Amazing Acoustic Jam: Preston Reed, “The Last Viking”

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Here’s a fantastic new extended piece from one of my long-time favorite acoustic guitarists, Preston Reed. It’s a journey you won’t regret taking.

“The Last Viking” composed and performed by Preston Reed. From his album In Here Out There (Outer Bridge Records). Available at prestonreed.com

Film by Alan McMaster @PhantomPower14 PhantomPower2014@gmail.com

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:46:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:49:47pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:52:17pm

It’s worth clicking.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:54:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:57:14pm

I’m pretty sure Bill Clinton’s speech went over much better with people who aren’t cynical jaded horse-race-pimping journalists.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:58:39pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure Bill Clinton’s speech went over much better with people who aren’t cynical jaded horse-race-pimping journalists.

Oddly enough, Chuck Todd seemed quite taken by it.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 8:59:03pm
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KGxvi  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:01:42pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

I always find it funny that the same conservatives who basically shame Hillary Clinton for staying with Bill are the same ones who need fainting couches when told that the divorce rate is over 50%. But the Clintons are in that unique spot between a rock and a hard place - damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:02:50pm

re: #8 KGxvi

I always find it funny that the same conservatives who basically shame Hillary Clinton for staying with Bill are the same ones who need fainting couches when told that the divorce rate is over 50%. But the Clintons are in that unique spot between a rock and a hard place - damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

For conservatives, it’s never been about the principle.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:03:42pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

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She’s forgiven him for his past fuck ups. Why does he need to do that when talking about her on the night she’s nominated for President. Really lame. Bill was wrong to have cheated on Hillary and honestly she chose to forgive him and stay married to him. That’s no one’s business but hers, Bill’s, and Chelsea’s.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:04:07pm

I can’t stay tonight, but I wanted to drop this off before going to bed so ya’ll can relax and not worry about the election. Bet you didn’t know there are licensed psychics:

G’nite, Lizards. ;-)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:04:07pm

re: #8 KGxvi

I always find it funny that the same conservatives who basically shame Hillary Clinton for staying with Bill are the same ones who need fainting couches when told that the divorce rate is over 50%. But the Clintons are in that unique spot between a rock and a hard place - damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

Exactly, great point. I

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:04:43pm

For example:

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:06:08pm

Cory Booker’s on Colbert, and he said he didn’t even know people were booing until after his speech. Boo birds ain’t shit.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:06:28pm

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:06:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:06:46pm

re: #14 No Depression

Cory Booker’s on Colbert, and he said he didn’t even know people were booing until after his speech. Boo birds ain’t shit.

That guy’s got a bright future ahead of him.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:07:52pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

Bet you didn’t know there are licensed psychics :

Karnak senses a driver’s license.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:07:53pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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KGxvi  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:08:16pm

re: #13 jaunte

There actually was a time when spousal rape was not recognized as rape. The idea was that the marriage implied consent. Then one day we kind of all woke up and realized “wow, that shit, right there, is fucked up, we should change it.” We’ve done that quite a few times (often through the Supreme Court but still quite a few times through legislative action), which is why the present is better than the past and we can have hope that the future will be better than the present.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:09:16pm

re: #20 KGxvi

There actually was a time when spousal rape was not recognized as rape. The idea was that the marriage implied consent. Then one day we kind of all woke up and realized “wow, that shit, right there, is fucked up, we should change it.” We’ve done that quite a few times (often through the Supreme Court but still quite a few times through legislative action), which is why the present is better than the past and we can have hope that the future will be better than the present.

Yeah, I’m old enough to remember that time. Those were the olden times sonny. Kurt Cobain on the radio. Playing pogs while playing Donkey Kong on the SNES.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:09:41pm

re: #20 KGxvi

Another sinister shade to “Make America Great Again.”

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:09:49pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

I can’t stay tonight, but I wanted to drop this off before going to bed so ya’ll can relax and not worry about the election. Bet you didn’t know there are licensed psychics :

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G’nite, Lizards. ;-)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:10:27pm

re: #23 Tigger2

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Speaking of psychics, apparently Miss Cleo died?

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:11:13pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Speaking of psychics, apparently Miss Cleo died?

If so, bet she saw that one coming…

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Tigger2  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:11:26pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Speaking of psychics, apparently Miss Cleo died?

There are some real screwballs in the world.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:12:13pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

“Yeah, I’m old enough to remember that time. Those were the olden times sonny. Kurt Cobain on the radio. Playing pogs while playing Donkey Kong on the SNES.”

You’re sooooo young! Enjoy it!

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:13:03pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Yes, she was only 53. The article I read said she’d been in hospice care. Cancer.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:13:20pm

Boom

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:14:16pm

re: #28 majii

Yes, she was only 53. The article I read said she’d been in hospice care. Cancer.

Too damn young.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:14:57pm
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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:15:07pm

Cartoon Hillary on Colbert just called Trump a screaming cantaloupe. LMAO.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:15:25pm

re: #29 jaunte

Boom

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I saw that on the Weather Channel at work last night….like a stick of dynamite took the top of that pole off.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:16:09pm

re: #31 gocart mozart

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What she did was very brave. It’s something I only learned about her during this campaign.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:16:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:18:37pm

You know, I want to say something, people should shut the fuck up about Hillary and Bill’s decision to stay married. You’re not the ones who took vows to each other, they did. It’s okay if you feel you would have divorced your spouse if you had been in her situation but to judge them on it is I’m sorry crap. As someone who has seen how tumultous relationships can be, I don’t really have a lot of respect for people who have no idea about a relationship sticking their noses in it. It’d obviously be one thing if Bill was physically abusive but couples deal with a lot. This one chose to stay together.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:20:06pm

re: #35 gocart mozart

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Is it just me or David Huddleston would have made a great Dick Cheney. He’s also one of the many Johnsons in Blazing Saddle, Orson I believe who gives the authentic frontier jibberish monologue after Gabby Johnson speaks and Kevin Arnold’s Grandpa.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:21:06pm
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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:21:45pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Is it just me or David Huddleston would have made a great Dick Cheney. He’s also one of the many Johnsons in Blazing Saddle, Orson I believe who gives the authentic frontier jibberish monologue after Gabby Johnson speaks and Kevin Arnold’s Grandpa.

Don’t forget also Santa Claus opposite Dudley Moore and John Lithgow in Santa Claus: the Movie.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:23:56pm

re: #39 TedStriker

Don’t forget also Santa Claus opposite Dudley Moore and John Lithgow in Santa Claus: the Movie.

That’s right! But seriously though, I’m not nuts though? Dick Cheney casting if maybe he were 10 years younger or so? He also could play Mr. Potter in a hypothetical It’s A Wonderful Life remake too.

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:25:21pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

That’s right! But seriously though, I’m not nuts though? Dick Cheney casting if maybe he were 10 years younger or so? He also could play Mr. Potter in a hypothetical It’s A Wonderful Life remake too.

Huddleston would have been too tall and physically imposing to play Cheney, IMO.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:26:30pm
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whitebeach  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:26:55pm

Crowd reaction shots can’t really be trusted, but as far as I could see, every woman over about age thirty-five and some of the younger ones too were enchanted by Bill’s story. Anybody here please correct me if you saw differently.

One thing was the obvious admiration and affection he has for his lifelong partner and mother of their beloved child, against which some damn foolishness a couple of decades ago sort of loses its weight. Another, though, is that Bill simply has a way of talking about things that makes you want to hear more. Always has had.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:26:59pm

re: #41 TedStriker

Huddleston would have been too tall and imposing to play Cheney, IMO.

Yeah maybe I’m looking at the face too much here. I just thought Stone made an odd choice going with Richard Dreyfuss but I will concede I have not seen W.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:27:33pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure Bill Clinton’s speech went over much better with people who aren’t cynical jaded horse-race-pimping journalists.

Howard Fineman on MSNBC made a damn good point. He said Bill’s speech and all the other stuff going on is all geared to humanizing her and taking away this image of her having so many unfavorables. And, none of it is geared to please the talking heads (like Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace)

Now Chris Matthews, Chris Hayes and Joy Reid are all telling stories of all the cool, warm and nice things she has done for staff, people she has met, etc. She definitely is not the cold monster everyone has been sold by the conservative media.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:27:45pm

WASHINGTON (July 26, 2016)—The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) will not turn over documents demanded in a subpoena issued by House Committee on Science, Space and Technology Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas). The subpoena orders UCS to deliver—by noon tomorrow—all of its communications with state attorneys general and other nonprofits “related to the issue of climate change.” Smith also subpoenaed state attorneys general from New York and Massachusetts, as well as seven other non-profits. The New York state attorney general announced today he will not comply with the subpoena.
ucsusa.org

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VegasGolfer  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:29:02pm

So ive been traveling againg (in Chicago). Flipping thru the channels to find MSNBC,
I went by fox and checked on hannity. Of course he was saying bill clinton was hitting on chicks with his speech. There was a democrat commentator on saying there was a huge difference between the speakers in the republican and democratic conventions. So at the end hannity asked the democratic commentator who he was voting for. He says you voting trump? I’ll put you down. The guy says no, im voting for the secretary.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:29:15pm

re: #45 ObserverArt

Howard Fineman on MSNBC made a damn good point. He said Bill’s speech and all the other stuff going on is all geared to humanizing her and taking away this image of her having so many unfavorables. And, none of it is geared to please the talking heads (like Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace)

Now Chris Matthews, Chris Hayes and Joy Reid are all telling stories of all the cool, warm and nice things she has done for staff, people she has met, etc. She definitely is not the cold monster everyone has been sold by the conservative media.

Well it worked for me. It humanized her in a way I never had seen her before. I learned a lot about the woman behind the candidate. She’s definitely not the cold monster her detractors think she is. So many people who think she is have no idea about a lot of what she’s done.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:30:11pm

re: #46 jaunte

Lamar Smith is my asshole Congressman. Ugh.

True story — if I lived in the apartment complex directly across the street, I’d be in a Democratic district. Gerrymandering sucks.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:30:34pm

re: #19 TedStriker

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I’ve been seeing this guy a lot!

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Great White Snark  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:30:56pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

Snerk

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:31:06pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

It’s a funny thing about many conservatives——their business is personal, their political opponents’ business is everybody’s business. Whenever something bad happens in their family, they’re always pleading for privacy, which they don’t afford to others they don’t like. None of them had to deal with the Lewinsky mess, but they all seem to think it’s their business to meddle in it. None of them are married to H or B, so they should shut up. The nation already showed the GOPers what they thought about their meddling in the Clintons’ marriage in the 1990s, and it looks like they need to be reminded. In trying to use Lewinsky to bring Pres. Clinton down, they brought themselves down by losing seats in Congress. I don’t think most Americans care for intervening in others’ marriages. What is important to them isn’t important to millions of other Americans. Tending to my own business keeps me so busy that I don’t have the time to meddle in others’ business. GOPers need to learn to mind their own d*mn business. They’re back to Pres. Clinton and Lewinsky because they’re out of ideas for governing. If it doesn’t involve deciding who can use what restroom, what healthcare decisions women can make about their own bodies, or worrying about ISIS while doing nothing about it, they have zero solutions to any problem we face. Trump saying on Twitter tonight that he won’t reveal his plan for dealing with ISIS is a dodge. He doesn’t have a plan other than the one he mentioned last week which involves holding “meetings.” If he had what he thought was a workable plan, he’d have mentioned it at the GOP convention last week, but he didn’t. You can’t talk about what you don’t have, but persons like him can sell a whole lot of nonsensical bullsh*t and word salad to gullible people.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:31:22pm

re: #46 jaunte

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The denial is bad enough but they make it that much worse by harassing climate change scientists.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:33:17pm

re: #52 majii

It’s a funny thing about many conservatives——their business is personal, their political opponents’ business is everybody’s business. Whenever something bad happens in their family, they’re always pleading for privacy, which they don’t afford to others they don’t like. None of them had to deal with the Lewinsky mess, but they all seem to think it’s their business to meddle in it. None of them are married to H or B, so they should shut up. The nation already showed the GOPers what they thought about their meddling in the Clintons’ marriage in the 1990s, and it looks like they need to be reminded. In trying to use Lewinsky to bring Pres. Clinton down, they brought themselves down by losing seats in Congress. I don’t think most Americans care for intervening in others’ marriages. What is important to them isn’t important to millions of other Americans. Tending to my own business keeps me so busy that I don’t have the time to meddle in others’ business. GOPers need to learn to mind their own d*mn business. They’re back to Pres. Clinton and Lewinsky because they’re out of ideas for governing. If it doesn’t involve deciding who can use what restroom, what healthcare decisions women can make about their own bodies, or worrying about ISIS while doing nothing about it, they have zero solutions to any problem we face. Trump saying on Twitter tonight that he won’t reveal his plan for dealing with ISIS is a dodge. He doesn’t have a plan other than the one he mentioned last week which involves holding “meetings.” If he had what he thought was a workable plan, he’d have mentioned it at the GOP convention last week, but he didn’t. You can’t talk about what you don’t have, but persons like him can sell a whole lot of nonsensical bullsh*t and word salad to gullible people.

To be honest, I wasn’t just thinking of conservatives when I posted that, I’ve seen plenty of supposedly open-minded lefty types bitch about it. I’m just so sick of self-righteous bs. Whether it’s left, right, whatever. It just sickens me the kind of shit people will engage in simply because they think someone’s the devil incarnate politically.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:33:19pm

re: #43 whitebeach

Crowd reaction shots can’t really be trusted, but as far as I could see, every woman over about age thirty-five and some of the younger ones too were enchanted by Bill’s story. Anybody here please correct me if you saw differently.

One thing was the obvious admiration and affection he has for his lifelong partner and mother of their beloved child, against which some damn foolishness a couple of decades ago sort of loses its weight. Another, though, is that Bill simply has a way of talking about things that makes you want to hear more. Always has had.

To be perfectly honest, the start of Bill’s speech was off to me. My husband saw it differently, but I complete got what both Rachel and Nicole Wallace were saying.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:34:16pm

re: #55 MsJ

To be perfectly honest, the start of Bill’s speech was off to me. My husband saw it differently, but I complete got what both Rachel and Nicole Wallace were saying.

It did start off a little slow I concede.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:34:54pm

re: #38 MsJ

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Wow. I don’t know how many people pay attention to him anymore, but it still is cool he said that.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:35:00pm

re: #42 Lidane

I thought RWers claim to be pro-life above all else? Can one not be a POC and pro-life at the same time? I wonder why this young lady had to make the distinction that the College Republican chapter at her college would be pro-white? I’m wondering who she is afraid of.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:35:07pm

re: #55 MsJ

To be perfectly honest, the start of Bill’s speech was off to me. My husband saw it differently, but I complete got what both Rachel and Nicole Wallace were saying.

Then maybe you can explain it to me.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:37:06pm

re: #58 majii

I wonder why this young lady had to make the distinction that the College Republican chapter at her college would be pro-white?

Seemed redundant to me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:38:09pm

Honestly, I think the Clinton speech was an attempt to sort of reitnroduce his wife to those of us who were either not around in 1992 or too young to really notice. Did you guys catch his point about how she had a role in ensuring a lot of children got pre-school in the 90’s? That definitely to me was a nudge to people in my generation that Hillary is much more than the comic book character that her detractors have made her out to be. As I’ve said, I learned a lot about who Hillary is and waht she’s done in that speech. I admit, it was a little slow paced but I think it served a purpose. It’s just too bad that so many people may already have their mind made up.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:38:29pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

It did start off a little slow I concede.

Not slow. Uncomfortable.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:39:32pm

re: #42 Lidane

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I’m sure the few sane campus conservatives left are just heartbroken by this whites only, Republican club. Nah, it’s going to be funny when they eventually start hating on each other.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:39:49pm

re: #62 MsJ

Not slow. Uncomfortable.

Ah I see now what you mean.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:40:13pm

re: #35 gocart mozart

Wow, I always thought that was Charles Durning.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:41:22pm

re: #65 gocart mozart

Wow, I always thought that was Charles Durning.

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Actually after watching that, I can totally see how he played Peter Griffin’s father on Family Guy. He was the cop negotiating in Dog Day Afternoon too right?

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:41:54pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:42:26pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

Then maybe you can explain it to me.

This is because we know Bills history. Had he not been a bit of a philanderer it wouldn’t have struck the same chord.

He didn’t refer to Hillary, he was being almost coy. Of course he meant her, but it was weird. It brought back thoughts that - in reality - it might not have been her.

It was uncomfortable.

It got better but the first 15 minutes were not great. Not typical Bill.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:42:41pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Well it worked for me. It humanized her in a way I never had seen her before. I learned a lot about the woman behind the candidate. She’s definitely not the cold monster her detractors think she is. So many people who think she is have no idea about a lot of what she’s done.

And the fact that know one knows some of this stuff means she did it honestly and not as a fake deed for the media to cover and show.

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No Depression  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:42:57pm

re: #55 MsJ

To be perfectly honest, the start of Bill’s speech was off to me. My husband saw it differently, but I complete got what both Rachel and Nicole Wallace were saying.

I think I know what you mean. The reaching for her shoulder thing made me feel a little uncomfortable.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:43:34pm

I’ve been streaming the cable news for a few minutes and flipping between CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News. What a bunch of shit. I’m glad I cut the cable 4 years ago.

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BigPapa  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:43:47pm

I became (somewhat) politically aware in 91 when bombs started dropping in Kuwait. Listened to a crass douchebag rip on the Clinton’s for a little while till it became a little over the top.

And now I’m going to vote for Hillary. Not a ‘hold my nose and pull’ vote, but a solid I’m With Her. And my apolitical wife is excited to go with me, we’re doing it together.

I think about my mom, my sister, and a many other female friends. What do they think about this? What do they think about this moment?

It’s time. America Fuck Yeah. Ready to catch up the UK and Germany because we lead the world!

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:43:56pm

news.google.com

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:45:01pm

re: #46 jaunte

Lamar Smith can go pound sand in the deepest, darkest pit in hell. These GOP b*tches in Congress want to intimidate scientists while declaring they’re not scientists at the same time when it comes to climate change. I’m glad the scientists are refusing to turn their documents over to such nitwits. The far right GOPers in Congress must go. If they had their way, they’d force scientists to only release scientific information that favors their opinion/POV. I was on the Right Wing Watch site earlier and read that Inhofe is screaming that schools are ruining our kids! He didn’t like that one of his grand-kids challenged him about his claim that climate change is a myth, so his conclusion is that all schools are indoctrinating kids. He should have been glad the kid wanted to talk about climate change with him, but he wasn’t because he’s a bought and paid for BIG ENERGY f*cker. I also remember him saying a few years ago that he could believe climate change is real, but he won’t because addressing it would cost too much. He’s not thinking about leaving the world a better place for his grand-kids even though he’ll express fake concern in public for our kids’ future. Yeah, right.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:45:55pm

re: #73 jaunte

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Wasn’t very long ago. See, I may be young but I am always looking at perspective. I’m under 30 yet had a grandmother born women’s suffrage. It’s actually what makes me both progressive and also pragmatic because I see that so much can be improved but at the same time I can see that we take a lot for granted too.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:48:21pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Yes, it’s too easy to imagine we can never slip back. And now we have a whole political party openly saying they want to take “the country back.”

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:48:33pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

All of them, left and right, need to butt out of the Clintons’ marriage. I mentioned those on the right specifically because they’ve been mentioning it on Twitter a lot during and after Pres. Clinton’s speech. People need to learn to mind their own business.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:49:32pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:50:17pm

I’ll just say as someone whose “meeting the spouse” story can come across as stalkerish (and that’s on my part, not his), I can’t really judge Bill for that.

For me, it was sweet. It emphasized her independence. (I mean hell, she turned him down twice.) Clearly some other folks feel differently. I guess another part of it is that I genuinely do believe there is a real relationship between the two of them. It’s had its bumps, for sure, but they’re still going and I believe there’s a lot of love and respect there. I don’t think you can watch him congratulate her on the night she became the presumptive nominee and not think that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:51:29pm

re: #78 FormerDirtDart

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Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel!

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:51:39pm

And L’il Kim chimes in.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:52:18pm

re: #76 jaunte

Yes, it’s too easy to imagine we can never slip back. And now we have a whole political party openly saying they want to take “the country back.”

Yep. I remember a few years back tehre was a silly Twitter tag. Idontneedfeminism or something like that. And I’m sorry. I know I’m a guy but it really rubbed me the wrong way to see young women around my age completely dismissing feminism when in fact the actions of past feminists are very they had what they had. Another one I’ve heard is “Unions once had a use but they no longer do.” I’ve never worked in a coal mine like my great grandfathers did or even in construction like my grandfather did but you know what, I know that the things they needed to fight for then still need to eb fought for now. Collective bargaining is a basic human right.

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:52:45pm

re: #55 MsJ

To be perfectly honest, the start of Bill’s speech was off to me. My husband saw it differently, but I complete got what both Rachel and Nicole Wallace were saying.

You surprise me with that comment. Are you maybe being a bit too cynical? Or, is the past issues Bill had getting in the way with what to me seemed an honest walk down memory lane.

It fit what I always thought…that Hillary is the more natural politician and Bill got by on personality. She was the one that called his bluff. She may have been the one to call him out in the whole Lewinski affair too and Bill had to go through the whole process to prove his worth all over again. And it must have worked, they are still together.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:53:40pm

re: #81 MsJ

And L’il Kim chimes in.

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So Donald picked up Kim Jong Un and Charles Manson’s endorsement tonight. This is one really weird dream isn’t it? When I wake up tomorrow, Gene Eric Republican is going to be the Republican nominee and he’s going to be at least make some sense?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:54:34pm

re: #83 ObserverArt

You surprise me with that comment. Are you maybe being a bit too cynical? Or, is the past issues Bill had getting in the way with what to me seemed an honest walk down memory lane.

It fit what I always thought…that Hillary is the more natural politician and Bill got by on personality. She was the one that called his bluff. She may have been the one to call him out in the whole Lewinski affair too and Bill had to go through the whole process to prove his worth all over again. And it must have worked, they are still together.

At the end, when he was talking about how Hillary just won’t quit on people, I had the sense that he almost, almost was going to say that she hadn’t given up on him. But I think he did the right thing to not, because it would have made the focus of the speech the affair, and not what Hillary has done.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:54:39pm

re: #77 majii

All of them, left and right, need to butt out of the Clintons’ marriage. I mentioned those on the right specifically because they’ve been mentioning it on Twitter a lot during and after Pres. Clinton’s speech. People need to learn to mind their own business.

Absolutely. It really isn’t your business. And here’s the thing if someone was judging their candidate’s marriage, they’d get pissed as hell.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:56:31pm

re: #85 klys (maker of Silmarils)

At the end, when he was talking about how Hillary just won’t quit on people, I had the sense that he almost, almost was going to say that she hadn’t given up on him. But I think he did the right thing to not, because it would have made the focus of the speech the affair, and not what Hillary has done.

Gosh, I never thought about that. That’s actually a really good inference.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:57:19pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel!

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bratwurst  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:57:44pm

re: #85 klys (maker of Silmarils)

At the end, when he was talking about how Hillary just won’t quit on people, I had the sense that he almost, almost was going to say that she hadn’t given up on him. But I think he did the right thing to not, because it would have made the focus of the speech the affair, and not what Hillary has done.

I can guarantee you the VERY SAME people saying that Bill should have included at least a line acknowledging issues in their marriage would be aghast over him making the speech too much about himself if he had.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:58:46pm

lolwut?!?

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:58:55pm

No No No - (Cop Out Scene)

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 9:59:16pm

re: #83 ObserverArt

You surprise me with that comment. Are you maybe being a bit too cynical? Or, is the past issues Bill had getting in the way with what to me seemed an honest walk down memory lane.

It fit what I always thought…that Hillary is the more natural politician and Bill got by on personality. She was the one that called his bluff. She may have been the one to call him out in the whole Lewinski affair too and Bill had to go through the whole process to prove his worth all over again. And it must have worked, they are still together.

I don’t care about what Bill did. I always say I don’t care who the POTUS is screwing as long as it’s not me (US). And their issues are theirs alone. No one has should have an opinion about what she should or shouldn’t have done. It’s their relationship. Period.

I think what he said was sweet. It humanized her in ways that hadn’t been done before. By the time he was done I was somewhat awed.

But I felt what I did at the beginning. I felt it as it was happening. What Rachel and Wallace said was literally exactly what I was feeling. (Wallace especially. Which I hate. I’m agreeing with Erick Erickson, Frum, et al, and it’s FREAKING ME OUT!)

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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:00:08pm

re: #70 No Depression

I think I know what you mean. The reaching for her shoulder thing made me feel a little uncomfortable.

Are not all beginning relationships, especially when young and uncomfortable (scared to approach) a bit of stalking?

And really Bill was admitting it, he was not the big hang dog everyone thought he is.

And is everyone forgetting that Monica Lewinski was in some ways the stalker in that whole thing. She has admitted it has she not? That is what everyone seems to forget. Monica admits she was fine with it, it was mutual.

I think the way it was painted by the media and how it was made into an impeachable offense play it like he was the initiator. I think Monica made herself available. Check out her story, it might surprise you.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:00:10pm

re: #91 Lidane

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Dude just no. Just fucking no.

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:01:07pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

Maybe auditioning for Alex Jones?
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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:02:08pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

lolwut?!?

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Oh? Well that explains it. I’m convinced now.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:04:09pm

re: #95 jaunte

This is all I got. I’m not blocking or muting yet, this account is … interesting.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:04:34pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Are not all beginning relationships, especially when young and uncomfortable (scared to approach) a bit of stalking?

And really Bill was admitting it, he was not the big hang dog everyone thought he is.

And is everyone forgetting that Monica Lewinski was in some ways the stalker in that whole thing. She has admitted it has she not? That is what everyone seems to forget. Monica admits she was fine with it, it was mutual.

I think the way it was painted by the media and how it was made into an impeachable offense play it like he was the initiator. I think Monica made herself available. Check out her story, it might surprise you.

Monica TOTALLY made herself available. She walked to the door of the Oval Office and showed him her thong.

I had a friend who was in politics (before the whole thing soured her completely) and she said everyone knew Bill liked women and she wouldn’t have been remotely surprised if a political foe put Lewinsky up to it.

FWIW, I think Bill was the best POTUS (behind Obama) in my lifetime.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:04:51pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

This is all I got. I’m not blocking or muting yet, this account is … interesting.

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It’s true Charlie, they glued his testicles to his brain, it explains everything!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:05:00pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Are not all beginning relationships, especially when young and uncomfortable (scared to approach) a bit of stalking?

And really Bill was admitting it, he was not the big hang dog everyone thought he is.

And is everyone forgetting that Monica Lewinski was in some ways the stalker in that whole thing. She has admitted it has she not? That is what everyone seems to forget. Monica admits she was fine with it, it was mutual.

I think the way it was painted by the media and how it was made into an impeachable offense play it like he was the initiator. I think Monica made herself available. Check out her story, it might surprise you.

I have to admit, I did the “stare across the classroom at the girl” thing in college because I was too shy to do anything else. It worked, and I’m sure it would have been at least a little creepy if it hadn’t.

(That relationship didn’t work out, but the one that started a few months later, with the girl who set us up, is still going strong 16 years later…)

Edit: I can’t math tonight.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:05:32pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:06:07pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Are not all beginning relationships, especially when young and uncomfortable (scared to approach) a bit of stalking?

And really Bill was admitting it, he was not the big hang dog everyone thought he is.

And is everyone forgetting that Monica Lewinski was in some ways the stalker in that whole thing. She has admitted it has she not? That is what everyone seems to forget. Monica admits she was fine with it, it was mutual.

I think the way it was painted by the media and how it was made into an impeachable offense play it like he was the initiator. I think Monica made herself available. Check out her story, it might surprise you.

And yes, I know he should have not gotten involved. But humans.

And with that, I am out. About to have my head fall onto my keyboard!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:07:08pm

re: #98 MsJ

Monica TOTALLY made herself available. She walked to the door of the Oval Office and showed him her thong.

I had a friend who was in politics (before the whole thing soured her completely) and she said everyone knew Bill liked women and she wouldn’t have been remotely surprised if a political foe put Lewinsky up to it.

FWIW, I think Bill was the best POTUS (behind Obama) in my lifetime.

From what I remember reading later, Lewinsky had an affair with one of her professors in California. Honestly, both parties acted improperly but in the end it was between Bill and Hillary how they would handle it. The American public did not need the Republican Party to push a narrative that Bill Clinton was unique in that he had affairs and they certainly had no right to twist the story into Lewinsky being an innocent.

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gocart mozart  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:07:51pm

This is where Trump got his campaign from.

MADtv Darlene McBride- Take Back America Tour

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:08:02pm

re: #92 MsJ

I don’t care about what Bill did. I always say I don’t care who the POTUS is screwing as long as it’s not me (US). And their issues are theirs alone. No one has should have an opinion about what she should or shouldn’t have done. It’s their relationship. Period.

I think what he said was sweet. It humanized her in ways that hadn’t been done before. By the time he was done I was somewhat awed.

But I felt what I did at the beginning. I felt it as it was happening. What Rachel and Wallace said was literally exactly what I was feeling. (Wallace especially. Which I hate. I’m agreeing with Erick Erickson, Frum, et al, and it’s FREAKING ME OUT!)

As someone who didn’t watch MSNBC, can you at least summarize what Rachel and Wallace said? Otherwise it’s hard for me to follow the objection. The only thing I’ve seen downstairs was someone described it as “non-feminist” which …Bill Clinton in the early 70s is not who I think of when I think of feminism, so okay?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:08:03pm

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:09:32pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

ILLEGAL HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION! What a great name for a death metal band!

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:13:19pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

So Donald picked up Kim Jong Un and Charles Manson’s endorsement tonight. This is one really weird dream isn’t it? When I wake up tomorrow, Gene Eric Republican is going to be the Republican nominee and he’s going to be at least make some sense?

I think the Manson one might be fake. Said he wS in San Quentin ,and he’s in Corcoran . Don’t ask how I know . OK ask. I had to set up a meeting for my boss there and it made me really nervous once I read about what a rough prison it is. All went well though.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:13:30pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

This is all I got. I’m not blocking or muting yet, this account is … interesting.

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The guy is literally to stupid to be allowed internet access…

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:14:49pm

re: #105 klys (maker of Silmarils)

As someone who didn’t watch MSNBC, can you at least summarize what Rachel and Wallace said? Otherwise it’s hard for me to follow the objection. The only thing I’ve seen downstairs was someone described it as “non-feminist” which …Bill Clinton in the early 70s is not who I think of when I think of feminism, so okay?

To me it had nothing to do with feminism at all. Like not at all.

As he started the story he didn’t say “Hillary”, he said The Girl. Of course he meant her, but it was just weird. I kept thinking that he has known history and it was being coy and cute by half. I kept seeing other women in my mind that he was chasing after. It was pure emotion on my part. But I felt it pretty strongly.

I can’t summarize what they said. I’m sorry. But I agreed completely.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:14:59pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

ILLEGAL HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION! What a great name for a death metal band!

I was thinking adult contempo.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:15:04pm

Least Surprising News of the Day:

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:17:06pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:17:52pm

re: #108 BeachDem

I think the Manson one might be fake. Said he wS in San Quentin ,and he’s in Corcoran . Don’t ask how I know . OK ask. I had to set up a meeting for my boss there and it made me really nervous once I read about what a rough prison it is. All went well though.

Nah, that’s a legit point.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:18:21pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

This just in! from weirdo …

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:18:45pm

re: #112 Lidane

Least Surprising News of the Day:

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See Berners, Assenge doesn’t give a fuck about you, he cares about fucking over Clinton and the Democrats and don’t think for a second that he wouldn’t screw you over if he thought it would help his Russian pals.

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BeachDem  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:18:50pm

re: #89 bratwurst

I can guarantee you the VERY SAME people saying that Bill should have included at least a line acknowledging issues in their marriage would be aghast over him making the speech too much about himself if he had.

Also, Chelsea was there and I think that girl has heard enough shit about that already. I can’t believe the pundit assholes thought he should bring it up. Would have served no purpose other than giving them all something to clutch their pearls over.

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whitebeach  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:19:09pm

re: #55 MsJ

To be perfectly honest, the start of Bill’s speech was off to me. My husband saw it differently, but I complete got what both Rachel and Nicole Wallace were saying.

Thanks for the answer. Your opinion is one of those here that I always respect.

Maybe there’s a generational thing involved. I’m pretty much exactly Bill’s age. I remember very clearly and in some ways very uncomfortably exactly what things were like at the time of the beginning of his story. It was just the way life was then. There occurred some kind of great tipping point in the late sixties and early seventies. I experienced it. Even a few years on either side of that divide was like the difference between a whole generation before or after.

A few years ago I heard a panel of academics and writers and other “experts” discussing what was the most important event of the twentieth century. There were the predictable ideas about world wars, medical advances and genetic discoveries, the advent of computers, moon landings and so on. Then one panelist said that by far the thing that had most changed society and the lives of everyone in it was the invention and then the widespread availability of the birth control pill. The more I thought about it, the more I thought he(!) was right.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:19:26pm

re: #115 teleskiguy

This just in! from weirdo …

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how much does he cost to subscribe to his newsletter?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:19:27pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

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Tell him he’s got one of the best parody accounts on Twitter, that you almost took him seriously at first, but then you realize NOBODY could be THAT crazy. And when he tries to tell you he’s not kidding, congratulate him on staying in character and wink at him to let him know you’re in on the joke.

Watch him go apeshit.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:19:38pm

I wonder if CNN or MSNBC ever talked about Trump’s affairs and marriages.

All in all, the media sucked tonight. Their commentary was waaaay off base, even Rachel. Figures. Bill tries to humanize his evil, lying robot of a wife and they piss on it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:19:40pm

re: #117 BeachDem

Also, Chelsea was there and I think that girl has heard enough shit about that already. I can’t believe the pundit assholes thought he should bring it up. Would have served no purpose other than giving them all something to clutch their pearls over.

Let’s all be real: they’re clutching their pearls either way.

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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:26:36pm

So, just got to work tonight after spending 2+ hours in the ER getting 4 stitches in my lower lip. I was getting ready to get up for work and the box fan on my headboard fell on my face. Not my idea of a fun time.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:27:17pm

re: #118 whitebeach

Thank you. That’s very kind.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:27:57pm

re: #123 William Lewis

So, just got to work tonight after spending 2+ hours in the ER getting 4 stitches in my lower lip. I was getting ready to get up for work and the box fan on my headboard fell on my face. Not my idea of a fun time.

A good lesson in earthquake country. Nothing above your head in bed.

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gwangung  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:28:21pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

What she did was very brave. It’s something I only learned about her during this campaign.

Which makes all this bullshit about Sanders marching in the South and Clinton a Goldwater Girl just what it is—-bullshit

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:29:58pm

re: #121 Jenner7

I wonder if CNN or MSNBC ever talked about Trump’s affairs and marriages.

All in all, the media sucked tonight. Their commentary was waaaay off base, even Rachel. Figures. Bill tries to humanize his evil, lying robot of a wife and they piss on it.

Ha! Like they would. Or mention those oh so Christian values crowd fawning over a thrice married serial adulterer.

I don’t care about the adultery (although more than once is a stretch…why get married?) but the hypocrisy burns.

Trump gets a full pass.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:31:21pm

re: #126 gwangung

Which makes all this bullshit about Sanders marching in the South and Clinton a Goldwater Girl just what it is—-bullshit

Absolutely. And you know what, I do fault the Sanders campaign big time for that and suggesting that African-Americans were too ignorant to know that Bernie was their best choice. I mean good for Bernie for doing what he did in college but Clinton really did go the extra mile with what she did and it actually had her forming relationships with the African-American community. Bernie could never talk with sincerity about having built a relationship with the African-American community. It’s nice that he did what he did but Clinton really went the extra mile.

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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:33:57pm

re: #125 Single-handed sailor

I live in probably the most stable part of the country. Ah well, could have been worse.

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Jenner7  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:38:08pm

I really loved the end with the glass shattering and Hillary appearing. DNC did a good job of putting all of this together.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:39:27pm

re: #130 Jenner7

I really loved the end with the glass shattering and Hillary appearing. DNC did a good job of putting all of this together.

I feel pretty good about it all now. She should get a decent bounce.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:39:36pm
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gwangung  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:41:05pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. And you know what, I do fault the Sanders campaign big time for that and suggesting that African-Americans were too ignorant to know that Bernie was their best choice. I mean good for Bernie for doing what he did in college but Clinton really did go the extra mile with what she did and it actually had her forming relationships with the African-American community. Bernie could never talk with sincerity about having built a relationship with the African-American community. It’s nice that he did what he did but Clinton really went the extra mile.

And the thing is…this has been out there for some time. It hasn’t been boasted about by Clinton…and I bet the reason why is that she’s done lots and lots of other stuff she doesn’t feel is that remarkable.

(But there’s not excuse for Sanders supporters peddling their bullshit. Not that they’ll feel any shame now….)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:41:31pm

re: #132 Lidane

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You don’t make a post-industrial economy grow like that. Someone needs to call him out on his hypocrisy on trade. Ask him if he’s so anti-outsourcing of jobs, why are most of his brands manufactured overseas.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:43:50pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

You don’t make a post-industrial economy grow like that. Someone needs to call him out on his hypocrisy on trade. Ask him if he’s so anti-outsourcing of jobs, why are most of his brands manufactured overseas.

Or what he thinks trade has to do with the GI bill…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:45:15pm

re: #133 gwangung

And the thing is…this has been out there for some time. It hasn’t been boasted about by Clinton…and I bet the reason why is that she’s done lots and lots of other stuff she doesn’t feel is that remarkable.

(But there’s not excuse for Sanders supporters peddling their bullshit. Not that they’ll feel any shame now….)

TO be honest, a lot was stuff I didn’t know a ton about. I knew about the undercover work. I think so many people especially people in my generation have been lazy and haven’t tried to look for reasons to invalidate why they may not like Clinton. I mean, it’s one thing to have biases but but it’s another never to challenge that bias. I readily admit it, I never thought much of Clinton but when I actually listened to her start talking more and seeing teh real meat behind her, I saw someone I feel could be a quite effective president. and someone who was far more likable than the detractors make her out to be.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 10:46:11pm

re: #135 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Or what he thinks trade has to do with the GI bill…

That’s what Cuomo should have followed up with. But yeah. What does trade have to do with a program that ensures our vets get their due for serving our country. Trump’s gotten so many passes for his political ignorance.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:01:08pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

I used to love to play the pinball machines when I was at UGA. Trump’s answer reminded me of the way the little steel ball would go quickly from one point to another in the game. He was asked about the GI bill but talked about traveling, trade, growing the economy, and winning states in landslides, and none of it had anything to do with veterans’ issues.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:04:23pm

Cuban can be an ass, but this is A+ trolling:

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:06:19pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:06:52pm

re: #129 William Lewis

I live in probably the most stable part of the country. Ah well, could have been worse.

Colorado

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:08:39pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:13:03pm

re: #139 Lidane

Cuban can be an ass, but this is A+ trolling:

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:18:24pm
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whitebeach  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:21:07pm

re: #138 majii

I used to love to play the pinball machines when I was at UGA. Trump’s answer reminded me of the way the little steel ball would go quickly from one point to another in the game. He was asked about the GI bill but talked about traveling, trade, growing the economy, and winning states in landslides, and none of it had anything to do with veterans’ issues.

Oh yeah, he’s about the lousiest sleaziest lying POS any of us is likely to run across, and it’s a damn disgrace how the so-called journalists let him skate every time.

But on more important matters, I just downloaded a 1990s-era game called Psycho Pinball, runs from a DOS(!) box and I still need to fiddle with the sound. But it’s a beauty. Google it (says the devil on your left shoulder), what does time mean when we’re talking pinball?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:21:26pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:21:41pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

When PolitiFact has to break down the difference of slaves getting paid vs slave OWNERS getting paid for the work of their slaves this country is fucked up beyond any fucking recognition.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:25:55pm

re: #147 MsJ

When PolitiFact has to break down the difference of slaves getting paid vs slave OWNERS getting paid for the work of their slaves this country is fucked up beyond any fucking recognition.

Yeah I can’t believe that had to be spelled out.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:26:15pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

Anyone who wants to know anything about anything only needs to ask Bill O’Reilly about it. The guy has an ego the size of the moon and assumes he has the right to speak for everyone, and that he’s always right about everything. I guess he’s never heard the word rations.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:27:16pm
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Nyet  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:33:26pm

I don’t think I’ll ever respect King again but after seeing this comment I’ll hold my nose and say Thanks, Shaun.

My “Bernie or Bust” daughter just told me that after reading his article, she will hold her nose and vote for Hillary. I’ve never been happier.


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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:39:43pm

re: #151 Nyet

Shaun was a fuck, I agree. Shaun was a writer for the black-people-shot-by-white-cops beat. Until he lost his shit because of BERNIE and all that goes with that shit - which is nothing, as it has been for a while! - and magical thinking.

After Hillary gets inaugurated I might follow Shaun King on Twitter again. Until then, I think he’s a deluded loon.

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Lidane  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:41:11pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:42:41pm
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TK-421  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:42:58pm
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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:44:59pm

re: #147 MsJ

I was surprised when I finally noticed all of the outrage and disbelief some were expressing today after the FL said that slaves helped build the WH. Raw Story had a post about some RW radio talker who questioned what the FL said. I guess they’d go really bonkers if they knew Benjamin Banneker did the survey work to lay out the streets in D.C, and that he was “blah.” I don’t know where O’Reilly got the idea that slaves were well fed. Food was rationed at the beginning of each week, and if they ate it all before the beginning of the next week, they were SOL. I thought this information was common knowledge, but apparently it’s not for some people. If some of these folks would stop running their mouths so much, they’d have time to study and learn the real history of their own country. Just because their guts tell them something is true does not make it so.

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:47:46pm

re: #150 MsJ

I’ve found a channel that shows old episodes of “I Love Lucy” late at night. I used to watch the show when I was a kid, but I never realized what comedic geniuses Arnaz and Ball were. They were really talented actors.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:55:19pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

I AM A LICENSED PSYCHIC AND I FOUND OUT THAT TRUMP WILL WIN!

Does that mean that you lose your license if HRC wins?

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majii  Jul 26, 2016 • 11:58:43pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

I think what happened to Shaun was that he went from being essentially a nobody to a writer for a major NYC newspaper in a short period of time, and it went to his head. He then seemed to begin to think that he had the answers to every question, and that he could boss others around. I’ll tell you a secret, teleskiguy—-I have never taken anything Shaun King has said seriously, and as far as I’m concerned, he’s a leader in his own mind. One thing my parents drilled into my head that has stuck with me for over 60 years are the words, “Think for yourself.” I’m kind of immune to shysters and authoritarians. Hell, I’m downright allergic to authoritarians. Someone who tries to make my decisions for me makes my skin tingle, and that’s a sign I’m about to go off on them, so I avoid people like that. I always figure that since they don’t pay my bills, they don’t have the right to boss me around, and what good is my brain if I’m going to permit someone else to do my thinking for me? So many permitted Shaun King to rile them up when they shouldn’t have. Now they’re looking like the tools they are because Shaun is currently engaged in walking back some of the sh*t he said.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 12:03:09am

re: #157 majii

I’ve found a channel that shows old episodes of “I Love Lucy” late at night. I used to watch the show when I was a kid, but I never realized what comedic geniuses Arnaz and Ball were. They were really talented actors.

I was told that many venues had to change their events from Tuesday nights, because “I Love Lucy” was on then…

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Nyet  Jul 27, 2016 • 12:06:29am

With Shaun there’s more than his now permanent lack of credibility. Read what Deray and Netta wrote about him.

Still, every vote helps.

BTW, did I mention that McAuliffe should crawl back under his rock?

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 27, 2016 • 12:11:20am

re: #145 whitebeach

I remember a pinball game from back in DOS 6.5/Windows 3.1 era. I used to enjoy it. I bet they could make a pretty spiffy one for an iPhone or Android with motion detection and applying it to the pinball tilt feature.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 12:59:55am

re: #159 majii

If you haven’t heard this I think you’ll like it.

15 Tool- Third Eye (W/ Lyrics)

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 1:03:29am

Okay, I LOLed:
penny-arcade.com

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Alyosha  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:10:41am

Listening to news radio on the way to work this morning and they played a clip of Sanders moving to vote for Clinton by acclamation. Gave me goosebumps when the roar went up, the ‘ayes’ had it and the rolling cheering forced a lump into my throat.

What a great day! After dinner I’ll be listening to speeches. Truly grateful that there is a party that stands for sanity and progress in the US. I know it’s a bit of theatre, but it’s moving stuff.

Beats seven colours of shit out of that fear and madness carnival that rolled into Cleveland last week.

Go Hil!!!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:19:09am

re: #165 Alyosha

Listening to news radio on the way to work this morning and they played a clip of Sanders moving to vote for Clinton by acclamation. Gave me goosebumps when the roar went up, the ‘ayes’ had it and the rolling cheering forced a lump into my throat.

What a great day! After dinner I’ll be listening to speeches. Truly grateful that there is a party that stands for sanity and progress in the US. I know it’s a bit of theatre, but it’s moving stuff.

Beats seven colours of shit out of that fear and madness carnival that rolled into Cleveland last week.

Go Hil!!!

If you scan Freep, you will see that Bernie immediately left the venue. He led hundreds, actually 1800, devoted followers to an anti-HRC rally outside. Shots of an empty auditorium prove it and the total lack of major media coverage shows how deeply compromised they are. Links from Breitbart and other trustworthy sites back this up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:21:43am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

If you scan Freep, you will see that Bernie immediately left the venue. He led hundreds, actually 1800, devoted followers to an anti-HRC rally outside. Shots of an empty auditorium prove it and the total lack of major media coverage shows how deeply compromised they are. Links from Breitbart and other trustworthy sites back this up.

So there are 1800 people who do not want to vote for Hillary. How many are true BS supporters and how many are just GOP ratfuckers going out of their way to look the DNC look bad?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:23:39am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So there are 1800 people who do not want to vote for Hillary. How many are true BS supporters and how many are just GOP ratfuckers going out of their way to look the DNC look bad?

(That only happened in the Freeper universe. It is fascinating that the collective insanity of a blog can be greater than the sum of the delusions of its commenters.)

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:27:56am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

After slicing my lip last night, I really don’t need laugh out loud humor like this… :)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:28:36am

re: #169 William Lewis

After slicing my lip last night, I really don’t need laugh out loud humor like this… :)

Walk it off.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:30:54am

re: #170 Decatur Deb

Walk it off.

Nah, gotta talk it off… ///

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Alyosha  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:35:24am

re: #171 William Lewis

Nah, gotta talk it off… ///

I understand this fan knew how to box. How was its technique? ;P

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:38:11am

Another perspective:

Spokesperson For Pro-Sanders Walkout Group Compares Protest To March On Washington

They chanted “Walk out!” — and then their chants shifted to include “This is what democracy looks like!” and later “Black live matter!” Dozens of protesters gathered inside and around media tents populated by reporters. (The tents are located just outside the convention center.)

buzzfeed.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:44:27am

Cruelty of Youth:

Susan Eacker, an Ohio delegate for Mr. Sanders, said she didn’t know about the walkout until just before it took place.

“Tell Bernie we said sorry we rained on his parade, but he taught us too well,” she said. “If he was younger, he’d be doing the same thing.”

nytimes.com

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 2:49:37am

re: #172 Alyosha

I understand this fan knew how to box. How was its technique? ;P

A strong left that got past my guard O_o

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Alyosha  Jul 27, 2016 • 3:10:29am

re: #175 William Lewis

A strong left that got past my guard O_o

On a less sarky note, get well soon.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 3:14:24am

re: #176 Alyosha

On a less sarky note, get well soon.

Thank you.

It does makes me glad I don’t have an air conditioner…

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 3:16:00am

re: #174 Decatur Deb

Cruelty of Youth:

Susan Eacker, an Ohio delegate for Mr. Sanders, said she didn’t know about the walkout until just before it took place.

“Tell Bernie we said sorry we rained on his parade, but he taught us too well,” she said. “If he was younger, he’d be doing the same thing.”

nytimes.com

Youthful naivete is no excuse for Ms. Eacker, she’s 65 years old.
cincinnati.com

(I was about to make a comment about spoiled-ass millennials and thought to check her age before posting.)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 3:40:41am

re: #178 Timothy Watson

History teacher. Sad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 4:02:35am

The GOP knows that there is very little they can do to make Trump look good to anyone who is not already a supporter.

Their only hope is to tear down Hillary, de-legitimize her campaign and to play up any actual or fictional examples of fraud, rigging or manipulation to make it look like she “stole” the nomination/election. And then commence with impeachment hearings as soon as she takes office.

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 4:04:06am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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I’ve gotten grief in the past for referring to Ann “purify the Jews” Coulter as “Titler.” Anyone objecting now?

Glad i have some semblance of self-control. The temptation to reply via Twitter and invoke Hebrew taunts alluding to the Mossad taking out Nazis is far too tempting…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 4:13:30am

re: #181 Archangelus

I’ve gotten grief in the past for referring to Ann “purify the Jews” Coulter as “Titler.” Anyone objecting now?

Glad i have some semblance of self-control. The temptation to reply via Twitter and invoke Hebrew taunts alluding to the Mossad taking out Nazis is far too tempting…

She wants to “perfect” the Jews by bringing them to Jesus. Funny, because Islam also looks on Christians as “imperfect” and in need of being brought to The Prophet.

So basically, she is just helping them by performing the first stage of perfection.

I am sure that she is smart enough to know what she is peddling, but she knows that it has a lucrative and welcoming audience.

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 4:35:15am

Learned today that the name Baron/Barron has the Hebraic meaning of “my dad is exalted” on account of originating from בן אהרון - son of Aaron.

No wonder Trump is apparently obsessed with his son’s name…

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2016 • 4:42:05am
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Alyosha  Jul 27, 2016 • 4:44:20am
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Sherlock Hound  Jul 27, 2016 • 4:56:11am

re: #145 whitebeach

I love retro games.

There’s a modern pinball emulator on Steam whose name I can’t remember. The game engine is free (including one generic table) but they sell classic Williams tables, in bundles, or individually for a few bucks each.

You might find the tables you played at UGA!

I bought the Williams Star Trek TNG table, and it’s hella-fun!

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 4:57:33am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:00:59am

re: #187 MsJ

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“Do Better” is not a very high bar given their usual action of doing absolutely nothing.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:12:41am

re: #188 Timothy Watson

“Do Better” is not a very high bar given their usual action of doing absolutely nothing.

Hey, that’s not true. Out of 310 million users, they did ban Rage Furby and Milo.

//

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:16:15am

re: #11 CuriousLurker

I can’t stay tonight, but I wanted to drop this off before going to bed so ya’ll can relax and not worry about the election. Bet you didn’t know there are licensed psychics:

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G’nite, Lizards. ;-)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:18:31am

re: #190 Eventual Carrion

I AM A LICENSED PSYCHIC AND I FOUND OUT THAT TRUMP WILL WIN!

we had that earlier. I assume that if Hillary wins, madame loses her license…

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:20:14am

VP Biden is killing it on Morning Joe right now. I’m going to miss him.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:25:00am

re: #185 Alyosha

The Bernie or Bust people I know are not young. Most are retired or near retirement. I got a huge lecture from one of them yesterday: Hillary is corrupt. The primaries were rigged, he was robbed of his rightful nomination. The DNC needs to be cleaned out. I can’t believe you’re OK with cheating and whatever it takes to beat Trump. You’re no better than he is, I am so disappointed in you, you’re not a REAL LIBERAL….. She’s a warmonger(LIbya! Syria!), an opportunist, she takes money from Big Finance and Big Pharma, garbleflargernflurgenforgan.

I mean Jesus Christ dude, you’re 70 fucking years old. You’ve held a union job until retirement, and you never had a fucking problem with Hillary as a senator or SoS. Gee, I wonder what the REAL problem is….these fucking people. I expect this crap from idealistic young people who weren’t taught history, but not from 70 yr old blue collar liberals. It’s fucking embarassing.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:28:41am

re: #187 MsJ

And to think all it took was for a bunch of neanderthal, white nationalist thugs picking on an up and coming black actress/comedian for them to say “hmmm, maybe there’s a problem here”…Meanwhile women have been stalked and harassed and doxxed via twitter and have went public and not a word of response or change of how they deal with this shit. And of course it’s not “just” women, but for those of us who have been online since there was an internet, this shit isn’t new.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:29:15am

re: #193 A Mom Anon

A lot of the ones I know are still angry over McGovern losing. So tired of white male boomers and their privilege issues.

Ironically, the red diaper babies I know (several in the Madison area :D ) are all Hillary supporters. They may have voted for him in the primary but like me they knew he’d lose to her and she’ll be a fine president.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:31:12am

re: #194 A Mom Anon

Famous people leaving, publically, could cause less eyes to see ads which equals lower revenue. That is the ONLY thing that makes Twitter care. That’s the only reason Milo or Rage Furby got the boot: threatening the money flow.

I refuse to use it for that reason.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:33:14am

re: #193 A Mom Anon

The Bernie or Bust people I know are not young. Most are retired or near retirement. I got a huge lecture from one of them yesterday: Hillary is corrupt. The primaries were rigged, he was robbed of his rightful nomination. The DNC needs to be cleaned out. I can’t believe you’re OK with cheating and whatever it takes to beat Trump. You’re no better than he is, I am so disappointed in you, you’re not a REAL LIBERAL….. She’s a warmonger(LIbya! Syria!), an opportunist, she takes money from Big Finance and Big Pharma, garbleflargernflurgenforgan.

I mean Jesus Christ dude, you’re 70 fucking years old. You’ve held a union job until retirement, and you never had a fucking problem with Hillary as a senator or SoS. Gee, I wonder what the REAL problem is….these fucking people. I expect this crap from idealistic young people who weren’t taught history, but not from 70 yr old blue collar liberals. It’s fucking embarassing.

I wish we had a realistic choice between a centrist like HRC and a reformer who could clean out some of our structural problems without wrecking half the world in the process. We don’t.

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Alyosha  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:34:19am

Just watched Bill Clinton’s speech. Say what you want about the man. His oratory is impeccable.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:34:43am

re: #195 William Lewis

I don’t know what these assholes think is going to happen if their stupid Unicorn Revolution comes. I asked them to tell me what Bernie has accomplished in the Senate and to tell me who he’s supported in downticket races (besides a couple of berniebots). Crickets. They see themselves. And old white dude clinging to ideas that might be awesome, but with no plans to really see them through because it can’t happen in the rest of their lifetimes. They have no excuse for not understanding incremental politics and policy. I’m a generation younger and I get it. Do I like how slow things can go? Nope. But I never got a pony when I was 10, hell I never owned a car of my own until I was in my 40s. That’s what being poor and working class is in this country.

I’m seriously about done with most human beings right now.

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Jay C  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:36:59am

re: #198 Alyosha

Just watched Bill Clinton’s speech. Say what you want about the man. His oratory is impeccable.

True this. Long as it was, Bill’s Convention speech was, for him, a masterpiece of well-directed rhetoric. And (IMO), effective and moving.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:38:05am

re: #192 Dr. Matt

VP Biden is killing it on Morning Joe right now. I’m going to miss him.

He’s completely enthralling. His knowledge shows the vast difference between the know nothing republican running.

It was sad to hear that our elected officials no longer communicate as people, get to know each other personally. That really does make it easier to demonize.

This is a revealing interview. Exceptional.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:38:49am

re: #193 A Mom Anon

The Bernie or Bust people I know are not young. Most are retired or near retirement. I got a huge lecture from one of them yesterday: Hillary is corrupt. The primaries were rigged, he was robbed of his rightful nomination. The DNC needs to be cleaned out. I can’t believe you’re OK with cheating and whatever it takes to beat Trump. You’re no better than he is, I am so disappointed in you, you’re not a REAL LIBERAL….. She’s a warmonger(LIbya! Syria!), an opportunist, she takes money from Big Finance and Big Pharma, garbleflargernflurgenforgan.

I mean Jesus Christ dude, you’re 70 fucking years old. You’ve held a union job until retirement, and you never had a fucking problem with Hillary as a senator or SoS. Gee, I wonder what the REAL problem is….these fucking people. I expect this crap from idealistic young people who weren’t taught history, but not from 70 yr old blue collar liberals. It’s fucking embarassing.

And boomers call millennials spoiled.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:39:35am

re: #197 Decatur Deb

Exactly. I tried explaining that. Hillary may have her flaws (but lets face it, most of those “flaws” are bullshit manufactured crap that’s been recirculated for decades now) but she’s not going to dismantle the country and she actually could pass a civics and history exam. Trump can’t find his spray tanner without assistance. I clicked off a whole list of shit the GOP is trying to destroy and even that wasn’t enough. I quit after the lecture about how I’m not pure enough to call myself a real liberal and an American who loves her country. And more whining about Bernie being cheated out of the nomination. Fuck that guy. And his friends, and the horses they rode in on, and their little dogs too.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:40:40am

re: #194 A Mom Anon

And to think all it took was for a bunch of neanderthal, white nationalist thugs picking on an up and coming black actress/comedian for them to say “hmmm, maybe there’s a problem here”…Meanwhile women have been stalked and harassed and doxxed via twitter and have went public and not a word of response or change of how they deal with this shit. And of course it’s not “just” women, but for those of us who have been online since there was an internet, this shit isn’t new.

I know. The average person holds no sway. We have no protection. I love Twitter for the immediate information share but if I was subjected relentlessly as many are, I’d have left too.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:42:39am

re: #197 Decatur Deb

I wish we had a realistic choice between a centrist like HRC and a reformer who could clean out some of our structural problems without wrecking half the world in the process. We don’t.

It’s not like it would matter. Not when you have republicans blocking everything. The POTUS is only one person. It takes a DC village to get shit done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:42:42am

re: #203 A Mom Anon

I will no longer discuss politics with a Trump supporter because these people have a view of politics and politicians that has little to do with our system of government.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:45:43am

Bloomberg is speaking tonight. Nice. He should be able to ding trump some.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:47:00am

re: #207 MsJ

Bloomberg is speaking tonight. Nice. He should be able to ding trump some.

Meh, he’s just Trump with a better tailor and different talking points.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:49:27am

re: #205 MsJ

Yes! And these same people bitching have done NOTHING to work for downticket candidates. It’s been all Bernie All the Time and not a word about anyone else. We need a Congress that will work with the President to get stuff done. The executive branch isn’t all powerful, democrats should know better than that. Especially after the shit thrown at Obama since he took office. We also need state and local people holding office to keep the states from going backwards individually. I’m sorry, but wearing a Hillary for Prison t-shirt and marching around with some non viable “worker’s party” people (who aren’t a party, they’re a club) at protests doesn’t do shit except make liberals look like a laughingstock.

The far left is can often be more stubborn and unwilling to work with anyone than the far right, and that is saying something. They get in their own way and then can’t understand why none of the things they’re passionate about get addressed.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:50:01am

re: #185 Alyosha

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Reminding us yet again that what makes or breaks “Weekend Update” is the writers more than the anchors.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:50:12am

re: #208 William Lewis

Meh, he’s just Trump with a better tailor and different talking points.

I’m not saying I like him, I’m saying he’s a good person to speak against trump.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:51:03am

OK, off to the vet with Miss Dog this morning. BBL.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:53:47am

Time to go sleep off the lip pain for me.

Later folks.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:54:11am
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:54:12am

re: #209 A Mom Anon

Yes! And these same people bitching have done NOTHING to work for downticket candidates. It’s been all Bernie All the Time and not a word about anyone else. We need a Congress that will work with the President to get stuff done. The executive branch isn’t all powerful, democrats should know better than that. Especially after the shit thrown at Obama since he took office. We also need state and local people holding office to keep the states from going backwards individually. I’m sorry, but wearing a Hillary for Prison t-shirt and marching around with some non viable “worker’s party” people (who aren’t a party, they’re a club) at protests doesn’t do shit except make liberals look like a laughingstock.

The far left is can often be more stubborn and unwilling to work with anyone than the far right, and that is saying something. They get in their own way and then can’t understand why none of the things they’re passionate about get addressed.

They are our tea party. I got numerous emails from Jane Hamsher saying KILL OBAMACARE before it was passed because it didn’t give them their pony. Incrementalism is a foreign concept.

I don’t know whatever happened to her but there were times I felt she was an agent provocateur for the other side.

Just as some of these BorB’ers are today.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:54:44am

re: #213 William Lewis

Time to go sleep off the lip pain for me.

Later folks.

Feel better!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:57:07am

re: #200 Jay C

True this. Long as it was, Bill’s Convention speech was, for him, a masterpiece of well-directed rhetoric. And (IMO), effective and moving.

This was right up there with one of his best. I was concerned at first with his somewhat fried voice and slight tremble detectable in his right hand, but I forgot about those things within a minute. His voice recovered. He really laid out a case for some of the most important things that democrats care for while making such a strong case for Hillary as a genuine champion and leader on those issues since her late teens, early twenties.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:57:59am

re: #217 Barefoot Grin

This was right up there with one of his best. I was concerned at first with his somewhat fried voice and slight tremble detectable in his right hand, but I forgot about those things within a minute. His voice recovered. He really laid out a case for some of the most important things that democrats care for while making such a strong case for Hillary as a genuine champion and leader on those issues since her late teens, early twenties.

You mean back when she was a GOLDWATER REPUBLICAN?!?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2016 • 5:58:59am
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Mattand  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:00:36am

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

Oddly enough, Chuck Todd seemed quite taken by it.

Rachel Maddow was probably jangling some car keys in the direction of the podium.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:00:57am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

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He doesn’t like his empty suit being shown.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:06:43am

re: #214 Dr. Matt

47 years ago I submitted my travel voucher reimbursement for my trip to the moon.

He got .10/mile for the Privately Owned Vehicle leg of the trip. If he’d used POV all the way he’d have made out like a bandit.

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Mattand  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:07:35am

re: #193 A Mom Anon

The Bernie or Bust people I know are not young. Most are retired or near retirement. I got a huge lecture from one of them yesterday: Hillary is corrupt. The primaries were rigged, he was robbed of his rightful nomination. The DNC needs to be cleaned out. I can’t believe you’re OK with cheating and whatever it takes to beat Trump. You’re no better than he is, I am so disappointed in you, you’re not a REAL LIBERAL….. She’s a warmonger(LIbya! Syria!), an opportunist, she takes money from Big Finance and Big Pharma, garbleflargernflurgenforgan.

I mean Jesus Christ dude, you’re 70 fucking years old. You’ve held a union job until retirement, and you never had a fucking problem with Hillary as a senator or SoS. Gee, I wonder what the REAL problem is….these fucking people. I expect this crap from idealistic young people who weren’t taught history, but not from 70 yr old blue collar liberals. It’s fucking embarassing.

I just completed a major Facebook blowout with a BoB guy who is someone I’ve known for 25 years. Started with me calling him out for making an ignorant sexist “joke” about Bill Clinton and Wasserman-Schultz; ended with me being asked if I would be just as upset if RNC emails were leaked (yes, you read that right.)

He’s been through some rough patches and I really empathize, but I’m getting the feeling that he’s going to sit this one out. He’s really, really gone around the bend with “Hillary equals Trump”. No matter what kind of evidence you put in front of him about what a potential, global crisis-inducing monster Trump is, he just goes “Nope. She’s as bad.”

I’m really starting to lose my shit with the whole Hillary-as-Lex Luthor mindset. I’ve got the same problem you do. Most of the people I deal with are middle-age, and their ability to parse the political realities of this election is frighteningly childish.

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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:12:46am

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Good morning!

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:13:38am

Morning!

Heard a little earlier that Clinton and Kaine are going out on a bus tour right after the convention. They’re heading west through Harrisburg and Pittsburg PA and then to Youngstown and then to here in Columbus OH.

It’s starting…and it appears the first attack in the battleground states is being launched.

I hope I have time to get to it and maybe take some photos. It hasn’t been announced where they will be here. It sounds like they are starting small so it could be anywhere.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:14:50am

Shutting down to load Ubuntu 16. Hope it’s more tolerant of Flash.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:16:53am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

He doesn’t like his empty suit being shown.

At some point someone in the media really needs to just call him out on his ridiculous behavior. But, that will never happen today with the gutless pundits that fill the airwaves.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:18:47am

re: #208 William Lewis

Meh, he’s just Trump with a better tailor and different talking points.

I hope you just forgot your sarc tags, because OMG!!

On any measure of intelligence, character, business acumen, understanding of government, demonstrable accomplishments, or ANY OTHER TOPIC WHATSOEVER, he’s entire orders of magnitude superior to Trump.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:19:39am

Greets and saluts from the sunny and warm NYC metro area. Last night’s speeches are still resonating with the right wing loons who think that the Clinton marital infidelity is somehow disqualifying all while Trump had three wives, and cheated on the second with the third while still married.

The GOP double standards don’t stop there. As bad as that nonsense is, the right wing has completely lost all sense of reality when you’ve got whitesplainin’ Bill O’Reilly claiming that the slaves who built the White House didn’t have it so bad.

Yeah, they were slaves.

slave
slāv/Submit
nounhistorical
1.
a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.
synonyms: historicalserf, vassal, thrall; More

These are the same asshats who claim that paying taxes is akin to slavery.

This is the toxic stew that Fox News has dumped on the American public. Ignorant, racist, opinionists whose fact free diatribes indoctrinate listeners into feeling insecure, fearful, and that Democrats are out to get them.

It’s the same kind of revisionist BS that Sergey and others fight when dealing with Holocaust revisionism and expropriation Holocaust terminology so that the words lose their very meaning.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:20:02am

re: #224 jeffreyw

Duuuuuude. That is so unfair. I didn’t even realize I was hungry. Now, my keyboard is about to short out from the drool. SLURP! Dayum!

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:20:08am

re: #224 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

MMMM… the cornerstone of a nutritious breakfast. No wonder I’m getting hungry again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:21:39am

I left my laptop running with the Windows 10 update overnight. This morning I was greeted by a great big WELCOME TO WINDOWS 10 screen and a creature named “Cortana” has taken up residence inside my laptop.

Kind of creepy. Also disabled all of the Lenovo apps (which I never used anyway).

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:21:50am

re: #195 William Lewis

A lot of the ones I know are still angry over McGovern losing. So tired of white male boomers and their privilege issues.

Ironically, the red diaper babies I know (several in the Madison area :D ) are all Hillary supporters. They may have voted for him in the primary but like me they knew he’d lose to her and she’ll be a fine president.

Hey! I am a white male boomer (non-privileged) and I can’t even remember all that McGovern BS.

Plus, that was my first election and as I have revealed before…I freakin’ voted for Tricky Dicky.

Hmmm. Now maybe that is exactly why I don’t remember. Trauma wiped it all clean.

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:24:22am

Sad day in my neighborhood yesterday:

My daughter went to that day camp for two years but decided not to go this year. She is beside herself.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:24:43am

John Hinckley Jr is to be freed from prison. Wow.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:24:45am

Prepare to engage RAGE Generator…
Please remember to ignore that Hinckley has enjoyed increasing levels of supervised/unsupervised releases since 1999…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:26:14am

re: #235 Dr. Matt

John Hinckley Jr is to be freed from prison. Wow.

Hinckley has not been in prison.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:26:21am

re: #229 lawhawk

The GOP double standards don’t stop there. As bad as that nonsense is, the right wing has completely lost all sense of reality when you’ve got whitesplainin’ Bill O’Reilly claiming that the slaves who built the White House didn’t have it so bad.

.

We would rather DIE than live as slaves!!!

Well, at least those slaves were well fed…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:27:29am

re: #236 FormerDirtDart

Prepare to engage RAGE Generator…
Please remember to ignore that Hinckley has enjoyed increasing levels of supervised/unsupervised releases since 1999…

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Now he can finally call up Jodie Foster for a date…

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:28:20am

re: #233 ObserverArt

Hey! I am a white male boomer (non-privileged) and I can’t even remember all that McGovern BS.

Plus, that was my first election and as I have revealed before…I freakin’ voted for Tricky Dicky.

Hmmm. Now maybe that is exactly why I don’t remember. Trauma wiped it all clean.

My dad loved Nixon so, so much. When the tapes were released and so many accusations proved true, he cried. Hadn’t wanted to believe it. Wailing “Say it ain’t so, Dick, say it ain’t so!!” (That’s also when he told me the story about the Chicago Black Sox).

In spite of his crimes (and the southern strategy), I still have a soft spot for Nixon because I’m so incredibly grateful for the EPA, OSHA, Title IX, Title X, and saving Israel in 1973.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:28:32am

re: #225 ObserverArt

Morning!

Heard a little earlier that Clinton and Kaine are going out on a bus tour right after the convention. They’re heading west through Harrisburg and Pittsburg PA and then to Youngstown and then to here in Columbus OH.

It’s starting…and it appears the first attack in the battleground states is being launched.

I hope I have time to get to it and maybe take some photos. It hasn’t been announced where they will be here. It sounds like they are starting small so it could be anywhere.

And Kaine’s wife, Anne Holton, has resigned as Virginia’s Secretary of Education to go out stumping. I expect both of them to be pretty good on the stump.

And imagine how many stops the Clintons and the Kaines are going to be making versus low-energy Donald who has to fly home every night to stay in his mansion.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:30:03am

re: #236 FormerDirtDart

Prepare to engage RAGE Generator…
Please remember to ignore that Hinckley has enjoyed increasing levels of supervised/unsupervised releases since 1999…

[Embedded content]

It tears at the wingnut soul: He shot Saint Ronnie! Should have executed him! But he’s free now, so 2A rights!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:31:24am

re: #225 ObserverArt

Morning!

Heard a little earlier that Clinton and Kaine are going out on a bus tour right after the convention. They’re heading west through Harrisburg and Pittsburg PA and then to Youngstown and then to here in Columbus OH.

It’s starting…and it appears the first attack in the battleground states is being launched.

I hope I have time to get to it and maybe take some photos. It hasn’t been announced where they will be here. It sounds like they are starting small so it could be anywhere.

I wonder if Trump and Pence will do a bus tour?

Rhetorical question.

Does Trump do bus tours? I imagine not.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:31:28am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

I left my laptop running with the Windows 10 update overnight. This morning I was greeted by a great big WELCOME TO WINDOWS 10 screen and a creature named “Cortana” has taken up residence inside my laptop.

Kind of creepy. Also disabled all of the Lenovo apps (which I never used anyway).

Congrats! That’s exactly what I did. I almost gave up and decided to just let it go overnight and was thrilled to wake up to the same message. A big WHEW on my part.

I disabled Cortana, too, along with all the other BS they installed.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:32:16am

Yeah, Hinckley is being released into supervision of his mother. GOP will go nuts, ignoring that Hinckley was mentally ill and still managed to get a gun that nearly killed the president. The GOP and NRA refuse to take actions that might reduce similar instances. How many mentally ill people could be stopped from getting guns to commit suicide (~20k a year) or kill others? That’s a lot of carnage that could be reduced, along with the criminal justice, law enforcement, and health care costs from all those shootings each year.

If the attempted assassination of a Republican president couldn’t get gun control on the table and enacted in a serious way, why does anyone think that killing a bunch of toddlers as in Sandy Hook would do it? The GOP built that, particularly with NRA dollars.

The NRA is perfectly fine with the carnage and costs of easy access to a wide array of firearms that serve no purpose except to kill - I’m not talking about self-defense stuff, but weapons that can’t/shouldn’t be used in home defense. And the NRA is fine with letting anyone have access to guns, even if they’re mentally ill.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:34:00am

re: #229 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the sunny and warm NYC metro area. Last night’s speeches are still resonating with the right wing loons who think that the Clinton marital infidelity is somehow disqualifying all while Trump had three wives, and cheated on the second with the third while still married.

The GOP double standards don’t stop there. As bad as that nonsense is, the right wing has completely lost all sense of reality when you’ve got whitesplainin’ Bill O’Reilly claiming that the slaves who built the White House didn’t have it so bad.

Yeah, they were slaves.

These are the same asshats who claim that paying taxes is akin to slavery.

This is the toxic stew that Fox News has dumped on the American public. Ignorant, racist, opinionists whose fact free diatribes indoctrinate listeners into feeling insecure, fearful, and that Democrats are out to get them.

It’s the same kind of revisionist BS that Sergey and others fight when dealing with Holocaust revisionism and expropriation Holocaust terminology so that the words lose their very meaning.

Pretty impressed with most of last night’s speeches. Thought Bill Clinton’s was amazing.

So I was shocked to discover on Twitter that Rachel Maddow of “liberal” MSNBC was shredding it. I don’t know. Maddow must be on crack.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:34:39am

re: #225 ObserverArt

Morning!

Heard a little earlier that Clinton and Kaine are going out on a bus tour right after the convention. They’re heading west through Harrisburg and Pittsburg PA and then to Youngstown and then to here in Columbus OH.

It’s starting…and it appears the first attack in the battleground states is being launched.

I hope I have time to get to it and maybe take some photos. It hasn’t been announced where they will be here. It sounds like they are starting small so it could be anywhere.

I remember the 92 Clinton-Gore bus tour. It was incredibly energizing.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:35:06am

re: #243 Sir John Barron

I wonder if Trump and Pence will do a bus tour?

Rhetorical question.

Does Trump do bus tours? I imagine not.

Has Trump ever been on a bus? Ever, in his entire life?

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:35:10am

re: #245 lawhawk

Loon wolf.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:35:45am

re: #245 lawhawk

Yeah, Hinckley is being released into supervision of his mother. GOP will go nuts, ignoring that Hinckley was mentally ill and still managed to get a gun that nearly killed the president.

Well, will he be allowed to buy a gun, or will he be denied his 2nd Amendment rights?

Heck, he can always just but one illegally, that’s why gun control doesn’t work.

/

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:36:31am

re: #245 lawhawk

Not to mention, that Hinckley was found “Not Guilty” by reason of insanity.
So, technically he never committed a crime…
Chew on that Monk’s of the House of Reagan

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:37:16am

Amazing new trend from the usual suspects: Equate the moonbat assault on the fence around the DNC media enclosure with the Berlin Wall and the collapse of communism.

So, just whom is the DNC imprisoning with this wall? How many people have been shot trying to escape?

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:37:24am

re: #245 lawhawk

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GOP will go nuts, ignoring that Hinckley was mentally ill and still managed to get a gun that nearly killed the president. The GOP and NRA refuse to take actions that might reduce similar instances.

Gee. If only there’d been some good guys with guns on the scene. That would’ve prevented it.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:37:25am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:37:36am

re: #243 Sir John Barron

I wonder if Trump and Pence will do a bus tour?

Rhetorical question.

Does Trump do bus tours? I imagine not.

“Now go get on the bus, Mike. I’ll meet you there.”

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:38:02am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:38:10am

re: #252 Shiplord Kirel

Amazing new trend from the usual suspects: Equate the moonbat assault on the fence around the DNC media enclosure with the Berlin Wall and the collapse of communism.

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So, just whom is the DNC imprisoning with this wall? How many people have been shot trying to escape?

sick of the Bernie bros.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:39:20am

re: #256 MsJ

And our “liberal” media will be fine with this.

Trump with his five kids from three wives, each wife younger than the prior one. Media uninterested in this, wants to ask Bill about his infidelities.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:44:09am

re: #193 A Mom Anon

The Bernie or Bust people I know are not young. Most are retired or near retirement. I got a huge lecture from one of them yesterday: Hillary is corrupt. The primaries were rigged, he was robbed of his rightful nomination. The DNC needs to be cleaned out. I can’t believe you’re OK with cheating and whatever it takes to beat Trump. You’re no better than he is, I am so disappointed in you, you’re not a REAL LIBERAL….. She’s a warmonger(LIbya! Syria!), an opportunist, she takes money from Big Finance and Big Pharma, garbleflargernflurgenforgan.

I mean Jesus Christ dude, you’re 70 fucking years old. You’ve held a union job until retirement, and you never had a fucking problem with Hillary as a senator or SoS. Gee, I wonder what the REAL problem is….these fucking people. I expect this crap from idealistic young people who weren’t taught history, but not from 70 yr old blue collar liberals. It’s fucking embarassing.

That’s been my experience to a T, the more ardent Bros are generally Boomers who’ve been nursing a grudge since Mondale, if not McGovern, who in some way blame the Clintons for the DNC breaking publicly from the far-left and consigning them to the kiddie table of the party. They’ve been angry with the party ever since the leadership took steps to change the nomination rules to prevent a repeat of ‘84. It’s what motivates so many accusations of the system being “rigged,” because the very vocal minority no longer dominates the nomination process like it used to. And like the TPers, they can’t accept that their white privilege is being undone by the party’s rising reliance upon minority votes for future elections. It’s what inspires so much anger among Bros towards “stupid” blacks and Latinos, that they’re not voting the way the old white vote wants them to.

So many factors go into what motivates a brogressive, but the end result is somebody who is every bit as out of touch with objective reality as a TPer. The only bright spot is that, like their regressive counterparts, they’re going the way of the dinosaurs.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:44:42am

If you didn’t get a chance to watch Joe on Joe, it is worth the time.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:44:42am

re: #257 Sir John Barron

sick of the Bernie bros.

re: #252 Shiplord Kirel

Amazing new trend from the usual suspects: Equate the moonbat assault on the fence around the DNC media enclosure with the Berlin Wall and the collapse of communism.

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So, just whom is the DNC imprisoning with this wall? How many people have been shot trying to escape?

I’m so sick of moonbat bs. Because you know if they ever had a convention, they’d be totally cool with disruption by people who want to enter only to heckle candidates and just be all around dicks.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:45:29am

re: #254 lawhawk

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The guy who natters constantly about his opponent being “corrupt” will not follow her lead and release even a year’s worth of tax returns.

Christ, even Romney made the effort to bullshit us into thinking he was living like a pauper.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:45:41am

re: #258 Sir John Barron

And our “liberal” media will be fine with this.

Trump with his five kids from three wives, each wife younger than the prior one. Media uninterested in this, wants to ask Bill about his infidelities.

He says it’s because that meddlesome IRS is auditing him. And no further questions will be asked.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:46:31am

Donald Trump is doing an AMA for his alt-right reddit fans. That should be a real shitshow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:46:37am

re: #262 Targetpractice

The guy who natters constantly about his opponent being “corrupt” will not follow her lead and release even a year’s worth of tax returns.

Christ, even Romney made the effort to bullshit us into thinking he was living like a pauper.

That is the problem: we will find out how little he is worth (financially) and about his connections to Russian capital.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:50:54am

re: #265 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the problem: we will find out how little he is worth (financially) and about his connections to Russian capital.

Bingo.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:51:26am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:51:54am

re: #259 Targetpractice

That’s been my experience to a T, the more ardent Bros are generally Boomers who’ve been nursing a grudge since Mondale, if not McGovern, who in some way blame the Clintons for the DNC breaking publicly from the far-left and consigning them to the kiddie table of the party. They’ve been angry with the party ever since the leadership took steps to change the nomination rules to prevent a repeat of ‘84. It’s what motivates so many accusations of the system being “rigged,” because the very vocal minority no longer dominates the nomination process like it used to. And like the TPers, they can’t accept that their white privilege is being undone by the party’s rising reliance upon minority votes for future elections. It’s what inspires so much anger among Bros towards “stupid” blacks and Latinos, that they’re not voting the way the old white vote wants them to.

So many factors go into what motivates a brogressive, but the end result is somebody who is every bit as out of touch with objective reality as a TPer. The only bright spot is that, like their regressive counterparts, they’re going the way of the dinosaurs.

It’s been mine too. a lot of them want moderates purged from any party positions of leadership. I pointed out in defending Kaine the other day that these people who decry him for being too moderate need to look at that this state had elected George Allen to the Senate just a few years before. Ill say it again, they live in ideological echo chambers which is why they get so angry when Clinton wins in their states. No one they know liked Clinton so how could she win!

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:52:27am

I cannot for a second imagine any scenario where the roles were reversed, Trump being totally open with his tax returns while Clinton guarded hers jealously except when the IRS audited her every year and the media just going along with her assertions that there’s absolutely nothing untoward in those returns which is why she won’t be sharing them with the press.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:53:41am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

I left my laptop running with the Windows 10 update overnight. This morning I was greeted by a great big WELCOME TO WINDOWS 10 screen and a creature named “Cortana” has taken up residence inside my laptop.

Kind of creepy. Also disabled all of the Lenovo apps (which I never used anyway).

Turn Cortana off: pcworld.com.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:54:38am

re: #268 HappyWarrior

It’s been mine too. a lot of them want moderates purged from any party positions of leadership. I pointed out in defending Kaine the other day that these people who decry him for being too moderate need to look at that this state had elected George Allen to the Senate just a few years before. Ill say it again, they live in ideological echo chambers which is why they get so angry when Clinton wins in their states. No one they know liked Clinton so how could she win!

The same people that hate blue dogs, want to run progressives in Nebraska, Wyoming, etc., and wonder why we lose control of congress. There is no understanding whatsoever of the reality of each state, its constituency and reality in general.

Which I guess dovetails into their love of Bernie and the concept he could get from Point A to Point B just because he said so. Completely detached from reality.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:54:44am

re: #265 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the problem: we will find out how little he is worth (financially) and about his connections to Russian capital.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:55:42am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

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Trump is the President, a member, a trustee, or on the board of 515 different companies and we’re suppose to believe that?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:55:45am

re: #269 Targetpractice

I cannot for a second imagine any scenario where the roles were reversed, Trump being totally open with his tax returns while Clinton guarded hers jealously except when the IRS audited her every year and the media just going along with her assertions that there’s absolutely nothing untoward in those returns which is why she won’t be sharing them with the press.

He’d be taunting her on Twitter and it would be ammo for Berniebusters too. For someone called dishonest, Clinton actually showed more of her tax records than either of the two “anti establishment outsiders.”

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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:57:07am

re: #121 Jenner7

I wonder if CNN or MSNBC ever talked about Trump’s affairs and marriages.

All in all, the media sucked tonight. Their commentary was waaaay off base, even Rachel. Figures. Bill tries to humanize his evil, lying robot of a wife and they piss on it.

I don’t believe they did.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:57:08am

re: #271 MsJ

The same people that hate blue dogs, want to run progressives in Nebraska, Wyoming, etc., and wonder why we lose control of congress. There is no understanding whatsoever of the reality of each state, its constituency and reality in general.

Which I guess dovetails into their love of Bernie and the concept he could get from Point A to Point B just because he said so. Completely detached from reality.

Right they think we should run the most lefty candidate in each state/district without realizing the unique needs of each state and district.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:58:40am

All lives matter? Right?

Freddie Gray was killed by Baltimore cops while in their custody. No one will ever see jail time for that crime. The remaining cops have had the charges dropped against them.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:59:00am

I caught a little of Good Morning America, and the topic of Trumps Russian connections did come up. I think it’s going to take Clinton-Kaine-Clinton-Obama-Biden to keep it in the news, but I think it can be done.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 6:59:09am

re: #277 lawhawk

All lives matter? Right?

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Freddie Gray was killed by Baltimore cops while in their custody. No one will ever see jail time for that crime. The remaining cops have had the charges dropped against them.

Travesty.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:00:02am

The Goldman-Sachs transcripts are a red herring nothingburger. I think about a year or so ago I read an article (at HuffPost? Can’t remember) in which they tried to track down people who attended the event where she spoke. Most of them said “It was a lunch! We were eating and chit chatting with others at our table, didn’t pay attention to the speaker” and finally someone said “I think she talked about more opportunities for women and minorities in the financial industry, and making loans easier.”

As to why she wouldn’t release the transcripts? My guess is maybe she wanted to use verbiage from those talks in a book and was guarding her intellectual property.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:02:34am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

The Goldman-Sachs transcripts are a red herring nothingburger. I think about a year or so ago I read an article (at HuffPost? Can’t remember) in which they tried to track down people who attended the event where she spoke. Most of them said “It was a lunch! We were eating and chit chatting with others at our table, didn’t pay attention to the speaker” and finally someone said “I think she talked about more opportunities for women and minorities in the financial industry, and making loans easier.”

As to why she wouldn’t release the transcripts? My guess is maybe she wanted to use verbiage from those talks in a book and was guarding her intellectual property.

Did you ever see the movie The Contender with Joan Allen? Maybe Clinton didn’t want to release the transcripts because no man has been required to.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:03:34am

re: #281 Belafon

Did you ever see the movie The Contender with Joan Allen? Maybe Clinton didn’t want to release the transcripts because no man has been required to.

I did see that movie. Very underrated.

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:04:05am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

The Goldman-Sachs transcripts are a red herring nothingburger. I think about a year or so ago I read an article (at HuffPost? Can’t remember) in which they tried to track down people who attended the event where she spoke. Most of them said “It was a lunch! We were eating and chit chatting with others at our table, didn’t pay attention to the speaker” and finally someone said “I think she talked about more opportunities for women and minorities in the financial industry, and making loans easier.”

As to why she wouldn’t release the transcripts? My guess is maybe she wanted to use verbiage from those talks in a book and was guarding her intellectual property.

Or she didn’t have the authority to release them as they were Goldman’s IP (depending on how the contract was written).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:06:53am

re: #278 Belafon

I caught a little of Good Morning America, and the topic of Trumps Russian connections did come up. I think it’s going to take Clinton-Kaine-Clinton-Obama-Biden to keep it in the news, but I think it can be done.

I think the media are starting to cop on that Trump is ratings gold regardless of whether they are fawning over him or flaying him alive, and the tendency is moving towards the latter…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:08:44am

re: #282 The Vicious Babushka

I did see that movie. Very underrated.

True dat.

Also features, in the opening scene, a cover of Ring of Fire, performed by Kim Carnes and The Dude, which is just badass, but which of course isn’t on the soundtrack or available in any form I can find.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:09:00am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think the media are starting to cop on that Trump is ratings gold regardless of whether they are fawning over him or flaying him alive, and the tendency is moving towards the latter…

I am hoping and praying that this happens as we move forward. The problem is that it’s going to reinforce the meme that the media is against him, I mean…”Why report it now? Huh? HUH? If this was true you would have reported it months ago! LIBERAL MEDIA!”

The media in the US sucks ass with dingleberries.

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ObserverArt  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:09:44am

re: #208 William Lewis

Meh, he’s just Trump with a better tailor and different talking points.

But if he damages Trump and maybe causes some of the conservatives that follow him to follow him and not vote for Trump and vote for Hillary, what would be wrong with that?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:09:58am

re: #278 Belafon

I caught a little of Good Morning America, and the topic of Trumps Russian connections did come up. I think it’s going to take Clinton-Kaine-Clinton-Obama-Biden to keep it in the news, but I think it can be done.

Yup, keep hammering it. And him not releasing his tax returns.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:11:38am

re: #277 lawhawk

All lives matter? Right?

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Freddie Gray was killed by Baltimore cops while in their custody. No one will ever see jail time for that crime. The remaining cops have had the charges dropped against them.

And this is the reason why the black community has such a low opinion of police, as every time of theirs dies in the custody of a cop, nobody is ever held responsible. It’s an “accident” or a “mistake,” always “regrettable,” but which never results in any visible change in policing. Just a check cut, some noises made about “investigations,” but no change. The dog barks, but the caravan moves on.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:12:41am

re: #289 Targetpractice

And this is the reason why the black community has such a low opinion of police, as every time of theirs dies in the custody of a cop, nobody is ever held responsible. It’s an “accident” or a “mistake,” always “regrettable,” but which never results in any visible change in policing. Just a check cut, some noises made about “investigations,” but no change. The dog barks, but the caravan moves on.

Absolutely.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:14:05am

re: #288 Sir John Barron

Yup, keep hammering it. And him not releasing his tax returns.

Conservatives like John Nolte now think not releasing tax returns is fine.

Principles.
/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:14:42am

re: #289 Targetpractice

And this is the reason why the black community has such a low opinion of police, as every time of theirs dies in the custody of a cop, nobody is ever held responsible. It’s an “accident” or a “mistake,” always “regrettable,” but which never results in any visible change in policing. Just a check cut, some noises made about “investigations,” but no change. The dog barks, but the caravan moves on.

And the police are only part of the problem: public prosecutors need to work with police to obtain indictments and convictions. Working to obtain an indictment/conviction against police officers is going to make their job more difficult: a built-in conflict of interest

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:14:48am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:14:49am

re: #285 Sir John Barron

True dat.

Also features, in the opening scene, a cover of Ring of Fire, performed by Kim Carnes and The Dude, which is just badass, but which of course isn’t on the soundtrack or available in any form I can find.

This:

“Ring Of Fire” - Kim Carnes & Jeff Bridges

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:17:32am

re: #291 Sir John Barron

Conservatives like John Nolte now think not releasing tax returns is fine.

Principles.
/

Of which they have none. Other than GOP flack.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:18:07am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the police are only part of the problem: prosecutors need to work with police to obtain indictments and convictions. Working to obtain and indictment/conviction against police officers is going to make their job more difficult: a built-in conflict of interest

Ayep, the police are responsible for investigating themselves and the prosecutor who relies upon the police for their livelihood responsible for prosecuting them. And a justice system that is totally weighted in favor of cops taking whatever steps to “protect themselves,” even if they provoked the situation in the first place. If you roll up on an “active shooter” and blow him away, it doesn’t matter that you put yourself in that situation, you were just acting in “self defense.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:18:34am

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

This:

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Larger

ask and ye shall receive.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:19:48am

LOLWUT

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:19:49am

re: #156 majii

I was surprised when I finally noticed all of the outrage and disbelief some were expressing today after the FL said that slaves helped build the WH. Raw Story had a post about some RW radio talker who questioned what the FL said. I guess they’d go really bonkers if they knew Benjamin Banneker did the survey work to lay out the streets in D.C, and that he was “blah.” I don’t know where O’Reilly got the idea that slaves were well fed. Food was rationed at the beginning of each week, and if they ate it all before the beginning of the next week, they were SOL. I thought this information was common knowledge, but apparently it’s not for some people. If some of these folks would stop running their mouths so much, they’d have time to study and learn the real history of their own country. Just because their guts tell them something is true does not make it so.

The odd thing to me about the reaction to Michelle’s comment now is that she’s said that line about living in a house built by slaves before. She said it in her commencement speeche at City College. Apparently no one was listening to her then (21:50). It was a great speech.

Michelle Obama trashes Trump FULL Commencement Speech At CCNY Graduation June 3 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:22:14am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

Trump surrogate Scottie Hughes enraged Hillary didn’t say white boys can be president too

How else are they supposed to know that it is possible? Any while male under age ten has known nothing but a black President, and now a female nominee…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:22:18am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

wingnuts be crazy

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:22:24am

re: #296 Targetpractice

Ayep, the police are responsible for investigating themselves and the prosecutor who relies upon the police for their livelihood responsible for prosecuting them. And a justice system that is totally weighted in favor of cops taking whatever steps to “protect themselves,” even if they provoked the situation in the first place. If you roll up on an “active shooter” and blow him away, it doesn’t matter that you put yourself in that situation, you were just acting in “self defense.”

At least here in Virginia, police shootings and the like are usually investigated by the State Police and they’re usually conducted in a fair and proper manner. And a special prosecutor is supposed to be named so the local Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office isn’t involved.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:23:33am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the police are only part of the problem: prosecutors need to work with police to obtain indictments and convictions. Working to obtain and indictment/conviction against police officers is going to make their job more difficult: a built-in conflict of interest

Yup. Police shootings should automatically go to the state or federal AGs offices. The prosecutors have to work with the police. Look at the judge in Orange County and what they are doing to him after he called out police malfeasance.

This symbiotic relationship allows killing of citizens and nothing coming of it; no accountability, no justice. Just another day in the good old US of A.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:26:55am

Anyone know what Twitter lists are? I keep getting added to various lists and I don’t get them.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:27:41am

re: #304 MsJ

Anyone know what Twitter lists are? I keep getting added to various lists and I don’t get them.

Yet another way to get spammed on Twitter.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:30:52am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:32:40am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

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seriously?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:33:20am

re: #304 MsJ

Anyone know what Twitter lists are? I keep getting added to various lists and I don’t get them.

I use lists to manage my Twitter feeds. I have an LGF list that includes many of you, as well as other politically astute tweeters.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:33:52am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

Obviously, we’ve only ever had one president, Barack Obama. Our second president will be a woman.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:34:05am

re: #277 lawhawk

All lives matter? Right?

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Freddie Gray was killed by Baltimore cops while in their custody. No one will ever see jail time for that crime. The remaining cops have had the charges dropped against them.

And what will happen is that the lack of charges or convictions against them will be taken as indisputable proof of Gray’s guilt, same exactly way that happened with Michael Brown, Travyon Martin, Tamir Rice, etc. and anon. Not Guilty for their killersa almost necessarily becomes Guilty verdicts for them and further synonymizes their name with ‘criminal’ and ‘thug.

re: #282 The Vicious Babushka

I did see that movie. Very underrated.

I’m usually not one for political thrillers, but I absolutely love The Contender for some reason.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:34:23am

WILL SOMEBODY FIX THAT DAMN CLOCK ALREADY!!!

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:34:50am
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:35:10am
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:35:52am

re: #308 Sir John Barron

I use lists to manage my Twitter feeds. I have an LGF list that includes many of you, as well as other politically astute tweeters.

Ok, thanks. I wasn’t sure why people I don’t know or who follow me put me on their lists.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:35:57am

The bad thing is that I seriously wonder if the officer will be convicted in the Walter Scott shooting at this point.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:38:45am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

I left my laptop running with the Windows 10 update overnight. This morning I was greeted by a great big WELCOME TO WINDOWS 10 screen and a creature named “Cortana” has taken up residence inside my laptop.

Kind of creepy. Also disabled all of the Lenovo apps (which I never used anyway).

Congrats. My personal Lenovo laptop came pre-loaded with 10 when I bought it. But the upgrade of my work Dell went pretty well with just a couple minor issues.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:39:37am

re: #315 Timothy Watson

The bad thing is that I seriously wonder if the officer will be convicted in the Walter Scott shooting at this point.

That one bucked the trend of actually getting an indictment, so there’s hope, but at the same time, there’s clearly far too much willingness to let an unlawful killing go untouched long as you can pull out the ‘line of duty’ canard.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:40:31am

re: #314 MsJ

Ok, thanks. I wasn’t sure why people I don’t know or who follow me put me on their lists.

If I’m up against my follow limit I might also put someone on a list so I can follow their tweets that way.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:40:40am
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:40:47am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

I left my laptop running with the Windows 10 update overnight. This morning I was greeted by a great big WELCOME TO WINDOWS 10 screen and a creature named “Cortana” has taken up residence inside my laptop.

Kind of creepy. Also disabled all of the Lenovo apps (which I never used anyway).

Even though I disable Cortana, I love the name. Cortana was the name of the ship’s AI in Halo, the flagship game of Xbox.

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danarchy  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:40:53am

re: #306 MsJ

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I think Kelsey is getting ahead of herself there. She hasn’t won the presidency yet…

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:41:06am

re: #313 MsJ

Parsing it out, I think this is his position:

Eliminate the federal minimum wage.
Let the states decide.

That means that the states with no state minimum wage get a minimum wage of $0.
States that have a minimum wage below the federal standard would see their rate drop.
Those that have a higher minimum wage get to keep their higher rates if they want.

This is the 10A approach and means that folks living in places like AL, TN, MS, would see the minimum wage drop to nothing. Via the US DOL:

Not surprisingly, a chunk of states in the South would see the minimum wage drop away.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:41:44am

re: #304 MsJ

Anyone know what Twitter lists are? I keep getting added to various lists and I don’t get them.

Twitter Lists are a way of keeping track of certain accounts by creating categories for them. At least that is how I use them. I have lists for wingnuts that I hate-follow and for best Twitters.

If you are going to create a hate-follow list, give it a neutral name like “Top Tweets” because if you call it “Nutjobs” or “Trumporrhoids” they will block you.

I frequently get added to “Libtards” lists and of course I just block whoever listed me.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:42:57am

re: #319 MsJ

feature, not a bug, etc.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:43:02am

SMOTI logic:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:43:14am

re: #320 Belafon

Even though I disable Cortana, I love the name. Cortana was the name of the ship’s AI in Halo, the flagship game of Xbox.

Now it keeps nagging me to set up a Microsoft account (I think I created one years ago but never use it) if I want to use the app for Yahoo! mail.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:43:27am

Trump refuses to release his taxes, give any details about his insane proposals, and yet Hillary is the one that “can’t be trusted” according to our librul media.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:44:25am
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:46:12am

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

Now it keeps nagging me to set up a Microsoft account (I think I created one years ago but never use it) if I want to use the app for Yahoo! mail.

Don’t do it. Create a local account instead.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:46:19am

re: #321 danarchy

I think Kelsey is getting ahead of herself there. She hasn’t won the presidency yet…

I think she meant nomination as noted in all the screen grabs.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:46:54am

re: #315 Timothy Watson

The bad thing is that I seriously wonder if the officer will be convicted in the Walter Scott shooting at this point.

“Scary black man” defense followed by an acquittal or a wrist slap sentence that allows the cop to be hired by another department on a “clean” record.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:47:56am

re: #329 Belafon

Don’t do it. Create a local account instead.

4sysops.com

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:48:12am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart

Manafort will be holding a similar press conference in a few weeks to tell us that Trump won’t be participating in any debates.

No snark. I’m fully expecting this to happen.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:48:27am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well, will he be allowed to buy a gun, or will he be denied his 2nd Amendment rights?

Heck, he can always just but one illegally, that’s why gun control doesn’t work.

/

Hopefully his mom won’t take him on visits to the local firing range.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:48:55am

re: #323 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter Lists are a way of keeping track of certain accounts by creating categories for them. At least that is how I use them. I have lists for wingnuts that I hate-follow and for best Twitters.

If you are going to create a hate-follow list, give it a neutral name like “Top Tweets” because if you call it “Nutjobs” or “Trumporrhoids” they will block you.

I frequently get added to “Libtards” lists and of course I just block whoever listed me.

Thanks. I don’t want a list, I was wondering why I was being added to these lists. Two journalists and an author added me…and I have no idea why.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:49:00am

re: #333 Lidane

Manafort will be holding a similar press conference in a few weeks to tell us that Trump won’t be participating in any debates.

No snark. I’m fully expecting this to happen.

No doubt because he doesn’t trust the media to be “fair” in any such debate and that “Crooked Hillary” totally has the media on her side.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:49:42am

re: #333 Lidane

Manafort will be holding a similar press conference in a few weeks to tell us that Trump won’t be participating in any debates.

No snark. I’m fully expecting this to happen.

Wait until he requests to swear on The Art of the Deal at the inauguration.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:49:45am

re: #322 lawhawk

Parsing it out, I think this is his position:

Eliminate the federal minimum wage.
Let the states decide.

That means that the states with no state minimum wage get a minimum wage of $0.
States that have a minimum wage below the federal standard would see their rate drop.
Those that have a higher minimum wage get to keep their higher rates if they want.

This is the 10A approach and means that folks living in places like AL, TN, MS, would see the minimum wage drop to nothing. Via the US DOL:

Embedded Image

Not surprisingly, a chunk of states in the South would see the minimum wage drop away.

Virginia’s minimum wage (and probably others) would cease to exist since it’s by statute tied to the minimum wage set by the Fair Labor Standards Act:

Every employer shall pay to each of his employees wages at a rate not less than the federal minimum wage and a training wage as prescribed by the U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act (29 U.S.C. § 201 et seq.).

law.lis.virginia.gov

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:50:07am

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

You can skip that…even though they make it hard to figure out. If you add one, that is your login…and a PITA.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:50:59am

re: #335 MsJ

Thanks. I don’t want a list, I was wondering why I was being added to these lists. Two journalists and an author added me…and I have no idea why.

People create lists for various reasons. Sometimes it’s because you used a specific hashtag.

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Interesting Times  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:51:05am

re: #333 Lidane

Manafort will be holding a similar press conference in a few weeks to tell us that Trump won’t be participating in any debates.

No snark. I’m fully expecting this to happen.

I’m expecting at least one debate where he tries to rattle Hillary with his usual schoolyard bully taunts. If it backfires so spectacularly even he can’t lie about it, then he’ll duck out of future debates.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:51:31am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart

WILL SOMEBODY FIX THAT DAMN CLOCK ALREADY!!!

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Is bad that every time that Kristol opens his mouth and says something I agree with my belief that Hillary Clinton will win goes down?

I am starting to think Kristol might be some Trump psyop.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:51:33am

re: #224 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Stop it!!!

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:51:40am

re: #339 MsJ

You can skip that…even though they make it hard to figure out. If you add one, that is your login…and a PITA.

I hadn’t realized on Windows 8 what a Microsoft account actually meant, until I got to a location where I had no internet access, and then couldn’t log onto the computer at all.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:52:01am

re: #333 Lidane

Manafort will be holding a similar press conference in a few weeks to tell us that Trump won’t be participating in any debates.

No snark. I’m fully expecting this to happen.

As am I and I have been saying that for a while.

But, as has been pointed out to me (rightfully), I was wrong about him being the nominee. I did not think the GOP would go full nutzo. I was wrong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:52:45am

re: #333 Lidane

Manafort will be holding a similar press conference in a few weeks to tell us that Trump won’t be participating in any debates.

No snark. I’m fully expecting this to happen.

And explain that it is the fault of crooked Hillary and/or the unfair liberal media.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:52:47am

TexASS….. No surprises here.

Facebook Post

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:53:41am

re: #342 Timothy Watson

Is bad that every time that Kristol opens his mouth and says something I agree with my belief that Hillary Clinton will win goes down?

I am starting to think Kristol might be some Trump psyop.

I think with Kristol and Erickson there is actually a line they aren’t willing to cross. It may be really far out there, like the far edge of the galaxy, but it’s there. Even they see that what Trump is doing is just tearing the party apart.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:54:12am

re: #347 Dave In Austin

TexASS….. No surprises here.

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I can’t get on there at work. What’s our state done again?

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:55:14am

re: #254 lawhawk

Super smart of Trump to announce he won’t release his tax returns with two days of DNC convention left to go. Brilliant move.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:55:21am

re: #347 Dave In Austin

TexASS….. No surprises here.

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Looks like they can be reindicted by another grand jury and jeopardy hadn’t attached yet.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:55:42am

re: #333 Lidane

Manafort will be holding a similar press conference in a few weeks to tell us that Trump won’t be participating in any debates.

No snark. I’m fully expecting this to happen.

I think Trump likes to debate, though. So I expect him to want more debates. But only with moderators he approves of, etc. Lots of rules laid down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:56:19am

re: #348 Belafon

I think with Kristol and Erickson there is actually a line they aren’t willing to cross. It may be really far out there, like the far edge of the galaxy, but it’s there. Even they see that what Trump is doing is just tearing the party apart.

I think the decision of the RNC was that dumping Trump would split the party and lose the election. So keep Trump, still lose the election, but at least the party will remain intact and have four years of Hillary-bashing to hide behind while it tries to rally and recover.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:56:32am

re: #350 stpaulbear

Super smart of Trump to announce he won’t release his tax returns with two days of DNC convention left to go. Brilliant move.

Maybe the DNC can find Mark Cuban a speaking spot.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:56:35am

re: #349 Belafon

Criminal charges against the anti-abortion activists behind undercover recordings of a Houston Planned Parenthood facility were dismissed Tuesday.

David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt, the videographers who infiltrated Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, had been charged with tampering with a governmental record, a second-degree felony charge that carries up to 20 years in prison. A court clerk confirmed that the Harris County district attorney’s office filed the motion to dismiss the case against Daleiden and Merritt.

Harris County DA Devon Anderson said in a statement that Texas limits what can be investigated after a grand jury term gets extended, which happened in this case.

“In light of this and after careful research and review, this office dismissed the indictments,” Anderson said.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:57:28am

Sanity break: Even if you’re not an astro-buff, this is well worth a look.

Great American Eclipse

Millions of Americans will see the sight of a lifetime on August 21, 2017 when a rare total solar eclipse sweeps the nation from Oregon to South Carolina. Day turns to night for two minutes and the sky’s most beautiful spectacle, the Sun’s corona, reveals itself in grandeur.

This is a beautiful and evocative website. The sunlit, mildly retro, visuals are perfect for the subject matter.

They also have this nifty poster, patterned after a 1912 French original. The positions of the Sun and Moon “take artistic licence,” but the path is accurate.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:59:14am

re: #356 Shiplord Kirel

(I could not get this image to embed in the post above for anything. Finally gave up. It went on this one with no delay at all.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 7:59:46am

re: #356 Shiplord Kirel

Sanity break: Even if you’re not an astro-buff, this is well worth a look.

Great American Eclipse

This is a beautiful and evocative website. The sunlit, mildly retro, visuals are perfect for the subject matter.

They also have this nifty poster, patterned after a 1912 French original. The positions of the Sun and Moon “take artistic licence,” but the path is accurate.

You might say it is the moon passing between Earth and sun, but we know that it is a giant dragon eating the sun and spitting it back out.

and our version of events is just as valid as yours, because we believe

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:01:33am

re: #356 Shiplord Kirel

Sanity break: Even if you’re not an astro-buff, this is well worth a look.

Great American Eclipse

This is a beautiful and evocative website. The sunlit, mildly retro, visuals are perfect for the subject matter.

They also have this nifty poster, patterned after a 1912 French original. The positions of the Sun and Moon “take artistic licence,” but the path is accurate.

That’s a Friday. I may be taking that day off. I have a solar filter for my telescope.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:01:51am

re: #358 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You might say it is the moon passing between Earth and sun, but we know that it is a giant dragon eating the sun and spitting it back out.

and our version of events is just as valid as yours, because we believe

Yeah, this must have happened dozens of times since the Earth was created.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:04:48am

re: #360 Shiplord Kirel

Yeah, this must have happened dozens of times since the Earth was created.

Sometimes a witch causes the moon to turn blood red. So we find a witch, burn her and the moon turns back. Works every time.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:09:07am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:09:11am

I just can’t even

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:09:17am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:09:24am

Appears that Hillary deleted 30k emails!!!! is the new Benghazi!!!!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:10:01am

Melt down

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:10:05am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

I just can’t even

Pretty sure Michelle Obama just dropped that line to troll Rush and OReilly.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:10:53am

re: #364 lawhawk

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Desperation seems to have begun to sink in.

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:11:13am

re: #364 lawhawk

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No he didn’t… O.O

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:12:22am

I can say I never imagined the day when I’d hear a candidate for the presidency state publicly that he hoped our national security was compromised by a foreign power.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:13:02am

re: #367 Sir John Barron

Pretty sure Michelle Obama just dropped that line to troll Rush and OReilly.

I am also waiting for the old “Islamic African blacks sold other blacks into slavery!” line to be tossed into the mix.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:13:23am

re: #362 MsJ

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Somewhere, Reince Priebus’ liver screams in horror and agony.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:14:10am

re: #370 Targetpractice

I can say I never imagined the day when I’d hear a candidate for the presidency state publicly that he hoped our national security was compromised by a foreign power.

The word “traitor” springs to mind….

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:14:23am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:14:29am

re: #313 MsJ

Drumpf appears to believe that casting his gaze upon something is what Presidents do.

“I will look at this. I will have top people look at this.”

Is he clumsily trying to present himself as a Clinton-esque Problem Studier? Or is he simply clueless? Hmm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:14:46am

re: #370 Targetpractice

I can say I never imagined the day when I’d hear a candidate for the presidency state publicly that he hoped our national security was compromised by a foreign power.

I can say I never imagined the day when the candidate of a major party could say whatever occurs to him at the moment from day to day with no regard to truth or even consistency, and not be taken to task for it…

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:16:32am

re: #376 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can say I never imagined the day when the candidate of a major party could say whatever occurs to him at the moment from day to day with no regard to truth or even consistency, and not be taken to task for it…

Yeah, I imagine now the contrary will happen, i.e. the media actually entertaining this conspiracy theory about the Kremlin having possession of her emails and bringing in “experts” to suggest that her server was totally hacked and Putin’s sitting on a goldmine of emails that he’s going to release “any day now.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:16:52am

re: #375 Pawn of the Oppressor

Drumpf appears to believe that casting his gaze upon something is what Presidents do.

Just emulating his hero Kim Jong Un

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:17:13am

Holy shit, he is basically admitting his ties to Russia. Jesus.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:17:20am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:17:49am

re: #379 Jenner7

Holy shit, he is basically admitting his ties to Russia. Jesus.

Is he on the teevee now? I’ll have to get updates here if so.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:18:04am

re: #354 Belafon

Maybe the DNC can find Mark Cuban a speaking spot.

I mean, WTF was Trump’s campaign thinking? Did they think it would fly under the radar because there’s so much other news happening? Did they do this to attract attention away from the DNC convention? Are they seeing this as sneaky and smart rather than a super softball lobbed right over the plate during the last game of the world series? I don’t get it - the timing couldn’t be any more stupid.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:18:30am

re: #381 A wild WITHAK appeared!

He’s having a press conference, just turned it on.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:19:14am

re: #371 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am also waiting for the old “Islamic African blacks sold other blacks into slavery!” line to be tossed into the mix.

hasn’t been used already? gosh wingnuts are falling down on the job.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:20:14am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

I just can’t even

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Limbaugh’s own blood is full of Oxy.

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iossarian  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:20:40am

re: #384 Sir John Barron

hasn’t been used already? gosh wingnuts are falling down on the job.

Barbary pirates used to plunder the Cornish coast and carry off white slaves you know. True fact.

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danarchy  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:21:20am

re: #368 Targetpractice

Desperation seems to have begun to sink in.

On a day when the LA Times released a poll that has Trump up 7 I am not going to start talking about desperation. Until Clinton is up consistently beyond the margin of error I won’t be comfortable.

I know the LA Times poll is a bit of an outlier, and Clinton hasn’t gotten her convention bounce yet, but still, not going to rest easy yet.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:22:14am

I cannot believe how easy it is poke wingnuts.

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Black d20  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:22:19am

While I’m not trying to invoke him like sort of poltergeist, has DF been around?

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:22:21am
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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:22:41am

He says it’s “far fetched” his ties to russia, but this:

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:22:47am

re: #372 Dr Lizardo

Somewhere, Reince Priebus’ liver screams in horror and agony.

I think you (and many others) are assuming Reince isn’t in agreement. We all think he’s off somewhere drinking himself to death while it is likely that he’s happy as a clam and proud as hell of his candidate.

Different rules. Different priorities. Party before country.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:23:29am

re: #370 Targetpractice

I can say I never imagined the day when I’d hear a candidate for the presidency state publicly that he hoped our national security was compromised by a foreign power.

Hope that puts a lid on his security briefings.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:23:33am

re: #372 Dr Lizardo

Somewhere, Reince Priebus’ liver screams in horror and agony.

Reince every morning:

Archers “Bloody Mary prayer”

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:23:54am

re: #387 danarchy

On a day when the LA Times released a poll that has Trump up 7 I am not going to start talking about desperation. Until Clinton is up consistently beyond the margin of error I won’t be comfortable.

I know the LA Times poll is a bit of an outlier, and Clinton hasn’t gotten her convention bounce yet, but still, not going to rest easy yet.

In other words, Jan 20, 2025 then.

We can see them being desperate without us getting complacent.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:23:54am

re: #392 MsJ

I think you (and many others) are assuming Reince isn’t in agreement. We all think he’s off somewhere drinking himself to death while it is likely that he’s happy as a clam and proud as hell of his candidate.

Different rules. Different priorities. Party before country.

I think you’re ok to something there. Reince seems to feel no shame of Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:23:58am

re: #392 MsJ

I think you (and many others) are assuming Reince isn’t in agreement. We all think he’s off somewhere drinking himself to death while it is likely that he’s happy as a clam and proud as hell of his candidate.

Different rules. Different priorities. Party before country.

Good point.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:24:00am

re: #390 Lidane

Trump going after Tim Kaine on his record in NJ? Tim Kaine ≠ Tom Kean
— Gabriel Debenedetti

Just absolutely insane.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:25:00am

re: #398 Sir John Barron

Just absolutely insane.

Tom Keane is like 90 years old and a Republican. Was governor of NJ in the 1980’s. Co-chaired the 9-11 commission. Trump is deranged.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:25:02am

We have a candidate for President publicly asking Russia to hack us. God damn.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:25:33am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

I think you’re ok to something there. Reince seems to feel no shame of Trump.

Rinse passed the point of shame long ago.

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:25:49am

re: #400 Jenner7

We have a candidate for President publicly asking Russia to hack us. God damn.

How long before he, accidentally or not, implicates himself with the hacks?

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:28:14am

I went for the Win 10 update on my work computer last evening. As of now, the istaller is still sitting at 99%.

Rant incoming…

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:29:47am
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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:30:02am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

I just can’t even

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As a Confederate apologist Limbaugh does have plenty of slave blood, on his chubby little hands.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:30:08am
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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:30:23am

re: #390 Lidane

And Tom Kean Keen is dreamy

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:31:15am
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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:31:24am

And this man will be receiving classified information.

This is incredible.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:31:48am

So, this is a presser w/questions, and did anyone actually clarify to Trump that

Tim Kaine ≠ Tom Kean

Or did they leave that one go? Asking for a friend.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:32:03am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:32:56am

re: #410 lawhawk

So, this is a presser w/questions, and did anyone actually clarify to Trump that

Tim Kaine ≠ Tom Kean

Or did they leave that one go? Asking for a friend.

Trump rules! Vote Trump! Save America!

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:33:35am

Man, Putin’s got him on a fucking leash at this point, doesn’t he?

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:34:08am

*cough*

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:34:58am

re: #411 Jenner7

That requires a statement from POTUS, absolutely.

Something along the lines of:

“Whether Mr. Trump said this in jest or not, let me be clear. The United States takes cyber security seriously. And the hacking of private or governmental institutions is not only illegal…yadda yadda yadda”

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:35:51am

re: #407 Franklin

I don’t know who that is but…yum.me!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:36:16am

re: #387 danarchy

On a day when the LA Times released a poll that has Trump up 7 I am not going to start talking about desperation. Until Clinton is up consistently beyond the margin of error I won’t be comfortable.

I know the LA Times poll is a bit of an outlier, and Clinton hasn’t gotten her convention bounce yet, but still, not going to rest easy yet.

I won’t rest easy until she survives her second term.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:36:32am

re: #415 Franklin

That requires a statement from POTUS, absolutely.

Something along the lines of:

“Whether Mr. Trump said this in jest or not, let me be clear. The United States takes cyber security seriously. And the hacking of private or governmental institutions is not only illegal…yadda yadda yadda”

Stop lecturing us obummer! //

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:36:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:37:49am

re: #389 Black d20

While I’m not trying to invoke him like sort of poltergeist, has DF been around?

recently, but not today

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:38:02am

re: #419 Lidane

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Biden is going to have a good speech.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:38:23am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:39:30am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:40:10am

re: #409 Jenner7

And this man will be receiving classified information.

This is incredible.

It might be best if the courtesy of classified briefings be withdrawn from Trump and, in the interest of fairness, from HRC. Seriously.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:41:08am

re: #409 Jenner7

And this man will be receiving classified information.

This is incredible.

Not any more.

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:42:13am

re: #422 Lidane

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Did he call him a “jive turkey”? Where is Barbara Billingsley when you need her?

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blueraven  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:43:08am

Trump doesn’t think it is safe for Hillary to get intel briefings.

wow.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:44:05am

These reporter suck.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:44:09am

That sound you hear is DNC speeches being edited furiously.

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:44:17am

re: #409 Jenner7

And this man will be receiving classified information.

This is incredible.

He’ll just give it to Omarosa to parse so no biggie./

Seriously—why are the media not roasting this buffoon over an open fire every hour of every day? Oooh, but Bill Clinton didn’t mention all his indiscretions and started his narrative in an odd way, so Rachel and Nicolle were dismayed. (I didn’t find his opening unsettling, though some here did—I thought he was just building a story and making himself the bit player/second banana to Hillary—ymmv)

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:44:18am

This is surreal….

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:45:13am

re: #419 Lidane

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If I were the President of Poland, looking at what Trump has said about NATO, I would tell my military to draw up contingency plans for developing nuclear weapons, because if Trump is elected President the NATO alliance is effectively a dead letter.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:45:14am

re: #427 blueraven

Trump doesn’t think it is safe for Hillary to get intel briefings.

wow.

There is no requirement for them, and I doubt that Johnson and Stein are included.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:45:14am

ROFL:

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blueraven  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:46:27am
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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:48:32am

re: #435 blueraven

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He’s trying to make tonight’s convention be all about himself. I hope that speakers rewrite their speeches to combat all of his bullshit but still don’t mention him by name. He’d explode.

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:48:41am

re: #416 MsJ

I don’t know who that is but…yum.me!

Ryan Eggold, “Tom Keen” from NBC’s The Blacklist

Google Image Search:

google.com

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blueraven  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:48:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:52:32am

re: #434 Lidane

ROFL:

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He frigging had a NYC GOP mayor st the convention. So much for that perfect memory.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:52:48am

Explosion Near Migration Office In Germany

An explosion has been reported near a reception centre for migrants in Zirndorf, Germany.

A suitcase believed to have been filled with aerosols exploded outside the centre in Bavaria, according to local media.

The BR24 news website reported witnesses as saying several men ran away from the scene after the blast.

Aerosol bomb, the shallow end of the terrorist pool. These sometimes remove fingers from imprudent teens in this country but are not much of a hazard otherwise.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:53:01am

re: #438 blueraven

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Yes!

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:53:34am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:54:02am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:54:40am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:54:48am
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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:54:49am

re: #443 The Vicious Babushka

Wait, what? Is that real?

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:57:44am
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:58:19am

Just insane.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:58:23am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

I just can’t even

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Also, you know, factually wrong:

A study of Barack Obama’s family history has revealed that he is likely to be a descendant of the first African enslaved in the American colonies.

Perhaps surprisingly, the line to the president’s 11th great-grandfather was traced through the president’s white mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, whose ancestors were some of the first African American settlers of colonial America.

According to the genealogy website ancestry.com Dunham is a descendant of John Punch, who was an indentured servant in colonial Virginia and became enslaved for life in 1640 as punishment for an attempted escape. His case is the first documented proof of someone being enslaved for life in the colonies and happened before Virginia enacted slavery laws.

theguardian.com

One reason that I am no longer a Republican/conservative?

I have a functioning memory.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:58:33am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:59:24am

re: #447 jaunte

Trump is now attacking Tim Kaine’s governance of New Jersey
10:06 AM - 27 Jul 2016

If that’s intended as a joke, the writer is way behind the curve.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:59:30am

A lot of RWNJs would have no problem at all with Putin being boss in the US as well. Freep and Redstate are crawling with Putin fanboys and rt.com readers. They are not disturbed by the growing revelation of Putin’s meddling in American affairs, they are delighted.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:59:35am

I think we need to get a constitutional amendment that whoever runs for the White House must submit to a mental health screening. Those that refuse, will be categorically denied a place on the ballot.

Trump’s clearly showing that he’s mentally unfit to be President. Fact-free, memory(hole) shot. Doesn’t remember that Rudy was a Republican. Or Bloomberg. Rudy even spoke at the RNC convention (several times) and ran for the WH as a Republican.

This is the kind of idiocy that scratches the surface.

That Trump thinks that it’s okay for Russian intel to go hacking into the State Department to dish dirt on Hillary is disqualifying. He’s calling on a foreign state to actively engage against the US and it’s strategic interests.

For all the BS about how Hillary is a threat to the US because of deleted emails and all the Benghazi nonsense, Trump is actively soliciting foreign entities and actors to violate US law so he can become President.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:00:12am

re: #449 Timothy Watson

Also, you know, factually wrong:

theguardian.com

One reason that I am no longer a Republican/conservative?

I have a functioning memory.

I was going to mention John Punch too.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:00:32am

52 minutes ago as this trainwreck began…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:01:51am

re: #455 jaunte

52 minutes ago as this trainwreck began…

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Well, he’s right about NJ, just has the wrong governor.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:02:00am
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:02:03am
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:02:54am
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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:03:24am

re: #447 jaunte

Trump is now attacking Tim Kaine’s governance of New Jersey
10:06 AM - 27 Jul 2016

No, it’s true. You can’t name one positive thing Kaine has achieved as Governor of New Jersey.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:03:57am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:04:19am
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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:04:24am
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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:04:36am

re: #445 FormerDirtDart

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Trump on TV acting like a crazy man, while his VP issues the party-approved press release.

Isn’t it supposed to be the other way, the candidate looking like he’s above the scrum while his VP acts as attack dog?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:05:17am
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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:06:08am

re: #458 jaunte

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:06:15am

Feast of Fools.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:06:29am

re: #465 The Vicious Babushka

It’s Bullshit Fountain!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:06:45am

re: #463 Jenner7

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Okay let’s talk Trump on veterans, he couldn’t give an answer on the GI bill. As for Hinckley, take it up with the judge who found him innocent by insanity.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:06:47am

re: #463 Jenner7

Is that the beginning of the bargaining stage?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:07:07am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:07:08am
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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:07:56am

“When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.”

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:08:26am

re: #465 The Vicious Babushka

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So much renegotiating, you’re going to be sick of renegotiating.

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:08:27am

re: #464 Targetpractice

Trump on TV acting like a crazy man, while his VP issues the party-approved press release.

Isn’t it supposed to be the other way, the candidate looking like he’s above the scrum while his VP acts as attack dog?

Not when the VP is charged with handling foreign and domestic policy and the President is charged with “Making America Great Again”. Feature, not bug.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:08:47am

He will insist that it was a joke about Russia hacking Hillary and move on. Press will parrot his excuse and move on, fully knowing he will say something equally or more outrageous tomorrow…

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No Depression  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:10:31am

re: #463 Jenner7

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Seriously, fuck Bret Baier.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:10:41am

re: #472 The Vicious Babushka

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Traitor. Donald Trump is an open and unabashed fifth-columnist for Vladimir Putin.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:10:55am

Three more months of this. He’ll be biting the heads from live bats before the second debate.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:11:08am

just dropping in that they’re really letting this guy get away with this:

11/11/15: “I got to know him very well because we were both on 60 Minutes, we were stablemates.”

07/27/16: “I have nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do, I never met Putin.”

“I never met Putin. I don’t know who he is.” quoted by Yahoo News today.

and all the malarkey aside how does he not know who putin is? gah

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:11:14am

re: #452 Shiplord Kirel

A lot of RWNJs would have no problem at all with Putin being boss in the US as well. Freep and Redstate are crawling with Putin fanboys and rt.com readers. They are not disturbed by the growing revelation of Putin’s meddling in American affairs, they are delighted.

There was a lot of talk of Russia paying vast numbers of people (an army is how it was phrased) being paid to post pro-Trump stuff all over the internet. I would be curious as to how long those Freep/Redstate posters have been around.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:11:21am

re: #471 FormerDirtDart

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Will we see a serious rift between Ryan and Trump in the next few weeks? We can only hope.

Of course, if Trump is simply allowed by the press to walk back his idiotic statements and positions, none of it will matter.

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Teukka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:11:33am

re: #478 Dr Lizardo

Traitor. Donald Trump is an open and unabashed fifth-columnist for Vladimir Putin.

I concur, he be traitor.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:12:36am

re: #481 MsJ

There was a lot of talk of Russia paying vast numbers of people (an army is how it was phrased) being paid to post pro-Trump stuff all over the internet. I would be curious as to how long those Freep/Redstate posters have been around.

During the primaries, I saw there was a hell of a lot of complaining about Trump supporters being noobs on Free Republic.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:13:02am

When you’re trying to rationalize Trump’s insanity…

The scariest part of all this is that there’s polling showing Trump close to HRC in winning the WH.

This man is a deranged lunatic. That’s abundantly clear to anyone with a functioning neuron. The GOP should commit seppuku to save us all, but wont. They’ll leave it to everyone else to do it - and it’ll come down to women and minorities to save the nation from this existential threat.

Think I’m engaging in hyperbole with this? Since when does a candidate/nominee for the US President think it acceptable for a foreign entity or nation to hack US agencies/departments so that he can see “deleted Hillary emails”?

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:13:46am

This country needs a goddamn intervention.

I’m about to overdose on stupidity and insanity.

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KerFuFFler  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:14:07am

re: #11 CuriousLurker

I can’t stay tonight, but I wanted to drop this off before going to bed so ya’ll can relax and not worry about the election. Bet you didn’t know there are licensed psychics:

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G’nite, Lizards. ;-)

Reminds me of the time a delusional (she thought she could sing!?!) woman on American idol was positive that she was going to win because she was also a “professional” psychic. Simon quipped after her disastrous audition that this was the first time he knew of that a poor performance had possibly ruined two distinct ambitions, being a singer and being a psychic.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:15:11am

re: #482 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Will we see a serious rift between Ryan and Trump in the next few weeks? We can only hope.

Of course, if Trump is simply allowed by the press to walk back his idiotic statements and positions, none of it will matter.

I’m starting to wonder if Pence is going to resign out of embarrassment.

I would.

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iossarian  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:15:24am

re: #485 lawhawk

The GOP should commit seppuku to save us all, but wont. They’ll leave it to everyone else to do it - and it’ll come down to women and minorities to save the nation from this existential threat.

This is really insightful. Supposedly serious white men are abdicating their responsibility for governance and relying on people they have contempt for to do the right thing.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:15:51am

re: #488 makeitstop

I’m starting to wonder if Pence is going to resign out of embarrassment.

I would.

i though that watching those first few joint appearances

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:15:56am

re: #488 makeitstop

I’m starting to wonder if Pence is going to resign out of embarrassment.

I would.

I was just thinking the same thing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:16:22am

re: #333 Lidane

He’ll try and make Pence debate for him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:16:36am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:16:42am

re: #488 makeitstop

I’m starting to wonder if Pence is going to resign out of embarrassment.

I would.

He’ll just go to couple’s therapy with Christie.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:17:12am

re: #488 makeitstop

I’m starting to wonder if Pence is going to resign out of embarrassment.

I would.

He must have calculated Trump’s demeanor into his decision. Either he knows something we don’t — that his political career was going to be over if he didn’t hop on the Trump Train — or he figured it was worth the gamble.

I don’t see him jumping ship unless Trump starts biting the heads off of live chickens or similar.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:17:34am

Funny ‘bout that, Li’l Whiplash, Russian hackers did not access Hillary’s private server, only the DNC and US Government servers.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:18:39am

re: #486 makeitstop

This town needs an enema. And Trump needs to be stopped.

If all his insane positions until today were insufficient, today’s presser should remove all doubt that this man cannot ever be allowed near the White House under any circumstances.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:18:39am
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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:19:08am

i havent been reading upthread (or is it down?)

have y’all seen this:

DNC - Our Fight Song

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No Depression  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:19:12am

I really hope there’s an enterprising hacker out there working to leak Trump’s tax returns. We have a right to know what’s in them.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:19:42am

re: #495 A wild WITHAK appeared!

He must have calculated Trump’s demeanor into his decision. Either he knows something we don’t — that his political career was going to be over if he didn’t hop on the Trump Train — or he figured it was worth the gamble.

I don’t see him jumping ship unless Trump starts biting the heads off of live chickens or similar.

Or he knows that Trump will either jump or be pushed from the presidency, resulting in President Pence.

The GOP is clearly playing by Banana Republic rules at this point.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:20:00am

re: #499 dangerman

i havent been reading upthread (or is it down?)

have y’all seen this:

DNC - Our Fight Song

In Trumpworld, up is down, left is right, peace is slavery.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:20:13am

re: #498 Charles Johnson

The founding fathers didn’t anticipate Trump. There’s no mechanism for disqualifying rampant loons.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:20:30am
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iossarian  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:20:32am

re: #498 Charles Johnson

SMOTI is as SMOTI does.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:20:50am

re:re: #498 Charles Johnson

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He hates Democrats that much. I’ts fucking madness.

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:21:27am

We don’t have a right to see Trumps hacked emails. Just like we didn’t have the right to see the DNC’s hacked emails.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:21:43am

re: #495 A wild WITHAK appeared!

He’s probably just eyeing a post election book deal and Fox contributor gig.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:21:53am

re: #506 HappyWarrior

re: #498 Charles Johnson

He hates Democrats that much. I’ts fucking madness.

Madness

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:22:43am

re: #502 A wild WITHAK appeared!

In Trumpworld, up is down, left is right, peace is slavery.

And of course Ignorance is Strength.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:23:59am

So serious question: Who, if any person or group, has the power to disqualify Trump from running for President?

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:24:29am

re: #496 The Vicious Babushka

Funny ‘bout that, Li’l Whiplash, Russian hackers did not access Hillary’s private server, only the DNC and US Government servers.

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The latest talking point, courtesy of an NY Post anonymous “source” in the US intel community, is that the Russians had her email server’s passwords and so didn’t need to hack it. Hence why the FBI found no evidence of the server being successfully hacked.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:24:33am

re: #511 Eclectic Cyborg

So serious question: Who, if any person or group, has the power to disqualify Trump from running for President?

It’s in our laps now.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:25:57am

re: #511 Eclectic Cyborg

So serious question: Who, if any person or group, has the power to disqualify Trump from running for President?

The answer is the Republican party does. They could at any time. But, it would do serious damage to the party.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:26:38am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:26:45am

If this is what Trump’s pressers have devolved into, his reddit AMA should be a nuclear shitshow.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:27:14am

re: #512 Targetpractice

The latest talking point, courtesy of an NY Post anonymous “source” in the US intel community, is that the Russians had her email server’s passwords and so didn’t need to hack it. Hence why the FBI found no evidence of the server being successfully hacked.

How did they allegedly obtain the passwords? And wouldn’t they be able to trace IPs from access logs to check for any unauthorized access attempts?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:27:20am

re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sometimes a witch causes the moon to turn blood red. So we find a witch, burn her and the moon turns back. Works every time.

She turned me into a newt. But I got better.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:27:20am

re: #514 Belafon

The answer is the Republican party does. They could at any time. But, it would do serious damage to the party.

More damage than Trump has done already??

Half /

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:27:42am

re: #499 dangerman

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:27:47am

What if this is all a ploy by Trump to disqualify himself from national security briefings, like a teenager who doesn’t want to do more homework? “Reading is for losers!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:27:51am

re: #511 Eclectic Cyborg

So serious question: Who, if any person or group, has the power to disqualify Trump from running for President?

The only thing we can do at this point is vote against him and encourage everyone we know to. And the only way to do that is to vote for Clinton. It’s not lesser evil, it’s holy shit that guy’s a fucking asshole who could blow up the entire world if his ego got bruised.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:28:23am

re: #517 Timothy Watson

IPs can be easily spoofed.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:28:23am

re: #503 Decatur Deb

The founding fathers didn’t anticipate Trump. There’s no mechanism for disqualifying rampant loons.

Which is why Section 4, of the 25th Amendment was added to the US Constitution

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

This may end up being the greatest planned ‘Bait-n-Switch’ in American history

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:29:15am

re: #521 A wild WITHAK appeared!

According to the guy who ghostwrote Art of the Deal Trump rarely reads anything.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:30:00am

re: #514 Belafon

The answer is the Republican party does. They could at any time. But, it would do serious damage to the party.

Would need a legal read to see if they really could do more than un-endorse him and cut off funding. It’s presumed that the guy you nominate can hold his shit together for 110 days.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:30:09am

re: #525 Eclectic Cyborg

According to the guy who ghostwrote Art of the Deal Trump rarely reads anything.

Such a great quality to have in a leader. God Trump makes W Bush look like Lincoln, FDR, and Washington all rolled into one.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:30:18am

re: #517 Timothy Watson

How did they allegedly obtain the passwords? And wouldn’t they be able to trace IPs from access logs to check for any unauthorized access attempts?

According to their “source,” she was careless with her Blackberry and the Russians stole it from there.

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:30:38am

re: #512 Targetpractice

The latest talking point, courtesy of an NY Post anonymous “source” in the US intel community, is that the Russians had her email server’s passwords and so didn’t need to hack it. Hence why the FBI found no evidence of the server being successfully hacked.

What a bunch of noobs. The “hack” would have been the means by which they got the password in the first place. Plus, the FBI would have found telltale signs of unauthorized access from IP’s nowhere near where Sec. Clinton could reasonably be assumed to access the server from.

re: #523 Eclectic Cyborg

IPs can be easily spoofed.

True.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:30:52am

re: #524 FormerDirtDart

But that kicks in after he’s inaugurated.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:31:01am

re: #524 FormerDirtDart

Interesting theory. Makes the choice of Pence seem a bit odd though.

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iossarian  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:31:06am

re: #524 FormerDirtDart

WOOO constitutional crisis and military-backed leadership takeover.

But of course it won’t come to that :)

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:31:40am
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:32:10am

re: #531 Eclectic Cyborg

Interesting theory. Makes the choice of Pence seem a bit odd though.

Why? Pence is the right’s wet dream. Hates liberals, hates abortion, hates spending, hates people. He’s perfect.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:32:58am

re: #525 Eclectic Cyborg

According to the guy who ghostwrote Art of the Deal Trump rarely reads anything.

All those years of tweaking with Tenuate Dospan have given him an attention span of < 15 seconds.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:33:15am

re: #534 MsJ

Why? Pence is the right’s wet dream. Hates liberals, hates abortion, hates spending, hates people. He’s perfect.

That, and their first choice (Kasich) turned out to have actual integrity.

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prairiefire  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:33:21am

re: #533 Charles Johnson

Leon! He’s correct, this is madness!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:33:45am

re: #533 Charles Johnson

Fmr. CIA Director Leon Panetta on Trump call for Russia HRC hacking: “That’s beyond the pale,” unfit to be President pic.twitter.com
— Christiane Amanpour (@camanpour) July 27, 2016

Trump responds: “Panetta? Wut does this guy know? He’s short. Really short. I mean really short. And he’s fat. Like really really fat. huge. Sad. “

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:34:06am

re: #533 Charles Johnson

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At this point, Trump could take a shit on live TV and the media would act like that’s totally normal for a presidential candidate to do.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:34:23am

re: #536 A wild WITHAK appeared!

That, and their first choice (Kasich) turned out to have actual integrity.

I think he was selected over Walker because Pence will likely lose reelection and Walker is 50/50. Anything to help further the cause of turning this country into the worst of others.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:34:49am

re: #539 Targetpractice

At this point, Trump could take a shit on live TV and the media would act like that’s totally normal for a presidential candidate to do.

I know one vote he’d lock in.

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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:34:53am

re: #539 Targetpractice

At this point, Trump could take a shit on live TV and the media would act like that’s totally normal for a presidential candidate to do.

And they’d wonder why Hillary hasn’t done that and what is she hiding.

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:35:00am

re: #468 jaunte

It’s Bullshit Fountain mountain!

Fixed

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:35:36am

re: #539 Targetpractice

At this point, Trump could take a shit on live TV and the media would act like that’s totally normal for a presidential candidate to do.

At this point he could be raping a live boy and a dead girl on national television and get a bump.

To say that right now I am in a very, very deep depression is an understatement.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:36:36am

re: #524 FormerDirtDart

Which is why Section 4, of the 25th Amendment was added to the US Constitution

This may end up being the greatest planned ‘Bait-n-Switch’ in American history

way too machiavellian for this crew. beside the goal is to get him elected and it looks like theyre doing everything wrong
not that it isnt working
i’m saying no one was smart enough to anticipate this 1 or more years ago and orchestrate it this brilliantly

i have no support for this

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whitebeach  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:36:36am

re: #224 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

That’s two days in a row, you sadistic son of a bitch. Is there no limit to your perverse craving to torture the rest of us?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:36:57am

re: #543 Archangelus

It’s Bullshit Fountain mountain Volcano!

Fixed

It can be a Mountain and a Fountain!

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:37:20am

re: #547 The Vicious Babushka

The endless flow is key.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:37:31am

Serious question — what are the chances of Mike Pence resigning from the ticket and going back to Indiana to finish out his term in office?

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:37:44am

President Obama is like being in that college class with that cool professor that gave you lots of leeway but just the right touch of discipline.

Donald Trump is like being at a frat party as you look on in amazement at the sheer lunacy of the scene. But in the back of your mind you fear that someone is likely to die in a “hold my beer and watch this” fashion.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:39:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:40:02am

re: #549 Lidane

Serious question — what are the chances of Mike Pence resigning from the ticket and going back to Indiana to finish out his term in office?

I am sure Chris Christie would love to know.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:40:14am

It’s only July.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:40:34am

re: #552 Eclectic Cyborg

I am Chris Christie would love to know.

Will Trump praise Christie’s sterling record as Virginia’s governor?

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:40:43am

re: #551 jaunte

i continue to believe enough people do and will recognize this

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:40:55am

re: #553 jaunte

It’s only July.

Winter is coming.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:42:33am

re: #539 Targetpractice

At this point, Trump could take a shit on live TV and the media would act like that’s totally normal for a presidential candidate to do.

Trump said he could walk down 5th Avenue shooting people and still get support.

He was right.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:42:39am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:43:21am

re: #399 Sir John Barron

Tom Keane is like 90 years old and a Republican. Was governor of NJ in the 1980’s. Co-chaired the 9-11 commission. Trump is deranged.

tRump was talking to Keane when he saw those Muslims dancing as the towers came down.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:43:25am

re: #556 Dr. Matt

All Charges Dropped Against ‘Journalists’ Who Made Up Planned Parenthood ‘Baby Parts’ Story

Which will translate to wingnuts as “The charges were total bullshit!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:44:06am

re: #558 Dr Lizardo

Trump said he could walk down 5th Avenue shooting people and still get support.

He was right.

There’s so much damned insanity in this country. Whether it’s right wingers who support anything Trump does or lefties who see what Trump does and still insist there’s no difference between her and Trump.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:45:41am

re: #539 Targetpractice

At this point, Trump could take a shit on live TV and the media would act like that’s totally normal for a presidential candidate to do.

He just arguably committed sedition and treason on live TV…and the Putin/Trump story is speeding up.

I was being somewhat fatuous about the #TreasonousTrump tag yesterday. Not now. He just invited a foreign power to engage in espionage against the US for his political benefit and he did in front of the entire world.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:46:23am

re: #561 Targetpractice

Which will translate to wingnuts as “The charges were total bullshit!”

Until they get reindicted and will scream their heads off claiming their rights were violated.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:47:21am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:48:24am

re: #565 jaunte

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Tell me Newt, does Trump’s asshole taste sour or sweet because you sure do have your head up there a lot.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:48:31am

TURNSPEAK

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:48:55am

re: #567 The Vicious Babushka

TURNSPEAK

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You’re one to fucking talk Donald.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:49:03am

re: #566 HappyWarrior

Tell me Newt, does Trump’s asshole taste sour or sweet because you sure do have your head up there a lot.

hey, im eating breakfast over here….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:49:29am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:49:37am

re: #565 jaunte

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Trump is always “joking” when he steps in it.

Right, Newt, you’d give Clinton the same benefit of the doubt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:50:13am
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jimmyvluv4u  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:50:13am

If whoever is responsible for giving the candidates classified briefings legitimately felt anything he told to Trump was in danger of being leaked to a foreign power, would that person have the authority to refuse?

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No Depression  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:50:17am

re: #565 jaunte

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Pretty much no one is falling for that in the replies.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:50:37am

re: #571 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Trump is always “joking” when he steps in it.

Right, Newt, you’d give Clinton the same benefit of the doubt.

newt is saying trump just left off the snark tag

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:50:49am

re: #571 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Trump is always “joking” when he steps in it.

Right, Newt, you’d give Clinton the same benefit of the doubt.

No kidding. Yeah I am just imagining the reaction if Clinton made a “joke” like that. Yeah that would go over swimmingly.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:50:50am

re: #567 The Vicious Babushka

TURNSPEAK

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In an ideal world, the FBI would have a little sit-down with this gibbering yam and explain things to him. Like how encouraging a hostile foreign power to commit cyberespionage against the USA is, you know, against the fucking law and punishable by jail time.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:51:25am

re: #572 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump doesn’t even know what ignorant means, that’s how ignorant he is.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:51:39am

re: #565 jaunte

Newt said that almost 30 minutes AFTER Immortan Don tweeted this:

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:52:00am

re: #576 HappyWarrior

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:52:04am

re: #574 No Depression

Pretty much no one is falling for that in the replies.

maybe there are some things presidential candidates shouldn’t “joke” about.

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Skip Intro  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:52:06am

re: #571 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Trump is always “joking” when he steps in it.

Right, Newt, you’d give Clinton the same benefit of the doubt.

Just like Limbaugh and every other RW trash talker.

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:52:31am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:52:31am

re: #573 jimmyvluv4u

If whoever is responsible for giving the candidates classified briefings legitimately felt anything he told to Trump was in danger of being leaked to a foreign power, would that person have the authority to refuse?

I would seriously consider giving him bogus information. To think that this idiot is running closely for the Presidency of the United States. Come on America, we’re better than this shibird.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:52:39am

re: #579 Lidane

You can tell he’s joking because he didn’t close out the tweet with “Sad!” or “Crazy!” or another one-word exclamation.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:53:02am

re: #579 Lidane

Just a joke! A throwaway line! Not doubled down on with a tweet read by millions!

I think Charles is right: Trump is mentally ill.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:53:29am

re: #580 lawhawk

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The GOP disgusts me. I’ve never liked the Republican Party but I enver thought they;’d stoop this low.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:53:34am

re: #579 Lidane

Immortan Don……..heh.

Frankly, Immortan Joe would make a better GOP Presidential candidate at this point. Hell, I could even see the Lord Humungus.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:53:37am

re: #573 jimmyvluv4u

If whoever is responsible for giving the candidates classified briefings legitimately felt anything he told to Trump was in danger of being leaked to a foreign power, would that person have the authority to refuse?

I believe so.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:53:48am

When one appears to be rich the condition is “eccentricity.”

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:54:18am

re: #584 HappyWarrior

I would seriously consider giving him bogus information. To think that this idiot is running closely for the Presidency of the United States. Come on America, we’re better than this shibird.

That would be hilarious.

Trump, at August press conference: “We must do something about the coup attempt in Elbonia! We must aid the rebels! The Elbonian people have suffered enough under the brutal dictatorship of Hugh Jass!”

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:55:06am

re: #581 Sir John Barron

maybe there are some things presidential candidates shouldn’t “joke” about.

when waiting in the tsa line at the airport, never talk about the “bomb” of a movie you saw on your last flight

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:55:11am

re: #591 A wild WITHAK appeared!

That would be hilarious.

Trump, at August press conference: “We must do something about the coup attempt in Elbonia! We must aid the rebels! The Elbonian people have suffered enough under the brutal dictatorship of Hugh Jass!”

Or replacing ISIS’s members with characters from Archer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:55:41am

heh

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:56:04am

re: #584 HappyWarrior

I would seriously consider giving him bogus information. To think that this idiot is running closely for the Presidency of the United States. Come on America, we’re better than this shibird.

Man, imagine the amount of disinformation that could be distributed that way.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:56:07am

re: #581 Sir John Barron

maybe there are some things presidential candidates shouldn’t “joke” about.

Right, even if Trump is “joking”, there’s certain things oyu shouldn’t joke about. Trump has no respect for the office he’s seeking and neither does Newt.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:56:32am

re: #573 jimmyvluv4u

If whoever is responsible for giving the candidates classified briefings legitimately felt anything he told to Trump was in danger of being leaked to a foreign power, would that person have the authority to refuse?

re: #589 Scottishdragon

I believe so.

Pretty sure the briefings are just Executive Branch courtesies with some advantage to the eventual transition. Never heard of a statutory requirement for them.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:56:44am

re: #565 jaunte

re: #574 No Depression

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:57:07am

Of course, O’Reilly needs to double down on derp:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:57:14am

Half of this I think is Trump just wanting to do something, anything, to detract from the DNC, in particular, Bill Clinton’s speech last night.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:57:30am
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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:58:03am

re: #599 lawhawk

Of course, O’Reilly needs to double down on derp:

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“decently”, he said

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:58:48am

re: #601 The Vicious Babushka

Moscow’s man in Washington.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:58:49am

re: #601 The Vicious Babushka

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7) Has Manafort’s grubby mitts all over it
8) Trump may actually be an unknowing stooge in the whole plan

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:58:54am

re: #599 lawhawk

Of course, O’Reilly needs to double down on derp:

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Oh really Bill? Go fuck yourself with your attempt to rationalize slavery. Of course they fed the slaves and housed them. It was in their fucking interest to do so. They were still slaves, you chodemagnet. Here’s a new rule for white conservatives like Bill, slavery sucked, it was a dark stain on our nation’s history and it’s still a problem in parts of the world today so do NOT fucking rationalize it ever.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:59:17am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:59:23am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:59:53am

re: #603 jaunte

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Moscow’s man in Washington.

A real-life Manchurian Candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:00:02am

re: #607 FormerDirtDart

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Very cowardly headline. Tell the truth Poitico, it came from the oompa loompa’s ugly mouth.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:00:46am

re: #608 Dr Lizardo

A real-life Manchurian Candidate.

More than that, a real life open Manchurian Candidate. This is going to go down as the weirdest election I’ve ever seen until in four years, David Duke wins some primaries running as a Republican.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:01:19am
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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:01:30am

The DNC’s reaction tonight to this presser is going to be interesting.

If they bring up half of what Donald said in this morning’s press conference, they’re going to get savaged on social media for lying because there’s no way that Trump could have said that shit for real!!

It goes without saying that the MSM will be worthless in clarifying any of this.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:01:49am

Seriously considering going for the Twitter check, but have to weigh that against giving info requested.

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iossarian  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:02:16am

re: #607 FormerDirtDart

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Politico: Hillary Clinton Claims Nazis Committed Genocide

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:03:44am

CNN Headline

Julian Assange: ‘A lot more material’ coming on US elections

Does not say if it’s about the DNC. Can they have something on Trump? I know Wikileaks is biased against Hillary, but I also think they like ratfucking for the sake of ratfucking.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:04:02am

re: #611 FormerDirtDart

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It’s a bad dream.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:04:05am

re: #611 FormerDirtDart

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:04:27am

re: #565 jaunte

“The media seems more upset that the woman was raped rather than the fact that she was wearing a short skirt.” - Newt

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:04:28am

re: #615 I Would Prefer Not To

CNN Headline

Julian Assange: ‘A lot more material’ coming on US elections

Does not say it’s about the DNC. Can they have something on Trump? I know Wikileaks is biased against Hillary, but I also think they like ratfucking for the sake of ratfucking.

If they are working for Putin he tells them what to release.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:04:39am

re: #615 I Would Prefer Not To

CNN Headline

Julian Assange: ‘A lot more material’ coming on US elections

Does not say it’s about the DNC. Can they have something on Trump? I know Wikileaks is biased against Hillary, but I also think they like ratfucking for the sake of ratfucking.

I honestly don’t know. Assenge is a little snake though.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:05:24am

re: #617 lawhawk

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It’s always “satire” when Republicans say outrageous shit but when a Democrat actually is joking, it’s time to hang em.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:06:01am

re: #577 Dr Lizardo

In an ideal world, the FBI would have a little sit-down with this gibbering yam and explain things to him. Like how encouraging a hostile foreign power to commit cyberespionage against the USA is, you know, against the fucking law and punishable by jail time.

That can be his first security briefing.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:06:38am

re: #621 HappyWarrior

It’s always “satire” when Republicans say outrageous shit but when a Democrat actually is joking, it’s time to hang em.

or didnt actually say whatever “it” is anyhow

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:07:23am

re: #623 dangerman

or didnt actually say whatever “it” is anyhow

Yeah like Kyl saying planned parenthod did over 90% abortions and then denying it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:08:19am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:08:40am

re: #607 FormerDirtDart

good dog

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:11:21am

re: #488 makeitstop

I’m starting to wonder if Pence is going to resign out of embarrassment.

I would.

Ryan and Pence have already sold their souls; there is no taking it back.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:11:24am

re: #607 FormerDirtDart

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Trump: “ARGLE BARGLE! YUUUGE! SAD!!!”

Clinton Campaign: “This man is totally insane! How can he even be running for president?!”

Media: “Clinton campaign questions Trump’s eligibility for the presidency.”

Yegods

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:11:24am

By the way, as fucked up as the people who support Trump are, I may have even more contempt for the left wing assholes who continue to cry about how Clinton is just as bad and is “bullying” them by bringing how dangerous Trump is. These people are showing the exact mindset that got Hitler appointed Chancellorship in Germany because they made the German SPD out ot be just as bad as Hitler. And before one says Trump’s not Hitler, Hitler wasn’t always Hitler.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:11:57am

Day ending in Y:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:12:12am

re: #628 Targetpractice

Trump: “ARGLE BARGLE! YUUUGE! SAD!!!”

Clinton Campaign: “This man is totally insane! How can he even be running for president?!”

Media: “Clinton campaign questions Trump’s eligibility for the presidency.”

Yegods

Far Left: Why is Clinton scaring us into voting for her by bringing up Trump, it’s not far, I want my Bernie pony!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:12:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:12:32am

re: #630 lawhawk

Day ending in Y:

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Oh that’s just fucking perfect.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:13:03am

Tom Keene’s record? Actually, it’s Tommy, and I have a few of his records.

Nothing Can Change You

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:15:14am
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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:15:18am

* Looks at #TreasonousTrump hashtag*
Oh my, is it possible I actually started a trend? o.O

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:15:33am

Katy Tur mentioning Trump does these pressers a lot. Well, fuck! I’d do them all the time if I had no fear of repercussions! He knows he gets to say whatever the fuck he wants and the media will shrug.

And if Hillary had a press conference, they’d have line by line parsing of everything she said.

Gah!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:15:58am

re: #636 Archangelus

* Looks at #TreasonousTrump *
Oh my, is it possible I actually started a trend? o.O

I like it, it sounds like one of his own nicknames and it’s actually accurate about him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:16:17am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:16:56am

re: #511 Eclectic Cyborg

So serious question: Who, if any person or group, has the power to disqualify Trump from running for President?

The voters and the electoral college

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:17:26am

re: #637 Jenner7

Katy Tur mentioning Trump does these pressers a lot. Well, fuck! I’d do them all the time if I had no fear of repercussions! He knows he gets to say whatever the fuck he wants and the media will shrug.

And if Hillary had a press conference, they’d have line by line parsing of everything she said.

Gah!

Trump: “I wish Russia would hack my opponent’s emails and share them with us! I think we should be selling our allies to Russia while shitting on the NATO treaty. Oh, and I think the Hillary should giving a press conference!”

Media: “Yeah, why won’t Hillary do a press conference? What’s she got to hide!?”

Clinton: “….seriously?”

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:17:29am

I mean, just look at some of the headlines: Clinton team says Trump is encouraging Russia to hack us.

Good grief!

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:17:53am

The Trump supporters have swarmed The Atlantic again.
Paraphrasing (mostly)
Hurrhurrhurr you liberals are scared. Trump is scoring hits!

The DNC wrote those emails and its time to be friends with Russia.

The commies let the dems down and they have never forgiven Russia for that.

Is The Atlantic writing for Hillary now?

Dumb liberals can’t take a joke.

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:18:50am

re: #638 HappyWarrior

I like it, it sounds like one of his own nicknames and it’s actually accurate about him.

That’s pretty much why I started using it a while back (I still like to refer to him as Smallhands McRoadkillhair, but that’s too long at times)… seems that it’s exploded in the past day…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:19:32am

re: #644 Archangelus

That’s pretty much why I started using it a while back (I still like to refer to him as Smallhands McRoadkillhair, but that’s too long at times)… seems that it’s exploded in the past day…

Well done then.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:20:05am

re: #642 Jenner7

I mean, just look at some of the headlines: Clinton team says Trump is encouraging Russia to hack us.

Good grief!

our failed media experiment has failed.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:20:21am

re: #531 Eclectic Cyborg

Interesting theory. Makes the choice of Pence seem a bit odd though.

Why? Pence is a perfectly generic Republican. He’ll sign any bill Ryan and McConnell can get through Congress.

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iossarian  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:20:22am

re: #643 Scottishdragon

If nothing else maybe these 16 months of unending bullshit will boost the cause of moderated comment sections.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:21:59am

re: #643 Scottishdragon

The Trump supporters have swarmed The Atlantic again.
Paraphrasing (mostly)
Hurrhurrhurr you liberals are scared. Trump is scoring hits!

The DNC wrote those emails and its time to be friends with Russia.

The commies let the dems down and they have never forgiven Russia for that.

Is The Atlantic writing for Hillary now?

Dumb liberals can’t take a joke.

Is their English a bit stilted or are they genuine mouth breathers?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:22:30am

re: #549 Lidane

Serious question — what are the chances of Mike Pence resigning from the ticket and going back to Indiana to finish out his term in office?

I’d say close to zero.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:22:38am

re: #630 lawhawk

Day ending in Y:

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Barricaded in a senior center and not active. Hmmm.

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:23:48am

When I first used the TreasonousTrump hashtag thingy, it was just my post and I was worried that i might have crossed a line and might get in trouble (still newish to Twitter)… Now that I’m seeing 140 new TreasonousTrump results in under 2 minutes, breathing much easier…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:24:25am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:26:34am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:28:13am

Is there a #dumptrump tag yet?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:28:36am
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No Depression  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:28:50am

re: #649 Barefoot Grin

Is their English a bit stilted or are they genuine mouth breathers?

Maybe English isn’t their first language.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:31:15am

re: #657 No Depression

Maybe English isn’t their first language.

They do tend to show up in the strangest places. They have a now long and abiding interest in Matt Taibbi articles at Rolling Stone, too.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:33:08am

re: #656 FormerDirtDart

I’d argue that he violated multiple provisions of the US Code, and skirted treason.

law.cornell.edu

In particular, recruiting for service against the US (asking the Russians to attack US govt computers). Or seditious conspiracy, in attacking US govt computers.

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makeitstop  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:33:28am

re: #658 Barefoot Grin

They do tend to show up in the strangest places. They have a now long and abiding interest in Matt Taibbi articles at Rolling Stone, too.

See my earlier comment about a swarm of Trump supporters on Twisted Sister’s Facebook page.

I’m giving a long fucking side eye to every single Trump supporter I see, and wondering is they’re from around here…

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:34:41am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:35:48am

re: #661 Stanley Sea

when you’ve lost Amanda Carpenter…

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:37:17am

Re: the “it was just a joke” defense…

There are some things you just don’t joke about, even if you are a reality TV star masquerading as a presidential candidate.

Inviting treason against the country is one.

Inviting, or even suggesting, that harm be done to the president or to a presidential candidate will get you a nice visit from the Secret Service.

I wonder what Trump would think about the “it was just a joke” defense in that case.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:38:20am

re: #660 makeitstop

People on Facebook aren’t real unless you know them personally. That platform was taken over by robots and paid interlopers long, long ago.

Twitter is much the same.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:38:37am
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Teukka  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:38:43am

re: #663 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Re: the “it was just a joke” defense…

There are some things you just don’t joke about, even if you are a reality TV star masquerading as a presidential candidate.

Inviting treason against the country is one.

Inviting, or even suggesting, that harm be done to the president or to a presidential candidate will get you a nice visit from the Secret Service.

I wonder what Trump would think about the “it was just a joke” defense in that case.

$.02 on Trump managing to stoop lower before the USSS visit.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:38:48am

And this is Drudge’s news. This is him trying to cover for how Trump just called on Russia to attack US computers for his political benefit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:39:17am

re: #653 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ms Somoza has a website. She is a remarkable young woman.
anastasiasomoza.com

One of our great-grandsons has CP. It was diagnosed when he was born six years ago and treatment began immediately (thank you Obamacare!). Intervention and therapies continue.

Today Charlie is a bright, bubbly and very active child looking forward to starting first grade.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:40:13am

I wonder if Charles is working on a post about Trump’s insane presser this morning… the dead thread is getting kinda long.. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:41:03am

re: #667 lawhawk

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And this is Drudge’s news. This is him trying to cover for how Trump just called on Russia to attack US computers for his political benefit.

I wouldn’t have been as nice as Podesta was. What the hell should Podesta say to O’Keefe “Hey asshole who likes to manufacture bullshit for a living, how much is Thiel paying for this ratfuck?”

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:41:35am

Sigh, if you think US media is bad, the last bit of “news” from both of Israel’s leading websites in Hebrew have the same article from yesterday, about how “Pro-Palestinian Democratic Protesters burned Israeli flags at the DNC convention”…

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:42:19am

die-hard berners:

did you see trump this morning? this is serious. no third party bs, how can you not give a full 100% vote to clinton?

“tpp”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:42:23am

re: #669 lawhawk

I wonder if Charles is working on a post about Trump’s insane presser this morning… the dead thread is getting kinda long.. :)

It must be time for me to spend 20 minutes writing a long post full of insight and humor!

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:42:25am
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451_Montag  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:43:42am

Talking head on CNN actually used the word treason in relation to Poco-cojines comment.

I am starting to think that the media are actually going to doing its job. Never forget if the Trumpocalypse comes to pass historians are going to start pointing fingers at them as well.

Naturally optimistic me!

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:44:47am

re: #675 451_Montag

I am starting to think that the media are actually going to doing its job.

as they are dragged into it kicking and screaming all the way

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electrotek  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:44:57am

Riddle me this:

Why do Hungarians and right-wingers in general that support Viktor Orban about migrants have little to say when Hungarians themselves have no problem migrating to other EU nations? You know, in search of the same thing these migrants want: economic opportunity?

Who are they to dictate that in their own turf?

If Trump wins, and Putin invades Hungary again, in a worse fashion than 1956, maybe we should shut off all entry for Hungarian refugees to give them a taste of their own medicine?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:45:09am

re: #672 dangerman

die-hard berners:

did you see trump this morning? this is serious. no third party bs, how can you not give a full 100% vote to clinton?

“tpp”

They still don’t. This is even after Bernie himself has strongly endorsed Clinton. Fuck them. Not every person who supported Bernie but the diehard Berners who continue to whine about how woe is Bernie because Clinton is the nominee. Got news for you guys, you don’t always win in politics. Clinton of all people fucking knows that so what the fuck makes you so special that we have to appease your every last demand for a party you don’t even like associating with.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:45:13am

re: #675 451_Montag

Talking head on CNN actually used the word treason in relation to Poco-cojines comment.

I am starting to think that the media are actually going to doing its job. Never forget if the Trumpocalypse comes to pass historians are going to start pointing fingers at them as well.

Naturally optimistic me!

I believe that was Senator Chris Murphy.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:46:03am

re: #649 Barefoot Grin

Is their English a bit stilted or are they genuine mouth breathers?

Some of those are verbatim.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:46:28am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:46:43am

re: #679 Stanley Sea

I believe that was Senator Chris Murphy.

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Murphy’s good.

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:46:51am

re: #614 iossarian

Politico: Hillary Clinton Claims Nazis Committed Genocide

Had to steal it, thx :)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:48:47am

re: #672 dangerman

die-hard berners:

did you see trump this morning? this is serious. no third party bs, how can you not give a full 100% vote to clinton?

“tpp”

“She’s just like him!”

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:48:58am

Gina • 4 minutes ago

I wondered what Trump was going to do to get back into the front of the news cycle. The Democrats keep handing him these gifts.

The Russians should be involved in our election. We should be studying their success with the flat tax and why their happiness rating is at record highs while ours is falling

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:50:21am

re: #672 dangerman

die-hard berners:

did you see trump this morning? this is serious. no third party bs, how can you not give a full 100% vote to clinton?

“tpp”

what is TPP?

Berner: Uh….

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:50:45am

re: #672 dangerman

die-hard berners:

did you see trump this morning? this is serious. no third party bs, how can you not give a full 100% vote to clinton?

“tpp”

Ever notice how some people, the more you try to get them to change, the more defensive they become about staying the same?

I would suggest that we now just ignore the busters. They’re a small group (the group actually got smaller after Sanders called the nomination for Clinton) and will get smaller.

Instead, yell at the media and Trump.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:50:49am

They should produce a version for dumpster fires.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:50:53am

re: #681 FormerDirtDart

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Stealing that:

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:51:01am

re: #436 stpaulbear

He’s trying to make tonight’s convention be all about himself. I hope that speakers rewrite their speeches to combat all of his bullshit but still don’t mention him by name. He’d explode.

I am sure that Michelle Obama not mentioning his name was a calculated maneuver. I assume (and hope) that the not mentioning trend continues, too.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:51:03am

re: #685 Scottishdragon

I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s real or one of the paid pro-Trump trolls that Russia is pushing.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:51:35am

re: #442 Jenner7

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Do you mind if she finishes her convention first? Pretty sure she’s giving a big speech tomorrow night, maybe she can take your questions on Friday, or over the weekend, or on Monday?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:51:39am

re: #678 HappyWarrior

They still don’t. This is even after Bernie himself has strongly endorsed Clinton. Fuck them. Not every person who supported Bernie but the diehard Berners who continue to whine about how woe is Bernie because Clinton is the nominee. Got news for you guys, you don’t always win in politics. Clinton of all people fucking knows that so what the fuck makes you so special that we have to appease your every last demand for a party you don’t even like associating with.

Berners: We Want Bernie!!!

Sanders endorsed Clinton

Berners: We wont take commands!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:51:57am

re: #686 Sir John Barron

what is TPP?

Berner: Uh….

TPP is this election’s Iraq War Resolution. The voting to judge a candidate’s total worth on. In 2024, they will have a new one.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:52:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:52:50am

re: #681 FormerDirtDart

I like this one better.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:53:33am

re: #695 FormerDirtDart

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Ratfucking Supreme.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:53:36am

re: #693 Sir John Barron

Berners: We Want Bernie!!!

Sanders endorsed Clinton

Berners: We wont take commands!!!!!!

I’ve had it to here with their persecution bullshit about how progressives are being persecuted by the DNC. You guys aren’t progressives or liberals. You’re leftist authoritarians who want to hijack a party you never have wanted to commit to or even have contempt for so yeah teh DNC has every right not to want you at their convention.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:53:49am

re: #670 HappyWarrior

That should be the actual standard reply anyone gives this smarmy shitmuffin. Let him play that over and over in a half ass edited loop. I’d almost give someone actual money to dress up like a pimp and say it to him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:54:16am

re: #695 FormerDirtDart

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Nearly 8 years after the ACORN bullshit and Jimmy still doesn’t have a real job.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:55:44am

re: #699 A Mom Anon

That should be the actual standard reply anyone gives this smarmy shitmuffin. Let him play that over and over in a half ass edited loop. I’d almost give someone actual money to dress up like a pimp and say it to him.

You have no idea how much it pisses me off that he lives pretty well for himself while people on the spectrum like me, your son, and thousands of others have to struggle to find well paying work for our skill set.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:55:59am

re: #684 GlutenFreeJesus

“She’s just like him!”

or worse, tpp is more dangerous than anything trump has said

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:57:01am

re: #702 dangerman

or worse, tpp is more dangerous than anything trump has said

That they still say this even after all this just amazes me. I know it’s easy to want to believe that they’re right wing agent provacteurs but a lot of them are genuinely left wing but that fucked up in the head.

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Alephnaught  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:57:16am

re: #685 Scottishdragon

Hm. Did you answer: “If you like Russia so much, why don’t you go live there?”

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:57:18am

Never been so tempted to reply “You’re welcome”… xD

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:57:29am

re: #681 FormerDirtDart

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If trump thought he was going to be able to get rid of the Russian stench by strongly saying he isn’t funded by them, he failed bigly.

SAD

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:57:36am

re: #474 Timothy Watson

So much renegotiating, you’re going to be sick of renegotiating.

tRump really mean reneging, but that word is way out of his vocabulary range.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:57:53am

This is the GOP / right wing response: diversion. Try to push the story elsewhere.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:58:22am

Thomas Tutone • 11 minutes ago

Smack that old nag down, smack that old nag down…

Hillary Rotten Clinton, smack that old nag down!

CPT • 18 minutes ago

Count this a complete success. In the middle of the Democratic National Convention, Trump got the New York Times to run a front-page story about Hillary’s deleted emails containing top secret information and getting hacked by foreign governments.
Trump’s playing chess, while everyone else is playing checkers.

qaz zaq • 2 minutes ago

When Russia was Communist the US constantly exposed their leader’s corruption and faults. We should welcome their efforts to expose the “Democratic” Party’s corruption.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:58:29am

re: #479 Decatur Deb

I am sorry that I have but one upding for that one. Brilliant.

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:58:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:59:01am

re: #636 Archangelus

* Looks at #TreasonousTrump *
Oh my, is it possible I actually started a trend? o.O

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:59:21am

re: #701 HappyWarrior

You have no idea how much it pisses me off that he lives pretty well for himself while people on the spectrum like me, your son, and thousands of others have to struggle to find well paying work for our skill set.

it’s pt barnum applied in a new direction

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:59:31am

Cage the Elephant- Right Before My Eyes (Lyrics)
This song sums up how I’ve been feeling ever since Trump became the GOP favorite.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:00:11am

re: #709 Scottishdragon

Just SMDH here.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:00:19am

re: #695 FormerDirtDart

So what kind of shit is the little scumbag useless sack of shit saying in these interviews? I’d like to know what he’s up to. He’s had success in the past ruining people’s lives, I really hope someone is keeping an eye on him.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:00:20am

re: #706 Stanley Sea

If trump thought he was going to be able to get rid of the Russian stench by strongly saying he isn’t funded by them, he failed bigly.

SAD

The media really needs to its damn job and start digging into his financials, pronto.

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dangerman  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:00:40am

re: #707 Le Lapin Tueur

tRump really mean reneging, but that word is way out of his vocabulary range.

danmed autocorrect - guess we’ll have to change our foreign policy now

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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:01:32am

re: #703 HappyWarrior

That they still say this even after all this just amazes me. I know it’s easy to want to believe that they’re right wing agent provacteurs but a lot of them are genuinely left wing but that fucked up in the head.

TPP is so evil one dare not spell it out.

//

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:01:33am

re: #704 Alephnaught

Hm. Did you answer: “If you like Russia so much, why don’t you go live there?”

The Trump treason trolling is so heavy at The Atlantic I gave up. There is literally nothing that will convince these people to let go of him. Half of America rates as a bigger enemy to them that the intelligence services of fucking Vlad Putin.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:01:48am

re: #716 A Mom Anon

So what kind of shit is the little scumbag useless sack of shit saying in these interviews? I’d like to know what he’s up to. He’s had success in the past ruining people’s lives, I really hope someone is keeping an eye on him.

I don’t condone violence at all but I wouldn’t be upset if someone decked him. He specializes in ruining people’s lives for his wealthy right wing patrons.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:01:51am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:02:34am

re: #709 Scottishdragon

Will take great pleasure in seeing these people crying Trump tears in November.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:03:43am

re: #723 Sir John Barron

Will take great pleasure in seeing these people crying Trump tears in November.

They won’t give up. I don’t think Trump will concede the election if he loses and will file lawsuits to keep the outrage ginned up for months.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:04:24am

re: #723 Sir John Barron

Will take great pleasure in seeing these people crying Trump tears in November.

Huge, bitter tears! The best tears!

726
Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:05:05am

Holy crap, it is trending! o.O

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:05:33am

re: #725 Blind Frog Belly White

Huge, bitter tears! The best tears!

Smelling somewhat of vodka.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:05:50am

re: #726 Archangelus

Holy crap, it is trending! o.O

Embedded Image

Once again, good job.

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Archangelus  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:06:35am

re: #728 HappyWarrior

Once again, good job.

Thanks, though I honestly don’t know whether to cheer at the top of my voice or hider under a rock… xD

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:07:02am

Democrats beat Republicans in U.S. television ratings, according to Nielsen data released on Tuesday for the first night of the Democratic National Convention.

An estimated 26 million people watched Monday evening between 10 p.m. to 11:30 p.m. Eastern time, when First Lady Michelle Obama and Senator Bernie Sanders were among the key speakers, Nielsen said. The data represents people watching across seven broadcast and cable TV networks.

The total is about three million more TV eyes than for the first night of the Republican convention last week when White House contender Donald Trump’s wife Melania was the keynote speaker.

All in all, some 23 million Americans watched the first night of the Republican convention last week— in line with the audience for the 2012 gathering. Trump’s big acceptance speech on Thursday night last week, however, failed to deliver the record audiences many TV executives had been expecting.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:07:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:08:19am

I remember when I knew conservatives that shat on the Anti-Vietnam War protesters because the North Vietnamese thought it was a good thing to have American people oppoesd to the war. No actual collusion between anti-war protesters and Hanoi, just protests but now we have a Republican candidate who actually wants a foreign power to hack into our government and these people are either silent or cheering it on. Unbelievable dudes. I don’t even know what ot believe anymore.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:11:24am

I didn’t know until last night that she’s a Native American.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:14:42am

Rod Dreher:

Trump has a Point on Russia Hack

Of course.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:14:47am

re: #733 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

It’s things like that are why I laugh when the far left is saying the Democratic Party isn’t progressive. The word progressive isn’t merely political. It’s how we live our lives. It can be Tim Kaine and his father in law sending their children to mostly African-American schools. It can be the clinching votes for Clinton being spoken in Lakota. And it can even be little things we do in our daily lives. The far left thinks appeasing them is progressivism, it’s not, it’s giving into bullies.

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Franklin  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:14:57am

Finally watching the Pres. Clinton speech. My Dog can that man talk.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:15:28am

re: #734 Scottishdragon

Rod Dreher:

Of course.

Yes, I’m sure Rod would be saying the exact same thing if Obama or Clinton said this if they begged Russia to hack the RNC.

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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:15:30am

re: #546 whitebeach

Is there no limit to your perverse craving to torture the rest of us?

Available bandwidth.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:16:19am

re: #735 HappyWarrior

I give you sir, One Large Truckload of Updings and an Intenet Gold Medal.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:19:38am

New thread.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:19:44am

re: #739 A Mom Anon

I give you sir, One Large Truckload of Updings and an Intenet Gold Medal.

Progressivism is so much more than a platform. This week the Democratic Party has truly shown its greatest gift and that’s that it’s open to people of all walks of life with a similiar set of principles and by extension that’s a microcosm of what our country is all about.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:22:30am

re: #511 Eclectic Cyborg

So serious question: Who, if any person or group, has the power to disqualify Trump from running for President?

Here’s who could disqualify him once he’s in office:

Amendment 25:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.[3]

In other words, the VP and cabinet can decide “this lunatic is incapable. He’s unfit. Call it mental/emotional/intellectual disability”. If the President disputes it, Congress can vote to toss him, without needing an impeachment trial.

In 1987, some of Reagan’s staff considered doing this.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2016 • 12:37:57pm

re: #566 HappyWarrior

Tell me Newt, does Trump’s asshole taste sour or sweet because you sure do have your head up there a lot.

Taco bowl salsa

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2016 • 12:42:43pm

re: #592 dangerman

when waiting in the tsa line at the airport, never talk about the “bomb” of a movie you saw on your last flight

You joke, but I have a friend facing charges (jail time charges) for making a stupid joking remark in a Walmart about a bomb.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 27, 2016 • 12:49:24pm

re: #605 HappyWarrior

Oh really Bill? Go fuck yourself with your attempt to rationalize slavery. Of course they fed the slaves and housed them. It was in their fucking interest to do so. They were still slaves, you chodemagnet. Here’s a new rule for white conservatives like Bill, slavery sucked, it was a dark stain on our nation’s history and it’s still a problem in parts of the world today so do NOT fucking rationalize it ever.

They fed and housed the cattle too.

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Lancelot Link  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:23:12am

re: #731 lawhawk

There’s someone who won’t be writing for the Intercept much longer.


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