NYT: Trump's Family Members Talked Him Into Mike Pence

NYT: Trump’s Family Members Talked Him Into Mike Pence

PoliticsJuly 2016 • Views: 45,633

The New York Times reports on the last minute behind-the-scenes wrangling to get Donald Trump to stick to his choice of far right anti-science nut sandwich Mike Pence.

His family had to make the argument that Pence wasn’t his new bestie, he was just some guy who might end up being the president of the United States. Not like the choice really matters.

In conversations late into the evening, Mr. Trump repeatedly hesitated over selecting Mr. Pence, according to people briefed on the tense deliberations, who insisted on anonymity to describe the confidential talks. Even as his emissaries reassured Mr. Pence, Mr. Trump fielded a last-ditch appeal from Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, another finalist, who once again pressed his own case.

Advisers and family members stressed over and over to Mr. Trump that he was selecting a running mate to unite the Republican Party, not a new best friend.

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791 comments

freetoken Jul 15, 2016 • 7:06:26pm

This is sort of turning into the Sopranos now?

jhncsy Jul 15, 2016 • 7:09:51pm

Do you think there’s a chance that Trump will screw this up? Maybe try to order Pence around like he did Christy?

Big Beautiful Door Jul 15, 2016 • 7:10:53pm

It simply isn’t possible for me to understand how the wingnut mind works. How can anyone listen to Donald Trump or Sarah Palin and say, “there is someone with the temperment and the ability to be the President!”

teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 7:11:18pm

Big Beautiful Door Jul 15, 2016 • 7:12:22pm

re: #2 jhncsy

Do you think there’s a chance that Trump will screw this up? Maybe try to order Pence around like he did Christy?

You think Pence won’t take commands like Christie? He has to; he has accepted his master’s collar.

Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 7:13:26pm

re: #1 freetoken

This is sort of turning into the Sopranos now?

Josh at TPM tweeted exactly that this morn. Look up his timeline.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 7:16:40pm

He tweets!

Look forward to Governor Mike Pence V.P. introduction tomorrow in New York City.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 16, 2016

teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 7:16:47pm

Team Hillary will have so much bludgeon material for television in the run up to November, it’s not even funny.

teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 7:17:40pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paul Manafort put that one out. Idiot forgot the MAGA hashtag. The boss won’t be happy, he’s not staying on brand!

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 7:19:05pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

and still not tagging Pence in his tweets.

goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 7:19:15pm

I don’t understand the self imposed early deadline. Trump could’ve announced his VP pick at the convention. That would’ve been the obviously theatrical thing to do. This bungled to shit, regret laden announcement makes no sense at all.

goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 7:19:55pm

Poor Chris Christie. Sucked the quarterback’s dick all semester only to have him ask some other girl to the prom.

— Molly Manglewood (@undeadmolly) July 16, 2016

Charles Johnson Jul 15, 2016 • 7:20:57pm

Just keep repeating to yourself: “He’s not my new best friend.” https://t.co/yzUqXUyGia https://t.co/HvIgu12oYt @realDonaldTrump

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 16, 2016

Cheechako Jul 15, 2016 • 7:21:22pm

And Christie thought he was BFFs with theDonald. How long till Pence gets pissed off and jumps off the Trump crazy train.

freetoken Jul 15, 2016 • 7:21:23pm

So, it would appear from posts on social media, that some folk are convincing themselves to vote for Drumpfskind because they are not really voting for Drumpfskind but rather for Pence, and they presume that Drumpfskind will be quickly impeached or resign leaving Pence as President.

Thus they claim they are not really voting for Drumpfskind even though they are voting for Drumpfskind.

Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 7:21:25pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

I don’t understand the self imposed early deadline. Trump could’ve announced his VP pick at the convention. That would’ve been the obviously theatrical thing to do. This bungled to shit, regret laden announcement makes no sense at all.

Pence had to er, pull out of the Gov race by noon today. That should’ve been taken into major consideration.

gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 7:22:11pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

I don’t understand the self imposed early deadline. Trump could’ve announced his VP pick at the convention. That would’ve been the obviously theatrical thing to do. This bungled to shit, regret laden announcement makes no sense at all.

Pence had a noon Friday deadline to run for re-election and if he filed he couldn’t run for VP.

I see Stanley beat me by one minute the bastard.

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 15, 2016 • 7:23:25pm

Trump’s key advisers are his kids? Wow. Just wow.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 7:23:28pm

Another layer to the VP drama: Christie re-pleaded his cause on Thursday night (even as Pence was in NY hotel room) https://t.co/T938p1habk

— Taniel (@Taniel) July 16, 2016

Big Beautiful Door Jul 15, 2016 • 7:24:10pm

re: #14 Cheechako

And Christie thought he was BFFs with theDonald. How long till Pence gets pissed off and jumps off the Trump crazy train.

He won’t. His political future depends on him being a good soldier.

Charles Johnson Jul 15, 2016 • 7:24:12pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

I don’t understand the self imposed early deadline. Trump could’ve announced his VP pick at the convention. That would’ve been the obviously theatrical thing to do. This bungled to shit, regret laden announcement makes no sense at all.

It makes sense if you realize Trump had to be dragged kicking and screaming into picking Mike Pence. He was throwing a tantrum, that’s the real reason for the delays.

Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 7:24:47pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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trump said nah nah, Atty General is what you want.

Shitshow.

goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 7:26:13pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Just in: Mike Pence is hosting a rally in Zionsville, Indiana tomorrow, per Trump camp. Trump himself is not listed as attending.

— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) July 16, 2016

Is Pence even going to be at the announcement in NY? This whole rollout just seems inept as fuck.

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 15, 2016 • 7:27:09pm

Sorry for OT, but the coup sure ain’t over yet. Military HQ in Ankara has come under attack. Not sure of the scale though. The coup guys have helicopters. Non-coup military has the F-16s.

gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 7:27:09pm

What is the T doing to that P? https://t.co/tDvYm2QJYi

— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) July 15, 2016

nines09 Jul 15, 2016 • 7:28:28pm

Iframe

Chris Christie, upon hearing he was passed over by Donald Trump as the VP pick, immediately showed up at this afternoons “Big Boy Toy” tryout at the BadaBoomBoom Room Gentleman’s Club and Leather Emporium on RT 9 outside Linden NJ.

Frankie Five Angels Jul 15, 2016 • 7:30:26pm

Who designated S.E. Cupp as intelligent?

teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 7:31:02pm

Gonna be a lot of hangings next week.

More than 130 people detained in relation to coup attempt: Turkish PM. More - https://t.co/hDyqHVTkyH pic.twitter.com/Cyv8NJRp1t

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) July 16, 2016

Charles Johnson Jul 15, 2016 • 7:31:43pm

Man, the comments at Chuck C. Johnson’s shitty blog are just brutal.

Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 15, 2016 • 7:32:25pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

But oh so richly deserved.

Big Beautiful Door Jul 15, 2016 • 7:32:30pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Man, the comments at Chuck C. Johnson’s shitty blog are just brutal.

Making fun of him?

goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 7:32:39pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

It makes sense if you realize Trump had to be dragged kicking and screaming into picking Mike Pence. He was throwing a tantrum, that’s the real reason for the delays.

Which I also don’t get. I mean I think Pence sucks but he’s arguably the best option Trump had. Christie is a disgusting gut-pile with the worst approval rating in in gubernatorial politics. Flynn, despite his military record, is a Democrat who nominally supports a right to abortion and Gingrich is some kind of unholy demi-lich who is married to the Chicken Lady from The Kids in the Hall.

There were no good options.

Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 7:32:59pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Man, the comments at Chuck C. Johnson’s shitty blog are just brutal.

re: the typo that still stands?

Big Beautiful Door Jul 15, 2016 • 7:34:37pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

Which I also don’t get. I mean I think Pence sucks but he’s arguably the best option Trump had. Christie is a disgusting gut-pile with the worst approval rating in in gubernatorial politics. Flynn, despite his military record, is a Democrat who nominally supports a right to abortion and Gingrich is some kind of unholy demi-lich who is married to the Chicken Lady from The Kids in the Hall.

There were no good options.

But Trump likes to keep the fat guy around; fat guys are funny and good for ratings! You don’t really expect Trump to understand why Pence was his least worst option, do you?

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 7:35:43pm

Hannity on THE WALL: “Is Mexico going to pay for it?”

Pence: “Absolutely.”

— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) July 16, 2016

Hannity: Was it the right decision to go into Iraq?

Pence: “I think that’s for historians to debate.”

— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) July 16, 2016

Things seem to be going smoothly…

Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 7:36:04pm

Old as in 14 hrs, but pertinent.

Amid running mate chaos, Donald Trump cancels his scheduled 60 Minutes appearance https://t.co/w6Whnb8zwL pic.twitter.com/7R6DWWwd8J

— Artzthings (@Artzthings) July 15, 2016

A Cranky One Jul 15, 2016 • 7:37:19pm

Trump seriously doesn’t have a clue. He sees no need to hire experts or advisers with real knowledge. Nope. He has a good brain, okay?

It’s highly unlikely that he’s spending any time right now in detailed briefings about the situation in Turkey. Or getting any real education about basic government function, world events, American international policy and treaties, the nuclear triad, etc., etc.

Instead, he’s got his kids just trying to make him act human. And failing, because they have no knowledge of the subject either.

Big Beautiful Door Jul 15, 2016 • 7:37:44pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Things seem to be going smoothly…

Very surprised that Hannity of all people is asking embarrassing questions.

freetoken Jul 15, 2016 • 7:38:16pm

re: #38 Big Beautiful Door

Very surprised that Hannity of all people is asking embarrassing questions.

But to Hannity they are not embarrassing.

Charles Johnson Jul 15, 2016 • 7:39:07pm

Chris Christie groveled and begged, to no avail https://t.co/yzUqXUyGia pic.twitter.com/Zk5HJIyT5a

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 16, 2016

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 15, 2016 • 7:40:15pm

It seems Rage Furby bet money on Newt being the VP pick. Wait a couple of weeks, and he’ll say he also put a side bet on Pence when it’s obvious Newt cannot ever be the VP pick.

goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 7:41:58pm

What Pence doesn’t understand is that he’s now Trump’s whipping boy. He’s going to be blamed for every perceived failure by the campaign.

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 16, 2016

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 7:42:03pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

Which I also don’t get. I mean I think Pence sucks but he’s arguably the best option Trump had. Christie is a disgusting gut-pile with the worst approval rating in in gubernatorial politics. Flynn, despite his military record, is a Democrat who nominally supports a right to abortion and Gingrich is some kind of unholy demi-lich who is married to the Chicken Lady from The Kids in the Hall.

There were no good options.

But, but, but…DEEP BENCH!!!!!

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 15, 2016 • 7:42:42pm

I picture Trump standing in front of a giant tacky gold mirror repeating the phrase “You talkin’ to me?” and trying different poses to make him seem more manly.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 7:42:42pm

these people…

If one knew nothing else about Jill Stein as a candidate, this kind of tells you everything you need to know. pic.twitter.com/2xKMRFf5Vt

— Alan Kestrel (@AlanKestrel750) July 15, 2016

gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 7:43:46pm

I thought I was tweeting in response to Gen. Flynn but it was in response to Herman Cain which makes it funnier. So that’s where that guy ended up. Sad.

What kind of moron retweets @THEHermanCain like it’s a credible source? Do you get your foreign policy advice from Sarah palin also?
— (((gocart mozart))) (@gocartmozart1) July 16, 2016

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 7:44:12pm

Well, Hell! I’m just now caught up, and missed Logogate and the Turkish coup….

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 7:44:43pm

Daddy’s Little Helper pic.twitter.com/J4mvZGrQhZ

— Animal Life (@MeetAnimals) July 16, 2016

Charles Johnson Jul 15, 2016 • 7:45:52pm

“He… is! He really is! I promise!” https://t.co/S9uryv6TgV @SopanDeb @GovPenceIN @seanhannity

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 16, 2016

calochortus Jul 15, 2016 • 7:45:56pm

re: #47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, Hell! I’m just now caught up, and missed Logogate and the Turkish coup….

Consider yourself lucky.

teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 7:47:08pm

re: #47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, Hell! I’m just now caught up, and missed Logogate and the Turkish coup….

The Turkey coup news was extremely fluid here at LGF. I was a bit overwhelmed with all the new stuff that was coming in. Best news gathering site during major world events, I tells ya!

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 7:47:44pm

Oh, well, better late than never:

No, that’s wrong, wait a minute….

Yeah, that’s the ticket!

teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 7:50:41pm

re: #52 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

.@realDonaldTrump will announce tomorrow his vice presidential pick, anti-science extraordinaire @GovPenceIN. https://t.co/RhJLnAZLOa

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) July 16, 2016

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 7:55:14pm

Trump just cannot catch a break lately. He delays his announcement of his VP, except he doesn’t really, releases a logo that’s met with universal ridicule, and the Turkish coup even bleeds attention from that, as it fades into the weekend.

By Monday, he’s stuck with a VP he didn’t want, the announcement is a snooze, the coup is over, and it’s obvious to all that the “jihadi” he declared WWIII over is just a hard-drinking, pork-eating ne’er-do-well who was pulling something illegal and tried to escape through a crowd.

freetoken Jul 15, 2016 • 7:56:25pm

re: #46 gocart mozart

Cain is of course pimping his own blog.

The source of the original information is here:

Cain though is really just screaming for attention. He’s trying to make is sound like the Obama administration doesn’t know about this or are not, in conjunction with the other signees of the pact, not doing anything. Probably because a handful of Republican senators want to make hay of the report to stir up the warmongering wingnuts in their constituencies.

The bottom line of the report is that during part of the rest of 2015, after the July 2015 agreement, in Germany it appears as if Iran continued to try and pursue procurements that could be used for missiles or a nuclear program.

goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 7:56:53pm

Another layer to the VP drama: Christie re-pleaded his cause on Thursday night (even as Pence was in NY hotel room) https://t.co/T938p1habk

— Taniel (@Taniel) July 16, 2016

Did Trump have Christie on speakerphone so Pence could listen in and snicker at him? Jesus this is some sad shit. https://t.co/bmw16GS8UJ

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 16, 2016

If there’s anything more pathetic than Chris Christie I don’t want to know what it is.

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 15, 2016 • 7:58:26pm

re: #54 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Trump just cannot catch a break lately. He delays his announcement of his VP, except he doesn’t really, releases a logo that’s met with universal ridicule, and the Turkish coup even bleeds attention from that, as it fades into the weekend.

$hillary sent Erdogan and the coup leaders email from one her 7,119 non-secure proxy servers. Well played.

HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 8:02:01pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

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If there’s anything more pathetic than Chris Christie I don’t want to know what it is.

Man that’s just sad.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 8:03:17pm

BREAKING Ankara #Gölbaşı Prosecutor’s Office says 42 dead in #coupattempt in Ankara. pic.twitter.com/F6YSr8AKFP

— CNN Türk ENG (@CNNTURK_ENG) July 16, 2016

PHOTO The moment a group of pro-coup soldiers raided @cnnturk and were later arrested. #TurkeyCoupAttempt pic.twitter.com/Bc4PrrgSN2

— CNN Türk ENG (@CNNTURK_ENG) July 16, 2016

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 8:04:45pm

Gov. John Kasich won’t release his delegates so they can back @realDonaldTrump. What GOP’ers say @Local12 at 11 pic.twitter.com/bhSIaiYFCl

— Angenette Levy (@Angenette5) July 16, 2016

goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 8:05:32pm

It’s funny because Christie already torched his bridge with the establishment GOP when he nihilistically destroyed Rubio’s campaign. Then he just debased the shit out of himself stumping for Trump, suffering all kinds of rank indignity and abuse at Donald’s hands, ending in outright begging for the VP slot and instead watching it be given to someone Trump is at best ambivalent about. Now Chris has nothing.

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 15, 2016 • 8:06:28pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

WTF is ‘release the delegates?’

What if I already smoked most of them?

HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 8:06:32pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

It’s funny because Christie already torched his bridge with the establishment GOP when he nihilistically destroyed Rubio’s campaign. Then he just debased the shit out of himself stumping for Trump, suffering all kinds of rank indignity and abuse at Donald’s hands, ending in outright begging for the VP slot and instead watching it be given to someone Trump is at best ambivalent about. Now Chris has nothing.

Wasn’t that long ago that he was supposed to be the GOP’s future. Ha, that was a good one.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 8:08:06pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

It’s funny because Christie already torched his bridge with the establishment GOP when he nihilistically destroyed Rubio’s campaign. Then he just debased the shit out of himself stumping for Trump, suffering all kinds of rank indignity and abuse at Donald’s hands, ending in outright begging for the VP slot and instead watching it be given to someone Trump is at best ambivalent about. Now Chris has nothing.

I’m a terrible person, because I’m literally glowing with pleasure over his fate.

thedopefishlives Jul 15, 2016 • 8:08:11pm

Evening Lizardim.

A Cranky One Jul 15, 2016 • 8:08:35pm

re: #62 SoundGuy 2016

WTF is ‘release the delegates?’

What if I already smoked most of them?

Don’t bogart the delegates, my friend.

HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 8:09:05pm

re: #64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m a terrible person, because I’m literally glowing with pleasure over his fate.

It’s a political career. It’s not like he’s dead or anything like that. I see nothing wrong with taking joy with Christie’s fall.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 8:10:08pm

Tom and Jerry were spotted at Subway, and they had their eyes on some cold cuts https://t.co/Ty6lnWxuZx pic.twitter.com/FIZ7If9Bmr

— Rare (@Rare) July 16, 2016

EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 8:11:08pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

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If there’s anything more pathetic than Chris Christie I don’t want to know what it is.

We were apparently spared the ultimate horror —- Chris Christie on YouTube trying to win Trump’s affection with a talent demonstration.

A Cranky One Jul 15, 2016 • 8:11:41pm

re: #64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m a terrible person, because I’m literally glowing with pleasure over his fate.

It’s amusing to picture the bully groveling.

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 15, 2016 • 8:12:56pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“You’ll hear from both of them.”

lmao

EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 8:13:07pm

re: #64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m a terrible person, because I’m literally glowing with pleasure over his fate.

This is some prime schadenfreude that can be enjoyed with no guilt at all.

Chris Christie is an enormous asshole who has been royally jerked around by another enormous asshole.

HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 8:14:05pm

re: #72 EPR-radar

This is some prime schadenfreude that can be enjoyed with no guilt at all.

Chris Christie is an enormous asshole who has been royally jerked around by another enormous asshole.

Exactly.

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 15, 2016 • 8:16:09pm

Somehow this resonates with me right now:

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 8:18:05pm

re: #69 EPR-radar

At least not a swimsuit competition.

teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 8:18:34pm

re: #74 SoundGuy 2016

I’m so glad I saw that movie in its uncut form the first time.

Great White Snark Jul 15, 2016 • 8:19:27pm

pic.twitter.com/TgWnn8R1Pz

— pali andjeo (@ivanacaki) July 13, 2016

This pic uses one of my favorite techniques. Except pulls it off better than I ever have.

MsJ Jul 15, 2016 • 8:20:58pm

re: #74 SoundGuy 2016

Click to Reveal

It’s like Rock Paper Scissors with body parts!

:-D

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 15, 2016 • 8:21:39pm

Photos from the inside of the Turkey’s parliament building shows how big the damage is. [h/t @mkosemek] pic.twitter.com/fsejn2bour

— Ahmet A. Sabancı (@ahmetasabanci) July 16, 2016

EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 8:25:50pm

re: #75 gocart mozart

At least not a swimsuit competition.

I was thinking more operationally, perhaps something along the lines of Chris Christie demonstrating an ability to suck a golf ball through a garden hose. I’m sure Trump could find a good use for that talent.

teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 8:27:21pm

re: #65 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim.

EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 8:27:24pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t that long ago that he was supposed to be the GOP’s future. Ha, that was a good one.

The GOP’s future is Trump fan boys and wannabes.

A Cranky One Jul 15, 2016 • 8:27:27pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

I was thinking more operationally, perhaps something along the lines of Chris Christie demonstrating an ability to suck a golf ball through a garden hose. I’m sure Trump could find a good use for that talent.

Christie hasn’t already demonstrated his ability to suck up?

whitebeach Jul 15, 2016 • 8:28:17pm

Last sane person to leave the Republican Party, please don’t forget to brick up the freakin door.

EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 8:28:23pm

re: #83 A Cranky One

Christie hasn’t already demonstrated his ability to suck up?

//

Trump’s attention span is short enough to justify frequent reminders.

EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 8:30:00pm

re: #84 whitebeach

Last sane person to leave the Republican Party, please don’t forget to brick up the freakin door.

The last sane person has long ago left the Republican party, and obviously didn’t lock the door.

As a result, the party of Lincoln has a serious infestation of neo-Confederate racists, and that’s just one of their innumerable problems.

Anymouse Jul 15, 2016 • 8:30:05pm

Wonkette, writing about the Republican convention falling apart, made mention of Mr. Johnson here at Little Green Footballs, including a link to his article about Track Palin being remanded to jail.

wonkette.com

thedopefishlives Jul 15, 2016 • 8:31:18pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

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Christ Almighty, the world’s gone mad!

“Yes, but it’s a short trip, if we’re honest with ourselves.”

…Fuck. Internal narrative, you’ve got me there.

teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 8:32:20pm

12.5 hours after Trump announced Pence, the only mentions on his site are a twitter feed & two press releases. pic.twitter.com/ZfgyPehcky

— Dennis Mersereau (@wxdam) July 16, 2016

The Donald™ only hires the best people because he has the best brain and the most words, the best words.

FormerDirtDart Jul 15, 2016 • 8:35:00pm

Hmmm…
Will the addition of Pence to the ticket be an impediment to fund raising?

“…Pence is a sitting governor. That means contributions to the ticket will be limited by the SEC’s 2010 pay to play rule, also known as Rule 206(4)-5 of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940, as amended. The rule prevents “SEC registered investment advisers” from contributing more than $250-$350 to state or local officials who could select the firm that would manage a state or local pension fund, or some part of it…”

Unless Novak is missing some big part of this (no reason to believe that) this seems like a very very big deal >> https://t.co/WnDLZ7NDEi

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 16, 2016

TedStriker Jul 15, 2016 • 8:36:10pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

It’s funny because Christie already torched his bridge with the establishment GOP when he nihilistically destroyed Rubio’s campaign. Then he just debased the shit out of himself stumping for Trump, suffering all kinds of rank indignity and abuse at Donald’s hands, ending in outright begging for the VP slot and instead watching it be given to someone Trump is at best ambivalent about. Now Chris has nothing.

And it’s glorious.

Kragar Jul 15, 2016 • 8:36:17pm

Unless Novak is missing some big part of this (no reason to believe that) this seems like a very very big deal >> https://t.co/WnDLZ7NDEi

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 16, 2016

FormerDirtDart Jul 15, 2016 • 8:37:34pm

re: #92 Kragar

Look up ;)

Kragar Jul 15, 2016 • 8:38:25pm

re: #93 FormerDirtDart

No, and you can’t make me.

So, how long before @realDonaldTrump publicly insults or belittles Mike Pence? I give it a week, tops

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 16, 2016

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 8:38:53pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

Hmmm…
Will the addition of Pence to the ticket be an impediment to fund raising?

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re: #92 Kragar

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What part of “self-funded” don’t you libtards understand?

Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 8:39:26pm

re: #57 SoundGuy 2016

$hillary sent Erdogan and the coup leaders email from one her 7,119 non-secure proxy servers. Well played.

The sick thing is that some people actually think along those lines:

The arsonist attack on the Reichstag (parliament) in 1933 was what Hitler’s power. Similar I feel. #fakecoup #turkey pic.twitter.com/rco9RqhpvD

— Bob Labla (@RealBobLabla) July 16, 2016

goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 8:40:10pm

Oh wow, it looks like Trump really hamstrung his own fundraising efforts by picking Pence. https://t.co/RndV14Mpg5 pic.twitter.com/WQxCCKi9vy

— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 16, 2016

gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 8:41:02pm

B list celebrity fight.

@realDonaldTrump no you don’t u tried to get out of it all night last night
— Montel Williams (@Montel_Williams) July 16, 2016

Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 8:41:50pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

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The question is: How many firms actually care about Indiana’s pension system. I’d wager most of them don’t.

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stpaulbear Jul 15, 2016 • 8:41:51pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

It’s funny because Christie already torched his bridge with the establishment GOP when he nihilistically destroyed Rubio’s campaign. Then he just debased the shit out of himself stumping for Trump, suffering all kinds of rank indignity and abuse at Donald’s hands, ending in outright begging for the VP slot and instead watching it be given to someone Trump is at best ambivalent about. Now Chris has nothing.

Doesn’t he have indictments to look forward to?

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 8:41:56pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

It’s funny because Christie already torched his bridge with the establishment GOP when he nihilistically destroyed Rubio’s campaign. Then he just debased the shit out of himself stumping for Trump, suffering all kinds of rank indignity and abuse at Donald’s hands, ending in outright begging for the VP slot and instead watching it be given to someone Trump is at best ambivalent about. Now Chris has nothing.

Mary Pat is beyond pissed. As she should be.

Dog to be married to a political asshole. Karma for a murderous past life or something,

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thedopefishlives Jul 15, 2016 • 8:41:57pm

re: #98 gocart mozart

B list celebrity fight.

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JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!

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SteelPH Jul 15, 2016 • 8:42:21pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

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No TV and no beer make Homer something something…

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Big Beautiful Door Jul 15, 2016 • 8:43:03pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

The question is: How many firms actually care about Indiana’s pension system. I’d wager most of them don’t.

Another question is how many want to throw their money away donating it to Trump?

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teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 8:43:11pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

17 days! My oh my! Dark_Falcon, how are you?

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FormerDirtDart Jul 15, 2016 • 8:43:34pm

On CNN now, footage of what looks like coup troops surrendering on Bosphorus bridge

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jaunte Jul 15, 2016 • 8:44:39pm

Not picked as VP, Newt leaks that he was asked for a decade of taxes. Trump has refused to release any taxes. https://t.co/KAgKTXx6zF

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) July 15, 2016

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teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 8:45:04pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

Can you say “blue map”?

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jaunte Jul 15, 2016 • 8:45:24pm

Incredible live footage on @cnn of Turkish pro coup military forces surrendering with their hands raised in the air pic.twitter.com/k8blPnYcGs

— Ramy Yaacoub (@RamyYaacoub) July 16, 2016

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William Lewis Jul 15, 2016 • 8:45:44pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 8:46:11pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

17 days! My oh my! Dark_Falcon, how are you?

I’m well, but things were ‘hot’ enough domestic news-wise that I felt it wise to give folks here space.

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Great White Snark Jul 15, 2016 • 8:47:57pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

On CNN now, footage of what looks like coup troops surrendering on Bosphorus bridge

Dead men walking. Sad to say but…

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Jenner7 Jul 15, 2016 • 8:48:12pm

Hey Dark. We missed you. :)

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FormerDirtDart Jul 15, 2016 • 8:48:30pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

The question is: How many firms actually care about Indiana’s pension system. I’d wager most of them don’t.

The problem is there is such a co-mingling of funds/accounts in the industry that it would likely take rooms of lawyers to confirm there wasn’t a chance of a connection

@joshtpm It is a big deal. In the industry & we are told we can’t give money to incumbents, even if running for VPhttps://t.co/3uxrwQOEyp

— Tim Wegener (@timwegener) July 16, 2016

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 8:48:40pm

re: #94 Kragar

No, and you can’t make me.

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Pence signed a deal with a devil.

Shitshow

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thedopefishlives Jul 15, 2016 • 8:48:51pm

re: #111 Dark_Falcon

I’m well, but things were ‘hot’ enough domestic news-wise that I felt it wise to give folks here space.

Probably a good idea, but you gave us a good scare. Would’ve been nice to let us know ahead of time. Nevertheless, glad you’re well.

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 8:48:56pm

If you don’t know what it means, don’t Google it.

.@realDonaldTrump sold Miss America and bought #LemonParty https://t.co/7n1T2wgKDE

— Sinead O’Rebellion (@DWhitINger) July 16, 2016

.@realDonaldTrump It’ll be a real party! #LemonParty pic.twitter.com/chluzvAThH
— ThatDickScott (@ThatDickScott) July 16, 2016

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teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 8:49:51pm

re: #111 Dark_Falcon

I’m well, but things were ‘hot’ enough domestic news-wise that I felt it wise to give folks here space.

You’re talking about Philando Castille, Alton Sterling, and Dallas, right?

Well, okay. I won’t infer anything right now.

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 8:50:57pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

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Idiocy.

What you get when you have no fucking campaign.

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 8:51:38pm

These soldiers are going to pay the ultimate price. I’m surprised that they are surrendering. #Turkey https://t.co/0neELUVBPL

— Anthony Labelle (@1AnthonyLabelle) July 16, 2016

He’s not kidding. If it were me, I’d take a dive off the side of the bridge. At least that way its over quick.

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 8:52:12pm

BREAKING: 42 people killed in attacks in Ankara, Turkey amid ongoing military uprising https://t.co/WSSsG5v2C9 pic.twitter.com/Vieoyvq2vg

— CNN (@CNN) July 16, 2016

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HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 8:52:56pm

re: #121 gocart mozart

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Was afraid of that.

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Great White Snark Jul 15, 2016 • 8:53:41pm

Most of the dead in Turkey said to be police hit by helicopter fire near the parliament building. So needless.

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 8:55:20pm

re: #118 teleskiguy

You’re talking about Philando Castille, Alton Sterling, and Dallas, right?

Well, okay. I won’t infer anything right now.

That’s what I mean.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Jul 15, 2016 • 8:57:17pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

This is the General Mode of thought on FARK.

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 8:59:20pm

re: #125 Ziggy_TARDIS

This is the General Mode of thought on FARK.

If you’ll pardon me for saying so I’d say that’s FARKing nuts.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 8:59:51pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea

Idiocy.

What you get when you have no fucking campaign.

I might die laughing if Trump tries to take back the VP pick because of this.

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goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 8:59:59pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

The question is: How many firms actually care about Indiana’s pension system. I’d wager most of them don’t.

It’s a 22 Billion dollar system invested broadly in the market. They don’t have to care about it in particular to be affected.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 9:00:14pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea

Idiocy.

What you get when you have no fucking campaign.

The incompetence just never stops, does it? I’m afraid everybody in the Clinton campaign is going to do themselves an injury from laughing and be unable to continue.

Monty Python’s Flying Circus - World’s Funniest Joke

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 9:01:20pm

re: #127 EPR-radar

I might die laughing if Trump tries to take back the VP pick because of this.

Pence fucking praised Hillary on Libya. They did zero research.

I think Christie was always the smartest guy in the room & they discarded him.

I hope he goes OFF.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:01:27pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

If you’ll pardon me for saying so I’d say that’s FARKing nuts.

The Clinton involvement part is nuts.

Staging a fake coup would seem to be in character for Erdogan, so that isn’t nuts on its face.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Jul 15, 2016 • 9:02:03pm

re: #131 EPR-radar

Yeah, it is the second part they are referring to.

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 9:03:50pm

@Nero
Your goat orgie photos are too offensive for Twitter and also not newsworthy no matter how proud you are of your new endurance record
— (((gocart mozart))) (@gocartmozart1) July 16, 2016

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HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 9:03:54pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

Pence fucking praised Hillary on Libya. They did zero research.

I think Christie was always the smartest guy in the room & they discarded him.

I hope he goes OFF.

Is that the reason why Coulter and co are furious about the pick or is it the Medicaid expansion? But yeah they kind of shot themselves in the foot there.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:04:05pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

Pence fucking praised Hillary on Libya. They did zero research.

I think Christie was always the smartest guy in the room & they discarded him.

I hope he goes OFF.

I agree that Christie is the smartest of the bunch (low bar, there), and he might decide he has nothing left to lose by dishing the dirt.

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 9:05:32pm

re: #127 EPR-radar

I might die laughing if Trump tries to take back the VP pick because of this.

If its a big issue, then Pence might end up resigning as governor.

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Ziggy_TARDIS Jul 15, 2016 • 9:06:31pm

Looking at Casualty list in Nice, I can count, just off of nationality, I count no fewer than 9 Muslim Victims (3 Each from Algeria, Tunisia, and Morocco).

Not counting 1 from Kazakhstan, and the people from France, or the unknown victims.

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teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 9:06:41pm

re: #133 gocart mozart

I’m going to fucking regret this, I’ll bet.

@Nero Major Media Outlet? You’re more delusional than I thought. Breitbart “News” is propaganda, not news.

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) July 16, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 9:06:55pm

Trump is going to force Pence to resign his governorship, he’s a lame duck anyway, but I doubt he’s eager to just give up the perks of office. There’s also the intrinsically bad optics of a resignation speech and the memories of Palin that will evince. Not a good look.

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Great White Snark Jul 15, 2016 • 9:08:07pm

So if accusations against Gulan are accurate, would that cleric here perhaps get arrested and extradited?

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Ziggy_TARDIS Jul 15, 2016 • 9:09:28pm

re: #140 Great White Snark

Yes.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:09:34pm

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

Trump is going to force Pence to resign his governorship, he’s a lame duck anyway, but I doubt he’s eager to just give up the perks of office. There’s also the intrinsically bad optics of a resignation speech and the memories of Palin that will evince. Not a good look.

Trump is so classy. He uses everyone around him like Kleenax. Truly a perfect respresentative of the yahoos that support him.

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majii Jul 15, 2016 • 9:10:18pm

re: #140 Great White Snark

I’m thinking he won’t, unless he’s broken a law in Pennsylvania or a federal law. He may end up being surveilled by the FBI, though in the interest of national security.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:12:29pm

re: #133 gocart mozart

Is the vile Milo Y really trying to tweet photos of a goat orgy while claiming it’s news? (Not on Twitter here).

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 9:12:30pm

@crashgear Please delete your account and then go soak your head. #blocked #Turkey

— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) July 16, 2016

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Great White Snark Jul 15, 2016 • 9:13:05pm

re: #141 Ziggy_TARDIS

re: #143 majii

Interesting to watch. I’d guess an alphabet soup of US and Turkish agencies already were watching this guy.

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 9:14:25pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

If its a big issue, then Pence might end up resigning as governor.

Bummer for him.

He made a fool’s move.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:14:57pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

It’s way the hell too early for anyone to be making sweeping statements about the news from Turkey.

The fact that it didn’t follow the normal pattern of a Turkish military coup seems to be the main significant fact that’s presently available.

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Kragar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:15:13pm

re: #133 gocart mozart

When did you stop working for Breitbart and who would hire you with your rep? @Nero

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 16, 2016

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 9:16:37pm

re: #133 gocart mozart

Oh. My. God. ahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahhaahah!!!!

“NEW Milo Yiannopoulos Photo Shoot Revealed Ahead Of RNC”https://t.co/syg64iUjL2 pic.twitter.com/W8QhB8ar2t

— Milo Yiannopoulos ひ✘ (@Nero) July 14, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 9:17:53pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

Oh. My. God. ahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahhaahah!!!!

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If he’s going for the Michael Jackson look, he’s not white enough….

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teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 9:18:48pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

teleskiguy is not impressed with Milo’s photoshoot roll-out. teleskiguy thinks the third person talk is rather foolish and self-aggrandizing. teleskiguy is pointing and laughing.

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HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 9:19:03pm

re: #151 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If he’s going for the Michael Jackson look, he’s not white enough….

I thought it was the Mike Pence look.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:19:04pm

re: #151 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If he’s going for the Michael Jackson look, he’s not white enough….

The nose would need to be sharpened up quite a bit as well.

In any case, is Milo Y’s raging narcissism supposed to be the news here?

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 15, 2016 • 9:19:19pm

Nero is now Frosty. Somehow it all makes sense.

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 9:19:36pm

re: #148 EPR-radar

It’s way the hell too early for anyone to be making sweeping statements about the news from Turkey.

The fact that it didn’t follow the normal pattern of a Turkish military coup seems to be the main significant fact that’s presently available.

Social media plus the fact that Erdogan was aware this might happen and had counter measures and a plan.

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majii Jul 15, 2016 • 9:20:07pm

re: #151 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What turns me off about the pics is the impression I get that from the way he looks at the camera, he thinks he’s all that and ten bags of chips when he’s not.

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HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 9:21:15pm

re: #157 majii

What turns me off about the pics is the impression I get that from the way he looks at the camera, he thinks he’s all that and ten bags of chips when he’s not.

See, also, Johnson, C, Charles.

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jaunte Jul 15, 2016 • 9:21:35pm

re: #151 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If he’s going for the Michael Jackson look, he’s not white enough….

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Joe Bacon Jul 15, 2016 • 9:22:09pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

Oh. My. God. ahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahhaahah!!!!

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Let me guess—he was posing while he was playing music from The Village People…

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jaunte Jul 15, 2016 • 9:22:45pm

Nero Is Sang! Rush Hour 6

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:22:49pm

re: #157 majii

What turns me off about the pics is the impression I get that from the way he looks at the camera, he thinks he’s all that and ten bags of chips when he’s not.

Raging narcissism. You can tell that this is a man who preens extensively in front of a full length mirror every day. Stark naked. And then proceeds to let the shitty attitude from that bit of self-worship infect everything else he does.

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Kragar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:23:07pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

caption this photo pic.twitter.com/PCwosU8nFj

— The National Nerd (@Moon_Clinic) July 15, 2016

“I’m just a boy, standing in front of the world, asking it to act like a douchebag.” @Moon_Clinic

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 15, 2016

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:24:03pm

re: #156 Dark_Falcon

Social media plus the fact that Erdogan was aware this might happen and had counter measures and a plan.

I think the more fundamental question is the attitude of the senior military leaders.

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HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 9:24:52pm

re: #163 Kragar

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Son of Mugatu.

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No Depression Jul 15, 2016 • 9:24:59pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

Oh. My. God. ahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahhaahah!!!!

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I like to imagine that he was playing this on a loop in his head during the shoot:

Madonna - Vogue (video)

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Joe Bacon Jul 15, 2016 • 9:25:16pm

@Moon_Clinic The wheel in my head still spins but the hamster died…

— josephebacon (@josephebacon) July 16, 2016

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darthstar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:25:28pm

I’m kind of glad the coup failed, but I’m not looking forward to the feigned outrage over the public executions that are coming. #Turkey

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 16, 2016

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 9:25:43pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

Oh. My. God. ahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahhaahah!!!!

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Well, at least the fascist admirer has the right piping on his shoulder straps:

Lemon Yellow = Communications.

Historic factoid meets wingnut freak. Stupidity Ensues.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:26:00pm

re: #163 Kragar

“Warning. A Class S douchebag has escaped from the containment facility. Do not approach unless you want to be offended so deeply that you lose all faith in humanity.”

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Charles Johnson Jul 15, 2016 • 9:26:19pm

I see @Nero’s whining like a pathetic crybaby again that Twitter is “censoring” him.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 16, 2016

Twitter should just call @Nero’s bluff and do this. The place would be vastly improved without him spreading hatred. pic.twitter.com/Uo53l4NkhP

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 16, 2016

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jaunte Jul 15, 2016 • 9:27:32pm

re: #163 Kragar

“You’re in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise…”

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 15, 2016 • 9:27:43pm

Milo and his 3 crosses on his necklace. Entirely theatrics at this point.

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 9:28:11pm

re: #166 No Depression

I like to imagine that he was playing this on a loop in his head during the shoot:

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Video

Wonderful excuse for me to watch that again.

Gracias.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 9:28:18pm

re: #164 EPR-radar

I think the more fundamental question is the attitude of the senior military leaders.

It seems as if this was a mid-level coup against both the government and the military high command. Doomed from the get-go. Even more inept than the coup against Gorbachev.

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Joe Bacon Jul 15, 2016 • 9:29:20pm

Milo has that “Please Scotty, Beam Me Up” look on his face…

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:31:10pm

re: #176 Joe Bacon

Milo has that “Please Scotty, Beam Me Up” look on his face…

I think of it more as a psychopath attempting a soulful look and failing miserably. Then again, I’m biased by knowing that Milo Y is an asshole and a disgrace to the species.

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bratwurst Jul 15, 2016 • 9:32:42pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

Oh. My. God. ahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahhaahah!!!!

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How many journalists prepare for a political convention by getting some glamor shots done complete with wardrobe changes?

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 9:34:11pm

Is the vile Milo Y really trying to tweet photos of a goat orgy while claiming it’s news? (Not on Twitter here).

The claim has been made on Twitter, who am I to question it.

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 9:34:31pm

John Lennon & Julian Lennon on the set of “Happy Days.” pic.twitter.com/Qm5Hgqi2l7

— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) July 16, 2016

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whitebeach Jul 15, 2016 • 9:35:43pm

re: #176 Joe Bacon

Milo has that “Please Scotty, Beam Me Up” look on his face…

I see it as more of a “Preparation H: It’s Not Just For Breakfast Anymore” look.

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 9:36:01pm

re: #178 bratwurst

How many journalists prepare for a political convention by getting some glamor shots done complete with wardrobe changes?

None that I know of, but Milo’s self-love is so overweening it puts Paris Hilton in the shade.

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bratwurst Jul 15, 2016 • 9:37:55pm

We seem destined to end up with something like a worst case scenario out of all of this once the smoke clears:

If Erdogan survives, he will emerge stronger and more determined to crack down on opponents https://t.co/8T4rcBZD7e pic.twitter.com/xlAA8NE3YB

— The Economist (@TheEconomist) July 16, 2016

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 9:38:19pm

RT @owillis yo mike pence im a let you finish but joe biden had the best vpotus introduction of all time! pic.twitter.com/1nG6dCarx6

— Kat 4 Obama (@Kat4Obama) July 16, 2016

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Lidane Jul 15, 2016 • 9:39:51pm

Trump SuperPAC falls just $19,955,000 short of $20M fundraising goal. pic.twitter.com/8QKtd2GhjQ

— Marcus Hawkins (@HawkinsUSA) July 16, 2016

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HappyWarrior Jul 15, 2016 • 9:41:06pm

re: #185 Lidane

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Ha.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:41:32pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

It gets worse. Much, much worse. Apparently Milo Y thinks of himself as a “burgeoning cultural icon”. Revolting.

In case that’s not enough to make you lose your last meal, here’s the final blow:

“It’s that whole, you know, My Chemical Romance meets Dangerous Faggot thing,” said Yiannopoulos, describing the images. “They’re low key very subversive, which always comes out when Mike and I work together.”

Edited to add: Tanktop photos. Shudder.

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Anymouse Jul 15, 2016 • 9:42:06pm

re: #185 Lidane

My house and car are worth more than they raised, and I own a tiny little house and a Smart car.

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Charles Johnson Jul 15, 2016 • 9:43:46pm

Going on 1AM Saturday and Trump campaign site still has no sign of VP Mike Pence.

Welcome to the team, governor! pic.twitter.com/jXSGJD2YAw

— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) July 16, 2016

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 9:44:40pm

ha. ha.

@BarryCaro @joshtpm @LesserFrederick @earldean71 @TonyFratto @stuartpstevens Do you think the Trump campaign has risk & compliance staff?
— Andrew Burton (@burtonad) July 16, 2016

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Lidane Jul 15, 2016 • 9:45:09pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

That’s an insult to My Chemical Romance. Also, you’d think Mr. Cultural Zeitgeist would find a current band to name drop instead of one who broke up in 2013.

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Dark_Falcon Jul 15, 2016 • 9:45:11pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

It gets worse. Much, much worse. Apparently Milo Y thinks of himself as a “burgeoning cultural icon”. Revolting.

In case that’s not enough to make you lose your last meal, here’s the final blow:

Meh, that’s just pseudo-artistic nonsensical DERPitude. That’s to be expected from a buffoon like him.

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retired cynic Jul 15, 2016 • 9:45:12pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

It gets worse. Much, much worse. Apparently Milo Y thinks of himself as a “burgeoning cultural icon”. Revolting.

In case that’s not enough to make you lose your last meal, here’s the final blow:

HAHAHAHAHAH! Gasp! Wheeze! Snork!

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 9:46:46pm

re: #163 Kragar

@Moon_Clinic
Evil Albino Replicant Poser
— (((gocart mozart))) (@gocartmozart1) July 16, 2016

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majii Jul 15, 2016 • 9:47:15pm

re: #185 Lidane

I’ve been wondering for some time now why Trump isn’t raising millions from his supporters. If they’re as dedicated as they seem, surely they’d be donating to his campaign like crazy. Something about his failure to raise enormous amounts of money from his millions of supporters doesn’t seem right to me. I remember when Barack Obama ran in 2008 and 2012, I was giving money every month, sometimes several times each month. I’ll be donating HRC’s campaign every month until the November election. I’m also beginning to wonder whether his rank and file supporters are capable of donating to his campaign, or whether they’re not donating because they believed him when he said he’d self-fund his campaign.

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mmmirele Jul 15, 2016 • 9:47:49pm

My inner 13 YO has had entirely too much fun today. And I definitely needed that, especially after a week of transient attacks of vertigo which have really messed my life up.

So yeah, laughing myself silly over the Trump-Pence logo—not the most mature thing in the world, but I desperately needed it.

These guys might actually be better than Trump-Pence

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No Depression Jul 15, 2016 • 9:48:14pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

It gets worse. Much, much worse. Apparently Milo Y thinks of himself as a “burgeoning cultural icon”. Revolting.

In case that’s not enough to make you lose your last meal, here’s the final blow:

Edited to add: Tanktop photos. Shudder.

In what world is MCR subversive?

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Lidane Jul 15, 2016 • 9:48:57pm

re: #195 majii

Why give money to a billionaire who claims that he’s “self-funding”?

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Lidane Jul 15, 2016 • 9:49:18pm

Trump camp saw only $2.2 million from fund that raised $25 million in same quarter https://t.co/7XIolEfQmf

— Bruce Bartlett (@BruceBartlett) July 16, 2016

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:49:56pm

re: #195 majii

I’ve been wondering for some time now why Trump isn’t raising millions from his supporters. If they’re as dedicated as they seem, surely they’d be donating to his campaign like crazy. Something about his failure to raise enormous amounts of money from his millions of supporters doesn’t seem right to me. I remember when Barack Obama ran in 2008 and 2012, I was giving money every month, sometimes several times each month. I’ll be donating HRC’s campaign every month until the November election. I’m also beginning to wonder whether his rank and file supporters are capable of donating to his campaign, or whether they’re not donating because they believed him when he said he’d self-fund his campaign.

Trumps oafish supporters are just like the man himself. They expect something for nothing. I’m sure there is no demographic in the entire country that would be worse for getting political (or charitable) donations.

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William Lewis Jul 15, 2016 • 9:50:07pm

re: #191 Lidane

That’s an insult to My Chemical Romance. Also, you’d think Mr. Cultural Zeitgeist would find a current band to name drop instead of one who broke up in 2013.

After, alas, their best and most fun album. I was really looking forward to more from them after Killjoys. Much more enjoyable than emo max earlier in the discography.

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mmmirele Jul 15, 2016 • 9:52:44pm

re: #188 Anymouse

My house and car are worth more than they raised, and I own a tiny little house and a Smart car.

I have far more money in my 401K (but nowhere near enough for retirement) than they collected. Yikes.

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 9:53:27pm

@Moon_Clinic pic.twitter.com/gR9pGzMwHW

— Dick Grayson (@_4thWall) July 15, 2016

@Moon_Clinic pic.twitter.com/JkZ3r1ifIl

— Dick Grayson (@_4thWall) July 15, 2016

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mmmirele Jul 15, 2016 • 9:53:45pm

re: #198 Lidane

Why give money to a billionaire who claims that he’s “self-funding”?

Why give money to a billionaire who hasn’t yet forgiven his loans to the campaign? If you donate at this point, you’re just giving the short-fingered vulgarian money to pay himself back.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 9:54:04pm

re: #202 mmmirele

I have far more money in my 401K (but nowhere near enough for retirement) than they collected. Yikes.

This business of the Democrats possibly having a serious money advantage in this election season is disorienting.

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 9:55:01pm

re: #195 majii

I’ve been wondering for some time now why Trump isn’t raising millions from his supporters. If they’re as dedicated as they seem, surely they’d be donating to his campaign like crazy. Something about his failure to raise enormous amounts of money from his millions of supporters doesn’t seem right to me. I remember when Barack Obama ran in 2008 and 2012, I was giving money every month, sometimes several times each month. I’ll be donating HRC’s campaign every month until the November election. I’m also beginning to wonder whether his rank and file supporters are capable of donating to his campaign, or whether they’re not donating because they believed him when he said he’d self-fund his campaign.

He sold them on SELF FUNDED.

They’ve never contributed to a campaign. They won’t start. Especially since they were promised that they wouldn’t have to.

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Dave In Austin Jul 15, 2016 • 9:55:06pm

Still a better platform than #Trump-#Pence. pic.twitter.com/koSY1ng456

— Tony Laurenzana (@dukedynamite) July 15, 2016

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Anymouse Jul 15, 2016 • 9:57:11pm

re: #202 mmmirele

I have far more money in my 401K (but nowhere near enough for retirement) than they collected. Yikes.

Retirement fund? What’s that? My wife’s fund was mostly lost (over 90%) by the bank that her employer secured to run it after the company decided to outsource it (thanks, Carly Fiorina).

I have the benefit of my VA disability so we won’t starve (and I insist of staying out of stock and bond markets, so we actually have money today for things like trips to Canada).

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electrotek Jul 15, 2016 • 10:05:43pm

This clown wants to create more Breivik’s, and then cry when that happens:

This is a war.

And it will not stop until we close our borders for Islam and de-Islamize our societies.

No more terror.
No more Islam!

— Geert Wilders (@geertwilderspvv) July 15, 2016

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 10:05:50pm

Clinton to Rep. Pence (R-IN): Obama Won the Election

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gocart mozart Jul 15, 2016 • 10:07:49pm

@geertwilderspvv
This is war and you and ISIS are going to lose!
— (((gocart mozart))) (@gocartmozart1) July 16, 2016

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Anymouse Jul 15, 2016 • 10:07:49pm

Breaking the mattress of America. pic.twitter.com/M4Cq62YS2c

— Full Frontal (@FullFrontalSamB) 15 July 2016

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 10:12:11pm

re: #210 gocart mozart

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Video

Hillary is smarter than most anyone. Jebus. Her composure.

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EPR-radar Jul 15, 2016 • 10:12:43pm

re: #209 electrotek

I must have missed something about the troubles relating to North Ireland. Was it the muslim involvement or the lack of any terrorism?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 10:14:12pm

re: #206 Stanley Sea

He sold them on SELF FUNDED.

They’ve never contributed to a campaign. They won’t start. Especially since they were promised that they wouldn’t have to.

I guar-on-tee most of them don’t even know he’s trying to fundraise. He’s a billionaire, right? “I dunno how many zeros that is, but it’s a lot! He’s going to buy the White House for us and then kick some lib ass, amirite?”

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GrantS Jul 15, 2016 • 10:14:49pm

I’ll give Trump one week after the convention before he insults his own VP.

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MsJ Jul 15, 2016 • 10:14:51pm

re: #205 EPR-radar

This business of the Democrats possibly having a serious money advantage in this election season is disorienting.

This whole election is disorienting.

I have to say…I’m getting scared. May in the UK is nuts. After Paris, la Pen might get in with all her mighty hate, and we have trump. The whole world is losing its mind and I’m honestly frightened.

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Dave In Austin Jul 15, 2016 • 10:15:08pm

pic.twitter.com/zOAKCbmuSW

— Manzana (@thewhiteapple) July 15, 2016

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Anymouse Jul 15, 2016 • 10:18:41pm

re: #217 MsJ

This whole election is disorienting.

I have to say…I’m getting scared. May in the UK is nuts. After Paris, la Pen might get in with all her mighty hate, and we have trump. The whole world is losing its mind and I’m honestly frightened.

Trump will not win.
270towin.com

Count the number of electoral votes required for each side (based on past elections), when you get to 270, the election is over.

On the other hand, the derp Mr. Trump has stirred up will not go away after the GOP is handed a massive defeat.

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Stanley Sea Jul 15, 2016 • 10:20:14pm

Funny, tonight I tried to pet my kit’s tummy. I have a one claw puncture. I became somewhat allergic to cats, but when I got Chica, I just went with it, haven’t had any probs. But my hand is so itchy. I peroxided it & have neosporin on it. BAH

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whitebeach Jul 15, 2016 • 10:21:25pm

re: #214 EPR-radar

I must have missed something about the troubles relating to North Ireland. Was it the muslim involvement or the lack of any terrorism?

Well, jeez, EPR, Northern Ireland was just a tiny ripple in the vast lake of serenity that was twentieth-century Europe before all those Muslim terrists arrived.

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MsJ Jul 15, 2016 • 10:22:40pm

re: #220 Stanley Sea

Funny, tonight I tried to pet my kit’s tummy. I have a one claw puncture. I became somewhat allergic to cats, but when I got Chica, I just went with it, haven’t had any probs. But my hand is so itchy. I peroxided it & have neosporin on it. BAH

Take a Benedryl. If you have allergies, that will fix you right up. It’ll knock you out, too, but that’s a side benefit. You get to sleep when
You’re itchy and feeling icky.

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Anymouse Jul 15, 2016 • 10:24:09pm

Twilight turned to dark here in The Pas at 11PM. I must be in the far north or something.

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electrotek Jul 15, 2016 • 10:25:17pm

@MaguidhirP @geertwilderspvv I bet you also pray for another Anders Breivik to emerge too, don’t you?

— دانیال (@danja84) July 16, 2016

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FormerDirtDart Jul 15, 2016 • 10:27:00pm

People say my Twitter might be a problem for employers but I know a guy who tweets white supremacist memes and he’s running for president.
— JuanPidgeotto (@jpbrammer) July 15, 2016

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FormerDirtDart Jul 15, 2016 • 10:30:58pm

Dominance and Humiliation, No Middle Ground https://t.co/GGBkVjICFE pic.twitter.com/2Wjp7cu8kL

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 16, 2016

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Dave In Austin Jul 15, 2016 • 10:36:55pm

re: #223 Anymouse

Twilight turned to dark here in The Pas at 11PM. I must be in the far north or something.

When I was in the Army, I was stationed at Ft. Wainwright outside of Fairbanks AK. I always found it amusing to close the bars down at 3 am coming outside to drunk-assed sunshine.

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electrotek Jul 15, 2016 • 10:39:08pm

What “liberals” are supporting the coup in Turkey?

Have they not learn from the ever-lasting effects of the last coup they backed in the region?

Greece 1967, and to this day anti-Americanism is still intact thanks to our support of a brutal Greek junta.

Do people not learn from history?

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teleskiguy Jul 15, 2016 • 10:40:08pm

Only the second time, I think, that I have used this hashtag. There will be more in the future.

#ImWithHer RT @PopSci: Republican Party Wants To Privatize Public Land https://t.co/aEtM9z6SRf pic.twitter.com/T2CuLkqvfG

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) July 16, 2016

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FormerDirtDart Jul 15, 2016 • 10:44:33pm

OK, if you’re going to go ahead and reboot a movie, and “change the paradigm”,
why isn’t Leslie Jones one of the “Drs”?
Was it one stereotype to far for them to jump?
Haven’t seen the movie.
Haven’t gone to a movie since Jan. 2005, so I’ll be waiting for the DVD…

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William Lewis Jul 15, 2016 • 10:55:01pm

re: #230 FormerDirtDart

Only reviewer I trust since Eberle death likes it schlockmercenary.com

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FormerDirtDart Jul 15, 2016 • 10:56:15pm

It’s loud, watch your volume

Incredible footage from inside the offices of CNN Turk - shows soldiers being arrested by Turkish police

pic.twitter.com/FAXvJCK2jX

— omar r quraishi (@omar_quraishi) July 16, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Jul 15, 2016 • 11:01:13pm

This is how crazy the world is right now:

Pizza gator gained zero media traction today. pic.twitter.com/ODetyEMzoB

— kevinbiegel (@kbiegel) July 16, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 11:01:56pm

re: #232 FormerDirtDart

It’s loud, watch your volume

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That’s quite a scene. One might almost gather the impression that the newsroom team were unsympathetic with the coupsters.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 15, 2016 • 11:02:21pm

re: #175 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It seems as if this was a mid-level coup against both the government and the military high command. Doomed from the get-go. Even more inept than the coup against Gorbachev.

And the attempted putsch against Gorbachev has to be one of the shining examples of bunglers trying to gain power.

OK, on second thought, sure, the Beer Hall Putsch was a comic-opera example as well.

The consequences of this abortive coup in Turkey are going to be long-lasting and significant. Erdogan is now pretty much President-for-Life after this.

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MsJ Jul 15, 2016 • 11:05:54pm

Oh my.

Y’all a bunch of perverts. Nothing wrong with this logo. #trumppence pic.twitter.com/SbRDzI7opi

— Farce the Music (@Farcethemusic) July 15, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 11:09:58pm

re: #236 MsJ

Oh my.

[Embedded content]

Remember the Good Old Days™, when Scott Walker’s logo that was stolen from America’s Best Optical, and was basically the Stars and Bars, was the worst political logo ever? Good times….

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MsJ Jul 15, 2016 • 11:11:37pm

re: #237 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Remember the Good Old Days™, when Scott Walker’s logo that was stolen from America’s Best Optical, and was basically the Stars and Bars, was the worst political logo ever? Good times….

Republicans, man. I just can’t even….

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majii Jul 15, 2016 • 11:12:08pm

re: #236 MsJ

Oh, my is right. I don’t think FTM’s paid much attention to what the blue vertical line resembles if you follow it from the top to the bottom.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 15, 2016 • 11:17:38pm

We all knew that any politician who became Trump’s running mate would be screwed for life, but this is a bit blunt.pic.twitter.com/xg0LYB8uuf

— (((Yair Rosenberg))) (@Yair_Rosenberg) July 15, 2016

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Anymouse Jul 15, 2016 • 11:18:40pm

Heavy crime wave on here in The Pas: The RCMP just pulled over a speeder in front of our motel.

No guns, everything calm, almost as if Canada is a civilised country or something.

Cree tribal police followed us around this afternoon after we left Tim Horton’s because my wife and I were apparently suspicious. Followed us for two miles back to our motel, then apologised to us when we parked in the lot for being suspicious.

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FormerDirtDart Jul 15, 2016 • 11:21:12pm

Words…

No Ben. #WhyIMissBeingALittleKid pic.twitter.com/1GmINLTIjE

— Bad Father Han Solo (@BadFatherHan) July 3, 2016

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 15, 2016 • 11:40:20pm

re: #66 A Cranky One

Don’t bogart the delegates, my friend.

Remember, it’s ‘vote, vote, pass’.

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MsJ Jul 15, 2016 • 11:41:04pm

Hey, who woke up the FEC from their naps? https://t.co/riMkpV5uJ2

— Marlene Montooth (@mampdx) July 16, 2016

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Cheechako Jul 15, 2016 • 11:52:09pm

Question: wouldn’t this fund raising restriction on Gov Pence also apply to Gov Christie if he were the VP nominee?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 16, 2016 • 12:00:11am

re: #245 Cheechako

Question: wouldn’t this fund raising restriction on Gov Pence also apply to Gov Christie if he were the VP nominee?

Yeah, it seems like this law would prevent any governor from running for President or Vice-President. I find it hard to believe this is being quoted or interpreted accurately. And if it is, is this desirable?

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 12:40:22am

#BREAKING Deputy PM Müezzinoğlu says gov’t will discuss bringing back death penalty for coup plotters. #TURKEY

— Mehmet Solmaz (@MhmtSlmz) July 16, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Jul 16, 2016 • 1:06:20am

re: #245 Cheechako

Question: wouldn’t this fund raising restriction on Gov Pence also apply to Gov Christie if he were the VP nominee?

Yes, I believe so. Christie has a track record of playing with the amount paid in his state’s fund and I believe he nominates the trustees.

re: #246 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, it seems like this law would prevent any governor from running for President or Vice-President. I find it hard to believe this is being quoted or interpreted accurately. And if it is, is this desirable?

It doesn’t prevent them from running at all, it just limits the amount that can be given to their campaign by SEC licensed investment advisors, people with a vested professional interest in the kinds of market decisions the candidate is in a position to make. These state pension funds control billions in public assets. Here’s a breakdown of the rule and the reasoning behind it. Specifically:

Modeled on MSRB Rules G-37 and G-38, which address “pay-to-play” practices among municipal securities dealers, the Rule prohibits an investment adviser from (i) providing advisory services for compensation to a government entity client for two years after the adviser or certain of its executives or employees make a contribution to certain elected officials or candidates, (ii) providing direct or indirect payments to any third party that solicits government entities for advisory business unless this third party is a registered broker-dealer or investment adviser itself subject to “pay-to-play” restrictions, and (iii) soliciting from others, or coordinating, contributions to certain elected officials or candidates or payments to political parties where the adviser is providing or seeking government business.

…

In addressing commenters’ concerns relating to First Amendment rights, regulatory burdens and other issues, the SEC cited the rarely explicit nature of “pay-to-play” practices, the difficulty in proving such practices, and the inability of market-based approaches to address them as supporting the adoption of a broad-based and prophylactic rule.

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Kragar Jul 16, 2016 • 1:16:40am

pic.twitter.com/pKGBuYWgiO

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 16, 2016

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Anymouse Jul 16, 2016 • 1:22:40am

re: #249 Kragar

Merry Hallowe’en?

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 16, 2016 • 2:01:31am

re: #213 Stanley Sea

Hillary is smarter than most anyone. Jebus. Her composure.

I don’t see no teleprompter neither.

And Trump fanboys are all “she can’t string two words together”. Riiight. You pay attention to the debates, assuming Trump has the grit to show up.

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Dave In Austin Jul 16, 2016 • 2:18:40am

re: #251 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

I don’t see no teleprompter neither.

And Trump fanboys are all “she can’t string two words together”. Riiight. You pay attention to the debates, assuming Trump has the grit to show up.

Debate……

Warren - Pence

Bloodbath

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William Lewis Jul 16, 2016 • 2:28:35am

re: #252 Dave In Austin

While that would be delightful, Id still rather see her stay in the Senate. There are a number of other equally qualified candidates for vp instead.

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Dave In Austin Jul 16, 2016 • 2:35:38am

re: #253 William Lewis

While that would be delightful, Id still rather see her stay in the Senate. There are a number of other equally qualified candidates for vp instead.

I hear ya, but…… Funny she’s not on the speakers docket for the convention at this point.
Lemons/Lemonade……..
Just saying.

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Dave In Austin Jul 16, 2016 • 2:36:45am

Nite shift… 2 more to go.

Umphrey’s McGee (w/ Warren Haynes) - “Little Gift / Higgins” - Mountain Jam 2016

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 3:39:38am

Greece has arrested eight men aboard a Turkish military helicopter which landed in the northern city of Alexandroupolis at midday on Saturday, the country’s police ministry said.
The men have requested political asylum, it added.

Greek state television ERT said the men may have been involved in Turkey’s military uprising on Friday.

Naturally, the Turkish government is demanding their return.

theguardian.com

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 4:04:14am

British Airways has canceled all flights to and from Turkey and now the Swedish Foreign Office is advising its citizens against all “non-essential” travel to Turkey.

svt.se (in Swedish, but you can run it through GoogleTranslate).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 16, 2016 • 4:16:32am

in Swedish, but you can run it through GoogleTranslate

“my sister was bitten by a moose once…mind you, moose bites can be pretty nasty…”

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 4:18:22am

From Australia: smartraveller.gov.au

From Ireland: dfa.ie

Norway is now advising non-essential travel to Turkey as well and

UPDATE: Russian airlines suspend regular flights to #Turkey https://t.co/B86WmvscrR

— RT (@RT_com) July 16, 2016

Right at the height of tourist season. This is gonna hit their economy hard.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 4:20:10am

Hmm, an interesting observation. At first I thought that ISIS merely claiming responsibility means nothing, but apparently not:

telegraph.co.uk

However, David Thomson, an expert on Islamist terrorism, pointed out that Isil has never been known in the past to claim an attack it did not order and plan.

“Until now, they’ve never claimed an attack opportunistically although they could have done so many times,” Mr Thomson said.

“There must be links (with radical Islam) and if they’re claiming it, that must mean there’s proof of those links and they will make them public.”

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 4:29:07am

re: #260 Nyet

Speaking of Jihadists and disinformation:

The FBI, however, has been unable to find evidence to corroborate such claims. Agents have failed to find any photographs, text messages, smartphone apps, gay pornography or cell-tower location data that suggest that Mateen — who was twice married to women and had a young son — had a secret gay life, law enforcement officials have told The Times.

latimes.com

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Shiplord Kirel Jul 16, 2016 • 4:37:52am

re: #261 Nyet

Speaking of Jihadists and disinformation:

latimes.com

It’s a cover-up!

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 4:47:44am

I guess LePen is inevitable at this point.

And that another clear proto-fascist who is outspent everywhere and whose campaign is barebones is more or less tied in the polls (even if there is a ray of light) should tell us everything we wanted to know about how fucked up the year 2016 is.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 4:51:22am

re: #263 Nyet

I guess LePen is inevitable at this point.

kvoa.com

French President Francois Hollande and Provence Alpes d’Azur regional president Christian Estrosi were booed by an assembled crowd as their convoy drove through Nice following the French leader’s televised address.

Christelle Hespel says that she’s disgusted by both men - saying they’d failed to protect her city. The 38-year-old said: “Mr. Estrosi is from the right. Mr. Hollande from the left. I say it and I say it loud, these two are killers.”

Hollande’s government, whose popularity has hit record lows, has recently been buffeted by allegations that France’s intelligence services have failed to get a handle on the country’s jihadi threat.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 4:53:02am

BREAKING - Turkey’s top judicial body HSYK lays off 2,745 judges after extraordinary meetinghttps://t.co/0rmMJiXSD0 pic.twitter.com/gQo56peoCx

— DAILY SABAH (@DailySabah) July 16, 2016

It’s Daily Sabah, a strongly pro-AKP newspaper, but I see no reason in this case to doubt this story.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 4:58:30am

I frankly have no idea how to react to the Turkish situation.
That Islamist Erdogan is a bad guy goes without saying, has been clear to me since around 2002. Then again, that doesn’t mean that the guys behind the coup are better, esp. as we don’t really know who they are. In any case, what is going on is the opposite of healthy politics. Turkey is clearly not ready to join the EU.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 5:10:39am

re: #266 Nyet

I frankly have no idea how to react to the Turkish situation.
That Islamist Erdogan is a bad guy goes without saying, has been clear to me since around 2002. Then again, that doesn’t mean that the guys behind the coup are better, esp. as we don’t really know who they are. In any case, what is going on is the opposite of healthy politics. Turkey is clearly not ready to join the EU.

They won’t be ready for quite some time, I’d say.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 5:12:23am

re: #266 Nyet

I frankly have no idea how to react to the Turkish situation.
That Islamist Erdogan is a bad guy goes without saying, has been clear to me since around 2002. Then again, that doesn’t mean that the guys behind the coup are better, esp. as we don’t really know who they are. In any case, what is going on is the opposite of healthy politics. Turkey is clearly not ready to join the EU.

I failed to add there is apparently a very serious and very real discussion about the reintroduction of the death penalty in Turkey. If they go down that path, they can kiss their EU aspirations goodbye.

The death penalty is prohibited under EU law - it’s a major red line for the European Union.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 5:14:39am

re: #267 Dr Lizardo

They won’t be ready for quite some time, I’d say.

And the reaction to the coup, which will likely be merciless, will underscore this.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 5:15:51am

re: #269 Nyet

And the reaction to the coup, which will likely be merciless, will underscore this.

Definitely. I’ve been Skyping some of secularist friends in Istanbul, and they’re exceedingly nervous to say the least. They’re fearing a crackdown the like of which hasn’t been seen in a generation or so.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 5:19:39am

I can’t help being a bit paranoid and wonder whether Putin’s had a hand in this.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 5:21:07am

re: #271 Nyet

I can’t help being a bit paranoid and wonder whether Putin’s had a hand in this.

I don’t even want to think about that possibility. Yeesh.

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PhillyPretzel Jul 16, 2016 • 5:22:53am

re: #270 Dr Lizardo

re: #271 Nyet

Pardon me for quoting from Star Wars, …”the more you tighten your grip the more star systems will slip through your fingers.”

There will be a crackdown and there will be those who fight it. I do not like what I am seeing so far. Please also keep in mind that Israel recently normalized relations with Turkey.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 5:23:01am

re: #272 Dr Lizardo

I don’t even want to think about that possibility. Yeesh.

Then again, Erdogan has enough enemies, so that’s just paranoia speaking. Although Putin was probably the most powerful enemy Erdogan’s made. And yes, there were recent signs of rapprochement, but you know about revenge best served cold.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 5:24:21am

So, regarding this judge removal business in Turkey - there were 7,604 judges in Turkey. After today’s purge, there are 4,859 left. 36% of the nation’s judges were removed today.

Just damn.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 5:25:12am

re: #275 Dr Lizardo

Is it even constitutional?

(And yeah, this is far from over.)

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 5:30:18am

re: #276 Nyet

Is it even constitutional?

(And yeah, this is far from over.)

I don’t know about that…….but that’s damn fast, I’ll tell you that. I wonder if there was some kind of pre-existing blacklist and now it’s been acted upon. 2,745 judges gone in a single day?

That kind of shit takes some planning.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 5:33:46am

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

Depends. If they belong to a particular party/org it could be a fully automated process :)

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lawhawk Jul 16, 2016 • 5:34:58am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Turkey’s situation remains in flux, and no one seems to know what’s going on. Erdogan seems to be back in charge, blaming an exiled cleric in the Poconos for inspiring the uprising, and now seems to be thrashing the coup participants (including threatening to restore the death penalty against those who participated).

Meanwhile, back here in the US, it seems that the Trump campaign is having a personality crisis. The Trump website lacks any mention of Pence, and the TP logo is no longer showing anywhere.

Picking the VP is an important one, but it’s also among the least important that a President will make. Trump bungled every aspect of the announcement - the logo being the funniest but least important part of it.

Trump’s official site front page has two mentions of Pence, and they’re both essentially quotes of his Tweets announcing the move. No other info. No bio on Pence. Nothing. The donate page, which previously had the lamentable TP logo, has Pence on the page, but nothing else about his running mate.

Bizarre doesn’t begin to cover this.

It’s almost like Trump’s embarrassed to have picked Pence, and wont allow anyone to overshadow him.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 5:35:11am

This has prolly been posted, but anyway.

HYPER-REALITY

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 5:38:07am

re: #279 lawhawk

And yet he’s still effectively tied in the polls. This world is fucked up.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 5:40:46am

Anyone here seen Narcos? I was thinking of binge-watching it this evening.

Is it binge-watch worthy?

I can recommend for your binge-watching enjoyment a German TV series called Deutschland ‘83….an eight episode series with part of its story being the NATO Able Archer 83 exercise.

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jeffreyw Jul 16, 2016 • 5:44:33am

Imgur

Good morning! A little nippy out today!

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 5:47:31am

Regarding the Turkish military fellows who requested asylum in Greece:

Greece’s government spokesperson Olga Gerovasili has announced the Athens government is in touch with its counterpart in Ankara over the landing of a Turkish military helicopter with eight coup plotters on board in the northern border town of Alexandroupolis, Helena Smith reports

In the first official statement on the issue, the spokeswoman said the military aircraft had been accompanied by two fighter jets into Greek airspace and would be returned to Turkey as soon as possible. Suggesting that crisis-hit Greece wanted nothing to do with the bizarre incident, she also suggested that Greece would repatriate the eight military personnel aboard the helicopter.

“The Greek government has been in touch with Turkish authorities in order to arrange the return as soon as possible of the military helicopter to Turkish authorities,” she said. “With regards to the eight arrestees, procedures foreseen by international law will be upheld although it is seriously being taken into account that in their country the arrested stand accused of violating constitutional law and attempting the overthrow of democracy.”

theguardian.com

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 5:49:31am

re: #280 Nyet

Seems like Matsuda has been having lots of fun with this.

Augmented (hyper)Reality: Domestic Robocop

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Ming5000 Jul 16, 2016 • 5:54:29am

re: #213 Stanley Sea

Thank you for finding that video of HRC responding to Gov (then Rep.) Pence.

I am often humbled when I listen to her speak and respond to questions.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 5:55:26am

I quipped yesterday that #Pokemon GO should all be six feet beyond the edge of a cliff… pic.twitter.com/ayALIAROzm

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 16, 2016

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 5:56:07am

re: #287 darthstar

*shrug*

Darwin’s award.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 6:00:03am

re: #288 Nyet

*shrug*

Darwin’s award.

I only play the game while I’m driving…and I wear my seat belt.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 6:01:19am

re: #289 darthstar

I only play the game while I’m driving…and I wear my seat belt.

Well, I would if I played the game. Didn’t understand the cards 20 years ago and now all those kids who played it are adults with iPhones.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 6:02:14am

@darthstar99 Cartoon Physics doesn’t work in the real world kiddies pic.twitter.com/KY26bovlxn

— Julian M Lobachewski (@TheJML9999) July 16, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:04:06am

The Latest: Some soldiers, now in custody, reportedly thought Turkey coup attempt was just an exercise. https://t.co/qX2JRAsSW1

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 16, 2016

3:35 p.m.

NTV television has shown footage of a Turkish colonel and other soldiers being taken into custody at military headquarters.

The video shows them being hand-searched by special forces police, their hands behind their heads. Some are later seen kneeling on the ground, their hands still held behind their heads.

According to Hurriyet newspaper’s online edition, some of the privates who were detained told interrogators they were not aware that they were part of a coup attempt. They had been told by commanders they were taking part in military maneuvers. Some said they understood that it was a coup attempt when they saw civilians climb on tanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:09:34am

lol, yeah, sure it was, Donald…

Look forward to introducing Governor Mike Pence (who has done a spectacular job in the great State of Indiana). My first choice from start!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 16, 2016

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 6:15:09am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmm, if so, the commanders are fucks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:15:33am

re: #294 Nyet

Hmm, if so, the commanders are fucks.

indeed

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Dr. Matt Jul 16, 2016 • 6:16:58am

In many ways, Pence is even more dangerous and even more ignorant than Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:18:48am

This is what many people say that the logo of @realDonaldTrump and @GovPenceIN means: pic.twitter.com/WBJEEAqEiq

— Jose Ceballos (@JoseCeballosFL) July 16, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Jul 16, 2016 • 6:20:03am

re: #163 Kragar

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Two crosses still doesn’t make you a martyr.

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Dr. Matt Jul 16, 2016 • 6:20:16am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Haha! Love it.

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Scottishdragon Jul 16, 2016 • 6:22:11am

re: #28 teleskiguy

Gonna be a lot of hangings next week.

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More than 2,000 judges have been sacked this morning according to HuffPo. The purges have started. The secret detentions and star chambers will commence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:22:40am

#NotBreaking: My governor is still an asshole:

Today this meaningful pro-life legislation takes effect. It’s humbling to be KY Gov, where we value sanctity of life pic.twitter.com/H874U7gGXQ

— Governor Matt Bevin (@GovMattBevin) July 15, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:24:54am

Donald has five tweets this morning, four of them whining about Hillary.
Still nothing about Turkey.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 6:26:17am

re: #300 Aunty Entity Dragon

More than 2,000 judges have been sacked this morning according to HuffPo. The purges have started. The secret detentions and star chambers will commence.

Yep. That’s coming real soon, I’m thinking.

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GlutenFreeJesus Jul 16, 2016 • 6:29:22am

Everyone in Turkey believes Gülen was behind this. It happened because many of his followers within the government were being investigated and the Govt was going to move in on them very soon.

Huge failure on the coup part. 160+ civilians killed. Almost 2000 injured. This has turned most of Turkey against the military. Seems to be pretty much over now though. Flights into and out of Turkey have resumed.

And many citizens mad at us for allowing Gülen to live here.

Just relaying what the feeling in Turkey seems to be after all this mess now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:30:10am

Who’s actually running this account? A 15 year old?

Trump’s Twitter feed is like the dialog from Mean Girls pic.twitter.com/1bEF9tlzJL

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) July 16, 2016

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 6:30:23am

re: #300 Aunty Entity Dragon

More than 2,000 judges have been sacked this morning according to HuffPo. The purges have started. The secret detentions and star chambers will commence.

And here. we. go.

Turkey’s state-run news agency says authorities have detained 10 members of Turkey’s highest administrative court as the government appeared to press ahead with a purge of judiciary officials with alleged links to a US-based Muslim cleric.

The Anadolu Agency said that arrest warrants were issued for 48 administrative court members and 140 members of Turkey’s appeals court. Earlier, Anadolu said a body overseeing judges and prosecutors in Turkey has dismissed 2,745 judges across Turkey.

theguardian.com

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lawhawk Jul 16, 2016 • 6:30:41am

One has to wonder how exactly Erdogan managed to sack all those judges in such short time. Were these lists known to him before, and he’s now used the coup as a pretext to reshape the judiciary in his image? Moreover, why sack members of the judiciary, which had nothing to do with the coup by military officials.

It just seems off.

The whole thing is off.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 6:32:03am

re: #304 GlutenFreeJesus

Everyone in Turkey believes Gülen was behind this. It happened because many of his followers within the government were being investigated and the Govt was going to move in on them very soon.

Huge failure on the coup part. 160+ civilians killed. Almost 2000 injured. This has turned most of Turkey against the military. Seems to be pretty much over now though. Flights into and out of Turkey have resumed.

And many citizens mad at us for allowing Gülen to live here.

Just relaying what the feeling in Turkey seems to be after all this mess now.

Speaking of Mr. Gülen:

reuters.com

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 6:33:52am

re: #307 lawhawk

One has to wonder how exactly Erdogan managed to sack all those judges in such short time. Were these lists known to him before, and he’s now used the coup as a pretext to reshape the judiciary in his image? Moreover, why sack members of the judiciary, which had nothing to do with the coup by military officials.

It just seems off.

The whole thing is off.

The false flag theories are flying everywhere and it’s not just the usual suspects who consider everything a false flag, up to and including that bad burrito they got last week.

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Scottishdragon Jul 16, 2016 • 6:34:42am

re: #307 lawhawk

One has to wonder how exactly Erdogan managed to sack all those judges in such short time. Were these lists known to him before, and he’s now used the coup as a pretext to reshape the judiciary in his image? Moreover, why sack members of the judiciary, which had nothing to do with the coup by military officials.

It just seems off.

The whole thing is off.

Never let a good crisis go to waste. Everybody who was a possible impediment to what Erdogan wants will be in jail or dead within the week.

Step one: destroy the judiciary who might rule against your other arrests etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 16, 2016 • 6:35:01am

re: #271 Nyet

I can’t help being a bit paranoid and wonder whether Putin’s had a hand in this.

Turkey was in a position to use the Syrian crisis to come out looking like a force for stability and authority in the region. Putin did not want that. To that extent, his interest in recent events is clear if his role is not.

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Scottishdragon Jul 16, 2016 • 6:36:36am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

The false flag theories are flying everywhere and it’s not just the usual suspects who consider everything a false flag, up to and including that bad burrito they got last week.

I’m not going to discount this theory out of hand.

It is entirely possible that Erdogan had been tipped off this was going to happen and he just let it play out. It is telling he had a list of nearly 3,000 judges already prepped to sack and dozens to arrest this morning.

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FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 6:37:39am

Security Message for U.S. Citizens: Istanbul’s Atatürk Airport Security - July 16, 2016 https://t.co/oXPPU81BAo pic.twitter.com/mEpNpcXK2N

— US Embassy Turkey (@USEmbassyTurkey) July 16, 2016

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electrotek Jul 16, 2016 • 6:39:48am

@danja84 @Ricky_Vaughn99 Sure, it’s the right-wing extremist white guys that are clacking off suicide vests and running down babies daily.

— rollin roosevelt (@VonSpeedy) July 16, 2016

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Scottishdragon Jul 16, 2016 • 6:40:11am

Also really strange last night at the airport when Erdogan exclaimed that the coup was “A gift from God!”

Not what you generally hear from leaders in the middle of a military coup attempt.

Again…gives credence to theories he knew something about this before hand.

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FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 6:41:11am

Orly Taitz posted another pic w Mike Pence. Perhaps she’s vying for Attorney General? #law #p2 #teaparty #birther pic.twitter.com/UymZETFA3J

— HGTomato (@HGTomato) July 16, 2016

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lawhawk Jul 16, 2016 • 6:42:35am

Says the guy who’s so highly leveraged by bank loans, you wont reveal your tax returns and show your finances. @realDonaldTrump

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 16, 2016

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 6:44:09am

re: #312 Aunty Entity Dragon

I’m not going to discount this theory out of hand.

It is entirely possible that Erdogan had been tipped off this was going to happen and he just let it play out. It is telling he had a list of nearly 3,000 judges already prepped to sack and dozens to arrest this morning.

Turkey’s MIT (National Intelligence Organization) might well have known that something was cooking and Erdogan decided, as you said, to let it play out - a sort of loyalty test, as it were.

Now, he has the excuse - and the veneer of legitimacy - to go after anyone he damn well pleases.

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GlutenFreeJesus Jul 16, 2016 • 6:45:05am

re: #307 lawhawk

The lists have been known for awhile. Gülen has been working actively against him for 3 years since their falling out.

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electrotek Jul 16, 2016 • 6:48:37am

Pakistani model Qandeel Baloch was murdered by her brother and the amount of Pakistanis on social media justifying this is unbelievable:

@RitaPanahi @QandeelQuebee @i_k_b what she doing is disgrace for pakistan so she deserve this

— Asad Iqbal Orakzai (@iasad823) July 16, 2016

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lawhawk Jul 16, 2016 • 6:48:40am

BREAKING: Ohio GOP delegation denied traditional front row seats at home-state convention; instead, they go to blue states CA, Trump’s NY

— Darrel Rowland (@darreldrowland) July 16, 2016

Seriously, this is almost comical.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:51:02am

re: #321 lawhawk

Trump’s theory of payback revenge: punish people you need, while you still need them! (See his threats to Sen Flake) https://t.co/dizBnNBFfE

— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 16, 2016

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FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 6:53:00am

re: #321 lawhawk

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Seriously, this is almost comical.

It’s spiteful…
Ohio is being punished for voting for Kasich

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:53:40am

Fun fact: “My first choice from start!” has been part of Trump’s self-written vows at all three of his weddings. https://t.co/9pKnrrxsqd

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 16, 2016

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 6:54:13am

Mornign!

I had my TV set for MSNBC from last evening watching the Turkey coverage. So, as soon as flipped on the TV I see they are in Cleveland and starting their coverage of the Republican convention.

They found Trump’s Black!

That’s right, they have proven the poll that showed 0% Black voters in Ohio wrong at the same time.

Ken Blackwell!

Yep…good ol’ Ken Blackwell is in Cleveland getting ready for some Trump backing and telling other Ohio Blacks why he too has gone against what he first thought of Trump and why he is all Trump love now.

Gah. Not a way to start a nice Saturday in Ohio. Blackwell is bad juju.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:56:30am

Turkey halted American-led strikes against the Islamic State in the wake of military coup https://t.co/mShtZ87jUg

— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 16, 2016

Turkish military authorities have now closed the airspace around Incirlik Air Base, U.S. official says https://t.co/oif96HJjnW

— CNN (@CNN) July 16, 2016

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FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 6:56:43am

Oh my God… pic.twitter.com/If507fxar5

— Kroony (@DeKroonCat) July 15, 2016

Hanes TV Commercial For Kitten Softness

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 6:57:57am

Instead of the historic escalator, Trump/Pence will be on historic stage where Inner Circle political roast is held pic.twitter.com/c038Ho8Y12

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) July 16, 2016

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FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 6:58:50am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base has been sealed and the power cut off, says U.S. consulate https://t.co/2J8OHYDy4E pic.twitter.com/RBEZHVKA2s

— CNN (@CNN) July 16, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 16, 2016 • 6:59:07am

re: #320 electrotek

Pakistani model Qandeel Baloch was murdered by her brother and the amount of Pakistanis on social media justifying this is unbelievable:

I only just heard about her a few days ago from a BBC article. Now I find she’s been murdered. Terrible.

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 7:01:38am

re: #157 majii

What turns me off about the pics is the impression I get that from the way he looks at the camera, he thinks he’s all that and ten bags of chips when he’s not.

You don’t even need images to get that feeling from Milo. All he has to do is type or speak and arrogant asswipe is in evidence. He is total show with no go.

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 7:03:46am

re: #321 lawhawk

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Seriously, this is almost comical.

Optics.

Or, did the Ohio contingent not want to be seen up front taking a cue from Ohio Johnny Kasich and this is another Trump painting a happy a face?

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 7:04:10am

re: #296 Dr. Matt

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In many ways, Pence is even more dangerous and even more ignorant than Trump.

Hey, check the left navigation! Is that Comic Sans I see? How appropriate.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 7:04:11am

Kudlow just wrote in National Review that Trump’s pick of Pence and declaring war on ISIS were ‘home runs.’ Seriously.

Trump continues to be a farce, a complete and total shitshow. I worry that team Hill will assume he’ll implode and lay back, give some $ or focus more on state races. They have to step on the gas and utterly crush him. The damage this guy will do is hard to fathom.

335

Skip Intro Jul 16, 2016 • 7:04:52am

The TP logo is nowhere to be found on either the Trump or GOP convention site.

Also I see Chris Christie has agreed to one more indignity by speaking at the convention.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 7:07:13am

Ill Douche and The Caveman.

The convention should be good time.

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electrotek Jul 16, 2016 • 7:08:43am

re: #330 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I only just heard about her a few days ago from a BBC article. Now I find she’s been murdered. Terrible.

I don’t want to bring up any false equivalence by asking what would happen if Kardashians were killed in the same fashion, but by some culture warrior who felt they were a disgrace to American cultural mores.

I’m just so upset and angry that she was brutally killed for some twisted sense of honor.

Seriously, Pakistan is an embarrassment and events like these have made us and our faith the most heavily disliked on the planet.

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I Would Prefer Not To Jul 16, 2016 • 7:09:25am

re: #289 darthstar

I only play the game while I’m driving…and I wear my seat belt.

Is someone holding your beer?

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Skip Intro Jul 16, 2016 • 7:11:01am

re: #321 lawhawk

With both Ca and NY sitting in the front, the odds of someone yelling “Show us your tits” when Melania speaks has gone above 50%.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 7:12:14am

This is awesomers:

I just published “The RNC isn’t a strategic political event — it’s a celebration” https://t.co/5T1pgPOldt

— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) July 16, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:16:11am

Coffee shop charges more ‘if you’re mean’: https://t.co/lDsikfNTDl pic.twitter.com/wJyecMhCzl

— Local 12/WKRC-TV (@Local12) July 16, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:18:22am

SAD! Trump/Pence campaign scrubs “screw you” branding after one day of massive ridicule https://t.co/HRKvrrZn6z pic.twitter.com/iDcH1kdmU9

— TBogg (@tbogg) July 16, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Jul 16, 2016 • 7:22:01am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Make the brand great again again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:22:43am

I keep accidentally saying “Trump Pants.” Tuesday’s podcast should be fun. #TrumpPants

— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) July 16, 2016

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 7:23:32am

re: #320 electrotek

Pakistani model Qandeel Baloch was murdered by her brother and the amount of Pakistanis on social media justifying this is unbelievable:

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But all cultures are the same.//

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:25:00am

re: #327 FormerDirtDart

Wait until he realizes they taste just like chicken.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:25:53am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’re abandoning TP (appropriate acronym) for the more colorful “asswipe”…same meaning.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 7:26:15am

I’m trying to figure you how you test for sharia. Waterboarding?

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 7:27:03am

re: #343 Barefoot Grin

Make the brand great again again.

A dollar sign with an ultrasound wand through it.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:27:48am

Breaking the mattress of America. pic.twitter.com/M4Cq62YS2c

— Full Frontal (@FullFrontalSamB) July 15, 2016

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sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 7:28:28am

re: #282 Dr Lizardo

Anyone here seen Narcos? I was thinking of binge-watching it this evening.

Is it binge-watch worthy?

I can recommend for your binge-watching enjoyment a German TV series called Deutschland ‘83….an eight episode series with part of its story being the NATO Able Archer 83 exercise.

Anybody who enjoys this show… would also really enjoy “The Americans”.

Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys are an apparently ordinary suburban couple in 1980’s Virginia. They own a travel agency, they have a couple of kids, and they’re also deep-cover KGB agents. Noah Emmerich, their next door neighbor, is an FBI agent in the counter-espionage division. Richard Thomas, Frank Langella and Margo Martindale have significant supporting roles.

There’s an episode in Season 1 about Reagan’s shooting; other episodes have covered mujahadeen, contras, the TV movie “The Day After”, Arpanet…

There’s two more seasons left; I hope they end with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:29:57am

re: #348 SoundGuy 2016

I’m trying to figure you how you test for sharia. Waterboarding?

You just need to ask the right questions…if you have the knack for it:

Ooh, my little pretty one, my pretty one
When you gonna give me some time, Sharia
Ooh, you make my motor run, my motor run
Got it coming off o’ the line, Sharia

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 7:30:08am

re: #348 SoundGuy 2016

I’m trying to figure you how you test for sharia. Waterboarding?

1) Ask subject to eat bacon.
If yes, release.
If no, go to 2)

2) Ask subject to show you his pupik.
If he pulls up his shirt to show you his bellybutton, release.
If he hesitates, or pulls down his pants to show you his penis, shoot him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:30:42am

Man with ‘Skinhead,’ swastikas tattooed over his body wanted in triple murder. https://t.co/3sYA009t5j #KOIN6News pic.twitter.com/rF1aq0MTx0

— Brent Weisberg (@BrentKOIN) July 16, 2016

WOODLAND, Wash. (KOIN) — A man with numerous Nazi tattoos is the prime suspect in a triple murder that happened late Friday in Woodland.

Brent W. Luyster, 35, may be driving either a gold Ford Explorer with a cargo rack and a Washington plate of ATD-5294 or a white Ford Explorer with a Washington plate of AYH-9994 the Clark County Sheriff’s Office said.

truth in advertising, I suppose…

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:31:20am

re: #353 Blind Frog Belly White

If he hesitates, or pulls down his pants to show you his penis, shoot him.

We’re talking about people here, not Pokemon.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 7:31:55am

re: #348 SoundGuy 2016

I’m trying to figure you how you test for sharia. Waterboarding?

You ask nicely. If they deny, you offer to eat some bacon. If they refuse, you know you’re dealing with an anti-American New York Liberal J Muslim. Deport.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 7:32:30am

re: #352 darthstar

You just need to ask the right questions…if you have the knack for it:

Ooh, my little pretty one, my pretty one
When you gonna give me some time, Sharia
Ooh, you make my motor run, my motor run
Got it coming off o’ the line, Sharia

SHARIA!
I just met a law named Sharia!
And suddenly I see,
How wonderful a law can beeee!
SHARIA!
I’ll never stop saying Sharia!

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 7:32:53am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

SAD! Trump/Pence campaign scrubs “screw you” branding after one day of massive ridicule

I knew they’d bag that logo. Trump’s probably going to sue the artist now.

I giggle inside when I think of how that asshole must be raging right now. If there’s anything that ersatz tough guy is vulnerable to, it’s ridicule.

His staff is probably hiding under their desks right now.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:33:00am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

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truth in advertising, I suppose…

Does he have any distinguishing marks?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:33:05am

John Kerry says U.S. would entertain extradition request for cleric Turkey’s president blames for coup attempt. https://t.co/8i7dlYqWKU

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 16, 2016

LUXEMBOURG (AP) — The Obama administration would entertain an extradition request for the U.S.-based cleric that Turkey’s president is blaming for a failed coup attempt, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Saturday.

But he said Turkey’s government would have to prove Fethullah Gulen’s wrongdoing.

Visiting Luxembourg, Kerry said Turkey hasn’t yet requested that the United States send home Gulen, who left Turkey in 1999.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 7:34:06am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh look. Another ‘lone wolf.’

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 7:34:42am

re: #351 sagehen

Anybody who enjoys this show… would also really enjoy “The Americans”.

Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys are an apparently ordinary suburban couple in 1980’s Virginia. They own a travel agency, they have a couple of kids, and they’re also deep-cover KGB agents. Noah Emmerich, their next door neighbor, is an FBI agent in the counter-espionage division. Richard Thomas, Frank Langella and Margo Martindale have significant supporting roles.

There’s an episode in Season 1 about Reagan’s shooting; other episodes have covered mujahadeen, contras, the TV movie “The Day After”, Arpanet…

There’s two more seasons left; I hope they end with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Seconded. Great show. We still have a season to watch, but our TV viewing falls off in Summertime. We’ll pick it up once there’s less to do outside.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 7:35:43am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Scenario: Turkey supplies a couple of hundreds of, ahem, testimonies about ~~Trots~~ Gülen being at the head of the conspiracy. US’ move?

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 7:35:59am

DOES SHARIA MAKE YOUR MOTOR RUN? YOUR MOTOR RUN? YOU ARE UNDER OATH.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 7:36:57am

This is amazing performance art: pic.twitter.com/cq10W3RmRr

— Alyssa Rosenberg (@AlyssaRosenberg) July 16, 2016

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Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 7:38:54am

re: #363 Nyet

Scenario: Turkey supplies a couple of hundreds of, ahem, testimonies about ~~Trots~~ Gülen being at the head of the conspiracy. US’ move?

We find a way to hand him over. Our efforts against Daesh are too important to put at risk over one man. If victory means handing Gülen over to be murdered to assuage Erdogan paranoia, then that must be done.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:39:27am

So, the humpbacks are here again. Not as many as last year but we do get to see the occasional spray from our dining room. Yesterday, as my wife and I were getting ready to leave for dinner, I looked out the window and saw one do a full breach out of the water. I know, we’ve all seen fish jump…but this was a mammal, and it was thirty fucking feet long. Really was something. I felt like a kid again I was so excited.

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Great White Snark Jul 16, 2016 • 7:40:17am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

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truth in advertising, I suppose…

A dishonor killer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:40:47am

Trump tweeted Pence event was to be a news conference but media positioned behind rows of guests. pic.twitter.com/XqE6sW92JR

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) July 16, 2016

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Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 7:40:51am

re: #367 darthstar

So, the humpbacks are here again. Not as many as last year but we do get to see the occasional spray from our dining room. Yesterday, as my wife and I were getting ready to leave for dinner, I looked out the window and saw one do a full breach out of the water. I know, we’ve all seen fish jump…but this was a mammal, and it was thirty fucking feet long. Really was something. I felt like a kid again I was so excited.

Do take photos if you get a chance.

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FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 7:41:19am

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mostly Manhattan grassroots Rs here, organizers tell me. Lots of spots for kids (not donors) despite limited seats. pic.twitter.com/QyMxURrVWa

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) July 16, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:41:33am

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 7:43:05am

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

No

It’s vital to give up your principles at the earliest convenient moment.

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 7:43:09am

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

We find a way to hand him over. Our efforts against Daesh are too important to put at risk over one man. If victory means handing Gülen over to be murdered to assuage Erdogan paranoia, then that must be done.

What?

Dark’s back. Groan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:43:26am

re: #371 FormerDirtDart

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The kids look bored to tears…or wondering what they did to deserve this punishment.

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Great White Snark Jul 16, 2016 • 7:44:14am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Plots within plots within plots.
Frank Herbert “Dune”

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:44:39am

I wonder do you see your soul when it leaves your body or do you just one day realize it’s not there? pic.twitter.com/rC597gDkLN

— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) July 16, 2016

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freetoken Jul 16, 2016 • 7:44:42am

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

Nonsense. We should only hand over someone if they are truly guilty of committing a crime, which has yet to be shown in the case of Gulen.

There is no reason we have to abandon our own morals.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:44:46am

re: #370 Dark_Falcon

Do take photos if you get a chance.

A friend of mine went out on her boat and got a couple of good pics the other day. They really are close to shore.

Coming up with a mouthful of sardines…

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 7:45:41am

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

We find a way to hand him over. Our efforts against Daesh are too important to put at risk over one man. If victory means handing Gülen over to be murdered to assuage Erdogan paranoia, then that must be done.

I know how I would handle it.

Turkey would have to hand over a case that’s provable in a US Court. In other words, beyond a reasonable doubt,with verifiable evidence that can be corroborated via multiple independent sources.

Otherwise…….forget it. I wouldn’t hand anyone over that thug Erdogan. Under no circumstances. Let him scream. Fuck him.

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 7:45:54am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hmmm. Maybe they should just leave the logo as is.

Pence seems more than willing to take one for the team.

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sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 7:46:08am

re: #348 SoundGuy 2016

I’m trying to figure you how you test for sharia. Waterboarding?

theatlantic.com
Sharia Does Not Mean What Newt Gingrich Thinks It Means
One country that officially endorses the Muslim legal system is one of the politician’s favorites—Israel.

So, apart from the obviously unconstitutional quality of Gingrich’s demand—and its deeply counterproductive national security component—another question is worth raising: Does the Israeli government’s support for the existence of sharia courts—the government actually pays the salaries of sharia judges—cast doubt on the Jewish state’s commitment to Western values? Should Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, be questioned by American authorities for advancing the cause of sharia? And what about Israel’s president, Reuven Rivlin, who, in a recent ceremony welcoming the appointment of seven new Muslim court judges, quoted the following passage from the Quran: “Indeed, did We send Our apostles with all evidence of truth, and through them We bestowed revelation from on high, and gave you a balance so that men might behave with equity.”

For the sake of consistency, if nothing else, Gingrich ought to call for the investigation of these sharia-supporting Israelis.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:46:26am

re: #378 freetoken

Nonsense. We should only hand over someone if they are truly guilty of committing a crime, which has yet to be show in the case of Gulen.

There is no reason we have to abandon our own morals.

Well, it is RNC time. Remember kids, be safe. No looking for Pokemon in the men’s room at the convention. It’s full of congressmen hiding from the cameras.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 7:46:27am

re: #379 darthstar

A friend of mine went out on her boat and got a couple of good pics the other day. They really are close to shore.

Coming up with a mouthful of sardines…

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Sardine?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:48:01am

There ae sso far no recognizable NY political faces in the crowd at the Trump/Pence kickoff event.

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) July 16, 2016

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 7:48:09am

re: #374 ObserverArt

And with such an “essential DF” comment. *gag*

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 7:49:03am

re: #371 FormerDirtDart

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My bet - this will be one surly-ass press event that will go kinda like this.

Trump, Pence walk on stage…

Trump: Here’s my running mate, Mike Pence. No questions, please. Thank you.

Trump, Pence walk off stage.

Reporters yell questions. Trump security step forward menacingly, telling reporters Mr. Trump said no questions.

End.

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FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 7:51:23am

re: #378 freetoken

Turkey need only final credible charges and properly file their legal actions for extradition actions to be initiated.
Guilt need not be proved.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:51:29am

@NPRinskeep @SpeakerRyan @realDonaldTrump He’ll just choose the latter and let the media give him a pass on the other two.

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 16, 2016

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 7:51:44am

I there a live link to the train wreck? I’m in the mood to watch this.

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 7:52:04am

re: #380 Dr Lizardo

I know how I would handle it.

Turkey would have to hand over a case that’s provable in a US Court. In other words, beyond a reasonable doubt,with verifiable evidence that can be corroborated via multiple independent sources.

Otherwise…….forget it. I wouldn’t hand anyone over that thug Erdogan. Under no circumstances. Let him scream. Fuck him.

But that would be all about rule of law and we know certain Republicans are very willing to toss that thinking out for some quick political expediency.

It’s not like Western political mucking about has ever backfired and cause more issues in the Middle East before. We got rid of Sadam and look at how well that has all worked out. It may have led to ISIS.

So feed evil what may be good to end a current evil that will most likely create more evil where we once had some good. Or something. Anything.

Wait…this is a circle of jerkery…play that tune again..

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 7:52:08am

re: #388 FormerDirtDart

Yep. But it should be more than tortured confessions.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 7:52:13am

re: #387 makeitstop

My bet - this will be one surly-ass press event that will go kinda like this.

Trump, Pence walk on stage…

Trump: Here’s my running mate, Mike Pence. No questions, please. Thank you.

Trump, Pence walk off stage.

Reporters yell questions. Trump security step forward menacingly, telling reporters Mr. Trump said no questions.

End.

“Washin’ton Post,huh? Nice newspaper you got there. Be a shame if sump’in’ happened to it.”

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freetoken Jul 16, 2016 • 7:52:23am

re: #388 FormerDirtDart

Turkey need only final credible charges and properly file their legal actions for extradition actions to be initiated.
Guilt need not be proved.

Strictly speaking, yes.

But even that has not been done.

And “credible” charges are going to be difficult when the Erdogan regime itself has become notorious.

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ipsos Jul 16, 2016 • 7:53:02am

I know he’s said he doesn’t want to do it… but wouldn’t it be awesome to watch Joe Biden as a third-term VP? Just the debates against Pence would be priceless.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:53:02am

A Giant Billboard of Trump and Cruz Kissing, Just Went Up Outside the Republican Convention #p2 #tcot pic.twitter.com/99cvPzb3px

— (((R.Saddler))) (@Politics_PR) July 14, 2016

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Great White Snark Jul 16, 2016 • 7:53:07am

re: #378 freetoken

Um, just as a point of logic. Extradition for trial. Guilt is still in question by sheer definition.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:55:19am

Still think this is the best pic from the protests last week.

@metaquest So true, unfortunately #TrainWrecks fuel MSM, audience can’t avert their eyes. Loved your comment here:https://t.co/3VL1hpfwvn

— Arapaho415 (@arapaho415) July 16, 2016

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freetoken Jul 16, 2016 • 7:55:30am

I guess my point is… that it will be hard to argue that Erdogan can present a case that we would accept unless our own investigation finds that Gulen was behind something we find objectionable enough to warrant his removal to Turkey.

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sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 7:56:11am

re: #367 darthstar

So, the humpbacks are here again. Not as many as last year but we do get to see the occasional spray from our dining room. Yesterday, as my wife and I were getting ready to leave for dinner, I looked out the window and saw one do a full breach out of the water. I know, we’ve all seen fish jump…but this was a mammal, and it was thirty fucking feet long. Really was something. I felt like a kid again I was so excited.

How close do those puppies get to the shore!??!!

I’ve been whale-watching, but we were at least 20 minutes out of port before we saw any.

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electrotek Jul 16, 2016 • 7:56:17am

Non of the brother/father would tolerate such vulgarity by sister/daughter same there is no justification of killing. Stop promoting both

— Syeda Sara Sohaib (@Sohaib547) July 16, 2016

False equivalence in action here. How is a woman being “vulgar” the same as killing?

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:56:26am

Above-mentioned train wreck

RNC official website just now. convention opens Monday. pic.twitter.com/SlabRATp58

— Tom Sherwood (@tomsherwood) July 16, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:57:11am

Elizabeth Warren is tweet storming:

.@realDonaldTrump & @mike_pence are a perfect match: Two small, insecure, weak men who use hate & fear to divide our country & our people.

— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) July 16, 2016

Of COURSE @realDonaldTrump – a guy who calls women fat pigs & bimbos – picked a VP who is famous for trying to control women’s bodies.

— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) July 16, 2016

The @GOP platform is the most anti-choice ever: defund @PPFA & denounce all abortion. Even cases of rape, incest & woman’s potential death.

— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) July 16, 2016

What’s worse? @realDonaldTrump & @mike_pence’s sexism isn’t some radical fringe of the @GOP. They’re in line with the party platform.

— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) July 16, 2016

more at her TL

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:57:48am

Who needs a schedule. Fuck it! We’re doing this live! Like the Jerry Lewis telethon, only without any kind of positive message.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 7:58:00am

Sign at the podium for the VP announcement does not include Pence’s name.
It’s a usual Trump sign.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 7:58:32am

re: #399 freetoken

I guess my point is… that it will be hard to argue that Erdogan can present a case that we would accept unless our own investigation finds that Gulen was behind something we find objectionable enough to warrant his removal to Turkey.

I’d agree with you on that, certainly. Anything that comes from Erdogan is simply not to be trusted; that being said, if a Justice Department investigation were to indeed reveal the Mr. Gülen had actively conspired to overthrow the democratically elected government of the Turkish Republic, then by all means, he should be deported to stand trial. That is a very grave offense, to put it mildly.

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 7:58:38am

re: #397 Great White Snark

Um, just as a point of logic. Extradition for trial. Guilt is still in question by sheer definition.

I’m not sure I am reading your comment properly, but are you saying allow them a trial?

You do know how a trial will most likely go in a country like Turkey right?

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 7:58:57am

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

Elizabeth Warren is tweet storming:

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more at her TL

I like her when she’s fighting on the Senate floor. Tweeting is meaningless - which is why I do it.

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Great White Snark Jul 16, 2016 • 8:00:09am

Maybe you guys are a lot more up on Turkish internal politics than I. Those of you that have put in the time or have the experience or not included in the following.

We have no certainty, endless facts and factors simply not in evidence. Makes it hard to judge events like a possible extradition without good assurances at the least. We would be all over another country to extradite a person that started violence here. Rightly so. A violent plot against the Obama admin. That resulted in deaths here. That could come to extradite or expect the Marines.

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:00:53am

re: #408 darthstar

I like her when she’s fighting on the Senate floor. Tweeting is meaningless - which is why I do it.

She gets right under Trump’s skin with her Tweets, as we’ve seen before.

And posted right before the VP presser? Intentional, to fuck with him, because she knows he has to read them.

He cannot restrain himself.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:01:54am

re: #401 electrotek

A woman flaunting her sexuality on her own terms is considered vulgar.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 8:01:56am

re: #401 electrotek

And she apparently thinks she’s a feminist or something.

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Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:03:02am

re: #378 freetoken

Nonsense. We should only hand over someone if they are truly guilty of committing a crime, which has yet to be shown in the case of Gulen.

There is no reason we have to abandon our own morals.

If the alternative is Turkey ceases co-operating with us against Daesh and proceeds to kick our A-10s out of Incirlik Air Base? More people will die as the war drags on. I won’t see hundreds or thousands die to save one man who as far as I know isn’t a US citizen (if he were a citizen, that would be different).

Though Incirlik is currently on lockdown, though Erdogan hasn’t accused the US of anything. But given the confused situation in the air last night, this doesn’t surprise me.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 16, 2016 • 8:03:05am

re: #349 SoundGuy 2016

A dollar sign with an ultrasound wand through it.

Just about perfect!

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:03:45am

Link to presser at TPM.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 8:03:51am

re: #401 electrotek

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False equivalence in action here. How is a woman being “vulgar” the same as killing?

Man, I tried a couple times to write a post responding to that tweet, but I can’t do it without boiling over into punishment fantasies for the “honor” killers.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 8:03:59am

re: #409 Great White Snark

If there was credible evidence. Is there anything beyond what an Islamist strongman says?

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Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 8:04:09am

re: #410 makeitstop

She gets right under Trump’s skin with her Tweets, as we’ve seen before.
And posted right before the VP presser? Intentional, to fuck with him, because she knows he has to read them.

He cannot restrain himself.

[To the tune of Rawhide]

Trollin, trollin, trollin,
Look at Warren rollin’
Donnie’s head explodin’….

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:04:38am

re: #413 Dark_Falcon

Still, absolutely no.
And your suggestion is horrifying.

420

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:04:40am

Lol. The campaign sign at the podium only says “TRUMP.”

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 8:05:11am

re: #413 Dark_Falcon

I won’t see hundreds or thousands die to save one man who as far as I know isn’t a US citizen (if he were a citizen, that would be different).

Why would that be different? I assure you that an American’s life is not more valuable than that of a non-American.

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bratwurst Jul 16, 2016 • 8:05:16am

While we wait for the Trump-Pence rollout to begin, let’s check in on Chris Christie pic.twitter.com/ETVDAoL70q

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) July 16, 2016

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b_sharp Jul 16, 2016 • 8:05:26am

re: #223 Anymouse

Twilight turned to dark here in The Pas at 11PM. I must be in the far north or something.

So?

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Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:05:26am

So Pence doesn’t even merit a mention on the podium. First choice my ass @realDonaldTrump

— Armando (@armandodkos) July 16, 2016

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:05:44am

They’re late as usual. Trump’s backstage reading Warren’s tweets.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:05:52am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still, absolutely no.
And your suggestion is horrifying.

I suggest Trial By Combat.

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:06:01am

re: #408 darthstar

I like her when she’s fighting on the Senate floor. Tweeting is meaningless - which is why I do it.

It wasn’t meaningless to the Sanders campaign. I’m surprised you think this way, or have you recently changed your opinion and are now downplaying its real play in current politics?

And I write this as a non-tweeter…but always an observer!

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:07:00am

‘You Can’t Always Get What You Want’ playing. Heh.

Damn it, I wish Hunter Thompson was still alive.

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sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 8:07:43am

re: #413 Dark_Falcon

If the alternative is Turkey ceases co-operating with us against Daesh and proceeds to kick our A-10s out of Incirlik Air Base? More people will die as the war drags on. I won’t see hundreds or thousands die to save one man who as far as I know isn’t a US citizen (if he were a citizen, that would be different).

Though Incirlik is currently on lockdown, though Erdogan hasn’t accused the US of anything. But given the confused situation in the air last night, this doesn’t surprise me.

That’s the kind of short-term thinking that led us to support the Mujahadeen. They were fighting communists! Crucial interests were at stake!! How dare anybody suggest it might backfire on us? (also, Mosaddegh. What fucking nerve he had, trying to nationalize their oil and be insufficiently subservient to BP. We’ll show him!)

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 8:08:21am

re: #413 Dark_Falcon

If the alternative is Turkey ceases co-operating with us against Daesh and proceeds to kick our A-10s out of Incirlik Air Base? More people will die as the war drags on. I won’t see hundreds or thousands die to save one man who as far as I know isn’t a US citizen (if he were a citizen, that would be different).

Though Incirlik is currently on lockdown, though Erdogan hasn’t accused the US of anything. But given the confused situation in the air last night, this doesn’t surprise me.

Though…though…that’s a lot of thoughs, which usually are an admission, or at minimum, a concession of an opposing point of view.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:08:31am

re: #428 makeitstop

‘You Can’t Always Get What You Want’ playing. Heh.

Damn it, I wish Hunter Thompson was still alive.

Now playing at #TrumpPence: Rolling Stones “You can’t always get what you want.”
And now, Mike Pence.
Not making this up.

— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) July 16, 2016

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Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:09:51am

re: #421 Nyet

Why would that be different? I assure you that an American’s life is not more valuable than that of a non-American.

Because I regard the US government as have a special obligation to its citizens that it does not owe foreigners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:10:08am

Responses to this tweet are hysterically funny:

#Cleveland!! pic.twitter.com/LvMBS1Kroe

— OMAROSA (@OMAROSA) July 16, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Jul 16, 2016 • 8:10:25am

re: #422 bratwurst

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It’s like pouring the flask into the bottle.

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Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:12:01am

I wonder if Trump has the permission of the Rolling Stones to use the “You can’t always get what your want” song at the event.

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darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 8:12:10am

re: #427 ObserverArt

It wasn’t meaningless to the Sanders campaign. I’m surprised you think this way, or have you recently changed your opinion and are now downplaying its real play in current politics?

And I write this as a non-tweeter…but always an observer!

I mean tweeting barbs at someone. Yes, it gets a little bit of attention, but at the end of the day it’s just momentary banter. Using social media to organize and motivate is smart, I will say. I just don’t pay attention to the petty digs between Warren and Trump. That’s not what this election is about for me.

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BeachDem Jul 16, 2016 • 8:12:22am

re: #325 ObserverArt

Mornign!

I had my TV set for MSNBC from last evening watching the Turkey coverage. So, as soon as flipped on the TV I see they are in Cleveland and starting their coverage of the Republican convention.

They found Trump’s Black!

That’s right, they have proven the poll that showed 0% Black voters in Ohio wrong at the same time.

Ken Blackwell!

Yep…good ol’ Ken Blackwell is in Cleveland getting ready for some Trump backing and telling other Ohio Blacks why he too has gone against what he first thought of Trump and why he is all Trump love now.

Gah. Not a way to start a nice Saturday in Ohio. Blackwell is bad juju.

If anything nefarious is ever going on in Ohio, Ken Blackwell is always the prime suspect in my mind. He is a horrible person.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 8:13:02am

I understand someone using a cynical “balance of good and evil” calculation. We all do at some point. But: once you appeal to a greater evil of hundreds of thousands otherwise dying, you can’t then make a 180 and say that this matters only as long as the person to be sacrificed is not a citizen of some country of another. If you do, your whole moral argument loses any force it might have had.

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:13:18am

re: #435 Tigger2

I wonder if Trump has the permission of using the Rolling Stones “You can’t always get what your want” song at the event.

He must have the rights - probably included under Trump Tower’s BMI/ASCAP agreement.

That said, the Stones hate Trump. Keef once threatened to cut him.

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Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:13:41am

re: #435 Tigger2

I wonder if Trump has the permission of Rolling Stones to use the “You can’t always get what your want” song at the event.

No.

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sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 8:13:43am

re: #421 Nyet

Why would that be different? I assure you that an American’s life is not more valuable than that of a non-American.

Depends who you ask.

President Bartlet: Why is a Kundunese life worth less to me than an American life?
Will Bailey: I don’t know, sir, but it is.

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Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:13:43am

re: #428 makeitstop

‘You Can’t Always Get What You Want’ playing. Heh.

Damn it, I wish Hunter Thompson was still alive.

The song is on point, though. Pence isn’t what Donald Trump would really want, but he fits much of what Trump needs.

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Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 8:13:57am

re: #432 Dark_Falcon

Because I regard the US government as have a special obligation to its citizens that it does not owe foreigners.

No, stupid. Either you’re making a moral argument and you can’t differentiate, or your “argument” has been a pile of bullshit all along.

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Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:14:10am

Do I have this right- Pence isn’t even there?

445

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:14:17am

re: #413 Dark_Falcon

If the alternative is Turkey ceases co-operating with us against Daesh and proceeds to kick our A-10s out of Incirlik Air Base? More people will die as the war drags on. I won’t see hundreds or thousands die to save one man who as far as I know isn’t a US citizen (if he were a citizen, that would be different).

Though Incirlik is currently on lockdown, though Erdogan hasn’t accused the US of anything. But given the confused situation in the air last night, this doesn’t surprise me.

I think you are looking at this way too simply…and only in military terms. I believe that thinking has gotten us in deep in the Middle East already.

But lets go with your thinking. How do you know that what happened in Turkey isn’t Erdogan already laying the groundwork for a big change that would end up with us getting kicked out anyway?

Maybe Obama has a feel for what might be a relationship that isn’t all that strong and may be failing. So, he is willing to play this to see what is really going on. In other words force Erdogan’s hand to see where he really stands.

And where does Putin and Russia stand in all this? Are they involved in some of the current Turkey mess?

446

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:14:46am

Trump has arrived at the podium.

447

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:14:48am

re: #442 Dark_Falcon

The song is on point, though. Pence isn’t what Donald Trump would really want, but he fits much of what Trump needs.

Somehow, I doubt that anyone on Team Trump gave it any amount of thought. It was on some aid’s playlist.

448

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:14:48am

The fuhrer makes his way to the podium…

449

Great White Snark Jul 16, 2016 • 8:14:49am

re: #417 Nyet

If there was credible evidence. Is there anything beyond what an Islamist strongman says?

I don’t yet know, so I got nothin yet. If the evidence is weak, so is the case for action.

450

freetoken Jul 16, 2016 • 8:14:53am

re: #444 Frankie Five Angels

Do I have this right- Pence isn’t even there?

We’re not sure any of the Republicans in this Presidential race were really “there” to begin with…

451

jaunte Jul 16, 2016 • 8:15:01am

re: #428 makeitstop

‘You Can’t Always Get What You Want’ playing. Heh.

Damn it, I wish Hunter Thompson was still alive.

Always a good move for a pep rally to begin with the admission that “this really isn’t what we wanted.”

452

darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 8:15:14am

Kudos, @PhillyDailyNews pic.twitter.com/X8UdcryUDV

— Matt Katz (@mattkatz00) July 16, 2016

453

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:15:20am

He looks like he hasn’t slept in two days.

454

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:15:26am

Is Pence even there?

455

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 8:15:32am

re: #436 darthstar

I mean tweeting barbs at someone. Yes, it gets a little bit of attention, but at the end of the day it’s just momentary banter. Using social media to organize and motivate is smart, I will say. I just don’t pay attention to the petty digs between Warren and Trump. That’s not what this election is about for me.

No, the election is about needling Trump into exposing himself as a thinskinned bullyboy who shouldn’t be trusted with a box of matches, let alone a nuclear arsenal.

456

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:15:45am

Islamic terror attack in France.

*thud*

457

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:16:05am

re: #442 Dark_Falcon

The song is on point, though. Pence isn’t what Donald Trump would really want, but he fits much of what Trump needs.

Yeah Trump really needs a guy women hate as much as Trump.

458

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:16:24am

re: #454 makeitstop

Is Pence even there?

Read the sign at the podium, lol. That should be an indication.

459

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:16:45am

What’s with the lighting?

460

electrotek Jul 16, 2016 • 8:16:46am

Dear @bramerz, this is your employee. Guess which digital agency I will never use now in my Pak offices pic.twitter.com/4MZjQCCMFT

— JugMug (@anthonypermal) July 16, 2016

461

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:16:48am

Donald has so many friends in Turkey…
“Looks like they are resolving the problem…”

O_o

462

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:17:02am

“Resolving the difficulty in Turkey.”

lol

463

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:17:30am

fear, fear, fear, fear…

464

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:18:05am

“They’ve been taken away like we are babies.”

465

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:18:22am

Cliche, cliche, cliche… applause

Fear mongering… applause

More fear mongering…says Clinton was secretly running the government because Obama is too stupid or something…

He’s fucking nasty.

466

PhillyPretzel Jul 16, 2016 • 8:18:28am

re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he keeps hitting that fear button it might break.

467

Barefoot Grin Jul 16, 2016 • 8:18:31am

re: #447 makeitstop

Somehow, I doubt that anyone on Team Trump gave it any amount of thought. It was on some aid’s playlist.

It and “Sweet Emotion” and some country song were on a loop last July when I went to a Trump rally.

468

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:18:32am

“Jobs have been taken away, like we’re babies…”

Huh?

469

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:18:36am

“Mike Pence, my first choice”
“He’s done so much for Indiana…”

470

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:18:36am

“Mike Pence was my first choice.” Total silence.

471

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:19:01am

Pence is a “solid person.”

Wonderful praise there.

472

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:19:05am

re: #429 sagehen

That’s the kind of short-term thinking that led us to support the Mujahadeen. They were fighting communists! Crucial interests were at stake!! How dare anybody suggest it might backfire on us? (also, Mosaddegh. What fucking nerve he had, trying to nationalize their oil and be insufficiently subservient to BP. We’ll show him!)

Support for the Mujahadeen did not translate directly to the rise of the Taliban. There were many decision made in different countries that came between.The decision to use the them to bleed the Red Army remains the correct one in my opinion.

473

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:19:16am

Jobs and opportunity in Indiana? Is he fucking crazy?

474

Nyet Jul 16, 2016 • 8:19:16am

Three comments, and I’ve already had a fill of DF’s sociopathy for the day. I’m outta here.

475

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:19:28am

Obama has put soooo many obstacles in Pence’s way…

476

darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 8:19:33am

re: #442 Dark_Falcon

The song is on point, though. Pence isn’t what Donald Trump would really want, but he fits much of what Trump needs.

So they can count on your vote?

477

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 8:19:42am

By Newt’s logic shouldn’t we be deporting every sovereign citizen and cosplay-triot?

Gingrich clarifies suggestion that American Muslims be tested to see if they are loyal to US https://t.co/UFSuiU8lbZ pic.twitter.com/p62E2wHWzE

— ABC News (@ABC) July 16, 2016

478

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:19:45am

re: #468 Jenner7

“Jobs have been taken away, like we’re babies…”

Huh?

To get a lot of those middle class factory jobs back you would have to get rid of automation.

479

PhillyPretzel Jul 16, 2016 • 8:20:03am

re: #473 Frankie Five Angels

Yes. He is.

480

darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 8:20:07am

re: #458 Frankie Five Angels

Read the sign at the podium, lol. That should be an indication.

Trump/TBD 2016

481

jaunte Jul 16, 2016 • 8:20:08am

In NY, Trump calls Pence his “first choice” with a wave of the hand and a glare at the reporters seated before him
— Robert Costa (@costareports) July 16, 2016

Believe me!

482

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:20:12am

She got away with murder????

483

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:20:18am

Donald says Hillary “got away with murder.”

484

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:20:51am

Isn’t he supposed to announce his VP?

485

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:20:55am

‘Clinton is the embodiment of corruption…’

Kettle - Pot on the white courtesy phone…

Clinton got away with murder? Really??

486

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:21:01am

Donald is flat out lying about Hillary’s emails and server.

487

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:21:07am

Okay, is this a live Trump tweet fest, or a VP announcement? This is just pathetic.

488

Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 8:21:32am

re: #482 Frankie Five Angels

She got away with murder????

Oh, c’mon, you know…………Vince Foster.

*eyeroll*

Keep fuckin’ that chicken, Donnie.

489

Great White Snark Jul 16, 2016 • 8:21:40am

Welp, got trump who I can’t stand on my TV, perhaps a literal Byzantine coup by way of the USA, or not… and stuff to do. Stuff to do wins, see ya all later

490

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:22:16am

re: #442 Dark_Falcon

The song is on point, though. Pence isn’t what Donald Trump would really want, but he fits much of what Trump needs.

Nothing should ever be seen as what Trump needs. That is ignoring the overwhelming facts about who Trump is.

But then, if you need justification, have at it.

491

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:22:18am

RADICAL ISLAM! RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM!!!!

492

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:22:23am

Sooo, he’s comparing her to his VP.

Is this real life? lol

493

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 8:22:28am

re: #472 Dark_Falcon

Support for the Mujahadeen did not translate directly to the rise of the Taliban. There were many decision made in different countries that came between.The decision to use the them to bleed the Red Army remains the correct one in my opinion.

“Let’s give guns to the people who are fighting the people we currently hate! What could possibly go wrong with that?”

Jesus, Dark.

494

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:22:28am

RADICAL ISLAM!
RADICAL ISLAM TERRORISM!!!111!!!

BE AFRAID!!!

495

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:22:33am

re: #445 ObserverArt

I think you are looking at this way too simply…and only in military terms. I believe that thinking has gotten us in deep in the Middle East already.

But lets go with your thinking. How do you know that what happened in Turkey isn’t Erdogan already laying the groundwork for a big change that would end up with us getting kicked out anyway?

Maybe Obama has a feel for what might be a relationship that isn’t all that strong and may be failing. So, he is willing to play this to see what is really going on. In other words force Erdogan’s hand to see where he really stands.

And where does Putin and Russia stand in all this? Are they involved in some of the current Turkey mess?

Sergey’s scenario was just that - A scenario. No demand for Gülen’s extradition has yet been made. I was not proposing we simply hand him over peremptorily. That would indeed be foolish.

496

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:23:04am

re: #487 Frankie Five Angels

Okay, is this a live Trump tweet fest, or a VP announcement? This is just pathetic.

It’s a Trumpilibuster.

497

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:23:07am

Selling fear by the bushel.

Shook mothafucka.

498

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 8:23:12am

@JenniferJJacobs Is he endorsing Pence for President?
— FormerDirtDart (@FormerDirtDart) July 16, 2016

499

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:23:16am

No, dumbfuck. Bush going into Iraq created ISIS.

500

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:23:26am

Hillary twists Donald’s words in her ads…

501

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:24:37am

You said Brexit was gong to break away twenty minutes before the polls closed.

502

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:24:39am

This is really pathetic.

503

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:25:01am

re: #494 Backwoods_Sleuth

RADICAL ISLAM!
RADICAL ISLAM TERRORISM!!!111!!!

BE AFRAID!!!

I don’t wake up every day afraid, that must be why I’m not a Republican.

504

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:25:09am

I can see why he put his friends up front. They were probably ordered to clap at every utterance.

‘…and everybody laughed at me.’ Yes, we did.

505

bratwurst Jul 16, 2016 • 8:25:10am

Presidential timbre!

https://t.co/FXuc6L6O1t pic.twitter.com/zrIX8lqryN

— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) July 16, 2016

Make sure to click the link and read the whole thing. The man is a pathological liar…in case you hadn’t picked up on that yet.

506

darthstar Jul 16, 2016 • 8:25:33am

Beach beckons. I don’t care what Trump is doing. Have a good day, everyone.

507

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:25:47am

Hillary is going to mop the floor with this assclown at the debates.

508

PhillyPretzel Jul 16, 2016 • 8:26:02am

re: #505 bratwurst

Keep retweeting that one.

509

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:26:06am

re: #490 ObserverArt

Nothing should ever be seen as what Trump needs. That is ignoring the overwhelming facts about who Trump is.

But then, if you need justification, have at it.

That way of viewing the Trump campaign precludes objective analysis of it. To say “VP pick #2 counters campaign weaknesses X and Y.” does not translate as “I support this campaign.”

510

Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 8:26:07am

re: #502 Jenner7

This is really pathetic.

Someone needs to place this on an endless loop at Trump’s next presser.

Shut the fuck up, Donny!

511

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:26:33am

Bragging about the primary win. Like Al Bundy reliving that high school game.

512

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:26:35am

“Our message is unbelievable.”

First true thing Donald has said so far.

513

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:27:13am

This is not even close to being the highest taxed nation in the world.

514

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:27:19am

Wonder what Pence is thinking backstage right now…

515

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:27:26am

The miners??

516

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:27:47am

re: #514 Jenner7

Wonder what Pence is thinking backstage right now…

I don’t think he’s even there.

517

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:27:52am

Rambling like a drunk uncle at a wedding.

518

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:28:44am

re: #514 Jenner7

Wonder what Pence is thinking backstage right now…

He’s thinking about lady parts.

519

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:28:46am

re: #517 makeitstop

Rambling like a drunk uncle at a wedding.

An open bar wedding. Perfect for a cheap bastard like him.

520

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:28:47am

re: #493 Blind Frog Belly White

“Let’s give guns to the people who are fighting the people we currently hate! ~~What could possibly go wrong with that?~~”

Jesus, Dark.

I didn’t say that 2nd sentence, nor did I imply it. Blowback has to be risked at times. Where US policy often fails is in the need for planning to avert blowback and then executing said plans.

521

jaunte Jul 16, 2016 • 8:29:15am

Word cloud of this speech wouldn’t have much “Mike” or “Pence.”
— Ari Melber MSNBC (@AriMelber) July 16, 2016

522

freetoken Jul 16, 2016 • 8:29:40am

The problem is… I’m seeing plenty of posters on Facebook doing their best to come up with excuses for why they have to vote for Drumpfskind.

There are so many Americans out there who really do eat up the Fox News/GatewayPundit type of stuff. By the millions.

523

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:29:48am

Rambling about the “Johnson Amendment” that, according to Donald, apparently outlawed evangelicals and how he’s going to get rid of that.

524

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:29:49am

Did he just say he was going to get rid of the Johnson Amendment?

525

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:30:13am

re: #517 makeitstop

Rambling like a drunk uncle at a wedding.

Or like Sarah Palin.

526

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:30:17am

He wants to get rid of the Johnson Amendment.

527

bratwurst Jul 16, 2016 • 8:30:23am

re: #505 bratwurst

Presidential timbre!

[Embedded content]

Make sure to click the link and read the whole thing. The man is a pathological liar…in case you hadn’t picked up on that yet.

Does anyone reading this believe that Trump had “top Muslim leaders” up to his office as he just claimed?

528

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:30:38am

What the fuck is the Johnson Amendment?

529

Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 8:30:55am

re: #524 Frankie Five Angels

Did he just say he was going to get rid of the Johnson Amendment?

No, no, he said he was going to get rid of amending Johnson’s.

Or something.

DRINK!!

530

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:31:07am

You know, the one phrase the Trump keeps using over and over and more and more is “we are going to be law and order.”

There is much to fear in that coming out of this puffy clown’s mouth.

531

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:31:10am

Religious voice has been taken away?

532

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:31:10am

Lyndon Johnson made it a law that evangelicals can’t speak.
Religion needs a voice, a voice that was taken away.

good grief.

533

BeenHereAwhile Jul 16, 2016 • 8:31:12am

re: #428 makeitstop

‘You Can’t Always Get What You Want’ playing. Heh.

Damn it, I wish Hunter Thompson was still alive.

Or Peter Sheridan AKA Chief Boo Hoo turned loose on the Trump Train.

534

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 8:31:13am

While Trump speaks, fundraising email from Pence featuring NEW logo. pic.twitter.com/cEmHhW97XD

— Ali Vitali (@alivitali) July 16, 2016

535

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:31:38am

re: #528 makeitstop

What the fuck is the Johnson Amendment?

en.wikipedia.org

536

jaunte Jul 16, 2016 • 8:31:56am

This Trump speech has been going on for 15 minutes and there is still no sign of Mike Pence.
— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) July 16, 2016

537

ipsos Jul 16, 2016 • 8:32:07am

I feel like my IQ has dropped at least 15 points just watching this derpfest.

538

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:32:33am

re: #527 bratwurst

Does anyone reading this believe that Trump had “top Muslim leaders” up to his office as he just claimed?

Nope.

539

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 8:32:35am

I;m watching the Tour de France, but twitter is giving me the impression that Pence isn’t even on stage yet. Is that correct?

540

Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 8:32:43am

re: #537 ipsos

I feel like my IQ has dropped at least 15 points just watching this derpfest.

Just wait ‘til the convention. It’ll be like a mass lobotomy.

541

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:32:49am

re: #537 ipsos

I feel like my IQ has dropped at least 15 points just watching this derpfest.

At least.

542

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:32:59am

re: #537 ipsos

I feel like my IQ has dropped at least 15 points just watching this derpfest.

I’m about to shut it down. This is a fucking stump speech with a captive audience.

543

jaunte Jul 16, 2016 • 8:33:01am

re: #528 makeitstop

What the fuck is the Johnson Amendment?

Some one told Trump it would be a good pander to the evangelicals to tell them all their church tithes could be given to politicians.

544

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:33:07am

“We can’t be the stupid people anymore.”

too late…

545

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:33:13am

re: #539 FormerDirtDart

I;m watching the Tour de France, but twitter is giving me the impression that Pence isn’t even on stage yet. Is that correct?

You are correct. 25 minutes in.

546

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:33:23am

re: #528 makeitstop

What the fuck is the Johnson Amendment?

The Johnson Amendment refers to a change in the U.S. tax code made in 1954 which prohibited tax-exempt organizations from endorsing or opposing political candidates.

It is named for Lyndon Johnson, who proposed it. He was a senator at the time.

547

bratwurst Jul 16, 2016 • 8:33:38am

So he is going to introduce Pence by bashing NAFTA which Pence supported up until a few days ago?

548

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:33:56am

re: #523 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rambling about the “Johnson Amendment” that, according to Donald, apparently outlawed evangelicals and how he’s going to get rid of that.

This is going down a bad road.

549

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:34:03am

Trump now introducing Mike Pence by attacking NAFTA … which Mike Pence supported

— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) July 16, 2016

550

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:34:41am

re: #514 Jenner7

Wonder what Pence is thinking backstage right now…

I fucked up, : ))

551

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:34:45am

Mike Pence just gained two Pokemon Go levels during this speech

— Matweeter (@jesseltaylor) July 16, 2016

552

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:34:48am

This is like watching a really bad Borscht Belt comedian.

553

jaunte Jul 16, 2016 • 8:34:52am

Can’t remember another VP announcement where the candidate felt it necessary to emphasize it was his first choice
— Savannah Guthrie (@SavannahGuthrie) July 16, 2016

554

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:35:23am

Trump now recapping his victory in Indiana, where Pence endorsed Cruz at the last minute

— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) July 16, 2016

555

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:36:00am

MUST READ.
nytimes.com

556

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:36:05am

“Hi Chris, it’s Mike. You can have him.”

— Mike Memoli (@mikememoli) July 16, 2016

557

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:36:39am

TRIPLE A!!! TRIPLE A!!!!

558

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:36:39am

Ok @KatyTurNBC and @MajorCBS - $1000 if either of you stands up and shouts “@RealDonaldTrump, get to the effing point.”

— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) July 16, 2016

559

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:36:40am

Wait, wait, a better comedian comparison…

This is like watching Lenny Bruce reading his court transcripts on stage.

560

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:36:45am

re: #547 bratwurst

So he is going to introduce Pence by bashing NAFTA which Pence supported up until a few days ago?

It’s a way to ensure the subordinate is kept properly in his place by making him do a flip-flop that makes clear his views are no longer his own. It also services Donald Trump’s ego, about which no more needs to be said.

561

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:37:35am

11:00 - “I’m going to introduce Mike Pence.”
11:31 - “Back to Mike Pence.”
11:32 - “I have a friend building plants in Mexico.”#TrumpPence

— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) July 16, 2016

562

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:38:01am

He really has no idea what he’s talking about does he?

563

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:38:23am

37 minutes in, no sign of Mike.

564

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 8:38:27am

Job growth in US during Obama years: 9.3%
Job growth in Indiana during Obama years: 9.1%https://t.co/7UUoNJ8Guf

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) July 16, 2016

565

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:38:56am

re: #562 Frankie Five Angels

He really has no idea what he’s talking about does he?

Forget it, he’s rolling.

566

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:39:36am

school choice in Indiana = charter schools are great!

oh…

567

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:39:45am

re: #532 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lyndon Johnson made it a law that evangelicals can’t speak.
Religion needs a voice, a voice that was taken away.

good grief.

The fundies will eat that up…big(ly) league.

He is up there selling whatever anyone needs today.

Groan…and now talking about balancing the budget in Indiana. Yeah just like Ohio Donny. Where the costs of running the state were pushed off to the cities and other entities in higher and higher fees. So, overall, the costs to the people are the very same and maybe more, with less services.

Wait ‘til you balance the Fed budget and push it down to the states where they won’t be able to handle it and they’re again facing unbalanced budgets.

568

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 8:39:51am

Unemployment rate in US in May 2016: 4.7%
Unemployment rate in Indiana in May 2016: 5%https://t.co/7UUoNJ8Guf

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) July 16, 2016

569

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:39:52am

He’s reading these facts about Indiana for the very first time, right now.

570

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:40:05am

Do I know how to build a wall?

571

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:40:34am

re: #570 Frankie Five Angels

Do I know how to build a wall?

He knows how to build infrastructure!!11!!!!

572

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 8:40:52am

re: #569 makeitstop

He’s reading these facts about Indiana for the very first time, right now.

This feels like Trump is reading Pence’s Wikipedia page for the first time.
— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) July 16, 2016

573

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:40:58am

Trump: “can you imagine a balanced budget in Indiana” … Indiana is constitutionally mandated to have a balanced budget

— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) July 16, 2016

574

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:41:13am

Maybe he’s stalling until Pence gets in from the airport…

575

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 8:41:17am

re: #520 Dark_Falcon

I didn’t say that 2nd sentence, nor did I imply it. Blowback has to be risked at times. Where US policy often fails is in the need for planning to avert blowback and then executing said plans.

Your approach oozes with unintended consequence and short-term thinking. It’s the kind of thinking that led Administrations of both parties to do things that ‘made sense at the time’ and left horrible consequences we’re still cleaning up.

We supported the Shah in Iran because we thought it was in our interest despite the fact that he was a brutal despot. How’d that work out for us?

Then we supported Saddam Hussein against Iran after supporting the Shah blew up in our faces. How’d THAT work out for us?

Again and again and again, this short term, “In our interest” thinking actually worked AGAINST our interest, just as surely as it had always been against our stated principles, and now it’s hard to find a country whose population takes us seriously when we speak of our principles.

It’s popular on your team to speak of American Exceptionalism, yet everything they espouse in Foreign Policy is completely unexceptional. Instead, its standard fare for every nation that has enough power to force its will on other, weaker countries. The ease with you suggest tossing Gulen to the wolves because its ‘in our interest’ speaks of no principle beyond immediate advantage with no care for the consequences.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:41:30am

This speech is starting to feel like an intentional stall. Are we sure @mike_pence is still in the building??

— Garrett Haake (@GarrettHaake) July 16, 2016

577

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:41:45am

Oh my god, GET ON WITH IT! Jeebus.

578

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:41:52am

If Mike is such a great governor, why is his approval rating less than 30%?

579

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:42:02am

Fact Checkers’ heads exploding
— Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) July 16, 2016

580

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:42:31am

According to Donald, Pence endorsed Cruz because “he was under pressure”.

581

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:42:43am

Finally, Mike Pence shows up!

582

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:42:44am

It only took 42 minutes.

583

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:42:44am

Finally.

584

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:43:19am

Fuckin’ finally.

585

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:43:39am

You make women that have abortions and miscarriages bury the fetuses. FUCK YOU.

586

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:44:03am

Fuck, I’m bored already. That Pence, what a firebrand.

587

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:44:07am

Someone needs to fire the lighting guy.

588

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:44:11am

oh barf……….

589

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:44:45am

re: #587 Frankie Five Angels

Someone needs to fire the lighting guy.

And the sound guy. For such a classy joint, their sound blows.

590

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:44:52am

Did Trump just say that Pence’s endorsement of Cruz was really an endorsement for Trump?

— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) July 16, 2016

Yes.

591

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 8:44:55am

Da Fauq???

Now Trump walks out of the frame as Pence speaks. Didn’t expect that. pic.twitter.com/ilMjDcpHCB

— Ethan Klapper (@ethanklapper) July 16, 2016

592

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:45:30am

Seriously, the lighting blackens their eyes. Maybe it’s being done on purpose because the lighting guy is a troll, lol.

593

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:45:37am

Ronald Reagan!
Ronald Reagan!

594

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:45:54am

re: #542 makeitstop

I’m about to shut it down. This is a fucking stump speech with a captive audience.

I wonder if the FOX “I” counters that loved to count Obama are counting this clown’s use of “I” in addition his own references of Trump.

Oh what am I thinking, of course not.

595

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:46:06am

God picked Pence to be VP.

596

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:46:16am

This Pence guy is one scary motherfucker.

597

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:46:31am

“I’m just a small town boy.”

598

Jayleia Jul 16, 2016 • 8:46:32am

Calling this “amateur hour” is an insult to both amateurs and hours

599

Big Beautiful Door Jul 16, 2016 • 8:47:02am

re: #597 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I’m just a small town boy.”

He took the midnight train going anywhere.

600

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:47:10am

re: #598 Jayleia

Calling this “amateur hour” is an insult to both amateurs and hours

And the English language.

601

freetoken Jul 16, 2016 • 8:47:10am

We can all laugh at this, but millions of Americans will lap this up.

602

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:47:25am

Toilet has walked off the stage leaving Paper alone at the podium.

Toilet/Paper 2016

— Gus Establishment™ (@Gus_802) July 16, 2016

603

ipsos Jul 16, 2016 • 8:47:26am

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604

Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 8:47:35am

re: #595 Backwoods_Sleuth

God picked Pence to be VP.

Damn skippy I picked Mike Pence.

605

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:47:54am

re: #589 makeitstop

And the sound guy. For such a classy joint, their sound blows.

Hey man!

My temp nic is and ode to the last sound guy Trumpenfuhrer wanted to fire.

606

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:48:40am

Do you think he’ll mention how he expanded Medicaid in his state?

607

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:49:00am

Ok, after two minutes of @mike_pence, I take it all back. Can you bring @RealDonaldTrump back up there?#MorePlantStoriesPlease

— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) July 16, 2016

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:49:24am

re: #562 Frankie Five Angels

He really has no idea what he’s talking about does he?

Apparently he doesn’t need to. All he needs is to throw out the chum to the base who wouldn’t know what he was talking about if he knew what he was talking about!

609

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:49:53am

Why did Trump leave the stage?

This is amateur hour…month….year…election cycle.

610

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:50:03am

re: #605 SoundGuy 2016

Hey man!

My temp nic is and ode to the last sound guy Trumpenfuhrer wanted to fire.

Meh, there prolly isn’t even an engineer in the room. It’s probably some cheap-ass out of the box system.

They couldn’t run a line from the mixer to the camera? This sounds like a bad YouTube video.

611

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:51:11am

re: #610 makeitstop

I’m sure they had their crack Social Media director do it. Because internet means you’re good at IT which means you know the difference between balanced and unbalanced audio.

612

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:51:46am

Their new logo is boring as shit.

613

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:51:55am

I bailed. I could feel my life force slowly seeping out just listening to this guy.

Dumb/Boring 2016.

614

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:52:20am

“I’m proud to be at his side today” - Mike Pence while Trump literally leaves the stage after introducing him. pic.twitter.com/W9stP34n7C

— Marv (@Marv_Vien) July 16, 2016

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Fineday Jul 16, 2016 • 8:52:31am

re: #609 Jenner7

Why did Trump leave the stage?

This is amateur hour…month….year…election cycle.

Trump is an old man. Probably needed to take a leak.

616

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:53:00am

“stand with our en…our allies..”

Hahaha.

617

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:53:09am

Shit:

Comes amid shut down of Incirlik air base in Turkey
— John Arterbury (@JohnArterbury) July 16, 2016

618

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:54:02am

re: #612 Jenner7

Their new logo is boring as shit.

And the old sign is still at the podium.

619

Big Beautiful Door Jul 16, 2016 • 8:54:12am

re: #615 Fineday

Trump is an old man. Probably needed to take a leak.

You don’t expect the Donald to just stand there listening to someone else talk, do you? People listen to Trump!

620

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 8:54:36am

re: #615 Fineday

Trump is an old man. Probably needed to take a leak.

Or more accurately, stand at a urinal, looking down at his penis, waiting and hoping for any kind of urine stream after his bladder told him he had to go NOW!!!

621

Timothy Watson Jul 16, 2016 • 8:55:14am

re: #615 Fineday

Trump is an old man. Probably needed to take a leak.

But the lamestream media needed to conduct an investigation into why Hillary Clinton left the debate stage to use the restroom during one of the Democratic debates.

622

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:55:20am

And the music is cutting in and out LOLZ

623

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:55:30am

I asked Thurs morn if Pence was called Wed night and offered VP. Trump campaign said: “This is totally false…Your sources are not accurate”

— Matt Viser (@mviser) July 16, 2016

624

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:55:45am

For the sake of the SCOTUS vote BLUE.

625

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:55:46am

Ivanka and Jared are there.

626

sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 8:55:52am

re: #575 Blind Frog Belly White

Again and again and again, this short term, “In our interest” thinking actually worked AGAINST our interest, just as surely as it had always been against our stated principles, and now it’s hard to find a country whose population takes us seriously when we speak of our principles.

There’s an old joke, “Americans think 100 years is a long time, Europeans think 100 miles is far.”

When it comes to Asia and the Middle East, their idea of “a long time ago” is way the hell longer than Europeans.

Dark is very American in this; he really truly thinks 20 years is so fucking long ago that he can’t understand that other people think it still matters. He’s honestly baffled that most of the world thinks 20 years ago might as well be last Tuesday.

627

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:55:59am

Is is remotely possible Christie is watching this carnival and thinking that maybe not getting VP was a good thing?

628

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:56:10am

Chris Matthews just called it a barnburner.

629

b_sharp Jul 16, 2016 • 8:56:25am

re: #620 Blind Frog Belly White

Or more accurately, stand at a urinal, looking down at his penis, waiting and hoping for any kind of urine stream after his bladder told him he had to go NOW!!!

Flowmax is your friend.

630

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 8:56:30am

Tweety Matthews just called this a barnburner.

Well, something was burning…

631

BeachDem Jul 16, 2016 • 8:56:35am

re: #611 SoundGuy 2016

I’m sure they had their crack Social Media director do it. Because internet means you’re good at IT which means you know the difference between balanced and unbalanced audio.

As Trump’s digital team primarily consists of two people, neither with much/any IT background, I believe your suggestion might be a bridge too far.

Digital Director Brad Parscale
“has worked for years with the Trumps building websites for their real estate enterprises.” B.S. in business finance, international business, economics from Trinity University, 1999.

Director of Social Media Daniel Scavino Jr.
“Longtime Trump confidant.”

632

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:56:58am

re: #596 Frankie Five Angels

This Pence guy is one scary motherfucker.

I did this image yesterday and put it up after it became clear Pence was the guy.

I can be real blockheaded…just look at my record!

633

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:57:01am

re: #612 Jenner7

Their new logo is boring as shit.

That’s because it was depicting the missionary position.

634

b_sharp Jul 16, 2016 • 8:57:03am

re: #620 Blind Frog Belly White

Or more accurately, stand at a urinal, looking down at his penis, waiting and hoping for any kind of urine stream after his bladder told him he had to go NOW!!!

Kind of why I sit down. It can take a long time.

635

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 8:57:47am

re: #628 Frankie Five Angels

Chris Matthews just called it a barnburner.

He’s hung over and phoning it in. That’s the only explanation for that line.

636

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 8:57:59am

re: #628 Frankie Five Angels

Chris Matthews just called it a barnburner.

Tweety’s been day drinking.

637

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 8:58:03am

Chris Matthews just used the word “zany.”

638

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 8:58:04am

re: #621 Timothy Watson

But the lamestream media needed to conduct an investigation into why Hillary Clinton left the debate stage to use the restroom during one of the Democratic debates.

“Lamestream” - seems appropriate.

639

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 8:58:18am

“He will stand with our ene- our allies” https://t.co/GJ61yye1Eg

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) July 16, 2016

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 8:59:19am

re: #612 Jenner7

Their new logo is boring as shit.

All they did was lop off the TP and red bars.

Kneejerk Design.

641

jaunte Jul 16, 2016 • 8:59:54am

Trump’s message - in uncertain times, go with wild, crazy guy w/no experience, no agenda running truly crappy campaign. Compelling.
— Simon Rosenberg (@SimonWDC) July 16, 2016

642

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 9:00:23am

On MSNBC, as Trump/Pence rally playout music runs, accidentally overheard (presumably from studio): “that was so awkward.”
— Jeff B/DDHQ (@EsotericCD) July 16, 2016

643

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:01:24am

re: #634 b_sharp

Kind of why I sit down. It can take a long time.

What you need is hypertension! They’ll give you a diuretic, and that’ll help a lot!
///

Seriously, at 50, I started having the usual issues, but once the doc started me on HCTZ, that went away.

Sadly, Evolution is done with guys our age, and no longer cares if we can pee.

644

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 9:01:30am

re: #628 Frankie Five Angels

Chris Matthews just called it a barnburner.

How was that a barnburner most of that was just the same old tired Republican stuff we have heard for 4 decades, all I did was yawn.

645

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 9:02:09am

Trump/Pence thing ends with the song “All Right Now,” which is about convincing a woman to fuck. So, yeah, that.

— The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit) July 16, 2016

646

Fineday Jul 16, 2016 • 9:02:17am

re: #636 makeitstop

Tweety’s been day drinking.

Urban Dictionary:

barn burner: can also refer to an epic and overpowering flatulent expulsion that smells so vomitous and full of vile toxic fumes that you swear could burn down or melt an actual man-made structure

- Makes sense, doesn’t it?

647

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:02:39am

re: #637 Frankie Five Angels

Chris Matthews just used the word “zany.”

Has he called them ‘cut ups’ yet? Talked about their “cockamamie antics”?

648

Dr Lizardo Jul 16, 2016 • 9:02:41am

re: #620 Blind Frog Belly White

Or more accurately, stand at a urinal, looking down at his penis, waiting and hoping for any kind of urine stream after his bladder told him he had to go NOW!!!

You’re assuming he could actually see it.

649

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 9:03:17am

re: #628 Frankie Five Angels

Chris Matthews just called it a barnburner.

As soon as he said that my TV channel suddenly changed.

650

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 9:04:55am

I’m trying to confirm that they actually had a product showcase at Pence’s Coronation:

Trump’s steaks got a better rollout than Mike Pence. pic.twitter.com/3N1ZYWlBDm

— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) July 16, 2016

651

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:04:55am

re: #648 Dr Lizardo

You’re assuming he could actually see it.

True. He’s got a ‘Dickie Do’

You know, where your belly sticks out more than your Dickie Do?

652

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 9:05:03am

Because nothing attracts the voters you need like playing music from the 60s and 70s.

653

BeachDem Jul 16, 2016 • 9:05:25am

Wonder why both Trump and Pence wore blue ties? Are they trying to tell us something? (Coming up next hour on CNN)
/

654

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:06:24am

re: #652 Frankie Five Angels

Because nothing attracts the voters you need like playing music from the 60s and 70s.

Hey, most of their votes are in THEIR 60s and 70s…

655

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 9:06:33am

re: #651 Blind Frog Belly White

True. He’s got a ‘Dickie Do’

You know, where your belly sticks out more than your Dickie Do?

I envisioned my Saturday morning differently than reading comments about Trump’s dick.

656

Big Beautiful Door Jul 16, 2016 • 9:08:03am

re: #655 makeitstop

I envisioned my Saturday morning differently than reading comments about Trump’s dick.

You came to the wrong place then.

657

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:08:06am

re: #655 makeitstop

I envisioned my Saturday morning differently than reading comments about Trump’s dick.

I’m sure Melania thinks that every Saturday….

658

Sionainn Jul 16, 2016 • 9:08:10am

re: #653 BeachDem

Wonder why both Trump and Pence wore blue ties? Are they trying to tell us something? (Coming up next hour on CNN)
/

I always get a kick out of the GOP color being red, particularly since they are so afraid of the Communists.

659

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 9:11:37am

It bothers me more than it should that the first 3 letters are right-aligned, C is center, and E is left-aligned pic.twitter.com/ok7ZJcF65y

— Dana Schwartz (@DanaSchwartzzz) July 16, 2016

660

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 9:11:38am

All these idiots and their selfies.

661

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 9:12:27am

Seriously, though - what does Pence bring to this ticket that moves the needle for anyone outside of people who are already going to vote for Trump?

Sure, the God-botherers are going to love it. But they weren’t gonna vote for Hillary anyway.

662

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 9:13:42am

re: #655 makeitstop

I envisioned my Saturday morning differently than reading comments about Trump’s dick.

I envisioned my country differently thinking there would be no way someone that is an unqualified dick would be where he is right now running for president and being taken seriously.

663

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 9:14:07am

re: #658 Sionainn

I always get a kick out of the GOP color being red, particularly since they are so afraid of the Communists.

The colors used to be the opposite, and I believe the switch was made for the benefit of the Democrats. Than was back in the 1980’s, though, so I’m not sure about what went into that decision.

664

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 9:15:06am

“Were you surprised nobody pointed out Ronald Reagan announced his candidacy in this hotel” — Brian Williams, demonstrating his uselessness

— Jamison Foser (@jamisonfoser) July 16, 2016

665

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 9:16:25am

This “Johnson Amendment” some crackpot told him about? It was LBJ making sure religion wasn’t used to discriminate against blacks.

— Jonathan Alter (@jonathanalter) July 16, 2016

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:18:04am

re: #665 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Well, shit, then - no wonder Trump wants to get rid of it!

667

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 9:18:05am

re: #659 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

She doesn’t know what she is talking about. The entire alignment is centered. Pence is smaller than Trump and they have extra spacing between all the letters which was a thing a few years ago. The letters just fell that way.

This is what happens when everyone can buy a computer and a program and is now an artist. In my opinion.

668

Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 16, 2016 • 9:18:14am

USA Today: The five words that could sink Trump

Paul Manafort just admitted that Trump is an emotional reality TV star, not a war-time leader.

“He emotionally reacted to it,” Paul Manafort told Chris Cuomo on CNN, explaining why Trump postponed a press conference to announce his vice presidential pick in the wake of the attack that killed dozens of people in Nice, France.

To be fair, there was more to Manafort’s answer than that. “It really bothered him to see that carnage and he felt the pain of the people there, and he said ‘it’s just not right to do something self- serving and political the morning after,’” he said of Trump.

And to be even more perfectly fair, Cuomo kept saying things like “I get that” and was more interested in why Trump was continuing to pretend he had not made a final pick when Indiana Gov. Mike Pence and various aides had already flown to New York for the announcement.

Manafort may have thought he was conveying — or perhaps revealing, given the tenor of the campaign so far — Trump’s great empathy and caring.

But there are many, many ways those five words may come to haunt Trump, starting with this: They crystallize his approach to pretty much everything — including campaign strategy, policy-making, the press, the Constitution, people who criticize him, political rivals and foreign leaders. They are Hillary Clinton’s “Daisy” ad. All she needs to do is run those five words as a continuous loop against video of nuclear weapons and mushroom clouds.

…

When Trump tweeted that he would postpone that press conference, I and many other political veterans had a flashback to fall 2008 and the Wall Street collapse. Sen. John McCain suspended his campaign, called for a White House meeting and said he and Sen. Barack Obama should cancel an upcoming debate in Oxford, Miss.

The moves were precipitous and did not go over well. Obama, in character as usual as the cool head, said it was “exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person will be the next president.” He also said that part of a president’s job is “to deal with more than one thing at once.”

669

freetoken Jul 16, 2016 • 9:18:53am

The “Johnson Amendment” thing is a bone thrown to the religious right.

670

sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 9:19:14am

re: #663 Dark_Falcon

The colors used to be the opposite, and I believe the switch was made for the benefit of the Democrats. Than was back in the 1980’s, though, so I’m not sure about what went into that decision.

Nancy. She loved red. Don’t you remember her red china?

671

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 9:19:29am

Man, I wish we had gone to Ohio this coming week instead of last month.

672

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 9:20:04am

re: #667 ObserverArt

She doesn’t know what she is talking about. The entire alignment is centered. Pence is smaller than Trump and they have extra spacing between all the letters which was a thing a few years ago. The letters just fell that way.

This is what happens when everyone can buy a computer and a program and is now an artist. In my opinion.

Agreed.
Done any other way, the spacing between the letters in PENCE would be jarring.

673

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 9:20:17am

re: #670 sagehen

Nancy. She loved red. Don’t you remember her red china?

No, I was only a child at the time.

674

FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 9:23:24am

Anyone who’s writing this up: It wasn’t unconventional or outsidery — it was the most half-assed big-time political event I’ve ever seen
— Glenn Thrush (@GlennThrush) July 16, 2016

675

PhillyPretzel Jul 16, 2016 • 9:23:37am

re: #670 sagehen

I remember the red rimmed Lenox china. :)

676

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 9:24:49am

re: #668 Eric The Fruit Bat

They are Hillary Clinton’s “Daisy” ad. All she needs to do is run those five words as a continuous loop against video of nuclear weapons and mushroom clouds.

That and women should be punished for abortions. Over and over and over and over.

677

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:26:06am

re: #667 ObserverArt

She doesn’t know what she is talking about. The entire alignment is centered. Pence is smaller than Trump and they have extra spacing between all the letters which was a thing a few years ago. The letters just fell that way.

This is what happens when everyone can buy a computer and a program and is now an artist. In my opinion.

I think your opinion is spot-on. But the letter alignment issue is why you put a line between them, OR make them the same font size - Yeah, like Trump was gonna let Pence have the same size font!

678

stpaulbear Jul 16, 2016 • 9:27:16am

I can guess the answer to this before I ask, but did Trump ever come back on stage again for a thumbs-up photo op with his new VP choice, or did he leave him stranded onstage to end this trainwreck by himself? What a shitshow.

679

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 9:28:43am

re: #678 stpaulbear

He did. But it was funny because Pence kept looking around for him very awkwardly. It took Trump about ten seconds to go back to the stage. Total joke.

680

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:29:23am

re: #677 Blind Frog Belly White

I think your opinion is spot-on. But the letter alignment issue is why you put a line between them, OR make them the same font size - Yeah, like Trump was gonna let Pence have the same size font!

Or, as the Obama team did for the 2008 Obama/Biden logo, make the VP candidates name in a less contrasty color:

681

BeachDem Jul 16, 2016 • 9:32:30am

Charles P. Pierce’s subtle description of Pence:

The chandelier has brighter bulbs, I’m just sayin’.

Heh.

682

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 9:32:54am

re: #678 stpaulbear

I can guess the answer to this before I ask, but did Trump ever come back on stage again for a thumbs-up photo op with his new VP choice, or did he leave him stranded onstage to end this trainwreck by himself? What a shitshow.

Thank you! #TrumpPence16 pic.twitter.com/RHprMCsGT6

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 16, 2016

683

stpaulbear Jul 16, 2016 • 9:33:15am

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Great White Snark Jul 16, 2016 • 9:33:50am

Category-Our own worst enemies. Why do we (um media “we”) dismiss these shootings so easily?

14 wounded in drive-by shooting outside party in Bakersfield: https://t.co/8OSzQOFZBQ

— CBS Los Angeles (@CBSLA) July 16, 2016

685

PhillyPretzel Jul 16, 2016 • 9:35:20am

re: #684 Great White Snark

It is all about the ratings. It is looking for the “Man Bites Dog” story.

686

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 9:38:02am

re: #685 PhillyPretzel

It is all about the ratings. It is looking for the “Man Bites Dog” story.

Also because no one died.

687

Great White Snark Jul 16, 2016 • 9:38:56am

re: #685 PhillyPretzel

The local trauma centers had to be just frantic. 14 wounded. And got away clear. WTH?

688

Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 9:39:30am

re: #682 Backwoods_Sleuth

What an AWFUL picture.

689

Great White Snark Jul 16, 2016 • 9:39:57am

re: #686 Dark_Falcon

Also because no one died.

And or because nobody yelled angry Arabic words.
/

2 critical, hoping they pull through.

690

jaunte Jul 16, 2016 • 9:41:35am

re: #677 Blind Frog Belly White

I think your opinion is spot-on. But the letter alignment issue is why you put a line between them, OR make them the same font size - Yeah, like Trump was gonna let Pence have the same size font!

691

Dark_Falcon Jul 16, 2016 • 9:41:55am

re: #687 Great White Snark

The local trauma centers had to be just frantic. 14 wounded. And got away clear. WTH?

It was a drive-by, RWC. The car was likely miles away by the time the police arrived on the scene, and unless someone who called 911 managed to provide a good description of the car the police didn’t know what they were looking for till officers arrived at the scene of the crime, if then.

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Frankie Five Angels Jul 16, 2016 • 9:42:39am

@aduanebrown @GovPenceIN Tell those 26,000 dead ISIS guys how much we apologize to our enemies.

— Billy Batts (@BillyBatts1970) July 16, 2016

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stpaulbear Jul 16, 2016 • 9:43:17am

I may end up posting this again later, but I went back a bit to find a posting about Mike Pence. The quote comes from Matt Yglesias but my link goes to Balloon Juice because it’s a great John Cole post. In Over His Tiny Head

There are very few members of congress with whom I’ve ever had the opportunity to discuss a substantive matter of public policy. But as it happens, one of them — the one with whom I’ve had the second-longest exchange — is Mike Pence (R-IN) who I’ve seen on television today repeatedly discussing the Republican Study Group’s “plan” for the financial crisis. And I can tell you this about Mike Pence: he has no idea what he’s talking about. The man is a fool, who deserves to be laughed at. He’s almost stupid enough to work in cable television.

edited to correct typo

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Sionainn Jul 16, 2016 • 9:43:53am

re: #663 Dark_Falcon

The colors used to be the opposite, and I believe the switch was made for the benefit of the Democrats. Than was back in the 1980’s, though, so I’m not sure about what went into that decision.

I had never really paid attention to the colors until the all the fear mongering in 2008. That’s when it hit me.

695

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 9:45:27am

This morning, @POTUS received an update on the situation in Turkey: pic.twitter.com/zqsHgfwPsZ

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) July 16, 2016

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:48:32am

re: #690 jaunte

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Too large. I can actually READ the ‘PENCE’.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 9:49:14am

This was a lifetime ago:

Say what you will about Sarah Palin, but McCain’s intro of her on 8/29/2008 was an event to remember. https://t.co/RWQIduYH69

— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) July 16, 2016

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:50:46am

re: #694 Sionainn

I had never really paid attention to the colors until the all the fear mongering in 2008. That’s when it hit me.

I don’t remember anyone paying attention to the colors used on the map until 2000, and then it was used to show that Bush won more of the AREA of the US. That was followed by the county map version to show just how dominating was Bush’s winning of empty acreage.

When was RedState founded?

699

Sionainn Jul 16, 2016 • 9:55:16am

re: #698 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t remember anyone paying attention to the colors used on the map until 2000, and then it was used to show that Bush won more of the AREA of the US. That was followed by the county map version to show just how dominating was Bush’s winning of empty acreage.

When was RedState founded?

You know, I think it was the maps that made me notice. I kept getting confused because for some reason I though the Democrats were red.

700

sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 9:57:07am

re: #699 Sionainn

You know, I think it was the maps that made me notice. I kept getting confused because for some reason I though the Democrats were red.

Fun fact:

when our military does war games training exercises, Team America is blue, Team Enemy is red.

701

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 9:59:53am

“Organic Cream-Top Milk” sounds so much better than “Lumpy Unmixed Milk That Leaves A Ring On The Jug”.

702

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 10:00:36am

re: #690 jaunte

Embedded Image

Hey…you cheated!

The spacing between the letters in Pence is not the same because you centered them under the Trump letters. If they were using the same letter spacing they would not have lined up centered. The same “problem” the tweeter was having before.

Close and I bet most people wouldn’t see the spacing between because the eye is probably seeing the centering alignment more.

703

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 10:01:05am

The @GOP team - @realDonaldTrump @mike_pence @Reince here they come @GOPconvention #RNCinCLE pic.twitter.com/y1M7yKMBux

— Sean Spicer (@seanspicer) July 16, 2016

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Joe Bacon Jul 16, 2016 • 10:02:15am

re: #334 SoundGuy 2016

Kudlow just wrote in National Review that Trump’s pick of Pence and declaring war on ISIS were ‘home runs.’ Seriously.

Trump continues to be a farce, a complete and total shitshow. I worry that team Hill will assume he’ll implode and lay back, give some $ or focus more on state races. They have to step on the gas and utterly crush him. The damage this guy will do is hard to fathom.

I see Kudlow is back snorting those white lines again!

705

stpaulbear Jul 16, 2016 • 10:02:29am

re: #703 Jenner7

Nice focus and lighting.

706

PhillyPretzel Jul 16, 2016 • 10:02:40am

re: #703 Jenner7

The uncouth one’s smile looks like a grimace.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 16, 2016 • 10:03:26am

re: #663 Dark_Falcon

The colors used to be the opposite, and I believe the switch was made for the benefit of the Democrats. Than was back in the 1980’s, though, so I’m not sure about what went into that decision.

It was a convention the news networks used to show the outcome of elections.

Just like left and right wing had to do with seating arrangements in the 19th Century French parliament

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 16, 2016 • 10:04:51am

re: #698 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t remember anyone paying attention to the colors used on the map until 2000, and then it was used to show that Bush won more of the AREA of the US. That was followed by the county map version to show just how dominating was Bush’s winning of empty acreage.

When was RedState founded?

Someone did a map showing the area adjusted to fit population density…

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makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 10:05:43am

re: #703 Jenner7

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Great, an out of focus shot with multiple forced smiles. Trump’s is particularly obvious.

I know they’re strapped for money and all, but couldn’t someone have sprung for a professional photographer?

710

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 10:05:59am

re: #703 Jenner7

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@seanspicer @GOP @realDonaldTrump @mike_pence @Reince @GOPconvention The 3 Stooges.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) July 16, 2016

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FormerDirtDart Jul 16, 2016 • 10:09:58am

OK, I’m getting off the computer for a bit.
Nobody gets to start an armed conflict while I nap.
I had enough of that crap yesterday, and if we have a repeat of that I’ll never be able to sleep again.

712

BeachDem Jul 16, 2016 • 10:10:02am

re: #708 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Someone did a map showing the area adjusted to fit population density…

According to The Washington Post, the terms were coined by journalist Tim Russert, during his televised coverage of the 2000 presidential election. That was not the first election during which the news media used colored maps to depict voter preferences in the various states, but it was the first time a standard color scheme took hold; the colors were often reversed or different colors used before the 2000 election.

713

ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 10:14:10am

re: #709 makeitstop

Great, an out of focus shot with multiple forced smiles. Trump’s is particularly obvious.

I know they’re strapped for money and all, but couldn’t someone have sprung for a professional photographer?

Isn’t it amazing that Mr. Moneypockets Trump is doing everything on the cheap?

It really makes me wonder how well his buildings are actually built. That one documentary done in the late 80s had the architect talking about the quality of the apartment units and how they were furnished to what you can buy at Lowes or Home Depot right off the shelves.

714

Jenner7 Jul 16, 2016 • 10:18:40am

Mike Pence backstage pic.twitter.com/uzMGZp2iUZ

— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) July 16, 2016

::snort::

715

b_sharp Jul 16, 2016 • 10:18:56am

re: #682 Backwoods_Sleuth

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His sons are evil looking fucks.

716

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 10:19:04am

Okay, enough Trump for one morning. The wife and I are off to a local park to take a long, quiet walk. Also, camera is going along.

Catch y’all later.

717

b_sharp Jul 16, 2016 • 10:22:30am

Going to go get passport pics taken & then groceries. Fighting through the inconsiderate asshole Costco crowds will be less stressful than being on the Internet.

718

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 10:23:19am

re: #708 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Someone did a map showing the area adjusted to fit population density…

The other one was to color the states not red or blue, but read and blue mixed based on the percentage of vote.

719

Joe Bacon Jul 16, 2016 • 10:23:38am

re: #576 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pence should listen to Frank Zappa’s warning!

frank zappa-elvis has just left the building

720

wrenchwench Jul 16, 2016 • 10:24:38am

re: #717 b_sharp

Going to go get passport pics taken & then groceries. Fighting through the inconsiderate asshole Costco crowds will be less stressful than being on the Internet.

The passport pics, tho!

/always worse than the drivers’ license

721

Stanley Sea Jul 16, 2016 • 10:27:12am

re: #682 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So Ivanka & Jared did skip Shabbat……

722

electrotek Jul 16, 2016 • 10:27:21am

Um yeah

@danja84 @LaineEleslaine Fear of right-wing extremism is not as much of a threat. That’s just baseless fear. Look at the stats.

— Trekpop Klootzak (@TrekpopKlootzak) July 16, 2016

723

makeitstop Jul 16, 2016 • 10:28:26am

Quick question before running out - will some enterprising journalist ever ask Trump about the logo debacle, or is it on the Big List of Things of which We Will Never Speak Again?

Okay, out.

724

Joe Bacon Jul 16, 2016 • 10:28:50am

re: #628 Frankie Five Angels

Chris Matthews just called it a barnburner.

FARTburner is more accurate!

725

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 10:29:59am

726

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 10:32:56am

re: #721 Stanley Sea

So Ivanka & Jared did skip Shabbat……

And Melania nowhere to be seen…

727

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 10:33:32am

#HillaryClinton campaign strategists after watching Pence Shitshow https://t.co/GNVJK8AkI4

— (((Sandy Mangina))) (@BigPapa1849) July 16, 2016

728

Stanley Sea Jul 16, 2016 • 10:34:13am

re: #726 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Melania nowhere to be seen…

Weird.

729

Joe Bacon Jul 16, 2016 • 10:34:25am

Hey, I just decoded the subliminal message in the new logo!

It’s PUMP CENTER

WHO SAID TRUMP ISN’T MOVING TO THE CENTER?

730

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 10:36:25am

That is Cute SoundGuy 2016.

Oh my God… pic.twitter.com/If507fxar5

— Kroony (@DeKroonCat) July 15, 2016

731

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 10:37:12am

Logo looks like it was made with Microsoft Paint. The Sheriff’s Star graphics program.

732

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 10:38:25am

re: #729 Joe Bacon

Hey, I just decoded the subliminal message in the new logo!

It’s PUMP CENTER

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I kinda like the subtle support for the UN, right there in the middle.

733

Joe Bacon Jul 16, 2016 • 10:40:42am

re: #732 Backwoods_Sleuth

But I noticed how the “N” was shifted to the right to placate Alex Jones!

734

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 10:42:17am

re: #730 Tigger2

I just tweeted that the kitteh was Hillary’s campaign strategists after the Pence shitshow.

735

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 10:45:02am

re: #734 SoundGuy 2016

I just tweeted that the kitteh was Hillary’s campaign strategists after the Pence shitshow.

Yeah I saw that, Cute find, I just posed the little video just in case people didn’t click the twitter link I know sometimes I pass them by without clicking on them.

736

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 10:46:33am

heh

Listen, the UK formed an entire new government in the time it’s taking Trump to get his running mate on stage.

— (((#2016MustGo))) (@abradacabla) July 16, 2016

737

wrenchwench Jul 16, 2016 • 10:47:32am

We can’t trust a reckless @realDonaldTrump & a governor in the gun lobby’s grip to fight gun violence responsibly. https://t.co/tL6jPP9zQT

— Gabrielle Giffords (@GabbyGiffords) July 16, 2016

738

Stanley Sea Jul 16, 2016 • 10:48:23am

So I’m reading reviews of the intro speech trump gave for Pence.

BAD & SAD eh?

739

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 10:48:54am

re: #738 Stanley Sea

So I’m reading reviews of the intro speech trump gave for Pence.

BAD & SAD eh?

it was gobsmacking

740

Stanley Sea Jul 16, 2016 • 10:51:51am

He cannot be president based on these chairs.

So Saddamish.

The first interview with Donald Trump and Mike Pence is underway. Watch it only on @60Minutes tomorrow night pic.twitter.com/5zdcXr0mrF

— Jeff Fager (@JeffFager) July 16, 2016

741

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 10:57:19am

re: #738 Stanley Sea

So I’m reading reviews of the intro speech trump gave for Pence.

BAD & SAD eh?

This announcement is going great. Everything is fine. pic.twitter.com/K8LoyzvBZ3

— Jason Sparks (@sparksjls) July 16, 2016

742

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 10:58:03am

trump: what’s wrong with the logo
aide: the Internet thinks it’s NSFW
trump: *squints at it closely*
aide: …
trump: make the T bigger

— Daniel Schultz (@pastordan) July 16, 2016

743

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 16, 2016 • 11:04:18am

How Fox News Is Lying About You Today

The war on cops: The big lie of the anti-cop left turns lethal

744

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 11:04:56am

New website, new logo. They don’t even have an actual picture of them together. They had to photoshop it. pic.twitter.com/JSMl3DYiEt

— Madeline Marshall (@Maddie_Marshall) July 16, 2016

Pence photo taken when he was on NBC’s @meetthepress in 2010 https://t.co/GguVsFID7w (photo owned by @NBCNews) https://t.co/XlGQHJwpki

— Madeline Marshall (@Maddie_Marshall) July 16, 2016

745

jaunte Jul 16, 2016 • 11:08:28am

LOL! - https://t.co/T7KaXJJfdj

LOL! https://t.co/IxFIWn2PtL

LOL! - https://t.co/FEtZqJ7Cxl

LOL! - https://t.co/bO9hh8y04n

— Joey (@60th_Street) July 16, 2016

Masters of organization

746

Feline Fearless Leader Jul 16, 2016 • 11:09:11am

re: #643 Blind Frog Belly White

What you need is hypertension! They’ll give you a diuretic, and that’ll help a lot!
///

Seriously, at 50, I started having the usual issues, but once the doc started me on HCTZ, that went away.

Sadly, Evolution is done with guys our age, and no longer cares if we can pee.

Warranty on the human body runs out at 40. Stuff really starts breaking down at 50 it seems. (Another person on HCTZ for hypertension. Plus a few other fun drugs.)

747

wrenchwench Jul 16, 2016 • 11:11:01am

Gonorrhea may soon become resistant to all antibiotics, and essentially untreatable, new report says. https://t.co/e0P1SzS6Wx

— STAT (@statnews) July 16, 2016

Slow clap https://t.co/bF5nve5lQ9

— Ed Yong (@edyong209) July 16, 2016

748

blueraven Jul 16, 2016 • 11:11:33am

What in the HELL is this?

Spotted at the #RNCinCLE. I’m told it’s being replaced for obvious reasons. pic.twitter.com/SVayl1zGCd

— Byron Tau (@ByronTau) July 16, 2016

749

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 11:12:23am

It was a one night stand for the T in the P logo.https://t.co/qNMSqeDV2W

— andrew kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) July 16, 2016

750

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 16, 2016 • 11:12:32am

NYT: Trump’s Family Members Talked Him Into~~Mike Pence~~ Pants

Sorry but that’s how I keep reading it!

751

sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 11:15:57am

re: #740 Stanley Sea

He cannot be president based on these chairs.

So Saddamish.

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Can you imagine if Obama gave an interview seated on a golden throne?

752

Feline Fearless Leader Jul 16, 2016 • 11:18:15am

TP
REused
UNtil
MCCain
PEes

Sorry, it just jumped out at me.

753

Thanos Jul 16, 2016 • 11:20:50am

It’s hilarious watching media companies re-branding and scrambling to gain younger audiences as they realize that the baby boomers they’ve cultivated all these years just buy pills and depends now.

754

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 16, 2016 • 11:26:51am

re: #753 Thanos

It’s hilarious watching media companies re-branding and scrambling to gain younger audiences as they realize that the baby boomers they’ve cultivated all these years just buy pills and depends now.

Makes you feel real old when the women you remember as hot young things ar advertising Depends.

755

No Depression Jul 16, 2016 • 11:27:49am

re: #753 Thanos

It’s hilarious watching media companies re-branding and scrambling to gain younger audiences as they realize that the baby boomers they’ve cultivated all these years just buy pills and depends now.

Hey, that’s not true. They don’t just buy pills and depends. They buy gold, catheters and reverse mortgages too!

756

Stanley Sea Jul 16, 2016 • 11:29:02am

re: #755 No Depression

Hey, that’s not true. They don’t just buy pills and depends. They buy gold, catheters and reverse mortgages too!

Stair riders & sun shades

757

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 11:29:08am

Dem calls for investigation into ex-rep’s tweet threatening Obama https://t.co/NMwd9BUHd5 pic.twitter.com/GOyaBQRJCP

— The Hill (@thehill) July 16, 2016

758

unproven innocence Jul 16, 2016 • 11:33:45am

re: #628 Frankie Five Angels

Chris Matthews just called it a barnburner.

It’s gonna be a long hot summer.

759

wrenchwench Jul 16, 2016 • 11:40:59am

Logged in: Charles
Logged out: Charles

Logged in: Charles

Logged out: Charles

Logged in: Charles

Logged out: Charles

Logged in: Charles

Logged out: Charles

Somebody grab him next time.

760

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 16, 2016 • 11:42:00am

Looks like Turkey is going to keep Incirlik closed. They want us to hand over Gulen.

761

Anymouse Jul 16, 2016 • 11:43:39am

re: #413 Dark_Falcon

If the alternative is Turkey ceases co-operating with us against Daesh and proceeds to kick our A-10s out of Incirlik Air Base? More people will die as the war drags on. I won’t see hundreds or thousands die to save one man who as far as I know isn’t a US citizen (if he were a citizen, that would be different).

Though Incirlik is currently on lockdown, though Erdogan hasn’t accused the US of anything. But given the confused situation in the air last night, this doesn’t surprise me.

Nope. Constitutional rights apply to all people on our soil, not just Americans.

We do not turn over people to foreign courts just because one man (Erdogan in this case) says we have to.

If we go down that road, we have abandoned the rule of our Constitution and body of law.

In the meantime, for some humorous diversion,

msn.com

While filming a movie, a Porsche knocks a Smart car into a canal in Amsterdam.

Remind me not to drive to The Netherlands. On the other hand, a moose could do the same to us here in Canada.

762

CuriousLurker Jul 16, 2016 • 11:50:40am

re: #759 wrenchwench

Somebody grab him next time.

I’m picturing him stuck in one of those revolving door.

763

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 11:54:16am

re: #756 Stanley Sea

Stair riders & sun shades

chocolate and Scotch for this older…

764

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 11:56:13am

GRAB THE PONYTAIL THIS TIME!!!!

765

Decatur Deb Jul 16, 2016 • 11:57:58am

re: #763 Backwoods_Sleuth

chocolate and Scotch for this older…

Motorcycle carb.

766

wrenchwench Jul 16, 2016 • 11:58:43am

re: #764 Backwoods_Sleuth

GRAB THE PONYTAIL THIS TIME!!!!

OW! Not the ponytail…

767

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 11:59:10am

re: #766 wrenchwench

OW! Not the ponytail…

Desperate times, desperate measures…

768

Decatur Deb Jul 16, 2016 • 12:01:42pm

re: #764 Backwoods_Sleuth

GRAB THE PONYTAIL THIS TIME!!!!

He’s cycling faster—going to come apart under the stresses.

769

BeachDem Jul 16, 2016 • 12:02:28pm

Talk about low expectations! The head of the Log Cabin Republicans just said (paraphrased) they’re much happier to have him as VP because he won’t be able to do as much damage to LGBT as he would if he remained governor.

770

MsJ Jul 16, 2016 • 12:03:34pm

Hey @Nero Didn’t I see Perez Hilton in those exact same poses? Thought so.

— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) July 16, 2016

771

Tigger2 Jul 16, 2016 • 12:04:52pm

re: #769 BeachDem

Talk about low expectations! The head of the Log Cabin Republicans just said (paraphrased) they’re much happier to have him as VP because he won’t be able to do as much damage to LGBT as he would if he remained governor.

They must really really love their money to stay in the GOP.

772

Decatur Deb Jul 16, 2016 • 12:05:46pm

re: #771 Tigger2

They must really really love their money to stay in the GOP.

There are a few Pittsburghers who root for Dallas.

773

Romantic Heretic Jul 16, 2016 • 12:05:49pm

re: #701 Blind Frog Belly White

“Organic Cream-Top Milk” sounds so much better than “Lumpy Unmixed Milk That Leaves A Ring On The Jug”.

It’s called ‘Almond Milk’ because no one can say ‘Nut Juice’ with a straight face.

774

HappyWarrior Jul 16, 2016 • 12:07:10pm

re: #769 BeachDem

Talk about low expectations! The head of the Log Cabin Republicans just said (paraphrased) they’re much happier to have him as VP because he won’t be able to do as much damage to LGBT as he would if he remained governor.

Taht whole second in line to the President and tie break in the Senate means nothing. Man Log Cabins are some stupid morons.

775

Targetpractice Jul 16, 2016 • 12:09:49pm

re: #769 BeachDem

Talk about low expectations! The head of the Log Cabin Republicans just said (paraphrased) they’re much happier to have him as VP because he won’t be able to do as much damage to LGBT as he would if he remained governor.

Log Cabin Republicans: “Self-Respect Is So Passe.”

776

CuriousLurker Jul 16, 2016 • 12:15:01pm

re: #768 Decatur Deb

He’s cycling faster—going to come apart under the stresses.

He’s making me dizzy. Gonna go play with my Roku now…

^{And whoever’s thinking about saying, “Oh, so that’s what they call it these days…” can SHUT UP. //}

777

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 12:16:19pm

Trump Had To Grab Tourists Off The Street To Fill The Room For VP Announcement via @politicususa https://t.co/6x8wnW9nvQ #p2 #p2b #ctl

— PoliticusUSA (@politicususa) July 16, 2016

The crowd for Donald Trump’s VP announcement was made up of Trump family, friends, and tourists who were pulled off of the street and allowed to come in and watch.

BRIAN WILLIAMS (HOST): Katy, was there anything different about today, having covered countless [Donald] Trump events on the road like it?

KATY TUR: Certainly different. This was a room not filled with Donald Trump supporters from rallies, but rather a number of GOP — New York GOPers, some friends and family, and then just tourists who came in literally from off the street, Brian. They heard about it and they asked if they could get in. Secret Service swept them and they sat down, a little bit gobsmacked that they were able to get in so easily and that this wasn’t an event that had more invitees here. That being said, it was typical in the way that Donald Trump spent a good portion of the time talking about, frankly, himself, relitigating the primaries, talking about all the deals he’s made. Also, perpetuating this idea that he was against the Iraq war when he was not. He spent 29 minutes before he got to Governor Mike Pence [(R-IN)]. And he said part of the reason why he chose him — and he admitted this — was that he needed party unity, that he’s an outsider and that he needed somebody who would smooth over relations in Washington.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

778

Targetpractice Jul 16, 2016 • 12:17:41pm

re: #777 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

Those tourists can now go home and say they got a chance to see the freak show.

779

Dave In Austin Jul 16, 2016 • 12:17:42pm

…..

780

Decatur Deb Jul 16, 2016 • 12:18:24pm

re: #778 Targetpractice

Those tourists can now go home and say they got a chance to see the freak show.

That’s how I got roped into a taping of the Phyllis Diller Show.

781

ipsos Jul 16, 2016 • 12:18:38pm

One of the bits that got lost in the Trump word salad was how quickly and insubstantially he glossed over Turkey.

I didn’t even try to transcribe it verbatim, but it pretty much amounted to two sentences about “those are good people there, good people, and we hope everything works out OK for them.”

I am getting increasingly terrified about the possibility that THIS intellect will be guiding US foreign policy for four years - and Pence doesn’t add any brainpower to the ticket in that arena, either.

782

Feline Fearless Leader Jul 16, 2016 • 12:18:53pm

re: #778 Targetpractice

Those tourists can now go home and say they got a chance to see the freak show.

And I’m sure it was a “press conference” solely in Trump terms; e.g. media there to listen to him and Pence speak. So more of a lecture than a conference.

783

Dave In Austin Jul 16, 2016 • 12:20:54pm

Try it again…..

784

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 16, 2016 • 12:21:25pm

by the same token that dead ferret makes even ted cruz look like a gentleman, mike pence the imitation puritain is sure to make the yakking yam look even more vulgar

785

Stanley Sea Jul 16, 2016 • 12:23:25pm

BAM

Trump’s first big governing decision was picking a VP … it didn’t go well.https://t.co/du64Le4U0I

— The Briefing (@TheBriefing2016) July 16, 2016

786

Targetpractice Jul 16, 2016 • 12:26:25pm

re: #785 Stanley Sea

BAM

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“The nuclear strike on Russia has commenced, Mr. President.”

“No, I changed my mind! CALL THE MISSILES BACK!!”

787

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 16, 2016 • 12:26:42pm

re: #777 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

The fact that Trump had to pad the room with tourists speaks volumes about the real popularity of Trump’s campaign, and his struggles within the Republican Party.

Donald Trump treated the announcement of his VP like the taping of a late night talk show.

Republicans should have been able to stage a major event to launch the 2016 ticket, but Donald Trump refuses to act like a real presidential candidate.

The news conference that should have been packed to the walls with enthusiastic GOP voters was reduced to a spectacle for tourists to gawk at.

Democrats are running a campaign for president, while Donald Trump has turned the GOP into a cheesy reality show with no chance of being renewed in November.

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Decatur Deb Jul 16, 2016 • 12:29:13pm

re: #787 Backwoods_Sleuth

more:

Yet he has 1 chance in 3 of being the next president.

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ObserverArt Jul 16, 2016 • 12:44:06pm

re: #781 ipsos

One of the bits that got lost in the Trump word salad was how quickly and insubstantially he glossed over Turkey.

I didn’t even try to transcribe it verbatim, but it pretty much amounted to two sentences about “those are good people there, good people, and we hope everything works out OK for them.”

I am getting increasingly terrified about the possibility that THIS intellect will be guiding US foreign policy for four years - and Pence doesn’t add any brainpower to the ticket in that arena, either.

But he wants to Make America Great Again.

So why would he care about Turkey…they all need to fight their own battles. Can’t worry about people you don’t want in your country when you are worried about kicking out those that may already be here.

We are not gonna make The World Great Again under Trump. He’d most likely make it all worse which will be bad for America, but those are just little details.

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sagehen Jul 16, 2016 • 1:08:54pm

re: #775 Targetpractice

Log Cabin Republicans: “Self-Respect Is So Passe.”

Or they’re full-bore States’ Rightsers, and live in States who’ll protect LGBT rights even when (especially when) the federal government doesn’t.

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EPR-radar Jul 16, 2016 • 2:18:22pm

re: #769 BeachDem

Talk about low expectations! The head of the Log Cabin Republicans just said (paraphrased) they’re much happier to have him as VP because he won’t be able to do as much damage to LGBT as he would if he remained governor.

A most impressive public display of total soulless hackitude. Business as usual for the Log Cabin fools.

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