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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:29:08pm

AC/DC should let the RNC use this as the new RNC theme:

AC/DC - Highway to Hell

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:29:15pm

And the majority of the world weeps.

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Lidane  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:31:13pm
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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:31:46pm

Abandon all hope, ye who enter here…

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:32:26pm

The GOP:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:32:28pm

Vermont delegate is babbling about Calvin Coolidge

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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:36:06pm

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

Vermont delegate is babbling about Calvin Coolidge

Ugly glasses, thick red beard, ill fitting “Make America Great Again” hat?

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Frankie Five Angels  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:36:09pm

Meanwhile, outside Quicken Loans Arena, let’s go to Rinsed Pubis…

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:36:18pm

And now my state just voted for Trump with fucking trees on their heads.

Oy, gevalt.

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:36:19pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:37:42pm

DEATH OF A NATION

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:38:23pm
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darthstar  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:38:34pm

This nomination process has all the energy of a loose bowel movement.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:38:34pm

It’s strange. Trump has been the presumptive nominee for months, so making it official at last isn’t really news. Longer term, the appearance of a GOP candidate like Trump was inevitable, given Republican fear-mongering and propaganda.

So why does it feel like a gate to the Ninth circle of Hell has just opened?

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Lidane  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:39:01pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:39:02pm

re: #1 lawhawk

AC/DC should let the RNC use this as the new RNC theme:

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This ain’t no technological breakdown, this is:

Chris Rea - The road to hell (long version CD) HD

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:39:03pm

He is not bringing your coal jobs back, stupid suckers.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:39:16pm

re: #14 EPR-radar

It’s strange. Trump has been the presumptive nominee for months, so making it official at last isn’t really news. Longer term, the appearance of a GOP candidate like Trump was inevitable, given Republicans fear-mongering and propaganda.

So why does it feel like a gate to the Ninth circle of Hell has just opened?

Emailzgate always had the chance to upend everything at the last moment.

//////////

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:39:20pm

re: #13 darthstar

This nomination process has all the energy of a loose bowel movement.

I am sooooo stealing that…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:39:23pm

re: #13 darthstar

This nomination process has all the energy of a loose bowel movement.

An explosive loose bowel movement?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:39:39pm

i believe article 12 of the constitution states “any candidate for the office of president of the united states must reveal what the fuck is up with his hair”

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Lidane  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:39:45pm

re: #14 EPR-radar

So why does it feel like a gate to the Ninth circle of Hell has just opened?

Because a major political party just officially made Idiocracy real.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:39:46pm
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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:40:14pm

re: #17 The Vicious Babushka

He is not bringing your coal jobs back, stupid suckers.

I’m not sure at what point I stop feeling pity for willful, aggressive counter-factualism, but we’re getting close.

If you believe in the Coal Fairy hard enough, surely the jobs will come back. The Donald will make it so!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:40:52pm

w-w-wha happened?

i thought never trump was going to make one last stand!

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Lidane  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:40:57pm
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darthstar  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:41:00pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

An explosive loose bowel movement?

No…just a lazy, dissatisfying one.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:42:24pm

re: #24 Testy Toad T

I’m not sure at what point I stop feeling pity for willful, aggressive counter-factualism, but we’re getting close.

If you believe in the Coal Fairy hard enough, surely the jobs will come back. The Donald will make it so!

I ran out of that kind of patience long ago. Anyone who is still voting for Republicans in contested elections at this time has no excuse for their bigotry and self-chosen feeble mindedness.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:42:45pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

An explosive loose bowel movement?

Dumb and Dumber - Toilet Scene

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:44:39pm

re: #26 Lidane

I like the “GoodGOPers” there. After all, we’ve all heard the stories about the good Germans.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:44:47pm

Never Trump was never going to be anything but Stop Hillary. Push met shove.

This is all over mental gymnastics to show that they will survive the post 2016 purge of the overt racists and bigots while the covert bigot brigade attempts to reassert themselves.

The GOP spent years peddling all the hate, fear, and outright lies, courtesy of their mouthpieces over at Fox Show Some Leg News and Talking out their ass Radio. Trump is all on you.

You can’t blame anyone but yourselves.

We warned you. Repeatedly. Even the President warned you guys how mindless this idiot is. But still you voted and then nominated this carbuncle on the bottom of an anal fissure

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Ming5000  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:45:30pm

re: #24 Testy Toad T

Reminds me of the self induced plight of Kentuckians.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:45:49pm

re: #21 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i believe article 12 of the constitution states “any candidate for the office of president of the united states must reveal what the fuck is up with his hair”

I just would like to see his tax returns.

Say, what is up with that? Does he realize he may have sloughed off on his own party but now that he is headed for the general election America is going to want to see those.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:46:25pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:46:33pm
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Archangelus  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:47:39pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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As one of those new to the Twitter-verse, how precisely does one report Chuckie properly (what category)?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:48:15pm
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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:48:53pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:49:23pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:49:45pm

re: #31 lawhawk

I will need to see the purge of overt racists and bigots from the GOP after the 2016 election before I believe in it.

In fact, I think the exact opposite will happen, i.e. the party will get even more openly racist and bigoted than it presently is. This is based on the assumption that Trump will not lose by enough of a margin to really force the GOP to see the problem it has with bigotry in the ranks.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:50:31pm

Alaska says they miscounted their votes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:50:41pm
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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:51:56pm

While they figure this out, they are chanting “we want Trump”. You got him, idiots. Now the band plays…

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:52:08pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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Nonsense!

They dominate state governments and are within three percentage points in the Presidential race. Democrats and liberals need to stop trying to insult, make fun of, or be cute about the Republicans and accept that they’ve been kicking our asses for the last six years.

We need to get fucking serious! We need to stop wasting time on Bernie Sanders-type nutjobs! We need to treat these guys as the mortal threat to the Republic that they are- and to recognize that it’s going to take long, hard work to defeat them, state by state, county by county, town by town. And we need to make sure that moderates are driving the bus, to win over the voters who will never sign up for a left-wing revolution but which we need for 50%+1.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:52:11pm

re: #40 EPR-radar

I will need to see the purge of overt racists and bigots from the GOP after the 2016 election before I believe in it.

In fact, I think the exact opposite will happen, i.e. the party will get even more openly racist and bigoted than it presently is. This is based on the assumption that Trump will not lose by enough of a margin to really force the GOP to see the problem it has with bigotry in the ranks.

The thing is, there’s nowhere for the overt racists and bigots to go. They’re not just going to shrug and say “oh, oh well, I guess we’d better let the brown people have the country now”. There is no Democratic Nixon who will welcome them with open arms.

I don’t see how any recovery can happen but with the dying off of a few generations. Best-case, maybe we see a fracture of the Democratic party as the GOP dies on the vine.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:52:30pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

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Is that true? There were some pretty wacky candidates and personalities in the 50’s.

It seems fitting to illustrate Dumbageddon with images from the Doré Bible.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:52:58pm

re: #41 Jenner7

Alaska says they miscounted their votes.

Double digits is hard.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:53:02pm

a trump presidency:

- the wall is never finished
- the clusterfuck of a half assed attempt to deport 11 million essential workers only utterly disrupts several vital industries just like it did in alabama
- saudi arabia’s friends in the gop block the muslim ban, half hearted immigration security measures passed and hailed as Great Success
- trump increases obama’s bombing of isis somewhat after a speech resembling the threats of a motorcycle gang leader
- trump signs ryan’s tax bill giving millionaires big breaks
- trump signs ryan’s bill destroying ss and medicare
- trump submits high tariff bill which is killed in congress
- economy slowly grinds to a halt
- no new factory jobs, no muslim ban, no wall, mexicans still fastest growing ethnic group, recession and terrorism - trump voters denounce him as never a real conservative and talk about how he “went to washington and became corrupted by the establishment”

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:53:24pm

What happened with Utah? I was cooking dinner.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:53:49pm

re: #44 Brian J.

Nonsense!

They dominate state governments and are within three percentage points in the Presidential race. Democrats and liberals need to stop trying to insult, make fun of, or be cute about the Republicans and accept that they’ve been kicking our asses for the last six years.

I would encourage you to perhaps calm down a notch. The Republicans have successfully achieved nothing on a national level, because nothing is all they can agree upon and all they can set their minds to. That’s frustrating, and it’s damaging for the country, but it’s all they can manage to do.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:54:00pm

ANOTHER RICK ROLL

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TedStriker  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:54:00pm

re: #40 EPR-radar

I will need to see the purge of overt racists and bigots from the GOP after the 2016 election before I believe in it.

In fact, I think the exact opposite will happen, i.e. the party will get even more openly racist and bigoted than it presently is. This is based on the assumption that Trump will not lose by enough of a margin to really force the GOP to see the problem it has with bigotry in the ranks.

Thing is, the GOP can’t completely disavow the racists and the bigots, because that would be disavowing over forty years that the GOP spent building up to this, including the Southern Strategy and Saint Ronald of Reagan.

No, the GOP is well and truly fucked.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:54:06pm

re: #41 Jenner7

Alaska says they miscounted their votes.

Tell it to Florida

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:54:09pm

re: #38 Jenner7

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Trump going to address the convention live via satellite at 9 PM from Trump Tower in NYC, per CNN.

i guess that same tech doesnt reach as far as Alaska

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:54:14pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

Double digits is hard.

And those gozintas are a bitch.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:54:55pm

Night Lizards.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:55:18pm

re: #50 Testy Toad T

I would encourage you to perhaps calm down a notch. The Republicans have successfully achieved nothing on a national level, because nothing is all they can agree upon and all they can set their minds to. That’s frustrating, and it’s damaging for the country, but it’s all they can manage to do.

Quick quiz: which party has its largest Congressional majority since 1928, and also control of the Senate?

You’re taking these guys far too lightly. Democrats need to start taking these guys seriously. No more attempts to be Oscar Wilde, just hit them, hit them, hit them!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:55:19pm

re: #44 Brian J.

There’s just something about the zeal of a convert that I can’t quite put my finger on…

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:56:01pm

re: #38 Jenner7

Trump isn’t at his own convention?

Good god. What a joke.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:56:02pm

re: #57 Brian J.

Quick quiz: which party has its largest Congressional majority since 1928, and also control of the Senate?

You’re taking these guys far too lightly. Democrats need to start taking these guys seriously. No more attempts to be Oscar Wilder, just hit them, hit them, hit them!

Explain how this is any more meaningful than “we have to declare war on ISIS”.

Just gotta, like, hit ‘em harder! Gotta be REAL serious now!

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:56:16pm

Trump will again pollute the airwaves with yet another appearance before the RNC - this time by videophoning it in.

It’ll be yuge.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:56:28pm

re: #60 Testy Toad T

Explain how this is any more meaningful than “we have to declare war on ISIS”.

Just gotta, like, hit ‘em harder! Gotta be REAL serious now!

We’re being too sarcastic on the Internets, not freaking out enough, I guess.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:57:08pm

re: #59 MsJ

Trump isn’t at his own convention?

Good god. What a joke.

!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:57:09pm

re: #61 lawhawk

Trump will again pollute the airwaves with yet another appearance before the RNC - this time by videophoning it in.

It’ll be yuge.

Hope it works as well as videocons have been working for me.

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Ming5000  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:58:07pm

I thought they were supposed to work this stuff out before prime time.

Another debacle tonight.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:58:08pm

Photo Shoot: Failed Mexico Wall Project Bankrupted Nation, Now Decaying Hulk

chinese companies now managing american government vow to find profitable use

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:58:10pm

re: #46 Pawn of the Oppressor

Is that true? There were some pretty wacky candidates and personalities in the 50’s.

It seems fitting to illustrate Dumbageddon with images from the Doré Bible.

Among the major-party winners, I think it’s true. The 50s were all Ike and Adlai Stevenson.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:58:17pm

re: #57 Brian J.

Quick quiz: which party has its largest Congressional majority since 1928, and also control of the Senate?

You’re taking these guys far too lightly. Democrats need to start taking these guys seriously. No more attempts to be Oscar Wilder, just hit them, hit them, hit them!

Blog commenters calling the GOP a joke is not the same as saying that no effort is needed to defeat them.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:58:37pm

re: #62 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We’re being too sarcastic on the Internets, not freaking out enough, I guess.

If there’s any room left in your soul for humor, you’re not giving it your all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:59:27pm

Obama and Romney were 1 point apart on Day 2 of the Republican primary in 2012.

Hillary leads by 2.7

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:59:31pm

re: #62 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We’re being too sarcastic on the Internets, not freaking out enough, I guess.

What else do you expect of a Politics ‘N’ Snark blog?

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 4:59:33pm

re: #61 lawhawk

Trump will again pollute the airwaves with yet another appearance before the RNC - this time by videophoning it in.

It’ll be yuge.

He can’t stand not to be in the spotlight. I’m guessing this appearance is already recorded so he can call Fox and comment on himself while it’s running at the convention.

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:00:03pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There’s just something about the zeal of a convert that I can’t quite put my finger on…

They know the enemy better, there’s that.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:00:10pm

re: #48 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

a trump presidency:

- the wall is never finished
- the clusterfuck of a half assed attempt to deport 11 million essential workers only utterly disrupts several vital industries just like it did in alabama
- saudi arabia’s friends in the gop block the muslim ban, half hearted immigration security measures passed and hailed as Great Success
- trump increases obama’s bombing of isis somewhat after a speech resembling the threats of a motorcycle gang leader
- trump signs ryan’s tax bill giving millionaires big breaks
- trump signs ryan’s bill destroying ss and medicare
- trump submits high tariff bill which is killed in congress
- economy slowly grinds to a halt
- no new factory jobs, no muslim ban, no wall, mexicans still fastest growing ethnic group, recession and terrorism - trump voters denounce him as never a real conservative and talk about how he “went to washington and became corrupted by the establishment”

On a positive note, no one will ever want to privatize again. Since all contractors will likely go out of business for not being paid.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:00:32pm

re: #69 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If there’s any room left in your soul for humor, you’re not giving it your all.

If I actually exposed myself to the thinking of undecided voters who need to be given reasons to vote for Clinton vs. Trump, I’d lose what little faith I have in humanity.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:00:44pm

re: #41 Jenner7

Too many votes, not enough fingers?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:00:47pm

re: #72 Skip Intro

He can’t stand not to be in the spotlight. I’m guessing this appearance is already recorded so he can call Fox and comment on himself while it’s running at the convention.

I thought it was traditional for the nominee to stay off the podium until the night of the acceptance speech.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:00:55pm

re: #60 Testy Toad T

Explain how this is any more meaningful than “we have to declare war on ISIS”.

Just gotta, like, hit ‘em harder! Gotta be REAL serious now!

It means that too many people on the left and center-left use words like “destroys” and “annihilates” to describe any encounter with someone on the right. Most of those programs do Democrats more harm than good, with their smugness and quips that are designed to alienate voters in the middle. Instead, the party needs to take local races and local attitudes seriously, and not make enemies profligately with extreme promises like “free college” and “shut down Wall Street.”

I don’t like the noises I’m hearing about how you’re assuming Trump will fail, or how every comment about Hillary is larded with hems, haws, and qualifications. She’s our candidate, and criticizing her now serves Trump and no one else.

(And as for ISIS, I think it’d be a good idea to return to daily Pentagon briefings, such as during Gulf War I or Vietnam, to make sure that people have near-real-time knowledge of exactly how much ordnance has been dropped on ISIS and, to the extent possible, the number of ISIS soldiers killed. I’m aware of the risks of body count math, but with no ground troops, that risk should be reduced.)

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lockjawcanbefun  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:01:04pm

re: #76 Romantic Heretic

I have one finger they can borrow.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:01:51pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

It is. But the uncouth one has a tendency to break the rules.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:02:35pm

re: #62 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We’re being too sarcastic on the Internets, not freaking out enough, I guess.

And in a more serious vein, I’m sorry, I just can’t. Like I seriously can’t. Yes. This is serious shit. That Donald Trump has been nominated is incredible and not in a good way. That Republicans control more than their share of the state governments and the House is not good. Some of that can be directly traced to bad turnout for the Dems in 2010. It’s a pretty big obstacle to overcome at the moment, but not impossible.

But I can’t be in a constant state of outrage and panic and fear and worry over this. It’s not healthy for me. I have to also laugh and post stupid shit and cook and exercise and in general live my life instead of thinking the damn sky is falling every time another poll hits. Because if I don’t, then I turn into a fearful wreck manipulated by my emotions the same way the majority of the GOP voters are and quite frankly, I think that’s stupid. Not to mention exhausting.

Also I find being an absolutist at all times a great way of shutting down conversation and in general making people less likely to listen to you, so there’s that too.

Anyway, the corn and bean salad that’s currently marinating on the countertop has a really tasty dressing mix from the little bit I tried so I’m hopeful it’s going to be fantastic for dinner.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:02:38pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

I thought it was traditional for the nominee to stay off the podium until the night of the acceptance speech.

Yes, but I think others may have videoed in after nomination?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:03:15pm

We can thank the Alt-Right for not allowing Baby Whiplash aboard the Trump Train

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:03:20pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

I thought it was traditional for the nominee to stay off the podium until the night of the acceptance speech.

We’re talking Trump here. He will never give up a photo op.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:03:56pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

I thought it was traditional for the nominee to stay off the podium until the night of the acceptance speech.

Trump is a malignancy that can only thrive with constant media exposure.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:04:13pm

re: #78 Brian J.

Daily Pentagon briefings on ISIS is a bad idea IMO. That would be a toxic mess of propaganda, war pornography and treating anti-terror efforts as war.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:04:49pm

re: #81 klys (maker of Silmarils)

One can only produce so much adrenaline at a time, after all.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:05:06pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

Hey Benji Baratheon, you helped build this.

“Let’s build a career on hate, what could possibly go wrong?”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:05:10pm

re: #78 Brian J.

It means that too many people on the left and center-left use words like “destroys” and “annihilates” to describe any encounter with someone on the right. Most of those programs do Democrats more harm than good, with their smugness and quips that are designed to alienate voters in the middle. Instead, the party needs to take local races and local attitudes seriously, and not make enemies profligately with extreme promises like “free college” and “shut down Wall Street.”

I don’t like the noises I’m hearing about how you’re assuming Trump will fail, or how every comment about Hillary is larded with hems, haws, and qualifications. She’s our candidate, and criticizing her now serves Trump and no one else.

(And as for ISIS, I think it’d be a good idea to return to daily Pentagon briefings, such as during Gulf War I or Vietnam, to make sure that people have near-real-time knowledge of exactly how much ordnance has been dropped on ISIS and, to the extent possible, the number of ISIS soldiers killed. I’m aware of the risks of body count math, but with no ground troops, that risk should be reduced.)

You put too many propositions in a single comment to get a whole-hearted upding. I’d give this one a .75.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:05:16pm

re: #87 Blind Frog Belly White

One can only produce so much adrenaline at a time, after all.

I checked, the damn spider cleaned out my supply until at least next Thursday.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:05:22pm

re: #69 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If there’s any room left in your soul for humor, you’re not giving it your all.

I know we don’t agree on this, but humor doesn’t accomplish anything by itself. People laughed at every tyrant in history, but that laughter never disturbed their sleep.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:05:45pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

Another moron exposes himself. “Decimate” is merely killing one in 10. Hitler did much worse than that in Europe.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:05:50pm

Saw earlier today that the first presidential debate will be held at Hofstra University on Long Island.

In the backyard of both Trump and Clinton.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:06:26pm

re: #91 Brian J.

I know we don’t agree on this, but humor doesn’t accomplish anything by itself. People laughed at every tyrant in history, but that laughter never disturbed their sleep.

If you really think humor means people aren’t caring, this might not end up being the best fit after all.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:06:55pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

I thought it was traditional for the nominee to stay off the podium until the night of the acceptance speech.

Pfft.

It is time for New Traditions. Great Traditions. The Best…Trump Traditions.

And now you can kiss the ring.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:07:13pm

re: #86 EPR-radar

Daily Pentagon briefings on ISIS is a bad idea IMO. That would be a toxic mess of propaganda, war pornography and treating anti-terror efforts as war.

In the absence of timely information, we get the toxic brew that’s now being poured out in Cleveland where people simply don’t know what operations are underway against ISIS. I think the best way to avoid that is with as much information as we can muster, so that people know exactly what our military is doing and why we’re doing it.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:07:36pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:07:47pm

re: #95 ObserverArt

I would like to clean it before I kiss it. /

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:07:49pm

re: #91 Brian J.

I know we don’t agree on this, but humor doesn’t accomplish anything by itself. People laughed at every tyrant in history, but that laughter never disturbed their sleep.

Who said that humor is the only game in town? You’ll reach some people with the humor and snark, and other people with policy wonkery. So do both.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:07:51pm

Preview of McConnell’s pitch tonight.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is blaming what he calls are “Clinton Democrats” for a Senate standoff that’s blocked President Barack Obama’s request for money to fight the Zika virus.

Congress is now on a seven-week recess, and left Washington without acting on the Zika money. Democrats objected to a GOP proposal that would block Planned Parenthood clinics in Puerto Rico from getting money to fight the virus.

McConnell is blaming the impasses on Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

sacbee.com

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:07:55pm

re: #38 Jenner7

Trump going to address the convention live via satellite at 9 PM from Trump Tower in NYC, per CNN.

He really is going to appear every night, isn’t he?

Attention junkie.

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Ming5000  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:07:57pm

They are invoking the 16F rule and the reallocating. And stuff.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:08:40pm

Did Nicolle Wallace just say that the Trump sons are warm and affectionate and great speakers?? Shoot me now.

I love that the shitstorm is holding up the evening’s events.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:08:58pm

re: #96 Brian J.

In the absence of timely information, we get the toxic brew that’s now being poured out in Cleveland where people simply don’t know what operations are underway against ISIS. I think the best way to avoid that is with as much information as we can muster, so that people know exactly what our military is doing and why we’re doing it.

I’m sorry to be so blunt, but don’t tell me a single Republican in this country gives a flying fuck about facts, or that they would tone down their rhetoric in the face of additional charts and plots and details.

We are not in this quagmire for want of facts. We’re in it because people would prefer to believe contrary to them.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:09:02pm

re: #92 EPR-radar

Another moron exposes himself. “Decimate” is merely killing one in 10. Hitler did much worse than that in Europe.

Also, too…decimation was an official military punishment inflicted on your own troops for malfeasance, not something you do to an enemy.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:09:17pm

re: #96 Brian J.

In the absence of timely information, we get the toxic brew that’s now being poured out in Cleveland where people simply don’t know what operations are underway against ISIS. I think the best way to avoid that is with as much information as we can muster, so that people know exactly what our military is doing and why we’re doing it.

You actually think facts matter to Republicans?

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Ming5000  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:09:25pm

re: #98 PhillyPretzel

I would like to clean it before I kiss it. /

That’s what sh- never mind

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:09:36pm

Donald Day Trump? Why can’t they get his middle name right? lol

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:09:54pm

Poor Jeb, three votes.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:09:59pm

re: #104 Testy Toad T

I’m sorry to be so blunt, but don’t tell me a single Republican in this country gives a flying fuck about facts, or would tone down their rhetoric in the face of additional charts and plots and details.

We are not in this quagmire for want of facts. We’re in it because people would prefer to believe contrary to them.

I recognize that, but I’d at least like to make that as hard as possible. The ISIS kill total should be at least as well known as the Iraq Body Count was back in the day.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:10:27pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:10:56pm

bitter tears of conservative true believers mourning the nomination of the trump entity:

mediamatters.org

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:10:57pm

Mitch McConnell comes out to some boos.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:11:38pm

re: #110 Brian J.

I recognize that, but I’d at least like to make that as hard as possible. The ISIS kill total should be at least as well known as the Iraq Body Count was back in the day.

God no. “Body Count” is a disgusting example of war pornography. Non-Republicans can’t effectively oppose Republicans by becoming them.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:11:54pm

My only hope tonight is trump gets to the podium & goes off about Melania.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:12:00pm

re: #110 Brian J.

I recognize that, but I’d at least like to make that as hard as possible. The ISIS kill total should be at least as well known as the Iraq Body Count was back in the day.

Our daily political and social discourse does not need to be steeped in how many people we killed today, or how many people the other guy killed today. I’m sorry, but this is sick thinking.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:12:42pm

re: #96 Brian J.

In the absence of timely information, we get the toxic brew that’s now being poured out in Cleveland where people simply don’t know what operations are underway against ISIS. I think the best way to avoid that is with as much information as we can muster, so that people know exactly what our military is doing and why we’re doing it.

Presence, absence - what would it matter. These are the people who said, with no obvious irony, that they didn’t want to vote for an AUMF against ISIS that the President requested, because they weren’t sure he’d use it, even though he’d already been bombing them for months.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:12:45pm

re: #61 lawhawk

Trump will again pollute the airwaves with yet another appearance before the RNC - this time by videophoning it in.

It’ll be yuge.

OK, correction. He’ll go OFF from a Saddam chair. Prob better.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:12:53pm

re: #115 Stanley Sea

My only hope tonight is trump gets to the podium & goes off about Melania.

I have higher hopes for Trump. Dropping his trousers and/or proposing a “final solution” before the end of the convention.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:13:55pm

re: #116 Testy Toad T

Our daily political and social discourse does not need to be steeped in how many people we killed today, or how many people the other guy killed today. I’m sorry, but this is sick thinking.

You really think any other way is possible? Americans want ISIS dead, and they need to know how much progress we’ve made on a regular basis. If you think our troops shouldn’t be attacking ISIS at all, you can argue for that position, but I don’t think it will be effective.

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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:14:13pm

You left me out buddy I’m from Indiana and I call Pence an asshole.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:14:16pm

re: #78 Brian J.

It means that too many people on the left and center-left use words like “destroys” and “annihilates” to describe any encounter with someone on the right. Most of those programs do Democrats more harm than good, with their smugness and quips that are designed to alienate voters in the middle.

Designed to alienate voters in the middle you say? I sure would like to know where you can make a very wide statement like that? That makes some of the comments malicious on purpose. Really? Most want the voters in the middle.

Is what you are saying designed to put down or alienate a large part of the posters here? You may just be doing what you don’t like yourself.

Take a deep breath. Think it through. Just my opinion.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:14:18pm

re: #114 EPR-radar

God no. “Body Count” is a disgusting example of war pornography. Non-Republicans can’t effectively oppose Republicans by becoming them.

Army rejected it, not only because it is a short path to corrupt metrics, but because it measures the wrong thing. It’s as useless as yards of frontal advance in WWI.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:14:47pm

OK, Chuck Todd equivocating. I’m off to watch Chopped. Fuck the Republicans and the Trumps.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:14:52pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

We can thank the Alt-Right for not allowing Baby Whiplash aboard the Trump Train

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Ben seems conflicted.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:16:00pm

re: #120 Brian J.

You really think any other way is possible? Americans want ISIS dead, and they need to know how much progress we’ve made on a regular basis. If you think our troops shouldn’t be attacking ISIS at all, you can argue for that position, but I don’t think it will be effective.

I don’t think the way to win a war of minds is to kill as many of the other guy’s minds as possible, and glorifying that, and reveling in it, is grotesque.

Might as well just voice support for glassing the place if you want to take that tack, at least it’s intellectually honest.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:16:14pm

re: #125 Skip Intro

Ben seems conflicted.

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Accidental Tsurist.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:16:21pm

re: #122 ObserverArt

Designed to alienate voters in the middle you say? I sure would like to know where you can make a very wide statement like that? That makes some of the comments malicious on purpose. Really? Most want the voters in the middle.

Is what you are saying designed to put down or alienate a large part of the posters here? You may just be doing what you don’t like yourself.

Take a deep breath. Think it through. Just my opinion.

Eh, it’s pretty clear at this point that we all know nothing about reaching out to the moderate voters here at this hardcore radical leftist stronghold.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:16:51pm

re: #122 ObserverArt

Designed to alienate voters in the middle you say? I sure would like to know where you can make a very wide statement like that? That makes some of the comments malicious on purpose. Really? Most want the voters in the middle.

Is what you are saying designed to put down or alienate a large part of the posters here? You may just be doing what you don’t like yourself.

Take a deep breath. Think it through. Just my opinion.

I’m just trying to point out that we need to differentiate between when we’re doing something effective and when we just think we are. The Daily Show? Contributed nothing to the cause of supporting Democrats or liberals. Laughing at Trump and Pence going to Chili’s? Contributed less than nothing, because millions of people eat at such places every week. Alienating voters by making fun of things they do isn’t a good idea. We need to talk to them, listen to them, change minds.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:17:57pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

You put too many propositions in a single comment to get a whole-hearted upding. I’d give this one a .75.

We (Democrats, liberals and progressives) design programs to alienate the middle ground???

Maybe I am reading this wrong. I’m going to sit on the sidelines a bit. I am not getting it.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:18:05pm

re: #129 Brian J.

I’m just trying to point out that we need to differentiate between when we’re doing something effective and when we just think we are. The Daily Show? Contributed nothing to the cause of supporting Democrats or liberals.

Citation needed, unless you want to argue by fiat.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:18:54pm

re: #126 Testy Toad T

I don’t think the way to win a war of minds is to kill as many of the other guy’s minds as possible, and glorifying that, and reveling in it, is grotesque.

Might as well just voice support for glassing the place if you want to take that tack, at least it’s intellectually honest.

ISIS are fanatics, and you defeat them not by winning hearts and minds but by burying them. I think we can win against ISIS without using WMDs, but democratic societies lose interest and support for war quickly when it’s not obvious that they’re making progress. We need to make our progress more widely known.

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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:18:55pm

re: #125 Skip Intro

Ben seems conflicted.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:18:59pm

re: #130 ObserverArt

Maybe I am reading this wrong. I’m going to sit on the sidelines a bit. I am not getting it.

I’m not feeling it, either.

Later, lizards. There’s dinner to cook and beer to drink on the porch.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:19:02pm

re: #116 Testy Toad T

Our daily political and social discourse does not need to be steeped in how many people we killed today, or how many people the other guy killed today. I’m sorry, but this is sick thinking.

Not only that, but the real danger to civilians in America from ISIS is barely related to military actions against ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Attacks credited to ISIS are being carried out by people who’ve had little or no contact with ISIS. Indeed, success on the ground in Syria and Iraq may INCREASE the probability of attacks in the US. I’d bet you that if/when we finally mop up the last ISIS fighters on the ground that they’ll morph into a completely decentralized, web based, loose affiliation.

We did daily updates from the Pentagon during Vietnam, and they were bullshit, designed to convince us that we were winning and NVN and the Vietcong were on the run. How’d THAT work out?

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:19:06pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:19:26pm

Congratulations to the Republican Party because they fully opened up the Pete Wilson Portal to Extermination.

What Pete Wilson did to California Republicans now Donald Trump will do to Republicans nationwide. Right now, Gary Johnson is taking a very hard look at what’s going on and he and Weld now have a shot of totally breaking the Republican Party apart and picking up the Wall Street and Libertarian factions.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:19:28pm

Looking for Tebow’s helmet cont.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:20:03pm

re: #129 Brian J.

I’m just trying to point out that we need to differentiate between when we’re doing something effective and when we just think we are. The Daily Show? Contributed nothing to the cause of supporting Democrats or liberals. Laughing at Trump and Pence going to Chili’s? Contributed less than nothing, because millions of people eat at such places every week. Alienating voters by making fun of things they do isn’t a good idea. We need to talk to them, listen to them, change minds.

I’ll need some evidence for the assertion that something like the Daily Show is completely useless for winning hearts and minds. There was a solid foundation of fact under much of that humor.

I’m clueless about how to actually talk to someone who is undecided between Trump and Clinton. However, a self-imposed paralysis before that analysis is done is certain to be a bad idea.

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Ming5000  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:20:19pm

I am a little disappoint. I am worried Dana White will not speak before my bedtime.
Big fan.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:20:22pm

re: #125 Skip Intro

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:20:41pm

I see we have a Concern Troll.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:20:47pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:20:57pm

re: #129 Brian J.

Speaking for myself, I wasn’t laughing at Pence for eating at Chili’s. I was laughing at Pence because his running mate thought so little of him and his family that he couldn’t even have them eat with him at his hotel.

People grovel before Trump and he treats them like shit. People like Pence and Chris Christie. Yet they still think if they just grovel some more he might not treat them like hired help.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:21:16pm

re: #130 ObserverArt

We (Democrats, liberals and progressives) design programs to alienate the middle ground???

Maybe I am reading this wrong. I’m going to sit on the sidelines a bit. I am not getting it.

As I said, a comment that groups too many ideas is difficult to support.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:22:03pm

re: #78 Brian J.

It means that too many people on the left and center-left use words like “destroys” and “annihilates” to describe any encounter with someone on the right. Most of those programs do Democrats more harm than good, with their smugness and quips that are designed to alienate voters in the middle. Instead, the party needs to take local races and local attitudes seriously, and not make enemies profligately with extreme promises like “free college” and “shut down Wall Street.”

I don’t like the noises I’m hearing about how you’re assuming Trump will fail, or how every comment about Hillary is larded with hems, haws, and qualifications. She’s our candidate, and criticizing her now serves Trump and no one else.

(And as for ISIS, I think it’d be a good idea to return to daily Pentagon briefings, such as during Gulf War I or Vietnam, to make sure that people have near-real-time knowledge of exactly how much ordnance has been dropped on ISIS and, to the extent possible, the number of ISIS soldiers killed. I’m aware of the risks of body count math, but with no ground troops, that risk should be reduced.)

Okay, okay…

We understand, but you have to also understand that the Democratic party is fundamentally different from how the GOP has always operated until now. The Democrats are like the proverbially unherdable cats: grassroots oriented, attention paid in a thousand different directions and not real good at coming to amicable agreement.

The GOP has been a very top-down management affair. The grassroots salute and take their orders and that’s that. That changed this time for them, but still have our basic nature in the Democratic Party. You work with what you have, and that means engagement with your local party grassroots.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:22:26pm
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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:23:11pm

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

Not only that, but the real danger to civilians in America from ISIS is barely related to military actions against ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Attacks credited to ISIS are being carried out by people who’ve had little or no contact with ISIS. Indeed, success on the ground in Syria and Iraq may INCREASE the probability of attacks in the US. I’d bet you that if/when we finally mop up the last ISIS fighters on the ground that they’ll morph into a completely decentralized, web based, loose affiliation.

We did daily updates from the Pentagon during Vietnam, and they were bullshit, designed to convince us that we were winning and NVN and the Vietcong were on the run. How’d THAT work out?

Some of the factors that led to Body Count Math back then aren’t present today; we don’t have troops in country except for maybe some Special Ops, and with drone and satellite reconnaissance, we can more easily reduce (or hopefully eliminate) double-counting. I know the problem can’t be eliminated entirely, but we’ve got the lessons of MACV to learn from.

As for the risk of terrorism when we mop up ISIS, all the more reason to finish them as quickly as possible. If we can ship more bombers and drones to the fight, we ought to do it. If our allies (and even the Russians) want more logistical aid for their efforts, we should provide it if at all possible. Once they’re gone, it gets a lot harder to pledge allegiance to ISIS when there is no ISIS.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:24:09pm

Right after the official announcement, lightning, followed by a wall-shaking clap of thunder. Seemed an appropriate response from mother nature.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:24:45pm

re: #124 BeachDem

OK, Chuck Todd equivocating. I’m off to watch Chopped. Fuck the Republicans and the Trumps.

Do you find yourself Googling some of the ingredients? I do.

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LastYearsMan  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:24:45pm

Decimate has chiefly been used in English to mean “destroy a large number of” for centuries. Also, “tithing”. Oxford, Merriam Webster, etc…

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Ming5000  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:24:51pm

Anyone ever wonder what would have happened if Trump had run for the Democratic nomination and ditched the racist stuff, but played up the his other Make America Great shtick?

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:25:49pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:25:52pm

re: #133 Tigger2

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Let’s put Ben’s tweets in chronological order.

So Ben still wants to vote for Trump if only the racists and anti-semites that make up the Trump base would stop wanting him dead. That’s just plain nuts.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:26:42pm

re: #152 Ming5000

Anyone ever wonder what would have happened if Trump had run for the Democratic nomination and ditched the racist stuff, but played up the his other Make America Great shtick?

He did. He went by the pseudonym Bernard Sanders. And his campaign is crippling Hillary’s campaign even after it’s over, because of his false claims of corruption, howls to release the transcripts, and false promises which neither he nor any other Democrat could deliver.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:26:45pm

re: #148 Brian J.

Some of the factors that led to Body Count Math back then aren’t present today; we don’t have troops in country except for maybe some Special Ops, and with drone and satellite reconnaissance, we can more easily reduce (or hopefully eliminate) double-counting. I know the problem can’t be eliminated entirely, but we’ve got the lessons of MACV to learn from.

As for the risk of terrorism when we mop up ISIS, all the more reason to finish them as quickly as possible. If we can ship more bombers and drones to the fight, we ought to do it. If our allies (and even the Russians) want more logistical aid for their efforts, we should provide it if at all possible. Once they’re gone, it gets a lot harder to pledge allegiance to ISIS when there is no ISIS.

My issue with the “Body Count” isn’t the picayune issue of double counting.

There is something monstrous about making murder the central focus of reporting on a military engagement. ISIS has made the mistake of trying to seize and control territory. So progress against ISIS isn’t deaths, it is reduction and hopefully elimination of their control of territory.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:26:52pm

re: #149 BeachDem

Right after the official announcement, lightning, followed by a wall-shaking clap of thunder. Seemed an appropriate response from mother nature.

Chiffon Margarine - “It’s Not Nice To Fool Mother Nature!” (Commercial, 1977)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:26:55pm

re: #148 Brian J.

Some of the factors that led to Body Count Math back then aren’t present today; we don’t have troops in country except for maybe some Special Ops, and with drone and satellite reconnaissance, we can more easily reduce (or hopefully eliminate) double-counting. I know the problem can’t be eliminated entirely, but we’ve got the lessons of MACV to learn from.

As for the risk of terrorism when we mop up ISIS, all the more reason to finish them as quickly as possible. If we can ship more bombers and drones to the fight, we ought to do it. If our allies (and even the Russians) want more logistical aid for their efforts, we should provide it if at all possible. Once they’re gone, it gets a lot harder to pledge allegiance to ISIS when there is no ISIS.

We aren’t lacking for drones and attack A/C. We’re lacking validated targets, unless we go back to destroying villages in order to save them.

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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:27:16pm

Now comes all the lying speakers.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:27:26pm

re: #153 gocart mozart

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I swear her portraits of Trump look like the Pink Floyd animation art from The Wall.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:28:12pm

Wow this woman with a voice even more annoying than Donald J. Trump his very self, is projecting like an IMAX in Outer Space.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:28:49pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

My issue with the “Body Count” isn’t the picayune issue of double counting.

There is something monstrous about making murder the central focus of reporting on a military engagement. ISIS has made the mistake of trying to seize and control territory. So progress against ISIS isn’t deaths, it is reduction and hopefully elmination of their control of territory.

And that territorial reduction would be a major emphasis of said briefings. Correcting Body Count Math is necessary to deliver an accurate impression of progress made; so is assessing the strength of the opposing force, and that means estimating the number of enemy soldiers killed and remaining enemy strength.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:28:52pm

re: #155 Brian J.

He did. He went by the pseudonym Bernard Sanders. And his campaign is crippling Hillary’s campaign even after it’s over, because of his false claims of corruption, howls to release the transcripts, and false promises which neither he nor any other Democrat could deliver.

As I recall, polling results as reported by others here are showing 80% of Sanders voters plan to vote for Clinton in November. I expect the Democratic convention to improve that a bit.

This doesn’t look like a crippled campaign to me.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:28:56pm

BILL CLINTON SECKUALLY ABUSED WIMMENS

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jonhendry  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:29:29pm

re: #91 Brian J.

I know we don’t agree on this, but humor doesn’t accomplish anything by itself. People laughed at every tyrant in history, but that laughter never disturbed their sleep.

The main thing that is needed is to get people out to vote this year, and just as important, get them out to vote in 2018.

The lack of Democratic interest in off-year elections is why the Republicans do so much better.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:29:35pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:29:44pm

re: #148 Brian J.

Some of the factors that led to Body Count Math back then aren’t present today; we don’t have troops in country except for maybe some Special Ops, and with drone and satellite reconnaissance, we can more easily reduce (or hopefully eliminate) double-counting. I know the problem can’t be eliminated entirely, but we’ve got the lessons of MACV to learn from.

As for the risk of terrorism when we mop up ISIS, all the more reason to finish them as quickly as possible. If we can ship more bombers and drones to the fight, we ought to do it. If our allies (and even the Russians) want more logistical aid for their efforts, we should provide it if at all possible. Once they’re gone, it gets a lot harder to pledge allegiance to ISIS when there is no ISIS.

You are thinking about this in very conventional ways that remind me of how the Bush Administration could not conceive of a non-state actor carrying out attacks like 9/11. Here, you seem to think that ISIS needs to hold physical ground to exist. They don’t.

Here’s an analogy - when Terminator came our in 1985, we all thought in terms of mainframe computers which had to physically BE somewhere, which had to be BIG, and therefore vulnerable.

Terminator 3, whatever its vices or virtues as a film, turned that on its head. Skynet became a web-based, decentralized AI that was everywhere and thus nowhere.

THAT’S what we’re facing now. It’s comforting, but terribly simplistic, to think we can ‘wipe out ISIS’ with boots on the ground, or more bombs, or whatever. I suspect that for some time we’ll have to deal with homegrown stochastic terrorism, like Orlando or Nice.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:29:57pm
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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:30:23pm

Lady you’re going to get your wish kind of but you will see a Lady President in NOV.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:31:12pm

re: #150 MsJ

Do you find yourself Googling some of the ingredients? I do.

I don’t because I’m lazy—never know what half of them are. Kids are on now, and I’m paying close attention because I’m watching my great-nieces next week and they like to cook, so I might devise some kind of chopped competition for them (or not!)

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:31:45pm

Lets see if Burt Reynolds comes out and discusses Trumps impact on the USFL after Dana White from UFC finishes.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:31:47pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

UpChuck did retweet you.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:32:05pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

I am a man

Delegate from the Island of Dr. Moreau.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:32:42pm
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jonhendry  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:32:55pm

re: #151 LastYearsMan

Decimate has chiefly been used in English to mean “destroy a large number of” for centuries. Also, “tithing”. Oxford, Merriam Webster, etc…

10% *is* a lot of something, especially people. (Decimating the US population would remove 30 million people.) But we’ve gotten so much more efficient at killing that it is no longer that impressive.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:33:03pm

Steroided up guy says Trump supported his Steroided Up Guys Fighting Each Other business.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:33:24pm

France is only about 6% Muslim, so they were over-represented by 5.5 times.

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Ming5000  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:33:26pm

Wow, Dana is really bringing it home for Donald.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:33:48pm

re: #170 BeachDem

I don’t because I’m lazy—never know what half of them are. Kids are on now, and I’m paying close attention because I’m watching my great-nieces next week and they like to cook, so I might devise some kind of chopped competition for them (or not!)

Tell them to make you a pasta sauce but ban garlic and see what that gets you.

;)

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:33:57pm

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

You are thinking about this in very conventional ways that remind me of how the Bush Administration could not conceive of a non-state actor carrying out attacks like 9/11. Here, you seem to think that ISIS needs to hold physical ground to exist. They don’t.

Here’s an analogy - when Terminator came our in 1985, we all thought in terms of mainframe computers which had to physically BE somewhere, which had to be BIG, and therefore vulnerable.

Terminator 3, whatever its vices or virtues as a film, turned that on its head. Skynet became a web-based, decentralized AI that was everywhere and thus nowhere.

THAT’S what we’re facing now. It’s comforting, but terribly simplistic, to think we can ‘wipe out ISIS’ with boots on the ground, or more bombs, or whatever. I suspect that for some time we’ll have to deal with homegrown stochastic terrorism, like Orlando or Nice.

ISIS has a hold on the imaginations of Islamic radicals like the killers in Orlando and Nice precisely because it is a force in being, even if unrecognized. Without territory, without imitating a state, it’s one more terrorist gang among many. Stochastic terrorism can’t be completely stopped, but eradicating ISIS can slow it down greatly, I think, by showing sic semper tyrannis.

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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:34:07pm

We have had someone that loves the Country and has fought for the Country for the last 8 years fuckhead.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:34:26pm

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

You are thinking about this in very conventional ways that remind me of how the Bush Administration could not conceive of a non-state actor carrying out attacks like 9/11. Here, you seem to think that ISIS needs to hold physical ground to exist. They don’t.

Here’s an analogy - when Terminator came our in 1985, we all thought in terms of mainframe computers which had to physically BE somewhere, which had to be BIG, and therefore vulnerable.

Terminator 3, whatever its vices or virtues as a film, turned that on its head. Skynet became a web-based, decentralized AI that was everywhere and thus nowhere.

THAT’S what we’re facing now. It’s comforting, but terribly simplistic, to think we can ‘wipe out ISIS’ with boots on the ground, or more bombs, or whatever. I suspect that for some time we’ll have to deal with homegrown stochastic terrorism, like Orlando or Nice.

The metric for success or failure in fighting ISIS is: “How many people in the world think like ISIS?” It’s a bitch to manage.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:34:34pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

I was wondering who the screaming neck-beard was…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:34:39pm

re: #172 teleskiguy

UpChuck did retweet you.

I saw that. Immediately got insulted by some racist fucks.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:35:38pm

re: #176 The Vicious Babushka

Steroided up guy says Trump supported his Steroided Up Guys Fighting Each Other business.

It’s only a matter of time before those Roidheads file for the very Social Security Disability benefits they detest…

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:35:46pm

re: #148 Brian J.

Some of the factors that led to Body Count Math back then aren’t present today; we don’t have troops in country except for maybe some Special Ops, and with drone and satellite reconnaissance, we can more easily reduce (or hopefully eliminate) double-counting. I know the problem can’t be eliminated entirely, but we’ve got the lessons of MACV to learn from.

As for the risk of terrorism when we mop up ISIS, all the more reason to finish them as quickly as possible. If we can ship more bombers and drones to the fight, we ought to do it. If our allies (and even the Russians) want more logistical aid for their efforts, we should provide it if at all possible. Once they’re gone, it gets a lot harder to pledge allegiance to ISIS when there is no ISIS.

1. We are getting a tad off track here.
2. Airpower is only effective as long as Daesh continues to employ set piece warfare strategies. That will change at some point (sooner rather than later) and Daesh will be forced to resort to asymmetric tactics.
3. Airpower has very limited application when this occurs and reports just in today indicate a heavy collateral civilian body count in airstrikes over the past few days.
4. The Sultanate ruling over the Ummah is an idea that has been around since the 9th century and it will not go away in our lifetime nor those of our grandchildren and great grandchildren. If Daesh is eventually swept away, another radical group will there to take its place and claim the mantle of leadership.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:36:19pm

Nevada State chair doesn’t know what city is the capitol of his state.

“Mr. Chairman, thank you,” said Michael J McDonald, chairman of the Nevada Republican party. “The great state of Nevada, where blue lives matter. We are battle born, brought in by the first Republican president in 1864,” he said. “We are very proud of our nation. From the great shores of Lake Tahoe to the most entertaining capital city Las Vegas, Nevada. What happens in Las Vegas will not stay in Las Vegas.”

In fact, Carson City is the capital of Nevada.

A party of, by, and for idiots.

sanluisobispo.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:36:23pm
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A Cranky One  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:36:48pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

Damn, Charles, you really suck at being irrelevant.

///

On another note, I’d like to say thanks for the comment refresh feature. So nice to be able to hide things again after revealing them and the brain says NOPE.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:37:40pm

Just blamed Benghazi deaths on “Clinton’s bad judgement”

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Nyet  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:37:45pm

Kerfuffler, if you’re still reading, from last thread:

re: #248 KerFuFFler

Thanks!
It can certainly wait a few days :)
I think I’ve too found someone who may help, btw…

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:37:55pm

re: #188 The Vicious Babushka

I think I can just make out the initials. They look like D.T. to me.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:38:55pm

re: #190 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Just blamed Benghazi deaths on “Clinton’s bad judgement”

Hey, that was last night. Tonight they’re supposed to blame her for cancer.

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TK-421  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:39:02pm

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:39:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:39:38pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:40:06pm

re: #188 The Vicious Babushka

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The thot plickens!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:40:09pm
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whitebeach  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:40:11pm

re: #148 Brian J.

Some of the factors that led to Body Count Math back then aren’t present today; we don’t have troops in country except for maybe some Special Ops, and with drone and satellite reconnaissance, we can more easily reduce (or hopefully eliminate) double-counting. I know the problem can’t be eliminated entirely, but we’ve got the lessons of MACV to learn from.

As for the risk of terrorism when we mop up ISIS, all the more reason to finish them as quickly as possible. If we can ship more bombers and drones to the fight, we ought to do it. If our allies (and even the Russians) want more logistical aid for their efforts, we should provide it if at all possible. Once they’re gone, it gets a lot harder to pledge allegiance to ISIS when there is no ISIS.

If we had learned a single fucking thing from MAC-V and the whole Vietnam debacle (including body counts—BTW, how did those work out for the Dems in ‘68?), then we would never have been in Iraq in the first place and ISIS would be as nonexistent as it was in the spring of 2003.

As for the pledging allegiance to ISIS business, I heard the rightwing talkshow creep Joe Pags making the same point in the same words Saturday while I was driving into Bossier City. That where you heard it?

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:40:22pm

re: #193 Skip Intro

Hey, that was last night. Tonight they’re supposed to blame her for cancer.

GOP convention speaker: She turned me into a newt!

The crowd wouldn’t even bother to ask how he recovered from being a newt.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:40:23pm

IMA CHRISTIAN GUN CARRYIN’ WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:41:03pm

These speakers are just wash, rinse and repeat.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:41:57pm

re: #186 Scottishdragon

1. We are getting a tad off track here.
2. Airpower is only effective as long as Daesh continues to employ set piece warfare strategies. That will change at some point (sooner rather than later) and Daesh will be forced to resort to asymmetric tactics.
3. Airpower has very limited application when this occurs and reports just in today indicate a heavy collateral civilian body count in airstrikes over the past few days.
4. The Sultanate ruling over the Ummah is an idea that has been around since the 9th century and it will not go away in our lifetime nor those of our grandchildren and great grandchildren. If Daesh is eventually swept away, another radical group will there to take its place and claim the mantle of leadership.

We are ranging a bit afield, but I appreciate the serious discussion. Daesh has a hold on radical thought precisely because they physically occupy territory that has importance in Islamic eschatology. If they lose the Raqqa area and are forced into asymmetric tactics, their USP (so to speak) is gone. They become just one more bunch of thugs instead of a unique and uniquely attractive threat to the Dar el Harb.

I realize that civilian casualties occur in war, but unless you believe we shouldn’t be participating in these operations at all, we cannot eliminate them entirely. We do our best to reduce them and should continue doing so, for a host of moral and practical reasons.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:42:06pm

re: #170 BeachDem

I don’t because I’m lazy—never know what half of them are. Kids are on now, and I’m paying close attention because I’m watching my great-nieces next week and they like to cook, so I might devise some kind of chopped competition for them (or not!)

How fun would that be!! Do it! And please report back.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:42:13pm

re: #200 EPR-radar

GOP convention speaker: She turned me into a newt!

The crowd wouldn’t even bother to ask how he recovered from being a newt.

“I got better.”

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VegasGolfer  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:42:21pm

re: #187 Skip Intro

Lots of dumb people live in my state.

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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:42:21pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:42:24pm

re: #202 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

These speakers are just wash, rinse and repeat.

Dispensers of GOP talking points are interchangeable parts.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:42:24pm

re: #179 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Tell them to make you a pasta sauce but ban garlic and see what that gets you.

;)

Don’t start with me, little girl! If I tell them no garlic, there will be no garlic.

Of course, they probably won’t listen to anything I say, because they’re 9 and they’re twins and they’ll probably gang up on me. Now I’m scaring myself.

I did send them a liittle sewing machine last year, which they’ve never used, so maybe we’ll make American Girl doll clothes instead. They have many (cough more than 20 cough)—spoiled? Nah.

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jonhendry  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:42:32pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

He really would, if he found some personal advantage in doing so.

He’d probably have his kids rifling through the FBI’s files on people who have ever slighted him, too.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:43:13pm

About the advisability of fun of Republicans - I suspect a lot of young people get mostof their news from shows like John Oliver, Samantha Bee, Stephen Colbert.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:43:22pm

re: #202 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

These speakers are just wash, rinse and repeat.

religious nationalism boilerplate. That is why you can have 12 year old kids become conservative hits when they regurgitate this stuff. It’s easy to do.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:43:26pm

re: #207 Tigger2

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I’m not optimistic (as if you couldn’t guess). Sanders’ endorsement was worth the square root of sod all, and most polls show nearly all Republicans willing to support Trump. He gives them the white supremacy they crave but couldn’t ask for out loud before.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:43:27pm
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VegasGolfer  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:44:36pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

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Now, now, don’t make fun of the way people talk…..

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:44:43pm

This guy is boring. Crowd doesn’t care.

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Great White Snark  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:44:48pm

re: #196 Charles Johnson

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lockjawcanbefun  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:44:48pm

The Crypt Keeper has been taking pretty good care of himself.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:44:53pm

Each new speaker has a more cartoonish voice than the previous one. They have to SOUND different because all these white people look the same.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:45:01pm

You have to yell “LOCK HER UP!” to get them fired up.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:45:05pm

Sully is live-blogging the convention. I liked this:

I love these generic platitudes from the dude with no neck. Trump shows up! He calls me on the phone! He sent me a newspaper clipping with a nice note! Seriously, that’s a speech at a national convention.

None of these friends of Trump have a single anecdote that tells us anything about him. They sound as plausible as a North Korean general toasting Kim Jong Un’s birthday.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:45:09pm

Did any of these mutha-trukas read the damn FBI report?

Oh yeah, I forgot…

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:45:09pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:45:24pm

re: #216 Jenner7

This guy is boring. Crowd doesn’t care.

Wait, is that Bernie?

I almost fainted.

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TK-421  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:45:24pm

They nominate Trump, immediately go back to attacking Hilary.

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worldknot  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:45:28pm

Not all dichotomies are false.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:45:30pm

re: #211 BlueSpotinAL

About the advisability of fun of Republicans - I suspect a lot of young people get mostof their news from shows like John Oliver, Samantha Bee, Stephen Colbert.

Of course, since young people vote in ever-lower numbers, that really doesn’t do us much good. Democrats did far better in terms of votes when young people (and everyone else) got their news from Uncle Walter and friends.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:46:18pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:46:22pm

re: #207 Tigger2

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That seems somewhat subdued, for the announcement by the highest elected official of a major political party of the official nomination of their Presidential candidate.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:46:27pm

re: #227 Brian J.

Of course, since young people vote in ever-lower numbers, that really doesn’t do us much good. Democrats did far better in terms of votes when young people (and everyone else) got their news from Uncle Walter and friends.

One thing that could be done is automatic voter registration.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:46:49pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

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Fucker has no clue.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:46:54pm
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JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:47:08pm

I hope the next speaker cribbed some lines from an Obama speech or this is going to put me to sleep.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:47:11pm

I thought the theme tonight was “Make America Work Again”? It’s still all about Benghazi and emails.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:47:25pm

re: #221 teleskiguy

Sully is live-blogging the convention. I liked this:

I miss Sully. He can obtuse as fuck at times, but he usually gets it right in the end and he has had some very sharp observations.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:47:54pm

re: #170 BeachDem

I don’t because I’m lazy—never know what half of them are. Kids are on now, and I’m paying close attention because I’m watching my great-nieces next week and they like to cook, so I might devise some kind of chopped competition for them (or not!)

Someone here, I can’t recall who, did a chopped competition with his wife.

Get tips! Do it!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:48:11pm

re: #209 BeachDem

Don’t start with me, little girl! If I tell them no garlic, there will be no garlic.

Of course, they probably won’t listen to anything I say, because they’re 9 and they’re twins and they’ll probably gang up on me. Now I’m scaring myself.

I did send them a liittle sewing machine last year, which they’ve never used, so maybe we’ll make American Girl doll clothes instead. They have many (cough more than 20 cough)—spoiled? Nah.

While I was making tonight’s corn and bean salad, I thought of you as I shoved the 9 cloves of garlic through the garlic press.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:48:21pm

re: #234 Jenner7

I thought the theme tonight was “Make America Work Again”? It’s still all about Benghazi and emails.

That’s been a GOP cottage industry for four years.

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jonhendry  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:48:57pm

re: #223 Kragar

There’s always Johnson/Weld. If they want to vote for a ticket with solid Republican credentials, and not vote for the guy who panders to Nazis, that’s an option.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:49:10pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:49:23pm

re: #227 Brian J.

Of course, since young people vote in ever-lower numbers, that really doesn’t do us much good. Democrats did far better in terms of votes when young people (and everyone else) got their news from Uncle Walter and friends.

We’re going to have a referendum in November on the subject of whether hate and bigotry is acceptable in this country.

That’s never really been the main issue in a POTUS general election before.

Nothing should be taken for granted, and of course Clinton and the Democrats should run hard and leave it all on the road.

However, I do have faith that the vote will come out the right way (probably with a dangerously close margin).

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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:49:25pm

If you have heard one of these speakers you have hear them all.

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calochortus  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:49:32pm

re: #233 JasonA

I hope the next speaker cribbed some lines from an Obama speech or this is going to put me to sleep.

Delegates don’t seem very interested either.

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:50:08pm

re: #199 whitebeach

If we had learned a single fucking thing from MAC-V and the whole Vietnam debacle (including body counts—BTW, how did those work out for the Dems in ‘68?), then we would never have been in Iraq in the first place and ISIS would be as nonexistent as it was in the spring of 2003.

We got within 0.7% of the White House despite a third party run designed to spite Democrats AND going with our third-choice candidate after #1 withdrew (due to the Sanders of the Sixties, Gene McCarthy) and #2 was shot.

As for the pledging allegiance to ISIS business, I heard the rightwing talkshow creep Joe Pags making the same point in the same words Saturday while I was driving into Bossier City. That where you heard it?

Don’t listen to him or any other right-wing radio. Many such shooters pledge allegiance to ISIS, usually via Internet. Here’s an article describing several such cases (in response to Orlando)

npr.org

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jonhendry  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:50:08pm

re: #230 BlueSpotinAL

“One thing that could be done is automatic voter registration.”

Yes, but that doesn’t actually get their butts to the polls.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:50:08pm

re: #193 Skip Intro

Hey, that was last night. Tonight they’re supposed to blame her for cancer.

I thought the focus for tonight was supposed to be Bill Clinton’s dick?

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:50:23pm

re: #239 jonhendry

Let me know when they have a shot to stop Trump.

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A Cranky One  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:50:34pm

re: #237 klys (maker of Silmarils)

While I was making tonight’s corn and bean salad, I thought of you as I shoved the 9 cloves of garlic through the garlic press.

That explains the lack of vampires in California.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:50:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:50:49pm
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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:50:58pm

Beardy dude in the electric blue jacket that Caesar Flickerman wore in the Hunger Games.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:51:10pm

re: #248 A Cranky One

That explains the lack of vampires in California.

If one is going to add flavor, it is better to do it right.

(I’m not all that far from the garlic capital of the world.)

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:51:21pm

re: #242 Tigger2

If you have heard one of these speakers you have hear them all.

Yeah, I’ve stopped the feed.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:51:48pm

re: #241 EPR-radar

We’re going to have a referendum in November on the subject of whether hate and bigotry is acceptable in this country.

That’s never really been the main issue in a POTUS general election before.

Nothing should be taken for granted, and of course Clinton and the Democrats should run hard and leave it all on the road.

However, I do have faith that the vote will come out the right way (probably with a dangerously close margin).

Thinking we’ll win by about 2%, better in the EV. OTOH, if even 40% of Americans vote for this throwback, we have a deep, long-term, problem.

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calochortus  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:51:58pm

re: #252 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If one is going to add flavor, it is better to do it right.

(I’m not all that far from the garlic capital of the world.)

China?

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:52:04pm

re: #250 Charles Johnson

Dude, I’m so excited!

ETxd75N3a1d4AV4Q7KNIWSAloGYJpHFW/secOwufM1BzOoqmrxVHfnAByxROWVT8Q7YRL3FTNJ2a6WAAH5wSUf49OuZbUUk8KDvxH6zlqleRfKD8eESwf78sTMMfUwIY4sfKFpDyIt+il0MhX/Mbm14K1tm9FMR2Fax4Y+WBzlw974hC5j/kWAV7WVW1Dat9YKeruUZHfyWSRQ3IQtALhothnEUQicfeWAIzwCN9YW5lXNM2wuCqqLY5JnMbCFFtb8mbkBX7XSyP0xQeEAItngDnAIpNpXtHA4JuYMYYxoJbbYA8RJoEKahBiIob4zLKIGRRXvXPqB3s8X7RQ41G1EDrPsaKh4hMRnCAtsSHhUTyM5mK5RHi61WkxU4jUdJZ6rjk6szIF6sXD2TSyoYzlhjEWyMCTrm5WIcfxROsRC4qfVERHnfZWmYeOQ/Xygts

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:52:21pm

re: #255 calochortus

China?

Didn’t you hear? We moved.

/

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VegasGolfer  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:52:27pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:52:29pm

re: #209 BeachDem

American Girl is quite trumpian.

Very keep up with the Jonses. How many do YOU have?

I have the $450.00 bedroom! You?

Sorry BD

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TK-421  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:52:34pm

Ugh, Ron Johnson.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:52:37pm

re: #250 Charles Johnson

Who
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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:52:58pm

re: #252 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If one is going to add flavor, it is better to do it right.

(I’m not all that far from the garlic capital of the world.)

Taegu?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:53:02pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:53:10pm

re: #245 jonhendry

“One thing that could be done is automatic voter registration.”

Yes, but that doesn’t actually get their butts to the polls.

Give everyone a refundable tax credit for voting in federal elections.

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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:54:07pm

Johnson, Stevens Family said they don’t blame Hillary.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:54:47pm

Radical Islamic Terrorists never killed anyone until Barack Obama became president I guess.

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calochortus  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:54:53pm

re: #257 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Didn’t you hear? We moved.

/

Well, I know you were looking at moving, but I didn’t think of China… ;)

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:55:08pm

re: #248 A Cranky One

The stinking rose is always a welcome guest in my house. That and a couple of tins of Altoids. :)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:55:28pm

re: #267 calochortus

Well, I know you were looking at moving, but I didn’t think of China… ;)

I’m fleeing the garlic ice cream. (Seriously, even I have lines that are NOT TO BE CROSSED.)

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:55:37pm

Giuliani now calling for Hillary to be jailed.

Trump is going to do it in his speech: He will pledge to have Hillary arrested and prosecuted the day after he is sworn in. The GOP is going Mugabe/Putin dictator.

This is a direct assault on the legitimacy of our electoral process when one party announces that the other party leadership will be arrested.

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jonhendry  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:55:42pm

re: #247 Kragar

Let me know when they have a shot to stop Trump.

Any vote by a right-leaning person taken away from Trump, and given to any other candidate, helps Trump lose. Yeah, it’d be nice if the vote went to Clinton. But some people on the right are dead-set on not voting for her.

If their vote goes to Johnson/Weld that’s fine. Johnson/Weld won’t get anywhere close to winning, but will still be a drag on Trump’s vote totals. If the Libertarian party got 15%, thanks to Republican voters, that’d kill Trump’s chances.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:55:46pm

They haven’t established any connection to ISIS with respect to the Orlando shooter or the Nice attacker.

But, whatever. They’re coming to kill us all. Or something.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:56:24pm
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:56:53pm

re: #272 Jenner7

They haven’t established any connection to ISIS with respect to the Orlando shooter or the Nice attacker.

But, whatever. They’re coming to kill us all. Or something.

FEAR FEAR FEAR OGGA BOOGA

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jonhendry  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:57:12pm

re: #264 Big Beautiful Door

Give everyone a refundable tax credit for voting in federal elections.

Not enough, we need GOTV in state and local also.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:57:51pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:57:58pm

re: #273 Charles Johnson

And I’m supposed to believe that the utterance of this simple phrase was enough to kill dozens of ISIS fighters on the opposite side of the world.

Magical thinking at its best.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:58:15pm

re: #272 Jenner7

They haven’t established any connection to ISIS with respect to the Orlando shooter or the Nice attacker.

But, whatever. They’re coming to kill us all. Or something.

Wingnuts are doing ISIS’ PR work for free.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:58:16pm

Alright! NRA shill. Guns Guns GUNS!!!

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:58:28pm

Sully not impressed with Mukasey:

8:44 p.m. The man whose soul is still somewhere on eBay, Michael Mukasey, is now making the case against Hillary Clinton’s email handling. And, yes, he’s right about her lies. She cannot help herself. But her lies are trivial and pathetic, rather than massive, shameless and endless. She is a mediocre politician in our liberal democratic system. Trump is a direct, grave and imminent threat to the very system itself.

That’s the essential choice this year. It is the easiest choice in my lifetime.

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b.d.  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:58:28pm

When ISIS comes a’knockin…

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:58:48pm

That baby is just as likely to shoot the mom…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:58:58pm
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Nyet  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:58:59pm

Careful, if you repeat “RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORIST” three times, Osama will appear.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:59:21pm

Who are 3? 4? people who couldn’t vote for their dad in the primary because they didn’t know how to register to vote in NY (which has motor voter).

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:59:39pm

re: #284 Nyet

Careful, if you repeat “RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORIST” three times, Osama will appear.

What do I have to repeat three times to get Obama to appear? I’d like to have a beer/drink of my choice with him.

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calochortus  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:59:43pm

I’m watching the PBS coverage of the convention and am really impressed with the number of empty seats showing behind them in the arena. You’d think the GOP would have tried to hide that.

In any event, it’s dinner time. I’ll BBL

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2016 • 5:59:47pm
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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:00:01pm

re: #250 Charles Johnson

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Is he in the porn business? He looks like he would be in the porn selling business

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:00:31pm

re: #248 A Cranky One

That explains the lack of vampires in California.

Karl Kolchak killed them all.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:00:36pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

Alright! NRA shill. Guns Guns GUNS!!!

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Hey, I know I’m just a trans woman and some things escape me utterly, but would somebody explain to me the attraction of under-dressed young women holding German HK assault rifles?

I really do not get this.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:01:40pm

re: #291 Scottishdragon

Hey, I know I’m just a trans woman and some things escape me utterly, but would somebody explain to me the attraction of under-dressed young women holding German HK assault rifles?

I really do not get this.

I really think it’s a cis male thing, and not all cis males are affected by it either.

At least, that is my take on it as a straight woman.

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JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:01:52pm

So cute listening to the NRA tell us that we’re on the cusp of losing our right to bear arms.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:01:53pm

re: #250 Charles Johnson

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Jesus, fuckers! Either shave or grow a beard! Make up your goddamn minds!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:02:05pm

re: #290 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Karl Kolchak killed them all.

Except in Santa Carla. Too damn many vampires in Santa Carla.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:02:12pm

Now I am throughly depressed. I think I will download a good movie and watch it.

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lockjawcanbefun  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:02:44pm

Someone’s auditioning for one of those FOX bottle blonde gigs.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:02:44pm

re: #296 PhillyPretzel

Now I am throughly depressed. I think I will download a good movie and watch it.

I sat mr. klys down last night and we watched Tangled again. I love that movie so much. Best recent Disney flick.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:03:26pm

re: #298 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I sat mr. klys down last night and we watched Tangled again. I love that movie so much. Best recent Disney flick.

I loved Tangled and Frozen.

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TedStriker  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:03:31pm

re: #166 teleskiguy


Why do I think that he’s not using that phrase in the same manner as this?

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:03:38pm

re: #297 lockjawcanbefun

Someone’s auditioning for one of those FOX bottle blonde gigs.

We might be seeing more pant suits soon with Ailes being ousted. Or not.

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b.d.  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:04:02pm

But I thought the gender gap was a made up liberal lie?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:04:08pm

re: #298 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I won’t lie, on our Disney cruise I stood in line to get my picture with Rapunzel. And then bought said picture.

I even had my hair down and pulled in front for it, because I am still five.

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VegasGolfer  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:04:19pm

Another embarrassment to nevada natile gulbis is speaking. Saw her in person once at the outback (lol) she thought she was so famous that she wore her hat way down so as not to be recognized, but nobody did, except me.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:04:26pm

re: #298 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For me it is a toss up between “Sense and Sensibility” or “Chariots of Fire.”

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:04:42pm

I can’t believe I am watching this shit show again tonight.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:04:44pm

REAGAN! DRINK!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:04:50pm

So, Donald Trump is officially nominated as the Republican party’s candidate for President of the United States of America
and this is their tentative plan for tomorrow’s cover

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:05:29pm

re: #305 PhillyPretzel

For me it is a toss up between “Sense and Sensibility” or “Chariots of Fire.”

I might have science geek night with The Martian again.

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majii  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:05:40pm

re: #291 Scottishdragon

I was born a woman, and I don’t understand it. I think it has something to do with some persons thinking having a scantily clad woman holding a huge gun is sexy. I won’t share what I think it looks like to me because doing so would require me to get ugly, very ugly.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:05:53pm

re: #291 Scottishdragon

Hey, I know I’m just a trans woman and some things escape me utterly, but would somebody explain to me the attraction of under-dressed young women holding German HK assault rifles?

I really do not get this.

It makes some dudes want to run out and shoot their guns!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:05:57pm
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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:06:04pm

re: #309 Scottishdragon

I might have science geek night with The Martian again.

I’d advise that one. Best film of 2015.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:06:09pm

He sounds like Dr. Evil. lol

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:06:10pm
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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:06:28pm

re: #311 ObserverArt

It makes some dudes want to run out and shoot their guns!

Ewww.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:06:56pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:07:36pm

re: #315 Charles Johnson

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Child double bogeyed and is stuck in a sand trap!

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VegasGolfer  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:07:45pm

re: #315 Charles Johnson

Anna kornukova of golf, except anna is attractive.

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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:07:56pm

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

So, Donald Trump is officially nominated as the Republican party’s candidate for President of the United States of America
and this is their tentative plan for tomorrow’s cover

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:07:59pm

re: #313 Brian J.

I’d advise that one. Best film of 2015.

Between Gravity, Interstellar and The Martian, the last three years have been teh awesome for space exploration fans at the movies.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:08:10pm

re: #291 Scottishdragon

Hey, I know I’m just a trans woman and some things escape me utterly, but would somebody explain to me the attraction of under-dressed young women holding German HK assault rifles?

I really do not get this.

Sex and power in one image intended to appeal to misogynist cavemen is my guess.

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LastYearsMan  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:08:13pm

Can you imagine if the media was half as aggressive with RWNJ bullshit or Iraq as it has been with Melania’s plagiarism?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:08:53pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:09:00pm

re: #315 Charles Johnson

And now… professional golfer Natalie Gulbis!

Why are they doing this?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:09:07pm

re: #291 Scottishdragon

I don’t get it either, and I’m a gun-owning single hetero/cis guy. Guns and sex just don’t mix.

It’s a really nice rifle, too (though I want the 7.62 version, not the 5.56). The picture doesn’t make me horny. Frankly I’m more interested in the gun than the modeling agency employee that was paid to stand there, and all I can think is that after 3-4 shots, that poor girl is going to burn her décolletage on the receiver.

I had a co-worker, a little blonde woman as cute as a button, who carried an M240B in the army. I figure she was the smallest person in her group, so they gave her the machine gun. I’d much rather hang around with her. >>

I’ve always felt that there’s something slightly wrong with guys who get off on bikini/gun pics. :P

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:09:09pm

re: #315 Charles Johnson

I think her claim to fame is she’s one of just a few non-Korean LPGA players. No question why Trump chose her.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:09:18pm

LOL.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:09:19pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

Alright! NRA shill. Guns Guns GUNS!!!

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But where does she pack the her extra magazines?

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:09:46pm

re: #321 Scottishdragon

Between Gravity, Interstellar and The Martian, the last three years have been teh awesome for space exploration fans at the movies.

Didn’t care for Interstellar myself. The mysticism and occasional laughable physics really got in the way for me.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:10:34pm

I thought Mitch would put the theme back on track, but it’s the same bs.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:10:40pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:11:03pm

Hey, when is Kim Davis going to speak from the podium?

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:11:14pm

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE AMERICA WORK AGAIN?

Benghazi.

Emails.

Hillary sucks.

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JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:11:29pm

I suspect what Mitch is doing is called “projecting.”

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PeterWolf  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:11:45pm

Two days, and I have yet to hear anything about policy or even much about the Republican platform. All I have seen is ideologues stepping up to a microphone to claim that Hillary is evil. And even their claims are just so much recycled trash it’s just disturbing. The Republican party is running on fumes.

The most amusing comment from one delusional idiot, was that unlike Hillary, Trump doesn’t lie to the cameras. Obviously, not a reader of Politifact.

I would feel sorry for Melania for all the attention #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes has gotten, if only she hadn’t told NBC prior to delivering her speech that she wrote it herself with as little help ass possible. And now, most appear to be blaming the speech writers and proof readers. So that makes Melania one of two things, a liar or a plagiarist. Take your pick.

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Tigger2  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:11:45pm

re: #331 Jenner7

I thought Mitch would put the theme back on track, but it’s the same bs.

That’s all they have.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:11:49pm

re: #323 LastYearsMan

Can you imagine if the media was half as aggressive with RWNJ bullshit or Iraq as it has been with Melania’s plagiarism?

Plagiarism is a safe subject for the main stream media. They can cover that extensively without ever confronting the both-siderist lie at the heart of US politics and their role in perpetuating it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:12:06pm

re: #321 Scottishdragon

Between Gravity, Interstellar and The Martian, the last three years have been teh awesome for space exploration fans at the movies.

Dunno. Never saw the middle one, but the first and last made me never EVER want to go to space! And I’m a child of the Space Age, whose dad dragged him bodily out of bed for every launch, and who watched both as Apollo 11 landed, and then again when Neil Armstrong stepped of the foot of the LEM and mumbled incoherently about leaps and man.

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majii  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:12:43pm

re: #317 goddamnedfrank

If this is true, it tells me that what I’ve suspected about Coulter is right—-she is good at stabbing others in the back at a distance, but when she’s face-to-face with them and someone says something about her, she flees the scene. Coulter seems to have no idea that her nasty reputation follows her around like a pile of 30-day old sh*t tied around her neck, and that it stinks the place up everywhere she goes. There’s no telling what Larry Wilmore was thinking about her while he was being gracious in greeting her.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:13:01pm

re: #259 Stanley Sea

American Girl is quite trumpian.

Very keep up with the Jonses. How many do YOU have?

I have the $450.00 bedroom! You?

Sorry BD

The nieces are spoiled, NOT Republican. Their mom buys a lot of them at garage sales and online . They do have the beds (Xmas from Grandma) and all kinds of other shit. I find it obscene. I made a donation to NO Kid Hungry in their name. But I also bought them little gifts because I didn’t want to be “that” aunt.

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TK-421  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:13:02pm

Make America Work (for pennies) Again .

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:14:11pm

re: #298 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I sat mr. klys down last night and we watched Tangled again. I love that movie so much. Best recent Disney flick.

I just got Zootopia from Netflix so I will pop that in the Blu Ray instead of watching this crapfest called the RNC.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:14:14pm

re: #326 Pawn of the Oppressor

I don’t get it either, and I’m a gun-owning single hetero/cis guy. Guns and sex just don’t mix.

It’s a really nice rifle, too (though I want the 7.62 version, not the 5.56). The picture doesn’t make me horny. Frankly I’m more interested in the gun than the modeling agency employee that was paid to stand there, and all I can think is that after 3-4 shots, that poor girl is going to burn her décolletage on the receiver.

I had a co-worker, a little blonde woman as cute as a button, who carried an M240B in the army. I figure she was the smallest person in her group, so they gave her the machine gun. I’d much rather hang around with her. >>

I’ve always felt that there’s something slightly wrong with guys who get off on bikini/gun pics. :P

I like women. I like sex. And I like guns, though not as much as I like woman and sex. But guns, women, and sex? Doesn’t do anything for me.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:14:38pm

re: #343 The Vicious Babushka

I just got Zootopia from Netflix so I will pop that in the Blu Ray instead of watching this crapfest called the RNC.

Oooo, report back on that one. We debated seeing it in theaters but never got around to it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:14:58pm

re: #310 majii

I was born a woman, and I don’t understand it. I think it has something to do with some persons thinking having a scantily clad woman holding a huge gun is sexy. I won’t share what I think it looks like to me because doing so would require me to get ugly, very ugly.

It just makes me cringe to think what that cold metal must feel like.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:15:06pm

re: #291 Scottishdragon

Hey, I know I’m just a trans woman and some things escape me utterly, but would somebody explain to me the attraction of under-dressed young women holding German HK assault rifles?

I really do not get this.

As a heterosexual man, I can say the model is hot, and if you are the kind of guy who is into guns that is double eye candy. Same reason they drap hot models over cars.

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JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:15:24pm

If they were really worried about protecting Southern states about Zika then there maybe wouldn’t be all those pesky provisions in the bill?

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:15:40pm

re: #330 Brian J.

Didn’t care for Interstellar myself. The mysticism and occasional laughable physics really got in the way for me.

The whole tesseract sequence is…difficult.

I still liked the movie and the black hole was simply jaw dropping. A professional paper on light distortion around the gravity well was published in a peer reviewed journal on the scenes since they were generated on the actual research from some of the top people in the astrophysics field. Nobody had ever seen what a black hole would actually look like when modeled on the known science.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:16:10pm

re: #348 JasonA

If they were really worries about protecting Southern states about Zika then there maybe wouldn’t be all those pesky provisions in the bill?

Nothing blocks Zika like a good ol Confederate Flag

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thedopefishlives  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:16:45pm

re: #347 Big Beautiful Door

As a heterosexual man, I can say the model is hot, and if you are the kind of guy who is into guns that is double eye candy. Same reason they drap hot models over cars.

We don’t use the phrase “gun porn” in a completely ironic fashion.

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majii  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:17:19pm

re: #333 Joe Bacon

As soon as she and Matt Staver can figure a way to get out of her having the contempt charge against her held up. I was kinda looking for her to pop up in Cleveland, too.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:17:43pm

So, this is about keeping Republicans in Congress WORKING, not about the country.

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whitebeach  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:17:45pm

re: #244 Brian J.

We got within 0.7% of the White House despite a third party run designed to spite Democrats AND going with our third-choice candidate after #1 withdrew (due to the Sanders of the Sixties, Gene McCarthy) and #2 was shot.

Don’t think so much in percentages. Electoral votes are what count. And maybe LBJ was your first choice, but don’t count me in. Nor was McCarthy a Sanders. He was a decent guy and fairly decent slightly left of center politician who strongly opposed the war LBJ built. And please don’t tell me you think George Wallace siphoned off votes from HHH. Those voters were gone and would never again vote Democratic.

Don’t listen to him or any other right-wing radio.

I only listen to these types when driving, and not too much then, but while I admire your purity, I find it makes sense now and then to hear what the enemy is saying.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:17:56pm

re: #344 Blind Frog Belly White

I like women. I like sex. And I like guns, though not as much as I like woman and sex. But guns, women, and sex? Doesn’t do anything for me.

Exactly. They don’t mix. There’s no sex in my violence tech.

I’m the same way about bikini babes hanging on bikes and cars… I don’t get it. Unless it’s rockabilly pinup style. :D

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:18:20pm

re: #343 The Vicious Babushka

I just got Zootopia from Netflix so I will pop that in the Blu Ray instead of watching this crapfest called the RNC.

Pixney has gotten really good again at making animated movies since the merger.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:18:54pm

What it is, really, is the idea that a woman THAT HOT is just as into guns as YOU, a chubby bearded camo-wearing yokel are, and so YOU have a chance with a woman THAT HOT, if you buy a big gun!!!

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TK-421  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:18:58pm

It has a profane/sacred element to it that titilates.

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Nyet  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:19:43pm

re: #328 goddamnedfrank

Last frame is precious.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:20:05pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:20:14pm

My wife from the other room: “Howdy Doody’s on!”

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:20:34pm

re: #354 whitebeach

I’m not into purity types either. I don’t care, occasionally you have to buy some ice cream.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:20:55pm

re: #347 Big Beautiful Door

I have a British Brown Bess 2nd pattern musket. I was teaching my kid how to do Continental drill today with the weapon (prime and load as done in ranks…make ready, fire, forward march, to the right about face etc) since he is now old enough to fire in ranks with our re-enacting unit.

It is a weapon of war. I utterly fail to see a sex connection with it. Of course, I also don’t have a phallic connection to guns :)

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JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:21:10pm

Tweety’s chin is positively glistening with spittle.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:21:25pm

I cant listen to BSNBC any more. Its time for Bob & Chez!!!!!!!!

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Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:21:33pm

Granny starver is on.

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plansbandc  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:21:43pm

re: #142 Ziggy_TARDIS

Which is absolutely NOT helpful right now or ever.

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danarchy  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:21:50pm

re: #347 Big Beautiful Door

As a heterosexual man, I can say the model is hot, and if you are the kind of guy who is into guns that is double eye candy. Same reason they drap hot models over cars.

Yeah, the important part is the beautiful woman in a bikini. She could really be doing anything. firing a gun…awesome, vacuuming…sweet, eating a meatball sub…fantastic. Anything is better with a model in a bikini.

Men, by and large, aren’t complicated…

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:22:18pm

Getting back to the convention (is it still on?).

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Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:22:34pm

re: #354 whitebeach

Don’t think so much in percentages. Electoral votes are what count. And maybe LBJ was your first choice, but don’t count me in. Nor was McCarthy a Sanders. He was a decent guy and fairly decent slightly left of center politician who strongly opposed the war LBJ built. And please don’t tell me you think George Wallace siphoned off votes from HHH. Those voters were gone and would never again vote Democratic

A change of just 42,000 votes (MO, NJ, AK) out of 73.2 million would have sent the election to the House where the Democrats still had a solid majority. And I might be persuaded that McCarthy wasn’t a Sanders if he hadn’t come back and tried to torpedo Carter in ‘76. As for LBJ, I think the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, and the rest of the Great Society outweigh Vietnam (or at least his support for the war should be offset by Ike’s, JFK’s, and Nixon’s support for the war).

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:22:37pm

This is boring as hell. Crowd blows.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:22:59pm
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A Cranky One  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:23:16pm

For those you didn’t catch Stephen Colbert last night, he discussed the original Trump/Pence logo and then suggested a replacement, shown below. Behind a spoiler tag for a reason. ;-)

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:23:16pm

re: #285 lawhawk

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Who are 3? 4? people who couldn’t vote for their dad in the primary because they didn’t know how to register to vote in NY (which has motor voter).

Disregard my previous idea about automatic voter registration. /////

Really, my point is that lack of registration DOES keep some young people from voting. As does having to go to a voting booth during the day, and special elections on squirrilly days for assistant dog catcher only.

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majii  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:23:32pm

re: #339 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d love to go into space if there were a vehicle available like The Enterprise. Since it doesn’t exist, I’m staying on Planet Earth for now. I’m looking forward to seeing Star Trek Beyond. My daughter’s coming home ton Friday for three days, and I’m hoping she’ll want to see it with me. I already know what’s going to break my heart when I’m watching it, though, and it’s seeing Anton Yelchin and knowing he won’t be in future Star Trek movies. He was such a talented actor, and so young, and I think he was perfect for the Chekov role.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:23:34pm
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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:23:47pm

Charles Johnson,

I’m sorry. I hate to say this, but the GOP is far from dead, unfortunately. You maybe guilty of wishful thinking. Its still possible that we might have to live through the terrifying nightmare scenario of a Trump presidency.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:24:28pm

re: #360 Jenner7

More like despair at seeing what they’ve gotten themselves into.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:24:29pm

re: #349 Scottishdragon

The whole tesseract sequence is…difficult.

I still liked the movie and the black hole was simply jaw dropping. A professional paper on light distortion around the gravity well was published in a peer reviewed journal on the scenes since they were generated on the actual research from some of the top people in the astrophysics field. Nobody had ever seen what a black hole would actually look like when modeled on the known science.

Here’s the Sciencemag interview with Kip Thorne about the movie.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:25:22pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:26:05pm
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Nyet  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:26:07pm

re: #377 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

I’m sorry. I hate to say this, but the GOP is far from dead, unfortunately. You maybe guilty of wishful thinking. Its still possible that we might have to live through the terrifying nightmare scenario of a Trump presidency.

The “GOP is dead” meme is resurrected every 5 years or so. Remember “GOPosaurus” from a few years ago? Yeah, how did that work out…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:26:55pm

re: #377 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

I’m sorry. I hate to say this, but the GOP is far from dead, unfortunately. You maybe guilty of wishful thinking. Its still possible that we might have to live through the terrifying nightmare scenario of a Trump presidency.

This Convention is increasing my optimism that won’t happen. But since Trump is the nominee of a major party, there is a nontrivial risk that he will actually win. Not likely, but nevetheless well within the realm of possibility.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:27:23pm

re: #375 majii

I’d love to go into space if there were a vehicle available like The Enterprise. Since it doesn’t exist, I’m staying on Planet Earth for now. I’m looking forward to seeing Star Trek Beyond. My daughter’s coming home ton Friday for three days, and I’m hoping she’ll want to see it with me. I already know what’s going to break my heart when I’m watching it, though, and it’s seeing Anton Yelchin and knowing he won’t be in future Star Trek movies. He was such a talented actor, and so young, and I think he was perfect for the Chekov role.

Re Anton Yelchin, yeah. He brought something to the role that Al Bester Walter Koenig didn’t. Not just a better accent, but more youthful energy.

Don’t get me wrong, I loved Koenig as Chekov, but I love the humble frantic genius aspect of the Yelchin version.

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jonhendry  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:27:44pm

I have a bad feeling that the Democratic convention in Philly is going to have WAY more of a problem with protesters - from the left.

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majii  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:27:45pm

re: #355 Pawn of the Oppressor

As a sex object [if you get what I mean] a gun is a poor substitute for the real thing. It’s hard, but it ain’t warm.

387
TK-421  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:28:51pm

7 Ways Paul Ryan Revealed His Love for Ayn Rand

1. Spent the Bush years demanding larger, more regressive tax cuts than Bush himself was proposing, urging them to be less afraid of “class warfare.”

2. Spent the Obama years repeatedly proposing budgets that “would produce the largest redistribution of income from the bottom to the top in modern U.S. history.”

In other words, Ryan’s entire legislative career.

3. Listed Rand’s magnum opus, Atlas Shrugged, as one of the three books he most frequently rereads.

4. Told The Weekly Standard, “I give out ‘Atlas Shrugged’ as Christmas presents, and I make all my interns read it.”

5. Repeatedly divided American society into “makers” and “takers.”

6. Declared that Rand’s thinking is “sorely needed right now” because we are “living in an Ayn Rand novel” and that “Ayn Rand, more than anyone else, did a fantastic job of explaining the morality of capitalism, the morality of individualism, and this, to me, is what is [sic] matters most.”

7. Appeared at a gathering of Rand devotees and declared Rand’s philosophy was “the reason I got involved in public service,” that he makes it “required reading in my office for all my interns and my staff,” and that her philosophy continues to inspire “almost every fight we are involved in here, on Capitol Hill.”

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:28:54pm

Fuck Paul Ryan.

I can’t take anymore. Later Lizards.

Oh yeah…what jobs have you had again Paul???

389
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:29:03pm

re: #386 majii

As a sex object [if you get what I mean] a gun is a poor substitute for the real thing. It’s hard, but it ain’t warm.

Of all the people to make that comment, you weren’t the one I would have expected but it is just perfect coming from you. Many updings.

390
Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:29:17pm

re: #385 jonhendry

I have a bad feeling that the Democratic convention in Philly is going to have WAY more of a problem with protesters - from the left.

I think the wind has been taken out of their sails for the most part. Plus these days they keep protestors far, far away from the Convention site.

391
Brian J.  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:29:19pm

re: #385 jonhendry

I have a bad feeling that the Democratic convention in Philly is going to have WAY more of a problem with protesters - from the left.

I suspect you’re correct. Too many liberals just don’t like imperfect human candidates and are too wedded to being out of power, where they can snark and snipe to their heart’s content.

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gwangung  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:30:05pm

re: #369 Skip Intro

Getting back to the convention (is it still on?).

[Embedded content]

Why isn’t this a storyline as well?

393
FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:30:35pm

There’s still plenty of time for someone screw up at the convention, so this could change (like last night)

394
Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:30:40pm

“whaddya say we unify this party”…

Haha.

395
No Depression  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:31:06pm

I can’t wait to cast my vote against the GOP in November. Not a single Republican is getting my vote, even if they are the only candidate for the position. Fuck them and everything they stand for.

396
goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:31:07pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

Nobody commented that her finger is on the trigger?

Y’all slippin’.

397
danarchy  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:31:10pm

re: #383 Big Beautiful Door

This Convention is increasing my optimism that won’t happen. But since Trump is the nominee of a major party, there is a nontrivial risk that he will actually win. Not likely, but nevetheless well within the realm of possibility.

The problem is the way you see this convention and the way the other half of america sees it are completely different. Listening to wingnut radio on the way to work this morning they were spewing about how great Sheriff Clarke, General Flynn and Rudy Guliani were.

398
Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:33:11pm

re: #377 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

I’m sorry. I hate to say this, but the GOP is far from dead, unfortunately. You maybe guilty of wishful thinking. Its still possible that we might have to live through the terrifying nightmare scenario of a Trump presidency.

I’d say even aside from a Trump presidency, the harbinger of the GOP’s behavior and the media’s deference to them outside of cheap gaffes that hide purposeful malice is already worrying enough. It’s clear that they’re simply not going to allow the GOP to die even if it means normalizing naked authoritariansim and nativism.

399
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:33:39pm

re: #382 Nyet

The “GOP is dead” meme is resurrected every 5 years or so. Remember “GOPosaurus” from a few years ago? Yeah, how did that work out…

Oh, I don’t think it’s dead as a force in election politics. I think the GOP as a rational alternative to the Democratic Party has just died. To be sure, it’s BEEN dying for some time, but despite all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over Nixon, Reagan, and the Bushes, and the fuckups they caused, I didn’t worry about the country going down THIS path with them in the WH. When they were elected, I said, “Aw, shit!” and figured the next 4-8 years would not be so great.

With Trump? Who the fuck knows how bad it can be? With his personality, there’s no stupid act one could imagine that I’d put past him.

And with him, the GOP has officially chosen the path of nativist authoritarianism.

400
Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:33:47pm

“We have a plan to fix it.”

Okay, I’m listening. What is it?

401
No Depression  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:34:08pm

re: #397 danarchy

The problem is the way you see this convention and the way the other half of america sees it are completely different. Listening to wingnut radio on the way to work this morning they were spewing about how great Sheriff Clarke, General Flynn and Rudy Guliani were.

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402
Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:34:26pm

re: #397 danarchy

The problem is the way you see this convention and the way the other half of america sees it are completely different. Listening to wingnut radio on the way to work this morning they were spewing about how great Sheriff Clarke, General Flynn and Rudy Guliani were.

True, but wingnuts aren’t a majority. The GOP has to reach beyond that base to get enough votes to win, and I don’t see how this Convention is helping them do that.

403
Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:34:27pm

I thought Scott Walker was the zombie-eyed granny starver? I can’t keep all the wonder bread service-cutter a-holes straight anymore. It’s like they all come out of a machine.

I’m not declaring the death of the GOP per se, because there’s no limit to self-absorbed self-destruction in American culture. I think the only thing that keeps a third of our populace from organizing into an actual Fascist movement with uniforms, boots, and shooting brown people in the face on the reg, is short attention span and having to be at work at 8 on Monday to pay the truck note. We’re hard-working assholes, but we’re also lazy cowards on the whole, paradoxically.

The idea of Trump in the white house is truly awful, especially after reading the piece in the New Yorker (?) by his ghostwriter. He apparently has the professional disposition of a meth-addled seagull. Just the guy to handle crises!

INT WHITE HOUSE. There is a crisis that demands attention.

General in charge of military stuff: “Mister President, we need to examine options for -“
Prezdunt Trump: “I don’t have time for that! You’re my top guy, you figure it out!”

404
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:34:51pm

re: #396 goddamnedfrank

Nobody commented that her finger is on the trigger?

Y’all slippin’.

She’s got fingers?

405
gwangung  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:34:58pm

re: #397 danarchy

The problem is the way you see this convention and the way the other half of america sees it are completely different. Listening to wingnut radio on the way to work this morning they were spewing about how great Sheriff Clarke, General Flynn and Rudy Guliani were.

It’s actually the relevant point that to win an American election, you don’t need to convert the other side or even the independent. You have to motivate your own side to go out and vote and depress turn out for the other guy.

The problem is…if you get lots of talk radio saying how great it is, but people can see empty seats and dead crowds, that’s not going to motivate you.

406
thedopefishlives  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:35:09pm

re: #400 Jenner7

“We have a plan to fix it.”

Okay, I’m listening. What is it?

Now, now, no showing the goods before the wedding. Elect the dipshits first and then they’ll unveil their plan.

407
Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:36:24pm

If you had people drink every time Trump’s name was mentioned, you’d go home sober.

408
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:36:29pm

re: #403 Pawn of the Oppressor

I thought Scott Walker was the zombie-eyed granny starver?

Goggle-eyed homunculus in charge of the Midwestern branch of the Koch empire, IIRC.

409
Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:37:19pm
410
JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:38:00pm

Of course the person to say the nicest things about Trump would be his lapdog.

411
“LALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!”  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:38:14pm

re: #403 Pawn of the Oppressor

Well Ryan, Walker, Priebus & Johnson were pretty much all spit out of the same machine.
The Wisconsin GoP. Same graduating class thereabouts.

412
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:38:26pm

Oh God, here we go.

413
Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:38:34pm

re: #382 Nyet

Dead? Not yet. Dying? Definitely, but I’m under no illusions that it will happen immediately. The demographics are inexorable - xenophobic nationalism is doomed. Maybe not tomorrow, but it won’t be long.

414
Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:38:34pm

Chants of “lock her up” again…

415
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:39:19pm

And here we go, embarrassing night number 2.

416
No Depression  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:39:59pm

re: #414 Jenner7

Chants of “lock her up” again…

Fascists.

417
JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:40:15pm

Wow. I had no idea Hillary was the chief strategist.

418
Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:40:30pm

Oh. my. god.

419
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:40:36pm

re: #340 majii

Thank god she didn’t breed.

420
“LALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!”  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:40:40pm

Holy shit. Christie is completely off the rail.

421
Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:40:42pm

Oh shit…

422
Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:40:50pm

“Is she guilty or not guilty?” GUILTY!

423
Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:41:09pm

Sieg, HEIL!
Sieg, HEIL!

Tonight I’m gonna party like it’s Nine-teen thirty nine…

424
Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:41:34pm

Blame Obama for girls kidnapped in Nigeria. Jesus. He is accusing her of treason now.

425
teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:41:35pm

re: #403 Pawn of the Oppressor

The idea of Trump in the white house is truly awful, especially after reading the piece in the New Yorker (?) by his ghostwriter. He apparently has the professional disposition of a meth-addled seagull. Just the guy to handle crises!

INT WHITE HOUSE. There is a crisis that demands attention.

General in charge of military stuff: “Mister President, we need to examine options for -“
Prezdunt Trump: “I don’t have time for that! You’re my top guy, you figure it out!”

Everybody needs to read that piece.

And this one, too.

426
jaunte  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:41:50pm

A parade of liars, accusing Hillary of lying.

427
Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:41:54pm

re: #422 Jenner7

“Is she guilty or not guilty?” GUILTY!

Your minute of hate.

428
VegasGolfer  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:42:16pm

Heres the background music for crispys trial

Law & Order Full Theme (High Quality)

429
JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:42:22pm

I see Christie and I imagine him as Trump’s Ser Dontos.

430
lockjawcanbefun  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:43:16pm

At least they’re not chanting for Hillary to be hanged.

Yet.

431
Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:43:25pm

This is fucking wild, man.

432
JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:43:47pm

The Sheeple’s Court.

433
fern01  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:44:29pm

re: #402 Big Beautiful Door

True, but wingnuts aren’t a majority. The GOP has to reach beyond that base to get enough votes to win, and I don’t see how this Convention is helping them do that.

Hillary bad - emails - Benghazi - her unfavorables are heading skywise. Every speaker is attacking her.

434
No Depression  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:44:36pm

re: #422 Jenner7

“Is she guilty or not guilty?” GUILTY!

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE ECONOMY? No substance whatsoever.

435
Jenner7  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:44:42pm
436
jaunte  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:45:07pm

This pretend prosecutin’ is pretty easy. Maybe Christie should ask Trey Gowdy how it works in real life.

437
A Cranky One  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:45:27pm

re: #403 Pawn of the Oppressor


The idea of Trump in the white house is truly awful, especially after reading the piece in the New Yorker (?) by his ghostwriter. He apparently has the professional disposition of a meth-addled seagull. Just the guy to handle crises!

INT WHITE HOUSE. There is a crisis that demands attention.

General in charge of military stuff: “Mister President, we need to examine options for -“
Prezdunt Trump: “I don’t have time for that! You’re my top guy, you figure it out!”

The scary part is that is exactly the scenario I see playing out for all kinds of issues should Trump win. Trump doesn’t have the energy, attention span or work ethic to handle the daily grind of the presidency. I believe he expects he can just sit in the office and make the occasional decision, while somebody else does the daily grind. I expect he would delegate most of the job to his equally non-skilled lackeys.

Given his track record when picking “top people”, it’s a frightening scenario.

438
Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:45:51pm

This is it, gang. This is the death of our democracy. When the stakes of running for POTUS are win or be imprisoned, you don’t get to be a democracy anymore. This is 3rd world dictatorship shit.

439
whitebeach  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:45:55pm

re: #386 majii

As a sex object [if you get what I mean] a gun is a poor substitute for the real thing. It’s hard, but it ain’t warm.

Well, it can be warm, but if it is, there’s a good chance you’re dead.

How ironic that it was John Lennon who wrote, however mockingly, the lyric “happiness is a warm gun.”

440
Scottishdragon  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:47:19pm

re: #434 No Depression

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE ECONOMY? No substance whatsoever.

No, there is substance. This is a skilled and mendacious prosecutor setting up the leader of the opposition as a criminal and a traitor. This is actual, no shit fascism.

441
MsJ  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:47:38pm

re: #385 jonhendry

I have a bad feeling that the Democratic convention in Philly is going to have WAY more of a problem with protesters - from the left.

And will be covered from every possible camera angle.

442
calochortus  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:47:56pm

I’m sort of caught up again. I keep forgetting. Who is the nominee here? Is Trump’s campaign slogan going to be “don’t vote for Hillary?” Somehow I doubt it.

443
Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:48:29pm

re: #433 fern01

Hillary bad - emails - Benghazi - her unfavorables are heading skywise. Every speaker is attacking her.

Look how many on the left side of things have completely fallen for the bleating of the Wurlitzer on Hillary. It might not keep her from the presidency, but it’s going to do a lot to keep up the aura of illegitimacy that allows the GOP to essentially do what they want without consequence.

444
majii  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:48:34pm

re: #427 Scottishdragon

That this convention keeps focusing on HRC being a lying crook and a killer tells me that this is not a political convention, it’s a convocation of judges, jurors, and executioners. They’re trying HRC before the nation since they can’t do it in a legal setting because, see, they just know she’s guilty of something no matter what multiple investigations have shown.

445
JasonA  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:49:17pm

I feel bad for thinking this but… Fatticus Finch.

There. I said it.

446
majii  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:50:59pm

re: #445 JasonA

Your comment has me ROTFLMBO.

447
calochortus  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:51:13pm

re: #444 majii

That this convention keeps focusing on HRC being a lying crook and a killer tells me that this is not a political convention, it’s a convocation of judges, jurors, and executioners. They’re trying HRC before the nation since they can’t do it in a legal setting because, see, they just know she’s guilty of something no matter what multiple investigations have shown.

Yup. We can’t find facts, so let’s go with our gut feelings. No puns intended.

448
BeachDem  Jul 19, 2016 • 6:54:19pm

re: #424 Scottishdragon

Blame Obama for girls kidnapped in Nigeria. Jesus. He is accusing her of treason now.

Wouldn’t it be the height of irony if, on Hillary’s inauguration day, Christie got indicted for Bridgegate and Trump got indicted for sexual assaul, or fraud or RICO conspiracy or whatever
.
Hey. a girl can dream…

449
William Lewis  Jul 19, 2016 • 7:05:04pm

re: #321 Scottishdragon

Between Gravity, Interstellar and The Martian, the last three years have been teh awesome for space exploration fans at the movies.

And The Expanse on the TV.

450
Renaissance_Man  Jul 19, 2016 • 7:05:08pm

re: #402 Big Beautiful Door

True, but wingnuts aren’t a majority. The GOP has to reach beyond that base to get enough votes to win, and I don’t see how this Convention is helping them do that.

We say this a lot. I worry that it isn’t true.

451
CriticalDragon1177  Jul 19, 2016 • 7:34:04pm

re: #382 Nyet

The “GOP is dead” meme is resurrected every 5 years or so. Remember “GOPosaurus” from a few years ago? Yeah, how did that work out…

No I don’t remember that, but obviously anyone who thought the GOP would be gone by now, was clearly wrong.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 19, 2016 • 7:35:32pm

re: #383 Big Beautiful Door

This Convention is increasing my optimism that won’t happen. But since Trump is the nominee of a major party, there is a nontrivial risk that he will actually win. Not likely, but nevetheless well within the realm of possibility.

A truly disturbing possibility indeed.

453
CriticalDragon1177  Jul 19, 2016 • 7:37:19pm

re: #413 Charles Johnson

Dead? Not yet. Dying? Definitely, but I’m under no illusions that it will happen immediately. The demographics are inexorable - xenophobic nationalism is doomed. Maybe not tomorrow, but it won’t be long.

Sadly I think you might be being a bit too confident.

454
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2016 • 8:06:16pm

re: #345 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oooo, report back on that one. We debated seeing it in theaters but never got around to it.

It’s great.

I’ll need to watch it again to get all the jokes and easter eggs that I missed the first time.

455
KerFuFFler  Jul 19, 2016 • 9:10:08pm

re: #191 Nyet

Kerfuffler, if you’re still reading, from last thread:

re: #248 KerFuFFler

Thanks!
It can certainly wait a few days :)
I think I’ve too found someone who may help, btw…

Hi Nyet,
my husband’s colleague has given me a “gist” translation which is that she is basically asking him about her relatives’ well being and asking him to tell any of her relatives that he is in contact with that she was OK.

A poignant missive highlighting the ongoing struggles of displaced people to find one another in the aftermath of genocide and the subsequent political reorganization in eastern Europe after the war…

Possibly a more detailed translation tomorrow———NY time zone. :)


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