Video: Katrina Pierson Face-Plants Majestically on CNN

Yet another massive fail
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Remember when Trump spokesidiot Katrina Pierson was supposedly told not to discuss subjects she was ignorant about, after blaming Obama for changing the “rules of engagement” in the Iraq War, leading to the death of Khizr Khan’s son — who lost his life in 2004?

Welp, here she is again on CNN saying “Barack Obama went into Afghanistan,” and “that was Obama’s war.” I’m sure I don’t have to inform LGF readers that George W. Bush actually started the war in Afghanistan in 2001.

CNN’s Victor Blackwell has some great facial expressions in this video clip, as he does one double take after another at the random gibberish Pierson is emitting.

And I love CNN’s title at YouTube for this clip: “Pierson: Obama Took US Into Afghanistan (He Didn’t).”

The Trump campaign is just melting down gloriously on all fronts. The Republican Party owns this — all of it.

And here’s an oldie but not a goodie, just for laughs: Pierson hanging out with white supremacist troll Chuck C. Johnson earlier this year.

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223 comments

1
Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:23:53am

Let’s be honest, if Trump’s surrogates had to keep quiet on every subject they didn’t understand, they’d never speak.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:25:17am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:26:35am

By all means. Keep talking, Katrina!

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:28:16am

I can’t take her seriously unless she’s wearing her bullet necklace.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:29:02am

Yet another brick in the RWNJ alternate reality…. Expect to see Twitter eggs repeat this till the Sun leaves the Main Sequence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:29:32am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:30:44am

to watch one of these fascist rallies is to see the damage that’s already being done, daily

a sick man stands in front of a crowd raving about all the people who have angered him. other politicians, they’re “incredibly stupid stupid people, just stupid stupid people, really stupid” or “sick criminals”. it’s an outrage that hillary is allowed to walk free in the open air for another second and locking her up is the primary aim of the republican party. journalists are “the scum of the earth”, they are “incredibly corrupt”, they “lie and lie and lie” and when he says “lie” the word is slung with a angry guttural growl that barely conceals the message that they deserve to be beaten to death by an angry mob

it’s obviously not a political rally, it’s a classic fascist mass hate. it’s clear that the furious mob has been whipped within an inch of an act of mass violence

what happens now that millions of americans have been told that it is ok, even patriotic, to let the sickness in their souls to explode in a demonic black mass? what do we do with them, how do we talk to them, how do we digest the ugliness and sickness that has pushed itself into our faces?

how can america live with this?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:30:59am

re: #3 GlutenFreeJesus

By all means. Keep talking, Katrina!

“If Abraham Lincoln hadn’t taken us into Pearl Harbor, then Adolf Hitler wouldn’t have founded Communism, and George Custer wouldn’t have died defending New Orleans in Castro’s Bay of Pigs invasion!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:32:35am
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KGxvi  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:32:37am

re: #1 Targetpractice

Let’s be honest, if Trump’s surrogates had to keep quiet on every subject they didn’t understand, they’d never speak.

And probably winning this election.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:33:23am

re: #8 Big Beautiful Door

“If Abraham Lincoln hadn’t taken us into Pearl Harbor, then Adolf Hitler wouldn’t have founded Communism, and George Custer wouldn’t have died defending New Orleans in Castro’s Bay of Pigs invasion!”

And Obi Wan would still be with us!

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Danack  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:35:46am

yeah, and Trump still claims he’s “winning” veterans.

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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:36:09am

I think the highlight of the clip is the first time that Victor corrected her, that frozen look on her face that says “Brain Not Found: Abort, Retry, Fail?”

This is why you don’t send your surrogates out to tackle subjects with which they’re not personally familiar. Like how you don’t send our your military surrogate to tackle questions on abortion or your financial surrogates to talk about the Iraq War. Katrina’s trying to repeat the arm chair general argument we’ve heard for the past 8 years, that the Iraq War was “won” with the Surge and then the President eased up and left a vacuum that ISIS formed in. But to her they’re just a bunch of data points and BS, so she ends up sounding like a wingnut Mad Libs book.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:36:27am

That part about ‘They didn’t file the Articles of Incorporation,” will always crack me up.

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JasonA  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:36:49am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:36:53am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:39:26am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:39:36am

“WAS IT OVER WHEN OBAMA INVADED AFGHANISTAN?!?”

“Obama?”
“Forget it, she’s rolling.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:40:40am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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That, and the lifetime Non-Disparagement Agreement. I wonder if it’s mutual?

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:41:58am

BBL lizards. Btw, have you met Sassy Trump?

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Jay C  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:43:42am

re: #8 Big Beautiful Door

“If Abraham Lincoln hadn’t taken us into Pearl Harbor, then Adolf Hitler wouldn’t have founded Communism, and George Custer wouldn’t have died defending New Orleans in Castro’s Bay of Pigs invasion!”

So, Thanks, Obama!!!

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:45:17am

Does the disparagement clause cover looking like a complete idiot while trying to support Trump? Pierson has clearly disparaged Trump by being an idiot. Can he sue her for that?

Asking for a friend…

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Skip Intro  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:45:33am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Yeah, Donald, let’s have a talk about “non-existent unnamed sources”, shall we?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:45:37am
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Skip Intro  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:47:41am

re: #22 BigPapa

Does the disparagement clause cover looking like a complete idiot while trying to support Trump? Pierson has clearly disparaged Trump by being an idiot. Can he sue her for that?

Asking for a friend…

Trump’s response would be “what did she say that was wrong?”

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:48:05am

re: #7 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

All the updings.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:49:26am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Fredo I’m Smart! Respect LOUD

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:50:48am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Steve Kornacki sometimes goes into geek wonk thinking that just makes my head hurt.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:51:50am

I heard this nonsense from my idiot brother, that Nader voters didn’t give GWB the election, because Gore didn’t even win his home state. This is the kind of crap he spouts when trying to justify voting for Stein. It denies the voter any real responsibility for the results of their vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:53:12am
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dangerman  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:55:13am

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

…or indeed many of the states he didn’t win

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:55:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:57:38am
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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:58:20am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

POLITICO ✔ @politico
Lewandowski signs with speakers bureau, promotes ‘behind the scenes’ of Trump campaign politi.co | AP
2:20 PM - 13 Aug 2016
21 21 Retweets 20 20 likes

Anyone get the feeling Lewandowski is really going to rat The Donald™ out?

Everyone says there are disclosure contracts in place. Maybe Corey has been around Trump long enough to know it is all growl and no bite and has no reason to believe anything he says will cost him. Or, he has so much good stuff should he start to sing it will be so crushing all Trump would be able to do is ignore it and go into hiding.

Whatever happens, this winter is going to be full of “reflections” on the 2016 Presidential Sweepstakes. Books, Movies, Tell-alls on TV…butts exposed all around.

And then comes Obama in January. BOOM!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 11:59:39am
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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:01:22pm

It’s becoming obvious that the GOP thinks they can get away with a historical revisionism of the past 20 years that says Iraq was that war that no Republicans supported (or they were “fooled” into supporting) but every Democrat was champing at the bit to fight, that we’d “won” or were close to “winning” when Obama took office, and our backing off the fight is what created ISIS and all the instability in the region. It’s this pretty bald-faced effort to try to spin Iraq as the new Vietnam, but in the “We woulda won if we’d fought harder!” historical revisionism that the GOP has been feeding its base for decades.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:04:01pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:05:01pm

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

“WAS IT OVER WHEN OBAMA INVADED AFGHANISTAN?!?”

“Obama?”
“Forget it, she’s rolling.”

Obama: “Please Proceed Katrina”

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BeachDem  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:06:31pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

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I heard this nonsense from my idiot brother, that Nader voters didn’t give GWB the election, because Gore didn’t even win his home state. This is the kind of crap he spouts when trying to justify voting for Stein. It denies the voter any real responsibility for the results of their vote.

Home state loss indicates something? Bodes well for Hillary…

Chance of winning New York’s 29 electoral votes

Hillary Clinton 99.4%
Donald Trump 0.6%

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

And Hillary’s actual home state

Chance of winning Illinois’s 20 electoral votes

Hillary Clinton 98.6%
Donald Trump 1.3%
projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Any way you look at it—buh by Donald.

Also, anyone who votes for Stein:
A. Doesn’t really know anything about Stein
B. Believes himself/herself to be a pure, special snowflake.
C. Is a dumbass
(My opinion only—YMMV)

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Danack  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:07:43pm

I’m going to repost this from downstairs, as it’s interesting, though possibly wrong in one significant regard:
Trump’s Missing Money

If you’re watching the Olympic games, you may have noticed “Hillary for President” ads. She’s bought $13.6 million worth, while Donald Trump has bought none. In fact, since garnering the Republican nomination, he’s spent $0 on TV. Nonetheless, the Trump campaign spent $63m in July. What happened to it?

The article theorises that Trump may have secretly repaid the $50million loan he made his campaign. That is apparently incorrect, as he has apparently filed the paperwork to forgive the loan to his campaign.

Which leaves the very real question, what has the $63 million been spent on, as it’s not been spent on ads (apparently), and doesn’t appear to have been spent on organisation either.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:09:23pm

re: #40 Danack

I’m going to repost this from downstairs, as it’s interesting, though possibly wrong in one significant regard:
Trump’s Missing Money

The article theorises that Trump may have secretly repaid the $50million loan he made his campaign. That is apparently incorrect, as he has apparently filed the paperwork to forgive the loan to his campaign.

Which leaves the very real question, what has the $63 million been spent on, as it’s not been spent on ads (apparently), and doesn’t appear to have been spent on organisation either.

Hookers and blow?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:10:31pm
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Danack  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:11:27pm

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

Hookers and blow?

Well, at least it wasn’t wasted then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:13:58pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:14:53pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

Anyone get the feeling Lewandowski is really going to rat The DonaldTM out?

Nope. He doesn’t want to spend years and buckets of money defending himself. He’s a rat just like all of Trump’s people, so he’ll just find some dark hole to crawl in to.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:16:32pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yup, he’s been egged on to tweet.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:16:34pm

A friend of mine is in lockdown at a Mall in Raleigh, N.C. where there apparently is an active shooter.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:18:28pm

re: #47 Big Beautiful Door

A friend of mine is in lockdown at a Mall in Raleigh, N.C. where there apparently is an active shooter.

abc11.com

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TedStriker  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:19:33pm

re: #20 De Kolta Chair

BBL lizards. Btw, have you met Sassy Trump?

Sassy Trump? Is that like being one of the Spice Girls?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:20:21pm

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

abc11.com

That is the one. An old classmate of mine is hiding in the office at Banana Republic.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:20:48pm

I have a question the good Lizard crew can help me with.

I’m seeing a bunch of people saying Hillary “Crowed about” and “made a big deal” about the endorsement from John Negroponte.

I know it is being reported that way, but did she actually make a thing of it, or just accept he made the endorsement?

It seems to be a thing. And I need some ammo.

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TedStriker  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:22:51pm

re: #47 Big Beautiful Door

A friend of mine is in lockdown at a Mall in Raleigh, N.C. where there apparently is an active shooter.

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

abc11.com

re: #51 Big Beautiful Door

That is the one. An old classmate of mine is hiding in the office at Banana Republic.

Just another day ending in -y in the NRA’s America…

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Skip Intro  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:25:07pm

re: #53 TedStriker

Just another day ending in -y in the NRA’s America…

If only everybody in that mall was armed they could all be shooting back at the bad guy (once they figure out who that is).

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:25:21pm
She’s definitely not a nice person.

Watching the Trump surrogates, this seems consistent with the behavior (and facial acting out) of Scottie Nell Hughes, Boris Epshteyn, Carl Paladino, and etc.

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Lidane  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:26:33pm

READY! FIRE! AIM!

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:27:39pm

re: #39 BeachDem

Any way you look at it—buh by Donald.

Also, anyone who votes for Stein:
A. Doesn’t really know anything about Stein
B. Believes himself/herself to be a pure, special snowflake.
C. Is a dumbass
(My opinion only—YMMV)

MMMBAEM.

My Mileage May Be An Exact Match.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:28:45pm

re: #56 Lidane

READY! FIRE! AIM!

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I’m sorta surprised media wingnuts aren’t rooting for a Hillary win. They’ll have a guaranteed four years to piss and moan about every little damn thing. Ratings bonanza!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:29:15pm

re: #56 Lidane

READY! FIRE! AIM!

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Doughy vs. Lumpy. Can they both lose, please?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:31:04pm
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(alpuz)  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:32:29pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

huh?

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(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:33:00pm

Sorry for the OT:

I’m excited today. Monica Puig plays for gold in women’s single tennis. It might be the first gold medal for Puerto Rico.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:33:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:33:10pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:35:49pm

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

I’m sorta surprised media wingnut aren’t rooting for a Hillary win. They’ll have a guaranteed four years to piss and moan about every little damn thing. Ratings bonanza!

They might have accepted losing this year, but not to Hillary. They have spent decades vilifying her. Hell, most of the older crew made their bones during “The Great Penis Hunt” of the 90s. They patted themselves on the backs in ‘08 when she lost the nomination because they felt they’d held “defeat” her. So to have her not only win, but by such a margin that it’s almost impossible to argue her win is “illegitimate” as they did with Bill? 4 years of saying “President Clinton” yet again? Their egos would never recover.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:36:03pm

re: #61 (alpuz)

huh?

exactly. I had to check the date stamp line 4 times before posting.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:36:28pm

re: #63 Dr Lizardo

Oh, and saw this in the replies - and I couldn’t resist firing back.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:37:48pm

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

Oh, and saw this in the replies - and I couldn’t resist firing back.

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Who’s taking Clyde Tombaugh’s name in vain?

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Skip Intro  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:38:45pm

re: #55 jaunte

Watching the Trump surrogates, this seems consistent with the behavior (and facial acting out) of Scottie Nell Hughes, Boris Epshteyn, Carl Paladino, and etc.

I keep waiting to see the “best people” Trump claims he hires. Maybe he’s talking about his lawyers.

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makeitstop  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:43:01pm

re: #40 Danack

I’m going to repost this from downstairs, as it’s interesting, though possibly wrong in one significant regard:
Trump’s Missing Money

The article theorises that Trump may have secretly repaid the $50million loan he made his campaign. That is apparently incorrect, as he has apparently filed the paperwork to forgive the loan to his campaign.

Which leaves the very real question, what has the $63 million been spent on, as it’s not been spent on ads (apparently), and doesn’t appear to have been spent on organisation either.

Is there a link to an FEC document affirming that the paperwork has been filed?

HuffPo quotes an NBC News story that says it hasn’t but with a dateline of June 30. Is there a report that refutes the admittedly old NBC story?

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makeitstop  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:44:28pm

re: #61 (alpuz)

huh?

Lame excuse for poor performance, incoming…

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(alpuz)  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:45:52pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

ha! that was the first thing i checked. yowza.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:46:45pm
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Kragar  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:49:41pm

Ideas Trump voters thought were great:

*fitting every Mexican with an electric shock collar
*publicly questioning Hillary’s Gender
*using portapotties to trap Mexicans for deportation
*setting up homes to trap Mexicans for deportation
*vending machines with guns in Women’s restrooms
*Allowing access to abortion to be used to increase tourism

Trump Supporters React to Outrageous Campaign Ads • Triumph’s Summer Election Special 2016

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Split Ticket  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:51:00pm

re: #74 Kragar

And that is why I watch PBS.

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(alpuz)  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:51:06pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

“I wasn’t overly worried about it because I use my older model for fishing and hunting,” Warner said. “It wasn’t my everyday leg, to put it that way.”

yours truly & with salutations,
WiSconi.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:52:35pm

My friend has been evacuated from the Mall. Lots of cops and ambulances around; I haven’t heard any reports about casualties.

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Split Ticket  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:53:38pm

re: #77 Big Beautiful Door

Let’s hope and pray that there are no injuries and everyone is okay.

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TedStriker  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:54:09pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Doughy vs. Lumpy. Can they both lose, please?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:54:11pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

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A quick search on Craigslist yielded an ad from Mark Warner, who lost the prosthetic limb when his own canoe tipped over during a July fishing trip on Range Line Lake in Wabeno. The 49-year-old from Green Bay said he rescued his fishing gear and cooler, but the prosthetic limb got away.

“I wasn’t overly worried about it because I use my older model for fishing and hunting,” Warner said. “It wasn’t my everyday leg, to put it that way.”

heh

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:56:34pm

re: #52 ObserverArt

I have a question the good Lizard crew can help me with.

I’m seeing a bunch of people saying Hillary “Crowed about” and “made a big deal” about the endorsement from John Negroponte.

I know it is being reported that way, but did she actually make a thing of it, or just accept he made the endorsement?

It seems to be a thing. And I need some ammo.

Still asking for a friend.

I get the feeling Clinton wasn’t “bragging” about it at all.

And I got that “bragging” line from this link: Esquire - Why Is Hillary Clinton Bragging About This Endorsement?

And that comes from an article by By Charles P. Pierce.

I’d be interested in what BeachDem thinks about his take about all this.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 13, 2016 • 12:57:20pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

Man, I wish humans could do that naturally. :P

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:00:33pm

re: #81 ObserverArt

Still asking for a friend.

I get the feeling Clinton wasn’t “bragging” about it at all.

And I got that “bragging” line from this link: Esquire - Why Is Hillary Clinton Bragging About This Endorsement?

And that comes from an article by By Charles P. Pierce.

I’d be interested in what BeachDem thinks about his take about all this.

My take is that the purists are up in arms because Hillz did not immediately and completely disavow the endorsement.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:01:08pm
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Split Ticket  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:06:24pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

A very sad story. I cannot say anything else because I am upset. It reminds me too much of other stories I have heard over the years. I hope everything works out for her.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:08:56pm

Frogs, goats, …I also like rats. I haven’t gotten another pet rat since me and Mr. w started living together. Some people experience rats as something other then pets when they are kids.

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:10:08pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:12:05pm

re: #85 Split Ticket

A very sad story. I cannot say anything else because I am upset. It reminds me too much of other stories I have heard over the years. I hope everything works out for her.

Domestic abuse is another area that demands more attention. I’m hoping that it will get more attention with a woman in charge at the top. But EVERYONE should be in favor. Domestic abuse calls are some of the most dangerous things law enforcement encounters.

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Danack  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:12:20pm

re: #70 makeitstop

Is there a link to an FEC document affirming that the paperwork has been filed?

These stories are all written as if the journalist has seen the FEC filing:

cnn.com
upi.com

nbcnews.com

latimes.com

But annoyingly, none of them link to the primary source.

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BeachDem  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:13:55pm

re: #81 ObserverArt

Still asking for a friend.

I get the feeling Clinton wasn’t “bragging” about it at all.

And I got that “bragging” line from this link: Esquire - Why Is Hillary Clinton Bragging About This Endorsement?

And that comes from an article by By Charles P. Pierce.

I’d be interested in what BeachDem thinks about his take about all this.

You know I dearly love Pierce, but he definitely has and has always had a bug up his ass about Hillary. And he was a pretty strong Bernie supporter (but never a “bro.”)

The other day he said that if she sought or even accepted an endorsement from Kissinger, he (Pierce) would not vote for her.

His regulars gave him some shit about that in the comments, but I don’t think he’s changed his mind.

I’m kind of disappointed, and hope that if her persists in that bit of idiocy that “Senator Professor Warren” (who he adores) will straighten his ass out.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:13:58pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

Frogs, goats, …I also like rats. I haven’t gotten another pet rat since me and Mr. w started living together. Some people experience rats as something other then pets when they are kids.

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I used to have a couple of rats, I think I’ve mentioned. They were adorable. I was deathly allergic tho.

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Mattand  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:17:11pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

I think the highlight of the clip is the first time that Victor corrected her, that frozen look on her face that says “Brain Not Found: Abort, Retry, Fail?”.

This is genius.

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nines09  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:17:41pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

You got that right.

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Mattand  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:19:53pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

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BlueGrl21  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:27:18pm

re: #94 Mattand

Do beavers ever hang out with raccoons? Because I see the paw prints of Rocket Raccoon all over this leg thing.

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majii  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:27:57pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

“But EVERYONE should be in favor. “

Although this is true, there are members of Congress who don’t care about domestic abuse/violence, that is, until it happens to them or to one of their loved ones. They didn’t care enough to help the residents of Flint, but they acted quickly when it was discovered that lead was in one of the buildings they use. Also, look at how long it took the GOPers to vote to renew the VAW Act, and even then, not all of them voted for it. They are quick to say how much they care about this or that in public, and just as quick to vote against it in Congress.

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Mattand  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:30:44pm

re: #95 BlueGrl21

Do beavers ever hang out with raccoons? Because I see the paw prints of Rocket Raccoon all over this leg thing.

Perfect place to hide a level 4 plasma blaster!

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b.d.  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:31:27pm

re: #56 Lidane

READY! FIRE! AIM!

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Of course Hannity wants Hillary to win, it will make his job easier.

Remember when the wingnuts were trying to blame all of the US government’s problems on Harry Reid? It wasn’t very pretty.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:31:54pm

re: #95 BlueGrl21

Do beavers ever hang out with raccoons? Because I see the paw prints of Rocket the Racoon all over this leg thing.

The beavers traded the racoons two cans of Coors for it.

(The beavers were a bit drunk, and the raccoons couldn’t find a second leg to help them drive a car)

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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:32:50pm

re: #90 BeachDem

You know I dearly love Pierce, but he definitely has and has always had a bug up his ass about Hillary. And he was a pretty strong Bernie supporter (but never a “bro.”)

The other day he said that if she sought or even accepted an endorsement from Kissinger, he (Pierce) would not vote for her.

His regulars gave him some shit about that in the comments, but I don’t think he’s changed his mind.

I’m kind of disappointed, and hope that if her persists in that bit of idiocy that “Senator Professor Warren” (who he adores) will straighten his ass out.

I gotta lot of respect for Pierce, but I also think he’s one of those aging progressives that put their ego on the line when they threw their support behind Bernie and took his loss as a bruise to said ego. So he’s like a lot of Bernie’s non-Bro supporters I’ve heard since the convention: Grudging in his support, looking for reasons to feel as though he was right to oppose her, but willing to speak in her defense when they find the charges made against her particularly stupid/insane.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:33:03pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

My take is that the purists are up in arms because Hillz did not immediately and completely disavow the endorsement.

Here is an article that is pretty good and gets at some of what I was looking for. Even mentions Charles Pierce. Its by Michael Tomasky at the Daily Beast who always seems to be a realistic writer and less prone to foaming at the mouth.

Esquire - Hillary Clinton Has Not Sought Henry Kissinger’s Support. But So What if She Had?

Hillary Clinton Has Not Sought Henry Kissinger’s Support. But So What if She Had?

The real issue here isn’t who she’s praised or who endorses her, but what kind of foreign policy president she would be.

First things first: A source close to the Hillary Clinton campaign tells me that there has been no outreach to Henry Kissinger. This whole welter of outrage started when Politico reported the other day, according to their own unnamed “person close to Clinton, that “feelers” had been “sent out” to Kissinger, George Schultz, James Baker, and Condoleezza Rice. My source says that maybe someone affiliated with the campaign—a person in a foreign-policy advisory role, say, who number in the hundreds—put out such a feeler but insisted that no one with real authority, a John Podesta or Jake Sullivan or what have you, had made any such overtures.

But the hubbub is real. What’s it about? At bottom, it’s about the vast distrust and suspicion of Clinton in certain left quarters, ever on the lookout for signs that she’s going to sell out or cave in or start World War III. Alas, her record does give us a few reasons to decide that vigilance along these lines is prudent and required. But this big a fuss—my pal Charles Pierce at Esquire went so far as to say that if she accepts the backing of the old abattoiriste, he’s voting for Gary Johnson—over one endorsement? (Charlie lives in Massachusetts, which, as he notes, Clinton couldn’t lose if “she drank a polyjuice potion and campaigned here transformed into Alex Rodriguez.”

- - CUT - - there’s more!

There sure are a lot of people taking liberties in their reporting. Frankly Pierce I think blew it in his piece at Esquire.

I guess everyone is capable of losing their shit this go round. I am wondering what the fuck is in America’s water? Sure there has always been craziness involved in our politics. But it is bad crazy this time.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:33:16pm

re: #93 nines09

You got that right.

I had a friend in college from St. Louis who told me about being chased down the street by a rat. He wouldn’t enter my dorm room even if I covered my rat’s cage.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:34:42pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:36:32pm

re: #90 BeachDem

You know I dearly love Pierce, but he definitely has and has always had a bug up his ass about Hillary. And he was a pretty strong Bernie supporter (but never a “bro.”)

The other day he said that if she sought or even accepted an endorsement from Kissinger, he (Pierce) would not vote for her.

His regulars gave him some shit about that in the comments, but I don’t think he’s changed his mind.

I’m kind of disappointed, and hope that if her persists in that bit of idiocy that “Senator Professor Warren” (who he adores) will straighten his ass out.

Thanks BeachDem!

I admire your consistency and honesty. You would be a good person to work with on a campaign.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:37:36pm

re: #96 majii

“But EVERYONE should be in favor. “

Although this is true, there are members of Congress who don’t care about domestic abuse/violence, that is, until it happens to them or to one of their loved ones. They didn’t care enough to help the residents of Flint, but they acted quickly when it was discovered that lead was in one of the buildings they use. Also, look at how long it took the GOPers to vote to renew the VAW Act, and even then, not all of them voted for it. They are quick to say how much they care about this or that in public, and just as quick to vote against it in Congress.

Lack of empathy is a disease that needs a lot of research.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:39:58pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

For a long time, I used to think of the wingnuts living in an alternate reality as a bit of a joke. Katrina Pierson and her ilk are proving that it’s no laughing matter - they do indeed inhabit an alternate reality, one that bears no semblance whatsoever to objective reality.

It’s quite fascinating from a psychological point of view: It’s analogous to observing a religious cult.

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Lidane  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:40:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:40:21pm

Frankly I got the vibe from Pierce’s piece that he wanted an excuse to not vote for Clinton. I like his work but I dunno. I just think too many progressive types do that. Maybe I’m wrong about him. Honestly, I think many progressives don’t even understand what Kisisnger actually is. I saw the Pierce article posted by a friend on FB and a lot pf people were saying Kissinger was a Neo-Con in the comments. He’s not nor has ever been one. I understand with why Kissinger is despised of course.I just think there are a lot bigger issues than HRC accepting an endorsement from a 90+ year old who has no real influence on her policies.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:40:44pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

I had a friend in college from St. Louis who told me about being chased down the street by a rat. He wouldn’t enter my dorm room even if I covered my rat’s cage.

Little did he realize the rat was heading back home in the same direction!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:41:57pm

Out of here. Hold down da fort!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:42:30pm

re: #101 ObserverArt

The rest of the world is not much better.

Things have gotten batshit since Bowie’s death.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:43:06pm

re: #106 Dr Lizardo

For a long time, I used to think of the wingnuts living in an alternate reality as a bit of a joke. Katrina Pierson and her ilk are proving that it’s no laughing matter - they do indeed inhabit an alternate reality, one that bears no semblance whatsoever to objective reality.

It’s quite fascinating from a psychological point of view: It’s analogous to observing a religious cult.

I would argue that the GOP is a religious cult.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:43:34pm

re: #111 Ziggy_TARDIS

The rest of the world is not much better.

Things have gotten batshit since Bowie’s death.

A human space oddity!

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:44:57pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Frankly I got the vibe from Pierce’s piece that he wanted an excuse to not vote for Clinton. I like his work but I dunno. I just think too many progressive types do that. Maybe I’m wrong about him. Honestly, I think many progressives don’t even understand what Kisisnger actually is. I saw the Pierce article posted by a friend on FB and a lot pf people were saying Kissinger was a Neo-Con in the comments. He’s not nor has ever been one. I understand with why Kissinger is despised of course.I just think there are a lot bigger issues than HRC accepting an endorsement from a 90+ year old who has no real influence on her policies.

I don’t expect feminism from Esquire. They still bill themselves as a ‘men’s magazine’.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:45:13pm

Pierce is moving really close to the it-won’t-affect-me-if-she-loses line, which I hope he doesn’t cross.

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(alpuz)  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:45:15pm

re: #99 Pawn of the Oppressor

The beavers traded the racoons two cans of Coors for it.

(The beavers were a bit drunk, and the raccoons couldn’t find a second leg to help them drive a car)

I had to write that down. Drunken Beavers conspiring with raccoons to steal a fake leg?

Awesome. I’m sure there’s a shady Possum that’s in the mix. Probably smoking pallmals and orchestrating the whole deal in some shitty alley somewhere.

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BlueGrl21  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:45:42pm

re: #97 Mattand

Perfect place to hide a level 4 plasma blaster!

“Oh no, man, I didn’t really need his leg, just thought it would be funny. It was funny, right? Come on, that’s funny!”

Then the pissed off beaver shoved it into the dam and waddled off, vowing never again to listen to a smart-ass genetically engineered raccoon. Even if he did have a Level 4 plasma blaster.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:46:21pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

I don’t expect feminism from Esquire. They still bill themselves as a ‘men’s magazine’.

That’s quite true as well.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:47:24pm

re: #116 (alpuz)

I had to write that down. Drunken Beavers conspiring with raccoons to steal a fake leg?

Awesome. I’m sure there’s a shady Possum that’s in the mix. Probably smoking pallmals and orchestrating the whole deal in some shitty alley somewhere.

Protected by the skunks or course.

They are all in this thing together!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:47:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:47:32pm

re: #115 Belafon

Pierce is moving really close to the it-won’t-affect-me-if-she-loses line, which I hope he doesn’t cross.

Indeed, I really don’t like that attitude and I see it a lot from a lot of white male progressives. I guess in that sense I’m lucky that my Asperger’s makes me more empathetic than I would be otherwise. I mean I’d probably still be staunchly liberal if I didn’t have Asperger’s but I don’t think I would be as good at empathy.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:48:05pm

re: #112 Big Beautiful Door

I would argue that the GOP is a religious cult.

More of a political cult, but certainly with very strong religious overtones. It definitely seems to have adopted the sort of mindset you’d expect in an apocalyptic doomsday cult, which can be chalked up to the GOP’s long-standing association with Christian Fundies.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:48:54pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

I don’t expect feminism from Esquire. They still bill themselves as a ‘men’s magazine’.

Damn you wrench! Why you gotta be that way?!

: )

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:49:32pm

And the thing about Clinton is that we do have a record of what she might do because she’s taken nearly every job possible to prepare for president. Something none of the candidates have done until you go back to GHWB, and he was no where near as qualified has her. And her record might be more aggressive than some think they’d like, but I haven’t seen anything that’s different than any Democratic president in the 20th or 21st centuries.

People can’t require a woman to over qualify for president and then punish her for over qualifying.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:49:53pm

Here’s the thing though and what drove me nuts in the primary. Every terrible vote HRC made was scrunitized and used as proof as her being conniving and an triangulator. Bernie’s bad votes on immigration, the one vote on the toxic waste site in Texas, and especially his voting record on guns were just shrugged off him as him voting for his state’s interests and you know what I get that. I do but Bernie definitely got a pass in a way HRC didn’t. I think part of it was gender related but part of it was because his staunchest supporters wanted to make him into something he wasn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:51:02pm

I also really did not get why HRC got heat for the 1994 Crime Bill while Bernie got none.

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BeachDem  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:51:29pm

re: #104 ObserverArt

Thanks BeachDem!

I admire your consistency and honesty. You would be a good person to work with on a campaign.

Aw shuck, thanks. You’ll love this—we’re working on lining up a speaker for our county fundraising dinner in September. Our new chair thought the perfect person would be NINA TURNER. I was up in Boston when I heard that idea, but I’m guessing they could hear me scream NO quite clearly.

Bernie support and crass comments made by her aside, what is this fascination with her on the left? She’s won one election when she ran unopposed, then abandoned ship to run her idiotic campaign for SoS. I just don’t understand why people think she’s all that and a bag of chips. One of my friends, who is actually a strong Hillary supporter, calls Nina her “Shero” (a term that makes my teeth hurt) and I just don’t get it.

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gwangung  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:51:46pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

I also really did not get why HRC got heat for the 1994 Crime Bill while Bernie got none.

Not sure “sociopathic” is all that much better than “super predator.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:54:01pm

Honestly, I really think the reason why the progressive left struggles to make a real impact isn’t because of the issues they stand for. It’s because of how they approach the issues. They’re like the TP in that way I’m afraid. It’s about purity and grudges rather than what we can learn. Yes, it’s true that HRC wasn’t always pro-SSM but it’s also true as Barney Frank explained that her as first lady marching in a gay pride parade meant a lot to LGBT Americans. These types that hold stuff against her just focus on voting records rather than what people do beyond votes and I think that’s where Bernie really fell short. I have no doubt that Bernie Sanders values civil rights for all Americans but when your retort to questions about what his plans are is to point to the voting record or to tell us about how Bernie marched in the Civil Rights movement, you’re really not answering the question. Clinton has worked with people from a wide variety of background going back decades.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:54:20pm

re: #128 gwangung

Not sure “sociopathic” is all that much better than “super predator.”

I missed that.

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majii  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:55:58pm

re: #112 Big Beautiful Door

I would argue that the GOP is a [faux] religious cult.

I think this because I notice how easy it is for them to forget about those Christian values they say they “love” more than anything when it comes to politics. For example, they say they’re the party of God but they accept all of the lies that Trump tells and spend quite a bit of time justifying them, and the adulterous, thrice-married duo of Trump and Gingrich are held in high esteem. Fox News and RW media has done a hatchet job on their brains to the point where they will believe all kinds of BS. They create their own reality, and no matter how many times they’re told the truth, they’ll reject it because they’ve been programmed to not believe anything a “libtard” says.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:56:23pm

re: #128 gwangung

Not sure “sociopathic” is all that much better than “super predator.”

Yeah, but it’s easy to forget that 1992-3 was the peak of the rise in crime that began decades earlier, and also that many black leaders were talking about crack cocaine as a genocidal threat to the black community. 24 years later, and crime’s been declining from that peak and we’re left evaluating people’s statements at the time in the context of that decline, forgetting that AT THE TIME, there was no reason to assume that violent crime would not simply keep increasing.

And say what you will, Sanders voted for the damned thing, so he gets no pass.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:56:29pm

re: #131 majii

I would argue that the GOP is a [faux] religious cult.

I think this because I notice how easy it is for them to forget about those Christian values they say they “love” more than anything when it comes to politics. For example, they say they’re the party of God but they accept all of the lies that Trump tells and spend quite a bit of time justifying them, and the adulterous, thrice-married duo of Trump and Gingrich are held in high esteem. Fox News and RW media has done a hatchet job on their brains to the point where they will believe all kinds of BS. They create their own reality, and no matter how many times they’re told the truth, they’ll reject it because they’ve been programmed to not believe anything a “libtard” says.

So true about how they create their own reality.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:57:26pm

re: #124 Belafon

And the thing about Clinton is that we do have a record of what she might do because she’s taken nearly every job possible to prepare for president. Something none of the candidates have done until you go back to GHWB, and he was no where near as qualified has her. And her record might be more aggressive than some think they’d like, but I haven’t seen anything that’s different than any Democratic president in the 20th or 21st centuries.

People can’t require a woman to over qualify for president and then punish her for over qualifying.

See, there is the problem. The far left people are saying Hillary is not a Democrat. They are saying she is a centrist moderate Republican with neo-con tendencies. They use the appearance of her record, built by 25 years of Clinton bashing, to prove she is no liberal progressive.

In other words not as pure as the driven Bernie!

And yes, there has been discussion here at LGF touching on what really is a Democrat and how leftist/liberal/progressive have they ever been.

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Lidane  Aug 13, 2016 • 1:58:22pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:00:29pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

So true about how they create their own reality.

And it’s a really shitty reality, at that - predatory gangs of blacks and Messicans out to rape white women, 81% of white murder victims killed by blacks, an ongoing war on cops, terrible inflation just around the corner despite unemployment being near Great Depression levels, gangs of Moozlimz shooting up Americans all over, while Obama plots how to take away all the weapons and throw Conservatives in FEMA camps.

Christ, if your reality was that distorted, Donald Trump might actually make sense!!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:00:52pm

re: #131 majii

I would argue that the GOP is a [faux] religious cult.

I think this because I notice how easy it is for them to forget about those Christian values they say they “love” more than anything when it comes to politics. For example, they say they’re the party of God but they accept all of the lies that Trump tells and spend quite a bit of time justifying them, and the adulterous, thrice-married duo of Trump and Gingrich are held in high esteem. Fox News and RW media has done a hatchet job on their brains to the point where they will believe all kinds of BS. They create their own reality, and no matter how many times they’re told the truth, they’ll reject it because they’ve been programmed to not believe anything a “libtard” says.

It is very common for religious cults to be led by amoral sociopaths who violate all the norms imposed on the faithful. For example, Jim Jones and David Koresh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:01:14pm

re: #135 Lidane

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YAY!!! The US is BY NO MEANS a fencing powerhouse. We’re lucky when we medal AT ALL.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:01:45pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

See, there is the problem. The far left people are saying Hillary is not a Democrat. They are saying she is a centrist moderate Republican with neo-con tendencies. They use the appearance of her record, built by 25 years of Clinton bashing, to prove she is no liberal progressive.

In other words not as pure as the driven Bernie!

And yes, there has been discussion here at LGF touching on what really is a Democrat and how leftist/liberal/progressive have they ever been.

I don’t see how you can be considered a moderate Republican with neo-con tendencies if you don’t compare against Democrats.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:01:53pm
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Belafon  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:04:27pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Assange is just angry we keep publishing his address: Ecuador Embassy, London, England.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:05:28pm

re: #136 Blind Frog Belly White

And it’s a really shitty reality, at that - predatory gangs of blacks and Messicans out to rape white women, 81% of white murder victims killed by blacks, an ongoing war on cops, terrible inflation just around the corner despite unemployment being near Great Depression levels, gangs of Moozlimz shooting up Americans all over, while Obama plots how to take away all the weapons and throw Conservatives in FEMA camps.

Christ, if your reality was that distorted, Donald Trump might actually make sense!!!

Yep.

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majii  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:06:30pm

re: #127 BeachDem

Re: NinaTurner

I cannot stand her. I used to like her before she became so divisive. Once she began trying to tear the Democratic Party to pieces because she and her buddies didn’t get that Bernie-themed rocking horse they wanted, I was through with her. It takes a lot for someone to turn me off to them, but she did it with her many appearances on TV and her authoritarian mindset in reference to Sen. Sanders. I don’t like bullies, and I don’t like others trying to tell me for whom to vote. People like these piss me off, and then, I write them off. After Nina Turner showed her true colors, I am unwilling to listen to anything she has to say. Political parties don’t win elections listening to divisive people like her. Being idealistic is OK up to a certain point, but cold hard reality always has a way of smacking one upside the head.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:08:07pm

re: #143 majii

Re: NinaTurner

I cannot stand her. I used to like her before she became so divisive. Once she began trying to tear the Democratic Party to pieces because she and her buddies didn’t get that Bernie-themed rocking horse they wanted, I was through with her. It takes a lot for someone to turn me off to them, but she did it with her many appearances on TV and her authoritarian mindset in reference to Sen. Sanders. I don’t like bullies, and I don’t like others trying to tell me for whom to vote. People like these piss me off, and then, I write them off. After Nina Turner showed her true colors, I am unwilling to listen to anything she has to say. Political parties don’t win elections listening to divisive people like her. Being idealistic is OK up to a certain point, but cold hard reality always has a way of smacking one upside the head.

I didn’t like how she treated the Clintons like they were the enemy when as BD has told us that both Hillary and Bill campaigned for her in an election she was wiped out in. I’m not saying she owed Hillary her support in the primaries but she had no right to treat them the way she did either.

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gwangung  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:10:29pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I didn’t like how she treated the Clintons like they were the enemy when as BD has told us that both Hillary and Bill campaigned for her in an election she was wiped out in. I’m not saying she owed Hillary her support in the primaries but she had no right to treat them the way she did either.

Well, I’m thinking she has the right. She just has to eat all the withering contempt, scorn and ridicule she rightfully is reaping from her behavior.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:11:44pm

re: #145 gwangung

Well, I’m thinking she has the right. She just has to eat all the withering contempt, scorn and ridicule she rightfully is reaping from her behavior.

True, actions should have consequences in that sense if I’m understanding you right. I mean I have more respect for Bernie’s other elected and formerly elected supporters like Keith Ellison than I do Turner.

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majii  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:11:59pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

“I didn’t like how she treated the Clintons like they were the enemy when as BD has told us that both Hillary and Bill campaigned for her in an election she was wiped out in.”

She not only bit the hands that fed her, she chewed them up and spat out the bloody, mangled, remnants.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:12:23pm

And agh don’t get me started on a guy like Cornel West. Gets put on the platform committee and then immediately endorses Jill Stein.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:14:05pm

re: #127 BeachDem

Aw shuck, thanks. You’ll love this—we’re working on lining up a speaker for our county fundraising dinner in September. Our new chair thought the perfect person would be NINA TURNER. I was up in Boston when I heard that idea, but I’m guessing they could hear me scream NO quite clearly.

Bernie support and crass comments made by her aside, what is this fascination with her on the left? She’s won one election when she ran unopposed, then abandoned ship to run her idiotic campaign for SoS. I just don’t understand why people think she’s all that and a bag of chips. One of my friends, who is actually a strong Hillary supporter, calls Nina her “Shero” (a term that makes my teeth hurt) and I just don’t get it.

I think the far left sees her as a Trump-like figure as the far right has often seen Trump. She is brash, tells it like it is and speaks her mind for them.

Being here in Ohio’s capitol city, I’ve sure had to listen to a lot of Nina Turner.

Maybe it really is like good ol’ Gus used to post with his Circle of Derp graphic. There is a coming together of far right and far left.

Which could also mean there is not a lot of distance between Katrina Pierson and Nina Turner.

Also, you know what they say about name recognition in politics. How much does Nina Turner sound like Tina Turner?!

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nines09  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:15:44pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

I had a friend in college from St. Louis who told me about being chased down the street by a rat. He wouldn’t enter my dorm room even if I covered my rat’s cage.

I have a great story with a picture I dug up from when I was 8 years old in Philly. 1959 my block my house. Intersection caved in and took a cop down. He was later found close to the Delaware in the system. Steps from my house. It shows my street and my house and I think i’m in it. Maybe I’ll post a page. Story is, anyway, the resulting work just sent huge sewer rats all through the neighborhood. I personally had to kill one at age 8 in my basement. With an axe. Cornered him till he ran into one of the traps we had set. Walked him around the walls until BANG. Held him good enough so I could get him. I was scared out of my gourd, but more angry than anything, because they got into my rabbit cage and bit my pet rabbit. Right where a rat would. Back of the neck. I had to have my Blackie White rabbit sent to the SPCA to be put to sleep. Mean SOBs. Dad was at work. And he was one big mofo with a bad attitude. Big as cats and didn’t care if you was there or not. We would drop cobblestone on them at the dig. Sport.

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gwangung  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:16:00pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

True, actions should have consequences in that sense if I’m understanding you right. I mean I have more respect for Bernie’s other elected and formerly elected supporters like Keith Ellison than I do Turner.

Well, it’s the whole “political correctness” thing to me. Feel free to use whatever word you want; other people can think you’re a racist if you do use them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:16:54pm

re: #151 gwangung

Well, it’s the whole “political correctness” thing to me. Feel free to use whatever word you want; other people can think you’re a racist if you do use them.

Gotcha.

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BeachDem  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:17:10pm

re: #147 majii

“I didn’t like how she treated the Clintons like they were the enemy when as BD has told us that both Hillary and Bill campaigned for her in an election she was wiped out in.”

She not only bit the hands that fed her, she chewed them up and spat out the bloody, mangled, remnants.

And yet the Berners, who claimed to honor integrity and loyalty, thought she’d be an ideal VP candidate and just “lurved” everything she said.

As I have said before, I just never saw what made her a “rock star” in the first place. In addition to her turning on the Clintons, she kind of left the Ohio Dem party, which nurtured and promoted her, high and dry as well.

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majii  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:17:12pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

“And agh don’t get me started on a guy like Cornel West. Gets put on the platform committee and then immediately endorses Jill Stein.”

I remember commenting here at LGF that CW is full of himself and always thinks he’s the smartest person in the room. I never understood why Sen. Sanders asked him to work on his campaign in the first place. He’s a long way from being highly-regarded by most Black Americans I know. Give me Rep. John Lewis any day of the week and twice on Sundays. The man not only talks the talk, he walks the walk.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:17:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:19:52pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

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Has he ever commented on the fact that a guy once in his employ literally pulled a gun on protesters? Nah self awareness isn’t for sMOTI

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:20:27pm

re: #150 nines09

I have a great story with a picture I dug up from when I was 8 years old in Philly. 1959 my block my house. Intersection caved in and took a cop down. He was later found close to the Delaware in the system. Steps from my house. It shows my street and my house and I think i’m in it. Maybe I’ll post a page. Story is, anyway, the resulting work just sent huge sewer rats all through the neighborhood. I personally had to kill one at age 8 in my basement. With an axe. Cornered him till he ran into one of the traps we had set. Walked him around the walls until BANG. Held him good enough so I could get him. I was scared out of my gourd, but more angry than anything, because they got into my rabbit cage and bit my pet rabbit. Right where a rat would. Back of the neck. I had to have my Blackie White rabbit sent to the SPCA to be put to sleep. Mean SOBs. Dad was at work. And he was one big mofo with a bad attitude. Big as cats and didn’t care if you was there or not. We would drop cobblestone on them at the dig. Sport.

Poor 8-year-old nines!

Page page page page!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:20:51pm

re: #153 BeachDem

And yet the Berners, who claimed to honor integrity and loyalty, thought she’d be an ideal VP candidate and just “lurved” everything she said.

As I have said before, I just never saw what made her a “rock star” in the first place. In addition to her turning on the Clintons, she kind of left the Ohio Dem party, which nurtured and promoted her, high and dry as well.

They did the same thing with Gabbard. Their only qualifications were that they had endorsed Bernie. I thought it was pathetic. I mean I’m sorry but being a VP is much more than that. Yes, Kaine was a staunch Clinton supporter but he’s also someone from a key state with governing and legislative experience.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:21:04pm

re: #137 Big Beautiful Door

It is very common for religious cults to be led by amoral sociopaths who violate all the norms imposed on the faithful. For example, Jim Jones and David Koresh.

Or, Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart. Cults? Depends on viewpoint.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:21:27pm

re: #154 majii

“And agh don’t get me started on a guy like Cornel West. Gets put on the platform committee and then immediately endorses Jill Stein.”

I remember commenting here at LGF that CW is full of himself and always thinks he’s the smartest person in the room. I never understood why Sen. Sanders asked him to work on his campaign in the first place. He’s a long way from being highly-regarded by most Black Americans I know. Give me Rep. John Lewis any day of the week and twice on Sundays. The man not only talks the talk, he walks the walk.

Definitely. He just seemed very obnoxious and egotistical.

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gwangung  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:22:17pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:22:43pm

re: #139 Belafon

I don’t see how you can be considered a moderate Republican with neo-con tendencies if you don’t compare against Democrats.

Have you not come across that thinking? I sure have and to varying degrees.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:23:32pm
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BeachDem  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:24:28pm

re: #154 majii

“And agh don’t get me started on a guy like Cornel West. Gets put on the platform committee and then immediately endorses Jill Stein.”

I remember commenting here at LGF that CW is full of himself and always thinks he’s the smartest person in the room. I never understood why Sen. Sanders asked him to work on his campaign in the first place. He’s a long way from being highly-regarded by most Black Americans I know. Give me Rep. John Lewis any day of the week and twice on Sundays. The man not only talks the talk, he walks the walk.

John Lewis is definitely the finest. (He’s who I wanted to have at our fundraiser—I even offered to pay all of his expenses if they could get him. Sadly, he had another commitment that weekend.)

I was pretty sympathetic to Bernie supporters until they dissed John Lewis and tried to put Bernie’s civil rights activites on equal footing. As if. That was it for me.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:24:29pm

re: #159 ObserverArt

Or, Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart. Cults? Depends on viewpoint.

Lyndon LaRouche. The pre-eminent political cult leader.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:24:50pm

Why is it Trump’s “really good people” are across the board either pathetic conspiracy nuts, clueless policy idiots, historical ignoramuses, transparent grifters, or a horrible combination of any or all of these traits?

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:25:20pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I didn’t like how she treated the Clintons like they were the enemy when as BD has told us that both Hillary and Bill campaigned for her in an election she was wiped out in. I’m not saying she owed Hillary her support in the primaries but she had no right to treat them the way she did either.

Self interest is one powerful drug.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:25:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:25:56pm

re: #164 BeachDem

John Lewis is definitely the finest. (He’s who I wanted to have at our fundraiser—I even offered to pay all of his expenses if they could get him. Sadly, he had another commitment that weekend.)

I was pretty sympathetic to Bernie supporters until they dissed John Lewis and tried to put Bernie’s civil rights activites on equal footing. As if. That was it for me.

The dissing of John Lewis was honestly the beginning of the end for me. I mean I had started to see them as well meaning but perhaps just overtly idealistic till then.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:26:16pm

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

Lyndon LaRouche. The pre-eminent political cult leader.

I cannot believe he is still alive.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:28:05pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:29:16pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

And Gabbard is incredibly questionable, especially with her links to the BJP. Unfortunately, another seems to be in the wings with Ro Khanna.

Considering how the BJP is treating Christians and Muslims, anyone even vaguely associated with them in the US, I would consider to be a massive bigot, especially against Muslims. And Gabbard has a history of being a bigot to Muslims.

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majii  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:30:07pm

re: #166 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Re: Trump’s surrogates.

They’re the best in Trump’s opinion because they have a proven track record of selling BS. Trump said recently that he really, really liked the GOP primaries but not the General Election. During the GOP Presidential Primary, Trump surrogates like Pierson could just run to Fox and peddle BS and never be challenged about anything they said.

Life in the real world is hard.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:31:41pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

I cannot believe he is still alive.

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nines09  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:32:59pm

re: #157 wrenchwench

1959 at an intersection of 5th and Clearfield Streets it all goes horribly wrong.

I’m just going to do this for now. From right to left; Kenny’s Hall=alleyway= 4th house up, is mine. Cobblestone and trolley and that shot is from the rag shop the author speaks of. I actually looked for this for years and was stunned to find a photo this good from 1959. Enjoy. I think I’m in the doorway? Or in the mix out front. I think I recognise people. Long ago and far away. Little dude.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:33:19pm

re: #172 Ziggy_TARDIS

And Gabbard is incredibly questionable, especially with her links to the BJP. Unfortunately, another seems to be in the wings with Ro Khanna.

Considering how the BJP is treating Christians and Muslims, anyone even vaguely associated with them in the US, I would consider to be a massive bigot, especially against Muslims. And Gabbard has a history of being a bigot to Muslims.

The funny thing is the Busters attacked Clinton for not always being pro-SSM when Gabbard was actually pretty anti-gay for a long time in the Hawaii state legislature. Plus there’s the fact she attacks the Obama administration from the right on FP. But hey she endorsed Bernie so she must be a great progressive. She wasn’t merely anti-SSM either but very hostile to LGBT rights. Now to Tulsi’s credit, she ahs come around on that since entering Congress but that’s the thing isn’t it? Clinton gets shit for not having been pro-SSM in a time where being anti-gay marriage referendums were used to re-elect Bush and then there’s what Gavin Newsome said about how HRC gave him her support when few elected Democrats were.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:33:20pm

re: #166 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Why is it Trump’s “really good people” are across the board either pathetic conspiracy nuts, clueless policy idiots, historical ignoramuses, transparent grifters, or a horrible combination of any or all of these traits?

The simple answer in my view: They are all chosen because they are reflections of him. And, many groups are similar in makeup to their leader.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:34:27pm

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

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simpsons larouche was right

My introduction to him. I had no idea who he was of course when I first saw this.

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Mattand  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:35:45pm

re: #150 nines09

I have a great story with a picture I dug up from when I was 8 years old in Philly. 1959 my block my house. Intersection caved in and took a cop down. He was later found close to the Delaware in the system. Steps from my house. It shows my street and my house and I think i’m in it. Maybe I’ll post a page. Story is, anyway, the resulting work just sent huge sewer rats all through the neighborhood. I personally had to kill one at age 8 in my basement. With an axe. Cornered him till he ran into one of the traps we had set. Walked him around the walls until BANG. Held him good enough so I could get him. I was scared out of my gourd, but more angry than anything, because they got into my rabbit cage and bit my pet rabbit. Right where a rat would. Back of the neck. I had to have my Blackie White rabbit sent to the SPCA to be put to sleep. Mean SOBs. Dad was at work. And he was one big mofo with a bad attitude. Big as cats and didn’t care if you was there or not. We would drop cobblestone on them at the dig. Sport.

Geez. I’ve only seen a few here and there in Center City, but nothing that huge. I do know someone who lives in Northern Liberties who said that when they started work on Sugar House Casino, all of the critters fled west from the river towards them.

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TedStriker  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:38:51pm

re: #164 BeachDem

John Lewis is definitely the finest. (He’s who I wanted to have at our fundraiser—I even offered to pay all of his expenses if they could get him. Sadly, he had another commitment that weekend.)

I was pretty sympathetic to Bernie supporters until they dissed John Lewis and tried to put Bernie’s civil rights activites on equal footing. As if. That was it for me.

Is it wrong for me to think that the Bernie and the Berners, as overwhelmingly white and male as they are, were not above using West and Turner as beards, just like the GOP, so they can say, “lookie, black people like us too!”?

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Split Ticket  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:41:00pm

re: #179 Mattand

I saw one running between the tracks while waiting for the evening train (Market-Frankford/Blue Line). It looked about the size of a small cat.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:41:46pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

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Video
My introduction to him. I had no idea who he was of course when I first saw this.

I first of LaRouche in the mid-to-late 1970’s, though I was quite young. One of the neighbors down the street was a big-time supporter and he’d always be going on about LaRouche’s ideas, even though I couldn’t entirely grasp what he was talking about. But he thought LaRouche was the “smartest man who’d ever lived”, I remember that.

LaRouche has been around a hell of a long time, that’s for sure.

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Mattand  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:41:53pm

re: #175 nines09

1959 at an intersection of 5th and Clearfield Streets it all goes horribly wrong.

I’m just going to do this for now. From right to left; Kenny’s Hall=alleyway= 4th house up, is mine. Cobblestone and trolley and that shot is from the rag shop the author speaks of. I actually looked for this for years and was stunned to find a photo this good from 1959. Enjoy. I think I’m in the doorway? Or in the mix out front. I think I recognise people. Long ago and far away. Little dude.

Wow. Never heard that story before. That’s one helluva sink hole.

Belated condolences to that cop’s family as well.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:42:57pm

Well, time for European Lizardom to call it a day. Have a good one.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:43:15pm

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

I first of LaRouche in the mid-to-late 1970’s, though I was quite young. One of the neighbors down the street was a big-time supporter and he’d always be going on about LaRouche’s ideas, even though I couldn’t entirely grasp what he was talking about. But he thought LaRouche was the “smartest man who’d ever lived”, I remember that.

LaRouche has been around a hell of a long time, that’s for sure.

It really is crazy to think he’s been around as long as he has and then there’s Grandma Phyills Schalfry who I thought had “only” been around since 1964 but some of Lizardom told me her real start was in 1952 attempting to stop Eisenhower from being nominated. I guess she was a diehard Taftite.

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worldknot  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:43:21pm
Is it wrong for me to think that the Bernie and the Berners, as overwhelmingly white and male as they are, were not above using West and Turner as beards, just like the GOP, so they can say, “lookie, black people like us too!”?

Wrong or not, you aren’t alone.

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Mattand  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:44:23pm

re: #181 Split Ticket

I saw one running between the tracks while waiting for the evening train (Market-Frankford/Blue Line). It looked about the size of a small cat.

Yeesh. I’ve seen some mice on the PATCO tracks, but nothing like that. Which is really weird, now that I think about it, since PATCO runs underneath both the El and the Broad Street Subway.

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majii  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:44:43pm

re: #180 TedStriker

“Is it wrong for me to think that the Bernie and the Berners, as overwhelmingly white and male as they are, were not above using West and Turner as beards, just like the GOP, so they can say “, lookie, black people like us too!”?”

I don’t think so. Speaking from the perspective of a Black American over 60 and being someone who is an observer of others, I can say that I think there was/is just as much gamesmanship on the parts of CW and NT as there was coming from from Sen. Sanders and the B & Bs. Some people do things not because they’re sincere or want to help others, but because they’re looking to benefit themselves in some way or another.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:45:12pm

Coverband friends had a gig nearby last night with a backup drummer. The guy was trying and he was adequate. Props for a last minute show for him. My friend jammed out pretty good on the 6 string to Sweet Emotion, starting at about 1:45 if anyone cares to watch. :)

Rumor Hazit - Bar 145 8/12/16

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:46:18pm

re: #162 ObserverArt

Have you not come across that thinking? I sure have and to varying degrees.

I have. I meant to make the statement to imply that if you’re not comparing against the record of Democratic presidents, then your analysis is incomplete.

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retired cynic  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:48:00pm

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

I first of LaRouche in the mid-to-late 1970’s, though I was quite young. One of the neighbors down the street was a big-time supporter and he’d always be going on about LaRouche’s ideas, even though I couldn’t entirely grasp what he was talking about. But he thought LaRouche was the “smartest man who’d ever lived”, I remember that.

LaRouche has been around a hell of a long time, that’s for sure.

We had a big run-in with them in Illinois back in the day. Got some people nominated with “plain jane” names against people with ethnic names running in the Democratic primary, and caused a heck of a mess.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:49:23pm

re: #180 TedStriker

Is it wrong for me to think that the Bernie and the Berners, as overwhelmingly white and male as they are, were not above using West and Turner as beards, just like the GOP, so they can say, “lookie, black people like us too!”?

If anything, it does indicate they didn’t know the lay of the land. And that indicates an issue. On the flip side it may indicate what West and Turner think too. A whole bunch of people using each other.

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:54:30pm

re: #190 Belafon

I have. I meant to make the statement to imply that if you’re not comparing against the record of Democratic presidents, then your analysis is incomplete.

Understood.

Here is how far I have seen the comments go. There really has not been a “real Democrat” since FDR, and Hillary is slightly right of Richard Nixon.

Yeah…that bad.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:55:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:56:22pm
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JDRhoades  Aug 13, 2016 • 2:58:42pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

Grudging in his support, looking for reasons to feel as though he was right to oppose her, but willing to speak in her defense when they find the charges made against her particularly stupid/insane.

Well, this has been my attitude towards Hillary for the past ten years or so, except I haven’t had to look far for reasons to oppose her. Reasons like her hawkish foreign policy and coziness with the people who destroyed our economy. Reason, however, which the wingers seem intent on ignoring in favor of stupid shit like “did she tip at a diner? Did she tip too much?”

And now, of course, the alternative is a man who’s batshit insane and getting crazier by the day, so, yeah, I guess I’m With Her.

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TedStriker  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:00:13pm

re: #186 worldknot

Wrong or not, you aren’t alone.

re: #188 majii

“Is it wrong for me to think that the Bernie and the Berners, as overwhelmingly white and male as they are, were not above using West and Turner as beards, just like the GOP, so they can say “, lookie, black people like us too!”?”

I don’t think so. Speaking from the perspective of a Black American over 60 and being someone who is an observer of others, I can say that I think there was/is just as much gamesmanship on the parts of CW and NT as there was coming from from Sen. Sanders and the B & Bs. Some people do things not because they’re sincere or want to help others, but because they’re looking to benefit themselves in some way or another.

re: #192 ObserverArt

If anything, it does indicate they didn’t know the lay of the land. And that indicates an issue. On the flip side it may indicate what West and Turner think too. A whole bunch of people using each other.

It makes sense that Bernie & the Berners, West, and Turner were all being cynical bastards and using each other: Bernie and the Berners using West and Turner as beards and bludgeons against Hillary, while West and Turner used Bernie and the Berners for media exposure.

Man, don’t they all just deserve each other?

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BeachDem  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:01:05pm

re: #180 TedStriker

Is it wrong for me to think that the Bernie and the Berners, as overwhelmingly white and male as they are, were not above using West and Turner as beards, just like the GOP, so they can say, “lookie, black people like us too!”?

Let’s not forget Killer Mike—the Berners were orgasmic over his Bernie love and thought that would lead to Bernie sweeping the South or some such crap.

Yeah—turned out to be a real prince.

Rapper and former prominent Sanders-backer Killer Mike thinks Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are “Tweedledee and Tweedledum,” and neither are fit to be President.

realclearpolitics.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:01:26pm

Just finished watching Time Bandits.
Most people knew him as R2D2.
I remember Kenny Baker best as Fidgit.

RIP

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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:01:49pm

Time to concentrate on what I really trying to do this afternoon. Go under the hood of a Woocommerce web store creation and try to figure out what CSS or Javascript is preventing me from gaining control over the shopping cart display page. It is a mess and seemingly hard to control…which makes no sense since I did a Woocommerce store before and didn’t have this particular issue.

Sigh. If anyone has had any experience at such…any assistance is more than welcome.

Lurking about…

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Split Ticket  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:04:33pm

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just found this on yahoo: yahoo.com

RIP Mr Baker.

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JDRhoades  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:06:28pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

Have they checked the kerning?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:07:53pm

re: #161 gwangung

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Have to point out, all those medals were won by African American WOMEN.

So…welcome to the Lady Pirates!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:08:25pm

Looks like Trump’s fans have started attacking Muslims…

Queens imam shot in the head, his assistant blasted in the chest in fatal attack near Ozone Park mosque

A lone gunman opened fire on a Queens imam and his assistant as the two walked after Saturday afternoon prayers, leaving one dead and the other critically wounded.

The gunshots rang out near the Al-Furqan Jame Masjid Mosque in Ozone Park, leaving both men lying on the ground in their own blood just a block from the house of worship, according to witnesses.

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retired cynic  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:09:36pm

Observer Art, you touched on my issues today in a way. I have less than two weeks to get a DVD ready for small-scale distribution (I’ll burn them myself on my Mac). Using Premiere Pro. Lots of experience with Photoshop and InDesign, but almost zip on Premiere. The videos are digitized versions of 16mm film from the 50s through 1981, some in good shape, some with color casts, and some badly damaged. Long story. So I have made progress learning PP and SpeedGrade enough to get some finished video, but have no clue how to prepare a DVD with a menu, and output it to burn for both Mac and PC and TV. Totally at sea!

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scottslemmons  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:15:23pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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Video

Ya know, I haven’t watched the American Horror Story series, because I don’t have a TV and have trouble keeping up with episodic TV anyway. But just based on those images, that looks really, really nice.

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nines09  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:18:51pm

re: #179 Mattand

Sugar House Casino was built in the old Shackamaxon area on “old” Delaware Ave where Jack Frost had that huge refinery. Hence the name….Seagrams had a distillery down there too and the Avenue was laced with RR tracks. I remember in the winter the “lumpers” and winos having burn barrels with pallets and sugar fires to keep warm. You cannot even find a vestige of the original Stetson Hat buildings along Germantown/5th/ and Montgomery. I would ride my bike all over and the waterfront intrigued me. At 11 years old I knew all of Fishtown, Kensington, and the waterfront. There was a huge Tioga terminal where at the end of Allegheny Ave in Port Richmond where a machine would take whole coal cars up and flip them over, dump the coal, into the trawler below. Immense. Cables everywhere, Come off the Ben Franklin, head up 5th. From Lehigh to Erie Ave was my playground. Germantown Ave to Kensington Ave. Knew every inch. Ah…long ago. Still that picture grabbed me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:25:20pm

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just finished watching Time Bandits.
Most people knew him as R2D2.
I remember Kenny Baker best as Fidgit.

RIP

And I think we can figure out which religion Fidgit preferred:

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:25:21pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:26:22pm

re: #205 retired cynic

Observer Art, you touched on my issues today in a way. I have less than two weeks to get a DVD ready for small-scale distribution (I’ll burn them myself on my Mac). Using Premiere Pro. Lots of experience with Photoshop and InDesign, but almost zip on Premiere. The videos are digitized versions of 16mm film from the 50s through 1981, some in good shape, some with color casts, and some badly damaged. Long story. So I have made progress learning PP and SpeedGrade enough to get some finished video, but have no clue how to prepare a DVD with a menu, and output it to burn for both Mac and PC and TV. Totally at sea!

I just did a quick google search using the terms “how to make a DVD with a menu on mac.”

It returned some free software (gotta watch that stuff…look for reviews should you go that route). I did see this: Free DVD Creator - best free dvd maker/ dvd menu creating on the…

It seems to be an free Mac app at the Mac App Store. (I’m a Windows user) I don’t know much about Apple Macs, but this may help.

Good luck!

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retired cynic  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:30:55pm

re: #210 ObserverArt

Thanks!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:38:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:39:10pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:42:30pm

Freepers reveal their fondest hopes and kinkiest fantasies:

Prediction Thread…So what will the News Headlines be 09 Nov 2016(day after Election Day)?

There is a notable focus on various enemies fleeing the country, along with election fraud, the prosecution of the Clintons, and some mention of the DNC assassination of Seth Rich (these allegations now being gospel at Freep, Wikileaks, and Russia Today.)

After Hillary Dropped Out, Trump Trounces Obama, the DNC’s Last Hope.

Hollywood Caravan Headed for Canada

The Media and Hollywood elites wiil have fled the country because Trump was elected and there will be no “news” because nobody left to report it.

Democrat Politicians Flee Country!

President Biden congratulates President-elect Trump.

Trump wins in a landslide!

Clintons arrested at Kennedy Airport will trying to board the Lolita Express to flee the country…

Obama has locked himself a White House bathroom, refuses to open door…

Supreme Court upholds Obama’s suspension of elections.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:42:56pm
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thedopefishlives  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:43:37pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:44:22pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:53:46pm

My own fantasy headlines:

Herstory made! Hillary wins in landslide!

Libertarian Johnson in historic second place finish, wins 23 electoral votes.

Trump shut out! Candidate fails to make concession speech.

Julian Assange expelled from embassy! Scotland Yard makes collar!

Alex Jones dead at 42, stroke suspected!

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2016 • 3:57:19pm

re: #218 Shiplord Kirel

My own fantasy headlines:

Herstory made! Hillary wins in landslide!

Libertarian Johnson in historic second place finish, wins 23 electoral votes.

Trump shut out! Candidate fails to make concession speech.

Julian Assange expelled from embassy! Scotland Yard makes collar!

Alex Jones dead at 42, stroke botched alien abduction suspected!

Sounds better.

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majii  Aug 13, 2016 • 4:00:09pm

re: #204 Ziggy_TARDIS

Some people have lost their minds, and they’re usually those who talk about how “exceptional” America is. I’ve said it before, and I’m saying it again—-there is nothing exceptional about gunning others down in the street because of their religious beliefs. Nothing. This breaks heart. Some Americans have been so brainwashed that they believe all kinds of mess about others’ religious beliefs. Instead of listening to the mess, they should be getting to know those who practice a religion different from their own. I met a guy from Turkey last week when I went to a convenience store near my home. He is the nicest guy. We talked about our families and Kemal Ataturk. It was as if we’d known each other for years. This is how you learn about those who are different from yourself—-you talk to them. I want the NYPD to catch this guy and prosecute him for committing a hate crime. Being black, I fully understand why some others in America are afraid for their lives everyday. It’s because one never knows when some brainwashed nut will decide to take your life for no reason at all. I’m sick of this happening, and I blame the politicians, pundits, blog owners, and newsreaders who push lies about other groups. I’m really tired. I’ve spent my entire life in a defensive mode, always looking to be attacked in one way or another. It has worn me out, but I keep going on and living my life. It hurts to be “othered” when you have done nothing wrong. The imam’s assistant was supposed to go to Pakistan in 10 days for his son’s wedding. I can imagine how devastated these guys’ families are. SMH.

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fern01  Aug 13, 2016 • 4:16:02pm

re: #81 ObserverArt

Still asking for a friend.

And that comes from an article by By Charles P. Pierce.

Said Pierce is not a Hillary fan.

Via BJ balloon-juice.com

“Oh, FFS. This is the kind of “Game over, man! Game over!” political delirium exemplified by Sullivan after Obama bombed at the first 2012 presidential debate. As should be obvious to any pol-watcher with Pierce’s experience, Clinton is trying to run up the score on He, Trump — she wants to utterly humiliate the shouty jack-o’-lantern by framing him as unacceptable to anyone who has ever played a role in government, regardless of party and ideology, thus giving wavering GOP voters an excuse not to vote for the serially offensive asshole. “

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 14, 2016 • 7:40:52am

re: #23 Skip Intro

Yeah, Donald, let’s have a talk about “non-existent unnamed sources”, shall we?

Well people are saying …

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 14, 2016 • 7:47:12am

re: #50 TedStriker

Sassy Trump? Is that like being one of the Spice Girls?

Gaudy Sassy Spice


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