Donald Trump Says He’ll Walk Away From the US Treaty With Japan Unless They Pay Up

“They have to pay”
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With all the insane stuff Donald Trump has been saying, this horrible statement fell through the cracks. But amidst all the other craziness from Trump today, he broadly hinted that if important US ally Japan were attacked, he’d walk away from the NATO treaty unless Japan coughed up enough money.

Donald Trump has attacked Japan, one of America’s closest allies, stating that if the US is attacked, all Japan would do is “sit home and watch Sony television”.

He expressed his frustration that the US is bound by treaty to defend the Asian nation but that if the United States is attacked, the Japanese cannot help because of Article 9, which constitutionally forbids it to send armed forces overseas.

He said that it “could be necessary” for the US to walk away from the treaty - or at least threaten to do so.

At a campaign event in Iowa, Mr Trump also repeated his criticism of countries that do not pull their weight in terms of financial contributions to Nato.

“You know we have a treaty with Japan, where if Japan is attacked, we have to use the full force and might of the United States,” he said.

“If we’re attacked, Japan doesn’t have to do anything. They can sit home and watch Sony television, OK?

Mr Trump added that the United States protects Japan, South Korea, Germany, Saudi Arabia and other nations, and “they don’t pay anything near what it costs”.

“They have to pay. Because this isn’t 40 years ago,” he added.

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292 comments

1
FormerDirtDart  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:31:52pm

form downstairs, but it definitely needs to be here, so no one misses it…

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Jenner7  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:32:47pm
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JasonA  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:33:36pm

I want to say something about stability in the world contributing to our financial success, but fuck it.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:34:38pm

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EPR-radar  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:34:40pm

So the witless fucking cocksplat wants to start World War III in Asia by having the US abandon the defense of Japan.

It’s as stupid as all his other ideas.

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JasonA  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:36:35pm

If we elect a leader who has shit on every ally we have as much as Trump than we deserve what we get.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:36:36pm

re: #2 Jenner7

I srsly think Trump caught whatever it is that Ben Carson suffers from.

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majii  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:37:54pm

Donald Trump, America’s first capo di tutti capo president. Is this guy running for POTUS or does he plan to use the office to run an extortion racket?

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teleskiguy  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:38:44pm

NICE COUNTRY YOU HAVE THERE, JAPAN. BE A SHAME IF ANYTHING HAPPENED TO IT. PAY UP AND WE’LL PROTECT YOU.

Where’s the huge NYT/WaPo exposé on The Donald’s™ extensive mob ties?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:38:50pm

Does this stupid, stupid, stupid motherfucker not know why Japan has a self-defense force?

DOES HE NOT KNOW WHAT WORLD WAR TWO IS?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:40:13pm

re: #10 Pawn of the Oppressor

Does this stupid, stupid, stupid motherfucker not know why Japan has a self-defense force?

DOES HE NOT KNOW WHAT WORLD WAR TWO IS?

Trumps don’t do “war”.

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Scout  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:40:17pm

Thank you, Mr. Johnson, for highlighting this story.

Trump has managed to hit me where I live — literally.

I am so angry right now that I have to turn off my computer and go outside.

Please, everyone in America and all around the world, do everything you can to make this creature lose the election.

When I get home later, I will contribute as much as I legally can to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, and to all down-ticket candidates as well.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:40:59pm
Mr Trump threatened Japan that, under his presidency, it could be necessary to “walk” away from the treaty.

“It could be that Japan will have to defend itself against North Korea,” he said.

“You always have to be prepared to walk,” Mr Trump said about getting allies to carry their financial weight.

“I don’t think we’ll walk, I don’t think it’s going to be necessary. It could be, though.”

Republicans always told me uncertainty was bad for the economy.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:41:15pm

re: #12 Scout

Thank you, Mr. Johnson, for highlighting this story.

Trump has managed to hit me where I live — literally.

I am so angry right now that I have to turn off my computer and go outside.

Please, everyone in America and all around the world, do everything you can to make this creature lose the election.

When I get home later, I will contribute as much as I legally can to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, and to all down-ticket candidates as well.

I’ll dedicate tomorrow’s first voter registration to you.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:41:48pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:45:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:46:35pm

We need to defeat this guy.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:47:06pm

Im 1951, there were riots in the Phillipines when US authorities announced that Japan would be allowed to set up the “self defense” forces. The Chinese also have some strong feelings on the subject.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:47:09pm

I’m shaking my head. I thought the next dumb thing was for him to be recorded saying the n-word, maybe, or decorating his rally with nooses for Hillary, or some stupid bit of ugly theater that tosses red meat to his fuckstick loser racist fan club. I guess not!

These comments alone are enough to insult an ally and degrade our relationship with the Japanese. This is going to make the news tomorrow, maybe not here, but overseas for sure. Some calls will need to be made.

Ironically, Obama’s first ever true apology to a foreign country might be to… Japan. On behalf of Donald Trump.

Barry’s gotta be checking his e-mail, thinking “What the fuck did he say now?” :P

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:49:29pm

I guess he wanted Asian-Americans 5”to go on the list of people hell shit on.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:49:31pm

Todd “Legitimate Rape” Akin

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Kragar  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:49:45pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

Russia has no love for the Japanese either

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:50:17pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart

Anyone honestly shocked?

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Kragar  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:50:27pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:50:33pm

re: #2 Jenner7

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Good question from Donald; how could anybody think that way?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:51:15pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

Im 1951, there were riots in the Phillipines when US authorities announced that Japan would be allowed to set up the “self defense” forces. The Chinese also have some strong feelings on the subject.

As would a lot of our veterans who lost their youth to places like Peleliu, Okinawa, Iwo Jima, Tarawa, Guadalcanal… Or who “remember Pearl Harbor”…

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:51:22pm

re: #8 majii

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:52:11pm

re: #8 majii

Donald Trump, America’s first capo di tutti capo president. Is this guy running for POTUS or does he plan to use the office to run an extortion racket?

Is he getting foreign policy advice from the Mafiosi he has had business connections with?

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teleskiguy  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:52:54pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:53:01pm

Japanese militarists have a long history of agitating for full re-armament including nuclear weapons. They have usually been shouted down, though less so as Hiroshima and Nagasaki slip from living memory. Trump’s position will be music to their ears.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:55:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:55:27pm

re: #28 Big Beautiful Door

Is he getting foreign policy advice from the Mafiosi he has had business connections with?

Really feels that way.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:56:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:56:11pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Hannity is worse than an arrogant elitist, he’s a stupid one.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:56:44pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:57:33pm

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel

Japanese militarists have a long history of agitating for full re-armament including nuclear weapons. They have usually been shouted down, though less so as Hiroshima and Nagasaki slip from living memory. Trump’s position will be music to their ears.

If Trump becomes President, I expect a lot of nations who have been relying on the US will seriously think about developing their own nuclear weapons. A major reason we do enter into alliances with so many nations is to prevent nuclear weapons proliferation; Trump thinks nothing of it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:57:34pm

re: #35 jaunte

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When do his crowds turn on him?

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:58:11pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

“He was just kidding when he accused me of knowing more than he did.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 7:59:27pm

re: #38 jaunte

“He was just kidding when he accused me of knowing more than he did.”

True.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:00:04pm

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel

Japanese militarists have a long history of agitating for full re-armament including nuclear weapons. They have usually been shouted down, though less so as Hiroshima and Nagasaki slip from living memory. Trump’s position will be music to their ears.

If he hadn’t committed seppuku during arguably the least effective coup d’état in history, Yukio Mishima might’ve been a fan.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:01:53pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

form downstairs, but it definitely needs to be here, so no one misses it…

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WOW! That’s right up there with LBJ’s Daisy ad!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:01:58pm

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Kragar  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:02:22pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:03:37pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Anyone honestly shocked?

Only with the fact he seems to want to completely eliminate blocks of voting groups.

He’s getting hammered by: Blacks, Latinos, Women, College Educated, Muslims.

It’s a hell of a way to run a campaign.

I can’t remember who said it, but about a month ago I heard a wonk say he could win totally with the white vote.

Today he is losing that by a point or two and it is only the working, no college group he is strong with.

But hey, the candidate is running his campaign and check cashers like Manafort are running what he asks them to run.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:06:46pm

Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump proposes that we SELL some of our nukes to nervous allies. Making a few bucks on the deal will be irresistible to him.

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ObserverArt  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:06:49pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Sean Hannity ✔ @seanhannity
Exclusive — Sean Hannity Bludgeons Wall Street Journal Editor Bret Stephens As ‘Arrogant Elitist’

But it sure isn’t arrogant to tweet out a third person endorsement of your own story.

Yeah…I can see why Sean suckles him some Trump.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:07:18pm

re: #43 Kragar

I’m not blocked by Hannity anymore. Does Twitter have a block limit?

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Jenner7  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:07:27pm

And the circle of derp is complete…

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:08:13pm

This is where education counts and the Dumb Angry Cape Buffalo model of Republican strateegery fails. “Telling it like it is” is a pile of shit when the rubber meets the road.

An educated man would know that the Japanese are not toothless, but they can’t be too open about military capability for face-saving reasons, and oh by the way, we have used their facilities for wars both cold and hot since that little dust-up in the 40’s. You know, that thing that left a 10,000 mile trail of blood, bodies, ordnance, ash, and fallout across entire continents.

He would have some understanding of the complexities involved in turning an enemy country from a suicidal, fanatical horror show into an ally. Complexities that don’t boil down to 140 characters and a one-liner at a rally.

He would also understand that implying Japan is a dead weight and needs to pay up, like some kind of weak-kneed extortion victim, is really fucking vulgar in general, and will be taken as a direct insult, which is a big, big no-no in that part of the world.

But, Trump doesn’t do complexity. He just says THE BEST WORDS. And his tiny hands have two positions, “Gimme” and “Slap”.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:08:16pm

re: #44 ObserverArt

Only with the fact he seems to want to completely eliminate blocks of voting groups.

He’s getting hammered by: Blacks, Latinos, Women, College Educated, Muslims.

It’s a hell of a way to run a campaign.

I can’t remember who said it, but about a month ago I heard a wonk say he could win totally with the white vote.

Today he is losing that by a point or two and it is only the working, no college group he is strong with.

But hey, the candidate is running his campaign and check cashers like Manafort are running what he asks them to run.

I meant that a guy like Legit Rape Akin likes him.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:09:10pm

re: #47 No Country For Old Haters

Sean Hannity Bludgeons Wall Street Journal Editor Bret Stephens As ‘Arrogant Elitist’

Can a guy who goes to WaWa to buy a sandwich flanked by two bodyguards really call anyone else “elitist?”

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ObserverArt  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:09:17pm

re: #35 jaunte

Angus Johnston @studentactivism
Trump asks the crowd how many of them knew the US pays for Japan’s defense. A bunch of hands go up. He accuses them of lying.

Really.
9:10 PM - 5 Aug 2016

Stunning political brilliance! /

Let’s go and piss off even my supporters that have more than 5 brain cells.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:09:33pm

re: #42 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:10:57pm

re: #49 Pawn of the Oppressor

Yeah, and Japan isn’t far from their own nukes, if they absolutely wanted them.

While there are currently no known plans in Japan to produce nuclear weapons, it has been argued that Japan has the technology, raw materials, and the capital to produce nuclear weapons within one year if necessary, and some analysts consider it a de facto nuclear state for this reason.[3] For this reason Japan is often said to be a “screwdriver’s turn”[4][5] away from possessing nuclear weapons.

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freetoken  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:11:26pm

As I noted the other night, with the selection of the new Japanese defense minister, Nippon Kaigi is on the rise.

This unsettles many people, not just outside Japan but inside too.

And here is Drumpfskind, playing right into the hands of Japanese far-right.

I don’t expect the likes of Chuck Todd to delve into this, though. It’s all too big-picture and policy-centric for American pop media.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:12:58pm

Goodnight all

Muhammad Ali visiting the Robert Burns Birthplace Museum in Alloway, South Ayrshire, Scotland, in 1965

A short piece about the boy who was looking into the camera can be found at the Museum’s website here.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:13:58pm

Trump could have his marketing people work up a series of standardized package deals for aspiring nuclear powers, from the “basic” with some freefall bombs and appropriate c4i gear to “super-deluxe” with subs, slbms, mirvs etc. Considering how desperate the buyers might be, the profits could be yuuuge.

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b.d.  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:15:04pm

re: #48 Jenner7

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And the circle of derp is complete…

The Balloon Boy family moved to Florida?

How fitting.

That video:

The video opens with Trump taking the stage before a cheering multitude. Images skip from graphics about nuclear bombs; a shot of Hillary Clinton at the “Demonic National Convention;” a “sold out” stamp on Bill Clinton’s face; Hillary boxing with Trump in a ring, burning an American flag or rubbing elbows with a Saudi bigwig.

It then cuts to Trump at a rally, Trump holding an eagle; right-wing radio host Alex Jones dancing, blogger Matt Drudge’s mouth moving in time to the song; Trump with the eagle again, Trump giving a speech; a cherub urinating; a semitrailer crashing; something about a wall; American flags; Revolutionary war soldiers; planting the flag at Iwo Jima; Trump in a Superman costume; the word “FREEDOM,” wrapping up with making America great again as a crowd chants Trump’s name.

Sounds nice.

//

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ObserverArt  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:15:48pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Sean Hannity ✔ @seanhannity
Exclusive — Sean Hannity Bludgeons Wall Street Journal Editor Bret Stephens As ‘Arrogant Elitist’

But it sure isn’t arrogant to tweet out a third person endorsement of your own story.

Yeah…I can see why Sean suckles him some Trump.

I just remembered…isn’t the Wall Street Journal one of Rupert Murdoch’s properties???

So, he is going after his own boss???

WTF???

Okay, I am out…too much insanity again. I need to crash and reset the ol’ thinker and dump the nonsense.

Later Lizards.

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freetoken  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:16:02pm

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel

The emergence of a new brand on the international arms market: TrumPower - When You Need Your Bombs Opulent.

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Jenner7  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:17:02pm

What in the fuck is this?!?!?

Notice this part:

(The Clinton campaign did not return calls asking for comment.)

Gee, I can’t imagine why..oh yeah I can, your article is utter garbage!

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teleskiguy  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:17:21pm

I cross-posted this tweet to my Facebook.

Five motherfuckers have been deleted. All white males.

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BlueGrl21  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:19:38pm

re: #41 Joe Bacon

WOW! That’s right up there with LBJ’s Daisy ad!

It’s one hell of an ad….there’s nothing in it but actual quotes and data. That’s all it needed.

The connections and love for Putin is what pushed some of the old school GOP crowd around me to abandon him. They could go into denial about his “character flaws” and think it was controllable. But throw in ties to Russia and Putin and they are done. The Cold War fears never died.

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sagehen  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:20:40pm

re: #36 Big Beautiful Door

If Trump becomes President, I expect a lot of nations who have been relying on the US will seriously think about developing their own nuclear weapons. A major reason we do enter into alliances with so many nations is to prevent nuclear weapons proliferation; Trump thinks nothing of it.

And just think how excited China would be at the idea of the US no longer protecting Japan…

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No Depression  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:20:50pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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freetoken  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:21:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:21:08pm

re: #61 Jenner7

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What in the fuck is this?!?!?

Notice this part:

Gee, I can’t imagine why..oh yeah I can, your article is utter garbage!

We have a GOP candidate pledging to fuck over allies but they’re focused on gestures. What fucking liberal media.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:22:19pm
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Jenner7  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:23:48pm
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b.d.  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:24:23pm

Hannity vs.The Wall Street Journal?

Rupert on Rupert action?

Not sure Roger would have allowed that….

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Stanley Sea  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:24:50pm

Read this one

nytimes.com

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:25:05pm

Japan does pay for the United States military presence in their country. In fact, they pay quite a lot.

wsj.com

Q: How much does the U.S. presence in Japan cost the U.S. each year?

A: Including personnel costs, the U.S. is set to spend roughly $5.5 billion on its Japan presence in the year beginning Oct. 1, 2016, according to President Barack Obama’s budget proposal released in February.

Q: Does Japan pay anything for the bases?

A: Yes. Japan’s budget for the year that began April 1 includes ¥192 billion ($1.7 billion) in direct support for the bases. Tokyo covers more than 90% of the cost of the 25,500 Japanese nationals working at the bases and most of the utility costs. In addition, it pays for other costs arising from the U.S. presence such as rent for private and public land used by the bases as well as noise abatement and other measures to help people living nearby. Altogether, the Japanese budget includes ¥450 billion ($4 billion) of base-related expenses.

Additionally, it should be mentioned that the United States is occupying a significant portion of Japanese real estate in this deal, and are doing so essentially rent-free.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:29:02pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:29:13pm

The US can and probably should lose every international alliance it has unless Trump is decisively defeated in November.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:29:20pm
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BlueGrl21  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:31:10pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

I cross-posted this tweet to my Facebook.

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Five motherfuckers have been deleted. All white males.

I had to do this purge when he first started his campaign and started the racist crap. I gave one warning shot…that I would not have him clogging up my Facebook feed or my comments. Anyone that ignored that clear boundary will no longer be a part of my online world.

Then I started cutting people off.

That meant my aunt and three of my 5 cousins, many friends of many years, coworkers, and my brother. My best friend of 30 years. I still talk to them offline but politics are never to be discussed.

Harsh? Yes, but i own my social media and what I do with it. And I will not have my online personal space turn into a Trump cesspool. I do not want my personal relationships completely torched. I’m not going to let them turn ME into someone with the kind of hate they are currently wallowing in.

I’m sorry you are having to do this. Trump is doing something disgusting to our political discourse and divisions are growing very deep, even in families. I will be so glad when this election is over.

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Kragar  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:33:58pm

re: #72 Bill and Opus for 2016!

A sense of caution has begun to pervade the Japanese government over Donald Trump’s insistence that Japan and other U.S. allies cover all costs of stationing U.S. troops in their countries. One senior Foreign Ministry official called the demand by the presumptive Republican nominee for the U.S. presidency “unrealistic.”

A senior Japanese government official said Friday that Tokyo intends to work harder to convince Trump and his policy advisers to change their stance. “He doesn’t understand that the stationing of troops here is in the interest of the United States,” the official said.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:34:14pm
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Joe Bacon  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:35:30pm

Hmmmmm, somebody has been trying to reset my Facebook password multiple times in the past 10 minutes. So glad I change the random generated password every week!

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Kragar  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:37:18pm

Trump’s military plan would relocate an entire Marine Division, including an Air Wing and support elements back to the US, as well as shutting down the HQ for 7th Fleet, which also means we would lose the only drydock capable of holding our carriers in that part of the world.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:37:20pm
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jaunte  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:37:39pm
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Joe Bacon  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:40:07pm

re: #82 jaunte

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Looks more like Ginger Snapped to me!

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Dave In Austin  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:40:34pm

re: #79 Joe Bacon

There’s been a lot of that going on lately. I got an IM from an old HS friend the other day that seemed real strange. I called him on it and he disappeared. But not before trying to dump some malicious content in the tread that FB caught.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:41:37pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart

Eggs and water balloons…. (Inner 14yr old speaks)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:44:37pm

re: #85 Dave In Austin

Eggs and water balloons…. (Inner 14yr old speaks)

How juvenile. I’d rather use this….

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:47:03pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

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I’m really surprised that David Brock hasn’t been more at the forefront on dispelling most of these Hillary Clinton-centered conspiracies. After all, during the 1990s he was front and center of the “Arkansas Project” smear campaign against the Clintons, spending the better part of a decade on digging up dirt on them, and lost favor with the righwing “press” after discovering that the accusations were completely baseless. During the last decade he’s been dedicating most of his time to running Media Matters for America (which he founded).

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:49:35pm

re: #80 Kragar

Jesse Ventura would approve!

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Kragar  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:51:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:52:31pm

re: #89 Kragar

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Uh yes Donald because I’ve heard of Okinawa.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:54:42pm

Woohoo. A cousin sent me a photo of one of my great great grands. That’s 4/16 GGs that I have seen photos of and maybe 5 since we have a group photo of one of my GG Grandfather’s blacksmith shop but we don’t know where he is in the photo.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 5, 2016 • 8:56:13pm

re: #89 Kragar

Yes.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:00:17pm

re: #89 Kragar

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William Lewis  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:00:47pm

re: #89 Kragar

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I remember visiting Tokyo in January 1986 and listening to the last launch of the shuttle Challenger on AFN radio. So, yeah, Donald, just a wee bit.

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freetoken  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:01:19pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

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Kragar  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:05:53pm
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Kragar  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:09:51pm

I thought they were just watching Sony?

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:11:34pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Anyone honestly shocked?

No.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:18:11pm

re: #96 Kragar

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Okay, I want to be Bob Costas when I grow up now.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:24:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:27:59pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart

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My head hurts from reading that.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:30:14pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart

Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged

Holy fuck-he’s channeling the Rage Furby.

The Sweet Meteor O’Death can’t come soon enough if Hair Furor gets elected.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:32:52pm

re: #80 Kragar

Trump’s military plan would relocate an entire Marine Division, including an Air Wing and support elements back to the US, as well as shutting down the HQ for 7th Fleet, which also means we would lose the only drydock capable of holding our carriers in that part of the world.

Can you imagine the freakout if a certain President Of Color had proposed this?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:35:03pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:36:40pm

That’s the speech of a man who doesn’t actually converse with people very often.

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majii  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:46:24pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart

There’s nothing I detest more than having someone who has questioned a sitting president’s every move constantly talk about how a conservative republican has to “give his credentials all of the time.” Birtherism didn’t stop after this president held a presser and showed his real birth certificate. Orly Taitz made a whole lot of money on her blog pushing her birther claims and calling this president unfit to serve because of the amount of melanin he has in his skin. These tools have dressed racism in many guises since he entered office and used it against him, but they haven’t fooled me. I received their message when they started the sh*t, and their message is that they don’t think a POC, a gay person, an atheist, or anyone who is not a white, Christian male belongs in the WH. They have never trusted him, and it’s all because he’s a POC. They shouldn’t be surprised at this point what their sh*t has wrought. They tilled the ground, planted the seeds, and harvested the crop, and the crop is Donald Trump and his gang of vile know-nothings who view politics as reality TV. GOPers have questioned everything about President Obama from his place of birth, to his religion, to his loyalty to the nation. Whenever someone questions one of their politicians about anything, their flying bats come out on social media to provide a defense for him/her. Look at Sean Hannity’s latest rant. He’s mad as hell that some republicans are turning against Trump, but he never stops to think about the role he played in riling these tools up and turning them into angry mobs that display the most despicable behavior ever seen in modern presidential elections. Hell, Hannity and GOPers spent more than five years defending Palin’s nonsense because they refused to admit the truth about her——-that she is an empty-headed person who thought Africa, the continent, was one nation and couldn’t name one publication she reads.

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:46:30pm

re: #76 BlueGrl21

I went further than that and already made plans to get out of town for Thanksgiving to avoid my mother’s side of the family if Hillary wins. This is the side of the family where my crazy uncle ruined my Christmas last year by telling me that Sandy Hook was a hoax. After that I just tuned them all out, I mean what can you do after that?

Like you, I can’t wait for Nov 8 to get here and then get out.

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allegro  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:50:58pm

To those who recommended Stranger Things: thank you! That was so fun. Just finished watching the last episode during which I had to repeatedly remind myself to breathe.

On a political note… during Friday-out-to-dinner my friend and I talked about what a numbnuts Trump is and I kinda noted that the couple sitting at the table next to us was real quiet. The wife caught my eye with a kinda little smile and twinkling eye; her hubby was squirmy. I started talking about the Russia ties when the guy said “excuse me, what?!” I got into the GOP platform stuff, Manafort, Flynn, etc. and the guy just went nuts - not at me, at Trump and the GOP. Seems this was the bridge too far for the guy. His wife, when he wasn’t looking, mouthed “thank you”. Heh, another Republican vote lost.

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dell*nix  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:52:34pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

If all of that were true then it would be a recamendation for her to be the one to face Putin from the White House. I say this as someone who grew up during the Cold War as a military dependant and 20 years active USAF. I heard a bit about the NKVD and the KGB. None of it good.

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majii  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:55:36pm

re: #108 allegro

“His wife, when he wasn’t looking, mouthed “thank you”. Heh, another Republican vote lost.”

When one’s main source of information about politics is Fox News, it’s natural that the person doesn’t know a lot of things about our politicians that they should know. Fox is on every TV in almost every public place here in GA, which is why I take a novel when I go to my doctors’ offices or to have work done on my car. I go outside and read until it’s my turn for service.

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Kragar  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:56:15pm
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dell*nix  Aug 5, 2016 • 9:58:45pm

re: #89 Kragar

I did my Viet Nam R & R in Tokyo in 1969. Passed thru Japan several times going to and from SEA.

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allegro  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:00:28pm

re: #110 majii

“His wife, when he wasn’t looking, mouthed “thank you”. Heh, another Republican vote lost.”

When one’s main source of information about politics is Fox News, it’s natural that the person doesn’t know a lot of things about our politicians that they should know. Fox is on every TV in almost every public place here in GA, which is why I take a novel when I go to my doctors’ offices or to have work done on my car. I go outside and read until it’s my turn for service.

I’m in Texas. I can identify.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:04:54pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

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EPR-radar  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:05:06pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

There’s just no way to keep up with the bilge coming from Asstrumpet McThunderfart.

It’s endless.

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Anymouse  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:05:47pm

re: #76 BlueGrl21

I had to do this purge when he first started his campaign and started the racist crap. I gave one warning shot…that I would not have him clogging up my Facebook feed or my comments. Anyone that ignored that clear boundary will no longer be a part of my online world.

Then I started cutting people off.

That meant my aunt and three of my 5 cousins, many friends of many years, coworkers, and my brother. My best friend of 30 years. I still talk to them offline but politics are never to be discussed.

Harsh? Yes, but i own my social media and what I do with it. And I will not have my online personal space turn into a Trump cesspool. I do not want my personal relationships completely torched. I’m not going to let them turn ME into someone with the kind of hate they are currently wallowing in.

I’m sorry you are having to do this. Trump is doing something disgusting to our political discourse and divisions are growing very deep, even in families. I will be so glad when this election is over.

My family does not occupy on-line social networks. Nevertheless, prior to starting my trip to Canada, my favourite cousin in Michigan went all-in on Mr. Trump, trying to convince me to give up my support for Senator Sanders. (When we left on our trip, the Democratic primaries were still ongoing.)

A few days ago my wife and I returned to the United States, entering Michigan from Sarnia, Ontario. We stopped to visit my cousin; it turns out she has dumped Mr. Trump and is now all in behind Hillary Clinton. She is passionate about that decision.

I don’t know what it was that convinced her out of the massive pile of derp Mr. Trump has been spewing over the last month, but that is one voter he’s lost.

In the meantime, my mother in Chicago has resurrected her Gold Star Mothers and Families Pin. (She normally will not wear it, not seeking sympathetic statements from others, but Mr. Trump’s attacks on Mrs. Khan after the Democratic Convention convinced my mother she needs to wear that pin everywhere she goes.)

My pin is at home (I normally only wear it for special occasions), and like my mother I will be wearing it constantly now, but for now as we are still on the road our car is a repudiation to Mr. Trump with its Gold Star Family plates.

Today we went to the President Herbert Hoover Museum; turned out we were right near it after an overnight stop (I did not know it existed). It gave a side of President Hoover I was unaware of (he started the organisation that became CARE).

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Lidane  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:17:52pm

WTFITS?

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Anymouse  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:18:06pm

Herbert Hoover Presidential Museum in Iowa

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Lidane  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:20:05pm

Constitutional scholar:

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LastYearsMan  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:38:17pm

Regarding Japan’s defense … there are good arguments for letting them take care of their own defense again, from the left and right. Ian Buruma (who is one of my favorite Western commentators on Japan) has long argued that the US presence in Japan and Korea is a major reason Japan, South Korea and China are all so cantankerous. Without the US taking responsibility for the regions security, everyone would have to grow up, stop re-arguing the past, and be more responsible for their words and actions.

…But somehow I’m guessing Trump hasn’t read any Buruma. Or thought his arguments through at any level.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:51:30pm

re: #120 LastYearsMan

Regarding Japan’s defense … there are good arguments for letting them take care of their own defense again, from the left and right. Ian Buruma (who is one of my favorite Western commentators on Japan) has long argued that the US presence in Japan and Korea is a major reason Japan, South Korea and China are all so cantankerous. Without the US taking responsibility for the regions security, everyone would have to grow up, stop re-arguing the past, and be more responsible for their words and actions.

…But somehow I’m guessing Trump hasn’t read any Buruma. Or thought his arguments through at any level.

That’s one way it could go, but I’m not exactly sanguine. Asia isn’t exactly like Western Europe and the three countries you name aren’t likely to form a mutual economic union like the EU. There’s also the destabilizing factors of North Korea, Chinese territorial waters claims and the presence of other longstanding allies like Australia and the Philippines.

It’s probably wise to slowly encourage Japan to slowly redevelop some kind of domestic armed forces capability just as an insurance policy against us drawn thin by a widespread conflict, but the idea that they’ve thus far gotten off scot-free is ridiculous. For instance, they picked up almost a sixth of the total cost of the First Gulf War.

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Anymouse  Aug 5, 2016 • 10:52:49pm

Trump Website will not let people cancel recurring donations to campaign via credit card.

Mic tested this complaint by setting up a $1 recurring donation, and found out just how hard it is to cancel (about as hard as getting a refund from Trump University, with screenshots from the campaign Website):

mic.com

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teleskiguy  Aug 5, 2016 • 11:06:26pm

re: #119 Lidane

His cockswaddled snakes-for-brains supporters *eat this shit up* like kids and ice cream.

Bob & Chez are right. Don’t Get Happy! There are millions of people in the United States that will happily vote for Cheeto Jesus, and they’re telling all their friends and family.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 5, 2016 • 11:08:22pm

Trump needs to read the news occasionally. Legislation that now allows Japan to engage in “collective self-defense”, defending an ally under attack even when the nation itself is not under attack, went into effect this past March.
For a number of years The Japanese government had stated that they believed international law already allowed them to act in “collective self-defense” . In Sep. 2015 the Diet made this reinterpretation official, coming into effect this past Marc.

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retired cynic  Aug 5, 2016 • 11:14:26pm

re: #96 Kragar

I have followed Bob Costas since he was in his early 20s, on the Jack Carney radio show in St. Louis. Good times.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 5, 2016 • 11:30:46pm

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

That’s one way it could go, but I’m not exactly sanguine. Asia isn’t exactly like Western Europe and the three countries you name aren’t likely to form a mutual economic union like the EU. There’s also the destabilizing factors of North Korea, Chinese territorial waters claims and the presence of other longstanding allies like Australia and the Philippines.

Yeah, I think Buruma’s argument was a lot better before China started getting so aggressive around the southern waters. I’m just pointing out that the US presence in northeast Asia is more ambiguous than the US role in NATO.

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MadMs  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:03:51am

re: #49 Pawn of the Oppressor

Thank you. I am new here, but this is a great comment, so again, thank you.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:06:14am

re: #127 MadMs

Thank you. I am new here, but this is a great comment, so again, thank you.

Welcome Hatchling…..

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teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:33:34am

re: #127 MadMs

Thank you. I am new here, but this is a great comment, so again, thank you.

Speak your mind. This is a hive mind of absolute good. Welcome!

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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:28:03am

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

Good ad except for “he killed journalists that disagreed with him” bit. I know it’s a part of the stereotype, but nobody seems to be able to name a single journalist Putin killed and actually prove that he did. (Litvinenko hardly fits the profile and it was a “killing a turncoat” affair in any case.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:34:32am
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freetoken  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:39:10am

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:44:02am

re: #130 Nyet

Good ad except for “he killed journalists that disagreed with him” bit. I know it’s a part of the stereotype, but nobody seems to be able to name a single journalist Putin killed and actually prove that he did. (Litvinenko hardly fits the profile and it was a “killing a turncoat” affair in any case.)

Okay, but the real point of that I think was Trump’s “at least he’s a leader” response to the assertion, not the provability of the assertion itself. The full transcript is even worse.

Well, I mean, it’s also a person who kills journalists, political opponents, and invades countries. Obviously that would be a concern, would it not?” Scarborough asked.

“He’s running his country, and at least he’s a leader,” Trump replied. “Unlike what we have in this country.”

His response to Mika about being praised by Putin was also quite telling.

“Sure, when people call you ‘brilliant’ it’s always good. Especially when the person heads up Russia,” Trump told cohost Mika Brzezinski when asked about Putin praising him as “very talented” the day before.

The problem isn’t that he’s trying to save face or spin away an awkward endorsement, he isn’t. The problem is that he truly believes what he’s saying. He’s so narcissistic, so used to surrounding himself with obsequious toadies, nepotistic thralls and abject sycophants that it doesn’t even occur to him that Putin might have an alternate agenda. He incapable of even conceiving a situation where someone’s praise of him might actually be disingenuous.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:03:30am
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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:10:14am

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

Well, I didn’t get that it was a part of a single interview, in which case the juxtaposition makes sense (even if my criticism remains), but that means that the ad wasn’t making it clear enough that it was a Q and an A.

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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:19:00am

Ok this is just brutal.

m.dailykos.com

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Jayleia  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:35:16am

re: #136 Nyet

I don’t smoke, and I don’t drink very often. But I feel like buying a cigar and some very nice alcohol after reading that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:59:25am

re: #116 Anymouse

My family does not occupy on-line social networks. Nevertheless, prior to starting my trip to Canada, my favourite cousin in Michigan went all-in on Mr. Trump, trying to convince me to give up my support for Senator Sanders. (When we left on our trip, the Democratic primaries were still ongoing.)

A few days ago my wife and I returned to the United States, entering Michigan from Sarnia, Ontario. We stopped to visit my cousin; it turns out she has dumped Mr. Trump and is now all in behind Hillary Clinton. She is passionate about that decision.

I don’t know what it was that convinced her out of the massive pile of derp Mr. Trump has been spewing over the last month, but that is one voter he’s lost.

In the meantime, my mother in Chicago has resurrected her Gold Star Mothers and Families Pin. (She normally will not wear it, not seeking sympathetic statements from others, but Mr. Trump’s attacks on Mrs. Khan after the Democratic Convention convinced my mother she needs to wear that pin everywhere she goes.)

My pin is at home (I normally only wear it for special occasions), and like my mother I will be wearing it constantly now, but for now as we are still on the road our car is a repudiation to Mr. Trump with its Gold Star Family plates.

Today we went to the President Herbert Hoover Museum; turned out we were right near it after an overnight stop (I did not know it existed). It gave a side of President Hoover I was unaware of (he started the organisation that became CARE).

Hoover was a great human being; he was just a terrible President.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:05:38am

It’s hard not to get nervous in these early stages, but really, it’s the same way every time—essentially 45/45 until after the conventions. People are just not paying attention. Up until then, the poll questions, however they’re phrased, amount to “Whose name did you hear last?”

This time may be unique for name recognition even before the conventions. “Trump? Yeah, I’ve heard of him. Why not?” Now the public is beginning to hear a few things the candidates are saying, and they’re not liking what they hear from Trump. Honestly, I think he’s got noplace to go but down.

His real followers are going to get more and more extreme as the campaign goes along. It’s like bringing a pimple to a head. When it bursts, it’s not going to be pretty. I expect inept outbursts of violence—lots of them. Ideally, they will discredit the right for 50 years the way the chaos of the 60s did the left.

Or more likely, they’ll be back in 2018, crazier than ever….

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:19:53am

re: #139 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s hard not to get nervous in these early stages, but really, it’s the same way every time—essentially 45/45 until after the conventions. People are just not paying attention. Up until then, the poll questions, however they’re phrased, amount to “Whose name did you hear last?”

This time may be unique for name recognition even before the conventions. “Trump? Yeah, I’ve heard of him. Why not?” Now the public is beginning to hear a few things the candidates are saying, and they’re not liking what they hear from Trump. Honestly, I think he’s got noplace to go but down.

His real followers are going to get more and more extreme as the campaign goes along. It’s like bringing a pimple to a head. When it bursts, it’s not going to be pretty. I expect inept outbursts of violence—lots of them. Ideally, they will discredit the right for 50 years the way the chaos of the 60s did the left.

Or more likely, they’ll be back in 2018, crazier than ever….

Unless the Democrats figure out some magic to get young and low income people to the polls in the midterms, the GOP will come roaring back in 2018.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:27:08am

re: #140 Big Beautiful Door

Unless the Democrats figure out some magic to get young and low income people to the polls in the midterms, the GOP will come roaring back in 2018.

The only chance for any real change appears to be an open Presidential election in a census year. 2040 is probably our next chance. :-(

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William Lewis  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:39:55am

re: #141 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

All we really need is a 60+ majority in the Senate with a D president. That gives up to 4 likely justices and the ability to sue out of existence the gerrymandered house districts for the racist garbage that they are.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:46:18am

re: #142 William Lewis

All we really need is a 60+ majority in the Senate with a D president. That gives up to 4 likely justices and the ability to sue out of existence the gerrymandered house districts for the racist garbage that they are.

We aren’t going to get that many senators unless Trump’s campaign becomes an even greater black hole than we can realistically hope for. Which means if the Democrats gain a Senate majority, they need to have the guts to eliminate or radically reform the filibuster rule. I have no confidence that McConnell will keep his word and let Clinton replace Scalia; that vacancy might stay open for years.

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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:50:02am

Journos seemingly can’t get any Nazi-related story straight without a bunch of sensationalism, confusion and stupid mistakes.

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.it

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Decatur Deb  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:19:18am

re: #144 Nyet

Journos seemingly can’t get any Nazi-related story straight without a bunch of sensationalism, confusion and stupid mistakes.

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.it

Still in Italy? You were working your way towards Venice when last heard. We leave in an hour for a kid visit that starts with a day of voter registration in deepest darkest AL.

(Thinking of you, Scout.)

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Archangelus  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:15:24am

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Donkey With No Name  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:28:08am

Trump really seems to think that we have security alliances just because the US feels charitable, not because we have strategic interests all over the world that we can further with assistance from other countries. If we didn’t have bases in Japan our ability to operate in Asia would be massively reduced; I don’t see how this squares with the idea that the US military is weak and needs to be improved. (Self-consistency isn’t Trump’s strong point of course.)

re: #120 LastYearsMan

Ian Buruma (who is one of my favorite Western commentators on Japan) has long argued that the US presence in Japan and Korea is a major reason Japan, South Korea and China are all so cantankerous. Without the US taking responsibility for the regions security, everyone would have to grow up, stop re-arguing the past, and be more responsible for their words and actions.

Not sure I buy it. The South Korea-Japan relationship maybe, but not North Korea-South Korea or China-Japan. China’s hegemonic ambitions and historic resentments of Japan aren’t going to go away if Japan takes builds up its military and changes its constitution to allow it to be used offensively (even less so if it develops nuclear weapons). In practice that relationship would probably get much, much worse.

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lawhawk  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:28:23am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Gotta love waking up to the smell of Trump derp in the morning. It smells like … insanity incarnate.

Trump continues his assault on every single one of the US allies and treaty obligations, even though these are treaties that were negotiated and signed decades ago and continue to serve the US well. Our relationship with Japan is a critical balance to both China and North Korea, and that the Japanese are constitutionally limited on their military force because of the Constitution we basically wrote for them.

That said, the Japanese SDF is capable of coming to the US defense if the need arise. They have a blue water navy and have capable equipment. What does Trump expect of our allies,which have a fraction of our military’s size or capabilities? That they all be as armed as we are?

No one questions him on where he gets his information from either. He just spews nonsense and the media shrugs while the GOP cringes. Heck, yesterday he offered up that the NSA has Clinton’s emails, which was apparently a claim someone in the audience yelled out.

That’s his source - the same uninformed ignorant folks who are his core support. They reinforce each other’s beliefs. Trump must be confronted on his sources for his statements, and by saying that he read it somewhere is no longer enough. Where’s he getting his info from. Make him answer for his pal Alex Jones and the incessant conspiracy theories they spin. Trump’s conspiracy mongering goes to show that he is simply not serious about facts, logic, or reason. These are critical skills necessary to be president. Trump lacks all of them.

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lawhawk  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:32:05am

re: #148 lawhawk

Moreover, our strategic partners in Asia helps balance and reduce the need for those countries to develop military forces and start an arms race that helps no one. With rivals such as South Korea, Philippines, and Japan all looking to gain edges over the others, they’re now mostly focused on economic prowess, not military dominance. That’s a huge advancement, and one that brings stability to the region.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:36:55am

That ad in the first comment above is freaking Brutal. Good.

Here’s the thing I don’t think the hard core Hillary haters get:

1) There have been so many investigations and hearings into the Clintons over the years and the only thing they ever found was that Bill lied about cheating on his wife. Yeah, like any guy, when asked directly, in front of cameras or even under oath, is going to just say “sure! Why yes, yes I did!”. Millions of taxpayer dollars spent and yet no criminal charges were ever filed and there have been no trials. Now, one would think if they’re a crime family on par with the Gambinos or whatever, that someone would have been in a courtroom in handcuffs and spent some time in jail. Hasn’t happened. Why is that? One could argue a “vast left wing conspiracy” (heh), but the people doing the investigating have been right wingers. So, um, yeah.

2) This woman has been called every name in the book. She’s been accused of everything from murder to ruining lives and careers out of jealousy (cattiness, meeeoww, etc). This isn’t her first time at the rodeo, and she has no more fucks to give about this crap. She is going to run a campaign that isn’t afraid to punch back, but not to the point of overdoing it. Like I said yesterday, every time Cheeto Prick runs his mouth he exposes another way to get to him because he’s such a fucking spineless bully. All she and the campaign have to do it keep poking the big orange hornet’s nest and he’ll be spending all his time with his own Airing of the Grievances and not doing homework for debates or telling people what he actually is going to DO to “make America great again”. Not that he has a clue, but the more time he spends rambling incoherently and making it all about him, the better off Hillary is.

Please Proceed Trump, Please.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:53:47am

re: #140 Big Beautiful Door

Unless the Democrats figure out some magic to get young and low income people to the polls in the midterms, the GOP will come roaring back in 2018.

That, unfortunately, is all but a given. People are going to quickly grow disenchanted with Hillary, she will be too moderate for either Left or Right, and will vote in “protest” again in the mid-terms.

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MsJ  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:58:21am

re: #36 Big Beautiful Door

If Trump becomes President, I expect a lot of nations who have been relying on the US will seriously think about developing their own nuclear weapons. A major reason we do enter into alliances with so many nations is to prevent nuclear weapons proliferation; Trump thinks nothing of it.

How many might anyway, having taken a “He may not have won this time but he could have! The next one might!” approach? That someone like trump can make it this bar bodes poorly for the world. Because, honestly, it’s just a matter of time.

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jeffreyw  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:00:12am

Imgur


Good morning!

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A Mom Anon  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:07:50am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think much of this is going to come down to the downticket votes and who makes up the new House and Senate. If she has people who can and will work with her, some of that disenchantment may fall flat. Remember her personal history, she has done a lot of work to make lives of poor, disabled and other marginalized people better. She does know how to get shit done and has the connections too. Not that she won’t encounter resistance, especially from the current wingnut harvest, but she can also twist arms when she has to. Especially with the House, if incumbants resist too much regarding anything she’s trying to get done to help working families, the oppo research and ads for 2018 are going to be delicious.

She’s been around long enough that she knows how the sausage gets made. I have faith she’ll be able to use her experience and allies in DC to overcome a lot of the bullshit. It’s going to be an uphill climb, but she doesn’t strike me as someone who walks away from a fight over the right things to be fighting for.

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b.d.  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:11:35am

[trump] Ryan won because of my very huge and important endorsement [/trump]

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Bass Reeves  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:12:41am

re: #140 Big Beautiful Door

Step one would probably be a national voting day holiday, where if you are low income, you can afford to take the time off work (prolly require tax incentive to employer from the govt) to go vote. Fund the tax incentive from some of those impressively high campaign war chests.

Step two would be to successfully overturn all of the Republican attempts to prevent young and low income people (and minorities) from voting. Let’s be real, a 20 year old college student in California’s vote is less likely to be significant versus one in North Carolina, and NC was exerting extreme effort to make that people who wouldn’t vote R couldn’t vote.

Step three would be for the Berniebro coalition to grow the fuck up, not just this election, but in years to come and stop being special snowflakes. That’s the group of people with sufficent time and no monetary concerns, who are just above it. I align them with the Berniebros mostly sarcastically, but also due to how many of them seem to have never been involved with the political system before January 2016.

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b.d.  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:17:08am

Newly focused Donald’s hot take of the morning.

He’ll tire of throwing boring, sad tweets by lunchtime

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:18:58am

re: #156 Bass Reeves

Step one would probably be a national voting day holiday, where if you are low income, you can afford to take the time off work (prolly require tax incentive to employer from the govt) to go vote. Fund the tax incentive from some of those impressively high campaign war chests.

Germany votes on a Sunday. And in many small towns, the local pub is the polling place, AND IT IS OPEN,

For that, they have no regulated system of bi-annual voting: state, regional and national elections are held whenever they are called, sometimes several times a year,.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:20:19am

re: #152 MsJ

How many might anyway, having taken a “He may not have won this time but he could have! The next one might!” approach? That someone like trump can make it this bar bodes poorly for the world. Because, honestly, it’s just a matter of time.

I hope you are wrong, but I can certainly see how countries could decide they must develop their own nuclear deterrence. That is what Israel did because they decided they could never again depend on others to defend Jews.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:24:31am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany votes on a Sunday. And in many small towns, the local pub is the polling place, AND IT IS OPEN,

For that, they have no regulated system of bi-annual voting: state, regional and national elections are held whenever they are called, sometimes several times a year,.

Voting in the Czech Republic is on Saturday and Sunday, and like in small-town or village Germany, I’ve seen pubs used as the polling places.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:26:28am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany votes on a Sunday. And in many small towns, the local pub is the polling place, AND IT IS OPEN,

For that, they have no regulated system of bi-annual voting: state, regional and national elections are held whenever they are called, sometimes several times a year,.

We should have automatic voter registration on your 18th birthday or upon gaining citizenship, an extended voting period including Sundays, and enough polling stations to ensure no-one has to wait hours to vote. The federal government should give the states enough money to pay for it. I think we should also go nationwide with multiparty primaries, such as they have in California and Louisiana, in which all candidates compete in the same primary regardless of party, and then there is a run-off between the top two candidates. That will help prevent a tiny cadre of party extremists from effectively selecting our government.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:32:55am

re: #161 Big Beautiful Door

We should have automatic voter registration on your 18th birthday or upon gaining citizenship, an extended voting period including Sundays, and enough polling stations to ensure no-one has to wait hours to vote. The federal government should give the states enough money to pay for it. I think we should also go nationwide with multiparty primaries, such as they have in California and Louisiana, in which all candidates compete in the same primary regardless of party, and then there is a run-off between the top two candidates. That will help prevent a tiny cadre of party extremists from effectively selecting our government.

Parties are private organizations and can conduct their candidate selection process as they see fit.

But it is in the nation’s interest to have as many people as possible actively participating in the electoral process

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GrFace  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:35:10am

So not only is Trump in the back pocket of Putin but also every Kaiju that has ever threatened mankind (recall that Gorgo and Reptilicus attacked NATO countries).

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A Mom Anon  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:35:51am

re: #161 Big Beautiful Door

I have a question about our system including more than two parties. Wouldn’t that then mean that, if we ended up with 5 parties for example, that 21 percent of the voters could end up being the majority? I’m not sure how that would be a good thing. Am I wrong about that?

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ozharas  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:38:32am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

I have a question about our system including more than two parties. Wouldn’t that then mean that, if we ended up with 5 parties for example, that 21 percent of the voters could end up being the majority? I’m not sure how that would be a good thing. Am I wrong about that?

bring in preferential voting.

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GrFace  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:39:14am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

Even in parliamentary systems where this happens you have to have a majority lest you have a coalition government. The EC requires a 50+ majority to have a president. The Speakership requires an absolute majority, too.

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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:52:50am

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

Oh wow. That is pretty devastating. Nice to see the Clinton team not laying back on this guy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:53:38am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

I have a question about our system including more than two parties. Wouldn’t that then mean that, if we ended up with 5 parties for example, that 21 percent of the voters could end up being the majority? I’m not sure how that would be a good thing. Am I wrong about that?

The runoff election would be between the top two vote getters, so the winner would automatically get a majority of the vote.

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dangerman  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:58:20am

BREAKING NEWS: Donald Trump names his economic team after a grasshopper

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:00:45am

re: #167 BigPapa

Oh wow. That is pretty devastating. Nice to see the Clinton team not laying back on this guy.

They will just point out that the Clinton foundation took money from Russia or the like, and true or not, it will become an article of faith.

But the key thing with the ad is that they are quoting conservatives like Will and Krauthammer, which is a sign that the mood is souring on DT even in his own party

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garzooma  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:06:04am

I didn’t see this posted elsewhere. Thought it was pretty clever:

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sagehen  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:07:46am

re: #156 Bass Reeves

Step one would probably be a national voting day holiday, where if you are low income, you can afford to take the time off work (prolly require tax incentive to employer from the govt) to go vote. Fund the tax incentive from some of those impressively high campaign war chests.

Step two would be to successfully overturn all of the Republican attempts to prevent young and low income people (and minorities) from voting.

We don’t need a voting day holiday; just make it 10 days of voting, 8am to 8pm, and I’m pretty sure everybody can get there.

Also, a new VRA that considers things like having the ratio of machines to registered voters be the same for every congressional district within a state; those 5 hour lines at urban precincts (when it’s 20 minutes in the burbs) do as much damage as voter ID or any other disenfranchisement. (also… ex-cons who’ve done their sentence, finished with parole, shouldn’t have to jump through a lot of hoops to get their vote back. Even felons. If their sentence has been fully served, it’s been fully served, and they get to be treated like citizens again.)

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:09:24am

re: #100 FormerDirtDart

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lawhawk  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:10:56am

re: #157 b.d.

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Bass Reeves  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:22:33am

re: #172 sagehen

We don’t need a voting day holiday; just make it 10 days of voting, 8am to 8pm, and I’m pretty sure everybody can get there.

Also, a new VRA that considers things like having the ratio of machines to registered voters be the same for every congressional district within a state; those 5 hour lines at urban precincts (when it’s 20 minutes in the burbs) do as much damage as voter ID or any other disenfranchisement. (also… ex-cons who’ve done their sentence, finished with parole, shouldn’t have to jump through a lot of hoops to get their vote back. Even felons. If their sentence has been fully served, it’s been fully served, and they get to be treated like citizens again.)

I’m pretty sure 10 days of voting is way more expensive than just one single day of paid vacation. The focus of a voting holiday(for me) is on the low income segment of the population, not the lazy. But I’m totally on board with a new VRA, those 5 hour lines are by design in some cases, and I’ve never understood why people who’ve served their sentence can’t vote.

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MsJ  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:22:58am

re: #108 allegro

To those who recommended Stranger Things: thank you! That was so fun. Just finished watching the last episode during which I had to repeatedly remind myself to breathe.

On a political note… during Friday-out-to-dinner my friend and I talked about what a numbnuts Trump is and I kinda noted that the couple sitting at the table next to us was real quiet. The wife caught my eye with a kinda little smile and twinkling eye; her hubby was squirmy. I started talking about the Russia ties when the guy said “excuse me, what?!” I got into the GOP platform stuff, Manafort, Flynn, etc. and the guy just went nuts - not at me, at Trump and the GOP. Seems this was the bridge too far for the guy. His wife, when he wasn’t looking, mouthed “thank you”. Heh, another Republican vote lost.

That, my friends, is god’s work right there. Bravo.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:25:24am

re: #175 Bass Reeves

I’m pretty sure 10 days of voting is way more expensive than just one single day of paid vacation. The focus of a voting holiday(for me) is on the low income segment of the population, not the lazy. But I’m totally on board with a new VRA, those 5 hour lines are by design in some cases, and I’ve never understood why people who’ve served their sentence can’t vote.

Plenty of states have extended voting, so it can’t be that expensive, and I want the lazy or forgetful or people who just can’t get to the polls on a particular day for one reason or another to vote too.

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MsJ  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:26:45am

re: #111 Kragar

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darthstar  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:29:21am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:30:41am
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darthstar  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:31:17am

Mornin’ everyone.

Slept in.

USA won the first gold, apparently. We can all go home now.

Time to walk the dog.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:35:54am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:36:11am

Good morning Lizards. Someone else will take care of the initial food posting I am sure. So I will supply flowers and butterflies…

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:38:28am

re: #180 FormerDirtDart

Waiting to see how our home town boy does in the 10 meter air pistol competition today.

Twin Falls sharpshooter gets early test in Rio

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:40:37am

re: #184 Bubblehead II

Waiting to see how our home town boy does in the 10 meter air pistol competition today.

Twin Falls sharpshooter gets early test in Rio

How small must the target be, shooting an air rifle off a platform rest at 33 feet?

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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:42:31am

Tis the start of the Medal Count season.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:43:21am

re: #185 Blind Frog Belly White

How small must the target be, shooting an air rifle off a platform rest at 33 feet?

Rules of the Game: Air pistol shooting with Will Brown

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:43:56am

re: #172 sagehen

We don’t need a voting day holiday; just make it 10 days of voting, 8am to 8pm, and I’m pretty sure everybody can get there.

[snip]

Not that I disagree that we need to give more time for people to be able to vote,, but … my time as judge of elections for my precinct showed that there is a sever lack of people to run the polling places. The more days you add on the bigger that problem becomes.

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jeffreyw  Aug 6, 2016 • 7:48:28am

re: #183 Feline Fearless Leader

Nice pics! It’s so damn hard to catch one of those yellow butterflies still long enough for a shot.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:03:56am

Now here is something I would like to see happening everywhere.

Capitol Hill bar offering customers ‘date rape drug’ testing kits

Each card allows a person to test for two of the most common date rape drugs: GHB (Gamma Hydroxybutyrate) and Ketamine. Customers put a drop of their drink on the “A” and “B” dots, and if the dots turn blue, then it is positive test and your drink has likely been drugged.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:09:16am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That, unfortunately, is all but a given. People are going to quickly grow disenchanted with Hillary, she will be too moderate for either Left or Right, and will vote in “protest” again in the mid-terms.

Are we forgetting The Revolution already?

Bernie is going to teach the younger voters how this all works so there will be change in government to a more progressive and liberal future.

Isn’t he?

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:17:39am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will just point out that the Clinton foundation took money from Russia or the like, and true or not, it will become an article of faith.

But the key thing with the ad is that they are quoting conservatives like Will and Krauthammer, which is a sign that the mood is souring on DT even in his own party

The ad might not do much for the younger working male demo, which is a big part of Trump’s support. But having Will and Krauthammer in it might be enough to change the 55+ voter group who is probably the second largest demo he is counting on.

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Great White Snark  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:20:12am

re: #190 Bubblehead II

Now here is something I would like to see happening everywhere.

Capitol Hill bar offering customers ‘date rape drug’ testing kits

Each card allows a person to test for two of the most common date rape drugs: GHB (Gamma Hydroxybutyrate) and Ketamine. Customers put a drop of their drink on the “A” and “B” dots, and if the dots turn blue, then it is positive test and your drink has likely been drugged.

I imagine coming back from the restroom to find my date testing her drink. “Was it something I said?!”

All kidding aside remember the response to the (hoax) nail polish that would do that?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:20:35am

What they’re doing wonderfully I think is using their own words that a lot of conservatives are worried about his FP. They may not love or even like HRC but they know she’ll surround herself with capable people and not destroy our alliances. I don’t like Krauthammer and Will but both men appreciate NATO’s importance. Trump obviously does not.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:30:48am

re: #182 Jenner7

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Crooked Hillary said loudly, and for the world to see, that she “SHORT CIRCUITED” when answering a question on her e-mails. Very dangerous!
10:24 AM - 6 Aug 2016
1,239 1,239 Retweets 3,100 3,100 likes

He sure doesn’t pay attention to all the criticism he gets about turning Hillary’s and others statements into stupid comeback tit-for-tat wars that make only him look bad and really have nothing to do with his run.

We have had all the handlers, conservative wonks and anyone that cares about his campaign pulling their hair out for two weeks now. There is not much hair left.

I give him one more week and I have a feeling people that still care will just walk the hell away. He is wasted effort.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:34:09am
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KGxvi  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:38:45am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

What they’re doing wonderfully I think is using their own words that a lot of conservatives are worried about his FP. They may not love or even like HRC but they know she’ll surround herself with capable people and not destroy our alliances. I don’t like Krauthammer and Will but both men appreciate NATO’s importance. Trump obviously does not.

What has confused me beyond belief is Trump’s continued assertion that other countries need to pay us for help. I understand an active, even hawkish foreign policy. I understand a more withdrawn, even isolationist foreign policy. But running a world wide protection racket just confuses me - at least given the current world stage (it would absolutely make sense for the British or Spanish or French Empires of the 17th and 18th centuries to take this tack, but the US in the 21st century?). But then, I also remember that he is an idiot of epic proportions that has no interest in even trying to understand the game.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:40:36am

Ouch!

I have an Olympic bike race going on NBC Sports Network and they are doing a steep plunge down a hill with ‘s’ curves. An Iranian guy just had his bike wobble a bit and he went straight off, hit a low guardrail and then tumbled almost back first and upside down straight into a wall all about 10 feet off the road. I hope he is going to be okay, he slammed pretty hard.

And, here I am worried about an Iranian bicyclist. Hey, it’s the Olympics…bring the world together and forget crap like Trump.

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Great White Snark  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:43:04am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, funny but…

SUHL - JULY 22: (L-R) Silver medalist Galina AVRAMENKO of Ukraine, Gold medalist YANG Zeng of the People’s Republic of China and Bronze medalist Julia EYDENZON of the Russian Federation pose with their medals after the 10m Running Target Mixed Women Event at the Shooting Center Suhl during Day 7 of the ISSF World Championship Running Target on July 22, 2016 in Suhl, Germany. (Photo by Nicolo Zangirolami)

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:43:30am

re: #198 ObserverArt

Ouch!

I have an Olympic bike race going on NBC Sports Network and they are doing a steep plunge down a hill with ‘s’ curves. An Iranian guy just had his bike wobble a bit and he went straight off, hit a low guardrail and then tumbled almost back first and upside down straight into a wall all about 10 feet off the road. I hope he is going to be okay, he slammed pretty hard.

And, here I am worried about an Iranian bicyclist. Hey, it’s the Olympics…bring the world together and forget crap like Trump.

Bicycles are the Kumbaya of this millennium. Or decade, at least.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:47:33am

re: #200 wrenchwench

Bicycles are the Kumbaya of this millennium. Or decade, at least.

This is a crazy race all up and down. I joined in late so I am not sure what the race entails as far as length, stages, etc. It seems like it is going on for some time. I had a meeting north of town at 9:30 and the race started about 8:30 EDST and it is still going.

Going to search now for the details.

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darthstar  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:47:56am

Back from said walk.

Craig is continuing his tutelage of Eartha in the ways of dispatching rodents. Last night’s lesson was a mouse that wasn’t exactly dead yet. He just marches across the living room floor with it in his mouth while we’re watching Blue Hawaii and sets it on the floor. She’s not big enough or strong enough yet to finish said job so it was up to me.

Right now he’s out on the lawn staring at a gopher hole. Sprinklers ran last night and that flushes them to the surface.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:57:01am

re: #201 ObserverArt

This is a crazy race all up and down. I joined in late so I am not sure what the race entails as far as length, stages, etc. It seems like it is going on for some time. I had a meeting north of town at 9:30 and the race started about 8:30 EDST and it is still going.

Going to search now for the details.

I used to read here a lot when I was into bike racing. They have a link to running commentary, but not video (that I’ve found).

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:01:58am

re: #203 wrenchwench

I used to read here a lot when I was into bike racing. They have a link to running commentary, but not video (that I’ve found).

I found this link that explains today’s men’s event. 6 hours. It has a map and I guess the real hard climb is yet to come. Yikes.

They did a section with cobblestones and several riders kept having their chains popping off.

Here’s the link if interested.

Rio 2016 Olympic Road Race and Time Trial: route, map and schedule

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:08:52am

Watching Womens Rugby Sevens right now. US vs Fiji.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:10:04am

re: #204 ObserverArt

I found this link that explains today’s men’s event. 6 hours. It has a map and I guess the real hard climb is yet to come. Yikes.

They did a section with cobblestones and several riders kept having their chains popping off.

Here the link if interested.

Rio 2016 Olympic Road Race and Time Trial: route, map and schedule

Cobbled sections in races should be keeping the manufacturers focused on reliability as well as light weight. They may be failing there.

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Bass Reeves  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:13:06am

re: #206 wrenchwench

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KGxvi  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:13:46am

re: #205 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Watching Womens Rugby Sevens right now. US vs Fiji.

I suspect that if my college had a (club) rugby team when I was there, it’d be even money if I’d have played. But it does look like a bit more than running than I typically prefer

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KGxvi  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:15:42am

Also, I’m slightly annoyed at NBC, they were streaming water polo games with no commentary (which, I’m absolutely fine with), but are apparently not showing every game. Why not just keep the camera running?

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:17:14am

re: #207 Bass Reeves

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:22:56am

I got interested in the men’s road race and they have cut away to swimming…so I went to online and I can’t log in due to a system error hooking me up with my cable provider…Time Warner.

Grrrrrrrrrr. I hope I get to see the last hill climb and descent, they built it up as the hardest Olympic bike course finish stage ever.

I just don’t get it.

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Bass Reeves  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:23:33am

re: #210 wrenchwench

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Also, your name doesn’t come up when I try to send you a specific message.

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Tigger2005  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:25:32am

Erick Erickson is FURIOUS about Trump’s comments on NATO and his response is powerful. Whatever he’s said before, whatever you may think of him, it can’t diminish the punch behind what he has to say…how the only time Article 5 of the NATO charter has been invoked was September 11, 2001, and every single one of our allies leaped to our defense.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:28:15am

re: #213 Tigger2005

Erick Erickson is FURIOUS about Trump’s comments on NATO and his response is powerful. Whatever he’s said before, whatever you may think of him, it can’t diminish the punch behind what he has to say…how the only time Article 5 of the NATO charter has been invoked was September 11, 2001, and every single one of our allies leaped to our defense.

Link pls?

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:28:22am

re: #212 Bass Reeves

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:31:56am
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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:32:45am

re: #212 Bass Reeves

Also, your name doesn’t come up when I try to send you a specific message.

That’s odd.

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Tigger2005  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:32:57am

re: #214 Stanley Sea

theresurgent.com

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:33:42am

re: #214 Stanley Sea

Link pls?

theresurgent.com

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:35:26am

re: #218 Tigger2005

re: #219 Bubblehead II

Thanks!

Incredible schadenfreude reading these GOPers.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 9:52:32am

Getting to the top of the climb and about to hit the long plunge downhill at 50 mph. Good luck guys!

I was finally able to log into NBC Sports live…

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Bass Reeves  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:02:35am

re: #217 wrenchwench

I was trying very hard to get to colorado springs, but they didn’t have any spots for me. That would have been a great retirement spot too, even if my wife hates the sun.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:07:57am

re: #197 KGxvi

What has confused me beyond belief is Trump’s continued assertion that other countries need to pay us for help. I understand an active, even hawkish foreign policy. I understand a more withdrawn, even isolationist foreign policy. But running a world wide protection racket just confuses me - at least given the current world stage (it would absolutely make sense for the British or Spanish or French Empires of the 17th and 18th centuries to take this tack, but the US in the 21st century?). But then, I also remember that he is an idiot of epic proportions that has no interest in even trying to understand the game.

Trump doesn’t understand foreign policy, but he does understand protection rackets, probably from his Mafia connections.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:13:52am

re: #222 Bass Reeves

I was trying very hard to get to colorado springs, but they didn’t have any spots for me. That would have been a great retirement spot too, even if my wife hates the sun.

My husband loves the sun here, but does not care for the altitude, which is almost the same as Colorado Springs. (He smoked for 50 years.) He also misses the ocean. (Navy man.) We aren’t going anywhere for a while, but I think the Northwest, where we came from, is beckoning for us to return.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:16:39am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:30:38am

re: #224 wrenchwench

My husband loves the sun here, but does not care for the altitude, which is almost the same as Colorado Springs. (He smoked for 50 years.) He also misses the ocean. (Navy man.) We aren’t going anywhere for a while, but I think the Northwest, where we came from, is beckoning for us to return.

I keep looking at Tacoma. Beautiful, you can still get a lot of home for the money there and it’s a a big enough city to have quality hospitals and other services.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:31:29am

re: #226 goddamnedfrank

I keep looking at Tacoma. Beautiful, you can still get a lot of home for the money there and it’s a a big enough city to have quality hospitals and other services.

Haha, I was just on Zillow / Tacoma!

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:33:40am

LOL:

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:39:55am

re: #228 Lidane

LOL:

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When the data doesn’t tell you what you want to hear you have to start questioning the data sources. Otherwise, you’re stuck to questioning your assumptions about what the reality is. Therefore, the SMOTI opts to claim skewing.

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Ming5000  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:47:40am

Someone at LGF pointed out yesterday that Jim Hoft, Stupidest Man on the Internet, SMOTI, is becoming common enough to be GOOGLEABLE.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:50:00am

This bike race is brutal. Just had three guys crash in the decent. They are doing this climb up and down three times before they turn off to the finish. Guys are dropping out and apparently the fatigue is causing some of the guys still trying not to hit their lines right and off they go. Endurance racing for sure.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:50:23am

LOL these people.

just his bqwhatever

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:56:41am

re: #226 goddamnedfrank

I keep looking at Tacoma. Beautiful, you can still get a lot of home for the money there and it’s a a big enough city to have quality hospitals and other services.

Who put the ‘tac’ in Tacoma? Or, rather, Tacoma put the ‘tac’ in Seatac. I still marvel that they made that city, SeaTac. Nice area, though, but Mr. w comes from a small town, and has enjoyed the smallness or our current town. The question will be, ‘do I want to work in a big-city bike shop where I can make a little money? Or do we want to live in a little place where we don’t need as much?’ If such a thing exists.

When we moved to NM, we put our stuff in storage in Albuquerque and drove around the state for 6 weeks. We’d both been to the state before, but not the place we ended up. I was offered jobs in 2 places, Santa Fe, and here. They paid the same. Costs 3 times as much to live in Santa Fe. Plus, they have winter up there.

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Brian J.  Aug 6, 2016 • 10:57:36am

re: #228 Lidane

LOL:

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According to the Green Papers, Hillary received 16,849,779 primary votes* to Trumpy’s 14,010,177. That means that between the two of them, Hillary received 54.6% to Trumpy’s 45.4%, so the sample should favor Democrats by 9.2%. The polls are thus skewed toward Trump and overstating his performance.

//

* This does not include the “beauty contest” primaries in Nebraska and Washington.

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:02:17am

What in the actual fuck is this?

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:04:30am

“As with seemingly everything else in his life, Mr. Trump got one handed to him instead of earning it,” Kerr wrote on the page. “That being said, as a Purple Heart recipient who earned one the old-fashioned way by returning from Afghanistan one leg lighter, I fully endorse his desire to earn one and would happily oblige his interest in doing so, by being one of the first to chip in to fly him to the conflict zone of his choosing.”

But Kerr said he realizes actually sending Trump to a war zone is unrealistic, and the money will actually be going to “a good cause that Donald Trump would vehemently oppose: aiding Syrian refugees.”

As of Wednesday afternoon, the page had received just more than $1,000 of its $5,000 goal, from about 50 benefactors.

Kerr added at the bottom, “Also yes, the orange theme on this page is very much intentional.”

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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:16:34am

re: #235 blueraven

More about Clinton’s insincerity. Because women have to be way better than men, because.

No mention of Trump’s incessant lying.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:17:09am

Well crud. The local guy missed moving up to the 10 meter air gun finals by 3 points. He placed 12th

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:21:12am

Yusra Mardini, who is part of the Refugee Olympic Team, has won her first heat in the women’s 100m fly. swimswam.com

Her time was 1:09:21, a little slower than her qualifying time, and several seconds slower than competitors’ time in other heats. So, she’s got some stiff competition ahead of her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:22:34am
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darthstar  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:22:39am

re: #235 blueraven

What in the actual fuck is this?

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They’re just trying to keep it close.

Gary Johnson’s getting closer to 10% in the polls. If he starts getting close to 15% he gets to participate in the debates…then things will get really interesting and stories like this where the NYT is reaching for anything to keep Clinton from running away with this will dissipate.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:23:57am

I just kicked a guy out of the shop, the second time I’ve done that in 17 years. It wasn’t a temper thing, either, I have a note from the last time he was here (last March) to remind me I wanted to. He was being a jerk today, last March, and every time he’s been in here. Once in a while he spent money. Then he’d complain and return the item sometimes. Today, he asked the price of an item. I told him $70. He scoffed and said, ‘How about $25?’ I said (all Elaine Benes-style), ‘Get out’. He didn’t do anything, and I said, “No, I mean it. If you’re going to offer me less than 50% of the price of an item, I just don’t need your business that bad. Get out.’ He left, muttering ‘You just lost a customer.’ I said, ‘Sorry, not’. I don’t know whether he heard the ‘not’.

The first time was 14 or 15 years ago. A different guy. I can tell you about that one, too. It’s like yesterday in my feeble head.

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:30:44am

re: #237 BigPapa

More about Clinton’s insincerity. Because women have to be way better than men, because.

No mention of Trump’s incessant lying.

All this kvetching by the media over her email answers is sick. What they want is for her to say…Yes, I put the national security at risk. Why cant she just say that?!!

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dangerman  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:32:22am

re: #243 wrenchwench

my two favorite stories when i was in retail

(an old joke that i actually got to use)
“you sell tanks for 100? well the shop down the road sells em for 75”
“yeah go there, it’s a good deal”
well they’re out right now
you know when we’re out we sell them for x too

this one was true and original - same scenario
“they sell tanks for 75”
really? wow - i’ll make you a deal - you go and buy five of them for me right now and bring em here and i’ll give you one for free
…never seen again

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:34:56am

OK, now I’m curious…

Officials said Jackson cut and dyed her hair as search teams frantically searched for her. When the police found her near a river overlook, she was wearing clothes different from what she was last seen in — and she tried to flee when law enforcement officer approached her, park officials said in a statement.

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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:44:30am

re: #243 wrenchwench

I have no patience with people like that. Not to make light of people with the real disease, but they’re social cancer. No respect for your time or what you provide them.

I’m still amazed at some ultra wealthy clients that will think nothing of spending huge $ on art or a beachfront property but will complain that my labor rate is too high… and I’ve been in my profession for 27 years.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:44:47am

re: #246 FormerDirtDart

OK, now I’m curious…

Same here. She planned on disappearing. The question is why?

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GrFace  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:45:34am

re: #242 darthstar

They’re just trying to keep it close.

Gary Johnson’s getting closer to 10% in the polls. If he starts getting close to 15% he gets to participate in the debates…then things will get really interesting and stories like this where the NYT is reaching for anything to keep Clinton from running away with this will dissipate.

Wonder if the polls are being skewed by Trump-Bros wanting to give their hero a leg up in the debate.

250
mmmirele  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:45:47am

re: #248 Bubblehead II

Same here. She planned on disappearing. The question is why?

I’m going with the “she met a guy” reason. I could be wrong, but she’s 16.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:48:53am

Dog damn…

252
ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:51:59am

Well, the bike race is over now. I really feel for the poor Polish guy who was in the lead group of 4 for the longest time in the three passes up and down the hill. On the last decent three of the leaders crashed out and that left the Polish guy all alone.

Meanwhile in the follow group, two guys decided to break out and make a dash and they managed to close up on the Polish guy with less than a mile to go. At about one-half mile they passed the Polish guy sadly, but he tried to draft them and see if he could join them in a sprint for the gold. It was not to be…he came up just meters short but he got a bronze out of it.

It was won by Greg van Avermaet from Belgium. Silver goes to Jakob Fuglsang from Denmark. Bronze was Rafal Majka from Poland.

What a race. 6+ hours and it comes down to a few feet. Wow.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:52:35am

re: #248 Bubblehead II

Same here. She planned on disappearing. The question is why?

Definitely; and the different clothes and the hair cut/dye job? Seems she had a place to do that and get those clothes. Where? And why?

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:53:08am

re: #250 mmmirele

I’m going with the “she met a guy” reason. I could be wrong, but she’s 16.

That’s one scenario and I can think of several others as well. In any case she is going to have to answer some very serious questions as to why she did this.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:53:42am

Nice finish to the men’s road race. But the best-ever Olympic bike race finish was in 1984, at the first women’s road race, when American Connie Carpenter threw her bike over the finish line (pushed it in front of herself while staying on it) to beat American Rebecca Twigg by the width of a tire.

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retired cynic  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:55:37am

re: #255 wrenchwench

I could not get over the fat guys with flags running out into the scrum of racing bikes, motorcycles, cars and vans…. good grief, they could have caused such an accident!

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 11:56:04am

re: #244 blueraven

All this kvetching by the media over her email answers is sick. What they want is for her to say…Yes, I put the national security at risk. Why cant she just say that?!!

Which reminds me, I have not heard back from Chris Cillizza, Washington Post, regarding an email I sent him yesterday about the coverage of Hillary’s email.

Gee, I wonder why?

Not that I expected too, but I thought I’d give it a shot. Who knows maybe he will surprise me come Monday when he is back in his office, or something.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:00:04pm

re: #242 darthstar

They’re just trying to keep it close.

Gary Johnson’s getting closer to 10% in the polls. If he starts getting close to 15% he gets to participate in the debates…then things will get really interesting and stories like this where the NYT is reaching for anything to keep Clinton from running away with this will dissipate.

Darth…don’t know if’n you are still around, but I wonder if you saw this blog article that was posted here last evening about an LA Times OpEd Bernie apparently wrote last night. Thought you might be interested.

bipartisanreport.com - JUST IN: Bernie Sanders Publishes Stunning OpEd In LA Times, Makes Major Announcement

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:03:49pm

re: #253 Dr Lizardo

Definitely; and the different clothes and the hair cut/dye job? Seems she had a place to do that and get those clothes. Where? And why?

That’s just the thing. This was thought out in advance. Was it her idea or someone else?
She was running. The question is, from what or to whom.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:04:24pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

Fixed this.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:05:12pm

At the Green Party convention……

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:07:55pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

Fixed this.

Thanks!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:08:49pm

My take on Johnson’s percentage in the polls is that you’ll see that a lot in the summer - a third party candidate polling a significant percentage. They almost invariably fade after labor day.

Sure, Perot was different, but he’d been making his presence felt for months before the conventions, even leading the field for a bit before letting on that he was crazy as a bedbug. And not crazy in a ‘you gotta be crazy to think you can win’ way - crazy in a ‘Vietcong are coming to kill me and disrupt my daughter’s wedding!’ way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:09:25pm

re: #261 Stanley Sea

At the Green Party convention……

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Fuck Cornel West.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:11:27pm

I always hate to bring it up, but I get used to some of the Lizards and their comments. It’s like seeing someone you know.

Two seem to be not around lately…maybe I just missed they are busy and away for some time.

Has either klys or RealityBasedSteve been around???

I know klys has been working hard to get into race shape. And RBS is always going diving somewhere. I hope they are well!

266
BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:12:28pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

Saturday tech support. Not bad.

267
Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:13:14pm

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

My take on Johnson’s percentage in the polls is that you’ll see that a lot in the summer - a third party candidate polling a significant percentage. They almost invariably fade after labor day.

Sure, Perot was different, but he’d been making his presence felt for months before the conventions, even leading the field for a bit before letting on that he was crazy as a bedbug. And not crazy in a ‘you gotta be crazy to think you can win’ way - crazy in a ‘Vietcong are coming to kill me and disrupt my daughter’s wedding!’ way.

Johnson might be different this time because Trump is the crazy candidate.

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allegro  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:13:20pm

The bestest boy ever

Little
2000 (?) - Aug. 6, 2016

You brought such love and joy to our lives with your sweet, gentle nature. We loved you so and will miss your light. RIP my precious.

269
calochortus  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:13:45pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

I always hate to bring it up, but I get used to some of the Lizards and their comments. It’s like seeing someone you know.

Two seem to be not around lately…maybe I just missed they are busy and away for some time.

Has either klys or RealityBasedSteve been around???

I know klys has been working hard to get into race shape. And RBS is always going diving somewhere. I hope they are well!

I’m pretty sure Klys and Mr. K. have been away the latter part of the week and probably the weekend.

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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:13:53pm

v4vsKkWbUCBRrnwanjtUk+G9wZkwx0vSp14Jv8pgY+SMuVlyepUN8DRi3Ok7xLDRc34uerRYHj0O5NOgpuiao3hvqNoiEP9DQhhpIzm8Gvk5vqWubbNNNMu1bkdx5/a+d3VeG3WWKyuNnfvcp7fEJ4AAOXDicLmh7/u2Uq8i1gKOxeyIizUd24sVHNZZdFpGjXa0Yy+4S/cHMdMDUCrMCNFQ1tubpclZrF+1e6ijf4bfEfADcUgXDPfh7NmwB0ax2w+V0wqRBEWZTOPAeTZGFdUHEdl8LEJrmUffulGw+QrVtfxKEfA6rISfwPLUP0zAfYRC3TM7j/w=

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:13:53pm

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

My take on Johnson’s percentage in the polls is that you’ll see that a lot in the summer - a third party candidate polling a significant percentage. They almost invariably fade after labor day.

Sure, Perot was different, but he’d been making his presence felt for months before the conventions, even leading the field for a bit before letting on that he was crazy as a bedbug. And not crazy in a ‘you gotta be crazy to think you can win’ way - crazy in a ‘Vietcong are coming to kill me and disrupt my daughter’s wedding!’ way.

Is it okay to say Johnson is weird??? Damn sure he is libertarian…hard to figure out what he is actually doing and standing for.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:14:29pm

re: #268 allegro

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Little
2000 (?) - Aug. 6, 2016

You brought such love and joy to our lives with your sweet, gentle nature. We loved you so and will miss your light. RIP my precious.

I’m so sorry Allegro.

273
Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:14:42pm

re: #266 BigPapa

Saturday tech support. Not bad.

You should see his Sunday morning tech support. Makes me glad I decided to subscribe.

274
jeffreyw  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:16:44pm

re: #268 allegro

(((and even more hugs)))) It’s always, always hard. Great looking boy.

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b.d.  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:17:21pm

re: #268 allegro

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Little
2000 (?) - Aug. 6, 2016

You brought such love and joy to our lives with your sweet, gentle nature. We loved you so and will miss your light. RIP my precious.

Sorry Allegro, Little was lucky to have someone like y’all that loved him.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:17:34pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:19:06pm

re: #268 allegro

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Little
2000 (?) - Aug. 6, 2016

You brought such love and joy to our lives with your sweet, gentle nature. We loved you so and will miss your light. RIP my precious.

Awwww…no! Sad to hear that allegro.

My buddy the dog trainer had to put his last of a group of dogs he had down a couple weeks ago. Molly was my buddy too. A couple months earlier he had his favorite work/trainer example dog Bailey die from a bad heart.

I know how much it hurts! I helped take care of them both when he and his wife were on vacations, etc. I grew close just as a friend of the family.

Too much Lizards losing their pet friends lately. Hugs to all!

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A Cranky One  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:19:47pm

re: #268 allegro

My condolences. Always hard to lose a family member. Especially the furry ones who give unconditional love.

{{{Allegro}}}

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:21:34pm

re: #268 allegro

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Little
2000 (?) - Aug. 6, 2016

You brought such love and joy to our lives with your sweet, gentle nature. We loved you so and will miss your light. RIP my precious.

So sorry.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:23:07pm

In Houston with the Greens:

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Tigger2  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:23:29pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:25:12pm

re: #280 jaunte

In Houston with the Greens:

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Wonder how many of Bernie’s DNC delegates are now Green delegates.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:30:42pm

re: #270 BigPapa

zSSiiM+v4UISn76sjKYtj1yl0zAfrFQPLtB+ZuVf8UJef73hcAZHb0T3WAmTEqYJNfydd0aMWk75jDjyio3bNWdcUiRWV99V1fQWvxxQ1pvT5zg5+5YKrRfH0ghSMjKIo4WTAMuHQroSvtlUoDVQENCSMMcjbwdeEJ1YQqBHGEE672oFkywS4RxA5W1Ggyu7oHXLpXxGLy7Fsn6q7X6umXbl56xjr/CT0qMtFZ3rCzW9pBtnKKSJ+/P7/P6s3/+HBcAcT6ISkeI=

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:33:52pm
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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:37:22pm

Ha ha. Good to see Team Clinton not laying back and thinking he’ll do himself in.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:48:25pm

Charles, I’ve been noticing Twitter videos not showing up in Firefox lately. Do you have any ideas on how I can fix that?

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:50:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:56:47pm

re: #286 Single-handed sailor

Charles, I’ve been noticing Twitter videos not showing up in Firefox lately. Do you have any ideas on how I can fix that?

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I just checked with Firefox and they’re playing for me. But here’s something you can try, to see if it helps: sevenforums.com

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DarknSilentNight  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:58:31pm

re: #107 Frankie Five Angels

I’m currently sitting in the airport awaiting my flight home. Just spent the week trying to help my mother get her and my father’s house ready to sell. My father has been a packrat for the past 50+ years. The problem is that he won’t let go of ANYTHING.
The worse news is that, while driving around to various recycling centers and whatnot trying to get rid of the stuff he WILL allow to go, I get to listen to his rants about “Trump is the only chance this nation has” and “if Hillary wins, it’ll be worse than when Hitler took over Germany”.
Hmmmm. Project much?
When I mentioned that I had no intention of voting for a liar such as Trump, he began screaming, “Okay, SMART GUY! TELL ME ONE LIE HE’S TOLD! JUST ONE!” So I bring up the “thousands of Muslins dancing in the streets of NJ after 9/11” lie. His reply? “What does THAT have to do with anything?”
Sigh.
I’m so with you on this one. Soooo with you.

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CleverToad  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:10:44pm

re: #268 allegro

[Embedded content]

Little
2000 (?) - Aug. 6, 2016

You brought such love and joy to our lives with your sweet, gentle nature. We loved you so and will miss your light. RIP my precious.

{{hugs and sympathies}} What a sweet little face

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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:17:31pm

re: #252 ObserverArt

In these year’s Tour, there were a few stages that after 4-5 hours came down to literally millimeters.

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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:20:43pm

re: #268 allegro

So sorry for your loss. Looks like an awesome pup.


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Dessa - Velodrome (Live on KEXP)kexp.org presents Dessa performing "Velodrome" live in the KEXP studio. Recorded April 27, 2018. Host: Kevin ColeAudio Engineer: Kevin SuggsCameras: Alaia D'Alessandro, Kendall Rock & Justin WilmoreEditor: Scott Holpainen kexp.orgdoomtree.net
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Paramore: Caught in the Middle [OFFICIAL VIDEO] We're doing it LIVE! Get your tickets to see Paramore on tour now with Foster The People at paramore.net Paramore's music video for 'Caught In The Middle' from the album, After Laughter - available now on Fueled By Ramen. ...
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