm

re: #145 CriticalDragon1177

Oh and “Old Elm Tree” blocked me, rather than admit that he was wrong and that Bernie can’t be our next president now.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:34:05pm

Wow fuck this piece of shit:

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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:34:06pm

re: #149 CriticalDragon1177

Oh and “Old Elm Tree” blocked me, rather than admit that he was wrong and that Bernie can’t be our next president now.

It’s probably all for the best.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:34:17pm

There’s a point where arguing with people on Twitter is really counterproductive. Save your energy to do something positive in the world.

At least that’s how I see it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:35:29pm

re: #150 electrotek

Wow fuck this piece of shit:

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Go ahead Milo keep on helping the ideology that wants you imprisoned for being gay. Fucking bigoted asshole. England can take his sorry ass back.

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:36:34pm

ICYMI, this is absolutely relevant:

Jim Jefferies — Donald Trump (2016)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:37:30pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Go ahead Milo keep on helping the ideology that wants you imprisoned DEAD for being gay. Fucking bigoted asshole. England can take his sorry ass back.

FIFY

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dangerman  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:38:03pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Goddamn you’re dealing with a lunatic. I hate this part of the left, I really do and I hope they fail. It’s not even true ideological disagreement for me with them on some issues, it’s the fact that one of us operates under the constraints of political reality and the other wants an oompa loompa now.

Political immaturity

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:38:14pm

re: #155 Eric The Fruit Bat

FIFY

True that. He’s such a fucking cretin.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:39:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:39:26pm

re: #156 dangerman

Politically immaturity

Sad thing is one could understand if it was people new to the process. A lot of these people bitching about not getting their pony and hoping on the Jill Stein train are adults who have been around the block a few times.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:39:39pm

re: #151 calochortus

It’s probably all for the best.

You’re probably right, its unlikely I would be able to get him to accept reality and realize that its down to Trump and Hillary now. Even so I’m going to hold such people at least party responsible if Trump gets in the white house come November. What makes it even more upsetting to me that another person on twitter who I follow, and who is generally polite, @WarAgainstWomen, favorited his original tweet that I responded to, and liked some of his replies to what I wrote, so I know for a fact that he’s not the only one who is this delusional. I like War Against Women and generally I support what she stands for. I hate to think that she’s sabotaging everything she’s fighting for because she won’t accept reality here.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:39:51pm
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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:40:22pm

re: #152 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There’s a point where arguing with people on Twitter is really counterproductive. Save your energy to do something positive in the world.

At least that’s how I see it.

True, but in a public forum there is always the possibility of making people in a wider audience think. The hard part is figuring out when to quit. I’ve been intermittently debating someone on another site and I think I’m to the bored/diminishing returns point. She’s very fond of Proof by Verbosity-of both the Gish Gallop and ‘the toss out hour and a half YouTube links that really never get to the point’ versions.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:40:43pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Sad thing is one could understand if it was people new to the process. A lot of these people bitching about not getting their pony and hoping on the Jill Stein train are adults who have been around the block a few times.

I would be a bit more understanding, if Bernie himself hadn’t thrown in the towel, but even than it was obvious that he was no longer viable, even before this.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:41:04pm

I am just glad I’ve had LGF to keep me sane from the crazies on both sides the past seven years.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:41:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:42:29pm

re: #163 CriticalDragon1177

I would be a bit more understanding, if Bernie himself hadn’t thrown in the towel, but even than it was obvious that he was no longer viable, even before this.

I mean when the primaries were still going on, that was one thing. If Bernie wanted to stay in until the last primary, I respected that even though I think he was bsing people by telling them they were actually winning but it’s the middle of July and Clinton clearly won the primary fair and square and that’s something that the Senator himself can concede. These people just think the whole world involves appeasing them ideologically. They act like a left wing Tea Party.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:43:51pm

re: #165 electrotek

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I wonder if shit for brains knows that there were Muslim victims in tonight’s attacks. Nah probably thinks all Muslims are in cahoots. He’s the kind of fucker that was okay with Islamists when we had them as enemy of my enemy against the Soviets.

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dangerman  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:43:54pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Sad thing is one could understand if it was people new to the process. A lot of these people bitching about not getting their pony and hoping on the Jill Stein train are adults who have been around the block a few times.

They didn’t pay attention in class and wasted all that e experience

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:44:49pm

re: #168 dangerman

They didn’t pay attention in class and wasted all that e experience

For me, the 2004 election was a great learning experience as well as a great disappointment.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:45:18pm
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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:46:36pm
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dangerman  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:46:36pm

Some of us learn grow and evolve. Others not so much

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:47:21pm

re: #171 electrotek

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No true conservative Scotmen.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:47:33pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:47:54pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

I have seen a lot of that from anti-Muslim Bigots.

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Jenner7  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:48:35pm

Posted this this morning, but rings even more true tonight. I’m talking to you NEWT and PETER KING.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:48:47pm

re: #172 dangerman

Some of us learn grow and evolve. Others not so much

Time to Evolve

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:49:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:49:09pm

re: #175 Ziggy_TARDIS

I have seen a lot of that from Muslim Bigots.

I have too and it’s fucking sick.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:49:24pm
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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:50:01pm

re: #149 CriticalDragon1177

You know what, after I’m done writing the piece that I’m currently writing, maybe I should do something with Old Elm Tree and talk about the dangers of wishful thinking. I should snip his tweets in case he deletes them.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:50:40pm

re: #165 electrotek

“You look like the kind of person who would drive a truck into a crowd of people”

sandiegouniontribune.com

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:50:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:51:45pm

re: #182 jaunte

“You look like the kind of person who would drive a truck into a crowd of people”

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sandiegouniontribune.com

He could be Bosnian. //

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:53:43pm
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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:54:51pm

re: #163 CriticalDragon1177

I think that Sen. Sanders did himself and the Democratic Party a disservice when he misled his supporters by claiming that the party that allowed him to run in its primary had repeatedly done him wrong. He knew better, but his pride would not permit him to tell them the truth which was that more Democrats preferred HRC over him. He appeared to me to live in an alternate reality in which he thought that black and white Democrats and poor white GOPers would automatically support him in the Democratic primaries and caucuses because he was Sen. Bernie Sanders and only he could stand up to the abuses of Wall St. As a black person in America, what offended me and turned me off to consider voting for him was when he criticized the president’s leadership abilities while ignoring the fact that GOPers in Congress had decided not to work with him on the day he was inaugurated. He also refused to acknowledge that he and the Democrats in Congress allowed the GOPers to bully them into turning their backs on key parts of the president’s agenda.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:55:08pm

The wingnuts sure like to spread this lie about Breivik’s victims:

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:55:15pm

“The mainstream media outlets allow this utter crap to slide by unchallenged and, by doing so, legitimize falsehoods that could get people killed,” the former Black Flag lead singer said in response. “Ratings-based, 24/7, for-profit media is the complete death of true journalism and a catapult for propaganda.”

But in contrast to Giuliani’s rhetoric, Rollins also addressed white privilege in his column, saying that if white Americans “would immediately and collectively lose their minds” if they had to deal with even a fraction of the experiences black Americans go through in connection with the justice system.

“I’m an educated, Caucasian, heterosexual male. Does this ensure I will have success and live the American Dream? Obviously it doesn’t,” he wrote. “But it damn sure drops me on second base with a great opportunity to steal third.”

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:56:21pm
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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:57:19pm
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retired cynic  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:57:26pm

re: #189 Kragar

Just another moderate conservative….

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:57:43pm

re: #189 Kragar

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Yeah Britain you can’t laugh at us for a while now.

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dangerman  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:59:00pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Yeah Britain you can’t laugh at us for a while now.

They do / did write some of the best comedy. Could this be ….nah

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:59:40pm
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calochortus  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:59:50pm

Off to bed. I’d like to think tomorrow will be a better day, but I’m beginning to doubt it.
Hasta mañana, all.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 9:59:50pm

re: #193 dangerman

They do / did write some of the best comedy. Could this be ….nah

Oh? Theresa May is Sacha Baron Cohen? I would have thought Boris Johnson.

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electrotek  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:00:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:00:28pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

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Exactly. Hypocrites.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:03:12pm

re: #149 CriticalDragon1177

re: #151 calochortus

Actually I apologize. I appear to have made a mistake. It looks like Old Elm Tree didn’t block me now. Either that or he unblocked me, since I now see his tweets in again in my notices and when I click on the tweets where I replied to him. For a moment there I wasn’t seeing them. Either way through I’m not going to waste any more time debating him. If he’s determined not to accept reality no matter what, I’m not going to be able to talk him out of it, especially after he insists Bernie never concede, when even Bernie said he did, and is now openly endorsing Hillary.

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dangerman  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:03:17pm

Im out
Gotta do dangerous stuff

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:07:20pm

Creatures of the Night!

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:07:49pm

re: #200 dangerman

Z+rPL0QxFd+lW37SEhqe4TiRa2+Sk43Lowe6YyuQ3Lo=

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TedStriker  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:08:18pm

re: #201 jaunte

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Creatures of the Night!

Damn, put that behind a spoiler tag…that’s nightmare fuel!

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:09:50pm

re: #201 jaunte

And I thought shoo-ing off the racoons at my twenty was exciting. That little fucker is weird, man!

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:10:11pm

re: #204 teleskiguy

I armed myself with a fearsome hoe.

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palomino  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:10:40pm

Man, Newt must really want the job. Maybe he thinks Donald will change his mind over the weekend if he says some really crazy shit.

As for support of sharia law, we’re now getting into the territory of thought crime. As long as you’re not imposing it on someone else, you’ve got as much right to believe in sharia as Santa Claus. Of course we should not encourage sharia, but the freedoms of speech and religion require that we allow people to believe in it and even express that belief.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:12:01pm

Jimmy Dore gives Little Luke Russert the sendoff he deserves!

Luke Russert Moves On To Bigger And Better Nepotism - Will He Be Okay?

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:19:02pm

re: #186 majii

I think that Sen. Sanders did himself and the Democratic Party a disservice when he misled his supporters by claiming that the party that allowed him to run in its primary had repeatedly done him wrong. He knew better, but his pride would not permit him to tell them the truth which was that more Democrats preferred HRC over him. He appeared to me to live in an alternate reality in which he thought that black and white Democrats and poor white GOPers would automatically support him in the Democratic primaries and caucuses because he was Sen. Bernie Sanders and only he could stand up to the abuses of Wall St. As a black person in America, what offended me and turned me off to consider voting for him was when he criticized the president’s leadership abilities while ignoring the fact that GOPers in Congress had decided not to work with him on the day he was inaugurated. He also refused to acknowledge that he and the Democrats in Congress allowed the GOPers to bully them into turning their backs on key parts of the president’s agenda.

Even if it turns out that there is anything to the stories about the Democratic establishment doing him wrong, at this point it makes no sense to try to get him into the white house come the next election, since he, himself realizes that its a futile cause now is only going to increase the chances of a Trump presidency. The biggest problem now is with his fanatical supporters who want him to be president so much and can’t bring themselves to accept reality, to the point where they keep fighting for him, even after he has given up. Now that some of the Bernie Or Bust fanatics are embracing outlandish conspiracy theories and refuse to accept the fact that Bernie has conceded and is endorsing Hillary, how long until some of them go full Tin foil hat and say that Hillary kidnapped him, and replaced him with a robot or something?

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:20:02pm

re: #207 Joe Bacon

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retired cynic  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:20:48pm

re: #209 Kragar

Snork/

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majii  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:21:29pm

re: #207 Joe Bacon

“Now that some of the Bernie Or Bust fanatics are embracing outlandish conspiracy theories and refuse to accept the fact that Bernie has conceded and is endorsing Hillary, how long until some of them go full Tin foil hat and say that Hillary kidnapped him, and replaced him with a robot or something?”

Based on what I’m seeing from some of the diehard Berners, it won’t be too long before they say something like this.

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William Lewis  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:22:24pm

re: #209 Kragar

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Be fun for him to try his hand at something he’s never done before.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:23:22pm

re: #201 jaunte

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Creatures of the Night!

There is some resemblance to a Thanksgiving Turkey there but I just can’t put my finger on it…..

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:29:34pm

re: #44 Eric The Fruit Bat

If it wasn’t for cheap shots, I wouldn’t have any. <snort>

She just ooozes evil with that face-that’s probably why he married her.

Johnson Checks Out the 2012 Republican candidates (December 8, 2011):

“With the cain train derailed and burning up chlorine gas in a school zone and frigging Perry drunk and high and gay at all times it is pretty much down to Mitch Ronalds who I hate and this bitch Newt Grinch who looks like a big fat lesbian phil donahue. He seems really smart but he smells like pepperoni all the time and constantly talks about alternate history scenarios.

Bitch if I wanted to know what would have happened if the Chinese discovered America I would have asked.

I have to follow him around and get stared at like a baby mouse being looked at by a scorpion by his wife Callistus. I’m just waiting for her to spray me with some perfume and I start melting and then she can siphon me up through her hidden feeding nozzle thing while her husband tells me about what if the Apache discovered submarines.”

somethingawful.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:30:10pm

Stupid psychopath. What a horrible needless tragedy. Just awful.

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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:33:27pm
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Lidane  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:35:07pm
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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:43:55pm

Just because I love this:

Whatever Bitch Cake with Fuck Off Frosting
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:44:27pm

Just noticed that Steam has Transistor on sale at 80% off. An absolutely gorgeous game, beautiful design, artwork, setting and music. There isn’t a ton of replay value but for $4 ($6 if you want the soundtrack too) it’s a steal.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:47:15pm

Speaking of paranoia, OMG guys this is not the onion!


Yes Pokemon are “digital demons.” Oh and how are terrorists going to use Pokemon go to track down and kill Christians, or anyone for that matter? The program isn’t designed to track down people, its designed to track down monsters who aren’t even real, so they’re probably even randomly generated when people are nearby. The technology isn’t designed to find anyone.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:50:24pm

re: #220 CriticalDragon1177

Someone needs to be sent to the Funny Farm.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 14, 2016 • 10:53:06pm

re: #221 Ziggy_TARDIS

I don’t know, those Pokemon sure are deadly, except for the fact that you know, they’re not real. ;)

3 Pokémon Who Could Kill You

This Pokémon Will Kill You!

Pikachu Will Kill You!

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Kragar  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:06:12pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:10:08pm

The state just killed another human.

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Scout  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:32:53pm

I don’t know why, but I have a strong urge right now to listen to George Harrison’s “My Sweet Lord,” and I’m not even remotely a religious person.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 14, 2016 • 11:45:58pm

This is from last month, but I just now saw it in my FB feed. A lonely, abandoned satellite calls for help 46 years after it was launched.

thevintagenews.com

There was some kind of malfunction when LES-1 was launched, and it never reached its intended orbit. Plus, it’s tumbling end over end. But when sunlight falls on its solar panels it sends out a signal at 237 MHz about every four seconds. A ham radio operator picked it up by chance and recorded the signal to share on YouTube.

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Anymouse  Jul 15, 2016 • 12:11:41am

re: #42 majii

No way I’m believing any comment Newt makes about Black Americans is sincere. I’m black, and I’m from GA, so I have spent decades listening to him and until now, not once has he showed the least bit of understanding of what life in America is like for us. I think the only reason he made the recent statements is because he’s trying to help Trump increase his support among blacks. It’s not working, and it’s not going to work because we know racists and bigots when we see and hear them. Newt is a self-serving b*tch and he’s always been a self-serving b*tch.

I can’t claim to understand all the crap African-Americans have to put up with from police, citizens, and the government, though I can empathise.

I have had a small but significant example of this where I am now. I am currently in The Pas, Manitoba. The overwhelming majority of people here are members of the Cree Nation. Because of the car I drive (a Smart) with Nebraska plates, my wife and I are getting instant attention from the RCMP (they turn around and follow us around, &c).

A lot of it is simply curiosity, but there is a fair share of distrust because of who we are and where we are from.

Fortunately, I am in Canada, where people don’t shoot first and ask questions later. If I had to live under a microscope every day I am not sure how I would respond; I know that (other than the RCMP) no one looks at me as a derelict or a criminal, just a curiosity (itself sort of disconcerting). I also know this will end when I return to the USA (assuming the GOP convention doesn’t explode into a nationwide derpsplosion, in which case we will ask for political asylum).

Continuing north, we drove across the 54th parallel and went to Flin Flon, where we were a decided curiosity; nearly everyone we met wanted to know why we were in their town (answer, to tour the area).

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 15, 2016 • 12:26:34am
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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 12:39:46am
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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 15, 2016 • 12:42:22am

Yesterday:
This restaurant told cops they’re no longer welcome

The sheriff of a county about 70 miles north of Seattle says a restaurant owner has asked that law enforcement no longer dine there.

Skagit County Sheriff Will Reichardt said on Facebook that after four deputies finished lunch at Lucky’s Teriyaki in Sedro-Woolley Thursday, the owner asked them not to eat there anymore.

Reichardt says the deputies were told that customers didn’t like law enforcement there.

A few hours later:
Restaurant owner says it’s all a misunderstanding, cops can eat at his place — and for free Monday

The owner of the Lucky Teriyaki broke down in tears Thursday night and said cops are welcome at his restaurant — will even get free meals on Monday — after a public backlash to a report by the Skagit County sheriff said the man had told deputies that law enforcement officers were no longer welcome at his establishment.

The man’s son said in a heavy accent that it had all been a misunderstanding and he apologized for the incident.

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2016 • 12:44:23am

re: #228 Ace-o-aces

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Or perhaps the Amish?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 12:47:37am

“What if the tactical mistake we made in Iraq was that we didn’t kill enough Sunnis in the early going to intimidate them and make them so afraid of us they would go along with anything? Wasn’t the survival of Sunni men between the ages of 15 and 35 the reason there was an insurgency and the basic cause of the sectarian violence now?” -John Podhoretz, 2006

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 15, 2016 • 12:53:00am
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 15, 2016 • 12:56:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:08:18am

re: #234 Ace-o-aces

“Sharia” is already banned in the USA. By the First Amendment.

Newt knows that, he is just using it to stir up controversy. He knows it is a serious buzzword for the Right Wing, to them it conjures up images of beheadings, stonings and women forced to wear veils.

There are instances (in England) where Sharia judges are allowed to preside over civil cases (divorce and property settlements) if both sides agree to it and the ruling is compatible with local law.

But there are people who insist that Sharia is taking over Europe…

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:11:45am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are instances (in England) where Sharia judges are allowed to preside over civil cases (divorce and property settlements) if both sides agree to it and the ruling is compatible with local law.

We have that in the US too. It’s called binding arbitration. There are Jewish “courts” as well used by some religious Jews to settle disputes.

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:12:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:12:18am

re: #236 Ace-o-aces

We have that in the US too. It’s called binding arbitration. There are Jewish “courts” as well used by some religious Jews to settle disputes.

Kosheria!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:26:21am

re: #37 Kragar

Wow. That’s the first time I’ve seen an attack on a Jewish person with a “go back to Israel”. So used to Black people being told to go back to Africa.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:27:07am

re: #239 Patricia Kayden

Wow. That’s the first time I’ve seen an attack on a Jewish person with a “go back to Israel”. So used to Black people being told to go back to Africa.

Funny, that what they were trying to do for over 900 years…

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:27:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:29:34am

The GOP is trying again to frame the “clash of civilizations” as Christianity vs Islam when the true struggle is between Enlightenment and Fundamentalism

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:30:12am

What a thing to wake up to here in Europe. Another terrorist atrocity.

French authorities have launched an investigation, of course, and the state of emergency, which was slated to be lifted on July 26th, has been extended for another 90 days. Apparently, police are now searching the home of the perpetrator who was, by all accounts, a petty criminal “known to the authorities”.

As the Czechs say, “Ach jo”; the closest equivalent to that one would be “Oy vey”.

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:37:00am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:39:46am

re: #244 Kragar

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I said before that the RWNJ’s usage of the word “cuck” as a slur had IMAX level of projection to it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:46:07am

I am reminded of the assertion that people who have no control over their own urges need a very tight moral corset to keep them in line: without it, they really would spend all their time out whoring, gambling, drinking and fighting.

Others of us do not stand on that same slippery slope and are able to go out occasionally and blow off a bit of steam without falling into a pit of moral depravity.

It also explains why Arkansas, which is the very buckle of the Bible Belt, is also the state that gave up Bill Clinton…

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Alyosha  Jul 15, 2016 • 1:59:23am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:09:13am

re: #247 Alyosha

Sometimes feels like a strong correlation between WWII passing from living memory, and autocracy seemingly getting more popular.

we had authoritarianism all over the world, it was certainly popular in Eastern Europe, Africa, Asia and South America, but yeah, for some reason it seems to be gaining favor in what used to be the Enlightened West

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Alyosha  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:11:07am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we had authoritarianism all over the world, it was certainly popular in Eastern Europe, Africa, Asia and South America, but yeah, for some reason it seems to be gaining favor in what used to be the Enlightened West

“Look at where liberty and reason have got us!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:13:39am

re: #249 Alyosha

“Look at where liberty and reason have got us!!”

all useless without an educated populace, and we are starting to see what happens when we fail to educate our people in history, civics and basic logic and rhetoric.

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:18:45am

Ironically, it was in right wing sf that I first started seeing this love autocratic society - especially monarchy. See Jerry Pournell for lots of examples.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:20:21am

re: #251 William Lewis

Ironically, it was in right wing sf that I first started seeing this love autocratic society - especially monarchy. See Jerry Pournell for lots of examples.

Starship Troopers

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:24:11am

Oregon man shouted racial slurs, told resident that black people ‘get hung in these parts’

An Oregon man toting a Confederate Flag drove to a biracial man’s house late at night and told him black people “get hung in these parts,” police said.

Rodney Blomberg, 45, attached the flag to a Polaris off-road vehicle and showed up as part of a group of four men in two cars in a suburban area outside Eugene, according to charging documents obtained last week by The Register-Guard.


Aryan superman Rodney Blomberg.
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:24:36am

re: #251 William Lewis

Ironically, it was in right wing sf that I first started seeing this love autocratic society - especially monarchy. See Jerry Pournell for lots of examples.

Fantasy is heavily into monarchies, feudalism and the like, too.

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:24:36am
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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:25:03am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Movie more so than the book. Remember in the book, the Federal Service covered all sort of non-military options, and while you had to be a veteran to serve politically, you still had civilian control of the government.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:25:40am

re: #244 Kragar

Since I write the stuff I study it as well. It helps to understand your market.

But the whole ‘cuckoldry’ thing is like “WTF?”

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:27:44am

re: #253 Shiplord Kirel

Oregon man shouted racial slurs, told resident that black people ‘get hung in these parts’

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Aryan superman Rodney Blomberg.

HERITAGE NOT HATE!1!!

And we all know the valiant efforts of the state of Oregon as part of the Confederacy during the Civil War.

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:28:23am

re: #257 Romantic Heretic

Since I write the stuff I study it as well. It helps to understand your market.

But the whole ‘cuckoldry’ thing is like “WTF?”

What consenting adults choose to do in their own time, thats up to them.

Except foot fetishes, those guys are freaks.
/

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:29:33am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Arguable. Heinlien had a habit of throwing up a society and exploring the consequences without regard to his belief in it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:30:11am

re: #253 Shiplord Kirel

Another fine example of the master race. /

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:30:49am

re: #247 Alyosha

It also correlates, in my opinion, with the divisions growing in America.

In WWII, people from all over the country fought and worked besides one another. So they stopped, for the most part, regarding people from other parts of the country as ‘others’.

It’s my belief things like the Civil Rights Act etc. succeeded when they did because, for a while most people were Americans.

Now they’re back to being Yankees, Southerners, Angelenos, etc. With the expected consequences.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:32:35am

re: #251 William Lewis

Ironically, it was in right wing sf that I first started seeing this love autocratic society - especially monarchy. See Jerry Pournell for lots of examples.

The society of Mote Prime should have been a Utopia for Niven and Pournelle—wonder why they portrayed it as something to be feared?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:33:04am

re: #260 William Lewis

Arguable. Heinlien had a habit of throwing up a society and exploring the consequences without regard to his belief in it.

RAH liked to explore future social history in many of his books and stories. Line marriages on the lunar penal colony, Fair Witnesses in Stranger in a Strange Land, etc. he wasn’t just about hard science.

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Ming5000  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:33:49am

re: #199 CriticalDragon1177

I agree with your earlier comment where you said even though you may not get through to Elm you might help others.
Also, your answers to Elm are so reasoned, level, and fact based that I think you have a shot at even helping Elm over their crisis.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:34:58am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Starship Troopers

Um, no. Unless you’re talking about the movie.

The book was positing about how to improve democracy. One of the important things was a mandatory civics class in school.

Most important was that people had to earn the right to vote or hold public office. Unfortunately thanks to the title people think that meant serving in the military. It did not. It was ‘Federal Service’ and your obligation could be fulfilled by cleaning floors in a spaceport.

What it proved was that the potential citizen regarded their nation as important enough to spend at least two years of their lives in service to it.

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:40:47am

re: #266 Romantic Heretic

Yup. Main character’s best friend ended up as a researcher on science station, while he was worried he might end up digging tunnels on an airless rock somewhere.

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:43:47am

re: #266 Romantic Heretic

Also, they noted how all the screening and testing were not meant to disbar anyone from service, but to find out that they were capable of doing. One of the screeners noted that if a deaf, blind quadriplegic came in and requested to enlist, they were obligated to find him a position so he could serve.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:48:29am

re: #256 Kragar

Movie more so than the book. Remember in the book, the Federal Service covered all sort of non-military options, and while you had to be a veteran to serve politically, you still had civilian control of the government.

The movie had almost nothing to so with the book…

and also recall in the novel that the military did not seize power in a coup, it was simply the only sort of order that remained after world governments collapsed at the end of WW3…they then went on to expand membership to anyone who demonstrated that they were willing to put the common good above personal interests.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:49:52am

re: #268 Kragar

Also, they noted how all the screening and testing were not meant to disbar anyone from service, but to find out that they were capable of doing. One of the screeners noted that if a deaf, blind quadriplegic came in and requested to enlist, they were obligated to find him a position so he could serve.

That movie must have been an absolute stinker. I could tell just from the commercials that it had absolutely nothing to do with the book, so I never watched it, but it seems to have soiled Heinlein’s reputation permanently.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:51:26am

re: #270 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That movie must have been an absolute stinker. I could tell just from the commercials that it had absolutely nothing to do with the book, so I never watched it, but it seems to have soiled Heinlein’s reputation permanently.

I spent a lot of time imagining those cool powered Mobile Infantry suits and how they would look in a movie…they were totally ignored, as was the notion that they needed only a handful of troopers to occupy neutralize an entire planet, not boatloads of marines…

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:52:13am

re: #270 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As a stand alone B sci-fi movie, it was mildly entertaining.

As an adaption of the book, it was utter shite.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:53:53am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I spent a lot of time imagining those cool powered Mobile Infantry suits and how they would look in a movie…they were totally ignored, as was the notion that they needed only a handful of troopers to neutralize an entire planet, not boatloads of marines…

Yeah, I see cuts from the movie, and it looks like they’re fighting like Braveheart. You’d think the powered armor would be a huge point of interest for movie makers…but nothing.

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:55:50am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mobile infantry in the book: “we’ll insert via orbital torpedo barrage, while nuking enemy targets, while our 30 man unit lays waste to an area 30 miles wide and 500 miles long before we make a precision extraction via shuttle and escape before the enemy can react.”

Mobile Infantry in the movie: “Why do we need anything resembling infantry tactics when we can just gagglefuck along in a disorganized mob towards the enemy?”

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Kragar  Jul 15, 2016 • 2:57:39am

re: #273 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We do have this from the late 80s, early 90s which is actually a far more accurate adaption

Starship Troopers Anime (English) Part 1 of 6

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 15, 2016 • 3:01:06am

re: #274 Kragar

Mobile infantry in the book: “we’ll insert via orbital torpedo barrage, while nuking enemy targets, while our 30 man unit lays waste to an area 30 miles wide and 500 miles long before we make a precision extraction via shuttle and escape before the enemy can react.”

Mobile Infantry in the movie: “Why do we need anything resembling infantry tactics when we can just gagglefuck along in a disorganized mob towards the enemy?”

One thing from the book that you couldn’t reproduce in the movie: It’s 1959, remember—the reader’s going along with a mild frisson of “How enlightened am I?” following the adventures of a hero with a Spanish name. Then on literally the last page, we learn he’s a Filipino.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 3:04:40am

re: #276 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One thing from the book that you couldn’t reproduce in the movie: It’s 1959, remember—the reader’s going along with a mild frisson of “How enlightened am I?” following the adventures of a hero with a Spanish name. Then on literally the last page, we learn he’s a Filipino.

In the movie, he and his crush are Argentines from Buenos Aires.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 15, 2016 • 3:08:17am

re: #277 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In the movie, he and his crush are Argentines from Buenos Aires.

I guess that’s a nod to the fact that in the book, the Arachnids get a missile through, obliterating Buenos Aires, and initiating the war.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2016 • 3:17:46am

re: #231 William Lewis

Or perhaps the Amish?

Or Anglicans

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2016 • 3:22:40am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP is trying again to frame the “clash of civilizations” as Christianity vs Islam when the true struggle is between Enlightenment and Fundamentalism

The true struggle is between decent people and shitheads.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 3:25:09am

re: #272 Kragar

As a stand alone B sci-fi movie, it was mildly entertaining.

As an adaption of the book, it was utter shite.

The director or one of the producers admitted that he couldn’t get through the first chapter of the book.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 15, 2016 • 3:31:06am

So I guess Golden Yam sez he would ask for a Declaration of War against “someone” last nite on O’Lolly. That says alot about what to expect in the future. Would he reinstate the draft as well?

If he were to be elected the buyers remorse and butthurt 2 months in would be so great and the collective howl so loud we’d end up with a Pence….

Fuck

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 3:33:34am

re: #281 Timothy Watson

The director or one of the producers admitted that he couldn’t get through the first chapter of the book.

It was the director, Paul Verhoeven. From Wikipedia:

The movie started life as a script called Bug Hunt at Outpost Nine.[3] When similarities, especially the “bugs,” were pointed out between this and the novel Starship Troopers, plans were made to license the rights to the book and tweak character names and circumstances to match. Verhoeven had never read the book, and attempted to read it for the film, but it made him “bored and depressed”, so he read only a few chapters:

I stopped after two chapters because it was so boring,…It is really quite a bad book. I asked Ed Neumeier to tell me the story because I just couldn’t read the thing. It’s a very right-wing book.[6]

en.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 3:56:19am

re: #283 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It was the director, Paul Verhoeven. From Wikipedia:

Verhoeven had never read the book, and attempted to read it for the film, but it made him “bored and depressed”, so he read only a few chapters:

I stopped after two chapters because it was so boring,…It is really quite a bad book. I asked Ed Neumeier to tell me the story because I just couldn’t read the thing. It’s a very right-wing book.

David Lynch had also never read “Dune” before making the movie…which is why, aside from a few scenes, it totally misses the point: again, we are dealing with an alternative post-world war future human history in which all technology that replaces humans is banned. There are no computers, no genetic engineering.

Hence the need for “spice”: so that starship navigators can see into the future and plot a safe course through space, and the reason for the Bene Gesserit multi-generation human breeding program and of course, the mentats, the trained “human computers”

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:12:35am

re: #283 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

*Rolls eyes really hard*

I’m about as left wing as you can get without being an actual Marxist, and Starship Troopers is still one of my favourite books.

One lesson I carried from it is that authority and responsibility were linked and equal concepts. Something you could never get the modern GOP to comprehend.

What? My fault? Inconceivable! We just haven’t fucked enough people tried hard enough yet.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:15:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:16:18am

re: #285 Romantic Heretic

*Rolls eyes really hard*

I’m about as left wing as you can get without being an actual Marxist, and Starship Troopers is still one of my favourite books.

One lesson I carried from it is that authority and responsibility were linked and equal concepts. Something you could never get the modern GOP to comprehend.

What? My fault? Inconceivable! We just haven’t fucked enough people tried hard enough yet.

exactly, it is a novel, not a political manifesto. And I really did appreciate the notion that before we entrust people with our safety and well-being, they should first demonstrate that they are willing to put the common good above their own personal safety and well-being.

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:18:43am

UC just put up a video that may be of interest to some here:

In his new book, Anatomy of Malice: The Enigma of the Nazi War Criminals, author Joel Dimsdale draws on decades of experience as a psychiatrist and the dramatic advances within psychiatry, psychology and neuroscience since the Nuremberg Trials to take a fresh look at four Nazi war criminals: Robert Ley, Hermann Goring, Julius Streicher and Rudolf Hess. Dimsdale, an emeritus professor of psychiatry at UC San Diego, is presented by the UC San Diego Library.

Anatomy of Malice: The Enigma of the Nazi War Criminals with Joel Dimsdale

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:21:16am

re: #80 jaunte

I’m still surprised by adults (presumably) trying to make this argument.

Remember, Rand Paul was surprised that an auditorium of African-American students at Howard University knew that the founders of the NAACP were Republicans.

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dharmamark  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:21:34am

re: #94 teleskiguy

I’ve noticed some of that too. Not exclusively the conservatives, but a large majority. The past is comfort, the present hard, and the future scary…

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Ming5000  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:21:39am

re: #288 freetoken

Wow! That JUST went up. Good catch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:28:14am

re: #81 teleskiguy

Dude’s been dead for six years. And yeah, he, uh, evolved in adulthood. Maybe that’s why they keep bringing the Robert Byrd trope up, it aligns perfectly with their hostile views toward evolution.

It is a fixed talking point and it works fine on people who have no sense of history or politics.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:30:14am

re: #96 Stanley Sea

Mick Jagger’s 29 year old gf is pregnant.

my dog

Lookin’ at Keith, here.

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:30:38am

re: #291 Ming5000

Always watchful.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:30:52am

re: #128 teleskiguy

NEW POLL FOR THE HORSE RACE FUCKS!!! YAY!!!

CO: Clinton 43, Trump 35
FL: Clinton 44, Trump 37
NC: Clinton 44, Trump 38
VA: Clinton 44, Trump 35

The “horse race” will consist of making a big news item out of every time Trump edges up by a few tenths of a percentage point…”If he keeps up this momentum, he could overtake Hillary by May of 2019!”

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:30:57am

Sort of like the Eye of Barad-dûr.

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:31:12am

sort of, anyway…

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 4:54:49am

re: #10 electrotek

And this is the same guy that said this last week:

[Embedded content]

Newt’s schtick last week had an evil subtext too.

Normal white Americans. As somehow everyone else isn’t.

The GOP has thoroughly gone off the rails, and this primary season has been the devolution/exposure that everyone needed to see. The GOP has been cultivating this kind of institutional rot for generations, and now it’s at the top of the ticket.

Bigotry?
Hate?
Ignoring the Constitution (4A, 1A, General Welfare Clause, advice and consent, etc.) but putting the 2A above all else?

Check. Check, and Check.

This is a party that refuses to address its own problems, and instead wants to destroy the safety net, slash and burn the government, and give the rich tax cuts that push the burden on to everyone else in service cuts or massively grow the debt.

Hell to the bells no. Just no.

It has to stop. And it’s up to us to make sure that this does stop. The GOP wont stop it.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:04:41am

re: #282 Dave In Austin

Trump thinks he can just declare war, and not identify the who/what/where/how?

Then again, most of his supporters don’t care about any of that either, so they just think we should launch the bombers and let the hellfire rain down.

Mind you, the US has been dropping ordnance on IS for years, even without the AUMF. We’ve been coordinating with the EU, and France in particular since Syria and Lebanon is in their wheelhouse (they were the former colonial power there). IS keeps getting pushed off the territory they claimed, and have been losing ground to the coalition forces across Iraq and Syria.

Assad benefits from this, but that’s seen as the lesser evil at this point, even if Assad’s a democidal war criminal who’s killed hundreds of thousands of his citizens to put down the uprising against him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:12:57am

re: #299 lawhawk

Reminder: potus requested speaker ryan and rest of Congress provide him with AUMF against IS in the 2015 SOTU. He’s still waiting.

That is not the point. He has not uttered the words “Islamic Terror” and declared war!!! President Trump would do that in an instant!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:18:43am

A chilling graphic

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unproven innocence  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:19:34am

It is probably enough to get me in trouble with the anti-sharia crowd, or with anti-terrorism AI dependent on badly flawed spell-check/autocorrect, but I’ll take my chances. I remain a fan of Sara Shahi:

Person of Interest - 5x13 - Root’s Message to Shaw

Best of Sameen Shaw || Funk soul brother

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ChuckJager95  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:20:47am

from waaaay up top:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:24:32am

re: #5 Frankie Five Angels

So how do we “test” them?

Because shutup.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:24:55am

re: #298 lawhawk

Newt’s schtick last week had an evil subtext too.

Normal white Americans. As somehow everyone else isn’t.

The GOP has thoroughly gone off the rails, and this primary season has been the devolution/exposure that everyone needed to see. The GOP has been cultivating this kind of institutional rot for generations, and now it’s at the top of the ticket.

Bigotry?
Hate?
Ignoring the Constitution (4A, 1A, General Welfare Clause, advice and consent, etc.) but putting the 2A above all else?

Check. Check, and Check.

This is a party that refuses to address its own problems, and instead wants to destroy the safety net, slash and burn the government, and give the rich tax cuts that push the burden on to everyone else in service cuts or massively grow the debt.

Hell to the bells no. Just no.

It has to stop. And it’s up to us to make sure that this does stop. The GOP wont stop it.

I’m wondering how much pushback Trump and Newt’s statements will get today - or if the media will just dismiss it as ‘There go those wacky Republicans again, talking crazy talk.’

In a sane world, these statements would be an automatic DQ from executive office at any level. But I’m pretty sure we don’t qualify for ‘sane world’ status any more.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:25:36am

This rapper has the Secret Service on his tail thanks to Malia Obama.

Last year, Brooklyn rapper Joey Bada$$, a member of the New York hip-hop collective Pro Era, experienced an overnight surge of government-level interest when a picture of Malia Obama wearing a Pro Era T-shirt began circulating online. A mutual friend of Barack Obama’s older daughter and the collective had apparently leaked the picture, and Joey (real name Jo-Vaughn Virginie Scott) realized that he had become a person of interest to the president’s men. On the plus side, he got some gardening done for free.

“There was a tree outside my door that shaded my whole house,” he tells The Post. “It had been there for years. But when that s-t with Malia went down, the tree was gone,” he says with a laugh. “The timing was too suspicious. I guess they [had] to get clearer pictures!” He also claims that his phones have been tapped ever since, but remarkably, he doesn’t seem overly concerned about Big Brother watching. “It’s all good. I’m only doing positive things!”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:25:38am

re: #11 SteelPH

Uh huh. What about Muslims that are natural-born citizens? Where exactly do you deport them to, Mr. Gingrich?

Gitmo, of course.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:26:01am

re: #304 Sir John Barron

So how do we “test” them?

Just as the Constitution tells us….NOT AT ALL!!!

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:27:08am

Stripping individuals of a particular religion of their citizenship under the guise of “security of the state”. Where have we seen this playbook before?

Oh. I remember now.

Next step, banning Muslims from mixed marriages?
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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:27:39am

re: #20 Frenchy

Beat me to it. “Test” them how, and deport them to where fuckstick?

I’m just beyond words at this point.

And who exactly is supposed to carryout this mass “testing”?

And would those subject to such “testing” be warranted in defending themselves, 2nd Amendment style, against such government tyranny? After all, that’s why he have the 2nd Amendment, right?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:28:03am

re: #285 Romantic Heretic

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

exactly, it is a novel, not a political manifesto. And I really did appreciate the notion that before we entrust people with our safety and well-being, they should first demonstrate that they are willing to put the common good above their own personal safety and well-being.

There are a few authors (Ayn Rand, for one) who write novels to illustrate their personal philosophy. Others explore alternate ways of life, or make us think. Most write stories that are meant to entertain. RAH was in the second and third categories, though it could be argued his political views were very cynical.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:29:14am

re: #311 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There are a few authors (Ayn Rand, for one) who write novels to illustrate their personal philosophy. Others explore alternate ways of life, or make us think. Most write stories that are meant to entertain. RAH was in the second and third categories, though it could be argued his political views were very cynical.

He was a an ex-military, and one could also see him carrying on the old argument between those serving on the merchant marine and active duty sailors in the Battle of the Atlantic.

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:29:24am

WaPo and HuffPo apparently believe it is news that a religious right winger is in denial of reality:

Mike Pence Apparently Doesn’t Believe In Evolution

Watch Mike Pence question global warming and demur on evolution

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:30:24am

re: #302 unproven innocence

It is probably enough to get me in trouble with the anti-sharia crowd, or with anti-terrorism AI dependent on badly flawed spell-check/autocorrect, but I’ll take my chances. I remain a fan of Sara Shahi:

[Embedded content]

Shaw/Shahi would make a great Lara Croft. Or a superhero. She’s pretty badass.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:33:20am

I should mention I’ve just begun watching season 3 of PoI, so I’m skipping those YouTube vids above.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:35:24am

re: #315 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I should mention I’ve just begun watching season 3 of PoI, so I’m skipping those YouTube vids above.

Definitely don’t watch them then!

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steve_davis  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:38:09am

re: #85 Ziggy_TARDIS

I think we need some sort of military reform to our officer corps. How did this imbecile become a General?

1.Go to West Point, so that you can’t be RIF’d. 2. Make it to full colonel. 3. Be generous giving blowjobs to the brass above you.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:39:24am

As another thought, I wonder if Newt would consider doing the same for his Dominionist friends who have openly advocated doing exactly what he’s baselessly accusing American Muslims of?

In their own words.
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unproven innocence  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:41:33am

re: #315 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I should mention I’ve just begun watching season 3 of PoI, so I’m skipping those YouTube vids above.

re: #316 Timothy Watson

Definitely don’t watch them then!

The 1st might be a bit of a spoiler (sorry), but not the 2nd.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:46:40am

re: #128 teleskiguy

NEW POLL FOR THE HORSE RACE FUCKS!!! YAY!!!

Unpossible!

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sagehen  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:47:52am

re: #306 Emptor scriptor Remorse

This rapper has the Secret Service on his tail thanks to Malia Obama.

He’s in the new season of Mr Robot, him and Eliot eat all their meals together.

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Archangelus  Jul 15, 2016 • 5:51:05am

re: #315 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I should mention I’ve just begun watching season 3 of PoI, so I’m skipping those YouTube vids above.

Oh yeah, them clips are off limits. And enjoy the rest of the POI run of course (one of my personal favorite shows ever) :)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:00:06am

So, in less serious matters, it now appears that, despite Trump having announced Tim Tebow as a convention night speaker, Tebow is in fact not speaking at Trump’s sshitstorm parade.

I was bit surprised to see his name mentioned in connection with Trump. Doesn’t really seem like Tebow who I think is sincerely religious and a decent citizen. Conservative, sure. But not a Trump type guy.

Seems like Trump is running a pretty smooth convention process. ///

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:00:21am

re: #318 Bill and Opus for 2016!

As another thought, I wonder if Newt would consider doing the same for his Dominionist friends who have openly advocated doing exactly what he’s baselessly accusing American Muslims of?

Image: In their own words.

“…We must reinstate the authority of OUR NARROW-MINDED, MISOGYNIST, BIGOTED, SELF-SERVING INTERPRETATION of God’s Word…”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:06:32am

Got my Kindle Fire and Echo last night.

Have fired up the Kindle Fire, signed up for Audible, listened to a book on it. It sounds good.

Have not started with the Echo yet. There’s remarkable little product information material with it, and with the Kindle Fire as well. Guess I’ll have to turn it on and start playing.

I’ve bought cheap toasters that come with more instructions than the Echo.

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jeffreyw  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:06:41am

Imgur


Good morning! Call me Gabe. I’m new around here but it seems a nice place.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:14:28am

re: #322 Archangelus

Oh yeah, them clips are off limits. And enjoy the rest of the POI run of course (one of my personal favorite shows ever) :)

Thanks. Following the recs of people here, I started watching it from the beginning. There have been a couple of episodes that logically were pretty bad, but I appreciate the scripts for avoiding the rampant gun battles, a la NCIS: Los Angeles. I’m at the point where the AI aspects of The Machine are beginning to manifest.

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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:25:19am

This is just incredible. Imagine Hillary reacting this way and her staff saying this. She’d be donezo.

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Jayleia  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:26:49am

re: #328 Jenner7

But he wasn’t so torn up that he canceled a fundraiser, right?

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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:27:17am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:27:41am

re: #329 Jayleia

But he wasn’t so torn up that he canceled a fundraiser, right?

The spice grift must flow!!

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:27:51am

Morning…

Just saw a commercial here in Columbus with the theme: If your representatives represent the Republican Party and Donald Trump then they may not represent you.

Just the kind of ad spots that need to be run. Blame all the Republicans in Congress for Trump.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:32:53am

re: #330 Jenner7

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This isn’t going to be good for the French tourism industry, which may sound like a petty point, but another effect of terrorism is economic damage, and people losing their jobs takes a severe toll, adding to the victims.

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Jay C  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:33:30am

re: #323 Sir John Barron

So, in less serious matters, it now appears that, despite Trump having announced Tim Tebow as a convention night speaker, Tebow is in fact not speaking at Trump’s sshitstorm parade.

I was bit surprised to see his name mentioned in connection with Trump. Doesn’t really seem like Tebow who I think is sincerely religious and a decent citizen. Conservative, sure. But not a Trump type guy.

Seems like Trump is running a pretty smooth convention process. ///

Actually, from what I’ve read recently, it sounds like the RNC is smoothing out the process for him: it seems they’ve decided to permanently squelch any sort of “Dump Trump” movement; so all those pleasant fantasies of convention-floor chaos in Cleveland are probably going to remain just that. I’m guessing it’s a matter of desperation: having to “unite” the Party around the least popular and least appealing candidate in living memory, they probably feel that managing the convention to be any kind of improvement over Chicago 1968 is the absolute least they need to do. For the GOP’s survival.

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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:33:37am

CNN reporting driver was known to police, but didn’t have a “jihadi record”.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:33:48am

re: #328 Jenner7

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This is just incredible. Imagine Hillary reacting this way and her staff saying this. She’d be donezo.

At bottom, Trump is scared out of his mind of anyone who is not in his immediate circle. It’s obvious that despite all his bluster, he’s just a frightened old dude who talks tough to hide it.

And as Olbermann pointed out last night, he’s so scared of them that he lets the very thought of them completely throw him off his game. That’s not how a president should react to the world, but his fans seem to want a president who’s as hysterical and shook as they are.

That’s their main complaint with how Obama handles world events - his steadiness and cool demeanor just isn’t hair-on-fire enough for them. I’d feel sad for them, but fuck ‘em. They’re all prisoners of their own fear, from Trump on down.

They deserve every bit of the irrational anguish they bathe in on the daily. But the country deserves someone who doesn’t act like my frightened cat when something in the world goes wrong.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:34:32am

re: #329 Jayleia

But he wasn’t so torn up that he canceled a fundraiser, right?

Or mutiple phoners on cable TV.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:35:16am

re: #332 ObserverArt

Morning…

Just saw a commercial here in Columbus with the theme: If your representatives represent the Republican Party and Donald Trump then they may not represent you.

Just the kind of ad spots that need to be run. Blame all the Republicans in Congress for Trump.

The ‘Standards’ ad? That’s a good one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:35:42am

re: #335 Jenner7

CNN reporting driver was known to police, but didn’t have a “jihadi record”.

I am sure he would have failed a Sharia test…

/

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:36:27am

re: #334 Jay C

Actually, from what I’ve read recently, it sounds like the RNC is smoothing out the process for him: it seems they’ve decided to permanently squelch any sort of “Dump Trump” movement; so all those pleasant fantasies of convention-floor chaos in Cleveland are probably going to remain just that. I’m guessing it’s a matter of desperation: having to “unite” the Party around the least popular and least appealing candidate in living memory, they probably feel that managing the convention to be any kind of improvement over Chicago 1968 is the absolute least they need to do. For the GOP’s survival.

They don’t have much choice since there really isn’t any alternative candidate to Trump. None of the men who are viable for 2020, such as Cruz, Ryan and Rubio want to be responsible for tearing the party apart and thwarting the will of the GOP primary voters this year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:36:30am

re: #333 Big Beautiful Door

This isn’t going to be good for the French tourism industry, which may sound like a petty point, but another effect of terrorism is economic damage, and people losing their jobs takes a severe toll, adding to the victims.

I visited Nice and Antibes three years ago and would love to go back there…

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:37:40am

re: #335 Jenner7

CNN reporting driver was known to police, but didn’t have a “jihadi record”.

I’m thinking it may be just the opposite, judging by the number of Muslims killed.

A local dude maybe pissed about Muslims in his midst.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:38:02am
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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:38:24am

Um…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:39:06am

re: #341 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I visited Nice and Antibes three years ago and would love to go back there…

Which is rational. But our lizard brains aren’t very good at calculating odds, and people tend to greatly overestimate the odds of dying in a terrorist attack.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:39:49am

re: #344 Jenner7

Um…

Amazing distortions! Sad! Pay attention to me!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:40:10am

re: #344 Jenner7

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Um…

Anyone quoting his exact words is lying about Newt!/

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:40:39am

re: #344 Jenner7

Amazing distortions of my interview on Hannity last night.i will do a lengthy facebook live later this morning on the issue of sharia

Dude, they quoted you ver-fucking-batim.

The ‘distortions’ charge is straight out of the Trump playbook. Newtie wants that VP gig really bad.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:41:53am

Trump is Brave Sir Robin. Tough talking bully, but a crap in the pants fool who runs away at the slightest bit of pushback.

And oh will there be pushback from the Democrats who don’t have to chase his bigot brigade supporters.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:42:38am

re: #348 makeitstop

Dude, they quoted you ver-fucking-batim.

The ‘distortions’ charge is straight out of the Trump playbook. Newtie wants that VP gig really bad.

Newt invented the concept: “Quoting what I said is a lie.” I forget the exact quote, but that’s pretty close.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:42:59am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:43:28am

re: #344 Jenner7

Amazing distortions of my interview on Hannity last night.i will do a lengthy facebook live later this morning on the issue of sharia
— Newt Gingrich

Translation: Excellent! Just the response I needed for VP!

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:43:37am
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:44:21am

So, apparently this guy was pretty close in type to the Orlando shooter or Dallas shooter. Complete waste of space

French media identified the perpetrator as Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel (1985 - 14 July 2016), a 31-year-old man of Tunisian nationality. His identity papers were found in the truck.[20] Reportedly, he was born in Nice to Tunisian parents, had a residence permit and was married, but in the course of divorce. He was reported to have had financial difficulties and to have worked as a driver, acquiring a truck permit less than a year before the attack.[20]

Also according to media reports, Bouhlel was known to police for five prior criminal offenses, notably regarding armed violence. He was last arrested less than a month before the attack after a traffic accident in which he had been sleeping at the wheel, and remained subject to judicial supervision. He was, however, not registered as a national security risk (fiche “S”) with French authorities.[20]

Bouhlal’s parents are divorced live in France. Reports say that Mohamed used to often visit Tunisia, saying the last time he did so was eight months ago, before he went back to France. The 31-year-old, said to have been married with three children, was not known by the Tunisian authorities to have been involved in any terrorism activities on Tunisian soil. However, he was known to the authorities in connection with drugs- and alcohol-related offences.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:45:20am

re: #349 lawhawk

Trump is Brave Sir Robin. Tough talking bully, but a crap in the pants fool who runs away at the slightest bit of pushback.

And oh will there be pushback from the Democrats who don’t have to chase his bigot brigade supporters.

I predict that next week’s GOP Convention will now be focused on trying to terrify the American people with the specter of Islamic terrorists hiding under every bed waiting to slit your throat while you sleep, unless we elect Trump to protect us.

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Jay C  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:45:48am

re: #342 makeitstop

I’m thinking it may be just the opposite, judging by the number of Muslims killed.

A local dude maybe pissed about Muslims in his midst.

Nope: the driver WAS a Muslim: originally from Tunisia. He appears not to have, AFACBD at this point, been associated with any jihadist or radical groups/movements, but according to BBC:

Sounds more like an Omar Matteen situation: disgruntled loser burns out and spins out and decides to take a bunch of folks with him. But, of course, as a Muslim, it gets spun as “jihadi terrorism” regardless…

However, he was known by to the authorities in connection with drugs and alcohol-related offences.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:46:14am

re: #355 Big Beautiful Door

That was going to be their strategy, starting with the opening salvo of Benghazi.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:47:20am

re: #355 Big Beautiful Door

I predict that next week’s GOP Convention will now be focused on trying to terrify the American people with the specter of Islamic terrorists hiding under every bed waiting to slit your throat while you sleep, unless we elect Trump to protect us.

I’m wondering if there’s a saturation point with that approach, though.

They’re already doing a Benghazi themed night. At what point does ‘I’m the only one who can protect you’ stop sounding authoritative and begin sounding desperate?

That’s walking a fine line, and I don’t think Trump can do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:47:20am

re: #354 Ziggy_TARDIS

So, apparently this guy was pretty close in type to the Orlando shooter or Dallas shooter. Complete waste of space

The face of Islamist immigrant terror…

/

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:47:32am

re: #342 makeitstop

I’m thinking it may be just the opposite, judging by the number of Muslims killed.

A local dude maybe pissed about Muslims in his midst.

I’ve been avoiding most accounts of the attack like the plague, so I don’t know how many Muslims were killed, but I’d remind you that 10 days ago Medina was attacked and, as we all know, in recent years Muslims have made up the vast majority of terrorism victims. The only difference seems to be they’re usually “collateral damage” when a Western target is attacked. I’m guessing the Da’esh types don’t give a shit, as they probably think Muslims who choose to live in the West deserve to die (as does anyone who disgrees with them).

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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:47:32am

If it were Hillary, you’d bet your ass they’d cover it.

This is just amazing. I mean, it wasn’t even an attack on our soil and he freaks out? None of this makes much sense.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:48:46am

re: #359 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The face of Islamist immigrant terror…

/

In a prior century, it was the Red Menace. Now, it’s the Green Hordes. That’s how the right wing Islamophobics see it. Creeping sharia, all while they’re pushing their own Christian ideologies into government actions at every opportunity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:48:53am

re: #361 Jenner7

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If it were Hillary, you’d bet your ass they’d cover it.

This is just amazing. I mean, it wasn’t even an attack on our soil and he freaks out? None of this makes much sense.

He wants to work with the gut panic reaction that all True Americans (TM) should feel about Islamic Jihad Terror.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:49:03am

re: #358 makeitstop

I’m wondering if there’s a saturation point with that approach, though.

They’re already doing a Benghazi themed night. At what point does ‘I’m the only one who can protect you’ stop sounding authoritative and begin sounding desperate?

That’s walking a fine line, and I don’t think Trump can do it.

The GOP will definitely test whether there is a saturation point or not, because as we saw with the comments last night, they are going to go way, way over the top with the anti-Islamic hysterics.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:49:45am
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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:50:55am

re: #360 CuriousLurker

I’ve been avoiding most accounts of the attack like the plague, so I don’t know how many Muslims were killed, but I’d remind you that 10 days ago Medina was attacked and, as we all know, in recent years Muslims have made up the vast majority of terrorism victims. The only difference seems to be they’re usually “collateral damage” when a Western target is attacked. I’m guessing the Da’esh types don’t give a shit, as they probably think Muslims who choose to live in the West deserve to die (as does anyone who disgrees with them).

True. And that’s a point missed by the hysterical mob (led by Trump and apparently Newt) who use ‘radical Islamic terrorists’ as their mantra.

It completely escapes them that Muslims are victims of this terror as well as non-Muslims. Kinda shoots down the whole narrative for them if they acknowledge that.

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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:52:13am

And I understand that our news is covering the attack in Nice (and should cover it), but I’ve been watching for almost an hour and NOTHING on Trump’s erratic behavior.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:53:05am

Looks like I was wrong, and DAESH was not involved. I’m sorry.

Not sure how we could have stopped this. It’s a soft target, you can’t really restrict large trucks because of their use in transport of goods, and his record indicated no radicalism.

It’s not like we can have Loser-Control. That’s simply impossible.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:53:12am

re: #366 makeitstop

True. And that’s a point missed by the hysterical mob (led by Trump and apparently Newt) who use ‘radical Islamic terrorists’ as their mantra.

It completely escapes them that Muslims are victims of this terror as well as non-Muslims. Kinda shoots down the whole narrative for them if they acknowledge that.

And I bet there will be zero acknowledgement of that at the Convention next week.

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:53:35am

If Sec. Clinton had said (or staffer had said) she reacted emotionally to the event, how many menstruation jokes would be flying around twitter right now. I mean, how many more above the current average.

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Nyet  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:54:12am

re: #356 Jay C

For an ISIS-related act it is customary for the terrorist to declare his or her ISIS allegiance publicly in some way (like Mateen did). I haven’t seen any reports of such a declaration.

Albeit the act was still most probably religiously motivated, as the driver was apparently heard shouting “Allahu Akbar”.

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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:54:19am

re: #347 Big Beautiful Door

Anyone quoting his exact words is lying about Newt!/

That sounds familiar. Maybe someone can find where he said anyone directly quoting him was a liar.

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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:54:50am

Figures, as soon as I say that, they cover Trump’s reaction. lol

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:58:23am

re: #373 Jenner7

Figures, as soon as I say that, they cover Trump’s reaction. lol

Good.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 6:59:36am

re: #372 Skip Intro

That sounds familiar. Maybe someone can find where he said anyone directly quoting him was a liar.

Found it.

thinkprogress.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:00:52am

re: #375 Big Beautiful Door

Found it.

thinkprogress.org

I think he wants us to ignore that man behind the curtain…

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:01:43am

re: #372 Skip Intro

That sounds familiar. Maybe someone can find where he said anyone directly quoting him was a liar.

Here ya go

I want to make sure every House Republican is protected from some kind of dishonest Democratic ad. So let me say on the record, any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:03:07am

re: #351 Joe Bacon

That makes me wonder if Newt’s in the Ashley Madison data dump. Since he’s all-in to Trump, I suppose Rage Furby will not be “researching” that possibility.

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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:03:57am

re: #375 Big Beautiful Door

Thanks.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:06:09am

re: #378 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That makes me wonder if Newt’s in the Ashley Madison data dump. Since he’s all-in to Trump, I suppose Rage Furby will not be “researching” that possibility.

Well, my “Spidey Sense” tingles when it comes to ol’ Tooty Fruity Newty and Ashley Madison…

You couldn’t ask for a more fitting spokesman!
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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:06:38am

re: #366 makeitstop

True. And that’s a point missed by the hysterical mob (led by Trump and apparently Newt) who use ‘radical Islamic terrorists’ as their mantra.

It completely escapes them that Muslims are victims of this terror as well as non-Muslims. Kinda shoots down the whole narrative for them if they acknowledge that.

Yeah, I was on Twitter last night (or early this morning?) and Kragar (I think) was arguing with knuckle-dragger who was claiming 60k people had been killed by radical jihadis in some span of years (don’t remember the exact numbers). I nearly had to sit on my hands to stop myself from asking the idiot how many of the 60k were Muslims and how many were Westerners. I didn’t though, because life is too short to be wasting time on hate-filled, ignorant idiots.

Oh, here’s the guy:

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:08:16am

re: #349 lawhawk

Trump is Brave Sir Robin. Tough talking bully, but a crap in the pants fool who runs away at the slightest bit of pushback.

And oh will there be pushback from the Democrats who don’t have to chase his bigot brigade supporters.

Yeah, I remember his reaction to a young American male that jump a barrier and made for Trump in Dayton Ohio during a speech.

But he’ll be just fine with thousands of young Americans from families not named Trump, Cheney, Bush, Romney and the like fighting a war we have been fighting since 2003 and looks like will be a “We are always at War in the Mideast” kind of thing Orwell thought of in his book 1984.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:08:42am

On Czech news, they were interviewing a neighbor of the perp in the Nice attack, and she was saying (and I’m paraphrasing here) that he was distinctly unusual and quite unfriendly towards his neighbors. He wouldn’t open the door for anyone, nor would he even so much as make small talk with his neighbors. She described him as “abnormal”.

Sounds like a hardcore loner, someone with a seriously antisocial personality.

The wingnut problem isn’t confined to the USA, of course - as this story illustrates.

Czech Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka (Social Democrats, CSSD) wrote to CTK on Thursday that deputy Pavlina Nytrova does not express the CSSD’s stance and policy on homosexuals and that he wants to meet her over her statements from which the party has dissociated itself.

Sobotka wrote that intolerance and prejudices must be fought with arguments.

Nytrova made the statements on Wednesday when the Chamber of Deputies debated a draft amendment that would allow registered partners to adopt offspring of their partners.

She said homosexuals are promiscuous in their majority, have an above-average tendency towards alcoholism, have a higher rate of mental disorders than the rest of people and that they will gradually try to legalise sex with children.

On public Czech Radio, she said the homosexual lobby has been gradually taking steps to establish supremacy over the heterosexual group.

Fortunately, the Deputy Premier and Finance Minister, Andrej Babiš (whom I’m generally skeptical of) spoke up:

Andrej Babis, ANO chairman and finance minister, dismissed Nytrova’s statements on Twitter as utter nonsense.

“I attended a boys’ wedding last year and I have many friends among homosexuals whom I esteem,” Babis wrote and attached a picture from the wedding.

praguemonitor.com

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:08:47am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He wants to work with the gut panic reaction that all True Americans (TM) should feel about Islamic Jihad Terror reality.

FTFY.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:09:35am

re: #384 Romantic Heretic

FTFY.

FOX reality

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:11:15am

All righty. Better go do the shopping. BBL.

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:12:00am

re: #358 makeitstop

I’m wondering if there’s a saturation point with that approach, though.

They’re already doing a Benghazi themed night. At what point does ‘I’m the only one who can protect you’ stop sounding authoritative and begin sounding desperate?

That’s walking a fine line, and I don’t think Trump can do it.

Here is the problem. You are thinking like a rational human being with his head on straight.

From what I can tell, the whole Trump declaring war and Newt wanting to test Muslims is being greeted as a great thing by the lesser lights.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:12:15am

Here’s a point that everyone seems to be missing regarding Newt’s proposal to ‘test’ for Sharia - in order to ‘test’ people to find out who’s a Sharia follower, they’ll have to test everyone.

Who’s gonna pay for administering the loyalty oath to every single American?

Way to think things through, “professor.”

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:13:17am

re: #383 Dr Lizardo

On Czech news, they were interviewing a neighbor of the perp in the Nice attack, and she was saying (and I’m paraphrasing here) that he was distinctly unusual and quite unfriendly towards his neighbors. He wouldn’t open the door for anyone, nor would he even so much as make small talk with his neighbors. She described him as “abnormal”.

Sounds like a hardcore loner, someone with a seriously antisocial personality.

The wingnut problem isn’t confined to the USA, of course - as this story illustrates.

Fortunately, the Deputy Premier and Finance Minister, Andrej Babiš (whom I’m generally skeptical of) spoke up:

praguemonitor.com

Weren’t there a bunch of ISIS members who were described as sociopaths who just wanted to kill people and had no religious ideology?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:13:46am

re: #388 makeitstop

Here’s a point that everyone seems to be missing regarding Newt’s proposal to ‘test’ for Sharia - in order to ‘test’ people to find out who’s a Sharia follower, they’ll have to test everyone.

Who’s gonna pay for administering the loyalty oath to every single American?

Way to think things through, “professor.”

He is smart enough to be aware that his proposal is unrealistic and in violation of the First Amendment. But he also knows that it plays well with his target audience…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:14:11am

re: #383 Dr Lizardo

All the more reason to indiscriminately bomb foreign countries and “test” foreign looking people in America.

///

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:14:51am

re: #388 makeitstop

Excellent point, considering that some of those involved in terrorism have been persons converted to Islam. Adam Gadahn comes to mind.

Guess we need a precrime department and a trillion dollar investment in precogs who can sort through all the beliefs of everyone to find the handful who might carry out terror attacks based on Sharia.

Good thing we can ignore the Charleston shooters, the white supremacists, sovcits, and all the regular background violence we are far too comfortable with.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:14:56am

re: #388 makeitstop

Here’s a point that everyone seems to be missing regarding Newt’s proposal to ‘test’ for Sharia - in order to ‘test’ people to find out who’s a Sharia follower, they’ll have to test everyone.

Who’s gonna pay for administering the loyalty oath to every single American?

Way to think things through, “professor.”

Partly Newt is just being stupid and partly Newt and others just want to move the needle, shift the infamous Overton Window.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:15:54am

re: #381 CuriousLurker

I think the Serbians killed at least 80k Muslims during the Bosnian War. Another 10k in Kosovo.

So that would be 80k in 3 years, and 10k in 1 year. Unsure of the numbers in the Central African Republic. The LRA in in Central Africa has killed 65k from 1987 to now.

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:16:54am

re: #367 Jenner7

And I understand that our news is covering the attack in Nice (and should cover it), but I’ve been watching for almost an hour and NOTHING on Trump’s erratic behavior.

Well Nicole Wallace on Morning Joke said Trump declaring war resonates with the mothers of this world. And that was about 5 or so minutes into the show…but before I could change the channel.

That would be the mothers that lost over 4000 sons and daughters in our ongoing war so far. I’m sure they are ready for more.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:18:03am

I would point out that the Takbir (saying Allahu Akbar) is an extremely common phrase used by all Muslims used in a wide variety of situations, its use by jihadists being only one of many. IOW, given the type of attack it could very well have been religiously motivated, but the attacker uttering “Allahu Akbar” doesn’t guarantee that it was.

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:19:16am

re: #370 Franklin

If Sec. Clinton had said (or staffer had said) she reacted emotionally to the event, how many menstruation jokes would be flying around twitter right now. I mean, how many more above the current average.

If a woman says she wants a war she is hysteric. If a man says he wants a war he is manly.

And as we know, they already say Hillary is a hawk and use it against her while now we see Trump calling for a war but he is Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:19:47am

re: #397 CuriousLurker

I would point out that the Takbir (saying Allahu Akbar) is an extremely common phrase used by all Muslims used in a wide variety of situations, its use by jihadists being only one of many. IOW, given the type of attack it could very well have been religiously motivated, but the attacker uttering “Allahu Akbar” doesn’t guarantee that it was.

I like to go drinking at a place called Ahllau Ak, and you know how they answer the phone there?

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:20:30am

re: #389 Timothy Watson

Weren’t there a bunch of ISIS members who were described as sociopaths who just wanted to kill people and had no religious ideology?

Claiming jihad certainly provides them with a “cover” for their pathology.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:20:53am

re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I like to go drinking at a place called Ahllau Ak, and you know how they answer the phone there?

Heh.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:20:55am

re: #393 Sir John Barron

Partly Newt is just being stupid and partly Newt and others just want to move the needle, shift the infamous Overton Window.

A few days ago I read a John Judis article about Bernie’s campaign (either at TPM or The New Republic) in which the author addressed the impracticality and lack of detail in many of Bernie’s proposals. He basically said that for Bernie and many of his voters the importance was not the details per se but in importance in introducing the political ideas into the discussion, an effort more or less to shift the acceptable window of policy discussion. Kind of a similar thing to what the far-right in its various guises has attempted to do for years, with some success. The author noted that Trump’s campaign has played a similar role, i.e. “the Wall”.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:22:40am
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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:24:09am

re: #397 CuriousLurker

I would point out that the Takbir (saying Allahu Akbar) is an extremely common phrase used by all Muslims used in a wide variety of situations, its use by jihadists being only one of many. IOW, given the type of attack it could very well have been religiously motivated, but the attacker uttering “Allahu Akbar” doesn’t guarantee that it was.

It’s akin to saying OMG. Holy Crap. Jesus Christ! Etc. It is a common expletive in a wide range of circumstances, and doesn’t automagically confer jihadi outcomes on any incident.

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:24:37am

re: #388 makeitstop

Here’s a point that everyone seems to be missing regarding Newt’s proposal to ‘test’ for Sharia - in order to ‘test’ people to find out who’s a Sharia follower, they’ll have to test everyone.

Who’s gonna pay for administering the loyalty oath to every single American?

Way to think things through, “professor.”

School kids!

They need the work and it would teach them some responsibility. They could move up from janitors to citizen test administrators.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:25:26am

re: #397 CuriousLurker

I would point out that the Takbir (saying Allahu Akbar) is an extremely common phrase used by all Muslims used in a wide variety of situations, its use by jihadists being only one of many. IOW, given the type of attack it could very well have been religiously motivated, but the attacker uttering “Allahu Akbar” doesn’t guarantee that it was.

It’s the Arabic equivalent of Hallelujah, which is the anglicized version of a Hebrew exclamation.

It is a transliteration of the Hebrew word הַלְּלוּיָהּ (Modern halleluya, Tiberian halləlûyāh), which is composed of two elements: הַלְּלוּ (second-person imperative masculine plural form of the Hebrew verb hallal: an exhortation to “praise” addressed to several people[1]) and יָהּ (the names of God Jah or Yah).[2][3][4]

en.wikipedia.org

So Christians singing Handel’s chorus from Messiah should all be deported multiple times, one for each Hallelujah. //

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:25:39am

re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I like to go drinking at a place called Ahllau Ak, and you know how they answer the phone there?

Hugh Jass there?

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:27:57am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

MSNBC’s Ayman Mohyeldin: France Uses The Phrase “Islamic Radical Terrorism” And That Didn’t Stop The Attack

Well that’s because they are the French. No one takes ‘em seriously.

Now when a big orange American bully says it, it carries much more weight.

(do I need a tag?)

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:28:42am

re: #403 Sir John Barron

It’s because Obama doesn’t. Don’t they get that?

///

Ah yes, Obama the Magic Negro™—if only he would say it, then it would save all the white people, but he supposedly hates white people so…

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:29:14am

re: #404 lawhawk

It’s akin to saying OMG. Holy Crap. Jesus Christ! Etc. It is a common expletive in a wide range of circumstances, and doesn’t automagically confer jihadi outcomes on any incident.

Exactly.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:31:38am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:32:25am

re: #403 Sir John Barron

It’s because Obama doesn’t. Don’t they get that?

///

Click your heels together and say “Islamic Radical Terrorism” 3 times, and everything will be okay.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:33:55am

re: #335 Jenner7

CNN reporting driver was known to police, but didn’t have a “jihadi record”.

Almost sounding like a criminal gun runner that panicked and ran right through a celebration. Certainly not saying that is what happened, but it sure fits the facts I have seen so far.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:33:56am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart

This is going well.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:35:21am

re: #397 CuriousLurker

I would point out that the Takbir (saying Allahu Akbar) is an extremely common phrase used by all Muslims used in a wide variety of situations, its use by jihadists being only one of many. IOW, given the type of attack it could very well have been religiously motivated, but the attacker uttering “Allahu Akbar” doesn’t guarantee that it was.

An example from the Wiki page linked to above:

Takbir » Usage » In times of distress

This phrase is also used in times of distress.

Just before a Garuda Airbus A300B-4 crashed into the jungle near Medan, Indonesia, the pilot screamed “Aaaaaaah! Allahu Akbar!” into his radio. According to a radio communication transcript, the pilot’s conversation with the air controller had been in English, but his last words were this Arabic phrase as the plane crashed on September 26, 1997, killing all 235 people aboard in Indonesia’s deadliest crash. It was suspected that the crash may have been due to either disorientation or engine failure caused by local dense smog resulting from forest fires.[

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:35:23am

re: #96 Stanley Sea

Mick Jagger’s 29 year old gf is pregnant.

my dog

And the kids oldest sibling is only 45 and youngest is 17.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:36:33am

re: #416 ObserverArt

And the kids oldest sibling is only 45 and youngest is 17.

Not bad for a guy who can’t get satisfaction.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:38:12am

re: #388 makeitstop

Here’s a point that everyone seems to be missing regarding Newt’s proposal to ‘test’ for Sharia - in order to ‘test’ people to find out who’s a Sharia follower, they’ll have to test everyone.

Who’s gonna pay for administering the loyalty oath to every single American?

Way to think things through, “professor.”

Unless they do it by targeting people fingered by informers. We could form a special FBI branch of sharia police, who will knock on doors in the middle of the night to take people in for questioning. This may be what Newt has in mind.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:40:22am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:41:36am

re: #96 Stanley Sea

Mick Jagger’s 29 year old gf is pregnant.

my dog

Is Mick Jagger like 80?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:42:06am

re: #416 ObserverArt

And the kids oldest sibling is only 45 and youngest is 17.

Geez, and I laughed when I realized that Edward James Olmos’ eldest son, Bodie Olmos, is older than Edward James’ current wife, Lymari Nadal.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:42:10am

Okay, gotta get some work done. *sigh*

BBL

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:43:07am

re: #420 Sir John Barron

Is Mick Jagger like 80?

72.

He just looks 80+.

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:43:23am

I don’t think #NeverTrump means what you think it means…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:44:30am

re: #424 Franklin

I don’t think #NeverTrump means what you think it means…

This man is a child.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:44:55am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart

Or maybe that one gets a tactical facepalm?

Of course, Jean-Luc has the final word:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:45:13am

re: #424 Franklin

I don’t think #NeverTrump means what you think it means…

The presumptive nominee of one of the nation’s two major political parties tweeted this.

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unproven innocence  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:45:19am

re: #360 CuriousLurker

I’ve been avoiding most accounts of the attack like the plague, so I don’t know how many Muslims were killed, but I’d remind you that 10 days ago Medina was attacked and, as we all know, in recent years Muslims have made up the vast majority of terrorism victims. The only difference seems to be they’re usually “collateral damage” when a Western target is attacked. I’m guessing the Da’esh types don’t give a shit, as they probably think Muslims who choose to live in the West deserve to die (as does anyone who disgrees with them).

According to the Koran, those faithful who choose to travel to and live outside of dar al Islam should leave behind their holy book(s) and all related writings. There are many ways to interpret such a rule.

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:46:00am
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Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:46:30am

re: #426 lawhawk

I think you just combined about a quarter of all of D_Fs posts into one comment.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:47:07am

No doubt the “Gunsplainers” (hat tip to Bob & Chez) will deflect all coverage identifying the weapon as an AR-15 (type) rifle, since it’s technically a pistol

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:47:12am

re: #424 Franklin

I don’t think #NeverTrump means what you think it means…

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Michael Steele was wrong again last night, as usual. He said Mike Lee definitely had the 28 votes he needed to get the minority report to the floor

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:47:22am

Up and at Twitter

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:48:29am

re: #426 lawhawk

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:48:33am

re: #431 FormerDirtDart

No doubt the “Gunsplainers” (hat tip to Bob & Chez) will deflect all coverage identifying the weapon as an AR-15 (type) rifle, since it’s technically a pistol

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Another patriot’s blood waters the Tree of Liberty./

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:49:29am

Laughing at this more than I should…

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:52:40am

Some heroes ride motorcycles….

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:54:10am

re: #428 unproven innocence

According to the Koran, those faithful who choose to travel to and live outside of dar al Islam should leave behind their holy book(s) and all related writings. There are many ways to interpret such a rule.

That’s why we have many books on tafsir (exegesis). Using your example, what would happen to the children born to those faithful who left the dar al Islam—how would they learn? And what about converts?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:54:11am

re: #435 Big Beautiful Door

Another patriot’s blood waters the Tree of Liberty./

Well, since he’s from Baltimore’s Western District, he won’t be identified as a “patriot”. More likely as a “thug”

(and, I know when many of you read “Western District” in you head you heard Herc saying “the Western District way!”)

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:54:13am

LOOOOLLLL

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:54:28am

re: #431 FormerDirtDart

No doubt the “Gunsplainers” (hat tip to Bob & Chez) will deflect all coverage identifying the weapon as an AR-15 (type) rifle, since it’s technically a pistol

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And I am sure that he never used that recoil spring tube as a butt-stock.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:55:52am

re: #440 Franklin

LOOOOLLLL

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What a moran. Who is doing his scheduling for him? First he decides to do it on Friday, when no one is paying attention to the news, and now he’s doing it on a weekend?

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:55:55am

re: #440 Franklin

LOOOOLLLL

[Embedded content]

So much for announcing being ‘inappropriate.’

I’m betting his earlier tweets weren’t generating sufficient attention.

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stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:56:43am

re: #358 makeitstop

I’m wondering if there’s a saturation point with that approach, though.

They’re already doing a Benghazi themed night. At what point does ‘I’m the only one who can protect you’ stop sounding authoritative and begin sounding desperate?

That’s walking a fine line, and I don’t think Trump can do it.

How many times during the convention will they show footage of the Twin Towers being hit and going down? I remember that Keith Olberman walked off the news set during the 2008 convention and vented his disgust from a more private setting. Keith’s comments start at about 3:30 on the video. He was badly shaken.

Trump’s convention is going to make 2008 look like kumbaya.

Keith Olbermann Response to RNC video

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:57:36am

re: #440 Franklin

In the Trump presidency, all important announcements and “speeches” will be tweeted at random times.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:57:39am

re: #434 FormerDirtDart

I swear that I know the exact scene that his facepalm is from. It’s when he’s got that baby Godzilla.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:58:13am

re: #429 Franklin

[Embedded content]

Upding for Horatio Caine emoticons.

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Interesting Times  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:58:23am

Trump-Pence
Trumpence
Trumpenstein®

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:58:29am
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unproven innocence  Jul 15, 2016 • 7:58:52am

re: #438 CuriousLurker

That’s why we have many books on tafsir (exegesis). Using your example, what would happen to the children born to those faithful who left the dar al Islam—how would they learn? And what about converts?

I assume that long-standing emphasis on memorization is one way of coping with absence of hardcopy.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:01:14am

re: #446 lawhawk

I swear that I know the exact scene that his facepalm is from. It’s when he’s got that baby Godzilla.

blowing out smoke rings instead of fire…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:01:27am
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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:02:56am

Yup!

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:03:13am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:04:01am
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Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:04:03am

re: #442 Timothy Watson

What a moran. Who is doing his scheduling for him? First he decides to do it on Friday, when no one is paying attention to the news, and now he’s doing it on a weekend?

People were about to find out when Pence withdrew from the governor’s race. Trump wanted to announce it first.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:05:08am

Pence should just say no.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:05:11am

re: #456 Belafon

People were about to find out when Pence withdrew from the governor’s race. Trump wanted to announce it first.

talk about coordination…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:07:38am

re: #452 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

“Cancel everything! I gotta be on Twitter!”

“But Mr Trump, Gov. Pnce has to confirm whether he’s running for reelection, TODAY!”

“I GOTTA BE ON TWITTER!”

“But…”

“Okay, I’ll ANNOUNCE it on Twitter! There, are you HAPPY!”

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Jayleia  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:08:42am

re: #458 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whatever the consequences of this year’s trainwreck we call an election…it WILL be entertaining for people like me.

Also terrifying and depressing.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:08:54am

re: #458 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

talk about coordination…

Trump really boxed himself in with yesterday’s announcement. He should have instead done something like “I’m here to announce my VP, Mike Pence. Now, let’s talk about the events in France and an appropriate response.” The pivot would have looked better than what he’s been doing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:08:55am

re: #457 Stanley Sea

Pence should just say no.

Like Tebow.

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:09:21am

Pence couldn’t even clean up shop before the announcement?

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:10:37am

Oppo continues apace

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:11:43am

re: #464 Franklin

Oppo continues apace

Feature, not a bug.

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:12:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:12:51am

re: #460 Jayleia

Whatever the consequences of this year’s trainwreck we call an election…it WILL be entertaining for people like me.

Also terrifying and depressing.

Because it is already being viewed as normal and not some horrific aberration…

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:13:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:13:48am

re: #463 Franklin

Pence couldn’t even clean up shop before the announcement?

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talk about fucking coordination…this shows what sort of information policy one could expect from a Trump administration…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:13:54am

re: #464 Franklin

Oppo continues apace

Trying to ensure a 0% share of the Hispanic vote.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:14:57am

re: #450 unproven innocence

I assume that long-standing emphasis on memorization is one way of coping with absence of hardcopy.

Yes, but rote memorization doesn’t cover tafsir or any of the other aspects such as hadith, sunnah, fiqh, etc. and it certainly wouldn’t be helpful for converts, especially if the memorization was by someone who lacked sufficient fluency in both classical Arabic and modern English to accurately translate/interpret what was being relayed.

It would be like saying Jews could rely solely on the Hebrew verses in the Torah to understand Judaism, completely ignoring the Tanakh, Talmud, Midrash etc. Or, if you prefer, Christian knowledge & understanding being dependent on only the original (Kione) Greek of the New Testament.

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William of Orange  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:15:52am

re: #36 Tigger2

[Embedded content]

Anagram of “Republican” is “Real nub pic”.

“Nub” according to the Urban Dictionary.

plural of nub, a player who exhibits negative skill

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:16:30am

Well, you KNEW this was coming…

Because France Doesn’t Regulate Trucks.
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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:16:43am

re: #344 Jenner7

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Um…

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:16:47am

Oppo tweets travel halfway around the world before Mike Pence even puts his pants on, or something like that.

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:18:17am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:18:52am

re: #476 Franklin

Damn, HRC laying the smacketh down right quick.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:18:56am

re: #446 lawhawk

I swear that I know the exact scene that his facepalm is from. It’s when he’s got that baby Godzilla.

Yeah, we won’t talk about those embarrassing films.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:20:27am

re: #473 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, you KNEW this was coming…

[Embedded content]

Hurr hurr

Also, too: that snapshot of Krauthammer. Good grief.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:20:29am

“Madame Secretary? It’s official. Mike Pence.”

“Thank you. Release the Pence-Specific Flying Monkeys. FLY, MY PRETTIES! FLY!!!!”

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Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:20:47am

re: #463 Franklin

Pence couldn’t even clean up shop before the announcement?

[Embedded content]

Check out this timeline of how trump fucked up the digital release of info (someone said he prob hired his caddy as the it guy)

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Interesting Times  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:21:57am

re: #476 Franklin

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What’s amazing is that everything highlighted in red is, according to the GOP base, a feature, not a bug.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:22:06am

re: #468 Franklin

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Her media team is so on it. Those boys are ion for a rough election season.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:22:14am

re: #481 Stanley Sea

Check out this timeline of how trump fucked up the digital release of info (someone said he prob hired his caddy as the it guy)

[Embedded content]

Fucking straight-up amateur hour.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:22:17am
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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:23:10am

re: #481 Stanley Sea

Check out this timeline of how trump fucked up the digital release of info (someone said he prob hired his caddy as the it guy)

[Embedded content]

Wow!

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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:23:52am

re: #433 The Vicious Babushka

Up and at Twitter

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:27:07am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:27:19am

re: #479 Sir John Barron

Hurr hurr

Also, too: that snapshot of Krauthammer. Good grief.

He looks like a B-movie villain.

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:28:35am

Sorry for the torrent of twitter posts this morning, but it’s ripe for the picking:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:29:29am

And guess which campaign is flooding social media with information on Pence.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:29:33am

re: #488 Franklin

Which is why Philando Castile has four mug shots visible online. None were for felonies or serious misdemeanors.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:29:49am

re: #473 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, you KNEW this was coming…

[Embedded content]

If a policy can’t prevent 100% of bad things from happening, then it shouldn’t exist.

//

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:30:27am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:31:07am

re: #493 Belafon

If a policy can’t prevent 100% of bad things from happening, then it shouldn’t exist.

//

“Meanwhile, here is my anti-abortion regulation bill to save women’s lives.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:31:18am

The first official concept art from Guardians Of The Galaxy 2 has emerged, and I gotta say, it’s looking pretty good.

Image: CnYiBEWUAAA1uIy.jpg:large

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:32:07am

re: #495 Sir John Barron

“Meanwhile, here is my anti-abortion regulation bill to save women’s lives.”

Or my bill to prevent transgendered people from committing sexual assault. Fucking hypocrites.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:32:47am

re: #440 Franklin

I am pleased to announce that I have chosen Governor Mike Pence as my Vice Presidential running mate. News conference tomorrow at 11:00 A.M.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 15, 2016

WTF. I thought he was holding off his announcement?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:32:50am

re: #488 Franklin

All the fees and fines in Ferguson, MO, which the killing of Michael Brown and the protests ultimately revealed. Might never have come to light otherwise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:32:58am

re: #496 Dr Lizardo

The first official concept art from Guardians Of The Galaxy 2 has emerged, and I gotta say, it’s looking pretty good.

Image: CnYiBEWUAAA1uIy.jpg:large

I am simply not enough of a Marvel comics fan to get anything out of GotG part 1…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:33:16am

re: #498 Dr. Matt

WTF. I thought he was holding off his announcement?

He did. For 23 minutes.
/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:34:31am

re: #498 Dr. Matt

WTF. I thought he was holding off his announcement?

Then they realized that their entire information policy was a total uncoordinated clusterf*ck and that they had to announce before Pence officially withdrew from the IN governor’s race

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:34:33am

re: #500 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am simply not enough of a Marvel comics fan to get anything out of GotG part 1…

I knew nothing of GoG before I saw the movie. Turns out it made no difference. It’s just a great movie.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:34:37am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:35:13am

re: #504 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Can anyone blame them?

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:36:25am

re: #498 Dr. Matt

WTF. I thought he was holding off his announcement?

The impulsive sonofabitch couldn’t help himself.

It’s like he’s got a bad case of Twitter onanism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:36:39am

re: #498 Dr. Matt

WTF. I thought he was holding off his announcement?

He was about to get scooped by the Indiana Secretary of State’s office confirming that Pence had not registered to run for reelection. Apparently when Trump cancelled the announcement press conference, nobody realized, or maybe bothered to tell Trump, that this would happen.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:36:45am

re: #500 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am simply not enough of a Marvel comics fan to get anything out of GotG part 1…

I actually enjoyed it. GotG was one of Marvel’s not-so-universally-known properties (like say, Captain America or The Avengers or Iron Man), and it was nice to see it get a feature film. Marvel took sort of a gamble on that one, and it paid off handsomely, both commercially and critically.

I have to hand it to Marvel, they’ve been doing solid work bringing their comic book characters to the silver screen. Better than DC, at least thus far.

509
lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:37:22am

Trump and his clown crew (especially his family) are undisciplined and incapable of managing anything. This should clue you in on how they’d handle national security.

510
Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:37:23am

re: #506 makeitstop

The impulsive sonofabitch couldn’t help himself.

It’s like he’s got a bad case of Twitter onanism.

Compulsive Twitterbation.

511
Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:37:35am

re: #504 lawhawk

Many of the replies are of the “yeah, so?” variety.

They don’t realize just how much of a clown campaign this is.

512
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:37:48am

re: #503 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I knew nothing of GoG before I saw the movie. Turns out it made no difference. It’s just a great movie.

Kinda went past me…I guess it was well done, but a matter of taste.

513
Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:37:50am

re: #504 lawhawk

LOL

514
FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:38:27am

A brief break from the ugly seriousness of our world

515
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:38:37am
516
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:38:38am

re: #508 Dr Lizardo

I actually enjoyed it. GotG was one of Marvel’s not-so-universally-known properties (like say, Captain America or The Avengers or Iron Man), and it was nice to see it get a feature film. Marvel took sort of a gamble on that one, and it paid off handsomely, both commercially and critically.

I have to hand it to Marvel, they’ve been doing solid work bringing their comic book characters to the silver screen. Better than DC, at least thus far.

Marvel’s success seems based on a production team grounded in Marvel comic lore. Warner/DC hasn’t quite figured that out yet.

517
HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:39:04am

re: #509 lawhawk

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Trump and his clown crew (especially his family) are undisciplined and incapable of managing anything. This should clue you in on how they’d handle national security.

Amateur campaign is amateurish.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:39:35am

re: #504 lawhawk

As of 11:30am, Governor Pence and Donald Trump do not follow each other on Twitter.

who the fuck is in charge of communications there?

519
Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:40:12am

It was posted up a few posts but the laundry list of things Team Trump failed to do has grown, have a look through, this is a great breakdown

520
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:40:21am

re: #514 FormerDirtDart

A brief break from the ugly seriousness of our world

[Embedded content]

That’s what I will be watching with my kids at Christmas…

521
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:40:55am

re: #517 HappyWarrior

Amateur campaign is amateurish.

Trump himself has poor impulse control. I can’t imagine how anyone working for him could stay sane.

522
calochortus  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:41:02am

re: #395 ObserverArt

Well Nicole Wallace on Morning Joke said Trump declaring war resonates with the mothers of this world. And that was about 5 or so minutes into the show…but before I could change the channel.

That would be the mothers that lost over 4000 sons and daughters in our ongoing war so far. I’m sure they are ready for more.

Oh, it resonates, all right…

523
lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:41:29am

re: #516 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Marvel’s success seems based on a production team grounded in Marvel comic lore. Warner/DC hasn’t quite figured that out yet.

And having directors who actually like the comic book heroes instead of trashing their very identity.

Marvel benefited from great casting choices, starting with Robert Downey Jr, on down the line.

DC’s biggest weakness has been that Zach Snyder can’t stand Superman, which is why the last two movies have been tough to swallow.

524
Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:41:46am

re: #514 FormerDirtDart

Which why I have grown to appreciate Star Wars. It may not be as complex, intimate, or smart as Doctor Who, but it is a big romantic epic that is full of hope.

Not that Doctor Who is not also romantic or full of hope, but it does so differently.

525
I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:42:29am

re: #521 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Trump himself has poor impulse control. I can’t imagine how anyone working for him could stay sane.

Do you have ANY evidence that he has sane employees? Any?

526
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:42:36am
527
Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:42:50am

re: #520 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s what I will be watching with my kids at Christmas…

Oh, I’ll be seeing it when that comes out here in the Czech Republic, believe me. I’m very much looking forward to it.

I’m also looking forward to Suicide Squad - I’m basically keeping my fingers crossed. I’m most interested to see Jared Leto’s interpretation of the Joker. Every actor, from Sid Caesar to the late Heath Ledger, has had his own take on the character, and I’ve little doubt that Leto’s promises to be interesting.

528
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:43:41am

re: #523 lawhawk

And having directors who actually like the comic book heroes instead of trashing their very identity.

Marvel benefited from great casting choices, starting with Robert Downey Jr, on down the line.

DC’s biggest weakness has been that Zach Snyder can’t stand Superman, which is why the last two movies have been tough to swallow.

Ugh. Snyder can take a long walk off a short pier. Man of Steel was almost bearable, except for the near total destruction of a city, but BvS: Dawn of Just what the hell was that? was a stinker.

529
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:44:24am

re: #525 I Would Prefer Not To

Do you have ANY evidence that he has sane employees? Any?

OK. You got me there.

530
Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:44:32am

re: #518 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

who the fuck is in charge of communications there?

Marla?

531
lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:45:03am

This is hilarious.

Twitter is eviscerating Trump/Pence for screwing up every aspect of the announcement.

This is a process thing.
Update Facebook, Twitter, campaign pages, etc. so that everything is rolled out simultaneously announcing the selection. None of the pages have updated to reflect Pence is on the ticket.

None.

Instead, the clown show reveals itself to be even worse than anyone can imagine. They are absolutely out of their element and think someone else will fix this.

There’s no training wheels Donny. You have to be ready from day 1, and this campaign shows you aren’t - and never will be ready.

532
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:45:07am

re: #530 Sir John Barron

Marla?

Baron?

533
Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:45:35am

For someone like Trump that has been on twitter forever, this is a killer:

534
makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:46:04am

So, a sax player that I play with is also an ad exec at Grey in NYC. He posted this - a letter from a co-worker who got mail from Trump begging for money.

(I blurred the name, even though it’s going viral on FB right now.)

Ouch.
535
BeachDem  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:46:06am

re: #440 Franklin

LOOOOLLLL

[Embedded content]

But wait, I thought Rage Furby had talked to Newt’s lawyer or something.

536
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:46:35am

re: #533 Franklin

For someone like Trump that has been on twitter forever, this is a killer:

[Embedded content]

Well, that would require Trump to think of someone other than himself.

537
nines09  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:46:47am

re: #518 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

who the fuck is in charge of communications there?

They were looking at the white supremacist / nazi sites. Thought he might be there.

538
Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:47:38am

re: #533 Franklin

For someone like Trump that has been on twitter forever, this is a killer:

That would have been 11 characters Trump couldn’t devote to himself.

539
Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:47:48am

re: #535 BeachDem

But wait, I thought Rage Furby had talked to Newt’s lawyer or something.

Rage Furby should sue someone.

540
ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:48:56am

With the announcement I felt I needed to get going with the Photoshopping of our newest Trump ticket holder. It’s my patriotic duty!

(By the way…did Pence just get a Friday media Trump Dump?)

I can be real blockheaded…just look at my record!
541
Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:49:17am

re: #536 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, that would require Trump to think of someone other than himself.

Yeah can’t do that.

542
Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:49:59am

re: #515 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I like the find in the thread posted above that he had people on his website sign up to receive a text of the announcement first.

Then never sent the text.

543
FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:51:38am
544
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:53:10am

Charles gets a h/t for the Track Palin thing:
joemygod.com

545
FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:54:52am

A little “adult” Pokemon humor

546
ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:54:53am

re: #489 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He looks like a B-movie villain.

Images of Krauthammer always remind me of those old images of dead outlaws propped up on a board outside the local sheriffs office for public viewing.

I know that it may not be nice to say it…but…

547
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:56:21am

nNevermind. Deleted to avoid looking like I can’t read English.

I’m going to bed. I must be tired.

548
Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:57:10am

Trump just made Christie look like a big stooge by picking Pence.

549
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:57:50am

re: #548 Tigger2

Trump just made Christie look like a big stooge by picking Pence.

Look like?

550
nines09  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:57:52am

re: #546 ObserverArt

Images of Krauthammer always remind me of those old images of dead outlaws propped up on a board outside the local sheriffs office for public viewing.

I know that it may not be nice to say it…but…

Well his brain died a long time ago. I think the body is catching up.

551
Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:58:08am

re: #546 ObserverArt

Images of Krauthammer always remind me of those old images of dead outlaws propped up on a board outside the local sheriffs office for public viewing.

I know that it may not be nice to say it…but…

Well, he’s a paraplegic and wherever he’s filming might not have the camera correctly positioned for his wheelchair, etc.

552
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:58:09am

re: #548 Tigger2

Trump just made Christie look like a big stooge by picking Pence.

Dunno, maybe he will get a job better suited to his capabilities, like Secretary of Transportation.

553
Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:58:24am

re: #518 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

who the fuck is in charge of communications there?

His caddy

554
calochortus  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:58:33am

re: #548 Tigger2

Trump just made Christie look like a big stooge by picking Pence.

Don’t worry, Freepers want him somewhere in the Cabinet. Can’t remember where (but I don’t think it was Transportation…)

555
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:58:50am

re: #453 Franklin

Haha

556
Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 8:59:07am

re: #549 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Look like?

We all knew he is but everyone didn’t.

557
stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:00:12am

re: #548 Tigger2

Trump just made Christie look like a big stooge by picking Pence.

I’m hoping that both Christie and Gingrich just kind of sink into the muck now. There’s no reason to pay attention to them any more until they’re indicted for something.

558
BeachDem  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:00:18am

re: #515 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Sarah Palin’s fans are taking the news with their usual aplomb (from c4p)

I have written many times here that in the big picture, I view Sarah Palin as God’s litmus test for this nation. With this development, I am not optimistic about our future as the powers that be continue down the path to God’s judgment.

(same poster suggests she’d be perfect as Trump’s chief of staff or—dog save us—press secretary)

559
gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:00:26am
560
Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:00:51am

re: #506 makeitstop

The impulsive sonofabitch couldn’t help himself.

It’s like he’s got a bad case of Twitter onanism.

TwitTourette

561
lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:01:25am

That logo… is amateurish. Did no one look at the optics, or did they hire the folks who did this:

562
FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:01:30am

I’m just gonna drop this here…
without comment…

563
Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:01:40am
564
Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:02:15am

re: #561 lawhawk

That logo… is amateurish. Did no one look at the optics, or did they hire the folks who did this:

Sweet baby dog, that logo.

565
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:02:28am

re: #485 FormerDirtDart

Pence has withdrawn from Indiana Governor’s election
dated yesterday, July 14th

Date stamped 11:05 this morning, so a little less than an hour before the deadline. THAT is why Trump announced this morning. He was gonna be scooped at noon otherwise.

That’s how disorganized and amateurish his campaign is - they didn’t realize this would happen, even though it was ALL OVER social media yesterday that Pence had to file by today. They didn’t spend the morning setting up all the stuff that should be triggered by the announcement.

566
ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:03:32am

re: #531 lawhawk

This is hilarious.

Twitter is eviscerating Trump/Pence for screwing up every aspect of the announcement.

This is a process thing.
Update Facebook, Twitter, campaign pages, etc. so that everything is rolled out simultaneously announcing the selection. None of the pages have updated to reflect Pence is on the ticket.

None.

Instead, the clown show reveals itself to be even worse than anyone can imagine. They are absolutely out of their element and think someone else will fix this.

There’s no training wheels Donny. You have to be ready from day 1, and this campaign shows you aren’t - and never will be ready.

They could have had those pages prepped and ready on a computer, then FileZilla them to the server via ftp connection and it would take all of 2 minutes…maybe less.

Probably the same with Facebook, though I haven’t used it in years. Just get a new post ready and approved prior and post it. Have the tweets written and in a text doc. Copy. Paste. Send.

567
Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:03:38am
568
I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:04:01am

re: #535 BeachDem

But wait, I thought Rage Furby had talked to Newt’s lawyer or something.

No, he talked to Newt’s liar. Not the same.

569
makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:04:44am

re: #561 lawhawk

That logo… is amateurish. Did no one look at the optics, or did they hire the folks who did this:

Ivanka made it! It was hanging on Trump’s fridge until the announcement.

(and, yeah. Terrible logo.)

570
Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:05:18am

Is that the official logo??

571
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:05:19am

re: #558 BeachDem

Sarah Palin’s fans are taking the news with their usual aplomb (from c4p)

I have written many times here that in the big picture, I view Sarah Palin as God’s litmus test for this nation. With this development, I am not optimistic about our future as the powers that be continue down the path to God’s judgment.

(same poster suggests she’d be perfect as Trump’s chief of staff or—dog save us—press secretary)

You know, that statement from the Palinite is a real puzzler. “Our future” looks bleak because God’s judgment will come, but that same person probably wants the Judgment Day because he/she expects to be called up to heaven. So it seems like they’d want Judgment Day to come kinda soon, so maybe just let the powers that be go ahead and do what they will.

This aspect of wanting/dreading Judgment Day by millennarians has always confused me.

572
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:05:31am

re: #561 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Wait - seriously? The dingus on Trump’s T is sticking into Pence’s P-hole?

573
Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:06:13am
574
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:06:30am

re: #571 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This aspect of wanting/dreading Judgment Day by millennarians has always confused me.

And don’t even get me going on all the Rapture nutbags…

575
Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:06:31am

Oh. my. god.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

576
Joe Bacon  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:07:21am

re: #548 Tigger2

Trump just made Christie look like a big stooge by picking Pence.

Just the thought of Christie getting even by spitting in Trump’s Big Mac…PRICELESS…

577
stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:07:34am

re: #563 Franklin

…Or, Trump’s initial is giggity giggity Pence’s initial.

Teabagging.

578
Ming5000  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:07:37am

re: #417 I Would Prefer Not To

Not bad for a guy who can’t get satisfaction.

579
Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:07:46am

But not from Trump campaign.

Still…

580
Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:08:11am

re: #548 Tigger2

Trump just made Christie look like a big stooge by picking Pence.

And he’s holding the official announcement tomorrow in NJ. (at one of his golf courses)

581
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:08:43am

New post-Brexit British coinage: the farthing, the ha’ppence, the penny, the tuppence, the thruppence and the trumppence.

582
calochortus  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:09:32am

re: #581 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

New post-Brexit British coinage: the farthing, the ha’ppence, the penny, the tuppence, the thruppence and the trumppence.

What about the comeupence?

583
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:09:34am

Is a trumpence sorta like a thruppence, but more bigly?

584
FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:09:37am

I mean, when your candidate’s initials are “T” & “P” your first objective has got to be avoiding any possible links to toilet imagery

585
Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:09:58am

re: #580 Stanley Sea

And he’s holding the official announcement tomorrow in NJ. (at one of his golf courses)

Sure he is that way he can pay himself.

586
Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:10:12am

re: #575 Jenner7

Oh. my. god.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is Elaine Bennis dancing bad.

587
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:10:34am

re: #582 calochortus

What about the comeupence?

that is coming out in November

588
Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:10:41am

Holy shit!

589
lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:11:36am

re: #584 FormerDirtDart

I mean, when your candidate’s initials are “T” & “P” your first objective has got to be avoiding any possible links to toilet imagery

With this campaign, these candidates, and the GOP? That’d be impossible.

590
Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:11:36am

re: #571 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You know, that statement from the Palinite is a real puzzler. “Our future” looks bleak because God’s judgment will come, but that same person probably wants the Judgment Day because he/she expects to be called up to heaven. So it seems like they’d want Judgment Day to come kinda soon, so maybe just let the powers that be go ahead and do what they will.

This aspect of wanting/dreading Judgment Day by millennarians has always confused me.

All based on a woman beater. Yeah.

591
calochortus  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:11:40am

re: #575 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Oh. my. god.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Seriously. It looks like it was designed by a 14 year old girl doodling in the margins of her notebook.
Said as someone who was once a 14 year old girl doodling in that notebook.

edit: and that’s aside from the, ummm, unfortunate imagery.

592
Joe Bacon  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:13:06am

Folks, I don’t know about you but I’d rather see “T” sticking it to “P” instead of sticking it to me…

593
Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:13:17am

re: #571 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

At some level, I think many of them realize they are bad people.

594
Shiplord Kirel  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:13:33am

re: #561 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Did some of my graduate work at North Texas State. When the powers that be proposed the name change to University of North Texas in 1986, they let the alumni vote on it. The main reason for the change was the alleged stigma of the “State” college name. The vote was something like 92-8% against, but the name was changed anyway, showing once again that alumni are only valuable for the occasional monetary contributions they toss into the plate. The change-over reportedly cost more a million dollars, with street signs, stationery, software, forms and documents, and all kind of minor things needing to show the new name. It all went from NTS to UNT.
One thing that did not change was the call letters of the campus radio station, KNTS.

595
Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:13:36am

Why is every logo blurry?

596
Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:13:51am

Good job by ESPN’s Jemelle Hill on calling out Lt. Gov. Patrick, while on her show today.

597
Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:13:59am

Furious Christie Refuses to Pick Up Trump’s Dry Cleaning

newyorker.com

598
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:14:22am

re: #591 calochortus

Seriously. It looks like it was designed by a 14 year old girl doodling in the margins of her notebook.
Said as someone who was once a 14 year old girl doodling in that notebook.

“Mrs. Michael Trump” written 50 different ways.

599
ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:14:30am

re: #557 stpaulbear

I’m hoping that both Christie and Gingrich just kind of sink into the muck now. There’s no reason to pay attention to them any more until they’re indicted for something.

This song goes out to Chris Christie and Newt Gingrich. Left standing all alone and crying…crying…crying!

Roy Orbison - Crying

600
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:15:06am

re: #593 Ziggy_TARDIS

At some level, I think many of them realize they are bad people.

I’m sure you’re right.

601
Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:15:28am

re: #571 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You know, that statement from the Palinite is a real puzzler. “Our future” looks bleak because God’s judgment will come, but that same person probably wants the Judgment Day because he/she expects to be called up to heaven. So it seems like they’d want Judgment Day to come kinda soon, so maybe just let the powers that be go ahead and do what they will.

This aspect of wanting/dreading Judgment Day by millennarians has always confused me.

try not to think about it too much. not meant to be logical.

/

602
Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:15:38am

Charles needs to modify his bumper sticker generator to include a roll of toilet paper as the official logo.

603
Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:15:44am
604
stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:16:33am

Can someone photoshop the very bottom part of the ‘T’ to be the bottom half of a circle rather than a little rectangle? For what we’ve put up with of the Trump campaign, we deserve the right to do something really juvenile.

605
Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:17:05am

re: #596 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Good job by ESPN’s Jemelle Hill on calling out Lt. Gov. Patrick, while on her show today.

Patrick is a super butthole.

606
stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:17:07am

re: #582 calochortus

What about the comeupence?

Ewww.

607
lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:17:16am

Things that happen when everyone knows you don’t pay your bills:

This logo is awful, and that’s the best thing that can be said about it.

608
Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:17:43am
609
Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:18:04am
610
Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:18:40am

re: #596 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Good job by ESPN’s Jemelle Hill on calling out Lt. Gov. Patrick, while on her show today.

611
Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:18:52am
612
Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:19:21am

Mike Pence arriving for his rub-down:

Race Bannon’s Doppleganger
613
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:20:03am

re: #607 lawhawk

Things that happen when everyone knows you don’t pay your bills:

[Embedded content]

This logo is awful, and that’s the best thing that can be said about it.

Looks like the same font and sizes used in eye charts.
And just as blurry.

614
CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:20:05am

re: #595 Stanley Sea

Why is every logo blurry?

Could be because they created it in a raster-based format instead of vector-based. The latter, which is what all proper logos are created with, would scale clearly to any size. It’s also entirely possible that they don’t have a clue how to optimize graphics for web use.

615
makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:20:08am

re: #595 Stanley Sea

Why is every logo blurry?

Like everything Trump-related, lack of focus.

616
lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:20:59am

Sweet jeebus. We are quite lucky that Thomas was not caught up in this. It would have been disastrous, and turned an already corrosive and fractured democratic process into one of sheer mayhem all because the GOP refuses to follow the law and give the President’s nomination their proper respect.

617
Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:21:33am

oh my

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:21:49am

re: #595 Stanley Sea

Why is every logo blurry?

I think someone cropped it from a screen grab of that Trump - RNC fundraising email.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:22:50am

re: #614 CuriousLurker

Could be because they created it in a raster-based format instead of vector-based. The latter, which is what all proper logos are created with, would scale clearly to any size. It’s also entirely possible that they don’t have a clue how to optimize graphics for web use.

It might also be people resaving and resizing images on Twitter in a nonloseless format.

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stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:22:58am

re: #599 ObserverArt

This song goes out to Chris Christie and Newt Gingrich. Left standing all alone and crying…crying…crying!

[Embedded content]

Video

This one too.

The Ones That You Love Lead You Nowhere

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:23:28am

OK, really going to bed now. Later, people!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:25:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:27:16am
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Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:27:28am

re: #616 lawhawk

Sweet jeebus. We are quite lucky that Thomas was not caught up in this. It would have been disastrous, and turned an already corrosive and fractured democratic process into one of sheer mayhem all because the GOP refuses to follow the law and give the President’s nomination their proper respect.

The panic over a 4-3 liberal majority that would have caused would have been incredible.

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stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:27:29am

re: #608 Franklin

Could we not go that route please? The TP logo is bad enough on its own.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:27:50am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:28:42am

re: #623 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

P, show me on the logo where the T touched you.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:28:44am

re: #624 Belafon

The panic over a 4-3 liberal majority that would have caused would have been incredible.

More than that. Obama would have been blamed, somehow. Not keeping Americans safe overseas, not getting rid of ISIS, regardless of this attacker’s affiliation. Wingnut outrage on steroids.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:29:00am

Looks like a Dry Willy to me.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:29:10am

re: #626 SoundGuy 2016

Crude humor behind the private:

mvQSw8RcPAO6ylFiSMTSvBVR/j5Vplzw1B83kiwWM8giX0A5BrGQ3MpGu2UDH3B6HLxBq60lmoAsyW358wk2pd1FB7sEnahw

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:29:22am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:30:04am

re: #623 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I can just imagine trump fuming right now as he reads all these tweets.

haha

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:31:38am

A reminder that the GOP is lining up behind Trump… they need to be held accountable for every batcrap insane utterance, every vile policy suggestion. Everything. Because they stand for the same things.

It takes Trump to make everyone realize how insane the GOP has been all along.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:34:49am

re: #625 stpaulbear

Could we not go that route please? The TP logo is bad enough on its own.

Fair enough. But if it starts showing up as part of a security uniform, I’m gonna get pretty worried.

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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:35:51am

LOL, don’t know why it wont enbed.

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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:37:47am

re: #632 Stanley Sea

I can just imagine trump fuming right now as he reads all these tweets.

haha

Trump lives in a bubble. He never sees things he doesn’t like. His “people” tell him about them.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:39:57am

re: #636 Skip Intro

Trump lives in a bubble. He never sees things he doesn’t like. His “people” tell him about them.

Or not. Don’t want to make him mad. You wouldn’t like him when he’s mad…

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Lidane  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:40:44am
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calochortus  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:41:13am

re: #637 makeitstop

Or not. Don’t want to make him mad. You wouldn’t like him when he’s mad

Fixed.

And now off to the dentist. (Just a cleaning. No big deal.)

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blueraven  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:43:41am
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Bear  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:44:45am

re: #639 calochortus

Hope it goes well. For me, cleaning hurts more than getting a filling.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:45:03am

Wikipedia has an interesting rundown of the possible Selections for Clinton’s VP.

Representative Xavier Becerra of California

Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey

Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julián Castro of Texas

Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts

Mayor of Los Angeles Eric Garcetti of California

Secretary of Labor Tom Perez of Maryland

Representative Tim Ryan of Ohio

Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack

Retired Admiral and former NATO commander James Stavridis

The ones in Bold I like for selection.

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:45:24am

re: #607 lawhawk

Things that happen when everyone knows you don’t pay your bills:

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This logo is awful, and that’s the best thing that can be said about it.

I had to touch it up a bit…make it more truthful.

What we have here is the big dick ticket.
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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:46:43am

re: #633 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

A reminder that the GOP is lining up behind Trump… they need to be held accountable for every batcrap insane utterance, every vile policy suggestion. Everything. Because they stand for the same things.

It takes Trump to make everyone realize how insane the GOP has been all along.

Speaking of people not saving files in a loseless format, that image on their site is almost 5 MBs because they saved it as a JPEG instead of a PNG.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:46:49am

re: #643 ObserverArt

I had to touch it up a bit…make it more truthful.

[Embedded content]

My eyes are going wonky looking at that logo. Is there a clean copy anywhere on the internet yet?

Or are they planning on fucking with my eyesight until November?

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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:47:31am

re: #640 blueraven

Always good to have TP when you feel the need to take a “Trump.”

Yeah, I stole that.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:48:30am

re: #645 makeitstop

My eyes are going wonky looking at that logo. Is there a clean copy anywhere on the internet yet?

Or are they planning on fucking with my eyesight until November?

“Is the image blurry?”
“Yes.”
Whack.
“Is the image blurry?”
“Yes.”
Whack.
“Is the image blurry?”
“No.”
“Exactly.”

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Lidane  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:49:23am

re: #642 Ziggy_TARDIS

I seriously doubt Hillary will poach from the Senate, especially in states with Republican governors. The Dems are interested in flipping the Senate in their favor.

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plansbandc  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:49:26am

re: #506 makeitstop

Isn’t that just exactly the kind of person we want to have the nuclear codes?

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Great White Snark  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:49:31am

Thanks for all the updings on this one above. Hopefully it gets to my network beyond LGF.

Because I learned the lesson Manzanar taught, and sure enough right after 9/11 a friend of mine was wrongly interred, I am just furious at Newt and Trump.

Feature wish-Wayback comment searches for our own comments. I’m sure I wrote that internment about it at the time.

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CleverToad  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:49:39am

Hubby looked at the news and said “We have the Dreamsicle ticket — white and orange!”

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:49:45am

I know it’s the Daily Fail, so bear with me.

They are reporting the Nice mass murderer was a Muslim, but never went to a mosque, drank, and ate pork. Not exactly the jihadi profile.

So, while we’ve got Peter King demanding we surveil mosques, this guy would never have been on the radar in that fashion. He would probably have passed the Gingrich test about Sharia law too.

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:49:54am

He’s become a dead-thread-turd-dropper-and-runner:

re: #331 Ojoe

It is time to physically fight these animals in an all-out war.

Logged out: Ojoe

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:50:29am
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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:52:15am

re: #645 makeitstop

My eyes are going wonky looking at that logo. Is there a clean copy anywhere on the internet yet?

Or are they planning on fucking with my eyesight until November?

I had to work to make the alterations I did look as blurred…and I probably needed to blur my additional type more.

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Great White Snark  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:52:35am

re: #643 ObserverArt

It’s the T.P ticket

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TedStriker  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:52:38am

re: #527 Dr Lizardo

Oh, I’ll be seeing it when that comes out here in the Czech Republic, believe me. I’m very much looking forward to it.

I’m also looking forward to Suicide Squad - I’m basically keeping my fingers crossed. I’m most interested to see Jared Leto’s interpretation of the Joker. Every actor, from Sid Caesar to the late Heath Ledger, has had his own take on the character, and I’ve little doubt that Leto’s promises to be interesting.

Umm, you mean Cesar Romero (the Joker in the 60’s TV Batman)?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:52:39am

re: #470 Sir John Barron

Trying to ensure a 0% share of the Hispanic vote.

According to Marist poll, Trump is already at zero percent with African-Americans in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

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nines09  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:53:08am
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danarchy  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:54:00am

re: #656 Great White Snark

It’s the T.P ticket

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why is that TP reflective?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:54:16am

re: #657 TedStriker

Umm, you mean Cesar Romero (the Joker in the 60’s TV Batman)?

Yep, you’re right. Oops.

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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:54:23am

Mike Pence: Sarah Palin Without The Charisma

It is too amazing to be true. Donald Trump charged Arthur Culvahouse, the same DC lawyer who vetted Sarah Palin, with vetting his VP choices.

And Trump has ended up picking Sarah Palin, without the charisma.

huffingtonpost.com

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:55:07am

re: #660 danarchy

why is that TP reflective?

The plastic wrapping on it I think.

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stpaulbear  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:55:40am

re: #654 gocart mozart

Wipe America clean again.

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nines09  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:55:53am

re: #663 Timothy Watson

The plastic wrapping on it I think.

John Wayne TP. Takes shit off no one.

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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:56:28am

Again I will point out that Trump has chosen a James Bond villain for his VP.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:56:54am

re: #653 wrenchwench

He’s become a dead-thread-turd-dropper-and-runner:

Logged out: Ojoe

Well isn’t that lovely.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:58:03am

re: #508 Dr Lizardo

I actually enjoyed it. GotG was one of Marvel’s not-so-universally-known properties (like say, Captain America or The Avengers or Iron Man), and it was nice to see it get a feature film. Marvel took sort of a gamble on that one, and it paid off handsomely, both commercially and critically.

I have to hand it to Marvel, they’ve been doing solid work bringing their comic book characters to the silver screen. Better than DC, at least thus far.

However from what I’ve read, it looks like Suicide Squad is going to be a big hit. The trailers have been fantastic.

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Lidane  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:58:29am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:58:40am

re: #666 Skip Intro

Again I will point out that Trump has chosen a James Bond villain for his VP.

Embedded Image

But Trump will be the one ordering red wine with fish.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2016 • 9:59:23am

re: #668 Big Beautiful Door

However from what I’ve read, it looks like Suicide Squad is going to be a big hit. The trailers have been fantastic.

Good to hear. I really want to see it, and I’ve been quite impressed by the trailers so far.

I’m out; off to enjoy a little nightlife. :) Later.

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:00:09am

re: #667 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well isn’t that lovely.

Well, no. You want ‘lovely’? I got fungus and tattoos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:01:22am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:02:09am

re: #672 wrenchwench

I’m heading to the state fair this weekend to admire the needlework competition winners. That’s going to be lovely.

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Lidane  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:02:59am

Ted Cruz’s college roommate:

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Lidane  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:03:47am
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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:03:51am

re: #674 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m heading to the state fair this weekend to admire the needlework competition winners. That’s going to be lovely.

For reals!

/sorry for playing ‘sarcasm challenged’

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:03:58am

re: #534 makeitstop

So, a sax player that I play with is also an ad exec at Grey in NYC. He posted this - a letter from a co-worker who got mail from Trump begging for money.

(I blurred the name, even though it’s going viral on FB right now.)

[Embedded content]

Awesome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:04:28am

re: #675 Lidane

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:04:52am

re: #676 Lidane

Typical response from a lib…oh wait.

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:05:16am

Rod Dreher retweeted this?! Odd.

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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:05:54am

re: #670 Timothy Watson

But Trump will be the one ordering red wine with fish.

Is it a coincidence that the villain is in From Russia With Love?

I think not.

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ObserverArt  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:06:24am

I reconsidered the update I did of the TP Trump Pence logo.

I figure we needed a bit of protection…

Practicing Safe Photoshopping of Logos
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:06:27am

re: #648 Lidane

Yeah, my thoughts too.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:07:40am

re: #679 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Red State headline (not gonna link to them): ALLEGED. Donald Trump Campaign Hired A Democrat To Design New Trump-Pence Logo ಠ_ಠ

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:07:46am

re: #558 BeachDem

Sarah Palin’s fans are taking the news with their usual aplomb (from c4p)

I have written many times here that in the big picture, I view Sarah Palin as God’s litmus test for this nation. With this development, I am not optimistic about our future as the powers that be continue down the path to God’s judgment.

(same poster suggests she’d be perfect as Trump’s chief of staff or—dog save us—press secretary)

White House press conferences would be soooo entertaining, and completely uninformative!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:08:19am

re: #653 wrenchwench

I’m sure there’s a recruiting station somewhere in his general area. Sign up Brave and Mighty One! Please. Then maybe someone who’s on their 5th tour can come the fuck home.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:08:52am

re: #677 wrenchwench

For reals!

/sorry for playing ‘sarcasm challenged’

I like the fungus though.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:09:15am
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Lidane  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:09:33am
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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:09:38am

Sec. Clinton’s campaign comms team is on fire:

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:09:42am

Dreher loves a good sodomy joke

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:09:44am

re: #689 CuriousLurker

Everything is f……

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:09:50am

re: #564 Sir John Barron

Sweet baby dog, that logo.

Reminds me of the brown circle of quality (logo Dogbert created with the bottom of his coffee cup).

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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:10:15am
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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:10:28am

re: #687 A Mom Anon

I’m sure there’s a recruiting station somewhere in his general area. Sign up Brave and Mighty One! Please. Then maybe someone who’s on their 5th tour can come the fuck home.

I’m only beginning to see the metaphor in his numerous old posts of a view of the world from on high.

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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:11:25am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:12:58am

re: #695 Franklin

Oh, there go all the fainting couches and clutching pearls at Fox. Michelle Malkin may go into spasms.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:14:37am
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Franklin  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:15:04am

When do the t-shirts go on sale?

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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:15:10am

No Warren. Hmmmmm….

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A Mom Anon  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:15:55am

re: #697 Jenner7
Poor Dan. He’s SHOCKED, Shocked I tell you to find out that wingnuts have no moral compass.

Yeah, save it Danny. You lied your ass off as the chief spokesasshole and main mouthpiece for Paul Bremer and for the Coalition Provisional Authority to everyone who would have you on the TV or read one of your bullshit reports. Bite me.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:18:04am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:20:47am

When asked if he had any comment on Pence, Josh Earnest said

No comment.

hahahaha

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CuriousLurker  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:20:54am

From last night:

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:21:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:21:22am

and not a single person there will notice his absence.

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Lidane  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:24:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:24:46am

re: #609 Jenner7

Hey, Charles, can we get a new Trump/Pence slogan generator?

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blueraven  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:26:10am

re: #704 Stanley Sea

When asked if he had any comment on Pence, Josh Earnest said

[Embedded content]

No comment.

hahahaha

Josh Earnest is the best Press Secretary in recent memory. Much better IMHO than Robert Gibbs was.

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:26:27am
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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:26:46am

Good news for Trump! People are saying that the Westboro Baptist Church will be sending speakers to fill in the slack next week.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:27:03am

re: #707 Backwoods_Sleuth

and not a single person there will notice his absence.

Who?

/

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:27:48am

re: #707 Backwoods_Sleuth

and not a single person there will notice his absence.

I remember the fond days when Dr. Ayn Rand Paul was the next big thing in the Tea Party GOP.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:27:55am

re: #617 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

oh my

I can’t unsee it now.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:29:38am

re: #701 Jenner7

No Warren. Hmmmmm….

None of the other potential veeps either. Just the headliners.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:29:44am

I bet Pence is the GOP establishment’s last attempt to get rid of Trump.

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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:30:25am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:30:28am

If you missed it, here’s the storyify of the tweets that described trump’s social media fail of the Pence announcement.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:32:57am

re: #718 Tigger2

Except a competent team would be worried about that.

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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:33:27am

Time for a new thread. When they get this long my pc barely functions here.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:33:42am

Dudes, we have spoiler tags for a reason.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:35:19am

re: #713 Sir John Barron

Who

You have to say it with…. feeling.

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BeachDem  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:38:07am
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Jenner7  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:41:35am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:42:09am

re: #323 Sir John Barron

So, in less serious matters, it now appears that, despite Trump having announced Tim Tebow as a convention night speaker, Tebow is in fact not speaking at Trump’s sshitstorm parade.

How fucking incompetent can a campaign be to include someone as a speaker that isn’t really speaking.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:42:36am

re: #652 lawhawk

I know it’s the Daily Fail, so bear with me.

They are reporting the Nice mass murderer was a Muslim, but never went to a mosque, drank, and ate pork. Not exactly the jihadi profile.

So, while we’ve got Peter King demanding we surveil mosques, this guy would never have been on the radar in that fashion. He would probably have passed the Gingrich test about Sharia law too.

Yep. Like I commented earlier. I could see this person as a criminal that got into drug/arms running and was on a mule run. Got spooked and tried to escape. Ended hitting a few people and saw no other chance than to keep going to try to escape since he knew he was already deep in shit.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:43:45am

Dana Bash is on CNN saying that last night at midnight trump was trying to get out of the Pence pick.

LOL

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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:44:59am

I hope some of the Bernie or Bust people are seeing what could happen if Trump wins,

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:45:31am

re: #728 Stanley Sea

Dana Bash is on CNN saying that last night at midnight trump was trying to get out of the Pence pick.

LOL

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:45:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:46:43am

re: #729 Tigger2

I hope some of the Bernie or Bust people are seeing what’s at stake if Trump wins,

[Embedded content]

I mentioned here at LGF yesterday that Pence had done that.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:46:44am

re: #728 Stanley Sea

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:47:00am

re: #725 Jenner7

Ivanka Trump’s rabbi backs out of RNC role. Had planned to deliver prayer condemning bigotry in the US.

That raises the question - did he demur on his own, or was the content of his prayer objectionable to Trump’s people?

I’m inclined to believe it was the latter.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:47:31am

re: #731 FormerDirtDart

That’s frickin’ hilarious. Pound that Pence. None the richer.

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:48:07am

Hey, now, let’s be realistic about this.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:48:10am

re: #734 makeitstop

That raises the question - did he demur on his own, or was the content of his prayer objectionable to Trump’s people?

I’m inclined to believe it was the latter.

Or, his congregation was so horrified at him speaking there, they threatened to send him packing if he went.

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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:48:13am

re: #732 Backwoods_Sleuth

I mentioned here at LGF yesterday that Pence had done that.

Missed that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:48:15am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:48:47am

re: #728 Stanley Sea

Dana Bash is on CNN saying that last night at midnight trump was trying to get out of the Pence pick.

LOL

Well, this sounds fabulous.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:49:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:49:22am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:49:37am

re: #733 lawhawk

Trumpwreck

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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:49:40am

New polls today:

Colorado: Clinton +8
Virginia: Clinton +9
North Carolina: Clinton +6
Florida: Clinton +7
Colorado: Clinton +6
Virginia: Clinton +7
North Carolina: Clinton +6
Florida: Clinton +5

The media responds by talking about polls from two days ago.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:50:16am

re: #730 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #733 lawhawk

He kept asking to do a new TV show to select the VP, but his aids told him “The Bachelorette” had already been done.

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makeitstop  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:50:29am

re: #737 lawhawk

Or, his congregation was so horrified at him speaking there, they threatened to send him packing if he went.

Also a possibility. I saw a comment somewhere that there was backlash among the congregation.

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BeachDem  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:51:12am

Ew—good reason to not pick Kaine

David Brat Eyes Senate Seat If Tim Kaine Gets VP Nod

“If that seat opens up in a special election or whatever, yeah I would consider it,” Brat told CNN. “Congress, Senate the executive stuff, that is the stuff I love.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

(I’m still laughing at this guy being referred to as “eye candy.” I guess—particularly in light of today’s logo reveal—different strokes…)

vanityfair.com

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Danack  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:51:14am

re: #734 makeitstop

That raises the question - did he demur on his own, or was the content of his prayer objectionable to Trump’s people?

I’m inclined to believe it was the latter.

I would not be surprised if they realised that they couldn’t guarantee what reception he was going to get.

Having a religious minority get booed at the Republican convention, would be just another nail in the coffin.

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plansbandc  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:51:37am

The master musician who created “Chocolate Rain” just followed me on twitter. I guess that means I have become a full citizen of the interwebs.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:52:22am
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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:52:32am

TrumpPence is an earworm for those of us old enough to have Mary Poppins as their first-ever in-theater movie experience.

Feed The Birds - Mary Poppins (Julie Andrews)

‘TrumpPence for a bag of crumbs’ is good.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:52:54am

re: #747 BeachDem

Congress, Senate the executive stuff, that is the stuff I love.”

OFFS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:53:47am

heh…

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:53:57am

re: #741 lawhawk

So, who’d drop that bit of dish about Trump?

My guess? Gov. Christie. Because why not. It’d be the perfect final act for him. Especially as the announcement is going to be in NJ, not IN or NY or FL.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:54:01am
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Varek Raith  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:54:24am

Trump Pence logo?

Beavis & Butthead laugh

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sagehen  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:55:40am

re: #689 CuriousLurker

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Why not ask the candidate for the money? It’s less than one-tenth of one percent of his self-declared net worth. Seem it’d be worth it to avoid international humiliation.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:55:56am

re: #756 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Trump Pence logo?

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Trump/Pence 2016
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BeachDem  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:56:47am

re: #752 Sir John Barron

OFFS

Yeah—what a strong, thoughtful statement. Reminded me of Bqhatevwr.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:57:59am

Trump supporter…

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Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:58:47am

re: #748 Danack

I would not be surprised if they realised that they couldn’t guarantee what reception he was going to get.

Having a religious minority get booed at the Republican convention, would be just another nail in the coffin.

Yeah, would piss off the supremacists.

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:58:53am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:59:23am

Whoops —> trumppence.gop

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 10:59:42am

re: #708 Lidane

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Not surprised, I bet Savage is a huge fan of Trump.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:00:11am

TP for my bunghole!!!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:00:33am

Some of us are at work, if you would please put the dick logos in a private comment box.

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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:01:32am

re: #760 lawhawk

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Trump supporter…

She could star in another TV series and bore them to death.

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Tigger2  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:03:39am

re: #766 Big Beautiful Door

Some of us are at work, if you would please put the dick logos in a private comment box.

That’s something that went over my head I haven’t worked in damn near 10 yrs. : ))

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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:04:22am
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jaunte  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:05:35am

“the debut single by American comedy troupe The Lonely Island featuring singer Justin Timberlake”
en.wikipedia.org

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Mattand  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:06:01am

So I’m scrolling through the comments seeing all of these comments about the Trump-Pence logo. I keep seeing this blurry graphic, thinking it was created as a rip on whatever the actual graphic is.

Then it hits: Oh. My. God. That’s the logo. Just… wow.

The thing that jumps out at me the most is the fourth red bar is slightly longer than rest, and is trying to fill the space under the ‘P’. It really makes the upper three red bars look really out of whack, and doesn’t relate to them at all.

I would bet both my drawing hand and my graphics tablet that Trump made that decision to move the bar over. It just shrieks of someone going “Don’t give me your shit about negative space! Move it over! It bugs me!”

Welcome to the world of graphic design…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:06:46am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:06:59am

Well, I guess that settles it.
It’s true.

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BeachDem  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:07:28am
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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:08:42am
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:13:09am

re: #772 Backwoods_Sleuth

Only up to Page 3, but it seems the King Fahad Mosque in Culver City, CA might be a problem.

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2016 • 11:15:07am

re: #758 Dr. Matt


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