Shootings in Baton Rouge: Three Police Officers Killed, Trump Immediately Exploits It

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I’m afraid we have more bad news from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where three police officers have been killed and several others wounded in a shooting. There appear to have been three suspects involved, and one has been killed in a shootout with police.

CBS News posted a video in which you can’t see much, but you can hear the gunfire.

There isn’t much information out there about the suspects yet, but Donald Trump is already trying to capitalize on this attack for political gain, as always.

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UPDATE at 7/17/16 11:55:03 am by Charles Johnson
UPDATE at 7/17/16 12:35:08 pm by Charles Johnson
UPDATE at 7/17/16 1:56:01 pm by Charles Johnson
UPDATE at 7/17/16 2:18:19 pm by Charles Johnson

Nothing is confirmed yet, but please note that the suspect being black does NOT rule out sovereign citizen involvement.

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1
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:43:22am

Obviously, Donald. We need more guns. We still don’t have enough to make us polite.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:45:22am

Trump is correct that a lack of leadership in the GOP is preventing us from implementing sensible gun control laws.

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:49:14am

Lyin’ liars.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:50:27am
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bratwurst  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:51:18am

Wow, his handlers have had him on a TIGHT leash during recent breaking news situations…wonder if he is “out of pocket” or this is the campaign’s idea of restraint?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:53:50am

If the shootings weren’t race-related, that probably means the suspects are white.

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retired cynic  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:54:57am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

If the shootings weren’t race-related, that probably means the suspects are white.

Or whoever it is was shooting at someone of the same ‘race’ and police got caught in the middle?

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:56:49am
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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:56:58am

LAW AND ORDER!

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:57:49am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 11:59:32am

re: #7 retired cynic

Or whoever it is was shooting at someone of the same ‘race’ and police got caught in the middle?

No, it does look like the police were the targets - reports say it was an “ambush.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:01:58pm

This is what America looks like when people have complete and utter unfettered access to as much firepower as they wish. When will all these good guys with guns start stepping up?

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thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:02:17pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

No, it does look like the police were the targets - reports say it was an “ambush.”

Not to mention, unless the police presence is really heavy, it’d be hard for “getting caught in the crossfire” to result in three dead and three wounded officers. You’d expect more civilian casualties, or maybe one officer wounded or killed.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:02:53pm

re: #12 Dr. Matt

This is what a America looks like when people have complete and utter unfettered access to as much firepower they wish. When will all these good guys with guns start stepping up?

They’re too afraid of getting shot by the bad guys with guns, or confused for a bad guy with a gun and getting shot by a good guy with a gun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:04:42pm
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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:05:27pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:06:12pm

DT knows that he can exploit a situation like this, if it turns out the shooters were white and it was not a race-related incident, he will just move on and none of his supporters will care or even notice…

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:06:59pm

re: #1 GlutenFreeJesus

Correct. I thought more guns = more luv

This theory brought to you by our modern NRA

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:07:30pm

re: #16 Jenner7

In journalism it is referred to as “slant.” The uncouth one is very slanted.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:07:32pm

Eyewitness guy on CNN says he came on situation of person on ground & guy all in black & a mask with assault rifle. Then the cops came.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:09:01pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Perhaps easier to read:

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:09:47pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

It is a bit easier to read. Thanks.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:12:49pm
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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:12:54pm
Supporters of presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump will be holding an “America First Unity Rally” on July 18. The event, which will be hosted by Citizens for Trump and longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone, is being billed as “a massive victory rally & parade celebration of Mr. Trump’s nomination.”

The “America First Unity Rally”, or when abbreviated, “The America FU Rally”. Brilliant job, idiots.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:13:48pm

Cleveland Police Officer on Baton Rouge Shooting: Obama ‘Has Blood On His Hands’

Sunday on Fox News Channel’s breaking news coverage of the shootings in Baton Rouge, LA that has killed 3 officers and injured 3 more, Cleveland police officer and Police Patrolmen’s Association President Steve Loomis said President Barack Obama had “blood on his hands.”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:13:57pm

In case he deletes his ugly tweet:

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:13:59pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs Your ridiculous comments about Spence’s dinner is why NORMAL PEOPLE HATE YOU OBNOXIOUS NEW YORKER’S.
— Donald Biddle (@DonaldBiddle1) July 17, 2016

I’m hope this is a parody account.

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:14:35pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

No, it does look like the police were the targets - reports say it was an “ambush.”

Very mixed bag there. Been arguing that one elsewhere. CL mentioned one report, the gunfight started first and then the police rolled up on it. I’m not saying that’s it, just that it’s still that confusing early time before we know much beyond the location and numbers shot of killed. Just because of Dallas, waiting to see how many were really involved.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:14:43pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

The internet is forever.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:14:47pm

Well Hell. And already the speculation begins…The Husband, who has not cut the wingnuts out of his Facebook feed, is reading all about how it’s BLM thugs and Obama’s fault. Within minutes of it hitting the news. I told him to stop reading this crap out loud to me, I do not want to hear any more of it.

These Fucking People. Sigh.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:15:46pm

Instagram

Absolutely beautiful #cats #9gag @gagmobile

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:16:15pm

re: #30 A Mom Anon

Well Hell. And already the speculation begins…The Husband, who has not cut the wingnuts out of his Facebook feed, is reading all about how it’s BLM thugs and Obama’s fault. Within minutes of it hitting the news. I told him to stop reading this crap out loud to me, I do not want to hear any more of it.

These Fucking People. Sigh.

What’s so wrong with wait and see? Ask Darren Wilson. This ratings and clickbait rush has become indirectly deadly in and of itself. Yellow journalism at it;s worst. My TV is off.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:16:44pm

re: #31 Dr. Matt

So beautiful and thanks for the pretty picture.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:17:24pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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Leave “Spence” alone!!11!!!

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blueraven  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:17:35pm

Shep Smith just now on Fox interviewing Bobby Jindal. Jindal kept repeating “All Lives Matter”.

*Shep: Why do you keep saying that Governor? You know how divisive it is.
Jindal: blah blah blah

Shep: Bye now

*Not a true transcript but the gist of it.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:17:42pm

re: #29 PhillyPretzel

The internet is forever.

Until Obama orders martial law, appoints himself King, and then destroys (literally and figuratively) the country and the internet. It can happen any day now.

P.S. I’m selling seeds and gold if anyone is interested.

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Lidane  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:17:49pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:19:20pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

My thoughts when I heard about this.

First: Was it a case of too many armed people who couldn’t tell sheep from goats?

Second: Gang related?

Third: Domestic violence?

Note: Two and three could easily lead to number one.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:20:35pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

No, it does look like the police were the targets - reports say it was an “ambush.”

So, fourth thought: sovcits or some other form of ‘patriot’.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:21:06pm
#BatonRouge #BatonRougeShooting #NRA #2A
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blueraven  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:21:07pm

re: #37 Lidane

Kasich already responded: The answer is no.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:21:45pm
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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:22:09pm

re: #41 blueraven

Kasich already responded: The answer is no.

Rule 1 of being a Republican: Never, ever admit you were wrong.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:23:01pm

re: #25 Shiplord Kirel

Pardoxically, Loomis has also asked Governor Kasich to suspend open carry during the convention:
Cleveland Police Ask For Emergency Suspension Of Open Carry Laws During Republican Convention

Kasich says no:

Governor Kasich, through a spokesperson, rejected the request from the Cleveland police. “Ohio Governors do not have the power to arbitrarily suspend federal and state constitutional rights or state law as suggested,” his spokesperson said.

I’ll bet he can find a way when a couple of hundred people are dead and he has to send in the National Guard.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:23:14pm

re: #41 blueraven

Kasich already responded: The answer is no.

The NRA would be so pissed if he agreed.

Anyway that really doesn’t make any sense. The idiots who govern Ohio though this was a really really good idea, so let’s see just how good an idea it is.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:24:01pm

Another instant block trigger: shitlord.

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A Cranky One  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:26:04pm

All lives matter!! So let’s have everybody walk around with deadly weapons designed to kill people!

Sigh.

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:26:06pm

re: #41 blueraven

Kasich already responded: The answer is no.

My bet is no he won’t even though he could. Even if not upheld, the courts can only admonish after the fact. Would not be the first controversy over a public safety first decision.

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blueraven  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:28:20pm

re: #43 Dr. Matt

Rule 1 of being a Republican: Never, ever admit you were wrong.

Says he doesn’t have the power. Sadly, that may be true.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:29:43pm

re: #39 Romantic Heretic

So, fourth thought: sovcits or some other form of ‘patriot’.

It’s happened before in Louisiana:
Developing: Anti-Government Terrorists Murder Two Louisiana Sheriffs (8-17-2012)

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blueraven  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:30:24pm

re: #48 Great White Snark

My bet is no he won’t even though he could. Even if not upheld, the courts can only admonish after the fact. Would not be the first controversy over a public safety first decision.

Yeah, I was thinking the same. He could probably do it, but I bet NRA and others would go for an emergency injuction, or whatever you call it. They would probably get it too.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:31:27pm

Ugh, Facetubes… My reactionary friends are already re-posting things from cop accounts about this somehow being Obama’s fault, BLM are TERRARISTS, the community should back us up, et cetera…

Then they say “nothing to do with race” i.e. it’s probably white dudes. So, now one reactionary friend suddenly changes tone to the weather outside and how beautiful it is to live in Colorado.

Hmm… Guess that outrage dried up quick

Edit: It’s commentary on how fucked-up we are as a culture that there’s a twelve-hour rule where nobody knows if a mass shooter was a robber, a nutcase, a terrorist, or just some guy walking around with a rifle. Best fucking country in the world, kids! SMH.

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Lidane  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:32:32pm
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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:32:33pm
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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:33:13pm

re: #53 Lidane

How appropriate it’s Cleveland. lol

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:33:17pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

It’s happened before in Louisiana:
Developing: Anti-Government Terrorists Murder Two Louisiana Sheriffs (8-17-2012)

That was Obama’s fault, too, IIRC.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:33:27pm

LOL!

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:33:53pm

re: #54 Jenner7

If that’s true this story will be buried faster than the news of the latest Trump financial scandal.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:34:55pm

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel

Pardoxically, Loomis has also asked Governor Kasich to suspend open carry during the convention:
Cleveland Police Ask For Emergency Suspension Of Open Carry Laws During Republican Convention

Kasich says no:

Kasich says no:

Governor Kasich, through a spokesperson, rejected the request from the Cleveland police. “Ohio Governors do not have the power to arbitrarily suspend federal and state constitutional rights or state law as suggested,” his spokesperson said.

I’ll bet he can find a way when a couple of hundred people are dead and he has to send in the National Guard.

I said it earlier in the last thread. No one controls guns in this country other than the NRA. The people we vote for, the people we put in place to protect us…they have no control.

What good is a Governor if he can’t protect people asking for protection? And, it is the police asking for protection.

Good guys with guns don’t want other guys having guns for one freaking week.

Sorry: “No!”

This whole gun thing is gonna blow up soon. It is getting so out of hand and so many pushing and pulling on the politics of it all.

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:35:08pm

re: #51 blueraven

Yeah, I was thinking the same. He could probably do it, but I bet NRA and others would go for an emergency injuction, or whatever you call it. They would probably get it too.

Ah maybe so. But I’d guess a judge might very well put safety first and throw it back to the legislature. Or up to appeal. But would need some familiarity with that law and Ohio precedent. Who heads up the public safety cmte in the legis.?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:35:17pm

coming up at 3 pm central time.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:35:25pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

LOL!

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This is another one of H A Goodman’s accounts?

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:36:19pm

So you’re a New Yorker too? You’re so well traveled, and at the same time live rent free inside the heads of nutbars the world over.

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Tigger2  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:38:09pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:39:37pm

re: #53 Lidane

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From that article:

“This is not the party of Abraham Lincoln anymore. It is the party of Donald Trump. It has traded statesmanship for xenophobia,” he said alluding to Trump’s ban on Muslims. “It has traded free markets for protectionism. It has traded the higher principles of our better angels for the belief in party identity politics. That is why they are getting zero percent of the black vote in Pennsylvania. That is why you’re going to continue to see this kind of race-baiting approach to politics. I think it’s completely true that this is the end of the party of Lincoln.”

Historical ignorance on steroids. The Party of Lincoln was for high tariffs to protect Northern industry from British competition. It was the Democrats—mainly the Southern Democrats, who were essentially a separate party—who supported free trade, so they could buy British manufactured goods cheap.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:40:57pm

re: #65 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

In the present you read about the past so you do not make those mistakes again in the future.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:41:58pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

LOL!

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Help! Charles is being attacked by a Chatty Cathy doll!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:42:49pm

re: #67 Joe Bacon

Help! Charles is being attacked by a Chatty Cathy doll!

More like Betsy Wetsy.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:43:47pm

re: #68 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

rofl.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:44:56pm

Armed rape suspect holding hostages in Baltimore Burger King

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:45:05pm
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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:45:11pm

Man, is anyone else nostalgic for the days when people only shot at cops because they didn’t want to get arrested?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:45:51pm

OH LOOK A IDIOT==>

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:45:57pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:48:10pm

re: #72 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

Those are beautiful pictures. Thanks.

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Tigger2  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:48:14pm
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jaunte  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:48:25pm
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Lidane  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:48:44pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:49:14pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:50:04pm

Prediction: When Trump publishes his tell-all account, “The Art of The Steal; How Crooked Hillary Stole The Election,” I bet real money he’ll insist that he really wanted Ben Carson as his veep but Crooked Hillary infiltrated his family and his campaign staff and brainwashed him into going with Pence.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:50:14pm

re: #77 jaunte

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Now all of a sudden, Obama will be evil for criticizing the killers.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:51:23pm
Heller warned us!
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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:51:28pm

re: #76 Tigger2

So it’s just a misunderstood good guy with a gun who cracked under the stress of living in tyranny under the Obama regime.

At least that will be the Fox “News” spin, if true.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:52:18pm

Sovereign Citizen. I don’t even want to know what that is about.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:53:12pm

re: #78 Lidane

He’s got to be getting sick of this shit.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:53:32pm

re: #84 Frankie Five Angels

Sovereign Citizen. I don’t even want to know what that is about.

They don’t like US flags with gold fringe on them.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:54:11pm

re: #84 Frankie Five Angels

Sovereign Citizen. I don’t even want to know what that is about.

Sovereign Citizen: White people have the god-given right to ignore laws and kill police.

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:54:47pm

re: #84 Frankie Five Angels

Sovereign Citizen. I don’t even want to know what that is about.

“You’re Not The Boss Of Me!”

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:55:24pm

re: #87 Belafon

Sovereign Citizen: White people have the god-given right to ignore laws and kill police.

I can just imagine the Bundy Bunch cheering this in their Oregon jail cells…

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:55:35pm
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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:55:50pm

If indeed these are right-wing Sovereign Citizens, today’s events will be completely ignored at the RNC hatefest.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:57:22pm

Allan Brauer is a good Follow on Twitter. Last night he suggested we try to trend #LesbianShitass during Baio’s RNC speech.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:57:59pm

re: #91 Dr. Matt

If indeed these are right-wing Sovereign Citizens, today’s events will be completely ignored at the RNC hatefest.

Trump will delete his Tweet.

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bratwurst  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:58:58pm
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Tigger2  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:59:10pm

re: #93 Skip Intro

Trump will delete his Tweet.

I’m sure it has been screen captured by a lot of people.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:59:15pm

re: #93 Skip Intro

He does but he and his staff do not understand that someone else has already copied it.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:59:18pm

re: #90 Frankie Five Angels

Take the noun “****”, make it a verb, and then add “ness” to the end to make it a noun.

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KGxvi  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:59:30pm

re: #65 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From that article:

Historical ignorance on steroids. The Party of Lincoln was for high tariffs to protect Northern industry from British competition. It was the Democrats—mainly the Southern Democrats, who were essentially a separate party—who supported free trade, so they could buy British manufactured goods cheap.

The Republican Party in 2016 is as much the “Party of Lincoln” as the Democratic Party is the “Party of Andrew Jackson”

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plansbandc  Jul 17, 2016 • 12:59:42pm

re: #90 Frankie Five Angels

She seems nice.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:00:24pm

re: #90 Frankie Five Angels

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“Hillary is a SEE YOU EN TEE LOL!!”
“Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? What does your wife thi-…”
*reads Twitter*
“Never mind.”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:01:22pm

re: #94 bratwurst

Oh god. That stupid woman… That’s like asking to be trolled with horrible, horrible things.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:01:41pm

re: #94 bratwurst

Yes. There is one of those thingamajigs it is this :(

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:01:42pm

re: #94 bratwurst

She could design her own emoji, but that might cut into her daily ragefest.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:02:46pm

OT, but a pal o’ mine just sent me this link to a track from a 1968 lp by a trio I’d never heard of called The City, the members of which were Carole King on piano and vocals, her future hubby Charles Larkey on bass, and the legendary Danny “Kootch” Kortchmar on guitar. I hope you like it as much as I do. Sure beats reading the tweets of RW arseholes.

The City (Carole King): Victim of circumstance

Btw, the album’s called “Now That Everything’s Been Said.”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:02:47pm

@KurtSchlichter insists this was a shooting by Black Lives Matter, and anyone who says differently is lying.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:02:50pm

re: #84 Frankie Five Angels

Sovcits (sovereign citizens) are folks who think they’re above the law and that the federal government isn’t legitimate. They are in and among the Bundy ranch militia gun nuts and there’s crossover with various other extremists.

Sovcits also regularly harass government officials at all levels of government, engage in lawfare, refuse to pay taxes (regularly file bs lawsuits over taxes that are routinely thrown out for nonsensical claims), and stockpile guns. Lots of guns.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:03:09pm

re: #103 jaunte

Yes. That would take too much time from her rage.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:03:15pm

re: #103 jaunte

How come no one ever invites Michelle to come speak any more? She’d be a natural at the big Milo/Pam hatefest this week.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:04:10pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

In the present you read about the past so you do not make those mistakes again in the future.

We used to do that.

In the past.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:04:14pm

How would one construct a dead cop emoji?

Nevermind, don’t want to know.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:04:42pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

@KurtSchlichter insists this was a shooting by Black Lives Matter, and anyone who says differently is lying.

Massive cover up involving Obama-Clinton-Soros.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:06:09pm
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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:06:54pm

re: #112 Frankie Five Angels

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I guess there’s no point in pointing out that there are police emojis?

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:09:03pm

re: #84 Frankie Five Angels

Think Bundy Klowns

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Tigger2  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:09:06pm

This doesn’t sound like an ambush to me, it sounds more like the police rolled up on a crazy asshole.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:09:09pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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Not this normal person.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:11:04pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

We used to do that.

In the past.

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

—George Santayana

“The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history.”

—Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel

“History is Bunk.”

—Henry Ford

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:12:04pm

re: #113 Timothy Watson

I guess there’s no point in pointing out that there are police emojis?

Shhhh. You’re getting in the way of a good nutjob rant. Facts not needed.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:12:53pm

re: #80 De Kolta Chair

Manafort already said that picking a person of color or a woman would be seen as pandering so no surprise that a White male was the VP choice.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:12:58pm

Ugh.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:13:45pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

If the suspect turns out to be black, he won’t be singing that tune.

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:13:47pm

Well, sorry Sheriff, but what’s in someone’s heart doesn’t put bullets into people.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:14:20pm

If the suspect was black, we’d already have a name and photos of him.

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:14:27pm

Sherriff says this isn’t about gun control but its about “whats in mens hearts.”

And who can say what’s in men’s hearts?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:14:51pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

That confirms it. Shooter is a white guy.

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bratwurst  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:15:55pm

Oh please…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:16:00pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:16:11pm

re: #108 Skip Intro

How come no one ever invites Michelle to come speak any more? She’d be a natural at the big Milo/Pam hatefest this week.

Only Caucasians allowed.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:16:33pm

re: #125 Pawn of the Oppressor

That confirms it. Shooter is a white guy.

Ahhh. We are seeing the ol’ white boy soft shoe.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:17:06pm

re: #115 Tigger2

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This doesn’t sound like an ambush to me, it sounds more like the police rolled up on a crazy asshole.

That would be a lot of cops in a random spot.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:17:22pm

re: #124 jaunte

Sherriff says this isn’t about gun control but its about “whats in mens hearts.”

And who can say what’s in men’s hearts?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Shadow?

Youtube Video

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:17:52pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

Yup. Black people aren’t men and don’t have hearts, as we all know, therefore they would never be talked about in that way.

Up next: We can’t jump to any conclusions about his motivations!*

*which is true, right up until we find his Facebook page and hear from his ex-wife in about four hours.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:19:19pm

“Now is not the time to talk about gun control,” in 3…2…1…

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Maddies Mom  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:19:23pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Ugh.

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Well, one of those things can be regulated, the other can’t.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:19:48pm

Any word from Dana MAHGUNZ!!!11!!? She blocked me a while back.

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:21:13pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:21:23pm

re: #117 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The problem with studying history
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:21:29pm

TV’s Frank appears to be having a happy day

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:22:50pm

So, did we learn anything from this press conference? Or did we just learn that men have hearts and they can kill people.

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:22:53pm

re: #94 bratwurst

Fuck that guy.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:23:29pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:25:30pm

re: #139 Jenner7

So, did we learn anything from this press conference? Or did we just learn that men have hearts and they can kill people.

We learned that we need to squint our eyes, clinch our teeth, and pray even harder.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:25:55pm

One more from TV’s Frank. Sure it’s a couple of days old, but good comedy is eternal. Or so Ovid claimed.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:27:03pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

If the suspect was black, we’d already have a name and photos of him.

And his political party affiliation.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:27:56pm

re: #144 Frankie Five Angels

And his political party affiliation.

Which would be Democrat, no matter whom he actually voted for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:28:04pm

re: #136 Jenner7

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what an ass…

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:28:48pm

re: #144 Frankie Five Angels

And his political party affiliation.

No, there would be some confusion over whether he was part of Black Lives Matter or the New Black Panthers.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:29:22pm

re: #142 Frankie Five Angels

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:29:22pm

Smart as a whip, that Baby Whiplash==>

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CuriousLurker  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:31:18pm

OFFS, if one more person asks for prayers I’m gonna have to run into my bedroom and scream into a pillow. Let’s not change any-damned-thing about our society, let’s just sit here and PRAY every time something horrible happens.

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Tigger2  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:31:32pm

re: #141 lawhawk

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:32:29pm

I am kinda wondering how much the delay in actual info from the police is them scrambling to build a narrative how they are going to explain this after most of America Wingnuttia thinks this was BLM either doing it or stirring it up?

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thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:33:02pm

re: #150 CuriousLurker

OFFS, if one more person asks for prayers I’m gonna have to run into my bedroom and scream into a pillow. Let’s just not change any-damned-thing about our society, let’s just sit here and PRAY every time something horrible happens.

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Because if they pray hard enough, White American Jesus will come back and then they don’t have to worry about any of this shit anymore.

Ugh. I’m so tired of the American Church. They’re so worried and freaked out about imaginary persecution and protecting their power, and they do absolutely nothing about going out into the world and being the hands and feet of Jesus.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:33:59pm

re: #126 bratwurst

Oh please…

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Please, GOP! Replace one asshole with an even bigger one!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:34:42pm

re: #113 Timothy Watson

I guess there’s no point in pointing out that there are police emojis?

Forget it, she’s on a roll.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:34:46pm

The suspect has been identified as a black male named Gavin Eugene Long of Kansas City, Missouri, sources tell CBS News. He was born on July 17, 1987..

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blueraven  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:35:04pm

Ugh

Sources told CBS News the suspect has been identified as Gavin Eugene Long, a 19-year-old black man.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:35:53pm

Facebook Post

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:36:15pm

re: #141 lawhawk

That’s not her.
Ivanka is @IvankaTrump

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:36:52pm

re: #150 CuriousLurker

OFFS, if one more person asks for prayers I’m gonna have to run into my bedroom and scream into a pillow. Let’s just not change any-damned-thing about our society, let’s just sit here and PRAY every time something horrible happens.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:37:51pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gotcha.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:39:01pm

Welp, I was wrong. I’m really surprised, since softball language is usually reserved for white killers. Maybe the times really are a-changin’?

Now on to the “WTF was his problem??” question. Originally from MO, car had TX plates supposedly, but neither of those mean much as people move all around the South. I wonder if he was another asshole on the edge and got pushed over by the recent shootings, like what used to happen back in 2012-13ish, before it became an everyday thing.

Or, worst case, he was out to kill cops in particular. Birthday is an odd choice though.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:39:22pm

Damn. Not good.

I am all in support of Black issues. I hope Dallas and now Baton Rouge don’t turn to be exactly what the Black issues organizations (like BLM) do not need. Cool heads needed. Cool heads in short supply.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:39:51pm

re: #141 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:39:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:40:06pm

re: #161 lawhawk

Gotcha.

yep. And that other twitter account was created in June 2016.

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:40:08pm

re: #162 Pawn of the Oppressor

+1 for saying so. It pays to wait. the faster the technology (Twitter et al) the more important that becomes.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:40:37pm

re: #157 blueraven

Someone writing or editing that article has poor math skills.
1987-2016 is 29 years

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:41:15pm

re: #49 blueraven

Says he doesn’t have the power. Sadly, that may be true.

That usually doesn’t stand in the way of Kasich doing what he wants to do.

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:41:23pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson
Kudos.
So many other blog hosts would have ignored the facts even somewhat contrary.

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blueraven  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:41:24pm

MSNBC Pete Williams still saying sovereign citizens may be involved.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:42:47pm

re: #165 lawhawk

Only $174 a year to find out who killed those police officers? Wow, what a deal WSJ!

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:42:53pm

Scott Baio manages to piss off Howard Stern…

Scott Baio on Howard Stern Radio Show interview 1994 (Happy Days, Joni Loves Chachi)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:45:59pm

good.

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:46:52pm

re: #63 SoundGuy 2016

So you’re a New Yorker too? You’re so well traveled, and at the same time live rent free inside the heads of nutbars the world over.

He joins all the other snobbish New Yorker’s. New Yorker’s what, you ask? Perhaps the ability to know the difference between plural and possessive.

Pedants are us.

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:46:58pm

What does our President say at this point? He must be exhausted.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:47:20pm
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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:48:34pm

re: #173 Joe Bacon

Scott Baio manages to piss off Howard Stern…

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Pissing off Stern…..not wise.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:49:57pm

re: #153 thedopefishlives

Because if they pray hard enough, White American Jesus will come back and then they don’t have to worry about any of this shit anymore.

Ugh. I’m so tired of the American Church. They’re so worried and freaked out about imaginary persecution and protecting their power, and they do absolutely nothing about going out into the world and being the hands and feet of Jesus.

THIS. I mean seriously, the Muslim community (worldwide) is expected to assist—and in fact has been assisting—in trying to help identify & stop some of its members, especially youth, from turning to violent extremism. How about if instead of doing that we stop and every time something happens we just say, “So sad, what a tragedy. We’re gonna pray for the the victims & their families.” Then refuse to admit there’s any sort of problem or make any other effort to change things.

Everybody would be totally cool with that, right?

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:50:02pm

From SPLC re: sovereign citizen movement:

In December 2003, members of the Bixby family, who lived outside of Abbeville, S.C., killed two law enforcement officers in a dispute over a small sliver of land next to their home. And in May 2010, Jerry and Joseph Kane, a father and son sovereign team, shot to death two West Memphis, Ark., police officers who had pulled them over in a routine traffic stop. Later that day, the Kanes were killed in a fierce shootout with police that wounded two other officers.

The sovcits have killed repeatedly targeted law enforcement.

They don’t care about law and order and consider themselves a law unto themselves.

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blueraven  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:51:33pm
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CuriousLurker  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:51:42pm

re: #160 Great White Snark

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:54:13pm
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Snarknado!  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:54:41pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

READ IT? But it’s more than 147 characters!

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:55:38pm

Ugh. I dunno. This year has been brutal.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:56:18pm
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dangerman  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:56:59pm

Cleveland police union asks for suspension of ‘open carry’ in wake of
Baton Rouge, ahead of RNC

“We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something — I don’t care if it’s constitutional or not at this point,” Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association, told CNN. “They can fight about it after the RNC or they can lift it after the RNC, but I want him to absolutely outlaw open-carry in Cuyahoga County until this RNC is over.”

(bolding mine)

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:57:09pm
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thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:57:56pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

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WHY DO YOU HATE THE CONSTITUTION?!?!?!?!?

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:58:18pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A Mom Anon  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:58:21pm

re: #185 Jenner7

Yep. Because some people, those especially who live in closed little enclaves who won’t be directly effected what they provoke, have decided that they should just keep pouring gas on the fire and then scream “HEY!!! Let’s you and them fight! FIGHT! It’s THEIR FAULT! HATE THEM! FIGHT!”

I can’t forgive that shit. They are pitting Americans against each other and smugly looking down their noses at the mess they’re making. Fuck them. I’ve had it with this shit.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:58:52pm

Once again, the appropriate response to all of these is it’s too easy for people to get access to weapons that can cause a lot of death and injury, and there is no reason for a non-military/non-police person to have one.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:59:10pm

Mike Pence Argued In An Op-Ed That Disney’s “Mulan” Was Liberal Propaganda

“Obviously, this is Walt Disney’s attempt to add childhood expectation to the cultural debate over the role of women in the military,” Pence wrote. Obviously.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:59:25pm

What kind of mental instability does one have to go on a shooting rampage….and on his birthday of all days.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:59:29pm

OK, I give up…

Facebook Video

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CuriousLurker  Jul 17, 2016 • 1:59:33pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

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I was just going to say that.

Sovereign Citizens Movement: Recruits

In the late 2000s and early 2010s, most new recruits to the sovereign citizens movement are people who have found themselves in a desperate situation, often due to the economy or foreclosures, and are searching for a quick fix. Others are intrigued by the notions of easy money and living a lawless life, free from unpleasant consequences. Many self-identified sovereigns today are black and apparently completely unaware of the racist origins of their ideology. When they experience some small success at using redemption techniques to battle minor traffic offenses or local licensing issues, they’re hooked. For many, it’s a political issue. They don’t like taxes, traffic laws, child support obligations or banking practices, but they are too impatient to try to change what they dislike through traditional, political means.

splcenter.org

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:00:08pm

Caveats ! Using private as a substitute for donotlink. On L.E. beliefs about Sovereign Citizens. There are African American based Sovereign Citizens. I found some of this dogwhistle. But I hope I’m right to include it as background for the registered.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:00:33pm

It’d be kinda funny if the DNC had The Fonz or Richie Cunningham speak, but Chachi doesn’t deserve that kind of response.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:01:59pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

good.

VERY Good! I have over 100,000 miles on United. I would have hated to boycott them!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:02:23pm

re: #193 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mike Pence Argued In An Op-Ed That Disney’s “Mulan” Was Liberal Propaganda

Dumbfuck can’t be bothered to know that it’s based on a real story from China, but what else would we expect from a Republican complaining about Ebil Librul Medier Agenduhs!

“This is a story that shows girls as heroes!” Thanks Captain obvious, maybe that was the point…

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:03:01pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart

OK, I give up…

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I’ll take this over Black Friday stampedes any day.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:03:06pm

re: #183 Jenner7

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Already getting going in Cleveland are they? It’s going to be a real busy week.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:05:10pm

re: #198 lawhawk

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It’d be kinda funny if the DNC had The Fonz or Richie Cunningham speak, but Chachi doesn’t deserve that kind of response.

When they had a number you could dial to say if you wanted Happy Days to be run Chachi-nated or De-Chachi-nated, I always voted “De-Chachi-nated”.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:05:50pm

re: #187 dangerman

What if they’re not Ohio residents?

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CuriousLurker  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:06:03pm

re: #197 Great White Snark

Caveats ! Using private as a substitute for donotlink. On L.E. beliefs about Sovereign Citizens. There are African American based Sovereign Citizens. I found some of this dogwhistle. But I hope I’m right to include it as background for the registered.

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Additional info here, from a couple of years ago: rawstory.com

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:06:25pm

re: #179 CuriousLurker

THIS. I mean seriously, the Muslim community (worldwide) is expected to assist—and in fact has been assisting—in trying to help identify & stop some of its members, especially youth, from turning to violent extremism. How about if instead of doing that we stop and every time something happens we just say, “So sad, what a tragedy. We’re gonna pray for the the victims & their families.” Then refuse to admit there’s any sort of problem or make any other effort to change things.

Everybody would be totally cool with that, right?

You can’t help but notice when people insist “they” as some community or vast religion condemn it or fix it or help more, those people are never satisfied. You know how futile it has been in the past to post links, facts to the contrary. In Islam, it’s trivially easy to find Imams and spokespeople to say those words. Of course the FBI must be discreet about the help they do get, damnable catch 22 there. Flip that coin to the right and meet darvo. Also saw this at the height of the Catholic child abuse by priests issue in the media. Catholic friends who are as kind as anyone could hope for just aghast, rendered mute by the sheer ferocity of trolls. Ugh.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:06:43pm

re: #183 Jenner7

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Guy near the front wearing a CCCP shirt and carrying an “abolish capitalism” sign. Not helpful.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:07:02pm

They lost the fight on Obamacare.

They lost the fight on Benghazi.

And they lost the fight on Gay Marriage.

But they won the battle for the guns.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:07:10pm

The Nuns on the Bus are approaching Cleveland. They are suspected of carrying rulers.

toledoblade.com

(Wife put some diesel in their tank.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:07:31pm

President Obama Delivers a Statement

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:08:27pm

Directed from RawStory to: Without mentioning him by name, the Wall Street Journal reported that Long was part of an anti-government group called the New Freedom Movement.

Anyone subscribe to WSJ (I know….dumb question)?

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Tigger2  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:08:44pm

re: #207 Big Beautiful Door

Guy near the front wearing a CCCP shirt and carrying an “abolish capitalism” sign. Not helpful.

It looked like that guy was standing off to the side then just jumped in.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:09:07pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

The Nuns on the Bus are approaching Cleveland. They are suspected of carrying rulers.

toledoblade.com

(Wife put some diesel in their tank.)

LOL—there for a sec I though it was going to be a story about them getting pulled over because someone mistook them for hijabis.

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CarolJ  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:09:18pm

re: #196 CuriousLurker

I was just going to say that.

re: #196 CuriousLurker`

Not surprising. The internet facilitates self-recruitment by people who would have in the past had to go to a metting. So Black people who would otherwise find first hand what “sovereign citizens” are really for, don’t really know. Not to mention there are probably some groups who are looking to branch out beyond the usual white “sovereign” in order to grow their numbers. Numbers count, and if you’ve exhausted the usual sources of membership…

Totally delusional and paranoid this concept. If the citizen is a “sovereign” then how could they possibly live and work in a society that requires compromise in order to function? If you are sovereign, and so am I, who decides conflicts?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:10:05pm

re: #213 CuriousLurker

LOL—there for a sec I though it was going to be a story about them getting pulled over because someone mistook them for hijabis.

Nah. All/most of these are Undercover Nuns.

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:10:22pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:11:14pm

re: #211 Dr. Matt

I subscribe to WSJ. Do you think it is worth it for me to sign in?

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dangerman  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:11:54pm

re: #204 Eric The Fruit Bat

What if they’re not Ohio residents?

well if they’re going for constitutional-or-not i guess it doesn’t matter much.

apparently the governor’s office isn’t having any part of it

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:12:09pm

re: #208 Eclectic Cyborg

They lost the fight on Obamacare.

They lost the fight on Benghazi.

And they lost the fight on Gay Marriage.

But they won the battle for the guns.

Oh, the battle for the guns hasn’t happened yet. Hopefully it never will, but if it does, the gunfuckers are going to be completely routed if we have to trample out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored again. Hopefully we’ll keep our boots on their necks until that nest of vipers is cleaned out this time.

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:12:39pm

re: #152 ObserverArt

I am kinda wondering how much the delay in actual info from the police is them scrambling to build a narrative how they are going to explain this after most of America Wingnuttia thinks this was BLM either doing it or stirring it up?

They’ll slap their foreheads, say “OMG, I totally get it now. That instant reaction and assumption, that’s what we’ve been doing to black people. Now we see how wrong we’ve been, we’ll never do it again.” And they all lived happily ever after.

Or not.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:13:27pm

re: #208 Eclectic Cyborg

They lost the fight on Obamacare.

They lost the fight on Benghazi.

And they lost the fight on Gay Marriage.

But they won the battle for the guns.

It’s turning out to not be much of a win. I wonder how many cops will have to die before the pressure is ratcheted up on the NRA. Might not matter since none of the other deaths seem to have.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:14:17pm

re: #214 CarolJ

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Not surprising. The internet facilitates self-recruitment by people who would have in the past had to go to a metting. So Black people who would otherwise find first hand what “sovereign citizens” are really for, don’t really know. Not to mention there are probably some groups who are looking to branch out beyond the usual white “sovereign” in order to grow their numbers. Numbers count, and if you’ve exhausted the usual sources of membership…

Totally delusional and paranoid this concept. If the citizen is a “sovereign” then how could they possibly live and work in a society that requires compromise in order to function? If you are sovereign, and so am I, who decides conflicts?

Colt.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:14:53pm

re: #214 CarolJ

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Not surprising. The internet facilitates self-recruitment by people who would have in the past had to go to a metting. So Black people who would otherwise find first hand what “sovereign citizens” are really for, don’t really know. Not to mention there are probably some groups who are looking to branch out beyond the usual white “sovereign” in order to grow their numbers. Numbers count, and if you’ve exhausted the usual sources of membership…

Totally delusional and paranoid this concept. If the citizen is a “sovereign” then how could they possibly live and work in a society that requires compromise in order to function? If you are sovereign, and so am I, who decides conflicts?

They believe conflicts should be resolved based on English Common Law by citizen juries. No lawyers; there is a secret constitutional amendment which stripped all lawyers of their citizenship.

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:15:05pm

I didn’t exactly like Obama’s response on Ferguson, but upon reflection: What the fuck is he supposed to say? Because speaking the truth makes him a “divider” and his public support for police officers is not to be believed.

Okay. I’m turning of the news and watching something funny.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:15:13pm

re: #214 CarolJ

Totally delusional and paranoid this concept. If the citizen is a “sovereign” then how could they possibly live and work in a society that requires compromise in order to function? If you are sovereign, and so am I, who decides conflicts?

Who indeed.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:15:46pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

The Nuns on the Bus are approaching Cleveland. They are suspected of carrying rulers.

toledoblade.com

(Wife put some diesel in their tank.)

Toledo huh? I wonder if the Sisters of Saint Francis is behind this. Stopping in Toledo which is the home of a Catholic Diocese of Toledo makes me think so, because the nuns that taught at my school system were Sisters of St. Francis of Mary Immaculate out of Joliet Illinois. And Toledo was the diocese our church was under. They were always active socially and many of them were close to being outright hippies back in my day. (Graduated HS in ‘72)

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worldknot  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:16:05pm

If I were a sovereign citizen group looking to start shit, I’d ask the black guy to volunteer.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:16:10pm

I’m in my office and Facebook is blocked, but apparently two pages related to the New Freedom Movement are all about gunz and Trump. See below….

facebook.com

facebook.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:17:13pm

re: #226 ObserverArt

Toledo huh? I wonder if the Sisters of Saint Francis is behind this. Stopping in Toledo which is the home of a Catholic Diocese of Toledo makes me think so, because the nuns that taught at my school system were Sisters of St. Francis of Mary Immaculate out of Joliet Illinois. And Toledo was the diocese our church was under. They were always active socially and many of them were close to being outright hippies back in my day. (Graduated HS in ‘72)

Check the story photo caption. Your subversive virgins are represented.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:18:31pm

Dr Matt it is a restatement of almost everything else that we have seen here at LGF and other places on the web. WSJ will not allow me to link it here and you might be able to get it on the back end through yahoo or google.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:19:07pm
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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:19:58pm

Media Observation-Next up the rundown of Sov. Cit, Senior Al Qaeda cell, or Isis aficionado, or BLM, or Mentally Ill, or disaffected, or young, or black, and or Mom never spanked him- for his lethal anti cop motivation. Did I miss any? Watch CNN for the rest.

Edit oh duh Video Games!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:20:18pm

re: #230 PhillyPretzel

Dr Matt it is a restatement of almost everything else that we have seen here at LGF and other places on the web. WSJ will not allow me to link it here and you might be able to get it on the back end through yahoo or google.

Ok. Thanks for checking it out.

I’m sure we’ll see better (and free) details throughout the day/night

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:20:19pm

re: #222 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The law firm of Smith and Wesson.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:21:58pm

re: #229 Decatur Deb

Check the story photo caption. Your subversive virgins are represented.

Yeah, when I first went to the story that photo didn’t pop up right away. And I see the other nun, Sister Simone Campbell is the real culprit behind this obvious Commie organization.

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:22:24pm

re: #221 CuriousLurker

It’s turning out to not be much of a win. I wonder how many cops will have to die before the pressure is ratcheted up on the NRA. Might not matter since none of the other deaths seem to have.

Police and NRA ties are really deep and go way back. They buy a lot of guns, and can pressure makers of pistols, shotguns, and the companies like TASER. This could, just might go down differently. But that’s me the optimist.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:23:01pm

re: #235 ObserverArt

Yeah, when I first went to the story that photo didn’t pop up right away. And I see the other nun, Sister Simone Campbell is the real culprit behind this obvious Commie organization.

Nuns and monks were avowed communists centuries before it was cool.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:24:15pm

re: #223 Big Beautiful Door

They believe conflicts should be resolved based on English Common Law by citizen juries. No lawyers; there is a secret constitutional amendment which stripped all lawyers of their citizenship.

Titles of Nobility Amendment
 (The Real Thirteenth Amendment)

If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:24:28pm

re: #227 worldknot

If I were a sovereign citizen group looking to start shit, I’d ask the black guy to volunteer.

Three of them apparently, and the black guy just happens to be the one killed so he can be identified. My surprised face, etc.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:26:11pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:26:26pm

re: #238 FormerDirtDart

This is why when he was Mayor of NYC Guilaini (please excuse the spelling) was given an honorary knighthood.

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:27:24pm

Just add this to anything I said about “police”. Of course “police” is a generalization usually best avoided. BR policing is a world apart from NYC or Los Angeles. Not monolithic anymore than anyone else group.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:27:32pm

re: #237 Decatur Deb

Nuns and monks were avowed communists centuries before it was cool.

Those nuns bent my mind…never to recover! 12 years of indoctrination. Can’t shake the thinking even if the practice of the religion isn’t active anymore. They were that good.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:28:16pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart

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That is a whole lot of Trumps.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:29:20pm

re: #244 Big Beautiful Door

That is a whole lot of Trumps.

Roger Zelazny is rolling in his grave.

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Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:29:49pm

I’m tired of this.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:30:21pm

re: #246 Varek Raith

You are not the only one.

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:30:49pm

Sigh…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:31:19pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:34:24pm

re: #247 PhillyPretzel

You are not the only one.

Millions. But no one seems to care about those millions.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:34:32pm

Racist tweet incoming.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:35:23pm

Updated from WSJ:

Three officers were killed and three others were injured in Baton Rouge, La., following a shooting incident Sunday morning, authorities said.

The alleged gunman, who was killed by police, has been identified as 29-year-old Gavin Long, according to a person briefed on the investigation. The suspect was from Missouri and was affiliated with an antigovernment group called the New Freedom Group, the person added.

Two others detained for questioning in the shooting were captured across the Mississippi River from Baton Rouge, the person briefed on the investigation said.

The shooting occurred at about 9 a.m. on Airline Highway near Old Hammond Highway, a commercial area of the city, according to the East Baton Rouge Sheriff’s Office. Numerous officers from that agency and the Baton Rouge Police Department suffered injuries and were taken to local hospitals, the sheriff’s office said

.

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:35:58pm

Wow, “tomahawk” directed at Elizabeth Warren. I guess Laura lost her dog whistle.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:36:03pm

Meanwhile…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:36:53pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

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Make America Puke Again.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:36:58pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

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Do they all know they’re being asked to speak?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:38:18pm

re: #256 thedopefishlives

Do they all know they’re being asked to speak?

“Everyone on stage for the Hawaiian number!!”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:38:48pm

re: #252 Dr. Matt

No way to know if either of those Facebook pages are the group connected to Gavin Long; it’s a pretty generic name. I have a feeling those aren’t the ones.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:39:27pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

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is the roll call of the states teus or weds?

sure to be fun if there are any disruptions…

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:39:37pm

re: #231 Dr. Matt

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A few years ago I spent several days in hospital because of bowel blockage, which I assume makes me an honorary member of the New Freedom Movement. I do so hope this doesn’t mean I can expect an endless stream of email and telephone solicitations, especially since I already gave at the orifice. ;-)

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Jenner7  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:40:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:40:56pm

What the fuck.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:41:05pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

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what a snoozer of a speaking lineup

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:42:10pm

re: #261 Jenner7

The uncouth one as always is completely clueless.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:42:37pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:42:52pm

re: #263 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what a snoozer of a speaking lineup

Chris Christie isn’t among the headline speakers. Odd.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:43:00pm

re: #208 Eclectic Cyborg

They lost the fight on Obamacare.

They lost the fight on Benghazi.

And they lost the fight on Gay Marriage.

But they won the battle for the guns.

And as that famed conservative, Mao Zedong, noted, “All power comes out of the barrel of a gun.”

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Dave In Austin  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:43:30pm

The 1st thought of every Cleveland Cop after putting on new riot armor…

“I’m Batman…..”

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thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:43:36pm

re: #266 Big Beautiful Door

Chris Christie isn’t among the headline speakers. Odd.

He didn’t suck up hard enough.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:43:51pm

re: #266 Big Beautiful Door

Chris Christie isn’t among the headline speakers. Odd.

I hope he’s responsible for the refreshments.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:44:06pm

re: #266 Big Beautiful Door

Chris Christie isn’t among the headline speakers. Odd.

He’ll be too busy running to McDonald’s.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:44:25pm

re: #214 CarolJ

If you are sovereign, and so am I, who decides conflicts?

The one quickest on the draw.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:44:56pm

re: #266 Big Beautiful Door

Chris Christie isn’t among the headline speakers. Odd.

that “tense” phone conversation last friday btw the yam and the ham must have included some choice expressions

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bratwurst  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:45:42pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

What? “Benghazi Themed Night” got called off?!?!? What am I going to do with this Gaddafi costume I rented now???

BTW: those “headliners” listed for the first two nights are an insult to heads and lines!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:46:40pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

18m
Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
President Obama just had a news conference, but he doesn’t have a clue. Our country is a divided crime scene, and it will only get worse!

Trump Reportedly Making Big Strides In Learning To Speak Dog Whistle

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:46:58pm

re: #258 Charles Johnson

No way to know if either of those Facebook pages are the group connected to Gavin Long; it’s a pretty generic name. I have a feeling those aren’t the ones.

There also appears to be conflicting reports on whether it is the New Freedom Group or the New Freedom Movement.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:47:03pm

re: #273 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

that “tense” phone conversation last friday btw the yam and the ham must have included some choice expressions

The word Manafort admitted to was “livid”.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:47:19pm

re: #274 bratwurst

What? “Benghazi Themed Night” got called off?!?!? What am I going to do with this Gaddafi costume I rented now???

BTW: those “headliners” listed for the first two nights are an insult to heads and lines!

You’re misreading it. We can’t “Make America Safe Again” without getting to the bottom of the Benghazi coverup.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:47:27pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

There also appears to be conflicting reports on whether it is the New Freedom Group or the New Freedom Movement.

Judean or Samaritan?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:50:02pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:50:29pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

The word Manafort admitted to was “livid”.

You mean the Chris Christie I saw on Thursday say he would understand whoever Donald picked wasn’t exactly expressing his hopes for the job or else?

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ipsos  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:51:31pm

re: #266 Big Beautiful Door

Chris Christie isn’t among the headline speakers. Odd.

And I’m pleased to see that astronaut Eileen Collins has vanished from the list, too. I’ll be even happier if she doesn’t show up in Cleveland at all. We’ll see, I guess.

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blueraven  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:51:55pm

re: #261 Jenner7


First of all. POTUS did not have a press conference. He made a statement.
second…WTF does this mean? Our country is a divided crime scene

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:52:58pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:53:27pm

Freepers are milling about in confusion again.

The head of the Cleveland Police union, Steve Loomis, has said that “Obama has blood on his hands,” but he has also asked Kasich for a suspension of open carry.
He is crucified on the latter string, and praised as a great American patriot on the former.

How do you drive a freeper crazy? Put him in a round room and have Sean Hannity tell him to piss in the corner.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:53:29pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:53:35pm

re: #251 Frankie Five Angels

Racist tweet incoming.

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It’s funny because tomahawks are used for hacking, and Laura Ingraham is a hack.

Or something.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:54:14pm

re: #282 ipsos

And I’m pleased to see that astronaut Eileen Collins has vanished from the list, too. I’ll be even happier if she doesn’t show up in Cleveland at all. We’ll see, I guess.

Might still be speaking but not in prime time. I heard on MSNBC that Kid Rock and Lynyrd Skynyrd are attending. No word on Ted Nugent that I’ve heard.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:54:31pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

Judean or Samaritan?

Splitter!

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:54:32pm

re: #261 Jenner7

Huh?

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:55:20pm

re: #283 blueraven

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:55:56pm

re: #290 De Kolta Chair

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Huh?

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Duhm-Duhm.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:56:42pm

re: #291 lawhawk

He borrowed some from Palin. /half

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:56:56pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2016 • 2:56:57pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:00:01pm

Turkey. Millions of people flooding the streets all over the country after Erdogan urged them to. The failed coup has been very unpopular.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:00:20pm

re: #294 gocart mozart

If TBogg knows America Ferrera that well, I doubt she, nor his wife, really want everyone to know it.

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:01:14pm

So finally turned the TV on. Typing, reading. Over my shoulder I keep hearing “crapfest” Finally pay a little more attention-Red Lobster Crabfest

Is is News Fatigue?

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:02:32pm

“New Freedom Movement” seems to be pretend communists playing with guns.
facebook.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:02:52pm

re: #295 FormerDirtDart

Just went to the most recent listed address for the alleged #BatonRouge shooter in KC… A man answered the door with an AK-47

Silly lamestream reporter. I bet it was an SKS.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:03:42pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

2012 redux or ridonculous? You decide, won’t you?

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:04:11pm

re: #299 gocart mozart

Assumes that they have an online presence.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:04:42pm
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Kragar  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:06:44pm
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dangerman  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:10:04pm

re: #291 lawhawk

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he’s calls it a “press conference” because his VP event yesterday was also billed as a “press conference”, even though no questions were allowed.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:10:19pm

re: #291 lawhawk

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Coming in September from Penguin Books: Roald Dahl’s “Obama And The Phantom Presser.” Save the Date!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:10:25pm

re: #304 Kragar

Looking tough? Hmm. Is that what the uncouth one sees when he looks in the mirror?

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:13:10pm

re: #299 gocart mozart

Or is it “New Freedom Group”? twitter.com

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:14:08pm

re: #300 Decatur Deb

Silly lamestream reporter. I bet it was an SKS.

You’re wrong too. It was an AK-74. :D

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:15:12pm

re: #304 Kragar

He really has no idea what he’s saying, does he?

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:15:36pm

re: #290 De Kolta Chair

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Huh?

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Good Law & Order humor use with that meme.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:16:00pm

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

You’re wrong too. It was an AK-74. :D

Ishmak is still embargoed.

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:18:27pm

re: #287 Grunthos the Flatulent

It’s funny because tomahawks are used for hacking, and Laura Ingraham is a hack.

Or something.

It’s an “Elizabeth Warren is a Fake Indian” line. The joke’s not funny anymore.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:19:38pm

re: #301 De Kolta Chair

2012 redux or ridonculous? You decide, won’t you?

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Giphy

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:19:50pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:21:32pm

re: #266 Big Beautiful Door

Chris Christie isn’t among the headline speakers. Odd.

He was a day ago.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:22:26pm

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

Good Law & Order humor use with that meme.

Thanks. They filmed and hung out for so long down here in NYC’s City Hall area that they were like neighbors. They kept a lot of businesses, from delis to bars, going. ;-)

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:23:48pm

re: #312 Decatur Deb

Ishmak is still embargoed.

True, but Arsenal Inc. still makes decent-quality 5.45mm AKs the are for sale in the US.

They also make AKs that the US has supplied to the FSA in Syria (some of which have ended up in the hands of Al Qaeda’s Jabat Al-Nusra) and they have also been purchased by the government of Iraq for military service there.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:25:48pm

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

True, but Arsenal Inc. still makes decent-quality 5.45mm AKs the are for sale in the US.

They also make AKs that the US has supplied to the FSA in Syria (some of which have ended up in the hands of Al Qaeda’s Jabat Al-Nusra) and they have also been purchased by the government of Iraq for military service there.

Is Arsenal Turkish? Supply chain from there might be a little shaky.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:26:10pm

re: #295 FormerDirtDart

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And Megan has a problem with someone’s free exercise the Second Amendment to defend their own home????

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:29:19pm

re: #320 Decatur Deb

Is Arsenal Turkish? Supply chain from there might be a little shaky.

No, they are Bulgarian. Most Turkish firearms sold in North America are shotguns.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:29:37pm

re: #320 Decatur Deb

Is Arsenal Turkish? Supply chain from there might be a little shaky.

Never mind—Bulgarian.

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lockjawcanbefun  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:32:26pm
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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:33:41pm

re: #323 Decatur Deb

Never mind—Bulgarian.

They also make grenade launchers, and those are also in use in Syria and Iraq:

Images and video of FSA-aligned Syrian rebel units fighting in the Aleppo area, shared on social media platforms, as well as images of weapons captured by Iraqi security forces during the advance to Fallujah, have shown the use of the Bulgarian Arsenal MSGL revolver-type grenade launcher by various groups in the region. In addition to the MSGL, Iraqi security forces also seized a Sterling type submachine gun (at right in above photo) in one recent incident. This may be a craft-produced copy, and is fitted with a large, craft-produced suppressor.

The Arsenal MSGL is a low-velocity revolver-type grenade launcher feeding from a 6-round cylinder, with an integrated ladder-style sight and removable front grip. With a weight of 6.53 kg (unloaded) and an overall length of 764 mm with the stock unfolded, the MSGL provides a relatively lightweight capability to rapidly employ multiple munitions of various types out to 400 meters. It is capable of firing a wide range of low-velocity 40 x 46SR mm ammunition up to 105 mm in overall length, including high explosive, high explosive fragmentation, screening/marking smoke, riot control agents, sound/flash, less-lethal impact, and more. The MSGL are packaged and shipped in boxes containing 5 units.

Arsenal also produces a variant of the MSGL, the MSGL-L, which has a longer chamber length and is thus capable of accepting 40 x 46SR mm cartridges with an overall length of up to 135 mm. As a result, it is capable of firing specialised rounds such as the Arsenal 40 x 46SR mm RLV-TB which features a thermobaric projectile. Whilst the perspective of some of the imagery makes positive identification of every example difficult, the models pictured in this post appear to be the standard MSGL.

It remains unclear how these weapons found their way into Syria and Iraq. The abundance of Bulgarian weapons in use by US-supported FSA units may suggest that the examples documented in Iraq were obtained by IS via battlefield capture from FSA forces in Aleppo, and later transported to IS positions in Iraq. Arsenal 40 x 46SR mm fired cartridge cases - marked to indicate production in 2014 - were documented by ARES in February 2016, which may further indicate that MSGL grenade launchers documented in Iraq originated in Syria.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:34:53pm

re: #324 lockjawcanbefun

Very sad.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:34:56pm

Apropos of Turkey, my baseball-themed “Attaboy Attaturk!” pun never took off as I imagined it would when I drunkenly blurted it out for the first and only time in the mid-1980s.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:36:39pm

re: #315 Charles Johnson

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Oh no. Now the whole thread is going to need disinfected.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:39:00pm

re: #327 De Kolta Chair

Apropos of Turkey, my baseball-themed “Attaboy Attaturk!” pun never took off as I imagined it would when I drunkenly blurted it out for the first and only time in the mid-1980s.

“Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:39:44pm

re: #328 ObserverArt

Oh no. Now the whole thread is going to need disinfected.

What the hell does he have against Karl Rove? And what did Rove have to with the war? Plus Bush was his lackey. And he uses the term “war criminal” like it was a bad thing….

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Whack-A-Mole  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:40:00pm

re: #322 Dark_Falcon

Some really nice CZ clone pistols come out of Turkish factories as well. I owned a CZ 75 compact clone by Tristar that was outstanding, especially for the price.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:44:36pm

BBL gators

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:45:47pm

re: #124 jaunte

And who can say what’s in men’s hearts?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Who Knows What Evil Lurks Within - The Shadow Knows

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:45:50pm

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

True, but Arsenal Inc. still makes decent-quality 5.45mm AKs the are for sale in the US.

They also make AKs that the US has supplied to the FSA in Syria (some of which have ended up in the hands of Al Qaeda’s Jabat Al-Nusra) and they have also been purchased by the government of Iraq for military service there.

I have a WASR (Romanian) 5.45x39mm, which I haven’t shot in almost a decade because of the damn ammunition prices.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:47:19pm

Not sure why, but I just remembered the 1978 movie Midnight Express. It was about an American that got tossed into a Turkish prison for selling drugs.

I remember how that movie made Turkey so strange and scary. How different the country is seen almost 40 years later.

I think it won an Oscar or two.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:50:46pm

Silly socialist me, I finally figured out why Trump plays “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” at his rallies:

Cleveland Police Union Asks Kasich To Suspend Open Carry Laws For RNC

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:51:31pm

re: #334 Timothy Watson

I have a WASR (Romanian) 5.45x39mm, which I haven’t shot in almost a decade because of the damn ammunition prices.

Decently priced ammo can be found, but you need to look around for it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:52:26pm

re: #335 ObserverArt

Not sure why, but I just remembered the 1978 movie Midnight Express. It was about an American that got tossed into a Turkish prison for selling drugs.

I remember how that movie made Turkey so strange and scary. How different the country is seen almost 40 years later.

I think it won an Oscar or two.

It was pretty much the first thing our Turkish liaisons wanted to talk about in the ’80s when setting up exercises. One of our noncoms spent the night in a jail in Tekirdag for trying to argue his way out of a $7.00 traffic ticket.

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:53:41pm

re: #335 ObserverArt

Not sure why, but I just remembered the 1978 movie Midnight Express. It was about an American that got tossed into a Turkish prison for selling drugs.

I remember how that movie made Turkey so strange and scary. How different the country is seen almost 40 years later.

I think it won an Oscar or two.

I went to Turkey in 1979. Spoke with a guy at a bar who said, ‘That’s a terrible movie. It portrays all Turks as violent. I want to kill the man who made it.’ His English was good. His sense of irony, maybe not so good. He also said, ‘Don’t go to the Bazaar. Too touristy.’ We saw him working there the next day.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:56:02pm

Via BJ:

Friends was racially divisive? Help me out here?

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:58:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:58:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:59:32pm

re: #342 Charles Johnson

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A shotgun is a comment.

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:59:38pm

re: #327 De Kolta Chair

Apropos of Turkey, my baseball-themed “Attaboy Attaturk!” pun never took off as I imagined it would when I drunkenly blurted it out for the first and only time in the mid-1980s.

Life is so not fair.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2016 • 3:59:58pm

re: #340 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Via BJ:

[Embedded content]

Friends was racially divisive? Help me out here?

No black people in New York City?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:00:13pm

re: #342 Charles Johnson

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That’s the second journalist to be met at the door with a gun today. They might want to quit knocking before they piss that guy off.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:01:05pm

Any minute now, Chuck C. Johnson is going to post some of his award winning research proving that Gavin Long is actually a Crips gang member, based on a Facebook photo that shows him sitting a chair. And chair starts with C, which stands for Crips.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:01:56pm

re: #345 Timothy Watson

No black people in New York City?

Well, Joey and Ross, in that order, dated Aisha Tyler for a while….

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:03:02pm

re: #347 Charles Johnson

Any minute now, Chuck C. Johnson is going to post some of his award winning research proving that Gavin Long is actually a Crips gang member, based on a Facebook photo that shows him sitting a chair. And chair starts with C, which stands for Crips.

While misspelling every other word.

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:03:04pm

re: #343 Decatur Deb

A shotgun is a comment.

Given what just happened, it would be rational for that man to fear someone shooting when he opens the door or trying to burn his house down if he does not answer. Under his circumstances, meeting anyone who is not law enforcement with a weapon in hand is justified.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:03:14pm

Halfway across the country from the shooting that is the original topic of this thread, this happened. When are we going to get around to fixing our gun problem?

A Milwaukee police officer was shot in a “vicious” attack early Sunday as he sat in his squad car while colleagues investigated a domestic disturbance call, an official said.

The suspected shooter, identified by police as a 20-year-old West Allis man with two felonies on his record, was found dead in a nearby yard, they said.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:03:56pm

re: #348 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, Joey and Ross, in that order, dated Aisha Tyler for a while….

She was in 9 of 236 episodes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:04:06pm

re: #347 Charles Johnson

Any minute now, Chuck C. Johnson is going to post some of his award winning research proving that Gavin Long is actually a Crips gang member, based on a Facebook photo that shows him sitting a chair. And chair starts with C, which stands for Crips.

WHAT COLOR SHOES WAS GAVIN WEARING??111???

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becominginvisible  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:06:36pm

Kansas City local reporters showed up at the apparent last known address of Long and were met with someone carrying a long gun or a AK-47 type weapon telling the media to leave them alone. This was around 4:30pm CST. Police were called and the area is now cordoned off. Reporter for local ABC affiliate is upset that Police have not yet called for an Operation 100, there was an ice cream truck cruising the area and the Police aren’t talking to the press but told them to move away. Then the reporter claimed the media was just there so the family could make a statement although the media isn’t sure if the current residents are related to the shooter or not.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:07:01pm

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHAT COLOR SHOES WAS GAVIN WEARING??111???

Couldn’t have been red or blue or he would have been shot before he did anything! [/shimshon]

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becominginvisible  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:07:28pm

I still type too slow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:08:36pm

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHAT COLOR SHOES WAS GAVIN WEARING??111???

oh, wait…

JUST ASKING THE QUESTIONS!!!11!!!!

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:09:15pm
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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:09:19pm

re: #347 Charles Johnson

Any minute now, Chuck C. Johnson is going to post some of his award winning research proving that Gavin Long is actually a Crips gang member, based on a Facebook photo that shows him sitting a chair. And chair starts with C, which stands for Crips.

Maybe he’ll claim Long was a Blood just for balance.

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:10:36pm

Also note that the gun carried by the man answering the door could be an AK-type shotgun, so both descriptions of it may be correct.

/The more you know…

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Snarknado!  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:10:59pm

On another subject entirely, are any lizards beside me going to the Las Vegas Star Trek convention?

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:11:41pm

Time for me to go get dinner, so I leave you with this:

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:11:58pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:14:03pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:14:58pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:15:55pm
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plansbandc  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:16:24pm

Apparently people don’t understand that there’s a difference between being called a traitor and being called a traitor to the American idea.

Trumpsters outraged over being called traitors, moonbats concern trolling over using the word traitor. FFS

Sweet meteor of death, come take us.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:18:31pm

Buzzfeed reporter just tweeted that this is Gavin Long on YouTube. I don’t know how she identified him, though, and I’m a little skeptical.

Convos With Cosmo on Protesting, Oppression, and how to deal with Bullies

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:19:00pm

re: #283 blueraven

WTF does this mean? Our country is a divided crime scene

Not a damned thing. But it gives the hate addicts who comprise his following their daily hit.

He has to do this because there’s no way a person who isn’t stoned out of their minds would vote for Trump!™

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(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:20:10pm

re: #368 Charles Johnson

Perhaps he’s a Gavin Long, not the Gavin Long.

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Thanos  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:20:28pm

re: #258 Charles Johnson

No way to know if either of those Facebook pages are the group connected to Gavin Long; it’s a pretty generic name. I have a feeling those aren’t the ones.

There are tons of New Freedom Groups all over the country, it look pretty dire until you realize that the vast majority are co-dependency support groups.

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:20:46pm
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bratwurst  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:21:17pm

Hurr hurr…this is hilarious because everyone knows WOMENS can’t bust ghosts!

Of course, it opened at number two in the country pulling down $46 million…losing only by 10% to the captive audience built into a family movie like Secret Life of Pets.

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Franklin  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:21:37pm

IDK, the Google search for

“I Am Cosmo” “gavin long” OR “gavin eugene long”

Brings up just 3 links that are all related to the current claim that it’s Gavin Long.

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TedStriker  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:21:49pm

re: #366 gocart mozart

Truly incredible: during 11 day period to July 4th, only SD & VT free of gun violence. 509 dead. (via @Nightline) pic.twitter.com

— Jon Williams (@WilliamsJon) July 17, 2016

What is the quote widely attributed to Stalin? “A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.”

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Franklin  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:23:13pm

On a lighter note….

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Franklin  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:24:25pm

Not even going to go back into Gus’s timeline to see the context, but I approve…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:25:36pm

re: #366 gocart mozart

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But look at Chicago! Black-on-Black crime! Y U libtards no talk about that? !!11Eleventy!!

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:26:04pm
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Tigger2  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:32:48pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:33:16pm

The new (last?) season of Inspector Lewis starts in an hour—perhaps the last sane thing on TV this week.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:34:52pm

re: #381 Decatur Deb

The new (last?) season of Inspector Lewis starts in an hour—perhaps the last sane thing on TV this week.

I’ll be watching Preacher later. Definitely not sane.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:39:54pm

re: #378 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The majority of crime is within race/ethnic group. Something like 80-88% of white crime is against fellow whites and similar levels of black crime is against fellow blacks.

It’s easily obtained data from the FBI. Politifact went and debunked Trump on this.

politifact.com

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:40:29pm

Just an honest mistake I’m sure.

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Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:41:11pm

re: #384 Frankie Five Angels

Just an honest mistake I’m sure.

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Funny how Pence was the ‘safe’ pick.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:41:52pm

Remember the SpaceX CRS-9 launch tonight at 9:45 PDT, 12:45 Eastern:

CRS-9 Hosted Webcast

NASA coverage starts at 8:30/11:30, the SpaceX webcast probably just 10 minutes or so before launch.

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:43:39pm
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Franklin  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:44:18pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:44:30pm

re: #384 Frankie Five Angels

Just an honest mistake I’m sure.

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re: #385 Varek Raith

Funny how Pence was the ‘safe’ pick.

Seems Pence and Trump share some traits that weren’t apparent at first. Now the media digging is making it clear. Crooks! Cons! Both!

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:44:33pm

re: #384 Frankie Five Angels

Just an honest mistake I’m sure.

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Nah, he admitted it wasn’t a mistake. He tried to guilt voters into accepting it by saying he’d taken a pay cut to run for public office and so he was making ends meet by using campaign donations. He opponent then beat him black and blue by pointing out to his supporters that if they were donating to his campaign, they were paying Pence’s mortgage.

He lost by 19 points.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:45:13pm

re: #384 Frankie Five Angels

Just an honest mistake I’m sure.

[Embedded content]

That would be the end of a Democratic VP candidate right there. GOP? Yawn!

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Franklin  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:45:34pm

We have a war problem.
We have a veterans health problem.
We have a gun problem.

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:45:50pm

re: #388 Franklin

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So after months of “You can’t trust Hillary, she voted for Iraq!,” now suddenly votes for the war were “misled.”

Mike Pence looks to be the gift that keeps on giving.

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:47:26pm

re: #375 TedStriker

What is the quote widely attributed to Stalin? “A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.”

Attributed to Stalin but no proof he ever said it.

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Franklin  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:48:18pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:48:27pm

Did the Yapping Yam even vet Pence?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:49:01pm

re: #393 Targetpractice

So after months of “You can’t trust Hillary, she voted for Iraq!,” now suddenly votes for the war were “misled.”

Mike Pence looks to be the gift that keeps on giving.

Pence’s debate performance is going to make Stockdale’s look good.

Not really dissing Admiral Stockdale—an admirable man in himself, but shoved into the wrong situation.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:51:19pm

Looks like that is Gavin Long. I checked the WHOIS for convoswithcosmo.club and it is indeed registered to Gavin Long of Kansas City.

theguardian.com

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:51:20pm

Very interesting. Rachel and Bryan Williams are on at the moment and they just showed the layout of the stage for the RNC at Quicken Arena.

The stage is along the one side of the basketball court instead of one of the ends of the court. Like most concert stages would be positioned. And the stage is big and wide.

This layout cuts a lot of seating in the arena. I’d say by 25% or more.

Is it being done on purpose for optics? Maybe small attendance expectations playing a part?

Just making observations and asking questions.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:52:12pm

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

It’s an “Elizabeth Warren is a Fake Indian” line. The joke’s not funny anymore.

Oh I do know what the reference is and boy do I ever know how funny it isn’t.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:52:23pm

re: #392 Franklin

We have a war problem.
We have a veterans health problem.
We have a gun problem.

[Embedded content]

These returned soldiers were part of the price for going to war. Some of us, who had seen this movie before, knew it going in. The Veteran’s Administration will still be paying this bill in 2060.

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:53:06pm

re: #381 Decatur Deb

The new (last?) season of Inspector Lewis starts in an hour—perhaps the last sane thing on TV this week.

Is your PBS station running “Dancing on the Edge”?

It’s about a black jazz band (mostly Americans, a couple of Brits) in 1930’s UK. Cast includes Chiwetel Ejiofor, John Goodman, Anthony Head, Jenna Coleman…

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:53:22pm

re: #384 Frankie Five Angels

Just an honest mistake I’m sure.

[Embedded content]

Pence, who had incorporated his deep Christian faith into his campaign,

There is no bigger red flag warning you that a guy’s a crook than this.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:53:43pm

re: #399 ObserverArt

Very interesting. Rachel and Bryan Williams are on at the moment and they just showed the layout of the stage for the RNC at Quicken Arena.

The stage is along the one side of the basketball court instead of one of the ends of the court. Like most concert stages would be positioned. And the stage is big and wide.

This layout cuts a lot of seating in the arena. I’d say by 25% or more.

Is it being done on purpose for optics? Maybe small attendance expectations playing a part?

Just making observations and asking questions.

There are less than 2,500 delegates. I don’t know how many other people are allowed into the Convention.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:53:52pm

re: #385 Varek Raith

Funny how Pence was the ‘safe’ pick.

Compared to the con man/crook Trump I guess he is.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:54:00pm

re: #402 sagehen

Is your PBS station running “Dancing on the Edge”?

It’s about a black jazz band (mostly Americans, a couple of Brits) in 1930’s UK. Cast includes Chiwetel Ejiofor, John Goodman, Anthony Head, Jenna Coleman…

Yes, but I’ve missed the first several showings.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:54:30pm

re: #402 sagehen

Mine is.
whyy.org

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Ming5000  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:55:09pm

re: #395 Franklin

I probably laughed at that video harder than I should have .

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:55:24pm

re: #396 Frankie Five Angels

Did the Yapping Yam even vet Pence?

By the same fine people who vetted Sarah Palin!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:55:57pm

His Twitter account: @ConvosWithCosmo

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:56:37pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:58:09pm

re: #392 Franklin

We have a war problem.
We have a veterans health problem.
We have a gun problem.

[Embedded content]

Who is going to tie him to the Dallas shooter and say there is an organization. If, it hasn’t already happened.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:58:31pm

re: #403 Skip Intro

There is no bigger red flag warning you that a guy’s a crook than this.

Pence is your typical Right Wing “Christian”. The real God he worships is Ayn Rand!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2016 • 4:59:57pm

re: #346 Big Beautiful Door

That’s the second journalist to be met at the door with a gun today. They might want to quit knocking before they piss that guy off.

Pretty sure he is already pissed off…

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:02:35pm

re: #388 Franklin

“A lot of information was given”.

Yeah. So?

Is Trump even capable of a complete thought? Will all information given to President Trump have to be twitter length with words like Sad, Liar, and Crooked so his tiny little mind can understand it?

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Ming5000  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:04:34pm

People need to dial it down a tad. Spouting “hyperbolic” rhetoric is not OK and has consequences.
TPM

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/west-virginia-lawmaker-clinton-execution-hyperbole
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Ming5000  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:06:25pm

re: #415 Skip Intro

Is Trump even capable of a complete thought? Will all information given to President Trump have to be twitter length with words like Sad, Liar, and Crooked so his tiny little mind can understand it?

How is Trump going to deal with world leaders that do not Twitter?
Hopefully they at least have facebook.

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scottslemmons  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:06:32pm

re: #373 bratwurst

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Hurr hurr…this is hilarious because everyone knows WOMENS can’t bust ghosts!

Of course, it opened at number two in the country pulling down $46 million…losing only by 10% to the captive audience built into a family movie like Secret Life of Pets.

And if I may say, it’s a wonderful, hilarious movie. Not a perfect film, but the audience at the showing this morning was laughing a lot, and after the post-credits scene, almost everyone spontaneously yelled out, “If someone asks you if you’re a god, you say YES!” so that was pretty amazing, too.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:06:57pm

re: #416 Ming5000

People need to dial it down a tad. Spouting “hyperbolic” rhetoric is not OK and has consequences.
TPM

[Embedded content]

That ass needs to be expelled from the West Virginia legislature immediately!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:08:26pm

This “ConvosWithCosmo” isn’t really adding up for me. I don’t really see any indications at all that he was planning something this violent. No pictures of guns or violent rhetoric. Doesn’t mean he didn’t do it, but it’s weird that there’s no sign of real extremism here.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:08:47pm

The Economist deservedly nails Trump to the wall!

economist.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:09:03pm

re: #417 Ming5000

How is Trump going to deal with world leaders that do not Twitter?
Hopefully they at least have facebook.

Can’t be FaceTime like Erdogan has—isn’t tRump boycotting Apple?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:12:50pm

re: #421 Joe Bacon

The Economist deservedly nails Trump to the wall!

economist.com

When contemplating a protest vote in favour of tearing up the system, which is what Mr Trump’s candidacy has come to represent, some voters may ask themselves what they have to lose. (That, after all, is the logic that drove many Britons to vote for Brexit on June 23rd.) But America in 2016 is peaceful, prosperous and, despite recent news, more racially harmonious than at any point in its history. So the answer is: an awful lot.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:13:17pm

re: #415 Skip Intro

“A lot of information was given”.

Yeah. So?

Is Trump even capable of a complete thought? Will all information given to President Trump have to be twitter length with words like Sad, Liar, and Crooked so his tiny little mind can understand it?

Why I’m sure that Cheeto Jesus will have his new BFF Pulpit Pimp pals pray for him! You can just see Franky Graham, Pat Robertson, Joel 0$teen and every other Pulpit Pimp in Trump’s prayer circle!

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scottslemmons  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:15:05pm

I was thinking this morning about the convention — everyone always talks about how Pat Buchanan’s keynote address was one of the things that scared a lot of people off from George H.W. Bush’s campaign, but I’ll be really surprised if there aren’t Buchanan Moments every day of the convention, if not during every speech. It’s going to be several long days of wingnuts screaming about how much they hate Hispanics and African-Americans and Muslims and LGBT people. Hell, I figure there’s a decent chance some delegate will be caught on camera showing off a swastika tattoo…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:17:03pm

re: #421 Joe Bacon

The Economist deservedly nails Trump to the wall!

economist.com

I like the “Britain messed up—don’t you do the same” subscription banner. Now to read the article….

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:19:37pm

No doubt that the right wing will claim this makes today’s mass shooter/cop killer a BLM activist:

Let’s just ignore that the commonality between all the recent mass shootings is easy availability of guns.

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:19:54pm

re: #420 Charles Johnson
I thought the same thing: he seems completely normal, not angry, not mentally ill, not violent etc.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:20:50pm

re: #423 Big Beautiful Door

But America in 2016 is peaceful, prosperous and, despite recent news, more racially harmonious than at any point in its history. So the answer is: an awful lot.

Not to the people who have been living and breathing talk radio and Fox “News” for the last couple of decades. To them the country has never been worse, and no one is going to be able to convince them otherwise.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:21:18pm

re: #427 lawhawk

No doubt that the right wing will claim this makes today’s mass shooter/cop killer a BLM activist:

[Embedded content]

Let’s just ignore that the commonality between all the recent mass shootings is easy availability of guns.

He black. What more is needed?

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:21:30pm
Former Marine

Another one.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:22:05pm

re: #141 lawhawk

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I’m sure this thread is dead, and I’ve had nothing to say about Trump’s family, but this vile piece of shit….

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:22:41pm

re: #411 Charles Johnson

OK, that is a bit strange but more Zen than psycho.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:22:55pm

re: #431 Nyet

Another one.

The dividends from George Bush’s wonderful wars just keep adding up.

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:23:40pm

re: #397 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Pence’s debate performance is going to make Stockdale’s look good.

Not really dissing Admiral Stockdale—an admirable man in himself, but shoved into the wrong situation.

Mentioning Stockdale in the same sentence as Pence is so sad. Stockdale was a brilliant man who was a POW who stood tall against his captors and led an admirable life. I’ve often said that I can pinpoint when I lost almost all respect for the media because of the shabby way they treated him.

(Not woofing at you, Rev—I just get really torked about the terrible way that man was treated.)

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:23:43pm

re: #432 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure this thread is dead, and I’ve had nothing to say about Trump’s family, but this vile piece of shit….

That’s not the real one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:23:56pm

re: #418 scottslemmons

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:24:23pm

GOP double standard time. Leslie Stahl interviews Trump re: Pence, and they discuss Pence’s position on Iraq.

Gives him a total pass, but then says Hillary should be accountable for the same exact position.

Yeah. This is the GOP. His supporters don’t care. They’ll ignore all this, because their hate of Hillary trumps the fact that they’re following the same fact free nonsensical ravings they’ve been getting out of right wing outlets for years on end.

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:26:13pm

re: #399 ObserverArt

Very interesting. Rachel and Bryan Williams are on at the moment and they just showed the layout of the stage for the RNC at Quicken Arena.

The stage is along the one side of the basketball court instead of one of the ends of the court. Like most concert stages would be positioned. And the stage is big and wide.

This layout cuts a lot of seating in the arena. I’d say by 25% or more.

Is it being done on purpose for optics? Maybe small attendance expectations playing a part?

Just making observations and asking questions.

Is there room for the Apprentice boardroom set? That’s always been my theory of how they’d go.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:26:23pm

re: #438 lawhawk

Now I see why Gingrich got the boot. The two of them both using the word “frankly” all the time would get confusing.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:26:51pm

re: #432 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure this thread is dead, and I’ve had nothing to say about Trump’s family, but this vile piece of shit….

Not really Ivanka

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:26:52pm

In retrospect…

What kind of jerk has “heterosexual pride”?

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:27:22pm

re: #427 lawhawk

If the Cosmo guy turns out to be him, he pretty well self declares just that.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:28:30pm

re: #439 BeachDem

Is there room for the Apprentice boardroom set? That’s always been my theory of how they’d go.

There had better be room for this, along with an 800 number for orders.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:28:40pm

re: #437 Eclectic Cyborg

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Not a great movie by any means. But there were a lot of laughs, and I thought Kate McKinnon in particular was hilarious. That’s all I need from a summer comedy.

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bratwurst  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:29:42pm

I observed during my time there in 2014 that LGF was not accessible via domestic networks in Turkey! I am not kidding.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:30:00pm

re: #443 Great White Snark

If the Cosmo guy turns out to be him, he pretty well self declares just that.

Therein lies the danger of an intentionally leaderless, open, amorphous movement. Your enemies will happily pin onto your movement the actions of anyone who ever expressed sympathy with its goals, and because you’ve decided to be open, you won’t be able to say they’re not.

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Great White Snark  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:31:57pm

re: #447 Blind Frog Belly White

Shows how foolish it is to quickly glom onto an ad hoc ISIS affiliation.

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:32:10pm

Seems to have been obsessed with all things “alpha”.

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A Cranky One  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:33:06pm

re: #440 Skip Intro

Now I see why Gingrich got the boot. The two of them both using the word “frankly” all the time would get confusing.

“Frankly”? My dear, I don’t give a damn.

/sorry, couldn’t resist

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:33:29pm

re: #445 Big Beautiful Door

I agree. She was one of the high points.

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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:33:33pm

re: #442 Nyet

What kind of jerk has “heterosexual pride”?

A pants-wetting homophobe. I wonder if he was glad about the killings in Orlando?

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:34:24pm

re: #447 Blind Frog Belly White

I have yet to see a decentralized movement where this hasn’t happened. Occupy, GamerGate, Anon, what have you.

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scottslemmons  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:34:56pm

re: #437 Eclectic Cyborg

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Well, the cameos didn’t really bother me — I already knew it wasn’t really a sequel, just a new story with a similar setup. (Ackroyd and the cameo at the very end were probably the most satisfying…) But I did think Rowan should’ve been fleshed out a lot more — heck, just imagine if they’d used a rebooted version of Ivo Shandor instead…

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:36:02pm

Lotsa stuff like

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bratwurst  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:36:57pm

re: #449 Nyet

Seems to have been obsessed with all things “alpha”.

That checks out…this is what he ate for breakfast:

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:38:30pm

One of the best, and I mean the really top people, bigly, really bigly speakers at the GOP convention this week. Look at that CV!

Lynne Patton is Vice President of The Eric Trump Foundation and Senior Assistant to Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, and Donald Trump, Jr.

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A Cranky One  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:38:41pm

re: #456 bratwurst

That checks out…this is what he ate for breakfast:

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But is it made from real Alphas?

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mmmirele  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:39:08pm

re: #376 Franklin

On a lighter note….

[Embedded content]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

You have asparagus! And you’re grilling it!

When I was a kid, I pretty much hated all green vegetables. Except asparagus. All us kids loved it. We used to fight over asparagus at the dinner table, until my mom came up with the brilliant idea that *she* would divide up the asparagus. So many for her, so many for my dad who was working late, so many for each of us kids…

I love it when the cafeteria at work serves asparagus. Of all the stuff they cook there, that’s the one thing they get PERFECT. It’s just right.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:39:14pm

re: #455 Nyet

Lotsa stuff like

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From Real Men Don’t Eat Quiche to here in 34 short years. That was supposed to be a parody, guys!

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:40:13pm

Maybe an unrelated mention of “Blood”, but who knows.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:40:24pm

re: #460 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From Real Men Don’t Eat Quiche to here in 34 short years. That was supposed to be a parody, guys!

Idiocracy wasn’t supposed to be a documentary.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:40:53pm

Pleasant dreams.

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:41:08pm

re: #452 stpaulbear

A pants-wetting homophobe. I wonder if he was glad about the killings in Orlando?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:41:29pm

re: #455 Nyet

Lotsa stuff like

[Embedded content]

“7 Things Alpha Males Don’t Do”:

1. Read articles titled “7 Things Alpha Males Don’t Do”
2. WRITE articles titled “7 Things Alpha Males Don’t Do”
3. Call themselves Alpha Males.
4. Think they are Alpha Males.
5. Treat other people like shit.
6. Make other people feel bad about themselves.
7. Worry about whether Real Men Eat Quiche.

Seriously, good leaders - because that’s really what an alpha is in a pack, male or female - don’t sit around polishing their apples about what great leaders they are.

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:42:03pm

re: #461 Nyet

Maybe an unrelated mention of “Blood”, but who knows.

[Embedded content]

As in “☥Ethiopian Bloodline☥”.

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:42:43pm

re: #463 Skip Intro

Not his worst photo. He usually looks much uglier.

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A Cranky One  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:43:13pm

re: #463 Skip Intro

ACKKKK! Bad lizard. Bad!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:44:09pm

re: #467 Nyet

Not his worst photo. He usually looks much uglier.

He looks creepy. Poor bastard seems to have rolled snake eyes in the genetic crap game.

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:45:55pm

OK, I imagine all the usual suspects are already running with this.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:46:49pm

re: #463 Skip Intro

Is that Bone Baroness Coulter of The House of Death? Or is that Mini-Drumpf’s wife?

If it was Coulter, I’d say she looks good there and I feel like it’s a damned shame she’s such a hate-hole with an empty vortex full of screams and wind where her decency should be.

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:46:50pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:48:20pm

re: #461 Nyet

Maybe an unrelated mention of “Blood”, but who knows.

[Embedded content]

GOTNWES EXCLUSVI

Violent negro was a Blood gang member (OF COURSE!) and he also stole and was black and therefore bad! Uncovered by our EXXLUCISVE REASEARCH which we totally did not do while drunk on Soco and coke at 2 AM

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Nyet  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:48:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2016 • 5:54:26pm

re: #416 Ming5000

People need to dial it down a tad. Spouting “hyperbolic” rhetoric is not OK and has consequences.
TPM

[Embedded content]

He still got fired from his pilot job with United, so there’s that.

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Jay C  Jul 17, 2016 • 6:00:53pm

re: #457 Skip Intro

One of the best, and I mean the really top people, bigly, really bigly speakers at the GOP convention this week. Look at that CV!

Lynne Patton is Vice President of The Eric Trump Foundation and Senior Assistant to Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, and Donald Trump, Jr.

So WTF does that title even mean? Is she the Trump kids’ nanny? Their minder? Their PR Flack? Their chief gofer?

Just shows up the difference in the two parties this year: The Democrats will be filling that speaking spot with the Vice President, or the First Lady, or a former President. The Republicans? One of the candidate’s employees….

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