Virtuoso Violinist Rachel Barton Pine: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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In today’s break from the political madhouse, a truly outstanding violinist plays J.S. Bach.

July 27, 2016 by TOM HUIZENGA • The music of Johann Sebastian Bach is essential, like air and water, for many classical musicians. Pianist András Schiff starts every day with Bach — sometimes before breakfast. “It’s like taking care of your inner hygiene. There’s something very pure about it,” he says. Cellist Matt Haimovitz notes that he’s been playing and thinking about the Bach Cello Suites for more than 30 years. He even plays them in bars.

Violinist Rachel Barton Pine began playing Bach in church at age 4. Ever since, she’s been mastering and re-mastering Bach’s set of six Sonatas and Partitas—more than two hours of solo violin music that looms like a proverbial Mount Everest for any serious fiddler. The trick is getting the details down. Bach left us with the notes but not much else. Pine recently analyzed every measure of these works, and prepared a new edition of the music with her own dynamic markings, phrasing indications, bowings and fingerings.

For this performance, Pine chose three contrasting movements from the set and plays them on her Guarneri del Gesu violin, which was built in 1742 — eight years before Bach died. She highlights the spirit of the dance in the “Tempo di Borea” (a Bourée from the First Partita). She unfolds a serene melody, just lightly accompanied, in the “Largo” (from the Third Sonata), and she closes with the intertwining “Fuga” (from the First Sonata), which sounds like three violinists in deep discussion.

Although the Sonatas and Partitas brim with technical demands, Pine says that every time she plays them, it’s as if she’s “conversing with the very best of friends.”

Testament: Complete Sonatas & Partitas For Solo Violin By J.S. Bach is available now:
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Set List:
J.S. Bach: “Tempo di Borea” (from Partita No. 1)
J.S. Bach: “Largo” (from Sonata No. 3)
J.S. Bach: “Fuga” (from Sonata No. 1)

Credits:
Producers: Tom Huizenga, Niki Walker; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Claire Hannah Collins; PA: Sophie Kemp; Photo: Claire Harbage/NPR.

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blueraven  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:52:35pm

aye, very creepy.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:53:47pm

reposted from end of last thread…

Charles, I’ve been noticing Twitter videos not showing up in Firefox lately. Do you have any ideas on how I can fix that?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 12:59:13pm

re: #2 Single-handed sailor

reposted from end of last thread…

Charles, I’ve been noticing Twitter videos not showing up in Firefox lately. Do you have any ideas on how I can fix that?

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They work for me in Firefox on my Mac, but here’s something you could try: sevenforums.com

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:01:57pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Thank you, I’ll look into that.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:07:53pm
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Great White Snark  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:19:57pm

Six year old drive is going out, throwing bad block errors etc. So got the data and it’s out. Just amazing how fast storage tech comes along. $150 for a 4tb WD Blue series drive. Easy install on Win 10. Not bad from 1tb to 4tb. Of course every time I take a pic on my 7DII it’s 30mb or so.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:26:51pm

Night Lizards. Season 2 GOT awaits.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:39:22pm

re: #1 blueraven

aye, very creepy.

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I guess Trump’s not the only one who hearts Putin in this race. I’m so sick of Stein posing as a purer than thou progressive when she’s in fact a dictator enabler and anti-vaccine kook who also apologizes to xenophobia in the UK and lies when she’s called out on it.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:45:08pm
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A Mom Anon  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:46:20pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

Since when did Russia become a role model for wingnuts? I thought they hated all that commie cold war dictator stuff. What’s the deal that makes Putin so special and appealing to them? I don’t get it. Is it just because he hates the gays? Wasn’t it just a couple of years ago that Glenn Beck was weeping about oligarchy and dictatorships? WTF?

Is it safe for us to perhaps assume here that Jill Stein is a wingnut then? I don’t know, these people freak me out.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:46:32pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

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Stein IMO at the least is extremely ignorant and thus unfit for any office. At worst, she’s okay with state sanctioned homophobia.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:47:50pm

re: #10 A Mom Anon

Since when did Russia become a role model for wingnuts? I thought they hated all that commie cold war dictator stuff. What’s the deal that makes Putin so special and appealing to them? I don’t get it. Is it just because he hates the gays? Wasn’t it just a couple of years ago that Glenn Beck was weeping about oligarchy and dictatorships? WTF?

Is it safe for us to perhaps assume here that Jill Stein is a wingnut then? I don’t know, these people freak me out.

Well, Putin uses religion too. Sergey can explain it much better than I can but since the rise of Putin, there has been a rise in influence for the Russian Orthodox Church which has a lot of the same reactionary opinions on gays and women that American Christian fundamentalists have.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:50:15pm

The Russian Orthodox Church by the way historically has been quite Antisemitic as well and this is who a lot of American Christian fundamentalists who profess to love Israel and Jews have been building their overseas bridges with.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:50:56pm

No frets! I think musicians who play stringed instruments with NO FRETS are superhuman. I had a friend in college who wasn’t up there with this woman doing the Tiny Desk thing, but she was good. She’d had lessons with Mehli Mehta, so she was better than my ears could discern. She had attempted suicide in college, so I worried about her, but when I googled her last year, I found she is giving violin lessons in California, where she’s always lived. Good to see.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:53:35pm

You know what infuriates me about Stein though? Using her to tell left of center people that shes their only real choice. Uh no, I know I won’t get every policy I want under Clinton but I’d get a good chunk of it under her and it would be administered decently too. Clinton probably has a list of people she wants for even the most obscure cabinet post and agencies. Stein, she probably doesn’t know what some of these agencies are let alone have people in mind to administer them.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:54:05pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I knew the ROC had a hold on the government over there, but it’s just so weird to me to see right wingers latch onto Russia like this.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:56:17pm

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Pablo Picasso drafts a centaur in mid-air with a “light pen” in southeastern France. Originally published in the January 30, 1950, issue of LIFE. (Gjon Mili—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images) #LIFElegends #Picasso #TBT

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Interesting Times  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:56:31pm

re: #16 A Mom Anon

I knew the ROC had a hold on the government over there, but it’s just so weird to me to see right wingers latch onto Russia like this.

Maybe they saw this Daily Show segment:

The Daily Show’s Jason Jones “may have found a conservative paradise in the most unexpected place — mother Russia.”

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:58:17pm

Just got a fundraising call from a Trump volunteer, asking for $125 (or more!) to defeat “Crooked Hillary.”

I told her Trump was worth $10 billion, he could afford to spend most of his fortune and still be a multi-billionaire, and he didn’t need to be asking regular people for money.

“Ok, well, thank you for your support.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 1:59:39pm

re: #16 A Mom Anon

I knew the ROC had a hold on the government over there, but it’s just so weird to me to see right wingers latch onto Russia like this.

Oh yeah, it’s certainly bizarre especially if one grew up in the Cold War.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:00:05pm

re: #19 jaunte

Just got a fundraising call from a Trump volunteer, asking for $125 (or more!) to defeat “Crooked Hillary.”

I told her Trump was worth $10 billion, he could afford to spend most of his fortune and still be a multi-billionaire, and he didn’t need to be asking regular people for money.

“Ok, well, thank you for your support.”

You ought to have tried to waste as much of his time as possible. More time you waste of his, the less time he has to solicit someone who might give Trump money. :)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:00:26pm

re: #18 Interesting Times

Maybe they saw this Daily Show segment:

I think Sergei will agree with me here but Russia’s always been fairly conservative place even in the Soviet years. For the most part, Soviet leaders were extremely prudish on things like sexual matters.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:01:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:02:27pm

Not that I’m disagreeing that it’s funny as shit seeing conservative tout Russia as a land of virtue because it is. It’s also funny that so called individual rights and pro freedom conservatives seem to be defining themselves more and more about what individual rights they oppose than any they support.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:03:48pm

re: #1 blueraven

aye, very creepy.

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It has been 25 years since the Soviet Union collapsed. Even so, the Russian agit-prop machine probably still has some legacy Cold War assets it can draw on, especially among those whose ideological commitment was less than sincere and who are therefore not troubled by the vast ideological gap between communists and Putinite fascists.

Recent events, or non-events, do comprehensively refute one popular right wing claim from the Cold War era: No current Democrat was ever on the Kremlin payroll, or otherwise colluding with the commies. Putin and Assange would certainly have exposed them by now if they had been.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:05:12pm

re: #21 Timothy Watson

I’m hoping the approach of pointing out how much money Trump says he has, vs. how much he’s been willing to spend, will be demoralizing to his unpaid volunteers.
Why would one of the Masters of the Real Estate Universe need my paltry $125?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:06:25pm

They are just lusting for a strongman.

It’s sad how scared they are. I keep going back to the lady interviewed at a trump rally who was terrified every time she went to the post office or grocery, expecting a terrorist attack.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:06:49pm

re: #1 blueraven

aye, very creepy.

As I mentioned the other day, a friend of mine, a very progressive union historian and organizer, has known Jill Stein for years and describes her as a nice person but quite insane.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:07:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:08:07pm

re: #29 Jenner7

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Is this some kind of joke by Reince? Ah yes, the Voting Rights Amendment, the amendment to your party’s credit that back in the day you supported but ever since you’ve been working to weaken in every single way.

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Split Ticket  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:08:15pm

re: #29 Jenner7

And why is he pointing that out? He had something to do with it? //

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:09:25pm

re: #23 Lidane

I have so been there. Yes, I’m talking about you up in cat heaven, my old “bestest friend” Murpy.

(Why did I use quote marks above? He was my bestest friend for 16 years. Miss ya madly, li’l buddy.)

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Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:10:05pm
Leaders of a Fredericksburg mosque say they are rethinking their expansion options after what they characterize as anti-Muslim backlash from neighbors.

After 27 years, the Islamic Center of Fredericksburg’s mosque has become too small for its 200 members. But broaching the subject of expansion with the community has been a challenge, board member Samer Shalaby said.

“We thought it was just a simple administrative process, and unfortunately it turned into a religious debate,” said Shalaby.

wtop.com

One of the main assholes opposing the expansion project who said, among other things, that Muhammad was a pedophile, is now in jail on child pornography charges.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:10:22pm

re: #29 Jenner7

Heh. Couldn’t help it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:12:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:13:15pm

re: #33 Timothy Watson

wtop.com

One of the main assholes opposing the expansion project who said, among other things, that Muhammad was a pedophile, is now in jail on child pornography charges.

If I had a say, I’d gladly welcome here in Loudoun County. I’m sick of Anti-Muslim bullshit.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:13:18pm
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Split Ticket  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:14:25pm

re: #37 De Kolta Chair

I love the “I Love Lucy” reference.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:15:49pm

It’s astounding how many so called constitutional conservatives can’t accept that constitutional protections apply to people who aren’t Christian conservatives.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:16:24pm

ROFL:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:17:01pm

re: #40 Lidane

ROFL:

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Wasn’t Wilson literally the head of the Florida GOP?

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:18:52pm

re: #38 Split Ticket

I love the “I Love Lucy” reference.

Me too. Did you know that Orson Welles wanted Lucy to star in his first movie, a thriller based on Eric Ambler’s “Smiler With A Knife” (what a great title!), but the studio, RKO, wouldn’t go for it mostly because she wasn’t very well known?

A few years later, another studio wouldn’t let Orson cast Agnes Moorehead in a lead role eventually played by Edward G. Robinson in The Stranger because, well you can guess why. I think it’s one of his most underrated films, and Robinson was great in it, but Agnes playing a Nazi hunter would’ve been mindblowing, especially for the time.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:18:59pm
Seattle-based Amazon is unveiling its first branded cargo plane, one of 40 jetliners that will make up the e-commerce giant’s own air transportation network as it takes more control of its delivery process.

The latest push to speed delivery of its products comes as the company ships an increasing number of packages worldwide. Amazon’s parcel volume was an estimated 1 billion packages in 2015. By way of comparison, in the 2016 fiscal year FedEx delivered about 3 billion packages for hundreds of thousands of customers.

Amazon has had issues with the reliability of air freight services. In 2013, it offered refunds to customers who received their Christmas orders late after bad weather and a jump in online shopping caused delays for UPS and FedEx.

wtop.com

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:19:00pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t Wilson literally the head of the Florida GOP?

Don’t know about that, but Dim is being dumber than usual. Wilson was literally the guy who made the Jeremiah Wright ads in 2008. He’s not a Democrat.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:19:55pm

re: #37 De Kolta Chair

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Infamous ‘Scary Lucy’ Statue Has Been Replaced
A new statue honoring Lucille Ball is hopefully less monstrous

“Scary Lucy” has been replaced by a less frightening statue of comedy legend Lucille Ball. (Uncredited)

Six of one….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:19:57pm

re: #44 Lidane

Don’t know about that, but Dim is being dumber than usual. Wilson was literally the guy who made the Jeremiah Wright ads in 2008. He’s not a Democrat.

Also the Anti-Max Cleland ads. Definitely not a DNC op in any way heh. SMOTI lives up to that name daily.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:20:00pm

re: #29 Jenner7

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:20:57pm

re: #29 Jenner7

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Isn’t this guy head of the party that recently celebrated that the SCOTUS overturned one of the key parts of the VRA, and has stood in the way of any effort to reintroduce it?

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Alephnaught  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:21:28pm

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Infamous ‘Scary Lucy’ Statue Has Been Replaced
A new statue honoring Lucille Ball is hopefully less monstrous

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Six of one….

And hopefully actually looks like Lucille Ball.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:22:06pm

It’s creepy AF when someone goes from being apolitical one day to needing to post 10 political stories from Steve Crowder in their TL in rapid succession. Sorry, I know you all don’t want to hear about this. Just depressing seeing a good friend become a wingnut stooge. You know, it just pisses me off because he knows the struggles I have faced as a graduate finding good paying work and then he posts shit that craps on poor people.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:22:21pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

Isn’t this guy head of the party that recently celebrated that the SCOTUS overturned one of the key parts of the VRA, and has stood in the way of any effort to reintroduce it?

The very same.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:22:26pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Also the Anti-Max Cleland ads. Definitely not a DNC op in any way heh. SMOTI lives up to that name daily.

Wilson’s Twitter TL is amusing in this election cycle. He’s #NeverTrump and hasn’t been shy about it. The far right and the Trumpkins hate him, which he seems to consider a sport. Hah.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:23:25pm

For what it’s worth, Free Republic did have a fairly active string on the arrest of alleged goat-molester Freddie Wadsworth in Georgia. The all-seeing mods have now deleted it. Apparently they were unable to find any evidence that Freddie is a Muslim or a registered Democrat, and he is obviously white.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:24:14pm

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Dang, I went and read the comments.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:24:15pm

re: #49 Alephnaught

And hopefully actually looks like Lucille Ball.

Could be…potato, potahto and such as.

Artist Carolyn Palmer prepares to apply a cold patina to her bronze statue of Lucille Ball. The sculptor was chosen to create a replacement statue for one dubbed “Scary Lucy.” (Mel Evans)
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:24:56pm

re: #52 Lidane

Wilson’s Twitter TL is amusing in this election cycle. He’s #NeverTrump and hasn’t been shy about it. The far right and the Trumpkins hate him, which he seems to consider a sport. Hah.

Yeah he’s been consistent. I don’t like him or the work he’s done but good on him for not doing team above all else shit in regards to Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:26:15pm

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel

For what it’s worth, Free Republic did have a fairly active string on the arrest of alleged goat-molester Freddie Wadsworth in Georgia. The all-seeing mods have now deleted it. Apparently they were unable to find any evidence that Freddie is a Muslim or a registered Democrat, and he is obviously white.

I think that’s what saddens me so much about politics these day. Something like that happens and the first instinct is “Hey let’s find out his party registration so we can say everyone registered with that party is like that”. That’s SMOTI’s MO and it just sickens me.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:26:51pm

re: #54 jaunte

Dang, I went and read the comments.

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We need these reminders occasionally.

Our neighbors are fucked up.

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Botsplainer  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:27:08pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

The Russian Orthodox Church by the way historically has been quite Antisemitic as well and this is who a lot of American Christian fundamentalists who profess to love Israel and Jews have been building their overseas bridges with.

The crowd of American converts who have positively ruined the already fucked up, Russian organized OCA have positively wrecked it. That Rod Dreher is a convert speaks volumes.

They tried to infest the more ethnic branches (Greek, Antiochians), but have mostly been shut out and aren’t real welcome.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:27:11pm

re: #54 jaunte

Dang, I went and read the comments.

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Is that a long-winded way of saying: “GET OFFA MAH LAWN!!11!!!”?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:28:28pm

re: #59 Botsplainer

The crowd of American converts who have positively ruined the already fucked up, Russian organized OCA have positively wrecked it. That Rod Dreher is a convert speaks volumes.

They tried to infest the more ethnic branches (Greek, Antiochians), but have mostly been shut out and aren’t real welcome.

Oh, I didn’t know Dreher converted to it.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:28:43pm

re: #60 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Apparently he’s just a short jump from Lucille Ball (or what have you) to “I hate black people.”

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Alephnaught  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:28:52pm

re: #55 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Could be…potato, potahto and such as.

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That’s a definite improvement.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:29:01pm

she does like to arpeggiate the triple stops quite a bit

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:30:45pm

re: #63 Alephnaught

That’s a definite improvement.

The original is kind of a weird cross between Wally Schirra and Eleanor Roosevelt.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:31:18pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:31:59pm

This lady’s timeline is non-stop ridiculous shit.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:32:09pm

re: #66 Jenner7

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Yes, that vacancy must be filled by Donald Trump, who probably will continue his Caligula routine by nominating his horse.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:32:36pm

re: #54 jaunte

Dang, I went and read the comments.

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Can I get non crazy person’s translation of that mess?

Also, Lucille Ball was a registered communist for anyone interested.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:33:04pm

re: #66 Jenner7

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His proudest moment was telling the President he wouldn’t be able to fulfill his constitutional obligation because Scalia had the audacity to die in a presidential election year? It’s okay, Mitch, you may have Garland blocked for now but you’re going to get plenty of judges that will make him look like Scalia in the years to come under Clinton that will make you regret being an obstructionist ass.

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Jay C  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:33:13pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Oh, I didn’t know Dreher converted to it.

Yes. I recall reading on his blog once that he converted from Catholicism because the RCC wasn’t quite theocratic enough for him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:33:25pm

re: #69 Timothy Watson

Can I get non crazy person’s translation of that mess?

Also, Lucille Ball was a registered communist for anyone interested.

Ozzie Nelson too, right?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:33:29pm

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Infamous ‘Scary Lucy’ Statue Has Been Replaced
A new statue honoring Lucille Ball is hopefully less monstrous

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Six of one….

doesnt look the least bit like looocy to me

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:33:33pm

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

This lady’s timeline is non-stop ridiculous shit.

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Yes, rallies, the all knowing explainer of a candidate’s popularity.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:33:57pm

re: #71 Jay C

Yes. I recall reading on his blog once that he converted from Catholicism because the RCC wasn’t quite theocratic enough for him.

Why did I think Dreher was a Fundamentalist type? Weird.

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ipsos  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:34:32pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I only trust polls that are based on lawn signs, in which case Bernie is still winning my neighborhood 100% to nothing.

//

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:35:14pm

re: #71 Jay C

Yes. I recall reading on his blog once that he converted from Catholicism because the RCC wasn’t quite theocratic enough for him.

The Skoptsy next, hopefully?

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:35:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:35:17pm

re: #76 ipsos

I only trust polls that are based on lawn signs, in which case Bernie is still winning my neighborhood 100% to nothing.

//

I only trust internet polls. // But seriously it takes a special kind of delusion to think that Trump is up 28% or honestly up at all.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:36:03pm

re: #76 ipsos

I only trust polls that are based on lawn signs, in which case Bernie is still winning my neighborhood 100% to nothing.

//

Based on my yard sign research, Gary Johnson will sweep West Houston.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:36:10pm

re: #78 jaunte

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So many of those working class voters unfortunately vote more with their hate and I hate to tell Bernie Sanders and his strongest supporters this but it wouldn’t have changed even if Bernie was the nominee.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:38:25pm

Off topic, whatever that is, but if you’re a fan of movies and comedy I highly recommend MST3K stars Frank Conniff and Trace Beaulieu’s weekly podcast “Movie Sign With The Mads,” costarring comedian and all around cool nerd Carolina Hidalgo. Each week they focus on a flick and take it from there. They’ve done four or five so far and they’re a lot of fun.

The archive of shows, a veritable cavalcade of comedy if you will, is here.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:38:31pm

re: #28 De Kolta Chair

As I mentioned the other day, a friend of mine, a very progressive union historian and organizer, has known Jill Stein for years and describes her as a nice person but quite insane.

we need a ranking of 2016 presidential candidates based on the diagnostic and statistical manual

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:38:55pm

Okay now I have to laugh because he’s saying liberals are so uptight that we’d ban breathing because it’s offensive to dead people. I know it’s hyperbole but uh dude your party’s platform declared pornography a national health crisis. Who’s actually uptight here? Certainly not the people who aren’t threatened by naked ladies.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:39:01pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Why did I think Dreher was a Fundamentalist type? Weird.

I thought he was a Fundie given how much he rants about transgender people and how society is going to collapse because of Miley Cyrus or whatever.

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Alephnaught  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:39:41pm

re: #54 jaunte

Dang, I went and read the comments.

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If I could be bothered responding to a comment like that (Which I wouldn’t, because I have more important things to do, like wash my hair or take a pee etc.) I’d respond something like: “Well, what you say is all potentially interesting, but it ignores the fundamental issue: that the original statue looks nothing at all like Lucille Ball.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:40:15pm

re: #85 Timothy Watson

I thought he was a Fundie given how much he rants about transgender people and how society is going to collapse because of Miley Cyrus or whatever.

Yeah that was why I thought it too though regarding transgendered people, the Pope has said some anti-transgendered stuff too. Honestly, it just amazes me that so many of these people who insist to me they’re anti government care so much about what another person wants to identify as gender wise.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:40:17pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

So many of those working class voters unfortunately vote more with their hate and I hate to tell Bernie Sanders and his strongest supporters this but it wouldn’t have changed even if Bernie was the nominee.

What, didn’t you know, Bernie being nominated would have led to a historical landslide as he managed to convert millions of working class Americans into the progressive ranks. People would have put their old hatreds aside and decided that they were prepared to pay huge new taxes to get “free” healthcare and “free” college. Even Republicans would put aside decades of fear over socialism and join up to help Bernie defeat Trump.

Or, at least, that’s what the Bros kept telling me./////

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Frankie Five Angels  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:40:49pm

re: #29 Jenner7

Is that a parody account?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:45:20pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

What, didn’t you know, Bernie being nominated would have led to a historical landslide as he managed to convert millions of working class Americans into the progressive ranks. People would have put their old hatreds aside and decided that they were prepared to pay huge new taxes to get “free” healthcare and “free” college. Even Republicans would put aside decades of fear over socialism and join up to help Bernie defeat Trump.

Or, at least, that’s what the Bros kept telling me./////

It was so hopelessly naive. I mean goddamn I hate saying it because my grandfather was WWC- White working class but the Bros really were naive as shit about the amount of bigotry and racial resentments that exist in that socio-economic class.

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Botsplainer  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:47:20pm

re: #85 Timothy Watson

I thought he was a Fundie given how much he rants about transgender people and how society is going to collapse because of Miley Cyrus or whatever.

Oh, he found plenty of like minds. Funny part is he got caught sockpuppeting around a bunch of internal politics surrounding a crisis involving OCA’s previous hierarch, an incompetent convert named Paffhausen.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:51:40pm

The other thing about the working class and this is why I got annoyed with Bernie is he ignored that that the Democrats still get strong support from Hispanic, Asian, and African-American working class voters. So when Bernie makes it out like white working class voters left the party over the party not being as lefty as it used to be on economics, I found that incredibly dishonest of him. Obviously not all white working class voters are bigots but a lot did get drawn into the GOP because the GOP knew how to appeal to their resentments about things like Civil Rights and even on economics that is having to share their government benefits with other people.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:52:42pm

re: #82 De Kolta Chair

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Off topic, whatever that is, but if you’re a fan of movies and comedy I highly recommend MST3K stars Frank Conniff and Trace Beaulieu’s weekly podcast “Movie Sign With The Mads,” costarring comedian and all around cool nerd Carolina Hidalgo. Each week they focus on a flick and take it from there. They’ve done four or five so far and they’re a lot of fun.

The archive of shows, a veritable cavalcade of comedy if you will, is here.

I second what De Kolta said about “Movie Sign”! Frank and Trace have me laughing so hard that I need hernia surgery!

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:53:34pm

re: #40 Lidane

ROFL:

Jim Hoft @gatewaypundit
Who is this @TheRickWilson tool? Is he a #DNC operative? And why is he stalking me?


Doesn’t Hoft know how to use Google?

It is bad enough he is unfamiliar with GOP players…but he can at least find out who they are.

He truly is one stupid mofo!

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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 2:57:45pm

re: #1 blueraven

One of several reasons why I say that she is simply evil.

It’s not like even the Soviet fellow travelers and useful idiots of old.

At the very least USSR pretended to have a solid human rights agenda (internationalism, anti-racism, anti-colonialism).

What does Putin’s Russia push but pure rightwing anti-liberal reaction?

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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:01:05pm

re: #10 A Mom Anon

They hated commies. There are no more commies to speak of. Rightwing reactionaries attract each other.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:01:24pm

re: #93 Joe Bacon

I second what De Kolta said about “Movie Sign”! Frank and Trace have me laughing so hard that I need hernia surgery!

They are fun aren’t they? I don’t know about you, Joe, but Frank and Trace are around my age, so I get a lot of their more obscure jokes. And I really like Carolina Hidalgo. She’s funny, has her own personality, and really does her research on the often craptastic flicks.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:02:12pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:03:52pm

The only ‘Dr. Jill’ I like is Biden. She’s cool.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:07:18pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

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Well, I guess this explains why all the “America is the root of all evils!” dudebros I know are coming out as Green supporters.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:08:57pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

The only ‘Dr. Jill’ I like is Biden. She’s cool.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:09:45pm

re: #78 jaunte

Joy Reid ✔ @JoyAnnReid
Wondering if working class Trump followers understand they’ve signed up for the same old GOP “feed the rich” boilerplate fronted by Trump.

“Voodoo economics” as George H.W. Bush so aptly called it during the 1980 GOP primary race. No fool he, but he was a sell-out since he soon signed on as Reagan’s running mate and got busy defending this self-same voodoo.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:12:30pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

“Voodoo economics” as George H.W. Bush so aptly called it during the 1980 GOP primary race. No fool he, but he was a sell-out since he soon signed on as Reagan’s running mate and got busy defending this self-same voodoo.

This is why I don’t understand the people willing to give him a pass nowadays. Sure, he may have been less stupid than Dubya or ¡HEB! but he was even more of a weasel.

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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:14:43pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

He seems nice. (Lock him up in an insane asylum and throw away the key.)

In January 2015, Baraka described the vigil for the victims of the Charlie Hebdo shooting as a “white power march” and Je suis Charlie as an “arrogant rallying cry for white supremacy” because he believed that they ignored victims of violence in other non-Western countries.[13]

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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:16:21pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

The most benevolent explanation I can find for Stein’s behavior is that she merely hates America.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:17:58pm

re: #105 Nyet

Never underestimate the power of the ego.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:18:00pm

re: #103 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This is why I don’t understand the people willing to give him a pass nowadays. Sure, he may have been less stupid than Dubya or ¡HEB! but he was even more of a weasel.

I can’t see how anyone forgives H.W. for Iran-Contra and the Weinberger pardon.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:18:11pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

I can’t think of a better metaphor for the end of the Olympic amateur ideal.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:19:27pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

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There is such a weird intersection of far lefty like Baraka and far right like my state senator and former Ted Cruz co-state chairman Dick Black love for Assad.

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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:19:35pm

You know those stupid wingnut stereotypes about liberals hating Murika etc.? Well, Stein and her followers are those walking, talking, breathing stereotypes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:19:54pm

re: #104 Nyet

He seems nice. (Lock him up in an insane asylum and throw away the key.)

In otherwords, he’s a wingnut’s idea of what an average liberal is.

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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:20:52pm

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:22:08pm
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freetoken  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:23:43pm

A forced issue for the sake of the American political theatre:

Olympics’ climate change message sparks conservative backlash

Yes, The Hill is using Ben Shapiro tweets as some sign that there is something really important going on here.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:25:28pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

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For his sake, I hope Salvatore never has to write an emergency letter to his neighbors pleading for kindling on the coldest night of the year. He’d freeze to death before anyone figured out what a fagot is.

And that would be a terrible thing. A very very terrible thing.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:25:50pm

re: #112 BigPapa

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Remember when we thought “binders full of women” or glossing over having a car lift in your mansion were the worst the GOP would have to deal with?

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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:26:23pm

I think a fagot is some type of pastry, allegedly delicious. Not sure if sweet or savory, or non-GMO.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:29:03pm
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Split Ticket  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:29:12pm

re: #115 De Kolta Chair

re: #117 BigPapa

Here is what the Free Dictionary says: thefreedictionary.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:29:17pm

re: #117 BigPapa

I think a fagot is some type of pastry, allegedly delicious. Not sure if sweet or savory, or non-GMO.

Meatball

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:29:24pm

re: #117 BigPapa

I think a fagot is some type of pastry, allegedly delicious. Not sure if sweet or savory, or non-GMO.

I was going to say he might’ve meant ragout, but he’s more a Ragu kind of schmuck.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:29:26pm

Villagers with torches.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:29:48pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:32:46pm

re: #115 De Kolta Chair

For his sake, I hope Salvatore never has to write an emergency letter to his neighbors pleading for kindling on the coldest night of the year. He’d freeze to death before anyone figured out what a fagot is.

And that would be a terrible thing. A very very terrible thing.

Yes, people, let’s not sink to their level. Let’s freeze him to death—With Votes!

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No Depression  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:33:02pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

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AL ASSAD GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE! WHAT THE FUCK!

…Sorry, this shit is so stupid and borderline evil that it seriously pisses me off.

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Split Ticket  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:37:48pm

Dang. Severe weather is headed to Philly. forecast.weather.gov

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:39:20pm

re: #125 No Depression

AL ASSAD GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE! WHAT THE FUCK!

…Sorry, this shit is so stupid and borderline evil that it seriously pisses me off.

No need to apologize about that at all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:39:47pm

re: #123 jaunte

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And what a job Dave Brat is doing in the House, said no one ever.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:40:11pm

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Split Ticket  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:41:15pm

re: #129 De Kolta Chair

lol

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:41:44pm

re: #130 Split Ticket

lol

Had to be Catholics. Protestants generally don’t joke about that sort of thing.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:42:03pm

re: #125 No Depression

AL ASSAD GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE! WHAT THE FUCK!

…Sorry, this shit is so stupid and borderline evil that it seriously pisses me off.

Well, you know, he was just protecting his legitimately elected government from foreign imperial intervention… Or something.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:44:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:44:30pm

re: #52 Lidane

Wilson’s Twitter TL is amusing in this election cycle. He’s #NeverTrump and hasn’t been shy about it. The far right and the Trumpkins hate him, which he seems to consider a sport. Hah.

I’m really enjoying the responses to SMOTI’s tweet.

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Split Ticket  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:46:07pm

re: #133 jaunte

What is she smoking? And remind me to stay away from it.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:46:36pm

re: #133 jaunte

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And what’s Jill’s opinion on Assange being an alleged rapist? Would not surprised to hear she’s one of those who thinks that the charges were falsified by some shadowy cabal intent on “silencing” Assange.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:47:18pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

Somewhere in a mountain fast, the pope of Scientology, David Miscavige, is looking at that and ordering 20 million “Hubbard/Cruise 2020” posters from the printers.

“If it can work for her, why not…”

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:49:56pm

BBL Linguine night!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:50:44pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:53:23pm

I’ve known this conspiracy theorist on another board for roughly 4 years now. You name an Alex Jones fever dream, he either believes in it or believes that there’s some truth to it. He thinks the US organized the Ukrainian coup, he’s convinced ISIS is a CIA op, he thinks mass shootings are false flag operations, and he’s convinced that Assange is a hero.

So you can imagine my surprise when he came out recently as a Jill Stein supporter.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:56:00pm

Interesting article on how regulatory agencies applied the lessons learned in various high profile commercial crashes.

10 Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation

In the flying world, this is known as tombstone regulation. It seems that almost every FAA reg, policy, or requirement has some kind of tragic story behind it, with many well documented and widely understood hazards left un-addressed until they killed someone, a lot of someones in many cases.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2016 • 3:57:43pm

I still can’t get over that The Hill thinks a few Ben Shapiro tweets make for a news story.

The Hill has always been sympathetic to Republicans, but I wonder if they too are reading tea leaves and discovering that the Drumpfskind disaster could hurt their business too.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:01:09pm
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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:02:26pm
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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:03:25pm

Cultural Marxism. Drink!

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:08:22pm

re: #144 jaunte

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No Depression  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:09:08pm

re: #133 jaunte

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I’m sure the people he’s raped and doxxed might have something to say about that…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:18:45pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:20:03pm

re: #122 jaunte

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Villagers with torches.

The tea party eats it’s own.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:21:22pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:25:47pm

Happy Birther Day.

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gocart mozart  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:26:28pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:26:44pm
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Split Ticket  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:27:38pm

re: #151 gocart mozart

Oy Vey. Are we beating that dead horse again?

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teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:29:52pm

It’s quite amazing how many of The Donald’s™ tweets have the word “dummy” in them.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:32:00pm

re: #141 Shiplord Kirel

Interesting article on how regulatory agencies applied the lessons learned in various high profile commercial crashes.

10 Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation

In the flying world, this is known as tombstone regulation. It seems that almost every FAA reg, policy, or requirement has some kind of tragic story behind it, with many well documented and widely understood hazards left un-addressed until they killed someone, a lot of someones in many cases.

Extremely interesting read.

I just flew Alaska & I love to read their mags, just to see what they are pushing. The main article was about a Captain who installed iPads for the Alaska crew. Until then all captians were required to lug around all the paper documentation on the plane etc. Yeah, find me page 528 stat.

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teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:32:19pm

re: #155 teleskiguy

You think I’m kidding? See for yourself.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:33:35pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:34:20pm

re: #158 Kragar

Uh ….

Fuckit. Never mind.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:34:47pm
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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:35:40pm
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No Depression  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:39:59pm

Floor drama at the Green National Convention:

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:41:05pm

re: #162 No Depression

RIGGED!

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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:42:06pm

re: #162 No Depression

Love watching moonbats consume each other.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:42:42pm

re: #161 BigPapa

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I posted it 36 retweets before you (#118), but I always upding repostings as a great-minds-think-alike thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:43:52pm
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Nyet  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:43:59pm

Curry probably has even scarier views than Stein though.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:44:34pm

re: #167 Nyet

Curry probably has even scarier views than Stein though.

Probably. Shiver to think what those are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:44:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:45:31pm

re: #162 No Depression

Floor drama at the Green National Convention:

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I’m enjoying them eat each other up because they’re so smugly convinced they’re the only true left of center political party in this country.

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No Depression  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:48:23pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

I’m enjoying them eat each other up because they’re so smugly convinced they’re the only true left of center political party in this country.

I know right. They tried to fuck shit up at the DNC, but the only convention they’ve successfully derailed is the one for the moonbat party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:50:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:51:28pm

re: #171 No Depression

I know right. They tried to fuck shit up at the DNC, but the only convention they’ve successfully derailed is the one for the moonbat party.

Exactly. So it’s schenfraude to see them having their own problems.

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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:52:05pm

I really didn’t know how wacky the left was until this run. Wowzers.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:52:23pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hot air and hotheads in more ways than one!

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:52:48pm

re: #83 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

we need a ranking of 2016 presidential candidates based on the diagnostic and statistical manual

Do we ever!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:53:15pm

re: #174 BigPapa

I really didn’t know wacky the left was until this run. Wowzers.

I’m not surprised unfortunately. The center left is great but the left and far left have a lot of problems.

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Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:54:48pm

So, will he bring up the baby again? The Khans? Japan? Russia? How unfairly he’s been treated?

I can hardly wait.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:54:57pm

re: #162 No Depression

Floor drama at the Green National Convention:

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A Green party candidate being accused of being privileged and handed the nomination through a rigged system.

In other news, The Onion just declared bankruptcy.

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:55:15pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

I’m not surprised unfortunately. The center left is great but the left and far left have a lot of problems.

The further from center you are, the more pure you have to be. The balance is sticking to your principles and yet get things done. Beyond that, you’ve gone too far.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:55:24pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:55:37pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

A Green party candidate being accused of being privileged and handed the nomination through a rigged system.

In other news, The Onion just declared bankruptcy.

That has to be the tenth time this year. I don’t think they’re going to make it to 2017.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:55:42pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:55:49pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

I’m not surprised unfortunately. The center left is great but the left and far left have a lot of problems.

They are in a dream world.

I call myself a radical liberal. Only compared to the RWNJ’s and my neighbors I guess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:55:59pm

at Trump’s NH rally:

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:56:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:56:11pm

re: #183 Lidane

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Maybe it’s because you’re a loon, Jill.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:56:38pm

re: #186 Jenner7

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By Trump, do they mean cry like a toddler?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:57:00pm

re: #181 Kragar

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She makes one comment. ONE. They pounce, thinking it was…..something.

They have nothing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:57:06pm

re: #184 Stanley Sea

They are in a dream world.

I call my self a radical liberal. Only compared to the RWNJ’s and my neighbors I guess.

I definitely am too.

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No Depression  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:57:17pm

re: #167 Nyet

Curry probably has even scarier views than Stein though.

I looked at her Facebook page and haven’t seen anything too bad in terms of her views. She mostly talks about police shootings of black people. The only things that made me raise my eyebrow was a meme that said “When you thought your friends were radical and they hit you with “Do you want Trump to win?”” and a video of a couple of Black Marxists tabling for their cause at some event.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:57:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:57:35pm

re: #181 Kragar

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Newt, you support Trump nuff said.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:58:32pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

A Green party candidate being accused of being privileged and handed the nomination through a rigged system.

In other news, The Onion just declared bankruptcy.

It’s karma for Jill.

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wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:58:46pm

She’s looking my way. I better head home.

Later, lizards.

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:58:54pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

A Green party candidate being accused of being privileged and handed the nomination through a rigged system.

In other news, The Onion just declared bankruptcy.

The Onion is about to slip through a crack in the universe and we’ll never know it existed. Why would it exist? It’s not like we need anything outrageous made up.

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Lidane  Aug 6, 2016 • 4:59:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:00:20pm

re: #180 Belafon

The further from center you are, the more pure you have to be. The balance is sticking to your principles and yet get things done. Beyond that, you’ve gone too far.

There’s always the next extreme. Someone out there thinks Stein is too conservative and establishment. You’re right. What’s important is keeping principle but getting shit done.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:01:01pm

re: #197 Lidane

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They’re snobs not to mention idiots.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:01:55pm

This inquiring mind wants to know

So, Split Ticket, what’s with the name change, hmmmm?
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:02:26pm

re: #183 Lidane

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:03:01pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is that what they call it these days?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:03:08pm

The far left is all about grudges and purity tests rather than working for the future. Stein would rather tell you how HRC can’t be trusted on lgbt rights since she wasn’t always pro gay marriage than talk about how we have to expand civil rights protections.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:03:42pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:03:54pm

re: #200 De Kolta Chair

This inquiring mind wants to know

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I just realized it was Philly!

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:04:04pm

re: #197 Lidane

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The people who for decades thought that “Real ‘Murica” consisted of the red states alone and blue states were socialist enclaves that could be ignored now are pissed that red states are becoming increasingly irrelevant as former red strongholds go purple.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:04:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:05:38pm

re: #206 Targetpractice

The people who for decades thought that “Real ‘Murica” consisted of the red states alone and blue states were socialist enclaves that could be ignored now are pissed that red states are becoming increasingly irrelevant as former red strongholds go purple.

The far left are the people who tell you with a straight face better a Republican than moderate Democrat. They have no idea about actual governing.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:05:53pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jesus Christ on whole wheat toast, that’s the funniest thing I have ever read!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:05:58pm

re: #207 Stanley Sea

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You’re right Bernie.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:08:00pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

The far left is all about grudges and purity tests rather than working for the future. Stein would rather tell you how HRC can’t be trusted on lgbt rights since she wasn’t always pro gay marriage than talk about how we have to expand civil rights protections.

Since most Bros you’ll meet are old white guys, it’s no surprise that they’re primarily motivated by past grievances. For all their talk about how the future of the Green party lives in young voters, the party seems totally motivated by shit that happened decades ago.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:09:26pm

re: #211 Targetpractice

Since most Bros you’ll meet are old white guys, it’s no surprise that they’re primarily motivated by past grievances. For all their talk about how the future of the Green party lives in young voters, the party seems totally motivated by shit that happened decades ago.

Good point. There’s just no real desire to work to improve the future but as said air out grievances from the past.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:09:40pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:11:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:14:22pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We need someone to track all the venues he hasn’t paid. This will be #45 most likely.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:15:34pm

re: #213 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim.

Good evening. Tally ho and all that tommy rot!

;-)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:18:21pm

ok, then…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:18:25pm

re: #216 De Kolta Chair

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;-)

What, what!

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:25:12pm

I am getting really tired of the video and online media desperately trying to make this election a horse race, complete with numerous visits of the MBF.

No matter how flawed Hillary may be, there is no comparison with Drumpfsking, by any serious measure of politics and policy.

So instead of covering the real story - that the Republican party after years of culturing an anti-intellectual and atavistic base finds itself in crisis - we get instead stories about whether Hillary has any black friends.

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retired cynic  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:25:59pm

re: #143 Lidane

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Pete Fountain! My man! (Majored in clarinet, partly because I loved his sound. And I’m old; he must have been just a kid when I first heard him.) Bless his soul.

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sagehen  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:27:01pm

re: #139 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Dylann Roof’s jailhouse assailant released after posting $100,000 bond

“Cannon said Roof did not provoke the attack, that it was by surprise. He also could not shed any light on Stafford’s motivation.”

Judging by Stafford’s photo in the article… I bet I can shed light on his motivation.

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stpaulbear  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:27:05pm

re: #219 freetoken

I am getting really tired of the video and online media desperately trying to make this election a horse race, complete with numerous visits of the MBF.

No matter how flawed Hillary may be, there is no comparison with Drumpfsking, by any serious measure of politics and policy.

So instead of covering the real story - that the Republican party after years of culturing an anti-intellectual and atavistic base finds itself in crisis - we get instead stories about whether Hillary has any black friends.

But Hillary has made MISTAKES!!

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:28:35pm

re: #218 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s the wonderful character actor Roger Livesey as the title character in Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger’s classic British 1943 film The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, which simultaneously satirized and upheld the values of the British Empire (and featured a young Glaswegian actress named Deborah Kerr, who steals every scene she’s in). Powell and Pressburger are probably best known for their masterpiece The Red Shoes.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:31:22pm

Watch!

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Joe Bacon  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:31:24pm

re: #223 De Kolta Chair

That’s the wonderful character actor Roger Livesey as the title character in Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger’s classic British 1943 film The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, which simultaneously satirized and upheld the values of the British Empire values. Powell and Pressburger are probably best known for their masterpiece The Red Shoes.

My favorite Powell and Pressburger film is Tales Of Hoffman, just so beautiful!

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:32:46pm

Live view of the ocean … incase you get tired of watching idiotic “news” programs:

Camera 2: Okeanos Explorer: Deepwater Wonders of Wake

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:33:43pm

re: #224 Stanley Sea

Watch!

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My spousal unit is watching that on the couch at this very moment

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:34:45pm

re: #225 Joe Bacon

My favorite Powell and Pressburger film is Tales Of Hoffman, just so beautiful!

That’s my fave as well. Just a brilliant film. The Archers made so many great movies they made it look easy.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:34:45pm

By the way, Wikileaks is not trying to hack Donald Trump’s tax returns.

Assange being the asshole that he is, he just boasted to Bill Maher with no basis in fact.

And Wikileaks doesn’t want to get the reputation of being “hackers.” They avoid responsibility for the shit they do by letting random chumps do the hacking for them.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:37:49pm

This is significant because it means HFA is pressing their advantage, intent on forcing Trump to spend money defending deep inside traditional Republican territory.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:38:26pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

By the way, Wikileaks is not trying to hack Donald Trump’s tax returns.

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Assange being the asshole that he is, he just boasted to Bill Maher with no basis in fact.

And Wikileaks doesn’t want to get the reputation of being “hackers.” They avoid responsibility for the shit they do by letting random chumps do the hacking for them.

They farm out the work, then reap the rewards while claiming they can’t give credit to the original hacker for their “safety.”

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scottslemmons  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:40:18pm
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stpaulbear  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:43:12pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

By the way, Wikileaks is not trying to hack Donald Trump’s tax returns.

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Assange being the asshole that he is, he just boasted to Bill Maher with no basis in fact.

And Wikileaks doesn’t want to get the reputation of being “hackers.” They avoid responsibility for the shit they do by letting other people do the hacking.

Is there a point where Ecuador can just give him the boot from the embassy for all the shit he’s doing? Can they take away his access to media?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:46:00pm
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:46:11pm

re: #226 freetoken

Live view of the ocean … incase you get tired of watching idiotic “news” programs:

Cool, thanks. I’m one of those people who are so in awe of the majesty of the sea that I much prefer to watch people frolicking on the beach while remaining comfortably ensconced in my bungalow doing the Sunday Times crossword.

In other words, the ocean gives me major heebie jeebies.

I do believe I’m transforming into Nero Wolfe.. Beer me, Fritz! ;-)

(Any other Rex Stout fans about? He not only authored great detective fiction, but also co-founded the ACLU.)

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:47:50pm

re: #141 Shiplord Kirel

Re: “seems”, I’d say it’s certain that aviation regs are much like ordnance handling rules, in that they are “written in blood”. I read Mary Schiavo’s “Flying Blind, Flying Safe” years ago and I haven’t looked at commercial flying the same way since. One of her points was that somewhere in the industry there is a dollar cost on an individual human life, against which the cost of known issues is measured. Meaning, the occasional crater with 50-100 killed in it, is cheaper in the long run than a fleet-wide fix for a real problem.

That book is a great illustration of the fucked-up relationship between capitalism and regulation this country enjoys.

I drive almost daily through the spot where Delta 191 crashed. The access road around DFW airport is part of my commute, and also a pleasure ride for me when I’m out on the motorcycle and looking to kill a little time (I like to ride over to the observation plaza & watch the planes). I was a little shocked to realize that this famous crash which led to the study of wind shear, which I had seen documentaries about on TV when I was a kid, happened just yards from the gas station where I fill up my bike before I go on a long ride.

There are still dents on the water tank where the pieces of the jet came to rest. My ex-girlfriend remembers the day of that crash, because she saw the storm that helped bring the plane down. She said it was just huge, and dark, and looked really bad even from a distance, enough that it gave her a bad feeling. I don’t know what compelled the pilots to fly through that crap anyway.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:49:22pm

“She short circuited in the brain.” -Trump just said about Hillary

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:49:37pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s building a wall around NH?

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:49:42pm

re: #233 stpaulbear

Is there a point where Ecuador can just give him the boot from the embassy for all the shit he’s doing? Can they take away his access to media?

Assange is essentially a prisoner, since the office flat embassy is sovereign Ecuadorian territory. He can be deported (booted out the door) any time the Ecuadorians decide to do so. The only real right Assange has is to contact British authorities to spring him if he is being held against his will, something they will be delghted to do.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:50:05pm

re: #238 Targetpractice

He’s building a wall around NH?

Gotta keep Ben and Jerry and Bernie out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:50:22pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:51:14pm


re: #238 Targetpractice

He’s building a wall around NH?

Along NH’s border with Mexico. It’ll keep the Mexican Air Force from attacking, like they did at his last NH rally.

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:51:16pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

“NH” does stand for “New Heroin”, right?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:51:48pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And this will be spread as the absolute truth by the likes of SMOTI.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:52:40pm

re: #242 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I dunno how that tweet got in there—but it’s funny anyway.

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Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:52:43pm

Good evening.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:54:23pm

Lots of people screaming things about Hillary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:54:46pm
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b.d.  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:55:12pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A few years from now when Obama is lounging at one of his many palatial estates he’ll be smiling and saying: “I knew I could get away with everything and have them blame Hillary for it”.

//

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:56:47pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh yeah? Prove it Dumbass.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:58:10pm

It was “get em outta there” to “give them a hand..”

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makeitstop  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:59:25pm

re: #237 Jenner7

“She short circuited in the brain.” -Trump just said about Hillary

I’m seriously hoping that there aren’t any protesters there tonight.

Someone could get hurt.

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b.d.  Aug 6, 2016 • 5:59:33pm

re: #251 Jenner7

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It was “get em outta there” to “give them a hand..”

Remember the right wing headlines when folks used to faint at Obama rallies?

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:00:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:01:53pm

now complaining about how hot it is in the high school gym…

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:03:02pm

Again, citing two military planes that went down because they are old.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:03:05pm

re: #207 Stanley Sea

Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
We have virtually no voter fraud in America. What is the fraud is that people are changing laws because of so-called voter fraud.
2:18 PM - 6 Aug 2016
2,979 2,979 Retweets 6,499 6,499 likes

It appear Bernie has settled back down to earth.

Welcome back Bernie…we need you.

And, you can bring your sane followers too. But leave the nuts behind…they aren’t good for much.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:03:09pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

now complaining about how hot it is in the high school gym…

He’s not going to pay that venue.

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:04:09pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:05:02pm

yeah

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:05:11pm

Irony detectors across the galaxy just imploded all at once.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:05:16pm

“I’m the last person to use nuclear…”.

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Jenner7  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:05:54pm

Al’s there. The one who called for Hillary to be shot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:06:34pm

re: #263 Jenner7

Al’s there. The one who called for Hillary to be shot.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:06:52pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

Compared to Trump, Tony Blair appears sensible. Now there’s a frightening thought.

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:07:31pm

re: #260 Stanley Sea

yeah

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Either way you read that statement is true.

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b.d.  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:08:25pm

re: #260 Stanley Sea

yeah

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So Trump would let someone nuke the USA before he nuked them?

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:08:27pm

re: #260 Stanley Sea

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:09:09pm

re: #262 Jenner7

SPROING! Those irony meters just don’t last!

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:09:46pm

re: #256 Jenner7

Again, citing two military planes that went down because they are old.

At least three operational F-22s have crashed. So apparently Trump thinks anything older than off the showroom floor is a flying death trap.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:10:06pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #268 Kragar

“I’ll be the last one to use nuclear…Believe me, I would be the last one.”

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Bomb couldn’t have put it better.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:10:24pm

re: #268 Kragar

“That’s more true than you know, Mr. Trump.”

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:10:38pm
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freetoken  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:11:35pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

Note that the beauty queen links to IJR. While “J” nominally stands for “journalism”, in truth IJR is just another right-wing site pretending to be a news outlet.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:13:18pm

re: #237 Jenner7

“She short circuited in the brain.” -Trump just said about Hillary

So Trump and fools like Newton Gingrich are going to try to make this comment from Hillary a thing:

“That’s really the bottom line here and I have said, during the interview and in many other occasions over the past months, that what I told the FBI, which he said was truthful, is consistent with what I have said publicly,” Clinton told reporters.

“So I may have short-circuited it and for that, I will, you know, try to clarify,” she added.

It really shows they have nothing left to campaign on, all Trump stuff he has used so far is basically done and gone and they are reaching for anything.

Three months to go and the Trump campaign is running on fumes. Sad. So low energy.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:19:27pm

I know about Windham NH because my older daughter lives just a few miles away across the Massachusetts line. It is basically an up-market Boston metro suburb and has a lot of very recent construction. Median household income is over 100k and the poverty rate is 0. Demographically it is 95 percent white and just .4 percent African American (56 black people in a population of 14,000). A stereotyped small New England town it ain’t. In fact it has more in common with certain Texas suburban communities.

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Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2016 • 6:55:46pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 6, 2016 • 8:15:15pm

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge


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