Today's Email From a Donald Trump Supporter

Today’s Email From a Donald Trump Supporter

From “OBOZTHECLOWN”

WingnutsSeptember 2016 • Views: 36,200

I haven’t done one of these hate mail posts in a while, not because the hate mail has stopped, but because it’s usually just the same old tiresome insults. But today I got one that seemed extraordinarily deranged… and that’s always good for a laugh, if you’re a connoisseur of right wing derp like I am.

This guy (has to be a guy) is apparently in Ontario, Canada, and used a (probably fake) email address “OBOZTHECLOWN@AOL.COM,” with the never-gets-old subject, “libtard clown.” He set his caps lock key on STUN and bashed out:

DO YOU HAVE YOUR BARRY THE BROWN CLOWN BLOW UP DOLL FOR YOU & YOUR CHILDREN TO USE TONIGHT YOU LEFT WING POS

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER

I TAKE ON YOU CUCKOLD LIBTARDS ANYWHERE ANY PLACE YOU POS

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Sir John Barron Sep 7, 2016 • 1:38:08pm

DO YOU HAVE YOUR BARRY THE BROWN CLOWN BLOW UP DOLL FOR YOU & YOUR CHILDREN TO USE TONIGHT YOU LEFT WING POS
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER

I TAKE ON YOU CUCKOLD LIBTARDS ANYWHERE ANY PLACE YOU POS

It combines some key elements of the totally deranged, such as the ALL CAPS, along with a sexual fixation, and the required use of the new best word in all the world—cuckold.

Bubblehead II Sep 7, 2016 • 1:38:40pm

Pretty lame imho

scottslemmons Sep 7, 2016 • 1:41:07pm

That guy sounds dumb.

Did you tell him Obama says not to gargle with bleach? Obama will be so mad if that guy gargles with bleach.

Ziggy_TARDIS Sep 7, 2016 • 1:41:38pm

Saudi apparently just said that Iranians aren’t Muslims.

“We have to understand that they are not Muslims … Their main enemies are the followers of Sunnah (Sunnis),” Al al-Sheikh was quoted as saying, remarks republished by the Arab News.

I would argue, through their actions and words, that the Wahhabis and Salafis are deviations away from Islam.

Sir John Barron Sep 7, 2016 • 1:43:25pm

The faux macho challenge to dual is a plus, although I think the writer’s reference to Obama (Barry) seems already out of date. Doesn’t this Troubled Heart realize that Hillary is now the prime threat to American existence? After all, Barry failed to follow through on the promises to confiscate all guns, lock rwnj in FEMA camps, etc.

trog69 Sep 7, 2016 • 1:43:51pm

re: #3 scottslemmons

That guy sounds dumb.

Did you tell him Obama says not to gargle with bleach? Obama will be so mad if that guy gargles with bleach.

Don’t forget to tell him about how mad Obama gets when he hears that conservatives quit their jobs and become go-go dancers for oil-rig workers.

ObserverArt Sep 7, 2016 • 1:44:16pm

Wow. Just got through the previous thread.

I’m thinking the Pope is wondering how the Catholic Church can get the following Apple has with their phones and stuff.

I almost felt like I had to be on my knees to read it all.

Amen!

: )

Ziggy_TARDIS Sep 7, 2016 • 1:45:56pm

re: #7 ObserverArt

Apple is a cult.

I know, because Doctor Who has been described as a religion/cult before, and Apple fans are even more extreme than we are.

gwangung Sep 7, 2016 • 1:47:07pm

re: #8 Ziggy_TARDIS

Apple is a cult.

I know, because Doctor Who has been described as a religion/cult before, and Apple fans are even more extreme than we are.

Hey! I resemble that remark!

Ziggy_TARDIS Sep 7, 2016 • 1:49:35pm

re: #9 gwangung

That’s your problem, not mine.

Doctor Who does good in the world. Apple just makes over-priced status objects that other places make better.

S'latch Sep 7, 2016 • 1:50:11pm

I had to ponder the “Barry the Brown Clown” a little while before I came up with something. I am guessing that this name is what he likes to call President Obama. So, it is basically a racist slur.

Great White Snark Sep 7, 2016 • 1:50:12pm

Thanos Sep 7, 2016 • 1:52:59pm

I wonder how many average Americans (including our goldbricking press) know how much of the Alt-Right’s support comes from out of country?

HappyWarrior Sep 7, 2016 • 2:04:12pm

He sounds nice. Must suck to be him and it’s going to really suck to be him when Trump loses in November.

HappyWarrior Sep 7, 2016 • 2:05:20pm

re: #13 Thanos

I wonder how many average Americans (including our goldbricking press) know how much of the Alt-Right’s support comes from out of country?

Very little I imagine.

piratedan Sep 7, 2016 • 2:05:53pm

is unsure here, does this mean that as a blog we’re fucking his wife or is he getting it on with Ms. Footballs… I haz a confuzzled….

ObserverArt Sep 7, 2016 • 2:07:19pm

re: #13 Thanos

I wonder how many average Americans (including our goldbricking press) know how much of the Alt-Right’s support comes from out of country?

Ahhh. So, that is why Trump is unfamiliar with the whole movement.

HappyWarrior Sep 7, 2016 • 2:07:30pm

It amazes me how many right wingers think that they’re tough shit when they support people like Trump who frankly are some of the biggest fucking wimps you’ll ever encounter.

Thanos Sep 7, 2016 • 2:09:06pm

OT: I just noticed that they mentioned Cornelius Van Lunt in the first season of Daredevil. Van Lunt was Taurus and started the Zodiac in Marvel comics, and interestingly another version of the Zodiac battled The Defenders for a series of issues in the 80’s,…

makeitstop Sep 7, 2016 • 2:09:10pm

OT: Natalie Merchant does without a doubt the worst cover version of Bowie’s ‘Space Oddity’ I’ve ever heard.

She drains it of every bit of suspense and drama, sings it like she’s reading a grocery list.

Thanos Sep 7, 2016 • 2:10:31pm

re: #17 ObserverArt

Ahhh. So, that is why Trump is unfamiliar with the whole movement.

No, actually the overseas alt righters are tightly tied to ours, they know exactly who Trump is, that’s why they are supporting him. They recognize a fascist tribal nationalist when they see one.

ExpatGirl Sep 7, 2016 • 2:12:00pm

A libtard I may be. But a cuckold? Nope. Not me.

HappyWarrior Sep 7, 2016 • 2:12:12pm

It honestly is scary to think that a Trump like candidate could succeed with more polish. I’m hoping a Trump defeat ends these fascist fucks once and for all but I expect they’ll be ready for another round in 2018 and beyond. It is vital that Trump be defeated.

ObserverArt Sep 7, 2016 • 2:12:35pm

re: #20 makeitstop

OT: Natalie Merchant does without a doubt the worst cover version of Bowie’s ‘Space Oddity’ I’ve ever heard.

She drains it of every bit of suspense and drama, sings it like she’s reading a grocery list.

So bad you didn’t put in a YouTube or Soundcloud link.

makeitstop Sep 7, 2016 • 2:14:24pm

re: #24 ObserverArt

So bad you didn’t put in a YouTube or Soundcloud link.

I don’t want to subject anyone to it! She just sounds so bored.

Jay C Sep 7, 2016 • 2:18:21pm

re: #1 Sir John Barron

It combines some key elements of the totally deranged, such as the ALL CAPS, along with a sexual fixation, and the required use of the new best word in all the world—cuckold.

Also: no real argument whatsoever: just a string of childish insults mainly copped from the Internet. In all, a perfect Trump campaign speech….

Shiplord Kirel Sep 7, 2016 • 2:20:32pm

I was hoping for a rich harvest of bitter wingnut tears from the Dallas Morning News defection, but so far the reaction has been rather muted. Freep has just a single string on the story, with only 25 responses. Most of the commenters seem to dismiss the DMN as just another lib rag, apparently unaware of its long history as the unofficial voice of the ultra-conservative Dallas billionaire club. A few of the more perceptive freepers blame the defection on the diabolical machinations of the accursed RINO Ted Cruz. They could be right for all I know.

Charles Johnson Sep 7, 2016 • 2:21:11pm

re: #8 Ziggy_TARDIS

Apple is a cult.

I know, because Doctor Who has been described as a religion/cult before, and Apple fans are even more extreme than we are.

To be honest, rabid Apple-haters seem much more like a cult to me. I have no particular emotional attachment to gadgets - I just want them to work. I always try to get the best quality tools for whatever job I’m doing, and I’ve found through many years of experience with computer hardware that Apple’s gear is almost always better engineered and more long-lasting than any equivalents. Yes, it’s also more expensive, usually, but the best tools always are.

That’s what’s important to me. If Apple started failing to meet those standards, I’d move on to something better, if it existed. Fuck this “cult” bullshit. I’m no “cultist.”

darthstar Sep 7, 2016 • 2:21:26pm

That sounds like it was written by the rage furby.

darthstar Sep 7, 2016 • 2:23:43pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

I don’t hate Apples. The OSX is actually quite nice and has all the functionality of Linux (because it basically is). I would even consider their phones if they adopted mini-USB like the rest of the mobile device community…okay, I like my Android worry free platform so forget that last line, but I’m not a hater. Ain’t no time to hate, barely time to wait.

Shiplord Kirel Sep 7, 2016 • 2:24:54pm

Even SMOTI has not weighed in on the Morning News endorsement. He does, however, blame the Jurupa, California leprosy outbreak on Obama so his title is not in danger. Obama’s America: Parents Warned Elementary School Has Leprosy Outbreak

danarchy Sep 7, 2016 • 2:26:45pm

re: #30 darthstar

I don’t hate Apples. The OSX is actually quite nice and has all the functionality of Linux (because it basically is). I would even consider their phones if they adopted mini-USB like the rest of the mobile device community…okay, I like my Android worry free platform so forget that last line, but I’m not a hater. Ain’t no time to hate, barely time to wait.

Oh man you are going to piss off the FreeBSD people something fierce with that ;)

retired cynic Sep 7, 2016 • 2:28:00pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Ditto!

I don’t upgrade immediately on anything. I wait for things to shake out, and see how they go. If my iPhone 6 quits soon, I’ll get another one. No prob.

Charles Johnson Sep 7, 2016 • 2:28:13pm

re: #30 darthstar

I don’t hate Apples. The OSX is actually quite nice and has all the functionality of Linux (because it basically is). I would even consider their phones if they adopted mini-USB like the rest of the mobile device community…okay, I like my Android worry free platform so forget that last line, but I’m not a hater. Ain’t no time to hate, barely time to wait.

I don’t think it’s really accurate any more to say Mac OS is basically Linux. It definitely began as an offshoot of the BSD kernel, with NextStep running on top, but it’s gone far beyond those roots at this point.

retired cynic Sep 7, 2016 • 2:28:52pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel

Even SMOTI has not weighed in on the Morning News endorsement. He does, however, blame the Jurupa, California leprosy outbreak on Obama so his title is not in danger. Obama’s America: Parents Warned Elementary School Has Leprosy Outbreak

Seriously????

Great White Snark Sep 7, 2016 • 2:32:27pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

…That’s what’s important to me. If Apple started failing to meet those standards, I’d move on to something better, if it existed. Fuck this “cult” bullshit. I’m no “cultist.”

Absolutely, performance be our guide. People think I don’t like Nikon ‘cause I have gone to Canon in the digital era. But do you remember those condescending anti PC ads they ran? Kinda asked for it.

Shiplord Kirel Sep 7, 2016 • 2:33:11pm

re: #35 retired cynic

Seriously????

For real. True to form, SMOTI just re-posted the local news story, with no explanation of why he thinks this is Obama’s fault. The two children involved have not been identified but my guess would be that SMOTI and his fellow morons are assuming that rural California and dread disease would mean ill-eagles let in by Obama’s pro-ISIS border policies. Or something.

darthstar Sep 7, 2016 • 2:33:27pm

25 Reasons to vote for Trump

HappyWarrior Sep 7, 2016 • 2:33:28pm

I use PC and Windows products for my larger computing devices i.e. the PC I’m typing this on and the laptop I use when I’ve taken classes or have been on the go. I do like Apple’s handheld devices though. the iPhone has been a good phone for me and I still love my iPod.

Bubblehead II Sep 7, 2016 • 2:34:04pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

To be honest, rabid Apple-haters seem much more like a cult to me. I have no particular emotional attachment to gadgets - I just want them to work. I always try to get the best quality tools for whatever job I’m doing, and I’ve found through many years of experience with computer hardware that Apple’s gear is almost always better engineered and more long-lasting than any equivalents. Yes, it’s also more expensive, usually, but the best tools always are.

That’s what’s important to me. If Apple started failing to meet those standards, I’d move on to something better, if it existed. Fuck this “cult” bullshit. I’m no “cultist.”

The only reason I didn’t like Apple was that when I first started building my own PCs was that all their peripherals were proprietary. You could not get an after market device from anybody else. Maybe this has changed maybe not. I just didn’t like being tied to one manufacture for my equipment.

HappyWarrior Sep 7, 2016 • 2:34:32pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel

Even SMOTI has not weighed in on the Morning News endorsement. He does, however, blame the Jurupa, California leprosy outbreak on Obama so his title is not in danger. Obama’s America: Parents Warned Elementary School Has Leprosy Outbreak

I forget which is the party with the nominee that opposes mandatory vaccinations. Yep, it’s all Obama’s fault.

makeitstop Sep 7, 2016 • 2:34:37pm

re: #35 retired cynic

Seriously????

The non-lunatic interpretation: Two possible cases of leprosy reported at Riverside County elementary school

Funny how the word ‘possible’ disappears and it becomes an ‘outbreak’ in SMOTI-land.

Other wingnut blogs have got the story too, and they all seem to be blaming Obama for it. Like he ran over to the school and shot the kids up with the virus himself. Gah.

HappyWarrior Sep 7, 2016 • 2:36:24pm

re: #42 makeitstop

The non-lunatic interpretation: Two possible cases of leprosy reported at Riverside County elementary school

Funny how the word ‘possible’ disappears and it becomes an ‘outbreak’ in SMOTI-land.

Other wingnut blogs have got the story too, and they all seem to be blaming Obama for it. Like he ran over to the school and shot the kids up with the virus himself. Gah.

But yet they freak out when you point out the cavalier attitude of the executive branch in the 1980’s during the AIDS epidemic.

Jay C Sep 7, 2016 • 2:38:00pm

re: #35 retired cynic

Seriously????

Yeah, apparently the supposed cases in Riverside CA are a real thing (or at least the scare thereof) - of course, I checked; I wouldn’t take Jim Hoft’s word on it for the color of the sky - but the gratuitous gibberish about Obama is just his usual BS.

Leprosy, though? I thought Hansen’s had joined smallpox in the “former disease” category years ago…

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 7, 2016 • 2:41:00pm

re: #4 Ziggy_TARDIS

Saudi apparently just said that Iranians aren’t Muslims.

I would argue, through their actions and words, that the Wahhabis and Salafis are deviations away from Islam.

Which is largely the argument the Wahabis make about Shiites, isn’t it?

Dave In Austin Sep 7, 2016 • 2:41:27pm

Finally got some maxi’s to grow out behind the garage.

After 8 years, Finally got some Maxi’s to grow. Maximilian Sunflower. One of my Texas favorites. pic.twitter.com/xdUjzVQnXy

— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) September 7, 2016

Thanos Sep 7, 2016 • 2:42:30pm

I’m not surprised regarding the playing up of disease outbreaks in the news. They will blame Obama because Immigration!

Hence the need for Trump, hence the need for a wall. It’s part of the Xenophobe bigot playbook.

electrotek Sep 7, 2016 • 2:44:13pm

You know, for a group of people that often rail against political correctness and accuse Muslims of being thin-skinned, they sure do engage in childish tantrums anytime when Trump Fuhrer is criticized.

danarchy Sep 7, 2016 • 2:44:16pm

I am pretty tech agnostic, I like to use the right tool for the job. I will give both praise and condemnation to any tech company as deserved. The problem is as soon as you criticize any apple product you are immediately deluged by knee jerk apple supporters.

Apple has knocked a lot of things out of the park, they have also made some serious blunders.

Too often they choose aesthetic over function. I thought the magic mouse was really cool until the first time the battery died on me and I realized since the usb port is on the bottom you can’t just plug it in and keep working. The whole push to wireless everything will compound that sort of thing, because wireless devices rely on users remembering to charge them.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 7, 2016 • 2:44:34pm

re: #44 Jay C

Yeah, apparently the supposed cases in Riverside CA are a real thing (or at least the scare thereof) - of course, I checked; I wouldn’t take Jim Hoft’s word on it for the color of the sky - but the gratuitous gibberish about Obama is just his usual BS.

Leprosy, though? I thought Hansen’s had joined smallpox in the “former disease” category years ago…

They still treat it with Thalidomide? That ought to get the anti-Pharma moonbats’ knickers in a twist, too.

electrotek Sep 7, 2016 • 2:45:00pm

re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White

Which is largely the argument the Wahabis make about Shiites, isn’t it?

Not just Wahabis/Salafis, but also Deobandis and Barelwis (to a lesser extent) in the Indian subcontinent.

Thanos Sep 7, 2016 • 2:45:29pm

re: #44 Jay C

Yeah, apparently the supposed cases in Riverside CA are a real thing (or at least the scare thereof) - of course, I checked; I wouldn’t take Jim Hoft’s word on it for the color of the sky - but the gratuitous gibberish about Obama is just his usual BS.

Leprosy, though? I thought Hansen’s had joined smallpox in the “former disease” category years ago…

There are ~100 cases per year, most in the SW & Hawaii, Asia and Africa still have lots of it around. It’s curable.

Shiplord Kirel Sep 7, 2016 • 2:45:51pm

re: #47 Thanos

I’m not surprised regarding the playing up of disease outbreaks in the news. They will blame Obama because Immigration!

Hence the need for Trump, hence the need for a wall. It’s part of the Xenophobe bigot playbook.

Everything the SMOTI audience knows about “leprosy” comes from the Bible, which was written in the Middle East. It is therefore a Middle Eastern disease and was obviously brought in by Obama-sponsored ISIS infiltrators.

Thanos Sep 7, 2016 • 2:46:31pm

re: #50 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They still treat it with Thalidomide? That ought to get the anti-Pharma moonbats’ knickers in a twist, too.

It’s treated with antibiotics and steroids usually.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 7, 2016 • 2:48:02pm

re: #54 Thanos

It’s treated with antibiotics and steroids usually.

I am not a doctor, but I got that from a guy who played one on TV….

FormerDirtDart Sep 7, 2016 • 2:48:52pm

@AlecMacGillis I recommend the use of “you fuckers”.
As even those not yet actual “fuckers” most likely hope to be a “fucker” some day

— WB Young (@FormerDirtDart) September 7, 2016

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 7, 2016 • 2:49:00pm

re: #51 electrotek

Not just Wahabis/Salafis, but also Deobandis and Barelwis (to a lesser extent) in the Indian subcontinent.

Or Catholics v Protestants, Protestants v Catholics, Protestants and Catholics v Anabaptists, etc.

Like Emo Philips’ joke:

Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!” He said, “Nobody loves me.” I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?”

He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too! What franchise?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!”

Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.”

I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over.

Thanos Sep 7, 2016 • 2:49:07pm

re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White

Which is largely the argument the Wahabis make about Shiites, isn’t it?

This is all because Iran is going after the Saudis for last year’s Haj stampedes.

Brian J. Sep 7, 2016 • 2:50:23pm

re: #52 Thanos

There are ~100 cases per year, most in the SW & Hawaii, Asia and Africa still have lots of it around. It’s curable.

And a plurality of new US cases are diagnosed in white people.

(alpuz) Sep 7, 2016 • 2:51:06pm

re: #40 Bubblehead II

Nah… it’s gotten worse. I’ve been using Mac(started w/ a Power Computing clone) my whole life. I recently had to switch to Windows due to a new job. I like Apple, but when it comes to building a desktop, I’m going with a PC.

I just upgraded to the Apple SE phone, and it works for me just fine.

ObserverArt Sep 7, 2016 • 2:51:25pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

To be honest, rabid Apple-haters seem much more like a cult to me. I have no particular emotional attachment to gadgets - I just want them to work. I always try to get the best quality tools for whatever job I’m doing, and I’ve found through many years of experience with computer hardware that Apple’s gear is almost always better engineered and more long-lasting than any equivalents. Yes, it’s also more expensive, usually, but the best tools always are.

That’s what’s important to me. If Apple started failing to meet those standards, I’d move on to something better, if it existed. Fuck this “cult” bullshit. I’m no “cultist.”

I don’t hate Apple. But boy did I ever learn about their supporters when I broke into graphic arts as a Windows user back in ‘91.

I knew Apple was the major player in graphic arts, but the agency I worked for didn’t give me that option as one of our main clients was a DOS/Windows guy and he talked the owner into going with Windows. Of course neither the client or my boss would acknowledge I’d be swimming upstream going with Windows as the artist in the agency.

But I learned and it really forced me to understand computers and Windows systems so I could get stuff done. I learned to work around the problems which for the most part came down to type reflow issues when my files would go from Windows to Mac for film output. Once I got around that…no problem.

My best story is sitting in a Kinko’s cranking out big prints (we didn’t have a big Fiery based color printer in house at the race team and parts company I worked for). A bunch of guys were using the Macs and they were for some reason just getting real mouthy about Windows systems. I tried to ignore them, but it got so stupid when one of them said something like “you can’t do graphics in a Windows system.

That did it.

In a cool as a manner as I could muster I said “Then what am I doing over here on the Windows platform printing these big color prints of cars with sponsor proposal logos on them.

The biggest mouthed guy called me a lair and said it could not be done. I had already put out some prints and showed him and explained I did a parts catalog in Windows too, etc.

The idiot still called me a lair and insisted I wasn’t using Windows.

It’s hard not to remember stupid crap like that. And it taught me I would hear that stuff all the damn time. And I heard a lot of it.

Then I learned the company that did my prepress work ran all of their Macs into a Windows server to burn negatives and color separations for printing. So, I knew it was just a matter of time before both systems would be equal.

By the time Adobe came up with PDF written from EPS files both systems were on equal footing and PDF stabilized the whole output stream. Made print files for process color catalogs of many pages a whole hell of a lot smaller and easy to get to the printer too.

I always say it is like people arguing over what brand of pencils or tubes of watercolor you use. All that matters is the freaking end product. Well to me anyway.

And I have used Macs. I am faster with Windows though because of my history. And I’ve never really had a bad Windows computer because I learned how to get them configured for actual graphics work.

Getting ready to get a new Windows 10 machine going with all the Adobe CC programs by Christmas.

electrotek Sep 7, 2016 • 2:51:40pm

And I’m pretty sure when it comes to gaming on the computer, Mac’s still can’t usurp PC’s after all these years.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 7, 2016 • 2:51:53pm

re: #58 Thanos

This is all because Iran is going after the Saudis for last year’s Haj stampedes.

Great. A religious pissing match.

We atheists may not have totally clean hands, but at least we don’t go to war with each other over who god isn’t.

Great White Snark Sep 7, 2016 • 2:54:15pm

@CBSLA Oh man what I would pay to be up there with my camera!

— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) September 7, 2016

EPR-radar Sep 7, 2016 • 2:54:21pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I don’t think it’s really accurate any more to say Mac OS is basically Linux. It definitely began as an offshoot of the BSD kernel, with NextStep running on top, but it’s gone far beyond those roots at this point.

Sometimes the unix base for Mac OS is a useful bit of lore to keep in mind. I recently needed to delete some hidden files from a mp4 music collection, and it was simpler to just open a terminal window to see the files and delete them than it would have been to get the finder to show the hidden files.

Barefoot Grin Sep 7, 2016 • 2:54:35pm

re: #20 makeitstop

OT: Natalie Merchant does without a doubt the worst cover version of Bowie’s ‘Space Oddity’ I’ve ever heard.

She drains it of every bit of suspense and drama, sings it like she’s reading a grocery list.

There are a few 10K Maniacs songs I like and one or two by Natalie solo, but for the most part I feel she does this to most songs.

Shiplord Kirel Sep 7, 2016 • 2:55:05pm

Historically, any number of chronic skin conditions have been referred to as “leprosy.” Today, the term refers specifically to Hansen’s disease, an infection by the bacilli Mycobacterium leprae and Mycobacterium lepromatosis. There are a variety of fairly straightforward and effective treatments:

GlutenFreeJesus Sep 7, 2016 • 2:56:19pm

He called you a Point of Sale. Makes no sense!

Thanos Sep 7, 2016 • 2:57:20pm

re: #59 Brian J.

And a plurality of new US cases are diagnosed in white people.

Yes, people who travel who have compromised immune systems.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 7, 2016 • 2:57:46pm

re: #68 GlutenFreeJesus

He called you a Point of Sale. Makes no sense!

I always make the opposite joke!

I like to switch around Royal Navy and Registered Nurse, too….

ObserverArt Sep 7, 2016 • 2:58:49pm

re: #40 Bubblehead II

The only reason I didn’t like Apple was that when I first started building my own PCs was that all their peripherals were proprietary. You could not get an after market device from anybody else. Maybe this has changed maybe not. I just didn’t like being tied to one manufacture for my equipment.

And on the flip side, that is where some Windows systems failed.

It really depended on having quality devices that were more or less tested and recommended by Intel. If you got a super cheap system with a funky board and chipset with nasty cards in it you’d have nothing but troubles many times.

I learned to go with nothing but Intel chips on an Intel mother board and I would read about any ‘card’ I’d install being tested on Intel stuff. That way you’d be more or less getting the same level of “company approved” stuff in your Windows system.

EPR-radar Sep 7, 2016 • 2:59:17pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

I’d just like the Mac and PC versions of MS Office to play nice with each other, so that I don’t have to check for computer-provided glitches in Office documents that are sent from Mac to PC (or vice versa).

Great White Snark Sep 7, 2016 • 3:01:03pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

Major editing platforms are often PC’s. Just as pricey as anything Apple makes because Xenon chips and many graphics cards and whatever software their people like. Final Cut, Premiere. I have been to a couple post facilities. the Apple machines were out front and in pockets. The edit bays were all PC’s.

Charles Johnson Sep 7, 2016 • 3:01:17pm

re: #65 EPR-radar

Sometimes the unix base for Mac OS is a useful bit of lore to keep in mind. I recently needed to delete some hidden files from a mp4 music collection, and it was simpler to just open a terminal window to see the files and delete them than it would have been to get the finder to show the hidden files.

Absolutely - the Mac OS Terminal is a really great tool, if you know your way around a Unix shell. For example, I needed to rename a directory full of image files, and give them all random 16-character names recently. This one line shell script does it easily in the Mac OS Terminal:

for i in *.jpg; do mv $i $(php -r "echo substr(md5(uniqid(mt_rand(), true)), 0, 16);").jpg; done

It calls PHP to use its uniqid(), md5(), and mt_rand() functions because I didn’t want to bother trying to find out how to do those things in Linux, but you could probably write the same thing with Linux commands.

Jay C Sep 7, 2016 • 3:02:47pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

The thing about “leprosy”, though, is that the term still conjures up (AFAICT), a near atavistic horror in a lot of folks, which is probably not going to be assuaged by assurances from modern medicine that it is both minimally contagious and treatable: however accurate those assessments are. Opinions which are of course, not helped by asinine scare-talk like what Jim (“Where Derp Finally Made A Comeback”) Hoft specializes in.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 7, 2016 • 3:04:17pm

Leprosy treatment with Thalidomide, via Wiki.

wrenchwench Sep 7, 2016 • 3:04:18pm

re: #68 GlutenFreeJesus

He called you a Point of Sale. Makes no sense!

I just saw an ad for point of sale devices, and I read the abbreviation as ‘piece of shit’. Ha!

Great White Snark Sep 7, 2016 • 3:07:12pm

re: #64 Great White Snark

Well that just fell flat without the pic. I’d love to get up there with my camera on a nice day like today. Long as I can clip in anyway.

Jack Burton Sep 7, 2016 • 3:07:46pm

re: #75 Jay C

The thing about “leprosy”, though, is that the term still conjures up (AFAICT), a near atavistic horror in a lot of folks, which is probably not going to be assuaged by assurances from modern medicine that it is both minimally contagious and treatable: however accurate those assessments are. Opinions which are of course, not helped by asinine scare-talk like what Jim (“Where Derp Finally Made A Comeback”) Hoft specializes in.

Because all they know about Leprosy is what they read in that *one* book they all tend to have in common.

TedStriker Sep 7, 2016 • 3:07:53pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

To be honest, rabid Apple-haters seem much more like a cult to me. I have no particular emotional attachment to gadgets - I just want them to work. I always try to get the best quality tools for whatever job I’m doing, and I’ve found through many years of experience with computer hardware that Apple’s gear is almost always better engineered and more long-lasting than any equivalents. Yes, it’s also more expensive, usually, but the best tools always are.

That’s what’s important to me. If Apple started failing to meet those standards, I’d move on to something better, if it existed. Fuck this “cult” bullshit. I’m no “cultist.”

Charles, you know as well as we do that, when it comes to certain things, you get a certain subset that are rabid fanboys/fangirls and that Apple has the perception of have a lot more of them than most companies (the “Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field” wasn’t a thing in the tech press and tech forums for years for nothing).

I don’t think anyone was insinuating that you’re a hardcore Apple fanboy, but if they were, your response puts that one to rest. Use what works for you and screw everyone else.

Jebediah, RBG Sep 7, 2016 • 3:08:00pm

re: #78 Great White Snark

that’s a big ol’ nope

wrenchwench Sep 7, 2016 • 3:08:02pm

And while we’re discussing which is the better system: Shimano, SRAM, Campy, or the new kid, FSA?

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 7, 2016 • 3:09:18pm

re: #76 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Leprosy treatment with Thalidomide, via Wiki.

My late brother-in-law was treated with Thalidomide for Multiple Myeloma, where it has been shown to have at least some efficacy. And of course there’s not really ANY cancer drug that you want to be taking if you’re pregnant.

Jebediah, RBG Sep 7, 2016 • 3:10:12pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

All I know for sure is that the now pretty old Shimano cup-and-cone-bearing wheels on my road bike always rolled faster than anybody else’s fancy sealed-bearing wheels.
Also, get off my lawn.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 7, 2016 • 3:10:15pm

re: #78 Great White Snark

Well that just fell flat without the pic. I’d love to get up there with my camera on a nice day like today. Long as I can clip in anyway.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!! Even the picture gives me the willies.

Great White Snark Sep 7, 2016 • 3:10:16pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

I held out quite a while with my editing PC. Been running Win10 without upgrading RAM or anything else. Runs at least as well as on 7. Pro IT guys were insisting Win10 would slow it due to RAM use. Nope. Asus board, intel I7 etc etc. Water cooling was a must from the getgo with rendering though. Win 7 or 10.

EPR-radar Sep 7, 2016 • 3:10:18pm

re: #78 Great White Snark

I don’t usually get vertigo from a picture, but that one is a big NOPE from me.

Great White Snark Sep 7, 2016 • 3:11:33pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

No, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!! Even the picture gives me the willies.

Oops Very Sorry maybe I should have tagged that private.

wrenchwench Sep 7, 2016 • 3:12:29pm

re: #84 Jebediah, RBG

All I know for sure is that the now pretty old Shimano cup-and-cone-bearing wheels on my road bike always rolled faster than the anybody else’s fancy sealed-bearing wheels.
Also, get off my lawn.

Sealed bearings: grease and seal drag, disposable. Cup and cone bearings: serviceable!

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 7, 2016 • 3:13:41pm

re: #84 Jebediah, RBG

All I know for sure is that the now pretty old Shimano cup-and-cone-bearing wheels on my road bike always rolled faster than the anybody else’s fancy sealed-bearing wheels.
Also, get off my lawn.

I’d stack the White hubs on Dreadnought up against anything.

(alpuz) Sep 7, 2016 • 3:14:47pm

re: #89 wrenchwench

It’s All Ball Bearings | Fletch

EPR-radar Sep 7, 2016 • 3:15:28pm

re: #80 TedStriker

On the subject of fanboys, it is unfortunate that Final Fantasy games (which I almost always end up liking) have some really stupid and unpleasant online fans and haters. Both camps have been foaming at the mouth for years because FF XV has spent 10 years in development hell, and the release date for that just slipped by two months, sending these nuts into high earth orbit.

They aren’t as bad as wingnuts only because the stakes are so low.

Jebediah, RBG Sep 7, 2016 • 3:16:03pm

re: #89 wrenchwench
Yup!
What surprised me, the first time I did it, was that servicing them really wasn’t that hard at all. A few tries to get them cranked down just right, and good to go.
I had been sort of led to believe it would be a really tough job. And I LOVE the non-disposable part - I might wear out rims, but I will keep those hubs for decades to come.

Bubblehead II Sep 7, 2016 • 3:17:11pm

re: #71 ObserverArt

And on the flip side, that is where some Windows systems failed.

It really depended on having quality devices that were more or less tested and recommended by Intel. If you got a super cheap system with a funky board and chipset with nasty cards in it you’d have nothing but troubles many times.

I learned to go with nothing but Intel chips on an Intel mother board and I would read about any ‘card’ I’d install being tested on Intel stuff. That way you’d be more or less getting the same level of “company approved” stuff in your Windows system.

But you had/have a choice. If the vendor could/can pass Intel’s (and now AMD) specs you have a wide variety of choices/prices to choose from. Apple, not so much.

As far as phones go, I am happy with my Asus ZenFone 2E. It does what I want it to do without the Apple price.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 7, 2016 • 3:17:52pm

re: #88 Great White Snark

Oops Very Sorry maybe I should have tagged that private.

Eh, no biggie. It’s hard to know what will be a problem for other people if it isn’t a problem for you.

Besides, that’s what scrolling is for. You look for a few seconds, suddenly go “GAAAAH!!!!”, and move on quickly!!!

wrenchwench Sep 7, 2016 • 3:18:37pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d stack the White hubs on Dreadnought up against anything.

Those are worth stepping off the lawn for.

scottslemmons Sep 7, 2016 • 3:19:39pm

re: #78 Great White Snark

Well that just fell flat without the pic. I’d love to get up there with my camera on a nice day like today. Long as I can clip in anyway.

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wrenchwench Sep 7, 2016 • 3:20:38pm

re: #97 scottslemmons

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Meme machine set on stun.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 7, 2016 • 3:21:36pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

Those are worth stepping off the lawn for.

The wheels built around them are amazing. They’re only 28F/32R, but after 5000 miles they haven’t needed truing with my fat ass atop them, and I’m a pothole magnet!

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TedStriker Sep 7, 2016 • 3:22:22pm

re: #98 wrenchwench

Meme machine set on stun.

Stun? Looks like it’s set on “megadeath”…

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Tigger2 Sep 7, 2016 • 3:23:55pm

re: #78 Great White Snark

Well that just fell flat without the pic. I’d love to get up there with my camera on a nice day like today. Long as I can clip in anyway.

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No, No and FUCK NO would I be up there.

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wrenchwench Sep 7, 2016 • 3:24:58pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

The wheels built around them are amazing. They’re only 28F/32R, but after 5000 miles they haven’t needed truing with my fat ass atop them, and I’m a pothole magnet!

32 spokes are the equivalent of 48 back in the 70s, strengthwise. With less air drag. But I hate the deep-section rims that require long, costlier valve on the tubes (soon to be irrelevant…)

/stepping back on the lawn

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darthstar Sep 7, 2016 • 3:25:22pm

re: #78 Great White Snark

Well that just fell flat without the pic. I’d love to get up there with my camera on a nice day like today. Long as I can clip in anyway.

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One of my patrol buddies is a radio antenna repairman in the off season. I don’t have any interest in climbing shit like that.

As they said on the “best of” Car Talk Saturday, “If at first you don’t succeed, maybe skydiving isn’t for you.”

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scottslemmons Sep 7, 2016 • 3:25:52pm

re: #100 TedStriker

Stun? Looks like it’s set on “megadeath”…

/

Now I wonder if I could’ve fit more Nopes in there… :)

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darthstar Sep 7, 2016 • 3:27:30pm

OMG They’re shooting at us!

Violent hailstorm Gulf of Naples Italy, Sept 6, 2015

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makeitstop Sep 7, 2016 • 3:28:17pm

re: #64 Great White Snark

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NOPE.

I’m going to LA in a couple of weeks. My wife wants me to do that glass slide they put on the side of a building out there.

I will exhaust the world’s supply of nope resisting doing so.

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scottslemmons Sep 7, 2016 • 3:28:53pm

re: #103 darthstar

One of my patrol buddies is a radio antenna repairman in the off season. I don’t have any interest in climbing shit like that.

You can find absolutely terrifying videos on YouTube of people climbing huge radio towers. I’m not going to link them here because (a) I’m not entirely sure how to hide stuff and (b) I don’t even want to look them up to find the links.

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makeitstop Sep 7, 2016 • 3:31:42pm

re: #66 Barefoot Grin

There are a few 10K Maniacs songs I like and one or two by Natalie solo, but for the most part I feel she does this to most songs.

She always sounds like she’s lying down when she’s singing for some reason.

I’ve got a Natalie story from the days I spent in Woodstock recording an album. I was walking down the main drag smoking a cigarette, and she came out of a store (with Michael Stipe) and yelled at me for smoking.

Second time a female singer yelled at me for smoking. The first one was Annie Haslam from Renaissance, in the Spectrum in Philly.

I must have a ‘yell at me for smoking’ face.

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Jebediah, RBG Sep 7, 2016 • 3:32:09pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

Yeah, tubeless is another thing I am not sold on. Maybe it is just old-fart-ism, but carrying spare tubes, and patching holes in them with old-school patches and vulcanizing goo I understand. And it works fine. And when I get a flat on La Brea on my way to work, I know more or less how long it will be before I am back underway again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 7, 2016 • 3:32:51pm

re: #42 makeitstop

The non-lunatic interpretation: Two possible cases of leprosy reported at Riverside County elementary school

Funny how the word ‘possible’ disappears and it becomes an ‘outbreak’ in SMOTI-land.

Other wingnut blogs have got the story too, and they all seem to be blaming Obama for it. Like he ran over to the school and shot the kids up with the virus himself. Gah.

That’s what happens when ya try to make a pet out of a rescued armadillo…

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 7, 2016 • 3:33:00pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

32 spokes are the equivalent of 48 back in the 70s, strengthwise. With less air drag. But I hate the deep-section rims that require long, costlier valve on the tubes (soon to be irrelevant…)

/stepping back on the lawn

Double-butted Sapim spokes. The rims are Velocity Fusions. Moderately deep section, but nothing like the Mavic CXP30s I had on my Ritchey. Those things, you could actually feel the extra effort needed to spin up the extra mass when accelerating.

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wrenchwench Sep 7, 2016 • 3:33:24pm

re: #109 Jebediah, RBG

Yeah, tubeless is another thing I am not sold on. Maybe it is just old-fart-ism, but carrying spare tubes, and patching holes in them with old-school patches and vulcanizing goo I understand. And it works fine. And when I get a flat on La Brea on my way to work, I know more or less how long it will be before I am back underway again.

And if you get a flat with tubeless tires, the cure is to throw in a tube!

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Shiplord Kirel Sep 7, 2016 • 3:33:28pm

re: #97 scottslemmons

I’ll second that. My terror of heights has been something of a running joke for 50 years, since I have been a pilot for that long. Paradoxically, I never felt the fear of heights while I was in an aircraft. On a balcony, a tall building, or a high cliff, however, I turn to jelly. An aviation psychologist told me that it is actually fairly common: When you are in an aircraft, it essentially becomes the ground to you; but on a tall structure, or anything else that is attached TO the ground, the distance to the ground registers fully to your subconscious mind and the primordial fear of falling is fully invoked.

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Romantic Heretic Sep 7, 2016 • 3:34:11pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I don’t think it’s really accurate any more to say Mac OS is basically Linux. It definitely began as an offshoot of the BSD kernel, with NextStep running on top, but it’s gone far beyond those roots at this point.

I put off upgrading to OSX until I no longer had a choice. My distrust of UNIX is so high it almost overcame my trust in Apple.

These days I never have to see a command prompt, and if I do I’ll be shutting off the power to my Mac.

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Jebediah, RBG Sep 7, 2016 • 3:35:18pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

And if you get a flat with tubeless tires, the cure is to throw in a tube!

Which I do find pretty funny.

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wrenchwench Sep 7, 2016 • 3:35:26pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Double-butted Sapim spokes. The rims are Velocity Fusions. Moderately deep section, but nothing like the Mavic CXP30s I had on my Ritchey. Those things, you could actually feel the extra effort needed to spin up the extra mass when accelerating.

I find butted spokes are more durable, because they flex in the middle, instead of at the ends where they fatigue and break.

I’m a Ritchey fan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 7, 2016 • 3:38:11pm

WOOT!
It took three months or so, but I just got the notification that I finally moved up to the top of the hold list at my library for Joe Hill’s The Fireman.

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Great White Snark Sep 7, 2016 • 3:38:31pm

Has Apple had to resort to re: #106 makeitstop

NOPE.

I’m going to LA in a couple of weeks. My wife wants me to do that glass slide they put on the side of a building out there.

I will exhaust the world’s supply of nope resisting doing so.

I have a spare box of unused NOPES. Feel free to stop by and take some. My used ones have to do with gambling and certain exotic mammals as food. And snakes, can’t abide snakes.

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ObserverArt Sep 7, 2016 • 3:41:41pm

re: #108 makeitstop

She always sounds like she’s lying down when she’s singing for some reason.

I’ve got a Natalie story from the days I spent in Woodstock recording an album. I was walking down the main drag smoking a cigarette, and she came out of a store (with Michael Stipe) and yelled at me for smoking.

Second time a female singer yelled at me for smoking. The first one was Annie Haslam from Renaissance, in the Spectrum in Philly.

I must have a ‘yell at me for smoking’ face.

There is a DJ here in Columbus at our “alternative” FM station CD102 that used to just hate on her something fierce.

He did an interview with her once and I guess that got the hate going. He said it was a tough interview with a self-serving arrogant stuck up ass…or something to that effect.

The station had a 15 second station ID with her as a voice saying “Hi, this is Natalie Merchant and CD 101.1 Columbus is my station when I am in the area” (it changed FM bands to 102 after that). He would mock her voice every time he had to announce a Maniacs or one of her own tunes coming up. That went on for years.

And then he did an interview with James Mercer of The Shins and he forgot all about Merchant. Mercer became his most hated musician after that. I guess Mercer was drunk and was just a flaming asshole through the whole interview.

The DJ always said “why do these artists have to be such asses when all we are doing is playing their music and trying to help promote them.”

Ah…artist egos. A thing of not-so-beauty sometimes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 7, 2016 • 3:44:20pm

re: #59 Brian J.

And a plurality of new US cases are diagnosed in white people.

because those armadillos are just soooo cute!

/////////

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Great White Snark Sep 7, 2016 • 3:44:41pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel

I kinda got over it installing base antennas for CB radios on houses. I’d be on a ladder on a rooftop. 1970’s. Years later maybe 1995 I saw a yowling kitten stuck on a scaffolding, about 3 floors up. I figured no sweat. I stepped onto that last plank and the whole thing moved a few inches out away from the wall. I lost that magic confidence in my circumstance. Not ashamed to admit fear put me on my knees. Looking at this stupid kitten who was hungry but fearless.

You and your expert are right, as long as we trust our surroundings we can cope. Break that confidence and the shakes hit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 7, 2016 • 3:53:24pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

And while we’re discussing which is the better system: Shimano, SRAM, Campy, or the new kid, FSA?

I like FSA.
Oh, wait…Imma thinking you don’t mean Farm Service Agency.

…never mind…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 7, 2016 • 3:55:22pm

re: #88 Great White Snark

Oops Very Sorry maybe I should have tagged that private.

hey, they were all wearing climbing harnesses so they were in little danger.

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Thanos Sep 7, 2016 • 5:34:55pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

Great. A religious pissing match.

We atheists may not have totally clean hands, but at least we don’t go to war with each other over who god isn’t.

Haha, Tell that to PZ and Thunderfoot…

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Nojay UK Sep 9, 2016 • 3:34:32pm

re: #73 Great White Snark

Final Cut, Premiere. I have been to a couple post facilities. the Apple machines were out front and in pockets. The edit bays were all PC’s.

Final Cut Pro was an Apple-only product, insanely popular with professional video and film people once upon a time with lots of third-party plug-ins and utilities designed for production workflow and revenue generation. It was getting long in the tooth though and Apple prevaricated about releasing a 64-bit version for years. Eventually they came out with the new version, Final Cut Pro X which didn’t work with the existing workflow tools and didn’t do a tenth of what the original (no support for SANs carrying raw video, for example) did but it had a “publish to Facebook” button.

There were video and film schools that had dropped half a million bucks on Apple kit and licences just to teach Final Cut Pro to students in the classroom because it was the industry standard, and they got cut off at the knees with no warning (this was in the good old days of the secretive Jobs and his little “surprises”).

There’s a reason the edit bays are all PCs running Windows these days.

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