Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:
Generalissimo Trump: We Recap the RNC Days Two and Three; Ted Cruz Booed for Refusing to Endorse Trump; Eric and Donald Trump Junior Speeches; Rudy Giuliani’s America; The Mike Pencebot Accepts His VP Nomination; Republican Contradictions; Clint Webb for Senate; Ben Carson Says Hillary is Pro Lucifer; Michael Moore’s Prediction for the Election; and more.
Kaine successfully took on NRA in a gun state, smoking in a tobacco state, climate change in a coal state. #ProgressiveWhoGetsResults
— Nikki Finke (@NikkiFinke) July 23, 2016
.@CLewandowski retweeted white supremacist Chuck C. Johnson’s video showing Chuck stalking @MichelleFields. pic.twitter.com/Y3TjEClElh
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 23, 2016
re: #2 Charles Johnson
But of course
re: #1 KingKenrod
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Better governor than Warner IMO. Warner did a nice job but Kaine was willing to as they get at there things that Warner would have been too cautious to do so. I’ve met Kaine once. Flat out told him that he was the first person I ever voted for.
Chuck doesn’t appear to have shoulders. His neck just slopes down to his arms.
Good article.
Today’s leak culminates a very active and fruitful week for the Russians. https://t.co/Wv7tFaVOVP
— Franklin Foer (@FranklinFoer) July 22, 2016
So we got a GOP nominee who is loved and I mean loved by white supremacists and some people on the left are upset because the Democratic nominee isn’t left wing enough for them. I’m sorry but have some fucking perspective.
Scott Walker names Daniel Kelly to high court
Gov. Scott Walker on Friday named a little-known Waukesha lawyer with no judicial experience to the state Supreme Court, putting Daniel Kelly on the bench and keeping in place the high court’s 5-2 conservative majority.
…In his application, Kelly included a 2014 book chapter in which he wrote same-sex marriage would rob marriage of any meaning and likened affirmative action to slavery.
“Affirmative action and slavery differ, obviously, in significant ways,” Kelly wrote. “But it’s more a question of degree than principle, for they both spring from the same taproot. Neither can exist without the foundational principle that it is acceptable to force someone into an unwanted economic relationship. Morally, and as a matter of law, they are the same.”
re: #8 TK-421
Man Walker’s a prick. This is a good reminder that the GOP establishment is just as toxic as Trump.
About #Munich it seems that right wingers have forgot about the #Erfurt school massacre in 2002 that killed 16 people
— دانیال (@danja84) July 23, 2016
And now this ➤ MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight https://t.co/gQBcwQ4Wnw
— Shoq (@Shoq) July 23, 2016
re: #11 MsJ
They’re just NOW getting that info out of the HD?
re: #12 Jayleia
They’re just NOW getting that info out of the HD?
Yeah. NTSB thought it all along but the gov of Malaysia was like Egypt after that one went down; wouldn’t believe or acknowledge.
Keep whining about Tim Kaine https://t.co/1GC5Uh2j8O
— BWD (@theonlyadult) July 23, 2016
Chris Christie, Ben Carson, Rudy Giuliani are on Donald Trump’s shortlist for cabinet positions https://t.co/7zW8S7spdX
— OccuWorld ❌ (@OccuWorld) July 23, 2016
re: #14 MsJ
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They just hear moderate from swing state and it freaks them out. They don’t even bother to research Kaine and his history.
“Bob McDonald”? pic.twitter.com/XIAz76XisD
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) July 23, 2016
He deleted it.
re: #19 Jenner7
Bob made off with those golden arches.
re: #1 KingKenrod
The NRA gives Tim Kaine an F. Which I’m sure he has framed up on a wall somewhere.
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) July 23, 2016
re: #16 HappyWarrior
They just hear moderate from swing state and it freaks them out. They don’t even bother to research Kaine and his history.
It really annoys me how lazy most people are when it comes to researching politicians, not that I’m innocent (I’m not). They look at one or two issues, find that the candidate’s views are too nuanced or not hard-line enough for their liking and then completely dismiss their entire work. Too many people immediately spout off when they should shut up and do some research first.
Attempts at sleep not helped by MurderCat’s crepuscular assassination attempts when I go to the bathroom in the early hours.
— Charlie Stross (@cstross) July 23, 2016
Star Tribune: Man, 26, charged with shooting at 5 Somali men heading to Ramadan prayers
Anthony Sawina, of Lauderdale, was charged with five counts of second-degree assault and is being held in Hennepin County jail in lieu of $750,000 bail, authorities said.
A Lauderdale man was charged with assault Friday in an apparent hate crime last month in which five Somali men were shot at while they were returning to a mosque for Ramadan prayers.
Anthony Sawina, 26, was charged with five counts of second-degree assault in connection with the case. He remains in the Hennepin County jail in lieu of $750,000 bail.
His initial court appearance was set for Monday afternoon.
Just before 2:30 a.m. on June 29, the five Somali men were walking back to their car after playing basketball when they encountered Sawina and a group emerging from a Dinkytown bar, police said. One of the people in Sawina’s group asked one of the victims: “What’s that dress you’re wearing?” according to a criminal complaint filed in Hennepin County District Court.
Authorities say that when the five men, who were all wearing qamis, a traditional Muslim prayer robe, ignored the remark and got into a car to leave, another man in Sawina’s group made a derogatory comment about Muslims.
It seems unlikely that any model who wishes to remain active in the industry would voluntarily want to be associated w/ a Klan politician.
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 23, 2016
re: #16 HappyWarrior
They just hear moderate from swing state and it freaks them out. They don’t even bother to research Kaine and his history.
I’ll admit that I didn’t know much about Tim Kaine before today, but the more I read about him, he’s a brilliant choice. I like it.
So, what’s with the wikileaks DNC email thing? Headline says DNC was working against Bernie.
re: #25 goddamnedfrank
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re: #27 Jenner7
So, what’s with the wikileaks DNC email thing? Headline says DNC was working against Bernie.
It was just one DNC staffer who floated the idea of attacking Bernie Sanders’ atheism. An idea that clearly wasn’t acted upon, so nothing to really give a shit about.
re: #19 Jenner7
@SopanDeb @chrislhayes Trump means “Old McDonald,” who had a farm but sold it to EIEIO Corp. to avoid the estate tax.
— Jon Perr (@Perrspectives) July 23, 2016
.@CLewandowski_ retweeted white supremacist Chuck C. Johnson’s video showing Chuck stalking @MichelleFields. pic.twitter.com/a4u4sekFbF
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 23, 2016
re: #28 Dr Lizardo
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Oh ew, where did that enormous green blob come from? https://t.co/AUAZC5QPWr pic.twitter.com/m1uQwHuyJD
— Gizmodo (@Gizmodo) July 23, 2016
@MMFlint Dude, i understand that you are the ultimate anti-everything, But would you not be a dick about one thing one time?
— Transgender Rights (@TransRightsMOVE) July 23, 2016
re: #33 goddamnedfrank
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re: #26 Lidane
I’ll admit that I didn’t know much about Tim Kaine before today, but the more I read about him, he’s a brilliant choice. I like it.
Nothing wrong with not knowing too much about him. To your credit, you’ve looked into him. I think people are really going to like Tim as they get to know him. There’s a reason why Virginia has gone from a state that didn’t even go Democratic for Carter has become competitive and Kaine’s a big part of that and he’s got a nice record too.
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re: #29 No Depression
It was just one DNC staffer who floated the idea of attacking Bernie Sanders’ atheism. An idea that clearly wasn’t acted upon, so nothing to really give a shit about.
So it was one person and not the DNC cabal that it’s being made out to be. Typical.
How do you respond to right wingers when they cry about Trump supporters being generalized? Especially when they try to attack you and say you don’t like Muslims being generalized so why generalize Trump supporters?
re: #35 Lidane
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Oh go fuck yourself Mike. Kaine has actually accomplished a lot in his political career. If you had your way, Clinton would have chosen someone who may have a great voting record but doesn’t know how to get legislation passed or to run difficult campaigns. Man, I’m sorry but I’m tired of this part of the left’s bullshit. Moore doesn’t know shit about Tim Kaine. He just knows he’s a Democrat with a moderate reputation from a swing state and he thinks that means that Kaine has no spine.
re: #34 MsJ
You know, for all of Gawker’s faults (of which there are many) over the years they cultivated a knack of glomming on to stories like this. And they pissed off UpChuck to no end, so there’s that too.
How her image came to be used by David Duke remains an open question. Did he just steal it or did Trump Model Mgmt. sell him the rights?
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 23, 2016
re: #38 goddamnedfrank
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Finally, if the rights were sold does this violate their contract with her? Associating your talent with a social pariah is usually “bad.”
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 23, 2016
RT @HalleyBorderCol #TrumpPence16 Screwing America pic.twitter.com/Dg6fqAvzQ3
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) July 23, 2016
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re: #41 HappyWarrior
On the bright side, the guy has a prediction record worse than Morris in regards to Presidential Elections, so him saying Trump will win is not a good sign for Trump.
re: #24 Eric The Fruit Bat
Star Tribune: Man, 26, charged with shooting at 5 Somali men heading to Ramadan prayers
Anthony Sawina, of Lauderdale, was charged with five counts of second-degree assault and is being held in Hennepin County jail in lieu of $750,000 bail, authorities said.
2nd degree assault? That should not apply if gun used. jeebus.
re: #48 Ziggy_TARDIS
On the bright side, the guy has a prediction record worse than Morris in regards to Presidential Elections, so him saying Trump will win is not a good sign for Trump.
i think Moore like many lefty types I know lives in an ideological bubble. He never considers how much for example a VP nominee that speaks fluent Spanish could really help with the Latino community especially when you got an opponent like Trump.
re: #37 HappyWarrior
Some people just seem to get a perverse sense of pleasure from pissing on someone else’s head. I tend to avoid know-it-alls because they seem to think that they’re always the smartest person in the room. I reserve the right to make my own decisions and don’t feel I need people like them to make them for me. These types are not as important as they think they are.
Correction: “van de Laar” not der.
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 23, 2016
re: #26 Lidane
I’ll admit that I didn’t know much about Tim Kaine before today, but the more I read about him, he’s a brilliant choice. I like it.
Ditto. He’s great. I can’t wait to hear him on the trail & at the convention.
re: #49 Stanley Sea
2nd degree assault? That should not apply if gun used. jeebus.
It is under MN law. Felony assault with a deadly weapon good for 7 years per count
re: #51 majii
Some people just seem to get a perverse sense of pleasure from pissing on someone else’s head. I tend to avoid know-it-alls because they seem to think that they’re always the smartest person in the room. I reserve the right to make my own decisions and don’t feel I need people like them to make them for me. These types are not as important as they think they are.
There certainly is a lot of smugness about them. Their perverse view that they are the only ones in the Democratic Party for example. I mean I’m well to Clinton’s left but I feel she’s more tolerant of other opinions than Bernie was. These types want an echo chamber. They don’t want healthy discussion of the issues. If we had done things their way on health care, we’d still be fighting for it. ACA isn’t perfect but thanks to it, I can no longer be denied coverage due to my heart condition and quite a few more million Americans now do have insurance. That to me is more important than seeing who has the most progressive dick.
re: #49 Stanley Sea
2nd degree assault? That should not apply if gun used. jeebus.
Yeah that’s attempted murder any day of the week.
re: #28 Dr Lizardo
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Is there anything Trump doesn’t have his little hands in? Trump really reminds me of one of those post-Soviet oligarch types that use resentment to preserve their own power. I just hope our country is wise and soundly rejects him at the polls.
We told you. We warned the country…
First is was allowing the gays to marry…
Then it was lettin’ the wrong genitals into restrooms…
It was only a matter of time…
It was only a matter of time…
wow huge congrats to toilet pic.twitter.com/nHIpiHBd3i
— becca t (@beccaandthebox) July 22, 2016
re: #57 Stanley Sea
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I want this to go big. It’s a single degree of association relationship between Trump and Duke, established after Trump’s ridiculous shuck and jive over denouncing Duke and white supremacy. Either he has no problem associating his talent with the most overt racism imaginable or his modeling agency is even more inept than his campaign. None of it is a good look for him.
re: #60 goddamnedfrank
I want this to go big. It’s a single degree of association relationship between Trump and Duke, established after Trump’s ridiculous shuck and jive over denouncing Duke and white supremacy. Either he has no problem associating his talent with the most overt racism imaginable or his modeling agency is even more inept than his campaign. None of it is a good look for him.
And again, they seem to have no idea how easy it is to look this stuff up nowadays. They’re not learning, either.
re: #56 goddamnedfrank
Yeah that’s attempted murder any day of the week.
He’s such a normal, nice white guy.
re: #59 FormerDirtDart
I’m going to guess that its the bride, since most toilets are white…except for that one in the club I saw…it was kinda more greenish-yellow camouflage.
So I held it in.
re: #40 electrotek
I can’t speak for others, but I do not associate with those who have bad reputations. The persons you’re referring to know Trump is toxic in so many ways. They’ve seen it for themselves, but they’re willing to overlook the ugliness because they agree with the things he says/does. Agreeing with the things he says/does means they approve of them. There’s no way they can avoid it, Electrotek. Their denial reminds me of the old adage that if you lie down with dogs, you’ll get fleas. If one doesn’t want a certain stench on him/herself, s/he should dissociate him/herself from the individual/persons. If Trump is on TV and says that he wants to export all Xs and they laugh, clap, or say nothing against it, they approve of it. They’re not only lying to themselves, they’re lying to you when they tell you that although they’re not like Trump, they’re going to vote for him in November anyway. You don’t have a problem, they do.
re: #58 HappyWarrior
Is there anything Trump doesn’t have his little hands in? Trump really reminds me of one of those post-Soviet oligarch types that use resentment to preserve their own power. I just hope our country is wise and soundly rejects him at the polls.
Well here’s something
Judge orders Trump to pay nearly $300,000 in attorney’s fees in Doral painter’s lawsuit https://t.co/lLAE2Bgj8V #BlueCollarBillionaire
— Elizabeth Graham J D (@Ms_Liz2) July 23, 2016
Via Anne Laurie at Balloon Juice—my chin is on the table.
https://t.co/oxOkQA7QHw pic.twitter.com/ToLFSPlwlm
— Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) July 22, 2016
re: #50 HappyWarrior
i think Moore like many lefty types I know lives in an ideological bubble.
He currently resides in Traverse City MI-which is about as whitebread as you can get-go 10 miles outside of the Grand Traverse area and its a whole different world.
re: #35 Lidane
The people who might stay home are Republicans. That’s not bad for us.
I’m getting sick of the debbie downers. Yes, polls show it’s close, but I don’t think it is. I guarantee you Latinos and AA’s are not going to sit this one out.
re: #60 goddamnedfrank
I want this to go big. It’s a single degree of association relationship between Trump and Duke, established after Trump’s ridiculous shuck and jive over denouncing Duke and white supremacy. Either he has no problem associating his talent with the most overt racism imaginable or his modeling agency is even more inept than his campaign. None of it is a good look for him.
I’ve tweeted like 3 times. No retweets. I don’t have coverage.
Charles needs to look into it & decide if worthy.
I agree, it’s a big fucking deal. If just optics, that’s enough.
Ugh. Kaine. Ugh.
And my enthusiasm has just been halved.
My favorite financial crank is at it again-this time with a big arse dogwhistle….
This is beyond the pale….re: #66 Stanley Sea
What a cheap b*st*rd. He’s always getting goods and services and stiffing business owners and their employees.
BREAKING: Trump Campaign Floored By Federal FEC Investigation For Abusing Campaign Funds https://t.co/QWuBFbfYVL pic.twitter.com/ykelpBPy5g
— Bipartisan Report (@Bipartisanism) July 21, 2016
omg watch this
Cute to creepy: Asia’s animal kingdom. Watch now: https://t.co/mlFKFE528g
— Reuters TV (@ReutersTV) July 6, 2016
re: #74 goddamnedfrank
Oh, Trump’s gonna blow a gasket. I can hear the conspiracy theory engine revving up all the way over here in Central Europe.
re: #74 goddamnedfrank
They were surprised that they had to follow the law?
Unsurprisingly, I am not surprised that they are surprised by that revelation.
Ugh, I have so much to do tomorrow.
I worked so late that my clock is off, I should be in bed.
I’m going there now.
Carry on.
re: #43 goddamnedfrank
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re: #80 Nyet
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Kaine is a fine choice. Not the razzle dazzle most want, but a smart measured fine choice.
Night.
re: #82 Stanley Sea
Kaine is a fine choice. Not the razzle dazzle most want, but a smart measured fine choice.
Night.
I disagree.
re: #69 Jenner7
I know a lot of blacks because I’m one, and not one of them has said s/he doesn’t plan to vote in November. Wherever I go in Middle GA and run into other blacks, the subject of Trump comes up and a look of revulsion appears on their faces. No way will these people “sit out” the November election because they do not want Trump anywhere near the WH. Furthermore, I think a recent poll showed that Trump has zero percent support among Black Americans in some important states. Also, he can trot out whichever *ss-kissing black person he wants and parade them around 24/7, but I don’t think they will be able to significantly increase his support among Black Americans. Too much has been said and done by Trump and other GOP politicians and their supporters through the years, and we will always remember these things.
re: #85 TedStriker
OK, who would you have rather seen as the pick?
Someone who didn’t praise TPP as late as Thursday.
You know, I have to admit this: some of my old HS friends are Trump supporters.
I’m not really approving of it, but it’s hard.
Hard because these are people I went to school with and had great memories of those times.
I know they have good hearts but their support for Trump is really tearing apart their moral compass. I struggle with that. It’s hard to reconcile your great memories with them from yesteryear with their support for a vile and divisive candidate.
I know many would end up deleting them off their Facebook page, as far as social media is concerned. However, I can’t get myself to do that. I believe in dialogue with even your fiercest opponent so I let them stay on and debate their points. Does it get heated sometimes? You bet’cha, but in the end you gain your cool and realize that it was all for nothing. But, was it all for nothing? You could have kept it in your chest and let it accumulate to where it would unleash at the worst possible time, and the consequences would be worse than. So to some, maybe it wasn’t for nothing.
So how do you reconcile your beliefs with those diametrically opposed to yours in light of the most divisive election of our times, in an age of social media?
re: #86 Nyet
Someone who didn’t praise TPP as late as Thursday.
You didn’t fully answer my question…gimme a name(s).
Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
re: #88 TedStriker
Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I don’t do it, btw. Were I in the US, I would help the campaign as much with donations and stuff, even if they chose a moderate Republican. Anything to stop Trump. Criticizing a VP pick is not making an enemy.
re: #90 TedStriker
Then I can’t take your refusal/dislike of Kaine seriously.
I’m crushed. Your opinion was very important to me.
re: #86 Nyet
Someone who didn’t praise TPP as late as Thursday.
And now his boss says nope to it and so will he. That’s American politics in a nutshell.
re: #93 William Lewis
And now his boss says nope to it and so will he. That’s American politics in a nutshell.
Yeah, I know.
Signed back in. Because I’m not ready to sleep. Gave my kit some catnip & she’s losing it on the scratcher. I’m watching.
.@bistromath2013 Looks like Duke just deleted the tweet, he’s covering his tracks. Here’s the image he sent out. pic.twitter.com/pvMJHSVdOJ
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 23, 2016
That photo of Romy van de Laar is pretty old - at least 2011 when she made it her Facebook profile pic.
So the internet says she was born in 1996…making her 14 or 15 in the photo (!).
Discussing whether Duke stole a photo or not is like discussing whether Saddam had a good taste in music…
Tim Heidecker does an AMAZING Alex Jones impression.
EMERGENCY UPDATE FROM ALEX JONES PLEASE WATCH IMMEDIATELY pic.twitter.com/MnjxZSWC9k
— Jack Decker CIA (@timheidecker) July 23, 2016
I guess Republicans have no respect for intellectual property because It’s got the word “intellectual” in it….
So, Duke puts up a picture of a clearly underage blue-eyed blonde girl, with ‘Save Western Civilization”. I must say, I’m surprised at how understated he is. I mean, he didn’t photoshop in a swarthy man’s hand grabbing her shoulder or anything.
With time I’ll overlook the Kaine aspects that I don’t like. He is a staunch liberal, after all.
Ya know, didn’t trump have a Feherty interview on the Golf Channel recently?
Must have been extremely mundane, haven’t heard a word.
SAD
re: #104 Nyet
With time I’ll overlook the Kaine aspects that I don’t like. He is a staunch liberal, after all.
I’m not that happy with him either.
On the other hand I don’t exactly have to be, other factors motivate me. Still, not pleased that from my perspective this choice probably makes the race a little closer, which makes my volunteering efforts harder.
Whatever, fuck it, no point in crying.
My kit is in the coming down stage.
Not cool mom. Not cool at all.
Trump Model Management page for Romy van de Laar saved as archive link in case they try to scrub history as well. https://t.co/i8TGndEdkX
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 23, 2016
re: #107 Stanley Sea
My kit is in the coming down stage.
Not cool mom. Not cool at all.
But at least you get to experience being a drug dealer and all ;)
//
re: #109 Nyet
But at least you get to experience being a drug dealer and all ;)
//
Seriously. I’m an asshole. I dole out just a little, then hold when she wants more.
re: #98 KingKenrod
That photo of Romy van de Laar is pretty old - at least 2011 when she made it her Facebook profile pic.
So the internet says she was born in 1996…making her 14 or 15 in the photo (!).
They are coming to rape our young, blond, blue-eyed women and get them pregnant with little mulatto babies!!!
re: #110 Stanley Sea
Next time show us pics of the kit on the ‘nip ;)
re: #104 Nyet
With time I’ll overlook the Kaine aspects that I don’t like. He is a staunch liberal, after all.
Hillary needs someone to broaden her appeal. There are a lot of disillusioned Republicans out there looking for a reason not to support Donald Trump.
re: #112 Nyet
Next time show us pics of the kit on the ‘nip ;)
LOL. She’s all pert right now, staring at the ground. Druggie.
re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So far the campaign has been very professional, so if they think this helps, I’ll defer to them (even I have my doubts, which, I hope, will be proven wrong).
re: #115 Nyet
So far the campaign has been very professional, so if they think this helps, I’ll defer to them (even I have my doubts, which, I hope, will be proven wrong).
They are not going to win the campaign by appealing to hard-core Berniebots to change their minds…
re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They are not going to win the campaign by appealing to hard-core Berniebots to change their minds…
Ah fugged those, they’re voting for Stein and Trump.
re: #115 Nyet
So far the campaign has been very professional, so if they think this helps, I’ll defer to them (even I have my doubts, which, I hope, will be proven wrong).
This is the thing that makes me say yeah.
Professional, with the most research probably possible.
We trust Hillary.
re: #118 Stanley Sea
This is the thing that makes me say yeah.
Professional, with the most research probably possible.
We trust Hillary.
And this stands in stark, direct contrast to the Bizarro-world three-ring circus that is the Trump campaign.
re: #99 Nyet
Discussing whether Duke stole a photo or not is like discussing whether Saddam had a good taste in music…
I really don’t know what Duke’s game is in all this I guess. Is he 100% behind trying to help Trump win or (more likely in my opinion) is he just using Trump’s candidacy to further his own racist shitlord agenda? If it’s the latter then continuing to cling along like a remora hoping to feed on scraps makes sense. Still don’t get what picking a Trump model and then deleted the tweet when that news is about to break gets him, but apparently I wasn’t brought upon this earth to “get it.”
Kaine has enough good aspects to focus on to build up enthusiasm.
Not being Bernie is one of them ;)
re: #121 Nyet
First, qualified.
Second, optimistic and cheerful.
re: #99 Nyet
Discussing whether Duke stole a photo or not is like discussing whether Saddam had a good taste in music…
Like the whole discussion of who was responsible for the mass executions in Katyn in Poland.
Which was like when two crackheads break into a house, murder the entire family and later start arguing about which one of them strangled grandma…
re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Like the whole discussion of who was responsible for the mass executions in Katyn in Poland.
Which was like when two crackheads break into a house, murder the entire family and later start arguing about which one of them strangled grandma…
There’s a difference here, because one of those crackheads has been executed and is generally reviled, while the other one is praised in that city as an effective manager, so showing that he strangled the grandma (and other 100 or so grandmas) is important from the point of view of educating the public.
I think people are focusing way too much on the VP pick’s effect on 3 months of campaigning when the VP is being selected to serve in a role that lasts 4-8 years. The VP’s ability to generate enthusiasm is important, but isn’t nearly as important as how well they work with the President and how well they can step in and govern when needed.
re: #125 Nyet
There’s a difference here, because one of those crackheads has been executed and is generally reviled, while the other one is praised in that city as an effective manager, so showing that he strangled the grandma (and other 100 or so grandmas) is important from the point of view of educating the public.
I understand that aspect and why it was so important, especially during the Cold War.
And history has forgotten that the USSR also invaded Poland…they just snuck in the back door after the Nazi crackheads had kicked in the front door.
re: #126 No Depression
I speculate that lots of Rs of the variety that doesn’t like Trump will vote for him with a secret hope that he’ll get impeached and Pence becomes the President.
re: #128 Nyet
I speculate that lots of Rs of the variety that doesn’t like Trump will vote for him with a secret hope that he’ll get impeached and Pence becomes the President.
The “We can control him” mistake all over again?
re: #128 Nyet
I speculate that lots of Rs of the variety that doesn’t like Trump will vote for him with a secret hope that he’ll get impeached and Pence becomes the President.
So they’re buying a packet of baseball cards just to get the chewing gum?
re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So they’re buying a packet of baseball cards just to get the chewing gum?
Not only the baseball cards, but all the merch. Which is counterfeit.
re: #128 Nyet
I speculate that lots of Rs of the variety that doesn’t like Trump will vote for him with a secret hope that he’ll get impeached and Pence becomes the President.
I kinda doubt that many of them would want to go through the shame and conflict of the debates and votes in the House, followed by the very public trial in the Senate, to remove a Republican. That’s not likely to go well for them electorally in the future.
Shot, on the other hand - they might secretly wish for THAT, because then he’d be a martyr and a hero, and pushing through the parts of his agenda they agree with, while still being rid of him.
re: #128 Nyet
I speculate that lots of Rs of the variety that doesn’t like Trump will vote for him with a secret hope that he’ll get impeached and Pence becomes the President.
The others in that group are nihilists who just want to see Hillary Clinton go down no matter what. They don’t actually give a fuck if their policies remain unimplemented or if the world gets nuked into oblivion as long as that bitch stays out of the White House.
re: #129 Teukka
The “We can control him” mistake all over again?
McConnell and Cotton already said as much.
re: #133 No Depression
Lots of far-left in that last group…
watching the cleveland screamer try to justify, once again, his retweet of the comparison of his wife and ted cruz’s
(something that would cause me to uninvite anybody who did that from my house for life, with prejudice)
makes me realize how awfully tired i have become of watching this mentally ill man spew out his sickness on tee vee day after day
re: #136 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
makes me realize how awfully tired i have become of watching this mentally ill man spew out his sickness on tee vee day after day
Does anyone make you watch? ;)
I don’t watch TV and I’m happy with this.
anybody who can watch you know who and be enthusiastic about making him president must have some serious emotional disorder themself
re: #138 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
anybody who can watch you know who and be enthusiastic about making him president must have some serious emotional disorder themself
I like him because he’s not a politician!
No, he’s a salesman. How much do you like salesman?
re: #138 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
anybody who can watch you know who and be enthusiastic about making him president must have some serious emotional disorder themself
Thought same about those voting for Palin in 2008.
re: #137 Nyet
Does anyone make you watch? ;)
I don’t watch TV and I’m happy with this.
not only have i been a political junkie my entire life - i saw the nixon kennedy debate altho i was less than ten - but i am also mesmerized by the destruction of… what i’m not totally sure, but some part of america is surely being destroyed here
how can it be ignored?
re: #139 Blind Frog Belly White
I like him because he’s not a politician!
No, he’s a
salesmancheap con artist.
People are liking what they are seeing.
Trump pulls nearly even with Clinton after Republican convention: Reuters/Ipsos poll
re: #143 Nyet
People are liking what they are seeing.
the headline is misleading
losing by three points is not pulling even
but i dont discount for a minute that he could still win
Tim Kaine. Sigh. Trying to win votes from a middle that’s no longer there. Shows old political thinking. Trump picked VP to excite the base
— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) July 23, 2016
LOL I would say Trump failed in that regard. Methinks Mike is still sore about Bernie losing.
re: #144 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
the headline is misleading
losing by three points is not pulling even
but i dont discount for a minute that he could still win
Not misleading at all. 3 points are not meaningful when the uncertainty is 4 points.
Plus the small edge in polls is even less meaningful when you consider voter suppression…
Pokemon just got that much more appealing. pic.twitter.com/S96SpvnZFi
— The Irish Atheist (@Irish_Atheist) July 10, 2016
re: #144 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
the headline is misleading
losing by three points is not pulling even
but i dont discount for a minute that he could still win
Reuters/Ipsos had her ahead by 12 at a time when the average was ahead by 3. Several things could be going on.
One could be that the +12 was a wild outlier, the kind of thing that happens, and the +3 is getting back where everyone else is.
Another could be that the bias is baked into their poll, and Trump is actually 6 points ahead. That one seems unlikely, since it would literally be a swing of 9 points.
re: #149 Blind Frog Belly White
Reuters/Ipsos had her ahead by 12 at a time when the average was ahead by 3. Several things could be going on.
That is about the only horse race the media can hope for this year once the dust settles: Hillary will hold a commanding lead, but any time a poll shows DT inching up on her, it will become headline news.
re: #143 Nyet
Convention bounce. And not a very big one at that.
re: #107 Stanley Sea
My kit is in the coming down stage.
Not cool mom. Not cool at all.
It’s like accidentally smoking Cannabis Sativa when you meant to smoke Cannabis Indica to help you sleep.
re: #151 Dr Lizardo
Convention bounce. And not a very big one at that.
Exactly my point. Bounce = likey likey. Who likes Trump more after watching that shit show, really? Ugh.
Trump must have Leatherface’s and his family’s vote by now.
Re: the polls - it’s not even about who wins etc.
It’s knowing that about half of the voting American population are basically close to being sociopaths.
I really hope berniechildren won’t turn the Democratic convention into a shitshow with their “protests”.
re: #153 Nyet
Exactly my point. Bounce = likey likey. Who likes Trump more after watching that shit show, really? Ugh.
His fan base…they saw the candidate they voted for in the primaries.
re: #155 Nyet
Re: the polls - it’s not even about who wins etc.
It’s knowing that about half of the voting American population are basically close to being sociopaths.
People ion general and Americans especially like instant results: miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and they want to have their election results months in advance.
re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
His fan base…they saw the candidate they voted for in the primaries.
They already were “built-in” in the polls.
re: #153 Nyet
Exactly my point. Bounce = likey likey. Who likes Trump more after watching that shit show, really? Ugh.
We’ll just to wait and see what sort of post-convention bounce Hillary gets.
While I’m not saying Trump can’t - or won’t - win, I still think it’s more likely he’ll end up torpedoing his candidacy as a result of his team’s incompetence. For instance, as goddamnedfrank posted earlier, Trump is now apparently the subject of an FEC investigation.
re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
People ion general and Americans especially like instant results: miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and they want to have their election results months in advance.
Well, election is not about instant gratification. They should try erection instead.
re: #149 Blind Frog Belly White
Reuters/Ipsos had her ahead by 12 at a time when the average was ahead by 3. Several things could be going on.
One could be that the +12 was a wild outlier, the kind of thing that happens, and the +3 is getting back where everyone else is.
Another could be that the bias is baked into their poll, and Trump is actually 6 points ahead. That one seems unlikely, since it would literally be a swing of 9 points.
reuters/ipsos had her up by 4 a week ago. the one with her up 11 is from the beginning of july
so their two last polls show normal results
but i’ll wait to see more polls over the next two weeks or so to get a more complete picture
re: #156 Nyet
I really hope berniechildren won’t turn the Democratic convention into a shitshow with their “protests”.
I am pleased that the RNC came off without violence, but that will make it all the more sweet for them if there are tussles in or around the DNC.
re: #161 Nyet
Well, election is not about instant gratification. They should try erection instead.
That is available in pill form, Democracy is not.
re: #146 Nyet
Not misleading at all. 3 points are not meaningful when the uncertainty is 4 points.
uncertainty decreases when this is the average result of polls over three months
still, polls are just polls and it’s a long way to till the election
trump could be undercounted because many people might be ashamed to admit they want to vote for him. on the other hand, it’s equally plausible that hillary is undercounted in many parts of the country where people would be ashamed to admit they are voting for her
re: #165 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
National polls also matter less than state polls.
re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
People ion general and Americans especially like instant results: miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and they want to have their election results months in advance.
in america we’re not allowed to have the election until everybody is so sick and tired of the campaign that we’ll all die if it goes on for another minute
re: #166 Nyet
National polls also matter less than state polls.
if you go by state polls, trump is fucked
re: #168 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
I don’t know about that.
Anyway, here’s latest 538:
Hillary Clinton
58.7%
Donald Trump
41.3%
re: #169 Nyet
I don’t know about that.
Anyway, here’s latest 538:
Hillary Clinton
58.7%
Donald Trump
41.3%
yah i saw that actually i compulsively check all polling sites. check out his electoral college prediction at the top of that page. and nate’s electoral college prediction
is the most pessimistic one for democrats
basically trump needs to take ohio, florida, and pennsylvania to win
re: #169 Nyet
I don’t know about that.
Anyway, here’s latest 538:
Hillary Clinton
58.7%
Donald Trump
41.3%
here’s sabato’s
re: #171 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
here’s sabato’s
Looking at that, if Clinton takes OH, PA and FL on election night, then it’s pretty much all over for Trump.
re: #172 Dr Lizardo
Looking at that, if Clinton takes OH, PA and FL on election night, then it’s pretty much all over for Trump.
That’s always been the case.
re: #173 gwangung
That’s always been the case.
IIRC, President Obama won without the Deep South. He showed it could be done.
re: #174 Dr Lizardo
IIRC, President Obama won without the Deep South. He showed it could be done.
So did Lincoln…
I’ve seen Kaine on the Sunday morning talk shows a couple of times. I recall him as coming off as pretty level headed and someone that makes sense.
Maybe Moore is correct in that he isn’t going to excite the base but who really cares. Trumps insanity is hopefully doing the job of making the base and more realize it’s important to come out and vote against his brand of crazy.
I like that Hillary picked a smart person with a level head to be the person a heartbeat away. Someone that actually shares her sort of values. Shows deep thought/wisdom rather than picking some kind of side show freak that appeals to the same to get a minor bump.
I have little doubt Kaine will make Pence look the idiot he is in a debate.
I haven’t given up all hope that people in America will vote the sane option.
re: #176 Maxwell Not So Smart
I haven’t given up all hope that people in America will vote the sane option.
We did so in the past two elections. Barring some major catastrophe, Trump is likely to go down big-time.
re: #172 Dr Lizardo
Looking at that, if Clinton takes OH, PA and FL on election night, then it’s pretty much all over for Trump.
they will tell the tale
but elections have a way of surprising those of us who spend months mesmerized by the polls…
re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We did so in the past two elections. Barring some major catastrophe, Trump is likely to go down big-time.
Major catastrophes are weekly news by now.
re: #179 Nyet
Major catastrophes are weekly news by now.
That is the problem. And although DT is totally unqualified to be Preisident, he is a master of manipulating media to his ends…
re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There is no making sense out of things that don’t make sense. We can only guess at how DT has made it this far. Perhaps a bit from column A a bit from B etc.
I’m thinking the one thing that might stop him is that if he even keeps 3-4% of the GOP away from voting at least from voting for him that might be enough to give Hillary the edge she will need.
re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
re: #179 Nyet
Speaking of catastrophes - or at least, potential catastrophes - this happened in Argentina:
Residents of a city in southern Argentina got a scare when a series of powerful explosions shook homes and buildings Wednesday, but the cause turned out to be a natural wonder: a meteor disintegrating overhead.
It was an ordinary Wednesday afternoon in General Roca, a city of 85,000 people, when suddenly a series of loud blasts caused buildings to shake and windows to rattle.
Finally, scientists pieced together the reason: A meteor had entered the Earth’s atmosphere some 10,000 meters (33,000 feet) overhead, traveling at 2,400 kilometers (1,500 miles) per hour.
“It took everyone by surprise because it entered the atmosphere over an inhabited area. If it had fallen over the desert, the sea, Antarctica, we would never have known,” said astronomer Roberto Figueroa, head of the nearby Neuquen observatory.
He estimated the meteor measured about 12 meters in diameter before breaking into three fragments.
Reminiscent of the Chelyabinsk meteor.
Swung by my used to be favorite lefty gun Web site and read the whines about Kaine being pro-life, pro-banks & anti gun and how evil Hillary was forcing them to vote for Stein because both Hillary or Trump would equally horrible as president. SMH.
I have no humor left when it comes to the Busters. None whatsoever.
You will be remembered not just for the idealism you espoused, but for the horrors you were willing to condone, the lives you gambled with.
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) July 23, 2016
re: #184 goddamnedfrank
They’re worse than wingnuts because they’re supposed to know better.
re: #165 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
uncertainty decreases when this is the average result of polls over three months
still, polls are just polls and it’s a long way to till the election
trump could be undercounted because many people might be ashamed to admit they want to vote for him. on the other hand, it’s equally plausible that hillary is undercounted in many parts of the country where people would be ashamed to admit they are voting for her
Trump could also be undercounted because his voters aren’t considered “likely voters”. And I’m not convinced they’ve sorted out the problem of polling people who only use a cellphone.
Trying to decide at what degree self-deprecation and snark becomes weird in an ‘about me’ segment on a dating site.
Reminds me of Seinfeld: ‘At no point should they become aware of the authentic you.’
*shrugs*
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re: #145 No Depression
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LOL I would say Trump failed in that regard. Methinks Mike is still sore about Bernie losing.
WOW that’s incredibly wrong. He picked Pence to mollify the base. Palin and (to a lesser extent) Ryan were picked to excite the base. Pence was picked because Trump’s own religious right credentials are so fraudulent.
re: #188 jonhendry
WOW that’s incredibly wrong. He picked Pence to mollify the base. Palin and (to a lesser extent) Ryan were picked to excite the base. Pence was picked because Trump’s own religious right credentials are so fraudulent.
Thanks for formulating this so well.
re: #188 jonhendry
WOW that’s incredibly wrong. He picked Pence to mollify the base. Palin and (to a lesser extent) Ryan were picked to excite the base. Pence was picked because Trump’s own religious right credentials are so fraudulent.
Yeah, McCain picked Palin because he was essentially being blackmailed by the religious right. Romney picked Ryan to try to pick up the youth vote (Young! Smart! Brainy!) and Pence is definitely there to shore up Trump’s laughably dubious RR credentials.
re: #99 Nyet
Discussing whether Duke stole a photo or not is like discussing whether Saddam had a good taste in music…
The question is whether or not Trump sold the image to Duke to allow him to use it for political purposes. Yet another link of Trump to racists.
re: #191 Big Beautiful Door
The question is whether or not Trump sold the image to Duke to allow him to use it for political purposes. Yet another link of Trump to racists.
I missed this aspect, thanks.
re: #129 Teukka
The “We can control him” mistake all over again?
That is basically the line McConnell was pitching when he tried to reassure our allies that Trump wasn’t going to abandon NATO. The reality is that if Trump is elected President, the NATO security guarantee is a dead letter. The Baltic states now know it and Putin has probably know it ever since Manafort got on board the Trump campaign.
re: #156 Nyet
I really hope berniechildren won’t turn the Democratic convention into a shitshow with their “protests”.
A lot of Republicans are hoping they will due to these emails the Russians gave wikileaks.
re: #170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
yah i saw that actually i compulsively check all polling sites. check out his electoral college prediction at the top of that page. and nate’s electoral college prediction
is the most pessimistic one for democratsbasically trump needs to take ohio, florida, and pennsylvania to win
He has more than one route. If he wins all the Romney states, including NC, he gets exactly 270 if he adds Nevada, Iowa, Ohio, Florida, NH and Maine’s 2d congressional district. Pa and Va could individually substitute for some of those states or Florida, but Va just got harder for Trump to win with Kaine on the ticket. Another important point is that if Trump gets to 269, the election goes to the House of Representatives, controlled by the GOP.
Woke up to see my Romy van de Laar investigation gaining some traction.
Meanwhile, Trump Models has been investigated for H-1B abuse, and sued by a former model.
re: #187 Alyosha
Trying to decide at what degree self-deprecation and snark becomes weird in an ‘about me’ segment on a dating site.
Reminds me of Seinfeld: ‘At no point should they become aware of the authentic you.’
*shrugs*
Funny is good. Self-loathing probably not so much.
re: #194 Big Beautiful Door
OK, some of those are pretty bad, like going after Sanders’ beliefs. Not implemented, but bad.
re: #115 Nyet
So far the campaign has been very professional, so if they think this helps, I’ll defer to them (even I have my doubts, which, I hope, will be proven wrong).
Betting they did a lot of math.
More news about the Munich shootings:
Munich shooting: teenage gunman researched killing sprees but had no Isis links
re: #186 jonhendry
Trump could also be undercounted because his voters aren’t considered “likely voters”. And I’m not convinced they’ve sorted out the problem of polling people who only use a cellphone.
The polling available to the public is just not meaningful yet. Wish it were, because the HRC ‘nowcast’ on 538’s aggregate is the most (falsely) reassuring out there.
re: #196 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Woke up to see my Romy van de Laar investigation gaining some traction.
Meanwhile, Trump Models has been investigated for H-1B abuse, and sued by a former model.
If you look, you’ll probably find that Trump’s wetnurse has sued him.
re: #196 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Woke up to see my Romy van de Laar investigation gaining some traction.
Meanwhile, Trump Models has been investigated for H-1B abuse, and sued by a former model.
The first link is full of red flags, again the kind of stuff that sinks any ordinary campaign. The whole bit on importing beautiful kids to an in-house agency, keeping them indentured economically, then dating them, is skeevy as hell.
This isn’t any ordinary campaign.
Only thing the google picked up:
forums.carm.org
I keep seeing comments about “the base” of the Democratic Party.
In reference to Michael Moore’s butthurt, and the hardcore Berniac NeverHillary people, I am not sure they are the base or someone that the Democrats should be appealing to. As Nyet said, they are voting for Stein or Trump.
Pew does a Political Typology survey every few years. This is the latest one I found from 2014. You could spend a lot of time poring through it as it is rich in data.
Solid Liberals, who constitute 15% of the public and 17% of registered voters, are the anchor of the Democratic Party’s electoral coalition - the most avid and loyal voters, holding liberal views across nearly all issues.
But the party must rely on support from the other Democratically-oriented groups in the typology - the Faith and Family Left and Next Generation Left - to be successful. While each of these groups leans Democratic by wide margins, they diverge from across-the-board liberal thinking in a number of critical ways that have implications for their loyalty and turnout.
re: #205 Ming5000
I keep seeing comments about “the base” of the Democratic Party.
In reference to Michael Moore’s butthurt, and the hardcore Berniac NeverHillary people, I am not sure they are the base or someone that the Democrats should be appealing to. As Nyet said, they are voting for Stein or Trump.
Pew does a Political Typology survey every few years. This is the latest one I found from 2014. You could spend a lot of time poring through it as it is rich in data.
Great breakout. It looks like Next Generation Left are our problem children.
Here is another reason Tim Kaine may have been on the HRC radar. (and why the “base” is pouting).
Again from Pew 2014 Political Typology.
The battle is not for the left, but for the center leaning Democrats.
Solid Liberals and Faith and Family Left both polled at about 15% of the population in 2014.
re: #208 Decatur Deb
He once made a mistake of voting for Nader. He learned his lesson. Said as much. He may not have liked Kerry but he sure was all in for him.
re: #117 Nyet
Ah fugged those, they’re voting for Stein and Trump.
Nyet, I stand corrected regarding Moore. Too late to edit my comment. Apologies.
Also, we’ll prolly hear lots of silly stuff from Mikey on Hillary, but he doesn’t hate her.
THANK YOU HILLARY!!!!!!!! FLINT THANKS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONLY YOU MENTIONED IT!!!! AND U SPOKE THE TRUTH! BIGGEST APPLAUSE OF THE NIGHT!
— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) January 18, 2016
Where’s the House hearing into Hillary’s abuse of Flipboard, her misuse of Yelp, & her obsession with the Zippo Lighter App? Demand answers!
— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) July 6, 2016
A special congrats to Hillary for her victory in Mississippi on International Women’s Day. If you win the nomination we will be there w/ you
— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) March 9, 2016
I’ve always admired Hillary. I wrote a chapter once called “My Forbidden Love for Hillary.” Bernie just stands for more of what I believe.
— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) March 8, 2016
re: #200 Alephnaught
More news about the Munich shootings:
Munich shooting: teenage gunman researched killing sprees but had no Isis links
nonetheless, he was an immigrant, and therefore, if they had not let him in, etc…
/
Munich police chief Hubertus Andrae said there was an “obvious” link between the new attack and Friday’s fifth anniversary of Breivik’s attacks in Norway, when he murdered 77 people.
Interesting. We’ll see how this develops.
re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
son of immigrants…even worse: proof that they don’t integrate
/
He obviously wanted to!
Another video shows the gunman walking around alone on a flat roof before again opening fire. He can be heard shouting at the person filming, saying at one point, “I’m German”.
re: #218 Nyet
Another video shows the gunman walking around alone on a flat roof before again opening fire. He can be heard shouting at the person filming, saying at one point, “I’m German”.
He was practicing taqobell or whatever they call it when Mooslims lie to Christians…
/
“Are you asleep?”
No, I was in bed with the lights off for the last 4 hours as part of a cunning plan to trick you, but you caught me.— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 23, 2016
I suppose the hearsay testimony of his shouting Scheißausländer could be true… Some fucked up complexes there.
Let’s not forget Roosh, who’s of Iranian ancestry but hangs out with various neo-N altright types.
Nice to see you coordinating with Putin so well. Manafort is really earning his rubles. @realDonaldTrump
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 23, 2016
Just how offensive did Milo Yiannopoulos have to be to get banned from Twitter? https://t.co/DDrn0vWoSo
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 23, 2016
The article also talks about the Rage Furby and RS McCain, too.
Hispanic Outreach: @HillaryClinton has Spanish-speaking do-gooder who was a missionary in Honduras; Trump has Joe Arpaio…and a taco bowl.
— Ana Navarro (@ananavarro) July 23, 2016
re: #204 Dave In Austin
Only thing the google picked up:
forums.carm.org
I posted that after reading about it here.
Just posted this on FB. It’s not that I don’t care anymore. I care exactly enough. I wish everyone did. pic.twitter.com/Av9zCdSyJW
— James Morrison (@JamesPMorrison) July 23, 2016
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I get that some folks are upset that Hillary picked Kaine over say Booker or any number of other qualified picks.
Kaine gives Hillary an advantage in a key swing state of Virginia. He helps with Hispanics and has a strong record of fighting housing discrimination, which is something Trump repeatedly did at his housing complexes in NYC. Know who Trump discriminated against? Blacks. Know who Kaine helped while as a housing discrimination lawyer? Blacks.
I was surprised to see Hillary dip into the Senate for her VP pick, given how close things are there, but at the end of the day, the pick had to come from somewhere and Kaine is the best option for her given her vulnerabilities such as they are.
Democrats need to remember that winning the WH is just part of the big picture here. They have to retake the Senate at a minimum and close the gap in the House in order to minimize the obstructionism the GOP intends (and we all know what their intent is).
The RNC shows where the GOP truly believes its future is - with white supremacists, bigots, and extremists. The DNC will show its inclusiveness and it must cultivate its bench for future elections. That includes future presidential picks and leaders of the party going forward.
The RNC that just mercifully ended did none of that. It was nothing but a Trump show, and ignored that the conventions are typically where delegates get exposed to rising stars and new leaders emerge. That’s what we should expect with the DNC. And based on the slate of speakers, that’s what we’ll get.
It’s also telling that the only thing that the Trump campaign could say about Kaine is that he’s corrupt, based on fact that he’s never been indicted and doesn’t have the ethical lapses and mass lawsuits filed against him the way Trump does. Rather, Kaine’s issues arise in Virginia, which has among the most lax laws on campaign donations in the nation. If that’s your only real hot-take at the selection, you’re in trouble because it also shows a lack of oppo-research (compare to how Hillary body slammed Pence from the outset on multiple fronts).
Good morning Lizards.
Has the firebagger poutrage over a sane Kaine pick subsided any yet?
NPR had an article: 4 Reasons Why Progressives Aren’t Thrilled With Clinton’s Pick Of Kaine
1. He’s too nice
2. He’s too white
3. He’s too moderate
4. He’s too “safe”
Two groups are cited in the article:
Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC): No endorsement that I can see
Democracy for America (DFA): Endorsed Bernie and still has not endorsed Hillary
A quote from the article:
One important group — progressives and backers of Clinton’s former rival, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders — were not as pleased with the selection of the Virginia senator who has cultivated a reputation of working across the aisle over the course of his political career.
That’s so bad?
re: #233 jeffreyw
That really is food porn. I looked at that photo for far too long, moving from part to part imagining how it would taste.
re: #230 lawhawk
I was surprised to see Hillary dip into the Senate for her VP pick
It works out perfectly.
Long time Clinton friend Gov. McAuliffe gets to appoint Kaine’s replacement until the series of elections is held. It’s almost like she is doing her old friend a favor…..”That seat is f***ing golden!”
re: #232 Ming5000
NPR had an article: 4 Reasons Why Progressives Aren’t Thrilled With Clinton’s Pick Of Kaine
Two groups are cited in the article:
Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC): No endorsement that I can see
Democracy for America (DFA): Endorsed Bernie and still has not endorsed HillaryA quote from the article:
That’s so bad?
Divine Wind Progressives.
“@Theresa_Cali: @realDonaldTrump General Michael Flynn will make a great Secretary of Defense when you become POTUS! #MakeAmericaSafeAgain”
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 23, 2016
By law Flynn can’t be SecDef for 7 years after retiring. civilian control of the military. kind of important https://t.co/4MuQ6AZPla
— Ilan Goldenberg (@ilangoldenberg) July 23, 2016
re: #232 Ming5000
2. He’s too white
A Southern, white Republican is not exactly the future of the party. Not picking a woman or a minority also feels like a disappointment among base voters. Especially if they feel like women (Warren) and Latinos (Labor Secretary Tom Perez) were passed over for the white guy.
Someone remind me, who is at the top of the ticket?
4. He’s too “safe”
FFS. Hillary is NOT Trump looking to create a flashy, reality-show-based administration. She’s looking for someone to actually do the job, do it well, and could POTUS after she finishes. Like Obama, HRC is playing the long-game. She is playing chess while the dudebros and Trumpers are tic-tac-toe
re: #234 Ming5000
Needs moar jalapeno jelly, but that isn’t a breakfast stopper.
re: #237 Ming5000
Apt! Did you come up with that? I love it,
Almost went with Peshmerga Progressives for the alliteration, but the Peshmerga actually show up for the fight.
NO! NO! NO!
He’s a Radicalized Islamic Terrorist…
He doesn’t get to be labeled as a “troubled young man”…
Really, that’s reserved for white, christian folk…
RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORIST!!!
Munich gunman had book about Columbine and Virginia Tech killers https://t.co/T5StZ9MkeQ
— The Guardian (@guardian) July 23, 2016
I have sadz that some of my friends, very smart people, still have their wires crossed over Sanders. Ranting about the evil DNC wronging the will of ‘the people’ because they supported Clinton and not Sanders.
Jeebus, STFU already.
Pizza’s great!
— Andrea Grimes (@andreagrimes) July 23, 2016
BUT I WANTED TO GO TO THE CHEESECAKE FACTORY
re: #238 FormerDirtDart
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PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL APPOINT WHO HE WANTS, RULES BE DAMNED!!
re: #245 FormerDirtDart
Kaine = pineapple on pizza. The horror!
re: #247 SoundGuy 2016
Kaine = pineapple on pizza. The horror!
There’s a cored pineapple in my fridge. The core might wind up on franken-webered pizza.
Swineapple
re: #248 Decatur Deb
Smoked sausage or kielbasa and I’m in
re: #249 SoundGuy 2016
I would totally scarf that.
Gonna try one this week. The photograb below is a commercial variant of franken-weber much like mine.
re: #250 FormerDirtDart
Smoked sausage or kielbasa and I’m in
After the main cook we always throw on a half-yard of something for planned-overs.
re: #252 Decatur Deb
I hadn’t looked at the link, so didn’t know it was stuffed with rib meat…that sounds just about perfect.
The “Franken” in the original had me thinking it was stuffed with hot dogs. Thus, the sausage recommendation.
I did also think stuffing it with a pork tenderloin seemed tasty
The more I read about Kaine, I’ve come to realize that he answers one question: if something were to happen to Clinton in 2019, Kaine would be more than capable of stepping in and being president.
UPDATE: At least 60 are dead and more than 200 are wounded after ISIS bombed a demonstration march in Afghanistan https://t.co/l4cRVRaoT4
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) July 23, 2016
The more I look the more Kaine seems like a really good VP pick. Reading TL’s of Virginians with links to more info, he has a really solid record.
re: #253 FormerDirtDart
I hadn’t looked at the link, so didn’t know it was stuffed with rib meat…that sounds just about perfect.
The “Franken” in the original had me thinking it was stuffed with hot dogs. Thus, the sausage recommendation.
I did also think stuffing it with a pork tenderloin seemed tasty
The franken-webers are grills modified to try to reach 700-900 degree pizza temps. The best ones are home-made of refractory material, but wife got me a stainless version. Had the stone up to 550 so far.
re: #256 SoundGuy 2016
The more I look the more Kaine seems like a really good VP pick. Reading TL’s of Virginians with links to more info, he has a really solid record.
Just now paying attention to him. He’s starting to look better than HRC.
Unfortunately, the article linked doesn’t address the premise of the tweet
UPDATED: Munich gunman screamed anti-immigrant slogans before shooting: report https://t.co/UP078I2hD5 pic.twitter.com/l2aBwhRTnk
— The Hill (@thehill) July 22, 2016
re: #256 SoundGuy 2016
The more I look the more Kaine seems like a really good VP pick. Reading TL’s of Virginians with links to more info, he has a really solid record.
I didn’t know anything, but looking into it, it seems that he checks nearly every box that might be an advantage to Pence: Christian? check; Pro-life? check (but with caveat that he won’t try to change law); he’s fought housing discrimination, gave a 14-minute speech in Spanish in Congress on immigration reform; and when asked if being called “boring” was a criticism he said, “hey, ‘boring’ is the fastest-growing demographic in America.”
I like a guy who gets something done
Kaine SUCCESSFULLY took on NRA in a gun state, smoking in a tobacco state, climate change in a coal state. #ProgressiveWhoGetsResults
— Ronald Klain (@RonaldKlain) July 23, 2016
re: #230 lawhawk
Oh, Booker would have been much worse.
Virginia’s economy outperformed the U.S. when Democratic VP-pick Tim Kaine was the state’s governor https://t.co/VMMDnLAW22
— Capital Journal (@WSJPolitics) July 23, 2016
re: #260 Barefoot Grin
As John Cole pointed out yesterday, Kaine wouldn’t choose to have an abortion, but doesn’t think it’s the government’should job to make that decision. Or what we call pro-choice.
I don’t get the “boring” complaint against Kaine.
I guess I am from the lost generation of when we were supposed to elect people based upon their competence and worldviews as opposed to their entertainment factor.
A piece CNN asked me to write. “The danger of Trump’s NATO comments” (Opinion) - https://t.co/HigMEHpJ21 https://t.co/IYrSNoBZ1C
— Mark Hertling (@MarkHertling) July 22, 2016
re: #264 Belafon
As John Cole pointed out yesterday, Kaine wouldn’t choose to have an abortion, but doesn’t think it’s the government’should job to make that decision. Or what we call pro-choice.
In that respect, Tim Kaine is no different from my father who is pushing 70 and has been a Democratic voter his entire life. He doesn’t agree with abortion, but believes its a personal decision and doesn’t want the politicians making decisions for women.
re: #265 b.d.
I don’t get the “boring” complaint against Kaine.
“Boring” = not a firebrand like Warren or Sanders.
re: #265 b.d.
I don’t get the “boring” complaint against Kaine.
I guess I am from the lost generation of when we were supposed to elect people based upon their competence and worldviews as opposed to their entertainment factor.
THIS should be in bold and repeated daily.
re: #265 b.d.
I don’t get the “boring” complaint against Kaine.
I guess I am from the lost generation of when we were supposed to elect people based upon their competence and worldviews as opposed to their entertainment factor.
I quite agree; I suppose I’m of that lost generation as well.
WHEN DINOSAURS ROAMED THE EARTH!!
Can anyone make out what this means? and forgive to mistake on the first word in mine I just woke up and twitter doesn’t have a edit feature.
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClintcm) July 23, 2016
re: #271 Tigger2
Can anyone make out what this means? and forgive to mistake on the first word in mine I just woke up and twitter doesn’t have a edit feature.
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So, it seems David Duke deleted that tweet with the image of a Dutch model.
It seems @DrDavidDuke has deleted this tweet w portfolio image of Dutch model @Elite_amsterdam @Green_Footballs pic.twitter.com/ClYQi9K60m
— wheat-dogg (@liguy743) July 23, 2016
re: #268 Lidane
Whether he’s “boring” like Rockefeller Republicans, or “exciting” like Warren/Sanders, I don’t care, as long as he’s not “exciting” like Trump.
re: #271 Tigger2
Can anyone make out what this means? and forgive to mistake on the first word in mine I just woke up and twitter doesn’t have a edit feature.
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But yes, the meaning is clear and I agree.
re: #271 Tigger2
Can anyone make out what this means? and forgive to mistake on the first word in mine I just woke up and twitter doesn’t have a edit feature.
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Fake account. Ignore it
re: #272 b.d.
There’s a ‘c’ in place of the ‘o’ in Clinton. Plus, no check mark.
Edit: I will admit I have not sufficiently trained myself to look for the check mark when it comes to accounts like hers. I will have to get better at it.
“Are you allowed to set up a SuperPAC, Mike, if you are the president, to fight somebody?” [Pence shakes his head and mouths the word “no.”]
— Marc Andreessen (@pmarca) July 23, 2016
This is an actual exchange between Trump and Pence, in public, in front of reporters. https://t.co/xwFPXDJfGI https://t.co/NVvFnM47ap
— Marc Andreessen (@pmarca) July 23, 2016
New favorite phrase:
In case you were wondering if GOP insiders are still in a cranial rectal state. pic.twitter.com/Ua1nbxxPUX
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) July 22, 2016
“Cranial rectal state.”
re: #272 b.d.
fake account
Cool, Glad it is lol I don’t want hundreds of wingnut trolls coming after me.
re: #251 Decatur Deb
Gonna try one this week. The photograb below is a commercial variant of franken-weber much like mine.
I saw that a few weeks ago at Crate & Barrel and said to my wife we had room for a second grill. She agreed. Looking forward to making pizzas on it.
RS McCain, Chuck Johnson, Milo Y share a couple of things in common. For example, they were enemies of LGF. They were also banned from Twitter. I’m just sayin’.
re: #283 Nyet
They’re assholes. They have that in common.
re: #283 Nyet
8 white guys, 1 white woman, and an illegal alien. Talk about overrepresentation of white people in art.
I think Kaine’s a good pick…stable, honest, ethical…nice counter to Trump’s Pence pick…without the ultra-conservative freak shit.
I don’t think he should be used as an attack dog though. First, Hillary’s far better at it and seems to enjoy it as much as Trump does, and second, he was picked to bring an air of stability to the ticket. Elections aren’t about the VP pick anyway, Far better for people to look at him and just say, “Oh, that’s a nice back up.”
re: #286 Jayleia
8 white guys, 1 white woman, and an illegal alien. Talk about overrepresentation of white people in art.
How do you know that alien is illegal? Aren’t you being a little specist?
re: #287 darthstar
Agreed. I think Warren, Booker and others will tag team the attacks on Trump and Pence.
Kaine will handle some of the policy stuff to keep Hillary from sounding too wonkish (which has been a knock against her in the past).
Hillary’s got a lot wider group of supporters to go after the GOP. Trump’s extremism has only one flavor to choose from.
Clinton FAIL: She Picked Wrestler Tim Kaine As Her Running Mate
Just for a little LULZ.
re: #289 lawhawk
Agreed. I think Warren, Booker and others will tag team the attacks on Trump and Pence.
Kaine will handle some of the policy stuff to keep Hillary from sounding too wonkish (which has been a knock against her in the past).
Hillary’s got a lot wider group of supporters to go after the GOP. Trump’s extremism has only one flavor to choose from.
I thought about that as well. This could be the first presidential race where the main candidates attack each other while the VP picks debate policy. And it’s not that Hillary can’t debate policy, it’s just that you can’t debate policy with Donald Trump…not seriously.
Ah, the price of celebrity and the roles people lock themselves into.
Now it was the summer of Trump, the autum of Trump, the Christmas of Trump, it was everything, Trump said
.
Sound like the opening lines to A Tale of Two Trumpies.
re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I am pleased that the RNC came off without violence, but that will make it all the more sweet for them if there are tussles in or around the DNC.
Philadelphia has a good police force nowadays. They can handle the likely run of protestors at the DNC.
re: #293 Dark_Falcon
Philadelphia has a good police force nowadays. They can handle the likely run of protestors at the DNC.
You’re already salivating at the pictures, aren’t you?
Just in case it hasn’t been posted yet:
Munich gunman ‘had link to Anders Breivik’, Norway killer https://t.co/1o0rMxRoaP
— CuriousLurker (@CuriousLurker) July 23, 2016
Weird.
So Breivik inspired the Munich killer. Posed as a girl on Facebook to lure people to the location. Targeted immigrants.
re: #264 Belafon
More or less my position now.
But that is none of my business, as I am a male, and cannot get pregnant.
re: #294 Nyet
You’re already salivating at the pictures, aren’t you?
No. “Handle” means making sure protests stay peaceful if at all possible, and dispersing them with as little damage to persons and property as is practical if they turn violent.
Good policing also means figuring out (in advance in many cases) who the likely ‘riot tourists’ are and making sure they don’t cause trouble or are swiftly contained if they do.
Violence and riots are not things I want at the DNC, Sergey.
Interesting - endangered GOP Sen Toomey releases statement praising Tim Kaine
— Erica Werner (@ericawerner) July 23, 2016
re: #295 CuriousLurker
- Iranian descent, but, like Roosh, doesn’t mean can’t be a friend of the, ahem, “alt right”
- hearsay: “Scheißausländer!” (shitty foreigners)
- “I’m German!”
- Breivik anniversary
Might be a pattern there.
re: #232 Ming5000
As opposed to not working at all like Sanders has done in his 20+ years in Congress.
re: #296 GlutenFreeJesus
So Breivik inspired the Munich killer. Posed as a girl on Facebook to lure people to the location. Targeted immigrants.
He was Iranian-German, though and has was badly bullied in school. Seems far more like a school shooter-type using Brevik as a justification. Still a far-right asshole, though.
re: #297 Ziggy_TARDIS
Yeah, it’s hard to imagine what sort of twisted self-hate would make an immigrant identify with a white terrorist and kill other immigrants. I didn’t figure it was Da’esh inspired as they hate Shia, so an Iranian would be unlikely to be a fan.
That’s some serious bad crazy nonetheless. Sheesh—I wasn’t expecting that.
re: #305 CuriousLurker
There’s a certain amount of anti-Arabism among Iranians, I have heard…
Won’t be surprised if he turns out to be an AfD member.
As cynical as it sounds, I’m glad it doesn’t seem to have been an Islamist.
re: #307 Nyet
There’s a certain amount of anti-Arabism among Iranians, I have heard…
Yes, they hate Arabs. Not all of them do, but it’s pretty common. He might have thought his “Aryan” identity somehow made him closer to Breivik than his fellow immigrants.
Maybe his family will be able to tell police something.
re: #308 Nyet
Won’t be surprised if he turns out to be an AfD member.
What’s AfD? I’m drawing a blank.
re: #310 CuriousLurker
Yes, they hate Arabs. Not all of them do, but it’s pretty common. He might have thought his “Aryan” identity somehow made him closer to Breivik than his fellow immigrants.
Maybe his family will be able to tell police something.
The thing is, there are factions in the far alt-right across the western world which are just waiting for an excuse to go all Daeshbaggy on people.
*smh*
re: #303 Ziggy_TARDIS
As opposed to not working at all like Sanders has done in his 20+ years in Congress.
Nobody who supported Sanders wanted him to be her VP pick. I sure as hell didn’t. Bernie didn’t even want it. Kaine’s a good choice. Accept it.
re: #310 CuriousLurker
Yes, they hate Arabs. Not all of them do, but it’s pretty common. He might have thought his “Aryan” identity somehow made him closer to Breivik than his fellow immigrants.
Maybe his family will be able to tell police something.
Wasn’t Iran’s name change from Persia in the first place because the then n Shah was an Axis sympathizer.
re: #307 Nyet
Yeah, there’s quite a bit of that, though it isn’t nearly as bad as the Saudi or a few other nations Anti-Persian Sentiment.
Just to be sure: all of these are preliminary speculations. Take with a grain of salt.
re: #315 HappyWarrior
Wasn’t Iran’s name change from Persia in the first place because the then n Shah was an Axis sympathizer.
Could be, I don’t know he history of the name change. I read about it years ago, but I don’t remember for sure. What I do know is the guys raised during the Shah’s time were the most bigoted against Arabs. The Shah really pushed the Aryan thing and Aryan in Farsi—Aariaee—sounds very similar to Iran.
re: #318 CuriousLurker
Could be, I don’t know he history of the name change. I read about it years ago, but I don’t remember for sure. What I do know is the guys raised during the Shah’s time were the most bigoted against Arabs. The Shah really pushed the Aryan thing and Aryan in Farsi—Aariaee—sounds very similar to Iran.
Gotcha. I saw the dead listed- 3 Kosovars, 3 Turks, and 1 Greek. Man what a mess. So sick of mass shootings. So sick of them.
re: #316 Ziggy_TARDIS
Yeah, there’s quite a bit of that, though it isn’t nearly as bad as the Saudi or a few other nations Anti-Persian Sentiment.
Yeah, but it’s of a different type—the anti-Iranian bigotry is religious, while the anti-Arab bigotry is racial (regardless of what science says about race, I’m talking about the more common use of the word, like someone who hates Mexicans being racist).
re: #321 CuriousLurker
Yeah, but it’s of a different type—the anti-Iranian bigotry is religious, while the anti-Arab bigotry is racial (regardless of what science says about race, I’m talking about the more common use of the word, like someone who hates Mexicans being racist).
Perhaps that is redundant?
One could write “anti-Arab bigotry” and the word “bigotry” contains all the meaning necessary, without raising the confusion over the term “race”.
re: #321 CuriousLurker
Yeah, but it’s of a different type—the anti-Iranian bigotry is religious, while the anti-Arab bigotry is racial (regardless of what science says about race, I’m talking about the more common use of the word, like someone who hates Mexicans being racist).
The Anti-Iranian sentiment existing due to Iranians being predominately Shi’a right is what you mean by the religious basis i.e.a lot of Antisemitism?
This election will decide the Supreme Court, the health care of 20 million, the future of Medicare. https://t.co/1Rc04KwtSv
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) July 23, 2016
A lot of bigotry boils down to- This person is different from me and mine so I have a problem with him.
re: #322 freetoken
Perhaps that is redundant?
One could write “anti-Arab bigotry” and the word “bigotry” contains all the meaning necessary, without raising the confusion over the term “race”.
Just: “anti-Arab racism”.
re: #319 Nyet
Ali David Sonboly. What can we find out about him?
Sonbol means “hyacinth” in Farsi, so Sonboly/Sonboli would mean “of the hyacinth,” not that the meaning of the last name has anything to do with anything.
I finished DOOM.
Of course I didn’t get closure, the DOOM marine never gets a rest.
re: #327 CuriousLurker
Sonboly means “hyacinth” in Farsi, so Sonboly/Sonboli would mean “of the hyacinths,” not that the meaning of the last name has anything to do with anything.
To be more precise, “sonbol” means hyacinth. The “y” or “i” added to the end of a word or name means of or from or a member of that place or thing.
Lauretta said she heard the gunman say, “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is great” in Arabic.
“I know this because I’m Muslim. I hear this and I only cry,” she said.
‘You will get it.’
Hmm. Seems more like suggestion. In stress situation this happens. The weight of other evidence speaks against this.
So the Miami PD’s story is that they were trying to shoot the autistic man rather than the caregiver. Agh. That makes it so much better.
re: #330 CuriousLurker
Examples:
Shirazi = from the city of Shiraz
Afghani = of the Afghans or from Afghanistan
Bahranipour (a surname) = son of the sea
Some of the names are quite interesting when translated, like the word for “rabbit” when translated literally means “donkey ears” (khar gush). I nearly fell on the floor laughing the first time I heard that—kept thinking rabbits must really be pissed, “Who in the hell are you calling donkey ears, asshole??”
re: #335 Teukka
Also, card carrying Democrat.
It’s “Social Democrats” over in Germany, so make sure to add in “Socialist” and “Out and Proud Marxist” to the list.
re: #327 CuriousLurker
Sonboly means “hyacinth” in Farsi, so Sonboly/Sonboli would mean “of the hyacinths,” not that the meaning of the last name has anything to do with anything.
I worked with a Creole gal in Baytown TX by the name of Hyacinthia. Tall, slim woman that could cook up a storm. Would bring in crockpots of gumbo, red beans and rice, some of the best I have ever eaten. Don’t know how she stayed so slim.
re: #336 CuriousLurker
Typo corrected khan gush was supposed to be khar gush. Freaking iPad autocorrect bugs the hell out of me when typing foreign words/names.
re: #339 CuriousLurker
Typo corrected khan gush was supposed to be khar gush. Freaking iPad autocorrect bugs the hell out of me when typing foreign words/names.
I suppose you’ve seen the site “damn you autocorrect”?
re: #282 darthstar
I saw that a few weeks ago at Crate & Barrel and said to my wife we had room for a second grill. She agreed. Looking forward to making pizzas on it.
My variation doesn’t require a new grill—it’s just a stainless insert. The elevated temps on my old grill are a bit of a concern.
re: #332 HappyWarrior
So the Miami PD’s story is that they were trying to shoot the autistic man rather than the caregiver. Agh. That makes it so much better.
Cop who can’t think or shoot straight. Go to the head of the class.
re: #251 Decatur Deb
Gonna try one this week. The photograb below is a commercial variant of franken-weber much like mine.
I am heavily interested in getting a Pit Barrel Cooker. Not only is it Made in the USA, but they are a Colorado company.
re: #331 Nyet
Hmm. Seems more like suggestion. In stress situation this happens. The weight of other evidence speaks against this.
Whatever his reasons, this was one seriously messed up young man. It’s kind of sad that someone so young (also like the Afghani 17-year-old last week) could be so messed up psychologically. Extremists like Da’esh, Breivik, etc. seem to draw the mentally unstable like shit draws flies. And groups like Da’esh will happily use anyone.
re: #293 Dark_Falcon
Philadelphia has a good police force nowadays. They can handle the likely run of protestors at the DNC.
If not they’ll fall back on an air strike.
re: #340 Teukka
I suppose you’ve seen the site “damn you autocorrect”?
No, but now I’ll make a point to take a look this weekend. ;-)
Wikileaks is releasing SSN/CC card numbers but blaming the DNC for it because it’s ‘in the emails.’ Total douches.
Damn Google ads. They’ve made it just about impossible for me to post here today. Firefox does not like the scripts those ads try to run and things freeze up until Flash crashes. For now I’m just going to keep Flash off here until things can be fixed.
If Bill Clinton did this to Chelsea, House Republicans would already be holding hearings. pic.twitter.com/1d6LX8itTk
— (((Jeff Tiedrich))) (@jefftiedrich) July 22, 2016
re: #343 boredtechindenver
I am heavily interested in getting a Pit Barrel Cooker. Not only is it Made in the USA, but they are a Colorado company.
Big Black Drum—homegrown answer to the Big Green Egg.
This may already have been posted, but for those of you who think Kaine is boring, I give you Tim Kaine:
“I am boring,” the man Hillary Clinton picked on Friday night to be her running mate said last month on NBC’s “Meet The Press.”
The Virginia senator tried to play it off with something of a dad joke: “But boring is the fastest-growing demographic in this country,” he laughed.
So there you have it. Don’t want to miss the all important boring demographic.
re: #348 Dark_Falcon
Damn Google ads. They’ve made it just about impossible for me to post here today. Firefox does not like the scripts those ads try to run and things freeze up until Flash crashes. For now I’m just going to keep Flash off here until things can be fixed.
Flash is a plague that really needs to die.
re: #346 CuriousLurker
No, but now I’ll make a point to take a look this weekend. ;-)
Warning, you may spend more time and laugh more than you expected.
re: #307 Nyet
There’s a certain amount of anti-Arabism among Iranians, I have heard…
Try explaining that nuance to a lot of Trump supporters…
re: #350 Dr. Matt
Lannister and Targaryen family values there.
re: #311 CuriousLurker
What’s AfD? I’m drawing a blank.
Basically, the German Tea Party. But rather than taking over an established party like they did in the US, they have their own faction, that has gained seats in several state legislatures.
re: #353 SteelPH
Flash is a plague that really needs to die.
It underpins a lot of things, though. What do you suggest as a replacement?
re: #344 CuriousLurker
Whatever his reasons, this was one seriously messed up young man. It’s kind of sad that someone so young (also like the Afghani 17-year-old last week) could be so messed up psychologically. Extremists like Da’esh, Breivik, etc. seem to draw the mentally unstable like shit draws flies.And groups like Da’esh will happily use anyone.
Youth can be so impulsive also. A small thing/situation can look catastrophic to a mind that has limited experience to draw on. And add in someone to encourage them on it can turn tragic.
re: #358 Dark_Falcon
It underpins a lot of things, though. What do you suggest as a replacement?
I would suggest HTML5, CSS and Javascript.
re: #359 Eventual Carrion
Youth can be so impulsive also. A small thing/situation can look catastrophic to a mind that has limited experience to draw on. And add in someone to encourage them on it can turn tragic.
QFT
re: #352 calochortus
This may already have been posted, but for those of you who think Kaine is boring, I give you Tim Kaine:
So there you have it. Don’t want to miss the all important boring demographic.
I really think people will grow to like him as they get to know him. There’s a reason why he’s won three state wide elections here in Virginia since 2001 (We elect Lt Governor and AG independently of governor). Clinton didn’t need a progressive firebrand IMO.
re: #352 calochortus
This may already have been posted, but for those of you who think Kaine is boring, I give you Tim Kaine:
So there you have it. Don’t want to miss the all important boring demographic.
Boring is fine with me. I’d love heaps & heaps of boring after this election season.
The NRA has spent roughly $750,000 trying to defeat Tim Kaine in various elections. Another loss for them tonight. pic.twitter.com/QSgeHJcoms
— Tim Fullerton (@TimFullerton) July 23, 2016
re: #365 Tigger2
The NRA has spent roughly $750,000 trying to defeat Tim Kaine in various elections.
If that ain’t enough reason to support him, I don’t know what else is…
re: #364 CuriousLurker
Boring is fine with me. I’d love heaps & heaps of boring after this election season.
Me too. But then I was boring before boring was cool.
re: #364 CuriousLurker
Boring is fine with me. I’d love heaps & heaps of boring after this election season.
I just look at the 2008. Obama went smart and fairly safe with Biden, McCain with exciting and risky with Palin. I’m honestly pretty excited about this since I’ve actually met Kaine before.
re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Basically, the German Tea Party. But rather than taking over an established party like they did in the US, they have their own faction, that has gained seats in several state legislatures.
Different political culture: Single issue parties can get a lot more traction in Germany. In the United States, a group wanting to get its issue addressed normally must become part of one of the coalitions represented by the two major parties.
Buy an insulated electric smoker, preferably digital with an integrated meat thermometer. You can’t go wrong. Get the two year extended warranty and bring it back after two years for a new one too. “No questions asked!”
So besides re-tweeting white supremacists and stalkers, Lewandowski is also a full time Trump booster.
“Corey Lewandowski was great,” Mr. Trump said. “And he’s been very loyal, he’s been on CNN and he’s really been fighting for me, which is very nice, and I respect that.”
So CNN, this is what you’re paying this political hack $500,000 for? Have you no shame or ethics at all? Fire him, on air, today.
re: #372 Skip Intro
So besides re-tweeting white supremacists and stalkers, Lewandowski is also a full time Trump booster.
So CNN, this is what you’re paying this political hack $500,000 for? Have you no shame or ethics at all? Fire him, on air, today.
CNN wants to become FOX I guess without Jabba the Sexual Harasser.
Not sure mocking those Americans who are afraid of crime and terrorism will prove effective https://t.co/uT5zG2cvls
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) July 23, 2016
Seriously, Jake??
Yeah, let’s instead validate white people’s fear of black and brown people.
re: #374 Jenner7
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Seriously, Jake??
Yeah, let’s instead validate white people’s fear of black and brown people.
To be honest, some people’s fear of crime and terrorism SHOULD be mocked. Like the idiots who need to show up armed and ready at the grocery store.
re: #374 Jenner7
Or mocking Bernie supporters will get them back into the fold.
re: #374 Jenner7
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Seriously, Jake??
Yeah, let’s instead validate white people’s fear of black and brown people.
@jaketapper When did America quit being the home of the brave.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) July 23, 2016
re: #336 CuriousLurker
Examples:
Shirazi = from the city of Shiraz
Afghani = of the Afghans or from Afghanistan
Bahranipour (a surname) = son of the seaSome of the names are quite interesting when translated, like the word for “rabbit” when translated literally means “donkey ears” (khar gush). I nearly fell on the floor laughing the first time I heard that—kept thinking rabbits must really be pissed, “Who in the hell are you calling donkey ears, asshole??”
Just to be clear, this is not the notorious Jackalope we hear so much about, right?
re: #336 CuriousLurker
Examples:
Shirazi = from the city of Shiraz
Afghani = of the Afghans or from Afghanistan
Bahranipour (a surname) = son of the seaSome of the names are quite interesting when translated, like the word for “rabbit” when translated literally means “donkey ears” (khar gush). I nearly fell on the floor laughing the first time I heard that—kept thinking rabbits must really be pissed, “Who in the hell are you calling donkey ears, asshole??”
Just like the Germans calling a turtle a Schildkröte - literally a “shielded toad”.
Worrying about your and your family’s safety is fine but when you have people like that one professor of Mathematics who actually had to be removed from a plane, that’s part of the problem.
re: #374 Jenner7
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Seriously, Jake??
Yeah, let’s instead validate white people’s fear of black and brown people.
Yeah, seriously. The most probable effect of mocking such people is that they will move further into Donald Trump’s orbit.
re: #348 Dark_Falcon
Damn Google ads. They’ve made it just about impossible for me to post here today. Firefox does not like the scripts those ads try to run and things freeze up until Flash crashes. For now I’m just going to keep Flash off here until things can be fixed.
Do what I do - go to Task Manager and end the process for Flash. Once it crashes, the site hums merrily along.
Firefox does have a Task Manager, right? I use the one in Chrome.
Great. I’m right in the middle of a severe thunderstorm warning. It’s not quite pitch black outside, but it looks like 9:30 at night. Hope I don’t lose power or trees.
David Duke is running for senate. The campaign poster on the left is his. #DavidDuke #AmericaFirst #shudder pic.twitter.com/XjGPViDut0
— Lisa Wade, PhD (@lisawade) July 23, 2016
re: #385 stpaulbear
Great. I’m right in the middle of a severe thunderstorm warning. It’s not quite pitch black outside, but it looks like 9:30 at night. Hope I don’t lose power or trees.
there have been thunderstorm warnings here on the Rhine all day…so far we had just enough drizzle to make it even more muggy
re: #384 makeitstop
Do what I do - go to Task Manager and end the process for Flash. Once it crashes, the site hums merrily along.
Firefox does have a Task Manager, right? I use the one in Chrome.
The task manager is part of Windows, or at least that’s the task manager I use.
re: #386 Dr. Matt
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Lovely day in Half Moon Bay…humbacks are gone, but it’s still pretty out there. pic.twitter.com/NlTAw3fV5j
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 23, 2016
re: #389 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We established that the model in the ad was all of 14 or 15 at the time
I wouldn’t doubt both of them are.
Is it wrong to want David Duke’s latest political campaign to end with him becoming a meal for one of Louisiana’s many alligators?
re: #386 Dr. Matt
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I’ll just say it here but when Duke eventually does die. I won’t care or have any sympathy for his family. The guy is a racist bastard who has made a pretty penny scaring older whites that their grandchildren may have to mingle with people who look different from them and I also have a Hispanic niece too so it’s personal.
re: #293 Dark_Falcon
Philadelphia has a good police force nowadays. They can handle the likely run of protestors at the DNC.
You’re back!!
We’ve been wondering what you’d say about the RNC. Still wondering.
re: #379 Barefoot Grin
Just to be clear, this is not the notorious Jackalope we hear so much about, right?
LOLOLOL
re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Just like the Germans calling a turtle a Schildkröte - literally a “shielded toad”.
LOL
I have to admit that some of ours prolly sound funny to foreign ears, like sea lion.
re: #386 Dr. Matt
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The level of cognitive dissonance some people live with is staggering. Western Civilization is superior to all others and is a delicate flower which must be protected carefully.
See also: Obama is a weak, feckless, tyrant who will destroy us all.
OK. The storm has supposedly arrived (per nexrad, which is usually dead accurate for my location) but there is absolutely no wind and very little rain. This makes me even more nervous. It’s still dark as night outside.
re: #402 stpaulbear
OK. The storm has supposedly arrived (per nexrad, which is usually dead accurate for my location) but there is absolutely no wind and very little rain. This makes me even more nervous. It’s still dark as night outside.
Stay close to your basement door…
re: #400 CuriousLurker
LOL
I have to admit that some of ours prolly sound funny to foreign ears, like sea lion.
My German sister-in-law laughed at ‘Blue Spruce’ but admired the tree.
re: #396 sagehen
You’re back!!
We’ve been wondering what you’d say about the RNC. Still wondering.
I avoided watching the RNC, as I will avoid watching the DNC. Both are celebrations of serial liars with whom I do not identify politically.
re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Just like the Germans calling a turtle a Schildkröte - literally a “shielded toad”.
I used a German-English dictionary once with funny results. After frantically looking up the word for ‘bill’, I asked the waitress, “Kan ich bitter einer schnabel haben?” (Don’t judge my German spelling)…she laughed at me and made a duck face.
re: #401 calochortus
The level of cognitive dissonance some people live with is staggering. Western Civilization is superior to all others and is a delicate flower which must be protected carefully.
Western civilization used to be threatened by hordes of barbarians. Then it developed superior technology and went off and conquered & colonized most of them…
re: #391 Dr. Matt
I wouldn’t doubt both of them are.
Nice clear message, too. Make me want to reply with
re: #395 darthstar
Banjo got photobombed by a sea lion.
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At least it wasn’t a shark fin. Great White sharks love to eat sea lions.
re: #342 Decatur Deb
Cop who can’t think or shoot straight. Go to the head of the class.
Every police department has a couple of officers who barely squeaked through the Academy. Who even after a few years on the job and supplemental training still aren’t very good at it. Every department knows who they are. All the other officers in the department (or at least the ones in their precinct, if it’s a big department) know who they are.
It’d be good if the union helped remove them. It would improve the entire department, and make life easier on all the other officers.
re: #409 Dark_Falcon
At least it wasn’t a shark fin. Great White sharks love to eat sea lions.
There was a shark siting up the road a few miles yesterday. The Great Whites breed at the Farralon Islands about 20 miles off shore. If you want to see them, that’s where you should go.
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 23, 2016
re: #405 Dark_Falcon
I avoided watching the RNC, as I will avoid watching the DNC. Both are celebrations of serial liars with whom I do not identify politically.
Maybe you can wish it all away.
re: #388 Dark_Falcon
The task manager is part of Windows, or at least that’s the task manager I use.
Chrome has an internal one that works on the processes running within the browser.
re: #412 Kragar
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Oh I see the MRAs are seeing what women have dealt with in film characters for decades now. Tough for them.
re: #412 Kragar
I’ve been called eye candy…eye candy that’s partially eaten and accidentally coughed up and found its way behind the cushion on the couch for six months…but eye candy.
re: #411 darthstar
There was a shark siting up the road a few miles yesterday. The Great Whites breed at the Farralon Islands about 20 miles off shore. If you want to see them, that’s where you should go.
Thanks for the info.
re: #410 sagehen
Every police department has a couple of officers who barely squeaked through the Academy. Who even after a few years on the job and supplemental training still aren’t very good at it. Every department knows who they are. All the other officers in the department (or at least the ones in their precinct, if it’s a big department) know who they are.
It’d be good if the union helped remove them. It would improve the entire department, and make life easier on all the other officers.
That’s what the probationary concept is for. Labor relations in this country are fundamentally an adversarial model, and it’s asking a lot for a union to cut its members off at the knee. If both unions and management are competent in their roles, the system (usually) works.
I am watching Newsroom again and am reminded that Trump is a direct result of the Tea Party.
re: #411 darthstar
There was a shark siting up the road a few miles yesterday. The Great Whites breed at the Farralon Islands about 20 miles off shore. If you want to see them, that’s where you should go.
Whoa you got sharks on the ROAD? Tough neighborhood.
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OT but why the heck not?
I remember my grandma saying “I really want to see that warehouse movie!” https://t.co/iDXTS0lDrU
— J. Elvis Weinstein (@JElvisWeinstein) July 23, 2016
🎬’The Best Little Whorehouse In Texas’ premiered in theaters 34 years ago today, July 23, 1982 pic.twitter.com/qfuykvWyCZ
— RetroNewsNow (@RetroNewsNow) July 23, 2016
re: #403 calochortus
Stay close to your basement door…
I’m about 10’ away from the basement door and I’ve got ‘CCO on the radio. They’re the go-to station for severe weather. They have a cooking show on right now so this may not be as bad as it looks on WeatherUnderground. Wind is kicking up but not severe.
Hoping this is the Ben Carson speech of severe storms.
re: #421 Great White Snark
Whoa you got sharks on the ROAD? Tough neighborhood.
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Up the road, not on the road. Up the coast is probably more accurate I suppose.
re: #421 Great White Snark
Whoa you got sharks on the ROAD? Tough neighborhood.
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Well, after that big Sharknado dropped a bunch of Makos and Great Whites all over the place last month……
re: #407 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Western civilization used to be threatened by hordes of barbarians. Then it developed superior technology and went off and conquered & colonized most of them…
On that note, here’s a US Army video from Ft. Benning showing a firepower demo from the Army’s 30mm cannons. The turret and cannon on the 8-wheeled LAV are the same as will be installed in many of the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment’s Strykers. Keep an ear open for some refreshingly aggressive rhetoric from LTG H.R. McMaster near the end:
re: #426 Blind Frog Belly White
Well, after that big Sharknado dropped a bunch of Makos and Great Whites all over the place last month……
It was raining catfish and dogfish!
It looks like we had a light snowfall overnight. White stuff all over everything. But that’s not snow in July in Los Angeles. Ash fall from the Sage fire. Red sunrise today. Evacuations in Little Tujunga canyon.
KHTgWeA+8TkO9XIRL0L3Xins62S04uQRbA1vtg1fj9Hx9wKbWoWcD9GCNLnfZb+oW75oPmhvVkaz55T9CB3j3sLIO2i+dP4T/LdBa+Z2eISMZgCHgWn2w3I/6hOn63XfFx8mn3MqgVZ50UzypZoG6WXXEEthHDNtor5wmQEzNnLaVIXsitYiGDsZlA/lniOJ7CxFYybvc+/4fOQxaRt72IrF232Q/AiM/xVB4u/MG+TOJf9yvurRaro38yaq9YSd38dvyEYADDKA+j+MhZL57Ndqyo3isKESK9SYGNwJxNDsijtr1Zc0U0iJX0dfqDncaYj1pAzyixn7VB15NiCZYue7f/rUlm7NGaQC0YR7hCECP4DucZEmEJPMNl1Vpc5LUZI3uOBPlagv6mXfCCsdDx3fjaNYq044SAey5S7Zoi2mnrFZbM1Pmg==
re: #422 De Kolta Chair
OT but why the heck not?
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Heh one of my older cousins was telling me about how my grandparents took him and his sister to see Jaws against my aunt and uncle’s permission and they also told him that they saw the Exorcist together as a couple and that they both found it amusing. That amuses me just thinking about it since my grandmother was a sweet, little old lad and imaging her laughing at Regan saying “Fuck me” amuses me.
re: #429 Great White Snark
It looks like we had a light snowfall overnight. White stuff all over everything. But that’s not snow in July in Los Angeles. Ash fall from the Sage fire. Red sunrise today. Evacuations in Little Tujunga canyon.
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Like the ammo storage on an M1 Abrams. Very Cool.
re: #423 stpaulbear
I’m about 10’ away from the basement door and I’ve got ‘CCO on the radio. They’re the go-to station for severe weather. They have a cooking show on right now so this may not be as bad as it looks on WeatherUnderground. Wind is kicking up but not severe.
Hoping this is the Ben Carson speech of severe storms.
A trick I learned here on the west coast, some of those radar sites let you look at different radar angles, or azumith. Might help you see any rotation in the radar trace. .
Your Tim Kaine jokes are all well & good but he’s the reason you can buy booze on a Sunday in Virginia so he has my enthusiastic endorsement
— alicia cougar (@aliciacamden) July 23, 2016
Anybody catch Hillary’s speech yesterday afternoon? (He naively asked a bunch of politics junkies) I thought it put to rest once and for all the cliché that she can’t “project her feelings,” or whatever the pundits call it.
re: #407 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Western civilization used to be threatened by hordes of barbarians. Then it developed superior technology and went off and conquered & colonized most of them…
And now they’re back with low-tech weapons and diabolical strategies, wreaking fear & political upheaval across the Western world.
re: #433 darthstar
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I actually didn’t know that. I turned 21 his last full year as governor. He’s not prude though while religious.
re: #435 De Kolta Chair
Did anybody catch Hillary’s speech yesterday afternoon? I thought it put to rest once and for all the cliché that she can’t “project her feelings,” or whatever the pundits call it.
I missed it. I’ll have to look for it on YouTube later.
Tim Kaine is a mainstream Democrat across three ideological measures. https://t.co/JMy3Ky5MPA pic.twitter.com/n3JXqXIpj3
— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) July 23, 2016
Ambassador Chris Stevens’s mom writes letter to NYT, objects to Trump using his name for “cynical” political gain: pic.twitter.com/J9ycWA5DD6
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) July 23, 2016
Western Civilization gave us democracy, the scientific method, great advances in our ability to feed and house people and make their lives comfortable, freedom of expression, medicines which actually work and save millions of lives daily, the most efficient devices for killing other human beings ever devised, heritable enslavement of other people based on skin color, the most ruthlessly efficient genocide in the history of the world, the deadliest wars in the history of the world, fascism, totalitarianism, institutionalized racism, the ability to destroy all life on earth in a matter of weeks, the ability to undo 10 thousand years of climatic stability that allowed us to flourish, and the ability to fool ourselves into thinking it’s not happening and/or not our fault.
I’d say rather than PRESERVING Western Civilization, maybe we ought to fucking FIX Western Civilization.
re: #442 Blind Frog Belly White
Western Civilization gave us democracy, the scientific method, great advances in our ability to feed and house people and make their lives comfortable, freedom of expression, medicines which actually work and save millions of lives daily, the most efficient devices for killing other human beings ever devised, heritable enslavement of other people based on skin color, the most ruthlessly efficient genocide in the history of the world, the deadliest wars in the history of the world, fascism, totalitarianism, institutionalized racism, the ability to destroy all life on earth in a matter of weeks, the ability to undo 10 thousand years of climatic stability that allowed us to flourish, and the ability to fool ourselves into thinking it’s not happening and/or not our fault.
I’d say rather than PRESERVING Western Civilization, maybe we ought to fucking FIX Western Civilization.
My brother made a nice point on the phone the other night. “No, don’t make America great again, make America great.” The point being is we haven’t fulfilled al ot of our promise.
re: #423 stpaulbear
My NOAA weather radio kicked off a few hours ago with a Severe Thunderstorm warning. Getting heavy rain and thunder. Some of the booms are pretty visceral-feeling up my way. I just looked at my radio and the warning indicator is off, yet the booms are still intense. At least my cable modem/router are on a 3 kVA battery backup just in case…
Jeff Weaver responds to email leaks — proves DNC wasn’t neutral, “@DWStweets is clearly a force for disunity in the party, not unity.”
— Chris Megerian (@ChrisMegerian) July 23, 2016
So much so, that DWS has the support of Obama.
I get the hate for DWS, but she’s not the reason Hillary won. Bernie had the money to beat Hillary, but his campaign SUCKED, period.
There is no disunity in the party.
re: #440 Jenner7
Ambassador Chris Stevens’s mom writes letter to NYT, objects to Trump using his name for “cynical” political gain:
I’m sure Trump will pay every bit as much attention to that request as he paid to Brian May’s request that Queen’s music not be used at the GOP convention.
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re: #432 Great White Snark
A trick I learned here on the west coast, some of those radar sites let you look at different radar angles, or azumith. Might help you see any rotation in the radar trace. .
I’ll check and see if there’s a box for that at WU. It looks like the warning for my area has expired. Not enough rain to even run off the streets. Time to open up the windows and stop boring everyone with my weather anxieties.
re: #450 stpaulbear
I’ll check and see if there’s a box for that at WU. It looks like the warning for my area has expired. Not enough rain to even run off the streets. Time to open up the windows and stop boring everyone with my weather anxieties.
There’s still some storm activity out my way, but I didn’t hear or see anything serious in this direction.
re: #446 darthstar
I watched that on mute and just read the French subtitles as my wife was talking to her mom on the phone. I’m almost afraid to play it with sound.
It was better with the sound off.
re: #343 boredtechindenver
I am heavily interested in getting a Pit Barrel Cooker. Not only is it Made in the USA, but they are a Colorado company.
I have one and LOVE it. Totally worth the $$$. Got mine through Amazon though since I had tons of points/gift cards. I wouldn’t have hesitated paying full price though.
re: #448 Jenner7
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So much so, that DWS has the support of Obama.
I get the hate for DWS, but she’s not the reason Hillary won. Bernie had the money to beat Hillary, but his campaign SUCKED, period.
There is no disunity in the party.
I’ll play devil’s advocate here but with the shit the Sanders campaign constantly said about the DNC and Dem establishment, they really have no right to be upset that there wasn’t some blowback their way. I see some of the Sanders diehards I know crying about how the DNC views them but they admit that they view the DNC with contempt so is it any wonder that the feeling is well mutual. I’m no fan of DWS but Clinton beat Sanders because Bernie really had no idea how to run a truly national campaign. Bernie’s campaign failures lay squarely with Bernie, Weaver, and DeVine.
re: #318 CuriousLurker
Could be, I don’t know he history of the name change. I read about it years ago, but I don’t remember for sure. What I do know is the guys raised during the Shah’s time were the most bigoted against Arabs. The Shah really pushed the Aryan thing and Aryan in Farsi—Aariaee—sounds very similar to Iran.
“Aryan” is what the Indo-European-speaking invaders of India called themselves in Sanskrit—the “bright” or “shining” ones. The Persian Great Kings used “Aryan” as a complimentary epithet for themselves. “Iran” is the same word—as is “Eireann” or “Erin” for Ireland. Goes way back in the Indo-European family,
re: #439 Tigger2
If Sanders hadn’t run in the primaries would there be this obsession with Kaine’s “ideology”?
re: #455 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
“Aryan” is what the Indo-European-speaking invaders of India called themselves in Sanskrit—the “bright” or “shining” ones. The Persian Great Kings used “Aryan” as a complimentary epithet for themselves. “Iran” is the same word—as is “Eireann” or “Erin” for Ireland. Goes way back in the Indo-European family,
Didn’t know that, thanks for the info.
Are mass shootings contagious? Some scientists who study how viruses spread say yes.
re: #448 Jenner7
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So much so, that DWS has the support of Obama.
I get the hate for DWS, but she’s not the reason Hillary won. Bernie had the money to beat Hillary, but his campaign SUCKED, period.
There is no disunity in the party.
He came pretty close for having a campaign that sucked. He was at 3% last summer and nobody took him seriously until late February.
That said, Hillary could have beat him without the DWS/DNC alliance…all this does is make the historical first female candidate’s nomination look like it may have been achieved less than honorably. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, as we have learned in US politics, it’s all about appearance. At the end of the day it’ll be an asterisk, like the one people see in their minds when they look at Barry Bonds home run record…oh, he doped…so the fuck what? He hit the ball well. The DNC rigged what they could! So what. She won. Get over it. I’m not losing any sleep over this. It’s all par for the course.
re: #456 De Kolta Chair
If Sanders hadn’t run in the primaries would there be this obsession with Kaine’s ideology?
I kind of doubt it, but then I’m more or less a mainstream Dem.
re: #446 darthstar
I watched that on mute and just read the French subtitles as my wife was talking to her mom on the phone. I’m almost afraid to play it with sound.
How’s MIL’s new place? She all settled in?
re: #447 Eric The Fruit Bat
My NOAA weather radio kicked off a few hours ago with a Sever Thunderstorm warning. Getting heavy rain and thunder. Some of the booms are pretty visceral-feeling up my way.
Best of luck. Hope you don’t get any damaging winds.
re: #460 darthstar
He came pretty close for having a campaign that sucked. He was at 3% last summer and nobody took him seriously until late February.
Which is part of my reason why I’m annoyed with how he ran his campaign. Had hold of some winning issues, but couldn’t take advantage of them, DNC or no.
re: #456 De Kolta Chair
If Sanders hadn’t run in the primaries would there be this obsession with Kaine’s ideology?
I think there may be some. Thing is I think it’s more bitterness over who chose him. If Bernie had won and chose him, they’d use it as an argument that Bernie despite being far left is open to other mindsets within the party. The thing I see with many internet progressives- I’m not talking about Lizardom here but most of them I think live in an ideological bubble which is why they had such a hard time accepting that Clinton beat Sanders and don’t even bother getting them to understand why some people may not think Bernie is the best thing since sliced bread. They just see voting records and think that’s how you nominate the best candidates. They totally ignore that Clinton has a great team behind her while Bernie’s was limited.
re: #383 Dark_Falcon
Their orbit has already taken them below the event horizon of derp and they’ve emerged into a separate reality. They can’t get any closer.
re: #360 Teukka
I would suggest HTML5, CSS and Javascript.
I’ve got Flash blocked—it’s the incredible amount of Javascript on this site that keeps my CPU running over 100%, my fan at 6000 rpm, crashes Firefox constantly, and makes scrolling down like pulling hens’ teeth.
re: #459 Eric The Fruit Bat
Are mass shootings contagious? Some scientists who study how viruses spread say yes.
In my mind, the most worrisome thing is the possibility of radical Western far-right groups adopting the tactics of the jihadis and morphing into something I don’t even want to think about.
re: #407 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Western civilization used to be threatened by hordes of barbarians. Then it developed superior technology and went off and conquered & colonized most of them…
And now the barbarians live among us, as the recent confab in Cleveland showed us.
re: #470 Romantic Heretic
And now the barbarians live among us, as the recent confab in Cleveland showed us.
Oh, but both parties are totally the same.
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Bernie did a nice job. I just can’t help but to think though that so many of his supporters and I include one of my own brothers in this don’t understand what this position he ran for actually entails. I think they wanted someone that would radically change the Democratic Party’s ideology. Bernie’s slogan was “Not Me but Us” but ironically I saw lot of meism and that was exampified by the Bernie or Busters. I hate to say it but those who want a more lefty Democratic party really need to look at what happened with the Religious Right and the GOP. They didn’t just start off with their choice of President. They literally built the Republican party from a respectable center right party to the shithole it is today and they did it by running candidates from the ground up. So if you want a progressive Democratic party, run candidates for local offices. If I learned anything dealing with politics in college, it was how vital local politics is. Tip O’Neill was right about that. It’s too bad that many on the left don’t get that.
re: #462 Stanley Sea
How’s MIL’s new place? She all settled in?
She’s 95% there. Still waiting for a couple of pieces of new furniture that she bought, but the place looks great! And she’s loving it. She’s started signing up for activities, and we were going to ask her if she wanted to have dinner with us tonight but she already has plans! That’s just awesome.
I went by after work the other day to wall mount her TV for her and we had dinner. They have a dress code in the dining room - you have to wear a jacket - so tomorrow I’ll drop a jacket by and leave it with her since the loaner jacket they gave me was two sizes too small and I looked goofy as hell at dinner. Could barely reach my mouth with a fork the thing was so tight.
re: #470 Romantic Heretic
And now the barbarians live among us, as the recent confab in Cleveland showed us.
Barbarians at the gates? Hardly. We threw the gates wide open and let the barbarians in. And this is the thanks we get.
re: #469 CuriousLurker
In my mind, the most worrisome thing is the possibility of radical Western far-right groups adopting the tactics of the jihadis and morphing into something I don’t even want to think about.
It was groups like Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad that adopted the suicide bomber tactics of the Tamil Tigers and after some considerable theological “interpretation” (cough!), created the “martyrdom” attacks we see today.
re: #469 CuriousLurker
In my mind, the most worrisome thing is the possibility of radical Western far-right groups adopting the tactics of the jihadis and morphing into something I don’t even want to think about.
Yeah I kind of do get nervous at the thought of what may happen when they realize they share a lot of the same hatreds. And before I get told that’s nuts, I did read that an American Neo-Nazi type by the name of August Kreis did apparently try to reach out to Al Queda for an alliance.
en.wikipedia.org
re: #440 Jenner7
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Benghazi was in the news for current reasons as well this week:
Islamist slimebags shot down an Libyan National Army (LNA) Mi-17 transport helo near Benghazi, killing three French Spec-ops troopers in addition to their LNA liaison and the helo’s crew. The Islamists followed that up by murdering 14 civilians in Benghazi and handing their bodies over to the city’s main hospital (which has been under LNA control since March).
re: #473 darthstar
She’s 95% there. Still waiting for a couple of pieces of new furniture that she bought, but the place looks great! And she’s loving it. She’s started signing up for activities, and we were going to ask her if she wanted to have dinner with us tonight but she already has plans! That’s just awesome.
I went by after work the other day to wall mount her TV for her and we had dinner. They have a dress code in the dining room - you have to wear a jacket - so tomorrow I’ll drop a jacket by and leave it with her since the loaner jacket they gave me was two sizes too small and I looked goofy as hell at dinner. Could barely reach my mouth with a fork the thing was so tight.
Great news. Sounds like a really good place. I’m heading to see my Mom for her 80th next week. She’s in an apt. building with lots of people around, she’s really weird about the Sr. Living scenario. Even if it is as nice as what you MIL is doing. Oh well.
re: #427 Dark_Falcon
That 30mm gun bears a lot of resemblance to a gun I saw thirty years ago designed by Marine Colonel George Chinn.
Hoping to upstage Clinton and Kaine, Donald Trump displayed his new hairdo to reporters this morning.re: #427 Dark_Falcon
On that note, here’s a US Army video from Ft. Benning showing a firepower demo from the Army’s 30mm cannons. The turret and cannon on the 8-wheeled LAV are the same as will be installed in many of the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment’s Strykers. Keep an ear open for some refreshingly aggressive rhetoric from LTG H.R. McMaster near the end:
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“…working with industry to develop technology.”
that’s how we do it and always have.
BTW, in case no one noticed, Da’esh killed 80 more people today and wounded 230+ in Kabul:
Islamic State claims responsibility for Kabul attack, 80 dead
Twin explosions tore through a demonstration by members of Afghanistan’s mainly Shi’ite Hazara minority in Kabul on Saturday, killing at least 80 people and wounding more than 230 in a suicide attack claimed by Islamic State.
Graphic television footage from the site of the attack showed many dead bodies lying on the bloodied road, close to where thousands of Hazara had been demonstrating over the route of a planned multimillion dollar power line.
“Two fighters from Islamic State detonated explosive belts at a gathering of Shi’ites in the city of Kabul in Afghanistan,” said a brief statement on the group’s Amaq news agency.
If confirmed as the work of Islamic State, the attack would represent a major escalation for a group which has hitherto been largely confined to the eastern province of Nangarhar.
The explicit reference to the Hazara’s Shi’ite religious affiliation also represents a menacing departure for Afghanistan, where the bloody sectarian rivalry between Sunni and Shi’ites typical of Iraq has been relatively rare, despite decades of war. […]
re: #476 HappyWarrior
Yeah I kind of do get nervous at the thought of what may happen when they realize they share a lot of the same hatreds. And before I get told that’s nuts, I did read that an American Neo-Nazi type by the name of August Kreis did apparently try to reach out to Al Queda for an alliance.
en.wikipedia.org
Wasn’t aware of that one, thanks.
Ayatollah Duckmanny
#1 in News. pic.twitter.com/l8d7WD0HBV
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) July 23, 2016
re: #479 Romantic Heretic
That 30mm gun bears a lot of resemblance to a gun I saw thirty years ago designed by Marine Colonel George Chinn.
It’s an electrically-driven Chain Gun, the same as on the M2 Bradley. Like the Bradley, the gun is called a ‘Bushmaster’ but is not related to the rifle of the same name.
30mm is the largest Bushmaster in current service, but not for long, as the US Army is currently working with ATK to finalize development of a 50mm version.
re: #484 darthstar
Ayatollah Duckmanny
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Trying to think of a good pun with ducks and fatwa.
re: #477 Dark_Falcon
“Islamist slimebags”? That’s a step up from “Radical Islamists” which is your party’s favorite term…you’ve generalized your disdain further than Trump even.
re: #483 CuriousLurker
Wasn’t aware of that one, thanks.
Not a problem. I used to read issues of the SPLC’s magazine and heard of Kreis as early as the early 2000’s and then saw his name in the news in 2005 when he attempted the aforementioned AQ alliance. Glad to see he’s behind bars. These Nazi fucks usually are the types that go after kids.
re: #486 HappyWarrior
Trying to think of a good pun with ducks and fatwa.
I love cooking with duck fatwa. I even have a bag of Confit Duck Gizzards in the freezer I picked up at the French import store the other day. Going to have those on a salad next time I have company over.
re: #442 Blind Frog Belly White
My favourite author claims that Western Civilization is a giant, heritable inferiority complex. We’re descended from the barbarians that destroyed Rome and have been trying to reclaim Rome’s mantle ever since.
He’s believes that’s why so much of our architecture is Roman. It’s why empires claiming Rome’s legitimacy name their rulers Kaiser or Czar.
He says it’s why we are so aggressive in our desire to ‘fix’ other cultures, to ‘ennoble’ them, to ‘civilize’ them. We won’t be satisfied until every one acknowledges our greatness, recognizes us as Rome reborn.
There is, I think, some merit in that observation.
Hmmm. If true then Trump is the perfect avatar of that cultural inferiority complex.
re: #486 HappyWarrior
Trying to think of a good pun with ducks and fatwa.
You could call federal regulations that prohibit electronic duck callers a ‘fatwa’ that among other things protects the value of Phil Robertson’s Duck Commander duck caller.
re: #490 darthstar
I love cooking with duck fatwa. I even have a bag of Confit Duck Gizzards in the freezer I picked up at the French import store the other day. Going to have those on a salad next time I have company over.
I don’t have duck nearly enough. A local Thai place has a duck curry though.
re: #492 Dark_Falcon
You could call federal regulations that prohibit electronic duck callers a ‘fatwa’ that among other things protects the value of Phil Robertson’s Duck Commander duck caller.
I was thinking something more silly like DS calling him Ayatollah Duckmanny.
re: #494 HappyWarrior
I was thinking something more silly like DS calling him Ayatollah Duckmanny.
I wasn’t being silly. If I was silly I would have said Ayatollah Duckmeanie.
re: #491 Romantic Heretic
My favourite author claims that Western Civilization is a giant, heritable inferiority complex. We’re descended from the barbarians that destroyed Rome and have been trying to reclaim Rome’s mantle ever since.
He’s believes that’s why so much of our architecture is Roman. It’s why empires claiming Rome’s legitimacy name their rulers Kaiser or Czar.
He says it’s why we are so aggressive in our desire to ‘fix’ other cultures, to ‘ennoble’ them, to ‘civilize’ them. We won’t be satisfied until every one acknowledges our greatness, recognizes us as Rome reborn.
There is, I think, some merit in that observation.
Hmmm. If true then Trump is the perfect avatar of that cultural inferiority complex.
I think your historian is on to something there. But yeah for the most part those of us of European descent are descended from Barbians. I’m honestly amused when white supremacists tell whites they should unite and I just have to laugh because of all teh shit I see being done to Eastern European immigrants in the UK and knowing how my own Irish relations were treated when they got here by the “true whites” read Anglo-Saxon Protestants.
re: #487 darthstar
“Islamist slimebags”? That’s a step up from “Radical Islamists” which is your party’s favorite term…you’ve generalized your disdain further than Trump even.
The LNA soldiers fighting the alliance of jihadist groups in Benghazi are themselves Muslims. “Islamist’ is a term I use to refer to various groups within the Muslim world who seek to impose theocracy of varying degrees of severity.
Basically, if a Muslim is not a theocrat then I do not consider them an Islamist or refer to them as such.
re: #495 darthstar
I wasn’t being silly. If I was silly I would have said Ayatollah Duckmeanie.
You know what I meant, it was clever hence why you got your deserved upding.
re: #405 Dark_Falcon
I avoided watching the RNC, as I will avoid watching the DNC. Both are celebrations of serial liars with whom I do not identify politically.
Ahh the old “both” do it so I can’t support it.
But yet you supported Bush didn’t you? You going to tell me there wasn’t some serial lying going on there.
I know you haven’t been around but have you seen the posted comparison chart in truth versus lying? Guess who is at the top? ALL of the Republicans led by your party’s big orange glob candidate. Some of them guys you would have supported had not Trump sat on all of them.
At the bottom and credited with very little truth stretching..Hillary Clinton. Even below St. Bernard of Vermont.
So, going with your thinking I’m gonna say you are lying! /
re: #496 Tigger2
Preppy Redneck.
Heh I have seen the photos of them without their beards. The Robertsons are a bunch of fakes just like a British lord who wears a kilt.
I think its time for the Trump Duck to make an appearance:
Trump Duckre: #474 thedopefishlives
Barbarians at the gates? Hardly. We threw the gates wide open and let the barbarians in. And this is the thanks we get.
We didn’t let them in. They’re who we are, if we let ourselves be. The fear and hate of The Other comes natural to us, it takes effort to be something else and to make society into something better. They’re afraid of that work, and afraid of what it would mean if BLM (for example) is right that our society DOESN’T value all lives equally.
I’m reminded of Jules’ speech to “Ringo” in Pulp Fiction:
See now I’m thinkin’, maybe it means you’re the evil man. And I’m the righteous man. And Mr. 9 Milimeter here, he’s the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you’re the righteous man and I’m the shepherd and it’s the world that’s evil and selfish. Now I’d like that. But that shit ain’t the truth. The truth is you’re the weak. And I’m the tyranny of evil men. But I’m tryin’, Ringo. I’m tryin’ real hard to be a shepherd.
It’s comforting to think of oneself as Preserving Western Civilization Against The Barbarian Hordes. But really, we need to recognize that Western Civilization has been as bad as the Barbarian Hordes. We are ‘the tyranny of evil men’, and we need to try REAL HARD to be the shepherd.
The crowd is going nuts at the Kaine, Clinton rally in FL
re: #491 Romantic Heretic
The fact of the matter is, until Renaissance, we were the barbarians to the more advanced Muslim World. The West would not truly pull ahead until the enlightenment, and our supposed civilized nature is a little bit of a veneer.
The same year Star Wars came out, France had it’s last execution by Guillotine. PM Major and President Mitterand declined to help Bosnia for quite some time because they saw the wiping out of Muslims in Bosnia as correcting a aberration, namely that there were Muslim nations in Europe. No, seriously.
Clinton said U.S. allies in Europe blocked proposals to adjust or remove the embargo. They justified their opposition on plausible humanitarian grounds, arguing that more arms would only fuel the bloodshed, but privately, said the president, key allies objected that an independent Bosnia would be “unnatural” as the only Muslim nation in Europe. He said they favored the embargo precisely because it locked in Bosnia’s disadvantage. [..] When I expressed shock at such cynicism, reminiscent of the blind-eye diplomacy regarding the plight of Europe’s Jews during World War II, President Clinton only shrugged. He said President François Mitterrand of France had been especially blunt in saying that Bosnia did not belong, and that British officials also spoke of a painful but realistic restoration of Christian Europe. Against Britain and France, he said, German chancellor Helmut Kohl among others had supported moves to reconsider the United Nations arms embargo, failing in part because Germany did not hold a seat on the U.N. Security Council.
To their credit, Kohl of Germany objected to this and allowed the US, Pakistan, and Turkey to use German Bases for frankly illegal activities to support the Bosnians, and Margaret Thatcher thought want Major and Mitterand did was sick.
And not to mention that, until 1945, Europe was the most war-prone violent continent of them all.
re: #496 Tigger2
Preppy Redneck.
I hope he’s miserable keeping that hair and beard. I’ve been letting my hair grow long for a while now (it’s on my shoulders - I know…it seems silly at 52 as my hair is graying rapidly) and I think about cutting it all the time. Especially in the pool, where I now have to wear a cap because the shit keeps getting in my eyes when I’m trying to swim laps.
And he’s doing it for one reason - it’s his character on TV. He could trim his beard and hair and keep the bandana and still be a Duck Dynasty dickhead.
re: #504 Tigger2
The crowd is going nuts at the Kaine, Clinton rally in FL
I imagine Timmy’s working the Espanol some. The more I think about the choice, the more I really like it.
re: #504 Tigger2
Yep, they need to get out there already.
re: #487 darthstar
“Islamist slimebags”? That’s a step up from “Radical Islamists” which is your party’s favorite term…you’ve generalized your disdain further than Trump even.
Yet somehow wingnut wannabe theocrats on the right who call themselves conservatives/Republicans never get labeled “Christianist slimebags.”
re: #504 Tigger2
The crowd is going nuts at the Kaine, Clinton rally in FL
Big boisterous turn-out. Me like.
re: #506 darthstar
I hope he’s miserable keeping that hair and beard. I’ve been letting my hair grow long for a while now (it’s on my shoulders - I know…it seems silly at 52 as my hair is graying rapidly) and I think about cutting it all the time. Especially in the pool, where I now have to wear a cap because the shit keeps getting in my eyes when I’m trying to swim laps.
And he’s doing it for one reason - it’s his character on TV. He could trim his beard and hair and keep the bandana and still be a Duck Dynasty dickhead.
I had long hair all my life have damn near a shaved head now, much easier to take care of.
re: #503 Blind Frog Belly White
Jules’ monologue in Pulp Fiction is one of the best ever written, IMHO and Samuel Jackson’s delivery was absolutely superb.
re: #509 CuriousLurker
Yet somehow wingnut wannabe theocrats on the right who call themselves conservatives/Republicans never get labeled “Christianist slimebags.”
I prefer “Christian Theocrat Slimebags”. Does that work for you?
re: #498 Dark_Falcon
The LNA soldiers fighting the alliance of jihadist groups in Benghazi are themselves Muslims. “Islamist’ is a term I use to refer to various groups within the Muslim world who seek to impose theocracy of varying degrees of severity.
Basically, if a Muslim is not a theocrat then I do not consider them an Islamist or refer to them as such.
Honestly, I don’t care about your categories for Muslims. I find the whole idea of labeling people based on their race or religion disturbing and offensive.
We have a general word for terrorists - it’s ”terrorist.” The term used for rebel fighters is “rebel fighters.” And the term for insurgent is “insurgent.” Please make a note of it.
re: #513 Dark_Falcon
I prefer “Christian Theocrat Slimebags”. Does that work for you?
It does describe Mike Pence pretty well, I agree.
re: #507 HappyWarrior
I imagine Timmy’s working the Espanol some. The more I think about the choice, the more I really like it.
Up to the election, the VP candidate only has two jobs; don’t say something stupid and do well in the VP debate.
Palin failed both. Who knows what Pence will do. Maybe Trump will be on stage with him during the debate to keep him on message, i.e. TRUMP IS GREAT!
Bold prediction: Hillary won’t introduce Kaine by rambling about herself for an hour then abandoning the stage with half the lights off.
— Zeddonymous (@ZeddRebel) July 23, 2016
re: #443 HappyWarrior
First his sister and now his mother.
Who are they to stand in the path of Trump Making American Great Again?
Pffft. He will do what he needs to do…there is an evil under your bed and Donald J. Trump will take care of them for you.
(Outside a black van pulls up. On the side is a logo in gold that states: Trump Dust Bunny Removal.)
re: #513 Dark_Falcon
I prefer “Christian Theocrat Slimebags”. Does that work for you?
Sure, if you actually start using it.
re: #516 Skip Intro
Up to the election, the VP candidate only has two jobs; don’t say something stupid and do well in the VP debate.
Palin failed both. Who knows what Pence will do. Maybe Trump will be on stage with him during the debate to keep him on message, i.e. TRUMP IS GREAT!
I think there’s a good chance Pence might do just that. I mean we’re talking about a man who wrote that cigarettes don’t cause cancer and don’t even get me started on some of his musings about pop culture. Pence is an out of touch theocratic asshole.
re: #517 Jenner7
There are other ways she’s better than Trump.
re: #509 CuriousLurker
Yet somehow wingnut wannabe theocrats on the right who call themselves conservatives/Republicans never get labeled “Christianist slimebags.”
Um… Kos calls them Talibangelicals.
re: #518 ObserverArt
Who are they to stand in the path of Trump Making American Great Again?
Pffft. He will do what he needs to do…there is an evil under your bed and Donald J. Trump will take care of them for you.
(Outside a black van pulls up. On the side is a logo in gold that states: Trump Dust Bunny Removal.)
Oh I know but I am glad to see his family making it clear that they resent the hell out of the RNC using their son and brother as a political punching bag to shine up the turd that is Donald Trump.
re: #305 CuriousLurker
Yeah, it’s hard to imagine what sort of twisted self-hate would make an immigrant identify with a white terrorist and kill other immigrants. I didn’t figure it was Da’esh inspired as they hate Shia, so an Iranian would be unlikely to be a fan.
That’s some serious bad crazy nonetheless. Sheesh—I wasn’t expecting that.
There are a pair of Iranian brothers in my family’s village in rural west-central Germany who I’ve met, who are indistinguishable from your “average” (read: white) German, except for skin color and name. Their parents arrived in Germany in the 80’s and these two are what you’d call “fully integrated”.
If they ever attended mosques, dressed differently, or did other immigrant-y things, I never saw it, because they swilled beer, shot pool, uttered cynicism, and played Counterstrike at the village youth club like the rest of us.
So, the media might make a lot of hay out of the shooter being Iranian background, but that could mean absolutely nothing. The fact that he got into an argument with a bystander, and that the contents of that argument are so typically German, lean me towards “not a factor”.
re: #521 darthstar
There are a thousand ways she’s better than Trump.
So the DNC emails have a stunning revelation: the DNC favored Clinton over Sanders.
I would have never guessed.
Hillary is using her time to introduce Kaine to praise Kaine not like Trump who talked about himself when he was introducing Pence.
re: #502 Dark_Falcon
I think its time for the Trump Duck to make an appearance:
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My favorite is Trump Catepillar.
Wasserman-Schultz wanted 7 tickets to Hamilton. 7 for chrissakes.
What an outrage.
I’m just sayin pic.twitter.com/V5rIU1lvVs
— Emmy Bengtson (@EmmyA2) July 23, 2016
re: #529 Tigger2
Hillary is using her time to introduce Kaine to praise Kaine not like Trump who talked about himself when he was introducing Pence.
There’s a lot to like about Tim Kaine. As I’ve said, he was the first person I ever voted for and I was able to tell him that. I’ve happily voted for him twice now and I’ll gladly do it again.
re: #532 Jenner7
Uh, does Kanie have a history of engaging mouth before brain?
re: #515 HappyWarrior
It does describe Mike Pence pretty well, I agree.
You know what I really have a hard time with? Claims that Pence is “a good man” and a solid Christian. If so, what the ever loving fuck is he doing not only supporting Von ClownStick, but also running on the ticket with him?
AFAIC, has apparently lost his moral compass (if he ever had one) and no longer has any personal integrity whatsoever. I find his Christianity as highly suspect as that of Muslims who would (and do) claim piety while lending themselves to the service of extremists. I don’t buy the Aw-Shucks-Mr-Nice-Guy act coming from Pence any more than I bought it from Huckabee.
re: #534 Ziggy_TARDIS
Not sure, what I hear is he’s boring. But from watching now, he engages the audience.
re: #531 SoundGuy 2016
Wasserman-Schultz wanted 7 tickets to Hamilton. 7 for chrissakes.
What an outrage.
7 tickets? 7????
She just can’t even.
re: #534 Ziggy_TARDIS
Uh, does Kanie have a history of engaging mouth before brain?
A little but no worse than Biden. As I said, there’s a reason why this guy has been elected three times to state wide office in a diverse ideologically and culturally state. He’s a likable dude and very capable public servant. I am a little sad we’re going to lose him but his ascension to the Senate would have never happened in the first place if Webb had never quit.
Hillary’s against the TPP.
Kaine is for the TPP.
Trump is against the TPP.
Pence is for the TPP.
Does anyone have the right dance partner in this race?
//sarcasm - I know, she’s not really against the TPP…it was just that damn Sanders got so many people riled up it was best to show concern about it.
“When he was taking on housing discrimination and homelessness, Donald Trump was denying apartments to African Americans” - HRC on Kaine
— Gabriel Debenedetti (@gdebenedetti) July 23, 2016
re: #495 darthstar
I wasn’t being silly. If I was silly I would have said Ayatollah Duckmeanie.
I like Molly Crabapple’s “Mullah Quack”.
re: #535 CuriousLurker
You know what I really have a hard time with? Claims that Pence is “a good man” and a solid Christian. If so, what the ever loving fuck is he doing not only supporting Von ClownStick, but also running on the ticket with him?
AFAIC, has apparently lost his moral compass (if he ever had one) and no longer has any personal integrity whatsoever. I find his Christianity as highly suspect as that of Muslims who would (and do) claim piety while lending themselves to the service of extremists. I don’t buy the Aw-Shucks-Mr-Nice-Guy act coming from Pence any more than I bought it from Huckabee.
No doubt.
re: #538 HappyWarrior
A little but no worse than Biden. As I said, there’s a reason why this guy has been elected three times to state wide office in a diverse ideologically and culturally state. He’s a likable dude and very capable public servant. I am a little sad we’re going to lose him but his ascension to the Senate would have never happened in the first place if Webb had never quit.
A lot less than Trumps foot and mouth problem
re: #532 Jenner7
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re: #545 Tigger2
A lot less than Trumps foot and mouth problem
Trump has Dick Morris’s foot in his mouth he sticks in it so much.
re: #546 Timothy Watson
I told you guys that Kaine was more like Biden than people thought.
I like Biden. I see this as a good sign.
re: #538 HappyWarrior
Not that I disagree with some of Biden’s slips. Reading the stories from Bosnia, what Biden has said about Serbians is something that I admit I sympathize with.
re: #546 Timothy Watson
I told you guys that Kaine was more like Biden than people thought.
I think you, myself, Varek, and TP have talked about this before but we all agreed that we preferred Kaine to Warner. Kaine’s definitely got an everyman touch to him.
re: #460 darthstar
He came pretty close for having a campaign that sucked. He was at 3% last summer and nobody took him seriously until late February.
That said, Hillary could have beat him without the DWS/DNC alliance…all this does is make the historical first female candidate’s nomination look like it may have been achieved less than honorably. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, as we have learned in US politics, it’s all about appearance. At the end of the day it’ll be an asterisk, like the one people see in their minds when they look at Barry Bonds home run record…oh, he doped…so the fuck what? He hit the ball well. The DNC rigged what they could! So what. She won. Get over it. I’m not losing any sleep over this. It’s all par for the course.
Has it been proven they “rigged” anything. I admit I am behind on the latest outrage, but I thought I read that Bernies faith or lack thereof was looked into but never used against him.
Funny though how a bad headline in a NY newspaper Bernie made into “she is unqualified to be president” is picked up by the Round Mound of Orange and used again and again as “Even Bernie Sanders said she is unqualified” is now in the past to the Bernieites as campaign tactics.
I sure as hell wish Democrats could eliminate one gun at least. That would be the one the infighting in the party uses to shoot the party and its candidates in the foot. The one being used by the Ben Jealous, Micael Moore and Jeff Weavers of the world.
I want to see real change. I want to see a Democratic party that is so tight it will drive right over Trump effortlessly. Put down that gun.
re: #549 Ziggy_TARDIS
Not that I disagree with some of Biden’s slips. Reading the stories from Bosnia, what Biden has said about Serbians is something that I admit I sympathize with.
Some of Biden’s slips are way overblown. The big fucking deal thing for example. I am just saying that if Biden’s sometimes case of the foot in mouth doesn’t bother ya, Kaine won’t either.
re: #532 Jenner7
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@EmmyA2 need a video of Biden passing the aviators to Kaine for the DNC
— SecretSurveyEliteDem (@word_34) July 23, 2016
re: #550 HappyWarrior
I think you, myself, Varek, and TP have talked about this before but we all agreed that we preferred Kaine to Warner. Kaine’s definitely got an everyman touch to him.
Yep, and the D.C. news was interviewing people in Richmond around where he lived and they all said that he was a nice guy who was very down to Earth.
Okay…gotta go. Have a good day everyone. Please don’t spend too much time comparing Hillary and Trump. There really is no comparison and it diminishes the race wasting time trying to differentiate the two. It’s not about voting for the lesser of two evils, it’s about the SCOTUS at the end of the day. God help us if the Dems fuck this up and lose.
I’m really happy about Kaine because he’s a safe pick, and god forbid if he should have to take over we’d have someone that a lot of Democrats wanted in the #1 slot a year and a half ago if memory serves correctly.
re: #555 Timothy Watson
Yep, and the D.C. news was interviewing people in Richmond around where he lived and they all said that he was a nice guy who was very down to Earth.
I only met him the one time and it was at a Democratic event but he stood out to me. I liked Warner too but Kaine seemed genuinely appreciative and thankful when I told him that he was the first person I ever voted for.
re: #553 HappyWarrior
That slip is just saying what your fun uncle would say.
He’s just America’s Fun Uncle! :D
I do want to note that Biden supported both humanitarian interventions in Former Yugoslavia, Bosnia and Kosovo. And he likely was very aware of what Serbia was doing to the people of both Kosovo and Bosnia, with the War Rapes, the mass murder, torture, etc. So, I am imagining that those things have coloured his view of the Serbs, as they have for me.
re: #556 darthstar
Okay…gotta go. Have a good day everyone. Please don’t spend too much time comparing Hillary and Trump. There really is no comparison and it diminishes the race wasting time trying to differentiate the two. It’s not about voting for the lesser of two evils, it’s about the SCOTUS at the end of the day. God help us if the Dems fuck this up and lose.
I’m really happy about Kaine because he’s a safe pick, and god forbid if he should have to take over we’d have someone that a lot of Democrats wanted in the #1 slot a year and a half ago if memory serves correctly.
Well SCOTUS is part of what differeniates Clinton and Trump. Glad you like the pick though. He really is a good guy and leader with a wide range of experience.
re: #559 Ziggy_TARDIS
That slip is just saying what your fun uncle would say.
He’s just America’s Fun Uncle! :D
I do want to note that Biden supported both humanitarian interventions in Former Yugoslavia, Bosnia and Kosovo. And he likely was very aware of what Serbia was doing to the people of both Kosovo and Bosnia, with the War Rapes, the mass murder, torture, etc. So, I am imagining that those things have coloured his view of the Serbs, as they have for me.
I actually have an uncle Biden’s age who contributed to his campaign. The two kind of remind me of each other because of that. I didn’t read about what Biden said about the Serbs. To be honest, I do try to judge people as individuals ethnicity aside. For reference, my grandfather was of Slovene origin and one of his best friends was Serbian in origin and I know you’ve read about the troubles Catholics and Orthodox have had in the Balkans. too.
re: #552 ObserverArt
No, there’s just the impression of collusion.
Really gotta go. Sorry I can’t talk this through more right now. She won. I accept that. I don’t care if Debbie Wasserman Schultz sent nasty emails about Bernie to Hillary’s team or the media - I never liked her in the first place.
Fucking DNC. WTH?
They do need an overhaul. This is just plain stupid.
DNC kicks out most reporters at start of rules committee; they had not previously said that any part would be closed press.
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) July 23, 2016
Reporters now being let back in one on one. It happens, but it’s unusual to see that with no warning.
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) July 23, 2016
I am going to be glad when DWS is gone. I honestly thought it was a mistake making a siting Congresswoman party chair in the first place. That said, I can’t help but to feel that some people (not saying anyone here) just want to find fault.
I really like the fellow who’s speaking, but he’s going on so long that there’s not going to be much time for that boring Kaine guy.
re: #523 HappyWarrior
Oh I know but I am glad to see his family making it clear that they resent the hell out of the RNC using their son and brother as a political punching bag to shine up the turd that is Donald Trump.
My #518 wasn’t aimed at you Happy. I was just having some fun at Trump’s expense.
By the way, I can tell you are in full campaign mode now. I’ve noticed some of your comments have been heating up more than usual and getting to be more pointed.
Good job!
(thumbs-up)
re: #561 HappyWarrior
Biden had these thoughts in 1993, and openly said them on Larry King Live.
“Serbs are illiterates, degenerates, baby killers, butchers, and rapists.
re: #567 ObserverArt
M #518 wasn’t aimed at you Happy. I was just having some fun at Trump’s expense.
By the way, I can tell you are in full campaign mode now. I’ve noticed some of your comments have been heating up more than usual and getting to be more pointed.
Good job!
(thumbs-up)
Yep with both VP picks in, I’m fully focused.
re: #568 Ziggy_TARDIS
Biden had these thoughts in 1993, and openly said them on Larry King Live.
Agh. I wish he hadn’t said that but you know the situation in the Balkans was very ugly. The Yugoslav Civil War is actually the first event I really remember. I think it stood out to me since I knew my grandfather’s parents were from that region. Fortunately, Slovenia managed to avoid a lot of the carnage. Just was awful.
re: #568 Ziggy_TARDIS
Biden had these thoughts in 1993, and openly said them on Larry King Live.
And that was rather over-the-line, and wrong, too. Very few Serbs were illiterate, rural literacy programs having been a priority for Tito. Illiterate degenerates would not have built the M-84A, the most sophisticated version of the T-72 in terms of gunnery at the time.
“Pull” means get a copy of the video. It doesn’t mean “cut-off.” https://t.co/UxJ6sH2iqS
— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor) July 23, 2016
Jesus Christ
HERE we have DNC directly contacting @MSNBC to cut off Clinton criticism MID SEGMENT#DNCLeaks #DemExit pic.twitter.com/BXnTmFBRO9— Zach Haller (@zachhaller) July 23, 2016
re: #571 HappyWarrior
It will take a lot to shift my positions on Serbia after everything I have read, I will admit it. (Probably a literal groveling apology). Considering what happened in Bosnia and Kosovo, I am going to give Biden and others a pass on that.
re: #574 Jenner7
Shades of Larry Silverstein’s “pull it”.
re: #575 Ziggy_TARDIS
It will take a lot to shift my positions on Serbia after everything I have read, I will admit it. (Probably a literal groveling apology). Considering what happened in Bosnia and Kosovo, I am going to give Biden and others a pass on that.
I understand hating the government but I can’t hate an enitre people.
re: #539 darthstar
Hillary’s against the TPP.
Kaine is for the TPP.
Trump is against the TPP.
Pence is for the TPP.Does anyone have the right dance partner in this race?
//sarcasm - I know, she’s not really against the TPP…it was just that damn Sanders got so many people riled up it was best to show concern about it.
She is against aspects of the trade bill and has freely stated it. As many other politicians. Most likely if certain things were changed even St. Bernard would be okay with it. Unless Bernie is a strict isolationist I think he is for trade as it is a great way to keep nations partnered and less prone to wars, etc.
So no, she is not totally against TPP, she would like to see it modified.
Does that work for you? Or, are you always going to be sour even if it means you are stretching things.
I mean, really, READ THE EMAIL and it’s pretty clear what they are asking for.
re: #580 Jenner7
I mean, really, READ THE EMAIL and it’s pretty clear what they are asking for.
That was my impression as well. If they were trying to stop it wouldn’t they say kill or bury rather than pull?
re: #562 darthstar
No, there’s just the impression of collusion.
Really gotta go. Sorry I can’t talk this through more right now. She won. I accept that. I don’t care if Debbie Wasserman Schultz sent nasty emails about Bernie to Hillary’s team or the media - I never liked her in the first place.
Ohhhh…those scary impressions. Damn them all!
from conservative radio host https://t.co/pg9FLBV8hD
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) July 23, 2016
GOP website attacking Tim Kaine from the Left. Preibus is an idiot. https://t.co/vDU15rQF4u
— Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) July 23, 2016
Damn he’s talking about Tech. I remember hearing about it. It really hit close to home.
re: #570 blueraven
Kaine is very impressive!
He is knocking it out of the park on ALL things immigration and ‘others’ related.
Good luck Spence. You’re going to need it. A guy that actually understands his Christianity is coming for you and the Big Orange lump Trump shadow you are standing in.
I remember reading about that professor. That was an amazing story.
Time to start wondering whether the relentless promotion of mass shootings by TV news is part of the problem. https://t.co/vPN7DHPHgU
— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) July 23, 2016
In Munich shooting rampage, a familiar story — a gunman obsessed with prior mass shootings https://t.co/da3vwWPtp1 pic.twitter.com/1Glk742E0Q
— Mark Berman (@markberman) July 23, 2016
I’ve just realised why the GOPers like to attack teleprompters - most of them have no idea how to use them. Kaine’s speech is good - his presentation is terrific - it’s as if he memorised every last word.
re: #587 ObserverArt
He is knocking it out of the park on ALL things immigration and ‘others’ related.
Good luck Spence. You’re going to need it. A guy that actually understands his Christianity is coming for you and the Big Orange lump Trump shadow you are standing in.
I honestly got shaken up a little when he talked about immigrants. My niece is among the first person born in America on her mother’s side.
Thanks for the Kaine updates, my daughter took over the TV.
re: #586 HappyWarrior
Damn he’s talking about Tech. I remember hearing about it. It really hit close to home.
As do I. And I remember Kaine actually working to action immediately after, not offering “thoughts and prayers” before returning to pledging fealty to Wayne LaPierre.
A “You’re hired President or a You’re fired President.” Awesome.
As if the Bernie camp wasn’t nasty towards Hillary. Please. Just get over it and come together to keep the fascist knucklehead away from the WH.
re: #594 Targetpractice
As do I. And I remember Kaine actually working to action immediately after, not offering “thoughts and prayers” before returning to pledging fealty to Wayne LaPierre.
Yeah he handled it very well.
He doesn’t trash talk everyone, he praises Vladimir Putin. I actually got some tears from laughing there.
Hillary does quite well on her first major presidential decision.
Kaine will be a asset.
re: #592 HappyWarrior
He’s sticking it to the NRA. Awesome.
And he just got a jab in at Trump’s love of Putin.
I’ve never heard him speak, but I think he is doing just fine so far. He is doing the dirty work without being dirty. That is going to go a long way.
Last night I went to sleep not knowing exactly why @HillaryClinton chose @TimKaine to be her VP candidate. Now, I know exactly why. Wow.
— Michael Skolnik (@MichaelSkolnik) July 23, 2016
re: #600 ObserverArt
And he just got a jab in at Trump’s love of Putin.
I’ve never heard him speak, but I think he is doing just fine so far. He is doing the dirty work without being dirty. That is going to go a long way.
I’m very familiar with him as you know. Really happy with the pick the more I see.
A 100% great introduction to Kaine and an awesome speech by him.
Why are people against the TPP? What does it do that is a problem?
Remind me again, why did people think that Kaine was so “boring”?
re: #602 451_Montag
Fucking great speech
And he looks pretty damn comfortable up there. You can tell he is experienced and is a practiced speaker.
Overall, compared to last Saturday’s Pence intro there is simply no comparison.
They look fun and a natural partnership.
Donald Trump: I don’t care about NATO
Tim Kaine: My son is a Marine who’s deploying to a NATO base next week— Daily News Bin (@DailyNewsBin) July 23, 2016
I can see Kaine bringing some mod Republicans over.
re: #608 Targetpractice
Remind me again, why did people think that Kaine was so “boring”?
I think they seriously just saw that he was a governor of a swing state and had a moderate reputation and went assuming. I always thought he was our state’s best high ranking public servant. Warner isn’t bad but he’s too Mr. Business Guy for me.
re: #585 FormerDirtDart
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Kaine isn’t liberal enough for some, but he was one of the first people to support Obama.
re: #574 Jenner7
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Dumb people. THEY’RE EVERYWHERE.
It’s not like it says “Video request” in the subject or anything. Sheesh.
re: #613 Timothy Watson
Kaine isn’t liberal enough for some, but he was one of the first people to support Obama.
The very first governor IIRC.
re: #611 Tigger2
I can see Kaine bringing some mod Republicans over.
Yep, his wife, Anne Holton, is the daughter of a former Republican governor of Virginia, Linwood Holton. Linwood Holton endorsed Obama back in 2008.
Clinton standing behind Kaine for entire speech. Big contrast with Pence opening appearance, when Trump watched speech back stage.
— Steve Peoples (@sppeoples) July 23, 2016
“I’ve been following Hillary Clinton for decades… This was a home run” — @mitchellreports
— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) July 23, 2016
“I’m a Catholic, and Hillary is a Methodist, but I tell you, her creed is the same as mine:
Do all the good you can.” —@timkaine— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) July 23, 2016
And THAT’S how you roll out your VP!
#ClintonKaine #ThatsHowItsDone pic.twitter.com/jjklz8IlUq— Philly4Hillary (@Philly4Hillary) July 23, 2016
Tuned into the Clinton/Kaine debut. Striking, as a Trump reporter, to see their pitch for optimism. Quite a contrast.
— Jose A. DelReal (@jdelreal) July 23, 2016
re: #602 451_Montag
Fucking great speech
Looking forward to watching it when a video is available (live streams are all talking heads now).
Kaine: “Though times don’t last, but tough people do.”
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) July 23, 2016
re: #607 b_sharp
Why are people against the TPP? What does it do that is a problem?
A couple of sticking points are that it could allow corporations to sue countries if their regulations “cheat” them out of profits and that it could force people who have grievances with corporations to get them addressed through arbitration instead of lawsuits, which heavily favors corporations. I was undecided on TPP until I heard about these clauses. I oppose it now.
re: #617 Timothy Watson
Yep, his wife, Anne Holton, is the daughter of a former Republican governor of Virginia, Linwood Holton. Linwood Holton endorsed Obama back in 2008.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they do an ad. Governor Holton was well before my time but he’s someone I could see myself voting for.
What I liked about the speech was that it was inclusive. Some progressives types and I hate to single Bernie out since he’s on board with Clinton now but they come off as bit of downers.
re: #607 b_sharp
Why are people against the TPP? What does it do that is a problem?
Seems to be in language about copyrights, trade secrets and the like and that an international group will be responsible for the fairness and policing of such. Many want America solely responsible for all aspects of our business and that is what Trump is pounding on.
Also, much of it is just pure scare tactics saying all trade pacts are the evil. So TPP is evil too.
What I’ve found odd is that even people who like Obama don’t seem to feel he has their back on a new trade agreement he claims rights many of the wrongs of the trade agreements of the past.
They sure as hell are not going to look at it like you (a Canadian) would as a benefiting and partner in NAFTA, just like Mexico.
I don’y get it. Work with it, change it, negotiate. Be a politician and not just a poo-flinging critic.
jeebus, talk about comparing apples and oranges…
Trump campaign began working on their Kaine oppo just yesterday pic.twitter.com/oP40NqdQJs
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) July 23, 2016
re: #613 Timothy Watson
Kaine isn’t liberal enough for some, but he was one of the first people to support Obama.
And Obama looked at him as a VP candidate too did he not?
So…what’s the big deal?
Where’s the beef?
re: #629 Backwoods_Sleuth
jeebus, talk about comparing apples and oranges…
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God, a Republican campaign really saying, “Damn it Bush!” and “Thanks Obama!”.
Pocahontas wanted V.P. slot so badly but wasn’t chosen because she has done nothing in the Senate. Also, Crooked Hillary hates her!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 23, 2016
Nothing worse than having a big mouth and an empty head. Go away. https://t.co/wpzbIiV1pV
— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) July 23, 2016
re: #630 ObserverArt
And Obama looked at him as a VP candidate too did he not?
So…what’s the big deal?
Where’s the beef?
Not only did he look at him, he was the runner up to Biden. Obama thinks a lot of Kaine.
re: #629 Backwoods_Sleuth
jeebus, talk about comparing apples and oranges…
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Let’s just look at the dates on that for a second… Yup. Comparing two completely different segments of time. Comparison is invalid.
re: #629 Backwoods_Sleuth
jeebus, talk about comparing apples and oranges…
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They’re not even trying with that shit. The 2008 recession is a pretty obvious difference between the two scenarios.
re: #625 No Depression
A couple of sticking points are that it could allow corporations to sue countries if their regulations “cheat” them out of profits and that it could force people who have grievances with corporations to get them addressed through arbitration instead of lawsuits, which heavily favors corporations. I was undecided on TPP until I heard about these clauses. I oppose it now.
Sounds like the concerns about NAFTA.
re: #638 No Depression
They’re not even trying with that shit. The 2008 recession is a pretty obvious difference between the two scenarios.
Exactly.
When white “progressives” say #TimKaine doesn’t excite the base but this is his church for 30yrs & this is Dem base. pic.twitter.com/UQQ9sWL14q
— Victoria Brownworth (@VABVOX) July 23, 2016
re: #630 ObserverArt
And Obama looked at him as a VP candidate too did he not?
So…what’s the big deal?
Where’s the beef?
Yep, and Obama ended up picking Biden because he wanted someone with more foreign policy experience, which Kaine didn’t have a lot of at the time. Kaine has picked up a lot of that during his time in the Senate since the start of 2013 and has been one of the main people pushing for an Authorization of Military Force against ISIS.
re: #629 Backwoods_Sleuth
jeebus, talk about comparing apples and oranges…
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re: #641 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I love that, my own great uncle was a priest for a predominately African-American congregation in Louisiana. He also was a civil rights lawyer who fought for equal housing before he became Richmond’s mayor.
re: #629 Backwoods_Sleuth
Shorter: They got nothing!
Kaine on the NRA: “I don’t mind powerful groups campaigning against me. It’s just like an extra cup of coffee.” pic.twitter.com/J14dYG02gP
— POLITICO (@politico) July 23, 2016
re: #640 HappyWarrior
Exactly.
“I hold in my left hand this lovely red Pennsylvania apple. In my right, this juicy Florida Orange. Let’s compare them…..”
Btw Charles, the Generalissimo Trump graphic is brillante.
heh
I love Tim Kaine and now I feel like I’m cheating on Joe Biden, THERE’S ROOM FOR BOTH OF YOU IN MY HEART
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) July 23, 2016
re: #649 Backwoods_Sleuth
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There’s nothing wrong with another Irish-American VP Uncle.
2008: “Joe Biden is so boring and conventional. Nothing like I was hoping for. I can’t believe Obama would pick him.”
2016: “UNCLE JOE, DON’T GO!!!”
He’s going to do well with Hispanic communities too. This is someone who has lived and worked in Central America, speaks fluent Spanish, and is governor of a state with a large growing Latino population. I think many white progressives just don’t understand that kind of thing. They think the voting record is all that really matters but they don’t get that politics is about people in the end.
People doing Tim Kaine cosplay at Comic-Con were initially mocked but now they’re getting the last laugh. #SDCC2016
— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) July 23, 2016
re: #651 Targetpractice
2008: “Joe Biden is so boring and conventional. Nothing like I was hoping for. I can’t believe Obama would pick him.”
2016: “UNCLE JOE, DON’T GO!!!”
So true.
This is something that I think may get overlooked but is important :I know it’s easy to Kaine as a “boring white guy”.
According to John Moeser, a professor emeritus of urban studies and planning at Virginia Commonwealth University and later a visiting fellow at the University of Richmond’s Center for Civic Engagement, during his time as mayor Kaine “was energetic, charismatic and, most important, spoke openly about his commitment to racial reconciliation in Richmond.”[18] In the early part of his term, Kaine issued an apology for the city’s role in slavery,[21][24] the apology was generally well received as “a genuine, heartfelt expression.”[21] In the latter part of his term, a contentious debate took place in the city over the inclusion of a portrait of Confederate general Robert E. Lee in a set of historic murals to be placed on city floodwalls; Kaine came out in favor of Lee’s inclusion, arguing that placing Lee on the floodwall made sense in context.[25]
Hear hear!
It’s sooooo nice to hear adults talk. #ClintonKaine
— Cody Jackson (@CowboyCodyJack) July 23, 2016
Oh and Anne, his wife is a pretty capable lady too. She’s currently Virginia’s education secretary and the daughter of a former Republican governor who actually sent his children to Richmond’s predominately African-American schools during the height of the forced busing controversy in the early 70’s.
re: #652 HappyWarrior
He’s going to do well with Hispanic communities too. This is someone who has lived and worked in Central America, speaks fluent Spanish, and is governor of a state with a large growing Latino population. I think many white progressives just don’t understand that kind of thing. They think the voting record is all that really matters but they don’t get that politics is about people in the end.
Oh, it seems it is about people with those progressives Happy.
Their people.
By the way, it appears that Kaine was the first prominent non-Illinois Democrat to endorse Obama in 2008. I always hear Clinton’s detractors say she’s vindictive and holds a grudge but that doesn’t seem to be the case at all. Really the more I think about this pick, the more I absolutely love it. Americans are going to like Tim Kaine.
re: #658 ObserverArt
Oh, it seems it is about people with those progressives Happy.
Their people.
Yep.
— Alan Kestrel (@AlanKestrel750) July 23, 2016
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Progressive Democrat, avid gamer, and I sometimes drunk tweet stupid shit in the middle of the night (apparently). Reddit user Man_in_the_Suit_1211.
I know @timkaine — I like @timkaine — I trust @timkaine This progressive plans to work hard for Clinton-Kaine for progressive values.
— Donna Edwards (@DonnaFEdwards) July 23, 2016
Ed Rendell on MSNBC just said Kaine is a complex person and almost became a priest.
I went to Catholic school and three classmates left in the 8th grade to go to Seminary School. One became mayor of a mid-sized Ohio city. One became an atheist and got into social work and the third got involved in city government but not as a politician so much as a coordinator with social services and government agencies.
In other words, doing good works for people without the collar. Must be something in the holy water!
re: #662 blueraven
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re: #663 ObserverArt
Ed Rendell on MSNBC just said Kaine is a complex person and almost became a priest.
I went to Catholic school and three classmates left in the 8th grade to go to Seminary School. One became mayor of a mid-sized Ohio city. One became an atheist and got into social work and the third got involved in city government but not as a politician so much as a coordinator with social services and government agencies.
In other words, doing good works for people without the collar. Must be something in the holy water!
He is. Devout Catholic but also and I didn’t know this (I turned 21 his last year as governor) but he’s why we can buy alcohol in this state on Sundays now. He’s very much cut from the Catholicism of Biden, he believes in his church’s teachings but he also realizes that secular and religious law are different and separate matters.
#2016 Warren responds to VP news by responding to trump tweet. pic.twitter.com/VxJBrzpy6e
— Tamara Keith (@tamarakeithNPR) July 23, 2016
I decided earlier today to check out the old Fark thread on the day Biden was announced, see if I could get an idea where sentiment was about the pick. And almost everything I read sounded familiar: He was too “boring” and yet too risky was “gaffe-prone,” he was “establishment” when Obama needed somebody to shake up and energize the progressive vote, Obama was “playing it safe” when he could have gone for a firebreathing progressive, etc, etc. Virtually everything said about Kaine yesterday was said about Biden 8 years ago.
So yeah, I’m not sweating Hillary’s choice. I even totally agree with those who say that this decision shows she’s confident about beating Trump in November. Not complacent, but confident.
re: #667 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Kaine’s most devastating contrast line - pick a leader who has a passion for something other than himself.
— Ari Melber MSNBC (@AriMelber) July 23, 2016
I had no idea Kaine was this good. His bio is relatable but impressive, and he can deliver a tough hit on Trump while still being endearing.
— Tommy Vietor (@TVietor08) July 23, 2016
re: #667 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I hope she keeps chewing on his fat butt from now until January 2017.
Go Elizabeth GO!
re: #667 Backwoods_Sleuth
God, you can’t tell the parody accounts from the real fucking thing anymore. What an idiot.
re: #8 TK-421
Before starting his own firm, Kelly was a lawyer for 15 years with Reinhart Boerner Van Deuren. He received his bachelor’s degree in political science and Spanish from Carroll University and his law degree from Regent University in Virginia, the college founded by televangelist Pat Robertson that bills itself as a “global center for Christian thought and action.”
re: #668 Targetpractice
I decided earlier today to check out the old Fark thread on the day Biden was announced, see if I could get an idea where sentiment was about the pick. And almost everything I read sounded familiar: He was too “boring” and yet too risky was “gaffe-prone,” he was “establishment” when Obama needed somebody to shake up and energize the progressive vote, Obama was “playing it safe” when he could have gone for a firebreathing progressive, etc, etc. Virtually everything said about Kaine yesterday was said about Biden 8 years ago.
So yeah, I’m not sweating Hillary’s choice. I even totally agree with those who say that this decision shows she’s confident about beating Trump in November. Not complacent, but confident.
Right. A lot of people love Biden now but at the time, he was establishment and too safe. Worked out well in the end and I feel Kaine will for Clinton.
Oh, and another thing I read at Fark that was repeated by PUMAs and wingnuts alike: The Biden pick had doomed Obama. McCain was gonna pick Palin and eat his lunch, while progressives would sit home because Biden wasn’t exciting enough. There was no way Obama could win with somebody like Biden on the ticket. The PUMAs were even bitching in Aug ‘08 that Obama should have picked Hillary because (wait for it) she polled better against McCain!
Any second now the Men’s Rights Movement will claim that “Clinton/Kaine” is code for CucK. //
re: #670 blueraven
Ari Melber MSNBC ✔ @AriMelber
Kaine’s most devastating contrast line - pick a leader who has a passion for something other than himself.
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That even extended into a dig on the family, but not in a dirty way. I was very happy to see him get into that. Make a deal of the fake republican opportunists they all are.
And with that…time to get to work. Another logo design in progress.
I’m getting some small business start ups work which is my main target. I’m hoping I can grow some work out of it all as they too grow.
re: #670 blueraven
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I really liked that. Just look at all Trump’s tacky businesses, all with his name and dedicated to making him filthy rich.
CNN conservative commentator Scottie Hughes on Kaine Spanish: “I didn’t have to get out my translator to understand anything at RNC.”
— Steve Peoples (@sppeoples) July 23, 2016
That’s because hate speech never requires a translator.
I can’t be the only person seeing this as an overcompensation for fact Duke is a strong Trump supporter. pic.twitter.com/JBFKfqVY4v
— andrew kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) July 23, 2016
re: #680 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Oh noes, he spoke the Spanish. I mean it’s not like in some parts of this country Spanish was spoken for generations before English was. I am old enough to remember when Republicans lauded Bush for his Spanish and I have to admit, I mocked him but I was young and dumb and realize now that Bush at least cared to show respect to Spanish speaking Americans which is something unheard of in today’s GOP.
re: #681 FormerDirtDart
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For weeks as Trump has been ascendant, the GOP wouldn’t touch Duke except to mumble that he didn’t matter.
But as soon as he announces for office, they suddenly find their balls in that jar in the fridge behind the mayo.
re: #683 Targetpractice
For weeks as Trump has been ascendant, the GOP wouldn’t touch Duke except to mumble that he didn’t matter.
But as soon as he announces for office, they suddenly find their balls in that jar in the fridge behind the mayo.
It’s because he threatens their brand, the illusion that they’re not really racist wink wink.
Hillary must really trust @timkaine! She lets him speak for himself. #ClintonKaine pic.twitter.com/FOn67PrMvx
— Donald J. Drumpf (@RealDonalDrumpf) July 23, 2016
re: #681 FormerDirtDart
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Both of them clowns are unrepentant liars, they are the KKK.
re: #683 Targetpractice
For weeks as Trump has been ascendant, the GOP wouldn’t touch Duke except to mumble that he didn’t matter.
But as soon as he announces for office, they suddenly find their balls in that jar in the fridge behind the mayo.
I’m not paying close attention, but does Trump know David Duke now? He seems to float in and out of Trump’s memory, almost like it lines up with whether he needs to or not.
Okay…leaving
I like imaging what certain Trump supporters would say if HillaryClinton accepted the Dem nomination with her 5 kids by 3 different men.
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) July 23, 2016
Holy Women’s Wear Daily, Batman, how did I miss this?
#TrumpSpeechInFourWords “I’d rather grope Ivanka.” pic.twitter.com/Q80s0q498k
— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) July 22, 2016
Also was what if Obama had a daughter that became pregnant on the eve of the convention and was unmarried like Bristol was. Obama to his credit eight years ago showed a lot of empathy to Bristol noting that his mother too was a teen mom. I think that’s part of why I loathe the Palins so much. They are so down right nasty to Obama and Obama actually was pretty empathetic to them when that happened in a way that Obama’s children never would have gotten from McCain and the GOP talking heads had they been in that situation.
re: #681 FormerDirtDart
This will last right up to the time polls show Duke leading the Republican field. Then Gingrich, Preibus, and Hannity will be slobbering all over him.
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
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Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ... Cheechako
They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... Cheechako
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March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... CheechakoKGxvi
Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
