Saturday Night Jam: Bill Laurance, “One Time”

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Yes, it’s another gorgeous track from Bill Laurance, featuring some stellar bass work from Snarky Puppy founder Michael League.

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Written by Bill Laurance
Produced by Bill Laurance and Michael League

Bill Laurance - keyboards and vibraphone
Michael League - guitars, electric bass and fretless bass solo
Robert ‘Sput’ Searight - drums and percussion

Maria Im - violin
Henry Flory - violin
Curtis Stewart - violin
Christiana Liberis - violin
Irena Momchilova - viola
Kallie Ciechomski - viola
Maria Jeffers - cello
Sam Quiggins - cello

Arranged by Bill Laurance
Orchestrated and conducted by Michael League

Recorded by Rudyard Lee Cullers, August 2014 at Dreamland Studios in West Hurley, NY
Mixed by Nic Hard at Limebeat Studios in New York, NY
Mastered by Josh Kessler
Directed by Andy LaViolette
Filmed by Andy LaViolette and Brad Holt

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492 comments
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freetoken  Jul 30, 2016 • 9:34:47pm

This could be your lucky day:

Winning numbers drawn for $487 million Powerball jackpot

The winning numbers for the Powerball are 11-17-21-23-32 and Powerball 5.

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freetoken  Jul 30, 2016 • 9:38:59pm

More despicable Drumpfskind:

Trump’s burn of the Colorado Springs fire dept. came right after they rescued him

[…] But on Friday in Colorado, Trump had a much less heated encounter with the Colorado Springs Fire Department after he and nine others were trapped in an elevator at The Mining Exchange Hotel.

“The firefighters were able to secure the elevator, open the top elevator hatch, lower a ladder into the elevator, which allowed all individuals to self-evacuate, including Mr. Trump, onto the second-floor lobby area,” fire department spokesman Steven Wilch told Colorado station KRDO in a Saturday report. Trump was over an hour late to his event at the University of Colorado campus located in solidly conservative Colorado Springs — but he made it.

[…]

And then Drumpfskind went on to criticize the fire marshall at his rally, in case you missed that part in the video.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2016 • 9:48:13pm

1.) The woman who blames Hillary for her son’s death is delusional, as multiple investigations have established Clinton wasn’t to blame.

2.) Unlike Trump, Hillary is smart enough not to attack a grieving mother.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2016 • 9:49:44pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

Also, these assholes don’t speak for Ambassador Stevens Mom, who has asked them to stop using her son’s death to attack Hillary.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2016 • 9:51:42pm

OH SNAP! Just discovered that the little Twitter bird shows up in the upper right of GIFs as well as JPEGs and others.

Charles, one megabyte for GIFs, maybe?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 30, 2016 • 9:52:12pm

re: #1 freetoken

This could be your lucky day:

Winning numbers drawn for $487 million Powerball jackpot

But they want you to buy a ticket before you know if you’ve won or not. UNFAIR!!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:08:15pm

I watched no-parachute skydive video in the previous thread. I can’t help but feel it’s Thunderdome BS and nothing to cheer for. I don’t see any advancement or achievement in what he did (unless it helps advance Idiot Net technology?). It was a completely bonkers stunt. Talk about privilege, risking yourself that way to get your adrenaline rocks off. No thanks.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:12:49pm

New YouGov research of over 20,000 adults in every G20 country for Handelsblatt Global Edition reveals Russia is the only country of the G20 major economies where people would rather Donald Trump was the next President of the US than Hillary Clinton. And by a long way - Trump leads Clinton by 21 points in Russia, while Hillary has a lead of more than 21 points over Trump in 15 other countries.
today.yougov.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:14:26pm

This crap just came across my FB. I assume the stats are bogus.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:17:04pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

“… In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded for Romney. (A mathematical and statistical impossibility).

It is true that 59 voting divisions in Philadelphia recorded no votes for Mitt Romney, but given the voter composition of the Philadelphia area (and some Philadelphia wards in particular) and the number of voters in each division, that outcome was hardly a “mathematical and statistical impossibility.”

Barack Obama won the overall vote in the Philadelphia area by an 85% to 14% margin over Mitt Romney; Obama also received greater than 90% of the vote in more than half of Philadelphia’s 66 wards, and 99% or more of the vote in seven of those wards. That result was hardly surprising given that, as the Philadelphia Inquirer noted, those wards are “clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia” and “nationally, 93 percent of African Americans voted for Obama.” The Philadelphia wards that trended very heavily for Barack Obama included many divisions of between 200 and 500 voters in which Mitt Romney received a scant handful of votes (and sometimes no votes at all), a result mirroring that of the previous election, in which Republican candidate John McCain “got zero votes in 57 Philadelphia voting divisions.”

When the Inquirer went looking for Republican voters in some of those divisions, they couldn’t find any:
snopes.com

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:18:24pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

“… In St. Lucie County, FL, there were 175,574 registered eligible voters but 247,713 votes were cast.

This statement demonstrates a misunderstanding between the difference in “number of votes” cast and “number of cards” cast. The official election results from St. Lucie County, Florida, show, a total of 123,301 votes were cast for the office of President of the United States, but a total of 247,383 cards were cast because St. Lucie County used a two-page ballot (i.e., a ballot consisting of two cards), so every voter who returned both pages of his ballot cast two cards.

As the web site of that county’s elections board explains: “Turnout percentages will show over 100% due to a two page ballot. The tabulation system (GEMS) provides voter turnout as equal to the total cards cast in the election divided by the number of registered voters. Also note that some voters chose not to return by mail the second card.”
snopes.com

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KingKenrod  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:21:37pm
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jaunte  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:21:52pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:26:08pm

re: #13 jaunte

Trolling level: EPIC

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:27:17pm

The Donald doesn’t need to be in political campaign, he needs to be on a sitcom.

#shitmytrumpsays

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:34:03pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

This crap just came across my FB. I assume the stats are bogus.

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Short version:

“N-gr President was elected by shifty N-grs without ID!”

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gocart mozart  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:37:56pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:42:37pm

re: #17 gocart mozart

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I’m really concerned about the Khans’ safety now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:43:37pm

re: #18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m really concerned about the Khans’ safety now.

I agree. What a fucked up country we live in.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:46:34pm

Via David Futrelle—Tiny Face Trump

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2016 • 10:48:37pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

This crap just came across my FB. I assume the stats are bogus.

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So, Obama lost the conservative states and won the liberal ones. I bet he also won the states that were won by the Democrat and lost the ones won by the Republican.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:10:16pm

Everything I’ve seen that’s transpired from Friday morning until now - in re: The Donald™ - I’ve been astounded, dumbfounded, perplexed, confused.

Iframe

I might go insane before the next ski season.

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majii  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:15:51pm

re: #2 freetoken

“More despicable Drumpfskind:’

Once an *ss, always an *ss. When firefighters helped get his butt out of the elevator, he was grateful, but when the fire marshal wouldn’t permit him to pack his rally beyond occupancy regulations, he wasted no time berating him. As I mentioned previously, there’s something very wrong with Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:15:54pm
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majii  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:21:04pm

re: #10 jaunte

I guess whoever put this on FB did so because it showed something they believed. It’s embarrassing for me to witness so many alleged educated adults falling for certain things and being too lazy to research them.

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TK-421  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:21:48pm

I remember that horrible Great White concert where combustible decorations started ablaze killing 100 people. There’s a good reason fire codes exist.

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majii  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:23:11pm

re: #17 gocart mozart

I’m going to make a temporary exception and forget about what my parent told me about being a lady.

DAMN! That burns!!!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:32:38pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:38:55pm

i haven’t been able to find out through google who it was that said god is an insane, blind child

maybe i’ll make up a word for a religion that believes that

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:42:12pm

Here’s one thing that is cool about where I’m at. At 20:00 the temperature was 90° F. It is now 00:40 and the temperature is 65° F and it’ll be in the high fifties in a few hours.

Hot. Cold.

I like it best in winter, when snow is gathering everywhere.

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majii  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:45:30pm

re: #18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’d better leave the Khans alone because if any one of them lays one finger on them, I don’t think it will bring a positive response to Trump’s campaign and could influence the outcome of the presidential election, and not in his favor. All some of the b*st*rds seem to be able to do is threaten those who disagree with them. For them, the way to solve any conflict or difference of opinion is with violence. If they say they love living in a democratic form of government, they’re lying through their teeth.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 30, 2016 • 11:52:18pm

re: #28 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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as more and more people lay into trump, he’ll have to spend more and more time insulting them. he’s become predictable: you can ‘bait him with a tweet’, and if your criticism gets enough coverage, he’ll waste time and make an ass of himself devising childish responses

very soon now he wont have time for anything else

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:01:06am

Re: Melania pictures, she’s a fair target, but the substance of the attack is wrong. Erotic pictures aren’t a bad or a shameful thing or incompatible with being the first lady.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:08:57am

Hillary got a PPP bounce, a more realistic-looking +5. Nice.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:33:09am

re: #33 Nyet

Re: Melania pictures, she’s a fair target, but the substance of the attack is wrong. Erotic pictures aren’t a bad or a shameful thing or incompatible with being the first lady.

i just feel sorry for melania, caught up in her husband’s embarassing circus of a campaign

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:37:22am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:39:18am

re: #34 Nyet

Hillary got a PPP bounce, a more realistic-looking +5. Nice.

That was also before Trump’s bigoted meltdown of the last two days. I have to believe that attacking the Khan parents is going to extend that a bit.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:54:13am

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

That was also before Trump’s bigoted meltdown of the last two days. I have to believe that attacking the Khan parents is going to extend that a bit.

Here’s the article. They specifically say:

The Vladimir Putin/Russia issue has the potential to cause Donald Trump a lot of problems in the weeks ahead. Only 7% of Americans view Putin favorably to 69% with a negative opinion and only 14% see Russia as a whole favorably to 52% with a negative view. By a 47 point margin- 5% more likely, 52% less likely- voters say they’re less likely to vote for a candidate if it’s perceived Russia is interfering in the election to try to help them. And by a 26 point margin- 9% more likely, 35% less likely- they’re less likely to vote for a candidate seen as being friendly toward Russia. If Democrats can effectively leverage this issue in the weeks ahead it has the potential to help turn this into a more lopsided race.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:59:58am

re: #38 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There’s a little trolling going on here, too. Here are a couple of questions from the PDF:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:04:48am

re: #39 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There’s a little trolling going on here, too. Here are a couple of questions from the PDF:

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I mean, take a moment to drink that in. A dead gorilla is polling higher(5%) than Jill Stein (3%).

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:08:44am

So Michael Ian Black started #DumbDonald, which is super dumb, which is also the point, but I digress.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:13:19am

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I mean, take a moment to drink that in. A dead gorilla is polling higher(5%) than Jill Stein (3%).

Admittedly, Harambe was a more sympathetic character.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:36:29am

re: #34 Nyet

Hillary got a PPP bounce, a more realistic-looking +5. Nice.

Not enough. I want a 25+ bounce, please.

And not to make a big deal out of this, but I, as an American, find it distasteful that our possible (God forbid) First Lady has naked pics floating around. I just do. I’d say this if that FLOTUS was a dem or a GOPer.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:36:41am

A good story about Hillary helping an average Joe.

dailykos.com

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:46:42am

re: #44 Nyet

Facebook comment there:

Adam Davenport A friend told me this story has shifted his perception of Clinton and may have an impact on his decision to vote. He previously was not going to vote for any candidate.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:52:32am
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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:55:03am
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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:57:32am

I see Cathy Young is anti-Trump. Not sure how it goes together with being a yuuge Milo-booster.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:58:38am

Those foreigners and their accents.

Not like Pres. Trump and his all-American First Lady.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 1:59:49am

Charlie Pierce a few days ago…

PHILADELPHIA—Having been out of the news for about 11 seconds over the last 24 hours, He, Trump had another “episode,” carefully disguised as a press conference, in which he spent the first several minutes talking how bold he was to have a press conference. Wheezing as though he were breathing underwater, he served up the usual farrago of bullshit and poll numbers, inexactitude and counting up which of his convention pronouncements got the most applause. He supported torture again. He said he “hoped” Russia had the 33,000 e-mails that were deleted from Hillary Rodham Clinton’s account….

…notices the same thing I have a few times. I don’t think this guy is going to make it till November, especially if criticism keeps building, which it will.

He’s either going to stroke out or go the way Breitbart did. He can’t handle the rage—he’s just not up to it.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:00:07am

A dream: Donald should reenact the Duck Tales intro.

Fill a swimming pool with gold. And jump.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:03:57am

re: #51 Nyet

A dream: Donald should reenact the Duck Tales intro.

Fill a swimming pool with gold. And jump.

He has to win the election first—I think he thinks he gets the key to Fort Knox.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:04:20am

re: #52 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He has to win the election first—I think he thinks he gets the key to Fort Knox.

Oh yeah, I forgot he’s broke.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:07:23am

Report this shit.

He doesn’t have “parody” shield anywhere, fair game.

twitter.com

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:20:54am
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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:21:43am

The Apocalypse is upon us.

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Varek Raith  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:25:39am

Just another day in America;

Emergency services: 1 dead, 4 injured in Austin shootings

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:31:30am

OK, that’s a cute dad joke.

Image: dad8_3373456k.jpg

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:46:30am

Deleted. Apparently Trump is no longer involved.

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Lani  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:51:42am

re: #59 goddamnedfrank

That’s just plain creepy. I’m hoping it’s satirical. Please tell me it’s not true!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:52:23am

re: #56 Nyet

The Apocalypse is upon us.

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“anotherr failed pres”? Yeah, screw you, Jennifer. If there is any history written decades from now, Obama will be rated in the top five for sure.

What she means is, the GOP can’t survive another eight years of solid obstruction—people are finally catching on.

If they could have kept it in their pants and let the economy recover, even if—heaven forbid—Obama got the credit, we’d be about ready for another recession they could blame him for.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:53:41am

re: #61 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What’s new is that she acknowledges that “failure” is because of the wingnut obstruction.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:58:41am

re: #60 Lani

That’s just plain creepy. I’m hoping it’s satirical. Please tell me it’s not true!

It’s a legit Tweet but I wasn’t aware that Trump had sold The Miss Universe Organization.

Here’s the original tweet again since I deleted my response:

Still creepy, still homogenous as hell.

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Lani  Jul 31, 2016 • 3:02:52am

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

While you were deleting, I was checking out twitter. Apparently, the winner was fond of the n word on her twitter account.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2016 • 3:17:01am

Scottie Hughs who is a Trump Spox is trying to defend the Yam in attacking Mrs. Khan on CNN.
How low can they go???

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TK-421  Jul 31, 2016 • 3:25:27am

Geez. If I go by what I hear and read, conservatives are all the victims of Trump. No mea culpa. It’s all Hillary and Obama’s fault. Pathetic. Who is their “principled” conservative?

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2016 • 3:33:06am
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William Lewis  Jul 31, 2016 • 3:36:04am

re: #67 Dave In Austin

Hey, snakes are barely getting over that eden thing. They don’t need that libel as well…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2016 • 3:42:50am

re: #68 William Lewis

Hey, snakes are barely getting over that eden thing. They don’t need that libel as well…

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Actually, I agree. I am a reptile freak at heart. Just making a point. “the Yam” and his toadies are just reprehensible…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2016 • 3:53:03am
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 31, 2016 • 4:04:24am

re: #10 jaunte

This boils down to Republicans attacking Blacks all the dang time and then acting shocked that Black people don’t vote for them. You don’t like us, we don’t vote for you. It’s just that simple.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 31, 2016 • 4:17:14am

re: #56 Nyet

So Rubin is calling President Obama a failed President? Cannot stand her.

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William Lewis  Jul 31, 2016 • 4:30:19am

re: #72 Patricia Kayden

So Rubin is calling President Obama a failed President? Cannot stand her.

The interesting bit is the admission that the “failure” is due to GOP obstructionism. Now, I think he accomplished quite a bit, thank you very much, but had the same level of compromise as existed in the past been in play? We’d all be better off.

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Varek Raith  Jul 31, 2016 • 4:34:29am

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

It’s a legit Tweet but I wasn’t aware that Trump had sold The Miss Universe Organization.

Here’s the original tweet again since I deleted my response:

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Still creepy, still homogenous as hell.

CLONES ARE PEOPLE TOO!

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William Lewis  Jul 31, 2016 • 4:37:27am

re: #74 Varek Raith

CLONES ARE PEOPLE TOO!

Heh. Reminds me of the Vorkosigan series of SF books. A plot point in one novel creates a continuing character out of the clone of the series protagonist because to his mother’s planets laws, a clone is a separate legal person.

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fern01  Jul 31, 2016 • 4:43:19am

re: #43 MsJ

Not enough. I want a 25+ bounce, please.

And not to make a big deal out of this, but I, as an American, find it distasteful that our possible (God forbid) First Lady has naked pics floating around. I just do. I’d say this if that FLOTUS was a dem or a GOPer.

And the outpouring from the GOP if it was a dem would never stop. Their screams against every action of the Obama family that is outside their RW sensibilities says it all.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 4:46:55am

re: #76 fern01

And the outpouring from the GOP if it was a dem would never stop. Their screams against every action of the Obama family that is outside their RW sensibilities says it all.

Michelle Obama wearing short sleeves was the end of civilization as we know it, remember….

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fern01  Jul 31, 2016 • 4:57:44am

re: #77 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Michelle Obama wearing short sleeves was the end of civilization as we know it, remember….

The right to bare arms was attacked - but the right to a bare body is quite acceptable?

Wife #3 no doubt has a beautiful body which is why Trump married her. Comparing her to any 1st lady over the past 100 years has her coming up last. I think it is unfair that politicians wives are expected to be a major part of their campaigns - but it has been this way since forever. Most politicians understand this fact and for many it has been a bridge too far to stay in politics.

Donald had no thoughts about the family impact when he started his campaign - as always he only thought about self.

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2016 • 4:58:25am

Greets and saluts from the very soggy NYC metro area. Managed to go out yesterday and made my way to Central NJ, including Princeton and then on down to Lambertville and New Hope PA.

We managed to mostly stay ahead of the weather, as we avoided the flooding in Princeton that occurred about an hour after we left. Of course, it also meant we didn’t get to take the photos I was hoping for, since we basically were staying one step ahead of the weather. Oh well. Did walk a few miles, and the rain was sorely needed and refreshing.

And it was a badly needed break from the nonstop Trumpocalypse.

I noticed a report last night indicating that Mr. Khan’s speech at the DNC has spurred a massive spike in sales of pocket Constitutions on Amazon. Good.

But it’s not enough to merely buy them.

Read them. Ask questions about provisions. Ask why one party seems to concern itself with the 2A to the exclusion of all others. Ask why one party thinks that the 1A establishment clause is optional. Ask why one party continually seeks to undermine the Equal Protection and Due Process clauses.

Ask why the GOP is standing for all those things. Those are the rights we hold dear, and yet the GOP is actively subverting the Constitution at every turn, and their GOP nominee is a functional illiterate when it comes to the law of the land.

Trump mirrors the rest of the party though, given how the NC GOP specifically wrote its voter rules to violate the rights of minorities (and explicitly stated as much when crafting the law). Other state GOPs around the nation have pushed similar versions of the NC law.

That’s what we’re up against. That’s what this election is about.

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:03:40am

re: #78 fern01

The role and nature of the First Lady has changed tremendously in the 20th Century. That started in large part to Eleanor Roosevelt, whose stay in the WH greatly expanded what it meant to be First Lady. She worked behind the scenes in political circles, including on race relations.

Same with Jackie Kennedy, Nancy Reagan, and Barbara Bush. Each expanded in different directions. But then came Hillary, and you saw her get much more involved in the actual politics. Laura Bush and Michelle Obama each took different directions in policy and the role of the First Lady, but with the likelihood of a Hillary Clinton Presidency, we’re going to see the role of First Dude vastly expand the nature of the role once more. It’ll be a unique and groundbreaking situation as soft powers of persuasion and consensus building can help Hillary’s presidency in many different ways.

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TK-421  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:14:07am

WiGOP still running fake democrats.

Russ Feingold faces primary in newcomer Scott Harbach

“I believe in miracles,” Harbach said of his chances of winning the primary. He gave his campaign $300, he said, a symbolic amount that mirrored the Biblical figure Gideon going into battle with 300 men.

Harbach said he has never run for elective office. In the past, he has supported Republicans. In 2004, Harbach contributed $170 to Reince Priebus when the future Republican National Committee chairman ran for state Senate, according to the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign database.

Harbach said he briefly volunteered for Mark Neumann’s losing U.S. Senate race in 1998 against Feingold.

So why run now?

“I think it was divine intervention,” Harbach said.

Harbach said he is an independent Democrat but claims on his website: “​Somehow God has been pushed out of the Democratic Party and it has become an atheist party.”

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TK-421  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:15:41am

John Chisholm faces off with Democratic challenger Verona Swanigan

The Democratic primary for district attorney in Milwaukee County on Aug. 9 ostensibly pits incumbent John Chisholm against challenger Verona Swanigan.

Some would argue it’s really between Chisholm and Eric O’Keefe, the conservative political activist who has led the attacks against Chisholm for the once-secret, now-derailed John Doe investigation into whether conservative groups and Gov. Scott Walker’s campaign violated campaign finance laws in 2012.

“This is what we see in politics nowadays,” Chisholm said. “Disguised, undisclosed interests who find a candidate compliant to that agenda. It’s a fundamental issue of trust.”

Swanigan, a private attorney, has little experience for the job, comes with some peculiar baggage and has raised only about $10,000 for the race.

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fern01  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:20:07am

re: #80 lawhawk

It would be really amazing to see a gay couple in the white house - doubt I’ll live that long - but my grandchild will for sure. Another expansion of rolls.

I think the First Guy will be more in the background that his wife was in the 90s.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:21:56am

re: #80 lawhawk

The role and nature of the First Lady has changed tremendously in the 20th Century. That started in large part to Eleanor Roosevelt, whose stay in the WH greatly expanded what it meant to be First Lady. She worked behind the scenes in political circles, including on race relations.

Same with Jackie Kennedy, Nancy Reagan, and Barbara Bush. Each expanded in different directions. But then came Hillary, and you saw her get much more involved in the actual politics. Laura Bush and Michelle Obama each took different directions in policy and the role of the First Lady, but with the likelihood of a Hillary Clinton Presidency, we’re going to see the role of First Dude vastly expand the nature of the role once more. It’ll be a unique and groundbreaking situation as soft powers of persuasion and consensus building can help Hillary’s presidency in many different ways.

I think the prospect of Bill as First Dude :-) is going to garner some votes for Hillary. Despite what the RWNJs say, he’s a very popular figure. They throw out the phrase “Third Obama term” as if that would be a horrible prospect to most people. I don’t think I’m alone in saying: “A third Obama term? And a third Clinton term? Simultaneously? Bring. It. On!”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:33:44am

re: #80 lawhawk

The role and nature of the First Lady has changed tremendously in the 20th Century. That started in large part to Eleanor Roosevelt, whose stay in the WH greatly expanded what it meant to be First Lady. She worked behind the scenes in political circles, including on race relations.

Same with Jackie Kennedy, Nancy Reagan, and Barbara Bush. Each expanded in different directions. But then came Hillary, and you saw her get much more involved in the actual politics. Laura Bush and Michelle Obama each took different directions in policy and the role of the First Lady, but with the likelihood of a Hillary Clinton Presidency, we’re going to see the role of First Dude vastly expand the nature of the role once more. It’ll be a unique and groundbreaking situation as soft powers of persuasion and consensus building can help Hillary’s presidency in many different ways.

Are they selling the Post under a protective shield in NY? They certainly would in AL.

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Jayleia  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:38:04am

Offered without comment…

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Alephnaught  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:43:35am

Hm, seems like one of the Koch brothers didn’t think Trump was for to be President 5 years ago…

thinkprogress.org

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:51:09am
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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:51:49am

Cnn.com

i guess the stuff i do isnt that dangerous after all

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:53:30am

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

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So that means it’ll be available after 9 am? Could make for some interesting reading, though that such an interview with Trump was a ‘train wreck’ shouldn’t exactly come as shocking news to anyone.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:53:52am

Anyway, BBL. Gonna get a pizza.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 5:59:58am

trump’s overt racist remarks not a gimmie

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:01:23am

re: #89 dangerman

Cnn.com

i guess the stuff i do isnt that dangerous after all

Yikes! That’s another one for my aviation “nope” list, along with zero-length launch, wing walking, and flying on Delta.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:07:53am

And away we go!

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b.d.  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:07:53am

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

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Yep, Trump is catching a lot of hell for an interview that hasn’t even aired yet. This is the beginning of this storm and I trust in Trump to keep it burning and poor some gas on it.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:08:11am

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! That’s another one for my aviation “nope” list, along with zero-length launch, wing walking, and flying on Delta.

it is an amazing feat and another example of technology moving on

WWII wasnt that long ago. it was a feat then just to make it to the ground safely, let alone pinpoint a 100x100 target (net or no net)

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:13:11am

From Electoral-Vote.com

some example questions why trump might skip the debates
these are simple, fair questions not tough or gotchas

- In a debate, you boasted of your close relationship with Jordan’s King Hussein, who had died 20 years ago. What is your relationship with his son and heir, King Abdullah?

- You have confused Virginia’s Tim Kaine with New Jersey’s Tom Kean, as you did Hamas with Hezbollah, the Quds force with al Qaida, etc. Should a president have difficulty distinguishing things with similar names?

- The most respected nonpartisan fact-checking organization finds less than one out of every six things you say to be true. In one of your books, you wrote about the advantages of exaggerating, of saying things that are not true. Why should anyone believe what you say?

- You have said that you are 100% pro-choice. You even asked your pregnant mistress if she was going to have an abortion. More recently you said that the law should punish any woman who has an abortion. What do you believe now and why?

- You have accumulated wealth by stiffing contractors, saddling investors with the burdens of your bankruptcies, manufacturing products overseas, and importing workers for your casinos. How have you demonstrated your concern for American workers?

- Why do you think Americans will be safer if Japan and South Korea develop nuclear weapons?

-Why would you like Vladimir Putin to absorb the Crimean peninsula and the Baltic countries into Russia?

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:16:18am

re: #94 Stanley Sea

And away we go!

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Now he’ll say Crimea is part of Russia. They voted, don’t you know? Just like Brexit.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:17:07am

the campaign in one line:

” A person void of empathy for the people he wishes to lead cannot be trusted with that leadership.” - Khizr Khan

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Split Ticket  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:19:12am

re: #99 dangerman

Thanks for Electoral Vote. Good article. And yes Mr Khan is on target about that Trump person.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:19:22am
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b.d.  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:19:57am

If the numbers show that there is no chance at all for Trump and he declares that the media is mean to him and quits, does Pence become the new nominee?

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:21:39am

re: #98 darthstar

Now he’ll say Crimea is part of Russia. They voted, don’t you know? Just like Brexit.

I hate being right sometimes.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:24:21am

re: #102 b.d.

If the numbers show that there is no chance at all for Trump and he declares that the media is mean to him and quits, does Pence become the new nominee?

I’ve been thinking about that for a while. If tRump is out, for whatever reason—the convention didn’t nominate Pence for President. OTOH, the convention is really just a publicity exercise—I suppose the RNC could change horses in midstream. Then who’s the VP candidate? It’d be a hell of a mess.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:24:35am

Actually, you probably shouldn’t read them. It’s sad.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:24:37am

re: #102 b.d.

If the numbers show that there is no chance at all for Trump and he declares that the media is mean to him and quits, does Pence become the new nominee?

There’s no precedent, but it would be up to the party. But some states require the candidate to be on the ballot by a certain time, so Trump’s name may still be on some if he waited too long.

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b.d.  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:24:48am

Good Lord this interviews seems to be a disaster.

Now he claims that Hillary bribed Bloomberg?

Unfreaking believable.

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jeffreyw  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:28:11am

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Good morning!

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Split Ticket  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:29:13am

re: #107 b.d.

He is pointing the finger at others so that the blame will be on them. These faults are the same ones he has but by pointing the finger at someone else he takes the focus off of himself.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:29:52am

re: #107 b.d.

Good Lord this interviews seems to be a disaster.

Now he claims that Hillary bribed Bloomberg?

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Unfreaking believable.

Sorry, Trump, but some people actually are billionaires.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:30:34am

re: #104 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think Pence would have to stay as VP. To convince even themselves that they had any sort of legitimacy, they’d more or less have to replace tRump with the guy who came in second, Ted Cruz. But they didn’t allow a vote, so that’s going to look kind of shady as well….

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:30:53am

re: #83 fern01

It would be really amazing to see a gay couple in the white house - doubt I’ll live that long - but my grandchild will for sure. Another expansion of rolls.

I think the First Guy will be more in the background that his wife was in the 90s.

I hope so. I like Bill but I think he needs to stay out of the limelight. He has other things going to keep him busy away from D.C.. Maybe he can do some nude modeling.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:31:41am

You deserve people like Jan Brewer and John McCain, Arizona…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:33:02am

Through the looking glass:

I’m getting election solicitations from a website, democrats.org. It has the usual pick-list of donations to select, under a short letter from ‘Barak’ supporting HRC. The donations are directed to the https site my.democrats.org. For some reason it just looks a little skeevy. Checking a number of scam-checker sites, it comes up clean on very thin auto-evaluation formats. Not finding a lot of other discussion on the InterTubes.

Anybody have a handle on this? Both GOP and Dems were plagued by misdirection scams in 2012.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:35:39am

re: #97 dangerman

From Electoral-Vote.com

some example questions why trump might skip the debates
these are simple, fair questions not tough or gotchas

- In a debate, you boasted of your close relationship with Jordan’s King Hussein, who had died 20 years ago. What is your relationship with his son and heir, King Abdullah?

- You have confused Virginia’s Tim Kaine with New Jersey’s Tom Kean, as you did Hamas with Hezbollah, the Quds force with al Qaida, etc. Should a president have difficulty distinguishing things with similar names?

- The most respected nonpartisan fact-checking organization finds less than one out of every six things you say to be true. In one of your books, you wrote about the advantages of exaggerating, of saying things that are not true. Why should anyone believe what you say?

- You have said that you are 100% pro-choice. You even asked your pregnant mistress if she was going to have an abortion. More recently you said that the law should punish any woman who has an abortion. What do you believe now and why?

- You have accumulated wealth by stiffing contractors, saddling investors with the burdens of your bankruptcies, manufacturing products overseas, and importing workers for your casinos. How have you demonstrated your concern for American workers?

- Why do you think Americans will be safer if Japan and South Korea develop nuclear weapons?

-Why would you like Vladimir Putin to absorb the Crimean peninsula and the Baltic countries into Russia?

You just blew your Major Media Journalism merit badge.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:38:46am

re: #115 Decatur Deb

You just blew your Major Media Journalism merit badge.

a badge i will not wear, with honor

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:39:26am

re: #43 MsJ

Not enough. I want a 25+ bounce, please.

And not to make a big deal out of this, but I, as an American, find it distasteful that our possible (God forbid) First Lady has naked pics floating around. I just do. I’d say this if that FLOTUS was a dem or a GOPer.

I usually agree with you, but I can’t here. And that’s cool. There are plenty of valid criticisms to make against Melania (plagiarism, the degree-that-never-was), but I can’t get on board with slut-shaming.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:43:03am

Craig has been very patient with the new kitten. He’s started playing with her, and this morning showed her how to bring a gift to daddy and leave it just outside the bedroom door. My little killer. He makes me proud.

And that explains why our dog Banjo has been so quiet on the bed this morning. Uh, dad…there’s a dead thing by the bedroom door…can you get it? Dogs only like to pretend they’re killing shit.

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Teukka  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:43:40am

re: #94 Stanley Sea

And away we go!

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He just didn’t, did he?!? o.o

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fern01  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:45:04am

re: #117 JasonA

I usually agree with you, but I can’t here. And that’s cool. There are plenty of valid criticisms to make against Melania (plagiarism, the degree-that-never-was), but I can’t get on board with slut-shaming.

I don’t see that saying something is distasteful is slut shaming. The reality is Trump married her because of her beautiful body. He said it is a norm in Europe to have such photographs around - that is a lie.

Trump would prefer those photos weren’t currently on display - if it was a relative of the dem nominee - there would be slut shaming all over the twitter by the GOP nominee. The reaction to Melania has been extremely muted - dems are like that & GOPers probably believe it is someone pretending to be their hero’s wife.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:47:18am

Dim Jim doing what SMOTI does

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:47:59am

re: #117 JasonA

I usually agree with you, but I can’t here. And that’s cool. There are plenty of valid criticisms to make against Melania (plagiarism, the degree-that-never-was), but I can’t get on board with slut-shaming.

There is a difference between a private citizen and someone who makes her living in the public eye. That is why celebrities, politicians and sports figures are held up to slightly different standards for their private lives

PS 67K karma points!!! Thanks all!!!

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:50:02am
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b.d.  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:54:07am

re: #123 Lidane

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I believe this is the definition of flailing.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:54:10am

re: #120 fern01

I don’t see that saying something is distasteful is slut shaming. The reality is Trump married her because of her beautiful body. He said it is a norm in Europe to have such photographs around - that is a lie.

Trump would prefer those photos weren’t currently on display - if it was a relative of the dem nominee - there would be slut shaming all over the twitter by the GOP nominee. The reaction to Melania has been extremely muted - dems are like that & GOPers probably believe it is someone pretending to be their hero’s wife.

As noted by someone above, there were those calling Michelle’s bare arms distasteful. It’s an attitude that I want to see go away.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:54:29am

re: #117 JasonA

I usually agree with you, but I can’t here. And that’s cool. There are plenty of valid criticisms to make against Melania (plagiarism, the degree-that-never-was), but I can’t get on board with slut-shaming.

My forebrain agrees with you.
My brainstem agrees with Chris Rock:

“As a father, you have only one job to do: Keep your daughter off the pole!…If she’s dancin’ on a pole, you fucked up!”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:54:53am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:55:22am
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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:56:14am
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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:56:24am

re: #123 Lidane

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you’re an effing presidential candidate

“Am I not allowed to respond?” is juvenile

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 6:59:42am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

My forebrain agrees with you.
My brainstem agrees with Chris Rock:

“As a father, you have only one job to do: Keep your daughter off the pole!…If she’s dancin’ on a pole, you fucked up!”

lol

I do tend to see things too rationally sometimes. I know this matters to some people, but I have difficulty wrapping my head around it, and that’s on me. Like I said, it’s all cool.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:00:11am

Good.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:00:13am

re: #130 dangerman

you’re an effing presidential candidate

“Am I not allowed to respond?” is juvenile

you know this is starting (?!) to piss me off

you want(?) to be president of the United States
and your strategy is to display kindegarten-grade butthurt

(of course its not a strategy) its pathological

gah

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:01:08am

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

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Good.

I’m glad. He shows McConnell, Ryan, and the rest of the GOP leadership for what they are- enablers.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:02:31am

I am so sick of Trump’s whining. I see his latest is HILLARY VOTED FOR IRAQ NOT ME. I opposed the war myself but Mr. Khan didn’t condemn the war. He condemned YOUR attacks on the patriotism of Muslim-Americans that you continue to make.

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:02:39am

re: #117 JasonA

I usually agree with you, but I can’t here. And that’s cool. There are plenty of valid criticisms to make against Melania (plagiarism, the degree-that-never-was), but I can’t get on board with slut-shaming.

When I saw the NY Post cover yesterday I knee jerked and assumed Murdoch had turned on Trump.

This morning I’m thinking that it was Trump’s idea because he wanted to show off his piece of meat and Murdoch said “fine, it will sell papers”.

I’m going with that interpretation now.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:03:08am

re: #129 Lidane

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Good to see this too. General Allen is 100% correct.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:03:35am

Another sizzling hot take from Baby Whiplash

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:03:39am

Oh yay. Manafort on MTP right now.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:03:46am

Hot takes from some random asshole:

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:04:24am

re: #136 Skip Intro

When I saw the NY Post cover yesterday I knee jerked and assumed Murdoch had turned on Trump.

This morning I’m thinking that it was Trump’s idea because he wanted to show off his piece of meat and Murdoch said “fine, it will sell papers”.

I’m going with that interpretation now.

One of the other sites in Memeorandum sees it as a desperate ploy to distract from his Gold Star FU.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:05:29am

sometimes the “like” buttons are moving targets

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:05:52am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

Another sizzling hot take from Baby Whiplash

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He also saved a lot of Muslims too you hateful little shit who was too chicken to sign up for the war that the Khans’ son died in.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:06:03am

The Khans were but a single moment in the Democratic Convention that differentiated the parties in stark ways. It could have remained so - and I suspect the GOP would have preferred it be but one emotional moment that faded quickly - except Donald Trump doesn’t know how to admit when he’s fucked. Here we are, four days later, and they’re still getting more air time than Jeb! got in all of February and Trump just keeps on digging.

Maybe his master plan is to just be so offensive nobody is able to comprehend a leader not being like that? I don’t know if watching Idiocracy is the best way to model a campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:06:45am

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

Hot takes from some random asshole:

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Barely speak English? I understood him perfectly. He had an accent yes but welcome to America, the real America where not everyone sounds the same. These bigots are unbelievable. Nice base you got there GOP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:07:31am

re: #144 darthstar

The Khans were but a single moment in the Democratic Convention that differentiated the parties in stark ways. It could have remained so - and I suspect the GOP would have preferred it be but one emotional moment that faded quickly - except Donald Trump doesn’t know how to admit when he’s fucked. Here we are, four days later, and they’re still getting more air time than Jeb! got in all of February and Trump just keeps on digging.

Maybe his master plan is to just be so offensive nobody is able to comprehend a leader not being like that? I don’t know if watching Idiocracy is the best way to model a campaign.

President Camacho was a better leader than Trump. He had the self awareness to realize that he was stupid and got The Smartest Man In The World, (Not Sure) to be his adviser.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:08:16am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Barely speak English? I understood him perfectly. He had an accent yes but welcome to America, the real America where not everyone sounds the same. These bigots are unbelievable. Nice base you got there GOP.

You know who has a really annoying, whiny nasal accent?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:08:51am

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

You know who has a really annoying, whiny nasal accent?

If I never hear that voice again after November, I’ll die a happy man.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:09:48am

re: #144 darthstar

The Khans were but a single moment in the Democratic Convention that differentiated the parties in stark ways. It could have remained so - and I suspect the GOP would have preferred it be but one emotional moment that faded quickly - except Donald Trump doesn’t know how to admit when he’s fucked. Here we are, four days later, and they’re still getting more air time than Jeb! got in all of February and Trump just keeps on digging.

Maybe his master plan is to just be so offensive nobody is able to comprehend a leader not being like that? I don’t know if watching Idiocracy is the best way to model a campaign.

A man you can bait with a tweet…

Seriously, there is no plan.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:11:56am
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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:13:06am

Mr. Khan is on MTP right now. Strange how I can perfectly understand him considering he “barely speaks English.” (◔_◔)

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:13:17am

Morning!

Currently watching MTP and Paul Manafort stumble with his words trying to excuse The Trump. I guess he knows he is full of shit.

He’s blaming all the comments against Trump as Clinton talking points. And people like MTP and the other press are running with Clinton’s points and giving her free time. Yeah right Slick. How about how Trump has used the media all along.

Then he tried to blame the failed policies in the Middle East in 2009 on President Clinton and Secretary Obama.

And he is bitching about Clinton lying, bad morals dealing with Sanders manipulation, etc.

Paul. You suck. Your candidate sucks and even Chuck Todd is messing you up bad. Manafort is totally uncomfortable. I think this is a sign of panic. Hopefully Trump blows up this week.

The heat is on!

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:14:12am

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

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Grace equates to weakness in his mind. He is the living embodiment of the worst of masculinity.

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CleverToad  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:15:26am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Are they selling the Post under a protective shield in NY? They certainly would in AL.

That’s my distaste — I’m a cranky old lady and I don’t think anybody’s nekkid picture belongs on the front of a newspaper. Highly improbable that this is valid political commentary on the part of the publisher, it’s just the usual cheap ploy to sell copies.

If Melania chose to pose nude, that’s her business.
If somebody chooses to seek out the pictures for viewing, that’s theirs.
If it is dignified or appropriate for a First Lady, opinions may vary.
Splashing it all over the front page of a paper that will displayed in public, and in front of kids as well as adults who didn’t want to see that image? Big fat nope.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:18:49am

Chuck asked Mr. Khan if any elected Republicans had reached out to him. He said yes, but won’t name them out of respect for their confidentiality. A very classy man.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:20:07am

re: #33 Nyet

Re: Melania pictures, she’s a fair target, but the substance of the attack is wrong. Erotic pictures aren’t a bad or a shameful thing or incompatible with being the first lady.

And it wasn’t the Left that posted those photos; it was Murdoch’s rag the New York Post.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:20:10am

re: #149 JasonA

A man you can bait with a tweet…

Seriously, there is no plan.

Sure there is:

Agenda:

1. Make America Great Again

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:20:44am

re: #154 CleverToad

That’s my distaste — I’m a cranky old lady and I don’t think anybody’s nekkid picture belongs on the front of a newspaper. Highly improbable that this is valid political commentary on the part of the publisher, it’s just the usual cheap ploy to sell copies.

If Melania chose to pose nude, that’s her business.
If somebody chooses to seek out the pictures for viewing, that’s theirs.
If it is dignified or appropriate for a First Lady, opinions may vary.
Splashing it all over the front page of a paper that will displayed in public, and in front of kids as well as adults who didn’t want to see that image? Big fat nope.

We should be adults and attack her solely based on her speech and her support of Donald. I don’t think it should matter either whether she has posed nude. Not that Helen Mirren is going to be first lady, but she’s done a number of films where she’s nude, and most of us think she can be a serious, elegant woman.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:21:09am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:21:20am

re: #140 goddamnedfrank

Hot takes from some random asshole:

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“Well gee whiz. If military service, sacrifice of your son, having a prestigious education, and working as a lawyer, don’t make you a real American… Then what does, I wonder? What’s different about the Khans? HELP ME UNDERSTAND, REPUBLICAN GUY.”

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If I could bring myself to engage with Drumpf personally I would tweet him “Go ahead and say the Khans aren’t real Americans. I triple-double-dog-dare you. Whip out that little ol’ hate wiener and put it on the table like a real man. DO IT.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:21:27am

Gang, I think I have Trump’s con figured out. It may be rambling and somewhat disjointed, and requires other actors to play out certain roles they normally wouldn’t want to do in normal circumstances, but Trump’s candidacy has made this a very unusual circumstance. This also includes analysis of some of the recent articles posted by Politco and other sources.

So, away we go….

Under the assumption that Trump is in it to the very end and doesn’t bail, here’s what I see may happen:

The RNC will have their ratfuckers do their damnest to get Johnson high-enough poll numbers to ensure that he meets the threshhold to be included in the debates. This takes some of the heat off of Trump and puts Hillary on the defensive. Since there are three debates, they have to move heaven and earth to make that happen for the first debate. Josh Marshall doesn’t think that’s likely, I would normally agree but the downticket races are too important for the GOP to have Trump potentially screwing those over and losing any seats. The side effect of this is that it will finally expose what Clay Shirky called ‘the racist welfare state’ wide out into the open for one and all to see. The Democrats that then tailor their message to counter. If its just Hillary and Trump, Trump will do the debate and cancel the remaining debates. The DNC and the Hillary campaign have had their ground game up and running for months, Trump and the RNC are only now trying to catch up, and are short on cash. The Democrts have to up their ground game to ensure that all disenfranchised voters get back the franchise, and the millenials must turn out in force.

Assuming Trump loses and that no adverse events happen to him where he is seriously damaged/indicted, he signs an exclusive deal with Fox to bring “The Apprentice” to Fox terrestrial and signs with Fox News as a political analyst-and possibly Fox Business for a exclusive ‘Trump on Business’ series.

The media has their own agenda, and it isn’t to its viewers. They have been AWOL. Now that we are in the general, they will have to step up their game and do better adversarial interviewing-especially on the Sunday Morning shows.

I’m sure I’m missing some pieces here and there, but this is my base on which we can tweak as things march along.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:21:45am

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

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He exceeds expectations!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:22:19am

re: #155 JasonA

Chuck asked Mr. Khan if any elected Republicans had reached out to him. He said yes, but won’t name them out of respect for their confidentiality. A very classy man.

I saw that Nolte was complaining that the Dems used his son’s death. There’s a reason why Mr. Khan did not criticize George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. Neither of those three especially Bush, the man who was President when his son died would think to question the patriotism of American Muslims. God knows I did not like Bush but he wasn’t a bigot to Muslims.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:23:30am
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Belafon  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:24:12am

re: #156 Big Beautiful Door

And it wasn’t the Left that posted those photos; it was Murdoch’s rag the New York Post.

Which makes me wonder if they’re hoping to get the “I need the kleenexes and I’ll be in my room” demographic.

Notice the box of tissue
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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:24:42am

re: #164 Lidane

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone so thin skinned not just in politics but ever.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:24:49am

re: #161 Eric The Fruit Bat

Isn’t giving Johnson a platform a bad thing for Trump? It really seems more likely to me that upping his profile peels more votes away from Trump. Sure, it gives Trump a better edge in the debates, but long-term… oh. Trump doesn’t think long-term. At all. This could happen, sure. Why not. Nothing surprises me anymore.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:26:06am

How long before Trump is on camera mocking the Khan’s accent?

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:26:25am

re: #167 JasonA

Isn’t giving Johnson a platform a bad thing for Trump? It really seems more likely to me that upping his profile peels more votes away from Trump. Sure, it gives Trump a better edge in the debates, but long-term… oh. Trump doesn’t think long-term. At all. This could happen, sure. Why not. Nothing surprises me anymore.

And what if Johnson were in it to win? Wouldn’t that give him more incentive to go after Trump, believing he can get the rational vote?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:27:00am

re: #168 Pawn of the Oppressor

How long before Trump is on camera mocking the Khan’s accent?

Sooner rather than later I expect since Khan is still criticizing him. He’s someone who can’t handle criticism at all.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:27:36am

And it just keeps going:

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:27:47am

re: #161 Eric The Fruit Bat

johnson in the debates will not make trump look better

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:28:44am

re: #171 Lidane

And it just keeps going:

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Go down with that ship, Jeff.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:28:44am

re: #171 Lidane

And it just keeps going:

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Of course he does, this is the clown who thought it was funny to say he liked the KKK before he found out some of them smoked pot but I’m starting to think he wasn’t joking.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:29:09am

re: #173 JasonA

Go down with that ship, Jeff.

Alas, it will be hard for him to do so in Alabama.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:31:04am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Alas, it will be hard for him to do so in Alabama.

Yeah, I don’t even think he’s up until…2020?

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:32:14am

This is the hill that Trump chooses to die on? Picking a fight with a family who lost a son fighting for this country?

The lot of them are 10 times more stupid than I gave them credit for. And I wasn’t giving them a whole lot of credit to start with.

Please proceed. All of you.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:32:36am

re: #176 JasonA

Yeah, I don’t even think he’s up until…2020?

Yeah I think he was just up and he’ll be pushing 80 by so he’ll probably retire. Sessions has quietly took Jesse Helms spot as “Senator most likely to have taken part in a lynching”,

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:32:42am

re: #167 JasonA

You make a point there I hadn’t thought of: if Johnson got included in the first debate and scores high, then what? Since Johnson tows the Libertarian line, I don’t think some of his ideas will resonate all that well. Assuming Johnson gets into the first debate and Trump walks, does it now become a Clinton/Johnson debate?

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Jayleia  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:33:57am

[10:31:09 AM] The Chilean Law Talking Girl: Sarah Palin looks like a measured thoughtfull scholar…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:34:39am

We could well see something like 1912 with Trump finishing in third behind Clinton and Johnson. Of course, Gary Johnson doesn’t have the sway with Republican voters that Teddy Roosevelt did. I would love for Trump to be soundly rejected and receive 0 electoral votes but that’s too idealistic. The best to hope for is for Clinton to simply win. I’d prefer a landslide but anything anything that keeps this asshole out of the WH.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:36:26am

Bibi’s back and there’s gonna be trouble,
Heya, heya, the Bibi’s back…

This is the guy I worry about putting a collar on Trump more than Putin.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:36:41am

re: #172 dangerman

johnson in the debates will not make trump look better

Trump can’t go one-on-one and expect to come out unscathed. If there are more than one in a debate, he can resort to the same tactics that got him through the primaries.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:37:57am

re: #183 Eric The Fruit Bat

Trump can’t go one-on-one and expect to come out unscathed. If there are more than one in a debate, he can resort to the same tactics that got him through the primaries.

Rely on the fact that the others can’t attack him because they might alienate Republican voters?

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:38:31am

Ouch…less intellectually curious than Palin? That’s harsh.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:39:03am
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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:40:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:41:25am

re: #152 ObserverArt

I want Trump to derail starting around the middle of September and continuing into the first and second weeks of October.

The absolute panic of the GOP at that point should be quite breathtaking to behold. I would imagine the only plan open to them in such a possibility would be to do their damnedest to limit the damage downticket.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:42:09am
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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:42:22am

re: #183 Eric The Fruit Bat

Trump can’t go one-on-one and expect to come out unscathed. If there are more than one in a debate, he can resort to the same tactics that got him through the primaries.

he can. i dont think that helps him in any meaningful way
i think clinton would handle him the same as if it was just them two - the adult, literate, informed expert in the (debate) room who has been in “the” room
and she will tear johnsons policies apart easily

i have no support for this

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:42:36am

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

This is like the Stepford Teenagers. The hell is this?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:43:21am

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

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I noticed that too. He tweeted something like “Hillary voted for the war not me”, Khan isn’t mad about the war. He’s mad that Trump goes around questioning the patriotism of people like his son. He just doesn’t get that this is why Khan has focused on him.

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b_sharp  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:43:59am

re: #164 Lidane

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Trump believes he’s a master of deflection. Unfortunately for him, it’s obvious to people not bent over by their sycophantic love of the authoritarian effluvium spilling from Trump’s mouth.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:44:13am

LOLOLOL David Simon!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:44:34am

re: #189 JasonA

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Summer is NOT the season.

He’s boldface lying.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:44:34am

re: #191 Ziggy_TARDIS

This is like the Stepford Teenagers. The hell is this?

Clearly, our cloning technology has taken a quantum leap forward.

Heh.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:45:25am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

PS 67K karma points!!! Thanks all!!!

always felt i had pretty good karma
didnt know they kept actual score

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:45:28am

There really needs to be long term consequences for the GOP nominating Trump. They can’t just lose this election and then get to wash their hands clean of him. Nope, you guys earned this and I don’t want to hear you crying about how conservatives and Republicans are called bigoted when you nominated Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:45:42am

re: #171 Lidane

And it just keeps going:

Sen. Jeff Sessions: “I reject” Khizr Khan’s criticism of Trump

Mah’ esteemed senator rejects criticism of his namesake, Jefferson Davis, too.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:46:07am

Ghazala Khan responds in the Washington Post (via Political Wire):

Donald Drumpf said that maybe I wasn’t allowed to say anything. That is not true. My husband asked me if I wanted to speak, but I told him I could not. My religion teaches me that all human beings are equal in God’s eyes. Husband and wife are part of each other; you should love and respect each other so you can take care of the family.

When Donald Drumpf is talking about Islam, he is ignorant. If he studied the real Islam and Koran, all the ideas he gets from terrorists would change, because terrorism is a different religion.

Donald Drumpf said he has made a lot of sacrifices. He doesn’t know what the word sacrifice means.

I’m starting to think Trump really picked a fight with the wrong people.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:46:44am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Via Balloon Juice:

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b_sharp  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:47:51am

re: #197 dangerman

always felt i had pretty good karma
didnt know they kept actual score

Who the fuck is Karma, and does she dance naked in the moonlight?

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:48:17am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

There really needs to be long term consequences for the GOP nominating Trump. They can’t just lose this election and then get to wash their hands clean of him. Nope, you guys earned this and I don’t want to hear you crying about how conservatives and Republicans are called bigoted when you nominated Trump.

going into the future it should be relatively easy - it’ll be “the party of trump” from now on. “remember him?”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:49:16am

re: #203 dangerman

going into the future it should be relatively easy - it’ll be “the party of trump” from now on. “remember him?”

A sort of reverse the Party of Lincoln where the GOP could compensate for shortcomings by reminding voters that theirs was Abe’s party.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:49:33am

re: #34 Nyet

Hillary got a PPP bounce, a more realistic-looking +5. Nice.

As noted in a previous thread, Nate Silver’s nowcast is designed to rapidly reflect the current polling. So just as it strongly swung in favor of Trump, its now swinging quickly for Clinton. All of which is pretty meaningless.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:50:17am

re: #200 makeitstop

Ghazala Khan responds in the Washington Post (via Political Wire):

I’m starting to think Trump really picked a fight with the wrong people.

because he wouldnt stop, i knew she was going to come back again, in writing, after saturdays interview

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:51:24am
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Belafon  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:51:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:51:41am

re: #205 Big Beautiful Door

As noted in a previous thread, Nate Silver’s nowcast is designed to rapidly reflect the current polling. So just as it strongly swung in favor of Trump, its now swinging quickly for Clinton. All of which is pretty meaningless.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Whoa did it just go from 51% to 56% in a blink?

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:52:10am

re: #202 b_sharp

Who the fuck is Karma, and does she dance naked in the moonlight?

karma chameleon?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:52:33am

re: #203 dangerman

going into the future it should be relatively easy - it’ll be “the party of trump” from now on. “remember him?”

I’ve said previously that the GOP will ultimately devolve into a white nationalist/white supremacist political party, with its core constituency to be found in the aging and shrinking white populations of the Deep South and parts of the West (Eastern OR, Eastern WA, Idaho, etc).

Trump confirms this hypothesis, IMO.

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:52:44am

It is real hard to watch any coverage these days by the big media. They let the “political analysts” (who just happen to have worked or still do work directly with the Trump campaign) just run with their “messages.” And of course no push back.

Alex Castellanos got to defend Trump over Mr. Kahn by going with Benghazi and how dangerous Hillary allowed the embassy to be weakly funded and stopped any help by having the people fighting over what uniforms to wear. And…no push back from Chuckles.

I don’t watch a lot of CNN and Fox…how many ex-Trump or current Trump associates (Castellanos heads a Trump PAC) are currently running loose on their stations?

I never realized when I read 1984 and Brave New World I was reading a road map to 2016.

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mmmirele  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:53:01am

re: #182 darthstar

Bibi’s back and there’s gonna be trouble,
Heya, heya, the Bibi’s back…

This is the guy I worry about putting a collar on Trump more than Putin.

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Interestingly, Gershom Gorenberg over at The American Prospect thinks Bibi wants to finish up a deal on US aid with Obama quickly because he doesn’t know how it would work out under a Trump administration:

Why Netanyahu Suddenly Wants a Deal on U.S. Aid

prospect.org

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:53:30am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

A sort of reverse the Party of Lincoln where the GOP could compensate for shortcomings by reminding voters that theirs was Abe’s party.

ding ding ding ding

there’s no washing this one off
its too yuuuge (and i mean this part seriously - it’s way too big to be whitewashed into history)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:53:51am

re: #212 ObserverArt

It is real hard to watch any coverage these days by the big media. They let the “political analysts” (who just happen to have worked or still do work directly with the Trump campaign) just run with their “messages.” And of course no push back.

Alex Castellanos got to defend Trump over Mr. Kahn by going with Benghazi and how dangerous Hillary allowed the embassy to be weakly funded and stopped any help by having the people fighting over what uniforms to wear. And…no push back from Chuckles.

I don’t watch a lot of CNN and Fox…how many ex-Trump or current Trump associates (Castellanos heads a Trump PAC) are currently running loose on their stations.

I never realized when I read 1984 and Brave New World I was reading a road map to 2016.

Wait, wait Castelllanos blamed Clinton for the consulate’s security funding? Might want to look at your own party for that one, Al.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:54:27am

re: #213 mmmirele

Interestingly, Gershom Gorenberg over at The American Prospect thinks Bibi wants to finish up a deal on US aid with Obama quickly because he doesn’t know how it would work out under a Trump administration:

Why Netanyahu Suddenly Wants a Deal on U.S. Aid

prospect.org

Bibi has to seen the actual Neo-Nazis Trump has RTed.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:54:40am
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mmmirele  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:55:18am

re: #205 Big Beautiful Door

As noted in a previous thread, Nate Silver’s nowcast is designed to rapidly reflect the current polling. So just as it strongly swung in favor of Trump, its now swinging quickly for Clinton. All of which is pretty meaningless.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

National polling is meaningless. You need state polling to tell you where you stand.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:55:19am

re: #214 dangerman

ding ding ding ding

there’s no washing this one off
its too yuuuge (and i mean this part seriously - it’s way too big to be whitewashed into history)

Right and any GOPer who even so much as said “I’m supporting the nominee” needs to be linked with him. They chose party over everything else.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:55:56am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Wait, wait Castelllanos blamed Clinton for the consulate’s security funding? Might want to look at your own party for that one, Al.

and the actual constitution for where funding comes from…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:56:15am

re: #217 Lidane

“Cannonade of bullshit”.

Heh. Perfectly descriptive.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:56:34am

LOL. Alex just agreed that his pac’s ad-buying campaign “makes no sense.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:56:46am

re: #220 dangerman

and the actual constitution for where funding comes from…

Well, I’m sure Mr. Khan could lend his Constitution to Alex when Trump’s done reading it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:56:46am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:57:25am

re: #218 mmmirele

National polling is meaningless. You need state polling to tell you where you stand.

Nate’s models are state/local with a slight weight for national polls and, in one, historical data.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:58:32am

re: #224 goddamnedfrank

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I’m going to be abroad next summer. I know no matter what the result, I’m going to get asked my thoughts on the Cheeto Fascist. I was in Ireland the year Obama became Presideent and I still rememebr an African immigrant to Ireland asking me what I thought about him. Told him how I voted for him and I thought that his detractors were more or less jackasses who needed to give him a chance since Bush had made so many fuck ups.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:58:37am

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Well, I’m sure Mr. Khan could lend his Constitution to Alex when Trump’s done reading it.

or he could just google it…
after all, its not changed that often

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 7:59:18am

re: #227 dangerman

or he could just google it…
after all, its not changed that often

I know, I was being a wiseass there. Seriously blaming the Secretary of State for the funding?

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:00:45am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

I’m going to be abroad next summer.

thought of switching once myself. stuck with (my) original design after all ;-)

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:01:15am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

I know, I was being a wiseass there. Seriously blaming the Secretary of State for the funding?

To be fair it’s really his job to be biased. The political advisor to the Trump Super PAC really has no business on a show like that anyway if you ask me, but no one did.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:02:48am

re: #230 JasonA

To be fair it’s really his job to be biased. The political advisor to the Trump Super PAC really has no business on a show like that anyway if you ask me, but no one did.

True that. I expect him to be biased but I think so many of the people who blame Clinton for Benghazi have no idea that the party who controlled the Congress are the ones who cut the security.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:04:26am

I know Bloomberg doesn’t actually walk the streets of NYC, but if by chance he’s on 5th Ave. he might want to keep an eye out for a short-fingered vulgarian with a gun testing his theory of immovable support.

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Great White Snark  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:05:27am

About as un scientific as it gets, but the undercurrents of righteous outrage seem to be percolating to the surface with more frequency. Trump casts aside empathy and fairness as if they were some pamphlet. My boss is a Trump guy and catches some heat for it. Makes for a tense office.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:05:32am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

True that. I expect him to be biased but I think so many of the people who blame Clinton for Benghazi have no idea that the party who controlled the Congress are the ones who cut the security.

they really conflate three separate issues (at least) into one and lay it all on her

control of funding - (congress)
possible reallocation of budget lines to or away from “security”, where and when allowed (sos)
not yelling and screaming loud enough at congress for more $ (sos)

of course the first one is the big one

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Mattand  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:05:47am

re: #155 JasonA

Chuck asked Mr. Khan if any elected Republicans had reached out to him. He said yes, but won’t name them out of respect for their confidentiality. A very classy man.

Christ, can you imagine that conversation?

“As a Republican, Mr. Khan, I’m embarrassed for myself and the party for the awful, horrible things Trump said about your son, who is unequivocally an American hero?

“By the way, I’d appreciate it if you didn’t name me. Politics, you know.”

Basically the real life version of the “Sorry about the ‘Up yours, n-CLANG’” scene in Blazing Saddles.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:06:18am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:07:18am
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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:07:45am

Meanwhile, Fox News is running with BENGHAZI!!! in their Hillary interview:

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ObserverArt  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:07:57am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Wait, wait Castelllanos blamed Clinton for the consulate’s security funding? Might want to look at your own party for that one, Al.

Yeah he did. And knowing that a lot of that crap has been thoroughly shot down.

That tells me one thing…the “talk speak” they have done must stick with the people they aim their BS at.

That is troubling. The facts have come out on so much of all of this stuff being said, yet the initial talking points stick no matter what. All the House Hearings and results mean nothing other than the GOP got to stress those initial talking points even if it all fell apart in their investigations.

Come on…fighting over what uniforms that were to be worn caused the “Benghazi Saviors” to not make it and four Americans died. That is all worse than the wars that messed up the Middle East.

Idiocracy is no longer a movie. It was a pre-documentary.

My head hurts.

I’m going to slide out and start to get ready to go to the Hillary gig here in Columbus today. It’s just off the downtown area a few blocks north of my ol’ art school Alma Mater! This should be interesting. I’ll be representing Little Green Footballs National News Network!

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:08:21am

re: #233 Great White Snark

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About as un scientific as it gets, but the undercurrents of righteous outrage seem to be percolating to the surface with more frequency. Trump casts aside empathy and fairness as if they were some pamphlet. My boss is a Trump guy and catches some heat for it. Makes for a tense office.

do you or dont you - only your uber driver knows for sure

i’ve said it before
i think the actual voting will not be reflective in the polling

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Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:10:22am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:11:05am

re: #240 dangerman

do you or dont you - only your uber driver knows for sure

i’ve said it before
i think the actual voting will not be reflective in the polling

Just about every other common-sense rule of election campaigns has gone out the window this cycle.

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Mattand  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:11:24am

re: #240 dangerman

do you or dont you - only your uber driver knows for sure

i’ve said it before
i think the actual voting will not be reflective in the polling

Yeah, the author of the Tweet is a New Yorker, and I’m assuming all of these Uber rides took place there. New York is hip to what a fuckup Trump is.

Much of the rest of America? Not so much.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:11:45am

re: #241 Charles Johnson

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i went with “pathological”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:12:45am

re: #243 Mattand

Yeah, the author of the Tweet is a New Yorker, and I’m assuming all of these Uber rides took place there. New York is hip to what a fuckup Trump is.

Much of the rest of America? Not so much.

You mean “Real America”?

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:12:54am

re: #236 Lidane

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I wonder if anyone is still trying to figure out how on earth the Democrats stole the branding of the patriotic party away from the Republicans.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:13:20am

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

Dim Jim doing what SMOTI does

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I wondered yesterday who would be the first person to say Khan joined the military so he could kill American soldiers, SMOTI comes a hair’s breadth short of saying it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:13:38am

re: #246 JasonA

I wonder if anyone is still trying to figure out how on earth the Democrats stole the branding of the patriotic party away from the Republicans.

Let them figure out for a generation or so.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:14:35am

re: #225 Decatur Deb

Nate’s models are state/local with a slight weight for national polls and, in one, historical data.

Though there hasn’t been a lot of state polling lately. That will probably change this week.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:15:01am

I just turned the channel over to ESPN2.

Probably not on purpose, but there is some epic level trolling with the network programming. The 30 for 30 documentary show is on, and the episode playing is: “Small Potatoes; Who killed the USFL?”

If you haven’t seen it, let me give you the answer to the question

Donald Trump

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:16:05am

re: #243 Mattand

Yeah, the author of the Tweet is a New Yorker, and I’m assuming all of these Uber rides took place there. New York is hip to what a fuckup Trump is.

Much of the rest of America? Not so much.

i think theres more
a segment arent telling pollsters anything - for different reasons than the past
a segment has to maintain the public face of R but wont vote for him
a segment is working out how to live with voting for D because it’s more effective than third party or none of the above

in the privacy of the voting booth trump will get less and clinton will get more votes than the polls will have reported

it’s a gut feeling
i have no support for this - and i’m explaining it poorly

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:16:43am

re: #249 Big Beautiful Door

Though there hasn’t been a lot of state polling lately. That will probably change this week.

Yeah, it’s all basically a collection of grab-samples right now. RCP is just starting to show a majority of LV polls, and that only in the head-to-head 2 way.

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Great White Snark  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:17:01am

re: #240 dangerman

do you or dont you - only your uber driver knows for sure

i’ve said it before
i think the actual voting will not be reflective in the polling

Agreed. A lot of these angry white men are literally just using this guy to vent or see illusory ills yelled about.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:17:13am

re: #251 dangerman

i think theres more
a segment arent telling pollsters anything - for different reasons than the past
a segment has to maintain the public face of R but wont vote for him
a segment is working out how to live with voting for D because it’s more effective than third party or none of the above

in the privacy of the voting booth trump will get less and clinton will get more votes than the polls will have reported

it’s a gut feeling
i have no support for this - and i’m explaining it poorly

I think you’re right about that.

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fern01  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:17:35am

re: #238 Lidane

Meanwhile, Fox News is running with BENGHAZI!!! in their Hillary interview:

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And is anyone surprised about that?

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Jenner7  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:18:48am

So, Lizards, catch me up on Trump. Still a horrible human being?

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:19:14am

re: #238 Lidane

Meanwhile, Fox News is running with BENGHAZI!!! in their Hillary interview:

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one time soon she’s just gonna say “really? you want to go back there for the 99th time? you think any answer’s gonna be different this time? there’s nothing else you want to talk about?”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:19:14am

re: #256 Jenner7

So, Lizards, catch me up on Trump. Still a horrible human being?

Yep, Sky still blue, and General Franco still dead.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:19:22am

Trapped in his own pathology.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:20:05am

re: #256 Jenner7

So, Lizards, catch me up on Trump. Still a horrible human being?

i read he was a reformed christian

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Jenner7  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:20:54am

And guys, Russia won’t go into Ukraine. Trump toldz me. It’s all good. Hail President Trump!

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:22:08am

GOP consultant Mackowiak having another stopped clock moment:

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:22:26am

BENGHAZI!! didn’t work for Romney, and the blood was still wet. Fortunately the GOP isn’t capable of running away from a losing tactic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:25:18am

re: #197 dangerman

always felt i had pretty good karma
didnt know they kept actual score

just click on your avatar, it shows your current standing

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:25:24am

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:26:10am

re: #256 Jenner7

So, Lizards, catch me up on Trump. Still a horrible human being?

Surprisingly, he has made the pivot. Gave almost his entire fortune to worthy charities, and pledged to work ceaselessly for world peace, tolerance and love. Naw, he’s still a racist dick!

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:26:59am

The pathology appears to be contagious.

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:28:00am

What doesn’t belong and why?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:28:34am

re: #267 jaunte

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The pathology appears to be contagious.

great gambit, the argument over whether it was a letter or a phone call will overshadow the story of him ducking the debates…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:28:39am

re: #262 Lidane

GOP consultant Mackowiak having another stopped clock moment:

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Fuck you Nolte.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:29:54am

re: #268 Skip Intro

What doesn’t belong and why?

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creepy hand under the kid?

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:31:10am

Deputy editor of the WSJ op-ed section:

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:31:24am

re: #271 dangerman

creepy hand under the kid?

Yeah, WTF is that? Maybe the kid’s leg, but it really does look like a hand.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:31:38am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

At the end of that clip the interviewer is beginning to make the point that the debate schedule has been known for a year.

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No Depression  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:32:08am

re: #268 Skip Intro

What doesn’t belong and why?

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That decor is so gaudy that it’s seriously making me nauseous. I would not want to live in a place like that.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:32:14am

not sure it means anything

huffpost has had the same unchanged headline story for 24 hours
“Trump Hits New Low. Smears Gold Star Mother”

cnn.com has had the Khans as their headline for about a day as well, though with more than one story

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:33:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:33:28am

Trump keeps on digging.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:34:18am

re: #277 JasonA

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ran out of Bailey’s?

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:34:31am

re: #268 Skip Intro

I just noticed today that all the toy cars in this photoset are either stretch limos or the kind of classic cars a child wouldn’t instinctively be drawn to.

It’s very weird.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:35:14am

re: #275 No Depression

That decor is so gaudy that it’s seriously making me nauseous. I would not want to live in a place like that.

Yeah, seriously. Crass and vulgar. I like this style, but your mileage may vary:

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:35:55am

re: #281 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, seriously. Crass and vulgar. I like this style, but your mileage may vary:

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Needs a bigger tv.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:37:07am

re: #280 Lidane

I just noticed today that all the toy cars in this photoset are either stretch limos or the kind of classic cars a child wouldn’t instinctively be drawn to.

It’s very weird.

“Here. Like these.”

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:37:19am

The pointless things this guy lies about…

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:38:22am

re: #268 Skip Intro

What doesn’t belong and why?

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I look at this picture and have to wonder if he sleeps in that damn suit.

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sagehen  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:38:24am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

I want Trump to derail starting around the middle of September and continuing into the first and second weeks of October.

The absolute panic of the GOP at that point should be quite breathtaking to behold. I would imagine the only plan open to them in such a possibility would be to do their damnedest to limit the damage downticket.

It’s too late for that. Every Senator or Governor or Congressman who’s said on-camera that he endorses the Republican nominee (even if he didn’t say his name)… that’s going to be in his opponent’s advertising.

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Mattand  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:38:32am

re: #251 dangerman

i think theres more
a segment arent telling pollsters anything - for different reasons than the past
a segment has to maintain the public face of R but wont vote for him
a segment is working out how to live with voting for D because it’s more effective than third party or none of the above

in the privacy of the voting booth trump will get less and clinton will get more votes than the polls will have reported

it’s a gut feeling
i have no support for this - and i’m explaining it poorly

No, I think you summed it with the bolded statement. I just don’t have faith in the collective wisdom of the American voting public like you do.

I’m surrounded by equal parts “Hillary is not the anti-Christ”; “They’re both the same”; and “The bigot alleged-billionaire is just like me!” If I lived in a US that supposedly valued the ideals its citizens claim to be willing to die for, Clinton would be curb stomping Trump in the polls.

I live in a country that voted in Bush for a second term, despite the obvious. Shit, I live in a fucking state that voted in Christie for a second term, and now everyone is shocked – SHOCKED – the Republican they elected is acting like a Republican.

Look at Kentucky: the most successful ACA rollout of all 50 states, and a majority voted in a GOP governor who fucking promised to take away health care from people. Probably the same idiots who voted for him.

I’m a worry wart by nature, but with Trump going full-on Weimar Republic and winning with it? I’ve seen American “wisdom” in action before. To say it’s overrated is a gross understatement.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:38:46am

re: #282 JasonA

Needs a bigger tv.

Heh.

LOW ENERGY DESIGN! SAD!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:39:26am

re: #285 JasonA

I look at this picture and have to wonder if he sleeps in that damn suit.

People who take amphetamines don’t sleep.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:39:48am

re: #286 sagehen

It’s too late for that. Every Senator or Governor or Congressman who’s said on-camera that he endorses the Republican nominee (even if he didn’t say his name)… that’s going to be in his opponent’s advertising.

True that.

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b_sharp  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:40:40am

re: #268 Skip Intro

What doesn’t belong and why?

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Whose hand is that by the kid’s side?

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:41:05am

PPP via PoliticaWire.com

“Against that set of findings it’s simply not very likely that many Trump voters will be moving into the Clinton column and that’s why although she’s certainly the favorite the chances of her winning adouble digit victory are pretty minimal.”

as i said about an hour ago, i think this is dead wrong
i think a lot of people maintaining a public R face will not vote for him in private

because “character is how you behave when no one’s looking”
and no one, not even your husband or party will know (in most cases)

as i keep saying, i have no support for this except my feeling that many “people” are in fact “human”

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:41:21am

re: #277 JasonA

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By now Reince has to be like Herbert Lom’s character in the Pink Panther series.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:41:25am

Oooo. Mystery. Intrigue.

The Phantom Platform Change.

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Jenner7  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:42:49am

“Oh my god, what do I say, what do I say!?!? Just say words, Donald, just say words!”

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:43:32am

Manafort’s moral compass is probably in a box on a dusty shelf in the attic of his childhood home.

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b_sharp  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:43:32am

How do people deal with long term chronic pain? I’ve been in pain for about 6wks & I’ve had more than enough. I just want it to stop.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:44:31am

re: #293 Barefoot Grin

By now Reince has to be like Herbert Lom’s character in the Pink Panther series.

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Herbert Lom was brilliant. Czechs love him - he was one of their own.

en.wikipedia.org

Charles Dreyfus makes Clouseau’s funeral speech.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:44:44am

re: #296 Barefoot Grin

Manafort’s moral compass is probably in a box on a dusty shelf in the attic of his childhood home.

and came from a box of Cheerios

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sagehen  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:45:16am

re: #232 Barefoot Grin

I know Bloomberg doesn’t actually walk the streets of NYC, but if by chance he’s on 5th Ave. he might want to keep an eye out for a short-fingered vulgarian with a gun testing his theory of immovable support.

Yes he does. And he rides the subway.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:46:19am
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stpaulbear  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:48:43am

re: #213 mmmirele

Interestingly, Gershom Gorenberg over at The American Prospect thinks Bibi wants to finish up a deal on US aid with Obama quickly because he doesn’t know how it would work out under a Trump administration:

Why Netanyahu Suddenly Wants a Deal on U.S. Aid

prospect.org

Obama should just kind of in passing tell Netanyahu that he needs to get the supreme court vacancy taken care of before he has time to work on US aid for Israel.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:49:21am

re: #297 b_sharp

How do people deal with long term chronic pain? I’ve been in pain for about 6wks & I’ve had more than enough. I just want it to stop.

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Jenner7  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:51:03am

re: #297 b_sharp

My mom says Morphine and reality: She just lives with it. :(

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:51:05am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:53:17am

re: #302 stpaulbear

Obama should just kind of in passing tell Netanyahu that he needs to get the supreme court vacancy taken care of before he has time to work on US aid for Israel.

Obama’s probably had it with Bibi’s shit.

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calochortus  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:53:52am

re: #297 b_sharp

How do people deal with long term chronic pain? I’ve been in pain for about 6wks & I’ve had more than enough. I just want it to stop.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:53:58am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:54:46am

re: #308 goddamnedfrank

Priebus knows that in a debate, Trump’s gonna get his ass handed to him.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:55:04am

*facepalm*

The debate schedule was set last year. The NFL schedule was set in April.

This is all just a bunch of bullshit to find an excuse for Trump to skip the presidential debates.

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Jenner7  Jul 31, 2016 • 8:55:34am

re: #308 goddamnedfrank

Just hand your balls to Trump already. Jeebus.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:00:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:03:43am

re: #251 dangerman

in the privacy of the voting booth trump will get less and clinton will get more votes than the polls will have reported

A lot of Republicans feel compelled to support their party and candidates publicly, but a lot of them must have come to realize that a Trump presidency would damage the GOP brand for a long time, as he would most certainly turn out to be one of the WORST PRESIDENTS EVER, far surpassing Nixon, Herbert Hoover, or Andrew Jackson.

Better to just let this election go to the Democrats and then retire behind a wall of Hillary bashing until the next midterms, when they will finally start to recover.

And they will take that consideration into the voting booth.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:04:14am

re: #113 darthstar

You deserve people like Jan Brewer and John McCain, Arizona…

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That’s better than it was a week ago, IIRC.

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b_sharp  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:05:10am

re: #303 The Vicious Babushka

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:05:32am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Trump keeps on digging.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:05:47am

Man, Trump really goes full metal homina homina trying to distance himself from his own statements about what great buddies he and Putin are.

Lyin’ Donald.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:06:07am

re: #314 MsJ

That’s better than it was a week ago, IIRC.

Eesh. Still scary.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:08:12am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:09:46am
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BigPapa  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:10:48am

And we thought The Palin-Couric Incident was an eye opener. Trump has them daily.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:13:03am

re: #320 The Vicious Babushka

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Gee haven’t we been told that these suppression efforts aren’t racially intended at all but just to prevent fraud? That was a good one.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:13:48am

re: #310 Lidane

*facepalm*

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The debate schedule was set last year. The NFL schedule was set in April.

This is all just a bunch of bullshit to find an excuse for Trump to skip the presidential debates.

Maybe Clinton could debate Clint Eastwood’s empty chair.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:14:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:14:52am

re: #321 SoundGuy 2016

And we thought The Palin-Couric Incident was an eye opener. Trump has them daily.

He might point out that while the Founding Fathers had a lot to say about the role of government in American society and its economy. the Founding Mothers were conspicuously silent on the matter.

Maybe they were not allowed to speak?

It would be unpatriotic not to speculate.

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:16:14am

My dad wants a fascist to be President. I will never get over it. Don’t want to talk to him anymore.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:16:25am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

Maybe Clinton could debate Clint Eastwood’s empty chair.

Better yet, just turn the debates that Trump skips into townhalls where Hillary does uninterrupted live Q&A sessions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:17:33am

re: #327 Lidane

Better yet, just turn the debates that Trump skips into townhalls where Hillary does uninterrupted live Q&A sessions.

DO not let him back down from the debates without humiliating him for it…

You know that he already purchased tickets to those NFL games and will be seen in the VIP booths there…

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:17:43am

re: #321 SoundGuy 2016

And we thought The Palin-Couric Incident was an eye opener. Trump has them daily.

The interesting thing about all of these issues - the Khan debacle, his relationship with Putin, the RNC platform - comes down to a struggle between the campaign’s need to dial this all back and attempt to look at least relatively sane vs. Trump’s primal urge to brag and double down.

Manafort and Preibus can try all the damage control they want. I’m seeing them trying to patch a dam, with Trump walking behind them smashing any small repairs they may be able to make.

They cannot play both sides on this shit. And unfortunately for them, the compulsive loudmouth is the guy who gets the facetime on cable news.

They’re fooked.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:18:02am
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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:19:19am

Well, the Russians certainly seem to approve of Trump’s views on Crimea.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:20:09am

re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

DO not let him back down from the debates without humiliating him for it…

You know that he already purchased tickets to those NFL games and will be seen in the VIP booths there…

If he backs out of any or all of the debates, the networks should give him a total media blackout in response.

They won’t, but they should.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:20:33am

re: #267 jaunte

[Trump’s comms director pushed on his false claim NFL sent him a “letter” about the debates, says it was a phone call]

The pathology appears to be contagious.

The NFL doesn’t operate that way.

They already have their TV broadcast rights money.

The NFL only provides the product.

All NFL game broadcast production costs are absorbed by the network.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:21:20am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

I’ve said previously that the GOP will ultimately devolve into a white nationalist/white supremacist political party, with its core constituency to be found in the aging and shrinking white populations of the Deep South and parts of the West (Eastern OR, Eastern WA, Idaho, etc).

Trump confirms this hypothesis, IMO.

In the abstract, this process will be fascinating to watch. If the GOP officially splinters, there are several strains of attitude around which fault lines could form:

1. Economic Conservatives - i.e. “true” or “business” conservatives, who believe in less government and regulation.
2. Evangelicals - The worst of which are looking to form American Hezbollah.
3. Racists - Drumpfkins, neo-Confederates, race realists, Twitter shit-apes, general haters.
4. Paranoiacs - Broadly the gun-toting preppers awaiting war with The Nigra or the UN, whichever comes fer their preshus gunz first.

There’s enough overlap between 2, 3, and 4, that I could easily see an “American Heritage” party coalescing around secession, if Hillary wins. That party might in turn splinter along religious vs. non-religious lines if the God Squad tries to over-reach early on.

Group 1, well… They don’t even know what to do right now, why would they figure it out by spring ‘17? Although, the moneybags conservatives may be waiting until after the election before cleaning house. If Drumpf crashes and takes 2, 3, and 4 with them, the old-school cash people will want to reinvest elsewhere.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:21:28am

A lie? From the Trump campaign? I am simply beside myself.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:22:19am

re: #292 dangerman

PPP via PoliticaWire.com

“Against that set of findings it’s simply not very likely that many Trump voters will be moving into the Clinton column and that’s why although she’s certainly the favorite the chances of her winning adouble digit victory are pretty minimal.”

as i said about an hour ago, i think this is dead wrong
i think a lot of people maintaining a public R face will not vote for him in private

because “character is how you behave when no one’s looking”
and no one, not even your husband or party will know (in most cases)

as i keep saying, i have no support for this except my feeling that many “people” are in fact “human”

I’m afraid I think you’re completely wrong. People know Trump is a disgrace. Other than overt white supremacists, average Americans can’t name a single positive reason to vote for him. But they also know, without a doubt in their mind, that they hate - hate hate hate hate hate - Hillary Clinton. They’ve hated her for decades. They’ve hated her without reason, cause, or justification. They just know they hate her the same way they know they breathe.

They will find whatever excuse they can justify to themselves to vote against her. They will vote Trump. They will vote Trump, because reinforcing one’s preconceived notions is, more than anything else, the defining characteristic of humans. They will refrain from admitting it in public because they know how foolish they will sound, but in the privacy of a voting booth, they will justify it to themselves.

Fortunately, the electoral college is weighed against him. Though I believe he will outperform his polling, it would have to happen in significant numbers in three to four particular states for him to win. Here in Ohio, I make it my goal to convince just one person a day. Just one person a day for the next hundred days counts for thousands of votes across America as a whole, because only a few states really count.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:22:57am

Well holy crap.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:25:44am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:25:55am

Here’s what Donald Trump says about marriage==>

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:26:32am

re: #337 JasonA

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A Cranky One  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:29:10am

re: #35 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i just feel sorry for melania, caught up in her husband’s embarassing circus of a campaign

I’m actually worried about Melania. Didn’t she skip the final night of the RNC convention when The Conald did his acceptance speech? Has she been seen recently?

I’m wondering if she’s out of sight to hide bruises? I can easily picture Trump as a domestic abuser.

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retired cynic  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:29:27am

re: #304 Jenner7

My mom says Morphine and reality: She just lives with it. :(

Then I’d like to know how you get a doctor, in this day and age, to actually prescribe a functional painkiller. In my case, that means an opiate, and they just won’t. They just say, ‘be strong.’

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:30:23am

Oh, those sneaky Dems.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:31:22am

re: #341 A Cranky One

I’m actually worried about Melania. Didn’t she skip the final night of the RNC convention when The Conald did his acceptance speech? Has she been seen recently?

I’m wondering if she’s out of sight to hide bruises? I can easily picture Trump as a domestic abuser.

His first wife, Ivana testified that he ripped chunks of hair out of her scalp and then raped her.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:32:28am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:32:45am

re: #340 jaunte

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WOW

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:33:07am

re: #341 A Cranky One

I’m actually worried about Melania. Didn’t she skip the final night of the RNC convention when The Conald did his acceptance speech? Has she been seen recently?

I’m wondering if she’s out of sight to hide bruises? I can easily picture Trump as a domestic abuser.

I think she was there, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Trump ship her back to her father after the election and replace her with a younger model. Even Ivanka has gotten too old for Trump.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:34:08am

re: #338 Lidane

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Mr. Khan is clearly not a man who will be bullied. Like I said earlier, Trump picked a fight with the wrong family.

Trump is going to wind up saying something really stupid. Like Extinction Level Event stupid. He will not be able to leave this alone.

Mr. Khan is trolling the crap out of Trump. And Trump is too stupid to just STFU about it.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:34:13am

re: #346 Stanley Sea

LOTS of atmospheric moisture getting dumped is bad news.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:34:56am

re: #349 jaunte

LOTS of atmospheric moisture getting dumped is bad news.

I can’t believe that girl made it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:35:07am

re: #348 makeitstop

Mr. Khan is clearly not a man who will be bullied. Like I said earlier, Trump picked a fight with the wrong family.

Trump is going to wind up saying something really stupid. Like Extinction Level Event stupid. He will not be able to leave this alone.

Mr. Khan is trolling the crap out of Trump. And Trump is too stupid to just STFU about it.

Trump’s thin skin will be his undoing.

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:35:47am

We could sure use some of it. Our current Big Sur fire has burned 56 square miles and is only 15% contained.

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:35:52am

re: #340 jaunte

This is more compelling than anything I’ve seen in quite some time. Thank God they got her out. I’m crying. But then that’s nothing new lately.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:35:52am
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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:35:56am

re: #351 Dr Lizardo

It’s unreal how many of his supporters just seem to harden their support every time he gets worse.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:36:19am

re: #340 jaunte

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That was one brave guy. he could easily have been swept away and drowned.

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:36:55am

re: #351 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s thin skin will be his undoing.

The GOP can’t risk letting him debate Hillary. They’ll put him back of Fox where’s it’s always safe.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:36:58am

re: #338 Lidane

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Freeper lacks empathy, but makes it up in emphasis:

To:
I need to get this out because i was Wrong last night.
Some piece of ### muslim lawyer waves the constitution while his subservient dog wife stands there and it’s on the front of every mother ####ing paper in the world?!?!
I was originally upset that Trump gave them ammunition, but you know what, #### the father, #### the mother, #### hillary and obama and holder and ryan and romney and bezos and cuban and lynch and jarrett and Kaine and bloomberg and every other mother ####ing piece of #### that aligns themselves with that fat disgusting sadistic, wife a rapist traitor, stinking, filthy pig of a witch.
#### em all.

And, God forbid we lose this election, which we wont, then we’ll win the country back the old fashioned way. You know what Silicon Valley and DNC and GOPe, #### you.
If you do win, You’ll wish you had lost the election because the alternative might be a #### of a lot worse than you could have ever imagined.

NOW I can go to sleep.

24 posted on 7/31/2016, 9:48:16 AM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:37:02am

re: #356 Big Beautiful Door

Imagine Trump in that situation.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:37:28am

re: #342 retired cynic

Then I’d like to know how you get a doctor, in this day and age, to actually prescribe a functional painkiller. In my case, that means an opiate, and they just won’t. They just say, ‘be strong.’

Depending on what state you live in, you might want to try marijuana.

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A Cranky One  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:39:08am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

His first wife, Ivana testified that he ripped chunks of hair out of her scalp and then raped her.

Not surprising from what I’ve seen of Trump. I can picture him furious after the controversy about Melania’s speech and having a melt-down with Melania as the easy and vulnerable target.

As I said, I’m worried about her.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:39:12am
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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:39:35am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:40:50am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

Freeper lacks empathy, but makes it up in emphasis:

Kaine got capitalization. That’s something.

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retired cynic  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:41:09am

re: #355 jaunte

It’s unreal how many of his supporters just seem to harden their support every time he gets worse.

That’s the frog in the pot of water thing. Just keep raising the heat.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:41:30am

re: #361 A Cranky One

Not surprising from what I’ve seen of Trump. I can picture him furious after the controversy about Melania’s speech and having a melt-down with Melania as the easy and vulnerable target.

As I said, I’m worried about her.

He was actually happy about all the publicity it generated, as though he didn’t understand that the Convention would’ve generated plenty of positive publicity if not for the scandal.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:42:23am

So this turdbutton just showed up in my mentions==>

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:42:29am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

There was once a time the type of comments that are now standard fare on FR would have been pulled by a mod. It used to be Stormfront lite over there, but not any more.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:42:57am

re: #366 Big Beautiful Door

He was actually happy about all the publicity it generated, as though he didn’t understand that the Convention would’ve generated plenty of positive publicity if not for the scandal.

That’s why I’m wondering if he released the photos of her to the Post.

She’s probably miserable.

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retired cynic  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:43:17am

re: #360 Big Beautiful Door

Depending on what state you live in, you might want to try marijuana.

We have medical marijuana in Illinois now, but it is very restricted, and for only a few medical issues. Not my spinal issues. I have a trip to Colorado coming up, and I want to try it!

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bratwurst  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:44:00am

A bootlicker has spoken:

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:44:09am

Dead & Company played the Shoreline last night.
I was offered tickets.
I turned them down.
Second set opened with Dark Star > St. Stephen > Dark Star > Terrapin Station > Eyes of the World > Not Fade Away.
I should have gone. Those are the songs I always loved to see live, and they were strung together with a bow.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:44:09am

Tough guy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:44:15am

re: #369 Stanley Sea

That’s why I’m wondering if he released the photos of her to the Post.

She’s probably miserable.

I would not be surprised if he did.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:44:46am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

And, God forbid we lose this election, which we wont, then we’ll win the country back the old fashioned way.

Another sovcit suicide-by-cop in the making.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:45:37am

re: #371 bratwurst

I’m waiting for the Commission on Presidential Debates to say that it’s too late to change dates and venues and that objections should have been raised months ago.

That’ll be a hoot.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:46:04am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

Freeper lacks empathy, but makes it up in emphasis:

Racism. Sexism. Anti-elitism. Trifecta!

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:46:23am

re: #369 Stanley Sea

That’s why I’m wondering if he released the photos of her to the Post.

She’s probably miserable.

If he’s upset about them being published he’s being awfully quiet about it. Why not publish nude pics of his son’s mother? I’m sure Reagan would have done the same thing.

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nines09  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:46:32am

Ellicottt City via Baltimore Sun Photos

Click on first picture and you will get more photos. Unbelievable.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:46:42am

re: #375 jaunte

Another sovcit suicide-by-cop in the making.

Most of them are just blowhards, but it only takes one to kill a bunch of people.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:47:10am

re: #373 JasonA

Meanings of each of these.

2-S

Registrant deferred because of collegiate study. Deferment lasted either until graduation or until the registrant reached the age of 24. Exemption was discontinued in December 1971.

It previously also deferred graduate students studying medicine, dentistry, veterinary medicine, osteopathy and optometry, and graduate students in their fifth year of continuous study toward a doctoral degree.[87] The exemption for graduate and doctoral students was discontinued in 1967.

1-Y

Registrant available for military service, but qualified only in case of war or national emergency. Usually given to registrants with medical conditions that were limiting but not disabling (examples: high blood pressure, mild muscular or skeletal injuries or disorders, skin disorders, severe allergies, etc.). It was created in 1962. It was discontinued in December 1971 and its members were reclassified as Class 4-F.

4-F

Registrant not acceptable for military service. To be eligible for Class 4-F, a registrant must have been found not qualified for service in the Armed Forces by a Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) under the established physical, mental, or moral standards. The standards of physical fitness that would be used in a future draft would come from AR 40-501.

I bolded 4-F, because that is what I would fall into, with the Autism, Major Depressive Disorder, and Generalized Anxiety Disorder.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:49:27am

re: #379 nines09

Ellicottt City via Baltimore Sun Photos

Click on first picture and you will get more photos. Unbelievable.

Oboy.

trbimg.com

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Jenner7  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:50:03am

re: #342 retired cynic

She has to go to the doctor every month to get refills. She was diagnosed over 10 years ago. Believe me, many doctors told her to “get over it”. It took her 5 years to get approved for disability. It’s not been an easy road for my Mom. It will never be easy. She’s currently sleeping in a chair, because it hurts too much to sleep in a bed.

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sagehen  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:50:23am

re: #325 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He might point out that while the Founding Fathers had a lot to say about the role of government in American society and its economy. the Founding Mothers were conspicuously silent on the matter.

Maybe they were not allowed to speak?

Except Abigail Adams. She had plenty to say.

womenshistory.about.com

brainyquote.com

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:51:41am

re: #370 retired cynic

We have medical marijuana in Illinois now, but it is very restricted, and for only a few medical issues. Not my spinal issues. I have a trip to Colorado coming up, and I want to try it!

See number 5

leafly.com

Kush is stony stuff. My suggestion would be to start with something more gentle like a Sativa. But I’m not a doctor. Just someone who use

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:53:28am

re: #385 darthstar

See number 5

leafly.com

Kush is stony stuff. My suggestion would be to start with something more gentle like a Sativa. But I’m not a doctor. Just someone who use

who used to be able to type without clicking “Post It” - I’m just someone who used to smoke a lot of pot and enjoyed the different strains. I’m waiting for it to be recreationally legal in California before taking it up again. A nice gentle sativa high is quite pleasant after work…better for my belly than a couple of Manhattans too, I’m sure.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:53:33am

*facepalm*

You know what? Fuck it. Let Trump skip all of the debates and give the airtime to Hillary for uninterrupted live town halls.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:55:42am

Let them complain that the debates are rigged. If Trump doesn’t want to debate, he doesn’t have to. Hillary could have a debate with one of the other candidates - like Johnson…who will suck conservative votes up like a sponge if people see him as a viable alternative to Trump.

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nines09  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:57:13am

re: #370 retired cynic

We have medical marijuana in Illinois now, but it is very restricted, and for only a few medical issues. Not my spinal issues. I have a trip to Colorado coming up, and I want to try it!

You can go into recreational shops and the staff can help you with your choice. Just say you would like something for pain, or anxiety and they can steer you. I would suggest vaping if you do not smoke. Easier and more gentle and you just take a hit with no muss or fuss when you want. I walked in and said I wanted a chatty airy, and a body heavy and got both. Just go someplace where you can relax and be with a friend or two and just enjoy it.

Your map to the future.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:57:42am

re: #388 darthstar

Let them complain that the debates are rigged. If Trump doesn’t want to debate, he doesn’t have to. Hillary could have a debate with one of the other candidates - like Johnson…who will suck conservative votes up like a sponge if people see him as a viable alternative to Trump.

If Johnson meets the threshold, sure. Let him in.

If not, then make the debates town halls instead.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 9:58:31am

Or is it possible that nude photos that appeared in a magazine 20 years ago aren’t that hard to find?

Jesus, this is stupid. Melania and a very healthy body in 1996. Good for her.

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ibob  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:00:34am

re: #171 Lidane

And it just keeps going:

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Ugh. That is my senator. Again, I am so proud of my state.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:00:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:02:18am

heh

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sagehen  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:02:31am

re: #366 Big Beautiful Door

He was actually happy about all the publicity it generated, as though he didn’t understand that the Convention would’ve generated plenty of positive publicity if not for the scandal.

“You know, it really doesn`t matter what (the media) write as long as you`ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”
a real true quote from Donald Trump

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:02:33am

re: #390 Lidane

If Johnson meets the threshold, sure. Let him in.

If not, then make the debates town halls instead.

I hate “the threshold” - we should allow the top 4 parties to debate at the first debate. The second debate can be based on some arbitrary ‘threshold’ set to protect the sacred two party system.

I don’t want to be forced to choose between Ted Cruz and Alan Grayson in 2020 or 2024 because we still can’t get our Primary shit together.

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A Cranky One  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:03:57am

re: #376 Lidane

I’m waiting for the Commission on Presidential Debates to say that it’s too late to change dates and venues and that objections should have been raised months ago.

That’ll be a hoot.

I think Trump is depending on it. He made it through the primaries because the other candidates were afraid that attacks on Trump would cost them support with the R base. It seems to finally be sinking in that in the general it’s a whole different game. And that Hillary is not going to shy away from hitting him hard.

He is, after all, now whining about the “unfair” attacks and “lies” about him. And the media has finally realized that negative stories about Trump don’t hurt them. Trump, idiot that he is, must finally be aware of the damage the campaign is doing to his brand, a primary source of income, and also that his bullying and attacks on the media are rapidly becoming ineffective.

I was of the opinion that he’d do one debate and then bail on the others after getting curb-stomped. Now I’m starting to believe he’ll avoid the debates completely, calculating that his obvious cowardice will be less damaging that a poor debate performance against Hillary. Hence the current complaints about the scheduling; he’s hunting for an excuse to avoid a face-to-face confrontation with Hillary.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:05:14am

Sockpuppet alert:

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:06:28am

re: #396 darthstar

Johnson is only going to be on 36 ballots nationwide. Stein on 23. There’s no reason to automatically include them in national debates without that threshold simply because there will be large swaths of the country who won’t be able to vote for them.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:07:03am

re: #395 sagehen

“You know, it really doesn`t matter what (the media) write as long as you`ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”
a real true quote from Donald Trump

How enlightened.

*headdesk*

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:10:16am

re: #399 Lidane

Johnson is only going to be on 36 ballots nationwide. Stein on 23. There’s no reason to automatically include them in national debates without that threshold simply because there will be large swaths of the country who won’t be able to vote for them.

Exactly.

The Debate Commission should hold fast to all of their rules and tell Trump to deal with it.

No threshold, no debate. Period.

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darthstar  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:10:27am

This morning’s beach theme: Be the pelican.

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sagehen  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:10:55am

re: #399 Lidane

Johnson is only going to be on 36 ballots nationwide. Stein on 23. There’s no reason to automatically include them in national debates without that threshold simply because there will be large swaths of the country who won’t be able to vote for them.

no no no, Johnson/Weld is on the ballot in all 50 states.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:12:27am

re: #403 sagehen

no no no, Johnson/Weld is on the ballot in all 50 states.

Not according to the Libertarian party website. They only mention 36 states and that they’re in the process in the other 14:

lp.org

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bratwurst  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:17:33am

Somehow the idea of giving a dangerously crazy person like Dr. Jill Stein national TV time on the basis of a tiny level of support doesn’t…um…seem like the most intelligent way to address what ails our primary system.

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retired cynic  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:21:25am

re: #383 Jenner7

She has to go to the doctor every month to get refills. She was diagnosed over 10 years ago. Believe me, many doctors told her to “get over it”. It took her 5 years to get approved for disability. It’s not been an easy road for my Mom. It will never be easy. She’s currently sleeping in a chair, because it hurts too much to sleep in a bed.

I’m not that bad, thank goodness.I am so sorry for her!

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:22:41am
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No Depression  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:23:15am

re: #405 bratwurst

Somehow the idea of giving a dangerously crazy person like Dr. Jill Stein national TV time on the basis of a tiny level of support doesn’t…um…seem like the most intelligent way to address what ails our primary system.

UR CAUSING NEOFASCISM BY SUPPORTING TEH 2 PARTY SYSTEM, YOU NEOLIBERAL SHILL!!1!1!!!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:23:19am

LOLWUT

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:25:24am

re: #403 sagehen

no no no, Johnson/Weld is on the ballot in all 50 states.

So the GOP plan now is to have Trump skip the debates and have Hillary debate Johnson, hoping that he’ll siphon votes away from her?

I hope the DNC is smart enough to see through this and say “Hell no”.

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KingKenrod  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:27:57am

re: #407 Lidane

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Sad that CPD even responded to Trump’s bullshit. More than he deserves.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:28:21am

re: #410 Skip Intro

So the GOP plan now is to have Trump skip the debates and have Hillary debate Johnson, hoping that he’ll siphon votes away from her?

I hope the DNC is smart enough to see through this and say “Hell no”.

I don’t think the commission on debates is going to budge.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:29:34am

re: #411 KingKenrod

Sad that CPD even responded to Trump’s bullshit. More than he deserves.

True, but it tells the RNC that the protest is useless. They’re not going to budge.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:30:32am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

Priebus knows that in a debate, Trump’s gonna get his ass handed to him.

By a girl.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:31:11am

re: #412 makeitstop

I don’t think the commission on debates is going to budge.

Someone in the GOP needs to go all Don Corleone on Trump while he’s sitting there going, “What can I do? What can I do?”

THE GODFATHER - You can act like a Man!

Fun fact: Brando improvised that scene - Robert Duvall’s bemused reaction is completely genuine.

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Lidane  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:31:23am

re: #412 makeitstop

I don’t think the commission on debates is going to budge.

They’re not. They’ve had debates on the same night as NFL games before and have never rescheduled.

And let’s be honest. The only reason this is an issue at all is because Trump is a pathetically uninformed boob who is going to get destroyed by Hillary. If the Republicans were running anyone else, we wouldn’t be talking about the debate schedule.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:34:56am
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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:37:01am
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:37:14am
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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:38:40am

re: #417 JasonA

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Kevin Williamson of the Nation Review, btw.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:43:09am

“…ultimately, Trump’s speech is designed to throw off darkness. It’s designed to be an engine of hate.

That may seem like a bad strategy. But bad is a strategy. The villain gets to chew the wallpaper and twist his mustache. The villain gets to prance and shake his fist and thunder. He gets to cancel Christmas. He gets the frickin’ sharks with laser beams.

The villain is almost always more interesting—even more charismatic—than the hero plodding her stolid, honorable path. The villain is unconstrained. The villain can say anything.

And there are always those who gather around the villain to bask in the dark light. You don’t have to grow minions in a lab. They come on their own.”

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:43:39am

Profiles in Courage.

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A Cranky One  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:43:59am

OT:

Got to see all my kids and grandkids yesterday. Always feels great to see them together, brings back lots of memories.

My daughter-in-law, who teaches English, was wearing this t-shirt:

And she was.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:48:31am

The GOP is officially dead to me. Over a span of 24 hours, Trump attacked grieving parents of a war hero and called a retired 4 star General a “failure”. Not one single leader in the GOP denounced this rhetoric. The GOP is dead to me. They are accomplices to this tragedy.

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nines09  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:52:00am

re: #424 Dr. Matt

The GOP is officially dead to me. Over a span of 24 hours, Trump attacked grieving parents of a war hero and called a retired 4 star General a “failure”. Not one single leader in the GOP denounced this rhetoric. The GOP is dead to me. They are accomplices to this tragedy.

They died quite a while back. It’s just the stench that has gotten to you.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:53:46am

re: #425 nines09

They died quite a while back. It’s just the stench that has gotten to you.

I guess I was too optimistic in hoping for a course direction.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:54:16am

re: #424 Dr. Matt

The GOP is officially dead to me. Over a span of 24 hours, Trump attacked grieving parents of a war hero and called a retired 4 star General a “failure”. Not one single leader in the GOP denounced this rhetoric. The GOP is dead to me. They are accomplices to this tragedy.

The GOP is trapped: If they denounce Trump’s remarks, it will ignite a full-scale civil war within the party. What can they do? Rescind the nomination? It would be political suicide for the GOP, and they know it.

They fucked themselves. Now they’re gonna have to live with the consequences.

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EPR-radar  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:55:16am

re: #424 Dr. Matt

The GOP is officially dead to me. Over a span of 24 hours, Trump attacked grieving parents of a war hero and called a retired 4 star General a “failure”. Not one single leader in the GOP denounced this rhetoric. The GOP is dead to me. They are accomplices to this tragedy.

I still think WindUpBird said it best: “the GOP is shit.”

It really is that simple.

GOP elected officials are shit.

GOP candidates are shit.

GOP policy proposals are shit.

GOP propaganda is shit.

GOP apologists and pundits are shit.

GOP voters are shit.

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MsJ  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:55:39am

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

So this turdbutton just showed up in my mentions==>

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So they’re all saying the Benghazi mom is a RNC token/plant/operative because she was devastated over the loss of her child.

No dem is discounting her loss.

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nines09  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:57:10am

re: #426 Dr. Matt

The only way they change is by total and absolute loss of power. Only then. I’m almost afraid to think comes AFTER Trump. Because up to this point they have doubled down on every single thing. Trump wasn’t (fill in blank) enough.

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nines09  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:57:43am

Republican chairman Priebus on CBS: “we’re not going to agree with anything that our nominee Glorious Leader doesn’t agree with”

Fixed.

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 10:57:57am

re: #412 makeitstop

I don’t think the commission on debates is going to budge.

Is Johnson in the debates?

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:05:54am
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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:06:17am
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retired cynic  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:09:21am

I’m catching up with Charlie Pierce’s take on the DNC, because I was too busy watching and listening to it. It is always good to catch up with Charlie Pierce!

esquire.com

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:10:35am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:11:57am

I’m guessing here, but I bet THIS still won’t be enough for some people.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:13:59am

re: #430 nines09

They are already working on digging up Mussolini’s corpse to run in 2020.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:15:17am
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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:16:21am
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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:18:03am
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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:18:40am

“That’s what our position is”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:19:15am

re: #440 JasonA

“Undocumented” can be scratched from that. He doesn’t even care if anyone is here legally or otherwise.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:21:16am

How much you want to bet Trump tries to get Michael Buffer to introduce him at the debates??

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:22:14am

re: #438 GlutenFreeJesus

They are already working on digging up Mussolini’s corpse to run in 2020.

And redesigning the GOP’s HQ to suit the occasion:

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Joe Bacon  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:24:30am

Just got an e-mail from a friend in England who sent, “And people still think we’re crazy for the Brexit vote??????????”

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bratwurst  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:26:04am

A great leader of men has spoken:

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No Depression  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:26:46am

Ahahaha you’re funny Jill.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:26:50am
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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:27:11am

re: #447 bratwurst

Dammit, Brat…

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Joe Bacon  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:27:39am

re: #439 JasonA

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Not only do I remember the ‘88 finagling by the Old Fart Bush camp, also remember how Atwater got Bernard Shaw to ask the “Kitty” question to torpedo Dukakis.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:28:04am

re: #447 bratwurst

Weasel words, weasel words, weasel words!

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:29:32am

I just don’t see the point of releasing this statement if you’re not mentioning Trump.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:29:33am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:30:41am

RESTING BITCH FACE

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:31:03am

Pwned.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:31:24am
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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:31:46am

Principles that vary by the minute.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:32:49am

I really think Trump has pussified the GOP. They are all so afraid of pissing him off.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:33:17am

re: #458 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Principles that vary by the minute.

More like the second

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:33:23am

re: #458 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Principles that vary by the minute.

It would really be best for them to agree with nothing then considering the, uh, fluid nature of their nominee’s positions, no?

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Jay C  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:34:39am

re: #453 JasonA

I just don’t see the point of releasing this statement if you’re not mentioning Trump.

Other than the shape of Sen. McConnell’s head, the “point” here seems to have been to address the Khan flap - by just “say[ing] something” -without ruffling any (GOP) political feelings or, really, saying much at all. Of course, it’s nothing but weasel words: but what did anyone expect - from Mitch McConnell??

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:34:57am

re: #461 JasonA

Cult of personality.

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:36:15am

I await the tRump’s demands regarding the debates. If he doesn’t demand that Johnson and Stein be included I will be amazed.

I know there are rules about who qualifies, but rules mean nothing to tRump and the GOP any more. Loading the stage would only help tRump, so that’s what he’ll demand. If he doesn’t get it, he’ll walk claiming that Hillary wants to silence free speech.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:37:25am

re: #464 Skip Intro

He will probably ask that his podium be set a little higher than Hillarys and also demand a larger stage.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:37:40am

Guys.

Guys.

Guys.

It isn’t even August yet. :(

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stpaulbear  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:38:39am

re: #458 jaunte

Principles that vary by the minute.

re: #460 Eclectic Cyborg

More like the second

By the tweet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:38:45am

re: #466 JasonA

We refuse to wait another day!

//

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Skip Intro  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:39:32am

re: #466 JasonA

Guys.

Guys.

Guys.

It isn’t even August yet. :(

It is somewhere.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:39:35am

Malarkey.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:39:54am

re: #469 Skip Intro

It is somewhere.

Yeah. In Not-America!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:41:03am

re: #465 Eclectic Cyborg

He will probably ask that his podium be set a little higher than Hillarys and also demand a larger stage.

And he will demand that the audience be seeded with his shills.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:42:07am
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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:43:08am

Too little.

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KGxvi  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:45:42am

re: #456 JasonA

Pwned.

[Embedded content]

Wait. Just wait, hold up…

The nominee of a major party for president of the United States just said someone has no right to stand up and speak about them?

Um…

You know what? I got nothing. Banging my head on the wall is not the way I want to kill brain cells on a nice day like today.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:47:30am

re: #475 KGxvi

Wait. Just wait, hold up…

The nominee of a major party for president of the United States just said someone has no right to stand up and speak about them?

Um…

You know what? I got nothing. Banging my head on the wall is not the way I want to kill brain cells on a nice day like today.

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JasonA  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:51:19am
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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:53:23am

re: #463 jaunte

Living Colour - Cult Of Personality

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 31, 2016 • 11:57:56am

being predictable is a bigly weakness in any conflict. it’s clear that the orange entity is unable to resist responding to any criticism with childish insults. he is of course at this moment engaged in a pissing contest with the parents of a war hero

perhaps enough people can pile on until the burnt sienna loudmouth’s campaign becomes nothing more than a tailspin of nonstop schoolyard retaliations

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:00:39pm

re: #474 JasonA

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Jay C  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:05:10pm

re: #477 JasonA

And this is “news”??

Pushing the point that a particular US State’s likelihood of economic prosperity is typically in direct inverse proportion to the level of Republican influence in its government ought to be one of the main themes the Clinton/Democratic campaign(s) should be promoting this year.
Though it’s doubtful, IMO, that they will. Blaming Someone Else for economic troubles is too easy a cheap campaign tactic for the GOP, and most voters tend not to think about stuff that doesn’t affect them directly (and even then, “Blame Someone Else” is often the first, knee-jerk response)

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:08:49pm

re: #481 Jay C

The GOP continually claims the nation is circling the drain and doing poorly. Lost in all that is that the GOP currently dominates in Congress, state houses, and are therefore responsible for much that they claiming is the fault of a democratic president.

Reality is that the economics are a wee bit more complicated than that. No one, not even the president, has that kind of power over the economy. But in states dominated by the GOP, we can see the disaster already underway. Kansas and Kentucky to name two. Louisiana is trying to recover from a disastrous Gov. Jindal. Elsewhere, GOP states are rushing to impose Voter ID and limit rights of minorities, as well as restricting access to reproductive health care.

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Jay C  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:09:33pm

re: #480 GlutenFreeJesus

it’s as if someone totally forgot the scathing report of systemic abuse of the Ferguson PD against minority residents.

Sounds less like a case of “forgot” and more like one of “vehemently disagree and want to utterly disavow”.

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stpaulbear  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:10:15pm

re: #250 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I just turned the channel over to ESPN2.

Probably not on purpose, but there is some epic level trolling with the network programming. The 30 for 30 documentary show is on, and the episode playing is: “Small Potatoes; Who killed the USFL?”

If you haven’t seen it, let me give you the answer to the question

Donald Trump

I just went to YouTube and watched that episode. Wow. Everyone they interviewed blamed Trump for the failure. He wasn’t allowed to buy an NFL team so he bought a USFL team and then tried to bully and sue his way into the NFL and totally fucked up the USFL in the process.

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Nyet  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:14:42pm

Hi from Verona ;)

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Jay C  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:15:30pm

re: #482 lawhawk

Of course economic issues are complicated: that’s why most politicians like to try, wherever possible, to reduce them to concepts the voting public can understand: usually blame-shifting, resentment-mongering, trite sloganeering, and simple-minded nostrums. Shorter: “Vote GOP”

ETA: Jeez, thread killed already? I feel like “The Cooler” here…. ;)

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:17:25pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:32:46pm

re: #456 JasonA

Pwned.

[Embedded content]

That is how the media should always respond to Trump lies.

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451_Montag  Jul 31, 2016 • 12:35:17pm

I’m actually really hoping Hillary really, really, really goes for it over the debates.

Cut an ad, face the camera, outline the timeline, outline he agreed, outline the process. Have links on screen. Then just say “Donald Trump is trying to get out of the debates because he is a coward”

Run it everywhere at least once and damn the cost.

Just leave him nowhere to squirm.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:07:39pm

re: #377 JasonA

He hates Silicon Valley. I wonder what he thinks of Peter “Lex Luthor” Thiel?

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:40:43pm

re: #414 MsJ

By a girl.

Who has debated Bill Clinton for some 46 years.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 31, 2016 • 2:50:34pm

re: #96 dangerman

it is an amazing feat and another example of technology moving on

WWII wasnt that long ago. it was a feat then just to make it to the ground safely, let alone pinpoint a 100x100 target (net or no net)

I’m not disparaging it.


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