1
Frankie Five Angels  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:51:39pm

Well done, Mr. President. Because of you, I ran from the Republicans, and I am a better man for it.

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bratwurst  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:52:32pm

Wish I could have heard what he said to her.

In a career full of memorable speeches, the POTUS just topped himself.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:53:31pm

From downstairs, but can’t be left there…

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blueraven  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:53:55pm

Steve Schmidt, MSNBC said that was the most extraordinary speech he has ever heard. Ever. By anyone.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:53:56pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:54:37pm

Lovely photo. Looking forward to Secretary Clinton’s inauguration. May actually get up off my butt and watch it in person. It will be so historic as our first Black President turns over the White House to the first woman President. Democrats should be proud about how inclusive our Party is.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:54:53pm

Erick, Son of Erick still crying on his Twitter feed:

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:55:54pm

re: #7 Lidane

Erick, Son of Erick still crying on his Twitter feed:

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I think he’s starting to realize that he’s on the wrong side of history, and is less than happy about that fact.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:56:06pm

That was a wonderful speech. It may be the wine talking, but maybe the best we’ve seen from Obama.

I’m excited for tomorrow night.

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451_Montag  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:56:10pm

I love how this convention is taking the word patriot back. About time

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:56:46pm

re: #7 Lidane

Erick, Son of Erick still crying on his Twitter feed:

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Maybe the President doesn’t divide you like you think Erick and it’s your party that does that? You’re never too old to seriously evaluate what you’ve been believing.

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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:56:46pm

Welp, that was a fucking slam dunk of a speech.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:56:56pm

re: #1 Frankie Five Angels

Well done, Mr. President. Because of you, I ran from the Republicans, and I am a better man for it.

LGF is like our own little support group…

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:57:20pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:57:38pm

After all the doom and gloom of the day, this was the breath of fresh air I needed. The hope, the dream that we’re all fighting for.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:57:52pm
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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:57:56pm

More GOP tears:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:58:07pm
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:58:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:58:33pm

re: #13 A wild WITHAK appeared!

LGF is like our own little support group…

It amazes me how many Lizards have that story. I kind of envy you guys. I always was a pretty liberal guy so supporting Obama came pretty natural to me. It takes a lot of guts to look at your worldview and admit that you were wrong.

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Anymouse  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:58:41pm

“Don’t boo, vote!” and the video of the hug at the end aired on both CTV and CBC here in Canada.

I suspect those will be news around the world by morning.

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No Depression  Jul 27, 2016 • 8:59:17pm

re: #7 Lidane

Erick, Son of Erick still crying on his Twitter feed:

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I hate Erick Erickson’s guts, but I’ve begrudgingly gained some respect for him here. He has far more integrity than your typical conservative these days.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:00:02pm

OMG…Bill Maher right now

“The GOP handcuffed itself to a dead hooker”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:00:10pm

re: #17 Lidane

More GOP tears:

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Actually Reagan stole FDR’s optimism if you actually seriously want to make optimism and sunnienss something that should be trademarked by a political party.*
* I don’t acutally believe that Reagan “stole” it. Though no doubt Reagan was influenced by FDR since Reagan even admitted that a little.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:00:17pm

re: #7 Lidane

Erick, Son of Erick still crying on his Twitter feed:

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Give him credit. He’s showing integrity.

It’s sinking in deep, how much the Republicans have sold us a bill of goods in the last thirty years.

I understand it was their job at the convention this week to get up there and make a sale, but both Billy C and Obama have made me feel a twinge of goodness about the country again, which is something I haven’t felt in a long, long time.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:00:37pm

re: #14 MsJ

Donald Trump’s vision of America…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:00:53pm

re: #22 No Depression

I hate Erick Erickson’s guts, but I’ve begrudgingly gained some respect for him here. He has far more integrity than your typical conservative these days.

I think he really does feel some internal conflict about what he’s been believing all these years.

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prairiefire  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:00:54pm

re: #23 Scottishdragon

OMG…Bill Maher right now

Haaa…ha!! Omg

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:02:10pm

re: #28 prairiefire

Haaa…ha!! Omg

I was laughing so hard I started wheezing. Nice!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:02:12pm

re: #22 No Depression

I hate Erick Erickson’s guts, but I’ve begrudgingly gained some respect for him here. He has far more integrity than your typical conservative these days.

Same with guys like George Will and David Brooks. For all they’ve done to create the conditions that led to the rise of Trump, at least they see things for how they are now.

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No Depression  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:02:27pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

I think he really does feel some internal conflict about what he’s been believing all these years.

Oh, definitely. I’ve been there before, so I can empathize with him a little bit here.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:03:31pm
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jaunte  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:03:32pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:03:37pm
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whitebeach  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:03:52pm

The one truly great president of my life (just missed FDR).

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:04:44pm

re: #8 Bill and Opus for 2016!

I think he’s starting to realize that he’s on the wrong side of history, and is less than happy about that fact.

Perhaps he’ll come over to the good side like John Cole and Charles Johnson. Would be shocking but could happen.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:05:31pm

re: #33 jaunte

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Compare and contrast. Oh and by the way, Ben you guys loved it when Reagan was talking optimistic when there were embassy workers kidnapped in Tehran (Not knocking Reagan for doing that at all by the way) but seriously shut the fuck up. Right wingers like you have told us that us liberals are negative nancies for years and we actually have a convention that shows we’re optimistic for our nation’s future.

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Anymouse  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:05:41pm

re: #22 No Depression

I hate Erick Erickson’s guts, but I’ve begrudgingly gained some respect for him here. He has far more integrity than your typical conservative these days.

I’m not terribly impressed - and I suspect he’ll still pull the lever for the guy with the (R) after his name.

My senator (Ben Sasse, R-Nebr.) has been warning about Trump since a February post on Faceplant, which was reprinted in every newspaper in the state. (I am really hoping Mrs. Clinton can pull two districts to Mr. Obama’s one in 2012, as that would give the Dems four of our five electoral votes.)

Senator Sasse has been catching unending guff on Facebook and in visits with constituents ever since February, and has not backed down from his position that Mr. Trump is undignified and unworthy of the office of President. While Sen. Sasse says he will not vote for Mrs. Clinton, he consistently says he cannot vote for Mr. Trump.

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JasonA  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:06:24pm

re: #30 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Same with guys like George Will and David Brooks. For all they’ve done to create the conditions that led to the rise of Trump, at least they see things for how they are now.

Yet can’t quite seem to understand just how such a thing could have happened…

Let’s not give them too much credit.

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Anymouse  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:07:35pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Compare and contrast. Oh and by the way, Ben you guys loved it when Reagan was talking optimistic when there were embassy workers kidnapped in Tehran (Not knocking Reagan for doing that at all by the way) but seriously shut the fuck up. Right wingers like you have told us that us liberals are negative nancies for years and we actually have a convention that shows we’re optimistic for our nation’s future.

I got to go from a training mission in the Caribbean Sea on the USS America (CV-66) to Lebanon to help with the evacuation of the US Marines from Beirut. As I recall, the GOP and President Reagan made a big deal about “not running from terrorists.” They still do.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:07:39pm

re: #39 JasonA

Yet can’t quite seem to understand just how such a thing could have happened…

Let’s not give them too much credit.

Don’t worry, I’m not. It’s just nice to see that not quite all of the lemmings are willing to go over the cliff.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:07:50pm

re: #39 JasonA

Yet can’t quite seem to understand just how such a thing could have happened…

Let’s not give them too much credit.

This is also true. Rank and file people who have realized this I do have a little more respect for since they weren’t you know pushing it through the media or in elected office but I do mean it if Erickson’s seriously having an internal conflict about what his ideology really is and means, I don’t have a problem with it.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:08:32pm

re: #30 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Same with guys like George Will and David Brooks. For all they’ve done to create the conditions that led to the rise of Trump, at least they see things for how they are now.

At the moment. Don’t think they’re seeing clearly. It’s momentary.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:09:26pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:09:29pm

The GOP has become the party of despair, the party that has consciously chosen to run on a platform of irredentist neo-Confederate white resentment and paranoia. This attitude is now on full and open display and stands in stark contrast to the optimism of the Democratic Party.

Americans in general abhor negativity. If the GOP continues down this gloomy path, their fate is sealed: They will gradually lose their strength and sense of purpose and be consumed by their own anger.

Trump is the culmination of all this. And (hopefully) his defeat will serve as a wake-up call for the rest of the GOP that - to quote a former Republican VP - being “nattering nabobs of negativism” isn’t going to cut the mustard.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:09:31pm

Reflecting on the last two nights of big speeches, I come back to two points:

1. The tweet from last night, in which the poster said they hoped that somebody would talk about them, the way Bill C. talked about Hillary.

2. Obama and Reagan on the same stage… I wonder how that would have gone. Republicans have a false memory of a dead man. Obama just whipped out some of that Reagan patriotic positivity in a bottle, live on stage.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:10:49pm

re: #40 Anymouse

I got to go from a training mission in the Caribbean Sea on the USS America (CV-66) to Lebanon to help with the evacuation of the US Marines from Beirut. As I recall, the GOP and President Reagan made a big deal about “not running from terrorists.” They still do.

Yeah that one never makes the stump. It’s pretty damn funny to see Shapiro whining that the Democrats are too happy about our country.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:11:14pm

re: #44 Ziggy_TARDIS

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You’re a fucking moron Donald.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:11:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:11:55pm

re: #46 Pawn of the Oppressor

Reflecting on the last two nights of big speeches, I come back to two points:

1. The tweet from last night, in which the poster said they hoped that somebody would talk about them, the way Bill C. talked about Hillary.

2. Obama and Reagan on the same stage… I wonder how that would have gone. Republicans have a false memory of a dead man. Obama just whipped out some of that Reagan patriotic positivity in a bottle, live on stage.

He out-Reaganed the Republicans. He’s honestly been doing it for a while and I think it’s hilarious.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:12:06pm

re: #17 Lidane

More GOP tears:

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JasonA  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:12:13pm
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calochortus  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:12:30pm

Quite an evening.
Hasta mañana, all.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:13:03pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

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Erick, frankly your party lost the ability to make that kind of speech when your party started scapegoating gay people, immigrants, etc. It was impossible to make with Turmp but let’s be honest, it would have been shallow if Kasich, Rubio, or Cruz made it too.

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electrotek  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:13:36pm
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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:14:11pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:14:33pm
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:14:43pm

re: #40 Anymouse

I got to go from a training mission in the Caribbean Sea on the USS America (CV-66) to Lebanon to help with the evacuation of the US Marines from Beirut. As I recall, the GOP and President Reagan made a big deal about “not running from terrorists.” They still do.

My ex was on the USS Kennedy. I took a for families trip from Va. Beach to Jacksonville and back.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:15:15pm

re: #51 Belafon

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I expect the FNC talking point will be that Obama and what Melania did was the same thing even though stealing someone’s words and having the same tone are two radically different things. And besides, Reagan patterned his optimism after FDR and the Shining City on the Hill was first referenced by JFK who in turn got it from John Wintrhop who in turn got it form The Bible.

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:15:29pm

SNL Weekend update.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:15:32pm

Obama should have literally asked America to turn away from the Dark Side. That’s the only way he could have made that speech better.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:15:50pm

I’m so glad I don’t write about politics in the United States for a living right about now.

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Anymouse  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:16:16pm

News article on now about a man washing his car in Detroit, when a masked robber came up and demanded his car keys, pointing a pistol at him.

The car owner put the washing wand on high and drove him off. The police are looking for the robber now (probably embarrassed that he was driven off with a car wash wand when he had a gun).

A good guy with a power washer… .

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:16:41pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:17:52pm

re: #63 Anymouse

Depending on how high the pressure gets, those things are fucking dangerous.

Fun to play with! But dangerous.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:18:02pm

I really hope Alouette sees this!

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:18:08pm

SNL right now

Bernie supporters!!! Why are you so sad? You still get to be white!

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:18:22pm

re: #52 JasonA

Who is that? That’s the best!!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:18:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:18:46pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

I really hope Alouette sees this!

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Andy makes a great point. There’s so much he has accomplished.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:18:55pm

Some serious shade going on here…

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JasonA  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:18:56pm

re: #68 MsJ

Who is that? That’s the best!!

I have no idea! Just something I stumbled upon on Twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:20:47pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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It really is telling. So many of the Democratic speakers have given shout outs to Republicans, living Republicans at that. But yet the Republican party and their talking heads will tell us that the President and his party are divisive not the Republicans. Sure, sometimes the Republicans will sometimes offer a nice word about FDR or JFK who are long deceased and are icons but they’ll never do what we see Democrats do.

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JasonA  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:22:10pm

I need to get some sleep to prepare myself for what comes out of the Republican candidate’s mouth tomorrow.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:22:15pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

It really is telling. So many of the Democratic speakers have given shout outs to Republicans, living Republicans at that. But yet the Republican party and their talking heads will tell us that the President and his party are divisive not the Republicans. Sure, sometimes the Republicans will sometimes offer a nice word about FDR or JFK who are long deceased and are icons but they’ll never do what we see Democrats do.

Their base won’t allow it.

Which is a somewhat depressing truth that will have to be dealt with, but tonight I am going to bask in optimism and hope.

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JasonA  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:23:26pm

Oh lookee, Trump retweeted a racist. And it’s a day that ends in “y” !!

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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:23:40pm

re: #30 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Same with guys like George Will and David Brooks. For all they’ve done to create the conditions that led to the rise of Trump, at least they see things for how they are now.

And yet Brooks played the Magical Balance Fairy by noting the number of grieving women in the two conventions (thus tacitly comparing: the poor woman, estranged from her son for years {and who died in Banghai}, who in her grief and guilt blamed Hillary for her son’s death; and the woman who lost her son in Afghanistan and then decided to make a difference locally and run for office in her small town to help improve the education of the town’s children).

His false equivalence ploy was just a little reprehensible and a whole lot desperate.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:24:19pm

re: #75 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Their base won’t allow it.

Which is a somewhat depressing truth that will have to be dealt with, but tonight I am going to bask in optimism and hope.

Well, it’s their party. It’s up to them to fix it. I have a lot of optimism and hope because I’ve seen a party this week that speaks for our country as it actually is not a mythological portrait but a reality.

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JasonA  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:25:08pm

Brilliant.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:25:09pm

re: #76 JasonA

Oh lookee, Trump retweeted a racist. And it’s a day that ends in “y” !!

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He sure knows how to pick some winners to RT.

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:25:52pm

re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Some serious shade going on here…

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Where did that come from?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:26:03pm

re: #79 JasonA

Brilliant.

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Even Richard Nixon had soul.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:26:21pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Well, it’s their party. It’s up to them to fix it. I have a lot of optimism and hope because I’ve seen a party this week that speaks for our country as it actually is not a mythological portrait but a reality.

I don’t think we have to fix it. I think we do have to deal with the reality that there are a non-trivial number of people who are willing to support Trump, so what are the factors that are going into this and how can we address them to hopefully minimize that support, both now and in the future.

I’m not going to write it all off, not yet.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:26:52pm

re: #23 Scottishdragon

OMG…Bill Maher right now

I can’t stand Maher, but I just LMAO.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:26:56pm

re: #81 MsJ

Where did that come from?

Presumably some people didn’t quite understand the “homegrown demagogue” line in Obama’s speech, so they’re helpfully helping out.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:26:56pm

re: #81 MsJ

Where did that come from?

Obama’s line about “homegrown demagogues” must have been misheard as “demigods” by some.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:27:30pm

re: #56 Scottishdragon

The mentions are painful….

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Scottishdragon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:28:07pm

Hitting the sack now :)

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:28:44pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:29:01pm

Great example of the “It’s Fine!” dog.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:30:40pm

re: #83 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t think we have to fix it. I think we do have to deal with the reality that there are a non-trivial number of people who are willing to support Trump, so what are the factors that are going into this and how can we address them to hopefully minimize that support, both now and in the future.

I’m not going to write it all off, not yet.

That’s a good point. I’m sorry if I came off as suggesting they should be written off. I don’t. In fact, I think tonight’s speech by the people who understand defense and can speak defense minded language pretty well got to some people who may not be as liberal as you and I.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:31:48pm
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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:32:00pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

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Great example of the “It’s Fine!” dog.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:32:05pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

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Great example of the “It’s Fine!” dog.

Ugh. Cliches aren’t plagiarism, you fucking wad.

(Yes, I groaned along with that line with everyone else…)

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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:32:23pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

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Great example of the “It’s Fine!” dog.

The butthurt on his TL is de-fucking-licious.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:32:48pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

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Great example of the “It’s Fine!” dog.

Grinnell went from a would be foreign policy adviser to a pretty whiny asshole pretty quickly. I guess that’s what happens when you stay with a party that hates you for you are.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:34:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:35:14pm

re: #92 Lidane

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I think the Dems should get a nice bump from this convention. I know those don’t mean too much but I think it will help.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:35:17pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:37:23pm

Compare this week’s DNC to the mess of last week which was:

Pink Floyd- In The Flesh (The Wall DVD)

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:38:55pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:40:39pm

By golly it does look like the Colorado flag! Taken somewhere in suburban Denver.

*heart emoji*

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:42:04pm
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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:42:12pm

re: #79 JasonA

Brilliant.

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Meanwhile, Donald Trump emulates Richard Nixon in 1972 by (by proxy) stealing Democratic Party campaign communications right around the time of the DNC convention. Only difference is that he didn’t have to have some third-rate burglars break into an office at a Washington DC hotel to achieve it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:44:07pm

Loving the contact high. Tomorrow it’s back to blood, sweat, and tears.

(That’s plagiarized.)

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No Depression  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:45:14pm

Noooo. Corporate Lawyers killed Stephen Colbert, host of the Colbert Report. :( But Stephen had Stephen Colbert’s identical twin cousin Stephen Colbert on, though. :)

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:46:58pm

ROFL. Trump really does have total fucking amateurs on his team:

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:47:41pm

Reports of a bolide over the SF bay area coming in to CHP from 911.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:48:01pm

re: #108 Single-handed sailor

Reports of a bolide over the SF bay area coming in to CHP from 911.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:48:46pm

looks more like a satellite breaking up

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:49:57pm

re: #107 Lidane

ROFL. Trump really does have total fucking amateurs on his team:

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Well, they knew he’d never read it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:50:10pm

re: #110 Single-handed sailor

looks more like a satellite breaking up

That’s what Phil Plait said in his RT of the video, but I couldn’t be bothered to copy/paste two links. ;)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:50:56pm
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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:51:32pm

Being in Mass. getting to see lots of Ayotte commercials. Ugh.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:56:54pm

Yes. Yes it is. I know from personal experience this summer.

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electrotek  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:57:26pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 27, 2016 • 9:57:47pm
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:01:29pm

re: #113 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh please make it so!

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:03:50pm

re: #110 Single-handed sailor

looks more like a satellite breaking up

Dammit! That was our supply ship. And its crew. May the Spirits of Emperors past receive them. We have extra rations stored under our facility at the Denver Airport, but they were carrying the newest issue of the Mating Season Special.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:04:13pm

re: #119 Shiplord Kirel

Dammit! That was our supply ship. And its crew. May the Spirits of Emperors past receive them. We have extra rations stored under our facility at the Denver Airport, but they were carrying the newest issue of the Mating Season Special.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:05:29pm

re: #120 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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My wife’s nights and weekends would be ruined if that were the case.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:08:47pm
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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:10:07pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:10:25pm

The GOP, so much hate…

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:11:05pm

re: #7 Lidane

Growing up often sucks hard, Eric. But the opposite is even worse in the long run. Especially for your children.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:11:48pm

All righty then. Off to work.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:11:55pm

re: #109 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s man-made. Were there any launches in the last day? I’m thinking it’s a re-entering interstage or booster.

Speaking of fiery stuff in the sky, an American Airlines flight out of DFW had a possible engine fire just after takeoff and returned to the airport about an hour ago. The local scanner page on Facebook (heavy on the Blue Lives Matter and prayers, but still useful) said people may have reported seeing a smoking or flaming engine on a plane over Arlington & Mid-Cities area.

Air traffic has been quiet for the last hour (I’m a pair of miles SW of DFW’s west runways) but I don’t know if that’s due to the emergency or just late-night slowdown.

Facebook

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:12:14pm

re: #114 BeachDem

Being in Mass. getting to see lots of Ayotte commercials. Ugh.

What a harpy! I”m so glad she skipped the RNC. She would have fit right in with those screamers.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:16:36pm

re: #40 Anymouse

I got to go from a training mission in the Caribbean Sea on the USS America (CV-66) to Lebanon to help with the evacuation of the US Marines from Beirut. As I recall, the GOP and President Reagan made a big deal about “not running from terrorists.” They still do.

Well were prepping to replace the Marines with the 1AD from Germany but we were stood down, they pulled out the survivors, and instigated a stupid little war in Grenada to hide how they cut and ran.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:16:41pm

Personal BS, if you care to check.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:17:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:23:42pm

re: #131 Kragar

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Someone’s got a case of the butthurt.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:24:18pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

The GOP, so much hate…

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Such idiots yet so typical of their party.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:24:54pm

re: #113 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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That’s a great feeling.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:29:37pm

Bed. must try to sleep.

What a great night.

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:30:11pm

re: #128 Sherlock Hound

What a harpy! I”m so glad she skipped the RNC. She would have fit right in with those screamers.

I always think of her as “who’s the girl”==the nickname Wonkette gave her when she joined McCain and Graham after Lieberman departed the Three Amigos.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:33:37pm

One last thought before I go to bed but I’m pretty amused at the idea that Obama “stole” optimism. He did out-Reagan the Republicans which I find pretty damn funny and unlike actual Reagan, he didn’t put down either overtly or subtley any group to satisfy his base. I thought Obama had one of his best speeches tonight . I am glad I tuned in. Looking forward to Clinton’s speech tomorrow. Really think that this has been a very solid convention all and all.

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Lidane  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:37:15pm
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BigPapa  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:45:55pm

Welp:

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:50:41pm

gottdamm

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 27, 2016 • 10:57:13pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Even Richard Nixon had soul.

But what I’d like to know is, can Giuli do the stroll?

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blueraven  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:00:49pm

Trump’s America.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:01:26pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

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Jenner7  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:05:43pm

G’night….

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blueraven  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:07:06pm
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MsJ  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:08:09pm

re: #142 blueraven

Trump’s America.

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What’s more terrifying is the police support. This is what an authoritarian police state looks like. Government doesn’t like you, you say something wrong, and the police haul you away.

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Kragar  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:09:30pm
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Kragar  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:33:05pm
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austin_blue  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:42:58pm

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

Tomorrow we will see if Hillary can eat a small amount of crow (she must apologize without really apologizing about the e-mail server crapfest). It must be finely done so as not to lose all of the momentum that Obama gave her tonight to pry off the Suburban Indies who still are wary of her and finish with a vision of the next four years. And she must win over Bernie’s shock troops who still don’t trust her as far as they can throw her.

So, that’s a hell of a Hill (heh!) to climb.

I think she can do it, but it will be the speech of her life.

I wish her well, because I love my country and Donald Trump is a pimple on the boil of the carbuncle of the future of America.

Too harsh?

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majii  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:52:46pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

I think Erickson has known that it’s been the GOP that has mainly been in the business of promoting divisiveness since 2009. If in the small hours of the night when he can’t sleep he realizes the role he played in dividing the nation’s citizens, it’s a step forward for him. A few short years ago, he didn’t seem to care whether the things he said and did were divisive or not because he appeared to view politics as a game. He also didn’t seem to care that that sh*t would lead to the rise of Trump to the top of his own political party, but since it has, maybe, just maybe, he’s reexamining his past. If so, it could compel him to reengage with reality and leave the political BS behind. We’ll see.

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teleskiguy  Jul 27, 2016 • 11:56:18pm

Whelp. This guy just followed me on Twitter.

Why? Fuckin’ why?

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:15:54am

re: #151 teleskiguy

Ask him.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:23:45am
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majii  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:27:08am

re: #150 majii

A few short years ago, he didn’t seem to care whether the things he said and did were divisive or not because he appeared [to me] to view politics as a game.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:30:15am

Again, I recall key moment when John McCain tried to defend Obama at a Tea Party rally as a man of honor whose politics they merely disagreed with. He was booed off the stage. That was about the point that the GOP stopped making any effort to call our or even distance themselves from these people who seem to think that their political views require no human decency or cooperation.

That started an attention-grabbing race to the bottom to see who could get away with the most outrageous claims and statements. And we have not reached bottom yet.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:37:31am

re: #151 teleskiguy

Whelp. This guy just followed me on Twitter.

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Why? Fuckin’ why?

Really??

Maybe hes an UM fan
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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:51:39am
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piratedan  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:52:59am

re: #149 austin_blue

tbh… I don’t think she has a fucking thing to apologize for and I would be disappointed if she did….

1) the SOS server was hacked…. not her personal server
2) she only set up a personal server because the NSA said she didn’t rate a secure e-mail system via their means
3) She made the same call that her GOP predecessors made in going the private route

The rest of this is just so much bullshit and I wish she could go right out there and say it, but the press would probably pass out and injuries would abound due to the lack of fainting couches.

I’d love to see her take a poser like Andrea Mitchell to the fucking woodshed just once and ask her why she seems to have a stick up her ass about her candidacy…

and if the NY Times dares to ask her anything just blow them off and tell them to simply go fuck themselves, as they’ve already established that it doesn’t matter what the fuck she says, they’re gonna spin it to make it appear that she’s lying, so why bother. I’ll see you fuckers in court.

I’d love to see her call them all out and say how is it that we can have a four years worth of GOP led witch hunts all around her person and not a single fucking indictment is leveled and no one can even get pissed off about the lack of Donald Trump’s tax returns and yet she’s the one who can’t be trusted. Would love for her to tell them to feel free to write what you want, I’m going to talk to the American people, at least they’ll actually listen to what I have to say.

and then end it by kicking Chuck Todd in the jewels and say that’s from America.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:55:36am

GOP was faced with a devilish choice: kick out Trump, run alternate candidate, but possibly totally split the party and alienate their voter base. Or keep Trump and at least have an intact party that can then retire behind a screen of Hillary-bashing to recover and rally.

Realists in the party know they have little chance when their candidate is polling less than 10% among blacks & Latinos, and less than 30% with women overall.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2016 • 1:03:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 1:14:34am

re: #160 teleskiguy

…and if intelligent mammals could vote, his approval ratings would be even lower…

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2016 • 1:16:11am

Getting tired of holier than thou Proglodytes

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piratedan  Jul 28, 2016 • 1:30:57am

re: #162 Kragar

and we lied to the entire fucking world in order to justify it, American exceptionalism indeed.

What’s so sad about this is for a political party that claims to own the mantle about being the adults in the room about foreign policy, they’ve got a pretty shitty track record over the last two decades….

A) Bush’s insistence in “finishing his father’s legacy war” no matter the complete lack of proof
B) not finishing off Al Queda in Afghanistan when they had the chance
C) Doing fuck all about all of the embassy bombings in Africa and around the world
D) Betraying a sitting president by attempting to sabotage the diplomacy he’s enacting to reduce a foreign power from obtaining nuclear weapons
E) their laser like focus on getting OSB…. not
F) Netanyahu…. enough said
G) Putin… enough said
H) blaming Obama for not fixing the ME and then not authorizing the means to let him do so, even if he wanted to.
I) Benghazi - an awesome example of using the deaths of American civil servants for political gain
J) Valerie Palme
K) End game for Iraq - yeah… that went well.

I’m sure I missed a few, but its late….

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2016 • 1:53:06am

Anyone ever heard of A Face in the Crowd, a film from 1957? I found it through a Wikiwalk.

In late 1950s America, a drunken drifter, Larry Rhodes (Andy Griffith), is plucked out of a rural Arkansas jail by Marcia Jeffries (Patricia Neal) to sing on a radio show at station KGRK. His raw voice, folksy humor and personal charm bring about a strong local following, and he lands a television show in Memphis, Tennessee under the stage name “Lonesome” Rhodes, given to him on a whim by Jeffries.

[…]

The final blow is delivered by the one who has loved Rhodes the most and been most injured by his selfishness: Marcia Jeffries. At the end of one of Rhodes’ shows, the engineer cuts the microphone and leaves Jeffries alone in the control booth while the show’s credits roll. Millions of viewers watch (in what initially is silence) their hero Rhodes smiling and seeming to chat amiably with the rest of the cast. In truth, he is mocking Fuller, then going off on a vitriolic rant about the stupidity of his TV audience. In the broadcast booth, Jeffries reactivates his microphone, sending his words and laughter over the air live. A sequence of television viewers is shown to react to Rhodes’ description of them all as “idiots, morons, and guinea pigs”.

Still unaware that his words have gone out over the air waves (with thousands of angry calls to local stations and the network headquarters), he departs the penthouse studio in a jovial mood and prophetically tells the elevator operator that he is going “all the way down”. As the elevator numbers go down to 0, the show’s popularity is plummeting as well. DePalma is already meeting with a young entertainer who could become Rhodes’ replacement.

Rhodes arrives at his penthouse, where he was to meet with the nation’s business and political elite. Instead he finds an empty space, except for a group of black butlers and servants, by whom, in desperation, he demands to be loved. When they fail to respond, Rhodes dismisses all of them. Rhodes calls the studio and Jeffries listens to him rant as he threatens to jump to his death from the penthouse. Jeffries, who has been silent, suddenly screams at Rhodes, telling him to jump and to get out of her, and everybody’s, life.

Miller angrily dares her to face Rhodes and tell him the whole truth. They go to the penthouse and find Rhodes drunk and disconnected from reality. He shouts folksy platitudes and sings at the top of his lungs while his longtime flunky Beanie (Rod Brasfield) works an applause machine—Rhodes’ own invention—to replace the cheers, applause, and laughter of the audience that has abandoned him. When he vows to get revenge on the TV studio’s engineer, Jeffries admits it was she who betrayed him. She demands he never call her again, and Miller tells Rhodes that life as he knew it is over.

en.wikipedia.org

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2016 • 2:12:47am

I wonder if Trump has gotten his talking points from Vlad yet.

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Alyosha  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:15:38am

Watched the Biden speech. Wept. Such an emotive speaker. Such an authentic man; it was a thing of beauty. Truly.
Saving Obama’s speech for after dinner. The anticipation is gnawing at me

I’m incredibly hopeful. Updings for every post on this thread.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:25:14am

re: #166 Alyosha

Watched the Biden speech. Wept. Such an emotive speaker. Such an authentic man; it was a thing of beauty. Truly.
Saving Obama’s speech for after dinner. The anticipation is gnawing at me

I’m incredibly hopeful. Updings for every post on this thread.

I do not share your emotion or optimism, but I am relieved to see some sanity in American politics. And I still believe that, barring some major catastrophe, DT will go down in flames.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:26:38am

Republicans will be venomous today. I’m already seeing in the local here in Austin. All I can do is offer them a hanky to wipe the foam off there tender little chins.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:28:52am

You guys see the “Tweets of Erick son of Erick”? Me thinks he may actually vote for her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:29:30am

Realists in the Republican Party know that DT’s biggest embarrassments are yet to come, and are cringing in anticipation…

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:30:55am

re: #165 Timothy Watson

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I wonder if Trump has gotten his talking points from Vlad yet.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:31:19am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Realists in the Republican Party know that DT’s biggest embarrassments are yet to come, and are cringing in anticipation…

Like Howard Stern…. What will he say next. He doesn’t seem to care about the fallout anymore as long as he gets controversy and press.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:36:05am

re: #172 Dave In Austin

Like Howard Stern…. What will he say next. He doesn’t seem to care about the fallout anymore as long as he gets controversy and press.

If it generates ratings and raises the market value of his advertising time, then there will be controversy. But DT is totally debasing the standard of what is considered controversial these days.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:36:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:39:21am

Obama’s take on American Exceptionalism is that every nation is exceptional in its own way.

The GOP take is that we are somehow exempt from the rules that govern international treaties and relations and therefore deserve special treatment.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:46:41am

re: #174 Dave In Austin

I love how they think all those things are ” theirs”. Just like they think America belongs to them alone. “We want our country back!” Please. The country never went anywhere, they just lost their shit over the bullshit they’ve been spoonfed for decades.

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 3:55:47am

re: #169 Dave In Austin

You guys see the “Tweets of Erick son of Erick”? Me thinks he may actually vote for her.

I hope DF sees them and remembers that we have a hidden ballot for a reason.

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Alyosha  Jul 28, 2016 • 4:00:17am

re: #176 A Mom Anon

I love how they think all those things are ” theirs”. Just like they think America belongs to them alone. “We want our country back!” Please. The country never went anywhere, they just lost their shit over the bullshit they’ve been spoonfed for decades.

Accusing a black man of stealing from them. After stealing from Michelle Obama. How bloody precious of them.

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steve_davis  Jul 28, 2016 • 4:20:22am

re: #2 bratwurst

Wish I could have heard what he said to her.

In a career full of memorable speeches, the POTUS just topped himself.

pretty sure he said “thank you” when they separated from that first hug.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 4:59:43am

like i said yesterday,

trump may be the worst incarnate of evil but TPP is even worse

Kaine’s speech also marked the second time that the Sanders’ supporters grew vocal, chanting, “Hey hey, ho ho, TPP has got to go!”

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:00:50am

re: #177 William Lewis

I hope DF sees them and remembers that we have a hidden ballot for a reason.

i think there will be a lot of this. the post game wrap up is going to be very telling.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:01:40am

re: #180 dangerman

like i said yesterday,

trump may be the worst incarnate of evil but TPP is even worse

Kaine’s speech also marked the second time that the Sanders’ supporters grew vocal, chanting, “Hey hey, ho ho, TPP has got to go!”

GOP is big to complain about how our membership in NATO or the UN compromises our national sovereignty, but the TPP basically exempts international corporations from a lot of national legislation

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:02:54am

re: #169 Dave In Austin

You guys see the “Tweets of Erick son of Erick”? Me thinks he may actually vote for her.

Many Republicans are thrashing about trying to find any excuse not to vote for Trump.

Because they know that if he wins, the damage to the party will be even greater than if he loses…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:06:24am

‘Morning, all. Nate Silver delves into sausage-making:

Election Update: Why Our Model Is Bullish On Trump, For Now

fivethirtyeight.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:12:31am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

‘Morning, all. Nate Silver delves into sausage-making:

Election Update: Why Our Model Is Bullish On Trump, For Now

fivethirtyeight.com

I want instant miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and election results months in advance…

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:14:40am

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles will no longer make passenger cars in the U.S. by early next year as it evolves even further into an automaker mostly known for pickups and SUVs.

The company may be called Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, but by early next year, it won’t be making automobiles in the U.S.

Instead, Fiat Chrysler’s U.S. plants will be focusing entirely on pickups and SUVs for the Ram and Jeep brands.

Fiat Chrysler is winding down production of the Chrysler 200 and Dodge Dart and will primarily produce Jeep SUVs and Ram pickups in the U.S. The company’s remaining car models will be made in Mexico or Canada.

Ending passenger car production in the U.S. is part of CEO Sergio Marchionne’s multibillion-dollar plan to increase profit margins to match competitors. It’s a bet that recognizes the growing popularity of SUVs in America, low gas prices and lower cost of producing vehicles in Mexico.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:16:24am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Many Republicans are thrashing about trying to find any excuse not to vote for Trump.

Because they know that if he wins, the damage to the party will be even greater than if he loses…

They can say what they want
Support who they must publicly

Then when in that curtained booth…..

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:26:15am

NROL-61 launching on an Atlas 421 at 8:37 EDT—12 minutes from now.

Atlas V NROL-61 Launch Broadcast

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Lidane  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:31:48am

LOL:

They understand that Cooper’s an actor, right? He’s not actually Chris Kyle.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:33:31am

Someone’s a little, umm, testy this morning, because nobody was smart enough to catch his brilliant ‘sarcasm’ yesterday….

Also, he’s starting to make even less sense than usual.

“Of course I’m being sarcastic,” Drumpf replied. “But you have 33,000 emails deleted, and the real problem is what was said on those emails from the Democratic National Committee. You take look at what was said on those emails, it’s disgraceful.”

How, exactly, does one ‘look at what was said’ in deleted emails?

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:34:55am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…and if intelligent mammals could vote, his approval ratings would be even lower…

Can the current GOP supporters even be considered mammals, never mind intelligent?

Ambulatory carnivorous fungus seems a more precise description.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:35:51am

re: #189 Lidane

LOL:

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They understand that Cooper’s an actor, right? He’s not actually Chris Kyle.

In their minds, he is, just like John Krasinski is the real Jack Da SIlva in 13 Hours, which, btw, is a documentary…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:37:05am

re: #191 Romantic Heretic

Can the current GOP supporters even be considered mammals, never mind intelligent?

Ambulatory carnivorous fungus seems a more precise description.

now, now, now. I reserve that sort of talk for GOP leaders who truly know better but spew bullshit to the masses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:37:44am

re: #190 makeitstop

Someone’s a little, umm, testy this morning, because nobody was smart enough to catch his brilliant ‘sarcasm’ yesterday….

Also, he’s starting to make even less sense than usual.

How, exactly, does one ‘look at what was said’ in deleted emails?

he meant that sarcastically

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Franklin  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:38:08am

re: #1 Frankie Five Angels

Well done, Mr. President. Because of you, I ran from the Republicans, and I am a better man for it.

Ditto this. I’ve written over and over in many more words, how and why I changed my party affiliation. But those 20 words sum it up perfectly.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:40:22am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Obama’s take on American Exceptionalism is that every nation is exceptional in its own way.

The GOP take is that we are somehow exempt from the rules that govern international treaties and relations and therefore deserve special treatment.

I’ve always found it odd that people who are big on ‘Law n’ Order’ are in favour of ‘Law of The Jungle’ when it comes to international relations.

Weren’t the tens of millions of dead in two world wars enough to teach them better?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:44:38am

re: #196 Romantic Heretic

I’ve always found it odd that people who are big on ‘Law n’ Order’ are in favour of ‘Law of The Jungle’ when it comes to international relations.

Weren’t the tens of millions of dead in two world wars enough to teach them better?

We won those wars, with minimal losses in comparison to most of the other participants…I think that is also part of the reason they did not learn anything

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Alyosha  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:50:30am

‘Don’t boo, vote.’

Love it!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:57:43am

Of course everybody here thinks Trump is crazy, but seriously—you read the transcripts of these interviews from yesterday…blithering we’re used to, but these were just random words spewed out willy-nilly. “I’ll put miners back to work! Why did I say that? I don’t know.” I think he’s literally, medically losing his mind right now. When will the press call a spade a spade?

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2016 • 5:59:44am

Well, nite shift is done, and it’s time to hit the rack. I wonder what the Golden Yam™ will have done to grab the morning news cycle by the time I get up??

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:02:40am

re: #199 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Of course everybody here thinks Trump is crazy, but seriously—you read the transcripts of these interviews from yesterday…blithering we’re used to, but these were just random words spewed out willy-nilly. “I’ll put miners back to work! Why did I say that? I don’t know.” I think he’s literally, medically losing his mind right now. When will the press call a spade a spade?

I am convinced that at some point, the press will finally come to understand that Trump is still good for ratings whether they are fawning over him or raking him over the coals.

And he will not take well to the change in attitude…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:05:34am
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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:07:21am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Actually Reagan stole FDR’s optimism if you actually seriously want to make optimism and sunnienss something that should be trademarked by a political party.*
* I don’t acutally believe that Reagan “stole” it. Though no doubt Reagan was influenced by FDR since Reagan even admitted that a little.

Greets and saluts from the sunny and humid NYC metro area. Reagan and the GOP never had the monopoly on optimism or on thinking that we can make the nation a better place for all of us. That’s the challenge and the gift we pass on from generation to generation.

Obama gets it in a fundamental way that the GOP seems to ignore. He’s the product of generations past that have made the nation a more perfect Union. And he understood the challenge to leave the nation better still.

In 2008, I voted for McCain, thinking that he was the more experienced person to deal with the foreign policy challenges facing the nation. After Obama won, I stated here on LGF I’d be part of the loyal opposition, hoping Obama did right and honestly evaluate/critique when he went off. By 2012, I was backing Obama, because the GOP had truly gone off the rails into an abyss of racist claptrap and obstructionism for the sake of thwarting the president’s actions on everything.

Despite leading the nation out of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, the GOP sought to tear down the Administration and prevent the nation from rising from the economic depths of despair. They’ve been anything but a loyal opposition, enabling and attacking the president on every issue and every utterance, no matter what. It’s gone past pathetic and obstructionism to something the nation has never seen before.

Now, we have a GOP that is so thorough debased and fixated on irrational hate, fear, and anger, they enabled the likes of Trump to run. He’s not the cause, he’s the symptom of the GOP rot. The GOP’s ongoing refusal to stop Trump has meant that they own every rotten thing Trump says.

So today, when Trump states he was being sarcastic, think to yourself how the rest of the GOP responded yesterday to what he said - their response was a horrified look and running away from the microphones, or wishing that what he said wasn’t accurately reported (it was - 3x he stated it in fact). His VP issued a statement yesterday trying to walk it back, which shows just how batcrap insane Trump is.

That’s where the GOP is. They rely on the insanity of Trump to keep his supporters voting for the GOP down the ticket. And Obama rightfully argued that it’s got to me more than just voting for Hillary, it has to be a concerted effort to win seats at every level of government, because that’s where policies are made. I’d go further and remind everyone to vote in every election, because all elections matter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:08:54am

re: #108 Single-handed sailor

re: #109 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:09:34am

re: #203 lawhawk

<blockquote

In 2008, I voted for McCain, thinking that he was the more experienced person to deal with the foreign policy challenges facing the nation. After Obama won, I stated here on LGF I’d be part of the loyal opposition, hoping Obama did right and honestly evaluate/critique when he went off. By 2012, I was backing Obama, because the GOP had truly gone off the rails into an abyss of racist claptrap and obstructionism for the sake of thwarting the president’s actions on everything.

I even considered voting for McCain (voted for him in the 2000 primaries) up to the moment he chose Sarah Palin…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:11:41am

something for Beach Dem:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:13:45am
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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:13:51am

re: #189 Lidane

They understand that Cooper’s an actor, right? He’s not actually Chris Kyle.

There’s some question as to whether Chris Kyle was Chris Kyle. But that’s for another time and place.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:15:15am

re: #190 makeitstop

Someone’s a little, umm, testy this morning, because nobody was smart enough to catch his brilliant ‘sarcasm’ yesterday….

Also, he’s starting to make even less sense than usual.

How, exactly, does one ‘look at what was said’ in deleted emails?

The 33k emails, or 30k emails, which were deleted and missing but actually aren’t missing. This is the rallying cry for the wingnut brigade now.

Remember the 30k emails! Never forget!

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:16:22am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:16:23am

re: #190 makeitstop

Someone’s a little, umm, testy this morning, because nobody was smart enough to catch his brilliant ‘sarcasm’ yesterday….

Also, he’s starting to make even less sense than usual.

How, exactly, does one ‘look at what was said’ in deleted emails?

I think he means the DNC emails, which I doubt Trump read. But who knows whether Donnie is being serious or sarcastic.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:17:49am

re: #151 teleskiguy

Whelp. This guy just followed me on Twitter.

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Why? Fuckin’ why?

Sounds like some Texas state rep wants a block party.

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Lidane  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:20:01am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:20:01am

Didn’t watch any of the speeches last night. I knew if I started I wouldn’t stop and I’d be stuck staying up till 11pm.

But it sounds like they were all good, especially Obama’s.

Also caught a loop of Kaine busting Trump’s Believe me! which was pretty funny, but has the usual cast of characters breaking out the fainting couches.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:20:21am

re: #213 Lidane

More of this please.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:20:24am

Yesterday I had someone tweet at me that I needed to watch 13 Hours to see the real story of Benghazi. Yeah, I’m going to be swayed by a Michael Bay production over 8 GOP led investigations that found no Clinton wrongdoing. Of course I blocked the person for dumbassery, but this is the state of the nation.

We’ve got people who think movies and fiction are substitutes for facts. The entire Trump campaign is about feels and substituting their delusional dystopian reality for our own.

Trump reality: streets soaked in blood
Our reality: crime at 40+ year lows

Trump reality: cops killed all over the place, it’s a war on cops
Our reality: LEO deaths in line of duty are at lowest point since before Reagan

On and on it goes. The Trump reality is all gloom and doom.
Our reality: There’s so much good going on that people don’t realize what has been accomplished because the GOP has fixated on doom. That doesn’t mean there are pockets where progress has not come easy or at all. But that’s because there’s issues that take more work and there are structural issues that have to be tackled.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:22:09am

re: #211 Sir John Barron

Even if he meant the “deleted” Clinton emails, they don’t say what he thinks they say.

Nothing Trump says has to make sense, even to him. He’s just throwing out empty platitudes figuring his supporters will just catch the important words - liar, cheater, corrupt and equate them with Hillary.

Never mind that all those words apply more to his own actions than hers. They’ve just been conditioned to think that Hillary is all those things.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:24:17am

Last night I turned off the phone and laptop and just watched (and enjoyed) the amazing DNC without social media distraction. I highly recommend it. It was extremely satisfying. Joe Biden is truly an American icon. There will never be another one. Panetta, Bloomberg, Kaine….what an amazing set of speakers. Obama was part preacher, part president, part philosophizer….that will go down as one of his finest speeches. As an east coaster, I am so exhausted from staying up until midnight for the last two weeks. But, it was worth it last night. The DNC’s message: America is Great. The RNC’s message: America is Terrible.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:26:43am

re: #190 makeitstop

“But you have 33,000 emails deleted, and the real problem is what was said on those emails from the Democratic National Committee….”

Did he just completely conflate Hillary’s server and the DNC server? The not-deleted 33,000 emails are a reference to her server, right?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:27:34am

As a tweet said last night, Trump’s call for Russian hackers to violate our secure systems may very well be a Logan Act violation. Does running for President make one immune to arrest? Would his arrest trigger a civil war? What a fucking mess.

Unfortunately, while I like to misuse the word “treason” as much as anybody, “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

Is Cyberwar “War”? Who knows? I don’t. He wouldn’t be doing the hacking himself. And we actually don’t have any “enemies” right now. The only people we’re fighting who claim to be a “state” are ISIS. While that claim is ridiculous, we could declare “war” on them, I guess—if you don’t mind using a 16” gun to shoot flies—but the GOP won’t even give Obama the AUMF he requested a year and a half ago.

Unfortunately, what Trump has done can’t technically be called treason, and seriously, if they couldn’t convict Aaron fucking Burr, what chance would they have with Trump?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:27:38am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

Did he just completely conflate Hillary’s server and the DNC server? The not-deleted 33,000 emails are a reference to her server, right?

It does not matter, it is meant to make Hillary look like a liar and a criminal. Higher Truth needs no facts.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:28:54am

The Wingnut faction of my little corner of Facebook is absolutely silent this morning. I take this to mean one of two things -

a) After last night’s speeches, they’re beginning to realize that they’ve willingly lowered themselves into a gigantic pit of flaming feces, or

b) They’re waiting for the new shipment of talking points to arrive.

I understand that many of them will begin squawking again before long, because that’s what they do. But right now I’m holding out the slim hope that last night’s speeches - especially the president’s - made a light bulb flicker back on for a second and made them actually think for a bit.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:30:00am

re: #190 makeitstop

Someone’s a little, umm, testy this morning, because nobody was smart enough to catch his brilliant ‘sarcasm’ yesterday….

“Of course I’m being sarcastic,” Drumpf replied. “But you have 33,000 emails deleted, and the real problem is what was said on those emails from the Democratic National Committee. You take look at what was said on those emails, it’s disgraceful.”

Also, he’s starting to make even less sense than usual.

How, exactly, does one ‘look at what was said’ in deleted emails?

Is he now saying that those supposed missing emails were from the DNC? I mean…were they personal, State business, DNC…he has no freaking idea what he is talking about.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:30:11am

re: #222 makeitstop

The Wingnut faction of my little corner of Facebook is absolutely silent this morning. I take this to mean one of two things -

a) After last night’s speeches, they’re beginning to realize that they’ve willingly lowered themselves into a gigantic pit of flaming feces, or

b) They’re waiting for the new shipment of talking points to arrive.

I understand that many of them will begin squawking again before long, because that’s what they do. But right now I’m holding out the slim hope that last night’s speeches - especially the president’s - made a light bulb flicker back on for a second and made them actually think for a bit.

b)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:30:12am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Even Richard Nixon had soul.

Nice Neil ref!

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:30:19am

re: #186 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles will no longer make passenger cars in the U.S. by early next year as it evolves even further into an automaker mostly known for pickups and SUVs.

A guarantee that the moment oil prices climb and gas prices go over $3.50, Fiat Chrysler will be back in bankruptcy because their sales will have dropped off a cliff. As it is, their car sales are lagging the other carmakers, and they’re putting all their eggs in the SUV/pickup basket.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:30:24am

2008 I distinctly remembered the strong urge to pull for Obama but at the last second pulled for McCain. This is after the realization that Wingnut Spice was a train wreck and coming to terms that conservatism was a corrupt ideology heavily invested in climate change denial.

Yet I still pulled red. I bullshitted myself into thinking it won’t matter, Obama will win the Blue State. But I did it. Ideology is a helluva drug. I know you vote for the POTUS and not the VP but Palin was not somebody you want in power: Trump is even worse.

But I’ll leave on a positive note: I’m proud of Obama, he did a really good job and has my gratitude. The continuity of message and buildup of support last night was well done. I’ll be going with my apolitical wife to vote for Ms 45, a vote that will clearly be vote ‘for’ somebody, not the lesser of two evils.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:30:43am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

Did he just completely conflate Hillary’s server and the DNC server? The not-deleted 33,000 emails are a reference to her server, right?

On purpose, because he knows people don’t care about those distinctions.

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Lidane  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:30:58am
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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:32:36am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

Did he just completely conflate Hillary’s server and the DNC server? The not-deleted 33,000 emails are a reference to her server, right?

I had that thought as well. I’m sure to Trump it doesn’t matter, because to his acolytes email is just an evil and sinister thing now.

Like someone said earlier - his sentences don’t even mean anything, they’re merely containers for buzzwords that piss off his followers.

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Franklin  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:33:20am

re: #227 SoundGuy 2016

Yep, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Not voting for President Obama in either election will be one of my deepest regrets. I am in a VERY safe blue state, but that doesn’t matter. I still regret it.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:35:07am

re: #224 Sir John Barron

b)

Sadly, you’re probably right.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:35:29am

re: #186 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles will no longer make passenger cars in the U.S. by early next year as it evolves even further into an automaker mostly known for pickups and SUVs.

It’s a shame because the reworked Chrysler 200 is very nice. The original inception of the 200 was so piss pour especially when you partnered it next to well-received 300.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:35:35am

Apparently now Bros and wingnuts alike now think the biggest talking point in the DNC emails is “money laundering” and “embezzling.” That the DNC has been caught taking money away from the states to put in Hillary’s campaign fund. Except this ignores two points:

1. Parties have traditionally pulled together the party’s entire resources, including (yes) raiding state party piggy banks, in order to fund races in “battleground states.”

2. The people bitching the loudest about this thought there was nothing wrong with the opposition crowing regularly about how much he was bringing in with $27 donations while he was giving not a single cent to the party or helping them to fundraise for down ticket races.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:37:58am

A friend who runs a Japanese sake shop in Seattle just wrote on his FB:

“Just met my first “Bernie or Bust” person in the flesh. She was super high.”

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:38:00am

I love how the wingnuts are mad at Bradley Cooper because he was at the DNC. Because he’s actually Chris Kyle? Or something? They’re DISAPPOINTED. Aww, I’m sure Mr Cooper is so heartbroken.

This is a prime example of their inability to separate fantasy/entertainment from real life. Which, when you think about it, makes their choice of Trump a tad more understandable. But it also shows they shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the levers of power. I wouldn’t trust Trump to take care of my houseplants let alone govern an entire country.

And again I have to ask:
Would you hire a person to babysit your kids who openly and often states their hatred of kids, and your kids specifically? Then why on earth would you hire someone who openly and often states their hate of government to run it? (while often cashing a paycheck from that awful, mean old government)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:39:16am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

Did he just completely conflate Hillary’s server and the DNC server? The not-deleted 33,000 emails are a reference to her server, right?

You’re asking as if you think he may have a clue about anything.

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Lidane  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:39:28am

This entire thread:

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:41:20am

Wait, full stop. Michael Bay is not a historian?

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:41:36am

Jumping ahead a bit to the debates, the first of which will be at Hofstra, one has to wonder how Clinton prepares for the likes of Trump.

I imagine she’ll have to come up with a way to pin Trump down on the issues since all he’s offered at any time about anything is empty platitudes.

For instance, I could see her saying that Trump is like the childhood friend who would play Connect 4 and say he won by only getting 2 in a row. You can’t just say that you’d do something. You have to say how. Anything else is just malarkey (insert your own term here).

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:42:47am

re: #239 SoundGuy 2016

Wait, full stop. Michael Bay is not a historian?

Wait, you mean Pearl Harbor wasn’t a love story between a cocky fighter pilot and a pretty nurse and the pilot then runs off in a bomber to go on Doolittle’s Raid? //////////////

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:43:54am

re: #235 Barefoot Grin

Being high in a sake shop. Now that is a safe space.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:44:33am
In 20 words, Trump conflates Hillary’s server and the DNC server. #DemsinPhilly
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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:45:17am
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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:46:15am

re: #241 lawhawk

Be kind and gentle to my BayBay. Pearl Harbor was me and wifey’s first date: he got us together!

(It was actually my man bear magnetism and ability to cook, but Pearl Harbor helped)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:47:21am

re: #241 lawhawk

Wait, you mean Pearl Harbor wasn’t a love story between a cocky fighter pilot and a pretty nurse and the pilot then runs off in a bomber to go on Doolittle’s Raid? //////////////

I’ll just quote the late, great Roger Ebert:

“Pearl Harbor” is a two-hour movie squeezed into three hours, about how on Dec. 7, 1941, the Japanese staged a surprise attack on an American love triangle. Its centerpiece is 40 minutes of redundant special effects, surrounded by a love story of stunning banality. The film has been directed without grace, vision, or originality, and although you may walk out quoting lines of dialog, it will not be because you admire them.

rogerebert.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:47:45am
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Franklin  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:48:54am

re: #239 SoundGuy 2016

Wait, full stop. Michael Bay is not a historian?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:49:49am

re: #241 lawhawk

Wait, you mean Pearl Harbor wasn’t a love story between a cocky fighter pilot and a pretty nurse and the pilot then runs off in a bomber to go on Doolittle’s Raid? //////////////

Bay’s Pearl Harbor was basically a reboot of Top Gun.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:49:50am

Baby Whiplash is Tweeting out a screechy, rambling, incoherent, hungover diatribe against Obama because of what Obama did to him and the country (got him fired from Breitbart?)

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sizzzzlerz  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:49:51am

The style and grace of this man in the face of the 8 years of shit being thrown at him by the GOP simply amazes me. How anyone could take that abuse, let it roll off their back, and then make a speech that, while it doesn’t directly call them out, makes it abundantly clear what his opinions about them are? I’ve voted in 10 presidential elections now and I’m prouder of my votes for Obama than anyone else.

That was a speech for the ages. Total killer. Bravo, Mr. President. Bravo!

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:51:20am

re: #240 lawhawk

Jumping ahead a bit to the debates, the first of which will be at Hofstra, one has to wonder how Clinton prepares for the likes of Trump.

I imagine she’ll have to come up with a way to pin Trump down on the issues since all he’s offered at any time about anything is empty platitudes.

For instance, I could see her saying that Trump is like the childhood friend who would play Connect 4 and say he won by only getting 2 in a row. You can’t just say that you’d do something. You have to say how. Anything else is just malarkey (insert your own term here).

If Hillary’s smart, she’ll use the GOP debates as her guide, looking to needle Trump into saying stupid shit and attacking her personally in a way that inspires sympathy. If she tries to counter the Gish Gallop, she’ll just end up burning through her time. And if she tries to get down in the mud with him, he’ll just beat her through experience. Like in bullfighting, the trick is to keep the bull so focused on the cape that he doesn’t notice you’re stabbing him repeatedly in the back.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:51:37am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

Bay’s Pearl Harbor was basically a reboot of Top Gun.

I viewed it as an inferior remake of Tora! Tora! Tora!

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:51:58am

Drop-in post:

I hadn’t planned on posting here during the DNC, but I just saw a tweet I have to post here:

Enjoy and I’ll be back on Friday or Saturday.

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:52:00am

re: #241 lawhawk

Wait, you mean Pearl Harbor wasn’t a love story between a cocky fighter pilot and a pretty nurse and the pilot then runs off in a bomber to go on Doolittle’s Raid? //////////////

Oh, I despise that movie more than most bad films. Ed Wood was a genius in comparison.

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:53:26am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

Bay’s Pearl Harbor was basically a reboot of Top Gun.

That might have been watchable. Pearl Harbor couldn’t even manage that much.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:54:12am

re: #253 Dr Lizardo

I viewed as an inferior remake of Tora! Tora! Tora!

I love Tora! Tora! Tora! but I hate when it’s on TV because I always stop what I’m doing and spend 2 1/2+ hours on the couch watching it.

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:54:17am

re: #254 Dark_Falcon

Drop-in post:

I hadn’t planned on posting here during the DNC, but I just saw a tweet I have to post here:

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Enjoy and I’ll be back on Friday or Saturday.

Speaking of tweets, please check out Eric Son of Eric’s from last night. Seriously my friend.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:54:17am

re: #189 Lidane

LOL:

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They understand that Cooper’s an actor, right? He’s not actually Chris Kyle.

Bwa hahaha hahahaha, that’s funny.

And, No.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:54:43am
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:54:46am

I caught a little bit of GMA this morning before work, when they were talking about Obama’s speech. Matthew Dowd (who I’m pretty sure I couldn’t work with) made a statement that really made me angry. He said that the convention hasn’t been addressing the issues, the fears and anxieties, that Americans are facing, and that Hillary needs to make sure see “gets into the zeitgeist” of the American people.

I kept trying to formulate why I was so angry at that statement. I’m thinking “what about the mom’s whose children were killed, or what about disabled, or minorities, or women” and then it finally hit me: He wants the convention to address the concerns of white people. The convention just isn’t doing enough to caress white’s people’s fragile egos and assure them that they’re still the ones in charge of the country.

Of course they didn’t, because that’s not a real problem. Democrats over and over are addressing the economic problems whites are facing, but what happens? Whites vote for Republicans, because the issue isn’t economics with them, it’s maintaining power.

So, fuck Dowd and his whitesplaining. These people he’s so concerned about for the wrong reasons can continue their spiral into irrelevance until they realize what the actual problems are.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:55:02am

Baby Whiplash wrote this while he was drunk==>

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Lidane  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:56:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:56:57am
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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:57:03am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

It wasn’t Reagan conservatism. It was his optimism (and it wasn’t even Reagan’s; it was the nation’s general outlook that is more optimistic than not - that our kids will be better off than we are). And that’s just the start of all that’s wrong with his statements.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:57:07am

re: #257 Dr. Matt

I love Tora! Tora! Tora! but I hate when it’s on TV because I always stop what I’m doing and spend 2 1/2+ hours on the couch watching it.

I first saw that when I was about 8 or so; it was on TV. I was transfixed for the better part of an afternoon. Seeing as my father had served in WWII, for me it was extraordinarily interesting.

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:57:23am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash wrote this while he was drunk==>

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Sad that Baby Whiplash could miss the point when even Eric Son of Eric could get it.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:57:48am

re: #189 Lidane

LOL:

They understand that Cooper’s an actor, right? He’s not actually Chris Kyle.

They would also be shocked to find that Kiefer Sutherland’s politics are nothing like Jack Bowers.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:57:52am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

Bay’s Pearl Harbor was basically a reboot of Top Gun.

From Here to Macho Grande.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:58:23am

I won’t show wifey this thread trashing her beloved Pearl Harbor. She’ll be like ‘Oh those crazy blogs you’re on!’

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:58:27am

re: #258 William Lewis

Speaking of tweets, please check out Eric Son of Eric’s from last night. Seriously my friend.

Link?

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:59:05am

re: #252 Targetpractice

If Hillary’s smart, she’ll use the GOP debates as her guide, looking to needle Trump into saying stupid shit and attacking her personally in a way that inspires sympathy. If she tries to counter the Gish Gallop, she’ll just end up burning through her time. And if she tries to get down in the mud with him, he’ll just beat her through experience. Like in bullfighting, the trick is to keep the bull so focused on the cape that he doesn’t notice you’re stabbing him repeatedly in the back.

while the crowd cheers “ole!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:59:15am

re: #267 William Lewis

Sad that Baby Whiplash could miss the point when even Eric Son of Eric could get it.

The only reason, THE ONLY REASON Baby Whiplash is still #NeverTrump is because of his former BFF Milo Yeahimadumbass and his swarm of alt-right Einsatzgruppen.

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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2016 • 6:59:56am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:00:10am

Michael Bay. Always reminds of this rather sarcastic spoof gif:

themetapicture.com

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:00:21am

re: #227 SoundGuy 2016

I like “Ms. 45”

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:00:25am

re: #265 lawhawk

And that’s the problem. Thanks to the GOP since Reagan, I am not better off than my parents and it will take three miracles, a hundred-thousand man hours of work & voting out all Republicans for my son to have a better future than his Grandparents.

There’s only a small bit of hyperbola there, alas…

< spit >

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:00:40am

re: #274 jeffreyw

you’re just cruel

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:00:43am

re: #273 The Vicious Babushka

The only reason, THE ONLY REASON Baby Whiplash is still #NeverTrump is because of his former BFF Milo Yeahimadumbass and his swarm of alt-right Einsatzgruppen.

Bennie was put on Earth to remind us that some baby seals should be clubbed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:01:38am

Don’t think Erick the Erick is ready to come over to the Blue Side

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:03:03am

re: #274 jeffreyw

hnnnnnnggggggg

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:03:20am

re: #164 Timothy Watson

Anyone ever heard of A Face in the Crowd, a film from 1957? I found it through a Wikiwalk.

en.wikipedia.org

I’ve posted quotes from it often relating to Trump. And Keith Olbermann always used to refer to Glenn Beck as Lonesome Rhodes.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:04:04am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t think Erick the Erick is ready to come over to the Blue Side

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publicly, yeah. and no need to reregister or anything.
i think there’s gonna be a lot of silent voting D

smart people know the existential threat trump is. they also understand a full vote for D is 2x more powerful than a 1/2 non vote or 3rd party vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:04:06am

Wet morning here in the Ohio River Valley.
Still raining in the Backwoods but not too bad yet, with just .61 inch so far (3.5” total over the last couple of days). The next wave has just arrived as I am typing this, so it’s going to get interesting…

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Franklin  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:04:08am

re: #261 Belafon

I caught a little bit of GMA this morning before work, when they were talking about Obama’s speech. Matthew Dowd (who I’m pretty sure I couldn’t work with) made a statement that really made me angry. He said that the convention hasn’t been addressing the issues, the fears and anxieties, that Americans are facing, and that Hillary needs to make sure see “gets into the zeitgeist” of the American people.

I kept trying to formulate why I was so angry at that statement. I’m thinking “what about the mom’s whose children were killed, or what about disabled, or minorities, or women” and then it finally hit me: He wants the convention to address the concerns of white people. The convention just isn’t doing enough to caress white’s people’s fragile egos and assure them that they’re still the ones in charge of the country.

Of course they didn’t, because that’s not a real problem. Democrats over and over are addressing the economic problems whites are facing, but what happens? Whites vote for Republicans, because the issue isn’t economics with them, it’s maintaining power.

So, fuck Dowd and his whitesplaining. These people he’s so concerned about for the wrong reasons can continue their spiral into irrelevance until they realize what the actual problems are.

My Mayor (Marty Walsh from Boston) gave a convention speech about organized labor and alcohol/drug dependency. He’s a white guy from Dorchester MA. There are many other examples.

He just wants to hear the Black Man™ tell the White People™ that he’s sorry for ruining the run of white men presidencies.

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:05:56am

re: #271 Dark_Falcon

Link?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:06:07am

re: #241 lawhawk

Wait, you mean Pearl Harbor wasn’t a love story between a cocky fighter pilot and a pretty nurse and the pilot then runs off in a bomber to go on Doolittle’s Raid? //////////////

Team America nailed it

Pearl Harbor Sucked

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:06:08am

re: #258 William Lewis

Speaking of tweets, please check out Eric Son of Eric’s from last night. Seriously my friend.

I found it:

And I too hate this year.

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Skip Intro  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:07:16am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

Why do they say “mistakenly”? They did it on purpose. If they were too stupid to figure out what it was that doesn’t make it a mistake; it makes it ignorance, something the GOP is full of.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:07:19am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t think Erick the Erick is ready to come over to the Blue Side

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And your party, Eric, can’t seem to distinguish between zygotes, fetuses, and, you know, actual babies.

Sigh.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:07:54am

re: #285 Franklin

My Mayor (Marty Walsh from Boston) gave a convention speech about organized labor and alcohol/drug dependency. He’s a white guy from Dorchester MA. There are many other examples.

He just wants to hear the Black Man™ tell the White People™ that he’s sorry for ruining the run of white men presidencies.

I’m a white male, and it was just infuriating hearing Dowd make that statement. I can’t imagine what Robin Roberts must have been thinking.

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Skip Intro  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:08:03am

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

Yet Eric will still vote GOP, as will you.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:08:07am

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

I found it:

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And I too hate this year.

what? that the R is a ____ and the D is competent, qualified, experienced?

what’s to “hate”?

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:08:24am

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

I found it:

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And I too hate this year.

Remember, we have the Austrailian (aka hidden) ballot for a reason. Just like in the confessional, no one else needs to know that you’ve finally done what is right…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:09:41am

re: #294 William Lewis

…Just like in the confessional, no one else needs to know that you’ve finally done what is right…

Yer confessin’ it wrong.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:09:47am
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:10:17am

re: #294 William Lewis

Remember, we have the Austrailian (aka hidden) ballot for a reason. Just like in the confessional, no one else needs to know that you’ve finally done what is right…

I’ve decided to lay off of the BernieBusters because I think most of them will eventually do the right thing, but they won’t be dragged there. They have to find it on their own.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:10:38am

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

I found it:

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And I too hate this year.

I think that a lot of Republicans have come to realize that DT will do more damage to the GOP if he wins and subsequently goes down in history as the WORST PRESIDENT EVER instead of jut losing and moving on to his next project.

Then the GOP can withdraw and hide behind four years of Hillary-bashing (with a mid-term election boost) while it tries to recuperate and rally.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:11:11am

re: #276 dangerman

I like “Ms. 45”

I love Ms 45. I also like saying:

My name is Hillary, Ms 45 if you’re nasty

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:11:51am

re: #293 dangerman

what? that the R is a ____ and the D is competent, qualified, experienced?

what’s to “hate”?

yeah i know,

two candidates.
one demonstrably “better” than the other

but not my team so i gotta hate it

it’s unproductive politics

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Dark_Falcon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:12:48am

re: #292 Skip Intro

Yet Eric will still vote GOP, as will you.

There’s a difference between local, state, congressional, and presidential votes. I can vote Republican for governor and still vote Democrat for the Chicago Metropolitan Water Reclamation District, and I have. I also not vote for Trump and still vote Republican for the House and Senate, especially since Mark Kirk is no friend of Trump.

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:13:00am

re: #295 Decatur Deb

Yer confessin’ it wrong.

Eh, too much protestantism in us Anglicans… ;)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:13:12am

re: #256 William Lewis

That might have been watchable. Pearl Harbor couldn’t even manage that much.

When I can’t watch a movie with Sara Rue in it, you know it’s bad,

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:14:03am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that a lot of Republicans have come to realize that DT will do more damage to the GOP if he wins and subsequently goes down in history as the WORST PRESIDENT EVER instead of jut losing and moving on to his next project.

Then the GOP can withdraw and hide behind four years of Hillary-bashing (with a mid-term election boost) while it tries to recuperate and rally.

yup once again - he wasnt conservative enough. this time not even a conservative at all. not even our guy - we didnt want him. so it’ll be playbook as usual

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William Lewis  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:14:46am

Bleah. Getting late. Gotta crash. Later all.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:14:47am

Somebody is worried about Nielsen Ratings
And, how damn pathetic is that?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:15:21am

re: #304 dangerman

yup once again - he wasnt conservative enough. this time not even a conservative at all. not even our guy - we didnt want him. so it’ll be playbook as usual

The Prez gave them that out last night. He invited them to play “No True Republican”.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:15:27am

re: #301 Dark_Falcon

There’s a difference between local, state, congressional, and presidential votes. I can vote Republican for governor and still vote Democrat for the Chicago Metropolitan Water Reclamation District, and I have. I also not vote for Trump and still vote Republican for the House and Senate, especially since Mark Kirk is no friend of Trump.

if trumps an existential enough threat to not vote for him, then it’s disingenuous to not vote 2x as powerfully against him

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:16:27am

my surprise…

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b.d.  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:16:30am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart

Somebody is worried about Nielsen Ratings
And, how damn pathetic is that?

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Sad!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:17:23am

Welp, Hillary gained 0.1 and Trump slipped 0.1 in the RCP polls.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:17:31am

re: #261 Belafon

I caught a little bit of GMA this morning before work, when they were talking about Obama’s speech. Matthew Dowd (who I’m pretty sure I couldn’t work with) made a statement that really made me angry. He said that the convention hasn’t been addressing the issues, the fears and anxieties, that Americans are facing, and that Hillary needs to make sure see “gets into the zeitgeist” of the American people.

I kept trying to formulate why I was so angry at that statement. I’m thinking “what about the mom’s whose children were killed, or what about disabled, or minorities, or women” and then it finally hit me: He wants the convention to address the concerns of white people. The convention just isn’t doing enough to caress white’s people’s fragile egos and assure them that they’re still the ones in charge of the country.

Of course they didn’t, because that’s not a real problem. Democrats over and over are addressing the economic problems whites are facing, but what happens? Whites vote for Republicans, because the issue isn’t economics with them, it’s maintaining power.

So, fuck Dowd and his whitesplaining. These people he’s so concerned about for the wrong reasons can continue their spiral into irrelevance until they realize what the actual problems are.

I’m reminded of a story at Salon (bear with me) that tackled the common theme among pundits and politicians to keep assuming that “working class = white men.” That analyses of the Clinton campaign that argued she doesn’t have an appeal to the “working class” ignore the reality that the working class in this country are not uniformly white men anymore. That not only do women account for a large percentage of jobs now, but whites are actually losing ground to minorities in the working world. And those two groups have bigger issues on their plates than appeals to higher wages or lower taxes.

The reason I’m reminded of that when hearing people like Dowd is they assume that the majority of voters are still white people who want to be assured that they’re still the ones who matter when it comes to the sausage-making of government. So they think that voters want to be told that government will protect them from the little brown men with Qurans under their beds, that the government will protect the police from black “thugs,” will protect white workers from “illegal aliens” who aren’t speaking English, and protect men all over the country from having their masculinity questioned by willful women.

White people who have lived their lives relying upon their privilege are experiencing a major crisis of faith and morons like Dowd think they need to be assured that their privilege will be maintained.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:17:53am

re: #308 dangerman

if trumps an existential enough threat to not vote for him, then it’s disingenuous to not vote 2x as powerfully against him

Not voting for him just means you’re hoping someone else will cover for you. If you don’t want him in office, then vote for Clinton. Because, if he makes it into office, you’re not voting means you still helped him win.

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:18:10am

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

something for Beach Dem:

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Thanks, Sleuth! Can’t imagine anyone who wouldn’t want to sit next to Bakari. He’s supposed to have a speaker slot—haven’t seen him yet, though I might have missed him.

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steve_davis  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:19:31am

re: #94 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Ugh. Cliches aren’t plagiarism, you fucking wad.

(Yes, I groaned along with that line with everyone else…)

It wouldn’t be plagiarism anyway because he FUCKING CITED IT before he said it.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:19:36am

re: #313 Belafon

Not voting for him just means you’re hoping someone else will cover for you. If you don’t want him in office, then vote for Clinton. Because, if he makes it into office, you’re not voting means you still helped him win.

its like only third grade math
unfortunately, yet again it’s party over country

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:19:36am

re: #301 Dark_Falcon

There’s a difference between local, state, congressional, and presidential votes. I can vote Republican for governor and still vote Democrat for the Chicago Metropolitan Water Reclamation District, and I have. I also not vote for Trump and still vote Republican for the House and Senate, especially since Mark Kirk is no friend of Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:20:16am

RWNJ’s just don’t seem to get it.
“Movies” aren’t real

Bradley Cooper’s appearance at the Democratic National Convention has irked some conservative fans of the actor’s portrayal of Navy SEAL Chris Kyle in 2014’s “American Sniper.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:20:17am

re: #314 BeachDem

Thanks, Sleuth! Can’t imagine anyone who wouldn’t want to sit next to Bakari. He’s supposed to have a speaker slot—haven’t seen him yet, though I might have missed him.

He speaks today at 5 pm

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:20:19am

re: #289 Skip Intro

Why do they say “mistakenly”? They did it on purpose. If they were too stupid to figure out what it was that doesn’t make it a mistake; it makes it ignorance, something the GOP is full of.

Amazing the number of pictures of tRump in front of the Ohio flag during the RNC—remember when Obama was seen in the same frame with it it and ZOMG!!11!! OBAMA INVENTED HIS OWN OBAMAFLAG!!11!!!! Good times.

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Interesting Times  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:20:30am

re: #307 Decatur Deb

The Prez gave them that out last night. He invited them to play “No True Republican”.

I can see why he did that, though I was hoping Drumpf *would* be hung around the necks of GOP reps and senators since this election offers a golden opportunity to pick off even gerrymandered districts…

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Jenner7  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:20:49am

Because he’s always expected to fail and she always has to live up to expectations or more.

Such bullshit.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:21:41am

re: #322 Jenner7

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Because he’s always expected to fail and she always has to live up to expectations or more.

Such bullshit.

But remember, there’s no sexism in politics.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:23:12am

gotta go do dangerous stuff

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:24:56am

re: #322 Jenner7

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Because he’s always expected to fail and she always has to live up to expectations or more.

Such bullshit.

That analogy is full of so much fail.

1) It’s baseball, not soccer, where you hope to hit one out of the ballpark.
2) You don’t have to hit a home run to win the game.
3) The writer is showing off his complete and utter lack of sports knowledge.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:25:08am

re: #322 Jenner7

Because he’s always expected to fail and she always has to live up to expectations or more.

CNN just now on Hillary’s speech tonight: “To use a soccer analogy…if you don’t knock it out of the park, you’re in trouble.”

— Tom Nuttall (@tom_nuttall) July 28, 2016

Such bullshit.

hmmmm, that’s not a soccer analogy.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:25:30am

re: #322 Jenner7

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Because he’s always expected to fail and she always has to live up to expectations or more.

Such bullshit.

Hillary needs to hurl a fastball down the middle of the fairway.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:25:42am

Seeing this video on my FB now.

Hundreds of Empty DNC Seats for Hillary Clinton Coronation Speech 26th July 2016

Empty seats for Hillary’s coronation “speach” July 26th.

Stein troll filmed it, obviously.

Anyone see the obvious problem with this video? lmao

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:25:46am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

That’s not even a good baseball analogy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:25:48am
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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:26:33am

I haven’t seen this posted here yet - John Oliver and his crew knock another one out of the park, with some very talented help.

John Oliver to The Repulican National Convention: Don’t Use Our Song [Last Week Tonight 7/25/2016]

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:27:32am

re: #321 Interesting Times

I can see why he did that, though I was hoping Drumpf *would* be hung around the necks of GOP reps and senators since this election offers a golden opportunity to pick off even gerrymandered districts…

It’s a long campaign. Plenty of time left to do that.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:27:38am

re: #328 GlutenFreeJesus

Josh Fox of Gasland fame overstating ‘all those empty seats’ right after the Great BernieBot Walkout. Paleez.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:27:53am

re: #325 lawhawk

That analogy is full of so much fail.

1) It’s baseball, not soccer, where you hope to hit one out of the ballpark.
2) You don’t have to hit a home run to win the game.
3) The writer is showing off his complete and utter lack of sports knowledge.

I would have bet beaucoup Ameros that there was nobody who knew less about sports than me. I guess I would have lost.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:29:46am

re: #334 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I would have bet beaucoup Ameros that there was nobody who knew less about sports than me. I guess I would have lost.

Everyone knows that if you don’t hit one out of the park you get a red card and have to sit in the penalty box until the 7th inning.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:29:56am

Como estas?

Yeah, there’s that Trump again.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:30:19am

As if the last two elections weren’t a great enough example of just how much of a joke the idea of “equality” in our politics is, now we’re watching the media say that the woman must perform absolutely flawlessly to be seen as better than the lunatic who spent an hour and a half last week giving a speech that was derided from both sides as an absolute clusterfuck.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:32:16am

re: #322 Jenner7

Because he’s always expected to fail and she always has to live up to expectations or more.

Such bullshit.

There’s something else we as Democrats need to embrace in Clinton: Her flaws. I love Obama, and while he’s not perfect either, he’s far more error free than about 99.999% of the country. Clinton is like most of us in that sometimes she makes mistakes. She’s still better than most of us in how hard she’s worked to try to accomplish what she has.

We need to acknowledge her mistakes, but also point out that most of us would have probably done worse. She is the first woman, and the expectations will be higher for her than any white man, but we don’t have to contribute to that.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:33:03am

re: #327 SoundGuy 2016

Hillary needs to hurl a fastball down the middle of the fairway.

In between the uprights.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:33:20am

re: #328 GlutenFreeJesus

Seeing this video on my FB now.

[Embedded content]

Empty seats for Hillary’s coronation “speach” July 26th.

Stein troll filmed it, obviously.

Anyone see the obvious problem with this video? lmao

Tens!!!!111

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:34:12am

Hillary will do fine tonight. Maybe great, at least solid. I do believe she will get a bounce because of the entire week. Positive vs negative. A list vs D list. Think it will stay close until after the first or second debate and then she pulls away.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:34:21am

re: #328 GlutenFreeJesus

Seeing this video on my FB now.

[Embedded content]

Video

Empty seats for Hillary’s coronation “speach” July 26th.

Stein troll filmed it, obviously.

Anyone see the obvious problem with this video? lmao

That dude was in the press tent during the stupid ‘I’m with Nina’ protest yesterday, so I’m assuming the video was made in that time frame - mid-afternoon, while delegates were out getting cheese steaks and visiting the Liberty Bell.

Clumsy propaganda is the worst.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:34:24am

Up last night until midnight, rain falling now on a metal roof, coffee really isn’t helping…
I’m ready for a nap myownself. But I’ll take waffles, too…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:34:40am

re: #322 Jenner7

Because he’s always expected to fail and she always has to live up to expectations or more.

Such bullshit.

Was this from one of CNN’s dozen or so Trump supporters or one of the anchors?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:35:35am

And someone must have told him how to spell. This was before he fixed “speech”.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:36:20am

re: #328 GlutenFreeJesus

Seeing this video on my FB now.

Empty seats for Hillary’s coronation “speach” July 26th.

Stein troll filmed it, obviously.

Anyone see the obvious problem with this video? lmao

What time of the day was that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:36:41am

re: #325 lawhawk

That analogy is full of so much fail.

1) It’s baseball, not soccer, where you hope to hit one out of the ballpark.
2) You don’t have to hit a home run to win the game.
3) The writer is showing off his complete and utter lack of sports knowledge.

You need to knock it through the basketball ring!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:36:53am

re: #345 GlutenFreeJesus

And someone must have told him how to spell. This was before he fixed “speech”.

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I’m old enough to remember when Bernie Sanders was the “people-powered” candidate. But since Sanders ran as a Democrat and now supports the Democratic nominee, the “people-powered” people need a new candidate.

/

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:37:42am

re: #346 Dr. Matt

What time of the day was that?

See my comment above - probably mid-afternoon, before any of the important speeches took place.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:37:48am

re: #345 GlutenFreeJesus

And someone must have told him how to spell. This was before he fixed “speech”.

[Embedded content]

“Hey everybody I’m in the middle of National’s Park in DC and there are empty seats for Hillary’s Philadelphia convention speech!”

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:38:02am

re: #348 Sir John Barron

I’m old enough to remember when Bernie Sanders was the “people-powered” candidate. But since Sanders ran as a Democrat and now supports the Democratic nominee, the “people-powered” people need a new candidate.

/

I’m assuming that by “people-powered” they mean soylent green, right?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:38:18am

re: #349 makeitstop

See my comment above - probably mid-afternoon, before any of the important speeches took place.

Yes but each Democratic seat must be filled 24/7 or the whole convention is a fail.

//

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:38:37am

After Obama’s speech last night Hillary really needs to strike that pigskin pure or… something.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:39:06am

re: #348 Sir John Barron

I’m old enough to remember when Bernie Sanders was the “people-powered” candidate. But since Sanders ran as a Democrat and now supports the Democratic nominee, the “people-powered” people need a new candidate.

/

Bernie came too close to winning. He’s got success cooties all over him now. Stein is still pure, and likely to remain so….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:39:09am

re: #345 GlutenFreeJesus

And someone must have told him how to spell. This was before he fixed “speech”.

[Embedded content]

People powered people don’t need know spell.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:39:45am

re: #354 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Bernie came too close to winning. He’s got success cooties all over him now. Stein is still pure, and likely to remain so….

Any candidate who gets more than 1% can’t be a special people powered candidate.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:40:09am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t think Erick the Erick is ready to come over to the Blue Side

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And eating them. Don’t forget how we eat them.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:40:31am

Was this “wall” even a thing?

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:40:44am

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

He speaks today at 5 pm

Ah—can’t wait—couldn’t find a total list of today’s speakers, so thanks. Now I’ll shout:

HEY EVERYBODY—WATCH BAKARI SELLERS’ SPEECH AT 5 PM. SOMEDAY YOU’LL LOOK BACK AND SAY, “OH YEAH, I REMEMBER SEEING HIM SPEAK IN 2016.”

Bakari will definitely be going places. (And that concludes my public service message)

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:41:25am

re: #358 GlutenFreeJesus

Was this “wall” even a thing?

Embedded Image

Thank you, Facebook and Twitter, for allowing our political discourse to get even dumber.

Pretty soon, we’ll vote by meme.

Edit: I can’t grammar, too early

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:42:17am

re: #358 GlutenFreeJesus

And what would that “wall” have stopped?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:42:30am

re: #356 Sir John Barron

Any candidate who gets more than 1% can’t be a special people powered candidate.

The perfect candidate would be one nobody dirties themselves voting for, yet somehow still is elected. They’re holding their breath waiting for that….

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:42:43am

re: #345 GlutenFreeJesus

A) Coronation? See, that right there is precisely GOP operative rhetoric. Rush Limbaugh says shit like this. (another one is “regime”, which makes me want to smack people with a shovel) Keep fucking that chicken Josh.

B) He’s actually THERE and either is lying outright or is too much of a dipshit to know who is speaking on what day. This little prick. He’s blessed to even be able to be there and is so fucking whiny he wouldn’t know that if it slapped him in his spoiled brat mouth.

Just join the GOP and be done with it. James O’Keefe can help you make propaganda “films”.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:42:43am

re: #358 GlutenFreeJesus

Was this “wall” even a thing?

Embedded Image

Fucking worst photoshop ever.

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No Depression  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:43:35am

re: #358 GlutenFreeJesus

Was this “wall” even a thing?

Embedded Image

I don’t remember seeing it during Obama’s speech. And the fences look a lot clearer than the rest of the picture, so I think they’re shopped in.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:44:06am

re: #362 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The perfect candidate would be one nobody dirties themselves voting for, yet somehow still is elected. They’re holding their breath waiting for that….

They demand open primaries but actually don’t care for much democracy itself.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:44:51am

re: #365 No Depression

I don’t remember seeing it during Obama’s speech. And the fences look a lot clearer than the rest of the picture, so I think they’re shopped in.

Better troll memes needed.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:45:15am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:45:40am

re: #334 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I would have bet beaucoup Ameros that there was nobody who knew less about sports than me. I guess I would have lost.

Then you at least know that “run the table on the 7-10 split” is a more apt soccer metaphor.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:46:48am

re: #361 Belafon

Assuming that’s legit, that wasn’t even a wall, but probably a USSS requirement ahead of the VP and POTUS speaking so as to give USSS a chance to respond in case someone attempted to rush the stage to attack the principals.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:46:54am

re: #361 Belafon

I think those things are there because of fire/safety codes and as a guide for security. I’ve seen them at every large event in every large venue I’ve ever been to. It’s another stupid, backwardass, stupid fuck observation. Like bitching about Tim Kaine’s lapel pin not being an American flag and complaining it was from Honduras when it was to honor his son serving as a Marine. They don’t even bother to research a fucking thing before running their stupid brainless mouths.

(edit, if this is a photo shop, it still isn’t an unusual thing to see these at any big event. I’ve even seen them outside at street fairs)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:47:27am

re: #370 lawhawk

That wasn’t even a wall, but probably a USSS requirement ahead of the VP and POTUS speaking so as to give USSS a chance to respond in case someone attempted to rush the stage to attack the principals.

I thought those people had no principals!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:47:49am

re: #370 lawhawk

That wasn’t even a wall, but probably a USSS requirement ahead of the VP and POTUS speaking so as to give USSS a chance to respond in case someone attempted to rush the stage to attack the principals.

Wingnuts think it’s outrageous that the President has Secret Service protection but that he thinks they don’t need to open carry AKs at Walmart.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:47:59am

re: #371 A Mom Anon

I think those things are there because of fire/safety codes and as a guide for security. I’ve seen them at every large event in every large venue I’ve ever been to. It’s another stupid, backwardass, stupid fuck observation. Like bitching about Tim Kaine’s lapel pin not being an American flag and complaining it was from Honduras when it was to honor his son serving as a Marine. They don’t even bother to research a fucking thing before running their stupid brainless mouths.

And that is seen as a feature, not a bug.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:48:02am

re: #370 lawhawk

That wasn’t even a wall, but probably a USSS requirement ahead of the VP and POTUS speaking so as to give USSS a chance to respond in case someone attempted to rush the stage to attack the principals.

Yes but that little screen thing is just the same exact thing as a three thousand mile wall of concrete 20 ft high.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:48:15am

re: #358 GlutenFreeJesus

Was this “wall” even a thing?

Embedded Image

No one wall here:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:49:07am

re: #376 Dr. Matt

No one wall here:

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I see tens of empty seats in that top one which proofs how unpopular democrat party is.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:49:33am

re: #371 A Mom Anon

I think those things are there because of fire/safety codes and as a guide for security. I’ve seen them at every large event in every large venue I’ve ever been to. It’s another stupid, backwardass, stupid fuck observation. Like bitching about Tim Kaine’s lapel pin not being an American flag and complaining it was from Honduras when it was to honor his son serving as a Marine. They don’t even bother to research a fucking thing before running their stupid brainless mouths.

I woke up to see that people were upset that Bradley Cooper was there. That amuses the hell out of me. Between that and Bill O’Reilly’s pretzel gymnastics to say the slaves that built the White House didn’t have it so bad, I’m really starting to become convinced that many right wingers are simply stupid people. I guess when you have had Limbaugh and Coulter as your ideology’s leading spokespeople for a generation, that happens.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:49:35am

re: #376 Dr. Matt

No one wall here:

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or here

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Looking more closely, the meme’d image does look ‘shopped. Can we get the Rage Furby on the case to see if we have pixels of differing sizes?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:50:05am

re: #378 HappyWarrior

I woke up to see that people were upset that Bradley Cooper was there. That amuses the hell out of me. Between that and Bill O’Reilly’s pretzel gymnastics to say the slaves that built the White House didn’t have it so bad, I’m really starting to become convinced that many right wingers are simply stupid people. I guess when you have had Limbaugh and Coulter as your ideology’s leading spokespeople for a generation, that happens.

Conservatives are really weird.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:50:22am

re: #363 A Mom Anon

A) Coronation? See, that right there is precisely GOP operative rhetoric. Rush Limbaugh says shit like this. (another one is “regime”, which makes me want to smack people with a shovel) Keep fucking that chicken Josh.

Yeah, that’s a really popular term among Busters. Even a relatively sane Bernie supporter told me earlier this week, ‘If the DNC turns into a coronation, I’m voting for Stein.’

Which led me to conclude that no matter what happened at the DNC, he’d see it as a ‘coronation.’ And with that the loop closed itself and I told him it was his vote to use however he saw fit.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:50:34am

re: #376 Dr. Matt

Someone needs to tweet that back to the loser who can’t photoshop. But hey, if that’s all they got, we’re doing something right.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:50:54am

re: #358 GlutenFreeJesus

Yup, that’s bullshit. Because Gettyimages shows that there wasn’t anything there even when the President spoke:

gettyimages.com

gettyimages.com

ETC.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:51:22am

re: #381 makeitstop

Yeah, that’s a really popular term among Busters. Even a relatively sane Bernie supporter told me earlier this week, ‘If the DNC turns into a coronation, I’m voting for Stein.’

Which led me to conclude that no matter what happened at the DNC, he’d see it as a ‘coronation.’ And with that the loop closed itself and I told him it was his vote to use however he saw fit.

Coronation, i.e. nominating the candidate who won a majority of the party’s delegates.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:51:26am

re: #380 Sir John Barron

Conservatives are really weird.

Very. The freak out about Obama “stealing” from Reagan is pretty funny too considering A) You can’t steal optimism and B) Reagan’s own style borrowed heavily from FDR which I think Reagan even admitted.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:52:15am

re: #381 makeitstop

And they still won’t get their baby unicorn pony. And the next cycle they’ll do the same stupid, ineffective bullshit and whine about how unfair it is. It’s pathological.

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No Depression  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:52:23am

Comment found on Jezebel:

“Tim Kaine isn’t mad at the Republican Party, he’s just disappointed.”

Heh.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:52:44am

Maybe there was a wall on the first night?

See here —> phillymag.com

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:52:57am

re: #384 Sir John Barron

Coronation, i.e. nominating the candidate who won a majority of the party’s delegates.

You have it backwards. Coronation has a negative meaning: Electing the person I wasn’t supporting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:53:11am

re: #376 Dr. Matt

Something is there, but not some stupid blue wall:

photo from nola.com
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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:53:19am

re: #386 A Mom Anon

And they still won’t get their baby unicorn pony. And the next cycle they’ll do the same stupid, ineffective bullshit and whine about how unfair it is. It’s pathological.

“We want real democracy where only our pet issue is talked about and our candidate who got less than 2% of the vote is elected. We don’t want no Hillary coronation.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:53:57am

re: #382 A Mom Anon

Someone needs to tweet that back to the loser who can’t photoshop. But hey, if that’s all they got, we’re doing something right.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the Secret Service DID set up movable barricades around the stage where the President is speaking. They take their jobs pretty seriously. Which is what makes it so stupid, like the ‘They have armed guards!’ thing. Of course they have armed guards - you guys keep telling us you’re armed and want to ‘take your country back’.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:54:53am

re: #381 makeitstop

Yeah, that’s a really popular term among Busters. Even a relatively sane Bernie supporter told me earlier this week, ‘If the DNC turns into a coronation, I’m voting for Stein.’

Which led me to conclude that no matter what happened at the DNC, he’d see it as a ‘coronation.’ And with that the loop closed itself and I told him it was his vote to use however he saw fit.

I just want to know what those Berners who claim it’s a coronation and complain about the security protocol and Dems not wanting protesters tehre would think be the case if Bernie were there. And then there are the Stein/GP trolls. I highly doubt just anyone could show up at the Green Party convention whereever that was. The puregressive types(not knocking progressives ehre since I consider myself one) but these types think they have a monopoly on what progressivism actually is. I said it yesterday and I think many of the speakers made it clear that progressivism is more than just politics, it’s a way of life. Kaine by his own admission wasn’t always a political guy but he showed the spirit of what it means to be a progressive when he went to Honduras and did what he did.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:54:57am

re: #389 Belafon

You have it backwards. Coronation has a negative meaning: Electing the person I wasn’t supporting.

Oh I know. But you’re right. The losers whine that the winning candidate is coronated.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:55:53am

How did Jill Stein get the Green Party nomination? Was it through coronation or some other process?

/

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:56:26am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something is there, but not some stupid blue wall:

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Looks like a rope line.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:56:34am

re: #358 GlutenFreeJesus

Was this “wall” even a thing?

Embedded Image

That’s a BernieBotBarrier not a wall.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:56:49am

re: #384 Sir John Barron

Coronation, i.e. nominating the candidate who won a majority of the party’s delegates.

And gasp praising the virtues of said candidate. Hell alot of speakers have even given shoutouts to Bernie including both Kaine and Obama in their speeches. The funny thing is if Bernie were nominated, I think these types would be furious if people giving speeches on behalf of Bernie also gave praise to Clinton. It really needs to be said that they’re not really progressive or democratic, they are left wing, yes but they’re not progressive or democratic people in the sense that they don’t accept that there’s a lot in this world that is not about them and their favored candidates.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:57:33am

re: #387 No Depression

Comment found on Jezebel:

“Tim Kaine isn’t mad at the Republican Party, he’s just disappointed.”

Heh.

That may not be inaccurate heh. I liked seeing that his father in law was in attendance.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:57:43am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

Yeah the paeans to Bernie from many of these speakers has been a bit surprising.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:58:21am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

That may not be inaccurate heh. I liked seeing that his father in law was in attendance.

Wasn’t his FIL a Republican governor of VA?

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:59:17am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rope line.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:59:41am

re: #393 HappyWarrior

I think that’s an excellent point, HW. It’s about what you DO, not what you SAY. How you live and your choices speaks more than your words. I find it very telling that so many people had no idea about Clinton or Kaine’s pre political office careers. Because they didn’t spend tons of time yapping about it, perhaps because they’re fucking BUSY getting stuff done.

Also, when I hear people call Hillary a bitch, I think of that Tina Fey line, back when she and Amy Pohler were Weekend Update anchors on SNL. Bitches Get Stuff Done. I may get that on a t-shirt.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:59:50am

re: #362 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The perfect candidate would be one nobody dirties themselves voting for, yet somehow still is elected. They’re holding their breath waiting for that….

What they want is an authoritarian, but one whose authority will be used to pass those things that they approve of. They didn’t want Bernie to have to win the nomination, they want the party to give it to him because he deserved it by deign of being the “true progressive.” Just as they felt that he would never have to work with Congress, but that they would be forced to make his proposals law “or else.”

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:59:55am
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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 7:59:56am

re: #393 HappyWarrior

The puregressive types(not knocking progressives ehre since I consider myself one) but these types think they have a monopoly on what progressivism actually is.

Just like all those pissy conservative pundits we saw last night who thought they had the patriotism market covered and were upset that Obama ‘took it back’ from them.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:00:18am

re: #401 Sir John Barron

Wasn’t his FIL a Republican governor of VA?

Yes, the first post-reconstruction one at that and someone who walked the talk on integration. He’s supported a lot of Democrats other than his son since he’s left office.

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ipsos  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:00:18am

re: #383 lawhawk

Yup, that’s bullshit. Because Gettyimages shows that there wasn’t anything there even when the President spoke:

gettyimages.com

gettyimages.com

ETC.

The barrier is there in last night’s pictures, actually, if you look very closely at the bottom. Those Getty pics were shot from a high angle where the mass of the stage mostly obscures it.

And yes, it’s a USSS thing. Look pretty much anywhere POTUS appears and you’ll see it. I remember noticing a low barrier in front of Obama when he was on the Daily Show, even.

Partially crowd control, I suspect. And in some contexts (like when there’s a low barrier running on either side of the presidential lectern), I wouldn’t be surprised to find out it’s made of Kevlar to give POTUS something to dive behind in case he’s attacked.

Me? I’m glad there’s some protection against someone trying to rush the stage when POTUS is speaking. Seems pretty reasonable from where I sit.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:00:57am

re: #397 SoundGuy 2016

That’s a BernieBotBarrier not a wall.

I’m guessing it was there on day 1 to keep the BernieBotBro animals from rushing the stage.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:00:59am

re: #395 Sir John Barron

How did Jill Stein get the Green Party nomination? Was it through coronation or some other process?

/

The political equivalent of getting a law degree via the mail.
/

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:01:02am

From Daily Kos, some of the people who will be speaking tonight:

As on other nights, though, some of the highlighted speakers won’t be politicians, but people whose lives Hillary Clinton has touched or who illuminate key issues in the campaign. Thursday night, that includes a homecare worker active in the Fight for $15; a woman who works two jobs while her husband works the night shift; the father of “one of 14 American Muslims who died serving the United States in the ten years after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks”; and Jensen Walcott and Jake Reed, the former of whom was fired from her job after asking why the latter was being paid more than her.

Hey, Matthew Dowd, whose concerns are the Democrats not covering?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:01:41am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

Looks like a rope line.

It’s a glass barrier. Probably be shattered with the others before this is over.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:02:21am

re: #383 lawhawk

Even when Michelle Obama spoke on Day 1, there wasn’t any kind of barrier.

gettyimages.com

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Testy Toad T  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:02:31am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

It really needs to be said that they’re not really progressive or democratic, they are left wing, yes but they’re not progressive or democratic people in the sense that they don’t accept that there’s a lot in this world that is not about them and their favored candidates.

They proclaim to be of the left wing, and as much as it pisses me off to be declared non-“progressive” to not support Sanders, I guess I can’t deny them whatever label they choose for themselves.

But the left they say they represent sure doesn’t look like the left where I’m from.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:02:45am

re: #403 A Mom Anon

I think that’s an excellent point, HW. It’s about what you DO, not what you SAY. How you live and your choices speaks more than your words. I find it very telling that so many people had no idea about Clinton or Kaine’s pre political office careers. Because they didn’t spend tons of time yapping about it, perhaps because they’re fucking BUSYU getting stuff done.

Also, when I hear people call Hillary a bitch, I think of that Tina Fey line, back when she and Amy Pohler were Weekend Update anchors on SNL. Bitches Get Stuff Done. I may get that on a t-shirt.

Exactly. Kaine made another great point in his speech but he talked about how proud he was to get his start on the local level because on the local level is where you truly get to know people and their concerns. Kaine seems to get as Tip O’Neill once said that all politics is local.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:03:46am

re: #406 makeitstop

Just like all those pissy conservative pundits we saw last night who thought they had the patriotism market covered and were upset that Obama ‘took it back’ from them.

The thing is Obama’s is very real because it’s inclusive to people of all backgrounds. The right wing pundits use it to put people down who they think aren’t “real” Americans.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:03:56am

re: #411 Belafon

They’re not covering the CONCERNS of rich, white pundit assholes on TV. Aww. Let me see if I can find my sympathy……nope.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:04:28am

A past RNC shitshow also had a glass wall around the stage. Zoom in…..

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:06:03am

King Trump protected by glass. Weak. So sad.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:06:07am

re: #414 Testy Toad T

They proclaim to be of the left wing, and as much as it pisses me off to be declared non-“progressive” to not support Sanders, I guess I can’t deny them whatever label they choose for themselves.

But the left they say they represent sure doesn’t look like the left where I’m from.

You made a great point the other day that we can’t let these guys take teh progressive label from us and that Kaine being able to spoke fluently in two languages is pretty damn progressive in itself. It’s what has really gotten me thinking about how progressiveness at its core really is how we live our lives.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:07:24am

re: #406 makeitstop

Just like all those pissy conservative pundits we saw last night who thought they had the patriotism market covered and were upset that Obama ‘took it back’ from them.

I thought they were bemoaning the fact that Obama quite rightly picked up the battle standard of American greatness from the collapsed corpse of their party, not complaining that he was appropriating.

Of course I’m almost certainly being too charitable.

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ipsos  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:07:50am

re: #408 ipsos

Here’s an example of what I mean. That black panel on the left side of the desk in front of where Obama’s sitting? That never appeared on set except when POTUS was in the house:

Image: 150721-obama-daily-show-inline_44d5789e811f76a8fa85bb7afe542156.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:09:07am

So tRump won’t release his taxes because they’re being audited. I know there’s no formal requirement, but it’s become a pretty well-established custom. Now we all know that an audit makes no difference, but what if the IRS offered to show them, not to the public, but privately to the FEC? Wonder what the objection to that would be?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:09:54am

re: #423 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So tRump won’t release his taxes because they’re being audited. I know there’s no formal requirement, but it’s become a pretty well-established custom. Now we all know that an audit makes no difference, but what if the IRS offered to show them, not to the public, but privately to the FEC? Wonder what the objection to that would be?

what if we got Assange to leak them for us?

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:11:44am

re: #424 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what if we got Assange to leak them for us?

Assange is on strict orders from the Kremlin not to do anything that threatens Putin’s investment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:13:00am

re: #400 Sir John Barron

Yeah the paeans to Bernie from many of these speakers has been a bit surprising.

I read a piece by Ezra Klein, who not only interviewed HRC, but also many people she’d worked with. The picture is so completely at odds with the cold, vindictive, imperious image! Apparently as Senator she reached out to a number of GOP’ers who had been instrumental in getting her husband impeached, when there was common ground. And the thing people say over and over is that she LISTENS to other people and is willing to learn from them.

This is such a PROFOUND difference between her and Trump, who doesn’t listen to anyone. She’s the smartest kid in the class, but she listens to people, ask for imput, studies. Trump? Even according him, he doesn’t listen to others.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:14:25am

Trump must be going apoplectic by now…

Yeah, Trump’s busy doing word counts, retweeting this a few minutes ago:

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:15:06am

Chris Cuomo of CNN is either willfully ignorant, a concern troll, jockeying for a job at Fox, or all of the above.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:16:16am

re: #427 lawhawk

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Considering she ran against him and served as his Secretary of State, it’s inevitable that he’d talk about himself a bit since the two are linked. But go ahead Matt, make this your issue rather than the actual contents of the speech. Really sad that even a hack like Erick Erickson can see Obama’s speech for what it was.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:16:32am

re: #428 Dr. Matt

Chris Cuomo of CNN is either willfully ignorant, a concern troll, jockeying for a job at Fox, or all of the above.

All of the above.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:16:54am

re: #430 HappyWarrior

All of the above.

I concur

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KingKenrod  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:19:31am

re: #427 lawhawk

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SO stupid. Not only was this a farewell of sorts for Obama, he was also making the case that Hillary would continue and build on the successes of his two terms - something only a popular president can do btw. I hope Trump’s head explodes when Hillary beats his ratings tonight.

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:21:00am

re: #336 lawhawk

Como estas?

[Embedded content]

Yeah, there’s that Trump again.

Is it just me, or does it smell like Trump and his cronies have come to believe they are above the law?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:21:52am

re: #432 KingKenrod

SO stupid. Not only was this a farewell of sorts for Obama, he was also making the case that Hillary would continue and build on the successes of his two terms - something only a popular president can do btw. I hope Trump’s head explodes when Hillary beats his ratings tonight.

Unfortunately the ratings are for the whole night and don’t show how the viewership dropped as that snoozefest of a “speech” went on and on and on last Thursday.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:22:19am

re: #186 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles will no longer make passenger cars in the U.S. by early next year as it evolves even further into an automaker mostly known for pickups and SUVs.

Bummer for the MOPAR fans. A long long history. Another memory of the past in Detroit.

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:24:06am

re: #426 Blind Frog Belly White

The picture is so completely at odds with the cold, vindictive, imperious image!

Are you saying that the right-wing noise machine may have been lying to us all this time?

SHOCKA

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:24:27am

I love how Obama is somehow this narcissist but Trump is modesty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:25:11am

Jane Sanders: ‘I don’t understand’ why Bernie supporters aren’t backing Hillary

Jane Sanders can’t explain why her husband’s die-hard supporters will not unify behind Hillary Clinton in the fight against Donald Trump.

“I guess, you know, I don’t understand. Democracy is not always chapter and verse, written out in advance. I mean, people are passionate, but they’re positive,” Sanders told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on Wednesday from the convention floor in Philadelphia. “One of the hardest meetings for me was going to meet with all of our delegates. There were 2,000 people there, and they were so upset that Bernie was not winning, not going to win, and was going to endorse, again, but people said they were booing you, did you lose control of your supporters? No, we never wanted control of our supporters, we wanted to engage them in the political process and they’re passionately feeling that and that’s OK.”

gee, heard the same thing from another campaign…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:25:46am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:26:15am

AMERICA IS A SMOKING CRATER & I ONLY CAN PUT THE FIRE OUT!!!1!!!!

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KingKenrod  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:26:35am

Rasmussen shows Clinton +1 today (+5 with independents) and no convention bounce for Trump. Time to tweak those models…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:27:02am

re: #440 The Vicious Babushka

AMERICA IS A SMOKING CRATER & I ONLY CAN PUT THE FIRE OUT!!!1!!!!

[Embedded content]

Says the guy who cries to get out of paying his hotel room. You’re a fucking brat, Donnie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:27:35am

re: #425 Targetpractice

Assange is on strict orders from the Kremlin not to do anything that threatens Putin’s investment.

he might leak them sarcastically…

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:27:44am

re: #441 KingKenrod

Rasmussen shows Clinton +1 today (+5 with independents) and no convention bounce for Trump. Time to tweak those models…

This is great news for John McCain.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:28:31am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jane Sanders: ‘I don’t understand’ why Bernie supporters aren’t backing Hillary

gee, heard the same thing from another campaign…

Jane didn’t help that at all when she pretty much suggested that the people who voted for Clinton in the Southern primaries were too dumb to know better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:29:00am

re: #440 The Vicious Babushka

AMERICA IS A SMOKING CRATER & I ONLY CAN PUT THE FIRE OUT!!!1!!!!

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America is a dumpster fire and only I can piss long enough to dampen it!!!

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:30:00am

re: #446 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America is a dumpster fire and only I can piss long enough to dampen it!!!

Has anyone told him that the dumpster is made out of Cesium and contains Chlorine Trifluoride?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:30:19am

re: #441 KingKenrod

Rasmussen shows Clinton +1 today (+5 with independents) and no convention bounce for Trump. Time to tweak those models…

This is pretty huge considering Rasmussen has a history of showing GOP “bias”.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:30:58am

re: #440 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:31:58am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:32:01am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jane Sanders: ‘I don’t understand’ why Bernie supporters aren’t backing Hillary

gee, heard the same thing from another campaign…

Simple. The “die hard” supporters were never Democrats and/or liberals in the first place. They wouldn’t have supported Hillary even if Bernie wasn’t around.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:32:17am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jane Sanders: ‘I don’t understand’ why Bernie supporters aren’t backing Hillary

gee, heard the same thing from another campaign…

Bernie’s had it so easy running as senator in Vermont that he (and Jane) had no clue how a tough campaign actually works.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:32:52am

re: #449 lawhawk

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It’s like when the Trump opps research displayed the unemployment rates in Indiana and Virginia to “prove” Pence was better than Kaine at unemployment and jobs. Yeah, I am a little cynical about our country’s direction because people like Baron Von Fuckstick are poisoning the political process with their bigotry.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:33:20am

re: #450 lawhawk

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Stay classy assholes. And no I wouldn’t want Susan Sarandon’s hacked to favor Clinton either.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:33:50am

re: #434 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Unfortunately the ratings are for the whole night and don’t show how the viewership dropped as that snoozefest of a “speech” went on and on and on last Thursday.

Neilson does collect real-time data at that level of resolution, but someone would probably have pay for it.

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:33:50am

re: #450 lawhawk

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See how the dailycaller redacted that the message posted was in Russian and English to divert attention from the issue at hand?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:34:02am

re: #452 Belafon

Bernie’s had it so easy running as senator in Vermont that he (and Jane) had no clue how a tough campaign actually works.

I think so, yes.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:35:31am

re: #441 KingKenrod

Rasmussen shows Clinton +1 today (+5 with independents) and no convention bounce for Trump. Time to tweak those models…

Conventions are about calling the base back home. So, looks like we’re on schedule.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:38:14am

re: #448 Dr. Matt

This is pretty huge considering Rasmussen has a history of showing GOP “bias”.

IMO, Rats-mussen doesn’t do any actual polling, but just pulls numbers out of their ass. I wonder what the motivation is to release these today?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:39:12am

re: #427 lawhawk

Obama Refers to Himself 119 Times During Hillary Nominating Speech… news.grabien.com
— DRUDGE REPORT

I wonder which candidate Drudge supports?

Oh, right, Trump. Who does nothing but brag about himself.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:40:07am

re: #437 HappyWarrior

I love how Obama is somehow this narcissist but Trump is modesty.

Trump is very humble. Believe me.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:40:29am

Tammy Duckworth scheduled to speak today during the 4-6 pm timeblock.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:40:47am

re: #461 Sir John Barron

Trump is very humble. Believe me.

/

Trust me!

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Skip Intro  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:41:01am

re: #395 Sir John Barron

How did Jill Stein get the Green Party nomination? Was it through coronation or some other process?

/

She’s the only one who wanted it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:41:04am

re: #427 lawhawk

Obama Refers to Himself 119 Times During Hillary Nominating Speech… news.grabien.com
— DRUDGE REPORT

Translation: Great speech. We got nothin.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:41:33am

re: #462 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tammy Duckworth scheduled to speak today during the 4-6 pm timeblock.

She’s going to be a good senator. I’m looking forward to hear beating Kirk.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:41:36am

Just came across a article critical of the Dems and chiding them about not going with Bernie and don’t come crying if you lose to Trump.

Everyone has been warned!

(Sorry if already posted, I am not keeping up too well today…still fritzin’ with computer repairs and data backups in case y main machine decides to go south on me)

The Guardian US - If Hillary Clinton loses in November, it won’t be Bernie Sanders’ fault

If Hillary Clinton loses in November, it won’t be Bernie Sanders’ fault

When progressive delegates booed any mention of Clinton, some accused them of helping Donald Trump. But they aren’t to blame for a divided party

Democrats could lose the election this November: just watch Hillary Clinton being booed at her own party convention. But, if that happens, it won’t be the fault of Sanders’ supporters. No - the blame will fall on the DNC. They could have played to the future of our country and the economic vision we desire. Instead, they gave us “super-predator” Clinton and milquetoast, pro-banking Tim Kaine.

I had hoped Obama would deliver genuine economic change - but that didn’t happen. Before becoming a journalist, I even moved to Pennsylvania for a couple of months to volunteer for Barack Obama’s campaign. I was enamored by his intelligence and the beautiful ways he wrote and spoke about race. But I was also thrilled (naively) that Obama seemed to get his money from small donors, and that he might break Wall Street’s stranglehold on the Democrats.

I wanted Obama to turn his back on Bill Clinton’s disastrous deregulatory economic policies (that balanced budgets on the backs of the poor) and Hillary Clinton’s debts to finance. But, once in office, Obama offered no break from Clintonism: it was Clinton 2.0, with the veneer of hope that he’d be better on race.

- - - more at link - - -

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:41:48am

re: #460 Sir John Barron

I wonder which candidate Drudge supports?

Oh, right, Trump. Who does nothing but brag about himself.

How often did Obama refer to himself in the third person? “Jimmy makes the score!!”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:42:09am

re: #461 Sir John Barron

Trump is very humble. Believe me.

/

So humble you’ll be sick of his abnegation.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:43:00am

re: #456 Teukka

Indeed it was. Figures that the Daily Caller would skip over that detail. Wouldn’t fit their agenda.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:43:53am

re: #469 Decatur Deb

Why are you going all Divergence on us? /

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:44:43am

re: #467 ObserverArt

Just came across a article critical of the Dems and chiding them about not going with Bernie and don’t come crying if you lose to Trump.

Everyone has been warned!

(Sorry if already posted, I am not keeping up too well today…still fritzin’ with computer repairs and data backups in case y main machine decides to go south on me)

The Guardian US - If Hillary Clinton loses in November, it won’t be Bernie Sanders’ fault

This is why they’re assholes-
“Democrats could lose the election this November: just watch Hillary Clinton being booed at her own party convention. But, if that happens, it won’t be the fault of Sanders’ supporters. No - the blame will fall on the DNC. They could have played to the future of our country and the economic vision we desire. Instead, they gave us “super-predator” Clinton and milquetoast, pro-banking Tim Kaine.”
The voters of the Democratic party chose Clinton and her economic vision. Just because they desired a certain economic vision doesn’t mean everyone did. And once again reducing Tim Kaine to “pro-banking” while ignoring he’s a lot more than that. Typical puregressive bullshit. They almost seem to want Trump to win so they can bitch.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:45:42am

re: #471 lawhawk

Why are you going all Divergence on us? /

To be candid, you should show more amity.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:46:45am

re: #473 Decatur Deb

Oh, aren’t you the dauntless one….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:46:45am

re: #473 Decatur Deb

To be candid, you should show more amity.

we should only elect dauntless, like Trump.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:46:53am

re: #467 ObserverArt

Just came across a article critical of the Dems and chiding them about not going with Bernie and don’t come crying if you lose to Trump.

Everyone has been warned!

(Sorry if already posted, I am not keeping up too well today…still fritzin’ with computer repairs and data backups in case y main machine decides to go south on me)

The Guardian US - If Hillary Clinton loses in November, it won’t be Bernie Sanders’ fault

“My pony’s so pure, it doesn’t exist.”

If Bernie had become president, would this guy turn against Bernie for not getting things done, or would it have not been Bernie’s fault, but those nasty Republicans who won’t let him do anything?

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:47:09am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am convinced that at some point, the press will finally come to understand that Trump is still good for ratings whether they are fawning over him or raking him over the coals.

And he will not take well to the change in attitude…

I thought it would happen too…but I am starting to wonder.

If yesterday’s rambling dangerous anti-American tirade doesn’t do it I don’t know what will. And the media seems to have passed it by a bit too much in my thinking.

But we did get to hear (and read) more about broken-hearted Bernouts

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:47:32am

re: #475 Sir John Barron

we should only elect dauntless, like Trump.

I’d like to see Trump jump from a boxcar. With votes.

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Jenner7  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:48:23am

Donald Trump retweeted this:

Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:50:01am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

So Trump is: a)a great truth-teller; b)just joking and sarcastic; c)trying to play the media and American public.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:50:13am

re: #476 Belafon

“My pony’s so pure, it doesn’t exist.”

If Bernie had become president, would this guy turn against Bernie for not getting things done, or would it have not been Bernie’s fault, but those nasty Republicans who won’t let him do anything?

They would have turned on Bernie the same way they did turn on Obama. What these people don’t get is that the DNC didn’t force Clinton on anyone, Democratic voters overwhelmingly decided they liked her more than Benrie. Shit, I would have been perfect pickings for the Bernie campaign- I’m white, male, under 30, have had my struggles finding work, etc but the message didn’t resonate with me and here’s why, Bernie focused so much on past resentments i.e. Clinton signing the repeal of Glass-Steagall, that ACA wasn’t as progressive as they hoped, etc. Clinton to her credit talked a lot about how we can make tomorrow better.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:50:54am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

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Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

imagine if anyone but Trump had made that “joke.” There’s certain things that presidential candidates shouldn’t joke about.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:51:12am

re: #477 ObserverArt

I thought it would happen too…but I am starting to wonder.

If yesterday’s rambling dangerous anti-American tirade doesn’t do it I don’t know what will. And the media seems to have passed it by a bit too much in my thinking.

But we did get to hear (and read) more about broken-hearted Bernouts

Yeah but Democrats are bad too so both sides.
/

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:51:18am

The most purchased car in each state (52 Photos)

A quick sanity check……I highly question their methodology judging by a few of these results:

Alabama - Kia Forte
District of Columbia - Jaguar XK
Florida - BMW 760
Georgia - Nissan Leaf
Louisiana - BMW 760
New York - Cadillac Escalade EXT
Texas - Cadillac Escalade EXT

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:51:31am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

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Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

I JUST SIGNED A LAW THAT OUTLAWS RUSSIA FOREVER. THE BOMBING BEGINS IN FIVE MINUTES.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:52:09am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

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Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

Piers Morgan makes a lot more sense, as a concept, after the Brexit vote.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:52:22am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

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Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

First, there was nothing about it that indicated he was joking.

Second, why on earth would anyone believe that Trump has earned that kind of good faith to assume he wasn’t being serious.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:52:45am

So the flag of Honduras doesn’t even look close to the service flag that Kaine was in fact wearing. It really proves what I’ve said before. People don’t bother researching information because they want their bias validated. They want Tim Kaine to appear to care more about Honduras than the US.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:52:58am

re: #476 Belafon

“My pony’s so pure, it doesn’t exist.”

If Bernie had become president, would this guy turn against Bernie for not getting things done, or would it have not been Bernie’s fault, but those nasty Republicans who won’t let him do anything?

As far as I can determine, Bernie’s theory was that he didn’t need a cooperative Congress. He’d issue a diktat, and millions of people would pour out into the streets until it was enacted—all the thousands of things that would have to be done. The same people who were too lazy to register to vote are going to spend every day marching and fighting in the streets to pass every Post Office renaming.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:53:16am

re: #484 Dr. Matt

The most purchased car in each state (52 Photos)

A quick sanity check……I highly question their methodology judging by a few of these results:

Alabama - Kia Forte
District of Columbia - Jaguar XK
Florida - BMW 760
Georgia - Nissan Leaf
Louisiana - BMW 760
New York - Cadillac Escalade EXT
Texas - Cadillac Escalade EXT

Absolutely no chance.

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:53:20am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

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Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

Yeah: just a “joke”. Just like every BOA (Big Obnoxious Asshole) you’ve ever had the misfortune to run into: no matter what stupid, nasty or bigoted claptrap they spout, any complaint about it is met with a sneery dismissal: “It was just a joke! Whatsamatta, can’t take a joke?” And in a political context, usually with an additional sneer about “humorless liberals” or whatever.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:53:32am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

imagine if anyone but Trump had made that “joke.” There’s certain things that presidential candidates shouldn’t joke about.

GOP is releasing an anti-Hillary ad campaign called “I’m with Careless” in reference to the FBI statement of Hillary’s private server.

Seriously. I’m with Careless.

Their candidate is Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:54:25am

re: #488 HappyWarrior

So the flag of Honduras doesn’t even look close to the service flag that Kaine was in fact wearing. It really proves what I’ve said before. People don’t bother researching information because they want their bias validated. They want Tim Kaine to appear to care more about Honduras than the US.

Another Fail courtesy of the “patriot” pledge-pin and flag police.

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:54:29am

re: #459 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

IMO, Rats-mussen doesn’t do any actual polling, but just pulls numbers out of their ass. I wonder what the motivation is to release these today?

Let’s hope it’s to undermine what they assume will be a >5 point bounce without losing all remaining motes of credibility.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:54:53am

re: #489 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As far as I can determine, Bernie’s theory was that he didn’t need a cooperative Congress. He’d issue a diktat, and millions of people would pour out into the streets until it was enacted—all the thousands of things that would have to be done. The same people who were too lazy to register to vote are going to spend every day marching and fighting in the streets to pass every Post Office renaming.

The other thing is, that’s not how our system works. Bernie’s ignorance about how the legislature works really really disappointed me from someone who has been in a legislature for more than 20 years but I guess the take to the streets element was easier because if he had talked about the legislative process, people would start wondering why this guy who had been in Congress since before even the Clintons arrival to Washington had so few laws to his name.

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:55:06am

re: #484 Dr. Matt

The most purchased car in each state (52 Photos)

A quick sanity check……I highly question their methodology judging by a few of these results:

Alabama - Kia Forte
District of Columbia - Jaguar XK
Florida - BMW 760
Georgia - Nissan Leaf
Louisiana - BMW 760
New York - Cadillac Escalade EXT
Texas - Cadillac Escalade EXT

Don’t those things usually pick out cars that a state buys more than other states?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:55:58am

re: #484 Dr. Matt

The most purchased car in each state (52 Photos)

A quick sanity check……I highly question their methodology judging by a few of these results:

Alabama - Kia Forte
District of Columbia - Jaguar XK
Florida - BMW 760
Georgia - Nissan Leaf
Louisiana - BMW 760
New York - Cadillac Escalade EXT
Texas - Cadillac Escalade EXT

Considering this site is called “The Chive” one could assume they are an aspiring Onion.

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Jay in Oregon  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:56:39am

I am just about done with the Bernie or Busters in my life.

I’ve got them in my Facebook feed lamenting that we will almost certainly end up with a Trump presidency. And these are people who are (or at least claim to be) concerned about LGBT rights, civil rights, etc.

But their hurt feelings are far more important than working to prevent this things that they claim to be so worried about. It’s a passive-aggressive “if you’d LISTENED to us, then we wouldn’t have let this happen!”

(But boy oh boy, don’t you DARE call them entitled, or naïve! Just because they loudly proclaim that they’re going to stand by and not lift a finger to defeat Trump—who is in EVERY WAY worse than what they imagine Clinton to be—doesn’t mean they’re being childish…)

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:56:50am

re: #488 HappyWarrior

So the flag of Honduras doesn’t even look close to the service flag that Kaine was in fact wearing. It really proves what I’ve said before. People don’t bother researching information because they want their bias validated. They want Tim Kaine to appear to care more about Honduras than the US.

A) yes, and

B) GOP staffers are pigshit-ignorant when it actually comes to the details of the stuff they claim to revere, like the Marines

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:57:12am

re: #496 iossarian

Don’t those things usually pick out cars that a state buys more than other states?

link says “most in demand car” which is probably different from sales. Still pretty wacko. How can the Nissan Leaf be high in demand? The Kia Forte?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:58:07am

re: #487 Mike Lamb

First, there was nothing about it that indicated he was joking.

Second, why on earth would anyone believe that Trump has earned that kind of good faith to assume he wasn’t being serious.

Distractions, distractions: was he joking or not?

Endless debate

Key issue: is he qualified or not?

ignored

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:58:08am

re: #484 Dr. Matt

No way that an Escalade is the most purchased car in NY. Or even NYC. Or anywhere in NYS.

In 2014, the most sold car in NY was the Honda CR-V. Don’t think that’s changed.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:58:52am

re: #498 Jay in Oregon

I am just about done with the Bernie or Busters in my life.

I’ve got them in my Facebook feed lamenting that we will almost certainly end up with a Trump presidency. And these are people who are (or at least claim to be) concerned about LGBT rights, civil rights, etc.

But their hurt feelings are far more important than working to prevent this things that they claim to be so worried about. It’s a passive-aggressive “if you’d LISTENED to us, then we wouldn’t have let this happen!”

(But boy oh boy, don’t you DARE call them entitled, or naïve! Just because they loudly proclaim that they’re going to stand by and not lift a finger to defeat Trump—who is in EVERY WAY worse than what they imagine Clinton to be—doesn’t mean they’re being childish…)

I’m seeing more or less the same thing. It’s emotional blackmail on their part. “Well if only you had given us Bernie like we wanted, we wouldn’t be pouting the way we are now.” And it’s like dude that’s now how it works. The pathetic thing is if Clinton’s people acted even close to this if Sanders had won, they’d rightfully be furious but because it’s them, their precious feelings have to be maintained. I wasn’t a Clinton supporter for some of the primary but I have an even less tolerance for bullshit and I’ve seen a lot of bullshit from her opponents that I just don’t like.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:59:18am

re: #499 iossarian

A) yes, and

B) GOP staffers are pigshit-ignorant when it actually comes to the details of the stuff they claim to revere, like the Marines

Yeah that was the best part, that it was in fact something for the USMC.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 8:59:48am

re: #484 Dr. Matt

The most purchased car in each state (52 Photos)

A quick sanity check……I highly question their methodology judging by a few of these results:

Alabama - Kia Forte
District of Columbia - Jaguar XK
Florida - BMW 760
Georgia - Nissan Leaf
Louisiana - BMW 760
New York - Cadillac Escalade EXT
Texas - Cadillac Escalade EXT

More people in Florida can afford a 7-series BMW than a Chevy Spark? color me unconvinced.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:00:20am

re: #502 lawhawk

No way that an Escalade is the most purchased car in NY. Or even NYC. Or anywhere in NYS.

In 2014, the most sold car in NY was the Honda CR-V. Don’t think that’s changed.

Alabama does make the KIA, though—300,000/yr in Montgomery and across the river in West Point GA. Probably offers an employee discount.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:00:43am

re: #435 ObserverArt

Bummer for the MOPAR fans. A long long history. Another memory of the past in Detroit.

FCA’s cars that sell - the Challenger, the Charger, the Chrysler 300 - are still being built, in Brampton Ontario.

The Dodge Dart and the Chrysler 200 just aren’t selling.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:01:19am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

[Embedded content]

Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

Trump and Morgan. They deserve each other.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:02:14am

I think it’s easier to be an “outsider” type in politics than insider. Being an outsider means you can just shit on the whole process from afar acting like you’d do better than those corrupt insiders. And it’s true the insiders do make a lot of wheels and deals. They also pass a lot of things too. A lot of people would rather hear someone give platitudes about how the system sucks and “I’ll fix it” than listen to someone who can say “Listen, I’ve been in this system a long time, it has its ugly moments but when we work together and realize we are more than mere platitudes we can and do get things done.”

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Stanley Sea  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:03:26am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

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Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

He doubled down with a tweet. Everyone seems to be forgetting that.

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No Depression  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:03:58am

re: #484 Dr. Matt

The most purchased car in each state (52 Photos)

A quick sanity check……I highly question their methodology judging by a few of these results:

Alabama - Kia Forte
District of Columbia - Jaguar XK
Florida - BMW 760
Georgia - Nissan Leaf
Louisiana - BMW 760
New York - Cadillac Escalade EXT
Texas - Cadillac Escalade EXT

This is the methodology used:

If you were to take a list of the most popular cars in each state in the U.S., it’d be a pretty monotonous list. A bunch of Ford F-150s, some Chevy Silverado and Ram pickups, the odd Honda Accord or Toyota Camry here or there.

But we were curious: What car was the most distinctive in each state? What model of car did, say, California buy far more often than any other state in the Union? We turned to auto analyst Tom Libby of IHS Automotive to help us crunch the numbers. First, Libby pulled data about the make and model of every car sold in the U.S., and calculated the popularity of each by percentage using registration data. Then, he did the same at the state level, and compared each state to the national average.

“I compared the share for each model in, for instance, Alabama with the share of the same of model in the United States and came up with a ratio,” says Libby. “Then I basically ranked those ratios within each state. It’s an interesting methodology—you’re basically able to compare the individual demand of a model in a state with the individual demand at the national level, and see what ways is each state unique from the nation.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:04:18am

re: #510 Stanley Sea

He doubled down with a tweet. Everyone seems to be forgetting that.

That’s a good point too.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:04:48am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wet morning here in the Ohio River Valley.
Still raining in the Backwoods but not too bad yet, with just .61 inch so far (3.5” total over the last couple of days). The next wave has just arrived as I am typing this, so it’s going to get interesting…

And once again here in Columbus a little sprinkle activity in my area. I swear I am under some kind of a “dry” bubble or something.

Maybe we get some later.

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Teukka  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:05:03am

So, a thief decides to try to do his deed with the cover of selling his magazine. Decides to try to pick the phone(s) of two wimminz. Unfortunately for him, the two wimminz were cops… Mikaela Kellner, one of the arresting officers, is quoted as saying “it’s the first time in 11 years as a cop I detain someone while in a bikini.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:05:06am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

I’m seeing more or less the same thing. It’s emotional blackmail on their part. “Well if only you had given us Bernie like we wanted, we wouldn’t be pouting the way we are now.” And it’s like dude that’s now how it works. The pathetic thing is if Clinton’s people acted even close to this if Sanders had won, they’d rightfully be furious but because it’s them, their precious feelings have to be maintained. I wasn’t a Clinton supporter for some of the primary but I have an even less tolerance for bullshit and I’ve seen a lot of bullshit from her opponents that I just don’t like.

It’s classic DARVO, “I’m the victim here, you put me in this position!” They don’t want to take responsibility for their part in ensuring a Trump presidency, they want to feel as though they’re the victims because they didn’t get their pony. If we’d just gone along with what they wanted, everything would be sunshine and rainbows and the party would be united behind our progressive messiah. But no, we had to decide that he was too flawed a candidate, we had to select somebody we thought could govern, and now we’re responsible for their decision to either sit home and pout or vote Green to assuage their “conscience.”

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:06:24am

re: #511 No Depression

This is the methodology used:

So, it’s about what that state bought more of than any other state, sort of. But that doesn’t even make sense because it has NY and TX with the same care.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:06:24am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

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Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

Remember the kerfuffle when someone asked if she’d wiped the server, and she quipped, “What, with a dustrag?”

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:08:03am

re: #301 Dark_Falcon

There’s a difference between local, state, congressional, and presidential votes. I can vote Republican for governor and still vote Democrat for the Chicago Metropolitan Water Reclamation District, and I have. I also not vote for Trump and still vote Republican for the House and Senate, especially since Mark Kirk is no friend of Trump.

Kirk…blah!

But then I am in Ohio and we have Johnny (Some think he has his head on straight) Kasich. Blah!

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:08:58am

re: #516 Belafon

So, it’s about what that state bought more of than any other state, sort of. But that doesn’t even make sense because it has NY and TX with the same care.

It’s against the national average - my interpretation is that it’s the car in each state where:

state share / national share

has the highest value. So multiple states could have the same car come out on top.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:10:16am

re: #515 Targetpractice

It’s classic DARVO, “I’m the victim here, you put me in this position!” They don’t want to take responsibility for their part in ensuring a Trump presidency, they want to feel as though they’re the victims because they didn’t get their pony. If we’d just gone along with what they wanted, everything would be sunshine and rainbows and the party would be united behind our progressive messiah. But no, we had to decide that he was too flawed a candidate, we had to select somebody we thought could govern, and now we’re responsible for their decision to either sit home and pout or vote Green to assuage their “conscience.”

And that’s another thing, they complain about how the DNC is “forcing” unity behind Clinton. Do we really think they’d be generous to be people with reservations about Sanders? But yeah as you say, it’s they think if you had just given us our way, all would be fine. And here’s the thing that some of the really naive Busters don’t get, Jill Stein would have started crapping on Bernie the same way she has Clinton. She’d find things in his record to make him out to be less than progressive. So, those Sanders voters who are flirting with Stein are in fact flirting with someone who would screw their candidate over in a heartbeat. What pisses me off are the types like Goodman who are pretty much going “Man I hope those Clinton supporters get what they deserve with Trump.” A lot of the people who will be negatively impacted by a Trump presidency are people who can’t even vote.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:10:24am

re: #516 Belafon

So, it’s about what that state bought more of than any other state, sort of. But that doesn’t even make sense because it has NY and TX with the same care.

By state, which car purchases most exceeded the statistical norm
Is a terrible headline…

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:10:49am

HA!

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“Control” by Pawel Kuczynski.
Follow: @urbanspoon

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:11:07am

So wingnuts are frothing over some dumb fake Craigslist ad that advertised for “Minorities to populate DNC seats & hold up Hillary signs”

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Jenner7  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:11:10am

re: #517 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember. It was her first press conference since she announced and I thought she totally blew it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:12:05am

re: #523 The Vicious Babushka

So wingnuts are frothing over some dumb fake Craigslist ad that advertised for “Minorities to populate DNC seats & hold up Hillary signs”

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This is pretty damn funny considering your guy actually did in fact pay people to appear at his campaign kickoff, Jim.

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Skip Intro  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:13:22am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:13:24am

re: #519 iossarian

It’s against the national average - my interpretation is that it’s the car in each state where:

state share / national share

has the highest value. So multiple states could have the same car come out on top.

Even then, it seems to be comparing the top of a rank order rather than an absolute number. Sort of “What state eats the largest discrepancy between pizza and Reubens?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:16:55am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:18:59am

re: #528 FormerDirtDart

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Here’s the page where 538 publishes a history-based “grade” for each poll they use:

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:19:21am

re: #528 FormerDirtDart

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He’s not going to win Pennsylvania. He just isn’t. Everyone wants to portray a city like Pittsburgh as a post-industrial wasteland but Pittsburgh has actually been doing pretty well for itself as of late. My great grandmother’s neighborhood even has become the hipster part of the city.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:20:37am

re: #530 HappyWarrior

He’s not going to win Pennsylvania. He just isn’t. Everyone wants to portray a city like Pittsburgh as a post-industrial wasteland but Pittsburgh has actually been doing pretty well for itself as of late. My great grandmother’s neighborhood even has become the hipster part of the city.

Most of my old neighborhoods have become parking lots for Duquesne, the stadium, etc.

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ipsos  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:22:12am

re: #530 HappyWarrior

Trump will probably (and sadly) win the “T”, as the voters of Scranton and Altoona and the Mon Valley obligingly vote completely against their best interests just so the Other doesn’t get an edge on them.

But Philly and Pittsburgh and especially the Philly suburbs will come out strongly enough against Trump to give Hillary an easy win there.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:23:27am

re: #531 Decatur Deb

Most of my old neighborhoods have become parking lots for Duquesne, the stadium, etc.

Lawrenceville has apparently became very hipsterified. Not sure about Manchester. My German relations lived in Troy Hill and Deutschtown (which is where that blacksmith shop I showed you was).

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:24:15am

re: #379 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Looking more closely, the meme’d image does look ‘shopped. Can we get the Rage Furby on the case to see if we have pixels of differing sizes?

Still behind so probably answered…yes that “wall” was up there on Monday. By Tuesday (I think) it was replaced by small Plexiglas dividers. I noticed the small clear dividers last night.

I commented on it Monday when I saw some Trump people posting about it elsewhere.

To me they probably figured out with that huge row of steps up to the stage security wouldn’t be able to control any rush to the stage. And who would rush it? I think we know.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:25:21am

re: #532 ipsos

Trump will probably (and sadly) win the “T”, as the voters of Scranton and Altoona and the Mon Valley obligingly vote completely against their best interests just so the Other doesn’t get an edge on them.

But Philly and Pittsburgh and especially the Philly suburbs will come out strongly enough against Trump to give Hillary an easy win there.

Right, the cities and the Philly burbs will be the saving grace. I do think Clinton will actually do a little better in Scranton, Altoona, and the Mon valley though. I like Obama but if he’s ever had a weak spot, it was among voters like that but that’s okay, it’s not enough to tip the election to the GOP and it sure as hell isn’t his fault.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:26:23am

re: #383 lawhawk

Yup, that’s bullshit. Because Gettyimages shows that there wasn’t anything there even when the President spoke:

gettyimages.com

gettyimages.com

ETC.

I guess many Lizards weren’t paying attention!

: ) The “wall” was there. The images real

Dammit…I hate being behind.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:28:07am

In the end, I seem to be noticing that Clinton really never polls below 40 but Trump often does. That is to say I think Clinton is starting at a higher floor than Donald is and has a higher ceiling too.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:29:24am

re: #534 ObserverArt

Still behind so probably answered…yes that “wall” was up there on Monday. By Tuesday (I think) it was replaced by small Plexiglas dividers. I noticed the small clear dividers last night.

I commented on it Monday when I saw some Trump people posting about it elsewhere.

To me they probably figured out with that huge row of steps up to the stage security wouldn’t be able to control any rush to the stage. And who would rush it? I think we know.

The plexiglass between you and the bad-neighborhood convenience store clerk will stop anything up to 9mm at whispering range. (Don’t know what the venue has.) A 4x8 sheet of 1.25 inch weighs about 150 lbs.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:30:26am

re: #412 Decatur Deb

It’s a glass barrier. Probably be shattered with the others before this is over.

Yeah…Plexigas.

I wish I was reading these comments earlier. I think some of them are…ahhh. awkward. Especially when on Monday many RWNJs were making a stink about it.

Much to do ‘bout nutin’!

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dharmamark  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:32:31am

Anyone have a source for who’s on the ballots in the individual states? My Google fu is failing me…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:33:57am

re: #522 Dr. Matt

But I picked Charmander. :P

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:34:54am

re: #536 ObserverArt

But the “wall” wasn’t on the stage like in the photoshop. :)

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:36:15am

re: #479 Jenner7

Donald Trump retweeted this:

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Joke? Do people honestly think a presidential candidate should joke about Russia hacking the US?!?

Imagine if Hillary said that? She’d be treated VERY differently.

The joke is Piers Morgan.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:37:57am

re: #520 HappyWarrior

And that’s another thing, they complain about how the DNC is “forcing” unity behind Clinton. Do we really think they’d be generous to be people with reservations about Sanders? But yeah as you say, it’s they think if you had just given us our way, all would be fine. And here’s the thing that some of the really naive Busters don’t get, Jill Stein would have started crapping on Bernie the same way she has Clinton. She’d find things in his record to make him out to be less than progressive. So, those Sanders voters who are flirting with Stein are in fact flirting with someone who would screw their candidate over in a heartbeat. What pisses me off are the types like Goodman who are pretty much going “Man I hope those Clinton supporters get what they deserve with Trump.” A lot of the people who will be negatively impacted by a Trump presidency are people who can’t even vote.

One of the questions I started asking Bros around the time Bernie began making noise about a “contested convention” and his campaign saying they’d court superdelegates was “What if he succeeds?” What if the DNC superdelegates came together, decided that Bernie was their best chance at the White House, and overturned the results of the primaries to crown him. How would they handle people like them, those Democrats who would spurn the party’s choice and refuse to vote for Bernie? Most refused to answer, but one pretty much said what I expected: “They’ll vote for Bernie because they’re afraid of Trump.” Not because Bernie has the better ideas, not because he’s the better candidate, but the very fear of Trump that they insist they won’t give into.

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Testy Toad T  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:38:32am

re: #543 ObserverArt

The joke is Piers Morgan.

He appeals to somebody, right? He has to, or he wouldn’t be on TV.

I’ve heard people defend basically everything under the sun, but not once in my life have I ever heard anybody express any sort of support for Piers Morgan.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:39:46am

re: #507 Blind Frog Belly White

FCA’s cars that sell - the Challenger, the Charger, the Chrysler 300 - are still being built, in Brampton Ontario.

The Dodge Dart and the Chrysler 200 just aren’t selling.

I know…it’s just sad no more MOPAR ‘cars’ are built in America..

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:42:19am

re: #412 Decatur Deb

It’s a glass barrier. Probably be shattered with the others before this is over.

I have binders full of updings I would like to give you.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:42:22am

re: #514 Teukka

So, a thief decides to try to do his deed with the cover of selling his magazine. Decides to try to pick the phone(s) of two wimminz. Unfortunately for him, the two wimminz were cops… Mikaela Kellner, one of the arresting officers, is quoted as saying “it’s the first time in 11 years as a cop I detain someone while in a bikini.”

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Dang, Mikaela looks like she is in fine shape. She looks like she has some well developed thighs…arms too.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:43:36am

Dios mio, the whining.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:43:45am

re: #544 Targetpractice

One of the questions I started asking Bros around the time Bernie began making noise about a “contested convention” and his campaign saying they’d court superdelegates was “What if he succeeds?” What if the DNC superdelegates came together, decided that Bernie was their best chance at the White House, and overturned the results of the primaries to crown him. How would they handle people like them, those Democrats who would spurn the party’s choice and refuse to vote for Bernie? Most refused to answer, but one pretty much said what I expected: “They’ll vote for Bernie because they’re afraid of Trump.” Not because Bernie has the better ideas, not because he’s the better candidate, but the very fear of Trump that they insist they won’t give into.

I saw one of hte ones I know suggesting that they’d use the convention to nominate Bernie because that’s how FDR was nominated. They really are all about the “people” until the people get in their way. It’s why I’ve taken to calling them undemocratic. I have no issue with someone who voted for Bernie wanting his issues heard. He did in fact run as a Democrat so it’s fair that he gets his issues heard but to the point of overturning the votes of actual Democrats to nominate him because of hypothetical polls about Bernie vs Trump when Bernie has not gotten any real outside GOP attacks? Nope I ain’t doing that nor should anyone.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:43:46am

re: #523 The Vicious Babushka

So wingnuts are frothing over some dumb fake Craigslist ad that advertised for “Minorities to populate DNC seats & hold up Hillary signs”

Is it my imagination of does SMOTI say Wow! a lot to start his lame tweets?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:44:16am

re: #545 Testy Toad T

He appeals to somebody, right? He has to, or he wouldn’t be on TV.

I’ve heard people defend basically everything under the sun, but not once in my life have I ever heard anybody express any sort of support for Piers Morgan.

Everyone seems to hate that guy. Right wingers hate him because he hates guns. Liberals hate him because of shit like this.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:44:51am

re: #523 The Vicious Babushka

So wingnuts are frothing over some dumb fake Craigslist ad that advertised for “Minorities to populate DNC seats & hold up Hillary signs”

Translation: The DNC’s been great. Speeches were great. Obama was great. We got nothin.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:45:56am

re: #549 jaunte

Dems are enthralled by an American politician who can speak Spanish. Unless his name is Jeb or Marco.
— S.E. Cupp

Translation: Kaine’s gonna be a great VP.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:46:03am

re: #538 Decatur Deb

The plexiglass between you and the bad-neighborhood convenience store clerk will stop anything up to 9mm at whispering range. (Don’t know what the venue has.) A 4x8 sheet of 1.25 inch weighs about 150 lbs.

I’d hate to consider what a sheet that thick would cost. Plexiglas is not cheap.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:47:18am

What is said matters to Spanish speaking voters, not just the language spoken.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:47:46am

re: #545 Testy Toad T

He appeals to somebody, right? He has to, or he wouldn’t be on TV.

I’ve heard people defend basically everything under the sun, but not once in my life have I ever heard anybody express any sort of support for Piers Morgan.

Maybe Milo!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:48:14am

Honestly, I think the word revolution is so often abused by people. Revolutions should be rare. And to be quite honest, the people who get screwed the most in revolutoins are the people who the revolutions are supposedly done for. I’m not saying that things like the American or French revolution were unnecessary, I’m saying that revolution shouldn’t be your go to card when you don’t like the way things are. Work for change from within. There was an early 20th century German socialist named Eduard Bernstein who got this and and honestly in some ways he was much more revolutionary minded in his ideas (he expressed support for LGBT rights for example) than the actual Marxists who called him a traitor because he didn’t think a foll revolution was needed. Change should be constant. Revolution should be rare. Make sense?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:49:39am

re: #549 jaunte

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Dios mio, the whining.

Oh cry me a river. Our problems with Rubio and Bush were because of policy and the fact that Rubio especially even though he loved talking about his dear old immigrant parents had a record hostile to other children of immigrants and immigrants.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:49:50am

re: #556 jaunte

What is said matters to Spanish speaking voters, not just the language spoken.

Oh yeah, that.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:49:53am

re: #558 HappyWarrior

Work for change from within.

So much harder than banging on things.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:50:29am

OFFS. It never ends with this nut:

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:50:48am

re: #549 jaunte

Dios mio, the whining.

Twitter was made for Republicans like her. Their worldview consists of thoughts that can fit in 140 characters and have no relation to the next thought they hold, and two adjacent thoughts may even contradict each other.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:50:58am

re: #556 jaunte

What is said matters to Spanish speaking voters, not just the language spoken.

Kaine made a nice point about that.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:51:06am

re: #561 jaunte

So much harder than banging on things.

or wearing “silenced” tape gags.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:51:10am

re: #549 jaunte

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Dios mio, the whining.

Maybe the Dems like what was being said in Spanish.

S E takes herself way too seriously. She has a very high “think highly of themselves” rating.

Another case of an attractive woman that is actually ugly. In my opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:51:34am

re: #562 lawhawk

OFFS. It never ends with this nut:

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What an idiot.

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:51:35am

re: #549 jaunte

Ummm, might it be that some of that “enthrallment” just may be because Tim Kaine is a Democrat, and that Jeb! and Marco aren’t??

Not that Republicans were too thrilled by those guys, either……

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:51:40am

Speaking of SMOTI, here’s some spectacular Derp

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:52:40am

re: #565 Sir John Barron

or wearing “silenced” tape gags.

The interview with the taped up woman was great.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:52:41am

re: #569 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking of SMOTI, here’s some spectacular Derp

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Lashes out? Again Jim, you need to see someone about your projection. Obama didn’t lash out at anyone. He did call out your stupid bigot of a candidate who plays to their resentments though you stupid fuck.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:52:48am

re: #555 ObserverArt

I’d hate to consider what a sheet that thick would cost. Plexiglas is not cheap.

But compared with transparent aluminum? //

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:53:12am

Hey Dim Jim all I know is that I was unemployed for 6 years when Bush was President, almost gave up ever finding a job again, and then went back to work after the GM bailout.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:53:20am

re: #568 Jay C

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Ummm, might it be that some of that “enthrallment” just may be because Tim Kaine is a Democrat, and that Jeb! and Marco aren’t??

Not that Republicans were too thrilled by those guys, either……

It’s like when they call Democrats bigots because they criticized Ben Carson. It’s typical conservative passive aggressive bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:53:31am

re: #563 Belafon

Twitter was made for Republicans like her. Their worldview consists of thoughts that can fit in 140 characters and have no relation to the next thought they hold, and two adjacent thoughts may even contradict each other.

And Twitter was made for modern news media. They just install some unpaid intern to do what they would be doing at home anyways, and then just tell them what is currently trending and turn that into a news story in itself. Minimum overhead, maximum fluffiness and affirmation

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electrotek  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:54:12am

German festival bans backpacks and bags due to recent terror attacks

“Due to the recent events we decided that backpacks and all kind of bags are no longer allowed on the festival grounds,” said Jensen. 85,000 people are expected to attend the metal festival next month.

Elsewhere, Yo Van Saet, director of Belgium’s Rock Werchter festival, also told Billboard that Rock Werchter, along with a number of other Belgian festivals, including Pukkelpop and Tomorrowland, will install special metal detection gates at their festival sites.

Backpacks and bags should have been banned to begin with. Even before the rise of Da’esh, I always worried about whether someone could come in to a festival (especially Coachella when I went in 2013 and 2014) with an explosive device in their backpack since security was never comprehensive. I mean, if people can sneak in drugs, it’s a no-brainer that someone can sneak an explosive device into the festival grounds and inflict massive damage on a grand scale.

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Kilroy01  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:54:27am

re: #572 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

But compared with transparent aluminum? //

(FYI it is real)
Link

Bulletproof glass[edit]
As a transparent armor material, it provides a bulletproof product with far less weight and thickness than traditional bulletproof glass. It has been dubbed Transparent aluminum (per Star Trek).[10] 1.6” thick ALON armor is capable of stopping .50 BMG armor-piercing rounds, which can penetrate 3.7” of traditional glass laminate.[1

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:54:48am

It’s not often that wingnuts are so blatantly honest in their memes==>

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:54:56am

re: #568 Jay C

Dems are enthralled by an American politician who can speak Spanish. Unless his name is Jeb or Marco.

They love their guy more than they love ours? As if speaking Spanish was his only defining or redeeming trait?

THEY GOT NOTHIN’

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:54:58am

Republicans didn’t like Jeb and Rubio much either so I don’t know what Cupp’s “point” if she has one at all is. I am impressed that Jeb and Rubio can speak Spanish, I’m less than impressed that they belong to a party that scapegoats people including many Spanish speakers.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:55:30am

re: #566 ObserverArt

Maybe the Dems like what was being said in Spanish.

S E takes herself way too seriously. She has a very high “think highly of themselves” rating.

Another case of an attractive woman that is actually ugly. In my opinion.

Watched her a lot during CNN’s primary coverage and was actually surprised how sensible she was much of the time, wasn’t a Trump fan.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:56:00am

re: #580 HappyWarrior

Republicans didn’t like Jeb and Rubio much either so I don’t know what Cupp’s “point” if she has one at all is. I am impressed that Jeb and Rubio can speak Spanish, I’m less than impressed that they belong to a party that scapegoats people including many Spanish speakers.

You may have heard I have binders full of updings to give out today….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:56:13am

What a horrible garbage human being==>

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:56:31am

re: #580 HappyWarrior

Republicans didn’t like Jeb and Rubio much either so I don’t know what Cupp’s “point” if she has one at all is.

Haha yeah. This.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:57:16am

re: #578 The Vicious Babushka

It’s not often that wingnuts are so blatantly honest in their memes==>

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There’s not a single conty where Obama won 100% of the vote. As for overwhelming vote percentages, that doesn’t prove fraud. There are some very small predominately white counties that go over 80 and even 90% for Republicans. What Republicans don’t get is that they’ve done their share to alienate minority voters and that’s why they lose the cities where many minority voters live by so much.

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Kilroy01  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:57:53am

re: #578 The Vicious Babushka

Stupid lies are so easy to check. If they cared about the truth.
factcheck.org

This email claims there was “massive voter fraud” in a handful of U.S. states, but nearly all of the examples given are wrong or completely fabricated. (One is mostly true, but lacks context.) The anonymous author of this bogus tirade may want to believe that votes were falsely recorded for President Obama, but the supposed “evidence” cited in the email is simply imaginary.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:58:00am

re: #578 The Vicious Babushka

It’s not often that wingnuts are so blatantly honest in their memes==>

[Embedded content]

Realists know that DT cannot win, so they have to start doing everything they can to make it look like HRC stole the election…after having stolen the nomination.

Expect to hear no end of charges of fraud, manipulation and irregularities.

But she will still win, at which point the impeachment proceedings will commence within three months and take up so much of Congress’ time that they are no longer able to govern.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:58:33am

re: #579 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They love their guy more than they love ours? As if speaking Spanish was his only defining or redeeming trait?

THEY GOT NOTHIN’

Yeah I noticed that she ignored that Kaine also talked about his Civil Rights and housing work too. They also can’t call him a dreaded limousine liberal too since his kids not only went ot public schools but Richmond’s predominately African-American public school system. Kaine like his father in law is some one woh lives by his actions.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:59:12am

re: #583 The Vicious Babushka

What a horrible garbage human being==>

Already pre-emptively blocked this ghoul.

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Interesting Times  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:59:36am

Facebook Post

By “haters”, I’m assuming he means left and right pro-Putin trolls who meet at the point of moronic convergence.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:59:47am

Intersting…just got an email from PayPal about their class action lawsuit settlement.

Ahhh. Disputed transactions on PayPal accounts and improperly placed holds and reserves on accounts or closed or suspended accounts Plaintiffs allege PayPal failed to provide annual error-resolution notices and monthly account statements under the Electronic Fund Transfer Act.

Don’t tell me a company partially founded by Elon Musk and Peter Thiel was up to funny business! /

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:59:53am

re: #583 The Vicious Babushka

What a horrible garbage human being==>

[Embedded content]

Democrats trying to manipulate an election and shape an election in their own country? Why how dare! One guy I went to college with made this same moronic talking point. It’s idiotic. Stein is proving once again that she’s a Russian stooge.

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electrotek  Jul 28, 2016 • 9:59:58am

re: #586 Kilroy01

Stupid lies are so easy to check. If they cared about the truth.
factcheck.org

It seems like it’s self-defeating these days.

You’d figure social media would help make people smarter and more informed, but if anything, it’s making people easily deceived by lies put forth by certain demagogues.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:00:56am

re: #583 The Vicious Babushka

What a horrible garbage human being==>

[Embedded content]

I thought DNC staffers were caught complaining about a group that was trying to co-opt the party they had worked to build. Was there anything more to it than that?

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electrotek  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:01:01am

re: #590 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

By “haters”, I’m assuming he means left and right pro-Putin trolls who meet at the point of moronic convergence.

Stuff like this helps reinforce why I’ve been a Moby fan since 1997 as a middle school kid getting into electronic music at that time.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:01:33am

re: #576 electrotek

German festival bans backpacks and bags due to recent terror attacks

Backpacks and bags should have been banned to begin with. Even before the rise of Da’esh, I always worried about whether someone could come in to a festival (especially Coachella when I went in 2013 and 2014) with an explosive device in their backpack since security was never comprehensive. I mean, if people can sneak in drugs, it’s a no-brainer that someone can sneak an explosive device into the festival grounds and inflict massive damage on a grand scale.

I guess Atlanta Olympic Park in ‘96 still hasn’t caught up to some of the world’s security teams.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:01:56am

re: #584 Sir John Barron

Haha yeah. This.

In fact, we’ve been using their words against Trump a lot in our ads too so maybe we “like” them more than S.E. Cupp thinks hehe. I don’t like Rubio and Bush but it has nothing to do with them being able to speak Spanish. In fact, I’d respect Rubio so much more if he could actually show the same empathy towards other first generation Americans and immigrants that he has gotten as a Cuban-American. As for Jeb, I always did appreciate that he was one of the less douchey Republicans on immigrants. I will admit that I did mock his brother’s Spanish. I will also concede that I was 13 and that I didn’t realize that W wasn’t full of shit on immigration.

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piratedan  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:02:38am

re: #549 jaunte

perhaps SE… just perhaps… its actually the content of what he’s saying in Spanish, rather than the Spanish itself. Feel free to cite all the times that Marco and Jeb felt compelled to speak to their voters in Spanish… we’ll wait.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:02:49am

re: #590 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

By “haters”, I’m assuming he means left and right pro-Putin trolls who meet at the point of moronic convergence.

This is a good tweet. It’s full of perspective, something that both lefty and righty purer than thou types should learn.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:03:06am

re: #581 Sir John Barron

Watched her a lot during CNN’s primary coverage and was actually surprised how sensible she was much of the time, wasn’t a Trump fan.

I just not impressed with her delivery. Yeah, sometimes she makes sense.

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BlackPearl  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:03:23am

re: #576 electrotek

German festival bans backpacks and bags due to recent terror attacks

Backpacks and bags should have been banned to begin with. Even before the rise of Da’esh, I always worried about whether someone could come in to a festival (especially Coachella when I went in 2013 and 2014) with an explosive device in their backpack since security was never comprehensive. I mean, if people can sneak in drugs, it’s a no-brainer that someone can sneak an explosive device into the festival grounds and inflict massive damage on a grand scale.

Uh, my understanding was that people CAMP at Wacken. My boss’ boss’ boss (or something) mentioned once that he and his friends had a huge RV there one year and were too busy partying to even make it to the shows. :) How do you camp without bags?

People already check your bags on the gate into the stage area. Why wouldn’t that work? After all, the guy who blew himself up did it at a bar BECAUSE he was stopped at the gate.

Outside the stage gate, inside the festival, people need bags to do things like carry a tent. And beer. Beer is vital. (And they do check your bags at the outer gate as well, for glass and weapons.)

I was at a festival in Cologne last weekend and will go to another in August, so it’s not like I’m not concerned. But this sounds dumb.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:05:00am

re: #583 The Vicious Babushka

What a horrible garbage human being==>

Dr. Jill Stein ✔ @DrJillStein
Democrats are now accusing Russia of manipulating our presidential election… exactly what DNC was caught doing. #DNCleak
4:02 PM - 27 Jul 2016
8,984 8,984 Retweets 10,569 10,569 likes

The things you have to do to be forgotten as a Presidential candidate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:05:33am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:05:56am

re: #586 Kilroy01

Stupid lies are so easy to check. If they cared about the truth.
factcheck.org

As I’ve said, people get these stupid memes and they don’t bother to check them because they want their biases re-enforced. Just like they wanted Kaine to be wearing a flag pin with Honduras when in fact it was for the USMC and so many others. We have so much information out there, more than ever is available to the public but at the same time, that leads to a mass of misinformation too. Really if something said that Obama won 100% of a county, I would want to check into that because I would just be astonished if that was true, it was very easy to find that it was not true. There are certain places in this country where Democrats as well as Republicans get over 90% of the vote. It’s not new.

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Interesting Times  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:06:04am

re: #602 ObserverArt

How do you quote someone in a way that turns the tweet they posted into text? Whenever I do it, I see [Embedded Content]

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:06:26am

re: #583 The Vicious Babushka

What a horrible garbage human being==>

[Embedded content]

Another day, another desperate cry for attention from Dr. Stein.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:06:33am

re: #603 The Vicious Babushka

NO QUESTIONS FROM YOU, MISSY!!!!!!

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austin_blue  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:06:35am

re: #158 piratedan

tbh… I don’t think she has a fucking thing to apologize for and I would be disappointed if she did….

1) the SOS server was hacked…. not her personal server
2) she only set up a personal server because the NSA said she didn’t rate a secure e-mail system via their means
3) She made the same call that her GOP predecessors made in going the private route

The rest of this is just so much bullshit and I wish she could go right out there and say it, but the press would probably pass out and injuries would abound due to the lack of fainting couches.

I’d love to see her take a poser like Andrea Mitchell to the fucking woodshed just once and ask her why she seems to have a stick up her ass about her candidacy…

and if the NY Times dares to ask her anything just blow them off and tell them to simply go fuck themselves, as they’ve already established that it doesn’t matter what the fuck she says, they’re gonna spin it to make it appear that she’s lying, so why bother. I’ll see you fuckers in court.

I’d love to see her call them all out and say how is it that we can have a four years worth of GOP led witch hunts all around her person and not a single fucking indictment is leveled and no one can even get pissed off about the lack of Donald Trump’s tax returns and yet she’s the one who can’t be trusted. Would love for her to tell them to feel free to write what you want, I’m going to talk to the American people, at least they’ll actually listen to what I have to say.

and then end it by kicking Chuck Todd in the jewels and say that’s from America.

PD:

I would love it if the world was perfect, too. Sadly, this world is one where more than half of the population simply doesn’t trust HRC to be President.

So tonight’s speech will be critical to her success.

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electrotek  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:06:35am

re: #601 BlackPearl

Uh, my understanding was that people CAMP at Wacken. My boss’ boss’ boss (or something) mentioned once that he and his friends had a huge RV there one year and were too busy partying to even make it to the shows. :) How do you camp without bags?

People already check your bags on the gate into the stage area. Why wouldn’t that work? After all, the guy who blew himself up did it at a bar BECAUSE he was stopped at the gate.

Outside the stage gate, inside the festival, people need bags to do things like carry a tent. And beer. Beer is vital. (And they do check your bags at the outer gate as well, for glass and weapons.)

I was at a festival in Cologne last weekend and will go to another in August, so it’s not like I’m not concerned. But this sounds dumb.

Yeah I agree with what you’re saying, but I don’t blame them for taking these measures.

Although, how will it stop someone from doing so around patrons waiting in line outside the festival grounds? It just sucks to see the new reality seeping in for festivals in Europe (which are usually better than ones in America due to fewer douchebros and sorority girls in attendance).

Then again, Coachella went the extreme and did not even allow trash cans at the festival grounds in 2002.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:07:07am

IIRC Trump answered exactly 7 “questions” during the reddit AMA and they were all lame salad tossers like “What’s the best thing you ever ate at the Trump Grill”

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:07:08am

re: #587 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Realists know that DT cannot win, so they have to start doing everything they can to make it look like HRC stole the election…after having stolen the nomination.

Expect to hear no end of charges of fraud, manipulation and irregularities.

But she will still win, at which point the impeachment proceedings will commence within three months and take up so much of Congress’ time that they are no longer able to govern.

And then the BernieBots will invade Washington by the millions and…and…

Oh what am I thinking?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:07:49am

re: #610 The Vicious Babushka

IIRC Trump answered exactly 7 “questions” during the reddit AMA and they were all lame salad tossers like “What’s the best thing you ever ate at the Trump Grill”

Sounds like it was an important contribution to our understanding of the candidates.

///

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:08:39am

re: #608 austin_blue

PD:

I would love it if the world was perfect, too. Sadly, this world is one where more than half of the population simply doesn’t trust HRC to be President.

So tonight’s speech will be critical to her success.

Well, I doubt one speech is going to change many of those minds. This will be a continuance in the convention’s effort in bringing home the base.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:08:56am

re: #587 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Realists know that DT cannot win, so they have to start doing everything they can to make it look like HRC stole the election…after having stolen the nomination.

Expect to hear no end of charges of fraud, manipulation and irregularities.

But she will still win, at which point the impeachment proceedings will commence within three months and take up so much of Congress’ time that they are no longer able to govern.

So, basically, a rerun of the 90s.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:10:49am

re: #592 HappyWarrior

Democrats trying to manipulate an election and shape an election in their own country? Why how dare! One guy I went to college with made this same moronic talking point. It’s idiotic. Stein is proving once again that she’s a Russian stooge.

It’s unfortunate that the same County and State Election Boards also run party primaries as well as the general elections. It creates the illusion in too many people that primaries are governmental functions like the real elections when they emphatically are not.

I don’t know how to solve the problem other than going back to the smoke-filled rooms, and that wouldn’t work in this day and age—but people need to understand that a private organization choosing its candidates is nobody’s business who doesn’t belong to that organization.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:11:02am
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iossarian  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:11:21am

re: #549 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Dios mio, the whining.

I’d like to point out that it’s the Republican primary voters who sent Jeb and Marco packing.

Heal thyself, SE Cupp, heal thyself.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:11:39am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:11:45am

re: #617 iossarian

I’d like to point out that it’s the Republican primary voters who sent Jeb and Marco packing.

Heal thyself, SE Cupp, heal thyself.

Yeah, it’s kind of a strange complaint.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:11:54am

re: #616 darthstar

Frisco’s a great guy. Loves teaching kids how to play chess. Has three books on chess to his name.

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Franklin  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:12:16am

re: #562 lawhawk

OFFS. It never ends with this nut:

[Embedded content]

Exactly. It’s a business decision for him. He’d pay more in fines and retro-fit than he would to do it right the first time.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:12:45am

PHILADELPHIA—Claiming he had been “in way deeper shit plenty of times before,” Vice President Joe Biden was reportedly busted Wednesday in the Democratic National Convention parking lot for selling bootleg “I’m With Her” T-shirts. “Those cops cost me a good chunk of change when they yanked my merch, but luckily I’ve got an extra box of these babies stashed in the trunk of my Zam,” said Biden, who acknowledged the printing was a bit off-center on his knock-off shirts and that he had “completely blanked” on what Clinton’s logo looked like, but repeatedly insisted the unauthorized apparel was “pretty damn close.” “I could only snag these lousy black shirts, but I guarantee customers can’t beat my kickass prices. Look, you can get ripped off inside the arena for 35 bucks, or Uncle Joe can rip you off in the lot for way cheaper. The choice is fucking clear.” Biden, who was also selling plastic Frisbees bearing a large letter “H” scrawled in permanent black marker, confirmed that customers could also purchase a bag of mushrooms by using the code words “trip balls.”

theonion.com

I love how The Onion has had a hand in making “Uncle Joe” a legend.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:14:22am

re: #622 Barefoot Grin

PHILADELPHIA—Claiming he had been “in way deeper shit plenty of times before,” Vice President Joe Biden was reportedly busted Wednesday in the Democratic National Convention parking lot for selling bootleg “I’m With Her” T-shirts. “Those cops cost me a good chunk of change when they yanked my merch, but luckily I’ve got an extra box of these babies stashed in the trunk of my Zam,” said Biden, who acknowledged the printing was a bit off-center on his knock-off shirts and that he had “completely blanked” on what Clinton’s logo looked like, but repeatedly insisted the unauthorized apparel was “pretty damn close.” “I could only snag these lousy black shirts, but I guarantee customers can’t beat my kickass prices. Look, you can get ripped off inside the arena for 35 bucks, or Uncle Joe can rip you off in the lot for way cheaper. The choice is fucking clear.” Biden, who was also selling plastic Frisbees bearing a large letter “H” scrawled in permanent black marker, confirmed that customers could also purchase a bag of mushrooms by using the code words “trip balls.”

theonion.com

I love how The Onion has had a hand in making “Uncle Joe” a legend.

We will mourn the day that Uncle Joe drove his Trans Am off into the sunset.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:14:22am

re: #408 ipsos

The barrier is there in last night’s pictures, actually, if you look very closely at the bottom. Those Getty pics were shot from a high angle where the mass of the stage mostly obscures it.

And yes, it’s a USSS thing. Look pretty much anywhere POTUS appears and you’ll see it. I remember noticing a low barrier in front of Obama when he was on the Daily Show, even.

Partially crowd control, I suspect. And in some contexts (like when there’s a low barrier running on either side of the presidential lectern), I wouldn’t be surprised to find out it’s made of Kevlar to give POTUS something to dive behind in case he’s attacked.

Me? I’m glad there’s some protection against someone trying to rush the stage when POTUS is speaking. Seems pretty reasonable from where I sit.

The same glass partition can be seen upstairs by Bill Clinton and Michelle Obama. It is almost certainly a USSS thing so that their principals cannot be shot at.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:15:04am

re: #615 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s unfortunate that the same County and State Election Boards also run party primaries as well as the general elections. It creates the illusion in too many people that primaries are governmental functions like the real elections when they emphatically are not.

I don’t know how to solve the problem other than going back to the smoke-filled rooms, and that wouldn’t work in this day and age—but people need to understand that a private organization choosing its candidates is nobody’s business who doesn’t belong to that organization.

correct.it should also be noticed that the url for the DNC ends in .org not .gov. People need to understand that in our system, people from their party choose their candidates. And honestly this is a lot more democratic at least as we Americans would like than parliamentary style. Justin Trudeau wasn’t elected by the voters of Canada, his party was and his party in turn chose him to be Canada’s PM. If we had such a system like that here, Bernie’s not even in the running for top Dem since he wasn’t a Dem. And yeah there’s the past which a lot of people glamorize and don’t realize was filled with insiders who were mostly old white guys with cigars and scotch making the decisions. Some heated discussions among those guys but it wasn’t democratic.

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:16:01am

re: #619 Sir John Barron

Yeah, it’s kind of a strange complaint.

“Hypocritical Democrats love Tim Kaine while Republicans rejected Jeb and Marco”.

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BlackPearl  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:16:13am

re: #609 electrotek

I’m failing at figuring out whether bags will be disallowed in camping areas. It does look like the bans include the stages, and the markets, which will no doubt thrill the vendors.

Absolutely this kind of just moves the problem to the gates, though perhaps since Security won’t have to search bags the lines will be quicker and there will be less of a crowd backed up outside.

Sorry to knee-jerk react to this. I’ve been so pleased that Germany wasn’t falling all over itself in panic, that I just found this disappointing.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:17:01am

More batcrap left wing insanity, courtesy of the BoBs and Stein-nuts:

These fuckers are trying to Stop. Rep. John Lewis from entering the hall. They apparently think that this shows them in a positive light.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:17:16am

re: #622 Barefoot Grin

PHILADELPHIA—Claiming he had been “in way deeper shit plenty of times before,” Vice President Joe Biden was reportedly busted Wednesday in the Democratic National Convention parking lot for selling bootleg “I’m With Her” T-shirts. “Those cops cost me a good chunk of change when they yanked my merch, but luckily I’ve got an extra box of these babies stashed in the trunk of my Zam,” said Biden, who acknowledged the printing was a bit off-center on his knock-off shirts and that he had “completely blanked” on what Clinton’s logo looked like, but repeatedly insisted the unauthorized apparel was “pretty damn close.” “I could only snag these lousy black shirts, but I guarantee customers can’t beat my kickass prices. Look, you can get ripped off inside the arena for 35 bucks, or Uncle Joe can rip you off in the lot for way cheaper. The choice is fucking clear.” Biden, who was also selling plastic Frisbees bearing a large letter “H” scrawled in permanent black marker, confirmed that customers could also purchase a bag of mushrooms by using the code words “trip balls.”

theonion.com

I love how The Onion has had a hand in making “Uncle Joe” a legend.

Can the Onion please make up a fictional character of Kaine the way they have Biden? It will be difficult I concede to strike gold twice the way they did with Biden but come on Onion writers, there’s a lot of fun that can be had with Kaine too. A lot more than Pence whose actual persona is a character- doesn’t think cigarettes cause cancer and thinks a Disney film based off a 1000 Chinese ballad is liberal propaganda for women joining the military.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:17:40am

re: #445 HappyWarrior

Jane didn’t help that at all when she pretty much suggested that the people who voted for Clinton in the Southern primaries were too dumb to know better.

Perfect case of I Will Say Anything At All To Get Votes…including free healthcare and college for everyone!

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:18:03am

re: #578 The Vicious Babushka

It’s not often that wingnuts are so blatantly honest in their memes==>

[Embedded content]

They’re still going with those bogus stats—i.e. St Lucie had a multi-page ballot and the #s reflected the number of PAGES, not ballots. These people really are terminally stupid.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:18:04am

re: #623 Targetpractice

We will mourn the day that Uncle Joe drove his Trans Am off into the sunset.

With a glass of Hennessy in his hand on his way to his cabin to meet with the divorcees.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:18:32am

re: #605 Interesting Times

How do you quote someone in a way that turns the tweet they posted into text? Whenever I do it, I see [Embedded Content]

I copy the tweet text itself and then paste it to replace the brackets and Embedded Content message. And be sure to keep it in between the block quote brackets.

Sometimes I’ll add in another set of the “quote” brackets to make sure it is within a long comment so you have three indented areas.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:18:47am

re: #555 ObserverArt

I’d hate to consider what a sheet that thick would cost. Plexiglas is not cheap.

Salvaged one from such a convenience store. Thinking of using it as a cap for a storm shelter. (That’s how I know about the weight and impact resistance.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:18:58am

re: #628 lawhawk

More batcrap left wing insanity, courtesy of the BoBs and Stein-nuts:

[Embedded content]

These fuckers are trying to Stop. Rep. John Lewis from entering the hall. They apparently think that this shows them in a positive light.

Yeah stop a guy who has actually had his right to vote oppressed, great look guys, can you please stop calling yourselves progressives because you’re not.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:19:15am

re: #626 iossarian

“Hypocritical Democrats love Tim Kaine while Republicans rejected Jeb and Marco”.

Like Democrats are responsible for the GOP bouncing Jeb and Rubio.

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Skip Intro  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:19:42am

Former Staffer Says ‘Woefully Ignorant’ Sarah Palin Was Better Than Trump on Foreign Policy

Former Staffer Says ‘Woefully Ignorant’ Sarah Palin Was Better Than Trump on Foreign Policy

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electrotek  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:20:06am

re: #627 BlackPearl

I’m failing at figuring out whether bags will be disallowed in camping areas. It does look like the bans include the stages, and the markets, which will no doubt thrill the vendors.

Absolutely this kind of just moves the problem to the gates, though perhaps since Security won’t have to search bags the lines will be quicker and there will be less of a crowd backed up outside.

Sorry to knee-jerk react to this. I’ve been so pleased that Germany wasn’t falling all over itself in panic, that I just found this disappointing.

No apology needed, I definitely see where you’re coming from.

It was bound to happen with the season being peak festival season for the continent.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:20:13am

re: #471 lawhawk

Why are you going all Divergence on us? /

Is his Candor not refreshing?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:20:17am

re: #636 Sir John Barron

Like Democrats are responsible for the GOP bouncing Jeb and Rubio.

The funny thing is the Dems have actually run ads of Bush and Rubio both criticizing Trump. It’s true we don’t like them but it may also be true as I joked that Republicans may like them even less.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:20:43am

re: #628 lawhawk

More batcrap left wing insanity, courtesy of the BoBs and Stein-nuts:

[Embedded content]

These fuckers are trying to Stop. Rep. John Lewis from entering the hall. They apparently think that this shows them in a positive light.

They don’t understand that the use of force is not on their side.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:20:48am

re: #473 Decatur Deb

To be candid, you should show more amity.

GAH! I shudda kept reading. :-)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:21:27am

re: #637 Skip Intro

Former Staffer Says ‘Woefully Ignorant’ Sarah Palin Was Better Than Trump on Foreign Policy

[Embedded content]

That’s not saying much.

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Skip Intro  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:21:28am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:21:54am

re: #629 HappyWarrior

Can the Onion please make up a fictional character of Kaine the way they have Biden? It will be difficult I concede to strike gold twice the way they did with Biden but come on Onion writers, there’s a lot of fun that can be had with Kaine too. A lot more than Pence whose actual persona is a character- doesn’t think cigarettes cause cancer and thinks a Disney film based off a 1000 Chinese ballad is liberal propaganda for women joining the military.

With Kaine it might have to be some kind of over-the-top social justice VP. You’re right, though, it’s no fun when they already are real-life examples of the worst of humanity, like Pence and Trump.

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iossarian  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:22:50am

re: #637 Skip Intro

Former Staffer Says ‘Woefully Ignorant’ Sarah Palin Was Better Than Trump on Foreign Policy

[Embedded content]

If you could splice Palin and Trump together, imagine the press conference possibilities:

“Putin’s rearing his head over Alaska. I’ve never seen Putin. Don’t know him. Putin’s my best friend. OMG HE’S ABOUT TO INVADE. Who’s Putin?”

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Franklin  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:23:12am

re: #616 darthstar

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:24:05am

re: #645 Barefoot Grin

With Kaine it might have to be some kind of over-the-top social justice VP. You’re right, though, it’s no fun when they already are real-life examples of the worst of humanity, like Pence and Trump.

Okay, here’s my pitch. Make the Kaine character like an over-zealous do gooder type. Like have stories about him showing up for meetings with Clinton and Congressional leaderships with cupcakes that he made from scratch. But yeah it’s hard to really make caricatures of Pence and Trump because they are. And you know, I bet Kaine would get a big laugh out of it, just like Biden loves his fictional character.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:24:30am

Rule of holes. Stop digging. The GOP nominee has lied every step of the way, and every statement uttered during the course of this campaign has been a lie, obfuscation, misstatement, or half-truth. Take his acceptance speech, and every one of the statistics uttered was wrong, incomplete, or otherwise comparing apples to bobby pins.

Take his claims that crime is out of control or that cops are being killed 79% more under Obama. Both are wrong. The former is wrong by any measure given we’re at multi-decade lows in crime. The latter may be somewhat accurate in a year-over-year comparison, but comparing number killed during Obama’s term in officer versus Reagan and it’s nearly 50% fewer, even counting this year’s death toll.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:24:38am

re: #637 Skip Intro

Former Staffer Says ‘Woefully Ignorant’ Sarah Palin Was Better Than Trump on Foreign Policy

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Well at least she could see Russia from her porch.
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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:25:14am

re: #649 lawhawk

Rule of holes. Stop digging. The GOP nominee has lied every step of the way, and every statement uttered during the course of this campaign has been a lie, obfuscation, misstatement, or half-truth. Take his acceptance speech, and every one of the statistics uttered was wrong, incomplete, or otherwise comparing apples to bobby pins.

Take his claims that crime is out of control or that cops are being killed 79% more under Obama. Both are wrong. The former is wrong by any measure given we’re at multi-decade lows in crime. The latter may be somewhat accurate in a year-over-year comparison, but comparing number killed during Obama’s term in officer versus Reagan and it’s nearly 50% fewer, even counting this year’s death toll.

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Something funny about these guys complaining about selection bias.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:26:09am

re: #616 darthstar

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Vladimir Putin == I Invalid Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:27:08am

re: #635 HappyWarrior

Yeah stop a guy who has actually had his right to vote oppressed, great look guys, can you please stop calling yourselves progressives because you’re not.

Proving that not all brain-dead people are Trump voters.

OTOH that’s who these numbnuts will probably vote for.

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piratedan  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:27:14am

re: #608 austin_blue

what I am saying AB is that for her to admit any more than she already has helps them to continue to set the narrative. In reality, she has admitted that yes, her choice wasn’t the optimal one, but it made sense based on precedence and the fact that the NSA stiffed her. Any more self flagellation in front of the press simply isn’t necessary because… guess what, they’re going to bring it anyway because that’s what they do with Dem candidates.

That’s the reality we all live in with our current media. If she concedes any ground, you’re going to see them seize on that and ignore every damn thing else she wants to say because the narrative will be… “See, even Hillary knows what she did was wrong… see! We were right about EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!” based on how things have played out in the past. Every small transgression from her is magnified and the entrails interpreted, Trump… not so much.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:29:06am

re: #649 lawhawk

How dare Politifact actually look at a stat and see if it’s true or not. They should be way more concerned about the narrative we’re trying to set up. Proving everything wrong one at a time isn’t helping with that.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:29:48am

re: #637 Skip Intro

Former Staffer Says ‘Woefully Ignorant’ Sarah Palin Was Better Than Trump on Foreign Policy

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Video

Nicole has been in pain covering the conventions for MSNBC.

And she gives Donald way too much credit. I bet he can’t read above a second or third grade level. You can tell by his vocabulary.

Later. Imma go make a turkey sub with lots of veggies and heavy on mild banana peppers on wheat with a drizzle of I-talian dressing. Join back tonight for round 4.

I have a feeling Hillary has prepared to hit a homer. She has had a lot of time watching Obama and Unca’ Joe…lots to learn from there.

Go Hills!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:30:47am

re: #655 Belafon

How dare Politifact actually look at a stat and see if it’s true or not. They should be way more concerned about the narrative we’re trying to set up. Proving everything wrong one at a time isn’t helping with that.

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Yeah you should take what we say seriously at face value except when we’re being sarcastic.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:31:08am

re: #568 Jay C

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Ummm, might it be that some of that “enthrallment” just may be because Tim Kaine is a Democrat, and that Jeb! and Marco aren’t??

Not that Republicans were too thrilled by those guys, either……

Not to mention that Marco and Jeb! only speak Spanish in the dead of night (or when cameras are not present) because their base hates them more when they speak any other language.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:31:28am

re: #648 HappyWarrior

Okay, here’s my pitch. Make the Kaine character like an over-zealous do gooder type. Like have stories about him showing up for meetings with Clinton and Congressional leaderships with cupcakes that he made from scratch. But yeah it’s hard to really make caricatures of Pence and Trump because they are. And you know, I bet Kaine would get a big laugh out of it, just like Biden loves his fictional character.

Beautiful. You need to work for the Onion!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:33:16am

HURR HURR WHO NEEDS THOSE WORTHLESS UNSKILLED PEOPLE!!!! THEY CAN JUST MAKE ROBOTS TO REPLACE THEM ALL!!!11!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:35:27am

Okay, I actually did email The Onion in their public feedback email address. I have no idea if they’ll respond but it was a very nice letter noting how much I’ve enjoyed their humor the past 15 years.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:35:40am

re: #653 Sir John Barron

Proving that not all brain-dead people are Trump voters.

OTOH that’s who these numbnuts will probably vote for.

Or Stein.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:36:05am

re: #610 The Vicious Babushka

IIRC Trump answered exactly 7 “questions” during the reddit AMA and they were all lame salad tossers like “What’s the best thing you ever ate at the Trump Grill”

And every response was To Stop Crooked Hillary. Even when the softball question had nothing to do with or in any relation to her.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:36:10am

re: #661 The Vicious Babushka

Note the passive voice on “Denied the wealth, benefits and upward mobility…”
Denied by who? How does this magic denial occur?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:37:27am

Here’s my letter to The Onion, yeah I wrote a satirical publication.
I have been a longtime reader of your publication for over 15 years now from the minute I first saw Our Dumb Century in a bookstore when I was 13 years old. Your stories have always made me laugh because as with all good satire, there often was a grain of truth to them or some absurdity. I’m writing you as a fan since as you know with a presidential election on us, we will be having a new President and Vice President in our country. I have particularly enjoyed The Onion’s portrayal of Vice President Biden these past seven years. From his adventures washing his Trans Am, inviting divorcees to his cabin, and his controversial ad for Hennessy. I also know that the VP himself enjoys your character and I couldn’t help but to think about Tim Kaine, Hillary Clinton’s pick for VP and how your publication could do something similiar with him. I like the idea of making Kaine a do-gooder Boy Scout type. For example, you could run a story about Kaine bringing homemade cupcakes to a luncheon between a President elect Clinton and Congressional leaders and being concerned about how well they came up. I’m familiar with Senator Kaine as a lifelong Virginian and while I do not know him personally, I think he would enjoy being spoofed in a good natured way the same way Vice President has. Thank you again for all the laughs over the years and the laughs to come.
Best regards,

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:38:01am
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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:38:09am

“Now the president’s lies weigh on Hillary Clinton’s campaign”
nymag.com

NUTS!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:38:51am

re: #664 MsJ

And every response was To Stop Crooked Hillary. Even when the softball question had nothing to do with or in any relation to her.

The emperor has no clothes. Is this real life?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:38:56am

re: #667 Kragar

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Uh yes, Howard that and then some. We are talking about the same candidate you adn I have been observing these past year plus. I think he’s clinically insane and then some.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:40:51am

re: #668 jaunte

“Now the president’s lies weigh on Hillary Clinton’s campaign”
nymag.com

NUTS!

Best twit response…

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:41:40am

re: #671 Le Lapin Tueur

That always happens to me, too.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:42:36am

Calm Anarchist, a band name like Led Zeppelin

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:43:35am

re: #673 jaunte

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Calm Anarchist, a band name like Led Zeppelin

It can be a bluegrass indie folk band.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:44:34am

re: #674 HappyWarrior

Acoustic speed metal… you know it to be true :)

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:44:41am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:45:25am
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:46:06am

re: #676 jaunte

He has no control over the monster he created.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:46:07am

I just I guess I don’t see why it’s so awful that the DNC favored Clinton over Sanders. You mean they showed favor to someone who is actually part of their party and someone who had benefited from their party’s fundraising and surrogates and then proceeded to crap on them even though he wasn’t part of their party. Yeah, I don’t blame the DNC for favoring Clinton at all in the end. I really don’t. You think the RNC wasn’t favoring some of their more established guys over nuts like Trump, and Carson?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:46:20am

re: #676 jaunte

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Very lame Bernie.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:46:38am

re: #667 Kragar

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[pet peeve] Howard, “insane” is a legal term. You can be legally insane or clinically psychotic (of course they largely overlap) but “clinically insane” is an oxymoron. [/pet peeve]

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:46:59am

Apparently none of the Trumps are all that bright

“That’s not the America I know.”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:47:07am

re: #678 Belafon

He has no control over the monster he created.

Then it’s time to kick their asses out to the free speech zone.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:48:03am

re: #678 Belafon

He has no control over the monster he created.

Giordano suggests pulling some credentials.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:48:07am

re: #677 The Vicious Babushka

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Deep thoughts by Ben Handey. Really, I really do sort of feel bad for him. He’s just so miserable and I have no idea why. I’d never know he had a family if you hadn’t told us about him shouting at Obama on Twitter the day of his daughter’s birth. I’m sorry guys but if I ever have children, the last thing on my mind is going to be politics.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:48:28am

re: #682 FormerDirtDart

Apparently none of the Trumps are all that bright

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Dumbass.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:48:34am

Probably better politics just to outshout the shouters.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:49:13am

re: #677 The Vicious Babushka

But in some fairness, I read Ben’s Tweet in Jackie Mason’s voice and I chuckled.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:49:18am

re: #682 FormerDirtDart

Apparently none of the Trumps are all that bright

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Omg so lame. So did they dissappear Melania? The plagiarism obviously bothered them immensely.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:49:24am

re: #684 jaunte

Giordano suggests pulling some credentials.

Speaking of which. Bernie apparently is switching back to Indy.

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:49:42am
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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:49:44am

re: #666 HappyWarrior

Nice letter. I think Kaine should be “everybody’s dad.” Some of the tweets last night were so cute—like he’s the dad who would buy an extra corsage in case your prom date forgot and he’s the dad who would teach you to drive on the family Buick, then buy you a TransAm for your birthday. Triumph of the Nerds!

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:49:58am

re: #690 HappyWarrior

Speaking of which. Bernie apparently is switching back to Indy.

When is the Indy convention?
/

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:50:17am

re: #637 Skip Intro

I cannot take anything Wallace says seriously. She didn’t vote for Palin but pushed her on the American electorate as qualified to be our VP. That strikes me as sneaky and unethical. She has nothing important to say about politics, in my opinion.

She should have quit the McCain campaign when she realized that it was trying to push an unqualified VP into office.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:50:48am

re: #677 The Vicious Babushka

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How can anyone stand to be around him given how miserable he is based on his tweets?

I can get pretty assholish online at times, but I am not that way all the time. How does he go through life thinking everything is awful and how can anyone put up with it?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:52:23am

re: #689 Stanley Sea

Omg so lame. So did they dissappear Melania? The plagiarism obviously bothered them immensely.

There are no facts and nothing really matters.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:52:29am

re: #692 BeachDem

Nice letter. I think Kaine should be “everybody’s dad.” Some of the tweets last night were so cute—like he’s the dad who would buy an extra corsage in case your prom date forgot and he’s the dad who would teach you to drive on the family Buick, then buy you a TransAm for your birthday. Triumph of the Nerds!

This is also a good idea. And thanks. I don’t think I’ve ever written a publication before heh. It was part suggestion/part thanks for all the laughs because they have had so many funny stories not just about politics about about life in general. I still die laughing about Al Queda being upset about 9/11 conspiracy theories and their news network having an Al Queda member as a serious voice. It’s brilliant comedy.

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sagehen  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:55:00am

re: #648 HappyWarrior

Okay, here’s my pitch. Make the Kaine character like an over-zealous do gooder type. Like have stories about him showing up for meetings with Clinton and Congressional leaderships with cupcakes that he made from scratch. But yeah it’s hard to really make caricatures of Pence and Trump because they are. And you know, I bet Kaine would get a big laugh out of it, just like Biden loves his fictional character.

Ned Flanders.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:55:04am

re: #666 HappyWarrior

Here’s my letter to The Onion, yeah I wrote a satirical publication.
I have been a longtime reader of your publication for over 15 years now from the minute I first saw Our Dumb Century in a bookstore when I was 13 years old. Your stories have always made me laugh because as with all good satire, there often was a grain of truth to them or some absurdity. I’m writing you as a fan since as you know with a presidential election on us, we will be having a new President and Vice President in our country. I have particularly enjoyed The Onion’s portrayal of Vice President Biden these past seven years. From his adventures washing his Trans Am, inviting divorcees to his cabin, and his controversial ad for Hennessy. I also know that the VP himself enjoys your character and I couldn’t help but to think about Tim Kaine, Hillary Clinton’s pick for VP and how your publication could do something similiar with him. I like the idea of making Kaine a do-gooder Boy Scout type. For example, you could run a story about Kaine bringing homemade cupcakes to a luncheon between a President elect Clinton and Congressional leaders and being concerned about how well they came up. I’m familiar with Senator Kaine as a lifelong Virginian and while I do not know him personally, I think he would enjoy being spoofed in a good natured way the same way Vice President has. Thank you again for all the laughs over the years and the laughs to come.
Best regards,

Love it!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:55:21am

re: #695 Timothy Watson

How can anyone stand to be around him given how miserable he is based on his tweets?

I can get pretty assholish online at times, but I am not that way all the time. How does he go through life thinking everything is awful and how can anyone put up with it?

I have to admit it, I had the image of Ben wearing all black with black eye liner as he said that. DD’s was Jackie Mason but I was thinking more about the emos that you and I would have gone to high school with which fits really since Ben’s around our age. I really do feel some pity for him in an odd way. Same thing with a lot of the wingnut personalities around our age. They don’t seem to be happy people. Their only joy if they have any comes from liberals suffering.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:56:23am

re: #698 sagehen

Ned Flanders.

That’s a good idea too. I take it you’re talking early Ned who was a perfect neighbor to a fault. Ironically, Pence could be later Flanders, super judgmental.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 10:57:47am

re: #637 Skip Intro

Former Staffer Says ‘Woefully Ignorant’ Sarah Palin Was Better Than Trump on Foreign Policy

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I have to say that if anyone is qualified to assess Teh Stupids it’s her.

And, seriously, after Palin, why does Wallace even have a job?

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:01:51am

re: #694 Patricia Kayden

I cannot take anything Wallace says seriously. She didn’t vote for Palin but pushed her on the American electorate as qualified to be our VP. That strikes me as sneaky and unethical. She has nothing important to say about politics, in my opinion.

She should have quit the McCain campaign when she realized that it was trying to push an unqualified VP into office.

I also feel she’s been a bad influence on Rachel. (half /)

For some reason, Rachel has been quite “taken” with Nicolle since right after the 2008 fiasco—when Wallace started making occasional appearances on her show. Now that Wallace is a regular, she’s like Rachel’s wing-woman—as they muse together over inconsequential crap.

If/when Rachel wakes up and sees what MSNBC has become, and what it has done to her credibility and reason, and decides to move on, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Nicolle get her spot. And at that point, I will watch even less of their drivel than I do now, what with Chuck Todd, Hugh Hewitt, Steve Schmidt and even Ann Fucking Coulter polluting the airwaves.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:02:42am

Animal Rights Activists kill the old lobster they “rescued” by sending him in the mail.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:02:51am

re: #678 Belafon

He has no control over the monster he created.

He never wanted to or really tried to control it. He put out a perfunctory email telling them not to disrupt from the floor and made some pro forma noises designed to cover his ass in case Trump wins but he really hasn’t done nearly enough to undo his wonton level of reckless behavior and damage during the primary. He was addicted to the cult like atmosphere and the adoration of his followers, but did nothing to truly educate them along the way about civic responsibility and how rational adults are expected to navigate this messy, complicated, nuanced reality we’re immersed in.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:03:25am

re: #656 ObserverArt

I have a feeling Hillary has prepared to hit a homer. She has had a lot of time watching Obama and Unca’ Joe…lots to learn from there.

Go Hills!

She has Bill to help bounce ideas, concepts and content off of. She is going to be fine. Just fine.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:10:11am
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Jenner7  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:10:12am

I will lose it if BernieBros disrupt her speech. I was already yelling at them while Obama was speaking.

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Franklin  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:10:23am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:12:55am

re: #705 goddamnedfrank

He never wanted to or really tried to control it. He put out a perfunctory email telling them not to disrupt from the floor and made some pro forma noises designed to cover his ass in case Trump wins but he really hasn’t done nearly enough to undo his wonton level of reckless behavior and damage during the primary. He was addicted to the cult like atmosphere and the adoration of his followers, but did nothing to truly educate them along the way about civic responsibility and how rational adults are expected to navigate this messy, complicated, nuanced reality we’re immersed in.

I’ve made the observation that I think success is exactly why he changed form being fairly congenial in the beginning to what he became at towards the end. Maybe the beginning was just an act but in any case, I refuse to subscribe to the narrative by his diehards and the concern trolls on the right that he was a victim of the DNC. He acted like a jerk several times throughout the campaign. Definitely was not the clean campaign he said he’d run. In the end, he’ll be a trivia question answer which is kind of a shame since I do feel some of the issues he did talk about did need mention though I still can’t help but to be turned off by how dishonest he could be i.e. equating Clinton running against Oama in 2008 to him suggesting a primary candidate for Obama in 2012.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:13:21am

re: #693 jaunte

Can’t get it organized. Everyone wants to be boss, and all suspect each other of selling out to ‘The Man’.

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:13:49am

Really? Really…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:15:10am

re: #709 Franklin

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He really should save what dignity he has left and resign. He showed how little integrity he has by saying he’d still vote for the guy who attacked his record as a POW but let’s be honest, he did the same thing too when he enthusiastically supported Bush against Kerry even after they ran ads against him too that were very nasty to his adoptive daughter in particular.

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sagehen  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:15:32am

re: #712 lawhawk

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Really? Really…

Chanel No. 5

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:15:49am

re: #711 Romantic Heretic

Can’t get it organized. Everyone wants to be boss, and all suspect each other of selling out to ‘The Man’.

“The Man”. That makes me think of one of my all-time favorite Onion articles. This one.

theonion.com

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:16:39am

re: #712 lawhawk

Really? Really…

“She might have had the best speech of the conventions, but Melania looked much better in her outfit.” - Every Republican on television.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:17:02am

re: #704 The Vicious Babushka

Oh, Lord. How do these people dress themselves without injury?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:17:36am

re: #715 Dr Lizardo

“The Man”. That makes me think of one of my all-time favorite Onion articles. This one.

theonion.com

My favorite is more of a video story but the Al Queda hijackers being upset about 9/11 conspiracy theories. Omar Al-Faruoq was such a funny character.

‘9/11 Conspiracy Theories Ridiculous’ - Al Qaeda

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:18:21am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:18:39am

re: #709 Franklin

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OK, it doesn’t really say NOPE, NOPE, NOPE….

Right?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:19:25am

re: #717 Romantic Heretic

Oh, Lord. How do these people dress themselves without injury?

No evidence that they do. Just hide the injuries well.

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:19:37am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:20:15am

Doc Lizardo though, I know as a resident of the Czech Republic, you no doubt enjoyed their story about the fictitious Franz Kafka International Airport.

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No Depression  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:20:19am

re: #719 The Vicious Babushka

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That’s not gonna play well with a segment of the Bernie Babies.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:20:28am

re: #722 Kragar

Newt Gingrich heads back to Fox News as contributor thr.cm pic.twitter.com
— Hollywood Reporter

Well that was the about the worst six days of his life…

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Franklin  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:22:31am

re: #720 Sir John Barron

OK, it doesn’t really say NOPE, NOPE, NOPE….

Right?

Haha! No that was me editorializing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:22:51am

Wingnuts are happily spamming a meme that actually PERFECTLY APPLIES TO THEM but in typical IMAX projection they want you to think it’s about “Libtards”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:23:45am

re: #726 Franklin

Haha! No that was me editorializing.

Don’t understand why McCain just doesn’t retire. He’s been at it a long time.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:23:54am

re: #715 Dr Lizardo

“The Man”. That makes me think of one of my all-time favorite Onion articles. This one.

theonion.com

Don’t know why, but my favorite has always been Bill Clinton writing a fan letter to Joan Jett:

“Dear Joan Jett, I think your awesome. You are a awesome rock star. You are my favorite rock star,” the fan letter read in part. “I have all your albums.”

theonion.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:23:57am

re: #723 HappyWarrior

Doc Lizardo though, I know as a resident of the Czech Republic, you no doubt enjoyed their story about the fictitious Franz Kafka International Airport.

Yes, and when I show that one to Czechs, they love it. For those who may not have seen it, here it is:

Prague’s Kafka International Named Most Alienating Airport

ETA: The Czech on the “signage” in the background is actually correct; a lot of my students were genuinely impressed that The Onion went to all that trouble.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:23:58am

MSNBC’s Tamron Hall lays waste to DNC protesters for shouting down John Lewis

Protesters at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia shouted down civil rights icon John Lewis while he was being interviewed by MSNBC’s Tamron Hall on Thursday.

Asshole BernieBots continue to be assholes.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:24:36am

re: #730 Barefoot Grin

Don’t know why, but my favorite has always been Bill Clinton writing a fan letter to Joan Jett:

“Dear Joan Jett, I think your awesome. You are a awesome rock star. You are my favorite rock star,” the fan letter read in part. “I have all your albums.”

theonion.com

Oh, I thought that was real.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:24:53am

re: #727 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are happily spamming a meme that actually PERFECTLY APPLIES TO THEM but in typical IMAX projection they want you to think it’s about “Libtards”

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Crashing the economy? Funny, economic growth has been a constant in Obama’s administration. That’s more than you could say about when it was in Bush’s and McCain’s top economic adviser Phil Gramm told people to stop whining. What a stupid fucking meme and man there are a lot of them.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:25:49am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:26:14am

re: #731 Dr Lizardo

Yes, and when I show that one to Czechs, they love it. For those who may not have seen it, here it is:

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It acme out before I became an English minor but I had read the Metamorphosis in high school and Kafka just weirded me out. Ended up reading The Trial a couple years after that. It was one I think a lot of people didn’t get but I thought it was hilarious.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:26:48am

re: #732 Dr. Matt

MSNBC’s Tamron Hall lays waste to DNC protesters for shouting down John Lewis

Asshole BernieBots continue to be assholes.

Not the first time Lewis has been shouted down by assholes with a sense of entitlement.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:27:01am

re: #715 Dr Lizardo

“The Man”. That makes me think of one of my all-time favorite Onion articles. This one.

theonion.com

Say what you will, but Clinton did at least give the nation a week off to get its shit together. More presidents should do that for America.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:28:05am

re: #728 HappyWarrior

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LOL, my adventure at Prague Airport (which is actually Václav Havel Airport) last year was somewhat Kafkaesque.

They kept our lost bag in the storage closet for 2 days even while insisting that it was “on the delivery truck” to our rental unit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:28:41am

re: #738 Sir John Barron

Say what you will, but Clinton did at least give the nation a week off to get its shit together. More presidents should do that for America.

He also had the famed Historical Wad Accord of 1999 between the Gaywads and Dorkwads.
theonion.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:28:57am

re: #739 The Vicious Babushka

LOL, my adventure at Prague Airport (which is actually Václav Havel Airport) last year was somewhat Kafkaesque.

They kept our lost bag in the storage closet for 2 days even while insisting that it was “on the delivery truck” to our rental unit.

“Properly follow proper protocols.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:29:32am

re: #739 The Vicious Babushka

LOL, my adventure at Prague Airport (which is actually Václav Havel Airport) last year was somewhat Kafkaesque.

They kept our lost bag in the storage closet for 2 days even while insisting that it was “on the delivery truck” to our rental unit.

Ha, I’ve been to Prague but I didn’t fly there. I get the impression from your story that someone on the Onion’s writing staff flew there too and had a similar experience.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:30:21am

re: #741 Dr Lizardo

“Properly follow proper protocols.”

Send an envelope to the hopsital in which you were born! I loved that guy’s awesome vintage mustache too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:31:18am

re: #743 HappyWarrior

Send an envelope to the hopsital in which you were born! I loved that guy’s awesome vintage mustache too.

and the Hapsburg-era civil servant uniform

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:32:16am

re: #741 Dr Lizardo

“Properly follow proper protocols.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:32:21am

re: #744 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the Hapsburg-era civil servant uniform

Yep. I’m watching it now. Dying here.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:32:33am

re: #732 Dr. Matt

MSNBC’s Tamron Hall lays waste to DNC protesters for shouting down John Lewis

Asshole BernieBots continue to be assholes.

People who are one the side against John Lewis, will never be on the right side of history.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:32:35am

re: #744 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the Hapsburg-era civil servant uniform

Oh, definitely a Hapsburg-era inspired look.

Someone at The Onion must’ve had a run-in with the Czech bureaucracy somewhere along the line.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:32:44am

re: #737 HappyWarrior

Not the first time Lewis has been shouted down by assholes with a sense of entitlement.

Perfect example of black folks issue with ‘white’ liberalism. I have a big problem with it myself.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:33:24am

ARe you who you say you are? Finally he writes liar on the back on my hand and lets me pass. Hahaha.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:34:48am

re: #745 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:35:02am

re: #749 SoundGuy 2016

Perfect example of black folks issue with ‘white’ liberalism. I have a big problem with it myself.

I have a big problem with it too. It’s obnoxious and really disrespectful.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:35:46am

re: #751 Dr Lizardo

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:36:24am

re: #748 Dr Lizardo

Oh, definitely a Hapsburg-era inspired look.

Someone at The Onion must’ve had a run-in with the Czech bureaucracy somewhere along the line.

Yeah that was my guess too. The ending about the nearby Dostoevsky hotel with the guests killing each other was pretty damn funny too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:38:04am

re: #753 The Vicious Babushka

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2016 • 11:44:56am

re: #667 Kragar

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:01:26pm

Both of my friend’s Bernie yard signs have been stolen over the last few weeks. She is impatiently waiting for the HRC replacements (which must be ordered from out of state AFWK.)

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 28, 2016 • 12:17:41pm

Carnival of ignorance at freep:

This starts with an inflammatory and inaccurate headline from the Daily Fail:
US ‘spy plane’ makes emergency landing in Russia after ‘problem with its landing gear’

The surveillance Boeing OC-135B aircraft was flying a mission over Siberia
Problem with landing gear prompted emergency landing in eastern Russia
Treaty on Open Skies allows signatories to overfly the skies of each other
But Russia has now questioned whether the technical glitch was genuine

This is one of the two OC-135Bs that operate over Russia under the “Open Skies” treaty. The flight originated in Russia, has Russian observers on board, and was scheduled to land in Yakutsk, also in Russia. Freepers of course, ignore all that, fall for all the Fail’s invited inferences, and spin up a variety of conspiracy theories.

The most common seems to be that this was staged so Obama could turn over secret data and state of the art gear to the Russians.

What did Obama give Putin now ?

Just the Negro from Nairobi paying off Vladimir Vladimirovich for not releasing the contents of Rotten Cankles’ server.

If you have a problem with your landing gear why would you need to make an immediate emergency landing?

( It wasn’t “immediate,” the aircraft flew over 1600 kilometers before landing at an airport that has considerably longer runways than the scheduled one. Yakutsk: 8202 ft (concrete) and 11155 ft (asphalt); Khabarovsk airport (where it did land) has two runways: 13,124 (concrete) and 11,483 (asphalt). It probably did not return to the point of origin, Ulan-Ude, because the pilot wanted to burn off two hours worth of fuel before attempting to land with a suspect landing gear.)

I guess planes can’t fly with landing gear issues. What a load of bull.

I’m sure the Russians will promptly return our government property to us after a cursory glance at the plane. Riiiiiiiiight..

(Every Open Skies flight lands in Russia, usually more than once. They have yet to keep one.)

Obama’s gift to the Russians.

Assume one of those two things happened. Was there another course of action that could have been taken rather than land where Putin gets access to all the info

Under the treaty, the Russians are entitled to copies of all the data gathered. This would have been downloaded at the scheduled stop in Yakutsk, which is just before the plane would have exited Russian airspace and gone on to (probably) Japan.

There are a few voices crying in the wilderness:

It is an Open Skies Treaty plane. Russian can already request copies of all the data it gathers. This isn’t a Rivet Joint.

Are we the only two people on this thread who know what “Open Skies” means?

These naturally draw a rejoinder that plumbs the depth of idiocy, and also serves as an example of the time dishonored inbred habit of throwing up transparent strawmen.

So what you are saying is that because of the malfunction of landing gear and the need to emergency land more than 1000 miles away…Russia can look at all data as per the Treaty???? This whole things sounds fishy.

Er, no, idiot, the poster did not say that. The Open Skies treaty entitles the host country to that data.
Note that the Fail gives the origin as in the “Ulan-Ude in the Republic of Buryatia” but does not mention that this and the destination, Yakutsk, are both in Russia. This omission helps enable the conspira-fool assumption that was some kind of secret spy flight that has disastrously and suspiciously fallen into Russian hands.


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