The Trump Fan Who Tweeted Forged Clinton Medical Records Is Back on Twitter

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Yes, this creep is back again, after deleting his/her account yesterday; if you delete your Twitter account you have a short interval in which you can still restore it.

Tonight this anonymous right wing agitator has posted an out of focus image we’re supposed to think is an X-ray or MRI or CT scan of Hillary’s head.

I’ve seen a lot of political dirty tricks in my time, but this has to be simultaneously one of the ugliest and one of the most inept.

It’s very revealing to take a look at this person’s following list — you’ll find an assortment of white supremacists and “alt-right” lunatics with “Pepe the frog” avatars, Martin Shkreli, and all the people associated with Donald Trump. Better look soon, though — I have a feeling this account isn’t going to be available for much longer.

UPDATE at 8/9/16 9:42:36 pm by Charles Johnson

Sure enough, @HillsMedRecords has been deleted again.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:42:30pm

I wonder…what are the odds CCJ is behind this?

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:43:09pm

Who are all the wingnuts commenting favourably on the Twitter post?

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:44:23pm

This scumbag’s third follow is our own Timothy Watson. Just so he knows.

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makeitstop  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:47:24pm

Incidentally, that WaPo editorial by Squint is a pile of crap.

Way too little, way too late. And we will not forget the epic ass-kissing of Trump that took place every single morning on MSNBC.

‘No hard questions, Mika.’ Remember that.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:47:27pm

One of the people followed by this creep: twitter.com

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KGxvi  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:50:50pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder…what are the odds CCJ is behind this?

If I were running a bookmaker, I’d go with -1200.

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:54:33pm

Fuck me. This is one hell of an opener.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:59:11pm

Oh brother. Here we go again with people who have no idea what “free speech” means.

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stpaulbear  Aug 9, 2016 • 8:59:33pm

re: #7 darthstar

Fuck me. This is one hell of an opener.

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Watching that is making me dizzy. Wow.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:00:00pm

The Donald™ and Sarah Palin are expert political prognosticators. Especially The Thrilla From Wasilla.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:02:37pm

re: #7 darthstar

And I’m like: I’d break my neck there and there and there…

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worldknot  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:02:54pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

A humiliating result for everyone concerned.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:03:00pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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stpaulbear  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:04:21pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

The Donald™ and Sarah Palin are expert political prognosticators. Especially The Thrilla From Wasilla.

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I’m kind of glad to see that Betty McCollum won her primary against a fake democrat with 95% of the vote. I had been nervous that low turnout (it was super low) was going to let the fake weasel his way in, but it looks like a lot of Betty supporters got nervous the same way and showed up. No way that an R will win her district in the general election.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:04:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:05:14pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Oh brother. Here we go again with people who have no idea what “free speech” means.

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Oh good, I can create a forged court document that says Donald was arrested for necrophila and claim free peach.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:05:54pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

The Donald™ and Sarah Palin are expert political prognosticators. Especially The Thrilla From Wasilla.

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No surprise there.

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Jenner7  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:10:46pm
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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:14:47pm

re: #7 darthstar

I’ll see your Aly and raise you a Simone. Check out the 1:34 mark. How does she do that? She does it on the beam too. I can’t get up off the floor gracefully anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:15:03pm

re: #18 Jenner7

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This is what the face of derangement is. It should not be choosing our next president.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:15:27pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:18:30pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:21:07pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Not bad for a “Lesser Charles Johnson”.

:p

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BigPapa  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:26:21pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

I never imagined myself rooting for Paul Ryan.

Go Paul!

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darthstar  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:26:22pm

Me: Hey, that swimmer uses clear goggles just like I do…but he doesn’t have my physique.
She: No…he doesn’t.
Me: He could, with proper training and diet.
She: I think it’s time to go to bed.

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jaunte  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:26:44pm
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Joe Bacon  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:31:45pm

I call bullshit on that phony plate.

It’s always the last name, first, middle.

Makes me wonder if the SGMOTI decided to make it and add an orbital blowout as well!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:36:24pm

Looks like he shut the page down again.

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mr.fusion  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:40:43pm

How long before Trump retweets this or brings it up at a rally?

“A lot of people are saying online…….”

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:41:15pm

re: #29 mr.fusion

How long before Trump retweets this or brings it up at a rally?

“A lot of people are saying online…….”

Tomorrow or the next day.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:43:32pm

Yep, @HillsMedRecords has been deleted again.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:44:05pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:47:17pm

Ha!

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Lidane  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:49:46pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:53:44pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:55:27pm

re: #7 darthstar

Fuck me. This is one hell of an opener.

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I’ll have to take your word for it; the video won’t play on my computer. I would have liked to have seen it.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:56:02pm

I didn’t know Shannon Doherty had breast cancer. They think it spread to her lymph nodes. So sad. 45 yo.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:57:47pm

re: #36 Anymouse

I’ll have to take your word for it; the video won’t play on my computer. I would have liked to have seen it.

What browser are you on? I have to use Chrome, Edge or remove all blockers from Firefox. My primary browser (Pale Moon) won’t play them no matter what I do. I think Brave and Opera work, too.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 9, 2016 • 9:59:41pm

re: #34 Lidane

Screw Friedman. Him and his crony David Brooks are responsible for Republican both-sides bullshit.

Think of this: They get up in arms about some journalist getting shot somewhere (like Russia), but they will never be a victim of anyone’s stochastic terrorism.

The day it happens, they’ll say anything and everything from the sidelines except the truth. Gabby Gifford’s shooting proved that.

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Kragar  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:01:16pm
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Kragar  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:02:16pm
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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:02:39pm
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Lidane  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:04:14pm

ICYMI:

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:05:03pm

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

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Kragar  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:06:02pm

re: #44 MsJ

Not much. I forced myself to read the first two books and gave up part way thru the third

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:06:20pm

re: #44 MsJ

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

It starts slowly. Give it time.

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Lidane  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:06:56pm

re: #39 Sherlock Hound

I was forced to read Friedman in undergrad because one of my profs was a fan. I think he’s an incompetent tool. That said, he’s having a stopped clock moment for the first time in his career.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:07:09pm

re: #46 A wild WITHAK appeared!

It starts slowly. Give it time.

Ok. It’s only episode 2 now.

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Lidane  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:08:05pm

re: #44 MsJ

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

It takes a bit, but once it gets going it’s awesome.

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TedStriker  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:08:52pm

re: #43 Lidane

ICYMI:

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They should have ‘shopped Donald’s face like Heath Ledger’s Joker and gave it the tagline of “Why so serious?”, because that’s what it’s really boiling down to, the whole “some men just want to watch the world burn” thing.

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:09:42pm

re: #38 MsJ

What browser are you on? I have to use Chrome, Edge or remove all blockers from Firefox. My primary browser (Pale Moon) won’t play them no matter what I do. I think Brave and Opera work, too.

I am using Firefox with no blockers. I can try it in Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge and see if either of those work.

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MsJ  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:11:26pm

re: #51 Anymouse

I am using Firefox with no blockers. I can try it in Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge and see if either of those work.

Another thing you can try is to go straight to the tweet and watch it there.

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Kragar  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:11:51pm
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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:15:13pm

re: #52 MsJ

Another thing you can try is to go straight to the tweet and watch it there.

Did that. Wow!

If I tried that they wouldn’t be able to count all my broken body parts.

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freetoken  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:15:32pm

re: #44 MsJ

I only got part way through the first episode then gave up.

They lost me at the midget sex.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:16:56pm

re: #55 freetoken

I only got part way through the first episode then gave up.

They lost me at the midget sex.

…the what?

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TedStriker  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:17:45pm

re: #55 freetoken

I only got part way through the first episode then gave up.

They lost me at the midget sex.

Hey, even little people gotta get some too…

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:18:57pm

re: #55 freetoken

I only got part way through the first episode then gave up.

They lost me at the midget sex.

I am so glad we don’t have cable service where I live.

While I was in Canada over the last month, I watched important stuff like the weather and the Democratic Convention.

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William Lewis  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:22:57pm

re: #44 MsJ

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

Nothing. It only gets worse from there on.

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:24:22pm

Wonkette takes on Donald Trump’s … ah … inartful statement (?) about Hillary Clinton.

There is some serious snark and rage in over 2,200 comments.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:32:06pm

re: #44 MsJ

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

There are scenes of relentless bloody death and lesbianism.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:32:21pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:33:53pm

re: #44 MsJ

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

Everything isn’t for everyone.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:37:08pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

GAWD this guy is clueless. It’s liberals like “Roy” who end up losing elections for Democrats.

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:42:03pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

In the end, we need “Roy” on our side, voting for Hillary Clinton in November.

My (crude) olive branch:

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:48:10pm

I’ve been immersing myself in Frank Zappa’s synclavier stuff. I think this is some kind of composition, jarring yet beautiful.

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:48:12pm

The Washington Post ditches the horse race narrative:

Three months from now, with the 2016 presidential election in the rearview mirror, we will look back and agree that the presidential election was over on Aug. 9th.

Of course, it is politically incorrect to say that the die is cast.

Journalistic neutrality allegedly forces us to say that the race isn’t over until November, and most media organizations prefer to hype the presidential contest to generate viewers and readers rather than explain why a photo finish is unlikely.

But a dispassionate examination of the data, combined with a coldblooded look at the candidates, the campaigns and presidential elections, produces only one possible conclusion: Hillary Clinton will defeat Donald Trump in November, and the margin isn’t likely to be as close as Barack Obama’s victory over Mitt Romney.

The article continues at the newspaper: Donald Trump Needs a Miracle to Win

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:55:57pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 10:56:37pm

One of the reasons why I love LGF is the palatable love of Frank Zappa. I’ve been reading LGF for over a decade now and that’s one thing that keeps me coming back. Folks around here love FZ. And that’s a good thing! Makes me feel like I’m not alone, I belong. Great community!

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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:09:20pm
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William Lewis  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:10:53pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Frank Who?

< Grinning, ducking & running >

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:17:31pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

One of the reasons why I love LGF is the palatable love of Frank Zappa. I’ve been reading LGF for over a decade now and that’s one thing that keeps me coming back. Folks around here love FZ. And that’s a good thing! Makes me feel like I’m not alone, I belong. Great community!

There is Frank Zappa’s interpretation of the music of little-known Baroque composer Francesco Zappa (yes, he was a real person that wrote real music, unlike PDQ Bach).

I have this album on an LP (geez I am old)

Frank Zappa - Francesco Zappa (1984) Full Album

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Archangelus  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:24:34pm

re: #44 MsJ

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

A: Patience.

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:24:39pm

Nate Silver now puts Hillary Clinton at a probable 269 safe electoral votes (with 270 needed to win).

fivethirtyeight.com

That would mean she can win with any one swing state.

On the other hand, Nebraska gave up one electoral vote for President Obama in 2012; I would love to see one vote from here going to Clinton to put her at the magic number. (NE-2 - Omaha - went for Mr. Obama in the last election. If NE-1 - Lincoln - also went for Mrs. Clinton, she would get four of our five votes. Unfortunately my district still supports Mr. Trump, but that support is wavering. On the other hand, I drive all over the Panhandle with Gold Star Family plates on my car, and since we came back from Canada I have been quick to point out Mr. Trump’s remarks about a Gold Star Family and veterans.)

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Kragar  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:28:33pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:37:02pm

re: #72 Anymouse

There is Frank Zappa’s interpretation of the music of little-known Baroque composer Francesco Zappa (yes, he was a real person that wrote real music, unlike PDQ Bach).

I have this album on an LP (geez I am old)

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Speaking of old guys who’ve still got it—I’m watching this at the moment:

Think Fast In CIncinnati - Steely Dan

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:43:03pm

re: #76 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Speaking of old guys who’ve still got it—I’m watching this at the moment: (Steely Dan Video)

My all-time favourite music is Yes - I first heard the song “Roundabout” when my mother took me to Abrams Planetarium at Michigan State University to see an interesting rendition of Isaac Asimov’s short story “The Last Question.” Turned out though the planetarium rendition of the story was very good, I liked Yes better (must be because I am a progressive).

I don’t know how many LP’s of “Fragile” I played to death. I have been to several concerts (Kansas City, Madrid, Miami)

Yes - Roundabout (Yes’s “Roundabout,” 8:36)

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Archangelus  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:51:12pm

Article about Trump’s 2nd amendment speech went up in the Hebrew version of YNET news and caught me a bit by surprise just now. Not because of the article itself, but because the talkbackers - mostly Democrat-bashing Israeli right-wingers and some centrists - are now vehemently AGAINST Trump, with dozens and even hundred of upvotes for the anti-Trump comments - which are the only comments.

This is actually quite telling, when you take into consideration that just a month ago, nearly every comment in Trump-related YNET articles supported him in a big way - despite the ego, despite the flip-flopping when it came to Israel, despite everything, even his antisemitic followers. Now the consensus is that he’s insane and dangerous and can’t be supported , even if it means a Hillary victory (and she is NOT popular among many here).

Quite the descent.

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Anymouse  Aug 9, 2016 • 11:55:22pm

re: #78 Archangelus

Trump’s remark is international news:

bbc.com (United Kingdom)

dw.com (Germany)

cbc.ca (Canada)

The rest of the world must think we are lunatics.

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MsJ  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:10:59am

re: #79 Anymouse

Trump’s remark is international news:

bbc.com (United Kingdom)

dw.com (Germany)

cbc.ca (Canada)

The rest of the world must think we are lunatics.

We are. I watch Canadian news and I’m fucking embarrassed to be American right now. Moreso then when I was in Europe during Bush the Younger’s rule. Talk about the side eye. Thankfully it didn’t happen often.

I’ll have to bring out the patented I DID NOT VOTE FOR THAT MAN thing again. Fucking Trump.

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Scout  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:12:05am

re: #79 Anymouse

Trump’s remark is international news:

bbc.com (United Kingdom)

dw.com (Germany)

cbc.ca (Canada)

The rest of the world must think we are lunatics.

Personally, I wouldn’t be able to argue with them at this point.

I work in an office with Japanese, Australians, English, Scots, Canadians, New Zealanders and Filipinos. Today it is hard for me to even look anyone in the eye.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:25:48am
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Anymouse  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:27:20am

re: #80 MsJ

We are. I watch Canadian news and I’m fucking embarrassed to be American right now. Moreso then when I was in Europe during Bush the Younger’s rule. Talk about the side eye. Thankfully it didn’t happen often.

I’ll have to bring out the patented I DID NOT VOTE FOR THAT MAN thing again. Fucking Trump.

I just got back from Canada, and I can’t count the number of questions I fielded about Mr. Trump.

I mentioned to my wife I am going to put our remaining money (CAN$100 and CAN$10) in a case with our passports and a hammer next to it “In Case of Political Emergency, Break Glass”)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:48:11am

re: #44 MsJ

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

I also gave up after first two episodes. No interest in watching any more of it. Daughter has read books, perhaps I will try one of those some day when I am ill and need something to read in bed…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:51:03am

re: #77 Anymouse

My all-time favourite music is Yes - I first heard the song “Roundabout” when my mother took me to Abrams Planetarium at Michigan State University to see an interesting rendition of Isaac Asimov’s short story “The Last Question.”

Also one of the first LPs I bought when I got my first stereo in my Freshman high school year.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2016 • 1:28:04am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Also one of the first LPs I bought when I got my first stereo in my Freshman high school year.

I got my first stereo around the same time; a big old Sansui with a Nikko cassette deck and a Toshiba turntable. The first LP I bought……Back in Black.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 1:30:09am

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

I got my first stereo around the same time; a big old Sansui with a Nikko cassette deck and a Toshiba turntable. The first LP I bought……Back in Black.

Mine was a Radio Shack special for $159.99, but I was proud of it. I think my first LP purchase was “Living in the Past” by Jethro Tull.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2016 • 1:33:06am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mine was a Radio Shack special for $159.99, but I was proud of it. I think my first LP purchase was “Living in the Past” by Jethro Tull.

Mine came from a pawn shop, hence the mix and match approach. But damn, it had great sound. I did have Radio Shack speaker towers; I got the speaker cases and then replaced the subwoofers, mid range and tweeters. All ferric-oxide cooled speakers. I didn’t dare crank the volume up past 4, LOL.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 10, 2016 • 1:50:46am

Shocking absolutely no one:

Baltimore police officers routinely discriminate against blacks, repeatedly use excessive force and are not adequately held accountable for misconduct, according to a harshly critical Justice Department report being presented Wednesday.

The report, the culmination of a yearlong investigation into one of the country’s largest police forces, also found that officers make large numbers of stops — mostly in poor, black neighborhoods — with dubious justification and unlawfully arrest citizens for speech deemed disrespectful. Physical force is used unnecessarily, including against the mentally disabled, and black pedestrians and drivers are disproportionately searched during stops, the report says.

The Justice Department released a copy of the report in advance of its public announcement at an event Wednesday morning in Baltimore.

wtop.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 2:09:06am

re: #89 Timothy Watson

Shocking absolutely no one:

The RW talking points are already lining up: these people are and live like animals, hence they deserve the treatment they get, or even worse. They should shut up and learn to obey authority.

But in this case, government authority is not tyranny, it is law and order and protecting property.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 2:19:02am
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Alyosha  Aug 10, 2016 • 2:30:40am

Absolutely gorgeous, ecstatic piece. Slow burn, but worth it.

Godspeed You! Black Emperor - We Drift Like Worried Fire

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 2:42:50am

re: #91 Kragar

In eight years, we’ve gone from this: McCain Tells Crowd Obama is Not Arab

To this:


To me, that was one of the turning points: the GOP stopped trying to refute or distance itself from statements like that. It led to an attention-grabbing race to the bottom, and we have not reached bottom yet.

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Alyosha  Aug 10, 2016 • 2:44:36am

Better than the Nineth IMHO.

Beethoven. Egmont Overture - Lorin Maazel, New York Philharmonic

Indulge me. After today’s news and apparent failure of journalism, triumphant tunes are my antidote.

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Ming5000  Aug 10, 2016 • 2:52:03am

Watched Whisky Tango Foxtrot last night. Tina Fey starred with others you will recognize. Expected a comedy a’la Spy with Melissa McCarthy. Nope. Wow, I think Fey did a great job on this.

Reminded me of Afghanistan. I am deep in a lot of things every day. Lately I seem to be focused on TRUMP. Somehow I do not recall the last time I heard about Afghanistan.

This from NYT July 6 2016. Also has a video of PBO briefing.

WASHINGTON — President Obama said Wednesday that he planned to leave 8,400 American troops in Afghanistan until the end of his term, further slowing the drawdown in a 14-year war that Mr. Obama pledged to end on his watch but now seems likely to grind on indefinitely.

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Alyosha  Aug 10, 2016 • 2:54:17am
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Ming5000  Aug 10, 2016 • 2:55:01am

When I do think about Afghanistan I worry about all of the Afghans who supported us there and what would happen if we abandoned them and things went south.
We have a huge responsibility now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 2:58:40am

re: #97 Ming5000

When I do think about Afghanistan I worry about all of the Afghans who supported us there and what would happen if we abandoned them and things went south.
We have a huge responsibility now.

Remember what happened to the Iraqi (and Turkish) Kurds after the first Gulf War.

Sometimes it does not pay to be our ally…

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Alyosha  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:03:02am

re: #97 Ming5000

When I do think about Afghanistan I worry about all of the Afghans who supported us there and what would happen if we abandoned them and things went south.
We have a huge responsibility now.

The far left would consider this feeling the modern version of ‘white man’s burden’.

I think it’s acknowledging that there are forces in the world worse than ‘Western Imperialism’. Now we’re there, we gotta pitch in.

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Alyosha  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:06:03am

re: #99 Alyosha

Though, cynically, I think our desire to see change in Afghanistan is rooted in the sunk cost. In other words, we have to leave with something to show for the effort.

Some days it’s hard to avoid the idea that maybe Afghanistan is the Money Pit.

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Nojay UK  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:15:31am

re: #100 Alyosha

Some days it’s hard to avoid the idea that maybe Afghanistan is the Money Pit.

The Afghans have been welcoming free-spending invaders for the past few millenia. If and when NATO pull out their GDP will plummet.

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Alyosha  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:25:25am

re: #101 Nojay UK

The Afghans have been welcoming free-spending invaders for the past few millenia. If and when NATO pull out their GDP will plummet.

I was going to say, ‘I wonder why Bush thought his campaign would be any different’ but, then, it’s not really a wonder, is it?

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Bubblehead II  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:27:15am

re: #44 MsJ

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

Don’t feel bad. I am just now starting season three. Every time I watch or read about tRump anymore all I can think of is, if he was at Kings Landing, his head would already be on a pike.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:29:28am

I was curious what Sharron Angle was up to given Trump’s comments yesterday and the obvious comparison with her “second amendment remedies”, and I found this story from earlier in the year through Google:

In the summer of 2010, Sharron Angle visited with top officials at the National Republican Senatorial Committee in their Washington headquarters. It was the first time the two parties had met, just weeks after Angle had won a surprise upset in Nevada’s Republican Senate primary.

The NRSC leaders wanted to talk about politics and policy with their newly minted nominee, but when the conversation turned to Social Security, they learned they had a big problem. Angle, according to two people in the room, talked about the entitlement program as if its cash reserves were literally stored in a “lockbox,” located in a government facility in West Virginia.

“Her plan to save Social Security was to somehow take all the money that had been quote ‘stolen’ out of the lockbox, and put it back in the lockbox based in West Virginia,” said Brian Walsh, who was then the NRSC’s communications director.

rollcall.com

The first thing that came to my mind was this classic SNL debate between Gore and Bush:

Iframe

Edit: Not sure if the embed is working, so here’s a link too:
nbc.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:30:09am

The Soviets came into Afghanistan in 1979 to support a modern, secular regime that guaranteed women’s rights. But they were on the wrong side of the ideological divide and so we wound up supporting a primitive, feudal tribal system that eventually turned on us.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:30:49am

re: #103 Bubblehead II

Don’t feel bad. I am just now starting season three. Every time I watch or read about tRump anymore all I can think of is, if he was at Kings Landing, his head would already be on a pike.

…but it would be a totally classy pike. the best pike. And Westeros would pay for it…

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:35:46am

As long as Trump is in this race, the assigned advantage to HRC is 2%. No more, no less.

Never let data get in the way of a critical working hypothesis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:38:23am

re: #107 Decatur Deb

As long as Trump is in this race, the assigned advantage to HRC is 2%. No more, no less.

Never let data get in the way of a critical working hypothesis.

Blacks and Latinos make up about around 30% of the population and Trump is polling less than 10% in both those groups.

How does he expect to win?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:40:52am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Blacks and Latinos make up about around 30% of the population and Trump is polling less than 10% in both those groups.

How does he expect to win?

He’s suffering from the delusion - and it would seem that his advisers suffer from this delusion as well - that white voters will swing his way 90%+.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:45:23am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Blacks and Latinos make up about around 30% of the population and Trump is polling less than 10% in both those groups.

How does he expect to win?

Bigly.

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:46:34am

Morning!

So, I just had Morning Joke on for the first 30 minutes before going to local news because I knew it would set the tone for the GOP talking points this day.

Wow. In the face of the over-the-top fascist Trump actions yesterday it seemed like it was going to come to blows between the two hosts, Joke and Mika.

Mika was going to make some kind of a statement to Paul Ryan about how Trump needed taken down and Joke stepped in and stopped her. He said more or less that Mika should shut up because she was a Democrat. She said what and turned to him with a face that said she wanted to kick him in the ‘nads. But Joke kept at it, “You are a Democrat, so let me talk.” And he kept at it saying Mika was a Democrat and he needed to address Republicans because they wouldn’t listen to a Democrat and would just say “Oh, you are a Democrat.” And then he made his statement saying Paul Ryan you are watching the destruction of the Republican party and you can’t just say Oh Trump was just joking, it was a bad joke.

And then with no sense of his own actions Joke said “I didn’t tell you not to talk, I just needed to say that as a Republican…and I am a uniter like George Bush.”

Unfreakingbelievable.

What a mess Trump has caused now, but nothing will happen, we will have a day of soft outrage by the media and then they will go on covering all this like just another Trump crazy moment and when tomorrow comes Trump will still be the GOP Presidential candidate and the media will cover him by allowing him to call in and make flimsy excuses but never apologize, never say he was very wrong, etc, etc.

This is America this August 10th, 2016. Sick…and in need of intensive care, and isolation of a deeply scary disease.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:48:19am

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

He’s suffering from the delusion - and it would seem that his advisers suffer from this delusion as well - that white voters will swing his way 90%+.

He has a cunning plan to lure us into complacency.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:48:50am

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

He’s suffering from the delusion - and it would seem that his advisers suffer from this delusion as well - that white voters will swing his way 90%+.

Women (including white women) are only 25% Trump. How, again, does he expect to win?

Answer: he is not out to win, he is out to build his brand throughout the world, and he has already won. His brand is as well known as Coca-Cola, Levis, Apple, Microsoft or Disney…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:49:53am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Women (including white women) are only 25% Trump. How, again, does he expect to win?

Answer: he is not out to win, he is out to build his brand, and he has already won. His brand is as well known as Coca-Cola, Levis, Apple, Microsoft or Disney…

Good point and that this could all be some kind of outlandish PR stunt has certainly crossed my mind, to be honest.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:50:11am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Women (including white women) are only 25% Trump. How, again, does he expect to win?

Answer: he is not out to win, he is out to build his brand, and he has already won. His brand is as well known as Coca-Cola, Levis, Apple, Microsoft or Disney…

And closing in on leprosy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:51:38am

re: #115 Decatur Deb

And closing in on leprosy.

It is not about popularity, it is about recognition.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:55:06am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is not about popularity, it is about recognition.

Worked for Fruela II.

FRUELA THE LEPROUS was king of Asturias in northern Spain from 910 until his death from leprosy in 925.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:55:19am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is not about popularity, it is about recognition.

True enough. In all fairness, Trump can say - quite honestly and without exaggeration - that he was the presidential nominee of one of the two main political parties in the United States.

That’s a pretty damn exclusive club if you really stop and think about it.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 10, 2016 • 3:58:56am

re: #44 MsJ

So don’t hate on me but I’m watching Game of Thrones for the first time (Canada is showing it uncut on broadcast tv f-bomb and all - wow on that!) and I’m just not finding it compelling. What am I missing?

Do not get attached to any characters. They will die, or worse.

Plus a lot of them, like the Red Viper, are kinda stupid.

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:00:33am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is not about popularity, it is about recognition.

I’m not buying anything with the Adolph Hitler brand on it. Ever.

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fern01  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:03:52am

So Trumps out there inciting people to use their 2nd amendment rights but Hillary’s got emails. Media still looking for a game out there.

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:07:19am

re: #121 fern01

So Trumps out there inciting people to use their 2nd amendment rights but Hillary’s got emails. Media still looking for a game out there.

Yeah Savannah Guthrie on The Today Show is going to sort it all out because Hillary said it was outrageous and the Repubs are saying everyone is overreacting.

But first The Olympics!!!

Hitler had a big Olympics show once too!

And with that, I have a busy day, and I don’t need to comment too much in the pissed-off mood I am in. Lurking…later.

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Alyosha  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:09:12am

I’m assuming that >1% of eligible voters are tuning in, not necessarily because they endorse Trump’s views, but because they had never believed politics could possibly be entertaining, and they’d like to see that brand of loon-whackery dominate the news cycle beyond the election.

Those are new voters. Not ideologically-engaged, but leper-curious. Since they have no appreciation for the serious outcomes that may result if a terrible candidate is elected because history, in their eyes is a grey wash of serious dead people and distant dates, they might figure ‘what’s the worse that could happen?’.

Those people need to be restored to their previous apathy. Or educated. But which is more likely at this point?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:09:24am

re: #121 fern01

So Trumps out there inciting people to use their 2nd amendment rights but Hillary’s got emails. Media still looking for a game out there.

The game is National Future Craps, and he rolls high every 5th turn.

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fern01  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:16:12am

Would like some recordings of Joe falling all over Trump. Now he says

“I said it from the beginning - they were all wimps - they couldn’t bring him down”.

I don’t remember Joe saying that at all.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:38:14am

Oh noes here we go with talk of October Surprises.
nypost.com

I am sure Putin and ISIS will be voting early and often before the upcoming election.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:50:50am

I enjoy the swimming events much more than I thought I would. The reason I think is all the swimmers look they they are having so much fun. Swimming is the most fun sport, in my personal opinion.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:51:24am

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

Green water be damned!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:52:05am

re: #128 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Green water be damned!!!!

Meh the men’s diving events were over, it was just teh girl divers.
//////////////////////////////////////////////

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Aug 10, 2016 • 4:54:40am

Welcome to our ool, notice there is no “p”

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MsJ  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:09:33am

re: #111 ObserverArt

And Joe and Mika are supposedly “involved”. I’d be like…

Meghan Trainor - NO

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MsJ  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:19:46am

re: #126 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Oh noes here we go with talk of October Surprises.
nypost.com

I am sure Putin and ISIS will be voting early and often before the upcoming election.

That article is so full of bullshit it’s not even funny. Not that I don’t expect Putie Poot to try to do some shit but Hillary wanted a special room? Not buying it.

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Donkey With No Name  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:21:52am

Analysis of the Tweets of Trump:

My analysis, shown below, concludes that the Android and iPhone tweets are clearly from different people, posting during different times of day and using hashtags, links, and retweets in distinct ways. What’s more, we can see that the Android tweets are angrier and more negative, while the iPhone tweets tend to be benign announcements and pictures. Overall I’d agree with @tvaziri’s analysis: this lets us tell the difference between the campaign’s tweets (iPhone) and Trump’s own (Android).

varianceexplained.org

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:21:57am

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

I got my first stereo around the same time; a big old Sansui with a Nikko cassette deck and a Toshiba turntable. The first LP I bought……Back in Black.

First album I bought with my own job money was BTO “Not Fragile”.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:25:35am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

Mine came from a pawn shop, hence the mix and match approach. But damn, it had great sound. I did have Radio Shack speaker towers; I got the speaker cases and then replaced the subwoofers, mid range and tweeters. All ferric-oxide cooled speakers. I didn’t dare crank the volume up past 4, LOL.

I had a nice Kenwood reel-reel and turntable system. Was given to me by my uncle before he was shipped off to Vietnam. When he came back he bought a different one so I got to keep it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:26:50am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

True enough. In all fairness, Trump can say - quite honestly and without exaggeration - that he was the presidential nominee of one of the two main political parties in the United States.

That’s a pretty damn exclusive club if you really stop and think about it.

And beyond that, he is now renowned throughout the world. How many people recall the names McCain, Romney, Kerry, Dukakis or Dole?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:27:05am

re: #120 ObserverArt

I’m not buying anything with the Adolph Hitler brand on it. Ever.

Lots of people would…The Helly Hansen brand, with its HH logo, is somehow very popular with the neo-Nazis.

And they invented a fake brand, Lonsdaple, which when worn with an unbuttoned shirt reads NSDAP, the initials of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

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Timothy Watson  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:27:39am

re: #126 Emptor scriptor Remorse

The Russians got Hillary’s e-mail more easily. As I’ve written before, they stole the password for Madame Secretary’s BlackBerry probably during one of her 2012 trips to that country.

Once they had the password, the Russians could see everything that Hillary was e-mailing and could record every conversation on that non-secured line.
And the NSA, all along, was watching the Russians monitor Hillary. That’s how the Admiral Michael Rogers-led NSA, which specializes in global monitoring and collection of data, came to have Hillary’s e-mails, according to my source.

That’s not how any of this works. Stealing someone’s Blackberry password isn’t the same as stealing someone’s login credentials for an e-mail server.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:31:19am

Oh, what the fuck is this mess?

A woman was fatally shot by an officer while participating in a “shoot-don’t shoot” exercise during a two-hour citizens academy hosted by the Punta Gorda Police Department in southwest Florida.

Police Chief Tom Lewis said the shooting happened Tuesday night as two of the 35 participants were randomly selected to take part in a live roleplaying scenario “in which they make decisions on using simulated lethal force.”

Lewis said Mary Knowlton, a librarian, was “mistakenly struck with a live round.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:36:42am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:42:57am

I’m guessing they stumbled on somebody’s pot patch

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Le Lapin Tueur  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:46:11am

re: #69 teleskiguy

One of the reasons why I love LGF is the palatable love of Frank Zappa. I’ve been reading LGF for over a decade now and that’s one thing that keeps me coming back. Folks around here love FZ. And that’s a good thing! Makes me feel like I’m not alone, I belong. Great community!

I don’t like being grammar nazi; can we we ascribe this, uh, poor word choice to autocorrect. Please?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:49:37am

re: #142 Le Lapin Tueur

I don’t like being grammar nazi; can we we ascribe this, uh, poor word choice to autocorrect. Please?

palpable?

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jeffreyw  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:56:18am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2016 • 5:58:58am

re: #142 Le Lapin Tueur

I don’t like being grammar nazi; can we we ascribe this, uh, poor word choice to autocorrect. Please?

But Frank is so YUMMY

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:10:41am

re: #144 jeffreyw

That reminds me of one of the awesomest breakfasts I have ever eaten, at a cafe in Moab Utah, that also catered for the hotshot firefighters.

Resembled the one in the photo, but also came with biscuits and gravy…

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:11:04am

Greets and saluts from the sultry and humid NYC metro area. I’m watching Twitter this morning with the usual mix of people calling on Trump to apologize, all while knowing that Trump never ever apologizes. He doubles down.

Some reporters and outlets are claiming that this could be construed as a joke, except that it wasn’t and the context shows it wasn’t a joke. Moreover, he’s enabled his surrogates to say so much worse. For instance:

There’s NH Rep. Al Baldasaro, who said Clinton “should be put in the firing line and shot for treason,” also indulged in anti-Muslim rhetoric to defend Trump.

There’s Carl Paladino’s call to lynch Loretta Lynch (which he claimed was a misspeak).

No, it was no mistake. It’s a wolf whistle for his deranged supporters to take matters into their own hands down the road.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:12:20am

re: #147 lawhawk

Some reporters and outlets are claiming that this could be construed as a joke, except that it wasn’t and the context shows it wasn’t a joke. Moreover, he’s enabled his surrogates to say so much worse. For instance:

Context is DT’s worst enemy.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:15:01am
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A Mom Anon  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:18:11am

re: #130 Emptor scriptor Remorse

My husband is a certified pool and spa guy and he said it’s either algae, which you fix with proper chemical balance and cleaning or an abundance of metals which most likely comes from the water supply. Neither of those is comforting.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:20:56am

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, there’s a reason he’s fighting to keep those emails and phone records out of the case. It would be a damning indictment that he knew exactly what was going on.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:24:40am

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

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Chris Christie was doing sports talk radio this morning. The Fan. He pretends to be a host from time to time. I turned it off. It seemed a better alternative than driving into a light pole.

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:26:01am

“…In the past three decades, the share of U.S. citizens who think that it would be a “good” or “very good” thing for the “army to rule”—a patently undemocratic stance—has steadily risen. In 1995, just one in sixteen respondents agreed with that position; today, one in six agree.
……….

“…Roberto Stefan Foa and Yascha Mounk lay out a variety of evidence on these themes in “The Democratic Disconnect,” [link to pdf] in which appears in the July 2016 issue of the Journal of Democracy (27:3, pp. pp. 5-17). Their opinion data is drawn from the World Values Survey, which relies on a network of social scientists, now active in about 100 countries around the world, who do surveys using a common set of questions.”

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makeitstop  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:26:44am

re: #151 lawhawk

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Yeah, there’s a reason he’s fighting to keep those emails and phone records out of the case. It would be a damning indictment that he knew exactly what was going on.

This is why he was hoping so hard to get the VP nod - to get ahead of his complicity in Bridgegate.

Sucks to be you, Big Chicken. Sucks to be you.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:31:48am

Kentucky’s idiotic governor is deciding to gut the state’s ability to properly address tax grievances. He’s abolishing the Board of Tax Appeals, which is comprised of tax experts, and is replacing it with a new commission who aren’t required to have any tax expertise.

It’s a guarantee that the state will see more lawsuits appealed from this new commission, clogging up the legal system since the people who will serve on the commission aren’t likely to know their credits from the deductions, or the intricacies of depreciation and conformity issues with the federal IRC.

Bevin thinks that consolidating separate disparate groups into a Kentucky Claims Commission will save money. He couldn’t be more wrong, especially since there’s very different issues served by the boards that handle tax appeals, victim compensation, and state negligence claims.

This is precisely the kind of idiotic thing that we expect of know-nothing GOPers who ignore consequences of their actions. He’s also reducing the compensation of those that will serve on the commission, claiming that this savings will go to victims.

Notably, there’s no word on how much this will cost the state in additional lawsuits and the tax consequences for taxpayers.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:32:03am

re: #151 lawhawk

Yeah, there’s a reason he’s fighting to keep those emails and phone records out of the case. It would be a damning indictment that he knew exactly what was going on.

Halperin, probably: “That’s not really what he meant. Dems and media are distorting. The aides are mistaken. They aren’t even talking about Christie.”

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:36:21am

re: #144 jeffreyw

Do you deliver?

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:46:17am

Translation:
If first generation Godzilla (height 50m) appears on the Tokyo of 2016

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:46:29am

re: #151 lawhawk

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Yeah, there’s a reason he’s fighting to keep those emails and phone records out of the case. It would be a damning indictment that he knew exactly what was going on.

I suspect this is part of the reason why Big Chicken didn’t get the VP nod.

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TK-421  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:50:37am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

Poor lil’ guy. Does he have a tag?

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:51:44am

re: #153 jaunte

“If those damn n*****s and b*****s are going to be running this country, I rather tear it down and go with martial law. The military won’t do anything to me anyway, if they know what’s good for them.”

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TK-421  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:53:57am

re: #112 Decatur Deb

He has a cunning plan to lure us into complacency.

A new season of “Ow, My Balls!”.

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jeffreyw  Aug 10, 2016 • 6:55:09am

re: #157 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Do you deliver?

I deliver to the kitchen table!

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:03:01am

re: #163 jeffreyw

I deliver to the kitchen table!

Wow, that’s great. My local people only bring it as far as the front door. Come on over.

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jeffreyw  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:08:55am

re: #164 Eventual Carrion

Wow, that’s great. My local people only bring it as far as the front door. Come on over.

Done! Enjoy! (Hurry, the dog was drooling…)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:11:35am

So this showed up on my FB. This guy isn’t a friend of mine. Appears to be a friend of a friend of a friend. I sent it to the secret service on Twitter.

If anyone else wants to look this guy up and report him, be my guest.

Of course, the main topic is “Trump didn’t say shoot her! He told gun owners to vote!”

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:12:46am

So the wingnuts have found their “birther” CT for the next 8 years, constantly talking about how she needs to hand over her medical records so we can be sure she’s healthy. Meanwhile, their last guy in office went down due to a pretzel and their icon was likely suffering from the onset of Alzheimer’s during his second term.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:21:52am

Some people just can’t seem to help themselves.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:24:06am

re: #168 GlutenFreeJesus

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Some people just can’t seem to help themselves.

I wish we had more space to house the criminally insane.

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Varek Raith  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:27:02am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

Translation:
If first generation Godzilla (height 50m) appears on the Tokyo of 2016

[Embedded content]

Explains the ‘Lost Lizard’ signs.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:27:40am

I knew that the WTC site was formerly known as Radio Row before the area was razed to make way for the World Trade Center, but I didn’t know that the area between that and the Battery was known as Little Syria, for the influx of Arab immigrants who made their way from the Middle East.

That’s a pretty interesting history of the area.

At the end of World War I, while Little Syria was still at its peak, a new neighborhood began to coalesce around its northern edges. With Manhattan’s west side docks “awash in surplus military and ship-to-shore radio parts,” enterprising merchants began to deal in radio components for amateur tinkerers and customers who needed to purchase or buy retail radios. In 1921, City Radio opened on Cortlandt Street (just down the street from the Syrian-run Hotel Lebanon). By the time Robert Moses was beginning the process of bulldozing Little Syria, there were over 300 businesses located in the 13-block area surrounding the Hudson Terminal of the Hudson and Manhattan Railroad. By 1927—when the local merchants held a “jubilee” to bring people into their shops—the term “Radio Row” was in common use, and it would remain that way until 1966.

While a 1930 directory lists some Syrian businesses on Washington Street that sold records and radios, it seems that Radio Row didn’t have a large Syrian presence, though precisely who worked at the shops can be hard to research. Certainly, by the time Radio Row was well established, many Syrian residents and businesses had already relocated to Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn. What the shopkeepers of Radio Row didn’t realize as they watched Little Syria dismantled was that their days in the neighborhood were numbered, too.

It is interesting to see how immigrants migrate not only to the US, but within the city and then to surrounding areas and then on to the rest of the country.

Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn is still a hub of Arab and Muslim life in NYC.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:28:29am

re: #168 GlutenFreeJesus

These are people who took the Trump comments for what they were - a call to arms/action. Wish fulfillment.

None of it good.

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:31:18am

Because this is much more reasonable:

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:32:13am

re: #173 Lidane

Because this is much more reasonable:

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That’s so reassuring!

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Varek Raith  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:32:13am

re: #173 Lidane

Because this is much more reasonable:

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Nice ‘WTF’ face.

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TK-421  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:34:24am

All of this last minute soul searching the RWNJ are doing smacks of political opportunism.

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:34:34am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:34:51am

re: #173 Lidane

Because this is much more reasonable:

yes, and how many meanings does this make it now that we’ve heard for what Trump said? I’m losing track.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:36:30am

re: #172 lawhawk

The (not-so) funny part of it…. This “friend” of mine put up a lengthy post about Trump’s words being taken out of context by evil liberals and the media. Trump clearly meant for 2A people to vote against her at the ballot box. Then he’s got friends of his jumping in with the “KILL HER!!!!!” comments. And people in that thread defending Trump saying he was taken out of context are voting up these comments.

He often uses the “I was in the Army” excuse to say whatever crazy bullshit he wants.

Only keeping this guy around for now just to gloat in November. Then he and many others are deleted from my friends list.

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TK-421  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:37:54am

So how do they explain Trump closing his thought by saying it would be terrible? Voting and exercising political power is terrible?

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:38:10am

It is simply impossible to keep up with the incessant flow of lies and misstatements by Trump, let alone the excuses and smears of his surrogates, but some are trying.

Trump’s 2A bashing of Clinton goes beyond merely lying about Clinton being a gun grabber (following nearly a decade of claiming that Obama was just days away from grabbing all the guns too). It’s incitement to violence.

But wink wink nudge nudge. It’s just a joke. Except that it isn’t - and never was.

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:38:12am
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Belafon  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:39:34am

re: #176 TK-421

All of this last minute soul searching the RWNJ are doing smacks of political opportunism.

Almost all politics is opportunism. It doesn’t mean they should be allowed to get away with it, though.

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:42:25am

re: #111 ObserverArt

Here is the opening of Morning Joke that I commented on in #111.

I suggest watching it because it gets into some pretty good commentary even with Joke being a blockhead to Mika.

Mike Barnicle and Jon Meacham make good points, especially Barnicle about media rolls in this who Trump mess.

It also has a nice group of the crazy comments in support of Trump’s comment.

Of course there is Mark Halperin

The Mika Joke blow-up is at the 17 minute mark.

This 20+ minute video says so damn much.

Iframe

Oh yeah…can Joke pile that mop of hair any higher???

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:43:57am

Here we go again with recycling scandals. What’s old is new again:

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:51:01am

re: #185 lawhawk

Here we go again with recycling scandals. What’s old is new again:

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“We found some of the deleted emails!”

“These emails were from Clinton’s aides.”

“WHICH SHE DELETED!!!”

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:53:54am

Musical diversion:

All your rebel bass are belong to us:

Star Wars Millennium Falcon Guitar

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Great White Snark  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:57:15am

Whew I just got pranked at work. I’m shooting some cell video pans of downtown from the fire escape a few floors upstairs. Next thing I know I have a red laser dot on the back of my phone. Now lasers on keychains are a lot more common than on guns apart from SWAT teams and action films. But I still jumped, then got a text from a friend down the street.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:57:34am

They are evolving faster than we are

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:58:30am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

They are evolving faster than we are

It’s the fluoride!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:59:09am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

They are evolving faster than we are

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EGAD

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retired cynic  Aug 10, 2016 • 7:59:47am

Just heard Gary Johnson in an extended interview on NPR On Point. What a DICK! Forget hearing anything from Bill Weld. Jill Stein next hour. Such joy!

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whitebeach  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:00:34am

re: #173 Lidane

Because this is much more reasonable:

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Is it just me, or isn’t engaging in “armed revolt” against the U.S. government pretty much the definition of treason—you know, that thing they’re always accusing Hillary of?

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:02:39am
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Stanley Sea  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:05:25am

re: #194 FormerDirtDart

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This article is jaw dropping.

With fish teeth.

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Jenner7  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:10:11am
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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:10:18am

It’s rather sad that it takes the Justice Dept telling you that your cops are racist assholes, opening the door for some very pricey lawsuits, for police departments to start cleaning house. It makes it difficult to accept the whole “few bad apples” BS when those bad apples stay on the payroll until they become too expensive to defend.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:14:29am

re: #194 FormerDirtDart

Note too who one of the lawyers digging into Trump’s perpetual lies: Mary Jo White.

If that name sounds familiar, it should. She’s one of the top lawyers in the nation, a former federal prosecutor from the SDNY whose office led prosecutions against countless terrorists including the 1993 WTC bombing, and is currently over at the SEC.

By filing suit, Trump hadn’t just opened himself up to questioning — he had opened a door into the opaque and secretive company he ran.

O’Brien’s attorneys included Mary Jo White, now the chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission, and Andrew Ceresney, now the SEC’s director of enforcement. The lawsuit had given them the power to request that Trump turn over internal company documents, and they used it. They arrived at the deposition having already identified where Trump’s public statements hadn’t matched the private truth.

The questions began with that handwritten note and the 50 percent stake that wasn’t 50 percent.

“The 30 percent equates to much more than 30 percent,” Trump explained. His reasoning was that he had not been required to put up money at the outset, so his 30 percent share seemed more valuable.

“Are you saying that the real estate community would interpret your interest to be 50 percent, even though in limited partnership agreements it’s 30 percent?” Ceresney asked.

“Smart people would,” Trump said.

“Smart people?”

“Smart people would say it’s much more than 30 percent.”

Trump is a serial liar and fabulist. He has no connection to facts or reality.

IOW, he’s the perfect GOP candidate, since the GOP voters don’t consider facts to be real either.

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:16:29am
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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:17:01am

re: #198 lawhawk

Then there’s a reference to the infamous Meredith McIver:

In some cases, Trump acknowledged he was wrong — but not that he was at fault. Instead, he sought to turn the blame on others.

“This is somebody that wrote it, probably Meredith McIver,” Trump said at one point when confronted with another false statement. “That is a mistake.”

McIver, a staff writer with the Trump Organization, blazed into the public eye last month for having inserted plagiarized material — taken from Michelle Obama’s 2008 convention speech — in the convention speech of Trump’s wife, Melania. McIver said it had been an innocent mistake.

But in this deposition more than eight years earlier, Trump was blaming her for a mistake in one of his own books, “How to Get Rich.” In the 2004 book, co-written with McIver, Trump described his massive debt load during a low period in the early 1990s. “I owed billions upon billions of dollars — $9.2 billion to be exact,” the book said as it retold the story of his rise back to success.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:18:47am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

They are evolving faster than we are

You would think they would use images of the actual fish being pulled out of Michigan waters. That image has been floating around the internet for years. It was posted to Wikipedia in 2014.

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gwangung  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:19:49am

re: #197 Targetpractice

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It’s rather sad that it takes the Justice Dept telling you that your cops are racist assholes, opening the door for some very pricey lawsuits, for police departments to start cleaning house. It makes it difficult to accept the whole “few bad apples” BS when those bad apples stay on the payroll until they become too expensive to defend.

But basically, I’d say 90% of the problem still remains….

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:21:21am

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

You would think they would use images of the actual fish being pulled out of Michigan waters. That image has been floating around the internet for years. It was posted to Wikipedia in 2014.

Somebody tell ClickOnDetroit they were pwn3d

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:26:17am

Oh, that’s helpful:

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:28:46am

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

Somebody tell ClickOnDetroit they were pwn3d

Nah, there’s been stories of Pacu being caught for a while. Likely someone asked for a close-up of Pacu teeth, and just pulled it off of google.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:31:12am

re: #204 Lidane

Oh, that’s helpful:

I’m not going to click on the link right now, but if that’s true, I hope every “apologist” from yesterday is trying to decide on one or two barrels of moonshine.

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Jenner7  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:37:10am
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retired cynic  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:38:17am

re: #192 retired cynic

Just heard Gary Johnson in an extended interview on NPR On Point. What a DICK! Forget hearing anything from Bill Weld. Jill Stein next hour. Such joy!

Now hearing Jill Stein, and she is an idiot. She is so excited, she is hyperventilating, can only get a couple of words out before gasping for air.

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retired cynic  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:44:12am

OT: Here’s a good, fun link about O’Keefe and the recent voting kerfuffle:

juanitajean.com

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Jenner7  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:45:01am

Don’t think it will work, but I know they won’t vote or Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:49:21am

re: #208 Jenner7

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Trump has a one-size-fits-all approach to attack whoever has criticized him for anything: LOW RATINGS!

His poll numbers are the equivalent of ratings.

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:51:43am

Woman fatally shot during Florida police academy drill

“…a [civilian] participant in a two-hour training course designed by the city when the accident occurred. The course Tuesday was attended by 35 civilians.

Lewis said the gun used in the active shooter scenario role play mistakenly had a live round in it

recklessly, carelessly, negligent. anything but “mistakenly”
mistakenly my ass

never let that person handle a weapon again

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scottslemmons  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:52:18am

re: #210 retired cynic

OT: Here’s a good, fun link about O’Keefe and the recent voting kerfuffle:

juanitajean.com

I just don’t understand why O’Keefe isn’t in a federal lockup yet. Even in a system that shoots black people for selling cigarettes and shrugs off wingnut waving guns around at BLM rallies, there’s got to be someone in law enforcement who’d eventually get sick of this prick and pitch him in the hoosegow.

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makeitstop  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:55:07am

re: #204 Lidane

Oh, that’s helpful:

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They’re incapable of learning from past mistakes. Which I guess makes an odd sort of sense when you consider that they probably think they don’t make any mistakes.

They just roll out spin after spin, excuse after excuse, ntil people get tired of talking about it.

What a shit show. I shudder to think about these people actually trying to operate the levers of power. They’d kill us all.

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:56:34am

re: #210 retired cynic

OT: Here’s a good, fun link about O’Keefe and the recent voting kerfuffle:

juanitajean.com

electoral-vote.com

did a great write up a few days ago about the absurdity of in-person voting fraud actually working

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Jayleia  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:57:49am

re: #211 Jenner7

It may not work, but watching Trump’s response typically forces people away from him and toward the other side.

As a great strategist once said “Only the heir to the throne of the kingdom of idiots would fight a war on twelve fronts.”, I’ve stopped counting how many fronts Trump is fighting on.

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

And in November, with luck and a bit of work, his ratings will be going down.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 8:59:09am

Paging Trump…. your 3AM phone call awaits.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:00:24am

And back to Bridgegate, Trump has learned the art of throwing people under the bus:

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:01:32am

re: #219 lawhawk

And back to Bridgegate, Trump has learned the art of throwing people under the bus:

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The emasculation is complete.

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Jay C  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:02:15am

re: #211 Jenner7

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Don’t think it will work, but I know they won’t vote for Trump.

I don’t think so, either, but it certainly can’t hurt. Though Mrs. Clinton’s approach (from the link):

“I’ve been fighting to defend religious freedom for years,” Clinton writes in an excerpt of the op-ed provided to BuzzFeed News. “As secretary of state, I made it a cornerstone of our foreign policy to protect the rights of religious minorities around the world — from Coptic Christians in Egypt, to Buddhists in Tibet.”

is probably unlikely to resonate much. I’m not sure the LDS in Utah consider themselves that much of a “persecuted minority” any more - at least on the Copts-in-Egypt level; also: “religious freedom” in today’s political-speak is usually merely a transparent euphemism for “anti-gay”, especially in the context of (still) attempting to enact anti-gay (and discriminatory in general) legislation into the law, and defend discrimination whenever a “religious” argument can be deployed. Not sure how Hillary’s longstanding positions are going to sway many voters there.

DISCLAIMER: above written with little sure knowledge of Utah politics: corrective data welcomed.

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:03:43am

re: #181 lawhawk

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It is simply impossible to keep up with the incessant flow of lies and misstatements by Trump
, let alone the excuses and smears of his surrogates, but some are trying.

that’s the strategy

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:04:18am

Last year, the wingnuts were absolutely, positively sure that Christie had done nothing wrong and the whole Bridegate investigation a witch hunt.

By next year, they’ll be absolutely convinced that he was crooked all along and they never really supported him.

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scottslemmons  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:05:01am

re: #220 Targetpractice

The emasculation is complete.

Trump’s treatment of Christie almost makes me feel sympathy for him.

On the other hand: Lawl.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:12:15am

re: #219 lawhawk

He called the GW Bridge the largest in the world. lol

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Bubblehead II  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:12:53am

No really expecting a response from my Gov, but what the hell.

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iossarian  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:13:50am

Anyone else getting that whole Groundhog Day feeling about this election campaign?

Only three months to go. Oh, and the four years after that.

And the four years after that.

And…

You get the picture.

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:15:08am

im nearly done with an interesting book But What If We’re Wrong? Thinking About the Present As If It Were the Past

that’s an amazon link

on p. 248 he says

We spend our lives learning many new thing, only to discover (again and again) that most of what we’ve learned is either wrong or irrelevant. A big part of our mind can handle this; a smaller, deeper part cannot. And it’s that smaller part that matters more, because that part of our mind is who we really are (whether we like it or not).

and it struck me to wonder of a very lot of people are demonstrating a profound lack of ability to deal with and reassess the world when they “learn” something they thought was true is either wrong or irrelevant.

and for many, when this happens a lot, because of the nature of a large number of things they “learned” that dont pan out - because they never were “true” - maybe it just leads to a sort of shutdown in reason and processing logic

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:16:12am

re: #182 Lidane

Keith Olbermann ✔ @KeithOlbermann
Nice to see @JoeNBC calling for Trump’s removal NOW. It’s as if Gordon Liddy called for Nixon to resign in an Op-Ed in, say, March 1975.
8:49 AM - 10 Aug 2016
241 241 Retweets 599 599 likes

Is Olbermann on any TV these days??? Been too busy to keep up with his career ups and downs. I know he can be an ass many times, but he is an intelligent ass and when he decides to dice someone into little bits, there are few better.

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iossarian  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:18:59am

re: #228 dangerman

I find that a lot of people don’t pay attention to much outside their immediate sphere of activity. This is fundamentally why it’s hard to have conversations about politics with most people.

It’s depressing how many people that I consider to be smart, engaged, thoughtful in general can’t sustain a conversation about politics that goes beyond the second question, e.g.: “but what if this policy were actually implemented and…”, or “but we tried that in this specific case, and what happened was…”

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:19:30am
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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:22:20am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

They are evolving faster than we are

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Hmmm. I wonder if that is because of the Zebra Mussels that have been in the Great Lakes for some time now? The fish that would probably have them as a food source need to crunch up those shells to get to the good parts.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:22:21am

re: #219 lawhawk

And back to Bridgegate, Trump has learned the art of throwing people under the bus:

The article is from last December…

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:23:08am

re: #228 dangerman

im nearly done with an interesting book But What If We’re Wrong? Thinking About the Present As If It Were the Past

that’s an amazon link

on p. 248 he says

and it struck me to wonder of a very lot of people are demonstrating a profound lack of ability to deal with and reassess the world when they “learn” something they thought was true is either wrong or irrelevant.

and for many, when this happens a lot, because of the nature of a large number of things they “learned” that dont pan out - because they never were “true” - maybe it just leads to a sort of shutdown in reason and processing logic

I recently found out that something I have lived by since the 70s is not true. The complementary proteins idea from Diet For a Small Planet. Now I can’t eat.

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iossarian  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:24:28am

re: #230 iossarian

A corollary of this is the whole politician “likability” nonsense. Someone was telling me the other day that she didn’t “like Hillary much”. I tried to follow up a bit on that, and there was literally nothing there. No reason. Just “I don’t like her”.

WHY DON’T YOU LIKE HER?

No reason. And yet, tepid support. And I bet that if you got into the details and forced that person to confront the most likely practical outcomes of a Hillary presidency, you would find 75%+ alignment with those outcomes.

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:25:49am

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

You would think they would use images of the actual fish being pulled out of Michigan waters. That image has been floating around the internet for years. It was posted to Wikipedia in 2014.

Awwww. Now my joke about crunching Zebra Mussels falls short. Thanks!/

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KerFuFFler  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:26:03am

re: #220 Targetpractice

And back to Bridgegate, Trump has learned the art of throwing people under the bus:

The emasculation is complete.

Trump made those comments way back in December of 2015. I am not sure why they came up again today———he did not reassert that recently or did I miss something?

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No Depression  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:28:11am

re: #168 GlutenFreeJesus

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Some people just can’t seem to help themselves.

His profile picture is a non-Nazi hardcore punk band. Because if there’s one thing punks like, it’s fascism.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:28:21am

re: #223 Targetpractice

Last year, the wingnuts were absolutely, positively sure that Christie had done nothing wrong and the whole Bridegate investigation a witch hunt.

By next year, they’ll be absolutely convinced that he was crooked all along and they never really supported him.

And that Christie was is a libtard and that he loves radical Muslims, etc.

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:29:40am
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darthstar  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:30:31am
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No Depression  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:31:20am

re: #229 ObserverArt

Is Olbermann on any TV these days??? Been too busy to keep up with his career ups and downs. I know he can be an ass many times, but he is an intelligent ass and when he decides to dice someone into little bits, there are few better.

He voices an anthropomorphic whale TV anchor for the animated Netflix series Bojack Horseman.

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:33:56am

*facepalm*

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darthstar  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:34:03am

re: #242 No Depression

He voices an anthropomorphic whale TV anchor for the animated Netflix series Bojack Horseman.

I think he’s pretty much retired from taking politicians seriously enough to mock them.

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:34:46am

re: #230 iossarian

I find that a lot of people don’t pay attention to much outside their immediate sphere of activity. This is fundamentally why it’s hard to have conversations about politics with most people.

It’s depressing how many people that I consider to be smart, engaged, thoughtful in general can’t sustain a conversation about politics that goes beyond the second question, e.g.: “but what if this policy were actually implemented and…”, or “but we tried that in this specific case, and what happened was…”

yes
i guess part of it is that everyone cant articulate logical reasoning why they think or feel how they do
and i wonder if its partially maybe so that they wouldnt have to face the realignment i mentioned when faced with not being able to reconcile their existing thinking with “reality”

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Teukka  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:34:55am

re: #218 lawhawk

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Paging Trump…. your 3AM phone call awaits.

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darthstar  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:35:36am

From the Tampa Bay Times…

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:35:43am

re: #234 wrenchwench

I recently found out that something I have lived by since the 70s is not true. The complementary proteins idea from Diet For a Small Planet. Now I can’t eat.

rice & beans, etc?
i never read that book so it’s not true in my world ;-)

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:37:34am

Mid day sanity break
They are using the handrail(wingrail?)

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:37:36am

re: #241 darthstar

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you can steal peoples votes but dont f@%& with their money

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:37:38am

re: #246 Teukka

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The word “Gleiwitz” comes to mind………

Funny that.

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Skip Intro  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:37:49am
Oh, it’s a mess for them all now. Up in New Hampshire, Senator Kelly Ayotte, who saw Susan Collins of Maine beat her to the last lifeboat off the listing hulk on Monday, is caught in an impossible position, having endorsed El Caudillo de Mar-A-Lago long ago. Newt Gingrich thinks everything’s dandy because Andrew Jackson. Sean Hannity seems to be steadily losing what’s left of his mind.

It’s a gloriously floundering death for a politics that has done so much damage to the rest of the country. And, even with all that, none of them get it—that nearly four decades of conservative politics, and the techniques those politics used to attain and maintain power, made someone like He, Trump inevitable. They ate the monkeybrains long ago, and this is what happens when the prion disease reaches its terminal stage. You don’t even remember how you got so crazy in the first place.

For example:

Donald Trump once said that he saw Muslims dancing to celebrate the 9/11 attacks.
Ronald Reagan once said that he helped liberate Nazi concentration camps.

Donald Trump once said that Mexican rapists were pouring over our borders, threatening our national security.
Ronald Reagan once said that the Nicaraguan Army could be in Brownsville, Texas in two days, threatening our national security.

Donald Trump once said the global climate crisis was a hoax made up by the Chinese.
Ronald Reagan once said that trees caused more air pollution than automobiles.

Yeah, Trump is a real outlier.

More details as the day progresses, I’m afraid.

esquire.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:38:42am

re: #173 Lidane

Because this is much more reasonable:

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I said yesterday Trump might have been saying they could shoot cops rather than Hillary.

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:39:09am

re: #243 Lidane

*facepalm*

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well insurance is like “free money”
forget the catastrophe, loss, destruction, displacement possible death

it’s “something for nothing”

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:40:35am

re: #254 dangerman

well insurance is like “free money”
forget the catastrophe, loss, destruction, displacement possible death

it’s “something for nothing”

The punchline here is that very few people in Texas buy flood insurance because it’s so damn expensive.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:41:11am

re: #225 GlutenFreeJesus

He called the GW Bridge the largest in the world. lol

In respect to total vehicle volume, he’s not wrong. It’s the most heavily crossed span in the world.

As to length, it’s been surpassed for decades; even the Verranzano is longer in NYC.

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darthstar  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:41:56am
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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:42:18am

re: #255 Lidane

The punchline here is that very few people in Texas buy flood insurance because it’s so damn expensive.

ah
then its a good thing i left out the relationship of any claims payment to premiums paid…

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:42:57am

Whatever she’s getting paid, I hope it was worth whatever was left of her soul:

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CuriousLurker  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:44:15am

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

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Oh, okay, so unless a politician has a “PhD in grammar” (does such a thing even exist, just “grammar” never mind which language?) then you can’t “dissect what he said, literally based off the sequence… [argle bargle]…

Oh gawd, these people are soooooo stupid.

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Skip Intro  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:45:51am

re: #259 Lidane

I wonder if Trump makes her wear a blonde wig at night and answer to “Ivanka”?

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:47:36am

re: #260 CuriousLurker

Oh, okay, so unless a politician has a “PhD in grammar” (does such a thing even exist, just “grammar” never mind which language?) then you can’t “dissect what he said, literally based off the sequence… [argle bargle]…

Oh gawd, these people are soooooo stupid.

The Trump supporters are even worse, since they either buy the excuses or ignore all the noise altogether because they refuse to accept the reality that their chosen candidate is a complete incompetent running for the White House.

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Bear  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:47:43am

re: #249 FormerDirtDart

They are doing better going down than some people do.

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Joe Bacon  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:47:53am

re: #144 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

I’M HUNGRY!!!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:48:58am

re: #259 Lidane

Whatever she’s getting paid, I hope it was worth whatever was left of her soul:

So, this means Trump was simultaneously joking, unifying the party to GOTV and prevent Clinton from appointing SCOTUS judges, AND stating the the NRA and it’s supporters could influence the Senate from approving any Clinton SCOTUS noms.

GTFOOH

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:49:47am

re: #255 Lidane

The punchline here is that very few people in Texas buy flood insurance because it’s so damn expensive.

Interesting. That is sort of like a former boss of mine that lives in Fort Meyers Florida and no matter how much he is willing to spend on house insurance he can’t seem to get any high rated insurance, money no object.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:51:33am

re: #210 retired cynic

OT: Here’s a good, fun link about O’Keefe and the recent voting kerfuffle:

juanitajean.com</blockquote

Read this.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:52:39am

re: #263 Bear

They are doing better going down than some people do.

Hi Bear!

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:54:12am

re: #259 Lidane

Whatever she’s getting paid, I hope it was worth whatever was left of her soul:

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Katrina Pierson makes my skin crawl at the same time my blood boils. I don”t think I have ever seen such a bald-faced liar of her caliber. And she maintains a stone face through it all. I wonder where she got her practice and developed her chops? Or does it just come naturally?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:56:01am

Mark Kelly is going to be on CNN shortly re: trump’s threat.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:57:35am
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dangerman  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:57:44am

re: #256 lawhawk

In respect to total vehicle volume, he’s not wrong. It’s the most heavily crossed span in the world.

As to length, it’s been surpassed for decades; even the Verranzano is longer in NYC.

maybe he meant in terms of the amount of time you have to spend on the bridge to get across

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nines09  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:58:20am

re: #219 lawhawk

Look at the time stamp on that. Christie stood on stage with Trump after this article. Think about that. Chunky little sycophant willingly debased himself. Delicious.

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:58:33am

re: #260 CuriousLurker

Oh, okay, so unless a politician has a “PhD in grammar” (does such a thing even exist, just “grammar” never mind which language?) then you can’t “dissect what he said, literally based off the sequence… [argle bargle]…

Oh gawd, these people are soooooo stupid.

Is it actually stupidity CL, or just morally bankrupt behavior to further Trump for benefits?

I sometimes think it takes a level of intelligence to be able shovel crap like that?

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makeitstop  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:58:44am

re: #269 ObserverArt

I wonder where she got her practice and developed her chops?

Why, at Trump University, of course.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:59:03am

re: #256 lawhawk

With trump we know it’s all about size and only size. ;)

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:59:28am

re: #243 Lidane

*facepalm*

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And so it goes:

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 9:59:45am

re: #275 makeitstop

Why, at Trump University, of course.

another Trump issue that is seemingly slipping by the wayside for our so-called liberal media.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:02:42am

re: #273 nines09

Look at the time stamp on that. Christie stood on stage with Trump after this article. Think about that. Chunky little sycophant willingly debased himself. Delicious.

How about George P. Bush endorsing Trump after what the Donald said about his parents? Political ambition trumps all, it seems.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:03:26am

King is good when he sticks to racial justice.

Read this. This is a horrible murder.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:04:38am

re: #271 Kragar

Do you know if there’s a story link, or is that an older story?

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:05:35am

re: #275 makeitstop

re: #269 ObserverArt

I wonder where she got her practice and developed her chops?

Why, at Trump University, of course.

Your comment got my interest to try to answer my original question…so I went with Wiki.

This part of her Wiki page says so much…

2014 Texas Congressional race
In the 2014 Texas Congressional elections, Pierson challenged incumbent Congressman Pete Sessions in the Republican primary to represent Texas’ 32nd district.[7][8] Her candidacy was endorsed by Rafael Cruz and Sarah Palin, who called her “a feisty fighter for freedom.”[7] While U.S. Senator Ted Cruz offered praise, calling her an “utterly fearless principled conservative,”[8] he stopped short of an endorsement.[8] In the primary, she received 36 percent of the vote, losing to Sessions, who received 63 percent.[9] Pierson went on to become spokesperson for the Tea Party Leadership Fund.[when?][4]

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:06:07am

re: #281 Belafon

I asked for clarification, happened in 2008

en.m.wikipedia.org

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:07:02am

re: #283 Kragar

Thanks.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:07:02am

[This tweet has apparently been deleted.]

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nines09  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:07:04am

re: #279 Big Beautiful Door

GOP! GOP! GOP! GOP! GOP!

Kid is a moron.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:07:06am

re: #282 ObserverArt

Your comment got my interest to try to answer my original question…so I went with Wiki.

This part of her Wiki page says so much…

Because Pete Sessions isn’t wacko enough?

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:07:07am

re: #281 Belafon

Do you know if there’s a story link, or is that an older story?

Knoxville Unitarian Universalist church shooting, July 27, 2008

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:08:46am

re: #283 Kragar

I asked for clarification, happened in 2008

en.m.wikipedia.org

Before the impact of the President’s term, so score that one as “background hate”.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:09:34am

re: #274 ObserverArt

Is it actually stupidity CL, or just morally bankrupt behavior to further Trump for benefits?

I sometimes think it takes a level of intelligence to be able shovel crap like that?

It’s stupidity (in the form of cognitive bias) to believe the crap they’re shoveling. I don’t necessarily think his spokespersons are stupid—I think they’re utterly amoral people who will say anything if sufficiently financially compensated.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:10:20am
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:11:15am

re: #207 Lidane

Video of Pierson:

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Every time I see Pierson the first thought in my mind is, “That is one vicious bitch.” I thought that the first time I saw her, before I knew she was Trump’s mouthpiece.

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:13:10am

re: #292 Romantic Heretic

Every time I see Pierson the first thought in my mind is, “That is one vicious bitch.” I thought that the first time I saw her, before I knew she was Trump’s mouthpiece.

She challenged Pete Sessions because she thought he was a godless liberal.

Pierson is a nutcase.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:13:22am

re: #213 dangerman

Lewis said the gun used in the active shooter scenario role play mistakenly had a live round in it

As Jim Wright has pointed out repeatedly, there are no accidents with firearms.

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Skip Intro  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:21:57am

Remember Trump getting stuck in an elevator in Colorado Springs? Turns out someone in Trump’s group did it.

“Thanks for the support… it was funny. You have likely heard more about the elevator fiasco. Turns out someone (Secret Service or his entourage) had an elevator bypass key.. they (one of them) turned it off between floors and didn’t know how to get it back on.. our folks went and fished them out… elevator guys get there and say what the crap? Who turned this off? Turned it back on and voila.”

Trump later went on to attack the fire marshal for enforcing the venue capacity that Trump had agreed with earlier.

thedenverchannel.com

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A Mom Anon  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:24:15am

You know, instead of fucking Katrina Pierson and Rudy Guilliani and the rest of the douchebags on my TV defending Trump, how about we start hearing from people who have been hurt by this level of violent rhetoric? Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly have been on here and there, but that’s been about it.

What Trump and his surrogates have been doing is “hey, let’s you and him fight” or stochastic terrorism. It’s now too late to close the barn door. I don’t have the stomach for it or I would watch Stormfront and other hate site message boards as he says this shit and throw it right back at the people who support him. If anything else happens as a result of this, and we know it’s coming, the blood is on their hands, I don’t give a flying monkey’s fuck how much they deny and try to DARVO it back on us. I can’t forgive this shit and I won’t. This is precisely what this shit is designed to do, cause violence, and the people doing it KNOW IT.

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Varek Raith  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:25:01am

re: #188 Great White Snark

Whew I just got pranked at work. I’m shooting some cell video pans of downtown from the fire escape a few floors upstairs. Next thing I know I have a red laser dot on the back of my phone. Now lasers on keychains are a lot more common than on guns apart from SWAT teams and action films. But I still jumped, then got a text from a friend down the street.

Ain’t friends great???

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Franklin  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:25:15am

#NeverForget
#investifarted

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:27:47am

re: #269 ObserverArt

Katrina Pierson makes my skin crawl at the same time my blood boils. I don”t think I have ever seen such a bald-faced liar of her caliber. And she maintains a stone face through it all. I wonder where she got her practice and developed her chops? Or does it just come naturally?

Ted Cruz

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:28:24am

re: #228 dangerman

Interesting.

I was just thinking about a book I read; Future: Tense: The Coming World Order? Specifically one of the closing lines.

The hardest thing Americans are going to have to do in this generation is get used to the idea that they are just another country. Still a very big and powerful country, to be sure, but not the “indispensable nation”, not a beacon of liberty shining into the darkness, and not the only great power that really matters.

In my opinion, much of the craziness happening in the States right now, including the rise of Trump and his Mussolinian followers, is Americans trying very, very hard not to face this realization.

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Varek Raith  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:28:39am

re: #243 Lidane

*facepalm*

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Hahaha, nope.
Flood insurance is extra.
You’ll likely pay more than you ever get back in an actual flood.
And if you live in a flood prone area, good luck even getting said insurance.
What a maroon.

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:29:54am
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:30:14am

re: #231 Lidane

See? He is a millionaire! He borrowed millions. That’s the same as actually possessing millions of dollars!

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:33:36am

re: #250 dangerman

Thanks to Citizens United money is votes.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:34:09am

re: #295 Skip Intro

Remember Trump getting stuck in an elevator in Colorado Springs? Turns out someone in Trump’s group did it.

Trump later went on to attack the fire marshal for enforcing the venue capacity that Trump had agreed with earlier.

thedenverchannel.com

Secret Service were butts too… wanted me to let more people in because he (Trump) was threatening to leave the room.. and they hadn’t secured the other location. I communicated to them that my problem was the public.. theirs was their candidate… their detail is their problem.. not mine. So… we held to the limit (I did grant permission to go 10% over based on administrative controls and moving some barriers), but they did not exercise that … he just launched on his speech and that was that.

“PD, Fire and Campus Police as well as campus administration held to agreement. Word is they dispersed 10K on-line tickets for a 2500 load event. Again, not my problem.”

haha, these emails are good!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:35:39am

re: #300 Romantic Heretic

Interesting.

I was just thinking about a book I read; Future: Tense: The Coming World Order? Specifically one of the closing lines.

In my opinion, much of the craziness happening in the States right now, including the rise of Trump and his Mussolinian followers, is Americans trying very, very hard not to face this realization.

Well, I kind of disagree with that. Not because I’m a jingoistic chest beater though. But there is only one nation on this planet with the economic might and the military capacity to maintain a global web of security alliances to maintain the peace and the global trading system, and that’s the U.S.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:37:00am

re: #302 Lidane

so I don’t think the GOP vote-stealing, i.e. photo id and other voting restrictions recently reinstated by the court, are going to succeed there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:39:30am

The thing you never hear from the “Voter Fraud!!!” folks is what would actually happen with any substantial in-person voter fraud. In-person fraud would require you to go to a polling place and claim to be a registered voter in that precinct. If that person actually exists, then one of 3 things would happen:

1. The real voter voted before you got there, either in person or by absentee ballot, and the poll worker will say, “We show you as already voting”. What are you gonna say, “Oh, yeah! I forgot standing in line and all that”? Alarm bells would go off in the poll worker’s head if that happened, especially because it’s entirely possible they might know the actual voter. If this were happening in significant numbers, we’d hear about it.

2. You get there before the real voter. Then the real voter shows up and is told he already voted. Pretty sure he’s not going to say, “Okay, I guess you’re right.” and go away. No, he’s gonna raise a stink about it! If this were happening at all, we’d hear about it.

3. The real voter never shows up to vote. This one, you get away with.

The thing is, if you’re the fraudster, you don’t know which one of these is going to happen, and there are very real penalties for voter fraud. Consider that turnout in Presidential years is in the 50-60% range. That means the odds of scenario 1 or 2 is better than even for any randomly chosen voter you might impersonate.

Okay, but what about dead people voting? Of course, it’s not possible for the county registrar to keep up with all the deaths in a county and expunge them from the rolls. BUT, since investigations routinely uncover these dead voters still on the rolls, the same investigation would uncover the dead voters casting votes. If this were happening, we’d hear about it.

That leaves registration fraud, i.e. creating a false identity within a precinct and casting a vote. POSSIBLE, but the dead-letter returns from nonexistent addresses would probably alert the registrar.If this were happening, we’d hear about it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:40:23am

re: #300 Romantic Heretic

Interesting.

I was just thinking about a book I read; Future: Tense: The Coming World Order? Specifically one of the closing lines.

In my opinion, much of the craziness happening in the States right now, including the rise of Trump and his Mussolinian followers, is Americans trying very, very hard not to face this realization.

And yet the weird thing is, his Foreign Policy is specifically built around DENYING America’s place as The Essential Country.

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TedStriker  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:40:57am

re: #301 Varek Raith

Hahaha, nope.
Flood insurance is extra.
You’ll likely pay more than you ever get back in an actual flood.
And if you live in a flood prone area, good luck even getting said insurance.
What a maroon.

Sorry, Varek, I don’t want to get in the way of a righteous rant, but I have to disagree with you a bit; if you have a house where there may be even a slight tendency to flood bad enough to damage your house, even from runoff from areas higher than you and even if your house isn’t in a listed flood plain, get the flood insurance.

After our house (which is far away enough from the Cumberland River and from the listed flood plains) was flooded enough from accumulated runoff in the Great Nashville Flood of 2010 to cause it to need to be demolished and rebuilt, we are legally required to have flood insurance since we had to take federal funds/assistance for the rebuild; even with that, we pay about 1/3 as much for our flood policy as we do our homeowners’ insurance every year.

floodsmart.gov

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Jenner7  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:41:51am

Maybe someone should ask Trump about this development…

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Varek Raith  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:43:25am

re: #310 TedStriker

Sorry, Varek, but I have to disagree with you a bit; if you have a house where there may be even a slight tendency to flood bad enough to damage your house, even from runoff from areas higher than you and even if your house isn’t in a listed flood plain, get the flood insurance.

After our house (which is far away enough from the Cumberland River and from the listed flood plains) was flooded enough from accumulated runoff to cause it to need to be demolished and rebuilt in the Great Nashville Flood of 2010, we have to have flood insurance since we had to take FEMA funds for the rebuild; even with that, we pay about 1/3 as much for our flood policy as we do our homeowners’ insurance every year.

floodsmart.gov

Huh, I stand corrected then.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:44:19am

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

A few caveats:
1) the person submitted an absentee or mail in ballot but died after the mailing, and before election day.
2) the person died shortly after election day.
3) a person mailing in a dead person’s ballot has not been identified as something that has happened (particularly since you’d have to request the mail in or absentee ballot).

1 and 2 are much more likely than 3. 3 is a crime; 1 and 2 aren’t - since the person was alive at the time the ballot was submitted.

Voter records are reviewed against death records periodically. Depending on the state, you can also be dropped from the voter roll if you haven’t voted in x number of elections or cycles (an issue that came up in Brooklyn NY this year when this process was not done to the letter of the law).

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A Mom Anon  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:44:57am

re: #311 Jenner7

Only if he can find those places on a world map. Without the countries labeled.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:45:01am

We need a big, beautiful wall. Between me and Donald Trump.

[…]

Ten-year-old Mariano Perez Sanchez is squatting in the sand on the Mexican side in 100-degree heat. He stares at the big construction equipment moving dirt on the U.S. side and the stack of 18-foot steel columns that will soon replace the dilapidated chain-link fence that separates the U.S. from Mexico.

“We have a game,” he says, pointing over the border to the pile of columns, “to see who can race there first.”

Then with the skill of someone who has done this many times, he takes off running around the end of the fence and into the U.S., then back into Mexico. His 9-year-old brother, Omar, whistles and then bounds over the dunes to join him.

A digger rumbles into the dirt clearing on the U.S. side; the boys race over to it. The driver hands them each two bottles of water and gives Omar 16 pesos, about $1 in change.

Over the years, border agents have told me they sometimes know the kids who live in neighborhoods near the fence. They give them treats, too, nudging them back if they step over the line.

[…]

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:47:01am

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing you never hear from the “Voter Fraud!!!” folks is what would actually happen with any substantial in-person voter fraud. In-person fraud would require you to go to a polling place and claim to be a registered voter in that precinct. If that person actually exists, then one of 3 things would happen:

1. The real voter voted before you got there, either in person or by absentee ballot, and the poll worker will say, “We show you as already voting”. What are you gonna say, “Oh, yeah! I forgot standing in line and all that”? Alarm bells would go off in the poll worker’s head if that happened, especially because it’s entirely possible they might know the actual voter. If this were happening in significant numbers, we’d hear about it.

LOL this happened when O’Keefe tried to impersonate the Free Press reporter.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:47:55am

re: #301 Varek Raith

Flood insurance is one of those things you hope never to need, but it’s required if you’re anywhere in a flood map hazard area.

It’s also a good idea most everywhere else given that flash floods can occur anywhere, including in mountainous areas or away from rivers or coastlines. But you aren’t required to have flood insurance in those areas so most people don’t bother with the flood insurance since they do the cost/benefit analysis over a 1 in 100 year flood rebuild versus the annual flood insurance costs.

Around here, I’m outside a flood zone, and don’t pay for flood insurance. But a mile away, they’re required to because they’re in the Passaic River flood zone (especially after Floyd, Irene, and Sandy).

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Jenner7  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:48:41am
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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:49:25am

Want to see the rank fuckery/racism of the Baltimore PD:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:49:32am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

LOL this happened when O’Keefe tried to impersonate the Free Press reporter.

Exactly. And of course, there are ways around it, like studying the person you’re supposed to be impersonating, making sure that they’re reclusive, etc. The problem with that is, that gains you ONE VOTE, and it’s a lot of work.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:49:56am

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing you never hear from the “Voter Fraud!!!” folks is what would actually happen with any substantial in-person voter fraud. In-person fraud would require you to go to a polling place and claim to be a registered voter in that precinct. If that person actually exists, then one of 3 things would happen:

1. The real voter voted before you got there, either in person or by absentee ballot, and the poll worker will say, “We show you as already voting”. What are you gonna say, “Oh, yeah! I forgot standing in line and all that”? Alarm bells would go off in the poll worker’s head if that happened, especially because it’s entirely possible they might know the actual voter. If this were happening in significant numbers, we’d hear about it.

2. You get there before the real voter. Then the real voter shows up and is told he already voted. Pretty sure he’s not going to say, “Okay, I guess you’re right.” and go away. No, he’s gonna raise a stink about it! If this were happening at all, we’d hear about it.

3. The real voter never shows up to vote. This one, you get away with.

The thing is, if you’re the fraudster, you don’t know which one of these is going to happen, and there are very real penalties for voter fraud. Consider that turnout in Presidential years is in the 50-60% range. That means the odds of scenario 1 or 2 is better than even for any randomly chosen voter you might impersonate.

Okay, but what about dead people voting? Of course, it’s not possible for the county registrar to keep up with all the deaths in a county and expunge them from the rolls. BUT, since investigations routinely uncover these dead voters still on the rolls, the same investigation would uncover the dead voters casting votes. If this were happening, we’d hear about it.

That leaves registration fraud, i.e. creating a false identity within a precinct and casting a vote. POSSIBLE, but the dead-letter returns from nonexistent addresses would probably alert the registrar.If this were happening, we’d hear about it.

In wingnut fantasy world, the Demonrats register all the residents of the local cemeteries, then send a horde of undocumented immigrants to the polls to cast ballots for the dead. They are pretty much convinced this is how Obama won in 2012, and its why the Democrats oppose voter ID laws.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:51:33am

re: #313 lawhawk

A few caveats:
1) the person submitted an absentee or mail in ballot but died after the mailing, and before election day.
2) the person died shortly after election day.
3) a person mailing in a dead person’s ballot has not been identified as something that has happened (particularly since you’d have to request the mail in or absentee ballot).

1 and 2 are much more likely than 3. 3 is a crime; 1 and 2 aren’t - since the person was alive at the time the ballot was submitted.

Voter records are reviewed against death records periodically. Depending on the state, you can also be dropped from the voter roll if you haven’t voted in x number of elections or cycles (an issue that came up in Brooklyn NY this year when this process was not done to the letter of the law).

My kids, who have lived in other states (and countries) for at least 10 years, are still on the voter rolls for our address. I asked the registrar to remove their names but she said she has to receive a certified letter in order to do that. Could I request absentee ballots in all their names? Nope, since they haven’t cast votes in this precinct in over 10 years their registrations have expired and they would have to re-register.

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Franklin  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:51:34am

#investifarted in GIF form

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:51:59am

re: #321 Big Beautiful Door

In wingnut fantasy world, the Demonrats register all the residents of the local cemeteries, then send a horde of undocumented immigrants to the polls to cast ballots for the dead. They are pretty much convinced this is how Obama won in 2012, and its why the Democrats oppose voter ID laws.

And nobody notices a bunch of folks showing up at polling places, barely able to speak English, with pronounced Latin American accents, claiming to be Betty-Jo Bialosky.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:53:39am

re: #324 Blind Frog Belly White

And nobody notices a bunch of folks showing up at polling places, barely able to speak English, with pronounced Latin American accents, claiming to be Betty-Jo Bialosky.

The New Black Panther thugs patrolling the polling stations intimidate them into silence./

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:54:13am

The Latest Outrageous Outrage From The SMOTI

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Lidane  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:54:46am
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Jay C  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:56:22am

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

The Latest Outrageous Outrage From The SMOTI

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If there’s any pic that just cries out for the “WTF??!!” caption, it’s that one of Hillary.
Even Hoft’s illustrations can’t believe his bullshit…

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:58:32am

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

The Latest Outrageous Outrage From The SMOTI

WOW! Hillary is Dying! Wow!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 10:59:52am

re: #329 Sir John Barron

WOW! Hillary is Dying! Wow!

SHE’S ALREADY DEAD!!!! IT’S LIKE WEEKEND AT BERNIE’S!!!!!!

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A Mom Anon  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:00:08am

re: #328 Jay C

If you’re in the public eye for any length of time, there are going to be shitty photos of you making weird faces, with your eyes closed, etc. Wingnuts have a remarkable “talent” of finding those photos and using them at every opportunity. Especially to prove how ugly liberal women are. But if you look at their pics of President Obama, you’ll notice they are mostly of him being “an angry black man”. None of that is accidental.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:00:28am

re: #306 Big Beautiful Door

I’ll have to politely disagree.

A nation with 4% of the world’s population and 20% of its economy doesn’t have the power to unilaterally impose its will on the world.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:00:35am
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Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:01:59am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:02:03am

re: #333 Kragar

Trump say what he means and means what he says but he didn’t say or mean that.

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SteelPH  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:03:01am

re: #334 Kragar

Not even bothering to dance around it, just going straight to the threat.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:03:14am

re: #334 Kragar

The evangelicals are exposing themselves this cycle. Not that we needed them to. But in selling out to Trump they are mocking themselves.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:04:29am

re: #337 Sir John Barron

The evangelicals are exposing themselves this cycle. Not that we needed them to. But in selling out to Trump they are mocking themselves.

I’ve watched them for years, trying to ram one GOP nominee down our throat after another, always claiming it was about “character”. What a joke.

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:04:34am

re: #334 Kragar

Snap-on-hair fake historian dickbag sez what?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:04:51am
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Varek Raith  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:05:27am

re: #334 Kragar

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Smite away.

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TedStriker  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:06:04am

re: #317 lawhawk

Flood insurance is one of those things you hope never to need, but it’s required if you’re anywhere in a flood map hazard area.

It’s also a good idea most everywhere else given that flash floods can occur anywhere, including in mountainous areas or away from rivers or coastlines. But you aren’t required to have flood insurance in those areas so most people don’t bother with the flood insurance since they do the cost/benefit analysis over a 1 in 100 year flood rebuild versus the annual flood insurance costs.

Around here, I’m outside a flood zone, and don’t pay for flood insurance. But a mile away, they’re required to because they’re in the Passaic River flood zone (especially after Floyd, Irene, and Sandy).

If you’re a low-lying area that’s built up, even if you’re not in a published flood zone, get the flood insurance; for this year’s renewal for us (due in a few days, actually), it’s about $390 for the year for $150,000 on the buildings (house and a shed) and $60,000 on contents.

My parents never knew we became eligible to purchase it after the law was changed after Katrina, even though we’d had minor flooding in the past (our house sits in what our stormwater people term a ‘wet-weather conveyance’; basically, our yard becomes one huge drainage ditch when it floods); had we known and had gotten it before the 2010 flood, it would have saved us a hell of a lot of heartache and trouble. Hell, the FEMA grant and the disaster loan covered a lot of our rebuild costs, but not all of it; we relied a lot on outside charitable help (free/discounted labor, donated materials and tools, etc.) to barely get it done, so I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:06:10am

re: #334 Kragar

God: No, I won’t. I’m seriously considering shoving a thunderbolt up David Barton’s ass though.

344
Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:06:28am

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

SHE’S ALREADY DEAD!!!! IT’S LIKE WEEKEND AT BERNIE’S!!!!!!

WOW! BREAKING! WOW!

345
SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:06:45am

re: #339 jaunte

Snap-on-hair fake historian dickbag sez what?

Yer gonna have to be more precise than that.

346
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:06:56am
347
jaunte  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:07:14am

re: #345 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Too generic?

348
SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:07:52am

re: #347 jaunte

Could mean just about any of them.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:08:36am

re: #343 Romantic Heretic

God: No, I won’t. I’m seriously considering shoving a thunderbolt up David Barton’s ass though.

I’ll convert on the spot to any religion whose deity blasts David Barton to oblivion in public with a thunderbolt.

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:08:45am

And I missed this morning on CSPAN

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:09:48am

re: #321 Big Beautiful Door

In wingnut fantasy world, the Demonrats register all the residents of the local cemeteries, then send a horde of undocumented immigrants to the polls to cast ballots for the dead. They are pretty much convinced this is how Obama won in 2012, and its why the Democrats oppose voter ID laws.

Here in PA you have to show ID the first time you vote in a new precinct, after that you are not asked. So here you couldn’t just register someone and go vote as them without ID the first time.

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SteelPH  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:11:15am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

I’m convinced that Girl Scout cookies aren’t actually cookies, but a highly addictive substance with the same properties of a cookie that compels you to never stop eating them.

353
TedStriker  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:11:41am

re: #352 SteelPH

I’m convinced that Girl Scout cookies aren’t actually cookies, but a highly addictive substance with the same properties of a cookie compels you to never stop eating them.

It’s all about the Thin Mints.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:12:23am

re: #350 jaunte

And I missed this morning on CSPAN

[Embedded content]

“Oh! That’s very different, then. Nevermind.”

Just kidding. NO, IT’S NOT DIFFERENT, OR BETTER, FOR FUCK’S SAKE!!!!!

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Varek Raith  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:12:51am

Speaking of legal narcotics;
amazon.com

356
Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:13:20am

re: #324 Blind Frog Belly White

And nobody notices a bunch of folks showing up at polling places, barely able to speak English, with pronounced Latin American accents, claiming to be Betty-Jo Bialosky.

“I’m sorry, but we don’t have a Bialosky on the rolls.”

“Maybe you have Melanie Haber? [“no”] Audrey Farber? [“no”] … Susan Underhill? [“no”]…. How about ‘Nancy’?”

357
Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:13:25am

re: #352 SteelPH

I’m convinced that Girl Scout cookies aren’t actually cookies, but a highly addictive substance with the same properties of a cookie compels you to never stop eating them.

Cookies already ARE “a highly addictive substance with the same properties of a cookie compels you to never stop eating them.”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:13:39am

re: #334 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Sorry, David, I’m holding out to see who Superman endorses.

359
Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:13:52am

re: #333 Kragar

[Embedded content]

The Donald needs a “What I really mean” translator like Key & Peele’s Obama anger translator.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:16:47am

re: #341 Varek Raith

Smite away.

Yeah. Murderers, rapists, bigots and all their ilk get a pass from this Jesus character. But your vote, that pisses him off.

361
Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:18:15am

re: #353 TedStriker

It’s all about the Thin Mints.

The only Girl Scout cookies in my mind.

362
nines09  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:18:25am

re: #350 jaunte

Defenders of the Constitution. And nobody else is armed. Only you hard guys.

363
wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:19:31am

re: #355 Varek Raith

Speaking of legal narcotics;
amazon.com

I was going to say something about how cruel it is to post Trader Joe’s stuff when the nearest one is 300 miles away, but it was an Amazon link. Oh miracle of miracles!

364
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:20:06am
365
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:20:32am

Extremism in defense of stupidity is no virtue.

366
wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:20:47am

re: #361 Eventual Carrion

The only Girl Scout cookies in my mind.

I know your mouth is very close to your mind, but it really is a better place to put your cookies.

367
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:21:31am

Located three counties west of me.
At least one of those tanker cars contains sulfuric acid. Official say there are no leaks but there is a shelter in place in effect for the city of Falmouth. Another tanker carrying fatty acids is leaking.

Another story with more photos (looks like it happened in back yards of homes):
cincinnati.com

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:28:36am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Located three counties west of me.
At least one of those tanker cars contains sulfuric acid. Official say there are no leaks but there is a shelter in place in effect for the city of Falmouth. Another tanker carrying fatty acids is leaking.

Another story with more photos (looks like it happened in back yards of homes):
cincinnati.com

What a photogenic disaster!

369
Joe Bacon  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:29:02am

re: #334 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I’m waiting for the day when someone will whack Barton on the head with a Bible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:29:06am

It is just scary how this sort of thought, talk and even action that would have been considered extreme even up to 2008 is now totally taken in stride and seen as some sort of normal.

When did we lose the ability to call it out and take the people responsible to task?

(rhetorical question. The year was 2008, the candidate was Obama and the Party was Tea)

371
BeachDem  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:29:36am

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

SHE’S ALREADY DEAD!!!! IT’S LIKE WEEKEND AT BERNIE’S!!!!!!

And to quote my favorite Wonkette comment:

Dead or alive, I’m voting for her.

372
Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:31:28am
374
Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:33:02am

How long until the curtain rises on today’s Cirque du Trump? Gotta admire the way the little trouper plays his heart out for us each and every day.

375
Interesting Times  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:33:19am

re: #372 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, he’s right about the Overton Window shifting, and for the worse. That’s the lasting (if not permanent) damage done by Drumpf.

376
BeachDem  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:34:24am

re: #372 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

At least he learned how to spell analysis. Baby steps/

377
EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:36:43am

re: #369 Joe Bacon

I’m waiting for the day when someone will whack Barton on the head with a Bible.

Wouldn’t it be funny if that caused Barton to burst into flames as if he were a demon being sent back to his master in Hell?

378
Kragar  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:37:44am
379
nines09  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:37:45am

re: #370 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Outright revulsion has turned to “Unusual stand.” Treason is now “Unsettling statements.” When a sick woman can be compared to a burned down house and the crowd cheers, well, there’s something at work. The right wing hate machine blames the media and the gutless media rolls over. “Stand up? Make a stand? What do you think we are? Competent?”

380
TK-421  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:38:17am

Samoas are the best.
/thread

381
Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:38:28am

re: #374 Decatur Deb

How long until the curtain rises on today’s Cirque du Trump? Gotta admire the way the little trouper plays his heart out for us each and every day.

Never mind. A meatworld person tells me it’s in 20 minutes, out of beautiful Abingdon VA.

382
austin_blue  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:38:35am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Extremism in defense of stupidity is no virtue.

I believe you Win the Interwebs today!

383
EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:39:34am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Extremism in defense of stupidity is no virtue.

However, extremism in defense of stupidity is the GOP platform.

384
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:39:52am

re: #373 nines09

I’ve been to Falmouth many times, especially for the annual Wool Festival.
The city is fairly prone to flooding, but I’ve never thought much about the CSX railway going through the place.

385
Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:40:22am

re: #366 wrenchwench

I know your mouth is very close to your mind, but it really is a better place to put your cookies.

No matter what, they all end up on my mid-section.

386
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:41:33am

re: #379 nines09

Outright revulsion has turned to “Unusual stand.” Treason is now “Unsettling statements.” When a sick woman can be compared to a burned down house and the crowd cheers, well, there’s something at work. The right wing hate machine blames the media and the gutless media rolls over. “Stand up? Make a stand? What do you think we are? Competent?”

The sick part is how it is all justified and relativized and spun to make it seem less crazy than it truly is. And it is a net win for Trump, the discussion peters out in “What did he really mean? Was he joking? What’s wrong with the 2nd Amendment!” etc., and distracts us from the fact that the man has no coherent, implementable policies to guide our nation as Chief Executive and no record of public office to refer to.

387
Joe Bacon  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:42:02am

re: #374 Decatur Deb

How long until the curtain rises on today’s Cirque du Trump? Gotta admire the way the little trouper plays his heart out for us each and every day.

HER-I-cane Katrina is still spinning out of control on the cable channels!

388
wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:42:19am

re: #374 Decatur Deb

Gotta admire the way the little trouper plays his heart out for us each and every day.

I’m thinking so literally… not typing…

389
nines09  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:43:16am

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

Most don’t give thought to a rail line until it has one of these events.
Looks like one track to me. Right before a curve. By the river and underpass.

390
Joe Bacon  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:43:19am

re: #378 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I’m waiting for Greta to hook him up to an E-Meter!

391
jaunte  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:43:59am
392
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:46:07am

Wingnuts freaking out because Egyptian beach volleyball team does not display the maximum amount of skin, as required by male viewers of the sport.

393
nines09  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:46:53am

re: #386 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Jokes and the part they play.

Don’t know if you read this.

Humor and jokes are a bigger part of the social structure than most recognise. This gentleman points it out in detail.

Trump is one dangerous sociopath.

394
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:47:13am
395
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:48:48am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Which vision for women do you want? One where women are empowered underdressed or suppressed overdressed? East VS West. Choose correctly.

That is my take on it. I prefer the underdressed part, but that is just my subjective opinion.

396
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:49:57am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

Breaking: US Secret Svce has spoken to #Trump campaign re: 2nd Amendment comments, “more than one conversation” -USSS official tells me

He is making their job a lot more difficult and dangerous than it already is. They cannot let him get off without a serious talking to.

397
Jay C  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:50:51am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Which vision for women do you want? One where women are empowered or suppressed? East VS West. Choose correctly.

One that wins volleyball games?

398
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:50:54am

re: #395 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which vision for women do you want? One where women are empowered underdressed or suppressed overdressed? East VS West. Choose correctly.

That is my take on it. I prefer the underdressed part, but that is just my subjective opinion.

What do male beach volleyball players wear?

399
wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:51:17am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts freaking out because Egyptian beach volleyball team does not display the maximum amount of skin, as required by male viewers of the sport.

[Embedded content]

Empowerment is wearing what you want to, for the reasons you want to, and not caring about what other people think.

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makeitstop  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:53:18am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Let’s hope they put the fear of dog into him.

And let’s hope he’s nominally smart enough to hear what they told him.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2016 • 11:58:10am

re: #392 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts freaking out because Egyptian beach volleyball team does not display the maximum amount of skin, as required by male viewers of the sport.

But conservatives didn’t, and some still don’t, want women to vote in the US. A considerable body of evangelicals don’t want women to be ministers or to have equal authority in the home, etc.

So wingnuts sit down and shut up.

402
lawhawk  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:01:15pm

re: #398 The Vicious Babushka

Shorts and t-shirts or tank tops.

But there’s a fascination with women wearing bikinis at the beach volleyball, especially when they’re doing their hand signals. For instance

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

Men and women do the same hand signals hidden behind their backs to keep the other team from catching on. But they’ve gotta go with the titillation factor.

Mind you, the indoor volleyball attire is more restrained.

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VegasGolfer  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:10:30pm

re: #380 TK-421

Samoas are the best.
/thread

concur 100%

404
De Kolta Chair  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:25:35pm

re: #369 Joe Bacon

I’m waiting for the day when someone will whack Barton on the head with a Bible.

Oh yes, Snape style!

Youtube Poop: Snape hits Ron with a book for 10 minutes

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 10, 2016 • 12:30:09pm

re: #332 Romantic Heretic

I’ll have to politely disagree.

A nation with 4% of the world’s population and 20% of its economy doesn’t have the power to unilaterally impose its will on the world.

And I didn’t say the US had that power, nor did the US ever have that power. However there is no other nation on earth that can perform the function the US performs in the global system, nor is there any prospect of any other nation being able to do so in the foreseeable future.


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