Hilariously Sassy Trump in… “Lyin’ Trump!”
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Donald admits to the crowd that he lies to them. As usual, all Donald’s actual words…
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I can’t even listen to him like this (as funny as that guy is). I just find trumps words so damned offensive.
So, after he loses in November, will Trump finally pivot and apologize for all the racist shit he said or will he be afraid of retaliation from his base?
re: #1 MsJ
I can’t even listen to him like this (as funny as that guy is). I just find trumps words so damned offensive.
Don’t. I don’t. I haven’t listened to more than three sentences from Trump in one sitting since April. It’s all for show. I refuse to buy into it…or give him the satisfaction of my being offended by what he says.
re: #2 darthstar
Trump doesn’t believe in apologizing for anything. When he was asked if he ever asked God for forgiveness, he said he didn’t because he doesn’t think he ever does anything he needs to ask forgiveness for.
Trump is supported by all the right people.
Scott Lively:
christiantoday.comSo, granted that Reagan is dead and Putin is Russian, who’s the best candidate around? Yes - it’s Donald Trump. “The Bible does not teach the sort of moral perfectionism some have demanded of Trump as a prerequisite for their support, but on the contrary offers many examples of morally flawed men placed in leadership of civil government by God Himself. “
re: #3 darthstar
Don’t. I don’t. I haven’t listened to more than three sentences from Trump in one sitting since April. It’s all for show. I refuse to buy into it…or give him the satisfaction of my being offended by what he says.
Not trump himself, I never listen to him. I meant the guy who does these videos. He’s got a great, really funny voice. But I just can’t laugh at trumps words. I despise him with the heat of 1000 suns.
@TheRickWilson Thoughts on the potential impact of Trump’s speech tonight??
— David Kromelow (@dkrom59) August 17, 2016
None, really https://t.co/Wpuu5K9tN6
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) August 17, 2016
@TrumpsTaxes @dkrom59 speech was 8 minutes of bleh
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) August 17, 2016
re: #5 Nyet
Trump is supported by all the right people.
Methinks Scotty is confusing the Bible with Atlas Shrugged!
re: #2 darthstar
So, after he loses in November, will Trump finally pivot and apologize for all the racist shit he said or will he be afraid of retaliation from his base?
Neither Trump nor the Republican base will pivot. I fully expect them to double down on the racism by adding a heapin’ helpin’ of sexism as well…
re: #9 Joe Bacon
Neither Trump nor the Republican base will pivot. I fully expect them to double down on the racism by adding a heapin’ helpin’ of sexism as well…
If she wins, expect an uninterrupted barrage of sexism and irrational hate from the right. They won’t learn a goddamn thing from Trump losing.
re: #6 MsJ
Not trump himself, I never listen to him. I meant the guy who does these videos. He’s got a great, really funny voice. But I just can’t laugh at trumps words. I despise him with the heat of 1000 suns.
I don’t even watch the funny videos. Trump isn’t worth the effort.
re: #8 Joe Bacon
Methinks Scotty is confusing the Bible with Atlas Shrugged!
Nah, he’s right about the Bible. Look at the gallery of rogues it presents as upstanding prophets and kings of Israel and Judah.
It’d be nice to be really blase about the threat Trump presents people and tell everyone else that they shouldn’t be offended over the shit he says because he doesn’t mean any of it and it won’t matter, but then I remember that his words and the shit he’s doing is stirring up some very real racial hatred in this country and we’ve already seen violence as a result.
And it gets a little harder to just be chill about it.
re: #13 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Exactly. Even if tomorrow Trump calls a presser and says it was all an act to show how unhinged the GOP is, he would still be morally culpable.
re: #14 Nyet
Exactly. Even if tomorrow Trump calls a presser and says it was all an act to show how unhinged the GOP is, he would still be morally culpable.
I get being worn out by the politics and needing a break from it. I do.
Just …be honest about it.
re: #13 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I wish I could upding this a bunch of times.
You are a disgrace to the United States and you will be crushed come November @realDonaldTrump
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 17, 2016
re: #12 Nyet
Nah, he’s right about the Bible. Look at the gallery of rogues it presents as upstanding prophets and kings of Israel and Judah.
Not sure that most of those can be said to be held up as good. After all isn’t their lack of morality why so many of the prophets were sent to remind them of the ways of God?
Still, an interesting article. Thank you for sharing it.
Republicans, just a crazy idea, but maybe stop asking old rich white guys whats best for the poor and minorities.
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) August 17, 2016
The Blue Cut Fire started this morning at 10 A.M.
#BlueCutFire update
-15,000 acres
-80,000+ residents evacuated
-1450 firefighters dispatched
… pic.twitter.com/b2YRNjDH5Z— Annelize Bester (@AnnelizeBester) August 17, 2016
via @NPR here’s the latest on the #BlueCutFire that’s forced an estimated 80K people to evacuate east of Los Angeles https://t.co/c2R1Rcsmei
— Kirk Siegler (@KirkSiegler) August 17, 2016
#bluecutfire 9:26pm UPDATE:
15,000acres
SEE LISTS FOR MANDATORY EVACS/RD CLOSUREShttps://t.co/DTmSyVfUNY #calfire pic.twitter.com/lgZBjFJxGn— amend citizensunited (@umadrants) August 17, 2016
#breaking just found out #BlueCutFire is now at 18000 acres and night flying helicopters are doing water drops pic.twitter.com/JY0NFVYlDq
— Chris Tarpening (@Tarp1969) August 17, 2016
Trump Tells Black People “This Is For Your Own Good This Will Hurt Me More Than It Hurts You You’ll Thank Me When You Grow Up”
re: #11 darthstar
Trump isn’t worth the effort.
You’ll be sorry you ever said this if he’s elected. DON’T. GET. HAPPY.
How did we miss this.
@realDonaldTrump releases obviously fake doctor’s letter! https://t.co/gtGRkQDAuo
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) August 17, 2016
re: #21 Single-handed sailor
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Good thing that the Cali drought and climate change have nothing to do with this.
By the way, we’ve gotten 5.5 inches of rain at my house in the last four days. Could y’all use some?
Our reservoirs are full. We don’t need it.
please don’t feed the bears… they’ll just get used to people taking care of them and end up playing bass in a band pic.twitter.com/i49BAqbfNa
— jay bentley (@jay_bentley) August 17, 2016
re: #25 austin_blue
Good thing that the Cali drought and climate change have nothing to do with this.
By the way, we’ve gotten 5.5 inches of rain at my house in the last four days. Could y’all use some?
Our reservoirs are full. We don’t need it.
Fascinating look at 60-Day rainfall analysis shows HUGE dichotomy between CA & LA. #BlueCutFire #LouisianaFlood pic.twitter.com/UVyFgfuqlZ
— Steve Bowen (@SteveBowenWx) August 17, 2016
We haven’t had rain here for a good 90 days.
re: #27 Single-handed sailor
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We haven’t had rain here for a good 90 days.
Yeah, but your reality is bad science and what you are experiencing is not real.
Fuckwit Republicans.
re: #26 teleskiguy
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re: #29 TedStriker
Q: What do you call a bass player in a three-piece suit?
A: “Defendant.”
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Booked the plane tickets for this year’s Christmas travels.
Ugh. Going home is so expensive.
re: #3 darthstar
Don’t. I don’t. I haven’t listened to more than three sentences from Trump in one sitting since April. It’s all for show. I refuse to buy into it…or give him the satisfaction of my being offended by what he says.
This is such a weird reaction. We’ve been given a window into the raw thought stream of a guy who has been an obvious racist for an incredibly long time and you refuse to believe what you’re seeing is genuine because why exactly? Like you really think the guy who was sued by the Nixon DOJ for refusing to rent to blacks is just putting on a show? Like the guy who reportedly had black employees removed from his sight when he toured his casinos is going to magically transform into a non racist once his candidacy ends? Like the guy who has steadfastly refused to believe Obama was legitimately born in this country despite all evidence to the contrary is going to put back on the thinly constructed veneer of respectability and THAT will be the real Trump, not the raging ego driven narcissistic bigot we see before us bathing in the applause of his adoring, atavistic white fans? Like the guy who has demonstrated an utter inability to pivot when pivoting is what he absolutely needs to do both politically and electorally is just faking his entire persona?
I seriously wonder about the perceptive filters you apply to the reality in front of you in order to maintain the hot take bakery that is your brain.
re: #32 goddamnedfrank
This is such a weird reaction. We’re been given a window into the raw thought stream of a guy who has been an obvious racist for an incredibly long time and you refuse to believe what you’re seeing is genuine because why exactly? Like you really think the guy who was sued by the Nixon DOJ for refusing to rent to blacks is just putting on a show? Like the guy who reportedly had black employees removed from his sight when he toured his casinos is going to magically transform into a non racist once his candidacy ends? Like the guy who has steadfastly refused to believe Obama was legitimately born in this country despite all evidence to the contrary is going to put back on the thinly constructed veneer of respectability and THAT will be the real Trump, not the raging ego driven narcissistic bigot we see before us bathing in the applause of his adoring, atavistic white fans? Like the guy who has demonstrated an utter inability to pivot when pivoting is what he absolutely needs to do both politically and electorally is just faking his entire persona?
I seriously wonder about the perceptive filters you apply to the reality in front of you in order to maintain the hot take bakery that is your brain.
This is an articulate and wonderfully written response that I wanted to say in this tweet:
Nope. As long as he’s within spitting distance of the White House he cannot be ignored. Period. @darthstar99
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2016
goddamnedfrank, you’re somethin’ else. Glad to know you.
Trump’s surrogate thinks he’s Xerxes from 300.
“Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump” -Omarosa Manigault— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 17, 2016
Just when I thought things couldn’t get any creepier Omorosa came along and was like CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 17, 2016
re: #34 goddamnedfrank
Not fascistic at all. Omarosa: Critics will have to ‘bow down’ to President Trump https://t.co/bEqKA6kCON pic.twitter.com/5Betx8cuKQ
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 17, 2016
Trump officially brings Breitbart on to his campaign the night before his first classified briefing. You know that crap is getting leaked.
— Kyle Foley (@KFoleyFL) August 17, 2016
Is Steve Bannon going to step down from running Breitbart to maintain their journalistic integrity, independence and fairness HAHAHAHAHAHA!
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 17, 2016
Motel 6 Victorville gouging stranded travelers #BlueCutFire pic.twitter.com/LZp4WYl8ca
— Joe Gomez (@joegomez) August 17, 2016
Motherfuckers, $300 for a room at Motel fucking 6?
@CNNPolitics Of course, Mr. and Mrs. Khan sent their patriotic son off to war just to set up a future confrontation. #GoldStarFamilies
— Passim (@TValkenet) 16 August 2016
More pathetic Trump surrogates placing blame on #GoldStarFamilies - how disrespectful! #NeverTrump https://t.co/XkCALm81SY
— foxxden (@onlyonebran) 17 August 2016
.@EPN560 on #Periscope: #BlueCutFire Train trestle burning (UP) https://t.co/bqvq1keqRS
— jwb14730 (@jwb14730) August 17, 2016
@SimonMaloy @puppymnkey Rick Perry is a Lone Star moron. #rickperry #goldstarmoms #goldstarfamilies #goldstardads #gop #foxnews
— MugWumps (@mugwumps2016) 17 August 2016
Yes, the guy who took Breitbart & turned it into a playground for alt-right anti-semites is the dude who will turn Trump’s campaign around.
— Frankly My Dear … (@goddamnedfrank) August 17, 2016
No wonder Ivanka is vacationing in Croatia, she needed to get away from the clown show for awhile.
re: #43 goddamnedfrank
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No wonder Ivanka is vacationing in Croatia, she needed to get away from the clown show for awhile.
She is still recovering from all those nasty lies the Liberal Media told about her…
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Screw you, Rick Perry, what have you sacrificed? #goldstarfamily https://t.co/7vqJn0cRdT
— Sharon (@Sharonsayswhat) 17 August 2016
This breaks my heart and enrages me at the same time. This family deserves our respect. #khan #goldstarfamily https://t.co/VwasSxUTex
— Jesse lee soffer (@jesseleesoffer) 12 August 2016
As a child, I loved to emulate what I saw in films. After “Terminator 2” came out, I’d morph into liquid metal and steal police helicopters.
— Mark Leggett (@markleggett) August 17, 2016
Attention @GovernorPerry … The Khan’s pass was anything but free! #PipeDown #JustGetOnDownTheRoad #GoldStarFamily #Respect #HumayunKahn
— Jenifer (@supernovagyrl) 17 August 2016
re: #46 Anymouse
All DT had to do was acknowledge the son’s sacrifice and say that he disagreed with the parents’ views. But he had to respond to a personal attack with a personal attack.
He has been played for a fool and now his supporters are (again) scrambling to justify and relativize his actions.
re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
All DT had to do was acknowledge the son’s sacrifice and say that he disagreed with the parents’ views. But he had to respond to a personal attack with a personal attack.
He has been played for a fool and now people are (again) scrambling to justify and relativize his actions.
Yup, or even simply ignore what was said.
Note there was a Gold Star Mother at the Republican National Convention the week before, who took Hillary Clinton to task from the GOP stage. Mrs. Clinton’s response? She left her alone.
No claims of “using her as bait.” None of the derp that has come out from Mr. Trump, his surrogates, and his apologists in the Republican Party.
According to FiveThirtyEight’s prediction chart, my district is farthest to the right (most likely to vote for Trump). I am truly concerned about having the only car in my county (and a very recognisable one at that) with Gold Star Family plates.
If you turn your head sideways, it’s like @AngryBlackLady, by freeping their poll, is giving them the finger. pic.twitter.com/RXTuTVv7AZ
— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) August 16, 2016
I am reading the thread about Trump’s speech last night. Since he was using a teleprompter and was trying to be disciplined to the written speech (no “crooked Hillary” for example), did he do his asides to the crowd between major points?
LOLWUT? “Ultra-Liberal?” I’m a member of the VFW, I assure you the VFW is not ultra-liberal.
Well know ultra-Liberal VFW rips Trump a new asshole. #GoldStarFamiles https://t.co/H55G2Gsbai
— Dave Bledsoe (@TheHell_Podcast) 1 August 2016
re: #53 Anymouse
LOLWUT? “Ultra-Liberal?” I’m a member of the VFW, I assure you the VFW is not ultra-liberal.
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Looking at his timeline I think he’s being sarcastic.
re: #53 Anymouse
LOLWUT? “Ultra-Liberal?” I’m a member of the VFW, I assure you the VFW is not ultra-liberal.
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On a positive note: maybe low info right wingers will start to absorb that they are “liberal” because of this or that reason and begin the morphing…..soon, soon they are really on the other side from their live-long team. ~Bill, rubs hands together, smiling, “The plan is working better than I imagined.”~
re: #55 Ming5000
On a positive note: maybe low info right wingers will start to absorb that they are “liberal” because of this or that reason and begin the morphing…..soon, soon they are really on the other side from their live-long team. ~Bill, rubs hands together, smiling, “The plan is working better than I imagined.”~
We are starting to see the conservative movement unravel. There are still conservatives with a sense of decency and propriety, they are starting to realize that they have no home in the GOP.
re: #41 Anymouse
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Rick Perry 7/15: Trump is a cancer
Rick Perry 8/16: no one speaks to Mr. Trump that way, I don’t care how many of your soldier kids died
And don’t you scream or make a shout
It’s nothing you can do about
It was there where you came out
It’s a special lack of grace
I can see it in your face
I can see by what you carry that you come from Perrytown….
re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We are starting to see the conservative movement unravel. There are still conservatives with a sense of decency and propriety, they are starting to realize that they have no home in the GOP.
Senator Barry Goldwater predicted this when the GOP under President Reagan brought in all the evangelicals and such.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
re: #34 goddamnedfrank
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Jesus, they do think Trump is God. That is what fundy’s say when they are getting off on revenge fantasies about how all their enemies will have to bend a knee to God.
re: #59 Big Beautiful Door
Jesus, they do think Trump is God. That is what fundy’s say when they are getting off on revenge fantasies about how all their enemies will have to bend a knee to God.
But Obama was “The Messiah” to his brainwashed fans, they said….
re: #60 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
But Obama was “The Messiah” to his brainwashed fans, they said….
Don’t forget he is the “secularist atheist Muslim” (how does that work) “usurper” (winning elections in a landslide is usurpation now) “socialist racist divider-in-chief.”
Did I miss any?
re: #61 Anymouse
Don’t forget he is the “secularist atheist Muslim” (how does that work) “usurper” (winning elections in a landslide is usurpation now) “socialist racist divider-in-chief.”
Did I miss any?
Idiotic brainless Machiavellian mastermind….
re: #62 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Oh yeah, the Machiavellian mastermind who can’t apparently tie his shoes in the morning. I forgot about those.
re: #58 Anymouse
Senator Barry Goldwater predicted this when the GOP under President Reagan brought in all the evangelicals and such.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
And the fact that so many Evangelicals have bought into Trump and his Two Corinthians is scary. It shows that even their religious beliefs are totally malleable and simply a reflection of their inner cussedness.
re: #60 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
But Obama was “The Messiah” to his brainwashed fans, they said….
He is the Messiah of the Dow Jones.
re: #53 Anymouse
LOLWUT? “Ultra-Liberal?” I’m a member of the VFW, I assure you the VFW is not ultra-liberal.
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He is using the term sarcastically. Or ironically; sometimes I’m not sure! Anyway, that they are not ultra-liberal is the point.
re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And the fact that so many Evangelicals have bought into Trump and his Two Corinthians is scary. It shows that even their religious beliefs are totally malleable and simply a reflection of their inner cussedness.
Yup, the evangelical movement’s involvement in politics is exposed for what it is. Folk like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson long argued they wanted to bring some sort of “moral awakening” to the nation.
No, they want to attain political power. They toss their moral convictions as soon as they see a path to attain power. That makes them dangerous.
Obama is Lord of the Skies, Dealer of Death From Above, I could drone on and on…
re: #68 BigPapa
Obama is Lord of the Skies, Dealer of Death From Above, I could drone on and on…
So my girlfriend was doing some genealogical research and fond a site where you could order documents (birth, death and marriage certificates) by e-mail.
I really liked the button that read “Click here for death by mail”.
Sounds like the motto of the First Postal Brigade.
re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So my girlfriend was doing some genealogical research and fond a site where you could order documents (birth, death and marriage certificates) by e-mail.
I really liked the button that read “Click here for death by mail”.
Sounds like the motto of the First Postal Brigade.
Death by mail? What do they do, drop a postal truck on you?
re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Or spam you to death.
Drop a truckload of Spam on you?
re: #74 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Go Postal on you.
I’ve only gone postal insofar as I have walked to the Post Office to mail letters or packages.
re: #2 darthstar
So, after he loses in November, will Trump finally pivot and apologize for all the racist shit he said or will he be afraid of retaliation from his base?
What base? I’m sure after the shellacking he’ll get in November that he will never run again for anything. It’s shocking that he’s actually representing a major political party given his shortcomings and lack of political experience.
Top North Korean diplomat who disappeared from London embassy has defected to South Korea, Seoul confirms https://t.co/YwJ1YkFxDF
— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) August 17, 2016
Halperin is still fighting for Trump - gonna come down real hard in November.
re: #77 Patricia Kayden
What base? I’m sure after the shellacking he’ll get in November that he will never run again for anything. It’s shocking that he’s actually representing a major political party given his shortcomings and lack of political experience.
After Mitt Romney lost in 2012, the Republican Party wrote up their so-called autopsy report, which they promptly chunked.
Do you think that after this election there will be some introspection on the right, will they just dig in their heels more, or will the Republican Party break up into separate parties representing its differing interests that seem to be at odds (business, religious, &c)?
re: #2 darthstar
So, after he loses in November, will Trump finally pivot and apologize for all the racist shit he said or will he be afraid of retaliation from his base?
he will find a way to frame it as a win for him.
some sort. some how.
he did something, motivated something, stirred something, woke something up
he must take credit for having done something
there is no other possibility
Ayn Rand, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan walk into a bar. The bartender serves them tainted alcohol because there are no regulations. They die.
—Miss O’Kistic
re: #80 Anymouse
After Mitt Romney lost in 2012, the Republican Party wrote up their so-called autopsy report, which they promptly chunked.
Do you think that after this election there will be some introspection on the right, will they just dig in their heels more, or will the Republican Party break up into separate parties representing its differing interests that seem to be at odds (business, religious, &c)?
“he wasnt conservative enough”
we need a true conservative next time
a true conservative would win
Anyway, last night’s Trump speech was obviously not designed to appeal to African-Americans, but rather to give a thin veneer of respectability to a racist agenda to try to lure college educated whites back to the GOP. If Trump can be kept on a leash, the race could tighten, leaving Trump as a serious underdog in November, but perhaps not a complete disaster for the GOP downticket. With nearly twelve weeks left in the campaign, I can’t see Trump not having more major gaffes.
re: #82 Anymouse
Ayn Rand, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan walk into a bar. The bartender serves them tainted alcohol because there are no regulations. They die.
—Miss O’Kistic
And, contrary to von Misian theory, the bar becomes more popular.
re: #84 Big Beautiful Door
“Gaffe” implies mistake. His statements aren’t mistakes.
re: #80 Anymouse
After Mitt Romney lost in 2012, the Republican Party wrote up their so-called autopsy report, which they promptly chunked.
Do you think that after this election there will be some introspection on the right, will they just dig in their heels more, or will the Republican Party break up into separate parties representing its differing interests that seem to be at odds (business, religious, &c)?
There will be a lot of infighting, but the party won’t break apart because third parties can’t win in our first-past-the-post electoral system. The base is still going to be divided between white nationalists and theocrats (with a lot of overlap) with the donors whose top priority is lining their own pockets still funding everything, so I expect to see clashes between candidates representing these factions in the 2020 race.
re: #87 Big Beautiful Door
While our nation has primarily been a two-party system, major parties have broken up before, or drastically re-aligned their positions (such as the Democratic Party in the Civil Rights Era, or the Whig Party disintegrating and birthing the Republican Party from its ashes).
I wonder if a similar thing might happen now - it’s been a long time since the parties had a significant shift (the last I can remember is the evangelicals trying to take over the Republican Party).
re: #88 Anymouse
While our nation has primarily been a two-party system, major parties have broken up before, or drastically re-aligned their positions (such as the Democratic Party in the Civil Rights Era, or the Whig Party disintegrating and birthing the Republican Party from its ashes).
I wonder if a similar thing might happen now - it’s been a long time since the parties had a significant shift (the last I can remember is the evangelicals trying to take over the Republican Party).
Its hard to see how. The donors who fund the party want massive tax cuts for themselves and reduced regulations on their businesses, but that isn’t a popular agenda with the vast majority of voters, so they appeal to white voters’ racial resentments and theocratic misogynists culture agenda to get the votes they need. If they jettisoned either the racists or the theocrats (and there is a lot of overlap between them) who are they going to appeal to in order to replace those votes? The donors don’t want government to spend any money to address voters’ real problems, because that is money that they want redirected back into their pockets through tax cuts.
re: #77 Patricia Kayden
What base? I’m sure after the shellacking he’ll get in November that he will never run again for anything. It’s shocking that he’s actually representing a major political party given his shortcomings and lack of political experience.
The GOP had already started turning on itself, rejecting career (i.e. experienced) politicians and politics as usual in favor of pure cussedness. They then turned to a complete political outsider with no legislative or administrative record who simply made threats and promises that sounded good to the ears of GOP base voters.
And out of pure cussedness, DT is neither a right-wing, free-market ideologue nor a fundamentalist Christian. He just promised to come in, kick some butt and reshape our country to fit their concept of “greatness”.
re: #87 Big Beautiful Door
There will be a lot of infighting, but the party won’t break apart because third parties can’t win in our first-past-the-post electoral system. The base is still going to be divided between white nationalists and theocrats (with a lot of overlap) with the donors whose top priority is lining their own pockets still funding everything, so I expect to see clashes between candidates representing these factions in the 2020 race.
if they keep running these 5-10+ candidate primaries, there will always be a primary winner. being able to coalesce all those groups for the general will continue to be difficult.
re: #89 dangerman
Stephen Bannon, the executive chairman of Breitbart News LLC, will become the Republican campaign’s chief executive, and Kellyanne Conway, a senior adviser and pollster for Mr. Trump and his running mate, Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana, will become the campaign manager. (via NYT)
The Speaker of the House must be thrilled to hear this news. Going to be that must harder to support the nominee.
re: #89 dangerman
there was that major shakeup to his campaign staff overnight
cnn.com
From the article:
Both Trump and Manafort discussed the friction in their relationship with friends in recent days, and a close associate described Trump as frustrated at the state of the race, leveling complaints that he has been the victim of bad advice from his political team.
“Mr. Trump doesn’t trust him anymore. That’s it. Pure and simple,” a source familiar with the tensions told CNN, adding that Trump’s gaffes and controversial statements in recent weeks have been fueled in part by his “exasperation” with the campaign’s management.
Not good to shake up your campaign staff this close to the election. Worse if you are feuding with your campaign staff: It’s the staff that ensures everything runs smoothly (or at all).
Good point on MJ (amazing) - By releasing the campaign news this am - Trump jumped on his own good press from last night’s rally.
They really can’t help themselves.
The billionaire real estate mogul is bringing in Stephen Bannon of Breitbart News as chief executive officer and promoting pollster Kellyanne Conway to campaign manager.
“I’ve known both of them for a long time. They’re terrific people, they’re winners, they’re champs, and we need to win it,” Trump told The Associated Press in a phone interview early Wednesday.
re: #95 Anymouse
From the article:
Not good to shake up your campaign staff this close to the election. Worse if you are feuding with your campaign staff: It’s the staff that ensures everything runs smoothly (or at all).
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if it doesn’t happen at least once more before it’s all over.
Trump doesn’t have the internal discipline to stick with a decision, and if this Breitbart dude and Conway don’t show immediate results, they’ll be gone, too.
I’m still of the mind that Ailes is going to end up running the whole sorry mess at one point or another.
re: #95 Anymouse
From the article:
Not good to shake up your campaign staff this close to the election. Worse if you are feuding with your campaign staff: It’s the staff that ensures everything runs smoothly (or at all).
nor to announce it at 3am. in the modern age of 24 hour news, it no longer a sign of political cleverness
Those fake Trump quotes we see turn out to be spot on. There is no way to tell fake from actual quotes.
“I’ve known both of them for a long time. They’re terrific people, they’re winners, they’re champs, and we need to win it,” Trump told The Associated Press
Breitbrats have no experience running campaigns.
The is not enough corn to make the amount of popcorn we need for this shitshow.
re: #102 BigPapa
Breitbrats have no experience running campaigns.
The is not enough corn to make the amount of popcorn we need for this shitshow.
Breitbart was all about totally prostituting any sort of journalistic standards, moral or political consistency in favor of generating scandal (and viewership) for a news site.
In that sense, he was highly successful.
And in that sense, he serves as the perfect model for the DT campaign.
Rather amazing - the last hour on MJ - 95% anti Trump - although some (Halperin & Kristol) are saying a new “email dump” will turn it around. They have said that if the “Russian link” was with the Hillary campaign it would be screamed throughout the political media.
MOAR RATFUCKING==>
Awkward: 1 of 2 firms who got “pro-Russia” money from Manafort is controlled by brother of Hillary’s campaign chair https://t.co/TcZgq6wLJ8
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) August 17, 2016
re: #41 Anymouse
Rick Perry is just another one of them TexAssHoles!
It’s pretty telling that Trump still talks to Lewandowski even after his ouster. An ouster driven by others that Trump acquiesced to. This is because Trump treasures loyalty over all else, including effectiveness.
That’s not leadership.
Remember the Pivot? He pivoted all right. Boy did he.
re: #107 BigPapa
It’s pretty telling that Trump still talks to Lewandowski even after his ouster. An ouster driven by others that Trump acquiesced to. This is because Trump treasures loyalty over all else, including effectiveness.
That’s not leadership.
He values people who suck up to him for the use he can get out of them, but feels no obligation to return that loyalty.
re: #107 BigPapa
It’s pretty telling that Trump still talks to Lewandowski even after his ouster. An ouster driven by others that Trump acquiesced to. This is because Trump treasures loyalty over all else, including effectiveness.
That’s not leadership.
so hes still talking to, and apparently getting advice from, one guy who now works for cnn
he just hired the breitbart guy
and also the guy from fox (although some reports still dispute this)
im sure there’s a theme in there somewhere
Trump continues his popular tactic of I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I
Trump slams Clinton’s “bigotry” in speech reaching out to black voters https://t.co/UMskcikHFE pic.twitter.com/of7AKHPqeU
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 17, 2016
re: #107 BigPapa
It’s pretty telling that Trump still talks to Lewandowski even after his ouster. An ouster driven by others that Trump acquiesced to. This is because Trump treasures loyalty over all else, including effectiveness.
That’s not leadership.
I wondered when CNN hired Lewandowski if there was more to that than CNN simply hiring a guy from the Trump campaign - more like the Trump Campaign was putting a mole in at CNN.
Since Mr. Trump rails about the “unfair media,” putting someone into the media would be a way to “unskew” it.
I worked at a company where a respected VP pushed out an underling of the owner to many a raised eyebrow, but it was a good thing. Then 9 months later, owner hired underling back as a subcontractor to do one job… then a year later he’s a VP after VP who pushed him out left.
This underling didn’t have the respect of the people, only the loyalty of the owner.
The owner was not a DBag like Trump but the damage was done .
re: #112 Anymouse
I wondered when CNN hired Lewandowski if there was more to that than CNN simply hiring a guy from the Trump campaign - more like the Trump Campaign was putting a mole in at CNN.
Since Mr. Trump rails about the “unfair media,” putting someone into the media would be a way to “unskew” it.
winner winner
re: #93 dangerman
if they keep running these 5-10+ candidate primaries, there will always be a primary winner. being able to coalesce all those groups for the general will continue to be difficult.
That is true, but keep in mind that the GOP coalition has been a smashing success at the state and local level; the GOP holds more elective offices than probably at any time in its history. For them to jettison a huge block of very reliable voters in order to completely remake their party just to try to win one office is very unlikely to happen, even when that office is the presidency. Its a lot easier for them to write Trump off as an aberration and assume they can get an establishment figure nominated in 2020 like usual. The GOP’s best hope to win the White House is for the Democrats to lurch far to the left, as Bernie wants, leaving an opening for the GOP to appeal to centrist voters.
Trump loves Lewandowski, no doubt. But his kids pushed him out of the campaign. So he’ll use him some other way.
You have a bunch of people with differing ideas and motivations jockeying for position around the giant Jabba the Hutt ego in the middle of it all, who himself isn’t really the leader he makes himself out to be.
re: #95 Anymouse
From the article:
Not good to shake up your campaign staff this close to the election. Worse if you are feuding with your campaign staff: It’s the staff that ensures everything runs smoothly (or at all).
I heard on Morning Joe that there is a big AP story that Manafort was directing the operations of a non-profit lobbying for Ukraine’s pro-Russian government in the U.S., and that Manafort did not register as a foreign agent, which if true could be a serious violation of US law. I don’t know if this has anything to do with the shakeup.
re: #107 BigPapa
It’s pretty telling that Trump still talks to Lewandowski even after his ouster. An ouster driven by others that Trump acquiesced to. This is because Trump treasures loyalty over all else, including effectiveness.
That’s not leadership.
Lewandowski wasn’t fired, he was detached on Temporary Duty.
re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We are starting to see the conservative movement unravel. There are still conservatives with a sense of decency and propriety, they are starting to realize that they have no home in the GOP.
It’s just soooooooo pleasing to see the Republican Party and their Conservative allies plop plopping and fizz fizzing like an Alka Seltzer tablet!
re: #119 Joe Bacon
It’s just soooooooo pleasing to see the Republican Party and their Conservative allies plop plopping and fizz fizzing like an Alka Seltzer tablet!
and virtually all of it self inflicted
Why doesn’t Trump hire Hewitt, O’Reilly, or Hannity for that matter?
The shark has been jumped, slam dunked, filet and steaked, seared, battered, and deep fried.
Trump speech was the clearest appeal to the African American community of any Republican nominee.if he builds on this it could be big.
— Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) August 17, 2016
Shut your mouth. Ain’t nobody forgot about you saying Black people should be janitors to pay for our K-12 educations https://t.co/jl2Q505yK0
— NIGris Elba (@hosienation) August 17, 2016
re: #122 The Vicious Babushka
Trump speech was the clearest appeal to the African American community of any Republican nominee.if he builds on this it could be big.
Actually, taken as is, Newt’s statement is correct: nobody else in the GOP has made any sort of appeal to blacks, and IF he builds on it, it could be big. But how can he build on it without the risk of alienating the bigots and racists who form his core supporters?
So Trump wants to be the “voice” of all the people he had thrown out of his rallies.
re: #125 I Would Prefer Not To
So Trump wants to be the “voice” of all the people he had thrown out of his rallies.
He’s saying “Hillary only wants your votes BUT I REALLY CARE ABOUT YOU! TRUST ME, BELIEVE ME!!!!”
Here is the story about Manafort’s ties to foreign lobbying. Its entirely possible he didn’t technically violate the law requiring registration as a foreign agent; there just isn’t enough detail to know.
re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Actually, taken as is, Newt’s statement is correct: nobody else in the GOP has made any sort of appeal to blacks, and IF he builds on it, it could be big. But how can he build on it without the risk of alienating the bigots and racists who form his core supporters?
It will be hard to build on an appeal to African-Americans based on a platform of giving police unfettered discretion to shoot and kill African-Americans.
Harvey Milk served with distinction and received an honorable discharge. But do tell us about your service Bryan.
Obama now naming ships after men who engaged in unnatural sex and got kicked out of the military. https://t.co/KfW2tg3lyu
— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) August 17, 2016
re: #2 darthstar
So, after he loses in November, will Trump finally pivot and apologize for all the racist shit he said or will he be afraid of retaliation from his base?
and another thought, from a commenter at dkos who said it better than i could:
Ron Ebest > Torta Aug 17 * 07:54:11 AM
I think you’re right. I think he’s for all intents and purposes throwing the election. But with the loss, he’ll end up with literally tens of millions of shrieking fans, and he’ll figure out a way to “monetize” them—I’m guessing on his own Glen Beck-style internet network. Daily does of him blathering into the camera w/ other “shows” focusing on Trump products, lifestyle, family members, etc. As he has with every failing venture, his presidential run is going to destroy his financial backers, but it is going to make him a bundle. He could end up actually becoming a billionaire
re: #130 dangerman
and another thought, from a commenter at dkos who said it better than i could:
Ron Ebest > Torta Aug 17 * 07:54:11 AM
I think you’re right. I think he’s for all intents and purposes throwing the election. But with the loss, he’ll end up with literally tens of millions of shrieking fans, and he’ll figure out a way to “monetize” them—I’m guessing on his own Glen Beck-style internet network. Daily does of him blathering into the camera w/ other “shows” focusing on Trump products, lifestyle, family members, etc. As he has with every failing venture, his presidential run is going to destroy his financial backers, but it is going to make him a bundle. He could end up actually becoming a billionaire
Trump might hire Ailes to build a rival network to Fox News!
re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Actually, taken as is, Newt’s statement is correct: nobody else in the GOP has made any sort of appeal to blacks, and IF he builds on it, it could be big. But how can he build on it without the risk of alienating the bigots and racists who form his core supporters?
Shame he has refused all invitations to speak directly to black people. Standing in front of a 99.99% white crowd and appealing to blacks - not going to convince anyone.
re: #129 The Vicious Babushka
Bryan Fischer: Obama now naming ships after men who engaged in unnatural sex and got kicked out of the military.
You must understand that in BF’s eyes, Harvey Milk served dishonorably BECAUSE HE WAS A FAGGOT, and they were not allowed in our military back then.
And it is taken as a matter of course that he and his faggot buddies gang-raped straight sailors in the showers and bunk rooms and converted them to fagicity.
re: #58 Anymouse
Senator Barry Goldwater predicted this when the GOP under President Reagan brought in all the evangelicals and such.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”
According to teabagger Christians, Goldwater was a Marxist just like Ike was. No wonder millions of people are walking out of churches and never going back!
re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
You must understand that in BF’s eyes, Harvey Milk served dishonorably BECAUSE HE WAS A FAGGOT, and they were not allowed in our military back then.
And it is taken as a matter of course that he and his faggot buddies gang-raped straight sailors in the showers and bunk rooms and converted them to fagicity.
Bryan spends more time thinking about gay sex than 99% of gay people.
re: #130 dangerman
and another thought, from a commenter at dkos who said it better than i could:
Ron Ebest > Torta Aug 17 * 07:54:11 AM
I think you’re right. I think he’s for all intents and purposes throwing the election. But with the loss, he’ll end up with literally tens of millions of shrieking fans, and he’ll figure out a way to “monetize” them—I’m guessing on his own Glen Beck-style internet network. Daily does of him blathering into the camera w/ other “shows” focusing on Trump products, lifestyle, family members, etc. As he has with every failing venture, his presidential run is going to destroy his financial backers, but it is going to make him a bundle. He could end up actually becoming a billionaire
That about nails it: he is now a brand with a recognition level that rivals Coca-Cola, Levi’s, Disney or Apple. He will come out of this a “winner” for sure.
re: #131 Big Beautiful Door
Trump might hire Ailes to build a rival network to Fox News!
Didn’t Trump mention something awhile back about creating a “TrumpTV” network?
re: #132 fern01
Shame he has refused all invitations to speak directly to black people. Standing in front of a 99.99% white crowd and appealing to blacks - not going to convince anyone.
Can man knows his marks.
re: #132 fern01
Shame he has refused all invitations to speak directly to black people. Standing in front of a 99.99% white crowd and appealing to blacks - not going to convince anyone.
Remember what a great job Rand Paul did addressing the NAACP?
re: #130 dangerman
and another thought, from a commenter at dkos who said it better than i could:
Ron Ebest > Torta Aug 17 * 07:54:11 AM
I think you’re right. I think he’s for all intents and purposes throwing the election. But with the loss, he’ll end up with literally tens of millions of shrieking fans, and he’ll figure out a way to “monetize” them—I’m guessing on his own Glen Beck-style internet network. Daily does of him blathering into the camera w/ other “shows” focusing on Trump products, lifestyle, family members, etc. As he has with every failing venture, his presidential run is going to destroy his financial backers, but it is going to make him a bundle. He could end up actually becoming a billionaire
Oooor…The Rude Pundit has a theory:
Is Donald Trump Rigging the Election?: A Theory with Circumstantial Evidence
re: #130 dangerman
and another thought, from a commenter at dkos who said it better than i could:
Ron Ebest > Torta Aug 17 * 07:54:11 AM
I think you’re right. I think he’s for all intents and purposes throwing the election. But with the loss, he’ll end up with literally tens of millions of shrieking fans, and he’ll figure out a way to “monetize” them—I’m guessing on his own Glen Beck-style internet network. Daily does of him blathering into the camera w/ other “shows” focusing on Trump products, lifestyle, family members, etc. As he has with every failing venture, his presidential run is going to destroy his financial backers, but it is going to make him a bundle. He could end up actually becoming a billionaire
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Trump buy a couple newspapers and have Ailes run them for him.
re: #129 The Vicious Babushka
Harvey Milk served with distinction and received an honorable discharge. But do tell us about your service Bryan.
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re: #135 The Vicious Babushka
Bryan spends more time thinking about gay sex than 99% of gay people.
I am convinced that many of the founders of the early Christian church were repressed, self-loathing gays, which is why homosexuality figures so heavy in fundamentalist theology and morals.
re: #137 Dr Lizardo
Didn’t Trump mention something awhile back about creating a “TrumpTV” network?
Other than Fox and CNN?
re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Remember what a great job Rand Paul did addressing the NAACP?
I thought he spoke at Howard University and whitesplained how the original NAACP were all Republicans.
re: #134 Joe Bacon
According to teabagger Christians, Goldwater was a Marxist just like Ike was. No wonder millions of people are walking out of churches and never going back!
Ahem, it spelled (((Goldwater))) - being converted does not count.
re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Remember what a great job Rand Paul did addressing the NAACP?
He really schooled them at Howard.
the fact that the black vote is not competitive is always the fault of the democrats or black voters, but never the… yeah.
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) August 17, 2016
re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Remember what a great job Rand Paul did addressing the NAACP?
Also remember Romney talking to them - BUT - Trump says he is their friend, wants to help them all - you don’t tell a white group that without having an underlying message to spread around.
re: #145 The Vicious Babushka
I thought he spoke at Howard University and whitesplained how the original NAACP were all Republicans.
Correct, thanks. But yeah, he played well to a majority black, educated audience, didn’t he?
re: #144 Decatur Deb
Other than Fox and CNN?
No, an independent venture, maybe along the lines of what Glenn Beck did. Who knows, maybe some kind of broadcast as well. The wingnuts often mention One America News Network - maybe Trump could take that over and have Ailes run it behind the scenes as an advisor or something.
re: #151 Dr Lizardo
No, an independent venture, maybe along the lines of what Glenn Beck did. Who knows, maybe some kind of broadcast as well. The wingnuts often mention One America News Network - maybe Trump could take that over and have Ailes run it behind the scenes as an advisor or something.
Except it will have aspects of WWF and The Apprentice built in.
re: #151 Dr Lizardo
No, an independent venture, maybe along the lines of what Glenn Beck did. Who knows, maybe some kind of broadcast as well. The wingnuts often mention One America News Network - maybe Trump could take that over and have Ailes run it behind the scenes as an advisor or something.
Gotta move those steaks.
re: #140 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Oooor…The Rude Pundit has a theory:
Is Donald Trump Rigging the Election?: A Theory with Circumstantial Evidence
Maybe President Obama meant something else when he said ‘if someone is winning by 10 points on the eve of the election and then loses, then maybe you can start looking at whether the election was rigged’ (or words to that effect).
eta: I’m not a fan of voter fraud conspiracy theories, by the way. “Just throwing it out there.”
re: #135 The Vicious Babushka
Bryan spends more time thinking about gay sex than 99% of gay people.
Makes you wonder about Mr. Fischer. It seems to be a truism that those that shriek loudest against some sort of moral affront (LGBT, abortion, adultery, &c) are the ones caught doing exactly that (Ted Haggart, many Republicans, &c).
I wonder if Mr. Fischer concerns himself with those who work with him and who might spill the beans. I read it on the Internet right here in this comment, and many people will be saying it, so it must be true. /s
re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Except it will have aspects of WWF and The Apprentice built in.
I have little doubt that would be most appealing to the Trumpanzees.
re: #140 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Oooor…The Rude Pundit has a theory:
Is Donald Trump Rigging the Election?: A Theory with Circumstantial Evidence
its an interesting idea. i’m not so charitable
trump is a guy that looks forward and keeps moving forward. an always optimistic about the next moment salesman. never look back, dont dwell on what you said or did. it doesnt matter.
then i add to that my opinion that he is not that clever or machievellian. he’s not that good
re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Ahem, it spelled (((Goldwater))) - being converted does not count.
I thought his campaign buttons said AuH2O
We got us some really weird weather out here this morning.
It’s the kind of morning you’d see after a night of a huge storm - only we didn’t get the storm (once again, our neighbors to the west and north got hammered). An uncommon morning breeze, fluffy clouds being blown by at blazing speed, slightly lower humidity.
Meanwhile, if my lawn could talk it would be screaming ‘Can I get a damn drink of water over here, please?
Just weird. Sure could use some rain over here, Ma Nature…
re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So my girlfriend was doing some genealogical research and fond a site where you could order documents (birth, death and marriage certificates) by e-mail.
I really liked the button that read “Click here for death by mail”.
Sounds like the motto of the First Postal Brigade.
I feel like clicking that button this morning. I’m already having a bad day. Called in sick.
re: #161 stpaulbear
I feel like clicking that button this morning. I’m already having a bad day. Called in sick.
Then you’d want the “Fiery Ball of Death by Mail” button
re: #135 The Vicious Babushka
Bryan spends more time thinking about gay sex than 99% of gay people.
Assumes fact not in evidence that Bryan is straight.
re: #163 jeffreyw
It’s goodnight for me (night is relative to my sleep, not the position of the Sun).
I just spent time with a fellow removing my wire fence for me (long story, but my fence is in violation of village ordinances, though it was there when we bought the house). He has most of the fence down now.
I’ll catch y’all later.
re: #165 Anymouse
It’s goodnight for me (night is relative to my sleep, not the position of the Sun).
I just spent time with a fellow removing my wire fence for me (long story, but my fence is in violation of village ordinances, though it was there when we bought the house). He has most of the fence down now.
I’ll catch y’all later.
Get a Mexican to build a wall for you—they do it for free.
re: #164 Big Beautiful Door
Assumes fact not in evidence that Bryan is straight.
he spends more time obsessing about it than most (openly) gay people
Downstairs, I said “That’ll last a day and a half, tops.” Once again, I was too cautious.
I know nothing about Kellyanne Conway - apart from what I’m hearing/reading at the minute. MJ peoples are saying she will accompany Trump wherever he goes & keep the campaign on track.
I have great difficulty believing a man could keep Trump on track - a woman will have zero chance of doing same. Doubt she’ll last more than a couple of weeks.
re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
he spends more time obsessing about it than most (openly) gay people
That tells me everything I need to know. He’s a closet case, presumably for religious reasons.
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Another two rounds of storms last night, including one before sunset that had the sky this weird yellowish/green that I’ve never seen before.
Still, nothing quite like what they’re still dealing with down in the Gulf Coast and Louisiana in particular. It’s flooding worse than during Katrina, Rita, or other storms of the past couple of decades.
Meanwhile, Hurricane Trump continues churning through campaign managers/leaders, and they’ve brought on a Breitbart guy. Oh, that’ll fix everything.
What a shit show. And you’ve got right wingers saying how a speech he gave last night was the best he’s given. We’d just have to ignore the rank racism and the racist undertones throughout.
re: #171 Dr Lizardo
That tells me everything I need to know. He’s a closet case, presumably for religious reasons.
Reverend Shelby Spong, (a retired Anglican bishop) makes an interesting and compelling case in his book Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism that St. Paul was a repressed, self-loathing gay.
A lot of his teachings make a lot more sense when seen in that light.
And don’t even get me going on St. Augustine…
re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Reverend Shelby Spong, (a retired Anglican bishop) makes an interesting and compelling case in his book Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism that St. Paul was a repressed, self-loathing gay.
A lot of his teachings make a lot more sense when seen in that light.
And don’t even get me going on St. Augustine…
I’ve heard that, and it really wouldn’t shock me one bit. That’s a good book by Bishop Spong, by the way; I recommend it to anyone.
re: #172 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Another two rounds of storms last night, including one before sunset that had the sky this weird yellowish/green that I’ve never seen before.
Still, nothing quite like what they’re still dealing with down in the Gulf Coast and Louisiana in particular. It’s flooding worse than during Katrina, Rita, or other storms of the past couple of decades.
Meanwhile, Hurricane Trump continues churning through campaign managers/leaders, and they’ve brought on a Breitbart guy. Oh, that’ll fix everything.
What a shit show. And you’ve got right wingers saying how a speech he gave last night was the best he’s given. We’d just have to ignore the rank racism and the racist undertones throughout.
Most times when we get that yellow-green sky, someone nearby is getting a tornado. About the flooding—we are getting a mild spinoff of their storms, though it’s been going on for about 20 days. Other than utter destruction, such weather bounces the mosquito population off the charts. How ‘bout that Zika funding, assholes?
Oh, and lookie here, not only are there more questions about Trump’s letter claiming he’s a picture of perfect health (up to and including the bogus website link, improperly stating the doctor’s affiliation to Lenox Hill Hospital, never mind that Trump would need to see a gastroenterologist, as well as the odd use of language throughout that makes it more than likely Trump drafted this letter and had this guy sign it), but now there’s new questions about Paul Manafort and his links to Russia and payments.
AP Sources: Trump’s campaign manager Manafort tied to undisclosed foreign lobbying with Russia https://t.co/xPD4HMw0Wa (from @AP)
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 17, 2016
Today is the day Trump begins to get his classified briefings. No doubt it’ll post to Breitbart and get into Russian hands PDQ.
re: #172 lawhawk
I almost get the idea that Donald Trump’s entire campaign strategy and his speeches to his rallies are one massive Chewbacca Defence. Trying to follow them makes the Tundra Grifter’s speeches sound reasonable.
Now I really do need to go to bed. (And I missed my medication hanging around here. Thanks, Obama.)
re: #175 Decatur Deb
Naw, the GOP is too busy sniping from the sidelines than doing any of the hard work of governing the nation.
Trump: “Well, I’m worried about her getting it because of her e-mail situation. She can’t keep anything private.” pic.twitter.com/hRPpIfnXsp
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) August 17, 2016
re: #170 fern01
I know nothing about Kellyanne Conway - apart from what I’m hearing/reading at the minute. MJ peoples are saying she will accompany Trump wherever he goes & keep the campaign on track.
I have great difficulty believing a man could keep Trump on track - a woman will have zero chance of doing same. Doubt she’ll last more than a couple of weeks.
Conway has been a fixture spokesperson for forced-birth organizations and right-wing lost causes for years. I can remember seeing her on CNN way back at the turn of the century.
She’s a figurehead, playing the role of campaign manager while a certain former network head pulls the levers on the low. I’m becoming more convinced of this.
Manafort has been moved to the periphery, because his Ukraine troubles are probably a lot worse than anyone is letting on. Moving him and ‘replacing’ him with Conway does a couple of things -
It gives Trump plausible deniability if/when the Manafort story reaches critical mass, and it creates the illusion of having a woman in charge - a typical ham-fisted Trump move to ‘reach out’ to women.
I’m expecting a high-profile announcement of a person of color joining the ranks of campaign management. Of course, all of these moves are meant for media consumption.
They’re building a facade for the campaign to make it look inclusive and diverse, so the media can talk about it all day.
So this wasn’t the week to stop sniffing glue, was it?
/
@GovernorPerry Shame on YOU! #goldstarfamilies
— Claudia Wagner (@ClaudiaW22) 17 August 2016
It’s like I go to bed at night realizing the Trump campaign is a new level of crazy and then wake up to find the derp has been increased by a factor of 49.
re: #181 Sir John Barron
So this wasn’t the week to stop sniffing glue, was it?
/
re: #183 Sir John Barron
It’s like I go to bed at night realizing the Trump campaign is a new level of crazy and then wake up to find the derp has been increased by a factor of 49.
11. this one goes to 11
So here is Trump saying he is going to keep $82 million in campaign funds for himself
Trump to @foxandfriends: “It is tougher for a Republican. You know, the road is a lot tighter.” pic.twitter.com/3D4a00O7t1
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) August 17, 2016
Things that would otherwise destroy any other party:
1) incessant race-baiting;
2) threatening political opponents with assassination;
3) hiring campaign manager with ties to foreign govts and mysterious payments for same;
4) no transparency on his personal taxes, bankruptcies, and how his income is generated - refusing to release tax returns;
5) running a fact-free campaign where candidate can’t even keep his story straight in a single conversation;
6) cozying up to former media executive who was booted from media organzation for sexual harassment of multiple women;
7) etc.
These same things are the very kinds of things that endear himself to the core GOP voters. That’s why Trump is continuing to do what he’s been doing.
re: #129 The Vicious Babushka
Obama now naming ships after men who engaged in unnatural sex and got kicked out of the military. foxnews.com
— Bryan Fischer
Obama loves trolling Bryan Fischer. Wakes up every morning asking his staff, What else can we do to troll that obnoxious prick, Bryan Fischer?
re: #187 lawhawk
Things that would otherwise destroy any other party:
1) incessant race-baiting;
2) threatening political opponents with assassination;
3) hiring campaign manager with ties to foreign govts and mysterious payments for same;
4) no transparency on his personal taxes, bankruptcies, and how his income is generated - refusing to release tax returns;
5) running a fact-free campaign where candidate can’t even keep his story straight in a single conversation;
6) cozying up to former media executive who was booted from media organzation for sexual harassment of multiple women;
7) etc.These same things are the very kinds of things that endear himself to the core GOP voters. That’s why Trump is continuing to do what he’s been doing.
the sad part is #7
7 makes it look somehow limited
because it’s not 7 - its more like hundreds at this point
any one of which would have sunk another candidate
re: #187 lawhawk
We won’t know the extent of the damage Trump is doing until the election itself. I do think this is the effective end of the GOP as a party that can do anything. Sure they have the seats to obstruct & impair with votes from the GOP equivalent of Rumsfelds “Dead enders”. But those demographics look really bad for them.
Reminder:
That speech that supposedly was outreach to minorities last night? This was the audience:
Donald Trump reaches out to African Americans
from a Wisconsin city w/ less than 1% African American population. pic.twitter.com/SsKOHMo6NG— Tom Hall ☘ (@TomHall) August 17, 2016
It wasn’t minorities. It was to assuage the fears of the whites in the audience. It was a racists’ argument that he’ll do right by the folks in the audience by paying lip service to minorities.
re: #187 lawhawk
Things that would otherwise destroy any other party:
1) incessant race-baiting;
2) threatening political opponents with assassination;
3) hiring campaign manager with ties to foreign govts and mysterious payments for same;
4) no transparency on his personal taxes, bankruptcies, and how his income is generated - refusing to release tax returns;
5) running a fact-free campaign where candidate can’t even keep his story straight in a single conversation;
6) cozying up to former media executive who was booted from media organzation for sexual harassment of multiple women;
7) etc.These same things are the very kinds of things that endear himself to the core GOP voters. That’s why Trump is continuing to do what he’s been doing.
OK, but besides these things, what really has Trump done wrong?
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re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
So here is Trump saying he is going to keep $82 million in campaign funds for himself
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“It’s tougher for a Republican”, the implication being that the media and polls and public institutions are stacked against the GOP.
All I can say is to post another Austin Lounge Lizards song…
re: #176 lawhawk
Oh, and lookie here, not only are there more questions about Trump’s letter claiming he’s a picture of perfect health (up to and including the bogus website link, improperly stating the doctor’s affiliation to Lenox Hill Hospital, never mind that Trump would need to see a gastroenterologist, as well as the odd use of language throughout that makes it more than likely Trump drafted this letter and had this guy sign it), but now there’s new questions about Paul Manafort and his links to Russia and payments.
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Today is the day Trump begins to get his classified briefings. No doubt it’ll post to Breitbart and get into Russian hands PDQ.
So a doctor who died in 2010 signed this letter in 2015? Did Trump borrow Obama’s time machine? But that would explain why the signature is way below the line—they got a piece of paper with his signature, wrote a letter using language no doctor would ever use, and printed it onto the page.
You know how Trump blamed Obama for Putin annexing Crimea? Get a load of this==>
holy smokes: @thetimes has memo saying Manafort helped lay groundwork for Crimean annexation https://t.co/Q8pbbdK3Tj pic.twitter.com/4Kx858371H
— Justin Green (@JGreenDC) August 17, 2016
Trump’s speech allowed white Republicans to say “See, I listened to a speech on making the country better for blacks to show how hard we’re trying. I can’t help it if the blacks won’t do what I know is right.”
re: #195 The Vicious Babushka
This might be the reason for the campaign shake-up.
How much does it take for the Republicans to finally put country over party? One of my senators, Ben Sasse, said back in February he could never support Donald Trump, but Republicans like that seem to be very few and far between.
re: #195 The Vicious Babushka
You know how Trump blamed Obama for Putin annexing Crimea? Get a load of this==>
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And the NY Times has promised more on Manafort this week.
This is why they’re making a point to look like they’re ‘cutting him loose’ (while doing no such thing).
They want to look like their hands are clean when Manafort is slapped into cuffs.
re: #194 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
So a doctor who died in 2010 signed this letter in 2015? Did Trump borrow Obama’s time machine? But that would explain why the signature is way below the line—they got a piece of paper with his signature, wrote a letter using language no doctor would ever use, and printed it onto the page.
Woah, woah, back up the truck…..Trump’s gastroentorologist died in 2010?!
re: #194 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
So a doctor who died in 2010 signed this letter in 2015? Did Trump borrow Obama’s time machine? But that would explain why the signature is way below the line—they got a piece of paper with his signature, wrote a letter using language no doctor would ever use, and printed it onto the page.
The letter was signed by Harold Bornstein, who is apparently still alive. Jacob Bornstein was dead since 2010, but is still on the letterhead for some reason.
The signature is the least bad part of the letter. And that’s saying something.
re: #191 lawhawk
Reminder:
That speech that supposedly was outreach to minorities last night? This was the audience:
It wasn’t minorities. It was to assuage the fears of the whites in the audience. It was a racists’ argument that he’ll do right by the folks in the audience by paying lip service to minorities.
And did Trump actually acknowledge the killing—and the underlying conditions—that sparked the unrest in Milwaukee (or those that have occurred in other jurisdictions)? I’m guessing not.
Well you guys are likely seeing the latest SoCal wildfires on the news. We Californians really need to get better about required clearance and stored water for structure protection. We are getting hit with normal intensity. But normally it takes more wind, and that is thankfully minimal so far this season. And as pointed out in Ecology Of Fear this is when we get bad residential fires too,
re: #52 Ming5000
I am reading the thread about Trump’s speech last night. Since he was using a teleprompter and was trying to be disciplined to the written speech (no “crooked Hillary” for example), did he do his asides to the crowd between major points?
This is the “new” Trump, put into a striaghtjacket by the GOP if he wants to continue to receive funds. I think that’s why Reince is following him around now.
It’s going to be interesting to see how long it lasts, and whether Ailes is able to “refine” his image.
re: #200 lawhawk
The letter was signed by Harold Bornstein, who is apparently still alive. Jacob Bornstein was dead since 2010, but is still on the letterhead for some reason.
The signature is the least bad part of the letter. And that’s saying something.
OK, I misread. That letter was still never written by any doctor, and the signature still doesn’t register with the line.
Says the family whose news comes from Alex Jones, Infowars and National Enquirer. Still fact free @DonaldJTrumpJr
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 17, 2016
re: #203 Skip Intro
This is the “new” Trump, put into a striaghtjacket by the GOP if he wants to continue to receive funds. I think that’s why Reince is following him around now.
It’s going to be interesting to see how long it lasts, and whether Ailes is able to “refine” his image.
Ailes will refine his image just fine—for the Fox News demographic. That’s all he knows how to do. It just may backfire on them. Making his messaging a little slicker might alienate some of his hardcore supporters without really attracting anybody who wasn’t already going to vote for Trump.
re: #205 lawhawk
@DonaldJTrumpJr You should do an interview on Political Cesspool! That would be great.
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) August 17, 2016
re: #203 Skip Intro
This is the “new” Trump, put into a striaghtjacket by the GOP if he wants to continue to receive funds. I think that’s why Reince is following him around now.
It’s going to be interesting to see how long it lasts, and whether Ailes is able to “refine” his image.
But, as is being recognized by several commenters, Trump’s campaign-staff shake-up stepped all over this “new”, more straight-laced Trump.
RationalWiki weighs in on the future of the Republican Party after this poo-fest is over:
So, whoever wins, the Republican party as you know it is over. Finished. Finito. Rove, Ryan, McConnell and the others are done. They have lost the respect of voters because they had the gall to put country over party. So they’re out. It’s now the party of Trump, LaPierre, Palin and LePage. It’s not about conservatism at all. It’s about white nationalism, protectionism, and fascism.[note 1] There’s an undercurrent of real hate in the country and they’ve tapped into it. They can neither know nor accept opposing views, because they believe their failures are the fault of “others”: immigrants, minorities and the PC police. (But “both parties are the same.”)
re: #108 BigPapa
Remember the Pivot? He pivoted all right. Boy did he.
He pivoted a full 360 degrees!! Believe me!
re: #111 The Vicious Babushka
Trump continues his popular tactic of I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I
Do the 94% of Blacks who plan to vote for her know about Secretary Clinton’s “bigotry”? Does President Obama who plans to campaign for her know about this?
We all know about Trump’s bigotry though.
re: #210 Anymouse
RationalWiki weighs in on the future of the Republican Party after this poo-fest is over:
So, whoever wins, the Republican party as you know it is over. Finished. Finito. Rove, Ryan, McConnell and the others are done. They have lost the respect of voters because they had the gall to put country over party. So they’re out. It’s now the party of Trump, LaPierre, Palin and LePage. It’s not about conservatism at all. It’s about white nationalism, protectionism, and fascism.[note 1] There’s an undercurrent of real hate in the country and they’ve tapped into it. They can neither know nor accept opposing views, because they believe their failures are the fault of “others”: immigrants, minorities and the PC police. (But “both parties are the same.”)
i dont see where they did that
job first
tepid party support second
country a distant third (or maybe 7th)
re: #208 Sir John Barron
But, as is being recognized by several commenters, Trump’s campaign-staff shake-up stepped all over this “new”, more straight-laced Trump.
As I said, we’ll have to wait and see how long TelePrompTer Trump lasts. Given his obvious difficulty with reading and his horrible personal judgement, not for long I think.
re: #121 BigPapa
Why doesn’t Trump hire Hewitt, O’Reilly, or Hannity for that matter?
Out of his price range.
re: #217 sagehen
He needs someone with a certain moral flexibility - and those yokels aren’t sufficiently flexible.
re: #216 Skip Intro
As I said, we’ll have to wait and see how long TelePrompTer Trump lasts. Given his obvious difficulty with reading and his horrible personal judgement, not for long I think.
TelePrompTer Trump was probably a one-shot deal.
I really think Trump will totally torpedo himself in the debates.
re: #216 Skip Intro
As I said, we’ll have to wait and see how long TelePrompTer Trump lasts. Given his obvious difficulty with reading and his horrible personal judgement, not for long I think.
I wonder how the West Bend crowd felt about having to wait an hour for Trump to show up and then just stumble through a lukewarm script about ‘the other’. I bet a lot of them feel ripped off this morning.
re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg
I really think Trump will totally torpedo himself in the debates.
Certain media types will bend over backwards to say Trump somehow did well in them.
re: #219 Eclectic Cyborg
Either that or they just don’t want to fucking do it.
too much chance to be tied to the inevitable big loss
So, Manafort, who has been trying to control Trump, just got a demotion. And was replaced by the head of Breitbart.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
re: #215 dangerman
It’s not about conservatism at all. It’s about white nationalism, protectionism, and fascism.
There are still some decent conservatives out there who have a real set of values that they try to live and not just pay lip service to, and they are starting to realize that they are no longer at home in this GOP.
And some religious conservatives who are painfully aware that anyone who gets up and reads from “Two Corinthians” has never attended a church service.
(Remember people offering the excuse that in some remote parts of Scotland, where Trump’s grandmother comes from, they use that nomenclature?)
LOL this guy puts Baghdad Bob to utter shame
This race is now TIED and we haven’t even got to the point the race becomes about ISSUES. Hillary is toast.
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) August 17, 2016
How surprising. (NYT via JoeMyGod)
By the time Chris Christie became governor of New Jersey, the state’s auditors and lawyers had been battling for several years to collect long-overdue taxes owed by the casinos founded by his friend Donald J. Trump.
The total, with interest, had grown to almost $30 million. The state had doggedly pursued the matter through two of the casinos’ bankruptcy cases and even accused the company led by Mr. Trump of filing false reports with state casino regulators about the amount of taxes it had paid.
But the year after Governor Christie, a Republican, took office, the tone of the litigation shifted. The state entertained settlement offers. And in December 2011, after six years in court, the state agreed to accept just $5 million, roughly 17 cents on the dollar of what auditors said the casinos owed.
Tax authorities sometimes settle for lesser amounts to avoid the costs and risks of further litigation, legal experts said, but the steep discount granted to the Trump casinos and the relationship between the two men raise inevitable questions about special treatment.
re: #228 The Vicious Babushka
LOL this guy puts Baghdad Bob to utter shame
Makes HA Goodman look like an exemplar of accuracy and thoughtfulness.
re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
(Remember people offering the excuse that in some remote parts of Scotland, where Trump’s grandmother comes from, they use that nomenclature?)
SRSLY? When I heard that, I just flashed back to Archie Bunker quoting “Romans 2, two dots, 15” or whatever it was….
Kyle MacLachlan just brilliantly retold the plot of Dune in emoji for a fan on Twitter: https://t.co/ZSpjrjl4iJ pic.twitter.com/IV3G9ML1gj
— Slate (@Slate) August 17, 2016
Brilliant!
re: #229 stpaulbear
How surprising. (NYT via JoeMyGod)
But Corzine skimming a few bucks of the top was a terrible thing. Give me a little honest graft any day.
re: #230 Sir John Barron
Makes HA Goodman look like an exemplar of accuracy and thoughtfulness.
Speaking of which, he’s been quiet lately. Hmm wonder why. But yeah this guy is a special kind of delusional.
re: #226 Jenner7
So, Manafort, who has been trying to control Trump, just got a demotion. And was replaced by the head of Breitbart.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
They want to get him out of the way before the indictment comes down.
It’s becoming obvious that he’s a Russian agent at this point.
re: #229 stpaulbear
Not the first time Christie’s signed off on a deal that was a giveaway to corporate interests.
He signed off on a deal with Exxon to settle a $9B pollution lawsuit for $225M, even though the settlement wouldn’t cover the restoration costs of decades of pollution at those sites.
Then he gives a sweetheart deal to Trump.
That’s money that Christie deprived the state to keep some business entities happy.
Had Christie settled the Exxon suit for $2-3 billion, which was far more reasonable, he could have funded the transportation trust fund properly, set up funding for the new Gateway tunnel project, etc.
re: #233 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
But Corzine skimming a few bucks of the top was a terrible thing. Give me a little honest graft any day.
Yeah I remember Christie got elected as a reformer. What a joke. The guy’s crooked.
re: #76 Decatur Deb
That’s S.White, a street performer/YouTuber in Taipei who’s become somewhat of a star.
Her counterpart is Vela Blue, another Taipei local drummer.
re: #228 The Vicious Babushka
Wait, is that the guy from A&E?
re: #239 Eclectic Cyborg
Wait, is that the guy from A&E?
He’s a right-wing radio Trumporrhoid who tweets about unskewing the polls.
I am getting kinda bored of him.
Unfortunately one of the alleged biggest things Trump has going for him (no political experience) is something that cannot be altered or taken away.
While I’m excited that the CEO of Breitbart is the new Trump campaign boss, I can’t wait until October, when Alex Jones takes over.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) August 17, 2016
re: #240 The Vicious Babushka
Apparently I mixed him up with Bill Kurtis.
re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg
Apparently I mixed him up with Bill Kurtis.
I don’t know if Bill Kurtis is particularly political. I’d still be disappointed if he were a Trumper though since I liked his crime shows.
Remember the cake-kicking woman? Well…
Cake-kicking woman has epic meltdown and assaults worker because they ran out of ice cream
re: #244 HappyWarrior
I don’t know if Bill Kurtis is particularly political. I’d still be disappointed if he were a Trumper though since I liked his crime shows.
Yeah it’s not him.
Well as expected, the outrage dujour is about Biden. Yawn. Really, if it it was the huge outrage that certain individuals are making it out to be, the Joint Chiefs or retired generals would be saying things rather than the constantly looking to bitch.
re: #215 dangerman
i dont see where they did that
job first
tepid party support second
country a distant third (or maybe 7th)
Rational-Tempered-By-Meliorism Wiki
re: #247 Sir John Barron
Yeah it’s not him.
Yeah I remembered his name. Didn’t know if it was Curtis he was referring to or not though. Seriously tho, how delusional is that guy? I mean Trump’s alienated so many people. I guess that’s what happens when you live in an ideological vaccum and that just because no one you know supports Hillary that means Trump is tied or even winning.
re: #248 HappyWarrior
Well as expected, the outrage dujour is about Biden. Yawn. Really, if it it was the huge outrage that certain individuals are making it out to be, the Joint Chiefs or retired generals would be saying things rather than the constantly looking to bitch.
What’s the Biden issue?
With Trump to begin TV ad buys Friday, here’s current battleground comparison in ad $$$ https://t.co/3hX6XjDTQ0 pic.twitter.com/YgAg4sn6Vz
— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) August 17, 2016
re: #253 The Vicious Babushka
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I haven’t seen any pro-Trump ads yet. It’s amazing how bad they are at this part of the game. Like comically so.
I follow Tim Kaine on Facebook. Nice post this morning about stopping in Newport and seeing a synagogue that President Washington visited 226 years ago that reaffirmed the commitment to religious freedom by the Founders.
re: #256 HappyWarrior
I haven’t seen any pro-Trump ads yet. It’s amazing how bad they are at this part of the game. Like comically so.
I saw some pro-Hillary ads during the Olympics. The entire NBC Olympics coverage is like 90% ads, 7% Olympics-related promotional material (TeamUSA bios & profiles) and 3% actual Olympic events.
Two tweet storms to read:
1) A few thoughts about Trump and Bannon, and what it says about conservative mythology.
— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) August 17, 2016
.@imillhiser (1) As Dean Acheson wrote in the mid 1950s: “Democrats are a coalition. Republicans are a faith.” It used to be Republicans
— J. Bradford DeLong (@delong) August 17, 2016
Both reflect good analysis of what is happening to the GOP, and how the party is now the party of Trump.
re: #258 The Vicious Babushka
I saw some pro-Hillary ads during the Olympics. The entire NBC Olympics coverage is like 90% ads, 7% Olympics-related promotional material (TeamUSA bios & profiles) and 3% actual Olympic events.
Yeah I’ve seen some pro Clinton ads here too.
LOL this guy==>
What has Hillary done for women the past 30 years? That’s almost 8 times as long as she would be POTUS.
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) August 17, 2016
re: #238 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
That’s S.White, a street performer/YouTuber in Taipei who’s become somewhat of a star.
Her counterpart is Vela Blue, another Taipei local drummer.
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The music is good, but they really seem to take great joy in the moment.
Huge rallies. Gloves off. Brutal fights with Clinton. Heavy emphasis on nationalism and populism. That’s the Bannon strategy.
— Robert Costa (@costareports) August 17, 2016
And how is any of that different than what Trump was trying to do until now? Trump’s incoherence is what is limiting him here. He’s incapable of staying on target. Trump can’t keep to a message, even if it’s one he stated moments earlier in a speech.
No discipline at all, but Trump’s already thrown the gloves off and reached for the nativists and nationalists. That’s why his biggest and most vocal support comes from the bigot brigade including white supremacists. They get Trump’s message for what it is.
re: #259 lawhawk
Two tweet storms to read:
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Both reflect good analysis of what is happening to the GOP, and how the party is now the party of Trump.
My great grandfather on my dad’s side was an immigrant and a Republican apparently. It’s amazing how the party has become such a nasty cesspool for the worst elements in American society. I mean I don’t think I could have even been a Republican then but they’ve gone a long way from being the party of Lincoln.
re: #256 HappyWarrior
I haven’t seen any pro-Trump ads yet. It’s amazing how bad they are at this part of the game. Like comically so.
don’t think I’ve seen any Hillary ads yet either. That may have, and probably does have, something to do with my location (MD-Va). But I watch some TV that isn’t localized. For instance I saw a hideously awful ad by some Missouri politician (can’t remember the office) basically all Terrorist Syrian refugees all terrorists stop liberal terrorists bringing in Syrian refugee terrorists!!!!!.
re: #261 The Vicious Babushka
LOL this guy==>
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Well you could start by reading about what she did as Secretary of State but seeing as you have your head up your right wing ass.
re: #265 Sir John Barron
don’t think I’ve seen any Hillary ads yet either. That may have, and probably does have, something to do with my location (MD-Va). But I watch some TV that isn’t localized. For instance I saw a hideously awful ad by some Missouri politician (can’t remember the office) basically all Terrorist Syrian refugees all terrorists stop liberal terrorists bringing in Syrian refugee terrorists!!!!!.
Speaking of MD, I was looking at that independents and Republicans for Clinton release, a name from the past caught my eye, Connie Morella. She’s supporting Clinton. No shock.
re: #261 The Vicious Babushka
LOL this guy==>
Mention any of her or the Democratic Party’s accomplishments and you get Free stuff!! Moar Free stuff!!! Just free stuff!!!!.
Bannon from Breitbart isn’t going to help Trump. If anything, I think he may be weaker with him. Monafort may be a Russian lackey but he’s able to act stable. Breitbart, well we know how Breitbart is.
re: #268 Sir John Barron
Mention any of her or the Democratic Party’s accomplishments and you get Free stuff!! Moar Free stuff!!! Just free stuff!!!!.
I always love the claim that Democrats and Democratic voters want free stuff. Actually, IMO that’s the Republicans. They’re the ones who want decent roads, schools, and a state of the art military but yet they constantly expect their taxes to be cut.
re: #257 HappyWarrior
I follow Tim Kaine on Facebook. Nice post this morning about stopping in Newport and seeing a synagogue that President Washington visited 226 years ago that reaffirmed the commitment to religious freedom by the Founders.
Kaine has been more energetic than I imagined he’d be. I supported his selection, but wasn’t sure what dynamic he’d ultimately bring to the race. Much pleased so far.
re: #271 Sir John Barron
Kaine has been more energetic than I imagined he’d be. I supported his selection, but wasn’t sure what dynamic he’d ultimately bring to the race. Much pleased so far.
I’ll be honest. I’m pleasantly surprised too. I’ve always thought highly of him but he’s been a home run so faor for Clinotn. I thought he’d be a more good old double.
re: #258 The Vicious Babushka
Heh. Reminds me of something P.J. O’Rourke once wrote about the Olympics….I forgot which year. He described it as a (paraphrasing) “two-week long Snickers commercial, occasionally interrupted by something like the Women’s 100-meter dash or the Decathlon”.
From last night’s storms in NYC:
STUNNING! Jennifer Khordi ducked down for cover, but still managed to get these shots at Exchange Pl w/ her camera: pic.twitter.com/vgvWqPvhHS
— Steven Sosna (@SteveSosna4NY) August 17, 2016
re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There are still some decent conservatives out there who have a real set of values that they try to live and not just pay lip service to, and they are starting to realize that they are no longer at home in this GOP.
…snip
There are still American Bison near Pittsburgh. They don’t run the place.
re: #90 Decatur Deb
Which could signal a turn back to the nonsense that has put him in the polling toilet.
Bannon and Conway? I’d say you’re 100% correct. Remember, Bannon, among his other idiocies, was the one who championed that ridiculous Sarah Palin movie, The Undefeated, uh huh. and Kellyanne is just nuts.
Pro-Gary Johnson super PAC reports spending $30,000 on “internet web memes” https://t.co/PBFAGK5TK4 pic.twitter.com/ai5ERHEQOM
— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) August 17, 2016
Internet web memes?
French frogs? Hillary as Killary? Trump as Chicken Littlefinger?
When you want to reach undecided voters, go with the news org that couldn’t even defend its own reporter when she was assaulted.
re: #276 BeachDem
Bannon and Conway? I’d say you’re 100% correct. Remember, Bannon, among his other idiocies, was the one who championed that ridiculous Sarah Palin movie, The Undefeated, uh huh. and Kellyanne is just nuts.
Well, Palin managed to quit her Alaskan governorship before her undisputed title to UNDEFEATED was tested. That’s of course not counting her loss as VP.
re: #277 lawhawk
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Internet web memes?
French frogs? Hillary as Killary? Trump as Chicken Littlefinger?
Typo—“Mimes”
If Trump does not win the Presidency, I’ll quit Twitter and shut down YourVoice™ Radio on November 9th.
America would be beyond helping.— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) August 17, 2016
re: #282 The Vicious Babushka
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Oh the Glenn Beck model, AMERICA SUCKS IF THEY DON”T DO WAHT I WANT.
The guy who brought you the “Undefeated” re Sarah Palin is now leading Donald Trump’s campaign. Can Republicans spot the problem yet?
— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) August 17, 2016
re: #262 Decatur Deb
The music is good, but they really seem to take great joy in the moment.
AFAIK, both do drum covers of popular music, though Vela Blue is trying to start a singing career.
Meanwhile, Japanese jazz drummer Senri Kawaguchi is touring China, and of course returns to Japan the same day I land back in China. I would have loved to catch her show.
re: #282 The Vicious Babushka
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Gonna delete his account until he’s blue in the face.
re: #279 HappyWarrior
When you want to reach undecided voters, go with the news org that couldn’t even defend its own reporter when she was assaulted.
Game recognize game, Hap.
Watch how fast Trump runs from Manafort once the shit hits the fan. He’ll deny ever even knowing him.
re: #287 makeitstop
Game recognie game, Hap.
Watch how fast Trump runs from Manafort once the shit hits the fan. He’ll deny ever even knowing him.
Yep. Knowing Trump, he’ll probably claim he never knew him or something like that.
re: #288 HappyWarrior
Yep. Knowing Trump, he’ll probably claim he never knew him or something like that.
Donald Trump: “Manawho? Never heard of him. Campaign manager? He was never my campaign manager. Stop telling lies.”
Sam scores another gorgeous nickname in this edition of Real or Fake.https://t.co/ewMhzE0sir
— Full Frontal (@FullFrontalSamB) August 17, 2016
Trump says he doesn’t trust US intelligence agencies and won’t use them if elected: https://t.co/4EHR22S8Xo pic.twitter.com/oG7vTjisUr
— The Hill (@thehill) August 17, 2016
Oh, Port Townsend…don’t ever change:
Faux Victorian couple ejected from Butchart Gardens for fancy attire
re: #284 jaunte
RedState editor:
This latest Trump campaign reshuffle is NOT like reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. It’s like replacing the deck chairs with napalm
— Leon Wolf (@LeonHWolf) August 17, 2016
Trump will not rely on US intelligence assessments, but on what his friend Putin tells him.
re: #291 jaunte
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Yet Biden is awful because of what he did. Yep keep on telling yourselves that Trump apologists.
re: #295 Lidane
RedState editor:
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And these are like minded individuals. I don’t like RedState or Erickson especially at all but they know how full of shit Trump and Breitbart really are.
re: #291 jaunte
So why is he getting security briefings w/ info gathered by intel agencies he doesn’t trust? Would he prefer intel from GRU? FSB? @thehill
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 17, 2016
re: #289 Dr Lizardo
Donald Trump: “Manawho? Never heard of him. Campaign manager? He was never my campaign manager. Stop telling lies.”
“I barely knew him. He was just a guy that they told me to get.” Or some shit like that. Really I can’t see Bannon helping at all. He’s going to tell Trump to preach to the choir which will probably lower him even more.
re: #291 jaunte
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Jesus fuck! Can you imagine if Hillary would have said the exact same thing?
re: #299 lawhawk
So why is he getting security briefings w/ info gathered by intel agencies he doesn’t trust? Would he prefer intel from GRU? FSB?
He wants to get his information from someone that doesn’t make him sign a non-disclosure statement.
A Presidential candidate that just started getting classified information, does not trust our intel.
I…uh….my gah…
WHAT?
re: #291 jaunte
Trump says he doesn’t trust US intelligence agencies and won’t use them if elected
He’ll use Putin’s guys instead.
Trump is seriously hoping the sheer volume of batshit insanity will help mask just how batshit said insanities actually are. It may work too…not necessarily in a way that helps him win, mind, but helps normalize and mainstream the crazy until it becomes just another ‘boys will be boys’ ‘he said she said’ talking point opposite actual sane positions.
We still got all of of September and October to go. It’s like a bad trainwreck. He’s going to do something apically stupid and or dangerous.
re: #95 Anymouse
From the article: “…a close associate described Trump as frustrated at the state of the race, leveling complaints that he has been the victim of bad advice from his political team.”
Not good to shake up your campaign staff this close to the election. Worse if you are feuding with your campaign staff: It’s the staff that ensures everything runs smoothly (or at all).
Yeah, these constant shake-ups and realignments within his campaign staff reveal for all to see that The Donald sucks as a leader and manager. Can you imagine him constantly reshuffling his cabinet?
Poor Donny was the victim(?) of bad advice. Face it Donald, you took their advice, so it’s on you! You said you would surround yourself with the best people but now say they gave you bad advice. They probably gave you good advice but you just could not take it——-you had to do everything your way. Now that you are cratering in the polls you have made a couple of short lived attempts to pivot and when that did not catapult you back to top polling numbers immediately, you blamed your team. Sorry assed loser.
re: #299 lawhawk
So why is he getting security briefings w/ info gathered by intel agencies he doesn’t trust? Would he prefer intel from GRU? FSB?
Stratfor
re: #313 HappyWarrior
We still got all of of September and October to go. It’s like a bad trainwreck. He’s going to do something apically stupid and or dangerous.
Sit back, pull your camera out, and record it all.
re: #313 HappyWarrior
We still got all of of September and October to go. It’s like a bad trainwreck. He’s going to do something apically stupid and or dangerous.
The problem with trainwrecks is how much damage they might leave behind in its wake. I’m pretty well convinced Trump is cooked, but how much of the crazy bullshit he leaves behind will persist after him? How much will become the new conventional wisdom simply because ‘both sides same thing’?
re: #282 The Vicious Babushka
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If Trump does not win the Presidency, I’ll quit Twitter and shut down YourVoiceTM Radio on November 9th.
Promises, promises.
re: #319 Kryptik: Just Done With It.
The problem with trainwrecks is how much damage they might leave behind in its wake. I’m pretty well convinced Trump is cooked, but how much of the crazy bullshit he leaves behind will persist after him? How much will become the new conventional wisdom simply because ‘both sides same thing’?
A very good point. Trump’s positions and general rhetoric may be GOP mainstream by 2020. Unfortunately, I don’t see anything within the Republican Party that wants to actually confront what a shit show it’s become. I despise the GOP of course but they will certainly remain the 2nd largest party in our country after teh election.
More evidence Trump gets his talking points from white supremacists==>
Donald Trump’s new attack on Hillary Clinton echoes white supremacists https://t.co/k8T6UjOL0j pic.twitter.com/xdbJUMyRCz
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) August 17, 2016
re: #310 makeitstop
He’ll use Putin’s guys instead.
Scowcroft’s gonna have a fucking aneurysm—maybe all over the op-ed page.
election.princeton.edu
This was music to my ears though.
re: #322 The Vicious Babushka
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His whole campaign is a talking point to white supremacist assholes.
re: #291 jaunte
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I’m really looking forward to his surrogates…not addressing this in any meaningful fashion.
re: #323 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Scowcroft’s gonna have a fucking aneurysm—maybe all over the op-ed page.
Was really glad to see he endorsed Clinton. I’d never would have voted for H.W Bush but his presidency was respectable.
re: #326 Targetpractice
Boris Epshteyn this morning claimed the management reshuffle in the Trump campaign was merely an “expansion” of the team, so they seem to be freshly stocked with Brazen Denial.
Trump’s last speech I heard echoed a cesspool narrative of the right: that the AA community has been duped and greatly underserved for decades by the Democratic party and somehow he’s going to make that right.
It belies the belief that Democrats don’t actually care for AA people and are just giving them free stuff to get votes. And worse, it implies that AA are too stupid to act in their own best interest and know they’re being duped.
Straight up racism.
“The wall you want to build across the U.S.-Mexico border will be a double-edged sword or a self-inflicted wound.” https://t.co/uc1EZJ7PT0
Essentially, Steve Bannon will be holding a large gilt mirror up Donald Trump to gaze into with awe. Cuz that’s new.
— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) August 17, 2016
SURGING! LOL
HILLARY’S IN TROUBLE
LA Times Poll: Trump’s SURGING w/ African Americans.https://t.co/gB63jEevIo pic.twitter.com/g7RWAuyeRv@mitchellvii— Boca Vista (@bocavista2016) August 17, 2016
re: #329 BigPapa
Trump’s last speech I heard echoed a cesspool narrative of the right: that the AA community has been duped and greatly underserved for decades by the Democratic party and somehow he’s going to make that right.
It belies the belief that Democrats don’t actually care for AA people and are just giving them free stuff to get votes. And worse, it implies that AA are too stupid to act in their own best interest and know they’re being duped.
Straight up racism.
This narrative has been around about as long as the GOP’s “Southern Strategy”.
re: #282 The Vicious Babushka
Save this tweet for November 9th to make sure this fool keeps his promise. Trump is not going to win. That’s pretty clear from the polls. Idiot.
Donald Trump: The NYT is biased bc it’s “owned by Mexico.” So… judges, now papers. https://t.co/4WapNy88bm
— Amanda Terkel (@aterkel) August 17, 2016
Actual Giuliani quote about Trump’s speech last night:
— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) August 17, 2016
“I think this is the best speech that any Republican, at the least, has ever given.”
Lewandowski encouraged the Trump staff shakeup that sidelined his replacement, Paul Manafort https://t.co/NTwtPwh5I0 pic.twitter.com/lorHjoCKbE
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 17, 2016
How is a guy who was with Trump’s campaign, then sent packing to CNN, still influencing the campaign and forcing changes?
re: #333 The Vicious Babushka
SURGING! LOL
“We’re the fastest growing brand among African Americans!”
Pam Geller on hiring Bannon: “Trump has made a wise decision.”
— Gideon Resnick (@GideonResnick) August 17, 2016
There’s a certifiable nut signing off on Trump’s latest move.
re: #334 Sir John Barron
This narrative has been around about as long as the GOP’s “Southern Strategy”.
True, but it seemed to stay out of the mainstream for some time and be relegated to the fringes. It has now returned to the forefront of the GOP ID.
I’m sure that’s going to give him a bump with AA folk.
re: #329 BigPapa
Trump’s last speech I heard echoed a cesspool narrative of the right: that the AA community has been duped and greatly underserved for decades by the Democratic party and somehow he’s going to make that right.
It belies the belief that Democrats don’t actually care for AA people and are just giving them free stuff to get votes. And worse, it implies that AA are too stupid to act in their own best interest and know they’re being duped.
Straight up racism.
As I noted last night, it was the sort of speech that George Wallace would have given back in the day in defense of segregation, though with some of the actors changed (i.e. scaring black folks with hispanics “taking their jobs” rather than scaring white folks). But we were still told about how black folks are being duped by the DNC, how the chaos caused by people fighting for equality is making life difficult for “peaceful” black folks, and how the inner cities are a cesspool that Democrats are totally responsible for.
re: #276 BeachDem
Well if you quit, you’re not defeated, right?
re: #335 Patricia Kayden
Save this tweet for November 9th to make sure this fool keeps his promise. Trump is not going to win. That’s pretty clear from the polls. Idiot.
By Nov 9 it will be all about VOTE FRAUD INVESTIGATE RESIST!!!!
re: #338 lawhawk
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How is a guy who was with Trump’s campaign, then sent packing to CNN, still influencing the campaign and forcing changes?
Corey sure knows how to pivot. He’s the best. You’re going to love the Pivolocity!
re: #345 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
CNN guests stare at Katrina Pierson like crazy person for denying Trump campaign shake-up happened
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Why is Katrina Pierson still on TV?
re: #338 lawhawk
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How is a guy who was with Trump’s campaign, then sent packing to CNN, still influencing the campaign and forcing changes?
I’m old enough to remember when the press was declaring before the dust had settled in New Hampshire that rumors that there would be a staff shake-up in the Clinton campaign would mean her campaign was in tail-spin.
HEH!
Trump campaign meeting before the shake-up https://t.co/dndSWsuqr2
— Jordan Ashby (@JM_Ashby) August 17, 2016
lololol
As a woman I am disgusted at obedient ‘feminists’ shilling for multi-national corps witchunting brave @Wikileaks editor Julian #Assange
— FREE ASSANGE #JA4Me (@AssangeCase) August 17, 2016
re: #256 HappyWarrior
I haven’t seen any pro-Trump ads yet. It’s amazing how bad they are at this part of the game. Like comically so.
I have yet to see a pro-Trump or anti-Clinton ad as yet either but I live in the DC/MD area so I assume his people aren’t planning to waste money in my area. I have seen a few pro-Clinton ads though.
I notice that Trump’s phone (silent since Sunday evening) is still out of his reach.
re: #350 Nyet
lololol
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She might want to ask all of the Turkish women who’s personal info got dumped by Assange how they feel about Wikileaks.
re: #345 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
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I’d almost feel bad for Pierson, if she wasn’t such a venal, mean person.
But as it is, I love watching these talking heads smack her around on the regular.
Right wing plumbs the depths:
WIKILEAKS - HILLARY CLINTON WEARS DIAPERS (freeper re-post)
Is this Assange’s “deciding piece of information that will destroy the Clinton candidacy”?
The loons think so, but their sourcing frankly stinks:
“Durable Adult Diapers” These bizarre search words seem to indicate that something is not right with Hillary Clinton. WIKILEAKS’ hackers managed to hack themselves into Hillary’s private browser on one of her on-trail laptops.
They extracted the search history for the past two months and released them in a data-dump on their website.
This is an obvious load of shit. They hacked her private laptop and could find nothing better than a search for diapers? It was released yesterday afternoon and there is still no other source?
Beyond that, the pure cruelty of thinking that such a revelation would “finish her” is quite striking, and risks alienating a big part of Trump’s elderly base, but reflects the usual level of decency we would expect from Randian conspira-liars (ie none at all).
Most of the freepers are gleefully buying it, but there are quite a few dissenters:
“This goes below the belt (sorry) but seriously, we’re all going to get old and this is just cruel, it will only gain her sympathy. I take no joy in this level of nastiness ..”
“This is not the way I want Trump to win the election.
I want Trump to win so that we can put this nation on the right track and hand the globalists currently running this nation a stinging rebuke.”
“Exactly. Republicans should be very cautious in using this information.
The media would be very eager to portray us as cruel and heartless.”
“I agree. Of all the things we have heard about Hillary, this one thing I don’t find unusual. Considering all the factors (her age, her health, stuck in public appearances) I give her a pass on this.”
“I agree. Trump especially should refrain from making any comments about this whatsoever.”
I expect SMOTI to run with it.
re: #351 Patricia Kayden
I have yet to see a pro-Trump or anti-Clinton ad as yet either but I live in the DC/MD area so I assume his people aren’t planning to waste money in my area. I have seen a few pro-Clinton ads though.
You’re probably getting the ads meant for us here in Va. I’ve seen MD ads before.
re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth
I notice that Trump’s phone (silent since Sunday evening) is still out of his reach.
Didn’t he tweet something last night? Or was that his hired sock-puppet?
re: #353 Mattand
She might want to ask all of the Turkish women who’s personal info got dumped by Assange how they feel about Wikileaks.
She might want to ask the women who were raped by Assange.
re: #353 Mattand
She might want to ask all of the Turkish women who’s personal info got dumped by Assange how they feel about Wikileaks.
All for the greater good I’m sure. I’m disgusted by people who continue to defend Wikileaks when it’s clear as day what Assenge is all about.
re: #357 makeitstop
Didn’t he tweet something last night? Or was that his hired sock-puppet?
Somebody tweeted something from Trump’s account using an iphone. The “real” Trump tweets all come from an android.
I don’t feel bad for Pierson at all. She chose to work for Trump and she is a bigoted person in her own right.
re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth
I notice that Trump’s phone (silent since Sunday evening) is still out of his reach.
I wonder if that’s Ailes’s doing.
When I heard Ailes was helping with debate prep, I have to admit it has me worried. Ailes could convince snails that swimming in salt water is beneficial to their health.
Then I heard that Trump hired the psycho who runs Ghost of Dead breitbart.com and I thought, “Okay, Trump just quadrupled down on crazy. I can breathe easier now.”
The head butting between the fine minds responsible for two of the most horrendous GOP propaganda outfits should be glorious.
re: #361 Nyet
All we know is that Trump wears red diapers.
//
That means he is bleeding out of his wherever.
@mitchellvii I would bet money that you wouldn’t really go through with that, but you’d just reappear with a new handle and a new show
— jay (@random__name) August 17, 2016
re: #358 The Vicious Babushka
She might want to ask the women who were raped by Assange.
Well, we don’t know if he raped anyone, and there is only one rape charge (which is just an accusation, not a fact).
re: #364 Mattand
I wonder if that’s Ailes’s doing.
When I heard Ailes was helping with debate prep, I have to admit it has me worried. Ailes could convince snails that swimming in salt water is beneficial to their health.
Then I heard that Trump hired the psycho who runs Ghost of Dead breitbart.com and I thought, “Okay, Trump just quadrupled down on crazy. I can breathe easier now.”
The head butting between the fine minds responsible for two of the most horrendous GOP propaganda outfits should be glorious.
I don’t know. I think Ailes is frankly a relic. His shit may have worked in 1988 but definitely the Bannon hire has me more relaxed. I just don’t know what Trump can do at this point. If he were a normal individual maybe but if he were a normal individual, this wouldn’t be this race.
re: #369 HappyWarrior
I don’t know. I think Ailes is frankly a relic. His shit may have worked in 1988 but definitely the Bannon hire has me more relaxed. I just don’t know what Trump can do at this point. If he were a normal individual maybe but if he were a normal individual, this wouldn’t be this race.
Word.
So, Trump’s new strategery is to hold one “massive” rally per day instead of several smaller ones. (Hey, he’s old and tired—less wear and tear, amirite?) According to his braintrust from Florida yesterday, every Trump rally is the equivalent of 40,000 door knocks—wonder if that number now increases? According to Trump Math, a rally is probably now worth 11ty billion door knocks. Uh huh…
Do you have to sign up with twitter to know whether a tweet is sent with an android or iphone?
re: #345 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
CNN guests stare at Katrina Pierson like crazy person for denying Trump campaign shake-up happened
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Huma Abedin! Drink! (It’s coffee. Good coffee.)
that wasnt a speech reaching out to black people
it was a speech saying what bigots want to say to black people
re: #372 Jenner7
Do you have to sign up with twitter to know whether a tweet is sent with an android or iphone?
Tweetdeck has this information, regular Twitter doesn’t.
re: #373 wrenchwench
Huma Abedin! Drink! (It’s coffee. Good coffee.)
Yeah, these random tangents of hers are Gold, Jerry—GOLD!
re: #371 BeachDem
So, Trump’s new strategery is to hold one “massive” rally per day instead of several smaller ones. (Hey, he’s old and tired—less wear and tear, amirite?) According to his braintrust from Florida yesterday, every Trump rally is the equivalent of 40,000 door knocks—wonder if that number now increases? According to Trump Math, a rally is probably now worth 11ty billion door knocks. Uh huh…
Venues for 200, and there are “thousands outside trying to get in!!!”
re: #355 Shiplord Kirel
Right wing plumbs the depths:
WIKILEAKS - HILLARY CLINTON WEARS DIAPERS (freeper re-post)
Is this Assange’s “deciding piece of information that will destroy the Clinton candidacy”?
The loons think so, but their sourcing frankly stinks:This is an obvious load of shit. They hacked her private laptop and could find nothing better than a search for diapers? It was released yesterday afternoon and there is still no other source?
Beyond that, the pure cruelty of thinking that such a revelation would “finish her” is quite striking, and risks alienating a big part of Trump’s elderly base, but reflects the usual level of decency we would expect from Randian conspira-liars (ie none at all).
Most of the freepers are gleefully buying it, but there are quite a few dissenters:
I expect SMOTI to run with it.
Well now, we know that Wikileaks is just all about open government and transparency and all that good, pure virtuous stuff.
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re: #364 Mattand
I wonder if that’s Ailes’s doing.
When I heard Ailes was helping with debate prep, I have to admit it has me worried. Ailes could convince snails that swimming in salt water is beneficial to their health.
Then I heard that Trump hired the psycho who runs Ghost of Dead breitbart.com and I thought, “Okay, Trump just quadrupled down on crazy. I can breathe easier now.”
The head butting between the fine minds responsible for two of the most horrendous GOP propaganda outfits should be glorious.
I do believe Ailes is advising. The upcoming media appearances should tell the tale - if he’s more in control of his craziness and looks more ‘presidential,’ that’s Ailes at work.
But I think he’s advising with one condition - that they never once say that it’s actually happening (unless Trump wins). Ailes gets to cover his ass and walk away unscathed if the electoral beatdown is as bad as the polls now indicate.
re: #373 wrenchwench
Huma Abedin! Drink! (It’s coffee. Good coffee.)
Huma Abedin is the new Valerie Jarrett for RWNJ to rail about.
re: #374 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
that wasnt a speech reaching out to black people
it was a speech saying what bigots want to say to black people
Exactly. It’s what the bigots have always dreamed would work. After all, don’t Allen West and Sheriff Clarke say that sort of thing? And they’re black! So it’s not racist to say that black people are uniquely corruptible by giving them ‘free stuff’ which is actually available to any citizen. They’re just too stupid to realize it!
This is the ‘Bill Cosby Takes Black People To The Woodshed!’ fantasy, only now that Cosby has been exposed as a serial rapist they have to find somebody else.
July 2016 was the warmest month ever recorded https://t.co/xuHrGbyGmL pic.twitter.com/5L1anrwDCI
— Popular Science (@PopSci) August 17, 2016
re: #381 Blind Frog Belly White
Exactly. It’s what the bigots have always dreamed would work. After all, don’t Allen West and Sheriff Clarke say that sort of thing? And they’re black! So it’s not racist to say that black people are uniquely corruptible by giving them ‘free stuff’ which is actually available to any citizen. They’re just too stupid to realize it!
This is the ‘Bill Cosby Takes Black People To The Woodshed!’ fantasy, only now that Cosby has been exposed as a serial rapist they have to find somebody else.
I have a friend who uses people like Clarke and West to put down protesters. It’s fucked up.
Bannon is such a POWERHOUSE//
Re his blockbuster movie about Sarah Palin, The Undefeated:
Has a 0% rating at Rotten Tomatoes.
Grossed only $116,381 with a budget of $1,000,000. Opened to a nearly deserted theater in conservative stronghold Orange County, California.
imdb.com
He’s obviously a WINNER, just like Trump!
re: #382 FormerDirtDart
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And yet it will still snow somewhere in America in December, so global warming is so totally a hoax because “cycles.”
re: #374 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
that wasnt a speech reaching out to black people
it was a speech saying what bigots want to say to black people
I’m still pissed as hell. Wish I never watched it.
re: #381 Blind Frog Belly White
Exactly. It’s what the bigots have always dreamed would work. After all, don’t Allen West and Sheriff Clarke say that sort of thing? And they’re black! So it’s not racist to say that black people are uniquely corruptible by giving them ‘free stuff’ which is actually available to any citizen. They’re just too stupid to realize it!
This is the ‘Bill Cosby Takes Black People To The Woodshed!’ fantasy, only now that Cosby has been exposed as a serial rapist they have to find somebody else.
They have already found Allen West & Sheriff Clarke to replace Cosby.
re: #371 BeachDem
But it’s always the same 40000 doors.
re: #387 The Vicious Babushka
They have already found Allen West & Sheriff Clarke to replace Cosby.
Clarke is the go to guy for that sort of thing now. It’s really fucked up.
re: #383 HappyWarrior
I have a friend who uses people like Clarke and West to put down protesters. It’s fucked up.
My favorite response to the protests is whitesplaining that blacks aren’t REALLY stopped by police more than anyone else, but the media has convinced them of it.
Then, when someone like Sen. Tim Scott speaks out on his experience of being stopped for no reason repeatedly, they say - and I really did see this in a comment on Scott’s speech - “You weren’t targeted. You were profiled, because black people are so prone to criminal behavior”, as if that makes it okay.
re: #378 Sir John Barron
Notice how freepers link to some dodgy website that doesn’t link to wikileaks? I tried to find anything about that on wl twitter and failed. Could that be that the “news item” is wholly fraudulent? If so, we will certainly see it at Dim Jim’s site soon.
re: #389 HappyWarrior
Clarke is the go to guy for that sort of thing now. It’s really fucked up.
That’s because Clarke is a two-fer: He’s a black man who hates other black people and is a sheriff.
re: #385 Targetpractice
And yet it will still snow somewhere in America in December, so global warming is so totally a hoax because “cycles.”
Remember Ryan questioning Global Warming because it snowed in Wisconsin in February? I wonder if Inholfe still has his snowball because it’s been a hot as hell summer here in the DC Metro area. So damn hot that I keep my sandals on until the last minute before jumping in the pool.
re: #390 Blind Frog Belly White
My favorite response to the protests is whitesplaining that blacks aren’t REALLY stopped by police more than anyone else, but the media has convinced them of it.
Then, when someone like Sen. Tim Scott speaks out on his experience of being stopped for no reason repeatedly, they say - and I really did see this in a comment on Scott’s speech - “You weren’t targeted. You were profiled, because black people are so prone to criminal behavior”, as if that makes it okay.
Yeah I’m sick of whitesplaining by people who have no idea or don’t even want to attempt to empathize with what African Americans go through. I’m not AA so I’ll never know what it’s like to be a black male but the least I can do is empathize and be aware of reality.
re: #392 Targetpractice
That’s because Clarke is a two-fer: He’s a black man who hates other black people and is a sheriff.
Yep, he’s perfect and he makes outrageous claims like linking BLM to ISIS which in a sane world should have made him lose any credibility but instead gets him more trips to the FNC set.
Alligators ate him.
Suspect with arrest warrants still missing two weeks after fleeing into sewer system in New Jersey. https://t.co/xfWd4P2dvg
— The Associated Press (@AP) August 17, 2016
re: #393 HappyWarrior
Remember Ryan questioning Global Warming because it snowed in Wisconsin in February? I wonder if Inholfe still has his snowball because it’s been a hot as hell summer here in the DC Metro area. So damn hot that I keep my sandals on until the last minute before jumping in the pool.
Actually read an article today about some coal groups acknowledging climate change, or at least that public opinion believes it, and therefore the coal industry, if it wants to survive, needs to embrace the strategy of the tobacco industry, which eventually bowed to the reality of greater regulation and is still thriving. I’ll try to find it.
So for some reason, I’m seeing various rehashings of the “spinning up as we speak” BENGHAZI!!!!!! email popping up on my facebook feed, like this one:
I linked to a Media Matters and a Salon article that should have been enough to debunk it, but I was told that it was “not a lie or fabrication by FoxNews. I indeed know this is 100% true. Wouldn’t post it if it wasn’t.”
So my questions are 1) Why is this a thing again suddenly since it gained little-to-no traction since Judicial Watch/Fox first “reported” it in December, and 2) Has there been a more thorough debunking that bothers to illustrate point-by-point why this is bullshit?
re: #397 Sir John Barron
Actually read an article today about some coal groups acknowledging climate change, or at least that public opinion believes it, and therefore the coal industry, if it wants to survive, needs to embrace the strategy of the tobacco industry, which eventually bowed to the reality of greater regulation and is still thriving. I’ll try to find it.
Interesting stuff. Honestly, I hope the coal industry declines. It’s just so bad for everyone involved. I do hope that we can help train the miners in new lines of work but I really hope mining can decline in this country.
re: #395 HappyWarrior
Yep, he’s perfect and he makes outrageous claims like linking BLM to ISIS which in a sane world should have made him lose any credibility but instead gets him more trips to the FNC set.
He’s their new Uncle Ruckus, the black guy they can bring on (always in uniform) to blame black people poorer than himself for all the problems in their community.
I should also add that this ‘AA vote Dem because’ narrative also strongly implies not only that AA are stupid but that they’re willing to be bought off for some free crap. That they’ll accept ‘living on the plantation’ for some tidbits, barely enough to exist on.
Very nasty white superiority/racist stuff. The GOP frontrunner is pushing this, although wrapped in a pretty ‘just trying to help AA folk’ wrapper with a ‘Dems really don’t care about AA folk’ bow tie.
re: #400 Targetpractice
He’s their new Uncle Ruckus, the black guy they can bring on (always in uniform) to blame black people poorer than himself for all the problems in their community.
I always hated how Cosby was used for that. As Hannibal Burress said to Cosby, “Yes we may wear our pants baggy but you rape people, Bill Cosby.” Honestly, white conservatives need to stop lecturing people and start listening to them but that will never happen.
re: #396 The Vicious Babushka
Alligators ate him.
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Well, I’d venture to say he met with a tragically shitty demise.
re: #401 BigPapa
I should also add that this ‘AA vote Dem because’ narrative also strongly implies not only that AA are stupid but that they’re willing to be bought off for some free crap. That they’ll accept ‘living on the plantation’ for some tidbits, barely enough to exist on.
Very nasty white superiority/racist stuff. The GOP frontrunner is pushing this, although wrapped in a pretty ‘just trying to help AA folk’ wrapper with a ‘Dems really don’t care about AA folk’ bow tie.
Indeed. It’s like hey “They’re too stupid to know what’s good for them but they’re also easily bought off.” Not to mention that there are plenty of whites on public assistance too and plenty of thriving African-Americans. The GOP will never admit it but they lost the African-American vote because they decided to cater to bigotry and took for granted a bloc that had long been loyal to them even in the early years of the Depression and after Reconstruction.
re: #401 BigPapa
I should also add that this ‘AA vote Dem because’ narrative also strongly implies not only that AA are stupid but that they’re willing to be bought off for some free crap. That they’ll accept ‘living on the plantation’ for some tidbits, barely enough to exist on.
Very nasty white superiority/racist stuff. The GOP frontrunner is pushing this, although wrapped in a pretty ‘just trying to help AA folk’ wrapper with a ‘Dems really don’t care about AA folk’ bow tie.
Except that’s been their argument for years now, that black voters would be so much better off under a Republican, but they’re on the “Dem plantation” and don’t realize it. That the DNC is buying them off with “free stuff” when the GOP’s offering them a pair of bootstraps and all the empty encouragement they can muster. If only black voters would vote for the GOP, they’d be so much better off, but they’re too dumb to realize they’re being exploited.
re: #104 fern01
Rather amazing - the last hour on MJ - 95% anti Trump - although some (Halperin & Kristol) are saying a new “email dump” will turn it around. They have said that if the “Russian link” was with the Hillary campaign it would be screamed throughout the political media.
Just remember it’s a day ending in “y” and Kristol is usually wrong on any day ending in “y.”
re: #403 Dr Lizardo
Well, I’d venture to say he met with a tragically shitty demise.
I can’t stop thinking of that scene in Les Mis where they are running through the sewers of Paris, covered in raw sewage, singing with their mouths wide open.
re: #396 The Vicious Babushka
Alligators ate him.
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{Morgan Freeman voice} “Just like my good friend Andy Dufresne.”
O_o
No joke. This is the lead story right now on Drudge: https://t.co/iCfxw77wIc pic.twitter.com/rMaDnx9ur2
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 17, 2016
re: #405 Targetpractice
Except that’s been their argument for years now, that black voters would be so much better off under a Republican, but they’re on the “Dem plantation” and don’t realize it. That the DNC is buying them off with “free stuff” when the GOP’s offering them a pair of bootstraps and all the empty encouragement they can muster. If only black voters would vote for the GOP, they’d be so much better off, but they’re too dumb to realize they’re being exploited.
They also don’t realize how offensive the “Dem Plantation” crap is. Hey black people, I know nothing about why you vote the way you do but I’m going to liken your political loyalty to forced human chattel and then acted shocked that you want nothing to do with my party. The fact is Republicans and conservatives in general don’t care about empathy towards those not like them. Even the reasonable ones struggle with that.
re: #399 HappyWarrior
Interesting stuff. Honestly, I hope the coal industry declines. It’s just so bad for everyone involved. I do hope that we can help train the miners in new lines of work but I really hope mining can decline in this country.
Here’s the article in the NYT:
re: #407 The Vicious Babushka
I can’t stop thinking of that scene in Les Mis where they are running through the sewers of Paris, covered in raw sewage, singing with their mouths wide open.
I thought of the Fluke Man episode of The X-Files.
HAH-HAH! JOE BIDEN Welcomed to Serbia WIth MASSIVE RALLY FOR TRUMP (VIDEO) https://t.co/2IaOL9lfEg via @gatewaypundit
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) August 17, 2016
Man who started Serbia’s ethnic cleansing leads pro-Trump rally in Belgradehttps://t.co/IfU61VDMJc#NeverTrump #tcot #teaparty #gop #PJNET
— Donny Ferguson (@DonnyFerguson) August 17, 2016
re: #412 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I thought of the Fluke Man episode of The X-Files.
The Golgothan Shit Demon in Dogma
re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth
O_o
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Propped up on pillows…? Like, Weekend at Bernie’s style? Did they use fishing line and dark sunglasses, too?
re: #413 The Vicious Babushka
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SMOTI being SMOTI. Oh not to mention that polls consistently say that Clinton is much more popular than Trump in Europe. But go ahead Jim, tout that Trump is supported by people who started genocide.
re: #416 HappyWarrior
SMOTI being SMOTI. Oh not to mention that polls consistently say that Clinton is much more popular than Trump in Europe. But go ahead Jim, tout that Trump is supported by people who started genocide.
SO THERE LIBTARDS!!!
re: #414 The Vicious Babushka
The Golgothan Shit Demon in Dogma
Oh easy. The poop scene in Back to the Future.
Baby Whiplash is not pleased with the Bannon/Conway hires.
3. Bannon Took At Least One Major Breitbart Investor For A Serious Ride. One of the main investors in Breitbart News is Robert Mercer. The Mercer family put millions of dollars into a Ted Cruz super PAC during this election cycle, even as Bannon manipulated Breitbart News into a Cruz-bashing Trump propaganda outlet. The spokesperson for the Mercer family was Kellyanne Conway, who has now been installed as Trump’s campaign manager. I have been reliably informed by sources associated with the pro-Cruz super PAC that for months, as Bannon was using Breitbart News to promote Trump, the Mercers were defending Bannon’s neutrality to other Cruz supporters worried about Breitbart’s dishonest coverage about Cruz.
….
5. Under Bannon’s Leadership, Breitbart Openly Embraced The White Supremacist Alt-Right. Andrew Breitbart despised racism. Truly despised it. He used to brag regularly about helping to integrate his fraternity at Tulane University. He insisted that racial stories be treated with special care to avoid even the whiff of racism. With Bannon embracing Trump, all that changed. Now Breitbart has become the alt-right go-to website, with Yiannopoulos pushing white ethno-nationalism as a legitimate response to political correctness, and the comment section turning into a cesspool for white supremacist mememakers.
Probably still going to vote for Trump, though.
re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth
O_o
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This nation elected a man who was mostly confined to a wheelchair and had to use leg braces to speak at podiums. Elected a general who nearly dropped dead from a heart attack. The GOP’s patron saint is a man we later found out had been suffering from the onset of Alzheimer’s in the last years of his presidency and they tried to sell us two candidates who had various medical maladies or handicaps due to war service.
But please, tell us again how the first woman candidate possibly being unsteady on her feet or resting on pillows is enough to disqualify her from public office.
Yegods.
I hate Long Island KKK (they’re out there, though I doubt they’ve got the numbers they claim).
re: #420 Targetpractice
Next up, they’ll delve into her menopause and claim that she’s irrational or worse.
Now imagine a younger female candidate for president who these same assholes would claim is tired regularly due to her period, or is too emotionally unstable, etc.
These misogynists will never tire of finding reasons to hate on successful women. They’re flinging every excuse in the book at Clinton because they can’t find any reason to support Trump on his own credentials.
Greta, that’s not how it works…
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re: #413 The Vicious Babushka
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I have a Serbian friend who is… not fond of Hillary Clinton. She recognizes that Serbia committed war crimes; she recognizes that Trump is a terrible choice; she agrees that Hillary will be a good president. But the Clintons to her are associated with the time of being driven from her home in Bosnia, and the bombing of Serbia itself. Hillary Clinton took a special interest in Bosnian refugees and victims and that’s very hard to emotionally get over.
And again, my friend is very aware that what Serbia did was wrong, and she even acted as a translator for UN peacekeepers. I suspect that a lot of Serbians have much more deep dislike of Hillary.
re: #420 Targetpractice
This nation elected a man who was mostly confined to a wheelchair and had to use leg braces to speak at podiums. Elected a general who nearly dropped dead from a heart attack. The GOP’s patron saint is a man we later found out had been suffering from the onset of Alzheimer’s in the last years of his presidency and they tried to sell us two candidates who had various medical maladies or handicaps due to war service.
But please, tell us again how the first woman candidate possibly being unsteady on her feet or resting on pillows is enough to disqualify her from public office.
Yegods.
snopes.com
There’s also this. I have a defibrillator. I’m also pretty damn healthy too.
re: #422 Nyet
#WhatsYourFavoriteShittyMovieScene
Between Pulp Fiction’s scene with Walken, and Tim Robbins emerging from the sewer:
re: #420 Targetpractice
This nation elected a man who was mostly confined to a wheelchair and had to use leg braces to speak at podiums. Elected a general who nearly dropped dead from a heart attack. The GOP’s patron saint is a man we later found out had been suffering from the onset of Alzheimer’s in the last years of his presidency and they tried to sell us two candidates who had various medical maladies or handicaps due to war service.
But please, tell us again how the first woman candidate possibly being unsteady on her feet or resting on pillows is enough to disqualify her from public office.
Yegods.
on a couch!
re: #425 BlackPearl
Maybe, but these thugs are not representative of Serbians, they’re ultranationalists, like your KKK.
re: #425 BlackPearl
I have a Serbian friend who is… not fond of Hillary Clinton. She recognizes that Serbia committed war crimes; she recognizes that Trump is a terrible choice; she agrees that Hillary will be a good president. But the Clintons to her are associated with the time of being driven from her home in Bosnia, and the bombing of Serbia itself. Hillary Clinton took a special interest in Bosnian refugees and victims and that’s very hard to emotionally get over.
And again, my friend is very aware that what Serbia did was wrong, and she even acted as a translator for UN peacekeepers. I suspect that a lot of Serbians have much more deep dislike of Hillary.
In my early years online, I knew someone whose parents were from Serbia. The issue was very emotional for her. I have roots in the Balkans myself and some family still there.
re: #427 lawhawk
#WhatsYourFavoriteShittyMovieScene
Between Pulp Fiction’s scene with Walken, and Tim Robbins emerging from the sewer:
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Kids hiding from the nazis in Schindler’s List.
re: #429 Nyet
Maybe, but these thugs are not representative of Serbians, they’re ultranationalists, like your KKK.
Yes, very important to point that out.
re: #429 Nyet
True, but I’m just saying that “Hillary is popular in Europe” is not the same as “Hillary is popular in Serbia”.
re: #404 HappyWarrior
Indeed. It’s like hey “They’re too stupid to know what’s good for them but they’re also easily bought off.” Not to mention that there are plenty of whites on public assistance too and plenty of thriving African-Americans. The GOP will never admit it but they lost the African-American vote because they decided to cater to bigotry and took for granted a bloc that had long been loyal to them even in the early years of the Depression and after Reconstruction.
The ugliest part is the mainstreaming of the ugly ‘white genocide’, ‘blacks are the real and only racists and want black supremacy’ bullshit that’s come to counter BLM, mixing with the already insulting Southern Strategy and ‘Dem Plantation’ bullshit. God help me how many people I keep reading that are fully convinced that reverse racism is the only racism left and BLM is like the KKK, Nazis, and Communists all combined in the sheer evil and hate they apparently represent.
re: #413 The Vicious Babushka
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Yet another case of Republicans out-sourcing our nut-jobs.
re: #436 Kryptik: Just Done With It.
The ugliest part is the mainstreaming of the ugly ‘white genocide’, ‘blacks are the real and only racists and want black supremacy’ bullshit that’s come to counter BLM, mixing with the already insulting Southern Strategy and ‘Dem Plantation’ bullshit. God help me how many people I keep reading that are fully convinced that reverse racism is the only racism left and BLM is like the KKK, Nazis, and Communists all combined in the sheer evil and hate they apparently represent.
I’ve had to deal with that shit from a friend no less. Of course, he also idiotically implied that the 2nd amendment was invented to protect blacks from the KKK. Also is fond of doing the “My ancestors didn’t own slaves so shut up about it” though he never has a word for Southern whites who still cry about Sherman. Hell I had a great conversation with my brother about this. We both talked about how the effects of slavery lasted well beyond the implementation of the 13th amendment.
There’s also something in Martian but I haven’t watched that movie yet.
this election is actually frightening us now
Donald Trump’s Russian Buddies Probably So Excited About Trump’s First Classified Intelligence Briefing!
If you are Russia, you probably have been getting really tired of waiting for Hillary Clinton to accidentally reply to your fake emails from “notrussiaLOL@yahoo.com” with all the US nuclear codes and secrets and whatnot. (Unless Russia hacked the NSA and already has them LOLOL!) So it must be exciting for the Kremlin that actual Republican nominee Donald Trump is getting his first intelligence briefing Wednesday (even though Trump says he doesn’t trust US intelligence agencies because they are weak and sad).
re: #440 Nyet
There’s also something in Martian but I haven’t watched that movie yet.
Well worth watching, especially if you are a geek or you want to understand how geeks think. The main character uses the shit from all of the astronauts to help fertilize Martian soil, which isn’t the greatest smelling thing.
Oh, and not to forget this.
#WhatsYourFavoriteShittyMovieScene
re: #443 Nyet
Oh, and not to forget this.
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I was watching the Little Rascals movie with my niece just a couple months ago oddly enough. I had totally forgotten that he had a cameo in it. Playing who else but a rich snob that thinks his shit didn’t stink. Fortunately there was a Mel Brooks cameo to cancel that out.
Report: Trump Chairman Manafort Helped ‘Lay the Groundwork’ for Russian Invasion of Crimea https://t.co/3ZWZev976K pic.twitter.com/Vf1bPA04iJ
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) August 17, 2016
re: #282 The Vicious Babushka
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Reminds me of the guy who ran a prophecy website and was utterly convinced, based on the many prophecies he’d received from various people, that John McCain was going to win over Obama. When that did not occur, the guy went into a snit and didn’t update the site for a few weeks afterward. (He had been doing daily updates prior to the election.)
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