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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:53:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:54:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:55:54pm

It’s a standard beauty pageant answer…good grief

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:58:01pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s a standard beauty pageant answer…good grief

There isn’t gonna be a swimsuit competition, is there?

[ shudder ]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:58:25pm
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A Mom Anon  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:58:28pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well he does/did run one of those didn’t he?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:58:43pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s a standard beauty pageant answer…good grief

Well, after he nukes everyone, it’ll be real peaceful, I guess.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 4, 2016 • 1:59:40pm

BREAKING! WOW - Line for TRUMP RALLY!!!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:00:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:01:38pm
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CuriousLurker  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:02:56pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s a standard beauty pageant answer…good grief

LOLOLOL, emphasis mine:

Through Trump’s rise, fall and rebirth, there was one major real estate project that he tried to keep. The tale of what happened to that property should be of interest to anyone looking for insight into how Trump might perform as president. It was a deal of genuine magnitude and would have put him atop the New York real estate market. And he screwed it up.

The deal involved Manhattan’s West Side Yards, a sprawling, 77-acre tract abutting the Hudson River between 59th and 72nd Streets and at the time the largest privately owned undeveloped stretch of land in New York City. […]

bloomberg.com

He also got in a fight with then-mayor Ed Koch. It’s quite an entertaining read.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:03:14pm
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A Cranky One  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:03:37pm

About the protesters holding up pocket Constitutions at the Trump rally: I loved John Oliver’s description of Khans action: “an American founding document being inspirationally used as a middle finger…”

And deservedly so.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:05:46pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Excellent.

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Brian J.  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:07:12pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Thank you for letting us know, Mr. President. I really think it’d be helpful for us to hear this more often.

Speaking of getting bombed… it’s a fifteen-point lead now, if Marist is to be believed.

mcclatchydc.com

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:07:26pm

re: #13 A Cranky One

About the protesters holding up pocket Constitutions at the Trump rally: I loved John Oliver’s description of Khans action: “an American founding document being inspirationally used as a middle finger…”

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And deservedly so.

LEAVE DONALD TRUMP ALOOOOONE!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:08:05pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

“Polls are skewed, election is rigged, etc”

/

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:09:11pm

re: #13 A Cranky One

About the protesters holding up pocket Constitutions at the Trump rally: I loved John Oliver’s description of Khans action: “an American founding document being inspirationally used as a middle finger…”

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And deservedly so.

Hey, put that Constitution down! We’re the only ones who can fly the flag and wave the Constitution because we’re Patriots!!!

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:09:20pm

Obama getting ready to troll Trump again, in part two of Reuters’ question…

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A Cranky One  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:09:27pm

Obama can talk about all the bombing attacks on ISIL, but we all know that the bombs won’t work unless “radical Islamic terrorism” is written on the bombs.

///

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Stanley Sea  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:09:40pm

I received the random TSA pre check. Blessed. Orlando airport is crazy.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:09:42pm

I was preparing this comment for the last thread when it indicated a new thread started. It goes to a tweet VB put up by Bennie “Brainless” Shapiro after he saw MSNBC posting a screen chyron saying Trump really didn’t see an Iran video.

Ben Shapiro ✔ @benshapiro
I look forward to the MSNBC chyron, “HILLARY CLINTON LIES (AGAIN) ABOUT FBI SAYING SHE WAS ‘TRUTHFUL’”
3:34 PM - 4 Aug 2016
56 56 Retweets 104 104 likes

I am so damn sick of Clinton email bullshit.

If anyone needs a good link to a good fact check site about the 3…yes three goddamn emails in question he is one you can use to pound people over the head with…even if it does no good, show them anyway.

And of those three, 2 were considered by FBI Director Comey as easy to miss and easy to mistake. Even the last of the three is questionable.

As Rep. John Lewis said to Comey (paraphrased) out of 30,000 emails all you found were three emails?

But the media never says anything about that.

Here is the link…

factcheck.org - Revisiting Clinton and Classified Information

Here is basically a summary at the beginning of the article:

At his July 5 press conference, FBI Director James Comey said a “very small number” of emails sent and received by Hillary Clinton over her private server “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information” — contradicting Clinton’s claims that she “never received nor sent any material that was marked classified.”

But now we are learning more about those emails from Comey, who testified before the House Oversight Committee on July 7, and State Department spokesman John Kirby, who addressed these emails at press briefings on July 6 and 7:

Comey said three emails had “portion markings” on them indicating that they were classified, but they were not properly marked and therefore could have been missed by Clinton. He said the emails were marked as classified with the letter “C” in the body of the email.

Kirby said the State Department believes that at least two of the emails were mistakenly marked as confidential. He could not speak to the third email, saying ​the department didn’t have​ “all of the records and documents that the FBI used in their investigation.”

Comey told the committee he is “highly confident” that FBI investigators consulted with the State Department about the marked emails. But he said he did not know that the department believes that any of them were marked in error.

The issue is a bit complicated, but important, because it provides Clinton with a stronger defense against claims that she sent and received material that was marked as classified over her private server when she was secretary of state.

- - CUT - -

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Danack  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:09:51pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Interesting - the journalist managed to copy and paste the URL of their inbox, rather than the actual poll: mail.google.com

Also, ha ha!

Polls take a day or two to put together, and people also take a few days after seeing a candidate saying something really dumb before changing their mind….Trumps falling in the polls still has a ways to go from the stupid stuff he’s said this week.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:10:38pm

@Charles Johnson:
You said that UpChuck was following lizards on Twitter, what’s his current username so I can preemptively block him?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:10:55pm
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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:11:03pm

‘If they wanna be president, they better start acting like a president.’ LOL

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:11:07pm

The Rage Furby is definitely following a lot of the people who follow me. Here’s his list: twitter.com

If you’re on it, you probably want to block him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:11:48pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is definitely following a lot of the people who follow me. Here’s his list: twitter.com

If you’re on it, you probably want to block him.

And don’t just block him, report him as spam or something.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:12:16pm

re: #22 ObserverArt

I was preparing this comment for the last thread when it indicated a new thread started. It goes to a tweet VB put up by Bennie “Brainless” Shapiro after he saw MSNBC posting a screen chyron saying Trump really didn’t see an Iran video.

I am so damn sick of Clinton email bullshit.

If anyone needs a good link to a good fact check site about the 3…yes three goddamn emails in question he is one you can use to pound people over the head with…even if it does no good, show them anyway.

And of those three, 2 were considered by FBI Director Comey as easy to miss and easy to mistake. Even the last of the three is questionable.

As Rep. John Lewis said to Comey (paraphrased) out of 30,000 emails all you found were three emails?

But the media never says anything about that.

Here is the link…

factcheck.org - Revisiting Clinton and Classified Information

Here is basically a summary at the beginning of the article:

YES BUT 30K MISSING EMAILS AND RUSSIANS AND CHINESE AND ISLAMICISTS HACKED HER SERVOR AND STOLD OUR SECRETS!!! TREASON!!!1

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:12:58pm
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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:14:52pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is definitely following a lot of the people who follow me. Here’s his list: twitter.com

If you’re on it, you probably want to block him.

And, of course, the first account he followed was Michelle Fields.

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scottslemmons  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:16:04pm

re: #18 Sir John Barron

Hey, put that Constitution down! We’re the only ones who can fly the flag and wave the Constitution because we’re Patriots!!!

I’ve always said — if you were to sit Republicans down and make them read both the Constitution and the Bible all the way through, they’d demand they all be burned.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:16:40pm

re: #31 Timothy Watson

And, of course, the first account he followed was Michelle Fields.

Not creepy at all. Nah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:16:48pm

No, this is a story about alleged journalists who are nothing more than stenographers repeating talking points and don’t know how to do actual journalism.

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KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:17:32pm

re: #15 Brian J.

Thank you for letting us know, Mr. President. I really think it’d be helpful for us to hear this more often.

Speaking of getting bombed… it’s a fifteen-point lead now, if Marist is to be believed.

mcclatchydc.com

According to 538’s pollster grades, Marist gets an A and has a slight (0.7) Republican bias. Still, 15 points feels like an outlier, would need to see some other polls with similar numbers to believe it.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:17:57pm

re: #15 Brian J.

Thank you for letting us know, Mr. President. I really think it’d be helpful for us to hear this more often.

Speaking of getting bombed… it’s a fifteen-point lead now, if Marist is to be believed.

mcclatchydc.com

Marist is about the highest-rated poll, per 538s breakout.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:17:58pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No, this is a story about alleged journalists who are nothing more than stenographers repeating talking points and don’t know how to do actual journalism.

I think this nontroversy has Obama pretty pissed.

Probably mostly because he has to explain it to stupid people.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:19:10pm

re: #37 makeitstop

I think this nontroversy has Obama pretty pissed.

Probably mostly because he has to explain it to stupid people.

Did Obama explain the payment business, slow enough so that even derpers can understand it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:19:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:20:20pm

re: #38 Sir John Barron

Did Obama explain the payment business, slow enough so that even derpers can understand it?

See my #39. Even that explanation may be too complicated for some people.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:20:34pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

YES BUT CARTLOADS OF CASH!!!!!!!!!!!11

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:20:38pm

The president is really fed up with the stupidity.

Reporters are giggling as he points out the absurdity of a ‘rigged’ election.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:21:05pm

re: #38 Sir John Barron

Did Obama explain the payment business, slow enough so that even derpers can understand it?

Obama is going to be fun to watch for the next few months. I think he’s going to blast a few people. And after Hillary wins in Nov? I;m thinking epic takedowns of Ryan, Mitch, etc. I look forward to.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:21:24pm

re: #42 makeitstop

The president is really fed up with the stupidity.

Reporters are giggling as he points out the absurdity of a ‘rigged’ election.

Hope he’ll mention all the BS voter ID shenanigans R’s have been pulling and that the courts have been smacking down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:21:53pm
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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:22:09pm

re: #38 Sir John Barron

Did Obama explain the payment business, slow enough so that even derpers can understand it?

He explained it very slowly.

Bt you can pretty much see on his face how amazed and disgusted he is with the fact that he actually had to do it.

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sagehen  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:22:45pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

LOLOLOL, emphasis mine:

He also got in a fight with then-mayor Ed Koch. It’s quite an entertaining read.

I live a block in from that development. I’m on the 18th floor; I used to have a lovely sweeping view of the river. Now I look out on those buildings; the only way I can see the river is to stand at just the right angle to see a street-width portion.

On the upside, Riverside Park used to end at 72nd St, now it extends down to the cruise-ship docks at 56th. That bit of park is 1-1/2 blocks wide, there’s gazebos and suntanning platforms extending into the river, the pier at 70th has live music 3 days a week and and open-air restaurant, I spend a lot of time there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:22:46pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:23:09pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

.@POTUS: “Of course the elections will not be rigged. What does that even mean?”
— Mike Memoli

Hurr hurr it means blacks and Democrats will vote over and over many times must stop with True the Vote!!!!!!1

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:24:17pm

re: #49 Sir John Barron

Hurr hurr it means blacks and Democrats will vote over and over many times must stop with True the Vote!!!!!!1

Diebold machines…..

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:24:31pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

POTUS making Trump look ridiculous.

Although Trump is doing that himself already.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:25:40pm
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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:25:41pm

Barbara Starr is catching some serious shade right now, asking again about O’s statement on Trump’s lack of fitness to be president.

‘Paraphrasing: ‘I’m pretty sure I answered this question a few days ago, and I stand by what I said.’

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Sir John Barron  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:26:15pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

.@POTUS calls Trump’s “conspiracy theory” of rigged election “ridiculous. That doesn’t make any sense.”
— Mike Memoli

Uh, well, a major party nominating Trump doesn’t make any sense either, but that’s where we are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:26:19pm
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Jay C  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:26:37pm

He (Obama) should have pointed out that, coming from Republicans, the definition of a “rigged” election means one they didn’t win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:27:13pm

Cuteness break!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:29:02pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:29:10pm

Nowcast is a helluva drug.

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ipsos  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:31:06pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I so wish he’d just smiled and said, “Vote your conscience.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:31:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:32:38pm

POTUS shares a birthday with somebody else that’s pretty great:

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sagehen  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:33:02pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

Another fun detail —

he bragged in his book that the parcel was worth more than double the assessed value, how he’d fooled the city ha-ha so clever. So the City took him to court, the only evidence they offered was his own book. The judge doubled the assessment, doubled his property tax bill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:33:25pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:34:05pm

re: #37 makeitstop

I think this nontroversy has Obama pretty pissed.

Probably mostly because he has to explain it to stupid people.

And sadly, it always is a waste of time because the wingnuts won’t believe any of it anyway…it’s coming from Obama.

All we can hope is enough sensible people hear it and understand it.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:34:12pm

re: #46 makeitstop

He explained it very slowly.

Bt you can pretty much see on his face how amazed and disgusted he is with the fact that he actually had to do it.

Just about half the nation he leads have the mental capacity of Cartman on meth.

I sure as hell couldn’t take being in Obama’s position.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:34:56pm

re: #22 ObserverArt

I was preparing this comment for the last thread when it indicated a new thread started. It goes to a tweet VB put up by Bennie “Brainless” Shapiro after he saw MSNBC posting a screen chyron saying Trump really didn’t see an Iran video.

I am so damn sick of Clinton email bullshit.

If anyone needs a good link to a good fact check site about the 3…yes three goddamn emails in question he is one you can use to pound people over the head with…even if it does no good, show them anyway.

And of those three, 2 were considered by FBI Director Comey as easy to miss and easy to mistake. Even the last of the three is questionable.

As Rep. John Lewis said to Comey (paraphrased) out of 30,000 emails all you found were three emails?

But the media never says anything about that.

Here is the link…

factcheck.org - Revisiting Clinton and Classified Information

Here is basically a summary at the beginning of the article:

Facts, who needs ‘em?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:35:43pm

Major Fail:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:36:38pm
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KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:38:10pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

three subsets at or below the crazification factor. That is, quite frankly, incredibly impressive.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:38:22pm

re: #53 makeitstop

Barbara Starr is catching some serious shade right now, asking again about O’s statement on Trump’s lack of fitness to be president.

‘Paraphrasing: ‘I’m pretty sure I answered this question a few days ago, and I stand by what I said.’

Good. The media needs to be confronted about its tendency to view this election as being business as usual.

Trump is the Platonic Ideal of “unqualified for public office”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:38:36pm

in other news:

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:38:48pm
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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:38:48pm

Oh, for fucking fuck’s sake.

Zeldin is one stupid motherfucker. I’m ashamed that he even lives in the same fucking state that I call home.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:39:47pm

President Obama.

Many Americans do not deserve this level of explanation you give for your decisions. You are far too logical and give great detail and most likely it will all fly right over many a haters head.

But this American appreciates it and thanks you for it. I’m going to miss you…as you are truly BIG LEAGUE!!!

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:39:57pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:40:41pm

re: #74 makeitstop

Oh, for fucking fuck’s sake.

Zeldin is one stupid motherfucker. I’m ashamed that he even lives in the same fucking state that I call home.

It is now an article of RWNJ faith that we paid Iran $400 million in ransom money, expect to hear a lot more about it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:41:25pm

I didn’t think it was even possible for SMOTI to get stupider but he does

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:41:36pm

re: #53 makeitstop

Barbara Starr is catching some serious shade right now, asking again about O’s statement on Trump’s lack of fitness to be president.

‘Paraphrasing: ‘I’m pretty sure I answered this question a few days ago, and I stand by what I said.’

I wanted to reach into my TV screen and gently nudge her and ask WTF???

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:42:26pm

Jim Mikleshevsky (however you spell it) takes his last question in the WH press corps to yell at Obama as to whether he has come up for any new ideas as to how to fight ISIL.

Obama lets out an audible sigh, then patiently answers the question. I do think that he wanted to walk over and smack the shit out of him, though.

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mmmirele  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:42:30pm

re: #21 Stanley Sea

I received the random TSA pre check. Blessed. Orlando airport is crazy.

I question how random the TSA pre-check is anymore. I got it on both legs of my trip to Boston in June. I’ve never gotten it more than on one leg on any trip prior to that.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:42:48pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cuteness break!

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Got puppies…need kittens!

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:45:48pm

Trump better hurry and start advertising in those secret states he brags about.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:46:29pm

re: #74 makeitstop

Oh, for fucking fuck’s sake.

Zeldin is one stupid motherfucker. I’m ashamed that he even lives in the same fucking state that I call home.

I don’t care what a GOP asshat has to say. What irritates me is both-siderist bullshit reporting:

The $400 million payment, which was airlifted the same day Iran released four long-held American prisoners in their custody, was touted as a major revelation this week even though the Obama administration disclosed it in January. Conservatives have charged the secret payment amounts to a point-blank quid pro quo, with the massive ransom pouring into coffers that back state-funded terrorism, while the administration says the repayment was from an incomplete arms deal dating back to 1979.

I’ve emphasized the part where GOP propaganda is repeated as fact by the reporter, despite its being demonstrably false as reported in the previous damn sentence. Wouldn’t it be a miracle if the reporters did their fucking jobs for once? Something like this would be a decent start

The $400 million payment, which was airlifted the same day Iran released four long-held American prisoners in their custody, was touted as a major revelation this week in GOP propaganda even though the Obama administration disclosed it in January. Conservatives have charged the payment amounts to a point-blank quid pro quo (this is false), with the massive ransom pouring into coffers that back state-funded terrorism, while the administration says the repayment was from an incomplete arms deal dating back to 1979 (this is true).

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:46:38pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Major Fail:

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WTF??? Allen is usually better than that. I swear, this election is making a whole ton of people look really stupid and dishonest. I guess the quest for hits means you have to sell your integrity…if you ever had any.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:47:41pm

re: #85 ObserverArt

WTF??? Allen is usually better than that. I swear, this election is making a whole ton of people look really stupid and dishonest. I guess the quest for hits means you have to sell your integrity…if you ever had any.

I know…I’m still rolling my eyes over that one.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:48:53pm
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KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:49:36pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s some more interesting numbers from that poll:

White College Educated voters break for Clinton 48-38. That’s a subset of the population that has typically gone for the GOP in recent years. She also leads 48-40 among voters over the age of 60. Last thing, the poll has Latinos at about 12% of respondents, I’m guessing Latino turnout will be higher and that won’t be a good thing for Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:49:53pm

re: #83 Lidane

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:50:05pm

And then Obama gives Mikleshevsky a bonus question.

You’re way too classy for this guy, Mr. President.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:50:11pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:51:51pm

re: #85 ObserverArt

WTF??? Allen is usually better than that. I swear, this election is making a whole ton of people look really stupid and dishonest. I guess the quest for hits means you have to sell your integrity…if you ever had any.

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know…I’m still rolling my eyes over that one.

I don’t know anything about Allen’s bent, but that tweet is so syntactically screwed up that it can mean one thing or its opposite.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:52:09pm

:D

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:52:50pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

So we’ll all get to see if a normal GOP political campaign is really necessary in this era of the Republican Zerg-swarm of angry bigots.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:53:14pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

I don’t know anything about Allen’s bent, but that tweet is so syntactically screwed up that it can mean one thing or its opposite.

I tried to parse it as some sort of snark, but it still just came out as a totally fail.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:53:52pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

I don’t know anything about Allen’s bent, but that tweet is so syntactically screwed up that it can mean one thing or its opposite.

He has worked for I believe Bloomberg, Politico, Vox and even with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. So it is not like he hasn’t been around the game.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:54:40pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

He has worked for I believe Bloomberg, Politico, Vox and even with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. So it is not like he hasn’t been around the game.

Did his work for them include writing in English?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:55:18pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:55:28pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

I don’t know anything about Allen’s bent, but that tweet is so syntactically screwed up that it can mean one thing or its opposite.

Double negatives make everything so much easier to comprehend.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:55:58pm

And now brainiac Chuck “I can’t help myself” Todd says Obama came across a touch defensive when asked questions about Iran payments.

Gak!!!

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:56:02pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:56:15pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

LOLOLOL, emphasis mine:

He also got in a fight with then-mayor Ed Koch. It’s quite an entertaining read.

Imagine if he had succeeded. Somewhere in an alternate universe, 9/11 was an attack on the Trump Megatower, and he’s ahead in the polls 20 points right now because people remember his leadership after the attack.

Then there’s a time rift and all the multiverse Trumps meet and have to coordinate a massive deal to seal the time hole, like in that one ST:TNG episode…

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:56:48pm

re: #97 Decatur Deb

Did his work for them include writing in English?

Used too…but I don’t know. He may have decided to go strictly jibberish.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:57:38pm

You don’t have to watch it. Just trust me that it’s heart-wrenching:

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:58:19pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:58:35pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:58:36pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

You don’t have to watch it. Just trust me that it’s heart-wrenching:

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Kid’s a thug. Why won’t he release his daycare record?

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KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:59:03pm

re: #102 Pawn of the Oppressor

Imagine if he had succeeded. Somewhere in an alternate universe, 9/11 was an attack on the Trump Megatower, and he’s ahead in the polls 20 points right now because people remember his leadership after the attack.

Then there’s a time rift and all the multiverse Trumps meet and have to coordinate a massive deal to seal the time hole, like in that one ST:TNG episode…

If that Trump megatower would have actually been built and was part of the attack, there’s probably a better chance that Donald Trump is a name on the memorial than a name on the ballot. I’m guessing his ego would not have allowed him to not have an office and/or apartment there.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 2:59:10pm

re: #102 Pawn of the Oppressor

Imagine if he had succeeded. Somewhere in an alternate universe, 9/11 was an attack on the Trump Megatower, and he’s ahead in the polls 20 points right now because people remember his leadership after the attack.

Then there’s a time rift and all the multiverse Trumps meet and have to coordinate a massive deal to seal the time hole, like in that one ST:TNG episode…

Not even an alternate universe plot can make real leadership from Trump in response to something like 9/11 plausible.

If Trump were ever anywhere near a major terrorist attack, he’d defecate in panic so violently he’d launch himself into the sun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:00:08pm

re: #99 EPR-radar

Double negatives make everything so much easier to comprehend.

I’m writing up a village board meeting article and one of the agenda items was a zoning case where the motion was to approve the zoning commission’s recommendation to deny the application. So voting “aye” meant “nay”.
It’s like ballot initiatives that are worded in such a way that voting “yes” means “no” and “no” means “yes”.

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makeitstop  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:00:30pm

re: #101 jaunte

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Where’s she been lately? I miss her posts.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:00:50pm

Note too that the grave markers around Cpt. Khan include Christians, Jews, and Hindus.

All races and creeds and ethnicities have given their lives for the nation.

Trump just sees them as disposable heroes.

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:01:44pm

re: #111 makeitstop

Where’s she been lately? I miss her posts.

I see her mostly on Twitter.

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gwangung  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:01:57pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

You don’t have to watch it. Just trust me that it’s heart-wrenching:

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Compare and contrast

pilotonline.com

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:03:32pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:04:33pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Kid’s a thug. Why won’t he release his daycare record?

If that’s the shooting I’m thinking of, his mother was a sovereign citizen nutbar who was armed and threatening cops, and made the kid stay with her after she was surrounded.

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nines09  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:05:36pm

Have they found Chris Christie floating face down in a pool yet? Inquiring minds want to know.

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KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:06:42pm

re: #115 Lidane

In the days of DVRs, Netflix, and Hulu, is there any solid return on investment for political TV ads? I mean, just about the only thing that anyone watches live now is sports, right? Isn’t money better spent on GOTV efforts?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:07:27pm

re: #116 Pawn of the Oppressor

If that’s the shooting I’m thinking of, his mother was a sovereign citizen nutbar who was armed and threatening cops, and made the kid stay with her after she was surrounded.

Yes, SovCit is a strangely equal-opportunity scam. That’s because it is spread for profit as tax evasion BS by motel-based con artists.

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:07:49pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:07:56pm

re: #74 makeitstop

Oh, for fucking fuck’s sake.

Zeldin is one stupid motherfucker. I’m ashamed that he even lives in the same fucking state that I call home.

First comment:

Photo of Rep. Zeldin, dreaming of the dacha in southeastern Ukraine that Team Trump promised him…

I’ve been on this Russian subversion kick for about 3 years and I must say that I am delighted to see it finally being moved to the front burner. At first, RWNJs (and some on the left) could shout it down as a kind of McCarthyism in reverse. That precedent is indeed cause for caution. However, as more and more evidence has accumulated the truth has become almost transparently obvious to all but the densest observers (ie Republicans and Russian tools). The evidence of right wing and conspiracy industry collusion with the Kremlin is far better than McCarthy or HUAC ever dreamed of having against American leftists. Trump even has a paid Russian agent, General Flynn, on his staff.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:08:27pm

Trump loses double digits to Hillary in November. And he loses the Trump University case after the election. Oh he will explode and it will be glorious.

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ipsos  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:09:00pm

NBC/WSJ poll drops at 5:55.

At 6, MSNBC goes to the Bloomberg talking heads who… taped at 5 and can’t cover the new poll.

Ugh.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:09:02pm

re: #122 GlutenFreeJesus

Trump loses double digits to Hillary in November. And he loses the Trump University case after the election. Oh he will explode and it will be glorious.

Scanners.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:09:56pm

As a palate cleanser to all the latest Trump madness, here’s some bears at Katmai NP.

explore.org

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:10:02pm

Trump goobers finding out that PA is fool’s gold for the GOP:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:10:11pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

I was thinking more along the lines of a watermelon at a Gallagher show.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:10:23pm

re: #120 Lidane

Emily Cahn ✔ @CahnEmily
.@NBCNews/@WSJ poll shows @realDonaldTrump getting just 1% of the black vote. ONE. PERCENT.
6:04 PM - 4 Aug 2016
18 18 Retweets 20 20 likes

<extreme snark ahead>

See, this is why we don’t need African Americans voting…they don’t even bother to drag their butts out to vote like good white ‘merican patriots.

<extreme snark off>

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:10:39pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:10:51pm

weapons grade rationalization

He is egotistical, bombastic, and brash. He often lacks nuance in his statements. Sometimes he blurts out mistaken ideas (such as bombing the families of terrorists) that he later must abandon. He insults people. He can be vindictive when people attack him. He has been slow to disown and rebuke the wrongful words and actions of some angry fringe supporters. He has been married three times and claims to have been unfaithful in his marriages. These are certainly flaws, but I don’t think they are disqualifying flaws in this election.

Under President Obama, a liberal federal government has seized more and more control over our lives. But this can change. This year we have an unusual opportunity to defeat Hillary Clinton and the pro-abortion, pro-gender-confusion, anti-religious liberty, tax-and-spend, big government liberalism that she champions. I believe that defeating that kind of liberalism would be a morally right action. Therefore I feel the force of the words of James: “Whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin” (James 4:17).

m.townhall.com

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Danack  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:11:19pm

re: #88 KGxvi

White College Educated voters break for Clinton 48-38.

Texas is in play.

Apparently 56% of white college educated people voted for the Republican nominee in 2012. Using projects.fivethirtyeight.com and then changing just that group to be 55-45 for Clinton, and Texas is just shy of switching to voting for the Democratic candidate.

And these polls still won’t reflect the scheisse-storm of the past couple of days.

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freetoken  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:11:57pm

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:13:33pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:13:34pm

re: #131 Danack

I live in Texas, and while I would love for that to be the case, it just isn’t this cycle. Get back to me in ten years. You have no idea how much she is hated around here, it’s 5X worse than Obama, and I never thought that was possible.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:14:26pm

re: #119 Decatur Deb

Yes, SovCit is a strangely equal-opportunity scam. That’s because it is spread for profit as tax evasion BS by motel-based con artists.

JJ MacNab is good to follow on Twitter. She got some coverage during the Malheur insurrection-and-snacks party. She covered the boy’s mother on August 2nd. Apparently the boy’s mother had some ideas roughly akin to the ideological strain of the cop killer in Baton Rouge.

Like anybody who’s ever worked for a bank, I’ve been trained on SovCit payment and title scams, but like everybody else in this crackpot social media world, they’ve apparently decided to double down on the crazy and start getting shooty.

twitter.com

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KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:14:50pm

re: #131 Danack

Texas is in play.

Apparently 56% of white college educated people voted for the Republican nominee in 2012. Using projects.fivethirtyeight.com and then changing just that group to be 55-45 for Clinton, and Texas is just shy of switching to voting for the Democratic candidate.

And these polls still won’t reflect the scheisse-storm of the past couple of days.

Not only that, you have to figure that the Latino and Asian/Other vote is also going to see pretty solid movement towards Clinton (not to mention increased turnout).

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wrenchwench  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:16:12pm

He wrote the book on top of the stack.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:19:40pm

re: #130 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Page after page of compare and contrast on a Trump SCOTUS vs. a Clinton SCOTUS, laced throughout with enough whining about persecution of Christians in the US to gag a maggot. Totally pointless.

Trump’s hypothetical SCOTUS is remarkably irrelevant given the likelihood that POTUS VonClownstick would start both Civil War II and World War III within his first few weeks.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:22:47pm
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KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:24:25pm

re: #134 Frankie Five Angels

I live in Texas, and while I would love for that to be the case, it just isn’t this cycle. Get back to me in ten years. You have no idea how much she is hated around here, it’s 5X worse than Obama, and I never thought that was possible.

California flipped overnight because of Prop 187. In ‘94 Fienstein won her Senate seat 47-45. By 2000 Fienstein won with 55%. Boxer won 48-43 in ‘92 and by ‘96 it was 53-43. Trump could very easily result in the same sort of swings nationally.

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Ubiq  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:24:26pm

re: #139 lawhawk

To be fair, he was right both times.

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KingKenrod  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:26:31pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:26:56pm

re: #134 Frankie Five Angels

I live in Texas, and while I would love for that to be the case, it just isn’t this cycle. Get back to me in ten years. You have no idea how much she is hated around here, it’s 5X worse than Obama, and I never thought that was possible.

It’s true that the white suburban and small town masses hate the Hildabeast with the stench of a million cesspools, but they are not the whole population. Educated people and minorities make a large voting bloc by themselves. A further shift with the former, combined with an all-out GOTV effort, could put Hillary over the top. Additionally, there are a lot of veterans in Texas. The polls showing a solid Trump lead among veterans (12-13 points) also predate the uproar over the abuse of the Khan family. We could see an important shift there as well.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:27:55pm

re: #140 KGxvi

California flipped overnight because of Prop 187. In ‘94 Fienstein won her Senate seat 47-45. By 2000 Fienstein won with 55%. Boxer won 48-43 in ‘92 and by ‘96 it was 53-43. Trump could very easily result in the same sort of swings nationally.

It’s worth noting that Prop 187 passed and was struck down by the courts. Meaning that the worst thing that could happen for the GOP is for Trump to actually win, because his administration couldn’t possibly be anything other than an unmitigated disaster.

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Interesting Times  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:28:23pm

re: #143 Shiplord Kirel

What about the Gary Johnson effect? Could he pull enough votes from the Trumpster Fire?

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KGxvi  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:30:37pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

It’s worth noting that Prop 187 passed and was struck down by the courts. Meaning that the worst thing that could happen for the GOP is for Trump to actually win, because his administration couldn’t possibly be anything other than an unmitigated disaster.

This is very true. And it passed rather overwhelmingly 59-41. I don’t have any data to back it up, but I suspect there were more than a few voters in California who came to regret their decision to vote for Prop 187.

As far as the possibility of a Trump administration, all I’m going to say is that I recently got a passport… you know, just in case.

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lawhawk  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:31:35pm

re: #141 Ubiq

Yes, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to predict a post-convention bounce. Trump got the equivalent of a dead-cat bounce. Since it barely lasted a week. And polls basically had them within the MOE.

Hillary not only came out of the DNC with a bounce, but she’s adding to her lead.

The polls are showing her pulling away.

And there’s no way Trump can alter his campaign posture since he has no other option. He’s all in on the xenophobia/nativist bigotry.

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:33:36pm

“For the first time in history, there’s a new rule,” explains journalist Jorge Ramos in the video. “No one, absolutely no one, can make it to the White House without the Hispanic vote.”

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gwangung  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:34:53pm

re: #147 lawhawk

Yes, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to predict a post-convention bounce. Trump got the equivalent of a dead-cat bounce. Since it barely lasted a week. And polls basically had them within the MOE.

Hillary not only came out of the DNC with a bounce, but she’s adding to her lead.

The polls are showing her pulling away.

And there’s no way Trump can alter his campaign posture since he has no other option. He’s all in on the xenophobia/nativist bigotry.

I think the lead’s going to shrink a little; it can’t help but do that. Hope folks don’t panic, though I’m sure Trump will crow about it…

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calochortus  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:35:37pm

Speaking of CA politics, apparently Bernie Sanders did the environment a favor in the Bay Area. We had Prop AA on the ballot-a parcel tax to be used to restore and maintain SF Bay. Probably because there was an actual presidential primary race that people cared about, Dems turned out in sufficient numbers to pass it with 70% of the vote.

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Great White Snark  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:37:47pm

Seen the polls, and now this. Not a bad day at all

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gwangung  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:38:46pm

re: #151 Great White Snark

Seen the polls, and now this. Not a bad day at all

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Let’s apply some operant conditioning, shall we?

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Scottishdragon  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:40:14pm

re: #147 lawhawk

Yes, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to predict a post-convention bounce. Trump got the equivalent of a dead-cat bounce. Since it barely lasted a week. And polls basically had them within the MOE.

Hillary not only came out of the DNC with a bounce, but she’s adding to her lead.

The polls are showing her pulling away.

And there’s no way Trump can alter his campaign posture since he has no other option. He’s all in on the xenophobia/nativist bigotry.

You get one shot at an introduction to the POTUS race and Trump has had his introduction. People who keep saying he has a chance to turn this around before September are whistling past the graveyard. His numbers may improve a bit…but he has branded himself as effectively as Romney did with his 47% remark. This is going to stick. No matter what he says from here on out, and even if he somehow manages to not have another public meltdown, he has I am a giant walking pustulant scrotum tattooed to his forehead.

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Danack  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:40:37pm

re: #134 Frankie Five Angels

I live in Texas, and while I would love for that to be the case, it just isn’t this cycle. Get back to me in ten years.

This might help:

Also, lol:

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:41:02pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:41:38pm

re: #145 Interesting Times

What about the Gary Johnson effect? Could he pull enough votes from the Trumpster Fire?

Quite possibly.

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TedStriker  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:42:45pm

re: #151 Great White Snark

Seen the polls, and now this. Not a bad day at all

.@WFTV: George Zimmerman punched in face at Fla. restaurant after reportedly bragging about killing Trayvon Martin. wftv.com

— Micah Grimes (@MicahGrimes) August 4, 2016

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:42:46pm
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Timothy Watson  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:43:10pm

re: #155 jaunte

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Chuck Todd: Obama nervous and indecisive when talking about his age.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:43:13pm

re: #151 Great White Snark

Seen the polls, and now this. Not a bad day at all

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Now, if only Buzz Aldrin could meet another Moon landing denier…….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:44:48pm

re: #151 Great White Snark

Seen the polls, and now this. Not a bad day at all

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Guy just seems to love trouble. Evil fuck.

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calochortus  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:46:20pm

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

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A link to send to anyone who thinks the Iran payment was a secret. Statement by the President Granted it’s around paragraph 17, but it was in a press release.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:46:33pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Guy just seems to love trouble. Evil fuck.

George Zimmermann needs to find a way to die that doesn’t involve anyone else in his mess.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:47:28pm

re: #162 calochortus

A link to send to anyone who thinks the Iran payment was a secret. Statement by the President Granted it’s around paragraph 17, but it was in a press release.

Anything not programmed into them by the operators at Fox News is a secret for wingnuts.

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:48:29pm

re: #134 Frankie Five Angels

I live in Texas, and while I would love for that to be the case, it just isn’t this cycle. Get back to me in ten years. You have no idea how much she is hated around here, it’s 5X worse than Obama, and I never thought that was possible.

While true, don’t discount the new voter ID rulings here in Texas and the increased motivation from the Dems to do GOTV in Latino and African-American areas.

I won’t suggest for a second that she’ll win here, but she may end up doing a lot better than anyone expects, especially if the goal is to stop Trump.

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451_Montag  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:48:50pm

re: #149 gwangung

I think the lead’s going to shrink a little; it can’t help but do that. Hope folks don’t panic, though I’m sure Trump will crow about it…

True, but I also think we are going to get an ex-smokers effect.

To switch from Trump loving/Hillary hating to supporting Hillary is a big deal for people, when they mentally make that switch, they often become more than a supporter, but an advocate. Like the ex smoker who spends their time trying to convince others to stop.

If this is the case I can see the bounce setting. If the nub-fingered-fuckwort has pissed of people enough to change, what can do to redeem them. The old adage of having to work 5 times as hard to win back am ex customer probably comes into play. Couple this with narrative effects, and Hillary’s GOTV efforts….

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:50:21pm

re: #165 Lidane

While true, don’t discount the new voter ID rulings here in Texas and the increased motivation from the Dems to do GOTV in Latino and African-American areas.

I won’t suggest for a second that she’ll win here, but she may end up doing a lot better than anyone expects, especially if the goal is to stop Trump.

The Democrats need to push a bit everywhere. Even if Texas and/or the House won’t go blue this cycle, picking off a GOP representative here and there is well worth the attempt.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:51:45pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Major Fail:

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My understanding of this whole “ransom” thing is:

Iran paid for products from us but a delivery of those products never happened.
Been under litigation for YEARS.
We now gave them back THEIR money that we had been sitting on.

So if this is correct, WE didn’t pay any ransom at all. Iran did to themselves.

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jaunte  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:51:56pm

Charles Pierce among the true believers:

“…oh, the things I learned. I learned that Elizabeth Warren used “affirmative action” to pay for her college education, which must have been quite a thing, since Senator Professor Warren graduated from the University of Houston in 1970, before there was affirmative action anywhere. I heard a deep dive into the international conspiracy of liberal fire marshals. I also learned that the Obamas and the Clintons really hate each other because the president stole the 2008 nomination from HRC through some shenanigans with ACORN, and that’s the reason HRC was not named vice president, because the president knew that, if he picked her, she would have him killed. Oh, the things I learned.”
esquire.com

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:52:26pm

Jesus.

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Skip Intro  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:52:52pm

Stockton mayor arrested; charges include crimes against children

This is guy who had his gun stolen, didn’t report it, and the gun was later used in a killing. That isn’t what he was arrested for.

ILVER LAKE — Mayor Anthony Silva was arrested this morning at his Mayor’s Youth Camp and charged with one felony and three misdemeanors involving minors one year ago during an annual summer camp he manages for 100 underprivileged children and teens.

The charges revolve around his involvement in a strip poker game, according to Amador County District Attorney’s office officials.

Silva, 42, also has been charged with a felony on suspicion of making an audio recording of the game and misdemeanors alleging he provided alcohol to a minor, contributed to the delinquency of a minor and cruelty to a child by endangering his or her health.

recordnet.com

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Ubiq  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:52:53pm

My mother is a Texan who I just don’t talk politics with anymore. She’s been a hard Republican for years, driven mostly by religious/social issues. And she hates Hillary Clinton with the passion of a white hot sun.

Today, she called me to check on her newly born grandson, and in the course of the conversation, she confessed that she’s probably voting for Clinton because Donald Trump is…. Donald Trump. I even told her that, as a Texan, she could probably vote Johnson with a clear conscience, but she wants to send a message that Trump is unacceptable by any measure. She then went off on the GOP congress for doing nothing about Zika.

I realize this is anecdotal, but I hung up the phone saying ‘this election may be a bigger wave than I originally anticipated’.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:53:00pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Jesus.

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But the Khans were oh so “vicious” to Trump.

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Skip Intro  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:53:39pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Distasteful? That’s all?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:53:39pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:53:48pm

re: #153 Scottishdragon

You get one shot at an introduction to the POTUS race and Trump has had his introduction. People who keep saying he has a chance to turn this around before September are whistling past the graveyard. His numbers may improve a bit…but he has branded himself as effectively as Romney did with his 47% remark. This is going to stick. No matter what he says from here on out, and even if he somehow manages to not have another public meltdown, he has I am a giant walking pustulant scrotum tattooed to his forehead.

Even the Bloomberg twins are saying with a 15 point lead Trump may not be able to close that large a gap. His only hope is to pull a rabbit out of his hat during the debates.

I am not going to believe anything until about 11:00 pm on November 8, 2016.

But I am going to watch all the Republicans running around with their hair on fire.

Oh Yeah! Going to watch that big league.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:54:04pm

re: #149 gwangung

I think the lead’s going to shrink a little; it can’t help but do that. Hope folks don’t panic, though I’m sure Trump will crow about it…

In the meantime these polls are inflicting irreparable damage to Trump’s fundraising and GOTV efforts. I also suspect that just like 2012 the polls are significantly underestimating minority turnout, especially because the conventional wisdom among (mostly white) pollsters is that with Obama off the ticket black voters will be less inclined to go to the polls. The RCP final average of polls in 2012 underestimated Obama’s support by 3.2 points, which is significant because that was right at or beyond the margin of error in most cases, and certainly way beyond what should’ve been the presumable tighter aggregate MoE.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:54:18pm

re: #135 Pawn of the Oppressor

JJ MacNab is good to follow on Twitter. She got some coverage during the Malheur insurrection-and-snacks party. She covered the boy’s mother on August 2nd. Apparently the boy’s mother had some ideas roughly akin to the ideological strain of the cop killer in Baton Rouge.

Like anybody who’s ever worked for a bank, I’ve been trained on SovCit payment and title scams, but like everybody else in this crackpot social media world, they’ve apparently decided to double down on the crazy and start getting shooty.

twitter.com

MacNab is great. I go to her timeline every once in a while so memory of the Malheur screwup doesn’t dissipate. (She was working on an organized Field Guide to the Nutjobs when the Bundys broke loose, but might have been overwhelmed by the flood of new derp.)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:55:20pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

In the meantime these polls are inflicting irreparable damage to Trump’s fundraising and GOTV efforts. I also suspect that just like 2012 the polls are significantly underestimating minority turnout, especially because the conventional wisdom among (mostly white) pollsters is that with Obama off the ticket black voters will be less inclined to go to the polls. The RCP final average of polls in 2012 underestimated Obama’s support by 3.2 points, which is significant because that was right at or beyond the margin of error in most cases, and certainly way beyond what should’ve been the presumable tighter aggregate MoE.

I agree. There’s a lot of assuming among mostly white pollsters that minority voters especially African-Americans aren’t as motivated to vote without Obama at the top of the ticket.

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Scottishdragon  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:56:12pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Jesus.

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Hey, I grew up in the Inland Empire and it is sun blasted concrete, meth, despair and batshit crazy conservatives.

Oh, and industrial warehouse porn studios.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:58:05pm

Billboard here in Chicago.

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451_Montag  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:58:39pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I agree. There’s a lot of assuming among mostly white pollsters that minority voters especially African-Americans aren’t as motivated to vote without Obama at the top of the ticket.

With the unashamed bigotry of the campaign this year I could see even greater enthusiasm to vote from POC. Vote for Obama, yeah historic claims versus “What the fuckety-fuck is going on???”

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MsJ  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:58:56pm

re: #112 lawhawk

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Note too that the grave markers around Cpt. Khan include Christians, Jews, and Hindus.

All races and creeds and ethnicities have given their lives for the nation.

Trump just sees them as disposable heroes.

FIFY. Trump doesn’t see heroes anywhere. Except when he looks in the mirror.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:59:02pm

re: #181 GlutenFreeJesus

Billboard here in Chicago.

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Tequilah! //

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Lidane  Aug 4, 2016 • 3:59:03pm

re: #151 Great White Snark

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:00:31pm

re: #182 451_Montag

With the unashamed bigotry of the campaign this year I could see even greater enthusiasm to vote from POC. Vote for Obama, yeah historic claims versus “What the fuckety-fuck is going on???”

Plus I think so many ignore that she’s genuinely well liked in the African-American community. My brothers who supported Bernie had no idea about that and thus were stumped when Bernie lost big to her in that group. Plus, you have African-American women and women in general who will be excited to vote for the first woman Presidential nominee.

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sagehen  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:01:15pm

re: #118 KGxvi

In the days of DVRs, Netflix, and Hulu, is there any solid return on investment for political TV ads? I mean, just about the only thing that anyone watches live now is sports, right? Isn’t money better spent on GOTV efforts?

People who don’t watch live TV are people who read blogs and social media; if they’re at all interested in politics, they click on the ads. Candidates don’t have the expense of airtime, so they can produce three times as many ads. If their social media team is good, they get a *lot* of benefit from them. I love Hillary’s “a word from your potential next President” spots that have been (obviously copied from an anti-Bush Letterman bit), and we all remember Bernie’s awesome Simon&Garfunkel “America” spot.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:01:39pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I agree. There’s a lot of assuming among mostly white pollsters that minority voters especially African-Americans aren’t as motivated to vote without Obama at the top of the ticket.

White people, especially white males, often take an intrinsically myopic view of identity politics. Too many of us find it easy to either dismiss minority thought processes or pigeonhole them into simplistic patterns, without even trying to imagine how we’d react if put in the same place. We don’t credit other groups with the intelligence to identify and act in their own self interest. If nothing else it speaks to the deteriorating effects being in the dominant sociological position has on perception.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:02:45pm

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

White people, especially white males, often take an intrinsically myopic view of identity politics. Too many of us find it easy to either dismiss minority thought processes or pigeonhole them into simplistic patterns, without even trying to imagine how we’d react if put in the same place. We don’t credit other groups with the intelligence to identify and act in their own self interest. If nothing else it speaks to the deteriorating effects being in the dominant sociological position has on perception.

Agreed.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:04:51pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

That image is so common on III Patriot sites that it’s seen as a cliche. I think there’s a t-shirt.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:05:38pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

In the meantime these polls are inflicting irreparable damage to Trump’s fundraising and GOTV efforts. I also suspect that just like 2012 the polls are significantly underestimating minority turnout, especially because the conventional wisdom among (mostly white) pollsters is that with Obama off the ticket black voters will be less inclined to go to the polls. The RCP final average of polls in 2012 underestimated Obama’s support by 3.2 points, which is significant because that was right at or beyond the margin of error in most cases, and certainly way beyond what should’ve been the presumable tighter aggregate MoE.

I really don’t think it likely that black turnout will be lower in 2016 than in 2008 or 2012. Minority voters in a democracy tend to be well aware of who their enemies are.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:07:24pm

It’s not even that they dislike and fear Trump. White voters even white liberals often can’t understand why Clinton is liked by them whereas someone like Bernie wasn’t as well as received. There was a point made in the article that minority voters are much more pragmatic by nature. They’re not less liberal than their white counterparts but they’re less prone to see compromise as a betrayal too.

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EPR-radar  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:07:31pm

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

White people, especially white males, often take an intrinsically myopic view of identity politics. Too many of us find it easy to either dismiss minority thought processes or pigeonhole them into simplistic patterns, without even trying to imagine how we’d react if put in the same place. We don’t credit other groups with the intelligence to identify and act in their own self interest. If nothing else it speaks to the deteriorating effects being in the dominant sociological position has on perception.

Agreed. The Palin VP pick in 2008 was a perfect example. The He-Man woman haters club really thought it would make a difference to put a woman on the GOP ticket.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:11:42pm

re: #22 ObserverArt

Saved for future use. I’ll wear it out.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:12:17pm

re: #191 EPR-radar

I really don’t think it likely that black turnout will be lower in 2016 than in 2008 or 2012. Minority voters in a democracy tend to be well aware of who their enemies are.

Most demographics don’t wake up and realize they have real political power to flex only to go back to sleep. Soon everyone will understand that attaining the Presidency is metaphysically impossible without going through black, hispanic and asian voters.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:14:34pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Plus I think so many ignore that she’s genuinely well liked in the African-American community. My brothers who supported Bernie had no idea about that and thus were stumped when Bernie lost big to her in that group. Plus, you have African-American women and women in general who will be excited to vote for the first woman Presidential nominee.

I had a meeting today with three African American women. One is from Miami, one from Cleveland and one from Columbus. They all know each other through business connections and my contact, the lady from Columbus wanted me to meet them.

We were all chatting and something was said about an African American issue and I said “that sounds like something Trump would think.” The two out of town women stopped and gave me some serious side-eye.

Then the lady from Cleveland said “uh uh…no, we are not going to talk about that.”

I quickly said…oh no, you misunderstand I am not a Trump supporter I was just joking. The Columbus lady, my client. said “yeah, he just told me earlier he went to the Clinton Kaine rally here the other day.”

And then they smiled and we all went back to our discussion.

There seems to be no room for Trump in the minds of these African American women. None.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:15:56pm

Breitbart exposes another horrible scandal: Seems the Democrats are actually trying to defeat Trump and move society past his hateful “movement.”

NYT: Left wants to destroy Trump’s movement, not just beat Trump (freep re-post)

Democrats have a new goal: not just to defeat Republican nominee Donald Trump in the November election, but also to “destroy” the movement behind him.

The New York Times reports Thursday that Democrats, encouraged by Trump’s struggles to deal with the controversy surrounding Khizr Khan, hope to press their advantage to “squash Mr. Trump’s movement.”

The Times cites David Plouffe, an Obama adviser-turned-Silicon Valley lobbyist, urging Democrats to “destroy” Trump and “his kind.”

Recently, California’s Lieutenant Governor, Gavin Newsom, made similar remarks, saying that even if Trump won, his campaign marked “newsom beginning of the end for gop” for the Republican Party.

Yet they will not acknowledge their own party’s well-documented attempt to re-elect Lincoln and destroy the Confederacy.
///

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:17:06pm

re: #197 Shiplord Kirel

Breitbart exposes another horrible scandal: Seems the Democrats are actually trying to defeat Trump and move society past his hateful “movement.”

NYT: Left wants to destroy Trump’s movement, not just beat Trump (freep re-post)

Yet they will not acknowledge their own party’s well-documented attempt to re-elect Lincoln and destroy the Confederacy.
///

Hell yeah I Want his hateful movemtn destroyed. I have no problem admitting that. HE’s created the largest fascist movement ever in our coutnry.

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ObserverArt  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:20:04pm

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

White people, especially white males, often take an intrinsically myopic view of identity politics. Too many of us find it easy to either dismiss minority thought processes or pigeonhole them into simplistic patterns, without even trying to imagine how we’d react if put in the same place. We don’t credit other groups with the intelligence to identify and act in their own self interest. If nothing else it speaks to the deteriorating effects being in the dominant sociological position has on perception.

I was very fortunate to have grown up in a mixed neighborhood back in the late 50s through the turbulent 60s. Many of my friends were African Americans and I got to spend a lot of time in all their homes having snacks or dinner or just hanging out.

You know what I learned?

They are people just like other people. In some ways nicer and more wise because of the shit they had to put up with.

It didn’t matter how much money or stuff they had (it wasn’t a rich neighborhood, lower middle class on the average)…they were people, they were proud and they were warm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:20:56pm

re: #125 lawhawk

As a palate cleanser to all the latest Trump madness, here’s some bears at Katmai NP.

explore.org

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:23:19pm

Dropped this on the dead thread. Here it is again because it’s cool:

The teenage eagle huntress, once pictured here, is the subject of a new documentary film.

news.nationalgeographic.com

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zephirus  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:34:56pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

re: #10 Charles Johnson

So Trump’s comments are “reckless, dangerous, and extremely unwise.”
EXTREMELY UNWISE?? Is that the same as extremely ill-advised, or worse?

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Jay C  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:35:01pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Hell yeah I Want his hateful movemtn destroyed. I have no problem admitting that. HE’s created the largest fascist movement ever in our coutnry.

True enough: but unfortunately, even if Trumpofascism is “destroyed” there are still going to be a lot of disgruntled would-be fascists out there after the election.

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gwangung  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:44:42pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I agree. There’s a lot of assuming among mostly white pollsters that minority voters especially African-Americans aren’t as motivated to vote without Obama at the top of the ticket.

Demonstrably wrong for Hispanic voters. Irrelevant, I think, for Asian American voters. And African American women are THE most reliable voter bloc out there. And Trump insults all of the voters, to the point of existential concern.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 4, 2016 • 4:58:08pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Jesus.

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Saw that one yesterday and was so appalled.

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TedStriker  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:05:01pm

re: #157 TedStriker

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re: #171 Skip Intro

Stockton mayor arrested; charges include crimes against children

This is guy who had his gun stolen, didn’t report it, and the gun was later used in a killing. That isn’t what he was arrested for.

recordnet.com

From what I’ve heard lately, he sounds like a real winner.

Perp walk him and put him under the jail.

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:25:26pm

re: #118 KGxvi

In the days of DVRs, Netflix, and Hulu, is there any solid return on investment for political TV ads? I mean, just about the only thing that anyone watches live now is sports, right? Isn’t money better spent on GOTV efforts?

Most people still watch the tv as it happens. And even if they record, they don’t always forward through commercials.

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Teukka  Aug 4, 2016 • 5:34:25pm

re: #132 freetoken

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Bubblehead II  Aug 4, 2016 • 6:28:49pm

Night Lizards.

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fern01  Aug 4, 2016 • 7:09:02pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

Even the Bloomberg twins are saying with a 15 point lead Trump may not be able to close that large a gap. His only hope is to pull a rabbit out of his hat during the debates.

I am not going to believe anything until about 11:00 pm on November 8, 2016.

But I am going to watch all the Republicans running around with their hair on fire.

Oh Yeah! Going to watch that big league.

Last I heard Trump is going to bypass the debates - so the rabbit isn’t coming out of that hat


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