Neo-Nazi Crony of Chuck C. Johnson Distributes Fliers Calling for the Death of Children

Empowered by the Trump candidacy, white supremacist hate freaks are getting bolder than ever
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How do you even start to describe the depravity of someone who would do something like this? Neo-Nazi Hacker Distributes Racist Fliers Calling for the Death of Children.

Andrew Auernheimer, the notorious neo-Nazi black hat computer hacker better known as “weev,” claims to have targeted 50,000 printers across the country to distribute hate-filled fliers that call for the killing of black and Jewish children. 

“I unequivocally support the killing of children,” Auernheimer wrote in the flier. “I believe that our enemies need such a level of atrocity inflicted upon them and their homes that they are afraid to ever threaten the white race with genocide again.”

He continued: “We will not relent until far after their daughters are raped in front of them. We will not relent until far after the eyes of their sons are gouged out before them. We will not relent until the cries of their infants are silenced by boots stomping on their brains out onto payment.”

Auernheimer is well-known as a white supremacist who once actually paid for Twitter advertisements promoting his noxious ideology, and was subsequently banned from their ad system. And he’s also a well-known compatriot of white supremacist Chuck C. Johnson.

Auernheimer is also a big fan of Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik:

Auernheimer also praises Anders Breivik, who killed 77 people in Oslo, Norway, and at a nearby children’s summer camp as a political statement against immigration in 2011. Auernheimer describes Breivik as a Nordic warrior, comparing him to the protagonist in the poem Volundarkvida, where the main character kills the sons of his captor and rapes his daughter after being imprisoned. Like the protagonist of the poem, Auernheimer served a brief stint in prison after he was convicted of one count of identity fraud and one count of conspiracy to access a computer without authorization after exposing a flaw in AT&T security which allowed the e-mail addresses of iPad users to be revealed.

Breivik seems to be a fascination of Auernheimer’s. Responding to Breivik’s appeal to receive internet access while he’s incarcerated, Auernheimber created the hashtag “#BreivikOnline” to draw attention to Breivik’s inability to go online.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:26:44pm

That’s one ugly tattoo.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:28:23pm

Seriously though the intersection of mainstream right and Nazi has got to be one of the scariest things about this election.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:28:33pm

All these specimens of the “Aryan Master Race” are such ugly little shitgoblins

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TedStriker  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:28:39pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

That’s one ugly tattoo.

Considering it’s on one of the ugliest human beings around right now, it’s par for the course.

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TedStriker  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:29:02pm

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

All these specimens of the “Aryan Master Race” are such ugly little shitgoblins

They don’t ever explain that one, do they?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:29:11pm

re: #4 TedStriker

Considering it’s on one of the ugliest human beings around right now, it’s par for the course.

Yep.

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:30:03pm

… hate-filled fliers that call for the killing of black and Jewish children. …

*sniff* *sniff* 18 USC § 1091 (c)?

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:30:06pm

I posted this in the last thread just as this one was created.

- - -

Wow, on Lawrence O’Donnells show Johnathon Alter just said crazy General Mike Flynn is paid by a Russian media group and is compromised. Of course, one of Donny Trump’s foreign advisers.

Has that bit been known and I just missed it, or is it just another piece of the puzzle to Russian funny business?

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Joe Bacon  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:31:18pm

He’s just a god-damned piece of garbage. No wonder why Ginger Snapped adores him!

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:34:37pm

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

All these specimens of the “Aryan Master Race” are such ugly little shitgoblins

I’ve always wondered about that. And it goes way back. I’ve always thought if the goofballs I always see chanting “white power” and “white pride” crap are some sort of a supreme master race, I don’t want to be considered white.

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teleskiguy  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:34:48pm

I’m at a loss as to the reasoning that Twitter still lets this scumbag use their service.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:35:50pm

re: #10 ObserverArt

I’ve always wondered about that. And it goes way back. I’ve always thought if the goofballs I always see chanting “white power” and “white pride” crap are some sort of a supreme master race, I don’t want to be considered white.

I always have to admit to getting some amusement hearing Goebells compare Jews to rats. I mean I hate dehumanizing rhetoric but did the dude even look in the mirror? Not exactly Aryan Master Race tehre Joe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:36:36pm

re: #7 Teukka

… hate-filled fliers that call for the killing of black and Jewish children. …

*sniff* *sniff* 18 USC § 1091 (c)?

Actually no, he didn’t kill anyone, just spammed a bunch of fax numbers.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:37:18pm

re: #8 ObserverArt

He’s been a regular “contributer” on Russia Today.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:37:25pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

I’m at a loss as to the reasoning that Twitter still lets this scumbag use their service.

Probably because he is doing hating of a huge group and not just one or two Twitter users being targeted with threats. And none of them are known public figures that could cause other customers to quit the service.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:37:27pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

I’m at a loss as to the reasoning that Twitter still lets this scumbag use their service.

You’re not the only one.

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:38:19pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

Actually no, he didn’t kill anyone, just spammed a bunch of fax numbers.

1091 (C) is “direct and public incitement to genocide”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:38:21pm
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allegro  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:39:26pm

That creepy dead-eyed dude is weev, huh? Strangely I don’t find his appearance surprising.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:39:33pm

re: #17 Teukka

1091 (C) is “direct and public incitement to genocide”

That would be if he was speaking at a Trump rally but not spamming a bunch of fax numbers.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:39:53pm

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JasonA  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:40:22pm

Reposted from downstairs.

I like that this election is separating the batshit crazy right-wingers from those who are just hateful but don’t want the world to end just yet.

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:40:26pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

That would be if he was speaking at a Trump rally but not spamming a bunch of fax numbers.

*sigh* Here, he’d get a visit from RPS/Säk…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:41:29pm

re: #17 Teukka

1091 (C) is “direct and public incitement to genocide”

Fortunately for this damaged in-duh-vidual, he left the US and is living in a country that has no extradition treaty with the US.

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allegro  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:42:35pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

Actually no, he didn’t kill anyone, just spammed a bunch of fax numbers.

Still worth a call out to the Public Utilities Commission.

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teleskiguy  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:42:55pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:43:23pm

re: #25 allegro

Still worth a call out to the Public Utilities Commission.

The people who received the faxes probably called authorities.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:44:07pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

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That these assholes put Party above Country is disgusting.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:44:23pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

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Haha.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:45:16pm

re: #24 Eric The Fruit Bat

Which country is he living in?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:45:30pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:46:35pm

You know the Automatic Block Trigger that results from viewing a wingnut’s Twitter profile?
This got an Automatic Follow Trigger:

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:47:00pm

re: #30 Ziggy_TARDIS

Which country is he living in?

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Abkhazia, Georgia. IIRC, run by Kremlin proxies… Go figure…

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freetoken  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:47:14pm

re: #22 JasonA

Reposted from downstairs.

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I like that this election is separating the batshit crazy right-wingers from those who are just hateful but don’t want the world to end just yet.

It’s a battle for king of the-wingnut-hill.

I take it as an example of male dominance behavior.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:48:01pm

re: #33 Teukka

Of course he is.

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teleskiguy  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:48:27pm

Say what (five years ago) ?!?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:48:31pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

Actually no, he didn’t kill anyone, just spammed a bunch of fax numbers.

He’s openly calling for the murder of US citizens, children citizens, this goes far beyond the incitement test in Brandenburg v Ohio, this is clearly criminal in my opinion. The level and degree of specificity in violence (rape in front of parents, eye gouging, brain stomping) combined with the targeting of children makes it prosecutable. Honestly I don’t know why we shouldn’t classify Andrew as a terrorist at this point, since he is clearly targeting US citizens from abroad.

18 U.S. Code § 2332b

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JasonA  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:51:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:51:31pm
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CleverToad  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:51:54pm

Queen of the Dead Threads!!!

Reposted from below:
Miscellaneous Secondhand Observations from today’s Clinton Rally:
— One lone BernieBuster with his mouth taped over, carrying a flag. No hat. Standing in an asphalt parking lot on a day where the air temp is 97 degrees.
— Five Trump supporters trying to occupy the end of a crosswalk, trying to chant and getting drowned out by the five hundred or so people crossing the street and chanting ‘Hil-lar-y.’ Also too dumb to wear hats.
— The (alleged) cheesesteak place down the street had been pretty much taken over by the Hillary supporters all day, according to the sweet young Hispanic ladies running the place. They were quite amused by it, and made a lot of money.
— Everyone was keeping an eye on their fellow ralliers to make sure that no one got heat stroke.
— The folks in the second overflow room were high-fiving and thanking the police officers after the rally. People were parked up to 3/4 of a mile away. Crowd estimate 5000+
— Yes, Hillary & Hick did come to the overflow rooms to talk to people, and take pictures with her. Lots of moms and little girls, lots of babies, lots of little old ladies in their 70’s and 80’s. Gents in pink t-shirts that said ‘Madam President. Get used to it” At least one wiener dog sitting at the table next to hubby, with a cute little six-year-old girl who was busy taking pictures.
— Lots of people laughing and talking to each other, taking pictures of each other, loaning their signs to someone else for a shot. Very warm crowd, hubby says, and not from the outside temperature. Comparing notes on what they did on the last campaign.
— People in the crowd were speculating that we might not see Hillary herself back this election cycle, drat it — surrogates, maybe, and I’d love to see Tim Kaine. But Colorado is pretty solid blue in the cities now.
— No tickets needed. You filled out a card with your email and your address and pledged to do some volunteering for the campaign. That was your ticket.
— Hubby says he could tell it was driving the Secret Service a little nuts trying to deal with the crowd as the main speakers moved from room to room. “You can leave now… No, you can’t leave now, she’s coming here… Okay, you have five minutes to leave but if you do, you can’t come back in…” If she does come back — bigger venues. Definitely.

All in all, a good time had. Completely different than the Trump rallies. Still sorry I missed it, but toujours gai archy. (And no, she didn’t mention the caregivers issue, but it’s on the website. I’m still happy someone’s thinking about it.)

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blueraven  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:52:31pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:54:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:55:35pm

re: #41 blueraven

They’ve already changed the photo.

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JasonA  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:56:16pm
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blueraven  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:58:06pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

They’ve already changed the photo.

How embarrassing. Clevelend/Jacksonville. What difference does it make?

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teleskiguy  Aug 3, 2016 • 7:58:58pm

re: #40 CleverToad

— The (alleged) cheesesteak place down the street had been pretty much taken over by the Hillary supporters all day, according to the sweet young Hispanic ladies running the place. They were quite amused by it, and made a lot of money.

If it’s called Taste of Philly that place is the real deal. Their flagship restaurant is on Broadway just south of Civic Center Park. I ate a lot at their location on Colorado Blvd. near DU back when I was a Denver resident.

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JasonA  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:02:39pm

HAHAHAHA!!!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:03:46pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

The white supremacists are coming out of the woodwork in the Trump era. No more hiding. This is Trump’s legacy to the GOP.

Consider it his public service, a sacrifice if you will. We need these fucksticks out where we can see them.

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CleverToad  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:04:24pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

If it’s called Taste of Philly that place is the real deal, on Broadway just south of Civic Center Park. I ate a lot at their location on Colorado Blvd. near DU back when I was a Denver resident.

South Philly Cheesesteaks on 72nd just west of Quebec Parkway. He says it was gooooood. Says there’s a couple of places on University Blvd down by D.U. that looked interesting too.

He says the ‘alleged’ designation is for the ‘Philly’ label. The cheese steaks were just fine.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:04:27pm

re: #47 JasonA

HAHAHAHA!!!

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So he attempted to vote three times? I guess that is where he is getting his “vote 10 times!” BS from.

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lockjawcanbefun  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:06:58pm
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JasonA  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:07:28pm

re: #50 Feline Fearless Leader

So he attempted to vote three times? I guess that is where he is getting his “vote 10 times!” BS from.

Nah. Apparently Donald Jr’s change of address ended up getting him taken off the rolls by mistake. He’s so nasty to people, though. Jeez.

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bratwurst  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:08:15pm

Wouldn’t you be?

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teleskiguy  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:08:22pm

It’s August. That’s when my skiing thinking takes me to stir-crazy moods.

Here, a picture of me skiing:

We’ll have a new president when the lifts start spinning again. I am going to go insane.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:09:21pm

Our Revolution
Our Revolution: What’s Next on Bernie Sanders’ Horizon via Common Dreams

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:09:23pm

re: #53 bratwurst

Wouldn’t you be?

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Imagine the emails but WIkileaks won’t be releasing those..

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:09:57pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

Our Revolution
Our Revolution: What’s Next on Bernie Sanders’ Horizon via Common Dreams

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Well he could start by campaigning for people other than himself.

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worldknot  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:11:48pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

Well he could start by campaigning for people other than himself.

Or whose sole qualification is supporting him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:12:34pm

re: #58 worldknot

Or whose sole qualification is supporting him.

Yep hence why Nina Turner and Tulsi Gababrd were actually seriously seen as VP material by the Busters.

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majii  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:12:38pm

re: #47 JasonA

“HAHAHAHA!!!”

I had made a comment on an earlier thread that because of the way he talks about elections being rigged and some people voting 10 times, that Trump doesn’t appear to me to be someone who has been a consistent voter since the age of 18. This article sort of confirms my suspicions.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:12:58pm

“Skeeter Lorre” hahaha

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:14:02pm
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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:15:36pm

This is a “journalist.”

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fern01  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:15:45pm

re: #40 CleverToad

Queen of the Dead Threads!!!

Reposted from below:

— No tickets needed. You filled out a card with your email and your address and pledged to do some volunteering for the campaign. That was your ticket.

This had me thinking about the Trump attendees - if they had to pledge to do some volunteering - wonder what they would do? Their phone techniques would be interesting to hear, given what they say at the rallies.

And many thanks for the post - saw it on the last thread & loved all the detail. This is why people go to democratic rallies.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:16:09pm

re: #63 jaunte

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This is a “journalist.”

Why should governments haev any secrets? //

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:17:14pm

re: #64 fern01

This had me thinking about the Trump attendees - if they had to pledge to do some volunteering - wonder what they would do? Their phone techniques would be interesting to hear, given what they say at the rallies.

And many thanks for the post - saw it on the last thread & loved all the detail. This is why people go to democratic rallies.

Trump campaign volunteers have to sign lifetime non-disparagement contracts, the same as his employees.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:18:04pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Press briefing, January 2016:

MR. EARNEST: Jon, this is actually the result of a long-running claims process that had been at The Hague. In 1979, there was obviously an Iranian revolution that abruptly severed relations between our two countries. And prior to that revolution, the U.S. government had entered into an agreement with the then-Iranian government to transfer about $400 million in military equipment to the Iranian government. Once the revolution took place, obviously that equipment was not transferred, but we also didn’t return Iran’s money either. So that money essentially was held in what could, I think — essentially in an escrow account. And for more than 30 years now, the Iranians have been using this claims process at The Hague to try to recover that $400 million.
This resolution that we agreed to was to return the $400 million and also to pay about $1 billion in interest.
politicususa.com

Big secret.

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Scottishdragon  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:18:25pm
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majii  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:18:52pm

re: #48 Decatur Deb

“Consider it his public service, a sacrifice if you will. We need these fucksticks out where we can see them.”

More and more I’ve been thinking the same thing—-they should come out and be seen. I remember when Palin riled up the crowds and spurred them on to act out in stupid ways using reckless language, she thought it meant she and McCain would win in 2008. The opposite happened. I think most Americans, even some republicans, abhor the type of ugliness that Trump and his supporters have been displaying at his rallies. GOP leaders did the same thing when the Tea Partiers showed up and acted out. None of them was willing to condemn their behavior, and now that their inaction has resulted in negative consequences for their party, they’re all like, “How did this happen?” If I saw it, they saw it, so there is no need for them to pretend at this point that they don’t know how they ended up having a vulgar yam as their 2016 presidential candidate.

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CleverToad  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:20:25pm

Governor Hickenlooper’s joke about negative advertising:

The shark family spots some people swimming in the water. Father shark tells little shark, “This is how we do it. First, we circle around with just the tip of our fins showing.”

“Okay, I can do that,” says little shark. So they circle twice, with the people gasping and saying, “Ooh, is that a shark?”

Father says, “Next, we circle with our full fins showing.”

“Ooh, this is fun!” says little shark, giggling happily. “I can do this!” So they circle twice more, and the people freak out, screaming, “Help! Eek! Those were sharks!”

“Now what do we do next?” says little shark.

“We eat them.” And they gobble down the people.

With his tummy so full that he can barely move, the baby shark finally says, “Ooh, I’m tired now. Why did we have to circle so much?”

And the parent sharks tell him, “Son, people are delicious. But they’re even better after you scare the shit out of them.”

(There was a deafening cheer for our Governor from the crowd, I’m told.)

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Dave In Austin  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:20:49pm

Evening all. Nite shift returns….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:24:11pm

re: #67 jaunte

Press briefing, January 2016:

Big secret.

So outrageous. //

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teleskiguy  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:27:54pm

Local property management company does the right thing. And they’ll make more money as a result.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:28:29pm

Oh man, he’s trying to fight back.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:28:53pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

Local property management company does the right thing. And they’ll make more money as a result.

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One of my friends is steadfully anti-minimum wage. Seems oblivious to the fact that it’s good for pretty much everyone to have a decent wage.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:28:59pm

The cargo plane was unmarked!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:29:22pm

re: #74 jaunte

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Oh man, he’s trying to fight back.

Now, he’s just nitpicking.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:29:40pm

re: #76 jaunte

The cargo plane was unmarked!

It didn’t say Cargo Plane full of Iranian moneys.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:29:46pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Can’tbewrong

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Kragar  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:29:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:29:59pm

I am sorry but I have had it with the double standards this administration gets from its critics.

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majii  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:30:29pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Press briefing, January 2016.

Many of our members of the press can’t provide accurate information to the public because there’s either so much they don’t know, or they’re extremely lazy and can’t be bothered to research anything, so they just repeat and/or rewrite what another journalist has said/written.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:30:36pm

Obama never said it would be cash!

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CleverToad  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:30:43pm

re: #64 fern01

This had me thinking about the Trump attendees - if they had to pledge to do some volunteering - wonder what they would do? Their phone techniques would be interesting to hear, given what they say at the rallies.

And many thanks for the post - saw it on the last thread & loved all the detail. This is why people go to democratic rallies.

The spouse says when he was leaving, he was talking to a Vietnam vet who was there from ‘66-‘71, got out and went back to grad school the next day. He’s in medical technology, says he can’t volunteer for the campaign this time because he’s going to Italy to attend seminars related to his field, heading over early to learn the language. Hubby thanked him for having gone into the hell hole back then; a couple other ladies were also talking to him. The vet commented that everyone he talked to at the rally had been so nice to him.

I like Democrats. We have some stinkers too, but it seems like a lower percentage.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:32:21pm

re: #82 majii

Press briefing, January 2016.

Many of our members of the press can’t provide accurate information to the public because there’s either so much they don’t know, or they’re extremely lazy and can’t be bothered to research anything, so they just repeat and/or rewrite what another journalist has said/written.

It’s really bad. The more I see with journalism these days, the more I am glad I didn’t stay with it.

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:32:21pm

re: #83 jaunte

Obama never said it would be cash!

He should have issued Walmart gift cards.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:32:58pm

re: #86 Belafon

He should have issued Walmart gift cards.

1 million Chuck E Cheese tickets!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:33:22pm

re: #69 majii

“Consider it his public service, a sacrifice if you will. We need these fucksticks out where we can see them.”

More and more I’ve been thinking the same thing—-they should come out and be seen. I remember when Palin riled up the crowds and spurred them on to act out in stupid ways using reckless language, she thought it meant she and McCain would win in 2008. The opposite happened. I think most Americans, even some republicans, abhor the type of ugliness that Trump and his supporters have been displaying at his rallies. GOP leaders did the same thing when the Tea Partiers showed up and acted out. None of them was willing to condemn their behavior, and now that their inaction has resulted in negative consequences for their party, they’re all like, “How did this happen?” If I saw it, they saw it, so there is no need for them to pretend at this point that they don’t know how they ended up having a vulgar yam as their 2016 presidential candidate.

For 30 years I thought our town was unusually progressive and well-run, largely because this area was simply unpopulated before the Civil War. In the last 6 months I’ve been convinced that our police force is klan-infiltrated with the collusion of our nice-guy mayor and a murderous DA. I want to know what I’m dealing with.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:33:32pm

How do you deal with right wing derpstorms from someone you respect? Honest question here.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:34:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:34:52pm

Had a good talk with my Dad today and we both basically had our philosophy summed up, we’d rather our taxdollars go to making life better for more people than on wars and deportations.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:35:31pm

re: #90 jaunte

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Reagan would have never done it. //

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:35:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:36:04pm

I saw that FNC in their effort to show how pathetic they are had North on to bash the payment. Yeah Ollie, you know a thing or two about secret payments to Iran.

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SteelPH  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:36:10pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Reagan would have never done it. //

Nope. He sold weapons to Iran instead.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:36:20pm

Good of Trump to label it Scandal! for the slow fans following along.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:36:47pm

re: #93 jaunte

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teleskiguy  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:37:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:38:48pm

There’s also a derpstorm about Obama issuing clemency to some prisoners. Nearly all of whom were convicted of non-violence drug offenses. But yeah this is just terrible. //

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fern01  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:39:09pm

re: #84 CleverToad

The spouse says when he was leaving, he was talking to a Vietnam vet who was there from ‘66-‘71, got out and went back to grad school the next day. He’s in medical technology, says he can’t volunteer for the campaign this time because he’s going to Italy to attend seminars related to his field, heading over early to learn the language. Hubby thanked him for having gone into the hell hole back then; a couple other ladies were also talking to him. The vet commented that everyone he talked to at the rally had been so nice to him.

I like Democrats. We have some stinkers too, but it seems like a lower percentage.

From the president down, the dems look for the positive in people
There is no possible comparison between “don’t boo, vote” and “lock her up”

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majii  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:39:18pm

re: #95 SteelPH

“Nope. He sold weapons to Iran instead.”

And, the GOPers in Congress at the time ran interference for Reagan. They knew he’d broken the law, but they worked very hard to deflect all blame away from him, making North the fall guy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:40:36pm

re: #101 majii

“Nope. He sold weapons to Iran instead.”

And, the GOPers in Congress at the time ran interference for Reagan. They knew he’d broken the law, but they worked very hard to deflect all blame away from him, making North the fall guy.

And then they ran Ollie for Senate seven years later like nothing had happened. I was told that my grandfather told Ollie off when he attempted to shake his hand at a festival that year. Miss that guy.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:41:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:41:58pm

I will give John Warner credit though. He opposed that crook North’s run for the Senate.

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:42:26pm

Some Wednesday night musics:John Murphy - Sunshine (Adagio in D Minor)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:42:38pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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Decatur Deb  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:44:14pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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They should go eat at the fish joint where Natasha Obama is working.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:45:01pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

They should go eat at the fish joint where Natasha Obama is working.

That would be cruel and unusual for her.

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BeachDem  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:46:17pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

Our Revolution
Our Revolution: What’s Next on Bernie Sanders’ Horizon via Common Dreams

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Jeez. The commenters at common dreams are nuttier than the Reddit and caucus99 loons. Didn’t think that was possible.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:46:45pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

That would be cruel and unusual for her.

He looks like a good tipper.

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:46:47pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:47:19pm

re: #109 BeachDem

Jeez. The commenters at common dreams are nuttier than the Reddit and caucus99 loons. Didn’t think that was possible.

CommonDreams I believe was always leftiest of lefty in the 2004 primaries. Maybe I’m thinking of another site. Anyhow, I’d actually be sympathetic to this a little if I actually saw Bernie as capable of being more inclusive minded.

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retired cynic  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:47:20pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

He looks like a good tipper.

I doubt that. Maybe good to tip over….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:47:38pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

He looks like a good tipper.

Looks can be deceiving.

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majii  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:48:24pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

“I thought Newt hated elites. Only elites go to Martha’s Vineyard.” //

I know you remember how much fuss many on the right made a few years ago when the Obamas went to MV. What they don’t know is that blacks have lived on MV for decades. There’s even an African American Heritage Trail there. If they’d bother to do a bit of research, they could avoid being manipulated by GOP shysters who have no problem lying to them to make a buck.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:49:50pm

re: #115 majii

“I thought Newt hated elites. Only elites go to Martha’s Vineyard.” //

I know you remember how much fuss many on the right made a few years ago when the Obamas went to MV. What they don’t know is that blacks have lived on MV for decades. There’s even an African American Heritage Trail there. If they’d bother to do a bit of research, they could avoid being manipulated by GOP shysters who have no problem lying to them to make a buck.

So much of what the right does is confirmation bias bs. I see it all the time on Facebook. There’s never any desire to research. Just to btich.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:51:45pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

It’s really bad. The more I see with journalism these days, the more I am glad I didn’t stay with it.

Yeah, every day I see reasons why I’m glad I failed the last class in the journalism program at the University of Texas at Austin in 1982. At least I don’t have to explain to people today that B.J. stands for “Bachelor of Journalism,” and not “Blow Job.” I got a perfectly serviceable BA in government.

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William Lewis  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:52:03pm

re: #101 majii

“Nope. He sold weapons to Iran instead.”

And, the GOPers in Congress at the time ran interference for Reagan. They knew he’d broken the law, but they worked very hard to deflect all blame away from him, making North the fall guy.

North and Reagan should have spent the rest of their lives making big rocks into little rocks at Ft Leavenworth.

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teleskiguy  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:53:43pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Plastic People

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:54:19pm

re: #117 mmmirele

Yeah, every day I see reasons why I’m glad I failed the last class in the journalism program at the University of Texas at Austin in 1982. At least I don’t have to explain to people today that B.J. stands for “Bachelor of Journalism,” and not “Blow Job.” I got a perfectly serviceable BA in government.

My second to last year of college. I got involved with a group that worked for better working conditions for the campus cafeteria workers. I had been involved with the paper. I was a sports journalist. Anyhow, I saw how the paper totally distorted the students who were working to improve the workers benefits and rights and made them out to be UFCW stooges. It’s true. The UFCW was involved in the unionization but the way they painted us just bothered me. I had some personal things too I guess but that incident really disillusioned me about journalism as a career. So much is ass kissing.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:54:23pm

re: #117 mmmirele

I went to Texas too, but my degree is a BFA in Fine Art. I’ve never had to show it to anyone in a job interview for some reason.

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BeachDem  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:55:20pm

re: #84 CleverToad

The spouse says when he was leaving, he was talking to a Vietnam vet who was there from ‘66-‘71, got out and went back to grad school the next day. He’s in medical technology, says he can’t volunteer for the campaign this time because he’s going to Italy to attend seminars related to his field, heading over early to learn the language. Hubby thanked him for having gone into the hell hole back then; a couple other ladies were also talking to him. The vet commented that everyone he talked to at the rally had been so nice to him.

I like Democrats. We have some stinkers too, but it seems like a lower percentage.

I’ve noticed that too, at every Dem rally I’ve ever attended . People are friendly and smiling and HAPPY.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 8:57:28pm

re: #122 BeachDem

I’ve noticed that too, at every Dem rally I’ve ever attended . People are friendly and smiling and HAPPY.

When what unites you is making things better for people rather than making things harder for people, you tend to be more happy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:00:10pm

i guess that’s why I never got why conservatives were able to portray themselves as the optimistic ones. I always thought that Bush relied on fear tactics to win and Reagan while I concede was able to project optimism also was using language that was hostile to the “other.”

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darthstar  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:00:13pm

I will say this. The guy at the top of this page at least has an artistically thought out swastika on his chest…but it’s still a MOTHERFUCKING SWASTIKA!!! Jesus…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:01:03pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:01:17pm

re: #125 darthstar

I will say this. The guy at the top of this page at least has an artistically thought out swastika on his chest…but it’s still a MOTHERFUCKING SWASTIKA!!! Jesus…

That shit ain’t a jailhouse tat.

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CleverToad  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:01:22pm

Another note from the rally — the spouse says he did see five or six ladies in dark purple and yellow shirts with the logo “$15 an hour for caregivers.” So there were people there stumping for that issue.

Also a lot of ladies in Broncos orange shirts for “Moms Demand Action.”

Also one gorgeous deep purple shirt with a black-and-white picture of the Notorious RBG wearing a rainbow-colored crown.

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BeachDem  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:04:26pm

re: #117 mmmirele

Yeah, every day I see reasons why I’m glad I failed the last class in the journalism program at the University of Texas at Austin in 1982. At least I don’t have to explain to people today that B.J. stands for “Bachelor of Journalism,” and not “Blow Job.” I got a perfectly serviceable BA in government.

I like to tell people (especially reporters) that I’m glad I applied my journalism education toward the more honorable profession of advertising.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:05:27pm

this just in: Reince Priebus says he would like to get the same deal that DW-S got.

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JasonA  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:07:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:09:16pm

re: #131 JasonA

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Do Blue Lives that support ISIS matter? Sorry for being a smartass since this is pretty horrifying stuff honestly. Somehow, I doubt David Clarke who has said that BLM wants to align with ISIS will say anything about this.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:09:29pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

How do you deal with right wing derpstorms from someone you respect? Honest question here.

respect can evolve and change over time. you learn more, your relationship may alter

i care much less about who somebody votes for than about how they decide who to vote for

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BigBadDemocrat  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:09:30pm

Now, been out of the country on an assignment.

Have had no time to be watching the goings on.
What the heck is this Trump stuff.
Thought he was not going any where.
I leave and the country goes side ways.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:11:27pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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Doesn’t that deadbeat have campaign debts to pay?

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MsJ  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:11:44pm

re: #131 JasonA

He’s a transit cop. I hope he burns in hell. Or prison for a long, long time.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:11:58pm

re: #133 dangerman

respect can evolve and change over time. you learn more, your relationship may alter

i care much less about who somebody votes for than about how they decide who to vote for

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:12:35pm

re: #134 BigBadDemocrat

Now, been out of the country on an assignment.

Have had no time to be watching the goings on.
What the heck is this Trump stuff.
Thought he was not going any where.
I leave and the country goes side ways.

we needed ya
we called and left a message
never heard back

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:13:13pm

re: #135 Barefoot Grin

Doesn’t that deadbeat have campaign debts to pay?

I guess it was in the fine print. WARNING: Campaign contributions may or may not be used on Newt and Calista’s vacations.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:14:01pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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just a couple of ordinary folks enjoying a night out on an exclusive mostly rich island getaway

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BigBadDemocrat  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:18:43pm

re: #140 dangerman

Our company big wigs hang out there and meet people who sign the contracts we work.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:18:43pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

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Ubiq  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:19:39pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

How do you deal with right wing derpstorms from someone you respect? Honest question here.

I prefer sarcastic gifs in response.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:21:19pm

re: #142 dangerman

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Thanks for the advice. Anyhow if he visits and wants to talk politics. I’m going to be blunt and let him knwo we’re very oppostie playing fields and that our friendship goes back to a time where we had no idea about any of this shit. I have no desire to stop being his friend but I do hope he can learn. I guess I should take it as a small blessing he hates Trump. I’ll be okay. Just some of the stuff makes me shake my damn head.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:21:52pm

re: #141 BigBadDemocrat

Our company big wigs hang out there and meet people who sign the contracts we work.

i dont begrudge anyone their success or access to things that successful people gain access to

with these two it rings like a hollow and ungenuine humility

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:26:29pm

OT to counteract the tattoos

rare leopards born in britian

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majii  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:27:16pm

re: #145 dangerman

“i dont begrudge anyone their success or access to things that successful people gain access to”

I read an article about this duo a few years ago that pointed out how they’re always hawking something, be it Newt’s speaking engagements, CDs, products, and/or videos. All of these are peddled to right-wingers, using RW talking points/beliefs. It’s a tactic similar to the one Dinesh D’Souza uses when he produces an anti-Democratic politician movie about every four years during a presidential election year.

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BigBadDemocrat  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:28:35pm

re: #145 dangerman

When we do get information on the who and what goes on there and how, comes to find out the same people make the decision on who to use our company/methods are the same when the Republicans are in power and when the Democrats are in power.

Just below the water line where we can not see the same water bugs swim doing what water bugs do.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:29:29pm

re: #147 majii

“i dont begrudge anyone their success or access to things that successful people gain access to”

I read an article about this duo a few years ago that pointed out how they’re always hawking something, be it Newt’s speaking engagements, CDs, products, and/or videos. All of these are peddled to right-wingers, using RW talking points/beliefs. It’s a tactic similar to the one Dinesh D’Souza uses when he produces an anti-Democratic politician movie about every four years during a presidential election year.

It’s amazing how much money goes into media that reenforces peoples beliefs.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:30:41pm

re: #148 BigBadDemocrat

When we do get information on the who and what goes on there and how, comes to find out the same people make the decision on who to use our company/methods are the same when the Republicans are in power and when the Democrats are in power.

Just below the water line where we can not see the same water bugs swim doing what water bugs do.

naked self interest. whoda thought?

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:33:46pm

A little perspective

Time Warner just invested more in HULU ($584M) than the amount of Iran’s own money we just gave back to them ($400m + interest)

why is this important?
it’s not
just two stories with about the same number on the same day

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MsJ  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:35:13pm

From the People freaking suck file.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:35:56pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

It’s amazing how much money goes into media that reenforces peoples beliefs.

a willing audience and market makes for a great business model

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:37:33pm

re: #153 dangerman

a willing audience and market makes for a great business model

True. Limbaugh’s been around since I was a kid. Still has a loyal core audience.

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allegro  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:38:43pm

re: #62 Teukka

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Of all my birds, the Congo African Greys were among the most fun due to their astonishing ability to mimic and much more. Human speech is their most renowned ability (and yes, they do often understand what they’re saying and mean it, by golly - if one asks for a grape don’t think you’ll get away with giving him a carrot). But one of my most amusing greys wasn’t much of a talker, though he could when he was in the mood. Bogart was more of a sound effects guy. He was into house noises and such, including video games sound effects that were hilarious.

When we had a monitored alarm system installed in the house, the techs were testing the doors that beeped when opened and closed. I laughed and said that Bogie would be beeping within a day. The tech looked at me like “yeah, right”. I was used to that since no one ever believed us until they heard/saw for themselves what our parrots could do. Some time later I emerged from my office wondering what was taking them so long to get the system installed. They were trying to work a bug out of the system that had them baffled. Seems the system was beeping even though no doors were opened/closed and the techs were going nuts over it, never had that happen before. Of course they hadn’t cuz they never had Bogart happen to them before. He had a new sound and he liked it. A lot. That was a fun “I told ya so”.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:38:56pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

True. Limbaugh’s been around since I was a kid. Still has a loyal core audience.

listen to the advertisements
says a lot about his audience

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:39:46pm

re: #152 MsJ

From the People freaking suck file.

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i would not doubt domestic violence in that home

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:42:53pm

re: #156 dangerman

listen to the advertisements
says a lot about his audience

Never really paid them much attention. I did have a bus driver who was fond of listening to him in the 2008 election. I never really listened. Rush’s voice is painful to listen since he’s so full of shit. Plus I wanted to listen to music during my commute.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:43:21pm

gotta get some sleep before jeffrey comes around gloating about his breakfast (jk)

looking forward to tomorrows kaos (h/t Get Smart)

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MsJ  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:43:25pm

re: #157 dangerman

i would not doubt domestic violence in that home

I followed the article at the AP. A real gem; was in prison, beat up an elderly person, DUI. Killed a fucking dancing flamingo…for absolutely no reason. It made me cry, TBH. So sad.

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TedStriker  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:47:14pm

re: #70 CleverToad

Governor Hickenlooper’s joke about negative advertising:

The shark family spots some people swimming in the water. Father shark tells little shark, “This is how we do it. First, we circle around with just the tip of our fins showing.”

“Okay, I can do that,” says little shark. So they circle twice, with the people gasping and saying, “Ooh, is that a shark?”

Father says, “Next, we circle with our full fins showing.”

“Ooh, this is fun!” says little shark, giggling happily. “I can do this!” So they circle twice more, and the people freak out, screaming, “Help! Eek! Those were sharks!”

“Now what do we do next?” says little shark.

“We eat them.” And they gobble down the people.

With his tummy so full that he can barely move, the baby shark finally says, “Ooh, I’m tired now. Why did we have to circle so much?”

And the parent sharks tell him, “Son, people are delicious. But they’re even better after you scare the shit out of them.”

(There was a deafening cheer for our Governor from the crowd, I’m told.)

Rimshot - Ba dum tssshhh

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allegro  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:49:05pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Had a good talk with my Dad today and we both basically had our philosophy summed up, we’d rather our taxdollars go to making life better for more people than on wars and deportations.

I think it was sometime in the 1990s when I argued that it was better to have Democrats in my wallet than Republicans in my womb.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:50:36pm

re: #152 MsJ

From the People freaking suck file.

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Judge nails it: “Depraved”

[Suspect Joseph Corrao] decided to reach into Pinky’s pen, grab the bird by the neck and violently throw her to the ground in front of his family.”

On Wednesday, Corrao appeared in court in front of Judge John Conrad.

“It actually borders on depraved,” the judge told Corrao. “Mr. Corrao, I don’t know if you have other issues. I don’t know who does that, I really don’t. I don’t relate to that on any level.”

Corrao’s record includes assault on an elderly person, fleeing police, and various other offenses.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:51:29pm

re: #160 MsJ

I followed the article at the AP. A real gem; was in prison, beat up an elderly person, DUI. Killed a fucking dancing flamingo…for absolutely no reason. It made me cry, TBH. So sad.

These things ruin my day and make me hate humanity……

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:52:01pm

re: #162 allegro

I think it was sometime in the 1990s when I argued that it was better to have Democrats in my wallet than Republicans in my womb.

Everyone finds their own path.

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BlueGrl21  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:54:04pm

re: #143 Ubiq

I prefer sarcastic gifs in response.

I don’t engage them. I say, “Look, I love you, I respect you, but we don’t agree. So let’s agree to disagree and leave politics out of our friendship. Don’t want to talk about it any more.”

Then talk about something else. If they bring it up again, “We agreed this is off limits.”

If they cannot respect your boundaries you have a bigger issue. You’re not asking them to kill a kitten, you’re simply saying, “I don’t want to talk politics.”

My best friend and I have agreed we will discuss POLICY but not POLITICS. I will discuss abortion law or foreign policy or other things. I will not discuss Hillary Clinton. Works for us.

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Lidane  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:54:16pm
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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:55:44pm

re: #152 MsJ

From the People freaking suck file.

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re: #157 dangerman

i would not doubt domestic violence in that home

Floriduh man strikes again…
*SMFH*

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:56:26pm

re: #166 BlueGrl21

I don’t engage them. I say, “Look, I love you, I respect you, but we don’t agree. So let’s agree to disagree and leave politics out of our friendship. Don’t want to talk about it any more.”

Then talk about something else. If they bring it up again, “We agreed this is off limits.”

If they cannot respect your boundaries you have a bigger issue. You’re not asking them to kill a kitten, you’re simply saying, “I don’t want to talk politics.”

My best friend and I have agreed we will discuss POLICY but not POLITICS. I will discuss abortion law or foreign policy or other things. I will not discuss Hillary Clinton. Works for us.

That’s pretty much what I plan to do. When he did talk about the transgendered bathroom policies that he and the governor of NC supports, I had to point out to him that for someone who claims to be anti-big government he was benig a hypcorite. It’s sad that his prejudices are getting in the way.

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majii  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:58:06pm

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel

“”It actually borders on depraved,” the judge told Corrao. “Mr. Corrao, I don’t know if you have other issues. I don’t know who does that, I really don’t. I don’t relate to that on any level.”“

He’s just a lowdown dirty b*stard. That is all. The bird wasn’t bothering him, wasn’t even thinking about him, but he found the time to kill it because he could. So yes, he’s just a lowdown dirty b*st*rd who has zero respect for anyone/thing besides himself. Throw his butt under the jail.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:59:20pm

Forecast Calls For Calm Spell After Latest Trumpstorm

area residents advised to rest brains while conspiracy theories and bitter resentments build up in the atmosphere

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 9:59:32pm

re: #170 majii

“”It actually borders on depraved,” the judge told Corrao. “Mr. Corrao, I don’t know if you have other issues. I don’t know who does that, I really don’t. I don’t relate to that on any level.”“

He’s just a lowdown dirty b*stard. That is all. The bird wasn’t bothering him, wasn’t even thinking about him, but he found the time to kill it because he could. So yes, he’s just a lowdown dirty b*st*rd who has zero respect for anyone/thing besides himself. Throw his butt under the jail.

Any chance they’ll do a psych eval on the SoB?

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:00:16pm

I decided to look up the definition of “depraved.” I know perfectly well what it means but a dictionary definition can still be handy. The list of synonyms could be very useful during the remainder of the presidential campaign.

de*praved
dəˈprāvd/
adjective
morally corrupt; wicked.
“a depraved indifference to human life”
synonyms: corrupt, perverted, deviant, degenerate, debased, immoral, unprincipled; debauched, dissolute, licentious, lecherous, prurient, indecent, sordid; wicked, sinful, vile, iniquitous, nefarious; informal: warped, twisted, sick

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majii  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:05:04pm

re: #172 Teukka

The judge might order a psych eval for him, but I don’t think he’s mentally ill. He’s simply a mean, hateful, violent SOB. If he has a significant other, it wouldn’t surprise me if it comes out at trial that he’s been verbally and physically abusive to that individual, whom he probably claims to “love to death.” Uh, huh. Dude doesn’t know what love is if he can kill a beautiful, innocent creature who brought joy and pleasure to many others, a creature that was doing absolutely nothing to him. What he did makes me very angry.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:05:41pm

re: #172 Teukka

Any chance they’ll do a psych eval on the SoB?

Judge: “Doctor, have you and the board reached a conclusion about the subject’s mental condition.”

Psychiatrist: “Yes, your honor. After a thorough evaluation, including observation, interviews, and a comprehensive battery of standardized tests, we find that the subject is a low-down dirty bastard.”

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TedStriker  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:09:45pm

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:11:44pm

re: #174 majii

The judge might order a psych eval for him, but I don’t think he’s mentally ill. He’s simply a mean, hateful, violent SOB. If he has a significant other, it wouldn’t surprise me if it comes out at trial that he’s been verbally and physically abusive to that individual, whom he probably claims to “love to death.” Uh, huh. Dude doesn’t know what love is if he can kill a beautiful, innocent creature who brought joy and pleasure to many others, a creature that was doing absolutely nothing to him. What he did makes me very angry.

There’s a spectrum of mental problems, from what everyone knows is cray-cray to the extent you need to go the funny farm, to what is called personality disorders.
Not necessarily the level requiring involuntary care, but well within the range that you should let a professional help so you don’t end up beating your SO to death one day.
Sadly, psychiatric health care isn’t sexy to spend on, so people people who could’ve been caught early on deteriorate to a level where they do more damage.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:12:53pm

Animal cruelty:

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:13:03pm

re: #175 Shiplord Kirel

Judge” Doctor, have you and the board reached a conclusion about the subject’s mental condition.”

Psychiatrist: “Yes, your honor. After a thorough evaluation, including observation, interviews, and a comprehensive battery of standardized tests, we find that the subject is a low-down dirty bastard.”

Dirty Bastard Personality Disorder? Sounds like a reasonable diagnosis.
On a more serious note though, I would guess antisocial personality disorder, impulse control issues, anger management…

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:14:02pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel

Animal cruelty:

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Dave In Austin  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:14:29pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:19:04pm

re: #180 Teukka

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allegro  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:19:14pm

re: #174 majii

They judge might order a psych eval for him, but I don’t think he’s mentally ill. He’s simply a mean, hateful, violent SOB. If he has a significant other, it wouldn’t surprise me if it comes out at trial that he’s been verbally and physically abusive to that individual, whom he probably claims to “love to death.” Uh, huh. Dude doesn’t know what love is if he can kill a beautiful, innocent creature who brought joy and pleasure to many others, a creature that was doing absolutely nothing to him. What he did makes me very angry.

I would feel confidant flat out guaranteeing he’s abusive to his family and others. This kind of violence and victimization of a helpless one doesn’t happen in isolation or a whim. Very likely an expression of violence inflicted on him when he was helpless but no excuse.

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:22:59pm

re: #183 allegro

I would feel confidant flat out guaranteeing he’s abusive to his family and others. This kind of violence and victimization of a helpless one doesn’t happen in isolation or a whim. Very likely an expression of violence inflicted on him when he was helpless but no excuse.

Could also be an expression of him needing to prove his “manliness” and being macho. Long story short, his ego couldn’t hack being told off by a female, and things escalated from there. It’s not the first time I’ve seen that particular side effect of macho culture, sadly.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:25:17pm

I feel the same about Aurenwhatsit as I do about flamingo killer guy: Thirty-five cent solution behind the woodshed, no muss no fuss. I’ll even pay for my own gas.

I don’t care how they got where they are - for the good of the rest of the human race, once they cross the line into cutting up innocent things, they ought to be put down. ISIS head-choppers, Nazis, and animal killers all go on the same boat into the sun, if it was up to me.

Edit: after due process, obviously. Confession/conviction/evidence presented, et cetera. But if guilty… Blammo. I don’t think I’d feel bad about it either.

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allegro  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:25:58pm

re: #184 Teukka

Could also be an expression of him needing to prove his “manliness” and being macho. Long story short, his ego couldn’t hack being told off by a female, and things escalated from there. It’s not the first time I’ve seen that particular side effect of macho culture, sadly.

Toxic masculinity. Yeah, know that one well.

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Scout  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:32:32pm

An opinion piece in my hometown newspaper got picked up by the Drudge Report. So readers of the Drudge Report descended on the paper’s website and left tons of comments. A guy who works there told me they had to scrub over 500 racist comments.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 3, 2016 • 10:42:59pm

Flamingo Killer

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 3, 2016 • 11:00:12pm

This article from DKos doesn’t paint a good picture for the Trump campaign.

Minutes of Meeting in which Trump Campaign Altered Ukraine Language in GOP Platform have Disappeared

The Trump campaign went out of its way to dramatically alter the Republican Party’s official position on Ukraine—against the wishes of GOP hawks and despite senior Trump aide Paul Manafort’s insistence that they weren’t involved.

The move, first reported by The Washington Post, alienated Republicans who have made up the party’s foreign policy base for decades, and indicates that the Trump campaign has a particular interest in Ukraine, where Manafort had previously worked for a pro-Putin leader.

Meanwhile, records for the meeting seem to have disappeared…

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KingKenrod  Aug 3, 2016 • 11:09:19pm

re: #189 Single-handed sailor

This article from DKos doesn’t paint a good picture for the Trump campaign.

Minutes of Meeting in which Trump Campaign Altered Ukraine Language in GOP Platform have Disappeared

The funniest thing about this is campaign platforms are utterly meaningless documents except maybe for a little free press. It’s a real amateur move to risk exposing your real agenda by sneaking something into a platform.

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freetoken  Aug 3, 2016 • 11:51:23pm

The other day, in discussing the new State of the Climate report and mentioning how it brought out the usual actors, I linked to an article in The Australian with the usual stream of denier comments and stupidness.

I noted that The Australian is indeed a Murdoch paper, though it’s hard to find his name attached to the publication on its websites.

Murdoch poisons everything and everywhere he goes, given his adeptness at exploiting hate in making money.

Anyway, The Australian is in the news today:

The Australian defends ‘insulting’ Bill Leak cartoon

One of Australia’s most prominent cartoonists is under fire for an unflattering drawing of an Indigenous man.

A Bill Leak cartoon published in The Australian newspaper on Thursday depicts an Aboriginal man who has forgotten his son’s name.

Indigenous groups said the cartoon was “ugly, insulting and embarrassing”.

[…]

In the cartoon, a police officer is shown bringing an Indigenous child to his father, saying: “You’ll have to sit down and talk to your son about personal responsibility.”

The father, who is barefoot and holding a beer can, asks: “What’s his name then?”

[…]

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freetoken  Aug 3, 2016 • 11:53:17pm

The BBC claims the newspaper “typically takes a right-wing position” but refuses to name News Corp Australia as the owner.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:39:20am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

One of my friends is steadfully anti-minimum wage. Seems oblivious to the fact that it’s good for pretty much everyone to have a decent wage.

IF EMPLOYEES HAVE TO BE PAID ENOUGH TO LIVE ON IT WILL DESTROY JERBS!!!1!1!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:43:05am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

One of my friends is steadfully anti-minimum wage. Seems oblivious to the fact that it’s good for pretty much everyone to have a decent wage.

There is a lot of talk about “the dignity of labor” and the social value it provides, remember Ronnie Reagan’s “The best social program you can offer someone is a job”?

(right before he cut funds for job training programs)

But part of the “dignity of labor” is being able to raise, feed and educate a family on one’s wages.

Sorry, people, labor is just another cost factor like staples or toner cartridges. A bulk commodity that is traded as cheaply as possible. And when you are no longer needed, you are cut.

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teleskiguy  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:43:56am

Instagram

Saw a family of moose while tree skiing on this surprise powder day. #VailLive

November is only three months away.

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teleskiguy  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:52:30am

I like this picture.

Instagram

Looking down Snorkel at @ArapahoeBasin. @WagnerCustom

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William Lewis  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:53:05am

re: #195 teleskiguy

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November is only three months away.

Pity we can’t get about an inch of snow at the end of November for deer hunting and then spring immediately after that… O_O

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Archangelus  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:55:51am

re: #195 teleskiguy

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November is only three months away.

*Checks the local temps, then checks the calendar *

Anyone have a time machine? Three months in this damned heat is too damn long…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:56:11am

re: #190 KingKenrod

The funniest thing about this is campaign platforms are utterly meaningless documents except maybe for a little free press. It’s a real amateur move to risk exposing your real agenda by sneaking something into a platform.

Since perhaps the Russians aren’t aware of that, Manafort may have done it to impress Putin with his ability to neutralize the previously hawkish GOP.

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William Lewis  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:57:14am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is one of the things that pushed me into accepting Marxist economic analysis and especially the Labor Theory of Value.

Wasn’t helped by having my first minimum wage (dishwasher at a steak house) check bounced, but I digress.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:58:03am

re: #191 freetoken

The other day, in discussing the new State of the Climate report and mentioning how it brought out the usual actors, I linked to an article in The Australian with the usual stream of denier comments and stupidness.

I noted that The Australian is indeed a Murdoch paper, though it’s hard to find his name attached to the publication on its websites.

Murdoch poisons everything and everywhere he goes, given his adeptness at exploiting hate in making money.

Anyway, The Australian is in the news today:

The Australian defends ‘insulting’ Bill Leak cartoon

Image: _90668798_fullsizerender.jpg

Wow that’s incredibly racist.

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teleskiguy  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:58:07am

re: #198 Archangelus

*Checks the local temps, then checks the calendar *

Anyone have a time machine? Three months in this damned heat is too damn long…

It’s been pretty fuckin’ hot lately. I’m at over 6,000 feet elevation and we’ve seen many 90°F+ days. Whitewater rafting season is rapidly coming to a close, sadly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:58:47am

re: #200 William Lewis

This is one of the things that pushed me into accepting Marxist economic analysis and especially the Labor Theory of Value.

Wasn’t helped by my first minimum wage (dishwasher at a steak house) check bounced, but I digress.

There is a social component to labor that goes beyond the market value, but that seems to bounce right off the heads of a party that promotes “family values” and “Free Market” without seeing any connection between the two.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:05:32am
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teleskiguy  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:08:56am

Yes, I am skiing backwards.

Instagram

Rare photo of the @teleskiguy in action on a trail named Lost Boy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:17:08am

Indulging in pleasant fantasies of how big of a landslide victory Clinton could win. As of last night, Nate Silver’s nowcast had increased Clinton’s odds of winning an election today to over 88%, making her the favorite in all the states Obama won, plus N.C., which would put her at 347-191. Az and Ga are now virtual toss-ups, putting another 27 electoral votes in play. Clinton is also within striking distance in Mo and SC, another 19 electoral votes. That makes for a potential 393-145 E.V. blowout, maybe even worse if the Trump campaign continues to be even half as bad as its been the last week.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:22:51am

re: #206 Big Beautiful Door

Indulging in pleasant fantasies of how big of a landslide victory Clinton could win. As of last night, Nate Silver’s nowcast had increased Clinton’s odds of winning an election today to over 88%, making her the favorite in all the states Obama won, plus N.C., which would put her at 347-191. Az and Ga are now virtual toss-ups, putting another 27 electoral votes in play. Clinton is also within striking distance in Mo and SC, another 19 electoral votes. That makes for a potential 393-145 E.V. blowout, maybe even worse if the Trump campaign continues to be even half as bad as its been the last week.

As much as I would love to see a monumental blowout that totally shuts down any claims that “the election was rigged”, one should never underestimate the power of the press to influence voters.

And any sort of natural and/or man-made disaster that sees law enforcement and basic services disrupted over a wide area or for a large population (especially a terrorist attack) would play right into DT’s hands…

We are not out of the woods yet.

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teleskiguy  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:30:39am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:32:27am
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Kragar  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:47:34am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:50:28am

re: #210 Kragar

NeverTrump Republicans want to know what they’ll “get” for supporting Clinton.

What you get is Donald Trump not in the White House.

You do realize that the worst thing that can happen to the GOP brand is a Trump Presidency. He will go down in history as the WORST PRESIDENT EVER, far surpassing Nixon, Calvin Coolidge, Andrew Johnson or James Buchanan, and your party will be damaged for generations.

Just bite the bullet, hunker down behind a wall of Hillary-bashing and try to recoup and recover for the mid-terms…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:53:39am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As much as I would love to see a monumental blowout that totally shuts down any claims that “the election was rigged”, one should never underestimate the power of the press to influence voters.

And any sort of natural and/or man-made disaster that sees law enforcement and basic services disrupted over a wide area or for a large population (especially a terrorist attack) would play right into DT’s hands…

We are not out of the woods yet.

I agree, Nate Silver’s more circumspect models still have this as a very competative race. But imagine if the Trump campaign continues to be about as bad as it appears. Plus Trump is beginning to lose the media; Morning Joe was accusing Trump of being a Democratic mole actually trying to detroy the GOP yesterday. Clinton, flush with cash, could fund a GOTV effort in states no Democratic presidential candidate has been able to win for decades, with virtually no countervailing GOTV effort by the Trump Campaign. This could significantly help down ballot Democrats, and maybe even deliver a slim House majority. I’d love it if Jim Gray could pull off an upset of Rand Paul here in Kentucky, for example.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:08:19am

re: #212 Big Beautiful Door

Plus Trump is beginning to lose the media; Morning Joe was accusing Trump of being a Democratic mole actually trying to detroy the GOP yesterday. .

The media are starting to learn that they can get as much mileage out of bashing Trump as then can out of fawning over him.

And Trump has failed to learn that the sort of outrageous statements that helped him with the base are not working with the general public.

I have faith in America’s basic sanity. After all, we elected Obama. Twice, even…

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:12:10am

re: #212 Big Beautiful Door

I agree, Nate Silver’s more circumspect models still have this as a very competetive race. But imagine if the Trump campaign continues to be about as bad as it appears. Plus Trump is beginning to lose the media; Morning Joe was accusing Trump if being a Democratic mole actually trying to detroy the GOP yesterday. Clinton, flush with cash, could fund a GOTV effort in states no Democratic presidential candidate has been able to win for decades, with virtually no countervailing GOTV effort by the Trump Campaign. This could significantly help down ballot Democrats, and maybe even deliver a slim House majority. I’d love it if Jim Gray could pull off an upset of Rand Paul here in Kentucky, for example.

I had typed up a response like this earlier but let it go because we all need to fight and beat the GOP so hard that it prompts them to take a hard look at how useful maintaining allegiance to their hateful racist base really is.

As I’ve said before I think Silver’s models are the most reactive of the Season because movement generates clicks. Nate Cohn and Sam Wang’s models are far more calm and reasonable because they’re each driven progressively less by advertising concerns.

The thing at the moment I think is going to be really fatal to Trump is that all these missteps are occurring right at the general election outset, a mere two weeks away from his convention, in what should be his most lucrative fundraising period. This is when he should be amassing a war chest for the fall yet he drastically underperforming Clinton’s July numbers, and that was before she picked up Warren Buffet and Meg Whitman. Trump also still shows zero indication of having a real GOTV infrastructure, he may have won the GOP primaries by sheer force of personality and by getting free media, which the GOP racist base ate up, but he still doesn’t get that there is an entirely new dynamic at play now. He doesn’t get that a winning general electorate is night and day different from his primary electorate. Whereas in comparison Clinton’s GOTV is established and proven, much of it represents sunk costs, meaning it costs her much less to reactivate resources than it will for Trump to try and create them from scratch. Her GOTV has also been tested against the Sander’s campaign, which was much more competitive, better funded and professional than anything Trump had to contend with.

The thing I’m really impressed with is Buffet making driving people to the polls his pet issue, that’s really cool. The fact the he’s not only donating but has promised to actually be out there driving people is the kind of inspirational thing that could palpably boost the vote in key areas.

Anyway the most important thing to keep in mind is that merely beating Trump isn’t enough, we need to beat the GOP en masse, and best them so bad that they’re ashamed to admit they ever supported him. We need to really force the Republican Party to examine how it goes forward after this, indeed IF it even goes forward. A permanent wedge has to be created between the merely selfish establishment, who at least in theory can be reasoned with, and the outright racist, hateful and ignorant base that they’ve catered to for so long.

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Danack  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:19:49am

Salacious but interesting:
Where Is Melania Trump?

If Melania is going to stop hitting the campaign trail that is going to be a significant drain on Trump’s limited physical and emotional resources.

Either he’s going to have to travel back to New York every day, or he’s going to have to spend significant time away from one of the few people who doesn’t want Trump to crash and burn.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:31:11am

re: #214 goddamnedfrank

I had typed up a response like this earlier but let it go because we all need to fight and beat the GOP so hard that it prompts them to take a hard look at how useful maintaining allegiance to their hateful racist base really is.

As I’ve said before I think Silver’s models are the most reactive of the Season because movement generates clicks. Nate Cohn and Sam Wang’s models are far more calm and reasonable because they’re each driven progressively less by advertising concerns.

The thing at the moment I think is going to be really fatal to Trump is that all these missteps are occurring right at the outset of what should be his most lucrative fundraising period. This is when he’s should be amassing a war chest for the fall yet he’s drastically underperforming Clinton, and that was before she picked up Warren Buffet and Meg Whitman. Trump also still show zero indication of having a real GOTV infrastructure, he won the GOP primaries by sheer force of personality and by getting free media which the GOP racist base ate up. Whereas Clinton’s GOTV is established and proven, much of it represents sunk cost. Her GOTV has also been tested against the Sander’s campaign, which was much more competitive, better funded and professional than anything Trump had to contend with.

The thing I’m really impressed with is Buffet making driving people to the polls his pet issue, that’s really cool. The fact the he’s not only donating but has promised to actually be out there driving people is the kind of inspirational thing that could palpably boost the vote in key areas.

Anyway the most important thing to keep in mind is that merely beating Trump isn’t enough, we need to beat the GOP en masse, and best them so bad that they’re ashamed to admit they ever supported him. We need to really force the Republican Party to examine how it goes forward after this, indeed IF it even goes forward. A permanent wedge has to be created between the merely selfish establishment, who at least in theory can be reasoned with, and the outright racist, hateful and ignorant base that they’ve catered to for so long.

That is more optimistic than I hope for. The GOP has painted itself into a corner. It has a base of older white voters who very dependably turn out in non-presidential election years. This approach has delivered smashing success to the GOP across the nation; it now holds more local, state and federal elective positions than probably at any time in its history (keeping in mind the country is much larger now than in the past). But the GOP’s pitch to those voters of hatred and fear of the “other” has made it toxic to young and minority voters, who appear to be set to deliver the White House to the Democrats for a third consecutive term. Party national committees have little power these days, and thus no ability to deter individual GOP office seekers from pushing the message of hate and fear which wins elections in gerrymandered congressional districts and off-year elections. In addition, even if the RNC attempted to pivot away from its racist base to young and minority voters, it has no policy proposals available to appeal to them. Telling them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps so that billionaires can have massive tax cuts isn’t a winning argument. So I forsee that for the time being the GOP is stuck depending on its racist base for years to come, until so many of them have died off that it can finally revamp itself into a party with completely different priorities which appeal to a different electorate. But from the GOP’s pov that isn’t so bad, because they are likely to continue to dominate in non-presidential election years and gerrymandered congressional districts for many years to come.

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Danack  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:33:06am

re: #214 goddamnedfrank

The thing at the moment I think is going to be really fatal to Trump is that all these missteps are occurring right at the outset of what should be his most lucrative fundraising period.

That wouldn’t matter so much if it wasn’t for the other misstep of deliberately pissing other Republicans off, by doing things like backing a primary challenger against the speaker of the house.

In the Republican primary, Trump was able to do all of the campaigning that was needed by himself, as the voting in states was staggered and there were relatively few campaign events, or voter drives needed.

The general election is a totally different beast. Hillary and Kaine are going to be doing events almost non-stop….as are all of their surrogates, supporters, congressional and senate candidates. All of those people will be working together to get each other elected.

Trump has basically only got Trump……and occasionally Pence is allowed to speak, but only if he gets permission first.

I really don’t think Trump is going to be physically capable of doing this every day for the next 3 months.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:35:23am

re: #215 Danack

Salacious but interesting:
Where Is Melania Trump?

If Melania is going to stop hitting the campaign trail that is going to be a significant drain on Trump’s limited physical and emotional resources.

Either he’s going to have to travel back to New York every day, or he’s going to have to spend significant time away from one of the few people who doesn’t want Trump to crash and burn.

Holy crap I’d never heard the rumor

that Mrs. Trump used to work as a high-end escort

. That’s news to me.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:36:41am

re: #217 Danack

That wouldn’t matter so much if it wasn’t for the other misstep of deliberately pissing other Republicans off, by doing things like backing a primary challenger against the speaker of the house.

In the Republican primary, Trump was able to do all of the campaigning that was needed by himself, as the voting in states was staggered and there were relatively few campaign events, or voter drives needed.

The general election is a totally different beast. Hillary and Kaine are going to be doing events almost non-stop….as are all of their surrogates, supporters, congressional and senate candidates. All of those people will be working together to get each other elected.

Trump has basically only got Trump……and occasionally Pence is allowed to speak, but only if he gets permission first.

I really don’t think Trump is going to be physically capable of doing this every day for the next 3 months.

I don’t either; he’ll likely be a physical wreck after a month and a half.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:37:05am

re: #215 Danack

Salacious but interesting:
Where Is Melania Trump?

If Melania is going to stop hitting the campaign trail that is going to be a significant drain on Trump’s limited physical and emotional resources.

Either he’s going to have to travel back to New York every day, or he’s going to have to spend significant time away from one of the few people who doesn’t want Trump to crash and burn.

I don’t know anything about this blogger, but knowing how freely vicious lies are spewed on the internet I’m not going to give the slightest credence to these attacks on Mrs. Trump without some credible confirmation.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:37:58am

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:44:15am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

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Erick son of Erick, quit holding back and tell us how you really feel about Trump and his supporters:

You people reflect the evil character of your god. You should be ashamed, but you have no shame left. You all deserve to be defeated and annihilated. You disgust me in cheering him on. He disgusts me.

On September 11, 2001, our NATO allies surrounded our nation and our nation’s interests globally while we buried our dead and you people cheer that braying jackass on ignorant of that fact and demanding money from our allies.

Donald Trump can go to hell and perhaps you will do the rest of us a favor and follow him there.

Shame on you all. Shame on you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:44:23am

re: #221 goddamnedfrank

It is clear that a lot of Republicans are simply not going to vote at all…they cannot bring themselves to vote for DT and HRC is also not an option.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:47:12am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is clear that a lot of Republicans are simply not going to vote at all…they cannot bring themselves to vote for DT and HRC is also not an option.

A significantly depressed GOP turnout holds the potential to deliver a House majority to the Democrats. If they also win a Senate majority, the Democrats need to have the guts to abolish or radically revise the filibuster rule so that they can actually get some decent legislation passed before the 2018 midterms.

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Ming5000  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:48:47am

re: #219 Dr Lizardo

I do not know that Trump is working that hard.
He is not working with the party on anything: strategy, funding, down-ticket.
He is not doing any policy study or development.
He is not managing a staff, or preparing plans for staffing should he win.
His rallies are lame repeats of extemporaneous talking points. His constant rehashing of hurts and revenge is probably healing to Trump.
Compare and contrast HRC an rally to a Trump rally. She is moving around the stage, energetic, engaged with the crowd. He stands at a podium.

So, in summary, I think he can keep doing this for as long as he wants to.

After watching the Trump Tampa rally I could discern no weakening or doubt in Trump. There was no slippage on message. It is still TRUMP.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:52:25am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is clear that a lot of Republicans are simply not going to vote at all…they cannot bring themselves to vote for DT and HRC is also not an option.

My operational mindset remains that anybody not voting for either is effectively condoning Trump’s explicit promises to commit ethnic cleansing and torture. You either actively oppose this shit or you own it. These are things I simply have no sense of humor about, and after this is all over whenever I hear eligible voters tell me they sat this one out, or wasted their vote on Johnson or Stein, I’m going to want to have nothing further to do with them. We should count ourselves lucky to be alive at this moment, given this chance to reject the clearest manifestation of outright racism in at least a generation. This may be the last opportunity American voters get to cast a vote rejecting such overt bigotry in a national election, so as far as I’m concerned anybody who blows it is trash.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:54:38am

re: #226 goddamnedfrank

My operational mindset remains that anybody not voting for either is effectively condoning Trump’s explicit promises to commit ethnic cleansing and torture. You either actively oppose this shit or you own it. .

We have to get people out en masse to vote Democratic. I think that it is clear to minorities and most women, but we have to make it clear that anyone with a stake in America’s future needs to make their voice heard.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:06:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:10:23am

Unfortunately, this election is going to herald the end of the GOP establishment and its total takeover by the extremists. Regardless of the fact that DT is their candidate, he will be the excuse they use to elect complete meatheads to Congress.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:23:08am

I’m confident of a HRC victory, but this morning CNN seems to be doing the “Trump got back on message with Iran attacks yesterday” and “massive fundraising gains for Trump” moves to try to keep Trump in view as a legit candidate.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:25:03am
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Alyosha  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:33:42am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unfortunately, this election is going to herald the end of the GOP establishment and its total takeover by the extremists. Regardless of the fact that DT is their candidate, he will be the excuse they use to elect complete meatheads to Congress.

If the refrain becomes ‘Trump wasn’t a true conservative’ and the best the base has to offer is Ted Cruz, I say let ‘em have at it.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:35:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:37:26am

The press and broadcast media have to keep the horse race going. So if Hillary is up by 8-10 points, they have to make a big news item about every time DT inches up by a few tenths of a percentage point (“If he keeps up this momentum….”)

It’s their job.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:39:36am

re: #198 Archangelus

*Checks the local temps, then checks the calendar *

Anyone have a time machine? Three months in this damned heat is too damn long…

We had snow here, twice. In the late 80s, I think, and again just a couple years ago.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:45:19am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The press and broadcast media have to keep the horse race going. SO if Hillary is up by 10 points, they have to make a big news item about every time DT inches up by a few tents of a percentage point (“If he keeps up this momentum….”)

It’s their job.

It’s all about the ratings, and of course, ratings = $$$. If they were report, “And in 2016 Election news, Donald Trump continues to have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting elected as President, and political analysts of all stripes are predicting a debacle for the GOP this November”, well…..no one’s really going to be interested in watching. Thus, the horse-race narrative.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:53:55am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

It’s all about the ratings, and of course, ratings = $$$. If they were report, “And in 2016 Election news, Donald Trump continues to have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting elected as President, and political analysts of all stripes are predicting a debacle for the GOP this November”, well…..no one’s really going to be interested in watching. Thus, the horse-race narrative.

The fact that Trump got as far as he did is in no small part due to the media’s fascination with him.

But I am glad to see that they are coming to realize that Trump is ratings gold regardless of whether they are raking him over the coals or fawning at his feet.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:03:52am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:06:09am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The fact that Trump got as far as he did is in no small part due to the media’s fascination with him.

But I am glad to see that they are coming to realize that Trump is ratings gold regardless of whether they are raking him over the coals or fawning at his feet.

Yeah, it seems the media’s woke up to the fact that even negative coverage of Trump still = ad revenue.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:17:56am

Using a crude assessment of aggregated polls, wonks, and betting markets shows Trump realistically at 1 chance in 4 of winning this thing.

Wife and I have voter registration drives (in the wrong damn state) for the next two weekends. We’re still running scared.

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Archangelus  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:19:07am

OT question: Has anyone seen a new show called Stranger Things and is it really as good as I’ve heard from some folks I know (whose judgement concerning TV shows i typically question)?

I ask because having been burnt too much by TV shows that ended up badly or were cancelled without a proper ending, I’m far more strict with what I’m willing to start watching nowadays…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:20:11am

re: #241 Archangelus

OT question: Has anyone seen a new show called Stranger Things and is it really as good as I’ve heard from some folks I know?

I ask because having been burnt too much by TV shows that ended up badly or were cancelled without a proper ending, I’m far more strict with what I’m willing to start watching nowadays…

I have heard good things about it, but my taste is also rather personal…never got into Game of Thrones of Breaking Bad. For that I got into Walking Dead (but have given up on it since the last season) and ditto with Peaky Blinders.

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Archangelus  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:24:35am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have heard good things about it, but my taste is also rather personal…never got into Game of Thrones of Breaking Bad.

A shame on both accounts, but I can understand that.
I found the first few episodes of Breaking Bad almost unbearable at first and it took convincing on the part of one of my friends to get me to watch the rest (glad I did), and being a fan of the ASOIAF books, I expected yet another terrible adaptation from among a host of terrible adaptations when the show was announced and didn’t watch the first myself season when it came out…

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harlequinade  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:27:37am

re: #241 Archangelus

It is.

It’s 8 episodes and doesn’t need a season 2. If you like 80s/90s horror shows, or Steven King books, then this is for you. It’s a love letter to that era, so it’s modern retro.

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ipsos  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:27:48am

Good morning Lizardim!

Poking out of my shell to take on Thursday…and trying to imagine what sort of insanity will emerge from Team Trump today.

I fully expect him to be biting the head off a live bat on stage before the week is out. (Followed promptly by McCain saying he’ll still vote for him, of course. )

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:29:41am

re: #245 ipsos

Good morning Lizardim!

Poking out of my shell to take on Thursday…and trying to imagine what sort of insanity will emerge from Team Trump today.

I fully expect him to be biting the head off a live bat on stage before the week is out. (Followed promptly by McCain saying he’ll still vote for him, of course. )

He will rip the arm off a baby, stuff an apple into its hand and declare this is what he is protecting White American Womanhood against.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:42:53am

Morning Lizards. Someone is going to be looking for a new job.

Missouri Governor cuts budget of Public Defenders, is then appointed to be public defender

He used Section 600.042.5, which “gives the Director of the Public Defender System the authority to delegate the legal representation of any person to any member of the state bar of Missouri,” according to the letter.

Punchline? Governor Jay Nixon is a lawyer. In Missouri. Can you guess where this leads?

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Danack  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:03:45am

re: #220 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t know anything about this blogger, but knowing how freely vicious lies are spewed on the internet I’m not going to give the slightest credence to these attacks on Mrs. Trump without some credible confirmation.

Ok, but I think this line of inquiry is worth following up:

If only because of Trump’s anti-immigrant and pro-white discrimination policies.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:07:11am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:09:46am

re: #247 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. Someone is going to be looking for a new job.

Missouri Governor cuts budget of Public Defenders, is then appointed to be public defender

He used Section 600.042.5, which “gives the Director of the Public Defender System the authority to delegate the legal representation of any person to any member of the state bar of Missouri,” according to the letter.

Punchline? Governor Jay Nixon is a lawyer. In Missouri. Can you guess where this leads?

That’s trolling at the D. Juris level.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:11:42am

GOP lackey Mark Halperin just said on the MSNBC, with a straight face, Trump “isn’t out of the race yet”. He needs to join Trump’s intervention.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:12:16am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

GOP rep. won’t vote for Trump: He’s crossed “a lot of red lines” (VIDEO)

expect this trickle to turn into a flood as GOP candidates scramble to save themselves from association with DT

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:18:02am

re: #251 Dr. Matt

GOP lackey Mark Halperin just said on the MSNBC, with a straight face, Trump “isn’t out of the race yet”. He needs to join Trump’s intervention.

Trump is far from out of the race, but I’m glad they’re thinking that way so early.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:18:23am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

expect this trickle to turn into a flood as GOP candidates scramble to save themselves from association with DT

I give it a few weeks; by the end of this month to the middle of next month. A lot of that depends on how long Trump can manage the near-miraculous feat of keeping his mouth shut and not spewing some outrageous bullshit. Given that it’s Trump we’re talking about, my timeline would seem appropriate.

Heh….maybe even sooner.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:19:34am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

expect this trickle to turn into a flood as GOP candidates scramble to save themselves from association with DT

A Georgia Republican is threatening to not vote for Donald Trump

“I have the right to vote for a write-in candidate in the electoral college,” Baoky Vu, an elector, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution Wednesday.

Georgia is one of 21 states that do not require its electors to follow the results of its popular vote, according to the paper.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:20:23am

re: #241 Archangelus

I burned thru in 2 days. It was entertaining but predictable. Don’t let that stop you.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:20:39am

re: #222 Big Beautiful Door

Erick son of Erick, quit holding back and tell us how you really feel about Trump and his supporters:

But he can’t bring himself to vote for Hillary because THINK OF ALL TEH UNBORNED BABBIES!!!11!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:22:51am

That seekrit airplane with all the moneys? B-roll.

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ipsos  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:24:54am

re: #255 Dr. Matt

Unfaithful electors!

Damn… we’re hitting every plot point imaginable in this crazy season. The writers won’t have much left for 2020 the way they’re going.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:25:34am

re: #255 Dr. Matt

Georgia is one of 21 states that do not require its electors to follow the results of its popular vote, according to the paper.

more proof that the election is rigged!

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Dr. Matt  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:27:53am

re: #259 ipsos

Unfaithful electors!

Damn… we’re hitting every plot point imaginable in this crazy season. The writers won’t have much left for 2020 the way they’re going.

Trump is correct on one point….he is a uniter. He’s uniting everyone to not vote for him.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:28:34am

Fun fact: The first valid 2016 presidential ballots will be cast as early as 54 days from now.

ncsl.org

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Alyosha  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:35:10am

Cherry-picked bias-confirming tweets just for my own sense of smug satisfaction:

A wee bio.
politico.com
If political panic looks anything like a disease outbreak then he might be onto something.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:35:46am

Let me say this: DT has a few (isolated) points:

We need comprehensive immigration reform, That includes restricting physical access to the US, which entails building (at least some lengths of) a wall

We need to renegotiate trade deals that disadvantage US workers, especially with countries whose environmental and worker protection laws are weak or unenforced.
But not unilaterally or overnight

We need to renegotiate our alliances with NATO and especially with Saudi Arabia…but not unilaterally and not overnight.

And we need to get those babies outta here, they are annoying as hell!!!

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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:37:20am

Fucking anti-vaccers running wild down in Richmond:

A sea of red overwhelmed a meeting of the General Assembly’s Joint Commission on Health Care on Wednesday after protesters came out in droves to oppose possible plans to restrict exemptions to otherwise mandatory immunizations for school-age children.

The commission was not voting or making any immediate decisions on the exemptions, nor was it accepting public comments.

It did, however, hear from interested parties and its staff regarding a proposal killed during the most recent General Assembly session that would have removed religious and medical exemptions as legitimate reasons for children not to receive immunizations before attending school.

The commission is studying the state’s vaccine requirements and is expected to make recommendations that may be considered during next year’s assembly session.

The opponents of the failed bill — mostly wearing red in solidarity at Wednesday’s meeting — consisted largely of mothers with infants, toddlers or adolescents. They were there not only to show their opposition but also to support Barbara Loe Fisher, president of the National Vaccine Information Center, a Sterling-based organization opposed to mandatory vaccinations.

richmond.com

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Dr. Matt  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:38:19am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Megyn Kelly has some sort of vascular problem whereby she bleeds from all of her orifices.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:38:39am

re: #215 Danack

Salacious but interesting:
Where Is Melania Drumpf?

If Melania is going to stop hitting the campaign trail that is going to be a significant drain on Drumpf’s limited physical and emotional resources.

Either he’s going to have to travel back to New York every day, or he’s going to have to spend significant time away from one of the few people who doesn’t want Drumpf to crash and burn.

He’s probably going to do that anyway, since that’s how he’s accustomed to doing things in his world of Big Important Business Meetings - and his apparent obsession with keeping up appearances of how filthy rich he is.

Good. A further drain on limited resources, because you know he’s going to insist that his expenses get covered first, which will divert money from campaign necessities like ad buys and ground support.

And if Melania told him she was going to sit out the campaign, even better. There won’t be anyone out there contributing in even a small way to humanize his asshole personality or the general dislikeability of his staff.

Win-win. Despite the RNC’s most fervent hopes and prayers, that campaign will continue to be a rolling sausage fest and asshole convention. Not gonna help.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:39:03am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a lot of talk about “the dignity of labor” and the social value it provides, remember Ronnie Reagan’s “The best social program you can offer someone is a job”?

American culture is still imbued (whether correctly or through some other machination) with the Protestant work-ethic. A day in the field makes you a better person with gawd. The Protestant morality ethic, hence the US’s backwards views on sexuality and many other aspects of religious culture that were brought over by the early settlers. And, more specifically, the controlling aspects of life that the leaders of those settlers imbued in their communities.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:40:42am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

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But…but…he’ll pivot to the General ANY DAY NOW!!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:45:25am

re: #241 Archangelus

OT question: Has anyone seen a new show called Stranger Things and is it really as good as I’ve heard from some folks I know (whose judgement concerning TV shows i typically question)?

I ask because having been burnt too much by TV shows that ended up badly or were cancelled without a proper ending, I’m far more strict with what I’m willing to start watching nowadays…

I enjoyed it; its kind of got a Speilberg/Stephen King eighties vibe, and the season one story arc was basically wrapped up in the finale, so even if there is no season 2 (and I bet there will be) it doesn’t really leave you hanging.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:48:55am

re: #222 Big Beautiful Door

Erick son of Erick, quit holding back and tell us how you really feel about Drumpf and his supporters:

Gotta give him props for standing his ground. I wold have thought he’d have caved and jumped on the train with the rest of them by now.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:49:11am

re: #255 Dr. Matt

I’m hearing now that this elector has stepped down. Now, if this is true, we could end up with a for Trump vote anyhow. I’ve got my eye on this one.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:49:16am

re: #247 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. Someone is going to be looking for a new job.

Missouri Governor cuts budget of Public Defenders, is then appointed to be public defender

He used Section 600.042.5, which “gives the Director of the Public Defender System the authority to delegate the legal representation of any person to any member of the state bar of Missouri,” according to the letter.

Punchline? Governor Jay Nixon is a lawyer. In Missouri. Can you guess where this leads?

BRILLIANT!

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ozharas  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:49:28am

‘It’s pretty small’: Trump’s left hand on display for all to judge in New York”

theguardian.com

This paragraph tells me how much thin-skinned Trump is:

“The controversy over the size of Trump’s hands dates back to the 1980s, when journalist Graydon Carter referred to the billionaire as a “short-fingered vulgarian” in Spy magazine. In 2015 Carter revealed that Trump has been sporadically sending him pictures of his hands for the last 25 years, insisting they are not as small as Carter made out.”

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:53:38am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As much as I would love to see a monumental blowout that totally shuts down any claims that “the election was rigged”, one should never underestimate the power of the press to influence voters.

And any sort of natural and/or man-made disaster that sees law enforcement and basic services disrupted over a wide area or for a large population (especially a terrorist attack) would play right into DT’s hands…

We are not out of the woods yet.

Obama needs to be on top of his game from now till November. I am confident that he is way ahead of me in realizing this though.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:54:25am

re: #257 The Vicious Babushka

But he can’t bring himself to vote for Hillary because THINK OF ALL TEH UNBORNED BABBIES!!!11!!!!

New Fox News poll shows 12% of GOP voters saying they will vote for Hillary. That could climb even higher by election day.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:56:00am

re: #247 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. Someone is going to be looking for a new job.

Missouri Governor cuts budget of Public Defenders, is then appointed to be public defender

He used Section 600.042.5, which “gives the Director of the Public Defender System the authority to delegate the legal representation of any person to any member of the state bar of Missouri,” according to the letter.

Punchline? Governor Jay Nixon is a lawyer. In Missouri. Can you guess where this leads?

Hopefully he also starts assigning cases to members of the state legislature.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:56:45am

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

All these specimens of the “Aryan Master Race” are such ugly little shitgoblins

It’s tragic what crystal meth does to a person.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:56:47am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…., he will be the excuse they use to elect complete meatheads to Congress.

Or, as Ell from Stranger Things refers to people she dislikes/finds irritating — Mouth breathers, with extreme disdain.

ed-not really sure how I managed to mess that up that severely with a link back to the start of the page

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:59:34am

re: #278 sizzzzlerz

It’s tragic what crystal meth does to a person.

My first hought upon seeing that photo of weev was ‘For an Aryan superman, he sure is a doughy motherfucker.’

They sure don’t make Aryan supermen like they used to back in the day.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:59:35am

re: #271 makeitstop

Gotta give him props for standing his ground. I wold have thought he’d have caved and jumped on the train with the rest of them by now.

I think a whole lot of GOPers are going to be jumping off the Trump Train over the next few weeks.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:02:00am

re: #277 Timothy Watson

Hopefully he also starts assigning cases to members of the state legislature.

And then accuse them of attempting to double dip as they are already being payed by the State when they want to be paid for it.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:02:04am

re: #255 Dr. Matt

A Georgia Republican is threatening to not vote for Donald Trump

“I have the right to vote for a write-in candidate in the electoral college,” Baoky Vu, an elector, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution Wednesday.

Georgia is one of 21 states that do not require its electors to follow the results of its popular vote, according to the paper.

I can certainly understand the sentiment but the perceived integrity of the process must be maintained. Vu needs to go ahead and cast his vote for Trump if that’s how the vote goes. This is especially so with the Trumpsters tuning up to a massive claim of cheating, and threatening a “bloodbath,” if they lose.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:05:18am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

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We can see the Trump effect dragging down other GOPers; new poll shows Hassan with a 10 point lead over Ayotte. Her gutless straddle of voting for Trump but not “endorsing” him has bit her in the ass.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:06:48am

re: #73 teleskiguy

Paying better wages means that the company is more likely to retain qualified talent and that means that HR doesn’t have to spend as much on training new workers to do the jobs of those that have quit or moved on to other positions.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:11:56am

Hey Li’l Whiplash, the “Leftist” party is not the one that nominated this monster

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:12:42am

re: #268 Le Lapin Tueur

American culture is still imbued (whether correctly or through some other machination) with the Protestant work-ethic. A day in the field makes you a better person with gawd. The Protestant morality ethic, hence the US’s backwards views on sexuality and many other aspects of religious culture that were brought over by the early settlers. And, more specifically, the controlling aspects of life that the leaders of those settlers imbued in their communities.

A day in the field means a day that you are not out drinking, whoring, gambling or fighting, because that is just what you would be doing if you were not out working yourself to the point of exhaustion.

That is Bible-Belt morality in a nutshell.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:14:32am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Another glorious day here with low humidity and perfect blue skies.

Of course, that means that the Trump nuts are out in force. They can’t stand that the media is finally getting around to vetting Trump and catching his personal history in a web of lies and deceit.

For instance, today we’ve got reports that Melania’s journey to the US isn’t nearly as clear cut as she had claimed. I know, shocking, right?

This wouldn’t be nearly as important if Trump weren’t running for President on a nativist pledge to build walls and deport those who are in the country illegally, but here we have Trump’s wife who may have done the very thing that Trump would deport others for doing.

But as always, that’s likely going to be the least outrageous thing we’ll learn today from the Trump campaign.

Manafort’s trying to do damage control this morning, and he’s reciting Katrina Pierson history in claiming Capt. Khan’s death was the result of Obama-Clinton policies, despite being killed in action in 2004, which is years before either was in a position to actually impose a policy.

Then again, the white supremacist/bigot brigade wants proof that Trump’s a bigot?

I’m not making idle assertions about Trump’s ties and repeated entreaties to the white supremacists and bigot brigade. It’s well documented (as I’m preaching to the choir). These Trump fans who want to ignore the facts are deluding themselves (or simply don’t care).

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:16:50am

And as the Olympics gets underway this week (in what’s guaranteed to be a shit show, in part due to water that’s not fit to be near), a friendly reminder about what goes on in the shadows of the sports world:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:22:21am

re: #289 lawhawk

And as the Olympics gets underway this week (in what’s guaranteed to be a shit show, in part due to water that’s not fit to be near), a friendly reminder about what goes on in the shadows of the sports world:

I am gonna let these games slide past me without a notice.

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nines09  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:22:56am

Good day everyone. I do not know if this was posted or not. You have to be insane to even consider a “person” like Trump being anywhere near power. With his record, you can see the results. Him on a world stage? Holding true power? Shaping the future? You see the rats who buy his cheese. You see the panic in the half sane GOP. And I assume you heard about On Wednesday’s Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough claimed Donald Trump asked a “foreign policy expert” who was advising him numerous times about “why can’t we use nuclear weapons.”

Or maybe not. That was enough to make one sit up. No fan of Joe. Is it true? Why would he lie, and if it was Trump would be screaming his Cheeto head off. Wasn’t Joe fond of Trump at one time? How long did he keep this under his hat?

But then I stumbled across this. John Noonan on Trump and nukes
National security advisor for Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney has some thoughts

Remember sitting in grade school with your head between your knees, under the desk, as we all played “Here comes the Atomic Bomb?” I do. Remember Fallout Shelters? I do. Remember Earth and the Human Race? Any GOP voter with any sense of humanity has to come to grips with the stark reality that their party has allowed a Donald Trump to be in a position of life and death. Life. Death.

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:22:58am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

Hey Li’l Whiplash, the “Leftist” party is not the one that nominated this monster

They’re trying to absolve themselves of responsibility for Trump. Sorry, Ben, you own the monster.

Also, they’re trying to make it so that Clinton didn’t win, Trump lost.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:26:32am

re: #292 Belafon

They’re trying to absolve themselves of responsibility for Trump. Sorry, Ben, you own the monster.

Also, they’re trying to make it so that Clinton didn’t win, Trump lost.

That will be their narrative. Nate Silver’s nowcast just updated, presumably incorporating the devastating new polls this morning. Trump’s chances of victory if the election was today dropped to 10.4%

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:27:45am

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

That seekrit airplane with all the moneys? B-roll.

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Morning!

Today’s big watch word: RANSOM

You know in many ways Trump is like a skunk. You get around him, he gets scared (polls going south) or threatened (they hit me…) and then he lets go with the ass glads producing noxious rants that smell bad and last a long time once he has left the area.

Really, that is his tactic. He knows he is spewing crap that has no basis in fact. He creates a putrid outrage with them and wants them to last in the minds of the wingnut that will never check the real facts but instead will go to the other skunks for confirmation that yes, this all smells bad.

The whole Iran thing is the latest foul smell he has released and even the Republican Congress folks like “Cotton” Cotton and “Little Marco” Rubio are smelling the outrage and banging on it most likely in an effort to push Trump and some of their own runs.

Worst thing about The Donald…that smell is going to last a long time, possibly way after the elections. Trump will create more outrage over the election and the rest of the Republican skunks will keep up the spraying all over Clinton should she win.

They’re all skunks I tell ya. Skunks!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:28:11am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

Hey Li’l Whiplash, the “Leftist” party is not the one that nominated this monster

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Typical of him. Trump’s not a leftist idiot. There’s a big difference between right wing populist rhetoric and leftism. Maybe if BW wasn’t so into confirmation bias, he’d realize and also no leftist would even consider Mike Pence for a running mate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:28:15am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:29:41am

538’s article today is about Trump dragging down Senate incumbents with him. I think he will do that. And you know what, I don’t have any sympathy for any of them especially guys like McCain who try to have it both ways.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:29:47am

re: #294 ObserverArt

Morning!

Today’s big watch word: RANSOM

Actually, it’s probably going to be TERROR! FEAR!

LONDON (AP) — A man who stabbed an American woman to death and injured five other people in London’s Russell Square is a Norwegian of Somali origin, police said Thursday. They said they have found no signs of radicalization as a motive.

Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said the investigation “increasingly points to this tragic incident as having been triggered by mental-health issues.”

“So far we have found no evidence of radicalization or anything that would suggest the man in our custody was motivated by terrorism,” Rowley said.

He said the woman who died was American, and the five injured people are British, American, Israeli and Australian. None had life-threatening injuries. Two remain in a hospital, while three others have been discharged.

Rowley said it appeared to be a “spontaneous attack and that the victims were selected at random.” Detectives from the force’s murder and terrorism squads interviewed the suspect, his family and witnesses and searched several properties, and found no evidence of radicalization, he said.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:30:18am

re: #297 Dr. Matt

FLASHBACK: Conservatives cheer elimination of Chicago’s Olympic bid

I do remember that. They really hate Chicago that much.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:31:39am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

I do remember that. They really hate Chicago that much.

That and cheering this as an Obama defeat since Obama personally flew to Copenhagen to lobby IOC members on behalf of Chicago’s bid. Low-life losers.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:32:05am

re: #269 Blind Frog Belly White

But…but…he’ll pivot to the General ANY DAY NOW!!!

Oh, he has pivoted all right. He has gotten even more insane.

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jeffreyw  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:33:10am

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Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:33:27am

re: #301 Dr. Matt

That and cheering this as an Obama defeat since Obama personally flew to Copenhagen to lobby IOC members on behalf of Chicago’s bid. Low-life losers.

Right.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:34:07am

re: #302 ObserverArt

Oh, he has pivoted all right. He has gotten even more insane.

Probably will get even more erratic as we get closer to the GE.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:35:36am
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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:36:00am

re: #297 Dr. Matt

Still think that there should be permanent homes for the Games - Athens for Summer and Switzerland for the Winter.

No need to send them all over the planet building venues that will fall into disuse the moment the games depart. We see it happen after every Games.

Spending billions on one-shots that will disappear the moment the Games end. It does little to boost the economy either.

I get tying Games bids to building new infrastructure (railroads, light rail, airport improvements, etc.) but those should be done without the need for a Games to push them through.

Priorities…

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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:37:14am
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Jay C  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:38:54am

re: #294 ObserverArt

I have a feeling that if the Iranian “payoff” flap had been about any country other than Iran, the story would have died in a day or so, if it had had any “legs” to begin with. However, Iran is still the Axis Of Evil/ Designated Boogeyman for a lot of folks in government (like grandstanding Senators), so anything they can whip up about Scary Muslims - however much of a nothingburger - is going to get milked for maximum effect.

I still think the best thing for the Administration to do would be to point out that the Iran payment was in fulfillment of the terms of a negotiated contract: and how much that contrasts with Donald Trump’s approach to business..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:40:08am

To me, “…Ryan is also running against somebody who’s not going to win…” is the weirdest thing in Manafort’s comment.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:42:16am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

Please to explain the “Obama, you’re fired” quote on the woman’s shirt (right side) in the Photo. Obama was anything but fired. Successfully completed two terms and is leaving with an incredibly high favorability rating.

These people are quite delusional. He says preaching to knowing.

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:42:16am

re: #309 Jay C

I have a feeling that if the Iranian “payoff” flap had been about any country other than Iran, the story would have died in a day or so, if it had had any “legs” to begin with. However, Iran is still the Axis Of Evil/ Designated Boogeyman for a lot of folks in government (like grandstanding Senators), so anything they can whip up about Scary Muslims - however much of a nothingburger - is going to get milked for maximum effect.

I still think the best thing for the Administration to do would be to point out that the Iran payment was in fulfillment of the terms of a negotiated contract: and how much that contrasts with Donald Trump’s approach to business..

Someone’s going to need to challenge people on why they can’t remember something that was talked about 6 months ago.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:45:21am

re: #297 Dr. Matt

Here’s what I don’t get. Why not build an International Olympic Complex and then hold the games there every year? (I know, it’s about sucking money away from a country’s resources, but you’d think people would wise the hell up by now with this shit) Bad construction or venues doomed to be obsolete after the games seem to be the norm here. The IOC is a corrupt mess, and honestly, it’s really time to re-evaluate the whole thing. The Husband was telling me he had read on some sports site he visits (I am not about the sports ball and things of that nature) that medal winners actually have to pay for the privledge. And then there the matter of what happens to athletes once they get hurt, suffer permanent damage or retire. Not everyone gets big endorsement deals and a large payday. Sports seems to be a thing where a lot of people get tossed away like trash when they are no longer deemed useful. Maybe we should look at that, even if there is an outcry and whining about it.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:46:03am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Manafort’s running a shit show and he knows it. He’s admitting that Trump isn’t interested in the primaries or the basics of politics. He doesn’t get or care that the GOP success hinges on maintaining an advantage in the House in numbers. Presidential candidates have to support down ticket races in order to get their agenda’s adopted.

He simply cares about only winning the presidency. Doesn’t care about next steps.

Meanwhile, Hillary’s busy not only reaching out to the GOP in states like Colorado so that she can win in November, but is doing the heavy lifting on preparing what comes next. She’s working to build the Democratic party by helping down ticket races.

That’s the critical thing in order to do everything from getting judicial nominees confirmed to passing budgets and the regular order of business. It also means the end to the GOP obstructionism.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:46:53am

re: #311 Le Lapin Tueur

Please to explain the “Obama, you’re fired” quote on the woman’s shirt (right side) in the Photo. Obama was anything but fired. Successfully completed two terms and is leaving with an incredibly high favorability rating.

These people are quite delusional. He says preaching to knowing.

Taht to me fits the uninformed and don’t know they’re uninformed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:49:50am

re: #314 lawhawk

He simply cares about only winning the presidency. Doesn’t care about next steps.

Kind of makes this bit from his rally last night even more interesting:

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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:49:59am

re: #313 A Mom Anon

I know, it’s about sucking money away from a country’s resources, but you’d think people would wise the hell up by now with this shit

Politicians and government leaders are notoriously stupid the world over.

Every year you have a bunch of stupid city leaders trying to get the next open Super Bowl spot despite it costing the city more than it brings in. And then you have cities and counties cutting huge checks for businesses (not just sports-related of course) that cost the jurisdiction more than the business will ever bring it.

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:52:24am

re: #314 lawhawk

Manafort’s running a shit show and he knows it. He’s admitting that Trump isn’t interested in the primaries or the basics of politics. He doesn’t get or care that the GOP success hinges on maintaining an advantage in the House in numbers. Presidential candidates have to support down ticket races in order to get their agenda’s adopted.

He simply cares about only winning the presidency. Doesn’t care about next steps.

Meanwhile, Hillary’s busy not only reaching out to the GOP in states like Colorado so that she can win in November, but is doing the heavy lifting on preparing what comes next. She’s working to build the Democratic party by helping down ticket races.

That’s the critical thing in order to do everything from getting judicial nominees confirmed to passing budgets and the regular order of business. It also means the end to the GOP obstructionism.

If he wins, people will throw flowers at his feet. That’s all he needs to know.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:52:42am

To nobody’s surprise, the top French fascist joins Putin and Kim Jong Un among Trump’s overseas supporters.

Far-right French politician Marion Le Pen endorses Trump: He’s less harmful than Clinton

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:53:18am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

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Well, I guess that all makes more sense than my “brains hijacked by baby spiders” theory.

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sagehen  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:54:04am

re: #303 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Here you go again, sending me off to Zabar’s for an entirely different dinner tonight than what I’d been thinking of…

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:54:49am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kind of makes this bit from his rally last night even more interesting:

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RCP shows Trump “ahead” in Florida by one-third of a point, within the MOE. 538 gives HIllary 83.5% chance of taking Florida.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:55:10am

re: #313 A Mom Anon

Here’s what I don’t get. Why not build an International Olympic Complex and then hold the games there every year? (I know, it’s about sucking money away from a country’s resources, but you’d think people would wise the hell up by now with this shit) Bad construction or venues doomed to be obsolete after the games seem to be the norm here.

It’s the Renfest model. We have a location here in MD and I know they are all over the country. Renfest comes once a year to an already constructed venue. “They” put on the show. The tourists come and are entertained. Six weeks later the entertainers pack up and go home or migrate to another Cosplay event. As they need more space, somebody pays to have it built.

It would be an excellent model for the Olympics. There could even be different rotating locations. I know it’s been brought up on the ‘net in places. I have no idea if the idea has ever made progress in RL. Think of all the graft that would disappear.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:55:37am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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To me, “…Ryan is also running against somebody who’s not going to win…” is the weirdest thing in Manafort’s comment.

The thing that continues to strike me about Trump’s campaign staff is how completely dour they all are.

Think about it - from the candidate himself to Manafort and that dork who opened the show in Daytona yesterday, to Katie Bullets and Omarosa, there’s a complete lack of humor. They’re approaching the campaign as a grim task like recovering victims from a plane crash. No sense of celebration, no positive vision - just blame, fear, resentment.

I believe that over time it’s going to push undecideds away rather than attract them. They’ve already got the fear junkies on board, but most humans are by nature optimistic.

Not in Camp Trump, though. No smiling allowed, by order of Upper Management.

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sagehen  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:56:23am

re: #307 lawhawk

Still think that there should be permanent homes for the Games - Athens for Summer and Switzerland for the Winter.

No need to send them all over the planet building venues that will fall into disuse the moment the games depart. We see it happen after every Games.

Except Los Angeles. LA built one venue in 1932 that’s seen plenty of use since then, the rest of the venues are things that were already there and regularly full. For the 1984 games, they didn’t have to build a single thing, and they turned a profit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:58:34am

Judd Legum discounts the Trump nuke report from Morning Joe but says there is plenty of other evidence that Trump could launch nukes on a bad hair day

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Jay C  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:59:12am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, it’s probably going to be TERROR! FEAR!

This is actually MY big fear for the near-future: incompetent buffoon as Donald Trump is, practically his last remaining “positive” in the public mind (the general public, anyway not his cultish true-believers) is his “tough” policies on immigration - i.e. quick to whip up anti-Muslim hatred as a campaign tactic, and equally quick to blame “lax immigration policies” for putting the public at risk for all sorts of dangers. I recall the disgusting reaction of some rightwing sickos (Ann Coulter in particular, I think) who were positively gleeful at the news of the Bataclan theater attacks in Paris, as this “proved their point” about Evil Islamism (as if anyone outside ISIL was defending it!), and that this would “secure Trump’s election”. I shudder to think of what the reaction might be if there were a Bataclan- or San Bernardino-style* terror attack (or, God forbid, something worse) in the middle of this Presidential campaign. Especially if Trump and the GOP are still lagging badly…

*interesting thought: for all the hoopla about the SB shootings, it seems to have vanished right off the radar (except, of course, at Trump rallies) - was there ever any further “plot” uncovered? Or were Faruk and Malik just another case of unhinged folie a deux (with assault weapons)?

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Skip Intro  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:59:26am

re: #292 Belafon

They’re trying to absolve themselves of responsibility for Trump. Sorry, Ben, you own the monster.

Also, they’re trying to make it so that Clinton didn’t win, Trump lost.

Once a Breitbart liar always a Breitbart liar. The master asshole trained them well.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:59:35am

re: #317 Timothy Watson

I’m in Atlanta, we’re building not one but two new stadiums. One for the Braves, one for the Falcons. Turner Field, the old Braves venue is less than 20 years old. So, in addition to a waste, the old area will be gentrified and made into godknowswhat and push more poor and middle class people out. (there are a lot of houses built in the 70s and before in that area) I live fairly close to the new Braves location, and it’s going to be a traffic nightmare forever. They keep talking about all the jobs the new complex will bring. Yeah, service jobs that pay nothing with no benefits. Yay.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:00:07am

re: #325 sagehen

Except Los Angeles. LA built one venue in 1932 that’s seen plenty of use since then, the rest of the venues are things that were already there and regularly full. For the 1984 games, they didn’t have to build a single thing, and they turned a profit.

And Munich. It is still used.

But I agree: one permanent location at least for the summer games, in Athens.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:00:10am

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

RCP shows Trump “ahead” in Florida by one-third of a point, within the MOE. 538 gives HIllary 83.5% chance of taking Florida.

Looking at 538’s nowcast model, Clinton could win a massive landslide, as states no Democrat has won in decades are coming into play. This could lead to a Democratic takeover of Congress as well.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:01:43am

re: #325 sagehen

That’s true. There’s a number of Games whose venues are still in use. The 1984 Games were one of the few to turn an actual profit, mostly because they reused the venues from the earlier Games, including the LA Coliseum.

SLC was another successful Games, and most of the venues were repurposed and SLC’s reputation was greatly enhanced by the Games. Atlanta’s Games were somewhat successful as were the Lake Placid Games.

London’s venues were repurposed, and the infrastructure gains were tremendous.

Barcelona and Turin were less so. Beijing spent billions, and most of the venues are now rotting away. Sochi was a disaster. Rio’s heading in that same trajectory.

Don’t see the upcoming Games being much better.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:01:58am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, it’s probably going to be TERROR! FEAR!

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That is a constant. I went with ransom as it is a child of terror and fear. Here we are paying off our enemy that takes hostages and lend terrorists support.

And ransom is a fresh word for this election…so add it to the list under terror which will remain at the top.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:03:30am

re: #293 Big Beautiful Door

That will be their narrative. Nate Silver’s nowcast just updated, presumably incorporating the devastating new polls this morning. Trump’s chances of victory if the election was today dropped to 10.4%

Way too high.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:03:45am

re: #329 A Mom Anon

I’m in Atlanta, we’re building not one but two new stadiums. One for the Braves, one for the Falcons. Turner Field, the old Braves venue is less than 20 years old. So, in addition to a waste, the old area will be gentrified and made into godknowswhat and push more poor and middle class people out. (there are a lot of houses built in the 70s and before in that area) I live fairly close to the new Braves location, and it’s going to be a traffic nightmare forever. They keep talking about all the jobs the new complex will bring. Yeah, service jobs that pay nothing with no benefits. Yay.

Turner Field was one of the Atlanta Games venues, and the Braves wanted a new suburban stadium because they didn’t want some folks to have access to the ballpark. So, they’ve built it away from downtown, in a place inaccessible by mass transit, and puts local taxpayers on the hook for a new stadium that enriches the ownership and screws taxpayers again.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:04:36am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

I do remember that. They really hate Chicago that much.

Speaking of Chi-town…has the Dark one been around since the revelation of his tweet the other day about three-c Hillary?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:05:22am

re: #336 ObserverArt

Speaking of Chi-town…has the Dark one been around since the revelation of his tweet the other day about three-c Hillary?

Haven’t seen him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:05:37am

re: #334 Decatur Deb

Way too high.

I believe Trump’s discovering that there really IS such a thing as Bad Publicity.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:05:53am

These are supposedly Trump’s supporters and advisers:

They’re all fighting with each other.

This is funny because it’s likely true (even if it’s coming from one of the enablers on the right in Podhoretz):

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:06:52am

re: #336 ObserverArt

Speaking of Chi-town…has the Dark one been around since the revelation of his tweet the other day about three-c Hillary?

I gotta be honest - to me, the 3-C assessment hinted at a 4th C-word, but I do think it would be overreaching to say Dark was pointing that way.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:07:09am

re: #339 lawhawk

Then again, that’s too kind. They’re much more like this:

Human Evolution à la Mel Brooks

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:07:58am

re: #331 Big Beautiful Door

Looking at 538’s nowcast model, Clinton could win a massive landslide, as states no Democrat has won in decades are coming into play. This could lead to a Democratic takeover of Congress as well.

I notice the NowCast is at 91.6/8.4. Don’t know how accurate that is, but it’s cheering me up a little.

Looking at the state-by-state, though—well, I’ll only speak to Washington, since I live here. Their three models give Trump a 6.0, 6.2, and 1.4% chance of winning WA. There is a 0% chance of Trump winning WA—absolutely zero.

I don’t know how they add up these probabilities, but I’m thinking Gaussian distribution with its long tails doesn’t work in this application. I have no alternative to suggest—just an observation.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:08:38am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Probably will get even more erratic as we get closer to the GE.

Yep and it will be caused by the Republicans trying to rein him in. His pushback against them will be epic. I’m hoping he goes after the Republican so much the base that loves him decides to start dumping establishment Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:09:05am

To me, it’s easy to see why Clinton has risen and Trump has fallen. One has acted presidential, and the other in a way you wouldn’t want a dinner guest.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:10:08am

re: #343 ObserverArt

Yep and it will be caused by the Republicans trying to rein him in. His pushback against them will be epic. I’m hoping he goes after the Republican so much the base that loves him decides to start dumping establishment Republicans.

We may get a hint about that in some of the Congressional primaries. I don’t expect either Ryan or McCain to lose theirs but I can’t help but to wonder if Trump’s non-committing to them could make things a little interesting.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:11:14am

re: #335 lawhawk

Bingo. That area is mostly office parks and stuff like that, but the people who do live there are going to face a daily nightmare, not just on game days. It was already cost prohibitive for a family to attend a game, it’s going to be worse now. By the time you buy a ticket, pay to park, buy food and drink for the day, maybe a t-shirt or some other trinket, you’re looking at at least a couple hundred bucks for a day out with the family. It’s not just baseball, all sports (including the sacred NASCAR) are like this now. What was once supposed to be something for working people to do with their families on the weekends is not affordable anymore. It’s ridiculous.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:11:35am

re: #332 lawhawk

Pele has been pushing for the US to have the 2026 World Cup, for the 250th of the Declaration of Independence.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:11:38am

Oh, of course, because Donald would NEVER “blog for a fashion magazine”

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:14:14am

re: #342 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I notice the NowCast is at 91.6/8.4. Don’t know how accurate that is, but it’s cheering me up a little.

Looking at the state-by-state, though—well, I’ll only speak to Washington, since I live here. Their three models give Trump a 6.0, 6.2, and 1.4% chance of winning WA. There is a 0% chance of Trump winning WA—absolutely zero.

I don’t know how they add up these probabilities, but I’m thinking Gaussian distribution with its long tails doesn’t work in this application. I have no alternative to suggest—just an observation.

Nate’s modeling takes the polling for the state, and then runs a very large number of simulations, simulating picking which candidate will win based on those polls. This takes into account the errors in the polls and the probabilities that users will show up. Thus, you are never going to end up with zero.

It’s sort of like there’s a nonzero probability that all of your underwear will suddenly move four feet to the left. We have never seen it happen, but physics will never completely rule it out.

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sagehen  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:15:09am

re: #333 ObserverArt

That is a constant. I went with ransom as it is a child of terror and fear. Here we are paying off our enemy that takes hostages and lend terrorists support.

And ransom is a fresh word for this election…so add it to the list under terror which will remain at the top.

Even Stephen Colbert fell for it; it was in his opening monologue last night. (He also did a very good mime explaining to Donald Trump why we can’t use nuclear weapons).

cbs.com

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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:15:26am

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

Also, it’s just not at all possible EVER to do more than one thing at a time. EVER. President Obama may have blogged for Glamour, Trump runs beauty pageants and appearantly can’t get through an interview without pausing to watch himself on TV. I’ll take the blogger, thankyewverymuch.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:15:54am

re: #342 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

…Looking at the state-by-state, though—well, I’ll only speak to Washington, since I live here. Their three models give Trump a 6.0, 6.2, and 1.4% chance of winning WA. There is a 0% chance of Trump winning WA—absolutely zero.

….

Helps offset mah fair state’s nowcast: HRC==.9%, Trump==99.9%. The missing .1% are recovering from meth lab misadventure in the ICU burn unit.

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Skip Intro  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:16:05am

Donald Trump and a C.I.A. Officer Walk Into a Room

Mr. Trump, I’m Gene Smith from the C.I.A.”

“Smith, huh? Is that your code name? You know, I know a huge amount about the C.I.A., more than most C.I.A. directors. A terrific, beautiful, very good organization.”

“Actually, Smith is my real name. Anyway, let’s get started with China and our assessment that Xi is much more aggressive than Hu.”

“She is more aggressive than who?”

“Exactly.”

“Well, I’d like to meet her. I like aggressive women. She sounds like a 10.”

nytimes.com

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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:16:38am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, it’s probably going to be TERROR! FEAR!

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Yeah, I just started reading today’s news—if he’s “of Somali origin” then he cannot possibly be mentally ill. Unless he’s white… but if he’s white and (presumably) Muslim, like the transit cop in D.C., then all bets are off. Everyone knows that mentally unstable people would never be attracted to groups like Da’esh, so it must be Islam.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:17:21am

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

Oh, of course, because Donald would NEVER “blog for a fashion magazine”

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They don’t seem to realize that being the President involves a lot of silly stuff like this. It’s always been that way.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:17:38am

#TrumpOlympics is a thing…

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BeachDem  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:17:42am

re: #292 Belafon

They’re trying to absolve themselves of responsibility for Trump. Sorry, Ben, you own the monster.

Also, they’re trying to make it so that Clinton didn’t win, Trump lost.

Yeah, if Bennie’s going with the “no true Republican” theory, it kinda proves that there are not very many “true” Republicans, because, as the Yam likes to point out ad nauseum, he got a YOOOGE number of votes from Republicans in the primary.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:18:13am

re: #351 A Mom Anon

Also, it’s just not at all possible EVER to do more than one thing at a time. EVER. President Obama may have blogged for Glamour, Trump runs beauty pageants and appearantly can’t get through an interview without pausing to watch himself on TV. I’ll take the blogger, thankyewverymuch.

The man who told jokes at the White House Correspondents Dinner while behind closed doors was coordinating the mission that got Bin Laden.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:20:06am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:22:07am

re: #359 lawhawk

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Gotta love the hypocrisy.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:23:37am

Because it wasn’t a ransom and had nothing to do with it?

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:25:22am

Gun ownership saves lives, except for all those who are killed (or injured):

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:26:33am

re: #362 lawhawk

Gun ownership saves lives, except for all those who are killed (or injured):

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But hey we’re just pussies because we don’t love gunz.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:26:54am

re: #336 ObserverArt

Speaking of Chi-town…has the Dark one been around since the revelation of his tweet the other day about three-c Hillary?

Being my computer was down last weekend and the first part of the week, what was this 3-C tweet of D_Fs?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:28:21am

Well, thanks to FormerDirtDart yesterday, I’m able to compare my hands with The Donald’s. Now, I’ve always though my hands were very small for my size. I’m 6’3” (more like 6’2” now that decrepitude has settled in), but if my lower arms and legs matched the rest of me, I’d probably be 7’ tall.

That said, it turns out my hands are in the 75th percentile, while Little Donny’s are in the 15th! He really is a short-fingered vulgarian!

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:31:09am

re: #335 lawhawk

Turner Field was one of the Atlanta Games venues, and the Braves wanted a new suburban stadium because they didn’t want some folks to have access to the ballpark. So, they’ve built it away from downtown, in a place inaccessible by mass transit, and puts local taxpayers on the hook for a new stadium that enriches the ownership and screws taxpayers again.

The Braves recently got Cobb County to enact new ordinances to ban the operation of privately owned parking lots on game days.
Deadspin did a piece on the previous use of parking scams by other sports franchises.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:31:49am

re: #365 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think we should all just send him a copy of that in contribution envelopes.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:31:58am

Even with all that, Chait still can’t get to calling Trump a proto-fascist (he referred to Trump’s ethno-nationalist ideology earlier this week) or a white supremacist.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:33:37am

re: #368 lawhawk

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Even with all that, Chait still can’t get to calling Trump a proto-fascist (he referred to Trump’s ethno-nationalist ideology earlier this week) or a white supremacist.

Well duh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:34:59am

Automatic Blocking Trigger

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:35:50am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:36:59am

Meanwhile there’s some flipping out about Obama issuing clemency to some prisoners. It’s literally part of the job description for the President to be able to do this and most of the people Obama gave clemency to are non-violent drug offenders who had way too harsh sentences put on them anyhow.
whitehouse.gov

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:39:57am

God help us when Obama at the end of his term issues pardons. Because everyone he pardons is going to be made out to be the worst criminal ever.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:40:25am

Out to pick a peck of peppers.
Really.

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Franklin  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:41:03am

re: #373 HappyWarrior

God help us when Obama at the end of his term issues pardons. Because everyone he pardons is going to be made out to be the worst criminal ever.

Maybe he can finally pardon Sec. Clinton for the murder of Benghazi Foster?

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Archangelus  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:42:39am

OT: Caught an early screening of Suicide Squad last night.
Verdict? Mess of a surprisingly boring movie with some good moments. 4/10 at best - consider avoiding unless you’re an avid DC fan.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:46:16am

In other news - Republican Liz Mair has a potty mouth.

“This is his message. His message is being a loudmouthed dick, basically, and going out there and offending people and then engaging in an airing of grievances.”

Video at link.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:47:02am

SMOTI IS ON IT LIKE WHITE ON RICE

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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:48:06am

re: #377 makeitstop

In other news - Republican Liz Mair has a potty mouth.

Video at link.

I saw that last night. I wonder if Von ClownStick will feel compelled to respond…

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:50:02am
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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:51:50am

re: #380 lawhawk

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Prolly started by a liberal agent of Obama’s to destroy the ammo. //

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:52:18am

re: #380 lawhawk

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Gun hoarding is dangerous.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:52:54am

re: #379 CuriousLurker

I saw that last night. I wonder if Von ClownStick will feel compelled to respond…

Wouldn’t bet against it.

One thing I’ve noticed - the only people he hasn’t hit back at as far as I can tell are Mark Cuban and Warren Buffett. I honestly think he’s afraid of people who have more money than him, with the exception of Mike Bloomberg (who he attacked but didn’t mention by name).

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:52:57am

re: #377 makeitstop

In other news - Republican Liz Mair has a potty mouth.

Video at link.

Well, Fareed Zakaria started it by suggesting Trump’s actions were akin to those of a bullshit artist.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:54:10am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

Gun hoarding is dangerous.

Who in the hell needs 100K rounds of ammo, FFS? Patriot! //

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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:54:49am

re: #377 makeitstop

In other news - Republican Liz Mair has a potty mouth.

Video at link.

Because Rick Perry, whose campaign Mair consulted for and who ended up endorsing Trump, was so much better?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:55:24am

re: #385 CuriousLurker

Who in the hell needs 100K rounds of ammo, FFS? Patriot! //

Preparing for Bill Clinton Barack Obama Hillary Clinton to ban the 2nd amendment.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:55:31am

WHAT IS HIS SECRET? AMPHETAMINES!

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:55:45am

re: #339 lawhawk

1968 was a good year for apes on film, with the famous and beautifully staged sequence in 2001, and the original Planet of the Apes. Charlton Heston’s iconic line, “Get your stinking paws off me you damned dirty ape” is #66 on AFP’s list of the top 100 quotes in American cinema.

Factoid: Pierre Boulle, who wrote the novel upon which the movie was based, La planète des singes (aka Planet of the Apes), was also the author of Bridge Over the River Kwai, which was the basis of another famous movie (with “over” changed to “on” in the title). The latter was based on his real experiences during World War II, when he was captured while working as a Free French secret agent in Vichy French controlled (and Japanese occupied) Indochina. He was made a chevalier of the Legion of Honor and received the Croix de Guerre and the Médaille de la Résistance for his wartime service. He is also noted for the shortest acceptance speech in Academy Award history, the single word “merci.”

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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:56:16am

re: #383 makeitstop

Wouldn’t bet against it.

One thing I’ve noticed - the only people he hasn’t hit back at as far as I can tell are Mark Cuban and Warren Buffett. I honestly think he’s afraid of people who have more money than him, with the exception of Mike Bloomberg (who he attacked but didn’t mention by name).

Yeah, I noticed that too. Wonder if he’ll go after Meg Whitman…

He’s soooooo freaking easy to bait. I hope people troll him into oblivion.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:56:20am

re: #386 Timothy Watson

Because Rick Perry, whose campaign Mair consulted for and who ended up endorsing Trump, was so much better?

That’s the thing that gets me about some of the never Trumps. Trump basically says what a lot of Republicans think already but aren’t stupid enough to say poublicly. The GOP problem with Trump is messaging rather than message.

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BeachDem  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:56:24am

re: #377 makeitstop

In other news - Republican Liz Mair has a potty mouth.

Video at link.

Hey, Mark Halperin called the President a dick on live tv, and it doesn’t seem to have hindered his career any. (and if anyone’s a dick, it’s Mark Halperin.)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:56:51am

re: #365 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

6’5” here. Hands went over the diagram, My Palm reached his the end of his thumb.

From base of the hand to fingertip, my hand is 8.6-8.9 inches (Tough to figure out where to measuring from).

Fingers on the other hand are very thin. Ring size around 5 to 7.

Weight is also low. For my age, my weight is only just above the 50th Percentile.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:56:57am

re: #390 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I noticed that too. Wonder if he’ll go after Meg Whitman…

He’s soooooo freaking easy to bait. I hope people troll him into oblivion.

I think he will go after Meg since she’s a woman and he’s a sexist fuck.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:57:13am

re: #386 Timothy Watson

Because Rick Perry, whose campaign Mair consulted for and who ended up endorsing Trump, was so much better?

Well, as horrible as Cowboy Rick was, he was still able to recite policy positions.

She’s like an old musician complaining about young bands and how they don’t ‘have it’ like the old guys do.

Get-off-my-lawn-ism, basically. :)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:58:40am

re: #395 makeitstop

Well, as horrible as Cowboy Rick was, he was still able to recite policy positions.

She’s like an old musician complaining about young bands and how they don’t ‘have it’ like the old guys do.

Get-off-my-lawn-ism, basically. :)

In Rick Perry’s day, we could only imply the kind of crap Trump spews openly now! Trump is sort of a 360 on what Lee Atwater said to do.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:59:34am

re: #385 CuriousLurker

No one outside of the military needs that much. It’s a paranoid ammosexual who gets scared everytime he sees “those people” commiting crimes on TV. Or he’s a milita asshole.

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Archangelus  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:01:02am

re: #397 A Mom Anon

No one outside of the military needs that much. It’s a paranoid ammosexual who gets scared everytime he sees “those people” commiting crimes on TV. Or he’s a milita asshole.

Why “Or”? One does not exclude the other so much as go hand in hand with it…

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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:03:19am

re: #385 CuriousLurker

Who in the hell needs 100K rounds of ammo, FFS? Patriot! //

I was trying to figure out how many years it would take to shot that much ammunition, but I gave up.

Meanwhile, I can’t afford to buy ammunition for plinking because these assholes buying all of it up.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:03:48am

re: #398 Archangelus

Why “Or”? One does not exclude the other so much as go hand in hand with it…

Non-exclusive or. :)

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:04:32am

FLORIDA MAN!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:05:04am

re: #388 The Vicious Babushka

WHAT IS HIS SECRET? AMPHETAMINES!

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When school starts, participation in that subreddit will decline sharply.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:06:38am

re: #398 Archangelus

LOL, I just thought that. They aren’t mutually exclusive. I stand corrected.

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MsJ  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:07:24am

re: #215 Danack

Salacious but interesting:
Where Is Melania Trump?

If Melania is going to stop hitting the campaign trail that is going to be a significant drain on Trump’s limited physical and emotional resources.

Either he’s going to have to travel back to New York every day, or he’s going to have to spend significant time away from one of the few people who doesn’t want Trump to crash and burn.

I feel somewhat sorry for her. She was made to look like a fool and is being exploited at every turn. Of course, taking your turn as current trophy wife and living in a gold encrusted abode kinda reduces my sympathy. Dogs, fleas, etc.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:07:33am

There’s a reason that the GOP is going bugnuts and lashing out with anything at their disposal, no matter how nonsensical it is (see the “double secret probation” $400 million ransom that wasn’t a ransom and wasn’t a secret for an example).

It’s because Trump’s driving the GOP right into the abyss, and all to the cheers of his supporters too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:08:30am

re: #404 MsJ

I feel somewhat sorry for her. She was made to look like a fool and is being exploited at every turn. Of course, taking your turn as current trophy wife and living in a gold encrusted abode kinda reduces my sympathy. Dogs, fleas, etc.

She also should have known that anything in her past that might hurt DT would be dragged out and put on display.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:09:51am

re: #401 Lidane

We had a story here about a police were called to a Willowbrook Mall parking lot and found a guy had crashed into a bunch of parked cars. They found him drunk. And naked.

Seems that he was misplaced from Florida. /

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:12:46am

re: #334 Decatur Deb

Way too high.

Its been updated again this morning; nowcast shows if election was today Trump’s chances have dropped to 8.4%

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:13:36am

re: #408 Big Beautiful Door

Its been updated again this morning; nowcast shows if election was today Trump’s chances have dropped to 8.4%

Still way too high.

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b.d.  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:13:45am

A parade is a parade is a parade:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:14:40am

re: #410 b.d.

A parade is a parade is a parade:

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Man, I had no idea that Jacksonville had so many Cleveland Cavs fans.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:14:55am

re: #409 Decatur Deb

Still way too high.

0.1% would be way too high.

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gwangung  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:15:34am

re: #408 Big Beautiful Door

Its been updated again this morning; nowcast shows if election was today Trump’s chances have dropped to 8.4%

Let’s not get cocky.

STEP ON HIS NECK.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:15:45am

re: #404 MsJ

I feel somewhat sorry for her. She was made to look like a fool and is being exploited at every turn. Of course, taking your turn as current trophy wife and living in a gold encrusted abode kinda reduces my sympathy. Dogs, fleas, etc.

I do feel bad for her. But like you said, if you sign up for a dirty job, you gotta expect to get dirty at some point.

On the other hand, though - she must have been pretty adamant that she wasn’t going to play Jackie Kennedy, because otherwise she’d be out smiling and waving and making her ghoul of an old man look something like a real human.

The last pictures of her from the convention told the tale. She doesn’t have much of a poker face, and it was crystal clear that she was miserable.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:15:59am

re: #409 Decatur Deb

If it is changing hour to hour, it is far too reactive.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:16:17am

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Should have known. But she’s married to a rich guy, they live in a really small bubble. Rich people think the rules don’t apply to them and exceptions will be made. While her husband has probably been involved in politics, as far as trying to tip scales in his favor as a “businessman”, they still aren’t a political family. I’m betting she thought she could get by on being pretty, as she has for a good portion of her life, standing by her husband’s side and being supportive and looking lovely and that would be that. These are people who don’t get overly involved in substance, at least on a public level (for all I know she could be smart and well read, we don’t know and I won’t judge that part) and I’m guessing neither of them had any clue about how exposed they’d be if the press decided to dig and throw dirt at them.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:16:44am

Collected more than a peck of peppers. Will show, if I can get a decent digital shot. This is the first really big haul, and would help amortize the cost of the largely experimental container garden. We especially love to stuff and grill the large, sweet Marconi’s, grown from seedlings.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:17:03am

You know, Trump could substitute his entire spiel and go with this instead, and no one would notice:

Denis Leary - Asshole (Uncensored Version)

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:17:21am

re: #413 gwangung

Let’s not get cocky.

STEP ON HIS NECK. With votes.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:18:04am

BTW, isn’t Auernheimer’s latest vile act criminal?

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:19:48am

re: #419 Decatur Deb

Sweep the leg.

Sweep The Leg

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:20:25am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:23:30am

re: #405 lawhawk

There’s a reason that the GOP is going bugnuts and lashing out with anything at their disposal, no matter how nonsensical it is (see the “double secret probation” $400 million ransom that wasn’t a ransom and wasn’t a secret for an example).

The fact that Drudge isn’t driving the $400M non-controversy into the ground pretty much tells you this story is yet another big, fat nothing-burger.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:23:38am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

Melania is no longer a real issue, forget her. I do hope someone is looking closely at the Trump Model Management agency.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:26:45am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Note that all of her social media has been in defense of herself, with cursory mentions of ‘her husband.’

I’m starting to think that she’s just the female version of him.

EDIT: Or Trump has told her she’s on her own.

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Jay C  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:26:57am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK - so who did she plagiarize THIS from????

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jeffreyw  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:28:11am

re: #321 sagehen

Here you go again, sending me off to Zabar’s for an entirely different dinner tonight than what I’d been thinking of…

We break out the Tex-Mex fairly often, hard to beat a nice burrito!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:30:16am

re: #415 Ziggy_TARDIS

If it is changing hour to hour, it is far too reactive.

Keep in mind that is only one of Nate’s three models, and its designed to be highly reactive to new polls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:30:25am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:31:07am
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Archangelus  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:31:41am
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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:33:30am

re: #431 Archangelus

They’ve weaponized their derp in the visage of Trump.

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Skip Intro  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:36:41am

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Jenner7  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:37:30am

Yeah, didn’t happen.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:38:08am

re: #425 makeitstop

Note that all of her social media has been in defense of herself, with cursory mentions of ‘her husband.’

I’m starting to think that she’s just the female version of him.

EDIT: Or Trump has told her she’s on her own.

I don’t like to comment on looks. But to back your point, in the 1999 photo in the politico article Melania is a very natural beauty; by 2016 she has Donald’s “Clint squint” down (maybe makeup, maybe cosmetic surgery). She looks just like him in that respect. Meaningless, but my fingers were itchy to type something.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:38:50am

Looks like Chuck C. Johnson sneaked back onto Twitter again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:41:08am
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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:41:28am

re: #434 Jenner7

Yeah, didn’t happen.

The only time intentional misreads are worthwhile is if you’re trying to be funny.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:41:58am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ooh, I’ve been looking forward to a new post. Gonna go check.

In the meantime, how 8 years as POTUS has aged him:

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:42:14am

re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not since Ronald Reagan. One of GHWB’s great contributions was ending ransom for hostages. Airplane hijackings stopped after he did that.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:42:26am

Republican releases ad promising to ‘stand up’ to Trump

The 30-second ad opens with a shot of Coffman, a 61-year-old Army and Marine veteran who fought in Iraq, looking directly at the camera.

“People ask me, ‘What do you think about Trump?’” he says. “Honestly, I don’t care for him much.”


politico.com

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:42:39am

re: #434 Jenner7

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Yeah, didn’t happen.

Cool, bigot comments right out of the gate: “this country was divided the minute Obama became president because he hates whites…..”

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:46:03am

While the Olympics are about to get underway, the impeachment of Rousseff continues apace:

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:47:45am

re: #435 Barefoot Grin

I don’t like to comment on looks. But to back your point, in the 1999 photo in the politico article Melania is a very natural beauty; by 2016 she has Donald’s “Clint squint” down (maybe makeup, maybe cosmetic surgery). She looks just like him in that respect. Meaningless, but my fingers were itchy to type something.

I hope that she stays true to her decision and stays in the background. Call it guilt by association, but if she becomes a campaign fixture she’ll get splashed by the overflow of scorn thrown at the old man.

And as bad as I can see that campaign getting as he gets more desperate, no one deserves to drown in that scorn more than Trump himself.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:49:44am

re: #444 makeitstop

I hope that she stays true to her decision and stays in the background. Call it guilt by association, but if she becomes a campaign fixture she’ll get splashed by the overflow of scorn thrown at the old man.

And as bad as I can see that campaign getting as he gets more desperate, no one deserves to drown in that scorn more than Trump himself.

Well said. This is about “He, Trump.”

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:54:53am

The natural progression of Trump voters. Pick the guy shooting and blowing stuff up.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:55:00am

re: #442 Barefoot Grin

Cool, bigot comments right out of the gate: “this country was divided the minute Obama became president because he hates whites…..”

Didn’t realize this was purposeful propaganda from zero-tolerance anti-immigration group with long ties to folks like Jared Taylor. No wonder it has so many bigoted fanboys.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:55:14am

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

She also should have known that anything in her past that might hurt DT would be dragged out and put on display.

One of those blogs out there that someone linked to said something along the lines of Melania didn’t want want him to run and is currently throwing a temper tantrum.

Yup, as A Mom Anon said, dogs/fleas etc. I am not as nice as she is and my thoughts are less sympathetic.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:55:42am

re: #436 Charles Johnson

Looks like Chuck C. Johnson sneaked back onto Twitter again.

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Berlin, Germany?

And it’s got the David and Goliath motif he likes so much.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:57:16am

WTF CNN stop it.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 8:58:27am

His Bronze Star is nothing to sneer at, but Joe Medicine Crow marked his coup stick on a German soldier. Dead at 102, this April.

After spending the latter half of 1942 working in the naval ship yards in Bremerton, Washington, Medicine Crow joined the Army in 1943,[5] became a scout in the 103rd Infantry Division, and fought in World War II. Whenever he went into battle, he wore his war paint beneath his uniform and a sacred eagle feather beneath his helmet.[3]

Medicine Crow completed all four tasks required to become a war chief: Touching an enemy without killing him, taking an enemy’s weapon, leading a successful war party, and stealing an enemy’s horse:[6] He touched a living enemy soldier and disarmed an enemy when he turned a corner and found himself face to face with a young German soldier:
” The collision knocked the German’s weapon to the ground. Mr. Crow lowered his own weapon and the two fought hand-to-hand. In the end Mr. Crow got the best of the German, grabbing him by the neck and choking him. He was going to kill the German soldier on the spot when the man screamed out ‘momma.’ Mr. Crow then let him go.[3] “

He also led a successful war party and stole fifty horses from a battalion of German SS-officers,[8] singing a traditional Crow honor song as he rode off.[9]

en.wikipedia.org

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Mike Lamb  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:01:34am

re: #436 Charles Johnson

Looks like Chuck C. Johnson sneaked back onto Twitter again.

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What’s the stupid “OK” thing stand for again?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:03:52am

O_o

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sagehen  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:03:59am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I believe that as much as I believe she wrote her own speech.

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:04:31am

re: #450 The Vicious Babushka

These people don’t really want Trump to win, there will be no one left to blame everything on.

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Jenner7  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:05:01am
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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:05:31am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:06:24am

THIS IS FINE dog meme realizes THIS IS NOT FINE OMG EVERYTHING IS ON FIRE

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Ubiq  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:07:09am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

It’s all about the ratings, and of course, ratings = $$$. If they were report, “And in 2016 Election news, Donald Trump continues to have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting elected as President, and political analysts of all stripes are predicting a debacle for the GOP this November”, well…..no one’s really going to be interested in watching. Thus, the horse-race narrative.

I think that’s true most years. However, this year I think the explosion of a major candidate is at least as compelling as the standard horse race story.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:07:16am

re: #446 lawhawk

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The natural progression of Trump voters. Pick the guy shooting and blowing stuff up.

I thought Kari looked better with a mingun:

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Jenner7  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:08:09am

So, he lied. The video used by Fox News, was that of the hostages coming out of the plane.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:08:44am

re: #452 Mike Lamb

What’s the stupid “OK” thing stand for again?

It’s either a reference to Trump’s habit of making the OK sign while he’s speechifying, or some kind of gang sign used by alt righters. Or both.

Its Twitter handle refers to this, Psalm 144:1:

Blessed be the LORD, my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle;

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:09:00am

re: #459 Ubiq

I think that’s true most years. However, this year I think the explosion of a major candidate is at least as compelling as the standard horse race story.

Oh, no doubt about it. It makes for grand entertainment as far as the news it concerned. And Trump’s a juicy target as well, as I’m sure we’re going to start seeing in the next few weeks.

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Ubiq  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:09:09am

re: #241 Archangelus

OT question: Has anyone seen a new show called Stranger Things and is it really as good as I’ve heard from some folks I know (whose judgement concerning TV shows i typically question)?

I ask because having been burnt too much by TV shows that ended up badly or were cancelled without a proper ending, I’m far more strict with what I’m willing to start watching nowadays…

It is a love letter to 80s movies like ET, the Goonies, Close Encounters and Poltergeist. If you like those sorts of 80s adventure movies, you will adore them.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:09:27am

So, Katie Bullets got reprimanded?

Although national campaign co-chair Sam Clovis insisted “I’m not throwing Katrina under the bus” (he said, as he threw her under the bus) in a Thursday morning interview with CNN, he said, “we’re fixing it” when asked how the campaign was handling Pierson’s misstep.

“I guarantee you that won’t happen again with her, and it won’t likely happen again with someone else,” Clovis told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota.

She probably got reprimanded for the half-assed apology more than the lying.

In the Trump campaign, there are certain things that you just do not do - and apologizing sits at the top of that list.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:09:47am

re: #457 lawhawk

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He’s not going to win Florida with those numbers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:10:37am

re: #452 Mike Lamb

What’s the stupid “OK” thing stand for again?

It’s a thing Trump does with his hands when he speaks. It looks random, not like he is throwing actual signs, it’s just some tic he has and he doesn’t even seem to be consciously aware of it.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:11:01am

re: #466 HappyWarrior

He’s not going to win Florida with those numbers.

Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania are do-or-die for Trump. If he loses those on Election Day, it’ll all be over pretty damn early that evening, I’d say.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:12:24am

re: #468 Dr Lizardo

Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania are do-or-die for Trump. If he loses those on Election Day, it’ll all be over pretty damn early that evening, I’d say.

Agreed and honestly I can’t see him winning in PA or OH. So much is made that Trump is stronger in those areas than the average Republican but is he really?

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KingKenrod  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:14:06am

re: #467 The Vicious Babushka

It’s a thing Trump does with his hands when he speaks. It looks random, not like he is throwing actual signs, it’s just some tic he has and he doesn’t even seem to be consciously aware of it.

I think it’s an intentional subliminal technique myself.

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:14:20am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

When Republicans are destroyed in November, I’m going to tell everyone of them that God was working through Trump. He got the outcome He wanted.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:15:32am

re: #469 HappyWarrior

Agreed and honestly I can’t see him winning in PA or OH. So much is made that Trump is stronger in those areas than the average Republican but is he really?

I doubt it, but then again, the world of politics is full of surprises. But if the election were held, let’s say, next Tuesday, it’d be in the bag for Mrs. Clinton.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:17:46am

Well, off to dinner and movie. Later.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:18:22am

Bad crazy, get the REAL NEWS:

Oh, America. *headdesk*

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Ubiq  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:19:35am

re: #293 Big Beautiful Door

That will be their narrative. Nate Silver’s nowcast just updated, presumably incorporating the devastating new polls this morning. Trump’s chances of victory if the election was today dropped to 10.4%

As always, attaching yourself emotionally to the NowCast is going to be a roller coaster ride. Stick with ‘Polls-Plus’, which gives him about a 30% chance. We should be happy, but still not comfortable.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:21:39am

re: #474 CuriousLurker

Bad crazy, get the REAL NEWS:

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Oh, America. *headdesk*

Trump supported the war and so did his running mate. He doesn’t get to act like he opposed it. And besides no one was blaming any party or candidate for Mr. Khan’s son death, Trump continues to shit on their son’s memory though. Way to go Corey and Roger.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:23:59am

A retired major general hangs out today’s bait. How long before the braying jackasses on the Right lay into this guy?

I join all those who stand in support of the Khan family. This family is our family, and any attack on this wonderful American Gold Star family is an attack on all patriotic and loyal Americans who have sacrificed to make our country great. Any politically or racially motivated attack on the Khans is despicable and un-American.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:25:29am

re: #477 makeitstop

A retired major general hangs out today’s bait. How long before the braying jackasses on the Right lay into this guy?

Awesome to see this.

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Ubiq  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:26:24am

re: #314 lawhawk

Manafort’s running a shit show and he knows it. He’s admitting that Trump isn’t interested in the primaries or the basics of politics. He doesn’t get or care that the GOP success hinges on maintaining an advantage in the House in numbers. Presidential candidates have to support down ticket races in order to get their agenda’s adopted.

There may be a much more crass calculation here: Manafort may realize that Trump ‘helping’ downballot candidates won’t do anything of the sort.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:28:48am

re: #477 makeitstop

A retired major general hangs out today’s bait. How long before the braying jackasses on the Right lay into this guy?

There is a niggling problem with that article, and I hope it’s just that an editor screwed it up: No Army officer would abbreviate an Army rank ‘Captain’ (03) as ‘Capt.’ That’s not even quite right for a Navy Captain (06). Look at Captain Khan’s tombstone—it’s ‘CPT’, all caps.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:29:46am

re: #480 Decatur Deb

No doubt an editing decision, and no doubt some RWNJs will seize on it as proof that it’s “fake.”

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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:31:11am

Kinda what I imagine Charles feels like lots of times.

Yesterday morning at 1:30am:

Eight hours later:

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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:33:02am

re: #477 makeitstop

A retired major general hangs out today’s bait. How long before the braying jackasses on the Right lay into this guy?

They’re tag teaming him. //

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Ming5000  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:37:07am

Good article in RawStory, previously recommended upthread.
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains
Bobby Azarian, Raw Story BOBBY AZARIAN, RAW STORY
04 AUG 2016 AT 05:12 ET

1: The Dunning-Kruger Effect
2: Hypersensitivity to Threat
3: Terror Management Theory
4: High Attentional Engagement

If you can identify the malady, you can treat the malady.

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Bear  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:39:52am

re: #332 lawhawk

What about Squaw Valley Winter 1960?

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:42:33am

re: #484 Ming5000

The last one, High Attentional Engagement, is what we here and on blogs like Daily Kos, can suffer from. We know a lot about what’s going on politically, but I think we can sometimes lose the fact that 1) most people aren’t paying as much attention as us, and 2) is the large scheme of things, the day to day stuff we know a lot about doesn’t have an effect outside the political bubble. Not necessarily everything we see that is outrageous really does rank very high on the “will it interfere with paying my bills and feeding my children” scale that most people live by.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:42:39am

re: #484 Ming5000

I have a better diagnosis: they are just assholes.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:44:32am

This was news to me, and I’m going to share it here. For the first time, a team of refugees will compete in the Olympics. here’s their Twitter TL

twitter.com

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:44:36am

Rep. Mike Coffman of Colorado (R.-CO 6th)

“People ask me, ‘What do you think about Trump?’” he says. “Honestly, I don’t care for him much.”
A few moments later, he says: “I’m a Marine - for me, country comes first. My duty is always to you. So if Donald Trump is the president, I’ll stand up to him. Plain and simple.”

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:45:44am

re: #489 FormerDirtDart

Rep. Mike Coffman of Colorado (R.-CO 6th)

Can someone run an ad that takes that line and then says “Yep, it worked so well for the Germans.”

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:48:45am

re: #483 CuriousLurker

They’re tag teaming him. //

Just like I always figured they would.

Any competent candidate should know better than to telegraph his greatest weakness to his opponent.

Fortunately for us, ‘competent candidate’ is nowhere to be found on Trump’s resume. :)

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:51:06am

Scenes from the Portland ME Trump rally:

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:52:54am

No misogyny at a Trump rally, no ma’am.

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Ming5000  Aug 4, 2016 • 9:55:14am

re: #487 Dr. Matt

I have a better diagnosis: they are just assholes.

The is no cure for assholery. Sad

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MsJ  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:02:37am

re: #495 Dr. Matt

Same links above.

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:03:23am

re: #495 Dr. Matt

Stubby!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:05:08am

another Cavs parade pic, this time claiming to be Trump in Portland, Maine:

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sagehen  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:07:17am

re: #495 Dr. Matt

Revealed at Madame Tussauds: Donald Trump’s Actual Hand Size

Click here for a printable, life-size look at one of Trump’s hands.

I’m female, six inches shorter than him, and my hands are considerably larger.

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b.d.  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:09:25am

re: #495 Dr. Matt

Revealed at Madame Tussauds: Donald Trump’s Actual Hand Size

Click here for a printable, life-size look at one of Trump’s hands.

And you know what they say about guys with small hands, You can’t trust ‘em!” - Republican Senator Marco Rubio (FL)

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:15:39am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

another Cavs parade pic, this time claiming to be Trump in Portland, Maine:

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Where is the travelling show pitching its tent today?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:16:41am

re: #501 Decatur Deb

Where is the travelling show pitching its tent today?

Portland, Maine at 3 pm.
Bonus: LePage is supposed to be there!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:17:55am

re: #502 Backwoods_Sleuth

Portland, Maine at 3 pm.
Bonus: LePage is supposed to be there!

Will D-Money, Smoothie, or Shifty also be making appearances?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:18:10am
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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:18:10am

Lumpy’s already prepping for November:

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:18:20am

re: #502 Backwoods_Sleuth

Portland, Maine at 3 pm.
Bonus: LePage is supposed to be there!

Alert the NRC—we might achieve Critical Derp.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:18:36am
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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:20:13am

This is hilarious. It’s like these boobs don’t understand their nominee:

I adore the headline, too. When was Trump ever poised for victory?

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:21:41am

re: #508 Lidane

“He needs discipline.”
“If only Trump can be someone else, he could win!”

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nines09  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:21:42am

re: #380 lawhawk

He must be a GREAT neighbor. Quiet. Never bothers no one. Keeps to himself.

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Jay C  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:21:55am

re: #508 Lidane

This is hilarious. It’s like these boobs don’t understand their nominee:

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Oh, I think they understand him, all right.
But they went ahead and nominated him anyway….

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:23:22am

Portland Press Herald wonders why Trump spends so much energy trying to win Maine with its 4 electoral votes—hasn’t gone R for president since GHWB. ‘Maybe the impact of picking up one conservative district’s vote will spread over into NH?’ Still doesn’t make sense (his 3rd visit).

pressherald.com

eta: it would be kind of funny if he started taking shots at Kelly Ayotte….

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iossarian  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:24:39am

re: #508 Lidane

I adore the headline, too. When was Trump ever poised for victory?

If you think about it, though, what’s chilling about Trump is that if he were even 25% sane, he might have a good chance at winning.

Which says a lot about the debased state of the American body politic.

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iossarian  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:25:23am

re: #512 Barefoot Grin

Portland Press Herald wonders why Trump spends so much energy trying to win Maine with its 4 electoral votes—hasn’t gone R for president since GHWB. ‘Maybe the impact of picking up one conservative district’s vote will spread over into NH?’ Still doesn’t make sense (his 3rd visit).

pressherald.com

Maybe he wants to use a win in Maine as a mandate to set up a breakaway state with an economy founded on lobster shacks and links golf courses.

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iossarian  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:27:25am

re: #507 lawhawk

Mein Gott. Add that to the list of “times I wished I had a different career, one which I could also set on fire for a brief moment of pure glory”.

In this case, stand up comedian. “And now, here are fifty jokes about how Donald Trump is a charlatan who can’t afford to buy his own suits.”

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:28:08am

There’s a great rundown of the various election forecasters and how they see the election going. That includes Nate’s 538, Sam Wang’s PEC, and a couple others thrown in for good measure alongside the NYT house forecast.

Let’s put it bluntly. Trump’s likely to lose. But it’s not impossible that Trump could somehow win. He’d need a series of highly improbable wins to make that happen.

It’s up to the voters to make sure that he doesn’t win.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:28:30am

re: #466 HappyWarrior

He’s not going to win Florida with those numbers.

New Florida poll today Clinton +6 head-to-head, +4 with Johnson and Stein included.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:29:29am

re: #502 Backwoods_Sleuth

Portland, Maine at 3 pm.
Bonus: LePage is supposed to be there!

Hoo boy. Freshly-opened can of naked racism, incoming.

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:29:51am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:30:35am

re: #468 Dr Lizardo

Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania are do-or-die for Trump. If he loses those on Election Day, it’ll all be over pretty damn early that evening, I’d say.

He could lose one of them and thread the needle by winning a bunch of other swing states, but that’s unlikely.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:30:36am

re: #505 Lidane

Lumpy’s already prepping for November:

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I LOL at ‘Lumpy’ every single time. Thanks, Jon Stewart!

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KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:31:11am

re: #505 Lidane

Lumpy’s already prepping for November:

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Not going to lie, Fox News will be fun to watch for a week or two if Clinton wins and the Democrats take the Senate (and possibly the House)…

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:32:06am

re: #512 Barefoot Grin

Portland Press Herald wonders why Trump spends so much energy trying to win Maine with its 4 electoral votes—hasn’t gone R for president since GHWB. ‘Maybe the impact of picking up one conservative district’s vote will spread over into NH?’ Still doesn’t make sense (his 3rd visit).

pressherald.com

eta: it would be kind of funny if he started taking shots at Kelly Ayotte….

My guess - short jet ride, doesn’t cost much.

524
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:32:32am

His last several have been uncharacteristically sedate. Thanking folks for attending his rallies, thanking law enforcement, etc.

Looks like someone else is doing his tweets.

525
jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:33:15am

Be careful out there, people!

526
Franklin  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:33:25am

re: #523 makeitstop

My guess - short jet ride, doesn’t cost much.

Good call. Gives the impression of campaigning, and it’ll be broadcast everywhere (thanks media!).

527
Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:33:29am

re: #475 Ubiq

As always, attaching yourself emotionally to the NowCast is going to be a roller coaster ride. Stick with ‘Polls-Plus’, which gives him about a 30% chance. We should be happy, but still not comfortable.

I’m enjoying the fantasy. I also think there is a good chance that with Trump setting himself on fire, Clinton’s convention bounce will stick.

528
KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:34:26am

re: #520 Big Beautiful Door

He could lose one of them and thread the needle by winning a bunch of other swing states, but that’s unlikely.

Only if he holds Virginia and North Carolina. And possibly Nevada. The map just doesn’t favor Trump (or really most Republicans) at the presidential level.

529
jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:36:37am
530
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:36:47am

1,900 seat capacity (I looked it up).

531
Eventual Carrion  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:38:01am

re: #426 Jay C

[Embedded content]

OK - so who did she plagiarize THIS from????

Amelda Marcos?

532
Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:38:18am

re: #514 iossarian

Maybe he wants to use a win in Maine as a mandate to set up a breakaway state with an economy founded on lobster shacks and links golf courses.

His buddy LePage was a pioneer in warning against pregnancy by black invaders. I’d go with the other suggestions, too. Convenient, gets press coverage anyway. And if he’s lucky, protestors might do something stupid—though I doubt it in Portland, ME.

533
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:39:52am

re: #526 Franklin

Good call. Gives the impression of campaigning, and it’ll be broadcast everywhere (thanks media!).

Also, home by dinner.

534
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:40:14am
535
darthstar  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:40:50am

Friend of mine on FB just posted the following exchange he had with his 10 year old kid as they’re driving through Long Island:

(seeing a car covered in Trump stickers)
Dad, is that what an idiot looks like?
Why do you say that guy’s an idiot?
All the Trump stickers.
People can support who they want. Why does that make him an idiot?
He’s ruined his car with the stickers, and Trump’s a racist.

Smart kid.

536
KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:42:08am

re: #534 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Does anyone else now have an image of Biden making that friendship bracelet while pretending to listen to Republicans?

537
Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:43:42am

re: #534 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

So stupid, but I teared up for a moment—no onions cut.

538
Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:43:47am

re: #525 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Be careful out there, people!

“I haven’t had any soul food in awhile. Where’s my African-American!”

539
A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:44:07am

re: #436 Charles Johnson

Oh please, Psalm 144 verse one? LOL. I am dying. Someone’s mommy told them they were way more special than they are. ROTFLMAO. What a buffoon.

540
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:46:54am
541
Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:47:42am

re: #528 KGxvi

Only if he holds Virginia and North Carolina. And possibly Nevada. The map just doesn’t favor Trump (or really most Republicans) at the presidential level.

Agreed, if Trump’s campaign doesn’t completely implode and this race turn into a Clinton landslide, he has only a few paths to victory which run through Arizona, Nevada, Iowa, Florida, NC, Va, Ohio, Pa, NH and Maine’s 2d Congressional District. He can’t get to 270 without winning almost all of those.

542
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:49:38am
543
Alephnaught  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:51:45am

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

That seekrit airplane with all the moneys? B-roll.

[Embedded content]

Hang on, how does that Trump campaign rationalisation even make sense? Not only was that clip obviously not “Top Secret”, it was of a completely different event in a completely different country. They might as well have supplied a clip of Tom & Jerry to make their point.

544
FormerDirtDart  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:54:52am
545
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:57:00am

Another account worth following:

546
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 10:59:02am

Welp, you can scratch ‘brand-building’ off of the list of things the Trump campaign is doing.

Based on looking at users’ location data in the aggregate, Foursquare found that foot traffic to Trump hotels, golf courses and casinos is down since he announced his candidacy, particularly among women in blue states.

The big data tells an interesting story. Before Trump launched his campaign, infamously calling some Mexicans “rapists,” in June 2015, Foursquare data shows foot traffic had been steady year-over-year and potentially saw an uptick.

But after he became Trump the presidential candidate, Foursquare found his properties didn’t see their usual seasonal boost and, by August 2015, the share of people hoofing it to all Trump properties was down 17 percent from the same period in 2014. After stabilizing to single-digit losses, the start of primary season primetime in March 2016 saw a 17 percent drop in share of people at Trump properties.

The picture is more dire in the breakdown of foot traffic to Trump properties in traditionally red vs. blue states, bearing in mind that Trump properties are located mostly in blue states and rely on guests who live in the region, according to Foursquare. Across Trump locations in New York, New Jersey, Illinois, and Hawaii, foot traffic started to take a hit in March 2016, with the year-on-year share losses widening to 20 percent in July.

The losses were even worse among women, whose visits sustained double-digit losses. In blue states, Foursquare found visits from women to Trump properties were down 29 percent in July.

547
Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:03:44am

re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth

Zika hits the U.S. military: 41 troops, 7 family members diagnosed ow.ly

Army (Government) money will not be available for the abortion option. A lot of money will be available for any disabled child through the DoD medical and Exceptional Family Member programs.

548
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:04:16am
549
mmmirele  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:07:57am

Wired has a story about Rukmini Callimachi, a New York Times reporter who has done some amazing stories about ISIS. She broke the story about how IS fighters made the women they’d taken as sex slaves take birth control so they wouldn’t get pregnant (and thus break the IS version of sharia law) and she also did the story about the young woman in rural Washington state who was being lured into ISIS’s web as a possible jihadi wife.

wired.com

My only disappointment is that I haven’t seen an update on that young woman. I should look.

550
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:10:59am
551
A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:11:42am

re: #550 lawhawk

and need a supposedly legit excuse to be an all around asshole.

552
ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:12:21am

re: #364 Bubblehead II

Being my computer was down last weekend and the first part of the week, what was this 3-C tweet of D_Fs?

Just got back from a short meeting that went 3.5 hours…so this may have been answered already…

Dark in a tweet that teleskiguy posted called Hillary Conniving, Cackling, Crooked.

553
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:12:58am

I’ve got to wonder if Trump’s now writing for the DPRK:

554
jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:13:12am
555
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:13:37am

re: #525 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Be careful out there, people!

¡Taco Bowl es la gente!

556
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:14:25am

Another one bites the dust…

557
iossarian  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:15:58am

re: #550 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Someone the other day was saying that the best way of understanding the meaning of “politically correct” is to replace the phrase with an appropriate form of “caring about other people’s feelings”.

“I’m not politically correct” -> “I’m not someone who cares about other people’s feelings”

“There’s too much political correctness in the USA today” -> “There’s too much caring about other people’s feelings in the USA today”.

558
ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:18:18am

re: #371 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

I didn’t realize Barack Obama was a Leo. He joins Harrison, Hoover, and Clinton (1).

Imma Leo too…share dates with Big Bill.

559
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:19:27am

re: #558 ObserverArt

I didn’t realize Barack Obama was a Leo. He joins Harrison, Hoover, and Clinton (1).

Imma Leo too…share dates with Big Bill.

Fellow Leo here, yo! Sharing a birthday with many heroes, but missed Big Dog’s by a day.

560
Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:21:20am

re: #556 lawhawk

BREAKING: Federal Court Dismisses Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore’s Civil Rights Lawsuit buzzfeed.com

Another one bites the dust…

Best part—the reason is essentially “states’ rights”. I love judicial trolling in the morning.

“… Moore’s federal case, if resolved in his favor, “would interfere with ongoing state proceedings.”

561
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:23:31am
562
Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:24:20am

re: #519 jaunte

OK, I’m done with the Obamas. Who the hell looks like that in a DMV photo?

563
jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:24:35am

Pence: “Lemme tell you, I couldn’t be more proud to stand with Donald Trump and we are shoulder to shoulder.”

564
Stanley Sea  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:26:26am

Joy!

565
Danack  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:27:36am

re: #529 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That’s pretty brutal. And deserved.

566
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:31:10am

And Paul’s & Trump’s plans pretty much boil down to “get rid of mining regulations” and “reopen the mines”.

567
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:31:18am

re: #564 Stanley Sea

The best I’ve seen was the video posted yesterday (apologies since I can’t recall who did that here) showing a baby crying in Michelle’s arms, but Barack was able to get the baby to calm down.

I have been there too with my nephews, niece and friends’ kids. I was able to get them all to calm down, even when their dad wasn’t always able to.

Sigh.

568
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:33:50am

HOLY. UTTER. CRAP.

Paul Nehlen, the blithering idiot running against Paul Ryan, in an interview with a Chicago radio station, suggests deporting all the Muslims in America==>
(The insanity begins at 3:45 and the “Deport the Muslims” is at 7:00)

Chicago’s Morning Answer - Paul Nehlen FULL - August 1, 2016

569
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:33:57am

MOBS!!11!!

570
Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:36:06am

re: #569 Backwoods_Sleuth

MOBS!!11!!

[Embedded content]

You know what was once great about America? Men knew to take off their hats indoors.

571
A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:39:32am

re: #569 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are there photos of these MOBS!!!? Seriously, if you’re going to show us a narrow ass frame of a packed house, then show us the MOBS!!! outside.

572
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:41:15am
573
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:43:14am

re: #571 A Mom Anon

Are there photos of these MOBS!!!? Seriously, if you’re going to show us a narrow ass frame of a packed house, then show us the MOBS!!! outside.

They’re looking for photos of the Cavs’ victory parade that they haven’t used yet.

574
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:44:52am

re: #571 A Mom Anon

Are there photos of these MOBS!!!? Seriously, if you’re going to show us a narrow ass frame of a packed house, then show us the MOBS!!! outside.

and another view of inside the venue:

575
Botsplainer  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:45:25am

re: #570 Barefoot Grin

Removal of one’s cover indoors was generally understood, and likely a byproduct of the old military protocol, reinforced by cultural norms.

As ubiquitous military service has diminished, so has the indoor cover custom.

576
EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:46:31am

re: #557 iossarian

Someone the other day was saying that the best way of understanding the meaning of “politically correct” is to replace the phrase with an appropriate form of “caring about other people’s feelings”.

“I’m not politically correct” -> “I’m not someone who cares about other people’s feelings”

“There’s too much political correctness in the USA today” -> “There’s too much caring about other people’s feelings in the USA today”.

I prefer the simpler approach. “I’m not politically correct” = “I want public support of me being a bigoted skid mark”.

577
Kragar  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:46:50am
578
Kragar  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:47:22am

re: #572 lawhawk

579
KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:47:44am

re: #570 Barefoot Grin

You know what was once great about America? Men knew to take off their hats indoors.

Bring back hat and coat checks and I’ll gladly take my hat off inside

580
Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:47:52am

re: #575 Botsplainer

Removal of one’s cover indoors was generally understood, and likely a byproduct of the old military protocol, reinforced by cultural norms.

As ubiquitous military service has diminished, so has the indoor cover custom.

For my dad, and a lot of other old veterans I see, I think it’s because their hair’s thinned too much and they’d forget the hat if they put it down. My dad forgets his a lot if he takes it off.

581
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:49:43am
582
Botsplainer  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:50:49am

Just realized - I’m going to be diving in Bonaire in November for Election Day. Gotta absentee vote.

Plus, as I remember, I’m pretty sure there is no TV at the bar at the dive resort, so I’m going to have to burn international data following the festivities.

583
Barefoot Grin  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:53:16am

re: #575 Botsplainer

Removal of one’s cover indoors was generally understood, and likely a byproduct of the old military protocol, reinforced by cultural norms.

As ubiquitous military service has diminished, so has the indoor cover custom.

Could well be. I get the reminder from my spouse, who hates it.

584
Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:53:21am

re: #580 Belafon

Also, I don’t really care for traditions for tradition’s sake. You know, like the one requiring women in the senate to wear dresses or shorts.

585
b.d.  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:55:25am

Why is Trump campaigning in Maine?

586
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:56:50am

Thank You All For Participating In The Nationwide ‘Trump’ Psychological Evaluation

all serious trump supporters have been scheduled for preventative isolation and emotional wellness therapy

587
Poligeek  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:57:06am

re: #585 b.d.

Why is Trump campaigning in Maine?

Because he lacks a grasp on sanity and reality?

588
A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:57:14am

re: #574 Backwoods_Sleuth

I forgot that’s in Maine, right? I’m in metro Atlanta, there’s probably more people at the grocery store down the road from me right now. Not a bad turnout, but not MOBS! worthy either. I am so used to lots of traffic and people all over the place (a city and metro area of 8-11 million, depending on who you ask and what counties are included) that it takes a whole stadium for me to register “alot”. For Maine, probably not too shabby a crowd I guess.

(edit) Metro Atlanta is about 4-6 million, the state population is around 11 million. The count for the metro varies from Fulton county -where Atlanta is- to 6-10 of the surrounding counties. As more of the old “exburbs” fill up with people leaving the suburbs, the larger the area considered metro.

589
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:57:59am

re: #585 b.d.

Are you going to tell him that it isn’t a good place for him to campaign? I’d rather he wastes his time running all over rather than focusing on the swing states, since it gives Democrats even better chance of winning WH, and possibly winning back at least the Senate.

590
Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 11:59:20am

re: #487 Dr. Matt

I have a better diagnosis: they are just assholes.

Low down dirty bastards.

591
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:00:37pm

re: #585 b.d.

Why is Trump campaigning in Maine?

I’m guessing it’s low investment in terms of travel cost, and high return in terms of media coverage.

It allows Trump to maintain the image that he’s ‘on the campaign trail’ while running his campaign on a shoestring. Whether he flies to Maine or Los Angeles, the TV shots look the same.

592
Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:01:24pm

re: #577 Kragar

IVORY TOWER ELITISTS! ELEVENTY!

I’m kidding, but we all know some RWNJ out there is saying it.

593
A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:01:48pm

re: #591 makeitstop

I’m guessing it’s low investment in terms of travel cost, and high return in terms of media coverage.

It allows Trump to maintain the image that he’s ‘on the campaign trail’ while running his campaign on a shoestring. Whether he flies to Maine or Los Angeles, the TV shots look the same.

So do the photos… everyone seems to be wearing Cavs gear everywhere he goes…

594
Interesting Times  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:01:57pm

re: #585 b.d.

Why is Trump campaigning in Maine?

He wants to say hello to its glorious governor:

“These are guys with the name D-Money, Smoothie, Shifty. These types of guys, they come from Connecticut and New York, they come up here, they sell their heroin, they go back home,” LePage told a crowd in Bridgton at a townhall meeting on Jan. 6.

“Incidentally, half the time they impregnate a young white girl before they leave, which is a real sad thing because then we have another issue we have to deal with down the road,” he continued.

595
KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:02:34pm

re: #585 b.d.

Why is Trump campaigning in Maine?

Because:

A. He’s an idiot and thinks Maine is in play
B. He has a golf course or other property near by and figures if he gives a speech first he can write off the trip
C. The RNC and his campaign staff are trying to keep him away from other GOP candidates
D. All of the above

596
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:02:55pm

the trump campaign literally functions as a litmus test detecting people who are unable to recognize a serious emotional pathology

597
A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:03:08pm

Oh my. Time to pop some popcorn.

598
CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:03:33pm

re: #585 b.d.

Why is Trump campaigning in Maine?

Because of TP-backed wingnut Gov. Le Page?

599
FormerDirtDart  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:03:38pm
600
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:03:48pm

re: #593 A wild WITHAK appeared!

So do the photos… everyone seems to be wearing Cavs gear everywhere he goes…

That LeBron, he’s a popular dude.
/

601
Franklin  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:04:33pm

re: #585 b.d.

Why is Trump campaigning in Maine?

Thanks for the inspiration for this tweet!

602
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:04:36pm

CHARLES! QUICK! Check out SMOTI’s website right now:

BWAHAHAHAAAAAA

I arf you not!
603
CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:04:37pm

re: #594 Interesting Times

He wants to say hello to its glorious governor:

GMTA ;-)

604
b.d.  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:05:02pm

re: #594 Interesting Times

He wants to say hello to its glorious governor:

So he is trying to lose

605
KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:05:37pm

re: #597 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Oh my. Time to pop some popcorn.

[Embedded content]

I really thought McCain was the right guy in 2000. These last 15 years have not been good for him

606
mmmirele  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:05:48pm

re: #597 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Oh my. Time to pop some popcorn.

[Embedded content]

Wow, let’s see if Arizona’s senior senator can find the stones to tell Trump to take a hike.

607
b.d.  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:05:50pm

re: #601 Franklin

Thanks for the inspiration for this tweet!

[Embedded content]

nice

608
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:05:55pm

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

CHARLES! QUICK! Check out SMOTI’s website right now:

[Embedded content]

I arf you not!

Today, we are all Clevelanders. Hee hee hee…

609
FormerDirtDart  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:06:35pm

And, thousands of RAGE GENERATORs were just plugged in to charge up…

610
b.d.  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:09:11pm

re: #597 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Oh my. Time to pop some popcorn.

[Embedded content]

I guess that meeting didn’t go so well.

TUCSON, Ariz. — Republican vice presidential nominee Mike Pence met with Sen. John McCain on Tuesday, just hours after Donald Trump declined to endorse McCain in his upcoming primary.

Read more: politico.com
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

611
CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:10:03pm

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

CHARLES! QUICK! Check out SMOTI’s website right now:

[Embedded content]

I arf you not!

LOLOL—the exact same photo right down to the cars & people in the street:

ooyuz.com

612
lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:10:15pm

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

613
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:10:43pm

re: #610 b.d.

I guess that meeting didn’t go so well.

Maybe he told Pence to take a hike when Pence asked him to endorse Trump in return? Wait, who am I kidding, McCain has nor moral compass left.

614
FormerDirtDart  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:10:43pm

Yeah, he’s gonna have to respond to this…
Your fault John, never should have picked Palin…

615
Alephnaught  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:12:16pm

re: #581 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]
Portland spox @jessgrondin:

• Trump rally at capacity.
• 1,600 attending, plus 200 media. #mepolitics

200 media? In Maine? Given how many mainstream media people have been blocked by the Trump campaign, how on Earth is there as many as 200? Or is this another blowhard claim?

616
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:12:16pm
617
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:12:54pm

Holy Cow, the wingnuts have riled up Jim Wright - specifically, those who are spreading a nasty rumor about Captain Khan.

Facebook Post

618
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:14:02pm

re: #610 b.d.

I guess that meeting didn’t go so well.

You gotta wonder if and/or when McCain decides he’s had enough of this bullshit.

Not as if he didn’t ask for it, though.

619
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:15:42pm

re: #612 lawhawk

yep, I pointed it out a couple of hours ago when I saw it in other tweets.
littlegreenfootballs.com

620
A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:16:06pm

re: #617 makeitstop

Yeah, lying about someone’s service to their country pisses Jim off. He’s totally scared of nobody’s bullshit. That just crossed my newsfeed a little while ago.

I also have to say, my Facebook experience has improved vastly since I unfollowed all the wingnuts I know. Some stuff seeps in but most of it is gone and I like it.

621
gocart mozart  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:17:28pm
622
makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:21:15pm

re: #620 A Mom Anon

Yeah, lying about someone’s service to their country pisses Jim off. He’s totally scared of nobody’s bullshit. That just crossed my newsfeed a little while ago.

I also have to say, my Facebook experience has improved vastly since I unfollowed all the wingnuts I know. Some stuff seeps in but most of it is gone and I like it.

I would so love to buy Jim Wright a beer and thank him.

I unfollowed most of my wingnuts right after the Michael Brown killing, when they all showed their racist asses. One shows up every so often, at which point they join the unfollowed. Much better.

623
Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:22:22pm

re: #621 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Coming from the Rabid Religious Right. Priceless.

624
Big Beautiful Door  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:26:23pm

re: #585 b.d.

Why is Trump campaigning in Maine?

Maine selects electors by congressional district, and Trump has a good shot at winning an elector in the 2nd.

625
Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 12:34:04pm

re: #617 makeitstop

I will have to save that for later, since I can’t do facebook at work.

626
ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:26:11pm

re: #608 makeitstop

Today, we are all Clevelanders. Hee hee hee…

No problem putting up misleading images…but Hillary is crooked and conniving.


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Incredibles 2 Official Teaser Trailer The teaser trailer for "Incredibles 2" is here. Disney/Pixar's "Incredibles 2" opens in theatres in 3D June 15th, 2018. Everyone’s favorite family of superheroes is back in “Incredibles 2” – but this time Helen (voice of Holly Hunter) is ...
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Deadpool’s “Wet on Wet” Teaser After surviving a near fatal bovine attack, a disfigured cafeteria chef (Wade Wilson) struggles to fulfill his dream of becoming Mayberry’s hottest bartender while also learning to cope with his lost sense of taste. Searching to regain his spice ...
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Voice of America Reporter Outed as Alt-Right However, using information Fatzick himself posted on Reddit — including his age, girlfriend’s name, former employers, friends, location, educational background, and sports affiliations — this reporter was able to tie the vile posts of UncleSam4200 to the Voice of ...
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Gary Clark Jr - Come Together (Official Music Video) [From the Justice League Movie Soundtrack] Official Video for "Come Together" by Gary Clark Jr. featured in the Justice League Movie trailer. In theaters November 17th 2017.Directed by Kris Merc Get the song now at garyclarkjr.com Check out the Justice League soundtrack here: lnk.to Follow ...
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Kimbra - Top of the World (Official Music Video)New from Kimbra The new single Top of the World is available now on Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and more. Get the single here - kmbra.me The new studio album Primal Heart out wwide January 19th, 2018Preorder now - ...
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The Barr Brothers - Song That I Heard (Live on KEXP) kexp.org presents The Barr Brothers performing "Song That I Heard" live at Breakglass Studios during POP Montreal 2017. Recorded September 16, 2017. Audio Engineer: James BenjaminCameras: Jim Beckmann, Ian Cameron & Scott HolpainenEditor: Jim Beckmann kexp.orgpopmontreal.combreakglass.ca With support from ...
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Left Cries Foul, but Electoral College Prevents Tyranny of the Majority I'm speechless...this is what we have to fight against: Image: constitution-1486010_960_720.jpg Author: Paul Jenkins(Paul Jenkins is editor of the anchoragedailyplanet.com, a division of Porcaro Communications) The political left and its mouthpiece, The New York Times, are still fuming over ...
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Tune-Yards - Look at Your Hands (Official Video) 'Look at Your Hands' by Tune-Yards. New album 'I can feel you creep into my private life' is released January 19th 2018: smarturl.it Video by Michael SpeedFootage by Marisa Gesualdi & Jennifer SommerAdditional photos by Nate Brenner, Ginger Fierstein ...
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