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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:22:58pm
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Jenner7  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:22:59pm
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TedStriker  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:25:04pm

Any time I see one of these Bad Lip Reading videos posted, I always think of Armed and Dangerous:

A lesson in reading lips

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TK-421  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:28:32pm

Thanks for the DNC thread guys, was unable to watch. I’ll have to catch Booker’s and Michelle’s speech later.

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vgranucci  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:29:01pm

re: #2 Jenner7

Uprate for “Oscar”. Hilarious movie

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Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:29:05pm

Looks like Dre was put into cuffs in front of his Malibu house today due to a complaint from a random. No black man allowed in Malibu, it appears.

Wow.

tmz.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:35:01pm

I think I’m gonna lay off the BoB crowd. They’ve been told to knock it off by their leader, and they’ve been ridiculed by the hot, funny girl. At this point, they’re the voice crying in the wilderness.

i think the roll call thing, like giving him the last speech of Prime Time, is meant as a unity move, and I’m reasonably certain the Clinton folks approved it. It’s another opportunity for closure for the Sanders supporters who are persuadable - they’ll get a chance to cast their votes.

I’m not one for punitive measures as some are, because I don’t really think that gets us where we want to go. It also makes it harder for remaining BoB’ers to say they were silenced, like those idiot children I saw with tape over their mouths.

I am reminded of one of the most important lessons we learned, raising one and a half Special Needs children - you have to pick your No’s carefully.

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:42:38pm

My comedian friend that I’ve known since childhood:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:48:21pm

The saxophonist for Bruno Mars is a 9/11 Truther. Facepalm.

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TK-421  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:49:13pm

2 double shifts in a row. Tell me why I go on vacation again?!? Oh yeah, to relieve stress. F’n BS man!!

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Lidane  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:50:47pm

Re: FLOTUS speech —

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:51:39pm

Oops. Dead-thread posted. Again.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:52:48pm

re: #11 Lidane

Re: FLOTUS speech —

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I unfortunately was in the car when I heard it.

I’m listening again with video.

politico.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:53:45pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

Looks like Dre was put into cuffs in front of his Malibu house today due to a complaint from a random. No black man allowed in Malibu, it appears.

Wow.

tmz.com

That’s what he gets for being Black. In Malibu. In his own driveway.

///

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teleskiguy  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:54:46pm
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Lidane  Jul 25, 2016 • 9:56:55pm
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No Depression  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:00:41pm

Just watched Anastasia Somoza’s speech. I know the usual suspects will scream HOW DARE TEH DEMOCRATS TROT OUT A DISABLED GIRL TO BASH REPUBLICANS!1!1!!!!, but as a PWD who uses a wheelchair, it was refreshing to see someone who gets around the same way I do get a prominent speaking position for a national convention for a party. People with disabilities make up 20% of the population, but we often feel neglected and invisible, even in circles that make inclusion a priority, so I was happy to see that the Clinton campaign’s vision of America includes people in wheelchairs like Somoza and people with mental health issues like Demi Lovato. There’s a lot of work to be done in further including PWDs in society, but acknowledging that we exist is a good first step.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:02:23pm

re: #18 No Depression

Just watched Anastasia Somoza’s speech. I know the usual suspects will scream HOW DARE TEH DEMOCRATS TROT OUT A DISABLED GIRL TO BASH REPUBLICANS!1!1!!!!, but as a PWD who uses a wheelchair, it was refreshing to see someone who gets around the same way I do get a prominent speaking position for a national convention for a party. People with disabilities make up 20% of the population, but we often feel neglected and invisible, even in circles that make inclusion a priority, so I was happy to see that the Clinton campaign’s vision of America includes people in wheelchairs like Somoza and people with mental health issues like Demi Lovato. There’s a lot of work to be done in further including PWDs in society, but acknowledging that we exist is a good first step.

Fact of the matter is Republicans ARE hostile to people with disabilities. They are the ones who want get rid of ACA and its ban on denying people with pre existing conditions.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:03:22pm

re: #17 Lidane

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Yeah that GOP,, Jeff, no hate at all there.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:05:09pm

When do the delegates vote? I had hoped it was today. Or yesterday. Then the Busters wold just give up and go home before they lost. Again.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:05:20pm

whether trump becomes president or not, someday these trumpists are going to wonder how they could ever have voted for a man who spit on john mccain’s war record, who tweeted a message insulting the looks of another candidate’s wife compared to his own, and who made them cheer for protecting gay people

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:07:25pm

re: #22 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

whether trump becomes president or not, someday these trumpists are going to wonder how they could ever have voted for a man who spit on john mccain’s war record, who tweeted a message insulting the looks of another candidate’s wife compared to his own, and who made them cheer for protecting gay people

Mocked someone with a disability too which is why Ms. Somoza’s voice is a welcome addition too. I too have a disability and feel the GOP indifferent to the struggles people like me go through.

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Jenner7  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:08:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:10:23pm

re: #24 Jenner7

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His attitude to our allies is sickening.

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Jenner7  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:11:51pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

And “the right person” has to ask his royal highness or he’ll walk.

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:12:48pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Mocked someone with a disability too which is why Ms. Somoza’s voice is a welcome addition too. I too have a disability and feel the GOP indifferent to the struggles people like me go through.

I think that’s true of both parties to a degree. Disability issues aren’t “sexy” like, say, LGBT rights (and I don’t mean to pit those two issues against each other) and make people uncomfortable because the solutions aren’t as easy as ending bigotry and because disability reminds people of their frailty.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:14:16pm

I watched FLOTUS speech in full.

I feel great & am going to end it here.

Night all.

It’s going to get great.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:14:52pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Mocked someone with a disability too which is why Ms. Somoza’s voice is a welcome addition too. I too have a disability and feel the GOP indifferent to the struggles people like me go through.

i would say that it is astonishing that a person who has done and said so many horrible and unacceptable things would not be drummed out of the race instantly if we hadnt all gotten tired of saying it last fall

mocking disabled people is one of those things that should make a person a social pariah and object of scorn. how anybody can overlook this and even praise him casts doubt on who we are as a people

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:15:19pm

re: #27 No Depression

I think that’s true of both parties to a degree. Disability issues aren’t “sexy” like, say, LGBT rights (and I don’t mean to pit those two issues against each other) and make people uncomfortable because the solutions aren’t as easy as ending bigotry and because disability reminds people of their frailty.

That’s true. It’s even more tough for me since my disability is invisible. My being on the spectrum is something you can’t tell by looking at or even talking to me.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:15:32pm

re: #18 No Depression

Just watched Anastasia Somoza’s speech. I know the usual suspects will scream HOW DARE TEH DEMOCRATS TROT OUT A DISABLED GIRL TO BASH REPUBLICANS!1!1!!!!, but as a PWD who uses a wheelchair, it was refreshing to see someone who gets around the same way I do get a prominent speaking position for a national convention for a party. People with disabilities make up 20% of the population, but we often feel neglected and invisible, even in circles that make inclusion a priority, so I was happy to see that the Clinton campaign’s vision of America includes people in wheelchairs like Somoza and people with mental health issues like Demi Lovato. There’s a lot of work to be done in further including PWDs in society, but acknowledging that we exist is a good first step.

I’ll freely admit I didn’t think about it much until I met mr. klys and his family. His father is in a wheelchair and I definitely learned a lot.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:19:22pm

re: #31 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ll freely admit I didn’t think about it much until I met mr. klys and his family. His father is in a wheelchair and I definitely learned a lot.

Having extended family in laws that are immigrants has given me a look at the issue I never would have otherwise. I’ve always been pro immigrant but I never understood the complexity of it all.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:20:17pm

re: #29 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i would say that it is astonishing that a person who has done and said so many horrible and unacceptable things would not be drummed out of the race instantly if we hadnt all gotten tired of saying it last fall

mocking disabled people is one of those things that should make a person a social pariah and object of scorn. how anybody can overlook this and even praise him casts doubt on who we are as a people

There’s so much he’s done and the GOP just doesn’t care.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:24:52pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Having extended family in laws that are immigrants has given me a look at the issue I never would have otherwise. I’ve always been pro immigrant but I never understood the complexity of it all.

There’s a lot that gets evaluated differently.

Our house isn’t wheelchair accessible, not really. His dad used to have better mobility, but age is catching up and it’s gotten a lot harder. Travel is difficult (especially since his mom has back problems, which makes getting the wheelchair in and out of the car more difficult). We have to consider how well a restaurant or attraction actually handles wheelchairs, versus what they say they can do. (Some places handle it much better than others.) It was a factor we considered when deciding where to have the wedding.

I can easily say I wouldn’t have considered even 10% of that before I met mr. klys. You just end up evaluating the world differently - and I don’t actually have the physical considerations to go with it that make it that much more exhausting. It’s one reason mr. klys and I try to make it a point to do travel with them, because we know they enjoy it - and we know it’s a lot easier for them to do it with us, because we’ll handle the bags and the wheelchair and help push up hills and maneuver around.

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Anymouse  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:27:48pm

I missed much of the convention coverage today, but I got to see Michelle Obama’s, Elizabeth Warren’s, and Bernie Sanders’s speeches. CTV is covering the convention here in Canada.

All were powerful and positive. I think all three (each in their own way) did a fine job.

I noted that Dr. Jill Stein jumped right in to complain over at Huffington Post that Bernie Sanders was robbed, a charge he rejects himself. Something about Hillary Clinton winning more votes.

Off-topic: POed at my telephone company. I got an E-mail today saying we were $11 in arrears. I cannot call them, so I used the on-line chat system they have set up. The Website would not allow me to pay my phone bill though it has a section for that.

Turns out the company has decided not to allow individuals to make one-time payments anymore, except with a $3 “convenience fee.” The pressure was on in chat for me to sign up for direct deductions from a credit card. I informed them that I was a victim of identity theft last year, and I do not sign up for automatic deductions (my bank will cancel my card as suspicious activity for that).

I told the fellow in chat that I would be happy to mail a cheque if he would give me the address. He did, though I pointed out that Canada Post is mulling a strike and they might not get the cheque for some time. If they want, they can come up to Canada and try to get the $11 from me personally, or they can accept a letter, or they can waive the fee. They would not waive the fee, so my wife made a complaint to the credit card agency and the State of Nebraska.

We leave Winnipeg tomorrow, headed for Thunder Bay, Ontario. Today we went to the Canadian Museum for Human Rights. There is not enough time in one day to see the whole thing; it would take about a week. It has the history of human rights thoughts from philosophers, theologians, and politicians from Babylon to the present day. It documents genocides (a difficult portion of the museum to view, as the photography and film are quite graphic). The museum pulls no punches there nor plays favourites: It includes Canada’s residential school system as an example of genocide of First Nation peoples.

The museum is also quite an interesting bit of architecture.

The Canadian Museum for Human Rights (the first of its kind in the world)
City Centre of Winnipeg, Manitoba, seen from the Human Rights Museum
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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:28:01pm

Every lip reading of Ted Cruz is a bad lip reading. It’s like he found two drowned worms after a rainstorm and glued them to his face. Ugh.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:30:42pm

re: #34 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also I wish more houses were built to be handicap-friendly, if not accessible. The only reason they’ve been able to make it work for years is a) there’s only two rather widely spaced steps to get up into the house and b) replaced the hinges on the guest bathroom door to allow the wheelchair access. It’s still not a great solution, but it’s been workable.

For my fellow younger Lizards: consider aging in place mechanisms when looking at a place you intend to be for the long term. If not for you, your family might just thank you.

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Anymouse  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:30:55pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

That’s true. It’s even more tough for me since my disability is invisible. My being on the spectrum is something you can’t tell by looking at or even talking to me.

Tough for me too, since my own disability (epilepsy) is also invisible. Worse, death penalty states have used my epilepsy meds to kill prisoners, causing the EU to ban them for sale to the USA. (One of President Obama’s unsung victories was convincing the EU to sell phenobarbital again, with heavy restrictions on who could get it. I now have to sign an affidavit when I get it saying I won’t transfer the drug to my state government.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:32:07pm

There’s some cross stitching calling my name. Tomorrow, Lizards. :)

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:32:24pm

re: #35 Anymouse

I told the fellow in chat that I would be happy to mail a cheque if he would give me the address. He did, though I pointed out that Canada Post is mulling a strike and they might not get the cheque for some time.
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**Canadian typing detected.**

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Anymouse  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:37:07pm

re: #40 Single-handed sailor

**Canadian typing detected.**

LOL. My computer is set for Canadian English autocorrect, because I work as an editor for a Canadian publisher. I could reset it for ‘Murican spelling, but I figure people here are smart enough to figure out what all those extra “u” letters and “eh” comments after sentences mean. (::

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No Depression  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:38:05pm

Looks like the Sanders campaign played it’s part in calming things down:

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Lidane  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:41:22pm

Went back and re-watched the speeches by FLOTUS and Cory Booker.

Contrast their patriotism, hope, and optimistic tone with the doom and gloom whinefest at the RNC. It’s not even a contest.

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Anymouse  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:45:17pm

re: #43 Lidane

Went back and re-watched the speeches by FLOTUS and Cory Booker.

Contrast their patriotism, hope, and optimistic tone with the doom and gloom whinefest at the RNC. It’s not even a contest.

My wife is quite concerned that Trump could still pull it out.

She is not convinced of the Electoral College math that heavily favours Hillary Clinton.

(She also tends to be pessimistic about many things … as noted on her blog which is linked in my name here)

Seen on another site: A man commenting that women pushed Obama over Romney in 2012, but was concerned about Trump. A woman weighed in saying “don’t worry, we got this. Get out and vote and we’ll take care of the rest.”

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Kragar  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:45:51pm
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Lidane  Jul 25, 2016 • 10:52:42pm

re: #44 Anymouse

My wife is quite concerned that Trump could still pull it out.

She is not convinced of the Electoral College math that heavily favours Hillary Clinton.

(She also tends to be pessimistic about many things … as noted on her blog which is linked in my name here)

Seen on another site: A man commenting that women pushed Obama over Romney in 2012, but was concerned about Trump. A woman weighed in saying “don’t worry, we got this. Get out and vote and we’ll take care of the rest.”

She’s not wrong to be cautious. Some Democrats look at the polls and think we can just coast to November. Those people are fucking morons. It’s a long time until the election. That’s why the speeches tonight mentioned working for it by knocking on doors, registering people to vote, volunteering, etc.

Hillary is in good shape, but if Dems are smart they’ll never take it for granted.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 25, 2016 • 11:02:28pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 25, 2016 • 11:02:52pm

re: #3 TedStriker

Any time I see one of these Bad Lip Reading videos posted, I always think of Armed and Dangerous:

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I love Armed and Dangerous. It always gets one star when it shows up on TV—I guess you have to have been in the private security business to appreciate it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 25, 2016 • 11:04:24pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 25, 2016 • 11:09:48pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

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My sister tells me I have to be nice to these people because I depend on them in November.

Really? I depend on people who specifically say they’ll never vote for Hillary even if it means Trump wins? How’s that work, exactly?

However, I’ve decided to limit my expressions of exasperation to this place, where I can cut loose without worrying about offending their sensitive feelings. In the end, most of the PUMAs walked back from the edge.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 25, 2016 • 11:17:40pm

Aaaaand…I’m finally caught up. These convention threads are too much! Thanks to everybody for their blow-by-blow description and insightful commentary. Maybe tomorrow I’ll stay current. That’s a joke. Ha ha.

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Kragar  Jul 25, 2016 • 11:25:34pm
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Cheechako  Jul 26, 2016 • 12:51:29am

Looks like it’s been a long day for everyone.

CLICK…I just turned off the lights.

Good night everyone.

C

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 26, 2016 • 1:42:31am

I just read 5 articles and the comments over at News Buttholes, er Busters. There’s some serious butthurt going on over there about the first day of the Democratic National Convention.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 1:52:27am

re: #50 Blind Frog Belly White

My sister tells me I have to be nice to these people because I depend on them in November.

Really? I depend on people who specifically say they’ll never vote for Hillary even if it means Trump wins? How’s that work, exactly?

I responded to one of those people’s FB rant in pointing out that society has always had people who refused to compromise their ideals…they became anchorites and went to live out alone in the desert, since that is the only way you can live in society without compromising something…

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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 1:58:56am

I can’t sleep.

My shoulder and elbow are hurting too much.

I came downstairs to take some more painkillers and decided to see what was going on in LGF land while I wait for the painkillers to start working.

I watched the Cruz BLR.

I hope I didn’t wake up my wife.

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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 2:03:23am

I’m typing with one hand, but it’s not what you think.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 26, 2016 • 2:04:20am

re: #56 b_sharp

I can’t sleep.

My shoulder and elbow are hurting too much.

I came downstairs to take some more painkillers and decided to see what was going on in LGF land while I wait for the painkillers to start working.

I watched the Cruz BLR.

I hope I didn’t wake up my wife.

Did you take 222s? I save those for serious pain because you can’t get codeine over-the-counter in US and I rarely get to Canada anymore. I hate that US drug policies prevent use of effective pain relief.

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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 2:05:46am

re: #58 Single-handed sailor

Did you take 222s? I save those for serious pain because you can’t get codeine over-the-counter in US and I rarely get to Canada anymore. I hate that US drug policies prevent use of effective pain relief.

Just 400g Advil. I don’t have any more potent pain killers in the house.

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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 2:11:47am

Off to give sleep a second chance.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2016 • 3:24:22am

Maybe the DNC email scandal wasn’t as bad as it seems. First of all, it gave intrigue to the convention, which gets people to tune in. Second, it allowed a “unity” narrative to supplant what might have well been a “Democrats are kinda boring” narrative. And third, as a bonus, the scandal has now resulted (tentatively) in Donald Trump being tied to Vladimir Putin, which surely won’t help him with his base. Point is, Hillary Clinton may actually end up better off for having had the scandal. It’s not supposed to work that way, but then again, her husband’s approval ratings actually went up after he was impeached. Politics is a strange game.

electoral-vote.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 3:38:33am

This looks and reads like a real thing. It’s an image grab from a betting website’s comment section. View with caution.

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BlackPearl  Jul 26, 2016 • 3:39:10am

re: #24 Jenner7

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Ok, I know everyone’s asleep, but maybe Nyet or Dr. Lizardo can help answer: When I try to find out information about NATO financial obligations, I find only, here: wsj.com that countries are supposed to spend 2% of their GDP on military spending, and this seems to be a goal, not an actual treaty obligation. Do I have that right?

What I read here: talkingpointsmemo.com (linked from above) is:

We have to walk,” Trump added. “Within two days they’re calling back! Get back over here, we’ll pay you whatever the hell you want.”

“They will pay us if the right person asks,”

So Trump thinks that NATO countries are 1) treaty-required to 2) pay us, and neither of those is true.

And he’s no longer even threatening to abrogate our treaty, he’s promising to do it.

What. The. Fuck.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 3:46:45am

re: #63 BlackPearl

Ok, I know everyone’s asleep, but maybe Nyet or Dr. Lizardo can help answer: When I try to find out information about NATO financial obligations, I find only, here: wsj.com that countries are supposed to spend 2% of their GDP on military spending, and this seems to be a goal, not an actual treaty obligation. Do I have that right?

What I read here: talkingpointsmemo.com (linked from above) is:

So Trump thinks that NATO countries are 1) treaty-required to 2) pay us, and neither of those is true.

And he’s no longer even threatening to abrogate our treaty, he’s promising to do it.

What. The. Fuck.

IIRC you got it right. The rule is to assure only that the NATO partners maintain a significant military to add to any serious defensive fight in NATO’s area of operations. The existence of such forces is not limited to NATO uses. (The spending Britain did to recover the Falklands, then, applied to that goal, even though NATO sat that one out.)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2016 • 3:54:52am

re: #63 BlackPearl

Ok, I know everyone’s asleep, but maybe Nyet or Dr. Lizardo can help answer: When I try to find out information about NATO financial obligations, I find only, here: wsj.com that countries are supposed to spend 2% of their GDP on military spending, and this seems to be a goal, not an actual treaty obligation. Do I have that right?

What I read here: talkingpointsmemo.com (linked from above) is:

So Trump thinks that NATO countries are 1) treaty-required to 2) pay us, and neither of those is true.

And he’s no longer even threatening to abrogate our treaty, he’s promising to do it.

What. The. Fuck.

Without digging too much into it, as I have to work today, I think Trump may be getting his idea that NATO countries are obligated to spend 2% of GDP on national defense is him confusing that particular NATO goal with the actual treaty obligation of EU member states to run no more than an deficit of 3% (ideally, less).

He got that mixed up, I’m thinking. And they certainly don’t pay the USA that money; it goes into the NATO pot. Revealing once again that Trump suffers from profound delusions of competence.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2016 • 3:56:53am

colbert last night:

“In an unprecedented show of bias, the Democrats threw their weight behind the registered Democrat.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:05:40am

re: #64 Decatur Deb

IIRC you got it right. The rule is to assure only that the NATO partners maintain a significant military to add to any serious defensive fight in it’s area of operations. The existence of such forces is not limited to NATO uses. (The spending Britain did to recover the Falklands, then, applied to that goal, even though NATO sat that one out.)

I know Brent Scowcroft has already endorsed Hillary Clinton, but I can imagine he would have some pretty pungent thoughts about the Putin connection and the abandonment of NATO. I wonder if we’ll hear any of them?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:12:10am

For the record, NATO is not unique. We are in the following security pacts:

Australia, New Zealand, United States Security Treaty (ANZUS)
Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) with some security issues
Central Treaty Organization (CENTO)
North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
Organization of American States (OAS)
South East Asia Treaty Organization (mostly moribund).

—Wiki kludge.

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Teukka  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:14:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:14:26am

re: #68 Decatur Deb

For the record, NATO is not unique. We are in the following security pacts:

Australia, New Zealand, United States Security Treaty (ANZUS)
Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) with some security issues
Central Treaty Organization (CENTO)
North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
Organization of American States (OAS)
South East Asia Treaty Organization (mostly moribund).

All revenue sources going untapped…

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:14:32am

Michelle Obama steals the show
but she didnt steal her speech

possibly the best speaker at either convention so far

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:18:11am

Dogwalking—BBL.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:22:24am

Meanwhile, here in Ostrava,

Ostrava Transport, running public transit in the Czech Republic’s third-largest city, is planning on expanding and upgrading its existing tram fleet with 40 new low-floor trams. The news was confirmed by the agency’s head, Roman Kadlučka. The company wants the new vehicles to offer commuter comfort including air conditioning. The tender is to be conducted online for reasons of transparency. The deal is worth a reported 1.4 billion crowns.

1.4 billion Kč is about $57 million. And they’ll have AC! Woo hoo! “Low-floor” trams are good, as it makes for much better accessibility for the disabled. Some of the trams that operate around town are pretty old, from before 1989.

radio.cz

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:24:01am

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, here in Ostrava,

1.4 billion Kč is about $57 million. And they’ll have AC! Woo hoo! “Low-floor” trams are good, as it makes for much better accessibility for the disabled. Some of the trams that operate around town are pretty old, from before 1989.

radio.cz

Czech-built trams had a reputation throughout all of Eastern Europe, I believe they even ran in Moscow…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:27:01am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Czech-built trams had a reputation throughout all of Eastern Europe, I believe they even ran in Moscow…

Czech-built trams (Škoda trams, specifically) run in Portland, Oregon and a few other US cities that have streetcar systems.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:33:39am

Now I want some Rice-a-Roni.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:33:52am

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

Czech-built trams (Škoda trams, specifically) run in Portland, Oregon and a few other US cities that have streetcar systems.

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Trump will make an exception for jobs exported to any country that any of his wives come from…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:34:40am

re: #76 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Now I want some Rice-a-Roni.

and a Budweiser. No, not from Anheuser-Busch, from Budweis in Bohemia…

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:38:37am

re: #27 No Depression

I think that’s true of both parties to a degree. Disability issues aren’t “sexy” like, say, LGBT rights (and I don’t mean to pit those two issues against each other) and make people uncomfortable because the solutions aren’t as easy as ending bigotry and because disability reminds people of their frailty.

My mixed feelings are that LGBT’s are perceived as “affluent”, while the disabled are economically disadvantaged.

A cruel irony is that I have known quite a few disabled LGBT people who are no less disadvantaged (that’s intersectionality for you.)

Essentially, people think, “LGBT’s make money, disabled people don’t.” I’m not proud of that feeling, but there it is.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:39:44am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump will make an exception for jobs exported to any country that any of his wives come from…

Heh.

Škoda has a well-earned reputation for their trams. Hell, now even their cars are highly thought of. Škoda Auto is part of the VW Group. I’ve heard that they want to introduce Škoda in the USA - I hope they do.

And yes, Škoda makes small cars too:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:46:59am

re: #79 Sherlock Hound

Essentially, people think, “LGBT’s make money, disabled people don’t.” I’m not proud of that feeling, but there it is.

It helps your financial situation if your education and career are not sidelined by bearing and raising young children.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 26, 2016 • 4:47:34am

this isn’t mine:

It was so hot in Philly last night, Hillary met with Bernie Sanders supporters for the chilly reception.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:08:58am

BBL. Off to work. :)

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BlackPearl  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:13:23am

Ok, just verifying that it’s not just that Trump wants to up-end the entire post-Cold-War polity, and possibly trigger nuclear war…

by turning a mutual defense pact into an extortion racket…

it’s that he’s so much of a moron that he doesn’t realize it isn’t an extortion racket already.

National media can mention this any day now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:17:21am

re: #84 BlackPearl

National media can mention this any day now.

Pointless, because the general population have even less of a clue as Trump.

Which is a reason he is so damn popular…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:18:21am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

Škoda has a well-earned reputation for their trams. Hell, now even their cars are highly thought of. Škoda Auto is part of the VW Group. I’ve heard that they want to introduce Škoda in the USA - I hope they do.

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Skoda light trucks were workhorses all over Israel, and their plants made many of the best of the Warsaw Pact’s armaments.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:20:11am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

Škoda has a well-earned reputation for their trams. Hell, now even their cars are highly thought of. Škoda Auto is part of the VW Group. I’ve heard that they want to introduce Škoda in the USA - I hope they do.

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They’ll never be as far ahead of their time as the Tatra T77 of 1934.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:23:31am

re: #87 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Sorry, that was an 87. Here’s a 77:

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:25:44am

re: #87 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’ll never be as far ahead of their time as the Tatra T77 of 1934.

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re: #88 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Sorry, that was an 87. Here’s a 77:

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There’s a couple of Tatras in the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville, IIRC.

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Jayleia  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:37:21am

I don’t know if this has been brought up earlier, but…

THIS HAPPENED

She SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED that assignment, this sounds like one of those wingnut “reverse sexism/racism” setups.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:38:27am

There are signs of encouragement on Facebook this morning - a friend who was all-in for Bernie has jumped to Team Clinton and is feeding blue hell to the Busters who are still whining and threatening to vote Stein/Johnson/Trump.

I take his acceptance of the Dem nominee to be a very good sign.

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:41:40am

re: #67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I know Brent Scowcroft has already endorsed Hillary Clinton, but I can imagine he would have some pretty pungent thoughts about the Putin connection and the abandonment of NATO. I wonder if we’ll hear any of them?

Let’s not gloss over the fact that when Brent Scowcroft “speaks” in public, he’s a ventriloquist’s dummy. The voice you hear is George Herbert Walker Bush.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:42:14am

re: #90 Jayleia

I don’t know if this has been brought up earlier, but…

THIS HAPPENED

She SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED that assignment, this sounds like one of those wingnut “reverse sexism/racism” setups.

What in the.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:42:44am

re: #90 Jayleia

I don’t know if this has been brought up earlier, but…

THIS HAPPENED

She SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED that assignment, this sounds like one of those wingnut “reverse sexism/racism” setups.

Expecting American college graduates to master a foreign language?

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lizardofid  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:43:36am

Morning all

I just finished watching the last nights speeches, and take away a couple of thoughts.

First, I hope the waters are somewhat calmed now.

Second, I don’t know what the first family’s plans for the future are, but I’ll bet many would welcome the chance to cast a vote for Michelle Obama, for something.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:44:37am

re: #92 sagehen

Let’s not gloss over the fact that when Brent Scowcroft “speaks” in public, he’s a ventriloquist’s dummy. The voice you hear is George Herbert Walker Bush.

Didn’t Scowcroft express disapproval of Iraq while HW supported it? Granted it was his son. I do have no doubt that the FP of Trump disturbs him though, HW Bush values diplomacy a lot, far more than most Republicans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:44:49am

re: #95 lizardofid

Morning all

I just finished watching the last nights speeches, and take away a couple of thoughts.

First, I hope the waters are somewhat calmed now.

Second, I don’t know what the first family’s plans for the future are, but I’ll bet many would welcome the chance to cast a vote for Michelle Obama, for something.

Would be great to see her run for President some day, but I somehow don’t see that in the cards.

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:45:14am

re: #79 Sherlock Hound

My mixed feelings are that LGBT’s are perceived as “affluent”, while the disabled are economically disadvantaged.

A cruel irony is that I have known quite a few disabled LGBT people who are no less disadvantaged (that’s intersectionality for you.)

Essentially, people think, “LGBT’s make money, disabled people don’t.” I’m not proud of that feeling, but there it is.

It’s not about how much they make, but how much they have to spend for being in that category. LGBT’s don’t have accidental pregnancies that require diapers and strollers and public schools, while the disabled have all kinds of medical expenses, home renovation expenses, caretaker expenses.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:46:46am

re: #95 lizardofid

Morning all

I just finished watching the last nights speeches, and take away a couple of thoughts.

First, I hope the waters are somewhat calmed now.

Second, I don’t know what the first family’s plans for the future are, but I’ll bet many would welcome the chance to cast a vote for Michelle Obama, for something.

I believe the Obamas will be in DC through 2019. They want their youngest daughter not to have to change high schools. No word where they will be residing though- DC, Virginia, or Maryland.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:47:11am

re: #98 sagehen

It’s not about how much they make, but how much they have to spend for being in that category. LGBT’s don’t have accidental pregnancies that require diapers and strollers and public schools, while the disabled have all kinds of medical expenses, home renovation expenses, caretaker expenses.

Higher disposable incomes, yes…and LGBT’s are more likely to rent and invest in something other than real estate as they are less likely to be looking for a three-bedroom house with a large backyard and a good school system.

Just like 18-34-year-olds actually have higher disposable incomes than the older demographics, because less of their income is tied up in mortgages, life insurance, savings plans, etc…

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Joe Bacon  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:48:51am

re: #98 sagehen

It’s not about how much they make, but how much they have to spend for being in that category. LGBT’s don’t have accidental pregnancies that require diapers and strollers and public schools, while the disabled have all kinds of medical expenses, home renovation expenses, caretaker expenses.

No, but I do have LBGT friends who have adopted infants and have built loving stable families. And I say that as someone who struggles to work full time with rheumatoid arthritis and type 2 diabetes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:52:09am

Speaking of disabilities, Rauter in Illinois I believe cut funding for autism research on autism awareness day. A real dickies have move.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:52:15am

re: #95 lizardofid

Morning all

I just finished watching the last nights speeches, and take away a couple of thoughts.

First, I hope the waters are somewhat calmed now.

Second, I don’t know what the first family’s plans for the future are, but I’ll bet many would welcome the chance to cast a vote for Michelle Obama, for something.

I’d like to see the DNC let the Bernie delegates know, in no uncertain terms, that clowntime is over. The Bernie delegates had their night to get it out of their system, and they should be on their best behavior or face having their credentials revoked.

They had their little protest, but it’s over. Time to get serious. No more catcalls or interruptions. The Busters do not run this show. They can get with the program or head back home. Maybe that’s a little extreme, but that’s how I feel.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:52:43am

re: #101 Joe Bacon

No, but I do have LBGT friends who have adopted infants and have built loving stable families. And I say that as someone who struggles to work full time with rheumatoid arthritis and type 2 diabetes.

Of course, and I think that is a great thing, but they generally only give out kids to couples who are well financially established. That is a bit different from a lot of young families struggling to balance pregnancy, child care and work all at the same time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:53:19am

re: #103 makeitstop

I’d like to see the DNC let the Bernie delegates know, in no uncertain terms, that clowntime is over. The Bernie delegates had their night to get it out of their system, and they should be on their best behavior or face having their credentials revoked.

They had their little protest, but it’s over. Time to get serious. No more catcalls or interruptions. The Busters do not run this show. They can get with the program or head back home. Maybe that’s a little extreme, but that’s how I feel.

They should have been told that a long time ago…

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:56:58am

re: #96 HappyWarrior

Didn’t Scowcroft express disapproval of Iraq while HW supported it? Granted it was his son. I do have no doubt that the FP of Trump disturbs him though, HW Bush values diplomacy a lot, far more than most Republicans.

HW said nothing in public, but he allowed Scowcroft to publish an op-ed opposing the invasion in… I can’t remember now if it was NYT or WSJ. But it was quite pointed.

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lizardofid  Jul 26, 2016 • 5:58:11am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Would be great to see her run for President some day, but I somehow don’t see that in the cards.

You’re probably right, it is a lot to ask of a family. As we’re witnessing now, it’s a lot of abuse to bear, over the course of a couples life. Both have to want it pretty bad. I just think she’s got an incredible ability to persuade. Bet she is formidable in a courtroom.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:01:01am

re: #106 sagehen

HW said nothing in public, but he allowed Scowcroft to publish an op-ed opposing the invasion in… I can’t remember now if it was NYT or WSJ. But it was quite pointed.

Oh okay. On a related note since General Scowcroft worked with President Ford too I believe, Ford opposed Iraq too privately.

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jeffreyw  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:01:27am

Good morning!

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Franklin  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:01:41am

Proud of my Mayor for his speech yesterday. Great speech on labor:

“Good evening. My name is Marty Walsh, and I’m an alcoholic. On April 23, 1995, I hit rock bottom. I woke up with little memory of the night before, and even less hope for the days to come. Everybody was losing faith in me—everybody except my family and the labor movement.”

Boston Mayor Marty Walsh speaks @ DNC 2016

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lizardofid  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:03:11am

re: #103 makeitstop

I’d like to see the DNC let the Bernie delegates know, in no uncertain terms, that clowntime is over. The Bernie delegates had their night to get it out of their system, and they should be on their best behavior or face having their credentials revoked.

They had their little protest, but it’s over. Time to get serious. No more catcalls or interruptions. The Busters do not run this show. They can get with the program or head back home. Maybe that’s a little extreme, but that’s how I feel.

Your feelings are understandable, the stakes are too high. I believe that was clearly explained to the bb’s last night, and further protest is simple obstinance.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:04:52am

re: #68 Decatur Deb

For the record, NATO is not unique. We are in the following security pacts:

Australia, New Zealand, United States Security Treaty (ANZUS)
Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) with some security issues
Central Treaty Organization (CENTO)
North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
Organization of American States (OAS)
South East Asia Treaty Organization (mostly moribund).

—Wiki kludge.

The Obama administration has breathed a lot of new life into ANZUS, the U.S. has a ship visiting New Zealand for the first time in over three decades.
m.nzherald.co.nz

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:05:02am

re: #111 lizardofid

Your feelings are understandable, the stakes are too high. I believe that was clearly explained to the bb’s last night, and further protest is simple obstinance.

I hope so. Like I said, a lot of people who I thought to be Busters on my Facebook seem to have come around. A lot haven’t, but the ones who have see the import of moving ahead as a united party.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:09:24am

re: #112 Timothy Watson

The Obama administration has breathed a lot of new life into ANZUS, the U.S. has a ship visiting New Zealand for the first time in over three decades.

That is just his cover, he is there breeding a secret army of Orcs…

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:09:25am

Greets and saluts from the gloriously sunny and much less humid NYC metro area. We’re in the midst of the longest heat wave in more than a decade, while the world bakes with 14 straight months of record high temps.

This is indisputable fact.

Trump and the GOP think that those temps are a mirage. They’re just something concocted by big science and govt scientists who are getting rich on payments from govt agencies that are underfunded and not given sufficient resources to do the kinds of research needed to vastly expand our knowledge and understanding of the natural world.

On the other hand, you’ve got Democrats who understand the threats and challenges, and want to work together to innovate, educate, and expand opportunities.

The parties are alike.

Seriously. They’re alike.

The candidates are alike too.

This was the scene at the GOP HQ and Trump writers:

Meanwhile, the Democrats ran out Cory Booker who invigorated the crowd and showed how Democrats actually have a message. Then First Lady Obama called out Trump without actually mentioning his name. She took him out behind the woodshed and fed him into a wood chipper, but without any of the angry rhetoric and vitriol that the GOP muster when referring to Democrats or HRC in particular.

It was an inspiring speech, and it was definitely a highlight of the evening. Then, you had Elizabeth Warren, whose speech was overshadowed by her two prior speakers. That’s a tough spot, but she handled the case with aplomb.

The end of the evening was with Bernie, who once again stated there’s no daylight between him and Clinton, and that we must defeat Trump.

So, what did the media focus on? The handful of hecklers. Because that’s what’s important. The media has to spin to show that there’s dissent, even though the room was enthralled by the speakers, and the message was a direct rebuke to the dystopian young adult fictional world that the RNC has ascribed to. Even then, the Democrats are united, while outsiders attempt to throw the election.

Then, you’ve got Trump who can barely string together a few words without saying something angry and bitter.

The GOP critics will always criticize the Democrats; they might say (and I’ve seen some instances on twitter) that the Democrats didn’t even mention IS last night. As if that’s the only or even the most vital threat to the US. We do far more damage to ourselves with incessant gun violence and the associated health care costs. 33,000 are killed every year through gun violence. That’s 33,000 families torn apart. That have futures denied.

And that doesn’t even take into account the health care costs from all the shootings that don’t result in deaths. That’s billions upon billions of dollars that need not be spent on that kind of care, and could be spent on education or roads or medical research.

Or the billions spent on criminal justice and incarceration. Not just for violent offenders, but the nonviolent offenders who are imprisoned under laws that are disproportionately affecting minority communities.

I got the message last night.

Many Democrats also got that message.

Trump, however, is too busy counting applause lines to be reached for comment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:12:48am

The DNC leaks are right up there with the hacked climate scientist leaks: very few people seemed concerned that it was an illegal hack, they were just rejoicing in the “damage” it did to people who did not share their ideology.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:14:10am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The DNC leaks are right up there with the hacked climate scientist leaks: very few people seemed concerned that it was an illegal hack, they were just rejoicing in the “damage” it did to people who did not share their ideology.

That really is a problem in our society.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:14:31am

re: #109 jeffreyw

That looks fantastic!

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:14:43am

Cory Booker took Trump to task for his contract dealings, his failed AC casinos, and last night Trump responded with a threat - that he’d release info on the US Senator from NJ.

Booker responded this morning:

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A Mom Anon  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:17:38am

re: #79 Sherlock Hound

it also doesn’t help that organizations like Goodwill pay their disabled employees less than minimum wage and can do so legally. All while their CEO rakes in more money a year than our family sees in 10. Or that programs designed to help people get to work almost always steer their clients into and have partnerships with companies that pay minimum wage and offer little opportunity for raises and promotions. We’re dealing with that now in our house. I’m happy my son is working, but the company he works for is not promoting him or offering a raise and he’s been there close to a year now. They also won’t give him a full time job, squeaking him in at just under 30 hours a week. Disabled does not mean incapable, and it pisses me off to no end that in 2016 that still needs to be said.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:19:16am

Meanwhile, you’ve got SMOTI counting flags at the DNC:

This is what is important? Symbols over message. Flying a flag, all while ignoring what the flag represents. That’s the GOP policy and “doctrine” in a nutshell.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:20:20am

Anyhow, I find myself amused by the Republicans concern trolling the diseffected Bernie supporters by telling them that Bernie was treated like crap by the DNC and Democratic Party. First off, let’s ask ourselves this. Would the GOP have let someone who wasn’t a Republican run as a Republican? No, probably not. Secondly, let’s look and Lawhawk has posted this but under the Republican Party’s rules on delegates in primaries, Sanders would have been beaten by even more. And finally they also listened on the platform too. What they’re not doing of course is giving Bernie the nomination because he didn’t win it and they’re celebrating Clinton because she did win it. I never was a big HRC fan but so much of the shit she takes is based in lies and bullshit. She’s called grudge holding yet campaigned her ass off for a former rival and became his Secretary of State. Repeatedly praised Bernie after she clinched the nomination in June. And Kaine was an early supporter of Obama’s eight years ago. Clinton has her faults but she’s not uniquely this monster her detractors left and right want to make her out to be. In fact, she has many virtues. Barney Frank talked about how she was the first First Lady to march in a gay pride parade and how much that meant to people there. He talked about the many people there who were ostracized by their own families who could see the First Lady of the United States supporting them. I think it’s seemingly little things like that the Sanders diehards never understood about Clinton.

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:20:43am

re: #119 lawhawk

Say what you want about Trump, but he would be the best Grand Nagus ever.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:22:02am

re: #121 lawhawk

Meanwhile, you’ve got SMOTI counting flags at the DNC:

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This is what is important? Symbols over message. Flying a flag, all while ignoring what the flag represents. That’s the GOP policy and “doctrine” in a nutshell.

As I’ve said before, wingnuts are obsessed with stupid optics. NO FLAGS THEY MUST HATE AMERICA. Even though, it’s Jim’s pal Trump that repeatedly trashes America’s military. The Republicans can wave all the flags they fucking want. I’ll take the party that actually stands by the American people time and time again.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:22:14am

re: #119 lawhawk

Cory Booker took Trump to task for his contract dealings, his failed AC casinos, and last night Trump responded with a threat - that he’d release info on the US Senator from NJ.

Booker responded this morning:

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Bad translation. That’s “Fuck you, Donald trump.”

“Let me help, I speak Joisey.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:22:23am

re: #121 lawhawk

Meanwhile, you’ve got SMOTI counting flags at the DNC:

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This is what is important? Symbols over message. Flying a flag, all while ignoring what the flag represents. That’s the GOP policy and “doctrine” in a nutshell.

People who don not understand what something really means (masculinity, patriotism, religion) cling to often arbitrary symbols to express themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:26:25am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

it also doesn’t help that organizations like Goodwill pay their disabled employees less than minimum wage and can do so legally. All while their CEO rakes in more money a year than our family sees in 10. Or that programs designed to help people get to work almost always steer their clients into and have partnerships with companies that pay minimum wage and offer little opportunity for raises and promotions. We’re dealing with that now in our house. I’m happy my son is working, but the company he works for is not promoting him or offering a raise and he’s been there close to a year now. They also won’t give him a full time job, squeaking him in at just under 30 hours a week. Disabled does not mean incapable, and it pisses me off to no end that in 2016 that still needs to be said.

I totally feel you. As you know, your son and I have the same condition. To be completely honest with everyone, I’m always conflicted as hell about disclosing my Asperger’s in a job interview because I know the stigma that goes with disability but on the other hand, I’m afraid if I don’t disclose it, my quirks will be seen as character flaws. The Federal government under Obama to its credit has made an effort to hire more people with disabilities but the implementation of it sucks. I don’t blame Obama for that. Obama can’t control how agencies go through applicant resumes and Schedule A letters but it needs to get better. And you’er right. Disabled does NOT mean incapable. I really think those of of us on the spectrum struggle in a way that’s hard for many to understand since our disability isn’t obvious by looking at us or even necessarily talking to us either.

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Franklin  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:26:49am

re: #121 lawhawk

Meanwhile, you’ve got SMOTI counting flags at the DNC:

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This is what is important? Symbols over message. Flying a flag, all while ignoring what the flag represents. That’s the GOP policy and “doctrine” in a nutshell.

I BET NOONE AT THE CONVANTION EVEN HAS A BALD EAGLE OR A PICTURE OF THE CONSTITUTION IN THERE TWITTER PROFILE!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:27:56am

re: #121 lawhawk

Meanwhile, you’ve got SMOTI counting flags at the DNC:

This is what is important? Symbols over message. Flying a flag, all while ignoring what the flag represents. That’s the GOP policy and “doctrine” in a nutshell.

No Confederate Flags you say? Crazy.

//

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:27:57am

re: #123 Great White Snark

Say what you want about Trump, but he would be the best Grand Nagus ever.

He couldn’t be bothered with the rules of acquisition. He’d be too busy going bankrupt, thinking that’d be the way to make a fortune.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:28:35am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Bad translation. That’s “Fuck you, Donald trump.”

“Let me help, I speak Joisey.”

It’s the New Jersey take on Bless Your Heart.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:28:56am

re: #128 Franklin

I BET NOONE AT THE CONVANTION EVEN HAS A BALD EAGLE OR A PICTURE OF THE CONSTITUTION IN THERE TWITTER PROFILE!!!

None of them list patriot in their Twitter profile so clearly they must hate America. Really this shit is just shallow bullshit. I don’t need to see an American flag waved to see that someone loves America. I watch their actions. I watch a party that supports equal rights for all and that shows me they love America. Jim’s party? Well they just nominated a guy that mocks POWs heroism (and this is a guy who never came close to serving in the military himself too) and repeatedly trashes the military.

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:30:02am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Bad translation. That’s “Fuck you, Donald trump.”

“Let me help, I speak Joisey.”

For the benefit of RNC people who only speak Southern…

“Bless his heart.”

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:31:38am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

I am on SSI. The engagement with employment rate for people with disabilities is HORRIFICALLY low. My former state senator, who had CP himself, once said that if any other population had an 80% unemployment rate, there would be riots!

I sit on a town commission for the disabled and we’ve met, and represented many different people with different disabilities. I took care of my disabled mom, and I have many disabled friends and colleagues.

Best to you and your son.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:31:52am

How come no Benghazi! speaker last night?!?!?!?

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:33:25am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

I’m on a bus right now, the stories I could tell…

Best to you and stay cool.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:35:33am

re: #131 lawhawk

It’s the New Jersey take on Bless Your Heart.

In Britain it is like any reply that starts “With all due respect…”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:37:52am

re: #66 dangerman

colbert last night:

“In an unprecedented show of bias, the Democrats threw their weight behind the registered Democrat.”

NO TPP!!!! Lock Her Up!!!!! Hillary for Prison!!! We’re being silenced, see my tape mouth!!!11

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:41:49am

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

Without digging too much into it, as I have to work today, I think Trump may be getting his idea that NATO countries are obligated to spend 2% of GDP on national defense is him confusing that particular NATO goal with the actual treaty obligation of EU member states to run no more than an deficit of 3% (ideally, less).

He got that mixed up, I’m thinking. And they certainly don’t pay the USA that money; it goes into the NATO pot. Revealing once again that Trump suffers from profound delusions of competence.

I’m sure that Trump thinks they have to pay that money to him. He’ll make sure it goes to the right place.

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Franklin  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:43:04am

re: #139 Skip Intro

I’m sure that Trump thinks they have to pay that money to him. He’ll make sure it goes to the right place.

Yep, it’s a protection racket.

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BigPapa  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:43:47am

After yesterday’s run of great speeches and speakers hard to see it getting any better. Then there’s shit like this:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:44:58am

Never Hillary! Only Bernie! No TPP!

You do know that Hillary opposes the TPP?

Overturn Citizens United!

You do know that Hillary is pledging to overturn Citizens United?

Free college! More Bernie in platform!

You do know that Hillary has adopted Bernie’s pledge for free public college education and Bernie helped write the platform?

….Bernie’s a sell out! We won’t be dictated to!1

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:46:18am

re: #141 SoundGuy 2016

After yesterday’s run of great speeches and speakers hard to see it getting any better. Then there’s shit like this:

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Jesus.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:46:23am

re: #141 SoundGuy 2016

After yesterday’s run of great speeches and speakers hard to see it getting any better. Then there’s shit like this:

Bill and Barack haven’t given their speeches yet.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:47:29am

re: #141 SoundGuy 2016

After yesterday’s run of great speeches and speakers hard to see it getting any better. Then there’s shit like this:

Also, he should have met with them. The creature just wants a name.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:48:33am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Jesus.

Morans. They should go join the Tea Party.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:48:45am

re: #141 SoundGuy 2016

After yesterday’s run of great speeches and speakers hard to see it getting any better. Then there’s shit like this:

[Embedded content]

He just needs to tell them to fuck off at this point. That he lost fair and square. That won’t make them go away or shut them up but it’s the truth.

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:49:10am

So Trump has a new name for Hillary. Tell me if you’ve heard it before.

Ready?

Hillary Rotten Clinton. Five year old Donny is back in charge.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:49:47am

re: #148 Skip Intro

So Trump has a new name for Hillary. Tell me if you’ve heard it before.

Ready?

Hillary Rotten Clinton. Five year old Donny is back in charge.

She probably heard that when she was five.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:50:08am

re: #146 Sir John Barron

Morans. They should go join the Tea Party.

I know there are some who don’t feel bad for him at all but I do a little. I think success got to him.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:50:20am

Today’s entry into cognitive dissonance world.

The GOP, particularly outfits like Heritage, have claimed that there’s no constitutional right to privacy. That’s the party line, and they’ve used it repeatedly to attack SCT decisions on birth control from Griswold on down to the abortion cases.

But now, Heritage and other right wing groups are claiming that there’s a right to bodily privacy - not to protect the rights of people, but to deny transgenders access to bathrooms.

For starters, these people don’t quite get the concept of bathrooms and how they work. No one is seeing anything in a stall that is locked from the inside. These people don’t quite get how to enforce the law they suppose should exist (and use HB2 as a guide) even though the law is unenforceable without being the epitome of invasiveness.

This is yet another signal that the GOP isn’t about small government. It’s just about government that fixates on perpetuating the status quo, and keeping people in their place.

This is about power.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:50:39am

re: #148 Skip Intro

So Trump has a new name for Hillary. Tell me if you’ve heard it before.

Ready?

Hillary Rotten Clinton. Five year old Donny is back in charge.

Donald Juvenile Trump. See, Donald, we’re all capable of returning to third grade with you.

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BigPapa  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:51:14am

Bernie needs to go to meetings and yell at them to get a freaking grip. The GOP controls Congress: he’s a Senator. Tell them to get Dems elected so he can fly the Socialist flag from a higher position and actually get shit done.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:51:32am

re: #149 Belafon

She probably heard that when she was five.

She was just Hillary Diane Rodham, so it would have been Hillary Dumb-Dumb Rodham.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:52:09am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

She was just Hillary Diane Rodham, so it would have been Hillary Dumb-Dumb Rodham.

HIllary Dumb-Dumb Rotten.

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BigPapa  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:52:52am

re: #144 Belafon

Bill and Barack haven’t given their speeches yet.

Yeah, I have high expectations.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:52:54am

re: #148 Skip Intro

So Trump has a new name for Hillary. Tell me if you’ve heard it before.

Ready?

Hillary Rotten Clinton. Five year old Donny is back in charge.

Very presidential this guy.

/

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:53:34am

re: #153 SoundGuy 2016

Bernie needs to go to meetings and yell at them to get a freaking grip. The GOP controls Congress: he’s a Senator. Tell them to get Dems elected so he can fly the Socialist flag from a higher position and actually get shit done.

He needs to tell those who think Jill Stein is peachy that she wanted an alliance with Gary Johnson, a man whose views on economics are anathema to everything Bernie believes about economics. Simply put, they may not like Hillary but they’ll definitely get a lot more of what they want if they work for Hillary and a Democratic Congress. A moderate minded executive with a liberal Congress is better than a liberal minded executive with a conservative Congress.

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lizardofid  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:54:18am

Later Lizards, there’s a 6 hp motor that’s going grow attached to my bench if I don’t relocate it.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:54:25am

re: #141 SoundGuy 2016

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:54:54am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

He was so proud of it last night in NC he repeated it three times in a row.

Oh, and he’s also threatening to not pay for the room where his most recent hate fest was held because he though the temperature was to hot.

Why anyone, anywhere would do business with this family of theives is beyond me.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:55:07am
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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:56:16am

re: #160 lawhawk

I have to say I really like that comeback. It’s what you have to say to those obviously privileged fucks.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 6:56:29am

re: #161 Skip Intro

He was so proud of it last night in NC he repeated it three times in a row.

Oh, and he’s also threatening to not pay for the room where his most recent hate fest was held because he though the temperature was to hot.

Why anyone, anywhere would do business with the family of theives is beyond me.

Yeah, Donald Jr, that’s your “blue collar billionaire” Dad trying to get out of paying for a hotel room because it was too hot. This family sucks.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:00:53am

re: #160 lawhawk

It’s hard to boo don’t you see the tape on my mouth from DNC???!?

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:01:30am

My mistake. It was Virginia, not NC.

Anyway, here’s the response from the locals.

roanoke.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:05:17am

re: #166 Skip Intro

My mistake. It was Virginia, not NC.

Anyway, here’s the response from the locals.

roanoke.com

Would it be wrong for Clinton to mock him for this on the campaign trail? I mean, he wants to make himself out ot be a blue collar type, a real man’s man type and here he is trying to get out of paying for a hotel room because it was too hot. I’ve had accommodations that weren’t 100% to my comfort but I never would try to get out of them and I definitely wouldn’t try to get out of paying for it if I had the amount of money Trump claims to have.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:05:22am

re: #15 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Video

Morning!

I checked out ‘skiguy’s Koala video and this was one of the other videos shown after it finished.

Good ol’ HA HA HA HA HA Good one!

Damn, he is too much to take. I think he could talk about anything and it would be gag inducing. Even his voice grates the way he delivers. It’s like a bad WWII news real narrator.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz WikiLeaks Email: Bernie Is Not Going to Be President. How would she know?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:08:03am

re: #168 ObserverArt

Morning!

I checked out ‘skiguy’s Koala video and this was one of the other videos shown after it finished.

Good ol’ HA HA HA HA HA Good one!

Damn, he is too much to take. I think he could talk about anything and it would be gag inducing. Even his voice grates the way he delivers. It’s like a bad WWII news real narrator.

[Embedded content]

What I noticed about him yesterday is he takes some glee in that Clinton supporters are scared by Trump being elected but I noticed he has none himself. It shows what a privileged man baby he is.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:08:47am

re: #166 Skip Intro

My mistake. It was Virginia, not NC.

Anyway, here’s the response from the locals.

roanoke.com

Nice smackdown.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:08:56am

So I did a YouTube search for last night’s various speeches including “Bernie Sanders Endorses Hillary Clinton” and found a whole bunch of utterly deranged videos posted by HAHA GOODMAN.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:09:10am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

What I noticed about him yesterday is he takes some glee in that Clinton supporters are scared by Trump being elected but I noticed he has none himself. It shows what a privileged man baby he is.

There are assholes, both right and left, who are convinced that America is going to collapse and that electing Trump will help speed up the process so we can hit bottom and start on the road to recovery…

assholes

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:09:46am

HAHA GOODMAN is the Dudebro equivalent of SMOTI.

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Franklin  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:10:08am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Would it be wrong for Clinton to mock him for this on the campaign trail? I mean, he wants to make himself out ot be a blue collar type, a real man’s man type and here he is trying to get out of paying for a hotel room because it was too hot. I’ve had accommodations that weren’t 100% to my comfort but I never would try to get out of them and I definitely wouldn’t try to get out of paying for it if I had the amount of money Trump claims to have.

I think FLOTUS nailed it last night. “When they go low…we go high”. I welled up hearing her say that. What a great line and a succinct message to our children.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:10:29am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are assholes, both right and left, who are convinced that America is going to collapse and that electing Trump will help speed up the process so we can hit bottom and start on the road to recovery…

assholes

It’s fucking sick. And honestly I’m sick of people who have never lived through an actual revolution glamorizing it. Revolution should be as rare as possible. Change should be constant. If that makes any sense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:11:07am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

It’s fucking sick. And honestly I’m sick of people who have never lived through an actual revolution glamorizing it. Revolution should be as rare as possible. Change should be constant. If that makes any sense.

unicorns should be universally distributed

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:12:29am

re: #174 Franklin

I think FLOTUS nailed it last night. “When they go low…we go high”. I welled up hearing her say that. What a great line and a succinct message to our children.

What I saw last night from the speakers shows me that ideology aside, the big difference between the two parties is that one party really couldn’t care less if something bad happens to you or your family, the other actually does. I’m not saying individual Republicans can’t be caring and loving people but I am saying their party’s mindset is pretty much fuck you if you run into hard times.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:12:31am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

unicorns should be universally distributed

Unless you find 350 million, kill them all, so no one else can have one.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:12:50am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Incrementalism versus revolutionary.

You’d think the French experience would have taught people that (multiple revolutions). Glamorizing the notion of revolution, without realizing that there’s a lot of heavy lifting and that the costs of a revolution are borne on those least able to afford them (a very common theme among the privileged who think they’re the ones truly burdened).

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Lancelot Link  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:13:33am

So an hour or two ago I ended up, through some subconscious act of masochism, at a HuffPo page entitled “Still Not Too Late For Sanders”.
It was written yesterday.
Oh my. The Comments!
I haven’t seen such a calm, dignified, mature reaction since Zayn Malik left One Direction.

Funniest Commercial Ever | Annoying Kids | Best Condom Ad

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:14:03am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

What I saw last night from the speakers shows me that ideology aside, the big difference between the two parties is that one party really couldn’t care less if something bad happens to you or your family, the other actually does. I’m not saying individual Republicans can’t be caring and loving people but I am saying their party’s mindset is pretty much fuck you if you run into hard times.

The Republican convention was about Republicans - which means whites - maintaining power. Whatever it takes to maintain that power, even if the country as a whole has to go into the shitter because of it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:14:32am

re: #179 lawhawk

Incrementalism versus revolutionary.

You’d think the French experience would have taught people that (multiple revolutions). Glamorizing the notion of revolution, without realizing that there’s a lot of heavy lifting and that the costs of a revolution are borne on those least able to afford them (a very common theme among the privileged who think they’re the ones truly burdened).

It’s the same thing with Civil War. But yes, you got what I meant exactly. I’m an incrementalist not a revolutionary. I know we’ll never have a perfect society but I do believe it’s each generation’s responsibility to make the world a better place for its succeeding generations.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:16:00am

So apparently Trump got a ballroom full of VFWyous to chant “Lock Her Up” at the mention of Hillary’s name.

This is the kind of stuff we’re up against.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:16:52am

re: #181 Belafon

The Republican convention was about Republicans - which means whites - maintaining power. Whatever it takes to maintain that power, even if the country as a whole has to go into the shitter because of it.

You even had Steve fucking King say that we owe everything to white people. My brothers and I were talking one night about how many foodstuffs we’re so used are actually from the New World and not the old world. I bought the one brother a book called 1491 which pretty much destroys the thesis that Columbus helped usher in the colonization of a continent devoid of civilization and advancement.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:17:44am

Bernie being Bernie:

And you wonder why so many lifelong Democrats question Bernie’s motives and didn’t trust him, including those at the DNC? There you have it.

He’s not interested in working with the DNC or improving the Democratic party. He’s interested in doing his own thing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:18:16am

re: #183 Sir John Barron

So apparently Trump got a ballroom full of VFWyous to chant “Lock Her Up” at the mention of Hillary’s name.

This is the kind of stuff we’re up against.

Agh you’d think they’d know better even if the VFW is known to be quite right wing and he’s in some pretty right wing areas.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:18:42am

re: #183 Sir John Barron

So apparently Trump got a ballroom full of VFWyous to chant “Lock Her Up” at the mention of Hillary’s name.

This is the kind of stuff we’re up against.

Not sure if or how HRC should address this. Part of me realizes this is merely the continuance of the RWNJ ugliness that’s been present since at least 1960. Part of me thinks it would be good for her to have some kind of retort. I don’t think much of this crowd can be won over. But people can be discouraged from latching onto it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:19:19am

re: #185 lawhawk

Bernie being Bernie:

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And you wonder why so many lifelong Democrats question Bernie’s motives and didn’t trust him, including those at the DNC? There you have it.

He’s not interested in working with the DNC or improving the Democratic party. He’s interested in doing his own thing.

He just proved the DNC was right about him in those emails then.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:20:06am

re: #187 Sir John Barron

Not sure if or how HRC should address this. Part of me realizes this is merely the continuance of the RWNJ ugliness that’s been present since at least 1960. Part of me thinks it would be good for her to have some kind of retort. I don’t think much of this crowd can be won over. But people can be discouraged from latching onto it.

So, can HRC turn this into a positive somehow, or is it best to just ignore it?

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jeffreyw  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:20:16am

re: #118 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Thanks! I got some grief when I put that up over at Reddit, they were all going “ur doin it rong! u havta mix the chorizo in with the eggs!” and I’m all “but the eggs are so purty”.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:20:22am

re: #187 Sir John Barron

Not sure if or how HRC should address this. Part of me realizes this is merely the continuance of the RWNJ ugliness that’s been present since at least 1960. Part of me thinks it would be good for her to have some kind of retort. I don’t think much of this crowd can be won over. But people can be discouraged from latching onto it.

I always thought one of Kennedy’s best moments as a candidate was addressing the Anti-Catholicism used against him. That said, this is a little more different.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:20:45am

Artist doesn’t like RNC using the viral meme he created, so he made one just for them:

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:21:07am

I don’t know all the history of Little Green Footballs other than when I started to read it back in ‘09.

I know it has become more and more liberal/progressive.

One thing I find very cool about this site is it really is made up of all kinds of people. It seems every week or more I get to read someone who comments about their personal life issues.

But what I really find touching is when people reveal something like a disability or their orientation.

Today I read that No Depression is wheelchair bound. And I find it cool that would be shared. This site is comfortable and allowing enough to have that be revealed so honestly.

Sometimes some of the reveals are so touching it brings a tear or three especially when they want to share how their issues cause people to say and do really mean things, or how politics affects them directly.

I wonder if it was that way back when the site was more conservative? Maybe some of the older members could speak to that.

I’m glad it is the way it is now.

Just wanted to say that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:21:20am

Bernie’s right, he was elected as an independent But if he sees himself that way, he really shouldn’t have sought the nomination of a party he doesn’t belong to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:21:49am

re: #181 Belafon

The Republican convention was about Republicans - which means whites - maintaining power. Whatever it takes to maintain that power, even if the country as a whole has to go into the shitter because of it.

they came out and said it as many words: we built this nation, we just let you other folks in to do the grunt work.

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:22:23am

Because her speech last night was so awesome, let’s revisit one of my all-time fave fanvids.

Say Hey (I Love You)

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:22:54am

Politifact checked Michelle Obama’s statement about the WH being built by slaves. That’s true.

Of course, the Tweet responses are, well, just see ‘em for yourself:

Slaves were paid, amiright? Holy schneikes. These people are so fact-challenged they don’t even understand the magnitude or meaning of slavery. They weren’t paid. They were slaves. They were worked to death. They were treated as chattel. They were not treated as people (and indeed, federal/state law until the Civil War treated them as a fraction of a white person - 3/5th compromise anyone).

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:22:55am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

I believe the Obamas will be in DC through 2019. They want their youngest daughter not to have to change high schools. No word where they will be residing though- DC, Virginia, or Maryland.

Yes there is word, we know that they have purchased a house in the Kalorama district. Recall the fact that is on the same planet a mosque, therefore Obama==Muslim…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:24:00am

re: #193 ObserverArt

I don’t know all the history of Little Green Footballs other than when I started to read it back in ‘09.

I know it has become more and more liberal/progressive.

One thing I find very cool about this site is it really is made up of all kinds of people. It seems every week or more I get to read someone who comments about their personal life issues.

But what I really find touching is when people reveal something like a disability or their orientation.

Today I read that No Depression is wheelchair bound. And I find it cool that would be shared. This site is comfortable and allowing enough to have that be revealed so honestly.

Sometimes some of the reveals are so touching it brings a tear or three especially when they want to share how their issues cause people to say and do really mean things, or how politics affects them directly.

I wonder if it was that way back when the site was more conservative? Maybe some of the older members could speak to that.

I’m glad it is the way it is now.

Just wanted to say that.

A lot of lizards knew I had Asperger’s when I revealed it but it felt good. This is a good crowd. I had heard of LGF before my joining. Charles was still right leaning then but Charles also was condemning Eurofascism while pretty much everyone else on the right was embracing them due to their Muslim hatreds. And Charles to his credit did a serious look at the party and people he had once associated with. Plus, Charles has excellent tunes. This is a great place to discuss music too given our host is a musician and knows his shit.

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nines09  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:24:06am

re: #151 lawhawk

It’s all about control. Control of voting districts. Control of women’s bodies. Control of judges. Control of rights and privilege. Control of wages. Control of healthcare. Control of the ability to loot and steal and bend the law to get as much money and influence as possible. Control of gender. Control of minorities. Control of the news. Control of print. Control of the internet. Everything.

The RNC was like a mob screaming “Kill!” over and over again. Who shall we kill next? Barkers trying to get you to lay down your coin for carnage. Wanton carnage. Build a wall. Deport people. Keep a religion from coming here. Abandon our allies. Let China and Russia flood the void. Open displays of racist and nazi sympathisers.

The DNC had a few Bernie supporters wanting to have their cake and eat it too, but the DNC spoke of a promise of a better future. A future that includes all Americans, new and old. A kind and strong America. The promise that Obama made good on becoming stronger.
The GOP is absolutely bankrupt. Broken. Stained beyond cleansing. They still stand behind Trump because they are beholden to the sickness they fathered. He is them.

Cure cancer or bomb Iran? Your choice.
It’s Tuesday across America.

+1dKS60u/tOcUyJu97eZ10yKWLcakj5LFt2crFxC0pzqABzIr0oHDkDR2vxq3TgJ

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:24:20am

Heh.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:25:05am

So is Donna Brazile in charge at the DNC now? I’m cool with that.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:25:36am

re: #190 jeffreyw

Thanks! I got some grief when I put that up over at Reddit, they were all going “ur doin it rong! u havta mix the chorizo in with the eggs!” and I’m all “but the eggs are so purty”.

If you’re posting at /r/food, I’m not surprised at the reactions. “ur doin it rong” is pretty much that sub’s clarion call.

I recently had chilaquiles at Surly Brewing in Minneapolis, with poached egg and pulled pork instead of chorizo. It was amazing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:28:38am

re: #197 lawhawk

Politifact checked Michelle Obama’s statement about the WH being built by slaves. That’s true.

Of course, the Tweet responses are, well, just see ‘em for yourself:

[Embedded content]

Slaves were paid, amiright? Holy schneikes. These people are so fact-challenged they don’t even understand the magnitude or meaning of slavery. They weren’t paid. They were slaves. They were worked to death. They were treated as chattel. They were not treated as people (and indeed, federal/state law until the Civil War treated them as a fraction of a white person - 3/5th compromise anyone).

No Republicans that owned slaves? Say aren’t some Neo-Confederates fond of saying that Grant owned slaves! And LOL at “Weren’t the slaves paid?” And she wasn’t doing it to crap on the Republican Party, she was doing it to talk for how as an African-American, African-Americans have gone from being enslaved laborers that built the WH to being the First Family. That’s awesome in my book. History is about perspective. Biden had a nice story in Ireland about how him and Obama both had a great great great grandfather who was a shoemaker who fled the famine and how neither dreamed their descendants would be in the VH together as President and Vice President. Republicans are so fucking sensitive whenever Democrats bring up slavery. They always have to go WELL NO REPUBLICAN LIKED SLAVERY and we know this assholes, but they’re also wrong about the Democratic Party on slavery too. It really pretty much was only the Southern Democrats that defended it to the point of war and there were southern Whigs that joined the CSA too and yes Northern Democrats including many of Lincoln’s best generals ala Hancock and key cabinet members ala Stanton that were staunch union men.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:29:09am

re: #198 Le Lapin Tueur

Yes there is word, we know that they have purchased a house in the Kalorama district. Recall the fact that is on the same planet a mosque, therefore Obama==Muslim…

Nice digs.

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Franklin  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:29:24am

re: #201 Lidane

Heh.

[Embedded content]

Life comes at you fast, yeah?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:30:31am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Agh you’d think they’d know better even if the VFW is known to be quite right wing and he’s in some pretty right wing areas.

Yeah, I just expect a little better from the VFW. And of course where this particular VFW matters as well, as you say. Not all VFW would be the same. Unless this is some kind of general convention of their’s.

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BigPapa  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:31:47am

re: #202 Sir John Barron

So is Donna Brazile in charge at the DNC now? I’m cool with that.

She seems like a great choice. Smart, strong, and an excellent dispatcher of wingnut drivel.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:32:14am

re: #197 lawhawk

Politifact checked Michelle Obama’s statement about the WH being built by slaves. That’s true.

Of course, the Tweet responses are, well, just see ‘em for yourself:

Slaves were paid, amiright? Holy schneikes. These people are so fact-challenged they don’t even understand the magnitude or meaning of slavery. They weren’t paid. They were slaves. They were worked to death. They were treated as chattel. They were not treated as people (and indeed, federal/state law until the Civil War treated them as a fraction of a white person - 3/5th compromise anyone).

Slaves has it great, man. Were fed, sheltered, got to work, got to learn English except when the master didn’t want them to.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:32:49am

Honestly, I know Republicans/conservatives think they’re being cute and doing gotchas when they point out that the Democratic Party supported slavery 150 years ago but it actually means the total opposite. It means this party that once had large amounts of slave owners in it has become the party that nominated and renominated an African-American for President. Meanwhile, the Republican Party has gone from the party that supported and gave us the 13th-15th amendments to a party that is patronized by a white supremacist fuckstickle like David Duke. So yeah wingnuts please tell us more about how the two parties when my second great great grandfather was my age and how that means shit today, 122 years after his death.

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fern01  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:32:55am

re: #119 lawhawk

Cory Booker took Trump to task for his contract dealings, his failed AC casinos, and last night Trump responded with a threat - that he’d release info on the US Senator from NJ.

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And Trump is due to get security briefings - is he going to release that info too?

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:33:52am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

You even had Steve fucking King say that we owe everything to white people. My brothers and I were talking one night about how many foodstuffs we’re so used are actually from the New World and not the old world. I bought the one brother a book called 1491 which pretty much destroys the thesis that Columbus helped usher in the colonization of a continent devoid of civilization and advancement.

How much does it talk about the Aztecs? They had indoor plumbing. (also chocolate, cocaine, popcorn and tequila. If a time machine ever wants to send me back 600 years, that’s where I’d want to go.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:34:08am

re: #207 Sir John Barron

Yeah, I just expect a little better from the VFW. And of course where this particular VFW matters as well, as you say. Not all VFW would be the same. Unless this is some kind of general convention of their’s.

Yeah. I mean I remember reading some interviews with some vets who said they were pretty conservative people but they believed that Obama as President was afforded some respect. Location matters here but I also sad to say definitely think there’s some sexism. Some of these vets just may not respect the idea of a woman commander in chief.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:35:02am

re: #212 sagehen

How much does it talk about the Aztecs? They had indoor plumbing. (also chocolate, cocaine, popcorn and tequila. If a time machine ever wants to send me back 600 years, that’s where I’d want to go.)

The human sacrifices would scare me a little. I’m going down South a little with the Incas and getting some potatoes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:35:11am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I know Republicans/conservatives think they’re being cute and doing gotchas when they point out that the Democratic Party supported slavery 150 years ago but it actually means the total opposite. It means this party that once had large amounts of slave owners in it has become the party that nominated and renominated an African-American for President. Meanwhile, the Republican Party has gone from the party that supported and gave us the 13th-15th amendments to a party that is patronized by a white supremacist fuckstickle like David Duke. So yeah wingnuts please tell us more about how the two parties when my second great great grandfather was my age and how that means shit today, 122 years after his death.

That is nuance. The GOP only does talking points and that TP is that Republicans opposed slavery and ended it.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:36:00am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

Grant’s wife came from a slave-owning family, and they continued to have slaves until the Civil War (One of the things you’ll learn going to the Grant Home and Farm in St. Louis).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:36:28am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Yeah. I mean I remember reading some interviews with some vets who said they were pretty conservative people but they believed that Obama as President was afforded some respect. Location matters here but I also sad to say definitely think there’s some sexism. Some of these vets just may not respect the idea of a woman commander in chief.

That was a key moment in the demise of the current GOP: when John McCain tried to explain at a Tea Party rally that Obama was an honorable man, they just disagreed with his politics. And was booed off the stage for being such a cuckservative…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:36:38am

re: #212 sagehen

How much does it talk about the Aztecs? They had indoor plumbing. (also chocolate, cocaine, popcorn and tequila. If a time machine ever wants to send me back 600 years, that’s where I’d want to go.)

Except for that part where they sacrificed to their gods by ripping out hearts.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:36:46am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is nuance. The GOP only does talking points and that TP is that Republicans opposed slavery and ended it.

Yep. Nuance is a motherfucker isn’t it? Honestly, I’m sad about what the Republican Party has become. I mean I’ve never been one but it’s not good in a two party system when the other major party is controlled by lunatics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:36:53am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

The human sacrifices would scare me a little. I’m going down South a little with the Incas and getting some potatoes.

and coca leaves

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Franklin  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:37:16am

re: #201 Lidane

Some funny tweets from that user in their TL right now:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:37:53am

re: #216 lawhawk

Grant’s wife came from a slave-owning family, and they continued to have slaves until the Civil War (One of the things you’ll learn going to the Grant Home and Farm in St. Louis).

Yep, his own family were abolitionists from what I remember. Never been to the Grant farm. The only two presidential homes I’ve been to are Monticello and Mount Vernon.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:37:56am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:38:31am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

Except for that part where they sacrificed to their gods by ripping out hearts.

You just have to run a little faster than your sacrificer and you’re good.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:38:48am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

Škoda has a well-earned reputation for their trams. Hell, now even their cars are highly thought of. Škoda Auto is part of the VW Group. I’ve heard that they want to introduce Škoda in the USA - I hope they do.

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And yes, Škoda makes small cars too:

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Looks like the first car is a rejiggered VW Passat. The small car appears to be a VW Polo based car.

I wonder if they are considering bringing Skoda cars to America as a way of keeping VW Group sales up since the big mess created by their arrogant diesel cheating has hurt the VW name.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:39:12am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was a key moment in the demise of the current GOP: when John McCain tried to explain at a Tea Party rally that Obama was an honorable man, they just disagreed with his politics. And was booed off the stage for being such a cuckservative…

The regular yahoos at republican party candidate’s speech I can understand. but the vets who claim they fought for freedom should have a better sense of that word than to want to imprison their party’s opposition candidate.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:40:01am

re: #223 lawhawk

SELL OUT! WE WANT BERNIE!

Can somebody welfare check HA Goodman when this happens?

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Franklin  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:40:10am

Apparently there were quite a few epic burns relating to FLOTUS’s speech:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:40:35am

re: #223 lawhawk

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That’s fine with me. It’ll make a good presentation of unity. Contrast that with Trump’s top opponent refusing to even endorse him. They’re really trying to give Bernie a chance to get in people’s good graces and it may actually make him a more effective legislator and read this Sanders fan, that means you may get some of the stuff you want passed in Congress more easily.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:41:32am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

The regular yahoos at republican party candidate’s speech I can understand. but the vets who claim they fought for freedom should have a better sense of that word than to want to imprison their party’s opposition candidate.

Yes, I expect better from vets. I mean I don’t expect them to like Clinton but it’s horse crap of them to join in an egging in that she needs to be jailed.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:41:35am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Yep, his own family were abolitionists from what I remember. Never been to the Grant farm. The only two presidential homes I’ve been to are Monticello and Mount Vernon.

In addition to hitting national parks, we’ve taken to trying to hit all the presidential sites (homes/libraries). There’s some fascinating stuff to be learned about these people.

For instance, Andrew Jackson was a staunch unionist - he went after insurrectionists while as president (including SC that sought nullification). But his own children ended up being secessionists and went with the Confederacy. Had Jackson been alive, he probably would have killed his kids.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:42:00am

yeah the VFW thing is apparently a convention, not just some local meeting.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:45:28am

re: #227 Sir John Barron

SELL OUT! WE WANT BERNIE!

Can somebody welfare check HA Goodman when this happens?

Give him 24 hours first.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:45:39am

re: #231 lawhawk

In addition to hitting national parks, we’ve taken to trying to hit all the presidential sites (homes/libraries). There’s some fascinating stuff to be learned about these people.

For instance, Andrew Jackson was a staunch unionist - he went after insurrectionists while as president (including SC that sought nullification). But his own children ended up being secessionists and went with the Confederacy. Had Jackson been alive, he probably would have killed his kids.

I actually wrote about that when I wrote a paper on Jackson in college. You’re right. Jackson, the former teenage American Revolution volunteer would not have sat idle while people destroyed the nation that his two older brothers died helping to create. I know Jackson is rightfully hated for his attitudes and treatment of Native Americans and his slaveowning but there’s things I like about Jackson. There’s also things I like about John Quincy Adams, whom he also hated and Henry Clay. I’m with Jackson on hating John Calhoun because you know fuck that guy. That sounds like fun though, do you have any good recommendations for East coast ones? I’ve always wanted to see Hyde Park or JFK’s in Brookline.

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jeffreyw  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:48:13am

re: #203 A wild WITHAK appeared!

If you’re posting at /r/food, I’m not surprised at the reactions. “ur doin it rong” is pretty much that sub’s clarion call.

I started out posting at r/food but I was shadow banned for using Flickr. I asked the mod what was up with that and he said that they didn’t like me posting from Flickr because it had my name on it. I ended up posting at r/eatsandwiches and r/tonightdinner, with occasional posts to r/foodporn.

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:51:24am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

Except for that part where they sacrificed to their gods by ripping out hearts.

When they were doing that, the plague was rampaging across Europe, where it killed almost 40% of the population. I’m thinking maybe a quick death by sacrifice isn’t the worst thing that happened to anybody in those years.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:14am

re: #236 sagehen

When they were doing that, the plague was rampaging across Europe, where it killed almost 40% of the population. I’m thinking maybe a quick death by sacrifice isn’t the worst thing that happened to anybody in those years.

Heh you do make a good point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:33am

Holy mother of dog, but my sister is the sorest of sore losers. Listening to her, you’d think HRC is some demonic beast who is only barely better than Lucifer himself.

It seems to me that Bernie folks have a choice, not just in who they vote for, but in how they approach their lives.

They could say, “We fought the good fight, and look what we’ve done! Clinton might not be our choice but with her in the WH, if we can pass it, she’ll probably sign it! Bernie’s no longer laboring in obscurity, but has built a constituency for progress that we can use to get legislation passed! And her husband appointed RBG, one of the finest SC justices ever! I’m gonna make sure we get the White House and as many Democrats into Congress as we can, to fight for America!”

Or they can keep dwelling on just how AWFUL Clinton is and how little enthusiasm they have for her, and just drag themselves to the polls in November. It’s all in whether you take your victories where you can and move on with hope, or clutch your defeats to your chest and obsess about what you didn’t get.

My sister will probably be one of the latter, and she’ll keep posting on FB about just how AWFUL Clinton is. And as a good brother, I’ll roll my eyes 3000 miles away and not say anything.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:52:56am
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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:53:02am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

it also doesn’t help that organizations like Goodwill pay their disabled employees less than minimum wage and can do so legally. All while their CEO rakes in more money a year than our family sees in 10. Or that programs designed to help people get to work almost always steer their clients into and have partnerships with companies that pay minimum wage and offer little opportunity for raises and promotions. We’re dealing with that now in our house. I’m happy my son is working, but the company he works for is not promoting him or offering a raise and he’s been there close to a year now. They also won’t give him a full time job, squeaking him in at just under 30 hours a week. Disabled does not mean incapable, and it pisses me off to no end that in 2016 that still needs to be said.

Yeah, that sucks bad. But look at how even people that have no issues of any kind are forced to work as “interns” to get s foot in the door after college or a job loss.

We really do need some work on labor laws and wages. Many politicians and one party in particular have really allowed this mess. I guess their thinking is you can never be too rich or screw the labor pool too much.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:56:32am

re: #121 lawhawk

Meanwhile, you’ve got SMOTI counting flags at the DNC:

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This is what is important? Symbols over message. Flying a flag, all while ignoring what the flag represents. That’s the GOP policy and “doctrine” in a nutshell.

A great example of Nationalism one step from Fascism. And no doubt some of those idiots would love to go full on.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:56:50am

Unpossible! Assange said there was no evidence of Russian ties to the DNC hack:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:56:58am

re: #240 ObserverArt

Yeah, that sucks bad. But look at how even people that have no issues of any kind are forced to work as “interns” to get s foot in the door after college or a job loss.

We really do need some work on labor laws and wages. Many politicians and one party in particular have really allowed this mess. I guess their thinking is you can never be too rich or screw the labor pool too much.

Agh, do NOT get me started on internships and non-paid work experiences. I’m to the point where I want it to be law that interns have to be paid at a wage. The response to that is “Oh they’re not actually necessarily going to be there long term”, that’s not the frigging point, the point is interns have expenses too. It’s just like this idiotic idea that we don’t need to pay teen workers a minimum wage because “teens don’t need money” when yes in fact they do, many need money for gas, many in fact are working a job to help their home situation, and others are trying to save up for college.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:57:47am

re: #242 Lidane

Unpossible! Assange said there was no evidence of Russian ties to the DNC hack:

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Sergei, how do you say tool in Russian?

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:58:00am

And the con goes on.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:58:02am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Well, in NYC metro area, you’ve got the TR home in Manhattan, Grant’s Tomb, and Federal Hall (because that’s where it all began for GW as POTUS). Lower Manhattan also has St. Paul’s Chapel and Trinity Church (the cemetery for which includes a couple of famous people, including someone whose life story became a Broadway sensation).

Long Island has Sagamore Hill.

Hudson Valley has Martin van Buren’s home and FDR’s home as well.

NJ has a couple of places where GW stayed, including Princeton, Monmouth, and Morristown.

Moving on up to Boston, you’d have JFK, Adams, and the Minuteman NHS, as well as Boston’s NHS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:58:13am

re: #242 Lidane

Unpossible! Assange said there was no evidence of Russian ties to the DNC hack:

So please, please, let this hack blow up in their faces just like the Planned Parenthood video scam…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 7:59:25am

re: #246 lawhawk

Well, in NYC metro area, you’ve got the TR home in Manhattan, Grant’s Tomb, and Federal Hall (because that’s where it all began for GW as POTUS). Lower Manhattan also has St. Paul’s Chapel and Trinity Church (the cemetery for which includes a couple of famous people, including someone whose life story became a Broadway sensation).

Long Island has Sagamore Hill.

Hudson Valley has Martin van Buren’s home and FDR’s home as well.

NJ has a couple of places where GW stayed, including Princeton, Monmouth, and Morristown.

Moving on up to Boston, you’d have JFK, Adams, and the Minuteman NHS, as well as Boston’s NHS.

So much to choose from.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:00:39am

a possible reason why the dems ‘let’ bernie run - a not implausible calculus may have gone on way back when

this came to me in the middle of the night. if anyone else thought of it, then it’s independent parallel development -

they could have let bernie decide to go indie. or since he was sort of close to the democrats, let him participate.

so they split the defense to focus on one a time.

they figured his ceiling was limited and overall he would lose anyway. that’s a guess on their part but still. and yeah, he did better than expected. changes nothing

by the convention he’s done. and there’s 3 mos to welcome some/most of his folks into the fold - most were already dems anyway.

the other way would have been harder for him - as an indie. no support, need build infrastructre, fund raising mechanisms, no mailing lists, etc

and no dem debates
but if he cracked 15% he’d be at the general debates
with Clinton stuck in the middle of whoever the R, plus bernie on the left

and at that point, bernie would likely go through the general. so a good chance a larger % would stay with him all the way and vote for him

as compared to the (i believe likely smaller) hard core cadre that’s left now -

i dont know if is this too obvious and i’m just catching on or just fantasy

i have no support for this either way. just musing

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:02:50am

re: #141 SoundGuy 2016

After yesterday’s run of great speeches and speakers hard to see it getting any better. Then there’s shit like this:

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Face your creation Bernie! Dammit.

I hate to say it, as it no longer matters, but this an example he is not a leader.

I like the guy, but you could tell he was all talk by some of the way he handled things throughout the campaign.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:04:47am

re: #148 Skip Intro

So Trump has a new name for Hillary. Tell me if you’ve heard it before.

Ready?

Hillary Rotten Clinton. Five year old Donny is back in charge.

I’ve known 5 year olds that have more class and feelings than Trump.

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Jay C  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:05:10am

re: #239 Lidane

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Donald Trump’s Republicans are becoming the party of blue-collar white voters, as college-educated white voters slip away.

And this is “news”? Hasn’t this been a staple trope in American political analysis since the Reagan Era?

And why should this be a surprise? Republican policies generally hurt blue-collar voters, but Republican politics sells them to the “masses” via gut appeals to prejudice (overt or coded), and repetitive simplistic sloganeering.
Which is more likely to garner electoral success (especially when backed by vast amounts of money)?

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:06:26am

re: #251 ObserverArt

I’ve known 5 year olds that have more class and feelings than Trump.

and are more clever

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:11:29am

re: #252 Jay C

And this is “news”? Hasn’t this been a staple trope in American political analysis since the Reagan Era?

And why should this be a surprise? Republican policies generally hurt blue-collar voters, but Republican politics sells them to the “masses” via gut appeals to prejudice (overt or coded), and repetitive simplistic sloganeering.
Which is more likely to garner electoral success (especially when backed by vast amounts of money)?

And because we fail to teach the basics of economics, civics and social studies in our schools, these people do not understand how destructive the GOP ideology is to their own interests.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:13:48am

re: #245 Tigger2

And the con goes on.

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I find it hard to muster sympathy for someone who a) thought he was going to get an honest deal out of Trump, and b) made those poor kids sing that lame-ass song.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:13:51am

re: #251 ObserverArt

I’ve known 5 year olds that have more class and feelings than Trump.

It’s like all those wingnuts who thought they were SO CLEVER when they came up with ‘Ellen Degenerate’ when Ellen came out.

I worried that Clinton might not do well in the face of Trump’s act during debates, till I saw her performance with Lazio in 2000. Bemused smile, not giving an inch, not cowering, not impressed. I suspect she’s dealt with many a bully over the decades.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:13:59am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Bernie’s right, he was elected as an independent But if he sees himself that way, he really shouldn’t have sought the nomination of a party he doesn’t belong to.

It is almost like he is saying he didn’t get what he wanted so screw it I’m going back to what I was all along. Very low on ideals Bernie.

And yet Trump will continue to use his name and say he was cheated in a rigged system.

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gwangung  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:16:40am

re: #238 Blind Frog Belly White

Holy mother of dog, but my sister is the sorest of sore losers. Listening to her, you’d think HRC is some demonic beast who is only barely better than Lucifer himself.

It seems to me that Bernie folks have a choice, not just in who they vote for, but in how they approach their lives.

They could say, “We fought the good fight, and look what we’ve done! Clinton might not be our choice but with her in the WH, if we can pass it, she’ll probably sign it! Bernie’s no longer laboring in obscurity, but has built a constituency for progress that we can use to get legislation passed! And her husband appointed RBG, one of the finest SC justices ever! I’m gonna make sure we get the White House and as many Democrats into Congress as we can, to fight for America!”

Or they can keep dwelling on just how AWFUL Clinton is and how little enthusiasm they have for her, and just drag themselves to the polls in November. It’s all in whether you take your victories where you can and move on with hope, or clutch your defeats to your chest and obsess about what you didn’t get.

My sister will probably be one of the latter, and she’ll keep posting on FB about just how AWFUL Clinton is. And as a good brother, I’ll roll my eyes 3000 miles away and not say anything.

You can get up, and move the ball closer with the next elections (ahem. 2018!). Or you can complain. And if you let Trump get elected, you’re gonna have to move the ball FARTHER the next time.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:17:33am

re: #258 gwangung

You can get up, and move the ball closer with the next elections (ahem. 2018!). Or you can complain. And if you let Trump get elected, you’re gonna have to move the ball FARTHER the next time.

I don’t like our QB so I’m going to get the whole team penalized fifteen yards.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:17:36am
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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:18:28am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:18:32am

re: #245 Tigger2

And the con goes on.

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Can I sue the creators of the “act” for psychological distress?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:19:35am

Too bad they didn’t put the duct tape on before shouting down Elijah Cummings.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:20:17am

Re: the “VP alt” —

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:21:02am

re: #260 lawhawk

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He’s keeping his word about doing anything to prevent Trump from getting elected. Words I may never again- Thanks George Will.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:21:21am

re: #249 dangerman

a possible reason why the dems ‘let’ bernie run - a not implausible calculus may have gone on way back when,,,

Bernie kept the Democrats and Hillary in the headlines: it would have looked bad if the whole primary process were just a formality for her.

The GOP let Trump run for the ratings boots, but they did not reckon with him stealing the whole show…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:21:28am

re: #261 lawhawk

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Lemme guess, Nina Turner?

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Brian J.  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:21:38am

re: #249 dangerman

a possible reason why the dems ‘let’ bernie run - a not implausible calculus may have gone on way back when

this came to me in the middle of the night. if anyone else thought of it, then it’s independent parallel development -

i have no support for this either way. just musing

That sounds fairly plausible. The Democrats, like Britain’s Labour Party, really didn’t take into account how many Marxists and other extreme leftists there are in this country who were waiting for the spotlight given by a major party. (Trump exposed the same phenomenon on the right.) Had the Party stuck to its guns, Sanders’ campaign would either be doing as poorly as Jill Stein’s, or perhaps combined with hers, or he’d have abandoned it when fundraising was not forthcoming.

Instead, as with Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn, the Party decided it was worthwhile to throw the far left a bone by letting one of their own run. Between outside interference (Reps/ Libertarians/ Conservatives voting for Sanders as an anti-Hillary missile; the beautiful losers of the left voting against THE EBIL ESTABLISHMENT!!!) and the party’s punctilious neutrality, they found that they’d created a monster they couldn’t stop. Worse, Sanders’ delegates, like Corbyn’s Momentum, were chosen not for political skill but for their fidelity to the Leader’s cult of personality. So that’s why I think we are where we are.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:22:08am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

Too bad they didn’t put the duct tape on before shouting down Elijah Cummings.

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The duct tape just makes them look childish. Take it from someone much younger than them.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:22:35am

re: #255 makeitstop

I find it hard to muster sympathy for someone who a) thought he was going to get an honest deal out of Trump, and b) made those poor kids sing that lame-ass song.

It is abuse.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:22:44am

re: #264 Lidane

Re: the “VP alt” —

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Dude, he smokes cigarettes, rides a motorcycle, he’s not a geek like Tim Kaine who takes piano lessons and loves his mommy.

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Brian J.  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:23:41am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Lemme guess, Nina Turner?

Same collective action problem as the NeverTrumpers; no politician with a future wants anything to do with these clowns.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:23:48am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It kept them and Hillary in the headlines: it would have looked bad if the whole primary process were just a formality for her.

The GOP let Trump run for the ratings boots, but they did not reckon with him stealing the whole show…

That’s true. It was for the best that it wasn’t a formality for her. I’m still disappointed O’Malley didn’t do better honestly. He had some liberal accomplishments compared to Bernie’s mere rhetoric.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:24:52am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

Too bad they didn’t put the duct tape on before shouting down Elijah Cummings.

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Proof that was not all “kids” that were over the top for Bernie.

And with that…time to dig in on some work. Back tonight.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:25:47am
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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:26:06am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

He’s keeping his word about doing anything to prevent Trump from getting elected. Words I may never again- Thanks George Will.

Here’s hoping one of these pissed-off old heads actually do the research and nail his hide to the shed.

A slim hope, but something I would love to see.

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Brian J.  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:26:41am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

That’s true. It was for the best that it wasn’t a formality for her. I’m still disappointed O’Malley didn’t do better honestly. He had some liberal accomplishments compared to Bernie’s mere rhetoric.

I don’t understand why people keep saying this. Given the character attacks leveled against her by Sanders and his acolytes, the money she had to burn to fend him off, and the contortions she has had to go through to get his grudging support, she’s in much worse shape than she was last fall.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:26:42am

re: #275 Lidane

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Excellent point.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:27:42am
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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:29:36am

re: #275 Lidane

There’s 435 seats in the House. Not 440. There’s 6 nonvoting seats (DC, Guam, PR, AS, USVI, and Marianas).

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:30:55am

I watched some of the DNC last night, although I didn’t stay up for the 10pm “primetime” speeches.

One of the better themes that came across and I’d like to see the campaign run with is the “Hillary listened” one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:31:38am

re: #249 dangerman

One problem that Third Parties have is that they don’t have a nominating process. Well, they DO, but it’s lacking the excitement and pageantry of the majors, largely because nobody’s ever heard of the folks running. So, while he Dems and Reps have been in the news for a year now, news cycle after news cycle, third parties sit in obscurity, eventually nominating somebody that gets reporters running to Wikipedia to figure out just who the fuck this is.

And if the DNC had shut Bernie out, the Republican Primary would be the only game in town for a year. And Hillary would not have had any chance to hone her message or her debate performance. Remember Obama’s first debate performance in 2012?

A contest, even an uneven one, sharpens the steel, AND keeps you in the news.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:32:27am

re: #277 Brian J.

I don’t understand why people keep saying this. Given the character attacks leveled against her by Sanders and his acolytes, the money she had to burn to fend him off, and the contortions she has had to go through to get his grudging support, she’s in much worse shape than she was last fall.

It would have been better for to have faced competition from actual Democratic candidates.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:33:58am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Lemme guess, Nina Turner?

Could be—the kos berners floated her name numerous times—Nina or Tulsi Gabbard seemed to be their favorites. As you probably know, I’m not a fan of either of them, and have a special disdain for Turner (who brings pretty much nothing to the table but a lot of noise.)

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:34:22am

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

One problem that Third Parties have is that they don’t have a nominating process. Well, they DO, but it’s lacking the excitement and pageantry of the majors, largely because nobody’s ever heard of the folks running. So, while he Dems and Reps have been in the news for a year now, news cycle after news cycle, third parties sit in obscurity, eventually nominating somebody that gets reporters running to Wikipedia to figure out just who the fuck this is.

And if the DNC had shut Bernie out, the Republican Primary would be the only game in town for a year. And Hillary would not have had any chance to hone her message or her debate performance. Remember Obama’s first debate performance in 2012?

A contest, even an uneven one, sharpens the steel, AND keeps you in the news.

a very good point and i agree completely. the results are obvious

in my middle of the night stupor i was thinking number/metrics only
was i even thinking?
was i awake?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:34:50am

re: #261 lawhawk

What is this press conference about?

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:37:07am

Good morning, Lizards.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:37:53am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:38:41am

re: #284 BeachDem

Could be—the kos berners floated her name numerous times—Nina or Tulsi Gabbard seemed to be their favorites. As you probably know, I’m not a fan of either of them, and have a special disdain for Turner (who brings pretty much nothing to the table but a lot of noise.)

I mentioned something you pointed out to me about Turner last night and that’s that she trashes the Clintons even though they campaigned for her in what was an ill advised SoS run in Ohio.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:39:43am

re: #283 Sir John Barron

It would have been better for to have faced competition from actual Democratic candidates.

That’s my point. I’m saying I’m disappointed that competition wasn’t someone like O’Malley. O’Malley could have challenged her from the left and not been a dishonest jerk about it.

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plansbandc  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:40:19am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

I loathe goodwill and their legal wage scam. Other, much better places to donate unwanted items.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:42:24am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:43:54am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

That’s my point. I’m saying I’m disappointed that competition wasn’t someone like O’Malley. O’Malley could have challenged her from the left and not been a dishonest jerk about it.

I wonder what a closed primary/caucus process would have looked like.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:44:35am

re: #292 Lidane

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The worst of it are there are people who think this isn’t a big deal because in their words the Dems shouldn’t have been saying shit about Bernie. That’s not the point. The point is that it’s clear that Putin wants to influence the election of someone, I’ll give you a hint he’s quite orange and assholish and he’s willing to exploit internal Democratic Party drama to get that goal. And honestly for people who insist they believe in privacy, Wikileaks showed they’re full of shit when they tried to hack the DNC staffer who was doing research on Monafort’s Russia ties.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:47:57am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

That’s my point. I’m saying I’m disappointed that competition wasn’t someone like O’Malley. O’Malley could have challenged her from the left and not been a dishonest jerk about it.

And he certainly was more positive/inspiring on the stump (imo) than shouty Bernie. I still love the section of O’Malley’s stump speech when he would say “when people ask you who I voted for, tell them I VOTED FOR YOU.”

Like you, I’m surprised he didn’t gain more traction. I was impressed when I met him and when I heard him speak. He was so much better speaking to groups than he was in the debates.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:48:15am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

The worst of it are there are people who think this isn’t a big deal because in their words the Dems shouldn’t have been saying shit about Bernie. That’s not the point. The point is that it’s clear that Putin wants to influence the election of someone, I’ll give you a hint he’s quite orange and assholish and he’s willing to exploit internal Democratic Party drama to get that goal. And honestly for people who insist they believe in privacy, Wikileaks showed they’re full of shit when they tried to hack the DNC staffer who was doing research on Monafort’s Russia ties.

A point I’m trying to make with various people is that it’s possible to a) be disappointed in the content of the emails, and concerned about what that content showed about the actions of the DNC to favor Hillary (as obvious as it may have been to those of us paying attention); and b) really fucking concerned about the fact that a foreign power is trying to influence our elections.

One of these things is much worse than the other.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:49:49am
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Ubiq  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:50:04am

For the Bernie Bros, every night of the DNC will have a different theme. Monday - “Denial and Anger”; Tuesday - “Bargaining”; Wednesday - “Depression”; Thursday - “Acceptance”.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:50:10am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:51:27am

re: #295 BeachDem

And he certainly was more positive/inspiring on the stump (imo) than shouty Bernie. I still love the section of O’Malley’s stump speech when he would say “when people ask you who I voted for, tell them I VOTED FOR YOU.”

Like you, I’m surprised he didn’t gain more traction. I was impressed when I met him and when I heard him speak. He was so much better speaking to groups than he was in the debates.

Absolutely. I mean it’s easy for me to see why Webb and Chafee flopped but a two time governor who actually increased his vote in the disastrous 2010 midterms? That just disappointed me. To be honest, I was surprised he ran, he was a very early supporter of hers in 2008. But since you brought up Gabbard, it amazes me that she’s acceptable to them but not Kaine. I know the real reason why mind you but if you think Kaine is too hawkish because he wants a war resolution against ISIS but ignore that Tulsi opposed the Iran Deal, you’re just stumping the hell outta me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:51:49am

re: #296 A wild WITHAK appeared!

A point I’m trying to make with various people is that it’s possible to a) be disappointed in the content of the emails, and concerned about what that content showed about the actions of the DNC to favor Hillary (as obvious as it may have been to those of us paying attention); and b) really fucking concerned about the fact that a foreign power is trying to influence our elections.

One of these things is much worse than the other.

Nuance is a bitch isn’t it?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:28am

re: #298 Ubiq

For the Bernie Bros, every night of the DNC will have a different theme. Monday - “Denial and Anger”; Tuesday - “Bargaining”; Wednesday - “Depression”; Thursday - “Acceptance”.

If they don’t come around, I’m hoping by Wednesday that their credentials are taken away. They had their say. They got the attention they needed. The DNC is not about them or their petty deluded protests. I hope to never see another Bernie sign the rest of my life.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:30am

re: #299 Lidane

I’m done with the BernieBros. They deserve to be ignored.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:30am

re: #296 A wild WITHAK appeared!

A point I’m trying to make with various people is that it’s possible to a) be disappointed in the content of the emails, and concerned about what that content showed about the actions of the DNC to favor Hillary (as obvious as it may have been to those of us paying attention); and b) really fucking concerned about the fact that a foreign power is trying to influence our elections.

One of these things is much worse than the other.

A frightening number of people seem to view the election and its lead-up as an amusing reality TV show whose outcome is on par with “Dancing With the Stars.”

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Archangelus  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:31am

The hits keep on comin’ (and i hope they never stop):

RawStory: Bush Appointee Abandons GOP

A former U.S. attorney who was appointed by President George W. Bush has left the Republican Party, calling it a “party of hate” on his way out.

In a Facebook post, now taken down, ex-South Florida U.S. Attorney Marcos Daniel Jimenez wrote a terse message expressing his disappointment with the party following the selection of Donald Trump as their 2016 presidential nominee, reports Politico.

Jimenez who served as a U.S. Attorney until 2005, and whose brother, Frank Jimenez, was appointed by Bush as General Counsel of the U.S. Department of the Navy overseeing NCIS in 2006, began by saying, “This is not easy to write.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:45am

LOLWUT

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:51am

re: #299 Lidane

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They must be real fun at parties.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:53:03am

re: #299 Lidane

Was the peach tree ripened?

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:53:29am

re: #299 Lidane

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What in the everliving fuck?

“Before we turned things into commodities, there were just leaves, and feathers and wood. And then some enterprising person came and chopped down a tree and turned it into a chair and decided it cost $8.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:55:21am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

I hope Baby Ben doesn’t get drug tested at work.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:55:28am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

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Didn’t bother Ben when Bibi all but spoke at the RNC on behalf of Romney in 2012. And if Ben thinks that didn’t inspire Obama to want Bibi to be Bibi gone, he’s higher than I think.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:55:30am

re: #309 A wild WITHAK appeared!

What in the everliving fuck?

The problem that the Left has is that the more purity they insist on, the less sense they make, until they disappear up their own asses in a puff of self-parody.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:55:49am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:56:13am

re: #310 Sir John Barron

I hope Baby Ben doesn’t get drug tested at work.

What work? He’s an unemployed angry wingnut ever since he left the dumpster pit at Breitbart in hopes of finding a dumpster pit that isn’t so blatant about being bigots.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:57:50am

re: #312 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem that the Left has is that the more purity they insist on, the less sense they make, until they disappear up their own asses in a puff of self-parody.

Indeed, things like shouting TPP during a speech about black lives matter does not help and then shouting black lives matter while a black man points out that there are some good police officers out there. I also was never fond of the Code Pink strategy of showing up with red paint on their hands while Bush admin officials were testifying on the Hill. It makes us look like cartoon characters and what people like Baby Ben imagine the typical left of center person to be rather than what we actually are.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:58:18am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

What work? He’s an unemployed angry wingnut ever since he left the dumpster pit at Breitbart in hopes of finding a dumpster pit that isn’t so blatant about being bigots.

He’s hoping to find a place that is bigoted against everyone but Jews.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:58:33am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

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Democrats are all upset about the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor, but they didn’t seem so upset about Pershing’s troops lobbing artillery shells at the Germans!

But on a more serious note - Shapiro’s so locked into hating Democrats that he’s excusing Putin working on behalf of Trump to get him elected.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:59:31am

re: #309 A wild WITHAK appeared!

What in the everliving fuck?

That one’s really funny. No clue how labor works, I see.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:59:32am

re: #316 Belafon

He’s hoping to find a place that is bigoted against everyone but Jews.

Yeah good luck finding that in the American alt-right.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:00:23am

Another attack in Europe, another goddamn week’s worth of folks freaking out and demanding that all refugees, or all Muslims just for good measure, get thrown out/banned/executed, etc. to save the West from the looming super-evil of terrorism.

Dumb fuckers playing right into the whole point of terrorism: small scale violence to create large-scale outsized reactions to justify some ideology or another.Treating it like an existential crisis that demands the elimination of some ‘other’ to save the population from some gigantic monolothic mega-threat is the exact kind of reflex it’s meant to elicit. Either you get your targets to cower and surrender, or you get them to overextend and ‘prove you right’.

Stop treating terrorism as an existential crisis. Treat it like a crime and stop militarizing your goddamn way of life . YOu know how they say ‘living well is the best revenge’? Same deal, the best way to defang terrorism is to not budge and give them what they want. Don’t treat them like holy soldiers or martyrs, treat them like what they are: stupid criminals.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:00:24am

re: #318 Belafon

That one’s really funny. No clue how labor works, I see.

Doesn’t surprise me. Remember last night, there were Bernie delegates that were using Democrat as a slur at people they didn’t like.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:01:09am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t surprise me. Remember last night, there were Bernie delegates that were using Democrat as a slur at people they didn’t like.

The RNC sure was rough last night.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:01:49am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t surprise me. Remember last night, there were Bernie delegates that were using Democrat as a slur at people they didn’t like.

Lends more credence to the idea that the remaining Busters are truly the fringe of the fringe, and were never going to vote Clinton anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:03:44am

re: #323 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Lends more credence to the idea that the remaining Busters are truly the fringe of the fringe, and were never going to vote Clinton anyway.

Yeah. The funniest was when they realized that Senator Merkel was speaking and then they cheered him because they remembered he was the only Senator to support Bernie. They’re a kooky bunch that are showing exactly why they can’t get past Baltic Avenue.

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Archangelus  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:05:22am

For the non-Hebrew-speakers, the hashtags translate to “delete your account” and “hypocrite.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:05:45am

re: #322 Sir John Barron

The RNC sure was rough last night.

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I hate playing the endorsement game but I really want to ask these types that if Clinton is such a grave threat to human rights everywhere, why are people like Malala Yousafzai supporting her? Maybe there’s some gotcha to that but the point is I think Malala knows a thing or two more about oppression than some holier than thou leftist puritan.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:06:46am

re: #325 Archangelus

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:06:54am

re: #299 Lidane

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They are remnants of the Paulians.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:07:44am

re: #328 Stanley Sea

They remnants of the Paulians.

There certainly is intersection there.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:08:12am

A priest was killed, ostensibly by a Muslim who ISIS claims as one of their own.

Michelle Malkin enjoys the parallels between a 2006 attack where a priest was killed and the 2016 attack.

10 years separate the two. If there was a successful clash of civilizations and targeted killings of Christian (aka the Christian persecution) that the Islamophobes claim, you’d think they wouldn’t have to go back 10 years to find another similar example.

What’s lost on the Islamophobes is that the overwhelming majority of victims of Islamic terror are fellow Muslims. Whether it’s Sunni-Shi’a or Sunni terrorists killing those Sunni that aren’t sufficiently Islamic enough, or just insane extremists who are willing to burn down the world (like IS), the victims (and hence the refugees) trying to flee the violence are overwhelmingly Muslim.

They aren’t any different than Jews seeking to flee Germany before WWII or other groups seeking to flee civil war or insurrections or violence. They just want to find a better life for themselves.

The GOP and right wing nationalists (here and overseas) see infiltrators everywhere, even though the overwhelming majority aren’t. Those attacks in France, Germany, and Belgium are to try and staunch the flow of refugees and keep them bottled up in refugee camps or stay in Iraq, Syria, and other hostile territory. IS and other terror groups need these people to get so angry - not at IS and the terror groups, but at those who are blocking them from finding safety, that they’d take out their frustrations by carrying out attacks against those countries.

So, by blocking refugees, the GOP and right wingers are playing into the hands of IS and other terror groups, and depriving those refugees of a chance for a better life.

The parallels to the pre-WWII Jewish experience cannot be ignored.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:09:53am

Need more coffee.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:14:50am

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

One problem that Third Parties have is that they don’t have a nominating process. Well, they DO, but it’s lacking the excitement and pageantry of the majors, largely because nobody’s ever heard of the folks running. So, while he Dems and Reps have been in the news for a year now, news cycle after news cycle, third parties sit in obscurity, eventually nominating somebody that gets reporters running to Wikipedia to figure out just who the fuck this is.

People still have the illusion that the primaries are some sort of democratic and representative election. They are just part of the party’s selection process, they can change the rules any time (but at their own peril).

But they are not so much elections as they are a consumer survey: to find out who plays best with the public and to build up interest and momentum early.

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BigPapa  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:18:15am

I sometimes wonder about being hyper connected and if/how it affects me. But if I disconnect who will tell all the jokes and forward great photoshops?

Why News Junkies Are So Glum About Politics, Economics, and Everything Else

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:18:21am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People still have the illusion that the primaries are some sort of democratic and representative election. They are just part of the party’s selection process, they can change the rules any time (but at their own peril).

But they are not so much elections as they are a consumer survey: to find out who plays best with the public and to build up interest and momentum early.

Hence the marketing speak in the released emails.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:18:52am

I am starting to see some stupid meme on FB about there allegedly being NO American flags on or near the DNC stage.

I am assuming this is a lie?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:19:13am

It amazes me that people hate the idea of closed primaries but pine that we had the multiple party system that they do in Europe. The voters of Labour and the Conservatives didn’t choose Cornyn and Cameron, their elected officials dod so that’s pretty much the SD system that many hate times a 1000. Having other Democrats be able to select the nominee of that party simply makes sense.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:20:14am

re: #333 SoundGuy 2016

The media is making them feel that way. As always, it’s not the reality, it’s the perception.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:20:20am

re: #335 Eclectic Cyborg

I am starting to see some stupid meme on FB about there allegedly being NO American flags on or near the DNC stage.

I am assuming this is a lie?

Hoft posted it. I’m ont sure if it is or isn’t but honestly it’s a quite silly thing to be concerned about. Other countries don’t constantly fly their flag everywhere. And frankly given that the RNC has a nominee that actually shits on what our nation is, I don’t really care about optics.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:20:25am

Not sure this has been discussed:

Case dismissed against activists in Planned Parenthood undercover video lawsuit

The case was dropped Tuesday against activists in the center of a Planned Parenthood undercover video lawsuit.

[…]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:21:49am

re: #304 calochortus

A frightening number of people seem to view the election and its lead-up as an amusing reality TV show whose outcome is on par with “Dancing With the Stars.”

when one of the major players is a reality TV star and the other part of an decades-long political soap opera, it is hard to view it otherwise

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:22:03am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:23:16am

re: #335 Eclectic Cyborg

I am starting to see some stupid meme on FB about there allegedly being NO American flags on or near the DNC stage.

I am assuming this is a lie?

I don’t know but lame people are so lame.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:23:27am

This stupid idea that the more flags you fly, the more patriotic you are…such immature garbage.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:23:53am

re: #338 HappyWarrior

Hoft posted it. I’m ont sure if it is or isn’t but honestly it’s a quite silly thing to be concerned about. Other countries don’t constantly fly their flag everywhere. And frankly given that the RNC has a nominee that actually shits on what our nation is, I don’t really care about optics.

Are Confederate Flag wavers giving us Patriotism lectures again?

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:24:00am
District Judge Brock Thomas dismissed the tampering with government records charge against 27-year-old David Daleiden and 63-year-old Sandra Merritt upon the request of the Harris County prosecutor’s office.

So, why did the prosecutors come to this request?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:24:15am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

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So was the Capitol.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:24:20am

re: #340 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

when one of the major players is a reality TV star and the other part of an decades-long political soap opera, it is hard to view it otherwise

Possibly, but the stakes are just a tiny bit higher.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:24:30am

re: #344 Sir John Barron

Are Confederate Flag wavers giving us Patriotism lectures again?

I’m afraid so.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:25:19am

Too good to check:

Just read through his feed about Sean Hannity going into WaWa and cutting the line and getting all up in the face of patrons waiting their turn to get their food orders in.

Typical. I’d let Hannity have it too. You don’t cut the line, and you have to order first (which is through a computer kiosk that generates the orders for each individually prepped sandwich). First come, first served. None of the line cutting BS.

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Franklin  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:25:25am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

Didn’t bother Ben when Bibi all but spoke at the RNC on behalf of Romney in 2012. And if Ben thinks that didn’t inspire Obama to want Bibi to be Bibi gone, he’s higher than I think.

Wether the bolded was intentional or not, it is fantastic.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:26:33am

re: #349 lawhawk

Too good to check:

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Just read through his feed about Sean Hannity going into WaWa and cutting the line and getting all up in the face of patrons waiting their turn to get their food orders in.

Typical. I’d let Hannity have it too. You don’t cut the line, and you have to order first (which is through a computer kiosk that generates the orders for each individually prepped sandwich). First come, first served. None of the line cutting BS.

So Hannity doesn’t just play an obnoxious smug douche on TV.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:27:10am

re: #350 Franklin

Wether the bolded was intentional or not, it is fantastic.

I have a lot of clever accidental bits of wisdom but this one was by design.

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:27:11am

re: #245 Tigger2

And the con goes on.

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Lots of luck with that, pal. You’ve just been Trumped.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:27:46am

re: #343 Eclectic Cyborg

This stupid idea that the more flags you fly, the more patriotic you are…such immature garbage.

Wingnuts have a flag fetish, they are always obsessed with saluting, flag pins, flags flying at full staff, half staff, flag touching the ground, burning the flag (OMG!!!!!!ELEVENTY), kissing the flag (like Reagan), humping the flag (like Trump) FLAGS FLAGS FLAGS SHOW HOW MUCH U LOVE AMERICA!!!!11!!!!

They still use this lame photo from 2007 as PROOFS OBAMA DOES NOT LOVE AMERICA!!!!!!!!
LOL at the same time according to their “logic” it proves HILLARY DOES LOVE AMERICA

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:28:03am

re: #349 lawhawk

Too good to check:

Just read through his feed about Sean Hannity going into WaWa and cutting the line and getting all up in the face of patrons waiting their turn to get their food orders in.

Typical. I’d let Hannity have it too. You don’t cut the line, and you have to order first (which is through a computer kiosk that generates the orders for each individually prepped sandwich). First come, first served. None of the line cutting BS.

This will be turned into how Hannity was threatened with death by violent inner city libtards.

/

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:29:26am

re: #316 Belafon

He’s hoping to find a place that is bigoted against everyone but Jews.

Arutz Sheva

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:30:16am

Really, Andrea? Good on Al.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:30:34am

re: #354 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts have a flag fetish, they are always obsessed with saluting, flag pins, flags flying at full staff, half staff, flag touching the ground, burning the flag (OMG!!!!!!ELEVENTY), kissing the flag (like Reagan), humping the flag (like Trump) FLAGS FLAGS FLAGS SHOW HOW MUCH U LOVE AMERICA!!!!11!!!!

They still use this lame photo from 2007 as PROOFS OBAMA DOES NOT LOVE AMERICA!!!!!!!!
LOL at the same time according to their “logic” it proves HILLARY DOES LOVE AMERICA

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I forget what the actual story was there but there was a very rational explanation.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:31:02am

re: #357 Jenner7

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Really, Andrea? Good on Al.

Damn Franken is great.

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calochortus  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:31:35am

re: #333 SoundGuy 2016

I sometimes wonder about being hyper connected and if/how it affects me. But if I disconnect who will tell all the jokes and forward great photoshops?

Why News Junkies Are So Glum About Politics, Economics, and Everything Else

I, for one, am going to try to cleanse my brain by staying away from everything news/politics related for a few hours. (If I don’t get the shakes, or something-maybe just a peek at lunchtime? Maybe?) Then I can tune in this evening mentally rested and refreshed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:32:18am

re: #358 HappyWarrior

I forget what the actual story was there but there was a very rational explanation.

He had just peed himself and was hiding it?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:32:36am

Honestly, I don’t want goddamn lectures on patriotism from people who defend the CSA. The CSA started a war that killed more Americans than any other.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:32:55am

White Privilege in a nutshell

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:32:57am

re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He had just peed himself and was hiding it?

Ha!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:33:32am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

White Privilege in a nutshell

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Yeah well you’re an asshole. Not you obviously VB but this prick.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:33:46am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

Michelle Obama is right - the White House was indeed built by slaves starting in 1792.

People didn’t know this?

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dharmamark  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:34:05am

re: #355 Sir John Barron

This will be turned into how Hannity was threatened with death by violent inner city libtards.

/

Oh god, I hope it’s true and someone’s got video…

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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:34:16am

My dog Max was just sitting on my lap snapping at a mosquito buzzing around his head, but failing horribly. It landed on my upper arm and with one quick flap stroke of my limp wristed mighty hand, I smooshed it flat.

Max the Putx - 0
B_sharp - 1

Oh, wait.
This was supposed to be a serious thread?
My bad.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:34:50am

re: #366 Timothy Watson

People didn’t know this?

I know it’s shocking that a key building project in a time when slavery was legal in a place where slavery was legal was built by slaves. No word on how well the slaves got paid and if they were allowed to unionize though. //

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:35:41am

re: #358 HappyWarrior

I forget what the actual story was there but there was a very rational explanation.

They were at a campaign event in Iowa and the national anthem was being played. It was a barbecue, not a military funeral. Notice how their backs are to the big flag onstage and looking in the distance (at another flag?)

There is NO LAW OR CUSTOM that requires standing at attention saluting or hand on heart during the national anthem, when was the last time you saw that at a sports event?

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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:35:56am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

White Privilege in a nutshell

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Ah, poor baby.

Needs a little coddling, and his/her binky.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:36:15am

I really, really, really want that Hannity story to be true.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:36:34am

re: #370 The Vicious Babushka

They were at a campaign event in Iowa and the national anthem was being played. It was a barbecue, not a military funeral. Notice how their backs are to the big flag onstage and looking in the distance (at another flag?)

There is NO LAW OR CUSTOM that requires standing at attention saluting or hand on heart during the national anthem, when was the last time you saw that at a sports event?

That’s right, thank you.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:37:05am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

White Privilege in a nutshell

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Would suspect it’s a fake, except for the mad whiteboard skilz.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:37:08am

re: #372 Jenner7

I really, really, really want that Hannity story to be true.

Given that Ailes sexually harassment was true. I expect this not only to be true but to be the tip of the iceberg with how Hannity treats the little people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:38:13am

re: #370 The Vicious Babushka

They were at a campaign event in Iowa and the national anthem was being played. It was a barbecue, not a military funeral. Notice how their backs are to the big flag onstage and looking in the distance (at another flag?)

There is NO LAW OR CUSTOM that requires standing at attention saluting or hand on heart during the national anthem, when was the last time you saw that at a sports event?

Snopes has it.

Also telling that wingnuts can’t find any other photos of Obama DISRESPECTING TEH FLAG!!!!11!!! except for this one and another one where “Hail To The Chief” was being played:

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:38:55am

Bummer, it’s not real..

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:39:44am

re: #376 The Vicious Babushka

Snopes has it.

Also telling that wingnuts can’t find any other photos of Obama DISRESPECTING TEH FLAG!!!!11!!! except for this one and another one where “Hail To The Chief” was being played:

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That was one I was thinking of too. It’s actually considered a faux pas for the President to salute during Hail to the Chief. Personally, I think all that protocol is silly but I know if Obama in fact was saluting there, they’d have an alternative meme calling Obama stupid and narcissistic for saluting himself during Hail to the Chief.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:40:04am

re: #377 Jenner7

Bummer, it’s not real..

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Awww damn.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:41:32am

My favorite and no need to repeat the one is where they post the one of Reagan kissing the flag as proof of how much Reagan loved the flag but it actually looks to this observer like Reagan was using it as a hankerchief for a bad cold.

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Interesting Times  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:41:52am

re: #292 Lidane

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Okay, humor me for a bit - is there *anything* Putin stooge Assange could’ve gotten a hold of that would realistically live up to his she’ll be arrested!!1!! bluster?

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:42:27am

re: #366 Timothy Watson

People didn’t know this?

They say “no no no, it was built by (architect’s name).” As if he just had to think it and wave a hand.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:42:37am

re: #381 Interesting Times

Okay, humor me for a bit - is there *anything* Putin stooge Assange could’ve gotten a hold of that would realistically live up to his she’ll be arrested!!1!! bluster?

Maybe an email from Clinton complaining about restaurant service.

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Franklin  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:42:52am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

I know it’s shocking that a key building project in a time when slavery was legal in a place where slavery was legal was built by slaves. No word on how well the slaves got paid and if they were allowed to unionize though. //

I’m sure they were treated fairly. Until that outside agitator Harriet Tubman came along and ruined everything. Those slaves had it good. /////////

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:43:02am

Poll: No Post-Convention Bounce for Donald Trump

nbcnews.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:43:09am

re: #382 sagehen

They say “no no no, it was built by (architect’s name).” As if he just had to think it and wave a hand.

Actually had a date at a pub named after the man who was the architect of the White House, James Hoban.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:43:23am

re: #381 Interesting Times

Okay, humor me for a bit - is there *anything* Putin stooge Assange could’ve gotten a hold of that would realistically live up to his she’ll be arrested!!1!! bluster?

She is guilty-ish…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:43:33am

re: #384 Franklin

I’m sure they were treated fairly. Until that outside agitator Harriet Tubman came along and ruined everything. Those slaves had it good. /////////

Oh, I see you’ve read the NRO’s History of the White House too!

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Mattand  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:43:59am

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

I think I’m gonna lay off the BoB crowd. They’ve been told to knock it off by their leader, and they’ve been ridiculed by the hot, funny girl. At this point, they’re the voice crying in the wilderness.

I’m not. I got into it with a guy I’ve known for nearly 25 years who at this point is staying home in November because “Hillary equals Trump”.

These fucking people. Their goddamn messiah is telling them that beating Trump is what they need to focus on now, and they’re turning on him in droves.

Fucking idiots. If Trump wins, I’m making a long, long list and reminding these people everyday they’re responsible.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:45:26am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

My favorite and no need to repeat the one is where they post the one of Reagan kissing the flag as proof of how much Reagan loved the flag but it actually looks to this observer like Reagan was using it as a hankerchief for a bad cold.

And then there is this:

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:46:00am
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:46:20am

re: #227 Sir John Barron

SELL OUT! WE WANT BERNIE!

Can somebody welfare check HA Goodman when this happens?

Do we have to?

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:46:58am

re: #349 lawhawk

Too good to check:

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Just read through his feed about Sean Hannity going into WaWa and cutting the line and getting all up in the face of patrons waiting their turn to get their food orders in.

Typical. I’d let Hannity have it too. You don’t cut the line, and you have to order first (which is through a computer kiosk that generates the orders for each individually prepped sandwich). First come, first served. None of the line cutting BS.

So he got a taste of the “brotherly love” Philly is well known for. This story warms my heart if it’s true.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:47:39am

re: #393 No Depression

As others pointed out, it’s satire (and why I also indicated too good to check).

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:47:46am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:48:11am

I have coffeed my way across America and Canada, and Wawa has the BEST COFFEE ANYWHERE.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:50:18am

re: #394 lawhawk

And yet, here’s Sean confused by the ordering kiosk:

Thing is, there’s a reason that computers wont replace people in the service industry. People need the human interactions, and people can pick up on tells that people don’t know what to do, and can guide.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:52:05am

re: #376 The Vicious Babushka

Also telling that wingnuts can’t find any other photos of Obama DISRESPECTING TEH FLAG!!!!11!!! except for this one and another one where “Hail To The Chief” was being played:

If Obama saluted during “Hail to the Chief”, wouldn’t he be saluting himself?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:53:10am

re: #357 Jenner7

Andrea Mitchell tells Al Franken that “facts don’t matter this election” so Al challenged all @msnbc correspondents to “make them matter” 👍
— (((Uncle John)))

“Who, us? How do we do that?”

/

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:53:12am
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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:53:31am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:53:47am

re: #397 lawhawk

And yet, here’s Sean confused by the ordering kiosk:

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Thing is, there’s a reason that computers wont replace people in the service industry. People need the human interactions, and people can pick up on tells that people don’t know what to do, and can guide.

And this is the guy who made Obama out to be an elitist for getting Dijon mustard on burger.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:53:52am

re: #398 gocart mozart

If Obama saluted during “Hail to the Chief”, wouldn’t he be saluting himself?

See, he saluted! He knows he’s not actually president. He just gave it away!

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Mattand  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:54:19am

Never mind…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:54:28am

re: #401 Lidane

Concern troll is very concerned.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:54:50am

re: #400 lawhawk

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Uh Dinesh, you’re supporting the guy who has expressed admiration for a literal former KGB guy. Really just shut the fuck up and be lucky you’re not in jail instead of being a sad piece of shit because no one likes your movies.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:56:02am

re: #401 Lidane

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She had every right to point out about the WH being built by slaves and then then being part of the first African-American first family. If Crystal wants race baiting, she needs to listen to Republicans, they race bait, they’re the ones who accuse racial minorities of wanting “free stuff.” Fucking FNC Hack.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:56:13am

re: #401 Lidane

Crystal will now have to see a doctor for shoulder separation after that reach.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:56:19am

re: #399 Sir John Barron

“Who, us? How do we do that?”

/

How can we journalists be journalists!

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:56:24am

That sound you hear is Jill Stein grinding her teeth:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:56:41am

re: #404 Mattand

Just read the whole thing. Wow. Went full-on, no holds back racist as well.

One thing that’s not clicking with me is why Hannity would go into a Wawa for food. Particularly if it’s the one at 11th and Arch, which is a little beat up. The amount of money he’s making, he could just grab something at the hotel.

I’m wondering if he went in there hoping to stir up trouble with black people. What an asshole.

The WaWa thing is apparently satire.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:57:14am

re: #410 Lidane

That sound you hear is Jill Stein grinding her teeth:

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Jill’s going to start being very nasty to Bernie now like a spurned lover. Be careful, Bernie, she may kill your bird!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:58:17am

re: #411 HappyWarrior

The WaWa thing is apparently satire.

It’s the best kind of satire: funny, and believable enough to get even some of the bright folks at LGF.

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:59:59am

re: #401 Lidane

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Did she change her name for the job? Nothin’ better than Crystal White Wright for all your whitesplainin’ needs!

Oops, never mind.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:01:50am

re: #245 Tigger2

And the con goes on.

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How does Cillizza have a job?

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Mattand  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:03:11am

re: #411 HappyWarrior

The WaWa thing is apparently satire.

LOL, it pays to read past the initial comment, apparently. Noted and removed.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:03:40am

re: #414 wrenchwench

Did she change her name for the job? Nothin’ better than Crystal White for all your whitesplainin’ needs!

No joke, I entered her name into wikipedia and the first result I got back was a white powder known as Lead(II) Nitrate. Honestly, as a white man, I have no problem with Michelle pointing out the WH’s history and it is pretty amazing that we’ve gone from slaves having to build the WH to their descendants like Michelle being part of the First Family. It really is pathetic that FNC uses historical perspective comments like this to accuse the FLOTUS of being racist when she’s actually making a damn good historical perspective point.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:04:07am

re: #416 Mattand

LOL, it pays to read past the initial comment, apparently. Noted and removed.

It’s okay, I fell for it too because Hannity acting like a dick is believable.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:04:16am

re: #339 freetoken

Not sure this has been discussed:

Case dismissed against activists in Planned Parenthood undercover video lawsuit

Who dismissed it? Some RW Texas judge?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:05:04am

re: #419 Stanley Sea

Who dismissed it? Some RW Texas judge?

If I saw right, looks like the Harris County DA’s office.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:06:47am

Yeah, okay.

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:06:57am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

No joke, I entered her name into wikipedia and the first result I got back was a white powder known as Lead(II) Nitrate. Honestly, as a white man, I have no problem with Michelle pointing out the WH’s history and it is pretty amazing that we’ve gone from slaves having to build the WH to their descendants like Michelle being part of the First Family. It really is pathetic that FNC uses historical perspective comments like this to accuse the FLOTUS of being racist when she’s actually making a damn good historical perspective point.

See my correction above. However, I can’t believe the reactions to Michlle Obama’s factual statements.

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:07:43am

re: #421 Jenner7

Yeah, okay.

As if that means anything.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:07:51am

Completely off topic… other than the following being evidence of the brave new world in which we live and which helps drive the angst our 18th-century-lovin’ society is feeling:

‘Clone Sisters’ Of Dolly The Sheep Are Alive And Kicking

[…]

But, the good health of the 13 clones in the Nottingham herd suggest better prospects for the procedure. Sinclair and his colleagues evaluated the animals’ blood pressure, metabolism, heart function, muscles and joints, looking for signs of premature aging. They even fattened them up (since obesity is a risk factor for metabolic problems including diabetes) and gave them the standard tests to gauge how their bodies would handle glucose and insulin.

The results? Normal, normal, normal.

[…]

See: Healthy ageing of cloned sheep

The health of cloned animals generated by somatic-cell nuclear transfer (SCNT) has been of concern since its inception; however, there are no detailed assessments of late-onset, non-communicable diseases. Here we report that SCNT has no obvious detrimental long-term health effects in a cohort of 13 cloned sheep. We perform musculoskeletal assessments, metabolic tests and blood pressure measurements in 13 aged (7-9 years old) cloned sheep, including four derived from the cell line that gave rise to Dolly. We also perform radiological examinations of all main joints, including the knees, the joint most affected by osteoarthritis in Dolly, and compare all health parameters to groups of 5-and 6-year-old sheep, and published reference ranges. Despite their advanced age, these clones are euglycaemic, insulin sensitive and normotensive. Importantly, we observe no clinical signs of degenerative joint disease apart from mild, or in one case moderate, osteoarthritis in some animals. Our study is the first to assess the long-term health outcomes of SCNT in large animals.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:08:30am

re: #422 wrenchwench

See my correction above. However, I can’t believe the reactions to Michlle Obama’s factual statements.

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I can believe the reactions. She spoke and her very speaking drives some of tehse people bonkers. See your correction though.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:09:18am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

I would like the DA to explain their decision.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:09:30am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

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Timothy Watson  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:10:10am

re: #397 lawhawk

And yet, here’s Sean confused by the ordering kiosk:

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Thing is, there’s a reason that computers wont replace people in the service industry. People need the human interactions, and people can pick up on tells that people don’t know what to do, and can guide.

Where’s the video of H.W. Bush being amazed at the grocery line scanners?

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:11:38am

re: #349 lawhawk

Too good to check:

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Just read through his feed about Sean Hannity going into WaWa and cutting the line and getting all up in the face of patrons waiting their turn to get their food orders in.

Typical. I’d let Hannity have it too. You don’t cut the line, and you have to order first (which is through a computer kiosk that generates the orders for each individually prepped sandwich). First come, first served. None of the line cutting BS.

Dude, the last thing yo want to do in Philly is try to cut a line.

Hannity really is every bit as stupid as legend has it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:11:38am

re: #339 freetoken

Not sure this has been discussed:

Case dismissed against activists in Planned Parenthood undercover video lawsuit

well, this will be offered as proof that those videos were accurate and truthful

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:12:22am

re: #427 gocart mozart

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Once again, she brought it up because she was talking about how African-Americans and hell for all we know some of them could have been her own ancestors were slaves that built the WH to her presently being part of the first family. I get it white wingnuts, discussing slavery makes you upset because it gets in the way of your image of our country. Our country is a great place but we can’t ignore history and slavery was a big part of our history and it’s literally why Michelle Obama and millions of Americans like her are here so yeah we’re going to talk about it. All my ancestors came to this country willingly. Michelle’s not so so for that to be the case and for her later to be in the WH is pretty damn special.

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:12:26am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:12:48am

re: #428 Timothy Watson

Where’s the video of H.W. Bush being amazed at the grocery line scanners?

I heard that was overblown. Not a good visual for him though.

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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:12:56am

re: #421 Jenner7

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Yeah, okay.

Not for want of trying.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:13:02am

re: #421 Jenner7

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Yeah, okay.

Don’t have time to look right now, but curious as to what the Trump spawn were doing in Moscow when they met with the guy in that lawsuit where they’re currently witnesss but could be defendants later on (the one who Trump supposedly didn’t know but who worked for the Trump organization at the NY office and he was photographed with at multiple locations.)

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:13:17am

re: #433 HappyWarrior

I heard that was overblown. Not a good visual for him though.

Sort of like looking at his watch.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:13:54am

Of course, all these stupid white people are triggered at the mention of slavery, and don’t get the point.

“Look at how far we’ve come, that a black man and his family live in the White House, which was built by slaves” is apparently too nuanced for some people.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:14:01am

re: #432 wrenchwench

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Indeed for all the conservatives complaints about political correctness in modern society, they sure as hell do get pissed when you talk about historical unpleasant truths. Hell I’m not very old and my own Nana was born into an America where women couldn’t vote.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:14:24am

re: #427 gocart mozart

Hope we have a safe space large enough for all the butthurt.

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jonhendry  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:14:26am

re: #349 lawhawk

You don’t fuck with peoples’ WaWa. They’re serious about that shit.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:14:33am

re: #430 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

well, this will be offered as proof that those videos were accurate and truthful

Already, at the anti-abortion sites.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:15:19am

re: #436 freetoken

Sort of like looking at his watch.

Yep. H.W Bush never was able to have that common man touch is son had. It’s probably why he wasn’t as successful at the polls as George W. And I think Jeb has more or less the same thing in my observations.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:15:57am

re: #279 Lidane

Jeez, Bernie. You built that.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:16:02am
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Skip Intro  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:16:02am

re: #435 BeachDem

Don’t have time to look right now, but curious as to what the Trump spawn were doing in Moscow when they met with the guy in that lawsuit where they’re currently witnesss but could be defendants later on (the one who Trump supposedly didn’t know but who worked for the Trump organization at the NY office and he was photographed with at multiple locations.)

Being escorted around by a Mafia guy who was friends with their daddy.

washingtonpost.com

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:16:16am

re: #438 HappyWarrior

Indeed for all the conservatives complaints about political correctness in modern society, they sure as hell do get pissed when you talk about historical unpleasant truths. Hell I’m not very old and my own Nana was born into an America where women couldn’t vote.

Huh. You just made me do the math, and the same thing is true for my grandmother.

I wish she were still around to chat with her great-grandkids.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:16:56am

re: #419 Stanley Sea

That’s such a poorly worded article, I’m not sure what the heck happened from that article. What case was dropped? The state investigation or the federal case by Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, Planned Parenthood Center for Choice and Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains against Daleidin?

A FoxNews article reports that the last of the charges were dropped in a Texas claim against Daleidin.

District Judge Brock Thomas dismissed the charge of tampering with government records against 27-year-old David Daleiden and 63-year-old Sandra Merritt upon the request of the Harris County prosecutor’s office.

“The dismissal of the bogus, politically motivated charges against [Center for Medical Progress] project lead David Daleiden and investigator Sandra Merritt is a resounding vindication of the First Amendment rights of all citizen journalists, and also a clear warning to any of Planned Parenthood’s political cronies who would attack whistleblowers to protect Planned Parenthood from scrutiny,” Daleiden said in a statement.

The pair’s attorneys had pushed to have the charge dismissed, saying Daleiden and Merritt never should have been indicted. If they had been convicted of the felony charge, each could have been sentenced to up to 20 years in prison.

These fuckers think the videos still show illegality on the part of someone other than Daleidin.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:17:00am

re: #437 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Of course, all these stupid white people are triggered at the mention of slavery, and don’t get the point.

“Look at how far we’ve come, that a black man and his family live in the White House, which was built by slaves” is apparently too nuanced for some people.

Exactly. I mean if that bothers you, I don’t even know what to say. I marvel at that my Nana as I said was born into a country that didn’t allow women to vote and her daughters, granddaughters, and great granddaughters will now have a chance to have one as President. That’s history. If you think that is race baiting but the Republican Party members insisting that racial minorities just want free stuff and that’s why they favor the Democrats than you’re an ass.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:17:08am

re: #421 Jenner7

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Yeah, okay.

He just has their dollars in his bank account.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:18:07am

re: #444 jaunte

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Because we’re not scared little chickenshits like the Republicans who need ISIS to be afraid of. Were there any mentions at all of doing something about gun violence at the RNC, Paulie?

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:18:16am

Trump voters are so classy

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A Mom Anon  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:18:30am

re: #397 lawhawk

This is someone who has his food brought to him. Of course he has no idea how to use a freaking kiosk. I doubt he even gasses up his own car or directly orders anything for himself. That’s what “his people” are for.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:18:34am

re: #444 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:19:33am

re: #446 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Huh. You just made me do the math, and the same thing is true for my grandmother.

I wish she were still around to chat with her great-grandkids.

I know what you mean. I wish mine could have met my niece and some of the other great grands. She recently had what would have been her first great great grand.

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:20:11am

re: #444 jaunte

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For us to mention ISIS all the time is doing just what ISIS wants.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:20:20am

re: #451 gocart mozart

Trump voters are so classy

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Looks like a pretty normal couple to me wingnut shitbird. Meanwhile, your candidate who oonstantly has to marry younger whenever the present wife’s expiration date expires.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:20:39am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

Both my grandmothers were born well before women could vote. I remember my mother telling me her grandmother, who apparently was a bit of a feminist for her day, voted as soon as she could.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:20:49am

re: #452 A Mom Anon

This is someone who has his food brought to him. Of course he has no idea how to use a freaking kiosk. I doubt he even gasses up his own car or directly orders anything for himself. That’s what “his people” are for.

Psst it was satire. :)

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:20:49am

re: #438 HappyWarrior

Indeed for all the conservatives complaints about political correctness in modern society, they sure as hell do get pissed when you talk about historical unpleasant truths. Hell I’m not very old and my own Nana was born into an America where women couldn’t vote.

Talking about race is seen by racists as ‘dividing the races’. No, it’s recognition of the dividing that has been done. They hate ‘political correctness’ because when you get down and really analyze the term, it’s calling them out for living by ‘political lies’ all their lives.

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blueraven  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:20:57am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:23:32am

re: #457 freetoken

Both my grandmothers were born well before women could vote. I remember my mother telling me her grandmother, who apparently was a bit of a feminist for her day, voted as soon as she could.

Awesome. I don’t know much about the older generation of women in my family but I do know that some of them were working even before women started going into the factories during WWI.

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Archangelus  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:23:47am

After so many years in which being oriented to the left side of the political spectrum got you branded a commie traitor, we now have people on the side that took sooooo much pride in “fighting” the “Dirty Ruskies” taking hard currency from former KGB strongmen and Kremlin sympathizers. And calling them out on it is supposedly a bad thing? Screw that..

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KingKenrod  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:24:48am

re: #426 freetoken

I would like the DA to explain their decision.

The statement from the DA says:

The grand jury took the investigation where the facts led it, however Texas law limits what can be investigated after a grand jury extension order is issued. In light of this and after careful research and review, this office dismissed the indictments.

So this may mean that if a jury returns an indictment that the DA did not originally ask for, there are limits to what the DA can investigate or crimes that the indictment can cover.

It could also mean the DA has received enough RWNJ heat for botching the original indictment and she just wants this to go away.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:25:03am

re: #459 wrenchwench

Talking about race is seen by racists as ‘dividing the races’. No, it’s recognition of the dividing that has been done. They hate ‘political correctness’ because when you get down and really analyze the term, it’s calling them out for living by ‘political lies’ all their lives.

It’s like when I see people complain about “black power”, I have to remind them loudly that that wouldn’t exist really if people hadn’t spent generations telling them their skin was black because they were inferior. It’s why I don’t really have a problem with racial and sexual minorities having pride. Pride is a natural reaction after centuries of second class citizenship.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:25:09am

re: #368 b_sharp

My dog Max was just sitting on my lap snapping at a mosquito buzzing around his head, but failing horribly. It landed on my upper arm and with one quick flap stroke of my limp wristed mighty hand, I smooshed it flat.

Max the Putx - 0
B_sharp - 1

Oh, wait.
This was supposed to be a serious thread?
My bad.

You denied your pooch victory? Daaaaad!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:25:52am

re: #462 Archangelus

After so many years in which being oriented to the left side of the political spectrum got you branded a commie traitor, we now have people on the side that took sooooo much pride in “fighting” the “Dirty Ruskies” taking hard currency from former KGB strongmen and Kremlin-sympathizers. And calling them out on it is supposedly a bad thing? Screw that..

I’m old enough to remember when McCain said he saw KGB when he looked into Putin’s eyes. Now it’s “Hey that guy hates gays and Muslims like I do too!”

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CuriousLurker  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:26:12am

re: #330 lawhawk

You nailed it. I was watching France 24 earlier and wondering if maybe Da’esh is attacking a beloved elderly priest in an attempt to provoke an emotional rage in which innocent French Muslims or a mosque will be attacked in the hopes of creating intense alienation between French citizens.

The calls for internment have started also. France has a long, ugly history of internment, which is something I wasn’t aware of until today. Over the years they have interned everyone from Spaniards, Germans, Austrians, Ottomans, Hungarians and Algerians to Communists, anti-Nazis, Roma and Jews.

Apparently it’s not something they’re averse to as this didn’t end with WWII, it continued right up until the 1980’s—yes, really:

The Harkis
Internment camps were also used to intern the harkis (Algerians who fought on the French Army’s side) after the 19 March 1962 Évian Accords which put an official end to the war. Finally, the Camp de Rivesaltes in the Pyrénées-Orientales, and Bourg-Lastic in the Puy de Dôme, used to intern Jews, were also used to intern harkis in the 1960s, and Kurdish refugees from Iraq in the 1980s.

Things could get really ugly if people panic and politicians lose their heads under the pressure, which would (of course) play right into Da’esh’s hands.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:26:43am

re: #385 Skip Intro

Poll: No Post-Convention Bounce for Donald Trump

nbcnews.com

That Less Interested column is troubling.

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jonhendry  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:27:01am

re: #444 jaunte

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ISIS isn’t an existential threat to the US.

Trump/Putin are.

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dangerman  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:27:06am

re: #368 b_sharp

My dog Max was just sitting on my lap snapping at a mosquito buzzing around his head, but failing horribly. It landed on my upper arm and with one quick flap stroke of my limp wristed mighty hand, I smooshed it flat.

Max the Putx - 0
B_sharp - 1

Oh, wait.
This was supposed to be a serious thread?
My bad.

one of our cats was chasing a fly last night. got it in her paw a few times, toying with it then lost it. landed on her nose and she had no idea.

overlords indeed (“oh yeah, i meant to do that”)

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Timothy Watson  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:27:25am

re: #440 jonhendry

You don’t fuck with peoples’ WaWa. They’re serious about that shit.

*Nods while sipping Wawa coffee from his travel mug*

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:27:59am

re: #460 blueraven

Amazing. Trump getting sued for not paying those girls who performed that creepy rally song washingtonpost.com

— Allison F. (@ablington) July 26, 2016

Gee, Trump not paying “the help”? Whodathunkit?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:28:39am

Oh and here’s the thing about ISIS. The Republicans in Congress take ISIS so seriously that they won’t on a declaration that Kaine has proposed to give to the President regarding ISIS. The Republicans would rather talk tough guy shit about ISIS and accuse the President of not doing anything while he is doing the best he can without Congressional authority.

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freetoken  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:29:20am

Tim LaHaye, Evangelical Legend Behind ‘Left Behind’ Series, Dies At 90

LaHaye was a major shaker in the religious right / wingnut movement.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:30:10am

re: #474 freetoken

Tim LaHaye, Evangelical Legend Behind ‘Left Behind’ Series, Dies At 90

LaHaye was a major shaker in the religious right / wingnut movement.

I do offer my thoughts to his loved ones but LaHaye was a bigoted jerk.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:30:41am
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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:32:23am

re: #421 Jenner7

Trump camp: “While Mr Trump has many successful international businesses & properties, he has no business in Russia”.

He could clear all of that right up by releasing his tax returns.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:32:43am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:32:57am

Was that auto update feature ever addressed? It’s still not working here

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:34:40am

re: #476 Lidane

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I just don’t get these people. Strong arm you in to you unity? No one’s forcing you to be there. You chose to be a delegate for a political candidate at a political party convention. Of course, they’re going to encourage rallying behind the candidate. I actually flat out asked some BoBers I know on Facebook finally how they would feel if the roles were reversed and it was Bernie that had legitimately won the nomination and it was the Clinton delegates trying to delegitimize his nomination. I didn’t get an answer unfortunately. I’m trying to appeal to their ego by pointing out that if Clinton gets to appoint judges, that will make it easier for their true progressive of the future to get their laws upheld because if they think there wouldn’t be challenges to the legality of some of what Bernie wants, they’re mistaken.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:34:57am

re: #478 jaunte

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Man of the people y’all.

That’s one thing that annoys me about office denizens (which I am one) complaining constantly about the heat. Guys, you’re inside, feel sorry for the people that work outside.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:35:14am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:35:24am

re: #478 jaunte

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Yeah such a regular guy. What a whiny little hsit. You’re in Virginia, Donald, it gets hot here in the summer. Stop crying and pay your bill like anyone else who has stayed there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:35:35am

Welp I watched that little girls Trump performance and they sucked, but should still be reimbursed for travel and lodging expenses. Also extra cheeseburgers and ice cream for the girl on the right, she looks undernourished.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:35:44am

re: #445 Skip Intro

Being escorted around by a Mafia guy who was friends with their daddy.

washingtonpost.com

Interesting read. Thanks. Wonder what the spawns’ reason for the Moscow trip was.

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iossarian  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:35:53am

People need to chill out.

I am not one for advocating soft drugs, but I advocate soft drugs. It’s legal in many jurisdictions now!

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:35:59am

re: #481 Timothy Watson

Trump is truly the Princess with the Pea.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:36:28am

re: #479 Dave In Austin

Was that auto update feature ever addressed? It’s still not working here

I think it’s disabled on purpose, it was getting someone into trouble at work.

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dharmamark  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:37:04am

re: #486 iossarian

People need to chill out.

I am not one for advocating soft drugs, but I advocate soft drugs. It’s legal in many jurisdictions now!

Seriously, Obama should tell them NOT to smoke pot - they all could relax a little.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:37:46am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

Yeah such a regular guy. What a whiny little hsit. You’re in Virginia, Donald, it gets hot here in the summer. Stop crying and pay your bill like anyone else who has stayed there.

Unless he can’t. The campaign hasn’t been showing much cash reserve.

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iossarian  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:37:50am

I am being silenced by LGF’s fasco-capitalist refusal to implement the feature that makes my comment play at max volume when you hit the “new comments” button.

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danarchy  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:38:35am

re: #419 Stanley Sea

Who dismissed it? Some RW Texas judge?

Apparently the judge dismissed it at the request of the prosecutors office.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:39:20am

re: #484 The Vicious Babushka

Welp I watched that little girls Trump performance and they sucked, but should still be reimbursed for travel and lodging expenses. Also extra cheeseburgers and ice cream for the girl on the right, she looks undernourished.

Free tuition. School of Life.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:39:27am

re: #478 jaunte

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The only one currently reporting on it is the NY Post, but yep:

Donald Trump had a tantrum over air conditioning | New York Post

Donald Trump wants to make America cool again!

The GOP presidential candidate complained that a Virginia hotel, which played host to his town hall event on Monday, failed to turn on air conditioning and made the event feel like a “sauna.”

He threatened not to pay his hotel bill.

“I don’t know what hotel this is, but you ought to try turning on the air conditioning or we’re not going to get you paid,” Trump said at the Hotel Roanoke & Conference Center in Roanoke - where it was 96 degrees on Monday. […]

Hotel management said Trump is full of hot air. […]

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:39:31am

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:39:38am

re: #444 jaunte

Osama bin Laden mentions at either convention: 0*
Because he’s dead.
I wonder who made sure of that?

I think drunk Jerry Falwell, Jr. mentioned him for whatever reason.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:39:38am

re: #461 HappyWarrior

I was born in 1960. Brother in 1965. My sister was born in 1970. In 1971, my parents decided it was time for Mom to have a bigger car because there were 3 kids and squishing them into a small car was a pain. My Mom was a full time Mom who worked with her friends in a little shop they had all opened together to sell arts and crafts and the like. She had her own income. She still could not buy a car without Dad signing for her. I remember her just fuming on the way home from an encounter with a Cadillac dealership where they called her “honey” and “sweetie” and told her she had to come back with a man, either her husband or father, to buy a car WITH HER OWN FUCKING MONEY. And when she did get that car, it wasn’t in her name alone. She was a business owner mind you. I was 11, and I never forgot that. She wasn’t just humiliated, she was PISSED. So was my Dad. It’s a long time ago, but not really. We’re still fighting stupid sexist crap (see, Ailes, Roger and Co.) and I honestly don’t know when this shit will finally die the death it should have by now.

Women younger than me often have no clue about this shit unless someone close to them tells them about it. They’ll have a clue if the GOP has their way.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:41:10am

re: #497 A Mom Anon

Pretty much the same scenario happened to my wife in 2000.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:41:22am

re: #484 The Vicious Babushka

Welp I watched that little girls Trump performance and they sucked, but should still be reimbursed for travel and lodging expenses. Also extra cheeseburgers and ice cream for the girl on the right, she looks undernourished.

Oh sure, just pay these girls whatever they want? Trump gets the best deals!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:42:06am

re: #497 A Mom Anon

I was born in 1960. Brother in 1965. My sister was born in 1970. In 1971, my parents decided it was time for Mom to have a bigger car because there were 3 kids and squishing them into a small car was a pain. My Mom was a full time Mom who worked with her friends in a little shop they had all opened together to sell arts and crafts and the like. She had her own income. She still could not buy a car without Dad signing for her. I remember her just fuming on the way home from an encounter with a Cadillac dealership where they called her “honey” and “sweetie” and told her she had to come back with a man, either her husband or father, to buy a car WITH HER OWN FUCKING MONEY. And when she did get that car, it wasn’t in her name alone. She was a business owner mind you. I was 11, and I never forgot that. She wasn’t just humiliated, she was PISSED. So was my Dad. It’s a long time ago, but not really. We’re still fighting stupid sexist crap (see, Ailes, Roger and Co.) and I honestly don’t know when this shit will finally die the death it should have by now.

Women younger than me often have no clue about this shit unless someone close to them tells them about it. They’ll have a clue if the GOP has their way.

I bought my first car in 1986 and did not encounter any of that bullshit.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:42:30am

re: #494 CuriousLurker

The only one currently reporting on it is the NY Post, but yep:

Here’s the local take on it:

“I think this ballroom and the people who run this hotel should be ashamed,” Drumpf told the crowd. “I think it’s actually cooler outside than it is in this damn ballroom.” (It wasn’t.)

He boasted there were 1,000 people standing outside on the Wells Avenue side in 104-degree heat, listening to him on loudspeakers. (There weren’t; there were at most 50, according to a city firefighter who was outside, and the temperature never hit 100.)

Perhaps jokingly, Drumpf suggested he wouldn’t pay the bill — after his campaign apparatus commandeered a large chunk of the hotel for most of the day. Drumpf’s a tough guy, see. Nobody takes advantage of him. Especially, whoever runs the thermostat.

“I feel like I’m in a sauna. I don’t know what hotel this is,” Drumpf went on. “You let people suffer and don’t turn on the air conditioning. This is ridiculous.”

It was ridiculous, but not in the way Drumpf intended. The ridiculous part was him standing there wailing about it.

He suggested the hotel turned off the AC to save money. (It didn’t. The main ballroom’s air conditioning was set at 63 degrees. “We did have it set as low as it could possibly go,” said Michael Quonce, the hotel’s public relations manager. “It was running at 99 percent efficiency.”)

Drumpf’s comments were chintzy, low-rent, third-rate and wholly unbecoming for a major party presidential nominee. But they are pure Drumpf, full of narcissistic bullying, worrying about his own comfort, picking on an entity that can’t pick back.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:42:48am

In alternative universe where—

RNC mentions of ISIS: 6
DNC mentions of ISIS: 25

Hurr hurr why Democrats talk about ISIS so much they scared!?!??!

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:43:07am

re: #497 A Mom Anon

It took the Supreme Court, in 1978, to fix the law so that women could get their own loans.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:43:08am

re: #497 A Mom Anon

I was born in 1960. Brother in 1965. My sister was born in 1970. In 1971, my parents decided it was time for Mom to have a bigger car because there were 3 kids and squishing them into a small car was a pain. My Mom was a full time Mom who worked with her friends in a little shop they had all opened together to sell arts and crafts and the like. She had her own income. She still could not buy a car without Dad signing for her. I remember her just fuming on the way home from an encounter with a Cadillac dealership where they called her “honey” and “sweetie” and told her she had to come back with a man, either her husband or father, to buy a car WITH HER OWN FUCKING MONEY. And when she did get that car, it wasn’t in her name alone. She was a business owner mind you. I was 11, and I never forgot that. She wasn’t just humiliated, she was PISSED. So was my Dad. It’s a long time ago, but not really. We’re still fighting stupid sexist crap (see, Ailes, Roger and Co.) and I honestly don’t know when this shit will finally die the death it should have by now.

Women younger than me often have no clue about this shit unless someone close to them tells them about it. They’ll have a clue if the GOP has their way.

Which is the importance of talking perspective when talking history. My other grandmother has talked about her father and father in law’s experiences as coal miners before the miners had much if any unionization rights. She’s more conservative than I am but she knows what the past was. She said she just shook her head when she heard Trump say the miners love to mine.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:43:40am

re: #501 makeitstop

Here’s the local take on it:

Trump is pretty close to pivoting now. Will start becoming more statesman like soon.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:43:48am

dept of duh!

“Conservative intellectuals, and conservative politicians, have been in kind of a bubble,” Roy says. “We’ve had this view that the voters were with us on conservatism - philosophical, economic conservatism. In reality, the gravitational center of the Republican Party is white nationalism.”

In the same interview, he added, “It’s a common observation on the left, but it’s an observation that a lot of us on the right genuinely believed wasn’t true - which is that conservatism has become, and has been for some time, much more about white identity politics than it has been about conservative political philosophy. I think today, even now, a lot of conservatives have not come to terms with that problem.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:44:02am

re: #502 Sir John Barron

In alternative universe where—

RNC mentions of ISIS: 6
DNC mentions of ISIS: 25

Hurr hurr why Democrats talk about ISIS so much they scared!?!??!

Exactly. No amount of ISIS mentions wasn’t going to keep the RNC from some sorry effort at concern trolling.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:44:16am

re: #503 Belafon

It took the Supreme Court, in 1978, to fix the law so that women could get their own loans.

Damn activist supreme court justices!

/

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:44:43am

re: #503 Belafon

It took the Supreme Court, in 1978, to fix the law so that women could get their own loans.

That one just astounds me. That’s after my mom graduated high school. And the final laws criminalizing spousal rape in all 50 states happened in the early 90’s when I was a boy.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:45:52am
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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:45:57am

re: #495 Great White Snark

Hmmmm…. no one will miss one of those big lenses in the back… /

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:46:18am

re: #506 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

dept of duh!

“Conservative intellectuals, and conservative politicians, have been in kind of a bubble,” Roy says. “We’ve had this view that the voters were with us on conservatism - philosophical, economic conservatism. In reality, the gravitational center of the Republican Party is white nationalism.”

In the same interview, he added, “It’s a common observation on the left, but it’s an observation that a lot of us on the right genuinely believed wasn’t true - which is that conservatism has become, and has been for some time, much more about white identity politics than it has been about conservative political philosophy. I think today, even now, a lot of conservatives have not come to terms with that problem.”

Conservatism has become about denial hence why when you talk about racism, it’s always defensive and an eagerness to talk about what the parties were in the 1860’s or an ignoring that while the Dixiecrats were Democrats, Nixon and Reagan happily did what they could to make them and their descendants Republicans for the rest of their days.

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dharmamark  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:46:58am

re: #506 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Was that Will?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:47:25am

re: #432 wrenchwench

Happy black servants, the classiest black servants, the most incredible black servants

I have the very best whips…

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CuriousLurker  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:47:33am

re: #496 Sir John Barron

Osama bin Laden mentions at either convention: 0*
Because he’s dead.
I wonder who made sure of that?

I think drunk Jerry Falwell, Jr. mentioned him for whatever reason.

Speaking of Falwell, I wonder how long before someone on the religious right blames the attacks in France & Germany on their people being godless, secular Europeans? (Never mind that a priest was killed—after all he was Catholic and the Catholics have a commie Pope.)

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:47:34am

re: #497 A Mom Anon

I was born in 1960. Brother in 1965. My sister was born in 1970. In 1971, my parents decided it was time for Mom to have a bigger car because there were 3 kids and squishing them into a small car was a pain. My Mom was a full time Mom who worked with her friends in a little shop they had all opened together to sell arts and crafts and the like. She had her own income. She still could not buy a car without Dad signing for her. I remember her just fuming on the way home from an encounter with a Cadillac dealership where they called her “honey” and “sweetie” and told her she had to come back with a man, either her husband or father, to buy a car WITH HER OWN FUCKING MONEY. And when she did get that car, it wasn’t in her name alone. She was a business owner mind you. I was 11, and I never forgot that. She wasn’t just humiliated, she was PISSED. So was my Dad. It’s a long time ago, but not really. We’re still fighting stupid sexist crap (see, Ailes, Roger and Co.) and I honestly don’t know when this shit will finally die the death it should have by now.

Women younger than me often have no clue about this shit unless someone close to them tells them about it. They’ll have a clue if the GOP has their way.

I was born in 1958. Last Sunday, I was headed out for a jog, wearing shorts and a t-shirt, and I was about to ask Mr. w if I was dressed immodestly, and I stopped and thought about it. What it came down to was that I would not have gone out in that outfit from the ages of 16 to 56, because I didn’t want the attention or judgement. Now that I have a gray ponytail to go with the outfit, I get left alone. Then I realized I harbor some resentment over this history.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:48:05am

re: #513 dharmamark

Was that Will?

No, I forget the guy’s first name, his last name is Roy.

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Archangelus  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:48:19am

Feel-good story of the day:

Watch: Angry Neighbor Destroys Racist Trump Sign with Chainsaw

A Donald Trump supporter in Flushing, Michigan, thought it would be cute to post a racist sign on his lawn — but his neighbors weren’t so keen on it.

Local news station WWMT reports that Flushing resident T.J. Tarrant became very upset when he saw that an unnamed neighbor had erected a sign that read, “Make the township white again.”

So, like any good American, he decided there was only one reasonable solution for disposing of it: With a chainsaw.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:48:22am

re: #488 Stanley Sea

I think it’s disabled on purpose, it was getting someone into trouble at work.

Charles did tweak something and turned it back on. The default is that auto-update (the check for new comments, etc.) is turned on. There’s a new checkbox in the account settings where you can disable it if needed.

Auto-update has been working just fine on my end since the implementation of the new stuff. If it’s not working, let Charles know.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:49:08am

re: #503 Belafon

It took the Supreme Court, in 1978, to fix the law so that women could get their own loans.

Attorney Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the ACLU was instrumental in getting a lot of that crap ruled unconstitutional.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:49:58am

re: #497 A Mom Anon

I was born in 1960. Brother in 1965. My sister was born in 1970. In 1971, my parents decided it was time for Mom to have a bigger car because there were 3 kids and squishing them into a small car was a pain. My Mom was a full time Mom who worked with her friends in a little shop they had all opened together to sell arts and crafts and the like. She had her own income. She still could not buy a car without Dad signing for her. I remember her just fuming on the way home from an encounter with a Cadillac dealership where they called her “honey” and “sweetie” and told her she had to come back with a man, either her husband or father, to buy a car WITH HER OWN FUCKING MONEY. And when she did get that car, it wasn’t in her name alone. She was a business owner mind you. I was 11, and I never forgot that. She wasn’t just humiliated, she was PISSED. So was my Dad. It’s a long time ago, but not really. We’re still fighting stupid sexist crap (see, Ailes, Roger and Co.) and I honestly don’t know when this shit will finally die the death it should have by now.

Women younger than me often have no clue about this shit unless someone close to them tells them about it. They’ll have a clue if the GOP has their way.

Then we are of the same age, and I recall what the attitudes about women were like back then.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:50:40am

re: #251 ObserverArt

I’ve known 5 year olds that have more class and feelings than Trump.

i keep on warning my republicans friends that policy pales by comparison when you put an emotionally stunted and clearly mentally ill person in charge as the leader of the free world but if he wins i suppose it will take a few months for this to sink in…

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A Mom Anon  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:50:45am

re: #500 The Vicious Babushka

I think it depends on where you lived and who ran the dealerships too. At that point you just didn’t see many women even working outside the home where I lived (Columbus, OH suburbs). My parents were in Amway too (I know, don’t get me started,lol) and as much as I loathe that company, women were accepted because they could sell stuff to other women. So in reality, my Mom had two sources of income, not dependant solely on my Dad. Her consignment store (which did well for about 5 yrs) and the Amway stuff. And it still wasn’t enough to get her own car. How single women did this I have no idea. It’s not like she was rolling in cash, but she certainly had enough to pay for a car. I will never forget that day. I was with her so I could look after my siblings. She knew what she wanted and had the money and still couldn’t get a car until my Dad went with her.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:50:53am

Your udderly strange gif of the day

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dharmamark  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:51:01am

re: #517 HappyWarrior

Avik Roy… I found it, thanks. I guess I could have Googled it before asking.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:51:15am

re: #520 gocart mozart

Attorney Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the ACLU was instrumental in getting a lot of that crap ruled unconstitutional.

I was reading about RBG’s career before becoming a justice and wow. Quite honestly reminded me of Thurgood Marshall, who did a ton for African-American equal rights before LBJ made him solictor general and later USSC justice. I think this is what Obama meant when he said he wanted judges with empathy. I remember he took a lot of shit for that but it was clear to me, he wanted people with an understanding of what the average American goes through not just some guy like Roberts who more or less lives in an echo chamber.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:51:46am

re: #513 dharmamark

Was that Will?

rachel

msnbc.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:51:48am

re: #525 dharmamark

Avik Roy… I found it, thanks. I guess I could have Googled it before asking.

No sweat. I would have gotten you his first name but I’m multitasking.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:53:14am

re: #501 makeitstop

Here’s the local take on it:

He’s SO freaking disgusting. Such an arrogant, pathologically lying con artist. How is it possible that don’t/won’t see that, FFS? How do those people manage to tie their shoes and dress & feed themselves every day??

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A Mom Anon  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:53:33am

re: #503 Belafon

The year I graduated from high school. Hell, I wasn’t allowed to wear pants to school, dresses and skirts only, until I after I had started Jr. High school (7-8 grade). And even that was restricted. No jeans, only dress slacks and no tennis shoes. The boys were not under any restrictions.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:54:32am

re: #515 CuriousLurker

Speaking of Falwell, I wonder how long before someone on the religious right blames the attacks in France & Germany on their people being godless, secular Europeans? (Never mind that a priest was killed—after all he was Catholic and the Catholics have a commie Pope.)

Some sense of proportion please.

Trump was sweating hot yesterday.

/

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:55:14am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:55:47am

LOLWUT
Actually all the Communists & Socialists supported Bernie & are now supporting Jill Stein

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:56:00am
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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:56:05am

re: #531 Sir John Barron

Sweat is completely foreign to Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:57:04am

re: #533 The Vicious Babushka

“There are many communist & socialists that support Hillary, why don’t you ask ab their support.”

Like who?

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BlackPearl  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:59:26am

re: #536 Sir John Barron

Like who?

Technically, Bernie?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:59:34am

*faints*

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:59:36am
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bratwurst  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:00:27am

Hurr hurr hurr!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:01:31am

re: #538 The Vicious Babushka

*faints*

Uh oh somebody slipped him the punch.

///

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:01:48am

re: #538 The Vicious Babushka

*faints*

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I’m pleasantly surprised. I thought he’d be like H.A.H.A. I’m a joke Goodman.

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KerFuFFler  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:02:09am

re: #494 CuriousLurker

The only one currently reporting on it is the NY Post, but yep:

Yeah, it’s not like Virginia is in play or anything———why not piss off Virginians by not paying your bill there?//

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:02:41am

re: #540 bratwurst

Hurr hurr hurr!

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Yeah because the DNC knows how to fuck with mentally unstable people like oyu Matt.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:03:25am
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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:04:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:04:50am

re: #545 lawhawk

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Mike you do know that unisex bathrooms aren’t a new thing, right? Oh and no American flag? Big fucking deal. The Democrats dond’t need optics to prove they love our country. Your candidate meanwhile fucking denigrates our military.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:05:07am

re: #546 Lidane

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He hasn’t disavowed shit.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:05:53am

re: #545 lawhawk

What is it with GOPers and their fixation on bathrooms?

They’re kinda weird people.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:06:16am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

“I am white, college educated & a teacher…after watching the convention I’m voting for Trump” #ElectionConfessions pic.twitter.com
— Anna Brand (@thebrandedgirl) July 26, 2016

The fact that she started off describing herself as “white” [sic] is quite telling.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:06:29am

re: #546 Lidane

Donald is pretty close to having cutoff every major media outlet or reporter.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:07:00am

re: #549 Sir John Barron

They’re kinda weird people.

I wonder if Huckabee knows that 99% of homes have unisex bathrooms technically.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:07:21am

re: #550 Dr. Matt

Yeah what about all the business about caring only about one’s character and not skin color, etc?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:07:23am

re: #550 Dr. Matt

I agree.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:07:53am

Sheesh:

Alan Grayson, just go away.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:08:27am

re: #529 CuriousLurker

He’s SO freaking disgusting. Such an arrogant, pathologically lying con artist. How is it possible that don’t/won’t see that, FFS? How do those people manage to tie their shoes and dress & feed themselves every day??

There are none so blind, C_L.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:09:17am

re: #552 HappyWarrior

Or that bathroom stalls give people their personal space so that their naughty bits aren’t seen by others.

They seem to be laboring under the assumption that everyone does their business in the open for all to see.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:09:29am

re: #555 lawhawk

Sheesh:

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Alan Grayson, just go away.

Grayson is the closest thing we have to Trump. He’s a dick and proud of it. I hope Murphy beats him. The resume inflation stuff is really unfortunate but it beats being a bullying chode that could actually make Marco Rubio look like an adult. I would dread the idea of voting for Grayson if I were a Florida Democrat.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:09:37am

re: #555 lawhawk

Sheesh:

Alan Grayson, just go away.

He’s the Ted Cruz of the left.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:09:59am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:10:12am

re: #557 lawhawk

Or that bathroom stalls give people their personal space so that their naughty bits aren’t seen by others.

They seem to be laboring under the assumption that everyone does their business in the open for all to see.

Well maybe it’s how things are at Chez Huckabee so he expects all of us are just as weird as him.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:11:14am

re: #558 HappyWarrior

Grayson is the closest thing we have to Trump. He’s a dick and proud of it. I hope Murphy beats him. The resume inflation stuff is really unfortunate but it beats being a bullying chode that could actually make Marco Rubio look like an adult. I would dread the idea of voting for Grayson if I were a Florida Democrat.

Yeah liked him for a brief bit back in the ‘00’s. Sensed he was a little batty, but hell, he was saying stuff I thought I agreed with.

But that’s the trouble with the crazies. You soon discover they aren’t right in the head.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:11:21am

Trump’s Latino outreach continues apace:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:12:08am

re: #563 Lidane

Trump’s Latino outreach continues apace:

This is what makes the tied-polls so hard to fathom. Dude’s gonna get like 2% of the Hispanic vote.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:12:54am

re: #564 Sir John Barron

This is what makes the tied-polls so hard to fathom. Dude’s gonna get like 2% of the Hispanic vote.

and 1.6% of the black vote. He’s gonna need an awful lot of white votes to overcome that.

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iossarian  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:12:58am

re: #559 Dr. Matt

He’s the Ted Cruz of the left.

Great analogy. From a left-wing policy point of view there’s a lot to like but he is truly a nasty piece of work when it comes to the mechanics of the process.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:13:57am

re: #558 HappyWarrior

Grayson is the closest thing we have to Trump. He’s a dick and proud of it. I hope Murphy beats him. The resume inflation stuff is really unfortunate but it beats being a bullying chode that could actually make Marco Rubio look like an adult. I would dread the idea of voting for Grayson if I were a Florida Democrat.

Related:

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:15:16am
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CuriousLurker  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:17:05am

re: #545 lawhawk

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LIAR. Never mind that the entire stage was decked out in stars and red, white & blue, and there are tons of red, white & blue balloons waiting to be released. Not only that, I was watching the live feed last night and saw plenty of people waving flags and all other manner of red, white & blue signs, apparel ad decorations.

But they were democrats and there weren’t a dozen of ginormous flags behind every speaker, so it doesn’t count and the wingnuts won’t check, they’ll believe him.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:17:57am

re: #547 HappyWarrior

Mike you do know that unisex bathrooms aren’t a new thing, right? Oh and no American flag? Big fucking deal. The Democrats dond’t need optics to prove they love our country. Your candidate meanwhile fucking denigrates our military.

He’s lying, of course.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:18:55am

re: #560 Jenner7

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Nyet  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:19:46am

Skimming through the 7 hours of the 1st day of the Dem convention. A bright, optimistic and diverse vision. The exact opposite of the GOP horror show.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:19:51am

re: #567 Lidane

Oh good. More shit for the freaks to scream and bitch about. Even though their side of madness is full of assorted hot, horrible messes. And if he is a wife beating asshole he needs to be prosectuted for it. And resign.

At one time I liked him, he was willing to stand up and not back down on some very progressive issues. The problem with today’s political climate is that if you’re going to stand up and fight, you better have a pretty clean record from top to bottom or everything you’re fighting for is going to be lost as soon as your garbage starts being sorted through.

Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Rage Furby lately? I know his buddy O’Keefe is sniffing around the DNC, I’m half scared to know what these assholes are up to next.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:20:40am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:21:23am

re: #569 CuriousLurker

LIAR. Never mind that the entire stage was decked out in stars and red, white & blue, and there are tons of red, white & blue balloons waiting to be released. Not only that, I was watching the live feed last night and saw plenty of people waving flags and all other manner of red, white & blue signs, apparel ad decoration.

But they were democrats and there weren’t a dozen of ginormous flags behind every speaker, so it doesn’t count and the wingnuts won’t check, they’ll believe him.

Yes but we demand that Dems have GOP-approved flags everywhere!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:21:24am

re: #562 Sir John Barron

Yeah liked him for a brief bit back in the ‘00’s. Sensed he was a little batty, but hell, he was saying stuff I thought I agreed with.

But that’s the trouble with the crazies. You soon discover they aren’t right in the head.

Absolutely. I liked what he said too but he proves to be someone who’s more about being a dick than getting shit done. And for that very reason, I don’t want him in the Senate.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:22:05am

re: #568 wrenchwench

Christian Siriano is also the only person to win Project Runway that’s been even remotely memorable. He’s also savvy enough to sell fashion lines at Payless and Lane Bryant so that people who aren’t rich or sample size can wear his clothes too. Smart guy.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:22:11am

re: #575 Sir John Barron

But do they have fringes on them? /////////////all the way down

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:22:11am

re: #567 Lidane

Related:

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Good move on their part.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:22:29am

re: #520 gocart mozart

Attorney Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the ACLU was instrumental in getting a lot of that crap ruled unconstitutional.

Notorious even then.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:22:38am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:22:38am

re: #570 CuriousLurker

He’s lying, of course.

Of course, he’s lying.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:23:04am

re: #571 lawhawk

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Not just someone with no foreign policy experience, someone who thinks he’s too good to have foreign policy advisers.

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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:23:05am

re: #516 wrenchwench

Grey ponytails are beautiful.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:25:57am
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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:26:12am

re: #584 William Lewis

Grey ponytails are beautiful.

Thanks. I don’t know if I’m ready for the attention. It doesn’t get much.

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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:26:29am

re: #533 The Vicious Babushka

Well, not all socialists. At least this one will happily vote for Hillary this fall.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:26:43am
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:27:12am

re: #577 Lidane

Christian Siriano is also the only person to win Project Runway that’s been even remotely memorable. He’s also savvy enough to sell fashion lines at Payless and Lane Bryant so that people who aren’t rich or sample size can wear his clothes too. Smart guy.

FIERCE, even!

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KGxvi  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:27:56am

re: #581 lawhawk

Tonight’s main event on Monday Night Raw: Carlos Danger vs John Miller in a New York Street Fight.

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blueraven  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:27:57am

Video of Trump saying he may not pay Hotel bill because…well, he feels like he is in a sauna and people are suffering. Oh the humanity!

myfox8.com

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:28:21am

I had not read this earlier.
Sean Hannity got tossed out of WaWa.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:28:52am

re: #588 gocart mozart

Strange quote. But, OK.

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lawhawk  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:28:58am

re: #592 jaunte

IT was a satire. Didn’t happen…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:29:23am

re: #591 blueraven

Video of Trump saying he may not pay Hotel bill because…well, he feels like he is in a sauna and people are suffering. Oh the humanity!

myfox8.com

Make hotel AC’s great again.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:29:24am

re: #594 lawhawk

Ah, thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:30:04am

re: #592 jaunte

I had not read this earlier.
Sean Hannity got tossed out of WaWa.

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This was apparently satire.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:30:11am

Seemed very lifelike!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:31:04am

re: #596 jaunte

Ah, thanks.

You know what I lke about LGF? When people get something wrong. They don’t get defensive. I am glad we try to be accurate as possible. I mean Hannity’s an asshole but that doesn’t mean we should spread falsehoods.

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:31:23am

re: #589 MsJ

FIERCE, even!

What I know about the fashion world would fit in the watch pocket of my Levi’s.

When thinking about my post-accident plans, I’ve thought about getting a job in someone else’s bike shop. My first self-caution was ‘I’ll have to dress nicer.’ To work in a bike shop! That gives you a clue of how fancy I get.

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makeitstop  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:32:05am

re: #588 gocart mozart

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Love that man.

Everybody talks about how badly Barack & Michelle will be missed. I’m gonna miss Uncle Joe, too.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:32:21am

re: #599 HappyWarrior

I do like that everyone here appreciates getting corrections and accurate information.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:32:23am

re: #599 HappyWarrior

You know what I lke about LGF? When people get something wrong. They don’t get defensive. I am glad we try to be accurate as possible. I mean Hannity’s an asshole but that doesn’t mean we should spread falsehoods.

Yeah. Try yelling ‘Fake, but true!!’ here and watch the rotten fruit fly!
//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:33:07am

re: #600 wrenchwench

What I know about the fashion world would fit in the watch pocket of my Levi’s.

When thinking about my post-accident plans, I’ve thought about getting a job in someone else’s bike shop. My first self-caution was ‘I’ll have to dress nicer.’ To work in a bike shop! That gives you a clue of how fancy I get.

“I guess I’ll have to go buy a Park Tools apron now.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:33:12am

re: #602 jaunte

I do like that everyone here appreciates getting corrections and accurate information.

Yeah. It’s good. I can totally see how you would have thought that was real. I fell for it too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:34:11am

re: #605 HappyWarrior

Yeah. It’s good. I can totally see how you would have thought that was real. I fell for it too.

That’s the problem with satire these days - reality is too weird.

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wrenchwench  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:34:32am

re: #604 Blind Frog Belly White

“I guess I’ll have to go buy a Park Tools apron now.”

About 5 years ago, I nixed the jeans with holes. I’ll get there!

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:36:37am

Not the Onion.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:36:42am

re: #606 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s the problem with satire these days - reality is too weird.

I know.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:37:56am

re: #609 HappyWarrior

I know.

See immediately above your post.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:38:06am

re: #608 gocart mozart

Not the Onion.

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Oh that makes total sense. I thought Omarosa was the best secretary of state ever.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:38:42am

re: #610 Blind Frog Belly White

See immediately above your post.

Yeah I just saw that. Is Gary Busey going to give the rebuttal to Obama’s remarks?

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jonhendry  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:40:30am

re: #569 CuriousLurker

Red white and blue aren’t flags, but there were plenty of actual flag backdrops on the screens.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:46:01am

re: #596 jaunte

Ah, thanks.

I almost RT it, but I’ve gotten really leery of anything that doesn’t provide a link to a reliable source.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:48:56am

re: #613 jonhendry

Red white and blue aren’t flags, but there were plenty of actual flag backdrops on the screens.

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Ah, must’ve been before I tuned it or when I was in the kitchen making coffee. Thanks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 12:14:45pm

re: #612 HappyWarrior

Yeah I just saw that. Is Gary Busey going to give the rebuttal to Obama’s remarks?

“Hello, pants!”

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 12:17:13pm

re: #560 Jenner7

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Yes, when I’m looking for cogent foreign policy analysis, my first choice is always a reality show contestant. Sigh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 12:24:42pm

re: #617 BeachDem

Yes, when I’m looking for cogent foreign policy analysis, my first choice is always a reality show contestant. Sigh.

Given that the nominee is a reality show host, it’s all of a piece.

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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 12:26:12pm

re: #568 wrenchwench

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Damn I love that woman.

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b_sharp  Jul 26, 2016 • 12:30:03pm

re: #516 wrenchwench

I was born in 1958. Last Sunday, I was headed out for a jog, wearing shorts and a t-shirt, and I was about to ask Mr. w if I was dressed immodestly, and I stopped and thought about it. What it came down to was that I would not have gone out in that outfit from the ages of 16 to 56, because I didn’t want the attention or judgement. Now that I have a gray ponytail to go with the outfit, I get left alone. Then I realized I harbor some resentment over this history.

Grey is in this year. So is bald, or so I’ve been told.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 1:01:51pm

re: #600 wrenchwench

What I know about the fashion world would fit in the watch pocket of my Levi’s.

When thinking about my post-accident plans, I’ve thought about getting a job in someone else’s bike shop. My first self-caution was ‘I’ll have to dress nicer.’ To work in a bike shop! That gives you a clue of how fancy I get.

…that’s called a watch pocket? Huh, learn something new every day…

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CleverToad  Jul 26, 2016 • 1:07:51pm

re: #457 freetoken

Both my grandmothers were born well before women could vote. I remember my mother telling me her grandmother, who apparently was a bit of a feminist for her day, voted as soon as she could.

Ooh, I can play this game!
My late mother-in-law was born the year that women got the vote, my mother who’s still with us born only four years later. Older than sliced bread, barely younger than the vote. We’ve come a long way, baby, but too much of the progress is still within MY lifetime, let alone hers.

It hasn’t been 100 years yet — it’s taken 96 to get the first woman onto a major party ballot. Mom’s looking forward to voting for Hillary.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 26, 2016 • 2:15:20pm

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

And then there is this:

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Reagan kissed it, tRump fondles it. I don’t want to know what’s next.


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