Video: Soledad O'Brien Calls Out the Media for Normalizing Trump's White Supremacist Ties

Video: Soledad O’Brien Calls Out the Media for Normalizing Trump’s White Supremacist Ties

Straight talk about Trump’s toxic influence on US politics

PoliticsSeptember 2016 • Views: 52,254

Soledad O’Brien has been missed, and in this segment of Brian Stelter’s Reliable Sources CNN show, she lays down some serious truth about the media’s “normalization” of the awful racist components of the Donald Trump campaign, calling out the “contortions” that create a deceptive “both sides are equal” narrative.

CNN has been one of the main purveyors of this false equivalence, and it’s good to see at least a small attempt at real balance for a change. But the fact is, most of CNN’s day-to-day coverage remains disturbingly empty of this context.

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412 comments

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 7:24:27pm

About time someone committed an Act Of Journalism and called them out.

Patricia Kayden Sep 4, 2016 • 7:28:35pm

It’s damn scary how Trump has been normalized despite his White Supremacist supporters (including those running his campaign like Bannon) and his blatantly racist comments. Trump began his Presidential campaign by calling Mexicsns rapists. He encouraged rally attendees to physically assault protesters. We’re talking about a man who was sued by Nixon’s DOJ for refusing to rent to Black people.

Why is the media acting as if Trump is some regular GOP candidate like McCain or Romney? Absolutely infuriating. Good on O’Brien for saying the obvious and calling out the media.

Pawn of the Oppressor Sep 4, 2016 • 7:30:02pm

re: #1 William Lewis

About time someone committed an Act Of Journalism and called them out.

IN TRUMP FUTURE, THIS IS CRIME. JOURNALIST SENT TO FARM SNOW IN SPECIAL CAMP.

Charles Johnson Sep 4, 2016 • 7:30:26pm

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William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 7:34:01pm

re: #3 Pawn of the Oppressor

IN TRUMP FUTURE, THIS IS CRIME. JOURNALIST SENT TO FARM SNOW IN SPECIAL CAMP.

Yes, I know. But it is, seriously, one of the greatest fears I have of Trump. Mainstream journalism is bad enough but with the fear of being killed/imprisoned? We’d have no accurate information from the inside. I’m reminded of why even Pro-Nazi people talked about listening to the BBC on shortwave so they would know what was _really_ happening.

Barefoot Grin Sep 4, 2016 • 7:34:52pm

I caught a bit of this by clicking on Mediaite (I have no excuses; I know what a shitshow I am in for). Of course the commentariat wavered between “she’s the real racist” and “she wasn’t a real journalist and that’s why she was canned at CNN.” I’m really glad you are standing up for her, CJ. This matters.

Thanos Sep 4, 2016 • 7:35:20pm

Low expectations creates a low bar.

The Vicious Babushka Sep 4, 2016 • 7:36:23pm

SMOTI SHOWS US WHY HE IS THE SMOTI
Posts pictures of 3 different vehicles claiming they are “Hillary’s wheelchair car”

Photos: Poor Tired Hillary Has Wheelchair Lift on Her Special Van https://t.co/dhJJISqRoX via @gatewaypundit

— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) September 5, 2016

#Hillaryswheelchair…… Lift pic.twitter.com/gXRwtz0WJZ

— Tonado (@anthonycasey2) September 4, 2016

Thanos Sep 4, 2016 • 7:41:16pm

Charles Blow gets this right, he’s one who calls out the racism of Trump and his followers.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 7:41:20pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI SHOWS US WHY HE IS THE SMOTI
Posts pictures of 3 different vehicles claiming they are “Hillary’s wheelchair car”

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Hoft’s eyesight going bad? Maybe he needs some Rick Perry IQ Improvement Spectacles (tm) <—- that’s a document classification - top moran.

Patricia Kayden Sep 4, 2016 • 7:43:49pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI SHOWS US WHY HE IS THE SMOTI
Posts pictures of 3 different vehicles claiming they are “Hillary’s wheelchair car”

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We’ve had at least one President in a wheelchair so I really don’t understand this kind of attack.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 7:45:37pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

We’ve had at least one President in a wheelchair so I really don’t understand this kind of attack.

It’s Hillary Clinton.

Note the very first Republican president (the one they like to claim they are the party of) is thought to have had clinical depression.

The Vicious Babushka Sep 4, 2016 • 7:46:12pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

We’ve had at least one President in a wheelchair so I really don’t understand this kind of attack.

I ride in a wheelchair through airport terminals and I have a blue tag for my car, and I am younger than Hillary. However Hillary is not disabled.

retired cynic Sep 4, 2016 • 7:46:51pm

re: #12 Anymouse

It’s Hillary Clinton.

Note the very first Republican president (the one they like to claim they are the party of) is thought to have had clinical depression.

I’d have been depressed, too!

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 7:47:40pm

re: #14 retired cynic

I’d have been depressed, too!

I live in a depression (a river valley)

calochortus Sep 4, 2016 • 7:48:17pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

We’ve had at least one President in a wheelchair so I really don’t understand this kind of attack.

The wheelchair is supposed to show that she is so ill she can barely get around, whereas simply being paralyzed wouldn’t affect one’s ability to govern. Or something like that.

retired cynic Sep 4, 2016 • 7:50:17pm

re: #15 Anymouse

I live in a depression (a river valley)

THAT’s my problem!

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 4, 2016 • 7:51:33pm

Jesus. Those are literally 3 completely different vehicles. Next he’ll be showing us a pic of the old “Square Batmobile” from Ironside.

Hillary attends SF Fundraiser!

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 7:52:10pm

re: #16 calochortus

The wheelchair is supposed to show that she is so ill she can barely get around, whereas simply being paralyzed wouldn’t affect one’s ability to govern. Or something like that.

Someone went on about “epilepsy” here. I straightened them out. This nonsense is spreading misinformation on epilepsy, which doesn’t help about two million of us.

Chief Justice John Roberts has epilepsy. I wish he would speak on the subject, as a person in his position would dispel a lot of rumour and misinformation about the disorder. As a village trustee I don’t quite have the reach of a Supreme Court justice.

gwangung Sep 4, 2016 • 7:53:23pm

re: #19 Anymouse

Someone went on about “epilepsy” here. I straightened them out. This nonsense is spreading misinformation on epilepsy, which doesn’t help about two million of us.

Chief Justice John Roberts has epilepsy. I wish he would speak on the subject, as a person in his position would dispel a lot of rumour and misinformation about the disorder. As a village trustee I don’t quite have the reach of a Supreme Court justice.

Unfortunately, that partisan hack wouldn’t do a thing to help a non-Republican.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 7:55:17pm

re: #20 gwangung

Unfortunately, that partisan hack wouldn’t do a thing to help a non-Republican.

I’m not speaking of partisan politics here; I presume a similar percentage of Republicans have epilepsy to Democrats.

I would like him to stand up to the misconceptions of epilepsy, not politicians.

BlueSpotinAL Sep 4, 2016 • 7:58:29pm

re: #19 Anymouse

Someone went on about “epilepsy” here. I straightened them out. This nonsense is spreading misinformation on epilepsy, which doesn’t help about two million of us.

Chief Justice John Roberts has epilepsy. I wish he would speak on the subject, as a person in his position would dispel a lot of rumour and misinformation about the disorder. As a village trustee I don’t quite have the reach of a Supreme Court justice.

Careful what you ask for - Roberts may claim epilepsy is a thing of the past.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 7:59:49pm

re: #22 BlueSpotinAL

Careful what you ask for - Roberts may claim epilepsy is a thing of the past.

Well, I want special treatment and representation for my minority. /s After all, every epileptic in my village is on the town board. /s

calochortus Sep 4, 2016 • 8:04:53pm

Some ~~years~~ decades ago I looked up epilepsy in what was an older encyclopedia even at the time (1953 edition I think.) They said that epileptics generally shouldn’t marry. Imagine that. We’ve come a long way.

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 8:08:04pm

re: #20 gwangung

Unfortunately, that partisan hack wouldn’t do a thing to help a non-Republican.

That is why I despise that asshat. He is, frankly, the biggest disgrace on the current court and when you consider Thomas, that’s saying something. Much more intelligent but much less honorable and given Thomas’ attempts to pull the ladder up behind him, I really consider Roberts the single most despicable excuse for a human being to serve on the court in the last century.

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 8:08:32pm

re: #22 BlueSpotinAL

Careful what you ask for - Roberts may claim epilepsy is a thing of the past.

Ouch. True but still…

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 8:08:57pm

re: #24 calochortus

Some ~~years~~ decades ago I looked up epilepsy in what was an older encyclopedia even at the time (1953 edition I think.) They said that epileptics generally shouldn’t marry. Imagine that. We’ve come a long way.

There are plenty of Christians, eugenicists, and others who believe that today. Plenty of people also believe we are demon-possessed.

eugenicsarchive.ca! (the exclamation point has to be in the URL to work)

Twelve US states sterilised epileptics. Epileptics were classified as “feebleminded” (but for Justice Roberts, it’s apparently ok if you’re a Republican).

My home state (Michigan) stopped sterilising people three years after I was born.

uvm.edu

In 1929, the act was expanded to include, in addition to the previously included groups, the “insane and epileptic persons, …, moral degenerates, and sexual perverts likely to become a menace to society or wards of the state” (see Hodges, “Dealing with Degeneracy,” p. 141; Paul, p. 375).

calochortus Sep 4, 2016 • 8:12:58pm

re: #27 Anymouse

There are plenty of Christians, eugenicists, and others who believe that today. Plenty of people also believe we are demon-possessed.

eugenicsarchive.ca!

Twelve US states sterilised epileptics. Epileptics were classified as “feebleminded” (but for Justice Roberts, it’s apparently ok if you’re a Republican).

My home state (Michigan) stopped sterilising people three years after I was born.

Mr. C. had seizures during a stressful time at work and was on medication for a number of years, but he was weaned off the meds some years ago and has been fine since. We’re both pleased about that.

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 8:14:23pm

re: #27 Anymouse

There are plenty of Christians, eugenicists, and others who believe that today. Plenty of people also believe we are demon-possessed.

eugenicsarchive.ca!

Twelve US states sterilised epileptics. Epileptics were classified as “feebleminded” (but for Justice Roberts, it’s apparently ok if you’re a Republican).

My home state (Michigan) stopped sterilising people three years after I was born.

uvm.edu

Grr… I despise the shit done in the name of a perversion of what I believe. So true of so many other faiths too but still it pisses me off. That whole eugenics error was even more despicable than many

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 8:17:03pm

re: #28 calochortus

Mr. C. had seizures during a stressful time at work and was on medication for a number of years, but he was weaned off the meds some years ago and has been fine since. We’re both pleased about that.

Good for him. Regrettably I will be on medication (Phenobarbital) for the rest of my life.

Just waiting for some company to come along and buy up the rights then start charging $10 a tablet.

re: #29 William Lewis

Grr… I despise the shit done in the name of a perversion of what I believe. So true of so many other faiths too but still it pisses me off. That whole eugenics error was even more despicable than many

And such groups still exist today. (Eugenics is also a thin cover for racism.)

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 8:19:03pm

Pro-life thinking also went into eugenics:

In Michigan and elsewhere, the proponents of eugenics were concerned with the well-being of the “millions unborn.” They thought of eugenics as the tool with which to create a race of strong, healthy individuals by weeding out the “unfit.” When the U.S. Supreme Court case Buck v. Bell set precedence for more lenient sterilization justifications, Michigan’s Supreme Court in turn reinterpreted its sterilization policy as an extension of its compulsory vaccination law, which precipitated an [sic] massive increase in sterilizations (Paul, p. 373).

Frankie Five Angels Sep 4, 2016 • 8:20:41pm

Hmmmmm, isn’t it possible that the van Hillary travels in is a loaner from the government and is REQUIRED TO HAVE THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESS?

calochortus Sep 4, 2016 • 8:21:30pm

re: #30 Anymouse

Good for him. Regrettably I will be on medication (Phenobarbital) for the rest of my life.

Just waiting for some company to come along and buy up the rights then start charging $10 a tablet.

And such groups still exist today. (Eugenics is also a thin cover for racism.)

Sorry to hear that-but I gather it works for you, so that’s good.

Eugenics might theoretically make some sense if we really understood how everything actually worked, but the more we dig into it, the more complicated it all gets.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 8:23:51pm

re: #33 calochortus

Sorry to hear that-but I gather it works for you, so that’s good.

Eugenics might theoretically make some sense if we really understood how everything actually worked, but the more we dig into it, the more complicated it all gets.

Even if it were shown there is a specific genetic component to epilepsy, eugenicists make no exception to epilepsy from birth, epilepsy which appears later in life, and epilepsy caused by diseases or injury.

calochortus Sep 4, 2016 • 8:25:10pm

re: #34 Anymouse

Even if it were shown there is a specific genetic component to epilepsy, eugenicists make no exception to epilepsy from birth, epilepsy which appears later in life, and epilepsy caused by diseases or injury.

Which is why eugenics as we know it is pseudoscience at its finest.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 4, 2016 • 8:27:27pm

Trump Announces Outreach And Career Development Program For Black Youth In Danger Of Throwing Away Their Life In Gangs

he’ll arrest them

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 8:29:41pm

re: #31 Anymouse

Forced birth =/= pro life.

But then I think of Genesis 2:7 and piss off as many of those fake Pro-life assholes as I can. Not sure if it’s true, if heaven is real perhaps I can as God when life begins but in the meantime, I’ll just simply believe what I believe. God knows all the rest that matters.

I remember when my in laws celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary and some of their relations tried to talk up the prolife position to the catholic clergy that were there and got smacked down, hard, over their support of the death penalty.

I don’t agree with Rome on much at all but at least they are consistent regarding that whole pro life thing given they care about both ends of life unlike the scum fundies here in protestant America.

Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Sep 4, 2016 • 8:30:13pm

re: #32 Frankie Five Angels

Hmmmmm, isn’t it possible that the van Hillary travels in is a loaner from the government and is REQUIRED TO HAVE THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESS?

It’s not a lift, though. It’s not as stout or well attached as the one in the other photo. If I had to guess, I’d say a security guy can sit in what appears to be a backward facing seat there, and that’s some of his gear.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 4, 2016 • 8:34:36pm

re: #37 William Lewis

scum fundies

i call band name!

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 8:35:58pm

re: #39 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i call band name!

Go for it. Mine, if I ever get a chance, will be “The Penguin Air Force” for purely family reasons.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 8:37:35pm

re: #37 William Lewis

Forced birth =/= pro life.

But then I think of Genesis 2:7 and piss off as many of those fake Pro-life assholes as I can. Not sure if it’s true, if heaven is real perhaps I can as God when life begins but in the meantime, I’ll just simply believe what I believe. God knows all the rest that matters.

I remember when my in laws celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary and some of their relations tried to talk up the prolife position to the catholic clergy that were there and got smacked down, hard, over their support of the death penalty.

I don’t agree with Rome on much at all but at least they are consistent regarding that whole pro life thing given they care about both ends of life unlike the scum fundies here in protestant America.

Our so-called pro-life governor Pete Ricketts (R) funded out of his own pocket a referendum to re-impose the death penalty in Nebraska after it was repealed.

I was in a flame war over at Daily Kos some time ago with numerous people after I posted a diary there on encouraging my Republican neighbours to vote. Most of the people in my town are against the death penalty. That referendum will be on this year’s ballot.

I got a bunch of purity “leftier-than-thou” nonsense. No argument would satisfy them; not the fact of that referendum, that I am an elected trustee and it is not my place to discourage people from voting, none of it.

The last thing the Democratic Party needs is a moonbat version of the Teahadists.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 4, 2016 • 8:38:40pm

re: #38 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

It’s not a lift, though. It’s not as stout or well attached as the one in the other photo. If I had to guess, I’d say a security guy can sit in what appears to be a backward facing seat there, and that’s some of his gear.

Something like this?

Hey! Look at that guy in the wheelchair lift!

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 8:40:12pm

re: #41 Anymouse

We have far too many Teahadi equivalents in our ranks.

I bend my knee in thanksgiving to what you have done, sir. Thank you.

Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Sep 4, 2016 • 8:41:12pm

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

Something like this?

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Something like.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 8:43:57pm

re: #43 William Lewis

We have far too many Teahadi equivalents in our ranks.

I bend my knee in thanksgiving to what you have done, sir. Thank you.

Just doing part of the job I was elected to do, and the Constitution I affirmed I would uphold.

There are a lot of people in my town uneasy about the prospect of Donald Trump on the top of the ticket for the Republican Party. They also will not vote for Hillary Clinton, and many have said they would simply not vote at all.

I have been pointing out that one does not have to vote for President and can still vote for other candidates and referenda.

More on the Michigan link above:

In 1893 the Michigan Home for the Feebleminded and Epileptic was established, later known as the Michigan Home and Training School, Lapeer State Home and Training School, and the Oakdale Center for Developmental Disabilities. It was the place where the majority of sterilizations appear to have occurred, at least until 1937, and the majority of them on women (Hodges, “Euthenics, eugenics,” p. 31). It received children whose families could not longer care for their children during the Great Depression. The city of Lapeer’s largest business, it once employed 1060 people. This institution closed down for good in 1992 and is in the process of being fully demolished (Sturm; Michigan Department of Environmental Quality; see also Edwards).
In 2000, ABC investigated sterilization at the institution in Lapeer. In a 20/20 segment they interviewed Ted and Fred Aslin, two men who, along with 5 of their siblings, were institutionalized following the death of their father. Fred was determined to be a “feeble-minded moron” and “mentally defective” by his doctors, and was sterilized at age 18 in 1934. His brother Ted, his mother and 3 of his other siblings were also sterilized (Berman). The ABC crew also investigated the court papers at the Lapeer courthouse pertaining to sterilization cases. The testimonies of doctors were very uniform, and reasons for sterilization ranged from frequent masturbation, sexual deviancy, being an only child or one’s mother having had frequent miscarriages.

calochortus Sep 4, 2016 • 8:45:03pm

I’m going to say good night. Hasta mañana, Lizards.

retired cynic Sep 4, 2016 • 8:45:51pm

re: #45 Anymouse

GAH! That corresponds with what I have read elsewhere, but even worse, and on a larger scale. Eleventy!

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 8:46:10pm

re: #46 calochortus

I’m going to say good night. Hasta mañana, Lizards.

May taco trucks infest your dreams on every corner.

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 8:48:48pm

re: #45 Anymouse

Just doing part of the job I was elected to do, and the Constitution I affirmed I would uphold.

Understood. As an Army enlisted man, I took the same oath you did and neither of us was ever in the Oath Breakers so we both understand what we mean by that. And no, skin color has nothing to fucking do with it.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 4, 2016 • 8:51:58pm

re: #44 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

Something like.

Note also that to the right of the seat in the news photo, there’s what looks to be a very similar gun to what the agent is holding in my picture

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 8:52:30pm

re: #49 William Lewis

Understood. As an Army enlisted man, I took the same oath you did and neither of us was ever in the Oath Breakers so we both understand what we mean by that. And no, skin color has nothing to fucking do with it.

I’ve spent most of my adult life affirming either the enlistment oath or its equivalent in my current position.

Richard Mack and his merry band of oath-twisting constitutional sheriffs don’t mention sheriffs aren’t in the Constitution.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 4, 2016 • 8:54:05pm

re: #51 Anymouse

I’ve spent most of my adult life affirming either the enlistment oath or its equivalent in my current position.

Richard Mack and his merry band of oath-twisting constitutional sheriffs don’t mention sheriffs aren’t in the Constitution.

Gee, if only we had 220+ years of precedent to guide us in interpreting the Constitution. That would make it easier.
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Ziggy_TARDIS Sep 4, 2016 • 8:58:23pm

The polling has me very worried.

Targetpractice Sep 4, 2016 • 9:00:19pm

re: #53 Ziggy_TARDIS

The polling has me very worried.

Polls tighten in presidential elections, it’s a thing that happens. We’ve still got two months to go.

teleskiguy Sep 4, 2016 • 9:01:26pm

re: #53 Ziggy_TARDIS

The polling has me very worried.

What are you worried about? That Hillary Clinton is going to be our next president, according to almost all the polls?

Interesting Times Sep 4, 2016 • 9:01:51pm

Speaking of media, I was surprised to see an article like this, but then I realized it was from a Canadian newspaper:

I talked to 37 white women in an affluent and critical Philly suburb. Boy is Donald Trump getting whupped: https://t.co/xpI6vLIUg5

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 4, 2016

Read the whole thing, because it’s highly unlikely you’ll ever see this sort of coverage in the US we-need-trump-for-ratings MSM:

The road to the White House doesn’t run through the diners of downtrodden Appalachian coal country. It runs through this upscale supermarket selling fancy cheese to the professional women of a wealthy Philadelphia suburb.

It’s simple math. And it’s leading Donald Trump toward a devastating Pennsylvania defeat.
…
“He’s a horrible guy. He’s just like a bigot, and so nasty,” said a 63-year-old retired school principal, Joanne, a Republican supporting Clinton who declined to give her last name. “No experience, no empathy, no policies.”

Eclectic Cyborg Sep 4, 2016 • 9:03:03pm

Bottom line: Trump can’t win without a significant portion of black and latino voters…and he’s not going to get them.

Also of note: If I am not mistaken, the people who are represented in a lot of those polls tend to skew older.

teleskiguy Sep 4, 2016 • 9:04:43pm

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

Also of note: If I am not mistaken, the people who are represented in a lot of those polls tend to skew older.

And they are talking on land line telephones about 100% of the time. Yeah, great polling sample! For Fox News!

Targetpractice Sep 4, 2016 • 9:04:56pm

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

Bottom line: Trump can’t win without a significant portion of black and latino voters…and he’s not going to get them.

Also of note: If I am not mistaken, the people who are represented in a lot of those polls tend to skew older.

To win without minority voters, Trump needs a record-setting percentage of the white vote. Hence all the (now blown) efforts to try to convince so many people that he’s not a racist.

gwangung Sep 4, 2016 • 9:05:57pm

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

Bottom line: Trump can’t win without a significant portion of black and latino voters…and he’s not going to get them.

Also of note: If I am not mistaken, the people who are represented in a lot of those polls tend to skew older.

And whiter. It’s straight up in the polls and their models.

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 9:07:29pm

re: #45 Anymouse

Pure evil. Thank you for the reminder of what was believed by so many of the scum that pretend to follow Christ Jesus. I talked today about how “no, he does not really mean kill your relatives - hyperbola is a big jewish teaching method. That said be sure of what you mean because to be a true disciple of christ is not an easy or cheap thing to do. Do you wish to serve Christ or Mammon? One really is easier than the other- be sure of what you are willing to do.

I thought about going seriously heretic on them today but there were too many of the wrong people (both too elderly and too young) in attendance today to play that kind of game.

I seriously thought about asking -

What if the atheists are right? Let’s look at this thought experiment:

Being a disciple is dangerous; expensive; hard. But what if there is no reward - no heaven - but equally - what if there is no punishment? No hell? How many of those who call themselves Christian today would still fight to uphold the same ethical standard?

Would you dare fight against every thing this secular culture holds dear if there was no stick and also no carrot? What teaches us to live the way we should if NOTHING else agrees with that? I know what you’d do because it’s what I’d do: we’d run like a scared fucking rabbit to hide in the tall grass…

Today’s was a gospel at the core of Bonhoeffer’s “The Cost of Discipleship”. We know what his answer was - he gave it at the Flossenburg Concentration Camp on 9 April 1945. What is your priority in life? What do you give a rat’s ass about? That, as He said, is where you will find your treasure.

I pray that I am even a portion as lucky as he was.

Amen.

Eclectic Cyborg Sep 4, 2016 • 9:12:49pm

Apparently a lot of the white supremacists are professed Christians.

Which makes no fucking sense to me.

You think whites are the superior race and yet you worship a brown skinned Jew from the Arab world?

retired cynic Sep 4, 2016 • 9:14:02pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently a lot of the white supremacists are professed Christians.

Which makes no fucking sense to me.

You think whites are the superior race and yet you worship a brown skinned Jew from the Arab world?

Ah, but he was really white, with blue eyes and light brown hair. Handsome features, clean and upstanding. ///

Targetpractice Sep 4, 2016 • 9:14:47pm

Look at it this way: Hillary has a greater lead over Trump than Obama had over Romney at this point in the 2012 race. And we’re still weeks away from the first debate on the 26th. In other words, we’re in the quiet season of the race, where people begin to start entertaining third party votes again because the polls show her with a “solid” lead.

So we enter into a feedback loop: Her strong poll #s lead to complacency among fence-sitters, who tell pollsters that they’ll vote third party because Hillary’s going to win, which leads to lower but still strong leads, which leads to further complacency, etc.

teleskiguy Sep 4, 2016 • 9:18:44pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

Don’t try and make sense of it. None of it makes any sense. Lots of white people who are afraid for their safety tonight. It’s all bullshit.

And it’s bad for ya.

Eclectic Cyborg Sep 4, 2016 • 9:19:02pm

I really hope Trump hangs himself (metaphorically speaking) in the debates. Like make the biggest ass of himself ever so almost everyone watching is like “WTF?”.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 4, 2016 • 9:19:09pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently a lot of the white supremacists are professed Christians.

Which makes no fucking sense to me.

You think whites are the superior race and yet you worship a brown skinned Jew from the Arab world?

ive heard them angrily assert that jesus was clearly an ‘aryan’

altho ‘aryans’ properly so called refers to the people who wrote the bhagavad gita & etc…

Eclectic Cyborg Sep 4, 2016 • 9:22:26pm

re: #67 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Yeah because there were tons of muscular, blue eyed, blond haired dudes in Israel 2000 years ago…

Targetpractice Sep 4, 2016 • 9:23:43pm

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope Trump hangs himself (metaphorically speaking) in the debates. Like make the biggest ass of himself ever so almost everyone watching is like “WTF?”.

The debates will certainly be a spectacle, but be prepared for the media to declare Trump the “winner” of the first debate simply for not shitting his pants. The media has set the bar so low for him that no amount of lying will set off their bullshit detectors. Plus they’ll probably give him bonus points for attacking the moderator, which is his go-to when he doesn’t like the questions.

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 9:24:29pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently a lot of the white supremacists are professed Christians.

Which makes no fucking sense to me.

You think whites are the superior race and yet you worship a brown skinned Jew from the Arab world?

The whole thing is they’re stupid enough to think he was white. Pisses me off that these scum deny that he was a Jewish man in Roman Palestine at his core. We Christian’s believe he is also divine but his real nature _requires_ him to be human as well. In that human nature he is a Jewish man. Period.

So everything I do to talk about Christianity is to tie it into what we understand today about Rabbinic Judaism. When He was alive as a man, I look at how he taught as a Rabbi. As a Jewish man.

That is literally evil to them. They are my enemy in so many ways that I can no longer explain - we must finish, as Christians, the story begun about Christ as a Jew. We are what we are and we will do everything good we have the chance to do.

May God have mercy on them. I’m not sure I can despite what I am taught to do. But then I am just another idiot pretending to follow Christ Jesus.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 9:25:50pm

re: #53 Ziggy_TARDIS

The polling has me very worried.

Of course the race isn’t over until it’s over, so letting up on getting out the vote would be foolish.

That said, Sam Wang has his latest model of the election up. Perhaps looking at this chart will cheer you a little bit.

election.princeton.edu

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 4, 2016 • 9:26:10pm

re: #68 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah because there tons of muscular, blue eyed, blond haired dudes in Israel 2000 years ago…

i think it never quite occurs to some of them that the sunday school images were not drawn from life

thinking things through can be very inconvenient

Joe Bacon Sep 4, 2016 • 9:27:01pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

According to the Religious Right, Jesus looked like this!

Your Own Personal Religious Right Je$u$!

retired cynic Sep 4, 2016 • 9:27:30pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon

According to the Religious Right, Jesus looked like this!

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With a machine gun, and a dinosaur.

Pawn of the Oppressor Sep 4, 2016 • 9:30:07pm

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

Something like this?

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What a job. It’s like being an action movie extra, but in real life. ;)

The MP5/40 is obvious, but what about his shoes? They look unusual, like they have reinforced soles and toes. I wonder if the agents who possibly have to jump out of moving vehicles get special footwear.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 4, 2016 • 9:30:15pm

re: #70 William Lewis

The whole thing is they’re stupid enough to think he was white. Pisses me off that these scum deny that he was a Jewish man in Roman Palestine at his core. We Christian’s believe he is also divine but his real nature _requires_ him to be human as well. In that human nature he is a Jewish man. Period.

So everything I do to talk about Christianity is to tie it into what we understand today about Rabbinic Judaism. When He was alive as a man, I look at how he taught as a Rabbi. As a Jewish man.

That is literally evil to them. They are my enemy in so many ways that I can no longer explain - we must finish, as Christians, the story begun about Christ as a Jew. We are what we are and we will do everything good we have the chance to do.

May God have mercy on them. I’m not sure I can despite what I am taught to do. But then I am just another idiot pretending to follow Christ Jesus.

in the book of bible commentary called ‘the book of the acts of god’ written mid 20th cen by a couple of anglican ministers, there appears this sentence:

“it must be admitted that the religion of jesus is not the same as the religion about jesus”

ive spent quite a bit of time thinking about that

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 4, 2016 • 9:31:56pm

It occurs to me that the only Aryan ever to run for President, as far as I know, was Bobby Jindal….

Joe Bacon Sep 4, 2016 • 9:33:27pm

re: #75 Pawn of the Oppressor

What a job. It’s like being an action movie extra, but in real life. ;)

The MP-5/40 is obvious, but what about his shoes? They look unusual, like they have reinforced soles and toes. I wonder if the agents who possibly have to jump out of moving vehicles get special footwear.

Don’t forget the “Make America Great Again” cap!

Eclectic Cyborg Sep 4, 2016 • 9:35:27pm

I wonder if he’ll wear the cap at the debate.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 4, 2016 • 9:35:28pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon

According to the Religious Right, Jesus looked like this!

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he looks like he’d get verdigris if you left him outside too long

retired cynic Sep 4, 2016 • 9:36:50pm

re: #79 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if he’ll wear the cap at the debate.

Not unless they turn the fans up.

Joe Bacon Sep 4, 2016 • 9:39:44pm

Part of me is really dreading the debates because I fear it will turn into Monty Python’s Silly Party sketch.

Come to think of it, the Republican Party IS Monty Python’s Silly Party and it’s split between the Silly and Very Silly factions!

Romantic Heretic Sep 4, 2016 • 9:45:44pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

We’ve had at least one President in a wheelchair so I really don’t understand this kind of attack.

And a pretty good one too.

teleskiguy Sep 4, 2016 • 9:48:00pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon

I’ve noticed that you’re weird with the muscle-bound grotesques like that on Twitter. Nothin’ wrong with that, just noticin’.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 9:48:08pm

re: #70 William Lewis

The whole thing is they’re stupid enough to think he was white. Pisses me off that these scum deny that he was a Jewish man in Roman Palestine at his core. We Christian’s believe he is also divine but his real nature _requires_ him to be human as well. In that human nature he is a Jewish man. Period.

So everything I do to talk about Christianity is to tie it into what we understand today about Rabbinic Judaism. When He was alive as a man, I look at how he taught as a Rabbi. As a Jewish man.

That is literally evil to them. They are my enemy in so many ways that I can no longer explain - we must finish, as Christians, the story begun about Christ as a Jew. We are what we are and we will do everything good we have the chance to do.

May God have mercy on them. I’m not sure I can despite what I am taught to do. But then I am just another idiot pretending to follow Christ Jesus.

Then there are the Christian Identity folk, which go very short on the Christian part and very long on the “Jews are the devil’s spawn” part. They mostly view the Bible as proof that Jews, other non-white races, liberals, &c should die.

Christian Identity folk have been implicated in a number of terroristic acts (such as the Oklahoma City bombing). I feel fortunate that I have one of those churches only fifty miles away in a very unpopulated area where I am a locally-public figure and the trifecta (Democrat, atheist, liberal).

Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Sep 4, 2016 • 9:55:19pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

The debates will certainly be a spectacle, but be prepared for the media to declare Trump the “winner” of the first debate simply for not shitting his pants. The media has set the bar so low for him that no amount of lying will set off their bullshit detectors. Plus they’ll probably give him bonus points for attacking the moderator, which is his go-to when he doesn’t like the questions.

I couldn’t give a fuck who the media calls the winner. I just want white women to come away from the debate thinking “Christ, what an asshole”.

Targetpractice Sep 4, 2016 • 9:58:35pm

re: #86 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

I couldn’t give a fuck who the media calls the winner. I just want white women to come away from the debate thinking “Christ, what an asshole”.

We have to bear in mind that there’s gonna be that “low information voter” crowd that will catch their debate highlights from the morning news, so they’ll be fed a much different narrative from those of us who sit up to watch the blow-by-blow.

Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Sep 4, 2016 • 9:59:28pm

re: #82 Joe Bacon

Part of me is really dreading the debates because I fear it will turn into Monty Python’s Silly Party sketch.

Come to think of it, the Republican Party IS Monty Python’s Silly Party and it’s split between the Silly and Very Silly factions!

Pretty sure I was referring to a certain VP candidate as “Sarah ‘Win Bim Lim Tim Bus-stop Ftang Ftang Ole Biscuit Barrel’ Palin” for a period in 2008.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 10:01:18pm

More on pro-life eugenics in Michigan from the link above:

In 1846 epileptics were barred from marriage in Michigan. This prohibition was elminated in 1962 [emphasis mine] (Paul, p. 389).

Jeffrey Hodges has commented on instances of “euthanasia” for infants in Michican: “Euthanasia of deformed and retardet newborns wa not unknown. In the hospital jargon of the times, they were ‘set aside.’ The were set aside, to live or die, while care was given to the mother….Deformed and retarded children were referred to as FLKs, funny-looking kids; their parents as FLPs” (“Euthenics, Eugenics,” p. 36).

GlutenFreeJesus Sep 4, 2016 • 10:02:23pm

OT: Don’t Breathe (the movie) was so awesome. Not a horror movie at all. Disturbing and suspenseful. If that’s your thing, I highly recommend it.

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 10:03:00pm

re: #76 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“it must be admitted that the religion of jesus is not the same as the religion about jesus”

Oh, my, that is so fucking true. I find that the more I learn about the religion of Jesus the more I believe in the religion about Jesus. Because it is only when I see him as a Jewish man teaching us within the tradition of Rabbinic Judaism and the Mishnah that I find him believable as my Messiah.

Only that man can be the son of man. Only that man can be divine in that sense.

“Lord god of our fathers: God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob and Jesus;
Lord god of our mothers: God of Sarah, Rebekah, Rachel, Leah and Mary;
Open our hearts to be your hands in this world
And give us the grace to accept your love that we might worthily
serve the world in your name,

Amen.”

I wrote this about two years ago and hope it helps find the middle way…

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 10:05:17pm

re: #85 Anymouse

. I feel fortunate that I have one of those churches only fifty miles away ).

Keep that shotgun close to hand. Thier heresy deserves nothing else.

Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 10:17:30pm

re: #92 William Lewis

Keep that shotgun close to hand. Thier heresy deserves nothing else.

Well, one church’s heretic is another’s saint.

That said, I think the Lutheran Church across the street is much more accommodating to me than the CI church in Scottsbluff.

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Eclectic Cyborg Sep 4, 2016 • 10:17:56pm

Anyone else seen the trailers for Mr. Church?

I’m not a big Eddie Murphy fan but I got to admit, this one looks pretty good.

Eclectic Cyborg Sep 4, 2016 • 10:21:25pm

re: #93 Anymouse

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Joe Bacon Sep 4, 2016 • 10:26:08pm

re: #93 Anymouse

Well, one church’s heretic is another’s saint.

That said, I think the Lutheran Church across the street is much more accommodating to me than the CI church in Scottsbluff.

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Damn! When it comes to that survey, I’ll reply, “You go Yahweh and I’ll go my way!”

retired cynic Sep 4, 2016 • 10:29:54pm

re: #96 Joe Bacon

Damn! When it comes to that survey, I’ll reply, “You go Yahweh and I’ll go my way!”

moan!

William Lewis Sep 4, 2016 • 10:34:52pm

re: #96 Joe Bacon

Damn! When it comes to that survey, I’ll reply, “You go Yahweh and I’ll go my way!”

Bad pun but exquisitely true nonetheless. That is some seriously evil & craptacular tie into vile anti-Christian and anti-American garbage. These are people that need to be bitch slapped, told to stop pretending to be Christian and offered the opportunity to be baptized in the name of the Trinity because it is bloody obvious that none of them have ever accepted Christ Jesus as their lord and savior.

majii Sep 4, 2016 • 11:00:10pm

re: #98 William Lewis

I think when they say they’ve converted to Christianity, many of them only went through the motions, so to speak. Their words and actions don’t match their alleged Christian beliefs, and it doesn’t seem to bother them. Another thing I’ve noticed about them is that although they say they’re working to get to heaven when they die, it never seems to occur to them that they need to treat others right here on earth. Instead, they go around creating divisions, peddling hatred, speaking for, and lying on God and Jesus. They have supplanted the teachings of Jesus with their earthly desires based on those whom they “like” and/or “admire.” I would think that a true Christian would want nothing to do with Trump, but the polls show otherwise. Trump has @ 80% of the Evangelical vote based on the results of a poll I saw last week.

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Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 11:04:36pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

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Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 11:12:32pm

re: #99 majii

I think when they say they’ve converted to Christianity, many of them only went through the motions, so to speak. Their words and actions don’t match their alleged Christian beliefs, and it doesn’t seem to bother them. Another thing I’ve noticed about them is that although they say they’re working to get to heaven when they die, it never seems to occur to them that they need to treat others right here on earth. Instead, they go around creating divisions, peddling hatred, speaking for, and lying on God and Jesus. They have supplanted the teachings of Jesus with their earthly desires based on those whom they “like” and/or “admire.” I would think that a true Christian would want nothing to do with Trump, but the polls show otherwise. Trump has @ 80% of the Evangelical vote based on the results of a poll I saw last week.

Well, that’s the issue of the “no true Christian” fallacy.

I’m not going to get into who I think is a true Christian or not, for obvious reasons. But Christian Identity folk invoke that against everyone else, Catholics for a long time invoked it against Protestants, many Protestants invoke that against Catholics, all of them try to claim Timothy McVeigh or Dylan Roof are atheists (because it is uncomfortable to admit their murderous ideologies came from the same book, interpreted differently).

The Thirty Years’ War was fought on the idea of “you’re not a true Christian.”

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sagehen Sep 4, 2016 • 11:16:24pm

re: #88 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

Pretty sure I was referring to a certain VP candidate as “Sarah ‘Win Bim Lim Tim Bus-stop Ftang Ftang Ole Biscuit Barrel’ Palin” for a period in 2008.

I couldn’t possibly remember a name like that; I’ll stick to Caribou Barbie.

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Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 11:20:34pm

re: #102 sagehen

I couldn’t possibly remember a name like that; I’ll stick to Caribou Barbie.

I go with the Tundra Grifter.

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Targetpractice Sep 4, 2016 • 11:24:05pm

re: #103 Anymouse

I go with the Tundra Grifter.

I go with “Princess Dumbass of the North Woods” (h/t: Charles Pierce).

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Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 11:27:09pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

I go with “Princess Dumbass of the North Woods” (h/t: Charles Pierce).

Are there taco trucks in Wasilla?

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Targetpractice Sep 4, 2016 • 11:31:12pm

re: #105 Anymouse

Are there taco trucks in Wasilla?

If you find a Latino in Alaska, they got lost somewhere during the drive in Canada.

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Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 11:39:27pm

re: #61 William Lewis

Pure evil. Thank you for the reminder of what was believed by so many of the scum that pretend to follow Christ Jesus. I talked today about how “no, he does not really mean kill your relatives - hyperbola is a big jewish teaching method. That said be sure of what you mean because to be a true disciple of christ is not an easy or cheap thing to do. Do you wish to serve Christ or Mammon? One really is easier than the other- be sure of what you are willing to do.

I thought about going seriously heretic on them today but there were too many of the wrong people (both too elderly and too young) in attendance today to play that kind of game.

I seriously thought about asking -

What if the atheists are right? Let’s look at this thought experiment:

Being a disciple is dangerous; expensive; hard. But what if there is no reward - no heaven - but equally - what if there is no punishment? No hell? How many of those who call themselves Christian today would still fight to uphold the same ethical standard?

Would you dare fight against every thing this secular culture holds dear if there was no stick and also no carrot? What teaches us to live the way we should if NOTHING else agrees with that? I know what you’d do because it’s what I’d do: we’d run like a scared fucking rabbit to hide in the tall grass…

Today’s was a gospel at the core of Bonhoeffer’s “The Cost of Discipleship”. We know what his answer was - he gave it at the Flossenburg Concentration Camp on 9 April 1945. What is your priority in life? What do you give a rat’s ass about? That, as He said, is where you will find your treasure.

I pray that I am even a portion as lucky as he was.

Amen.

For the Christian who has to have his or her religious belief to be a good person, my argument is “by all means do not give it up.” I would be truly concerned to have a neighbour who cannot tell the difference between empathy and greed, or between good and ill, unless they have a person to tell them exactly what good and ill is. Perhaps that person needs a keeper.

As for the idea we have “no punishment,” I suppose that is why we don’t have cops, courts, and jails.

The idea that fighting against everything secular culture holds dear includes the idea that freedom of religion should be abolished (freedom of religion is a secular idea).

The Puritans did not come here to escape persecution, they came here to set up a theocracy. They were not interested in freedom of religion; that was an Enlightenment idea.

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Anymouse Sep 4, 2016 • 11:46:19pm

Satire Website Newslo (just enough news) has an article “citing” Kellyanne Conway:

Mexico Wall to be Extended to Surround US as Protection from Hurricanes and Sea Level Rise:

politicops.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 12:08:31am

re: #82 Joe Bacon

Part of me is really dreading the debates because I fear it will turn into Monty Python’s Silly Party sketch.

Come to think of it, the Republican Party IS Monty Python’s Silly Party and it’s split between the Silly and Very Silly factions!

It also houses the Ludicrous Party: any claim that seems to harm the opposition, no matter how spurious, contrived or even contradictory to other claims, is accepted without examination and will be spread as common knowledge.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 12:15:17am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It also houses the Ludicrous Party: any claim that seems to harm the opposition, no matter how spurious, contrived or even contradictory to other claims, is accepted without examination and will be spread as common knowledge.

Spaceball One is capable of traveling at four different speeds: When a situation requires it to travel faster than its normal “sub-light” speed, it can accelerate to “Light Speed”, “Ridiculous Speed”, and “Ludicrous Speed”

So the Republican Party is a Winnebago?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 12:17:52am

re: #110 Anymouse

So the Republican Party is a Winnebago?

And it is a bit like the spaceship Heart of Gold from the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy with its infinite improbability drive: it can occupy any number of contradictory assertions at any one given moment.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 12:20:02am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And it is a bit like the spaceship Heart of Gold from the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy with its infinite improbability drive: it can occupy any number of contradictory assertions at any one given moment.

So it will turn into a rubber duck?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 12:36:14am

re: #112 Anymouse

So it will turn into a rubber duck?

a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias, too…all at the same time

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 2:04:57am

“I am not a number! I am a free man!”

In this case, the number is 50 — 50 years since The Prisoner, starring Patrick McGoohan, first ~~aired on TV~~ began filming. BBC has a photo essay about it.

bbc.com

It was a weird show, in many respects. But influential.

Trivia: The 2009 remake starred Jim Caviezel, who later played John Reese in Person of Interest, in McGoohan’s role.

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freetoken Sep 5, 2016 • 2:23:21am

Fitting music for a quiet early morning:

Barbirolli conducts Delius - Intermezzo and Serenade from “Hassan”

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Sep 5, 2016 • 2:29:58am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So it will turn into a rubber duck?

a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias, too…all at the same time

I dunno, that sounds a little diverse for the GOP. I’m pretty sure they just turn into several jars of mayonnaise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 2:32:14am

re: #116 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

I dunno, that sounds a little diverse for the GOP. I’m pretty sure they just turn into several jars of mayonnaise.

but no Cinco de Mayo!

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 2:49:14am

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She will now be on TV weekly: Variety

Soledad O’Brien will join the second season of Hearst Television’s political magazine show “Matter of Fact” as anchor and producer.

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Eventual Carrion Sep 5, 2016 • 3:19:39am

Bat bird

Bird wants to be a bat

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Eventual Carrion Sep 5, 2016 • 3:35:09am

Liberty Bridge fire, Pittsburgh

But we know the truth!

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 3:47:25am

re: #58 teleskiguy

And they are talking on land line telephones about 100% of the time. Yeah, great polling sample! For Fox News!

I have a landline telephone. No pollster ever called me.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 3:52:21am

Former Republican House Policy Chief Evan McMullin unleashed a Twitter barrage against Donald Trump for his attacks on Senator Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.)

The barrage is too long for me to post here, but they have it at Addicting Info, in response to Mr. Trump’s tweets.

addictinginfo.org

Mr. McMullin notes that Donald Trump “must be defeated.” Dayum.

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Dave In Austin Sep 5, 2016 • 3:54:24am

Welcome back Les……

What?!! pic.twitter.com/clxYD0UnEP

— Leslie Jones (@Lesdoggg) August 23, 2016

Her feed is interesting to say the least.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 4:05:41am

SPLC has a new Hatewatch article out, detailing all the racism and violence involved with all the GOP candidates and their supporters in this election (it ain’t just Trump).

They also gave a shout out to Mr. Johnson here at Little Green Footballs.

splcenter.org

The next day, Trump retweeted an image of a black man dressed like a gangster that claimed, among other things, that blacks were responsible for 81% of whites murdered in the United States — a “Pants on Fire” falsehood, according to PolitiFact, that was almost the exact reverse of the truth (in 2014, 82% of murdered whites were killed by other white people). The website Little Green Footballs traced the original tweet to a Hitler admirer. [emphasis mine] Trump never retracted or apologized for the tweet, one result of which was a jump in Google searches for the phrase “black on white crime” from 2,900 searches in October to 8,100 in November.

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Timothy Watson Sep 5, 2016 • 4:22:46am

re: #124 Anymouse

SPLC has a new Hatewatch article out, detailing all the racism and violence involved with all the GOP candidates and their supporters in this election (it ain’t just Trump).

They also gave a shout out to Mr. Johnson here at Little Green Footballs.

splcenter.org

LGF IS IRRELEVANT!!1!!

(Wish I had the stock picture for that handy.)

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Decatur Deb Sep 5, 2016 • 4:59:24am

re: #120 Eventual Carrion

Liberty Bridge fire, Pittsburgh

But we know the truth!

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The first house I can remember, about 1946, would be under Godzilla’s tail if he has it resting up The Bluff to the edge. It’s a Duquesne University parking lot now.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 5:09:59am

I’ve been busy reading through the very long file at the SPLC on John Tanton basically being the brainpower behind the anti-immigrant and pro-eugenics movement in the USA for decades, and the great number of GOP politicians and other movers and shakers of the right who are aligned with his organisations.

It is a fascinating read (though very long), and well-documented (since the University of Michigan holds an extensive number of letters from Mr. Tanton that SPLC was able to review).

splcenter.org

They detail Mr. Tanton’s organisation US, Inc. It was the founder of the organisations FAIR, NumbersUSA, and CIS. They aligned themselves with the explicit eugenicist Pioneer Fund and received over 1.3 million dollars from that organisation.

Several members wrote for American Renaissance and the Council of Conservative Citizens (the Uptown Klan). Numerous Republican politicians have been board members of those organisations over the last thirty years, though they resign when called out (well, most of them).

Those groups worked amongst other things to sink the comprehensive immigration reform bill under George W. Bush, and seek to choke off all immigration. They hold the 1924 Immigration Act was not based in racism, nor the Chinese Exclusion Act. They hold such ideas that Jews support immigration because of the SS Saint Louis debacle (out of guilt), and oppose the Roman Catholic and Lutheran Churches (because they both believe their theology transcends national boundaries).

Fascinating article. (I guess they would really hate me.)

splcenter.org

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freetoken Sep 5, 2016 • 5:17:46am

Similarly to last year: If you are a wrestler who is going to work in Mexico as a heel (i.e., the antagonist) there is one sure way to get people to boo you:

Trump Heel

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 5:18:39am

Still reading that article: Am totally not surprised that David Duke is associated with them (who endorsed Donald Trump).

Big tent the GOP has had for many decades: They’ll accept any ol’ racist, eugenicist, or white supremacist person or organisation.

(Or other groups, like Ronald Reagan calling himself a “sagebrush rebel” in the proud tradition of groups like sovereign citizens and the Posse Comitatus.)

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freetoken Sep 5, 2016 • 5:24:40am

I bet this will be abused to no end:

Study links autism severity to genetics, ultrasound

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Dr Lizardo Sep 5, 2016 • 5:26:25am

re: #59 Targetpractice

To win without minority voters, Trump needs a record-setting percentage of the white vote. Hence all the (now blown) efforts to try to convince so many people that he’s not a racist.

What percentage of the white vote did Romney win? I’d daresay Trump would definitely need to better that in order to win, and I’d rate that at slim odds.

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Dr Lizardo Sep 5, 2016 • 5:28:45am

re: #120 Eventual Carrion

Liberty Bridge fire, Pittsburgh

But we know the truth!

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Godzilla is responsible for a lot more than people realize………

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 5:29:44am

re: #59 Targetpractice

To win without minority voters, Trump needs a record-setting percentage of the white vote. Hence all the (now blown) efforts to try to convince so many people that he’s not a racist.

White Trump supporters (pretty much a redundant term nowadays) are people who hate politicians and hate politics as usual. They hate the GOP nearly as much as they hate the Democrats. They are voting to spite both.

Still, there are plenty of people who dislike politics and politicians, but not enough to shoot themselves in the foot to make a point. They know who to vote for.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 5:32:06am

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

What percentage of the white vote did Romney win? I’d daresay Trump would definitely need to better that in order to win, and I’d rate that at slim odds.

My vote will be the vote that puts Hillary Clinton over the top. /s

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Targetpractice Sep 5, 2016 • 5:32:28am

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

What percentage of the white vote did Romney win? I’d daresay Trump would definitely need to better that in order to win, and I’d rate that at slim odds.

70% or better.

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Dr Lizardo Sep 5, 2016 • 5:33:59am

re: #135 Targetpractice

70% or better.

Then Trump would need to pull around 80% of white voters in order to win. Color me skeptical on the possibility of that happening.

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CuriousLurker Sep 5, 2016 • 5:34:19am

Deleted prev. tweet, this article has more info: 2 confirmed dead, 7 still missing in #TelAviv parking lot collapse https://t.co/tODwURr0zX

— CuriousLurker (@CuriousLurker) September 5, 2016

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 5:34:58am

re: #135 Targetpractice

70% or better.

So, mine put President Obama over the top too? /s

I’m getting better at this: I started by voting for Jimmy Carter against Ronald Reagan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 5:37:11am

re: #138 Anymouse

So, mine put President Obama over the top too? /s

I’m getting better at this: I started by voting for Jimmy Carter against Ronald Reagan.

That was my first national election, and it was depressing. Before the polls had even closed in Arizona they were already calling Reagan the winner.

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Dr Lizardo Sep 5, 2016 • 5:38:17am

re: #137 CuriousLurker

Oh, damn…..sounds like an overloaded roof/structural weakness issue, like the Sampoong Department Store collapse in South Korea back in 1995.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 5:40:46am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was my first national election, and it was depressing. Before the polls had even closed in Arizona they were already calling Reagan the winner.

I was at sea on the USS John F Kennedy. I voted by Federal absentee ballot. I didn’t hear about the results for a couple days after the election.

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CuriousLurker Sep 5, 2016 • 5:41:38am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

It was overloaded alright. I don’t know who thought this was a good idea:

Reports said the collapse was likely due to structural failure after a tractor drove across the structure’s upper story.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 5:46:01am

re: #141 Anymouse

I was at sea on the USS John F Kennedy. I voted by Federal absentee ballot. I didn’t hear about the results for a couple days after the election.

But we all knew the outcome as soon as the hostage rescue operation failed…

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lawhawk Sep 5, 2016 • 5:50:55am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Our Labor Day looks to be pretty good weather-wise after all, even with Hermine offshore. Looks like it’s going to cause some coastal flooding, but not as bad as feared. That’s a good thing as the storm heads up towards Cape Cod and then out to sea.

Can’t wait for the GOP to commemorate Labor Day tomorrow, all while attacking wage hikes, unions, and workers. You know - labor.

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 5, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 5:53:06am

re: #144 lawhawk

Can’t wait for the GOP to commemorate Labor Day tomorrow, all while attacking wage hikes, unions, and workers. You know - labor.

They pay lip service to the notion of the ennobling nature and social value of hard work, but in the end, labor is just another commodity, an expense that is to be cut wherever possible to boost profits.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 5:53:33am

OT: Trip into Scottsbluff tomorrow.

My wife is concerned that His Royal Highness, Lord of All He Surveys, Felix Strangelet Randomkitty, may be ill.

She is concerned over what is apparently his great consumption of water since we got back from Canada last month … perhaps a kidney disorder or even diabetes.

Hence The Cat (tm) will be going to his least-favourite place (the vet).

Felix Randomkitty is eight years old.

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lawhawk Sep 5, 2016 • 5:55:27am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump (and Romney before him) personified that very notion. Romney cut jobs to boost the bottom line. Trump simply offshored jobs to maximize his profits for his clothing line, or litigated his contracts to cut agreed-upon service/labor/materials costs. He cost people jobs, money, and time in his pursuit to maximize his profits.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 5:55:29am

re: #146 Anymouse

Speaking of Felix Randomkitty, he just jumped up to interfere with my typing (I am supposed to pay constant attention to him).

He has enforced this since we got back from our five week trip to Canada and several states. He demands attention to make up for what he missed.

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jeffreyw Sep 5, 2016 • 5:56:34am

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Good morning!

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 5:59:37am

hey klys, runners and all y’all

i just ran 2 miles straight.
no stops no walking
no aches no pains
good form and good pace
first time since february

why am i telling you? i’m telling everybody

some of you may know, i used to run 60 miles a week or so - often 15 in a day
it was the daily start that centered my life. it informed my mental state, well being, of course physical condition, eating habits, discipline etc

an injury in february sidelined me

and then many things unraveled. instead of eatng less to compensate, i ate more - boredom etc. gained 20 lbs
with short notice, it was hard to find an alternate discipline that i could instantly internalize.
so lots of frustration, drifting, impatience.

now this is no comparsion to the things some of you are/have gone through recently. ive read your stories
still its a baby step milestone

and now that we have our plumbing, septic, a/c etc all squared away, the lady dm and i are looking forward to nothing more than an ordinary week

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 6:01:42am

re: #150 dangerman

I am happy for you.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 6:08:08am

re: #150 dangerman

I can run two metres straight. /s

The longest I recently ran was in a village fundraiser for the library, 5,000 metres. I finished ahead of a woman pushing a baby stroller while running, so there is that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 6:08:51am

re: #147 lawhawk

Trump (and Romney before him) personified that very notion. Romney cut jobs to boost the bottom line. Trump simply offshored jobs to maximize his profits for his clothing line, or litigated his contracts to cut agreed-upon service/labor/materials costs. He cost people jobs, money, and time in his pursuit to maximize his profits.

And all those small business people (who are at least held holy by the GOP as Job Creators) worked for him and then had to settle for pennies on the dollar because he took advantage of bankruptcy law to get out paying them off in full.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 6:09:16am

re: #149 jeffreyw

Good morning!

I want a truckload of that on my corner RIGHT NOW!!!

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 6:10:35am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I want a truckload of that on my corner RIGHT NOW!!!

I want my taco truck. Mr. Trump’s spokesperson spoke of taco trucks on every corner.

Two tacos in every pot. (Or two pot tacos?)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 6:10:54am

re: #150 dangerman

hey klys, runners and all y’all

i just ran 2 miles straight.
no stops no walking
no aches no pains
good form and good pace
first time since february

why am i telling you? i’m telling everybody

We used to run 2 miles several times a week…at 6,900 feet elevation.

Now I have to kick myself out the door for a 2-mile walk up in the vineyards.

I should get a dog, but I live alone and am often away from home.

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 6:27:44am

re: #152 Anymouse

I can run two metres straight. /s

The longest I recently ran was in a village fundraiser for the library, 5,000 metres. I finished ahead of a woman pushing a baby stroller while running, so there is that.

i once got passed in a half marathon by a guy running while dribbling two basketballs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 6:34:13am

My speed/distance record is 4 miles in 35 minutes, and was only accomplished because I did not want to lose sight of my spandex-clad female running partner.

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 6:36:32am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My speed/distance record is 4 miles in 35 minutes, and was only accomplished because I did not want to lose sight of my spandex-clad female running partner.

Get you r motivation wherever you can

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 6:38:16am

So far this morning I’ve been called a c**t, a b**ch and a whore by the good folks on twitter! (And it’s 730 am) Happy Labor Day everybody!!

— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) September 5, 2016

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 6:41:46am

Off-topic: I fixed my Nixie clock. (A Nixie clock is a clock made with one or more Nixie tubes, the florescent tubes with shaped numbers to display digital readouts invented in the Fifties. No company currently makes Nixie tubes but there is a Chinese company planning to enter the market.)

It was constructed by my wife’s second ex-husband, who makes Nixie clocks for extra cash. It is constructed out of a 1925 GE DC ammeter, where the meter displays different data according to how you set the Nixie clock with buttons. (I have the meter displaying the day of the week.) It has only one tube, so the time is displayed in a series of digits (0-7-4-0).

Somehow the power cord became disconnected from the power supply inside the ammeter. (It hasn’t worked for several months; I just got around to looking at it.)

He sells all sorts of Nixie clocks on line.

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Alyosha Sep 5, 2016 • 6:45:55am

Just applied for leave for the first week of November.
I want to be comfy when history gets made :)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 6:46:32am

re: #161 Anymouse

Off-topic: I fixed my Nixie clock. (A Nixie clock is a clock made with one or more Nixie tubes, the florescent tubes with shaped numbers to display digital readouts invented in the Fifties. No company currently makes Nixie tubes but there is a Chinese company planning to enter the market.)

It was constructed by my wife’s second ex-husband, who makes Nixie clocks for extra cash. It is constructed out of a 1925 GE DC ammeter, where the meter displays different data according to how you set the Nixie clock with buttons. (I have the meter displaying the day of the week.) It has only one tube, so the time is displayed in a series of digits (0-7-4-0).

Somehow the power cord became disconnected fromt he power supply inside the ammeter. (It hasn’t worked for several months; I just got around to looking at it.)

He sells all sorts of Nixie clocks on line.

Impressive. My dad had a Casio calculator with a Nixie tube display in the early 1970s. It was primitive by even 1975 standards, but it was my first exposure to an electronic calculator. And I was a math geek, so I liked exploring what it could do.

It’s long gone. Probably would fetch a pretty penny now from a collector.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 6:47:11am

re: #162 Alyosha

Just applied for leave for the first week of November.
I want to be comfy when history gets made :)

And if for some reason Mr. Trump wins, I will break the glass on my new display case, take out the Canadian money, and head for the border with my wife.

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 6:47:14am

re: #161 Anymouse

Off-topic: I fixed my Nixie clock. (A Nixie clock is a clock made with one or more Nixie tubes, the florescent tubes with shaped numbers to display digital readouts invented in the Fifties. No company currently makes Nixie tubes but there is a Chinese company planning to enter the market.)

It was constructed by my wife’s second ex-husband, who makes Nixie clocks for extra cash. It is constructed out of a 1925 GE DC ammeter, where the meter displays different data according to how you set the Nixie clock with buttons. (I have the meter displaying the day of the week.) It has only one tube, so the time is displayed in a series of digits (0-7-4-0).

Somehow the power cord became disconnected fromt he power supply inside the ammeter. (It hasn’t worked for several months; I just got around to looking at it.)

He sells all sorts of Nixie clocks on line.

Careful you’re not forced to leave the country

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 6:50:21am

re: #163 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Impressive. My dad had a Casio calculator with a Nixie tube display in the early 1970s. It was primitive by even 1975 standards, but it was my first exposure to an electronic calculator. And I was a math geek, so I liked exploring what it could do.

It’s long gone. Probably would fetch a pretty penny now from a collector.

The clock he built for me is pictured part way down the page, Model 11a.
nixietube.info

I also bought one of his “Nixie nightlights” (those are simply powered Nixie tubes that don’t do anything special, built into a plug-in power supply), but had him modify it with a working tube to make a clock (for a gift for my mother).

He takes orders to build Nixie and Decatron tube clocks on his page (I’ll plug my husband-in-law).

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Alyosha Sep 5, 2016 • 6:51:47am

re: #164 Anymouse

And if for some reason Mr. Trump wins, I will break the glass on my new display case, take out the Canadian money, and head for the border with my wife.

Alternatively, (and it’s not going to happen) a bad result will allow me to dull the pain with day wine.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 6:52:51am

re: #167 Alyosha

Alternatively, (and it’s not going to happen) a bad result will allow me to dull the pain with day wine.

I prefer Sailor Jerry’s mixed in cranberry juice or Kool-Aid; alternatively Irish Whiskey in coffee.

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Jayleia Sep 5, 2016 • 6:53:48am

re: #164 Anymouse

If that happens, I’m breaking out the hard stuff…and I don’t mean liquor.

I…am actually not sure if I should add a ///

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 6:54:55am

re: #166 Anymouse

Thanks for the link.

Here’s the kind of calculator we had, but not the exact model. I think dad’s was black with a fake woodgrain top surface. The decimal point was indicated with a sliding pointer below the tubes.

Image: w-casioas-c.jpg

In ‘75 I bought a Texas Instruments scientific calculator with LED display, since I was then intending to major in physics. I’ve forgotten the price, but it wasn’t cheap. But it sure beat using a slide rule.

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freetoken Sep 5, 2016 • 6:58:09am

Christian News Network warns us:

‘Increasingly Aggressive’ Atheists Target Children in New Evolution-Promoting Book

Here’s the wicked book that aims to trap your child’s soul:

Annabelle & Aiden: The Story Of Life

It has 35 reviews on Amazon.

It has 35 five star reviews, out of 35.

Must be a very wicked book.

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HappyWarrior Sep 5, 2016 • 7:00:07am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She obviously struck a nerve with the bigots.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:01:02am

re: #170 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks for the link.

Here’s the kind of calculator we had, but not the exact model. I think dad’s was black with a fake woodgrain top surface. The decimal point was indicated with a sliding pointer below the tubes.

Image: w-casioas-c.jpg

In ‘75 I bought a Texas Instruments scientific calculator with LED display, since I was then intending to major in physics. I’ve forgotten the price, but it wasn’t cheap. But it sure beat using a slide rule.

In 1971, my mother was in college and bought a Sharp Elsimate calculator, which at the time cost $400. It would add, subtract, multiply, and divide. With a slide switch it would do multiple calculations.

My maternal grandmother at the time was a school teacher; she brought the calculator into her junior high class to show it off, and noted that someday calculators would displace slide rulers and cost about $10. A student called her out to the principal for spreading lies, and she was disciplined by the school board for claiming that electronic calculators would be anything but novelties.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:01:06am

re: #170 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ah, I found our Casio! oldcalculatormuseum.com

From around 1970, when I was in 9th grade. It could do only basic arithmetic ops, but it made doing science homework a lot faster, one I learned how to deal with there being no decimal point on the display. One still had to be aware of orders of magnitude, as with a slide rule.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:01:30am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

She obviously struck a nerve with the bigots.

A badge of honour.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 7:01:55am

re: #171 freetoken

The most awful of books. Bill Nye likes it too.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:03:13am

re: #173 Anymouse

In 1971, my mother was in college and bought a Sharp Elsimate calculator, which at the time cost $400. It would add, subtract, multiply, and divide. With a slide switch it would do multiple calculations.

My maternal grandmother at the time was a school teacher; she brought the calculator into her junior high class to show it off, and noted that someday calculators would displace slide rulers and cost about $10. A student called her out to the principal for spreading lies, and she was disciplined by the school board for claiming that electronic calculators would be anything but novelties.

Reminds me of those folks in the 1930s who said television was only a novelty and would never catch on.

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HappyWarrior Sep 5, 2016 • 7:04:58am

re: #175 Anymouse

A badge of honour.

Yeah I’m sure she wouldn’t have it any other way.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:07:30am

re: #177 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Reminds me of those folks in the 1930s who said television was only a novelty and would never catch on.

My first calculator was an HP-41C:
en.wikipedia.org

Little did I know I would now be married to a Digital Equipment (now Hewlett-Packard) software engineer. Small world. /s

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freetoken Sep 5, 2016 • 7:10:32am

re: #179 Anymouse

I still have my 41C. IIRC it was my 3rd calculator.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:10:57am

Felix Randomkitty is back in my lap demanding my attention and putting his head over my arm so I cannot type 23aedfo43poqi3a;elfnskQstj5wt;lj

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:13:14am

re: #180 freetoken

I still have my 41C. IIRC it was my 3rd calculator.

My ex-wife has mine (as she has all my personal property after our divorce and I went homeless = she refused to deliver anything of mine to me including my clothes = said I could take her to court knowing I had no more money after our divorce).

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 7:14:46am

re: #179 Anymouse

My first calculator was an HP-41C:
en.wikipedia.org

Little did I know I would now be married to a Digital Equipment (now Hewlett-Packard) software engineer. Small world. /s

when i was a child my dad still used something like this

and no, i am not that old

he then paid about $400 for a sharp el-8

power supply was bigger than the 4 function , 8 digit calculator

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:14:49am

Damn, Felix, quit clawing my hands ad;flawkjn4rq24oihj

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 5, 2016 • 7:17:36am

re: #173 Anymouse

In 1971, my mother was in college and bought a Sharp Elsimate calculator, which at the time cost $400. It would add, subtract, multiply, and divide. With a slide switch it would do multiple calculations.

My maternal grandmother at the time was a school teacher; she brought the calculator into her junior high class to show it off, and noted that someday calculators would displace slide rulers and cost about $10. A student called her out to the principal for spreading lies, and she was disciplined by the school board for claiming that electronic calculators would be anything but novelties.

When I was in college (1980’s) we were allowed to use calculators for simple arithmetic (add, subtract, multiply, divide & square root) but no advanced functions. I had a Texas Instruments calculator that cost about $75.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:17:38am

re: #183 dangerman

The EL-8 looks like my mother’s calculator, though it had batteries (along with a whonkin’ power supply), and a slide switch on the face marked “K” (for constant calculations).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:19:59am

re: #180 freetoken

I still have my 41C. IIRC it was my 3rd calculator.

I had my TI SR-50 for years, but its Ni-Cad battery pack finally gave up the ghost and I suppose I tossed it. By that time, I was teaching and had a newer TI scientific model, then the new graphing models. I think a TI-86 was my last one. Since my school fronted the money, I left it in the care of my successor.

Now there are scientific calculator apps for smartphones, if I were so inclined.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:20:55am

re: #185 The Vicious Babushka

When I took my FCC Radiotelephone exams (back when there were 3rd, 2nd, and 1st, plus radar endorsement - now there is only general class), I was allowed to use my HP-41C.

The proctor asked everyone what model calculator they were using, and gave directions on how to “master clear” each model’s memory of programming (to prevent using stored electronics formulae).

I upset a whole bunch of college-educated communications engineers as I ploughed through all four tests and passed them all with only my high school diploma and Navy training, while no one else in the room got past 2nd class.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:23:35am

re: #188 Anymouse

Sounds like my dad, who was largely self-taught, with further training working stateside with the US Army Signal Corps during WWII. A heart murmur made him ineligible for combat duty, so he volunteered as a civilian.

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 7:29:28am

re: #187 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I had my TI SR-50 for years, but its Ni-Cad battery pack finally gave up the ghost and I suppose I tossed it. By that time, I was teaching and had a newer TI scientific model, then the new graphing models. I think a TI-86 was my last one. Since my school fronted the money, I left it in the care of my successor.

Now there are scientific calculator apps for smartphones, if I were so inclined.

you have more computing power and storage space in your back pocket than a old air conditioned room, raised floor full of equipment - and that’s before its phone, internet, and cat selfies functions

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:33:06am

re: #190 dangerman

you have more computing power and storage space in your back pocket than a old air conditioned room, raised floor full of equipment - and that’s before its phone, internet, and cat selfies functions

My understanding is the computing power available on the Apollo missions was about that of a Commodore 64 (on which I ran a bulletin board on secularism and church/state separation while I was in the Navy in the mid-Eighties).

The computer I am typing on now could join Mensa.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:33:30am

re: #190 dangerman

you have more computing power and storage space in your back pocket than a old air conditioned room, raised floor full of equipment - and that’s before its phone, internet, and cat selfies functions

I know. It’s rather mindboggling how much more powerful calculators and computers (and phones) have become in 40 years, while becoming much less costly.

It hasn’t seemed to have made humans much smarter, however.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:34:26am

re: #192 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I know. It’s rather mindboggling how much more powerful calculators and computers (and phones) have become in 40 years, while becoming much less costly.

It hasn’t seemed to have made humans much smarter, however.

Lucky for me, my telephone is a Provençal dial telephone. It will never be smarter than me.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 7:34:30am

I still have my TI-30 SLR and it still works. :)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:35:22am

re: #191 Anymouse

My understanding is the computing power available on the Apollo missions was about that of a Commodore 64 (on which I ran a bulletin board on secularism and church/state separation while I was in the Navy in the mid-Eighties).

The computer I am typing on now could join Mensa.

The computer systems on the Space Shuttles were woefully obsolete (by commercial standards) by the time they launched the first Shuttle.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 7:35:34am

re: #192 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I know. It’s rather mindboggling how much more powerful calculators and computers (and phones) have become in 40 years, while becoming much less costly.

It hasn’t seemed to have made humans much smarter, however.

They have not yet achieved their goal of making us dependent on them…

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:35:45am

re: #194 PhillyPretzel

I still have my TI-30 SLR and it still works. :)

Wow.

I still have my Royal Model 10 typewriter (built in 1914), and I still use it to write letters.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 7:36:56am

re: #197 Anymouse

My late dad would be envious of you. He loved those old typewriters.

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 7:37:04am

re: #191 Anymouse

My understanding is the computing power available on the Apollo missions was about that of a Commodore 64 (on which I ran a bulletin board on secularism and church/state separation while I was in the Navy in the mid-Eighties).

The computer I am typing on now could join Mensa.

The computer you are typing on is mensa

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:38:31am

re: #197 Anymouse

Wow.

I still have my Royal Model 10 typewriter (built in 1914), and I still use it to write letters.

My son the mechanical engineer and coding guru has two manual typewriters. One works and one needs repairs. He spends all day sitting in front of a computer screen, so when he comes home and has to write something, he uses pen and paper or the typewriter.

But, I noticed he still uses his smartphone, so he’s not a purist. :D

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:39:02am

re: #199 dangerman

The computer you are typing on is mensa

Can’t be. Has too much personality.

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 7:39:32am

Off to work folks
Yard maintenance awaits

Labor day is right. Lotsa labor

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:40:02am

re: #195 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The computer systems on the Space Shuttles were woefully obsolete (by commercial standards) by the time they launched the first Shuttle.

Pesky problem of technology: It moves faster than things like acceptance inspections and contracts.

The F-14 fighter jet was displaced by the F/A-18 as I was leaving the US Navy: the technology was considered out-of-date even though it was (and still is) considered the best air superiority fighter at the time. (I worked in Intermediate maintenance during my career, so I fixed components from all aircraft at the bases and on ships I was stationed at/aboard.)

Even today, though the technology of the F-14 is from the Sixties, the fighter jet would still likely be the best air superiority fighter in the sky today. (Iran is about the only country that still uses the aeroplane.)

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:42:02am

re: #200 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My son the mechanical engineer and coding guru has two manual typewriters. One works and one needs repairs. He spends all day sitting in front of a computer screen, so when he comes home and has to write something, he uses pen and paper or the typewriter.

But, I noticed he still uses his smartphone, so he’s not a purist. :D

There is a company that makes a magnetic detection kit for a Royal Model 10 that allows that typewriter to be used as a computer keyboard via a USB port. They sell the product for around $75. I am considering buying one. It has the advantage that it doesn’t damage the typewriter to put it in (but takes about a day’s work), and everything you enter into the computer is instant hardcopy (via the paper in the typewriter).

Steampunk computing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:44:44am

re: #204 Anymouse

There is a company that makes a magnetic detection kit for a Royal Model 10 that allows that typewriter to be used as a computer keyboard via a USB port. They sell the product for around $75. I am considering buying one. It has the advantage that it doesn’t damage the typewriter to put it in (but takes about a day’s work), and everything you enter into the computer is instant hardcopy (via the paper in the typewriter).

I saw something similar for the iPad somewhere online. You stuck the iPad in the “platen” as if it were a piece of paper, and typed on a mechanical keyboard. There were no type hammers, obviously.

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Barefoot Grin Sep 5, 2016 • 7:45:07am

I have to buy a TI-84 for my younger kid today. We already have one, but the other child takes it to a different school. I don’t see how they can require a $100 calculator.

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Big Beautiful Door Sep 5, 2016 • 7:46:50am

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

What percentage of the white vote did Romney win? I’d daresay Trump would definitely need to better that in order to win, and I’d rate that at slim odds.

Romney got about 60% of the white vote. Playing with this RCP election simulator, I estimate Trump would need about 64% of the white vote. One caveat. Those numbers are based on the 2012 exit polls, and I’ve read that a study showed that the exit polling wasn’t that accurate for determining voter demographics and Obama actually got a higher percentage of the white vote than he is normally credited for.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 7:50:59am

re: #181 Anymouse

Felix Randomkitty is back in my lap demanding my attention and putting his head over my arm so I cannot type 23aedfo43poqi3a;elfnskQstj5wt;lj

My “thoughts and prayers” (if atheist prayers are worth anything) for Felix Randomkitty. Drinking way more water than usual and getting really skinny was Pumpkin’s first symptom. We didn’t take him to the doctor as quickly as we should have, because it was really hot, and he always got really skinny in the summer. We lost him yesterday—he would have been 15 on the 30th.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:51:00am

re: #205 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I saw something similar for the iPad somewhere online. You stuck the iPad in the “platen” as if it were a piece of paper, and typed on a mechanical keyboard. There were no type hammers, obviously.

The same company makes such magnetic keyboards for a number of typewriter models.

They include using the typewriter to make inputs to iPads as well as regular computers.
usbtypewriter.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 7:51:06am

re: #206 Barefoot Grin

I have to buy a TI-84 for my younger kid today. We already have one, but the other child takes it to a different school. I don’t see how they can require a $100 calculator.

Math textbooks now are keyed to graphing calculator functions. Believe me, it’s worth the investment. A student can graph a function in seconds, play around with the coefficients and immediately see how the graph changes. Your kids can use them for later classes in math and science, too.

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Big Beautiful Door Sep 5, 2016 • 7:52:35am

re: #185 The Vicious Babushka

When I was in college (1980’s) we were allowed to use calculators for simple arithmetic (add, subtract, multiply, divide & square root) but no advanced functions. I had a Texas Instruments calculator that cost about $75.

When I was in college, I bought a small black solar powered calculator cheap. It worked a couple of decades, and never needed batteries. I once lost it for a couple of years in the coach, then when I exposed it to light it started right up.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:54:38am

re: #208 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My “thoughts and prayers” (if atheist prayers are worth anything) for Felix Randomkitty. Drinking way more water than usual and getting really skinny was Pumpkin’s first symptom. We didn’t take him to the doctor as quickly as we should have, because it was really hot, and he always got really skinny in the summer. We lost him yesterday—he would have been 15 on the 30th.

Felix Randomkitty hasn’t lost any weight (I weighed him this morning; he still weighs 28#, or more than one-fifth of my weight which is very apparent when he jumps on me to sleep on my chest).

That said, an early catch of a potential problem is more likely to ensure a good outcome with the vet.

Thank you for your concern. Felix spends every Sunday morning sitting on our organ, which is next to a window facing the Lutheran Church across the street, terrorising the churchgoers as they come and go. A fair number of our neighbours have told my wife or me they are afraid of our cat.

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Jenner7 Sep 5, 2016 • 7:54:52am

“Hey, guys!” Hillary Clinton comes back to welcome the press on to the plane pic.twitter.com/7XWssS0yAS

— Liz Kreutz (@ABCLiz) September 5, 2016

Press excited.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:56:09am

re: #213 Jenner7

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Press excited.

As they should be. They are in the company of our next President.

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Dr Lizardo Sep 5, 2016 • 7:57:38am

re: #204 Anymouse

There is a company that makes a magnetic detection kit for a Royal Model 10 that allows that typewriter to be used as a computer keyboard via a USB port. They sell the product for around $75. I am considering buying one. It has the advantage that it doesn’t damage the typewriter to put it in (but takes about a day’s work), and everything you enter into the computer is instant hardcopy (via the paper in the typewriter).

Steampunk computing.

Steampunk latop.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 7:59:09am

re: #210 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Math textbooks now are keyed to graphing calculator functions. Believe me, it’s worth the investment. A student can graph a function in seconds, play around with the coefficients and immediately see how the graph changes. Your kids can use them for later classes in math and science, too.

I feel oldz. I wasn’t allowed anything more than a slide ruler in high school, and they wouldn’t even allow my slide ruler because it had too many scales on it. I had to get a “standard” slide ruler.

(My mother gave it to me; it came from Cleveland Institute of Electronics. It had a number of scales for calculating electronic formulae on it.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 7:59:43am

re: #187 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I had my TI SR-50 for years, but its Ni-Cad battery pack finally gave up the ghost and I suppose I tossed it. By that time, I was teaching and had a newer TI scientific model, then the new graphing models. I think a TI-86 was my last one. Since my school fronted the money, I left it in the care of my successor.

Now there are scientific calculator apps for smartphones, if I were so inclined.

I had several TI calculators back in the day, but the keys would always start “stuttering” after about a year. Finally went HP and got used to the supremely weird Reverse Polish notation.

The first electronic calculators I used were Wangs in school—four terminals working off each big-suitcase-sized unit. 10-figure Nixie tube display. Four function plus square root. Had an “enter” key, so they were kind of Reverse Polish, I guess.

You could punch cards to do a bunch of other stuff. We had cards fot sine, tangent, and cosecant. Put the card in the base unit and it would take about a minute for each calculation. We had just landed men on the moon—with less advanced electronics than this….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:00:17am

re: #216 Anymouse

I feel oldz. I wasn’t allowed anything more than a slide ruler in high school, and they wouldn’t even allow my slide ruler because it had too many scales on it. I had to get a “standard” slide ruler.

(My mother gave it to me; it came from Cleveland Institute of Electronics. It had a number of scales for calculating electronic formulae on it.)

Oh eM Gee…they made us learn how to use a slide rule in my high school chemistry class…have not touched one since.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 8:01:39am

re: #217 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I had several TI calculators back in the day, but the keys would always start “stuttering” after about a year. Finally went HP and got used to the supremely weird Reverse Polish notation.

The first electronic calculators I used were Wangs in school—four terminals working off each big-suitcase-sized unit. 10-figure Nixie tube display. Four function plus square root. Had an “enter” key, so they were kind of Reverse Polish, I guess.

You could punch cards to do a bunch of other stuff. We had cards fot sine, tangent, and cosecant. Put the card in the base unit and it would take about a minute for each calculation. We had just landed men on the moon—with less advanced electronics than this….

My HP-41C was RPN. I wrote two programs for it: one that would calculate compound interest, and one that would calculate geocentric natal charts for astrology (I was paid to do that, and it took every last byte of available memory for me to do that).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 8:02:25am

re: #190 dangerman

you have more computing power and storage space in your back pocket than a old air conditioned room, raised floor full of equipment - and that’s before its phone, internet, and cat selfies functions

The iPhone 5, that came out 4 years ago, before they went to a 64-bit processor, had more throughput than the Cray 2 supercomputer—that’s the one Tron was supposedly running in.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 8:03:32am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oh eM Gee…they made us learn how to use a slide rule in my high school chemistry class…have not touched one since.

I still have the CIE slide ruler my mother gave me, though I don’t use it much. (I don’t do a whole lot of mathematics these days. I sit around and pound keys at places like LGF and Wonkette and AlterNet instead.)

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Barefoot Grin Sep 5, 2016 • 8:05:01am

re: #210 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Math textbooks now are keyed to graphing calculator functions. Believe me, it’s worth the investment. A student can graph a function in seconds, play around with the coefficients and immediately see how the graph changes. Your kids can use them for later classes in math and science, too.

You’re right, I know. The teacher said exactly that—the homework/classwork is specifically developed for this calculator, so no cheap substitutes. (My wife is all, “well, back in my country we weren’t allowed to use calculators and that’s why we’re much smarter than Americans,” which didn’t play well at the dinner table.) Anyway, when it comes to expenses, when it rains it pours.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 8:05:35am

re: #198 PhillyPretzel

My late dad would be envious of you. He loved those old typewriters.

I can be kind of curmudgeonly about new technology, but mechanical (and servo-assisted mechanical) typewriters are one category I have no residual affection for.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:08:25am

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I can be kind of curmudgeonly about new technology, but mechanical (and servo-assisted mechanical) typewriters are one category I have no residual affection for.

I am not curmudgeony, just not very technophile. But as soon as you can demonstrate how it can be of practical use to me, I will adopt it.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 8:11:21am

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I use technology to help me. The internet allows me to shop, pay my bills, enjoy movies and television shows. I still remember how to change a ribbon on a typewriter and load a 35mm camera.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 8:11:58am

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I can be kind of curmudgeonly about new technology, but mechanical (and servo-assisted mechanical) typewriters are one category I have no residual affection for.

Same here, so I find my son’s affection for them very odd. His affection for vinyl LPs, on the other hand, I find tolerable.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 8:13:51am

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I can be kind of curmudgeonly about new technology, but mechanical (and servo-assisted mechanical) typewriters are one category I have no residual affection for.

I suffer from Dupuytren’s Contractures, a result of my Polish ethnic heritage aggravated by my use of Phenobarbital for my epilepsy since 1995. I have had four hand surgeries for the condition, which requires physical therapy.

The typewriter is excellent therapy for my hands, as it requires exercise of all my fingers and a fair amount of pressure to impress letters on paper. Hence, I type a lot of real letters to mail to family and friends, as well as filling in state paperwork.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 8:16:34am

My Nixie clock is still working. I guess I fixed it.

My wife hates it (partially because Nixie clock, partially because her ex-hub used to have ten or more of the things around her old home when she was married to him, all doing their Nixie thing).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 8:18:40am

re: #227 Anymouse

I suffer from Dupuytren’s Contractures, a result of my Polish ethnic heritage aggravated by my use of Phenobarbital for my epilepsy since 1995. I have had four hand surgeries for the condition, which requires physical therapy.

The typewriter is excellent therapy for my hands, as it requires exercise of all my fingers and a fair amount of pressure to impress letters on paper. Hence, I type a lot of real letters to mail to family and friends, as well as filling in state paperwork.

Whatever works for you. I still get the horrors thinking about writing a 50-page paper with footnotes (“If I type one more line, I’ll need another footnote, but will I have room for it?” And the line never quite returns to exactly the right place after typing a superscript.) on a Smith Corona portable, so I’m good with the “delete” key….

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 8:22:00am

re: #229 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Whatever works for you. I still get the horrors thinking about writing a 50-page paper with footnotes (“If I type one more line, I’ll need another footnote, but will I have room for it?” And the line never quite returns to exactly the right place after typing a superscript.) on a Smith Corona portable, so I’m good with the “delete” key….

That’s what correction ribbons are for (they now make ribbons for Royal Model 10 typewriters that are half-black and half-correction ribbon).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:22:47am

re: #229 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Whatever works for you. I still get the horrors thinking about writing a 50-page paper with footnotes (“If I type one more line, I’ll need another footnote, but will I have room for it?” And the line never quite returns to exactly the right place after typing a superscript.) on a Smith Corona portable, so I’m good with the “delete” key….

I typed my Russian papers on a Russian manual typewriter. I am trying to regain my chops by corresponding with attractive, cultivated young Russian women, but they keep wanting to marry me.

Why can’t I find one who just wants to correspond?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 8:23:04am

re: #229 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Whatever works for you. I still get the horrors thinking about writing a 50-page paper with footnotes (“If I type one more line, I’ll need another footnote, but will I have room for it?” And the line never quite returns to exactly the right place after typing a superscript.) on a Smith Corona portable, so I’m good with the “delete” key….

Been there, done that, but mine was 81 pages. I borrowed my girlfriend’s IBM Selectric for that chore, because my Olivetti portable manual was not up to the task.

Ye gods, I never want to do that again! I embraced word processing and never looked back.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 8:24:08am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I typed my Russian papers on a Russian manual typewriter. I am trying to regain my chops by corresponding with attractive, cultivated young Russian women, but they keep wanting to marry me.

Why can’t I find one who just wants to correspond?

They want to get out of Russia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:24:09am

re: #232 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Been there, done that, but mine was 81 pages. I borrowed my girlfriend’s IBM Selectric for that chore, because my Olivetti portable manual was not up to the task.

Ye gods, I never want to do that again! I embraced word processing and never looked back.

I could not (nor would I) work as a translator without being able to simply write over the original.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:24:31am

re: #233 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They want to get out of Russia.

Whod’ve thunk it?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 8:25:38am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whod’ve thunk it?

Inorite?

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ObserverArt Sep 5, 2016 • 8:25:52am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

Soledad O’Brien ✔ @soledadobrien
So far this morning I’ve been called a c**t, a b**ch and a whore by the good folks on twitter! (And it’s 730 am) Happy Labor Day everybody!!
7:35 AM - 5 Sep 2016
683 683 Retweets 1,546 1,546 likes

Touched a big nerve she did!

Good. And this reaction is the type of debate the hate side of America comes back with. It’s all they have and displays their level of intelligence.

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Decatur Deb Sep 5, 2016 • 8:28:18am

re: #170 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks for the link.

Here’s the kind of calculator we had, but not the exact model. I think dad’s was black with a fake woodgrain top surface. The decimal point was indicated with a sliding pointer below the tubes.

Image: w-casioas-c.jpg

In ‘75 I bought a Texas Instruments scientific calculator with LED display, since I was then intending to major in physics. I’ve forgotten the price, but it wasn’t cheap. But it sure beat using a slide rule.

Sounds like the TI SR-10. Bought one for stats classes because it was the first calculator I found with square roots. It cost me 150 (1973) dollars, a bit more than a week’s pay. Watched it come down about $10 per month, until finally I saw Kellog’s cereal boxes that contained a free coupon.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 8:28:52am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I typed my Russian papers on a Russian manual typewriter. I am trying to regain my chops by corresponding with attractive, cultivated young Russian women, but they keep wanting to marry me.

Why can’t I find one who just wants to correspond?

That happened to my brother-in-law. He cooresponded with a Soviet immunologist for many years, and after the fall of the Soviet Union wound up marrying her.

His sin was bringing her to Texas. They are considering moving now to our little village.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:31:47am

Honestly, though, I had just got my Russian keyboard installed and just for yucks, I responded to an unsolicited mail I got from a “young Russian woman”.

Oddly enough, she did not request money, but said she really wanted to come out and visit me at her own expense.

I got a bit suspicious, though, that she never really answered any personal questions, just a lot of boilerplate stuff about where she comes from and then went over to declarations of endless love and candlelight dinners and blah blah blah…

She said she even had tickets and could I come pick her up.

So I looked up “Russian women” and “scam” on Google and found a notice from the US foreign service:

so this woman requests no money from you, but says she is coming.

You go to meet her, she does not get off plane.

Then you get a desperate message from her that she is being held at immigration, she just needs to show that she has $1,000 in cash so she can enter the country. Could you wire it to her? She will give it right back to you as soon as she gets through

You wire her the money and…

That could not have happened to me, as I do not have that much to spare in the first place.

But yes, that is the new scam they have worked out.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 8:33:19am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

Sounds like the TI SR-10. Bought one for stats classes because it was the first calculator I found with square roots. It cost me 150 (1973) dollars, a bit more than a week’s pay. Watched it come down about $10 per month, until finally I saw Kellog’s cereal boxes that contained a free coupon.

It was an SR-50, for about $150 IIRC. Quite a bit of money for a college freshman, but I put it on my university bookstore credit card and paid it off with my u-store paychecks.

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Dr Lizardo Sep 5, 2016 • 8:34:02am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Romance scammers are always coming up with some new angle; it doesn’t take long before people wise up to their tricks so they have to innovate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:35:55am

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

Romance scammers are always coming up with some new angle; it doesn’t take long before people wise up to their tricks so they have to innovate.

Remember the Teddy Bear Virus from around 2000?

That was an amazing way to get someone to disable their own computer, deactivating a Java Script driver, thinking that they were removing a dangerous bug.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 8:37:22am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a story that made the rounds in China last month about some poor schmoe from overseas who had corresponded with some Chinese girl over several weeks and was so smitten that he told her he would come to China to meet her. They agreed to meet at the airport … and she didn’t show. He waited at the airport a week, and finally the girl (she was apparently younger than he) turned up, with some lame excuse that she intended to meet him but something happened, blah blah blah.

Not sure what happened from there.

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jaunte Sep 5, 2016 • 8:37:45am

IMHO, #LaborDay seems like a holiday where GOP officials should just sort of apologize for blocking every major labor reform law.

— Russell Drew (@RussOnPolitics) September 5, 2016

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 8:38:10am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I got a few e-mails about that one. I asked a few computer experts/geeks. They said to ignore it.

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Anymouse Sep 5, 2016 • 8:38:41am

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

Romance scammers are always coming up with some new angle; it doesn’t take long before people wise up to their tricks so they have to innovate.

My wife has a section on Romance scams on her Website Cynics for a Better Tomorrow.

Perhaps I should alert her to this variant of the Romance scam so she can add it to her site.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:38:50am

re: #244 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There was a story that made the rounds in China last month about some poor schmoe from overseas who had corresponded with some Chinese girl over several weeks and was so smitten that he told her he would come to China to meet her. They agreed to meet at the airport … and she didn’t show. He waited at the airport a week, and finally the girl (she was apparently younger than he) turned up, with some lame excuse that she intended to meet him but something happened, blah blah blah.

Not sure what happened from there.

Read about that, the woman was duly chastised for ignoring the cardinal Chinese virtues of honesty and punctuality.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 8:39:50am

re: #246 PhillyPretzel

I got a few e-mails about that one. I asked a few computer experts/geeks. They said to ignore it.

I am so glad I was not an IT guy before and during the so-called Y2K crisis. The endless questions would have driven me nuts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:39:55am

re: #246 PhillyPretzel

I got a few e-mails about that one. I asked a few computer experts/geeks. They said to ignore it.

I got it as an e-mail from a friend (who had been hacked).

Fortunately, there was an easy fix, but yeah, I got suckered in…

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ObserverArt Sep 5, 2016 • 8:44:04am

re: #195 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The computer systems on the Space Shuttles were woefully obsolete (by commercial standards) by the time they launched the first Shuttle.

They were old IBM 8088s weren’t they? I think that was the first Personal PC from IBM. I remember reading something about NASA buying used ones from private people to keep their stock up as they were still flying the Shuttle and computers were already way beyond that for personal use.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:44:46am

re: #249 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I am so glad I was not an IT guy before and during the so-called Y2K crisis. The endless questions would have driven me nuts.

We made a point of flying back home from the US on New Year’s Eve 1999 so as to miss the Planes Falling Out of the Sky scenario…that did not happen, but I recall arriving in the early afternoon in Frankfurt and never seeing the airport look so deserted at that time of day.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 8:45:08am

re: #249 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I was a Y2K tester for a former job. I did not think we would have too many problems because we got by Sept 9, 1999 without a problem. 9999 is the all clear in COBOL. :)

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 5, 2016 • 8:45:25am

re: #182 Anymouse

Seen this? swissmicros.com

I just ordered their HP-16C clone.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 8:45:59am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Read about that, the woman was duly chastised for ignoring the cardinal Chinese virtues of honesty and punctuality.

Sadly, there is a significant proportion of women in China who value financial security above romance or either of those virtues. If a guy can’t provide a house and a car at the very minimum, he’s just SOL.

Meanwhile, there’s a significant proportion of men in China who are just plain deadbeats who would rather spend all day playing computer games and hanging out with friends than actually working a job, so I can’t really blame the ladies for wanting stuff upfront.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 5, 2016 • 8:53:00am

re: #251 ObserverArt

The RCA CDP1802 processor is still in production today. Go read about it. Amazing little beastie. A fully static processor core-no wonder it’s still in use for satellite designs.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 5, 2016 • 8:54:11am

re: #255 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sadly, there is a significant proportion of women in China who value financial security above romance or either of those virtues. If a guy can’t provide a house and a car at the very minimum, he’s just SOL.

Meanwhile, there’s a significant proportion of men in China who are just plain deadbeats who would rather spend all day playing computer games and hanging out with friends than actually working a job, so I can’t really blame the ladies for wanting stuff upfront.

This is not limited to China.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 5, 2016 • 8:55:51am

re: #253 PhillyPretzel

I did not think we would have too many problems because we got by Sept 9, 1999 without a problem.

What about the End of the the epoch problem in Unix? That’s about two decades away, IIRC..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 8:56:12am

re: #255 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sadly, there is a significant proportion of women in China who value financial security above romance or either of those virtues. If a guy can’t provide a house and a car at the very minimum, he’s just SOL.

Meanwhile, there’s a significant proportion of men in China who are just plain deadbeats who would rather spend all day playing computer games and hanging out with friends than actually working a job, so I can’t really blame the ladies for wanting stuff upfront.

And I also read that there is an enormous demographic surplus of marriageable aged males (result of the one-child policy and families preferring a male heir), so I guess women can afford to be selective.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 8:57:46am

re: #257 Blind Frog Belly White

This is not limited to China.

Quite true

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 8:58:57am

re: #258 Eric The Fruit Bat

I do not know about that. I to my knowledge have not used Unix.

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jaunte Sep 5, 2016 • 9:05:10am

Ivanka donated to Bondi’s reelect a week before the Trump Foundation donated $25k to her PAC. Donald 2mo earlier. pic.twitter.com/1Yyqc21K6Z

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) September 5, 2016

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Pawn of the Oppressor Sep 5, 2016 • 9:06:46am

re: #255 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sadly, there is a significant proportion of women in China who value financial security above romance or either of those virtues. If a guy can’t provide a house and a car at the very minimum, he’s just SOL.

Meanwhile, there’s a significant proportion of men in China who are just plain deadbeats who would rather spend all day playing computer games and hanging out with friends than actually working a job, so I can’t really blame the ladies for wanting stuff upfront.

That’s something of a self-reinforcing problem too. I can imagine a guy thinking “Women are materialistic, and I don’t have any material, so I’m not going to bother being ambitious.” A guy could easily feel hopeless in that situation.

Of course, this is my white American self guessing at what drives people in China, which has a whole different value base.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Sep 5, 2016 • 9:07:19am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And I also read that there is an enormous demographic surplus of marriageable aged males (result of the one-child policy and families preferring a male heir), so I guess women can afford to be selective.

The ratio now is somewhere around 130 men to every 100 women, and the gap will widen over the next 20 years.

Men (or their parents) are also selective in mates, as there is a cultural expectation that the man makes more money or has a higher status in education or employment than the woman. So some of my younger friends’ marriage plans have been thwarted by parents who don’t like their intended mates’ financial or social status.

This cultural phenomenon has created what are called “leftover” women (sheng nu 剩女), who have high level jobs or graduate degrees but no suitable or willing men to marry.

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Barefoot Grin Sep 5, 2016 • 9:15:56am

I know three American guys from grad school who are married to “leftover” Chinese women. Their wives are all well-paid white-collar workers in American tech and finance firms. Their marriages are pretty good, though when the in-laws come for a visit, they tend to stay for months to be with the grandchildren. That can cause some friction.

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ObserverArt Sep 5, 2016 • 9:18:35am

re: #256 Eric The Fruit Bat

The RCA CDP1802 processor is still in production today. Go read about it. Amazing little beastie. A fully static processor core-no wonder it’s still in use for satellite designs.

RCA made good stuff.

I found this article from 2002 discussing NASA hunting for old equipment.

geek.com - NASA needs 8086 chips

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 9:25:07am

Heh. I was looking at some of the Gold box deals on the amazon website and I noticed they are having a sale on business and investing books. Take a wild guess whose books are not there. That Trump Person.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 9:25:24am

re: #266 ObserverArt

RCA made good stuff.

I found this article from 2002 discussing NASA hunting for old equipment.

geek.com - NASA needs 8086 chips

The ISS runs on a network of ‘386 chips, right? And the Curiosity Rover has the same processor as my old g3 iMac, just slower and with much less memory. It takes many years for a CPU to be rated for the radiation environment in space, and it’s thoroughly obsolete by then.

At least one of the Hubble servicing missions replaced its original ‘386 controller with a ‘486….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 9:26:45am

re: #266 ObserverArt

RCA made good stuff.

I found this article from 2002 discussing NASA hunting for old equipment.

geek.com - NASA needs 8086 chips

That was the whole premise of “Space Cowboys”: reactivating astronauts from the 60’s because they were the only ones familiar with the technology needed to defuse an abandoned Soviet-era nuclear satellite.

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austin_blue Sep 5, 2016 • 9:31:14am

Morning all!

Paul Krugman in today’s NYT, echoing Soledad O’Brien:

nytimes.com

It’s a good, quick read.

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Alyosha Sep 5, 2016 • 9:33:00am

Mona Lisa Overdrive

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gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 9:33:47am

Clinton Foundation funds: clean drinking water, lower-priced AIDS drugs
Trump Foundation funds: Tim Tebow helmets pic.twitter.com/DcZ9NktsMA

— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) September 4, 2016

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wrenchwench Sep 5, 2016 • 9:33:59am

re: #270 austin_blue

Morning all!

It’s a good, quick read.

Them: fascinating short read of 76 pages.
Me: pic.twitter.com/VtAXMKXA5g

— Johnetta Elzie (@Nettaaaaaaaa) September 5, 2016

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 5, 2016 • 9:37:49am

re: #270 austin_blue

Morning all!

Paul Krugman in today’s NYT, echoing Soledad O’Brien:

nytimes.com

It’s a good, quick read.

Somebody should force Eric Lichtblau to read it, since it talks about him in all but name.

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gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 9:38:55am

Rare Photos of a 19-Year-Old Princehttps://t.co/maxVid89bH

— History In Pictures (@HistoryInPix) September 5, 2016

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ObserverArt Sep 5, 2016 • 9:39:39am

re: #268 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The ISS runs on a network of ‘386 chips, right? And the Curiosity Rover has the same processor as my old g3 iMac, just slower and with much less memory. It takes many years for a CPU to be rated for the radiation environment in space, and it’s thoroughly obsolete by then.

At least one of the Hubble servicing missions replaced its original ‘386 controller with a ‘486….

I think it did as they were Windows based. I believe they went to Linux operating systems now for security. The old systems (XP???) got a virus from a Russian Cosmonaut who brought a laptop onboard. Ooops!

Those 386 series chips are still valuable too

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Jenner7 Sep 5, 2016 • 9:42:11am

CLEVELAND —

TRUMP on Clinton:

“Does she look presidential, fellas? Give me a break.”

— Kevin Cirilli (@kevcirilli) September 5, 2016

Wonder what he means by that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 9:43:08am

re: #277 Jenner7

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Wonder what he means by that?

nothing at all, and that is the wonder of it…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 9:45:03am

Clinton and Kaine shaking hands on the tarmac in Cleveland pic.twitter.com/eBQPeyC4Ze

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) September 5, 2016

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gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 9:46:26am

To do list, by Johnny Cash pic.twitter.com/rhHx0pijTq

— History In Pictures (@HistoryInPix) September 5, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 9:46:32am

Too late to worry about taco trucks on every corner. They’ve already started taking over the buildings themselves. pic.twitter.com/7J0UCQmECx

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) September 5, 2016

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 9:48:23am

Not even false equivalence, outright statement that Trump is MORE transparent than Hillary.
CHUCK TODDDDD!!!11!!!

CHUCK TODD [prepping a question to Pence]: Politicus [originally from MTP}
You guys have higher ground on this issue, on this whole idea of transparency, and her accountability. If you guys were as transparent, releasing the tax returns, him releasing his tax returns, whatever you want to say about the Clintons, and we know this because the information has either been dragged out of them or it’s been disclosed.

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Teukka Sep 5, 2016 • 9:48:31am

In other news, they found Philae!
esa.int

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Alyosha Sep 5, 2016 • 9:49:20am

Forgive me, folks. I’m spamming you a bit, I know.

Eskimo Joe - Smoke

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Barefoot Grin Sep 5, 2016 • 9:51:11am

re: #284 Alyosha

Forgive me, folks. I’m spamming you a bit, I know.

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Video

I like this one more than Mona Lisa Overdrive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 9:51:54am

heh…

Trump press bus forced to pull over as Hillary’s motorcade passes by in suburban Cleveland.

— Steve Peoples (@sppeoples) September 5, 2016

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A Cranky One Sep 5, 2016 • 9:52:29am

re: #277 Jenner7

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Wonder what he means by that?

Simple. She doesn’t have a penis.

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 9:53:21am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

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jaunte Sep 5, 2016 • 9:54:47am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s the Trump mobile container for his rally scapegoats?

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 9:57:52am

re: #289 jaunte

That’s the Trump mobile container for his rally scapegoats?

At some point you would think part of the press would be seriously concerned about what might happen to them in a Trump regime.

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Alyosha Sep 5, 2016 • 10:04:14am

re: #285 Barefoot Grin

Okay, here’s one for all the introverts in Lizardland :D

Lyrics first, for a taste.

I don’t go to parties baby
‘cause people tend to freak me out
Watch their lips you can work it out
I can hear the words but I still don’t know what it’s all about
You won’t see me down the disco mama
Bright lights really hurt my eyes
I’d rather stay and dance with you
To the funky music playing on your stereo
Ooh ooh, things don’t get no better
Better than you and new
Ooh ooh, things don’t get no better
Better than you and me
I don’t go to concerts baby
Music’s always up too loud
Cigarettes and alcohol get up my arse
I always lose you in the crowd
You won’t see me tribal raving baby
‘cause I won’t ever look that good
I’d rather dance in ugly pants in the comfort of a loungeroom in suburbia

Regurgitator - ! (The Song Formerly Known As)

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austin_blue Sep 5, 2016 • 10:05:14am

re: #290 Ming5000

At some point you would think part of the press would be seriously concerned about what might happen to them in a Trump regime.

You mean the barbed-wire-enclosed day spa between Uvalde and Del Rio, Texas?

It’s a two-year vacation resort!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 10:06:26am

This Labor Day, let’s take a moment of silence in commemoration of a now gone noble profession in America: Political Journalist

— Adrian Moine (@amoine) September 5, 2016

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 10:09:19am

re: #292 austin_blue

You mean the barbed-wire-enclosed day spa between Uvalde and Del Rio, Texas?

It’s a two-year vacation resort!

Ok, i did a little a-googlin’ and didn’t come up with much except Uvalde is an actual place. Are you referring to one of the secret FEMA camps or what?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 10:10:48am

re: #290 Ming5000

At some point you would think part of the press would be seriously concerned about what might happen to them in a Trump regime.

NJ GOP candidate threatens ‘Daily Beast’ reporter: ‘I hope somebody rapes you today’

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Skip Intro Sep 5, 2016 • 10:13:10am

This man who wants me to be raped today was a Republican candidate for office in NJ https://t.co/NgxtjOTaJ9 pic.twitter.com/H31Q5VmXVc

— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) September 5, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 10:14:39am

re: #296 Skip Intro

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Mr. Krawitz has a serious punctuation impairment…

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jaunte Sep 5, 2016 • 10:14:49am

Great new poll- thank you Iowa!#MakeAmericaGreatAgain pic.twitter.com/JjGtgLdqrI

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 5, 2016

Trump campaign is apparently citing a @FiveThirtyEight poll showing him ahead in Ohio. There isn’t one—we don’t do our own horse race polls.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 5, 2016

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 10:16:09am

I am getting my Chuck Todd on.

Yes , he said it:

Chuck Todd slipped and telling the truth about traditional mainstream news

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Barefoot Grin Sep 5, 2016 • 10:16:37am

re: #291 Alyosha

Okay, here’s one for all the introverts in Lizardland :D

Lyrics first, for a taste.

I don’t go to parties baby
‘cause people tend to freak me out
Watch their lips you can work it out
I can hear the words but I still don’t know what it’s all about
You won’t see me down the disco mama
Bright lights really hurt my eyes
I’d rather stay and dance with you
To the funky music playing on your stereo
Ooh ooh, things don’t get no better
Better than you and new
Ooh ooh, things don’t get no better
Better than you and me
I don’t go to concerts baby
Music’s always up too loud
Cigarettes and alcohol get up my arse
I always lose you in the crowd
You won’t see me tribal raving baby
‘cause I won’t ever look that good
I’d rather dance in ugly pants in the comfort of a loungeroom in suburbia

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Video

I like it (though at my age I’m more familiar with Radio Birdman, Paul Kelly, Weddings, Parties, Anything, etc.).

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Alyosha Sep 5, 2016 • 10:16:50am

Last one. Maybe…

My Hands Are Tied

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Alyosha Sep 5, 2016 • 10:20:20am

re: #300 Barefoot Grin

Triple J did a retrospective of Radio Birdman after one of the frontmen died while I was living in Brisbane. Never heard of them. Not awful but Paul Kelly is better. Not as good as Bob Dylan.

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Barefoot Grin Sep 5, 2016 • 10:23:07am

re: #302 Alyosha

Triple J did a retrospective of Radio Birdman after one of the frontmen died while I was living in Brisbane. Never heard of them. Not awful but Paul Kelly is better. Not as good as Bob Dylan.

My brother had a RB album and it just looked so cool. Not all songs were that great. I think Bob was a major influence on Paul Kelly. Australia and New Zealand have produced an outsize of terrific bands considering the size of their populations.

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Pawn of the Oppressor Sep 5, 2016 • 10:27:31am

re: #276 ObserverArt

I think it did as they were Windows based. I believe they went to Linux operating systems now for security. The old systems (XP???) got a virus from a Russian Cosmonaut who brought a laptop onboard. Ooops!

Those 386 series chips are still valuable too

My first PC was a Packard-Bell Legend 520SX with a 386SX processor running at 20MHz… I know a lot of people here have experience with much, much older computer tech. :)

I really enjoyed learning that the New Horizons probe is running a version of a MIPS R3000 processor design dated to 1988. And digging further into the history of MIPS is a fun read too. A lot of cell phone CPU design dates back to the garage band days of computing.

Hot-stuff whiz-bang latest-and-greatest consumer hardware might be great for playing Halo, but it won’t get you to the outer solar system…

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stpaulbear Sep 5, 2016 • 10:30:41am

re: #303 Barefoot Grin

My brother had a RB album and it just looked so cool. Not all songs were that great. I think Bob was a major influence on Paul Kelly. Australia and New Zealand have produced an outsize of terrific bands considering the size of their populations.

Paul Kelly sings about some of his influences on the song Words and Music. This isn’t one of his most representative songs, but I love the whole Words and Music album. It was my first exposure to his music.

Words And Music

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austin_blue Sep 5, 2016 • 10:30:52am

re: #294 Ming5000

Ok, i did a little a-googlin’ and didn’t come up with much except Uvalde is an actual place. Are you referring to one of the secret FEMA camps or what?

Actually, there used to be a Japanese internment camp out there, not far from where they built the recreation of the Alamo for John Wayne and company. It’s in the middle fuck-all nowheresville.

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Alyosha Sep 5, 2016 • 10:32:35am

re: #303 Barefoot Grin

We do okay. The faves here are Cold Chisel/Jimmy Barnes shite. Pub songs but not halfway-decent like Oasis.

Okay, last one. For the atheists. Again, by Regurgitator (whose album ‘Unit’ you should definitely stream or whatever the kids are doing these days). As before, lyrics first:

all that i am and all i’ll ever be is a brain in a body
and all that i know and all i’ll ever see are the real things around me
and all i’ve heard is true, there aint no god theres just me and you
i dont see a point to this place but im happy to be floating in space
i wont mind if your holding my hand
if life seems so fine when you dont understand it
the world turns around and it dont give a damn
if we all die away and we never come back again

Thanks for your time.

Just Another Beautiful Story - Regurgitator

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 10:38:48am

re: #306 austin_blue

Ah, a time when a government did something that was later considered a mistake.
The fear of the OTHERS

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jaunte Sep 5, 2016 • 10:40:18am

Americans possess a unique industrialism & thirst for opportunity that is the backbone of our free enterprise system https://t.co/EmE2MtlRT9

— Senator Ted Cruz (@SenTedCruz) September 5, 2016

To celebrate Labor Day, Ted Cruz has been replaced by a robot.

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jaunte Sep 5, 2016 • 10:44:37am

Have a safe and happy Labor Day, & remember the men & women who wear the uniform to defend our freedoms. pic.twitter.com/jEkSu7X5k0

— Gov. Greg Abbott (@GovAbbott) September 5, 2016

Oh man, the robot takeover is spreading.

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 10:45:07am

re: #309 jaunte

To celebrate Labor Day, Ted Cruz has been replaced by a robot.

Code words for laissez-faire capitalism

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Barefoot Grin Sep 5, 2016 • 10:49:38am

re: #305 stpaulbear

Paul Kelly sings about some of his influences on the song Words and Music. This isn’t one of his most representative songs, but I love the whole Words and Music album. It was my first exposure to his music.

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Yes, that is a great album. I think I have most excepting the most recent.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 10:52:53am

re: #311 Ming5000

Code words for laissez-faire capitalism

Remember When Eric Cantor Honored America’s Unsung Managerial Class on Labor Day?

Today, we celebrate those who have taken a risk, worked hard, built a business and earned their own success.

— Eric Cantor (@EricCantor) September 3, 2012

Good times….

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CuriousLurker Sep 5, 2016 • 10:55:26am

Since the discussion seems to be at least in part about sleazy people there’s this:

Early this morning I read a WaPo article with some interest as it described what the Dallas police shootings were like for the DPD sergeant who was there that day and lost three of his guys: Inside the deadliest day for U.S. law enforcement since 9/11

As usual I went in search of more info and while I was surfing Google Images I saw this weird graphic claiming that one of the cops who died might have been a white supremacist. I looked at the URL and saw that it was a HuffPo piece. WTF? I han’t seen it because I stopped reading HuffPo several years ago when they started with the misleading, clickbait headlines. I’m glad I did.

Sure enough, very much in the style of Ginger Snapped, this asshole was sliming a dead cop killed in the line of duty who couldn’t defend himself, and doing it with shit he collected off the internet. UGH. ಠ_ಠ

The amoral bottom-feeders that the web & social media seem to have enticed out of their fetid hidey-holes is just… I don’t even have words for how much these people disgust me—it’s even worse that there are people who pay them to churn out this kind of filth. I went to check his Twitter handle so I could block him only to find out that I’d already done so. I guess I must’ve seen him tweet something asshole-ish previously.

Here’s the article—putting it behind a private tag because ick.

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Belafon Sep 5, 2016 • 10:58:24am

A late entry in the calculator flashback, but I had this in my science classes in 85-88, a Radio Shack EC-4013:

It had built in constants, and could do math with fractions. Also liked the fact that there were buttons on both sides, so the operations were spread out and the buttons were big. The one problem I have with the scientific calculators today is trying to get to the operation you want. “Which key sequence is it?”

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 10:58:56am

re: #313 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Remember When Eric Cantor Honored America’s Unsung Managerial Class on Labor Day?

Good times….

And Cantor was not right wing enough for his constituents.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 10:59:10am

re: #305 stpaulbear

Paul Kelly sings about some of his influences on the song Words and Music. This isn’t one of his most representative songs, but I love the whole Words and Music album. It was my first exposure to his music.

An acquaintance of ours is putting PK on as a house concert near Frankfurt on Thursday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 11:00:14am

re: #313 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Remember When Eric Cantor Honored America’s Unsung Managerial Class on Labor Day?

Because without Jerb Creatters, there would be no laborers!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 11:01:24am

re: #316 Ming5000

And Cantor was not right wing enough for his constituents.

(((Cantor))) had another problem that made him unpopular with many of the alt-right…

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 11:03:39am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I forgot about that. :-( That is still a thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 11:04:21am

re: #320 Ming5000

I forgot about that. :-( That is still a thing.

…and becoming more and more of a thing as the Trumpification of America continues apace

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stpaulbear Sep 5, 2016 • 11:04:27am

re: #310 jaunte

Oh man, the robot takeover is spreading.

~~Someone is~~ Republicans are unclear on the concept of labor day.

Edited myself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 11:05:32am

re: #322 stpaulbear

Someone is unclear on the concept of labor day.

We have a holiday for those guys, too, remember?

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Stanley Sea Sep 5, 2016 • 11:06:53am

I just read this whole thing - 7 parts.

Amazing story & so Orange County.

“I will get you”: The twisted tale of a power couple’s vengeance against a PTA momhttps://t.co/55LiOFUPWn pic.twitter.com/zkH4jvs5fK

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) September 1, 2016

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Belafon Sep 5, 2016 • 11:07:06am

re: #304 Pawn of the Oppressor

Hot-stuff whiz-bang latest-and-greatest consumer hardware might be great for playing Halo, but it won’t get you to the outer solar system…

It would, but that’s not how government contracts work. They design these things around technology available at the time of the request. It doesn’t matter how much things change between request time and build time, they are going to go with what was bid.

When I was in the Navy, I was assigned to the John C. Stennis while it was under construction. A new version of one of the major pieces of equipment was developed and was going to replace the old version. At the time we heard about it, the old version hadn’t even been installed. But the plans said the old version as to be installed, so it was, the ship was finished, and then old version was replaced with the new one.

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Barefoot Grin Sep 5, 2016 • 11:09:00am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

An acquaintance of ours is putting PK on as a house concert near Frankfurt on Thursday.

I wonder if he’ll play this

Every fucking city by Paul Kelly

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Ming5000 Sep 5, 2016 • 11:14:29am

re: #324 Stanley Sea

Just finished chapter 1 !!!

Good so far.

[edit] a real life who-done-it. Good police work.

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Skip Intro Sep 5, 2016 • 11:17:49am

Ivanka Trump: My dad is ‘absolutely not a sexist’ because he hired me to work for him

So there. Take that libs!

rawstory.com

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stpaulbear Sep 5, 2016 • 11:19:06am

re: #315 Belafon

A late entry in the calculator flashback, but I had this in my science classes in 85-88, a Radio Shack EC-4013:

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It had built in constants, and could do math with fractions. Also liked the fact that there were buttons on both sides, so the operations were spread out and the buttons were big. The one problem I have with the scientific calculators today is trying to get to the operation you want. “Which key sequence is it?”

I’m still using a great little Radio Shack calculator that I bought back then that can compute feet and inches. It doesn’t do anything beyond basic math and square roots, but it’s been incredibly useful at work. It functioned a lot better than the shitty Calculated Industries calculators that were available at that time.

Ha. I just went looking for my CI calculator and I found my original TI-35 instead. I’d forgotten that I had it. the battery still works.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 11:19:37am

re: #328 Skip Intro

Ivanka Trump: My dad is ‘absolutely not a sexist’ because he hired me to work for him

So there. Take that libs!

rawstory.com

And I am the greatest dad in the world!!! I have a refrigerator worth of testaments from my kids to prove it!!!

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BeachDem Sep 5, 2016 • 11:24:00am

Must be really hard to find guests to run their mouths on Labor Day. Here CNN relies on Jesse Benton to tout the “wall,” saying it will be paid for with tax credits and other magical financial tricks.

rawstory.com

Oh, and although they didn’t mention it in his introduction (of course), this is Jesse Benton, of Ron/Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell campaign fame, WHO WAS CONVICTED OF CONSPIRACY AND FALSE RECORDS CHARGES just 3 short months ago.

cnn.com

Great get, CNN.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 11:28:00am

re: #331 BeachDem

Must be really hard to find guests to run their mouths on Labor Day. Here CNN relies on Jesse Benton to tout the “wall,” saying it will be paid for with tax credits and other magical financial tricks.

Unless that wall is paid for in Pesos (or Narcodollars) we are not gonna let it stand!!!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 11:33:20am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless that wall is paid for in Pesos (or Narcodollars) we are not gonna let it stand!!!

I wonder where all those Jade Helm terrorists are spending the Ameros they get paid in? Never seen any in circulation.

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Pawn of the Oppressor Sep 5, 2016 • 11:34:43am

re: #324 Stanley Sea

I just read this whole thing - 7 parts.

Amazing story & so Orange County.

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So telling:

Cops have an informal phrase for such people, who do not quite meet the requirements of a 51-50, the code for an involuntary psychiatric hold. They are 51-49 1/2, vexing but hard to do anything about.

How many people in this country are 51-49 & 1/2, I wonder…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 11:39:17am

some people…

theres a live feed of a town square on yt with 1400+ WATCHING

NOBODY KNOWS WHY THEYRE HERE

THIS IS THE CHAT pic.twitter.com/9N0qI4ir2h

— beargenwerth (@bearrabutt) September 5, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 11:40:01am

re: #334 Pawn of the Oppressor

So telling:

How many people in this country are 51-49 & 1/2, I wonder…

All of them, Katie….///

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 11:40:32am

donald is so easily baited:

Pool: Trump has requested that the pool fly on his plane to Youngstown. (On same day Clinton got larger plane to fly with her press corps)

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) September 5, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 11:42:43am

Thanks to #MotherTeresa, millions died from a lack of modern medicine knowing that Jesus’s Mom is STILL a virgin! pic.twitter.com/DDPRljMVyA

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) September 4, 2016

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ObserverArt Sep 5, 2016 • 11:44:48am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

donald is so easily baited:

Zeke Miller ✔ @ZekeJMiller
Pool: Trump has requested that the pool fly on his plane to Youngstown. (On same day Clinton got larger plane to fly with her press corps)
1:30 PM - 5 Sep 2016
29 29 Retweets 28 28 likes

He has not gotten past the age of 12. Everything he does is so like a 12 year old rich kid still protected by a rich mommy and daddy.

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De Kolta Chair Sep 5, 2016 • 11:45:03am

Frankly, I see no downside to this

#Hillaryswheelchair This is how she plans on getting around if elected! pic.twitter.com/GLDISGSywr

— GIRLSFORTRUMP (@lbrot1) September 5, 2016

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BeachDem Sep 5, 2016 • 11:47:35am

Hunter explains it all, and well. An excerpt:

Before the Clinton Foundation, it was emails. Before the emails, it was Planned Parenthood. Before that, ACORN. Before that, Vince Foster. And the pattern, every damn time, is the same.

Fake story pushed by partisan hacks with no evidence—or fabricated evidence.

Fake story embraced by conservative politicians as if it were true.

National press picks up story because conservatives demand it be spoken of.

National press amplifies sensationalistic fake claims for months on end, even long, long after journalists not scheduled for interviews on the Sunday shows point out that the claims are vaporous at best, crooked at worst.

Everybody gets a nice pile of easy-to-analyze everyone else is talking about this content, pundits get to pundit, hemmers get to hem and hawers get to haw—and a large percentage of America comes away from their papers and the evening news believing a patently fraudulent thing.

It is not just common. It is, quite literally, Scandal by Script.

dailykos.com

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BigPapa Sep 5, 2016 • 11:50:04am

Great interview with Peter Brimelow on @AlanColmes radio - https://t.co/hW59VOHj3N pic.twitter.com/wvwg52X3bA

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) September 5, 2016

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 11:50:28am

re: #324 Stanley Sea

I read it. For someone like me it is almost nightmarish to live through something like that. I hope that never happens to me.

344

ObserverArt Sep 5, 2016 • 11:52:49am

Heh, I just saw on ESPN’s site Colin Kaepernick’s team jersey is the highest selling of all the 49ers team jerseys.

That kind of puts a crimp in the SanFran cops bitching about how wrong he is to make his stand on police violence.

It also shuts the team up and I wonder if they are forced to more or less keep him on the team as his fans seem to be siding with him. Dump him now and get ready for the blowback.

And then there is the money being made. We all know how important that is to NFL teams.

Can you say uncomfortable?

345

jaunte Sep 5, 2016 • 11:58:22am

re: #342 BigPapa

“If you don’t like immigrants telling you what to do” : the core statement of the invented problem.

346

ObserverArt Sep 5, 2016 • 11:58:32am

re: #341 BeachDem

Hunter explains it all, and well. An excerpt:

Before the Clinton Foundation, it was emails. Before the emails, it was Planned Parenthood. Before that, ACORN. Before that, Vince Foster. And the pattern, every damn time, is the same.

Fake story pushed by partisan hacks with no evidence—or fabricated evidence.

Fake story embraced by conservative politicians as if it were true.

National press picks up story because conservatives demand it be spoken of.

National press amplifies sensationalistic fake claims for months on end, even long, long after journalists not scheduled for interviews on the Sunday shows point out that the claims are vaporous at best, crooked at worst.

Everybody gets a nice pile of easy-to-analyze everyone else is talking about this content, pundits get to pundit, hemmers get to hem and hawers get to haw—and a large percentage of America comes away from their papers and the evening news believing a patently fraudulent thing.

It is not just common. It is, quite literally, Scandal by Script.

dailykos.com

BeachDem…do you or anyone else have anything to counter the Hillary “I can’t recall” comments she apparently made to the FBI in the investigation interviews? I see them being turned into Nixon and Reagan era dodges elsewhere.

I’ve been a little too busy to read up on what she said and what was meant by them.

347

BigPapa Sep 5, 2016 • 11:59:45am

re: #345 jaunte

“If you don’t like immigrants telling you what to do” : the core statement of the invented problem.

They show up, tell you what to do, BAM! Country gone. Just like that.

348

jaunte Sep 5, 2016 • 12:00:39pm

re: #347 BigPapa

“You must try this delicious taco!”

349

jaunte Sep 5, 2016 • 12:01:03pm

Peter Brimelow’s food nightmare.

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De Kolta Chair Sep 5, 2016 • 12:01:39pm

re: #342 BigPapa

Or was Becky intentionally being ironic?

351

William Lewis Sep 5, 2016 • 12:02:25pm

My father dropped off one of this years chickens the other day. I live alone so a whole chicken can be a bit much, yet it’s wonderful excuse to stuff and roast a bird. Guess I know what I’ll be eating for suppers this week :D

Sage dressing with bread cubes, raisin, walnut, carrot, celery, mushrooms and sliced ripe olives. A few small fresh potatoes in the extra stuffing surrounding the bird.

Let’s see how big it is - dad has them commercially done these days (at 75 he has better things to do than swing the ax and pluck a dozen chickens) so there’s a label. Yikes! 8.5 pound bird? That’s nearly a freaking turkey! Ok, 3 hours of roasting at 350 after 15 minutes at 450 to crisp up the olive oiled skin.

Should be a nice dinner.

352

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 5, 2016 • 12:07:10pm

OT - In scanning ebay for watches, I saw this:

Antique Elgin 14K Soild Gold, Diamond, Ladies’ Hunting Case Watch, NICE!!!

Soild gold? Eeeeeww!!!!

353

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 12:08:50pm

re: #352 Blind Frog Belly White

OT - In scanning ebay for watches, I saw this:

Soild gold? Eeeeeww!!!!

You buy it with filthy lucre.

354

BigPapa Sep 5, 2016 • 12:10:08pm

re: #348 jaunte

“You must try this delicious taco!”

They show up, tell you what to eat, BAM! Delicious food.

355

sagehen Sep 5, 2016 • 12:13:04pm

re: #346 ObserverArt

BeachDem…do you or anyone else have anything to counter the Hillary “I can’t recall” comments she apparently made to the FBI in the investigation interviews? I see them being turned into Nixon and Reagan era dodges elsewhere.

I’ve been a little too busy to read up on what she said and what was meant by them.

How much detail do you remember about a dozen out of thousands of e-mails from a couple of years ago? In the meantime, you’ve dealt with a couple of wars, a nuclear agreement to avoid a war, trade deals on three continents, planning your daughter’s wedding and preparing for a presidential campaign?

Trivia is trivia.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump doesn’t remember calling women pigs and dogs, doesn’t remember if he’s ever met Vladimir Putin, doesn’t remember if he ever met the journalist whose disability he imitated, doesn’t remember a tax-avoiding investment firm he worked with on a dozen projects, doesn’t remember the mob guys who helped him with concrete purchases and union negotiations, and doesn’t remember saying he had the world’s best memory.

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PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 12:13:23pm

Just got one of those no name city only calls. I looked it up on Find Who Calls You and left a comment. I refreshed it and the number of searches is going up every time I refresh it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 12:15:30pm

re: #341 BeachDem

Hunter explains it all, and well. An excerpt:

Before the Clinton Foundation, it was emails. Before the emails, it was Planned Parenthood. Before that, ACORN. Before that, Vince Foster. And the pattern, every damn time, is the same.

Fake story pushed by partisan hacks with no evidence—or fabricated evidence.

Fake story embraced by conservative politicians as if it were true.

National press picks up story because conservatives demand it be spoken of.

National press amplifies sensationalistic fake claims for months on end, even long, long after journalists not scheduled for interviews on the Sunday shows point out that the claims are vaporous at best, crooked at worst.

Breitbart perfected it to a T, as in Trump…

358

BeachDem Sep 5, 2016 • 12:20:08pm

re: #346 ObserverArt

BeachDem…do you or anyone else have anything to counter the Hillary “I can’t recall” comments she apparently made to the FBI in the investigation interviews? I see them being turned into Nixon and Reagan era dodges elsewhere.

I’ve been a little too busy to read up on what she said and what was meant by them.

Most of the sites making a big deal out of the “I don’t recall”s are typical right wing mouth-breathers.

The quote the Trumpenstein’s are hanging their “Hillary is mentally deficient” hats on is:

“However, in December of 2012, Clinton suffered a concussion and then around the New Year had a blood clot (in her head). Based on her doctor’s advice, she could only work at State for a few hours a day and could not recall every briefing she received.”
kevin Drum
motherjones.com

I think the best, most complete analysis is this one by

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Belafon Sep 5, 2016 • 12:21:20pm

The annoying thing about the FBI reports is that the pdf downloads are images, which means they are unsearchable. I was hoping to find an answer to ObserverArt’s question, but I’m not going to read the entire report.

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Patricia Kayden Sep 5, 2016 • 12:27:42pm

re: #331 BeachDem

I thought Trump promised us that Mexico would pay for the wall. Now we the taxpayers will pay for the wall? Why doesn’t Billionaire Trump pay for it instead of shifting the burden to the American people?

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Patricia Kayden Sep 5, 2016 • 12:31:21pm

re: #355 sagehen

That’s exactly how I feel. So what if she doesn’t remember every single discussion she’s ever had about any particular matter? That’s a ridiculously high standard for any human being.

362

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 12:31:41pm

re: #360 Patricia Kayden

I thought Trump promised us that Mexico would pay for the wall. Now we the taxpayers will pay for the wall? Why doesn’t Billionaire Trump pay for it instead of shifting the burden to the American people?

Since they’re so big on “users’ fees” I can’t believe they haven’t thought of the obvious solution: toll gates. Pay off that puppy in no time!

363

PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 12:33:18pm

OT Charles I just re-subscribed for another year. With all of the messed up messages I had last year could you please check to see if the payment went through. Thanks.

364

Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 12:35:18pm

Clinton gets a bad coughing fit at the start of her event in Cleveland. “Every time I think about Trump, I think I’m allergic,” she quips.

— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) September 5, 2016

365

geosherman Sep 5, 2016 • 12:36:08pm

Scarlet Beeblossom Oenothera suffrutescens found at Pt. Mugu State Park

A little beauty to brighten your day….

366

PhillyPretzel Sep 5, 2016 • 12:36:47pm

I just checked under my account and there is an updated message. So it looks like I am good for another year. Thanks. :)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 12:37:38pm

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yannow, I don’t remember this physical fitness standard for Presidents before Bill Clinton’s jogging style seemed to meet with general disapproval.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Sep 5, 2016 • 12:49:32pm

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clinton gets a bad coughing fit at the start of her event in Cleveland. “Every time I think about Trump, I think I’m allergic,” she quips.

if she’s allergic to Trump, how’s she possibly gonna be able to meet with Putin without coughing up her lungs?!?

369

Snarknado! Sep 5, 2016 • 12:49:39pm

re: #351 William Lewis

My father dropped off one of this years chickens the other day. I live alone so a whole chicken can be a bit much, yet it’s wonderful excuse to stuff and roast a bird. Guess I know what I’ll be eating for suppers this week :D

Sage dressing with bread cubes, raisin, walnut, carrot, celery, mushrooms and sliced ripe olives. A few small fresh potatoes in the extra stuffing surrounding the bird.

Let’s see how big it is - dad has them commercially done these days (at 75 he has better things to do than swing the ax and pluck a dozen chickens) so there’s a label. Yikes! 8.5 pound bird? That’s nearly a freaking turkey! Ok, 3 hours of roasting at 350 after 15 minutes at 450 to crisp up the olive oiled skin.

Should be a nice dinner.

Roast chicken freezes well. After it’s done (and cooled down a bit), halve it and freeze one half for later. (Freeze the stuffing separately. )

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BeachDem Sep 5, 2016 • 12:53:19pm

Just wanted to point out, since it’s Labor Day and all, that one of the biggest supporters and activist organizations for Living Wage action was ACORN. Just another reason the Right Wing wanted to deep six them. (And shame on the Dems for not standing up for ACORN.)

371

Romantic Heretic Sep 5, 2016 • 12:54:12pm

re: #296 Skip Intro

Something about that man’s use of punctuation makes me doubt his mental stability.

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William Lewis Sep 5, 2016 • 12:54:32pm

re: #369 Snarknado!

Good tip. Thank you!
I also left a voice mail with my Ex inviting her over to share in the bounty.

373

Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 12:55:59pm

#LaborDay Reminder: Undocumented immigrants didn’t steal your job and then get amnesty. You’re thinking of bankers. pic.twitter.com/dGtQ6aio5c

— The Baxter Bean (@TheBaxterBean) September 5, 2016

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gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 12:59:26pm

Good one! pic.twitter.com/f6rbbHQuF7

— Sandy Phillips (@MamaRedfield) September 5, 2016

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 1:00:03pm

A purple-haired grandma lives in a tree house. Now she’s told it has to come down

Tropical Tree House built by Mother of Three

376

Skip Intro Sep 5, 2016 • 1:03:35pm

The most disappointing thing I learned yesterday was that Ann Coulter was not eaten by a shark in Sharknado 3.

I had been mis-informed.

377

Romantic Heretic Sep 5, 2016 • 1:04:20pm

re: #304 Pawn of the Oppressor

My first computer was an Apple II. Serial # 1871.

Paid for the 48K version plus extra for a TV/monitor that would plug straight into it without the need for an RF modulator.

Lasted me over ten years.

Then got a second hand512K Mac. that lasted another ten.

Now I trade up about every five years. Moore’s Law is so annoying.

378

Romantic Heretic Sep 5, 2016 • 1:06:18pm

re: #310 jaunte

Man, talk about missing the point.

Aren’t the GOP all about suspending the right to assemble freely when It comes to unions?

379

gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 1:06:54pm

Happy Labor Day! pic.twitter.com/a7ns8iCknQ

— Mike Tunison (@xmasape) September 5, 2016

380

Romantic Heretic Sep 5, 2016 • 1:08:13pm

re: #316 Ming5000

And Cantor was not ~~right wing~~ barbarian enough for his constituents.

FTFY.

381

Timothy Watson Sep 5, 2016 • 1:08:46pm

re: #379 gocart mozart

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The Trumps really are a less classy and successful version of the Underwoods

House of cards Freddy VS president fight

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 1:09:38pm

re: #377 Romantic Heretic

My first computer was an Apple II. Serial # 1871.

Paid for the 48K version plus extra for a TV/monitor that would plug straight into it without the need for an RF modulator.

Lasted me over ten years.

Then got a second hand512K Mac. that lasted another ten.

Now I trade up about every five years. Moore’s Law is so annoying.

I went straight from Tiger to Yosemite. My advice—don’t skip six versions. Now “macOS” Sierra will abandon my old polycarbonate MacBook. Sigh.

383

gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 1:10:41pm

Law and Order? Trump’s own father was arrested at a KKK RALLY for ATTACKING POLICE OFFICERS: https://t.co/762aDQlion pic.twitter.com/dSBHFUKEP4

— Jack Calvert (@mrJackCalvert) September 5, 2016

384

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 5, 2016 • 1:18:42pm

Damn! There’s a Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency series coming on BBC America in October.

385

Nojay UK Sep 5, 2016 • 1:36:55pm

My first computer was one I built from a kit back in 1978, a Science of Cambridge Mk 14. It has 128 bytes of RAM and 512 bytes of ROM, programmed in hex from a rubber keypad. I still have it and it still works although it’s not original as I added a keyboard made from pushbuttons to it later.

My first electronic calculator was one I built from a kit back in 1974, a Sinclair Scientific. I lost it, unfortunately. I have a few slide rules kicking about but my oldest calculating device is a set of Napier’s Bones. I’ve got five-place logarithms in an old copy of the Rubber Bible.

386

gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 1:37:46pm

If your grandfather wasn’t rich. pic.twitter.com/VYzObbcbYg

— Pin Head (@PiercedSkull) September 4, 2016

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 1:39:57pm

re: #340 De Kolta Chair

Frankly, I see no downside to this

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mr. bean:

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makeitstop Sep 5, 2016 • 1:41:51pm

re: #324 Stanley Sea

I just read this whole thing - 7 parts.

Amazing story & so Orange County.

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That’s a crazy story!

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 1:41:57pm

re: #362 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Since they’re so big on “users’ fees” I can’t believe they haven’t thought of the obvious solution: toll gates. Pay off that puppy in no time!

george carlin sometime in the 70’s:
“put them welfare people to work filling in the bering strait, then charge the indians a buck a head to go home. …. a good sound business solution”

390

gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 1:42:06pm

#LaborDay Reminder: Undocumented immigrants didn’t steal your job and then get amnesty. You’re thinking of bankers. pic.twitter.com/dGtQ6aio5c

— The Baxter Bean (@TheBaxterBean) September 5, 2016

391

TedStriker Sep 5, 2016 • 1:47:41pm

re: #389 dangerman

george carlin sometime in the 70’s:
“put them welfare people to work filling in the bering strait, then charge the indians a buck a head to go home. …. a good sound business solution”

That was from Class Clown (which also includes his riff on Muhammad Ali and “the seven words you can never say on television’):

George Carlin - Class Clown

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William Lewis Sep 5, 2016 • 1:49:45pm

re: #386 gocart mozart

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I doubt they’d last a week. Even Walfart has standards.

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wrenchwench Sep 5, 2016 • 1:50:37pm

Two speed kickback hub: working. The first time I reassembled it, it didn’t work, so I took it back apart to see what was wrong. Second time I got it.

While it was apart, a guy showed interest in the other bike I have with a two speed kickback hub. I dropped the price and he took it. YAY! I don’t have to overhaul another one!

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dangerman Sep 5, 2016 • 1:51:04pm

re: #391 TedStriker

That was from Class Clown (which also includes his riff on Muhammad Ali and “the seven words you can never say on television’):

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that’s right.
i can recite almost every word of that, as well as robert kleins’ mind over matter, and the firesign theater’s dont crush that dwarf hand me the pliers

musta listened to each one over a hundred times

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TedStriker Sep 5, 2016 • 1:52:40pm

re: #394 dangerman

that’s right.
i can recite almost every word of that, as well as robert kleins’ mind over matter, and the firesign theater’s dont crush that dwarf hand me the pliers

musta listened to each one over a hundred times

Class Clown is the only Carlin set I’ve listened all the way through over the years and I’ve played it many, many times; I know pretty much all of it by heart.

396

Belafon Sep 5, 2016 • 1:53:16pm

re: #340 De Kolta Chair

Frankly, I see no downside to this

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Charles Xavier was confined to a wheelchair.

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Belafon Sep 5, 2016 • 1:55:27pm

Oh, and do they think Greg Abbott shouldn’t be governor? I don’t, but it’s definitely not because of his wheelchair.

398

Shiplord Kirel Sep 5, 2016 • 2:01:52pm

Noteworthy: A fair number of 1956 GOP voters are still around and still voting. Unfortunately, too many of them will have had their memories dimmed by age and corroded by Fox News.

399

Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 2:04:00pm

Just In: @POTUS cancels mtg w Philippines Pres Duterte after leader called him ‘son of a whore.’ Per @carolelee rpt. pic.twitter.com/02COoyRc2v

— Kate Bennett (@KateBennett_DC) September 5, 2016

400

Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 2:05:32pm

Unions stand up for workers who need someone to have their backs. We need a president who will do the same. pic.twitter.com/0OpO5kCyyg

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) September 5, 2016

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Belafon Sep 5, 2016 • 2:05:53pm

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I don’t care what you say about me, but don’t say anything bad about my mother.”

402

gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 2:07:38pm

You’re a victim… pic.twitter.com/BEelkznWrv

— banksy (@thereaIbanksy) August 29, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 2:08:25pm

Sadly, Huckster really thinks this is just oh so funny…

Press allowed on Hillary’s new plane, but are bound, gagged, and riding in cargo compartment unless they contribute to Clinton Foundation.

— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) September 5, 2016

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gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 2:08:40pm

This is our society. pic.twitter.com/y6yHidx68S

— banksy (@thereaIbanksy) August 23, 2016

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gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 2:09:22pm

#ClosingCeremony pic.twitter.com/Cz0eo2saVF

— banksy (@thereaIbanksy) August 22, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 5, 2016 • 2:10:05pm

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sadly, Huckster really thinks this is just oh so funny…

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What did Trump force YOU to sign before hiring your daughter? @GovMikeHuckabee

— justa farmer (@justafarmer4) September 5, 2016

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gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 2:10:15pm

pic.twitter.com/fyQKPOkiZH

— banksy (@thereaIbanksy) August 22, 2016

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gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 2:11:48pm

Not once but twice. pic.twitter.com/aaKoV7aFyX

— The Best Gifs (@giftwou) September 2, 2016

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gocart mozart Sep 5, 2016 • 2:22:46pm

Changing bikes mid air. pic.twitter.com/1dgw7cQtw7

— The Best Gifs (@giftwou) August 11, 2016

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Decatur Deb Sep 5, 2016 • 2:33:43pm

re: #402 gocart mozart

You’re a victim… pic.twitter.com/lBTTTANfjz

— Pics With a Story (@RealTouchingPic) August 27, 2016

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.

Redemption song - Playing For Change Song around the World | with lyrics / Legendado HD

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Ziggy_TARDIS Sep 5, 2016 • 2:39:03pm

re: #341 BeachDem

That’s why I am scared about the election. Krugman made this point.

[Can’t find this tweet right now.]

media in this country don’t care about anything other than advertising dollars. Hell, the media probably thinks people getting killed is a good thing, as more eyeballs watching the TV means more money.

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sagehen Sep 5, 2016 • 3:00:43pm

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Donald Trump wouldn’t be just cancel a meeting for such an insult, he’d be lobbing missiles. Weak! Sad!

Spy Auto

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