Trump Lies Again! Peña Nieto Says He Told Trump Mexico Wouldn’t Pay for “The Wall”

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Today in Donald Trump’s press conference after meeting privately with Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto, Trump was asked by a reporter about his frequent forceful statements that Mexico was going to pay for the ridiculous gigantic border wall he says he’s going to build. At every rally for the past year Trump has made a big deal out of this claim, screaming to his audience, “WHO’S GONNA PAY FOR THE WALL?” and the audience screams back, “MEXICO!” Then everybody laughs and cheers as if this is brilliant and not mind-bogglingly idiotic.

But today when he was asked about this, Trump said he had not even discussed payment for the wall with Peña Nieto. Which is absurd enough on its face, and makes him look like a complete coward, an Internet Tough Guy without the guts to say it to Peña Nieto’s face.

However — the truth is apparently even more ridiculous and cowardly, because now Reuters is reporting that Peña Nieto told Trump in their private meeting Mexico would not pay for the wall!

A translation of Peña Nieto’s tweet:

At the beginning of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall.

And that means that Trump stood right there in that press conference and lied right to Peña Nieto’s face, and to the rest of the world as well, even though he had to know this was going to come out.

This is the Republican Party’s candidate for president of the United States, folks. It would be funny if it weren’t so disturbing.

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134 comments

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2016 • 3:54:30pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 3:55:52pm

The “wall” will cost $25 billion to build? Where did that come from?

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2016 • 3:57:01pm

Just had a chance to catch up. Looks like this Trump in Mexico gig is gonna be one of those deals where you get to judge how it went by who’s take you read or hear.

Oh by the way, are we still allowed to be critical of the media in America? Asking for a friend.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2016 • 3:57:12pm

I guess it’s possible Peña Nieto is lying — but this is exactly what he’s been saying all along, that Mexico will never pay for the wall.

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2016 • 3:58:15pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

The “wall” will cost $25 billion to build? Where did that come from?

That thing in Trump’s airplane seat.

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 3:58:16pm

We now know why Trump didn’t want his media entourage to follow him during the trip. If there exists any video whatsoever of the meeting, then Nieto has him by the balls.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 31, 2016 • 3:59:04pm

re: #3 ObserverArt

Just had a chance to catch up. Looks like this Trump in Mexico gig is gonna be one of those deals where you get to judge how it went by who’s take you read or hear.

Oh by the way, are we still allowed to be critical of the media in America? Asking for a friend.

Nope—if you do you’re like Nazis railing about the Lügenpresse.

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BlueGrl21  Aug 31, 2016 • 3:59:51pm

re: #1 Jenner7

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Don’t you just know his campaign staff is trying anything possible to lock him out of his own Twitter account after that statement? OUCH.

“Who has his phone? Who the f*ck HAS HIS PHONE?!?!”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:01:24pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:01:50pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

That thing in Trump’s airplane seat.

I must have missed that. I didn’t know he got that specific.

Is that for the 30 foot high wall or the 50 foot high wall?

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:03:26pm

re: #10 Skip Intro

I must have missed that. I didn’t know he got that specific.

Is that for the 30 foot high wall or the 50 foot high wall?

You’ll have to look up there* for an answer. I ain’t going.

*The place he pulls his numbers from

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:04:09pm
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makeitstop  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:04:45pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

The “wall” will cost $25 billion to build? Where did that come from?

I don’t remember where I read it, but a civil engineer gamed out the cost of materials, labor and infrastructure necessary to build the wall (remember, they’d have to actually build roads to remote areas to even get the materials on site), and he estimated $25 - 30 billion.

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:05:10pm

re: #1 Jenner7

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Shots Fired!

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KGxvi  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:06:16pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

The “wall” will cost $25 billion to build? Where did that come from?

Trump has said anything between $4b and $12b. Jon Oliver did some back of the envelope calculations that got to $25b to build, and an absurd amount to maintain (something like $3.5b per year).

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Border Wall (HBO)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:06:44pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Hillz said the other day at her rally unmasking Trump that the ones who will be paying for Trump’s wall is us, not Mexico.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:08:59pm

re: #7 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Nope—if you do you’re like Nazis railing about the Lügenpresse.

Awwwww…gee. I hate when that happens.

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:09:53pm

re: #13 makeitstop

I don’t remember where I read it, but a civil engineer gamed out the cost of materials, labor and infrastructure necessary to build the wall (remember, they’d have to actually build roads to remote areas to even get the materials on site), and he estimated $25 - 30 billion.

Hey, what’s a wall but a skyscraper laying on its side without plumbing or electricity? With Trump’s world class building and negotiating skills, he’ll get it done at a tiny fraction of that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:11:26pm

re: #13 makeitstop

I don’t remember where I read it, but a civil engineer gamed out the cost of materials, labor and infrastructure necessary to build the wall (remember, they’d have to actually build roads to remote areas to even get the materials on site), and he estimated $25 - 30 billion.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:12:15pm
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makeitstop  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:16:04pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

Clinton campaign updates statement “It turns out Trump didn’t just choke, he got beat in the room and lied about it”

I’ll give him 10 seconds before he’s completely off-script tonight. Maybe 10 seconds.

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Interesting Times  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:16:22pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hillz said the other day at her rally unmasking Trump that the ones who will be paying for Trump’s wall is us, not Mexico.

Which, according to the venerable Chuck Todd, means she’s stooping to his level in a race to the bottom -_-

By the way, did anyone hear a peep from the MSM about Hillary Clinton’s newly announced mental health care policy? Granted, your results may vary, but I googled it just now and the only big-name American MSM outlets that come up in the top results are USA Today and the Washington Post (and the Post, IIRC, was banned from trump events anyway). It seems the only time HRC’s statements get widespread coverage is when she either directly or indirectly talks about trump.

(I recall seeing, several months ago, a clip of an exasperated Marco Rubio making a point to this effect, i.e. that the only time he got significant media coverage was when he insulted trump’s hand size)

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:17:50pm

LOL Peňa Nieto giving Trump the evil eye

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:17:59pm

re: #21 makeitstop

I’ll give him 10 seconds before he’s completely off-script tonight. Maybe 10 seconds.

I imagine he’d like to skip the whole thing and spend some time with his shrink, Dr. Hannity.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:18:27pm

re: #22 Interesting Times

I think you mean Darth.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:18:35pm

These people are so fucking pitiful

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:18:56pm

re: #22 Interesting Times

Which, according to the venerable Chuck Todd, means she’s stooping to his level in a race to the bottom -_-

And also according to a lizard…

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:19:31pm

re: #21 makeitstop

I’ll give him 10 seconds before he’s completely off-script tonight. Maybe 10 seconds.

They’re upping the dosage on his sedatives, may have to switch to ketamine.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:19:54pm

So how long before Kellianne Conway quits?

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KGxvi  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:19:59pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea

I thought they were called “Freedom Fries”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:20:08pm

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

LOL Peňa Nieto giving Trump the evil eye

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EPN apparently understands English more than donald understands Spanish/Mexican…

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:20:39pm

re: #30 KGxvi

Why aren’t they called Trump fries?

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BlueGrl21  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:20:44pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

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Trolling like a boss.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:21:25pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

They’re upping the dosage on his sedatives, may have to switch to ketamine.

Maybe they should go in the other direction: pump him so full of speed no one can understand him.

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:21:41pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

Why aren’t they called Trump fries?

Negative effect on sales.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:21:41pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

Why aren’t they called Trump fries?

Serious FAIL

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:22:02pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:22:40pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

Why aren’t they called Trump fries?

They knew Trump would charge them for using his name.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:23:08pm

That’s why they’re not selling Trump Bites.

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b.d.  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:24:07pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

Why aren’t they called Trump fries?

They couldn’t come to terms on licensing fees.

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:25:27pm

lol

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:26:44pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:26:56pm

re: #41 Jenner7

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lol

There are witnesses.

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:27:03pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

Negative effect on sales.

re: #36 Stanley Sea

Serious FAIL

Dead tie!

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:27:26pm

NY Daily News commits early

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:27:52pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

Dead tie!

I’ve had Gabe’s feed open all day!

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:28:02pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:29:10pm

re: #41 Jenner7

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lol

Translation: “Look, we’re trying to find a spin that makes us look good, call back later.”

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:29:16pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:30:04pm

re: #29 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

So how long before Kellianne Conway quits?

When the checks get rubbery.

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:30:29pm

re: #47 lawhawk

Trump doesn’t care. Nieto’s a Mexican, and we know all about what they are. thanks to Trump.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:30:32pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:31:54pm

I would think a master negotiator like Trump would know that you don’t enter into negotiations by making concessions to other side before they’ve even made their offer. If you’re not going to bring up who pays for the wall in the first meeting, then the other side’s going to assume it’s not an issue that needs to be addressed. If you start talking a wall without talking funding, expecting to bring up funding once you’ve got an agreement to build the wall, then the other side’s going to laugh in your face.

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:32:00pm

re: #29 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

So how long before Kellianne Conway quits?

That implies she has ethics. Check out who she’s worked for in the past to see why she won’t (as long as she gets paid).

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prairiefire  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:32:40pm

re: #54 Skip Intro

That implies she has ethics. Check out who she’s worked for in the past to see why she won’t (as long as she gets paid).

She’s as slippery as a bar of soap!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:32:54pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

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Why, it’s almost like he has no scruples about lying!

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:33:06pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:33:15pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Article from last year. He does this all the time.

Lie.

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nines09  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:33:34pm

I’ll wait for the press to weigh in on this and tell me exactly what happened. Yeah. I’m drunk.

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:34:21pm

The Mothers of Invention - It Can’t Happen Here

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:35:18pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:35:29pm

re: #41 Jenner7

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lol

I see they are adding fabric softener to the spin cycle.

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:35:35pm

“So, we’re agreed on the building of a wall.”

“Yeah, now I want you guys to pay for it all, bottom to top.”

“Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Don.”

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:36:02pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

The “wall” will cost $25 billion to build? Where did that come from?

Maybe this Washington Post “fact checker” article from February:

washingtonpost.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:37:05pm

The hilarious bit is they’re now suddenly worried about what’s “inappropriate.” Having a press conference with a foreign head of state when the election still has over two months to run is pretty high up there on the “inappropriate” scale.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:38:06pm

Tonight at Trump’s rally:

TRUMP: THE WALL JUST GOT 100’ HIGHER!

CROWD: *GOES WILD*

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:38:39pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

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I think their new talking point is to seize remittances.

Which will be unconstitutional.

But the Trump Cult dgaf

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nines09  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:39:03pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

” You don’t need no freaking roads!” NO! “You don’t need no freaking bridges!” NO! “You don’t need no healthcare!” NO! “YOU need a WALL! A BIG WALL! THAT YOU PAY FOR!”

Crowd goes wild, orgasmic, spin cycle, shake and bake. Hammer Time.

Then in the parking lot a while later….”Did he say…”

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:44:41pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:45:39pm

Since Nieto basically just called Trump a liar, Trump will have to get even.

I’m guessing that tonight he’ll say that yeah, they did talk about the wall and
Mexico’s going to pay for it. He’ll claim that he didn’t say that at the time to save face for the Mexican pres, but since he’s viciously attacked Trump he’s going to stop being so nice.

Or something like that. If he doesn’t come up with that, Fox “News” will do it for him.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:46:01pm

Melt down in the green room

Melt down in the green room

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:46:44pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

Cue the Trump Downfall vids.

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TedStriker  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:48:33pm

re: #37 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Rude One:

Trump Wusses Out in Mexico and You Have No God

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Dave In Austin  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:54:33pm
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William Lewis  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:56:27pm

re: #74 Dave In Austin

Gaaa!!

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I think he let the magic smoke out of that one and I’ll bet the tubes aren’t any happier…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:57:14pm

Watching Fox 10 Phoenix live feed - they’re just unashamedly fawning over Trump so much it’s making me nauseous.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:58:00pm

re: #75 William Lewis

I think he let the magic smoke out of that one and I’ll bet the tubes aren’t any happier…

What you DON’T want to see coming out of the inputs of your 1959 Fender High Power Twin.

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:58:29pm

It’s a little frightening to think how well Trump would be doing if he didn’t always piss all over himself.

The media loved him in Mexico. So presidential.

Then it turns out, like always, that he’s lying about something big.

Media bubble deflates again, but always with hope for the next time when can say “we’ve got a real horse race here, Wolf!”

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Mike Lamb  Aug 31, 2016 • 4:58:35pm

I suppose it’s possible that Trump’s statement that paying for the wall wasn’t discussed is technically true. When someone tells you to immediately go fuck yourself, there really isn’t much discussion…

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nines09  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:00:18pm

re: #74 Dave In Austin

That’s a Horror Flick.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:01:47pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:02:28pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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I’m surprised he hasn’t fired off yet. Ailes must have smashed his iPhone with a sledgehammer.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:03:19pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I guess it’s possible Peña Nieto is lying — but this is exactly what he’s been saying all along, that Mexico will never pay for the wall.

Can’t imagine he would’ve invited Trump to Mexico if he wasn’t going to tell him Mexico would not pay for the wall.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:04:19pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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He’s freaking out inside, but has to handle it & be more Presidential. hahahhahahhahahha. Poor Jared.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:05:22pm

Heya Art!
I know you are just shocked. :D

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:05:41pm

Baby Whiplash ASKS A QUESTION

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:05:44pm

The “serious” wingnuts I’m watching now are a hoot. The same people who have spent the last 8 years pointing and laughing any time the President got “out-maneuvered” by a foreign leader are now trying to argue that Trump came out of this looking good.

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:07:38pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash ASKS A QUESTION

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So wingnuts spend hours building up Nieto for the purpose of presenting Trump’s meeting as an awesome accomplishment…and then EPN calls Trump a liar, so out come the long knives.

Who could have seen that coming?//////

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:08:04pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash ASKS A QUESTION

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Just admit you’re voting for Trump and crawl back to your old job at Breitbart.

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:10:12pm

Good grief.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:10:18pm

imho it’s ridiculous to even discuss the fucking wall

we’re patiently humoring the childish fantasies of 50 million of our most immature and deluded fellow citizens

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:10:46pm

Baby Whiplash wants to board the Trump Train and the alt-right tells him GET IN THE CATTLE CAR.

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:11:03pm

re: #90 Jenner7

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Good grief.

It’s nice that Breitbart has dropped all pretense of not being the Trump campaign’s propaganda arm.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:12:17pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

Heya Art!
I know you are just shocked. :D

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I can feel it in my creakin’ bones.

I was looking at some long term forecasts and there were some real high 80s and a couple 90s in mid September

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:13:19pm

HA HA LIBTARDS HILLARY IS ONLY AHEAD BY 4.6 IN THE POLLS

On this date in 2012 Obama was ahead of Romney by 0.7.

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:14:05pm

re: #90 Jenner7

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Good grief.

Isn’t that the evil thing the baggers call “deficit spending”?

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Mike Lamb  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:14:39pm

re: #90 Jenner7

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Good grief.

The sub-head/caption is pretty great. Forget shooting just anyone on 5th Avenue—Trump could shoot a Breitbart reporter, and the guy who was shot would still vote for Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:16:22pm

It is now 11 hours since Trump’s last tweet

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:17:22pm

re: #90 Jenner7

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Good grief.

Wait a sec - That doesn’t make any sense.

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:18:41pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

That was also a lie.

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:18:42pm

haha.

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EPR-radar  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:19:00pm

re: #91 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

imho it’s ridiculous to even discuss the fucking wall

we’re patiently humoring the childish fantasies of 50 million of our most immature and deluded fellow citizens

The foundation of the modern Republican is precisely these childish fantasies of the immature, deluded and hateful.

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Brian J.  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:19:30pm

re: #99 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Wait a sec - That doesn’t make any sense.

Everything’s in place except a Congress that will build the wall and the money to build it. “If we had ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had eggs.”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:19:47pm

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

HA HA LIBTARDS HILLARY IS ONLY AHEAD BY 4.6 IN THE POLLS

On this date in 2012 Obama was ahead of Romney by 0.7.

rcp has put wisconsin back in the toss up category cuz hillary is only ahead by an avg of 5.3 there

Razor Thin Margin!!!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:19:49pm

OT: I’m one of the lucky’s. My kit plays fetch with her pinky mouse. Every day at this time. We are on such a schedule.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:20:00pm

re: #101 Jenner7

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haha.

His hair is just so ridiculous and he thinks it looks great.

smh…

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:20:47pm

If you don’t have an agreement for payment, you don’t have an agreement.

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Brian J.  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:23:22pm

re: #104 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

rcp has put wisconsin back in the toss up category cuz hillary is only ahead by an avg of 5.3 there

Razor Thin Margin!!!

I looked through the 2012 RCP map a while back, and I found these conclusions:

Twelve states were in the Tossup category on Election Day. Obama carried 11, with North Carolina the only exception.

Also, Obama outperformed his RCP polling average in every tossup state. In fact, he outperformed his average (when there enough data points to have in average) in every state he was favored to win and in Arizona (the only Leans Romney state). Obama underperformed only in states where he was already expected to lose badly, and not all of those.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:24:07pm

Damn it Michael, if Hillary gave a speech like this one you would be asking if she has brain damage

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A Cranky One  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:24:20pm

re: #74 Dave In Austin

Gaaa!!

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I’d fix it for him. For free. But he’d need to test it for 2 hours in front of me. You know, to make sure it’s working right.

Think he’d go for that?

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Brian J.  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:27:01pm

re: #107 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

If you don’t have an agreement for payment, you don’t have an agreement.

And it must be in writing, unless the wall is supposed to cost less than $500 or not be built on land, or meets a few other even less likely conditions.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:27:24pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

His hair is just so ridiculous and he thinks it looks great.

smh…

It’s white again. The orange only lasts 3 days now.

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:27:33pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:27:57pm

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

Damn it Michael, if Hillary gave a speech like this one you would be asking if she has brain damage

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Not surprising, considering he had this to say when the story broke last night:

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:28:23pm

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

Damn it Michael, if Hillary gave a speech like this one you would be asking if she has brain damage

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So the media’s buying Katrina Pierson’s line that Trump’s saying the same thing but with different words.

Fools, the whole lot of them.

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:28:57pm

re: #113 Jenner7

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Like I said downstairs, Trump better hope that there’s no video of this meeting.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:29:19pm

re: #103 Brian J.

Everything’s in place except a Congress that will build the wall and the money to build it. “If we had ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had eggs.”

i envision trump in office: “well, it doesnt make sense to do the mass deportation until the wall is built. and we have to wait until we get mexico to agree to pay for the wall before we start to build it. and i asked congress to put in a tough vetting process to guard against terrorism but they told me obama had already done that. and it turns out we cant really bomb isis any more than obama was bombing it. and as for putting in taxes and tariffs to keep multinational corporations from exporting any more jobs, well it turns out the corporations own all the republican congress people so we cant do that until trump people have primaried them out of office…

so im gonna play golf”

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:30:09pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:31:21pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

OT: I’m one of the lucky’s. My kit plays fetch with her pinky mouse. Every day at this time. We are on such a schedule.

Here is Chica

She sat like this for a while, then pounced.

guarding Pinky

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:32:15pm

re: #78 Skip Intro

It’s a little frightening to think how well Trump would be doing if he didn’t always piss all over himself.

The media loved him in Mexico. So presidential.

Then it turns out, like always, that he’s lying about something big.

Media bubble deflates again, but always with hope for the next time when can say “we’ve got a real horse race here, Wolf!”

charlie brown / football ///eternal hope - optimism

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:33:53pm

I need a drink.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:34:07pm
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dangerman  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:37:06pm

re: #113 Jenner7

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the president…of a foreign country… feels the need to do this!

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:37:19pm

re: #103 Brian J.

Everything’s in place except a Congress that will build the wall and the money to build it. “If we had ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had eggs.”

Old Yiddish saying: “If my grandma had wheels, she’d be a wagon.”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:37:29pm

clarificaciòn

Al inicio de la conversación con Donald Trump dejé claro que México no pagará por su pinche chingada muro.

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EPR-radar  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:38:01pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

“Trumpism shorn of most offensive elements but faithful to its essential message” is an oxymoron of the highest order.

The essential message of Trumpism is to be offensive.

This Michael Barbero guy is a complete and total idiot. He’d likely drown if someone said “look up” to him while it was raining. Too stupid to empty water out of a boot, even with step by step instructions stapled to the sole of the boot. Etc. Etc.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:38:05pm

re: #122 FormerDirtDart

We do know who’s NOT paying for it, Mexico.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:38:30pm

so many updings to give tonight

well done one and all

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:42:46pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

I need a drink.

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Great, post-modern politics. Yegods.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:50:18pm

re: #123 dangerman

the president…of a foreign country… feels the need to do this!

That is just how good Trump is. He has his opponent off his game and making excuses!

/

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TedStriker  Aug 31, 2016 • 5:52:51pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

I’m surprised he hasn’t fired off yet. Ailes must have smashed his iPhone with a sledgehammer.

Maybe they hit him with a tranq gun.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 31, 2016 • 6:15:01pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

Hey, what’s a wall but a skyscraper laying on its side without plumbing or electricity? With Trump’s world class building and negotiating skills, he’ll get it done at a tiny fraction of that.

One problem with adapting Trump’s usual methods: The government can’t skip out on its bills.

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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 31, 2016 • 6:34:29pm

re: #110 A Cranky One

I volunteer to supervise.

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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 31, 2016 • 6:45:20pm

re: #37 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Rude One:


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