Friday Night Jazz: René Marie: Tiny Desk Concert

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Wow. This is one of the most amazing and moving NPR Tiny Desk Concerts I’ve seen. Read the description below for the back story, then listen to this amazing band and singer.

July 27, 2016 by PATRICK JARENWATTANANON • The Colorado River — better known for running through majestic National Parks and powering hydroelectric dams — forms an unlikely backdrop for the creation of a jazz song. But René Marie was answering phones at Denver’s jazz radio station KUVO when she sat down across from a fellow volunteer fundraiser. He would soon invite her on a canoeing trip and, without yet having seen the eponymous river, she wrote the giddy “Colorado River Song” on the way there.

René Marie’s is the sort of voice which first comes to mind when someone asks for a jazz singer — big and expressive, at home in classic swinging settings and comfortable in crowds. There’s plenty to set her apart, though. She made her first recording in her early 40s, so she’s a late bloomer by any standard. Her tastes admit many influences, and she’s got a penchant for original songwriting, especially where social justice intersects with personal biography. Her folky story-song “This Is (Not) A Protest Song” addresses homelessness and mental illness even in her own family.

Joined by her Experiment In Truth band (John Chin on piano, Elias Bailey on bass, Quentin Baxter on drums), Marie visited NPR headquarters to play songs from her new album Sound Of Red. She never specified the exact nature of that synesthetic idea, though the title track would seem to indicate that it’s about the addictive and lusty blood-rush of performing — of seeing red while singing the blues. In the audience was the bold KUVO volunteer from that day 10 years ago. His name is Jesse, and they’re now married and live in her home state of Virginia; they drove up together for this Tiny Desk concert.

Sound Of Red is available now:
iTunes: itunes.apple.com
Amazon: amazon.com

Set List:
“Colorado River Song”
“This Is (Not) A Protest Song”
“Sound Of Red”

Credits:
Producers: Patrick Jarenwattananon, Niki Walker; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Claire Hannah Collins, Morgan McCloy; Editor: Kevin Chiu; PA: Sophie Kemp; Photo: Claire Harbage/NPR.

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freetoken  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:14:48pm

Downstairs I mistakenly wrote Okeanos was west of Wake, but apparently today they are east of Wake:

Camera 1: Okeanos Explorer: Deepwater Wonders of Wake

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freetoken  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:19:38pm

Don’t know when this was recorded, but UCTV just uploaded this:

The Future of the Republican Party — Up Next: Perspectives on the Future of Everything

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freetoken  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:21:52pm

The problem I have with that kind of discussion is the insistence that “white” and “Hispanic” are so well defined groups.

But that is an artificial division.

It’s certainly not based on biology.

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makeitstop  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:25:21pm

So, the wife and I made it out to Robert Moses State Park for our beach walk, uninterrupted by rain. The ocean was in a surly mood, and carved out a ‘shelf’ between beach and water. This happens fairly often on LI beaches, but I’ve never seen it to this degree.

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Interesting Times  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:26:57pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:28:21pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:28:45pm

re: #4 makeitstop

She wanted you to go. You went. And it looks very lovely! Tks for posting good things.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:30:22pm
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Belafon  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:30:58pm

A cold front came through the DFW area while I was on my way home work. When I started out from work, it was 105 on my car’s thermometer. By the time I got home, it was 93. It is now 82 degree outside; yesterday at this time it was 95.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:33:41pm
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makeitstop  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:33:55pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

She wanted you to go. You went. And it looks very lovely! Tks for posting good things.

The beaches of Long Island are indeed beautiful. We’re not the type to go out in the morning and hang on the beach all day, but we do enjoy running out and walking a few miles when we get the chance. The South Shore ocean beaches are the best, bt the North Shore beaches on the LI Sound are also nice, a lot more placid.

Downside: No dogs allowed on the Bobby Mo, so Scout had to stay home today. I think he’s still mad at us.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:36:22pm

re: #11 makeitstop

Of course he is. Oh well.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:39:28pm

Trump Campaign closes its New Jersey office.

nj.com

SECOND UPDATE: Trump’s New Jersey advisor and Nutley Township Commissioner Steve Rogers called an NJ Advance Media reporter shortly after 3 p.m. to say that “right now the focus is not on opening a headquarters, working on a door you can walk through. We’re going to see a ground campaign very shortly… it’s going to focus on getting the vote out. This is just the beginning, there’s no end here.”

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A Cranky One  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:40:57pm

Essential parenting skills:

boingboing.net

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:42:27pm
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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:48:36pm
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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:53:00pm

Even Bill Kristol gets it:

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freetoken  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:59:04pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 12, 2016 • 7:59:25pm

re: #17 Anymouse

Even Bill Kristol gets it:

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I sincerely wish that the exit polls show that Khizr Khan, his wife Ghazala, via his son causes this bullshit to end. END.

The gold star mother commercial helps.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:03:42pm
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Belafon  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:05:06pm

Have you wondered over to Balloon Juice to read the excerpt of the RuPaul interview? Here’s the part about Clinton:

… What do you think about Hillary Clinton and the Democrats?
[Laughs.] I fucking love them. I have always loved them. And let me just say this: If you’re a politician — not just in Washington but in business and industry, you have to be a politician — there are a lot of things that you have to do that you’re not proud of. There are a lot of compromises you have to make because it means that you can get this other thing over here. And if you think that you can go to fucking Washington and be rainbows and butterflies the whole time, you’re living in a fucking fantasy world. So now, having said that, think about what a female has to do with that: All of those compromises, all of that shit, double it by ten. And you get to understand who this woman is and how powerful, persuasive, brilliant, and resilient she is. Any female executive, anybody who has been put to the side — women, blacks, gays — for them to succeed in a white-male-dominated culture is an act of brilliance. Of resilience, of grit, of everything you can imagine. So, what do I think of Hillary? I think she’s fucking awesome. Is she in bed with Wall Street? Goddammit, I should hope so! You’ve got to dance with the devil. So which of the horrible people do you want? That’s more of the question. Do you want a pompous braggart who doesn’t know anything about diplomacy? Or do you want a badass bitch who knows how to get shit done? That’s really the question…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:12:40pm

re: #21 Belafon

Have you wondered over to Balloon Juice to read the excerpt of the RuPaul interview? Here’s the part about Clinton:

Perfect. (ETA that was not a HRC fan but have come over gradually, but this is a really powerful statement; and I love RuPaul.)

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:13:34pm

“Double it by ten”!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:19:03pm

re: #21 Belafon

I heard about the Variety interview, from a lizard. I did not read. I will now.

YEAH

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:23:48pm

Hi again Lizards.

I didn’t fall off the face of the planet.

I’m on the next orbit around the sun. Transiting new-old territory, as it were.

I won’t lie, the break was nice. All Trump all the time gets draining.

I got to see a loom.

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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:24:30pm

re: #21 Belafon

That’s pretty awesome. Quite astute, Ru. Quite astute, indeed.

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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:28:22pm

re: #25 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Draining is exactly right. I’m starting to ish for bad things to happen. Trump has managed to crank up my hate…towards him. This isn’t politics, it’s not even dirty politics. It’s dangerous rhetoric and nothing more. And he never stops. Draining? More like full exsanguination.

I’m actually going to enjoy my next three weeks of 30 hour days.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:30:10pm

re: #27 MsJ

Draining is exactly right. I’m starting to ish for bad things to happen. Trump has managed to crank up my hate…towards him. This isn’t politics, it’s not even dirty politics. It’s dangerous rhetoric and nothing more. And he never stops. Draining? More like full exsanguination.

I’m actually going to enjoy my next three weeks of 30 hour days.

I’m trying to moderate the amount of negative I’m surrounding myself with, to a level that I can counteract with the positive, because there’s enough stress and shit that I can’t get away from that has to take priority.

Also I had to make word count in Vegas before my birthday, and then it was my birthday and there was a needlework store I’d never been to. I wasn’t sitting on the Internet for that.

This week my excuse is just avoiding much of the Internet.

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:30:58pm
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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:40:58pm

re: #28 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m trying to moderate the amount of negative I’m surrounding myself with, to a level that I can counteract with the positive, because there’s enough stress and shit that I can’t get away from that has to take priority.

Also I had to make word count in Vegas before my birthday, and then it was my birthday and there was a needlework store I’d never been to. I wasn’t sitting on the Internet for that.

This week my excuse is just avoiding much of the Internet.

I try to catchup on what is going on but it’s just maddening. There is so much hatred in our country it’s disgusting. And trump encourages more.

Fox and Rush divide people so wingnuts have fever pitch hate towards anything they thinks whiffs of liberal. I saw a guy call The older Obama girl a ****, bitch, trash…and that was the nice stuff, because she smoked some weed. How can someone hate a kid like that? Any kid? It almost made me cry.

So it’s apparently working. I hate trump. I hate fox. I hate rush. And I hate all the before and after comers because of the lies and divisiveness. I’m not a hateful person, but what I’m feeling these days is so severe it is down to my core.

Like I said, this isn’t politics. This is burn the country down. Murdoch was directly responsible for older people voting Brexit. He is actively burning down country by country.

Worse, I don’t get the endgame. At all.

It’s infuriating.

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:42:03pm

Because it’s not just about the medals…

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A Cranky One  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:44:22pm

re: #25 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hi again Lizards.

I didn’t fall off the face of the planet.

I’m on the next orbit around the sun. Transiting new-old territory, as it were.

I won’t lie, the break was nice. All Trump all the time gets draining.

I got to see a loom.

Hope you weren’t seduced by the dark side.

Dark Side of the Loom
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scottslemmons  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:44:23pm

re: #30 MsJ

Like I said, this isn’t politics. This is burn the country down. Murdoch was directly responsible for older people voting Brexit. He is actively burning down country by country.

Worse, I don’t get the endgame. At all.

It’s infuriating.

The endgame for nihilists is blowing everything up.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:45:53pm

re: #33 scottslemmons

The endgame for nihilists is blowing everything up.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:46:42pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:52:28pm

re: #32 A Cranky One

That would make a great T-shirt

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:53:58pm

re: #32 A Cranky One

That’s a nicely done gray/color filter.

It is tempting, but looms are big.

And I may have bought another pile of patterns at the needlework store.

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freetoken  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:54:42pm

Past several days I’ve been commenting on the turmoil in Indian society regarding conflicts over cows.

Cow vigilante groups are protected by govts in BJP ruled states: Manish Sisodia

Criticising the RSS for “favouring” cow vigilante groups, Delhi Deputy Chief Minister Manish Sisodia on Friday alleged such groups are being protected by the governments in BJP ruled states.

“In the name of gau raksha these people (RSS) are spreading terror on the marginalised sections of the society. It is unfortunate that the vigilante groups are being protected by the BJP governments,” he said.

[…]

Q&A: ‘Cow vigilantes run extortion rackets’

Gau-raksha vigilante groups have attacked Dalits and Muslims in various parts of the country but their actions are also hurting the economy. After PM Modi’s call for a crackdown on self-proclaimed cow vigilante groups, Progressive Dairy Farmers Association Punjab President Daljit Singh, who has been opposing such groups, spoke to IP Singh on how their illegal actions have adversely affected the trade, farmers and Punjab’s economy.

[…]

As I linked before, some of the cow vigilantes are becoming quite violent, beating Dalits.

Anyway, here is the problem: the BJP, the largest political party, is sectarian. Hindu by design, non Hindus feel that the BJP doesn’t look out for them as they do Hindus.

This is what the religious right in this country ignores and what demagogues like Drumpfskind, Huckster, and the rest refuse to acknowledge - that religious sectarian approaches to politics lead to conflict.

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calochortus  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:56:23pm

re: #37 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s a nicely done gray/color filter.

It is tempting, but looms are big.

And I may have bought another pile of patterns at the needlework store.

There are folding looms. Just sayin’…

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A Cranky One  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:56:37pm

re: #37 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s a nicely done gray/color filter.

It is tempting, but looms are big.

And I may have bought another pile of patterns at the needlework store.

Don’t you hate it when you go window shopping and stuff just accidentally falls into the shopping cart?

;)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:57:31pm

re: #39 calochortus

There are folding looms. Just sayin’…

Stop enabling. You did enough this week. =P

re: #40 A Cranky One

Don’t you hate it when you go window shopping and stuff just accidentally falls into the shopping cart?

;)

It’s not my fault they had a bunch of rare/out-of-print patterns by my favorite designer…

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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:58:18pm

re: #33 scottslemmons

The endgame for nihilists is blowing everything up.

I get that for some people. But Murdoch is a business man who loves money. You’d think fucking up a country wouldn’t be good for money.

But what do I know?

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calochortus  Aug 12, 2016 • 8:59:07pm

re: #41 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Stop enabling. You did enough this week. =

Bwahahahahaha!

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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:00:35pm

re: #38 freetoken

They always think they’ll win. I think many of our RR want that religious war. They ignore how less and less religious our country is becoming - and their own roles in making it so.

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calochortus  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:03:10pm

re: #44 MsJ

They always think they’ll win. I think many of our RR want that religious war. They ignore how less and less religious our country is becoming - and their own roles in making it so.

Actually, I think it may be because the country is becoming less religious. They feel embattled.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:03:10pm

Stitching and watching the women’s all-around final from gymnastics, because I have been behind. Thank goodness for a) my parents’ cable and b) NBC’s full replays online.

I’m thinking I’ll catch some of the swimming highlights from the past week next.

Maybe then some track stuff? I’m open to recommendations.

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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:07:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:08:01pm

Get a load of this one. These people are disturbingly unhinged.

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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:10:06pm

re: #45 calochortus

Actually, I think it may be because the country is becoming less religious. They feel embattled.

I agree. But I also think they don’t realize what they are doing drives people from religion. The priest sec scandal didn’t help. Kids don’t buy into the gays are evil BS. Most know and like gay peeps.

It’s like every single thing they do goes against what they say they want. Except for a holy war.

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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:11:29pm

re: #46 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Stitching and watching the women’s all-around final from gymnastics, because I have been behind. Thank goodness for a) my parents’ cable and b) NBC’s full replays online.

I’m thinking I’ll catch some of the swimming highlights from the past week next.

Maybe then some track stuff? I’m open to recommendations.

The beach volleyball has been great. Those two person teams blow me away. I’ve been enjoying the heck out of that.

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calochortus  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:12:01pm

re: #49 MsJ

They don’t seem to realize that having a State Religion tends to make people more secular.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:13:26pm

re: #46 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m open to recommendations.

Is ‘monkey knife fights’ still an Olympic event?

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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:13:46pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:14:06pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Is ‘monkey knife fights’ still an Olympic event?

American politics doesn’t seem to have made it in, no.

Ping pong is, but I have some standards.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:15:34pm
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MsJ  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:18:33pm

This is so sweet. I love when people don’t suck.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:19:28pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I’m not sure if the Internet is a net positive or net negative for humanity.

In the plus column it has made knowledge available to anyone with a computer or cell phone connexion from anywhere in the world.

In the minus column it allows all sorts of propagandists and conspiracy theorists a much larger platform.

Search engines are not yet capable of weeding out the latter, so such information gets treated equally.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:20:26pm

re: #57 Anymouse

I met my husband on the Internet.

I’m in the positive column.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:20:26pm

re: #54 klys (maker of Silmarils)

American politics doesn’t seem to have made it in, no.

Touché.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:21:17pm

I read the stuff Republicans are doing, and while it makes me somewhat angry, I don’t internalize it. I don’t take it personally because it’s not. Oh, it needs to be combated and defeated, but allowing it to get you angry makes it harder to make the kind of rational decisions that need to be made to defeat it.

This is very similar to the “fatherly advice” I give to the new dads around me: Don’t take it personally. When you do, you can no longer make a good decision: You’ll either go soft when you need to be stern, or you’ll overreact when you just need to let things play out.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:21:24pm
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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:23:13pm

First Capitol Hill Republican openly endorses Hillary Clinton.

thedailystar.com

Those familiar with free-wheeling Rep. Richard Hanna, R-Barneveld, were less than shocked.

For nearly six years that the Oneida County native has held his seat, Hanna, 65, has been a moderate maverick unafraid to break Republican ranks. He has supported abortion rights and civil protections for gays, lesbians and transgendered people.

Hanna distanced himself from the GOP presidential nominee, Donald Trump, early in the presidential primary season. But for Hanna, the last straw came last week when the New York City real estate developer was publicly feuding with the Gold Star parents of an American Muslim soldier killed in Iraq in 2004.

More at the Daily Star linked above

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:23:44pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I met my husband on the Internet.

I’m in the positive column.

I met my wife on the Internet too. So we can shut it down now.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:24:49pm

re: #63 Anymouse

I met my wife on the Internet too. So we can shut it down now.

I’ve still got two siblings who might want to get married. Internet seems the most likely bet.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:25:19pm

re: #57 Anymouse

I’m not sure if the Internet is a net positive or net negative for humanity.

Yes. No.

It’s allowed the lunatics to find each other. But it’s also allowed me to fix my car, and my son to begin learning about Raspberry Pi. And I get to waste a whole lot of time on LGF. So, maybe that last one is a bit questionable on it’s value.

And I also met my spouse on the internet.

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Interesting Times  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:26:33pm

Er…I’m a web developer. If it weren’t for the Internet, I (along with millions upon millions of other people) wouldn’t have a job.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:27:38pm

re: #65 Belafon

Yes. No.

It’s allowed the lunatics to find each other. But it’s also allowed me to fix my car, and my son to begin learning about Raspberry Pi. And I get to waste a whole lot of time on LGF. So, maybe that last one is a bit questionable on it’s value.

And I also met my spouse on the internet.

The LGF Lonely Hearts Club? /s

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:28:29pm

If it weren’t for the internet I would have never found that two-lane highway from Austin to Denver so I could see the real America.

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calochortus  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:30:55pm

I’m going to wind down for the evening (also watching the Great British Baking Show finale) so I’ll say good night. Hasta mañana all.

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sagehen  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:31:39pm

re: #42 MsJ

I get that for some people. But Murdoch is a business man who loves money. You’d think fucking up a country wouldn’t be good for money.

But what do I know?

At his age, “in the long run” is a matter of months.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:34:25pm

re: #57 Anymouse

I’m not sure if the Internet is a net positive or net negative for humanity.

In the plus column it has made knowledge available to anyone with a computer or cell phone connexion from anywhere in the world.

In the minus column it allows all sorts of propagandists and conspiracy theorists a much larger platform.

Search engines are not yet capable of weeding out the latter, so such information gets treated equally.

It’s made some knowledge available. But people are always asking: “Link?” for any information now, and 99.9% of what I’ve read in my life is, as they say, “hidden in books”. To comply with their request, I’d have to remember what book the info came from, which library it came from (could be one of three or four systems), find it on the online catalog, go there, find the book (assuming they still have it and it’s checked in), find the passage, make a photocopy, bring it home, scan it, make a screenshot, then…I dunno, I probably don’t have their email address, I’m not on Twitter or Fakebook…what do I do with it?

My point is, everything I know from before 2000 or so has dropped off the face of the Earth. It’s not on the internet and never will be. The internet has chopped off most of human history.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:35:00pm

Judge overturns murder conviction of Brendan Dassey, from “Making a Murderer” fame.

huffingtonpost.com;

Dassey is the nephew of Steven Avery, a Wisconsin man who was wrongfully convicted of sexual assault and eventually exonerated — only to be convicted of murder years later under suspicious circumstances.

Police obtained what they said was a confession from Dassey, and that formed the basis of much of the prosecution’s case against Avery. At one point in the documentary, Ken Kratz, the prosecutor in the Halbach murder case, describes a supposed timeline of the murder in upsetting detail, and it’s implied that much of the information in that timeline came from Dassey’s detailed account. But in the tape of the actual police interview with Dassey, it looks less like a detailed confession and much more like coercion.

At the time of the interview, Dassey was 16 and did not have an attorney or a parent present. According to court records, Dassey has an IQ of somewhere between 69 and 73 — an IQ of 70 is often considered the threshold for intellectual disability — and the tape shows police posing detailed questions to Dassey, who replies with short, often one-word answers.

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scottslemmons  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:35:52pm

I’ve met a lot of my best friends online. I’ve never met them in person because they live at opposite ends of the country. My life would be immeasurably worse without the Internet. Massive net positive.

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Jenner7  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:36:05pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Me too. 20 year anniversary next June.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:38:13pm

re: #73 scottslemmons

I’ve met a lot of my best friends online. I’ve never met them in person because they live at opposite ends of the country. My life would be immeasurably worse without the Internet. Massive net positive.

I guess I am just an oldz. My best friends I know in person.

Not knocking the people I have become acquainted with on the Internet, but I categorise them as “close acquaintances.” My Internet acquaintances can’t come borrow my lawn mower for a month, for example. /s

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:39:55pm

Just y’all wait…. Trump’s “ground game” will be to get “second amendment people” to “guard” the voting booths and watch out for cheaters. Especially in places where THOSE PEOPLE might cheat.

Edit: Shit, hadn’t even seen #61 yet. I’m psychic, or he’s a predictable asshole.

So we’ve got the go-ahead from Leader Drumpf to torture, try civilians in military courts, rough people up at rallies, and now patrol polling places, probably with weapons (which is illegal even here in TX, by the way).

Can we call him a Fascist yet? Can’t wait for the Both Sides Do It explanation for this one.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:41:55pm

re: #76 Pawn of the Oppressor

Just y’all wait…. Trump’s “ground game” will be to get “second amendment people” to “guard” the voting booths and watch out for cheaters. Especially in places where THOSE PEOPLE might cheat.

Perhaps we can get the guy from “Cards against Humanity” to send Mr. Trump a barrel of sex lube (as he did with the Talibanjo in Oregon) to lubricate the guns… .

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whitebeach  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:43:17pm

re: #68 teleskiguy

If it weren’t for the internet I would have never found that two-lane highway from Austin to Denver so I could see the real America.

As much as I’d like to dream differently, I don’t think there’s been any two-lane highway that leads to the “real America” since sometime in the early 70s.

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freetoken  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:43:44pm

re: #69 calochortus

I’m going to wind down for the evening (also watching the Great British Baking Show finale) so I’ll say good night. Hasta mañana all.

I thought the new season doesn’t start until the 24th??

thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:44:54pm

re: #75 Anymouse

I guess I am just an oldz. My best friends I know in person.

Not knocking the people I have become acquainted with on the Internet, but I categorise them as “close acquaintances.” My Internet acquaintances can’t come borrow my lawn mower for a month, for example. /s

Does your wife know that she can’t borrow the lawn mower?

/duck

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:45:18pm

re: #78 whitebeach

As much as I’d like to dream differently, I don’t think there’s been any two-lane highway that leads to the “real America” since sometime in the early 70s.

I live in Real America, whatever that is. We have a two-lane highway through town and a bunch of dirt roads and streets.

Most of our vacation trip was spent travelling two lane roads.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:47:53pm

Interesting, I didn’t know this but the Republicans signed a consent decree after being sued by the DNC in 1982 for voter intimidation. It’s set to expire next year but what Trump is attempting to organize here may be seen as a flagrant violation that could extend enforcement for another eight years. The Republicans have been trying to get out from under the agreement but the courts refused to allow them, now it looks like Trump may well fuck them over for another two election cycles. That’s eight more years of ongoing demographic shift in a future environment where the GOP will have earned the everlasting enmity of the very minority voters the decree keeps them from challenging.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:50:15pm

re: #78 whitebeach

As much as I’d like to dream differently, I don’t think there’s been any two-lane highway that leads to the “real America” since sometime in the early 70s.

Yeah, I know. And I was exaggerating. Slightly. I still drove a couple hundred miles across the state of Texas on a two lane highway, thanks to the internet and my iPhone!

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 9:52:40pm

BEES

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:02:23pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

I hope the DNC is looking into this, if what the blogger says is true… .

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:04:07pm

It will be fun to watch vultures like Cruz and Gingrich fight over the rotting carrion of the Republican Party after election day.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:07:09pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:07:25pm

re: #86 Shiplord Kirel

It will be fun to watch vultures like Cruz and Gingrich fight over the rotting carrion of the Republican Party after election day.

The Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs and Gingrich will start the No-Tax Party and Cruz will start the Party of God.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:12:40pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

The Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs and Gingrich will start the No-Tax Party and Cruz will start the Party of God.

Cruz could use the terror group Army of God as his enforcers.

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whitebeach  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:13:25pm

re: #81 Anymouse

I live in Real America, whatever that is. We have a two-lane highway through town and a bunch of dirt roads and streets.

Kind of my point, which was meant a little ironically (not sarcastically, word of the day). Statistically a huge majority of Americans don’t live in towns accessed only by a two-lane road and replete with dirt streets. I’m not knocking where you live. I’m just saying that, for good or ill, most of America doesn’t live in that environment anymore. Plus, if you want to go that way, I think my current rural would give yours a serious challenge.

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Jenner7  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:13:46pm

This is what you call a sore loser.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:14:37pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

The Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs and Gingrich will start the No-Tax Party and Cruz will start the Party of God.

I would love to see Trump finish third in the popular vote. It’s unlikely, of course, but not impossible if Johnson can do as well as Perot did in ‘92. Combined with a Clinton blowout, that could make the split something like 61-20-19. Unfortunately there is almost no chance he can snag any electoral votes.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:15:26pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

Interesting, I didn’t know this but the Republicans signed a consent decree after being sued by the DNC in 1982 for voter intimidation. It’s set to expire next year but what Trump is attempting to organize here may be seen as a flagrant violation that could extend enforcement for another eight years. The Republicans have been trying to get out from under the agreement but the courts refused to allow them, now it looks like Trump may well fuck them over for another two election cycles. That’s eight more years of ongoing demographic shift in a future environment where the GOP will have earned the everlasting enmity of the very minority voters the decree keeps them from challenging.

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That’s all well and good, but even if the RNC wanted to stop these vigilantes, how would they do it? Voter intimidation by armed Trumporrhoids is going to be a feature at thousands of polling places nationwide, with probably dozens of mass shootings. The DNC may sue afterwards, but will a Trump administration DoJ do anything about it?

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:19:24pm

re: #90 whitebeach

Kind of my point, which was meant a little ironically (not sarcastically, word of the day). Statistically a huge majority of Americans don’t live in towns accessed only by a two-lane road and replete with dirt streets. I’m not knocking where you live. I’m just saying that, for good or ill, most of America doesn’t live in that environment anymore. Plus, if you want to go that way, I think my current rural would give yours a serious challenge.

I’m not sure where your current rural is.

My town has 128 people. In each direction:
East - next town sixteen miles, 68 people (Lisco, also where my bank is)
West - next town sixteen miles, 1,000 people (Bridgeport, county seat)
South - next town twenty-two miles (Dalton, over dirt roads), three hundred people
North - next town sixty miles (over dirt roads, Alliance)

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:19:52pm

re: #71 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My point is, everything I know from before 2000 or so has dropped off the face of the Earth. It’s not on the internet and never will be. The internet has chopped off most of human history.

I had never heard of Emmy Noether and Margaret Hamilton until the web made everything easier to access, and I doubt I ever would have heard of them without the web, and I read a lot of stuff. And being someone who likes math and science, and being a software engineer, I should have heard of them sooner.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:21:53pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:22:41pm

The important part is that rural folks* are not the majority they would like to think they are when they look at the electoral districts map and see all that big red space.

* Typical disclaimer applies, if you’re not posting maps of the electoral districts and how they voted I don’t mean you. Also if you aren’t blabbing about real America.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:26:04pm

re: #97 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The important part is that rural folks* are not the majority they would like to think they are when they look at the electoral districts map and see all that big red space.

* Typical disclaimer applies, if you’re not posting maps of the electoral districts and how they voted I don’t mean you. Also if you aren’t blabbing about real America.

Yup. Square miles do not equal electoral votes.

I’ll still work to try and flip my district blue though. Even if it mostly has tumbleweeds, corn, and cattle (in no particular order)

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Lidane  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:26:38pm

This is fantastic. Billy West’s best one yet:

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:27:49pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:27:50pm

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel

I would love to see Trump finish third in the popular vote. It’s unlikely, of course, but not impossible if Johnson can do as well as Perot did in ‘92. Combined with a Clinton blowout, that could make the split something like 61-20-19. Unfortunately there is almost no chance he can snag any electoral votes.

I want to see a 1984-style rout. I was only two years old at that time, so I don’t remember. It’d be nice to see a solid-blue map on the TV news.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:31:16pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

I want to see a 1984-style rout. I was only two years old at that time, so I don’t remember. It’d be nice to see a solid-blue map on the TV news.

I want to see a 1984 style rout as well. Except with the colours reversed.

Same as 1980 (my first election).

I was darn proud (and still am) of casting my vote by mail from an aircraft carrier for Jimmy Carter, and it appears that the Reagan presidency vindicated that vote.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:32:41pm

re: #91 Jenner7

She is only reflecting the United States America “Fuck Yeah” “We Are The Best By Default” attitude that too many United States citizens have at this point in time. I’m not surprised.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:34:16pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:34:22pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

She is only reflecting the United States America “Fuck Yeah” “We Are The Best By Default” attitude that too many United States citizens have at this point in time. I’m not surprised.

Also, she’s a competitive athlete who just lost a major game and had a microphone shoved in her face.

I don’t necessarily think it’s what I would say or what I would want to hear someone say, but I can understand that being gracious in defeat is actually not easy for most competitive people. Because they’re competitive and losing stings.

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retired cynic  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:35:32pm

re: #105 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think she needs to train in Competitive Losing for a while. Then try it again.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:36:55pm

re: #106 retired cynic

I think she needs to train in Competitive Losing for a while. Then try it again.

Or retire. Or anger management classes, because she’s definitely had some issues with that in her personal life.

/shrug

On the scale of things I’m going to get worked up about, she doesn’t register.

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whitebeach  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:37:21pm

re: #94 Anymouse

I’m not sure where your current rural is.

My town has 128 people. In each direction:
East - next town sixteen miles, 68 people (Lisco, also where my bank is)
West - next town sixteen miles, 1,000 people (Bridgeport, county seat)
South - next town twenty-two miles (Dalton, over dirt roads), three hundred people
North - next town sixty miles (over dirt roads, Alliance)

I don’t live in a town at all these days. If there are 128 people in a two mile radius I’d be surprised. The “town” to which my mail is addressed is 15 miles away and consists mainly of the post office. I’m probably closer to a medium-sized metro area than you are, maybe 50 minutes, but then again, that’s kinda my point.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:37:39pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:37:48pm

I like to represent my home as an isolated rural compound but in fact I am just half a mile from an interstate highway and suburban Fort Worth is just a few minutes away.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:38:16pm

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel

I like to represent my home as an isolated rural compound but in fact I am just half a mile from an interstate highway and suburban Fort Worth is just a few minutes away.

Yeah, but do you want to know most of your neighbors anyway?

/

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:39:06pm

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel

I like to represent my home as an isolated rural compound but in fact I am just half a mile from an interstate highway and suburban Fort Worth is just a few minutes away.

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Lidane  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:39:55pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:40:26pm

I never thought that I’d be further from an interstate highway than Shiplord Kirel, but I guess I am. Life is funny.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:41:05pm

re: #114 teleskiguy

I never thought that I’d be further from an interstate highway than Shiplord Kirel, but I guess I am. Life is funny.

I’m pretty sure I am.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:43:19pm

re: #114 teleskiguy

I never thought that I’d be further from an interstate highway than Shiplord Kirel, but I guess I am. Life is funny.

Two and a half miles and then BAM Interstate 70. Drive east 25 miles and there’s world-class ski resorts. I could do a lot worse …

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:44:50pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

Two and a half miles and then BAM Interstate 70. Drive east 35 miles and there’s world-class ski resorts. I could do a lot worse …

Straight line is 2.65 miles to the nearest Interstate.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:45:03pm

re: #114 teleskiguy

I never thought that I’d be further from an interstate highway than Shiplord Kirel, but I guess I am. Life is funny.

I am sixty miles from an Interstate highway. I am even sixty miles from a Wal*Mart. Now that’s rural. /s

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whitebeach  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:45:15pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

She is only reflecting the United States America “Fuck Yeah” “We Are The Best By Default” attitude that too many United States citizens have at this point in time. I’m not surprised.

I dunno, ski. You’re a competitive sports guy, so was I for lots of years. Did you ever trash a winning opponent in that way, no matter how the loss hurt? I know I didn’t. Her words have made me lose a lot of the great respect I had for her.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:46:21pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:46:36pm

re: #118 Anymouse

I am sixty miles from an Interstate highway. I am even sixty miles from a Wal*Mart. Now that’s rural. /s

Nearest Wal-Mart from me is 26 miles east and west.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:46:39pm

Kind of an inside joke, but WTH…

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:47:47pm

re: #119 whitebeach

It would seem she is complaining about the strategy the Swedish team used to win.

Would a strategy to lose be better?

I am not a sportsball fan, but it would seem to me that the Swedes picked a winning strategy. The American team simply did not have a counter-strategy to defeat it. That does not make the Swedish team “cowards.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:49:49pm

Women gymnasts definitely make fine fitness goals.

Minus the part with the balance beam.

And the uneven bars.

And the tumbling.

And the vaulting.

But in terms of a healthy body image I could do a hell of a lot worse.

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Cheechako  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:50:10pm

Try living in a land-locked city. Took the wife out for dinner tonight. For entertainment we drove downtown to check out the cruise ships. All of 10 miles. But it was on a 4 lane, divided highway. All together we have about 70 miles of primary roads in the Borough. Since I’m retired and don’t drive to work anymore, I fill up the truck about every 6 weeks.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:50:21pm

re: #119 whitebeach

I never trashed my opponent like that, ever, in all my sports endeavors. I wrestled, I ran cross-country, I was a good hurdle-er in track during high school, and I’ve raced a bunch on skis. This shit is fucked, stupid, and detrimental to sports people in America. I stand by my comments of her being a fuck.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:54:15pm

re: #124 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Women gymnasts definitely make fine fitness goals.

Minus the part with the balance beam.

And the uneven bars.

And the tumbling.

And the vaulting.

But in terms of a healthy body image I could do a hell of a lot worse.

One math class I had in high school, one of the girls would come in straight from gym class doubled over from being whacked in the stomach by the lower parallel bar. The women’s events are murder!

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:55:23pm

re: #93 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s all well and good, but even if the RNC wanted to stop these vigilantes, how would they do it? Voter intimidation by armed Trumporrhoids is going to be a feature at thousands of polling places nationwide, with probably dozens of mass shootings. The DNC may sue afterwards, but will a Trump administration DoJ do anything about it?

The DOJ wouldn’t be involved. It’s an established consent decree in a civil case between two private parties (DNC & RNC) already assigned to a specific court for oversight and enforcement.

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:56:14pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hmm, to an actual I interstate highway? About 90 miles west of here. Lots of two lane and a four lane state highway about 20 miles either west or south but the nearest on ramp to an interstate is I-35 in Minnesota.

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retired cynic  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:56:23pm

re: #127 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It was the balance beam that killed me. I couldn’t even walk it without falling off.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:56:36pm

re: #127 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One math class I had in high school, one of the girls would come in straight from gym class doubled over from being whacked in the stomach by the lower parallel bar. The women’s events are murder!

I did some when I was younger. Not serious. I had no flexibility, hit my growth spurt young, and was …not athletic to put it mildly.

That shit is intense.

But as I’m focusing on fitness goals and trying to reset to a healthier body image compared to the typical standard promoted by our media, they’re excellent role models.

I should probably check out the track and field ladies too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:57:33pm

re: #130 retired cynic

It was the balance beam that killed me. I couldn’t even walk it without falling off.

Oh, I know—it gives me the heebie-jeebies just thinking about it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:58:16pm

re: #129 William Lewis

Hmm, to an actual I interstate highway? About 90 miles west of here. Lots of two lane and a four lane state highway about 20 miles either west or south but the nearest on ramp to an interstate is I-35 in Minnesota.

If we’re doing highways I’m much closer than that. I run along a 6 lane one on one of my running routes, underneath another on a different one.

I also don’t even remotely claim to be rural.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:58:17pm

re: #93 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s all well and good, but even if the RNC wanted to stop these vigilantes, how would they do it?

By condemning Trump’s plans and distancing themselves from his candidacy. Unfortunately for them they won’t do this because they’re in a death pact together, they nominated him and they’re sticking it out. So they’ll end up owning the entire bag of shit he leaves for them after November, including his plans to flagrantly violate the terms of the decree.

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retired cynic  Aug 12, 2016 • 10:59:28pm

re: #132 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Actually, I couldn’t tumble or run or … I wasn’t athletic. I could walk, though! Stood me in good stead in marching band and walking between classes at a big university campus! But that was pretty well it!

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whitebeach  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:02:14pm

re: #123 Anymouse

It would seem she is complaining about the strategy the Swedish team used to win.

Would a strategy to lose be better?

I am not a sportsball fan, but it would seem to me that the Swedes picked a winning strategy. The American team simply did not have a counter-strategy to defeat it. That does not make the Swedish team “cowards.”

Exactly.

It reminds me of the people who used to call the VC “cowards” because they wouldn’t come out and sacrifice themselves to fields of artillery and aerial bombardment, preferring instead to win the war for their country.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:05:17pm

re: #135 retired cynic

Actually, I couldn’t tumble or run or … I wasn’t athletic. I could walk, though! Stood me in good stead in marching band and walking between classes at a big university campus! But that was pretty well it!

The men’s events—OK, they’re stronger and more coordinated than I am, but I understand what they’re doing. Being almost innocent of a sense of balance, though—I just can’t comprehend how the women do what they do.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:05:36pm

re: #136 whitebeach

Exactly.

It reminds me of the people who used to call the VC “cowards” because they wouldn’t come out and sacrifice themselves to fields of artillery and aerial bombardment, preferring instead to win the war for their country.

I believe the American revolutionaries used similar tactics to the Viet Cong (use the terrain and foliage to your advantage). That doesn’t seem particularly cowardly to me, it seems smart.

I dunno, though, I’m just a librul anti-patriot or something.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:07:35pm

detailed study finds trump voters not particularly disadvantaged or impacted by globalization, but rather live in places where youth have few opportunities to advance and where there is very little ethnic diversity, and also that they are from areas where early mortality because of poor health habits is high

washingtonpost.com

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:08:26pm

re: #138 Anymouse

I believe the American revolutionaries used similar tactics to the Viet Cong (use the terrain and foliage to your advantage). That doesn’t seem particularly cowardly to me, it seems smart.

I dunno, though, I’m just a librul anti-patriot or something.

i recall that we noted this at the time

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:09:24pm

Does no cell service count as rural?

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retired cynic  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:10:34pm

re: #141 Anymouse

Does no cell service count as rural?

Close enough.

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whitebeach  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:12:00pm

re: #141 Anymouse

Does no cell service count as rural?

Fuck that, my land line only works about a third of the time.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:14:45pm

wonkette.com

Minnesota Republicans chose a real winner in their primary for Minnesota’s Second District: a former talk-show host, Jason Lewis, who among other achievements founded a social network for Ayn Rand fans, argued that the federal government probably couldn’t legally outlaw slavery, thinks young women are too dumb to vote, and worries white Americans are on the road to extinction because they aren’t making enough babies. The district tends to vote Democratic, so Democrats who dream of taking back the House of Representatives are no doubt trying to suppress their grins.

Let’s just review some of Lewis’s greatest hits, shall we?

(it goes into detail of Mr. Lewis’s life and career - whoo boy)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:22:11pm

re: #134 goddamnedfrank

By condemning Trump’s plans and distancing themselves from his candidacy. Unfortunately for them they won’t do this because they’re in a death pact together, they nominated him and they’re sticking it out. So they’ll end up owning the entire bag of shit he leaves for them after November, including his plans to flagrantly violate the terms of the decree.

i’d like to light it on fire and leave in ryan’s doorstoop

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retired cynic  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:29:57pm

re: #145 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i’d like to light it on fire and leave in ryan’s doorstoop

Damp.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:31:22pm

re: #145 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i’d like to light it on fire and leave in ryan’s doorstoop

This is close:

An Open Letter to Paul Ryan

This last line, though:

Mr. Speaker, do not let your pride or party loyalty put us all at risk. As the most important Republican out there, you must condemn Trump and withdraw your endorsement of him.

If Eddie Munster is the most important Republican out there, it’s time to shut the whole thing down.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:31:32pm

And yet though Senators Ryan and McCain said Mr. Trump’s statements about the Khan family do not represent the values of the GOP, they will neither un-endorse him, or even take the position of condemning the statement.

Weasels.

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retired cynic  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:38:17pm

re: #148 Anymouse

That’s unfair to the weasel family. My friend has a lovely ferret, and he is a real comfort to her. No one ever said that about those two.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:40:00pm

msn.com

Carly Fiorina laying groundwork to become chairwoman of the RNC. That ought to work out well for them.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:49:17pm

re: #138 Anymouse

I believe the American revolutionaries used similar tactics to the Viet Cong (use the terrain and foliage to your advantage). That doesn’t seem particularly cowardly to me, it seems smart.

I dunno, though, I’m just a librul anti-patriot or something.

Vo Nguyen Giap, commander of the NVA, was very well-read on American Revolutionary War tactics. He’d read several books on the subject written by military historians.

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Anymouse  Aug 12, 2016 • 11:55:47pm

I do hope that women will save us men by applying a XIX Amendment solution to Trump’s candidacy.

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teleskiguy  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:02:15am

This Frank Zappa synclavier piece has been growing on me. No build up, no let down, it’s just FZ going nuts at his own pace. The first time I heard this (years ago) I thought it was silly and unintelligible. Well, FZ is the man. And even in death he *bleeds* weird shit across all Rock ‘n’ Roll.

Night School

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Anymouse  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:05:58am

re: #153 teleskiguy

It’s a bit like the “hold” music the Cheyenne VA uses on phone calls… .

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teleskiguy  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:09:16am

re: #154 Anymouse

It’s a bit like the “hold” music the Cheyenne VA uses on phone calls… .

Except more engaging and uplifting! Or sure signs of impending doom.

Try this on for size:

The Girl In The Magnesium Dress

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Anymouse  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:12:15am

My favourite Zappa album is his resurrection of the little-known baroque musician Francesco Zappa (he is real, unlike PDQ Bach), I have worn out more than one LP of The Music of Francesco Zappa:

Frank Zappa & The Barking Pumpkin Digital Gratification Consort - Francesco Zappa

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Anymouse  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:21:19am

Perhaps women could do what was done in Iceland some forty years ago and go on a one day strike (which paralysed the country and forced it to acknowledge that women are in fact critical to society and equal to men):

bbc.com

Banks, factories, schools, &c were forced to close for the day due to lack of employees and daycare for children.

The result was the victory of the first woman elected head of state.

When Ronald Reagan became the US President, one small boy in Iceland was outraged. “He can’t be a president - he’s a man!” he exclaimed to his mother when he saw the news on the television.

It was November 1980, and Vigdis Finnbogadottir, a divorced single mother, had won Iceland’s presidency that summer. The boy didn’t know it, but Vigdis (all Icelanders go by their first name) was Europe’s first female president, and the first woman in the world to be democratically elected as a head of state.

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Anymouse  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:30:43am

G’night, all y’all. I’m off to bed. Have to catch up on the village budget meeting I missed tomorrow because I was playing hookey in Canada during the budget workshop.

I do know my press for higher wages for the village maintenance mechanic, public library director, and village clerk were approved at the last village board meeting I attended. Have to read the document to see what they cut for that.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:43:28am

re: #111 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, but do you want to know most of your neighbors anyway?

/

Good polnt. I already know too much about some of them. One of them is a former Olympian who has gone full bore white supremacist in his old age. There is a Walton heir just up the road and, perhaps worse, the quack preacher David Barton and his loathesome wall builders organization are close by as well.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:01:06am

Rest in peace, Thom Steinbeck. He was an accomplished writer in his own right, a zealous defender of his father’s legacy, and a Vietnam war aviation veteran.

Facebook Post

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:07:31am

I’d like to see a quality remake of The Grapes of Wrath, either with the original setting or possibly with an update to present times. It is a timeless story.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:10:52am

re: #161 Shiplord Kirel

I’d like to see a quality remake of The Grapes of Wrath, either with the original setting or possibly with an update to present times. It is a timeless story.

The Trumps of Wrath, about a family of contractors that has to resettle over all the money it lost working for a DT project…

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:21:11am

re: #161 Shiplord Kirel

Make the Joads into a Syrian refugee family being resettled in Arizona?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:46:18am
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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:15:01am

re: #164 goddamnedfrank

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Stein seems bound and determined to lend credence to every negative liberal stereotype out there.

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:27:52am

re: #165 Targetpractice

She’d be insanely insulted to be called a liberal since she believes she’s better than that. Pfft. Just another American leftist who would rather have have her fantasy revolution than actually do the hard work of making the proletariats lives better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 4:19:10am

re: #166 William Lewis

She’d be insanely insulted to be called a liberal since she believes she’s better than that. Pfft. Just another American leftist who would rather have have her fantasy revolution than actually do the hard work of making the proletariats lives better.

Remember “revolution as art”? It was all the rage back in the good old, romantic days.

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Ming5000  Aug 13, 2016 • 4:24:11am

re: #1 freetoken

Hey, any Lizards awake? I am floating here somewhere West of Wake. I am looking for Okeanos. Cannot find it.
I am running low on fuel and water…..
Lips are parched…..
Battery dead….

:-)

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2016 • 4:32:46am

re: #168 Ming5000

Hey, any Lizards awake? I am floating here somewhere West of Wake. I am looking for Okeanos. Cannot find it.
I am running low on fuel and water…..
Lips are parched…..
Battery dead….

:-)

Say ‘hello’ to Amelia for me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 4:43:33am

re: #168 Ming5000

Hey, any Lizards awake? I am floating here somewhere West of Wake. I am looking for Okeanos. Cannot find it.
I am running low on fuel and water…..
Lips are parched…..
Battery dead….

:-)

Eurolizards are here in the Dead Zone

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Scout  Aug 13, 2016 • 4:43:48am

I added my own little touch. A bit immature, but I couldn’t help myself.

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dangerman  Aug 13, 2016 • 4:47:51am

Why Leading Republicans Still Support Trump

Paul Krugman at NYT through politicalwire.com yesterday

”..they were willing to curry favor with bigots in the service of tax cuts for the rich and financial deregulation.”

“All that has happened this year is a move of those white nationalists from part of the supporting cast to a starring role. So when Republicans who went along with the earlier strategy draw the line at Mr. Trump, they’re not really taking a stand on principle; they’re just complaining about the price. And the party’s top leadership isn’t even willing to do that.”

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dangerman  Aug 13, 2016 • 4:59:31am

probably posted already.

Republicans with their own words

What is Donald Trump hiding in his tax returns? | The Briefing

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sagehen  Aug 13, 2016 • 5:00:01am

re: #152 Anymouse

I do hope that women will save us men by applying a XIX Amendment solution to Trump’s candidacy.

Combined with the 15th, 24th and 26th Amendments… that is indeed our intention.

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Split Ticket  Aug 13, 2016 • 5:10:33am

re: #174 sagehen

I agree wholeheartedly.

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dangerman  Aug 13, 2016 • 5:11:02am

re: #150 Anymouse

msn.com

Carly Fiorina laying groundwork to become chairwoman of the RNC. That ought to work out well for them.

cleaning up this mess it might be more like “charwoman”.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 13, 2016 • 5:12:53am

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Say ‘hello’ to Amelia for me.

The Country Gentlemen - Amelia Earhart’s Last Flight

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sagehen  Aug 13, 2016 • 5:19:48am

re: #166 William Lewis

She’d be insanely insulted to be called a liberal since she believes she’s better than that. Pfft. Just another American leftist who would rather have have her fantasy revolution than actually do the hard work of making the proletariats lives better.

Moonbat, dude. She’s who we point to when someone asks for a definition of moonbat.

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Lancelot Link  Aug 13, 2016 • 5:29:50am

“Closed primaries are one piece of a massive system to silence and disempower voters”
-Jill Stein

In California, at least, the Green Party held a closed primary.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 5:44:25am

re: #178 sagehen

Moonbat, dude. She’s who we point to when someone asks for a definition of moonbat.

To me, “moonbat” is kind of an affectionate term. I don’t know what to call these assholes. “Old Bolsheviks”? “Useful Idiots”?….

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 13, 2016 • 5:58:52am

re: #164 goddamnedfrank

A saying I have learned living in the south…
Bless her heart.
Bless your heart Jill.

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Jayleia  Aug 13, 2016 • 6:01:36am

It’s 9 am…and I am playing freaking World of Warcrack. I’ve avoided that addiction for over ten years…but I took a big hit of it, and now I can’t set it down.

Yes, white nerd guy problems.

BTW…the new Demon Hunter class is FUN.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 13, 2016 • 6:10:05am

Yes, that plane is inflight,
And, I suspect that the flight crew are likely answering a slew of questions now that these images are everywhere…

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jeffreyw  Aug 13, 2016 • 6:19:39am

Imgur


Good morning!

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 13, 2016 • 6:26:49am
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b.d.  Aug 13, 2016 • 6:30:23am

So still not a peep from Snowden since his cryptic “deadman’s switch” tweet a week ago.

Only an insulting and chiding statement from Greenwald that he isn’t dead that was picked up by the folks without an agenda over at RT.

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Skip Intro  Aug 13, 2016 • 6:51:13am

re: #185 FormerDirtDart

Should have given him a dictionary too so Ivanka could look up the definition of “sarcasm” and examples of how to use it.

The only remotely sarcastic thing I’ve heard Trump say was about liking the crying baby.

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Danack  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:07:29am

re: #186 b.d.

So still not a peep from Snowden since his cryptic “deadman’s switch” tweet a week ago.

It wasn’t a deadman’s switch. It was a public (and hard to mitm attack) way of getting a specific bit of information to someone, to whom Snowden doesn’t have a secure way of getting that information.

That may sound like a non-sensical thing to do, but it’s actually a very useful thing.

The scenario is that sends a file to someone on a non-secure channel. The CIA (or anyone else) could intercept that file and change its contents, and the recipient wouldn’t be able to tell if the file had been altered.

By putting a hash in a tweet that the whole world can see, the recipient can get that hash, see that everyone else is seeing the same string, and then hash the file (aka produce a checksum of it’s contents) and compare it to the hash that Snowden sent.

The end goal of that is that the recipient can know that the file they received was the original one sent by Snowden, even though neither the channel used to send the file was secure, and the channel used to send the hash wasn’t private.

(There are other things it could be, like a public key, but the hash scenario sounds most likely to me.)

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:23:51am

re: #138 Anymouse

I believe the American revolutionaries used similar tactics to the Viet Cong (use the terrain and foliage to your advantage). That doesn’t seem particularly cowardly to me, it seems smart.

I dunno, though, I’m just a librul anti-patriot or something.

The Native Americans taught them well.

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Lidane  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:27:42am
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Lidane  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:30:40am
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scottslemmons  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:35:21am

re: #180 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

To me, “moonbat” is kind of an affectionate term. I don’t know what to call these assholes. “Old Bolsheviks”? “Useful Idiots”?….

Bought and paid-for Republicans in disguise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:38:11am

re: #187 Skip Intro

Should have given him a dictionary too so Ivanka could look up the definition of “sarcasm” and examples of how to use it.

The only remotely sarcastic thing I’ve heard Trump say was about liking the crying baby.

If he says it’s sarcasm, then it’s sarcasm.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:40:35am

Mah fair state is Trump’s great hope.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:42:28am

re: #191 Lidane

I have to admit that thought simply didn’t occur to me; with his insistence that “the fix is in”, Trump is inadvertently suppressing his own turnout. His supporters may well figure, “Bah, what’s the use? Hillary’s gonna win anyway ‘cause the Powers That Be won’t allow Trump to win.” So they just stay home on Election Day - and a Hillary victory would simply be the confirmation of their beliefs.

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b.d.  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:46:18am

{Insert shocked face here}

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Jenner7  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:48:49am
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sagehen  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:51:27am

re: #197 Jenner7

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His FEMA also did a really crap job responding to Hurricane Katrina.

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b.d.  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:51:47am

re: #191 Lidane

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Delicious, I hadn’t even gotten there yet.

It would leave the GOP in shambles and the only way to rebuild it would involve trying to do it the goonsquad that destroyed it still in the majority.

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b.d.  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:54:26am

re: #198 sagehen

His FEMA also did a really crap job responding to Hurricane Katrina.

Hecka good job there Brownie Obama

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 7:59:37am

Mike Lukovich

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:04:06am
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:06:06am

re: #202 FormerDirtDart

The smartest people!

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jamesfirecat  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:07:57am

re: #202 FormerDirtDart

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Whoever made that spreedsheet needs to use a larger font, or a darker shade of red to make the words in white more visible.

That or I need to up my glasses prescription/lean closer to the monitor.

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Mattand  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:09:17am

re: #20 teleskiguy

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If anything needed a “Your argument is invalid” meme, this is it.

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Kaessa  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:10:45am

re: #205 Mattand

If anything needed an “Your argument is invalid” meme, this is it.

Already done.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:13:14am

Michelle’s dad, Michael, won silver in shot put at the 1984 games!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:14:18am

re: #207 De Kolta Chair

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Michelle’s dad, Michael, won silver in shot put at the 1984 games!

We never win. //

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:15:31am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

We never win. //

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:17:31am

Sad morning. I realized I had money still on my Starbucks app. I haven’t been for about 8 months. Went through the drive through, got home & they gave me someone’s sickeningly sweet chai.

:((

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Great White Snark  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:19:01am

re: #210 Stanley Sea

Yuck. That’s disappointing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:19:02am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

We never win. //

Well, at least the interminable Rhodian domination of the Olympics has come to an end, with Michael Phelps surpassing Leonidas of Rhodes’ 12 individual victories. USA! USA!

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Mattand  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:19:32am

re: #206 Kaessa

Goddamn, that was fast.

Would have saved me the trip to Photoshop.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:23:11am
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:23:35am

Fun Olympics Fact: Usain Bolt is 98 years old.

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Great White Snark  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:24:31am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:25:52am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

I have to admit that thought simply didn’t occur to me; with his insistence that “the fix is in”, Trump is inadvertently suppressing his own turnout. His supporters may well figure, “Bah, what’s the use? Hillary’s gonna win anyway ‘cause the Powers That Be won’t allow Trump to win.” So they just stay home on Election Day - and a Hillary victory would simply be the confirmation of their beliefs.

He has been putting his party in an impossible, damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t position since he started campaigning, this is just a continuation of the process.

It was their mistake to allow him to campaign in the first place, but they were too dense to see that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:26:22am

re: #214 FormerDirtDart

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That’s okay, he’s got civilians signing up to intimidate voters now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:27:07am

Mrs. FBW is off visiting her aging Dad in Florida, so for the next 6 days I have to put up with occasional quiet whimpering from the girl Greyhound. She loves her Mom!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:27:22am

re: #218 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s okay, he’s got civilians signing up to intimidate voters now.

Send in the Black Panthers!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:28:48am

re: #183 FormerDirtDart

Maybe the crew was eyeing some bikini’d ladies on the beach there.

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b.d.  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:29:29am

re: #216 Great White Snark

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I think you got a winning slogan there GWS:

[trump] If everyone who did not vote voted for me I would have won by a huge margin, a magnificent margin, the best margin ever [/trump]

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:31:15am

re: #219 Blind Frog Belly White

My mom and I spent a lot of time at the greyhound race track when I was a teen. Before then I didn’t know she had so many eccentric friends.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:31:45am

good morning fellow lizards. Gonna be a beautiful day for doing some BBQ/smoking. Have 3 racks of baby backs rubbed and ready and 10lbs of chicken leg quarters I brined over night in a mixture of water, salt and brown sugar. Now I am chilling before getting the fire started.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:33:15am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has been putting his party in an impossible, damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t position since he started campaigning, this is just a continuation of the process.

It was their mistake to allow him to campaign in the first place, but they were too dense to see that.

Yes it was their mistake.

I’m just trying to imagine the reaction of Reince, the RNC and the rest of the GOP if - let’s say two weeks prior to Election Day - Trump, realizing he’s not going to win, calls on his supporters to boycott the election in protest against the “rigged system”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:34:20am

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

Yes it was their mistake.

I’m just trying to imagine the reaction of Reince, the RNC and the rest of the GOP if - let’s say two weeks prior to Election Day - Trump, realizing he’s not going to win, calls on his supporters to boycott the election in protest against the “rigged system”.

He certainly would have done so had they tried to move against him at the convention.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:35:27am

What I can’t figure is whether he’s trying to pre-delegitimize a Clinton victory, excuse his own failings as someone else’s fault, or incite violent voter suppression by his supporters.

I’ve long suspected he doesn’t really want to BE President, and maybe if he can’t win, he doesn’t even want to RUN FOR President anymore. After a couple failed attempts to pivot, perhaps even he realizes he can’t. He’s as much as said that if he can’t win being himself, so be it.

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b.d.  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:37:08am

[trump] I urge all of my supporters to not participate in this rigged farce of an election. [/trump]

yep, i can see this happening.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:37:48am

re: #227 Blind Frog Belly White

What I can’t figure is whether he’s trying to pre-delegitimize a Clinton victory, excuse his own failings as someone else’s fault, or incite violent voter suppression by his supporters…

you are attempting to apply too much logic to someone whose chief motivation in life is to please his own ego

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:38:33am

re: #227 Blind Frog Belly White

What I can’t figure is whether he’s trying to pre-delegitimize a Clinton victory, excuse his own failings as someone else’s fault, or incite violent voter suppression by his supporters.

I’ve long suspected he doesn’t really want to BE President, and maybe if he can’t win, he doesn’t even want to RUN FOR President anymore. After a couple failed attempts to pivot, perhaps even he realizes he can’t. He’s as much as said that if he can’t win being himself, so be it.

I think it’s a little of all three. I agree that he probably doesn’t really want to actually be President - he’d be content losing by one or two percent. It’d still be a huge ego trip for him.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:39:33am

re: #228 b.d.

[trump] I urge all of my supporters to not participate in this rigged farce of an election. [/trump]

yep, i can see this happening.

The sound you’d hear after that statement would be a ground-shaking ‘thump’ as the RNC collectively has a stroke.

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gwangung  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:40:12am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:40:32am

In any case, he’s setting it up for no matter how much Clinton wins by, it will be seen as illegitimate in the eyes of the Republican base which emans 2020 will be even more insane in the nomination process.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:44:19am

Benjamin Schwartz/The New Yorker:

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retired cynic  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:50:22am

juanitajean.com

“Okay, okay, let us use this as a teaching moment.

“Hyperbole: deliberate extreme exaggeration or overstatement.

“Sarcasm: a sharp form of humor, intended to hurt, sometimes conveyed in speech with vocal over-emphasis insincerely saying something which is the opposite of one’s intended meaning.

“When the Leader of the Republican Party said that Barack Obama is the founder of Isis, he was not being sarcastic because (1) it was not humorous, and (2) he did not mean the exact opposite.

“He was also not using sarcasm because he said he wasn’t.

“There is also Satire, which is Hyperbole and Sarcasm with an advanced degree. Donald Trump would not recognize it if it bit him on the butt.

“There, I feel better.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:50:37am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

I think it’s a little of all three. I agree that he probably doesn’t really want to actually be President - he’d be content losing by one or two percent. It’d still be a huge ego trip for him.

I think his motivations are now muddled. I believe that when he started this, he just wanted to do well enough that people would take him seriously, especially after being publicly ridiculed by Obama in 2011. Then I think that he was surprised by how easy it was to win the GOP nomination with his bullying and bluster. I think he TRIED to pivot, but when he does, his audiences respond with golf-clapping and yawns, and he doesn’t feel the love that he craves, so he goes off-script and gets the adulation he needs.

I think he’s finding that campaigning for the general election is not as much fun. It’s hard work, and he can’t just buffalo Hillary into playing his game. The other GOP primary contenders were competing for the same pool of Tea Partiers, so they couldn’t denounce his rhetoric effectively. But the Tea Partiers are a minority of Americans, and the more he appeals to them, the less he appeals to everyone else.

I think the Primaries were fun for him, and the General is not, and maybe he’s even figured out that actually BEING President is EVEN LESS fun than that. I suppose it’s POSSIBLE that he’s mistaking big crowds at rallies for winning, but I suspect at this point the big crowds at rallies are an end in themselves. Since he doesn’t respect anyone he’s conned, maybe they’re even starting to lose their luster - what good is the adulation of people you don’t respect?

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stpaulbear  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:51:16am

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Great White Snark  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:52:55am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

In any case, he’s setting it up for no matter how much Clinton wins by, it will be seen as illegitimate in the eyes of the Republican base which remains 2020 will be even more insane in the nomination process.

He is setting up to salve his ego. The consequences for the GOP or politics or any of us peons are unimportant, trivial at best. Because he can then just “go on a long nice vacation”. Hell of it is he probably can. he never faces consequences does he? It’s bullshit in the China shop with a Roomba. Just to pull in a hilarious Page by Thanos. We are going to have to clean it up. We being the actual winners, their opponents and all of us so rightly angered by this mess.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:55:08am

re: #238 Great White Snark

He is setting up to salve his ego. The consequences for the GOP or politics or any of us peons are unimportant, trivial at best. Because he can then just “go on a long nice vacation”. Hell of it is he probably can. he never faces consequences does he? It’s bullshit in the China shop with a Roomba. Just to pull in a hilarious Page by Thanos. We are going to have to clean it up. We being the actual winners, their opponents and all of us so rightly angered by this mess.

There is that too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:57:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:58:13am

re: #238 Great White Snark

He is setting up to salve his ego. The consequences for the GOP or politics or any of us peons are unimportant, trivial at best. Because he can then just “go on a long nice vacation”. Hell of it is he probably can. he never faces consequences does he? It’s bullshit in the China shop with a Roomba. Just to pull in a hilarious Page by Thanos. We are going to have to clean it up. We being the actual winners, their opponents and all of us so rightly angered by this mess.

Exactly. Everyone else is gonna have to clean up the mess. And it’s gonna be a big, nasty, stinky mess. Like a Roomba that ran over a turd and spread it everywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:58:20am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah i don’t think a lot of the people drawn to Johnson realize the outlandish views the LP has on many things.

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Great White Snark  Aug 13, 2016 • 8:59:54am

re: #241 Dr Lizardo

Somewhere buried down close to his thin brain-stem a tiny voice is telling Donald Time Is Running Out. On his life as an elder man, on his TV career, his burst like a bubble political run and now, his legacy will suffer the stains of his actions.

Remember with miserable people, as miserable as they can make some around them it’s almost always worse in their heads.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:00:01am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

I think it’s a little of all three. I agree that he probably doesn’t really want to actually be President - he’d be content losing by one or two percent. It’d still be a huge ego trip for him.

My original opinion was that he wanted to take over Grampa Walnuts’ cushy gig as President-in-Exile all over the TV machine. He’s been getting a lot more exposure than the real President, and I thought Trump was just setting himself up for eight years of similar self-promotion.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:00:22am

re: #237 stpaulbear

Imagine applying suction cups to that!

Image: giphy.gif

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:00:27am
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Great White Snark  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:00:45am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

Yeah i don’t think a lot of the people drawn to Johnson realize the outlandish views the LP has on many things.

Three body problem. These people were not drawn to Johnson they were repelled by the others.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:02:37am

re: #243 Great White Snark

Somewhere buried down close to his thin brain-stem a tiny voice is telling Donald Time Is Running Out. On his life as an elder man, on his TV career, his burst like a bubble political run and now, his legacy will suffer the stains of his actions.

Remember with miserable people, as miserable as they can make some around them it’s almost always worse in their heads.

I do wonder if, deep down, Trump really knows that he’s got a Negative Midas Touch - that everything he touches turns to shit. Or perhaps he’s simply not capable of self-reflection; I’ve known people like that.

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stpaulbear  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:04:31am

re: #248 Dr Lizardo

I do wonder if, deep down, Trump really knows that he’s got a Negative Midas Touch - that everything he touches turns to shit. Or perhaps he’s simply not capable of self-reflection; I’ve known people like that.

He just thinks that his shit is gold.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:05:11am

re: #248 Dr Lizardo

I do wonder if, deep down, Trump really knows that he’s got a Negative Midas Touch - that everything he touches turns to shit. Or perhaps he’s simply not capable of self-reflection; I’ve known people like that.

He is concerned with pleasing his own ego.

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:05:24am

re: #248 Dr Lizardo

he’s simply not capable of self-reflection

He doesn’t even know he didn’t really want to run for president.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:06:40am

re: #247 Great White Snark

Three body problem. These people were not drawn to Johnson they were repelled by the others.

Yep, that’s no way to build a lasting coalition either.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:07:06am

re: #251 jaunte

He doesn’t even know he didn’t really want to run for president.

The GOP is in MASSIVE denial over the fact that he only wanted to run for President - to promote his brand. He has no interest in the office or the responsibilities that it entails, especially the requirement that he must weigh his words and comments carefully.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:08:23am

re: #16 Anymouse

He seems nice. And trust a Trumpeteer to describe Trump Country to a tee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:10:19am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:11:00am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pies for peace. I like it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:12:47am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:13:33am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I swear BWS I’ve seen high school politicians that could make more sense than him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:13:40am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Pies for peace. I like it.

That was my proposal for ending the Cold War: just take all the money we had spent on the military and use it to buy everybody in the USSR a new car, color TV and washing machine. They would have surrendered to us in a minute.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:13:45am
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Jenner7  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:14:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:15:24am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hillary is rigging election with underhanded tactics, like being way more popular than Trump and convincing way more people to vote for her.

Not to mention her unfair advantage of actually having a legislative and policy-making record one can refer to.

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Jenner7  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:15:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:15:55am

hahahahahaaaaa

Kimberly “Kill them all” Guilfoyle regularly dives off the deep end of our fact-filled universe, is now blaming President Obama and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for all the stupid things Donald Trump says. The Trump apologist claimed Friday on Fox News’ The Five, “It’s like the most unholy partnership of all time between the Obama Administration, Hillary Clinton, constantly making comments trying to bait Trump into saying something that will sidetrack him.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:17:17am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahaaaaa

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Yes, that’s a nice defense Kimberly. My candidate of choice is so impulsive that he’s baited into saying stupid shit. Do you realize that makes him look worse not better?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:18:19am

Oh and if Clinton and Obama are baiting Trump, that’s fine. If Trump is so simple minded that he gets baited by Obama and Clinton, what on earth is he going to do when faced with foreign powers? Kimberly doesn’t realize it but her lame excuse makes her candidate look worse not better.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:19:27am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

;-[)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:20:04am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Yes, that’s a nice defense Kimberly. My candidate of choice is so impulsive that he’s baited into saying stupid shit. Do you realize that makes him look worse not better?

Obama baited the birthers by waiting a year to finally release his birth certificate, at which point, they had become so entrenched in their position that they could not relent, and went on to “prove” that it was a forgery

I think that even Karl Rove had tried to warn them that Obama was trying to “trick” them…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:21:36am

re: #267 De Kolta Chair

;-[)

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Lorne Malvo: “No good ever came from a piece of cherry pie.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:25:18am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahaaaaa

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How dare my political opponents expose my candidate’s personality flaws!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:26:40am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Yes, that’s a nice defense Kimberly. My candidate of choice is so impulsive that he’s baited into saying stupid shit. Do you realize that makes him look worse not better?

So weird that she was married to Gavin Newsome.

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Great White Snark  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:27:25am

i’m going to see a film today, all about Operation Anthropoid. Not Scifi, that’s about the WW2 plot and assassination of one of the top Nazis involved in the final solution.

Also a reminder how dangerous tyrants with big egos are.

(When is a Goodwin not a Goodwin?)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:27:38am

re: #271 Stanley Sea

So weird that she was married to Gavin Newsome.

James Carville and Mary Matlin but I can’t see Mary making that lame of an excuse for a GOP candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:28:42am

re: #272 Great White Snark

i’m going to see a film today, all about Operation Anthropoid. Not Scifi, that’s about the WW2 plot and assassination of one of the top Nazis involved in the final solution.

Also a reminder how dangerous tyrants with big egos are.

(When is a Goodwin not a Goodwin?)

I’ve heard about htat one. I like Cillian Murphy and I’ve actually seen some of the places in Prague. It was a very ambitious plan to assassinate Heydrich.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:28:43am
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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:29:28am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

I have to admit that thought simply didn’t occur to me; with his insistence that “the fix is in”, Trump is inadvertently suppressing his own turnout. His supporters may well figure, “Bah, what’s the use? Hillary’s gonna win anyway ‘cause the Powers That Be won’t allow Trump to win.” So they just stay home on Election Day - and a Hillary victory would simply be the confirmation of their beliefs.

The best scenario of Trump voters staying home is it could cause enough Republican Senators to fall and maybe even the fall of some House Reps.

Now that is a real good thing. Let’s “fix” that!

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makeitstop  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:30:56am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahaaaaa

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It’s gonna be great to watch the alleged ‘party of tough guys’ reduced to the sniveling crybabies we always knew they were.

Oh, look. Here comes another one

I meant to mention this earlier, CNN has started doing something that’s new. They do instant fact check on Donald Drumpf. They may do it on Hillary, I haven’t seen it. Here’s what they do, I just saw it, they just ran a graphic, chyron graphic, one of those banners at the bottom of the screen, and here’s what it says verbatim: “Drumpf says Obama founder of ISIS” then parenthesis, “he’s not,” end parenthesis. And in very tiny, a very tiny font underneath that, they make some reference to CNN’s fact-checker. But you don’t see that, you don’t see that what this is is a — yeah, there it is, “Drumpf calls Obama founder of ISIS (he’s not), fact check: Al-Baghdadi” — it’s editorializing.

.

Waaah. STFU, Rusty. Go pitch some natural male enhancement products or something, that’s about all you’re good for any more.

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makeitstop  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:32:44am

re: #275 Stanley Sea

Trump described by those close to him here as exhausted, frustrated and bewildered about the political process.

Yeah, but not him, right?

I want to see how he’s holding up around the middle of October. He’ll be drooling on his shoes by then.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:33:48am

re: #272 Great White Snark

i’m going to see a film today, all about Operation Anthropoid. Not Scifi, that’s about the WW2 plot and assassination of one of the top Nazis involved in the final solution.

Also a reminder how dangerous tyrants with big egos are.

(When is a Goodwin not a Goodwin?)

That one’s filmed on location in Prague. Enjoy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:34:10am

re: #277 makeitstop

I meant to mention this earlier, CNN has started doing something that’s new. They do instant fact check on Donald Drumpf. They may do it on Hillary, I haven’t seen it. Here’s what they do, I just saw it, they just ran a graphic, chyron graphic, one of those banners at the bottom of the screen, and here’s what it says verbatim: “Drumpf says Obama founder of ISIS” then parenthesis, “he’s not,” end parenthesis. And in very tiny, a very tiny font underneath that, they make some reference to CNN’s fact-checker. But you don’t see that, you don’t see that what this is is a — yeah, there it is, “Drumpf calls Obama founder of ISIS (he’s not), fact check: Al-Baghdadi” — it’s editorializing.

..

If Hillary had gotten up to claim that, say, George Bush had founded ISIS, they would have been all over it, not rationalizing, relativizing it or calling it “sarcasm”.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:37:55am

re: #278 makeitstop

Yeah, but not him, right?

I want to see how he’s holding up around the middle of October. He’ll be drooling on his shoes by then.

New Jersey campaign rallies. By plane.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:37:57am

re: #224 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

good morning fellow lizards. Gonna be a beautiful day for doing some BBQ/smoking. Have 3 racks of baby backs rubbed and ready and 10lbs of chicken leg quarters I brined over night in a mixture of water, salt and brown sugar. Now I am chilling before getting the fire started.

And then later you will torment us with photos of tasty meats we will never get to share.

Sometime life is not fair.

And you are not helping!!!

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makeitstop  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:39:58am

re: #281 Stanley Sea

New Jersey campaign rallies. By plane.

LOL

Phoners and Skype. No questions, plz.

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Great White Snark  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:42:01am

Fivethirteight Who will win California?
Chance of winning California’s 55 electoral votes

Hillary Clinton 99.5%
Donald Trump 0.5%

(Darn it landslide gif would not run)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:46:13am

re: #275 Stanley Sea

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:48:09am

Interesting NYT article on Trump’s campaign folks having YET ANOTHER ‘Come To Jesus’ talk with him. But the thing that really stood out for me was the following, from the end of the article:

On Tuesday, hours before his explosive comment about “Second Amendment people” taking action if Mrs. Clinton is elected, his brain trust reassembled again at Trump Tower in a reprise of their stern meeting in June.

They again urged Mr. Trump to adjust his tone and comportment. The top pollster, Tony Fabrizio, gave an unvarnished assessment, warning that Mr. Trump’s numbers would only move in one direction, absent a major change.

Mr. Trump, people briefed on the meeting said, digested the advice and responded receptively.

It was time, he agreed, to get on track.

So, he agreed it’s time to get on track, right before going out and hinting at political assassination? THIS is Donald Trump “On Track”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:49:06am

Mitch McConnell may not be leading the Senate majority next Congress, the Kentucky Republican acknowledged Thursday, hinting of the down-ballot effect Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump could have on Senate races.

“I may or may not be calling the shots next year,” McConnell told a civic group in Louisville, according to The Associated Press.

McConnell, in an apparent overture to donors, called Republicans’ chances to retain the Senate “very dicey” but dismissed the Trump effect, insisting that Republicans would be “on defense,” regardless of who was atop the ticket.

He also highlighted the 24 GOP seats on the ballot this year, noting that Democrats have just 10. Democrats would need to gain five seats to retake the majority — or gain four and retain the White House as the vice president can cast a tie-breaking vote in the upper chamber.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:49:06am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

Michael Cohen @speechboy71
What’s most instructive about Katrina Pierson is not the crazy things she says, but that the Trump camp keeps using her as a spokesperson
11:52 AM - 13 Aug 2016
50 50 Retweets 88 88 likes

Proving that Trump means to say what he says and a person like Pierson is there as the person doing the dirty work to take it down to as low a level as possible.

She has his back.

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sagehen  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:49:17am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

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theonion.com

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Great White Snark  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:50:23am

Gus is on a roll.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:51:46am

re: #284 Great White Snark

Chance of winning California’s 55 electoral votes

Hillary Clinton 99.5%
Donald Trump 0.5%

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nines09  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:54:04am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

Said the self proclaimed hotshot on the basketball court who just got scorched playing h-o-r-s-e.

He doesn’t even have a ball to take with him.

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Split Ticket  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:54:17am

re: #291 De Kolta Chair

With that scowl he looks like he is trying to imitate grumpy cat. The cat still looks better than that Trump person.

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Skip Intro  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:55:18am

re: #291 De Kolta Chair

I think Trump has a real chance to get that number up above 1%, but he’s going to have to put all of his resources here to do it. I say just do it.

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BeachDem  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:56:58am

re: #284 Great White Snark

Fivethirteight Who will win California?
Chance of winning California’s 55 electoral votes

Hillary Clinton 99.5%
Donald Trump 0.5%

(Darn it landslide gif would not run)

And isn’t Trump going to be spending considerable time in CT?

Hillary Clinton—93.7
Donald Trump—6.2
projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Great strategery, Team Trump!

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:58:09am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

He also highlighted the 24 GOP seats on the ballot this year, noting that Democrats have just 10.

I was unaware of that fanfreakingtastic fact! ;-)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:58:34am

re: #295 BeachDem

And isn’t Trump going to be spending considerable time in CT?

Hillary Clinton—93.7
Donald Trump—6.2
projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Great strategery, Team Trump!

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BeachDem  Aug 13, 2016 • 9:59:20am

re: #294 Skip Intro

I think Trump has a real chance to get that number up above 1%, but he’s going to have to put all of his resources here to do it. I say just do it.

Next stop—DC:

FiveThirtyEight
Hillary Clinton >99.9%
Donald Trump <0.1%

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Go Team Trump!

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Lidane  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:00:23am

POTUS is a Time Lord:

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:00:25am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Oh and if Clinton and Obama are baiting Trump, that’s fine. If Trump is so simple minded that he gets baited by Obama and Clinton, what on earth is he going to do when faced with foreign powers? Kimberly doesn’t realize it but her lame excuse makes her candidate look worse not better.

Isn’t this a great reflection of the entire party?’

They all say crazy stuff and have no idea how it all fits into a pattern and created the people that follow and voted for the crazy.

And when this election cycle is over FOX, like the GOP is going to come out the worse for it. And they will have arrogantly done it to themselves.

But onward they march!

I think it best not to get in the way though. Let them Pied Piper that whole mess over a cliff. America will be better off for it.

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Skip Intro  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:05:43am

The reason people flood into Trump rallies isn’t because they expect to hear him get specific about his plans. If he did that, no one would show up.

They go because they don’t want to miss the show where he bites the head off of a live chicken, or whips his dick out to pee on a picture of Hillary.

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sagehen  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:05:53am

re: #296 De Kolta Chair

I was unaware of that fanfreakingtastic fact! ;-)

It’s the class of 2010.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:10:07am

Remember back during the Primaries, when the media narrative was about the unstoppable Trump juggernaut? And we railed against the narrative-driven media and how they were feeding this phenomenon, making it a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Now, story after story comes out about Trump, lost in the larger, more complex world of the General, unable to remake himself as anything but a racist blowhard. NOW the stories of his con-man history take root, and instead of a crafty genius, he appears to be a cranky, moody loser. This, too, is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The Narrative giveth, and The Narrative taketh away.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:13:23am

re: #302 sagehen

It’s the class of 2010.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:14:33am

re: #299 Lidane

You know, I’m actually really happy Twitter wasn’t around on 9/11. I can only imagine the madness…

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Lidane  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:15:07am

One of Donald Trump’s companies prepared financial estimates for its lenders and investors that were “rosier” than the projections it used internally, a financial analyst for the company said in a deposition obtained by BuzzFeed News.

The testimony concerns Trump’s $200 million project to transform the Old Post Office building — a taxpayer-owned landmark just five blocks from White House — into a luxury hotel. The company developing the hotel is owned by Trump and three of his children, Ivanka, Donald Jr., and Eric.

Lenders were told the hotel could earn millions of dollars more than the more conservative, internal estimates, the financial analyst, Raymond Flores, testified. He said those internal projections “generally tend to err on the side of being pretty conservative.”

Later he said, “And then there are other projections where, you know, we’re pitching to a lender or an equity source, where it’s rosier.” With these projections, he said, “we’re pushing the boundaries of — we’re pushing ranges of reasonability at those — at those projections to show, you know, what the hotel could be.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:17:26am

re: #306 Lidane

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This is not what’s usually meant by “Double Entry Bookkeeping”.
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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:19:11am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:20:30am

re: #152 Anymouse

I do hope that women will save us men by applying a XIX Amendment solution to Trump’s candidacy.

I have a dream that even us white men will have enough sense for a majority of us to reject Trump.

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Lidane  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:21:34am

re: #307 Blind Frog Belly White

This is not what’s usually meant by “Double Entry Bookkeeping”.
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Seriously.

Wasn’t this the kind of shit that brought Enron down and ruined lives? WTF.

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makeitstop  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:21:42am

re: #297 Blind Frog Belly White

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It’s all for the TV cameras at this point. And the ego massage.

Fatal miscalculation, but here we are.

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Danack  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:22:13am

re: #300 ObserverArt

Isn’t this a great reflection of the entire party?’

They all say crazy stuff and have no idea how it all fits into a pattern and created the people that follow and voted for the crazy.

They don’t just say, they believe crazy stuff.

The rightwing people still following Trump are really not in a healthy mindset, and that NYT article gave me a large reminder of several scenes from “The Downfall

“Occasionally, Mr. Trump blows off steam in bursts of boyish exuberance: At the end of a fund-raiser on Long Island last week, he playfully buzzed the crowd twice with his helicopter.”

I went looking for this one:

Der Untergang Downfall part 4

But the end of this one is highly analogous as well - skip to 7:40:

Der Untergang Downfall part 6

The Republican party and white racists have been feeding off each other for the last 50 years, and their current situation is entirely of their own making.

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Jenner7  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:23:37am

Good lord. Come on, Ben.

Maybe press your fellow journalists to ask REAL questions and maybe she’ll do more “press conferences”. Until then, stick it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:23:48am

re: #312 Danack

They don’t just say, they believe crazy stuff.

The rightwing people still following Trump are really not in a healthy mindset, and that NYT article gave me a large reminder of several scenes from “The Downfall

I went looking for this one:

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Video

Videos say content is blocked in my country (US) due to copyright issues.

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Lidane  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:24:30am

:(

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:28:12am

re: #310 Lidane

Seriously.

Wasn’t this the kind of shit that brought Enron down and ruined lives? WTF.

Do you suppose he knew there were going to be some serious indictments coming down the pike and he figured if he were President he wouldn’t have to worry about them?

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:28:48am

re: #306 Lidane

One client of a company I used to work for kept three sets of books; one for taxes, one for investors and a truthful one.

You should have seen the kerfuffle when I fixed their computer system so it kept accurate data.

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Danack  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:29:08am

re: #314 Blind Frog Belly White

Videos say content is blocked in my country (US) due to copyright issues.

Blah.

Video one is the party scene from Downfall.

Video two is the scene where General Mohnke is asking Goebbels to spare the civilian of Berlin from being thrown into the front line, and Goebbels blames the people for bringing the war on themselves.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:30:15am

re: #306 Lidane

Trump’s financial analyst responds:

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:33:37am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

I have to admit that thought simply didn’t occur to me; with his insistence that “the fix is in”, Trump is inadvertently suppressing his own turnout. His supporters may well figure, “Bah, what’s the use? Hillary’s gonna win anyway ‘cause the Powers That Be won’t allow Trump to win.” So they just stay home on Election Day - and a Hillary victory would simply be the confirmation of their beliefs.

Burn it to the ground, Donald. Maybe the D’s can win a House majority after all.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:40:56am

re: #320 Big Beautiful Door

And his deluded followers will think it’ll all be a great lark and much fun…….until they wake up the day after the election and it hits them.

And then they’ll be angry. Very angry.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:45:22am

I don’t know if anybody else here reads The Macalope, but these leadins could become a new form of literature:

“Writing for the Forbes contributor network and Sasquatch stud farm, Ewan Spence explains…”

“Writing for the Forbes contributor network and reform school for circus poodles gone bad, Ewan Spence describes…”

“Writing for the Forbes contributor network and hot dog water reclamation plant, Gordon Kelly says…”

“Writing for the Forbes contributor network and irregular hot dog factory outlet (motto: “Misshapen hot dogs direct to you, cutting out the middle man which, uh, in this case is the FDA”), Jon Markman says…”

“Writing for the Forbes contributor network and mobility scooter impound lot, Ewan Spence explains…”

“Writing for the Forbes contributor network and candy cane freebasing den, Ewan Spence says…”

“Writing for the Forbes contributor network and refurbished organ grinder monkey outlet store, Ben Sin says…”

“Writing for the Forbes contributor network and Nigel Farage LARPing Academy (jokes torn unceremoniously from today’s headlines like a soggy Band-Aid!), Ben Sin says…”

Etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:56:15am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:57:43am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

How long before the reality of this hits Trump like a hammer blow? How long until he realizes, in no uncertain terms, that’s he facing a debacle? And what’s he going to do when he does realize this?

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2016 • 10:59:59am
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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:00:06am

One is still with us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:00:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:01:06am

re: #324 Dr Lizardo

How long before the reality of this hits Trump like a hammer blow? How long until he realizes, in no uncertain terms, that’s he facing a debacle? And what’s he going to do when he does realize this?

I’m beginning to believe that Donald is incapable of realizing any of this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:04:16am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:04:38am

re: #324 Dr Lizardo

How long before the reality of this hits Trump like a hammer blow? How long until he realizes, in no uncertain terms, that’s he facing a debacle? And what’s he going to do when he does realize this?

I think he already is. Hence the talk about the election being rigged.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:06:27am

re: #325 jaunte

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I remember watching the crowds dancing on top of the Berlin Wall. You kids who didn’t grow up under the shadow of the Cold War have no idea what an electric moment in time that was.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:06:37am

re: #330 Big Beautiful Door

I think he already is. Hence the talk about the election being rigged.

I cannot believe that he managed to totally snooker the RNC…the did not see this coming, nor can they believe that they have been taken for a ride.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:07:06am

re: #325 jaunte

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I have a baggie of dust I picked up from there in 1993. In the same drawer with my baggies of braids that I grew.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:07:30am

re: #331 Big Beautiful Door

I remember watching the crowds dancing on top of the Berlin Wall. You kids who didn’t grow up under the shadow of the Cold War have no idea what an electric moment in time that was.

My youngest sister was there to witness the wall coming down.

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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:08:36am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, but at the same time, the GOP and the press did a lot of the same legwork to create the impression that Bill’s two terms were “illegitimate” as well. Both elections were won by less than 50% of the vote, so they insisted both times that Bill hadn’t really won the vote of the majority of Americans. That if Perot hadn’t been there, all those votes would have gone to Bush Sr/Dole and Republicans would have kept the White House.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:08:38am

re: #331 Big Beautiful Door

I remember watching the crowds dancing on top of the Berlin Wall. You kids who didn’t grow up under the shadow of the Cold War have no idea what an electric moment in time that was.

I watched from Everett, WA, with my youngest brother, who had left Berlin two days earlier. He was kicking himself.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:08:59am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

My youngest sister was there to witness the wall coming down.

One of my students was in East Berlin for some technical exhibit or another when the Wall came down. He had quite a few stories to tell, to say the least.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:09:03am

And now, for something different:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:09:30am

re: #325 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I remember reading some General—Maxwell Taylor, it seems like—saying everybody freaked out over the Cuban Missile Crisis, but really, the closest we came to nuclear war was the Berlin Crisis the year before.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:11:45am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot believe that he managed to totally snooker the RNC…the did not see this coming, nor can they believe that they have been taken for a ride.

Humans have awesome capacities for rationalization. They couldn’t stop him, so they convinced themselves that he could make the general election pivot. Now the horror of the realization that he can’t, and he seems bent on taking the GOP down with him, is slowly dawning on them.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:12:25am

re: #331 Big Beautiful Door

I remember watching the crowds dancing on top of the Berlin Wall. You kids who didn’t grow up under the shadow of the Cold War have no idea what an electric moment in time that was.

And then there’s old farts like me who haven’t quite adjusted to it yet…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:12:37am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

My youngest sister was there to witness the wall coming down.

That must have been one awesome party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:12:48am

hahahahhhhhhaaaaaaaa

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:13:37am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

FiveThirtyEight ✔ @FiveThirtyEight
Trump is polling worse among black voters than almost every single Republican presidential nominee since 1948: 53eig.ht
12:04 PM - 13 Aug 2016

I bet there are Trump supporters in areas of this country who think this is a great feature of a Trump Presidency and another reason to vote for Trump.

Am I being too cynical? I don’t feel like it, I think that is where we are at sadly. This whole election is allowing a lot of trash to float to the surface.

I am not saying there is a lot of trash, hopefully, but the trash that exists is showing up and exposing itself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:14:17am
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:14:36am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mrs. Betty Bowers @BettyBowers

My favorite thing in that picture? More than the vulgar decor? The implication that that philistine can even find middle-c.

And he had the black keys removed at the factory.

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Danack  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:14:45am

Trump’s Missing Money

So……there is a huge disconnect between how much money Trump has raised, and how much he has spent.

The tl:dr is:

If you do the math, that means Trump spent $63m in July. He didn’t spend it on TV advertising. How did Trump spend the money?

There’s a third explanation for the missing $63m. The end-of-June FEC report indicates that Trump had lent his campaign $50m. Although Trump promised to forgive this loan, NBC news reported that he never filed the papers to actually do this. Perhaps Trump repaid himself from the $63m, leaving little money for ads and field staff.

I would say that this would be shocking if true…..but it really wouldn’t be at all shocking.

It explains why there is no Trump ground game, or adverts, and is totally inline with the behaviour I would expect Mr Trump to follow.

*EDIT*

Apparently he did file the paperwork:
cnbc.com
so the missing money is still missing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:15:32am

re: #344 ObserverArt

I bet there are Trump supporters in areas of this country who think this is a great feature of a Trump Presidency and another reason to vote for Trump.

Am I being too cynical? I don’t feel like it, I think that is where we are at sadly. This whole election is allowing a lot of trash to float to the surface.

I am not saying there is a lot of trash, hopefully, but the trash that exists is showing up and exposing itself.

There are Trump supporters here in the Backwoods, but most of them don’t bother to vote.
Ever.

But they sure do like to whine a lot.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:16:11am

re: #347 Danack

Trump’s Missing Money

So……there is a huge disconnect between how much money Trump has raised, and how much he has spent.

The tl:dr is:

I would say that this would be shocking if true…..but it really wouldn’t be.

It explains why there is no Trump ground game, or adverts, and is totally inline with the behaviour I would expect Mr Trump to follow.

Its Trump’s M.O. In every business venture he gets involved in, he always pays himself first.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:16:56am

galaxyfaraway.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:17:42am

re: #346 De Kolta Chair

[Embedded content]

And he had the black keys removed at the factory.

I still can’t get over how weird it is that Melania’s unusually well-defined boob grows out of her armpit.

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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:20:13am

re: #339 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I remember reading some General—Maxwell Taylor, it seems like—saying everybody freaked out over the Cuban Missile Crisis, but really, the closest we came to nuclear war was the Berlin Crisis the year before.

I think what really makes the Missile Crisis more significant at least to Americans is that it was the first time that the US faced a credible nuclear threat. The Berlin Crisis was a serious step towards a hot war, but it was possible for most Americans to write it off as a European affair. It was only after the Soviets parked a few hundred warheads 90 miles off the US coast that shit got real.

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CarolJ  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:20:57am

LIke I said elsewhere, Queen Victoria, Louis the XIV and Liberace would consider that decor over the top. Everything in gold? Nobody who has access to real gold is going to waste so much on decor.

As for the Trump fundraising, the answer is simple: he is not going to leave thisi campaign broke. He gets paid first no matter what. Ground game, ads, mean nothing to him if he doesn’t have his needs met first.

And Melania’s. And his kids. And his lifestyle. Anything left over he might expend for appearance’s sake. I’m surprised he still has staff, but he doesn’t mind that expenditure because it looks good for him. But I bet he’s underpaying them greatly and leading them on with promises he will never keep. We will know about that November 9th, when they all walk out the door.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:23:38am

New thread mocking the bullet lady!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:27:15am

re: #347 Danack

Trump’s Missing Money

So……there is a huge disconnect between how much money Trump has raised, and how much he has spent.

The tl:dr is:

I would say that this would be shocking if true…..but it really wouldn’t be at all shocking.

It explains why there is no Trump ground game, or adverts, and is totally inline with the behaviour I would expect Mr Trump to follow.

*EDIT*

Apparently he did file the paperwork:
cnbc.com
so the missing money is still missing.

Payable to the various trump industries as reimbursement for their “time”

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:28:04am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

Neat, thanks.

Somebody did a nice job of adding animation, sound effects and — Jumping Jaysus! — subtitles to James Joyce 1929 reading from the Anna Livia Plurabelle section of “Finnegans Wake.”

James Joyce Reading Finnegans Wake (w/Subtitles)

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sagehen  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:28:55am

re: #347 Danack

Apparently he did file the paperwork:
cnbc.com
so the missing money is still missing.

The campaign pays charter rates to use his plane. The campaign pays rent for office space in his buildings, for fundraisers at his properties. It pays consulting fees to his children. Etc.

Rick Wilson once described some of the campaign’s paperwork as “an FEC report that looks like an exhibit in a RICO trial”.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:30:09am

re: #339 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I remember reading some General—Maxwell Taylor, it seems like—saying everybody freaked out over the Cuban Missile Crisis, but really, the closest we came to nuclear war was the Berlin Crisis the year before.

The reason America freaked out about the Cuban Missile Crisis was because it was close to us.

It is an American trait. Like so many events in the world…it is one thing if it happens “over there” and an entirely different thing if it happens “here.”

America’s Exceptional Tunnelvisionism!

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:37:12am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are Trump supporters here in the Backwoods, but most of them don’t bother to vote.
Ever.

But they sure do like to whine a lot.

My guitar jamming buddy and I and another buddy were discussing that very thing last night. We were thinking some of them would even go to a Trump rally to see the man like a rock star but never go buy the album (vote). They just like a good rowdy show…like big time wrasslin’!

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:40:07am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

I still can’t get over how weird it is that Melania’s unusually well-defined boob grows out of her armpit.

Those implants just don’t move naturally do they?!

///

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 14, 2016 • 6:28:27am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If Hillary had gotten up to claim that, say, George Bush had founded ISIS, they would have been all over it, not rationalizing, relativizing it or calling it “sarcasm”.

And that would be much closer to the truth.


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